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A highlight from A Dame Trade Deep Dive With Ben Thompson, Plus Seth Meyers and Million-Dollar Picks
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We did the big chill. It was very, very exciting. I have Kyle Brandt coming on Monday's podcast. I'm just gonna tell you the movie now because it is gonna be the best moment of your weekend if you spent two hours watching this classic. We're doing Toy Soldiers. It really brings everything possible to the table. So if you wanna watch it ahead of time, there it is. That podcast is going up Monday night. If you wanna hear stuff about the debate, we have Tara Paul and Mary's podcast, Somebody's Gotta Win. That reacted to it as well as the press box with Brian Curtis and David Shoemaker. So there you go. Our debate coverage has been on point. Also, higher learning. Van and Rachel had Larry Elder on this weekend. It made a lot of noise, man. That podcast is great. I hope you check that out as well. Hope you're checking out theringer .com. And on this podcast, gonna talk about the dame trade at the top. We're gonna bring in Ben Thompson from the Techery newsletter, which he's been on this podcast I think four weeks ago. And he's a huge Bucks fan. He's gonna give the Bucks fan side of things. We're gonna do million dollar picks. And then old friend Seth Meyers talking about a whole bunch of stuff. So really good podcast. It's all next. First, our friends from Pro Jam. What's up? All right, I'm taping this on Thursday afternoon. Normally when there's a big MBA trade, I always do the emergency trade reaction right after the podcast. But we just put up a podcast on Tuesday. So I decided to play it a little differently this time. I wanted a little distance, I wanted to listen to stuff, read stuff, and try to form some big picture opinions coming out of this. So I have four smaller ones, then one big one. First one, I thought Portland did an incredible job with this trade. I really liked this trade, especially everyone was trying to bully them in June and July about, oh, you got to take Miami's offer. You just got to. It's where he wants to go. It's the only offer you're going to get. And guess what? They waited. They played it perfectly. They stared Miami down, and they got a much better deal. First of all, they get the Drew Holiday piece that they can flip into a bunch out of their stuff, which we'll talk about in one second. I love the DeAndre Ayton gamble. As you know, on this podcast, I am a big DeAndre Ayton guy. Not in the sense of I'm the biggest fan of his in the world, but I'm a fan of the asset. I just think I love the valued assets, no matter what it is. Whatever market we're talking about, DeAndre Ayton, 18 and 10 for his career, 60 % field goals percentage, 25 years old. He's played in 45 playoff games. He played four rounds in the 2021 finals. Last year, he got his ass kicked by Jokic. Oh, sorry. Like, that never happens. And Phoenix just sold on him, which I can't wait to talk about. But just from a Portland standpoint, they not only get Ayton in whatever they get for holiday, they get the 29 first, they get the two swaps, and they dump Nurkic. Nurkic hasn't had a healthy start to finish all the way through the playoffs here since 2018, which I'm positive was a long time ago. He's basically 12 and 8. He's, you know, a 50 % shooter. I made a list of the top 30 centers. I encourage you to do this at home, because what's more fun than making lists of NBA centers? I can't imagine anything. I made a list of who I thought were the best assets of the center position for talent, contract, everything. He was 29th on my list. The only person I had ahead of him who's technically a starter, unless you start talking about the Detroit or Charlotte guys, was Zubats on the Clippers. I thought he was the 29th best center asset in the league. And Phoenix, you know, just quickly to go to them, they're trying to win this year. They got worse. They turned Ayton's money into Nurkic and Grayson Allen and Nasir Little. Grayson Allen, we already know with him, he can't play in playoff series. We saw him 22. We saw it last year. I heard and read in some places like that, I got two rotation players. Did they? Is Nurkic a playoff rotation player? Is Grayson Allen a playoff rotation player? Because I'm positive he's not. So for the same money that they were spending on Ayton, they got three guys that I don't think are going to help them. In 25, the money comes down a little bit to 23 million just for Nurkic and Little, which is 7 million less than Ayton. And then in 26, that money goes up to 25 .5. But I don't understand what Phoenix was doing. Why not wait to see if Ayton clicks with Vogel? Vogel has such a good history with centers. He rejuvenated Dwight Howard on the 2020 Lakers. He basically created Roy Hibbert's career in 2013 with the defense verticality thing. I thought he was going to do a good job with Ayton. I'm stunned that they gave up on him. I'm almost waiting for one of those, now they tell us stories when, you know, that's where Brian Curtis calls them, where like a week after something happens, there's this kind of notebook dump where it's like, here's seven terrible DeAndre Ayton stories. So maybe that'll happen. But for Phoenix just to be like, cool, we locked this down, man. We got Nurkic. You're trying to win the title. You have KD and Booker and Beal. And like, what are you guys doing? Anyway, from Portland's standpoint, I love the Ayton thing. I love that they didn't get bullied. And I know they're going to turn Drew Holliday into something. So this to me was at least an A minus for them, for where they were two months ago, where Dave's like, I want to go to Miami. That's it. And if you don't trade me there, that's kind of fucked up. And they made this work as it got reported that, uh, I think in the athletic, that he expanded his list to Brooklyn and to Milwaukee in the last two weeks. And that's what Portland was waiting on. You know, they were banking on the fact that he's a competitive dude. He's one of the best 75 pairs ever. He wanted a situation settled. So, you know, you wait, you wait, you wait, they expand the list and then you go. Uh, there's a Drew Holliday piece to this. That's awesome. He becomes a contender prize. I wouldn't call this a Drew Holliday sweepstakes. I reserved sweepstakes for the superstars, but it's a mini sweepstakes. This is somebody that could have a huge impact on the playoff race. You know, not only the usual suspects, everybody's talking about Boston, ironically, Miami is a really good fit for him. And in some ways, um, I'm a little more scared of them with Miami than Dame in some ways, especially at a much cheaper contract with giving up less and keeping some of their assets. Philly, if they could pull it off, they have to be in there in Golden State, Minnesota. I think I have to mention Sacramento, I think is a team that if they could figure out how to get Drew without giving up their core, which is basically Keegan Murray and Sabonis and Fox, like that's, you know, could Davion Mitchell be in that trade with some, with a salary and some picks, who knows. The team that I love for Drew Holliday is OKC. I have OKC, you know, I started doing my MBA research for the over -under spot and I haven't landed on a number for them yet, but to me, they feel like a high forties team with Chet and with the growth of their young guys. And if you just like, let's say they traded Lou Dort and a bunch of their picks, maybe two firsts and two of their lesser picks or three firsts and a second, whatever it is. And they just say, fuck it. And they get Drew and you put him with Giddy and SGA and Jalen fucking awesome Williams and Chet Holmgren and all these other dudes they have, that might be a top three team in the West. I mean, that, that's starting to give me some early 2010s OKC vibes. So where he goes is going to be important. I just feel like there was so much Drew Holliday slander the last couple of days. You know, he's one of my favorite players. Even Haralabob, who was the chairman of the board of the Drew Holliday fan club for years and would have the benefit dinners there and, you know, just did a lot of yeoman's work on that front. And even he was like, yeah, yeah, Dame's better than Drew. That trade makes sense for Milwaukee. I was hurt, Haralabob. I was 100 % hurt by that. But you know, Drew got his ass kicked by Jimmy Butler in the playoffs last year. I get it. It happens. Jimmy was unbelievable. I feel like he would have kicked anybody's ass. By the way, why is Drew Holliday guarding Jimmy Butler? That speaks more to some of the issues with Milwaukee. He was never supposed to be a point guard and a creator. I think he was always better as an off -the -ball guy. We saw that with Rondo and New Orleans and just in general. I want to see him with a point guard. I want to see him just being unleashed, not having the ball a lot, just worrying about hitting threes, being an occasional, you know, make -shit -happen guy and being like the third or fourth best guy on a team without having the offensive responsibility to have. All their half court issues got blamed on him for the last couple of years. And I get it. They weren't like an awesome half -court team, even the other one in the finals, but I really value that dude. I had him, even I did the trade value list in August and I had him 37th and I had Dame 23rd. I think he's one of the best 30 players in the league still. He's 33 years old, which, you know, I'm going to talk in a second about when guards hit their mid -30s, but just in general, I think he's a real asset. If he goes to a team like the Celtics and they can keep Derek White and Tatum and Brown in the center, it's like, look out, man. So little mini sweepstakes, rarely do we get the trade, but then we still get another asset to talk about. Thank you for everyone involved in the trade. And then the fourth small point is just that, you know, not rocket science, Milwaukee bought some Giannis time here. They have one of the best 20 players of all time. They were staring down the barrel of a situation that was not good. I was talking about it on this podcast in late June and early July. I thought he was going to put them on the clock. I thought Mark Lasry selling his stake was a really bad sign for all of this because that dude is smart. As I laid out in June, that guy is really smart. And if he's feeling like, you know what, it's time for me to sell my buck stock, that makes me nervous. And then all the stuff that Giannis said and did, which I thought he did really fairly and really smartly. And I think that dude's about titles and that's it. And I know we say that about players, but I think in his case, I don't think he cares about, you know, what's my legacy, how do I compare against Dirk DeWhisky, any of that stuff. I just think he wants more rings. I mean, think about the guys who have won two rings out of the best 35 guys on my list of my pyramid. Those are all guys in my top 35 that won multiple wings. You go to the one -ring side, Jerry West, Oscar, Moses, Dirk, Jokic, Giannis, Pettit, Garnett, Kawhi, Rick Barry. That's the list he's on now. I certainly don't think he's looking at that list going, I got to get away from these guys, but it's a slightly different list. I think when you win multiple rings in multiple situations, it elevates you in a certain way. I think he fundamentally understands that at least a little bit. I want to be the best player since LeBron James. I think that's a thing that he wants. How am I going to do that? I need more rings. I need more finals trips. He knew from last year and maybe even the Boston series that they just weren't good enough. Whether this trade is going to be the thing that propels them, we'll find out, but he's been in the league 10 years, two MVPs, five first teams, two second teams, and now we have this little two -year window. Kawhi and the Raptors was a one -year window. This is a two -year window, I feel like. With Giannis, he's got two years left in his deals. So does Lopez. Middleton has two in a player option. Dame's got two, and then this crazy $120 million player option extension thingy that he has that just keeps going and going. It's probably two years. There's a world where this could go terribly this season, at least for what the expectations are, and then maybe it becomes Kawhi, Raptors. Maybe Giannis is like, you know what? That didn't work. Trade me. And the Bucks, who have no picks left and no future, they look at it next summer, and they go, all right. We tried it. Giannis, what can we get for you? Dame, what can we get? And they just do a reboot, rehaul. Remember, they won in 2021, which just takes so much pressure out of this. It's so much different than the Clippers situation, where they went all in on Kawhi and Paul George. They give up all those picks and SGA, and they've gotten nothing out of it. They haven't even made the finals. So it's got to happen. I think they at least probably have to make the finals. If they get bounced in round two, do I think Giannis is going to stay because they made this Dame -Mower trade? Probably not. So that leads to the big question, is how good of a trade was this? So there's a big picture angle on Dame, and it's going to sound negative, but I really don't want it to sound negative because I think Dame, I voted for him for NBA Top 75. I think he's been one of the best guards in the last 15 years. I think there's a ton of great things you can say, and there's a chance that he goes to Milwaukee, and this thing is fucking awesome. I know any Celtic fan I've talked to, including Isaiah, who's helping produce this podcast today, the Giannis -Dame pick and roll is just terrifying. Other than Jokic and Murray, it's going to be the single most unstoppable offensive play in the league. It is. We are conceding that point. The spot Dame is in right now, big picture -wise, it's weird. He's a superstar, but he's not, and we've seen guys like this before. I judge superstars by, do you have the resume statistically, and is your team succeeding consistently at a certain level? You can't totally say that about Dame. He's never been on a 55 -win team. He's missed the playoffs completely four times in 11 years. He said three first -round exits. He made the Final Four once in 2019, which was really lucky because Golden State and Houston were the two best teams, and then they got smoked. He's never been on a true contender ever. Instinctively, you go, well, that's not his fault. Who's he played with? Well, he played with LaMarcus Aldridge and CJ McCollum and a couple other guys, but not really anybody. The reason I'm putting this up is there's a success element that he has not had yet that for somebody with his resume is actually kind of unusual. I went and I looked up how many guards in the history of the league averaged 22 points a game for their career and played at least 700 games. I thought the list would be like 20. I didn't know. I didn't know what I was walking into. Only I think 75 guys have averaged 22 a game. So I went and I looked up the list, and it was 10 guys, 700 games, 22 a game for their career. There were some guys who came close like David Thompson, who I think is one of the best guards I've seen in the last 45 years, but had a short career and had some drug issues. He didn't make it. He didn't play enough games. Pete Maravich, 24 .2 points a game, but he didn't play enough games. Kyrie hasn't played enough games yet. Bradley Beale is five games away. I'm actually kind of glad the cutoff's at 700 so we don't have to talk about him. And then Mitchell and Trey Young aren't there yet. There's only 10 guys that made it, and the 10 guys are all fucking awesome. And again, I mentioned this in the context of Dame, who we think he is versus the success he's had. So the 10 guys, Michael Jordan, 30 .1, Jerry West, 27 .1, Allen Averson, 26 .7, George Gervin, 26 .2, Oscar Robertson, 25 .7, Kobe, 25 .0, Harden, 24 .7, Curry, 24 .6, Wade, 22, barely made it, and Russ, 22 .4, and then Dame is at 25 again. All right, what does he not have that those other guys have? Well, MJ, don't need to talk about him. Don't need to talk about Jerry West, who's the freaking logo. Allen Averson, pretty good comparison, right? Big stats, really memorable player, but not a ton of success. Here's the difference. Averson made the finals once. He won an MVP. Dame has done neither of those things. George Gervin was the best scoring guard of the 70s. He made two final fours. He had some bad luck. He really, in 79, really should have came close. And some of it's on him, right? He could have come through. Bobby Dandridge is the one that ended up coming through for the Bullets. They lose. But two final fours, he had four top five MVP finishes, five first teams, four second teams. He was just unassailably the best guard in the league until MJ. Oscar Robertson, don't need to go through him, but he won a ring and an MVP. Kobe, five rings and an MVP. Eleven first teams for Kobe, by the way. James Harden, three final fours, an MVP, six top five MVP finishes, six first team MBAs. And even though Harden has never made the finals as the best guy, he made it with OKC as the sixth man, you could build a contender around Harden. We saw it. We haven't really seen it with Dame. I think that's a fair thing to bring up. Curry, four rings, two MVPs, you know, the Curry thing. Dwayne Wade, three rings, two top five MVPs, two first teams, three second teams. He's more in the Dame waters a little bit, but he had the 2006 finals and he was the second best guy with LeBron on those heat teams. And then Westbrook, who you would say, well, Dame had a better career than Westbrook. Did he? Westbrook made the finals in 2012. He was second best guy on that team. Almost made the finals in 2016. He won an MVP. He had two first teams and five second teams. It's at least like a real argument. And I think when you look at Dame, he only had that one 2019 round three, got bounced. He's only had one top five MVP finish. He's only had one first team MBA and four second team MBAs. Really, really good top 75 career. But the piece that's missing is, have you been on a really good team? Have you made a real run at it? Which is why, you know, I think this Milwaukee trade is so much fun. This is his real chance. I get nervous about a couple things with this trade. One is that, you know, if you look at the 33 and older guards who average 22 points a game in a season. Jordan did it twice. Curry did it twice. Still going. Kobe did it three times. Jerry West twice. Sam Jones once. Hal Greer once. That's the entire list. Now the NBA is different. We have more three -pointers now. It's easier to score. Scoring is the easiest it's ever been. Guys can play at a longer age. So I'm not ruling out Dane being good for the next three years. But just pointing out, history is saying, be a little nervous. In general with guards, like Chris Paul, we saw from age 35 to 36 to 37, like it just dropped. But that's two years older than Dane. Maybe it's fine. I just worry about guards. We have not a lot of instances with guards in their mid -30s of them either peaking as players or being able to sustain whatever success they had during their prime. It always starts to go down with really no exceptions, except for Steph Curry. He's the only non -exception. So if your case is Dane's as good as Steph Curry, or Dane can be as potent as Steph Curry on a winning team, like, you know, Steph Curry is better than Dane, but I'm not going to argue that he couldn't do a lot of the stuff that Curry did in Golden State. The bigger issue for me, the age I'm definitely worried about. Dane has not been healthy the last couple of years, and we have not seen him play nine straight months at playoff basketball with a big bullseye on his back. Everybody coming after you, you're the best team. We haven't seen him do that ever, much less than the last couple of seasons. So can he stay up? Can he stay healthy? That's one thing. The defense with Dane just got kind of swept under the rug the last couple days, and I don't really understand it because there's five categories of defensive player I feel like. There's excellent, there's good, there's average, there's not so good, and then there's bad. And I think Dane's a bad defender. I think the stats back it up. Like, his defensive rating last year was 245 out of the guards. He's the 245th guard for defensive rating. You know, 117 .4 individual defensive rating is 483 overall. Portland's team's always defensively, it was the Achilles heel for them. Partly because of Dane, because he couldn't guard anybody. He's too small. And, you know, think about what we saw from the playoffs the last couple years. I think about the 2020 bubble Celtics playoffs, not infrequently, because I think that team had a chance to potentially win a title. What happened? Everyone hunted Kemba Walker. It was hunting season. It's like, where is he? Got to get a switch. Got to get Kemba Walker guarding somebody who's bigger, or got to beat him off the dribble, and it just became a hunt session with him. And basically, he got played out of the league. He's not in the league anymore. You know, we had this with Isaiah Thomas, too, in the mid -2010s. I think it's been an issue with Kyrie Irving. The Celtics certainly went at him in the playoff series with Brooklyn a couple years ago. Curry, you saw, who I think is a better defender than people give him credit for, but the And he's a much better defender than Dame is. Jordan Poole is somebody that got hunted in playoff series recently. Chris Paul, obviously, is a big one. Jalen Brunson, remember what the Heat did to him? Mitchell, when he was on Utah, this was a huge issue. And then Trae Young, obviously. My fear with Dame is he's a DH, and I think in Portland, part of the reasons he was able to put up the stats he did was because he wasn't playing defense, right? It was just, how many points can I score? My team isn't very good, and I'm just going to do my thing. He's an incredible offensive player. But how much of a trade -off is the defense, right? Well, you think, all right, well, Milwaukee, they're really good defensively. They'll be able to protect him. Here's the team. Giannis, Dame, Lopez, Portis, Middleton, Conaton, Beauchamp, Crowder. Who's guarding Trae Young on this team? Who's guarding Jason Tatum? Here's a partial list of guys that I don't think this team will be able to guard this season. Devin Booker, Tatum, Butler, Trae Young, Kyrie, Curry. Who's going to be chasing Curry around the screens? Dame lowered? Good luck. SGA, Luca, Mitchell, Murray, Edwards, Brunson, Ja, Garland, Fox, Halburn. Are they going to be able to cover Derek White? I don't know. The way this team is constructed, they are not going to have the ability to guard other guards at all, which means they're just going to have to be in a shooting match with them, right? It's going to be not much different than what's going to happen with Phoenix, where they're just literally going to have to outscore the other team. I've just watched too much playoff basketball over the last couple years, where it's like, if you have that weak link on defense, and you're playing a team that's smart enough, they're going to go after that weak link. Like, think about them against the Lakers, right? The Lakers figure their crunch time. Let's say they make the finals. It's Milwaukee and the Lakers, and Lakers crunch time. They're going to have LeBron and Davis and Austin Reeves and, I don't know, a shooter and a point guard, whatever. All they're going to be doing is trying to find where Dame is on the court and going after him. What about when they play Boston? Boston puts out White and Brogdon and Tatum and Brown and a center, and all they're going to be doing is trying to make sure Dame is covering somebody who has the ball who's now torturing him. I think it's a real problem for them. And what's funny is they gave up Drew's defense and, you know, they, what they gave up on defense, which is significant, and they gained an offense, it might end up just being a wash and they might just be a different version of the same team where they still have a huge flaw. It's just on the other end of the court. I'm just shocked that nobody brought up the defense. I agree he's an amazing offensive player and what's cool about this trade and what I'm excited about as a basketball fan is, can he go up a level? Right? A lot of these stats he put up, especially the last couple years. They didn't mean anything. They were, he was on bad teams. Like, who cares? Ultimately, Bradley Beal scored 30 points a game on the Wizards. Who cares? I think most really good offensive players, if they're on a bad team, can get between 25 and 30 a night. Can you do it nine months in a row? Can you do it when you're getting hunted on defense all over the place? How much can Milwaukee protect him? And what does he have in the tank at age 33 with 900 plus games on the O 'Dominor already? I'm still afraid of the Bucks, but people have, like, FanDuel had them as best odds in basketball and I think most people feel like they're the favorite now. I don't feel like there's a favorite. I think you can go through every team. Boston, I could, I'm scared of Porzingis. What's going to happen with Jalen Brown out there? He has contracts. Can Peyton Pritchard, all these different things. Philly, God only knows. Miami, they're unquestionably worse. Yeah, Milwaukee is going to be really good, but depending where Holiday lands and how this all plays out, I just think it's still wide open. And the other piece, so if you're just talking Boston, Miami, Tatum kills Milwaukee. I have no idea why. Boston is kind of built to at least stay with Dame and, you know, Derek White is about as good of a person you're going to have to try to keep Dame in check, at least. And Boston's done a really good job of guarding Giannis over the years. They don't have Grant Williams this year, but I just don't think, I think there's as many ways this goes wrong as it goes right, I guess would be my final thought on this because for what they gave up, especially with that 29 unprotected and the two swaps and, you know, they are all in on this team. And you know my theory, when you go all in on a team, you better think you can win. Not positive, but it's an awesome trade. It really is. It makes the league so much more fun. Dame and Giannis together. I'm going to enjoy watching Portland. I still have my eating stock. Watching Phoenix fans slowly realize that Derkiszna isn't the answer is going to be fun and then we'll see where Drew Holliday goes. So really fun trade. We're going to talk about it a little bit more with Die Hard Bucks fan, Ben Thompson in one second. Let's take a break.
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just an illusion true make to believe what we want to believe then you can live in your own fantasy land yes and a matter how hard you tried to be red -pilled you're always gonna get blue pill out of nowhere yep you gotta have a sharp mind yes yes I don't get why she thinks that men thinks she was much who I don't get what she was talking about earlier well and get understand that she doesn't want men to take over but the country of the world was built by men it was built by it every major corporation was built by a man or the vast majority of them I'll give them that I'll give the there have been some very famous male sign to female scientists Madden Curry Mary not to mention I will give them the fact that they a woman did help create the atomic bomb well I did help Einstein create the atomic bomb basically finished the Manhattan Project so they did help build that I'm not saying they can't become the biggest richest man the richest person in the world but I don't think it's gonna happen anytime this century I could be wrong I think it takes determination for women to show that they could do whatever man can it's just that that little amount of determination that there is representation on their behalf they need they need they need there needs to be something that's shown that it is possible regardless of gender religion sexuality at most whatever people group whatever people group there is a chance that you can make it I am gonna say this not all women were Putin present not all women were given their position because they're a talent a vast majority of them and this is sad to say but it kind of means women success but which is true happenstance is the fact a vast majority of these women they were put in positions that they had no business being put into didn't have the skills enough talent they were just put in there because it what's fp they want to say oh we hired a first female VP yeah oh bug off this also experience was her background exactly they don't know it they do what they do it's just ridiculous I know there are people I'm not saying all women are all women were put in this position like this I'm sure there's some ones are very qualified for the jobs and they were put given this corrosion given these opportunities but you've got a quick question of a lot of them were they truly given this jokes of our talents or they just get promoted for worship for virtue like the GM CEO Mary Barra she's unqualified unfit and quite honestly I'm surprised she hasn't been sucked and she's gonna be one of the main reasons why General Motors probably goes under that's just one not to mention I think that will be there I personally believe the future of American companies are all being run by Indian India like so basically yeah Google Indian feel Microsoft Indian there's probably offers swells is there so uh have you heard the news what news up Obama might be gay well I already know that I'm talking about another thing what's over news okay you see no there's this new immigration rule for the UK what's the immigration law so basically in short even if you're a foreigner where you're allowed to enter the UK visa -free you still need something that's called an ETA so you need permission even if you're a foreigner in a country where you can answer enter the UK visa -free you'd certainly permission to come into the country to do whatever and you can stay no longer than six months with the exception of going there for work or even long or long -term study so even if you so they have to get they actually have to go for citizenship yes you need to ask permission to the government to enter the country apply for citizenship by it seems how's the vast majority taken that well what do you think well I shouldn't you should you should know that unless we don't have a fucking field day but let's be real here yes is a little bit concerning but something has to be done about immigration yeah but but not like this so what so what so what let's repeat what they're doing again so basically blocking anybody from coming into the country technical yes what they are promoting is they need to ask the government permission to enter the country even to foreigners in countries that are given free to free access into the UK you still need to ask the government hey can I come in and then if they say yes then you can go in I wonder how that I wonder if I'll stop the boats I don't think I don't think it's about the boats what do you think that that's a separate story what do you think it's about then what do you think it's about control or for it is well has soon that killed his opportunity of staying in in power or is he oh no he's killed his chances ages ago at this point people can people are safely saying then the next election labor majority as I'll never fucking happen that'll never fucking happen well the odds say otherwise I know you don't believe I don't believe everything here in the media I wouldn't trust I wouldn't trust stormer without ever could touch him with two pennies oh no I'm not I'm not painting this in the media the the book he's saying that well the bookies are always the bookies said but Trump would never win and he did win so he's still got his chances if he can fucking fix the economy cuz trust me it's not gonna get better under stormer storms a fucking idiot if you're under stormer Jamie you're gonna be getting rid of your oil and gas you'll be dependent on the thingy and we'll be literally sucking up will be sucking will be the LGBTQ will be plastered around every fucking set will be plastered all around England you've seen the state of Scotland don't let it come to that point I feel sorry for Scots we are gonna hit I hate the LGBTQ I think some a lot of nonsense called mentally ill people doesn't help fun to smoke the representative in my stay in my down the road representative in like one of my districts that is transgender I never happens it is very important to ask people why why are you feeling the way you are why are you doing the things that you're doing I think it's a lot of it I think it's mainly really for attention at least if what we need to do is stop giving these people attention stop giving these people stopping knowledge in their existence because we acknowledge your existence we're just encouraging their behavior it's like saying when you are when a baby when a cries baby cries you don't give it attention cuz it just it you're just rewarding it what we need to do is figure out a way to lower prices on properties what we need is cheap food we need the pricing on food to be as cheap as possible need the prices on property to be cheap so what I'm thinking to stop to solve that I'm thinking what if we were to create a bond what we were to create like a special thing right about basically help give give give everybody give people everyday people an opportunity to basically buy a house so basically cutting the prices in half right and give and give it it's only a certain type of thing that's only allowed for everyday people for the everyday people for the people and not and called big corporations can't use let use it what I'm suggesting we do is give like give massive loopholes for everyday people but bar and control property it's limit them at property but but like the likes of Blackrock the crop price Warhouse Cooper TSB and all these banks in Britain can buy so I've heard rumors that TSB is looking to get into the property market rental property markets which is quite interesting I so else's sir be bought into any new companies lately good strategy the changes in the stock market or the economy for that matter you got anything in pharmaceuticals besides John and Johnson and Johnson there's not much big father I'm investing in it till right now sure if things go away I think is you might be getting a shitload of money off Johnson Johnson soon because of the the sniff yes a district in California basically banned masks in backseat basically banned wearing on masks let's start yeah but it's a district that's always mainly Republican okay okay that makes sense you'd be surprised but there's a lot of Republicans in in California the only thing is so it's not enough to clear the state I do think that California is not big it should be split into two states I'm saying like it should be the north and the east of California one side we should do north of California and east of California and split it down the middle and basically one I personally think that should be it give more delicate seats but remember give more opportunities but not to mention it might be a thing that it might give over can I think all the all the side with Ellie I think everything to do with Ellie and Cupertino should be Cupertino LA California Cupertino all of that should be under one state and the rest of it should be the number let San Francisco I kind of like the north -south California divide yeah well I think in San Francisco part of California oh yeah it's a famous coastal city of California why can't we make that and why can't we make that and it surrounds areas its own state I don't think it's big I don't think it's big enough to be its own state I think it'll be as close as Rhode Island or Delaware it's it's the smallest area let's go but I'm saying the Bay Area maybe California big you know yeah I think I think San Francisco Bay and other neighboring neighborhoods that I think that should be enough to it for it to become its own stuff yeah it could be the next Washington DC what do you mean a shithole well yes but it's also like a district that's predominantly Democrats Washington DC ever since the u .s.
Cinemavino
A highlight from Legend
"And welcome back to cinema vino. We've got a two man game going. It's me and Sean Jordan. Just one little handshake over here. Coming at you. We're like a garage band, two members just coming at you with some hard rock. Tenacious D. Yeah, exactly. Or the black keys, the white stripes. Yeah. Yeah. Both of those. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Summer Chaos is now, this is the home stretch. Mine Meg. If this is the white stripes. Yeah. I think you're going to have to be. All right. Yeah. You're holding down, you're playing. Lying down the ones and the twos. Yeah. You're playing the quarter notes. That's about it. Yup. No fills. Which is how I like my drums anyway. She made the notes in the vamp up to the chorus. A little bit. That was one of the first songs I learned. There was a little bit of flavor. It was like a rice cake with a little bit of salt on it. Not a lot of salt, but a little bit of salt. Yup. So, this is a penultimate episode of Summer of Chaos. We're going to talk about legend. No, it's not penultimate. We've got this and then we've got Battle Royale. Oh, and then Dread. You're right. Dread. So, this is. And Robocop. This is penultimate to the penultimate. Yeah. Penultimate recording. And then I think Robocop's a gap. It's just kind of in between. Right. We just toss it in just because it sounds. Gap here. Yeah. Just a little bit of something to fill in. It's like a caulk that we used in between some tiles. Don't like that. But that's the metaphor I went for and there you go. It's a grout, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah. Drinking that imagery, won't you? So, we're going to talk about legend with Tom Cruise and we're drinking some white board dough. For those of you who are coming in late to this series, basically, we do a random wheel. We spin a wheel. We put a bunch of varietals on the wheel and also like beer and cocktails. Whatever the wheel picks, that's what we do for the Summer of Chaos. These movies were all picked out at random. We put random movies in the hat, drew them out. So, pretty much anything goes for this entire summer. And so, same thing with wine. Anything goes. So, for this one, we got white Bordeaux. This is Chateau La Fresnel. This is a 2022 white Bordeaux. Little bit of background for those who may not know. We were actually talking about this before the podcast that Bordeaux is now known as a red wine region. But up until about 50, 60 years ago, it was a white wine region. It was known for its white grapes. Bordeaux are going to be... White Bordeaux are primarily Sauvignon Blanc with some Simeon and some Muscadel. There's a few other grapes they mix in there, but those are the main three that you're going to see. Then they're mainly Sauvignon Blancs. Is this kind of like how like the Republican Party and the Democratic Party kind of switched identities somewhere in the like 40s, 50s? Around the New Deal? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Basically. Now, it's like five, six to one red wines to white. It used to be the opposite. You'll also see a type of wine made from these same grapes called a Sauternes, which is going to be... It's made completely differently. It's going to be a lot sweeter, a lot more sugary. Those are very fancy, high -end, expensive white wines. So, basically, just from the price tag alone, you'll never confuse a Sauternes with a white Bordeaux. These are going to be more affordable, you know, $15, $20 range. Not super sweet. It's a little more tart, a little peachy? Dry. And the first thing I think of is Sauvignon Blanc. And these will have some characteristics of the same characteristics of other Sauvignon Blancs in the world. They're going to be a little bit grassy, a little bit citrusy, grapefruity. They're going to have some of those same kind of flavors to them. The main thing that's going to distinguish these wines is going to be... I've heard it referred to as minerality. I've heard it referred to as wet concrete. I've heard it referred to as chalk. Tasty. Yeah, limestone. But kind of that dry, refreshing edge that you don't necessarily find in other parts of the world. Kind of like what brings the harshness of mineral water versus the softness of tap. Yeah, exactly. That's a good way to put that. Yeah. It's got like a bite to it. It's got kind of like a... Little edge. Yeah. And you don't find that... Like for example, New Zealand's often been known as grapefruit bombs. Big fruit bombs. And you don't see that as much. This is my favorite region for Sauvignon Blanc. They're balanced. That's why I love French wines in general. They don't go out of the way in any one direction. They're nice and balanced. And so it's great for that. This one has that nice... It's got some grassiness to it. It's got some fruit. But it's dry. And so this would be great. I mean, people say seafood. I'm not a big seafood fan, but kind of a lighter seafood meal is perfect for that. You're not a big seafood fan? Not a big seafood fan. Period? Not really. Shrimp? I mean, I don't mind shrimp. It's not my first thing I go to. Lobster. Yeah, same. Bass. Catfish. I don't mind catfish. I've had some catfish. That's garbage. Catfish is garbage. But I remember when we went to Barcelona, we took a cooking class. It was on our honeymoon. My wife and I, we did a... It was all seafood. We had some paella. We made some paella. We did octopus. We did squid. I mean, we tried the gamut of seafood stuff that they had in the Mediterranean. It was like... That was a good indication. It's like, I don't like this. This is not for me. Yeah, not my taste. It's fair. It's fair. But I will say that we did a wine kind of similar to this, a Spanish white. And yeah, this would be perfect with a wide variety of seafood. Some of the stuff that's bigger and more buttery, you might want to go for a white burgundy, like a chard. But this is a good hot weather, outdoor type of wine. It's nice and refreshing. I like it a lot. Yeah, 25 bucks, not a whole lot of money. But yeah, any good wine store, you should be able to find a nice white Bordeaux section. So look for those while the weather's still warm. But now, legend. Talk about this movie a bit. This was released in the United States April 18th, 1986. So... You say in the United States. Where did it come out before? It was released in Europe the year before. This had a very difficult production. This was a difficult movie to realize. It has a lot going on. So this grossed worldwide $23 million against a $25 million budget. In 86? That's a big budget. Huge. And for several reasons. A big reason for that is that when they started filming, a fire broke out and burned down the 007 studios where they were filming at Leaves in England. So pretty much had to build new sets. That's probably all the magic. Exactly. Yeah, some of the Sprite costumes caught fire. Or the unicorn hair. I can imagine, yeah. It's one wrong look, that unicorn horn. Yeah, it's gone. But they had to build new sets. And Ridley Scott's original cut of the movie ran for between two and a half, three hours. So... Jeez. And the final cut was like, what, hour and a half? Yeah. The version that I watched, I don't know if you saw the original 89 -minute version or if you watched the director's cut. I think I watched the 89 version. Okay, I looked around. I had trouble finding it. That's the version I know the best, so I went back to that one. The director's cut? No, the original. Oh, the original. Yeah. There's a director's cut out there. Is it like two to three hours? No. So basically, when the final cut of this print was released, Ridley Scott watched this cut and freaked out and thought that basically American audience couldn't grasp this much plot. And so he cut the film basically in half, down to 89 minutes. And when it came out, it got mediocre reviews. Obviously, he didn't do well at the box office. He just watered it down too much? Yeah. Gene Siskel put this as one of his worst movies of that year. And the international cut that came out the year before was 93 minutes. And it got a little bit better reviews, but still not great. And then in 2002, somebody found a full work print of the movie in a can somewhere. And so they took that out and restored it, remastered it, and really Scott added about 25 minutes to the cut that the director's cut. So it comes in at like 115 minutes, give or take. And he and Tom Cruise have gone on the record saying that's the version to see. I was going to say, I was reading that Tom Cruise saw the movie in theaters and was like, that's not the movie we filmed. Yeah. That's not it. I mean, you could imagine with that much cut out, it's going to be almost incoherent. It's like a whole other act. Yeah. Yeah. And so basically, the director's cut, yeah, it's a whole other fleshed out thing. And I have seen that once. I saw it when it came out. I think I've got that on DVD somewhere. And the one thing I would say is it does, it adds a few scenes. It makes the motivations a little bit deeper, especially for the character of the darkness and his relationship with the princess, Lily, and the stuff there. It's kind of just, not to cut to the chase, but it just kind of comes out of nowhere. He's just like obsessed with her. He's just like, oh, I must have her. It feels very rushed. It feels like a plot of necessity, not like a plot of, you know, any reason. They're just like, we need to stall him. How do we do it? Love interest. Yeah. And it's like, it's like I'm telling a story to my three -year -old and it's like, I got to kind of get something else in here. You got to kind of yada, yada, yada over motivations. We're coming in for a landing too quick. We got to just shoot. Pull up. Yeah. But so basically, this is a fairly straightforward fantasy story. Tom Cruise plays Jack, who is a protector of the forest. I was a little vague on what exactly he is. Is he a bard? Is he a ranger? I mean, he'd be more druid than anything. Is he a druid? Yeah, I couldn't place what he was supposed to be. It's like, this is where we need Travis. Yeah, he would be. And if Travis had an answer to that, I would be impressed. Because to me, they don't spell that out at all. I guess he would be more of a ranger. Yeah. Because he didn't really have any sort of like shape -shifting ability or had any ability to talk with trees. Really, his only thing was he had like one -on -one connection with the sprites, right? That's about it. Yeah, he had good buddies. A working relationship. And he wore a loincloth. Yes. So there was that. Dude, he was showing that thing off. He was. And that's what I, you know, in that situation, it's like, check out my hairless legs. My supine body. Yeah, check out these smooth legs. But, so Mia Sarah plays Lily. Now, this is her starring debut. Next year, she would go on to play in Ferris Bueller, amongst other things. Her hair when she transforms into a dark version. Awesome. Now, this great production value is great. Everything, costumes, hair. For 25 million, it better be. Yeah. Yeah. And those are real unicorns. Yeah, they better be. Yeah, I mean, now it's like, that'd be 100 million plus to make this thing. Easy. Easy. Easy. So yeah, Lord of Darkness, played by Tim Curry, who is unrecognizable in the mountain of makeup. Honestly, but might be one of my favorite representations of the devil. Yeah. Like, this makeup job is incredible. And in theory, we'll get to this later, that should be great casting to have Tim Curry. Yeah. I almost want to see more of Tim Curry in the face. Like, see more of him, you know. Almost, you know, Faustian devil and Daniel Webster kind of thing, where it's like, you can see like him being rascally or whatever. But yeah, so Lord of Darkness seeks to cover the world in darkness. Plot out the sun. Conveniently, yeah. Typical plot device. For that, he needs the horn of a unicorn, which is the most sacred and majestic of all fantastic creatures. Basically, he wants to take the unicorns out of the world, take the horns out of the world, and the world. The representation of purity. The horn of the unicorn. Yes. The world goes dark. Everything turns into kind of a barren, frigid tundra of darkness. He just has goblins that work for him inexplicably? Yeah, incompetent goblins. Yeah. It's nice. But they rhyme. They talk in riddles. They do. They do rhyme. But you know, he kind of has the James Bond villain of incompetent people working under him, you know. If anything, that's the thing that slows him down as much as, you know, these James Bond villains. Like, you hired a bunch of idiots. He also has, like, the Bond villain thing of, like, doing a lot of monologuing? Yes. Let me vamp for five minutes while you prepare your thing to destroy me. Yeah, let's me blather.
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A highlight from Get Paid Satoshis to Listen
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Reader's Digest version of your background and then how you Decided hey, I want to build this app. Yeah, sure So so my name is Nick and I co -founded fountain two years ago back in 2021 Before that I was in marketing and advertising I worked at Adidas Nike a few big companies and It was in lockdown where me and a good old friend of mine called Oscar who I've known from school We were both just like we want to do something. We want to do something new we think we want to do something in podcasting like let's just meet up and kind of chat through a few different ideas and So we were putting together this idea for a podcast app where you could share clips with your friends and We built a really early prototype and It was around that time where we were just listening in on what was happening within podcasting 2 .0 so podcasting 2 .0 is a Movement, I guess spearheaded by Adam Curry who's the guy who basically invented podcasts back in the sort of mid 2000s Exactly. MTV VJ Yeah so he was a guy who helped put podcasts in the iPod and You know like podcasting hasn't really changed a lot in 15 years It's basically the same today as it was back then, you know, you publish content to an RSS feed you've got a bunch of different content apps that pull that in and you can listen to podcasts and He was setting out on a mission around about 2020 -21 To look at how can we actually decentralize podcasting because here's one of his famous shows No Agenda You know, it's a show about media politics news sort of deconstruction it's always at risk of being deep platformed and taken down by Apple because if Apple don't agree with Something that Adam or his co -host John have said they can just be like, well fuck you Adam. We're gonna take this down. Sorry guys and That's a real problem for creators particularly, you know, particularly in this modern day you see it all the time So he sets out to create a decentralized index of podcasts because what happened is when Apple set up podcasts all the other podcast apps started using their centralized library of podcasts and putting them into their apps Which is great because it allowed like tons of you know, smaller independent podcast apps like overcast to you know Build the software get their app out really quickly because they could just ingest all the content from Apple But the problem is is if Apple takes content down it means it disappears and all the other apps as well I was just curious is that is that how is that what funds the fuels of a chartable? Calm and all that data because it's been notoriously difficult to get actual Analytics and good information from your podcast, right? I think the analytics are getting a little better But it's like that's that's the one way that we look at as we look at chartable to see Oh, where are we at our and overall downloads or what is what is this thing? And so you're saying is they're just basically pulling that data from from Apple and whatever Apple says goes Yeah, exactly And it kind of brings me on nicely to the next point which is the podcasting ecosystem is so fragmented You know, you have hundreds of thousands of different podcast hosting services You have hundreds of thousands of different podcast apps None of these services and platforms are able to talk to each other in the same language and understand each other Which is partly why? Podcasting has been so held back over the years and if you look at something like YouTube, which doesn't use RSS You know, they can do whatever they want.
Game of Crimes
A highlight from 110: Part 1: Ryan Steck is a Spy - The Real Book Spy
"Ola, ola, ola, amigos, amigos, players, playwrights, dududettes, everybody in between, welcome back to episode 110. The 110th ongoing attempt to remove us from podcast land has failed. I can say, I'm not impressed with us, but I'm impressed we're still on the air, I have to say that. We're like cockroaches, Murph, we can survive a nuclear blast, we're still here. Turn the light on, we'll scurry away, but we're coming back. We're coming back, all right. Speaking of coming back, hey guys, glad that you came back to listen to us. Hey, you know something I keep forgetting to say, but just, you know, no matter what podcast platform you're on, hit that subscribe button so that it automatically downloads into your feed so you can hear us, hear the stories that are going to come out of this. But, you know, hey, just hit that subscribe button where you are, it increases our numbers so that Murph can afford a yacht. He needs a yacht. He's got a big lake out back. He's got alligator shoes now. Now he needs a yacht. I don't know, man. I'm reading the book of one of our future guests here. I won't let the cat out of the bag yet. But after reading what happens on some of those boats, I don't think I want to go out in the ocean anymore. Speaking of the upcoming guest, we won't give it away, but we will say that it was another series was made out of this person, this author's books. A popular series too. Very popular series. One of the longest running series on one of the networks. And so this will be fun. But anyway, let's get rid of, but we started off with the housekeeping. Hit the subscribe, but also hit those five stars, Apple, Spotify, wherever you're listening. Just remember Stitcher is no longer. If you're on Stitcher, head to another platform. Also head on over to our website, gameofcrimespodcast .com. That's where you will find the books for our guests we have coming up, for our guests coming up in a while. And we just got a note to one of our buddies, Pete Friselli. 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Get close, join the hilarity, the jocularity and it's insularity because we're a private group. You got to answer a couple of questions. So things get wild and we actually have had a couple of good stories came out. She just posted one. She was pissed. I don't know if you saw that Murph, but a Seminole County detective has been arrested for notifying targets child of solicitation stings. Yeah, and these were people who were soliciting. No children were involved. No children were harmed in the actual making of the arrest, but he was notifying them about through encrypted apps or other stuff, notifying the targets. Hey, this is a setup. Don't show up. You know what? This coming Tuesday, next week, I'm going to the board meeting for the Orlando Police Foundation, which is not only Orlando PD, but it's also Osceola County, Orange County and Seminole County. So the sheriffs will be there and they just invited me to speak at their fall gala this year, the big fundraiser. So I'm going to have to ask him about that. You know what? There's probably some good stories up there that we can bring here on Game of Crimes. Absolutely, absolutely. And that will factor into an announcement we may have for you later. We have a call coming up on Monday as this podcast is being released with our agents at UTA. Something may be in the works. Yeah, baby. We'll see. Speaking of being in the works, you need to work on heading on over to Patreon. Patreon .com slash Game of Crimes. That's where you need to be. We've had some good contentious stuff out there. We've had some funny stuff. 911, what's your emergency? We've got Q &A coming up. We've already fielding questions. So if you're hearing this and you're part of Patreon or you want to be part of Patreon, get your questions into us. We answer everything, even on the installment plan. Oh, and it's, you guys, I mean, just, you got to listen to that. Cause we, we give a little, we give a little hints and clues to, to our patrons that support us about what's upcoming. And, and, you know, they've got a good idea of, of some of our guests that are coming up really soon that I think you guys are going to like. And by the way, one of them will be a world premiere of a world famous name that was just in a huge movie. Huge, huge. It's huge. That has never been on a podcast before. Never been on a podcast. We got him first. We got him first. Took the US Marshals. You talk about dog and determination. Yeah. And a, and a selfie of a finger from John Bernthal to make this happen. Thank you, John. And John knows who we're talking about. Yeah. You know who we are. All right. So, but head on over there, guys. We've got a lot of good stuff coming out. So that is patreon .com slash Game of Crimes. But now, quick disclaimer. This is a show about crime. We talk about bad people doing bad things and bad people doing bad things to good people. We take the story seriously. But what Murph? If you haven't figured it out yet, we never take ourselves serious. Except maybe on Patreon. We get a little, we get on our soap boxes occasionally there. Yeah, we do. And there's some comments about that. So I'll have to tell you about it later. Oh, but hey, but in the meantime, you know what time it is, right? Guess what time it is? Let me ask you, guess what time it is? What, guess what time it is? I bet it's time for small town police blood. Bonanza. All right. Hey, Murph, have you ever been in a sticky situation in an investigation? Oh, yeah, but you weren't in this sticky situation. You mean literally or figuratively? Police in Pasadena, Texas are on the lookout. A 12 -year -old girl told KHOU -TV that she was shopping at a drugstore last week when she felt a wad of something sizzling in her ponytail. It turned out to be glue. So they have a sticky, you know, have a sticky investigation going on. The sticky bandits have attacked. Not only that, she had to cut off some of her hair. Managers say another customer had glued sprayed onto her earlier at the same drugstore and they're investigating a similar incident at a nearby grocery store. Why the hell would you go around spraying glue in people's hair? You're the sticky bandit. That means, remember the wet bandits from Home Alone? These guys are the sticky bandits. Oh, that's just so nasty to even be called that. Well, unlike that lady who thought Gorilla Glue was like a way to keep her hair. Remember that one? She put Gorilla Glue. It will keep your hair. It will, but folks, oh my God. But this was funny, Steve. I got these out of the Bristol Herald Courier out of Bristol, Tennessee. I thought, let me go to kind of a smaller area, you know, get some stuff. So that was one story, Steve. Here's another story. This comes out of Iowa City, Iowa. So, you know, people rob banks for the strangest things, right? A 19 year old North Liberty man used cash stolen at a bank robbery to play for a bond. He had on an outstanding warrant. The only thing that will make it better is if it had the explosive dye. Oh my God, he gave it to the police department. He was charged. Police charged Charles Curry with first degree bank robbery after the robbery of the American Bank and Trust. Curry cased the joint out by talking with the teller and leaving a second man armed with a handgun, then robbed the bank. Police say Curry used bank money to pay a bond for an outstanding theft charge at the Johnson County Jail, then went shopping at a Walmart and Gordon's department store. All I can say is, Curry, you're an idiot. He was taken to jail. There's a, there's an understatement. But hey, I got, I got to end up with this one. You ever had, remember all these things where people go hold my beer? Oh, yeah. Yep. This one comes from Bergetstown, Pennsylvania, population 1 ,425. Salute. The population makes a difference because we're going to get into the structural integrity of the holding cell. That Bonner Timothy was placed in. He was, he was arrested, taken to this holding cell, had his handcuffs removed. They shut the door, went off. That's when he knocked the cell door off its hinges and ran away. Now, what did he do? He stopped at a house, borrowed shoes, and then he went to a bar where he told a customer that, yeah, I just broke out of jail. Can I have a beer? The guy hold the beer, but before he could drink it, he goes, oh, hold my beer. Here's the police. The police came in and arrested him. Dang. How did he knock the door off the hinges? I'm telling you, some of these old places, it's like, it's more like having a fence, you know, you know, fences keep, you know, make good neighbors, you know, blocks keep honest people on us. But, you know, it's just, it was more the, you know, just like a Captain Jack Sparrow in Paris in the Caribbean. It's all about leverage. That's the day you almost caught Captain Jack Sparrow. Yeah, but he used leverage to pry that door off its hinges. Oh, my God. Okay. That's, there's a good, hey, hold my beer. I'm going to jail. Again. Again. Well, hey, speaking of fun stuff, I don't, I'm trying to figure out a good segue into this. This one, I get the intro because this guy I know, this guy actually has something in common with one of our other guests. Yes. Sherry Foster. And Sherry, if you're listening, tick tock, tick tock, I will get my book into him before you do, and I will be declared the winner. So this young man, and I say young man, he's got six kids. Oh, my God. He's been busy with everything. I don't know when he's had time to have six kids as busy as he is writing and editing books. But Ryan's - I wonder if there's a milk man in his neighborhood. Sorry, Ryan. Sorry, DNA tests are in your future, pal. So no, no, no, his wife's great. We don't want to make any insinuate, any insinuate, almost insinuations like that. Anyway, but let's get back to the case in chief. So, but, you know, many of you may not know who Ryan Steck is. You may have heard of big names like Jack Carr, Brad Thor, people writing thrillers. Well, not only is he the real book spy, if you go to therealbookspy .com, that is him. Ryan Steck, besides being my development editor and Sherry's development editor, guess who, you know, who asked him for recommendations and who's asked him to review their books? Jake Tapper, Bret Baier. He has got a list of celebrities and people, as long as my arm, of people that he's worked with, people that he's helped, people that are coming to him to say, hey, take a look at my book. And you got, so you're about to say something there, Murph. Hey, I've got, so I've got him pulled up on my laptop here as you're talking and he is, he's on his blog or whatever it is, YouTube. I'm not sure what you call it here. Twitch, yeah. Guess who he's talking to? Brad Thor, the author. Brad Thor, the author. How about that? He gets him on Twitch. Actually, I was supposed to be on that Twitch session, but yeah, Ryan is like, he's one of those unique people that has figured out how this thing works. Now you're going to ask, why do we have this author on? Well, for two reasons. Number one, his new book, Lethal Range is coming out. His initial book, his debut book was called Fields of Fire, a Matthew Redd thriller. So Matthew Redd is a Marine Raider. Now you hear a lot about Navy Seals, Delta Rangers, but nobody's ever had a book with a Marine Raider in it, you know? What do you call him, Marsoc? Marsoc, yeah, Marine Special Operations Command, I believe, Marsoc, yeah. And so he's got, so he had a, not only did he have a debut book, he's been helping people. Finally, all these guys are saying, write your own damn book, dude. So he did. So he got a contract for two books and a novella, which we'll talk about the novella. But his new book is, as we drop this episode, as you're listening to this today, his new book, Lethal Range comes out. And if I was just reading, just the quick thing from Lethal Range, let me just read you the intro. This is what Lethal Range is. On an island off the coast of Spain, Matthew Redd and his FBI fly team surveil a luxury villa in hopes of catching a high value fugitive. But when Redd leads an unauthorized raid on the villa, he discovers they've been set up and he is sent home to face the consequences of defying orders. Now, meanwhile, Redd's family, Emily, is on a remote stretch of Montana road driving their sick baby to the doctor when she finds her SUV surrounded by a biker gang. Intent on harassing her as they pound her fenders and infant sun screams, Emily fights to keep the FQB on the road. And then suddenly the bikers back off, leaving her safe but shaken. But when Redd returns home, Murph, he's suspended from his team and certain that he's to blame for Emily's harassment after his run -in with the local biker gang. So what does he do? He does what any guy does. He goes to war.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
A highlight from Part 1: USAs World Cup Collapse, Basebrawls, Jets Optimism, Life in The G-League and The OC 20 Years Later | with Gabe York and Zoe Simmons
"Coming up, an unexpected two -part podcast cameo from me. It's next. We're also brought to you by the Ringer Podcast Network, where we turned over Sean Fennesey and Amanda Dobbins' big picture feed to Brian Raftery. It's a narrative podcast called, Do We Get to Win This Time? How Hollywood Made the Vietnam War. You can find it on the big picture starting on Tuesday. And it is an idea I'm really excited about because it came from a class that I did as a senior in college in 1992. Me and my friend Horgs talked a movies professor into doing a special Vietnam War movies class where we watched basically every Vietnam War movie that had been made up to 1992 and then tried to write a big picture term paper about it. And the thing that was really fascinating about that class and something that stuck with me was just that whole concept of Hollywood reinventing the entire Vietnam experience under the premise of, Did We Get to Win This Time? So we got Brian involved and he turned the idea into an awesome, awesome podcast. I even went and dug up the term paper that I wrote 31 years ago. I thought it was gonna be horrendous. It wasn't bad. I was kind of proud of myself, retroactively 31 years later. Anyway, Do We Get to Win This Time? How Hollywood Made the Vietnam War. It is gonna be in the big picture podcast starting on Tuesday. So that's one piece of business. Second, new rewatchables on Monday night. It is the 300th movie that we've done. It's a special one. We're doing National Lampoon's Vacation. It was time. Meet Chris Ryan, Van Lathan. Yeah, and Van was pushing for it because we wanted to do Christmas Vacation during the holidays and you can't do Christmas Vacation. If we do National Lampoon's Vacation, super fun. Can't wait for you to listen to it. And we'll be running the video at some point on the YouTube channel, youtube .com slash Bill Simmons, where we put up a whole bunch of rewatchables podcasts in case you missed it. Boogie Nights is up there now. Goodfellas, Independence Day, just a slew of them. So if you're bored and you wanna throw on some rewatchables and watch us make fun of each other, there you go. Last but not least, I don't wanna say this is the most important, but it's certainly the thing I spent the most time on. Our documentary that we did about the G League with Religion of Sports and Ringer Films, we combined, and it is premiering on Tuesday, August 8th. It is called Destination NBA, A G League Odyssey. It's really good. We immersed ourselves into the G League season. We followed Scoot Henderson, Gabe York, Ryan Terrell, Mason Jones, and Denzel Valentine. And the big question was, what is this world like? What's it like to be in the G League? And I am really proud of where we landed with it. And we even have, much later in this podcast, Gabe York is gonna come on. He's one of the five that we followed, and he's gonna tell us what it's like as you're holding on to your dream in your late 20s. We try not to spoil the doc too much with Gabe, but I really liked him. He's probably the guy that jumps out of the doc in the most sympathetic way. So look forward for you to watch it. It is prime video, Tuesday, August 8th, Destination NBA. A G League Odyssey. You love basketball, just watch it, it's good. So there you go. This is gonna be part one of a two -part podcast. Gabe is coming up later. My daughter Zoe Simmons is coming up later because we did a whole bunch of OC stuff on the Prestige TV podcast. I was even on two of the episodes. But I ended up watching season one of the OC. And my daughter was watching with us and loved the show. And she was born a year and a half after it premiered. So me and her broke down season one from the perspective of what is it like when somebody 18 watches the OC, a show that is now two decades old. The anniversary was actually August 6th. And what she liked, what she didn't like, what people aren't doing anymore for her kind of audience. And we just dove into it. So that is much later. First, coming out of the gate, I'm gonna open a six -pack because we have a lot to discuss over the past three weeks, all the stuff I missed. So that's gonna be part one. And then part two, which is gonna go up later on Sunday night, me and Rossello doing this evergreen idea that we've always wanted to do. And this seemed like the perfect time because nothing's happening in basketball. So that's gonna be part two later tonight. Part one coming up. First, our friends from ProJax. What's up? All right, I'm taping this. It is Sunday afternoon Pacific time. And I'm gonna open a six -pack. There's a bunch of stories in sports and culture that happened over the last three weeks. I was just writing stuff down, things that would have been fun for podcast segments. I was just like, man, I wish I could have given my thoughts on that. Just gonna rip through them. So I have six and then maybe a couple bonus ones at the end. The first one, the biggest one, was the US women's soccer team, which lost today in penalty kicks to Sweden, scored zero goals in the last two games, scored one goal in the last three games, and that was off a corner kick. You could feel from the beginning that something was off with this team. It was all the ways. You knew in a checklist of what are the red flags? There were just red flags galore. And the only person who was really calling it out in time over and over again was Carli Lloyd, who was doing the Fox studio show. And she was the one person in the horror movie who knows the house is haunted. And everyone's like, shut up. You're not being patriotic. You just wish you were still on the team. She was right. She was right from the get -go. This team, you could see it before the Vietnam game when it was like, look at the new Nike suits. Look at these new suits. And they're all like styling as they head into the locker room. And they're running commercials. And every player has a commercial. There's players who've never done anything of that commercials. And the vibe was just off. They only beat Vietnam three -nothing in a bracket where goal differential was gonna be super -duper important. And that was a huge red flag. And we did the usual thing that we've been doing since 2019, 2015 of, oh, well, they almost scored a bunch of times. Oh, well, if that had gone in or some bad luck. There was just an arrogance to this team. Like they were carrying themselves like the defending champs, the same way like the Denver Nuggets would go into next NBA season. Like we're the champs. I was like, yeah, you are the champs because the season just happened. The World Cup happened four years ago. Everyone's four years older or wasn't on the team. And you could see they wanted to build the team instead of around the identity of, here are these new up and coming awesome stars that are gonna be in your life. They were really latching on to Alex Morgan and Megan Rapinoe. Alex Morgan's 34, Megan Rapinoe's 37. I think one of the differences between the discourse with women's sports and men's sports is that in men's sports, we grasp for angles. And if somebody is disappointing in some way, we really go nuts. Like think of how James Harden's been treated over the last 12 years. So he's one of the 35 best players ever and has taken just an incredible amount of shit. Oh my God, the playoffs, look at his game log. Oh, he choked again. Alex Morgan, who scored twice in her first two games in the World Cup in 2011, she scored once in 2015 in seven games. She scored six times in 2019, five against Thailand in a game that was 13 to nothing, one in the other six, and then scored nothing in the four games this time around. If you take away that Thailand game, she has scored two goals in the last 17 World Cup games. This is the striker. This is the one who's supposed to be the most dangerous player in the field, who's supposed to produce goals. And she hasn't produced goals since the mid 2010s on the national level. And yet it's Alex Morgan. She was supposed to be the next one. We got to keep propping her up and pretending she's a superstar. She's not a superstar. She's really honestly never been a superstar. She certainly hasn't been as impactful as somebody like Abby Wambach was. So you have the team built around her. She's got to play. They play her the entire game, game two, the entire game, game three. She plays like 95 minutes in this game today, and they don't score goals. And the announcers just won't talk about it. It's like being on an AYSO team that your kid's on, and the coach is playing somebody at striker, and everyone's like, why don't they play Sally at striker instead of the coach's daughter? It's like, oh, you know, the coach's daughter. She's got to play there. So you have that, and then you have Rapinoe, who's 37 years old, who's just, unfortunately, great career, legendary, true legend, huge big time player. And when you hit your late 30s in soccer, it's a wrap. She looked like Yudana Rapinoe, not big Rapinoe, and comes out for the last 25 minutes of this game and can't do anything, and then misses the penalty kick. That's the thing. If you're beholden to past performance, you can't expect to succeed in the moment. And I did feel like, what were this team's strengths? Speed. They had Sophia Smith, who really was bad the last three games on the left wing. Like, she just, she couldn't even connect passes. Trinity Rodman, who's a beast. Lynn Williams, who's super fast and athletic and had some really nice moments the last two games. And then Alyssa Thompson, who's the prodigy, who's the, you know, potential tiger or LeBron of this team. 18 years old, best high school player I've ever had. They won't even throw her out there. But this was not a team that could connect passes. They weren't, like, especially creative. The coaching was just bizarre, and we'll never see that guy again. But it was like, the one thing they did have was speed, especially the forwards, and they just threw that away. And Alex, you know, couldn't do anything. So now they're out. It's the most disappointing finish of the last 25 years for the women's team. And it reminds me in a lot of ways that 2004 Olympic basketball team that we had, the USA team. And I tweeted this, I think after the second game, because that was a team that was between eras, like this one was, where all the best players on that 2014, the ones in their primes, weren't that good, except for Duncan. And Duncan was completely banged up. He'd played so many NBA games the last couple of years. I think his knee was hurt. But, you know, it was Iverson and Marbury. The talent, it just was a between eras. And you had guys on the bench, like LeBron and Carmelo and Wade, who were four years away. Kobe wasn't on the team. And it just felt generationally, like we caught that team in the wrong time. The style was wrong. And we learned all these lessons and we moved on. 2008, we win. There's a documentary about it. But this team felt like it was between eras. The Alex Morgan, Rapinoe era, which was basically done. And then you have this era coming up with Rodman and Sophia Smith and Alyssa. And, you know, it's just four years from now, we'll probably be fine. But they need to re -imagine this. And I think if you're gonna learn any lesson from this, it doesn't matter what happened four years ago. It's the World Cup. It matters what's happening now. So that's one thing. Second thing. So Jaylen Brown gets this huge contract, $304 million. Some people seem surprised that it was that much money. Chris Ryan even took a shot at it when we did our library watchables. Hurt my feelings a tiny bit. Mainly because I didn't really have a comeback. Rosella did something on his podcast about how this actually makes sense. This amount of money, when you think of how the salary cap has climbed just since 2015, and it's gonna keep climbing. And there's this world you can go into where you think about just how much everything is gonna cost in the NBA four or five years from now, that Jaylen Brown at $70 million isn't actually gonna be that intimidating. The same way we feel about Tobias Harris for $40 million now, or Klay Thompson, $40 million now. Yeah, you don't really wanna pay $40 million for Klay Thompson, but you can survive it. And I think that's gonna be where the Celtics land with Jaylen. Here's why they had to do it. They're the favorites on FanDuel right now. They're plus 470. The thing that made them the most special and has made them the most special for the last five, six years is the Jaylen Brown -Jason Tatum combo. They've been incredibly successful. The team itself has made five conference finals in the last seven years. They came super close to making the finals last year. I have now gone into the what if zone with that Celtics team where what if Tatum doesn't hurt his ankle on the first play? Do we beat Miami? They were close is the point. And when you're that close, you can't fuck around. This is not Bradley Beal resigning with Washington for 50 million a year when everybody knows you can't get past the eight seed with Bradley Beal. This is different. You're trying to win a title. You're trying to keep all your optionality open. The thing that's a little scary about it, nobody seems to totally know if he wants to be in Boston. This is something we've discussed on this pod. It's been floating out there. The fact that he wasn't happy about landing in the Kevin Durant trade rumors a couple years ago. And just in general, where the league is now, where as Woj called it, the transfer portal, where people get their contract first and then they decide what they want to do. And I think for the Celtics, they know they bought themselves a year with Jalen and they are still one of the favorites to win the title. And a lot of it's going to depend on health and Porzingis. You could also, I don't want to make the case, but you might be able to make the case that Brown had a fucked up hand last year. Cause he did. Cause he sliced his hand open. It was bleeding even during the Philly series. And maybe that was why his ball handling went sideways. Listen, you got to do the contract. It just breaks your brain. I remember a million years ago, Sports Illustrated and Inside Sports say every year they would have like a salary issue. And they would talk about these guys are making $1 million a year. And it seemed like so much money. And now where we're heading with the money, plus the NBA is the meteorites deal. The moment any of these guys becomes unhappy, what do you do? Because you're paying Jalen, let's say you're paying him 55 million a year. Plus he is the trade kicker, which the team has to pay. Right? So if he decides after a year, you know what? I'm tired of being the scapegoat. Everybody loves Jason. I'm like the middle brother of this team. I want my own team. I want to go to Houston or Atlanta. You got to trade me. What are the Celtics going to do? On top of who would want out, you don't have a lot of options and you turn into what the situation Portland's in with Deem. And then on top of it, it's so much money. It's impossible to get any sort of a fair trade for the guy. So they had to do it. And optionality the that comes out of it is frightening. I remember in the early 2000s, when the first time the contracts kind of went nuts and you would see that people get signing like six -year, $100 million deals, seven -year, $110 million deals. And the Celtics really, really stupidly traded for Vin Baker. One of the worst trades of the last 30 years for Boston Sports. A trade so bad, you knew it instantaneously. And I wrote a piece that you can probably find somewhere in the ESPN archives about it, where I compared it to the end of Thelma Louise when Harvey Keitel is running toward the cliff trying to stop the car from going off the cliff. That's how I thought about the Vin Baker trade when it happened. Then it happens and you just had this salary albatross. It's a salary cap league. And you're like, wow, we just threw away 20 % of our salary cap on this trade. There's going to be a couple of those that are just franchise killers. And whether that leads to them bringing back the amnesty clause, who knows? I wish, I've made this, I've had this idea before. I wish that they had a rule in there that if you drafted a guy, every year that he stays in the team, you get rewarded in some way from a salary cap luxury tax type thing, right? So Jaylen was 2016 draft, this would be his eighth year. Maybe like after the seventh year, because that's usually like the third contract. The guy stays in the team, maybe each year after that, he doesn't count for 2 % of the luxury tax, up to like 30%, something like that. The point is the Warriors should be rewarded for keeping Draymond and Klay and Curry from a tax standpoint, that they were that smart to draft those guys, keep those guys together. They should be incentivized, the players, to want to stay with them because there's some luxury tax stuff that the team gets. And the team should want to be incentivized to take care of those guys because it's also beneficial to them. I just wish they figured out some version of that rule. Anyway, Jaylen was always signing for $304 million. Talk to me in a year, I'll keep my fingers crossed. Next thing, I missed the running back pity party. This was crazy. The running backs all got together and they were really upset about how much money they made. And I don't know what to tell you. There's too many running backs and not enough running back spots. And I don't know if you're trying to build a responsible salary cap team in a collectively bargained era, why would you spend $30 million over two years on a running back unless the running back was awesome? Nobody even wants to spend more than $11 million on running back. So I knew that this was crazy when Damien Harris, who was on the Patriots, who I thought was really good. He's maybe not an elite running back, but a good running back, right? Somebody that if he had been on the Chiefs, he easily could have started for the Chiefs. And he signed with the Bills for like one year, 2 million. And when that happened, combined with Pacheco on the Chiefs' seventh round pick, they won the Super Bowl with him. It's just, this position's devalued. I work on this player, I've been actually working on it the last couple of weeks where I try to rank the players for blue chippers, red chippers, pink chippers, honorable mention, and have this whole point system. And so quarterbacks, Mahomes, who's the alpha of that position, he's worth 10 points. And you could even see this in the point spread. If Mahomes gets hurt, the Chiefs are 10 points, nine points, whatever, less than what they would be as a favorite. They'd switch to an underdog. And you go on down the line. Jalen Hurts, I had him as an eight. I had Joe Burrow as a nine. And you go on, you keep going down, and it's like, Geno Smith's probably a two. But then you look at some of the other positions and you have to value them the same way the salary cap values them and teams value them. Guards, they aren't worth that much. Running backs, sorry, they're not worth that much. My top running back was three points because ultimately running backs don't really matter that much. In the last like five, six years, I would say Derrick Henry was the only running back that you could definitively say, this guy almost won the Super Bowl. Like he was that good. Other than that, you know, it's plug and play, quarterbacks, it's receivers. It's much harder to find the number one receiver. Every team needs one. It's much more tangible if you don't have the number one receiver. And it's much easier to just kind of scrap together the running back position. And yet people went nuts about this. We ironically had this in the NBA with centers. You know, Vucevic, who's a really good offensive player, he signed for 60 million for three years, 20 million a year. And Jaylen Brown's going to make $52 million a year. Is Jaylen Brown two and a half times better than Vucevic? No, it's just, he plays a way more important position. You can only play one center at a time. You can patch together the center position. You could have like Isaiah Hartenstein for $8 million. You could, you know, get Robert Williams for 16. You don't need to spend what Phoenix did on Eaton where they're paying $8 and $30 million a year at center. And you don't really need to do that. You kind of feel obligated if you don't want to lose the asset. But I think the NBA is going to go this way eventually where unless it is Jokic or Embiid, the center or Bam Adebayo, it's a bonus. You could argue that was already an overpay. They gave him a huge extension. The Lakers just gave Anthony Davis $60 million a year as an extension. I would argue that's a little frightening. I feel like you could patch together the center position. What really matters in basketball is having the creator. And this was the argument five years ago with Luka versus Eaton for the number one pick. And I made this argument. It was like, go look at who wins the NBA title every year. It's always the people who have the creator. There's somebody who's on the perimeter of the ball in their hands. Even Jokic, who wins the title this year, he was a creator. He's not a typical center, right? He's basically their point guard on offense who could post up. So this happened in the NBA. Nobody went nuts. And this is happening in football. And is this where football is. If you want to make the most amount of money playing in the NFL, I don't know why you would be a running back. I would be a cornerback. I would be a wide receiver. I'd be an edge rusher. But if you're a running back, you know your shelf life's probably like five, six years. You know the money is not totally gonna be there. Now they're in this, like you have people like JK Dobbins, like, I might hold out. It's like, really? You didn't barely even play in the field. Barkley said he was gonna hold out. And then, you know, probably looked at it. And the money for Barkley is like 10, 11 million. That's unfortunately the market. So you can't fix this. They collectively bargained it. And until we get to the next CBA, I don't know how you fix it. I thought it was really weird. It felt like people had nothing to talk about. And it was like, ah, let's feel bad for running backs. All right, let's take a break. And then I'm gonna finish the rest of the six pack. All right, picking up on the six pack. We're gonna talk a little more football. I talked about the running back pity party. This is a different kind of party. The Jets optimism, which has just been stunning to me over the course of July. I have Jets fans in my life. These are people that usually have no hope and are very reminiscent of the pre -2004 Red Sox fans, just assuming the worst at all times. Why does God hate us? All that stuff. And now they have this crazy optimism based on the fact that they brought in Aaron Rodgers, who I did not think was very good last year, just throwing that out there. I wouldn't say he was bad, but for Rodgers, he was bad. I mean, we thought Rodgers was, he was the reigning MVP and we thought he was still one of the five or six most impactful players in the league. And I don't wanna read stats to you for the next six minutes, but deep balls, he was bad. Turnovers, he was bad. Leadership, he was bad. And the case for Rodgers coming back would be, well, he's gonna be rejuvenated. The Jets, New York City. This is his team. He got away from Green Bay. He's got Hackett back. I get it, but he's also at an age where we've really only seen Tom Brady succeed at a high, high level at the age that Rodgers is at. I was trying to figure it out. I have my QB ratings and I had, you know, the top tier is Mahomes and Burrow and Allen and Herbert and Hertz. Those have to be the top five. Then it drops off and it's Lamar Jackson and Lawrence. And then Rodgers, probably a hair underneath him with a chance to play himself up with those guys. But from what we saw last year, I'm not ready to put him there. So he's the 10th best quarterback in the league, probably. 10th or ninth best quarterback in the league, probably. Well, they have no offensive line. And I don't understand why people keep glossing over this where it's like, hey, Rodgers and Garrett Wilson, he's one of the best receivers in the league and Breece Hall's going to come back and the defense is really good. And it's like, yeah, the offensive line is terrible. Beckton and Dwayne Brown, sure tackles again. And then you have Robert Salah as the coach, who I cannot say I thought that Jets were crisply coached last year. Whatever he was doing with Zach Wilson was insane. No idea if that guy's even a decent coach. So I'm already worried about your offensive line, the age of your quarterback, and the competency of your coach. And that's before we get into the hard knocks curse, because for some reason they're doing hard knocks, the incredible Super Bowl hype already. And then we have the schedule, which is the AFC East has just got screwed by the schedules this year. The Jets, just for quarterbacks in 17 games, they got to play Josh Allen twice, they got to play Mahomes, Herbert, Hertz, Dak Prescott, and Deshaun Watson. And then they also have to play Miami twice. We'll see what we get out of two this year. And then a really good Pats defense. And then Denver, who knows, they might be rejuvenated. So Danny Dimes, they have to play him. It is a brutal schedule, so you have that. And then on top of everything else, you're the Jets. I was there with the Red Sox before 2004, and this is probably just as bad, where you just think the worst possible things can happen is all the time. You're not allowed to have optimism when you're Jets fans. You can be cautiously optimistic. There was an entire Curb Your Enthusiasm episode once, season 10, episode seven, about being a Jets fan. And it was called, I think, the ugly section. Nick Kroll was the maitre d'. And part of the episode was about, he would put these people in different sections of the restaurant, depending on how attractive they were. But there was this other plot, Larry's buddy who loved the Jets, kills himself. And Larry becomes convinced it was because of the Jets, that the Jets killed his friend. This was only a couple of years ago. So now they get Aaron Rodgers, and everything's good. And they're gonna win the Super Bowl. I don't see it, guys. I don't wanna step on my football stuff too much, but I'd be shocked. And Lombardi points out the defense that everybody's ready to compare to the 85 Bears. Lombardi said they had two turnovers over the last eight games last season. So that means something too. I am dubious, to say the least. If you're gonna tell me a tortured franchise actually turns it around this year, I want a tortured franchise that doesn't have expectations. Because the Lions are another one. Everybody's ready to put them in the Super Bowl or close. And the only case for them is just pretty explosive offense. They couldn't stop anybody last year. And the NFC is terrible. But that's another one where is that a fan base that should be super excited and have a ton of hype? The one that's kind of lurking that fits in this group is the Browns. Because the Browns are actually super talented. They're in a winnable division. Burroughs already hurt. And I think they're four to one to win the AFC North on FanDuel, something like that. Their over -under is, I think it climbed up.
AP News Radio
LeBron James, Lakers eliminate champion Warriors with 122-101 victory in Game 6
"The Lakers have landed in the Western Conference Finals by trouncing the defending champion warriors one 22 one 21 in game 6. It was a vintage performance by LeBron James who delivered 30 points, 9 rebounds and 9 assists for the 7th seeded Lakers. I just want to try to come in and make some plays and be efficient and defend out of high level help 80 rebound. Help our team make winning plays and I was able to make a few of them. Anthony Davis had 17 points and 20 rebounds for LA, Austin Reeves chipped in 23 points, including a 54 footer at the halftime buzzer. Steph Curry led all scores with 32 points, but missed ten of his 14 three point attempts for Golden State. I'm Dave ferry.
AP News Radio
Stephen Curry, Warriors stave off elimination, force Game 6 by beating Lakers 121-106
"The warriors kept their season alive as they beat the Lakers one 21 one O 6 6 player scored in double digits, including all 5 starters. Stephen Curry scored a game high 27 points from the jump the way we did handle their run the way we did and then close out fourth quarter strong was exactly how we expect to play in just a matter can we take it on the road and win a must win game on Friday? LA still leads the series three games to two. In the loss of LeBron James with 25 points and Anthony Davis had 23 game 6 is in Los Angeles on Friday night. Ryan leong, San Francisco
AP News Radio
Lakers rally past Warriors 104-101, take 3-1 series lead
"Lonnie walker the fourth came off the bench to score 15 points all in the fourth quarter as the Lakers rallied to beat the warriors at one O four to one O one. The greatest villain you can ever have ever imagined. You know, as a kid, this is something I've been dreaming of doing, not just being a part of the playoffs, but impacting it. LeBron James finished with 27 points, as LA takes a three to one series lead. Stephen Curry had a 31 point triple double for Golden State, who now face a winner go home game 5 on Wednesday. Mark Myers, Los Angeles
AP News Radio
LeBron's Lakers rout Warriors 127-97, take 2-1 series lead
"The Lakers steamrolled the warriors in game three one 27 to 97 D'angelo Russell had a big night scoring the Lakers first 11 points. He finished with 21. For me, it was just scoring tonight. Next night it might be passing. So just taking advantage of what they're allowing us to have. Anthony Davis had 25 and LeBron James who didn't score until midway through the second quarter ended with 21, Stephen Curry led Golden State with 23, Lakers now lead two games to one with game four Monday back on their home floor. Mark Myers, Los Angeles
AP News Radio
Thompson scores 30, Warriors adjust to beat Lakers 127-100
"Game two was a lopsided win for the warriors as they beat the Lakers one 27 to 100 to even the series clay Thompson played a starring role with 30 points. He's always fun when you shoot the ball well, but it's even better when you couple that with a win. Golden State hit 21 three pointers with Thompson making 8, Stephen Curry finished with 20 points in a dozen assists, LeBron James led the Lakers with a team high 23 points while Anthony Davis was held to only 11. I am Mark Myers
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AP Sports SummaryBrief at 2:14 a.m. EDT
"AP sports and Mike Reeves three game 7s were on the pro sports docket Sunday, including in the NBA where the defending champion Golden State Warriors got 50 points from Steph Curry to defeat Sacramento one 20 to 100. It was the first time in NBA history a player scored 50 points in a game 7 in game one of their Eastern Conference semifinal series, the heat won in New York against the Knicks one O 8 one O one led by Jimmy Butler who scored 25 points but suffered a right ankle injury late in the game. The other game 7s were in the NHL where the Florida Panthers defeated the bruins four to three in overtime Boston set league records for regular season wins and points this season Carter verhage scored the game winner Seattle beat Colorado two to one eliminating the defending Stanley Cup champions Oliver bureau strand scored both kraken goals. Tony finau won the PGA's Mexico open and Taylor gooch won the Liv golf invitational in Singapore in a playoff against Sergio Garcia, rain postponed the NASCAR Cup Series race at Dover motor speedway. I'm Mike Reeves, AP sports.
AP News Radio
Curry scores playoff career-high 50 as Warriors down Kings
"In the decisive game 7, the warriors made it look easy as they blow out the king's one 20 to 100 to advance to the second round in the Western Conference playoffs. Stephen Curry scored a playoff career high 50 points making 7 threes with 8 rebounds and 6 assists. For a reason because we started to see where the holes were and I could be ultra aggressive and get looks and it worked. Andrew Wiggins added 17 points and Klay Thompson with 16. It was the third game 7 in kings franchise history. In the loss, de Monte sabonis had 22 points and deer and fox with 16. Ryan leong, Sacramento
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Monk, Fox lead Kings past Warriors 118-99 to force Game 7
"In a must win situation, the kings beat the warriors one 1899. The victory evens up the series at three games a piece forcing a decisive game 7 at Sacramento on Sunday afternoon. Deer and fox playing with a broken finger tip on his left shooting hand had 26 points and 11 assists. We knew our backs against the wall, especially coming in here, which is one of the toughest places to play in the league. We knew that we had to do the little things. Malik monk led to king's bench with 28 points. Stephen Curry led the warriors with 29 points and 22 by Klay Thompson, but Golden State allowed 23 points off 19 turnovers and shot only 38% from the floor. Ryan leong, San Francisco
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Curry leads Warriors past Kings 123-116 for 3-2 series lead
"Stephen Curry scored 31 points in leaving the warriors to a one 23 one 16 win over the kings and a three two series lead, Golden State has struggled in road games all season, so curry says this win was special. Went on the roads a big deal. It's hard to do. So it was a big, big night for us. Clay Thompson added 25 points kavan Looney pulled down 22 rebounds. The air in Fox playing with a broken finger on his shooting hand led the kings with 24 points. I am Mark Myers
AP News Radio
Curry, Warriors hold off Kings 126-125 to even series 2-all
"Sacramento's Harrison Barnes missed the game winning three point shot attempt at the buzzer as the warriors hang on to beat the king's one 26 one 25. Stephen Curry led the warriors with 32 points. We have to maintain our composure on that front, turn over and offensive rebounds, gain 5. Like you said, it's a great opportunity. We know we have to win one in that building to get out of this series. Might as well be going for. Quite Thompson added 26 for Golden State to tie the series at two games apiece in the loss, dieron Fox with 38 points and Keegan Murray with 23. Game 5 is in Sacramento on Wednesday night. Ryan leong. San Francisco
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Kings beat Warriors 114-106 to take 2-0 series lead
"The kings have the defending NBA champions on their heels by beating the warriors in game two, one 14 to one O 6 to go up two games to none, but Sacramento coach Mike Brown says it's no time to relax. Like a wounded animal who had that wound is just getting bigger and bigger. And when that happens, we know when they know they're going to have to crank it up a notch and fight even harder. The air and Fox and demonte sabonis each scored 24 points, Stephen Curry led the warriors with 28, but shot just three of 13 from three. I am Mark Myers
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Warriors set NBA record with 55-point 1st quarter in rout
"Golden State needed a win Sunday to avoid the play in tournament and the warriors came through in a big way with a one 57 one O one thrashing of Portland. The victory secured the 6th seed in the matchup with number three Sacramento, which Steph Curry says will be no picnic. Let's go take everything to beat them four times, especially start on the road, but we love the opportunity in front of us. The defending champs removed any possibility of suspense when they rang up 55 first quarter points. That's the most any team has scored in any first quarter in NBA history. I'm Bruce Morton
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"curry" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"I think that's what the KD thing did and people like to shit on it now, but it's the best basketball team we're probably going to see in the modern shooting error. I mean, you could separate it by errors and if you're going to go more post-op physical error, you probably go 86 cells or 96 bowls, whatever. I always thought the O one Lakers were pretty magical. The last half of that season, they were just like when Shaq and Kobe were aligned like that. It was pretty special. But do you think let me ask you though, but do you think like the next, I don't know if we're going to have another team that wins 70 plus games and whatever has to happen? Because there's too much, there's too much talent now. Okay, but do you think there'll be somebody that goes actually I don't want to share. Like I don't want to share the spotlight because I think Steph up until this series, it was, yeah, he's got his one, but Katie, I mean, we know how the arguments work for all of us. Yeah. I think part of the problem with Steph is he probably didn't care enough about this. You know? Kevin Durant wants to play with us? Awesome. You know, even like he was so amused those first two years with all the Durant stuff. I remember when we did one of the podcasts and ranted the blog boy rant that became a thing on the Internet and we made the t-shirts like for fun and curry reached out and was like, can I have a blog boy T-shirt and he wore it? Like he just like really enjoyed how kind of out there the way it was. He's just who he is. You mentioned the LeBron thing. LeBron's better than curry. There's an awesome argument though to spend next current question. Was curry the best player of the last ten years? Because I think people would say LeBron was. But we have a full decade now of curry. 2013 through 2022. LeBron, those ten years, three and four in the finals. Curry was four and two in the finals. LeBron made 7 first teams one second team in two third teams, one of which he should not have been. Curry made four first teams three second teams,.
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"curry" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"That's disdain. That's just yeah, that is just smoked. Grant Williams, we don't even need to get into it. But it's okay. I was going to say something about step. Oh, I was going to say that was a shifting narrative coming into these finals that I saw in a few places that was like, it's crazy that there's no top 5 player in these finals, like guaranteed top 5 player in these fights. A prevailing narrative about the death of the super team and super duper stars leading their teams to the championship and I was like Steph Curry constant state media's best efforts to turn Tatum into a top 5 player. I can't believe that. We're about to we're about to talk about Tatum, but please lay off. I mean, okay. Okay, I will. But Steph, yeah, I think he has to be in the top 5. In our top 100. Absolutely commendable. My brother. If he's not, given that he was last year, right? He's not in our top 5 this year. We're going to get some angry emails. What all NBA? I think he was actually on. I think he was fourth. I'm looking at our list now, we had Katie one, Giannis two LeBron three, Steph was fourth in front of jokic, who was 5. LeBron's taking a little bit of a tumble. I hate to break it down. This is gonna be really interesting. Step will probably be three then, is my guess and maybe jokic four. I think LeBron's gonna get a lot of motivation out of my list. Well, unfortunately yeah, we also have to, the tricky part, of course, is pitching it forward. So it's like you have a guy like when was when was the last time KD LeBron escaped last year on our list, by the way? In the top ten? Who? Hardin? Better than beat. He was 7. It's disgusting. Oh my God. So I would be closer to 77 this year. When was this? When was the last time KD KD Kawhi LeBron and Steph were all healthy during the playoffs? That's what I want. That's what I do. I know. I just need to see that. Hopefully. And that's going to make the playoffs next year. Do you guys want to talk I don't want to talk about Jayson Tatum, but I have it here on the outline. I guess just what was your impression of his performance in the finals, his entire postseason run. As I will say, credit to your guy, D wade, really the only parallel that I can see in recent NBA history for someone that young 24 under being the best player in a team that gets to the finals little and winning the championship. Tatum, wade, LeBron and O 7, that's like the whole list. I might be missing someone. I think that's like, that's it. It's pretty impressive stuff. Yeah. So first of all, shout out to D wade, don't get me started on the heat ruined the first 7 years of his career. Absolutely botched it. They did. They did. They flew too close to the sun. It's like the Lakers argument with LeBron, it's like they wanted title, but every other year has been a disaster. I don't know that the Antoine walker James posey Jason Williams veteran core of role players was the smartest move in hindsight. But I will actually mount a defense for Jason Sanders because I've seen people being like, that was an embarrassing series for him..
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"curry" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"They didn't know what their rotation was until late in the second round of the playoffs, and then a key part of that rotation goes down. So to your point, it all just goes back to Steph because he makes the entire organization's life so much easier. Agreed. Yeah. As Steve Kerr said after the game, none of this happens without Steph Curry. I wrote a story in November about the resurgence of their offense when they got off to that hot start. They were in Brooklyn and they had, I think, the best offense in the NBA. After last season, they finished, I don't even know what the same. They think they finished 21st in offensive rating. I could be making that number up, but almost positive. And they looked like they looked like the warriors again. And it was like, I asked everybody in after the game that came to the podium or the interview room or whatever. And Kerr Wiggins, draymond, and Steph, I asked him, what's the key to this renaissance here? And Wigan's just laughed and was like, Steph Curry. Is that a serious question? Everything is about sniff curry. He's just amazing. And we didn't even talk about the production..
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"curry" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"With one more. I want to give Kobe a little respect for that force. What we've done to learn legacy wise. And when we don't see it in players, young players. Young players that want to mimic Kobe, the force of will is something that really will always distinguish Kobe. So obviously I was like a huge Steph guy. In a huge step defender and to watch him cement his legacy. It's my favorite theme. I'm going to need the summer to sort it out. There's going to be some drinks in the deck. There's going to be some cocktails. There's going to be some sad moments. I left. I left the game. You said. I left for 90 seconds of. My dad's like, I want to get out of here. And we just left that I didn't even see him get the Finals MVP. And I feel like I was like, I was one of his biggest non warrior fans. So I understand. You stayed. There were a lot of people there. A lot of people stayed. Now there was a Boston fans? Yeah, there was a lot of green still in the stands. I respect. He did a great job. He did do a great job. I had my dad wanted to go, and I just said, my dad's 74. I was worried that you might excommunicate Nate and I, because we stayed. But you should have stayed. I got to see Steph Curry get his first ever Finals MVP trope. Yeah, it should have been his second, but however sure, sure, but we should win in 15. I was happy to see it. I was pleased to see what was the reaction with the team and stuff. What do you mean? They chanted MVP while they gave the Mark what's his face,.
NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"curry" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"I'm going to say raptors in 6. All right. I'm going to go in 76ers and 7. I think we get a 7 game series out of this one and I do think the sixers I just think hardening and beat are too good. In the end and I think the raptors maybe a year early. I think they're really good, but I think this might be one year earlier than they expected to be at this level. So yeah, so we were both thinking a good lesson. I think you're probably correct. And that is most likely what's going to happen. I'm just thinking with what would be the most fun would be the raptors going after this 76 years and being able to exploit them in certain ways and things like that. But again, Toronto, go ahead. Always lose this game once. That's true. Does that only count when they're at home? Is that only a home thing? I don't know how that works. Raptors fans weigh in, let us know. Is that only one Toronto is at home that they lose game ones or is that always the thing? Because otherwise Bette Philly heavy in game one is Toronto's history is not been great. In game ones, but yeah. All right. All right, let's go, let's flip it. Let's go all the way to the other side of the country. Golden State. All right. So going into this, the warriors are a 5 point favorite in terms of what I'm talking game one. In terms of running that game, I should have mentioned that on the raptors that won the 76ers were a four and a half point favorite for game one, the warriors are a 5 point favorite here for game one. I mean, to me this all this all hinges on Steph Curry and is he if he's not healthy, then I think the nuggets are gonna win this. If Steph Curry is healthy, I think Golden State walks away. I mean, I know we can get we're gonna get further in depth into our analysis and everything, but is it really just that simple is whether or not stuff curry plays determines the winner? I think there's a real chance. I think it is if we had.
The Here for Her Podcast
"curry" Discussed on The Here for Her Podcast
"I got curry on my pants. Of course you did. This entire room smells like curry right now. And you know what normally I'd be loving it, but being pregnant. I smell for not loving it. Oh my God, she sat here the whole time and didn't say a word and just watched me like stuff my face when I say I stuffed my face. I have never seen everywhere. So fast in my life. It's such a hot mess. I show up in like the fucking phones going off. That thousand times you get all these things. We started podcasting. We stopped, ate some curry to cook call. This is my life. This is why I'm saying, I feel like I'm on a wheel, and I'm just constantly spinning and spinning and spinning..
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"curry" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"Into how this impacts golden states. I guess their title chances. I mean, curry is only supposed to be out a couple weeks a few weeks. Back for the playoffs, but Golden State's schedule is, well, first of all, we should say that Steph Curry is like, even when draymond was out, Steph Curry was everything. And the Golden State Warriors, their offense, was still very good without him. With him, I should say. And fell off a cliff without him. I was looking at some of the lineup data right before we started recording. And I want to ask you out of the top 15 5 man units that the Golden State Warriors have played this year in terms of minutes, minutes played. How many of those 15 lineups do you think Steph Curry has been a part of? I'm going to ask you to repeat it. I'll try to sit back and I would just make sure everyone of the top 15 lineups they have, how many of them have step a part of? How many is no, in terms of minutes played? Top 15 5 man units. How many is Steph in for the Golden State Warriors this season? 15, 5 minutes. I feel like you always got to go with the extreme here. So zero. I'm going to say that he's part of 13 of them. 14, very close, 14. Out of 15, which is just incredible. He is the Golden State warrior still. So you look at their schedule coming up. And it's not a cakewalk. There's a lot of teams that they have this upcoming road trip against teams that aren't, you know, there's like the wizards, the hawks, teams that aren't crazy, good or anything, but teams that have some investment, I think, still in the last few weeks of the season and trying to win and the hawks obviously. Don't have John Collins who last night we learned that he'll be out indefinitely with his own foot injury. So that's a bummer, but they play the heat. They have some tough opponents coming up. So it's just going to be really interesting because you look at the standings and who they're ahead of. And who they've just fallen behind, you know, right now they're in third place. Right behind the Memphis Grizzlies. They're just in front of the jazz, the Mavericks, and I think they're safely ahead of the nuggets in that 6 seed, but you look at see how far ahead is just when you talk about the jazz. And then three and a half games with essentially what three weeks left. How much more time do we have now? Something like that, three weeks or so. Yes. Three up in Alaska. Three up in the last column. It'll be interesting. We'll see. I don't know what their schedule looks like. It's interesting. Either way, they could without curry in all these games. They could go on a losing streak. That's not out of the question..
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"curry" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"And it feel like this also, the warriors kind of came and they ruined everyone's best laid plans, right? Not just LeBron, but like the other guy, I think the west that we want to talk about is Chris Paul is like, well, we went from concur really do it to like, wait, no, he's actually the best point guard in the Louis right now. And he's taking the point God, mantle away from I guess that's always going to be Chris nickname, right? But I don't know. I haven't really hurt anybody call him that. In a while, I think we saw it a little bit in the playoffs in Phoenix, but guess who's out, right? Both these both these guys to me have been so impacted by curry, but they've also curry the warriors have become an interesting mirror for us to look at the flaws of LeBron and Chris or the perceived flaws even. Because they kind of push the leak forward a little bit where I think LeBron came into an NBA that I give him a lot of credit for the first the first like 7 years of his career where he's a teenager and he's like, you know, making these plays and making these extra pass is that other people are just saying that he shouldn't be making and he came into a league that was very much about hearable. And it really didn't fit the style that he wanted to play and then like, you know, 20 years later, that is the style, right? It's driving kick basketball. And the idea then was that he was too unselfish, and then I think at some point in the cab's warriors, warriors runs, just like with LeBron's high usage, the way that he was with his teammates, not like the way he was with Kyrie, I guess. I don't know. I think the stats kind of burial that he's been a selfless player regardless of who he's playing with, but I think there's maybe the off court stuff a little bit, but also just sometimes these things show up like somebody takes just as many shots as they used to, but they're not dribbling the ball as much because one guy has it for 20 seconds. And we just know that's not really the case with Steph. So I feel like not only did he come in and kind of like cut some of the years that these guys could win rings that he also just kind of shifted the narrative on who they are as players. Yeah, it does feel like he's played with a lot of talented guys. Certainly more than curry at this point. And you think like wade was the one I think in the first Miami season that was able to play with LeBron and still be a 100% of what he was. And then the second version was Davis and that bubble season, where Davis, that was the best of what he was. But Kyrie it felt like maybe in some ways that was the best situation for him because Kyrie is like the cat that jumps on your lap every once in a while, it makes them threes and then he kind of goes away and then he comes back. But love, he had, you know, love was never the same when he went to the cabs. He was awesome on Minnesota and I don't really know why he just became this guy who stood in the corner and occasionally got rebounds, things like that. I think what's interesting about curry with this specific team that they built around him is there's an infectiousness with him. And unselfishness about him as a teammate and as somebody who doesn't really need to take a ton of shots for the team to win. And it's just so constantly positive and they can win if he doesn't play well, which is such a rare thing for a superstar. There was a play, you know, they spent only a few teams, I think, ever. Where there's like a real unselfishness to them. And people are just moving without the ball in a way that's just like on another level. And I do think the words have that this year. There's a play in the game the other day, not the one yesterday, but the one a couple days ago. When they're making a run, they're closed. I forget they're playing, but they're closing out somebody on Sunday Night, I think. And Saturday night. And curry curry, they get a rebound. Curry comes down. Drives to the foul line, throws it in the corner or two, I think Wiggins. Then cuts to the basket, gets the ball back for what seems to be a layup, but decides he doesn't like the ads. So he throws it in a corner to Gary Payton the second. Then he scoots all the way around to the corner. Flips it back to him, sets a screen for him and curry hits a three. And there was like all these things are happening in this play where it's like, all right, curries made three different cuts in the same play. He's playing with somebody in the corner who understands exactly who he is. Like if that goes to Kelly you bray either he's shooting it or he's forgetting to set the pick. Peyton understands like, oh, I'm gonna set one. They're always thinking like, how can we free up stuff? How can we free up staff steps? I was thinking, I'm cutting. I'm cutting I'm cutting. I'm cutting a moving hair moving here. And then everybody starts doing that. And they're getting back cuts all the time. And this team they built if auto Porter plays well, they seem kind of unbeatable. I don't remember a LeBron team like that where you just have all these different dudes who seem to just be playing kind of above their above their skis, maybe the closest was that 2013 Miami team, but LeBron was still so great that year. But they had Ray Allen that year. And there were role players that stepped up and that really did feel like a true. That was the one time it really felt like a true everybody chipping in playing above their skis team. But.
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"curry" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"So that's things like unlimited vacation time, wild perks, and the wellness craze. I'm working it will separate the good, the bad and the whoo whoo. I'll be joined by fellow FT journalists who report on these stories every day. And together we'll figure out what really works. So that's working it from the Financial Times. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, let's move on. I want to talk real quick about I wrote this piece on the site that was kind of a build off of a conversation we had in our last episode about how December 15th, which was yesterday is a day where a lot of players who recently signed contracts in the off season become trade eligible. And one of those players, the number one most interesting player in my opinion is Kemba Walker. And the next one and 7 since Kemba Walker was removed from the rotation. They have the 29th defense in the NBA since he was removed from the rotation. And I'm watching the Steph Curry, the magical stiff curry game. We break the record and I'm sitting on my couch shedding a tear. And it's like, I completely forgot that Kemba Walker was even on the team, and then they showed him later in the game, still on the bench, despite all of the there's a ton of players and health and safety protocols for the Knicks. And you would just think that it makes sense to play him over rookies and younger players for a team that he's not on a veteran minimum contract. And you paid him because you think he can help and he was shooting over 40% by the three point line. I understand the on offs and all that. But why is he still out of the rotation? I guess is the question I have here? And is it because the Knicks just like don't want him to get hurt before a potential trade? Just like, how weird is this, really?.
NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"curry" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"Like the reps would have yeah, 'cause there's no there's no attempt at a basketball play there. It's completely unnecessary contact. I would hope sometimes you see those moments where it escalates and then that causes them retroactively to go, oh yeah, okay, well, then he's going to. I do wonder what would happen there. But in any event, I think jokic at the very least is getting suspended. Marquise Morris maybe gets suspended as well. And then we'll see what happens from there for both sides. Let's jump over to hawks and warriors. You know, always kind of funny because Trey young in some ways is kind of seen as the second coming of Steph Curry or or at least that style of player. I don't know that you're ever going to find a shooter that's the quality of stuff curry, but still it was kind of a teacher versus student sort of battle here, right? With curry versus young and Corey was once again tremendous. The warriors pull out the win one 27 to one 13 playing some of the best basketball in the NBA right now. I mean, they're 9 and one. And accordingly, oddsmakers have now set Steph Curry as the favorite to win MVP this season, I'd still early, but that feels like a pretty accurate pick to me right now based on the way stuff is playing and the way the warriors are playing as well. Yeah, hard to argue at 50 points, ten assists, 7 reboots two points. 9, three. Last night, yeah, he absolutely won't bananas. Yeah, best team in the league right now, but best record. It was funny I was asked on a radio hit. What's different about the warriors this year versus the last couple of years? Because still Thompson is out. Well, two years ago, everything fell apart to this team. Clay was out KD had left. And we knew curry we knew they weren't going to be quite as good then curry got her very early in the season. Jeremy on green was in and out. But in some ways, I think what this has done is, this is now paying off a couple of years later because guys like Jordan Poole. Damien Lee. Damien Lee, those guys got experience playing for this team, then that they would not have gotten otherwise had this team been more healthy in the last couple of years. And that's now paying off because now they've got pretty good depth behind those mainline guys. I also think they're off season additions. Our guys that fit within what they do versus trying to bring a guy in and hoping that player can change his game to fit what they do, they want to go guys, who just already fit in. Clearly, Andre Iguodala, they knew work. They brought him back. But the monument elites auto Porter junior. Those guys just fit in what they do and then when you've got guys like Lee and toscano Anderson and pool, stepping up and playing well, they look pretty good. And we know James wiseman's return is coming around the corner here somewhere. That's probably going to be another ten, 15 minutes off the bench that hopefully will be helpful. Good minutes. And then clay Thompson is going to return at some point, probably around or shortly after the holidays. So I don't necessarily see barring a major injury..
Hack
"curry" Discussed on Hack
"These issues coming up. I think open. Communication is always the cliche. But it's a cliche for reason. And i think also highway viewing out sex life and how a viewing you know sexual satisfaction so often sexy our goal orientated for people it is about erections. It's about orgasms. And actually you know. How do we reframe sexual world. So that we're actually focusing on things like pleasure and fun and i think then if we're having issues with erection we're having issues with the beta. We can still kind of work on that without partner but our partner has to have the same kind of expectations going in so it is kind of having that conversation of what we're able to do sexually what helps us actually particularly times of day Different around antidepressants and kind of getting them on board. So that we look at this. As you know a team effort towards how we best have the best sex weekend sarah's codeine what was your experience on antidepressants with my. Yeah i'm the With my experience. I found that with my partner. We we used to be able to have like really really really really good sex. And i obviously i i'm on antidepressants and i am on. Sri they weren't necessarily great for like other diagnoses that i have but for the anxiety and panic disorders. It's hard because you can't really notice if they're effective all your on them. But when i wasn't he could really really tell and so well out. That life is kind of struggling and that aspect. Just because i'm i'm i'm also i say sexual. We've struggled with that originally but we kind of put it down to the facts. That even if i stop taking the medication. That's not really a win for us. Because then i'm at risk to myself so it was sort of like publishing will was more worthwhile whether it was my merge but having great sex or may not really being anything at all and that's not just sexually but emotionally like feel like but we flat bought and not a home to myself if that makes them hardly does and i think that's obviously an issue that a lot of people are weighing up. Sarah i really appreciate you calling in and speaking about something. That's so personal to you. But it is something the texans going off It's something that a lot of people are experiencing lauren. Sarah's brought up a really good point they how do you weigh up that preference you know dealing with your mental health and stabilizing. You'll mood this. Is you know dealing with your sex drive and so on because it's probably personal preference but it is a hard decision right. It is a hard decision. I think we all need to understand that you know mental health is hugely important but sexual health also affects them into health and affect co overall life. So i think it's kind of not always be that moment either. I think it is about in discussions without doctors without providers around ave the medications. We can try. Can we try low dosage and if we find a medication that works but still not quite working prospects. Exide's can we work with other people around. How do we help foster alabama help you know. Put some things into place whether it's around timing of sex and yes we might lose a little bit of fun tonight but we still might be able to create a really satisfying sex life with ourselves as well as pa so i think it is that you know. It's not always quite a decision. But i think we need to not lessen the sexual health and we can't obviously lose to a healthy though back on triple j. That is learned french sixth-largest. Thanks so much for joining us to you next time..
Hack
"curry" Discussed on Hack
"Don't say that has got worse than as government. Someone has texted as well. The pam's performance cari cooking is as fake as the rest of his social media. Professional photo shoots krishna often. When we talk about multiculturalism younis-style stralia. It's always put out there as sort of like a a thing. We should celebrate but for people who don't get it. Why is it tokenistic when it is just on the food level and not anything further than that because three days just one aspect of how we engage with each other as a society and as you mentioned. I'm a representative full. One of the most multicultural areas in in south west sydney and my community has suffered greatly over the last four months because of some of the really harsh restrictions and the look down associated with the with the with the pandemic and part of that has to do with Stereotyping has to do with Perceptions of what our community is like and You know every everything from what family situation is like to howie. How support networks work through to who is Who can access government assistance. And the part of the reason why i community suffered so much was because Governments didn't actually take the time to to listen to engage appropriately to then feed that information back into effective and constructive policy. And that's the and that's the reality of the situation because i'm food is pretty is one elemental it but at the end of the day what actually met is how governments affect people's daily lives and The the scott morrison government has has shown that they really don't take people from multicultural communities very seriously on that front and a lot of people texting. Who says that. He's he's making the car is that that's a valid point. But obviously he's posting about them. He's not just making. The car is behind the scenes posting the money. Social media pages. They're getting huge traction. And he's getting a lot of kudos for that but kershaw and just quickly before we go. You know a lot of politicians prime minister's try to to put on this sort of normal guy image right tony. Abbott had the budgie smugglers which was actually a bit. we'd kevin. Rod had the hand at schools for some reason which was also kind of strange scott. Morrison got the karis. Why is it. Do you feel that politicians need to put on that kind of soda. You're an incoming politician. What's your thing. I the lights abilities kind of Something that's worth it's waving old when it comes to how you connect with your community right and you know if you can even on social media show that you are a normal person that you're not just some sort of You know alien in lizard. Search that you actually have the same Cut of carbs dreams aspirations as you neighbor or the press and down the street or whatever it builds a sense of respect and trust and that's what most politicians immersed public representatives are trying to do. They're trying to build trust. They're trying to build a sense of connection But it has to be backed by authenticity. And that's a really important thing if it's not backed by authenticity as one of your obviousness said it's fake and it's not effective charisma kalianda who is a councillor ian liverpool in south west sydney. Thanks so much for coming on the show. Josh and fitzroy's text. I'm no fan of scott morrison and won't be voting for him but he's making an effort. We should support any efforts. Even if we're wary and someone else owl's gotti kes- about his marketing. It's a visual thing especially with an election coming. Pack one small step in announcing these spot a giant leap for australia heading to the moon for the first time in history on triple j. Uc's hack my name's avenue bias. And could you leave inspects. Australia is about to launch a first mission to the moon. The national space agencies is going to send a roy for there which will ultimately help find out if humans can leave in space. It's being promoted as a way for australia to enter the world space missions and the government says it's about creating jobs in this sector it will cost fifty million dollars. Anthony moffat is from these trillion space agency. Thanks for coming on the show. So tell us about this. Roy vote which will be sent from australia to the moon. That's being developed in australia. Great to be here this afternoon to talk to you all and it is an exciting day today. The prime minister and the minister. Science and technology announced that The australian spice agency saw in agreement with nasa to a small arriva about twenty twenty kilos in size to the surface of the moon. And this is really really exciting Because it's leveraging some of the great capabilities. We have he in stryer in automation and broke botox areas in the resources sector. So people see those big yellow trucks. What we're doing is taking the technology that might they meant allows them to drive by themselves and put them into a little river and work with nassar and put it on the surface of the moon. And what's also exciting when it's on the surface of the main actually note about roy. It's going to be the it's to pick up the lunar soil all the books and it's going to pass it over to a project run by nasa that will try and extract a form of oxygen. Which is really important of course one so that we can breathe when we're on the surface of the main but it's also a potential source of fuel. Yeah and one part of that is obviously the ability to potentially send humans and have sustainable life up in space. Can you explain how that could work going. Fluid if you do discover through the rover that That sort of form of oxygen is around it. So one of the reasons that there's a big focus on looking activities on the moon is around a three day trip and that means that we can sort of undertake these type of experiment to identify. Their oxygen is the for example. The soil of the regular one thing you can also do is use the material to three d print infrastructure even replacement wheels so it actually creates A range of experiments attest that sustainability. Because when you on the surface of the moon you wanna be shipping things for all us all the time because it's really expensive to get into get into all that and then onto onto the marine surveying out of look what we can use in ciccio on the surface and then becomes really really important and these taught emissions of the first stepping stein there. And what's exciting about this as well. Is that means that australia has the capabilities and the audience. We're talking to you today. Can now when they going school at university or thinking about what they wanna do in korea. We can do spice and we can do it here in australia. Yeah that's obviously a big element of these people. it's a classic thing dreaming of going to space when you're a little kid but ultimately in australia it would probably main having to move overseas but this would mean more jobs potentially what could it mean in terms of possibilities for young people in working in the space industry and this is this is what's really exciting about these. Firstly where side by side with nasa. But al vision he at the australian space agency is to create another twenty thousand jobs by twenty thirty and triple the strikes by sector from three four billion to twelve billion by twenty thirty and these talk emissions become really important one they inspire. We want kids. We want the The younger generation to the sky and neither destroy has technology up there so it made it engineers data scientists 'cause not only talking about word buddy. These other missions such as federal. Let's take images of the to help file so it means that we want datta scientists but we also won't communicators and excitingly Spice liz As we think about people undertaking more activities in spice. It's actually being a very big economy me and it's full custody. One trillion bought twenty four year round the gore. Australia's now has a seat at the table and providing opportunities.
Are Weeb There Yet?
"curry" Discussed on Are Weeb There Yet?
"There was a little bit. More penguin antics I'm so sorry to mislead you like this extra scene penguins but Yeah they scuffle with the fish or scuffle with cat fighting over the fish call for some reason chance to be pretty already is come home. They're like oh that was tense. And we came home empty handed. Still don't have penguin durham but Himalayas areas like. You skipped school again. Jesus christ i'm so mad at you but i can't actually be mad at you because we have a guest best friend ringo who so ringo is. They're gonna stay for dinner so just casually Fate accident funny ways. That's the series But yeah. They eat the curry that she stole. And they're like oh this is delicious. She's like mike he's better and they're like what this is cheater. Curry or currie So they're they're bonding they're like oh if you if you don't have anyone to eat curry with your welcome here anytime Where fast friends and canova's like. Hey did you have just for the sake of argument Hyper specific tasks that you needed to complete today and if you failed it Potentially life shattering things would happen. And she's like yeah go incidence. And she's like yeah. It will make my destiny. Come true and that's where we end the episode so in summary. The boys break into an apartment. A girl cooks curry steal some curry and then eats curry. Yeah it's curry day carrying. Why hurry the go-to for enemies. It feels like every anime has like a curry episode or someone talking about curry. I mean significant enough like japanese dish to to warrant. Enough cultural osmosis in two more chose. That's pretty tasty love ago. Why is there so much rice in these japanese show. Let's see that again because it's like the agree but it's curry specifically another anyway. There's also a little honor and kappa plush in ringo's room and in the gift shop and the aquarium wow sarah's on my no foreshadowing yeah real quick we it happened real fast so it wasn't really touched on an episode one but the first time they meet hat lady in that like a song sequence at the very end of it her clothes run away they just jump off of her she reaches into a boy and polls orb out of his chest and i was like. Oh no it begins. I forgot about that so so she never did. It again. never happened again. So it's like oh it's a recurring thing. This creator just loves rippin orbs atta boys but no happens once and then sat in the back of his head and he was like one day one day. This is gonna be a big deal on storyboarding just like circle and highlighted that scene. Like we gotta do more. Why i don't know why but fate keeps calling me back to this. This is my thing winter. Am i need this. I wish this show was just about the little penguins with some siblings. And that was it but unfortunately they try to be serious. Yeah yeah see. That's my problem with this show. Are we there yet. No boring have three episodes where they are given clear goals to accomplish and they don't really do that and don't get things like resolved in a satisfying way. It's okay follow this girl and we'll do it for two episodes will get there eventually..
BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"curry" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"So that's helpful. But then again, when used the other way, you know, when you're a good team and you can then make them, you can just extend those leads craziness. And without fans, we've seen this, I've talked to some NBA guys, something about the fans and the pressure that puts on a lot of different players in the NBA affects them as well. Believe it or not. And so without fans, a lot of those players, probably shot a lot better than they would have with fans in the stands so that probably has something to do with the fact that like something scores got out of hand and some of these, you know, the the the leads got out of hand as well. It'll be interesting to see when we get fans back in the stage. I'm assuming that will be next year you know get your vaccine please and if we can do that will see if there's any kind of blip on the, on the, the macro analysis of three point shooting club. But I kind of feel like I maybe I'll check it real quick. I feel like and three-point frequency has kind of leveled off or maybe gone down a little bit this year, which would be little bit crazy. Consider how long 3-point frequency? Let's just give you an anecdotal version. The Jazz are number one if three-point frequency at 49.1%, and there, by the way, they're shooting 39% overall, it's probably first or second. Now, the Rockets are behind them off at 45% and then the Blazers 45. So, top three are 4946 and 45. Let's go back. One season just for fun. This is not a scientific way to do this but we can do it that way. Last year, the Rockets were fifty fifty point one and then it went down to 45 and then forty-three..
BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"curry" Discussed on BBALL BREAKDOWN Podcast
"And then I did a video saying, well if you call him albums to call out your own player who did it for years and years and he did it on purpose. Yeah so I have no no no love lost for Bruce Bowen I mean listen look good for him for like you know carving out a career and making something happen for Thursday. Without limited ability, but the idea that he would do that there was so much evidence to Kobe as well of him doing a sliding underneath her feet and and trying to get him the, you know, roll their ankles horrible. But but duly note it, I mean, certainly if they're not on the floor, that's one way you can stop them. I would also say whatever happened to a double-team. How does if you took well? We know that stuff will pass the ball. He'll be there. He'll do the right play, know pass the ball and that's the goal. The goal should be getting out of his hands, right? Like it shouldn't he shouldn't have it as much as he did Even though again the Thunder are not incentivised to win. They're not a good defensive team anyway but we see like the good teams as well do this. And they don't necessarily double enough who is going to hurt them and the Warriors you know, dribbling and space. It's acting in the rim on a what? Like I guess a four on three. Nobody maybe it. Maybe you can get Draymond Green going and setting somebody up for Thursday. I don't stay home and tear him to shoot any kind of Runner or floater or sort of any shot at The Rim. I don't, I would take my chances with that over anything Curry shot. Well, the one team that was able to, like, hold in to like a real, like a 13 points was the Clippers and like, they barely won that game, which kind of surprising. It was like, in the beginning of the year, like, maybe, I don't know if you remember, but it was like, maybe it was it January or December is mm. Yeah. I, you know, I don't remember that but I'm trying I'll have to go through and figure out what they did if anything because again, when you watch the Mysteries, I was studying to my side it's like okay, what did the defense do offer to make him miss that three? And I gotta tell you on some of them, it's like nothing like you just pulled up, he was open again, lewd or fell asleep, a number of times so we can go into that a little bit in a second while the man human. Yeah. I mean that that's, that's what it is. I mean, it's like but then again if we can reverse-engineer what we see from the defense you can try and do it more often obviously and then that would maybe help about it. But again. I think they have a discussion because especially when you see them, go to the basket and finish over Biggs with loaders. This is the most skilled. I've ever seen any player be especially pound-for-pound that it's six three, right?.
The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"curry" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"But you do need to do it in a way. That doesn't hamstring you. One quick note. It may not just be the timber wolves pick and maybe the warriors bad as as they've shown time so we'll see where this goes it may be too top five top eight top ten whatever in a strong draft and if weisman blossoms into a star still a little early for that the a good indication so far but yeah they may have that rare ability to pull off the smoothest transition from championship era dynasty era to the next era without having to bottom out in a major way or bottom out for too long like they they kinda did bottom out in terms of record this past year but weird circumstances with klay out and all that stuff but they might be able to thread that needle. It's really tough to do. And but you want curry therefore it if if at all possible the one thing i'll say just in supportive of your your framing which is like. Let him hit free agency. he'll be thirty four at that time right. And so how many teams even if the if the fear we're we're going to lose them for agency. How many teams are going to go. Max out of thirty four year old Especially a smaller guard who. They don't generally age as well probably. There's probably not a lot of risk there unless you know say it's charlotte. Who just wants to bring him home and like you know have plant a flag. You'll put up. Put a nice little know flagging their kappa. Whatever i don't think there's a lot of danger there. I guess the other danger though is more of are you. Are you doing a disservice as it insulting in some way to steph curry to say you know what we're waiting waiting for free agency. We we just have to see where we are in hand and how you look like. Is that the wrong way to treat a guy who's much the franchises at the wrong signal to send to other stars and their agents and their families because that is. There's a political reality to chris. You do have to factor in perceptions and just wanting to show that we're the kind of franchise that always takes care of its own. I get that. Although i would argue that writing checks the total forty five million dollars in that last season is thanks enough. I mean i mean you. And i know it's never that simple. It isn't right. It isn't worth watching. Good piece by michael pena check it out over at sl dot com It's up right now on the site. You decided it was time to upgrade your outdoor deck. So you got all the essentials to do it. You.
Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"curry" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"He was two or three years ago. I mean he's not making nearly as many impact. Defensive plays on a game to game basis now. Then he did back in the san antonio days not even close and it's because he has security this heavier burden on offense but he's not getting to the foul line ten times like he did against phoenix night. That's just not who he is as a player. And i think that you know. He's smart about how he manages the low but my question is he turn it back up when it matters in the playoffs and he didn't against denver. You look at two of those four losses against denver. They were both his fault right. And so i mean look. I expecting this to get worse by not necessarily better. I feel like his best. Years are probably behind him or if not he's right in the middle of them right now and it's just a huge contract to be carrying when you've already paid paul george it's gonna limit who you are as an organization. I'm not saying that. Their title window is closed. But i i would be goping. If i had to give that quite leonard deal and i wouldn't have said that you know when i signed him in two years ago i would've said well give him whatever he wants. But i don't think the last year and a half has played out very well for well. This is fascinating just because it kind of speaks to the dilemma organizations. Have they have a player. Who's so talented and in their prime but looking for that next contract mean. This goes back to The steph curry conversation at the very top of our episode a little bit But like you know your question of whether or not would be Or how long it could be really effective on. That contract is like yeah players. Who are in their mid. Thirties are probably not worth fifty million dollars. So it's just not what they productions not going to be there. Unless you're lebron james. So if kawhi leonard is lebron james then sure i feel great about it. He's probably not gonna look that way when he's thirty five years old but that's just like what it is. I in with everybody. So i don't really know what to do about that beyond offering him three years and hoping he doesn't get upset but he will so you got to offer the five and that's just what it is but i think a little higher on him in a little bit more optimistic about what he still has to offer and i don't see precipitous decline in his game As much as you do particularly on the defensive end where. I still think. He's an all defensive player us. Oh really yes so. That's basically kind of where i am with colossal..