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"cunard community" Discussed on The Propaganda Report

The Propaganda Report

05:26 min | 9 months ago

"cunard community" Discussed on The Propaganda Report

"Authorized their authorized. You are allowed to do it because there's an emergency. so this is the washington post getting maximum. Pinocchio 's from me well they deserve as many pinocchio dole out because you're right saying that it has been approved and it's not expecting really calling americans basically crazy and dangerous for not wanting to just jump a non approved vaccine this experimental it's backwards world and fau cheese speaking of that same survey he wants trump to push his supporters to get the co vaccine after what is being called a disturbing poll result whereas you said the white trump cunanan like supporters are most likely to take the vaccine and found. She urged this at the right. After the psa that included all the other former presidents that are still alive who promoted to getting the vaccine to to the population trump did not appear in that psa. They blocked him out of it. But so and this away. The african american community is being targeted for vaccine hesitancy. Now we have trump cunard community being targeted for vaccine hesitancy. This is a way to kind of create an apartheid from using that term correctly based on ideology at this point you can say you support trump or believe these certain things you are dangerous and therefore you must be separated from society based on those beliefs and it's a choice so you're allowed to be discriminated against for something that's a choice so that's what they're gonna say with that. Yeah felt she also went on to discuss something that you brought last week. The three feet study. There's a study. Where's the study out of massachusetts massachusetts. That found that. There's no difference and social distancing three feet and six feet will jake tapper brought that up and fau just took it in stride saying that. Yeah this is part of the data that we're collecting as the state comes in. We're gonna be talking to the cdc. I talked to them every day. And we're going to be making new public health recommendations based on studies like this. So i expect it to get moved to three feet sue but it makes you wonder what the hell of we've been doing the past year. Then if you're waiting for the data now well..

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"cunard community" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

08:26 min | 11 months ago

"cunard community" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Dave Davies in for Terry Gross. Who's off this week? We're speaking with Craig Timberg. He's a national technology reporter for the Washington Post specializing in privacy, security and disinformation. He's written recently about the followers of the Cuban on conspiracy theories and other extremist groups that were involved in the assault on the U. S Capitol on January 6th. We're talking about how President Trump's departure and social media restrictions on him and many of these groups Will affect them and the nation in the coming months. So let's talk about how Trump's departure and the capital assault affected all of this After this happens and You know, Trump goes to Florida and Joe Biden is inaugurated and Trump, you know, kind of condemns the violence. How have to a non members reacted? Different people have reacted in different ways. And I'd say there is absolutely a group that says, Hold on a minute. Where what happened to the storm? How is Joe Biden now president and there's clearly Consternation. In some cases, outrage among people who feel like they were misled. Can we just focus on them for a moment? Trade? I mean, are they saying, Hey, we've been duped. Are they say this was all we've been played? What do we hear? We have heard exactly those kinds of comments. People feeling do people feeling played people being angry? Yes, and have some of them left or taken down their sites or, yes, hard to know exactly what the impact has been because you know, Twitter, etcetera have been so aggressive at knocking these forms down. I mean, in preparation for this conversation, I sort of portraits familiar places. It's actually relatively hard. Get a feel for what's going on the Cunard community because the community's been smashed into 100 different bits and you can find it, but it used to be. You talked queuing on into Twitter and you, you knew immediately. What was on people's minds is just not true anymore. Clearly some disappointment, some disillusionment. What about others who are still believers? How did they interpret these events? So I would say they fall into two broad categories. There are those who believe that the great storm is still coming in some way, shape or form. Even though President buying is now in office, and I guess sections to generations of this one is one is that President Trump is secretly in charge and controlling events from Mara Lago. I guess Thea other is that there's a new date March 4th, which is was the original inauguration day in this Country was done away with e. I believe in the thirties and that when March 4th arrives, Donald Trump full swoop back in is I've been president all along. I'm taking a second term and then the mass arrests and the coming storm all happened then so we'll have to see what happens to that group. And when that day comes and goes But then there's like an even more angry kind of dead ender group that is feeling as though this central tenets of Cuba not about pedophilia and saying, worshiping, etcetera. I've been through all along that Donald Trump was not. Maybe the Messiah they thought he was. I mean, that they're sort of like preparing for a longer struggle. Of all the groups that one kind of scares me because they're really doubling down on the most terrifying parts of these prophecies. So let's talk about what's happened on social media platforms in response to a particular the violence at the Capitol. What have these large platforms done all of the big platforms? Really all it once acted against Donald Trump. They began seeing what we all had seen for a long time. Which was that the president was a huge source of this information that was reverberating to the our world and shaping it in all sorts of ways. And so he got, you know, deep pot formed by Twitter and Facebook and such and Uh and other online forums that were pro trump and also procured not also have really had a rough few weeks. So one we've written a lot about his parlor, which was founded is kind of what they would call it free speech alternative to Twitter. They were supposed to be Essentially no rules. As long as what you did was legal, you know Parlor was knocked off line. It was kicked out of the APP store by Apple and Google. Its Web hosting services from Amazon were withdrawn and they're working pretty hard to get back online, But they're really not online now. And another form the that was very prominent. All of this called the Donald thought Wind has also disappeared. And now there's two new versions of that. And it's not clear which one of those is going to emerge. So in the in the social media world, the mainstream platforms have cracked down on this stuff They've closed. Tens of thousands of accounts finally, and in addition to that the smaller platforms have really struggled to stay online and stay coherent. It's been a tough It's a tough time to be a que non believer. Believe it enough, right? Certainly hard for people like you to find them and presumably harder for them to find each other. Yeah. I mean, I think that the conventional wisdom is a the Internet such a big place that there will always be places for them to gather and talk to each other What they loses the ability to like. He'll talk to my uncle might stumble about this stuff on on Facebook like that. That has really been removed. But but be the other place people have gone are these encrypted Shop, perhaps signal and telegram etcetera, and I love these abs like I use signal every day all day long, and I think it's great, but the down side of it is that there's really no way to monitor what's going on on a platform where the communications are encrypted end to end meaning from my phone to your phone, and so I think there's a lot of evidence. That folks have moved off of places where they can be easily monitored not just by researchers and journalists like me, but also by the FBI. They have moved off of these places into these darker, quieter places. Where where they can speak in an unfettered way. There's no report. There's very little possibility anyway. Be overheard by someone they don't want. Overheard by, maybe should catch some of us who are less technologically savvy up a bit on this you said you used what was the signal? I use signal and, you know what is it? What do you The tour. Signal is a is a is a communications app that goes essentially from phone to phone or computer to computer. And so when I send a message or have a phone call on signal My software in my phone turns it into encryption, which is basically you know, it was intercepted on the way looks just like a jumble of code. Uh, it just sort of gibberish essentially and then you go down it lands in, say, my friend's phone and it gets unencrypted and becomes my voice or an image or a text message. And so for someone like me who You know, does a lot of communicating and doesn't necessarily want everyone to know what I'm saying about whatever or or who I'm talking to. It's a complete God set. I mean, reporters in Washington used signal and similar things all the time, and that's true of human rights workers. It's true of political dissidents, the ability to communicate without Government easily just happen in is great. But as with all of these technologies, it's also something where criminals use it and you know and terrorist. Use it. And so it's a double edged sword. Ultimately, I love it, but the police don't love it. I could tell you that. Let me reintroduce you gonna take another break here We're speaking with Craig Timberg. He's a national technology reporter for The Washington Post will continue our conversation after this short break. I'm Dave Davies, and this is fresh air..

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"cunard community" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

06:14 min | 11 months ago

"cunard community" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"N. Y c independent journalism in the public interest, 93.9 FM and AM a 20 NPR News and the New York conversation. This is fresh air. I'm Dave Davies in for Terry Gross. Who's off this week? We're speaking with Craig Timberg. He's a national technology reporter for the Washington Post specializing in privacy, security and disinformation. He's written recently about the followers of the Q and a on conspiracy theories and other extremist groups that were involved in the assault on the U. S Capitol on January 6th. We're talking about how President Trump's departure and social media restrictions on him and many of these groups Will affect them and the nation in the coming months. So let's talk about how Trump's departure and the capital assault affected all of this After this happens and You know, Trump goes to Florida and Joe Biden is inaugurated and Trump, you know, kind of condemns the violence. How have to a non members reacted? Different people have reacted in different ways. And I'd say there is absolutely a group that says, Hold on a minute. Where what happened to the storm? How is Joe Biden now president and there's clearly Consternation. In some cases, outrage among people who feel like they were misled. Can we just focus on them for a moment trick? I mean, are they saying, Hey, we've been duped. Are they say this was all we've been played? What do we hear? We have heard exactly those kinds of comments. People feeling do people feeling played people being angry? Yes, and have some of them left or taken down their sites or, yes, hard to know exactly what the impact has been because you know, Twitter, etcetera have been so aggressive at knocking these forms down. I mean, in preparation for this conversation, I sort of poke to its familiar places. It's actually relatively hard. Get a feel for what's going on the Cunard community because the community's been smashed into 100 different bits and you can find it, but it used to be. You talked queuing on into Twitter and you, you knew immediately. What was on people's minds is just not true anymore. Clearly some disappointment, some disillusionment. What about others who are still believers? How did they interpret these events? So I would say they fall into two broad categories. There are those who believe that the great storm is still coming in some way, shape or form. Even though President Bind is now in office, and then I guess I was too iterations of this one is that one is that President Trump has secretly in charge and controlling events from Mara Lago. I guess Thea other is that there's a new date March 4th, which is was the original inauguration day in this Country was done away with e. I believe in the thirties and that when March 4th arrives, Donald Trump full swoop back in its I've been president all along. I'm taking a second term and then the mass arrests and the coming storm all happened then so we'll have to see what happens to that group. And when that day comes and goes But then there's like it even more angry kind of dead ender group that is feeling as though this central tenets of Cuba not about pedophilia and saying, worshiping, etcetera. I've been through all along that Donald Trump was not. Maybe the Messiah they thought he was. I mean, that they're sort of like preparing for a longer struggle. Of all the groups that one kind of scares me because they're really doubling down on the most terrifying parts of these prophecies. So let's talk about what's happened on social media platforms in response to Particularly the violence at the Capitol. What have these large platforms done all of the big platforms really all at once acted against Donald Trump. They began seen what we all had seen for a long time, which was that the president was a huge source of misinformation that was reverberating to the our world and shaping it in all sorts of ways. And so he got, you know, deep lot formed by Twitter and Facebook and such and and other Online forums that were pro trump and also procured not also have really had a rough few weeks. So one we've learned a lot about his parlor, which was founded is kind of what they would call it. Free speech alternative to Twitter. They were supposed to be Essentially no rules. As long as what you did was legal, you know Parlor was not go flying. It was kicked out of the APP store by Apple and Google. Its Web hosting services from Amazon were withdrawn and Working pretty hard to get back online, but they're really not online now and another form that there was very prominent. All of this called the Donald thought Win has also disappeared. And now there's two new versions of that, and it's not clear which one of those is going to emerge. So in the in the social media world, the mainstream platforms have cracked down on this stuff. They've closed tens of thousands of accounts finally, and in addition to that the smaller platforms have really struggled to stay online and stay coherent. It's it's been a tough It's a tough time to be a que non believer. Believe it enough, right? Certainly hard for people like you to find them and presumably harder for them to find each other. Yeah, I mean, I think that the conventional wisdom is a the Internet such a big place. That there will always be places for them to gather and talk to each other. What they loses the ability to like. He'll talk to my uncle might stumble upon this stuff on on Facebook like that. That has really been removed. But but be the other place people have gone Are these encrypted chat APS. Signal and telegram etcetera, and I love these abs like I use signal every day all day long, and I think it's great, but the down side of it is that there's really no way to monitor what's going on on a platform where the communications are encrypted end to end meaning from my phone to your phone, and so I think there's a lot of evidence..

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"cunard community" Discussed on The Propaganda Report

The Propaganda Report

05:03 min | 1 year ago

"cunard community" Discussed on The Propaganda Report

"Nu slash prop and start judging the truth for yourself today and the story on them gab believes would be a hit piece which is likely the truth as we saw with the bbc article that showed up at the top of the search results. Most stories on gab from the mainstream media are hit pieces so what gab. Did with the ceo of gab. Did his name is andrew. Tour is he just published his response to their inquiry on their website and senate through emails and here are the relevant parts which is very interesting he. He gives a perspective of what someone who considers himself to be q. Thinks if q and thinks of what he represents opposing the narrative that we normally hear about q. In the mainstream media that's nazi crazy. Dangerous people he says. The cunanan community is much bigger than in alleged. Anonymous government insider making post on an image board. That part may or may not be true. But i don't think it really matters either way. The cuban on community has less to do with q. And more to do with a decentralized new media network that surfaces distributes in fact checks information in real time it is self correcting self editorialising and most importantly it can't be stopped. You can deep platform these people from our legacy tech platforms and call them. Racist and conspiracy theorist in legacy media but nothing can stop what has already been started and it will only continue to grow one big reason. The legacy media is smearing. The cunanan community is because these folks are in direct competition with the legacy media's power structure and control of the flow of information and news. Now listen closely here. The other reason is because many of the many in the cunard community are christian and q. is often shares christian themes the q. And on community. Organizing and uniting christians across all denominations of faith and their search for real news and information about the corrupt and wicked people in power. They're tying it to christianity. And you see when you hear it in the mainstream media so they believed that all democrats are just biting heads off a babies and ages. They're they're not season..

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Facebook expands its ban of QAnon on its platforms

Marketplace Tech with Molly Wood

03:53 min | 1 year ago

Facebook expands its ban of QAnon on its platforms

"This week facebook announced it was taking down any pages or groups tied to the far right conspiracy theory queueing on previously, the company had only removed content that encouraged violence. The outright ban is a big deal because generally facebook has resisted policing any content on its platforms. So will it work to slow the spread of baseless theories about a satanic cult of pedophile is running the world? Travis view is the host of the Cunanan anonymous podcast and has been reporting on the group. Has Inconsistent track record when it comes to enforcing their policies. But this appears to be pretty devastating to the Cunard community on facebook will probably limit their ability to organize and recruit new new people into the movement. Are. There loopholes that they might try to exploit well, yes. As a matter of fact, they may, for example, try to rebrand as simply anti human trafficking groups or try the use misspellings where they spell q c u e instead of Q facebook says that they're aware of how Cunanan messaging changes very rapidly they're going to try to react to that but that will see how well they do in the coming months. I. Think a lot of people are really stunned by the spread of these Really Bananas Theories that this group is spreading how do you think tech has enabled it and what can they we regulators due to to try to to stop it now one thing that social be couples could do with be stopped deciding that the metric of success is purely quantitative in terms of interactions and engagement and likes because this simply pushes people who are radicalized into these these rabbit holes in which they get even more radicalized. So they need to take more seriously the qualitative impacts at their algorithms and their platforms are having on people. And do you see this as a big step in that direction? Do you see facebook actually trying to root out even the ways Cunanan groups may try to get around its new ban. He'll I can't say I have a whole lot of confidence in facebook's ability to enforce policies consistently based on the track record. But when you look at the the amount of pages that were recently banned as a consequence of this new policy is seems to be quite substantial. So I'm hoping for the best do you think the platforms? Sort of legitimize them in a way. Tech

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"cunard community" Discussed on Coronavirus Daily

Coronavirus Daily

07:35 min | 1 year ago

"cunard community" Discussed on Coronavirus Daily

"The center of the Cunanan hoax is the idea that a cabal of Democrats and celebrities are tanic pedophile running a global child sex trafficking operation, and the followers of this hoax believe president trump is secretly leading an effort to stop it all. The Q. and Cunanan takes its name from a fortune user from a few years back who posted in that online forum claiming to be an anonymous government official. I'm GonNa tell you I don't know who Q. is, but I'm just going to tell you about it because I think it's something worth listening to in. This is the voice of Cunanan inherent on the path to Congress Marjorie Taylor Green construction executive from Georgia one congressional primary in a very red district all but guaranteeing her a seat in the House of Representatives. So there's some really interesting things about this person cue that was even after videos emerged of her from two thousand seventeen this one expressing support for on. It also gives you a sense of how Q. Supporters Arrive at some of their beliefs. Another thing is Q. has put out he put out a picture for. It was like a clue and the photo was from an airplane and. Someone figured out the angle from the photograph and it matched the coordinates exactly to the same. Piece of same. That Air Force. One was flying over. Okay. So people believe that q is someone very close to President trump and we should point out. There are a lot of other videos of green unconnected to Q. and on son Islamophobic others about african-americans. And while green just last week backtracked on her support for Cunanan telling Fox News she chose a different path. She isn't the only congressional candidate who signalled support for it in the past. Honestly everything I've heard of Q. I hope I hope that this is real in Colorado. There's Lauren Beaubourg feed a five term incumbent in a primary in June because it only means America's getting stronger and better and people are returning to conservative values and an Oregon Senate candidate Joe Ray Perkins used a Cunanan motto in a now deleted campaign video. We go one we go on I stand with President Trump I san in the teams. Thank you. And thank you Patriots and together, we can save our republic and when a reporter described President trump what the movement is actually about trump didn't disavow it. Of the theory, is this belief that you are secretly saving the world from this site chantik cold of pedophile and cannibals does that sound like something you are behind I haven't I haven't heard that but Is that supposed to be a bad thing or a good thing If if I can help save the world from problems. Willing to do it, I'm willing to put myself out there. Now, the fact that trump acknowledge the cunard community is hugely consequential to to the community because they have been waiting this for years they've been travis view. It's been reporting on Cunanan and host a podcast about the fact that he did nothing to denounce the theory or to now's the followers hugely energized them. I mean they are they are on cloud nine as a wants trump's statements. NPR's Hannah Lamb spoken to view about his podcast and the movement he covers and why he and many others believed Cunanan followers need to be taken more seriously as a domestic threat. Peace Movement. Is True. That's an episode of the podcast Cunanan anonymous. The show takes a deep skeptical look into the world of in on. One of the host Travis. View says queuing on is so outlandish. So we're dicusss that most people didn't take it seriously not federal authorities, not social media platforms at least not until Q. Believers started running for office when things go viral live, even if they're dangerous extremist movements. They might be dismissed as fringe, but once they started entering the halls of Congress than that makes people sit up and pay attention. The watchdog group media matters for America counts nineteen congressional candidates with links to Cunanan who will be on the ballot November. Many are long shots, not Marjorie Taylor Green her primary win in a deep red district means she's all but assured a seat in Congress trump has already tweeted his congratulations. I think Taylor Green started in the bucket where she truly believed in human but now she's Probably drifting more towards the political constituency. Marc Andre Argentino recently wrote about Cunanan for the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point. He Worries Q. is fueling extremism last year in FBI memo called it a potential domestic terrorism threat several Q. supporters already been linked to serious crimes if Gallaher Tracks Q. in on for the London based Institute for Strategic Dialogue, but almost like a cult, you know it really becomes that's almost cult like thinking they have their mantras than their oaths and they you know are so dogmatic and they're thinking. Gallaher, says, the conspiracy now goes well, beyond American politics international groups have formed it's sweeping up new age anti vaccination types. It's reaching millions across social media platforms, outpacing new efforts, by tech, companies to contain it. NPR's Hannah lamb now, I wanNA talk more about the social media part of this because earlier this month NBC News obtained internal facebook documents that revealed there were thousands of active queue in on facebook groups with millions of members and following that report facebook announced this past week it had removed almost eight hundred of those groups from the site it restricted another two thousand or so as well as ten thousand instagram. Accounts and what does restricted me well, facebook says it will no longer recommend Q. on groups to users based on their Algorithm Algorithms preferences. Something facebook had been doing the last week. This is significant because as Hannah mentioned, the conspiracy is sweeping up people who are new age adherents, anti vaccination types, and apparently white evangelical church goers. My colleague Ari Shapiro has more into that Ari is this a surprise and Howard Church? Leaders like talking about it. Well, on one level it's not a surprise because Cunanan tend to be trump supporters and white evangelical church goers also tend to be trump supporters but I talked to a reporter who says there is a much deeper connection here her name Caitlyn baby she writes for the Religion News Service and she talked to a bunch of pastors who are seeing this growing phenomenon in their church and. Trying to talk people out of it. I. Mean they see it as a problem absolutely I mean she said there were a few pastors in small churches who were all in on Cunanan but for the most part, these white evangelical pastors are really concerned like one of them she talked to is named Jebar. He's a senior pastor, of first, Baptist Church in Almonte Texas as a Christmas Church really spreading the message of. The Gospel of Jesus. Christ, because that's the most important messes in the world. So. If the people spreading the message. Are also spreading. Easily debunked crazies lives. WHY WITH THE MESSAGE PEOPLE Right why would we listen to my friend? Joe, who says he's a Christian some of the about Jesus. If he also thinks time you taking over America and upgrading. Pedophile ring.

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"cunard community" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

06:48 min | 1 year ago

"cunard community" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Day. Much of the attention has been on the presidential race, but on a vase looks at how conspiracy theory could make its way into the halls of Congress after the election. America's the greatest country in the world. On Tuesday, Marjorie Taylor Greene won the Republican runoff in Georgia's 14th Congressional District. I'm a conservative Republican. It's an overwhelmingly GOP district, so she's favored to win in November. We have an Islamic invasion into our government offices, but after politico uncovered greens, previous Islamophobic anti Semitic and racist remarks about black people GOP leaders distance themselves condemning her words as appalling, disgusting and bigoted. But Republican leaders remained largely silent about green support for a far right conspiracy very known as Q and on Support she professed in a 2017 video she deleted before her campaign launch. Q is a Patriot. He is someone that is very much loves his country, and he's on the same pages us and he is very pro Trump, okay? Q and on first emerged in the months after President Trump took office, starting on Fringe Internet message boards before spreading to social media. Adherents allege, among other things, that the president is the target of so called deep state actors, high ranking officials plotting against him. The conspiracy quickly took off and the president's supporters latched onto the mysterious Q. Signs and T shirts appeared at Trump's campaign rallies. Last year. The FBI labeled the movement a potential domestic terror threat. I stand with President Trump I stand with you and the team. Thank you and thank you patriots. But now Cuban on has firmly taken root in the 2020 campaign trail. Honestly, everything that I've heard of you I hope that I hope that this Israel some congressional candidates like Lauren Bober in Colorado promoted the conspiracy theory too friendly media outlets before later calling Q and on fake news, according to media matters. A left leaning watchdog group 20 candidates, all Republicans, except one independent with varying levels of support for Cuban on conspiracies. Have advanced to November's general election on now, Marjorie Taylor Green's name will be on the ballot as well. To look more closely at the rise and spread of the Q and on conspiracy on the campaign trail. I'm joined by Travis View, Co host of the Q Anon Anonymous podcast, Travis. Welcome to the news Hour. You have been following the cue and on conspiracy theory and followers for a very long time. Let's start with the basics, though. For those who haven't been just explain to us where And how did the cue and on conspiracy begin. The cure Non conspiracy theory originated on fortune in October of 2017 though, has its origins in in that Pete instigate. The basic premise is that a group of high level military intelligence officials close to President Trump followers believe Are sending out secret coded messages on these image boards about this great grand battle of good versus evil, in which Trump and the what they called the King team are working to destroy a global cabal of Satan worshipping pedophiles, which the Cuban on community believes is controlling everything, and that includes Politicians, entertainment in the media. And what is the endgame? If you or someone who believes in this conspiracy theory? What do you believe will happen? As a result of all this? The Cunard community is awaiting two big events. One of them is called One of them is called the store. And this is supposed to be a great master. The rest event in which over 100,000 people from the highest levels of power and entertainment are arrested and face a great day of reckoning. The other event of that they're waiting for us called the Great Awakening. And this is basically invented. Wish everyone realizes that one is right the whole time, and that would allow us to enter into a great grands new utopian age. Travis. What you've just laid out seems so obviously irrational that a lot of reasonable people might just dismiss it. And yet it has picked up really speed in recent years, right? I mean, it was reported just recently that Facebook found thousands of groups and pages with millions of followers and members supporting Cuban on. So what has helped to fuel this idea so well? You know, is a really appealing story. You happen to feel really disenfranchised And you want to believe that the world is about to change in a really important revolutionary way is also appealing because it allows the Cuban followers to believe that they can take part in this great grand revolutionary change. They think that they're basically conducting an information war by going on social media and posting it all means and then spreading these conspiracy theories. Help usher in this raid awaken, And so it sounds ludicrous and it is. But this story has love appeals and people who might otherwise feel like they have no voice in the political system. Travis. The fact that President Trump has been retweeting some of these conspiracy theories that congressional candidates are now saying that they support these ideas and are then winning, likely ending up in Congress was all of that say to you about the potency of this particular conspiracy there, E. Well, there is some historical precedent for a conspiratorial movement, getting a gaining a significant share of power away. Back In 18 33 there was a party called the Anti Masonic Party, which was dedicated to the proposition that the free Masons were controlling the world. And they gained 10% of the House of Representatives. You know, there's always been an undercurrent of Ah, conspiracy, thinking and paranoia in American politics, and occasionally it can rise up and actually get some actual signature. Political power. So this is just something we're seeing again. You mentioned the pizza Gate Conspiracy fairy back in 2016. We should mention that has not really gone away a tamp down a little bit, but it's resurfaced again recently. What happens with the cue and on conspiracy theory. Do you see a point at which this goes away? No. Absolutely not. No. This is something that has started very small a couple years ago, and that it has only accelerated and gained in popularity engaged to Steve. So if you go by the trajectory, I mean, this is something that will almost certainly be with us for at least a generation and probably longer. That is Travis Few co host of the Q and on anonymous podcast. Thanks so much, Travis. Thank you for having me..

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"cunard community" Discussed on Apocalypse...Now?

Apocalypse...Now?

06:08 min | 1 year ago

"cunard community" Discussed on Apocalypse...Now?

"Tap. It probably has done something terrible. CNN The ideas like people in these sorts of high powered influential positions won't get arrested and they're all either. Have to face military tribunals, because what they did was so evil, and so traitress that the civil courts will be good for them, and then they will, then the rest of us will see all the evil things that they were doing behind the scenes and We will enter into a new great grandma's new beautiful Utopian Age now that we've rid ourselves of all these evil elites. Alien Technology to. have access to alien technology be cures for diseases, and they'll be no more debt, and we'll be rich and Yeah, we'll just have peace on earth with as long as as long as lady. Gaga still running free. We just can't have that. I don't know I. Don't agree with a world without lady Gaga. I mean that theory is just so. It comes from an idea of everything right now is completely spinning out of control for people and to be able to see that. Steven Spielberg happy ending I think is why they wouldn't want Steven. Spielberg to write their story, but. It's. Very dangerous to put all of your eggs into this basket. Do you think that the trump administration is taking advantage of conspiracy theories to try to get people? Maybe it'd be like the storm can't happen until reelected so i. mean I really feel like they are definitely are aware of the Cunanan community and they aren't against. Encouraging them, or at least they aren't willing to do anything that would discourage them. because the problem is at the end of the day. To enough followers, they are basically this highly passionate digital street team for the trump administration, and if you are someone like you know, the White House Social Media Manager Dansk Gavino. This is something that you would consider to be a plus if you want to keep your jaw into the into the next year, and so at Dansk, Gavino actually has posted a couple of things. That's the sort of like that looked like a wink to Cunard community. Welcome was a meam that that showed it was photoshop picture of trump playing the violin as my next. My next piece is called. Nothing can stop with his coming, and this is a common phrase. Q. Says Nothing can stop was coming. Followers immediately recognized as as an that came from the community. The one was Dansk view posted a gift. That's TIKTOK. It was orally. TIKTOK said this again over and over again in a circle, and this is something that also accused says the ideas like well. The clock is running out on the ball and only a matter of time before they're all gonna come down, so and also trump himself has tweeted or re tweeted Cunanan on accounts I think over one hundred Sixty Times is oh my God. So. He even said store. He's even like in his speeches, said something about the storm, hasn't he? Like baited them a little bit. At one time, basically, the the whole idea of the storm comes from a time in the early October two thousand seventeen before you when he was doing a photo op with a bunch of Personnel in the White House. The press there and I wasn't the trump trump and said you know what this represents. entrusted what was represent. Is it maybe represents the calm before the storm and the the press said was store Mr that you talk about, he said. You'll see and it was very weird. It was very cryptic now my interpretation of that that particular that was that he was sitting there with the press, having his Co. taken with these military personnel, and he was very resentful of them. He thought he'd fuck with them a little bit this. Theory as seems more reasonable seems very A. trollers kind of nature, but Kulen followers believe that he was actually alluding to a mass arrests event that was carried out by the kind of military personnel that he was surrounded with at the time. So this is where the idea of the storm came from from this. We're offhand comment that trump made one time, and that is the Internet culture in a sense. Is People pick up things that? They attach themselves to. And then they become viral intricate pieces of whatever Internet philosophy they have. I did see something. I don't know if this was true or if it was Tim Erica Tim from Tim and Eric tweeted that the K. W. Miller for Congress twitter account was not real. Yucky W Miller. Miller's one of the Cunard. Congressional candidates use a independent running in Florida and he is yeah. He's quite a character. He's he's. He's A. He has a very allows for Brash Persona. EAT does Cuban on sort of a hashtags. and. Tim, Tim, heidegger. He He actually wound up interviewing K. W, and of this really kind of funny combative interview. On his show. Really Yeah. That thing is that event in order in order to basically troll k.? Tim heidegger while up, saying that this isn't real. This character I mate. He did that specifically to irritate K. W. Miller which was pretty funny. That's how that went down. It's just a metaphor for the Times that we're living in now. The the Post Truth Era I think is what you guys. Call it in your description for your show. We don't really know what's up and down left and right anymore. Do you think that living during these times Israeli making more people susceptible to falling into the queue rabbit hole, absolutely I mean there's actually a ton of evidence that one of the major accelerates for Q. on to. To get more people button to buy into it with was the pandemic as a consequence of the pandemic You know this is what extremely scary destabilize event,.

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"cunard community" Discussed on Apocalypse...Now?

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"cunard community" Discussed on Apocalypse...Now?

"Yeah, LAW ENFORCEMENT SCRUTINY I! Imagine seems like a bad plan to have have. Have basically this This child trafficking selling scheme on open the van, so allen the open. That can access. will allow you to allow someone to accidentally purchase a that seems like something. You would not want to happen if you're genuinely doing it, but. The expiration from wayfair is that some of these these cabinets they are, they are. They're designed for home use. They are extremely heavy, extremely rigid, extremely protective dusty cabinets VAT designed to withstand a lot more than perhaps home candidates. You would have a lot more affordable as seems like reasonable explanation to me, but saw a lot of people especially on. Twitter and facebook and Tiktok were were instead believe that this was evidence of some sort of child trafficking ring and I was. Yeah, I've been spending a little bit of time today. Archiving these tiktok videos because tick occasionally deletes. Conspiracy theory videos. They did it before when Pizza Gate for example got got popular on Tiktok just a few weeks ago, so I will make to preserve that his ever in the future. And Pizza is I mean it's never gone away, but the idea that happening in the basement of a pizza place has been debunked, but pizza gate has kind of that. Hashtag has been a a name for something else. That is going on in society. pedophilia and the Pedal Gate I dunno I think using the term pizza gate is making it less credible because it's already been debunked is. Agree I. Mean this is made this one of my biggest problems with with the Cunard community is that they like whenever I pressed them on some of the claims that they make. They aren't factual like y'all do the evidence that the Comet Ping Pong Washington DC was ever involved in the sex trafficking ring, and sometimes it leads to dangerous situations case where South Carolina man actually traveled to Comic Ping Pong an attempt to rescue the children while the firing inside restaurant. Unfortunately, it's hurt, but someone might up because it's range, conspiracy theory, and like I said it distracts from like a the real genuine real life problems of you know of human trafficking which. Ought to be addressed. I feel like all of things like pizza and pedophile conspiracies. They tap into people's emotions, absolutely one hundred percent, and that's why people react so strongly to it, so my question is since people are adopting all of these philosophies. More people than there normally are exposed to it. Do you feel like it's dangerous for our country is? Are we reaching like an apocalyptic situation with all of these cues running for Congress? yeah, yeah, I think it's I think it's really. A one level is really. I mean in the sense that. I think that were really necessary for democracy. Is this idea of consensus? Reality is like even if you can't agree on sort of vague, perhaps the solutions. You have to like have this commute. Idea of was real and what the actual problems are, and of some people think that you know a serious problem is is is a particular up a pizza joint Washington DC, as as a human trafficking hub, and like other people see that believe that there's there's nothing to that. There's no there's no reality to us in this and doesn't represent an actual problem that deserves addressing like. How can you have common ground there as so I think it's you very dangerous, and that says social dangerous in the sense that you know. People who believe in Q. and all the fuel ballet you? They sometimes take very dangerous actions There's a recent. Case of a man named Alpa Sleiman. Who got fell down the? Rabbit hole and wound up leading police on the hundred mile, an hour arches with his five children, the car, and then live streaming himself on facebook, breathing with Cunanan and and trump to to save him. Now, this is this is this. This is ludicrous, so yeah, I think there is there is a danger, but at the same time I think that we we should also keep some perspective because it, throughout American, history they've always been times when when conspiracy theorist may they've gained a little bit more power than they usually as normally the sort of the sort of conspiratorial element of politics, really deeply conspiratorial element. Element sort of in the gutter political discourse, but once the while they they rise up and you really well. When when historical example is that? In the early nineteenth century, there was a party called the Anti Masonic Party and this was dedicated proposition that the freemasons running a shadow government that was controlling America in eighteen, thirty, two, this particular Anthony, solid part control ten percent of the House of Representatives. And was the first third party in history, so we are quite to that point where followers control ten percent of the house. This is you know something. There's other times there's the the know nothing party. The John Birch Society in the fifties, sixties, seventies of so this is something that comes in ebbs and flows, and we just might be a time right now. Where conspiratorial thinking is surging as popular union gaining some power. Now there's GonNa be a permanent save affairs, but I also feel like it a lot of people when they find things on the. Internet something that everyone needs to get into. A habit of is really double checking what you're finding. I A lot of people re tweet videos that are just audio, no video or videos that are extremely a muffled, and they see it as fact today. Re tweet threads from someone's random twitter as like a case of evidence, and I think we are still in the baby stages of the Internet, and maybe if we get to a place where we're more inclined to be informed into really research, the things that we're finding. Maybe we won't be as susceptible to a queue in on. I mean I would love I would love. Yeah, people were like. Yeah, we're like a little bit more. Discerning and the information that they get a little bit more skeptical, but it's not how people behave. People believe what they wanted to believe. I mean the Internet has it could enable someone to quickly research too quickly fact, check. Instead is sort of. Is Sort of a high-powered confirmation biased where they can serve speak-out in only recognize the information that validates them in just the filter out. Ignore all the information that's disconcerting to their beliefs and so. Yeah, I mean yeah, the Internet is very powerful, but is only effective depending on how you use it. Yeah, that's and that's what the Internet does best is. It puts US Center Echo Chambers, and just gives us what we want, which is dangerous, itself so the other reason why I wanted to talk about Hewitt on especially on this show is. One of the theories that they have is that they think that they are going to be as digital soldiers ushering in a new era. Lifting the veil on all of this, and it's called the the great storm. Would you tell us what the great storm supposed to be? Yes? Our the perfect time to do it. If you guys are listening to us like we're waiting. Yeah, right I. Mean Anytime I would love it if it happened. At least it would be a relief. I would be I'd be happily showed to be wrong, but. They say legally. It's like it's like if this would have. Oh, Shit, I guess. I was wrong CAJAL. Yeah, it's like it's like it's like the thing is I. It's like a lot of people accuse like for example like Tom. Hanks a being A. Child abuser with no evidence whatsoever. No I've I've watched a few few of movies by any particular attachment. Tomei, if you have any concrete evidence, you've done something nefarious our in love to see it so I know I just haven't seen anything, but Yeah, the yeah. The storm is basically this event that they believe that is a mass arrest of they accua followers believe that one day soon basically hop over a hundred thousand people from the highest levels of entertainment and politics in media will all get arrested swept up in the grand rate that will expose just how evil bail all are basically the like people like Your Lady Gaga then Congressman Adam Schiff and cal common after my Lady Gaga. Jake tap. It probably has done something terrible. 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