20 Episode results for "DJ LeMay"

Redraft Values, Sleepers & Busts - 1B

Stealing Signs

10:14 min | 1 year ago

Redraft Values, Sleepers & Busts - 1B

"Way that this is feeling signs. I am Jack Swagger and this is your fantasy. Nugget are getting set for the fantasy baseball season. I got Mikey here with me and we have decided to go ahead and break down the first base position for the twenty twenty season for fantasy baseball. So we're going to give We're not going to get into too much detail. We're going to give our opinion on who the top picks gotta be which most people probably the same opinion But also evalu- pick sleeper pick and then of course are busts for first base south. Mikey how you doing today buddy. I'm good yourself. I'm doing good doing good. I'm excited about About this project so all right. Let's get right into it then Mikey you're a projection for the top fantasy. First Baseman. For Twenty Twenty is. It's a really big surprise but I chose cody bellinger. It's a tough one to to not choose right at this point. Bellinger is after last season. There's really no reason to to not choose him. And now he has mu bets leading off good point yup was already probably the strongest hitting lineup. In baseball. You go from John. Peterson bets. Pretty good upgrade to shy very so bellinger. Obviously it easy pick. I assumed it was coming so I did reach a little bit Anything other than bellinger's reach. I have been on Freddie Freeman for a couple of years now. He had a huge year last year. And I don't think he's done. I think Freddy Freeman improves. This year. bellinger has to have some sort of coming back to Earth. So I think there's a chance that that Freddy Freeman could end up the top first base. But at least I think it's GonNa be closer than most people do anyway so again not a lot of surprise there but there's our opinion on who's going to be number one but if you're not picking a first baseman early and you decide to wait a little bit fill some of those other needs i. Mikey who do you think is a good value? Pick little bit later in the draft. I went back and forth with this one and I and I'm not exactly sure how much of a value but I'm pretty sure that Danny Santana is going to be a really good value. Big At first base okay. Yeah that's a guy jumped up quite a bit. Last year qualifies it all kinds of different positions. Also I believe that people are GonNa just let him go let him go and if he does anything close to what he does last year and get more at bats than it could be pretty good. Yeah no I agree. He's currently the the on average. The Seventeenth First Baseman Geoghegan on average is draft. Position is one forty eight. And you're right. He was up there with the leaders last year and it was his first time doing so. They're obviously again guys like that. There's the possibility of regression ready could fall back. Oh yeah but not a bad. Pick it all for me value. Pick probably not as big of a reach as yours. But I'm going to go with Jose Abreu Jose. Abreu is still the eighth first baseman coming off. The board seventy first overall and in my opinion with the changes they made to that lineup. The fact he was the RBI leader last year. You know according to the list. I'm looking at on average Matt Olsen. Dj Lemay and Paul. Goldschmidt are all going ahead of him and I just. I think he's better than all three of them so I think you can honestly I think you can get yourself a top five first baseman A little bit later in the not too late like I said he's seventy first off the board so you can wait a little bit and still get a guy that I expect any way to be in the top numbers. I feel a braves. Good allowed people think a braves older than he is. I just feel that there's so many players on that team. He will not get as many at bats. This year's he did last year they have to get McCann at bats they have to keep getting encarnacion at bats. When Robert comes up they're going to. They have a really good strong team. Which means brave will still be good. He'll probably get more efficiency than last year. But it just don't feel the panel. I their fair enough. I could see that all right moving on and In this world starts get a little bit more fun Ray. Little deeper in the in the picks what who do you have for For your sleeper for I I sleep or is obviously not as much as sleepers. I thought it was. I thought he would be lower on the list. But my sleeper this year is Matt Olsen from the okay. I believe his home run per bat. Once he got healthy last year would have been fifty homerun paid up so that's my sleepers meddlesome. That feel. He could be top five fair enough and that's kind of what it seems like most people think too so okay. I went a little bit deeper with my sleeper this year and again. I know it won't be a huge surprise to Mikey but this guy is coming off the board two hundred and eighth overall the twenty fifth first baseman being chosen and I just strides. He took last year and still didn't play full-time Arizona. I believe has made some moves this year to give Christian Walker a little more time. I know there's a guy behind him that can hit the shit out of the ball also but but I think Christian Walker is I. I definitely think he's better than the twenty fifth first Baseman and fantasy baseball and I do feel that he could end up a starter in a twelve fourteen team league this year. So I think it's going to continue to tip to progress for For Christian Walker up. Put it to you like this. If you have Sterling Martin and Kella Marta leading off for your first two guys. That's kind of like back in the days when the Indians had lost in the Alamar. Now you're gonNA be crazy so if Christian walker hits third any plays every day he could be a top five first baseman. Arizona's a good hitting park they play Colorado some of the Times. I mean I could see it. I just once again worry about playing time. But that's what we're looking for in sleepers. You're looking for somebody like that. Yeah and again. He didn't do anything last year to not get himself more playing time right so chances are that that looks like Jake. Liam is lessened the future plans. Like I said we know that kids coming up behind him but everything he did said get me more time in fact Christian Walker had one of the higher hard hit ball rates in base by the forty six forty seven percent hard hit balls so like I said I think that guy still has some more climbing to do all right all right and then So finally bust who is Who's the guy that's that's up a top of the list that you just don't believe in can't see it? It's kind of funny because it's the second time in my lifetime. I've thought this guy was a bust. He's a better bust now than he was back. Then but I I believe Josh Bell is a bust. I believe I can have numbers showed that and I believe now that he has a weaker lineup. Losing starling Martavis. He's not going to see the pitches. They're going to be so bad. I don't feel like he'll be involved. I just feel I feel. It's GONNA be bad year for Josh Belcher. That's my pick. Is Josh Bell Interesting? He had a pretty good year last year. I rate first half most of it in the first half rate He has moved into that conversation though right tenth off the board now on average for first baseman starting first baseman. For SOMEBODY WHO MOST LEAGUE. I was with you the first around. I did not believe in Josh Bell. The first time around. I was impressed. Obviously with the the first half of last year I'm interested. I'm not committing one way or the. I'm on the fence with Josh Bell. I'm going to be a wimp about it. I think one thing that would make Josh Bell Better. If he stopped switch hitting all right so my sleep at a tough one. You're my bust. I'm sorry thank you. It's funny. You said that because this is the second time I thought this guy was done and maybe I'm the only one this time around because according to these numbers he's being drafted very high when he left. Colorado I was sure that that was the end of. Dj Lemay Hugh and then the guy went New York and got a little better homes so a guy that in Colorado was sometimes used as a middle infielder. All of a sudden was being used as a first baseman outside of Colorado. I just don't see it man. I know it's a great lineup. It's a good park. I just can't see him continuing it on. Lemay has to drop. He can't be the sixth best first baseman. The other guy that seems to get a lot of clout that I don't have a lot of faith in also trae Mancini who moved up last year. And he's in that age that you know that twenty seven twenty eight so maybe this is him maybe is next good first baseman. But but he's another guy that don't have as much faith in what about what. What's your thoughts on Lemay? Hugh I mean. It's a it's an interesting guy right. I think Lemay Hugh if he stays at the leadoff spot for the Yankees. I don't see it stopping. I just don't I didn't think it was going to be as good as it was last year. Just watching him. It's not like he's hitting home runs. He's hitting home run but he just gets on base and they knock them around and it was supposed to be stanton and everybody else knocked around and last year it was her shell on Didi Gregorius. And all those guys so luke. Voight and should be healthy this year. I think he's GonNa have a lot better years speaking of first baseman. So this is going to help I I just. I don't see the drop out six first baseman but I don't see dropped where he wouldn't be considered a starter as a deep to get to the top five at first base. You have to be pretty good and you have to have a good year. Well they haven't guys you got our value picks you got our sleepers and And you've got our bus for first base so hopefully that helps you guys out a little bit. We'll be doing this a little bit more in preparation for the fantasy season for all y'all draft so make sure to check back in and we'll be jumping position by position.

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QUICK HIT: DJ LeMahieu to the Yankees

Jay Bird Watching

06:46 min | 4 months ago

QUICK HIT: DJ LeMahieu to the Yankees

"Jays fans what is up. It is brendan panic. Car here from jaber. Watching part of the stadium seen network of podcasts. Thank you and shadow to stadium. Seen doing this emergency pod because a major move has been made up by the blue jays but by division rival new york yankees. They have signed and brought back. Dj lemay who is one of the big four free agents. That bluejays fans are really hoping this team will get at least one of them lemay. Who was on their list and just as a reminder trevor. Bauer george springer. Jt real mutoko make up the other three of the big four free agents. But yeah. that's not gonna happen anymore. Lemay hugh has with the yankees a six year ninety million dollar deal. I remember on past episodes of jaybird. Watching with the whole crew. With adam and craig that we discussed the mayhew and i think we're all in agreement. He was option number. Four of those big four. We all had the other. Three guys ahead of dj. And that's because of his age also because he wants to be paid like a power hitter. We even said this last episode. He's not a power hitter. He's benefiting from yankee stadium. You take him out of yankee stadium and his home runs. Drop by i believe is a fifty or sixty percent. It's significant and ended up being a six year deal ninety million dollars the avion that fifteen if my math is correct from what. I've been reading over twitter lopez reasonable. That's a reasonable deal for dj. But he was not going to come to. Toronto on fifteen per year is reported by pat dot. So i believe his name is Some guy in new york who has sources and then later confirmed by john hayman but the blue jays were in on the mayhew to the very end. I know fans are getting sick of hearing net. But they did offer. Dj a good contract. And that's what. I really wanna talk about before wrapping things up on his quick episode. Lemay hugh was offered. Apparently for years seventy million dollars from the blue jays snot quite the price. They paid four hundred last year but really really close. the on. that would've worked out to nineteen point five million dollars per year and look anything under five years and twenty million per season. I think bluejays fans would have been happy with that It's still in my mind overpay. But that's what you would have had to do to get dj. Lure him away from the new york yankees and look. This is also what we talked about the last episode of draper watching when we chatted about. Dj lemay hugh is. He said at the beginning of the week and his agent that they wanted to go in re engage teams. That were interested and think this just confirms what we said. On wednesday night show it was purely leverage that will make you and his agent. We're looking for to make the yankees be like okay. We will up our offer. Not sure if they up the dollar figure but they definitely up the years to make it a little more palatable for them and me who still gets his pay day so he's off the board. I'm not upset. The blue jays did make a legitimate offer. I think nineteen point five million dollars per year for dj mayhew over the next four years for thirty two year old. Who's power may go down at. The rogers centre when park factors are in involved is very fair. Deal just wasn't enough to entice him. And i don't think anybody is going to fault. The blue jays for not trying a little harder to get. Dj look it just puts more pressure on them to finally whether it's upping their offer doing whatever. It is put pressure on george springer to sign and look pressure on this front office to. They said at the beginning of the year this team would get better. Shapiro's quoted to players or super high impact players. Whatever it is or for very good players. There's been nothing robbie ray i know they brought. Aj cole back on the minor league deal and other blue jays news today was that they agreed and settled with kiosk hernandez and ross stripling avoiding arbitration. Kiosk i believe got four point three something million and ross stripling three million springer. Still out there guys. It's possible. I really hope that this means they will go to george springer hand up their offer put pressure on them especially because it looks like the new york. Mets are getting close to signing brad. Hand in hand. Probably i would imagine gets around ten million per year not just pushes the mets closer and closer to that luxury threshold. That steve cohen has said he does not want to go over. If that's the case springs market is shrinking unless another team comes into the mix which there hasn't been one reported yet if the blue jays come up and offer springer closer to what he wants and in my mind is the blue jays went to george springer right now and said six years one hundred fifty million twenty five million per season. That's ten more million than the just paid. Dj lemay hugh and outfield is probably our second biggest behind number two starter. How on earth if your spare can you turn that down of course ads. Unless he thinks he can get something better in this market with how slow it has taken to develop. I would have a tough time. Turn that down. If i was george springer. So we'll see we'll keep tabs over the weekend and into next week when we record on wednesday with adam and craig and myself. Adam is in the driver's seat he is the host. he'll be talking to craig and i And yeah we'll see what happens. There's going to be some more moving pieces as the weekend. Goes along our deadlines. Today there's still a lot of unsettled cases including kris bryant. Maybe once we know what the dollar figures for kris bryant he finally gets dealt. I've a feeling teams are waiting to see what dollar figure comes in at before making any sort of trade for bryant so that they can appropriately fit him into their contracts and into their payroll so yeah. Lots of moving pieces wanted to do this. Quick hit episode or emergency podcasts. Wherever you want to talk about because this one is the first of the big four to file and all off season the blue jays have been connected to each of the big four thus jaber washing cricket episode with brennan panel car catches wednesday night at seven pm for our next live show until then.

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DJ LeMahieu is BACK - Emergency Episode

The Bronx Pinstripes Show - Yankees MLB Podcast

30:06 min | 4 months ago

DJ LeMahieu is BACK - Emergency Episode

"In two thousand and three nike signed thirteen-year-old freddie due to a seven figure contracts. But freddie didn't live up to the height he is turned down every single documentary project looking closely at the details of his career. Until now we're going to look at everything you did. Because of the high. And they all episodes of american prodigy. Ready ado are now available wherever you get your podcast from blue wire. Hey guys wanna tell you about a project that i'm working on here at blue called blue wire hustle. It's a brand new program where you can host your very own podcast here at blue wire. Hustle was created to give everyone the opportunity to take your podcast to next level. Or if you just want host the podcast and you don't know where to start. Puzzle is the perfect place to do that. As part of the program you'll receive a personal cover art we got. Qna's with blue wires podcasters access to community discord and also an e learning. 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Let's go what's up everyone. Welcome to the bronx pinstripe. Show episode five hundred eight emergency episode because the long awaited news. Finally when you're waiting for it all off season that that that handke's have reportedly agreed to a one point seven million dollars go with international free agent. Ha's montero do not call me. Hey zeus me. Hey zeus the other montero we got him. We got him not that guy not the not. The report is funny because it was tweeted like thirty seconds after the dj mayhew news. And it's like who is this guy. International free agent. Whatever of course. We're here to talk about lemay. Hugh six years ninety mil- interesting you'll be and you know what we're stupid because the timing is makes a of sense dude because the arbitration Payouts are all and everybody knows where the money is and and and now they can you know do the team friendly deal the dj huge assigned with us. Because that's exactly what it is. It's a it's a team friendly deal at thought it was him. He took a hometown discount. Thought it was because for four or five days ago there's reports that he's dismayed and it's like whoa dj's dismayed we can't have that. Gotta get gotta get a deal done. Yeah no look i. I don't care about anything that happened in the past with The delay or anything like that it has done. I don't care how long it is. it's done. I don't care how much it's four it's done. None of these things matter to me the other day at the end of the day. I just want this man signed. He signed on the paper. He signed that being said the contract itself. We say six years this is all about a thousand percent finalized finalized right but passengers whose luck put this podcast up. Then the deal would fall. It's pretty much there. But that being said six years at ninety million dollars is a good deal for digital. May you when it probably is a good deal for the team. It's a good deal for the team. Sorry i met forgetting. Dj lemay you. I it is really what. I what i'm looking at this clearly. It's a it's a It's a way for the yankees. Be flexible right with the luxury tax It looks like a four year deal. It's a four year. Ninety million dollar deal is what it looks like. And then they added the other two volleyball baena years to spread things out and make life easier for the team and so that the yankees could spend more money on players. Dj's going out there saying you know what. I want to win a championship. Let's go onto luxury tax. The we can figure out some more things. Let's let's make this happen makes me what makes me love him even more. Yes so this is i mean. It's obviously to to smooth out the luxury. Tax penalty are hit because it's fifteen million annual value instead of close to twenty million annual value. Which is what maybe a lot of people projected him to get. And in fact. John hayman reported the blue jays offered to lemay. He was four years and seventy eight million which is nineteen and a half million dollars annual value which entering the off season. You and i figured it was going to be around. Twenty million annual value to get limit you but that was obviously a big priority for the yankees was to get him lower because they want to stay under the luxury tax penalty. Or they don't want to blow it out of the water on just dj. Lemay hugh i understand that and i. They are putting more emphasis on saving luxury tax money now than they are potentially dealing with fifteen million dollars in deadweight. Dj lemay when he's thirty eight years old right and but but again if if that was going to be a four year deal and dj's confident that he's not going to be signing another contract after this no matter what after that four years then does it really matter for him probably not not at all if if if that's that's the belief going into this but it does help the yankees because they're able to spread it out and have a much not much smaller but it's significantly smaller hit on the luxury tax. So yeah we for a long time. We always had signed the player for more expensive but shorter years. Because you don't want to be stuck with his his aging aging on the back end but this is the complete opposite. He's going to be thirty three years old on july thirteenth. Oh yeah okay so in four years. That's thirty seven years old. It's it's pretty safe to say that you're not gonna get a fifteen million dollar contract at thirty seven years old. I i'd say that's pretty safe. Yeah those those contracts. Don't happen anymore now. That steroids are not rampant throughout. Who knows for years. A lot of things can happen in four years. Steroids might be legal. Who the hell knows but my point is is that it doesn't matter whether it was a four six year deal as much because at the time of the four-year deal being over. He's he's not getting another big contract anyway. So he's like you know what sprouted offer to those those Two more years to help the luxury tax because those fifteen years that are gonna. I'm sorry those fifteen million dollars that would be there anyway. If our plan would be more than i would get on the open market. Exactly he was not going to get ninety million dollars over the next six years he was not going to get more than ninety million dollars over the next six years by signing a shorter contract for more expensive dollars now and then another contract at the end. 'cause you're right he's not gonna sign a two year thirty million dollar contract when he's going to be thirty seven years old now so essentially you're giving the man the money for what could be for years. I mean if you're looking at the yankees you're probably hoping three to four years of this deal right. I don't when we're looking at this contract later. You know in your five and six. I'm not gonna care at all about your five and six pence no. I don't think it does depend because they the way that there's the australia dozen years three but it wouldn't matter that's my point my point. Is that the last two years of this deal. Don't matter at all when you're when you're judging it because in the end she's a twenty million dollar player and they got a deal. I guess it's i was. I was surprised. I thought it was gonna be. I thought it was going to be four years in eighty million which is twenty million annual value. But but it. It's what we talked about last week or last episode when the cops that his camp. We're using josh donaldson. Who signed a four year. Ninety four. i believe million dollar deal. Which is the com- for an infielder of similar age. Dot com is even compass is significantly higher. A the but again. That's that's about the same right total value. But yeah you're looking at two years. That's that's that's why. I don't believe those two years really matter. I really think that the it seems like those two years were more of a you know. Let's just make this a little bit more flexible for us because we're getting more than fifteen million dollars after that you look at the luxury tax so last year twenty twenty the yankees did exceed the luxury tax. And now i know it's going. It's all adjusted. So i'm not going to get into numbers for twenty twenty. Because of the shortened season. Like the numbers are all out of whack. But if you go on spot track right now spot tracks boat track now you said right now. It seems to be updated with lemay fifteen dollar contract so the yankees total luxury tax payroll estimate as of today if they don't do anymore moves is one hundred and ninety nine point seven six six million dollars which is about ten point two three million dollars under the luxury tax which will be set at two hundred and ten million dollars. I expect them to do more things because they need to if they want to win a world series. They can't just leave the roster as so they have a little bit of room to play with but not a ton of room if they are really trying to be under the luxury tax threshold. And it's not like you go into the season at two hundred nine million because then that leaves you know flexibility for acquiring players. Midyear if you need to feeding to acquire Pitcher midyear. that's gonna put you over the top and you don't want to go over the luxury tax. We can't do that if you're right up against it so if they are to stand or to ten and they wanna sign free agent pitchers. It's gonna be like scrap-heap guys. Well i if it's a major deal also there's a contract is too so i mean it will. It won't be four depending on the What it looks like for that year and what they're dealers but yet they're not going to be doing crazy things. I don't think Via trade could be an avenue they add and subtract money. There's potential there But yup if they're staying on new luxury cheap cheap player somehow a cheap. Yeah someone that's younger. That's that has control years. And you're you're giving up something that there's there's there's an opportunity to do that because there's actually not that much salary to shed via trade unless a blockbuster happens Even if that were to happen. I would assume the yankees were probably absorbed some money. But there's There's there's not a lot these cashman's going to have to be creative. Because if they are staying under the luxury tax if that's the priority if that's one of the things that they're doing trevor. Bauer is that's out it's done that's not happening. Would it surprise me. That that's not the case in the yankees go out and blow it out again. No it would not but then why would you sign lemay. Who for for six years. Fifteen if you're going to blow it out your right now. That's an indicator to me that that they are even more of an indicator. Because i i firmly believe that this was a deal that was not six years when they talked. But then it starts to six years as a as a way to Make it more friendly for the team because if your goal as a team is to stay under the luxury tax. This deal does give you more flexibility after but if your goal as a team it doesn't matter what luxury tax. This deal gives you less flexibility. Because it's longer. How do you get an angry machine on your team. You you make him go stretches out to get under the luxury tax and then you go out and blow it out of the water by signing some. I don't think he's angry this. He's still ninety million dollars. I mean he's take the ten percent for agent fees and all that kind of crap. But you know what i mean. It's this is still ninety million dollars to him no matter which way you cut it. This is a good deal. I'm wearing my dj lemay. Who is my mvp shirt. It's a it's it's it's the data where the man back in pinstripes day. Murderers wrote would has giancarlo. Stanton aaron judge gary sanchez on it. But i think this needs to be revised and the current. Murderers row is dj lemay. Aaron judge Against brett gardner. Because that's where aaron boone bats in third. Yeah that that'd be. That'd be a good we. We can make a difference. Who's that. who's the third moon lineup. Who's the hitter you want up. Third like who's the not batting third. But after lme. Hugh judge is like the two players. You watt up. Who's the third guy you want up. Stanton okay so he's your. He's so stay in his your third most confident I'm not. I'm not usually in murderers row shirts. That when you're looking at those you're looking at the power guy's not gonna put in the dj lemay you type but but digital making murders opposing. Pitching does murderer posing pitching and he does. He's definitely a thirty home. Run guy pretty damn close with thirty home run guy. He's the he's not listen to this. We haven't gotten to bold predictions yet. That usually happens first week first week of spring training last week of spring training. I mean so this is this. This deal totally indicates to me that their priorities standard the luxury tax luxury tax. Which means maybe a corey kluber signing for cheap money tonight. I think it brings tanaka back in the play honest but so they have ten million change to work with. So it's not going to sign for like six million bucks not six million but there could be a Some kind of a friendly deal. That i don't think to not getting much love on the on the free agent market. We're seeing with these guys are signing for and i think that was part of why lemay you took this offer as well. He's got stability now for the less for the for the remainder of his career. Tanaka tanaka might not be getting over ten million dollars on the free market. But i don't i like five to six million bucks for him seems really cheap. It does seem really cheap. I don't see him signing that. I see him going back to japan before he signs that yet he could probably get much more than that In japan and thinking like an incentive laden deal for kluber or paxton well incentives also affect your luxury tax so if the incentives of the contract allows for the player to make fifteen million dollars. Guess what that's your luxury tax hit. That's not your real dollars hit but that's your luxury tax hit. They're going to have to do something creative in order to foot. Fill this rotation out or we're going in with a bunch of kids. Which is you know scary. Exciting scary exciting at the same time. to me unnecessary. If you're going to dick around at this see this is the problem with the new york yankees now for for for me. This is a problem when we're this close to a luxury tax threshold and we just were handcuffed by it. I don't want to be handcuffed by any amount of money. The be handcuffed by money right so the fact that they would have to dick around and tinker and and you know not go for the the players that they need to fill out the roster just because of that that that is as a fan of this team it does not sit great with me. I'm excited that the yankees recite ulama. Who because he's he's honestly. This goes on corny. He's a joy to watch play baseball. Yes okay like he is fun to a joined. Watch baseball when you watch the play baseball. I have probably the most fun watching him play. Play the game because of the way he does it in how. It's different than a lot of the other players kind of to me like bittersweet. Because i see them now carrying about luxury tax. And i'm like well. This is not good enough to win a world series. Just because you re signed. Dj may even. If you're not going to go. It was the the absolutely saying they had to do. They had designed just to get back to baseline. Do that was not an addition assign addition. That's just like okay. Let's keep this team together. They also picked up. Britain's options so the things that they've done this offseason are just retained players. They needed to retain yet have not made any additions so going into next year. If you're not going to add anything else significant. I'm like will will shit. Like how are they going to get through four rounds of the playoffs. I don't care about the regular season anymore. I do not care about. So do you think the break cashman also is looking at that and says i have time. I have time to make these editions. When i can really find out what's happening. Midseason can check out what the landscape may be. There's the market is really not there. It's the trade market. The trade market is where where they're going to be adding to the team right. That's that's maybe a corey kluber on something and set something that's even incentives would probably keep pretty low for a guy like kluber or paxton are gonna sign a deal. It's going to be a one year deal because if they pitch well they don't wanna have to lock themselves and they want to set themselves up so you might be able to get paxton or kluber for like one year five million bucks because they can prove their good again in healthy and then they can sign a massive deal and you say thank you very much for your contributions c. c. cnn ever so because that because of the fact that free agency. There's not a ton there that it's going to add you're going in blowing this up and going. Trevor bauer eight. Why not let the landscapes of at least. I think they can roll of bed than the. He's got worse like significantly worse. Yep and now than any of the people that they thought they were going to add. Maybe george springer in play. But they got. Nobody didn't get better. I see the yankees because their rotation will probably their pitching staff as a whole will be decent enough to win a bunch of regular season games because it has been for the past few years because their offense will score a bunch of runs and they're pitching will keep them in a ton of games and they'll just win win baseball games the they're going to win and it doesn't even have a decent. Yeah you're you're overstating how even good at has to be because it. It doesn't even have to be that way they're gonna score a ton of runs again. I'm not worried about about making the playoffs. Obviously not really even that concerned with winning the alias. Because even if it doesn't happen guess what you're just you're still in the playoffs. Which is the goal. Let's let's roll scenario real quick. We don't add. Nothing is added to free agency. Where we're saying that the yankees have not done anything. And that's that's not improving their chances but we acknowledge that the trade market is probably the best route for the yankee sue improve the team so there there can be a delay on that that you may have to pay a higher price with prospects talent later in the season but there. They've done that a hundred times. They have no problem doing that. That being said they will know more about what their prospects are with the younger picturing pitching as well they will know more about what severino is Midseason more about his health is where he feels all these things so they will have a much better grasp of where they live in. The you know the landscape of the american league at that point and then they can go out and and try to foster some deals with short. You know what's what's probably a much more you A much more loaded list of guys that can help you at that point. I guess i guess their plan. That's probably going to be their plan. Is this does that. That seems like a reasonable plan at this business tickled my fancy. It doesn't tickle your fancy but it seems like at this point. When i'm looking around and i'm like okay the again trevor bauer. If it's not him. I don't know who who were going out to make. A big splash is can be like. Yep got it world series time. There's not that guy. Unless they're making a trade and the trade market you know. We have months and months and months to do that. I know i'm like i'm stumbling for my words because you're right and there's nothing to say to that is just. Let's wait and see how the rotation pans out and what they can. Add some point this this season okay. So we're so here's what we're doing here. Everybody let's listen up. We are leveling expectations where we're going in with some expectation this is. This is good news. Okay this is. We're taking a new approach right now. I'm i'm really happy about this. Because i feel like it's going to. It's going to help you out quite a bit to be honest. So we're gonna we're gonna look at this first half of the season and you know what we're going to look at. We're going to look at a lot of kids in the rotation and it's gonna be fun. We're going to watch them develop. It's gonna be like two thousand sixteen all over again but in a pitching staff and we're going to see these guys you know. Earn their keep so that the kids don't have to go out and make that trade so now because the american league and the regular season doesn't really matter during during the regular season. We we know that what's going to happen. We need to get the playoffs. That's the the end result so we got a little bit of time to let these kids grow to let them flourish and blossom into the flowers they may or may not be. This is excited as my problem with this. The goal still is to win. The world series in anything less than that for this team is a failure. Sure so i even if the the kids like you talk about start to pan out you say the the youths. I don't think the youths plus garrett cole is good enough to win a world series. you don't know what the youths are going to be in september august. You don't know what severino is going to be an august september. You don't know that i don't. I just telling the are going to be good enough if severino was healthy then now you're adding a that's got a potential in. He is a number one at speak. he's a number one. You have to look at what pitchers do when they come back from. Tommy john i understand the first season back. They're not pitching full strength there but they will know the they will have a much better idea of what he is at that point because if he is if he is contributing and domingo herman again a hugh another really big unknown here with with potential to you know he's got. He flashed to three potential. He lost more than that. Actually we flashed. But i don't know the more i'm thinking about this. And identifying what is out there in the current market space. There's not much to do unless you're in trump tower. I could see us talking in late. June and saying oh men like davy garcia has really been consistent. This year jordan. Montgomery took a step forward. And obviously garrett cole still pitching well it would be great to have those three going into the playoffs but guess what. They still need to do something at the deadline. They can't go in with those guys so even if the kids start to pan out you still need to add. But that's fine but they have time to do that. At least at that point they will know what what they have and they may be in desperate mode at that point. That's a very good possibility. If these guys are not panning out the way that they want ceferino is having hiccup after hiccup coming back and we're not seeing it you know it ends up being twenty twenty two which would not be the surprise. You know the most surprising thing in the world then they may get into desperation mode because they understand they still have to win. World series and now we're overpaying that could be as well that's a risk that's a big risk but as they can. Brian cashman in the market. Come to him almost. That's what time do you think their goal might be for the next couple like next month. See how they can dump salary but can they get someone to take half of that amount of contract. Can they get someone to. I mean they still need bullpen arms to so we lost mckinley. Which is a big job. But if they can offload four or five million bucks of adamant vino and just replace him with minor league arms like i think. That's i mean yeah. We in the long run favourable unless autumn adamant of you know you can figure something out and get that frisbee over the place there is not any. He's as a value add. There's not many places you can dump salary. That's that's what i'm saying like you're saying this like they. They can just do that. There's there's really not many places to do that. He's the only guy i can think of. Everyone else is not going anywhere right or they're not making a lot of money. Look voice not making a lot of money. jewish l. is not making the coast. Not going anywhere right There's yeah there's not there. They don't have much flexibility when it comes to the the payroll by which is why they just need to win a world series and safe fuck this luxury but again yeah. That's exactly it. We're saying they don't have flexibility but that's in reference to a luxury tax. That should be part of the conversation. It's frustrating when you're the yankees I get it. it's a business. I don't need to be lectured on the on the business and the fact of money. I know baseball. Indoor hal poor hell but it would be a real shame if we look back in three years from now and say they just didn't go for in these next couple of years and they because they don't want to go over the luxury tax and they didn't win the world series. That would that would rub me that. Would that would be a bad thing to be Looking back on really hoping to do that mad when they signed garrett cole to the best pitcher in baseball to a massive deal it's really. It's really crazy crazy. That were even saying that. Why are you so worried about the luxury tax. That is what i asked. That would be my first question to to brian. Cashman and hal steinbrenner and he might write a check. The trevor bauer tomorrow and shut us up. And i'm fine with that. I don't i don't see that happening. Because of the lemay who structure but again that would be going for it. No that's really the of course would be going for it. Okay but been even. i mean. that's obviously the the splash move for it but there are other ways that you can just really add depth depth to this team and go over the luxury tax like signing a few pitchers for a twenty five million dollars three pitchers for twenty five million dollars or something like that. I mean who is going to move the needle on on a world's reminding adding yet but that doesn't again that doesn't go back to your world series point. Depths doesn't get you a championship maybe not especially when the regular season has been you. It's been maybe. He made a practically irrelevant. Death doesn't get you have to make the splash move. You gotta you gotta make the guy you gotta eat impact player. That's gonna shove so. Then that's a trade trade or at signing trevor. Bauer like those are the impact moves. There's no other impact move on the market right now unless there's a trade for somebody that we just don't know maybe they're going after custodio for from from cincinnati like that to me is potential. You know work around where we're cashman's gotten get inflexible with the with the money that a move like that would not surprise me at all. No but i also would fear. That's just another. James paxton another. You can all you want. But that's that's going for an arm that is a top-flight arm it. I'm nina another knock him for for going after a guy lada they. I guess you gotta keep going back to the well. That's the only way to succeed at it. You gotta keep trying to keep throwing your darts all right. You're happy that his back. Obviously i'm happy that limit his back. Obviously they needed him in this lineup. Desperately i still think the lineup needs to get more diverse. So clint frazier baby here. We go that frazier's my guy. My new happy friday. Everybody hope you enjoyed this news. Hope enjoyed this episode. We'll be back at some time mid next week. Submit your mailbag questions and all that kind of good stuff. Anything else you wanna say. You can't close every episode now with signed digital. May maybe you wanna say sign more pitching. Get more pitching No i mean look. I'm to be honest. I talked to my just talked myself into waiting and looking at what the market is or just. Yeah let's make a trade. I'm ready for cash. Go cash and watch. Here's what i here's. Here's a breakdown. Brian cashman is on a mission now to redeem his name in acquiring a pitcher. He's he's going after that guy to shut everybody up to put a put a little bow on his legacy to win a world series and acquire the pitcher that gets them to that point via trade dossier the one black mark on his resume. It is and the fact that he needs another world series so you could put two under. He needs another world series. That's really his construct. He needs a world series. That's his construction and not a- prior Gm's construction if he goes out acquires an arm that helps them win a world series legacy cemented of course also because they in theory would also be players like aaron judge and labor torres and all the other people that brian cashman was responsible for acquiring contributing to that world series whereas ninety eight ninety nine two thousand that was all the the stick michael era that set that up and even two thousand nine i mean the core four was all still bear. Brian cashman signed see samatha and mark teixeira. I could've done matt through wanna cash people. Yeah he went out and made those that being said this is this is the there are opportunities out there. I believe there are opportunities within baseball. That he can go out and acquire. Somebody that's controllable. That will hit a bunch of the objectives of. They're looking for and give the yankees a much better to win a world series. And like you said that's that's it. That's the number one thing when a world series top-flight arms guys who can shove bats down people's throat in that's what we need. He tried it with jeff. Weaver didn't work out. He tried it with michael. Pineda didn't work out. He tried to james. Paxton didn't work out. He tried it with nathan of all the didn't work out. Sonographic time charm tried it with sonny gray. Didn't work out six times a charm for brian. Cashman maybe going back to the well. We'll talk to you guys next week. Hey guys thanks for listening to the bronx pincer show. Make sure you find us an itunes and subscribe to you can get all new episodes directly onto your phone if you do like to show we'd love you to take a minute and give us a five star rating and review in itunes. It really helps us out and allows us to create more shows. We're on twitter at bronx pinstripes and the same on facebook. 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Starting 9 Episode 203 - Mike Soroka & LCS Time

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Starting 9 Episode 203 - Mike Soroka & LCS Time

"Starting. Off. Episode two three it is league. Championship series episode. It is also speaking of one of the teams that has gained access to the National League Championship series the Atlanta Braves. It is also the Mike so Rocca episode two time. SAROKA through time starting nine guests Dallas. Spoiler. Alert Dog I know you spoiler alert for those who are wondering. He doesn't have a dog. He's fucking. None of it he's allergic to. Dogs. That exists where you can have them in not be allergic to them. hypoallergenic. Dogs, they have them they make them I. There's definitely learnt their medications that you can take that. Even. If you are allergic to dogs, you like your your magically not allergic to them anymore is that am I making that up i? Think you're making that up? I. Feel like that's something that he would know there. He looks like he's allergic shit. There's a pill for James is he's allergic to allergy definitely. Yeah. He's definitely one of those kids who had to get thrown on the table early on have a bunch of fucking needle stuck in his back. He's allergic tiny to do that. Honestly I really do don't do it because you're gonNA find out you're allergic to fucking everything, and then you're going to be living in this crazy bubble like. We'll go outside today I'm thirty one years old to raindrops. I. Think it was like this time last year I found it know what? Is. Sure, do I'm allergic to elderberry like very bad But I think how are you allergic to elderberry? So I had it was it was it was after I had that horrible flu last when we got back from L. A., which by the way, I, definitely have the corona virus like one thousand percent had it. It was when we went from La to New York and then I had that horrible flu throughout Christmas almost Fuckin- died, and then I started taking elderberry for my immune system and right after that I just started breaking out in hives and rashes everywhere. You're allergic to elderberry. Yes like my it was. So we started a natural antioxidant and I started keeping a log of where the rashes would breakout. So they only like I would take elderberry in the morning and then at night I'll get like a rash on my arm Arash on my hands Arash on my knees and a rash on like my Achilles the back my foot it was crazy. I got. An image of you like by candlelight wearing fucking stalking like. Like Evan Ezer. True. I didn't know why do writing into a journal with a blood pin. Day seven of the elderberry I feel like violent Bo regard from fucking trust the chocolate factory. Huge purple and swollen. I. After my land. Terrible is cerebral. Sure. Sure way your eyelid swallow. Why are you bleeding out of your ears? Is that ADL seepage? Spoke, this is my elderberry acted up again. Yeah. The elderberry like that took me down. I mean I've I've had some run INS with some things that have almost taking me down elderberry was probably one of my most formidable opponents. Date night where I was I was out to dinner. I was out to dinner. Breaking out in hives. How's your elderberry ice cream? A Kid. Interstate you your lips are seventeen seventy types or Was Bad it was real bad but you know it's real good Roman. They are. I mean. Did you did you try to swipe your fucking face after the elderberry I mean listen I. Know I'm not allergic to Roman because I've been. Doing, the little sweeps swipes and it's like you know what? It's life changing kind of how like elderberry was life changing the wrong way Roman has been life changing in a positive way because now I can I can last twice as long during sex. So I'm getting like at least fifty seconds in there. And You Keep your able to keep your focus maintain. She doesn't have to worry about she could feel the elderberry projectile vomiting coming right around the corner. She's probably thinking I pray to God. He did not use a Roman swiped and I could see the look on his face right now and if he's used a Roman. Swipe. Here. Yeah. I don't know that I want to end up with elderberry vomit all over myself right. So until Roman can come up with a swipe to get rid of the elderberry gentlemen you're just to have to take. Jared's word for it that the Roman Swipe will indeed just one little. And that'll keep you going as long as you need to and we know you're not going to be embarrassed. Do you get this shits into your doorstep the doorman he's not throwing it to you like hell corrobos another I'll try to postpone the Annette. Conversations. Happened now. It's easy. Discreet. DRILL GET ROMAN DOT com slash starting your whole first month swipes boys your whole first month. Five Bucks when you choose a monthly plan, so figure out your monthly plan. To. Swipe Who's going to be wearing your elderberry projectile? Do it for her or him? GO TO GET ROMAN DOT com slash starting. Do yourself a favor to everybody feels yeah. It is. It's life changing. It is life changing to be able to. Not have that embarrassing talk at the NBA like. That doesn't happen a lot. So what happened here you should take it as a compliment. Thought. You were a baseball guy The new three batter minimum looks like it was the sluggish, the maximum you but three and out that doesn't I mean I'll be honest. It doesn't. It's not something that happens to me often but when it does I kind of laugh. At the fuck know. Silly What do you want from? We were really into that one where you just throw the we in there you're roper in there with you. I mean. You can also just throw Promo Code Atr be there hey to avoid this in the future go to get Roman dot com slash starting. You're good to go and now never happened again. So it's up to you just slip these your slip these in my back pocket at the Bar I have no idea you've done that I walk into, take a Piss I feel something about and then I oh, Shit just a little swipe here and I'm going to be dialed in late Don deal. Yeah. Speaking of dialed in. Garrett, Cole is dialed in on Friday night. Didn't matter though. You know it was. The Table Bay Razor Moving on Dallas and I don't. I. I will say this obviously, I picked the Tampa Bay rays to be in the world series this year. And I like some people would Sherpur not me being like, Oh, you really don't out on Olympic and the number one seed, and it's like fuck the seedings like going into the playoffs there. I. Mean the seedings weren't exactly. They were not an exact science. I mean when you had in the National League side of things in the wild car around, you had the braves versus the reds that was a two seven that feel like a two seven matchup to you Dallas. As far as the talented you. What the game was, the gap was not that big fuck the fuck, the CEO and it was a one hundred. It was not one, hundred, sixty, two game season. So I mean, you've heard plenty of guys say this. namely. Carlos Correa the Houston Astros being like, Hey, we play one sixty, two that playoff bracket looks a lot different teams that would be in that weren't in there seems to be out that were out. The seatings would be all over the place you still have. Like people forget sixty games, it's a third of Major League baseball season third. So yeah I think that there is something to be said. About the calendar, turning to October and teams being able to flip a switch and I know that you don't feel the same way dowse another you don't you don't agree. But how can it be denied when you look at a team? Like the Houston Astros I mean the flip done ben switched like no, it's not to say, no, I don't I don't say that a team that. You can't flip a switch over a period of time. I mean literally overnight like like you have a team just struggling mightily and then. Like all of that goes away. Don't you feel like that's happened with the Astros though. They have had guys that have been good all year long and there have been other guys that have been marginal that have now step that portion of their game. And a guy that you immediately point to is Jose Altuve and this is what it looks like when the Astros are good and with the Astros are healthy and the astros are playing well together collectively you see that kind of first one that could give you the impression that it feels like a switch has been fucking flipped boom overnight because travis within about well, all year long Kyle Tucker. Three point in time whereas like you're not going to get the fucking dude out there was a lot of Guy Gurriel. struggled. To base struggled springer struggled, but it seems like you were Maldonado I think for and it might have been. A week and a half to period but Maldonado came up with some big knock fragments or. Bregman was, and then you have all that stuff start to balance itself out. Right guys are getting healthy again, guys are a little further down the line in this season and the rest is starting to shake off and for the Astros it's all happening at the right time. Yeah. So that's why you get the sense that like it's a flip, that's been switched or it's a switch that's been flip excuse me but. It's really just about one or two guys starting to show up with consistency that you've been used to. Yeah, and and I think for me I was hoping that would happen with the white sox and it looked like it was going to for twenty four hours I mean that was a team that dragged ass to the finish line like once they clinched it was Kinda just like this is seven out of the last. Ten, that's why as ended up in the Buchan to spray right of the slide of the White Sox, right I mean the white sox they dragged ass to the finish line after they clinched a playoff spot and then game one g Lido comes out absolute fucking monster. If you've been watching the livestream Dallas and I have been doing we basically you had an interview instead of just like pop on shooting the ship, we basically got to interview him about. That whole experience of his first postseason start, and after the like I was like, okay like maybe this is it. This is that was dominant. Perfect through seven I believe and it was like night and day this is a different white sox team they look energized and then the as take the next two and that that's really the story but the Houston Astros Doing what they've done. I don't want to say that I'm surprised because I'm not like it was kind of one of those things it was groundhog's day either it was going to happen. It wasn't like I I honestly gave it as high as fifty fifty odds like this team is going to be like, Hey, you know we're Kinda. We. Kind of playing dumb all year like we were taking our lumps in. We're doing what we were going to do, and then it's like now like like Dallas has made this point playing with house money, it's like we got nothing to lose. We had a losing record first American league team to ever make the postseason with a losing record. No one thinks that we're going to do this and at. Bam, knockout punch to the twins come in here. and. I guess. The the switch has been flipped because it's A game one. And they've been there for four straight years does it feel like that to you? Yes four straight year well I guess you're fucking guests for you. You must you must. You must be paying. Attention to that street going for four straight years of getting to the American League Championship series for the Houston Astros. Yeah I, mean I feel kinda crazy I feel silly for for pig against them I mean this is this is a team with some postseason pedigree, but before we talk about. We to put a bow on that. Yankee. Season and for the first time in a long time I find myself agreeing with hubs because hubs is big take after that season was over was coming at Aaron Boone for saying. that. The season was not a failure. Incorrect Aaron Boone incorrect. you go out and get Garrett Cole. You like if you don't win the world series, that's a failure and I'm sure if you everybody associated with that fucking station was Chirpin and bumping their gums the minute that that came across the wire about this being the piece that they need. Oh this is done. Quite. Literally started chalking up championships over the duration and the life of Garrett Kohl's new contract. Oh. Why you? How many do I like three at least three at least that's a number that I kept hearing like three. At least you sign that guy and you tell me three at least and you've got a season in which everybody in there fucking mom is being led into the postseason and you can't lock it down then. You can't lock it down. Then you only needed a third of the starts we're going to get out of Garrett Cole this year you'll need a third of those, not all thirty, three of them. Just, eleven twelve just roughly that many. And that wasn't enough the the Sanchez debacle, the injuries like you could call it what you want, but you don't get to run your mouth the way you did in December. And then backtracked because you didn't win the world series and. Yeah but we've had time to think about it and and really for us it's not a failure. What will you know what? It is in your fucking wrong. and. Think of this Dallas like the two, thousand, nine, hundred and Astros had. Garrett. Cole. A Better version of Garrett Cole and Justin. Verlander who won the CY young and still didn't win the world series so I don't know where. Some of these fans got off thinking mainly hubs in his cringe video. Guys fucked where would you the next decade worth a world series? It's like well, no your rotation after Colle I mean I guess. Subs the misconception is I think I eric he couldn't pitch all the game, the oppression, right? You don't get to pitch like you don't make all of the starts that year you make all of your stones like all of his so thirty three times you get to see him not one, sixty two there's other guys that have to be right. I do think that if and when Luis Severino comes back that you're talking about a really really good one two punch there. I think people forget like how good Severino really is I mean when that guy is on he's fucking electric bike. He is absolutely electric but we just haven't been able to see it from him on a consistent basis, and then he kind of just made an ass of himself forgetting what time the fucking playoff game started being late for his bullpen and then being on the mound for the worst loss in Yankees postseason history you can't you can't. It's it's tough to be. It's tough to be looped in with that but. The. Motivation. Yeah. Maybe I mean not that he needs any, he's his. Electric regardless. But the got some free agents coming up. And none more important than DJ Lemay. I mean it's Lemay Hugh. It's Tanaka and I WANNA say there's like two more who am I missing take Takla Mayhew? Out about lineup. and. What do you? What do you see? A gaping. Hole. I mean like I put it this Way Dallas I'm willing to bet a Paxon's and other free agent. I'm willing to bet a lot of money on Lemay Hugh not going anywhere like that's a guy to me that I mean first of all the Yankees. The Yankees are going to have every motivation to bring him back and I feel like Dj Lemay Hugh. who was extremely talented in his time in Colorado probably. Probably didn't want. Him. When he was in Colorado I'm sure he was one of the guys that resented the notion that he was a product of course field. because. He is insanely talented. One of the best hitters I think that we've seen Like during his generation. And then he comes to New York and finally get credit for just being a good hitter like no one is talking about ballpark adjustment with with Dj Lemay Hugh now that he's Yankee. But. This was also a guy that when he came to the Bronx they were like they didn't have a spot for him. It was fucking gleyber it second it was. Miguel and. At third GIO or shell didn't even exist yet. And then you had. Short and he not only was he dealing with the hey, you're you're chorus field product and Colorado then he comes to the Yankees and it's like well, you're you're more of a bench guy here and it's Actually I'm not actually I'M GONNA I'M GONNA. Let you know that I'm probably the best hitter on this team. So you're going to find a spot for me one way or another that's up to you. That's what that's what that's what the market there does. Two guys though like you and it's about whether or not you're able to capture and capitalize on it quickly enough to make that who you are and what I mean is labor. Good was there any? was there anybody on the? Earth. A year ago who was going to tell you that Labor tour wasn't going to be a hall of fame second Baseman or shortstop whatever for the fucking for the New York Yankees based on the way he was swinging the bat. Like they were just they were saving space and in Monument Park out there to to put one up for him. Now little struggle goes by and. Like can't can't even have him here. Get Him of here. Don't need him and that's kind of Shit that happens lemay you. Like you said. What's this guy going to be? We've got guys we got guys that can hit the ball. We got young studs. We're not worried about these like Lemay. Hugh. Yes. Sure. He'll be a nice stopgap whatever no no, and he's like the one of the big things like the inside Jokes Lemay Hugh is that he's like super boring and monotone towards the end there. Definitely definitely in year one with the Yankees Super Boring and like never. Said anything interesting and they interviewed him and he was super awkward and whatever. But I think in year two once he established I'm a guy like I am an important piece of this team not the fucking bench player that you thought you signed. Then he started opening up and saying more interesting things in what he was saying comes from a place of extreme self confidence in obviously himself but also his team when it was what? Like two three weeks before the postseason even started. He's direct quote. I think we have the best team in the League still were definitely the most talented. Like, that doesn't sound like some. Dj. He would say last year. So I think Yunky fans know how important he to that team And I it is. Kevin. KFC made this as a joke, but it's a legitimate point. If the Yankees can't win a world series with Aaron Judge in Giancarlo Stanton in sixty game season. How are you going to do it in a one, sixty, two like this this was the perfect year for the Yankees to win a world series because two of their biggest bats are two of the most injury-prone players in major league baseball. So you had the luxury of, Hey, we don't need you to to bang up your body over one, sixty two. It's only sixty games go out there and empty the tank and let's let's fucking get this job done. And they couldn't do it. They both still got hurt they both had stints on the injured list in the defense of the injury stuff. You just were coming off a year in which we saw a team like the nets struggle the way they did and whether that's because of a lack of production or lack of personnel, the record was what it was. Right Nineteen thirty whatever the hell it was. It was just abysmal. And if that team is able to turn around a win the world series, a lot of that has to do with having the time to endure. To withstand, enter start to get better on the other side of all those injuries during that downtime during that, you know that slog. So for the last two months of the season they're able to. Get their act together. Stabilize themselves create a little momentum heading into the postseason that may very well be the case for the Yankees over one sixty two. So I can appreciate the the the stance like look you got everybody you need to win a world series and Wurley asking you to play a third of that type of season right now, you mean to tell me a third of the season with this lineup. You guys aren't going to be able to separate yourselves, and the answer is dubbed becomes very tough because regardless of how good you think one team might be you can have another team who wasn't even on your radar. Playing. Ridiculously sound baseball getting big knocks when they need to and their early record over sixty games could look a lot different kind of like the flip side of what the nats record look like lashing. So I can appreciate thinking and having expectations of the Yankees to just kick the shit out of people based on their lineup and dam or they're going to be able to do it ever if they couldn't do it in this type of scenario but. For every team that you think should be dominating the world in a short burst. There's always going to be teams that you never saw coming kind of like the Florida Marlins. Those teams that you just don't have under radar can show up whether you invite them or not So, just to kind of put a bow on that. The Yankees will have. Dj Lemay Mayhew Masahiro Tanaka. James Paxton and then of course, a State Trooper Gardner is also a free agent. So Gardner things. Partner thanks for calling I. Don't know about that I. Think I think Gardner is kind of one of those guys that. He's just going to get the Tim Wakefield treatment. He's either going to retire or come back and a one year deal forever, and I'm sure that he's GonNa. Take below market value to stay with the Yankees, and I'd be surprised if if they moved on it when he's just gonNa be like hey. How's eight? Million Sound House three, three sounds great. Yeah and there you go. So. I don't know what a deal for Masahiro Tanaka. Let's like to You Dallas like what are we talking for? Like a view two I was GONNA say to to an option. Okay. To the option. and. That's just just to Kinda see if how big this window for coal early on the health of Stanton and judge. Tanakh as younger than I thought he's thirty one. So if you're coming at me with two with an option, there's got to be a team out there like. The Yankees Right now depending on Severino would be bringing Tanaka back to be a to. Whereas there's probably another team out there that we like, Hey, we'd love to have you as a three and we'll give you a four years to do it. Great that sounds good me if I if that's and. Again, there are the one thing that there's there's just one massive thing that's going to impact all of this, and that's what the playoffs scenario looks like That that's that that matters that matters I, promise you that matters like we can't. We can't and we will but just know that every time. We have a conversation moving forward. About free agency trades or anything like got building the team and It all has to do I can't give you that answer until I know what next year is playoff format looks like Sarah Yeah but I got DJ coming back I got a garden come back and that's IT I. mean they don't want Paxton back. And then Tanaka I feel like they're they're going to get outbid there and then and then you know I don't know what the don't. They have a pitcher that was promised in the way. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. They have the picture. There was promise promise. Yeah. He's a great number four on a good rotation Outside of that, I mean like, do they entertain I I saw our boy Trevor Bauer was Kinda tickling the balls of Garrett Cole which I kinda gets puts the bed the whole or do they have a good relationship or do they not I mean you know exactly what the fuck he's doing he's. Trevor Bauer Trevor Bauer might as well have tweeted. Hey, Yankees. I know there's some rumors confront on that I don't like Garrett Cole, but I definitely want your offer on my table so that I can take that to another team the bump up that offer. Let me know here's here's the question does care coal what is that conversation like between Cashman and Garrett Cole Hey gear so obviously, you're going to be a Yankee until you know I don't want Trevor Bauer on this team. Well guess what Garrett we need him, and we're going to be more than willing to give him the money that he is deserting So we need you to. To have a coup by and figure it the fuck. Does that conversation happen or does Trevor Bauer and everything he comes with? Just, already. Like. Basically allow. Garrett Cole to go look if the conversations we had when you recording me. Were of any substance and mine what they meant. Then then we're going to have that same conversation now and I'm going to be the one telling you that this is not how this is going to go. I can't operate with that Kinda Shit here like I showed up and told you that the guy you're going to try to force feed me to catch me every day is just not going to get it done and you didn't like that. But. Now you now you what or yeah. You know he is my bucket personal backstopping and we're never going to entertain anything other than that. So How does that go because gear? Cool can't Control Trevor Power and Gary Cole can't control whether or not hours wearing a fucking GOPRO or shoot a video on the way off the bus and gear cold is not going to have any control over that to the point where he gets to tell cashman no, he's not coming. So let's fast forward and put Trevor Bauer in pinstripes. How does that go down? How are they able to come to an agreement? Is that possible? I? Just like I get that it's the juicier story to be like can Trevor Bowring Garrett Cole make amends and can they be this one two punch in the Bronx I think the bigger thing I guess more I don't know who it deters more like does it deter the Yankees that he's basically a walking media company inside your organization or is Trevor Bauer, deterred from going there at the idea that they might be against it We're talking about a team, a franchise, the Organization of the New York Yankees who Today are embroiled in a court battle on whether or not. They want to have the words that had been written down on paper spoken out to the general public for fear of what that opinion could formulate and what that would make their organization look at how they would be viewed and perceived. So, yeah. The Yankees are very well aware of what Trevor Bauer comes with and whether or not they want to deal with It's to what links will Trevor Bauer go as an investigative journalist to get the truth. Would he sign with the Yankees for a year just to get the letter unsealed? That's that's right there. That's doing gilman days going undercover. Guys like I'm wanting you. Now let's see the letter. Let's check it out. Are We got? All these people clamoring we all know he just looking for a little edge right over Garrett colapinto. Right. Just. Looking for the I'd love for that I. And I'm wondering you guys now. So where were the cameras in eighteen I mean I know you guys using them like the videos are out there like just to what links where we going I mean we I, mean, come on like I'm a I'm a I'm a guy yeah. Jersey A. Dude? Who's all the he is he's A. He's the guy you're like. Fuck I okay. We can invite him. But if we invite him, does this fucking brother half to come like this brother have to come to the birthday party I didn't do asleep over last year's brother fucking had to come his brother showed up with them. Is there any way we get his brother to stay home like his brother being momentum's his brother being the media? The Media Group that comes with them, and that's it's like you're looking around your. Flock Man. He to have here but. To fuck but he's got his brother we all. fucking. Not Cool a little. He's GonNa. He's GonNa tweet about what's going on here he's GonNa, take pictures be cool. Be Cool or the Sean. Yeah. So that's that's going to be the the way but I guess if you do spend three hundred and twenty, six, million dollars on Garrett Cole and you. A his opinion matters and be you got eliminated in the division series. So now you're taking a step backwards by you made it to the CIS. and. Then you get eliminated in the division series and you know. As of right now. As of right now. You don't have DJ Lemay you on your team you don't have Masahiro Tanaka so not only did you get eliminated the division series but now you're presumably getting worse you're becoming these baseball team and get colds a year either. Break Brian Cashman just needs to go by like two pounds a high loss go. And kidnap. Garrett Cole Trevor Bauer, and lock him in a sweat lodge for a week until don't come out until you both can call each other's pitches blindfolding. That's how that's how much I want you on the same page I. Want you to be able to call each other's pitches and catches catch each other's bullpens blindfolded at the end of this. That's how Bauer and Garrett Cole will be able to. Reunite and Missing a couple of other resources, but they could be fitted be captain planet if they needed to. Yeah the more we talk about it the more. Like The Yankees are probably just going to offer our one year forty, million dollars. I can't wait for Trevor Bauer. I can't wait for somebody to sign that fucking forty million dollars. I think it's going to be Bauer I cannot wait. I cannot what that'll be my life's work all wrapped into one right there I told you. I think Bauer. I. Think Bauer will sign for like one year forty with like. Whoever it is I mean I think his negotiations will go like. Teams will make him multiple offers. Hill have the opportunity to pick which one he likes the most. Like we'll we'll sign you one year at X. Two years y five. Z. Which one you like like I feel like it's going to be something like that where multiple offers from one team we're going to be coming in. Yeah. Well, you're GONNA and that's that's why this free agency and that's why he's going to be such an interesting case study him in his representation. And I don I don't know if I don't know how how what are possibilities are being able to get inside? On on that but that'd be a great of Greek bit of information to have. Yeah. That's why once it's all said and done. Once. Bauer decides which team he signing with. WE'LL BE HAVING HIS AGENT Lupu on the podcast to break down the behind the scenes stuff she she's got her own podcast with momentum. She does it with our girl just Kleinschmidt. WHO's a starting nine alumni herself. That's all the questions that we are kind of hypothetically posing right now I feel like we're going to eventually have answers to and will probably be the first podcast to have those answers, which is pretty neat. Well it's to be you. It's it's exciting because I want to know right now. Right now is his agent, his agency. What what is she doing? What are they doing to ready themselves for what should be? One of the biggest moments of his career Trevor It's GonNa. Be Interesting. So that kind of puts a bow on the Yankee Season Kinda. There are a lot of the Yankee fans who listen to start nine, which again I appreciate I appreciate you give me a chance the as La, fans that will defend me too when I got Yankee fans coming at my throat. When I'm trolling on twitter but they're like, hey but if you listen to starring nine like you know he's pretty fair it's pretty and I would agree with that I am. One hundred percent impartial and bias on starting. As. It pertains to the Yankee Conversation let's say. So we'll be talking more about what they're going to be up to this off season. Now, their season is over. Again, in the division series We've got astros rays game. One of the CS which I guess it kind of slipped my mind. I didn't realize obviously I realize because I watched it like this. This is a rematch last year they played each other in the division series. I completely forgot about that but. I didn't. Like I remember. Going back and watching the footage because we literally talk about it I. Think it was on the last episode of the episode before that Tyler Glasnost Tipping his pitches that against the Astros and you being able to read Bregman Lips to Korea, telling him what the tips, what's yeah what the tips were. So. You had that performance in game five, Glasgow goes out there. On two days rest and goes what two plus. A two, hundred, thirty, two to thirty two. Just fucking. Hero Ball Hero Ball Dallas. This guy is a sex monster who goes out onto the mound and throws a hundred pieces with a hammer curve ball. You're not seeing that every day you're really not. So you have that and we're you surprised the Kevin Cash didn't piggyback Blake Snell. With with Tyler Glasnost in game five doer Di. He kind of just was like, all right. I'm going to get as much as I cannot a glass now and then let's empty the tank with the bullpen. Not at all because Kevin cash and this is something that. I've talked about at length on this podcast. This is something I talked about. When it hit and how things were going to be handled and manipulated. Something I talked about with the injured list. There's going to be teams who understand and figure out a way to utilize their AAA bullpen as an extension of their big league bullpen and if you do that. And you do it consciously and it is a real part of your business model and it's not just stay. Sort of an emergency fallback plan that you have a little experience with. then. You're in a you're operating in a different world. Then a lot of other teams and that's how the raise our operating is. They know who they have down there. They know what they're capable of, and they're not worried about the lack of body of work or the lack of an example to give them the confidence they need in running guys out there. They will give those guys who have earned the opportunities in their minds to get the outs that they know they're going to have to get at some point in time in their career and why not now? Why not now because You're going to get these else now and we're going to get to where we need to be, and that will allow me the manager Kevin Cash. To operate the way that, I, know will give us the best chance to win the ball game and that's not piggybacking Blake Snell that's allowing Blake Snell, the time and the rest and knowing that he is going to be our best option against whoever were facing. That's how we need to go about this right now, and that's exactly what they did and so I love that Kevin cash has showed the confidence in that stable that he has put us all on notice about and they are running. and. They are running magnificently four fucking innings of shutout baseball for that bullpen in game. One of the ails stable put some fucking respect on their name Dallas. It's the stable. Did you see they've got shirts now? Oh man it's there I think. Castio is wearing the shirt after game one of the. Last night. I think it's like a a picture of a horse with ninety eight on it. That's fucking awesome. I love that I. Love the fact that you know there there were people that were Kevin. Coaches. He's threatening the Yankees and Blah. It's like now he's he's simply just hyping up his boys like I got a stable of dudes that thorough ninety eight. So if you want to do this, we can do this and I'm sure that fire them up like nothing I think. When you think about the Tampa Bay Rays Historic idea what that does for of course, I have no idea when you're manager because basically. As a bullpen. Guy. Like the only interaction you have with your manager is when he's walking around during BP's got the bat in his hand he's got his phone go and it's just coming up to check on you. Feel? Anything you need today skip. Hey through yesterday. Twenty plus how you feel whatever you need to get, and that's the extent of those interactions for the most part and. When you get called on that gives you an idea of what the manager feels about. You. Right leverage situation up by one seven eighth inning and it's your name that gets called. You have a good idea of how he feels about you right? Well, if you don't in your kind of in that limbo, let me tell you when that manager on national television talks about your group as being the like Oh, hold on. Did we just watch our manager get put on the hot seat a little beaten someone's talking Shit and his response. is to identify us as the fucking threat we are the. Not Anybody in that starting rotation not Kevin Cure Meyer not choy who's GonNa Spend your fucking lit on the mound no US Boyce us the stable as he has just named. US. Right they didn't know they were the stay on. Until two seconds after. And, then once the stable was bored, jared each and every one of those motherfuckers heart grew to the size of secretary and there's no fucking chance that those dudes take the mount at any point in time during this season, not feeling like they are God with a baseball in there. Yeah. That's what that does for. Oh Yeah. You got that guess what I fucking got. And I think next week. We'll get to talk to a member of the stable. Yeah. So chew on that for a second member of the stable. Who? You know he's he's had some soundbites of his own Kevin Cash. These are cool. Yes they do. Kevin Cash has had some quotable post game press conferences, but this member, the stable not too not too shabby himself in that regard. So after game. One. You do get now that first-inning Snell gives up the homer to Jose altuve eight. What are you feeling? Are you like? Are You thinking Oh shit? This astros team is. They are for real like this is this is how much thing out of my mouth I. Audibly said this mother fun. As I said, it just like them susell to hit that on. This motherfucker because he has just. He's turned it on the postseason and has not stopped. Hasn't stopped it. I. was I was worried I was genuinely worried because I was thinking to myself. What I hope doesn't happen now is Snell. Tries to punch out the womb even more than he probably was already thinking about because that would have ended disastrously and I talked about it on morning would with smell high punchout guy astros hardest team to punch out in baseball. So are you going to fight that battle or you going to? Are. You going to understand the landscape and stick with your game plan and make your pitch. How are we gonNA go about this and he was able to shrug that on. Keep it rolling stuck with the game plan. Sure. Five innings did some bobbing and weaving like I said but. At that point in time you've given your team a chance knowing that you do have what you have down there in that bullpen. So rose arena comes up goes football big fly off before that even happened. I think it was his first at bat and he waved at like ninety four up I. Don't know what he was expected US probably trying to. Fight off something off speed. But he had one of the ugliest swings I've ever seen and. Just think about the DNA in the character of this dude. Go back to. Game Five. Drilled Garrett Cole lights him up with ninety seven, smile no sells it like doesn't even smell like he he he stares back Garrett Cole walks slowly deliberately to first base with this look on his face of Gq I'm going to fucking kill you like I'm going to kill you his next time up is when. Gardner brought back, right? Yeah. So he fucking he to he he barrels this ball. And he pimps it, he styling it going up the baseline. Brett Gardner catches it brings it back so but he that's what happens. It's like he is. He's got a lot of Jose Batista. We talked about this on the stream I believe about. Why why do people hate Jose Batista like the Guy? People. Hated him after he pimped a homer but we love everyone that pimps homers. Now he's the one that got punched in the face by Route Netto. Door. He's the one that got thrown at all the time and when he got thrown at, he would immediately respond with a homer like that's fucking bad ass. Why didn't we? Why don't we like him more? It was bizarre I don't understand it I love Joey bats but. With the Rose Arena it's the same thing happened. He got hit by Garrett Cole and Game Five, and then he hit what would have been a homer Guarded and bring it back and then in game one. It's not like he was saying, fuck you to the Pitcher, but he's more dissenting like art. I Made Myself Look really stupid on that swing, which was a strike three and then his next at bat homer. So he is. The occasion guy. He's not getting beat on a heater twice. No is is is the Tako message. He just had to remind himself fuck I need to quit. Trying, to guess right now and let me just get back to being reactionary get back to being you know and that's exactly what he yeah. That's exactly what happened. Yeah. Blake Snell ends up going five innings, six hits one earned run to walks to strikeouts, and then the L. homer. The Astros albeit having some really good right hand bats Gurriel a Bregman L. Two. Guys like that. They haven't hit lefties well at all this year. Really they were kind of like they were below middle of the pack in terms of batting average. Against, left handed pitching although steel big fucking spat. What are you have to? On. The. The Best Dude. Yes. Five outs in the best dude on the astros with the bases loaded. Yeah Grill. Yeah. Guy Hitting Damn near five. Hundred's pretty good. That's that means he's he's made an out half the time. Roughly. Roughly, will we will math are asking? This podcast you come here for the baseball for the leave having a better understanding of and not just. That's exactly exactly. What you brought him in the ballgame. Throw me the Sankar crowd this front foot fucker in Gurriel and do not give him a chance to get his hands through the zone close to his body line because Gurriel grill could stay inside of a ball thrown behind him. That's fucking good. CORREAL is at getting to balls inside and frankly keeping them fair at times with authority. So for to steal to come in there, everybody in the ballpark knows. Here comes ninety nine here comes the ground ball and he gets it one pitch. Pure sex also I for All who the ball who, who the ball. Talking about. Cure Meyer. Cut A double off. I. Think it was Bregman Cure Meyer. Cut A ball off in left center that would have been shoot have been maybe a double cure Meyer did not allow that to happen. Kept. The run. Off of second base, kept running out a scoring position and. I believe there was another hit in that inning and guys ended up second third. But they were able to get out of it, and that doesn't happen if cure Meyer does it make the incredible effort he made to cut the ball off and keep homeboy at first base. So there was some there was some big plays an game that would go. Under appreciated. I think so I just wanted to make sure that folks understood that that was a maybe not a turning point. Very. Well could have been a turning point. I'd like to get care Myron here just just to look at them. Y. was going to say he'd have to wear a he'd have to work. That's no way. fucking. You want me to look. For A fucking the leave my white literally the only reason why one on the pocket we don't even have to talk just let me look at them a little bit. We'll just we you know we do. We'd get them on. Just like five minutes, we can start recording the video and everything and just have them like a just lighting. So he's just a strike in different not. Little. squint one. A. Little. Three face, scan for a video game. He's adoring we often to this off. Could you please? But yeah no raise take game one and I didn't it was an exciting game you know to one low scoring game and you knew that I think I think that's what the postseasons going to be from here on out I tweeted the stat yesterday about the remaining teams that are in the postseason compared to the teams have been eliminated. They're like a mid mid to era whip around one canine above ten like the teams that are in right now the last four teams. Deal fast, you're going to see that you hear these you hear these two stats which once both pertaining to the rays game. Not. A fastball thrown. Under ninety seven miles an hour for the entire game. Average fastball velocity. Ninety seven miles an hour was that was that game one of the Astros as or was that game five of the might have been gained five of the. Yankees. Raise either way. The take home message here is at this point you're just getting. From here on yeah. It's just fucking fuel for from the PITCHER's mound and. On the hitter site things. Not. One sack. This entire postseason. Not One. Single sack lunch. That's well I guess from Tampa side of things that's surprising. But everywhere else I mean these teams are here to fucking. Mash These these these teams are all about the launch angle. One. Oh. I guess I gotTa ask you now how do you at now that one Tampa How do you see this series going? Is this one that the rays just simply overmach Houston or are we going to see a dogfight and this was just this was just who draws first blood I and and we've got a long way to go in this thing. I think we might have a long way to go the one thing that could I think shock people that if you haven't been watching the Astros. All Year long might take you by surprise is they've had some young is in that bullpen do very welfare. But they are young and whether or not. They can maintain that over these next four days or maybe only three days and depending on what they get out of the guys that start the ball games forum that. Is What's going to be the the difference maker for me because? Taking about. This, becoming a bullpen series. I'm taking the race And if that situation unfolds a little earlier than maybe the Astros would like. Meaning their starters, two three inning kind of kind of get worn out, and now those guys in the bullpen are going to be relied upon more frequently I don't I don't like that at all and that's when she gets really ugly for the Astros. I believe that this series will go into game five tied. I don't know what order we're going to take to get there. But I do think it's GonNa be a dog fight series. I? Think we're going into game five tied. and. Whoever wins game five also wins Game Six I. Think the series is over in six Hams. and. I just. I feel like it's not it's not the matchup that everyone wanted to see. I feel like if you're a die hard fan baseball fan, you can at least appreciate the narrative of. Like. The matchup that happened last year, the pitch tipping, but that's obviously not as sexy as. Yankees Astros round three but. I said this morning would. I want to know where you're out on this because obviously I love the race I love this team. And they're fun to watch however. How. Much would those dodgers do it for you in the world series? How much would that tickle the boss? On that'd be great and as my grandma revealed to you the other day up dodger fan. Fuck your face. my mother was a dodger fan and that was the first Jersey that was ever put on me about my will but I would love. To, watch a team that. I think a lot of people are pulling for regardless of their greatness. They, want to see a good team. Finally succeed. Partly because we can quit talking about it now but there's also some guys there that you want to have their day in the sun. I cannot live in a world Kershaw we're. Right, I can't live in a world where weaker she. Doesn't have a world. I'm with you I can't live in that world I refu- fuck that I refuse to live in them. We don't even Clayton Kershaw being the Dan Marino of major league baseball. We don't need that. Thank you. Thank you thinking because like like Klay like if we're going to be the case, I'm going to be the old guy. In a fucking Texas roadhouse restaurant that will fight you for your shitty opinion about Clayton Kershaw not being a hall of Famer because he doesn't have a ring. Like. I'll be those people that have that deserve to get beat up I think. I and I'm not at that point in my life I'm not saying I'm going to be able to kick your ass. I'm just saying we will fight. You will be forced to throw your at that point like if you're in your eighties I'm sure you'll just be like full-blown like biting people with your dentures. We're going yeah. There's no warning if I'm still around at eighty and we have a disagreement. Put Your. Put Your fucking adds up for. Good Luck Clayton. Yeah I think. You know people often ask us like who's the WHO's the white whale guests for starting nine and obviously the answer to that question is Barry Bonds. And but Clayton Kershaw. Like of course, Kershaw got offered to us tomorrow you're taking it, but I want that conversation to happen for the first time. Once once he wins the big one like I want like if Clayton Kershaw is gonNA come on this podcast, I want the whole truth and nothing but the truth I give me the full scope I don't want the end of that conversation being like well, best of luck we hope you. We hope you do it like we wanted to like I want to get in his brain about what it was like to finally do it. And that's why when he revealed last year for the first time ever. That he's aware of the stigma that follows him. In the postseason when he acknowledged that. That was like breaking third wall yeah. Like. Because those are questions you just don't ask Clayton Kershaw maybe those are things you talk about. topically without involving him. And if he enters the room, you change the subject. and. That's out of respect for him. Because you know that he doesn't. Dictate and determine it. All right. But you also know that he may be not. You know he he didn't help himself a ton with some of those outings but. When he let us know that he's acknowledged that there's sure nothing much to say about it until it gets done. That's why I don't WanNa talk to Clayton Kershaw Intel it gets done until it's achieved because I want him to be able to comfortably share. Those emotions comfortably talk about what it's like to be lauded as the greatest living pitcher potentially of our lifetime generation when you invert lander or throw in the same category as guys like Colfax and. I I need to know these things, those answers because you being open and truthful about that. Can really shape the way a lot of people who might be on the fence about you. Think about you from here. And put in perspective. So if you've thought that he's just this nice guy who rose with the punches abominable I think that there's a little fuck you and. For Clayton, Kershaw that people don't don't really understand lives and to the degree in which it lives because you're talking about a guy who will just mini snap and rip ahead off. For going. In to bat in the third inning right sprays a fastball. Nowhere near Home Plate and you would think he just watched his entire family get kidnapped in front of him like he's losing his mind. It's one. Oh. Your teams up by six you're. Not His way. Also. Just. I. Just looked I was like. Who Reps? Who Reps Kershaw because? I feel like we you need to start greasing the skids for that conversation just in case the dodgers do when it all he's he's with optimized with Excel Sports. Also before we move on from this series. Lance mccullers game to. You. Say let's just say you'd better bring it in game two because if you don't want. Because if you don't. Oh on on what I was thinking about something else when I was I was thinking about WHO Made I didn't see You see how did in We move on. I think you're thinking to CBD I. Think that's what you were thinking of. Yeah. Because there's there's Times I get a little excited. Just, gotTa. Take it down range. Sometimes it's my mouth that gets inflamed. Most of the time, it is my aching joints because I'm a fucking crippled at thirty eight years old jared my body is crippled decrepit. Now that wrong would be crippled but when you're thirty eight. In your arm hurts. In your body hurts it feels like you just got into a fucking car wreck thirty eight that is not a thirty. 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I we are here with Mike Saroka of the Atlanta braves is this is this your second or third time second to second time with both you guys We do that rock paper scissors. We did I took the AL on that but the L.. So I I mean let's start there because. I mean, you're obviously watching these other players come across my dashboard and I lost thirty straight so hot it make you feel to know that I was that bad and you still lost. No you were on a win streak when I got you I know when they are getting released you're you're taking you're taking als left and right but I know when when I got you, you were hot I was red hot I ran into a hot hitter at the wrong time. I hauled off thirteen th straight at the end there. So we had you on that was the All Star Game Twenty nineteen. We're talking to you about like the the ice therapy that you do and I was like well, Dallas Dallas. Stepped in at the end there he was like I will personally fund a dunk tank that has ice water in it. Loser has to go in the dunk tank. So that's that's where you're at but you're also a little bit puzzled when I said part of the deal is I wanNA signed by ten of Your Dad. Yeah, we'll get that. We'll get that for for sure. Yeah. Go Round here in the studio. But I mean I feel like you know since the injury not many people baseball fans braves fans haven't heard from you. So how are you feeling first of all? How's the? How's the Rehab going where we at right now and all that I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Thank you. I'm Kinda. I mean just aggressively hitting the milestones as they come You know this, this rehab isn't as arduous and it isn't as low as a lot of other ones. You know ACL Tommy, John like that. You're GONNA, have a lot of plots does take a long time to hit. You know it's GonNa get really repetitive. But for me other than basically the first four weeks of being immobilizing the cast after that it's pretty well, there's new stuff every week or two. kind of new things to hit and right now I mean I'm I'm out of the boot Yeah I'm hobbling around in my shoes. But again, I mean strength is coming back pretty quickly which I've been excited about it's encouraging and that is I mean the last thing come back as range of motion, and then once when Steph falls back over at should be game. So for for the folks who I know are asking this question because I thought the same thing if you've seen forrest gump, he got shot in the ASS Achilles, those those injuries or long ways away from each other but they're similar. was there any free ice cream bought like what happened if you're laid up like is there would you get any treats? you know actually I did I got the Of Cookies and ice cream put on my doorstep by What I found out later was the company Atlanta but they were just random cookies. I couldn't I couldn't eat them. because I I didn't know they just showed up on my doorstep and You know where do I go with this? So right I wish looking back on it. I wish I'd eaten and they look pretty good. Yeah. So like when the injury happens like I feel like that's one of those injuries where the athlete just knows like was that the same for you where like you hear a pop, you feel a pop and you're like fuck like that it is what it is like I know that this isn't like a tweak and I'm going to be making my neck start. Yeah. Yeah, I mean. I don't know exactly what I heard but it was a very similar sound too. If the ball hits your foot on a comebacker. Yeah. You know you get that kind of that the that smack? Yeah like, yeah. It the I some people said, they heard it on the live feed, but I'm not sure I I. I don't know if I even listen to the live feed over again outside of the you know. Like forrest gump you said get shot in and that's basically. You, see I turn back to look like why did Dan's we just kicked me. which is happening health. Where where's he going here and and? As soon as I turned around and nobody was there, I knew exactly what it was, which is I I didn't waste any time on. A bench get off the ice. While the bodies warm get it off. So you actually look as as obviously shitty that is you were in a unique position because there are some guys in your spot have experienced something similar to this and just knowing what the starting Pitcher Brotherhood is like with the Pitcher Brotherhood is like you were able to reach out to some guys who who had gone through that and were you able to make contact with Ueno out of wainwright a guy who suffer to be the same injury obviously doing something different coming out. Of the box but those are, that's that same first movement that same first step that you guys are making and I think Zach Britton as well. So were you able to we're able to tap into these guys in and just kind of prep yourself for what that road ahead was like does your dude who's very mentally strong very mentally tough. So you were prepared for that, but we're never really prepared to that shit right there's only so many fucking ice baths you can jump into before you are asking questions. Yeah no I mean I. It's literally. said. When when that happened, you always kinda out there expecting that little things are going to pop up you know always is expected to be something like your hips back shoulder elbow because it makes sense to you. Know you need those every day but When that one happened it was a little strange and immediately it was okay with what we looking at timetable and Yeah. I had guys reached out I had I had wainwright reaching out it might have been that night honestly nice. my phone kind of blew up and I'm be talking to Britain and another one that I actually didn't know he did it until recently was Roman. Quinn. With the Phillies and I was actually Kind of encouraged to hear that he went through that because I absolutely flies i. mean he's eating out sacrificed funds again on the tenth thinning and it's like, all right. Well, you know clearly. There's an example of somebody that came through a really well and like talk when he gets all settled for the offseason kind of see what worked for him and how can get running sub fours down the down the first sal, how how figure out that this was or that it could be mechanical because I found that interesting that you instantly go to it was interesting to me but I was not surprised that you sort of instantly go. To evaluating your physical position, how what position your body's in mechanical adjustments you talk about being quad dominant I myself with someone in that similar position. So what what was it for you that made? You think you know what? Maybe there's an area here that I can clean up or or did it kind of makes sense when you went back and started looking at things going? Oh, see well, maybe that's where a breakdown could possibly occur and it did. Yeah The. So really you know anytime you get hurt you're always immediately your mind looking for places to Kinda. Goto why did this happen? not excuses but essentially, what's the reasoning because you're you're sitting there wondering how it could happen especially something and that was doing good at the time that just went bang pretty So. Yeah. It's Kinda just one of those things where are you look at general anatomy to start and like you said being qua dominant I think that came from playing hockey You know you're pushing and you're always sitting in ankle doors affliction and then once I got in the weight room, I started working on Komo -bility to be able to better better form not even Scott more weight or anything it was just. You know help that out and to be honest with you it's always been a bad habit of mine to be quad dominant on the mound. 'cause you're essentially pushing their wait. A different direction than you gotta turn it around So Essentially, I'd stretched out and been putting it at enraged for so long to where I you know kind of got to the point where it didn't want to hang on anymore not too dissimilar from somebody Ucla, their elbow you know they push it so far before it's actually ready you know you get kids seventeen year olds throwing a hundred miles an hour and Just not ready to do that. So yeah. I will say one of the one of the Nice things to hear they said, it's pretty typical for it to be powerful guys with the first step. So I was like. All right. Here. Better. Yeah. That makes me feel better. So I guess now I'm curious like what your like mental time line was like. So it happens you know that something's wrong. You mentioned like, Oh, I thought Dan's be kicked me. He's not there you get into the clubhouse. It's probably pretty quick that they're able to diagnose what happened. So was there a moment of like there's obviously frustration but are you are you angry in that moment or is it just one of those things like stuff like this happens and it's completely out of my control like there's you know there's nothing I can do about it now. So let's just start the Rehab Day. One. Yeah, it's about I think I told. Flowers. And their trainer as they were hauling me down the stairs I. Think told them what I did. I. Think like you said You knew right away and then. as soon as I got on a training table, I flipped over. And I I felt behind my heel there and there's just nothing there there Bush. Yeah and so I knew exactly what happened in the two doctors that were there at the time kind of like, okay we'll hold on hold on. The let's try and actually ultrasound see what's going on I was like I gone. It's. There did you feel the little nine Yeah it was. Yeah. It wasn't actually too bad. It was kind of dangling there but. WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO The The thing was to in a moment. You just WanNa know. What's what's my timetable? What is it and Immediately, everybody's trying to find out different things you know. Anthopoulos down kind of figuring out what things look like immediately 'cause he's gotTa make moves and You know I just want somebody to tell me how long I'm GONNA be out for right. When I heard that it was typically somewhere in the six to eight months. Range for baseball as actually pretty. Pretty Courage to when something like that happens. Sometimes, it's a little more. You. Know you're thinking like my goodness I just blew out A. Tendon. I'm looking at a year year and a half right? Thankfully, the Tilles quite. So multi-player ours what does And when you're laid up like that. Are you the type of guy where like. It pains you still watch braves games because it's like shit I still want to be out there or you still watching every single game every single pitch type deal. I gotTA BE HONEST WITH YOU I've. Watch, as much as. You said it's one of those things that I obviously, playoff games. Yeah. Every pitch through that games on I'm in. Those are fun to watch but I I do think that there is a certain level of difficulty. In kind of watching it unfold knowing that. You know you're just not there at that point because ultimately she wanted to compete and. you know for me to and I. I've said this multiple times and I'm not that huge of a sports fan in the sense as I am or just wanted to play it. You know I obviously grew up a fan and Calgary but they never. You know. Watching sports never kinda consumed my life the same way playing it did. competing whether it's myself for other people and and that's kind of where I fell into. So not being able to do something like that focus just a little bit. Now I'm competing with myself against. thera- bands on my captain China. At a little resistance every time I do him a little things like that my mind kind of shifts to but I watching these guys in what they're doing right now how much fun they're having? It makes it a lot easier to watch to. makes it a lot easier to you know kind of put yourself in that situation to kind of remove yourself from what's happening now. And speaking to the plan that they had. You had a lot of fun last year we met up with you at the All Star Game Pretty Decent first-half obviously, pretty strong second half is well going into that offseason knowing what you had in front of you a great opportunity to really plant your flag and you guys you saw that you see like like you pointed out kind of team you have right now. So headed into that offseason. We have no idea that Kobe's is looming around the corner. What we're things that you were excited to attack you being guy who is going to look at what you did. Well, what you didn't do well and try to build on that. What was your game plan heading into two thousand twenty thinking that Shit's going to be normal we're going to be able to play one, sixty two. These are the goals that I got set. Yeah made it like you said. It was really a blurred because for most of that. even basically up till the All star game probably was just kind of putting one foot print of the other. kind of taking one start at the time sure you know I was coming off an injury that Spring and basically wanting to be just cement myself in the rotation period and understand that I'm getting team chance to win and I you know you get into the off-season you get a chance to look back at at. At things that happened the way things unfolded and outing in the playoffs, which is probably the highlight that year and. I knew my battle was going to be. Keeping expectations. You know Tim Brown. Shirts yeah. Temperate expectations and you know that's something I I've kind of got a chance to talk. About while he's been rehabbing here with me in Atlanta You know it's tough once you get up there because I think we set high expectations they know everybody all the fans and the team. Once they see that you can do that. They WanNa see it over and over and over again, which is reasonable we're professionals we should be able to. Understand that we can replicate it and that that's the goal So. You know. The. Little things like he I go out there opening day this year. Awesome. Really Mom Self Queen got good work injure the quarantine I felt great You know immediately trying to do too much 'cause I got the guy next to me and degrom and he's he's out there sitting one hundred miles an hour. you know he he's added more to his fastball and I'm. Go on. Civil. I'm trying to trying to keep up and you know the little things like that where you look at. I mean, really he's the Golden Standard Pitching beaver an and colour right there with them buzzer. You look you watch in pitching. It's kind of like A. All right. So. That's so so take us through that feeling right there then right opening day. And it's you and I don't want to call it your measuring stick. But as far as I think any young righty in the game is concerned you see sort of dominance that degrom has exuded over the game of baseball recently and I think any reasonable competitor looks at that and says I want to shove it up people's as like that. So now here you are squaring off against that dude like there's there's gotta be some because we know you're not facing him you're facing the lineup, but there is a presence there right? You're you're taking that same rubber you're digging in that same hole you know who you're going against what was that like? Yeah I if. It's completely different. It really isn't and you know for me growing up. Or watching him he was the gold standard when I was coming to the minor leagues and just get that he was he was the guy for me to watch and Yeah. He's still is amazing. What what he's been able to do for so many years but the from. I, guess it was the year after he won his first Siam there. So I, guess, last year was I. Kinda season where you watched him in here like. Yep that's I mean. It's a hundred miles an hour with command with the flight or with the change of I. He knows where allow gone he lives on the edge is I mean he's a, he's a pitcher, is a pitcher with a ninety, four mile slider and it play. But you know I even last year once I remember. Kinda going out and warm ups felt good and I said you know what are the odds 'cause? I knew Ronald to that time had been raking. What are the odds? My first pitch is harder than grams for pitch today and he threw a first pitch slider like ninety three. I went out first pitch ninety two and I was like. You know this guy just threw a first pitch slider harder than my fastball off Kinda. Everybody kind of has that moment I'm sure you did too where you look out. And you pride yourself on kind of the guy for so long and then. You get out there and you look over and you're like. Guys just better than me wrong. For for me, it was it was it wasn't even a older dude. It was a young dude happened very quickly and Gio. Gonzalez Brett Anderson Trevor Kahlil Hill like all these young dudes and these are these are puppies Mike when they come up to the big leagues with me right puppies and Brett Anderson is blowing a hundred miles an hour. Was Really, oh. Yeah Buddy like. To hit CG shut piece his rookie year. Remember that I was there d. nine hundred. Or not sitting he's he's touching ninety nine and I'm going. I got what the no remember him have till. Yes. No chance. Wow I. don't even remember that. Oh. Yeah. Just bucket ninety, seven mile an hour bowling ball's gio eighty, six, mile an hour snapdragon before they were sexy like it was. That's exactly what I do like you became very apparent. You ordway below average. Yeah. So so I want to know because you you get named the opening day starter and that's a huge honor and You're on your on a staff with some guys like Max freed is fucking nasty and I want to know the moment that you have that conversation with snow like, Hey, you're our guy opening day the balls yours like what's that conversation like? Yeah he I mean it was kind of like you can see in the work to do all the math. You see all the you know you line it up but I I didn't know until well into summer camps or are are returned to play You know we didn't get to that point spring training where they actually told but you get it out and you basically, I mean you. You assume these things but as came and found me in the weight room I, saw him I the braves pulled out the way to the very end. But you can see how this long haul and so I saw him walking up the entire hallway. When I was like Oh you come and go to the equipment room training room you can come to see me and. Sure enough he walks all the way down and I I mean it just stopped me and said, Hey, during opening day ready Yep. All right. Let's go. Down that was that was pretty cool like you said, opening days kind of one of those things where as a pitcher. Growing up, you're watching all the good pitching matchups. You're saying Argh, I WANNA watch this game this game this game because you see the best of the best. You're like you're a humble guy, but you can tell that there's a confidence there that you know how good you are. So when he tells you, the ball is yours on opening day like are you trying not to have like a Taylor swift moment act shocked winning the award even though she knows that she's the bathroom it's like Oh my God thank you so much. I can't believe it or are you just like? All Right? Thank you are you behind the door losing your mind? That's what I was doing, right? Yeah, and I will be honest with you. It was the number two reaction. You. Know it was. All right. You know I've been kind of thinking about that moment about that I did the same way you think about the first educate you for especially the playoffs. Like that just kind of like all right opening day you see the fly over you see now them I pitch, go So I tell you to hear those words though was pretty cool and I'm obviously something I've Never GonNa Forget it's a much better story if you were walking down the hallway at him locked eyes with him and stopped him at arm's length and just said it. The balls. Mind thing. I you know I will admit I've I've not hurting for some confidence, but that's A little over the line. We'll get a little bit we'll get. So like. In this conversation by you talk about. You know. It's when you're watching the Atlanta braves like you're watching these playoff games you talk being a competitor so, has it been easier for you to watch the braves in the playoffs? Being a competitor but being like well, they haven't lost a game yet like I'm sure it would probably kill you more. They were struggling a little bit or the pitching was struggling pitching's been phenomenal for the braves. Does it take a little bit of the edge off knowing like well, they're getting the job done. But if they were struggling in the pitching department, it probably would have an effective shit I wish I was out there I'm sure you still wish you were out there but does it ease it a little bit? Yeah for sure. I mean, it's it's definitely it's fun to watch especially because the three guys that have started games are guys that have spent on time with Um you know freed ever since I got drafted he was Tommy John Rehab right when I got drafted and UCLA got the normal. But there in la La all the way up you know and then and obviously the next year got to know him through camps Kyle you're after that. Same sort of thing and You know to see the battles each one of them have gone through to get to this point I think in the special part for anybody that knows him you know everybody that knows him knows that they've been through their up and down even even though it might have been in the minor leagues where it might not have been under the is much you know where they've been and what they're doing. Now especially I mean they, they're writing histories what they're doing. you know obviously they have. A good challenge with La but I think they're they're ready obviously watching them and watching where they're confident. Is As you know competitors what did year and a shutdown season, he was able to replicate. you know, and then what Ian was able to coming up in his debut shaking off three one changeups against the Yankees and the first. Debut, just like. that's beautiful and. what Kyle did the turn around to it was awesome it for the fun part of. Where that's going to be. In years to come and competing with them because I think that's where let's get the best out of yourself well, that that's that's interesting. You make that comment because look we're happy for them. We're happy for them jared, and I personally bummed for you but we we've had that conversation. Knowing what you are watching these dudes do right now you cannot tell me you're not sitting there going. Oh and if I was only there. I would be slinging up with these dudes right now walking into L. A. Kick in that fucking door down like it's hours like that that has got to be a motivation of sorts not what you've been able to do when you're healthy on the field what these guys are doing right now, and as you said, it's a glimpse into that future. So there's gotta be some you got to let us know there's gotta be some fire in there. That's burning just some some fuck you in their Satan. was on this mound with these dudes it'd be. It'd be a whole different ball of wax. A ton Talk about. Almost every day I how bad he wanted to be out there this year and religious just kind of a chain of unfortunate things for both of us it's Tom's Be Lying. If I said any anything else right you know there's a reason that. A lot of the best pitchers in our game are surrounded by a good rotation because you know it makes it compete for it I don't think any of US care who's The one guy as long as you know, if you have four or five in rotation active, even three three or four five. I mean, you're laughing you're literally just like I said, you're saying whatever you can do new better and you know you're making it a kind of a personal competition and that's lot of the best competitors made it like that and. You. There's like the last dance documentary with Jordan You know it was competition among among teammates that that really drove him to. So there's nothing wrong with that. We all we all love each other and we're all get along but you know that's part of what? It means to pick each other up his teammates and be able to kind of. Follow suit up for the last guy so we'll pass launch. Being on a team that has now won three consecutive division titles. Do you like the expanded postseason where there sixteen teams and the now you have like the wild card round like I think it was more cut and dry in the national league. It's like all right. The the dodgers are GonNa take care of the brewers pretty quick and they did But in the American league, it's like the one was the raise and in the. Eight was the Blue Jays very good team. So it's like a as as a team that is locked in on winning the division again, and you can draw a team that can potentially knock you off in the wildcard round. Do you do you like the format? Do you welcome the challenge or is it something where it's like we could probably do it less playoff teams. I think there's a happy medium You know I, I think we can all kind of agree that a lot of wonky stuff happened mainly because at the sixty games. Fifty Games someone could ride a hot. Streak Burgled Street You know we all saw the nationals what they did last year after their slow start sensitive was the same sixty games started with last year and. You look at that lineup you look at that rotation you know they just weren't clicking at the right time and you know even having seen them at the end of the year you know you give them an extra forty games. There's a good chance. They make a push for the playoffs and and are in it like they were last year and openly want right. So it's Kinda one of those things where you do see the benefit of having having more games than regular season. and you know if I, I gotTa said if you could find kind of happy medium because I think when the sixteen team playoff kind of takes away from owning the division, you know I think winning the division last two years which you've done and at that time division, a division of a supposed to be really really close all the way to the end kind of takes away the the. Kind of the Gloria Nap. I do however like three series a little better than just the one and done even though it's a crazy game. That's an awesome game I think the three. Little. More play with You know anything crazy. That could happen. So Yeah, it's. Been, fun it's been fun to watch and also do like the fact that you know any team the at the time can can take it may take momentum and run with it. So there's pauses both but I think there's probably a happy medium in there with you know maybe twelve teams you might be might be a little better. You're a you are. You're you've gotta calm quiet STOIC competence about you. You can laugh a joke you have a good time. I don't know if you saw this I'm sure you did. Dodgers padres Bruce. Roles on the mound Fernando he's at the dish, right? HOMER GETS BROUGHT BACK BELLY GOES it'll be gets it, and her all sides throws glove in like the fourth row. His hat and it's just a yard sale like I said Like. Obviously. He doesn't know if he's going to be done or not. He's just excited in the moment But what was your initial thought when you see when you see that happening like we are you like what the fuck is going on? Are you are you? Do you understand you can understand it just what was your knee jerk reaction. Yeah I mean actually let's take it back to the pitch I. Okay. I one of the most fun things I get to do is pitch call with the pitcher. Yes. even with their stuff I forget about myself I. Forget about what I would do my. He do He put one hundred he put his best ball basically past top keys in a good spot and it was Kinda you beat them in that spot. and. It's not getting better. You know not typically do you throw the same pitch twice trying nail it again to any hitter let alone teeth and. I knew in the pitch came like don't try to do it again. Don't try it again because that piece I mean rightly I'm sure he's got a lot of pride and he gets beat once he's back again. and. So right when he's through it and that swing landed I was I was just I threw my hands up do it. Don't, and then he brought it back in that huge center field. That would be nice if vision. I. I saw the glove throw and then the hat. Frisbee. And I I always was laughing I arrived never seen that ever You know that's something that you see sometimes and I'm sure you guys have posted some crazy winter ball celebration You Know I. Remember watching my Buddy Josh Naylor. Stand at the point and watch from home run like this. And stuff like that happens down there and you know. Emotion. He'll be it. I. Don't think he plans to do that I. think it just Kinda just kind of happened and you let her and You went out again and pitch the next inning so. That's About it all. Looks try to explain to jared like the adrenaline dump that he probably experienced after losing his shit watching that catch get made like he wrote like nobody was on a more emotional rollercoaster then grabbed her all during that entire moment right off the bat you know what your heart feels. It's injured throat and see that ball get caught and like the monkees off your back your pumped and you go out and do something you frankly what he's ever done on on a major league baseball field, and then you gotta go back out and get those out to. That's really impressive. Yeah you like you said I mean I can't even do things like. I know myself I can't even get out there and give a big fist pump in the second inning because like you said, you get comfortable in that dump adrenaline. coming out in the third inning looking at the radar going Oh yeah. This. This is tough. So I make sure to keep those emotions in until I know done through my hundred ten pitch and it's like I know that's it. Fly sure. But yeah, that's impressive early. You seem like a guy that like if that happens to you like the gratitude all like celebration like a you know a lot of guys. This year have taken their liberties to celebrate like a Machado like if that happens to you that doesn't bug you at all. If there's somebody celebrates on the other side yeah. No I mean no longer it's not directed in a in a you know in a manner that's at US Percy. You know if Guy Hit two home run and then the plate and yells, and he's looking at me. That's a different story right but. Of them that one guttural Machado Jeez. They've all been Marcello your teammate in Joe Season hits a bomb. He's going up the first base line and stops to take a Selfie I mean like that that's the type of stuff that as fans we love it and it speaks more to your point where it's like that's a celebration where it's probably an inside joke with the guys in the clubhouse and you're celebrating with your teammates because you can't physically you can't reach out and give them a fist bump. So it's like I'm going to do something. That's GONNA. Make them laugh we're celebrating we're all having a good time. So there's definitely a fine line like what you're saying. I mean. I grew up looking at how how And I grew up. I didn't necessarily like it but when Alexander Ovechkin would pot one and he'd put his stick down in front of the. Opposition bench and with. You know pretend like it's really hot. Like that and shooting the dock and All the. Things that Obie celebration like you get that on the baseball field, there's going to be nine people that are that are getting drilled like probably above the shoulder like so bad. I mean, even hockey probably tried to take it out on Alex but he's a bear and it's Kinda like he probably he probably backed it up. So it's You know you got up to answer for for some times and I think that's okay too but yeah, you're right I mean. I think celebrations the right moments in intense situations like boy officer All, go as long as it's not directed at me 'cause then. Coming at you. Yeah, which is totally fair like I think like the only time Garrett Cole did it last night? He punches I forget who he punched out but then you like screams at the raise dugout like will now now it's with US versus like if you're going to punch someone like Bauer to the brewers, you struck out the side and he was screaming on the mom but it's like well, I mean you. Could frustrate yourself you punched out and you can kind of look at him and be like, all right take it easy. But at the same time like he's not doing it at, you is doing it in general. So yeah, there's definitely there's definitely a balance to it in in any of the baseball that you've watched this year. Do you have a favorite celebration that wasn't Marcello soon as Selfie celebration. I mean probably the Ronald home running the marlins now honestly the. Anytime Ronald, Reagan, the Marlins and. I know he's GonNa. Kinda. Go after it a little bit extra Guest tonight he plays the game heart and especially in that series in the history that they're sure I, mean he he turns it on and I think that's good. I think you said that's good for the game People WanNa see emotion people wanna see. Games I know coming from hockey. I can watch hockey without pure emotion but I know a lot of people that didn't get into it just love to watch. Guys. Get angry at each other getting a fight not saying we should make that baseball but. Dallas's idea. Yet Have we? Thought. We discussed this. Did we not discuss this? I did yes and I agree with you but I don't think that's going to happen. Yeah. I. Mean like if it let's say, let's say Ron, because we're talking to the kids been drilled twenty five, twenty, six times five of them or whatever have been by the marlins right? So there's there's obviously there's history there but let's just say. You run one in there on a guy and he doesn't like it. He's staring out at you and he's like you know what? I think I think Roka's coming at me on purpose and you're looking at him going does he think I did that on purpose? He does if he does right buck in here, I can meet him halfway. There we can. Talk about this. So so it's that thirty second window that I'm trying to give the hitter and the pitcher make your decision, make your move. If you WANNA come talk about it. Let's do it and then from there, pick your hat up, put your hat on. Get back on the mound you put your helmet on take dressed first base and we're done here. Yeah. Yeah I I think the only problem that I see with that is that in hockey pretty much have them some unwritten codes and stuff like that and what goes on in a fight you know nobody brings their stick in a fight no, you kinda worry. Leaves it that. You want to grow up kicking and then nothing like that yet and you know when the guy goes down, that's it. It's over absolutely. Literally. Those rules little literally adoptive hockey rules like if you can get a Jersey over the guys that maybe go for it I don't know if you WanNa go that route I'd probably be looking to make contact ball the only the only problem with that is in in hockey it's like these fights are all arms like they're on skates they can't be putting any legs into it like the time that Ortiz charged amount against the Orioles and took us. Right yeah. He took a swing at Kevin Gregg that if he landed his fucking head would have been in the thirtieth row like some of these guys like they. They don't skip leg day in Major. League Baseball. So I don't know I feel like we'd probably see like two or three fights sanctioned fights and major league baseball, and then they'd be like well, we got two dead bodies. So we I guess we're GonNa have to bang man. I. Remember, you remember of Kyle Farnsworth Wright seen video dial Farnsworth picking up in spearing all God I forget his name was just dropped it and like right like after you plant him into the ground you just get up and you stand over me like are are regarding we're done I don't need to punch you need to kick you to where we're good. Yeah. Yeah and I'll clarify to any other players out there. I'm not looking for five. We're just. Talking about emotion here. If, it comes by organically and you know I'm not like. Kinda hard to change the rules and say, okay, just go fight but you know. It happens and Things, things are always going to be that way between competitors and if you get away to express that and. Hang through the media. I think even even better because it kind of helps to that you know. That code and and the Players Association, and what we all feel together you know kinda going to be some rules written with us and. That hockey that hockey Brotherhood that hockey code I can fully appreciate and fully respect because I know some guys that have played the game and like I just I get it. I can feel it from them and we talk about that. So that's I think you make a great point when you say that that that's that's something to remember that that does help the policing of the game on the ice and within the League itself and I think baseball could benefit from shit like that because it doesn't necessarily happen. Across the league anymore like that you know that that mutual respect I'd like to see that grow a little more. I. Agree I agree and I I can't speak too much about it because I don't think I've Kinda earned the. earned. The right to talk about all that stuff yet. But I think like you said being able to handle on the field I, think that's something that all players can can get behind something that. We all want and and we all think that it would kind benefit everybody involved. The the sample size obviously was a small one. But you know you talk about like adrenaline and looking up at the rate are gone when you're out there. How much did no fans impact you on the mound this year. not too much. I mean I, think in the moment. It's it's pretty similar. I mean it doesn't really matter live BP than You know I do wonder about some guys who have spent their entire careers in front of forty thousand people you know think about. What Kershaw did this year I've. Been in nothing but a pack dodger stadium for so many years died I mean that's really impressive me because you you do learn to feed off adrenaline you do learn to get up on the days when you just don't quite have it I think a lot of US watching it and when you're Kinda. And the game's going on but. You're not There is a buzz that you just don't quite feel and and I think. You know a lot of us always say we know we play for the fans and everything but I it's you're kind of point. when you don't have anybody in the stadium yelling and cheering on whatever side you're on you know you really do see this game is for the fans and we are out there to bring forty five thousand people to their feet. get the standing ovation. Get to get the people going nuts you know. So when grabher all throws his love into the fourth row, somebody's there to catch it and You know little things like that I think you know it's GonNa be awesome. When when people do I can't wait I mean it's it's crazy to think like that. We haven't been to a Ballpark for a big league game in over a year now like that's such a bizarre feeling. But. The Games are still going on the braves are in the National League Championship series. So I'm GonNa give you a fill in the blank right here. If the braves advanced to the world series against the dodgers, it'll be because blank. we worked as a unit again instead, we're firing on all cylinders it'll be because. We didn't let any soft ones in. We took every at bat every pitch to the end and I think that's what we do best and. I think that that will give us our best chance to be a very, very solid team on the other side who could be. The X factor. Somebody that. Has always been there that maybe people haven't noticed this person's. Continuous production whether it's in the stack column that we can acknowledge or not. This guy shows up and does his job. This will really help who who could be that X. Factor. I immediately, because he was the factor in the left to serious is. Yes. Thank you. Not to take away from anything rose. Arenas. Because I've been incredible but you look across and Dr knows done very, very similar things. to watch him, do you get it all year to not like? He just had a good three games They do three or four districts, only sixty games but. you know he just keeps his thing and cavs somebody like that I'm not sure exactly where he is in the lineup currently but. When you have. Basically, nine that's you gotta worry about and nine attitude damage and I don't know if you wear he wasn't six six powder at the time. Yes. believe. So yeah. That's that's tough. 'cause then you gotTa, you gotTa, you gotTA piss to Ronald Freddie as they're not. Ozzy I mean, then you're looking at all Riley at the bottom of your order bragged could hit thirty thirty, forty home runs in a big league season. Then? You're just. So I think Dr Not Bridge, that gap between between those top three you. Be and it'll there I mean I think that's it doesn't. Give you any breathing room yeah and so I've been tweeting out like braves stats from like a pitching standpoint for the postseason. One Yarra for the postseason and then obviously you've got people chirping being like, well, it was the reds in the MARLINS and like they're not of the top run-scoring offenses and Major League Baseball. Do you think that people are sleeping on how good the braves pitching staff is because you're not there and Hamill's isn't there and the Guy Fulton, which isn't there. you know maybe a little bit I. Think a lot of people probably didn't watch the. Games. I. You can say what you want about the other lineup, but if you watch those games and you watch. Mail you know when phrase on with that curve ball fastball and the slider now I change of now just added a change. So you know, and then you look at how nails Ian been with his change at the bottom of the zone and then I'll be adjustments. Kyle's made to really be a forfeiture as well. I I think. Yeah. I do think anybody in watching will understand that. They're able to do the same thing against the much more potent lineup and I'll be excited to wash that last thing I have for you is You're young stud and I know that you pay attention to you. You understand the landscape around you but you've also had things that you've been paying attention to yourself disipline Rehab. But as you watch this postseason unfold, who is another young stud whether it's at the plate, an arm on the mound that you've just been excited to watch that you enjoy watching. I mean it's probably the same person everybody else and Watch him a little bit last year kind of understand that he is the real deal and it's tough east. He I. Know I know people blowing up on twitter saying How much of a freak this guy and I'm GONNA see replays in dodging my tag. Planning back into first for the rest of my career, which is all right because I'm not. Even bear crazy boot. and the stuff that he does. you know speed power and literally much he's must watch when you watch him I think every young kid wanting to be a shortstop in this game is looking to talk to you and saying. Everything You know he loves the game he loves playing competing and he's he's the guy that's going to be so much fun to watch for a long time. Love that answer. He's I. I I came up with a plan for him to become the face of baseball because you already has every other ingredient we need to get celebrity. Like once he has a celebrity girlfriend that he can crossover. So I suggested Ariana Grande. Day. And I feel like once we get there now our cooking with gas. So, the final question that we usually asked, we asked you because you're a two-time guests. So D- do you have a dog? I do not know I've actually unfortunately allergic to most why? I know it's tough but maybe maybe one day I'm sure we'll have some sort of dog I. I. Do Love Dogs just can't. Can't we. I believe Scottish terriers, hypoallergenic Do. Not yet is that. MIGHT BE Scottish terrier I'm sure there's there's more than a few but you know we'll wait we'll I'm sure we'll have a family dog one day, but that's not the plan for for a while so so it's a two-time guests on starting nine they're eligible for the starting nine dog calendar so you have you have some time before you can you can get a dog and then become eligible But. There's also a such thing as the starting nine rub which you got two thousand nineteen. And now I'm assuming that you're going to get the starting nine rub this time around for rest and recovery. So we wish you the best of luck with your recovery. We can't wait to see you back on the mound again, and we're looking forward to a nice little length the Atlanta Braves postseason run October. Meet you. Thank you got so much for having me on authorities. Blast. Thank you, brother. two-time Gas Mike. SAROKA. Timer I fucking love that guy. He is. He's the perfect mix of like old school new school like he just he basically was like if you wanna bath and black backflip like I think it's funny and talking about the celebration but he's like well, you look at me then I will. Say that. It's it's the perfect combination of like, let the kids play. But don't. Be a disrespectful shit. Well and I was going to say like for this generally is the best way to do it. Sure well, I think I, think multi multi from Detroit. Right. From Roy played hockey and and baseball. and stroke is like that perfect hybrid of hockey player mentality. Hockey player like, yeah. Down for whatever let's fucking go and also like the surrealness of a picture of a guy who is fine. Tuning his craft and you blend all that together and you get mike stroke of my rats. That's what you get. Just. Oh man there's been so many situations this postseason that like I'm just I know it sounds weird. I'm just I'm thankful the Red Sox were so bad this year because. I'm thinking of this new format. It's the first year of it. If the Red Sox were one seed and they had to play the fucking bluejays. A good bluejays team fucking loss. It'd be like Oh my God I would lose my mind and then if I were a braves fan. Having having the team that they have this, you're going to the. They won they won the division two years in a row. They got eliminated in the division series two years ago, and now they finally there it seems like everything is clicking and they're in the. But it's like. Well, we don't ever fucking opening day starter and we had Cole Hamels a depth perspective because now it's like you're playing bestest seven. No days off and I mean we have these players under contract it's just they're not able to go like that would frustrate me to no end after after the journey that. Group this core has been on We talked about this before we you know I've I've spoken. We actually just put the graphic out on the starting nine instagram. Because a CO card where I said don't you of get the sense that this braves team is well rounded enough to it. I'm not saying beat the dodgers, but at least give them a fucking series I mean they haven't lost that game yet neither of the brace neither of the braves and it's not like you. Will. Let's let's rewind. You're right. The raves haven't lost a game yet. But they've been winning those games in a very different fashion. Than anybody else in the post yeah. They're just not letting the opponents score. Yeah. Like. Saad ones, but but the the counter, and then we talked about this Arocca. The counter to that is that the marlins and the reds were not exactly elite offensive teams. That's fine. That's the I'm I'm we're all aware of that. Still the big leagues you still have to get all of those outs and to do it in a row. The way that they were doing at one point, four, five bucket games have been shutouts dude come on in one of those shots research. shutouts thirteen innings. That's thirty six scoreless inning dowse now. One of those shot at thirteen innings. Oh. Yes. There you go. Pretty. Forty for yes. Would you not do you have the balls Dallas do you have the balls to pick the braves solid shut? No no no. To pick the braves in the series. Do you have the jails to do this or are you just fucking? Pussy. You you. You WanNa know what you want to know. What kind of gives me the balls to was if if it were to be something Can lead you. Kenley Jansen. Would allow me to say you know what? They're not going to be able to fly can hide him down over and they're going to try. You think. So but when they yeah and when they try. Can. The braves take advantage and. Part of me wants to say I mean they'd live apart they Kenley Jansen has been living up in the zone with that eighty, nine mile, an hour slop and. That's that's a Kunia territory that is Zuni territory and that's Freddy Freeman territory. So adult sleep and look there's a reason and I'm sure I'm I'm going to have I want to have this cut. But I asked Sirocco. Who He felt. His ex factor was. Darn. And Don't you know and that right there. That is massive. Like because if that, if that guy can continue to do what he's done, homers doubles in big spot the big spots. Right that's somebody that you weren't necessarily factor into fill way right I. Don't think that many people have him as like hey, at least now you do of course now you do but going into the post season, did you paint him as a guy where it's like? Well, if we get d'arno swing and then look the fuck account. nope. But that's that's why as soon as he started on his tear, that's why I was like, Dude, this is the best. This is the best dude on the braves, purely because of what had already unfolded on amount and knowing that he plays a major major role in that. But now he's getting it done at the plate as well. So collectively who was impacting the game on a greater level for the Atlanta braves at that moment in time for me, it was a very easy nobody it's Travis. I mean he was the. He was the momentum hammer of the postseason to this point like there were a obviously you have to go immediately to the pitching the pitching has been dominant. But in the moments we swanson to Dan's be has been a lightning rod for the braves and the postseason. But like the moments that Dr no has had have been like art even if this team doesn't win a world series like that's going to be part of the postseason highlight reel forever like those, those are like the Holy Shit moments. So I'm excited, I'm excited for that series I think it's going to be a series I really do and when I sit down. To Watch that series which begins tonight. I'm going to be sitting there with my fucking ten boneless piece wings and my curly fries and my chocolate Mousse cake from hooters in Saugus. Are you going to be wearing a kung fu? 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I know you've been waiting for that. Use the Promo Code Stool for ten dollars off any order over thirty dollars again that is Promo. Code Stool online or in the hooters APP. For Ten dollars off any order over thirty dollars. We did. Kinda we've touched on the dodgers we touched on the braves a little bit, but let's let's let's do some more touching. Shall WE DALLAS BECAUSE GAME? One of the National League Championship series is tonight eight P M eastern no you're on the west coast. That's a that's I am. So fucking riber is it is Walker. Bueller. Max Freed. Yeah game one set in the stage. Couple of fucking drooling aces up in this bitch. Let's wild. So, I gotta ask you right off the bat. Max Freed ain't ain't looks so good in his last postseason starts it's an aberration I'm with you. Does he shake it does he shake it? Yes. So what are we looking at for a line tonight? Max. Oh. Look it's not going to be an easy task and when we talk about shake, it were probably talking about not going out and replicating the last outing, right? Yes. That's what we're staying away from what was it for innings, four runs or something like that. Wasn't good. So, yeah, I would like to see. I think we get? I think can we get five does where I'm looking at? Maybe five, five and two. Is. Okay at this on your walks. To walks how many punches six Five six. Six Five, two, five, five innings, five innings to runs five. Five two. Two two fucker. You like Walker? Bueller as well because they piggyback Dustin May last time now it looks like if you're in a best of seven decimates getting start, you're not going to have the luxury of going to May. Out of the pen in a best of seven and less and less Dustin may goes like to. Maybe, even if it's like a bullpen day type scenario and then he has a start where he goes like four or five. Somewhere down the line, I think. aureus. I don't know if this is even is this he wanNA say as we've been on the PODCAST, they named him as starter in one of these games I could be wrong. Okay. I would say because we'll all say what I'm going to say because I don't know I don't know if that's true or not. Maybe Jay, he'll be able to tell us. If Dustin may is a guy that they're giving the start to. Excuse me later in the series. He's probably not a guy that they wanNA run out there. To get looks early on. So I, would see A. Potential for OREOS TO START THE GAME Give. You two three whatever piggy back and then give it to Bueller because Bueller and the finger issue. Right the hotspot data's what's kind of prevented him from getting any sort of link outing going is. Being able to control that blister. So. If you're not going to start the game, but you wanted to get deep into it. Do. We get there I. Think it's Aureus starting the game because. If it's between orientation may for a Their own start. It's probably May. It's so hard to pick in this match up here. And the and the one thing that you know you have to think about is. If. Starting that lefty against the braves. Loaded up right handed. Well then Walker bueller comes in and He's he's really sitting pretty. Yeah. Who Do you? Who Do you like? Who Do you like in this match up? In Game One. Walker bugler Max freed starting nine alum versus starting nine alum. Buehler was done. The D like Max freed is a bounceback guy 'cause I do i. Do and. Like. because. You run the risk of being the astle who doesn't pick the dodgers the year they were absolutely I'm not saying I'm just saying game one I don't want I'm not asking for the series. Let's Let's not let's not. Let's. Let's let's go game by game here. Let's every every time we meet up here. We'll reassess the situation. Let's just let's just talk. Am One who do you like an game one? Game One. Game when I think you do. Because I like the braves. I like the brazing game one. I I mean that lineup just Fox like. Other, there's you're not wrong. The braves lineup. Fox and. There is I guess the blister concerned with? Bueller. I don't think there's like a performance concern but like if there is the concern and you don't have Dustin made save the day because you need him to start so. We all know that like Blake Trenin is great out of the dodgers bullpen. McKinley. Janssen. Ain't. Joe Kelly he's effectively wild. Like I'm thinking like, where where are those outs coming from innings like six and seven like where those outs coming from and is that a window of time like innings five through seven where the dodgers offense can just kinda lay down a hammer that the dodgers can't recover from. Something like that I mean if that's if the if the braves are going to sneak away with with game one. I think it's either going to be jump on Bueller early in the first inning, and then you kind of just chip away and build on that as you go or they kinda run into some trouble in the middle innings there where they're able to squeak out a crooked number where you put up four or five in the sixth inning something like that. That's that's how I see it going if the braves are able to take aim one. Freed neutralizing Bellenger. Peterson. Seger. Trying to think who else left handed in that lineup. I said Muncie dyson nosy. Some months could very will not even be Atlanta. A love Muncie. I mean look. I WANNA. Say I WANNA see freed because I want to say him coming off that outing last time is the motivator. and. No better. No better place to put your nuts on the line here game one against the best team in baseball at this moment I don't think I don't think freed is built that way and I don't mean that as a negative like. If Garrett Cole gave up four runs five earned runs. Whatever it was free did is against the marlins like he's coming back thinking like I already had a game plan to shove but now I'm going to double shove because I want to avenge that last start I think freed built differently in that he just shakes that off and goes out there entrusts his stuff like I don't think that he's like fuck like I let the team down my last time out. So now make up for it and then something like I don't think he's built like that on. Just, he's got a closer mentality I. Think he's like you know what had happened whatever like I've been good all year. Just need to go out there and trust my stuff and and the results will be there because they have been every other time I've taken them on this year. And I. I'm speaking from a place of experience when I talk about going out and throwing. Well, and then you get your ass kicked. Coming off of the great outing? You go out and laid that egg. That great outing is not so far away and not so far down the line that you're like scraping and you're searching like what fucking happen Oh, my God I've been terrible for a month and it wasn't even that bad. No Right. Four runs, four hands and I. Mean some things probably could have went differently but. but yeah, I'm still writing with I'm still riding with the yes. It wasn't that bad. It's just that we've expected just sheer dominance for Max freed and keeping the ball in the yard, and that's kind of just been his mo all year. Yeah I. Get the Brazen Game One. Not Afraid to say it. And I won't. There's no shame in being wrong if I ended up being wrong but I will say. That I feel good about the pick, I, feel good about the pick. Do you have any other thoughts on game one tonight? No high scoring or low scoring affair. What do we get like? How do you see that playing out in terms of we've got to really good offenses, but it's also a really good pitching matchup. Yeah I don't know that anybody gets bludgeoned here but I I would say, I'm going to say five three. Five three. Five three dodgers. Okay said free gives up to bullpen best in baseball at this point comes in maybe another run. Okay. All. Right. Final thoughts final thoughts as. We see some more seasons come to an end since our last show, the Yankees being one of them. Were down to four teams. We're getting. We're getting towards the end here. Dallas. It's the it's. The. It's it's been a weird year. But Are. You are you is there one particular match we talked about Astros dodgers's is there one matchup? That you would love to see in the world series that isn't Astros dodgers like what would do it for you. We'll there's only one of their option. Yeah I mean like well, you could have unless you WANNA picked out one. So, what are you asking me if there's another matchup? That I would be more intrigued with other than a this. There's four options you can go. You can go dodgers, raise student the raise braves raised dodgers or Astros Braves Astros? Yes. Yeah I'm. I Yeah I I still think that the dodgers astros is the is the market is I mean it's just like they're. You can't have a twenty twenty shortened covert season with all the bullshit that lead the season, the back and forth shit talk in the Piss poor public imagery of billionaires and millionaires fighting all of that shoot. You can't have all that and then not have a grand finale hilling the villain from the season last year against the team who whether it was going to be a three, hundred, sixty, two game season or a two game season you felt like was going to be in the world series anyway you can't have those teams not playing each other at the end of it all. To put this shitty season Tibet, it would almost be poetic if after all this when you clearly have like a marquee grand finale world series like, Hey, here's. Here's a treat for all you guys that were patient with us during a the COVID and labor negotiations we're going to give you astros dodgers the rematch and we're going to give you the dodgers as the world series champions because that's poetic justice and everyone's going to be super happy. It's like the good guy winning in the main event at Wrestlemania, you're sending the crowd home happy and then we get braves raise. or or like I said, you get that or then you get told you know what we've had an break things are not living rate. The this entire bubble model has come crumbling down. We're GONNA have to can't. I think it would take something catastrophic for that to happen. But I mean. I. It's. Global Pandemic or what? I don't know how you infiltrate the bubble though like you would have to be like some rogue. Patient. Going around touching everything. You've just got to be an Instagram oh. INFILTRATE THE BUBBLE CHOO. Choo. Not, we'll see we'll be back on what they. Yes there's AJ. We'll have more games to react to. As as we start to see that that world series picture getting painted who's going to be there is going to be the dodgers. IS GOING GONNA be the? Braves? Well, the Astros meet them there again. Or will it be the race? We'll find out. See later this week.

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Enough Is Enough

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Enough Is Enough

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So for the Astros, another injury to overcome. They already are playing without Jose altuve and George Springer as they played their game against the cubs on Wednesday night. A really terrible moment. A foul ball, hit down the third base foul line Elnora hammers one foul to the stands left side. Look out. Nailed is a very scary thing own lamb. Oh oh, was a young a young fan. And, and it looked like the mother or the father grooming running that child up to the emergency area here in Houston. And, and I'm I'm sick to my stomach right now. Now, Albert L Maura junior is down on one knee and sobbing. I'm sick to my stomach after watching that. The head of a little girl that sound from the cubs radio network. Pat Hughes with that description near the cubs win the game two to one. But the greatest concern after the game was for the child hit by the foul ball, after that half inning in which L more reacted the way that he did he stopped by the stands to talk to security guard about what happened and he just broke down essentially was in the arms of the security guard sobbing. He spoke with reporters afterward and talked about how he locked eyes and the little girl after she was hit. So that's probably, what suck the most story. Life is a soon as I hit it the first person, I locked eyes on her. So. He talked about his emotions for the rest of that at bat. All my teammates, Joe everybody came out, and obviously tried to talk to me and. Obviously. Want that to happen unintended for that to happen, credit to, to Miley as well came to me and said, you know. Call me down the rest was kind of a blur, the rest of that bat. Connie finally came to my senses after the next half inning. When I when I went over to the stance. And he talked about that happening zone official, you know updates but. Something to the. I just couldn't hold it anymore. Man. Obviously, I, I had to try to keep my composure during that back when the half any was over, and she couldn't hold it anymore. He talked about getting updates about the little girl's status. I guess they're just own official things that I wish I could say, man, I wish I, I wish I could say more. I don't know. Just mean I'll be the first to know. But right now, just praying and I'm I'm speechless. I'm lost of words being a father two, boys. He's hoping that he can get to know the little girl, we'd go willing, I'll be able to have a relationship with this little girl for the rest of my life prayers right now. That's all I really control. And he has strong feelings about what needs to happen next right now. I'm obviously I wanna put them at around the whole stadium. And other players were talking about that after the game as well. Joe Madden the cubs manager talked about the situation. I just wanted to understand that listen, this is not under your control. There's nothing that you could have done about that differently, so no, please don't blame yourself. Of course it's an awful moment, but this game and it's out of your control. You just have to understand that part of the listen, I've kids, I've grandkids. It's just it's it's a real awful moment for a player. To go through something like that. Feel at all like. Airgun. Oh, of course it did. I mean right there. There's different things you're thinking about doing, but I knew he's going to be lost in that at bat and you know, Jason was impacted by watching whole thing. Also, too. We all were it's human moment. And I'm really actually part of the way reacted. The angels in the athletes played on Wednesday afternoon. It was a crazy game. The angels had a lead the evidence came back and then in the top of the eleventh, the angels, broke out for five Ron's Jonathan Luke ROY applied the coup, graph and the next pitch. Winnow pop into shallow center that's going to drive in a couple. More ones. One comes in. Second comes in and at first base with a two run single, they're really break this game open is Luke, ROY, and the angels are up twelve to seven Kerry Smith. Angels radio. AM eight thirty. The pirates beat the red seventy-two two. And of course Josh bell was involved. Here's the pitch in the air to left going back is Winker to the warning track approaching the wall, and it is an opposite field. Home run for Josh bell, three, run Dinger up bell ringer in Cincinnati number eighteen for bell. Give him fifty one ribbon. Is and give the pirates us seven nothing lead in the seventh in Cincinnati. Afrim sports radio, ninety three point seven the fan. Now after the game reds manager David bell vary of set when you Haney swore as the reds best player this season was hit by a pitch. And he had very stark words about what will happen next. We'll be talking about that with Keith law. The nationals beat the Braves fourteen to four breaking out with a big inning against Kevin gos-, man. Right. Marquess way back there toward the track looking up at its high off the wall that carems by this clear, the basis, they can run for a while. Skippy. A two run triple for red dome. Nationals lead at six to nothing. That from mass. In sports, the Indians beat the Red Sox fourteen two nine Greg Allen had a hand in that. Fair ball, down the right field line headed for the corner. That's going to bring over Miras, Jake Bowers racing in a third Sarvaas has come on home and going to third base is Greg Allen. The Indians have tripled twice here at Fenway in the first three innings. Matt Underwood on the Indians, television network and Carlos Santana had himself a day. Let's it fly and it's swung on hit the air toward the gap in left center, it's going to get down for a base hit. It'll go all the way to the wall. Plucky scores Lindores scores flying behind. Everybody is spur caddo to score what an eye for Sam Tanna in standing with a three run double, then the Indians blow it open and lead fourteen to six Tom Amilton getting fired up there because Santana already had a Homer. And he already had a triple, Josh now Andor stand yet, while yesterday you left the Red Sox out of your power ten because the of course. The night before they gave up what seven runs something like that. Some crazy number. And then they got blown out last night in ugly. Time for the Red Sox, very ugly. But as a Red Sox fan, the constellation prize is coming in here every morning and hearing Tom Hamilton, describe it, you know, if if your team has to lose you may as well have Tom Hamilton, making the calls the AKIs play the Padres Chris paddock on the mound for San Diego. A lot of anticipation for this game because paddock has been so good. But the Yankees jumped all over him too. The ball is high. It is far gone. Howdy. I like that. A leadoff home run for the may. You David John makes long gone. Hey homers in the love meal, seems and the Yankees take as fast one nothing lead is you can take the o-on, so on hitting the air to lessen appeal that time that is Spar has gone. Boy. His ones who Detroit. Actually the visitors bullpen. Voight is a joint so void and LeMay who go back toback belly to belly and the Yankee second to nothing lead. John sterling and Susan Waldman with those calls WFAN the Yankees are gonna win seven nothing on Twitter. Tweet it out those home runs. The response was well it's Yankee Stadium. The home runs or easy, there, those were bombs that they hit right off the start of that game against Chris paddock, the Phillies in the cardinals sniff, ilise, had a run parade swinging hydride listen appeal baiter going up to the wall. Deal. It's his hip for the year. Kyun run home run hit the Phillies afford upping, laying swinging to dry d center feel that. That. The seats. To the angle. Inside the one over for Gary another spot for the two to the total Kingery could hold run into scene. One village L. Joe Franco, the first business. Is he? Tobacco. But kill fuck drought gone. Twenty five days without a home run. Another run for the Phillies figure the air. It is now nine one Philadelphia. That's afri- sports radio ninety four WIP the Phillies win eleven to four friend Derek Gould who covers the cardinals for the Saint Louis post dispatch, basically described this as the bottom of the season moment, so far for the cardinals, and it will see how they respond to that the Rockies play the Diamondbacks. Brendan Rodgers rookie recently called up came through for Colorado. The school cut stone hits a two run single. Watches. Take a three two lead. Drew Goodman, AT and T sports net. Colorado wins five to four. Centerfield kane. The day game of the day without a doubt was in Los Angeles, the Mets playing against the dodgers. And it looked like early on the Mets were going to hold control this game. Here's the oh, one swing and try to laugh that my friend's birthday. Get outta here in a hurry into the lower left field. Stands right next to the bullpen. That's simple. Nineteen home runs. It's his second two run home. Run of his game. The Mets of God back on top five three. And how he rose referring to Pete Alonzo. Not only should be an all star, maybe rookie of the year, but he definitely should be in the homerun derby. So it looked like the Mets were in complete control this game. But in the bottom of the ninth inning, Edwin Diaz on the mound for the Mets the closer that they spent so heavily to get in the off season in the dodgers jumped all over them. A three two. The right center for your well hit on its way and gone. Home run for jock phen-. His sixty home run of the year and the dodgers edge a little bit closer. That's eight dodgers six and this one girl. All right, way back. Gone back to back home road. Burs Peterson now Muncie. And now a one run game. Charlie Steiner with those calls, AM five seventy sports and other runner got on base. And then that guy Cody Bellinger came to the plate China on its second winning run at the plate. His. Notice. And Belgium, and moved at third base in this happened who balls two strikes pitcher for Dugo why all left field. That's going to be plenty deep enough for Bellinger to tech and score. The game winning. Doger's with four the bottom half of the ninth come from behind and beat the Mets nine two eight. A brutal loss for the Mets in this game. We'll talk about what that means going forward, and perhaps that moment in Houston will lead to more change for major league baseball. Let's get to it. Jesse Rogers covers baseball four ESPN Chicago covers the cubs, and he was at the ballpark in Houston last night, and Jessie after the game is over. What was it like in the clubhouse? Well, not as bad as it could have been because I think, you know, news was starting to trickle out that there were sort of a positive vibe to what was was going on with the girl at the hospital. No one knows exactly the diagnosis or whatever you wanna call it right now. But you know I talked to sources at the stadium early in that game because it happened early or I should say, at least earlier in the game. And I was told sort of giving a positive feeling about what her condition was no people aren't necessarily authorized to speak about metal condi- medical conditions. But I think they wanted to at least let me know that people know you know, sort of a thumbs up. And by the time we got in that locker room I think, you know, Al more at heard this and other people as well. So it could have been a lot worse. Let's put it that way. I mean hearing out we're talking about having a relationship with the girl for the rest of his life. I don't think he would have been saying that if he had heard some negative negative things. Now, we have not heard anything of fischel about the girl's condition, but through sources I heard you. Positive thing. So it could have been worse than that locked room. Almar was obviously shaken some of the other players were as well. This is kind of weird and interesting BUSTER, count Hendrix, starting pitcher who threw an absolute gem last night, had no idea this had happened. He goes back up. I was like many pitchers. Do you between innings he knew there was a delay? He thought out Morgan had gotten hurt because he saw him more, you know, down on one knee now from a purely baseball standpoints, right, better. He didn't know he threw eight innings and gave up one run just a great performance. But that reminds you how lacked in these guys get even when he returned in the crowd was quiet and there was less excitement in the building, you know, less energy, I guess he didn't notice any of it. He's so locked into job and obviously players don't necessarily talk to the pitchers in between innings and so he didn't know till after the game. So he was surprised as anybody about what had happened. But obviously the concern turn to what do they do in the future now as long as this girl's okay, the next conversation is about the future, and that, that's where some of the conversation went in the clubhouse as well. And we'll continue today I felt like as I saw that play out and read all the reaction. This is going to be a turning point moment for baseball will lead to change with netting down to the foul lines. What do you think? Yeah, I tend to agree with you. And for me, this was incredibly either coincidental or ironic whatever you wanna call it. Let me tell you why the first two days of this game of this series. I'm sorry. And I we don't come down to Houston, very often. But the first two games of this series was a game of pinball. I mean, the ball was absolutely flying every everywhere it was the topic of conversation with Joe man in that very day before this happened I was down in the camera well for game to your down there often I'm. Down there once in a while for TV duties the ball was absolutely flying. I start whistle. Take a half swing hack at a ball that flew out to right field and it's not just the ballpark. It wasn't just the ballpark. It wasn't high fly balls that were going out David Bodey. Nice little player might be a starter. Some days quasi star. Mean he hit two balls that look, they, they were shot out of a cannon BUSTER, in the first two games of the series Joe Manatat about foul balls that similarly was shot out of a candidate went straight up almost hit the roof here at minimum eight part. So all of a sudden all that's going on. And then we see a foul ball that was well-struck but one that is, is, is hit with the balls that are being in plano. So it's well-struck in the first place. And then like everyone else I'm starting to believe that there's something going on with this. Maybe I'm late to the party, because I will tell you until this series it wasn't really on my mind that much, and then I too. Games the ball, just everywhere. So now I'm on or, and I think Jason Hayward said it right? I mean he's he said it, we're not the stadium police, but they've got to put some more netting around this. We know what Japan, there's more netting. This is not twenty thirty forty years ago. The ball is absolutely flying off the bat. Maybe it's because of the strength of, of the relievers, and this, you know, how hard they throw it. Maybe it's the strength of these players and the great conditions there in at the plate. But I also think there's something going with the ball. I think we all sort of see that. So, yes, I've come around to that thinking and this series really drove it home for me. Jesse thanks for doing this. You got it bustard. We'll talk soon. It's more than just a conversation. It's the weekly dish with Keith law baseball tonight. And so, keep law covers baseball free SPN, of course scouts for ESPN. This is a really important time for him. But today Keith we're going to talk about what happened in Houston last night. I felt like the, the moment that I saw BUSTER Posey, get run over at home plate that, that would be the moment that executives around baseball. It's okay that's enough. But now for the catcher collision things I felt the same way one chase utley slid into Ruben, too hot at second base in the playoffs in too hot. Add his leg, broken that you knew executives that winter, go okay enough is enough. And I feel like that's exactly what's going to happen after this little girl got hit last night. I mean, let's face it change probably should've happened before this. But you know what Chris Bryan and other players talked about after the game last night that they would like to see netting extended it to the foul lines. I think that's. Well, now that it will happen after you have a moment like that after the players, reacted the way that they did. What do you think? Yes. What should have happened a long time ago, we had a San Kelt last year I dodge your stadium. We've had plenty of incidence of people getting seriously injured, and we're aware that pitcher's throwing harder than ever. Hitters are stronger than ever, and therefore the foul balls flying into the stands are coming at as high of a loss ity as they ever have before. So if you had wanted to argue at I think it's foolish if you'd wanted argue at some point in the past. Well, it's not that serious of a problem, because foul, balls aren't coming in, at that high of loss while that's not even true anymore. I think any excuse that baseball had come up with to not do this, which, by the way, not even that expensive thing to solve and it doesn't affect the play of the game on the field, beginning excuses are, are long gone here. I. I mean, I talked about this for years, I think you have to, there's no reason they shouldn't have done this, like, like the examples you just gave people argued against them because it changed the way the game was played on the field. I didn't agree. But that's a real argument the argument and not put nets up is what exactly so fans don't get to keep some foul balls minutes. A ten dollar baseball. That's really not a good argument at all. You mentioned the woman who was killed at Dodger Stadium last year. Linda Goldblum Willie wind Bom, which is a great job as a producer for ESPN reached out to her daughter, Janna Goldblum Brody to get a common after what happened last night. Her response was it's unconscionable that fans are still getting hurt by hard hit foul. Balls in MLB is not increasing netting requirements even after foul ball caused a brain hemorrhage in my mom's death in August. It Dodger Stadium. We see not only the fans but the players are traumatized by the horn damage. This new set injury that happened today on my birthday. Maybe a message from my mom. Linda to speak out once again, and keep demanding more ballpark safety during the winter. The dodgers actually reached out to that family offered to honor Linda Goldblum at Dodger Stadium. And her husband Erwin Goldblum, turn that down his response to ABC news was, we don't need their sympathy. We want action if they agreed to make changes to improve safety for fans, then I'll go down there. And as I say, I think now they'll, they'll, they'll make changes. And I and, you know, you and I both don't want this to be an important reason, but we know it is in a legit society. Now that there's high awareness of this, and there's a lot of public discussion. It leaves teams in a much more vulnerable position when it comes to liability, and I think that's part of the reason why there's going to be changed, and at some point to and from what I understand in the last round of where they extended the netting beyond the dugouts rob Manfred is very outspoken and his feeling that they should. Do this. And it was the teams that were resistant on it where they were kinda pushing back and, and I think now as they did with the netting extending beyond the dugouts. I think the teams will will relent guess I, I agree. I had I said years ago, I'm far from the only one to say this, it would probably take someone getting killed for them to do this as it did hockey. Yes. Yes. Right, columbus. Right. Got it was long ago. But yes, they do remember that the absolute freak incident. I guess what I was wrong, as may be would take tiled getting killed for baseball to extend the netting. That's sad. But that does seem to be where we're at since we did have a fan get killed by foul ball last year. And they still didn't extend the netting any further. But others pointed out to they had that in Japan, the extended netting for a long time. It doesn't seem to have affected the popularity of the sport whatsoever. So I just I see. No good reason for baseball not to take action now. And there's the natural response you get from some folks on Twitter and social media, they'll respond well just pay attention to the game, put down your phone, and that's absurd. I can speak to that firsthand because I do you know work the sidelines on Sunday night, baseball, the last nine years and look major league baseball players are better equipped to deal with foul balls, and anyone and yet baseball saw fit to put protective ending in front of the dugouts because guys were getting hit for, you know players who are watching the game. Fully paying attention without phones. We're getting hit so baseball acted. And they should act on behalf of fans. Josh I, I always ask you to give us the perspective of fans here. What do you feel about this? There's, there's no argument against it. You know, like, like Keith said, Y so that people can catch more foul balls. Who cares? Really, who cares? That's that's the dumbest argument of ever heard. You gotta put netting up everywhere. You just have to do it enough. That's exactly right. And we'll be waiting today to hear for major league baseball with its response to what happened in Houston last night. And then, of course, we wait word about the little girl and hope that she's okay? Keith's Mondays your Christmas. It's baseball's amateur draft starts, then this is the day been working toward all year. So as we get closer, give us your final mock draft your top five in the draft Orioles, royals White Sox Marlins in Tigers MAs. Quarter order. There you go. Keith caring was set for you. So I had a mock draft go up for a free SPN plus subscribers on Tuesday. I'm gonna do one more on draft day right in the mock I put up on Tuesday. So at Orioles, pick, I, I started taking Adly Richmond, catcher Morgan state kind of a consensus number one prospect in the draft. I will say even since then I have heard once again that they're seriously considering Cal first baseman Andrew Vaughn, who I think is the second best player in the draft class that maybe they'd cut a little bit of a deal with him so that they could get better players when they pick again at forty one forty two forty one something like that seventy one seventy seven they pick again, a few times, saving some money would have a real impact for them. I even had somebody told me yesterday, thought it was sixty forty they take Vaughn, and not rush men, which would be interesting. But I don't think it all the wrong choice, just interesting. Two is Kansas City. They're taking Bobby, what junior everyone says it's an absolute lock everyone in the industry. That is everyone. I asked. That's when I ask people with with teams. Hey, what do you think the top five top ten might be? Everyone has wit going second. Third is the White Sox. I had them taking Andrew von. If Richmond is there. They just take rush ruckman. I will say, I am probably least confident in that pick putting Vaughn there because Kenny Williams is extremely involved in their drafts this year, and he really likes CJ, a high school shortstop from Georgia, who's one of the fastest players in the entire draft class. It'd be a reach for me at three but I do know that they're very serious about him. Four is the Marlins. I think they would take JJ day from Vanderbilt if von and brush men are both off the board at this point. And don't think there's anybody else other than those three guys that they'd be considering five is Detroit. I think Andrew von stops there, if he's still on the board. That's his floor. Otherwise, I have them taking Riley, green highschool outfielder from outside, Orlando's one of the better pure bats in the draft class it within the last two days. I heard, though that nNcholas Dolo the lefty, from Texas Christian who is likely to be the first pitcher taken. I don't think he goes, any lower than seven to Cincinnati will Dolo to Detroit is also a real possibility that they may decide they don't want to go the highschool route. They don't wanna wait that long on a player. They could decide to shift and just focus on a college player. Vaughn is gone that would mean they'd take Dolo in not green, which would mean Greenwood, go, six to the Padres. So let me ask you this just theoretically conceptually. You mentioned Andrew, Colin and the possibility that he could go as high as one maybe three maybe four. Perhaps five. It's pretty rare. Yes, that a first baseman would be taken that high. Because generally speaking in a team seem to focus on guys in the middle of the field. How much for you, if you were running the draft room would that be a factor in your decision? And would you take him at number one? If you felt he was the best guy, I, I would take him at number one, I said, I have my on my big board. Just my actual ranking have Richmond, one fond to. But I said that the sort of cutline to the next year is after von, not after rush. It's not like Richmond is Bryce Harper, and there's nobody close to him. Well it turned out in the Bryce Harper draft. There were a couple of players pretty close to Machado and sale, same draft class. But at the time, Harper looked like he was the all world guy, and everyone else was a tier below to me. It's rush Mond and volunteer, one cut. And then you drop the tier two, which has guys like wit and like green and blue day in it. I so. Yeah, I would consider Vaughn if I could get Vaughan. For half a million less that meant I'd get a better player at pick forty one. Then yeah, I would absolately do it because I do think is a really exceptional hitter. I do think there's still some risk with rush Mond just around the hit tool. He's going to be Richmond is a big leaguer Skippy, a longtime big leaguer because he's a really good catcher across the board with power that plays in the big. He stays healthy place in the big leagues for ten years easy. But Vaughn has a chance to be a real star because of the kind of hitter. He is. It's a great swing. He's got a really good approach. He's got some power. I think you could look at him. And think there's some of that to reach Hoskins Paul Goldschmidt type of right handed hitter. It's not allowed. It's not flashy. But the swing works. The plate discipline is so good. And there's enough strength to hit for power. I think I if the Orioles felt like he's their guy, my understanding is his the analytics departments. At least that alone, hep all seem to have fallen at the top of the board. I didn't take him be very confident. You're getting at least in above average regular a good chance for a star and then turn around. And there's good high pitching in this draft class. It's one of the only things that's good in this draft class. And with your heels having the pick picket, top of every round plus one extra pick right after the second round they could do something. They could go get some extra talent just you'll bike Elias, who's now the GM the Orioles when he was scouting director with Houston. The Astros to Carlos Correa who is the number two player on a lot of boards. Byron Buxton was number one. They took career with the first overall pick went well under slot. So they could get minutes mccullers junior with a subsequent pick. And that's obviously worked out. Fantastic Lee for the Astros. I'm sure that's in a license mind as he approaches the draft, I had one evaluated tell me the draft. And they you speaking, this generally not talking about bona. Particularly said take offers baseman with the first or second pick is light taking a running back in the NFL draft that you're not taking advantage of. Of the value in that position because, you know, it's easier to find first basement. So we'll, we'll just wait and see where they go. I two more quick ones for you before you go. David bell manager of the Cincinnati Reds was furious yesterday after a you Wayne Suarez was hit by a pitch, as you know, the Pittsburgh, Pirates typically lead the league in hit batsmen or they're the top of the league and they make other teams really mad with this, and David bell spoke, very bluntly after the pitcher involved in that situation was not ojected give listen to David bell the sound from our friend Bill brink at the Pittsburgh post gazette. What we know though. I can't pretend to. Clearly. We're not gonna do protected. So we got to whatever we can't think matters. Unfortunate that we're not. We can't personal protection. Yes. So the sound wasn't great what he basically said was that. It's of course, they do it intentionally talking about generally said it's unfortunate that we're not going to get protected and we'll do what we have to do very rare. You hear major League Managers say that out loud, essentially, implying that they're going to retaliate and Keith through the years, and we've had this discussion about retaliation. I've had really even keeled major League Managers and players say to me about this topic. Look, if you feel like you're guys are protected. Sometimes you have to do that, to remind the other team that they have to be more careful. What do you think? Yeah. I, I don't like that solution not to criticize the reds. I understand their position here to me the solution being in this comes up there. We have an example last night in the royals White Sox game where royals starter. Sparkman threw a pitch that got away, but was probably aimed a little bit too close to Tim Anderson. It ends up hitting Anderson in the helmet and the umpire Jack sparked been immediately that to me is probably that was because there's history between those two clubs right between two because of Brad Keller. There's history between the royals and the White Sox. So you have to even if you think you had probably wasn't intentional. You know what it's too close? We have to take action here teams have been complaining about the pirates doing this for a long time. I cannot speak to whether that is real whether there is intent. But certainly, if you feel like this is happening, I would rather see this adjudicated by the league not by okay? Well, they're throwing. Get our guys. Now, we got us through with their guys 'cause back to that seems to be the theme of our talk today, someone's gonna end up getting seriously hurt someone's going to end up breaking more than a hand and I really don't wanna see that. And I don't think that, that helps anyone then we end, frankly, I don't think it's gonna very good product. When teams are throwing each other inventions or clearing? I mean to me, that's I'm not even joking if I'm sitting at a game, and the benches clear are reach in my bag take out a book. I got five minutes to read here. I don't have any interest in that. I don't think it's good for the fans. And I can't someone's gonna get seriously injured. I'd rather see the league tried to take some action on that. And I like David Bellotti. Join a nice job. But I don't think that those comments are particularly helpful, he, it's sort of like you said, the quiet part out loud there. And I hope that the league gets in touch with probably both teams in this case and says knock it off. Yup. And I bet you David bell would be who I want say, I agree with you. We don't want this to happen. Forty five seconds, left Mets blow big lead last night, a game under five hundred and I wrote a column today, basically saying if they don't turn it around that the Mets is one executive said to me should pull a prelature. We so AJ probably go all in two thousand fifteen it didn't work out. And then he turned around, and sold off a bunch of guys got prospects, got better. I think that's absolutely what the Mets should do. If they're not gonna win this year trade. Edwin Wendy as trade, Noah Syndergaard trade Zack Wheeler, replenish, the farm system. I don't think they'll do that. But I think it would be the right thing to do. What do you think? Yes, I agree. Well, that's what I thought they should've done in the first place. Right. When they were looking at candidates. They had Heim bloom from Tampa Bay and was the perfect person to execute a plan like that. He wanted to do that. Brody said, no I can win now. So they hired body. And, you know, I think some of their free agent signings. Even been really good. Their traits have largely been disastrous, especially the trade for Noah Diaz to give up their talk to prospects. Both guys doing. Really well, in the Baroness system. The trade looks even worse today. I think I just cannot imagine them changing course akin imagine ownership saying, we're we're we're still trying to win were ready to rebuild now. When six seven months ago they weren't even willing to entertain the possibility of rebuilt. So I agree with you, but I just cannot imagine them doing that. Not now maybe they do it in the off season. But I can't imagine them doing now. No win now plans only work if ownership is ready to spend big resources in prospects dollars down. You know what the Mets haven't given any indication that they're willing to spend a lot of money. So they shouldn't have gone down this path in the first place key. Thanks for doing this have fun on your Christmas. You have my pleasure. We'll be back in a moment with Sarah Lang's, but I wanna tell you about light stream or your credit card bills, keeping you up at night interest rates in the double digits. Be smart and pay off your credit card balances with a credit card consolidation loan from light stream get a fixed rate is lowest five point nine five percent APR with auto pay. You could save thousands and interests. Get along from five thousand dollars to one hundred thousand dollars in there are no fees, you can even get your money as soon as the day you apply. Plus, light stream is a division of SunTrust Bank. One of the nation's largest financial institutions. See you can have complete peace of mind what to save even more. 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He could perhaps trait Noah Syndergaard. He could trade Zack Wheeler, but starts to replenish, the farm system that they kind of stripped down and making the trades during the winter. What do you think of that concept? Yeah. I mean, I think I don't know. I think that's one of the things that you almost wish you saw more of, you know, like, why don't team do this quite as much we know why it's because those players are probably the one to bring the gate attendance and get fans in the seats. And that's obviously a consideration, but I think it makes a lot of sense. I mean we've talked a couple of times already this season about how this year for the Mets was kind of like a quick fix. Like it was a win now. And when the wind now isn't working, you should probably give up on it, and try to win in three years. And I think that makes a lot. A lot of sense and it sort of reminds me of the conversation we had right around deadline day last year about like, you know, the national traded Bryce Harper. And we know they didn't obviously nobody on the mess quite has that same cachet but you know, looking at it right now and seeing what he's done and everything, like I'm still wishing that the national straight of Bryce Harper for their own good. And I think that it would be great to see the Mets make a conscious decision like that. I don't know if it'll happen. But I think that that's definitely the right team building move, for sure. And I wish we. Yeah, it would would have a lot of value this summer. With all the contenders you were looking for help at the back end of the bullpen. All right. Let's play the numbers game number three. Number three is nineteen. So speaking of better news for the mess pita Lonzo his eighteenth and nineteenth. Home runs last night off of Walker. Bueller that number nineteen ties in with Mark Maguire in nineteen eighty seven for the most home runs by a rookie before June first in a season and his nineteen home runs are also tied for the second most by any Mets rookie in a full season with ice Davis and Ron Swoboda. The only one with more. We've talked about this already was Darryl Strawberry was twenty six and nineteen eighty three. So barring something catastrophic, it appears that Alonzo will smash that record foreshore number two. Number two, is seven that's how many home runs. Austin Riley already had in just fourteen career games. His seven home runs are tied for the second most by any player has first fourteen games with Trevor stories eight leading the way. But story had multi home run games in there. Something Riley hasn't done yet. That makes Austin Riley the first player to Homer in seven of his first fourteen career games. Let's fifty percent of his game and speaking of percentages. He has a sixty three point nine percent hard hit rate this year. That's more than half of his bad balls have been at least ninety five miles an hour harder is a Fossey. That's second highest in the major since his may fifteenth debut among players as at least twenty five of balls. Not bam. Number one, number one is thirteen. So Kris Bryant his thirteenth home. Run of the season last night against the Astros last year. Kris Bryant hit thirteen home runs for the year. So he has thirteen home runs in fifty two games this season after hitting thirteen in a hundred two games last year. It's the second fewest team dams. It's taken him to reach thirteen home runs in any season of his career last night was games fifty four for the cubs in twenty sixteen. He hit number thirteen in game number fifty two twenty sixteen obviously turned out pretty well for him. He hit thirty nine home runs and one NL MVP and twelve. Oh, thirteen home runs have come since he's switched the acts bat, and obviously, you guys talked about that on your broadcast. What was that last week the week before and that's been used for him? Obviously. Yeah. Also Riley, had such big impact that I couldn't believe that the other night that the Saint Louis cardinals basically waved the white flag, and they were like we're not pitching to that kid, we'd rather walk him and pitch to Brian McCann that tells you how good he's been early on, Sarah. Thanks for doing this ain't too much about their, we'll be back in a moment with Michael k, but I, I want to tell you about DSL listen up guys if you're bigger tall, you know what a pain it is to find clothes that fit. So a trip to DSL needs to be on your to do list at D, XL big and tall is all they need. 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We were talking about this and getting ready for Sunday night baseball. If you were to list, your unexpected Yankee heroes in order, number one, number two number three. Number four. Give me your top heroes the that have emerged during all these injuries for the Yankees. Well, I guess the number one guy would be GIO or shell. Nobody. Nobody saw this coming. He wasn't even on the forty man roster. So they had a maneuver to get him on all the injury started to hit, you know, they didn't go out and get Manny Machado. 'cause they figured that, and to haul was going to be fine at third for the next decade. And then he gets a serious shoulder injury. So they keep trying different things there. And they finally bring up her shelhah and he's been amazing. So that'd be number one number two. I don't know how much of a surprise it could be when you're batting tied list and a gold glove winner, but DJ LeMay has been so much more than advertised. And maybe we didn't get a chance to see him every day because he played in Colorado. He's an exquisite baseball player. He knows exactly how to play the game, and he's not the type of guy that you can shift on. Have to play him straight up because he uses foul line to align. He's that good of a player and defensively. He's, he's outstanding. So that'd be number two and number three. All we'd be Domingo's Vermont. He has somehow, lessen the loss of Luis Severino was supposed to be your ace. And I just look at him on, I can't believe he has nine wins. And I know that the have always liked him ever since they got him from the Marlins, but they certainly I don't think could have been vision. Nine in one the fact that he could take the sting out of out of losing the ace of your team will not pitching an inning for you all year. In fact, I pitched an inning for you in spring training just tells you how dynamic he's been. So those would be my top three. I think. And now as they begin to get some guys back TD, regardless seems to be getting closer, Aaron judge is making progress Luis Severino played catch yesterday. I know that from watching you guys yesterday on the yes network, who what's your sense of who there is the most uncertainty about wh in terms of coming back from injuries as we move forward, I would say it's probably Severino, because obviously had a shoulder issue before the latte issue cropped up. So they shut them down just to calm down the shoulder inflammation. And then the latte issue also made him shut down. So he's not feeling any pain right now. And yesterday what you saw was just simply throwing on flat ground. He's a long way away. And then you hope that he returns to the form that he had in the first half last year. I say that's a question Mark. I think they're betting on it. But I don't think they're betting the house on it, the most likely to come back. I I is d d that could probably be in Toronto next week when the Ke's finished the the four games. With the the Red Sox sometime in that series or either in Cleveland, and I think, after that, it would be Stanton, and then judge Stanton is making progress. They feel pretty good about where he's had it and judge, although he's progressing, I don't think is as close as Stanton. I don't so you could mix him Batanes us in there as well. I don't think he's real close, but, you know, it could be a month if everything goes, well, maybe three three weeks. Two-month. We got a great question for PK Steinberg who asked about DJ LeMay you and, and how good he's been so far. His question is are the Yankees facing difficult decision with some of their injured players come back or they just going to be wicked awesomely deep. What do you think? Well, unfortunately, you can only carry twenty five men, so they can't be that wickedly awesomely deep. And I think you BUSTER is that he's going to be the guy that they signed him to be he's gonna play thirty he's gonna play second. He's gonna play. I he's a D H A little, he's going to do everything he's going to be an everyday player without an everyday position. I think the guy that gets lost in the shuffle here. There's probably two they get lost in the shuffle. That would be Tiro Estrada who they love. I, I don't know how there's room on the roster for him. It'd be LeMay who, who would be that everyday guy. And although there's no sign yet of him coming back. I think the ankles would make have to make the hard decision and probably designate for Simon Choi to Lewinsky 'cause I I'm not quite sure how he fits. Especially with the fact that, you know, your major league roster is going to be loaded. And LeMay was that backup infielder, who's gonna play every day? So I think those are the guys are going to be left out in the cold, but Cairo strategist gets sent down to Scranton, and he's a phone call and a two hour ride away. It feels like to me, and I'm not as close to it as you are that there's been a special momentum build up from the success with all those guys being out. What do you think? It's magic. I, I know that such a weird week word, but I thought that at best BUSTER with all of the injuries ad because they weren't just injuries. They were injuries to significant people all-star superstars in some cases. And I said, why they could survive this until the guys get back in July. You survived you mean like maybe five hundred they'll be a pretty good shape. I never ever ever could have envisioned them thriving. And a lot of credit has to go to the Yankee front office and also bulldoze kept it together never ever showed any sweat, makes them play hard, every day, makes them believe that. They could win every day and this team the last month in the in the month of may BUSTER, has a feel to it like the nineteen ninety eight Yankees, and I'm not it's not nearly as good a team. But that team never thought it was out of it was shocked. Every time it lost came to the ballpark, every single day thinking they were going to win a game. And I get that same sense with this team. And this team's talent. It's not even close to that one, but they've got a little Mojo juju going, and I it's just been extraordinary really has. I think they're going to be trades made earlier this year because the July thirty first deadline is cemented. You can't make August deals and I think it's pretty obvious what the Yankees priority is going to be in trades, and that's going to be starting pitching. I'm gonna throw some names. It's you, when you tell me which ones jump out at you. Somebody you'd think that would be a good fit for the Yankees Trevor Bauer of the unions is going to be traded this, this summer. He struggled of late a six to one zero in may Madison, Bumgarner, Marcus Stroman Aaron Sanchez, Mike, minor, Matt Boyd. If the Tigers if. Those guys move food. Do you think is would be especially a good fit? I think in, you know, you've gotta take New York into account know, poem, I Paul O'Neill, and I were talking about this yesterday. They're to a really good that just don't make it here. You know, they get overwhelmed by you know the expectation not, not about the great Sonny gray just expectations where I it's not about going out and having fun of you. They although you want to, but you have to win. I mean, that's the whole deal. So I think a guy with a real, New York attitude got some swagger me would have to be reined in just a little bit would be Marcus Stroman. I think he would thrive here. The kids from Long Island is family lives here. He knows what it's all about. I think that, that would be a guy that, that I would be interested in, you know, I haven't Sanchez great stuff as well, and maybe on a little bit biased. You know, the eighties in San Francisco and I watched Madison Bumgarner and I've, I've always loved watching him pitch. And he didn't like the same guy and from everything I've heard since the Yankees are in San Francisco. He's really improved. But I don't think he's that same guy. Str-. Roman. You have for while you having to control. It's gonna take a lot to get them. But they have a relationship with the Blue Jays. They've made deals at the Blue Jays before. So I, I could see I could see Stroman. And also, I could see going this way to BUSTER their acquisition. Could be Luis Severino. They can look at it. If we can get Severino back and nobody July first whether or not he's going to be a good pitcher. Then that's our acquisition. And then the later acquisition would be Jordan Montgomery. So that's a young left with really well before Tommy, John surgery, those could be too outstanding pitchers that they get without giving up nothing. Michael, thanks for doing this. Yeah. I'll see the ballpark. All right. Buster, be good guy you tired of the run around, you know, going from store to store never finding your size. Here's a tip had DSL, the one-stop shop for men's big and tall clothing, period, and at DSL, you don't have to be all voiding toity have a personal stylist, there fit experts will help you find great styles. In your size? It couldn't be easier. So head to DSL dot com and check out a store near you, d excelled big and tall field for you. If DSL dot com. Bleacher tweets, rest of the Bleacher tweets BUSTER just between you and I and honorary co host for now. Rena rena. Banana, she says BUSTER with Trevor Bauer struggling as of late, who's your pick for the most eligible pitcher on the trade market? Perhaps Mike minor or Matthew Boyd. You know, I'm gonna go godless here I'm going to say Madison Bumgarner. Because he's the one guy who I think is absolutely gonna get traded Mike minors under contract for next year. Remember that Rangers open our new ballpark next spring. They're going to want to win next year. And I just wonder if the Rangers would ever be able to get what they would want in return in order to trade him, I feel like the same thing applies for the Tigers. So I'm gonna go gutless and say Madison Bumgarner. That's fine. You can be go with, by the way, Rena an inside joke here. If you do send BUSTER an eye hats with poison oak in them. You done you done get out. Rachel at south paw thirteen who's the current most intimidating manager in the game? Someone that would be like, if Nolan Ryan was a manager and Josh was an up low blow see I'm going to defer to you just because you're the one that gets intimidated by managers. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I know who would frighten you I don't know, any personally, which I guess it lends itself. We've had Bruce Bochy on the show. He's always been a really nice guy. But that voice, I know who would I know who would scare you who I know who would scare you. No doubt about it. Ned Joost like Moore stop net is Ned can be very blunt. He fell out of a tree in survive. Okay. Right. So. Yeah. Net all answered yet Yose would definitely scare Josh. What about Gabe Kappler? I know he's, he's like he's very soft spoken, and it's, it's a bogey type thing that you're talking about. He's like a nice guy. Right. He could. He could really what my you-know-what like take. Down. Okay. Finally, busted, we got this one from Jake aka Duff mic Divet or a kunia junior and Austin Riley, turning into the most fearsome young duo since the original bash brothers. I could also see jock Peterson and Bellinger, getting that description as well. What are your thoughts? Yeah. I would agree with that. There's a chance that can happen. You've heard Tipper Jones is the first to compare Riley detroi- gloss. And when I talk to Brian McCann veteran catcher over the weekend, he said, yeah, I heard that and I was watching BP. That's he's dead on so for years and years and years. You're going to have these two guys together. I would say we probably should slow a role little bit. Like he's been in the big leagues for less than a mile. Okay. Josh whatever. Geez. No. But all you like the parent who's coming in at the end. Shed that claim. Yeah. Rome last night. Sees also know. And I wasn't saying that to bash you though BUSTER, no pun intended, with, with the bash brothers thing. But. What, what about Koran L to, like you don't have to go that far back in the history books to talk about a scary young? Do let Jake in I live in the moment. Okay. Let us have recently by leave us alone. Her enough. The Bleacher tweets coming hashtag Bleacher tweets, and that's it for today. Nice busy show. 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Does missing out on Lindor actually help the Blue Jays? (Ep. 99)

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Does missing out on Lindor actually help the Blue Jays? (Ep. 99)

"Hello and welcome so ninety nine one thirty eight. I'm your host mark collie as always. I'm joined by pricing and jacob. How're you doing great. Thanks how are you. I'm not that her you jacob. Yeah we picked the wrong week to take a couple of extra days between recording. Because we recorded i guess our last podcast of twenty twenty was last tuesday and then we took like an extra four days back on schedule recording on saturday and so much has happened in the time since we last recorded we've had francisco lindores moved from cleveland to new york mets. We've had stroman The former blue jay get in on some of this drama. We've had a blue. Jay offer to george springer. We've had rumors about other teams trying to trade for one hundred kirk. We've had predictions from mlb dot com power rankings. All sorts of stuff have happened in the past week and a half since we last recorded. Let's start off with the biggest news of the week and a half Francisco lindor moving from cleveland to the new york mets. This is a guy who the blue jays were obviously interested in. We've talked about him a lot on this. Podcast has a year left on his contract. Apparently the blue jays made him a may made a big offer for him a competitive offer but Cleveland ended up deciding to go with the mets offer for him. He's on the move to the mets. A lot of people are frustrated. Because the blue jays inaction this offseason this just kind of compounds that feeling first off. How do you guys think this impacts the blue jays in their approach to the offseason. Because for me. I was never a big fan of acquiring window in the first place which we all know and frankly. I'm not really upset about this news. I don't think it's that big a deal. Because i think the blue jays honestly. I think it's a good thing for the blue jays. Because i think getting the mets to sign door or trade for lindores than probably i assume extending there obviously out in the market from a guy like maybe dj mayhew. The blue jays are in maybe dj. Or excuse me colton. Wong bluejays are on so i think it opens up doors for the blue jays and take some mets out of the market on. Geyser can ped- before and at the same time. It's kind of a relief for me. Because i didn't want them to get an indoor in the first place so personally for me. I'm actually pretty happy with this deal. In the fact that. I think it actually helps the blue jays guessing honestly. I'm i'm with you on that. I i've said this pretty much all off season that i really don't think the blue jays need francisco. Indoor i mean yes. There's the argument that he is a very good infielder right now and the blue jays could benefit from him. But when you look at their depth chart. I think the field is probably the last spot that i would really look to improve on and it's just overall i'm not overly upset. I mean some people are upset saying blues expecting to be very aggressive than they were targeting. The very good infielder good player that they said they were going to look at and then they don't get him but honestly i. It's not that big of a deal to me. I didn't think the blue jays needed him. And you know. I think one of the biggest things is that the blue jays One of the reasons. Why the why. Cleveland didn't take the blue jays offer is because it It contained more of a long term solution for them with primarily prospects whereas the the mets offered more of a a immediate return for them which i mean to be fair we. We don't really know who the blue jays offered by overall. I don't think that this was a huge thing that they should have done. You know getting upscale out of prospects for a good player. Obviously i think they would have signed him but still. It's not that big of a deal to me. i'd i'd really like. I said i like francisco endure but overall it's just he's not with the blue jays needed and like you said mark you know if the if the new york mets are focused on linden trying to extend him and do other things that does give the blue jays some leeway room to look into all these players that they the mets were also looking into now. They kind of a a position player that they've acquired that's going to take off. Take up a big amount of their time in other blue jays can say okay. Well we didn't get lindores. Go look for lemay or any other guy sold always just you know if you're somebody that wanted linda more than i can kind of understand why this is kind of an upsetting report overall. If you look at it from the perspective of the blue jays still have a good infield. And i think they will have a better infield that in terms of the players that they have. Now they're they're projected to do than what indoor would you so it's just it's overall. I think it is a it is. I am happy that didn't going acquire him. Yeah there's there's a lot going on with us We know. Yeah so. Mark and jacob youtube were for sure against this we. We've we've spent multiple times on this podcast discussed the pros and cons of this deal. And of course. I'll still admit it that i was one of the people who wanted this to happen or at least the jays to try and make this happen and it did happen but not for the jays happened for the mets and the mets ended up sending infielders himalayas or jim nez. Sorry if i pronounced that wrong. And ahmed rosario right hander. Josh wolff in an outfielder named isaiah green. So my first initial reaction. When i thought about this and knowing the blue jays farm system of how strong it is there was no question my mind that the jays could have given a given a better offer to them and from that reason i just. It was very hard to kind of what happened. I guess with the blue jays front but then the report came out yesterday revealing that the jays were actually the runners up for indoor and the problem with the jays offer. Compared to what the new york mets offered was just the jays offer was more centered around long term prospects while mets offer was more balanced between short term long term. So when you think about that. I guess came down to preference from the cleveland. A from cleveland and from that reason that is why they won't the mets offer so the other thing is you knew that the jays would kick tires at this and potentially make an offer. There's the connection with ross atkins. There's the connection with mark shapiro and it. Looks like they did and when it comes to it who knows what the offer was. We still don't know who was involved in it but this may go down for. I guess the benefit of the doubt or this might be a better outcome for the jays as we all know. The biggest problem with this trade was his contract and it came up with the potential of only having him for one year. Especially if you're going to give a massive part of your farm system which was the risk and when it looks like when you come at it from that standpoint it just it it almost feels more. It just feels easier that the mets are gonna make get this done in silent or that. They have more money on the table to do this. And for a j standpoint they just you know we know the history of the free agency. We know how hard it is to attract free agents to extend free agents and for those reasons alone markan jacob. That's obviously why you two were against this idea. It wasn't about the actual trade came with the long term effects of this the potential of only having him for a one year rental and losing him. And who knows who you give up. The lord's gurriel was thrown around. And i'm sure other pieces were thrown around. Alejandro kirk was mentioned a few times. And if you give up these players for only one year francisco indoor and in that year. Let's say you don't win anything that's just obviously a massive loss and probably mpu mistake that you made and it would take years. Take a few years to rebuild that farm system and that also just delays you and gives you a step back as an organization as prepared to compete again. So that's also. I look at it from the problem i have with this. It's not about the jays not getting him because at least they tried to get him which is fine and you knew that there was some sort of offer on the table you knew they were gonna be interested but the problem i have is just for some reason and mark. I'm sure you got the exact same thing as well as you jacob with your pages it just the fans. I'm surprised at how many fans actually wanted this to happen When i'm looking through my comments. I see multiple people saying how the front office well first of all. Everyone's against the office again so it went from against originally to signing review and saying trusting the process and our back to the narrative that this front office does nothing so the problem with that is just. It's weird how people already writing off the off season when multiple people are making are still making the point that these agents are still available and francisco. Indoor was not a free agent. He was a trade peace and he was somebody who was under contract for twenty twenty one which is even more weird because nobody has signed stole and everyone is still in the same position other than i guess teams like the padres and that's because those are the only two teams now who have made moves the padres we we spoke with all the moves they made The past couple of weeks they got darvish. They got blake. Snell and the mets have now gotten francis school indoor. They've got james mccann. Those are the only two teams that have made moves when you look at it at the end and people who are saying that This i guess ruins everything in the front office is doomed. The off season was a complete failure. Nothing has changed from the free agents. In terms of george springer digitally colon. The jayco busy all these names are still available and the jays are still are still in the same playing field as everybody else when it comes to that and they're still optimism for multiple market posted about ken rosenthal of the optimism. And the you know what he's even hearing that jays are still going to pull away with one of these top free agents if they're that motivated to do it and i just have a problem with fans already writing off the off season. I just don't believe they understand. Exactly what's going on wwe clearly. The james cat enough to give up for to get francisco indoor. They didn't they didn't get the well. The mets didn't take their offer. And you're stuck with potentially wanting to sign him for one year and knowing francisco indoor and just knowing the market here you just feel like with our luck in this market the history he was gonna go to free agency regardless and test out the market but him going to the mets completely changes. It's a complete different scenario. I think that there's a chance that he consigned long-term their avoid free agency. But that's just different and you can't compare the two ownership was steve cohen. Who's a billionaire. Who makes i believe it's around fourteen billion or something like that and compare to rogers ownership. It's just a different scenario. But when you look at it francisco indoors going to the mets. The mets have a lot of money to spend. And who knows what happens with them in the george springer sweepstakes if that may be takes them away from george springer a bit because now they have to pay for instance school indoor and this could be better and this could be good news for the jays this could be the domino effect that they needed to get things going to make one move going because right now from what we've been hearing it's going to be the blue jays. Where the mets. Who are going down for george springer. So if you take the mets the mets now focusing on paying school indoor. This is the perfect opportunity for the blue jays to come in and steal george springer maybe up an offer a little bit We know the asking prices around one hundred and fifty million but this is the perfect time for them in for fans who are already writing off the off season. I hate to say it. But you're absolutely crazy for thinking that this offseason was a failure with these players still on the market No pun intended. It's just it's it's a fact that everyone is still unsigned and they still have a chance to get these names. And we'll see what happens over the next of a few weeks. But i've got a feeling that this trade may have been what the jays needed for other teams to start getting things going now in the free agent front. Like you said i i. I'm trying to find the clip now. I can't track down. There was a clip of the gm. His name is jared porter. I'm talking about what their approach. Now after they've gone window or how they're going to be trying to improve the team from here and the way he made it sound when he was talking about center fielders is that they're not going to pursue a big name center fielder and i think the big names on the market right now or george springer j. j. that might be eh He said they're not going to pursue someone like that. He said it'd be fine if they didn't get someone who's playing every day if they didn't get a starter if they got you know kind of a a bench batter something that he was making it. Sound like the mets are no longer in the market for someone like george springer and if the mets are no longer in the market for someone like george springer that pretty much leaves just supply as we know we knew that the blue jays and The mets were the two finalists. So yeah i see this as a good thing. Because i think francisco indoor was not the guy to target and buy the mets taking off the market. It just makes the blue jays more viable option for all these other guys and even if know. We're trying to connect the dots with you know. Conspiracy theories about george springer. We can no flat right that. The mets are no longer interested in dj. Like that's obvious. Now they have an infielder. They've added a top tier infielder. They no longer need. Dj lemay you. So that makes the bluejays. One of the only suitors left for him. Of course along with the yankees. We've heard. The dodgers are interested in lemay hugh but overall. I think this is an overwhelming positive thing. Front bluejays pinpoint only really negative thing in my opinion from this deal. It's at the the the carlos carrasco part of the deal. The fact that you know. Cleveland also sent casco to the mets. And of course if you look at that deal it would be awesome for the blue jays to get a player. Not only a francisco indoors quality quality and caliber but also a player carlos carrasco. Because obviously they need help on the infield in the outfield and pitching to getting crafts. Go would fill. That need getting When door would fill the needs. That's one part. That's kind of like i wish to blue jays could've pulled the trigger. Not that they didn't pull the trigger because they made a very aggressive offer. But i wish that they had made maybe just a hair better than the mets and gone. But even then it's like i. I'm at peace with it because a you miss out on lindores woohoo. I thought was more of a burden than a asset. And you keep the flexibility open to really choose who you want the free agent market whether it's garrett richards weather it's Jayco drizzy you know. You have the space in the contract space in space on the roster to go out and get who you want instead of it being tied to deal honestly so that's the one negative but i. I don't think it's that big deal. Also we that is interesting. Is the fact that francisco indoor does only have such a short amount of time that he would probably be with the blue jays before he had to sign an extension or anything. Because one of the things that we've all said is if the blue jays are to acquire francisco indoor they to sign him to an extension because if you lose him after a year then is that worth it and i don't think it is so if they were to trade for him a couple of days ago that was on the roster i think right now would be the time that you have to sign to an extension or some type of deal because the last thing you want is to trade for him. Now wait till the end of the season and then you're you're basically stuck trying to acquire him again. I think right now would have to basically spend most of their time on francisco lindores so even like you said mark. This deal probably would have been more of a burden you know. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise. Bluejays obviously could benefit from francisco indoor but is it really worth it to sign him or trade for him potentially folks on signing him now or wait till next offseason because who knows what happens next off season you there could be a lot of different things going on so it's just overall it just the blue jays maybe and maybe this is a bit of a good thing happening for them not getting. Yeah and there's lots of pros and cons. Come with the steel. And i'm i'll i'll say it again. I was one of the. I was the only person out of all three of us. Who wanted this to happen or in favor of this to happen but the one thing that makes me at peace with it as well mark. I think that's perfect way to put it is that there's still names available. Not everyone is gone off the market. And if that's a different situation. Let's say george springer goes to the mets. Let's just say they go. Wherever digital may he goes back to new york and the jays masada lender then you're scrambling and the problem is you still can't even guarantee that the jay come away with all these names because there's a chance that they don't and then that's a different conversation that we'd have to save for another day but when it comes to it right now. The offseason is far from over these. These guys are still available. And i just. I have a hard time coming to terms with people writing off the offseason already. Just because for these reasons alone and it is a good thing because the mets now have to pay francisco indoor and if they if they still are that interested in george springer those are two guys where you're going to have to pay millions and millions of dollars george springer asking for one hundred and fifty million alone. You know francisco endure is going to be getting paid pretty much a lot more than that. So those are two big names that you have to put on your payroll right now. And for the mets. You don't know if that makes sense or not if you got this one player. So that's why it's a good thing and like or what we've been hearing is it's going to be going down to the blue jays with the matt's i'm sure there's still the possibility of a dark horse team coming into play. It be surprised if that's the case but that leaves the blue jays still on top of the list. As you know the jason shooters than people who have been interested in springer since the beginning of the offseason. And i just it gives them time to figure things out in terms of what he wants in his His term in a salary by you know francisco indoor came with the burden and he still is coming with the burden. The mets have to sign him but It sounds like he will likely sign an extension. But there's still lots of time for that to play out J. situation it would have gone a little bit differently and for people who are i don't want people to get mad too if the mets signing them long term because people need to realize that it would have been a different outcome with james or a different process than not saying he would have left him for agency but just knowing the way the market is in the history of this market he would have tested free agency that would have given a massive rhys to the blue. The jays would've had to prioritize on resigning him rather than upgrading. Other pieces on the team. And there's like an pretty much what i'm trying to say is. There's lots of lots of questions that come with him. But we know the player he has. No one's denying how good he is because he is a generational player he he's legit and he's come close to winning a world series but that's the problem that the contract unfortunately was the biggest problem here but it does sound like the gave an offer an you know. If if that's the case of dayton if the mets went the route of taking more of a or giving up more shirt short-term balancing short-term and long-term than the jays where i'm glad to j. stuck to their Just stuck to their plan and didn't adjust things and get that desperate for For francisco indoor knowing that these players are still in the market in terms of george springer. Usually you colton wong jacob And many others who they've shown interested in our interest in an also liam hendriks who visited the jays facility has been seen in florida so i'm glad that they're able to balance things out and focus on priorities in terms of the free agent market As we head into were in twenty twenty one now so spring training's only about a month away now from pitchers and catchers report a little over a month away And i guess we can wear. We're already talking about him so we might as well bring the the news of george springer Blue jays offering george springer deal. That's reportedly five years about one hundred fifteen million dollars when you compare that to what we know. But the mets offer which was apparently just short of one hundred fifty million dollars I like this is another thing to make me. Happy that they got francisco indoor because obviously if you're alleged assume let's just say the mets are hundred and forty five million dollars and the blue jays are one fifteen you know. That's a big difference in obviously springer's gonna take the one forty-five deal instead of the one fifteen so i don't think if this deal doesn't happen. I don't think the blue jays really have a chance of signing george springer but after imagine now that that deal for springer's off the table and i tracked down the remarks from The mets gm Jared porter who said centerfield is an area. We're going to focus on. But i don't think it has to come in the form of guy who's going to be out there for one hundred and fifty games so again. That sounds like to me that they are out on george springer. At least they're going to be a lot less aggressive than they have been on springer and to me that that makes it virtually guaranteed unless a you know. A dark horse team comes in that the blue jays are a very likely contenders for springer or they sign it so i think this is fantastic. News for the blue jays. But what are you guys. Make the news that the blue jays have offered george springer hundred and fifteen million dollars over five years. Because we know he's asking for a lot of money we know he's asking for one fifty. Plus some people have even set one seventy five million so obviously the blue jays are low. Ball him a little bit here. Do you think this is just kind of i offer and a lot of stages in negotiations or do you think they really just don't want to spend the money on this guy. I think is exactly what you said. That markets. I think it's just straight up. They're negotiating with them. And that's probably what's going to end up happing like you said the mets pretty much. You're not going to be overly aggressive with george springer. I think they're still gonna make some type of offer. But i highly doubt it's going to be. We need to sign this guy but what the blue jays are offering you said one hundred fifteen million. That's about twenty three million per season over five years. So if i'm george springer you know. I'm definitely going to negotiate that i mean any any normal person would but overall. I think that's probably not what he'll sign for. I predict. it'll probably be around the one thirty mark at the highest honestly. Maybe one twenty-one thirty something like that. But i do think one hundred and fifteen million is a is a little bit low from george stringers perspective. I'd the blue jays like that because you're getting a great player for relatively low amount of money but overall this is just it's a long negotiation process and it's going to end up being you know. I want this march i want. you know. we're only willing to pay you this much or maybe something like Backing was twenty six. If you remember edwin encarnacion wanted. I think it was one hundred million dollars but the blue jays only offered him eighty million however they offered him. I think it was a player option for next year. For twenty million so we would have gotten one hundred million anyways if i chose to to go forward with that player option so that that'll probably how or that could be something the blue jays do. Maybe they wanna get a little bit creative and say you know we're going to give you one hundred and fifty million over five years but compressed sixty sixth year or you know something like that and we can fit it into your near payroll over that time or like i said you know maybe they. I think they will go up in their price or if they are assigned but i do. Predictive leaders will sign him. But i think it will be a little bit more money. Just because francisco not francisco. George springer is like i said he's he's he's not dumb knows he that he wants money. He knows what he's worth so he's going to say. I want this amount of money in the blues. Say okay. We'll probably meet in the middle. Because i do think one hundred fifty million is a little bit too much. Just for george springer also we gotta realize that the blue jays right now have the money given that most of their key players are on rookie contracts. Are there under team. Control are not being paid a ton right now but in a couple of years time they will be paid a lot. And who knows you know. Maybe george springer only stay for five years. But if you choose to say re-sign whatever the blue jays choose in five years time they'll have a lot of our the have a lot less money in five years time just given the fact that everybody will start to come off their contracts and they'll start to demand more money as well so it's just. I think this is just a bit of a this normal negotiation. That i think is kind of going public. You know. I mean this happens all the time in pretty much all the sports that i watch you know teams offer this much in players. Say i want this much. And then they they somewhere or they meet somewhere. So it's it's probably just going to end up being like this until the blue jays or francisco. I don't cave in is the right word but somebody will say okay fine. Well we'll settle for this amount. I do think it will happen soon. Though i think like you said bracing pitchers and catchers report. Obviously that doesn't involve george springer but spring training and preparations for the season's gonna start soon. If you're george springer if you're going to sign with the blue jays are they going to canada. I don't know so. There's a lot of things that he's going to have to figaro on a personal level so the last thing he wants to say okay. We have two weeks to move here. Are you know do something like that. So i think it's just it's just negotiations. They're going to me. They're going to discuss some type of contract. Like i said i do think it will probably be around one twenty to thirty million but overall i think it is. It is interesting that the mets have basically said. You know we're not looking for a star player so i think that does mean the blue jays will get him given that you know they're probably like unless like you said bracing with a dark horse type situation someone says okay actual give you this much money. It'll probably just be the blue jays signing him. Which i think is a good thing but also i think it would be interesting to see what they do with their current fielders because as we know. Randall grischuk i think he will. It's pretty obvious he'd be the one that is gone. I don't think Tasker hernandez junior are going to be anything other than everyday player. So it'd be interesting to see how they figured out you know. Did they trade him or is he just the four th outfielder. I don't know but that legacy said definitely definitely it's going to be a situation. Where george springer says okay. No i want this much money and just say okay. Fine and then they they settle. And i think it will be a five year deal over around the one. Twenty-one thirty mark there's there's a lot to take away from this and going back to. I guess how mark introduced the topic of where it doesn't seem like george springer is something that the the mets are necessarily wanting as much as they did at first at first. But when you when you feel like the player that you think of now over. George springer for the mets. If they're talking about like this. It sounds more like a jackie bradley jr. type role rather than a george springer role if he is someone who is going to be cheaper so and who doesn't necessarily have to play every day and he just seems like a potential better fit than george springer but when there's a lot to take away from and it's it's classic negotiation one George springer hasn't had a high asking price. Of course the jobs are going to go under that mark and you know. I'm not certain that this thing will be settled before spring spring training. There's been you know especially over the past couple of years. The off season has for some reason got slower and slower. And i wouldn't be surprised one that if the dragged into at all we've seen players like this who've gotten gotten paid dragon to Spring training bryce harper signed really late. I think jd martinez. When he first came over to the red sox also signed pretty late. I think he signed almost a week in spring training so these players are starting to sign now closer to camp. But i'm not saying that's gonna happen. With george springer he can easily sign beforehand by when it comes down to it. One side is gonna get more desperate than the other. If this thing drags closer to spring training will the jay's desperate enough to match that one fifty that springer's talking about or will george springer get desperate that he will. He won't get paid that much and he's gonna have no choice but to settle for a smaller salary. So when when you look at it from those two different types of us. It's almost inevitable that they're going to meet in the middle somewhere. It's going to be a probably a little bit under one fifty. It'd be very surprised if he actually hit one fifty and lots of people are pretty much against us as well from what i've been seeing on my page. I guess there's some people who think it's worth it but most of the things. I've seen have george springer not worth one hundred and fifty million dollars whatsoever so it does seem a bit rich. It's a little bit of a stretch for me as well. But i'm not gonna say you know he's one hundred percent completely not worth hundred and fifty million because he is a high caliber player and he would make this a lot better in terms of what we have right now. In the the outfield he'd come in and play he'd be the everyday center fielder and that potentially leads to other moves jacob. You're out you're talking about other names. I could potentially be gone. You're talking but lord Randall grischuk and you know the what the outfield would look like. If george look like of george springer came here so lots of possibilities. But i wouldn't be surprised. One bit of this thing dragged on a little bit longer than expected. He's you know. Especially if the mets didn't offer him one hundred fifty million dollars. That's telling you something because they have the most money to spend And george springer is asking for one fifty in the jays went well under that. It just feels like they're going to meet in the middle somewhere two sides or one of the two sides. We'll get more desperate. And it'll either be george springer who wants to make sure he plays and he's going to have no choice but to take the under or the jays that desperate to sign george springer and then they offer more or close to one hundred and fifty million as i guess the spring comes closer or even if we're in spring training when this happens you can't write anything off the table just because of the uncertainty with offseason. It's just it's interesting to think about the offer that they have but especially that clip says it alone mark unless the mets gm is pretty much playing a decline. Everybody's saying that. And then they're still going to go after george springer. I guess you can't rule that out. But if he's saying that he doesn't necessarily need somebody who's gonna play every day or someone that expensive an easy alternative when you think of it. Is somebody like jackie bradley. Jr. who would make sense for that team now Who would be a lot. Cheaper for the mets payroll and the door to open up a little more for the blue jays to come in and you. You can't write off a potential dark team that you might have to compete with to outbid or you know. Just win over george springer to sign him. So there's it's getting interesting now. And i just. I'm would not be surprised if this francis school endure deal opened up the doors and started what the jays needed them to do in order to get him and to start. Kick the to start to kick the tires on this. Because it's it's gonna get interesting towards the end and we still haven't even we haven't even spoken about dj mayhew and if you weeks. And he's another one who is pretty much what we know so far. He's ways away with the yankees as well as they can't seem to agree on it. We've touched we touched on it a little bit the last podcast but that somebody else will have to look into. There's mark you've mentioned him a few times and of course they're gonna feels like the jays are by no question. They're going out of starters while before the start of the season that that might come a little bit later. Which would be expected We've we've mentioned names. That are available and jay z is one of the top names that are available right now. So that's another thing that to expect to see. The off season comes to a close that jays will add another starter at some point and right now it feels like they're prioritizing on george springer doing everything they can and hopefully he comes. We all wanted to be here The salary seems a little bit high from what he's asking. But i think they'll meet in the middle at some point and it's going to be down to who gets more desperate for him or if the jay got more desperate closer to when the spring starts. I also think that you know maybe the blue jays offer of one hundred and fifteen million was originally kind of a low ball offer. But i don't think it is now now that the market has changed. I think springer is going to be a lot cheaper than he would would have been because francisco indoor maybe take some. That's utterly equation. And even if the mets are still in the equation. They're going to be less willing to spend money because they're spending money on francisco lindor perhaps with an extension. They're already gone now. They've paid a little in terms of prospects with him. I think they're going to be less aggressive as well. Which obviously bodes well for the blue jays bode well for both teams having to spend less so i think that's good thing in and while you're rattling off infielders. Dj lemay you. Cold long chris. Brian is a name. That's been bouncing around baseball twitter. He's increasingly likely to be traded. Apparently the mets and the cubs were talking about trade for him but apparently they haven't discussed trade over the past few weeks. It seems like talks have kind of broken down. So maybe that's a name which should be on the lookout for the blue jays Who knows. I think it's a bit unlikely but you know at the rate that guys are being traded this season for very little. If you look at yu darvish blake smell. Obviously francis san francisco door. Maybe that's something that the blue jays want to entertain. But yeah it's definitely. I think this is something that's in my opinion. I think it's a obviously francisco. Ordeal is a good thing for the blue jays but the blue jays offer hundred and fifteen million dollars. I think it's low but is getting closer to what springer will eventually signed for because now. His market isn't as robust So let's move on to our next topic. Marcus stroman Lashed out this week on twitter. Of course we know. His twitter habits are adventurous. No matter what what you look at it but This week he had some choice words for the blue jays. After the mets acquired for instance goal indoor he tweeted in response to a blue jay. Fan saying that front office will never build the team. They should around their unbelievable core young players. It's a travesty I have very strong thoughts about this. You guys get. I honestly i. It's over the last. What is it six months. There have just been so many. Instances of stroman just going off on twitter. I don't know why it just this is just one of those situations where you look at it and you just kind of shake your head and laugh a little bit because marcus stroman has absolutely no idea what the bluejays are doing right. Now they are. They probably have not spoken to him in years. Maybe right now. They're focused on building a team. And i just i home josh. It's just it's really. I'm at a loss for words. It's just. I don't know where these comments are coming from. I think they're really just a random bursts of his opinion that nobody really asked for. I just a whole bunch of nonsense really in my opinion. And i think it's a lot of it is untrue. I mean the blue jays to this point have not really made any moves in the offseason however the off seasons not over and obviously their tenure with the blue jays is not oversee. You can't say that will the blue jays and they didn't Trade francisco indoor. They haven't signed george springer yet. They haven't they haven't done something yet even though they still have a long time before you know i think it's fair to say we've said there i think mark spiro still with the team for the next five six years and obviously we talked us a few weeks ago where the blue jays they have we kind of expect there this current core to stay with them maybe for the majority of the twenty twenties so it's not like one half of an off season or even one off season determines mar. The front office is not willing to do anything. So it's just it's confusing and one of the things. I said this is just completely untrue. And you look at last year. They signed hanjin review. He was there. S so i don't know how they built a among their core clearly drafted well. They've they've developed. Well obviously they have a very good call right now and i think this year coming into twenty twenty and even or twenty twenty one and even further. I think i've said this before. But i predict that this team will potentially be a new dynasty Among the lead. So it's just. I don't know where is getting this from. Obviously yes they have like. I said the bluejays haven't really made any moves to date as of This offseason but i don't know where strowman getting this from. It's just it's just one of those things where he just goes on twitter and he says something you know. It's easy to type your opinion behind the keyboard. And just say well. You know what i don't like the blue jays so i'm gonna i'm just gonna say that they they're they're not a good. They don't have a good front office but he can. He can have that opinion. I think the front office has been very good. I think the thing is. I don't think they're being as aggressive and impulsive as as stroman is kind of thinking that they should have been and when i say impulsive i mean obviously. They said they wanted to sign a lot of Star players. i mean literally speaking. They said that but they haven't done anything yet you know. They're taking their time. They're saying what francisco endures a good player. But do we absolutely need him into we want to deal with potentially resigning and we're doing anything they're they're carefully they're making calculated moves and i think that's the thing i think a lot of fans also kind of a little frustrated. We talked about this earlier. You know they're saying well. How come you haven't made any moves. Just relax bluejays know what they're doing. They've obviously metro. Pyro and ross are mark spiral in. Cleveland obviously built a world series contenders. They were very good for a while. So it's not like they don't know what they're doing so it just no disrespect but nobody asked like i. I don't know where. I don't know why just the blue jays are all of a sudden. A terrible terribly managed team just because they haven't gone and signed every single free agent on the market or done a million trades this offseason. I think the blue jays. They have what they need obviously. There's that the team can improve upon but just to say this is a this is a travesty. This is terrible front office. Because they haven't made a ton of moves this offseason is just. It's it's i don't agree with it at all. And i just. Sometimes i wish people would just not share those types of movements. Marcus stroman is mad for two reasons. Number one is that the jason pam number two is that he was traded to the wrong new york. Tim because we all know that he wants to be a yankee. And i just go back to the. I guess the day. He was traded where or one of the final days in toronto when he was i. Guess here's that day after the game. I you guys remember this where he apparently he freaked out in the club or something like that and he was like throwing things around but Mark marcus stroman. I was a big fan of marcus. Stroman I still think a solid pitcher. But you know. I'm just getting the vibe with him. Now i'm just. I'm starting to get a little bit fed up with him He's been gone now for over a year he opted out last year. He didn't even play one inning of baseball and he still better towards the front office. Which i guess makes sense if you know a team traded you to a place where you didn't want to go into team didn't pay you what you wanted because let's let's be realistic here. He was in love with the city of toronto. And i'm sure he would have stayed here if the jays peyton but they didn't and that would make sense for why he's better but yeah i just. I don't pay too much attention to it anymore. I'm not surprised that he's still kind of taking low. Low ball shots at the jays and Yeah i don't know. I just you know he's been gone for a couple years now. And we got anthony cave from the mets and those also siemian woods richardson to who's supposed to be a very solid pitcher. Hopefully we see in the next couple of years. So i'm pretty excited with those two. And anthony k had a good season last year out of the bullpen. But marcus stroman. He's not going to change. He won't he won't change with twitter. he You know the one thing about him. That i'll give them credit to is. He's never been afraid to say what he truly thinks on twitter. He's been. I guess. I guess the second incident in a matter of months. He's had with like i guess something affiliated with the blue jays the grischuk incident. We we know what happened there and the that wasn't a very good exchange. I won't repeat everything that was sad because we we did speak about it but that that was one thing and then the other thing was of course the shots the front office and even when he was traded to begin with there is also shots at the front office. So you know whatever it's just mark stroman can take all the shots. He wants He's on a good team in in new york and he had to go back this year on a one year deal because of course he did opt out in two thousand twenty. I wish nothing. But the best of luck but i just. I don't really pay too much attention anymore. I i don't really have any reaction. It's like a slap on the wrist. Just because we know who he is we know how he's always kind of acted like this on social media so you know that's just the way he is and Not not much of a reaction. But i'm not surprised as well that he he's still taking shots at the front office. And the one thing. I can guarantee as it won't be the last either sure there'll be a lot more down the road that he says he's he's a joke he's a class. I dunno all those words are what. I'm feeling right now lake. He's yeah he hasn't been on the blue jays for almost two years and he has the gall to come out and see. The blue jays are a travesty and doing nothing to build around their base. Well first off the blue jays traded you. Because you were talking the clubhouse like we've heard that like you mentioned the random grishik thing that started because people were saying that. Marcus stroman kicked minor leaguers like thirty minor leaguers or something out of a training room so he could train in there by himself and we got confirmation of that happening from the minor leaguer who is now retired from baseball. Who is in the room when it happened like he. He's just toxic. He's problem. And i think i mean we've seen a lot in the past few days of people on twitter. I'm not gonna name names but you know having repercussions for what they've tweeted and marcus. Stroman is just. He's a problem like that's my opinion. he's i don't understand what made him come out and say this like the blue jays traded you. Because you were a problem you were toxic in the clubhouse and they're doing just fine without you. We have one of the biggest and best young bases in all of baseball aunt. Were also being very aggressive. This offseason maybe. We haven't made all the deals but listen we've missed out on what three guys you know halcion kim. We missed out on francisco. Linda ori missed out on and then we missed out on sugano went back to japan. Didn't even signed with a single. Mlb team and then you look at all. The other guys at bluejays have been interested in and they haven't missed out on. I mean we've been talking about all podcasts but dj lemay. Hugh jt real mutoko. Trevor bauer george springer liam hendriks. Brad hand Justin turner Gene is the guy they were connected to cold and wong. Gb mike fears Marcelo zona Garrett richards it's just the list goes on and on of all these guys who are still on the market that the blue jays have been connected to. It makes no sense to say they've done nothing and they're doing nothing to build up their base of young players just baseless claim that i would call it a lie. It doesn't it's not true and at the same time like you have no even if it was true. Don't don't be making these claims. Get yeah it. It makes me so mad and he. He's just mad at the blue jays because he got traded to the wrong team. It's a joke. And i i like you said bryson. I was a fan of him when he was on the blue jays. But seeing what. He's i i don't know if he's kind of become this new toxic brand on twitter if he's always been this way and i look the other way because he was a blue jay I don't know but yeah he's really annoying me. I think honestly that was the same thing with me. I remember. I think i want to say it was twenty. Seventeen the tim anderson incident where i think stroman struck him out and he was screaming his head off. You know he was so happy that he he got. He got out of the inning. And tim anderson inserted a. He started getting angry at him. And i think there was some twitter beef between the two of them but i kind of side stroman just because he was a blue jay and i think now that isn't a blue jay the bias towards the stuff that he says just has kind of gone away but one of the things that i've always found interesting stroman always make so many claims and comments about how good he isn't how nobody's willing to to basically build a team around him. The blue jays didn't pay him. They didn't trade him to the right team. Look buddy like how your seasons. Your era was about four so or very high threes. So chill. And i'm not saying that you can't speak just because of your stats but at the same time. Don't don't trash a team. Just because they didn't do exactly what you wanted and like you said bracing. He's on a good team. I think the mets will be very good this year and the mets owner clearly cares about the team. They they want them to be a good team. So i don't know why. Just because you're not wearing a black and white medically a terrible situation for you. And i could go on and on and make a few claims that maybe would be untrue and just opinion based but just overall strowman. Just just please stop. It's just like like we've all said. These claims are just completely untrue. And we can bring up. Instances of where this ownership has actually built a good made a good acquisitions to this good core. So it's just a bunch of baseless claims honestly. Yeah i'll i'll just send it off that the one thing i'll always give stroman credit for is how motivated he is to succeed. We the hd doesn't measure heart. he's he's motivated and i'll we'll end it on a somewhat positive note with him but i truly wish nothing but the bathroom just adds. It's it's unnecessary. Put it the at least to call out the front office again. After you've been gone for a couple years now just focus on twenty twenty one focused on getting your value so you can get paid because you are. I guess he is due to get paid. I guess next offseason. So and you have someone in francisco. Indoor team who's serious contenders. That should be all you want right now. That should be all that you need to go. Try and win the pennant so good best of luck to him but just unnecessary just Unnecessary that's that's all. Leave it ahead. And i'm all for like like making baseball entertaining like these are in all honesty. These are the type of guys. We need for baseball to become a more popular sport like the trevor. Bowers the marcus stroman like they're controversial. But they make headlines rate. They make it exciting. We talk about marketing. The players like i. I'm pretty sure all most baseball fans probably know marcus stroman name just because of the fact that he's so outspoken. On twitter he so aggressively honest. I guess is a way to put it. But i still don't think this is beneficial. I don't think this is helping anyone by making the conversation about this negative you know travesty. Bluejays not doing anything. Like i'm all for let the kids play. I'm all for backflips. You know screaming on the mound. Liam hendriks guy we see he's always pumped up on the mound when he leaves amount. He's screaming jason grill and other guy who played for the blue jays. I am all that excitement. And i think it's great. I think it's the only way to grow the sport. But i don't think you grow the sport by trashing other teams on twitter. I don't think that's the way to do it. And that's all. I'll say on it all right so another thing that happened this week. In the plethora of topics we have to talk about. Today is mlb dot com Released their predictions for twenty twenty one and they called them bold predictions but they are very very bold predictions. They had the blue jays actually is very high favorites for a lot of these things. They predicted a the blue jays. You're going to win the al and the american league pennant meaning. They're going to the world series in twenty twenty one if we're to believe. Mlb dot com. They also predicted vladimir guerrero. Junior will be the american league. Mvp which i think might be the most outlandish prediction of theirs. And then lastly predicted that charlie montolio will be the american league manager of the year they also projected the blue jays as ninth in their power. Rankings this month. Which i think. That's something i actually agree with. you know. maybe they're not ninth in terms of talent but if we're believe what they're saying they're aggressive enough to go out and become ninth in the power rankings. If hough goes well all goes as planned this off season but the predictions of them winning alias. Winning ale vladi. Being mvp montolio being manager of the year. i. I don't agree with any of that like i'm an optimist. I'm a blue jay. But i think all of that is too ambitious. I'm going to be honest. I think winning the east is probably their most when i say using the alias. I think that's probably their most accurate prediction. Just because of. I mean when i look at the standings you know we've talked about this. Are the blue jays. Going to be better than the raise. Next year i could happen. I think that's probably the biggest competition i mean. The the yankees are still going to be decent. You know they were both them and the blue jays made the playoffs last year. Actually there was only one game Between the two of them with the yankees having one extra win. But that's probably the most accurate prediction. I'd i mean ninth. In the league really depends. I mean any normal year that means they make the playoffs but even this year with In twenty twenty. I think the instead of having. What was the sixteen team playoffs this year. They're looking at maybe fourteen or twelve something less than sixteen so ninth bassin's that you know they make the playoffs. I mean do. I think ninth is accurate. I don't know it really depends on how. How big a lead. The bluejays take this year. So you ask for the two players that were called out in terms of charleena montoya vladimiro junior. I think it's interesting with montoya because it seems as if so many aspects so many people within the media whether it's a manager of the year voting last year this year their predictions a buck. Martinez has said that. He predicted a ton of votes. Would go charlie's way. I think you know maybe there are a lot of things that maybe we are a little. I don't know if two is the right word you know. Maybe maybe i'm the one that has it wrong. Maybe he is a lot better manager than i think but Watching watching him every day. It's just there are. He's not a terrible manager. And i think the players do really like him. But i think there are a lot of ways but he could improve as for vladi. Mvp seems a little bit farfetched. Think he you know he. He's a good player. He's been putting in a ton of work in the off season. I don't think we can discredit that. He's seems as if every couple days a new story poster new instagram post of him. You running or something but it honored to be the mvp union to you. You need to take a massive leap forward which he could do. You think he is. A very good player has a very high ceiling. Obviously he was projected to be very good even his rookie days with the number one prospect in baseball before he came up. But it's just i don't know it's. They're called bold predictions for a reason. You know. I don't think that accuracy is the the goal of their of this. These predictions probably china exaggerate a little bigger. But i think a lot of people see the bluejays as being very good and we've seen it too. But i think it's i don't think it's fair to just say that they're going to automatically be like the best team in baseball especially coming from the prediction of winning the nl pennant which means obviously going to the world series. I think i would love to see that. I'm a blue jays fan i. I don't think that i would ever not want that to happen but realistically like you said mark you know is is optimistic as you want to be. There's only so much optimism before you realize that they're probably not going to the world series at least this year. I maybe a couple of years maybe even next year that will happen but overall it's just their bold predictions that are meant to be discussed and talked about and like i said. Maybe they're not the most accurate but it's interesting. I think it's funny to see funny. But it's it's it's It's a bit of an eye-opener to see how how well the league likes this blue jays team. Maybe just to see the media coverage is it is. It is exciting. But i think overall it's just a lot of it is probably not as accurate as an lbs Projecting it to be of their bold than they weren't kidding if they were not kidding. When i saw this i believe mark you sense or to our group chat for i believe that's what i saw it first and when i saw it i did not think it was real her from. Mlb or anything. Like that i was. Yeah i was shocked. And when i looked at this let i'll just start off with the vladimir grow junior one He hasn't lived up to his potential. We know that in the in two years now that he's played. I just want him to slowly get better before we go even near an mvp conversation like where he is now to an end with all due respect for he is now an mvp. It's just that's a pretty long distance and we like that's like saying it as like nicest possible He lost his job at their base. Move over to first base. He just finished. I winter league and i think he made about. He made a few errors. I know that and pretty much what we've been. We've been seeing on twitter. It doesn't look very likely that he's going to get third base back in the spring of based off of how he finished in the winter league. I guess you can't rule it out but he's got a lot to work on before he gets anywhere close to that elite slash. Mvp caliber type of player. He has numbers. Haven't exactly been through the roof. They've been they've been decent. They've been about major league average. But it's nowhere close to what we think is stealing is from what we know of his opium hasn't been highest his batting averages in the highest you know sometimes the struggles to lift the ball up. It's a lot of ground balls. There's a lot to work on it. i'm not. I'm not saying you'll never get to that point but i think i do think you will get better. I just i think we're a few years away from anywhere close to an mvp type of player in and it's all with all due respect because the the amount of hype and attention that he's brought to this team you can't. You can't deny that you can't take that away from you know. The blue jays are starting to be taken seriously on social media being in the power rankings. That's you know that that that one. I can somewhat except in see i guess possible but i just like how the days are getting attention. I think jacob. You mentioned that so. That's the one thing i'm like in about this. People are finally recognizing the young pieces that this team has. And when you look at charlie one toyo You know first of all the only thing. I think we're talking about toyonaga was mark because i know how critical you've been with with. Charlie went toil and Just some of the some. Sometimes i guess we talked when we did during the games of some of his decision making and the amount of times. We've spoken about his decision. Making on this podcast. So that's that's the one thing and then the other thing i do remember is that i guess he is respected around the game. He is and you know. I'm sure every player on the team loves toronto montreal. He's well respected around the game. We saw that. John hayman tweet also last september. Saying how you should be manager of the year and he almost won manager of the year he was a finalist for it so he does get recognition from around the league A lot of jays fans kind of came in to that. I guess tweet threatening kind of set otherwise and said i'm jay fan so and so but he does not deserve manager of the air just some of the decisions he's made but he's only been a manager for two seasons now technically and i guess i like where we are. Which are charlie contract. Next year. he has a club option for twenty twenty two. So that'll be interesting to see what happens there. But i wouldn't be. I would be shocked if he went elsewhere. But i i don't mind chairman montoyo. He's really he's a really nice guy. I actually got to meet him at When the were in new york in two thousand nineteen. I was actually the last baseball game. I went to so Yeah and all of their which i went to toyo- and then of course the lease style that that is just completely unrealistic from my point of view Both of you guys we spoke about the raise potentially take a step back but who knows if jays are going to be able to match them. That's still a question mark and of course one hundred sixty two games. You just feel like that. Alias is gonna go to the yankees and i think you'd be crazy to think otherwise for that reason alone but you know we can't forget who the yankees are and in a full season. Just the yankees are traditionally slow starters while people like john. Carlos stanton starts off slow. Aaron judge starts off slow and they're one of those teams that have to get going closer to the summer months. So you know we're familiar with that. And that's why. I think the lisa's go back to the yankees. But for the as i just i guess you can't rule it out but you know there's a there's still a good chance that the race will be better and for the blue jays for the next couple of years. They're going to be serious while contenders end with the expanded playoff format looking to stay regardless if it goes to fourteen or sixteen teams. The jobs are going to be a wild card contender. Probably from here for the next few years at least and that's a good thing. So you know the jason tatum a step for many steps to take forward but a lot of these predictions are very farfetched. And i think we are going to cap it off. The weimar grow junior. We're still years away from that. And you know just for when. I mentioned off the top. He's got he's okay needs a lot of things to improve on before we get to that elite type slash l. Mvp caliber type of player The one thing i do like is how. How old wasn't the love that this team is getting across baseball but yet they were. They weren't kidding bold and you can capitalize all four letters for that one. It was bold. Yeah it definitely was. I think the most likely of these and let me be clear. You know i. I criticize a lot of what charlie montayo does. But i think overall lake. He still deserves his job. He is a good manager. The blue jays shouldn't fire him but he does make decisions from from time to time. I think overall like the most likely these predictions is at montiel will win manager the because he's already been on the brink of it with a team that you know got swept in the postseason so i think if the blue jays put up a better season granted it won't be through the same difficulties. They had in twenty twenty with all the trees with not knowing where they're playing. You know with getting kicked out of canada. But i think if they put up solid season. There's a good chance manager the year flat no chance. Mvp like love the guy he. I'm sorry i don't see it happening. I do think he'll be a lot better in twenty twenty one. I'm very optimistic about what he's going to be capable of Especially given how much. He's been working this offseason but i think. Mvp is a bit of a stretch and then bluejays winning the al east. It's possible i would put it. You know if we were playing the game we play last week. I'd put it a possible. But i don't think it's likely or certain by any stretch of the imagination. I think taking the step further and saying the bluejays you're going to make the world series and you know the the author wrote this. I think it was anthony castro vince. I want say from. Emily dot com. He left the door open to the blue jays. Winning the world series. He didn't predict which of the two teams i think. He said the padres from the national league. We're gonna make the world series. He didn't say which of the two teams were going to win it so he left door open to the blue jays winning the world series in twenty twenty one. I think that's a big step too far. I love the blue jays. Obviously i'd be over the moon if that happened but i don't think they're at that point in their development. You know maybe next year we see that happen. I think that's entirely possible. But this you're the first step is making it past the first round with postseason. Then we can talk about that But yeah these are. I think the most valuable thing thing that we get from these predictions having jacob mentioned this is just the way the league sees a blue jays. It shows that people are taking the blue jays seriously and people see the talent that the blue jays half the level of aggressiveness. This offseason that they aim to have hand. They're taking it seriously. People are treating the blue jays as a true contender. And i think that's the most valuable thing we can take from these predictions and from this offseason. In general the blue jays have arrived on the the the league wide stage and hopefully we. We do see them. Succeed over the next few years but I do wanna mention before. We sign off Last week we talked a lot about kim We criticize the blue jays. Because originally it was reported that He was asking for a a clause that he couldn't be sent down to the minors We it had been originally reported that the bleachers refused to give him that even though they had given that to a guy like Soon yamaguchi last year in his deal. it turns out we got further reporting. That wasn't accurate. The blue jays did offer The meyer no minor league clause in the contract but That the padres offer for him was just a little bit better. So just wanted to correct that. We kind of railed on the blue jays. Last week about that but Other things dimension bluejays interested in liam hendriks which we of course new but hendrix now Visited the bluejays training complex in dunedin. Which kind of raises the stakes. That it makes us a little bit more serious. And just in general interested in rumor and of course bluejays and hendrix have a strong history um hendrix with the blue jays when they were competing twenty fifteen so he knows what town this. What kind of baseball town. Toronto can be So that obviously bodes well for the blue jays and other guy. Aj cole resigned with the blue jays after they non tendon non tendered in in early december. So that's another good thing for toronto. So just those last two pieces we don't really have time to discuss them but Thought it would be good to mention so thank you to everyone tuned into this episode of second one thirty eight so much to talk and discuss about and hopefully as things heat up. We have some Another jam packed up so next week. Perhaps an emergency podcast. Is things really get going but thank you again for listening as always you can follow us on twitter and instagram. At second one thirty pod on you can read and review our podcast on apple. Podcasts always helps word. Spread the word about overdoing here. So thanks for listening. We'll catch him

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Episode 85: Let's Just Start Over

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Episode 85: Let's Just Start Over

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He's got some new dance moves in his in his bag. Apparently, Tommy smokes. Tom belly? What's going on? What's those moves are actually one video wasn't good? But the one where my knees are moving out of like, a crab leg. I mean that was actually. Disagree. I don't know what you're doing. You got don't don't let that be next time. At people ask you, comfortable comfortable in my own skin. I'm I'm gonna let the move talk themselves. We'll we'll get in the Vegas at the end of the show. We're going to the Yankees right now. It's a new season watch regular season baseball. Feels great actually stuff to do. Now. Watch the keys instead of just sit around on my ass, the bad news, they'll sitting around their ask just watching the ankles. Well, went to the game on Saturday. That was well tire still sitting on the ask there. I guess but. Bad news, still haven't changed the strategy of beating the Orioles. We're not doing it or hitting with runners scoring position. The up to for fourteen to twelve to fourteen to fourteen not good two things. I mean, the two biggest the biggest problem Yankees. Last year was their inability hit with John scoring for this hour to get that key hit make productive outs. I think they were very reliant on the long ball, which is okay when you hit two hundred sixty seven home runs at burqa major league record. But as we saw in the playoffs and stuff you need to be able to be better at situational hitting us. The reason the Red Sox or so good last year the reason that and we'll, you know came back today, and they they get the right hit at the right time. Danke have not been able to do that they chase out of the strike zone. Yeah. They'll draw their walks here. But they just cannot seem to get the big hit in the moment. They needed. It was the biggest problem last year. It seems like it's going to play them again this year, which would suck and the other big problem for last year, which seems to again be the case is they cannot be the goddamn Baltimore Orioles to four twelve runners Corp. Today. John Carlson hates big moments in driving people in just the spy not a good not a hobby of his to drive people. In a big big moments actually comes up with the worst moments of his life. Can't hit the change up. That was interesting. We got a guy name. I mean, the whole Orioles roster. It's fucking insane that they should be two three. I mean, it's got him. John means going three and a third against us. One run ball five ks anxious. Throwing the changeup into anything else. Isn't a fastball. Many thing I'll stir changeups you knew. It was coming screaming change, my room alone. I'm just screaming changeup Stanton has no idea. What's coming swings? Which I- Thursday after the game Thursday. I was laugh as looking at the Orioles roster. I was laughing all this team this poor team. When twenty four games this year, the number. I throws the Oriels may when twenty four games this year. Yep. Well, they already got to knocked off right there. Yeah. You like you think about so the priming the the probably going to be a very bad team. Don't think Oriels that surprise sleeper this year? Just don't see it happening or we had our own. What if the Oriels are the powerhouse alias? Thank you just lost a tough series to great bulk up. I said today's looks like the to me the raising raising Oriels battling enough they at least while. Neither is we'll be. Yeah. There is good. I guess the Mariners are gonna be five and one they're gonna be in Croatia. They might actually be that sleep. They have like some scrappy guys on the Mariners team. But what we're talking the is here we got guys like the Smith guy, Ray, Nado, Nunez, just killing us all week destroying us. Fucking three run Homer today. Jay hap- body. We doing. I mean, you probably early part, but wasn't good. Yeah. I only saw the end. I we didn't have TV on the plane, and they didn't even have how do you not have TV's in twenty well that too? And then Also Thursday opening day. I didn't have live TV was able to like buy something where I could stream video so just used FOX Wirtz go, but they they didn't even have like a streaming option. Couldn't you just how to buy like basic WI fi that that didn't even work whatever I don't wanna complain about that see I only saw the end of the game. So I didn't see Jay half. But judging from the vox gore from the scores. I mean, Jay have come up clean it up. I even solve verse three hour rain delay that I will I'll give half a little bit of a pass here. Because as a starting pitcher like, you know, you that for sure three hour rain delay was tough. Congrats to anybody stuck around new ever ward with the Anki just taking a shit on your face, basically. Because I said that if you when it was. Only was early on us for nothing and things were looking bleak before they made a little bit of a rally back. I said every fan should just get a thousand dollars for sticking around the three hours and sitting in the cold in drizzling rain watching this fucking shit team. Be us you deserve thousand dollars cash. You should have been handed that as you walk out the door. I mean, there's a chance that if you went to today's game as anti fan, you could almost Mark today down as one of the worst days your life. You probably leave your house so early overly had a sit and rain for hours thing all the money is spent on the tickets all the money is spent at concessions there. And then you sat through in awful game that took so long and they lost your wet. You get home on a Sunday night. How far you live? It's super late. It's like an all time bad that. Yup. And you probably those me great days Sunday in the Bronx. Nice little one o'clock start and watch him beat up on the Orioles. I mean, a lot of money on them. Just just fucking shit on by lost so much money in the Yankees this weekend because I was at the game. And then today just kept live betting them. They're killing my banks there minus four hundred both days, right? Yeah. We were taking run lines. Live lines. Never bring a mardi Michigan. That's that. I want that blew up my face at great CT ruined everything. He's just is. Fucking mush. So what else? We were you watching Ronin Tarpley today. Did you see that? No, I think that was just about when I started Gary hits the Homer to cut it to one hits a fucking bomb. The most like let out your frustrations home could have. Anoc concern mccarey. I still think he's great. They call it to one eighth inning rolls around. They got Stephen Tarpley in there who hasn't pitched this year yet. And now, I think even Tarpley's good these very good for us. Nice left. The arm out of the pen didn't give up a run in spring. Stephen tar bleeds shouldn't be pitching eighth inning in a one run game. That's not the spot for Stephen Tarpley with plenty other guys do that. And he just and it gives them a two run Homer to Joey Joey Ricard, Rickard whatever I say is names, and that pretty much did it. I mean, they rallied a little bit in the ninth. But wasn't an too late to too much too late. Zach Britton could have been used there for sure I mean, you don't wanna use Chapman that spot. Obviously, maybe is I don't know you wanna use out of you know, three or four days, but there were options they're besotted when Canley and inning earlier use Canley there. Yeah. Him to I'm Brenton. I think Zach Britton like I think they're scared because they they have you know, they're gonna they're pretty much doing bullpen day on Monday with her mom. Starting it. Although I think it's gonna turn into her mom pitching a normal game. Some sure they were trying to, you know, save a bullet and go Tarpley there. But the wrong move. I didn't like something. I mean, you gotta win games. I get it. I mean, you put him on the team you have faith in him. But. It was again, it's gained three. But you don't want to start the season lose two out of three the I think they had a manage it a little bit more like we need to win today. Yeah. I mean. I hate people that say like, what are you getting so fed up about like it's March relax by this is how we how we lost the division last year. You lose these fucking the shit teams. This isn't even a shit team. This is this is a really good teams zaas this some good teams. There's the sleeper teams. There's some bad teams. There's shit teams. Then there's a hundred feet of crap. And then there's the Orioles that's the team we lost a fucking series too. I'm not okay with that. That's you can't be okay with that. Judge is not okay with that. Judge had a quote after Saturday, and it was great. I was like I want to get it right here. Pull it up. He was just you know, they were flat. They reflect. There was listen. I get Sunday you come up, a rain delay three hour, rain delay. You're all out of whack or three hour rain delay to that's fair totally fair. But on Saturday, no excuse for that you're facing fucking Nate. Kearns who hasn't. Pitched in a year. He didn't pitch last year, he's recovering from thoracic outlet syndrome, which is what Harvey had them pretty sure. And you let that guy just muo over you come on judge after the game on Saturday. I love all this scummy fired up was like pre gaming when when I saw this quote. I was just like let's go we're winning ten fans on that. Didn't happen goes last year. There were so many missed opportunities in games that we should have one. We didn't come up with a big hit a costly error. Every single game is important in the playoffs. Especially in twenty seventeen going down to Houston and Cleveland our backs were against the wall. And we came out and played our butts off that's got to be our mindset our backs against the wall. You can't take anybody lightly. I mean, that's exactly wanna hear that something Derek jeeter would say that you know, that something air as the leader of this team. Aaron judge these say that and then you just come out like this on Sunday. They what. I mean, you got it back that talk. I mean. Yeah. I mean, he had he had a big hit. He added. He had. I'm not saying him specifically. Yeah. They have to be able to back that up, and they just didn't any. I agree. These people are like it's March. It's not even April. It's game show. Equal. Every game. The Saint every game is one of one hundred sixty two doesn't matter when it's plead. Everyone counts as a win every loss counts as one loss. And also, we waited six months to loss in heartbreaking fashion. The Red Sox. We spent it off season they got a little bit better. But you know, it wasn't the splashy offseason. Everyone sort of expected. Thank he's finally get back, and we opened up the season losing two out of three at home. One of the worst baseball teams ever. Of course, you could be mad about that. Now, we're going to be bad this year doesn't mean that they're gonna you know, lose one hundred games or anything they'll be fine in the long run. But still right now like it pisses you off especially because of the way they lost being what basically ended their season last year. The people that say these games are important can actually go fuck off go into the ocean. Just keep walking. And don't don't turn around just keep walking. That's why won't you do every fucking game matters while we're basically if you're a baseball fucking nerd lug us every like, this is what I live for your gangs. I lift the Neo gangs. Get trounced fucking Baltimore Orioles. And Ray not newness. And John means John means, I mean, we're we're whole company based off of like names. Right. Like, you have to have a good name to be an athlete. John means. The odds of becoming a pro athlete negative one hundred percent John that is a mere Johnny fucking professional baseball player. John means an insurance Ausman. Yeah. Generic city. The fuck is Eric Uber. Mint is a better fucking name than that. Now. I don't know about that hubs works short works better. Classic office guy. That's why like walking around. You're walking your desk and say human, those files, we're not. Yeah. Then you time me in the bathroom, which is crazy to still let you do that. All right. Let's get good group in there. I like exiled when you do that. Because I was actually timed at my last job in the bathroom. So we'll PTSD your time at this job to fuck. You. There was some good today. Your your most hated person in the world and the guy who has some belief in Lewis pretty fucking good that I say I thought he's he came in and the fifth to leave to relieve half and. And Hymie Nieva's good. He gave a run early. You got charged one for the game give too. But did what he had to do eight innings through strikes five ks. He's pretty good. I as a long relief guy passed the first for me. So I don't know look you'd probably see. But now, but you know, what I do is. I don't wanna start the season three games in losing a series to the Orioles and talking about our bright spot being Louis goddamn Cessa. That is not how I wanted this season to start for totally fair. Got another bright spot for you. DJ LeMay who is the best hitter of ever seen in my life that I couldn't agree? More the keys need nine DJ limit who's he is a professional hitter. And when we got him we saw that in the off season. All right. He's a contact hitter. He's gonna hit hopefully near three hundred just put the ball in play kind of type hitter. At the Red Sox too made them successful last year. That's the type of guy we need an oats only been to two games for him. But I mean, he's he's unbelievable. He's unbeliev. He is everything out amount of, you know, told us he'd be he said, he's quiet, but you're gonna love him the fans will love digilent- IRA deal. I mean. What? Yeah. I mean, even on Saturday. Had the are opening RBI single up the middle. He had two hits on Saturday and made a few plays at third. I was like, Yep. I like that guy knows that feels like them like that man because everyone else is like very shaky glared gleyber still making his young mistakes a little bit too low is gonna be legit obviously to Chiloe throughout the guy at home yesterday on Saturday. And I was like okay, I in that was a little too low wind back the clock type play. He looks great out there. So far, I basically a little liability burder. Void no one's an all star. There. And obviously you have to her when you watch and Harpo third, although he did make it very nice butter today to save a double and he couldn't come up. He he is throw was like probably three tenths of a second. Too late. Not as falls very nice play. But when you watch LeMay who out there, you're like, okay TAT's? That's like if we Manny Machado. That's they're basically the same fielding wizards out there. I will say jumping around here real quick. But and a hard getting charging error on Saturday. You actually game on Saturday. I saw that. Yeah. That that being charging error was. I mean, don't always that Saturday Friday now. Wait a minute Thursday. There's bird sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Rainsville jumbled that air on Thursday. I mean that's Greg birds error. That's that's bullshit that he got starts there invade very nice play. The throw a one hopper that bird has to come up with. That's his faulty hit or an error on bird. Not. And that's that is bullshit to the errors thing. We said we're seventeen and a half. That's well it does count. I'm only saying that because I took the over in that. But back to LeMay who do you think he should be leading off? Who sucks is Brett Gardner Burke, garner sucks. He did today did have one as in zero seventy or something. I mean like you look at the ankles lineup and all the averages and on Baker Sanjay's, a pretty good three games. But it's not like people are hitting, you know, a buck fifty Brett garners the I mean he's starting off every game. And every time he is out with the exception of thing. And that hearts, you can't have that making out every time you get up, especially when you're a head of Aaron judge, call the Stanton, Luke Voight. He yeah, I think should be leaving Brett Gardner shot. He's a shell of himself. I'm sure we'll get hot eventually whatever all say Gardy, come for me, usually more of a garner support. Anyone else should be price ocked route there, whatever I don't wanna get into it. But no Gardner leading feels forced this point. What here it's not anymore? Now, you know what's gonna happen on Monday. Right. I mean. That's no, no. Here's a hundred percent now playing on the. Yeah works. That's how Aaron Boone in the analytical department work. Oh did good today. Day off the Mark. It's tally do it. Yeah. There's no way you a Monday. I mean. Yeah. He needs to be. I mean, I agree. But he needs to be in the lineup every day at this point. I mean, he's hitting the ball. Really? Well, hopefully Knicks get back soon. Too obvious. He'll be leadoff hitter. Once he's back now Burke garner one thing to bring them back. It's one thing to have them be starting now while likes his out, but you can't have them lay off any more. No, it does not work. Obviously, we do need Hicks his bat in there soon. I was thinking long term today, even though it's been three games. And this is the most overreaction thing of all time to thought, but when Dee's back, and let's say Hicks is there and everyone's healthy. How do you get LeMay, Hugh, everyday at that's think I starting to think about that. I do have the the correct answers Voight will be Deitch and LeMay he will be a first baseman. I think that makes a lot. Lineup. I think. Yeah. I agree. That's yeah. So drink Carlo and left Hickson center judge in right? The man who first boy. Yeah. Now, I make sense. And you and you can also you still have all the tulips. He's a lot of. Yeah. I I mean, I don't think that's going to be like that was not planned to be a long-term makes it to July were that's unbelievable to the cat him. You definitely get a World Series ring. Really ready if they win the World Series. He right here in the World Series. I will say on and with that lineup. I mean, we're taking we're talking months ahead. No. But. You know, you can play you can still spell everybody. You don't. Void can just go play. I for a day when we'll make you just go place. Short third second while that guy de H is you can finagle it a lot. There's a lot. You can do it at the top of their priority list right now, I was just thinking it because I think he's the greatest ever seen. So I just want to plan for him to be in the lineup everyday. But that doesn't need to happen. I would very much like him to be leading off. That'd be very cool. Other things from today. I guess that's covers today. Saugus talk opening day. It's good things. Right. Opening day was awesome. Luke voids Homer was electric. I mean what better way to start of can Harper just homered again Jesus Christ. Two zero seventy seven Brecher and Harper's just moon. Shots aren't little hoodies wherein Barcelo de screaming he is a Hanje every single person in in the stadium. Even the fans. Luke voice, Homer was awesome. What better way to start? What just gotta be like an awesome moment for him. Because you know, we're year removed from him being in Saint Louis forgotten man with no role whatsoever. Because Matt carpenter's ahead of him in the in depth chart and carpenters, very, very good. And it wasn't his fault. Really? And then we give chasing even guy goes. And he flashed over the year and the guys are fucking opening day cleanup hitter for the New York Yankees. And he's hitting a three run home in the first inning. Does not get better that now it was it was like when he came up to a plea. It was in the back of ruins mind here. Like, oh, could you imagine? If it's a home run here didn't actually expect it and then he just sent up ball to the moon. I mean, you've dubbed Luke for your favorite athlete of all time. Right. Basically right now, I I like him a lot. I'm I was I think a little more skeptical new coming into the season. I mean, obviously, he still has a lot more proved this. Zain? But that hitting that Homer that I in that moment. I was like, okay. Like, he's the real deal. Yeah. He has vaulted to my favorite player in sports, which is very hard thing to do because Roger Federer is number one. But right now weird. But whatever what fetter there was the fact that was fetters weird even over this. But McClay just one is hundred first title today, says very cool one Miami open on that great. But it's just weird tap is your favorite athlete ever. Yeah. Whatever. But just brings a smile on my face every time, he's every time something good. I just get. I personally feel maybe we've been so in on him from the start that like he's our guy. But everything I mean him he hits the home run. His heart is beating so fast tries to eat sunflower seeds and just as brain isn't working. He just throwing like five hundred of sieges in his mouth. And he just no idea what he's doing is very young. I used to. I when I played like literally got so I would because I could never eat sunflower sunflower seeds never able to crack my now and get the seed just put a chunk in suck on them. And get the flavor and spit them out whole, you know, I played baseball my whole life. I never have ever done seeds ever. Yeah. Never tried one sunflower seed. That's insane. I just I. Yeah. I know it's crazy. I do video just trying to sunflowers. I don't I wouldn't even know what to do. It's I mean, you it's hard to do it in your mouth. I know people. Do it. You could crack it you do one at a time like crack it in eat it look ridiculous. But it is a way to try it. Yeah. I mean, come up is never a major corrobos gets a hold of this. You're in trouble. Probably the Yankee baseball ours. Never eaten sunflower seeds to shoot gum all the time. The gum guy. I probably prefer gum. But still something you just gotta try. Yeah. Whenever I played baseball was true. Gum. Yeah. That is very bizarre and hand up on that. But it's just the way it is. I guess I'll get into. But the thing is I've very addictive personality. So I'm probably gonna try very soon, and I won't stop. I'll be I'll be eating sunflower seeds forever ago. So look forward to that the backs of Voight that was great and the funniest part two is out on the flip side of everything you Greg bird striking out in his first three at bats. He has that visual laid laying out for the end of Hearthrow, and he's just the balls behind them, and he's just on the floor. And then the other side voice. Just the hero of of the city is but they did go deep later. Congrats. You hit a solo Homer. Make it seven to two man. Awesome. You're you're the best. They had to make the apologised happy. They had to bring them send them home at something. Now, we'll say did hit the overs. He was kinda hero to some people with that home run good for him though, since then he's done absolutely nothing like zero didn't even play on Saturday knew. I was going game. Just said he wants the analytics team boonies like can't do it hubs is in third row. Can do it. It's probably exactly what happened. Exactly, what happened Tanaka was very good. On opening day. Think he was a year prediction that he said he's gonna be Cy Young candidate right contender? Good star for that. I mean. Yeah. Good star for that. I mean can't you know, I I was gonna say it's the Orioles. But then again, J half made the Orioles, you know, look like the what they are capable team as the rest of the team. So yeah, I mean definitely good start like he he looked a little tick that he came out of the game before the end of the sex. Thank you aren't finished at six ending. But it's early, and you know, or the ozone monster so embed bent for him bad. They do only shrug off three guys. Couldn't get the fourth tough. Is the way that ball moves is ridiculous. I don't know how anyone is ever. Hit a ball. I wholeheartedly believe he was strike out. They Ruth everytime. He. Yeah. He might like I now believe it. He's giving me no reason not to like, he's just incredible. And then it's impersonal Saturday came in for an out got the guy mealy. He he's great. Yeah. I mean, that's he's such a weapon that we're gonna have all year. It's off a lot of lot of gifts. If people just having no idea what they're doing with this bitches, and so far so good Gary behind the plate minus is throws of every of all things for things to be off. Every throw is like tailing into the runner at second. He had like a few ball like three three balls two or three balls. So far this weekend in the feel? Yeah. Yeah. Blocking balls. Great. Just can't go the Flusher hill. When you got a cannon. You got a cat. And I think he'll he'll figure that out. But yeah that is weird. It's almost like he can only be good at one of the two things at a time, and you know, for the rest of his career. It was always good at throwing camp lock the ball. And now, it's which very bizarre ever gonna base on Friday on seeing Friday Thursday. I've got on base even too low a nice little double. I must've felt good for him tool than homered on Saturday opposite field. So good rim. Hasn't been hurt. Making good place guys out the plate. He did pinch today. For Gardner didn't go swell. Didn't get a full swing. It blame for that though. I mean that stuff to come on that. Yeah. I would like one swing in your pin about though instead of two half swings. Yeah. That would have been that would have been ideal. But I mean, I think all things considered pretty pretty solid start to the season firm for sure. Yeah. I mean, three days not hurt. The fact that you've made this far without anything is fantastic. I don't very cool. I couldn't tell. So did you see the close up shot of him Thursday after his double to think he was getting a motion or anything that was just a face? He was making. No that's just as face and asked him f game. And they were like they they estimate like eight times like house a field ahead that double you know, how how good if leaving the home run. And he was just like, yeah. It was fine. Whatever just is stone cold faces. He he tries to be Derek Jeter. And he's just like, yeah. It was cool like good to get. We won the game. It's all a matter. He's literally Derrick jeeter. So in terms of his persona. We've a new segment on the short porch. It's called I made this up texts. Didn't even know what this was going to be called texts from your ex. Today. Three former Yankee starting pitchers pitch today. We're gonna call my access number one was Sonny gray. How do you think the sun man did today? I know he did very very poorly. So I watched the game. 'cause I 'cause we were delayed, and I well, I watch the first few innings when he was in even took the reds Mayes from thirty five felt like, hey got a good lineup been here. He's gonna win the Cy Young. Probably fuck me and face all this. That's a nap. So here's how the game started. Staw? There's a ball immediate out. Then a ball hit back to the first base ball heads of auto sonny's cover. I drop Sibal. So that guys on then a line out to Yasser, which was probably hit one hundred forty miles an hour. Couldn't have been hard hit harder than a single because on the air. I think he went to second or whatever and hit by pitch. So the first of all the hit by pitches. Sunny, grayer, two balls hit over one hundred ten miles an hour and a run. So he has not changed one bit almost like it wasn't the keys that are false room being dead. Yeah. It's almost like having his college pitching. Coach means absolutely nothing. And at it's like, oh, you actually just can't pitch anywhere stink. Sonny's full line was two thirds five hits three runs to earn four walks. No strikeouts and seventy two pitches. Awesome. So they gave him a four year deal. Good for that. Someone pitch today who I didn't even think was alive anymore. Michael Pineda made a start to see that absolutely shocked. He was good. You see his numbers? No. I didn't. He only I guess he's on a pitch. Limit of something unless he got her looking at the box score. But I could very well or you gotta check for pint one another. Four innings forty pitches. One hit one walk five strikeouts. I could see him having a comeback player of the year type season. I always I always liked Pineda. I always thought he should have been away better than he was even back when he was on Seattle. I I liked him a lot. I remember the way wars had his stuff was always fascinating to me as a mand obviously things didn't work out injuries. But he still what he's still pretty young. Like, I I could see him putting together a night season. He. Oh, how old you think? He is. He could be anywhere from thirty six to twenty seven in my mind. Now, I was gonna guess. Thirty. You're correct. Exactly. He's thirty. Although. I remember when in a twenty seventeen right? He was that was last year to twenty sixteen. Twenty seventeen. I. Hearted never sevi- breakout. Your was that's twenty seventeen twenty seventeen. Yeah. He started last. No. Yeah. He had the he got hurt. But there was a period where it was full fought. Who was the ace of the Yankees. It would just go, but go back and forth, every no opinion. That's good Pineda was. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was very fulsome. Remember, there was I think it was it was twenty fifteen rehab fifteen or sixteen strikeout game against the Orioles was mother's day Sunday afternoon, and he. And he. He is have the ability. No hit you like there was no hit somebody or or give eight in three innings. Our last contestant on text from your ex your best friend your best pal. You guess? I mean, my immediate thought was Sean cone. I know he's out of the league best friend best pal as in sarcastic tone. All right. Let's hear it. Lance lynn. Flint's Lynn fuck, Lance. Lynn, guess what? He did today. He went five and two thirds, which is good for. That's that's good length. Right. Five and two thirds. Good for him. He gave up ten hits and gave up seven runs tough. Yeah. Well, the Rangers. They went eleven to ten but not because of him. We know did he get? No it was tied. They they walked it off like Joey Galloway wild pitch actually watches on the ESPN. Yes. That was texting me actual keep that going. Hopefully and just talk about the shitty pitchers. We used to have. And now they're still shitty on this Michael Pineda's of scien- year. I guess we thought a little salary. Paxton was very good for us. I like him a lot. He's just a cyborg out there. Big big Paxton guy. Did you you said I only saw a little bit in the beginning. So I saw a little bit of packs in and then so how you said if you were in Vegas you'd been streaming the game at the pool party what he did in the ninth inning. We were watching. I have on my phone watching them try to most rally not able to. But I I do not see much Paxton. But from what I did see and just from seeing like, the highlights inbox box stuff did seem very impressed. Yeah. He's just he just a pitcher. He's just a good starting pitcher just going to be reliable guide. Never gonna fuck us. Unless he gets. Well, I was gonna say let's go to Chris now that I feel I feel very comfortable him on the mound. I mean grants. The Baltimore Orioles. But this one two three guesses. John holder was not good in that game. And he was probably left in way too long. So where to go Boone that was cool. They did make that nice run late, but it was too fucking late. But actually started caring about the game. Agassi tool at Homer mayhood, a double even void comes with a single. But and are in her not off to a good start Greenwich through games, but has not looked the best out there. Giancarlo had miserable. At that that that sucked almost a guaranteed to happen. And that's how you lose two three. The Baltimore Orioles. Tough not sees especially after Thursday are so hyped up. Like this team they're hungry from last year. Only one hundred twenty games they're going to win twenty four games going to be easy. He's going to start off, you know, eight and one. What a joke. We were saying what two losses is the minimum for the first nine games. Yeah. We were like seven to anything with Esther. I mean, six three I, you know, isn't the end of the world, but you really wanted to go seventy two after win six on our own out. So now six and three take they they have to mean. The Tigers tiger's any turn six this week. You have to five out of six Tigers of a guy named Turnbull pitching them are who for that Tyson. Ross of the sports action Turnbull. I got score mobile shows Tyson Ross. Okay. Well, whatever I mean, I don't know which ones right doesn't matter. But I think you should they should sweep. I mean, five out of six is what we need this week five six who's the Tuesday pitcher Tanaka Zimmerman. That's. What? Oh, yeah. There was sorry. There was often Friday. I was trying to think how that worked. Yes. Bullpen game on Monday that should be fun with Boone. Sure, he will messed that one up. And it's almost we don't know what to blame anymore. That's the thing. That's what I was going to say it's like. But it's like I also wanna yell at these just faceless nerd sitting in the dugout. I don't know what to call like, maybe we need a new analytics team to sit down there. They should be in the dugout. They should have. They should have a corner in the dugout like just a big comp- like, you know, the computer had on advisors. Yes. You just old computers those? Yeah. Knock out the camera. Well, and that's the analytics corner, and it's just like four guys you went to Harvard just running simulation after simulation. And whatever like a decision goes poorly fans could just tell them with tomatoes. Yeah. All they do is just constantly. They just give thumbs up and thumbs down. The Boone will ask a question. They go. Yes. Right. I don't know who to be mad. I mean like dune I you know, Boone is the easy target. But I get if he's not making decisions, and he also doesn't wanna lose his job. There's wanna stand up to these analytics nerds and tell them what to do. So I don't know. I don't know who to blame but decision making the bullpen decision making has been questionable. Very bizarre. Hopefully, we get out of tomorrow. And he just he just doesn't thing for Chapman. So far good. I will say Canley pitch today didn't go. So well, the start did this thing where he just walked three guys on a road to start the inning. Not the best strategy in the world. David Robinson, love doing that. And then camera woke up the best news of the whole Canley thing though, he's starting ninety miles an hour. So that's that's really what Tommy that's the old Tommy. So we have in back end up Gaddi ending unscathed. It was just who do you need tight rope act. But. Job holder. Not not great Tarpley. Not good everybody else's. Okay. Tigers for three and then in Baltimore, so. Yeah. Five of six should happen. In other news. John sterling missing a game. Did you see this? I saw I mean, I know we joke of us our fault curse. Put can't make this stuff up. Have a guy on thirty goddamn years. He set the miss. I mean, it's not definite. Right. I mean, I think logistically I mean the the game is in the evening early. Granted game is an afternoon. And then at night is the is the thing is the graduation triplets graduation. Yeah. Obviously, he's today off me wanna don't wanna miss it. But there's no issue. There's no other priority. I'm going to my kid's graduation. I think I've earned it any like he he almost missed it a few years ago, but his daughters thing was on an off day. We've been steps the game who's going to do it. That's what I was. Wondering is it will the guess I mean Susan will call a game right now. No Susan's the color the analyst unless they have her do it. But would it be a different job constantly, and maybe Ruko amount of no, you know, owning radio in color, so different. Radio and TV or different. Yeah. But Ruko he did. I mean, I know he did that for them like us able to call right? E I'm sure he he would be able to do it mean. We're available. Yeah. I talk getting what like there's any chance would have. Yeah. John's lay these guys interview those. Yeah. That'd be great. I don't know how it works with like FA N 'cause you know, they're different than the us networks on figured just lend Ryan route go near right, one of its French. That'd be unreal. I've no idea be weirdest health not our fault. It's not a fault. It's not our fault. It's q-quick things. Non Yankee related MLB. Did a good thing in a bad thing this week the incorporated Twitter hitter. I think it's very cool. So basically everyday use is four guys they pick and you vote before the game start whoever wins they show that person's at bats in that game in that game that day on the Twitter feed livestream. You probably the best idea that come come up. It's finally somebody at MLB headquarters took their head of their ass and came up with one good idea. Now, if we could just be able to tweet clips that would really be ideal, but it's a step in the right direction for sure step in the right direction that guy deserved a raise on the foot side. So while they did a really good thing. They countered it with. Maybe the worst idea ever. This is not a joke. This isn't from the onion. This isn't a satire thing. They reward the team that spent the least in arbitration with a WWE heavyweight championship style belt. A real belt give it's what I completely missed. You got see this blog on Friday, basically, they're they're from the onion positive. It was an athletic article. They send over it was the talk of like mean fights were talking about the comments on this block. I did. Seems like it. I didn't do anything though. Oh. Whatever there are none. But it does. Usually it'll say zero finished are whatever it doesn't matter. But there were definitely comment's. Definitely saw the comments. There were comments on that. But anyway. But yeah, they were ward them with a championship belt for for saving the money in arbitration. I think it's. I'm speechless. It's almost like they know they're going to strike, and they're just like fuck it. Let's piss off. Everybody is like, yeah. It's coming. But fuck fuck all the players. It's I I'm like, I'm stunt war site. The worst ever was it supposed to be a secret and it got out fake so thick. So that you can't make that up. It's. That's the worst idea ever made in the history of ideas. The worst. Like, I don't know how this strike is gonna work. I soon they go to some sort of court and figure it out. That's gonna be the quickest decision ever like. Hey, all right. We'll be how do you feel you being treated? What's what's going on here? How you feeling? Yeah. They login. We celebrate being cheap. With a fuck and championship though. Okay. No. It's rule favor. The players and thank you. I think a lot of fans were weird strikes. I think typically fan side with the owners more they think all these players get paid enough. I think in this case with baseball was starting to lean more that fans signed with the players. This definitely is a helps the players case in terms of you know, who the fans are gonna be with. I don't I actually can't believe they're playing baseball right now like that they should've it should've been an immediate strike technically Conan. But I would have that is the biggest slap in the face you can possibly make. Established astonishing couldn't I like literally spent ten minutes making sure it was a real story. I mean, just saw meet on able to process that. Yeah. Absolutely insane. God damn, okay. Do everything else. The show don't think. So. Yeah. All right. Well, winning baseball games. Yeah. I mean and the Red Sox stink. They they're starting pitching. I don't know what they're doing. But we can capitalize any of that. Also, another thing last year is every time it felt like a night the Red Sox off the loss to. Yeah. I mean sale couldn't have looked worse. I'm not I think he'll be fine. And people are always ninety to figure it out. I assume when he signed his big contract extension. They did a full physical. And they figured everything was okay. I I did that. So I think he's he's fine physically. I think you've all these not going to be good this year. I just don't. Fuck that guy this. He's not he's not the Cy Young pitcher that he was then a year. He's me more of the guy. We saw Seattle couple days ago getting shelled. I think he'll be more of how he was with the inky. Yeah. Existent flashes of brilliance together. Right. But other other days like like yesterday. I think it'll be a mix of both. You know, he was fourteen and three with us in her first year with him. I didn't know he's fourteen and three hit a four year. Right fourteen. Yeah. I that. I remember. He was he won a lot. I think crazy around support. Yeah. Then wins the losses. The worst thing. You can judge. I just saw fourteen years. What I would remember that. Yes. It'd be nice to capitalize on that. While they're out in the west coast losing. But of course, the or thing maybe it's a good thing. We Orioles six games start. Because then you don't we don't play them. You know, we're just getting it out of the way or. Yeah. It's like the toughest part like work work hard play will get get through the Orioles. And then finally, you know, hopefully, pick up some wins like ripping abandoned off. That's Orioles those there's fucking nets. So frustrating. A microcosm of this whole weekend. With the Yankees was out a bar Saturday night. And I've since the lead this tweet because I was just embarrassed when I woke up I was like can't believe his real. I mean, we were out with a lot of people actually was dancing with a girl that just never happens like ever. But. It was like, hey, you wanna you wanna get drink take the bar, whatever. She she's like, let's do shots in my head. I'm like, I I actually hate you. I want you to die. So I'm like sure what he want. She was tequila. Casa migos. I'm like, all right. It's classy least you still psychopath. You were shots at the bar. Fuck you unless they're your bombs, my me, and my buddies do we still pretend eighteen years old. But I mean, your shots the bar this point in your twenty five Woody fuck you door. So she's like, oh, you gotta order to more. My friends are coming. Okay. Four kill shots. Friends. Never come. So it's just this fourth Gill shots there. I think I might have audited at one point. Oh, it's tell them to. She goes. No, no. We'll do double. I now I want you actually get hit by a car now. I don't do shots. I. So take one and while she's taking the second one. It poured out for the second one out and like, oh, great. We tequila shots. And then it hits me. Oh, you're actually enthrone everywhere Zik sterile idea because I keep mine. This is like midnight one AM one AM one AM, and I've been drinking to nine at the Anki game. You've been drinking all day. So finally, my body just happy and was like buddy that you can't you shouldn't have done that as terabyte so say sorry dance for got around the bathroom quick definitely not throwing up said in my head and said the her I make it two steps down. I don't know where we were a two steps down. And I go to cough, just throw up like thoughts the worst its worst. And one guy was like what the fuck. I just threw my mouth, basically, it's all over my wrath Arain quarters that is so nice birthday gift for my mom's real nice and went into a stall the throw out the rough run core. Really sad. And the nice corns. Gotta get a new one. And a funny I were turned back to the dance floor, and she was gone funny. How that will? Yeah. Great funny that works. So I'll say I am at a point where I deny shots like me. That's even worse Friday night. We were at this place cat like this nice restaurant. And if you know Brian Axelrod, but he's like been a catch the been the cash there's one of the city. He's like a connection to barstool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he knows people at catch. So he had like e said over it wasn't there. But he had told the place to send over shots that guys over person in the world. Oh, yeah. He's he's the guy. That knows the guy. He's the most serious thirty for thirty on him. Yeah. He so he was sending over shots and stuff, and he settled were like eight of us see sends over these eight whiskey shots just said, no my worst ever experienced with drinking was whiskey. So if I even get a whiff of it, I just can't do it. So I had no problems. Be like, no, I have not. I am not doing this right now. I just did not Chris. I'm not a good. Yeah. Whiskey? Anyway, I don't think anything just don't give me a shot bunny beer. You said your what was your bathrooms with Frankie? We I think we may have been drugged on a night because we both. I mean, we were obviously we were at the club or drinking. But you know, I've been drunker before and I've been having stomach problems recently too. So I think it was sort of a mixture of that be a we both just got back to our room Friday. We were like we'd a sweep meet him were sharing a room within it as we had our own bathroom. It was a goddamn mess. He was he was throwing up in the toilet. I'll start up in the sink. I one point didn't make it. So I got a little bit on the corporate. There was some of the bathroom door. It was on the floor. It was a mess. He storing up in the toilet while you're throwing up in the sink at the same time. No it wasn't simultaneous. He would go. He would go and throw up in the toilet. And then like a little bit later. I went was throwing up on the secular. It was tough. What the fuck? I don't know. But and then I was fine. The next morning. Early was totally like was like totally just meet thrown up from drinking because I would have been I think in worse shape, Frankie, either not good. No. He's most pal person ever seen my life. It was concerning. How is he at the pool fine? I mean, just I just hired. We drank a little bit at the pool. But not there was no way. I was going to be able to to do that again and the whole KB thing. What was that like? Kaby is just he's a wild card. He's the definition of wildcard. I mean there were times this weekend. So we're at obviously, the whole thing getting kicked out of the hotel Friday Friday night, we're at Omnia nightclub. We got a table and key was using fallen asleep there. Go sit next to cut a fallen asleep. All of a sudden, I blink my eyes. He's got just gone no idea where he went doesn't come back as well. That's the end of Kate will just never see him again. But it was there Saturday. And then last night we ended up we didn't make it out. But I wake up to a text from TV. That's like you guys out like about and he tells us today. Okay. He just went out his meets goes out. He's just like, it's great. I I've never seen. Someone just meet so many people it just doesn't know and just enjoys life. I mean envy, but he he's a while. But I like, he's a nice guy. That is my worst. Nightmare is like to go out alone and meet people too. It's like the worst the last thing next to take him to to keel shots in a row would be to just go out my own and have a time out have time with myself and other people like I like being alone. I'm saying like going with what are you supposed to do at a bar alone was a meat. He's people. I don't know. Sure is blog on Monday will be very funny. Yeah. But. Yeah. Oh, short porch. People I met on Saturday. Love you guys. That was awesome. Those are cool out you guys setup. We are trying to bounce around the every bar. I never been dug up before they tackled Delon there. I did not know that she. No, this is a Taco Bell dug out. That's like further down. Right. Yeah. There's a Taco Bell like like window like within the within the bar. It's very cool. Billy's was pop and Billy's MS of good fucking time. Stands we got there early time swish. They want. Shiloh bells. I got that for lunch. It was the best sandwiches. Just incredible every time, and that's pretty much it, man. That's all she wrote. We're looking to get a pretty pretty big guest for Thursday's that should be a lot of fun. If we can actually work that out you might be coming into the studio which be so look forward to that. We got the let's let's let's just beat the Tigers commits to win three against the Tigers make everything better five out of six. That's the motto for the week six Essex. Nothing less have that mentality and just fucking kill everybody. Fucking orioles. That's report. We'll see there's a there's a John sterling you've been listening to short porch. Byproduct of barstools.

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"Good evening blue jays fans and welcome to another lovely episode of jaybird watching fellas. We got a heck of a symbol here tonight. We are literally all the old jay's journal guys all one place again as we have already sapiro joining brennan panic. Our and myself. Greg bourne gentlemen. How are we doing this evening. Other than terribleness. That's going up. Yeah not too bad. Not true not feel really feeling proud canadian now man canadian eight opposite right now and angry. Not gonna lie anyways. But we're going to talk baseball on this show. We're not gonna do political other job site so fellas let's dive right in on the air because you know there is some things that we would like to talk about and blue land things are looking up hence the name of the tonight's episode or in the quote unquote hurry up and wait stayed because nothing seems to be happening and this is all offseason in general baseball across wouldn't be damned. Whatever it might be there is not been any big moving pieces other than the quote unquote redo for the whole sandiego padres roster over the past week but Let's start off with our guest here. Are you shapiro. George springer has quote unquote been offered a aggressive Package from the blue jays. He was looking for thirty mil a year and was hoping for at least a hundred and fifty over five years i believe the tickets so the quote unquote offer is aggressive. But not that. What do you think are shooting at you. It's not not that anyone should really be surprised right. I mean after the season did even though it was nice to taste the playoffs. And i say it'd have very very delicately because the truth is we all know that the team under regular normal format would not have made the playoffs. This was a rare opportunity to to maybe see what this young court do and even though it was a disappointing outcome you learn from disappointment. You hope that every team that you assembled with the roster can take something from any stretch of mediocrity or failure And when you're talking about george springer of talking about a player that will instantly give you the kind of credibility you need and of course if you're not going to give him a serious offer then you just can be blowing in the wind. Doing this thing that the blue jays are doing where you know Ross atkins like to say worry alexei. We're gonna make a concerted effort serious. This offseason you want to be taken seriously. You want to be taken seriously. Make a serious offer. Especially for the kind of player that you know has the on-base percentage the back control. I mean he he does strike old. We all know absolute baller with with with his use of the bat power and and the fact that he's got great instincts and honestly i don't know about you guys but the only thing that makes me cringe about him is his association with the houston astros because my my personal feelings with him are that you know if you're going to go after a player and he played it and yeah he's a world series champion winner but with the good old fashioned asterisk of cheese in my books. So you know what i like tossing out the the propaganda and saying that actually trying to get him but the truth is you consider what the stock is for player of his caliber and the fact that there was talk. Green on dj lemay. Who which we know is just fabel fable land fairy tales but still if this team really wanted to show fans they were serious to compete in this upcoming post pandemic incarnation. I don't even know what to call it anymore. You want to compete in two thousand twenty one go players. That will make you a better team today. Rather than having to sell the bill of rights for the future bill of goods. I sit bill our. Where's my head. Pick the ball up there and run with it. Yeah sure i I it's tough to know with this office. What a competitive offer is right because there is a whole rumor that they gave an offer to kim which we dissect it last week At like to me a competitive offer for springer display of his caliber. Who's really good. Player was also thirty one and play the outfield So he's on the wrong side of thirty five million per year so if they went out and gave him an offer of one twenty five over five. This pretty damn good. And if i were springer it'd be like well if nobody comes in beats that offer in the next few weeks kinda wanna know where i'm going to be playing share so i might take that offer personally guys. The max i would go for. Springer is probably one thirty over five and that's twenty six million per year on average think anything higher than that is a considerable overpay but at the same time that might be what they have to do to secure george springer Because look i soon as he's close to a decision whether it's him going back to the blue jays and saying pretty sure we're gonna take your offer Which also means like in the real estate world. I'm gonna go call other agents and try to drum up another offer. That's better than that. I'm sure the mets will swoop in if the blue jays offers at five and be like we'll give you one fifty over six or when fifty over seven. Would you take that if we give you. Your dollar amount jessop spaced over a longer period of time so yeah i think the offer was probably around there. I would have a hard time believing that a competitive offer is hanover five. I think that's a low for a player sprayers caliber especially when you consider re you got twenty per year and i know he's had an injury history as a pitcher And he is a little bit older. But still i think. Twenty five mil for springer whereas we need for him in the outfield. I'd pay that. I'd go a little bit higher if that's what it would take but i'm not sure how much higher i go adam. Yeah i think the the offer was probably around one twenty five over five to me as bluejays written all over it. It's a bit conservative But at the same time That's aggressive in terms of relative to the blue jays right I do think though. I we touched on this before i do. There's an element that the maybe his representation is using the blue jays leverage in order to be to put the mets in a precarious situation where they have to pay a little bit more. And i think the the new ownership there is so the chances of him landing on the jays i think diminishing daily and I don't think that one twenty five over five isn't something that new york can't match. And in fact i think they'd be eager to i think it's going to take a hundred and fifty million dollar contract in order for him to play in toronto and if toronto wants to pay that is not my money. I mean i don't care you could for me. It's not like you will get production out of that at least in the beginning. Half if you if come year four year five. He's sort of wash the price you pay. I mean that's just the way baseball has been going when signing free agents you regret it towards the end not in the beginning. Hopefully so for me. It's if we're gonna fuck it on. Let's just go for. I don't care if it's it'd be signed. If he settles for one forty over five or one forty six fuck it. I don't care that's fine with me it just at the end of the day. It's just money for me. I think this team needs to sort of put up at this point. We've said it in tech on. They need to be aggressive right. And i think they're well aware of the fact that there are limitations being a team that has difficulty signing free agents. And so they're going to have to up. That's just the name of the game and if they want to field a competitive right now especially given the fact that the red sox are sort of on the outs. The orioles are team that you know otherwise me mentioning isn't a thought. The yankees could have their team in disarray and the raise although we still find them low key scary. They have has some subtractions from that. We might be able to capitalize on so right. Now is the time to do it. And if it's one fifty over five fine sign me up. I don't care it's just me. So i'm going to give a shout out to bernie time on our youtube channel. That's actually listening. Live isn't toll. Agreeance to you with you. Adam blue day the other having overpaid to bring george springer in on this Whole blue jays thing and right now. I'm kind of wondering if the blue jays actually gave now that. I finally have somebody here. I can have reading conversation cheating thing. I already made me. That's cheating penalty. You fuck your five million deal with it. Yeah it's I think it's kind of sad to that. We were all aware that is I think you mentioned the brendan. He's thirty one years old. There's nothing quite like talking about a free agent. Pick up with players past his prime which is not to say. Get have great years but as a defender. He's lost a step. He's he's i think just lightly above average. He's in that kind of danger zone. Where a couple more years and he'll go from being regarded as some the as a guy you might want to put to the know right or left if need be or d. h. Talented guy but again. It's like you said at him. You gotta pony up the money and at this stage in the game excuse. You're the only canadian team where you've got limitations. For god's sake when you got ownership talking about demolishing the arena developing real estate and talking about changing the way. It's played here. At least at least you can do misspend a little little bit to get the key. Players you need. And this team could really benefit instantly with with george springer in the lineup. So if it's a and if it's going to be about five million or ten dollar or excuse me ten million per year you're going to ask you is what's the priority like what are you. What are you trying to do. Do you want to build a real contender or you just want to get some lines and it had potentially be exactly that are in know. It is the biggest free agent on the market right now. That is seem to put up on the marquee flag vo and busy. Oh right there and then obviously along with the rest of the company with you and everybody keeps the nucleus how to win. Just don't mention how you did it a couple years ago. You know what i'm saying. Yes think about it right. You're going after guy that you're you're you're saying is a champion yet. You know that He was part of that noxious culture and don't get me wrong. I'd like to think that springer wrongs what from partially from puerto rico panama panama. I think he's got an interesting kind of exotic lineage. That goes with it and so it's great because he's representing multiple cultures but unfortunately he represented the worst culture of all which is The cheater and feel very strongly about it simply because it was a kick in the teeth earlier. In the year when you know the culprits associated with it are now employed again being aj hinch ankara so spring. You're probably really distanced himself from that. Is telling you let them know great. I am and i won honestly and look at my numbers and his numbers don't lie. He's been very consistent. There's nothing something that really flies out at me. Other than the fact that i still can't believe that There's such a difference between you know. Strike oaten and and walks he. He's becoming more and more of an elegant kind of player played but then he'd fit in nicely with teams so while he's kobe. Rasmus us when it comes to fraud walks for strike. We're going to have a little chat tonight. We got to bring you know the great thing somehow clueless. He seemed during he like. We talked about in more. We analyzed more death. You think about it. But in the end he'd get interviewed like trading bubble gum and going. I just baseball ignored. Meanwhile everybody else on his beards easily got still. I probably got the knack for thing. Going on and right now is in the. Where are they now category. So i guess it is. What exactly it means. That men with beards are doomed to mediocrity per se because a stone cold mediocre player. But what would heard about him remember. He had those couple of weeks. Where every so often shop. And just start slugging. And you'd be like. Oh my god look at natural god given talent. Why can't you be the natural. I can't you be robert. Redford you know babe ruth if he'd lived lucky for which is like bad athletic. A guys historians for legendary. Because he was as i steer ari off of colby rasps. Get off everybody. Anybody wanna wrap up on this whole george springer thing and i know we talked about it extensively on this show on how this is perfect fix for the blue jays and whatnot. Obviously i don't know. How much is this. A failure on the blue jays. Not throw him the exact off earth. This is actually how major league baseball three inch see. Margaret is actually shaping up because in all reality. We haven't heard that the mets are all of a sudden gone. Oh yes i the way. Here's forty year. Just impact your bags you know. I doubt anybody's really. I was actually surprised when i heard that. Five for one. Hundred and fifty mil initially. I don't know if he's really worth it. And there's a lot of these things that collective gang here has been talking. Adam do you see. I think bluejays would have to give him that deal to finally ensure that he puts on a you know the new powder blues. But are you there that you have to do this or you think. The blue jays probably in that lake won twenty five. One twenty ballpark is more safe. I'll let you pick this one up. Oh it's safer but you have to do it. It's no secret. Like i've already said it's difficult for free agents to come to toronto with for the blue jays whether it's forbes and i don't really know about hockey so whatever but when it comes to you know crossing the border i it's difficult and that's not an insult to toronto. The name of the game and if you want to field a competitive team without sacrificing some of the minor league talent that you have the trade some of the major league talent that you have i e lord gorell you have to pony up. And we've we've talked about this ad nauseam. The team is in a great position when it comes to financial there one of the only teams in baseball. That didn't lose. The the ratings from rogers went sky high during season right so they gained money and the they had a cushion there to be able to to allocate those funds however they please right and so if if you have the money to do it in your already the richest team in baseball even before the pandemic your richest ownership in baseball you have no excuse. You absolutely have zero excuse not to do this over one. Fifth year over five people are gonna call an overpay. The it will happen. Analysts are going to say. This is bad for the blue jays bubble. Don't care what i know. What's great for the blue jays. Fan appreciation wanna know what's great for the blue jays revenue wanna know what's great for the blue jays people buying jerseys and i understand you have people right now. That are so excited. With the youth movement boba shat vlad. Get it. I'm there kevin video. He's my guy. Everybody knows it but the thing is is that george springer jersey sales are gonna go right down in there yes it. It was one for christmas. You don't have an ice officers anymore. He's gonna make jersey. The numbers get someone. They released real jersey by that one on top of the duct tapes swore guy end of the day. This is a smart business. Move for the blue jays and they're going to make that money back. It's whatever at that point. They're going to make that money back. Tenfold when it comes to revenue from jersey sales when it comes to new ballparks when they open doesn't matter it's gonna happen so i'm not worried about the money i don't care one fifty over five. Two thousand twenty one baseball. That where we at this this is somehow overpay. No not at all. I don't care. Just give me something to be excited about. Because he has potential. But this team isn't world series capable right. Now you put george springer on the team. Maybe that alone doesn't make them world series capable but god damn their playoff capable and if their playoff capable. That makes me excited. I'm gonna watch round watch. It's going to be great. All i want to play baseball. Put your spring on the team. Mega happened one fifty over five. I don't care my only fear is is that one fifty five still doesn't get it done for him to come to toronto. I feel that's a price set or the mets or the red sox are whoever to go to and be like i will sign the dotted line right now. One fifty five with the new york. Mets offer me where the blue jays came to me. I feel like what's that little bit more. I gotta canada. Or i don't know where i'm going to be playing twenty. Twenty one fell. I dunno wonderful. And we're gonna win a super bowl. Come on bombs. Playing buffalo in a minor league park hit bind a one year deal with us in buffalo is any contract you can ask or look i. If what we're saying is i'll just money. I believe the blue jays feel that way to like. Surely if springer's can't came to the blue jays a week or two from now after not getting much much action to be like guys if you came to a need us we will sign the dotted line. Right on will not go round other teams. You gotta feel. They do that just to get him in the building. I'm just not so often. That one fifty over five is it will take for the toronto blue jays assignment because of the candidate factor because of the fact. They don't know where they're playing because of the fact so many other reasons that people are scared with rana even though everybody ends up loving it after they played for even two months two months of david price in effect topless at state. I think price would have resigned. So people have nothing but good things to say about it. So take a risk in calm but yeah i. I'm scared that doesn't get it done for the blue jays. Where does for the mets for the red sox for others. I gotta disagree i. I think that it's the one twenty the rumored one twenty over five is for other teams. I think one fifty over five is the rumored price for the blue jays as you know. I think it's going to create and again you are you in brennan the tax equivalent. Here i and i don't really know much about it. But maybe one fifty over five and cad balint to one twenty five over five in usd. I don't know or maybe it's close to it. I don't know but at the. I think it's going to cost that. Extra twenty five million contract revenue for him to come and if that means one fifty over five. I mean this is. The contract is the contract for his career at this point. He's never going to make as much money potentially as he can over the next four or five years as a result. So you've gotta figure that he's going to go as you mentioned earlier. Adam and brandon elaborated on the fact that he's going to be looking for a a true true home run of an offer that he can say. I i didn't do it for the money. But i did it because i want to place where we wanna play. Is that toronto. I dunno not not being pursued by some of these higher tier league teams. And i'm sure the presenting it as like look at our nucleus lou. You're going to be playing with you. Know we have a potential home run champion next to you in the outfield and we have eight nucleus of a shot in guerrero junior ambitious and whatnot. I'm sure that will impress. But don't forget he's already won the world series. Maybe he's gonna do it just for the money you know if i were player. Who's already got the world series in my pocket. Then i wanna go to an organization where i can be very very comfortable and i don't know if you know the toronto options very attractive hasn't been is the reason why we've lost a lot of free agents and many more that except for that weird ricciardi stretch we. We just picked up guys left right and center network point. Bj ryan scott rolling. Like what the hell was going on. But those that's right but he was charged because he needs to win and he wasn't winning whereas now the blue jays where's the desperation like honestly whereas the desperation had can seems like he's going to be general manager for the next forty five years. I don't send jobs and until i feel. I don't think he's going to go meals on that note to the retarded era was known notoriously for being pretty much the worst traffic all all baseball. Better part of eight years talking about our top prospect or at least three of those years was the lunchbox. Zero travis travis. Snider wasn't the next best gift. The blue jays as but in typical toronto fashion. He got if you remember. He got absolutely ran down our throats and i hated that athlete. And you're young player and you wanna prove yourself to the fans. You don't need the media setting that standard you most of the time. You won't reach it. I mean how many announced just show up and get it done. Look at look black. An example grow junior shows up first day in camp. Everyone's like look at fatty delegate. But but that's literally what's happening. Everybody was using like different adjectives to describe the fact that the kid was out of shape and i had to do is look with your bow cheese as they say in some languages. You're and if you're wearing glasses like you are. Craig you can see very clearly what you've got and the media did a huge disservice because by if you look at it as as at times major league service. He's actually doing if you didn't have those expectations. Say this is a promising player. But now we're anti better prove himself. It's a waste of our time. And i'm like no it's not it's not costing you. What it should you invested in. You've got him at least what twenty. Four twenty five years old so why not surrounded with players. That will protect him in. The lineup pitchers figured him out some protection. That's what spirit can be. Springer can be ridiculous protection to make sure the black gets quality visa. You guys but that's what. I would get him for chaperoning to spend time with teaching him the way to play good honest basil or salt right on it. I i can't keep doing it is As as always throwing slight grenades at everybody. Don't worry about it. So but gentlemen i'm gonna move on. Because it's all in agreeance about the whole george springer thing that it's gonna take a little bit extra for the blue jays finally took the nail on that In turn that up in the roster but moving along to somebody apparently we have made really good offer to and apparently according to what brennan panic cards rick before we went on the air this evening rondo or back to japan for tomioka sugano. I don't know what the contract suggest skies but if they made an offer this is a guy that wore alaska's masahiro tanaka are we getting cheaper then. Masahiro tanaka would be i. Guess the only question Who would like to take the lead on this whole idea. What do you think it takes to get this done if we get him out. Those toasting beats all all say is that Will that I'll give him a shout-out what's his Handle at underscore Underscore that you guys have seen him on your feeds before. But he said that the jays offer isn't where he would like which is why it's between going through going back to japan But it's the best that there is. According to this article which is a japanese outlet. That's reporting it's called the page So easiest expanding on the article on rosenthal's report so the whole thing that we've seen with sugano is that he hasn't got installed the love that he thought he was going to get when he came over here got posted by giants over in japan. So that's why he's leading towards going back and maybe trying again next year two years from now to come back to the major league so i i don't know i don't know is expecting to get i don't know i haven't seen any sort of rumors dollar figures tossed around the sugano so like my guest. Obviously he's more highly touted in better regarded than yamaguchi was like. I can't imagine the blue jays offered that much better than yamaguchi's like kind of similar ish. But i i have no idea. I can't speak to knowledgeably to there. Hasn't been too much reported on dollar figures amounts by it does seem like it's bluejays or nothing at this point which i guess is encouraging anytime it also seems like it's bluejays by default because nobody else is calling if nobody else. Is there to run against you win. He still like. I was playing Failures i was all by myself. What i want. Just saying But i agree with you brandon. That is probably in that same. Poll has gotta be a yamaguchi type contract and per our conversation last week with kim in the blue jays not giving the guaranteed league thing. I don't think that this is going to be one way or the other is a minor league deal. I think very similar. I was surprised that they even brought you gucci up with the team this year and i think in a covert were code world. He probably was playing in buffalo A lot of the young players that we have the other catch on this whole thing with us. God knows he's thirty two years old. Is somebody really willing to throw high end money and somebody has never pitched a game in major league baseball when there is the quote unquote gentlemen that comparing him to any on this free agent market in march two hero tanaka. At least you know what you're going to get from tanaka yes there's gonna be some injuries but when he's out there he's gonna pitch great baseball. Yeah in fairness you brought up a point about about him in fairness i we sort of have to walk that back because according i think jason lee posted this but it has been reported that they walked back the notion that it was a minor league. They refuse to give him. The miami exemption is apparently they were willing to do it. And if that's the case and it was just a preference thing right or maybe they weren't promising every day playing time like being the the starting but they were willing to give him the the clause in the contract saying you don't have to go to the miners that that's just a side. Note that being on that I i think that you might have a point when it comes to the minor league deal for this contract or maybe just again play in toronto. And this is maybe used as leverage from zion. Somewhere else or maybe it's used as leverage to the blue jays. Say look up your offer. I'm going back to japan. Maybe they're trying to put them in a state of panic on either way in this particular situation. There's a decent amount of unknown. And there's a decent amount of risk that you're putting in unlike george springer because you know the product that you're getting or you think you do when it comes to translating from japan over just the mlb. It's really hit or miss more often than not. It depends on the price point that you're willing to pay and again before it came to springer. I said it's just money but again you sort of have a good idea to what you're getting so when it comes to this contract i would say the bluejays stick to your guns man. Don't overpay sixty years. It seems like you're in the driver. See on this seems that way unless the rangers wanna sign them and they're you know they're pretty good at signing international japanese free agent pitchers so if they are able to do it then cool but if the blue jays are the best offer on the table when he goes back to japan you can say hey we were the best offer he just. It's nothing we did wrong. He just doesn't wanna play here. At which point i give them a pass. That's fine deal. Are you on rap. Anything on that or you go. Well i find that. Correct me if i'm wrong. So we have some excitement around these parts tanaka when the sweepstakes for his services became available. Wasn't there this perception that maybe the blue jays might pull a rabbit out of their hats. do especially darvish but i remember. There was a profound sense that they were legit in their interest and came close on both occasions in terms of getting their attention. And i'm thinking to myself. This is a japanese field on that has stood the test of time. I mean not a big boy. you know. He's like six foot one six. Two's of two hundred pounds he's got. He's got a kind of were to his his regimen and clearly he is overcome A serious injury and become Pitched a no hitter. i think in twenty eighteen. We're talking about a guy who's got a forkball and two different fastballs and that's fascinating to me. Because he's the kind of pitcher after what we're you did. An in showing that an international player can step in and and captivate an audience. Why not take this pitcher. Why not plug him in and see what he could do knowing full. Well that at worse. You've got a hell of a pr story that you can capitalize on talking about the multicultural nature of these of this jays team And then there's also the fact that Lost opportunities are going after internationally available players. I have no problem with thirty one thirty two year old pictures. I have more of a problem with a thirty one year. Old centerfielder being locked in for five years then. Now whatever couple of years bluejays mike throw at So i i wouldn't. I wouldn't mind cigar a being mentioned in the mix. Because i think that it's on the pitching. The blue jays could really surprised people next year. And the more the merrier in that regard. Why not take the risk. Maybe you're going to miss out. Spend the money on some of these other interesting free agents and give your team a chance to come in with a different flavor. I love japanese pitchers for some reason. They just strike me as being very studious very focused and by all accounts. If you look at sukarno's resume. I mean what like career walks per nine innings. Bring it on my kind of pitcher. That's right the mentioned. It sounds like from everything. I've been here especially in baseball. A hot gas the other day they were talking about Sugano extensively and work ethic. Is the roy. Halladay like Work ethic in the locker room. And it. I don't care who it is at that point. If you're bringing somebody in like that it just makes everybody wants to outdo each other. I think a little bit in the locker room. If he's working that hard. How can i get on that and bring the team up collectively those guys. You want to bring into your dugout and build that. That work ethic. Which i think is already a major improvement with what's going on in the house. In the chemistry we have already compared to any blue jays team. Probably in the last decade least absolutely. You just reminded me of jimmy key in that regard for some of the faithful who are of a slightly more mature persuasion and probably a beards men and women alike. You grow old enough to remember those guys and what you described reminds me more. Jimmy key was very cerebral. Pitcher who on the surface was what small had a very tight. Compact wind up is crafty any. He knew how to throw that. That curve ball in off speed pitch in from what i understand sedano has this amazing repertoire pitches lineup bring it in and see if you can fool some of these american league hitters by keeping them balanced especially if you get a guy like pearson being healthy and throw nearly hundred miles an hour This guy apparently hit ninety eight early on instill hits ninety six. So i say bring it on at the mention that whole thing that you just match up there. The fact that you have a veteran like do gado who actually does know Regardless of where and all that kind of stuff what if he teaches nate pearson how to throw a ball and just imagine that thing engine in straight and gone. Good luck getting. I think it'll take a wicked bend. If he's something around ninety that stuff at treves right there. Glad you had to pull up my heartstrings. Apparently jimmy key now. I m i can meets hitters if you watch some of his footage online youtube. Whatever you you'll see that. He has a saint. Powerful sinker gets a lot of ground ball contact. That's a great way to test your infield to prove that you're championship caliber because of a huge achilles heel for this blue jays team. So maybe that's the reason they won't take him is because they're worried how many ground balls. But like i said it's the control right right you've always been. Always been a big proponent of walks over strike of like to see less walks. You're not as worried about the sexy. Strikeout their powerful the strike zone. Baseball is the great equalizer. Not if you want to put the ball in play so you don't have to face another hitter behind you. And that's where guideline kim could really keep hitters off bounced in the in the american league. Rem durham fan of sorry draw. Baltimore demographic dumped him a demo product especially ladies underwear. so it's all it's all a matter of perspective full if boulder and taught us anything. It's that superstitions. Go a long way. But he started believing in yourself. That's all that matters whether or not you do it. Because you're following baseball goddess or maybe just taking a risk on a japanese pitcher that happens to be available in a year where he could fly under the radar. Go for you got nothing to lose. What's the worst that happens. You know they invest a little bit of money in him. He doesn't work out at other prospects in that regard but right now but the teach- team how to shag fly balls turn double plays in for the love of god. Stop causing these brain aneurysms. We have from watching the tomfoolery. What they did in the playoffs. Talk throwing away the biscuit many times did we cringe watching it so like i say can with him. But but it's worth doing to develop your team and turn it into a real contender gulf south. Anything else before. I move onto somebody way. It looks like we might actually be throwing money at and successively throwing money at brenes over your like shaking ready to go on this whole thing and just so i'm gonna let you take kicked off. Run it but i'm do mean five seconds lee gin all right so liam hendriks former blue jay liam hendriks his return tour which we all know the most recent blue jay to do a nice retune return to her to toronto is j. hat attic. It's the best. I think stint arrested extended success of his career in his second stint with the toronto blue jays liam hendriks might be apparently very very close to signing with the blue jays as solidifying the back end of our bullpen. Which right now is more. Or less jordan. Romano and i forget the other gills events that is a heck of a tandem. I think after what we saw from the up and coming return of the two major league baseball and what we have. Been seeing and a resurgence or what we thought we were really going to get. From jordan reminder as an incredible possibility at the back into the toronto blue jays bullpen. liam hendriks. Visited denise which at brennan. I'll let you give your little tidbit heroes fund. That drives must've been for him and it wasn't a happenstance. Go ahead and pick that up my friends too far drive. Man he was going from fort myers to dunning and that isn't a short drive. It's not something you just be like. Hey i want to show up at the blue jays facility and take a look at it like that's address so look i did some digging into it after the first thing came up and I think he is close to making a decision. Because i forget who said. I think susan's lahser One of as beat writers or somebody in the oakland area saying that hendrix made it clear from the beginning that you elicited but the teams that he would is legitimately interested in. He was going to go. Take an in person meeting facilities and stuff so The only one that we know of so far is going to netting and probably a little more convenient than going to arizona for meeting with the white sox are up to chicago or wherever one thing i didn't know guys is liam hendriks. Wife is canadian from montreal. So there is not know that either that came about on twitter. The other day When the whole hendrick story was around. And i think it was in. Dvd's piece so there's some comfort there In the other thing that i read in terms of him going around and doing in meeting in person with some of these teams he's legitimately interested in is once he's done all the meetings him and his wife. We're gonna talk about it and it seems like it's a true about where they're gonna go so luck. I don't know if you see the political climate right now. going on. let's go back to canada. please imagine he's australian. For christ sake so i just wanted to be able to see next time i i found like the only buffalo bills are in all of australia somehow by happenstance. That's a good story. I'll tell you after the show brand adam but needs to know that We've been talking about the blue jays on an international level at indeed best australian baseball player playing for the trial bluejays right now at least current one anyways and then being able to out that there's just a bunch of crazed blue jays fans literally all the way across the globe. That one time. I really i love that part of it and not to mention the fact that is. I'm now if he actually met his wife while there is i. Yeah possible that level of detail on it but shirley already is helping and remember the last time he would have been playing for the team and being in spring training. He wouldn't have seen new updated facilities so he's probably a little blown away with what they've done the place so look hendrix in two thousand nineteen was almost worth four wins for reliever i think fan graphs hamid three point nine. That's unheard of for a reliever like that's getting close to ganja type numbers when gandhi young back in all three so at even this past year in only the six games that they played. And i can't remember how many hendrix's and i think-i was a half an for release like as a pretty ungodly numbers over the last few years. So you you pair hendrix with the lease romano who will come back healthy rumba rookie. Who they said at the last year will be a bullpen. Police say at towards the end the free agency Or just guys like sean reid foley or ross stripling looking at for the first time in years a bullpen. You can go into the season with being like this will one hundred percent be a strength of the team. It's no longer going to be. Yeah we could make it good but we gotta hope and pray that they will actually be no you know your bullpen is going to be locked down ten. Expect back there with those guys. Alls i heard his brennan sick of dumpster diving for relievers. Hey the best thing about this front office died. Relievers has other than jp p howell back in twenty seventeen. Almost everybody else has worked there. Are you look like you're got something on your mind. I'm going to let the. I love listening to beat pete talk about reclamation projects when. We're the team that usually tries to rehabilitate players careers. And they go off and get more money this time. It's like a negative reversal of the neutron flow. Here where inverting edward. We're getting liam hint hendricks he absolutely enters a whole new reality in baseball. I mean i looked at his numbers in the one. That just i can't get over is the fact that the strikeout-to-walk ratio is literally in eric. Gonyea territory and more extraordinary is that I have memories of him for some reason being a very very cool Team player a guy who just was great for an interview. You know born in perth. Australia fans of bonnie blair probably thinking men. That's alone is a reason to take a look at this guy If you're not gonna get springer and you're going to have money leftover. Why wouldn't you go after this player. Ready made what about six million close to six million last year which means it'll take a double that may be the security services can and with dulles in romano remodel not being options realistic as closers. And i do by the way. Hope as you mentioned Craig ba- rookie. I hope he can come back to being anywhere. Near what we hyped up to be. Because i like the playwrights delivering his mechanics but hendrix figured it out and boy. Did he ever figured out in fact if you look at his career you're like man. This guy may be hasn't even peaked yet. So why not. Give him a nice multi year three year deal. Is it too much to give rookie million dollars for three years to reliever in this day and age considering how we treat them and how they regarded while look at his numbers. It was like Like brandon mentioned if you really understand what he brings to the table you can use them in almost any situation but clearly as you're closer he would be sending a serious message. It's late inning. Leads and boy. Did he proved last year. Mean consideration on the top Fifteen of an mvp boating. Who who doesn't wanna go after that when he's available they don't exactly grow on trees. Not you add them up on. This is i. Think is the one trade that the blue jays current management feels like. Screw things up a little bit. Come on we got nothing good for liam hendriks on. We did let him go at adam. Come on this is not like the perfect redemption story that the blue jays is. Get the make that whole bad memory. Go away yes. It's gonna cost a pretty penny but it. It spells perfect. I think in the end of the blue jays. Madrick's yeah. I am with all you got to have him back. I think having a solid bullpen is absolutely crucial especially in the playoffs. We've seen it. Flashback a little bit of ptsd when it came to two thousand and fifteen with royals. That's literally what won them over on us but i look. I don't mind paying hefty penny for an established reliever. I have a problem paying for it for four years though. I don't like for your contracts when it comes to relievers unless you're a saltwater and i'm talking solid closer otherwise if that's what he's looking for i don't know i'm kind of at the point where i'm just like i don't know if i want to have that many years. Locked down for reliever. How often does it work out. It doesn't it doesn't really into production for all four years now. If you're looking to make a legitimate run you have pieces around that on the offense of side sure than you do whatever it takes and you secure that bullpen up at the very least for twenty twenty one but if you can get him out of an option at that point a mutual option. I'm for care about the price. I've been maintaining that this entire. I don't care what you pay when it comes to. Money does not matter. Adam adam you can say he's like the jose bautista of relievers right now right like he figuring nine just like jose did and now you have a choice to pay during his best years. But i agree with you. Is there guarantee after four years that in years three and four in particular like i have no doubt he'll have another good year next year. What a pitchers do start to figure out. And i i agree with you. Be settled with multi year contract on a reliever making double digits that you then could potentially have to give away for for nothing but again are we. Competing are serious student. Want to challenge in the american league. Liam hendrickson no brainer. The meeting with mark shapiro. I would only meet with mark shapiro under one condition and that is to make it clear that my last name is pronounced shapiro. I'm probably getting an offer with the ball club. And i think that's what's going to happen. I think she fire will pull them out and say okay. Listen wife's from montreal you'll bomb carnival. Let's go let's do this. Coast to coast for all fans of jays. Expos ally coming plier craft. Because you're right it's it's it could easily be flash in the pan but look at the last two years ridiculous. I mean who gets thirteen strikeouts. Thirteen strikeouts per nine innings with credibility. And and is it like you know throwing the ball ten feet wide lake. Back in bull durham. So he figured it out. And i figured why not reward him and what a shame to a that he was gone at fifteen because he could have helped him in two thousand sixteen when they continued their quote hopeful. Window of of contention. I missed him. Those playoffs in two thousand fifteen. I totally agree with you. That's what we had silly garbage like What was his name a price being featured in games when he shouldn't be remember when he went when dickie was on that role and all the sudden david price was used in a in a short term reliever capacity even though he was still scheduled to pitch. Like you. don't want that. You want flexibility so bigger liam hendriks is the perfect guy that you can teach your romano's and doses of the world and baroque to be inspired to get back at it because he's a big one man if he works out. Having a lefty with his stuff could be could be a game changer to yup. I wanna throw scenario all gentlemen. Let's say well right now. I'm gonna jump ahead of our schedule a little bit here Jon morosi doesn't think the bluejays are going to get any free aid. So what's this summer for one second if that ends up being where the rest of the Going we know. We're not gonna get springer for not going to get anybody else to add to this and you're looking at this. In hindsight one of the best ways that we could have improved. This club is to throw that brick money at liam hendriks and rear back. this bullpen. if we didn't add a starting pitcher through free agency right okay. Great worst case scenario you are throwing that hold a ton of money at liam hendriks for what's day four years right now. We have worst case scenario. Some really talented young pitchers coming into the starting rotation with that reassurance of having league hendrickson this back in the bullpen with no other additions to our starting rotation adding a leasing lockdown guy that we can leak maybe even stretch to winnings which he used to do a lot when he was pitching with the blue jays. Maybe not so much now in a closer all. How much of key thing do you think that is that. Regardless of money we have to make something like liam hendriks just because all these other free agent off that we could be approving the ball club through do not appear to be materializing any reality level so far. Yeah you might want you go. You have to make a move and at that point i would also say we didn't forget about you man we we. We were always going to sign your tried to. You have to be aggressive at that point. Because that's still doesn't address you're starting rotation it does need in the bullpen. I agree but that still doesn't address an area of neon. So at that point yes i'm throwing the hendrix a pretty hefty contract and again one that you might regret later on but again that's just baseball in twenty twenty one I'm offering time on walker pretty decent contract maybe three year contract. I don't really know about the so i'll to the experts and i tried to make a splash trade and whether or not that's linderoth. Whatever i don't know. But i gotta move something you gotta do something to push the needle because as we discussed here before then trajan class aside from kris bryant. Not really that great not really that great of a class and if your banking on making assigning then you're going to be sorely disappointed so at that point what i would do. Is i try to make as many trades i be graphics and i try to sign walker. I wouldn't be completely satisfied with that. But i'd be okay with it. At least they did something at that point. The better ball club with those guys. Yes yes they look. We just saw this past this past year. And i know that the roster will be different over one sixty two if we do get a full one sixty two but having more guys in the bullpen and more quality arms help shorten the outings for the starters. Now some of the starters. Like tanner roark or chase. Anderson didn't help themselves by goalie. Three innings and four. Just say your rotation is approved a little bit with taiwan walker with robbie ray with thomas hatch whoever it is that if he could get five or six pouting and you have the seventh eighth and ninth to cover you add hendrix on a perfect day. You go. you go ramona in the seventh or lease flip-flop. The eighth with one of those two guys in hendricks comes. Close it out in the nuts and that's a pretty good formula for winning games. It's what the yankees have been doing for the last few years. He ever guys with five or six. You're bringing came kamely. You bring in chad green all these guys vino be no so if the blue jays can come close to that does help starting rotation by adding liam hendriks and away but yeah You need to fill the number two spot right now. that is i know. He's talked at length but the number two spot is the most glaring. Need in the rotation. Bridget from review to the back end of the rotation which could be filled with kids in robert racks. So yeah hendricks and walker would definitely make me feel more comfortable. It would make me feel satisfied on impact trade which. I'm sure we'll talk about shortly. I like the way you think. I like the way you think. Bp because the guy clearly liam figured it out and the biggest difference if you remember when he first came up with the blue jays or whether he was trying to get his career started rather with the blue jays because he struggled with minnesota The biggest challenge for him was he was throwing a lotta sinkers and he goes missing the strike zone and when they were hitting the sinker. Lot of extra-base hits last year. He didn't throw the sinker at all. He now sourcing fastball. Which we hitting two hundred off him and that is his worst pitch like. No one can touch his curveball. No one can touch a slider. They're batting like oh seventy combined. It's obvious that this is a guy who started using his brain and fill out a master control his pitches and i love that. It means he's gone from being i closes. His eyes is is just throws a pitch that he grew up with. Now he's gotta stop and think. How do i get out of the situational situational awareness that i have. Now how do i pitch. So i say to myself the guy ball he's learned and even though his career whip is like one point two eight last year it was like point six seven and i say to myself you know what you you showed it over two years. You did it during a season. come on board. let's do it. I will be more disappointed. If they don't lend hendrix that. I will be with springer springer's and absolute pipedream. I think segawa was like a vanity project potentially depending on how shapira wants to launch the marketing of this team for next year but the bona fide win win. Decision and coarser. I'm with you. I got concerns if it's four years but there are worse things in the world and getting a guy who has demonstrated that he's learned in evolved and at thirty he's mature enough to not ruinous career. Because you know that's tough to play when you're closer than you lose it because that's where you're you're on your own you're embarrassed and it becomes here tells me he's willing to take the challenge of playing for a fan based Struggling suffering wants to see some good some good deleting lockstep more to that point if if if they do give him a four year deal on. It's on the plus side in terms of financials what's the worst that can happen. They he sort of bottoms out in your four. Release them again. It's just money just money you get on that four year thing. What's the worst case. Scenario that he takes a step back. And he's the setup guy and remodel or what we goofed around and make fun with this show john. Foley's the next grade tronto blue jays closer. You know it's ironic. You're laughing about that when they were thinking about that with hendrix last couple of years right there. If you would have mentioned that he would have turned into kind of player that he has said he's the jose bautista of shortening relievers. He figured it out everyone scratching me. How you do it to me. It's truly simple. He stopped throwing the pitch that wasn't working and replace it with the one that is out. That's why i'm confident that he'll get it done especially playing in these american league perks on that subject so i agree with you. I are as far as i think the most realistic people person out of what we have talked about here. Yeah the springer is obviously the as we were arriving move right then this the gano thing. Okay that's a nice upside. Decent risk urged minimal risk at least in the next couple of years and liam hendriks and probably von term. especially when we're looking at teams cancel stituation. Okay twelve million right now. I think that they said the bluejays path the lowest on record payroll right. Now you really want to crack that nut because we'll be here for another hour if we're gonna gain standing you back next week. I guess i'll just so we can talk about where the bluejeans rank in terms of payroll. It's it's shameful and shameless subject at the same time. If you think about it because really at mentioned earlier you gotta spend to show the fan base that has to contend. It's just the nature of the game and quite frankly in a game that has record revenue coming in for lowering. Lowered attendance going into this cova year. Baseball's smarten up and understand that the only way these teams will compete as if the spend money. Because you're not just going to be your bag of tricks and keep grooming bishop every single year. Have they've done a great job in that regard but it came in a very costly price of our patients had sanity. And i'm sick and tired of hearing that kind of that bullshit validation right if ross atkins is the people of toronto. Were gonna compete. We're going to spend then do it if you don't spare the gobbly gook for those down at the us capitol right now you know. He's sitting on the line exactly so here. it is. I change to go tile embarrassment of riches if his name show. I'll keep bringing in every week. You guys let me know. This is a blast. I love it man. The sneaked coarser and be like tubas two girls on the mountain. And you're like the sherpa bringing us into this experience so we can all enjoy it. It's good stuff this week. Actually somebody else so before we got one other elephant in the room that we have to talk about. And i hope it doesn't spiraling more out controlling 'cause we're right around that fifty five minutes point right now will be current show so i happen to be working the other day and i'm listening to the in baseball todd cast in. They had buster only on the show. How weird this offseason bannon. Nothing's happened similar to how we've been kind of beating our you know this whole offseason but thank you blue jays nations for being here with us for a wonderful brand and it got to the point where it getting about. The toronto blue jays is the next up start in the american league period. And how might do the talking baseball gang. There's two yankees fan. Trevor pollutes so just to put that in perspective. And now buster only on this show starting to scare the yankees stands just with what we're talking about on the show on a weekly basis and then he drops this thing. Oh you think that's scary. The blue jays are going to get franscisco. Lynn door or the washington nationals are going door buster only current prediction for what he is saying is an inevitable. Trade pre spring training or during spring training for francisco lindores to leave the cleveland. Whatever is now what the baseball team will come this autumn. And that's a pretty prominent name and now apparently Rosenthal's in that same ballpark. That is trade is going to happen and apparently lee won the front runners in this. Are you guys now back on this hype train for something especially now that. We're not hearing the george springer things are the quote unquote aggressive. Wants to dive on this date. I anybody you're going to. Us shows the toothpaste tee off a little bit for benders greenwich thailand that new fitted smell. You know my position on this hasn't changed and this may be buster only doing some sort of lip service just to get the wheels turning because It's been relatively quiet. Since the padres have made the splash in terms of big names or big named people on the trade docket. Yeah i don't. What does surprise me if he was traded in the offseason. No but i think they might have a little bit more leverage for teams. That are legitimate contention. Come you know the the all star break doors deadline. Look my position hasn't changed what i do. I think he'd be a good fit for the blue jays. Sheriff with a little bit of moving parts here in there shore. But i'm not giving up if there's no extension. I'm not doing it because again. I don't think our friends if francisco indoors. The only thing that this team is adding that is not enough. That is not enough to this world series contending team yes it puts you in the playoffs and yes like just like springer before it's entertaining but if that's the only movie you're making it sound a world series team and i am not giving up the control and the chief contract of lord correal for what will probably end up being a rental this too much anticipation too much. Stop in the notion of but he might resign with us. Because you know he's gonna fall in love with the city and all that. I don't wanna even mess with that if you want correal junior. We need an extension from francisco indoor. That's not gonna happen. I'd rather just wait until he's a free agent and try to sign him a ten point if you ready as soon as next year. If i'm saying that the free agent class like i said there's a little bit barren but if you want to be aggressive and if you're going to learn anything from this offseason and you want to be aggressive for instance gorgeous wayne tried to sign him. Why give up a player that you can build around and be part of this core for a while when you can just probably signing leader so that if if it means shipping off for instance goal door yet but i want i want an extension if not i'll just wait that's my position on a note that uh are only part of this conversation to was set at the he's framing this as the this year's buki bats creek Brennan correct and that's how he was framing it in this conversation. I i agree with you wholeheartedly. I want worse career l. junior on his teams. I really think he could be the next big thing in toronto because he has that much talent friend. Anyway this one. yeah no. I definitely think the linda could be the mookie betts. Maybe it's Right around spring training time or during spring training. Or something like that happens a little bit later than normal i think. I've always been in the position where i just want to get him in the building And instead of competing against twenty nine other teams assign them either have a year and try to sign it with just going against ourselves that That's what the dodgers bet on with gooky vets and it worked and they gave him a lot of money now. The dodgers are obviously a better team than the blue jays are That's obvious are. La lee in terms of the way baseball markets are looked at la is probably one of the top baseball markets especially the dodgers compared to the angels. Sorry mike trout but yeah so that there was a lot a lot more working for the dodgers The there was obviously making that. Move to get mookie betts and look i think the longer the off season goes the lower. The price gets four francisco linda. Because once you come to the trade deadline in july you haven't for two months and the price of what you would have gotten if he traded them in the off season and i think that's one reason the red sox relocate. We gotta get a deal done. That's why you saw you have redo goes a good piece. I forget the other piece that they gave up. I think it was a pitcher But the two is based on what we had talked about in that similar package right with what would have went back. I guess verdoux go. Is the louis riel in a trade to cleveland in the ads risky risky. Especially if you feel like springer or jackie bradley jr. but like yeah it's it's very tough because you He played out your mind the sequence of events that you want to see you wanna get springer in the building Into a contract and then feel a little more comfortable moving gloria to try to convince door to sign a bill. Look or we designed towards springer for another five years. Stay along for the ride. Francisco will give you the money you want. It could be shorter. Term seagate free agency window for a second time Or first time but yeah is a lot of different ways you can go with linda. Trade it if it's me at the end of the day get him in the building and try a triasol job when it's just yourself in yourself only versus trying against twenty nine other teams ari. Well serious i. It's it's not so much wisdom as it is common sense. I think you both adamant brandon brought up the fact that it doesn't have to be rushed and even though we are talking about You know an mvp caliber shortstop at the end of the day. Things worse year. This isn't what i find. Ironic is that we have the more controllable asset. That's peaking versus one. That and i'm not saying he's gonna fall off the wagon but the thing that concerns me is if boba shed is the bible tonight read somewhere that he so bloody gracious he was going to say it was prepared to move it the position if the jays do have a huge upgrade which i think is just so bloody classy mean boba for premier and prime minister may be even like and he. He's he's the player in market at that position. You gotta leftfielder now. Who has a chance in the next couple of years to continue to show you why. He's the odd man out right because we always talk about guerrero or at least we did talk radio booker junior and bishop video but is baseball. Royalty comes from that pedigree and correct me if i'm wrong. Guys didn't in the first year of his career couple years back with the blue jays. He set the rookie record for multi. Hit games in eleven or twelve games or something like was even a rookie like Legit actual baseball record that you had the most doubles or something. You're right you're right. I remember then. Bulbs clutched which is a testament to the fact that the organization is very lucky to have talented players. Like that. and if you're gonna roll the die to yourself. I wanna gamble on a player that a i don't know if i can retain i mean. Look it's the cleveland factor. right mark. shapiro probably knows francisco indoor better than we probably could ever imagine because even though came into his own when Bayreuth already taken over with the blue jays. I'm sure he was involved. Instrumental in his minor league Progress and so in that respect i could see it happening because mark shapiro might have the proverbial baseball on for this player to say. Hey you're gonna be twenty seven we gotta get you at the right time but to give up your your your everyday now entrenched outfielder who may have the occasional adventure but at the end of the day is showing you that he later. Why why does that have to be the order of things. Why not then go after a springer and take that kind of risk and keep things balanced and decide what you want to swap later in terms of making trades. Go in and put bogus out. Because we're gonna go. What's the he's gonna take over as Alternate learner outfield. While you're roaming super canadian. Captain 'cause i consider to be the captain of this team Don't disrupt that stop is very important sexy position for a reason that's position. Don't bring in a guy who's all about the bling bling. Because he is you. Watch him he's got swagger. I liked that. I like these players with swagger. But he hasn't won anything yet and i think real juniors learning how to win by sticking with the stream and trading him in disrupting that just seems strange to be not considering what he showed us in a very very short time. It is definitely a little bit of a curveball in the works. And we talked about extensively on this phil because if you do end up moving chat to second base you alluded to aria begins this whole friggin spiral where everybody goes and then becoming outfielder. Who does lad still play trump. these phone agree h. It's just everything but the fact is you did mention the slager but he tried to. Is that damn good. Just just that renting. You're right you're right. Look if you deserve to talk the talk. So linda me as as obviously. I'm not going to mince words. I know how valuable he is but i don't think he's as valuable to the team the way it's being constructed people think and if you start disrupting it like you said and putting with justin you pick the most talented player in the most convenient position while you only need to look at how this team play defensively to understand why that's dangerous. Players need established positions. Versatility is great. I'm all about versatility. We've had some versatile players remember cans occasionally when you didn't need your you brought him dispute play a spotter al's players like that and obviously if the blue jays have more of those players they'll be better off not real to me he's in that cluster of coveted young players. You don't screw around with their party. Nucleus and he's a honorary member of that newbies at the mansion. A player that that spies this nucleus to after what you just mentioned a guy that was not quite pulling for shortstop i don't regardless of bubba Coming up through the blue jays. Minor league system. I nev- i. After the i saw off wars al junior. I didn't think he was ever gonna stick at shortstop gangly going to become sex. I was starting to worry. He was turning the knob locking handle throwing the ball the second or first base so he you saw what that that physician but dead. He is honestly really. Wouldn't shock me if some His album that he becomes a center fielder because we already saw him. Being a gold glove contestant in his second season playing in the outfield and in all reality he's only really played one actual season worth games in left field legitimate league level experiment anymore. Right he doesn't feel like an experiment he feels like a guy who found his position improved at the plate for it and we know that happens a lot in the sport. Where if you're playing position your company and the glared is so intense. Isn't it if you're a shortstop. I mean if you do develop knob block later knob walk like career qualities because we all know. That's what hurt later on. He wasn't that bad in the first half of his career by the second half was created was abundantly obvious that he was struggling and so when he started playing he hit better because it was less pressure. And i think that's what happened grail. Psychologically he realized i'm not a shortstop. I'm a six foot four behemoth who can really power the ball to opposite fields. Let's let's channel george bell with trying to pretend to be someone we're not pointing out the irony that you point out important. The shortstop position is investment crowding out. People like alex gonzales. David eckstein this team. That's it's been base by having alfredo tony fernandez define the essence of two-way way shortstop play and they let such a fernandez in particular left such a mark that it would be very hard to to ever replicate and tried now. It's kansallis was example once again if the media cramming him down our throat saying he's a lot more talented than you think. I hate to say it guys. We all know he wasn't and the spread part is we lived in denial for about four and a half years until finally it was too late. Because you can't afford to waste year central players at major league positions that's why the minor leagues exist in a fragile a separate show that i could rant on. What major league. Baseball is the minor league system but to me. Don't expect me to pay top dollar to baseball game. And you're gonna experiment with players. Figure out their position get the right roster. Chemistry boom win ballgames. I'm gonna tell muri kazakh. Kawasaki that you're taking all the bananas away. He's never allowed to blue dugout. Ever again pinot man that air is so and we all know that was a glorified mascot and sometimes meat. Sometimes a player is just so shitty and nature that the only way he'll fit in is with good humour and being a mascot and you know what they were nights where that actually work because it was an angry ended up winning so there you go good deal guys so i am. Anybody have anything. They'd like to add on the franscisco. Linda or or where this turned into a Gushing of love for loris scary junior. Why we need them on this team. Except i just i of left this out before if the order of things and i think brennan you touched on. This is the order of things dictator that we got a spring or a real muto before and then made a run for lindor. I'm okay at that. Yes yeah yeah if this is the only move or making now. I'm not a month doing it. yeah for sure. So i have to now if we're done with that we have some questions on the board from our loving fans that including apparently a knew i went actual you know help nice so first off out to I mentioned earlier. Bernie time joining our exclusive club and then off from a well. Two questions in all reality from blue jays ranger ak neck and of the shows. Pretty much has a question for us every week. Make sure we're on worked our toes you guys see as a failure if The blue jays fails to ghana and he does go back to japan or to competitive. What's the what's the demand Not mentioned but let's say that Right now the demand is more or less japan or boss right. I'm saying in terms of a contract. A contract is right. If it's going to take ally in the i don't know i just. I'm among comfortable giving a longterm to him. But do i consider it failure. No i would consider a failure if no other moves the nets a wasted opportunity but much wasted love because in all reality. Let's get him to two years at a decent rate so a little bit. Let's say we yamaguchi. We gave them one point three or something like that three. Yeah let's say it was for four two years for try here are over that one hundred percent that's okay and not sustain even further because it might actually take in is tenure in pattern the gucci's let's say we have the double that make it six or seven or he's still all over it six or seven million per year. Yep for two years. Just i'm trying to make it easy. You wanna talk schools man years. Yeah i willing to take a two year risk i. I'd even give them thirty over two years. I don't care them money care. Just make it happen if it's a two year contract what what's the worst that could happen. But it'd be shocked if it's outside of a two year three year deal. I really would be just because of the age is thirty two years old. And you don't. It hasn't pitched game a major league. Baseball is much as i would. love to. Bank is a major league level player playing in japan. I really don't know that you know it's just when it boils down to so i love to throw money at it but i really don't think i don't see anybody walking up to them and bill here five years and i think is with the offers that he has on the table. Right now What i consider it a failure if they don't sign in the contract is for little little term in little money. I don't think so Again kind of like what. I said with kim. I sure am hoping that this behind going. After kim in behind going to means that there are other stuff cooking stuff will happen whether that's hendrix whether that's taiwan walker whether that's jayco to rizzi whoever it is they're still quality names on three market the ellen get out at the big league level especially auto especially taiwan walker. Both recent guests on talk in baseball to. I've got podcasts recently. Craig it's a good one. you got. Yeah he's like trevor plouffe so this guy he was a very good guy very cool outspoken. At and they're not just yankees fans which is a nice thing about that but enough smoke up their butts for that podcast. Go back to say no. Yeah it a failure if they get them of course He is billed as a top five starter in this market right now. So that's got a count for something. I guess i wouldn't be disappointed brendan. It's only a good thing to plug other people's podcasts. Breaks are you can plug yours in like no. No no no humble. I'm awful humidity tonight. I'm just saying that's that's a great point. You bring up by the way these other. Podcasts can give you different ways of thinking about what the actions really mean. I just love the fact that we're we have a consensus here. Which is they need to spend money. They need to. Let's rephrase it properly. The they need to invest in this roster otherwise. It's not going to happen. And we'll be here. Sitting here theorizing analytic on reclamation projects. And i thought that that era was done in done like seriously. If anything last couple of years we've learned about this organization is that it's very very good at corporate doublespeak in baseball gobbledygook in scott end. They've got to put their money where their mouths are simply about this thing right. The baseball has got you know why people are disappointed with this front office because of years like twenty seventeen in twenty eighteen twenty. Nineteen were steve. Pearce was a headline sign and nothing against the peers peers. Normal rallies spelling headway. He's a he's morality already. Just like you're saying like people like steve pierce. The guys always injured. He's always going to be a reclamation project so we have to go look always amazed. Lexi's gonna match is the you know you know it'd bp you can rationalize every one of these offseason moves that were sold to us as a bill of goods on the notion that hey played better for us. Yes searching right like we said earlier on this show. don't worry jesse chavez will be better than liam hendriks. Don't worry about this thing out with oakland the past year. He'll be fine the second time around know exactly. Look this is a team. There's no yeah totally. Wow that's so embarrassing. I can't even. I don't even know where to start with that. Were the only canadian team in this galaxy. Like literally in the milky way. We're the only canadian. So why can we not find a way to dignify our fan base loyalty by. And i'm not saying become the most expensive you know. Don't become a yankees team. Don't become gluttonous in your spending because you can afford to do it. Even though that in itself right there it tells you everything will be a top your spending team but don't but don't do what happened last year where they had this before last year where they had the statistic that On the on the last game of the season they were like at the bottom with a fifty three million dollar payroll in aguire. You're giving minor league team slowly around for your money. It's time to it's time to it's time to grow up Atkins have got enough time and criticism. So maybe now is the time to show these nacer sayers or contrarians who refuse to acknowledge that this is in fact a very very to team that if a now invest in it as a commodity they will not only get fan loyalty but at a time on. The fans need baseball most and they needed in toronto. I've seen so much memorabilia and paraphernalia different generations whether it's running into a baby boomer running until somebody who is is Half my age at the end of the day to myself. Look it up. Montreal expos cap. We'll get that blue jays sweater at that shirt. It's obvious that there's a great passion here stoke the flames man. Spend the money enough experts present. Megan they're going to monetize it one way or another Why not do it by bringing in crop players. You can get excited about this year. Yes and might jersey people jerseys and that same man huge huge renaissance in baseball paraphernalia. An memorabilia as you know as a result of these times capitalize on it let people learn about this amazing japanese pitcher that might be a little long in the tooth but can still throw the ball in percent of arms under percent. Larry suit brought back the memorabilia idea that my griffey junior rookie card in my upper deck spotlight actually be worth as much as i paid for it back in nineteen ninety-three wants what if what if he's never like the american league the kind of numbers ken griffey would he say but you could make the case that out of all the legendary players in baseball and he was at the top and should have been you know in the hall of fame one hundred percent vote. No one or two morons as hats didn't do what they needed to do in final analysis. What happened to him in the nationally was almost like watching wayne gretzky after he left the oilers like he's still on it and he still had that aura but something was different and it's a shame because he might all the records. Correct me from wrong. If he asked a healthy for half of those seasons of energy on pace for yeah crazy stuff love. Ken griffey junior. The kit so next second question was when are we gonna get our deal with sports. I told him he could lead the charge. And we'll make creating come with us. Thank you nick. For that one comment. I had to share it with gang here but as you steve for my dogs making the mass exit from the door and everybody coming in my backroom here. I think it's about that time. Boys that we ari. You have a wonderful guest who has been awesome catching up with us finally on this show and this is your moment to shine minutes l. Vipul of the blue jays nation where they could find you and what you got cooking on your podcast. Listen this was an absolute pleasure for me. Because it was a london. We should have done it a long time ago. Don't wanna regret that. I'd rather look forward to fresh new year. We can do this often I will be here whenever you need me and vice versa. Because i do a lot of podcasting. Polishing best bet is to find me at ari shapiro dot ca and there you can get your when it comes to delivering audio literary and video sports consumption law sophy some politics film arts culture whatever's going on in my head because these days we all just got to find ways to get through the dark knight contribute a little a little too that then i'm doing something right so real pleasure to be here in listen to three. Wise men of baseball awesome have gathered is awesome having a of the Stewart here of the human experience arpaio athlete me minor league guru for the blue jays million years ago. There you can use that one for your. Let's be honest. Brendan adam back me up. Who really knows more than this guy. When it comes to like raw data analytics three. I know where to go. You know and he tells me all those things. And i and i love the because we both we both know all of us here know that minor league baseball deserves our support in. It's not getting it for major league baseball. That should be in my opinion. I would love to be a to talk about that because it's larcenous is really good. I'm looking forward to that you would. But but it's going to be here. And i appreciate being cooked up some of that for spring training. So we'll we'll definitely piece of that show bring it on. Let's do saw brendan adam anything. You would like to add to the blue jays nation before we sign up for your sanity on saturday adamant craig go bills on josh. Jax could be my king. Can we have a show. We talked about how they lost those four super bowls in a row. Because that's one of those things that when i think back and creek me wrong. You're the big fan here. Do they have a legit shot onto those four attempts or in your opinion was right or wrong. Missed field goal. that's good memories. He's just a constant today on the dodgers. Just almost did the same thing with four failures in almost four failures in the last five years. There's no other. Pets acclimates this to four years in a row. So i'll take that with a grain of salt as amen and that might be bill spann regardless and might still be my favorite. Espn thirty for thirty four false buffalo highly recommend jerker just watching the guys even that and i guess you don't even have to bill standard. Appreciate it so when they need to do though is hurry up and do the thirty for thirty for the blue jays. act back. 'cause it's ridiculous. I can't believe they haven't done something like that. How many teams have went back to that. Oh that's right austin the yankees so all right well before we end this show the typical to collapse in ric flair Make sure you're on the blue jays twitter verse and whatnot at bird-watching effort watching wherever you get your podcasting pleasures from where it might be apple. Podcasts google podcasts. Spotify this that wherever make sure you reach out to us on these lives who've been here throughout the show. We are lovingly talking to everybody. 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B.I.G. Interview | Drew Creasman of DNVR Rockies on Disappointing Series Against Cards

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B.I.G. Interview | Drew Creasman of DNVR Rockies on Disappointing Series Against Cards

"What's up whole again. Zach stevens with. Dnv are broncos and you're listening to the whole show on thirteen ten kfi twenty four after the hour. welcome back. We're live from the collision specialist studios drew craftsman before we start this conversation about the rockies. First first and foremost have you heard of jupiter's legacy on netflix. I've seen the trailers. And i'm in but i gotta tell you what's hilarious brady is have so completely sold my mom on all of this nerd stuff. That like like she knows who like raven is and stuff now because she's like into titans and things like that she's like ahead of me. She's watched way more episodes of like the legends and stuff than i have and she started texting me last night like she assumed i'd watch it. She was asking me all kinds of questions about it. 'cause he then i'm gonna i don't i don't know she. Was she a nerd before or like this is just a recent thing and then she just species like going all in on this stuff you know we. She never she. He was fine that we were into it as kids. And she always encouraged that. My parents really. You know we're cool. That we were reading x men comics all the time we were in movies. You know that was most of the kids and they had their own stuff and now that it's kinda gone mainstream. Mom is really been like. Yeah why not why not get into. That's my kids really loved these stories. I'm gonna learn about them so now she's seeing every. Mcu movie she loves it. You know and like. I said she had me on most of the tv shows the cw dc stuff. She she loves it. She's seen every episode of arrow. She gets mad at me for not watch an awesome. I love that. Well no i i. I saw the trailer for jupiter's legacy. And then i gave it a watch. I watched the first episode. I think it was like saturday night. Or something. And i really enjoyed it. I liked the boys a lot to that was a great. I don't know if you saw that one on amazon prime. Yeah i'm i get there. I have a very interesting relationship with superhero parody. I'm allowed to make fun of my stuff. Careful and everyone told me i'm fine. Yeah everyone's told me. I'm okay but even dead pool there were moments like i love that pool but when somebody tells me the dead pool is their favorite superhero movie sideways. And i don't trust that person. I don't i. I thought the boys jupiter's legacy they have a lot of similarities but I'll be curious to get your thoughts. Maybe we'll hook it up. We'll get you on a new nerd. Show coming up again time. Just keep making these segments the baseball team. It's true. i love you man but come on rocky. Her series little depressing. So let's let's open it up with talking about netflix scored in one of those baseball games. Brady database scores runs in one of them. Well now the other guy scored a lot of runs to did. Did some pretty good thanks to man. Drew that was. I didn't think that was going to bother me as much as it did. Seeing him in a new uniform. Like i've seen it before already but seeing him against the rockies going up against the rockies it was it was bothersome it was kinda disgusting. That was rough you know. And he scores the first run of the series and kinda hits the home run in the final game of the set. You know. put them on the board and the rockies don't score again so it's basically a game winner in the second innings you know and and it's just yeah you're just sitting there going. Oh i remember. I remember the member remember. Remember remember that some member bury's we need that for sure. Thinking about nolan man. it was just. It was a strange thing. Whole the whole thing continues to be this. Very surreal. the whole thing with nolan and then jeff brightest has gone and here we are. We're we're left with none of them. Even though he even though most people were like against breiwich we were talking about that choice of. Who would you rather have well. We don't have any of them now. So there you go yeah You're okay another thing. did you umbrella. I have it on the list. I get the stuff on my list. Big umbrella kademi again. This isn't a spoiler happens like very early on. I think it's like the very first episode. Basically the setup premise like one of the kids got special powers or whatever one of 'em zooms to the future and like everything is bloated up. You know that old story like everything's just gone. Everything is ashes. And there's just the one character standing in the middle of it looking out over the like that's where the colorado rockies stan right. Now it's it's it's all blowed up right that's a great point. Everyone's gone we just gonna keep doing movie comparisons here. Did you ever see the old maverick ma- mel gibson in you remember. When he's this segment is now drew. He's at the bottom of the wagon like holding the wheels on. Do you remember the. That's what i feel like the rockies are right now that we're the wheels are about to come off and we're getting ready to go off the cliff and it's going to be bad but there's like this maverick character. That's just kinda gone straight. And i'm not really that good of a hero but i'm i'm a hold on for a little bit. I feel like the wheels are about to rip. Somebody's arms off pretty soon. Yeah right totally. And and it's just you know but The the flip side of it is you know on on the other end you you kinda as the old saying goes from the ashes rise. The phoenix right. That's you you build from the burns. The pershing burns and just it the one big silver lining to this is that the rockies do basically have like nothing but opportunity in front of them. I did a top five on. Dnv the other day Just realistic ways to fix the colorado rockies. Just reasonable cause a lot of people don't like salva team or totally reinvent the wheel or you know it's like that's to live in pie in the sky and do that for a minute but if we want to have a real adult conversation about how to fix team there's actually a lot of things they can do. That are right in front of them and this is a unique opportunity. It's tough to get a full reset. Button real rebuild and professional sports where you really can't you've got no bad contracts on the books nothing no entanglement. The gm is gone. There's nobody whoever comes in. It's a new slate. there's a new team and everything's going to be new so you can just kinda hit the reset button. Get past the bad feelings of what happened with the nolan era. And hope that whoever you know takes control of the ship moving forward knows how to drive. Yeah i mean that's the way you have to look at it right. I mean it's we have to like condition our brain when we get into these kinds of seasons in these kind of times with teams. All these teams go through it and unfortunately the rockies have certainly been through more more bumps and bruises than most in colorado. But you're right. You have to start looking at it going on. Where are the pieces here. That you build around and honestly before that saint louis series. I mean they're they're they're putting together. Series wins you know. They lost the the arizona one but they did beat san francisco the a while ago. They beat the phillies. They swept the houston in the two game series. They're putting some things together so there's at least that side of it man right when it feels like it's all going to fall apart. They do enough to kind of stay head above water. Yeah i mean there. There's some on this team the way better home which was highly predictable. That's what's gonna happen. You gotta young and inexperienced team. Guess what those guys can't figure out the course you'll hangover effect better than season hitters. Dj lemay you are not who also struggled with that. So when you're you know poor garrett hamson or dom nunez dealing with it for the first time and those guys are having nice seasons especially dumb but it says you're going to go through those times where you go. Oh for twelve on the road with a bunch of strikeouts because the ball moves ray differently in saint louis in los angeles than it does in denver. And that's something you can adjust for after awhile but it takes a while and so. I think we're going to see some of those things we're gonna continue to see them be better at home. I'll be very curious to see how they play these projects. Don't forget you know the giants were first place. Last time they came to courts field absolutely wild to the rockies and the first game of the seven inning doubleheader and then the rockies won the series and so you know yeah they can hang in there at home. i'll. I'll be very curious to see that. It was really shocked about this series by the way i mean what ten in the first inning and then suddenly they. That's got to be a good sign. I mean that's got to be something where you go. Wow they were able to recover rather than just hang their heads very embarrassing game on. Was that a week ago. Able to bounce back and win a fairly significant series for this kind of team. I'd goes off lost cucaracha when they were they. Were doing that whole thing. And they really. I mean these guys gonna have a lot of pride. They're all playing to prove that they belong. So none of these guys are into the idea of giving up at bats. Just because they're down by you know nine runs even before that like look at the game where they scored. The giants scored ten runs in the first inning. Ended up winning going away. But raimondo copied hit a grand slam. Anyway he doesn't care what the score was you know. He's he's not. That reminding people can hit and absolutely mess up this dude. Era you know that kind of stuff. And so they're they're going to be a team that plays spoiler for most of the rest of the season. But we are going to have those moments like gum and those can feel good to drew joining us. Dnv iraqis are they playing tonight. I haven't heard like going out all right. Have you seen hot fun. Yes that's great. You know the guy at the front desk. The nobody tells me not is that is going on here. They don't know so they can't tell me i'm giving him a hard time. But yeah i mean the weather. They're going to try to get it in as best they can but I don't know i mean drew. Get what's your bet. So our traffic director here at the station would love. He's listening right now. Would love to hear your thoughts. Do you think this game happens about because he gets to go home once he once. We decide what we're gonna do for carrying this game tonight bro. Same sleeping bag myself comfortable. I feel you man. I've been down there so many times. It's been like okay. So we doing this or not they. They'll wait till the last minute. Especially after cancelling or postponing. I should say yesterday's the thing that makes me think they might actually do it. If the if it does get that out there is the padres. They come back to town later in the year. So i just i wish i could give you a sense one way or another i really. We'll just ask the guy to hang in there and we'll see what happens. It's baseball in april. May so we kind of expect this kind of thing drew. Who's going to tell us tonight right. He's he's kind of on the mend. That was the plan. Yeah he was supposed to make his return. Start last night. So i would assume then. They put these things together in the seven inning doubleheaders. And you could change things around a little bit. But yeah i would assume the game is played tonight sends on the hill. We'll we'll see what this series brings a few games at home coming up so maybe the rockies can get back get a little bit getting a little bit closer to that five hundred mark. What are they ten games down. Just a little bit here. Don't let the winners completely fall off. Drew and i don't have to do movie. Comparisons all all tuesday next week right totally when a couple of all game and see what happens if they do that. When we'll we'll put like a meter audit if they win so many games a week it'll be rockies if they lose so many games we're starting with superhero stuff like this the way it's gonna go through. What are you working out for us. Man that we can check out at the end. Vr rockies. Like i said the the big thing. I published Just a day or two was the top five reasonable ways to fix the colorado rockies. Some stuff in there you probably thought of maybe a few things. We don't think about or talk about enough about some actual fundamental issues with this Franchise and i wanna point everyone toward a recent episode of the dmv iraqis. Podcast where the newcomer tortilla michaela perkins is absolutely destroying it this year. Jails runs social media. Dnb are sapone double duty Got into a really great comparison about dick monfort and suns owner robert server. Who you know was just the bane of suns fans existence Several years ago. She's from the air. He's from both areas but she spent some time working down there and you know he ended up having ultimately As she put it a come to jesus moment where he stepped away from basketball operations hired capable people. Let them run the show. And you know i. It took him learning some hard lessons. And you look at the time like dick monfort took over the rockies right around the same time that server did he's had similar issues is he. Having that moment right now is finally thing. I gotta go outside the organization for new. Gm guy that hire a team president. I thought she made an extraordinarily compelling case. You know obviously people don't have a lot of face there but they didn't have faith and robert server either. There are a lot of time. Meddling owners in cro sports all over the world and so it's interesting to keep our eye on that Because i think montfort has evolved a little bit more than people realize over the years. And like i said there's a unique opportunity right here for this team to finally turn this thing around no questions. Sometimes the most difficult decision a guy in charge can make is windows. Step back and begin delegating. And we'll see i mean we'll find out what dick bought for optimally going to do but drew we'll check that out for sure man appreciate it. I love what you guys all of you guys do over at. Dnv man blast falling along. Yeah hey it's always a blast talking to your on a whole show. Brady appreciate you. We'll talk to you very soon. That's crease mundine vr. Rockies i mean come on twelve and twenty two what are we going to do talk about. We're talking about pitching all day colfax. I mean talk have you. Have you heard of this show by the way that i'm talking about the jupiter jupiter's legacy i saw it i is it something to do with mar- marvel i don't it'd be raw. I'm not as big of a nerd as i should probably. But it's it's basically like a family of superheroes the dad and the mom getting older and their two kids or like teens twenties. Maybe in their twenties and they're basically like had a family crossroads trying it's interesting. Wow yeah just kidding. no there's more to it. I watched late after the nuggets brooklyn game. So i had maybe you know a soda pop or to just kind of like watching this and halfway through. I'm like wait a second. What was that scene about again. what am i doing. And then this day and age you pick up your phone. You start getting on twitter and stuff. You're like wait. What so it took me like two hours to watch one episode understand. Have to go back and watch it again. I saw it looked visually pleasing from the trailer. Superheroes people running around and bad guys attacking stuff. I mean it's it's it's cool. I mean there's now that's the new norm is superheroes. They're not perfect. So that's the new thing coming in so there's gonna be no perfect superhero anymore. Unfortunately forty minutes after the hour. Top text tuesday power play. Sports poll question. It's getting some controversy. Are you happy to see tim. Tebow back in the nfl for now Although rex rex ryan his former he was a coach for the jets. Of course tibo was there. When he left the broncos. He went to the jets next and rex. Ryan was there. Rex like talks about. He's got hate the whole the old quarterback controversy the fact the media circus was there for a backup. Quarterback was really frustrating. However on the one yard line goal line situation many guys. I take over tempting but he said that today the tibo still got it and stop. I'm not gonna get political here but this has nothing to do with the capital. Tibo several reasons. Why and i'm gonna talk about that coming up next. Let's get the latest on the local sports flash.

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DJ Dismayed With Yankees, Bauers Free Agency Wish List, Raul Ibanezs 2012 Heroics

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DJ Dismayed With Yankees, Bauers Free Agency Wish List, Raul Ibanezs 2012 Heroics

"In two thousand and three nike signed thirteen-year-old freddie due to a seven figure contracts. But freddie didn't live up to the height he is turned down every single documentary project looking closely at the details of his career. Until now we're going to look at everything you did. Because of the high. And they all episodes of american prodigy. Ready do are now available. Wherever you get your podcasts from blue wire. We are breaking down all aspects of yankee baseball. This is the bronx pinstriped. Show with your host age. Rotundi and scott ryan. Let's go what's up everyone. Welcome to the bronx pinstriped. Show episode five hundred and seven. Well scott you dismayed like dj. Who's completely dismayed is appalled. I'm appalled and dismayed on annoyed. Give me give me all of them. Give me everything. That's what i am. And i don't blame j. I do not blame him do you. Do you believe the report Yeah why not. i think it's i think it's coming from his agents. I've heard some stories behind the scenes that a talking to a bunch of agents and and people in the business over the past year and how things got sources i just. I've just heard things about some some some some dj Business transactions that. That surprised me. So i will say that so this does not surprise me not that it should anybody. Because if you're a human being and you're unsettled with the position your with your current employer or what should be your current employer where you think you're valued and you're not you know it's not being reciprocated. That's frustrating that's frustrating especially when you're according to the report if you're dealing on good faith and he has not actually spoken to other organizations to. That's good faith. And if that's the case and they're digging around. It's being taken advantage of it from his perspective. He's probably feeling. I don't know what else i could have done on the field to help the team on the mvp candidate for two years running. And you're playing hardball with me. And i basically not budging. I mean all the reports are that the yankees and cashman are not budging on their number for lemay who and and he's not budging. Either i guess neither of them need to budge right now because no one's getting signed. So what's the rush here. Because as soon as they might not even start on time. So what's the rush. Just just hold out as long as you can and then at the last possible minute like the yankees are going to take their offer off the table. Lemay hugh knows that. That's bad business altogether bottom line you. The business of major league baseball is not going away. The new york yankees business is not going away. You have you. There's also a a tone to set as the new york yankees with the with the people that you want in the building long-term and to me. This is just not that tone. If this is your. I'm talking about lamaze perspective. I know lemay hugh. There's no reason to to come off your number. And maybe there's reason for the yankees to come off their number for the point you just made. Don't piss off your best player. How right if that's a good strategy. Don't do your best player whether you want to say. He's the best player. Aaron judge best player who ever dj limit. Who's the best player. It's really not that much of a question so so don't don't anger your best in arguably most important position player for your team because even if he comes back if he's pissed off that's not good and maybe he's one of these guys it's just like oh once once penn is on paper. I don't expect. I play ball. They care and i also expect him. What happens if there's a delineation between the team and the players also right. What happens if lemay hugh ends up signing with the blue jays or the mets. Or the f- the frigate anaheim angels or something and it comes out that the yankees didn't want to budge off their eighty million dollar offer and he signs for ninety million dollars. What are the rest of the guys that clubhouse saying look. I know that's a problem. Yeah you guys have all the money in the world clearly. We are on the cusp. We were this close. We were so close to winning the world series last year. We were only two series away. We were we were right there. Sign sign our guy. Signed like the steady rock of the team. Because that's exactly what he is in a time where everybody else strikes out or hits a home run. You need that steady rock and there's no one else in the clubhouse that can provide that stability on the team incite. There's just nobody there that can be this similar type of person to similar type of present so now look i could also see. Dj lemay being the guy that you disrespect you disres- you put disrespect to his name. You say anything or you don't treat him like he wants to be treated because he's putting it he's giving it to you he's gonna use that as fuel and problem i could see him being very spiteful on the back end as well he won't say it but the machine gets mad and the machine will go to toronto or buffalo. Wherever the hell they're playing our tampa and they will and and he will. He will rain fire hellish fury of fire on the new york yankees. Every time we play him which is going to be. Nineteen times spy is a great motivator. Perhaps the best motivator you. i'm fueled by spite. I don't know about you. I know you're fueled by spite. I think sometimes it can be too much. And then you're like i don't know who is who is spite more visit. That guy this guy this situation that situation but it is especially when it's concentrated if you've concentrated spite powerful shit has powerful especially could be especially powerful in sports. Yes so the chip on the shoulder of the old the old cliche. But it's even deeper than that. The article i read on the the dismayed which i just find is a great word. It is a great where he jalen met. He was dismayed at the the sounds like a medieval. Like they're going to have there's going to be a dual or the it sounds it. Sounds like an old term so a really good common here that we fail. Then i think a lot of people fail to understand so the the line reads teams that have engaged with a may who can't say he expects more than josh donaldson's four year ninety two million dollars with the twins last season. Yeah why wouldn't you expect more than that. He's younger than josh donaldson. He's a better hitter than josh donaldson. Over the past two years. Why wouldn't he expect more than josh donaldson. Four year. Ninety two million dollars. Josh donaldson a couple of years ago literally could not throw a ball to i mean. The guy has has some pretty severe injuries in his past. So there's there's certainly more of a risk there as well Johnson's also the guy that's been touting launch angle for a long time on mlb network doing tutorials there are different players. Maybe you value josh. Donaldson's way auction of play his production. Maybe you value that more. But but i understand that comp and then they also put in jd. Martinez is five hundred and ten million dollars with the red sox. That was what four years ago three years ago. Three offseasons ago that they signed that deal and he's a pure d. h. and when he was performing well i mean he's he's a better hitter than lemay when he's performing at his peak. So i put the jd martinez one to the side. He also came off over ridiculous season and has been able to replicate that either so he came off of a ridiculous season with arizona when when he was all about he now two thousand eighteen. The red sox the year they won the championship. he hit like three thirty with like forty home runs. he was. you're right. That was the last year it was the it was the first red sox year right. It was the first year with the team. Eighteen in the nineteen. He was still good but less novice and then this past year he was awful but through whatever. But what i'm saying. Is i kind of put that aside. I think donaldson's four ninety two million dollar deal that if he not getting at least that i understand that. Yeah it's because we'll also you're looking at Position to yeah exactly so you have a third base been. Dj can play wherever you put him. yeah no it makes sense digital lemay. Who is a is an mvp candidate. And if he's seeing a guy. Like josh donaldson competence. Yeah so i. I don't know when this is going to budge. I think it's going to bleed into and he got paid by the minnesota twins team. That doesn't pay anybody so so that this is going to bleed into february whether spring training starts on time or not. I don't expect them to be signed when the yankees. I think the yankees are supposed to report on february fourteenth or february thirteenth lakers pitchers and catchers or something like that. I don't think he's going to be signed by that. I mean that's a problem. I really hope that's not the case because to me. That's just walking in with even more uncertain uncertainty with your with your team with the season with all these things when when literally just like. I said before like the sky. Is that steady rock. That's on your team. You need to have that in place. That is such a kato. look i i do. I do expect down there. Because of the market i think the market's gonna start dictating the signings sooner than later. Guys there's been trades traits blake. Snell was all it takes is one more door on the infield like if if let's say dj not dj lemay. Let's say didi gregorious starts getting into hot and heavy talks with with a couple teams now. Now you're looking at around like okay. What am i backup options to you. What is the market going to be giving me as an available piece that i can plug in here because tyler waiting cutting it like. It's not a guy that i can rely on playing sunny kind of position there. There's no tyler saying on right. And feel what's jonah roster right now. The pipedream was maybe cashman was working a deal for lender. But that's it's done it's done and market is dictating now and it's becoming much smaller and when i looked around and i see de gregorio over there if he signed somewhere or there's there's no good talks of him going going somewhere On a deal then this market is going to squeeze and you're going to have to sign somebody. There's also tommy la stella who i don't think assigned right last. I look he was still a free on the free agent list for oakland. He's kind of diet. Dj lemay hugh. He complained multiple positions. He doesn't strike out a lot. he's not been as productive but he's a solid player. I kinda put him in my gm plans as a backup to you. If you don't get lemay you but you might be wondering how come. We're not talking about the the mets trade for linda crisco. We will touch on briefly. We talked about it in our live show which came out last friday. We we did a live show on fan crowd. We had like four or five callers. Call into the shows a ton of fun We talked about the the mets trade we talked about the garrett cole illegal substances stuff and people called and bitched about the fact that lemay who has not signed yet. Go listen to that if you have not done so already We'll talk a bit more about those topics in a minute here but there will be more live shows to come at something that you and i enjoyed a lot and we want to get the the idea of having people listeners of the show be a part of the show in not just the Not just the the mail bags and that stuff but actually calling in with take or story or funny joke or whatever it is. That's something i would love to have grown for this podcast. Yeah no i mean. I think it it goes. It goes to the core of what we do here. And what we've always wanted to do with bronx pinstripes and this particular in this show in particular is is Have as much involvement with yankees fans as possible. That's why we started doing the events that's why we started doing all these things. Obviously we don't have the events. I feel like both are jonesing to to really. Just bring bring the community in some way Whether it's yankee stadium or not are you. Bring them live on the show. That was why we did the mail bag in the beginning Yeah we're going to do it more often. It was fun. We had a bunch of people on there. We did it through the facebook group. Who kind of an experiment We did yeah. There was no notice we kind of just threw it up and we did a great that that people join us so next time we have a. We will plan a date. We will let you guys know. We will have more runway to it so you can call in. Maybe we won't do at two o'clock in the friday although everybody is at home and we had one guy posted one guy in the comments say he. He was currently teaching a class. Right now is probably a zoom class and he was like a fifth grade teacher who was just watching the show so definitely appreciate that maybe a students but the the the door going to the mets thing kind of ended any pipedream of the yankees have as ninja cashman swooping in for lyn door and then that that making lemay hugh innocence obsolete on this team. That's out the window now so you can't talk about that anymore. So people are like ok. That linda trapped trade happened nine days ago. What are we waiting for here on the mayhem again. The markets squeezing. I'm dying over. Just got coffee stuck in my throat which i didn't know as possible Liquid it goes that is a that is part of the squeeze that i think he's going to be a and after that we started hearing about the dismay we started hearing about all of these things. Because but yeah. That's actually interesting timing right well. It's not interesting that's the thing. That's that's that's part of this market squeeze. It's all these. Everything here is cyclical. It's they're working off of each other here when when a guy is taken off the board now okay. Hey my guys still here. Demand is even higher now for this guy and there's going to be more suitors involved. Anybody who needs a second baseman slash third base with first basements. Ice t h. You've got this guy right here so we're gonna start Going on a roadshow talking and and they are trying to build pressure. I get an expense Not that they have to because everything is very quantifiable with them. We all know what he is. He's one of best players in baseball. So and i would argue that the yankees need him more than any team needs him and the yankees need him. More than any player on the yankees. So he is. Is the most valuable player right now in baseball to the new york. Yankees the the mets trade though fallen doran carrasco i think is a great move for them hell yet is it really is the fact that they got carrasco. Who is a really solid mid rotation arm for a reasonable amount of with upside. I'd say he's got to upside for sure. Sure to twenty seven million guaranteed over the next two years in a club option for eleven million. He would get more than that on the fridge. Market right now. I'm not going to let you take you take the door out of this deal and it's actually not even that bad for just rasco. It's a little bit overpay. But it's really not that. But then he'll get a year of door atop a top three shortstop in the game. And if you look at linda for over the past sort of from season st twenty sixteen to two thousand nineteen. He posted five plus war in each season. There are only play. The only players who have done that in in that span in additional indoor or mike trout. Mookie betts Erno and jose ramirez. So he's in that camp we're talking about how his down year and twenty twenty might might scare teams off of the trademark are like what is linda really. I still think he's a top player in the game. Yeah i mean again. I throw out twenty twenty for the majority of players if you had a if you have consistency and you've shown you know on on you put the tape down years previous of who you are as long as you're not coming off of huge injury or you haven't hit that magic age where you start falling apart. I'm throwing twenty twenty out. It was just too too odds of of sample size of really look at and take anything from especially with the guy lakeland door. Who is a proven superstar. So yeah i think that the mets to be honest got a steel here especially if they lock him up with i gotta believe is in the car. Cohen's going to do and we'll find out right. We'll find out if the mets are still the mets. Or if the steve cohen era has changed things there because if this was the wilpon so onerous and they made this deal immediately. Cresco would need. Tommy john surgery and francisco indoor twist an ankle and spring training on day one and he wouldn't play in this whole thing would be botched steve cohen. There's no longer the stink of the wilpon on the mets. Maybe this is gonna work out great for them. Time will tell on that. I feel like for the wilpon era. What would happen is is. Linda would come in for his or one of the guys that was traded to. Cleveland would go over there for his physical fail. The physical the trade would get completely nixed and then the guys that came back would be dismayed and potentially injured and now the pipe dream of having lynn door for the shitty prospects that one of them One of the guys was what seventh in the in the rookie of the year ballot these prospect not super super great. And it's so obvious what the indians are doing. They're shedding salary. There's like spo. Track has them at twenty nine five if we already we talk about the spot macek. Twenty two point nine million committed in guaranteed salary for next year which is an embarrassment for a major league baseball franchise. If you're the new york yankees you have to be talking to them right. You have to be calling to see what else is on the fire sale. You have to be if i jose ramirez is still a a good contract. He's on that list of five plus four guys and he makes like ten million dollars a year. I'm just saying you gotta have a conversation about him because if you can get a guy like that for with with For lunch wait for somebody as voy ever it is. You should be having those conversations. Yeah here's luke in a prospect loop quite will give you production any cost one million dollars a year and we'll take jose ramirez done so so i don't know what the hell the indians are doing. They're probably still going to compete for a playoff spot because guess what fifty five percent of the league makes the play offs and they still have a good pitching staff. But it's it's kind of it. Sucks that their teams. It sucks that baseball. The way it's set up allows for teams good teams to just completely shed salary. Matthew dumb question little Just going back to the other things. I suddenly popped in my are no dumb questions but you know we'll see okay. I'll tell you so if you call it cleveland. And they said okay. Jose ramirez shane bieber. But you gotta give up dominquez the yeah kidding me. I don't know. I think the yankees have him at a high. He's probably going to be the number one prospect in baseball coming. He's sixteen years. Old can even be traded. Legally like i feel like there's there's a gray area but but assuming he can be league yes yes trade him for the cy young winner. I mean dishonor wonder who manhandled detroit. Yeah maybe i'd bet a lot of people would not do that deal. I mean it would be more involved. There were a lot of people are more prospects involved. There would be probably some major majorly talent involved as well. It would be a massive hall including him. But i could see them. Doing could see them doing something. I don't see the indians doing that. Though because shane bieber was the best pitcher in baseball last year trying to win. We actually keep saying the in cleveland team. I keep forgetting baseball team. The i don't know if we talked about the the odds of the next name but like five hundred to one was the cleveland st immerse. So can we call them the steamers until they act cleveland steamers and if they would be i would want to get out of town if i was named the steamer. So there's there's probably a coup happening well. Within the cleveland organization there is nobody in the yankees minor league system that i would not give up for shane. Bieber and jose ramirez. So you guys that. Because they're not trying to win right now. They're clearly trying to shed salary and prospect. Load as much as they possibly can. Maybe if the browns the browns are going to satisfy that fanbase now for the next ten years they wanna playoff game. Those guys are happy. They don't give a shit what happens with the baseball team I would say it would take your top three organizational prospects so domingus clark smidt debbie garcia and i would do that as the yankees and Ramirez top three prospects. Yup here you go by you. Now have a one two punch and garrett cole and Shane bieber you have a better upgrade at first base. You're going to win multiple world series of the knicks. Not to mention a guy like jose ramirez plugs into this lineup. Way way better like he fits this line up nicely. Yeah so i would absolutely do that and there there needs to be. You'd think it's a ridiculous. Do you think that's ridiculous thing to to bring up though because this is kind of video game trade that timing but they are both sides. I see both sides having reasons for not doing that. The yankees don't wanna completely empty their farm system. Because that's just not the organizational philosophy that brian cashman in the department has at this point. And as if you're the steamers you're not gonna trade the cy young winner. Who doesn't make any money. I think if double decker every time you say that you don't know so so so the the who's the the the cleveland steamers owner isn't it one of the turn offs. Anyway you can now compete for a playoff spot at like eighty three winds and your team is still good enough for eighty three wins next year. So you're gonna make money especially because you are paying twenty four million dollars in salary. I am looking at next year. And i'm wondering how many of these owners and gm are saying okay. We don't need to get butts in seats. We don't we don't need to get butts in seats. We don't need to get people in the building so the product could be different. All of these. The the regional sports deals are already done. Doesn't really matter if your team is that. They still want butts in seats because that was the whole big thing last year the goal. We're going to lose out on all this. The gate revenue. The session is are the but since he's going to be the same equivalent to a standard year butts in seats. Or can you now diminish your product and then not lose much the gate because who knows what that's going to look like no but tv but but Tv money still would change. Like say the say the steamers have a. They're in the playoffs Contention september don't rating. I mean doesn't the tv deals. I think once you payoffs have implications but regular season regional. Sports deals are are done right. They're done solar negotiated. You've bought september long in advance. It doesn't matter if the team is in contention out of content of you're paying the same rate right but it's also the regional. Sports pack is speeds the regional sports network who is Who's facilitating the detroit. Sports network and the major league team is in place. So there are you. I think there are some peripheral things that are going on here with With with diminished team on. But if you could bump it a year and it's like okay well these prospects in twenty twenty two you know might be exciting and and that's when we'll get be able to get a full house of people in seats. I don't know. I'm going over scenarios of an owner and gm and like what's what's and and how is the market changed and what what Environmental changes are going into decisions. Because there's that's happening. Collective bargaining agreements coming up. There's a lot of things happening behind the scenes right now that. I think that we're not all aware of that. Are going into these decisions and delaying things are making. You know making a tipping point for a team like cleveland. Like we need to shed salary. We're not going to be good. So what are we doing. Do we need to be team. Or do we need to dump it and and reset punt it down until after the new cba and like you said when you go through that that spreadsheet that you had it's the teams that are in the middle or the ones that actually don't you just being in the middle of the worst the worst yes so pick aside and clearly. That side is not up right now. Yeah yeah. I don't know it's that would you wild though if that if that happened. I just don't see them trading. I don't see them trading. More people away because i think then you really get into the trading linder on paper make sense. He's going to be a free agent. They knew that was coming. We all knew that was coming. Carrasco was a bit of a surprise. But then if you trade someone who doesn't make any money who is at the top of his game in shane bieber right now. How does it dominguez lease sell guys. How do you talk to that jay. Jason dominguez's is one of these. Like freak guys coming up. That looks like a freak heads. Like a freak. And i know he's a prospect still and there's a huge huge huge gap in when he becomes productive player in the major league level if he becomes productive player in the major league level. A lot of things have to happen especially in baseball. It's not a dunk like like in no pun intended basketball or even football. There's a lot more of certainty. I think both of those sports. But that's a that is something for an organization a fan base to look at like. Oh damn like this kid might be. The next trout might be the next. You know. mookie betts type player and we're not gonna win anyway might as well set up for the future that could fire up a fan base. I don't know it would fire me up. If the yankees gushing beer that's sure garrett cole and illegal substances his name was headlined in in this article these articles. Brian hawkins the dismayed clubhouse attendee. Who was fired from the angels who was making illegal concoctions of of pine tar and urine and mud and who else who noble cautions cooking it in his in his radiator out in the backyard. That's an episode. Call was one of the big pitchers named so ver lander so was kluber so was A ton of other pitchers. He's apparently been doing this for both sides. Visitors and home team for years. My question is not my question is this should how can. Mlb legalize something for pitchers where it's not where it's everyone's satisfied because you said on the livestream the other day why just legalize a sticky substance for pitchers and went off to deal with this and my counter to that is because then they're just gonna come up with a new concoction that isn't on the on the approved substance. Listen than where. Wendy you stop it like. At what point can the guy can guy takeout package of elmer's glue out to the mountains dump it all over the man like when do we draw the line. But that's not a good reason because that's an you can say the to hear about steroids wideband. Steroids are just going to come up with the next strain and and figure out. You know. i'm not talking ban. Why approve right but that that is my point. There are approved substances that you can go out and take creatine. You can take like certain things or on the approved list. There is an approved list for for four substances to enhance your ability. There's a roz. There's rosin bag okay. There's a rosin bag but there's also the ability to say that a rosin bag when it's cold out doesn't really do much. It actually makes things more. Slippery is what is when i know. That's why they allow when it's cold out for you to blow on your hand and liquor fingers. Okay that's not the most effective thing either though. That's that's the point like here's the thing the substances approve substances list for for the not the or the banned list for steroids. Which by the way you want to look at it. Changes does not. It's a it's a fluid rolling list like things change. Will tech industry changes things change right because they're constantly trying to find the next thing right and that's exactly what will happen with pitchers so you can still have an approved list changes. Also there can be a mixture of approved substances that is specifically made for mlb pitchers that is approved and and put that on that list. I'm just saying look. It's something that they should is a potential for them to think about because if this is doing it anyway if the are using stuff anyway. Trevor bauer said seventy percent of pitchers which seems low to me actually use some sort of illegal quote unquote illegal substance. The word illegal gets people freaked out right because you think illegal substances. You're like oh my god. They're taking horse. Steroids like barry bonds in his. Head's going to be nineteen sizes larger. He's gonna hit seventy five pretty good competent in the sense. That that you look at Andro andro was in mark mcgwire's locker behind him while giving that over the counter. Gnc while giving postgame interviews but then it got banned so why not have a list. That's approved things that you can use to increase the tackiness on your hands in a in a in a day that you're gonna lose control potentially lose control of that substance the offense. I don't know. I'm not a chemist. I'm a doctor is it gonna be bubbas concoction is maybe he's gonna make millions of dollars. Tax says as bubbas mix. I don't know maybe. Mlb is going to hire bull. Fraz the tempest as the backyard. Chemist to bring his radiator into the lab and figure out what that concoc-. I don't know what that answer is. I'm just telling klay by not have an approved. Substance remember clay buckled. Like be forty degrees out like you took a shower because his hair was so greece wet. And matted down with. I don't know what was in it sunscreen. Yeah so that there's that there's those instances where it's like. Well we know he's doing something because he's constantly touching his hair there's the uc kukuchi remember when he had the pine tar under his hat and and it was so obvious and he kept touching his hat. And then there's freaking michael pineda who just took it. Paint a paint brush and lather did on his neck just a glob. I mean that's that's my. There are so many unwritten rules about this in baseball. Already that exists. And so where's the line is my question of. Where's the line eight one. The baseball can never come up with the correct line because just when you think they just when you think okay we're gonna have replay room. And here's the line guys don't go into the replay room and use it for live at bats. Guess what the astros are going to go slam and trash cans. But that's not an obese. This is not an obese. Fault for all these all and they'll be problem not fault. It's their problem. It's mlb's and it will never not be a problem because people will always try to get an advantage. Always always always from the old stories of ty cobb having guys on the building behind the stadium with a freaking telescope trying to pick up signs. There will always be people that are trying to take to get an advantage and to get that extra little edge. That will always happen so whether it's steroids or substance on your hands or banging trash cans and and and cameras and lights and sounds whatever it is. There's going to be people trying to get an advantage. That doesn't mean you can't try to look at what's happening and adapt and and you know moving into that that next ground of okay it's happening. Everybody wants this to happen because player safety is paramount. And the guys with the bats are also telling you they're fine with it create something create. Something is it is it. Is it like a similar story lighter narrative to like marijuana. They're going to do it anyway. Just legalize it and try to control it as much as you possibly can. Because it's already it's they're just gonna do it anyway. Yeah you see the joe. Rogan bit where he talks about like the legal edibles. He's the leg of the gummy bear. That's all he can handle. It's i haven't seen that the the real stuff is so powered by brother. Lives all right. Oh real off is going to be so powerful. Brother lives in colorado and he finally gruesome nuts and and say he flew it. Yeah he flew into. He's he's going to be on the on the lists now. But i can only i wish i wish you you're up in massachusetts. What's that you could have bought someone you're in massachusetts. I totally forgot about that. But i wish i could have video of him going through security knowing that was in his bag. I really wish. I could have that tape because it would be hilarious. So you see this chart of garrick. Kohl's average spin raped by season. Yeah it's interesting. it's quite an interesting isn't it. Because we know his early days in pittsburgh fifteen or not early days but in fifteen sixteen and seventeen has been rate was down. He was in pittsburgh he goes to houston in two thousand eighteen and his fastball and break fastball and yet breaking ball so they have fastballs breaking ball and off speed. I believe breaking balls. Curveball off speed is changing correct. And then i mean. Where's the slider in there. So maybe breaking ball. His slider and off speed is all other. Non fastball slider pitches. I think so. Because i think off speed can be stole a pitch with velocity that You mean breaking can still be velocity breaking up. I'm a making up. The words breaking could still velocity off. Speed is a curveball. A changeup because curveballs. Not thrown with velocity at a curveball breaks. Changeup is not. I don't fucking know sar is so kenan so i think it's this way i think in off speed pitch can also be a breaking ball but a breaking ball. No no no a break. You look at the spin rate. I think that tells us what it is more than anything. Yeah the harder pitches have higher spin race especially in two thousand nineteen. They peel off speed to me would be a change up and a curveball whereas breaking is like slider cutter or something like that according to the interestingly in two thousand twenty his spin rate came down a bit still higher than it was in two thousand eighteen the astros but came down from two thousand and nineteen nineties with the astros that could be small sample size. That could be a number of different things. I mean in the text messages. He's talking about these cold weather games in april. Those never happened but he was never never able to get bubba because the yankees never played the angels this year so bubba and garett. They never got together. Was bubba not on the east coast at the same time. Like could they do like. Hey let's meet on the turnpike bubbas. Exit anaheim guy is garrett. Kohl's orange county. Where he grew up he grew up in like southern california right. So he's there on the he imbaba ya earlier. Imagine what he was flying with. Garrett cole was flying with baba substance all so that would be nervous. It part of me gets angry about these reports. Because i think it's i think it's a non scandal. This is not a scandal but it's also a problem that it'll be has yet another problem. I think it goes into the fact that there's probably also though something something more happening in. Houston this this goes back to my my my thoughts if you want to call them conspiracy theories. I don't even think they're really that much of a conspiracy theory. I think that when you see an organization that is looking for advantages and they are resorting to banging trash cans and getting away with it. They're probably gonna look at other opportunities as well. And i think that this is probably one of those areas trevor bauer had been eluding to for in for for a long time with substances and houston. We've we've said and we've read articles and different postgame reports that have eluded to certain things like this. I would not be surprised if they had somebody on staff that was experimenting with additional chemicals. And being able to figure out to do this because when you see the other guys that have also come over to houston and and the increase in spin rate and it's drastically higher than any other organization. Something just different. It's not the way something doesn't smell right sometimes. It doesn't pass you know when when pittsburgh and they're pitching coaches were they were. There were looked at as as game changers over there. These guys were highly no but with harmful within the commute baseball community of being You know above the curve Pity coaches in in pittsburgh. And when you come from pittsburgh and you're coming to houston and now all of a sudden these these revelations and spin raider happening. I don't know something. Something's fishy the major change from pittsburgh garrett cole to to houston garrett cole. Was he stopped throwing the sinker. So pittsburgh said two seamers two seamers to seamers and then he got the houston and really know. Throw your heart four seamer and throw your curve ball and those pitches naturally have more spin right than a singer to be fair. The other thing that happened in houston is analytics. They embraced analytics. Like no other team did so. You're going to see a jump in a way that they've attacked if they were if you're right and you go that hard into a different a different strategy that other teams and you're right then you're gonna see those those spikes you're going to see drastic differences from other clubs and they certainly when you look at the amount of you know cameras that they had in their in their organization and installed in their facilities for whether you know. They're recording signs or they're they're actually using it for development purposes. You're going to see addressing differences if you're right so there are other other factors that go into play and gary will remade himself physically. I mean you look at the pictures of him in pittsburgh and him cleveland. He's a different physique. Like the guy is in much better shape he he definitely changed himself and and tweaked the the workout regimen to. There are other things that go into plate. There are no doubt. There's no doubt but they're the spin rate increase across the the other guys as well is to me You know just a little bit of a flag when there's cheating along with those flags my flag gets raised. Higher guys. want to tell you about a project that i'm working on here at blue wire called the blue wire hustle. It's a brand new program for you can host your very own podcast here. At blue wire hustle was created to give everyone the opportunity to take your podcast to next level. Or you just want to host the podcast. And you don't know where to start. Hustle is the perfect place to do that. As part of the program. You'll receive personal cover art we got. Qna's with blue wires top podcasters access to community discord and also an e learning course. That's full of tips and tricks and lots of things that we used actually to grow bronx pin strikes as well on top of that will help you get your show. 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What he wants out of his team so run a couple of these quickly and this thing about them. In the context of the yankees the yankees would be agree would be in agreement with bauer and sign him. Under these sorts of circumstances he said geography is not important to him so it doesn't matter where he signs fine. He wants to be happy. That's very vague. What's gonna make him happy. Well he talks about that. He wants to be allowed to train how he sees fit. And this is the first red flag. I think we'll come up with the yankees. Because i don't think the yankees was just have their players go out and train. They think they have the best method even though they may not and they want to control how their players are training. Yeah but but i think if it's if it's something that's out front and you're saying hey this is. This is how i want to do it. I think it's a good approach for our honestly. I don't think it's crazy. He's just looking for a team to be open minded and adaptable to the way that that he sees fit. And honestly the way that the yankees have shifted to probably within the same realm of their philosophy at this point. Maybe bauer can talk to some of the more injury prone yankees and say. Hey maybe do this instead. And you won't miss forty percent of the game. Bauer be our best athletic trainer on staff. He wants to be allowed to continue with momentum the media company that he has and this is another thing that i think might be a red flag for the yankees. I don't know if they want him being as involved in season as he will want to be. Okay look the arrogance. In the way that he does other stuff is is is one thing. You may not teamed up your cup of tea. The way that the way that he goes about things. But i appreciate the fact that he's laying this all out there and just saying okay. This is what i am. This is what i'm going to do. This is what i what i plan to do. Take it take it. You get me on the mouth you get all of you get everything but i'm gonna tell you what that is. There's nothing to hide here so this is wide open for every team that right but so so. That's something i think the yankees are talking internally if they are still considering bauer which i don't think they are. That will be certainly an issue. He doesn't want to be part of a rebuilt duh. Fine yankees are not rebuilding. He wants a team that will seriously consider allowing him to pitch every fourth day. There's no way the he's never allowed to this. This is where you lose me. this is this is. This is something that will that will affect the entire team. If he's coming in saying. I want to pitch every fourth day. This this affects the rest of the way that the pitching is laid out this affects. You know a lot of different philosophies on healthy this really comes into question too many too many things that are deeper than just. Trevor bauer that for that. I don't think he can. He can really lean on. Maybe he's just putting this out there to float it. But i don't. I don't see this as a a real possibility unless you're going to one of those teams. That's potentially a rebuild that that has a little bit more room to give you your coming to a contender one. There's things in place. there are people in place. You're not gonna come in and demand every fourth day. So let's say this. Let's say he could actually pitch every forte and remain healthy and still be at his his level of performance he then becomes like a forty five to fifty million dollars a year pitcher. Because that's an extra ten starts this season so that it out. Maybe if you average it out per start like all we're paying garrett cole x. amount of dollars. we're going to pay him x. Amount of dollars per start anyway. We'll now he's gonna make ten extra starts so he has to make more money. I don't know that's why he's doing it because he said all obvious talked about money as well and he wants to be paid fairly in what his market value is. I'm just talking about from a pure value standpoint. If trevor bauer could make forty starts forty one starts in a year which is what it would average out to pitching. Every fourth day he then becomes a forty five million dollars a year pitcher. I think that's what he's doing here. That's exactly what he's doing. He's trying to increase his his war. He's trying to increase his His production on the field by adding repetition or by adding volume as well. Here's the thing you can have all the data in the world and how your body is at its peak. What that data doesn't tell you is how it's going to age and how it's going to happen after after you're pitching every fourth day for whatever. The set amount of time is that data is incomplete. That data will not be complete until it actually happens until you're actually throwing real wet reps not not not dry not not dry humps. Wet home us. So there's there's there's are there dry pitches shirt. There's we've talked about this. You know you're be whips and then your your actions are be whips her like moist but your actual intense game day pitching is different than a bullpen session. No so you're you're trying to replicate this and you can't do it until it's complete so i'm walking in with this data on like okay your data's horse shit because i don't know how you're gonna react after you're actually doing this fall intensity and you want me to pay you based on those innings based on the fact that you're going to be pitching every fourth day there's a. There's a disconnect there because you have not actually put that on tape so he's positioning he's trying to position himself to a guy that can throw more innings get more production because this is what he saying he can do. That's not saying that his body will will cooperate. Yeah i think notice retreive hours. And i think he's overstepping right here yet and i don't see any team agreeing to that. Maybe he gets a couple of opportunities to pitch on four days. Rest if there's rain or if there's off days allow it for whatever. It is certainly in the playoffs if you need him too. But the the The there there's a there's a two sides to this him being very honest with what he wants his next team. Now if he doesn't get some of this stuff it's obvious and it's going to be talked about if he signs with the team and he doesn't get to do his momentum thing every day then that's a point of discussion. Sherpa i think are some Some things in here that are that are Dealbreakers and i have a feeling. That's one of them. I have a feeling this fourth day. Thing is is more. Just a okay. Let me let me push. Let me push the edge a little bit more. Let me push my limits. It's just him just like nudging even further to see how far he can get. It's the kid it's the three year old it's kemp trying to test his boundaries by looking me straight in the eye after i tell him not to do something and throwing that thing in my face. That's what is it's let. Let me just test so trevor. Bauer has trevor. Bauer is a three essentially. That's he's testing boundaries. More than anybody else has. So he's going to continue to push until people say no until he feels pushback and then he will readjust. I think this is one of those things. He can't tell a team what he his body will be like after pitching four days every fourth day all season. Long and then Now you're on a contender. And you're pitching in september and october in very very meaningful games. What does that mean. what is your body like. Show me the data there. You can't do it because it hasn't. It doesn't exist yet. do you think. Trevor bauer is getting worried because last offseason the two top pitchers on the market were signed by early december. No i don't think he's getting worried. Because i think you you look at some of the deals. Even the came late they still got paid. People got paid. No buster was forget coal signed in in early to mid december like the coal signing was like december tenth. Wasn't it yeah but even go back to a couple of years ago. When i mean darvish still got a pretty big deal late the cubs but hey our wants more than i think bowers gonna be looking at two hundred million. I'm talking about. I'm not talking about exact dollar to dollar. So i'm talking about the these guys getting what they wanted or getting paid very very well still towards the towards the end of free agency and you know in the in the beginning of when when people are reporting like it. It hasn't shown that they're getting they're taking less. I mean even even signed. Trevor bauer for fifty years. Fifty million dollars led him pitch every fourth day. Let him throw his arm out and then move on from him. After one year one year contract. Fifty million dollars. I guess but the risk there is that this four year three or four day thing is going to end in a disaster through the season and now you're paying fifty million dollars for a guy that was an asshole and only pet staff of season. You said there's no doubt that. Yes exactly what he is. I'm not saying that he's not of course he is but he's telling you that he is so. Do you still want sign them. Do you still want the yankees asylum. I think that they need to seriously look at that. What he's asking for. It does but they should not. What was the contract. You gave him in your gm plant. I don't remember what it was. it was I can look it up. But i don't remember exactly what it was. It wasn't small yet. Look it up and and if you're if you if you would do that say if you would do that deal again today so i'll run to while you're doing that. I'm going to run through a couple of news. Items that yankees added to their roster. Yeah believe it or not. The yankees of added to their roster. Nobody good so. Don't get excited. They signed jewel's josie jewels. Julie's chessen eight hundred thousand dollars. Guaranteed plus two hundred k incentives. He's a thirty two year old pitcher who has played for seven teams over the past twelve years in two thousand seventeen in two thousand eighteen. He pitch for the padres and the brewers and he was actually pretty good. Sixty seven game starts. Three hundred and seventy three innings. It's very durable three point. Six nine era nice four point one four fifth pretty solid one twelve. Era plus better than league average. Great if he's going to do that beautiful signing but since then he's been dog poop with the brewers red sox and braves twenty-seven games hundred innings six point zero six zero five point nine one fifth seventy five plus so i don't know what is this is a minor league depth piece for signing that the yankees made like whatever who cares. I have a couple of rotation thoughts that kind of hit me that. I don't think anyone has really mentioned. We haven't really mentioned this. Okay i first of all. She's seeing like to me is a no risk. Yeah depth piece. I okay pieces are you. There needed. Are you prepared if debbie garcia and clark schmidt pitching well in the rotation early in the season are you prepared for the. When are they gonna shut them down to cap their innings. Talk because that's going to happen. Yeah that's going to be annoying but right so everyone's talking about. Oh god debbie's garcia clark schmidt those are going to be too great op rotation options. What happens if they don't let them pitch more than one. Hundred sixty five innings which is their mo. it's so. this is even more reason. You need to add to the starting rotation. Because you can't count on debbie and schmidt to be and that's not just major league innings okay. People are like oh one hundred sixty five innings. That's great no. That's minors plus majors innings in inning is an inning. A pitch is a pitch. Look i have. I have never said that they should be relying on those guys. Shouldn't they should not be riding on this. I'm not yelling young. I know but that's but that's that don't think they need to add to this retention. That's how how are they gonna add to it. That's that's the thing like. How are they going to add to it. It's not in free agency. It's going to be via unless trevor bauer. But they would have to make a trade or or if you're looking at free agency that's the way it's trevor bauer. Yep and that's why. I always so tomoyuki sagata. The japanese pitcher we talked about has decided to go back to japan. I guess he didn't get any real offers from major league teams and he reportedly will test his free agency value next offseason as well. I think it was just bad. Timing for him honestly What's his name corey. Kluber will will be throwing for teams this week Twenty twenty-five pitches is are those wet or they moisture. They're dry like we don't know but it's going to be at the cressey sports performance so obviously the yankees will have some inside knowledge. There i think kluber could still be a rotation addition but not someone you can count on for for a full season. i think it's like total upside. Move if you sign corey kluber. That's the thing so it's yeah you cannot depend on him because he could be gone You know he could never served season. You could be gone midway. He could go the whole season. But that's probably the lowest percentage chance. I mean those guys talking about him like Yeah you're gonna get a guy that is maybe a middle of the rotation type player early on but could be a you know the cy young guy you see towards the end of the season. So we're we're acknowledging the fact that he's not gonna come into the season fully ready to go and at this little showcase thing. He's he's throwing like eighty you know high eighties at this point. He's not gonna show you do you. You're not gonna show you full full philosophy. What could he possibly do. Not he can't do it. So i if you're signing corey kluber basically all. You're looking for his medical report showing that he doesn't still have damage and the fact that he can just throw a ball twenty. Five times from a mound. No that doesn't that's what he's going to be displaying. Not dismaying to be clear display. So i don't know. I'm most worried about this rotation i know. Dj lament who needs to be signed. But if the yankees do not add to their starting rotation. they're not going to be very good next year. I agree. I had bauer something. He's not sitting right here. I feel like. I had more on. But i had From what i can find twenty five million dollars a the and signed one two three four five six years doesn't sound like i had a more than that but then yeah i did. I had five. I had five for one twenty five. That's not going to get it. Who knows because this offseason is weird and maybe no one offers him contracts. But i think it's going to be over thirty million eighty so looking at this what i had on here. I don't think that he would one sign a five year. Deal and certainly. I don't think he would sign it for twenty million so i. I'm going back on this. I think it's going to be a more short-term trevor. Bauer is definitely the guy who wants to bet on himself. Especially if he's pining for four four days he's not going to be a guy that's gonna sign twenty five a five years. This is not going to be that guy. So i think he's a he's a two year guy. One your guy. Three year guy max but probably a player option. It's going to be incentivized for him to make decisions. I think like a third year. Yeah i don't know there's speaking of weird incentive or not incentives but Options so the white sox signed liam hendriks two or three or fifty four million dollar contract. It includes a fifteen million dollars club option for twenty twenty four or fifteen million dollar buyout. I don't get that. It's giving them flexibility in in a way that he still getting paid. But it's fifteen million dollars either way. So i know it'd be paid out over a designated period of time the buyout so maybe it structured so they only have to pay fifteen million over the course of five years or something like that. So the disperses. You're a v. But just never seen anything like that where it doesn't turn never seen anything like that. It doesn't The the club option doesn't trigger anything else. No see if the club wants to pick him up for fourth year. He makes fifteen million dollars. If they don't want to pick them up they still pay him. Fifteen million dollars is just over a designated period of time. We don't know how long that is so so for helps with luxury tax reasons but it was a kicker that got him on the got him signed because they're trying to it does not help with luxury tax reasons because he's still guaranteed fifty four million dollars and technically his contract for three years. So it's three fifty four over three years. Is the luxury tax number. No i'm saying the number one dollars. Twenty twenty four season. No because even if it's spread out. Yeah it's because he's off the books he's not on the roster anymore right. You've already paid it so this only helps with real dollars to the owner on a per year basis. The buyout though you mentioned would be spread out right but that doesn't affect luxury tax. Yes so i don't know what the deal unless they're just trying to Help cash flow. But that's not a lot of money to help cash flow for a major league team. It's just it's just an odd thing like you always see. I feel like we're starting to see more and more like with the The the what did he. What it a super agent boris. Call the the pot deal first of all you call the wrong. Whatever it was it was. It was something else i got. Honey swelled papa. Don't i think it was actually not called that. It was so. I looked it up and it was something different to mispronounce words and say it was his. It was his own little terminology for the type of for the type of deal that he was concocting. I'd be curious what boris thinks of the liam hendriks deal I think that's going to do it. We we There's some more things to talk about. Nothing pressing we will talk about some mailbag questions next week. So keep submitting your mailbag questions. we got a good review about rahul baez. Which we'll talk about next week. The incomparable rolandas. I think we'll take a trip down. Memory lane maybe next week anything else you wanna you wanna touch on. There was there was some there was some language in that review saying that we potentially have not given him the appropriate love. You wanna do it now. Real quick all right so the review was from chad j. Herbert and he says love the pod. But there's not nearly enough talk about the exceptional rolandas cleaning up boys at the next event so our guy chad is calling for not talking about a banias. Rahul so cool epic playoff moment. We all remember rally game three two thousand twelve. Lds game three against baltimore. The series was tied. One to one yenkey. Were in the ninth inning down to By run and joe girardi. I don't think joe girardi gets enough. Credit for this move pinch hits for a rod. Yeah that is ballsy. that is some cody's there's no doubt it was. It was when you're looking at it happening. In real time let it was a a jaw dropping moment to say the least like to the the fact. That girardi did that and i remember the camera. Just going to a-rod the camera who's lived on era. I wouldn't be surprised. Rewatch this when the homerun was watched the clip. Because i pulled some audio for it which will play at the end of the show. But it was such fake excitement on arabs face. When the ball left the park you could tell. He wasn't really happy but he had to celebrate because they tied the game. But he's like. I wanted to be the one up there hitting the home. Run not roll binders. I'm alex rodriguez and got pinch hit for so it was very clearly. He was not really excited. Fake excitement from iran. But this was also kind of the beginning of the end for iran. Yeah definitely and girardi girardi when we look back on drugs. Tenure i think little moments like this are are interesting. Wants to call out because he definitely booked transit at times and was not shy about doing things the according to his binder no matter what that situation was as much as we we hated his binder for the pitching like he saw something there and just did it and didn't it didn't matter what the name on the jersey was. Not that there's names on yankee jerseys. It didn't matter what the number on their jersey was. he just did. This felt there was obvious he was able to do this. Because the d. h. situation he wouldn't have done this if if you know if if jeeter was up because you can't replace the shortstop so so the situation dictated he was allowed to do this but like it was a rod and he got pinch hit for when a solo homerun ties the game. Yeah one of the best home. Run hitters of all time got pinch hit for solo home run ties. The game is amazing in this and then and then it worked it word and then it worked. The emotions of that are pretty wild thinking about you. Know the fact that you're you're putting your keeping a rod staying on in the dugout. Raul baez is coming up. And then it works. A-rod had no chance against jimmy. Johnson which you will hear in the clip. The announcers talking about jim johnson. He's a right handed. Cinco ball pitcher erode was not going the best era was going to do is squeak rumble through the left side of jim johnson. It was going to be a single so it was a bad match up For for a rod but if it didn't work follow banias flies out to the warning murdered dramas for that suggest. Yeah no it's it's definitely one of those ones where you look back you know. That's that's an interesting thing right. There is just calling out these moments that girardi had i think Within his tenure. I bet there's a hell of a lot more of them than we. Then we all remember off the off the cuff But that's that's definitely one of w-w-we banias is now entrenched in playoff yankee's history. Because of what he did and you know the home runs that he hit but the season was pretty average. Four hundred twenty five plate appearances that season with the yankees. He hit two forty with a one. Oh three oh. Pm plus in nineteen home runs. Nothing special out of raul baez except that one night against baltimore which ended up being clutch for the series because the yankees won in five games. It was a close series. I remember. I was in spain during the series. I was in spain on work. So i was following these games at like three o'clock in the morning i was able to watch like bits and pieces because i was i was literally streaming the game on my phone and this was two thousand twelve so like streaming technology was not nearly as good as it is now so i was like getting bits and pieces of this of these games. I was not watching live when a binders hit the home runs. I was following on my phone when a by news hit home runs so i probably didn't even really know what was happening because it's hard to. I feel like we were in a chat or texting or whatever while. Remember you doing this When you're on a trip and trying to stream the game and you're getting a annoyed with like the service or something was happening. I vaguely barcelona like a. And i think it's plus five hours or plus six hours and these games were late. So i mean put. Possibly i was even waking up to watch these games. I wasn't even staying up like barcelona's like notorious city for for late party. Appreciate you were drunk. Yeah that's probably true. But i also had a really busy work schedule that week anyway it. It was an epic moment. We're gonna we're gonna end the show with the clip anything you want to say before we do that though signed. Dj that's it and every single time signed dj. Lemay hugh all right. Enjoy this abandoned heroics. We'll talk to you. Guys next week adds real. Pinch hit for rodriguez tonight. A sneaky suspicion the da squall. It might come down to this discussion. The last couple of bats. That alex had against jim. Johnson were didn't seem to have a chance on that sinking. And that's a tough match-up or any writing on is takes one ball those strikes you saw the power. Number's got nineteen home. Runs last week of the seems may hit a two run. Shot to tie a game which the yankees won in extra innings. This is a sacred that is right down the middle and his swings almost tailor made for all over the played uppercut swing sets back and this is the first time the crowd had a chance to draw a frenzy here. Stadium to two tenants hitting one seventy or below off of since being in the bullpen. Walk off win against all season. Put in three von. Yes did it to one for a second home. Run of the day this one the twelfth. Hey guys thanks for listening to the bronx pinstripe. 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Boomer & Gio Show Podcast (4/21/21)

Boomer & Gio

2:36:23 hr | 3 weeks ago

Boomer & Gio Show Podcast (4/21/21)

"Good morning boomer. How are you yeah. Good morning gene. I think you kind of captured away. I feel a little bit spoil disppointed. We'll say that to all my twitter people that wanted to let me know what happened last night. Of course. I saw everything that happened. I know what was going on. And i told you matt. He practices running into people. Yup and last night His hit one hundred percent clean it and by the way he got hit about twenty seconds earlier and then he came back and laid out jacob drooping i of course ranger fan. I hate to see that. He's one of our best. Players has been playing great and he got drilled. And you know that's playoff hockey in. The rangers found out last night that the islanders are not the devils and then the is found out last night that the rangers are not the bruins so it was an ugly ugly game from arranger standpoint. No question about it. I did not go to the game because then not only did. I not go to the game because i didn't want sydney to be mad at me. I'd want to sit through this slop last night watching it sure and it was his best game probably in their last four games and certainly they needed that they wanted it more than the rangers did last night it was clean it clean it. There's no question about that. And i feel bad for jacob driven because i don't want to lose the house quite as good as he's playing and really is a that can play playoff hockey. Because that's what last night was and again it goes to show you that if your top guys are not going to go to the areas in which they have to go to score goals and they had opportunities last night. Semi on varlamov was really good. You're not gonna win in physical bow. This reminded me last year at the end of the bubble for the rangers when they lost three straight and got knocked out by carolina is same kind of physical abuse. When you play the devil's who are a glorified ahl team right now. They know that we know that their fans know that even though they stormed back again last night. You're going to win those games because they just don't have the veteran presence that the islanders have in the in the islanders in their defensive zone last night were all over the rangers. There was very little space so it was a very disappointing laws. It's unlikely that the rangers going to make the playoffs under this current format. They probably would have made it under a normal format with normal divisions normal play but They have just been out physical by the islanders. They've been physical by the bruins. They've been out physical by the pittsburgh penguins. They kind of play well against the east to west. You know capitals but it was obvious last night bed. The rangers have a long way to go. They have a lot of young talent and that young towns gotta learn how to play. Nhl style hockey especially when it comes to close checking games as far as the knicks. Were concerned going back and forth with them. The fact that they held the charlotte hornets thirty. One points in the second half is key because it is about defense and you talk about the scoring. last night. they hadn't been scoring at all but now look at the way that they played defense inside their own. Blue line is the way the knicks play defense last night. In the second half yeah. Rj barrett got hot in the second half and they've found on the ball and even when julius randle doesn't have his best game the beauty of it is is that they are getting contributions from a lot of different people emmanuel quickly in the first half was one that kind of kept them a little bit in the game because he actually had a solid game. And you can't say enough about again taj gibson. You can't say enough about nerlens noel. All these guys playing their roles and it's and they're winning and that's the great thing they are now thirty two and twenty seven and they are rising and they are getting better as the season goes on. I still look at these. Next few games gotta win these next few games at home because they're finishing west coast trip is not going to be easy. Yeah and i think that of all the things this year old being potential coach of the year julius randle emergence all these great things that have gone on with the knicks emmanuel quickly and he was very good last night. I think the thing that is the most surprising and probably the biggest point of positivity for them is that rj barrack can shoot. Because i didn't think he was going to be able to shoot these rookie season. I was like this guy. You drafted a shooting guard number three overall in the draft. You can't shoot and generally guys don't go from the bad year that they had last year shooting do this but he figured out he worked as ask off and now he is someone that you know when he's got some space he's gonna drill that three and he's gotten better as the year has gone on. I mean that to me if you take and there's so many great things about this season but if you take one thing from this year. It's rj barrett's improvement shooting. And you got another one at the garden tonight against the hawks and this is a team that you want to beat you wanna get up to that four. See that four seed would be just amazing to be able to accomplish that i seven in a row. I mean it's just it's it's doesn't even feel real no it's actually great and they deserve all the credit and again i go back to. You know they they add derrick rose who is solid game again last night just a solid game and a presence out there that he's probably you know he's obviously not playing the way he played when he was younger and he was an mvp league or what he's playing he's playing really smart unselfish basketball like his game has changed. You think they can get some more people in there for the play offs. Is that possible. You know how the whole governor bill thing member was like all the pressure was on him to get people in the building for the bills playoff game and that was like the first time the allowed fans in building. Well we had to. We had to. Yeah well what about now with the postseason. We're gonna kill everybody's busy business but we're going to let people for the games well and i'm going to write a four million dollar book. I didn't i didn't want to get you going. I'm sorry to get you going. I was just thinking you assume so. I hope that. I hope they allow more museums. Zoos fifty percent capacity. That stuff is starting to happen. So why not. Knicks playoffs some more fans in there. What do you think well. Especially if they're vaccinated. Yeah and they had their proof of vaccination get vaccinated. That's that that's really the key to all of this stuff. I believe anyway. But i hope they do. I hope they do. This team deserves it. There's no question about it. The team is His basically kicked all of the expectations that anybody could have had for them and then last night the second half was really impressive. Thirty one points to an nba team in two quarters of the game. I mean just think about so tonight what the garden would be if it was a full house they gotta come out and then maybe i don't know if they'll be flat tonight. I dunno flat fact back. Play the team to head of no see by the end of the night. No don't flat me back to back. Atlanta's last game was two nights ago. The atlanta hawks. The last time they played was on it was yesterday it was last night. Say put back the all right. So let's go and they're the ones that are traveling that's right all right so let's go take care of business tonight and every time we've said this they've done that every time you've you've presented. That must win situation or go. Show us game. They seem to last time you call for. It was against the mavericks on a friday night on friday night. They did it exactly so you look at their schedule. And everything else. I hope they. They just have to take care of business at home if just assume that the five hundred on the road when they go out west. I don't know maybe they'll do better than that the way that they're playing but business at home and kind of feed off of what you're doing right now and the success that you're having but again remember it all starts with defense in the nba starts with you know stopping them from hitting threes and having open threes and then of course when julius i'm jewish reynolds having a great night and you don't really have to worry too much about the offense but when it's having a little bit of an off night shooting he still gets ten rebounds so he still has a double double but at sixteen ten is supposed to thirty five and ten now of something somebody else. Let's take over. And that's been kind of like the moniker. This team which has been good uncuffed side of the river. You know. Brooklyn's wins last night. But now they find out that horton's going to be out for even a longer time and they're not sure when he's coming back back to square one was the phrase that was used and that sounds terrible. Kyri was great. I mean he was a you watched him last night and he said i mean the thought i was thinking was you can have one of those guys. It's still probably say durant but kyrie was so good last night. I almost thought you're only have one of them might be the guy. Harden has had those games to understand the post season to me more kyri in harden have had those games than durant. Hasn't been around long. But i have one of those. I've seen durant be great and win finals. Mvp's i've seen kyrie hit a huge shot in game seven of an nba finals. I've seen james harden just all over himself on a postseason so james harden basically changes game when he came here. Well i mean. They need in the score. He scored if they need. Everything was houston to just not about the way that he had not the way that he had changed when he got here. When when guys were healthy now is a totally different story when he's out there by himself. Oh yeah that's right. It's kind of like. Cairo was out there by himself last night. Yeah i. This was the first time yesterday that i think that anybody who's been paying attention the net said. Oh this could be an issue now because all the whole framework in which we were talking about the nets was that we're going to get to the playoffs. There be fine and they're going to go at least at a finals and faced off against the lakers. But now with this hard news and you see kevin durant. Obviously out of the game with the contusion. It's the first time that you're saying maybe this really isn't going to happen. Maybe it's just one thing after another and it's not going to happen or about four four weeks from the playoffs. You know these soft tissue injuries you know all. I don't worry about four weeks from playoffs right. Sure or five weeks yeah. I'd have to do the exact math. Let's say so the season and it sounds like it's a strain so he's back to square one have to strain so the knicks last name. Here the strain. They're saying they're saying strain right. Well i guess they didn't say tare known right. Yeah so strain. But him he's been out for how long now and now he's only back to square one game that he played women's last game that he played james harden seventy. He's missed seven games. I believe he's probably going to miss the next seven. Okay so if he is well at least the next seven so the last game that he played was when he went out was april fifth. So that's a while now so now. You take april fifth. What's today the twenty-first. So what are we talking about. Sixteen days sixteen days so you're tacking on at least another sixteen days. Can you do that math in your head. How many days eight to thirty thirty two days. Total all right so then we're at least where may may first second somewhere that week. Maybe he comes back. He doesn't know okay but out indefinitely back to square one done pretty good you know. Watch them all quebec for the playoffs. All have fresh legs and just want to go and fresh legs still went this. Yes i see. These two guys contusion hamstring. Not be they come back. They get hurt again and they still win. I know they still win. But we're talking about and by the did elegance team. That's terrible stan. Van gundy go off again last night. I don't know. I jumped sure jerry l. habit if he did but i don't know any gundy all right so then we have two. Baseball teams played last night. Yankees finally finally get a win and it was not pretty and mike. Ford has to take a walk to force. Dj lemay. there's wild pitch him. you know. Both frazier anglade tours. Had the game on their bats. As did gary sanchez and neither one came through. You know frazier pops up the second base Gleyber torres short fly ball to center field. And then gary sanchez. not. I mean you know i mean i don again. The problems still persist but at least the yankees tried to do something about it. They sat down hicks and they were gonna sit him down and reset them like. I told join the. You're all over that. And now and of course they were gonna bring mike ford up and they were going to move. Dj lemay you back to second base so all of that stuff happened it did and they automatically better defensively with mike ford over there at first base which is a good thing but yeah they could have broken the game opening. Didn't you don't wanna get on him too much because they did win the game. I mean the only big hits come from jio or shell. He's the only guy capable of getting a big. It's amazing is that they go back to brett gardner. Mike talk men and mike ford. That's who they went back to the try to get something going sure because they had magic once before Let's see if we can recreate the magic and it's just a breaking ball out half to a righty that gets the yankees every time whether it's giancarlo stanton it's kleber torres. It's aaron judge. You get two strikes on these guys breaking ball out or half of the plate. They flail ed they strike out. They pop up weekly. They grounded the rollover ground ball. I mean it's it is even though they won last night. It's just it's frustrating as hell. These guys can't hit. I think pie palmdale said it. Last night he was talking about. How just taken the wrong pitches down the middle. And they're swinging at the wrong pitches because they're guessing. Yeah no he's taking it from on. I'll take his word for it because he was a great player but you know he tries to explain that that the guy in the batter's box is expecting a certain pitch and you could see him double clutch or just not swing. All he was expecting a he was expecting a slider. Here comes on ninety. Five mounir fastball. Right down the middle. And he's looking at it. I mean and that's basically what it seems like a big part of what's going on for the lack of offense from especially there's like five big guys in their lineup. Jor and mets lack of offense last night too annoying the part the sun was awful. Yeah i mean. Iran was. I know i know walker got thrown out. Yeah he did but after he was taken out he was young. Barking is on his way to feel. Yeah but even area was a little ticked off last night. Yeah i mean if you go back and you you look at the box you know. A lot of those pitches at taiwan walker. Wanted when he's walking the ballpark and walk in a run in it. They were outside of the box. If you want to say that the box is the be all end all but it just felt like they were so close and he wasn't getting any of the area it was actually hitting the box and having balls called so i mean that was a tight. That was a really tight. Strikes homeless and indoor has an opportunity to be a hero bases. Loaded two outs against kimbrel in the top of the ninth first-pitch grounded a first game over so that was one of those moments that when you think about his contract you think about who he. Is you think about superstar at least one a little bit of a better at bat than that. But they've still still a couple of games over five hundred. This is not a day the go hammer time going hammer. Time on the mets. When i don't have time on lindores yeah the hammer time. Hunter range at all day. Long got hammered last. Yeah that is true and you probably did as well. After watching that game. I would imagine each morning show with boomer esiason and greg boomer and geo. What's happening jerry. Good morning your morning. We're brought to you by town fair tire. Nobody beats town fair tire. No buddy and right. Now nobody's beating your new york knickerbockers and we're also watching. Rj barrett turned into a star right in front of our eyes cross court. Tabarik tries a free from the corner. Threes j barrett and regain. The way was so. This is not me looking at this through knicks. Colored glasses right. You're also seeing this that this guy is he's actually legitimate player. I'm glad that jerry gray. I i never understood the take that he was a bust so quick when he was nineteen years old. It wasn't about him. It was about these other guys. It was about the knicks and how they missed a lot of draft picks and then when he wasn't great out of the box. And then you'll said john maranto zion williamson who were a just took on a life of its own. And it wasn't his fault i just think when we're draft kids. Nineteen twenty years old to give them a year or two some guys that takes a few years and this kid hasn't taken that law. How how long does it take enjoys randall. To get to this point is taken him a while to get what five or six five or six years. You still only twenty six. And he's finally arrived where he understands what the nba game is. His game is reflected that and he's been a great example for rj and he's been a great example for quickly and all. Those guys is the same thing to be said for new orleans noel. And how long. He's been around and taj gibson. How long he's been around look. They're not. They're not winning a championship. But you know what they deserve all the credit in the world for giving us what i think is about as unexpected season as we could as we have had around here from one of these teams. They're taking steps. That's for sure they win. One nine ninety seven over the hornets last night the winning streak is now seven and they were all atlanta by a half game more on that in a moment first. Here's tom sibito. In terms of dealing with success team has to stay grounded. They are thirty two and twenty seven. We'd have to make sure that we don't get lost and we stayed focused on. What's in front of us. Here's reggie block on. Msg afterwards he had sixteen points. He says we have a good mindset as a club. I'll focus we come in every day We're not looking at the. You know the wins that we put together but at the same time just locked in on deficit vanity knowing that we can win every game stuff and put our jerseys on. We're focused on the defensive end. Isn't that music to my ears. I know and not a lot of teams are so when they do get to the postseason. They're going to be a little bit of a pest. They only gave up so they give up sixty six points in the first half and they really clamped down on the second giving up just thirty one. Derrick rose just bowing to randall as the difference maker you have a player like the The hockey assist is always going to be going to be there Where you always try to look. He's always improve his game. And so we mentioned the fact that they are a half game behind atlanta. The hawks remain there because they picked up a win last night over the match. So now the hawks have it in the lane. Sue john. John was up and champs with elvis. Cut that one. Ninety six seventy nine hawks on top and now the magic will bring it up a time. Oh that's hawks radio. They go to thirty two and twenty six as they have one less loss than the next trae young had twenty five. That was john collins with the alley. Their landed themselves have won eight of ten. And so then you tell me this. I said the elder in the warm up. Show monday through friday. Five to six on the fan Prior to boomer and geo Biggest regular season knicks game since went outside since lin sanity. I think you'd have to agree with that right sure. Yeah no absolutely. There was never a game after that. That had any sort of meaning in the regular season. They've been so terrible. No it's it's yeah that's an easy one. Yeah for sure. I mean i. It was a couple of this year that have been big buyer but this has a feel to it of course and it's a home game i mean i just i'm thinking about what that place would be like if everybody was allowed in the building but we know that can't happen right now but yeah no it is. It is a huge deal man and they're not coming out flat. They know it. I know this is going to sound crazy but last night. In between one of the periods Bill pedo was showing some highlights from the russian championship cage series. Okay and it looks like the building was fall. Really yes to me. It looks like the building was. Couldn't tell i don't know if they have any restrictions over there in russia We didn't. They were the first ones with their own vaccine. That's right the putin vaccine supposedly they didn't want any of the russians taken any of the maderno or pfizer because it has the m. r. n. a. n. then therefore americans can turn out of stupidest but anyway it looked like that. That stadium was full. You say in plain knicks hawks in russia. Is that what you're saying. Probably get a full house okay. The might be a little different unbelievable. Talk to both of these teams have meantime. The nets were in new orleans. We found out Last night that james harden had a setback sounds awesome and kevin durant did not play again but kyrie irving did and boy did he hit the big shots down the stretch approaching a minute to go next to the ball and two point lead irving has it now across the court line. Kyrie straight away kyrie gonna by marshall moving left stints back right. Fadeaway guard for tyrod serving. That is chris carino hall on the fan. Yes kyri went for thirty. Two points eight assists a couple of gorgeous turner on jumpers and. That's the beating the pelicans. One thirty four to one thousand nine as they move. Twenty games over five hundred to thirty nine and nineteen lots of role players. Picking it up. To joe harris at twenty four landry shamet had eighteen blake griffin and other strong game. Here was steve. Nash though are irving just outstanding. The other day he meets us there wasn't a ton of movement on on the last three possessions. So tip your hat to your star. Player makes shots and yeah. He did serving in terms of harden. Open does get back team in one of his teammates. We just wanted to be as healthy as possible. The level of play that is needed in the in the playoffs on that main stage is totally different than the regular season. So we'll see if and when harden does make it back but he isn't a strain aren't those small tears is that what a strain is man. I don't know i don't know anymore. So a polling strain or two different things. I always thought so boomer. I always felt like pull is like a complete tear. Were maybe a lingam or something rolls up on ya see. I thought a poll was the least of the war. Go here a hamstring strain that that is when one or more of the muscles get stretched too far and starts to tear mu so there is some terraced in there we do. We've got something torn all right hamstring. But what sucks about it is. It seemed like he was on the road to recovery and was coming back any day now square one all right great one this team from day one when they signed kyrie irving and kevin durant two years ago has been on the road to recovery. You have to admit that. Yeah and through it. All there are thirty nine and nineteen which is amazing and did stan van. Gundy go off last night. I haven't gotten to that yet. I don't know the answer. I wonder if i don't know that he did. Because it would have been everywhere. Like it was two nights ago Nets do play the raptors in tampa. Tonight we will have that for you on the fan. I will get to some baseball. Yuki i mean this game was boring the yankees to win. They did beat the braves. It'll be an old one and the right hander. Deals in the dirt. I got away hicksville. Scar dorados move up the aggies. Take a two one lead. That's john and they did last night. Gio or shell. It did have a home run. The tied the game in the fifth but other than that there was not much in this game. Yankees win three one. They would score their other run later in the inning on a bases loaded walk And so a win is a win is a win. Aaron boone beaten the braves and that losing streak is over. Definitely nice to get a goal and You know again. Obviously what they got going parable unless now unless he's talking strictly about the winning or winning with i gas but i mean they had five hits. They came up so empty and big spots whatever. Go or shallow says who cares. We want regains important. It is important to get their confidence back and trying to to keep the good war The of the much-needed home. Run their jameson tyrone five innings and then he and five relievers allowing just six. It's themselves he says for him. The extra work has paid what i was. Most excited about. Was just the stuff that i worked on in between the outings. I thought showed up today in so he didn't get mazing. The cubs are the worst hitting team in the majors. The yankees are the second worst hitting team in the majors cubs have a team batting average of one eighty nine and the yankees have a team batting average of two. Oh eight how about that. It's been brutal and watching the hit anywhere into well. I guess if you're the cubs if you've got jd davis playing all you gotta do. Is the him So let's get to them. Is the best hitting team average wise in major league baseball right all right. Hold on i. i'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say this is the red sox. Yes okay good one. Yeah sure talks the leading hitting team but followed by the angel's reds nationals. Dodger the reds. Wow a red threads are listening to these averages for these teams the reds are batting to sixty one and they are the third best average hitting team in the league about that. Well i mean teams advertise retail mall of fame. We talk sport you just pumping out stats man. Speaking of not hitting and yes. There's no question about it that jd. David screwed them last night. But so did The home plate umpire will call him. John booby lipka. Because he was killed. I don't know. I just kind of made that up He he certainly was has issues behind the plate. But you also had the mets. They had their chances to bases. Loaded ninth inning three one game. All right you've got your big three hundred million dollar man at the plate with two outs doro for three war. Kimbrel from the stretch bases loaded first pitch swing bouncing ball to the right side. Rizzo has it built taken to the bag. Himself on the ball game is over the cubs. hold on. put that in the books. You gotta shine how he railed bases-loaded nothing happens ballgame over game over three one mets fall to the cubs last night since boomers just pumping out stats and we're doing like hardcore baseball. Talk hardcore baseball. Take you know. I understand that the pitch again might be the best pitch the at-bat but when the bases are loaded and your lynn door and you've got your reputation being a great hitter. Don't you wanna put a little bit of pressure on the pitcher and not just swing at the first. Especially after he walked two guys we ground out the first base. And i understand the philosophy is. He's gonna want to get a ball over after walking. A couple of guys is might be the best pitch but it's still frustrating when you swing that first pitch and of course the result is what it is. So there's my hardcore baseball take a boy. I think it's what you said when the result is what it is it looks bad it really bases loaded. You're not wrong pressure on. The guy thinks these days swung at a curveball. To he was as they call it. Fooled taiwan walker. The loss three runs to six walks. Over three and two thirds. He was ejected as he was walking out. Lewis row haas got objected later in the game. Because see wasn't happy with the home plate empire petitions a some bitches now. I thought we should gone. That were called against us. So yeah so. That's the way that went here was walker not thrilled with myself. Six walks in a star is never good at thirty third. Just kind of lots of bill for the strike zone. Oh he did he Lot of pitches in less than four innings of work. And so the mets fall the seven and five the cubs go up to seven and nine on the season. Eric zogar did have an rbi single in the fourth. Also scored in that brutal. Throw by j davis over to i meantime The phillies played. The giants phillies. Had a lead innings. Got late go to their bullpen. You bring in a reliever connor brogden. And where are they now. His name is wilmer. Flora's he sitting dinger's for the giants pitch basketball. There's a swing and there's a high drive deepened into left. Leeann way back their patios three rod homer and everybody's doing second three run homer of the inning for the giants philadelphia. Bullpen giants radio. That was the flora's pinch hit three run homer and the giants wound up winning. They put up six runs in the eighth inning and they beat the phils tend to say that i will say for mets last night. Their bullpen was great. Yeah yeah no. They just need to hit that. They haven't done all year. Really neither the yankees. They haven't the differences. The mets are two games over five hundred whereas the yankees are still fighting their way back right. How about this. This is amazing to me. So we're talking about teams that can hit and teams that can the raise beat the royals fourteen to seven austin. This is one through four in their lineup. Meadows arose arena. Wendell and lau combined for eleven hits five rb seven runs scored. It's amazing the race They want fourteen seven. They beat the royals last night. Zander bogart's at a home run a three run shot. Red sox beat the blue jays. Four to matt harvey through five innings and the orioles. Beat the marlins seven five and yes. Harvey did get the win from three runs over five. Yeah and the dodgers. This is classic old school baseball. Evan roberts must have had just a moment with himself because the dodgers shut out the mariners one nothing any idea how many hits in this game total for both teams. I'll guess three boomer. I will guess a four three three hits in the game that was it. There were a million strikeouts. My hands down my cory seager at an rbi single and that was it one. Nothing la beat seattle yesterday afternoon and former met Neil walker announcing his retirement wanted a best guys. I've ever met in sports when he was in. Pittsburgh came here to of course i know teams so no he was that guy is is one one of the old timers as far as good guys go so good for him big game on the ice last night. Although it didn't turn out to be for boomers blueshirts halfway through the third periods of three goal lead for the islanders as banjo got into green mobility and look for more beauvillier behind his back up. One and that is brendan burke shove thank g islanders. Beating the rangers six to one big turning point according to some as the matt martin hit jacob trueba who left true but dazed and confused as he skated off the ice with some help. It was scoreless at that point and the islanders just clobbered them from every ranger from that point on was looking over their shoulder and by the way your devils lost last night seventy six but it got closed because as one of the weirdest game they were losing six nothing. I never heard of a team. And i don't know i'm sure it's happened. That has six goals in a period and lost the game theory period at six third period goals last night and listen to matlock lennon chico. They got so excited when they almost got all the way. Back out there for pittsburg can't control along the near wall. Forty seconds to go is it has. I didn't go h in front any push it home with thirty nine. Four two seven six. Hey listen when you're eleven games under five hundred will have more than it actually with the same thing to the rangers and the rangers carried that over in ti owners. You know the the rangers get out to the big lead and then all of a sudden jersey would come back flying back in the third period and almost come back and win these games. I just like chico guilty. At the end of the he six goals in ohio. It's pretty wild but still lose to the penguins. Seven six sidney crosby goal turned out to be the difference in washington football team tight end jordan reed announcing his retirement because of lingering issues from multiple concussions. All right thank you. Jerry beats the morning show with boomer esiason in gregg giannotti boomer in o. Was on the mound for them tonight. It's corey kluber and he is been brutal so far for them and that was one of those guys that they took flyer on hoping that he could return to former greatness than is not like every team takes flyers on guys. That just tries to figure out what's going to happen like you know even like with michael wocka for the best slash year Who's the pitcher for this year. The raise this year. I mean he just never. You never know what these guys. They're all over the place. I feel like in the starting rotation for almost all of the teams are two or two or three guys that like projects and corey. Kluber is one of those projects. I mean this guy was one of the best in baseball was was but i mean so if you think about the mets last year porcello in walker. They took flyers on those guys. Neither one really worked out. So i mean it's it's still early for kluber but i mean it felt like one of those things that to work out when he was when he was signed it just eventually. He's either got a got a performer. Brian cashman's going to have to do something here. Another retirement the second retirement of the season. Jay bruce and corey kluber after that you. I've got a. I've got a problem. That i just have a problem. I do i need. I need to address this. I can't take my eyes off. The head of billy giacolone so for those of you who might have missed the show where we were joking around about teasing him for thousand dollars so we were having fun. We were messing around. Say we're gonna as billy giacolone. We're going to light them up for thousand bucks on the day that our ceo is ringing the bell at the new york stock exchange. So you've got up to four thousand dollars. Somehow it did that was for pepper spray. And we're gonna electrocuted double double electrocution and pepper spray. Right for four thousand. So we had them in here and we were having some fun. Whatever but in the course of that conversation. One of your friends said that billy giacolone has got a head tattoo. Yes he's got a hairline tattoo and then ever since then that's all i can look at so that day. I stared at his head. And i was just locked in on it and now when i pass him because we pass him in the cbs newsroom every morning. And i say hello a billy and then even after the show. He's sitting in that same seat and say bill. You have a good day. I'm staring at his head now. The the problem is he knows it now because what happens is you. I confirm that to you that he knows that. You're looking at him now fixated on his tattoo on his head. It's one of these things so like when looking at them. I'm not looking at his eyes and then i'm staring at his head and then i looked down at his eyes and he's looking at me like he doesn't say anything but sort of like he's looking at my hand. Does he think you need to have a conversation with him i do. It's gotten to that point. 'cause i did and i can't. It's one of those things. I can't you know somebody might have lazy. I need staring at the lazy. I all the time. Somebody has sti- in there. I something like that. Or if somebody just had like a facial done and they had like their skin ripped off their face. And you can't help but look at it. I mean i'm still. I'm staring at it. I can't get away from me. i understand. And here's the thing. I'm not staring at it because it's some sort of horrible thing. I'm staring at it because it looks so real. You and i can't get over it. The man's got a hair line tattoo on his head. That looks so real. That i'm just obsessed with it. I'm like how is that. Not real air. Yeah that's why. I think you should do it out. It's so good. Geo asked me if i find myself staring at it. It's so good. I had forgotten right that it's a tattoo i know. So that's why you should get one. But i hear now. He's wearing a hat out. There is not so he must've he d. There's an issue here. Yeah there is. 'cause 'cause i i said. Hey this is what i'm doing. Hey billy looking looking up right over his eyes and let's face it for the last eight months you've had a fixation with your own hair. I have yeah. Maybe this is something that is happening to you over time. Do you look genus hair that way. Sabrina zhair daughter. No i don't know know anybody else's had my head that well no i don't know it's really accommodates hair. No i mean i'm used at. He's hair okay. He's a real long hair and big ponytail and everything else. I'm used to that. I didn't look at jerry's eyebrows you do know but you've probably got used to that at this point they're real and they're they're bush's the thick yes But fix some bitch picked extreme bitch eyebrows but with giacolone i can't i can't i can't get over. How real it is so is so. What do we do about this. Because i don't think you need to have any more awkward encounters with him. Yeah i know. And i already had an awkward encounter with. This is the second time prior to his hair tattoo. I would always ask him about the nets in the morning and then he would just answer me before i asked the question on. I'm going on that guy now. Who is just says the same thing every morning to the guy so then i had to adjust that and now i'm in a spot with him where i'm just staring at his head all the time. So do so. We put the bed here. Live or do you do it outside the live. Maybe it's just one of those guys where you just can't have any interaction at all with him. You just ignore them get off. What time does he leave here. Yeah i think it's around. He gets very early. Does the sports minutes. I think maybe around noon eleven eleven. Okay all right. Well i think that first of all i think you have to ask him if he's okay to discuss this live because obviously it's a problem for you because you're you're feeling it so then you sense that he's feeling what you're feeling. He's obviously feeling and now because he's gonna hat on. I four kid to spend all the money on tattooed. He's got a hat but it looks good. It does staring at it. I think we need to see if he's we can come in here. I'll i just get this over with now. Als letting his hair grotto little bit right now. So kind of looks like a billy. Jock owns heads. Just laziness on my does your head looks like his head now but except for the top of your head. Well that's the thing he giacolone didn't like that. Look of the what als. Her male pattern baldness rite aid. He liked the full head of hair so he's got a full head of hair now but it doesn't have a full head of hair tattoo blowing my mind. You and i would've never even thought about that. No and that's how good it is but that is the result here. I think this is. I'm going to resolve this. I'm gonna let him know that how much you love them. How much how good it looks. I'm gonna continue to reinforce that but does that. Mean you're still gonna awkwardly. Look at it when you see it. I'm just probably because. I'm kind of like when you stare at a very beautiful or anthem burson. I mean 'cause. I'm i'm drawn to it so i'm going to tell him as listen when you see me staring at jed just no. I'm admiring it. I'm not looking at it thinking that it's weird or anything. I'm not trying to make you feel self conscious. It's like what seinfeld said about cleavage. You glance you look and you move on. Yeah hard to decline. So yeah yeah it is. But he's going to be saying is down instead is up to you. Yeah no. I'm locking in on this. And he's catching me. That's not only had on. He he put his hood up as he put his. Hold up down to you he. He was editing something. He said he'd be in as soon as he's done with that man. Oh man look at him dedicated to his job. Yes dedicated to his job. Did you tell him why we needed. They said deals having an issue with just like i pointed at my head. Yeah the whole hair or not his issue. It's my issue. I need him. I said geos having an issue with the whole share relation. It's so good it's really good and it only cost hundred dollars. He said how. I buy that for you. I actually think it's more maintenance because his hair is growing in you gotta shave it anyway. If you could tell me you could do that. And i would never have to shave my head again. No more maintenance. I would consider it but you see but the differences. His tattoo comes over his entire head. You have nothing on the top of your head and for people who live in the side side stuff. Right male pattern baldness classic situation but for the people haven't seen this this head tattoo. If anybody's confused he eats not like you got a design on his head. He's he's got a hair tattoo and it looks like hair. We'll just to make it more often when he comes in and take a picture of it in tweet it out. Yeah we're gonna take a picture on your phone and you can look at it all day long that to you. I'm going to be showing 'em and maybe if you do that will quench your desire to look at it them. You won't awkwardly. Look at them. Yeah and then. I could zoom in without him knowing and stuff. Yeah just take a look at just whatever fulfil whatever emptiness that i'm having with this or whatever the thing that i need the stare at all right so what we'll do. Is these these obviously working hard. This billy jacqueline so he actually does something out there other than sit there and then get ogle that so we'll take a quick break. One person you there's gotta be others there has to be there has to be others. I mean you. You hadn't thought about this. I haven't stopped thinking about. Oh i haven't. I haven't even once we're done with that segment i was done with. It really had. This had pretty much the way i handle everything around here. Yes what's that al. I think it really gives them confidence though too because like his like. I'm facebook friends with them. His facebook profile is like. Oh yeah calm. Confident competent picture. Yeah like hey look. I don't know if it was like that old time but after he's single yes. It ain't helping. Who knows hasn't had a chance really in these weird times. How does that work. What do people do they say. Hey you know with their tinder dates and stuff. Did you get tested. That's probably what they do. I guess maybe you'll get a rapid test or something before you hook up. Yeah rapidly vaccinated hair tattoo vaccine waxed or did it go. 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Look for the carlos watson show in real talk real change on youtube and subscribe or download the carlos watson show for ever get your podcast keeps the morning show with boomer esiason and greg naughty boomer and geo we offered him anywhere from one thousand four thousand dollars to get teased double taes double taste and pepper sprayed and then of course we didn't because we were just having fun he did get a couple of hundred bucks for that and we learned a lot about billy during that interview that interaction we had with him and ever since he revealed that he has a hair tattoo a hairline tattoo and you could see him on. Cbs sports network with this This beautiful head of his. I haven't been able to stop looking at it now. I'm sure you've noticed. I can tell you noticed every time after the show when i walk by. I'm going right to the head i'm going right up. Pasture is. I did it again this morning and then i'm looking away quick so what i need to convey to you to get this off. My chest is understand. That my obsession with this. It's a compliment. Because i can't get over how good it looks. Thank you greg. It looks for all right but you obviously have noticed that i've been. I've been looking at this to be honest with you. I haven't you have no see. I knew it. I knew it was just your own perceptions. And i knew that he was talking himself into something but he was also claimed that you are a hat and then al said you had the hood on. I thought it was my fault right because like i stared jihad this morning when i was coming into the studio and then you said all men now everybody staring at the head. I gotta put a hat on. No no no i. I'm not a hat guy. Yeah i'm a hood guy all right. 'cause i always wear hoodies no matter regardless of temperature. Whatever will plus. It's always cold in here but that's another. That's another topic. But i like i like throwing the hold on plus. It's early whom you see this thing. Look this thing. it's early in the morning. Your right. I know it looks great. I mean i offered to buy it for al. Offered to buy it for al. I did because we're all marveling at how good it looks. And how real it looks does our wanted do it. I said i would do it if if i didn't have the maintenance like you still have to shave your head right. Yeah but that's just part of the routine though you're going to do it anyway. It's already part of the routine. So i mean now you've got a full head of hair and think about it and by the way you know so al-said earlier it's it's jewish staring at your head is if you're walking around with a busty cleavage. The i can't can't let's his is and then you feel bad and then you'll get caught and like that. That's that's that's what's going on up but you're not so good. I feel better doesn't feel the way that you thought felt. I don't want you to think. I only see you for your head billy. Well i mean we've known each other for a long time. we have. Yeah so it's it's okay. it's totally fine. We didn't know that you had a to head write. That speaks to more reason why al should get it. It's been consuming me. Are you ready. You want to get it out. I don't think i want to get it. But it's very good. Like i said even after he was in here last time i when i see his head. I don't think that's a tattoo. I i'd still seems like his hair can. Cbs split the two of you on on tv so we could see the difference. And i just wonder if you would really like to consider this because you like it right now. It looks great because it looks like he has a thick head of hair that he's decided yes right. He shaving his decision. That's the point though. This is so deceptive. It shouldn't be allowed. This should be illegal. It looks so take your. Take your headsets off. What's it can may split the. I'm sure they're trying. I'm sure steve waldron's having a cow air right. They put your head down billy and yeah i mean straight. It looks that big bald spot. Well yeah yes we got it. Look at that. Look at how much better billy looks. You can look up to see new one. Oh man oh is that look great. You know who if al doesn't wanna do it. I betcha sal licata would he would salvador it. Yeah i mean. He was gushing over the flowers that you sent him for him and his wife in the baby like like he's never gotten anything in his life before. Okay he was like man. Oh man i tell you. Boomer boomers everything every man should ever be. You know he really is my wife and my mother you know that were so happy. It made my day all good. I mean the guy. The guy had a baby was like man. I don't know what to do. This is crazy. Like i'm gonna pass out and then it gets flowers from you. And it's like the greatest life priorities wack tweeted out the flour. Picture everything even see right. So i'm sure he would take just about anything. He might take a picture your head at on his head now. I'm just saying that. South like work with us specifically like alba's you know. I know but alan is going to do it. And they wanna go in half with sal. Yes i would. Yeah she'll go in half and you gotta go to billy's dr. Yeah wab. i'll provide you with. The information is dr or tattoo artist. No it's it's like a hair specialty. Please like tattoo lose. No well no. It was like i saw from westchester. So the closest tattoo placed by me as up in white plains. So i didn't just go up there and be like. Hey let's do this today. no you know. It's a specific procedure and it was only nine hundred dollars. We'll have made it's around nine thousand but it depends on what you do. Usually it's two sessions and you just did the one cent. Yeah we could pay for another one billy sessions too. I'm good with it the way it is or you're happy with i think it's i think it looks good. Yeah i think anymore because you just want it to be so like so. When i shaved my head i use a razor shaving cream the whole nine whatever but i still have the color on the side of mashed told out this. So with harry's they have four blade razor and a six played razor what works best. Obviously i have thick hair so you also six would be right before i thought i figured a four because the blades would be spread out a little bit. And what point do you tally. Potential girlfriend that this is. What's going on in your head. You know what i'm saying. You i wouldn't say i don't to say anything but see here's the thing though is that this is now my head. It's not like it's just. It's not like it's removable. This is now his head. I thought of it. That's it that's my head we'll think about do have any tattoos. Greg not do. Minnesota vikings tat. All right that is now your arm or wherever it is you have it. Yeah everybody sees that. And says it's not a birthmark. Right misrepresenting what it is. Everybody knows how about this. How about this. How i once had this. This just puts it back another way but it's still a misrepresentation i. I don't think women are even aware this is a thing that or what that shaved head feels like so. I don't think a woman whatever the still have some hair top to better for you. If you felt that. I think it would. I think i'm allow i think. No i think. Just put your mask on. i don't wanna hear spine. Just come over here touching. Am i allowed to talk to you. Dr fauci says raw. Good now get over there and touch it touch it robert puch view and this maybe will calm you down to hands on his area. Oh yeah see that. Feel like rewarding and therapeutic and gotta go yeah see. There's still here the area you do that. No i'm not gonna vote need to give him one of those you want. You want me to give him a nogi. Give him a nogi. I'm telling you nobody would know nobody would know ninety sanitizer so you've gotta clammy head won't see. This was the see if next time you want to do this. I'll come in after a fresh shave or i'll shave right. You know but during a break and come back. The other thing is the hair still produces as mine does the oils. So you can't just rub any bald guy's head. It's their oily heads. We have to say something. Yeah this whole thing was about your. Yeah is your issue now. Solve it is it is now so like now you can look at him without staring at his head just on. What is now you felt this. Hey or or you had a little taste and now you're going to want more. I may. I may have to rub it every day when i come in here. Just grab it and palm like basketball. How about this. How about if would you be okay. So the way. My bald head was which is still bold but see. It's the kind of confusing. But with the hairline of the head. And all that and the horseshoe would you rather look at that. No no no. I would i. This makes your house head. This is what a dumb enough to rubbing oily heads this morning. But the thing i'm obsessed with now is you're not telling the truth to a significant other and let's say you get to the point where you're about to have children and then you have children you say well you've still got a full head of hair or our kids are going to. Have you have a son or something at sun's gonna have a full head of hair and then you've been lying the whole time and then genealogy and everything you got to tell the second date i gotta tell. You can't go into that relationship with the foundation of lies zero explanation to an. Are you kidding me. That's who he is. You either accept him for who he is or not. Just what if someone had a nose job or something. So what no you ever tell them this stuff at a boob job. Well then you figure out all right so just because you could tell it doesn't mean that you know but the all of a sudden because you can tell that person doesn't have to tell you busty cleavage but the point is that this is so deceptive that i feel like you need to disclose to the most important people in your life. That's where i'm going with this. Jay in connecticut jay. What's happening jay. What's going on one of the thoughts about the hair tattoo. Yeah okay got one. I just got my fourth session last week. There we go fourth session. Yes so how. How significant is yours. Well i had also had a scar on the back of my head. i got camouflaged and he also I did four sessions because it just comes out a lot better My head was you know. I had my entire had done so it looks like you've got a full head of hair at this point at the hundred percent. Nobody has any idea. Everybody thinks shave my head. Wow wow well good for you. But you did four sessions billy owing one. How many people did you tell about this. J just close friends and stuff you know people working all you just use your head on my hip. that's it. well there you go good for him man. How about casey in parameters casey what's up. Hey what's up guys. Big fan of the show. I watch it every morning when my son going back to the haircut to one of my best friends just got it. He was on his way to go get it. I tried everything impossible to talk him out of. It was the stupidest idea once. I saw it. I am a total believer. Looks one hundred percent. Legit friends of all people are total believers. Yeah no i know. I'm a believer to casey. Thanks i just feel like full transparency. So they're selling s. ny in the studio. Yeah we gotta do sal. We'll get so if allies out out on this thing. You're definitely out. We'll do it for south. We'll all right. So sal doesn't not yet it'll be sort of like hey your now. Here's your gift like boomer gotcha to flowers boomer and geo we're going to get your hair tattoo and he'll look great. You set them up with this show. Of course i will. Just sal has a nice bald head though as people audion here today he is here. He had his heat. Doesn't have a lot to work with 'cause pete pizza's better to stay the way it have like a little pin because he doesn't because because because because you need to have pigment on the sides to make it work sounds like he doesn't want everyone to have this long. He wants to be the hot guy with look for south they can work for. Pd doesn't have enough pigment. none of pigment. So what's the problem with south. No no. I'm just saying if if my ball ted was like that i would keep. Actually you know what. I take that back i take that back. What do you mean. if you're bald head was like that you would keep it. He just he has. it's framed it's just. It's fine the way it is. What was wrong with your bald head. I just wanted to change it up. You just don't want to als right. You don't want anybody getting this thing. You wanna be the hot guy in town with the shaped head. That's what you want unbelievable. We're going pitch this to al. I mean sow. We already pitched it to how he said. No we're gonna pitch to sal. And i think he'll probably he'll probably want it. Why wouldn't you want fill your head greasy. It has seen this real hair there house with you. He's got like real hair. So does billy touch. I have real hair on top to. Why wouldn't you want that feel it. Feel billy's i'm telling you it's crazy to blow my mind. What would you want that al. I feel like i've gone way too long. Being this bald that it would be very noticeable for me to show up with hair like that. Can you do me a favour. Usually ask you to go run and do a lot of things. Can you get the prisoner hand. Sanitizer out there. That was awesome thing member that in may and april. We had this prisoner hair. a hand. sanitizer being made by felons yes. Killing germs. made by felons This is a good question chris. Amityville what's up. Chris is what happens when he gets older. When you're eighty years old you're gonna have this. I don't know what color your hair is dark hair. You're going to be thirty years old with this. Big dr houghton hair good question. Good question chris billy how about that when you're old dark head of hair grey beard wrinkly skin may not match. We'll no because okay so first of all it doesn't last for the rest of my life. It will fade over time. Okay all right. So i mean i'm thirty one so that's a while not permanent. We'll worry about that when we exactly right exactly caught right healing two chicks not gonna tell them the truth about no i will allow. What point will you after sex before. Sex doesn't matter yes dog. you don't have to tell anybody you gotta tell them no. He doesn't he to disclose this not herpes level disclosure. But it's on that. I go after after after sex for sure. Because there's at least you have sex ones right. Here's when you you do it when they when the woman says you you have a really hair you should grow it out and you go. Oh this is actually a tattoo. I liked the way i could just say. Okay and just grow. I would think a woman who is going to date. You is going to like a bald headed man. That's what i would think. Sure know it's not about you know you grow in your hair out. She's going to take a look at him and say well. That guy's good looking. And i like the fact that he shaves his head unless she looks at his head and things. That's a thick head of hair. Here's a. b. short and broke. It doesn't matter there. There are some women out there that that do not like a bald man and if women there that do like there are but but this is what i'm saying i know. There's many that. Love the bolt head the rob solids like the hottest guy in town defeat for sure. But what i'm saying is that somebody could look at billy one of the women who don does not like a bald head and says well at least i know he can grow his hair out at some point and the but it's based on lies. Can i just ask you a question. Yes please person how does how does gina feel about the mollahs. Well she hates it. Okay but you still have it right. I know you've been married for a long. I'm now is different. She knows about me. She knows everything about me. And this mullet came six years after we were married and like ten years after we met midlife crisis. It's not a midlife crisis. I'm telling you it's not all billy's happened in mid life crisis. He's not even close to life. It's thirty one bright. So no he's just he's he's this is his philly. You do you man. Don't want anybody talk you adamant and you go about your business the way that you want to go about your business. Don't spin this thing. Nobody's knocking billy for his hair tat. Your tone him that he has to tell somebody that he has a hair. Dad i think has to happen. Yes but it looks great. It looks tremendous will. Thank you. And i i so real that i feel like you have to disclose. It was well. Because i don't need hair like that. Sure right. who just just the shade real. It gives you a little different gives you a little change up. I think it looks good. How 'bout tommy massapequa. Tommy what's happening. Hey fellas this question for billy real quick as a as a ball guy myself. I'm just wondering what happens over time because naturally tattoos like they fada. They turn green. What as you age with us. We'll always different kind of it's different kind of pigment. it's not it's not regular ink. Okay so so over time i guess i mean it'll fade over time bought one. Why not get an party Until then why not get party until then what a great way to look at life. We do need to get the name of his doctor though. Because i mean for crying out loud. It's such a good job. Yeah so many people are interested in what's going on. I want to give the name of the doctor now. Well i mean give it to a sales go. That's what i think about anti in wantagh. Anne what's happening. Oh my god. I have to say i'm not watching you guys on tv. I've drive everyday and listen to you. Guys i thank you guys for the last but my way today. It sounds like listening to a porn. Show touch it. I'm gonna do is in a room. I'm like please revive. We'll be careful as well. We're rubbing lots oily heads say the consistency of the prisoner hand. Sanitizer is not good. It sucks yeah. I mean it came out and pure l. I i gotta have that concern. That was gross. It was tara. And then al hit the one pump. He gave me six ounces hand. I thought it was gel. Came out like liquid was late is he pumped it. I was like the presenting manufacturing company. Forget to add the the other alto the consistency part. Yeah oh that's just it. Smells like bad. They do make good. Yeah that is true. I billy stockman. We appreciate you right. And i think you're overran. I am but next time you start dating somebody. We gotta talk. We gotta make sure you because then you gotta disclosed this so we gotta come up with a plan for that and if you feel at any point in time that you are uncomfortable by geo staring. Just let us know margaret nature. She'll take care of it. I'll just send you a head shot of me. Just put it up the studio here. If i need to like when your significant other send you a little little shot during the day ahead. Pick little nookie nookie shot. Billy giacolone. ed pick. Okay so give the name of the doctor to To alan we'll get over to sales. That's what i think the great and then we'll get sal to get done and it'll be it'll be great for everybody so i went south probably asleep right now but we'll we'll talk to him soon about all right billy. Thank you all right. Great Billy jack alone for job. Billy and his great job though and his hair tattoo the morning show with boomer esiason gregg giannotti boomer and geo everybody in action basically last night. Good morning jerry. What's happening well. You're knicks are happening. That's what's happened five to shoot rose flips it. Up and darik rose doesn't timeout charlotte. Thirteen points for rose. Fifteen off the bench and the knicks of breathing room with two twenty-seven -actly what tom timid. Oh wanted when he got him from detroit. He's exactly the right player for this team at the right time. It is certainly worked out. He had seventeen last night. Emmanuel quickly had seventeen and r j barrett. It's he might twenty. Four knicks beat the hornets one zero nine. Ninety seven seven straight wins but their head coach. Tom sibito does remind them go day by day. Step by step in. If we're taking care of all the things we need to take care of the all that other stuff will take care of it. He really should have said one possession on yes one half one game at a time when we get his point Here was rj barrett. He was asked. is it true. Talk about derrick rose in his impact. Is it true when rose tells the media that he is too hard on himself when the shot off. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah i am i am that i will say that. I hate missing a eight when things are not perfect. I know nick fan. I love this kid though really. Do i like listening to him. I like the way he's playing. Here's barrett. he just wants to be rewarded for his efforts by do and i missed or do everything right then. And that's over the ball or something i would. Things are perfect and he says as much as he throws bouquets at randolph. For what he's given him he says rose really keeps his head out his is always on me. You know he's like forget about it. Keep open just go out there and don't think just play. Don't think klay yup knicks now trail atlanta by a half game for the four spot in the east. The hawks beat the magic last night. One twelve ninety six of the knicks thirty two and twenty seven atlanta thirty two and twenty six. These teams meet up at the garden. Coming up later tonight. Atlanta's played really well. They've they're eight and two in their last ten games as well as for the nets. They beat the pelicans big shots down the stretch. From kyrie irving irving with the ball at a three point lead thirty seconds to go in the fourth irving left it. Elaine stops fumbling. Gets it back in. Traffic puts it off the window along the baseline. How did he do it. And as chris korea with the call here on the fan two of his count them thirty two points eight assists nets no no durant. They had no james harden and won't for the foreseeable future again because the hamstring. So many guys out macari irving leads brooklyn to a win in new orleans. One thirty four one thousand nine thirty nine and nineteen now for the net. You're asking about stan van gundy. He spoke for eleven minutes He listened this guy tells you what he thinks he says Gave them no resistance. Our defense which has been getting better was off tonight. It was awful but it think we played well focused or hard. I coach a bunch of morons. One kyrie irving has the ball tinder game. What how many did he have for three straight possessions. He had it almost every possession. Okay but he hit like shush is in his face. You have other to turn around. That's what i'm saying is great as you have a well. A great basketball player shot. He was re van. Gundy was really. He was not bothered down the stretch as much as he was bothered by the third quarter which is a lot of what he is discussing and they have lapses. And that's where a reporter asked him that because you're young and inexperienced this way running back on defense has nothing to do with youth and inexperience you know getting down and competing defensively nothing to do with houston experience blocking people out nothing to do with youth and inexperience rosters filled with a bunch of lazy. Slogs once you get yeah. He's all over these guys. I mean and i was looking back because of the way it ended with the knicks the other night and then of course this my god. They lose a lot of games in the final five minutes and that's where his biggest frustration comes from. And so you can certainly understand it there's your basketball story nets and raptors in tampa tonight. We will have that for you right here on the fan The baseball story is a bad one for the mets. And really if this doesn't happen who knows what happens for new york. One losing to the cubs sits shop to the left side. Backing up. To field at davis. Bit throws it across alonzo. Can't dig it out. Third at scoring is still guard. The comes get a run on the band pro by. Jd davis as the cups. Take one nothing lead. Yeah you know if he makes that play. Everything changes i mean. Look he there. A couple of times balls were hit tim last night where he takes these extra hops and steps. I don't know what he's doing killer right there. It's the opposite of what our g barrett just talking about. Don't think say he's thinking too much that is it and of course it has a home run last night. He goes to for three. So now you have. This team needs a d. h. Is what needs and watching these pictures. Hit after a year of not watching a pit. it's just like the mets. Because of their positional makeup choir makeup and their inability to make simple plays in the field. This this game that's loss specifically because of what happened in the field defensive now while they also didn't hit walk shirts and walks. Jd davis was the one who had the run a solo homer. But maybe you're in the. Maybe you're in the i don't know the the ball a little bit more frustrating. Is it some walks taiwan walker. Walk six guys. Know what i i will admit something to you guys. You probably didn't hear you say because. I did sports minute that you never listened to am. I sports. Minute was on the knicks rangers in the mets. And how things were looking good and looking up things are aligned and somebody reminded me on twitter that you know who did actually pay attention to the sportsman. And that i pa. I possibly touched the money. The knicks still one though. Yeah but two out of the three teams lost and it wasn't pretty for either one of them. Yeah i guess you're right but if all three would have lost i would have said yes you know from this point on. I'm not touching money. Whenever the mets are seven and four they weren't eleven. And oh. I know that's why i was upbeat about everything going into yesterday's games. You could be upbeat about everything but the rangers. So i was really bad but other than that you can still be upbeat upbeat about the knicks. Seven in a row. Be upbeat about the mets Lost the game. It's okay still in first place there right. The rangers on the other hand were absolutely embarrassed by their biggest rival. And your son-in-law knocked out one of your hottest players and you know now that your team can compete against some of the best teams in hockey so that would be. That would be the one. I would focus on if i were you all right so east. West hockey usually does work when team plays a structure defensive game in their own defensive zone like whatever you wanna call plaster last night. Six western is right. I know six one. Thank you very much and the whole game change right on mats it on troop. Yes i know that now. The rangers all of a sudden started looking over their shoulders. We lose one of our best players and you know the game was gone right then. They're gone six one final score. Islanders beat the rangers Josh bailey scored twice in that game and the isles pull into a tie with washington atop the east division rangers and a lot of trouble now because the four game. Winning streak snapped but more than that. Boston one against it. Really a four game winning streak. What do you mean who they play the devil's they get points. They did right Kevin rooney shovels gonna win another game. You think jerry. It doesn't matter it really. Does you needed eight points. You got eight points. The problem is the bruins have gotten ten in their last five. What the bruins into. The islanders over the weekend is exactly what. The islanders just did to the rangers last night. There are and this is why the rangers are still on the outside looking in and are still you know once lafon year kratz off and and the heat all and maybe out and still round figure out how to play that style of game the top six go east and west ain't gonna work so Jerry did you give the yankees stuff or not. Turn because he. I know yankee fan. You brought up the hockey. we moved. I know nine where everyone worked out a walk. And it was a wild pitch. Yeah gleyber torres. Gary sanchez and clint frazier. All had an opportunity to break the game open. They think now they don't stink but not doing much. Even i think it was. Paul kneels talking last night about the body. Language of one clint frazier. That's not the clint frazier that we all like and appreciate. I saw a guy walking with his head down. You hit this little pop up flared. Second base to hit a fly ball. It's an easy. You know easy run. He's still have no. Rbi's you may have gleyber. Taurus has one rbi that mention. Clint frazier is what i mean. I don't think as a hidden his last eighteen at these. oh for his last eighteen. Clint frazier has see six for thirty seven on the year. Three runs scored no. Rbi's yeah one rbi for gleyber torres and clint frazier is ruining unfortunately for himself. You know he's ruining his opportunity. The yankees have given him the opportunity to play left. Field for the new york yankees. And right. now it's just not working out for him. It is not working out for him and not for me. I'm done We'll get you more sound coming up next hour. We got a lot more to get to including yankee sound against some dave gentlemen next hour to as he spoke ahead of this draft coming up next week. Are you ready to meet the moment ozzy and our friends at chevrolet proud to present real talk real change to help foster racial equality in america. And we're inviting you to help. Join the carlos watson as i talked with key leaders from across the country about racial disparities in america's healthcare system. Look for the carlos watson show and real talk real change on youtube and subscribe or download the carlos watson show for you. Get your podcast. The morning show with boomer esiason in gregg giannotti boomer and geo driving in lifted into sal licata on the overnight he was kissing boomers ass up and down about boomer send him some flowers and i couldn't believe how nice it was and he doesn't even really know boomer that well and man it's just incredible that he would think of him and you know i wasn't thinking of him. Well i know but he didn't. He thought you were thinking that that's fine. I'll think about him when we do the the the the hair tax. Yes yeah so one of the reasons. I i usually do that for most people around here that have children and stuff like that which is very nice but he put out. What i thought was a really nice posts about his wife who is his hero. Emergency emergency c section. Yeah so am. I want us all right. That's a big deal. And so i just wanted to send a bowel wine over and some flowers and just say. Hey congratulations. yeah and hopefully. When she gets better they can share a bottle a bottle of wine together and celebrate. The birth of their new baby daughter saw no. It sounds like manny was thinking to use south. All you know a man. I the last. I couldn't even tell you the last time i saw boomer. That's so nice that he would send me these things. I mean he really can be. We're pretty hard on sale to. When he got the flatness pregnant wife had to go. Yeah change the tire for him right. That's the other thing. She changed the tire forum. She had an emergency section. I mean woman is a hero she really is and then to put out with him on top of yes. I mean my goodness but she really has in my opinion. Save that man's life keeping him on the straight narrow many times over yes so anyway so he just has his beautiful daughter and he's working again these that home. Obviously there's not leaving the house but he's working. He's able to work he's able to work. And this is the type of stuff that he is dealing with on the overnight vernon calling from an ad. What's burnt sal. How you doing three fun baseball questions asked you. He's going to be real quick. You're ready. i'm ready okay and Cooperstown baseball hall of fame. They're men there but they never played baseball. Who are the two men I don't know bob within costello routine. Who's all i sure. I recall vividly. Yes area second. One do i- routine who along. I is not divisions in baseball. One position is never mentioned in their routine on. Who's on first. Which position is never mentioned in the routine pitcher no right sale last one salad heavily go so the seventh inning stretch fans get up and sing. Take me out to the ball. Game shows the question. Why do we think take me out to the ball game. When we're already at the ballgame question day. Vernon i really hope al. Dukes wasn't listening to that. Because now i think he's. He's tuned out and just like dude. Why are you taking that call. And i liked vernon and he calls all the time and we appreciate them calling. But i would prefer if we stuck to current sports as opposed to abbott and costello and their routine and different trivia questions part that he said i forget now all right i take it back. I should send him a bottle of whisky. Emergency c section. His wife is laid out recovering. Flat tires flat tires. All of this. This thinking you're going for all this craziness it's unbelievable. That's great that's something. That's the overnight in a nutshell. And i've heard vernon call many times vernon is a very nice man. He's a mets season ticket holder. Would tony page almost every night. Tony was working. So he's still call. But i mean those are those are three rough ones and sound. Did a good job in a losing it. I think that chris mad dog russo if he were still working here which he's not which he wishes he was but if he were he would go on in the afternoon and kill sal for not knowing those answers. Yeah i know that jesus come on to abacus stellar renos. They've been up to cooperstown and what what is now is a four forty forty two forty. Three years of age has about the cooperstown avoca. Sto- i understand. It's a long time ago. And who on i i got. Yeah you gotta know that pick Jeez by the way you hear his latest mispronunciation might get even imagine. So you know the mvp race. Yes nikola jokic. Yes is the man who is the favourite right now. The denver nuggets nikola jokic. That's right so this is chris. Mad dog russo. Talking about that. And i don't pay attention. Awards very very rarely. Pay attention to him. Anyway i would think that chocolate of denver maybe a b. Two three wealthy will be other. Candidates played thirty nine games. So that takes care of and beatty's mistake teen games. What are going to give him the mvp. Jock itch standpoint. How many games for denver has the center played for the nuggets. See if we can find that here in a sec would look jock itch as the guy that i would consider. Mvp more than curry hardens out and beads out really is gonna come down jock itch and curry as far as the mvp is concerned otherwise not here. Jock itch To me it's either gonna come down to jock itch or athlete's foot one of those two which are both different types of funds. I so really. I mean if you look at the odds you got jock itch. You can't pubic lice. And you gotta athlete's foot those three the ones that are on right at the top of the list right now but the guy it's gotta be jock itch which is a tough thing to overcome. Holy is he's he's really those dummies again. I mean how do you say jock. H not realize that house the person who's working with him not realize that it's like you're saying jock itch over and over again. Hey embiid it's gotta be jock itch that's gotta be the one. Probably he's been. There has been real annoying for teams that jackets. Anytime you go up against jock itch. It's very difficult to to get wrangled. Gold bond then gay go bonds things i could tell you. Jock itch ball sack. Athlete's foot tone fungus clairol in the mix for mvp each the morning show with boomer esiason in gregg giannotti boomer and geo so coup has entered the conversation and hulu has reached a deal to carry the nfl network and the red zone channel so that also is going to the nfl network red zone channels. They're going to be on youtube tv in food boat. I is fubo. tv everywhere. be everywhere. so i remember. We had a long conversation about sunday ticket. And all that stuff yes. So i've been told now. I can't test this intil what happens. Yes but an hour will be interested in this. I've been told that if you have an apple. Tv device yes not apple tv plus but actually have apple tv that you can download the direct tv sunday ticket app app. Yes and play it off of there now. Multiple high end. Av guys have told me this. You don't have the hack bias. I don't have to hack a fi stick. I don't have to come by you. Hey you can just use my causes college i. It goes to stony brook. Just ios. it. You don't have to do any of that okay good. I don't have to lie about trees and dishes and they apparently that's all laughed. Do that's what i was telling you. It's only with apple. T would all when this whole thing was happening. Yeah that's what i was telling. But i mean you have to pay for the apple. Tv yes so it's not like you're just getting it for free and then service though it is a great service and then also you have to pay for the full direct tv sunday ticket. Well which is fine as long as you get it but the point being is you know you got gotta bundle your apple thing together. Yeah your tv your music the whole thing just bumble you save a little bit more money and then you get everything is a little bit of a bundle will bundle situation again. They're gonna they're gonna they're gonna dig new somewhere along the line you know. Of course there's always a ding which is fine. I just want the ability to be able to watch that. But i'm saying that direct tv product isn't what it used to be because of everything else that is now out there you know. That's that's the problem plus on a bad weather day direct. Tv product sucks. Yeah right you know that. I know that anybody who has it knows that sure. But we're we're moving. We're getting away from that whole situation so. I think that i'm not going to have to need this anymore. You're not going to need the dish the dish you're all hooked up. You're all ready to go. Things are moving right now. You got past all the exiled all the stress that comes with moving into a new house and now you have new ways of doing things. Yeah and i got my optimum situational taken care of now. That's good yeah. I will say though that. I'm the streaming stuff on four k. Good that i wanted to be able to stream. Everything looks like. You're happy with the people that i recommended. Oh you know absolutely right okay. Good because i always worry about recommending people to you. Yeah then those people not coming through now. They came through and not doing what they're supposed to be doing. No above and beyond actually. But there's still. There's still one little glitch couch one little glitch or from the old place but okay and we took. It's going to go when the new newcomers for some reason that crap takes forever. I know really sure why. I know i feel like i'm living in a stash house right. You just go to stickler something. Get some of them i suppose. I could whatever's in stock but you know you live with people the aba wife got taste and things you know. You can't just go out and buy couches without getting somebody involved. Question is can you get pondicherry. Headboard we'd like that we could serena serena thing yes pondicherry headboard. You couldn't get up into your old house old house and then you allowed those guys to try to rip the walls out. yes right. She saw the story went that she signed a waiver. While i wasn't home that said these guys could do whatever they wanted to the house to get the headboard up the stairs and it wasn't going to be on them if they tore the house apart because she was so desperate to get that pondicherry. Ed board up to everybody has to have a pondicherry had so then i said all right. Give me this piece of paper. I got home in a office but no. That's we're back the pondicherry headboard but we're happy about but yet nice headboard anyway now we do know. It's nice now so we're waiting on you big headboard guy like when you walk in the bedroom man i got a really nice headboard until i got one and now that i have one i feel like if i didn't have one it'd be a problem. It's one of those things you didn't know what life was like until you had a headboard. Here's a question for you. Does al have headboard. He's single way. He lives in a condo. Hell does he ever headboard and beat does where did the headboard come from. He does not have a headboard not even come close to have it ahead if he has a headboard. Where would you think he came from. Not coming from serena lily no way. Bob's discount furniture probably. Yeah all right. The question is how do you have a headboard so. I got my first headboard About four years ago bops discount. All right i was going on. It is okay good. I'm surprised you want material. Who knows canvas. no it's like some you know fake woodham. Sure all you got that. It's not tufted. i don't know what that is tufted. It's like a it's cushioning sort of nails in it. Yeah no cushioning. It's not like that. So you do have a wh- what have would headboard would he's got would. Does it move around. Make noise when you do. In the hippy. Dippy noise noise noise free out. There owner woodhead ports man. I've ever heard that noise. You're would woodhead more. Sounds like this is not right now. there you go. Thanks way to logs one pump jump. We've all been there. Does it takes ten seconds less course pharmacy to get some over the counter stuff. That can help. You ought to do not that. We've told you that story. Have you ever had to apologize for. Oh sure for years. You don't saying like you know for many years. You're i'm sorr-. I don't know why women wouldn't take that as a compliment. I think that some may but you know saying thank you. Yes yes. I understand what you're saying. Yeah ability giacolone. Neither girlfriend first time liberty. Deputy sorry my bed stuck to the ceiling alexa. How long does sex last you sorry anyway. So so what. Headboard bob's that's right. Yeah do you have anything. That's not from bob's discount furniture. You'll love pops discount for just like getting it over with like. I know i could go there. I'll get my items. I'll find something. I like done. Don't have the go all over delivering solid delivery of all day is. Everything's always worked out. So the complicate things. Why change the. I mean the some of the lead times on his furniture's crazy. You order a couch like all right. That's cost them. It'll be here in august of two thousand twenty three. What nuts if you want something quick. You bob's discount and you get it. I guess apparently but yeah. I'm i if you walk into my house. You'd think that you know it's like nobody lives there. We just got the one couch. The blinds up yet know how the hell long does it take to get blinds and apparently two three weeks. That's how long it takes him plots from blinds. The i don't know where these are coming from these are probably be sown by royalty or something. Maybe they coming from china. What they decide blinds i. I was not in on the blinds decision. I did not. I wasn't there for that part of it. Okay so that's wendy. If i'm not there to oversee the decision making process that god knows where we're going. Are you ready to meet the moment ozzy and our friends at chevrolet proud to present real talk real change to help foster racial equality in america. And we're inviting you. To help joined the carlos watson as i talked with key leaders from across the country about racial disparities in america's healthcare system. Look for the carlos watson show in real talk real change on youtube and subscribe or download the carlos watson. Show wherever you get. Your podcasts keeps the morning show with boomer esiason and greg hardy boomer and geo every played that phone call that overnight phone call sal licata got a tweet. Guy said hey. That's nothing you guys here. The call to steve somers late and his show were a woman from san. Diego played her flute. No so i asked him for a time. But i'd love to hear that. I mean what is with summers in these colours from california. Remember that guy thought. The tom brady was jesus. Christ yes that was with summers. And now this. This woman from san diego's planer flute. What happens when you legalize weed possibly right. Jerry's here with the update. What's going on jerry brought to you by flagging anthem. Spring a clothing collection visit flag and anthem dot com. Sal also had a caller. I forget his name right around ten after three or so something like that where he called salad jerk and sell almost lost his mind so most lost his mind good for him most maturing he kept his cool he just ban them for life for many show. That's all an al spot on with the bob's discount furniture very good point there now knicks nets last night. Two teams to wins knicks to a really good job against a good hornets club as the knicks. Make it seven straight wins. Fakes flips it out block. Reggie black for three his three pointer the game charlotte knicks with their largest later seventeenth. Three net is mike breen with the call on. Msg knicks don't usually make that many threes. They made a bunch last night though and they beat charlotte one. Oh nine. Ninety seven rj barrett. Though was the star he had twenty four. Had a big second half and he says that's because julius randle told him he would only me in the locker room now a big second half nine and a out there and he got me. A couple of open looks To start the third and then just kind of exploded from there at back. Threes at one point in a big spot. Here's randall now. We know about how you guys feel about him. How his teammates feel about him and how the faithful feels about him. Well once again randall. Trying to talk to the media and gets interrupted this time by obi topping community. Ask our own again the camera time. How you guys doing yeah. He gets camera was sat. As i said be was top of the knicks being the feel good fun over achieving group in town. Yeah it's crazy. It's just unbelievable. Well it's no this. What released solid coaching can do for a team in a motivated superstar. And he knows it because he's going he's playing for a max contract so would it be possible like think about this. Would this be jerry. you tell me. Would this be the nightmare for nets fans in this area. The knicks get the foresee they match up with atlanta or boston. They win that series. They face the nets in the next round and or the big three playing or are they all absent and well. Maybe just one of them's playing god. And then the knicks end up beating the nets in the second round. Because they're not healthy should but not for nothing shouldn't they. If you're telling me the nets have one player. No they probably shouldn't. But i'm just saying would that be the nightmare of all nightmares. Of course would be sure that would be mad if lifting nets go and put. This is where. I will come back to win. The nets did what they did with harden if the nets go into the playoffs and all they have is a healthy kyrie irving boy. I'll tell you gave up a lot for nothing. Kevin durant will be back. But i'm sure he will. I am too. But i just think that if that happened. I don't care if we win a championship. At that point we have just won the championship. Should've you one of the nets with more of a national story than they are local story the knicks or the local story. I wonder would that be for knicks fans who have who were alive to see the championships would that be the greatest moment even more so than like losing in the finals. A couple times went to seven game series and rj to three to win the game baby. It'd be more impressive. Knicks beat the nets all healthy. But that probably wouldn't happen auto care but down. Hey listen to sean. Marks felt like he was well spent at the time right. yeah for sure. Give up a lot of talent to guy who all of a sudden can't play Not great knicks have won seven straight. They trail atlanta by a half game for the four spot. Atlanta new york tonight and the garden. Hawks beat the magic last night. One twelve ninety six as for those nets they were without kevin durant. They are without james harden for harden not sure for how long could be lengthy Yet they still had enough to beat new orleans. Irving trapped in the basement cross-court champion adam. Left for green line tries and kicks. Griffin's got it pump date moving laugh drive to the basket slam for blake griffin with to tend to go next. Go up one. Twenty four to one. Twenty chris korea with the call on the sixty points. Sean marks before the eve of the playoffs what it would sound like sixteen points eight. Let's get you stuff together here. This is my reputation on the line in paying a lot of money contusions strains and whatever you have put some ice on it and get you out there in regular season game against new orleans. Pelicans for christ sakes getting a sauna blanket. Milia he's probably gonna lose his mind man if that team's not healthy it only imagine behind closed doors. What he's saying thinking rusher pressure on. It's a privilege man. Come on. I know but think about it. They are the team they are the mark. Bear the mark team in the east. I don't care what anybody says. Of course then the whole mba. More fun all kidding aside to be more fun though if they were playing it like when the warriors were the mark team they played. Yeah and here is a nash. Pre-game on the news of harden and the hamstring strain back to square one will rehabilitate them in get back whenever we can and else. What else when that'll be great. Who takes a page out of aaron. Boone spoke at similar. Yeah definitely downplaying stuff. Low key and we'll see what happens. Knows here was another one from stam. Vent stan van gundy. His team did not play well after the break as we mentioned last hour and it was very quick to let us know of all the first six minutes of the second-half were horrendous from an energy standpoint. Now you have to get his postgame every game when it's not the knicks and nets just as long as they lose. Yeah i know it's great zion. Williamson was asked. Who's responsible for this one. We'll take the blame on our. You know there was times in the huddle. I think we're coach was looking at us and he was saying you guys like you did faces right in dead faces right now. That's not good to hear from your coach So that has been their problem. They have not played well As of late knits raptors tonight. We'll have that free on the fan that game in tampa and durant still traveling with the nets. who knows. maybe we see him. They didn't. I don't even think they got him scanned right. They said it was a very minor. This can Thigh contusion that he has was minor all right baseball. Now let's start with the yankees. They did win. There was one big hit along the way because they score their other two runs. You know because Atlanta's thing has the only yankee hippie here that he calls them owes shelhah which i thought was weird though shelhah has the only yankee. Hit christmas misspoke. The pitches swung on and trail. Dead deep centerfield back backhoes. Herediano track the wall. She's gone. he hit the netting protecting the retired numbers in dead center. Geo shelhah he ties the game. Show the most happy fellow made at one one in the fifth yankees. Beat the braves three one. They scored two runs in the eighth wild pitch and a bases loaded walk in their relief. Did the job are all this chapman. was good too in the ninth as you can imagine snaps a five game losing streak. Here's aaron boone. He liked what he saw. Ten ten wins traffic. That's not don't traffic out here. He is even though we didn't break it open. There were a lot of really good things that happened tonight. Obviously on the mound starting with Jameh tonight tonight is huge. Tonight is big for must win. Wednesday against house go five. Let's get the five innings. Maybe one or two runs corey kluber. You're referencing. He faces ian anderson and the game on sports radio. Sixty six wfan am the yankees. Go for the two game. Sweep and try to get within three games of five hundred What else we got here. I knew the mets the mets. What a mess. This was i steal this year for hayward the pits sell our lives the left-centre basit hayward rod stewart. He'll store easily now to the stolen base. Pays off and nerd. Power is here and wrigleville eric. Sogard as a two out. Rbi single the cubs to nothing lead. That was wayne randazzo. Wcbs eighty mets wound up losing the cubs. Three one chicago scores their first run on e. j. d. davis throwing to first base and that really was a big problem for new york last night They scored their third run on a bases loaded. Walk to wilson us three one. The final score. Jake arrieta the wind craig kimbrel. Though not great in the lasting got the save he got. I believe it was nimmo. And then i know lindores granted out to end it with the basis full. You know at a miserable night is the over five hundred. Yeah can't win them. All i hear was lewis. Rojo's john lipka the home plate umpire. He didn't care for him. He got tossed as to how taiwan walker got tossed but he was out of the game. He was walking off the field and was being pulled but still he was elected. Here's row suit. Didn't think he was fair with his calls starts from the thought of taiwan squeezed little bit by the home blade empire. And you know the you know we're getting calls our out zone some. Yeah so he was not good is what he's essentially saying. Walker walked a career high tide a career high six walks in three and two thirds so not great for him Tonight david peterson takes the ball. He will face zach davies. Also of note from baseball dodger. Shut out the mariners. One to nothing you had the orioles over the marlins seventy five The giants beat the phillies in that philly bullpen. Ten seven the final san francisco six runs in the eighth off of connor. Brogden wilmer flores a three-run homer mike trout and a home run. The angels beat the rangers by the score of six to two in the eastern from the twins seven. Nothing nothing and jed lowrie didn't do anything wanted one of the two games and was hitless in the second game. I believe yes and the raised did beat the royals fourteen. Seven neil walker announcing his retirement. Hey let's get to the game at the coliseum last night because if you're a ranger fan you're miserable if you're an island or fan you had a blast saying jack with the steel zajac ever league. He's he's six to one. I mean the floodgates at six one the final score josh bailey scored two times on the night and anthony beauvillier with a power play goal and three assists. david quinn. That sort of sucked. Oh and you lose six to one of the fashion. We did it certainly humbling. That's for sure. Yeah and they also losing jacob trueba with the hit by matt martin in that first period. Here is barry trotz. He liked the way his club play took good angles. We close the time and space. And when i did get pucks and got in a rush. We didn't duplicate we. We went in our proper spots and and Just put the work in semyon varlamov zone coverage boys and setting a tone and drew a did that initially with is hit on madden and matt came back and just absolutely laid out true but that was legal hit and it just it basically put the rangers back on their heels and like i said they weren't playing the devil's they were playing. The islanders and the owners are up at the top of the the division for a reason. That's that's playoff hockey right. There tied with washington now atop the east division. Whatever the sponsor is And the rangers now. Six points behind. Boston is boston. Beat buffalo to nothing and boston's getting hot too by the way the devil. Yeah they've won. What five in the devils despite scoring six goals in the third period still lost to the penguins. Seven six sidney crosby with a goal and an assist and dave gettleman spoke with the media yesterday as they are getting set for the draft. Of course next week. that'll be held in cleveland. And i did see you guys. Were overseeing the the rams and mcvay and that beach house yeah boy. that looks awful God i though about the giants. I think they only have six picks in this draft so they they may trae down now one of the moves they did make was signing kyle rudolph and this was even finding out during the physical that he needed. Surgery here was gentlemen on why they stuck with the decision to sign him. We are the giants. We're going to do everything with class and we we had an agreement signed off on and duck rodeo. Signed off on it so fine. That's a bit much isn't it. Why is that amid much giants. I mean obviously you could get out of the deal. Couldn't you if you want to isn't as a rough and tumble business. You gotta make sure you do whatever you can you have it right and i usually say if you're jesus you have to be ruthless right but i also understand that you know. Sometimes you're sending messages to other players around the league to that. Look become to us when we're going to try to uphold our end of the bargain even though we passed you on a physical. I yeah i mean that's just the very gettleman signing holder. Slow hurt player. You know what was. I gonna say about the dave gettleman with the forget. He said something jerry. Do you have any other cuts him. Headline i saw a gentleman said something about somebody but i don't know what it is now. So we'll move on. We literally have daniel jones. I don't remember where we're going to say devante booker. Maybe i'll that's another guy. Just a miserable. Sign that guys done. Anything is career outside of his rookie season. You get a little bit run. I'm trying to look The yeah no not really. There's only like two cuts in here. Okay all right very good. No and then not. Jordan of washington announced his retirement Lingering issues from multiple concussions. And i also noticed. We talked about on the warm-up the fact that you might have different helmets now for the offensive and defensive lines so making progress and moving that way in the helmet in a helmet. The nfl is offering a million dollars to anybody who comes up with a different concept helmet. That is accepted. That is better than the helmets. The wearing right now. And i think all those all those kinds of ideas have to be submitted to the nfl. By i do. I tend or something like that. You're talking about like safety watts. Yes art making sure. Not like all these engineering schools and everything else and people trying to come up with different ideas to maybe improve something. Try to expand the idea. Okay very good. Each the morning show with boomer esiason and greg saudi boomer and geo The term well somebody needs a reality check or someone got a reality check. Yes well to me. This is the perfect type of thing a reality check example for you so a couple of nights ago steve. Somers had jerry seinfeld on jerry seinfeld for a half an hour. He's had him on multiple times. He hadn't had him on for a while that a falling out obviously repaired that hatem on for half an hour fund interview one of the most famous comedians and entertainers of our generation. Jerry seinfeld steve somers interviewing jerry seinfeld for a half an hour the next night. Steve somers comes back to shift and here. My friend is your reality check. I'm going to do something for you. Okay all right. I i you ready yes Remember hell to this radio. I can't tell you please stay times up. Please stay in san diego What were you doing there. Yes i am. I thinking chaucer. Why was i thinking shakespeare. Why was seventeen hundreds but now it's classical musical i can do. I can do other parts you. That's enough we were. I am just one. It goes like this. I was like well. We'll take the next song at the next time you call in. Couldn't hang up on her faster and the next part goes like this on and on was a minute of classical flute at twelve thirty five in the morning in new york city. I think people were you know. Maybe tuning into like a pbs station. Well hey it was we day so maybe it was all all good stuff. He wasn't very kinder. I thought that. Steve steve can get into that whole complimentary. Yes downhill thing and sold guns. You have so much town and if you work hard and maybe you can be in. The new york philharmonic is what your nose. I can tell. You've got so much now. But he just crushed her plane staying in san diego. I guess she was from san diego. The calls yes please thing in san diego. no no. don't don't play anymore. Okay times up but think about that you get to the car you think about all the stuff. That's all these games going on. All these things happening right. Hey guy gets off. Shift shifted midnight. Something like that puts on the fan. Who do who do crew. Who think he's in the talk back to fliegelman. What do i do. I don't wanna get out of this crap. I don't think he has the like you had to where you can control it. I don't think he has really so we had a three year. Yes so you know if somebody left the room you know just out there. Oh god what he tries to cut her off. She keeps coming up. Please stay. and that's cringe-worthy. Okay more cringe-worthy this or the jerry seinfeld you parts of the seinfeld interview where Steve was talking about the larry. David email situation was more uncomfortable than this was a little soothing. Yeah just listen to the flute. But how does a woman from san diego call up. Steve somers on wfan and play the flute. How does that happen. Yeah like how did she find this of all the things she could have bumped into. Yeah l. you may be able to find her in the caller law. If you interested. I mean like i'm just going to call up a new york. Sports talk station at nine thirty. My tashi seattle call before and play the flute. She had to be. She had come on. She had to be a previous caller. She's probably from here. Yeah come just goes out to california. Just didn't bump into steve somers overnight. And say i'm going to call up and play the play the flute for a minute long on the radio ladder and was ready to go more. Yeah i play more if you'd like. Who could kings in hartford connecticut. What's up king. Food thing was hysterical But i got a bone to pick with you with dave gettleman and your critique of Kyle rudolph there by the way but he was very good for my team for a very long time. And he's one of the great guys in the nfl and he set up a cancer hospital out there. A pediatric cancer hospital out there in minneapolis. As a member of the vikings his career obviously is is slow down a little but yeah so so yes. He's a great guy but also in his last four years he's had two drops to drop passes. I think an england up to and gain. I know you like to look things up. I look up as touchdowns compared to pick. I know he's these courts i'm touchdown so listen he's he should be serviceable on a good team but he's he's also a guy who's older in his career. He is someone who is not that young athletic quick player that nfl offenses are looking for right. Now and he's also hurt ahead surgery on his foot. I mean so. That's that'll recover. I mean he'll be back. Oh catch the ball. Drop it looking. Yeah okay. I know but also have ingram is he. You know he's someone that if he went on. Evan ingram captures the ball and run with it. That's what everybody sees that says while we gotta keep the guy. Yeah it's that he does drop balls in bury key situations. I don't know how many drops he had last year. I'm sure that that stat. Maybe six or seven. It's just the problems when those drops are happening. I mean. He was a great player for the vikings for a long time. It's just that that's not the type of free agent signing at this point in his career with an injury. he's coming drifted injury. But i do. Is i understand what he's saying because he works for. The giants had worked for the giants when they won super bowls and he wants to have this perception that the giants do things the right way. He has been building since he got here. All right david islip dave. What's happening guys going gonna ask you a question. Are you an islander or a ranger. Fan islanders buddy all right so what would you like to say so really i. This is like a human interest. Kind of question i was. I was thinking about you in the sense of. Mac is your son-in-law yes the father of your granddaughter. Yes the husband of your daughter. Yes and you're a huge range of fan which is a whole problem with south one hundred percent while for him. It's more of a problem than it is for me. So here's the question. How do you like your emotions. When mac. i'd hit that hard shop and trueba. How did you really feel inside. And then went back out and back and knocked him off his ass knocking out of the right well so this is interesting. I thought last night watching it. When matt i got hit when he hit the ice and got up immediately he had to be thinking about me. I know he was thinking about me. And i know because i had i had dinner with him the night before. Said you guys you guys ever practice shooting at the net. I probably shouldn't have said that. I was having fun because the owners are having a hard time scoring goals last few games right and i send or do you guys just practice running into people in practice and of course he did what what he should gone in what he's what he's paid to do for the owners and that set the tone and look i m. I respect an honest game. That's what i respect worse. And as long as they're honest and they play within the rules then then there is a physicality that that is a part of the game that for us. It's ranger fans has been missing for the last year's but that's what happens when you go through a rebuild and you have a lot of young players i will tell you jacob troopers ryan really good this year. He's been really physical. Brendan smith has been physical. They had brennan libya. They got rid of him because he didn't want be here anymore. After that. You know maybe kreider may hit a guy every now and again. I'm not saying is are. Are there more talented than they are gritty. Let's put it that way. What do you think matt in sydney say about you when you're not around. Oh how awesome. And what a great guy i am. And they'll like because everybody in the wedding like do. Because i'm i'm picturing this like you. Needling matt about do practice shooting on. Like i'm and then you leave you there for dinner and then going to sydney. Can you tell you. Dan stop boston. Balls about the whole hockey thing. He's probably tell and sedan gonna kill the rangers. Yeah right yeah you know he just like. I didn't wanna say anything when he was here but that was really out of line. And now i'm going to have to take out one of his players. Do you think that that stuff. I don't think he. I don't think he ever think about taking out a player. I think he always thinks about playing within the rules. Playing physical i know. And this is why lou. Lamoriello has always admired him and respected him. Sure absolutely i just wanted. I'd love to know what you're there for dinner. You're all intense boom pa talking about sports. Then you leave. What is matt saying. Man guys gotta get my ass is gonna get off my ass man. I take it. We got one dinner. We don't talk about hockey and the rangers. But you know damn well what he was on his his own asks. Who's on the ice last night. He was thinking me. That's why i'm bringing this up. Yes because if you're thinking that that means that these interactions that you have with him. You're feeling a certain way about his reaction to you. You know how you have. That whole thing about you and billy chocolate. I couldn't stop staring at his head. And you're thinking that billy's thinking that you're staying. That's why he's wearing a hat that's why he's wearing a hood. That's exactly what i thought. Last night i thought matt bought me when he was on the ice. Did you text them and ask them. I did not. I'm not no. You're not gonna of hands off something like that. You won't talk to him about the game last night. No not at all because your team got their ass kicked exactly. Okay just making sure to the game tomorrow night the garden. Oh you are going yes the same group of flunkies. Same group of flunkies. But oh yeah ok you could call them flunkies. I don't but i call my friends flunkies. I go your friends and i said you could call flunkies. Yeah but Non and they played the flyers tomorrow. Night right okay so go to that game all right and then you got the say. Hello to dmitry for me. Yeah well. I haven't seen him in a while. Yeah i saw him. You had it was arabic an third base. Your foot was does way up his ass. Well when you got when you got a guy who's got third base and then free balls or hit toned straight in a row and he throws over your head. He was he was crying about it that day. It's like you're you're you're batting practice buddy. But he showed it off. I just brought guys the play we needed bodies gave you body and it was one of those bodies i did not pump any of those guys up. I got practice boy was pumping himself. He was but don't blame that on me in pumper signs up. Put was like clint frazier last night popping up to second base. Yeah he hit four home runs and batting practice netting over there and save you right and then just basically just pooped all over himself when the game started but then i moved him to third base. Move into the third base. One of your buddies ended the plan therapy. I think it might have been him at a stick. Dmitri and rightfielder may have was probably each the morning show with boomer esiason in gregg giannotti boomerang and geo. I was actually worried moving into my new home about the ghost stuff because we had talked a lot about this and haunted houses and alba believes in some of that stuff. You have had a little bit more of an open. Mind than i even thought so. It's in my head already about the the ghost didn't previous owner die in the house. Now i told you. I don't i don't know that i said i thought one of our friends came to that. No no no no that that that did not happen. I said it could have happened. I don't know but who would. Who knows so. This house has been there for a long time stuff like that can happen so i thought to myself be alert. Be alert for ghost activity so last night. Gene is upstairs with sabrina. Sabrina getting ready for bed. And i hear bo. I mean i'm talking loud loud boom it. She dropped sabrina Well no because i listen. I need the tv. Listen for crying. 'cause i'm thinking. Did sabrina fall out of the bed. No crying. I hear sabrina talking. You know to. Jean engine talking back on like maybe i said nothing's really been dropped upstairs yet and house. Maybe it's just very loud. I didn't know maybe she dropped her phone. Whatever so then gena comes downstairs after. Sabrina falls asleep and says did you drop your phone or something because it was a loud bang. Sabrina was asking me what it was. And i said no. I thought that was you up there because no i thought it was you. Oh so our normal activity. So i know i said i think we might have a ghost situation here. I've already put myself in that thing. So i'm going around the house looking for stuff that you dropped. This house have an attic. It does have an attic. A stand up. Yeah you the stairs come down at a on sealing up there and you can actually stand up there. Yeah so. I'm thinking that to some guys where you gotta go. Did you go up there. I did not last night. No so then you know what i even did. I said maybe bird flew into the side of the house because we don't have any blinds right now and it just looks like open area. you know. maybe that's what i do. I did a one solve around. The house walked around. How steve a bird flew into a window. Nothing so i go to sleep thinking. This is weird. I got it now. I'm high alert. go styler all right. Wake up this morning. Go downstairs still nothing in the house. It could have made that noise all the other thing to be able to get sleepless night. I oh i told i could only sleep. There could be a murderer in my house. That i'd fall asleep not a couple of minutes so deal with you to like guinea. Gimmie three hours of you. But then we also thought maybe there are some books that had fallen off a shelf in another room that we had no they were all up on the value more rooms in a bigger house. So i go downstairs this morning after i wake up getting ready for work coffee everything and i'm still nothing but as i start walking out the door i look and there's a small like beverage refrigerator counter so i see that there is fluid fluid fluid on the floor so i opened it up and a can of seltzer exploded in the refrigerator. What tempt you. The refrigerator thirty eight. It's too cold i thought. But that's what our big fridges. At thirty eight and it's fine is nothing freezing. Isn't below free thirty. Is this very small area. Yeah so it gets very cold. It's probably colder than thirty eight in their bill. But that's what. I had it set by veges colder than that so it was totally blown to smithereens says where the noise came. This candice through the noise came from and then there was just a playlist. That was there. Thank god no ghost not yet at least unless the ghost lowered the temp of the freezer and then put it back up to but there was also another can that was in there. That was expanded. Yeah oh yeah so. I carried out of the house. Like a grenade in that into the yard. Because i didn't want that exploding and waking up early. I'd so well. The good news no goes no no goes no paranormal activity. No none none whatsoever. Yeah that's good. Yeah i did. I didn't clean it all up. Because i was running a little late. Plus it's early in the morning. Yeah i said. I gave it a you know little wipe. Hey by the way we have asked his which did. But i understand. 'cause you get to work lee ella when she pooped in the bed. Yeah that's right. She calmed down as told she's totally. So it's all good now. She's had she's happy. She likes her new home. And every oh now totally totally happy. And meanwhile whimsey is having all sorts of depressed. Whimsey is totally depressed. Now she's been very said. The very first week i was back everything was good and now she's very sad doesn't want to go for walks only goes to go to labatt and wants to come back in. She looks very sad. When i come home moskowitz said would you come. yes she's just. She's giving me the guilt trip. Wow i thought she'd be lease. Be happy to see you right. She was but then now she's starting to get a little more like sad spring ren she vaccinated. She got all her vaccine her dog vaccines yesterday. Yeah bring why. Don't you just bring this letter lay next to you over there. She's got the dogs here and everything. But here's the thing as you really actually do look like her with glasses. Amazing the neuroses also parallel you need a service support talk. I definitely i think so. All right so need one. Yeah bring. Would you consider that if she was allowed to come in. of course i'd bring her in. You need a service dog. Oh she in the car she winds the whole time. Yeah well that's not good. How do you think of new york city. I think she would She loves the smell things as dogs do so i think she would be fascinated new york city and she off a little bit of protection. If you run into some trouble would she though no. Yeah probably not. Maybe she would shoot. That would be would not some like person and expecting now text to come in no dogs but like he. He's not a dog person. I'd coleman once brought in the hams third. Maybe who's rabid. Maybe the new guy or gal a dog person. I feel like these days. Companies can't say no to anything that's right. I think you gotta say the but almost anything you could just claim is your real broken up over the world today need right. You need the dog. I be able to do your job properly with iraq. Plus she run laps out there around where jerry sits. If she's non some exercise. I bet you if you brought her in our whole general outlook on life with clearly taken up we we have said this before. I couldn't agree more. I mean just having a dog around the newsroom. And now's the best time to have it because there's nobody here. What's the big deal. I could bring cooper in. That'd be great to my dog would love to play with that. He's dogs and she's good around. Other dogs always knows zero dog problems with other dogs. Perfect all right. Let's do it you don't do. We really need clearance from anybody. Don't even talk about this. No reason williams. He's coming in tomorrow. He's coming in tomorrow. And that's the that's the end of the story. I mean there's just nobody can stop us. What are they gonna do on. Its whimsy swims right part of the show she is. Maybe you can get some kibbles and bits or something or sponsored from you know those big pet stores. Thanks one of those stores. We sponsor whimsey or something williams. He's gotta live. Read here f bed. Mgm use promo code. While i got it got it perfect. Perfect dino fight the. I n. o. v. i t. I give it to your dogs. I dunno vitamin yes. Dynamite all over the dove goes through. Good luck getting whimsey by security. Yeah okay that's hard. yeah. I know. I mean that guy. Who's in there before. Five o'clock before jonatan i can real through nate is going to say nothing she she would love it love it. Yeah this is just me and my giraffe. that's me maybe like good morning walking confidently like you belong with a dog. They'll let you write what you do. You buy one of those service dog then then you a nurse. Here we go. Well listen us a big problem in the industry. It is i for people who have a genuine need for service dogs like blind people out if you have all a bunch of fog as emotional support be as then that sort of makes it more difficult for the for the guide dogs. Yeah but you know how this is not as he needs house needs this. We need this. He's emotionally ill and you think how just wear sunglasses and get along stick. No don't do that. See that's terrible. That's now we've crossed. Nobody's gonna you can't do. I actually think what i'm saying. We're in an era now. We're no one can say anything about anything. So i think i could probably just walk the dog right in here. I'm telling you'd be able to you know. Then people start doing an emotional support. Ponies onto dc ten's right. There's problem that we were not. I don't know if it was opponent but there have been some of those miniature ponies on. Yeah now they may say we're gonna stop this. We're going to our dogs. Come on and then the next time you come walk it on their with saint bernard that's different for an l. Count with one eighty now. Just bring her in tomorrow. All right. i mean we'll one hundred percent support for may you. We got your back. She'll be laying right back here. She won't even move the whole show exactly. I know that she would be happier. You would be happy and be happier. Yeah and then. They say he can't bring her in again. At least we had a day whimsey right so just just do. This is one of those do it. Ask for forgiveness later no permission. We're like openly talking about it right now. I know we are but it doesn't matter just tell you know like oh that's right. I forgot you told me now. We've already told them she's coming in. We can't now she'd get even more depressed. And i'll just text me later. You want me to bring coober tomorrow or not. Yeah definitely now. let's just do it all tomorrow. Gay just in case we get shut down. Let's get it all in what's interesting is starting today. I put the show on for her while. She's by herself so she's eeriness really. Yeah she's excited. Can you tell. Do you have a camera at home watching her. I do want you check on that camera guys paying attention. All right i will e- hey whimsey you coming in tomorrow. Oh yeah can't wait to see you girl. We'll see you tomorrow. You hang out behind you dad all right. Come on you guys say. Who's a girl who's you cook you. Goo- who's the coo bill cower shows he's he's passed out right now she is good checks the show is on back. They're awesome. Well maybe that's making her relaxed right. D-actually the dog whisper the woman who speaks to animals. Yeah she told me she said. Put the show on. She was used to you doing the show from their everyday. Smart with the show on for you went back to the dog. Whisper advice well. She reached out to me because i had reached out on. Twitter just said that the dog was having a rough time. Wow as many people will have once more and more start going back to work. Yeah now gonna be a thing. Well listen changes tomorrow. She'll be with you reunited and hanging out in the control room and then cooper also be there as well. My dogs are too old for this type of commute. They gotta stay with iraq. Can't bring bringing bainian. No no yeah and you can't arctic quickly pull in connecticut before we move on here. What's up paul. Hey what's up guys are paul. What's happening hey listen about Two thousand ten i bought my house here in stanford and a few of my daughter was one years old by turn three she every morning. She said she was go. Pointing to the air duct. Thank you know things. Motion things are moving in her in her room at night. People come in so my wife freaked out so she hired one of these Exorcists like people that come into the house. Yeah and late lady came in she went. She didn't know anything. My wife said nothing. She went straight to my daughter's room straight their closet. She went through the whole house left. The house came out and the result was nothing in the house but they the lady on the roof is a dead dog yard and there was a nineteen year old wondering in the woods behind your house come and so. My wife wanted to sell the house. She freaked out and did you though no no no all right so we did but a couple years later. We did have She met up with. My wife is into this ricky. She's ricky master so she met up with some reiki master like what's a rake match ewing horrific yearly okay like the baboon and the lion king. Or that's that's rafiki rake anyway. Okay so snap new people in this circle up in Westchester somewhere and She bumped into these two guys who are trying to get one of these. Tv shows that go in and like sweep the ghost. Yeah yeah so. They're pitching us. All these You know The network channels or whatever so they took my life convince my wife that comes to my house so my wife said sure so two friends came and these two guys showed up. So i if it was a giant eagles. Game one o'clock sunday. And i'm not a believer right. I'm not to believe how are you. Listen i wound up in coffee and donuts right. They came in. I sat there had the tv on mute. Because i couldn't believe when. I was listening to these guys had a microphone A tape recorder going through the whole house and traveling. This guy called. Jacob my house down to the corner of the basement and you have to tell jacob that we were here and we're gonna help. We're going to hurt him. And was he gonna hurt us. I mean upstairs. What's his giants game. Like trial so there so the end result was about two weeks later. They sent my wife a little Audio of shakeup. You know the name and it was asked my wife and she really wanted to sell the house. I said we're not selling the house you know. Did you have to pay how much this all calls. It was free. They were doing for advertising how they were trying to start a tv show. Hey they just wanted to get the experience of meeting houses. I guess i'll come on. Joe so she she finally got over. A gavin sold the house. Has there been in the how well we don't. We have crosses on every you gotta put a cross every exit and entrance the front the back of the doors the fireplace addict. Basement the crawlspace. You put a little cross. And that keeps his spirit out apparently apparent errantly barrel. I mean so pulling your regular dude watching the giants and eagles. Your wife's are ricky ghost believing healer. Yea how does this work and stuff. She said work. So i look i i mean does it need to get into babble to pay apple. Pay for therapy right. I mean this is the no. It's a thirteen year strong. Do you tell your friends. Like my have covert. Nobody was my house because of it because they all believe jacobs down there. They all believe it's haunted. Me million stories. And some of my. I have the ash all the fireplace. when you wake up and so all perfectly highlight the close encounters of the third kind on top of your staircase. There's not one bit stuck dust between the fireplace and the staircase. That happened in your house. Do you feel how yeah and you don't believe in my house. I'm not leaving. My i mean do you. Do you feel like when there's like a little time going on. Somebody's watching you guys at my kids. So you're telling me that a ghost took all the ash out of your fireplace and need you that i. I'm not telling you i'm telling you that happened. And there's no explanation except that because the fire place the the the the great that you would on that the the the scream all shovel like it was a fight inside that fireplace night before we didn't have the fires at night before this a few years ago. And there's a perfectly pile of ash on the top of my sick days which is about thirty feet away from the fireplace and how that got here. I have no idea my wife freaked out. Well i mean and you didn't freak out. You're just like yeah. So what the victim. But the giants pretty cool i if i'm sitting outside by Nights on the hundred as behind by yard in here and a wetlands. Here crazy stuff man. I freak out greek out. But i'm not leaving but you're not leaving the house and the ghost hasn't like hurt anybody you don't wake you. Don't have any scratches on you when you wake up or anything like that. No no no thank god. That's sometimes you know when you're sitting there and it's a little scary but We got two dogs so we're okay but the one thing you want to say one thing you might. We don't buy old furniture because furniture brings the bad spirits. What they gotta get what you said. You didn't believe in this. Tell me furniture brings in spirits by no by my wife. Burns incense on all these Any old like you pick up and keith from state sales. Whatever he's gonna burn you gotta sage them and that's how the spirits india house if you go by an old antique and there's a dead person live apparently so you yeah stage it and you gotta do whole thing before you bring him in. Did you ever look in history. Paul did you ever look at the history who lived in the house and if there was ever a jakup in there or anything like that well. The previous owner was executive. Who ended up moving out but No was it. There's there's a old revolution Fort henry Cemetery up here just about a half a mile off the street. So they believe that there's some unrest some Soldiers are not the you know finally found their resting place. You know what i mean. What you mean. Yeah telling you what the town me. Half believe in though paul. That's the thing. I it sounds like you don't want to google. You think it's cool. Do believe that there's something going on you just don't believe going on not ambi har- or any kind of a you know did know nine street. They're going there. Is something going on. But i'm not crazy all right. Well thanks for sharing that Yeah no problem man. Just watch out for the you know they were good. It was just a can of seltzer in my house. Wasn't jacob across. I mean that was the one of the more convincing ones because this guy is someone who doesn't want a reasonable doesn't wanna believe in this stuff. He thinks his wife is a little bit. Nuts doesn't want to sell his house but yet is saying it's kinda cool goes front around ass. I mean wow possible eddie. Oh yeah absolutely passing. You believe it's possible. I believe it's possible. Okay anything is possible. The i don't know man. I don't know about the you know the thing. That's really freaky. Is the ash the ashes buried freaky store. Yeah maybe his friends are doing this to him. Something your friends would do. Some guy vinnie right now. going thing. That was perfect and a dustbuster that we use to clean up the evidence each the morning show with boomer esiason gregg giannotti boomer and geo morning brought to you by stress lists available at stickler furniture and mattress visit shop. Stickler dot com We've got knicks hawks tonight. Pretty ba- game after the knicks beat the hornets last night. One zero nine ninety seven knicks. Come in just half game behind atlanta for the fourth spot in the east. Here's tom team has won seven straight. Can't rest on your laurels. now we're gonna have to be ready again every night. Your challenge the important thing is for us to be ready. Be ready be ready. He says focus on what they do. Best go day by day. Step by step in. If we're taking care of all the things we need to take care of all the other stuff will take care of itself here. Was reggie block on msg last night have to have a good mindset which they have had a focus we come in every day We're not looking at the. You know the winds that we putting together but at the same time just locked in on that we can win every game and put our jerseys on thirty two and twenty seven. They got a team. I twenty four from rj barrett last night knicks hawks after eight pm tonight at madison square. Garden the hawks did beat the magic last night. One twelve to ninety six nets. Beat the pelicans. One thirty four one twenty nine but again not ideal. Kevin durant did not play. We found out that. James harden had a setback with the hamstring. That said kyrie irving thirty two points eight assists they also got twenty four from joe harris. here is irving hoping that hardened gets back sooner rather than later team and as one of his teammates. We just wanted to be as healthy as possible. The level of play that is needed in the in the playoffs on that main stage is totally different than the regular season. Now durant i believe is day to day and harden. They said his back to square one with a hamstring. So we will see landry. Shamet did at eighteen points and eight assists last night. Baseball wise. Good night for the yankees in terms of the result. They beat the braves three one or shallow homered and they scored a couple of runs. Because the pitching from atlanta was lousy yankee snappy five game losing streak there now six and ten on the season the braves falling to seven ten so that two game series wraps up tonight. You've got corey. Kluber facing ian anderson on sports radio sixty six. Wfan am mets. They had a pretty lousy loss in the chicago cubs. Three one eric sogard with an rbi single. He also scored on a throwing error by j. d. davis. And you also had both louis. Ross and taiwan walker being ejected walker was coming out anyway but ross first career ejection as a manager. He did not care for john. Lipka the home plate on boxer petitions of some bitches. Now i thought we should have gone That were called against us in terms of the strike zone and squeezing walker. He suffered the loss three runs. Two hits six walks over just three and two thirds tonight. David peterson will take on. Zach davies mets. Now seven and five also wanted to mention that. I want to do it last hour. I didn't get to it. The brewer shut out the padres six. Nothing you say. Well who gives a crap. Corbin burns threw six scoreless innings from milwaukee struck out ten. He's two and one he's. Era is point three seven and more importantly forty strikeouts two zero walks so far and this is on a night where taiwan walker had six. Walks in three and two thirds. Pretty wild stuff beat the rangers six to one brock nelson second period goal proved to be the difference. There here is barry trotz. We did what we do and we win. We stay. we stayed with. We stay with our game. We got to our game and when we did. We got a lot more done. Yeah they sure did semi on varlamov with twenty five saves rangers have their four game winning streak snapped and you also had the injury to jacob trueba on the matt martin hit. Here was david quinn. Yeah that was certainly an obvious. You saw the affected head. But i didn't love what we're doing before he could hurt either. I thought we just weren't playing the way we needed to play. If we're gonna have a chance tonight. I thought we were sloppy. Thought we were too high risk. I wound up losing the game. The islanders tie for first place in division rangers. Six points behind boston. Now with the winning streak coming to an end. Penguins beat the devil's seven. Six double scored six goals in the third period. I saw that note. You sent me boomer. Were the first team to win. A game where they gave up more than five goals in a period pass. Yes in the history of the nhl us backed like fourteen hundred zero two hundred and seventy and zero saw. Maybe that might have been one tie in that. I'm not sure pretty wild stuff though they do win. Seven six and sidney crosby did have a goal and assist off moment of the day brought to you by casa migos to kill it. S amigos tequila brought to you by those who drink it. Lots of good choices today. Last hour al telling the guys about a feature on his bed in his condo and it went this way so you do have a what do you have a woodhead. Headboard would he's got would does it Move around make noise when you do a hippie. Deputy noise noise noise free. Don't like use what's going on up there doing my owner sportsman. I've ever heard that noise. Sounds like this startling. One right now it goes like this. Thanks this this way too long. One pump jump. We've all been there. Does it takes ten seconds there. You go guys moment of the day. Enjoy your wednesday. Take you to jerry. Thank you each the show with boomer esiason and greg analogy boomer and geo on one of the monitors here we have not and i don't even know what the channel is the fourth have. Cbs sports network on our main one. But the other one's been running this infomercial all show long and it's been on before so this may be like ny or yes or something one of the tv gets left on it's probably s unwired. It's s and why i think so. And it's been running so after they replayed moose and sal screaming about bullpens and then they go into this. Three hour infomercial. Yup and i've been watching. It makes speeches so hungry. It really is so they have the stakes and they got the cinnamon rolls in an awesome buco. Got the chef jentzsch teela on their man. Yeah kicking ass with this thing. Right is ab- scallops. In throwing out the tortillas so it's like a chicken parm lasagna. The double chicken parm lasagna. Yes and so. It's all in this this hand. Yeah so i've been distracted here. They're looking over there like right now. He's throwing cheese and stuff in there and it just doesn't matter it just could poured right out so as i make a comment about it to boomer mcmahon and they've really look this good infomercial boomer goes. It's good because i just bought one sitting over here. The infomercial center. Hook me copper chef on his phone. I don't know. I like to cook. And everything and you saw me this summer. I'll do all the prep in every ass exactly so i was like looking at this thing on damn clean it or anything outlook. The food looks great. Is this better. Be good man. You got the copper chef own. Believable tightened pan is tight pants. Tight band wi fi. I can do my buco in there. And everything pulled pork liga this lagos or roast all my god. Oh you do a live a shallow fry with the as well then. Yeah so it's better. Be good copper chef titan pan. I told you. I get that belleville air fryer. That was great. Guy just threw a pizza in their crazy but everything. They're making good so it's just so funny that we're both watching this. Were locked in on it and you are over there silently. Buying one in the break of sorry couldn't help myself to mazing all right quickly robin save. What's up rob. Hey how are you good man. We got now. I was just laughing when you were talking about the The ghosts that you might have in your house. I live in seville as well. But i don't think it's the same thing but i was gonna offer you a swinger because i have a ghost. I actually like. We think it's a couple different in the house We had a lot of stuff that happened. that consistently happens Not not there's no timeframe it could be a month and then we have a little girl That's in the house where you have a little girl. Ghost who's in the house. Yeah you seen her with your own. Two eyes i've seen. Yeah i it kind of for. And i'm one that gets. I can't hear freaked out but it's my wife is kinda like all right. Let's see Yeah she Wondering i was sitting down. I was actually watching a game My wife was in the room and the kid. My step kids were with their dad's it was just the two of us and i was watching tv and out of the corner of my coming from where my wife is in the bedroom. I heard literally feet steps on like a kid running. And i kind of quarter. I ran past me and ran up the stairs. And i was like i had an excellent wife and the kids are not here. She's like no. And i was like i just saw a little girl run through the house and i wasn't even i was just sitting down watching the game She also has been in. My wife keeps all her old toys like our old dolls and several in the eaves and they were all boxed up. She keeps him in boxes so one day. This wasn't too long as she went in. She opened it up to clean it out. You know to go through it and see what you can get rid of or keep all the all the dolph now. The door is behind a a dresser. he can't get any like the kids can't get in there they can't move it When she moved it and opened it up the dolls were all out of their box. Got gotta be kidding me. I swear to god. I freaked out because my wife took the dolls. And she's like i i don't even think she's like oh whatever and she throws him out. I flipped on. I'm like those damn dolls. Put them right back up in that attic let her keep playing with 'em keep this thing happy because it s keep the ghost happy and you're and she doesn't then you're crazy. She's actually believes you know because she sees don't wanna found it like that now the other thing is we have it on video. I actually still have it on my phone Our when my stepson one day he start. he's yelling. We're in a house in and we looked down the hallway. He's looking up in the air at the ceiling and he's like scolding pointing to the ceiling and he's sculpting to people he's saying you you don't belong here you're allowed here your mommy's friends you and not be eager and we'll have that on your phone. I have that one. I also have my dog a little dachshund She was freaking out. Like i was just watching her. You know she was on the couch all of a sudden she starts freaking out like. There's something pushing her or hitting like touching her and she's bouncing around jumping treat balking and she keeps twitching like someone's grabbing and she freaked out but arrears back. I have this all on video. Let me ask you a question to you. North or south we are. Let's see. I am actually north of montauk. Since that's what's going on up there what's happening. Save elba in all the swinging and all these ghosts and all that other stuff you north of montauk enter any study on this new place that you're moving. No of course i did. Then that's why. I chose it because it's it's a wonderful place. There's no swinging. There's no ghost but north of montauk highway. Total freak show to me. It's not it's america's nice neighborhood. That's what it is all. it is yes. It is absolutely as each morning. Show with boomer esiason and greg naughty boomer and geo. There's an old man that haunts they upstairs bathroom. He's got a bad prostate. You'll sometimes hear attempting to urinate. Are you ready to meet the moment ozzy and our friends chevrolet proud to present real talk. Real change to help foster racial equality in america. And we're inviting you to help. Join the carlos watson as i talked with key leaders from across the country about racial disparities in america's healthcare system. Look for the carlos watson show in real talk real change on youtube and subscribe or download the carlos watson show wherever you get your podcast.

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Episode 144: Not Today, Death. Not Today

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Episode 144: Not Today, Death. Not Today

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Dj Get started the GODDAMN MVP of the American league ties it at one yeah I don't know the night bathing on three one you know what they could have easily woke up this morning they could have rolled over and died they give up that one run in the first inning one nothing forever land but the Yankees showed up tonight everyone showed up maybe minus Giancarlo but he's battling at least he at least he played not fielded cleanly and its leadoff single and all of a sudden you know he ends up that guy ends of scoring springer's of scoring on the wild pitch and it's like Oh my God could this game of of tonight that man was brought here for this game doer Di that were people have been digging on him and you know he doesn't show enough fire out there and was last night we were all my days running it was last got a few that feels like three days ago it feels so long team was and he held on the one and his next five innings were brilliant and he was great we set it all season Long James Paxton I ending runs bet the easiest in baseball we saw that rigs there winning the game to this morning it was very company laughed in my face just like he laughed when I told him Gary Sanchez go to home runs a couple of years ago and against the Red Sox did and that club just lives on in tonight twenty struggles but the way he bared down six innings one run nine strikeouts most by Yankee this year there was a point where he was shoutout to rigs thank you had the over in this game it was like seven and a half and they scored five in the first you gotta be counting money you're putting that into another late Friday night I that big game gene and I'm just don I mean it was before the twins game one where you said I think we're doing the live show maybe the big the fact that he wasn't in there then that that'll be like unexplainable why do almost wonder if he'll be if they'll say if they might put it on this worth it yeah line like yeah it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't but also wasn't like Uber's like walked wasn't limping but that's the only bad we'll talk about Jay's it any worse and Paxton easily could have just been like well this is not going to be my night once again the Astros could've had three in the first inning and really you know star throats you know what it's just TCI unless tonight is was just a case of he faced a really good power right handed pitcher I mean he did some running down the line for his ground on he looked and bill there's there's nothing that you fired up I mean that is everything in the world you WanNa see out of your Asia starting pitcher your guy telling boone go the fuck away I've got this and pack and similar to I think the grantee start in a different way in a different way nonexempt grank just couldn't find the zone it was eh every so tonight was their most important game of the season it was the only game all season or if they lost their season was over and James Paxton came through in the clutch shows he's got like if you if you if you had some sort of application whereas I've only been to catch the first inning you were fine you must have separate James Paxton start but for the most part you saw the this trade worth in and who is this guy we got that man showed up tonight he had a rough first inning and all started weird you know the grounder up the middle that was you know go back in the dug-out I've got this let's go granted that next pitch was hit to the warning track we're going out of it but like I off about it at least I legitimately think he's dealing with a really really serious injury and he's just toughing out we're not gonNA talk we're not gonNa Shit on him the fact he was in there cruise and rarely through through some of those as I think he had without yeah he I mean that's exactly when you made this trade last offseason that's exactly the guy thought you were training for frontline Aaron Hicks that man was on the fucking couch and we mocked him we're like what what is going on here you know this guy is just like Oh yeah and my elbow feels okay had it on the short porch show to where you thought James Paxton going to have one of those playoff starts that you watch the Youtube highlights all this year later he didn't have it that night but he had it tonight six they want to use the word ace or not whatever but this was the Yankees most important the Yankees are now in a now at a point where every game as their new most important game of the season let's go there's nothing better than that that makes you a welfare guy that that that just like big had always talks about it pinstripes and all that I'm not giving it to them tonight they got to him early they attack did you attack them the second fucking pitch I mean that's what you fucking and then they got a judge right after that fucking line drive Kleber doubled ends in college in right field a couple years ago but that was more down low this was like the first time I felt like I was truly in the heart of it to be there in a playoff game everyone was going nuts getting the align you thought judge should have been sent there I liked the whole there I don't know if I don't know if you've been sent I think he would have scored if he was sent I don't know about that but I don't know if you send them there Oh yeah sure here let me throw a few pitches Jacoby mobile send the Cashman cashman's like okay fuck will give it a shot through a car wash of workouts here in Yankee Stadium we'll see if we can not having back to your seat and I don't blame him when you get old you know that's a thing you know when you get older you want to sit in with with the comfortable seat but and when we get tickets to not usually there but David a little wild I think I like you know Gary a chance at back there but the astros I feel he should have had to three runs in that first sitting just off how Paxton is pitching David John D. J. Lemay who that guy got it started you know you can't I think the way to get to is early once he settles in you're not going to get the first thing sending us we're in the bleachers US and Tj we're just going nuts by the way my first night in the bleachers in my life my dad went out with him stadium just could never stand in the middle in between those inning in between that first and sixth inning two through five he was fucking lights out and he allowed the offense to get going we'll talk with the offense now out there it was all yeah it was awesome I sat in the bleachers I thought once in like a summertime day game back in the old stadium I sat once with first thing I'm not ready to give it but it was a moment but it was a moment you always talk about moment that was a moment him telling him him telling boon rocking and you know the biggest difference was tonight between tonight in yesterday's they had him on the ropes in the first inning they took advantage of it it was second and third one out and I think one run nine case all you can ask for four walks a little while to start fine del through it you know and the clip you see the clip of him telling Aaron Boone Nothing about that a playoff game and then lived up to it more than ever especially if that homerun that's you want to be in the bleachers for that Homerun you answer right field beard ing going everywhere I felt like it was fucking raining the only walk you walk away disappointed in the first inning that they would have had no shot to win tonight Aaron Hicks coming through huge we couldn't see we like one thing sitting in Aston we'll talk with the offense in the second James Paxson was Kinda rod here did what I'm talking about the the off but James Paxson was the story Nance said Jay Radic is wife or MOM's name j reading Josh Rick Sorry it's late for it is it on it was just pouring on wander and it was great it was everything you've ever wanted from a playoff game that's what the Yankee stadium should be every fucking night yeah I'll be honest getting in I didn't have great because we've we're making sure I was not doing any premature I couldn't listen I have a lot of hair on my head but I didn't want to lose all if that was a foul ball second inning that was massive and everything going from there and I mean credit to the crowd also because this is a game five games three and four it's off the foul pole just an incredible incredible you could see our reaction a tweet off a short portion Barcelo bets it's a little bit delayed it's like a half second from everyone else where we were in the bleachers every ball fields mystery like you're just hanging your like already of who could be gone this could be not and you know eventually we saw the empire say homerun in this in this postseason especially now with the no off days for four straight days starting with game four and they were left with two guys I mean that crowd could easily just not give fuck I see twenty minutes before I pitch I didn't offer me a packed crowd but it was that in those twenty minutes in between from because you'd rather have second and third and nobody out I've had enough of being thrown out at home yeah it's Hicks Aaron Hicks Carlos Out in there Oh my God did we just like Grady little ourselves pedro great a little over three but he got out of it six innings one hundred twelve pitches gut it out was dominant the team bounced back the way they did today the crowd was alive and the crowd filled up it was loud it was perfect nobody wanted dinky season to end in the bronx you know what it's now the exact I trump and that man knows how to drop a god Dan Bat that was awesome Paxton comes down big time shutdown inning after heavily walk but he ended up striking out the side forty five to seven oh five the crowd completely filled up everyone was there and they were going nuts wants dj hit the home run and from the were demoralizing watch coal we didn't want her that but that was demoralizing game four was fucking. I mean that might have been the worst loss of the year inches of how the audited three two and then got a slider hanging if you have thrown it was hanging slider all night long by the way if you have two straight nights or you have an elite pitcher on the ropes early now here is and he's hitting he sitting what do you tonight you're in the lineup tonight and he has a three-run homer against just is like the only way you're going in the bleachers house and I was like fuck you I've always had a bucket list goal and it's not like a crazy puck unattainable bucket lists but something you never done before I'm four fully rested good the go they want Britain for six outs that man was a revelation tonight he was Zach Britton was incredible they pushed so sloppy it look in care and we obviously we know they care but it it just look like like what is this this is a gain for the Croats will be going nuts game sure I feel like he posted an era that people didn't believe in because maybe he had walked if you got it seemed like he was always in baseload situation himself into but he began tonight they came in the plan was three guys three guys who having been cooking Canley Britain Chapman get it done figure out three figure out nine ounce needed up now pack them great offense got it started right away to things had to happen the bullpen has been a little bit of a weird thing to navigate opposite situation two years ago two years ago they'd go back to Houston or and just to win one they couldn't do that all right this year to go back and won both maybe they like more of a challenge was Baltimore Orioles like cy young candidates accurate he was he was untouchable. As I've seen Yankee reliever like looked here yeah I mean he was you know we were at the scoreboard their batting averages down the batting average just getting is getting ousted out of the league but they're not hitting its crane springer's averages are so low because it was six forty five place looked kind of empty we're talking talk some people behind us said that they got there like the ticket price get not I'm confident to get nine out so Britain through eighteen pitches tonight in getting five outs that's everything you want and Chapman through nine thirty nine pitches nine fastballs too yeah he's all three years ahead you can't fuck you both them may have to go three straight yeah big win obviously had to win must win big time they judge judges quote after game saying I woke up we weren't losing tonight we were going to Houston love that mentality Canley wasn't ideal comes in the fly out that springer rips a single out today walks you pull them I like the poll good poll Britain did not pitch in Hicks was down two strikes I turned to his like they have to get these two runs they have to get at least one you gotta get me at least you got to get those extra donald to right away yeah to be able to have that type of performance turnover chapman who was also lights out in the night I mean that's the formula is if if you you get the ball to Britain and Chapman and they can a ton of hits but when they're getting hits they mean a lot right springer one eighty two bregman sitting two hundred guerrillas hitting fifty we make sure that I was gonNA fucking was and after that we got that finally that Bat Aaron Hicks Pimping Bat Foot Oh that's all we wanted that the no yeah no you knew that was coming no man knows how to pimp homerun better than Aaron Hicks it's just like even walks to desert walks but when that man it's a hold on the right field I mean you're going to see into the same thing these guys just reluctant boone had him I would love I would pay to hear what she told him to tell them right before I pitch CC definitely speech I'm having a split up between Britain and China four each maybe Britain said no I think brinker to got all eight obviously needed to that anything was ridiculous yeah so to get five Alvarez hitting fifty three Torino's doesn't have a hit I mean what are we Braley hitting three hundred like Al Tube as three outs think only through twenty pitches flat maybe twenty one pitches would you know I mean at this point everyone's just going to have to go every day forget obviously not rested anyone for anything so to be gets the city they're going to get to Houston and this is what I wanted I didn't want to be down three two but Houston like you know they're not feeling we were talking almost so we were looking both had such a their homes have been so big and they've all three run home runs in game four they both had the big home runs game too so they're getting the the Yankees real outside tonight I mean they're not getting the timely hits they're getting guys on base maybe their average better we're not going to hit some they need to the astros aren't getting the forty to get a whole night add whatever I just lost my train of the whole the whole I was wrong when you got to do a bullpen and fucking who else knows and game Steph but for now Astros Act thing you just said I would have started the bullpen in this game forget it just our call but the problem is you're throwing coal on short rest so he's not necessarily Garret Cullen short rest and then if you wait if he's not himself and you waste on games and he probably gave them a one hell of a speech because they came out firing they came out lockton and that was all they needed and now transition to game six these guys are probably in a flight up probably stood up something on some sort of chair the Sturdy Chair at that and he probably had a lot of experts in that in that little in this feature and then you just have verlander and coal for six and seven you have to win one of those games yeah I that's I think what I would've done because there's a start all the Yankees got the big house tonight yeah and the guys run base got huge now we transitioned to game six the ashes have already said they're gonNA book Marnie mushrooms seen in like the trial in the series of like he's GonNa hit every time none of these guys are hitting it's like you said I think we honestly have a better average vigneault today was a good start for and huge green today Massoud 'cause he's probably starting tomorrow yeah so then we'll we'll so exactly that's why didn't understand why hinch committed several under immediately I would have just thrown the game for for Friday for game five so we're looking at probably doable open games right. I would think yeah so I would here tomorrow he's got the pitching breakdown here of everyone that's been thrown so I think green starts I almost want to say they're looking ahead to the next series but even then like coal pitches Sunday's not pitching until Thursday which was on Friday it's just corpses in I feel it now now I'd say probably better average about I think it would surprise you name four was tough you would think if Houston three do you have a better chance of beating Justin verlander and Yankee Stadium or in Houston it just didn't know what for Houston there was a chance the astros could tonight if the game and if not okay how fun trying to beaver land or coal back to simple science so yeah he's ready to go on Amino is going to have to get an important out in one of these games it's just GonNa have to happen unless we're one hundred percent yeah because I mean I don't know who else would you know want Outta Montesino facing top of the order even though they insist on that J. Hap- I mean you'd rather aims to to on the Yankees that they're just bludgeoning the ball and they're not I mean there's there's just not doing that it's just it's his time has been good for the Yankees let's it finally right now leaving as we saw eleven for you I mean they left the stadium I think by now and they're probably in the they're going to be in the air momentarily and I two innings of this game happily available for two to three innings through four innings yeah three to four let's say three innings. I think Britain and Chapman are certainly it wasn't the original plan it's because of the rain the rain out game that's why they had to readjust to readjust they could've just went a bullpen game for five then I think he's available for game seven yeah so he's available tomorrow they rested these guys for this moment for like they're fully capable they have the strength to do this eight fucking pitches tonight yeah pitch he's Tamar and he's available he's available Sunday if we get there when we get there so owing them out both games not going to happen so it is much tougher doable game when one of your relievers just isn't good stuff so I think green will for sure it's the Tommy keenly can he go first third day narrow then he's unavailable for game seven if you I don't think he's unavailable I think he just it's fourteen and eight if he throws another fourteen pitch any HAP- I'm gonNA say Green and go for four for sure because even to from green isn't a lot I think he could do it but I could see him pulling him after one two and seventy nine the question is what do you do for innings five and six there's going to be six outs are going to have to really get grade of is it hap- for another three and then game four four game through the talk about the world series what I'm saying maybe they're looking ahead they're looking passing to college they're going to regret all right this had dropped I was like Oh l. p. c. bucks for their he's forty or fifty people are giving up on the season. I hope the Yankees don't give up the fact that could could could do without seeing Johnny Lasagna in six and seven auto Vino I bet they give him another chance I mean what what are you GonNa do just have them there and never petro Goethe Vino de go to go lions lasagna Sesa Heller the spinning wheel of whoever I've got an idea how about you scored eight runs in the first inning the chance of winning of Rwanda's start Houston Houston or Yankee Stadium it's in Houston right and they just I mean thanks thank you and you hope with the decision they they rule off season under through one five tonight and then peacock eight pitches so everyone else got a full day of rest before that essentially all their big guns pitched third maybe I want those two for I would like them for at least five after go for they have to get at least four you have keenly Britain Chattan Elba for one in the NPS no problem yeah and then what do you do for six and seventy give out of success it could get an inning he looked really good only one Briton one for Chapman that could be the four horsemen but I think it's going to be half going three is so big I think on Saturday I think listen bring in Ryan Presley again I know he we're GonNa get the rhyme Presley again pre just keep bringing that guy that thinks he gives up James is begging to get just absolutely shit pumped at some point and then Smith he's going to do one of those out of you know fucking grooving in I guess if we're trying to I mean it's GonNa be impossible not this because you don't know how it's going to go but I would go from off my head green for two HAP for three you can have for three hits I think I also think Zuma is a ticking time bomb I'm not terribly scared when that comes that guy comes in no now now Robert He's a guy who's going to have one a big playoff save on his resume yeah Harris too I know he's got this like fucking stupid goatee thing going on I think they can rock Harris at some point kneecap and Hellers now I don't know how much I trust Ben Howard I don't either I'm just saying I'm throwing out the name towery and Surf Cessna Johnny Lasagna I mean great images four innings to go with pretty much just normal pay yeah because then one for auto one for audemer shows you one hundred dollars I can't believe that certain Cole I mean I don't know I get it but like I think Houston just would want to avoid a gate sliders at one point in someone's just GonNa tee off could be judge I could see judges teeing off on a Joe Smith like sidearm bullshit no not fucking buddy now accidentally tweeted out I'm switching from my bird shit shirt to my green shit I mainly green shirt that was an unfortunate typo the devil came to me if you knocked on the door right now and none of you listen to the conversation he was like Erik presenting a deal the Yankees won the world series but you're just dead so glad they were not want the I hate this whole team I hate this whole team got if we could go into in Houston right in front of their fucking scumbag fan could throw Jay half or three tomorrow but you start the thirteenth which is game too that's Sunday his business ends faces oh just orgasm I think I did this make me high I thought to myself today I think what series is twins raised nationals or whatever then it doesn't count well how about this how about we come back from three one against the Astros one hundred seven win team under eighty six kitty breaks the train the train falls off the hit so hard I like my chances in game six I don't know what the line will be I don't know if they've released them gambling line world series champion two years again we're getting ahead of ourselves one game at a time we play tomorrow we went tomorrow Deficit Shadow Talk Sports for picking up our pregame pretty after this year done great loss I want one at that badly that's how badly I wanted to come back from three one and the just fucking shit pump the nationals one eight and he just you can pitch tile we know nine I mean what the have been gradients astros bullpen so here's what they're looking at bullpen wise. I mean to have gambling line yet but I imagine we'll be favorites I know we'll be underdog or SM we'll be a smaller dog in the worse I'm I'm GONNA say minus one time today we've got a W. It's got some beer on it fucking love the bleacher creatures. Tommy smokes what do we say to the God of death the time yeah and throwing it on their show what a fucking win XS Batra pack some so good I'm just scrolling through everything it was also nutrition's by the way no more But yeah and I got this baby I'm never worn looking I've never worn this ninety six world series Mitchell nece jacket that they sent to me war I no more cert- I went to my lucky green shirt which I've worn for big events in my life always comes through for me came through tonight you short porch byproduct of Barstool sports stain nope not today not fucking day we'll see for game six talking go let's force us to seven we'll see you back here tomorrow Oh there's John Sterling you've been listening to is out there somewhere I feel it gets going pretty close to even by the hecker positive now because I took the Yankees stunning and the run line good job Eric it does not appear like forty maybe for the Astros some I like my chances though I like my chances after after game four to be in this situation so many people were like laughing this offer wonder you're going to be Justin verlander all easy he's never lost the Yankees guess what we bucket fight we fucking beat Justin verlander yes just fucking them for me uh I would that's that's all I need my life remember when you know a week ago we were getting stupid and KFC's tweeting all the Yankee haters out the Yankees route to the plight.

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Last Word With Big Duke- Episode 8

Hogsmen Podcast presents Talk To The Hog

49:19 min | 2 weeks ago

Last Word With Big Duke- Episode 8

"Welcome ladies and gentlemen to another episode of the last word with big do guy of course your host big duke joining me as always my producer. Adam what's going on our. I'm good I'm really hoping. I don't have a broken hand. Why would you last night. I was at my girlfriend's house playing with our kids. We were running you. Oh i'm ultra competitive decide to raise our kids and i fell because we're running downhill on. I didn't realize it until we were halfway down the hill and i ain't shit and scraped up my knee my arm and now the inside of my palm like black and blue. So i'm hoping it's just a really bad sprain. Yeah but i literally can't make a right now so there's chuck agenda i did. That's what that's what. I said when i got up buzz like you know what i'd rather i'd rather have my hands and my elbows. My knees take all the damage land right on my face. While the moneymaker you know it's true that's true. Hopefully everything check sound swelling. We'll go down here in a couple of days. Just some ice in some baby. Aspirin cured in a week like right now. I'm kind of in the middle of like between health insurance but my roommate's even tell me he's like all they're going to do is give you pain meds and maybe throw a cast on their if it's broken so you could cash yourself and you do the cash yourself right. I'm just icing at a ton. So iso- dude it's all you gotta do in this hope for the best. Hope it's just really bad sprain. Oh man that sucks. Now is the weekend so far. Pretty good not so bad trying to react. Limit myself back into All ballot california california life realizing that everything is still so expensive is when i left. You know apparently weren't a new tier out here where i can lodge. I go to padre games. I have to show them my vaccination card. Well that's good. Yeah did you've got your second shot already right. I got it on saturday. Yeah okay so are you gonna show your card a oh yeah i mean if i wanna go. I'll do it. But it's like. I have people i have friends. That are just they have no interest in it. So get in the vaccination. So i'm like all right. Well guess. I'll go with myself. I'd to shit august. I thought you meant if what was. I gonna be one of those people that post on twitter and facebook on that. I got my car vaccinated. Everyone's doing that. Yeah yeah it's it's whatever i mean. We're all super excited for you. Congratulations yeah great. You got your shot. Some did not have any side. It's symptoms so nice. Good that's good man will I've been off of work this week. I took a week off for vacation. Been wanting to do a lot of home improvement stuff to my house. i went. I started my vacation on friday. When i got also work weekend was normal sunday. I went to my first phillies game in twenty twenty one. I thought you were going saturday. Tweet something about going saturday. And then i tweeted. The bryce harper wasn't playing. But that wasn't the game you know. I went no so yes so saturday so they played the cardinals there that weekend. Series saturday. I'm you know going scrolling through twitter and i see that bryce harper's out due to back tightness and i went. Oh now is going to be out tomorrow. It's an afternoon game. They're gonna play tonight gonna have the one o'clock he's out. The rest of the weekend is going to ramp up this series with the giants. So i'm super supervised. I'm like fuck man he is. he's out you know mind you. There's other players that i wanna see. I wanted to see mony. Aca one of the bomb really tall. Aaron nola was pitching on sundays Superstock about that But obviously the main reasons rainy phillies fan. You want to go to bryce harper. Yeah you know So i i go to the end of the game on sunday. I go down to the italian market. I and i'm walking through just kind of check out checking everything out. And i'm like where's the lineup card. Atlanta car has been set. So i get the notification like phone when cards are submitted. Yeah and i get the alert. And i i see that. He's he's he's back in the lineup for sunday for rape hours before the game brother if i didn't feel like rocky balboa writing down through the italian market gone up the steps in fucking raising my hands throughout superstars. That's good. I'm happy you got any hit home. Hit that bomb right. I first at bat in the first inning and his one of those things. Where i wish i mean. Obviously diehard fan Diehard fans on social media. Who their favorite player. They take video odds every at bats you know and i wish i would have done that to get my reaction. I was like a fucking kidding candy. Store the cool thing is though is that when he rounded second where i was sitting he pointed up at these seen tweet. He just can't respond this team. He knew i was there. I was there i was you know but again out superpower. It was great game tuneup victories. In the silliest air nola pitched a complete game shutout first of his career super. No that was awesome. That was that. I was there to see that the atmosphere was awesome. The weather was great. The fan the had the when you went to your gains down in florida How was their seating layouts at it. Look at the ballpark pretty much. Everyone was spread apart. Where in the mi- end the minor league ballpark. I went to was way more. It was less spread out. But that's not less there. Were less peaceful there too so okay. Okay 'cause i get at citizens bank park. Whatever seats were not available. They were zip tight down. Yeah that i saw. I saw a lot of that. That happened wrestlemainia to like oak. Pretty much anyplace. I went where they had the separate seating there. Weren't caesar suppose anyone paid for. They would zip. Tie them so no. Right right yeah. I thought that was super cool. The line to get into the team store was fucking on real. I wanted to go in and check it out. See what they had because sunday they were doing. Some sort of you know you spend x. Amount of money. You get a free guests this this and this and i just wanted to go into teams store because honestly i mean i have a bryce harper jersey. I really wanted to get out soldiers. That's what i wanted. I wanted to by myself. Malik bomb jersey to ask But just the line to get into the store. Like i probably would have been there the entire game just to get in earth at that point. No it's not an and even after the game. I was like okay. Maybe after the game it'll be fine still they. Everyone has the same mentality you know. And i was like well you know what. I'm sure i'll be down here again. This year awaits. Yeah i mean it's not a big drive for you is. It was about about an hour and a half hour. Forty five minutes straight shots. You'll be back. Yeah i'll be back and it was cool. 'cause on monday or tuesday monday. They announced that they were opening up more tickets through june june tent. As like oh cool. Let's see what series there are and the red sox are coming to town and I would still. You intended that series before so i thought oh maybe i'll get tickets for that but then of course tuesday. I'm out running around doing stuff with the house. And by the time. I got back home i went. Oh shit those things went on sale. Yeah i quickly went onto phillies ticket website. And nothing that i would you know. I don't mind up high. But i was like i'm good and they're playing well too so you you've got the name brand of the reds plus. They're playing well so it's like all right. I'm going to sell us fast. yes so now. It's okay the braves coming after that. And then the yankees come in and then the padres come in. So i'm like you know what. Lemme lemme wait it out. Let's see what they do for the Let me see when they go on sale for that. And then maybe i'll scoop up those. You know at least a game. A piece for those series. Yeah you know blood with the yankees when we'll get into that shortly Even with the padres too because obviously with tattoos being back People would wanna go see that stat series in general. Yeah you know so but no yeah my my weekends been or my week has been going pretty good. It was cold here today. Buckets note here this morning. I woke up. This morning was snow on the ground. Like you gotta be kidding. Me april april. It seems like that's happening more and more every year. I was watching the cleveland game earlier. And they're like yeah. There was snow here yesterday. Yeah oh yeah and then tomorrow it's going to be you know in the near seventy the next week incident. Actually warm ups going to be in the eighties next week. So i'm pretty stoked about that. But this entire week i've been focusing on doing stuff on the outside of been i have this tree line of bushes shrubs alongside of my house and i was like i gotta get rid of that so i'm doing some landscaping on. It went and bought myself brand new reciprocating saw and was start. Hacking away at those Not quite done yet. I got a couple more to do tomorrow. And then i'll get through those this weekend. And then i'll start visualizing my landscaping. I wanna put down mulch. Do i wanna put down rock rock. I wanna put down to. I wanna put down a border to border. Do i want to Plastic or do. I want brick. Where am i going to get the brick adam. it's a it's a long process. Yeah and it's you know. I don't think everyone on the west coast gets that you know. There's like a certain part of the year where you just don't even worry about the outsider like it's going to be cold and snowy all the time who cares and i have to i have to. I'm gonna have to buy as someone the compressor wash my house. you know. that's the thing. Oh yeh i used to see all that kind of stuff. When i lived out in new york city. You know what that's like it's it's you know. People are so used to every time of the year out. Here you can just get up and go outside. People don't get that like half the year out on the east coast. It's like you can't go anywhere you can't do it. You just gotta sit inside and chill inside and that's exactly what it was. Today today was like forty five degrees. I mean got everything ready. I was like what the dog outside. I'm going to go out there and get the rest of this done. I got out got everything set up and then it just started being windy and cold. You know what this ain't worth it. I'm not doing that today. I'm not gonna freeze my ass off it sod's stall over myself blowing around getting another peoples property of them. Come bitch at me. So you know what i'm done. I'm going gonna hang out today there. You go which i did you know. clean the house and got some other stuff done laundry. Get stuff ready for. I go back to work on monday. phillies at a day off today. So they didn't have to stress myself out. They got a weekend series coming up with with colorado. Which will which will get into your yankees. My man five and ten now. They're six eleven. Looks like they're gonna win tonight. So they're they're gonna be seven and eleven. Get the slushy gets a slurpee is ready. It's been so hard to watch him for a while. Now it's not like this is a brand new thing for me. It's been a class couple years. It's very much like a bull but what about. Why is it this year. What's what's now mind you. I try to keep up with a lot. Yeah and and and i try to understand what's going on who's hurt. Who's not but with the payroll that the yankees have the players at the yankees. Have where stan he's playing. He's playing. nobody. Nobody's hurt other than luke void right. Now everybody's healthy what's new beau. So what are they not hitting. They're just not hitting they're not even putting effort in last night. Glacier hadn't that battery tapped the ball in front of the plate and he just didn't even run didn't even hustle. They're just getting their ass kicked. They don't even look like they're putting effort in the the problem with teams like that with judge and stanton is when they get colds. The they can't win games. It's impossible because everybody's striking out. That's the thing about baseball. It's like everyone strikes out way too much now so it's like when those teams go slow like it's not going go well lemay. He was struggling to. He's been the catalyst of the offense glacier doesn't seem like he he's him nor comfortable now but he's been struggling at shortstop like there's just so many things over the last couple of years of just so frustrated like i'm hearing like the reason they didn't do anything in the offseason is because the owner wanted them to get under the luxury tax so that's why they signed corey kluber for a bargain and traded for jameson tone for a bargain. I'm like this is the fucking new york yankees. What are you doing. Like i i guess. Last year was tough on everybody all these sports teams with the pandemic and stuff but like one. Let's not pretend like the yankees aren't soaking in legs. Same would like w w people like that like. You're bringing all this money where he firing people felt like when the yankees it's like. Uk you've cl- earlier you know in a situation where you need to you know improve your team a little bit like your team has super station super under athlete. Super non athletic. You keep throwing brett gardner out there for some ungodly reasons like you know in joe judge's clerk just her i don't know what's wrong with judge. He's not really hustling to get balls anymore. You can tell when he runs. He looks like he's hurting. And then they. They took him out of the lineup. A couple of weeks ago and it didn't they didn't really explain it. Yeah it's like. It's one of those things. I can't even be positive. This is going to change because yeah the hitting might come around. They're gonna hit home runs at some point but then it's just gonna stop again when the playoffs come around the playoffs. You're facing everybody's best pitchers you're not facing the orioles fifth starter in may like you're not. That's not what you're familiar playoffs like so you know. And then garrett. Cole is literally the only pitcher on the team. Rhinos pitching well like her. Mom had goodman outing tonight but it just is like there's no hope on the horizon I never thought they should've fire girardi anyway. That was always one of my big issues. And i hate like girardi is basically just create recreated. The what. I would want the yankee team to look like in philly. He's got dd there. I wish didi was still at the yankees. Alex harris to even though he's not really a i would much rather have real mood. I have no idea why the yankees didn't pursue rahmutallah damore. He's like one of the best catchers like eva's and it's like slave for the marlins so no one really knows who is and they should have manny machado like that. I don't know why they haggled with manny machado and didn't pay him a couple years ago like you can say well they wouldn't have. Dj lemay you then. Why wh why. It's always my question of you. Did this thing for the longest time re spent money like you don't have to always spend money. I don't think like paying forty million dollars for trevor. Bauer isn't smart but like whatever manny machado. Got with the padres. I'm like you could have done that that. He's he's worth that. This is my big problem with like. It's why i think baseball is never going to get that Younger audience that it wants. Because there's just such a part of it is just like so old school and like we don't want to change the game like why are why is there not h in the national league. Like why do i have universal d. h. Why do i have to watch air. Nola takes swings in the sixth inning. When it's an automatic out. Because like i mean you know you're you're in the little league coach now. Lake hit pitchers aren't hitting anymore. Now even the little league so the first time these pitchers hitting is when they get it to the major leagues. Then that's true that's true I'm i'm all for the university age but again at obviously you know old school baseball fans and you will be watching it for years. You know it takes away from the game. You know there are some bitches who can actually it. You know Is that rare of course but you know well that ever happened being a universal d. h. Is it might take a few more. Maybe another year or two. I can see that happening. You know you're you you ranting about your yankees i'm gonna rant about my phillies You saying that you like with georgia artists. Doing here in philly. I i don't. I just like joe girardi as a manager in general like seeing another another guy there now in buner the complete opposite like i can't stand boone. He's literally every day. It's like we're this. Close this close in the post gambling. That's stop saying that shit. It's the Gerardi is there. Ninety nine The rate they're still. It's still early. It's only eighteen games this season. Plenty of time to turn it around but the way Coaching right now. I'm i'm not a fan of it. The other night he. He took out with only eighty six inches. Going into that thing. It was the seventh inning. It's still a little bit over the threshold but the floor words. I never wanted to start saying that. I said a lot last year. Was that god damn bullpen. Because they came any other night. And i'm thinking okay. Kinzler pitched good for florida or miami. The previous year at he gives up a three run home. Runs it to darren rough opinions. You know buster posey hitting two home runs in game from from the phillies bullpens. You you guys came in here saying that you guys improve the bullpen. It's flashbacks of last year. The starting lineup y- I don't know what's going on with him. Reese hodgkin's was hot in the beginning. Now he's cooled off. He doesn't he doesn't work the counts he. He doesn't get what he wants to put the ball over the fence. You're number two hitter. Get on base you got you got three four or five behind you get on base. Yeah you know braces hot right now prices on his streak He's going ride that until the hands. You know do it anymore. That's the other big part about what isn't good about baseball now. Like you're like gerard is not making those calls the guy in the dugout. That's talent. I know because he talked about it when he was on the yankees. There's a guy running a computer in the dugout. the analytics guy who's literally yeah effluence. Struggles after eighty six pitches. So they take him. This is the bullpen gay. Should bring you should hit hoskins second because his his exit vitolo is yada yada yada just all these like things that some of it matter but for the most part like why are you give guys days off after they hit two home runs because they don't believe in hot. They don't believe that people can get get hot. They believe that's all bullshit and they don't believe momentum and all this other stuff. I'm like no those are real things like when certain teams win the world series. Sometimes the marlins win a world series basically on momentum like they weren't very good. Yes it's again it's baseball gets in. Its own way so often whereas like basketball and football. They get in their own way but they're still popular to be overtaken by anyone. Tros joe union. It's so funny. You said the word and i think this is where you'll you'll hit the drum roll here and the episode. I make this big announcement right now. But he said the word analytics. Okay and i think. I posted on twitter social media or even instagram page. But yes it is true. I got accepted into a master's program with the california university of pennsylvania. I'm going to get my masters in sports management with the emphasis on sports or integrated sports management analytics. I believe that's what it's called. But i'm gonna be who knows. I might be that guy in the dugout years from. Now you're gonna you're going to like the computer. Say i should take him out. But you're going to delete it and be like no right it out dude you know what. Oh but he's pitched three hundred pitches. I don't care he gets better after three. Oh one trust me see. That's one of those things it's like the pitch counts and stuff like those weren't a thing like in nineteen nineties. I think it's only a thing now. Because you've made it a thing like johan santana broke down after that perfect game or whatever because he'd never thrown that many pitches before who had his body would have been used to like i. It's like abusing their arms. But if these guys are going to get tommy. John surgery anyway. An all new. There aren't many pitchers in baseball. Have never had a tommy john surgery. Just just do it like. Just let them let them go a little bit. Like i'm not saying having throw one hundred and seventy pitches in game they're gonna throw one twenty. That's not a big deal. That's yeah because it's all about obviously it's the below cities speed the movement. It says is that you know what i'm saying. A lot of pitches rely on their. You know their their their stuff. They're one in there to pitch. Throw your best pitches if you work the three in there. Maybe even the fourth pitch of our hell you might have the fifth that you might that no one's ever seen before but if your first two pitches or your festival on your curb all those fucking things until someone it you know what i'm saying like the erno. For example he's got four pitches. He's got his fastball curveball. He's got to change up. And i believe he's got knuckle curse which is rarely done. But i mean you got to be a starting you have to have at least three pitch. You have to have at least three. And if you if you if you only have if you have to really really good pitches like if you throw a good fastball. A curveball probably make a career as a good closer reliever guy. Most of those guys only have two pitches and that's why they're in the bullpen. Because that's all they can do it. Come in bro. One hundred miles an hour and be done right and that's what the bullpen is nowadays. That's that's what it is. Only the clock in at the triple digits even to be even on fucking were even on the roster you know for a starting pitching starting pitching is just inside from their top three. I knew the problems. We're going to be there back in their of their rotation. I think i'm going to start drinking again tomorrow Because vince alaska's pitching tomorrow. I i love vince. I think he's a good player but his time has run. Its course he might come out tomorrow in colorado should on the mound and fucking throw jam. That's gonna be probably as one for the interior and call our colorado. That would definitely scare me the colorado. They're not gonna to be there six twelve right now. I'm in the oils of the two worst teams in baseball. So so i you know. I say this with you know being hopeful that i hope they jump on the merrily. You know they hit the ball out of the courts field in that sick mountain air. Yeah you know but right after that you gotta go to saint. Louis you've got. You took one away from saint louis on sunday with nola but you gotta play them. You gotta play their four now. Is that a three. So it's gonna be a tough little stretch for them. Hopefully they come back next week with a better record next. Thursday is adam we are going to be doing salat. Not legacy could save lives because we're going to be recording the night of the nfl draft. I'm gonna have my s- checker up right here. We're going to be announcing a pick. Says they come in getting our reactions. You being the jets fan number two. Pick tall it right now. Who do you think's gonna. Who do you think's gonna get picked. Zack wilson you don't know it's definite. Oh i mean. They ask. Joe douglas today about drafting and did the. I don't know but then when he talked about zack wilson. He smiled the whole time. Okay it's a foregone conclusion one to is lawrence and and also thin and some people are even saying it's the first three are pretty much done with joe. Mack jones is going to be number three number three to san francisco san. Because i'm not. I don't know if you saw this last weekend but Justin field apparently has epilepsy. He's been dealing with epilogue really apparently been controlled and hasn't affected his football career. But i'm like people are already creating seven thousand excuses. Why he shouldn't be a top ten. Pick like he's not going to be a top ten pick for sure. Now he's going to what if he sneezed. He slips all the way the nineteen washing that washington. Football team is just looking at him going here. We go the at that. At that point he's gonna be on left. Because i'm pretty sure trae. Lance is going to go three or four. I don't know why the falcons take a quarterback. It doesn't seem smart from team-building perspective like they're stuck with matt for at least two more years cause the cabin. So would you rather draft an all time. What looks like an all time. Great prospect tight end and kyle pits or demar chase because you know julio jones is also not going to be playing so it's like get matt ryan some help so maybe he can win the super bowl because those guys could definitely help you right away. I think it's true. That's true because you still have. Julio jones stop calvin ridley on the outside throw in at yay that kyle fits pick you know they don't. They never really had a tight. End outside of tony gonzales. Or when that fucking guy. Who lasts austin hooper also You know other than that at st throw pits out there on slot. Run jones ridley deep three. And you can. You can make one more super bowl run. I think with matt ryan if you had a good offense and at least sustainable defense like just got him by like the offense is gonna look different now. Anyway it's the guy from Tennessee so it's going to be very run heavy. So i would expect them to a running back at some point in the draft to 'cause i don't think mike davis is gonna be you know taking thirty carries a game and this year. He looked good last year and carolina. When mccaffrey was out. But yeah i wonder what would picks atlanta hands outside of the first round. Like what did it. What is their second round of like. Because there's a lot of backs in college coming out that would that would a very pass. I guess they would need to pass catching. Yeah we'll back you know the two top ones harrison at theanswer. I guess pass catchers. But i think because there's so few running backs at are good this year. I think they're going to go in the first round whereas last year. You had taylor dobbins acre on all these guys incite. We can wait. We'll get a good one in the second round no matter what whereas this year they're pretty much harris and any and then i think devante williams from north carolina's hot one that people like he's has a running back body. I think everyone seems like. And i think after that it's pretty much dark throws like they might be good. They might be out of the league in two years right so you guys are gonna go in the third round second round third fourth ring. Yeah i you you sit in yet. Najji harris logo. He'll be it'll be late first-round but that that one that you were saying after that travesty. Tnn on clemson that that's tampa bay. Pick right there. If i've ever seen one. Oh my god if he can slipped all the way down there with all the weapons that back to for for Tampa tom the having. Ntn coming out of the backfield. Catching i i feel so sad for him. Just just give him just. Yeah just give them the fucking trophy now. Because you're not going to stop that. I'm sorry you're not so. You're going to roll out four net ronald jones. Geo bernard bucket. Yeah i think. It's i think if the draft ends and najji harris isn't a pittsburgh steeler. I'll be super surprised right. It's such a pittsburgh. Pick they pick twenty four writings and anyone anyone bad. 'cause entered into shit kaelin. Balaj is not gonna tear the world apart. Nope nope i think. That najji harris. That's a good pick by steelers. I definitely want to see. What would philadelphia does 'cause i know they don't get this right. The whole city will burn to the ground coming up here with the whether they got the tall. Pick this year. they're coaching adult. He's a fucking idiot. I'm doing rock paper scissors with the trap. And then he's like. I don't know the quarterback as you don't know the quarterback is between jalen hurts and joe flacco dip yep. I don't like the phillies jansen. No i by no means by an eagles fan but but listening to plenty of sports talk radio instill elsia in just in just in general I i last at what they do. I really do in this. Come thursday a week from today If they don't get this right they're going to be calling for his head. Ranil there'll be there'll be lined up at lincoln. Financial field would catch forks. Which guy you think is going to get fired. I him or the dope in detroit. Who talked about biting people's kneecaps off. You know that. Oh well the. Dan cancer and dan campbell the old football mentality that literally. Nobody believed nobody follows that shit anymore. I think i think. I think campbell will be the one to go first. Because that's that's that's a detroit thing philly. They wanna live in misery so serianni does not do well. I mean yeah. It's his first year. He got the high draft pick. You got you know. You have your weapons. Still your defense is whatever's but they'll give serianni a little leeway it's cut if if if they are hyping themselves up as they as they claim to be in they're not in first place in the nfc east come the year end or even make the playoffs. That's when they'll be calling for his head. I can't i can't imagine a scenario where they're not last place in that division like if dak is back there's no way dallas is in it you know. Washington doesn't matter bekker's that defense is going to win them six games and then whoever. The quarterback is just has to win three more. And that's probably gonna win the division. And i don't like daniel jones. I think he sucks. But if barclays back in that offensive line is any good and barclays able to carry that team at all then. Giants should be better. I think the giants were weren't that bad last year. Right then they weren't. They weren't tanner something and they still have a high. They got a high draft. Pick to you know so they can get one of those receivers. They can have one of those lineups to wear. It's you know slayton shepherd on the outside in someone else reno running down the middle. You know a jomar chase. The devante smith jalen wassily with with wit saquon in the backfield. Hey why not. I just i can't i cannot see chase getting passed on by the bengals especially with joe burrow being there joe burrow joe burrow's bread and butter their joe burrow's knocking to let his college. Buddy get go anywhere. No you drive drafting jomar chase. And that's it if that's if he gets to them and if there is if i don't know how good cincinnati's defense was. But i i really did like borough if they get a good draft. Pick especially what they were able to do last year. You know win. Borough was in the lineup. Yeah hey they might turn some as they might be this year. Is cleveland browns. Cleveland please will be cleveland. They might by duck far this year in. That'll be a bigger guy. Don't think he's no. I don't. I don't like baker mayfield not at all. It's you have the seasons where you watch a team and they're winning and you're like i don't believe this. I'm glad they're winning. But i don't know how this is happening right. And then the next year those teams come back. You're like oh. That's why. I didn't see it because it wasn't real. It was a mirage. The browns were that team last year. And i'm sure if the jets win this year. I'm sure everyone will say the jets are going to be that team because every washington has nineteen pick. I wonder what what i'll here minding. They like they really want trae lance until i keep hearing. You're not gonna get trained lines. If they i mean if they were basically kill their draft to do it do they could they. They could but they're not gonna get trae. Lance does read it out. Let let fitzpatrick Thing like you were saying. Six games convenient six fifth win three. Let's let's get to nine and seven. Let's get into the playoffs and let's see what happens again. Like they did last year. Obey their coaching. Staff is really helping. That fields falls. Because i mentioned they are yield is very much of the cam newton. Ilk and that's that's just the body type. The speed the way moves like i know people look at that something else like that but yeah i could definitely see that being a quarterback that they would it basic. They would come and you would have that. Let him learn this year under fits and even tyler heineke let him learn you know and then see what happens this year the next year loaded up the taylor hiding load was my favorite football moment of two thousand twenty. Oh it's great. The twitter just was a delight that night which you so often don't say that because twitter is usually cesspool of terribleness. But yeah taylor heineke game. I was like all right. Let's go nothing is more exciting than like the third string quarterback winning a game for a team in. It's like that's great. I would love to see that more. I you know. we'll see what happens. Come you know training camp. I know the schedules are coming out here. Shortly at in the next couple of weeks right no. Said noah arap the draft. I do know that who's coming out here this year. at washington. Do not chargers are coming out here this year. Good good did you got to get everybody out here. Get devon devon zone. Good he he hit me up the other day when i saw that tops. Put out this really cool fernando tatis card project project seventy card. Yeah i thought it was sweet and he could on twitter. I can order just one like yet devon linked. You don't need order fuck impact to get it. You know but he texted me. He was like is there any worth. Is there any value in that. Cardi said well. That's that's the if you wanted for your own personal collection you know. I got one. I ordered lunch. Because i like to tease. It's cool because it san diego. I lived in san diego for a long time. So i i i. I'm gonna have for me but he goes. We'll is earned value. I said well you never know. Twelve those cards where you just never know. Do you get that gold one. That's said yet you might get the gold one. You might get the other ones. Guess what that's worth a lot of money you know Okay okay. i'll order it i. I don't think that but you know if he did. Great if not. That's all right if you listen to. This whole tweeted out the picture. Prime sure he will. Yeah Tops has been coming out with fucking sweet s cards. I actually ordered another one. Today they're getting so much money for me I ordered a just one one card. It was the the mickey mony first career. Home run tops. Now card is rookie card I order that today so that should be coming here in the next week or so. So i'm excited to personal collection. I got a few more that. I just picked up the last couple of days. Here what did i get. Hope i got this one. This one's fucking. This was a blast from the past If you're going to be able to see that can't see who it is. This is a nineteen ninety nine tops. Chrome pat burrow. Oh my god gem minton. I love pepperell. i've saw this on on. Ebay is rookie card. Till i saw i went. What much guy selling for site. I quickly scooped it up and got it in the got it in the mail and then i also got this one to. You're gonna be able to pick it up. But i actually got this the night of actual carlos That's the white sox pitcher who pitched a no hitter. I picked that up the night that he threw a no hitter. Timing i it was. it was I was on I had to. I was at the game on it was actually a good stream was coming through so i had the alert saying that. Oh so and so's having a no hitter through seven. I was like oh okay. So i just you know. Go on ebay. I wanted to see what the prices were at the time. It was very very low price. It was like fidgets discard was like two bucks. Yeah so on letting it go online at slide or whatever and then come the eighth he still has it. You know. Let me go. Let me go. And it's in my cart and he goes ahead and does it. E- ends up pitching a no hitter. And i went finau nights quickly snagged it and i i literally got it for altogether with tax shipping. It was four dollars and fifty cents a the go a son who was so mad he was probably going off and then he shot. Somebody's got it. Here's all this but the sellers on ebay. They can go ahead and cancel the order. If they wind retirement money you know but even just like his special refractory in his other rookie cards bomb also up. The prices just shot up and a lot of the cards that work that he that guy that people had were quickly scooped up so glad. I got it a avid kuo personal collection. Mary threw a no hitter. I wish i had a mess grove. But i couldn't get one But yeah that was the only other. Yeah i really didn't really get a lot lately. I would've went to big cart. Show on sunday but i was down in philly for the baseball game but yemen is. I don't know what we're gonna do next week. That's i'm sorry do we're gonna do the light stuff with drafts. Yeah yeah Kinda kinda through this all together today. I didn't i was going to have a china have guest but they were busy so i was like all right. We're gonna freestyle today. Actually grin adam schefter on two o. Line during the draft. You know what i wanted to do before he came on. I was thinking. I was like man. You know what. I've been trying to get bryce harper from the phillies organizations. Even just come on to the podcast. Just talk you know eve of his five minutes. I thought to myself man. You know maybe next week maybe practice something Right up a speech and you know record it you know and have a little video for for me to have so i can put it on twitter and introduce myself. I say this is. I'm dan. This is my friend mike producer out. We run the the now the last word of big podcast where we gotta like do this little thing and i thought that's the quickest way to get you blocked probably on twitter. Also maybe. maybe we'll still do you think let's do it. We got to get somebody on her. Somehow i know you get somebody. Even i don't care who it is devon's a football expert and he'll come on you know what maybe i promise. You did not listen to last week's listen to last week we would both would have gotten twenty two twenty to thirty tax because we we we. We pull those shovels out and we buried him. Yeah he still coming up. Maybe you know what i'll retort and i'll say you know what. Listen adam schefter. Let's record on thursday load will record during the draft. Give us your thoughts. Give us we think is coming next. Let's have some fun with there. You go you'll be you're gonna be our guests not the other way around exactly and we can bury them to his face tons fair going on this weekend. Nothing i had. I had plans. But i don't think i can do most of them now with the way. Yeah you better you better you better get that taken care of dude. I mean there's not much. I can do right now sanchez. Sit it out in. Not move it as much as i can. Just wait until the swelling goes down. It's all you can do. My hand is super swollen right now. Yeah man you better take care of that. I appreciate you coming on recording. This of course It's i know it's gonna be a quick little episode but we're gonna get off superstar. The net might got some stuff out this. I know mike came back this week. I'll have to. I know his podcast came out. Still have to tune into that. He's been looking really super Dedicated to this whole. I don't know if he's trying to get into blood sport or you know motto. Combat or something. But he's looking pretty cool dude like. I wish i had to do that. I can't can't can't do that. They can't do that. Trend that training training thing makes be studies. That's that's so cool. I think it's just something he's always liked to just put just like once he started doing it. I think he just liked it a lot more. That's cool. I'm sure to lead to something. Yeah he He tagged me in a clip today on facebook. It was him and i. We work the match. And i saw that in hollywood and one of the referees. I think it was marcus. He was like oh you guys should come on and talking about talk about it. Mike was like Is the only thing i remember. I china and i'm like what are you talking about. I made him like funk in. I look like a million bucks. Kid was a star at night. He added all afternoon. Still gasset Mike here you got to my doesn't like to put himself over mike is. He's like super humble. He like is he. Does that thing where he's like. I don't know if i'm you know. If i can give advice on mike mike you can give better information. You can give better advice than half the fucking guys out there today. That are like yeah. Because because mike's not gonna bullshit you there's no vendetta. There's no like trying to get anything out of anybody by giving them advice he's literally. This is what i thought. Yeah don't ask me for film as niece by nine had a match fucking two years. You won't even remember that time. I'm sure it's like riding a bike all me. I'll get back in there as soon as this whole thing opens up. I'm tying rain. i'll be back one more run ryan twenty twenty two hogs men will ride together for one final time. We'll have the will do a. We'll do the picture of of trips. Take sean for mania. Were all standing there at the top of the ramp map. The shift photoshop. That picture get us all in there and then they'll fire you in all your stuff to you in garbage bags man. Yeah i just. I just saw that. We'll get into that. And that's that's it's absolutely crazy absolutely crazy apparel the guy so that it does what thoughts on trips team out there. And he was saying like they don't worry about it. We took care of him. You know And then i saw a lot of people. Speculating like you dance. It was vincent did it. H runs the get the fuck trump triple agent. Johnny ace literally sent the same tweet with the same wording basically at the same time it was driver which i just tweeted out of couple months ago. I thought it was so funny. I'm like this poor fucking intern. Hey could you put out this tweet for me. Sorry kid due to budget reasons. We gotta let you go. Christ well adam thanks for coming on and doing this yet. Be sure to check out. The last word would big duke on the heisman pose platform on youtube under hogs podcasts. Spotify and apple podcasts. Next week i'm gonna reach out to determine our good friend and fellow. Osman devon sparks come on in Doesn't give me some bullshit. Excuse why we watch the drafts. The nfl drafts and give our Take each pick and hopefully We're not gonna do the whole fucking first round because we'll all be sleep city by. We'll do the first couple. Pistone see where everybody stands but yet thanks for listening. I hit the subscribe button. Hit that thumbs up. Give it a lake and adam. Thanks a lot. And that is the last word remember.

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Going Going Gone From Coors

Fantasy Focus Baseball

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Going Going Gone From Coors

"Either working the fantasy focus baseball beautiful. Monday morning snow-filled february first two thousand twenty one. Hopefully it's not that cold where you are but where we are. It's called it's wendy and a foot of snow that's tristan happy cock-up happy that he doesn't have to move the snow out of his driveway. Until tomorrow i guess not true not true. Why would i do it in the middle of the storm. I'm waiting to the storm is actually over and all the snow is here. And then i'll get rid of it. You'll bologna early. You'd be the lucky folks where i'm at. It's already at a foot. And if i didn't move some of it i wouldn't be getting the snow blower to take care of it afterwards and thankfully thankfully it worked. Snowmageddon is here by the way. Snowmageddon is perfect team for you with that. We we should say happy birthday to kyle. We missed it yesterday. Yesterday was his birthday yesterday. What's birthday yesterday birthday happy. Happy birthday dark. Ask no candles. Why is it darkness. That's the nice. He's a happy kid. We have like like happy. Serenaded by lego batman. Come on you know that it's tradition on this show. I kyle be with us a little bit later. We're having some some problems connecting altogether today. Probably because the internet is not working properly copy researcher producer friend and birthday. What does he like. Twenty now Lots to get through on today's show. We'll talk about this. Nfc draft denier in the middle of. He's been on the clock for like three hours won't make pick but he doesn't need any more pixels not win. Any way also talked about the big news of the past week including the rockies giving up on their season and some other signings and affiliate spending lots of money then now spent the second most money this offseason which makes sense. But a. I'm happy it's not my money all right tristan. Let's start with our. Nato is now a member of the st louis cardinals or will be perhaps by the time that you listen to this. That trait happened over. The weekend was a friday night and lots of hurdles need to be. I don't know what they're doing mean the rockies were basically saying we don't want them anymore. We can't afford them anymore like half of the mlb teams. I'll reserve judgment because for all we know. Everybody just looks at the street and says my goodness so one-sided are not as awesome getting nothing back in the trade anna throwing and fifty million or whatever it is and i say let it play out erin out and hit all that well in twenty twenty. He had a shoulder injury. I had already dropped in my rankings. Now he's leaving course field. I don't want to overrate that. Part of it. Because matt holliday and dj lemay you and others have hit fine after leaving the rockies. I'm actually more worried about the shoulder than i am about him. Leaving chorus field is that is that ridiculous or is that makes sense that makes sense. It is the number one thing that concerned me about the decline from last year. Was i think it was all shoulder. If you look at what happened before the point that started to come up he was hitting other than batting average within a reasonable range of seasons past and the small sample probably influences that we know the chorus field really does bump up batting average. That's the key of course is batting. Averages the category in which it grasp sold so i kinda throw that category. The out of the out of the mix in a short season like this are not fell apart after that point when the show that started becoming an issue. The hard contact numbers came down. And i need to know that. He's one hundred percent in order to get on board as a bounce back for me as a trade other than you know as you mentioned a loose cores estimate that a adjustment. We need to see about the shoulder is it did decide what was a very close tier third baseman. I had four guys. I've been shuffling around in a within about ten spots at one. Another through the entire. Preseason arrow is now at the back of that group but still very good still very much a top forty overall pick. I'm on board. I haven't my outside my top thirty ever so barely. But you're right if i had thoughts before of that tier of denver's ren d-o-n bregman i guess lemay mayhew. He's at the back. Now he's the last guy there. And i wonder so like goldschmidt. The guy that were not ranking all that. Well aruna new teammate. But we expect ultimate to go like thirty ninety two eighty. Isn't that what we expect our not to do so. Why are we still ranking our nado. Thirty five to forty when we have goldschmidt. I mean there's even like he's like seventy five. So i guess my point is why do we still have aruna ranked in the top forty. Should we still have him ranked there. That's a good question doing the goldschmidt comp. I haven't quite looked at that. That closely goldschmidt not gonna maintenance. I mean it's not someone basting anymore. Neither one of them about three hundred anymore. I have concern over the the issue for me would be that. There's three years difference in age. So goldschmidt is more firmly in the declining power stage. And it's not steep. It's just it's just a slight downturn. The numbers backed up that happening. I do think he has the ability to bounce back in terms of overall power but if he does that. I think it will come into the expensive batting average. I i think that that are not always based on track record more likely of the to put up another elite year. But it's a fair point. I agree with that i i. I have an auto like in the thirties. New rankings out today. And i think that it's a it's a. We should not overrate the fact that he's leaving cores. I think we should not underrate the shoulder and the fact that. That's the kind of thing that that just might not get better. Saint louis lineup by the way right now. Could be the middle. Infield at the top tommy edmund. Paul young dan our nado goldschmidt. I love doan carlson though. He did not hit at all as a rookie. And after that the lineups quite weak. I mean dexter fowler who the catcher harrison baiters not. A hitter is a fielder so toddler. Neil might fit in there. So it's a very like middle heavy. It's not a great lineup. Actually i mean should bounce back to some degree. But that's not a great lineup that i thought it was better than that. Yeah and it's possible. They're not done constructing. They might not add another supporting peace. I think how they construct. The top two spots is going to be pretty big for fantasy. You mentioned karlsson. Karlsson's one guy who i think based on the role could be an intriguing value. I like where he's going in in the early drafts. I want to ask you because cores leaving cores is a very big question and this is another case of something. i think people are vastly overrating. What's your perspective on this. I mean do you think are not oh takes a full year to adapt like for example. I mean the first one that comes to mind recently was corey dickerson. He tanked terms of batting average. Twenty left horsfield. Are you worried to that extent. Do you think there's a chance that happens with our not. Because i think others i don't i wrote this up expertly over the weekend. I think your points are valid. It takes some time for of course fueled hitter when he leaves to adjust. But i think that's the way. I look at it as he has a whole off season to adjust the starting over as a cardinal and he just a good hitter. He's not going to do the things they're going to have the splits that he had in st louis in colorado people don't realize when you're a chorus field hitter yes. Your whole numbers are unbelievable. But you can't adapt in your in season road games when you leave for a series city field it. It just doesn't work and we see every year with these guys now. Some of these guys put up decent road. Numbers helped news to holiday was fine. It wasn't an awful player in road games but it wasn't slugging five fifty. I think you start over now. And i look at him as a guy who tops out at like two eighty to ninety with thirty home runs if healthy so to me. I think having the off season and we don't even know how long is still and i'm gonna turn out to pick on baseball today even though there's a million things that are wrong but the fact is i think the off-season solves that issue. I think him starting this season in saint louis Is good and midseason trade. Would've been a whole lot worse but checkout tristan's article audience fantasy because it's it outlines. Why we overwork. Why are we overrate the big picture of colorado rockies hitter but people view it wrong. They don't understand what it is about of course field hitter. That's the problem. It's the problem is adapting to the road games. But your questions out but this is no longer a third round. Pick a second or third round pick four pick. No i think he could be third round pick. I don't think you need to do it. What i'm saying really is that if if he drops to the point where he's going. Fiftieth drafted think. There is very realistically. He doesn't some cases. I think tremendous bargain. I agree with that point. Let's look at what's left behind. That's fun So trevor story is still a rocky and i have a chance to take story in a dynasty league later this week. He's one of the few monster players that's available in that draft. And i don't care who hears this. I'm not going to do it. Because i think he's leaving. Colorado and by the way that can be a good thing like if he starts this season as the fulltime shortstop on another place like because the money. But i mean if trevor story gets traded soon that might be okay for his value. He's a healthier our nado steals basis. He wouldn't be a first round pick. But i don't want to draft story in a dynasty format assuming he's iraqi for more than another week. So is that fair to reevaluate trevor story. Based on the fact. I didn't realize all the stuff that was going on with colorado's franchise to be honest with you until this all went down. I knew some of it. But i didn't. I didn't know the extent of it now. Trevor stories is set to be a free agent. After the twenty twenty one season he might be like. Get me out of here now. I'm not signing extension. How do you have you. Trevor story after this are not attract any loses another guy in the lineup. Yeah and i. let's see here okay. So i don't know whether the intent here was to free up the money to resign. Trevor story that is a possibility. But i agree with you that there's a realistic chance that the rockies are going to make this decision that they can't afford him either and be gone in a year so he might end up being traded. So i see your your concern about him being dealt at. I do think he might have a little bit more difficulty adjusting somewhere else. Initially i don't know how long that will take because he struggles with contact and batting average in the first place. But you're right. Story is another guy who is in the first round for fantasy and yes. We're assuming he's iraqi for the full year when doing that because of how good. He is in terms of stealing basis. I don't think people understand it. He is the only hitter only hitter. Who's finished in the top twenty in the player in each of the past three years and the reason for that is he's also an pretty sure. I have the threshold number here right. He's the only player has been in the top twenty stolen bases in each of the past three years. A belief sell this up and the stolen base. Metrics were up there consistently year over year as supporting that. High play raiders status twenty seven twenty three and fifteen and the the speed grades do support the ability to put up another twenty twenty-five steel season. And i like. He goes to another team if he hit two thirty five while struggling. Don't you think he still has. The ability had twenty five home. Runs steal you twenty five aces mighty run more on the base pats of course but i don't want to to fifty on my team either. What can you be a first round. Pick doing there to the point about my threshold thing here. I i wrote an initial draft of. They said i put my notes. And then i unfortunately over wrote the file during data crash. The but i'm pretty sure it was that he's the maybe it's he's the one now. He can't be the one shortstop it was he top twenty speed metric over the past three years and he's the only guy who hasn't that's great information and information i did not know and that's why you're on the show your show i mean i'm just here to host and you know how that draft come on man. You are mine so the rockies now look this way rahmael tabby could lead off story. Charlie blackmon ryan mcmahon. Who has pop. Who who do you like because of the no trade. My first thought was brennan. Rogers who i ended up taking in the nfc draft Obviously garrett hamson should be good for playing time now but that's no lock mcmahon who plays third it could be mcmahon. It could be brendan rodgers. It could be hamson who gains value because of this. I mean my snap. Judgment is mcmahon plays third base. Just because he's the most natural option. They're just days could. Could you know perhaps get some time there. I i would say hamson is more likely to get the benefit here. But i hesitate to do it because we all tend to overeat and i. I'm as responsible as anybody for that. We tend to overrate garrett hanson. They do look at me like as a utility type and the contact has been a major problem with over the past year. I i mean. I think they probably would prefer. Rogers grabs job if he's healthy enough he's hitting during spring training. I hope i would imagine. They hope he takes that job at second base and mcmahon's at third every day right and for the spot. I'm trying to see where the spot is. Where treat happened friday night. So this is a draft Explain the nfc draft. There were doing. It's it's fifteen teams And some great expert great fantasy analyst. Paul steve gardner klay laying jeff zimmerman. What it lasts dirk van. Riper todd. Zola you and me and it's fifty rounds but you have a four hour clock to make your pick an online so when our trade happened. I actually had a pit coming up and i decided not to use it on. Ryan mcmahon who. I thought that didn't really change is valuable that she was playing every day. Anyway i thought about garrett hamson i thought about brennan raja's but i thought it was a little bit too early and then i still got brenner. Rogers like five rounds later. Your thoughts on nat like overreacting to this base. Yeah so let. Let's find the outline of this draft fifteen team. Fb style but it is also a draft and hold and for those unfamiliar with this style of play. You draft the team and that's it you can set lineups each week and nfc allows you to alter your hitting portion the lineup. Not you're pitching mid week. Which would be going into friday's games for the weekend series so you can adjust lineups heading twice a week pitching once on a weekly basis. But that's it. Those are your players when you're done that's what you got for the year which means that playing time and locking enrolls is kind of important so you mentioned mcmahon knowing that he's gonna play. I agree. I don't think this changes value all that much. But i'll tell you this brennan. Rogers did end up taking. I think that was around later. Wasn't always a lot around later. That's why i liked it. It wasn't just one round later. I mean i. I'm trying to find. I wanna make sure i get are here. It is i took him around twenty one. Yup which is pretty late mcmahon was sent you. I took chris sale. You took christian vieri in the round. That ryan mcmahon when he went in the seventeenth round which is pretty good value. I was looking at them at that. Pick yeah i was looking at them but i just i didn't. I don't know i decided brennan. Rogers died. I decided i wanted somebody else. That spot a district is kind of strange. Like you have the fifth pick and i had the six pick overall and then it's snakes so we each you know. Destroy each other every other round so when you went on the clock and trout and turner trai turner. Were still available. I texted you. And i said please please. Don't take trout. But i looked at my rankings that i have headed trial so i decided that i was gonna change my rankings at that point so you did take trae turnover mike track. Could you explain that why did that. Yeah i i really struggled with that one You know. I will one of the biggest bike trout. Backers and fantasy that you can find. I went trade turner here. Because i fear being stuck in the cold at the middle infield spots and in terms of stolen bases and i decided that i would be more comfortable trying to fill power auto week in week out matchup spaces in the later rounds and it was as simple as that i think trai turner is just as good as as my chinese the top of that next year there. You know we'll see if it pans out. I'm a little bit disappointed with what i got in round two. I'll be honest with you. If i'd known he'd be air. I might have gone trout in the first round. Took manny machado around to the pick. Afro took max scherzer an at about vermont. Ac- went to pick after you took machado which is interesting. It's early from from modesty but then again stolen bases. It's hard to get them in a league. Like this and usable stolen bases on base is not a category some honesty as value. That that way. So you're picking you middle infield early. Trai turner manny machado ozzy. Albee's nothing wrong with that three. You went josh hader around four. And you've been saying all along that you know you want one of the top saves guys. I've actually putting saves so that's a very different style. You and i are playing here. I feel like in a fifteen team lead. You can't punsalan get away with it and you took hater around four four like some really good players. Yeah i would lean more towards you can't fill saves later in a league like this because you have no option for fab. So you can't chase saves. During the season they must come from the roster. You drafted and i am finding especially in the stage that we're at now that the perspective closers or the next in lines are being aggressively drafted. You could go that route. I've taken a couple of myself. But i i wanted to get you. I wanted to go very clear looking to is. I'm going to go with a mix and match pitching staff. I decided when. I didn't get an ace after all those. When you mentioned you took max scherzer. I decided i'm going to have to just mix and match. I've never had a problem in this league. Finding pitching lineup. For a week. I have on offense. See i everything you just said about relief pitching. I feel the exact opposite way. If i can get utah. Tanna rainy in like round thirty. Well i'd much rather do that. Take brad handed around ten or wherever he went. I mean i think they're going to get the same amount of say. I'll take some shots. I mean nobody. Wanted stephan. Christ in of arizona got him around twenty so he might end up with as many saves as guys. It went ten rounds earlier. You took nelson lament again. Basically you're saying all right. I'm in your has what you're saying. So you limit. And with the next pick i took lance lynn and then when stephen strasburg that makes no sense interesting how like i'll defend lameta my question about this a lot. I recognize the risk. We do not know enough about him right now. So i must rank and based on my confidence that he will give you a decent number of starts but i need high impact innings. And that's all it is on the pitching side from my strategy here is based on. I must maximize my lineups each week. So you took salvador perez in round six which is really pick ninety and forty picks later guy yes monte grondahl. I like my side of that to wait. You know forty picks. Actually it's like seventy picks later that works for me. Yep i'm not. I got just as good a catcher and and we got some. I took david price. Joe muss grove. We consecutive picks. That's really interesting to me like my my staff is older. It's sure lynn grinky price. And then i took some kids later. Pearson jameson tone. But i took some older pitchers early on and you've got lament and paddock and musk grove. And then you took kluber fit that he would have fit better my team but is there. There's there's obviously more risk taking thirty. Something pitchers like i am. But i also felt like they were undervalued in this strap passing on these older pitchers because they assume they're going to get hurt. Lansley doesn't get hurt. That cranky doesn't get hurt. Dave wasn't hurt. Landing was one. I gave a very serious look at when i took lament. That would have been my alternate pick there now. I gotta note here because he brought this up. We're picking back to back. You are killing me in the even rounds yordan alvarez alvarez. I'm all all day on him. In round six of fifteen draft and then for for. I think it was four in a row. You took didi gregorious. Laid to rest jameson. Mitch haniger all four those those crush me. That was exactly what. I was taking with the next pick. I love where we're going with the values on hannigan tone lot of upside. You didn't spend very much in order to get them layered. Taveras would have given me the balance. That i'm looking for my offense. That was another good pick. The more i look at him the more i think there's there's good value. Here's a fourteenth rounder and didi gregorius. Who just signed. I mean gregorious. By the way there's a misconception about eighty gregorious we all think of him as a big poll power swing and miss kind of guy. now he's a contact guy doesn't strike out and it's pretty safe power and now he's going back to philadelphia and by the way liotta. There's i was trying to think of guys who could steal thirty bases this year. After like the top hundred picks he was the only guy on my list like yes. They hit better. He's young. you didn't hit very well in his rookie season but he can still basis so hard enough of that. let's get to what the phillies did were regardless. His back and jt real muto is back and they basically bring back the exact same lineup that they had last season and it was a it was a good lineup. They scored a lot of runs and grigory player. That's a twenty five homers seventy five shortstop who i think is a little underrated in-draughts general in espn's rankings. I mean he's not a top player but he should be going in like around fifteen and realmuto top catcher and he goes back to a place. He's comfortable it's well. He'll hit high in the lineup. Your thoughts on what. The phillies did all right. So after my thoughts. I want your take on the earliest. You'd go for jt remote to on a standard espn league. I i looked realmuto very closely before this one and i see a lot of positive hard contact metrics that make him very attractive compared to the rest of the field. So you know. I'm still still all in is a A as first of all the number one the catcher but second of all a guy who probably should be thought about once you get to the fiftieth picking your standard. espn draft. Deedee was less wild about after. I looked closely at him. I like the fact that the contact ability raises his floors good. I think he's a solid. Know what you're going to get non exciting mid round as you mentioned around fifteen. I think it was through the number. I think that's about right like you're getting because you didn't spend big at the position but he's perfectly adequate after we get past those early stages i mean. There's nothing wrong with boring picks and around fifteen. He's boring shortstop. Pick who is safe for numbers. And i think that's okay. Not every pick has to be a young guy with upside. And like if you're gonna take joe adele in the middle rounds. Well i can't even tell you is going to get three hundred as this year. But didi gregorius played every game. Twenty twenty and it's pretty safe power about fifth or sixth and a good lineup implant iran. So i like it. I think it's good. We'll move so. I m rant eighty so a little bit after you do the early because it's one catcher region where is the earliest you at possibly take him in and everything is. I just took two catches before anybody else in the nfc. I don't know if you notice that. And that's not my style but in a two catcher fifty round league. Where i don't want to mess around i took two catches that i'm not gonna play and i know we're going to hit for power. I took down nola real move to the earliest. I don't know. I guess it depends on the league but round six or seven. I suppose but i don't really want to. I mean look hey. Didn't play the final two weeks of either the last two seasons and the reason why is because he got hurt catchers get hurt when you draft a catcher. This is the thing. I didn't mention on the last show. Look gore's could play one hundred and fifty five hundred sixty games. This season real multiple. Can't that's part of the reason why when you take a catcher and around six or seven the difference in taking somebody else in around six or seven like is you know. I don't know. I mean you're now is a bad example but like if you can let me find a guy who makes sense here so i don't i don't make it up. Just throw the rally europe's jank. I know what you're saying. It's somebody who claim everything. Jeff mcneil might play one hundred fifty five games this season. All right. i'm not saying i would take jeff. Jeff mcneil over real muto but the fact is you're going to get more pa. He's more runs scored a lot of stuff. I i love real muto. I love fantasy. Because i don't think he's a ton better than every other catcher. But i think it's too early. I get really good players. In that round. And i wouldn't do it real motorway. We'll win round three of this of this draft which may be fine but it's a lot earlier than any other catcher. Yeah i thought about occurs. When he was there. I was looking squarely at rail. This way real motor went before whitmer field in this draft. I don't think i could ever do that. I took murphy two picks later. I know i'm getting stolen bases. I think he could have fifteen to twenty home. Runs scored tunnel runs hit for average second base. That's a really good player real motives to but was that you can't do. I will take that realmuto pick over your field in this style draft and we should point out because it's a good way to tie this into the espn leagues. This is where the league settings absolutely matter. I will tell you. I've been there so many times in this league. Where i've run out of literally run out of catchers could start and then you were leaving a blank space which yes a blank space is sometimes smart catcher. But you're giving up those twenty five thirty for the season runs. Rbi you're going to get at the worst remote turn thirty next month. kyle notes. He's one of six. Nfl players this slug for eighty in each of the past three seasons which is great free. Mukunu story harper and soto. But he's starting thirty. And he's a catcher and i just can't be blind to that and look five year deal for jt realmuto. I love the next couple of years and then philly might have problem when he's thirty four and thirty five but that's eight fourteen. You're going to be rooting for that. D. atrial i already have a d. h. fourteen. I mean like hoskins can't play. I found a good first baseman. Alec bom has had decent third base rank ratings actually as a rookie. But i think we all know. He's not a good third baseman so i the phillies goran's and they're gonna give up runs other players. Who signed since our last show. Let's get to these guys any. Rosario jack petersen two guys who don't hit left he's all that well. I ended up with jace peterson in his thirty two in his fifty round draft. But i got him. A hundred picks after kyle schwartz and took schwarzer that seems like value to me because they had the exact same numbers. Thirty home runs. Low batting average. Can't hit lefties petersen's a cub now about a fifth or sixth. Every day maybe even higher you know in a platoon role but maybe they don't platoon them. I kind of hope they put them in a way. But that's huge value isn't it. it's huge value. You also have the advantage of proceeding through this draft knowing what the role was. And it's a pretty good land. Atlantic project peterson. He will take the calls for a role. And i think that's going. Mean the occasional games against lefties and very likely fits as a one to hitter for them if not clearly their leadoff man. So that's a plus. I don't think they're going to go. The kris bryant. Frankly but yeah. I'm probably looking at someone takes warmer there. If we know the roles of the two players at the time loop on twitter asks schwarzer or jock and redraft. You take over over peterson but if an espn league schwab goes around. Ten and peterson goes around. Twenty that's a pretty good value for peterson and i would argue on shore board. It's not good value. But it's where he deserves to go. Rush sounds fair to me. I'll i'll note that. I did take eddie. Rosario in this draft and at the time his role was not known he was a ninth round. Pick and i'll tell you to me. That's a steal of evalu- i gotta understand. This is a guy who was sixtieth overall. He was the one thousand nine outfielder. I don't know why. Well i know why minnesota let him go. I i don't get it okay. Whatever finances but landing cleveland. I think it's a pretty good place shorter for one thing. Just simply the short of wall in right field is a big plus for him. Absolutely i think any rosario is good. I don't call him a definite top hundred player anymore. But i do think he's round where you take over and right now cleveland going to that team. He was of buried in a deep minnesota lineup. Cleveland's lineup is not deep. So i assume cesar hernandez leads off cleveland. And he's kind of underrated in his own right and then jose ramirez an and it could be resile hitting third in between ramirez and friend mill. Who's a forty homer threat for. Sure so to me gets a bump actually after this assigning because he was batting six seven eight for the twins and now he's betting two three four for cleveland. So the cleveland baseball team. So i say good for him. And he's a limited player but to seventy with thirty home runs. That's pretty good. I actually more than i don't think he's limited. I think you're you're building a foundation for him. Being really good value. I think resolve leans towards being in the top one hundred. I agree with you that it's not a slam dunk. But i think there's a there's a real possibility he he digs deeply into that top hundred. You haven't ranked fifty nine so obviously he's in your top. He's in my top hundred. I don't want to miss miss. Say what i'm saying is in my top hundred. I don't think he's a tremendous value at the seventieth. Pick or a fifty nine where you have them. i think i'd rather have schwarzer. Thirty forty picks later than because that's kind of people judge them. But i see what you're saying. Rosario never hits twenty. Like john peterson either. So or matt olsen just did. There's a lot of players who who might not forever just you're not the hitters that we have careful of that we all ranked pretty well. Also the but yeah. They increasing shifting influences. These guys poorly too absolutely. That's only matters are who else signed over the past week that we need to deal with. Andrew symonds is now twin Which is interesting not a good hitter. Not a guy you have to take an fantasy league. But what does that mean for a water escobar's no not thinking Or polanco because they were team as to think of the same That's interesting now. He's gonna play second. And then louis arise is like a all over the field guy. We rise now probably doesn't even get four hundred. Pa's which is bad. Because i think he could three fifty but you know who knows arise could arise is gonna find his time in in several different roles. I actually think this this move is potentially catastrophic news for polanco does not that special a player. I'll tell you he's. He's not all that much better than what simmons was. Maybe two years ago where he gets contributes a little. You know double digit pop double digit stolen bases but most of it is driven by the role and the role is now in question. I mean maybe bounces back after the two ankles surgeries i. I don't know but there's a line drive guy without blazing speed. What do you do with marcus semi fantasy leagues in toronto. Now he's gonna add second base eligibility we presume boba shed at the top of the lineup semi quebec second. I mean or you know or bijl could lead off. We don't really know toronto's lineup right now. That's a big deal in how i look at markets semi because if he's batting six seven eight one them but man you. There's a lot of different permutations of this lineup on russia resource on they have springer one semi into bouchette. Three then tasker in vlad. And bijou six. Well that's interesting like joe's a clear on bass guy maybe the best on the team. And he's betting six so where this lineup ends up. And also he's like the only lefty hitter guaranteed the play. You got springer semi bishop tasker. All ryan on vlad. So i wanna see their lineup before making but ever drafting this week. You have to make a decision semi in and bijou and beset. Semi-in can semi as a twenty five home guy with ten steals if you get bounces back a little bit but that was a great year two semi and went in the tenth round in this draft. So we're looking at Probably the hundred hundred and thirty second or so. Pick one hundred thirty third. That to me is very good value when he sliding outside the top hundred. I think semi and is closer to the player. We saw two years ago than the one last year did deal with some injuries and the only big note i had was he simply could not square out the ball last year. Not only contact or elite hard contact kind of guy but he couldn't square the ball up. And i have to think some of that was due to injury. I like the supporting cast. But you're right the lineup. Where he slots in the lineup is gonna play a big part and by the way like we talked a lot about our earlier. We knew he was hurt. Worth seventy was heard and we just didn't know it you bounces back. And he's a great. You know like yeah. He was definitely hurt. He had so he had a side injury. That wasn't full. Oblique always talk about the oblique issues. Were they go. On the i l. and they missed three weeks. He didn't do that but it was mentioned at the time when it came up and it was treated like it was minor that that was one that had been nagging for him and i think it was even previously to twenty twenty so to me. I think that played a bigger part. Let's bring in our buddy now the birthday. Boy kyle soppy. Now are awesome researcher in producer. He's got trivia forests and some hash browns. Let's see if the connection works if not. I'll read them kyle. What he you got fingers crossed here. We'll start with some trivia. You guys know the forty forty club for hitters. I wanted for pitcher since twenty eighteen. Just two pitchers have forty quality starts and they have not allowed at least forty home runs. Who are since what year. I caught the last three years. It's two thousand eighteen three seasons. And kyle's not coming in so well so we're going to cut him off now and i'll read the hash browns for today's show and will do the trivia so the trivia question trista was and again because of the weather right. Now we're having some connection issues but it seems like trista and i are connecting okay. Kyle's the one connecticut avenue the issue Since two thousand eighteen just two pitchers have at least forty quality starts and not allowed forty home runs. One is easy the other. I guess is not And we'll do that after the hash. Browns i i think i know the easy one. He just wanna a bunch of cy youngs but the other one. I don't know because i know to ground doesn't get home runs We got some hash. Browns sierra let's see if we can answer them for people And you can submit your hash brown before each show on twitter. Kyle usually sends out a tweet. I think his twitter handle is at kyle soppe and if you put the hashtag in which the hashtag for this tristan the oh six. Oh one oh. Mlb just owed a six zero one mlb tweet that kyle pilots kayla's at kyle soppy. Espn that's right. I'm carabello espn. Eric carb eric and tristan is sultan of stat for some reason And it's probably well done sir. No i mean that's that's clever for something. I think that it's a good. It's a good job outta you. Has brown jake says keeper league all the same price who you keep in cory seager clayton kershaw. Wander franco of tampa bay. We have a big difference in where we rank wander franco tristan in Redraft leagues believe. You didn't have him anywhere close to anything. Yeah you don't have them rank your top three hundred and i like one fifty can can. I justify that. I had. I had no. You had them in that range earlier on in the off season and in more recent updates. As i believe he's not going to be there for all one sixty two. I have moved down. But if you believe he's going to be the starting shortstop and maybe the talk about the willie adamas possibility of trade to cincinnati. Cincinnati is desperate for shortstop if they clear shortstop maybe that means broncos there and i put them right back at one fifty. I think this guy is ready to debut in the major leagues. And i think tampa bay calls him up in may or june and puts them at third base. That's what i think. Now one fifty. Though i mean how can you do. You think he's really going to give you a one fifty performance. I think he's really really good. And i think in an espn league okay. Remember this is. I'm doing my rankings. An espn league. Where i know the free agency will be buoyant with possibilities. So i'm willing to take that literally. Yeah i probably should move him down to two hundred. But i think this is generational talent. I do. i think power speed average. Everything so yeah. I'm willing to take them a little bit earlier. I mean who. Am i taking you around fifteen of an espn draft. I mean i have to look at who it is. That's basically where i'm at. I'm going gonna throw a challenge. My challenge would be based on the espn structure. I'd like to see anybody who took wander franco. In the first two hundred picks of their draft and was able to keep him on their roster intil his debut. And i mean. Don't do that and show me a twelfth place to well. We attend place team. Don't show me a last place team. That did it because you force them on your bench. Three bench spots I see your point. I have more disciplined in that. If i take him i would wait. But i'm looking at the pictures that are going in your round sixteen. Clint frazier corey kluber ca bryan hayes. Jeans to gura. They're not special. I mean some of them have upside to some degree but like andrew mccutchen 162. What i take. Franko room yeah. I'd rather wait two months now. I could be wrong. It hasn't come up till september. But i i want to be aggressive here. Depends on the league okay. I might do something different in a deeper league or to catcher league or league with less bench spots. But you know. I and again when i do. My rank is say they'll be posted today. Maybe i'll have more like pick two hundred. I think that makes more sense than pick one fifty. But i look at the the the guys that are going these range. I'm like is is dylan. Carsl carlson any safer there wander. Frankly should play more. He's a playwright away. He's not safe for for numbers. Wonder franco and four months. Could do what. Dylan carlson is going to do in five months. So that's why. I rank them where i do. And you have carson wentz sixteen. So that's that's me justifying it. But i'm gonna move front. Carter like one eighty to two hundred range. Let's answer the question for this gentleman. It's gotta be cory seager. And it keep relief clayton. Kershaw has older. Of course eager had a great twenty twenty. He's healthy again after the tommy john surgery. Top shortstops doesn't run but a four categories shortstop. So i think segers the obvious keeper. Here don't you i. I'll break the role of asking a question to answer a question and that is that what is said price. I think is paramount to this. Answer if we're talking about we're talking about three one dollars players. There is real appeal in knowing you could lock in frisco for the entirety of his career at a reasonable price. If it's three players at thirty dollars i am taking seager and seager and seager and also seager and who are the other guys. Are you taking seger. It's not even close at at that level another way. I don't want to insinuate clayton kershaw as near the end of his run. Because i'm probably going to get him in a deeply later this week but i still think he's got three good years and he looked great in twenty twenty and it was there and i keep keep getting him in a lot of leagues because people want to pass on him and i think that's a mistake but to answer jake's question i would take core seager. Luke writes what is dom smith long term outlook. At some point this off season. I had dom smith ranked ahead of peter lonzo. I've since changed that. Because i'm not sure there's going to be the national league and dom smith may not play as much but if they announced tomorrow and please do that. The ages universal. I if peed alonzo's going pick forty and donna's miss going at one hundred. That's just ridiculous. Because i think they're just as good at. I think. I think pete alonso would hit more home runs dom smith give you forty extra points a batting average. I love dom smith i think. Donald smith in twenty twenty one. Assuming there's a d. h. And they play him in alonzo d. h. last first base. I think that's to eighty with thirty home runs. And pete alonso about fifty with forty home runs to the better value to me. You could easily the better value in whether going addresses clearly dom smith but you can make a case with donald smith. Just over alonzo anyway which. I don't hear anybody else. Making the case but i am a crazy crazy at all and i think it is a case you can make and i will say that i hate ranking dominic smith and i'll be a big bet jerk and say that i wish we knew what the d. h. situation would be because with the h. Dominic smith is easiest. Sixty one overall rank for me and if there's no d. h. Is highly likely a one. Forty one rank for me and i'm splitting the difference at one to one. Don't feel very good about it. I i think they'll figure this out. I haven't ranked in my top hundred gonna have a nice. I'm just going to be honest with you. I don't think we'll have a d. h. I think it's coming in the next. Cpa and what stinks is. I really hope that doesn't bump dominic smith's career progression off track. I really hope that doesn't happen in. I'm a little bit worried about it. He's an excellent hitter. he's an excellent hitter. he's a better hitter than lonzo. Just doesn't have nobody has as much power lines massive power hitter but but you're absolutely right about the comparative values here between those two. I've looked deeply into these players and it's driving me up the wall that i don't see a path to smith playing. I hate going with the no path to playing time. But it's true. Be writes in anything to miguel cabrera showing some pop late last season. Five home runs and a seventy four oh. Pm since september the opium doesn't excite me but a five home runs in a month for miguel. Cabrera could be interesting. There was a lot of talk about him going into the twenty twenty season. He look grady loss weight. Best shape of his life We ignored it. All and then he'd had another average season. I can't make a case to draft. Miguel cabrera in espn standard. I don't think you can either let me see where you have him. Rank no you am not we all remember we have forty. We have fifty first baseman ranks. So cabrera is able. He's t h only that that for him as a bad. That's even worse. Yup and i was on that bandwagon as oh nobody wants. Miguel cabrera okay. I'll happily take him at the end of my draft. I did that in. A few places was pleased enough with it was nothing eye-popping but it was perfectly solid. You'll this is really strange. So i just. He was one of the more recent ones research. Seventh best average exit velocity last year. Seven best in the majors and he was eighteen best in terms of hard contact. So why aren't you believing. He's helping our thirty eight and it was two fifty and ten home runs. I mean are you. Are you going to get that kind of home. Production over one six do. Let's look i looking at your d. h. rankings. Which at the top is all wrong. But at the bottom. You've got outside your top three hundred cabrera head of edwin encarnacion and i would say if edwin signs you'd have to take him over. Miguel cabrera but cabrera had better exit velocity of everything twenty twenty edwin. Look done. You know he looked done. Yeah i can't make a case. The rank cabrera my top. Three hundred. the you have ahead of him. Or chris davis to seventy willie. Calhoun two hundred six. I agree with all that yeah. We're wasting time here. Cabrera doesn't belong in ankara. Sure it's gonna find a regular role that's one of the reasons he's rank support for this show. Nelson cruz could be back on the twins and to me. Nelson cruz would be the number one. The h. you're alvarez's to and jd. Martinez is three right. Now you've got martinez. I crew second alvis third. Which based on age makes no sense production sense. I will add because this is going to happen in a labor where we do have the ability to stock up your bench during the The what would you call declare. Kosh what is the salary cap system here for labor. There are a lot of. It's like i think it was three years ago and we will. We will find that not enough teams have the space to roster the player so cabrera could be a value in that specific spot. I think there will be places you want to have them. I'm not excited from abroad standpoint. And that's a very valid point. You're making their. Because i took in this. Nfc draft jordan alvarez. You saw when. I did it that lock taking jd martinez essentially. I could've taken it as a bench spot. Why would you do that. So i can't take like oakland. Chris davis now. Because it makes no sense but you know by taking out raise pick hundred net which is a huge value now. I can't take another d. H. only guy All right let's get to a couple more questions than the end this. Because it's i don't want to do what we did last week. Which was a very long show. Alex rights what is your favorite tiebreaker. And ahead league. He lost his league because regular season record was the default but he feels that advantage already accounted for in the seeding favourite tiebreaker. In a head-to-head league. Where would you say to that lead winner. I'm trying to think if i've had one where we needed a tiebreaker. Have i have. I had one. That was decided by a tiebreaker. Last year benchmark bench spots total spots benji. Total the total points by your bench player. Now if it's an espn standard and it's very difficult to do it. Oh that's very popular. I don't like a tiebreaker. Should be well head to what he's complaint. Hey hey you're you're spitting back that what he just said he doesn't like you see you can't just get the higher seed. You can't do that. that's no well. The higher seed should have something should win something he well then head to head should be between de this team and the other teams should be the other thing. I mean like. It'd be points scored you're right. I guess that's the kind of foreign the seating. But i i don't like bench anything at all because i use my bench very differently in all these leagues and that's fair. I wonder franco in a league and doesn't play until june. That's not going to accumulate bench points. Saddam like that no totally fair and you know because the way that structure it that i i might be going with an entire bench relief pitchers which could put me at a disadvantage because i like to mix and match in the spn league so yeah it matters you have on your bench. I can't think of another logical choice though of the higher seed situation and my take to that is if you work that hard to get that higher seat during the regular season and you guys ended up tied in the playoffs. That's just tough luck. In the regular season sending your tweets. We're going to next year will be next week unless i don't even know how many signings could happen this week. I guess trades could could could make us do another show this week like trevor story gets traded to somebody but you know. We talked to answer the just watch. I just hope we're talking about like we have clarity. Let's put it that way. I want clarity soon. Because i've got draft similar. We're in the middle of this draft here. I've got another draft coming up on sunday. Which is an important one and the guy in that leak. It got into the league listens to this show and it kind of knows what i'm thinking and a couple of different spots So that's important and Let's ask the trivia question. We can't kyle back right now but it was since two thousand eighteen. Just two pitchers have at least forty quality starts at not allowed to forty home runs. One is easy by the way it's really hard to find. Quality starts like it's not on every website by the way like. I'm looking forward right now not to cheat. Just figure it out like it's not even like easily accessible. I guess nobody cares about quality starts. I'm trying to find on baseball. Reference announce it. It's ertz to dig on a couple of pages you have to dig. Is not in the normal stats. I assume that. Jacob degrom is one of these scott scott. I guess you can text me and ten. But let's figure out the other so that probably the easy one because he's winning the cy youngs and we know he suppresses homerun so basically. You're trying to think of pitchers here who suppress home runs. There'd be the way that i would look at it right. We don't we know if choosing the guys it's not cold because of kohl's issues with the home run with the home s year right so i think two grams a logical guests. The question is who is the less likely the next guy. Think of mr grumbling. Aaron nola he gave up home runs two seasons ago. I don't think he's the answer and like now that we're guessing. Let me look up. And see if i don't know the answer. A bunch of home runs two seasons ago. Gave like thirty didn't he. Can i can tell you the answer in a second year. If we i want to go off the board year like i'm trying to think of players direct to grandma's the obvious the graham is obviously not texting me back there so this is over the last three seasons or two and a half you know basically four seasons who suppresses home runs i was i was so close like i didn't give up home runs last season right like like dallas. Kyko didn't last year or corbin burns didn't go up last year. I would tell you. I didn't get it but you might get it. I would never get this. It's not a rocky jeter you. You're really close. Would you say nola wheeler dealer. Zack wheeler i know it didn't go pump. You know what the answer. It is a very interesting point here because he changed what he did in twenty twenty for the phillies and that made him a less valuable fantasy option because as k. rate plummeted. So what are we expect. He called his text me. So the answer is zack wheeler. I guess he did that for me. What do we expect that as accurately in two thousand twenty one will. You have a suppress k. Rate but be more of a ground ball game doesn't go home runs because that would make him. I rank him really well assuming that his k. bounces back to some degree and i probably rank and better than you do. I don't wanna. I don't wanna think it's because i'm a phillies fan. I don't think it is a while only see where you huila. Thirty two among starting pitchers. I haven't like twenty four. So what is it about wheel. You're assuming that is not going to be high again. I'm just yeah. I'm doing a little bit of splitting the difference. There and maybe i should put them ahead of. Because you know my. We talked a little bit surprised. Because you've seen a lot of bad things about cranky. Why wouldn't you learn how greg. Yeah it's a good point. I don't think i've ever struggled so much with the the you know. Little details rankings. Than i have this year in wheeler's case it was a weird year. You mentioned the strikeout rate. the other is. He went forcing fastball. Which is a little more strikeout oriented. I think i look at a guy like this is going ground ball more pitch to contact. I think oh yeah. He went sinker heavy. No he didn't. He threw a four seamer almost sixty percent of the time. So so what the heck. I don't know he pitched really. Well was his second best. Whip of his career era with a three. It's just that eighteen percent. K percentage man. That's really down for twenty nineteen. We assume this was a guy could flirt with two hundred strikeouts. He can't do it pitching like this but he was really effective so as a phillies fan. I wanted to be effective. I don't care about the k. rate but as knowing the phillies defense. Maybe i do art of it. I'm just i. What i've noticed is that i can't i can't give him a projection. That's anywhere near two hundred strikeouts. And that's all it is if it's one hundred and fifty strikeouts and he's not a top thirty starting pitcher unless zero to fifty. You've got people out that this quality starting homerun combination makes me think a little bit about the consistency. And perhaps i should push him. Maybe i should come up a couple of spots. Yeah i think you should and not because my philly's fan or not. Because i have a couple of pitchers you have ranked ahead of them like i. I don't have lozada fifth among starting pitchers. I'm quite certain that. I radio max. Three twenty eight. I thought you would have. Max read a little bit better. How can i deny harry pitcher pure. Yeah he shouldn't even be better of then cranky. Why why have you read higher. Yeah i'm surprised you don't i thought it was a top twenty borderline guy and don't have that way. So that's that's we have a lot of interesting differences on our rankings. What that's for a future show when we don't have a lot of other things to discuss We're gonna wind this down and as always thank you so much for listening to fantasy focus baseball. I hope we passed the audition. Kospi does a great job researching producing old people. Know what that net Oh daniel murphy retired. Dustin pedroia retired a lot of great memories from fantasy aspect from those two guys. Honestly i mean daniel murphy. Had some nice years underrated player second base. I'll never forget interviewing daniel murphy at the all star game one year and saying to him. I was very honest when i asked these players questions. And some of them didn't like that back in the day. When i was asking players questions and i said how you stealing basis you know and murphy lifted his shirt to show me like his. It was like he had a belly on him. And he's like man i. I take my opportunities. I'm not fast. I'm like how you doing that. Like he was really fun to talk to is a good guy. Well some other stuff. But the point is like i remember asking him that question. Like why are there was a year remember. There was a year where he was stealing. Yeah he's still like twenty one year. Like how are you doing that because you're not fast and you're not like you know anyway anyway. Thank you for a nice career daniel. Thanks dustin pedroia in you know my on that since since mr all. You're get all fame ballot. That has mr dustin pedroia his name. And i'm pretty sure of that yes. I don't think i could vote for roy utley joya. I do get a hall of fame ballot and a few years. Thank god. I didn't have one this year. And what a mess. And they've got some work to do to figure all that stuff out off free though i i don't think is you know what i go on. Gut some degree all the more. yes though. That's the reason. I asked the to me said painting. I feel like patrols career was a little longer and a little better even than than when i look at the numbers. In retrospect and i look at here on the baseball reference card and i say gosh. It wasn't as long as i would have liked it to be. That's a a heated. He didn't do for a long enough time and people said about outlive. But i think ali we get into repertory i feel like portray as a hall of famer don mattingley. I mean now you know maybe. He was better at the peak. Perhaps but you'll like one of those man. I wish those injuries hadn't gotten in his way. Do you remember back in two thousand six when i was thinking of drafting pedroia and assembly. And you told me not to. Yeah i remember who you told me to draft. I know who i took to take instead. Oh man he was listening to a you know if he could have had a career. That's a yeah mike. Flynn life ended shortly for nick and heart but at the time we thought he was going to be an ace. That was awesome nice career. Thanks so much for that a great fantasy numbers and obviously red sox fans loved him and i love the fact that he never played for another team. I think that's important actually When a guy just plays his whole career for one team and we wish you could have played more in his thirties than he did. But you know he gave us a lot of good fantasy numbers. He was fun to watch and as a guy is not all that tall or heavy. It was fun to watch a guy like that. Pretoria was not five nine listed as five nine. But he's here's like five six but anyway now oh asked cosma traded angels on the next show. Alex cobb for thirty minutes. What do you think of that one. We can't give it away now because we want you to listen to the next one. Thank you so much. Listen to fantasy focus baseball. We back with you soon. By the way is n.'s. Fantasy baseball game launching soon two weeks. I believe That's the plant so that should be a lot of fun for everybody. Everybody who's complaining on twitter. 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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 883  Padres Strike Again; Yankees Active

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 883 Padres Strike Again; Yankees Active

"Hello welcome so eighty-three of the sleeper and the bust. It is tuesday january nineteenth. I'm your host. Paul spor and i'm joined by justin mason justin. Good morning sir. I hope not blown away. My wife Last night that while working in my office. I mean it was so in the iran. Like sixty to seventy mile an hour gusts of wind talk that i felt like my office was going to fly through the air and land in a witch at some point for real like the picture you said is in saying yeah i mean at least it's warm like i have my eater on the office But if you hear any noises it's it's likely either the wind itself or something blowing up against my office and if the podcast abruptly ends because the hundred foot where redwood tree next my office fell on me that yet decided to decide the come down so yaffa ends up being like a eighteen minute pot or something. Then you know that That wind played a role here. So hopefully we get through it but it looks crazy over there We talk about you know you could have also been blown away by a wave of transactions that we've gotten since our last time channing With one even pending that by the time we get to it here it could be finalized and then after we talk about those. We're gonna do a little bit of a check in on where the big dogs Might go now. That some of the market has settled. I wanna see where he got there. And then we'll get started on starting pitchers on thursday instead of kind of half half assing it into the beginning of starting pitchers after all these transactions. So let's just get started. This one's a resign but it is a premium player So it is important. That dj lemay. Who goes back to the to the yankees. It doesn't greatly altered his fantasy value or anything but it does have an impact on the market. So i'm curious. We often talk about the dollars. And because it doesn't matter to us in fantasy in a lot of instances. But i am curious what you thought of the six and ninety for dj lemay. I found it to be a pretty solid deal really for both sides. Dj you're getting six years at age. Thirty two is her age. Thirty two is very nice and then fifteen mile per. That's not too bad for the for the yankees that helps luxury tax purposes. So what did you think on the dollars before we get into. You know how lemmings going to be in twenty one and beyond. I thought it was a very interesting deal. The yankees are trying to stay under the luxury tax on. I think that's why you see him. Get such a long deal At kind of just a lesser annual value than maybe. He might have gotten or i mean. There is a rumor that toronto offered him. I think a four year deal at a higher was going to you. Did you see the tweets. floating around. can't remember they were from that suggested that this was essentially just four hundred ninety but with the two years tax tacked on for the luxury tax purposes Which made sense when you think about where they're at financially in what they wanna do and now you know none of us care that the yankees cry or i mean. They're not crying poor but they're trying to be smart about it. It's one thing to cry or it's another thing to avoid unnecessary penalties if you can Because they knew they they likely knew that they were on the verge of another move right after that that we're going to get into with the corey kluber signing but before we do that. La mayhew has obviously been a mega sut- he's turned into a player. We never seen before in colorado even as great year of two thousand sixteen when he won that batting average title. It wasn't like this in nine eleven. Ps but it was. It was really influenced by the four sixteen. O p He had thirty two doubles eight. Triples eleven homers that ear with eleven steals. He's he's just gone to another level in new york the parks tailored to him. Everything's working out well of course. There's no coors hangover effect on the road. So while he does get was getting a bonus at home he was getting a hit on the road. He's living his best life. He he does have some some star home road splits but i still think that everything that he's able to do should age pretty well with lemay particularly in twenty one but even beyond i think he's he is a decent investment. Obviously they don't really care about like the last two years when you signed them free agent deal like this. You're not looking at years. Five and six but i think you should should age gracefully with the with the profile that he has to agree. Yeah i think so. I mean he's a guy who Has just you know elite bat ball skills and i mean you know maybe the power ticks down over time but he stadium's a great place to hit He feels very comfortable there I think he's a player that you know. If you're a dynasty league like i'm not trying to sell him based on like this news or craig any to yeah or trying to get peak value and at age thirty two but Yeah i mean. I thought it was a really good deal for the yankees helps. Keep them under the the luxury tax and they get a guy who is like the perfect fit for the top of that lineup. Yeah no epsom away from toronto the exactly in division rival there that it's on the come up toronto looking good they're they're action for them thus far in this offseason their religious just come in short on things in fact The deal that they're working on right now. Hopefully they get through with that otherwise might be another second place for them and they're also working on another one of the one of the top players still on the market. We'll get we'll get to all of that in a moment. let's stay with the yankees dugout. They're new corey. Kluber signed hours after the lemay eerie signing so is a big day in yanking land kluber through for teams Just last week and it went. Well you know Fastball v lows where where generally is low nineties but the secondary stuff was looking the way it was supposed to. Everyone seemed to come away. Pretty happy never really thought he'd get a multi year figured he wanted to reestablish himself so one year on eleven Feels right. I i. I think it's a perfectly good gamble for any ball club. And the fact that it's the yankees the they're really trying to spike something here because right now they're rotation is questionable and i think that's where the luxury tax stuff really comes in. They need another solid piece. In my opinion they've got coal. Obviously as the lockdown. We all know what he can do. But then he got kluber jordan. Montgomery like but it's not something you think of like a abang on number three David garcia young prospect d'amico herrmann missed all last year for being garbage luis. Severino back until. I think at least like a month into the season And even back right away. You're talking about. It's a tj return in the at late. Fen were so you know. You don't wanna rush that. So there's a lot of question marks here once you get past their ace and it's it's a great haste but you know surely they have to do something else when you think of kluber here though coming off the to missed years essentially it's thirty six and two thirds innings of uninspired work five sixty five zero one sixty four whip remember in nineteen he had pitched poorly His his kind of perennial slow. Start but then gets hit by a batted ball that breaks his arm and then got i think again oblique while returning from that as well and it just scrap the season then this year was one inning and done with texas after they make that trade forum He's going to be thirty five. So there are no guarantees here. What do you think of kluber as a yankee. Who i'm interested but i i'm i'm more interested to see where he ends up in terms of. Adp moving forward because like where he's going he's been kind of a lottery ticket type of bed communities he's going pretty much at pick to fifty Oviedo since december first. So like that points like okay. It's worth the gamble. If he returns to the guy he was in two thousand eighteen yet. That'd be a man you you you just got your ace at pick to. How much did he come up. The providence signed. We always guys go up my guess something. Yeah my guess is he's going to jump into the Maybe just outside of the top two hundred like the andhra heaney. Tony gone slim. Okay area cushion. Vilar still a fair price for which time cy young ben ali. Yeah i mean you just worry that. There were a lot of red flags kind of before the injury issues. Zero popped up And so i. And maybe i think people will forget about those a little bit but you know the view load already kind of been declining over the last few seasons before a twenty nineteen You know he's never been a guy with a with a good fastball. Anyways that being said i mean. I feel pretty comfortable about the injury in the guy who's been doing a working with him through kind of his riyadh in the offseason works for the so i mean i if they had any concerns about his health. I don't think they would. That makes sense so they feel good about where it's at taking this gamble here You know. I don't really worry about teen context or anything as far as you know if if googlers healthy. I think he's going to be good. I i i really do i. I don't think you're gonna see him labor through You know some sort of mediocre to poor season if he's healthy so maybe we don't go all the way back to two eighty nine point nine nine with the ira and whip. But i would gladly take fifty with a one fifteen Whip as well especially at that. Pick price so. I didn't take the gamble here. If you believe there are some folks who don't want paxton. There's some folks don't want either of them but those are kind of your lottery ticket. Potential aces this year as far as guys that we have seen it before but their stock is way down. We'll see paxton lands. It felt like the yankees. Were going to get one of them. Either bring their own guy back more or you know. Make a push for kluber. They land on kluber solid move. We'll see how pants out. It feels like paxson is gonna end up in toronto. I mean that's that's just the feeling he's from canada. If the need arose actually fits their needs. It answers the yankees which you know the trying keep up with the joneses there And so. I think that would fit. I think it'll be a similar type deal and and we'll see what happens. Maybe maybe he does get it two year but kluber always felt like a one year to prove himself to see where he's at the padres made another trade and holy smokes man. It's unbelievable that they. If i told you that they are going to be working on a deal for joe. Moscow said no dude. what what are they. What do you mean they've got they've got all this stacked pitching that they picked up. They've got prospects ready to To contribute as well they don't they don't need him you know. It's not the standard or they have five they don't need like six or seven before this And they probably didn't have a huge need but this has. This brings up some questions to joe moscow to san diego in a three way trade or the mets get joey lucchessi and then the I put padres. Of course i meant get get just a bevy of prospects headlined by hudson head from the from the padres. Excuse me the number seven guy. Last year david bednarz who's twenty eight or crews was an honorable mention. Drake fellows was a sixth round and twenty. Nineteen in an indie rodriguez was the thirteenth prospect. In the mets system lashes. Those are all last year rankings. A lot of those guys will move up by graduations on their particular teams. It's a it's a pretty big hall from us grow though and i. I believe that they should have gotten a hawks. I really liked joe growth. And i love seeing him. Go to a premium team. Here how do you feel about. Musk and san diego. I mean i love him. Getting away from pittsburgh god because he's going to be on team. That wins games. So that's i mean a huge Plus i mean obviously a sydney goes a decent place pitch not as nice as pnc park of. But i'm i mean i i love the i i love the idea of joe musgrove But i'm starting to get just a little wary of the products. The only concern Because it's scott and i think this is gonna be. Yeah this is going to make it even worse and that's that's becomes a difficult part. Because i do like. Joe must rove's quite a bit rubbed yard draft already filled. Oh make sure you do katie. S go ahead. Sorry for we started this and and We tweeted out and already failed anyway. Continue yeah currently. Since the beginning of the year he is going to pick one forty three at nets. Keep go you know. And i mean yeah and so he's going like right behind Or you know. Maybe ten picks buying kim gausmann seven picks behind seeing the tara right in front of a patrick corbin And i mean he's gonna jump up twenty spa. Bummer here because i love. Musk or we're getting to a price where he has to perform. You know. it's not just kind of picking your guy who think can can break out kind a has to break out and you know this price. I think could rise to like dylan bundy. I think it could be a top top. One hundred guy i. I wouldn't be surprised. I'm actually interested to see if he's gone yet in this This new draft. I've started on still pick pick one zero five. But i bet he goes soon. You know the where people are considering all have a decision. Yeah off a decision to make When it comes back to me in the eighth round because I i waited on starting pitching And ended up. You know kind of filling it in rounds five through seven and maybe i wanna grab before starter already. Mammo deka joined our league took them at one. Oh nine took moscow but one oh nine in in a draft yesterday. So i mean. That's that's where he's going to be in that and he's going to be in our drought must go is going to be in that range if if you want us growth. You're going to have to pay. Because as a map pointed out. He considered guzman there. Who's very similar to moscow in that you know people waited on him for years thinking like this is the break the breakout and then he finally took. He finally took a big step last year. Look great with with the giants Always had that came through. We've seen a lot of great talent from from moscow but we haven't seen it pan out into premium numbers. He's always been one of those guys. Where the a little bit high. But the whips good over the last three years ago can afford twenty-three era a one twenty whip. The strikeouts really took a jump last year. He finally started to parlay that swing. Strike rate improved it but also the the it was good before that jumped up to fourteen point. Four thirty three percent strikeout rate. That's great that's that's exactly what we're looking for. So the elements are there for us growth. I really do believe that he can be somebody who earns that pig. I'll still end up getting some shares of him because Because i really do believe in the player but it's certainly not as fun at it won't be as fun to pay for it as it. Was you know when he was trending in the one fifty or lower range. yeah you know our very own. Alex chamberlain I'm going to find his tweet from last night. Because i it's it's kind of how i'm starting to feel a little bit on moscow. Because he he's a guy that i've already gotten On a number of teams are at the and. I'm kind of glad that i've gotten you know some earlier Shares of him. Because now if i decide. I don't want to pay the price you're already set. You know i feel like oh. Yeah i don't feel like i'm missing out on him. so Let's see Joe a quick joe. Muscular of recap fastball. View ramped up dramatically in september of twenty nineteen results and sued Vitolo bumped van vanished to begin twenty. Twenty bad results ensued. I l eight four twenty returned my al nine to twenty zero bump returned as the good results. Alas the breakout. Can i totally agree with all of that. And it's been somebody that i've been been touting for a little bit as buyer i really like and i think we can see something quite nice form and you know. He's got a but isn't this. Aren't we risking that. This is just he you know he just does these. You know one month bombs like an you know is this the garrett hamson of pinching i think is is easier than i can guarantee hamster. Never did you know outside of that. One month i mean just just sierra twenty eighteen to twenty twenty Among seventy five qualified pitchers with at least three hundred innings must groves thirty first at four zero six was the that's the quality countries bene- quality pitcher. Does it walk guys. I think i think the talent here. I think the talent here is obvious personally. And yet there's been a little bit of ups and downs as far as cashing in on that on that talent to bring the guy to the four that we want. But i you know it's also the fact that he's going to be twenty seven or excuse me twenty eight. He's still in the development phase. Where i think there's still another level that can be tapped into but if you just look at the raw skills that he's had seventeen percent strikeout minus walk right in that same three year period. Twenty four percent this past year. I think there's a lot a lot to like. I think we could really see a low threes. Era with great whip in a breakout season for us growth. And i think he can get a full workload to You know he threw one seventy in two thousand nineteen. I don't know that they have to have kid gloves with with moscow. I think we could see a buck. Eighty plus this year for the twenty eight year old. And i'm seeing i'm seeing big without deep bullpen to an rotation is now they may not need to push him to win. But i don't think even one eight he's like like an over kicking overdrive. But i don't worry about you know Oh moscow pen for a month. And he's back in the rotation as back in the moment i think he'll be in there and we pitch and regularly and the really good and now he's on a really good team and you know i think breakout time but you're paying for that so that's the thing if you don't believe in it be careful because like i said you're gonna have to pay for it all right. Let's let's continue to move forward here. Oh yeah did you want to say anything about joy. Lucchessi onto the mets and you know never liked him because he does not show out well in command plus like not that understates it. He's dead last so he's it does make you wonder is a reliever make you wonder though like the success has to be based on on something and i. I just have to imagine deception. Because he no he does have two hundred thousand nine innings of four twenty one year. A one twenty eight web which is terrible. He was awful this year. But it's five in two thousand sixteen was done but he really wasn't a bad pitcher and eighteen and nineteen Performance wise but the underlying skills that that was looking into just have always been so bad four lucchessi that you're wondering like do the wheels come off here at some point. Four twelve sierra in that in that time from eighteen ninety three twenty in two hundred nine nine innings Said eidos just fully out based on on those metrics t feel the same way. Yeah i i. Just i worry the swell come off. I think he's a reliever. He's pretty much to pitch guy And i mean he may get a chance to start in new york to start the year. Maybe they decide. Matt's is the guy that goes to the bullpen. But i think he ends up their event. Okay yeah and then as far as the prospects go like i said hudson head is really the big one there for the for the pirates But they did get a home here. I think i think it's a good. It's a good situation to trade mosque. Roving and get a big haul them. They're obviously continuing their tear. Down there in pittsburgh now for a few smaller moves. John lester goes out to washington. I kind of think he's washed I'm not really interested. Even in some of the performance that you and i tend to play the writing on the wall for a bit now even eighteen when he performed well. His underlying skills said that three thirty two was was a little wobbly than it was. Four forty six and then this year In sixty one innings a five sixteen with skills that earned that so. Do you really see anything here in washington that's gonna make you even gamble on. Unless they're late. Yeah no i mean. In the last few rounds of a fifty round draft. And hold you know and you're just looking for innings I guess sure. But like if you were yeah. If you're counting on like austin saw yeah no who i did. Take an like last. Couple rounds of dc recently He's probably not in the rotation now So that's kind of a bummer. But i mean yeah you're gonna get potentially one hundred seventy two two hundred innings because that's what leads this might be an instance where the volume is is a detraction from. Yeah i mean if you take it in a five year end. That's that's voc- beat out on joe. Ross i think joe ross is guaranteed anything at this point Alatha disaster unfortunately followed the path of his brother. His yard area has been north of five each of the last three seasons So you know ross is a guarantee. They haven't been a fan of him in the past. But i'm not. I'm not banking on anything there. So we'll see how that fits spot goes. You can still take both in your deeply if you want. I don't think it's out of bounds. Especially because you know Leicester's also older and they've had some injury concerns with some of their studs too so there could be some time for him even if he starts in the bullpen. there With both but yeah john lewis or just doesn't really just doesn't really get a go and What about archie bradley to philadelphia. Now they've made to solid moves with jose alvarado being the other to address that bullpen. That was really hector neri's in a bunch of clowns. Now they add to solid pieces here they would be well served to add one more in the same realm of talent before the before i would really start to say okay. This this bullpen can be a strength but bradley looks pretty good and he could dethrone the reason for the for the closer role now. Yeah i mean. I've been very Open about that. I think he turned and turned himself. quietly into a really good reliever And i mean since pretty much the all star break of twenty nineteen He's been one of the best relievers in baseball from Straight numbers perspective and Skills you know obviously aren't quite in line with it but they're not that far off. I think use closer inca. He's going to be the closer in philadelphia and you can get him. Extremely i i. I actually agree with that. You know what. I'm with you. And i think take a shot and get him. He's going to be cheaper than henry's and so that's another reason like we've talked about. How bullpens are just absurd this year. Like once you get past the top two or three and so go for it and and take your shot. Take your specs. Aren't you bradley. Isn't good spec and I think it was a good pick up by their quietly putting together a few things here. We'll see if they're going to get their catcher backlogs actually talking about that here momentarily but let me let me check the wire here to see if that pending move is indeed done. Let's see all anomaly of a huge move. The tigers got erasmo ramirez dog. Whoa whoa. whoa whoa. I mean that is. How are you going to resist not faking him. He's always no chance that. I have to get them and suddenly got at least get an aol just to get her ashville. Love it amazing. Move not the move. I was talking about though we are Kind of following. We're following kirby gates to the jays. Potential is not locked but it looks like it. Looks like we're just gonna wait for that other shoe to drop. It has not dropped yet. this could change. But let's talk about it as though it's going to happen because we're not gonna go into overwhelming detail anyway so even if we have to come back and say you know what he didn't sign he's going somewhere else or whatever. We can handle that on thursday but if this deal does go through. And and he goes to the jays. The jordan raimondo specs. The raphael dooley's specs. They go by. The wayside museums obviously becomes the guy off rep What would you feel about gates in toronto. I mean i'm i'm concerned with the health obviously And i mean he really struggled last year Only only pitch four thorough shots was a disaster. Yeah i was just straight season. I mean you would assume that any team that signed him Has done their due diligence and that you know he's healthy. I i just worry now. Promise anything he can only look at the medical bills and say we'll take this gamble on said player and who knows where it goes. Well we don't know terms if it comes out like really cheap back okay. Well there is still some big concern but prior to this. Yates was incredible so they could beginning. You know like a coup burien spec here. That could really pan out. He just came off to brilliant seasons in eighteen and nineteen so yes. It was a washout in in twenty And you you're right you know. He's a little older to thirty four. But i i. I think this is smart. Move for toronto. Go for here is much like raimondo. And it kind of bums me out that that he might not He might not get an opportunity. I well i mean. He's still guide is spelled in your your deeper leagues. Because in a minute. If if this elbow issue that he had last year that really affected him turns out to be something that shelves him for a season. Romano seems like he's likely to be first thing up over in that in that bullpen. Yeah and so. I don't know. I mean it's clearly not just like a cheap deal because the padres who had wanted to resign him were apparently priced out and they didn't appear pressed out anyone. I don't i would assume it's going to be either a multi year deal or you know A pretty good size One year deal. So i mean i think if he signs rondo he's the guy but like i would outside of leagues in which they're so shallow where you can't handcuff people. I feel like few draft. Kirby hits you have to draft ramona just you. You really shit. Yeah would not make a lot of sense to let that go by the wayside. Their draft order is out where we picked. I'm picking eleven and you are picking eighth. Oh my my prefer. Just keep gut Gut our number one spot I had the second choice. I chose to go down there at eleven. Oh i wanted to be at toward the back end there because it's really think the first round super deep so give me back in the second round quicker and now you've been in that eight range there. Will you get another justin. Turner trade turner share will see we. We shall states. We'll we'll see. I mean if if either degrom or colour there i may just take one i may take them just to see how you can build with the will we gotta we gotta start out. It's going to be nuts. 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But let's talk about an update on the free agent market and kind of See more ads as the dust has settled but some things have started to go into place. Teams have made their moves. San diego's obviously had a banner off season. I want to look at three of the big guys left. Jt rowe muto george springer and trevor bauer and get your read on the rumors that we've gotten. Where do you think they could land. If we've forget tyler chat would signed a one. You're you know what okay. let's That i have not been a chat with guy since everyone fawned over him going to the cubs. And it was the same old garbo. But i will say nineteen on the bullpen. Was pretty nice. Three seventy six one. Thirty three whip walks are always going to be an issue. He didn't walk. The that was the thing to there was some improvement. I believe at the end of seventeen that had people excited for him going to the comes in eighteen and he led baseball with ninety five walks and he only through one hundred three and two thirds justin and he still led baseball as he walked more than he struck out. Eighty five strikeouts. That was the i was out. I was one hundred percent out. I'd deb not touched a shower chair. Since his eight walks per nine was not in dousing. I was good on that now. He did slice it in. Half in nineteen has carried that through twenty But another issue developed in twenty it was hits all of a sudden ten point six and that kept him from having much of a season in his five starts was only eighteen. And two-thirds thirds. Put up at five. Thirty irina 166 web for me. I just you know waiver fodder. If something happens and is available. I i could maybe see myself Taking a waiver. Shot i if it really came together. But i doubt it i i really doubt it. what do you think a chat would even if it really comes together like you're still looking at a guy is potentially thank you know. Yeah even if you do get a decent era You're looking at one once it. Does he start them. Do you think or does it depend on whether or not they get. Paxton elliott is. It is it. Td at this point. I guess is the question. Yeah i think it's i think this is okay. Worst case scenario we don't get any of the remaining guys that we really want on the market Either through free agency or trade. At least we can throw a tyler. I mean he's at least a six right now for them with ryu ray pearson roark and stripling. He's right there as as the sixth. But whatever i mean it was worth at least bringing up the move because he does have some high strikeout outside and he can be part of that bullpen wasn. I apologize. I'm sure folks are gonna to get suckered by that strikeout rate. Don't do it don't do it. i promise you don't want to let's let's start. Let's let's stay on the jades when we start here. I'm gonna change order these players listed. Because they're still heavily rumored george springer. They seem to be the favored at this point. We know how things can change their we. Don't you know being being. The favourite doesn't really matter But they are believed to be making a push for him. We talked about this when we first did our fridge run through. Do you see springer eventually landing with jays to somebody else come in and say you know what we prefer springer. Give him to us like the mets or somebody else. Was that a move or large telling me to take my medication. So i will leave that in just for the fall all right. I think he does end up with the. I feel like the jays are trying to or willing to offer maybe more than other teams I mean it's it's going to be a really good situation for him. The question is i in. i think for most Free agents do they wanna pbn apply canada. That's i think that is a consideration for only for some of these talks for asians so You know will that you know stop springer from signing there especially if a deal to new york is somewhat close in terms of the same. You know amount of years and In of that seem to be a prime suitor ver- springer as well with the idea that the age would come in then move to laugh dom smith d. h. And have one of the best lineups they do already but it would just be holy smokes if they added him so i mean i think he ends up neither new york or toronto I mean i don't think either Is a bad landing spot Maybe got a little bit more power potential in toronto as opposed to playing in the work but i also don't think that were like docking him five or eight runs for resigning new york so And i think there's a ton of runs going potential at the top their lineup Yeah i think. I'm going to say that he ends up with the blue jackets but would not be It really does seem to be those two. It would have to be the proverbial mystery team or something to come through and put springer on on a different team. Because we've really only seen rumors to those two clubs. So i really would be surprised if if he landed elsewhere at this point but will keep close eye on springer. Jt realmuto and with this one. I mentioned earlier hundred bradley. You know what they get their catcher back in philadelphia. I guess the real question for me is if they don't learn else does he really fit toronto boy they i mean they can definitely get him. But what do you do with janssen liquor. That's you know not not that he's not that he's not better than them but like as they lose out on springer and go real muto. Yeah i think it's it's i don't think they're in the market after both but i think you know if one of them signs somewhere else if removed the signs him in philadelphia. Then they're gonna go even more full-bore on getting springer if springer signs in new york they're gonna You know go. Full bore unreal moods l. I mean kirk right now is projected to be there. Yeah ch- vlad's lost a ton of weight in the offseason. They're going to give him another shot at third Rowdy to laze. You know manning first base Meet kirks Steamer projections are united solo on friday Talking about interesting steamer projections and he was in it because they love him to talk about talk about those projections for those who didn't listen episode. What what is it. What are they looking for him. I mean i saw it a for you know i was like coming up with my my my auction values for the friends of fantasy benefits draft guide. I ran some projections for you. Know some different projects. It's just kinda see what different projection systems had guys at and when i ran steamers projections for him he came out as the four major they You know right now. They've got him hidden to eighty nine three fifty four four Seventy five fifteen runs folded forced to. Let's say there too by the way. Yeah i mean yeah bats. Their depth chart cesaro zips is the only one zips came out just yesterday right You know they only album for ten home runs and they only have them for three hundred eighty six plate appearances obviously any signing that potentially you know limits is playing with th or even a catcher. Church could hurt But like he's a huge gamble going round pick three thirty. I believe And so i mean. I don't know if i buy action but i mean hanes got nothing but perform the miners now. He did make the jump from high a to the majors this year and twenty five point appearances he can put virtually nothing into it but he did do well. Four hit game that kind of carries that so we don't care about that. We're looking at the minor leagues though one. Sixty one seventy three one. Fifty three are his three minor league stops those. Wrc plus totals for those three stops. He he can hit kirk. Can so you know talking about realmuto. Maybe going to toronto. that does seem like janssen. Should not block you from the best catcher in the game. Neither should a twenty two year. Old kirk. I i agree with you. There that they they should be potential sooners Even with you know janssen's defense being strong and you know the bat though just kind of has these flashes and can't really come together again three thirteen. Vp last year with a wage three batting average so three thirteen on its face is great but within split with batting average basically the bottom line was he had a fourteen percent walking like there's some foundational skill their janssen does it walk and doesn't strike out much. He can take his walks. He's got some. It's kind of emerging a 175 ice on this but it hasn't really all come together said you got an opportunity to get rota now. I ask you this. Would they then trae janssen cause cancer. Who's shown a few things here and there should be enticing but then again To aware like what are there any other teams that need catchers that are competing that could really begin now. Janssen training chances different than signing realmuto. So they wouldn't have necessarily the same markets but if it's not philly if it's not toronto where the hell would realmuto. There's no nowhere else is there. I mean not not with the kind of money that i think he wants angel. I mean there's always. I like back. Yeah well they they just yeah. They brought xueqian seidel. No they like. They're necessarily to be honest. So i i can't find another place. It seems to be go back to philly or toronto or washington involve china rather mentioned that But gums do you really want to relegate him to like once a isn't it too good to be somebody doesn't play but once or twice a week. Yeah but i mean with the d. h. They're you know maybe you can actually play You know i mean houston would be an amazing atm spot but it just does not seem like they are willing to spend money right now. Which seems weird considering. How closely word going back to another that. The wild card right there because martinez denounced great defensively. But he again. You know this is not stopping. He should not be stopping you from getting potentially the best catcher are not potentially the best catcher base from potentially getting him swimming. Say and you know. They've lost their outfield. As we've talked about on here they need an outfielder but this would be a high impact. Move that i think would really put them back on the radar for folks. The people are sleeping on houston as as anything right now which i think as well as is their field would be so bad that i really wouldn't like them that much but assuming that they're going to get at least one outfielder if not to that are kind of in that mid tier range and muto. I think they'd become ill west favorites again even without verlander. I mean i'll give you dark. Okay team that. I don't think anybody would think would might be. But could the marlins bring back jay. They've been linked to wills yet has already this offseason I mean i don't know if they want to give that kind of contract to a catcher especially one is about to be thirty years now. Kind of mean the The end of the farro Well i mean if they're in on wilson truly not super tied to that's fair completely fair Yeah like why not. I mean that's the thing that once you get past philly in toronto you really start talking about dark horses that you kinda don't fully see and it's kind of like What they do. What about if the cardinals are done with. Yanni cardinals don't seem to be wanting anybody knowing. Now that this isn't it's it's it's a great perennial Runners up and stuff right to show that. Hey we were involved. You know we we try and this other. They never intended there. They're never making big moves but it seems like recently it's been a lot of the cardinals were in it but they couldn't get it done and and you know are they just going to bring back. Molina it's mut or are they going to say you know what we haven't been in the market for a little bit. Let's let's make a big splash here but then do you want to have all that money tied up in goldie and realmuto on the wrong side of thirty. Both as you're pregnant guys. I don't think i don't think they're even. i think. This is the charts of teams that that have projected low end catching and the cardinals twenty first. Because it's andrew nizer an entire heinemann. So that's that's the only reason i brought them up. Gear called those number one overall in our draft by the way. Yeah i just saw that to the affirmation rob rob petri. I think at pull hitter or at deadpool. Everything on on twitter definitely go super super smart guy In another draft with them right. Now that's around thirty rounds in Not something you want to draft with. Thanks a lot rob you who said advertising no yes so we'll see where that goes. I really think that That's villier toronto. For realmuto but i am eager to see that like. Let's say they get gates and springer here in short order in toronto. And there's say you know what or were extensively done on big tickets were we might move around the edges at that point then it becomes philly versus the field. And you know they're kind of crying a little bit poor to making some some smaller moves and we'll see what happens with With real muto's market but he's still on elite catcher and somebody's gonna sign him obviously Finishing with with trevor bauer. You know he's love in the free agent being a free agent right playing it up engaging with every fan base on twitter like you know driving people nuts we haven't really seen the s p market developed all that much you know we just talked about the kluber move. There were two guys that resigned with would their team be at the qualifying offer in guzman. Stroman there's You smiley morton minor. These are not massive moves right now. anything else. I've missed robbie ray who cares. Yeah so it hasn't been huge but there's also not a ton out there. He's still the big dog. Do you have any better. Read right now than you did. At the beginning of the offseason. On where bauer might go. I really don't. I mean it seems weird that I mean obviously people are expecting him to get a big money deal But where. I mean i guess the blue jays are the team that seems to make the most sense they want to be big spenders. This off season And they have desperate needs in their rotation but it surprising like i mean. It's not surprising. He hasn't signed yet. But it's surprising that we haven't seen more smoke right. I mean the the rumors aren't really there. It's it's been kind of quiet on that front right now. bauer companies. They seem biding their time. And there are plenty of fits. I don't think it's for lack of fits With where bauer could go. But are there though. I mean every hendricken wondering which i know but the yankees. Don't wanna go over the salary cap so it takes a big span out. You know oakland tampa bay are not teams. That are interested in spending money. It seems like the entire net national league central doesn't want spend money Atlanta's got of bull or a lot of Rotation they ranks anyways. Either i think the dodgers always dodgers yet but their rotations already. I mean they're absolutely that they can't add up a possible candidate for him. There's you know linked philadelphia makes a lotta silent. They're saying they don't want us to every every rumor from team is like we're we're cutting costs. I i wonder if that changes with dombrowski. Because i mean a lot of that talk was pre dombrowski being you know brought in. And since he's been brought in you know they haven't made any major major moves but they went out and they got archie bradley. They've been you know apparently offered real muto hundred million dollar contract which was something that Supposedly was not on the table in season last year when they were doing. Negotiations is trying to keep him in. I do. I kind of wonder if philadelphia becomes a sneaky team here On a bauer. 'cause that rotation becomes a very very interesting with him I you know. I mean the white sox who knows like to the white sox get at this and bob dylan cease to the bullpen. Or i mean right. Now they got dylan cease and michael kopech. There's a vet go to the mall. And then of course the angels remain lurking remember. They were the angels medical audience. I think that's probably the best fit right now in terms of need. And even you know situation. I think i think that's a. That's a good situation there that he could go to and be there. Be there ace with heaney bundy and canning behind. Tony obviously question mark. But i i still think that's the best but we got nothing. We have nothing today or you to put him on a team then where he putting her probably names. That's part of. It is wishful thinking like. I want them to get him. Because i want them to be good. But i don't know. I just don't know i think he makes a lotta sense especially guy who like has talked about wanting to pitch every food is Not that the angels would necessarily let him do that but the injury issues. That are not as say that they'd want him do that. But the injury issues in that rotation could mean in a pinch he cooked. Yeah exactly And you know and prove that it is possible for him to do so Yeah i mean the angels seem like plus the you know he gets the la which seems like You know something. He might be interesting for him that he might like Angels make a lot of sense As the kind of the top spot but honestly there hasn't been any smoke to know there. There really hasn't and so it's looking like we haven't gotten the the four dead market the way we did a couple years ago or like land early. Nothing happened until january But it's a little bit of a quieter market especially at the top there. I think start to see pieces followed. I think the rest of this month and into early february obviously going to move the market quickly and maybe this is one of those moves. It's rare it's rare with the with the big dog and where we talked about. This trend happening Couple weeks ago where. The rumor was very quick and then something happened. Maybe we don't get a bunch of lead up to out this team's working on it working on at work. Maybe it's just boom. They're talking with bauer and he's an angel. You know five seconds later said the link that maybe maybe it ends up being quick. I don't know maybe it's a matter of some of these bigger free agents so you know offensive free agents. Come off the board. I you know. The blue jays miss out on springer and rule. Muto all of a sudden. It's like we need to make splash and bowers. The be lasts for them to make to buy all. I almost make the case. That that's a better splash for them to make. I mean you know. We haven't talked about this today You know the kind of this. The issues with the mets front office and firing their their general manager in absolute turbo. But you wonder if the mets wanna make another splash to divert some of the attention. They certainly have a base right. Even when pencil syndergaard not gain peterson and matt's taken. The last two spots feeling is then. You become really right true true. Yeah because then only one of them can make it one stores back. No actually now. They both Pardon me pardon me because yeah he put one hour and for the other. But on my god that i'm looking at it their entire projected rotation or bullpen. Excuse me would also be right handed. Well i mean you would move. I assume you move peterson and I guess can't get by. I don't know who he who he kicking out. I guess. miguel. Castro does not fancy a spotlight dinner. Maybe even brad brought to jacob barnes. Yes maybe those two glen too. Although i actually. I only think matt's going peterson and go to the miners. So he's he states on the starting rotation so we'll see You know steve. Cohen has been clear that he's ready to spend money And that would be obviously a massive move for them so we'll stay tuned on all of it. I just wanted to check in on on what's going on with the with the market right now with the with the main three that that that are left out there We're starting to get move. I hope we get more trades. It's been a fun trade off season. That's for sure Nothing yet on the eight so it remains a rumor now. i'll make sure that that is signified. In the in the show notes on the pond that it is not a done deal. We'll see if it gets done by thursday but we also start talking. Starting pitching may have guessed. I don't know if we wanted for part one or part two of my wonderful part. He doesn't take any of the early guys so we should worry about getting wish. Get nick pollock for part to to be honest. Because you know i'm always gonna tell us is. I'm not drafting that guy. I'm not drafting. That guy too early for me. So we'll see but we'll talk. It will start getting some thirty pitchers until then justin

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Yankees Gamble On Corey Kluber

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Yankees Gamble On Corey Kluber

"In two thousand and three nike signed thirteen-year-old freddie due to a seven figure contracts. But freddie didn't live up to the height he is turned down every single documentary project looking closely at the details of his career. Until now we're going to look at everything you did because of the hype surrounding your arrival. And what they think you can be. I'm grant wall. And this american prodigy freddy adu from blue i podcasts. We are breaking down all aspects of yankee baseball. This is the bronx in stretch. Show with your host angel. Rotundi and scott ryan. Let's go what's up everyone. Welcome to the bronx pinstripe. Show episode five hundred and nine all right scott so since since we recorded last. Dj lemay he was in the works. I don't know if it's signed yet but it's in the works and ten hours later or something. The kluber the kluber news was announced. Was busy friday for the yankees. Yeah a lot of things happening. They addressed the pitcher. They got their guy and dj. Lemay who thank god. I should say they. They kind of address. They're pitching addressed this a little bit. This is this is This is something we said. Like louis kluber. I did call him. He's potentially the troy to lewinsky of pitchers this year. And i think that's a fair analysis of corey kluber. I don't think this this gives me no more confidence right. Then where the yankees stood before could kluber turn into a really solid number to shore. Yeah good two thousand eighteen. The last year he was fully healthy he was fantastic. I think he finished fourth in cy young voting but if he pitches like nine starts and then is shut down for the years. Anyone going to be surprised. No that's the problem here is that we don't know where we're getting. I know that they saw their. They're good with the medicals. They have an inside track with cressey. You know you'd assume and in what they've seen on a day to day. I'm sure that they've done the csi on on corey kluber much like they did with tanaka nakas elbow and figuring out exactly what's happening there and again the cressey connection. Obviously i think gives them some inside information about what's happening. And how the developments been and how he's revved up to. When he did the showcase so they obviously feel good about it and they gave him a not a small contract. So eleven million dollar contract which now gives us practically no flexibility up against the luxury tax deadline that had ninety seven people have ninety seven different answers for food first of all. I hate that we as fans talk about luxury tax so much like this is not something as a fan. You should really be concerned about but right here we are as yankees fans were concerned about it. And yeah there's like different information do the yankees at five million ten million fifteen million to work with. I'm like ninety nine point nine percent. Sure they have just under five million dollars to work within the luxury tax because player benefits and minor league salaries count towards the tax total tax payroll and the yankees forty man tax payroll as we stand here today after the updated arbitration numbers. Because that's were disclosed. We now know what they are whereas a week ago. We didn't know we were guessing using projections correct. It was just projections. So the updated is one hundred. Eighty seven point one. Four six million than the benefits is estimated at fifteen point. Five million and minor league salaries. Which is everyone on the forty man roster. Who's not on the twenty six man roster is two point five million which comes out to two hundred and five point one four six million which is four point eight five three million under the tax threshold. Those a lot of numbers edges throughout you. The real bottom line here is whether it's four point eight five point three six point five. It's not a ton of room to work with. No it's not so corey kluber while he's a great name and the potential is is maybe there. I mean when you're looking at a guy who's coming off of the shoulder injury. He pitched one inning or in the first inning for the texas. You're you're certainly playing with with fire there and you don't know the depth you're going to get you know he's not going to be the corey kluber that he was when he won the cy young he's not going to be. That guy is depicted. Do you believe about him. Blurts inning guy. No it's not even hundreds right so that's my point. Like what are we doing here. We're we're expecting everybody's expecting potential peak coober. But that's not even really on the table if corey kluber makes twenty-seven starts to a four point two seven era. Do you think the yankees would be happy with that signing say it one more time the number twenty seven starts yeah. Four point two seventy ra. I hope i really hope not. Because that's that's not that's not a good signing. That's not what i would expect. That's not what we want. That's events realistic for when that's slightly above league average that's a one zero four plus which is basically league average. The reason i used those numbers is because that's what masahiro tanaka has given you. The last two seasons. What i'm telling you is. I think a realistic expectation for corey. Kluber is what masahiro. Tanaka has been the last two years. It's that's very fair because they made a decision. It seems like they made a decision and it was either going with tanaka going with kluber and they chose kluber. They chose the upside of kluber upside of is more upside he kluber. You're more upside. Yes theoretically has more upside if he can do miles per hour eighty seven miles per hour. Whatever he was showing his thing and i know it's january but yeah i mean it's theoretic upside because of what we've seen you know what i i've seen that from tanaka to i've seen tanaka be dominant for for for times not kluber dominant. But i've seen it. There's potential there this when we're talking about old men. Potential has a different ring to it. It's not it's not the tools he type of potential guy that i'm looking for. I'm looking at a thirty five thirty six year. Old corey kluber. Starting the season with limited potential coming off of a major soldier shoulder injury. Well i think kluber while he has more upside than tanaka. He has more downside. I think as well. I think tanaka you basically bucket him into like a adjust lower just below above league average next year whereas kluber could be really good but he could also be really bad or you could just also not pitch. Yeah he could be a nonfactor which which is a real possibility this zillions. What we're saying is move does not really help. It doesn't is rotation no not going into the season so so yes it could. While the the player has again the ability to be good. It doesn't do anything for preparation or expectations for in my opinion. Because you have to prepare like. He's not there almost. You still have to prepare like that. Well he he's gotta prepare like whatever you get out of him is kind of a. It's like it's like up or are they looking at his physicals and identifying what they are and expecting him to be there all year and just maybe at a different level as the year. I i saw some some guys talking about. When just before he had a showcase was you might get a three four in the rotation corey kluber in you know in may june but you might get a number one in august september as he ramp stopping continues to. That's the dream. That's the ideal scenario for the yankees is that they let him work his way up throughout the season. He's pitching his best in the second half of the season into into the playoffs. That's an ideal scenario. But that's a really hard thing to bank on. So that's what we're looking at is going to be management essentially in the beginning of the season for corey kluber. If you will. They're going to. They're not going to press them early right. They're not going to. they're not going to. They're going to keep them within a a constraint whether it's innings or number of pitches or corey you just give us the nod when when you leave. Whatever it is. It's going to be in the range of five innings. No it's going to be a five inning. Start ever took. Tanaka was exactly so. They're going to be wrapping this up potentially using kids unless we have a trade that comes in potentially using kids to fill in. Maybe he gets a starts skipped here and there. You know like we're going to be dealing with this probably for the first three months of the season if not more why do you think they chose to pay the eleven million dollars to kluber verses close to that tanaka or what are less than that for paxton. You could go down short hole because paxton you could you. Could you could argue. That paxton gives you a similar upside to what corey kluber is right now at thirty six years old. Because i don't. I don't think that corey kluber corey kluber and so people need to get that out of their brains until i see until we see it because it's not there. Well i'm also just done with james paxton so if given the chance like who do. I wanna gamble on. Gamble on corey kluber. Because that's new to me. And i don't want to gamble on james paxton anymore like i've been burned by that for two years in a row sub done with it so fine. I'll take a gamble on corey kluber in that sense. Yeah okay but what. He's doing thirty innings. Since two thousand eighteen right we'll and also paxton paxton signs for eleven million dollars. He's probably gonna sign for five or six million bucks. That's my guess. I've scott boris guy like boras somehow pulls rabbits out of his ashes every year and gets way more money for his guys than we ever thought possible. It may maybe but to me. There's a I don't know he's a little bit more of a proof that he's healthy. I guess even though he just gets injured even when he's happy. I don't think so i i think because if you look kluber injuries since so the last two years. He fractured his right arm. In may of two thousand nineteen In a game against the marlins then he was trying to rehab but he wasn't able to get back. You shut down for the season. Surprisingly cleveland picked up his seventeen and a half million dollar option at the end of the two thousand nineteen season and then immediately flipped him to texas as sort of like a salary dump. They didn't really get many decent players for him. They just want to offload as money and texas was taking this similar gamble. The yankees are currently taking. Hey what are we going to get out of this guy. Who was a cy young caliber pitcher all texas got one inning. So that didn't work out for them. Now you say okay. He's a further year removed from that era older and ear older fine. But so for the yankees. Though you're like okay. We'll we're also going to take a gamble on him for ten or eleven million bucks which puts us up against the luxury tax which doesn't give us a ton of flexibility because clearly staying under the luxury tax is a priority for us. So let's gamble. Why are you gambling with a a world when you're trying to win a world series. Why are you gambling well again. you know. I think one of the things that that i talked myself into last episode was that the opportunities to get better right now significantly. Better to say okay. We've we've went for it and now are contending for a world series. Those opportunities are limited as we as we as we speak especially limited if they are going to be staying underneath the tax threshold of to ten or go to the next and then wouldn't you rather just not signed kluber and have fourteen million under the luxury tax to add at some point over the season. So they're they're taking an opportunity now where they have one. We don't know what's going to be an opportunity at revenue trade deadline. So it's hard to know today. I'm waiting i'm waiting. i'm waiting. Nobody wants to hear that shit either and we have this money but we just want to make sure we're able to be doing something if in case the right person came about i agree. I'm just posing bill scenarious but you look at different different opportunities as well for guys that are potentially available in a trade market. Let's use the guy who's been in the rumors all over twitter. I didn't even see it before. We talk on our last episode. And i brought him up. Yeah you mentioned. But he's also been rumored for a while but it was. It was hot and heavy on on twitter recently. luis garcia. A guy like that. Who has a controllable. Salary doesn't sound huge hit on the onto the tax threshold in the way that it's Spread across so a guy like that. Does it really matter when you trade for him. Even if you were to sign a guy like kluber some room you figure some things out you move this year you move this you shove some stuff underneath a couple of things and now boom you can get you can still make a trade for luis casio and oh by the way. You still have corey kluber. So i still think there's opportunities to do this. And if it's not custodio for cash to identify players like that where they can make a move have somebody that's controlled longer. The salary is better for what they're trying to do with a luxury tax. And they're giving up you know. Probably more top prospects and just overpaying for someone like that so i still think there's an opportunity there. Yeah i the the geraldine was. There was no guarantee spending the dollars. That's where the problem was trying to significantly get better unless you're going. Trevor bauer. there's not a ton of opportunities to say. Oh yes we're better spent Guaranteeing the eleven million is a little bit interesting though for for kluber and i have no clue what kind of contract he was looking for. Maybe he would not sign a multi year deal but you could have actually fudged around with the tax threshold if you gave kluber say four million bucks for this year with a team option for or a vesting option for next year where he hit certain incentives. He gets twenty million bucks next year or something like that. I mean you probably wouldn't been. You probably wouldn't have landed him because he was you know what i'm saying. He just doesn't want to do that but he's thirty six years old so even if he pitches well this year he's not going to sign a multi year deal next year is he. I don't know two year deal. Maybe if you if you show that he can do well. Though i mean he would. He would put himself in a position. I guess he yesterday. J hap- contract right. If he pitches a solid season he might get the j. deal. Maybe that's his plan But getting to the louis casteel rumors which were if you if you logged on twitter at a certain hour over the weekend the yankees had traded for lewis castio if you logged on twitter like twenty five minutes later everyone whose everyone was calling the reports bullshit so whatever But reportedly the reds were asking for gleyber torres as the centerpiece package for lewis. Castio and brian cashman promptly hung up the phone as he should have for for Lewis castio there was also rumors that miguel and do heart and clint frazier could have been in a package going to cincy. It doesn't sound like any of this is going to happen though. It doesn't sound like it. The the cincinnati gm. Also shit all over these these reports as well. But i would do that too. If i got hung up on what i was asking people i wanted. You know i feel like everybody's asking for gleyber torres every single time. They call to cashman just like seeing if he's sleeping at that moment or you're just off his game like yeah yeah. Sure it's it's not gonna happen. Seemed pretty pretty pretty clearly. That's not going to happen. I really buddy buddy. Boris i yeah i would. I'm sure there's a couple players in the league passion would do that for. But it's it's certainly not louis castio. Yes so i think at this point. It doesn't seem like it's happening. Clint frazier did the fifth year in a row. He's reverted offseason traits. Yup and him are being packaged together. As a is a popular one as well that was the original garrett cole. Wasn't it for pittsburgh which was a different goal at the time head. Hindsight's twenty twenty on that totally different one. A guy neal was was using that. As a cop and i don't see that as a cop because it was a different player so when you're looking at what he was in pittsburgh and what luis castillo is currently. It's pretty damn close to be honest if not leaning a little towards castio. Aren't you a little gun. Shy though of cashman making a move for another guy like louis castio just because of it not working out the last multiple like five times that he's tried to do it sunny gray michael pineda james paxton like it's lewis. Casteel would have been another one of those guys. I don't know man shooter shoot. You know what. I'm saying like you can't be shy. You gotta go. You gotta shoot like saying when you look at all. these vacuum. Michael pineda should have frequent worked out. It should've worked out. The guy has all of the ability in the world. I didn't i still would have made that trade today booking back like yes of course yes you make that trade he has you know what the scariest thing kaneta number one. Michael pineda worked out the best out of any of those yet. That's crazy you're right sunny gray. I made that trade again to a no-brainer gave up for sonny gray was nothing. James capri leeann. Is he still playing baseball. I know i'm being facetious for her player and fowler. Right point is i would do that again. i would. i would do that again. Brian cashman would do that again as well. Just it sucks that all of the guys that he has gone after have not worked out and it's not because they necessarily miss identified talent. It's that in sunny grace case they misidentified personality fit in new york in michael pineda's just hit the way that they handled it as well. Because you know at this point it's impossible to not say the rothschild and the way that they approached the whole sunny gay sunny gas sunny dre project was was wrong right like they had roy the whatever the the communication between them the the game plans all the approach was just wrong. It was wrong but at the same time. The player can't just completely full correctly. There's fault on both sides pineda. You could look at and and say yet you. You could identify that one as a as as a miss there were some injury. They're you know what i actually think. That's a successful trade especially considering what. He's montero us picking michigan guys. Yeah he stored ice cream sandwiches as third base coach. That guy just completely fell apart. At least michael pineda made starts for you. Yes when you but also he's just montero was like the the guy's really hard to gauge. What kind of a prospect. He actually was understanding that he was the yankees number one prospect for long time but he was on. He was decently ranked within major league baseball. I know he was a big prospect. He was a big prospect Just did not work out. He was he was always going to be an offense a guy not really a catcher. Yes he of like gary sanchez. before gary sanchez. he was more heightened. Gary sanchez was he's just not a lot of fanfare man. You we he was supposed to be like. I guess because there was literally nobody else that we were just like. Oh my god has used montero's actually can actually hit the ball like he came up and actually makes contact. And we haven't seen that from a yankees prospect in rob schneider now. This was before rob schneider. I know i'm saying he was the the contact guy the four contact. I do remember the game. He hit two opposite. Field home. runs at yankee stadium. It was late in the season. I wanna say like two thousand eleven. And i was like. Oh my god. The yankees just found their next catcher for a decade. Yeah well i mean you. You'd make that statement after Early success and you see the guy going deep. He was hyped for it but didn't have the The wolves to to to make it in the major leagues. But yeah so look you going. After a guy like steel. Or i wouldn't be surprised. If if cashman's just scouring the league right now looking for controllable controllable players and going after that trade because they do have the trade pieces to make a deal. Your company salary cap is probably tighter this year. Which means you can't afford to miss a new hire. Every person you add needs to fit just right indeed helps you hire great people faster indeed dot com hiring site that helps you find quality candidates instantly with indeed instant match. This allows you to get to the good stuff faster. 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What do what are they capable of pulling off understanding their goal of staying under the luxury tax with before spring training or before the season starts. So we're talking about the full salary. Yeah who knows what they're going to be going to do. Midseason that's going to the season and how it's progressing and along the season is all that kind of stuff is is going to factor into midseason acquisitions. I'm talking about now as we sit here. It's january nineteenth. Spring training is supposed to start mid february and then the season is supposed to start april. First what can they realistically do in that time to improve this team even more because this team as it stands right now is not good enough to win a world series. The team at the beginning of last year at this time was better than the team this year. Well it was better on paper. It was so what we're talking about. All we do is on paper but james paxton was a guy that we were looking at his getting excited about potential because he got injured but the the on paper. There are different things so on paper. Yes when we see the names. We're like okay. We can get excited about that. That's that's a better team because that is what it is on paper but when you're looking at what the yankees have right now. It's just they haven't been in this type of position because there's a lot of what ifs but also they're not injury. What if there are those two but there are young guy. What if on the pitching side and we just haven't been in that situation in a while we're counting on you know a good amount of young guys to to to come out and pitch and i think that that's a better unknown then. Then the injury side of things grated. Injuries can happen to anybody but the ability to be a number three guy. We haven't seen anything from him As far as the potential we've seen him flash that's to me is a A more optimistic upside a more optimistic uncertainty then Going into the season with you know a guy. That's like corey kluber. Who we've seen it before. But if he can pitch for long enough time for even get close to that. The last time the yankees went into a season with this many question marks as far as young guys go in a rotation was two thousand and eight when they went into a rotation with a young phil hughes a young java chamberlain and a young in kennedy and that didn't work out too. Well not saying this is going to be a repeat of two thousand eight. Our hope not because they didn't make the playoffs in two thousand eight but you cannot just. You can't even assume one of them is going to pan out. Well i think jordan. Montgomery is is if we're talking about him and lumpy him into that category he's loving him in. I'm not saying you're good with jeff. Montgomery as as a guy that we depend on. Yes a two years out from tommy john. I'm confident that jordan. Montgomery can give you a very very solid season and you can rely on him to be a very steady three four in the rotation. He's not going to be a number two though right. Yeah i mean sure. That's fine okay. So then were looking at the back right now and Garcia schmidt are the two young question marks. And i think schmidt is even more of a question mark in garcia just because he's not really pitched in the major leagues based on skills. What do you know you mean based on skills. I mean coming up and what we've seen of him. So far david garcia. You know there are people that are would say that. You know durability is a concern for him sure. But i saw i saw with my own eyes. Pitch good major league starts. I saw that. Yes we haven't seen clark do that yet right so it was really doesn't vacuum m- be good. But yes until. Clark schmidt pitches on a major league mound a good start. That's a that's a huge unknown. Sure okay at least every garcia can take a a handful of of regular season starts last year into next year as building blocks. Clark schmidt is starting from from the ground floor trying to work up. Debbie garcia's a couple of steps ahead of him. I don't mind that because if he's just not that good Then you know we have time to figure it out especially with young guy and we know he's got good stuff we know. Aircraft was just gushing over the two of them both of them being major league. Ready gushing gushing. Gotta love erik kratz. But i'm not so sure. I could trust his opinion because i just feel like he's i love everybody kinda guy and no matter what. He's going to have a nice thing. He's going to have positive things to say about everyone. He meets cortra- bet has has risen the ranks. He's overcome the injury. He's proved that he's healthy. It does feel like this is the year for him to take the step like now's the time he's done. He's done what they needed him to do in the minor leagues. He's proven that he can come back healthy and and be that you know stable guy in a rotation. He just needs it. Now do it on the the major league level. And there's a skill level thing there and i think the yankees believed that he has the ability the skill level for his pitching those numbers to translate into the major leagues. And maybe he gets off to a rocky start. But if we're looking at a guy like that who's staying healthy running the course getting out up throwing six innings. I'm fine with being patient with him. If we're going to be patient with corey kluber on an innings from an innings perspective. We should be. We should be patient from a youth's perspective with With clarkson david garcia. Here's they're gonna be bumps but we yeah did definitely patients eighteen months and they're no longer rookies. You let them go through garcia's not a rookie. Whatever to close amuse next year but yeah you let them go through their growing pains. Sure that's fine. Because i think you can still win regular season games with that. My concern again. Goes back to the playoffs because i don't care about the regular season anymore but the concern because you haven't seen it that's it that's it it's just 'cause you haven't seen it from those guys. That's it yeah. It's not the fact that we want a young guy to be good and we want a young guy to take next level and we want a young guy to have the opportunity to take it and now they have it. Here we go. Let's go do i do. I work the because we haven't seen it. But do we want to be impatient for for maturity to happen and for them to actually figure things out and go through the motions there or do we have to like some through four innings. Five innings of corey kluber three runs. Because that's what we're going to see which is worse all day long. I'll take the young guy. I'm fine with having a couple young guys that you roll the dice with and see what you can get on the upside. But when you don't have steady guys other than one pitcher garrett cole that's a huge concern everyone else is a roll. The dice they have four. Roll the dice pitchers in their starting rotation of five. Am i respond to that is i. Don't see anybody on the on the market. Not named trevor bauer. That's gonna come in and alleviate those concerns that's where we know there were probably guys so i think a mistake was not going harder after landslide overtures that would fit in. We agree with the luxury tax. He was making ten million dollars. This year you just don't pay corey. Kluber his eleven million. And you get lance lynn. I'd much rather have that and give up prospects. Yeah so you're trying to win a world series. I i agree with you. I thought was a perfect fit for this roster. He's a perfect fit. He's adorable. I we know what he is. He smells like hotdogs. It's a good deal for the new york yankees. That that kind of guy you can rely upon. That's a hawse. Give me that guy. He doesn't have to be the number one. You know one of the best pitchers in baseball which he was showing last year but he can do years in a row. He was showing. He can show that. He's you know a good pitcher a two three guide. That's that's what you would need him to be in this in this rotation and he fits that beautifully and if you get more than that great and that's a guy who showed it recently so yes. I do agree with that. I think that's that's one of the miss on on their end. Although you could argue that cashman did identify that talent correctly the first time and then and then screw it up. And then he wasn't sticking to his guns with it. I guess who got fooled andrzej happen the hell knows. That's i can't go back down that that path but there's nobody else today. Taiwan walker is not gonna make me feel better no but also the padres traded for joe musco flake yesterday trademark and. I'm talking with the free agency. Market the trademark shakey's heavy. Why aren't the yankees more active on the trade market. Maybe maybe to your point that maybe cashman is a little gun shy in that and they're just identifying these situations and i don't know talent they don't agree with what was given from us growth that they didn't want to go to that level or they don't have. I don't know what the reasons are. It's clearly there are attached. I'm sure cashman's having conversations with gm's that are making these guys available and for whatever reason whether it's a deal it's not as good or they don't believe in the player they're not there so you got to believe that that they're this castio. Rumor mill has some some legs to it. Right there smoke. There's usually fire so there were conversation. Come back around. it could come back. I until the playoffs are so far away but we sit here today. It's not even february and we know the yankees don't have enough pitching. Maybe that'll change between now tober but if it doesn't change between now and october we're going to be sitting here seven months from now talking about the same shit. The same thing that bit keeps biting this team in the ass year after year. Why do they keep getting bounced from the playoffs. Because they can't make contact enough and because they don't have any starting pitching your after year after year. Do you see an opportunity. Here where the yankees identify the fact that they can't stay under the tax threshold and then make a move. Or because let's say that let's say for instance if they if they were to trade. Clint frazier for A louis castio or another player. Like louis castio right now. You have avoid in left field. You can do one of two things you can stay under the luxury tax gogi brett gardner and have him platoon out there again. With whoever talk men and you know enter player here you can. You can do that right. Your offense will still probably be good. Your defense will be a be fine with with garner or you. You could go after you know a couple of guys that are still on the mark. There's george springer still out there Your boy branly still out there who would fit that beautifully and this team beautifully. So there's there's opportunities still to go over the tax threshold to make the team better. Do you think they're willing to do that. No because i think that's what if they were willing to do it they wouldn't have signed. Dj lemay who to six years part of kluber deal with the eleven million is making me think that maybe maybe for the right opportunity that they would cause they're why do you even bother signing. Dj mayhew to six years. That's not a smart. If you don't care about going over the luxury tax now you do not want to have to pay him. Fifteen million dollars in two thousand. And i told you this is a matter for four years or six years you just. He doesn't have to play if he's not good at that point. Like who cares. You're still paying. You're just eating fifteen million dollars on your luxury tax in two thousand and twenty five. I still believe that the the deal is spread over six years. But that's not based on the total amount less. I if if dj said no. I'm not doing six years. The deal would probably be pretty damn close to four or five years. Same amount of money. I don't think the money would have changed too much very involved with the way that it's spread out very very conspicuous that his deal lines up so they were able to add corey kluber and still be just under the luxury tax. This you cannot tell me. This is not premeditated. No i look. I think that's that's a very huge possibility. My thing my other side playing devil's advocate to look at another opportunity here because that's what we're doing is saying publicly the don't want to handcuff themselves that much by signing corey kluber a guy who just came off of a shoulder. Injury hasn't pitched in two years and is gonna be thirty six years old. Hopefully they didn't just handcuff themselves. Because of that role of the dice with an old man so back in two thousand seventeen the yankees did not want to pull the trigger on justin verlander. Because one of the reasons was because they didn't want to take on his salary and they wanted to eventually reset their luxury tax. I don't know if they will be that gun shy again this year. If there's a move where they could add just money and get a really quality player to add to a world series run. However i don't expect them between now and the start of the regular season to add payroll to what they currently have. I think they're going to try and subtract payroll okay. that's possible. I mean. I think it seems like they. They made their to moves and A barring trade which doesn't add payroll in my opinion the way that the the the type of player they're gonna go after is not really going to add payroll in fact it might reduce it depending on who. You're getting rid of right not a lot but some of the arbitration numbers mean if you got rid of frazier. He only makes two point. One million dollars voice could be a trade kennedy. He makes four point seven million dollars. Yup so i mean you're looking at those guys. As probably the ones that that i would i would circle or shell said gio a shallow but i would much rather trade lou voight the jewish shell at this point. I don't think your shell has much trade value to be honest. But he's a good player on your team but it's not like a big not be trade. I don't think that value actually trials void for or neither voight or shall have good trade value void a little bit more but but yet the Especially if there's a d. h. i generally don't have good trade value. That said there's just a lot of money to be shed so not there. What are you gonna do eat half of atom out of the nose contract. Wouldn't you rather just see if he can turn into another equality reliever again like because they also need bullpen help. It's not like this team is stacked in the bullpen anymore. They'd kind of have gotten thinned out in the bullpen. A little bit. Chapman's a year older britons a year older chad greens. A your older. They lost time kaley they have. They lost jonathan holder. Some may say by subtraction. I do think you're talking about johnny lasagna. How can you be bridge guy. Johnny lasagna be a swing. Man can can Louis a man michael king bia swingman but if their plan is still for five innings out of your four out of your bullpen. I don't know if that's gonna hold up of a season. It has never held up for house. Smells can hold up with one. Less bullpen are so. I think there's definitely some opportunities on the car racer that they're gonna fill. I i think that there. I don't think that they see the bullpen as a major place that they have to improve. I think i don't think it's a major recess. I think he'd take us up. I think he's been a much better than any fan in ever will give him credit for. I think that they They also i think nick nelson showed pretty well last year and i could see him taking another step up i. I think that they are going to look at him and give him an opportunity. The wiser they've really got to figure out whether it's you know him limiting the two two innings the him going one inning. I think that that's exactly what they should do. One inning guy. Perfect three pitches. Maybe just two pitches and go out there and dominate and then mingle hormones. Another guy. Potentially where you could see him coming out of the bullpen. So i want you to. I want to before we wrap up. our Was really focused on the kluber news for this episode i wanna do one mailbag question and it kind of talks about what we're doing right now with the rotation and the bullpen is from andrew sharrock from fairfax virginia. Set by. You know these got he says. Hey guy i thank god. Dj l. m. is going back to the bronx longtime listener. First-time mail bagger. I was reading an article on the athletic about d h two point. Oh the double hook jayson stark dubbed it. The rule would attach the spot in your lineup with your starting pitcher so a team would lose the d. h. When they take out their starting pitcher my two twofold question for you is one. Do you think this would be good for baseball. And fix some of the concerns over pitcher use and to do you think this will change would benefit or hurt the yankees. I think this would bring a ton of excitement to the game and bring back the importance of the starting pitcher and keep teams like tampa from using an opener. Three times per rotation. This is a rule that nfl teams would love. Alexxa would hate. But i think it would strike a compromise to see the d. h. In both leagues as well as maybe see a pitcher consistently pitched three times through. The order is for the yankees. Actually think this rule would be terrible at the moment. They're the only starter we have that we can trust pitch fast past the fifth inning is garrett cole all i can see with this rule are four to five days where stanley gets up bats because the soft tissue injuries are too great of a concern to play him in the field and guys like clark schmidt michael king are not going to give seven innings consistently in twenty twenty one. So i think is great ruled for baseball but terrible short term for the yankees. I think he nailed it. As far as it's good for the yankees. But i would actually a really intrigued by this rule this is a good little deviation from from what we've been thinking about here by How to fix baseball. Yeah this is interesting. So who did this jayson. Stark jayson stark lucia by him. To be honest. I don't know but you have a h. To start the game but as soon as you're starting pitcher comes out of the game you lose the designated hitter so your options are have the pitcher hit or do double switches for the rest of the game. Which is what they would end up doing. But it's still a deterrent from taking your starting pitcher out a double switch for the rest of the game it's You lose the. Oh yeah it is so you. You have to remember time. The pitcher comes up. You would have to double switch. Yeah that's super interesting I don't i don't hate it. The first is the first time i've heard it and i kinda like it. To be honest it does give you the the designated hitter in both leagues. I could see the national league people being okay with this because it's it's you know giving them an element of Still making those changes theoretically. We don't have to look at pitchers hit. We didn't want to write. There's an option here and there is bringing a lot more strategy into the playoffs and taking guys out. Just can't do it. You know at the drop of a hat like everybody does now. So i actually really liked this a lot and i do agree that it's shitty for the yankees because the way that their roster is stacked out right now on the pitching side on the rotation side specifically it's not good not good No sacrifice that in the short term to get this rule into baseball. I don't think they can do it immediately. Because i think this changes the way a roster is put together so i think this would be something that would be another one of these tests in the minor leagues if minor leagues are a thing anymore and then and then you know implement a year or two down the line. Because you definitely have to make adjustments for something like this you could change the complexion of roster could. Yeah another way instead of instead of just getting more starting pitchers that go deeper into games. You could just say we're going to have benched players that can hit more so we're basically going to pinch hit every time the pitcher comes up and still clint freight air In wwe for the tyler. Wade yeah yeah. There's opportunities there you'll have guys stole that your bench players will maybe not be as defensive. Maybe not as many defensive prowess guys out there because they're gonna hit once again. Rob center bill to get back in the league. This might be his opportunity here. He could do both great. He's loving this. So i i like it it's intriguing. It is of the newest baseball little tweaks that we've heard over the past couple years. I feel like this is by far the best. Because i haven't immediately shut on it or been been offended by it or like hated it. It feels like baseball. It does feel like baseball. It feels like a like a natural type of move that is blending rate now. Managers are like. Oh he's at eighty five pitches in the third time through. The order is coming up. Pull no questions asked but this would add some doubt to that decision. Yeah no i like it. I liked that wrinkle. I like the fact that they would have to think about that twice. And not just because there's a a brick wall at you know. Seventy five pitches. Eighty pitches whatever it is or x amount of times through the rotation earth through the lineup. Then they have to go. This definitely adds another wrinkle to especially in tight games especially deeper into the season when dr lori appplications There's a lot more strategy. And i i like it. I like a lot but you know what this would probably never get past because there will will argue. Oh this is no good for player health. Why someone that that throwing more these guys being conditioned to throw them remorse actually very good ver- for player health rather than arguing with that. I just think that's not the trend of a british adding d. h. So it's adding jobs you'll probably in this case order will probably add roster spots to. I would assume well you had roster spots than that doesn't really help the rule because then you can just add more bench players and get around this whole thing and just pinch hit every time it still another tweet to it. I mean i. I don't think that they would keep the. I think they would have to expand the active roster by by the twenty sixth man who would stay. What staying anyway. It's going to stay forever. Because they stuck all this shit and twenty twenty. You know that that is the biggest. That is the biggest fraud of this whole thing. They stuck all the shit under our noses while we were staring at it saying that they're under our noses all set it at the target results talking about it in a collective fan base of baseball fans. Yes we were. That was one of the first things i said was watch out there trying to implement this stuff now so they can keep it here forever. It's never going to go away. There's a precedent. That's what's happening. So yet i could see something like this happening because twenty six spans probably gonna stay forever while we have a couple of minutes. I'll do the next mailbag question. But i do like that. That little wrinkle rule from stark So thanks andrew for the question. This from daniel amazing news to wake up to an australia this morning. With dj and then kluber signings course of yankee's history second base has argued arguably been our weakest position For an all time legends. Point of view considering. Dj will now likely be an eight plus year yankee. How many more seasons will he needs to stay as a primary second baseman. And what would his production need to be to be considered for an all time yankees team at second base willie. Runoff gets no respect. I swear to god. He's disrespected more than any player. Giovanni the hall of fame not named bernie williams. That's that's within relative recent history of of right off still around the organization. For god's sakes guys guy just gets shit on he was a he was a coke. It was technically a captain of the new york yankees and he gets shut. Yeah i think he's just unfortunately the bulk of his career case in the eighties. So just that's the forgotten decade unfortunately especially of recent memory because the yankees won every decade except the eighties. That's a unless you thousand tenths deal may who has the opportunity to cement himself on that on that that the big board of second basement no doubt and potentially a top especially if he wins the championship He's that type of player. And i do think that these numbers are going to translate over over the years even as he gets older. You know obviously maybe not to this extent. But i think there's a hundred times. His game plays even when you get old the way that he plays. I could see him doing well as he ages. Say he plays the rest of this contract and four three out of the six years. He's still great production and then he you know he teeters off in the second half of the contract but the yankees do win a world series over the next six years and dj lemay who is a valuable member of that team. I think we'll look back at him in twenty years. Kind of like the way we look back at tino martinez right now. And that. Sort of vein. Maybe i mean he. He's latino one. Immediately tino was a different type of player because of the way that he came over one and whom he was replacing. I think there's a big difference. They're placing anyone so he we all love tino. Tinos unanimously loved among yankees fans. We're never going to say he's like the all time yankee. He's not the all time. Great yankee first baseman. He's not the best yankee of the nineties or the early two thousands. And i think that's how lemay he will be i i i'm greatest but dj lemay putting up numbers if he puts up similar numbers for three more years. That's five finishes top three. Mvp for the next three straight years. That's different but frankly. I don't expect him to do that. I mean i started going to be good but not top three. Mvp okay fine but similar. No i i don't see him tearing off too much i think he's gonna put up very very good numbers for at least the next three years and then i don't think the number you know in years beyond three are going to be bad. I just don't think they're probably going to be good. I mean at some point. Yes is going to get a little slower. He's not going to be the same type of guy. But i think the way that he plays in the the motions that he goes through the stance the the type of swing that he has the way he purchased a game like that can translate so i think he definitely has the opportunity if they win the world series. That's a key piece of this. He has to win if he does win. And he's a key contributor and he puts up these types of. Yeah he's going to be up there with the greats there's no doubt but he's what is interesting. What you said about tino and the comparison there. He's coming over an interesting time. In the way that the yankees haven't won in a while and are looking to take advantage of these Of the young guys that are on the team. It's a little two years later. So if he were to win that first year that would probably be a better cop but he still among these. These guys have the ability to win so he could still move this yankees team Into if they win a championship into another conversation of great yankees teams. Yeah i was just trying to think of who from the nineties dynasty was on the team. That like you're it's impossible to find a yankees fantas. That'll say something bad about the player but he's also not unanimously thought of as the greatest player on the team and that's why i landed on tino keno yet. I mean paul. O'neil is kind of in that same in that. Same realm to know paul on your his love. Paul o'neil i think though had a greater impact on the franchise then tino martinez did yet. It's i mean they're both core guys but o'neill's heart and soul guy to his whole neal. Was there also during the come up yours. Yes and he he He was traded by. Roberto for roberto kelly. Who is their center fielder and poland. Joe torry talked about the fact one of the reasons. Derek jeeter was not named captain before two thousand three is because polo neal. Was there for most of the time and and polo neal was in that clubhouse as almost like an unofficial captain so actually the timeframe does work better to pollen. You'll comp because he was there before they started winning we did he get there in ninety four ninety eight. Ninety three was first year now four. He won the batting title. Yeah and then. Obviously he was true when you look at the time. Hold on ninety four short season. Who who wow. We just did this. I think i think i think this is a great call. You actually think about this. I just fall in my all time favorite player and i mean dj limit. He was trending in that direction is not he is just needs to start kicking water coolers and stuff he see him doing the same emotional guy. I mean we've seen him get fired up after a big hit what he does is. He brings that level to the team at everybody every level up because of it one whether he's doing with the bat or an o'neill's knocking out water coolers behind the actually lineup. Yeah he does things equally as as awesome in the sense that the entire team will be taking a picture on an airplane and digital may. Who's was not in the picture. Because he's in the back. The plane studying game footage. Yeah so there's just different ways of showing it. I think you nailed it with that Polio comp as long as dj continues production for the foreseeable future and does not fall off a cliff which. I definitely do not expect to happen. Hey maybe we were a little down on this corey. Kluber signing overall. I'm happy that they took the gamble. I just don't think that this you can say this gamble. Means their rotation is now in a good shape. 'cause i don't think that's the case i agree with that. I'm still i. You know when i saw it i was like okay. Good good like. I would rather do it than not do it. I guess sure. And i don't want it to be a deterrent from going after somebody else. I just don't see that person who were now being deterred from i. I don't see who that is like it does. There's not a glaring person. It's like okay now. We can't go after him because we signed corey kluber like it doesn't really matter as much to me unless we're getting a couple pieces that are more of like a depth thing and then you know what i don't care that much because we have kids for depth and i'm okay with that because they're highly skilled kids they're not just like random kids that are stretched fringe guys like these are top prospect kids. That can absolutely take another another step so do you do you remember. I believe it was two thousand. Twelve and corey kluber was a rookie. I want to confirm. It was his rookie season He was pitching for the cleveland baseball team. And it was in cleveland and he hit derek jeter and the head converter that i forgot about that. Now yet. you're saying ring. A bell. But i forgot about it So why did he do. His wasn't on purpose. It was just. It was son of a bitch so two thousand twelve was his rookie year. He made twelve starts. He actually pitched in two games in two thousand eleven. I'm i'm pretty sure it was two thousand twelve that he was making a start for cleveland in cleveland against the yankees and he hit derrick jeeter in l. Try and find the video in tweet that out Anyway that's it for this episode. Scott might be back later in the week to do another quick episode. That's td follow us on twitter at a podcast and we will be talking about that. Maybe a live show upcoming. Thanks daniel and andrew permitting those mailbag questions scott any last words. No i think. I just talked myself again into feeling better about the team. Walking into the The the season so by the time spring training starts. You're gonna talk yourself into a world series. Victory like world series favorites by the time spring training starts. The dodgers still exist in the padres yet. Another toddler everyday loading up. Yeah so that that's going to be a bloodbath for for those too even though it won't matter until the playoffs because everybody makes the playoffs but yeah it'll be interesting man and i. I am feeling better about this team as we go on. And maybe that's just. Because i really just want real baseball and like normalcy and it's just I'm i'm i'm happy to see that. And the fact that i love i love seeing the kids. Come up through the organization and pitch like that's fun. That's exciting for me i. I'm looking forward to that fair enough. Talk to you guys next fiscal. Hey guys thanks for listening to the bronx pinstripe. Show make sure you find us an idea and subscribe. She didn't get all new episodes directly onto your phone. 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Yankees Streaking, Cole/Higgy Personal Catcher, Playoff Bubble Format

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Yankees Streaking, Cole/Higgy Personal Catcher, Playoff Bubble Format

"We are breaking down all aspects of Yankee Baseball. This is the Bronx Pinstripe show with your host age Rotundi and Scott Ryan. Let's go. What's up everyone welcome to the Bronx Pinstripe show episode. Four hundred seventy eight K. BY INDEED DOT COM online and my favorite t shirt I new favorite t shirt cuts clothing Scott we're recording this. It's the what is it the eighth inning of Wednesday night's game it's another blowout not GonNa put up twenty tonight but it doesn't matter when Gert Kohl's pitching like that. Yes. The bottom of the seventh tyler base again again, don't don't look now, but there's a hot streak happening. Hot Streak with this team, they're doing a lot of things right and. It's really the offense. This week has been insane off the blue, Jays pitching twenty runs than eleven plus whatever they end up scoring on. Wednesday. But you look back to a week in buffalo when the turnaround happened Debbie Garcia goes out there and shoves for seven innings and game they absolutely needed and it's the starting pitching is the reason why this team is winning every night. They're getting good starting pitching. It's not as doesn't take a genius to figure out why the baseball teams winning Oh starting pitching, going deep into games, not giving up a lot of runs. That's usually a recipe for good things. You know it's pretty funny because I think either last episode or the one before that one of the things that was called out by yours truly was. The team while they may be getting healthy on the offensive side nothing is really going to happen on the pitching side of the ball and. There's no there's no people coming in. There's none of these like there's not a guy who's who's GonNa come back and save the day because as we've heard. Paxton. is due to be damn close. Hegi just hit another home run. Three three home runs on the day. That's your. Personal Catcher. Gosh she. Okay. Good. Bye Gary Sanchez poor garrison. Today you will hear later in the show because we recorded the first half of this before the game that we're talking about heggers should Hegi. Gosh she oak she oak come in and the Yankees grooming him and seeing what he's gotten doing. Oh, by the way he hits home runs to. My God. What did you? Ask. ME. I don't remember I think your point was that nothing? He doesn't I. Know The you're saying the offense is struggling and they're going to guys back but it. was. Coming there was the pitching. Round though. Right. The pitching was just going to have to pitch better for the team to win. Yeah and that's what's happening there. They're pitching better and they and David Garcia came up and has been just you know a godsend for from a from Yankee Heaven's like saying here. Here you go. Here's your pitcher. Put The put this guy in your rotation he's going to be nasty and it's exactly what they needed i. You could really attribute a lot of this. You know to David Garcia catalyst. I think you're right Kohl's had probably the two best pitching performances of the last week, the shutout versus the the the orioles in tonight's game. He took a no hitter into the sixth inning, but you're right none of that really happens unless. They have Garcia to come in and just sort of. What's the word I'm looking for? He kind of just calm things down from turning really snowballing and turning into a disaster because someone other than Garrett Cole needed to step up. For this team to do to do something to sorta take a breather to just get a win under its belt like it's crazy that that's all it took is it just took a win in and it seemed like this team was off to the races. But Even, before Garcia's outing on the third game in Buffalo, I mean hap- did pitched good is in that game on last Tuesday the Yankees just didn't score any runs I mean it's it's funny how the kid is the one who comes up. And sets the tone sets the calmness for the the Yankees stimulate you know what? This is okay like I can I can do this I can come up and do this and and and the rest of the the rest of the roster really just took to it. You know. I think it did take them to to get to the the absolute rock bottom for to for them to realize pull the you know pull their ass out of their for their head out of their ass brass in their head whereas. It was basically the same thing that time so. If you can't tell Scott Nar to stumbling around with our words because we're both trying to tweet about Cuyahoga she. Oh. I'm putting the phone down but we we have to talk about the fact like this is the thing we kind of talked about it. Maybe being a thing on last episode I said if he catches Gert Coal again in his next start a thing and even boone was asked about it in pre game and he didn't call it a thing, but he didn't not call it a thing. But here's the thing this dude hitting the ball to one night i. mean it's one night but it's you know it's you're looking at Gary Sanchez walking in with eight home runs you know being the power guy that's the production is he just had three tonight. So I'm just saying he's hitting home runs, aircrafts guys out from his knees what's left the but to put together their combined to. Form the good Gary Sanchez and the bottom line is if Garrett Cole didn't have good game on the mound tonight, it doesn't matter if hideous hitting three home rights. True. The point is that Garrett Cole is pitching like Houston Garrett Cole. UNHITTABLE. Filthy ace when he's thrown to Kyle. SHOKA. That is the reason why it's a thing night because he's hitting home run I'm just saying it's supporting it and. I know. I know. Okay. This is exactly what I was saying this exactly what I was saying Gary Sanchez struggles. Defensively blocking the ball getting on one knee dot being over the get up. If you don't think that that guy also has problems calling a game. You've got another thing coming to you 'cause he's not preparing other ways. How do you know he's not gonNA prepare I i. just. Don't have the confidence I have a guy who is You know as as dead serious about a sport as anybody as Garrett Cole is about him going out to that amount just a mentality. I'm not even talking about like just like the preparation the guy puts in the work. When there's another person who is just not on the same level of of that grind, then there can be a problem and. You know maybe there were potential there. There were opportunities when Kohl was just. He didn't shake him off. He given the benefit the doubt bad pitch bad pitch bad things happened and he just had enough and instead of crying to the media like everybody wanted he said it in a closed door meeting and this is the result Hagi for the last three games. Well, it's hard to. It's hard to criticize coal if he's going to pitch like that because if he's going to pitch like that, it does not matter if you have to have a hole in your lineup or two or three or four holes in your lineup because he's pitching like the best pitcher and there are no holes that guy just hit three home runs tonight. Okay but. I know you're not gonNA get three home runs out of Hagi on a consistent basis. The whole argument against a personal catcher is if you have to take a bat out of the lineup to do it well, then that pitcher better go out there and shove. So of course, going to go out there and shove then fine have hagi personal catcher, but I think what it re. This is now the second place that Garrett Cole has needed a personal catcher because he needed Martinez Maldonado in Houston. Okay. So I understand that maybe Gary Sanchez is not as good. A game caller as higgins could possibly be, but this is the second location and I don't know what the situation was with Garrett Cole in Pittsburgh but this is now the second location two years in a row that Garrett Cole has required a personal catcher I'm not going. Not Going on the path of looking for that there this is this is where it needs to. What you? How do you go down that path? Because all you need to do all you need to do is look at Gary Sanchez this year's production it's more based on that than anything else. So you're saying if Gary Sanchez was hitting two seventy five right now and a twelve home runs that this that would not be catching derek cold the last three games correct. That's exactly what I'm saying. That's exactly what I'm saying if you didn't have catcher in Houston I might agree with you but he did you cannot I'm happy right now I am not going on this about you can was the only path to go decimate. You cannot have a personal catching situation when there's no starting catcher deserves field I'm sorry air fair with every. Three but Houston didn't have who the other guy on. What happened in Houston it doesn't matter to me there. They didn't have a guy that was like a mainstay behind the behind the exactly bright. Point. No. That was two thousand seventeen. It doesn't but there was no mainstay. So it's not like there was a citation. Yes. Okay. I I. Know I know there was you're you're looking for something that's not their. Robinson Torino's. I understand but the Yankees in an ideal world Gary Sanchez is the mainstay. He is the number one catcher. Okay and then you have a backup catcher for one out of five days not the same day every five days one out of five days day game after game, Guy, needs a needs a breather. That is what the Yankees ideal scenario for their catching situation is because Gary centers should be a mainstay. He's not this year I. Get it. That's it. That's it. But. That's but that's the thing like you. You can't go beyond that. That's my point. For right you just can't go beyond that. I. Have a hard time not going beyond that because I know you do not have a very difficult time that going. But what I'm trying to say there's there's just nowhere to go. There's nowhere to go because he's not producing. He's not playing well anywhere on the field. So. Why not give the opportunity to another guy who potentially could take it and and and I'm not saying. Or my is I'm not saying by any means that Gary Sanchez should be out there catching Garrett cool. If you're going to get this kind of performance yes you put Hagi back there if he's comfortable but going forward I if you have to have nine years of a personal catcher for coal that that could be an issue. It might be more of an issue when he's not pitching as great when Randy Johnson required John flair to be the personal catcher was out there with a four point eight, five year right? It's a problem. It's not a problem when you're out there shoveling, but it might be a problem down the road. Okay. Maybe we'll. We'll address this next year when we look at him if there's a personal catcher situation. Gary Sanchez lighting it up not catching. Well, this is now two years in a row. He said a personal catcher. So I don't see why there wouldn't be a third year in a row the personal catcher Utah you know my feeling on person you need to let it go because this year is not even a personal catcher. It's just the best guys catching right now that's what's happening and the same thing. Should be able to get over it. I think I think that if they are having a problem with a guy, then they should they should talk about it and. Grind this is happening because will both all the praise and the Atta boys and the he's doing a great jobs from from coal about Sanchez told you. He's a goddamn professional starts he's a Goddamn Professional. That's that's it. So I don't really it doesn't matter to me of John Flaherty comes into the booth and catches Garrett. Cole. Garrett. Cole is the guy that's shoving things on the down the shoving the bat suddenly opponents. Throats it doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that Gary Century is not performing. That's really the reason why he's not out there and I think led into a- bled into. Not, going. Again, I'm not saying he can't call it again saying it's blood into it. Yeah. I understand that from batter from pitcher to Pitcher, it's going to differ because see south you talked about how he was on the same page with. Gary Sanchez from day one and it was never an issue. So if you're on the same page on the same page, I could see how Garrett Cole might require a little bit more homework from the catcher. He's that type of paper. I think he he's a perfectionist and he demands that the catcher probably knows all of the hitters, ins and outs the way Garrett. Cole knows them ins and outs, and maybe that's a problem with. Gary, Sanchez of course that could be a problem with Gary Sanchez, and if he is the better option right now, which he clearly seems to be then then then he is boone said, we'll see I think we've seen I think we've seen it's now Garrett. Cole is going to be pitching to Kyle Higashi Yoga I am confident in saying Gary Sanchez will not catch Garrett Cole for the rest of the season including the postseason Oh I bet it catches him the regular season one more time. Just to Piss only gonNA have. One. More start. Okay then it's probably GONNA be Hagi. Because, he would line up for two more starts but that second start would be against Miami and I can't imagine they would have him go out there against Miami if they have a playoff spot locked up and then risk not being able to pitch game one of the wildcard series. So if they continue to take care of business against Toronto moot point and yeah, he's going to be set up that's to the need to do. They just need to keep taking care of business here with with Toronto and and they'll being good w in good shape or that Miami will matter as much. Maybe Garrett Cole goes out there and that Miami series and pitches like twenty five pitchers just to get almost like open session a bullpen session one or two innings but but and maybe Gary Sanchez catches that but we all know that's not real account it. So it. Really does start with the pitching. No. Going back to Wednesday here here, the outings that they got Garcia seven innings to runs coal seven innings no runs Tanaka. Five innings one-run Montgomery five and two thirds. One run it was unearned. HAP- five innings one run Garcia seven innings, three runs, and then tonight coal seven innings. One run is he still in the game? You're the one watching the game but no LASAGNA's in. Perfect beautiful. Get them out. His pitch count was much more efficient. He was under a hundred pitches through seven innings. Tonight he was getting batters quicker a hidden strike as many guys out but he was still he was still unhittable. And I and to be honest with you I'm happy that the guy just got a leadoff single in the sixth inning we didn't have to worry about a potential no hitter deep into a game with a rising pitch count I understand no hitters can be fun. But That's not what we need right now. No Yeah. We don't need that. We don't need that kind of drama at all. No the no hitter doesn't matter to us right now we need him to To just to get his working, get the win and get in the clubhouse so that the Yankees could just keep moving forward I. don't want any I. Don't want any extra pitches thrown extra anything happening I just want these dress walking into the dugout. Nice and easy. you know towel off and and and you know sit down that's it. And in that in that twenty run outburst on Tuesday, you know what? I. Really. I took a head a clear takeaway early in that game when Fisher out there in right field is just miss playing ball after ball and there was a situation. Where the Yankees had only scored one run and tyler. Wade actually got two out single to give them a two one lead, and then the Yankees scored like five more runs after that. But if that game happened a week before that the Yankees score one run that inning after the two errors by the right fielder pronounce this sort of. Thing. The. Yankees squandered opportunities like that a week ten days ago for the past three weeks before that. But then last night, you saw total difference where the right fielder misplaced a couple balls out in right field. He looks like Clint Frazier Circa two, thousand nineteen against the Boston Red Sox and the Yankees just come bursting through the door. And I and this is this is a good thing when. They're making people pay, and that's that's a psychological thing to right because if you if you have a guy that's just playing terribly and it's just kind of he really look a lot like clint frazier out in right field from from last year I mean just some of the even the ball the went past him to the wall was just what's happening are there he is. So mentally gone but the take advantage of that and because they did, that's that's a nice little boost like understanding that you can take advantage of of opportunities when the other team you know shits himself not like. Not like Chapman but but. That was just you know that was just a race to the dugout but these guys you know they're right. Fielder is embarrassing himself out there but the acres taking advantage of it they're stepping on him, which is, which is fine. That's what they should do. They need to do that. Yeah. Yeah. It has been a home run barrage. I? Mean Lemay who hit. He hit the slowest. Hit a home run off. All Yeah. Trying to get this right it was a forty eight point seven mile an our pitch from Santiago espinel position player pitching alert, and it was the slowest homered against pitch in the pitch tracking era which goes back to two thousand eight. So he's up there in slow pitch softball and he takes one deep to left, and then tonight he's got the lead off home run to right and then another homerun to write down the field line again It's insane that forty eight point seven miles an hour i? Mean that's I'm I'm so glad that he hit that ball the way he did because he just like saw it halfway down he's like really Get Out of my face with this nonsense and just smoked it it was exactly what you would expect a professional baseball player to do with a just trash e first pitch. Well, it's thing. I'm not even given the consideration about it's just a ball. He just lobbed also remember the L. E. pitched to era hit to the moon. And a-rod saw the first one and he's like Oh. You're going to do that. You could try again this. Was All roy love in Texas. He definitely wasn't running up with the Yankees right and then he just hit one to monument park on the next one. Yeah. No, it's I'm glad he did it. I'm glad that DJ Lemay you just. Just test all over that ball. It made me very, very happy. the the other thing I won't talk about. So and Michael. cavs talking about this on the broadcast tonight. Where is Luke voight in the MVP conversation because he's now got nineteen home runs leads Major League Baseball. Nineteen home runs. If you average this out to a full hundred, sixty, two game season, he's unlike like a sixty two ish homerun pace, he's doing what judge was on pace to do. To get be judge on, you said Twenty home runs your bold prediction for Aaron Judge was twenty. He was if not for the injury he might have reached it he was working to. Destroy it. We're GONNA have voice with the twenty home. Yes. Someone's hitting twenty home runs. That's I mean. That's it goes to show you that your prediction as far as. Number of home runs leading the League was pretty accurate twenty I mean it might be twenty three or something like that. But low twenties is kind of where I think the leaders going to end up. Yeah and it's the reason why I I thought it was going to be in the twenties. One is the bad pitching towards the end of the season. This is going to happen like you have more people on there. There's GonNa be. The. One of the one of the predictions that wasn't a bold prediction but just kind of like saw in the. into the crystal ball of what was going to happen. 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA get a lot of minor leaguers in the last two weeks and you're going to see gotten so much because of seven inning doubleheaders and all this stuff we've. Seen a more the injuries I mean, the injuries are unprecedented with the with the they're on but but just like expanded and. The roster is the way that they are and just the the weird season kind of expected you know Lesser Lesser Than Major, League pitchers to be on there. So you see you see guys teeing off and that's happening. It is happening. So I wouldn't be surprised if someone you know went on a crazy streak and it might be void. Just to end the season two, so it could be. Twice. But again, it's not one of the pace is not sustainable over one, hundred, sixty, two games. That's the thing like I know about pace but it's just it's not sustainable when you're thinking about a third of the season because. You know you have you have all of the the wear and tear of the rest of that season to to lower the an an average out the account. Did you ever end up watching the boys of the boys of summer what the the documentary, the thirty for thirty on mcgwire and Sosa that was released like three or four months ago did you ever end up watching that dude I don't even remember I think I did. So Mark Maguire was talking about how hitting twenty five, thirty home runs over a fifty game span is doable. For any any player but it doable and he really talked about the grind of one, hundred, sixty, two season and you have to average ten home runs a month to reach Roger Marris in a normal season. He said that was the hard part. It wasn't hitting a bunch of home runs in a short period. It was hitting ten home runs month after month after me so it's like. And the reason he was able to do it and Sosa was able to do it because steroids you'll get tired in August when you're rooted out of your freaking mind. Yeah that that is one of the biggest one of the biggest things about the steroids that I think is a misconception is that people think and it makes us stronger makes you hit the ball further there's no doubt about it, but it's the recovery you recover that much faster. So now you're benefits the biggest benefit for sure and you're now in a position to go back out there you know feeling one, hundred, ten, percent every day and That does not happen in one, hundred, ninety, two games, and that's why you see guys. You know the norm certain to come back where you know after age thirty five, you start to see a decline, not not an increase in production you see a decline and it's it's usually usually at some point depending on the type of player pretty pretty pretty steep cliff. Well, that's why we talk later about Lemay Hugh in it if the Yankees are going to resign him but if a Yankees resigned him, that means he's going to be on the team past thirty five right and I'm fine I'm fine with digital. First of all STJ lament you he's a Golden God. He could do no wrong, but he's the type that. God type of player is important to to look at. In in that situation because I think Lemay who is the of guy who can stretch a career? He he just he plays in a way that I think can translate unless there were injury but he can get older and he can get older and still play like his game will will play even at an or it'll be diminish. But yeah, it's not going to be like once he was thirty five than his skill set is completely out he will still be getting babysits. Right he's not gonNA have the same quickness is not going to have the same bat you can play off but because apparently as we'll learn later in the show, you don't need to go left or right. Although Gio our guide Gio had a couple nice place tonight. Yeah. But so but yeah, Luke void hasn't had really a prolonged slump so far in this season. But if this were end of May or beginning of June and he had nineteen home runs, maybe he goes into a slump in July and then he so he's not gonNa Reset Sixty two home run mark that he's pace for. Yeah I mean. It's so so so answer the question, where do you think he is in the MVP conversation because you can see the leaders in the American League there there's a lot of players having great seasons in the American League on teams that are winning and going to go to the playoffs. Also teams that sock like Anthony Red, Dona, Mike Trout who are going to go to the playoffs like Mike Trout is always the MVP he's always the best player and it doesn't seem to matter that he's on the angels and less someone has an elite season like mookie Betts didn't two thousand eighteen will then might try it's not GonNa get it. Sort of how it's gone but this year might Chaz not even the most valuable player on his own team Anthony don't has. Him So far this is all based on war. I mean, it's all stats but it's organized. It's. Order by war and. Luke voight ranks fourteenth and a a big reason of that is because he's not going to get much defensive value. He's going to get negative defensive value and first base is a is not a position that that warrants, not warrants but rewards a lot of value. If you're a shortstop, you get an added defensive war because you play a more demanding position. That's why you see Tim Anderson who is having a great year he's having. You on the body tuttle last year. You know in a in an era that doesn't care about batting average, but he's again leading it. I think he was up ten points to Britain the game. Over over Lemay you he's having a hell of year. I could see him I see. Casey. Anthony Don winning this though I can't either and I think Ren and trout are GonNa Kinda steal votes from one another they're both having great statistical years. But then you've got the white sox are in first place and they have to baby three players that could warrant MVP votes. Okay. So they have Tim Anderson. Jose. Abreu and Louis Robert and then you've. got. The twins with Nelson Cruz. You've got the Indians with Jose Ramirez. You've got the raise with Brandon Lau you've got Linda on the Indians you've got then the Yankees Lemay. Hugh is the head avoid as far as war goes. So it's having a fantastic year but to say the thing is is when we're talking about Warren short season like this I mean the leader here Rangoon's two point four and then Voi- is at fourteen at one point five. You know your your condensing the the season. So now you're war differential is the differential is. I organized by no I'm just looking at the way that Bowie look at this. I mean look at some of the counting stats on like what did Jose Abreu he's sitting three, twenty eight. Okay. He's got a one, sixty, six WRC plus those are all better than that's better than than Luke voight, you've got you've got Nelson Cruz with sixteen home runs hitting three twenty three with a four thirteen on base percentage and the twins are going to go to the playoffs just like the Yankees voice everybody's GonNa stickiest. Void. Maybe the no. Not the not the voice having a fantastic year voight. Maybe you could argue has been the most valuable player on the Yankees because he has not gone on the I l. he's played through foot stuff and he's really carried the team when no one else was carrying them. But. I don't think he's really and the American league MVP. In fact, the American league MVP might be Shane Bieber who is having an all world pitching season yeah. No, it's. It's tough to put when especially when you see all these numbers that are so close to each other. It's going to. I don't even know how they're going to determine who's going to win because there's a lot of teams that have multiple guys up on this list that are at the top and they're going to cannibalize each other. So it's GonNa be interesting but again, most valuable player doesn't mean most valuable player. It means best player best player best offensive player in the League that's essentially what it is and not always though sometimes pitcher. I mean, it's it's just very rare. Verleger one at a few years ago. VPN Cy. Young I could see shame Bieber this year I think you could make an argument that a dominant starting pitcher has more impact on a team in sixty games than he doesn't one sixty two. Yeah. especially with the amount of games that they're playing if there were off days and and you know I don't know how many games he's pitch starts he's had but. You. Know we saw for for what? Like two weeks were Garrett Cole was pitching every game it seem like when the Yankees had an off day for whatever reason because of covid or earlier in the season you know. You're getting some of the top top tier guys now in an opportunity to win more games, and if you look at the percentage of you know just innings that they've been in play and had the affect on the game. Yeah. Yeah. I could see it this year where you have someone that has a higher impact yet. So shame bieber has pitched sixty four and two thirds innings and he has two point seven war the next highest pitcher in the American. League is Lucas Gio Alito Sixty and a third innings. So he's four innings more but he's got more war more strikeouts I'm basically more more everything than He's got also ten starts. Shane Bieber has ten starts out of sixty six is going to be out of sixty games. So he's going to have probably eleven if not twelve starts out of sixty games, I'm sorry you could be the MVP doing that yeah that's a lot. It's a lot. That's you compare. You just go percentage wise for the season. That's a lot. That is there's a lot of but yeah, and there's a lot of offensive guys who are bunched together. So there's there's there's not a lot of wrong answers in that list to shame bieber is striking out fourteen point two batters per nine as stupid and he's got a one point five, three era. Jesus they'd be these are Pedro numbers. This is Prime Pedro numbers from Shane Bieber. This year is that we're GONNA see from David Garcia Nature. Maybe an a lot of people are comparing calling them. Baby Pedro I mean don't set the kid up for failure or anything. Don't compare him to the best pitcher in the modern game ever he can handle it. Hopes that cool he's GonNa be the game three starter so he'd better be able to tell you I'm so excited for that. That's what gets me. That's what gets me going gets you through the watching watching the young kids come up and thrive. I love that David Garcia and the playoffs I'm here for that. The only pitcher there i. Can't be do you realize the only pitchers on the Yankees seven innings? This year are Garcia and J. Point Seven Innings Did. Don't don't don't don't. Sit there and tries you better if it didn't if you didn't talk shit against my boy who's come out and to tell you the truth, we're talking to David Garcia being the calming factor actually actually, J.? Second half of the weird season has been very good and and you know after a few bad starts and in the media and all this crap I was blaming him. He settled down. Key has absolutely settled down. Do you think it would be hypocritical for the Yankees to start to happen the playoffs after Skim in the regular season? So as option doesn't get picked up I mean hypocritical or I don't know if it's hypocritical but well. So do I mean I'd imagine he's going to file a grievance against the Yankees this there's going to be lot of grievances filed this season smashed the Yankees across baseball. There's going to be a backup I know it was determined he needed ten game and he's not going to get there but I'd imagine because the Yankees clearly did skip him he will file a grievance. I think he didn't really have. He doesn't have a leg to stand on because when the Yankees were skipping him, he couldn't get through the third inning without getting pulled from the game. He was pitching so bad. However, he's been pitching well of late, and if he gets a playoff start, I almost feel like that's in his favor in an eventual grievance. What do you think? So. So they would. They would forfeit one of their better pitchers that can go deep a game. Based on the fact that he would have a stronger case in an arbitration hearing or. No I'm not saying I'm not saying this sounds A. Kind of are saying that but what if? That's not a good look. We have Clark Schmidt come up and that's fine too. You know I'm good with that. I'll sacrifice sacrifice Ajay Start for Clark Schmidt dominant seven innings good with that too. And I mean, it seems we got the James Paxton update late after a late. Not late early before the game, tonight that he was transferred to the forty five day injured list and he won't be eligible to return until the second week of October, which means he's not going to be stretched out he. If he co I can't imagine they'd use them. I. CAN'T IMAGINE IT Adam to the playoff roster. No I mean but. I could also, well, I could see them. I could definitely see them. It depends on what they what he shows in those you know in in a short stint Rehab, whatever that looks like I think. If, he's throwing ninety seven miles an hour at the alternate site baby. But if he's still at ninety one, what's the point now if he's at ninety, if he's if he's if he's getting that thing, you know if he's getting the ball ninety, four, ninety, five miles per hour I, could see them using him in a bullpen situation. Maybe. I don't want him starting a game I. don't know he's not going to bloom even said who said he's not going to be strong now you believe. You believe okay. It's it's just a convenience factor at this point it really is well, I mean there's not really any. I don't know how you could. Misinterpret that the dude was put on the I l. even longer and won't be eligible to return until mid playoffs. I don't see how he will be stretched out. So I yeah, I believe on that one and he game updates you wanna tell me about this joe panic just hit if we were at this game to hit somebody right in the right in the hands with a with a home run to right field. That thing went into row seventeen into. Oh Five. What's the score now? Twelve thirteen to two. There's two outs in the in the ninth in this game is. So. I don't know I mean the standings I feel silly talking about the standings like who the Yankees are going to play in the playoffs because we just watching the t Tampa. They lost this afternoon yet but again, the Yankees will need to make up even the they have to finish one game ahead of Tampa. Yeah. Let's just keep it in the ball. They'll be three games back in Tampa after the win tonight but if the postseason started today, the Yankees would be playing the twins the first round. Did we did. We mention later in the show that we've already recorded. Did we mention that? Aaron judge is back because we haven't even mentioned that we mentioned that in every starting clip frazier's in left field made a nice play I play the game. Yeah. Second play of the game officials looking freaking writing the catch and we talk about. Police Clint Frazier going the opposite going going the opposite way just having that approach has has made him such a dangerous hitter. He's going to be such a pain in the ass out for for pitchers for a very long time with this approach because. The dude has the ability to smoke a ball. At any given point and now that he's going the opposite way if he's going opposite field, he's going right the right side. He's he's now a guy who can spray the ball with that that speed that dangerous. That's a really good thing to have on our team. Did you see the little clip that of coal talking to clinch frazier? I tweeted from I quote tweeted DILLARD. On Yankees podcast to look at it right now it's funny. You see it is very animated goes up to Clint Frazier Clint. Frazier looks it coal like looks up like Oh who's talking to me seizes Garrett Cole has a blank look on his face like piss myself like Oh my God what did I do wrong like the principles come in to talk to me and then he realizes Kohl's like praising him many starts to laugh. It's actually it's pretty funny. Yeah. Well, what he's been trying to mind his his his PS and QS all season. He's not gonNA. You don't WanNa get in trouble. You don't want to get in trouble when your the kid that used to get in trouble and all of a sudden you're not doing anything and now you're like someone's looking at like you did it when you didn't that is not the guy you want to be. That is not the guy you want to be so No, but he's he's just been really really good. I can't really praise enough what we've seen. Those are a couple more of the bright spots. Clint Frazier's been phenomenal. 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I love I like that versus be on Friday it might be on Thursday if all goes well, he could get in there on Thursday but you know it might not be until Friday or Saturday I think it's funny that you find certain things convenient based on the communications, the non communications and then other things. Not. So convenient whether or not telling you certain things you want to be in the know but but when I don't want to be in the know, just don't tell me and then excite me it's all about managing expectations here. No, no, no I want to. Ideally I would be in the know but when their communication is always misleading and always wrong I rather just not no. Okay beautiful. So let's be in the dark then because then they'll just SUPRI- rules. This is exactly what happened. We talked about this last episode about how sometimes these guys go into you know whether it's alternate site or or minor league facilities, and we don't know about that but they get there and they're like boom they're back like super fast. It happened when Judge Stanton were both our last year when they went to Charleston I, think it was or. was that one was that the last year the year before that? I have no clue that that seems like you're right I. Think it is two thousand and nineteen. It wasn't Charleston. North Carolina. It was. They were in Durham. That's what it was because we had a couple of guys go to that and cope with the game. If you told me that happened in two thousand, twelve, I'd be like, yeah. Okay. Makes that seems like forever ago yeah. So. Good fine. That means they've been healthy for a while by the way. Here's just so you know they've been healthy for a while. Have they though? Yes. Because they don't just like all of a sudden shopping then they're good. It's like what? What happened between them what was going on somewhere else? They did originally say there were targeting the weekend series at fenway this coming weekend against Boston as returns for both of those players Stanton and judge, and they were talking more about judge going to the altar and said, he went to the alternate side on Monday he got bats off Clark Schmidt on. Tuesday I believe it was or Wednesday excuse me on Monday afternoon or Tuesday he got up out of Clark Schmidt. So they're talking about that saying Oh. Yeah. Might be might be the weekend like that timing lines up and when cashman spoke about judges injury when he went on the I l. for I second time with the calf injury he said it's going to need double the amount of time to recover because it didn't work the first time. So we got even W Monta double the amount of time was going to be right around September twentieth, which is this weekend in Boston. So I'm sure. He's one hundred percent right hundred percent I'm one hundred percent I get out there but I'm a little surprised that they're bringing back because. What's the rush? Really? That is the Russia's to get. is to get You know back in the groove to get the timing back it's it's it's becoming now if you don't have enough time to to be able to do that then then who's that on when really they're ready for it so there's a difference between it just leads me to believe that they were ready earlier and like this is now deemed the appropriate time to get as many swings they need to be ready for the playoffs. That's that's kind of what this. kind of what this means to do. Do you think them being a half game starting on Tuesday a half game behind Toronto trying to get over Toronto. So you're at least securing the number two spot in the division. Do you think it has anything to do with it? I mean, sure it's. Probably, something to do with ten percent twenty percent. I don't know. I. Think the fact that there a week and a half away two weeks away is probably the biggest thing and then Oh, by the way Toronto's on the schedule. So Roy Moore along those lines. But of course, you can't have people return and someone else not deal with anything laboratories is dealing with a quad issue. They're not putting them on the I l.. Wouldn't you couldn't really retroactive him back very far because he pinch hit on Sunday, he got the game winning hit on Sunday. That's great. But do you think they should have put him on the I l. beginning on Sunday when they found out probably had quad issue So that would have meant he could come off the I l. next. Wednesday, I know because I mean this is part of the argument we want them to to not put people on the island to be able to play through thing. So No, I don't want, but he's not playing. He's sitting now. Yeah I understand that but I don't think that retroactively we're talking about the we're talking about using this the deal as an opportunity to. Get guys back sooner if they're sitting or I, don't know man. It's the aisle. It's insensitive. I apologize the I. It's like I can't believe replaying that to talk about my expectations, and if I'm happy with a guy who's not going to be on the the I l. and like sit out and wait it out or go on. So be retroactive. It's ridiculous conversation that we have to have I. Think they did the right thing because especially he pinch hit and won the game. So if you didn't if he wasn't available, they maybe wouldn't have won that game. So that's good but. He is not playing. You Got Tyler. Wade out there playing shortstop to other words not very good. We found. Hit a home run and. You know runs the basis really well. And is it good glove so you're getting guys back. In the lineup at D. getting judge in right field. I. Don't have to defend tyler would every single time as as a guy who's valuable as the last guy on the bench because he's not he is as the last guy in the bench is extremely valuable. Anyway. Gleyber Torres is a twenty three year old with recurring muscle problems i. think that is maybe a bigger thing to talk about. Then should they have retroactively put him on the Isle isn't he twenty four? I don't know it wasn't. He wasn't a twenty three last year wasn't wasn't that the he's only twenty three or was only twenty two I can't keep up anymore he's young but the fact that he's having no one sodas twenty-one that Labor Torres is twenty three years old he turns twenty four, this December December. Got It. Okay. So it was twenty two last year the thing is. I don't know what is a major problem anymore and what isn't or what the Yankees are making into an issue that isn't. So it's really hard to tell what injuries are are actually. On another team or You know if the player wanted to play through it could he if it were up to him I, don't know anymore because I feel like at this point especially in the season, the Yankees are being so freaking cautious with everything, it's very hard to hard to tell what's real was not well did you see that a we're gonNA talk about the playoffs in a minute. Manfred said that it's likely the eight teams per league are going to be making the playoffs going forward that owners and and people around the League are basically. Money. Baby you know for for this year and they got a they would probably it'll take four or five years to make up for the first half of the the money that they want. They're never gonNA make that that recoup that the revenue loss of fans not being in the stands for this season. But that means the Yankees are just gonNA approach things even more cautiously than they already do load management days days off day after night game he's not gonNA play it's GonNa. It's GONNA be. Do you blame them if eight teams make the place I, don't blame them. If Abe eight teams make the playoffs. Now we're talking about a traditional thing where you have to be a top four team in your jockeying for field advantage. Then maybe I blame them a little bit but if half the league's in the playoffs, then sure I'm going to be honest I wanNA back to. You don't play the American league you don't play the you don't play the running. Back. To you don't the other league until the world series and there's only yes teams per league and the Goddamn playoffs to. That was that was no I'm good with four. Just making it making it to series. But wasn't interleague play in nineteen ninety-seven, and by that time the wildcard was already. So you want wildcard one wildcard no liked I like I like having a LDS and. And a world series. Okay. Let's this thing cutthroat. Do you want so fourteen let's go seven games. All of them. Do you want a? Gala Dems do you want you guys heard Kemp on the cold open on the last show talking about judges hurt maybe that was the good luck. That was we call it out. That's I mean literally he goes to the baseball cards. This guy is hurt right this guy's hurt right? It said it's a sad state of affairs that sucks. That's his first introduction to like a baseball. Team is that guys hurt that guys guys hurt I mean how forget it in like three days but that's fine. It's it is unfortunate right now. But now that people are coming back, we can start doing a little bit more with the names and like really drilling that into that because it's been difficult I'm not trying to him last names. Yeah. I bought a Shitty shitty pack of. Team. Cards what I could find on Amazon for you know fifteen bucks or whatever, and I had to buy a couple of them to fill in gaps had. been there for whatever reason one of them he wasn't and So yeah, use flash cards they get all jacked up. It's not like we're not keeping them in good shape, but they're flash cards the so you want fourteen. So so one wildcard or wild card plan game now, who wants to play in game that's just confusing. Okay I mean fine. I. Understand that and you're talking about a seven game series through and through but I'm assuming you still want off days right? Maybe, you know maybe maybe no batting gloves with Cisco get off my lawn, style? As much as we possibly can I'm just sick of I'm joking but at the same time, the eight, the eight teams going into the playoffs on either side is a bit much and when we have when there is a season of a hundred and sixty two games that long, it doesn't matter as much than what are we doing? What are we doing? Yeah, if you're. Going to make it that many people that many teams getting it i. don't I really don't understand what the what the point of making the season as long as it's if that's the case like they just don't go hand in hand. So there's obviously eight teams in the national, league this year that are GonNa make there's only five teams above five hundred in the National League. The point of one, hundred, sixty, two game season. is to weed out teams. You can't weed out teams when everybody makes the playoffs. It just doesn't. It's not their counter to the counter intuitive that they don't work together. Yeah. Exactly and a I'd be totally down for cutting the season by two weeks. If you're going to have eight teams, make the place I think that would be. Just make sense from a lot of standpoint. So it's not GonNa Rosters, expand the rosters a little bit. Shorten the amount of the more he had just just. Because there's it's a grind and I understand that but you're making you're putting an emphasis on the regular season as well. So you're going to need some extra bodies with talent. I'm fine with that have a couple more people on the roster. Limit, the amount of bullpen pitcher suit can have give me some more position players so that we can get some better opportunities of the plate and we got ourselves a hell of a game. I like Rob Manfred. Has just dropping bombs on this postseason, which obviously is already going to be different because there's more teams in it, and it's it culminating a short season. He saying fans might be in the stands and certain stadiums in the bubble in the bubble the bubble. Texas Texas probably going to have they give me wearing those remo sexists sort of fans going to be in bubbles. was there like a miscommunication? Boys Boys in the stands. Yeah. Is there going to be instead of? Instead of offense going up. Down the down, the lines is they're going to be just a a clear sheet of plastic going all the way up. And I think the biggest the biggest bombshell evolves he said there's not going to be any off days in the division series with a championship series. Normally, you have an off day after game to an after game in a DAS after game four, and after an a championship series after game five. So it takes nine days to complete a seven game series. Now, it's GonNa take seven days. Apparently, teams just found out about that this week because Aaron Boone was talking to the media before today's game. And he said it like we just found out about this. So that is a problem. So many reasons the first of all terrible communication by baseball also that might have affected how teams would approach a trade deadline. If we know, we might need extra bullpen arms extra starter arms because we have no off days to rely on, which has been a thing in baseball forever in the playoffs you have off days you have traveled days I know there's no travel in the bubble, but you still have an off day when the Yankees and the mets played the subway series there didn't need to travel anywhere but guess what they had off days. Yeah. I mean I don't really think it matters as much for roster construction at the trade deadline you're not gonNA. Make a move. If you'RE GONNA make a move, you're going to make a move. It's not because of the know off that maybe but how do you feel about the no off days in the DS in the CS does that hurt the Yankees does it help the Yankees? Is it no real effect? I mean I think with the construction that we have with the bullpen. It hurts us because theoretically if they're working if the if the bullpen is actually going well and that's something that we're depending on, which is how this roster was constructed. Yes it hurts the team because now you don't get that extra day for guide arrest. Let's take. For instance, Chad Green Green could go if there's an off-day, could go to innings have the off dad go to winnings now that there's no off day he can't. He's unavailable the next day. So that's that's definitely a way that you can. They get hurt specifically just with him but that communicates with any of the guys that come through innings. It also affects I mean they don't use guys bullpen arms three days in a row I think that changes in the playoffs but you certainly not going to use a guy force or maybe four would use them five days in a row. I mean. That's just putting a guy stretched. So early on the playoffs, that's a really tough thing to say because now you might, if you you're using a guy. Five days in a row in a DS. there. Yeah. That's that's really handicapping yourself for the next series almost. You have no idea how a guy's GonNa react when a guy has never done that you can do that to a pitcher because that risks injury far too much and then how do you know how he's going to perform if he's pitching on a fourth or fifth day in a row when he's never done it? These are one of these things that they're going to be running into. We're GONNA see what happens and probably injuries will happen. Also great more injuries also, this means Gert Coal and any other ace on any other teams. I understand. The Yankees are now operating in the same rules as everyone else, but you can't come back on full rest for game five of the Ale the you gotta come back on short rest or in the playoffs in a in a seven game series. If you want Garrett Cole to pitch two times, he's going to have to pitch on short rest three times in a row. If he pitches the fifth game of the champion. So you can have a situation if everything lines up beautifully for the Yankees and Garrett Cole Pitch Game One of the wild card round and the Yankees win that series. Then Garrett Cole Can Pitch Game One of the Division Series Round I. Think There's the reason they're doing. This is because there's going to be a few extra off days between the wildcard round and the division series for travel teams need to get in the bubble. It's all about the amount of time. It's like, Hey, we got to be done by here by the state have dates for the world series that are locked in they can't change those. Yeah. I mean look at that. That was the scenario you're laying out right now because the Yankees are so dependent on their number one pitcher. For success in the playoffs is a big problem for the New York. Yankees. So yeah, we're blair-kohl is going to be pitching to arrest. That's also if you say, well, you know what? Get cold us when he gets paid to do I Trust Garrett Cole on short rest okay. Tanaka also has to pitch on short rest Divvy Garcia also has to pitch on short rest. Join Montgomerie. Your Chevy Garcia's now a fixture in the rotation for the play. All your. Is. It happened so fast and guess what if you don't want those guys to pitch on short rest J. Hap. Has To pitch or you have to get the best pitcher on our team pitch. Sorry. But but how you going to do a bullpen game when you got off days I mean that's that's a positive. That's a good thing that means we don't have to do a bullpen game. I was GonNa talk myself into somehow this helping the Yankees because Oh if all pitchers the Yankees struggle with elite starting pitchers in the playoffs, right? They couldn't hit Justin verlander they couldn't hit. Chris sale and who is the other guy for the red sox. I can't think of his name. Rick Portillo's stunted us a couple of times. Him But oh no, not not price. They did hit pricing this year but you know what I'm saying is if price price understands where he where he stands here if other pitchers if the Yankees ended up having to face Tampa and then snell and happens the problem because probably more legit guys right now that can go in there and pitch at any point and be shut down they have ninety seven guys on that team and then they have the other bullpen guys that nobody knows their names. But. They all throw funky deliveries and ninety miles per hour. So but in theory the Yankees because this simulates more of a regular season where you're playing every day and the Yankees chew up pitchers who are tired or or end of the end of the pitching roster pitchers. The Yankees Chew those guys up and that's when they're. They're three true outcomes. Offense really comes into form and you get a couple of walks and loop void hits a three run home run off of name your fifth starter right. Yeah. But I don't know if that's going to actually happen in the playoffs. So while that could benefit the Yankees, I think there's so many negatives on their pitching in which was already a question mark going into a place with off days. Now you had no off days in these series. That is tough. Hey Man James Paxton might become a back in nicely nicely well, rested Winning pitcher one inning pitcher. Who knows what maybe maybe they were just keeping Clark Schmidt down there to to to throw to. Stanton and judge now that he's accomplished that feat, he can have dominated the photos. Hey. I'm just saying you gotta get them ready. So you gotTa have a Major League legit pitcher down there to get them ready. Now he's good that job is finished no more injuries were passed that and he's GonNa, come up and be another guy that they can rely on look there. But the the fact that Debbie Garcia has come up and pitched well has immensely help his team at least in the depth so that we're not completely screwed. There's an opportunity Debbie Garcia is lightning in a bottle. The Guy has shown that he can pitch an a big moment he can. He can pitch in the In the in the in the big against good competition and the composure is there. So I feel like that is one of the very, very big positive things that has come about this season with all the injuries you have a guy who's embracing the opportunity and we saw that with the position players last year, and maybe now we're actually seeing with the pitchers and a guy in the rotation, which is not happened in a long time. But honestly what is wrong with baseball? To to do this kind of stuff but keep doing this stuff at layers and layers and layers to an already funky season. What what is the point? I don't know look I'm at the point now where I'm almost. Ready to. Just appreciate how they've gotten through this season and the fact that they've gotten to this point humming for general you mean, yeah think about what we were. We were two months ago and looking at what the season was such a shit show and they figured it out and they just and they dealt they dealt with it like they took some body blows and they kept going. And they kept going and they figured out a schedule and they kept going. So there are some Kudos here to admit that. But there is there's some Kudos here rob Manfred comes speaks to speak to the world in in a way that's very out of touch on on a lot of times he gets up at a podium or microphones put in front of him but. They're here they they got to this point. So you know in a in a very strange freaking world and a lot of moving parts and a lot of people involved a lot of teams involved there there you know a week and a half away from the finish line. So there's some Kudos to give out. Or today's I test versus Nerd test is brought to you by cuts clothing. The T shirt is a menswear staple, but it's long been plagued by horrible conditions. Last week, we told you about shrinkage Bacon, neck, color, fading parachute, fit wrinkle, stretching all that stuff. 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We got nerd stats for infielders the nuance 'cause the new on that that frank was talking about it is the new on showing I was. So excited when there was a new fan of obstat coming out, it's not fat grafts this stat cap. Same thing outs above average is stat casts version of say defensive runs saved but it was coke is our saying. Kind of we're just now we have our own branded like defensive defensive metrics, but conceptually outs above average makes sense in my brain, right? Doesn't. It doesn't that make sense. Let me read this to outs above average OA is the cumulative effect of all individual plays a fielder there has been credited or debited with making it a range based metric of fielding skill that accounts for the number of plays made and the difficulty of them. For example, fielder who catches a twenty five percent out probability play gets a plus point seven five one who fails to make the play gets minus point two, five meaning the harder the play the less likely the play is to be made. If you make it the more you get boosted, you don't make it the less you get dinged however if. It's a routine play or play that eighty percent of the League is making and you're not making it. You're going to get dinged even more I in my mind this makes sense as a stat prior to this year it was only available for outfielders because stat stat casting their cameras, they're using sprint speed they're using exit velocity off the Bat. Using launch angle they're using where it was hit on the field bunch of different high tech cameras figuring out where the ball's going where the players are going. Now, they have it for infielders and I am going to run down some of the infielders robot Brooklyn or question Yeah Yeah question here for for. For the people the When you get to work because we referenced the the out probability right. The probability is a big part of this like understanding how they get to that point and you're talking about the different metrics they use for other positions as well. But how how did they get to the out probability? So how is how is our the nerds deeming play routine and how are they deeming a play? difficult is it volume of other place happening? So it's basically comparing it to other other balls that were hit that same or similar angle same or similar similar velocity excetera. How often do those get made? So it's a volume based thing you have to have the volume in order to calculate this stuff. So after thousands and thousands of balls being tracked and calculated, they can say this ball only has a twenty percent out probability. got. It okay and that's and that's where they get a standard. Yes your compared to your peers to right because coverage and so I'm asking questions here that that. Question Horton questions because it goes down to the root of the foundation of how they get to what we're about to talk about. Yeah and so for outfielders Aaron, Judge of all led all of baseball in right field above average last year with plus eight that matches the eye tests Aaron Judge's an elite defensive outfielder talk men led left-field plus nine. So there's just showing the theser matching up how much of like here's has dumb one but how much of judges height plays into that because he's You know. Everybody else certainly does he has longer reach yesterday take fewer strides to get to a ball. But Hey, them's the breaks if you're a short right field. I was born. I was born like this mookie betts is still good though So what's the takeaway on the Yankees Infield? Well, they're not very good defensively gleyber Torres this year is minus two outs above average last year he was minus three at shortstop and minus six overall in the field last year by comparison, the MLB leader at shortstop in two thousand nineteen was Havi by as with plus eighteen outs above average. Okay Does that match your eye test for for Gleyber Torres just barely below league average which in this case is zero I'd say, yes, I'd say I I knew that Gleyber Torres was not playing a great shortstop. He doesn't look like he's playing a great shortstop based on The comfort the watching every pitch watching how comfortable he has other the range that he has there are not very many a fantastic place that he makes any also boots you know and flubs routine place so. I. Would I would say that much. Yeah and for the eye test didn't we say de was great. Yeah I yeah. No No, no no. So we know that Dede has a plus arm and with makes plays look easy and is yes is yes he lined up similar to our shallow which we're going to get to. So from a DVD last year at shortstop was minus fourteen outs above average thirty, four, hundred, thirty, fifth shortstop I am going to say that was injury related. I was GONNA say last year is a tough one to pin on DVD though go back to eighteen and Gimme some stats minus seven in two, thousand, eighteen minus five in two thousand seventeen. Okay. However, this year with Philly, he's plus one there you go. So I. Wonder. If the Yankees positioning had anything to do with him. With the way they were positioning him during the game you mean, yeah. Yeah. Maybe I mean that. That's how do they account for that? How do they account for shifting and and where a player start? Zeltser. That's one thing that I've been trying to wrap my mind around and the shifting like anything else is based on like place where do you start on the field and? Then, now you're talking about a much smaller sample size I know I know that's why again defensive metrics are an empire is so we can throw the metrics out the window now no, that doesn't mean you can throw the metrics at the window. Okay. Jewish L., A. Minus two of average in twenty twenty throwing. So we know minus two at third base in two thousand and nineteen. He you know what I think I realized about your Shelhah. The reason he's minus two is because he has he slow on his first step. So that's basically what it is. He's a little slowness first step down range thing you're saying that's why we see him making. What looks like fantastic plays running towards the third base line grabbing it on the run throwing it. He's got to strong arm. The reason he's feeling like that is because he's a half a step slower than the best defensive third Baseman in baseball which is Nolan Aaron Auto match. Habit these guys were plus sixteen anybody who feels that ball malignly. Yeah. Anybody who feels the ball going down a line like that has to make that same through I don't care how fast you get to the ball. But if you If you get to the ball faster. That means you're further down the line you have to make an even more awkward from third base. It's an awkward throw from third based online. Anyway it's arrange thing with her shell. He also doesn't get two balls to his left. So towards Charles Schwab more that's more where I see it. It's more of a a horizontal range thing rather than in and out in you you start client you start talking about the balls that are in front of him. It's very difficult to say that anybody who gets her a step faster is making has an easier throat because it's not the same throw. Saying, easier, throw the the the for the eye test, the difficulty factor. But I'm saying that that's that's that's where you lose me on that. You Talk Vert Utah. I I'm talking about horizontal left and right? Okay fine but not front back. At the place in front of you very, very difficult to identify. which ones not gio going to his right so towards the third base line and going to his left towards the shortstop, right? He's not great. He makes them like look difficult because he doesn't get to him as quickly. That's what I'm saying he's not bad like again he's minus two. But In my eyes, he's better at third base than glacier is at shortstop. So that doesn't match up and another thing that doesn't match up is Miguel and do Har was only minus eleven in two thousand eighteen he should have been minus a billion because if he's only minus eleven, there's no Jewish la's minus two. Yeah. So the throwaway scared of. Wing Yeah yeah get you all I. See starling Castro compound on. Talk about that. Jalen May. Is Plus one this year now it's above average plus two at second base in two thousand nineteen. I thought he was going to be better. He's slightly above average. That might be an age thing i. think maybe he was better defensively when he was in Colorado, he was younger but. A year younger two years younger to peak condition the that did not affect him. I'm sorry you don't believe in. Colorado. Six years ago but but you don't lose a step. It's very difficult I don't think you lose a step in that in that timeframe not not not enough to make that much of a difference. He's thirty two years old. He's not going to move as quickly as when he was twenty-eight. I. Beg To differ. Okay Science begs to differ with you signed who looks at science. So. Adam Frazier led Major League baseball with plus eleven outs above average at second base last year somehow starling Castro was plus seven and two thousand nineteen thought his defense used to suck I don't understand that. You know I mean, don't they'll talk to me about thrown Castro negative light because I'm a big stolen Castro guy I I've always loved him. I've always loved his. His his entire ambiance around the team I I like him. Going down on one knee what I think you liked I think you like that. He was so much better than Stephen drew. Well, he was so much. But he was one of the first rays of light coming back to this team when we when cashman made that trade out of the out of the trash heap and got starling cashier, we were all like Oh, my God. We got this kid that we've been hearing about forever who stole like twenty years old and he's been an star every year UTA. Aging three hundred he's been. You know he was like the guy for a long time with the cubs like they're only ray of hope, and then they got rid of him and what a world series but he was he was a guy that came over the head hobby bias plus eighteen defense plus a he was forever. Yeah. We'll have you by is really doing it with this year startling Castro has been it seems like you should be forty five years old and maybe he who knows if he's lying. But she's been around for so long because he's been around since he was eighteen, I think Well Yeah and he was my first interview face to face with player. So that's why two. And Luke Voi- is minus two outs above average tyler is plus two outs above average. I mean some of these don't match the test said Miguel and do heart doesn't match the eye test I thought. Gee. LS should at least be flat if not slightly positive but. I think Lemay you and your show or are similar players in the sense of I. Think they get rated similarly amine. It's clear that one I think I think they're base much harder position in the Let me let me clarify this. It's because they're both they both have very good gloves. It's a matter of if they can get to the ball or not It's it's all to me to me when you see a guy that doesn't pass the eye test and has a negative defensive metric statistic it's all about range the that's hard to see on TV. Yeah definitely. But I think overall when you look at this the Yankees, Infield, if you have your best defensive infield out there or you're starting Infield, which is voight Lemay, hugh or Shelhah in Torres there about minus four minus five. I think that's about right with this infield. Yeah I. Mean I don't think it's a great infield I feel like we knew that the the first base is not good. shortstop is not good third base when GEOS there is good and and then Dj Lemay who has been I mean he's played third base he's played second base can't say. No I never will blaming. Lightening. Strike me. Dead Day I say anything bad about him. He's the man has been a team player and gone all over the place when other injuries have happened. So you know it's the kiss. My ass when they're talking about Dj. Lemay. Doan. And knocking him down for defensive defensive problems when he's being a company man and floating all over the place. The infield above average kind of goes into one of our first mailbag questions. It's from Julio. He says I know that DVD's time in New York came to an end but I really think that the loss of Deedee is more than numbers. Now I really feel he was the guy that kept the club, the club loose and relaxed seems that boone doesn't seem to be able to do it during this brutal stretch. So obviously, this mailbag was from week ago the Anki seemed to be pressing too much and they really seemed to Miss Dvd's presence just for fun. Through forty six games deedee is hitting two seventy, seven with three, thirty, nine on base percentage, a seven home runs and one hundred and ten WRC plus do you think the Yankees Miss Regret? ANYTHING WITH I mean I think they should regret it I think they should. They should identify the missed a guy like that. Who signed a one year deal somewhere else has approved me contract after an injury. I, think he's playing now two more what we thought he would be i. mean he this is kind of who he is. He's he's also playing plus defensive He's being he the plus shortstop right now to plus one shortstop but even the the power is pretty pretty damn close to. As expected I'd say on base percentage probably. You know there's some room for improvement there but it's pretty good and then you know batting average if anybody cares about it is is is pretty close to where I I'd expect you Gregorios to be. So seems like he's your goodyear and when you when you consider the Kinda Guy, he is the way that the fans you know pull for him the way that he was in the dugout. Yeah, you got to be missing him. I don't know if they I. Don't know if they regret it though because I mean, we'll see if I'm Marie instead of Brett Gardner. Certainly, and that would be great if they sign if they don't sign Dj Lemay Hugh then I look at that. Didi non-contract and I'm like well, what the hell was your plan. And misdiagnosing the fact that glacier is a shortstop that can really say because I don't see him as a long-term shortstop. He's only going to lower. He's a he's a guy who's GonNa probably really really drill down on the offensive side and and that means that probably going to put on a little weight I'd say he's probably going to get stronger and you know just more bulky I could see him going in that direction more of More of Castro really you're just you can't. You can't stay at shortstop and that you need to be a little over two second back to the second back to sex. So. If you're looking that like what are we doing? Well, if they're playing signed DJ Lemay who for four years and then in four years move. Gleyber back to second I understand that and I rather have that than Didi but if they let Lemay you walk. Then I say I would much rather have deedee at short for the next five years and Gleyber at second base I I just think we we don't. We can't say it's a bad decision to let dd walk until after this offset. Okay. So let me ask you this isn't it isn't it wasn't it a bad decision then to make him a after signing a one year deal wasn't it a little? It's a, it's a black mark on the Yankee side of of like looking into the future for me as a one year deal knowing that Dj. Lemay, used deal is up after this year. So you have to sign Dj Lemay you, which is relatively out of your it's out of your control whether he signs or not. But if you signed if you if you get a guy like DVD or have him on the roster at least now, you at least have some kind of coverage. There's no coverage right now. Dr. Tyler. Your boy tola words covert again, twelve last man on the bench. Love Love is last minute fetch love him as the last man on the bench. To make a case against him last night on the bench you can't. Wait doesn't get on base at all. He doesn't need to hit. Okay next. Next Dustin next Dustin watching the sec