19 Episode results for "Cyrano"

The Midsummer Zeppelin

Bedtime Stories With Nennis And Douglas

14:00 min | 1 year ago

The Midsummer Zeppelin

"Ten night. Story is cold. Summer! Great. By Nannies. Because the skylines were so much further to the north than hosmer. Long Paul at least a three hour. Express train journey. The summer days of very long, and the winter days were very short in fact that days right in the middle of summer was so long that it was still light until nearly midnight, and they're not only dark for three and a half hours before the sun would come up again. And the people of the skylines knew that they were so lucky to have these special summer days the on Midsummer's night they celebrated in the most wonderful way possible. Captain Kirk, you'll would fly into the town of Mabul glow in his gigantic Zeppelin. Of floating ship as long as a skyscraper is tall. Huge balloon like structure the shape of a marrow and below it. Larch set of rooms and cabins for people to write did. So each year on Midsummer's Day, the whole town of Marble Glow would all gather in the evening, the largest field and watch as the Zeppelin landed. And all. Climb aboard four party. As the sun went down, they would set sail out towards the archipelago, a collection of thousands of little islands in the Albion see and then either have a party or a sleepover when it got dark before what chasing the sun rise three and hall of Ours Zeta. Everyone from Blue Sky School and to their teaches, and all the grownups would be invited. And for Friends Rini Cyrano win and Ellie. who were all emit specs? Hills class at blue sky. It was easily their favorite night of the year. They didn't have to stay with them. Mummies daddies when they got on board Zepplin, but instead found cabins where lots of other friends were playing instead of going to the GROWNUP party. The most exciting part was when Zeppelin took off, and all the friends would gather by cabin windows as the God Guanzhou. An airship lifted silently away from the ground, and they saw the whole town of Mabul glow spread out, but neath them. The best game was defined your own house down below and Cyrano pointed in hysterics at his house sold. It seemed as they floated higher and higher. Soon? It began to grow dog, and the lost of the orange none dipped over the horizon. then. Feel scarlet, and James came to joining Rini Cirino win an ally in the cabin. Scarlet Theo James in Mr Wiggins class at blue sky school, but they would all play together at lunchtime. So shall we go and explore more repair? `plain suggested a win. But before anyone could answer. They heard some strange sounds. was that a dog barking. Candidate cats meowing all even a cow mooing. was even a sheep deleting. They went to the large windows off the cabin where the sounds seemed to be coming from. Opening the window the warm summer nights air breezed in, and they looked down towards the bottom of the. Their to their absolute as stone equipment, they saw a whole collection of animals all clinging all the tight O no cried Rini. We've got to help them. She was right if the animals fell from so high that be doomed. We'll have to climb down and save them fit ellie bravely, but mildness argued away Cuiv got no choice, insisted Ellie and climate out of the window and began making her way down to the animals. The others swallowing the nerves followed hud down holding onto handles that jutted out from the metal to form a ladder until they will on the undecided of the enormous Kroft. What's he all doing here asked Ellie to the animals. What Janice said sniffs a brown Labrador. Dog. All the humans get to go to the midsummer party every year, and you always leave us behind here. SET MARTINA THE FRIESIAN cow. Well look, said Cyrano climb up here to the cabin. Where it's safe, we'll help pugh. The friends carefully helped all the animals climb up the outside of the airship, and through the windows of cabin, but none of the animals looked very pleased. Only more worried. Well. You could say thank. You huffed Eddie. Graham Sate sniffs. The Graham, the coat he's climbed up to the very top. Goats of very good climbing. Everyone's dead at each other, and then when back to the window and this time looked up. The huge sausage shape of Azad plane bulged out and didn't let them see the talk, but sure enough. They heard Graham's panicked Blitz, Oh perfect sat rini shaking her head. She turned to the other animals. Right you lot stay here. The Scarlet James Rini Serrano O N and Climbed up the outside of the airship until they were standing on the very top. It stretched out before them like a lake of grey cotton versus. There stood by himself, was Graham the goat, looking very worried, indeed and sounding extremely alarmed, he all okay now say l. e. come with us, but Graham turned and faced into the wind. Everyone looked to the horizon. Huge lightning storm was headed straight for them. The ZEPPLIN might be hit. We've got Ted Change Course said Rini and they rushed along the top of that plane when they heard a bark. BLEAT and Mu behind them. All the animals had followed them up. All you lot shouted a win. About crimes, all friends to set sniffs. Gather. They all got to the front of the ship. I'm climbed down to where the cockpit was in front of the rooms and capping. Carefully they all climbed through the windows and found the cock pit to be. Completely empty. Where was captain her kill through the Front Windscreen? They could see a huge storm getting closer with pulses of electricity in it and bolts of Lightening Piercing from the black clouds. Wayne and peace bond a big wooden steering wheel as fast as they could, and the ship begun to ton to the left. Putting the engines on full blast they collided past the storm as a huge whites bolt of lightning frazzled through the sky precisely where they would have just flown. They opened the door to the cockpit and walked down a corridor into the main ballroom where all the grownups were having their party, the band stopped and everyone tons in amazement to see a collection of animals trot in. Walked the meaning of all this, said Captain Hook. You walks them meaning of no watching way your going. When there's a huge storm ahead, demanded Ellie. Every one looked out of the windows on the right hand side, and were astonished to see a heavy storm pulse right by them if it wasn't for Graham. The goat here Sade Cyrano wait be flying right through that. Aspect ship collided into calm and clear skies. This son began to come up again, and the band played their traditional sunrise, music All the friends stood and watched with the animals and grown-ups, as they floated hotline over the archipelago and the sky turn from sight, blue to orange yellow, and then to the deepest blue of a summer's Day. It was the most exciting midsummer's adventure. Zeppelin that anyone could remember. And, as a sign of his thanks for saving his beloved ship Captain Hook, you'll made an announcement that not only would animals be welcome on board at any time and go wherever they wished. They would always be there guests of honor. Every midsummer's night. Sweet night? Remember. You can find boone. Douglas on. INSTAGRAM. And spotify. Gone.

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A Coronavirus Interlude

Art Beauty

05:59 min | 1 year ago

A Coronavirus Interlude

"Hi Everyone I'm amber and welcome to the art beauty. Podcast you know. We started this podcast so many times shouting people and first and foremost. I want to show you out for listening this week. I really appreciate it. I also wanted to take a moment to really shout out on the first responders and people on the front line so all of the nurses and doctors minor my nieces nurse so thinking about you putting themselves out there and and helping us healthy all of the police officers Firefighters who are keeping a safe the public transit workers especially here in New York City who are really keeping it. Moving for us The food delivery men women especially here in New York City where we don't have the means and the kitchens to cook for ourselves And on that note also the grocery store owners and all the grocers and pharmacy workers People who are really putting their lives literally on the line right now for us To make sure that our lives can can go on a seemingly normal as they can in these very bizarre situations from all of us. I think I can speak. Thank you thank you. Thank you And I guess that's to say right now that we are living in some really crazy times and you know last week was the first week in an seventy two weeks where we didn't put an episode out and I wanted to address that with you because the reality is I just didn't know what to say we work with doctors and experts in prerecord content But I felt with the gravity of the situation and all of the newness of Corona virus. I wasn't really sure if anybody was ready. To hear about our F- micro needling or the fact that I already needed a pedicure You know we've got really serious things going on right now and I was just tied to the news probably like so many of you and at the end of the day I wanted to do something remarkable and I really wanted to come out and have that perfect thing to say to you and to inspire you into let you know in this crazy time that you weren't alone and to be honest. I just I couldn't and the reason I'm saying that right now is that I want to let all of you know if you've been feeling the same like you just can't give one hundred percent right now it's okay. I've talked to people on Zoom Chats my co workers my family my friends and I consistently hear that people are you know getting back into the swing of things but that nobody feels like they can operate at one hundred percent and to be honest. I don't know that it would be even possible. Were just human So I really just wanted to give you a little bit of a note of encouragement. We will get through this. There are some really awesome incredible things that are going on right now in the world I got to see acquire who gave the performance over zoom. They were awesome Christian. Cyrano and other designers are starting to make masks which really just goes to show you that like America. You know we will stand strong and so many experts have written to me and are willing to hop on this podcast to talk about issues that we're going to be dealing with while we're at home. You know things like telemedicine Aena things. Like how do I take my Gel manicure off because guess what these things matter to us? And they're not to take away from the gravity and the seriousness of what's going on but I do hope to provide a little bit of an escape if I can and when I can I want to let you know we will be back next week. we've got some experts who are coming on an expert from. Bosley to talk about hair restoration and also hair loss in times of stress. Because guess what. These are stressful times. We've got a board certified plastic surgeon coming on. We've got a dermatologist. Talk about how we can continue to do. Our skin checks while we're not actually getting into a physical office and I want to know what you want to hear about so now more than ever when you're sitting at home there's no thing too big no question too small. Nothing is off the table right now. So please don't feel like anything silly to ask. I can ask questions and I want to seek out these answers to help you and I just want to remind you all you know. It's a very strange time if you're feeling anxiety if you're feeling alone. I hope you'll tune in and I'll hope you'll reach out you can always reach out to me. Hello at art. Beat PODCAST DOT COM. I've seen so much community going on and about and don't be afraid to reach out and keep in mind that this is all at some point going to change and we will be stronger for it and in the meantime I'm sending my love and support to you. Enjoy the time with your families. Give a little bit of break to the kids who are You know stuck inside. It's not easy and if you're alone take a little bit of this time to self care and meditate. Maybe really enjoyed the quiet which we very rarely get these days. Most of all stay inside. Stay safe and as always I will see you next Tuesday.

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Thirst Aid Kit: We Love James McAvoy, That s All

Slate's Culture Gabfest

52:46 min | 1 year ago

Thirst Aid Kit: We Love James McAvoy, That s All

"James Holt in front of my mouth. I close my eyes as a bitter sweetness flips my tongue. Only you say can make me take that your old goats. That's what you are. This episode of Thursday kid is sponsored by dropbox. You've probably used dropbox at some point while working on a project maybe just to share and store file but did you know that dropbox is also a great tool for collaborating with all kinds of teams. Take filmmaking for example whether it comes to location scouting perfecting the sound Mike crew members use drugs to keep everyone in sync from start to finish. It takes a team to make great villains possible a little later in the show. We'll have from the director of a movie that premiered at the two thousand nine hundred thousand Sundance Film Festival. Get the pleasure you want this year. We pay why Lube when you're getting unbelievable pleasure. It shows the post great sex real people so turn up the pleasure show afterglow with K Y get your glow on at K Dash Wise Dot Com and get ten percent off with Promo code sexy. That's K Dash Y DOT COM. Get ten percent off with Promo Code. Sexy Okay Nicole. Have you got that out of your system whereas to come? No no that out. Bless your heart now listeners. Maters a slight difference in the way we sound this week and I don't just mean the germs clogging up of various systems Nicole is actually so unwell that she is not in the studio. She's such a trooper that she is recording this from a secret location. Deep in some villain's lair. Somewhere in Brooklyn. Shout to Unical. Because you did this yes I am in a in flatbush somewhere coughing up my lungs dying. I'm sorry I'm so sorry it's Okay. I must go on and you know one never have. I seen in such action. Look at you the first Moscow. You're like an old school theater director my darlings the show must go on as you. Hack a lung discreetly into a potted palm. You're doing amazing very proud of you and we are very thankful and we are going to power through this episode so that you can get some more fluids. No not that kind. You'RE GONNA get some fluids and you're GONNA get some rest that good. Yes it sounds fantastic. All right let's jump right into today's episode Nicole now you and I and our producer show. We did something last week. That's really animated. Today's episode did it. Not Absolutely. We went to see Cyrano de Berge wreck starring James mcevoy Louis. Now okay. So we're GONNA get to Cyrano but the key thing is we animated strongly by James mcevoy. He was the person that we went to watch. Of course Jamie Lloyd Respected Theater Director the whole thing National Theatre live is great Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. But the real key to Venturing out on a cold winter in Brooklyn was to go and see James mcevoy and the reason. Why is James mcevoy has been at the forefront of our thirsty imaginings for a good number of years? Now right yes I mean. I can't remember the first time that I saw him. But I just know that whenever real was to keep my eye on this man for the rest of my life life expectancy is high until I die this guy. I know I know exactly what you mean. I had a very similar. I remember for sure I saw him. It was years and years and years ago on a TV show called shameless. Which has been remade in America and has gone on for Latin longer than it ever did in the UK but was on there with his now ex wife. Anne-marie doff who is also amazing astonishing fair to perform and in that. I'll never forget this. He was playing an Englishman from London. School Steve I think and he had like a proper legal London accent and later on when I found out that he was actually Scottish. I remember kind of think. You don't like God watts like I was genuinely taken aback by it because he was like this kind of slightly pushed dickhead from London. And I'd like to know him. No many many men like him and then I heard him speak in his native accent and I was just like Oh my God Jesus Christ I know. They couldn't have made you Scottish for reasons but I wish they'd let you keep this. Oh my God. He's so arts here so high and I wish that he could keep his Scottish accent for everything is just so beautiful to me anyway so yes so. Shameless was the beginning. And then there's like a number of movies that he went through a big period of being nominated for everything and anything and then he has like a couple of comic book franchise in there. He has like the serious. You know the indie stuff. He has like the weird phase and so what he's growing still but we're going to get all of this so Nicole. Grab something to soothe your throat. Let's begin the all right. I think now that I've thought about it some more. I can make the first time that I really glommed onto him. Was the last king of Scotland. Interesting interesting okay. I see I can see the logic is and I already love you for go. On the last king of Scotland he's stars in it with Carrie Washington and Forest Whitaker. He played a character. Nicholas Garagan Very young you know guy trying to figure out what his place in the world. He spent the globe and figures wherever he lands is where he's going to go and he lands on Uganda right. He goes there he ends up. Part of Idi Amin courts. I guess I I think I think it's fair to call it. A coup it. Yeah 'cause I basically the kind of ship he was running back then yeah and then you know. Nicholas begins this relationship with Carrie Washington character. Who is one of the wives? And that's when I saw that this man that James mcevoy might be one of the best onscreen kissers I have ever seen in my life. Okay so like you. I had a moment where I was just kind of like. Oh my God. This guy is so good at everything he does and in that movie. He's playing this fictional character like you said he's He's not real. He has been kind of imagined for the book and subsequent film but he's he's quite green isn't he? So he's not all he's not immediately attractive prospect like when we first meet Nicholas. He's kind of just like slightly. You know is doing fine line in that sort of white privilege that means you can spend and be like wherever it lands. That's where I'll go and you end up being fuck in Uganda. But like there's is something that's switches in him. Suddenly you think to yourself. I don't know why but I'm drawn to this guy like there's something about him and that is one hundred percent down to James mcevoy's portrayal of him. Yeah like even. Though he was very baby-faced you know he was very you know still relatively young At the time he always has this level of seriousness to his role that he you can tell that he He wants to make sure that he is performing to the best of his ability in the he has taken care with research. At least that's how it feels to me. You know as as someone watching that. He has researched that. He has made sure that he understands the context of the character that he's playing in the script and all that kind of stuff and it just comes across and everything that he does even when he's know playing something as we'll get you a little later playing some a character like a professor x right this mutant that can Control minds or whatever it is. Professor can do but it's just not always Always brings this level of expertise to his characters. Yes yes you look at him and you think you know you know that wonderful video slash. Gif of Patrick Stewart where he pretends to be asleep and then he suddenly jerks awake and he goes Acting there is something that something of that I mean without the the Ham element that you know Patrick Stewart is doing in that scene. But there's something about mcevoy that makes you think God he's he's killing it because he comes out the other side where it doesn't show that he's acting it feels like he is embodied the character and so by the time you come out of it. You feel like you've been in a trance watching him and then you come back to yourself and you wait. Wait wait wants that was. I've been transported if really feels it feels like watching him at his best when he's at the height of his powers. It always feels as though I know his face but he doesn't feel like an actor to me in those moments he feels like himself and I I was interested years ago. He said in an interview that If he hadn't become an actor he might have become a priest. Right and part of me thought that there's something about him that invites confidence something about him that invites us to kind of take a look unto trust him earnestness to him. Yeah like he's he's got those big is he wants. He's kind of you know it does feel a little bit. Confide in me like yeah absolutely. There's something solid about him for someone who is so slight. There is something very solid and grounded in him that I always appreciate when I when I watch him on screen something. I look for a lot in the projects I take on is a certain degree of life experience and almost a sense of expedition for myself and the team. That's going to set out to make this film. My name is Brian King. I'm a filmmaker and the director of evening. Our films based on a book of the same name evening our was written by Carter. Sickles Raden shot the film in Appalachia in Southeastern Kentucky. A lot of what? The book contained the drew me and was a combination of a very specific geographical setting and landscape with a very compelling story and portrait of Rural America. That felt completely unexpected in new to me. The evening our tells the story Coal Freeman who works as a nursing home aid but also deals drugs on the side is a way to make ends meet ultimately kind of interweaves that story with issues of family home and place that I think are also quite present and challenging throughout a lot of rural America and before Brayden even set foot in Kentucky dropbox. Was there every step of the way for him and his team? It's where myself and the director of photography could trade images and ideas about locations. It's where the makeup artist and I and actors could share ideas about tattoos and makeup treatments and hair color. It was a really important tool for us to be able to discuss in many cases when we might be in different cities the fluidity with which you can share information ideas notes. It's hard to overstate the value. Dropbox helps filmmakers and their teams make their best work. You can learn more about how your team can use dropbox to bring great ideas to life at dropbox dot com slash film. So I mean I said shame was the first thing I saw him. In of course Watcher last king of Scotland loved it. A yes professor x was his thing and I. I always find that interesting. I bro Patrick Stewart. Quite by accident but like for the longest time I think in many people's imagination From the comics we read kids the TV shows. We watch professor. X is an older man who is bold and he uses a wheelchair and the idea of him as a young man. It genuinely never even entered my mind. I always just assumed that professor x had been born at the age of sixty five found a wheelchair designed it so it said X. on the wheels and he just carried on living his life. It never occurred to me that at one point he had been a boy and a young man and then when they announced the costing and they cost him as professor x they cost Michael Foss Bender as his best friend Slash Nemesis magneto. And I thought. Oh Yeah I guess they. While young men once upon a time and the thing that got me was instantly. I for the first time in my whole life my whole X. men watching life. I thought Ho ship. Excess sexy okay. Well I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that for myself. I thought that professor x according to the nineties cartoon that I will watch thought he was Kinda hot Even though I wasn't a big fan of Paul here but I always thought that he was kind of hot but like you it was kind of like oh. He was a young person at some point. Right James mcevoy cast is person that was a little bit of a shock. I had to get used to that. Yeah I mean. The shock wore very quickly. Because I was excited to see. You know this this actor who is so good at doing serious kinds of you know slice of life roles and thinking about you know class and Britain and this that and the other. And he's playing a mutant who can read minds and I was like all right. Let's see you bring your Shakespearean trading so this young man. And then he did and I was like. Oh Yeah. He can do anything he can do. Most things like sure all right but I was very kind of. There's a couple of bits that I really kind of made sure to me that they were trying to kind of remind us. Hey you may know old professor eggs but let me tell you about this young on a bit in the first and the first installment that he did he he takes a lover and it's played by Rose Byrne I'm like I don't know how but I got the strong sense that professor x was doing what needed to be done okay absolutely. She was repaired to throw herself into the line of hours. Like it must be bomb. Oh okay so that's that's my view of what James mcavoy brought to Professor X. Put some fire in those wheels and I was like you know what farm I'm into it I mean it. I'm here for it as well. And I think that kind of goes back to just James That earnestness that we talked about this empathy that he puts into his characters And it reminds me. Just go back. To last king of Scotland he didn't interview Around that time cutler came out around two thousand six two thousand seven. I believe and he didn't interview around that time where he expressed his concern about one of the partners that he had in particular sex scene. Who was a Ugandan woman and he was talking about you know. Try To make sure that she felt okay. Being the only person From Uganda in this scene while all these western people Which I think is basically him seeing all these white people watch her. Perform this scene so I wanNA play a little clip. From that. She was she was really wanted that we would actually have to do more and do more than just something. Which which was you know from harmony? She's in this room with all these Westerners and she's the only one that from our country would offset neil looking horrible horrible situation to be in welfare again. The bar is underneath the ground. But isn't it nice when somebody appears to think of other people? Yes yes and I feel like he just brings that into all of his roles that you know. Hopefully he does anyway that he's just trying to make sure that the people that he has to work within scenes The cast and crew are comfortable with what's about to happen and yes the bars in hell but it's still just you know he was young. He was still a young actor at this time so for him to want to make sure that his party scene partner felt safe and secure you know at this early stage of his career. I feel like a significant and that we should give them a little hat to not a cookie. But there's a there's a hat tip a little hot tip that's kind of like not cookie not a focal don't even the crumbs of a cookie but we see you. We acknowledge this one thing. Good Sir I think it's interesting that you mentioned that. That happened very early on in career. Like I haven't necessarily seen like a lot of interviews where he's kind of shown a similar level of awareness or he's thinking about this stuff but it does kind of speak really well hopefully something that he carried on doing. I WANNA kinda reach back a little bit also because There's a film lenny that a lot of a lot of people really love that he did Again towards the beginning of of his career. So this was around. Let's say Two thousand six perhaps. So this is pre this pre kind of atonement and you know post. It's definitely post locking. Scotland's Paul is post started for ten. And it's a movie called penelope or are such a sweet little movie. It's a very sweet little movie. It was A. It's a kind of a weird movie. It's a romantic comedy. That's also a sort of a fantasy and it stars Obviously good Mr mcevoy and Christina Ricci. Who by the way where is she? She was something special. I hope she's fine wherever she's I hope. It's a self inflicted Distance from Hollywood as opposed to something awful. Anyway in this movie Penelope WHO IS CHRISTINA RICCI? She essentially has a sort of a family Curse essentially they. It manifests as I think. It's fine to give the spoiler away. They have the face of a pig and so she basically has this thing that she has to hide and somebody on her tail. Who's trying to kind of figure out you know basically to expose the family and the love interest in this is Mr mcevoy. And he's very very sweet And he's just I don't know the movie itself is not as successful as I would have liked to have been in terms of like conveying all the stuff but I was charmed nonetheless and a good deal of that Tom. Of course it's down to Christina Ricci a good good amount of the also from James mcevoy who is kind of perfect in this movie. You know. Yeah I really I. I saw this movie many years after it first came out and I was surprised that no one had forced me to watch it sooner because I thought it was just really good and really sweet and James mcevoy's character a little a little darling kind of in a little way. He was a darling. And I think there's something about I think there's something about it. Keeps going back to it. He's kind of widdly soft. I'd he has. He reminds me of like A. Cow's is and I don't mean that in any way disrespectfully I mean. They are big and they are full of feeling and and he knows how to deploy them like. He does a very good laziest there. He does a very good kind of soft died. Kind of like just wants to hold you kind of look. He does kind of like intense. Kind of like he's does. He does petrified really well every time. I think about him like playing scared or like full of adrenaline. I am all the way on board even if the surrounding foam is ridiculous as is the case with wanted all split or anything else. I'm just kind of like you know what I believe you. You're GonNa Take Me Iraj mcevoy and I'm ready to kind of go with you and I like how much of that is present in in Vanilla people all these other movies. He gives you so much. He's like he's like a jam multifaceted everywhere you look. There's a new gyms mcevoy emerging and I'm always interested. I think he is one of the most phenomenal. I actors in recent years because like you said he can give you intense just across all the emotions like if you were to Hang in the shadows. So only his eyes were lit. You'll be able to recognize his is would be able to know that's James mcevoy and he is giving me you know logging. He is giving me hatred. He is giving me whatever he tried to promote through is because he is so fucking good with his is like he doesn't have to say anything. You just gotTa Zoom in. Get up close on his face and it's all there yes I that's one hundred percent accurate. I feel like you really zeroed in on the thing that blue cheer dot com up as men performance enhancement over bedroom a blue dot com. You can get the first troubles with the same active ingredients. In Viagra and Cialis Blue Trudeau call positions work with you to find the dosage and active ingredient. That is best. It only takes a few minutes to connect with a blue dot com affiliated physician online and the consultation is free so there is no in person. Doctor visit no awkward conversations. No waiting in line at a pharmacy. It ships directly to your door in discreet packaging. You and your partner will love. It has a great deal for you guys visit Blue True Dot Com and get your first order free when you use the Promo Code. I you just pay five dollars shipping again. That's Blue B. L. E. C. H. E. W. dot com and use. Promo Code I but if we do have to bring in his voice if that is absolutely part of the deal what a voice he has. Oh my gosh. It's so rich Exactly and he modulated like an instrument. So you get like it feels like yeah. He has this one voice books but he can make it do everything so to go back to what you're saying about how he can give you longing you can give you yearning can give you rage hatred his voice now first of all of course there is the matter of his accent he is of course a Glaswegian and He has the accent of the area which we are grateful shutout to diversity of accidents but also it's actually the number of his voice as well is something quite special. He does this thing when it's not. It doesn't all the roles but you notice it when he does whenever he's playing kind of caught up in the sort of rage situation on anger or some kind of like deep passion. He does this thing where he bites out the words away like he's kind of piecing out the sounds like he's giving you it's full of global stops. It's full of it just it. It transports you so effortlessly. Like its aim is for you to hear. Every single sound in each of those syllables. You'll take away is only knew what he's saying and I know what he's feeling and to do that with just your voice so you can imagine him like again to do the opposite where you take away everything but the voice your left. In no confusion there is no you know exactly what he's trying to transmit because he's that skilled with using his voice to kind of to tell you what he needs to say. It's kind of remarkable. Yes and I think We can use it example from Cyrano. The play that we just saw as as the prime example of this because I mean that was one of the things that made me realize. Okay I need to go see this I. I wasn't really interested in going to see the play like I wanted to go see because it's him and you know Cyrano is that I think is an interesting play to begin with So I would. Have you know it was like okay? That's fine but I don't necessarily I didn't necessarily feel like the rush to go see particularly because the production didn't look like something that I would have enjoyed but then they release this trailer of James. Giving one of the the love speeches from the play and I was like going to see this and we have a clip from that. Are you two four? You event like I won't tear rocks and that was a bit when I reached for the cigarette and just exhaled with my full body. Because Oh my God oh my God. It is the pauses it is the Breathing of her name. It is like this trim ious little catch to his voice when he says her name at the end like he puts all of this like he just folds it all together yes and there is a moment when he's doing one of the that particular love speech when of course we're watching in the cinema and they zoom the car the Lacamera in in small increments so that at the climax of the speech. You are in this. Incredibly tight shot off his face and the beginning of his shoulders and at the time I looked around the cinema And I was blown away by how everyone in my row and in the few rows ahead of me were leaning forward as though to watch the words as they fell out of his mouth and after it was don everyone leaned and you could hit a group exhultation. All of us haven't been breathing and then when it was over we just kind of let out this ad in like a massive rush and I wanted to reach across and hold the hand of the woman next and I don't think she would have appreciated it but I was just kind of like so caught up and to find that I was not the only one. This had been a communal feeling of all of us watching raw talent. Just kind of like sweep you up and just like I felt like I was in. I was in the theater in London at the time and all of us were there as well and like. I said the relation afterwards. Everyone just Kinda was just like. Oh my God Mike if like if we were at church like really thirsty church and it was really did and after the performance I went in and I looked on twitter a little bit and so everyone because this was Broadcast across the world. Everyone was talking about that speech Because it was so powerful and it was he was so moving to the speech was incredible And wants to have someone talk to you in that way to confess love to you in a manner. Beautiful it really was my friend. Karen was watching in London as well and she days later was just sending me little bits from it. I'm just saying I'm not well. I'm I'm still unwell. I don't know what to do with myself. This is this week is ruined. There's nothing left and I was like. Yeah same big same. There's something about just the power of IT and again. It's one of those things. I can't stress enough the joy of the communal aspect of it. Because it's the kind of thing that if you're watching it by yourself at home on your laptop or whatever it's like show it's fine. It's moving but it was this collective movements like everyone was just kind of like almost breathing in sync with like the meter of his speech. He has such exquisite freezing. And it's full of so many details that you could probably get a little bit kind of Overwhelmed by like the full speech is kind of like I love you. I need you I go to sleep thinking about you your wake up with your voice in my head. I'm writing letters. Tearing them up humiliating. You might idealising. You're undressing clothing you. I'm kissing you. I'm pressing you against the war like it's so much information and at the end of it it just ends so simply in this again feels like exactly what you said. You want this exultation from from from a lover where he says there is no structure. That can make any sense of this. I just want I want. I Want I want you. And there's something about the purity of that rising all these years later and it just it just makes you feel I feel even now. I'm saying and I feel overwhelmed. Just at the recounting of it But it does so much. Does the most basic thing that you won't poetry to do you want to move you. James mcevoy said Oh I will move you ask and the speech itself is not even explicit. I mean the one line that moved everybody was. I undo the tiny buttons at your wrist bitch. Listen tiny motherfucking buttons. Are You mad from what's what's he I mean it is and then it doesn't overwhelm? I wrote that down in my notebook. I was like bitch buttons. He said he said I do up the tiniest buttons at your sleeve and then the following line is the real fucking kicker he says. I embrace your wrist. Now Orissa's a small thing in the grand scheme of your body but he says I embrace your wrist and you think about moment. He's not talking about your wrist but he is but he isn't and just so much in that he says it. I Undo I I do up the tiniest buttons your sleep and suddenly you think to yourself God i WanNa be a button on asleep like it's just this so like you said. It's advocated this new. The ad no point is talking about. Ross dangled the it's so explicit but the delivery of the is the most sensual thing. I've seen on screen this euro most years. Yes and that's I mean there's so much within what is unsaid and I think that's also like the pauses of his speech in the way. The heat is less his voice kind of sit there let you know what else he's really thinking. You know what's going on. Said he's just. It's just incredible. It really is that. There's a bit for me that really choked me up. Which is when he goes to meet. Roxanne at seven. Am at the Coffee House. And he thinks a declaration is about to come and he's excited. He's delighted he. He cannot wait and he gets there. He finds out of cools that Roxon is in love with Christiaan and so on and Roxanne is unaware of his feelings for her in her excitement to tell him about her lover. Christiaan into to get him to agree to look out for him etc etc. She touches him in the way that friends touch other friends and she does this multiple times. It's a very natural movement for her. She is trying to titillate or anything like that. She is essentially touching her friend and talking to him and every time her hands grasp his His four BICEP. James mcevoy looks down at Roxanne's hand unser news and it's always less than a second. This look and it happens like four or five times everytime she touches him he looks down her hand and he looks up super swiftly but in that moment he looks down he kind of does like a tiny half smile of just like sadness and regret and like. Oughta utter love and then it's gone again because he knows that he showed that face to her but he cannot not be moved by her touching him but he's every time he looked down my heart clenched. I was just like Oracle John. You're doing nothing wrong. And it's killing him. You know like Oh my God I got me. It reminds me a little bit of Atonement When a Fountain Scene Where Cecilia Cure night lease character? She has jumped into the fountain to pick up a piece of the Vase that they've broken in like they've had a little tug of war as so she jumps in and she comes out and of course she's wet in this very provocative moment for both of them. They are trying to deny their feelings for each other. And all this kind of stuff and she runs away back into the house but robby James mcevoy's character comes to the water and he barely touches the water as if you've touched her a now. I'm touching you so that I could have touched her. Oh my gosh you don't you don't see space anything but you just see his hand the slightest of trainers in his hands as such the water. Beautiful it's so he. This is his stock in trade. Like he gives you be small measured monuments. That kind of sweep you up and there is never a mistake as to what he's trying to tell you like it's so clear it's crystal it's like it's the it's the cleanest kind of language there. Is this kind of this. This instinctive knowledge of what he's saying to you and I think really employed like I knew he was a staw- I knew. He had an immense amount of talent. But there's something about this play. I think that employed him he got to do Paphos he got to Botha's he got to do straight up comedy. He got to do a couple of even like fight choreography. Which was thrilling for those of us. Who enjoy that. Shit he got to do sort of He dated everything it was. It was kind of like this. Kind of smorgasbord of stuff. That it okay. What are James's talents? Why don't we bring everything to the fore? And he just did everything. I can't stress enough and and I also. Interestingly enough of someone who his career is so built on playing these kind of slightly. Db SORT of You know slight little man who kind of often get caught up in events bigger than them and so on of course. This is him after. He'd beefed up for the role in gloss which came out last year and I remember the time when the first vote has emerged of him for that movie he had like a shaved head and he was like Fucking Bill. He'd been living in the gym. His neck was like twice the size. It usually is and he was wearing like this tight t shirt and when I saw him come out on stage during Syrian and he was wearing essentially the same costume like a Black T. Shirt black jeans black boots and he had like this little slender little puffer jacket as well upon me. Just oh well. It's nice that you've been in the Gym James. I cannot say that I didn't like it and I thought the fact that he was playing this soldier this by all accounts this kind of aggressive big fighter wildly passionate poet soldier it kind of works and his physicality he was on stage when he was kind of and the way he made himself almost small difference when he was next to. Roxanne and in every other scene he was this puffed up big soldier mind with big with the words and all that stuff but every time it was about Roxanne he would kind of fold himself into a sort of whatever you want on us you know like he became malleable for her and only her in a way that I found just incredibly moving I love his little soccer plan dis. Oh my Gosh He. He was dressed in all black. And Cyrano like you mentioned in his thighs like they could crush me and I want them to five seconds. It really was something special and again he was publicly attractive before and all bodies are good bodies and so on. But yeah there's something about just solidity to the thighs. I was just like mine. Praise God on he do it. I recently saw a movie that he did last year. That did not do well at all and I understand why didn't do well now that I've watched it emergence. What a perfect backhand of a show just. I wanted to watch this because someone had posted a Gif of him kissing his Co Star in that film. Alessia candor as Mike Okay. I didn't hear of this movie. What happened came out in two thousand seventeen. It's considered romantic thriller and You know I'm going to be honest. It's not good not good. I rented it. I spent three ninety nine some written and watch it and I was angry about it. I don't think I paid any attention to it after the first thirty minutes It was just not great and so I think everybody has their does. Every actor has films a collection of films that don't perform. Well maybe they you know the script didn't end up being what they thought. It was going to be wanting onscreen so I can't necessarily say that you should go and watch it but again. It's just proof. He is an incredible kisser at when they Are Making out. She is the one that's kind of like leading the session and it goes back to what you talked about the difference that he has in Cyrano. I'm even an atonement when he's with these With US love interest but he's places characters that let the women that he's with kind of initiate and guide the session then guide the interlude between them in such a way. That it's very. It's a very passionate but delegates balanced between them and it was just You know I'm not gonNA save find to watch just for that scene but if you happen to like stumble across it watch it. Because it's very well done and he's very nervous in. It looks like you know. His character is seems a little nervous about what's about to happen. Which was a little refreshing. So I just I think the he'd really he knows how to I. Don't know just show that it's okay to let women to let the love interest Guide him in that. It could still be a passionate fruitful adventure. When you Kinda step out of your ego and let someone else take control. I love that I love that and I think it's something you've identified. Is something a lot of women have identified with James mcavoy and there was an interview that he did well he went onto. Graham Nelson Show The UK and He was on the Sofa with Daniel Radcliffe. Ak You know young Harry Potter. And they were talking about stuff and there was a whole thing around. interactions with fans. And he's telling the story about this woman that he met at a fancy dress party And he basically anyway. I'll let him tell the story. Do not thing where some people make a list of people famous people that had allowed to have sex with if they meet them free bus right. Yeah she called an allowance pocket money to spend me And so hard on a fella and and then she came up and said After so you're my loans and I was begging Bob. Excuse me you know he's cool with it and you're my thing and By the whole of the story and and I was really taken aback. And I'm married and thank you very much. It's really nice. And then she said this thing it was like it was meant as a compliment and she was trying to get me to do it. We still really did. She went after seventy late. John and Tim your new. I love that so much for that crack alone. You're not getting it. That made me love so hard people. I mean festival man finds a weird they just say should really do what I love. I love his little thing. Just kind of like won't first of all. Thank you very much Vlad. Whatever but anyway the core of it is really what I what you were saying. I think there's something about him. A lot of women have kind of intuitively gleaned and that he is a okay with just like just taking his foot off the gas and let you direct things as it were under something of course as we know wildly attractive about that and again. It's not something you can nail down you just feel it. And he gives off the feeling here he just seems so intimate wow. I'm sorry I'm grinning into my microphone. I'm just I'm just ready. I'm just I'm smiling at the thought of James mcevoy and intimacy. It's lovely and I think that really kind of nails down everything that is First of all about Mr James mcevoy gives you everything you want. Also some of the stuff. You don't expect Yes I like that Thank you so much. Thanks Nicole any final thoughts on James mcavoy. I encourage everybody to go look for the library. Seen in tournaments. If you haven't already because it is one of the best lovemaking scenes on film ever in life. It's yes okay. Say No but choked. Sound of Nicole is the final recommendation. You need to go find the library. Seen in Atonement James Michael boy we salute you if you are in America. Perhaps you're in New York one week just pop by the studio. We'd be very happy to receive so we have done a very thorough discussion on Mr James mcevoy and we have reached the point in the show. Where of course we showcase some wisdom in the form of a dribble A very short little Fantastic segment where we project wildly onto the idea of a I object Nicole. Are you ready? I am ready. I'm ready to hear what you've written for today. You know what I. I don't know what's going to happen with this travel. I know that when I started it I was thinking. What do I like about James mcavoy? And a lot of that had to do with His voice The idea of what his hands can do On the sorts of kind of like an intimacy as as you yourself pointed out the something about him that feels very intimate and so. That's that was what I had in my. That was my mood board when I began Tap tapping away at the struggle. So I'm going to get into it and Yeah all right. Let's see what you think. It's week six. James said lowly as he set his Satchel down at the station next to mine. He bumped my shoulder with his You know what that means. I did know for weeks now. We've been playing this game in which I gave him my number in segments digits a week which he would then incorporate into whatever he had made that week. So far was a slender vase. Embellished with seven's a finger bowl decorated with swirling infinity aides to squat mugs with sleek silvery threes baked into the glaze. Today I was finishing a quarter of teacups minds and L. Gray. James had quit last week and now I was bent over my table. Rolling out delicate worms of clay discarding. The worst of my efforts along the way next to me James going for something much larger a fat bottomed Carafe as far as I could see and he was already focused on his task. We'll turning the muscles of his shoulders bunching but still relaxed fingers loose. So am I guess the last number? He asked in a low murmur or he added after reporters. Will you just give it to me? His voice was Aloma competing only with the methodical Of the wheel I turned my head to face him. A sly look on my face. I could have given you this number weeks ago. I said Oh I know that he said but you like this game and so I do too. He turned his face as he said. This is almost gleaming. I looked at him. The loss number is three. I said Okay. I like getting your number. I'll random what I like the way that you try to you know. Give you a number of these very clever unique styles. Sometimes you WANNA just like visual activities. So yeah that was measuring. I like it. I like thank you. Thank you thank you. I am very excited to hear what you're doing with James This Week. So without much ado. Let's get that out of you. Oh my gosh okay. I hurried through the door in time to see James's friends lowering him not so carefully to the couch. He cursed at them but his speech sounded a bit slurred. I shoot them all. Out of the way and stuff the pillow under his broken leg to elevate it they left quickly there is comically large as they silently relayed those messages men give each other. When they're stupid stunts. Get them into trouble with their partners. I put my hands on my hips and turn to take in James. His filthy bloody soccer uniform ruining my couch and told him as much. It's a football kit woman. He growled at me. A hand sliding up my calf. His eyes were glassy from whatever payments he'd been given and whiskey from the smell of him he taught me closer and I just managed to stop myself from crushing him beneath me. James got a broken leg and are high as a kite. Painkillers now is not the time to be fooling around. My protests grow weaker as he cuts my butt and settles more firmly against the proof that the pain meds had not numb. All of him. He nuzzle into my neck. I'll be dead and ashes in the sea before you stop getting arise out of me and all my worries melted away. That's lovely and disgusting. I try try. He did you achieved you achieved. I love that I love that very very much. Good Work Nicole. Thank you so much. Well we've got Do James and a pottery class you give out your number show. We've got me playing reluctant nurse mate reluctance in court mocks. Yeah the thing that we always say of course is that there are no losers when it comes to fantastic wars because yeah sure you go onto twitter on the Friday after we've put the episode. Sure you take part in our poll selecting which of the dribbles most moved you but ultimately there are no losers what you get a two good original fund fiqh options and you get to enjoy them get to imagine them you get to kind of maybe even cost yourself in a fantastic of your own and then you select one and ultimately you know there's no prize. Nicole and I are very aware and appreciative. Of each other's efforts were encourages. You know we see. This is a real sisterhood. Or are we just going to go? And what have you got this week great? We'll all eat. That's how we feel so go onto our twitter which is at first aid kits on the Friday after the show is out and select. Which is your favorite of the two dribbles but again there are no losers. Were all winners. Right Nicole chat to you I I doubt my cap to you for this week's travel. Thank you but I mean your travel was fantastic as well. Oh no you D- birthday. Kit is a slight production produced by share Vincent and US Nicole Perkins and them at our me. Our music is by Tanya. Morgan you can follow the show on twitter at first aid kits and we are on Tumbler at first aid kit. Podcast TUMBLER DOT COM. We appreciate all of our thirsty. Live tweeter if you want to join in. Please use the Hashtag Tack Pot. That's T. A. K. P. O. D. Or you could write us an email at first aid kit at slate DOT com. If you want to use Augusta Amalia service. Please just send us a short. And we mean really short message. The number is five one zero nine eight four four seven seven eight. That's five one. 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GSMC Movie Podcast Episode 264: It's Showtime, Baby!

GSMC Movie Podcast

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GSMC Movie Podcast Episode 264: It's Showtime, Baby!

"Can't decide in torn between a romantic comedy action or an indie film to watch for the weekend. Well well golden state media concepts move you. Podcast is your ultimate guide to the latest movies. Join us as we dissect the latest. On the block busters. It's the golden state media. Concept's movie podcast Hello and welcome to the gmc movie. Podcast brought to you by the gmc podcast network. I'm your host. David peppers and i am very excited for this weird and literary and theatrical episode so i have been going back through the backlog of twenty twenty films that i was meaning to catch up on them in number actually got around to and i decided to watch netflix's the half of it which originally released at the beginning of may of last year i just watched it and i just wiped all of the tears off so we are going to do an episode somewhat. I guess inspired by this episode but also kind of inspired by the other three and doing a series of four reviews of twenty twenty films that were adapted from the stage. I love theater i love dramas. And i love musicals. So i'm very excited to do for reviews of the half of it one night in miami marei knees black bottom and then finishing off with the prom. So let's just jump right into it. The half of it is written and directed by alice. Blue most known for being the writer director of saving face which came out fifteen years prior and having not seen saving face but it almost immediately jumping to the top of my watchlist. Now it is if that movie is half as good as the half of it is pun. I guess intended it's lazy pun. If it is then. I am stunned and a little infuriated that it took so long for her to get another film. The half of its stars leah lewis as ellie. Chew a young extremely bright and very antisocial chinese emigrant of first generation. I believe she was born in china. Came over to america at around age. Five and she's gay and she does not seem to accept or really acknowledge that fact about herself but at some what comes to a head when her business quote unquote of writing other people's essays for them takes a turn when paul a player who is very sweet. And kinda stupid duran says. Hey one of the most popular girls in my school. This girl named aster. I'm in love with her. She's the person i want to be with for the rest of my life. Can you help me write her. A love letter. Ellie says sure. I need the money and it starts off this pretty pretty honestly really funny story of these three people and their lives intersecting in a way that very few of them completely understand. It's a loose retelling of the classic cyrano de debre's wreck with ellie in the role of the of the well in in the original the disfigured cyrano de slowly teaching paul how to how to woo this girl that she is secretly discovering that she has feelings for as well in probably much more genuine and honest feelings than paul has so telling this sort of story with the modern slant both in terms of teenage tech savvy but also with a very large amount of positive representation both four chinese characters and also for young gay and lesbian characters which can often get into this weird dichotomy in stories where you either get the very. I still maintain charming. But pretty milk toast stuff like love simon or the hard hitting everything is miserable stuff like propect mountain or moonlight and while all homes have their place. I think a lot of people have started to really hunger for for stories being told that are more honest and not absolutely miserable and i think that is one of the greatest things that the half of it really achieves. Because i was laughing the entire time. And i had the happy cries a a good a good few times but outside of a few moments that start to kind of presumed that this is gonna turn into your standard acceptance verses people's bigotry type of story it really quickly glosses over it honestly i would say the film's biggest. Failing is that when everything comes to a head and the inevitable climax. There are a few decisions that i don't think totally work or aren't at least expanded upon and it kind of flirts with the idea of making this a story about people overcoming their bigotry. But it's such a small almost meaningless development of the plot that i'm not entirely sure why they decided to go that route if for no other reason than to just kind of give the audience something to be concerned about. Because i don't know about y'all but i am kind of at a point. Where if i'm being told a story about people's close mindedness. Then i kinda wanna know just so i can emotionally prepare for that because that's hard stuff to watch i am. I'm not the victim of that of that level of hatred or just ignorance but it is never easy to watch it especially when you've seen it so many times over and over and over again and there have been films that have much more empathetic and much more sustainably dealt with these topics and bring it up or you almost harp on that small issue of this movie because there is very little else that i think it does wrong. Leo lewis as ellie. Chu is fantastic. This is kind of a teen star making role that she absolutely inhabits with that sort of inner fire that she that just begs to be let out. Daniel damer as paul is also doing a very good job. But i think how the character is kind of sloppily written in some of the later scenes. Don't give him the most to work with. He is at his best in the first half of the film when it is him being clueless and paul and ellie kind of having their back and forth straight woman and clueless guy routine. That is honestly really funny and alexis. Lemaire as astor doesn't have a ton to do. She is for the most part the object but as the film goes along sola gives her a character arc of her own. It's not as well defined as the other two but she does well with what she has to work with. But clearly the star of this movie and the most notable performance is lee. Lewis as ellie. Chew although. I do wanna shout out for a brief second becky and who plays a teacher. She doesn't have a lot to do here. And she's a little quickly for my taste but she was in freaks and geeks and i really like freaks and geeks so it's always nice to see her doing some more things than and getting some more work but the people here to praise our alice wu her screenplay is tight and funny and probably a little too in love with how much knows about philosophy and wim wenders films and eastern literature or european literature. I should say that's that's what they really focused on. However i am also really pretentious. And i enjoy a lot of the pretentious aspects of this film and it makes it feel alive and it makes it connect to me and the lives of my peers. Because we would do this kind of thing. We would go back and forth on the sort of grain statements about life that unfortunately everyone has done a thousand times before in everyone has thought over to death but there is the the almost naivete about about coming to those ideas with such enthusiasm. That really makes this movie. Come to life and feel so incredibly honest throughout its entire run time while the cyrano connection does loosen up farther and farther as the movie goes along i think for the better there have been a lot of films that have pushed up against the source material that they're making the teen version of to the point where the movie itself starts to suffer by trying to fit those beats so well but here it it embraces the looseness of the loose retailing as wikipedia has it listed in order to make a movie that is its own and is if not terribly unique at least it is a film that means what it says and that has an incredibly large heart and wants the best for everyone. There has been some criticism of this film that it isn't the sort of film that the trailers were presenting and it isn't the sort of happy ending romantic comedy that makes everything totally workout for everyone in the end and that is true it is a more bittersweet story. But there's a quote from leah. Lewis that i want to that i went to read here. She said most people think a love story has an equation. And that's usually boy meets girl girl meets boy or girl meets girl however in this case it's a self love story because these characters don't really end up with each other but at the very end they end up with something for me. That's even more valuable than just finding your other half. It's finding a part of yourself along the way it is a love story. It's just not a romance story. Leo lewis with teen vogue interview date first of may twenty twenty. And i think that's a pretty incredible distillation of how this film moves ford and the type of story that it wants to tell it is a positive and kind story but it is not about happy endings. It is coming of age saying the goal of the film is to get these characters to a point where they can find happiness not that they are going to gather happiness themselves and use. That was those sorts of stories are disheartening. When you're in high school or when you're about to go into high school in you're looking for something to tell you you just have this one hurdle left and then you will find joy. I'm pausing for laughter. 'cause i'm sure you're laughing now at that at that absolutely ridiculous thought but as we grow older and as i've grown older it starts to become very clear that that is not how anything works that this period of life that these characters are in that we are reliving through viewing mary. Experiences is not the end all be all your life doesn't finish in high school unless tragedy has struck but the arc of a person's life barely getting through the first act by the time high school is over and despite the hundreds of people who told me that i didn't believe them not truly it takes time and it takes growth and it takes being able to laugh at yourself and you're absolutely foolish and headed mistakes and order to fully realized that and that's really cool. Maybe there is something to be said for the half of it being a movie about youth made by people looking back on it fondly. It is not. It doesn't have the exuberance or the impossibility that some of the most beloved teen films has it is aware it is to a degree cynical but it has such a love for these characters and it is in all almost of the naievety that they show that. I think there's a lot of power to be had here and forgive me for. I guess kind of hinting at the ending through the through the louis quote. It's terribly surprising. And being all things considered there are about one there about two and a half ways of the movie can go and spoiler alert. It goes one of those ways. There isn't some horrific awful twist that bogs. The whole thing down reeks tradgedy on. Everyone's lives. It's just a movie that wants to tell a story and give an idea. I think it does that very very well by coming out at the halfway point or near the halfway point of last year the half of it did not appear on a lot of top ten lists or best. The earless rundowns mostly. Because may i twenty twenty feels like it happened. I don't know maybe like seven hundred eighty years ago. But i think if you like me are in the january drought. And you've seen most of the big awards films and you're looking for things to watch and enjoy and really connect to this. Movie is still on netflix. And it's a netflix film. So it'll be around for as long as net flicks is. I think you should do yourself a favor and give it a shot. Not just because it's funny not just because it's sweet and not just because it has a lot of really powerful representation moments that are extremely successful. Will i say representation moments. The movie is the representation moment just by virtue of existing. But there's a lot here and it's good and it's nice. It's a nice movie and it makes you feel good when you're watching it even when things go poorly and i like that and i liked this movie. The half of it gets nine out of ten stars now if you'll stick around. We have three theatrical adaptations to go and we are going to move all the way down for one night in miami so stick around for that want to know the latest and hot hottest music hidden in the air waves be left out listened to the golden state media concepts music. Podcasts loop with everything you need to know from pop rock hiphop top floor and we'll throw in news of your favorite artists concert and tour dates and so much more listener further because this is the gold standard in music. Podcast and now. Let's move on to an amazon original film. That is coming out on prime video on the fifteenth of this month. One night in miami. This film is the direct. To'real debut of actress regina king who has really blown up over the past couple of years with her oscar. Winning role in if beale street could talk in her role on the hbo continuation of watchmen. She has just been having an incredible last few years. And this film is no exception based off of the stage play of the same name by kemp powers who also the adapted screenplay ami covers a fictionalized meeting between malcolm x. mohammed ali. Jim brown and sam cook in a miami hotel room in nineteen sixty four after mohammed. Ali's title win over sonny liston. What immediately makes one night miami. Such a different and exciting film is that while. It doesn't necessarily waste any time trying to explain. Educate people on who these men are and why they're important society it. It does something that i really really like. Where it gives you the reference points of the most famous of the four men and then kind of goes down the list to the point where you based on their interactions with the more notable characters can really get a full picture of the fictionalized versions of these incredibly important men. So for me. The two the four that i was familiar with where malcolm x. Mohammed ali much more famous with the work and philosophies of malcolm x. just because. I'm interested in history and interested in politics so based off of how jim brown and sam cooke especially interact with him and kind of bounce off of him philosophically. It is really easy to understand where each character is coming from and what their place is in history. And i think that's just really really cool. You know while the meeting of these four men at least as depicted it's fictional. all four of these people did know each other and were friends with one another so there is almost the fly on the wall. Sensibility of this is fictional. But probably not. There's a very good chance something at least somewhat similar to this imprimis happened in real life which gives the movie the again. It's just that fly on the wall experience or at least that feeling of it there is it. it feels. Like you're watching history but dramatize in using just enough creative license where everyone understands both the filmmakers and the audience that it never actually went down like this but that doesn't really matter the only other film that has done something like this with historical characters. I would say a steve jobs which also does the thing of putting a bunch of characters that did know each other and were interacting in a time period. Saying we're just going to write the rest of this and everyone is on the same page that this may be happened. But it's not trying to be exact. It's not trying to be the type of story. That is a history lesson this movie if anything else is a philosophy lesson and i say that because the majority of the conversation because as this was adapted from a stage play a lot of it is taking place inside of this hotel room. The conversations being had predominantly around a person's individual responsibility to being a figure in the world as a young african american men in the nineteen sixties which was not a great time to be a young african american man. If for no other reason than the simple fact that at least one of these people were shot not terribly far after the events of this home took place. It's about responsibility. And it's a clash of these four men arguing over if they have that responsibility and if so what they do with it and if you are not living up to your full potential as some larger than life impossible figure. Are you a traitor. Are you a failure or you just trying to be a human being. Where is the line between being a human being and being figure and the interesting meta text of the film is that these are all larger than life figures after doing reading and talking to my friends. That know more than i do about jim brown and sam cooke they have a lot of pull and a lot of history in the world of sports in the world of music worlds that i'm not terribly well versed in have a great influence integrate power and is this is really. It's a really cool movie. it's an it's an interesting way of discussing history and discussing greatness without lionising people or making them out to seem like something other worldly or impossible not to replicate but to learn from. It's the structure of steve jobs with the writing of any david mamat scripts and the ideas of something like my andre but with two extra people thrown into the mix to just make it an even more conflicting and volatile battle of ideology and battle of purpose. I say battle because it's these different theories of life going up against each other and in the friction clash that comes from that however it's it's never animus it doesn't have hate for one another at least these people are all friends and they do love each other and you get that especially through the performances malcolm x. was played by kingsley. Bene- deer who. I want to see in every movie. He is fantastic here. Mohammed ali played by ellie gory. Jim brown is played by aldis. Hodge and sam cooke is played by leslie odem junior. Who honestly. I'm just very happy. Can prove that he is also good at being movies movies in addition to being on stage. If you don't know leslie. Junior played aaron burr on the broadway cast of hamilton and also in the disney plus film which is a recording of the original broadway cast. But you know yeah. And while it is easy to discuss the films philosophies and what it's trying to say and what it represents and i think there is a lot of incredible in that and also a lot of value in talking about how good the actors are in portraying these characters but making them the making them proper characters as opposed to just historical figures. Imbuing each of them with a life and vitality that feels natural infield organic to this film and to the story being told as opposed to just pale limitations. I do want to give a special shout a special bit of praised to regina king because for a first time director to make a film that is not flashy that is not obvious and that does not prides itself on being a film with a director which i do feel a lot of especially first time directors. Ken do or at least first time dramatic directors. Some and. I think this can happen a lot. When comedy directors go into more dramatic visas. We've seen this with films like green book. Joker where they really push hard on the being directed and it makes everything feel artificial and overwrought and it makes the performances it kind of crushes them a little bit where they pop out in weird places and never really find their own shape here. There is such a confidence with knowing that you can't do a lot of crazy stuff in a movie that mostly takes place in a single hotel room so she finds ways to make it breathe and make it feel alive without ever making it flashy and it's not a pretty film. It's a very pretty film. But the actual direction and the placement of the camera and the guiding hand over the actors is something that i would not necessarily expect from a veteran director who has been doing this for decades outside of the really good ones. Obviously and i cannot wait to see what regina king does next both as an actress and as a director and i don't necessarily wish for her to stop doing one to appease the other and maybe she should just do them both in harmony. I don't know but either way. It is clear that this somewhat renaissance or newer audience for her is proving is proving very useful because she is extremely talented in basically everything she seems to do. I'm curious if she can write as well. Because sheikh sure as hell can act and she shares hell can direct. This film premiered at venice this year. Being the first film ever by an african american woman at the venice film festival and that alone should probably belabor one night miami's overall point by discussing the world in nineteen sixty four and by using these people that are to varying degrees staples of twentieth century american. History it should belabor the point that there is still work to do and that telling these stories and having people talk about the world and the history. In the way that regina king and writer ken powers do here is not only valuable and not only extremely entertaining and watchable but necessity of the value of film and the value of art and the art means something and that we can't just sit back and let it wash over us like some passive entertainment. I've seen this a lot with amazon studios films despite my grievances with something with even more things being taken over by the iron grip of amazon as a production company or at least a distribution company. The film had the films have done a great job of not being passive entertainment. They have not been the stories that just exist. They have meaning and the exist to talk about things. And i'm just really glad that these types of movies are being made and that more and more people are watching them and while i do miss the theatrical experience for a film like one night miami and a lot of amazon original films have been getting smaller and smaller releases before they're streaming debuts i think as the world opens up and as more and more stories are being pushed exclusively under digital distribution especially exacerbated by this year the idea that more people are watching and discussing and enjoying works of art and works of history and works of conversation and philosophy like one night. Miami is an incredibly good thing. This is not a film. I believe i. This is not a film that makes me wistful for the theatrical experience. It is a movie that makes me angry. The due to the film not being rated. Pg it probably will not be shown in schools nearly as much as it should or if it is shown in schools it's only shown in colleges or the really cool high schoolers or in the really cool high schools. I should say and yeah. The film is rated r. It's got some language but there is such power and potency and eye-opening nece to this film and films like it films that actually discuss things and treat the audience with a personal and a historical reverence for knowing. Exactly what it's doing one night in miami gets nine out of ten stars so now if you'll continue to stick around and thank you so much for sticking around as you have. We are going to move on to a review of the adaptation of the orchestra. Wilson play ma rainey's black bottom before finishing off with a review of the adaptation of the broadway musical. The prom says stick around for that tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. The golden state media concepts podcast network is here nothing less than a podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast covered from news sports music fashion entertainment fantasy football and so much more. So stop looking around and go straight out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to build that podcast is whatever it may be visit us at. Www dot jesus mc podcast dot com. Follow us on facebook and twitter and download on itunes soundcloud and google play Only and now we're going to move on to a review of film that unfortunately has a bit of a sadder tint to the discussion around it. Ma rainey's black bottom directed by george c wolfe and written by ruben santiago. Hudson based on the play of the same name by august wilson. And this film as you probably know has a bit of a sad tint to it because the film is led by viola davis and the late great chadwick boseman in his final film role. He has a guest voice role on an episode of marvel's what if coming out later this year on disney plus but outside of that this is boseman's last physical performance and his last role. Which sucks sucks a great deal. Actually as most people know boseman passed at the end of august at age. Forty three and was really really good at being an actor and before i actually talk about this film. I think it's a little bit necessary or at least a little bit. Appropriate to reflect on this film and almost serendipity of this actor and playwright having his swan sung be in an adaptation of one of the great american playwrights in august wilson august. Wilson in film is probably best known for writing the play that the film fences was adapted. From which is a quite good film. That is almost an exact retelling of the play. It is extremely close to how that play is actually set up and if you haven't read fences it's a really good read and it is a powerful powerful piece of writing. I do not recommend reading it. If you're fifteen because i read it when i was fifteen and i didn't totally get it and that's on me but i'm older and better now but ma rainey's black bottom is another wilson play and it tells the much like in one night in miami fictionally story of a real person of blues singer. Ma rainey considered one of if not the mother of modern blues in nineteen twenty. Seven is getting ready for a recording session where she is going to record a number of songs for a record label including the titular song. Ma rainey's black bottom played by the davis and davis as we all know is also really really good at at being an actress and she has such an arrogance and ego and righteous power to the performance. That just captivates the screen and makes even the most specific end. Almost unrealistic demands feel earned or at least earned in her head and with august. wilson's words. You need actors that good to make the somewhat abrasive and almost comically confrontational dialogue. Feel real and that's why we have. People like denzel washington in fences and viola davis and fences and viola davis here and chadwick. Boseman plays the trumpeter in marines band. A fictional character levy green and man. Boseman is really really good here. It is most likely that he is going to be nominated for an oscar for this film. And it's most likely that he's going to win. And while in magic objectively land. It's not my personal favorite male performance of the year. That's still goes to resume ed for sound of metal. I have no qualms with him winning. Apparently he's also great in defy bloods which i still have not seen. Because i'm bad at my job. But i plan on watching at some point before the oscars whenever they inevitably come around but the structure of this film follows these two hotheads. One earned through success and one less so earned as they clashed with each other and clash with the production company and the members of the band and everything in between trying to make the best record possible levy wants to rewrite everything and give it that soulful flair and ma wants to keep everything the exact same in have everything the way that she knows it is and should be because it's her sung in her classic unlike when night miami however moving away from the stellar performances. The movie gets into a bit of an issue when adapting. August wilson to the screen. And it's a similar issue that happened with denzel. Washington's adaptation of fences wilson liked to play with space. And i feel like a lot of filmmakers. When adapting wilson will rest on the various setting changes used in the original taxed and not playing with it in its own right i have not read the original stage. Play of marines black bottom and i i should at some point and probably do some good comparisons between it and the film however having read fences and seen it it has a lot of the same pitfalls that i found in that film where it is very comfortable to both in the words and in how the camera is used and how space is used to leave a lot up to the audience there is. There are a few rooms and a bit of an exterior in this film. Because it all takes place for the most. I say all for the most part like five percent of it takes place directly inside of this single recording building with four percents taking place in one percent being the final shot taking place elsewhere which is a extremely good final shot. I will say but there's no geography to any of it. There's no tactile feeling. It feels like a single stage with the walls being interchanged and telling the audience to just imagine and while that works on stage. And that's why wilson's work has prevailed for so long he gets. He understands how to use the elements of a theatrical stage properly and while that is admirable and makes for a very good theater. It doesn't make for necessarily great cinema whereas regina kings work in one night in miami is very deliberate and intentional about maneuvering the camera and altering scenes just specifically enough to give it that cinematic flair and make it feel lived in honest in a way that cinema truly can be here it is content to show you what is in the text. It's not that marange. Black bottom is a poorly directed film. It said it's not a very much directed film. There isn't a lot of directing happening here. It is solely resting on the performances. And the words. And if you're gonna arrest on performances and worried you would do a lot worse than to rest on viola davis and chadwick boseman and august wilson. That being said there has to be a better way to tell these kinds of stories outside of doing the oven guard. Style of the dustin hoffman death of a salesman where you can see the cracks in the walls because it's all fake and it's all telegraphed. There have to be ways to make movies about plays that. Don't scream. just read the play or just go see a performance of it because if it weren't for the performances here if it weren't for viola davis has great performance chadwick boseman maybe giving the best performance of his career. Here there would be little reason to watch this movie over just watching a film stage play and not not to discredit stage player even the filmed versions of them. Because theater is an somewhat elitist medium and it's important to share things to the masses and usually that can only be done through filmed recordings. That's why things like. The hamilton recording are so popular. They have different strengths and they have different weaknesses and when the strengths of theater is brought exclusively into cinema they become weaknesses for the most part. There's not a lot of cinematic language. It's just winding up the toy and letting it run. That said it's resting on good stuff. It really cannot be belabored how electric boseman is in this role. And how much of a true blue movie star he really is. He is impossible to pull. Your eyes from leaney is not a likable character. In any regard and bozeman. I would argue even more so than davis brings a life in fear and a desperation to the character. That doesn't even necessarily make him likable but makes him so painfully human in a performance. That brings the film. I would argue to life but also it just makes it. It just makes it worth watching the reason why you should watch ma rainey's black bottom and i think that you should the reason you should watch. It is because chadwick. Boseman is good in it. There is very little other reason to to put on this film. And that's an absolute shame because there is so much you can do with a text as a rich and characters as different and colliding as these two and also all of the other characters sure the the stage is commanded by bozeman in davis. But it's not a film exclusively about those two. There are a lot of other players in the rotation here but they never feel utilized. They feel placed to maximize your eyeliner to these two. Because that's how you position actors in theater. You place them in a way that the island naturally goes to. Who's ever speaking. You can practically see these performers stepping to beat down stage in order to deliver their lines and while the theater kidding me does like it and i do in some way really enjoy and always appreciate the artificiality of it. I don't think it was intentional. And i don't think i should give a lot of props to an unintentional amount of artificiality. Even if it's something that i personally enjoy marines black bottom is a good movie and i like it but i don't like it as a movie. If that makes sense i think as a filmed stage reading of this play. It is exceptional but i think as a piece of cinematic art. It does not succeed and if it weren't for the strength of the original taxed and the strength of its two central performances. There will be little to recommend. And i know i'm going in hard on this but it. It should be said that even though i really really enjoy this movie and i highly recommend you watch it especially if you're not terribly familiar with the text. There is very little reason as a film that it should be the way that it is and that is a distressing and disappointing thing. Ma rainey's black bottom despite all of my criticisms despite all of my complaints get seven and a half out of ten stars. Rest in peace chadwick. Boseman you went out with grace and strength and by proving to the entire world time and time again that you are incredibly incredibly good at what you do and i really want to get a hand on. Some of the plays that he wrote. Because i didn't even know that he was a playwright but wrote a couple and apparently some of them are quite good. And i want to do some reading. So if you'll stick around for the final review of this. Theatrical extravaganza is four a review of the netflix adaptation of the prom. So stick around for that. It will not be as positive as these last. Three reviews have been So we've spent about forty five minutes together today talking about how good theories and talking about how when it is adapted at the screen while some adaptations are more successful than others in some are looser than others there is a lot of power to be found storytelling as we knew it was built on the stage and before we even were able to write things down we were performing and telling stories via actors and dialogue and i love it and if there's anything i love more than theater it's musicals its musical theater and i truly think the musicals are the best. There are a time that i listen to almost every single day. Just to put me in a good mood or to make me feel something stuff like haiti's town next to normal the last five years to some of the classics i guess the modern classics is stuff like little shop of horrors are even rent. But every now and again. There is a musical usually. I've figure it out because of a film adaptation and it's bad and it's really really bad today to finish off this episode. We are talking about the prom adapted from the twenty eighteen musical of the same name by chad. Beg lyn and bob martin and matthew sklar the prom did not get incredible reviews upon its broadway debut. It was generally seen as a bit self aggrandizing in overindulgent. I can see their point the first note at least for me that the problem was going to be a bit of a mixed bag to say the very least was that it was one of the many projects being headed by ryan murphy who is most known for his work on programs like american horror story or glee and if you don't know glee while Honestly charming and full of a lot of very attractive young talent. Kind of put a bit of a damper on the musical theater scene for many years because it was seen as this overly peppy. Solis rehashing of things just to be fluff. And i think as we've proven today theater is is so much more than just that meaningless fluff the musicals that i've mentioned not even to bring up everything stephen sondheim ever did. There is a lot of value here and there is a lot of importance so to come to the problem with that much. Love for the art of theater. In the art of musical theater to be hit in the face with a tone-deaf vaguely offensive deeply misguided and ultimately so fluffy and without any substance that it's practically dissolving in your hands. I am upset. I'm really really mad. This movie is the way that it is for those who don't know the prom stars. Meryl streep james corden nicole. Kidman andrew rannells keegan michael key. Carrie washington and introducing jo ellen. Perelman perelman plays. Emma nolan a high school student from indiana who upon asking if she could take her girlfriend to her school. Prom causes a giant. Pta storm wherever gets mad and carrie washington as the pta. Leader says a bunch of just truly horrible things before canceling the school's prom you know making all the bullying worse the bullying that statistically effects lgbt plus youth far more than the non lgbt plus youth. Yes it's great optics. For down on their luck broadway actors played by streep corden kidman and rannells find this 'cause on twitter and in a somewhat desperate bid to get some notoriety back and get some good press storm the indiana parent teacher association meeting. And say this is our 'cause now and we are going to make sure you don't do the bad thing and over the course of the film. They grow a nice relationship with the young girl in with her. Carrying principal played by keegan. Michael key and everyone eventually learns to love each other the first thing about the prom. That feels already very out of place. Is that the original. Musical was inspired by a real life incident. That happened in the early twenty tens. It was tragic and honestly kind of despicable. It happened in twenty ten. It was in mississippi and a young woman asked if she could take girlfriend to the high school prom and they cancelled the prom and then parents organized a secret prom for all the other students. Aside from the girl in question. It's it was awful and deeply disturbing to read about even now and the reason why it's deeply disturbing to read about is because it was in twenty ten and we were generally a lot less aware of you know. Non straight people being human beings as a world and as a populous so it feels almost like looking back to a darker weirder more upsetting time in twenty twenty. There are a lot bigger issues and while we have gotten nowhere near close to the amount of necessary acceptance and understanding for people that not fit into the strict gender sexual orientation roles. It's not this comical. If you're going to make a movie in the modern age about these issues you have to come out with a little more nuance i know. The murphy is an out and has been for many many years gay man and he has made some really good stuff that has actually dealt with these issues his adaptation of larry kramer's the normal heart is a fantastic movie. He produced the remake of the boys in the band earlier. This year. There is stuff that he has been involved with it as dealt with these topics with the nuance that they deserve. And i don't know if the problem is going for satire or to make us hate these four broadway character. Is that just storm in and say we know what's gonna fix everybody but that's how it comes off. These people are despicable and selfish and cruel. The only real moments of humanity come with keegan michael key and joel and perelman. Is emma. both of them for what it's worth. Do a very good job jo ellen. Especially she has some songs and here where she is singing and acting her heart out and her singing is. I will say a lot better than her acting. But that's fine. She's relatively new and honestly with a role like this. It's more important that your voices great and her voice is great but everything else around this film. The the glitz and the glamour and the attempts at comedy. Or god forbid any social relevance just fall so flat in so uninspired what makes musical feeder so good as someone who has done it for most of his life in school and community theaters and just singing show tunes with friends. Drunk on the floor. There is a feeling of being home. And i know that that feeling is magnified. Ten fifteen twenty. Fold for my many friends who are performing alongside with me with types of secrets or these types of identities if they were lucky enough to be in a family that would accept them if they were open about it. there's a lot of power in show tunes. there's a lot of beauty in it. And what makes the prom so callous and so unnecessary to me. Is that it breezes past them. It is the kid in the back of the class who needed an extra curricular to they signed up for the show and they got the lead because they were pretty and they were flat on all the notes and everybody knows that but nobody cared enough to stop it. and yes. i'm being elitist and overprotective and as somewhat objectively a jerk about musical theater. And i have been my entire life and i'm not necessarily proud of it but it's what you have to do for a place and a people that made you who you are. And while i understand the inherent irony or even past irony ignorance and cruelty of me discussing this film in that specific way when it is trying so hard to create that sort of safe space and that sort of oasis from the world. I can't even take it seriously doing that. Because james corden's performance here as a gay man is absolutely ridiculous. And i'm not saying that straight actors can't play gay characters a that's not my job to say and be that's not my job to say but here it is so obnoxious and simplistic can tacky his terrible american accent doesn't add anything to that fact but the whole film seems designed to water down and remove any nuance from what musical theater can be to try and sell it to your aunt but the thing about trying to sell something like this to your aunt. Is that as soon as you make. Even the slightest adjustment in the direction of we should probably be good to people and nice to people that are different from us. You've already lost them. The premise by virtue of existence is not going to hit the people. They think it's going to hit. We are long past these an overtly sincere please for human decency. We need stories about real people. That's what the half of it was. We don't need this anymore. This isn't one thousand nine hundred eighty five. This isn't a place where your stories about nine straight people are seeing as this other worldly and shocking thing it just feel so callous and so calculated and so it feels so empty in a way that i wasn't expecting to have such an emotional reaction to and in the way that i'm still not fully understood. Stallone fully understand my emotional reaction to it. Forgive my propensity to the jump into past tense. When i'm uncomfortable because this movie does make me uncomfortable. It makes me question my place. It makes me question. If i'm even the right person to be mad about a film like this. It makes me question if i was a little bit wrong in putting so much faith in anything that has show tunes but you know what i did honestly in the middle of watching this movie i deposit. I listened to the final few tracks from the original broadway cast recording of next to normal. It's my favourite show. It's a tale of a mother with bipolar depression. Her husband who has no idea what is going on their daughter. Who is such an obsessive overachiever. She's about to explode on the spot and visage of their dead son. Who died the baby. It is one of the greatest pieces of storytelling. I've ever heard. And i sincerely hope that one day i will be lucky enough to see it live and it reminded me now. Musicals are good. They always have been always will be because sometimes. You just have to sing the thing. That is too painful to say ensure the problem may look at music is only have so much love and happiness and energy in your heart. That's when you gotta sing. But no that's not that's not what it's for. It's here to give you a place to sing when words do not convey a fraction of what you feel. Listen to the next to normal. Original broadway cast recording at some point. If you get a chance to. It's very very good. The prom gets one out of ten stars. This has been the gmc movie. Podcast brought to you. By the gmc podcast network. 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"January twenty ninth twenty twenty one from alcohol in san diego california. This is episode. Two hundred twenty five of you can bet on that tape. Hi everybody welcome to. You can bet on that podcast or the recreational camera. My name is mark of all sitting safely at his. Home is dr mike mike. How you feeling doing okay doing okay. I just bit stuffed up. I you've been awhile and now you know back was out now. I'm just congested as all hell boy always something well this. That's why we're a day late here just Wanted to give mica chance to completely recover. So he'd be one hundred percent for the show. yeah. I'm never one hundred percent one hundred percent since i was like thirty six. Hey have we had any action at the casino lately. I guess you. And i have been out there together in a while i went with my son and just played some gaining but nothing really to speak of. No we've been laying low trying to avoid getting sick. Hey by sunday. I went to that Mexican restaurant at hair southern california. You've been there before right. Yea we've eaten there a few times my wife and i yeah. We really liked it. You know it's yeah we've gone to. They've got kind of a to go area there. That's made up like a taco truck like a food truck and it's it's different. It's a different kitchen. It's not you know so. Yeah we really liked it. Probably the best place to eat. If you're going out there by far. I think that's the best place to eat okay. I'll back that up as well. I mean based on only going there once but compared to some of the other places. We've been yeah. It's just kind of by the pool area. Mexican restaurants called redes- cantina. We are in san diego mark. So i think you can't go wrong with mexican food. Generally if you go to a restaurant mexican restaurant here in san diego you're gonna get good food. I'm not gonna say all the time. I can think of some exceptions but even yeah in general if you want good mexican food and if you want real authentic mexican food you can get that too. Oh for sure there are plenty of places around here there's the taco bell food yup. There's the mexican restaurants in and then there's the authentic get all of those descending on you know and in some cases you can go to taco bell and get your kids at taco and then get real mexican food right down the street exactly yes. They're right by each other. So you don't have to go all the way down to tijuana you can actually just drive down the street. Don't tell me are not getting the tacos from taco bell as well. Well you know what i'm getting lately. The new beef burrito they have for a buck that is the best deal on the planet. I mean it's pretty good size and it's filling so you can get to those and for two bucks your full well. We talked about on a previous episode. I get those boxes. Whatever the boxes featured month it's so much food it's a much food. Yeah it's a great deal now. I know we're tuten taco bells horn here and my daughter bring up the fact that like three or four years ago i swore i'd never eat a taco bell own. I wonder what brought the head on. Oh just i went to one. That's kind of near our house. It's not the closest second closest to our house. This service was just terrible on the food was crummy and i said that's it. I'm not going back. But then you know i mean a dollar burrito. You can't beat that all right. Well this is a podcast about gambling. So let's move on past fast food and mexican food. And what have you. So we've talked about on several episodes but back in october. San manuel casino. This big mistake where people who were promised a certain amount in free play actually got one hundred times that amount in other words if you were guaranteed five hundred dollars you were given fifty thousand dollars showed up on the slots and people tried to play through as much as they could before salmon well caught on and put an end to it. We got an email from listener drew. He wanted to know what strategy we would employed on the craps table if we had been the lucky recipient of the air. And so i'm just gonna read what he says here. Let's pretend you had mistakenly been given one hundred thousand dollars free play and needed to convert it to real money as quickly as possible before the casino corrected. They're only using a craps table given those circumstances. What specific betting strategy would you use to pocket as much money as possible before time ran out. Now let's just start by saying that. The air that happened was basically just on machines video poker and slot machines if we were to go up to a craps table and we got one hundred times what we were supposed to. Oh yeah let me have a hundred thousand dollars worth of chips. It probably would have been shut down right there so that would be the whole bankroll chips right right. So we're going to have to really use our imagination here and pretend like nobody. Nobody working at the table realized that maybe something was up and we went up to the table with all this free play that we had to convert so. Let's assume that you know we can't just cash and we have to convert it into real chips. Any idea how. You'd play dr mike. Well i'll tell you one of the things would depend on. So if they give you those fake chips like they do it. Harrison california for free play And they give you denominations so you get it at the cage and they asked you. Do you want five twenty fives or you can have hundreds so you'd probably take hundreds right now. Or whatever the highest nomination they had if we're talking one hundred dollars right right. Maybe they'd have five hundred vary cyrano infre- a you know. They might not even have hundreds. But i might not even have enough for hundred few. I'll tell you what let's again. We have to make a lot of assumptions here to answer this question. So let's just assume that they had any denomination that we wanted and that nobody blinked. Deny when we you know went to the table. So how would you so many. If so i know it's hard to answer but let's say they gave me thousand dollars ships right now. He had one hundred thousand. So i had one hundred thousand dollar chips. Okay and figure then we have to say the table. Let's be a thousand dollars in the bill which like hairs rincon to the magic. Number is three hundred. Yeah is the max. i guess. We're going to have to get one hundred dollars all right. Look stop trying to look at this realistically okay. It never would have happened. The question is how would you bet this is very simple. Don't think about all the mechanics involved to get to this hour mechanics. Well okay here. i hear well. I'll tell you what i would. They won't let they won't let your free play go in any prop bets. No you're thinking too much. I don't want to hear any of these explanations as to how you can and cannot use free play. Let's just say we can sign. I was there. Some guy had like five hundred dollars in free play ships and he was obviously new casino right probably from out of town it was probably some incentive to get in there and he was very disappointed to find he can only use them on the pass line or in the field or he could place numbers with them right and that was it to bet hard ways. He and he was very disappointed. So if we're gonna say you can use them anywhere. And i want to run through them as quick as i can right because you're assuming that somebody is going to catch on like they did it. Salmon well maybe forty five minutes an hour into it's happening. Yeah yeah well then. I'm putting the max on every role. I can in the field. Okay and i take an all the hardware for the max. Yeah and i'm probably betting a bed every role the maximum reward better every role. I guess i wouldn't waste my time with going to placing a number or something like that. What do you think of this. What if they let us do it. What if we made a pass and don't pass or come and don't come every roll the same out right so again we're just concerned about converting it into money you know you're guaranteed to get something again unless a twelve comes up but you're converting money wailing. Well if you and i were both sitting next to each other and we both had one hundred thousand one of us should pay pass. Wants to play the don't and we should get the money up at the end. How about we just hop every single combination for the max. Every there you go. That's another way to go. Yeah right hell partways come up right. Yeah right yeah yeah. That's not a bad way to go. I mean there's a lot of fun things you could do because it's some fantasy world but in reality this is never out all right. I i'll tell you what it's interesting. Because knowing our personalities i would have thought i'd be the one that get hung up on all the what's realistic and what's not realistic playing. All this replay. But you're the one who really was concerned about. Well will they let us but the hard ways with it or can we use it only trying to answer. The question is realistically i can. I know. well what will they let me do right. I mean it's not what i wanna do. It's what will they let me do with three because free plays an odd thing. I mean even in real life. I get my hundred and twenty five dollars a free play. Well the best way for me to use that. Let's talk about a. We're out there on a friday night. And they gave me two hundred twenty five dollars in free play. Yeah and if. I'm forced to play it on the craps table. The best thing for me to do is use it for fire bets. It's absolutely you're absolutely right up winning anything. I probably end up with zero oddly. Not necessarily the best chance of winning anything but when you look at the math in the long run. It's the best thing to do. Yes yeah right and we can t if some people might be hearing this thinking. That can't be right if you ever run into us. Ask us what we meant by that and explain it. Because i think it's a little too complicated to bring up on the show but yeah that's absolutely right involved but that's the correct thing to do with it. The last time i was there you weren't there. A couple came up to the table and once again they had quite a bit of free play. I never seen them before in their free play was in two thousand five dollars chips. Okay so they were obviously out-of-towners who got some junket or some deal to come to that casino and you know they were given what five hundred dollars free play or something right and so they got it in twenty five dollars chips and this was what i was talking about. They were disappointed to find out. They couldn't just play regular crafts right because they wouldn't let them make any hardware bats or you know. They could do a horn or anything like that. Nothing in the middle. They could only put it on the pass. Line the field and make place bets on numbers and then they were also disappointing to find out that when they did win a bet like she put twenty five dollars chip on a five and a five came up and then she got thirty five dollars but they kept her twenty five and she's like well. What about that. No that that we keep that now. It's just a one. C that's the whole other thing that we're bringing reality into this. Theoretical question would that be the case. At san manuel right. Are they chips that there until they lose or do they you know. Come down after every decision now if they stay out there until they lose. That's a whole different thing. Oh yeah then. I'd be placing every number for the max right Hoping that they hit a couple of times whatever all right well. I think our answers were relatively disappointing based on potential for what we said. What though it's it's a question because it's like asking me like oh if you win that one billion dollar lottery that just happened. What are you gonna do. I can sit there and tell you exactly how. I'm going to invest this money. And what i'm gonna do and everything but it's a moot point is my. She has a winning. That one billion you know in all reality there's zero and some guy gets lucky and women and what really happened at san manuel again. It was only machines so you really only had two decisions to make. Do you wanna play on a machine. Where you're betting the max every time or do you wanna play in such a way that you're less likely to get a hand pay so you can go through money quicker so i mean that would be kind of the choice that you would have to make but otherwise you know it's just keep hitting the button on the slot machine right and see how much can run through it. So yeah yeah. The hand pay is what kills them to send. Somebody has to come around. Everyone's got all that money and there's only so many people to make campaign right. That's the real situation elle's going on and then the casino catches on and just deletes. Everything are and wonder how long it took for some casino employees to freak out and say it all related. Somebody must have been just going crazy in the back when they were so. They're slowly starting to figure out what's happening right. And then they're probably thinking now. How do we do this. What if what if somebody as even played through there. Let's say we're going to get five hundred played through their five hundred yet. Yeah that's true. I know that's not you know. Luckily we weren't in charge black. A you know it's one of those things where something got screwed up and it wasn't my fault so i'm happy about that. I liked it fantasize about things like this my wife and i all the time. Say we want we want to. You know big laundry what we do we talk about it and laugh and know think of things we do. Give money to help. and this. And that and we both know that will never happen. Yeah it's fun fantasize about same thing with this crafts. This question is basically saying okay. What if i was given an unlimited amount of money. What would i do. Walk into a casino. Say oh congratulations your guest number blah blah blah. And here's a million dollars. You have to go play crowds. Okay hurried i guess. The limits like one hundred dollars. Everything's ready yet happening. Colorado right so right. You got two hours to all right. Let's move on. So we got a nice pay pal donation from listener michael james in advance of a yearly super bowl trip to las vegas that he is going to go on this year. There was some doubt but let me read you what he sent us. This trip is a hard one to justify. I've been out of work for months but my bankroll is largely intact because my wife has a job and also because i haven't done a lot of gambling due to the virus issues. We've spent ten months trying to stay safe. But i can't take it anymore. We normally take vegas poker trip each fall which was canceled for twenty twenty at one point a splinter group formed and we worked on a fantasy plan to watch the super bowl in vegas over the course of a few weeks. All the discussion seem to move from fantasy to. Hey we can do this. We all have credits on south west from cancelled twenty twenty trips hotels begging us to stay. So we've got our choice of comps. All over the valley it took some discussions with the wife. More about safety and less about being unemployed. But golly gee i was given the go-ahead for the past ten years or so i've gotten to vegas and or reno an average of three times per year but this trip will be my first. Since last year's super bowl i am apprehensively giddy. And i wanted to make sure that this donation got through to you. Thanks for the year of content. That got me through to this. So thanks very much for the donation michael and lesser. Yes absolutely our pleasure to do this. We do have a lot of fun. I understand being apprehensive. Still right. i mean gosh especially for people who have to fly to vegas. You know we can drive but even still when two trips we recently took was like Not so sure. Yeah i get so many offers just this morning. I look at my email. And there's an offer for a two and a half thousand dollar macy's gift card. Oh gosh well. Thanks for like the third week in february or something you know. And i'm thinking okay. Well i can go to vegas. I could drive there two and a half thousand dollars. Macy car play a little bit and come home and then my wife will you know go buy stuff for the girls and things and i'm thinking. Oh i just don't want to do it. It's just not when i was there for the great gift. Wrap up. it was not as fun as normal. Oh well even. When i went was sherry we had a good time but does completely different. You know it really. It's not the same and we're going to get to this next question coming up to. We can talk a little bit about it wearing a mask. Yeah for one thing. yeah then. The tables not crowded. So it's never a big ruckus event at the craps table. I mean you know the most you're going to have is six people and even then i didn't find that i was ever even on a full table there and you know food issues and this issue in that issue and you know you go to your room even go in your room and you're thinking oh god. I hope this was white down. Good everything down. You know you're well. It's not the same. But i imagine michael is going to be having a good time. Because he'll be there with his friends and it's the super bowl they're going to watch the super bowl so you know depending on where they they watch it. I don't know where the actually watching it. If they're going to one of the parties or something you know that will still be fun. They'll be six feet apart. Everyone will have a megaphone thing to see that point what. I don't know what that's going to be like. Because usually know weep intervention. In vegas there are big crowds. Churn and your wall to wall next to somebody shoulder to shoulder you know and your high five and some guy you don't even know because you know they just got first down or something so it's going to be different with kofin. I think well. I still have fun. Because i mean hasn't been in a year. Yeah oh yeah. Oh yeah and we had fun when we went to vegas. It's just not the same. And i don't know i know this off gambling topic but to be honest. I think we're still in for quite a long haul. Well i'll tell you what let's that's a good segue. Let's move onto this next question. We talk about this a little bit more. We got an email for mike he said. Do you get any sense from your trips to the casinos. As to win things might return to looking normal. And by that. I mean mainly no more six person limits at the craps table no plexiglass restaurants. Open no masks required to walk through and get into the casino in the first place. I may just be one guy on this. But somehow i bet i speak for a lot of others in that. I'd hate to book a vegas trip and spend that kind of money if it has to be under less than normal circumstances which obviously would limit the fun so that kind of got back to what we're talking about. Yeah if you go to vegas right now. It's not going to be the same when we think it's going to get back to normal. You're thinking we're still in for a long haul. I i agree. I think we are i. I hate to say this. But well just i think it was yesterday. President biden announced that they've got like two hundred million more doses or something which is good for one hundred million people but it won't be here till summer. Well we're not at the beginning of february yet. What is he considered. Summer june july. You know that that's a long ways away still and then you still got get the people vaccinated and stuff. Did you notice when you were out last weekend. With your son at harrah's rincon that about every four five minutes. There's an announcement over the loud p. a. that says that you must wear masks at all time e. exceptions if you're actively eating or drinking. I have heard that notice i. I've heard it so many times. I probably don't even really it anymore. But it was about like every five minutes. It's a recorded thing when they go ahead and make something like that. Put it out. You get the sense that okay. We're stuck with this for a while. This isn't like you know. They went to that effort. They're not thinking next month. It'll be back to normal i. I think it's going to be a while. And it's unfortunate because it isn't quite as much fun and you know it's a little harder. Yeah so mike to answer your question. We think it's going to be a while before it will be back to normal so either you know wait and what we mean by that a year maybe or if you really itching to go i mean just keep mind. It's not going to be the same. So yeah i think we said this before and this is my feeling it depends on what you're going to vegas four right so you and i we go to vegas to gamble. And that's why our biggest trips over the last twenty years have become less less because we can do that. Same gambling right here at home. Yes so we don't have to fly somewhere drive somewhere anything we can just go to the casino and gamble and that that satisfies rich. But if you're going to vegas other things let's say you're going because you know you like shows. Are you like the restaurants or it could be something as simple as you disliked to get out of town to feel better about your normal routine you know. Sometimes it's nice. Just go somewhere. It's not going to be the same experience. No it won't no. Yeah and until things go back to normal which may be well. It's not going to be as much fun now for us. It could be the same experience we just go. Sit on craps stable. It's not it's not as loud or whatever you kind of alluded to it before right. It's not as crowded. There's not as big hoopla at the table because they're only six maximum. There's less excitement. I mean we still enjoy the game. There's no question but there is less overall excitement right. It's just not as much fun and for us. There's no other draw to get us to vegas. There's no even the super bowl's not a draw like we've known that before. Because i like to watch the game so i like to be in front of my tv. I don't even to my cousin's house because he has a bunch of people over there and they all talk. You're listening to the game right. I'm trying to the one thing that we do like about going to vegas or atlantic city. You know this kind of thing is that we can move from casino to casino. You know when we're here if we wanted to go from one casino to another have to get into a car and drive and you know it would be at least a ten minute drive. Depending on what casino we were at so. That's one thing we do like about going to vegas gamble here. We want to move on heck. If we're downtown you know. We walked across the street and word another table right. That's the greatest thing about the big draw for us. Yeah yeah i mean. That's that's one reason to go to vegas versus laughlin for us right. This casinos are closer. Sure well i mean if you're talking about downtown for sure i mean strip casinos. We've talked about that before too. Sometimes when you just to walk next door to casino on the strip. It's a good fifteen twenty minute. Walk right so well. Especially if it's across the street that walked from caesar's palace to harris right across the street from china. But i have salihi eight that walk. It just seems like it takes forever. But you're right. Laughlin is a bit of a walk between the casinos. It's nothing could beat downtown. Las vegas how about that yet. no you know what. They should've done what they on the strip. They should have put casinos on one side of the street. Casinos on the other side of the street but the street is really not a street. It's just a walkway for people to walk. And it's about like maybe ten yards. Hey they in the other. Traffic is behind the casinos. Yes right all. The traffic is high. They there has been talk about closing down. Las vegas boulevard and just making it a pedestrian street. I don't think that's going to happen. Because they've invested all this money and in the overpasses on the escalators and everything and they're still out of interest. Yeah right you know driving down the strip. But then they've talked about it. Yeah yeah well. It couldn't have been -ticipant a look at pictures of the strip from forty years ago. They had no idea v. Like it is now right. Speaking of There was a contestant on jeopardy a few weeks ago there was the heart where they interview the contestants that little quick interview and the one one contestant said that his favorite thing was craps. Oh nice yeah and it was funny because he said unfortunately. I'm good at making people a lot of money but not much for myself And he told this story about where he rolled all these hard ways and people were making tons of money. He didn't have any hard ways that at the end of the role or the role progressed. I should say they gave him some hard ways. They made some bets fauria which one and then the dealer was paying in money. Said i don't have a hard way. And he said oh these guys bet for you know nice. Yeah and he was all excited about that. So then ken jennings who is now hosting temporary right deputy. He said something like so. You're playing a game where you know. You're not making a bunch of money. You're just doing it for fun. And the guy said exactly he said. I don't really play to make money. I just try and make my money last and how far you look at that. Yeah i thought that was pretty interesting. Anyway he just r- you know. Yeah you really loved it. I was kind of interested to that kid. Jennings picked up on the fact that he wasn't like throwing all his money out there he was just biding his time. Right so ken jennings thing okay. You're not deluded into thinking that you're actually going to make money member run. You're just you're just trying to have fun and number two. It doesn't sound like you're a degenerate gambler. You're just having some fun so right. It was pretty interesting. We replayed it by white even put it on that recorder so we can go back. Hey thanks to. Everyone has been clicking through our amazon link. Remember whenever you're going to buy something through amazon. please go to our page. I you can bet on that. Dot com and click through our amazon links towards the top of the page. All right. let's move on to some voicemails. First up is michael pay. What's up marking ducker. Mike. it's michael from atlanta trip. Report that kind of reference call from the last episode. He was asking about taking money down and once he had built up on the table and the situation. I have last week so me and my buddy go to winstar dallas and oklahoma. You know the whole point. He's talking about the new electronic craps table because placement also known for really bad healers. We never have a good time with the craps table. He's like the semi-chaotic table. I scrolled away or you can place your bed on the kiosk. But they're still real nice our well. We're going to play golf. You have to have your players cards discounted around. So i was like i'll hop into the casino grab players car before i go out and teach our key time and i was on our ahead of him. I was like well. I'm gonna go check out the table. I'll throw twenty dollars. Which is a joke table. Just check it out. Well they they have a running tally of how many roles this year on he was on my role. Twelve under twenty and place. My six and eight really wasn't make anything. He kept hitting numbers like man. I gotta get more money and had a stroke. Another twenty in real quick and eight a twenty five dollar by four and sure enough the next three or four roles or four so my bet every time added up to two hundred dollars at this point also had my six and eight built up to sixty dollars each starting. I think six on made the by you will roll thirty two by four two. I look down at like five hundred on the table with a little bit. And i was like well. I have time to make normally would never walk away from the table but at this point i think it's one of those opportunities so i did take my money and ram which definitely hurt my heart a little bit. But i feel like at that moment. Is the right decision after we play golf. We came back later that night. And i actually asked the dealer. Hey you know about that long. Roll this morning. How long it went. You said it went to upper fifties. And i had left at rule forty four. I believe so. Yeah there was about probably ten to twelve roles that i miss out on you know. Never go up. There was actually gonna hit my four game which was at two hundred dollars at that point. But you know that's how it goes. Wraps probably got away with it there. You guys have a good day. Could we talk you like. Yeah good reasons to walk away from the table. You know the you gotta tee time. You've got a plane to catch. Got reservations there are times when maybe you have to do it. And maybe it's a good idea. Sounded like you know. Maybe if he'd stayed he would've gotten ten or twelve more roles. But who knows you know in anything can happen. You know the fact that he left may have resulted in there. Being more roles. Maybe if he'd stayed the timing would have all been different. There would have been seven out right away. So what is the comeback ask dealer and said oh my god that guy rolled for two and a half hours and i dunno must have been around three hundred rolls. Clooney bike the move and michael at five. Tomorrow's another day. that's what he would have. You know what i i do like about this story though. How many times have we been on a table. Where let's say you've got some bets out there on certain numbers and your numbers are not coming up but everybody else's numbers are. Let's say you just have the six and eight and a point and guy just keeps rolling fives and nine and you're getting paid right. You're shy bet on a five or nine now. Oh maybe i shouldn't really doesn't matter right. It's not like a five or nine or any less or more likely to come up right. It's all still random but you put more out there. Shy put more out there. And here's a case. Where michael said i to get more out there. Bet on the four and it worked for him. You know it wasn't the immediate seven out that we're all horrified when oh my gosh. Why did i make that bad right. I caused it to happen by putting more money on. I should've just stayed with the bed. Sleigh i love this story because he put more money out there and he had a big win. Now you know that never happens to me right. Oh i know it never happens to you. Oh yeah come back. i go to the bathroom. I come back. The guys made a point. Four five numbers. I cover all the numbers and it's the media seven now that's always the case mark you. No i'm just thinking about the last time we were out there. Mike and you're having such bad like and you're trying to mix up your style and so you decided to make some so you made a pass line bet. The point was like ten. You place the six and eight you made to combats. One went up to a five one went up to nine and seven out. It was the worst possible. P- come you didn't get any money your place bets. I put more money out there. I would have if i had placed them right. Place them for fifty each. It's like fifty dollars combats. Two hundred odds. I'm glad we can laugh about it now. Although it seems like. I'm the only one laughing so don't mind your misfortune down somewhere in there. I'm laughing. It's buried under layers of light fire indigestion under layers of indigestion all right let's hear from scott. He's got some information about gambling in florida. Hi guys this is scott from west palm beach. Florida loves the podcast. I wanted to give a little trip. Report on south florida gambling in particular. The hard rock in hollywood which i've been to a couple of times in the last few weeks. The seminal indian tribe pretty much has a monopoly on gambling in florida except for some poker rooms at the dog tracks or high lioness in fact dog racing was just made illegal in florida starting january first but the poker rooms and off track betting still remained those venues. The hard rock in hollywood is just north of miami. And they've completed a huge rebuild back in two thousand nineteen and now as lavish. Las vegas style hotel casino. They also build a guitar shaped hotel which is very unique. They now have only two entry points and have a very unobtrusive temperature. Check as you walk in the table. Games allow four two table poker seven per table with glass. Partitions and every other slot machine is turned off. The casino was very crowded. This was the weekend of the national championship game in miami. And i saw a lot of ohio state and alabama gear but i also went the next weekend and it was equally as crowded. They offer a lot of promotions to get people in the casino. This one was free luggage. I've been there where they give out. Vacuums blenders or store gift cards things like that gets you in the casino and try to take your money. The one downside with the hard rock is they don't have craps or let which is a big disappointment. The only place you can get craps or relax and florida is on the casino ships which go out a few miles off shore into international waters and take four or five hour trips. They allow all the games including craps and let but those are closed due to the pandemic. And it's hard to say whether they'll come back at all at the hard rock. They do have a bubble craps machine with twelve seats as well as ac roulette machine. I know you guys love good gambling story. So i have one with a great ending. I sat down at the baccarat table in the high limit section after having lost in another table not realizing the table was reserved when the dealer informed me that the table was reserved. I started to get up and the guy playing table. Let him stay. He looks like a nice guy. Just don't bet against me. They're also comping him. Twenty five year mccowan scotch and he ordered me one anyway. We had he had about twenty five thousand dollars in chips out of a fifty thousand dollar buy and and was betting anywhere from twenty five hundred to five thousand bet. We went on a huge heater. And he finished fifty five thousand up i stupidly kept my bachelorette around one hundred dollars or a little more per hand but sell went from thousand down to two thousand up so i can't be too disappointed with that and he kept them mcaleese coming throughout the session. He had over one hundred thousand chips by the time he finished including his initial buy in and requested security. Escort him to the cashier and out to the parking garage which they did so all in all it was a fun trip down to the hard rock. Hollywood it's like a las vegas casino. Just missing the sportsbook. The craps in the relent. Thanks thank scott for all the information and Yeah congratulations on the nice. Little bacher hit you know. He brought up a good staying there. I was thinking he's talking about the giveaways. So i wonder what is the worst giveaway anyone's ever caught we've talked about. It wasn't like that six pack of pepsi. We got your. That's not that bad. That's something you can use a six. I think we've had worse giveaways all right then how about that taco holder remember. It was it was like ceramic to hold like two tacos has served to eat from. Yeah that's crappy gift and we've had a few fell apart. Like oh yeah. Some of the things are such bad quality that we get. Yeah i mean they were just like what apart. I usually once that we've had some crappy ones now. We've had some really good ones i think. Oh god we know. If i mentioned this before but i think the best one we ever got wasn't electric teapot My wife still uses that. And i think we got that over five six years ago. Nice and at teapot. I mean it is awesome. It's one of those electric ones. You push the button heats up the water. Oh my god. It's so much better than a cadillac stove. I think the best we got was a big iron skillet. I don't know if you've got this. But i mean it's a solid big big heavy iron skillet and last great for cooking. Yes will last forever. Yeah those are good if you take care of them if you do the maintenance on those skills to last forever yeah. Those are the kind of gifts highlight. I like the ones where we use and just go on and on and on all right well one more call but first a little background information. So we've been talking a even on this episode about bubble craps so those are basically the craps machines that you see in casinos. Typically there are a bunch of monitors around some dice in a big bubble and people make their bets directly on the monitors and then the dice roll themselves or maybe somebody pushes a button to make the dice go. But that's what we refer to his bubble craps and there. There are several manufacturers that make these bubble craps machines but the most popular version is called shoot to win from a company called a ruse gaming so a lot of times. We'll talk about shoot to win bubble crap. Sometimes it will use those interchangeably but it's basically the same kind of thing you know. It's on the floor. It's all automated and you make your bets on screens so a little while ago. Maybe couple two three years ago a ruse gaining came up with this new thing called role to win. And it's a full length. Craps table again. Where you're all sitting around making your bets on monitors but people get to still roll dice and there's a dealer there who enters the dice rolls into the computer and it shows up in. So it's kind of a hybrid. You know where you're still able to make bets on a monitor like the bubble craps but you also get to roll dice. And there's a dealer who types it in well. A ruse gaining has just recently come out with a new version of the role to win. Crafts table called role to win virtual. Craps where there's no dealer at all and the rolling of the dice is all virtual the dice go rolling down the table. Just animated like these animated dice and it ends up with a role so there's no dealer there who has to look at the role and enter it into the computer. The casino doesn't have to pay for a dealer. So you know the casinos. Kinda liked this idea. So instead of shoot twin crafts where these two dice just popped up. The machine shoots them up and wherever they land is the role this is just to virtual dice rolling down the table right on some kind of display right. So it's computerized computerized random. As opposed to these bubble crafts machine. Where usually they're these oversized real dice. Bubble that move no. This is all virtual all electronic so the machine can actually control when there's going to be big roles and set it can be set a certain way. Well no i mean you know people might think that's the case but no. I'm sure it's all on the up and up on sure the casino can't change anything. I'm sure that you know it's all as pseudo random as it can be that a computer can be no. I don't think they'd be set that way but again you're gonna get plenty of people who would disagree right say. Oh it's all cell determined and people would not like playing this game for the reason that they think. Oh maybe you know something. Unsavory is going on but role. That would be my thought if i was there playing. And you know it was just like battles after battles just an occasionally a moderate role rain. I'd be thinking well. This machine set not to have. Yeah and that's what people are going to start thinking so again. Shoot to win. Bubble craps those machines on the floor role to win. Those are the relatively new tables. Where their monitors around but you get to roll real dice and there's a dealer there and then this new machine role to win virtual craps where it's just a virtual roll of the dice. Okay the reason. I wanted to go through all this. We're going to listen to sonny's call coming up here. And he repeatedly says shoot to win when he's really talking about role to win tables. So i just wanna make that clear when he's saying shoot to win but he's really talking about the role to win tables so let's take a listen. Hey guys wanna give you an update from tampa florida hard rock. Chino now has shoot the wing crafts. I go up there and play the crafts which is and really in the reservation by excited to shoot to win crass from fortunately it's a beautiful looking table but you can't shoot the dice. There's no deal. it's automated deitz even worse than the public crafts. Bubble i town. She's doing crafts in biloxi. Break playing real table. Let's glass chewed on parts. And it's all digital one tampa hard rock is digital dice the biden and dice all they did lay down the ill and it's almost like playing slot machines it's ridiculous. I don't know why people are playing because it's what a beautiful table for one ways and not play this game whatsoever. So they'll they actually us get ruling all going on the five art crafts Down to earth like last minute at Acdc twice back to back. So i got a couple of dollars. Quick and ron. I'll be back again but disappointed with the schuster way without no gail. Anyway that's still live reports Why coded ten flos okay. So again sunny just misspoke there when he said shoot when he was talking about the role to win. Craps tables and yeah basically brought up. What you did is that. He doesn't wanna play on that. It's like it's ridiculous you know. I don't think i'd have a problem with it. Because i would be fairly confident that they're on the up and up but i could certainly understand people not thinking they're on the up and up or just not enjoying that kind of play right. I assume it's a faster game than like chew to win. Because that probably happens real quick role than you know. Desert mountain time. Make your best because that to win you know they bounce awhile and the person who presses the button for the final balance. Yeah maybe the machine do it. I don't know yeah. who knows. it's i would think it'd be about the same to be honest as issued to win. I think in the long run faster well. Here's one reason why it would definitely be faster every once in a while. No shoot to win machines. One of the dice is kind of leaning. it doesn't land fly and then it's got a again. It says right no good role you know shooting again and that certainly wouldn't have virtual machine so and there's no dealer to input anything so there's probably not many mistake would definitely be faster than a regular role to win table because there's no mistakes right so that would help. This just occurred to me recently. I'm standing next to the shoot to win machine at harris the voice. It's a female. Very high voice. Yes and if you don't push it then she doesn't it. Yeah after of time right. There's certain amount of time she does her do it. And i'm sitting there thinking. They should have research. Come on push the button. Push the button and inches after a while. Just go scroll yes. Let's write a ruse gaming. Yeah and see daddy and some don't have to say screw you but some snarky comment and i think that would have more fun to the game. I doing it by itself right. What's wrong with this is crap it's supposed to be. I think snarky remarks. I know but anyway one of the reasons that they've got this new role to win. Virtual crafts machine in florida is kind of like sunny and scott were saying they don't have real craps and roulette so it has to be these machines and they probably wouldn't be able to use the regular role to win craps tables with a dealer for the same reason because they'd be rolling die so that probably would be against the law anyway. So that's that's what florida at least if that's the only game in town if i lived in tampa that's the only game in town. I'd be playing it to. Maybe i'd probably go to the shoot to win to be honest if i had a choice between the role to win. Virtual and the shoe twain is probably. Stay in the twin. Yeah i kind of enjoyed that all the noise and the shoot to win. Yeah that's true too. Yeah there is a lot more noise. Yeah there's a lot more going on keep your attention not just sitting there waiting for these virtual dice. Although again sunny did say they are beautiful tables and they are. You know all the animation and everything and you know. Yeah all right. Well that's going to do it for this episode in addition to the papal donation. We got from michael james. We want to thank some people for some recurring donations. brian dancer. Brian and sarah and josh thank you very. Hey be sure to check out our tv listings showing all the gambling related shows coming up within the next two weeks at you can bet on that dot com slash tv dash listings and our list of gambling related movies. And you can bet on that dot com slash movies. We'd love to hear from you. Caller voicemail hotline at nine five one two nine two four three seven seven. That's nine five one two wagers. I'm five one or you can email us that you can bet. On that edgy. Mail dot com. You can also follow us on twitter at you can bet on that and on facebook at facebook dot com slash. You bet on that finally. Please go to your favorite podcast app and write a review of the show. We love getting your feedback. Dr mike these super bowl falls on your birthday this year. Yes yes it is my birthday every so often. The super bowl falls on my birthday. And that's always a nice treat all right now. Your predictions on the playoffs didn't quite go that while you were correct in that the browns kept it close but the rams really were not in that game so no. I don't know what happened to the rams that was. That was quite a big disappointment. Although if i remember betting wise i was five hundred net weekend right you were five hundred. Yes so all. We lost the juice the jews. Yeah i kind of knew that That kansas city was going to be buffalo this last weekend. I you know my heart was with buffalo and unfortunately they just kinda fell apart there but they got off to a great start again. that's true. I thought okay. This is known well. And i kinda wanted to see the packers. Make it to the super bowl. But i bet on tampa bay because you know who bets against really no kidding i mean seriously now the super bowl do you think. Well i don't know. But i will say this if tom brady wins. This super bowl you know leaves. The patriots goes to a new team. And i understand younger team but if he were to win the super bowl i mean a lot of people think he's the greatest of all time anyway but if he wins this one that's cemented. Yes i agree. I mean i i think he's. He's been at nine super bowl and this. This is his ten super bowl. What's he wants six. It's hard to say you know people say oh. Tom brady wouldn't be that good checks genius. Brian ryan that's kind of my point check. And he's going there and he still has. I think this is a really tough game for me to handicap okay. Because kansas city's favored by three and the homes is great without mahomes. Kansas city's a mediocre team. Yeah i say that right yeah And it's all mahomes and for such a young guy. He's able to pull them together and he may be the greatest of all time at the end of his all right for right now. It's tom brady and by god. I cannot go against tom brady. I'd have to take tampa bay three points okay. Well you're just rooting for overtime right. As usual as usual. My favorite thing is just over time. I'd love to see you know what i'd love to see. What's dr mike double overtime. That would be so good. Oh my god can you imagine they play a whole nother quarter. Nobody scores and it goes into double overtime. Teams are prolific scoring team. So the chances of that happening or neil but but boy. I would love to see that that would be. You know you'd be on the edge of your seat just freaking out at every play. I just hope and I know i might draw. Drew criticism for this. I just hope the referees let him play and there's not some stupid call at something. Well you always kind of hope for that. I hope the players don't put the refs in a position where they have to make a call like that. How about that. yeah. Yeah i you know. It's one of those things where i know in the last two minutes. Some guy grabs the jersey which dan hold the sudden they call it. It is a penalty. I mean it wasn't like it wasn't a penalty but you didn't call it earlier on now. You've got to be consistent the whole game. So that's what i'm hoping for anyway. It'll be fun something for me to do. I feel very good. Yeah around and we're not gonna do anything we'll be sitting here watching the super bowl all right. Well enjoy the game. Everybody thanks for listening. Thanks sweet love. You doctor blake.

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152. Life Is Not a Cabaret (w/ Blair Beeken)

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152. Life Is Not a Cabaret (w/ Blair Beeken)

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Angie this, Cynthia, how you feel. Feeling. Necklace, reckless flare. You can't take me anywhere. Crowds people's top hopper on the air. Hi fall heart. Yes, I go. It's nothing new what they say. Maybe I keep walking in. This. How feelin Joe? Hi, guys. I've never. You know what I'm feeling from this week's New York episode can I didn't have words for it like how I was feeling how it was what it was doing to me how it was affecting my emotions than I realized there's over one. That is I'm feeling Giovanni. I didn't know it was an adjective, but. Heels hills good guys, welcome to bitch sash. It's Daniel Schneider. Sadly, Casey Wilson is not here today. Just last minute. Her brother and his wife are having a baby. And so she had to run off this morning, San Francisco. But for good news. That's all good. But the great news is, we have an amazing host guest, who I'm excited about. She is hilarious actress woman, writer, improviser workout, buddy of case. She's been on the podcast before, and you guys loved her. Please welcome Blair, beacon, the hi Daniel. Hi. Are you feeling feels good? Yeah. Does now without the first ten you had hurt. It it was. So the wrapping did catch me off guard. You know, you know it's coming because you can't sing a tune. So it's but, but it's still. It's shocking every time range is quite small. Yeah. I can't sing say it similar to that. I mean, it was everything I wanted to be I loved the, the little sketch at the top of the show, with Andy got him savior, and Cynthia Bailey. And also, Lisa Renna, yet, I was gonna ask didn't know who sent the yes, say they don't you know, you can't when you see the video, I mean, there's lots of great lyrics. There's a lyrics. And says cab camera as my cabernet. Which just like the uniform. I mean that's poaching. That's beat poetry. Yeah. That was really nice. It was just. I mean we didn't know she was dropping at this week. It was such a surprise and then it drops. Yeah. I don't how does she say that? She like what is feeling Giovanni. I don't understand what it is. It's a feeling. It's like you know, in, in Hebrew, there Shalom. And it means many different things. And in Hawaii, Aloha in so many words. You know so, like there's so many meanings of I think that's what Giovanni is. Yeah. Because I think about like during yelling in that field. There's Joe Bonnie Joe. There's feeling Giovanni. It's, it's, it's in your body. You can't explain it. But, you know when you feel it. Yeah. And cheesy, I hope to feel it. Sometimes I felt a when I was when you're listening to guys, we have a great show for you today what a week to be alive autoweek. I mean, we're gonna get into New York in a minute, but it took my breath away. In fact, I'm sorry, we're a little late. With the podcast I had many people. On social media being like this week. Where are you? I know I know sorry, we're getting to work and kids. And so we knew we had to get it to the people. And so I'm sorry. But I also needs a day or two to process it. I mean, that was TV unlike ever been made before I mean, I remember being like the finale of sopranos, and like some of the greats, and this is so much more. This is this is the new game game of thrones was disappointing compared to Whitney orcas in the valley, that it's not over. I mean every week I don't think it can top itself in minute down, right? Like, I mean, the fact that Bethany is still going to be going. I come Wednesday. Real quick. I don't want to forget before we get into New York. I just wanted to plug a few shows that Casey Nyerere doing very soon coming up. Some special shows my regular shows we are not going on tour this summer because we just got a little too busy with their schedule. But we do have to show's coming up. We have another bitch session. Watch says at the theater coming up on Hsun twenty-second Wednesday June twenty second at seven thirty pm. The watch sessions when we watch an episode with you guys in last time, it was the most fun. We've ever had. It was like watching the rocky horror picture. It was of the last like houses like yelling, and laughing and screaming at the same time and it was it was charge. You know it was it was the most communal experience I've ever had. And I loved it so much. So we have to do it again. It's last minute. But we, we just needed to do it another time. So that's going to be again theater June twenty six Wednesday at seven thirty with special guests, Matt McCarthy, he's going to be joining us, and we're gonna have a lot. A fun. And so come on out to that. And then another very special show is coming on August. I August, I Casey, and I are going to do a bitch session live at the Jane club in. Yes. In Los Angeles. With our special guest, miss June Diane Raphael, that's right this coming back, and she's going to do this live show and special show because it's for charity. It's going all the proceeds are going to go to the Jane legacy fund, which provides membership to, to the Jane club for deserving game changers in the community free memberships and all the money from the show. We'll go to, to people that deserve to desert that are doing great things in their community and the thing, that's special about the show is very intimate show. So there's not a ton of tickets, but it is an intimate show, and we're gonna do a cocktail party KC, June I- beforehand, so that we all just kind of get to, like, have some drinks, and mingle with some. Some of some listeners, and it will be really fun and talk and tell her favourite Giovanni feelings together. So that's the Jane club and I'm to post it on social media with a link and everything. And that'll be August, I with Casey June, and I and all proceeds go to charity. So that's going to be really a nice intimate fun bitch live event. All right. So now can I just real quick Blair before we get into New York, I am curious how you how you got into the house, and did you discuss can't remember the last time you were on the show, but, but is and his New Yorker favorite city? How do you feel New York is one hundred percent? My favorite city. Why is it? I mean I know. Right. So stellar. But is there a reason has it always been or I mean going, I started watching from the very beginning from the jump. Yeah. Until like out of the gates, Vicky gun gun vol sin, girl. Yeah. You are a Gumbo girl. Still, like, oh, see used to be my favorite and then like five years ago, I toured for second city and I lived on a cruise ship. Oh, yeah. You and you have some thoughts on below deck. I know. Oh. And so, but I didn't watch TV for like a year. So I lost track some of the girls. And yeah. And then when I of came back, and I got settled, I got back into it, and that's when New York was really picking up steam, and I mean, New York, I think I've kind of always held onto, but most see after that was well after Brooks left, it's been a and Shannon's breakdown. They'll shoot Sheehan lane is a gift and she's, you know, she's a gift and a curse, and we've all benefited and lost from our relationship with her, and she's been fun, devastating. Learn so like New York consistently brings it. I mean you know, I said this last week, but, like I worry that there, wouldn't be anything this season just never stopped wild. I mean, I think there's part of the that I see in some of my friends. The alcohol. Like, when I watch those girls go on a trip, I think that is what my friends will be doing at that age too, because it's like that's what we revert back to, like we just went on a girl's trip to Oregon, and like all my college friends, and it was similar. I mean, we didn't make anyone go to AA exporting but, but maybe you shouldn't, but like, we say that behind each other's back, but not to their face if you on reality TV, maybe would say, yeah. Exactly. Lessons learned this week. I mean I guess we'll just jump right in because from the Git it was wild. Absolutely. For me. I like seeing kind of Bethany right out of the gate, hung over like that. Is she does some of her best work hung over four she's, she's very funny in the morning when she has her defenses down in her as well as I Leonard? She's either got her shades, usually she's got her shades. Yes. Which I appreciate that look like picking through the food or laying in bed Jacqueline Yuna bomber this week. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I like that. You sort of I felt like this week with Bethany like I felt like I knew what she looked like without her skin on. Like I like if I took off her skin, I'd be like. Yeah. That makes sense. Listen, I know what that looks like. Yeah. Just 'cause she was just so like I've drank too much. You think I hangover would deter these, these ladies put it never seems to bring him down? I know that's kind of what I like about him, too, 'cause I like, like part of the reason I, I like to drink. Yes, please is because like I, I know that I like it when other people are drinking because I find it entertaining. So like what I'm like partying? I'm doing it as a favorite of my friends. It's a give. Yeah. So, like I like when other people are doing that for me because I find so you don't drink for yourself. You drink for them. Yeah. It's for another. That does that. Because when okay can we talk about? When Sonya went to the meeting. Just so wild. And I quote, she's like she I do believe that Sonia has a huge heart, and she truly does love people and wants to help and her reaction to the meeting was, she was like I can't help these people, I can't take them home to the town house. That's exactly what I wrote down to like such a wild take on what she needed needs to do a is help. No, no. You're here to help yourself when she was even talking later the other guys living in the street now. Like all concerned about these people and it's like you're not there to help them. So near you like as if she was standing apart in this one for charity balls as this, she was, you know, bridie or someone that she was throwing a party for to help their cause. And no, you're the cause rate Sonia, you need the help, and as if her townhouse, which is no longer her, right? Could help any one solve the problem that they but they always say like the sickest ones wanna help the like can't wait with, like, when, like I feel like a lot of, I think, people my life who are probably need the most help, and they're the ones that think they should be helping others. It's like you take it off of yourself like the more you pay attention to somebody else's problems. You're like, yeah. Then you don't have too much rather solve anybody else's probably because they're not mind. They're easy or not happening in my body. Yeah, my house, and I don't want Sonia to get help like that. I mean to say, well, it's not. I mean when I do think that Sonia, no matter what has an entertaining personnel. She said, I think one of the hardest things for her at that aiding to is just not being the center of attention seem to really like stop her dead in her tracks to not have everybody being like, oh, it's good time. So near here like. And for like Lou and her mind to get the spotlight, I think was devastating for, for sure. And Lou like put on a show. She did some numbers I think she screamed Vanni like, I think she was practicing material for the cabaret doing her best, five minutes, set, like she was on a roll at that meeting. Then also, which really crack me up with new said, sometimes I don't even take the subway because I feel so bad for the people like one of those people, I know, I mean, this is going to sound bad. The fact that I'd just compared my friends to the New York women, and then they're not really like that. But also I relate to that in some way, like it's why I don't get into the airport early because you don't want to see people even though you are one tragedy. I sometimes I just can't take in to seeing someone eating like Miami sub in Lega, everything me out like when I lived on the cruise ship watching people on vacation was, like devastating for me. He knows sometimes when I was waitressing. It really bummed me out to sea. People eating I don't know. It was like to St. their conversation and their dates like I don't know why. Because I speak with needed to be them, and that's like they're higher on the chain than me right now. Like I'm serving them waiting on them. I'm begging them for money, and for some reason, like having to watch people eat their food, like it made me sick to my stomach sorry for them. And it's like no, they are from me. It was so performing for them on a cruise ship and I felt bad for. It's, it's like no, no, no, no, no. With his new, it's you and I get that, that is a feeling I used to I totally relate to that. You have to otherwise you'll only kill yourself and that's not great now. Let's not Ramona going after Tinsley sky like when Tinsley was about to go on the date with that guy and Ramona lost her shit, like Ramona is scary with men like. I wouldn't want to cross her when she has like that bulls eye on, on a man. Right. I mean she's possessive with everything every man. Yeah, man. I mean absolutely. I mean, we'll put so was Sonja when she was talking about. They're both strangely very jealous of Tinsley. Yeah. And it's a small pool. Like I mean, they're both in their seventies. So like looking for a single. It's like at this point you have this fucking, the same people. They are Harry Yuban has been every on the shell. Harry is due in his just Harry's. Dubin. Harry's Dubin has been an all them lady. And I mean, we'll Ramona's I mean most of them are scary to me in general, any of them being the bull's eye of any of their like you don't want to get in, like the laser focus Ramona house, when she gets end like any night, she's not on a date is a loss might to her could be on a date as loses. Girls trip like the dick hunger strike. It's, it's I feel like I mean, I'll never forgive myself for saying this, but I think there's something sweet between her and Mario's still do. Don't forgive yourself because I believe that there is a sexual fire. I mean, I believe Ramona is a is a dragon slayer in the God. I can't even imagine. Because she's a boss in the board. Oh, she is. And you know, she is. I mean and Mario ally. Oh. And he's realizing now there's no one else out there like that he needs that. He has crazy for sure. And I mean I get it. They were together for so long. They probably had to go see what else was out there, because I mean, let's be real. It's the most marriages, don't last. I mean I. Yeah, you're, you're. Totally everybody else would good luck now. Let's talk about barb. Okay. We'll barb look like she got hit in the face with the tack of potatoes. There was one scene where they just showed her face. I feel like every time they show it looks like she just put her head up and got smacked face. Putting on the self Towner. When she said, I wanna be a little Latina or something. I don't know what it was offensive. And, and it was just and then Bethany saying to barb barb you're alone. You're like she was literally euro, your alone. I mean even that, like, even when Bethany is there for someone at still feels so nasty. And she can't do it. She even at her best, she's her worst. Yeah. I mean she was trying to come for poor barb, when she was like, I mean put on a bathing, suit, habit, commerce and join the conversation. Odd. Mean VAR books Grayton workout clothes? Oh, she looks town. She's got how does she have one of those faces where it's like she looks like she's like bigger something? But then our bodies, actually banging I don't you know, I can't quite get my head around barb yet, and I know we've watched her for a few weeks. So. And so the editors to her so dirty, they put her in the periphery so much. I don't quite know. I can't get my head around like bar. It's like they played into that thing like they allow her to be the second fiddle. They don't give her a backbone at all. No. Like if she's ever said anything for herself, which she. This week because she's not wrong and left Linley anyone on the side of the oh, my God for sure and luanne used to be my favorite really struggling this season. You know, she is. She is best on some level when she has been humbled. Yeah. And she is on a cabaret cloud in the sky. I like her. I always liked her confidence, then, like she could walk into a room, even she's be like gorge, and she's, she's also like a fucking idiot. I like that. But she's like not since she's sober. She's just not maybe making she's not so. Here. I mean, look, she's struggling, and I think that's the always struggling, but she seems to end she's put herself she's not smart because she has put herself in a position to be surrounded by alcohol. Right. And none of these women should be on dinners, and you know what I mean like you need to get a hold of your believe, I, I have not done the steps. And so there are people that are wiser than me that no more. But I do believe that you have take yourself out of harm's way until you're ready to get in harm's way. And she jumped right into that Cav ratio like she left rehab to get to Everett. I'm so I just I mean it's probably terrible of me to say, but, like, I, I don't think I don't want them to get help. I know because then it's like. For for the show. It doesn't work for their lives. It's probably, but. Dining mike. Good. What is Sonia? She's pouring in but she's a lot. I think she's gonna live, no matter wino-. She's pickled forever, and she's going to let us she's like one of those people like that. You hear like drain Muench drank moonshine until they were on hundred and they were fine. You know, like I mean, she could get hit by a bus tomorrow and be fine. Though. I mean, like why stop drinking because she should enjoy your life is what you're saying. It helps me enjoy mine. Yeah. Of course. And he. No. But when she got upset because of the sand, you know, obviously more than that, her, like freaking out over the sand and win hearing it and being like she's zoo. You're in the woodland anybody wanna go. I will. She the pool gorgeous. We're going to go down to the beach or what? And everyone was like going. Without Trump fries, which they didn't get which I totally was like. I literally went to the kitchen during that I was like I need something, the fact that they didn't get the prize was so upsetting to me was one of the more upsetting aspects of the entire up. Speaking of did you notice in the kitchen at one point when they're showing the snacks and they were just like Christmas cookie. So. No so bizarre. It dipping them. It felt feels like a dental a pack those all the way from New York. Down to Miami or like her her Santa sisters. My showing up the Santa. They were just sitting there on the table. I don't know now. Casey is not here, but she wanted to chime in on a moment that she thought was one of the more devastating moments of the episode and she calls in from a car to recorded message and so we're going to play that right now. Low everyone. It's Casey reporting to you live from San Francisco. I'm so sorry. I'm not there tonight. I just found out that my brother's wife was going into labor and two hours later. I'm on the ground. In San Francisco. He's had a healthy baby. I could not be up here. I'm crying and laughing wish my mom was here to see this. I'm just so overjoyed and yet, and yet I needed in an abrupt shift in topic I needed to speak on Tim's lease monologue last night to Brett in New York on the date. I know a lot of other things happened in the episode that Blair and genu- will intrepid -ly report on, like barbs Tanner, self Tanner. But by the way, cried, two times on behalf of barb and the episode those fucking. Bitches barbara's. Nice person. She must get off the show, but she's very nice. Nice. But what I'm here to speak about today is the monologue that we cut to ever so briefly, well, Tinsley was on a date that Bethany Cyrano diversion for her with read. This is the conversation, our beloved incredible producers and cameramen found for us. I'm sorry, if it's so loud, here is the monologue. We dropped in on with Tinsley on a date with Bret reminder to anyone who hasn't seen it. This is a first date. And honestly, this is twenty seconds of a two hour date. This is what we get in twenty seconds. So reminder, not an impersonation just simply a. Call to action really? Here we go. From tinsley. I haven't make shot. I was in jail. I was in jail just so you know, they were like Tinsley you can't you can't go you can't go on a date with him because, because he, he doesn't wanna have kids, I was like, first of all, girl, I don't even know, actually want one. My, my mother wants me to it's, it's a whole thing. I don't know. I am forty three probably should. It's a, it's a whole other thing, maybe what doesn't matter. I'm not talking about that. I'm just saying might be okay with just Joa. Fem-. Discuss process. Mullet over this flag day flagged everyone, congratulations to Fletcher in cathlene, love you all back to you next week, this episode of Newark truly was as Andy Cohen himself Email, does the episode where the pot boils over over an outback to you Daniel Blair. Show. It was so devastating I kept saying to myself, stop, stop stop, please. It's like she keeps having to repeat that she's forty-three, like, like reminding herself telling us, and it's like I know that like, and the mugshot the shot tensely just shut up. What Tennessee does? It's like when I have a huge zig on my face, and I need to walk into a room and be like I have, I know I have it. So nobody needs to talk because I don't have that type of things that she's doing put so much worse. Yeah. I mean saying it so that nobody else can say it, but nobody else's saying then they're not going to just meet meet a person. I'm the only two and then what about her mother the kids? Just gave me that feeling you have before you're about to throw up, and you're like, am I going up? Yeah. And you start to get like saliva swallowing. That's what that moment, gave me feeling recounting leaning over the toilet being, like I think I'm going to do, and it's almost better to throw up. But that's what like it'll be over soon. It'll be over hopefully. Yeah. I was thinking like this date will be over. So it's I mean I don't understand her because I don't like even saying like your forty-three like that's perfectly fine. And we see that is exactly what she looks like actually she looks exactly that and sweet and got a cute little thing going on. She doesn't need to do much. She's just shut up. She'd be better off for the kind of guy that she wants because the kind of guy that she wants isn't going to want somebody who has left basic. She wants guys, it's just gonna like entertain or like she's going to entertain while he goes to work like this sort of, like nineteen fifty nineteen sixties version of women that her mother's taught her, and if she could just shut her mouth, she'll she can get that. I think that Brett is, is that's where she should be going because like she's not, like her personality sucks. I don't like to say, I think she sucks. But like she should be going for an older man. It was like a younger guys going to get sick of her going for that older guy. That's not gonna be able to get pregnant unfortunately, but she does other twelve and she and she has. Yeah. So when you freeze your eggs, yeah, they're good. But then to go who gets them like if she well, she could have his sperm, probably mostly fine to like you, can I think it's, it's Janke. Can you get a woman pregnant in your sixties? Okay. Charlie Chaplin had like kids when he was like mine, only really quite good. Michael Douglas like they're all like one hundred fair. While someone reasonally, I think, like Billy Joel just had a baby. And he is like the full of booze and music, be buried some girl, I went to college with. No, we graduate. She graduated in two thousand and three Saint Mary's like I had my chance with Billy Joel. And I really did you have a night with. No. I never met him. What have been your guy? Oh, yeah. I have a real, I'm a Spanish range level attract like I am attracted to strange. I mean, my I think my husband's very handsome. But sure, I also have a thing for like weird men who else I am attracted to. Who else on the show, what Brett whose Brad, the kind that? Oh, oh, no. I found him very attract. Yeah. But who on the show? I find what's his name, who was just saying Ramona made out with? Oh, do I found the area attractive? Like I get the do that my grandpa grandpa, like a bad, but, like Jack Nicholson fifteen years ago. Okay. You know what I mean something in? That is sure. It's not. I'm not proud of it, right. Being honest. Right at this point, I guess, I get Billy Joel, though. I know it's strange. It's strange, but something about that voice. You know. But yes, Kinsley was so sad. That was just Thurs one other thing that just going back on. So she did say, quote, when I go out to party, I go out to party and I love that because there are some people when they are going out to party, they're just like not a good time. I like that Sonia knows like. She's going to do it. She's going to go all out and I do like that. She can go two nights in a row. Oh, she can read four or five, she can do it and never Stein. The other thing is like every episode every episode of New York, this is another reason why I love that show is one night like they do so much shit in one night that it's a full episode. My gosh charm as weeks we get like Craig's Craig sleeply waking up being led gloss. Somebody my pillow. That's months of taking through right now. This is three hours in Miami. It's I mean that is so amazing. Oh, another great moment, when they're all at the house like eating crab cakes. Bethany says to Barbara like like they're all toasting pharma that she goes we fail connected. Barbara. Congratulations, Barbara you connected with us because you talk shit about. Lou like it was such a sad moment within Luay. Unlike traipsing down the, the street, like in my fair lady, what he's thinking, like often down the street. But like when he was like on the street. But it's like traipsing along and then going to see her her cavalry picture picture out of the theater and saying amazing that was. Maybe the saddest moment for me. Oh, I had that moment. So many times it wasn't even, like Bill. It was just your picture on the wall. That was that was tragedy. So just and then having just like giggling. They didn't think I could. No. We could the other thing. That's while they all like college like all the housewives and Jarrell, call each other narcissist. Oh, yeah, but it's like they all are. But she is gone beyond like she can't even sheet us. I've never seen layover narcissist. Like when Bethany was breaking down which almost brought me to tears. Yeah. I mean, she didn't know what to do with it. It was like, yeah, that was wild. And let's talk about that argument a little because. Bethany lost it. She lost it on. Lou at that dinner, and like just because Lewis paying attention, and we have a clip that we're gonna play from that now 'cause you're and hassle that didn't even have lunch with us today that you go to look at your own poster. I went yours. Women God say you're missing her pain. You're gonna. This is standard this weekend. For you. She's being endorsement, I'm it's not is no. She's my. She's saved. You. I had lawyers come to your house on Sunday. I spoke to your kids. I sat outside and driveway to make sure that you didn't you? You want to count your friends you running in a field, and Memphis and had to be taken and cop cars, and I made sure that they have according to not get a west. I was not in. The rehab that I Gotcha. We sorely by them. Yes, you too week early to go. Your fickle. Kabir. The I mean the image of her running through the field in the negligee. I think it's quite glamorous. Because if I were running away from the cobs, or anyone, it would be in a pair of leg periods west. You know what I mean? Negligent ages by herself sipping a MARTINI. I mean, I know it's tragic, but it's glamorous tragic fair at does it just sounds like the image of someone who just had a complete psychotic break. Severi blanche do. Gosh, go someone for me. Oh, the boys I must put on Monday. Why? And she thinks the cops are the bowl like oh must suit. I don't like obsessed with it. And also the fact that during this whole argument I wish we had a visual this rate on this game at like a lobster pop tart comes. Say there there's a there's a popcorn machine. There was a big old pink toaster. They were eating was so contrary to what was happening has, like so in congress, I was like what is. And editor going to the. Do I think there's a full blown Puffer machine of like a movie theater popcorn machine on the Tim knowing what this restaurant Sir Martin g I had to do look it up. What's on that menu? I said that to says, watching with my family, and she was like, that's just what they do there. And I was like why? Like Surrey brought a pink toaster with top in the middle of this cra-. The huge Sonia size, does are with two J normal pop tarts, as big as my head, and it was never seen. And I was so proud of the editors for like focus like needed to advance needed to get a full picture. And they really and then there's Lou and her Florida florals. Because if you remember she's like from the monk. She loves a long floral when she's Gina's. Even when she was going to a and she had her long dress on, and she in a Sony such a slit up to our Koch, or whatever. I think so, which it was wearing to a too much. She was like, no you. It was like why people are gonna be just all sorts of ways like, who care? How about Durant as white suit that night? Did you see that? Was so much going on that we'll win. Beth was I think it was all the same moment when Bethany started noticing that she had gotten period all over something. And she goes I mean, unless it's chocolate. Women lost their minds. They just let it all hang out. Just. I mean, it was Bethany was like losing her bread. I mean something's obviously going on, like she is. It's the Dennis of it all, you say this. She says this every fucking season, though. I mean last year when she when they're in Cartagena and she had the flip out on on Carol Carol. I mean she lost her mind there, too. She was crying that whole trip. It just isn't a trip in less Bethany and I appreciate down this. I mean she was elating and just freaking out, it was terrifying. And I think that I mean just in general, I love to watch her, and I think I like her in some ways, but, like I could that's on energy. I could ever imagine. Could you even imagine being on the receiving end of her comfort like what she was doing tomorrow? No, it was. It was all too much. I mean he's a lot ten she's too much. And then when they cut to the scenes from next week if they don't even mention it, it's not even a part of the plot like and, like, so we just we're going to pretend the nut that, that didn't if I saw someone behaving in that way, I would be like, I think you need to go home, and I think you need to get your shit together because there's something going. On here and you need rest and you need to be home. But that's also I'm like they like play to the TV show a little I mean that seem that's beautiful acting if it is. But I mean I mean I couldn't I consider myself clean offense. And as you and could you hit those notes. I mean fuck. No. Those can you can you paint with those colors. Like there was one fight where it was, like, maybe Louis n and Dhirendra or something in the homeland, they fought. And then they made. Oh way, only I was like you guys just I mean, I would carry that with me for days. And that's when I'm like, oh, that's because they have to be like we're going to ham it up a little bit right now. But I want you to know you're still kinda girl. I but with those I don't know. Just I mean, they're all these, they're all psycho, like, none of them have bounded. They're all narcissistic. None of them truly boundaries. I don't I think you're right. I got something they have low expectations are higher expectations than they should for anyone. But then they're just used to that not getting met. So it's like. At whatever, just remember that when all the women were like chanting at barbeque energy is everything and Giese three thing awesome. Yes. Yes. It's everything. Energy is ever. Go bar. Your energy is weird why but to be show to have a group of women shouting in your face energy is everything. It's not fair. And then I last thing, I'll say if anything else about New York. But in the promo for next week before I had heard the full feeling Giovanni song, just one of the other Lear that she's wrapping in AA sort of lake saying, which is one day at a time. Is nothing sacred. Nothing is sacred who's, like the, the producers on these songs like are they in on it? She can't write that shit. Right. But I mean, do they realize that this is all just like a big joke, like, do they really think she's talented or they kind of, like this will be that's something they think about, I think they're cashing checks, and they're kind of like, just ever say whatever, whatever the fun will make it good. Yeah. We'll make a catchy. I mean, I'm listening. I can't imagine that it has less than, like hundreds of thousands of downloads because everybody is like me, and I'm like this train wreck is now a part of my, the songbook in my head, and the songbook of my life. And I know you touched on it last week. But we're the problem. Yeah. Lawyer the problem. And I'm I like it. Take a break. Yeah. Absolutely. If you've ever struggled to conceive than, you know, getting pregnant isn't always easy. Timing is everything, and it can be tough to know when your chances are the highest I know I've talked about on this podcast. 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A women, plural dot com slash housewives code house wise for wherever you are on your life. Okay, we're back and I have to. Players something really funny, where she was like at one point. What did you just say to me? I said about New York looking through my notes, and I just had the empty bucket. And I was trying to remember what it was like. Oh at one point there at the pool and Sonia just went and they have an empty bucket. She was just losing all. Oh, just Byrol was so strange. It's funny. How many spirals are episode like multiple women lost their mind barb in one day, barb, tens Lee that day was, we have to call it like we see, like we see it. So barb Tinsley Sonia, Sonia. Bethany landless cool as a cucumber. I mean, tabby yelled at like that. And to just be like what you're talking about. Yeah I'm fine. I did care about her. Like to has that reserve. I would be in tears. Yeah. I mean I like to have everyone's popping off at her. And she's she she's not even sweating. I bet she's not wearing Tom's Gilder. Like I am sweating up a storm. Sorry to keep talking about New York. I know we did this last week too. But it's so good. They're so much to say. I'm sure I forgot something. Oh, they've picture the kiss between Harry do Ben and. Oh, god. Her mouth was inside his mouth. It was incredible. I don't know how it was like a one of those little Russian dolls and just keep opening. And there's more people, it looks like he was just getting like sucker all the way in it was quiet. But again, I'm gonna try that kiss sometimes yeah. Perry. One time, let's Go's mind it should we talk Potomac. I'd love to these ladies the era trip a trip. Now we open with the episode and Robbins. Casual is you. It's never met a dress. She wants to put on, like she's always, she's Denise Richard. She's just always like just I just throw this on doesn't give a fuck. I like Robin a lot. I love Robin. Gorgeous to gorgeous beautiful. I love her hair. I mean she is, and I love her relationship with Lana, and I've said this on the podcast before, but she is just the least amount of energy, a person could. Her the amount of energy. I just give saying hi to someone like, that's what she uses in a day, that's a great point. Now, if I had to pick like a couple on all of the housewives Dama threesome with it, be her one. Yeah. Good. Oh, great hot both in a second. Right. Okay. I'm great. Who would I have a threesome with we'll Harian? Harry and who am? Depends, where he is that day. But yeah, I guess they would be my favorite because I'm into candy but not Todd. Yeah, but I am into those a lot of the Atlanta women. Yeah. And they have and they go with they go with hunky. They like I mean before Apollo's problems. I would've said him. Yeah. And Pedro, they hot-looking gosh, I actually just looked at a picture of them today, but because he, he had a pro I relation and I went out of prison. Snooze regarding might've been that hollow today. Papers of choice news, some news, but sorry backed Potomac. How did this one start? I can't even remember I do. Remember Katie, who's back from the dead, Katie got surgery on her hands. So don't sweat. I've heard of it will doing that. Never heard of that. I think you just get Boateng's or some in your hands. Yeah, interesting. I mean, I'm saying that like that's normal I feel like I've just heard people say, I have a dry hand. So that's in fact, I would say they're more like tough than sweating. So that's not my problem. But I feel you could have that, but still have a dry clammy hand. You're not going to vote on roads. I think it's a disease. My hand your hands in particular scary. Scaly sweaty thing. Oh, there's like a name for it. I sound like a doctor. You do believe you. I'm like, okay. She must know she saying. -pletely. And then we got to see Katie trying on nipple tassels with Ashley, and you know, what wonderful boobs both of them, terrific? I I wouldn't my breast couldn't hold a try like a tiny triangle would those would just fall. Right. My nipples be like no. Let's know what would be worse. If would be it didn't cover the full nipple. You know, at all about me to look, having a baby is not great, the Bod. And so there. Grow and never, shrink. I mean, I guess there I don't even know. Like I don't it's look, it's tough all over and so that you can't hide anything in a nickel type like I like lingerie as, as I've said on the podcast, tonight's things and the sweats. Yeah, I am. I'm basically like full and they go. Yeah, I'm like a granny Nike if anything I'm basically just in, like a one c it's great. I liked Katie this soda thought she brought it you did. Yeah. She is giving us something she was. So I just I love somebody with a hangover and I love that. She couldn't get out of bed. The lesson that was late. If I like the fact that everyone else can bounce back. All go on a trip with my friends. Like if I get fucked up that night like everyone's like what come into for you? What can we get, you know, but, you know for me? My favorite is still Karen, just her turns of phrases when she was saying, like trust and believe, I wanna start adding that to my repertoire. Trust and believe I just want to say that to people like, after I say, something like Trump is the belief might just like it made me giggle, so hard love her. How about when she was when Karen was feeding? Brutus Brutus being the big old, alligators. Alligator was terrifying. Fun of said he older than Michael. There's only when they were going to the alligators Ravin kept going. All right. Ready to ride the alligators like she's willing to write us why she was in such a casual short all the ladies like did it up. And she's like, I'm going on my short four writing alligator. 'cause I don't wanna wear pants on our leader. That would that's just bad planet shorts because, you know, alligators are scaling. Pants on a bucking Bronco alligator that we're going to ride a horse. I mean she said it numerous ties ride the alligators ready to ride the alligators. Didn't even notice that. Thank you for strongly. What am I the saddest things that happen on the episode? The to me just made me feel really terrible. But also made me laugh was when Candice starts singing happy birthday, and no one starts that was. I just kept thinking what would my dad do? If one of my friends started singing happy birthday to him like that. Nobody starts singing along that Ashley sort of came in at the end, it was the it was almost as bad as Tinsley talking about her mugshot and her and her chihuahuas. Yeah. It was tough. Oh stuff. Singing in Kansas. Nothing voice isn't good. It's not great. It's not. It's not great. I mean, it's not Tim's Zoll Ceac, but it's not great. Yeah. I to your friend's dad Curtis. He's turning eighty and she doesn't even know. No Karen has relationship with cells. Got it seems like they have like a bit of a rice in Robin. But this is like Kansas, just, like I know what this party needs me my voice singing to a man. I just how it was wild who's like, really really boring me the season who Monique. Yeah. Well, maybe is it because she's yeah. It does take the life. Let out of you like I mean for me. I don't care to watch anybody engaged or anybody pregnant really take it out. Like it's not like I think like that's not bun. It's not as unique as people pretend. Like it's not as a person who did it. There's a lot of going around a lot of women do that. You've got to bring more to the table than just be like if you can't drink I don't know, if you're not drinking on, well, we've had pregnant people on the show, but they I mean who we have that has been pregnant has still brought it? I mean Bethany. Yeah. But she's just like psycho enough. Yeah. So you need to be Bush's. Other drama Theresa was pregnant, but we just on like reunion. A is that it does it take the lifeline? I think especially because. Mony. Upbringing minist-, I wanna say, like pregnant women can do everything. But then maybe they can't be bad shape. Crazy. Maybe we'll maybe it's the universe saying to them, like get this isn't a healthy place for you. Don't be on TV while you're nurturing a life in your body, which she staying there and going to see or baby born like so entertaining. Children are so cute though, like I. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're okay. They are adorable children. But you're right. I mean, like unless you're bringing something table being pregnant isn't enough for me. It's not my say this is a woman who has been pregnant, and as work through her pregnancy, and you have to bring it what you do. And I I love him. My friends are pregnant. I love my friends. No. You don't. I truly do truly do but I don't need to hear you. Tell me about, and all the time, you're not you're not bringing enough to table. Oh, yes, you got stand up or get learn your lesson from barb. Did Karen blow up at Giselle for setting boundaries because it seems to me, Karen has set a lot of boundaries? And then she doesn't want to Zell to set boundaries. Like when you're trying to like rationalize with a completely irrational person. Yeah. So, like I feel like anybody who who's who talks about boundaries a lot, and it's like they clearly don't have any. Yeah. Oh, I mean, like Karen doesn't neither of them have, but I feel like just was like okay because she was punishing. Karen boundaries, and Karen could feel that. I mean that initial shock of someone like this is where the line, I'm drawing the line. And then it's like fuck you, I know but it was like literally like last episode cameras. Like this is my line just was like, okay. I hear like Giselle took it and said, all right. Okay. Like I'm going to try and work within your boundaries. And then like, and she's like, I'm going to see you that boundary and set some of my own cameras, like no fucking way feel like dealt with. People like that before I think I am that person. Can't have that energy around me. And then when someone says that about me, I'm like. Great energy. Kill to be around me. Entertain a lot of people appreciate, you know. And so I am that person's understand it, it's just weird. One person. I wanted to make note of was Dookie chase. This restaurant, I think she's like a famous like, you know, a person in, in in New Orleans. I think she's like civil rights leader, and a chef and has done amazing, great works. I really want to have that Gumbo, such Gumbo. Yeah, I'm for me. I thought Dookie chase was like, maybe she's my hairy Dubin laid have sex with want to. He's had like the most beautiful smile like her. Like how old was she one hundred something like and? Your choose my hair because I was looking at Dookie the chair her wheelchair mater, looker, h but her face, oh, beautiful skin less wrinkles, Kirk. Yeah, I felt like an old baseball met looking, like she was she Harry new going. I was just as Harry Dube, and we should double should double date with Dookie and do. She's like a stalwart of the community in a good person, Harry visa to shift. A record and it's probably saved lives and, and Harry do take another. Some sort of syphilis or something, so you don't think that my crushes quite as good as my mile Dookie smile them. My goodness. It does. Where were they eating? They're eating a buffet. At some point. Did you see the that was at the birthday party? Yeah. And it was like a why did they announce that it was a white party or would they just all wearing white? I can't remember I didn't detail. I didn't. I mean it seems like if you're on a housewife show, you're like you got white because odds are it's out party like in all the cities we've had at least two. So, and I know we've had one on Potomac. So like when in doubt, if you're like, oh, fuck was at the whiting. Wear it. You cannot go wrong all white party, or a flapper dress. And you are good to go. You gotta have that one under the other just in case you're unclear as to, which one it is. But you're seeing. For both of those, and then they showed that the food buffet and I wasn't I thought it was delicious. I mean, I think it's just that I love a buffet and I get excited about it. But then I also my brain being like I'm gonna go overboard. You're already judging you out of a that you cannot reach with your hands, because it's on the Tonia. So I already felt full full and guilty. Yes and worried. Food issues. I know I know we gotta talk about. We'll talk about it. All right. So we take them a little break. Absolutely. 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It's literally it and it's already on the internet. Austin's parents sought. He said that this week and it's ham with, like a semi hard Boehner. It's so. Oh, I know. So. What's her name his fund? Yeah. I cannot remember Morgan or thing, and he's like yelling at her. She's just another like oh, they're in blonde. I don't know no offense to any other blow. But it's just that they're just like what's wrong with the world. All of everyone around him enabling all of them like the fact that Craig has that girl that just is like doing his life for. It's like she's doing nothing to do. And where's he getting the money to afford? I'm sorry. But so there cannot be paying that will he's like an influence, or like does all those ads on this, filet tummy t- like serious, as I've never been asked to be influence. I am when I'm probably don't have nearly enough followers, but not a fab fit fund to found the Lord for reality, TV people. I know that he knows somebody could offer me a three one zero putting that out there hitting it out there. Happy to embrace nothing bad for the bond. It's on box, but whatever anything. Oh, please best. I'm your best has talk you up. If you are in the influence. Happy on the payroll, but can't mean he does nothing all that girl is literally just doing his life or like. Yeah. He has an opportunity to do something that nobody else wants but there are buying it because he's on this show and again, we are the problem. Yes. Get get up and make a goddamn all like that Austin Shep. I mean even fucking Pat, like she's got the servant. Or what is that called a Butler? Yes. Doing everything for her. It's like why can't anybody do nobody can do? None of them are working even know. So it's like. It's dark if you really think like show. At that sad. Tree house this, I mean pretty but like I don't know it feels like and rainy. I mean to. She and her wanting to get stuff from Katherine, and Katherine is not a person that will ever be able to pin down. So, you know, it's trying to to, you know, like what is that the expression like squeeze rock squeeze water from a stone like at one, but like I is it from the bible. Maybe maybe it's from just the breakfast club. From something again, that thing where these people have these expectations that any of these other humans are going to act like rational human beings, but it's like we know that they're all mentally ill. I mean, I don't believe Danny is, I think they'll yeah. Yeah. And when they showed all those clips of her actually going for Catherine, I was like oh, you are a good person are trying. But at the same time Danny's, like thirty five and Catherine's twenty two. So expect I mean if I were going on vacation with twenty two year olds I would be like I don't put me down, like no it's just and not that people of all different ages can't go too long. But you have to expect from date new goal. So I'm not aegis. No. You're just saying. Like we should know what to expect from people, and I'm blame Danny for expecting more from Kenya. Catherine is giving us all. She's got. And that's gotta be enough though. One point, I think it was the last episode where like she goes away for two days to New York to meet with his old man, another old man that she's dating. I say he's probably my age, but I just made her and he's because I'm one hundred but I push she comes home. And she's like male just you over. Two days and she's like, oh, the male just so like upset over over wrought from male like too much for. She can't handle mail, Danny. She can't handle anything L, right? I mean, none of these kids, and an exits going to, like, just just just accept and Shep was like she's acting like a child, she's. I mean chef acting like is this moral? High ground is something that is so maddening to me. Like, what are you? He has. No doing. It's like when like guys just say that, like, oh, that guy's a really good guy. And I'm like, in what sense of the word now, like how now he's not to say that about frat boy who never has gone up who still in a frat and it was like forty and he's. Yeah. And that's just not a great place to one other thing I noticed about Craig when he was at lunch with ship. He was like jittery times. He's not sleeping and just taking Adderall. And none of those guys are well all of their livers are about to explode. Look, the fuel of reality TV is alcl, yeah. We know that to be true. Yeah. But and it it keeps us going. But it has side effects in that great. And honestly, that's why I I still watch summer house. You don't watch not only because I just haven't had a minute yet. But I mean everyone. Should be watching it. It's like it reminds me gives me an executive watching it reminds me of, like, maybe when I was in my twenties, I would just get like I worked like office job and I would get work all week and then on the weekends I would get fucked up from the second, I left work until like Sunday night, and I'd go to work on Monday, and they'd be like, how was your weekend, I would have no voice, it'd be like, if it's laid back. Just clean my hands organize my bills and fade everything it was really low key taking care of a dog right now. And so they party so hard and destroy themselves all weekend. So I remember the exile that, that would give me. So I see it and I get that. And they're also they're scum of the earth to summer house. There's something I gotta take them. My next new show is going to be married to medicine. I've decided dies, the next one, I'm taking on. But I feel after that summer house could be mixed their push for below deck over summer house, but summer house, southern charm is like dipping. I'm just below below deck. Oh, yes. Other Germans worse than below deck below deck is rising, I would say below deck is over even I mean, because Vander pump, I felt was is losing steam for me. Interesting, so, because they're all sort of like getting married and money now. And it's like, Nah, I know they make like a million nineties, easy houses, Ron like what's happening to our to our children. Yeah. Are happening tour. This is who's making all the money like. Yeah. So vendor pump just got a little. No. You don't I that a saying that's the summer houses, you're below deck will as I've said, Mendham the podcast, I have dipped into blow Dak on planes, and I very much enjoy. Yeah. So it's not that I'm opposed to it. It's just trying to juggle on all one. I mean, there's some fun about them being kind of like all they're stuck together. And they, they hook up and people have sex on on like in a small boat in night-vision. Yes. They're bare. I've seen some things I can't on C on below John, and I work together the next day, I know close quarters and sound like when you stop off, like where are you going like you can't, they can't escape each other. They just have to go below deck. Exactly. That's club. I'm having a thought. So then I was going to say about Potomac ocean just to go back. One thing I was thinking something that I think it's actually when they were fighting over like whether Ashley should have kids or like she's shouldn't be drinking. If she wants to have kids stuff. Like that. It made me think of like, like how they're telling each other how to live each other's lives. Like I do that. Like, I have an opinion on how everybody should live their life, but I would never say it to somebody's face. I think that's really interesting to see that they're literally set like telling someone like, well, this is where you have to do if you wanna get break net. I'm always saying, well, if somebody wants to get pregnant, they should be doing this. The fact that they're saying to someone has miscarried and not asking for your help. You have never been through for Tillis issues yourself and you're giving fucking advice. It's wild -tainer fucking lane. But if these women's stayed in their lane, we wouldn't be exactly, what are we watching? But yeah, so I can't say a much better because I have opinions on how everybody should live their life. That's all I talk about. But on animal sorry, I got off there. But I was just thinking of that. I don't really have anything more to say about southern term, I to say, I, I hate Pat. Yeah. She's an awful then that scene win. What's her servants name? I cannot remind something when heat is when she had pick up the two dogs under his arms and Waddell out of the room, the stories, Michael my have. Oh, god. The fact that he does it. I'm just the show is just people in Ebeling these. Yeah. Lunatic. Yeah. And Pat starting to look like Michael Jackson, too. Oh, she's done her, and Lisa Vander pump, both on work. Speaking of lease Ravana pump. I want to go to Beverly Hills. We'll take a little break, and then we'll come back. Okay. We're back with Beverly Hills. Now, Blair, you are not a huge watcher of Beverly Hills, but you have some interesting insight into the into the world. I talk about it. Yeah, we can talk a little bit about it. I know I know John Sessa session as you like. You say, you know the John session the one involved in the in Lucy juicy apple Guzzi juicy Lucy juicy apple. She sees Lucy apple juicy. Yes. And I stopped watching mid loosey goosey too much for you to your friend impair. I think I was just like the I wasn't connecting to nobody connecting to it. Nobody cares about it and I was watching him like, well, he's we were good friends in high school. Yeah. I won't make. But it's wild. We've been in touch because I did text him after that one too. I keep saying them over to his house for a game night, but just haven't gotten it on the and I as and has he given you any insight into the controversy that nobody cares about. Yeah I texted him once about I was with Casey. We went on a walk by walk. I mean we walked to a restaurant. That's gonna got like yeah. Food, or drinks or something. But and there, I texted, John to ask him about, like for insight on the puppy thing, and he didn't say much other than like he really didn't know what whoever the to read or who had did with the dogs, and then I kind of stopped watching. So I didn't have enough to ask him. But I know him to be when degree away for us is furious. It's pretty special. And I wish I kept up because I could get John talked to him in years. And then, like all of a sudden Texas. Well, we've saw you on TV we've reconnected when I moved out here. Okay. And so we hung out, like once or twice and DD tell you he was going to be involved in a storyline, the seasonal. He just pops up on your Bravo's green, and you're like what the fuck he just popped up in my brother. But I knew that he worked because the one time I went to see him when I moved here like three years ago, I went to his house, and he, they were starting vendor pump dogs. So there was a room full of docs, shit dog shit. And I got a doggy caller with, like big studs on it. Do you have a dog? No. I gave it to somewhat, but I had it for months. You've got from John session. I don't why aren't you? I don't know with you. Like a trophy. I don't know why I took it. I it wasn't even like a gift. It was like do want what and I was like, sure. So I took it home and I had it forever, and I gave it to someone. But I will say, I don't remember people stand, where do you think that he is just like an assistant because he actually is, I believe he is in charge of operation. He's I think John blizzard is an assistant because John Sesa. He has like a special session. Yes. He's like smart and has a like I remember when I met up with him. He was like a venture capitalist. And he was investing in feels. Vandermeer coutts. Kouts. He does. But then I look at Instagram now and it's all I will say, I am saving dogs. I went to the Vanda pump dogs website this week because we are looking for dog right now. And we would like we got an awesome rescue dog last time. And she was her first baby. And so to find another one now. And so I went to from I was like I can't I just can't mix. Yeah. I don't want wanna shit where I just feel like not that they know who I am. They have no idea like no tagging, obviously guys out of our policies. I don't want her to know just felt like I felt like I was like in her house. I shouldn't be. And I was like, I don't think I can mix those worlds though. There were some very cute dogs. So anybody else's looking should definitely feel like going in there. I don't know again. They don't know exists on the planet. I haven't not worried about that. I wonder though, because like I'm scared to say much more about John. Covering your mouth, you'll learn. But no. And as you know, of course, I wouldn't want you to, you know, say anything about a friend, but it is like it's like, yeah it's hard to make the world. But I am looking for John. Is this what you're looking? We did make out once straight, when you were both straightening, both are no longer. Good night. Wow. In you guys and look at you. Now. I have showed him like I hang out with some gig out. I'm like look at this guy in there. Hugh, and John sash had a wonderful long ago. Both are attracted to the mean to the same sex, the opposite of what we are making our, that's a story for the ages. Yeah. And now I mean, this is going to be controversial if I say this, but so he's obsessed with like saving the Ulan dogs or. Yes. Lisa as his, Lisa. Yeah. Variant you'll in dog meat festival and having that go way, as of course of horse really. I'm a monster year. Okay. Why, not why, why do we draw the line? They're allowed to say that I. The difference between dogs and horses. Goats. I would need to go, but somebody would I'll drink their milk. I'll fuck out of their people eat goat here. I'll eat of I'll, I'll eat that go cheese like going out of style. Fucking put a pile of it in my mouth slurp down real nice. Can you slurp it? I will find a fucking deserved echo. Geez. I have piles of. I just feel like I don't know if that's what your biggest causes Sarah dog. You are. I'm just I don't know. I worry about people more than no. But I'll tell you. I like if I watch a movie and somebody dies movie. I'm like, fuck it who cares. But if a dog fuck, I cannot watch movie where a dog is have you ever had no? If I could eat. Dog fund, which I wouldn't you're not gonna eat a dog. You're gonna eat rusty over here. You are not eating dog. I know I probably wouldn't I. I just feel like I don't know. That's one of those things where serve you. When night human dog dog, and I'm going to see, I think, yeah. Would you eat a person? No. I think that's where the line is drawn from his human. That's the one I wouldn't eat. That's what you would everything else. I feel like it's, it's, it's, it's all up for grabs. It's a cultural thing I feel like good for you. Okay. Good for me. I don't know. Like I went to Argentina and people were eating horse there. I mean I couldn't I tried it. I couldn't actually I couldn't order it, but teddy Mellon. And that's fine. Fucking. Oh, wow. These are real. This is real coming out. Okay. This is a bull. I love it. I love it. Okay. I'm just going to say things quick because I don't know what I. Nudie dog. And you've eaten. I think honestly, I think it was a pony. Maybe it was just born just learn to dragged away from his mother. Sean. Eat lambs baby Liam. I do not. Wow. I know this point I'm like I want nothing. Good for anybody. I'm like the girls have to keep drinking. And I, I want dogs horses on my plane as except braised concede. However, however, I'll take him a goddamn. Honestly, probably how you'd want to Vicki picky casserole. Oh my. This dark. Okay. Love it. Or giving me I'm obsessed with you. Okay, this that I remembered during their vacation, when they're all going to France, and they're all like, why are we carrying our luggage to guys like backup? Like, why are we creating our luggage hearing our luck the luggage that somebody else packed for me? Somebody else should be carrying it. Like the I've never said that in my life. I'm always like carrying a huge trunk be like guess. I guess. I can't imagine just thinking I literally pack thinking, like Willoughby lifted into the been. Yeah. And even if I'm not like I'll find do I find the way back out. Casey has flown to carrying luggage bit. Also trying on a bra, but we all difficulties another thing was like, I don't piss me off so much when they're in this beautiful castle, or state, and Teddy's on the fucking treadmill morning, it made me so angry. Like I was so angry with her, and I know it's because I have guilt about my own feelings, and how I am not in shape enough and on helping my body enough, but like, you know, healthy stuff like that. But it just made me angry. Yeah. And I totally get that. It's like when someone says they're like a vegan or something. And then you get mad. And it's like you're just mad at yourself. Why don't I take better care my? Yes, of course, like like an anger. I felt hot and it's 'cause she sucks. But also, like it's my issue of two. Oh, I hit the way Doritos PEOs, which is like it's in the PR. It had twenty syllables. Like, all right. We get it. You're fucking European even though you're not. And then with these are just Bove. It's really made me laugh when Lisa said when she was talking about her talking about Erica, Jane. And how she was like playing ca Jane. And she was like as an actor. I really commit to what I was like I have seen you in many performances lease are not always the same always the say. And I'm happy for this performance. I'm not complaining, but let's not pretend you're sinking your marital. Meryl Streep in this shit over here. You're not right thinking your teeth and to Erica. Jane, the character, it's just not gonna speaking of Merrill. Did you see your big little lies course terrifying that scream? Oh my God. I thought it was even more time when she had that quiet which is like you basically. Ripley's from Chile. Trust short people. Scary screams. When people it's just son insult. I'm just saying that was house lies, just saying it. You don't get. But when she mentioned she was gonna scream I was like, don't do it that, like that feeling of what you feel before you're going to throw up feeling. Yeah. Gonna happen. It's gonna shake me now is. And then the thing is just. Of course Kyle buying another hat. I mean, she never not lying at. It was just like all right. We got it you like on your head. And then just the fact that Erica has zero sense of humor about herself. And I feel like she does have a sense of humor for just about herself. It's just it doesn't look good on her, when she doesn't have his since better, and it's not like the someone dressing up her. She likes that because that's a celebration of her. But when someone's making fun of her, she just can't. I mean I don't know. Nothing makes me laugh harder than when people make fun of it makes me. I mean obviously if it's just mean-spirited I don't like that. But you can tell the difference with someone's just like having a go at your of somebody's really like totally like insulting you. And so she's not just doing having a go at you. But she someone to or it's like she peaked. And it's just like I know what are we? What are we getting? Yeah. But Beverly Hills in general to me, it's like what, what is it anymore? It's like all the people that live in LA. Like, there's so many crazy, interesting people here ain't need to wipe the I mean, and even a different pocket of Los Angeles. And there, so many crazy narcissistic, people in Los Angeles that are doing wild things right in front of our faces. And I'm like plays. This is we're or California. Yeah. Exports mothers cities. I'm ready for that to the new. I'm not Marla Pont go. And then, you know, Camille, Auster house, which is obviously devastating I don't like meal, but I don't want her to lose her, but I mean. Worse things happen to know. Of course, Michael. Of course. Oh my God like lake Camille, losing her houses right around saving the Doug. Your. Oh my God. I love your coming out. So. On the side. Like you're not even like whatever you're like, hey, we gotta get. I'm doing a fundraiser support the dog meat industry. Really, really taking a stand. Like we should get to eat. Next time you get hungry. But I sometimes even like, is it fair bus to be doing this dogs like having them in our home stats? That's your problem. That's where you draw the line. Do they wanna win dog is at my house at treat him like a king? I know. That's what we do. But is it like the same as SeaWorld? Don't know time, probably gonna lose, I would say, followers, have any but made me some. Well, how well I am still. Hunt for dogs anyone can. I mean. Don't tell player because trying to eat the gun. Don't send her. I did just privately DMA's so she doesn't look too. Bake it up between that and the buffets you you're upset about a buffet like look rep affair to look discussing that Donald. Oh, god. Okay. Well, Blair, you have been a main? Thank you for having happy here. You really made me laugh likewise, here. Larry and a terrorist. I great person but not a good dog. Advocate. I might not be good. I know I do believe you'd be thank you so much, Blair beacon. Do you have an Instagram you'd like to tell everybody? Sure. Ed's. You wanna look one look at my profile picture, little and private. So you can live with. Telling. Okay. No. Even to me, you're not even giving it to me. I just Rosie CB can three and beacon is all ease o b can. Yeah. Also. Yeah. Feel free. To ask me. And I'd like to think Casey for her wonderful message, just congratulations to Fletcher and Kathleen on their new baby, I'd also like to give a special shout birthday shout out. It's a little belated, but happy birthday to JoAnn. 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The Royal Visit To Bluesky

Bedtime Stories With Nennis And Douglas

14:21 min | 8 months ago

The Royal Visit To Bluesky

"Nights story it's cold. Royal visit to blue sky by nannies prints barbie and princess. I can live in marble globe palace right in the center of marble glow the capital city of the skylines. They had both lived in the palace since they were children and it had been the perfect place to grow up with hundreds of rooms to explore and huge kitchens and sellers and garden as big as a park but now they were all grown up. They found they didn't play at all that men's they realized one breakfast time as the rain ripple down the windows that they were bald. It's had only been a few weeks. Since fed hosted their bowl when ever we want from the skylines and everyone from holes mal. Lana poll had filled the palace with laughed song. The prince and princess missed having so many people around and didn't have any royal engagements to distract them. I've got a splendid idea. Said prince bondar beat. His sister made so many friends amongst the children at blue sky school. Why don't we pop down there today and pay them a visit visit. The school said princess agatha chewing royally on some toast. I suppose we should an hour later. Just as the first classes of the day was starting a blue sky. School large carriage pulled by four white horses pulled up at the gates for all his office. The headmaster mr plum tie coughed on his coffee. Spitting som- down his shirt and stood up abruptly. He ran down the corridor and open the front door to the school. Just as the prince and princess were about to ring the bell. Your highness is say the plum tie good morning hit moustafa state princess my and i good morning say prince barnaby. My brother and i continued. Princess agnetha decided over brick full-scale that we might come down to the school offered in. Oh right said the headmaster. I say it's just that every one will be in class l. How classy said the prints and we can see offer ends state. Princess state missed a plum. Tie you just to wait here for two minutes. I think i might have an idea. Well two minutes later. The headmaster returned with scarlet and cyrano. Oh you'll nice says sates scarlet happily scholar sitting there said the prince and princess happily so partic- again. I said the headmaster singing as you will know each other. Maybe scarlet and cyrano here could give you a talk of the whole school areas. Please say print barnaby and so scarlett and cyrano that surprise guests to the art room and the gym and the main whole but after a while scarlet said prince and princess if you really want to see us score and we want to see free one again. Why not just. Joey nina classes with a day. What be missed a kirti. Uppal princess excitedly absolutely top show said the prince and so quick. Walk down the corridor. Later scarlet and cyrano led two royals back into back classroom where their teacher. Mr wiggins was teaching geography miss. The weekends looked on nervously. Has scarlet found the princeton princess. Too little seats. They joined the other children. One of the three large round tables high state mr wiggins where learning today about the coast. So easy question. Who knows the name of the c- the we here in marble glow live next to per bonnet hand. Shot up in the air. S your highness. Say mr wiggins is it though wet she say the prince no shake mr wiggins princess agatha put her hand up usually it ver tremendous fee. Scarlet looked at the two royals lutely amazed scholar. That mr weakens perhaps you might know the albanian see said scarlet said mr wiggins scholar and the prince unprinted applauded scarlet wildly out that the prince and princess didn't really know anything about geography but the second lesson of the day was off and so the whole class and their two special visitors walked happily to the art room has every student in the class. Got out there. Projects carefully continued work on their paintings of sea. Life perintis bonnet. He started painting the table until fair. No gave him some paper and princess managed to cover her with thorough much glue and glitter that. It looked like she was wearing gloves. Abe looks like i'm wearing gloves now. You're say she commented happily to skull. It thankfully all the ought came. The i took a break of the day and cyrano led the prince and princess out into the play ground. Here they were in their element dashing around pretending to be aeroplanes and all with death rennes. They hadn't seen since the ball often break came maths which didn't go so well but that was at least followed by lunch. Scott wondered what her prince and princess would make veg shoes day male of fish fingers and two baked beans prince barnaby at his plate after he had walked back from the counter and dubiously sliced the fish finger. Spread some beans on top of the folk full and lifted it to his mouth. Ever one watched even that head. Mazda watch the prince chewed thoughtfully swallowed his first mouthful and then got up and ran into the kitchens where the cooks spun round in surprise. I'd among the recipe he declared i do. And you tell me the recipe to this stall dish. Well the often at noon classes did go without too much trouble. The prince and princess doing absolute best in science and history where they did at least remember the names of their grandparents and at the very end of the day. Mr wiggins told everyone homework to write one hundred words on their favorite facing the beach while night. Prince barnaby and princess agatha sort in the royal library of mabul globe polish with stocks of paper and by candle. Light attempted to complete their homework by seven o'clock in the morning wayne. Most other people were waking up. They both smiled to each other. Exosed done may step plum tie the head. Mazda was astonished when later that morning messenger from the palace at the school gates with two scrolls tied in golden thread addressed to mr wiggins in their classroom. Mr weekends opened the scrolls and the rest of the pupils gathered around to look instead of writing a hundred words each about their favorite thing. The beach both. The prince and princess had drawn some shelves and some sand castles and the sea. And maybe that was a deck chair and then we tend words like fun and sunny over the top of the drawings. One hundred times messenger from the palace coughed politely. The homework needed to be returned with them. Marks mr wiggins looked worried. All i'm i'm not sure i know how to market. He said but scarlett smiled. If you'd let me. Mr wiggins i took is big green marker pen and wrote very interesting work on each of the scrolls and returned them the messenger. Wow say scott. Mr a wiccans. They have to be good at something then they sweet night. You can read along with douglas. Douglas don't call gone.

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How One Company Is Targeting a Growing Opportunity in Women's Reproductive Health

The Bio Report

18:01 min | 2 years ago

How One Company Is Targeting a Growing Opportunity in Women's Reproductive Health

"Leading a startup team whether delivering a sugar rush stocking coffee or getting a regular delivery of snacks. Office Depot has solutions that fit every startup culture from getting those first business cards and stationery to ordering fleece pullovers with your new logo to learn. How Office Depot and the California technology council. Have partnered to bring you savings on all of these startup essentials and more go to California technology dot org forward slash member benefits. I'm Daniel Levin. And this is the bio report. Problems of women's reproductive health represents a growing worldwide concern, but remains an area of unmet medical needs. Abs Eva is advancing. A late stage clinical pipeline with development programs focused on treating enemy SIS uterine fibroids, Preterm labor and improving IVF outcomes we spoke to Ernest LeMay CEO of ABS Eva about the issue of women's reproductive health. The company's lead therapies in development and the plan for commercializing its products. Thank you. Sure. Thank you. Your medicines to reproductive health. Focus on women's reproductive, health and pregnancy, what's the opportunity. To answer to question. The first one is that I am an OBGYN kind of coaches by training, and therefore it's deputy give for we have four only time so Medica interest, and there will be convertible to bring in Asian and sick on twenty because. Large industries companies have really left district of women has for most of them, and is usually woman currently are obviously focusing on their education. Studies versity care, and then when they reach their dirties facing a lot of condition which. Impairing their quality of life for professional aptitude or even emotional of digit, we infertility, and we see that as a growing problem in our society. There has been some concern that from a global perspective that women's reproductive ignored. How has the pharmaceutical industry done by and large addressing issues of women's reproductive health? Indeed, the industry as a left on Bendon. You know, Asian in women's health as a time where? Keep have speaking so often and rightly about women's ride women's professional achievement and woman, proficient virginity, and this left eye cream left a space west more companies like ABC's has your pitch to really do innovate and bring a play treatments. After successfully building and selling prayed, them reproductive medicines company, you sold for five hundred million dollars. What did you learn from that experience that's resulted in anything you're doing differently with ops? Eva. Yes. I just picked after working for ten years dodge company, which was focused on infertility. So I really learned job on both on initial video to Windsor Cyrano. And then with what different would be that. We have a larger pipeline ABC's. I compared to program I think pregnant success was really based on a single drug, which by the way, it was successful. But it was more Hysky. We have here in Obsewrver three drugs Tenneco stage of development, two of them being infused three and one of them having already successfully complete a phase three. So I think the lessons was certainly a Jew a balance to his inevitable for you to sit on since I was probably too. So even more effective in civic than people working to team, and I built on my experience to recruit the right people's among the right people, you've got a CMO who are part of the program team what kind of advantages that to have a team that's worked together before and been successful at renting a product through develop. Approval. I think this is important because. People see when you'll recruits somebody who have one chance of three coaching to run best and one of three to get the right person. What those three to an outstanding person. So I think that beyond technical skills, you need to have the personal security to work with you went to have the same culture way to work, and therefore having seen people with home we were in well and efficiently was of usually an advantage for Seaver. One lead talk about reproductive health. What's the range of conditions that includes? Yes. These are wrench condition which are affecting women frequently. I mean, we have talking about infertility ten thousand of the vision we're talking about and Dimitrios ten percent of the population fiber elites are Solaar proportion of patient above forty and Preterm labor again eight to ten percent of the vision. So they are condition which are not life threatening. But I really pitting quantitive live and before of woman in to peel between puberty and menopause where the the most professionally active. You mentioned infertility ten percent of the population. My impression is that. This has become an increasing problem from global health perspective is infertility worsening understanding of what's driving that. Yes. I think you're very, right. The main issue is the fact that woman dealy h of first pregnancy thirty years ago, the mean age of first pregnancy was twenty two years old. No in not cities is public thirty two years old and the woman fifty to decline at the age of Turkey and actually do thirty seven. So we are facing a society issue. It's not medical issue as the sense, that's more disease leading to did it just aside that issue bringing of life where you have a higher probability of injecting. And that's true worldwide. We see that US. We see that Europe. We see that in China. Now, we see that in Japan. So yes, the is and has to be addressed of medical you went bust. Your we'd product is no Lhasa, which is designed to improve the success of IBM procedures. What is in the Las? What is in the Las? Yes. So known as Benny, San and honest of. The oxytocin receptor. So he's blocking a sceptre for those in which is a natural or driving uterus contraction and juicing blood flow into by enterprising that we make the uterus more relaxed quiescent better fusion, and that's important to help the embryo to implant, no less, you banish, San minister, only four hours Pyo to embryo trencher. And what we have these reports was positive history trial where we so that giving Lassie ban compared to placebo for hours before transfer was improving to chance of going home was a baby by thirty five. And what's the when might use seek regulatory approval? The best full. What's that? We are planning to submit an Indian Europe by end of next year. And we are going to be talking to the to agree and life. I wish them to pass for ones any sense. Yes. Definitively currently the market for Infinity drugs. Put it into is. Yes. Exceed two billion. We have not yet screws discussed the price of no Lhasa ban, pending confirmation of if you get C N registration. But we have to here is two things. I is that we are going to do a number of IBM cycling choir to go home with the baby and the navy citing this cost between twelve and twenty thousand US daughter to CDC standing us that. Chew fifty person of I've psycho in United States where there's an embryo transfer placement of two or more NPL's is perform to increase chance of success, but are to pry a price to pay for that multiple ampule transfer high rid of twins pregnancy between twenty and forty and that's the adverse impact payments something every night you and so forth and he's extremely expensive. We sell the truck we can achieve with single transfer. What can be achieved with w transfer results? Having this case of a multiple pregnancy at least fit us from twenty two three and therefore internal somac-. We couldn't make it's not only hit us in of the sytem, but are so promoting single transfer and voting. He usually expenses related to pregnancy and Preterm delivery a second product you're working on dresses endometriosis Dmitriy since. Yes. It's a very common condition which often is not very well known in the. The the medium is, you know, layer of the and this in layers crew every ounce and the woman is pregnant this and the museum is set, and that's ration-. Now ten percent of the population. For reason, we just not very clear and the Michiel says migrate to the abdomen Kevi and implant on the very too busy. Tony you choose. And that means that every month during ministration this and the medium lesion believed within jabbed Amon, and that's too inflammatory reaction. Teen addition and in fifty so the main objective for treating is first street. Very a pain, very painful situation where women have been during menstruation being out ministration painting sexual intercourse, and therefore, I really beg nickel. You've life beyond young. Really debilitating pain. If I sought the interested to. How is it treated today? Gillen's lead the first line to peace. What record what capacities? So we'll see Bill. Why it's because it's reducing the menstrual flow. And therefore, it's about alleviating the pain related to this menstrual flow in the cavity. What we know is that at least fifty the woman on the Pali control by who CPO then you have to surgery, but surgery invasive and to century does not p anti Currence high rate of recurrence after fash-. And then you have to turt- option today, which is to give the drug like loop on where it's a drug which is using plus cancer, for example, which is forty SU pressing ovarian activities like the minerals on staters effective. But it takes some time to be affective. And it's a citrus older side effect of those minerals condition between hot precious. Let's deal bullets and so forth. The beauty of this new class of generation tag on. This is that you can talk to each told you. We saw going to level of depression, which has all these drawbacks in term of menopause of status and east concept of factly soup, resting has been nicely confirm and in July with report or face to p where we see that those which is boxers replacing dial we have very that was more than two thirds of patient spending internal pain addiction, not paying high do Shen administration. But that's history Shen and during six hundred. What's the? Nine year into Mitri drunk. Yes. So we had they've roping in in the end of materials. So in the fiber indication where the problem is more heavy mature rating, and we are in phase three Huntley Forty-five rates ways, objective report to the primary and point by end of two dozen nineteen centimeters recently completed fish to be and we are currently in -tracting with the to see the best full what knowing obviously that we will have to conduct a couple of fish retrial starting early next year. The business model for. Spec to bring these drugs to market on your own or will you be thinking partners or even potential buyers? You did with pregnant. Yes. It's a very good question. I think the beauty of our bought forty in up. Steve I if that both option are open, so far we kept older rights onto on on the on the company products because we didn't want to have initial agreement which is not needed. We'll property finance. And would that go value, which we think is not sufficient stage. Now, can we build a commercial station? Well, no less than the IV product is going to be the first to the market. And but you interesting that we have no competition. We don't change the healthcare. And we are dressing a limited number of units like five hundred units, for example in the United States, and maybe eight to nine hundred year that means we could build a sense for which is the lean for commercializing by our sound. However twits. To that. I we are looking for partnership in Asia and two is true. That when index we've come to the market another question because that resting much larger number. So step by step. We are preparing for commercialization of Lassie ban. And we will keep the option open for each grew that later on when I go. This would be close. Thanks so much for your time today. Thanks through. Thanks for listening. The buyer report is a production of the Levin media group. Automatically downloaded this podcast each week. Subscribe to our RSS through I or other podcasts manager, join our mailing. 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Our Unicorn Diaries Episode 91  Valentines With Mr. Fox Pt 2

Our Unicorn Diaries

35:44 min | 2 weeks ago

Our Unicorn Diaries Episode 91 Valentines With Mr. Fox Pt 2

"Welcome to our unicorn. Diaries discussed sexual encounter other. This podcast is strictly for entertainment purposes mature audiences between the the show. Welcome to utica. Daughter is name is anthony. And i'm marie. Hi guys how are you so we could very sexy should up a week so far has been pretty lame fourth of july holiday weekend so his family around whether or not here at the moment. Yeah so we kind of forgot. We ate a date. Yeah and we should be having a date right now. We should but wherever these things happen. Yeah or don't have for that will happen. I know but we love our family. Yes we do just redo apparently baby would you like to a. We had the best view ever. Would you like to be what it was. Yeah it was from this really sexy. Military man is shut up. He thanked us for our podcast because it helped him out through his deployment. So i thought that was the best review important us. Some he did he did. It was like his porn. He said i know thanking in person. Soon i hope so you crazy sexy motha you talking to me now. He knows what. I'm talking to you and now a word from our sponsors honey. I'm home. I've got some great news conjured up a way to add some spice into our marriage. I thought i said no more witchcraft. You remember what happened. Last time you'll be happy to hear that. I use all play around dot net not witchcraft. And i think found a couple that could put us both other spouse coming. Are you down we need. Pg welcome back donning yes. My love is gone. Would you like to share with the listeners. Today to share the rest of. It's it's something i threw together. It's called marie. Perfect peach isn't it. Stop it but it's about one and a half to two cups of fruit impeach. Choose you might wanna let them saw Three ounces of bourbon and simple syrup to taste and you spend after all the ingredients into a blender blended until smooth or and enjoy goddess. Ladies and gentlemen. Well i decided to drop beautiful. They frozen strawberry in the middle and it's looks mama's alcoho- custard jamat now it very delicious. Neither it's it's not s speak as a smoothie but it tastes like so i enjoy. I should have made lovely. Here's darla now we love our military well. We own to give you two now of our valentine's evening with the fantastic mr fox. We invite him over for dinner but first of all we fell into the bedroom. And i think the last we we last week was. You're kind of hanging off the bed. Sixty nine and suck his cock longest ever alkmaar. I'll put to dover on. Twitter is it. I don't look at our twitter page control. I wanna see again. Jesus the summit stuck inside. You don't wanna look so So you dismount. The two of us. I went to go to the bathroom in do a little costume change and i left boys to to play on their own. You told us to easy. Yes you boys. Play wobble way. Yes so mr fox is laying on the bed still and standing up so he lays back on the edge of the bed and i just cock Even ima sloppy one. Look i'm tell you china's the all my shit still all my shit look so good when you do is good during do good at you. I know you're always gagging throat yet. Sold time trying to suck de kock a try so as on doesn't go down. Mr fox is reach everyone stars. Jackie me off bad. Feels very good and i start a slow right down. Who so. i'm sucking really slowly louis. Up and down the shaft keep looking over one eye making eye contact them not make him uncomfortable at so i- stunned up bit kind just to myself and he puts me closer. He starts going down to me. He kind of calls round starts going down me and grabbed the back of his head. And i'd stand there pumping like talking to his mouth still rank in same time. Okay is very sexy. Then back know you wireless well one of the you guys some time alone. Valentine's yeah def you to it. So i start going down on him again and mr fox kind of pushed me towards him. We start kissing the both of us rank in each of the same time kissing and wang was appointed to kissing wake. Apparently so i go back down on him. And i start can use cop off the head of my mouth another one. You'll move you back in. Yeah cooked in. And she's the court. Yeah i just kind of made a comment about what i've been missing and i climbed on a bed and i'm straddling mr fox and i began rubbing his body and Antony lays next to him and of course they start kissing again. You guys are so adorable. Buta straddling him wang kim. Yeah just talking about remember. It was now. But i don't know we were talking about a lot of shit. I was mainly talking. Shit you lead. Lean down start kissing him then he starts spanking new. Likes my ass. Who doesn't and i don't know about that but he likes it. He's he's in it in shaking it in jail spanking it kissing each other We'll see now. Dan i every now and then i lean over and start sucking on while i'm stroking the click all lovely. I love that levy and while you you're sucking me. Fox grabs a condom slides on and yeah and i climbed one and you guys were as star kissing a a kind of leaning on his shoulder watching his cock pump in and out of you right. Then he leans turns his head and for lay forehead to forehead Kinda thing is eating out his twist around meet in the middle on cheap. Why you guys were kissing. I just continue to suck your car between riding on an foxy and yeah. It was a lot of fun and your tennis. How hot we look together. It's again that your talking. We had this conversation yesterday. That right out of the. It'd be the same without you being there. I don't know it wouldn't be the same won't be as good. I don't over there. Are you know. Because maybe i need you on the end of the phone tap. That happens was talking to me like cyrano. So she's you ranking me. Yes as you still riding mr fox. And i'm just kind of rub in both your body's very it was kinda slow down was sexiest. Fuck yeah changes at a certain point. Doesn't it our dates. They may start out a little light hearted. You know what i mean that way and then it's like all right. Let's get down to business. Yes it goes from like amusing terms. I guess it goes from hip hop put too deep house so you want to join us for some deal which of course i don't object to that not so i grabbed the poppers. Of course she do. All three was hit. The poppers chronicle and i pushed into your las while he's in your pussy and we're talking and fucking slowly and kissing. Sometimes you lean back and kiss me then. You're leaning forward and kissing him sometimes. I'll eat forward to kiss kissy that. All the time we are in i mean to your face is stupid really really deep into you. Oh i know. I know yeah and you can always tell because i get really loud. You know the deeper you go to my ass. And i'm kind of pushing you down onto his caucus. Well yeah. i'm really getting. Yeah but hard. Slow in hard you shiny and i love it when it's like that like see yourself in it. Well you start coming. Of course in loudon coaches. I'm kind of i'm doing the pace chronic. I'm behind right kinda perception into deeper and you came again to back to back. So yes you're yelling at this point. Yeah i wanted it hard again. Yeah slow hop you wanted allen. Yeah and thank you. Oh oh you guys you kinda fold into him. And he's holding you. Face is buried in his little neck. And yeah and and i don't know it just it down again felt it felt right. It did and it was. It was almost it was like making love. It was it really was. We're pretty loud though aren't we. I mean he was true. yeah. I like him. I like when he's getting excited. I like listening. It's it's hot. i enjoy it a lot. I really do so you you kinda turn your head you to start kissing and looks. It looks so hot and mr fox reaches around. You grabs me and starts putting me into you. Deeper speed basic and i mean it's so good you just look so good. I'm seeing you guys kiss and not to mention your deeper. My ass have helped a little pose a hitting each other on my eyes got too much meat. I knew it was kind of as was coming off. Felt back and that pushes me deeper prince you and his hobby and i feel ask you into other come out at that point you say this but at this point it was the best dp because it went on for so long and we never any of us fell out now. We didn't come. I i know it was this like i wasn't expecting you to come. I wasn't that soon even though we were into it for what. I don't know how long at this point he's already come at this point as well so he came thirty i think he he came in use fucking year. He came here. Yeah yeah well in his condom in you. So i put out and you see my caucus covered income as really wet your ass leaking avirgan and you call me over and start soaking clean covered. It here can't stand up. I can i gotta who own yom god that was so i laid back on the set t and i'm watching you and mr fox make out she so you eventually come off of him and his bulls are discovered in my come. I know and i still mega hard. So i just went down and started cleaning his balls with my time. It was so it was yummy. It was so fucking hot. I love it i do. I mean it's just really. I don't really consider it nasty. But i know some people do. What do they know. Wait it but that's kind of turn on about it. That if they saw this they think who have such a dirty girl can husbands come off leverage because oh my god what would they say. That's kind of it. i guess too. Yeah and it just. It just looks so good. I just had to do it. It's just like Yummy new mean chins allwed. Yeah because i was just like going into town on him He has lovely caused you. You lay back down to take a break and we just laying on the bed together. I just start wanking. He hasn't come again so we still make a hard. You're you're you're you're stroke in his we're talking and then you eventually you start kissing your way down to his car and then you start sucking him off again. You come over. And you start watching the show. And i'm fingering alvarez. I do it so you make an out with him and your turn. That much you suck is con- yeah took my nipples see you do. I don't necessarily like here. He's stuck his co. Because you because you gag on it. I just got him better. Yeah you are. But that's sound like us lose your lunch. I hate that is like oh where he likes it. He loves that some other guys that love that too but yeah i camps like oh no he's gonna blow oh no but So while i'm telling him. All these things i i reached down and on grabbing your hair and my direct giving you directions in moving you around by your hair. You know. Moving it to the left. You know i'm just. I'm just controlling you with your ear. Basically and yet. I'm telling you you know licked shaft you know. I want you to feel the bumps in the veins. fuck it. Yeah come on. And and i keep asking him how it feels and how teas and yeah. It was really sexy to the back of my head. Four it's so hot. I think about it. You know it's just like i don't. I never really considered myself the dirty talking type. Dirty talk is yes. Lustful talk is the difference. I f suck suck right. You don't do that you like yeah baby. Look so nice as fair. Yes okay chef baby. It's kind of more loving now. Really it wouldn't be dislike guests suck. Yeah it won't be as hot up although my favorite busted. I it eat saying that to see that women to say that say that. Oh my gosh so you end up coming down and helping me. Oh yeah i could let you have all the fun. Take time his bowls you on his head can come out of me. We kiss over it. Yeah it was. It was lovely. We allow during teamwork makes clean work. Baby yeah he's moaning and gasping. They used star getting hard again And i start stroking you as we continue sucking mr fox. Very hardly so-called museums is yes. But you don't get hard when you're getting fucked there now. I don't know what is the thing it is a thin glossy watched videos and guys get fucked art. Allow the mar but fifty percent aunt really. I guess i'm fifty percent. I guess because i'm not really touching myself at that point you. I'm not concentrating on my dick now. I don't know what that i don't know. I just wonder if that would really make a difference. I don't i don't think you playing with it will make a difference to try. Yeah but you can't concentrate on anything. Get fucked getting fucked. I come so quickly of the prostate orgasm takes on the. That's all in just takes everything. These exhausted i now. I know i'm sorry. Didn't mean go off on a tangent about you. Not being hard. Getting fucked backed mr fox. The you're telling him that you wanted to come in your mouth. I did say that and your concern the head again. And i just moved down a bit and start talking. If he's going to come. I wanna i wanna be able to feel his pump in india mouth. That was that was thinking of it because it was come up with me. And i'll just want to experience everything Okay okay and you can tell. You is getting close. Yeah yeah. I like getting. Close your moaning louder. I'm kind of come. I'm watching you dear. My face is really sloppy realize so he grabbed grabs you cock and he starts. He grabs. your colleague grabbed your cock. I don't have a cognitive at that point adds his own. Then you turn that you want oldies come your opinion math and just ahead of his coke is in your lips and needs to strengthen. It's like that sound like that. I read blast fucking. I know i love for saw little And then i started kissing you sharing very hard. He's talkies leaning against our face. I i she's coming to my mouth. I push back now with my gosh. Hey when it's good it's good anything but you know what what we kind of have to leave it there. We go too far a good place to end. Okay be needs time to recover an all right all right. I guess same time same journal next week. Boys girls of this show concluded par. Think i don't know we still got the morning remember. Oh i remember in the morning. Okay i remember. This is before dinner. Yes i know guys we. We're not gonna take dinner. It was amazing. It was fucking delicious. But yeah. I enjoyed that immensely. I think we should always have date valentine's day and every day. I'll be happy every day. You tired too okay. Anyway that note. Guess what timing is darling. Bourbon juice is time for the dirty word of the day. It's an easy one. The dirty word of the day is titanic. Titanic think you know you know what this joke about. A titanic and six goes well. Let's not let's not talk about essex. Just lived in essex six i can talk about. Essex goes down between the titanic goes. Only twelve hundred. People went down on the titanic. But that's not talking. So could you use a sales but anyway now it's easy to titanic right so so much do we going down. Yes with ice cubes amount now. That'd be a good one but that's not what it is. That is very close. You're going down on someone at. It's that good. He loses control and jobs to his no drops. it now seems to grow. It's a lot easier than the blows comes in now alive. He's going down in you. You're going down on him more about the girl than it is about him. You're going down on him. And i'm gonna put you out of the. It's really easy that if you know the i'm just saying because the titanic is basically a girl that goes down the first time out don t. I d like about her she can. I guess i could be considered roy. If you have any questions concerns or confessions feel free to reach out to us at six. Four six three seven four eight seven five five not picking up. We know we know a extra content and to hear the hold of this audio clip. It's now but to hear everything. Gutu a patriot dot com for slash unicorn. Diaries this one is up that yet. It'd be a couple of months away but it's to be very baby. You eaten know that stroh true very what's the show rules strawberries right there. you say. Listen to show the gumy's you sure three shows you ask is off here. I'm sorry guys. i'm sorry. We do have a role state is see us. Garnish see politics. No fuck you vernon avenue. I eat it sea food in front of it. Yeah well do you bags no. We're leaving no go anywhere. You we stay in the country to california to palm springs. Now loads of clothes found a ton of them. Okay found this place. It's like a lifestyle resort. Nice kind of a boutique. Equal place looks kind of small all right but Definitely wanna go there. It's called a seamount ranch load awards. Okay it's always a time to oppose willing close. Everybody just naked time. Looks like now. Okay so you there. There are no restrictions as far as like our. So i was there was pictures of people. Get blown by the pool in the series serious. You didn't show me any of that. Go spa sauna could stuff. Yeah okay. that's a nice that you know 'cause a lotta times you're only Restricted to like the pool area. Or you know or at the party. The you know the night the party at night. The from era simple shit like that. So that's pretty cool. I do like that looks very nice. So and the rooms pretty cool to get to expensive so much around two or three hundred. But that's not too bad so to all our friends in california palm springs. Yes thank you for listening. We love you and appreciate you go visit these places. They need your help. Offer the covert and listen to you. What do you think we should support these businesses. Yes absolutely you get your us to their club. Close up again that bulls. Oh this emmy. We're gonna we're gonna go to our favorite club up yet. 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Project Runway

Pop Culture Happy Hour

17:08 min | 1 year ago

Project Runway

"When project runway launched in two thousand four competitive reality shows or in their infancy. Now they're in their mature pantsuit years but project runway now in its eighteenth season rolls on the show moved from Bravo to lifetime last season it returned to Bravo with a new cast host. Heidi Klum and mentor. Tim Gunn have been replaced by carly close and season. Four winner Christian Syrian but the sewing machines. Continue Buzz and it's still hard to make address in a day. I'm Stephen Thompson and I'm Linda Holmes we're talking about project runway today on pop culture happy hour from NPR. Don't go away this message comes from. Npr sponsor. Indeed when it comes to hiring you need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast with indeed DOT COM. You can post a job in minutes. Set up screener questions then zero in on qualified candidates using an intuitive online dashboard. And when you need to hire fast accelerate your results with sponsored jobs new users can try for free at indeed dot com slash happy hour terms conditions and quality standards apply offer valid through March. Thirty First Twenty Twenty. Welcome back. He just met. Npr Music Stephen Thompson. Also with us as Glenn Walden of the. Npr Arts Does K. Glenn and in our Fourth Chair today. We're always delighted to have with us. Writer cat hi cat. Hey it's so good to have you as always. I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU. Glenn and I want to ask you a question. We talked a little about old runway versus new runway. How do you feel about new runway? I am very much down with new runway because this show needed an infusion of something and the kind of something had gone with his last two seasons. I think toward the end of the classroom gun era. We were getting like challenges and our friends at Arby's Lake Bruce Beach. Yeah it was just like what's going on the Red Robin It's like okay. We're missing something here. But it's a formula and you. You need the comfort of that formula. You just need to mix it up jumping simple as a new work room can kind of make me feel like oh. I I I wanna see where this is going and Christian Cyrano in the role of the mentor. He seems maybe it's newness. He seems like a better mentor. More specific mentor. Somebody who's not gonNA just say make he's going to. He's more critical. He's more he'll he's more willing to put The designers feet to the and that's just more interesting so I'm I'm in for How about you. What do you think of new runway? So I basically used to watch project runway years ago and I would also watch the spin off models of the runway. I started watching again because I saw on twitter. That this contestant tyler was sorta making the rounds because of a snarky response that he gave to carly close. He made a really terrible dress and she said that she would never wear that or someone said that she would never wear that and he goes not even to dinner at the Kushner's Oh yeah. She said she was looking at a piece of fashion. And she said I wouldn't wear this and he said not even to dinner at the Kushner's has carly classes married to jared Kushner's brother so she is connected to the the Kushner by marriage marriage marriage the trumps and all that stuff so when I saw this clip on twitter cackled and then I think I need to watch this new season to see what's different and having this be my entree back into project runway because I used to watch and I couldn't really remember what was so different but I just knew that I actually really missed gloom and Tim Gunn and I just missed their dynamic but then I felt that the show itself fell a little tired to me. In comparison to the new spate of fashion reality shows like next fashion on Netflix. Which I absolutely love. There's just something so dynamic And I don't know if it's fair to kind of compare these two shows but that was kind of the perspective I was coming from. Yeah I definitely do want to see the new show that Heidi and Tim are doing with Amazon. Making the cut making the cut. 'cause I think the business aspect that they're trying to push into the show is something I'm craving from this. I it's not a reboot right but it's a different show complete well and I think you know our producer Jessica Reedy was talking about. How on the new Amazon show? The big thing is going to be like being able to sell your clothes on Amazon and one of those central tension like one of the Central. Tensions of runway has always been the difference between. Are you trying to make close? The people are going to actually by great versus. Are you trying to make like exciting close and you know? That's I think one of the things that carries over and one of the reasons I think Syria no is such a good get for them is that he has like done stuff for payless shoes and stuff like that but also like one of the most news. Making gowns of the last several years was the billy porter talks dress. And that's Christians area. No many really news-making really highly regarded high profile. Pieces of fashion have been Syria. No plus he comes from the show so he knows the experience of being on it. What do you think Thompson? Where are you on runway? Well I'm a little bit in the same boat that cat was in I watched the show pretty religiously for I would say nine or ten seasons and then really drifted away from it and so for me coming back to it. I was actually surprised. Given how much turnover there has been on the judging panel. It's basically just Nina Garcia. Who remains from you know g project runway? I was amazed at how incredibly familiar it felt and I mean that in a good way this is a show I'm not necessarily watching for like groundbreaking reality-tv making I'm there for for the rhythms. I'm there for the fact that really for about the first eighty five percent of each episode. You could watch on double speed and really not miss a whole lot of anything. And then they get the music and the runway starts and then you're like oh wait. I have to look up at the screen. And that's where you study it closely and you try to apply your in my case incredibly laughably limited understanding a knowledge of what looks good and doesn't and then you have the judging and the elimination and so for me like I like how familiar it still feels. I think carly kloss is a perfectly fine standing for Heidi Klum. I think Christian Cyrano as you mentioned Glenn brings something new to that Tim guniness. He has a mixture of more willingness to be critical and the empathy of having gone through the process of of doing this show and having this be a launching pad for him he is he gives you a sense of what these designers are aspiring to career wise and can give them advice accordingly. I like for the most part. The new judging panel I think Brandon Maxwell is a perfectly good stand in for say Michael Kors as far as bitchy less less less trying to get off a good burn and a little feels a little bit more natural in his criticism but still gets to say things like it. Looks like a high fashion diaper and it really did you knew immediately which outfit was. GonNa get that tag that they had promised he was going to say. So I'm I'm in. I like it. It is still feeding what I liked about the show in the beginning but it does. It feels refreshed without feeling like something other than itself. Yeah I think for me. The funny thing is this is a show. I mean I wanNA give tons of credit to tim gone and Heidi Klum. Some of it is just. There's only so many not can hips and I think it's just doing something different. I think Tim Gunn was wonderful. At being Tim Gone. He had that sort of avuncular supportive professorial approach which. I absolutely loved watching but Syria. No To me the thing that. I really love about his approach. It's true he's more willing to be critical but his entire tone has more of this. Like I want you to succeed in. You're killing me. Which is fine. And he'll say you're killing me. He'll say like oh. You're killing me with all this tool like. I just I and he also I love the fact that he loves it when he tells them not to do something they do it anyway and then they get criticized for it. They'll sometimes show him in the writings being like I told them. I love the fact that he has that little bit of of kind of spiciness delivery and my transformation on Syria. No like I saw him as a as a contestant when he was in fairness very very young season four I really found kind of Bradey and annoying but over time he has become so like such a guy that I admire so much like not just because of this but also because he's really embraced working with women particularly not exclusively women but women on red carpets. Who are you know? Many different ages and body types. And you know he really has put his money where his mouth is in terms of of that kind of inclusivity which. I appreciate a lot. Yeah and I do. WanNa give a shout to that judging panel though because I like Stephen I really like Brennan Maxwell I liked that kind of look. Let me tell you the truth which has a little bit less zing to it but a little bit more kind of again humane. I'm trying to help. I think Nina Garcia has held up incredibly well as a judge on the show. I just heard door still adore her. I think she's gotten if anything better and better at being a judge on this show. Also Elaine Walter off. She's the woman who kind of held overhaul teen vogue into its current kind of really cool. Interesting political incarnation. I'll tell you what they've got. They've got a lineup of judges that manages to be supportive and enthusiastic without becoming Paula Abdul from early. They're not like Saccharin. It doesn't feel like I just personally love you. And that's what it's about what they managed to be supportive nevertheless good cat. How are you feeling about the people on this on this season? Oh my gosh. I love seeing the drama of so. There's this woman named Victoria who just keeps winning over and over and over again and everybody else hates her just because she's successful but also she has some shade that she just subtly throws in and doesn't even seem like she's aware of it but the judges are quote unquote obsessed with her according to the other contestants and I just love seeing this dynamic play out because I think it's really fun reality. Tv they're just so many big personalities on the show And I really just drawn to those tensions especially also Sergio who everybody has a Sergio in their life with somebody who loves to talk about how you perform their performance perhaps and the formative progressiveness used as a shield against any says good dynamic where Christians area no is trying to give him feedback early on in one of the episodes on a dress that is apparently very personal to Sergio. And Sergio refuses. And it's just it's like you want to participate in the show contestant you should be getting feedback is my opinion. But I think that it's a really good microcosm into just where we are today and so I'm really glad that they've cast this sort of person in it while they cast a big personalities as you said but they didn't seem to cast for personality disorders. They didn't seem to cast actual monsters so the people that I find myself rooting against for the people whose team I am not on our just merely self righteous or merely bratty. They're not toxic or vicious. Pretty Anti Sergio. I'm very Sergio. But I was very anti-christian Syrian. Yeah no Sergio. Remind me of my inconsistency but the thing is Christian when he was on the show as you said Linda was like twenty two or twenty. Three Sergio's thirty six and I feel like Sergio would be a lot more palatable to me if he were like twenty two Sir. You got very heavily into this thing. Cap mentioned very heavily into this thing for a particularly for a couple of episodes where everything had to have a political story. Yes and some of them were very overt right like some of them. He did address that he's sort of saying this is about what's going on at the border. He wanted have the names of several people who have died in custody at the border. I believe Embroidered into the edge of the dress but then after that like everything had to be this stands for ax. Is it me or have the attitudes of both the contestants the judges toward the models chain we seem to be getting more of the contestants on the models kinda bonding and seeing the models real people in a way that back in the early seasons You know Nina would come out and say could it turn around blues? I want to address but that was that was giving up five and now it seems to me anyway that they're more willing to let these models be people are actually contributing in some very important. I think they've been up and down about that. There have been a couple models in the past where it was. Do you remember Jeffrey? Who Won? Who had the big Mo Shadows Odor Hit a very close relationship with the model name Maryland and a lot of the stuff that she did for him was clearly really helping him. When I think I agree with you. They've done that a little more. They've started to let the models kind of have their own back story. In some cases not in every case but in some cases they and they've diversified their pool of models to where they do have some different body types you have a non binary model you get a sense that like not every model is created equal. You have to do a certain amount of tailoring depending on who you get but I appreciate it as much as they have tried to let us get to know models in the past as with things like the spinoff. Moscow's The runway. This threads the needle so to speak the most effectively. Yeah I think so and I really appreciate how in some of the challenges they consult the models of what they're comfortable with and I think that's just a very respectful way to dress. Somebody will you don't get is the the sort of Regular woman challenges that they used to have where you would listen to some designer. Go On for a half an hour about basically about how much they hate dressing fat women and to them a fat woman is any woman is not a model and I did always find those episodes just agonizing and sometimes really really kind of triggering. Yeah but it is still true that you still have a lot of designers who show their entire asses every time they are asked to dress woman who has any kind of curvature to her body at all and they'll put them in these kind of like weird unflattering like sometimes. I think there's less hostility but the inexperience often still shows. And you don't kind of get like a thing hanging on the back or something shapeless there was. There have been like some really gorgeous plus size models in the in the past who have like walked the runway in these kind of like with a sheet wrapped around you kind of get ups so I think the inexperienced shows but I'm glad they're working on it okay so before we go We have one other thing that we wanNA do Stephen Thompson. Take it away buddy. So last week on. What's making us happy? I recommended a song that I love wholeheartedly called baby baby by a singer named Yeah Shitski in prepping for that piece. I found video of him pronouncing his name. So I would be sure to get it right. And I managed to say that he is from Nigeria. When in fact he is from Kenya. I am so sorry I feel so stupid. I did all this reading and still managed to get it wrong. I cannot recommend the song or the artist highly enough. The song once again is baby baby by inskeep who is from Kenya. Listen to that song. Also check out project runway. Tell us what you think. Find US on facebook at FACEBOOK DOT COM SLASH PCH. Or tweet a PCH. That brings us to the end of our show. You can follow cat as always at catch. How thanks to all of you guys for being here. Thank you and of course. Thank you for listening to Pop Culture. Happy hour from NPR. 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'Inside the Oscars': Fashion Statements

The View

37:57 min | 3 months ago

'Inside the Oscars': Fashion Statements

"This episode of inside the oscars is presented by ziprecruiter. Coming up on this episode of inside the oscars we're not just talking about the film's because of course they inspire they inform the entertain the outfits fashion today to be more than just the designer that you're wearing but what does that designed to me. We're going to look back at some of those shows. Stopping red carpet looks from over the years. Plus i am super pumped for this forget the celebrities. I got to talk to the woman who makes all those picture-perfect red carpet moments possible. It's about outlining and taking care of the nominees throughout the entire process that when they go home at the end of the night they think that that was the oscars imagined everybody on ginger zee and we are getting closer. The date of the astor's right around the corner. And you know that means they gotta get the red carpet cleaned and ready to roll out and this time it's happening at l. A.'s famed union station. Of course that's a change of venue so we don't really know what to expect but what else will be different. The nominees will be dressed down. Maybe would they wear sweats hoodies. I dunno could they be with the on trend. Lounge wear look. We don't know. But i know that it would be fine and probably fitting the year that we've had. I had to guess though. Somebody's gonna be wearing something super great and glamorous because it's still the red carpet some fashion statements though at least in the couple of years have changed from. Just who are you wearing to. what are you saying. And my friends a norman. She's got a little something on that. Hey hey ginger. Yes so excited. To look forward to all of fashion we will see on the red carpet at the oscars this year. And here to talk about it. All with me is josie stylist extraordinaire joe. So glad that you're here to talk about everything oscars fashion the show's producers. This year called the dress code a fusion of inspirational and aspirational basically meaning. That yeah formal school. If you wanna go there but casual is really not. So what do you think when you hear the words inspirational and aspirational when you're thinking of author fashion. The red carpet is back. That's what i'm thinking. i mean. I think oscar fashion for us especially in the fashion world has always been the super bowl of like you know you have are huge award season. Starting at the beginning of the year and it's sort of really starts to ramp up and ramp up and really reach a climax at the oscars. And this is where everybody's out in full force in couture in one of kind like you're literally and even designers themselves who've made these dresses for these. Starlets do not know if these celebrities wearing it until the door opens from their car and they step out and they see it for the first time and then they can say. My dress is on the red carpet or it didn't make it and i think that's really what it's become think we're already for glitz and glamour and all of that 'voliti again. I think we want to have a little bit of fun. I'm sitting here talking to you and slap hands. But i'm done with them in two thousand nineteen. I was like you know. What would it be fun to. Just wear sweatpants all the time and now i want burn. I exactly we all wish for it. So you gotta be careful what you wish for. But that's the thing because even though you know with the oscars award season winding down to a close in some of the award shows that we've already had this year. We have seen some folks dressing down but finding a way to make it fashion. Whether it's the dior pajamas or just something more cosy. So do you think that we will just see folks just going for the high end fashion or could we see some of those more relaxed. Looks well i think we looked at award season this year to see people to rape. I mean you saw you saw that mix of casual informal but as each award event came up. Everybody got a little bit more dressed up. Do i think you're gonna see pajamas on the red carpet. No i think people are really done with that. I mean maybe you'll see the odd person having fun and maybe some guile show up something a little bit more in between casual and thrown over something. And i think that's okay too but are we going to see like jason day. 'cause hoodie no probably not i think i think it'll be fun and somewhat unexpected. But it will definitely be glamorous. After the year that twenty twenty was not only was it of course hallmarked by covid and by soleil solution and all of that but also by activism and so when we're looking ahead to the red carpet for the oscars this year. How do you think celebrities could continue to use their fashion to communicate a personal message or to say something. That's important to them. But i mean. I think you have always seen elements of this through the year. I mean i think all the way back at the very time jane. Fonda is a big proponent of this you know she's very very candid about her activism but in one thousand nine hundred eighty two. She wore a ysl tuxedo to the oscars to protest the vietnam war. And why why is. I don't know. I think the reality is that she wanted to wear something. That was really not your traditional red carpet gown to sort of say. Hey guys this is what's going on. And then you flash forward to twenty eighteen. And you've got time's up and you're asking celebrities to wear black on the carpet and that really sort of changed things too but you know in the nineties. We wore red. Ribbons signify. You know the aids epidemic. And i think now we're gonna see a lot of people really use politics to be reinterpreted in a way for the red carpet and politics today can mean so many different things and certainly yes certain justice movements social justice movements. I think all of that will be amplified in with many ways on the red carpet Because we are living in that. And i think we can ignore that in the fact that fashion today has to be more than just a designer that you're wearing but what does that designer mean. And what does the gown your way represent and one thing that we have seen come up more. And more is the idea of sustainability. And so for instance when someone chooses to re wear a look. What message do you think that they're sending because back in the day that didn't happen. It was almost like taboo but we do see it now. Oh my gosh. I think that is the biggest thing you know. I have to say my favorite remark ever i was on the red carpet at the oscars a while back and george clooney did this and i don't even think you realize that he was even actually sending a trend way back but i think he was. They were asking amal clooney about getting ready and you know getting her dressed together for the oscars and was like. I don't know thirty minutes before the show. I pulled out the tuxedo. The back of my closet. And i put it on and off. We went and in a way. He was being sort of fine and flipping and being very george and really. I think it said two things that said men didn't was held up to the same standards as women. They can just pull out an old tuxedo and be done with it and no one's ever going to criticize them and they wouldn't be. They wouldn't be judged up and down. But i think he was also saying. Hey i shot my closet. I don't have to actually go get a new tuxedo every single time. There's a red carpet and sort of off this level of excess and waste. And i think you saw that sort of casual mark now become a trend. I mean i think last year so joaquin phoenix. He said he was going to wear one. Stella mccartney tuxedo through the entire season he stuck to his word which i am obsessed with that because it was really about sustainability. He wore designer. That was about being sustainable. Who's working very very hard to make that you know part of her mantra in her designing there is a lot of excess in waste in industry and i think to have designers really sit up and pay attention to that is really great. I mean i think olivia colman also at the twenty twenty oscars was wearing stella mccartney gown that she designed for her but she use sustainable velvet. And i think it's elements of this that starting to come back into what fashion can be like. We're gonna make pretty close a. We're also going to do it with our world. You know on top of mind and even when someone is thinking about what designer who they will wear they can send a message so what did say when someone chooses to wear designer like christian cyrano on the red carpet the designer you choose also sends a message. What the designers that you do choose right now. Stand for a lot of different things. I love that. You said christian syrian. He's an incredible designer. You know he was. He came off a project runway but he has always been the one designer in this industry that has celebrated the underrepresented people who are maybe not your typical fashion plates and he's always been size inclusive and gender nor conforming and all of these things that you feel are not part of the industry. But he's made a part of the industry. So i think when you have a celebrity put on a christian syrian gown. You're literally saying you know what i advocate. What he stands for. I love that e stands for size inclusive of the ice love that he stands for. Everybody is allowed into this fashion game. And i think that i love. We're not just seeing this on the red carpet but even in the political sphere and just other places other examples of using major fashion moments to elevate a certain designer or to take a stand. Oh yeah. I've been fashion now. Taking a global stage. I mean the internet's made everything so much more accessible to us. The world is a lot smaller. Everybody is you know it's everybody as a democratic in that way we're fashion is really for the masses and michelle obama's actually the perfect example from the very beginning. She said i'm going to celebrate. You know young up and coming designers as well as established ones and she had no problem j. crew but she can make someone like jason wu who was not designer. Anyone had heard previous michelle obama a household name and i think there were so many examples of designers that from america she really celebrated and brought to the forefront and i think politics i mean i was saying earlier. Politics in the red carpet is not just of merged into one. I think you can't separate those things anymore because whatever you do and wherever you are says a lot about you and what you stand for and so heading into this year's oscars thinking ahead to the red carpet fashion advice if any would you give to this year's nominees. I want them to go for it. Just go foreign. Have fun you know. I think i think people are looking to them to to say like you know what i want a little bit escape. I want a little bit of. I think we went through a period. Where an of course. I was part of this but like we're i think celebrities could be a little bit apprehensive because they were so worried about being on the best dressed lists the worst than you know and being classified into one of those things. It's not a monica. That really goes away because it is there that night but every year. It's dug up again and i and i it sort of infamy and i think there is a lot of fear of that but i think now back fear sort of dissipated i think people have wanted to sort of say you know what i'm just gonna do it. I'm just going to have fun. I'm just going to be a little bit fearless. In the way i attack things and like one of paltrow someone that's always been like that and cheese doesn't care really where people say. I think she's always looked incredible on the carpet. So i think that sort of that sort of confidence in and sort of shots really really translates on the red carpet. Now enter joe if you can think back of all. The oscar looks ever ever ever to the beginning of oscar history. What was your favorite. Look of all time really. Oh my god. That's not fair to all all time. I mean i mean that's i mean we're talking about grace kelly in her green gown. But we're talking about audrey hepburn. i'm. I'm always obsessed with share and and barbra streisand stronger than those bob. Macky emmy talking. About digging up the looks. But showing up in sheer close out of the oscars with a headdress like headdress. To me is like wow and of course only share could pull out often. I haven't even really seen again ever. But you know i i look at like and these are classic classic oscar movements but like nicole kidman wearing that dior couture gown that was neon green and trimmed in for an embroidered. And everything on paper. That was wrong about ereck harper. Like she broke every rule and look fantastic. And of course i love julia on her valentino's so so much of course when her pink gown has been you know legendary and holly berry. I mean she when she wants. She looked stunning to Hilary swank the twice to so you know what i there is. No no because you wanted one favorite all talk. that's fair. yeah lots to look forward to on the red carpet josie. Thank you so much. It's been a pleasure as always. Oh my god thank you. Thank you so much. And i cannot wait to see all the glamour on the oscar harvest. Stay tuned put a nice look down red carpet memory lane meaningful messages behind those fashion choices and today. We'll come back right after this. It's twenty twenty one and it's finally okay to talk about mental health and deserving joy. Humans just aren't meant to keep everything inside. It really can make us sick and let me tell you from experience. Therapy is everything. So maybe you need some motivation or some tools to help you. 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And i know i only had one red carpet experience. You also have only done it once. Yeah and you know. It's always so interesting because you see these things for years on tv. But one thing. I've learned about working in tv. Is that. It's never quite the same. Those camera angles. They they go a long way to make something looking far more like grand and extravagant than it really is. Obviously it was very cool but it was different from the from the moment. I walked into my first tv station. I didn't internship. And i was like oh this is tv but this year specifically and really the last couple of years people finally are saying something with what they're wearing. It's not just who. What are you saying yes. I think that that's what's so cool about it. And obviously the red carpet is kind of the ultimate place for because there are so many people. But i think that it's it's not only there. It's also at the inauguration or so many different places where fashion take center stage and like you said it is about the message. You know what you're trying to show. What new designer are you trying to give a leg up and help get their name out there So i think that it's so fascinating all of it. Sorry i don't remember. And i should have looked. What were you wearing last year. I do not feel bad. It's funny because i had to go back and look it was twenty nine thousand nine hundred. I went and going into this. I'd never covered something like that so i was lost. I got for that event. And one thing that i do know from just being on tv is that i'm always looking for a pop of color So i ended up going with like this kind of reddish or orange strapless dress and it was nice because it wasn't too thais didn't feel like i couldn't breathe but going into it. I had no idea. I was like how over the top should i go like be under dressed. Yes and that's because i think no matter what position you are even if you're smashed between people in a press box. It's a red carpet. How big do i go. I tried on a lot of. Because i never have trouble taking chances and then getting in trouble later like i love doing that and tv news. I'm like oh you didn't like that. Oh oops. Let's go too far so i thought about doing it but then i pulled back because i started thinking about. What do i wanna say. And it was for me sustainability. And i have one brand that i always go to because i've done enough research on who. They are what they are and i think anybody on the outside my friends who are thinking. This is her. Maybe only time ever on a red carpet. That's what she wore. it was not the glam it was just. It was just simple in me. So yeah. it's so funny. Because i actually of course this morning i wake up and i'm rolling on the social media's and i saw that you posted something about sustainability and like it's not just for hippies. It's about like lights survival. Yes i loved it. That is your message because it's so important and the fact that you live that life like gender. I cannot use paper towels without being. Like what would ginger say right now. I i'm trying. I met this week. Okay so i love that. Sustainability is your message through and through but sustainability. We have to make fashionable. That's what i always say whether it is paper towel choice or i'm trying to change my front lawn away from grass and into something more sustainable. You know how the neighborhood watch goes on that one. I know best anyway. So let's get back to fashion the year that you were there. Do you remember any standout dresses. Or maybe guys to the you know the suits. Yeah okay so twenty. Nine thousand nine hundred. It was the year of j.lo's like peace. Tom for dress soon. That really stuck out. Deny guerrero's Gold look amazing. It was kind of like a line dress. I think you know i'm not. I'm not quite the fashion myself. But he was the year black panther. So i remember paying attention to her but twenty nineteen hands down. Was the year of billy porter the tuck stress because he shut down that night like soon as he showed up. That was it. That's what everyone was talking about. So if you're talking. Twenty nine thousand nine oscars fashion billy porter billy porter and people say that fashion can be a waste of time and you know all this but at the same time you do say something. So as much as. I love for sustainability. Do i wanna see the same dress every single year. You know i don't. I don't think so so. I do love that idea. And it's like when when tiffany haddish like the first big really expensive dress that she bought and she wore multiple times and it was not only to the point of sustainability but related ability. Because everyone at home it's like oh yeah like you go you wash it or get it dry cleaned and boom of course why would you only wear something one time and the rental ability is really the part that makes it all fine to me like you can say and do whatever you want as long as somebody else were last year like. I'm happy to where billy porter's tuck stress. I'd be happy to take that on. So i think that's probably maybe that's the compromise or the answer between is but the close say things multiple times for multiple people and like you said the rental clothing market is big and extremely helpful. Extremely well we know it will be different. But i know you're gonna look gorgeous. So what are you wearing. tell us now. And what are you saying with what your wearing well. At least what. I'll say right now is that i don't know i don't know i think part of it is what we've been talking about. I've i haven't consciously thought like. Oh what message do i want. But it's very much like you know not trying to obviously go and bring the bank for address that one time. I certainly would like to wear something. That's been warned before whether it's by ear. Not so i don't know it's so completely up mir i'm not even sure okay. We get our intentions together. It's like the beginning of a yoga class. Yes but yet. It's about fashion. Our intention will be set soon and we will see ginny. Because i know either way no matter what you wear even as the exact same thing with the same here too. You're gonna look so good. Because now i'm remembering the orange red. Donate thank you so much. Thank you ginger. I can't wait to see you in person someday soon. Take so we're going to introduce you to arguably the most important person on the red carpet. Lauren salman lauren. I hope they told you that. You're my big get for this. Podcast like this do it. I did not want a big star. I did not want. Because i really think for anybody who loves the oscars or doesn't know anything about the oscars you're the person we wanna hear from. So tell me like if you were going into a cocktail party. How do you describe your job at the oscars. It depends on what day. Because what i love about. My job is that it changes every day but in terms of the sound bite of what i do. It's it's really about getting everyone in alignment and on the same page to make the production happen. And that's the thing i don't know if people fully understand what it takes to do hours of live tv but it's a lot and it does take a lot of planning and you've done several other types of events from two world cups lot sports. It seemed like when i was looking in your resume. Would you would you like in this to any of those sports or is an oscars red carpet a sport. All its own. I think you're right. I think it's a sport all onto its own but you know there's a start a starting line and there's a finish line and at the end of the day it really comes down to working as a team to get done. You know it's live. There's a risk to it and it's about being able to respond to what's happening and doing your best to plan but also knowing that you know the best plans might not be the best plans when when showed it comes around so just doing our best to prepare and of course making sure that everyone is safe and making sure that we have fun while doing it. So what would you say would be one of those glowing moments where maybe a surprise happened that. You didn't expect that you're like wow thank goodness that happened. I think you know nothing can can compare to. Once first oscars. I remember. I had come from event planning and my mom was an event planner. So it's like in my bones and studied event management and production in school and being on the red carpet for my first time and realizing the magnitude and the legacy and the importance of the oscars. It's not just the night that were in there. But it's history that you're creating. And i just i remember looking around and i had you know all of these stars that i had i had seen growing up or seen my favorite movies and i'm there and they're all looking at me for direction of where to go and what to do and in that moment i recognize like that that my role and our role as a team is to take care of them and to ensure that this this evening goes as as their wildest imaginations dreams have imagined and i just remember standing there being like okay. You're important you're important. You're an important your important and everyone is a vip that night and so if you go back to that memory of that first time are there certain names that were like oh my gosh. It's so. And so i have an adoration and admiration for ashley thrown. So every time. I see her. I just get a little like. Oh my gosh amazing. But i also recognize the stars are incredible and also the other nominees are credible as well because everyone that night is is a nominee and that so exciting you know the fact that their life's work is being recognized. It's an honor to be amongst them. My one time on the carpet was a couple years ago and it happened to be one of those pouring rain l. a. days and this is why i wanted to have you on the podcast because i thought you know you can forecast for so long but it does seem like the oscars has a bit of a rain problem. It has happened more than once. And i got to see the operation and and i thought who is running this that they've got the most orchestrated people with sticks pouring the things off the sides. It was really incredible. So congratulations thank you for sure. That's a team effort. And that's pivoting and responding to disaster responding to chaos and prior to getting into production. I was very interested in being in emergency medicine. And one of the things. We learned an emt training was spread. The calm not the chaos. Chaos chaos is contagious. And that's my motto. When it comes to production is to spread the com- how big is the team. I mean your team has to be huge. Just numbers wise. What i saw that day seemed at least in the dozens. I had to be one hundred. But i'm there's more end. The hundreds at aren't that you don't see on the carpet you know. Hundreds of thousands of people work the oscars. And i think that's the thing too. Is you know you you sign up for this job. And there are expectations or any production that you sign up for and you're like okay. This is what is expected of me but on show day it comes to just showing up in your best self and being fully present to respond and be like all right cool. I'm gonna be holding that dress. Oh great i'm going to be the one stitching up that person's dress that broke or whatever like just being able to respond as necessary so at this point we're best friends lawrence so you can tell me anything so i just need a little something a little dirt little like okay even if you don't name a name like what's the one moment where you clutched your heart like. Oh my gosh. i can't believe this is happening. And then what was. How did you make a solution. There's there's so many different moments throughout the years that just add up. And i'm sure you relate to this. But i feel like that. Sometimes there's a bit of production malaysia. Like the week after i sleep so soundly i look back and i'm like how did i pull off that twenty one day. Yeah how did i do that. Like what was what was the adrenaline that got through from going down to the carpet into the show. Up to the governor's ball to all of the different things that are happening simultaneously that day with seven people talking in one year twenty people talking in the other year. The most famous person you've ever seen asking for your help. You know that moment that. I was mentioning before i had shirley's thrown and jennifer lawrence and they were hugging and all these people wanted to walk by. And just stop there hugging. It's such a great moment. He's like they're hugging. They're having a great moment. They're having a sister moment. Don't interrupt it. I always think that we do a two hour. Live program every morning on good morning america and i give the biggest accolades to our director. Because i think about what she does. Daily in the number of moving parts on a regular show pre covid was wild and speaking of this year for the carpet. It is different. I mean you're not gonna. We're not gonna have the that i saw. It's not the same setup right. It's it won't be the same setup and it won't be the oscars that people you know. No but i think that is also exciting. Because it's going to be different. And i think over this year if it's taught me anything as someone who has lived and breathed production for over fifteen years. This year was all about adapting. How do we change. How do we pivot. How do we innovate. And it's honestly what i think is so magical about the production community is. This is what we've been designed to do. I imagine too. It's not like we're going to see physical we're not going to see a pirelli's stance around like hand sanitizer here in the middle of carpet. Are you going to be like have one of those waitressing belts and then just double fisted parral for people like how does that part work and are we going to see any of that while we're watching well two things you need to know about me because we're besties gun is. If i wear a dress. I will have the deepest pockets. Ever seen with my walkies and everything in them. But i'm notorious for wearing my knee high black boots underneath my dress that have my cell phone and my pure l. and my wife's everything ready girl scout style right underneath the no one can see it underneath the gown that i wear. But i think this year it's gonna be about safety and safety is first those pure l. stands they're going to be available but maybe not in the shot but definitely available to everyone and making sure that everyone is a safe as possible when i worked in weddings of for a very long time for almost a decade as i was getting into tv in prior to doing what. I do now as even fifteen bussing tables at weddings and big ones right. So i think there has to be some like you said event. Planning this is just happens to be the biggest wedding out there. One hundred percent. And i think you nailed the nail on the head wear i prior to production. I've done plenty of weddings. And this is just you know weddings for two hundred fifty people of your life. The most famous people and everyone and they're all the bride. Exactly everyone's the bride and anything can happen. Yeah do you try to emulate the wedding planner jennifer lopez character. That's what i think about every time to like i think about you now. Have you with a little walkie and a little. Mike and i'm like obviously that's who she plays was not an oscar film. However it's actually really funny. My my fiance and i met at a wedding. I was the wedding planner and he was the wedding singer. And so i often say you know. I'm jay leno right. Yes you're one hundred. Glad that worked out. You probably are so particular with your napkin. Perfect like cartoon. We are best friends for one. Other reason in this has nothing to do with the oscars. This year. i'm meteorologist. I love the atmosphere. I do stories for the last twenty years on climate change environment and you are huge into sustainability. Is that something that you take into. Account for every production including the oscars as much as i. Can you know my when i was in college. I studied production. And i got a second degree in conservation. Resource management by area of study was. What is it taken. What does it cost the environment for us to be entertained from a production standpoint. There's so many factors to consider so if we're able to just do one one change great if we can do another change in the next year. Great i think when it comes to sustainability overall. It's it takes time. It takes education. And i'm super proud of what the academy continues to do. And to incorporate from a sustainability standpoint You talked about forecasting. And that's what you do. And that's essentially what we as. Production people do is were professional forecasters. We don't have the clouds in the sky and we're trying to forecast future and forecast a production that hopefully will make people smile and laugh and celebrate things that they love. When they're at home. Do you have any pre show rituals like okay. I have to meditate for twenty minutes. I have to get you know. Do you have any of that now. That you've been doing this long to okay. One is the night before the red carpet. I go down with my coordinator and there's no one on the carpet and it's completely still talk down on the carpet and just look up and it's still and it's quiet and typically we're on hollywood boulevard and there's like this hum of electricity the hub of the city looking up at the sky and i've done it for the past nine years and it's the best. It's just that calm before the storm but hopefully there's no storm and that's what i do the night before and my day of ritual is again in those moments before before the excitement again now the stands are full. The fans are there. The camera setup doing their last live hit. Everyone's in position. And i walked down to make sure all the press is locked in before i tell my colleague were all locked in and ready to go and that moment where you feel the gears of production. Just lock near like here. We go and i love that moment of just walking down and doing my best to make eye contact with all of our colleagues olive are security guards all of the press. That's there to all work together. And make this this incredible show possible and i walked the end and i just go to the front of the seven repeat were ready. And if anyone on april twenty fifth sees a woman with black boots to her knees and address over them with pockets. You'll know it's lauren. I am so happy. I got to meet lauren. And if you're like you're going to be looking for her on that red carpet on oscar. Sunday is to stay out of the camera. But hey if she's fix an address or she's getting somebody some burell you know those deep pockets and her address are going to come in handy. I'm looking for the black boots to all right so we do have one more episode before the big night. Don't miss it. Because chris kelly jason gina and i all come back together. They're gonna share their expert analysis. They're hot takes as we go into the big night. And i promise it will help you watch the oscars with a lot more. You know information but also a lot more fun and if you like this episode give him some love five star rating. Maybe adding a little nice review. Oh thank you anyway. It'll mean a lot to us. Thank you so much for listening inside. The oscars is a production of abc audio produced by matt wolf. Our executive producer. Liz alessi special banks to josh cohen. Trevor hastings john. Green taryn hartman. Beth mullen kerry strasbourg elizabeth brousseau. 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Daredevil #218

Channel 52: The DC Podcast

53:49 min | 4 months ago

Daredevil #218

"The episode of keeps a lunatic sidekicks is brought to you by tweaked audio get awesome headphones tweaked audio dot com and use the coupon code southgate to get thirty percent offer shipping in a lifetime warranty where he can get there through the link on our website. Southgate media group dot com ca parak- annual listing vacation lunatic sidekicks. Podcast look out of against yard grow. That's what you give electric. That's what you get for in trump repeatable. And hey it's still march while reporting but this is gonna hit the podcast people. I so how. Free april fools. Kids crazy. Wait girls anyway. Welcome back double you know. That's right. I am the only one that matters bill. Sinoe evil loophole fire speaking. Kick your like stressful. Maybe after we cover this one win. Import last week's issue that that is doable. I have the rose for daredevil. The i don't really like wed. So merlo's candidates sucks. Just we'll take you back in time. Kids on vacation so built is on vacation. Her liver is working overtime. Just remember that on the seventeenth. So you know they gotta have a five david Weekend data with all when this all when all this episode hits the podcast. I'll be those. They'll be the first day of my mini vacation. Yeah I listen to this on april. I don't forget to tweet philip. Happy birthday. that's right. He's april first baby. Make of that. What you will and we're gonna move on if you're listening to this my future self remember. You're the best right. So what are you got up your ass. Stanbic suit there. Well the first episode of the the devil vw no for the first wacky episode for april of any of them daredevil to eighteen. Don't ask why did they met conor and moving on because no he'd even though he request is not as april fools take the cone his name in vain miller at the time do that will address like the joker the juster. Hey joker jester. The story is by denny. O'neil nobody tell. The lawyers look guests. Artists salvi cima in akin and garvey. Cena's owns getting are getting old rate. Cross the cross the room so yeah covers has got me all messed up absence. First of all i know i know from may eighty five so close and i mean we're about what nine months away from born again so they're just like throwing everything at the wall. Whatever own my lord is what again when you neil. Some of the books he wrote. I mean got weird when his spiderman run his daredevil run mike couple months before this there is he had like a delist craven like basically like seduced foggies wife away from working issues. I guarantee you google kids and the mustache on that foggy at this time. I mean look like a poor man's charlie ulcer away. We're doing now. That's how you know that's how you know man's either evil or depress all the facial hair. Oh my at one stage is that anyway your wacky issue for sure all my girls. You have ribbon away okay. We're getting fancy tiny. We got somebody fencing. Yes supposed to be the gesture fencing in prison but then when cards home is time's up. It's like you're not the gesture. He paid me four cartons of cigarettes to take his place. He said he'd made five. Five cents crave rich i know game four cartons said he'd give five recited. The poem told him the recite may. Well you keep all. Where do you keep all them cigarettes and then as you know that prison purse will it again. No one would suspect this but yes. The gesture gets away by hitching. A ride in the laundry truck. We've done this before. At least three times a laundry truck people taken batmans villas right now with the actually ever happened and that's why it's such a staple item Because it's like it. Seems like how many fiction stories he hit where the guy that escapes the laundry truck honestly halfway through frigging of preeminence arriving. Oh yet neutral. I know what you're talking about. Yeah i was surprised they didn't do that. You know the king movie on the green mile other prison movie. Oh my lord. He's just sitting there on the sacks of thirty laundry. don't hit the brakes dirty sax. All him crazy old guy but then mean. Wow at kennedy airport yeah. The airport isn't a pain in a confined in laguardia. Saying matt murdock. Saying goodbye to his girlfriend. Gloria in Nashville year back to ireland as her hair changing color from one panel to the next up their lives for first panels. She she's blonde. They're like karen she's irish. Okay they you. Oh we're not doing here. wait raising. we're doing me now. But yes yes. Glory glory you know breaks up the with them at the beginning of born again. Start saving foggy than disappears for a while and then becomes cannon fodder be worse. Could be interfacing. Luke windows we should do. We should we should not yet dot or one of the episodes doc raqqa. Count the bodies on matt. Murdock's tab wu now on his death count. But i guess we could do that. Definitely it'll be like. I miss the days when a cinema. What's the damage. We could do that when we can't do it. In that day to the pena's countenance say how many of these are dead. He's right up there with hal. I'm pretty sure oh hill but he. He never went underage questionable doubt but not in canon. Whoa so yes. She's going back to ireland. The some stuff let potatoes with. That's all you think about lavar intervention. Then he's leaving messing with the airport all the press than fancy battle. Now you know. Look look at these fans. Look at this fancy man. After mr la fuerza e. Yeah i was just like other only before in hart and his first name. george thanks. That's right Lavar burton living off all. But i don't know if israel was a real. But i thought i saw a picture like like an original script like casting thing for your next generation when they started it and the like the list of like all the actors they had in consideration for each character. And like for georgie. They had them. Tim russ so you know he could have been Jordan before you know instead a to buck believe that actually so alternate timelines somewhere. It happened but right Solar fancy people up to many other reporter the reporters asking them. Are you looking forward to performing on cable television late. Eighty five cables always been around. Since i've been born i was gonna say i was gonna say that how the other way it'd be worse if they were like hey. Are you looking forward to performing on the color. Television saw exactly cable tell best. Yes he's going to perform cyrano. Berge rack live. But then he sees matt One of the handicapped. I must speak with him. I i sympathize with you serve. I want to play oedipus. Rex the splendid reviews comprehend the plate of the blind. Oedipus rex yeah. He loved his mother a lot. A mother class to drool. And then there's like yes as this fancy man leaves the airport to limo drivers there to pick him up and he goes with the one. Who's basic like you the greatest actor of the modern time. There's something about that. Drivers voice i know have heard it somewhere before but i guess i've heard half the voices of new york somewhere before knowing. How many acts matt murdock has each shop on hops in a cab. Hope you don't mind saying that you'd look lousy. I feel lousy but then we see yes. The those faika limo driver laforge has been kidnapped by the jester Suspense please not quite the looks at a cross between the vulture in mysterious costume green purple baskin stop Not gonna dms. i'll be. He's one of the way way old school villains. But it's like i mean we bring the matador back. No we bring the chest worse. Kindred could have been gesture. Yeah i meant to this query looking up this yes the first appearance of the gesture. Daredevil forty two from july nineteen sixty eight at rather have bulls s in the movies that santa lie. I know all from the movie. All how there yeah jalan barrel said I'm just looking at some of the just gonna say i don't even after this okay. We never saw them again at will know we did but again it's saw this issue. We don't see him again until their volume two number twenty in two thousand and one. Yes so they were trying to everything now. So yes kids after this nineteen eighty five appearance. You don't you're not familiar gesture because he doesn't show up until two thousand and one. Okay frank miller and the senti. Our good friend dede chichester. Nobody wanted to touch this guy. Back right before tweet. Tweet them ask what they do. They still have some old guy. The wackadoo issue for sure. I know gotta be on angel dust or something. Some does totally office by while again. I guess they wanted like a joker but like you know when who doesn't kill people that's the worst kind. Okay this gets even wackier. do you one. You really want to know the writer. Who brought him back at new. Okay really gonna go down the rabbit hole. We're aright doing an arc on daredevil at this point with someone you may know from Another form of media. Mr bob gale. Really yes yes. Y'all mardi mardi. Yes bob gale back to the future right. Yeah well. His popped up really places in comics. Do you think. Do you think. I mean we should say this. But it's the gesture bob. Gale was just like showing. Oh yeah hey look. I know my comics history. The worst kind of fan boy. Cool cool you need this. This people like tom king. Who know bragging all those too. But i mean there's like guys all right mightn't get your own way. It's like it's like mark weighed in like you know the late more throughout i mean they were you know. They knew all tunnel comic history. They knew how to work it in but then they knew how to weave it into the story for the sake of the guys from other media coming off show them. I'm a big fan now. You have to remember. Tv's groups do not translate the complex. It is very hard going between the medium. i'm just saying argh different than tv as well. A whole nother layer. I remember governor. Kevin smith saint. He's like great mccormick script is like the hardest thing right of heavy lifting whereas you can kind of come on out loud when you're riding look at tv show episode or even played screamed play. Whatever tv movies you have a camera your show. You're actually showing people you know a scene the comics you have to tell them artists. The actor could like ad-lib something. It's not you know if you want something in comic. You wanna tell the orange everything. Okay so Yesterday gestures the before jin's going to take his place unbelie. Meanwhile in midtown cafe. Wait a minute is this. The joker prequel wacky or manage sorta debate fundamental route. You think you're funny. I that was joker because when he shot Deniro the head he would have been like. Oh you gotta splitting headache much. That look say matt's have dinner with foggy. See there's not mustache. Wife's found for separation love body. Matt you just love foggy please. You make much because once the worst goes through man. I don't think we ever see her again. No we don't debbie knows. Most people were probably forget that he was married. It felt like you blinking or how we forget matt was married in. Like what was that. The two thousands or tens. Well that that's totally different reasons. All that's the thing yeah she. She didn't die. She just saw lots of mister fear gas and went insane. I don't think it was the fear i think. He has a very own gordon on gotham effect on women. A sam winchester affect on women's has the crazy one. Yeah stabby next the latest. Go batty bay. Hey electrodes a straight a student. I met matt murdock. There and foggy like as he's talking he's like just like chicken leg around his phone so sad he's depressed. He's eating his philly. Somebody get help for foggy. Please i know. Meanwhile a beautiful blonde from across the room. I just thought. I mean this has nothing to do with the plot. Just the elk. Here's the another table. Thirteen or yuccas. Yes or law. Business is going to the dogs. I hadn't lied to those reporters with the law. Practice going to hell in a hand. Oh my god. One day we're going to have to cover. What is it to twenty three. I think charlie. And i talked about a year ago but we got. We'll bring charlie back in the secret worst to tie in issue where the beyond their gives. Madison go somebody was just comic book shop talking about that one that i was like well they. It could be worse. It could have been deadpool. Secrecy receiver wars and. Everybody started laughing. Then one forgets that issue because every time he's like i've been able to see since i was a kid. I'm like no you didn't up at the biggest my gone but then yeah. Matches matt walks out of foggy. Like i'm going to downtown. I bet you got an important it. Downtown matt colorado rob. That's right that's right off the podcast with him saturday them don't get him fired up as kids pretty soon. You'll be able to go. Well then i'll be ready. Give you a third best southgate. Oh nice out of nowhere. Just because pretty soon on the cape on southgate media group patriarch. Yeah you'll be here me and rob southgate Reviewing the first three episodes the greatest american hero speaking speaking of the eighties. Owner robert do pat k. Believe it or not lillies trunka again. That's no she's like again. It's vacation one that i sober. You guys definitely need to check out our review of Vaccinators justice league mixing all the alcohol on talking wine beer liquor. Yes because yes. Go check out the case lunatics. Podcast because out will episode to a one little m. I a drunk on the floor. yes me charlie. Esser and ray will be the you know. The high priest ray will be covering the first upset of falcon winter. Soldier wanna do because rain likes it. Hard bud torbay array. How'd you like it. Rain likes it hard to say we get. We get acrobatics balancing. Although matt thinking themselves he walks restaurant. He's like manna could not take the sympathy. Pity in their best friend again. He only thinks of himself lilith does all the thinking our. He's like he's like. This isn't someone. I can beat up and it's not someone i can sleep with. I have no use free. He doesn't know how to deal with funds. I can't you can't use of new used goes home puts on the cost you. I can sell them sort myself. Outstanding still so gives up all look spiderman going out that skylight sinema scarlet way better. He's got he's got the bimbos on the on the recap but we're talking about your sexual metaphors and thirty does flipping into the city. He wears a glove. You know then yourself out content body mind interact boy denny ecstasy or something Muzzle what do you think yourself up and slipping doing. What awaits the butter. See how can i choose between drops. I need a second page. I mean the only person closed you drop wise. Is charlie esser. One more dropped than charlie level paves so yes a mets start swinging. He's like a few minutes ago. I thought the uncertainty of my relationship with gory was bugging me. And it is. But that's not it what's booking me that. Yes he's jumping all flagpoles and stuff. Yes the airport. I heard or sent something should have been there. What's eating me feel distract lori would could it be not remember but then once he hits a rooftops that limo driver that's right rob Allow god he escaped from the looney bin again. All the superheroes should just mean prison guards so that way they don't escape makes kinda nasty sense benedict ford's town in syria iraq on on ken. The mentioned cable tv the chester frustrated actor obsessed with that particular play. So our joker dare-devils joker type villain is obsessed with cyrano. The borough were. I don't know going on. I mean at least joker making like do something with the plane cognitive but immune sooner depersia on how many of the kids know that thou now how. How many kids were in the cyrano in. Nineteen eighty-five trope way back in the eighties. Sitcoms the whole allegd so you help me get the groping. They would know the original what that's from. Maybe they watch the steve. Martin movie is not the eighties. Oh that was a that was maybe jaba. Martin is peak. Okay oh yeah. I was gonna say the movies were steve. Martin kirby sure a chevy chase babble exactly. The vacation movies knows a three way between those two or Eddie murphy took the rest of the town. Martin her chevy bound beverly hills cop twenty. Don't worry about Hillbilly but you ask for some crazy reason. Yuccas these crazy. The justice kidnapped before. I'm at least partially to blame. One less active the world really be that worse off without him. I know but you try terrible superhero. I know you're just like It's after eight o'clock the world really miss them not jail. The ball voted. Wait a minute i'm in. I'm in my jammies. The dogs are and i really wanna go up. I'm half. I'm half a sheet to the wind. Thank you for the vote of confidence full clothesline. I'm sorry this guy is crazy pants. Good grief what is he doing on my lord. Okay now we're gonna do the other trope. He gives to the gestures house that haunted mansion on a hill k. Gesture house is not matching up. Let ago pain when it come from old money. They dispel the ruins. All the who. I don't know unless he just likes so squatting in abandoned house sold better than a warehouse. Retired the warehouse. They wonder by tomorrow. I was gonna say who who previously owned this house. more expected what they can we replay planes. I can't wait for your episode of into the night. Podcast all honor. Oh no that's crossover. With ross over no you get lou no no tate. Yes oh michael. I was thinking you know. I heard a new episode of into the night today. In the ray of course still bleeping batmans name so if he mentioned mood night on our show i should believe midnight totally or just like the night even better just like over. So it's like when he says mood night she's be going dark then him favorite characters dark what am i doing. I'm giving away my plans. This is a marvel podcast elicited. He's busy with kids on his big news special. So don't worry about it. He's pissy with his big special big news special that he's working on some really nice. That's right man. I want to send in now. Almost in another intro for the show as the quantum than we we all. We already knew it. Was you just like everybody knows bruce lanes back but yeah i mean yeah Stop on the burger. Because ray likes it hard. Read the ringtone So yes a mac to break with comes in the window. The chester's house and secret passageways look at the those look like darts from like a dark ford Wine at him from behind at think they were. He's been blind. Wait a minute. We're those ruthies bill cosby's house own. Give him the pudding. But yeah i love this words like oh. He's been playing for years. But it's moments like this. It's not a disadvantaged. Oh my lord here come. The thugs baggage bone one with one with like a A sword one with a tweet plane one juggling the you window and subtexts. I'm a y. 'cause the one night juggling the balls couple of bowls demagogue to sipping linda belgium liberals physicians. Squatty him thrusting. The gathered did take the but like it's vein will. The guy comes out. The first guy comes out with the sword and then he leaked forward. He headbutts him You headbutts them right yet. Our he right him. Hit him right the sack with that face that set that days fascinate. I hurt you. You was handy guys like i'm going to get near you. It's a plane. Can the radar sense tells the sheep plane he jumps out of the way and its own. It's coming back. Must have a homing device building secret. Probably it you don't see it. I thinking missile. If you will die. So yeah matt runs in the dachshund and log onto the thugs and hit some great way to have a ball. Maybe okay all right. Couple of bowls yakuza. This you got thrown his skysurfer during his balls Daredevil before his. I i decided to see you Say it and the do all the work in cutting up for me. Yes so yet. They're dodging out of the way what these here are plastics special. Let's put this weird talk this of australian or something. What the at a nowhere. Absolutely no what they do is walk. What w what they do is bounce and break like those daredevil. The jones on him and just like one of the guys juggling his daredevil just like thursday billy clubs maximum. The thing that they're double catches the ball and says he's rated is hard smokin. But god wrestle it nick. It'll be something a lot stronger. My friends hey man. He had the someone serious batman them with freak flag. Fly here definitely so yeah love home. They'll ties up the thugs and says i might tell the police where you are. I might not could be weeks before you're found. Tell me about the jester. The thugs like eight. Don't threaten us. We got nothing to tell you. Said he was going to show the world. The critics going to be the definitive somebody or other of course. The definitive They stop all of them just went straight to wear the cable. Place was bro. You literally had you're on the right trail. Yeah don't you think yeah. We hit the guy that you think is going to be doing something with that. Yes because as matt scott's explained he felt that i guess i guess the old gloria loved him wanting so he can't think straight. Get the poison on clarity please. Yeah so yes. Yes the gestures. Motivation chief out. Cyrano was the part he was born to play. The writers disagreed. Most of the disagreements were nasty although we've been enemies for years always phone have things in common with the jester failure. Because you'd like to tie people up. You could have been great but you're mediocre. Oh let's let's be honest to mediocre lawyer suffered disillusionment and that's pretty much made us what we are and we both hide are real. We both hide a real faces. Yeah you and half the people in new york come on places. Lousy with people come up. He hit behind the clowns face. That's what he became a gesture but his jokes aren't funny. They were ugly. His rage turned into a form of cute. I feel i. I think both of us being called out here. Curiously were became your rate became. Yup i can really put it that the service of crime maybe crime wave lashing out at the world that scorned him jeered his dreams so yes a daredevil swings to the studio oh look cbs house. I cable house i cable. Cbs no unless it's like cable broadcast showtime is owned by cbs. That sutan put this on back in the day showtime while down so i could see it. What was it in college but yeah it won't be able to forge in front of the cameras. He's probably locked in a room somewhere. It'll be the chester grabbing for laurie. Again so yeah so we s we see the gesture actually in the sierra makeup even guys in the control booth that's before but whoever is he's good even like brilliant never heard such raw power acting of such power if i stopped him might be punishing the audience. Wow wow deprive them of a once. In a lifetime experience the juster will go anywhere till after the show on that. But what's that in the corner. What's that heap of clothing. It's the gestures. close his the gestures odors on it. That's when the cop show up. Your tenant raphael. Carl even punish them. Like what the hell the cops busting. They found the forge because he escaped from where the chester hatami God says he's been doing bro. Matt muster smoke. They do these you know he look he puts on the gestures outfit. Lead the cops on a chase of the gesture can finishes stopped one long. He is plenty of my birthday wellness drops it will be. I'll play with you anyway. Play tag with if you swept. Because if you don't obey meth he gets quandaries by under the we're gonna shoot. I know i know. He's the copters chasing him around the studio the television studio. What would you be Daredevil come on fuzzy wuzzy catch me fuzzy wuzzy. Meanwhile bear coming now me. If you dare quantity feels a lot of people say calm of books are starting to get on greedy in nineteen eighty five like bitch wearer verbiage other euro to go maybe maybe. The writers just started sobering up. All they're like real lives hard social comic books. Our feels weird rig. Another man's cost. You wanna secret identity on top of his secret identity. That's how you get metal down to say well. Yeah king the king of the nervous breakdowns. Here i mean it's anyone anyone in comics more nervous breakdowns. Them at murdoch. Honestly no i don't think so. Maybe mona you can think all why well i think. Moonlight spend a permanent breakdown. Matches comes just one continue with this seriously. I does account getting drunk drunk again. If you're already drunk but you know that's what they have just started drinking almost like. Oh the cops. Almost how many but few seconds you know they can help me but yeah the cops have a corner and he takes off the mask wearing a huge. It's removing my mask one. Yes he has that. They're double mask on under the mask. Well i mean at least it's believable. At least you know he doesn't have to see how the dub y holes or anything daredevil explain to mr hey lung he the jester. Hannah looks like a nicholas cage. As he doesn't like twenty twenty one own out their old man nicholas cage. I stole the show declaration of independence that would disney for cancer net movie franchise and now report. Nicholas cage. what he's gotta do. You're making wackadoo movies. Where he's covered in blood they did have the franchise that please keep him out of my sears hormone seriously where's gone in sixty one seconds. Come on killed that movie damn proud of to come along. We can make a comeback. Come on and leader. Joe lee is that too old aswa say angelina jolie playing plane with the shift there. But yeah the gesture surrenders because he's like i. Can't you know all i wanted. Oh mazzi like you deserve. the value. Were magnificent the call. More story bro. I know it's just like white. If someone wants something enough they are allowed to like kidnapped. Somebody kid they're never watch you play games with us. Because i hadn't you'd have closed his show. There was no need. I guess was math thinking you know what if we stopped them. He tried his we. Try this crap over over. But if we let him complete the you know his monologue maybe he'll retire which he did until like i said two thousand one. This is the perfect time to close the door and never come back exactly. you know. i'm sure a lot of writers were like. Yeah gestures retired. We're not bringing on that matt. Now got the crazies. 'cause he has one he dates them. Yeah exactly poor. Doggie will yes. This was so a product of its time. But what did you think lackey. Definitely a monthly theme. Yes what is the terrible terrible story. Art is good art. Definitely at the monthly say Soared the plane. Now lay again. We just excuse for some action. Because i mean really. That's really the only action you get in this story. Yeah 'cause you know just daredevil swinging around and fighting the folks blue walls. 'cause he's not thinking clearly our medical term. Don't ask me is a medical term. So you get rid of this drops classic. You can't get rid of the that's been comes in handy more often than not really low at dawn comes in handy words. Yeah that's g. Drop some wife martin. He'll the salad like c. minus for me. Ooh very average. You know late eighties. Stores is definitely isn't one of them. Yeah i mean it's not a typical daredevil story the good this is good. Classic sow art some help. But like i said there's not a lot of accident and again it's there till beats up three thugs because he doesn't even like one punch that gesture. The gestures gas render as far as blackie issues. Got me better than say. A shocker episode. So ooh what do you think was trying to do like a thinking. Man's daredevil issue here classy anyone. I found inside comic book. See they're trying to set them apart from know daredevil apart from like spiderman or something or he's teenager a teen ager spider. Death made Arnold minus but maybe as c. plus. Okay that's fair under the arts. 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The Twilight Zone and What's Making Us Happy

Pop Culture Happy Hour

22:29 min | 2 years ago

The Twilight Zone and What's Making Us Happy

"Support for NPR and the following message come from Dulles International Airport with the highest on time takeoff percentage of any airport on the east coast. I a d means I'm already departing more at fly Dulles dot com slash fast. It's been sixteen sixty. Oh, sorry. It's been sixty years since the twilight zone, I aired with the voice and eventually the face of its creator rod Serling now CVS all access has brought the following series back in a new incarnation. This time the host is Jordan Peele. Pio was also an executive producer. And the big cast includes Adam Scott, kumail, nangiani, Sonali 'then, Stephen Tracy Morgan and a whole lot more. I'm Stephen Thompson. And I'm Linda Holmes here with me and Stephen in the studio to talk about the new twilight zone his Glen, well, then of NPR's arts desk, Glenn and in our fourth chair is daisy Rosario of NPR member station W AMU here in DC. Hi, daisy. Hello. So we have all seen four episodes of the new twilight zone and an untold number of episodes of the old twilight zone on that topic. Glenn were you a an old twilight zone viewer at all. Yes. In college. They were running I think to episodes and night. So it became kind of appointment viewing. Pretty sure I've seen them. All it's a very. Specific flavor. Isn't it lows old ones? They tend to be back in the day. Very tidy little fables for some minor little moral infraction causes some crazy ridiculous consequences, ridiculously harsh punishment. Don't get me started on time enough at last the one that really loves purchase mayor to the prince's buses one because I hate. You know, my favorite part of any given toilets own wasn't necessarily story. It's the moment when rod sterling would step out from behind Bush, and he looked rate with a very skinny lapels and even scarier ties. The Brill cream end the usually the cigarette going the cigarette like smoking with those old ones when you'd get the twist when you get the game when you figure out what it's about. You didn't have a lot of time to check your watch. Because it was twenty two minutes long, the new one in some cases, not all I think they get better as they go. But an hour is just a lot of time. Yeah. Just kind of thing. It's interesting because the first one which is the one that come on Johnny is in and full disclosure has been on this show. We know a little that one is the longest one I think, but to me I will admit I expected it to drag more than I found that it did I felt like with that one. There were several levels of what the game is right one of the twilight zones classic things is be careful. What you wish for and the power is awesome in both. Ways. Right. I kind of felt like that. When I stayed with it. But I totally get what you're saying. Dizzy, what was your reaction to these four episodes who they all felt long to? Yeah. Yeah. Which was the biggest I think bummer. I mean, I just felt super aware of the fact that they were longer than I needed them to be a huge fan of the original series. I should say that like I'm a really huge fan. I grew up on them. I can't even remember the first time I saw them because it was the kind of thing my mom, and I would watch together and reruns. And so it's been a constant in my life. I'm a huge fan of honor. I've always really loved rod sterling because of that like I always had a poster of him above my desk kind of level of love and the original series is very hit or miss as well. I mean, right. It just really is like you can make incredible playlist. You can make a killer playlist the videos of them if you leave out certain things, but it's up and down. But knowing that this is a completely new series in. They're trying to you know, right out the. Gate, get your attention. I might not have made it really passed the second up Assode. We weren't going to be talking about it. I probably would have put it on the back burner and go all at that get a little further and revisit. Yeah. And see what people are saying I've done that with many shows. And I think we should say probably that these four episodes of the first one non Johnny plays, a comedian who is kind of struggling and wants to be famous a very kind of a classic twilight. Yes. Very to me the setup is the most twilight zone. Yeah. And the second one Adam Scott plays a guy who's on a plane in kind of a spin on Zee William Shatner sees a monster on the wing of the plane episode, which is kind of a classic. But in that one it's a different kind of thing. It has some of the same dynamics. But the ending is really different and didn't work for me. Steven, what did you think about these? Well, I mean, I I will back up everything that these England is said the episode's tend to be too long. It is wildly uneven. Just like the original. I did find that from episode episode because you have completely different stories to completely different cast. You have these tonal shifts that can be really really wild. Especially from episode episode. I enjoyed the Camille non Johnny episode in part because so much of it is Camille Johnny on stage. So the fact that it dragged for fifty five minutes when it probably should have been thirty five didn't bother me as much. I thought the Adam Scott one was fine until that kind of dopey ending. Then you have the third episode replay with Sonali 'then, and it is a a more wrenching kind of hard sit. She's the mother of a son who is going to college and she's carrying around this old camcorder and she realizes through twilight zone. Ian nations that she can rewind time using the camcorder. And basically, the camera becomes a metaphor for for the eternal vigilance required of African Americans when dealing with the police, it is a very powerful episode. It is a very difficult episode to watch. But it is weird too. Have the experience of watching the twilight zone and have that burgling of dread and rage offset against the inherent corny -ness of the twilight zone where you have Jordan Peele kind of turn his head in twilight zone. And so that episode for me, you felt the corny nece butting up against intensity and sincerity and powerful storytelling. And then the fourth episode a traveler that's the one with Stephen Younan great career. It's an x files episodes executive. It's written expels writers. And I also think that is the one that is the most to me about that Steven young performance. I think there's there's not that much going in on in that one. That is interesting from story perspective for me. But I love that performance. He's such an interesting sued. It's interesting to watch this and also his performance in burning. He's got a real handle on these kind of uncomfortably confident. Sort of Weasley, but charming, he's got a real style. I love his performance in it. But I got to the end of it. And I was sorta like I mean, okay. I mean, the Somali thing when I do want to comment I love her. She's such a good actress. She's I go back with her to love and basketball and some other things, and she doesn't get necessarily as many great roles as she should. So I was really happy to see her in this. And I do think there's a poignancy to. I mean, the twilight zone has always been trying to use these hooks to tell a real story about morality, and I think it makes some sense that that morality has evolved a little bit because it's no longer. Just be careful what you wish for and stuff like that. I wrote about this. When I when I reviewed it for NPR, but surly had a real kind of don't, you know, just embrace your community. Don't let the community turn on each other. And this episode I like because it partly has an understanding that the community has already turned on certain people. There's not the same reverence. I don't think for the small town because a lot of times he would do the sort of the nuclear attack fear rips, the bandages off of all the wounds, and the small town turns on each other this I think relies more than understanding that it already is a very dangerous situation for a lot of people, and how they might respond one thing that is that I like about this series is that only one of the four that we've seen has point of view character. That's a white dude any old toilet one. I can think of the point of your why I mean, I really liked having women. So in that Stephen unanimous owed which has an air yet. You know, the point of view character is an annual it woman police officer like like when you gonna see that anywhere else. I mean, that's that's Jordan Peele. He's producing a show. He's also starring in. I do really want to pick up on something that that Stevens said, you know, when rod sterling would step out from behind a Bush or just shop in the kitchen. You know, there was something that was the game. He would be talking about very serious things. But it just couched in this nostalgia. I I don't know it here. It really is like a record scratch because it is an the word. I used is corny. It's exactly the word that you used. It's just it just doesn't it? Just doesn't work for me. I don't think we need it. It's funny because I watched the first couple of episodes, then took a break and went back to it. And I actually think that's a better way to watch this show this oddly enough is to me a very unbelievable show. I don't think binging a bunch of episodes at once is the best way to go, and it's a little bit better taken in piecemeal because it feels so piecemeal. Thematically from episode episode. I'd actually taken down in my notes after watching the first couple episodes. I like the way this show leans into its Cornyn, est. I wrote like I think that that kind of silliness when the concept is a little silly. When it's kind of over wrought, then that narration is fun and playful and you're just like in the twilight zone. Yeah. But when when episode takes a serious hard tonal shift that doesn't work as well. And so this is really a show that I recommend Kenneth keeping your ear to the ground. And when people are talking about an episode being particularly good go and chase that episode down. If you have CBS all access, I don't necessarily think you need to like sit down and spend a weekend main lining the way there are so many other shows that that works incredibly well doing I like it a little bit more. I think than you guys do and I liked that Sonali than episode. I think more than you did. Because to me, it's not any more. Heh. Heavy in the sense that you know, a lot of old twilight zone episodes were about things like nuclear attacks and isolation, and and racism, the fear that was at the the absolute heart of the twilight zone for me. Always was the fear of being by yourself. The fear of being left alone is what many of those episodes rely upon not just the fear that you're gonna wind wind up on another planet, you know, with no one around, although they did that story kind of several times, but the fear that no one believes you about what you are seeing. That's kind of what the shattner episode on the plane as it's always been about this profound fear of being by yourself. And I think what I like about these episodes is they don't have a unifying, you know, the one fear that you can kind of see running through all the episodes and not such a regard for community as a safeguard against problems. I don't think that episode is anymore. Heavy I think it's just more. Pacific. I think it's more specific and it's more topical. But it's not any heavier than, you know, ones that were about other things, including as Glenn said, many were allegories about racism and xenophobia and other 'isms of different kinds. Now, I would agree with that. I think also as we're having this conversation. I'm also thinking a little bit about widen. The Jordan Peele thing work in. It's also like, well, you know, rod sterling, I couldn't imagine him in sketch outfits from his previous right? So there's so the Jordan Peele is kind of showing up with this. Baggage of he's hilarious. And obviously, incredibly smart like the fact that the person who made get out is the person that's bringing the show back gives me so much. Hope I agree. Even though I didn't love these first few episodes as much as I would have liked. It's not something that I'm never going to revisit. But I do think in terms of how they bring him in. It feels weird one because we have these previous associations with him. Was cute peel in Campell? Yeah. I mean when he was on mad TV. I mean, he's just he has these other images that he brings up and it's not like he's in get out. So smart as that is it's not how I picture him. But then also, you know, the original series as much as rod sterling came in. There were times where he kept it to voice over and think that in when I say they could have been more thoughtful in some of those moments in terms of how to bring in this major element of the original series. This host this narrator. I think that's what I mean there because it it is almost distracting to me in that Sonali th and showed which I really enjoyed that episode in a way that it it works so much better in the command on Janica peel talks has talked about that a little bit that he wasn't sure whether he should do it because he was afraid that it would set off a comedy instinct, and I think one thing that probably happened to me is I saw these right after I had seen us. So I was very much in the mind of Jordan Peele, fascinating horror director, more than Jordan, Peele key and Peele. We'll Kiana all that. When it came into this. Well, I do want to hear what those of you who managed to catch at least an episode of this. I think the first episode is still on YouTube the comedian episode. Yes. Free to check out if you wanna get a taste or let us know what you think find us on Facebook at Facebook dot com slash P, C J or tweet us a PCH and tell us what you think of the twilight zone when we come back. 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And if you have not heard it if you have not heard this interview, I'm guessing you've probably heard fresh air. But if you've not heard this interview, I highly recommend tracking it down. Rob Delaney has had such an interesting and sad and fascinating and beautiful string of of years, and some of that has fed into this wonderful wonderful show in the interview, he talks about grief. He lost a son fairly recently his writing process with Sharon Horgan, the wonderful co creator and co star of catastrophe and talks a lot about marriage, and how this show tries to depict the harsh and wonderful and thorny realities of maintaining a long term relationship. It is such a wonderful show. I am so sad that it is over those twenty four magical episodes still live on Amazon prime if you've not checked them out. And also really go track down this fresh air interview. It's terrific. He so fun. Thank you very much. Stephen Thompson support that Glen Weldon. What is making you happy this week? Oh, you know last year when I recommended a British narrow podcast called wooden overcoats. I heard from a lot of people saying, hey, this is this is great. And I always like that. When that happened Selleck being right? Something happened that I like even more which is people would say, oh, that's great. You check out this. And this in this case was Victoria city. It's another British narrative podcast. This one is set in an alternate London. Steam puck adjacent, I would say, and you know, I'm aware of steam punks work, but that's not my thing. But this is funny as hell it's about this easily annoyed Detective Inspector and the very eager reporter that they go on a case. There's a big overarching mystery there's lots and lots and lots and lots of word play. It's good old timey radio. And it's, you know, the Victoria city is refers to the fact that in this alternate universe Queen Vic. Tura is a robot, basically. So it's called Victoria city, and you should check it out. Thank you very much Glen. Well, then daisy Rosario what is making you happy this week. I am happy about the fact that something I've loved for a long time is good again after not being good for a long time. And that is project runway. This as my pick good, Pat considered catastrophe. So yes, we are all circling some very lovely drains this week. But I I am so thrilled that project runway is finally back to form. And and I want to acknowledge that their last full regular season on lifetime is actually a very good season that somehow it was kind of very strong. But it felt like a blip. It seemed like they didn't quite know how they made that happen. It is back new host Carly Kloss whose name I had heard before. But who I literally knew nothing about until the new show and Christian Cyrano who's you know, the most successful project runway alum of all time is replacing Tim Gunn. I loved him gun. Honestly of all the elements changing. I was most nervous about the Tim Gunn thing. But Christian has been fantastic. The show is back the tone of the show is changed. And it's it's so excited to be back. And it's really being put together. Very well. This has been one of my all time favorite shows. I love watching people do something that I am not capable of doing. And there's some. Personalities, but it's really about their skill. I love the show. It is back to form. Yes. This is exciting. I dipped out of that show years ago. I am so fascinated by the evolution as a human being of Christian Syria hundred percents. I because he was such an annoying tour on his original season of project runway. But you can't write people off on their twenty three years old. Now, he's he's so good. He's so good as a mentor is wonderful. He's so smart his comments or says smart he understands where they are mentally in terms of the clock. And he's just like you only have two hours, but I should mention full disclosure super weird fact Christian Cyrano used to be my friends roommate years ago back when I think he was like seventeen and had just moved to New York. I don't think he would ever recognize me. Remember? Always rooting for him ever since that first season. I agree with this so much. Oh, good pick days your area. Thank you very much. What is making me happy this week? And this is another bene- favorite for a long time different tone, different tone, bene- favor for a long time. I went back this weekend. And I was watching some recent episodes of property brothers. If you know this from Twitter, but I bought a house recently. And so I have been watching a lot of HGTV, and I went back and watched a bunch of property brothers. And you know, what I learned they've made some improvements to the four brothers. And I was very surprised they have stopped doing the thing where they take you to a house that they pretend is one of the possibilities. And then they say, well, this cost eight million dollars because everyone clearly was onto that scheme. So that whole thing just seemed so ridiculous that the person would be like this is perfect. That's by this house. They say it's eight million dollars won't while? But now they just say we're going to take you to one for inspiration. So that they no longer are going through that ridiculous short for on charade. Yes. They've also kind of lightened up on the it's this house versus this house. They just kinda show you two houses. And then they say, which of these do you think would be good as opposed to, you know, your choosing between and drummer all they kind of go through the process of buying it. They've also had a couple of episodes where they didn't get the house. They tried to get I which never I feel like us to happen. It's better. And to me this show has been around for a zillion years and his wildly successful. And I think they're very smart. This is kind of what's making me. Happy is not just property brothers. But you can take a show that's been around for a long time that has a formula and say, but what about the formula is kinda dumb, and you can change the dumb parts of the formula. So I feel like this is a great week for reality shows that have been around for a long time. You have the last few seasons of survivor. Season thirty eight and it has gotten so much better in recent. It's true. And I think you can always you can always change it up. You can always find options, and I'm happy the daisy. And I both are sort of in that camp. I love what project runway is right now to I almost picked up myself. And that is what is making me happy this week that brings us to the end of our show. You can find all of us on Twitter. You can find me at Linda, Holmes. You can find Stephen it. 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FFR 124: The Half of It

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FFR 124: The Half of It

"Hey you may have heard but feminists frequency has a new initiative call games and online harassment hotline this week. The hotline teamed up with three other nonprofits who serve the gaming community. Take this global game jam and the idea. Da Foundation to launch the stay in the Game Relief Fund. This campaign will help make sure that our organizations can stay in the game during the Cova nineteen pandemic because more people in this community need our help more than ever you can give back by checking out the campaign at give. Butter dot com slash. Stay IN THE GAME. You can donate or even start your own fundraising page that kiss that they share in the way that Ellie leaves. And then I'll see you wanNA keep that. It couldn't have been more perfect for me. I'm Oh God. This movie's some parts of it. Were so cute. I couldn't handle it. Welcome to feminist frequency radio. This is the show that asks you to be critical of the media that you love an Asia Sarkisian and I'm joined today by two women who could write big volumes on adolescent longing caroline pettit. And how did today? We're going to be riding our bikes along the highway. Zimbabwe's of small town Washington state to talk about the modern day. Cyrano tail the half of available now on net flicks. How's it going? What is Cyrano tail so Cyrano de Birger Act is the classic story of a Duty Guy who doesn't know how to express himself getting somebody who does know how to express themselves very well to commute to to communicate with the object of his affection for him but Cyrano himself is sort of a not often himself considered attractive because he has a very very long knows it was the basis for? You know maybe a lot of more modern audiences know it from being adopted into the Steve Martin Film Roxanne but you can also definitely see the the framework here in the half of it the film. We're GONNA talk about today. Yeah well. Isn't that fancy yeah? I didn't know that watching it but now I do so. Hey I feel like I learned my new thing for the day. Aren't you supposed to try to learn a new thing every day? Sure you whatever. The a lifelong learner always be. Ab L. always be learning. How okay is for learners? Oh boy so. This is how everyone is doing today. Pretty what I told co-co-co-couple Ebony is Basically sweating her off body off. I don't know how Carolina's doing what's the weather like in the Bay Area Carol. It's mild at the moment We've had. We've had some very hot days these past few days. Apparently it snowed in Toronto. A couple of days ago Well apparently like the whole like eastward sixty percent of the United States is going to be facing some massive cold front or something. I don't know I Listen the Earth is telling us I'M GONNA get ya by Hook or by crap. Yeah okay. Hey I'm tired of your bullshit so it really. That's it for us. It really is you know and can you blame it. No not at all. I was Very upset about the healthcare system in America recently which I am regularly but you know I had more specific reason to be recently and I was like. I'm getting the fuck out of this country which is not a thing that I ever say and I was like well. I can go to Canada because I'm a Canadian citizen and then I was like. Where would I go and Canada though I was like? I don't really WANNA go back to Vancouver maybe Toronto this note and I was like Hell. No I'm not leaving California. It's just I just. I need California to be its own country can. How's that separatist movement going? Can I? We like start that up again. Oh Gosh as if we weren't already somebody's watch list just saying all right. Y'All the half of it is the second feature film from Director. Alice Wu whose last film was two thousand and four saving face. The half of it is a sweet coming of age story. About a riot bookish financially strapped teenager named Ellie Choo who agrees to help Paul the charming but dim football player slash part-time sausage king. And we mean that literally who is desperate to woo. The girl that Ellie herself has a crush on what it's a love story but perhaps not in the way you think or as Ellie herself says it's not the kind of love story where everyone gets what they want. It's a film that centers platonic or the love between friends just as much if not more than romantic love but it never diminishes the longing that Ellie feels for the lovely astor nor does it. Give the sacrament happy ending that a more traditional Phil might. So let's talk about the half of it. Let's talk about it. I don't watch a lot of films. I don't know that I would characterize this as like you know why in the way that you talk about like why literature whatever but. I don't watch a lot of films that center teenagers very often. You know and after watching a book smart last year and really enjoying it and really enjoying the half that I'm thinking what have I been missing because clearly you know there are some people who are doing some great work one of the things that I really liked about this movie in the same way that I really liked about book? Smart films about teenagers that kind of allow them to be messy and take them seriously while also acknowledging that so much of what is making them. Miserable is a product of the fact that they are young. You know and that they don't have the autonomy and the resources that they will hopefully have later in life. I found this like just really delightful. I could you know it takes on some really heavy issues. I mean the relationship with Elliot and her Dad For one but it just it remained so it was just like a confection. It was so late and a lot of ways I really liked it. I so I was fascinated by this foam. Certainly You know early on. I think I I caught my interest because there's a moment early on where So Ellie Ellie. Chew the main character. Who is I think? Just wonderful and plan wonderfully She has sort of begrudgingly. Agreed to help Paul. This clue the the earnest but inarticulate football player sausage King You know try to communicate his love to to ask Florez and so And she's watching this film at home with her dad. Her Dad as a Chinese immigrant. Who doesn't speak English very well but he watches a lot of films at home. And so at one point he's watching the film wings of desire which is a film that I adore And and Ellie winds up just quoting the film directly in the letter that she writes as on behalf on Paul's behalf for Astor and the funny thing is that astor like recognize it. And she's like. Oh Yeah Nice try like I like like wait wenders too but you know and you know. I. It's that sting where like I like wings of desire I would never in a million years have caught that that was a reference to wings of desire if somebody snuck that in an email or a romantic letter to me or whatever so you kind of understand early on that That this is a kind of heightened reality with right you know characters who who are way more. In in some ways knowledge aware culturally aware. articulate than than not only most young people but most like adults actually are. I'm though of course they're still deeply confused and troubled about all the the questions of love and life and things that so many young people are. But yeah you you kind of have to go with it except that this is like a a a bit of a fantasy In the sense of how it how it's characters Think and talk and Act at times but I have a lot of affection for the film. I think it's definitely got its heart in the right place. It's really sweet. I love that it doesn't give you the conventional ending as Elliot says very very upfront. At the beginning that it's this is this is not a love story. At least not the kind where everyone gets. They want and she wasn't kidding about that. You know it's I did feel like maybe I'm maybe I'm just a little too old for this at times or something because I felt like some of the situations where a little contrived and I couldn't I didn't really believe in the behavior of the characters at times but you know but it's but as a it like as a film for younger people. I think it's really sweet and smart and endearing and you know and great Interest imagining don't people who are listening. I'm by no means saying that. Like there's just a Cornucopia of you know just a buffet of media. That young queer kids can watch these days and see themselves affirmed by but I am heartened by the increasing amount of media and I think like God what would it have been like to watch this when I was like fifteen you know and to just have it be like Eli's longing for and just like wide eyed kind of admiration of aster and really kind of the idea of of Astor You know like to have that taken so seriously to not excuse me to have. It not played for a joke to have a film that they took it seriously and took both characters seriously. I'm wondering what that would have been like an I love. I love that that Ellie is training American. Like I just come on young queers of color. Just get yourself onscreen and like the that heavy anticipation of wondering if you'RE GONNA get to kiss the object of your affection. Oh God pump it right into my veins I think that I agree with you on a lot of what you said. Carol and the the parts about like the movie didn't Grit me right like it wasn't like I had just completely lost myself to this narrative in this world but I still enjoyed it and I still think there's a lot of value to it and it. It's still really really solid. I did also have that feeling of like I might be a little too old for this for this which is fine like and I don't feel that way about everything that I watched with teenagers. But it did feel a little bit like that for for this particular one And that's not honestly like insincerely. I'm not trying to diminish the value of this film or that. It's actually like a very you know it's a it's a good film But one of the things I love. So so Elliott has played by Leo Lewis and I think she plays her so well so good. I really really really like this character a lot. And I think that she's just such a she just embodied who this this young woman is in. You know the the Po- like she's you know they're poor. They're like struggling financially she. Her lost her mother at a young age. Her father is you know like he's around and doing stuff but he's dealing with the loss of his wife and she knows that she's smart right like that's the thing that I love about. This is that while. She's insecure about maybe her sexuality. She's insecure about kind of being a bit nerdy Feeling like she's stuck in this town that she doesn't really want to be in but feels obligated to be. She never doubts her intelligence. And I think that that's really beautiful. Um for a teenager and really a wonderful representation in this space and I also have how. She doesn't sort of like blossom into something that she's not. She remains resolutely ellie throughout even she starts to learn more about had perhaps open herself up in some ways or take chances and in some ways Like don't ever come off and she's not. That goes do some huge makeover which I was so happy about as well exactly exactly. Yeah I think I'll I didn't mean I thought you had more to say sorry to say no that was that was that was exactly like I. I don't watch a lot of ROM COMS I do read tons of romance as anyone who listens to the podcast knows a lot of comes precisely because too often. And maybe it's just the ones that I've seen. There are those tropes and beats the kind of have to be hit and yet they're often are those moments of like sort of forced change for women in ways that hinge upon like the Physical Ray. Oh we have this character. Who's kind of build as being you know plain Jane or whatever but we know that she's incredibly conventionally attractive anyway? She's wearing classes. And then you know three quarters of the way through the movie. She's got the make overseeing. She takes off the glasses shakes or ponytail loose. And you're like what so we didn't have that? I think this film has a lot of respect for its characters in general I mean I think there's a great moment early on where Where aster is responding to one of quote unquote Paul's Ladders and says You know she says something like a. She acknowledges that she's pretty right and she says like you. That may sound conceited. But like let's be honest and I sort of I always in real life. I kind of appreciate it when people who are attractive like in the in the conventional by cultural standards sense like acknowledge their attractiveness acknowledged that there are certain privileges that come along with that and also of course that there can be you know lots of unwanted attention or lots of all kinds of you know things that maybe aren't aren't great about it either but like just like you know. I. I don't have much patience for like the beating around the Bush like of like people who just refuse to acknowledge that they are considered attractive when it's incredibly obvious that they are considered attractive like and and but but Astra also in. This film isn't just like the the pretty girl that Paul and Ellie Adore. But who isn't really much more than that I mean. I don't think the film gives her as much time or development ask does to Ellie and Paul but I think what time it does give her is is well used to develop her as somebody who is complex in her own way. I mean I think the film big religious community in the film and the film did try to simplify that are just like ridicule that either It acknowledges you know the questions doubts. I think that some of those characters have like aster at one point asks Paul like. Do you believe in Guide and Paul says of course and it's like maybe it's because he believes it but he also thinks it's what she wants to hear and then the way that she response to that like. Yeah of course like you can tell that that. Even though like her father I think is like the pastor that she seems to be having these questions in her own in herself about like what is it even really mean to believe in God. And do I believe in God and I don't know I appreciate that that there are those shades of of complexity to all of these characters. Except maybe trig who hate trig. They named him trig though rain like that changes for folks who have seen it yet trig is the bumble like the really like quote Unquote High Jock Dude. That astor is data because like she's the hottest like young woman in school and he is the hottest guy at school and so they just like are supposed to be together kind of thing. That's a sense that you get. And she's like she's such a nonentity to him that he never picks up on the fact that like she's completely checked out of their relationship and it matters to him not a whit you know like he will be a straight up talking to or are talking at her and the point is she is just a warm body a warm body in front of him but the fact that she's clearly not invested in their relationship doesn't penetrate whatsoever. I also really appreciated Alice. Wu's direction of his. There is some really smart and effective. I think visual moments there's a moment where So Ellie is as as Astor. Sometimes calls are a heathen. She's not she's not religious but she is the accompanist at the church Because she she's a better musician than any of the anyone that Her father could find and like you know he couldn't he couldn't handle the poor musicianship of of the believers so so so the heathen gets to sit in and play so but there's this moment where like like a I forget exactly how the dynamic plays out but I think Ellie Texts something to astor as Paul. Right and astor reacts to it but then she turns backwards and smiles at Paul and Paul like nods and smiles back at her. And you have this shot right where you can see Paul and Astra and the whole congregation like together on the bottom level and ellie is like alone I forget what you call that area but the musicians like where the where the organ is on the island is higher level. And it's just like it's this. It's this really like meaningful shot about like how she is kind of removed. I mean even though she's very involved in the dynamic of their relationship because she's writing everything that Paul says like she is like removed from it. Like there's there's a real you know. I just love shots like that that that are the communicate something a beyond just like. Here's the physical space that the characters are in which there's definitely something of that going on and in that moment and that whole scene felt very Theatrical and a Shakespearean sort of way more so than I think some of the other parts of this film where it was like. She's she's making this grandpa reclamation at the top of whatever and she like walks down the stairs and then everyone is in their different areas. And like it's it's It was What's the word that I'm looking for? you know like anyways thanks. It was cute cute up in a certain way. I can't think of the word but we're like it's kind of me. Contrived like Yeah No. We don't need to guess the word I mean but but believe another minute. I'm just GONNA them for a while to look but no I mean like there was something about like and it was its climactic. In that way right like the moment we've been waiting for and it does play out a little bit differently than some of the other Carolyn. You're talking about the direction like it plays out A little bit differently physically in that space In the way that it was performed with this whole audience and like nobody really moves for Ellie and like when she starts walking down the stairs like oh is she running out like what's happening in the show you is just. I thought it was interesting the way that it was all stage staging staging there. You go there you go hold on. It's I think it's also related to the intellectual references of the whole film right like that. The relationship between astor an ellie like Carolyn. You're saying is a little hard to to accept but I think that it's actually really. I love that. It is giving teenagers credit in a lot of ways of like young. It'd be really smart and intellectual and and put these pieces together and use Use texts whether it be films or actual books or what have you to try to make sense of their own lives right and their parents lives and the choices that they need to be making and thinking about and of course even Paul who we could write off as the as the quote unquote like dumb guy like we think by the end of the movie understand that yeah he may not be the most best verbal communicator on planet but but there are all kinds of intelligence. And you know he he does. Paul's Love Languages Sausage Tacos. Okay Yeah Yeah exactly like He. He's creative in in his thinking about food and right and what he wants for the business and like so. He's got stuff going on as well. Mike you know when Ellie says to him you try harder than anyone. I've ever known except for my father with my mother. I really loved that you know because it reminded me of the scene. Where Paul is telling Ellie yes. She gave me this book. It's you know the remains of the day and he's like I've been trying to read it. I Fall Asleep several times. It would have been sell easy for him to just toss it or get like the spark notes version or whatever but because it matters to astor it matters to him you know and I love that. I love that more than the scene. Where Elliott is riding her bike and on my every time. She was on that bike with the bathroom in the back was so cute but she's riding her bike on the highway in this truck that we've seen a couple of times before in the film with these teenage dudes comes writing by you know harassing her. And it'll be see policy with her once and then he takes after the guy's yelling at them and I'm like yeah I get. It saved the puppy. Whatever but it meant more to me that he kept trying. Servings remains of the day as a way of demonstrating character. I also. I think it's interesting. The particular way that this film let characters make mistakes and how it views. Those mistakes so is particularly. There's a scene where Paul Kisses Ellie and like and you know when I see that I'm like Oh my God dude. What are you doing like? Why would you think that she would want that? And like dirt definitely films in which I think like even just seeing that depending on how it was handled. It could've been like the forced kiss or whatever is often like this really. It's a problematic kind of traitor. It can be if these the pattern of like the guy sort of sweeping the girl off her feet with with the forced kiss that she doesn't even know his coming nor does she nor for all he knows does she want but like like. I thought that I mean I don't know I just thought the way this film like you know young people do Misunderstand. Things sometimes do fuck up and like so. It's not like we're supposed to like right off Paul forever for like how could you ever do something like that that was just awful? Your quote unquote cancelled. Get Out of here. I it's like we can acknowledged that it was a fuck up and just the way the film actually treated it as a fuck up was kind of like refreshing in a way to because I think like it's we don't see nearly enough instances of men and women being friends without having to be that romantic undercurrent right. So there's a way in which we're all trained to see any kind of closeness or intimacy between men and women as necessarily like pre sexual or romantic in some way. And so the fact like yeah. He's seventeen you know. It's unsurprising that he might have misread. Those cues because we many of us do make that same error I also like how will like but when he figures out that Elliot Likes Astor And says it's a sin. It's this total. You can tell he doesn't really believe it goes back to the question that you posed. Carro UP A win. Asked him if he believes in God and he says like yeah of course. And you're like well do you really or is that just something you've internalized something you've consumed and now you're you know you're regurgitating it but you don't get any sense that like he actually feels this and this is something he's going to have to unlearn he's lashing out. He's angry in them. I mean he's confused but it doesn't. That doesn't seem like I don't know anything truly believe as he's trying to struggle through but I like this person and think they're a good person. Why do I think they're going to hell? Is like looking up things about gay online. I love that he types into Google. How do you know if you're a gay which is like you? Don't don't call a gay person. A Gay. Just doesn't know it's very very key character consistent. Yeah and so but like I did really like that. His Mom who obviously is you know. The the family is very traditional and a lot of ways and very conservative. It seems like was like it. It's okay if you're gay like she doesn't really believe it but she's like you're my kid and I'm GonNa be there for you and so yeah. It kind of sucks that. She's relieved that he's not but I did like that. She made that effort even though it probably like killed her to do that. Right that modeling I thought was was nice back to the the relationship between Elliott and Paul is like of course like you know there yet. Platonic relationship growing in them like caring for each other in like being invested in in this but both in selfish ways but like that you know as you spend time with each other you you learn more about them and that they're slightly more depth to other humans rate and it makes total sense that like he would start to have feelings for Ellie because he's like learning about this this other way of existing rate like I if you're seventeen and you think someone is cool. You're going to automatically think that that sexual right. I mean Fuck. You still do that as adults so whatever but I think that one thing. That's kind of cool here is that he's learning that like in what is attractive. Might not just be the hottest young woman in school right. That like intelligence is attractive in connection and communication and like engagement. And you know all of these different things can also be attractive. And that was his process that he his his emotional growth that took place because when he when Elliot asked him at the beginning of the movie like why are you so into astro like. How do you know you're in love with her? He's like the like he was trying not to be like. She's Super Hot. You know and so like it makes sense that he would then be like. Oh I must like Ellie now. Because he's fucking seventeen and dumb and hormones doesn't know that you could just be like oh you're smart person and we have a really nice friendship or whatever and maybe he's attracted to her to you know that's super legit and I like I'm thankful that it is about a queer young woman so that it doesn't end up that those two are together in the end kind of thing you know I was. I mean I was low key word even though I knew going in. And that's not what was going to happen. I was so prepped. For it by you know every all the media that I've seen before that I was like oh no ono. They're not going to end up together. Like this is not what we're GONNA get. This is not going to be a chasing. Amy Exactly exactly but then win. Elliot and Astor do not ride off into the sunset together. I was equally pleased because I know how much you know l. e. you know feels for astor and just longs for her But I I just thought it was so honest the way again that it portrays this young love that is so intense and can be so all consuming. But it's not meant to be nor will it be this kind of forever love you know? And that's okay. You know the people I was in love with when I was seventeen and was convinced lake yet. This is it this is what a soul mate is and it. Maybe I remember some of their names now. Maybe every month twitter feed but the point is like you know it was right for that moment that kiss that they share in the way that Ellie leaves. And then I'll see you in a couple that it couldn't have been more perfect for me. I'm Oh God we'll and some parts of it were so cute. I couldn't handle it and also the other thing is that there's no indication that astor is queer right and that Astra might have any interest in women although I bet you. She started to feel very confused about what was happening because she ascribed Sexual attraction to the communication right. And so you didn't feel like any that astor felt any kind of I do. I do totally. We don't know that right like we noticed. It feels like a very questioning moment for astor being like. I didn't realize that I could have these kinds of feelings for or this closeness or this intimacy and like trying to figure out whether that could be romantic or sexual or not and And I'm glad again also that they didn't end up together and that it was like Oh you know like ostriches magically is like cool. I'm in love with women now which you know. Fuck it can happen right. And maybe she decides she's not whatever that's also but I like that. They didn't do that. And it just left it with Astra being like I'm not GonNa be with this fucking douchebag Herbert revelation of like. I'm going to follow my dreams right the other. I guess we'll just really quick to the other thing about that ending. Is that as? Elliot's like see you a couple of years. I was like that is so the thing you would say as a teenager. GonNa see her again college. You'RE GONNA date all of these fucking women that actually like our into you and you're GONNA be able to explore that in a way that is is less repressed than it is in your small town you know and you're not gonNA fucking give a shit about aster liking. I totally see them like writing to each other in college. Become good friends but no. They're not going to be a couple. I did okay and clearly. I'm projecting here because earlier in the film and that just really lovely interlude when they're in the hot spring and astor you know heads into the water and coaxes Elliot N. I was prepared for astor in that moment to reveal that like. Oh maybe not. She's not into Ellie but she's had feelings like this for friends before. I just thought like this is bisexual here. Okay so clearly you know I just like it was clear to me. I just felt like Oh. Yeah as was definitely by. Yeah I mean I I think that astor is I think maybe that's and again I don't think the film gives her as much time and development as it does Elliott and Paul. But I think there's enough there that we can certainly infer or speculate that like Maybe that's where her convert even asking. Paul do you believe in God like maybe she is on some level struggling with like the limits of what the Church tells. Her is acceptable or unacceptable in terms of what she wants for herself. And so yeah at the very least I think we can. We can suspect that she's going to go to college and at least be open to exploring things that she's an art school. She definitely hooking up with some women whether she is queer at all or not happening of all the characters in my favorite characters in the film are definitely. Elliot's Dad Yeah. She's so sweet and then the English teacher who straight up did not give a shit L. E. X. You. I wouldn't prefer that you did that. I have to write the shitty papers. They bright themselves. But I really wish we had been able to spend more time learning about like astor's interior life but also the way she has to move through the world because although we definitely learn more about like Ellie and her father and the particularity of them being Chinese and Chinese American in the small town in Washington we don't get a lot about aster and the fact that like ask her and her family. This Latina family you know in you are in this very white town and that there's that scene where astor's in the high school in front of the main girls like all the blonde girls or whatever and it's like the visual contrast between her with her beautiful brown hair and in this row of blonde women behind her and the fact that she's dating this dude trig who. I can only assume does not have a last name like Florez but it's something super white like I would have liked more time spent on that you know and trip thinking that. Ellie has aggression. I mean it felt a little wedged in but I also like it just. It was me laugh. Here's like yeah I know what's going on. I mean. I have no sympathy for any wine. Who Does the the WHO puts their partner in the position of the public proposal? Where there's all at least if you I mean it's okay if it's only for showing you already discussed like I'm going to ask you to marry me at some point and like are you okay with you know. Then we can do the ballgame like I'll ask you on the jumbotron thing but to put a person in that position like a without that how that is just absolutely unacceptable but exactly but the God. Yeah at least like I really loved that we get the way talks about her father and like how qualified he is how smart he is. And how like the only reason that he doesn't have a better job or whatever is I mean I mean is because because he doesn't speak English all that well like people perceive him as not being capable or qualified or whatever but he's like eminently qualified and like I don't know I just love that acknowledgement of how often it happens. That people are looked over for things that they absolutely can do are capable of doing should be doing jobs. They should be doing or whatever but because of societal prejudices racism Gender discrimination. What would you know you name it like? They can't get the those those those jobs and there's that great moment where you know. Elliott is saying to polite. He doesn't target and pulses like I don't either but we know that he knows in that moment lake. I'm never going to have the same trouble right now. Right your father would although there are kind of the class implications because I think you know trig is obviously of the upper middle class in the elite in this town but Paul much more clearly working class got this huge family and whatever and so there are those those considerations as well to. There's a way in which you know the way that you speak marks you in so many ways and either allows for inclusion or you know put a barrier to exclusion for so many people. I think that part of what is so appealing about this and this film as like a Rom Com right as like a type of story that we've seen so much of in the past. Is that like? We are increasingly seeing stories of folks in these traditional roles who are immigrants who are poor. Who are you know like all these different intersections of identity? That adds a depth to these stories that we just didn't get before right like these stories. Were historically about wealthy rich white people or like money didn't matter in these situations and I think that all of these little pieces make this film so much deeper than films before it or if that makes sense of this genre and I really appreciate that I think it you know obviously comes from the creators and the perspective and experience of the creators and it also I just lost what other the also is so. Yeah I just appreciate those touches. I think it adds a lot and like Ebony. You started out talking about like what does this mean for young queer women of color or like girls of color growing up and like seeing these experiences and having validated not having to squeeze their own experience into white women or like a wealthy person. Or what have you to to be able to feel seen and validated and have a great dad. He'll send you off to college in Iowa with six days worth of dumplings love right there. I mean I don't know why going to college in Iowa the dream but you know you go get it. Kate Grenell you know is that a is that a real school. It is a great school. I did love talking at carrow. You mentioned the top of the show. About how like know there were things that were kind of contrived that indicate like this is a heightened reality is as if she decided to grow to Grenell and then what she was automatically admitted Stanley? What the time elapsing there was. It seemed like there was some decisions that made really quickly and then things just SORTA APP. It didn't matter to me. It was just delightful little confection. I loved it. Y'All well the half of us is Annette flicks so go get it. We'll be right back with. We'll be right back with our weekly break out. The covert in nineteen pandemic has the gaming industry and community playing the world on challenge mode right now so many gamers developers and studios are affected at the same time. 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Stay in the game and making a donation and sharing it with your friends. Now it's time to talk about what's been thrilling us. Moving us of setting US or infuriating. Us This past week Caroline. You WanNa get US started. Yeah I am freaking out about a film called driveways which Is a film like a number films that were slotted for theatrical releases? Right around now. It's it's Obviously that whole experience of human life going to movies is not happening right now. So Driveways is now available to watch like On on demand online. And this is a a lovely just a really lovely film. It is it stars. Hong Chow. Who you will recognize. Many will recognize from having played the east the trillionaire character in watchman on. Hbo Like the woman. Who's building the Mega Tower? Or whatever up in more money than God serve the game but in this film she plays a you know working class single mom who Who a strange older sister has recently passed away and so her young son go to basically to clean up the house and maybe just kind of what to do with the house. Her sister died. I had lived butter and slash. They The next door neighbor at that house is This like Korean War veteran played by Brian Dennehy Who was this sort of legendary actor of stage in stream? I'm recently passed away but He plays this like Korean War. You know obviously much older guy and unlikely kind of connection develops between these two relief groups of people and make sure it's a very very gentle film but it's it's it really observes its characters with a lot of compassion and empathy gentle film. And I just think that particularly right now I'm at a time where maybe getting as much or even human interaction as we usually do or might want or need For me a film like this that is so human and so kind of so compassionate and so concerned with people and their lives and they're small and large struggles It's it's just know it's just a lovely film to to watch right now. That's him. That sounds good. I Miss Movie theaters me too. Especially when it got really high in the last few days I was like Oh like an air conditioned movie theater. That's what you do on these like hot you know But also I just missed that experience. Whatever it is the least of the problems right now but it's just something that I think you to also understand and agree with all right. Everybody freaking out about I'm freaking out about excuse me. Well it's it's kind of a a nest of things so I wanNA frame it by saying that You know apt there were having this conversation during what is Asian American Pacific islander month. But there's a recent article going around from the Guardian that relates the story about these young boys who were marooned on a deserted island for over a year before they were rescued and they were rescued by this. This wealthy white young man who was the son of a incredibly wealthy family and so it has been discussed as kind of this this article and the story about these tongue and boys As this reputation to the whole like Lord of the flies phenomenon this assumption that left to our own devices. Humanity is you know will be savage and selfish and dark and we'll revert to kind of might makes right. It's it's very hopeless and cynical view of human nature and so this story about these tomboys who survived and who didn't turn on each other is has is being offered as this corrective. The problem is that it is a very white framing of what happened to these kids. That should be surprising to no one but the story is really taken off and there have been all these calls for the dude who wrote the article like Oh you need to turn this into a screenplay we want to see this on the big screen and we wanna read more about this with no expectation that actual Tongan people will be involved or that. The way they tell. The story should be the narrative that we should be learning so today I was. I Haven't stumble upon this twitter thread this writer Vika Mona who was herself tongue in just talking about and I'll read one tweet. She says the way people are talking about the Tongan Boys on the timeline is reaching a level of disturbing where people are talking about us without realizing we can also lead this conversation and it's just this incredibly You know informative and important you know insertion into a place that she should not have to insert his tongue in people should have been should own the story and I mean literally own the story like you know there is a white man who bought the life writes this story. And that's appalling. And that's you know but as I say it's not surprising so I'm GonNa put the link to it and you can read both want to the article that is sparking this conversation and then the responses to it as well as a number of other Tonkin writers were like Joe. There's so much the story leaves out. There's so much that it gets wrong. But also it is itself a horribly racist colonialists framing. Oh we're so surprised you know like these. Tong and boy. These indigenous kids you know didn't behave themselves. The way that we expected based upon this know mid twentieth century fiction like fuck off with that so anyway going to put the link up there okay. That's a lot. S It's really. It's only super interesting. She's all right My forget this week. I'm going to shout out to books which are both the third in their series but I just finished them back to back so The first is Mary Revenue. Chorale friend at the CAST I finished the relentless moon which is available for preorder. I believe it is the third book in the Lady Astronaut Series which. I didn't know there was going to be a third book because the second book ended in a way that I was like. I don't know where the fuck you would go from here like this is just this is the end but the third book actually takes place in between the first two and it's and it is From the perspective of a totally different character. So it's someone that you meet in the other books but you know obviously very different and she is also an astronaut and she and this is all about Time on the moon instead of time going to Mars. I highly recommend it. I think it was really delightful. I think that this character is lovely. Bad Ass woman that I enjoyed Reading and experiencing an also. I'm I'm going to say that there is parts of the book that startled the crap out of me in terms of our current times and that are like in this book. So that's it. I'm just going to say it's not out yet. I don't. I'm sorry I don't know when it comes out but I do know that it's up for preorder so definitely check that out if you're into space and astronauts all of that Jazz I don't think that you need to know the other two books to pick this one up although I do recommend the other books as well but it is fairly standalone although it does reference some of the other characters I will also say sorry one more thing about it is what I love about. These books is that I think Mary Robinson does a really good job of figuring out how to integrate issues of race into a story which is very which could very easily just be all white. People Right It is you know. It's about space exploration as a way to save humanity in like after World War. Two so I think it takes place like in the fifties and sixties The fifties forty fifty. Whatever it's whatever. It's a time I was like World War Two anyways it's time when like I think with some other authors that are not as conscious of the importance of addressing. These issues does so for example. Like one one creative way of like directly addressing race in this. Is that There is the I see a the interplanetary. No making all of this up anyway. The people who fund space travel our space exploration across the world one of the big countries that invest in space travel is South Africa. South Africa is in the middle of apartheid at this moment in time and so like using that as a way to talk about race and racism and tensions like on Mars like in Mazar on the moon. Or in these these discussions I think was a really smart way of not racing The realities that That face people of Color in this particular time in integrating them into these narratives so And also there are lots of women in space and so lots of sexism to Hooray anyways. Mary road does a really good job. I'm not doing it justice but I think it's really smart how she handles all of that. The second book. I WANNA shout out that I just finished. Last night is John Skulls as the last emperor IQ and Prox- emp rocks. I've never said that out loud. There's a lot of names in this book that if I ever had to say out loud I think I would just be like you know how when you read you just like make up the ways that name should be pronounced reading them in your head. Does anyone else do that? Oh Yeah bonus should be you just pigging out those sure but then as soon as you say them out loud or talk to someone else like oh. I totally read that wrong anyways okay. John's calls the last emperor. It's from the interdependency series is a trilogy. This is the last book so it ends. The first two books are collapsing. Empire the consuming fire and it is a you know a space opera. It's about the really is about climate change but in you know obviously in a science fiction world so it's about the end of the the flow. Which is the ways that Habitats can get to other solar systems within this larger INTERDEPENDENCY So once they are cut off from each other than they will not have any ability to sustain their own lives because they're interdependent. And you have all of these monopolies on like rice and and technologies and each of these noble families have all of these monopolies so therefore if they get cut off it literally going to be a long slow death for all of these planets and communities and hubs and all of this stuff so it's a really it's bold and it's intense and there's a lot of evil people and you know hierarchies and you know all of the all of the political machinations some really really cool female characters that I I really enjoyed so I think it was a lovely wrapping up of the series and I recommend it so. I didn't mean to have to freak outs but I sound great though. They're wonderful all right. We do have a listener freak out this week which I am excited about. 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Data Driven Insight into Your Video Interview Process with Scott Sandland

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25:40 min | 8 months ago

Data Driven Insight into Your Video Interview Process with Scott Sandland

"This is the higher power radio. Show before we get started. Let's take care of little housekeeping. Hey did you see the recent survey that sixty nine percent of organizations transition to remote work in sub capacity as a result of kevin nineteen as we all know. A remote workforce requires a remote hiring process but the goals of hiring still remain the same to identify and hire the strongest talent. If you're struggling with this challenge criteria can help check out criteria corp dot com most advanced recruiting techniques. Land the most desirable talent your company to massive six six. This is the higher power radio show with. rick girard. look. I just need to hire someone to do work so we can get this product out. The door said peter a ceo of a new leaf funded startup. besides there's no way to really know if somebody fits into the company until you experience working together. This is not true at all your interview process win. Properly structured will give you the evidence to support making the right hire each and every time because as we all know one bad hire can destroy your company. Today we're talking about the power of digging deep on the right questions and utilizing ai to confirm your conclusions. I'm richard welcome to the higher power radio show. We share insights from top performing rebel entrepreneurs disruptors and industry experts like our guest today. Mr scott sandland is the founder and ceo of serano sierra. No i said. That's me eight times that i told you i was going to botch up. As our high that is the other variation of our name we get a lot cyrano. Dot scott is the former world's youngest hypnotherapist if you companies and a few decades later he is the ceo of a company focusing on artificial empathy and strategic linguistics as a former executive director and ceo of a mental health clinic longtime technologist. He has experienced leading purpose driven organizations and has been published in numerous peer reviewed journals psychology today forbes entrepreneurial magazine which is what makes scott perfect expert for today's topic. Scott welcome to the higher power radio show today. Thanks for having me. It's a pleasure to have you. We're going to discuss a couple of things we're talking about getting to the truth of who a person is especially in your video interviews. Because a lot of companies today are having challenges with video interviews and getting the right data out of him and when to talk about how to leverage to confirm your hiring decisions stomach flat. So i find today. Companies have an interview process. This really no better than a coin. Toss and bill process. It's fairly shallow. The asked common questions that are people are used to getting and it's centered around. How can you help me. It doesn't really have anything to do with. How can you help that person. It doesn't have anything to do with whether or not that person even feature cultural values at all. It's just what skills you bring the table. And how can you dot. Yes so you're looking at like a checklist which things you want to have happen. And you know the person you're interviewing obviously on guard and putting on a show and trying to be their best version of themselves but it's difficult for a person unless they're really putting in the effort to dig deeper in terms of the culture fit and the soft skills fit that person's going to bring to the job which really makes the difference on if they're a good higher or not. That's true and i find a lot of companies. Just don't know what the culture is sure. Especially if you're an entrepreneur near start up and you're trying to get work out the door. You have no idea so when i was the. Ceo of a mental health clinic the newport clinic at silver by newport harbor high school and we were doing a lot with at risk teens and stuff like that and drug rehab centers and we started during obamacare during that rollout when all of a sudden there was a ton of money in healthcare and all of a sudden there was just this flood if he will needing help that could now afford it so we were hiring as fast as we could and that meant we were looking at resumes and lists and okay. This is a person who is an md. We need a marriage and family therapist. This is a person who's a lcs. W we need one of those and they'd come in talked to him for a few minutes and we'd hire them and sometimes it worked out great and other times two weeks like oh. This is the worst decision. And how can we just schedule this person's hours away from my hours which are most of the hours so it's real easy especially when traction is kicking off and people are excited and busy. It's real easy to just say. Oh anybody with the skills is good enough. We just need someone who can do the job. That doesn't work no no. It doesn't work at all if it does work. It's because you got lucky totally that's it. Yeah what was your pain point that you realize. Hey look there's a little bit more to this than dot. So when i was doing that job i was hiring therapists and it was everywhere from psychotherapist life coach ever in between and like i said the soft skills were more important. Their ability to just connect with the clients and work on a team were way more important than their certifications in licensors said that again because that's really that's really an important point it was less about. How much training. They had less about which credentials they had and much more how they fit. And how well they could relate to the clients. We had a person that we hired who was on paper. She had a ton of boxes. She's intelligent woman. She's very talented. And i set her up. Gave her three clients the first day and she bombed all three clients all three clients. Said we want our money back and we're never coming back. Wow and she's a qualified person. She just did not connect with our customers even remotely and just okay. Well there it is. Were you able to capture any of evacuees. Those three clients walked never came back. That can destroy your business one bad if you'll end up with ten day and they were influential like i think back to the amount of money i lost that morning before lunch it was so much money for startup clinic that was bootstrapped and to have those people who's one of them was absolutely a local influential person and if she had headed out of the park we would have had our phone ringing for twenty more sessions by the end of the day and instead crickets and this ties route to wide. It's important company. One me starter. Why should i care about this really. I just have worked that. I need to get done because the wrong person that checks the boxes again. Just going back to that person who's qualified but doesn't work for company cost the company so many cycles so much stress and so much inefficiency that report and that team work is critical. And i'm a big sports guy big teams guy and so you can see that often in sports where a guy gets traded to the wrong team gets drafted by their own team and he just doesn't fit culturally in the locker room. And how big a problem that can be for an entire organization. Sports you keep score you know if the guy's good or not the ball in the basket every time or scored three touchdowns. He's good but when a guy doesn't fit on the this just happened in the nba. Last season where they traded jimmy butler to the heat and they said this guy's no good. This is no good. They trade him to the heat and he was in the nba finals that season. And he just said. I found the team that wants to win as much as i do. That's where it gets dangerous to. Is that a lot of job. Seekers are desperate for job. Unfortunately and so. You're not always getting the truth out of the process. So if you're running a typical get to know you interview process where go have launched. You're getting the bestself especially if you're not digging deep enough with interview questions or doing what we're gonna talk about in a few minutes confirming or gaining insight into who that person really is. You're no better than a coin. Toss and if you ask applicant. Why do you want to work for our company. The true answer is because i have a mortgage to pay. Ideally want work at a place where they're gonna fit but they want to get paid. They want to be employed and so their hierarchy of needs. They'll say. I want a job. And then was i have a job. I want a good job where i fit. So if that person's already employed in place and is making an upgrade. They're going to maybe be more honest about who they are. And what they're looking for and where it's going to be. But if they don't have a good job right now their incentives are aligned for them to just try to be what they think you want rather than try to be who they really are if you look at people who are even jobs but they're unhappy at that job. They're not necessarily always honest as well. You have a little bit of that challenges. Well you have to get past that you have to get under the hood to understand who the person hits and why this is important. Ultimately there are people who are career minded keeping their eye off the salary ball as long as you can might be beneficial to you as opposed you focusing in on that as a. That should be what they do and when they do that. That's great too often. They don't us as interviewers. It's our responsibility to do that. To lead them down pat sure. Because if i understand you and what's important to you outside of the money. Then i can really make an assessment of whether or not you're could fit right organization. Yeah and i'm a good fit for you. And that was another thing that happened. At the clinical lot was my clinical director. His management style and management south were very different and so there were certain people where one of us would just be totally hands off. Because we knew that if i manage this person. These are the outcomes that we don't want. That are totally avoidable. If we just have richard managed that person and vice versa knowing that person and knowing yourself means not just when you're hiring them also when you're picking who you're gonna hire you have a strategy of. Oh this person will work well under this manager where the space is not just culturally in the whole corporation but in the specific role with the specific team. They're going to be on our. You're listening to higher power radio show. I'm your host rick girardin for our podcast listeners. ticket quick educational moment from our sponsors. The hiring landscape is changing unemployment in the us reached its peak of fourteen percent in april leaving many talented people looking for work. Since february. the number of applicants per job has doubled. Hiring is always hard and it can feel even more daunting in the midst of a pandemic. Well you need is a comprehensive portfolio a free employment assessments. That can help you get to know your candidates. Even though you can't meet face to face learn more at criteria corp dot com check out higher power radio dot com there. You'll find additional content and resources to help you. Land great hires our guest. Today is scott sandland. He's the founder and ceo of sear-. No it's like cyrano diversion wreck i wanna say cryan. Oh i don't know why boever apparently can't read today because our cyrano a and we're discussing wyatt's important number one to get to the truth of person who interview about video interviews because now you're in a situation where you're adding another layer on top of the fact that you can't see somebody in an environment. Gosh the possibility of you conduct a normal interview and you can't really read body language or somebody's hiding accidentally seen from here up Highly elevate the possibility that you're going to probably make a bad hire. It increases the risk their luck. Because you can't read the room the same way when two people are in a room. There's just a whole bunch of subjective things that humans have evolved to be good at assessing for survival if they're via zoom so you're now interacting with a screen but you're also staring at the camera. You're doing this thing. We're looking back and forth at their face and then at the little dot on the top of your laptop. You're doing this constantly and you're seeing yourself so now. There's all these layers of distraction that you don't normally have in a face to face interview because when i do a zoom session on my. That's what everyone sees in my background. That's the back of my room. Oh that's my haircut. Oh that's my whatever as i'm seeing myself which i normally don't do what i'm conversing with people. So there's just all these layers that make it more difficult to do a good job of understanding and getting to know a person. Virtually tons of distraction and makes that much harder. So let's talk a little bit about your product so you guys do what we do. Is we analyze words. We analyze words and phrases in context that allow us to understand a person. We create psychographic profiles on a person. So that means we understand current mental state which means not sentiment analysis. Not like are they in a good mood or a badmin- this person is being logical. This person is being driven by problems and solving needs person is driven by x. y. and z. We can measure that and then we can measure their priorities. So this person is ego and instinct centric this person his data and process centric etc and a bunch of other things and this is based operating their social profile. This is based off or resume. It could be their resume. It could be zoom conversation. So right now we're in zoom and you can just do zoom call like you normally would and our system we'll take that zoom call and run a report on everybody who was on the call and talk about what it would take to have both the people on the call work well together. So it's here's this person here their priorities. Here's how committed they are. And here's the next steps. You should have with this person if you want to work with them. How to get the most out of them. I find out more valuable than an assessment. I'm not a big fan of most assessments gives feel like most companies. Lean on that as the main decision making and that's only meant to be a confirmation tool can whatever your judgment that person i'd be sure and there's disc myers briggs any of those things. They're fine with the caveat that you aren't one person who you are is very context dependent who you are with. Your kid is very different than who you are the customer or client or co worker. The the role. You're in and the scenario shifts that so if we can say not. Who were they when they were filling out a multiple choice test. Because that's not that relevant. I wanna know what they're like when they're having business conversations and so our system captures that in real time. yeah. I've taken a lot of those. And i find that they give you two or three choices of words and you pick the most relevant ones. I can fudge that. Yeah however i think that that company wants their achievable. They're totally achievable either. One of us could take the test and they say hey. I want you to come out with this result and if you took it two or three times you'd be able to do that and you could. Just get the result you want to get and not be honest and so the nice thing about our system is just runs in the background of zoom conversation. So there's no you x. There's no anything that's going to distract you. It just listens and it takes the whole thing and turns that into information so that you as the host or interviewer or whatever word we want to use you. Now have more objective information to make the right decision if we want to build a process into our company and we're gonna utilize strong interview process and then layer in tools like cyrano or another tool on top of it. Where do we start. What are the first steps. Or how do we put this into play for the organization so the first thing to do is measure the people in the organization and understand really what that landscape is and that easy. 'cause you're having internal calls so you just run the system during internal calls and you get that and then you figure out in the role. You're hiring for what that needs. Let's back up. When i'm curious that you have to understand yourself and your team i totally and then they'll these out into your values. Yeah they really are when you think about your brand why your company exists and what your brand identity is to see especially in startups. The company's brand identity is really an extension of the ceo or founders identity and that makes sense but as the company grows. It is reasonable to assume that that can change. And so all of a sudden you bring on a couple of key hires that are leading division of the company and they might be likely are different with different personalities and priorities and so recognizing the subculture that they've created in their department or just the leadership of the organization as individuals. What they prioritize. And how they think through a process. Like i said ego versus data today essentially are adding to the culture injecting their own values into that. Well so then you have to keep that cultural value system up today and you have to work on it and go here. These really are corporate values. Now i it was mind but now i've added four executives around so we need to sit down and ties. It doesn't take very long dude six half day and it's totally worth doing because you wouldn't want to hire clones of yourself. You would want a diverse team that reinforces each other guy. I see so many organizations though. Unfortunately that are command control in they just want people can come in and do the work and they do hire yes men in clones of themselves in people who aren't set up for success Orgainzation is that's fine. But you really need to look deep into whether or not you want to grow the company and innovation spurs. Yeah and if you're a legacy company with a bunch of big contracts that exists and you just don't want anyone to rock the boat make sure you just create copy paste rinse and repeat but especially if yeah if you're looking for opportunities to be innovative to be disruptive to have healthy debates in organization making sure you're hiring people who approach the same problem from different perspectives is critical We've analyzed ourselves. We have an idea who we are. Who are team is. Would you do next you profile the people that you wanna hire. Yes so assuming you're hiring person for a role it already exists and has already filled and so you're either adding a person or back filling or something like that. You could profile that person and say okay. We have john in this sales job. And john has this sort of graph in these sort of archetypal features. Do we want another john. Because he's doing great or do we want a person who has more xyz and you just really look at that sort of philosophically and say what is it. That makes john great at his job and doing now. What you might want may not be the best thing for the company. Sure and that is a challenge. No matter what so all we're doing is giving you data saying look. Are the things that john is good at. And because he's good at these things here's what he's gonna do when he stressed. Here's what he's going to do when he's being creative. Here's how he works well on a team. Here's handful of scenarios and so we can say we really liked the way. John does all these things but if we could have a person who's different in this area that would really round out our team more now ultimately that might not be correct that might be a wrong strategy but at least you're making strategy based on data. Yeah you're tying it back to your core company values as well. People could work differently in approach things from different angles. Diversity is great because when you have people from different viewpoints coming together. They're going to challenge each other as long as they're sticking with the corporate values they're holding those truth when their decision making it puts you in a strong position in part of respecting someone or some organization is understanding how to work together. When you don't agree. And just saying look i know this is regular. It's gonna do things this way. And that's great because there's all these upsides to. It's not the way. I would do things but i trust rick to do it. Because he's earned that the course of and this time together so when you think about that you say i don't need a clone of me and i don't need to clone rick. Maybe i need a hybrid of both of us. Or maybe i just need someone who's gonna get along really well the rick because this guy is going to be reporting to rick anyway and is the ceo comfortable saying we need to grow an organization beyond just stuff that works with me moving on from that. Then we're talking about what creating a process. Yeah we're doing this right now. We're doing a pilot with a large commercial retailer and they're using our system right now in a pretty big hiring process where they've got so many applicants what they're actually looking at using using some software that they create pre scripted questions and then the applicant just gives their answer into a webcam and just records a couple minute videos on each answer and that's the first screening process see. I don't like that. I don't like that because a lot of people are comfortable being in front of a camera. We're we're we're more used to it now because of zoom but the fact of the matter is is that when you're talking to a camera and there's no interaction from another person you're just answering questions. It's not accurate and the idea of just looking at a camera and talking into a light or a camera and trying to be a motive. That's a trained skill. You have to get good at that. And most people aren't trained for that no and most who are good at the job you want them to be good at are good at the job instead of that we need to create a customer interview process. And what does that need to look like. Yeah so you could take their resume. You could take lincoln profile. You could take any of that and run it through our system with button click and then you're getting a profile on that person thumbnail sketch and then that could help inform you on what kinds of questions you want. Ask this person about and you could say okay based on their employment history and based on these psycho graphics. It's easy to start creating interesting insights in questions based on the combination of those things but it also helps you build a shortlist of people who you think you're going to be target rather than throwing shit at a wall and hoping something sticks yet which is what most hiring processes are. Yeah you're targeting in going after those people that you think are going to be the most accurate and doesn't matter where they come from. Somebody comes from a job board or something like that. It doesn't matter. There's an argument for and against high-throughput interviewing and there are some people who really want to do that and just law large numbers kind of thing. I wanna see fifty candidates for this all right. God that drives me the zillow. In what else are you gonna do this week. Besides see those candidates and by the way how are you going to remember the difference between applicant fourteen and thirty nine those are going to start to blur real fast. So you ate up a week or more and it's difficult to remember who you liked more anyway and sometimes you'll on people that will end up taking a job in the process before you've had a chance to get so you're a you're the third person we hired. We should have just hired. You had to do the fifty because we said we would. But we want you and there were like too bad. I'm already working down the street. Then you create a situation where it's completely a transactional scenario. They're not joining you. Because they want to join you there joining you because of the monetary compensation and now. They're not joining you because they feel wanted and special. Just you're the best we found. We didn't say we didn't offer you the job quickly because we still talk to forty seven other people but eventually we got back around to you. That's not fun to go through. When you're the applicant and that doesn't create the momentum you're looking for truly believe that when you create an interview process utai the interview questions to your corporate is so if i'm bringing in somebody all signed interviewer number one. These four questions and you don't need any more than four questions. I don't need to sit there and grill. Somebody in shock and twenty questions off just train. Somebody how to ask three to four questions and dig under the hood on his. And then we're gonna do is evaluate that person against your core values building a knockout question building a question. They basically if that person is complete unaligned with your core values. Thank them for their time and release them from the process. And then you're creating this interview system. Where based on the data that we got our prescreen. Or what have you. And then based on our interview we have evidence to support either moving forward or not making the higher in a fast. No is usually better for both parties. Absolute right with rare exceptions. Getting fast. no is better than a wilsey because then that applicant gets to move on to places where they are af- at instead of looking at the not even get enough. They just get ghost. Yes if you talked outlook is they're never one complain. I sent my resume. I talked to them. We did a phone screen. Haven't heard anything. And what does that do for your employer. Brand absolutely crushes. It's so easy to say. Hey we're going to different direction. Wish you look. It's not that difficult to have a conversation with the person and most people if you have that conversation does self-select select that anyway. We've all been on a first date that didn't go well. My wife and i met on match dot com and we voted on a lot of days before we found each other and one of my favorite match dot com dates. Didn't make it to appetizers. Like this girl and i we were kids. We sat down. We were talking and match going for you. How's it going for you. We talk waiter came by got drinks. He came back and said hey. Can i get appetizers. And she and. I looked at each other and both simultaneously. We're like no. We don't need appetizers. And i looked said i'll take care of this and she said thank you. I hope it goes well for you. I said oh because well for you and she walked away. And that's one of my favorite dates i've ever been on because it was so equal that we were both like. This isn't the right fit whatever it is find person. I'm sure but we knew it wasn't going to work. And so we both walked away and were able to save the rest of our evening. God that's how you should approach your interview if you're interviewing. Yeah that's how you should approach her interview. If you're the candidate looking for a job so the last thing we do we hire right now. The key to it is when we hire the person using our software. We already touched on the ideas. Then you know how to manage that person. You know what to look for in quarterly reviews. You know what to do in all of that work so that it's not just the recruiting. There's a long tail of value and benefit perfect. So it'd be two or three key takeaways and give the audience that can plug another business today to hire people or if they're looking to connect with customers either way people like people that are like themselves. So you're going to be biased to generate an echo chamber. So you need to know what you have and to recognize that just because someone similar to you. That doesn't mean it's good. That's the main one. Yeah it most likely won't right and to cleanse yourself and to find tools but not exclusive that allows you to externalize that process so you can actually show your work in the more you show your work the easier it is to find flaws and better ways to do things and constantly improve. What you're doing all right. We're just about out of time today. Show scott thanks so much for your time investments today and i want to welcome you to the higher power community now. What would be the best way in which members of our audience can reach. Your two one is our website. Which is cyrano dot. Ai and the other one's c. y. r. a. n. o. So it's like cyrano diversion. Act the guy with the big nose who was good at writing. Poems is a steve martin. Movie cyrano cr. No dot or lengthen. And i'm happy to talk. I i wanna think our listening audience for attending this week's episode of higher power things star team. Brian coburn andrew ballen and eligible The podcast please subscribe review and share. 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'Inside the Oscars': Fashion Statements

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'Inside the Oscars': Fashion Statements

"This episode of inside the oscars is presented by ziprecruiter. Coming up on this episode of inside the oscars we're not just talking about the film's because of course they inspire they inform the entertain the outfits fashion today to be more than just the designer that you're wearing but what does that designed to me. We're going to look back at some of those shows. Stopping red carpet looks from over the years. Plus i am super pumped for this forget the celebrities. I got to talk to the woman who makes all those picture-perfect red carpet moments possible. It's about outlining and taking care of the nominees throughout the entire process that when they go home at the end of the night they think that that was the oscars imagined everybody on ginger zee and we are getting closer. The date of the astor's right around the corner. And you know that means they gotta get the red carpet cleaned and ready to roll out and this time it's happened at l. A.'s famed union station. Of course that's a change of venue so we don't really know what to expect but what else will be different. The nominees will be dressed down. Maybe would they wear sweats hoodies. Could they be with the on trend. Lounge wear look. We don't know but i know that it would be fine and probably fitting the year that we've had. I had to guess though. Somebody's gonna be wearing something super great and glamorous because it's still the red carpet some fashion statements though at least in the couple of years have changed from. Just who are you wearing to. what are you saying. And my friends a norman. She's got a little something on that. Hey hey ginger. Yes so excited. To look forward to all of fashion we will see on the red carpet at the oscars this year. And here to talk about it. All with me is josie stylist extraordinaire joe. So glad that you're here to talk about everything oscars fashion the show's producers. This year called the dress code a fusion of inspirational and aspirational basically meaning. That yeah formal school. If you wanna go there but casual is really not. So what do you think when you hear the words inspirational and aspirational when you're thinking of author fashion. The red carpet is back. That's what i'm thinking. i mean. I think oscar fashion for us especially in the fashion world has always been the super bowl of like you know you have are huge award season. Starting at the beginning of the year and it's sort of really starts to ramp up and ramp up and really reach a climax at the oscars. And this is where everybody's out in full force in couture in one of kind like you're literally and even designers themselves who've made these dresses for these. Starlets do not know if these celebrities wearing it until the door opens from their car and they step out and they see it for the first time and then they can say. My dress is on the red carpet or it didn't make it and i think that's really what it's become think we're already for glitz and glamour and all of that 'voliti again. I think we want to have a little bit of fun. I'm sitting here talking to you and slap hands. But i'm done with them in two thousand nineteen i was like you know what would it be fun to. Just wear sweatpants all the time and now i want to burn. I exactly we all wish for it. So you gotta be careful what you wish for. But that's the thing because even though you know with the oscars award season winding down to a close in some of the award shows that we've already had this year. We have seen some folks dressing down but finding a way to make it fashion. Whether it's the dior pajamas or just something more cosy. So do you think that we will just see folks just going for the high end fashion or could we see some of those more relaxed. Looks well i think we looked at award season this year to see people to rape. I mean you saw you saw that mix of casual informal but as each award event came up. Everybody got a little bit more dressed up. Do i think you're gonna see pajamas on the red carpet. No i think people are really done with that. I mean maybe you'll see the odd person having fun and maybe some guile show up something a little bit more in between casual and thrown over something. And i think that's okay too but are we going to see like jason day. 'cause hoodie no probably not i think i think it'll be fun and somewhat unexpected. But it will definitely be glamorous. After the year that twenty twenty was not only was it of course hallmarked by covid and by soleil solution and all of that but also by activism and so when we're looking ahead to the red carpet for the oscars this year. How do you think celebrities could continue to use their fashion to communicate a personal message or to say something. That's important to them. But i mean. I think you have always seen elements of this through the year. I mean i think all the way back at the very time jane. Fonda is a big proponent of this you know. She's very very opening candidate about her activism but in one thousand nine hundred eighty two she wore a ysl black tuxedo to the oscars to protest the vietnam war. And why why is. I don't know i think the reality is that she wanted to wear something. That was really not your traditional red carpet gown to sort of say. Hey guys this is what's going on. And then you flash forward to twenty eighteen. And you've got time's up and you're asking celebrities to wear black on the carpet and that really sort of changed things too but you know in the nineties. We wore red. Ribbons signify. You know the aids epidemic. And i think now we're gonna see a lot of people really use politics to be reinterpreted in a way for the red carpet and politics today can mean so many different things and certainly yes certain justice movements social justice movements. I think all of that will be amplified in with many ways on the red carpet Because we are living in that. And i think we can ignore that in the fact that fashion today has to be more than just a designer that you're wearing but what does that designer mean. And what does the gown your way represent and one thing that we have seen come up more. And more is the idea of sustainability. And so for instance when someone chooses to re wear a look. What message do you think that they're sending because back in the day that didn't happen. It was almost like taboo but we do see it now. Oh my gosh. I think that is the biggest thing you know. I have to say my favorite remark ever i was on the red carpet at the oscars a while back and george clooney did this and i don't even think you realize that he was even actually sending a trend way back but i think he was. They were asking amal clooney about getting ready and you know getting her dressed together for the oscars and was like. I don't know thirty minutes before the show. I pulled out the tuxedo. The back of my closet. And i put it on and off. We went and in a way. He was being sort of fine and flipping and being very george and really. I think it said two things that said men didn't was held up to the same standards as women. They can just pull out an old tuxedo and be done with it and no one's ever going to criticize them and they wouldn't be. They wouldn't be judged up and down. But i think he was also saying. Hey i shot my closet to actually go. Get a new tuxedo every single time. There's a red carpet and sort of off this level of excess and waste. And i think you saw that sort of casual mark now become a trend. I mean i think last year so walking phoenix. He said he was going to wear one. Stella mccartney tuxedo through the entire season he stuck to his word which i am obsessed with that because it was really about sustainability. He wore designer. That was about being sustainable. Who's working very very hard to make that you know part of her mantra in her designing there is a lot of excess in waste in industry and i think to have designers really sit up and pay attention to that is really great. I mean i think olivia colman also at the twenty twenty oscars was wearing stella mccartney gown that she designed for her but she use sustainable velvet. And i think it's elements of this that starting to come back into what fashion can be like. We're gonna make pretty close a. We're also going to do it with our world. You know on top of mind and even when someone is thinking about what designer who they will wear they can send a message so what did say when someone chooses to wear designer like christian cyrano on the red carpet the designer you choose also sends a message. What the designers that you do choose right now. Stand for a lot of different things. I love that. You said christian syrian. He's an incredible designer. You know he was. He came off a project runway but he has always been the one designer in this industry. That has sort celebrated the underrepresented people who are maybe not your typical fashion plates and he's always been size inclusive and gender nor conforming and all of these things that you feel are not part of the industry. But he's made a part of the industry. So i think when you have a celebrity put on a christian syrian gown. You're literally saying you know what i advocate. What he stands for. I love that e stands for size inclusive of the ice love that he stands for. Everybody is allowed into this fashion game. And i think that i love. We're not just seeing this on the red carpet but even in the political sphere and just other places other examples of using major fashion moments to elevate a certain designer or to take a stand. Oh yeah i've been fashioned now. Taking a global stage. I mean the internet's made everything so much more accessible to us. The world is a lot smaller. Everybody is you know it's everybody as a democratic in that way we're fashion is really for the masses and michelle obama's actually the perfect example from the very beginning. She said i'm going to celebrate. You know young up and coming designers as well as established ones and she had no problem j. crew but she can make someone like jason wu who was not designer. Anyone had heard previous michelle obama a household name and i think there were so many examples of designers like that from america she really celebrated and brought to the forefront and i think politics i mean i was saying earlier. Politics in the red carpet is not just of merged into one. I think you can't separate those things anymore because whatever you do and wherever you are says a lot about you and what you stand for and so heading into this year's oscars thinking ahead to the red carpet fashion advice if any would you give to this year's nominees. I want them to go for it. Just go foreign. Have fun you know. I think i think people are looking to them to to say like you know what i want a little bit escape. I want a little bit of. I think we went through a period. Where an of course. I was part of this but like we're i think celebrities could be a little bit apprehensive because they were so worried about being on the best dressed lists the worst than you know and being classified into one of those things. It's not a monica. That really goes away because it is there that night but every year it's dug up again and and i think it's sort of infamy and i think there is a lot of fear of that but i think now back fear sort of dissipated i think people have wanted to sort of say you know what i'm just gonna do it. I'm just going to have fun. I'm just going to be a little bit fearless. In the way i attack things and like one of paltrow someone that's always been like that and cheese doesn't care really where people say. I think she's always looked incredible on the carpet. So i think that sort of that sort of confidence in and sort of shots really really translates on the red carpet. Now enter joe if you can think back of all. The oscar looks ever ever ever to the beginning of oscar history. What was your favorite look of all time. Really on my. That's not fair to all all time. I mean i mean that's i mean we're talking about grace kelly in her green gown audrey hepburn. I'm i'm always obsessed with share and and barbra streisand stronger than those bob. Macky emmy talking. About digging up the looks. But showing up in sheer close out of the oscars with a headdress like headdress. It's just like everything to me is like wow and of course only share could pull out often. I haven't even really seen again ever. But you know i i look at like and these are classic classic oscar movements but like nicole kidman wearing that dior couture gown that was neon green and trimmed in for an embroidered. Everything on paper. That was wrong about ereck harper. Like she broke every rule and look fantastic. And of course i love julia on her valentino's so so much of course when her pink gown has been you know legendary and holly berry. I mean she when she wants. She looked stunning to Hilary swank the too so you know what i there is. No no because you wanted one favorite all talk. that's fair. yeah lots to look forward to on the red carpet josie. Thank you so much. It's been a pleasure as always. Oh my god thank you. Thank you so much. And i cannot wait to see all the glamour on the oscar harpist. Stay tuned put a nice look down red carpet memory lane meaningful messages behind those fashion choices and today. We'll come back right after this. Are you hiring for spring. What type of roller you're looking for. We'll maybe you need to hire somebody who can wear a lot of hats which can be challenging in itself or you might have a simple position to fill. But it's just taking for ever to find somebody who's a good fit. Well that's ziprecruiter comes in. 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It's always so interesting because you see these things for years on tv. But one thing. I've learned about working in tv. Is that. It's never quite the same. Those camera angles. They they go a long way to make something looking far more like grand and extravagant than it really is. Obviously it was very cool but it was different from the from the moment. I walked into my first tv station. I didn't internship. And i was like oh this is tv but this year specifically and really the last couple of years people finally are saying something with what they're wearing. It's not just who are you saying yes. I think that that's what's so cool about it. And obviously the red carpet is kind of the ultimate place for because there are so many people. But i think that it's it's not only there. It's also at the inauguration or so many different places where fashion take center stage and like you said it is about the message. You know what you're trying to show. What new designer are you trying to give a leg up and help get their name out there So i think that it's so fascinating all of it. Sorry i don't remember. And i should have looked. What were you wearing last year. I do not feel bad gender. It's funny because i had to go back and look it was twenty nine thousand nine hundred. I went and going into this. I'd never covered something like that so i was lost. I got for that event. And one thing that i do know from just being on tv is that i'm always looking for a pop of color So i ended up going with like this kind of reddish or orange strapless dress and it was nice because it wasn't too thais didn't feel like i couldn't breathe but going into it. I had no idea. I was like how over the top should i go like be under dressed. Yes and that's because i think no matter what position you are even if you're smashed between people in a press box. It's a red carpet. How big do i go. I tried on a lot of. Because i never have trouble taking chances and then getting in trouble later like i love doing that and tv news. I'm like oh you didn't like that. Oh oops. Let's go too far so i thought about doing it but then i pulled back because i started thinking about. What do i wanna say. And it was for me sustainability. And i have one brand that i always go to because i've done enough research on who. They are what they are and i think anybody on the outside my friends who are thinking. This is her. Maybe only time ever on a red carpet. that's what she wore. It was not the glam. It was just was. Just simple in me so yeah. It's so funny. Because i actually of course this morning i wake up and i'm rolling on the social media's and i saw that you posted something about sustainability and like it's not just for hippies. It's about like lights survival. Yes i loved it. That is your message because it's so important and the fact that you live that life like gender. I cannot use paper towels without being. Like what would ginger say right now. I've i'm trying. I met this week. Okay so i love that. Sustainability is your message through and through but sustainability. We have to make fashionable. That's what i always say whether it is paper towel choice. Or i'm trying to change my front lawn away from grass into something more sustainable. I'll let you know how the neighborhood watch goes on that one. I know best anyway. So let's get back to fashion the year that you were there. Do you remember any standout dresses. Or maybe guys to the you know the suits. Yeah okay so twenty. Nine thousand nine hundred. It was the year of j.lo's like mirror. Pieced tom for dress soon. That really stuck out. Dna guerrero's a gold look was amazing. It was kind of like a line dress. I think you know i'm not. I'm not quite the fashion myself. But he was the year black panther. So i remember paying attention to her but twenty nineteen hands. Down was the year of billy porter. Oh the tuck stress because he shut down that night like soon as he showed up that was it. That's what everyone was talking about. So if you're talking. Twenty nine thousand nine oscars fashion billy porter billy porter and people say that fashion can be a waste of time and you know all this but at the same time you do say something. So as much as. I love for sustainability. Do i wanna see the same dress every single year. You know i don't. I don't think so so. I do love that idea. And it's like when when tiffany haddish like the first big really expensive dress that she bought and she wore multiple times and it was not only to the point of sustainability but related ability. Because everyone at home it's like oh yeah like you go you wash it or get it dry cleaned and boom of course why would you only wear something one time and the rental ability is really the part that makes it all fine to me like you can say and do whatever you want as long as somebody else were last year like. I'm happy to where. Billy porter tuck dress. I'd be happy to take that on. So i think that's probably maybe that's the compromise or the answer between is let the close say things multiple times for multiple people and like you said the rental clothing market is big and extremely helpful. Extremely well we know it will be different. But i know you're gonna look gorgeous. So what are you wearing. tell us now. And what are you saying with what your wearing well. At least what. I'll say right now is that i don't know i don't know i think part of it is what we've been talking about. I've i haven't consciously thought like. Oh what message do i want. But it's very much like you know not trying to obviously go and bring the bank for address that one time. I certainly would like to wear something. That's been warned before whether it's by ear. Not so i don't know it's so completely up mir i'm not even sure okay. We get our intentions together. It's like the beginning of a yoga class. Yes but yet. It's about fashion. Our intention will be set soon and we will see ginny. Because i know either way no matter what you wear even as the exact same thing with the same here too. You're gonna look so good. Because now i'm remembering the orange red. Donate thank you so much. Thank you ginger. I can't wait to see you in person someday soon. Take so we're going to introduce you to arguably the most important person on the red carpet. Lauren salman lauren. I hope they told you that. You're my big get for this. Podcast like this do it. I did not want a big star. I did not want. Because i really think for anybody who loves the oscars or doesn't know anything about the oscars you're the person we wanna hear from. So tell me like if you were going into a cocktail party. How do you describe your job at the oscars. It depends on what day. Because what i love about. My job is that it changes every day but in terms of the sound bite of what i do. It's it's really about getting everyone in alignment and on the same page to make the production happen. And that's the thing i don't know if people fully understand what it takes to do hours of live tv but it's a lot and it does take a lot of planning and you've done several other types of events from two world cups lot of sports. It seemed like when i was looking in your resume. Would you would you like in this to any of those sports or is an oscars red carpet a sport. All its own. I think you're right. I think it's a sport all onto its own but you know there's a start a starting line and there's a finish line and at the end of the day it really comes down to working as a team to get done. You know it's live. There's a risk to it and it's about being able to respond to what's happening and doing your best to plan but also knowing that you know the best plans might not be the best plans when when showed it comes around so just doing our best to prepare and of course making sure that everyone is safe and making sure that we have fun while doing it. So what would you say would be one of those glowing moments where maybe a surprise happened that. You didn't expect that you're like wow thank goodness that happened. I think you know nothing can can compare to. Once first oscars. I remember. I had come from event planning and my mom was an event planner. So it's like in my bones and studied event management and production in school and being on the red carpet for my first time and realizing the magnitude and the legacy and the importance of the oscars. It's not just the night that were in there. But it's history that you're creating. And i just i remember looking around and i had you know all of these stars that i had i had seen growing up or seen my favorite movies and i'm there and they're all looking at me for direction of where to go and what to do and in that moment i recognize like that that my role and our role as a team is to take care of them and to ensure that this this evening goes as as their wildest imaginations dreams have imagined. I just remember standing there being like okay. You're important you're important. You're an important your important and everyone is a vip that night and so if you go back to that memory of that first time are there certain names that were like oh my gosh. It's so. And so i have an adoration and admiration for ashley thrown. So every time. I see her. I just get a little like. Oh my gosh amazing. But i also recognize the stars are incredible and also the incredible as well because everyone that night is is a nominee and that so exciting you know the fact that their life's work is being recognized. It's an honor to be amongst them. My one time on the carpet was a couple years ago and it happened to be one of those pouring rain l. a. days and this is why i wanted to have you on the podcast because i thought you know you can forecast for so long but it does seem like the oscars has a bit of a rain problem. It has happened more than once. And i got to see the operation and i thought who is running this that they've got the most orchestrated people with sticks pouring the things off the sides. It was really incredible. So congratulations thank you for sure. That's a team effort. And that's pivoting and responding to disaster responding to chaos and prior to getting into production. I was very interested in being in emergency medicine. And one of the things. We learned an emt training was spread. The calm not the chaos. Chaos chaos is contagious. And that's my motto. When it comes to production is to spread the com- how big is the team. I mean your team has to be huge. Just numbers wise. What i saw that day seemed at least in the dozens. I had one hundred. But i'm sure there's more end. The hundreds at aren't that you don't see on the carpet you know. Hundreds of thousands of people work the oscars. And i think that's the thing too. Is you know you you sign up for this job. And there are expectations or any production that you sign up for and you're like okay. This is what is expected of me but on show day it comes to just showing up in your best self and being fully present to respond and be like all right cool. I'm gonna be holding that dress. Oh great i'm going to be the one stitching up that person's dress that broke or whatever like just being able to respond as necessary so at this point we're best friends lawrence so you can tell me anything so i just need a little something a little dirt little like okay even if you don't name a name like what's the one moment where you clutched your heart like. Oh my gosh. i can't believe this is happening. And then what was. How did you make a solution. There's there's so many different moments throughout the years that just add up. And i'm sure you relate to this. But i feel like that. Sometimes there's a bit of production ninja like the week. After i sleep so soundly i look back and i'm like how did i pull off that twenty one day. Yeah how did i do that. Like what was what was the adrenaline that got through from going down to the carpet into the show. Up to the governor's ball to all of the different things that are happening simultaneously that day with seven people talking in one year twenty people talking in the other year. The most famous person you've ever seen asking for your help. You know that moment that. I was mentioning before i had shirley's thrown and jennifer lawrence and they were hugging and all these people wanted to walk by. And just stop there hugging. It's such a great moment. He's like they're hugging. Having a great moment they're having a sister moment. Don't interrupt it. I always think that we do a two hour. Live program every morning on good morning america and i always give the biggest accolades to our director because i think about what she does. Daily in the number of moving parts on a regular show pre covid was wild and speaking of this year for the carpet. It is different. I mean you're not gonna. We're not gonna have the that i saw. It's not the same setup right. It's it won't be the same setup and it won't be the oscars that people you know. No but i think that is also exciting. Because it's going to be different. And i think over this year if it's taught me anything as someone who has lived and breathed production for over fifteen years. This year was all about adapting. How do we change. How do we pivot. How do we innovate. And it's honestly what i think is so magical about the production community is. This is what we've been designed to do. I imagine too. It's not like we're going to see physical we're not going to see a pirelli's stance around like hand sanitizer here in the middle of carpet. Are you going to be like have one of those waitressing belts and then just double fisted parral for people like how does that part work and are we going to see any of that while we're watching well two things you need to know about me because we're besties gun is. If i wear a dress. I will have the deepest pockets. Ever seen with my walkies and everything in them. But i'm notorious for wearing my knee high black boots underneath my dress that have my cell phone and my pure l. and my wife's everything ready girl scout style right underneath the no one can see it underneath the gown that i wear. But i think this year it's gonna be about safety and safety is first those pure l. stands they're going to be available but maybe not in the shot but definitely available to everyone and making sure that everyone is a safe as possible when i worked in weddings of for a very long time for almost a decade as i was getting into tv in prior to Doing what i do. Now as even fifteen bussing tables at weddings and big ones right. So i think there has to be some like you said event. Planning this is just happens to be the biggest wedding out there. One hundred percent. And i think you nailed the nail on the head wear i prior to production. I've done plenty of weddings and this is just you know weddings for two hundred fifty people of your life the most famous people and everyone and they're all the bride exactly everyone's the bride and anything can happen. Yeah do you try to emulate the wedding planner jennifer lopez character. That's what i think about every time to like i think about you now. Have you with a little walkie and a little. Mike and i'm like obviously that's who she plays was not an oscar film. However it's actually really funny. My my fiance and i met at a wedding. I was the wedding planner and he was the wedding singer. And so i often say you know. I'm jay leno right. Yes you're one hundred. Glad that worked out. You probably are so particular with your napkin. Perfect like cartoon. We are best friends for one. Other reason in this has nothing to do with the oscars. This year. i'm meteorologist. I love the atmosphere. I do stories for the last twenty years on climate change environment and you are huge into sustainability. Is that something that you take into. Account for every production including the oscars as much as i. Can you know my when i was in college. I studied production. And i got a second degree in conservation. Resource management by area of study was. What is it taken. What does it cost the environment for us to be entertained from a production standpoint. There's so many factors to consider so if we're able to just do one one change great if we can do another change in the next year. Great i think when it comes to sustainability overall. It's it takes time. It takes education. And i'm super proud of what the academy continues to do. And to incorporate from a sustainability standpoint You talked about forecasting. And that's what you do. That's essentially what we as. Production people do is were professional forecasters. We don't have the clouds in the sky and we're trying to forecast future and forecast production that hopefully will make people smile and laugh and celebrate things that they love when they're at home. Do you have any pre show rituals like okay. I have to meditate for twenty minutes. I have to get you know. Do you have any of that now. That you've been doing this long to okay. One is the night before the red carpet. I go down with my coordinator and there's no one on the carpet and it's completely still talk down on the carpet and just look up and it's still and it's quiet and typically we're on hollywood boulevard and there's like this hum of electricity the hub of the city looking up at the sky and i've done it for the past nine years and it's the best. It's just that calm before the storm but hopefully there's no storm and that's what i do the night before and my day of ritual is again in those moments before before the excitement again now the stands are full. The fans are there. The camera setup doing their last live hit. Everyone's in position. And i walked down to make sure all the press is locked in before i tell my colleague were all locked in and ready to go and that moment where you feel the gears of production. Just lock near like here. We go and i love that moment of just walking down and doing my best to make eye contact with all of our colleagues olive are security guards all of the press. That's there to all work together. And make this this incredible show possible and i walked the end and i just go to the front of the seven repeat were ready. And if anyone on april twenty fifth sees a woman with black boots to her knees and address over them with pockets. You'll know it's lauren. I am so happy. I got to meet lauren. And if you're like you're going to be looking for her on that red carpet on oscar sunday. 'cause she tries to stay out of the camera but hey if she's fix an address or she's getting somebody some pure l. You know those deep pockets and her address are going to come in handy. I'm looking for the black boots to all right so we do have one more episode before the big night. Don't miss it. Because chris kelly jason gina and i all come back together. They're gonna share their expert analysis. They're hot takes as we go into the big night. And i promise it will help you watch the oscars with a lot more. You know information but also a lot more fun and if you like this episode give him some love five star rating. Maybe adding a little nice review. Oh thank you anyway. It'll mean a lot to us. Thank you so much for listening inside. The oscars is a production of abc audio produced by matt wolf. Our executive producer. Liz alessi special banks to josh cohen. Trevor hastings john. Green taryn hartman. Beth mullen kerry strasbourg elizabeth brousseau. 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431. Amanda and Sarahs Q&A Part Deux: Silly Bugaloo

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431. Amanda and Sarahs Q&A Part Deux: Silly Bugaloo

"Hello and welcome to episode number 431 of smart podcast trashy books. I'm Sarah Windle with me is Amanda and we are back with more questions from our patreon community. We have questions about books but romance covers about food, of course, we're talking about food and we have some strong opinions. I especially have strong opinions and thoughts. There is much silliness. Thank you again to the Patriot Community for providing the very silly much-needed wonderful questions for this episode. I hope you have been enjoying these episodes as much as we have and I want to send a special hello to Nicole and to her cats. Chloe and Mally. Hey y'all. How you doing? This episode is brought to you by hello fresh America's number one meal kit. I am pretty thrilled to add. Hello fresh to our weekly menu because the recipes are incredibly easy. 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So start small today ritual is offering my listeners 10% off your first three months. Try it out science satisfaction guaranteed go to Ritual.com forward slash Sarah to start your ritual today. That's 10% off your first three months at ritual.com at the end of this episode. I will have a terrible joke in the show notes. I'll have links to everything we talked about but now let's get started with part two of our silly Q&A featuring me and Amanda. Nice hair. It's it's called pineappling. We it has a name. Yeah, it's so when you have curly hair already, you're speaking my language. I don't like when you have curly hair for like the curly girl method or whatever. Just they don't want you to sleep on your curls. So one other do you hang upside down like a bat? I do just what I wanted to know. So like some of the suggestions are like sleep on a satin pillowcase and get a a silk scarf and wrap it around your head would be very hot. I'm not going to do that if I wrapped my hair it would be very warm. So one of the suggestions is called pineappling where you essentially gather all of your hair on top of your head like the leaves of a pineapple juice the part you're laying on is the back part and not like all of the curls. I'm a pineapple looks very very comfortable with just means like this is my sleep hair and I haven't done anything with it since I woke up. I finally like seven hours ago. Why should you? And I also before the Stream. Pre-ordered the ultimate Assassin's Creed Edition cuz I was like, you know what fuck it. I'm going to treat myself you sure did get the ultimate pack and so it's pre-ordered and there is a countdown on my TV currently. That's like Assassin's Creed Valhalla is launching in like ten hours and 15 minutes or whatever. Where did you order? Did you order it through Steam? No, I got it. See I prefer playing those games on my PlayStation. Oh, so yeah. I have a PS4. So, it's ready to go when the clock strikes midnight. That is awesome. I'm so excited. This is going to be like your whole Thanksgiving week, right? Yeah, this is all I'm going to do all I'm going to do and that's okay. I think that's brilliant. So are you ready? Are you ready for round two of questions? Yes. Did you take a look I sent these earlier cuz these are immediate is there a little bit more thoughtful. Let me go back to the document but I do feel like some of these are going to create responses that for me will be for my my responses would be heavily opinionated. Yeah, strong opinions about some of these there are some that are like, oh, I don't know how to answer that one. But there are some that's like easy peasy got app. So our first question again, I have work going on outside my window. So yeah the landscapers our guest starring in this episode. Hi landscaper. My my backyard looks like something good very often our what is your favorite and least favorite type of romance book cover and I am asked some of the people who ask these questions in the thread on patreon to answer. Of course. I'm a bad podcast off my phone on bad hold on professional podcasting professional here. I know totally forgot to turn off my phone. All right, very enamored of my least fave is starting to become these historical romance covers where you can tell they do not want to be there and I know exactly what they're talking about like the position where like the ladies like dead. And they look very serious and I guess they're kind of going for adversarial but mostly they just look really unhappy to be there. Yeah, I know exactly what kind of cover they're talking about. But I really don't have strong opinions on uncovers. I mean I do we do see a lot of goofy ones for cover snark doctor nips and like I do the books long. Do I look at a lot of weird covers that like our part of you know books on sale newsletters that I subscribe to but I don't think a cover has ever deterred me from picking up a book. A cover has made me pick up a book, but I've never looked at a kind of be like a ooh, I don't know about that. Yeah, I've never had a cover make me go. I'm not reading this. I'm so mad because I also I also know about how the sausage is made. No pun intended. Yeah, the cover is decided on by people who've often have very little to do with the intricate development of the book inside of it. The cover is marketing. It has a different job than the book down south. I know a lot of people have opinions on Illustrated covers cuz often it can be as like a lightness that might not be found in the Cover Orange book. Yes, but as someone who works in a bookstore I can tell you that the traditional clinch covers do not sell with people looking to pick up romances young people will buy romances that have huge see Illustrated covers not photography covers with a hero and heroine embracing on them like those do not sell at home. In the independent bookstore, I work at do you know why that is is it because that image of romance is outdated with that buying audience that makes sense that mean I get it. I have tried to page him sell a Tessa dare with a consumer. Yeah, and some was like, oh I can't read this in public places literally said that to my face. I'm like why not? Wow and they're like, well just look I was like nobody cares. That's a great book. She didn't buy it. She bought some other romances like more cake Claiborne The Illustrated. Yeah The Illustrated cover over comes off at all for the buyer who sees the the the clinch image of people there are purists out there who were like anti Illustrated wage, but I'm of the I know this is not the question that was asked but I'm of the opinion that if it gets more people interested in Romance and it gives like the foot Into the Dead. Foot in the door, then they might consider picking up a romance that has a clinch cover. You know, it's it's less scary for whatever reason but for me, that's why a kills it when it comes to good covers. Oh there aren't there aren't Direction and they're artists are so talented. I love a shiny element on a first like a sign like a foil off. Yeah. Yeah don't see that. I romance but I love a shiny element but romance covers, you know, I look at bad ones all the time. That's a lot of those people emailed them to us by The Bushel. Sweet, Carol. Oh, Carol, Carol desktop folder of them and she will send us like he's just a big old bushel of them was timely a bushel of peppers. And like I also know that like the cover sometimes isn't really indicative of birth. What you're going to get either cuz we have people who look at cover snark and go find the books on Amazon and like this actually sounds really good and the Black cover stock moves box. Yeah, everything that's books. Every every this is the thing. I wish I could just sit down and explain to authors one you and your book are not the same thing and I know you're intimately connected with the book but you and your book are not the same. And so if we give a dog a low-grade a negative grade A negative comment to a book a it's not about you. It really isn't these are very separate things for us number 2 in F review will sell books review will suck bucks and I review will sell books. They will sell books because I promised there is someone who's like, oh, I love all of those things one. Click buy it is the same in Reverse as when you see somebody go. Oh this book had way too much sex in it and like hack romance, cuz I'm sorry. What was the title again bill that for me? So one of my least favorite things on a cover is inappropriate clothing off. Or the setting that they are in I'm still like a historical and she's wearing like an eighties prom gown or like stop being shirtless in the snow or a fighting a fire. You're going to get you're going to die fight on your nips. I think it was featured in coverage. There was a contemporary Romance by aiming Andrews that was recently on sale and the guy has like a flannel and a jacket and a comfy blanket and I'm like, this is what I'm here. The guy is seasonally appropriate and brought me a blanket shirtless in this snow. Are you kidding me? Like no one's wearing gloves or a hat or if she's nothing so and I just have to think like I don't know like New England Winters can get bad but like Midwest Winters. Oh, yeah, those are both places where if you've done the the weather will kill you. I know a lease says she's got a car blanket when it gets yeah. Oh, yeah, so that's one thing that reads like grinds. My gears is like put a jacket on I do not have specific things that I can point out as favorites like you it's sort of like, oh that that looks interesting. Oh, that's fine. But I see the covers such a separate element from the book inside. Like I know what the cover is trying to do and I know it's different from what the book is trying to do, but I will say I really hate young man chest. I hate Ripley AB naked man covers. I really don't like them. They do nothing for me. I and I and I hate them for a number of reasons. I am strong opinion time. I think that it fetishizes male anatomy in a way that is a disservice to humans General. I look at that and I think okay. I know what you have to do to maintain that physique and that does not leave enough time for you to do anything except work out eat eggs and not have a romance like the amount of time you have to spend building that physique is substantial. I don't like the accusation that romance gives people unrealistic emotional expectations, but I do think that the preponderance of extremely hypertrophy Dodge Charger and extremely thin women on the covers is unrealistic expectations and it per in it and it perpetuates this idea that there's only a very certain visual standard that gets happy and I do not like the shirtless covers. So there is My Strong opinion on your soapbox. I will climb off my soapbox and shut the hell up now because it's just me. I mean, I know people love a good shirtless cover a name. Just like a shirtless cover won't necessarily keep you from reading the book either just like that's what we're doing. And I know I like oh, look, there's another guy with a shirt open but it's still tucked in cuz that's how I roll here. And then I just go to page one. And if I'm reading digitally which most of the time I am, yeah, I don't even see the color and sometimes the galley doesn't have a cover. Sometimes the cover as a tool for me too. Badly. Remember what the book is and that's its job. I also I will say I love shirtless man covers don't bother me, but if said shirtless man has chest hair. Oh gosh Double Take because like that's a good point. We usually see because usually they're smooth like a baby dolphin, you know slip slide right off of it. Yeah, they do often have a have a Sheen to the pet and like is it oil is it's wet. What is this slickness here? Um, but yeah, I take more notice because it's not the norm. Yeah, I would love it if it like matched the inside where there is literally the hero it's just a guy who never wears a shirt number. I'm sorry what you see is what you get no shirt at any time. It's a clothing. He lost his shirts in a horrible fire and he's on a quest for new shirts. That's why he's in the snow. We lost his shirt. He's lost his all of his shirts. That's a tragic backstory is like bespoke shirts. He lost his shirt his shirt allergy. It's like when I change girls clothes in which are I took off his shirt. It's like whoa home and just run around and fight demons like that. Why don't you All right, Ashton, T would like to know what ROM, would you most want your life to be like or what and what non rom-com movie action heart et cetera. Would you like to see redone with romantic elements Ashton suggestions are She's the man for the rom-com cuz you've gotta love mm. It was that's a very good movie. I enjoy it. That's a good one and off Syfy movie where they there could be more romance, especially Serenity or Firefly and would also like to point out that there are no noses on their smilies off. So my favorite rom-com of all time though, I would not want my life to be like, this is She's All That with Rachael Leigh Cook and Freddie Mac jr. I love that movie that movie. I can quote the movie. So good r i p Paul Walker who's in there. None of them look like high schoolers at all know what kind of High School is this there's a weird dance number in the middle of Promise Usher DJ. Like they all all all of the school learned this dance and then performs it it's so weird and if she has the classic takes her glasses off walks down the stairs and a tight red dress and so she does fall cuz she doesn't have her glasses on so yeah, that is my favorite wrong, But if I could pick what I would want mine to be like I thought about this and I'm like, let's go full Bonkers. Oh, I love when you go full bunkers or make a good choice and pick and chanted with Amy Adams and Patrick. Oh, what a good choice the man from a storybook just burst into my life. He can see and commune with like little cartoon birds every day for him is a musical. That's what I would pick. I once made a list of my favorite rom-coms and then I realized that I have a late 80s collection a mid-90s collection and then a 2000s collection. Well, there's there like the little clusters right? Yes. They are. So I love the movie Roxanne with Daryl Hannah and Steve Martin and it says Cyrano de Bergerac retelling Shelley Duvall is in it off is so cute and adorable. And the thing I like the most about it is that they're all Hannah has moved to this small town in the Northwest because she's astrologer a strong strong. No astronomer. Gosh, Sarah astronomers timer Stars astrology is the horoscopes and always cross those in my brain. Thank you. She is astronomer and she has potentially discovered a comet but she has to find it and document and can't tell anyone. So she's a little secretive. And she has this big ass telescope that she has to carry up to the Widow's walk. And so of course Steve Martin's character helps him but you might have seen the pictures. It's the one where Steve Martin has the really big nose. Yeah. It's a Cyrano de Bergerac exactly off and he is very funny in that whole thing about his nose like he gets really pissed off but then learns to accept himself because she likes him. It's so Charming. I love that one. I would be okay with that one. What movie would you want to be redone with romantic elements? I don't know if there's one I'd want to be so the Old Guard I loved I loved there's not the in Explicitly stated romance like the main character. I can't remember her name. It's like I think it's our something Andy Andy, I think it's over was Charlize Theron. It is alluded that she's had like relationships with other people, but I would have she kicked such as I would have liked to see some smooching in that movie off while she's kicking ass. So I think that's that's a good choice. Yeah. That's what I would pick think I can find the Romantic elements in anything. Like there are shows that I only watch because I I know that there's going to be like smooching I would rather but like I like overtly romantic elements like do not be big with me just like beat me over the head with her. Like that's what I can't I don't watch that much action or horror. So I don't really have an answer cuz off there isn't much that I that I watched that I know where where there's not much that I watch where there's no element at all like even walk in terms of horror. I watch movie Ready or Not, which was so good and my like romantic brain envisioned like a different ending. I don't want to spoil it for anyone but answer this one there could have been like a really sweet. romantic ending I think to the movie, but the way it ended was lovely to like I don't have any complaints about the movie. It was a lot of fun but there is like this really tender am seeing like, oh that would have been sweet. So that's another one. But like I said both both the Old Guard and Ready or Not were good. I don't feel like it was missing anything. So but, you know more smoking improves things more smooching all the time. I get it. I mean good thing. I work in Romance Jacqueline as wants to know what romance job do you think is underrated and why Jacqueline's answer for this question was there's only one bed is my forever and always favorite, but obviously it's popular for a reason underrated Trope letter writing and off to Larry romance can confirm hard so up. So that is my favorite because it feeds into what is my overall favorite Trope, which is When two characters become their honest real flawed selves with each other and the reason that they do that is somehow put on a fast-track like we're fake dating and we home attend to know each other or there's writing letters and no one's going to see them but you are writing texts and no one's going to see them but the other person like that is my absolute favorite. I love it. And I I completely agree. I'm writing epistolary romance notes on Post-it notes text messages. Once I don't care what Sapp whatever. That's that's my thing. What about you? So I feel like there's only one bed bath Trope became like my FanFiction staple. I think I would only read fanfic that had there's only one bed Trope, but I feel like the one that I enjoy aren't underrated. I love enemies to lovers. But a lot of people like that, I don't think it's like niche. So, I don't know. I don't think I have like an underrated one there pretty common ones that I enjoy there are ones that I think are overrated. Yeah, like I've talked I think Second Chance romances and friends to lovers are boring. They're like ants not enough Stakes for you. Whereas those are some of my favorites because it's who was I then and who am I now? But see I think you like more if you like more sexual chemistry and some external conflict. Yes, I prefer external. I like internal conflict which makes sense. Well, yeah and the space is horny podcast episode we did was like I want a romance where it's like if we beg the world is going to implode like that's that's the level of Jake's I want like, you know, if we kiss some weird prophecy will be fulfilled and you know about black hole is going to open up and just rip apart the universe really cannot be together. It would be very bad, but I still have feelings in my pen. Yes. Yep. Yeah and it so I don't I I also I do love a pairing of like Sunshiny one and grumpy one, but I also feel like that's popular. I don't think I have like an underrated one. All right, Jaclyn has has two more questions, Okay in the middle. We have a food question. Okay food question. What strong opinions do you have about popular foods, like pizza or baked potatoes pineapple or no barbecue sauce? No cheese vegetables allow. What are your strong opinions about popular foods? I will eat any and all pizza. I am a human garbage can if there are topics that I don't want their money really pick off mobile. So a black olive is not going to get in the way of me getting my cheesy car be delicious goodness. For some reason pepperoni makes me ill and even if it's cooked on the pizza and then removed that will make me so sick. So I have to move my favorite. I have to avoid pepperoni. Meanwhile, we have like a five pound bag of birth. Only in our fridge because we put it on mail it from Max and we put it on the pizza for the kids. They're like little tiny like grease cups. These are the ones that actually cut off like that when you cook them the curve up like little Taylor pork roll see edges and the little like well of Greece love it and then baked potatoes do people have strong opinions about baked potatoes know I'm an everything-but-the-kitchen-sink baked potato person like chives sour cream. Oh, yeah bacon just I have all that shit on their life come to terms with the fact that cruciferous vegetables and I do not get don't know what the hell that means. So Christopher's like broccoli brussel sprouts cauliflower. Okay? No, I am one of my favorite news things that I saw on the internet that I want to make into a cross stitch for myself is if cauliflower can become Pizza you can become anything like that is a very hopeful statement and I can log Handle a cauliflower pizza crust, but broccoli, I just tastes bitter and weird and it makes me ill and brussel sprouts made me think I was gonna die. Like I could just watch them broccoli cheese soup low amount So speaking of cauliflower crust one of seventies co-workers came over to trim Stephanie's hair and said like, oh, I'll get some like snacky things and all like feed you and so Stephanie got like a cauliflower crust pizza like you put in the oven she goes she put it in the oven and discovers. She just bought a cauliflower crust. She's just bought the crust not a pizza. It was just incredible like well, I don't know what to do with this. Did you walk in and be like, let me introduce you to cheese I wound up using it and putting a bunch of like cheese, but she's all over it. Yep. We make homemade pizza. I usually make a cauliflower crust because too much carbs plus Sarah is bad times. I love I made this thing one time but like a cauliflower steak. Those are really good. You take a look a head of cauliflower when you talk a big thick. Yeah. I've had roasted cauliflower cauliflower doesn't always site tastes bitter as long broccoli tastes like bitter metal to me. It's weird. I just have to accept this about myself. I mean, let's all be honest broccoli and brussel sprouts brussel sprouts smell like farts off doing and my God the gas they give me I brussel sprouts made me think I was dying. It's like fart in fart as it's just watching my abdomen swell up and I'm in pain and I'm like, oh my God what's happened to be of time? Is it the brussel sprouts? And then I looked up. Oh, yeah. Yeah, bustle Sprouts will kill you but I do like pineapple on Pizza, which I know is divisive. I will have a barbecue Pizza not my favorite song. Taco pizza real good taco pizza, like a a Mexican pizza, but it's like that weird. Like it was like a lunch that we would have at the cafeteria in high school was like the weird like octagonal Mexican pizza. I feel like people know what I'm talking. Oh, yeah, it's totally the school food lunch. Yeah, but like I pretty much like no taco pizza best taco pizza I've ever had. Was it a pizzeria in Morgantown West Virginia when I worked in a summer camp there and we would go in and get the taco pizza and it was regular pizza cheese some shredded cheddar Taco beef burger. I see stuff spicy stuff on top vegetables more cheese tomatoes and shredded lettuce and some corn chips on top of courtship. Ho Lee fuk with a good and you know, there's a lot of lettuce so you could pretend that it was marginally healthy it was so oh and hot sauce all over it. I was visit my dad the one who died of where the summer we would always get pizza from this place called Antonio's and I think Miramar Florida we'd always get a pepperoni and onion and my favorite place. To this day is pepperoni and onion and we'd also get a spinach pizza which I thought was so good. It's like a white pizza with spinach and like lots of cheese is it's really good. I do have a strong opinion and proud of this is also because these also make me very very sick no clams on Pizza. No, no muscles. I'm allergic to them by valves. They will make me hella sick, but no clams on Pizza. I don't eat seafood. I guess this is fine so we can go out and not have clamps you speak to that's fine. I don't think like I'm a picky eater like I don't eat seafood because it's like a texture thing and you know, there are certain. Like I don't like all lives but I'm not going to gag if I have a not like if an olive sneaks in somewhere. Yeah, I'm pretty like flexible when it comes to pizza and potatoes like it's like yeah, you could you know put fucking motor oil on it. I'll give it a side. All right. I have a question from class. I have two questions from Cleo and one if you could describe your favorite romance Trope as a drink, what would it be or dark and stormy? Yeah, you're right. I will be a light and stormy that was easy or or I could be a a bee's knees. Yeah, which is some bathtub gin and honey syrup and lemon. Or if you could describe your favorite hero as a takeout dinner, what would they be notches? Heroic nachos. Yeah, crunchy crunchy or creamy favorite food cheesy spicy. Yeah, I can see it layers layers, you get like little pockets of like, oh goodness. Yep, like some some nacho bites some sometimes you could have chip and there's nothing on it. And sometimes you get a trip and it has everything on it. Yep. So thought Rose that's a really good answer. Thank you. You're right. But you gotta eat it all in one sitting cuz reheating nachos never knows. It doesn't work there no longer crispy. It's just not going to work. You can't let them sit if I could have my favourite hero a takeout dinner. What would it be? I think I would have to answer. Pizza pizza pizza. Yeah, because you can you can what you want with a Cheesy and you can put what you want on them. You can make them spicy. You can make them Savor. You can make them Briny you can add pineapple. It's customizable. So by favourite hero would probably be he's with prosciutto olives caramelized onions feta and do you want to you want to reschedule for a hero's what completely customizable? No, I just like salty and bryony. Basically my favorite salty brine salty. Bring pizza know I like I like slightly grumpy Heroes. Yeah, and I also like why like emotionally fluent Heroes and I like them slightly on the grumpy side. Like I like both of us who are mellow and happy but I also like Heroes that are like hm. Leave me alone. I like a little misanthrope. So but that that fits at them very kind very thoughtful very very intelligent really wants everyone to leave him the fuck alone. Okay, I can really all right Carolyn H. Not sure if you've been asked this already, but if you're running from a burning building, what's the one book you have to grab a reader's not included? I've made a joke in my head and I I was going to say my MacBook Carolyn's answer is says Carolyn says in the end, I would grab Shel Silverstein Where the Sidewalk Ends is Within Reach on my bookshelf and was a favorite when my kids were younger now, I don't have that many books in my house anymore because when we moved there were so many books where I'm like I own this digitally I'm not paying someone to move it across several Street lamps that's just silly. So all of my books fit in this little section in my closet, like there's not that many the book that I would grab that is in a fiction book would probably be my wedding album or one of the kids albums where I have baby pictures, but they were born in 2005 and 2007. So there were digital pictures. My wedding is mm. I don't have as many digital images of that so I might grab my wedding album Cuz my dog is in it and it talks to I mean that's important. Yes. He was a 7-pound Maltese any were a tux even you didn't come to the wedding the wedding was on a boat. He was home with a dog sitter but a fiction book that I would grab. Gosh, that's I still don't have an answer like I mean like as a look in the closet like as reviewers get a lot of it we get a lot of books off. Yeah, and so like forming an attachment to a book is hard. All right, I have an answer. Okay. I just stood up and looked at my closet to see what I've got in there first choice have hard copies of all my own books, but I would not grab those that's funny world. They're good know. I would grab my three armed copy of castles in the air by Christina. Because she's got three hands of them idea. How much work I think it done if I have an extra arm. So productive. I don't know if I would get extra work done with that arm. But yeah, I grabbed my three armed copy of that one cuz you know, it's not it's harder to find. I don't know what I would get. I don't have like any rare books. I do have a copy of The Phantom Tollbooth that oh, I had signed Ed Norton by the author Norton juster who came to the BCL? He's like old as dirt. So I was signed copy of The Phantom Tollbooth. That's a good choice to grab. Yeah. I mean like the rest easily replaceable. Yes, I grab my wedding album. It's not easily. Replaceable. Yeah, I have one. Look this goes back to the question from the first episode about what piece of clothing. Can you throw away, but you can't wear so that very same boyfriend gift means one of his favorite books, which was a very short book called. We we by his am I attend which is a dystopian novel. One of the first of Sofia novels is published in June nineteen twenty s Russian author was like exiled but he gifted me this copy and he like made all these notes and there's like stuff and like marginalia and long lines and it was just like a such a personal lovely gift. Yeah, and I don't know like I still have it and it's like sentimental and no one's ever given me a similar gift before so maybe I would take that. I don't know but yeah, most of my books whatever I would have that do. Do, you know where he is now? So last I heard. He was being a bit of like a nomad. He doesn't think we talked last year. He lives like I don't always like I don't like to stay still so it's like so I pretty much like move around and I travel and like live in other countries for like a few months and whatever that was before. But if something that's small that I have strong opinions about all the things that I would put on a postage stamp or already on postage stamps like Mister Rogers dragons, right Toothless the dragon put him on postage stamp. This is to this might be too new for everyone. But Alex Trebek. Oh, that's a good one. Although, you know, Canada might fight you over that one. Come on Kennedy box. Solid. He actually you know, what we could do a special postage between the u.s. And Canada for male Just Between the u.s. And Canada have Alex Trebek on it. He's been be so cute. I'd also like the like Twee part of me. I would I'm sure they're out there but like little stamps of like baked goods. Yeah, I love a little cake on a home stadium cupcakes. Yeah. I I remember the stamps. I got over the summer that Adam got it at Union Station were scratch and sniff. Oh and they were like popsicles and can be but you could scratch and sniff them. I was delighted to use them. They made me so happy those are adorable. Yeah, and then something small that I have opinions about and we talked about my my resistance to the words emails boxed set which doesn't really matter in the entire universe. I quit something that's going to like pull my red handle. Really I I feel like I have little small things, but I they don't get transferred until like it happens. This is a tough one because like there's things that piss me off. What's yours? Okay, so I I think I have gotten it off now Boston. There's a lot of walking and so you have to share of a sidewalk. One thing. I hate hate is a group of people who walk three or four across don't go to Disneyland and get stuck between 1/8 why the stroller party and I'm like, where do you want me to go? Cuz you like you can move. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm a single file for like a hot fucking second, please that bothers me and they're just like chatting away like, oh my God. All right places to be something small that I have strong opinions about but it's very personal to me. So buzzed the dog who is anxious and takes a dose of Prozac for like three hundred fifty pound male. He's extremely reactive to other dogs. He is terrified of other dogs, except his brother. It doesn't matter if that dog was two and half pounds. He's he's terrified put your motherfuking dogs on motherfuking leashes unless you are in a motherfuking dog park put a leash on your fucking dog. I don't care if your dog is the slowest moving most gentle wonderful dog. I am glad that you have a great dog. My dog is convinced that he's off to kill you my dog. Whatever your dog is my dog thinks that it's going to die. And that is me with two dogs two leashes one panicking dog the other dogs, like what's going on. Can I pee on it? And it's harder for me and I can always put your motherfuking dog on a motherfuking leash, please. Thank you. That's the end. It's they're yeah. All right. Jane wants to know if you had to name an additional reindeer for Santa would be scooter. I thought about this one and I'm like, I want a reindeer named scooter one who is just goofy as fuck off. I don't know if you remember the meme where it's like all but like the pack of wolves and then you have Moon Moon feel like an idiot. So like a Derpy Hooves in Friendship is Magic. I just want like an idiot reindeer like such a goofy name and you like Nixon and rude off and, a scooter. Yeah Hooters bringing up the rear. I want one named 5-ish, which is a Yiddish name. 5 ish you remember like a Hobbit named it does do you do you remember do you ever watch Picket Fences? And there was the know there was what else was there was there was a Yiddish theater actor who had a television career. His name was five-ish Finkel. That's like a children's entertainer. I know right? Yeah, I would name it 5-ish one because it's Yiddish. And so therefore there be a little Sonica representation to 5 there should be like, where are you going with you doing that? What? What is that? No, that's not the way go know you're taking the wrong route. You're going to get stuck in traffic scooter is just happy to be here. Yep. I bet scooter at 5 ish. We get along our router and fiber scooter. That's a that's a sitcom way to have Reindeer movie. Never eaten, Carol M wants to know if you were a pack or a knee and would you prefer to walk around on your own or be pushed around in a doggy carriage or rolling thrown Carriage? No hands down. I'm jealous of kids. I just like kids who are asleep in their strollers and like do you know what happens when you get older kids? You have to walk. I want one of my biggest regrets in my life is just passing and all the Naps that people were forcing me to take off. Yeah, I think I should have taken advantage of that nap time. I wish I could nap. I'm probably going to nap right after this good plan. Yeah, scooters scooters all the way. All right KHS to which do you prefer Hocus Pocus or Nightmare Before Christmas this bogus with Emma and I my friend and I we were talking about this on a previous twitch stream and Emma loves The Nightmare Before Christmas and we were talking about and like yeah, it's a good movie. But Sally is really the star of a show and Jack's a fucking idiot. Yeah, the ruins everything and everyone else, you know, if this goddamn Mass, yep, Boca spoke, come on that Midler Kathy Najimy. Come on. I'll just focus Hocus Pocus, but I don't have strong feelings about either one. Like people feel about nightmare about Christmas the way they feel about like Disney they get super into it. Like it's a whole and this is Disney, right? But like, you know people who decorate a hardcore can get really into the tchotchke industry surrounding Nightmare Before Christmas. I see a lot of Nightmare Before Christmas cross-stitch patterns stickers that kind of thing. Yeah found the musical number where they're at the Halloween party and the matter. So good. All right, Kate's other question, why are beta Heroes amazing? Well and in the wrong and it is not like them, I think that the answer is that there is a long long his strong opinion time get ready. And this is my private soapbox. There is a long history of romance back in the day that fetishized men having feelings The Awakening of a feel in a man was considered something that was fetishized in my opinion in a lot of ways and I don't think romance is really fully grappled with the way in which it can fetishize aspects of what I consider toxic masculinity. I see a lot of Alpha Gyros as a secure and I see the idea that a feeling being threatening is not something I want to pair up romantically with so I am not a fan of the character who is threatened by normal human emotion. I understand that normal human emotions are super fucken annoying I get it. I got my own set, but The idea that the answer must be anger and destruction is is a total turnoff and I think for me Bata Heroes work because they are often emotionally fluent comfortable and caretaking roles comfortable in not asserting dominance, but I also find that intellectual curiosity and competence are a dominance of Their Own Kind. So interestingly enough, I think in terms of like Heroes what I'm being so opinionated is not normal the point. Yeah. I know how long I would say Eric is like beta light. He's not like uber masculine and so like in my personal life sure, but also like I don't know. I feel like I have to I've been the caretaker of people and of myself that it feels uncomfortable having someone else take that role. Maybe I should talk to my therapist about this next week. I get it. I mean Adam and I are both oldest children were both extremely independent and we're both really interested in just taking care of our shit and you know, leave us alone, but We still negotiate taking care of each other and we've been together for a really long ass time, but we will still set terms of taking care of each other or calling each other on on their birth. Their bad habits are habits that are destructive and the ways in which we negotiate caretaking come up a lot. I mean one of us is sick. It's one thing but like when the kids were little we would say, okay, I'm primary on this kid your thoughts on that kid. So if there's a problem and this is when they were like needing care all the time if there was a problem that would be the person who would answer that that problem at one point Adam has my minor surgery and he really doesn't like being taken care of and Alex stood up and said, I'm primary on dad go to bed Dad. I'm programmed dad. I was so young Charmed. I was so Charmed because I was anticipating a royal battle, but you really can't argue when your kid is like go to bed and the kids have done that to me. They both been like all right moms tired you guys can clean up Passover dinner going to bed. Come on, Mom. You're going to bed. Like, I'm sorry. I'm being escorted upstairs. Gotta go, right, you know how to use a dishwasher. You don't need me here. So I think that's part of it. It's the sort of comfort with caretaking and also being able to care take and not be threatened by things so easily yeah month, but I also have very specific readings about Alpha Gyros that I see as emblematic of insecurity and not confidence Fair. Yeah. Terrorist she wants to know if you were a mummy and some dumb-ass dug you up in 2020. What would be your creative curse? That would leave your victims alive and suffering. Now. This is a hard question cuz enough has happened in two days that we're running out of things to curse people with C. I would my curse was like a very minor annoyance that is usually like the straw that breaks the camel's back when you're having a bad day. This is why like you I would curse people's like major charging cords always be too short and never where you need them. Oh damn. So like you're at an airport your phone is dying. There is an outlet but you can't reach it. Nope home or you're trying to find your phone charger and it is never what you need it. You may be left it in the car, or maybe it fell out of your purse, or maybe it's under your bed and that's wage. All charging cords, so laptops phones ear readers, you're you're playing chicken with your battery life perpetually home. That is my curse. Wow. Your witchcraft is next level when someone is a total jerk in traffic. I always say I wish diarrhea upon you. That's always that's always my go to curse. So at the bus is picking up my kids back in the day when they would go to school those beautiful days when they would leave Paris and do things and go to school full-time, you know, the buses have little stop sign that pops off on the side and you're not supposed to pass a school bus and people just keep people drive through I get irate and I will scream at them like your mother fucker Sawyer terrible ass, I wish diarrhea a bond you like I'm really loud when I yell. So everyone gets diarrhea know just that driver would get that one particular. I mean like the twenty-twenty curse everyone gets diarrhea a non stop diarrhea, but it's to the point where the bus drivers will see them coming and be like, yes diarrhea know they have cameras as Linus is requesting to be let out minus. Do you not like are podcasts Now you just had a very long nap on his capture E. I always say goodbye when you lose my room. How is the cat tree? Is he enjoying it? Oh, he loves. Yes. That's the best part. Yeah. I don't know like he gets all the way up on the top now. Can you see again Wilbur is on the cat mat. He's loving dog. Actually, he's got well, he's got a wool blanket and the Quilted catnip Matt. Hopefully it's warm and toasty and baked see diarrhea non-stop, but your your charge cord curse is minus Lords over means this is him this morning. I looked down upon you human. Then I looked down upon you some more human. This was home sleeping. Oh, yeah some gift, so I'm happy. He's using it. You're the best cat Mom. Thank you. All right, next question sujata. I hope I said that right. Maybe it's dzata wants to know Desert Island book what one book would you want if you were stuck on a desert island and if that's too tough, let's say up to three months. I always hate this question. Cuz it's difficult because reading tastes fluctuate and readings readings circumstances fluctuate too. Yeah. I'd like to have at least one Christina Lauren book with me. Hey this question. One of my ultimate favorite books for a long time was Battle Royale game. But it's about kids being trapped on an island killing each other. So sounds great. I don't I don't know who would want for my Desert Island reading. Maybe but the blacksmith Queen something light and ROM p and just bonkers. It's also extremely violent like there's decapitations in the first chapter. Of course, it's like take decapitation to make it fun fact, I would probably pick the crows Trilogy because I would never get tired of rereading that and then looking at the different pieces of Norse mythology and looking at the the different ways in which the god influenced the characters and the different like squads per God like how that works. I would never get tired of that but I think this question is not made for me because I'm not a re reader know your thoughts reader and your tastes vary based on a lot of circumstances. It's not that easy for you to be like, I want to read this one flavor for the rest of my life. Yeah. All right, that is our Roundup of silly questions to Electric Boogaloo. Who did it. Are you reading any books that you want to mention know? Okay, cool. I'm looking I did so I did pick up this book first based on the cover and I'm very excited about it, but it's called Where the wild ladies are by a off. Sudah and it's feminist re-imaginings of Japanese myth and folklore and I'll show you the cover the cover just like cute and like what the hell does this month? And I looked it up and two words employee discount. I know with and then Sweet Christian Dwyer. So this is the cover. I like the color palettes like a teal and like a coral letter. Yeah. Yeah and the letters are raised off but and then sweet christened wire sent me a bound manuscript of the soul mate equation, which is the upcoming Christina Lauren book that comes out spring wage. So those are ones I'm excited about but right now my brain is just Assassin's Creed. That's all I care about. I understand there's a size of a part of my brain. That's let's go play with her because and like I've said this before I think one of the appeals of a really well-written immersive video game is that you're being told a story but your choices are creating the story. You don't have to do the visual building and all of the mental construction of the world. You're looking at it part of it is pre-written, but you are deciding, of course, the interactivity make em, Feel like less like work. Yeah it like sitting down and like trying to block everything else out. So you can concentrate on like words on a page. Yes, and there's also the fact the part where you can do hard stuff like you can do a high-level Quest or the next piece of the of the story or the like I know so if I go do this it's going to be like a lot of cuts off. So I'll be watching and rather than making major decisions. Whereas if I just you know, go beat up these three guys. It's like go find these guys and beat them up. It's pretty yeah level and maybe they're knocked out. They'll have a chicken or ham sandwich and I can long as that's really all I'm here for is the yeah the sandwich looting and even like red shoes. You can choose your level of mint and a judgment inside the game as well, but you're still in that same story. Yeah, yeah, I guess you're reading Sarah anything. I'm actually looking at my list of things that are on my on my Kindle right now. There is a book coming out in April 2021 that you will probably hear about from Aaron. It is called dial a for aunties by just yes used to talk about it at the bookstore. It sounds really cute. Aaron told me it made her laugh until she cried. She's like I could not have enjoyed this book. It was it came at the perfect time. So I have an advanced copy of that and I'm really excited about it because I could use a book where I you know, laugh till I cry and I'm also reading through the pain Rick novellas by Lois McMaster Bujold the thing I love about them is that They're not very long. Her writing is very beautiful. The descriptions are gorgeous. It's that sort of soft shooed doublet wearing medieval fantasy world, but as Patrick ages, he basically he has a demon inside of him and he makes friends with the demon and it has many different personalities cuz as the demon has been attached to people it absorbs pieces of their personal life is like 13 people present inside Desdemona, and then there's Panic henrique is determined to be decent and he is in a world that is not always going to be decent or kind and even there are points where desdemona's like what the hell is wrong with you being nice. Would you just stop my God? I'm a demon of chaos. Can I just destroy some shit, please? But Patrick's determination to be decent is very easy assuring and I like that part a lot. So that's what I'm I'm working my way slowly through the pain Rick novellas. How many are there was quite a bit just like nine or ten now? Yeah, there's a new one out. Just now that Katherine Heloise red. Yeah, just say Catherine usually mentions them. 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Episode 176 - Matt Berninger

Sodajerker On Songwriting

53:12 min | 9 months ago

Episode 176 - Matt Berninger

"Hi there and welcome to episode one hundred and seventy-six of soda jack on songwriting. This is simon. Here is always with brian. And we hope you're all staying safe well. As we continue to navigate twenty twenty choppy waters. Choppy waters was muddy waters. Talented younger brother joining us. Today is a grammy. Winning american singer songwriter known for is distinctive baritone voice and thoughtful literate and intriguingly oblique lyrics not to mention for being from man of one of the most beloved critically respected indie rock bands of the last two decades the national across a prolific to decade recording career. He's collaborated with the likes of andrew bed. Phoebe bridges the bed in the bay and jump brian. It's the couple of weeks ago. Released his debut solo album the excellent seventeen prison to unanimous acclaim. We're very happy to welcome the brilliance map. Bannon guest of the show. We've had quite a few requests for matt over the years of me. Yeah so it was great to finally get them on. The show wasn't it. It was and neat. Didn't disappointed now. He's a very engaging guy with quite an unusual approach to songwriting. As you'll hear in the interview on the new album so low key triumph. Twos and yeah. It's a lovely songs and so much of the music that's been released this year. It has a very soothing quality. I think yeah. I'm produced by none other than the great booker t jones. Now there's a quality. Yeah very hard to go wrong with some like that at the helm absolutely i believe actually started out as a covers. Album am inspired by the willie nelson album stardust. Which i think was one of my childhood favorites right. Yeah but said during the sessions it morphed into something else entirely which again is typical starting point for new creative project for. Hey whatever works. i guess That was born in one thousand nine hundred ninety one in cincinnati ohio. He took piano lessons for a few years as a youngster but didn't really take to the instruments didn't really pay a great deal of attention to music in general until they cyst. The began bringing home records by the likes of you to the smiths violent films. He went on to study graphic design at the university of cincinnati where he met future. Bandmate scott devon dorf in one thousand nine hundred eighty one. They formed a garage band. Nancy and released one album before he and scott relocated to brooklyn matt flourished in new york creative director in the field of advertising but the lord of music proved too strong and the ultimately quit the profession of the co founding. The national in one thousand nine hundred nine. The rest of the band was made up of air. Endesa and scott's brother. Brian devon dov with for the bryce later to joining on guitar after period spent developing their sound and growing their audience. They released their self titled debut album in two thousand and one on the independent brasler label. They followed that with two thousand and three sad songs for this. He lovers have to which they signed to beggars banquet released alligator in two thousand and five which also met with much critical acclaim. Two thousand seven bucks approve the band's commercial breakthrough and they built on that success with the release of high violets in two thousand ten twenty thirteen's trouble will find me was nominated for a grammy and twenty seventeen sleep. Well beast actually won for best alternative music album and topped the album charts here in the uk the most recent album. I am easy to find drop last year and was conceived as a musical companion to a short film directed by filmmaker might mills. Outside of the national association making his solo record must have been working for several years on a musical version of cyrano de beige iraq. With his wife corinne besser. Who's one of his principal collaborators. He's also one half of the gio. Elvi- with ramona falls from mount brent enough which resulted in the two thousand and fifteen album returned to the moon. Last year he appeared in zach galifianakis vehicle between two fans the movie and contributed the song walking on a string at you. Bet with the excellent phoebe bridges to the film soundtrack. Checkouts are playlist for this episodes. Here that's song as well as a selection of tracks from matt's newly minted offering seventeen prison and some prime national cuts you'll find some page at so dejected. Dot com slash podcast. Keep up to date with all our guests latest news facebook dot com slash moc banning at my banning it on twitter and green gloves. Seven seven seven on instagram. He can also follow his bond that facebook dot com slash the national official and. That's the national on twitter instagram. Find those it's so check dot com facebook dot com slash soda jacker an abso jacket on twitter and instagram subscribe. Wherever you get you podcasts. You never miss an episode and give us a nice rating and review if you haven't already don't serve if you'd like to choke whatever pocket change you can spare into upturned hats and help towards the running costs of this completely independent out free show you can do so at so dejected. Dot com slash. Donate before we can send you many thanks to melissa. And also to lydia their help set up the interview. Okay on with the show. Please enjoy our chat with the brilliant matheny came some me and then he took the sink through. Thanks so much for doing this. Yeah my pleasure. Congrats on the new album is well thank you. Thank you own. Repeat listen this week. Oh you have yeah. I like it. Amendment is a great listen. How'd you being glenn to make a solo album for awhile or was that something that just kind of happened organically. It happened organically. Actually i met booker t jones twelve years ago and a saying in his record. The road from memphis song representing memphis sharing jones. They're all these people coming and going in this studio. Twelve years ago in manhattan. Like lauren hill was coming. The elevator doors open and lauryn hill was standing there. And she let me out. She got an example. And then Lou reed just left quest love and share in all. These people were there so it's kind of chaotic and i was really nervous. I never performed like that or recorded lives so sharon jones and i sang into the same microphone just looking at each other and she much shorter than i am. So hit the can bend over like a right angle. Look like a norman rockwell. Doctor something cleaning into that. Just remember feeling super weird but in any one of the look at each other and sing it live and so we did like three takes and he's great in any loved in it was over and he was just. It went so fast. It was really chaotic. But he was this calm center in all of it so that happened twelve years ago then jumped ten years later to around december december. Eighteenth that. I wrote to his click. I went to his at didn't have his email. I hadn't really stayed in touch. But i clicked his a the management button on the booker t jones website and wrote an email and his daughter who is now his manager. We'll be back the next day and it was just like. Hey i'm thinking about doing some covers and wondering if you'd want to help basically like play on it or just because he producing arrange stardust which is one of my favorite records. It's willie nelson covers record in willie's favorite songs back. Then and my dad's favorite record is one of those like dna records which is always on in the house. and so. I wanted to make a covers record. That had that vied head that sort of intimacy in so it started out that way in he jumped right in united asked what we want to produce in arrange it so that started and we start talking about these different covers the cure morphine velvet underground and then had bought a bunch of ideas to and we started talking about those and then in the process of working on those sing. It had to do those. I started sharing some sketches of originals. That i've been writing just a bunch of different people people from from the national people from people from walkman different people haven desert just as friends. I've been writing with my band. My favorite bands people from my first band. Nancy so had all these big little songs or a few and he really was into those. Let's work these and by the time we were done. We had ten originals or twelve originals in done like seven covers. i think So he wrote everything in ranged. Everything recorded everything in about fourteen days. So that's how it turned into a solo album. I'm sorry i was a long answer to a short first quarter and what sorts of qualities to the bring to the project as a producer. I kind of imagine them through being them. Dispensing nuggets of wisdom left right and center. Yeah Size drinking my strawberry banana smoothie but i was said booker academically. He's an expert in almost every genre like he. After he wrote green onions he went back to school in indiana to study music and that was like international. Hit then he would drive home. Back from indiana Memphis for gigs in session. Gigs it stacks so music. Is everything for him in. It's got everything from me in. So he thinks of music in terms of like a religion faith in its power in how you have to be truthful. You have to respected So he would talk about lyrics. He would want to know what the songs are about. An i a commitment. Sure this is about. And he talked about certain lines and he'd read all the lyrics like over and over. He always had the lyrics in front of him even when he was playing in highlight things in the lyrics. I hadn't even highlighted in. He would look at people. Look at me in the behind glass. And he's on the other glass and went out. Certain line was coming up. He almost this thing like yeah go for it now and then he would sort of list. Everyone is a singer in everyone in the room. He was like a shepherd or he was like we were all like starlings he was he was the one. We were all following. He had that six sense of where to go when and win to take a left. Turn a dive this way and everyone else just like would instantly not consciously go in. And he's not just because everybody was because he was connie was he has. This has a musical gravity to him that he just pulls everyone in this way. That way is not academic. it's emotional like booker. t. in the angie's records like melting pot Listen to that record no lyrics right no words whether others vocals that they're not narratives words but there's so much content there's so much storytelling in the music in the field of the oregon in booker t. m. gs a lot of times. That's the vocalist. You know that's the that's the thing. Doing what at vocalist would normally do right. That's what he does and so he's really really really good with singers. And that's why. So many dylan neil young in you know whatever. It may be started playing trombone on the halle jackson's record when he was fourteen. And so just every artist they work with whether it's disco or country or anything he's got a real real sense of what's the point of this is the motion of not the not the message. But what's the emotion in in nets he brought in so many other things he's just a centered very calm very healthy minded body. Yeah we talked about aliens. We talked about racism and it was great one. More second is one of the ones that we really live off the album. And it's a lovely teams keyboards as well. That's decent piano. You've gotten there the organ and stuff and so the book kind of play a big role in helping to arrange those kinds moments In terms of arrangements most of the basic arrangement of the song structure. Here's the versus the courts in the bridges and the thing. Those were kind of came in pretty well. Written except for the few like collar shirt is one of the whole second half he sort of just like let's go out any change direction at push to keep writing and i just that whole second. Half collared shirt was done like almost live. I wrote that day that whole second half but as an example where he's like okay. This one's not done. This one isn't a fool song yet in without that second half of color shirt. It's a totally different thing. Back to one more second. I wrote that with sheehy who's in a band called law slander. he's also elvi- touring band. He he sent me the kind of range for that even with some backing vocals. Or i don't know what it was. He had a lot in there in them. I really wanted to make that a big song. I can't talk about it like i want this. To be the answer to dolly parton pardons. I will always love you. You know where it's sort of. What did the guy she said that to. How did he respond. You know the other side of that conversation. Hold on wait wait you know. And so when we're seconds kind of his his relation in a funny way. Or at least i wanted to song about big love about big desperate. Love like nothing compares to you. You know something like that and so a lot of songs on this thing. I was like a classic songs meaning. I didn't want to blurry weird. Indie rock you know whatever. I never tried to make blurry weird. Indie rock Record just like start us exploded Career wide open right. He was outlaw country. He was in that box of outlaw country. You know he was the leader was he was the he. He was the king of that country but he just wanted to do something different in his label is like don't do it. Nobody wanted put out start us. They thought it was a bad idea. And the funny thing is. He met booker on a beach. Book your salt. Willie nelson running by when bay in malibu jogging like short shorts and like willie nelson willy. Nilly really turned a booker. And that's how they met and started talking about. Start as or something like that. It was crazy. So i love that whole story and i just love how will he didn't give a shit and you just wanna do these popular songs that he liked so. That's what i started trying to do with the covers anyway. And so when we moved into the originals. I still had that sense it. Let's make songs that other people would cover later learn always they may come skimmer little more time in the abm and figure out what you mentioned. How book is sorts of these very focused on the voice and we thought he did a wonderful job on this record. Kind of 'em keep in your voice as the focal point like framing it with the music but not sort of dive and attention from it which is particularly important as opposed as you single in your in your lower register. Don't i am looking at your beatles thing behind you that you know the book. Dmg's have album where they do. All beatles covers. I'm going to answer your question. The second but didn't know that. Yeah and the covers them walking across the street. That same thing anyway. Yes so booker. He is always about the song right. That's why i love the beatles and he doesn't read a lot of lyrics now in he does sing He's incredible singer but he's is praising than he's mostly stay in the music side of Not done a lot of that. So i think when he has somebody who writes salah married a latin in his all these words in elise ideas but maybe unresolved melodies unresolved musical ideas. But they have the emotional eighty is that they want to get across like he did with voted me notice but is reading is a singer who was so singular in just people that he worked with that he could see. Let them be their weird thing. You know a bill withers right though whether he made airplane parts in san pg or something. I can't remember anyway but Candidates like tell His emotional way of singing or something that that booker's like all like make sure to get that that weird wild thing. Just make sure you don't fuck with that and enhance that whatever. That weird thing is in They have somebody like that. Who is just like. I want to know what you're trying to do. Matt you know. I wanna know what you're trying to say in our account on tried to say he's like maybe she'll say something like this and then he'd play the keyboard and yes. It was a lot like that you know on them. You've got a gallon silver springs as well often you. Yeah it's so funny. I talked about making a solo record. You know so. I brought it in like twenty genius to help me make it. If it didn't feel at all like a solo experiences quite the opposite bam but bringing gale linn. I'd been writing for a lot of singers. I am easy to find writing for so many different singers in so many different voices. And then also i had been working on this sooner berge Musical which is writing for eight different characters in all the different perspectives on love. So i've been writing with Of the narrative alone you know. Those are very specific types of songwriting. projects The sooner diverse musical in the nineties you defined so this was happening at the same time was writing all these in so there was very much sense. Like this is only for me. My wife wasn't writing lyrics. She helped write the lyrics all those other projects but she didn't write on this. This is sort of just for me in in in none of the songs head that connect like all those songs. I am easy to find in the sooner debris twenty-somethings on Version in there all have to happen a certain place in the story. You couldn't say this and this on yet because she had received that letter from christian syrian our So i was constantly thinking about that stuff. And then i'm easy to find current and i were like trying to rate words from a child's perspective or a perspective so this was only my perspective and it wasn't about any story wasn't about anybody specific and it wasn't about had no other job other than to be record you know it's just gonna be record of songs and so that was what was different about it and nice about it so don't try. Don't run from you. And he went stay spring. We spoke to lots of writers. You've talked about kind of mumbling gibberish can make him bowel sounds and so thing and then going back and filling in consonance and deciphering what they might have actually been saying. He's a kind of puzzle solving approach. That you take to the lyrics but the national. That's how often right. There's just a big folder of musical sketches from those guys in a garage band throat in start recording without even listening right. Yeah most of time blah blah blah. The simpler sketches are much easier. You just have one or two simple parts. A few chords don't need a whole lot. Because then i do my thing with a melody. It was like a jungle gym. Where i just. There's too many moving parts in the playground. I can't swing around you know. And and so they've learned to kind of just simple arrangements to send that allows me the room to find melody in for me really melodies so much more important than lyrics. Lyrics are crucial. I think i'm better at writing lyrics than i am at any other part of what i do. I'm good lyricist. I know that. I think good. I think i think i'm a better lyricist. The name a singer. That's why i always mostly focusing on melody because that's the hardest thing in it's the more important thing in like the melodies. The christmas tree in the lyrics of the lights. I can change those lights out. I can paint the tree blue. I can cover it with any christmas lights. That's easy it's not easy to get the lights just right. It takes a but like the melodies. The christmas tree in the lyrics of the lights. When you do right with karen american thinking that sometimes she helps you kind of identify when you mumbles of over the top of a tracks you will sometimes identify something that sounds like particular phrase or something. Yeah yeah i mean. She is so funny. It's connecting words. The melody is the magic okay. She's a brilliant writer. Brilliant poet but we both do the same thing she'll help break words in work on sketches She mumbles along to. And then i'll listen to sometimes she's doing But it's so hard sometimes to get this two things to connect it's like magic in just described it house easy but it's it's not easy. It's not easy to make a beautiful christmas tree. You know he can write till fingers bleed. You can write the most brilliant things that you know it's pros and if you you published it you might win an award but it doesn't work in. The song of songs are not poems. I don't write poems. I write songs in songs are the combination of melody an word invoice right and so i'm a songwriter. I'm not a poet essays. A rate things for things but that that's always a struggle for me even writing five hundred word essay for on songwriting. I can't do it really. I don't like to sit down at word in right something like that. But now we have word open. I will sing and recorded right at the same time. Most of my demos have typing in them. Even though nine record in the studio. I just all. I don't have paper. Used to print out fifty versions of the same song. Print it out again. Because there's one word is different. It was killing trees. Just that was editing so fast and so much in the morgue done it many better faster and then just have more to pick from in a craft with Definitely does that with me. But she is of a different process to it. I will lay down. Fifty mumbled vocal melodies. Going all over the place and then i won't even go back and listen to the i fifty but all different out is wait till where i am. Malik okay. I found something i liked now right and then i'll write the song that she likes to go back. And listen to every subconscious. You know storeowner. She's wants to hear what's going on in my mind. Literally she does come back. She's like. I heard you say this one thing you know. The best example of that is the system only dreams in total darkness. And i mean she does that all the time she'd been doing that since boxer in little ways but many songs on i'm easy to find she wrote the whole thing. You know three or four songs on their everywhere in even the melodies all hers but with regardless the system dreams in total darkness. We were finish of that record. I think we were literally mastering it the next day or sending it we were dug in them. That song we knew is kind of like a big song in the courts used to be. Aaron takes his acid trips through copenhagen which i think he had recently done and i think that was that was the lyric and i really liked it. Because it was a different kind of thing but cringe i just. She's like feels slight and she's like let me go listening in and i woke up at four in the morning and she'd stayed up all night and she's like here. What about the system. Only dreams in total darkness in a mike from. She's like that was in the near sketches. You said something like that analogous great Into the booth reason that song with new chorus and everything in in remastered at like two days later you know it was like so it happens like that allow. She does like to come into the last minute you know. Are you guys west wing fans. There's a famous lean jeb. Bartlett is about to go out. I think it's to make state in the union or some big thing or announcement needs puts his lucky tie on and as he's walking out. Stockard channing is his wife the first lady. She's doing his tight tight 'cause it's lucky and she cuts. She just cuts his tie and he freaks out. This is lucky tie. And then they something. He puts on another tie and he goes up. You need amazing. Crin does that to me all the time. You know she married. She's like she's like you're thinking too much about the tie you know. And she'll just so cut the tie off like she she cut the course. She killed the chorus of big hits on the night before we sending it the master. She doesn't give up to the last second. Sometimes you wasted The say anything and then we're like why did he say three weeks ago. You're right like we say got you know. But it's always worth it saw shannon bex. It sounds like really kind of instinctual process. No instruments involved. It's more sort of free association and rework and things that you've come up with well. I mean writing melodies and lyrics. Much harder i used to write notebooks ahead. You know. i've got a hundred little notebooks of every side. You know this like every history journal. I've had and get stacks and stacks listings on the eastern right and then flip through pages and every three pages. I'd right at least three pages. And because i knew i would use those two pages afterwards to refine right but those became oppressive. Because to figure out where you were and what song you wanted to go back to. We were in that song. I had tabs kinko's those little colored tabs stick at the site of everything all books they'd all tabs in writing and which song it was. But changing names of songs switched tabs. All these books became a burden right. And then once i started this rating in word. They're usually all in the same document. Run writing songs. They're all the songs stacked in out. Check this from this Here so i'm usually working a giant soup of words melodies and stuff for a project without knowing which songs are which are which lyrics are gonna go into which songs yet past couple of national records have been like that even version was like that But yet in the switching from books to writing in word and writing in real time and just kinda like it's a trip and i've learned to not try to make it happen. You know it's kinda like it's it's i mean the tides are regular. But but you can't go out and pull the tied in right. I can't go into my head pool. Song i have to just wait till i'm in a space in all of a sudden here gunman is using certain hours times a day. Just when you take time the when you're settled five minutes to just zone out in. His song doesn't move me to tears while writing or made me laugh out loud or maybe Rate them so angry if it doesn't move in some sort of kind of dramatic way emotional way. I can't go back to it. i'll never go back to it. Bores me you know. There's nothing there if there's not something ugly under the rack. What's the point of rocks. You know a have to find something real something new something weird something important for me to wanna keep writing or have to sing it for twenty years much less. You know as the thing. I learned is i don't ever fucking som- record that you don't love because then you gotta fucking sing night after fucking night. God forbid it hit you know i. Yeah there have been very few things. I've ever put out that i regret. Not all of them have been good. But i don't regret any of them even the ones that are debt good. I actually a pretty good. But the reason is i don't put something out that i'm half confident you know i mean you never know you never know with a song or a record or movie. You're anything is it's going to connect with people you never know but all i know is that if i don't connect with it then it's probably unlikely anyone else will you know. Or if i'm treating some fake connection. Some false by a dea. If i'm not giving myself something new then i'm wasting my time in the wasting everybody's ninety nine cents you know and then ended up having the carry this shitty song around the rest of my life so i mean there's a few i don't ever again but most songs i if it's not important to me then it won't be putting anyone else lettuce can you solar. She bios sieve. Beautiful you know. We wondered if. This was a freewheeling way in which you wack sort of thrown out ideas all the time directing that sorts of stems from original job in advertising which evolved that kind of spit ball and scott and i talk about this all the time. It's got Design schools got my met and design school. And yeah. I was drawing painting. I was artsy kid. Play sports until like eighth grade was good not bass west suck at basketball football and baseball. The other you know be potatoes of midwestern you know. I never played soccer. I sucked at that too. I wasn't that fast but As good a baseball you know a good baseball player. But they cost me too much. Anxiety just played sports and even took piano lessons that causes so much anxiety the performance aspect of the being out on the field with all the parents watching a hate. It'd be kind of a stage at for some reason but other stages like you know. I was at altar boy and all that kind of stuff i did do things like beyond that kind of stage but in terms of becoming a songwriter in becoming Design to songwriting. Art was the thing. I took some art classes and that led me to take more classes in high school. They hid invent new classes for me. There's one other guy this guy teddy We took every class at saint ex and had a really good art department really good teachers and eight invent new things. We taken everyone in. He and i would always be there on the weekends. working on. what black are printmaking drawings. And all kinds of things that they didn't invent new classes for us and we'd be going to guys taken the class and now he's the art teacher at that scope. So i went from that and i knew art was my thing but i was listening music. Play piano guitar. My sister was bringing home. You know the smiths and violent films in that stuff in. And i was like what's this all the time i always Artsy kid listening to ninety seven. X is a college radio station in. I went to to design school. I went to pre med for year. They switched from that. The sculpture in switch from sculpture to a five year design program in cincinnati to school for seven years but that program designed brokers where. I met scott Brewer as casey were all nancy. That was the band nancy in. We were just best friends design school in so that ban kind of grew out of being designers and toward their senior year. We made a record called reuther and slightly older actually making older than everybody else. So i was sort of the lead singer of that bam just because we pals and then i was a huge voices fan payment fan. Just the idea that bob pollard. A thirty eight year old teacher from dayton ohio could switch to stop being a schoolteacher in start being a rockstar. I remember in college me. Obsessed with that idea you know and being obsessed that banned in brainiac was around. You know there's so many local. Cincinnati bands wigs tiger lilies in so many And so i was always going to shows with those guys with scott mike casey and then we started a band you know in in in we played one gig two gigs one in casey's basement where brainiac showed up and left after a couple of songs. My dad them and then we read it at a greek restaurant after graduation in people from our class. Our graduation class in from the fashion department came we gig in that was like the first real gig you know done like that was a gig by friends and like crazy bitten by the vampire that night you now. I was a singer songwriter on out but then that ban sutter broke up when we all graduated just mike had to move back to high. I mean we all moved to new york together. That whole band did and then mike move back to ohio. Because he had a kid enact. Casey went to graduate school at mit. So nancy broke up in about five or six years in new york. I was just doing nothing but design and i became a creative director at a pretty big firm. The internet bubble in the bubble burst in the last like two years of being creative director at icon. Medialab i was mostly managing in figuring out who to lay off next you know in. It was brutal in anti-israel friends. These are still close friends with everybody. I laid off and then eventually lead myself off nationals. Well started by this point. But but but that's how i quit my job from design into full into rock and roll. I worked for places like science environment in sapient in all these weird invented words and i was hired design gun or creative director for pitches. Remember remember when pichai went into pitch for equinoxes the gym in new york city. And i just it wasn't the The trumpy supporter guy but there was some younger douche bag asshole like acting like fucking in like i was like. What am i in the room with this Like design of fucking website for fucking fitness club in europe. You know drunk on a stage making no money. I was like yeah. Let's do more europe unless of the equinox shit. No sounds very madman. Y'all yet was the parties around the creative industry around the newark in in the nineties. Late nineties and early ought seen racing especially after nine eleven man was there was more crazy parties in that industry than than i've ever experienced in rock and roll so much more money. There is parties where this party headed cost. Five hundred thousand eight hundred two hundred thousand dollars just in stupid shots keys and stuff you know and supermodels that were that were shipped in investment capital is flying in to the internet in so much of it was about hiring the most talented people and so much of that was throwing the best parties and so like i was opposed to throw awesome parties to lure the best designers away from site and violent and all the other places i was supposed to be like the guy that gets it was gross. Your artistic sensibility is so strong that the new titles like my eyes t shirts or going back over karinna liquor store or trophy wife for any of these things i mean i'm interested before i even hear the song and i think that's part of the sensibility of the song rights to be able to pick out those things. Yeah a good title man. Title might be all you need. you know. i mean if it's three minutes since music behind it the rest of the words could i mean. Sometimes it works sometimes. It doesn't i mean david. Bowie did a lot just like scrap. Cutting newspaper up laying down and writing latte way in a refrigerator magnet poetry. And i think bob policies that when my favorite song writers may just be thousand. Does the name of that album to ease be thousand. I remember what the fuck is be. Thousands just that alien lanes you know with the fuck you know vampire on titus what the fuck is every. Yet twilight camp fighter. You know with a good title. You're off to the races. So that's a big part. Yeah sometimes you get attached to like a really clever things and you have to kill as many babies is birth. You know and yet to kill a lot of really good ideas because if you packed too many christmas lights on the tree it's going to look gross in could be garish. Somehow somebody said Writing is like squeezing drops of blood from your forehead right every word and that used to be like that was the like. What is the perfect regular words. Just right and you just have to get you to think so hard to get a headache destroy figure. I stopped that you know. Now i just like i just bleed bleed everywhere constantly all over everything just the word. Just let it all go Barf just total emotional. Mind barf and Unusually that's in some sort of rhythm now because like i'll be listening to lou reed sort of damocles. I was for whatever reason i was recently. I was listening to it. Just because of the groove of the i wrote like seven or eight different songs just listened to that song all different melodies all different like structures and patterns. But just i had a good groove and you can find a different melody rhythm or melody rhythm but i rated. I am bic pentameter. A lot. When i'm just writing that that that right it's like i think that's i am big. That might be but except hamster. I don't know but my point is is like i were just right right right. One hundred lines just go Not in kansas as an example of that on our on the last national record. That song is really long probably still too long but it was actually like twelve other full stanzas headache and had about forty five more lines in that song. That might mills is like. I don't think we need the one about maranda. I don't think we need to explain who. Rem is in this song you know and to get my knows who rem. It is just like steig's writing everything. I just read it down. And so that's the art is just like the writing is spilling out is the might bar is the sole barf know as the blood leading in the crashed is oh look at look at all that carnage in. Let's find the oregon's let's put this thing back in may get alive again. you know. it's fine what's there you know. And and that's when you start to craft and that's the other side of it kicks in. Adding a lot of songs are all craft art. But they're still could be good songs but if it doesn't have that art meaning that discovery that new thing that weird if the fruits not bruised and away a rotten away never seen. It's just regular old fucking apple. Oh man make us arms when this man home. This really air catching lines on the new records as well like one silver springs. The i loved which is hit by a car shocked by causing or slip of boats. I just love that very specific combination of things. You've chosen there. Yeah i've been shot by cousin. I've slipped off a boat. And i've been hit by By survived Best true but it's just kind of like you never know when the lights go out on you know. And i tried to be as healthy as possible but i had been hit by a car. Almost scott was there. Scott selling i think it was more traumatic for scott than it was for. I think about desk all the time at process that i think deep about like what does that mean in in in my frayed of it you know In how can i not be because it's coming no matter what you know. How could i not be afraid of this. Like trying get above it. It's possible but that's that's the goal you know. I think because when you're not afraid that the near much nicer to every nicer to yourself. You're just because i think. Fear is trump sells fear The politicians even the corporations the catholic church. They all sell fear. Okay in fear is the opposite of love and fear. Stops you from epilepsy. Often liking people stops you from understand yourself you know. Fear of people don't look like you fear of women in so many corporations exit corporations. I mean he's political power structures others the church or putin's russia trump's america. All the other belarus assholes are out there that the strong man but they're also seen on march soccer. Can all these. they're all you know. It's like fear of losing followers. Fear of letting you know. I'll have enough likes have enough friends. They're all selling fear. And i'm i'm an sucker but you got me man instagram's got me. I love it. And i check it fifty times a day to see who parted my fucking joke and it's like i posted something that i immediately took dan because i realized i people read it wrong inside. I wanted to kill an actor. You know that. I wanted a an actor dead in on this after dead. I just don't want to ever watch their movies again. but that's my point is like facebook and instagram and all that shit is like it's added another level of anxiety you know in. They know that the trump now's that if he scares people. He's kinda get on tv. You know. i mean stranger. Things is so popular because it's terrifying. Everybody wants to be scared. And when you tell a bunch of people who have never had a conversation with a black person or a real conversation that they're coming for your daughters in their guns ought shit you know it's fucking it's easy to sell that dumb shit. It's like falling down the stairs as much harder to go up the stairs than the fall down. But that's what he's doing. He's just he's pushing everybody downstairs saying look see how dangerous stairs are in the bottom just just on a pile and beaten up and broken ankles and like 'cause that's fear that's what fear does but bravery is walking up the stairs leaning in and that's that's the other side of it that's love those. Are the two things at work right now. In it seem like fears has been winning out lately in. I mean nine. Eleven was tactic of fear and it worked. It's terrorism a terrorist. And that's one of the reasons why i really appreciate the personal details that you will incorporate into songs acceptance in prison for example. What you say picking my kids up from school smelling like gills scout cookies and drool not just like almost a mundane detail when you willing to put something like that in the song. It makes a difference. I think you know the parents. My daughter to school or like sh- then i i probably smell like weed sometimes in places i shouldn't but yeah like right in the battle that kind of ugly real stuff you know. My daughter's might is cool as fuck. And she's eleven and we are very square family except for little wine and we eat and everything. She's seeing me smoke. We might seem smoke weed often. And it's not a big deal. She's eleven and it's legal and it's better than alcohol. So yeah my wife. And i really honest with each other in with her kid. Yeah and nice. Another great tight. That was wealth. seventeen prison. Well i did write that down as that's a great title for something. I think i was going to give it to my brother Because my brother was talking about starting a metal band and he had a terrible name for it. I'll tell you what it was. This is really offensive gross and it sounds like you should come up with a better way can so i think circuited prison was. I wrote that down. But i was looking at the reason it came to. I was looking at a pipe that goes into the ocean and it has a like a little jail on top of it curves because the pipe pairs it's just a. It's a cage to keep people from climbing out onto this drainage pipe right. It might be creek water. Just i think it might be natural this water. That's coming in off with creek. There's a bunch of they're all up and down by manhattan beach and from you know south of marina radio as of anyway so i ride my bike down there. And there's this one particular one that i love and that's where it came from. But then there's a serpentine wall in cincinnati which is a psychotic giant wall down by the river with the stairs ways to hang out and drink and smoke cigarettes and get on riverboats and where. They had these nightclubs on the river. Boats You could drink underage on their listening to ministry and secure. That shit is awesome So that's the certain need while and then a further. I always think when our band like with the national. Any band is touring throughout the world. Especially if you think about moving through an airport if you look at it from above. It's like thirty people with all their luggage in gears and carts right and usually they're all dressed in black. Royal jesse is to follow the lead person. You know the tour manager who knows where to go to get all the luggage checked in then get us to that thing that you follow each like ducks like ants to stay. Just watch the guy in front of you and stay within three feet. Just don't lose the pack because you'll get lost you'll lose everybody and so it looks like a big black snake snaking through the crowds of an airport. That's what abandoned or a huge family. Looks like that too. You know or any group you know a softball team. They all have to of snake through these crowds in these turnstiles and that to all things. That's why i'm saying like a good title starts to just just like it. Means ten different things within moments you know will match. This has been truly fascinating. Thanks for taking the time to speak to us. We know our listeners. Going to get a hell of a lot of this okay. I hope so thanks. This is fun and we wish you the best of look with the new album's well thank you. thank you yeah i'm excited about. I'm really fantastic. Thanks so much. Math jazz might by by shannon liz coal cynicism for tax case this servants so little submission seen screaming. This sort of that was. My man gets orchestras from his bed. In bed with great to speak to him wasn't yeah fantastic. Really enjoyed talking to him about his writing. Process on seventeen. Prison was just great foam listening yet. It's very cool here now. His mind works very visually orientated. Isn't he yeah. He seems to be able to conjure up these lovely metaphors for things and then saw translate them us. He's talking to you. Yeah into interesting concepts for songs and titles imprisons case in point isn't it. You know some people see a pipe and a cage and he sees a kind of plan view of a black sep to the band snaking through airports after gift. I guess his name. Yeah and the way he writes. It's just fascinating isn't it. Yeah the kind of famous vomiting of ideas rather than sit down and say i will write a song now. He's able to be quite free in that process and in a way to me. That kind of approach makes more sense than sitting down and say i will raise a song and it will be this long that it will be about this. Why imposed those limitations in the way. Why not just be free. Yeah it does feel like he's kind of moved onto a different level there. Maybe we should all just catch up with him. In the sense all of how he goes back over the gibberish picks out phrases because they sound like something that was great. Yeah the system. Only dreams insult darkness. Being the classic example i of course that's an example of how we collaborate with his wife as well 'cause she head that didn't she yeah that's what she thought he was saying. Obviously that more interested in the more he actually had. I guess it's important not to be too precious isn't definitely you know rather than say. Oh no sorry. This is the eleventh hour and this song is now complete. They just went with a better idea and his book. It's eight. that was fun to hear about two. Yeah he's obviously had major success in particular field for was sensibilities connected with matt's in this case was really revealing unexciting and i thought yeah i was struck by not really because you wouldn't necessarily poker at the top of your list for project that would makes you think well what other combinations of people might produce really beautiful stuff if you put them together. Definitely thanks to max for spending time with us. Thanks also to melissa and led the there helps missile seventeen prisons available now so avail yourself of a copy of that come. We'll be back against soon before you know it now there.

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Ep. 4: Fashion Statements

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Ep. 4: Fashion Statements

"This episode of inside the oscars is presented by ziprecruiter. Coming up on this episode of inside the oscars we're not just talking about the film's because of course they inspire they inform the entertain the outfits fashion today to be more than just the designer that you're wearing but what does that designed to me. We're going to look back at some of those shows. Stopping red carpet looks from over the years. Plus i am super pumped for this forget the celebrities. I got to talk to the woman who makes all those picture-perfect red carpet moments possible. It's about outlining and taking care of the nominees throughout the entire process that when they go home at the end of the night they think that that was the oscars imagined everybody on ginger zee and we are getting closer. The date of the astor's right around the corner. And you know that means they gotta get the red carpet cleaned and ready to roll out and this time it's happened at l. A.'s famed union station. Of course that's a change of venue so we don't really know what to expect but what else will be different. The nominees will be dressed down. Maybe would they wear sweats hoodies. I dunno could they be with the on trend. Lounge wear look. We don't know. But i know that it would be fine and probably fitting the year that we've had. I had to guess though. Somebody's gonna be wearing something super great and glamorous because it's still the red carpet some fashion statements though at least in the couple of years have changed from. Just who are you wearing to. what are you saying. And my friends a norman. She's got a little something on that. Hey hey ginger. Yes so excited. To look forward to all of fashion we will see on the red carpet at the oscars this year. And here to talk about it. All with me is josie stylist extraordinaire joe. So glad that you're here to talk about everything oscars fashion the show's producers. This year called the dress code a fusion of inspirational and aspirational basically meaning. That yeah formal school. If you wanna go there but casual is really not. So what do you think when you hear the words inspirational and aspirational when you're thinking of author fashion. The red carpet is back. That's what i'm thinking. i mean. I think oscar fashion for us especially in the fashion world has always been the super bowl of like you know you have are huge award season. Starting at the beginning of the year and it's sort of really starts to ramp up and ramp up and really reach a climax at the oscars. And this is where everybody's out in full force in couture in one of kind like you're literally and even designers themselves who've made these dresses for these. Starlets do not know if these celebrities wearing it until the door opens from their car and they step out and they see it for the first time and then they can say. My dress is on the red carpet or it didn't make it and i think that's really what it's become think we're already for glitz and glamour and all of that 'voliti again. I think we want to have a little bit of fun. I'm sitting here talking to you and slap hands. But i'm done with them in two thousand nineteen i was like you know what would it be fun to. Just wear sweatpants all the time and now i want to burn. I exactly we all wish for it. So you gotta be careful what you wish for. But that's the thing because even though you know with the oscars award season winding down to a close in some of the award shows that we've already had this year. We have seen some folks dressing down but finding a way to make it fashion. Whether it's the dior pajamas or just something more cosy. So do you think that we will just see folks just going for the high end fashion or could we see some of those more relaxed. Looks well i think we looked at award season this year to see people to rape. I mean you saw you saw that mix of casual informal but as each award event came up. Everybody got a little bit more dressed up. Do i think you're gonna see pajamas on the red carpet. No i think people are really done with that. I mean maybe you'll see the odd person having fun and maybe some guile show up something a little bit more in between casual and thrown over something. And i think that's okay too but are we going to see like jason day. 'cause hoodie no probably not i think i think it'll be fun and somewhat unexpected. But it will definitely be glamorous. After the year that twenty twenty was not only was it of course hallmarked by covid and by soleil solution and all of that but also by activism and so when we're looking ahead to the red carpet for the oscars this year. How do you think celebrities could continue to use their fashion to communicate a personal message or to say something. That's important to them. But i mean. I think you have always seen elements of this through the year. I mean i think all the way back at the very time jane. Fonda is a big proponent of this you know she's very very candid about her activism but in one thousand nine hundred eighty two. She wore a ysl tough to the oscars to protest the vietnam war. And why why is. I don't know. I think the reality is that she wanted to wear something. That was really not your traditional red carpet gown to sort of say. Hey guys this is what's going on. And then you flash forward to twenty eighteen. And you've got time's up and you're asking celebrities to wear black on the carpet and that really sort of changed things too but you know in the nineties. We wore red. Ribbons signify. You know the aids epidemic. And i think now we're gonna see a lot of people really use politics to be reinterpreted in a way for the red carpet and politics today can mean so many different things and certainly yes certain justice movements social justice movements. I think all of that will be amplified in with many ways on the red carpet Because we are living in that. And i think we can ignore that in the fact that fashion today has to be more than just a designer that you're wearing but what does that designer mean. And what does the gown your way represent and one thing that we have seen come up more. And more is the idea of sustainability. And so for instance when someone chooses to re wear a look. What message do you think that they're sending because back in the day that didn't happen. It was almost like taboo but we do see it now. Oh my gosh. I think that is the biggest thing you know. I have to say my favorite remark ever i was on the red carpet at the oscars a while back and george clooney did this and i don't even think you realize that even actually sending a trend way back but i think he was they were asking amal clooney about getting ready and you know getting her dressed together for the oscars george was like. I don't know thirty minutes before the show. I pulled out the tuxedo. The back of my closet. And i put it on and off. We went and being sort of fine and flipping and being very george and really. I think it said two things that said men didn't was held up to the same standards as women. They can just pull out an old tuxedo and be done with it and no one's ever going to criticize them and they wouldn't be. They wouldn't be judged up and down. But i think he was also saying. Hey i shot my closet. I don't have to actually go get a new tuxedo every single time. There's a red carpet and sort of up this level of excess and waste. And i think you saw that sort of casual mark now become a trend. I mean i think last year so joaquin phoenix. He said he was going to wear one. Stella mccartney tuxedo through the entire season he stuck to his word which i am obsessed with that because it was really about sustainability. He wore designer. That was about being sustainable. Who's working very very hard to make that you know part of her mantra in her designing there is a lot of excess in waste in industry and i think to have designers really sit up and pay attention to that is really great. I mean i think olivia colman also at the twenty twenty oscars was wearing stella mccartney gown that she designed for her but she use sustainable velvet. And i think it's elements of this that starting to come back into what fashion can be like. We're gonna make pretty close a. We're also going to do it with our world. You know on top of mind and even when someone is thinking about what designer who they will wear they can send a message so what did say when someone chooses to wear designer like christian cyrano on the red carpet the designer you choose also sends a message. What the designers that you do choose right now. Stand for a lot of different things. I love that. You said christian syrian. He's an incredible designer. You know he was. He came off a project runway but he has always been the one designer in this industry. That has sort of celebrated the underrepresented people who are maybe not your typical fashion plates. And he's always been size inclusive and gender nor conforming and all of these things that you feel are not part of the industry. But he's made a part of the industry. So i think when you have a celebrity put on a christian syrian gown. You're literally saying you know what i advocate. What he stands for. I love that e stands for size inclusive of the ice love that he stands for. Everybody is allowed into this fashion game. And i think that i love. We're not just seeing this on the red carpet but even in the political sphere and just other places other examples of using major fashion moments to elevate a certain designer or to take a stand. Oh yeah. I've been fashion now. Taking a global stage. I mean the internet's made everything so much more accessible to us. The world is a lot smaller. Everybody is you know it's everybody as a democratic in that way we're fashion is really for the masses and michelle obama's actually the perfect example from the very beginning. She said i'm going to celebrate. You know young up and coming designers as well as established ones and she had no problem j. crew but she can make someone like jason wu who was not designer. Anyone had heard previous michelle obama a household name and i think there were so many examples of designers like that from america she really celebrated and brought to the forefront and i think politics i mean i was saying earlier. Politics in the red carpet is not just of merged into one. I think you can't separate those things anymore because whatever you do and wherever you are says a lot about you and what you stand for and so heading into this year's oscars thinking ahead to the red carpet fashion advice if any would you give to this year's nominees. I want them to go for it. Just go foreign. Have fun you know. I think i think people are looking to them to to say like you know what i want a little bit escape. I want a little bit of. I think we went through a period. Where an of course. I was part of this but like we're i think celebrities could be a little bit apprehensive because they were so worried about being on the best dressed lists the worst than you know and being classified into one of those things. It's not a monica. That really goes away because it is there that night but every year. It's dug up again and i and i it sort of infamy and i think there is a lot of fear of that but i think now back fear sort of dissipated i think people have wanted to sort of say you know what i'm just gonna do it. I'm just going to have fun. I'm just going to be a little bit fearless. In the way i attack things and like one of paltrow someone that's always been like that and doesn't care really where people say. I think she's always looked incredible on the carpet. So i think that sort of that sort of confidence in and sort of shots really really translates on the red carpet. Now enter joe if you can think back of all. The oscar looks ever ever ever to the beginning of oscar history. What was your favorite. Look of all time really. Oh my god. That's not fair to all all time. I mean i mean that's i mean we're talking about grace kelly in her green gown. But we're talking about audrey hepburn. i'm. I'm always obsessed with share and and barbra streisand stronger than those bob. Macky emmy talking. About digging up the looks. But showing up in sheer close out of the oscars with a headdress like headdress. To me is like wow and of course only share could pull out often. I haven't even really seen again ever but you know i. I look at like and these are classic classic oscar movements but like nicole kidman wearing that dior couture gown that was neon green and trimmed in for an embroidered. Everything on paper. That was wrong about ereck harper. Like she broke every rule and look fantastic. And of course i love julia on her valentino's so so so much of course of her pink gown has been you know legendary and how berry i mean she when she wants. She looked stunning to Hilary swank the too so you know what i there is. No no because you wanted one favorite all talk. that's fair. yeah lots to look forward to on the red carpet josie. Thank you so much. It's been a pleasure as always. Oh my god thank you. Thank you so much. And i cannot wait to see all the glamour on the oscar harpist. Stay tuned put a nice look down red carpet memory lane meaningful messages behind those fashion choices and today. We'll come back right after this. It's twenty twenty one and it's finally okay to talk about mental health and deserving joy. Humans just aren't meant to keep everything inside. It really can make us sick and let me tell you from experience. Therapy is everything. So maybe you need some motivation or some tools to help you. 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I know i only had one red carpet experience. You also have only done it once. Yeah and you know. It's always so interesting because you see these things for years on tv. But one thing. I've learned about working in tv. Is that. It's never quite the same. Those camera angles. They they go a long way to make something looking far more like grand and extravagant than it really is. Obviously it was very cool but it was different from the from the moment. I walked into my first tv station. I didn't internship. And i was like oh this is tv but this year specifically and really the last couple of years people finally are saying something with what they're wearing. It's not just who. What are you saying yes. I think that that's what's so cool about it. And obviously the red carpet is kind of the ultimate place for because there are so many people. But i think that it's it's not only there. It's also at the inauguration or so many different places where fashion take center stage and like you said it is about the message. You know what you're trying to show. What new designer are you trying to give a leg up and help get their name out there So i think that it's so fascinating all of it. Sorry i don't remember. And i should have looked. What were you wearing last year. I do not feel bad gender. It's funny because i had to go back and look it was twenty nine thousand nine hundred. I went and going into this. I'd never covered something like that so i was lost. I got for that event. And one thing that i do know from just being on tv is that i'm always looking for a pop of color So i ended up going with like this kind of reddish or orange strapless dress and it was nice because it wasn't too tight. I didn't feel like i couldn't breathe but going into it. I had no idea. I was like how over the top should i go like be under dressed. Yes and that's because i think no matter what position you are even if you're smashed between people in a press box. It's a red carpet. How big do i go. I tried on a lot of. Because i never have trouble taking chances and then getting in trouble later like i love doing that and tv news. I'm like oh you didn't like that. Oh oops. Let's go too far so i thought about doing it but then i pulled back because i started thinking about. What do i wanna say. And it was for me sustainability. And i have one brand that i always go to because i've done enough research on who. They are what they are and i think anybody on the outside my friends who are thinking. This is her. Maybe only time ever on a red carpet. that's what she wore. It was not the glam. It was just was. Just simple in me so yeah. It's so funny. Because i actually of course this morning i wake up and i'm rolling on the social media's and i saw that you posted something about sustainability and like it's not just for hippies. It's about like lights survival. Yes i loved it. That is your message because it's so important and the fact that you live that life like gender. I cannot use paper towels without being. Like what would ginger say right now. I'm trying i met this week. Okay so i love that. Sustainability is your message through and through but sustainability. We have to make fashionable. That's what i always say whether it is paper towel choice or i'm trying to change my front lawn away from grass and into something more sustainable. You know how the neighborhood watch goes on that one. I know best anyway. So let's get back to fashion the year that you were there. Do you remember any standout dresses. Or maybe guys to the you know the suits. Yeah okay so twenty. Nine thousand nine hundred. It was the year of j.lo's like mirror. Pieced tom for dress soon. That really stuck out. Dna guerrero's a gold look was amazing. It was kind of like a line dress. I think you know i'm not. I'm not quite the fashion myself. But he was the year black panther. So i remember paying attention to her but twenty nineteen hands. Down was the year of billy porter. Oh the tuck stress because he shut down that night like soon as he showed up that was it. That's what everyone was talking about. So if you're talking. Twenty nine thousand nine oscars fashion billy porter billy porter and people say that fashion can be a waste of time and you know all this but at the same time you do say something. So as much as. I love for sustainability. Do i wanna see the same dress every single year. You know i don't. I don't think so so. I do love that idea. And it's like when when tiffany haddish like the first big really expensive dress that she bought and she wore multiple times and it was not only to the point of sustainability but related ability. Because everyone at home it's like oh yeah like you go you wash it or get it dry cleaned and boom of course why would you only wear something one time and the rental ability is really the part that makes it all find to me like you can say and do whatever you want as long as somebody else were last year like. I'm happy to where billy porter's tuck dress. I'd be happy to take that on. So i think that's probably maybe that's the compromise or the answer between is let the close say things multiple times for multiple people and like you said the rental clothing market is big and extremely helpful. Extremely well we know it will be different. But i know you're gonna look gorgeous. So what are you wearing. tell us now. And what are you saying with what your wearing well. At least what. I'll say right now is that i don't know i don't know i think part of it is what we've been talking about. I've i haven't consciously thought like. Oh what message do i want. But it's very much like you know not trying to obviously go and bring the bank for address that one time. I certainly would like to wear something. That's been warned before whether it's by ear. Not so i don't know it's so completely up mir. I'm not even sure we get our intentions together. It's like the beginning of a yoga class. Yes but yet. It's about fashion. Our intention will be set soon and we will see ginny. Because i know either way no matter what you wear even as the exact same thing with the same here too. You're gonna look so good. Because now i'm remembering the orange red. Donate thank you so much. Thank you ginger. I can't wait to see you in person someday soon. Take so we're going to introduce you to arguably the most important person on the red carpet. Lauren salman lauren. I hope they told you that. You're my big get for this. Podcast like this do it. I did not want a big star. I did not want. Because i really think for anybody who loves the oscars or doesn't know anything about the oscars you're the person we wanna hear from. So tell me like if you were going into a cocktail party. How do you describe your job at the oscars. It depends on what day. Because what i love about. My job is that it changes every day but in terms of the sound bite of what i do. It's it's really about getting everyone in alignment and on the same page to make the production happen. And that's the thing i don't know if people fully understand what it takes to do hours of live tv but it's a lot and it does take a lot of planning and you've done several other types of events from olympics two world cups lot of sports. It seemed like when i was looking in your resume. Would you would you like in this to any of those sports or is an oscars red carpet a sport. All its own. I think you're right. I think it's a sport all onto its own but you know there's a start a starting line and there's a finish line and at the end of the day it really comes down to working as a team to get done. You know it's live. There's a risk to it and it's about being able to respond to what's happening and doing your best to plan but also knowing that you know the best plans might not be the best plans when when showed it comes around so just our best to prepare and of course making sure that everyone is safe and making sure that we have fun while doing it. So what would you say would be one of those glowing moments where maybe a surprise happened that. You didn't expect that you're like wow. Thank goodness that happened. I think you know nothing can can compare to once first oscars ever i had come from event. Planning and my mom was an event planner. So it's like in my bones and studied event management and production in school and being on the red carpet for my first time and realizing the magnitude and the legacy and the importance of the oscars. It's not just the night that were in there. But it's history that you're creating. And i just i remember looking around and i had you know all of these stars that i had i had seen growing up or seen my favorite movies and i'm there and they're all looking at me for direction of where to go and what to do and in that moment i recognize like that that my role and our role as a team is to take care of them and to ensure that this this evening goes as as their wildest imaginations dreams have imagined. I just remember standing there being like okay. You're important you're important. You're an important your important and everyone is a vip that night and so if you go back to that memory of that first time are there certain names that were like oh my gosh. It's so. And so i have an adoration and admiration for ashley thrown. So every time. I see her. I just get a little like. Oh my gosh amazing. But i also recognize the stars are incredible and also the other nominees are credible as well because everyone that night is is a nominee and that so exciting you know the fact that their life's work is being recognized. It's an honor to be amongst them. My one time on the carpet was a couple years ago and it happened to be one of those pouring rain l. a. days and this is why i wanted to have you on the podcast because i thought you know you can forecast for so long but it does seem like the oscars has a bit of a rain problem. It has happened more than once. And i got to see the operation and and i thought who is running this that they've got the most orchestrated people with sticks pouring the things off the sides. It was really incredible. So congratulations thank you for sure. That's a team effort. And that's pivoting and responding to disaster responding to chaos and prior to getting into production. I was very interested in being in emergency medicine. And one of the things. We learned an emt training was spread. The calm not the chaos. Chaos chaos is contagious. And that's my motto. When it comes to production is to spread the com- how big is the team. I mean your team has to be huge. Just numbers wise. What i saw that day seemed at least in the dozens. I had one hundred. But i'm sure there's more end. The hundreds at aren't that you don't see on the carpet you know. Hundreds of thousands of people work the oscars. And i think that's the thing too. Is you know you you sign up for this job. And there are expectations or any production that you sign up for and you're like okay. This is what is expected of me but on show day it comes to just showing up in your best self and being fully present to respond and be like all right cool. I'm gonna be holding that dress. Oh great i'm going to be the one stitching up that person's dress that broke or whatever like just being able to respond as necessary so at this point we're best friends lawrence so you can tell me anything so i just need a little something a little dirt little like okay even if you don't name a name like what's the one moment where you clutched your heart like. Oh my gosh. i can't believe this is happening. And then what was. How did you make a solution. There's there's so many different moments throughout the years that just add up. And i'm sure you relate to this. But i feel like that. Sometimes there's a bit of production ninja like the week. After i sleep so soundly i look back and i'm like how did i pull off that twenty one day. Yeah do that like what was what was the adrenaline that got through from going down to the carpet into the show. Up to the governor's ball all of the different things that are happening simultaneously that day with seven people talking in one year twenty people talking in the other year. The most famous person you've ever seen asking for your help. You know that moment that. I was mentioning before i had shirley's thrown and jennifer lawrence and they were hugging and all these people wanted to walk by. And just stop there hugging. It's such a great moment. He's like they're hugging. They're having a great moment. They're having a sister moment. Don't interrupt it. I always think that we do a two hour. Live program every morning on good morning america and i always give the biggest accolades to our director because i think about what she does. Daily in the number of moving parts on a regular show pre covid was wild and speaking of this year for the carpet. It is different. I mean you're not gonna. We're not gonna have the that i saw. It's not the same setup right. It's it won't be the same setup and it won't be the oscars that people you know. No but i think that is also exciting. Because it's going to be different. And i think over this year if it's taught me anything as someone who has lived and breathed production for over fifteen years. This year was all about adapting. How do we change. How do we pivot. How do we innovate. And it's honestly what i think is so magical about the production community is. This is what we've been designed to do. I imagine too. It's not like we're going to see physical we're not going to see a pirelli's stance around like hand sanitizer here in the middle of carpet. Are you going to be like have one of those waitressing belts and then just double fisted parral for people like how does that part work and are we going to see any of that while we're watching well two things you need to know about me because we're besties gun is. If i wear a dress. I will have the deepest pockets. Ever seen with my walkies and everything in them. But i'm notorious for wearing my knee high black boots underneath my dress that have my cell phone and my pure l. and my wife's everything ready girl scout style right underneath the no one can see it on the gown that i wear but i think this year it's gonna be about safety and safety is first those pure l. stands they're going to be available but maybe not in the shot but definitely available to everyone and making sure that everyone is a safe as possible when i worked in weddings for a very long time for almost a decade as i was getting into tv in prior to Doing what i do. Now as even fifteen bussing tables at weddings and big ones right. So i think there has to be some like you said event. Planning this is just happens to be the biggest wedding out there. One hundred percent. And i think you nailed the nail on the head wear i prior to production. I've done plenty of weddings and this is just you know weddings for two hundred fifty people of your life the most famous people and everyone and they're all the bride exactly everyone's the bride and anything can happen. Yeah do you try to emulate the wedding planner jennifer lopez character. That's what i think about every time to like i think about you now. Have you with a little walkie. A little mike. And i'm like obviously that's who she plays was not an oscar film. However it's actually really funny. My my fiance and i met at a wedding. I was the wedding planner and he was the wedding singer. And so i often say you know. I'm jay leno right. Yes you're one hundred. Glad that worked out. You probably are so particular with your napkin. Perfect like cartoon. We are best friends for one. Other reason in this has nothing to do with the oscars. This year. i'm meteorologist. I love the atmosphere. I do stories for the last twenty years on climate change environment and you are huge into sustainability. Is that something that you take into. Account for every production including the oscars as much as i. Can you know my when i was in college. I studied production. And i got a second degree in conservation. Resource management by area of study was. What is it taken. What does it cost the environment for us to be entertained from a production standpoint. There's so many factors to consider so if we're able to just do one one change great if we can do another change in the next year. Great i think when it comes to sustainability overall. It's it takes time. It takes education. And i'm super proud of what the academy continues to do. And to incorporate from a sustainability standpoint You talked about forecasting. And that's what you do. And that's essentially what we as. Production people do is were professional forecasters. We don't have the clouds in the sky and we're trying to forecast future and forecast production that hopefully will make people smile and laugh and celebrate things that they love when they're at home. Do you have any pre show rituals like okay. I have to meditate for twenty minutes. I have to get you know. Do you have any of that now. That you've been doing this long to okay. One is the night before the red carpet. I go down with my coordinator and there's no one on the carpet and it's completely still talk down on the carpet and just look up and it's still and it's quiet and typically we're on hollywood boulevard and there's like this hum of electricity the hub of the city looking up at the sky and i've done it for the past nine years and it's the best. It's just that calm before the storm but hopefully there's no storm and that's what i do the night before and my day of ritual is again in those moments before before the excitement again now the stands are full. The fans are there. The camera setup doing their last live hit. Everyone's in position. And i walked down to make sure all the press is locked in before i tell my colleague were all locked in and ready to go and that moment where you feel the gears of production. Just lock near like here. We go and i love that moment of just walking down and doing my best to make eye contact with all of our colleagues olive are security guards all of the press. That's there to all work together. And make this this incredible show possible and i walked the end and i just go to the front of the seven repeat were ready. And if anyone on april twenty fifth sees a woman with black boots to her knees and address over them with pockets. You'll know it's lauren. I am so happy. I got to meet lauren. And if you're like you're going to be looking for her on that red carpet on oscar sunday. 'cause she tries to stay out of the camera but hey if she's fix an address or she's getting somebody some pure l. You know those deep pockets and her address are going to come in handy. I'm looking for the black boots to all right so we do have one more episode before the big night. Don't miss it. Because chris kelly jason gina and i all come back together. They're gonna share their expert analysis. They're hot takes as we go into the big night. And i promise it will help you watch the oscars with a lot more. You know information but also a lot more fun and if you like this episode give him some love five star rating. Maybe adding a little nice review. Oh thank you anyway. It'll mean a lot to us. Thank you so much for listening inside. The oscars is a production of abc audio produced by matt. Wolf are producer. Liz alessi special banks to josh cohen. Trevor hastings john. Green taryn hartman. Beth mullen kerry strasbourg elizabeth brousseau. 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