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Republican Congressman vs. David C. Smalley
"Let's jump straight in. Because i want to bring our guest in on the conversation immediately. He's a former congressman from virginia's fifth district he's now nc are is chief strategist and author of bigfoot. It's complicated which. I really hope we have time to get into and i really hope. He's still a republican. Let's find out join me in welcoming denver riggleman to the show. Thanks for joining me today. Sir thanks for having me sir. Oh well you heard that with us for the first time it just came out moments ago. What are your thoughts. So i'd like to state as we start here. The president trump reid tweeted a few months ago that the joe biden. Kill seal team six. I think god you're right. No you know. That's and that's what i was when i was listening to that speech after what i heard Down near the white house right before the siege on the capital. In fact that i've been in. Congress have been in the house. And i knew some of those people that spoke like madison call or mo brooks of talked to many times Don jr. meant obviously rudy giuliani I've met obviously and and what i really saw. Their david was absolute Language to incite really. It happened over the months and months and to hear that right now. My my first reaction is not really a politician but as an intelligence officer and something counter-terrorism like somebody's very afraid of the senate trial for impeachment. I thought the same thing Michael came in a few seconds in michael goes. Looks like a hostage video like he looks like he like. It's not really his words. He just feels the need to say these things he had to. I mean you know. The thing is is that his his term does end. I know that there are some people that are still listening to pastures and trucks talking about biblical prophecy that president trump is right now hidden a bunker and mike. Flynn is going to be the next vice president but by the way that's true. I just saw this video two days ago. One hundred eighty five thousand likes david on a facebook video from some dude in a truck saying that you know he's a pastor and had biblical prophecy and he just went through the whole cunanan thing and i just shaking my head about the ridiculousness out there. But he still wants to keep his brand to. He's got to make money. And how's he going to do that. And i think there's a lot of things you need to worry about. And that speech was the copa. That was so too late and show not anything that he said before that very hard to believe men. You're spot on. I mean. I i you know about damn time is the first reaction and then does he even believe the stuff he's saying is the second reaction So late you know so late to the party So that so that my listeners have a little bit background as to why this conversation between the two of us is so important You know you're you're only a former congressman because apparently you weren't conservative enough for your district right you. You lost to someone who was far more conservative and on top of that. I've seen you. I've seen pictures. Anyway of you officiating. Same sex wedding so you don't sound very republican the to us sir. What's going what's going on over there. Why are you so open minded and logical. You know when iran. You know. i've only been. I don't know people know this about me. I was i was a ceo. sell my company in two thousand twelve doing counterterrorism and counterintelligence work. Could you know not. Only that i can. I can go back in time. If i told you the crazy stuff. I've done like we mission plan. The first bombing runs death in afghanistan for nine eleven. that was our squadron. It was me Oman training omanis on. F16 sixteen operations in two thousand and ninety nine. I was on. The romanian serbian border for operation. Allied for trying to stop ethnic cleansing. I've had a hell of a life and that's just the beginning counter idea. Actually our team that was tracking sulejmani and two thousand six two thousand seven so when people saw my resume like this son of a gun never been in politics before when i ran as a republican i was asked to because the my predecessor had to resign because of alcoholism. Which is a little ironic. Since i'm going to stiller. I one on accident one by one. Vote against a christian. Dominion est They called me a baby killing sodomite But i thought if if practicality and i was a good guy team player like in my military days voted independently when i had to I thought i would see that. I care about people more than the career. Because i didn't need the paycheck and sadly after the same sex wedding david conspiracy theory started about me that i was working for soros to turn children into alternative lifestyles by funding schools. To teach that doug gay sex was okay. And that i really started saying cunanan was turning and blossom and this was back in twenty nineteen and since my background is in you tracking isis and al qaeda and disinformation and radicals. I said this also looks like that. We have almost the same type of thing here. We have people that are using language of dehumanisation and antisemitic. Tropes to go after people. And you know it's like a lot my book right. It's about bigfoot belief systems and take over people's lives so really been a hell of a time for me. I never thought that My family we get death threats You know i never you know. I never thought that. I can tell you this. Now that somebody would remove the lug nuts are in them all up on my right front tire at a rally where i came out and felt funny and took it to a shop and look like they tried to hurt me pretty bad so this has been one of my life has been like for the past two years david. And guess what athem you know. This is what they want to bring it. Bring it because i got fifty acres of distillery and i'm a second amendment guy and but i'm also a free thinker and pretty socially libertarian. So i don't know where. I fit bud
Tech companies role in the attempted coup
"As i see it we have three core problems related to what happened last week. They're all tech tech related so the first core problem dan mentioned we've got a relatively small group of people who are making decisions for all of us and that is true that that group of people is based on the valley. We also have a small group of people in washington. Dc making decisions that impact us and and that's the supreme court there's a tension inherent between the decisions that are being made in response to involving the evolving nature of our technology speech and society by technology companies and the static laws of the united states. Laws that are not intended to change. There's this tension between the two and resolving that tension. i think is is not just critical to get through. We are right now. But it's it's going to have to be the cornerstone of of how how law evolves over the next couple of years because if that doesn't happen the mechanisms by which we make a lot of decisions no longer makes sense. So part of what's happening right now is an indiscriminate use of terms of service The the the big long post that zuckerberg relayed the letter from twitter with. They are doing is trying to make legalistic arguments. Having to do with the terms of service and the problem is that there was a study from carnegie mellon a couple years ago showing that if we stopped to read all of the terms of service that that are presented to us it would take seventy workdays to eight hours a day. Fifteen at work weeks because the median lanes of privacy policies around twenty five hundred words. Now if you start you know and that's just so if you if you assume that you are reading the t. o. s. and you're thinking about what you were agreeing to write. You can even go further and show that you know in terms of work lost in exchange for us reading all of these terms of service. It's like hundreds of billions of dollars and my point is that tech companies are making up the interpretations of these terms of service as they go along which is in conflict with the laws that they are intended to respond to so indiscriminate application of terms of service to some extent is how we got to now and ultimately. That's what took some of these key figures off of the networks but in some way they don't matter because it's not just trump. Who is the problem here. It's algorithm determinism. It's the systems that are designed to pull content. Not just from him but now from all of these other places so trump may be gone in. Aws may have taken parlor off line but the problem is the infrastructure. Supporting all of this. And i will say one last thing and that has to do with world building because all of this reached a fever pitch and a past couple of days And again. I say this as somebody who's politically independent this the people surrounding donald trump has done a masterful job of world building They created something called antifa they created something called cunanan which may have been bubbling up here and there may have had little fits and spurts but certainly if created. They certainly fostered it. These this aunt have anti first of all. It makes me crazy that way that it's being pronounced as anti there is no long found in the word. Anti fa whatever. The point is short for anti fascist antifa aunt. Whatever it doesn't matter it's made up anyway. So here's here's why. It does matter. Because i was at the state department in twenty twelve through twenty sixteen as we're others talking about intentional misinformation and how this has significant next order outcomes and it would be good to read team some of this in advance to think these things through and it just didn't happen so we really have to think hard because it just taking some of these people offline and taking parlor and gabby you know out of the play store their amira sites already like somebody created a mirror site of a sub. Reddit that it gotten take down this. This doesn't it's virtually impossible to eliminate this stuff. That's right that's right so now we've three core problems that are unfortunately from my vantage point not going away and the compounding effect here is that we've got a transition of power It's cold in a lot of places where americans live and we have no holidays to look forward to Jewelries always sucks. So i mean but this tells us and we've got kobe. That's so so we have to really think through not just what happened last week in a vacuum but also how does the mechanisms that we have to deal with. Some of this no longer makes sense is the
'Bean Dad' John Roderick apologizes, says can opener story was 'poorly told'
"Which i speak from being dad we last left being dad the musician podcast john roderick. He had been hounded off the internet to do his tweet about making his eleven year. Old figure out how to open a can of beans by herself. Well not hounded bean. Dad admits he shamefully caved. He needed to face the music in an apology on his website. Being dad writes quote. Id activated my twitter. Yesterday in a panic he went on to say my story about my daughter and the can of beans was poorly told. I didn't share how much laughing we were doing how. We had a bowl of pistachios between us all day as we worked out the problem. We're that we both had a full breakfast together. A few hours before in other words he didn't levin it with some hand holding to tell people it's okay it might have seen serious. There might have been tension at the time in my conveyance and yes. Tension is a form of drama. But what. I really needed to do as a sure. The audience that a nine year old didn't have to go six hours between meals. He went on to add my friend. The story with me as the asshole dad. Because it's my comedic persona and my fans and friends know it's a bit. Well not just his friends or fans because of the screen shots. I saw just a snapshot in time but the tweets were getting a lot of love here. The first one said yesterday my daughter nine was hungry. And i was doing a jigsaw puzzle so i said over my shoulder. Make some baked beans. She said how like all kids do when they want you to do it. So i said open a can and put in the pot she brought me the cannon said open it how with a can opener is said incredulous. She brought me the can opener. And we both stared. I realized i'd never taught her to use it. Most cans now have pulled tops. I felt like a dope. What kind of apocalypse. Father doesn't teach kid how to use a manual. Can opener all right. Those are the first to post. I read and from the screenshot. I saw that second. One had ninety eight comments and one point seven thousand likes you know ratio getting ratio it online. It's it's when there are more comments than likes and supposedly this means that people are calling you out. You're getting your come up clearly. It wasn't the case with bean dad. His intended audience seem to like this story ratio. Really meeting was by the way cause some quotes questions a call for engagement. So they're going to get more comments. And some in groups will like others really horrendous tweets because looking at a lot of cunanan type tweets assailing a blameless georgia election worker. Hundreds of people like those. They were barely comment. That apartment so being dad was i rewarded for his story. As as i read it. I think he should have been there. Were delightful little grace notes quote. I told her stories about some of the great cans. I'd open to over the years. She rolled her eyes. We talked about industrial design. And what a funny little device. The opener is and the tone really gets no crueler than that. There are some tough love but also a lot of love love quote. I've been tempted many times along the way to guide her hand and wanted her to experience the magnificence of the can opener so much. I couldn't stand the suspense. Neither of us likes baked beans that much. The cupboards are bare so it seemed like a paltry reward for this work. It's a nice story. It uses twitter well. Bean dad was sale. And ken jennings got involved and the podcast. My brother and my brother and me dropped bean. Dad's music as their theme song. Right and so now being dad apologizes writing. I've conjured an abusive parent that many people recognized from real life. I am deeply sorry for having precipitated. More hurt in the world for having prolonged exacerbated by fighting back and being flippant wind confronted and for taking my twitter feed off line yesterday instead of facing the music which the parents i modeled didn't exist and which no one had to grow up with a parent who tortured them physically or emotionally would never intentionally make light of those experiences. And i'll never underestimate again. The pain i caused with some poorly chosen words and bhai acting defensively when challenged. Hey who am i to tell a person. You shouldn't be sorry for hurting someone else's feelings you should be sorry for hurting someone's feelings as a general rule and there was also some older content dredged up in the being dead deep dive some ironic racism that being dad should absolutely apologized for ironic. Anti-semitism that i say about i was put off though by the entire tone. Jose seemingly forced confession a public square rending of nature. To it in fact i hated that it needed to be done but i guess been dad. Thought it did. He wanted his career. Or at least it's twitter feedback. I object to the abject nature of it. But that's how he thinks he's going to get on with his life. I did think that this was an example where we have all heard ourselves by so demonizing the conditional apology. The if you were offended or to anyone. I may have offended. We treat that now is if so facto in sincere because often in the past that has been but now you can't even try it because it will without exception be interpreted as adding further insult to the original wrong and being dead knows. You can't do that so he didn't try to do that or else. It would have undermined all his efforts. But i say this is exactly the case where you might wish to say if my exaggerated character of the gruff dad reminded you of your actually hurtful father well to those in that camp i really am sorry about that and i think that would have been a sincere apology but it could have been a conditional apology which no longer exists. Those have been defined as non apologies. I don't wanna be overly dramatic about any of this in stating that. Huge parts of our society are now subject to the victims veto but it does seem more true than it ever has been before pendulum. Guess it needed to swing a bit. It swung quite a bit more than. I'm comfortable with than i think. Art should be comfortable with or even self expression. I mean these. Little wounded grievance sparrows huddled together alert to any sign of predators. They're not even fully birth. I think of them as hatchlings in a spotty incubator blinking on and off they must be attended to at all costs again. It is not the death knell of a once robust culture. We will survive. I can't say right now however we're thriving on
Social Media Fighting Misinformation
"Social networks. Facebook twitter Facebook and twitter particular stepping up and getting more aggressive about putting misinformation especially during the elections and talking about Actually actively labeling tweets from president trump from others who talked about potential election fraud. We've talked about facebook and twitter. Finally getting more proactive about stamping out. Content from cunanan other other areas there were plenty conspiracy theories around the killing of george floyd the Of their to be fair. I wanna give them credit but not too much. Because i know some of this. it's available. How effective give some of the labeling here is an and you know the fact that they took a step is big. But it's really just a little bit too little too late though right and look at what they have in. We're on the same page because this is actually mine number five as well all the the rush of misinformation a not not about just the election but against black lives matter Against the coronavirus vaccine all of this stuff. That's been running rampant on social networks. And you look at what all these social networks are doing. Let's talk about the election blocking political ads. Great but could you not have done that earlier. There dave labeled Trump's tweets labeled a bunch of other people's tweets rape. Could you not have done that later. And i it's not a i think misinformation i think people understand what misinformation i think it is. There's a line of social media. Companies have to figure out in terms of what it would consider free speech and whatnot This is like a chicken or the egg scenario Who knows what that actually is right. but i think they've done it certainly a big because it's people thought like misinformation totally the outcome of the of the election. And now you look a pandemic where people. I can't take this vaccine because it's actually going to help save lives. There's people spreading misinformation about that saying. Hey you know. Don't take it because you know whatever. Miss whatever things right could have a chip that lets the government track or whatever blah but of. Course you're using a phone. You're using facebook and other social like that. You don't think the government can already track you if that was the case. So i think that that's that's certainly one of my big stories Of the year
How is QAnon coping with Trumps loss?
"Just ling is a montreal. Based reporter who covers among many other things. How cute on is taking The results of the us election. Hello justin eight or thanks for having me. You're very welcome. Can you just start by Telling us at this moment A couple of weeks after the us election. What is the current Prevailing hyun on theory. It's hard to even say there's a prevailing theory. If you can dream up a totally meritless made up invented conspiracy. Chances are they've at some point. Tried to make it mainstream. Cunanan believes you know different elements within cunanan. Believe everything from the idea that donald trump himself has orchestrated this uncertainty as a way to draw out the deep state so that he can round them up and put them on trial and military tribunals for treason. that's one end of the spectrum. The other end is that this is the deep states. Last stand and that the international child trafficking ball probably led by hillary clinton and maybe the uk royal family have managed to buy off all of the media and all the establishment and all of the states and all of the vote counters and all the vote counting machine companies to orchestrate this plot to steal the election from donald trump. Ben have only narrowly gotten away with it. But you know by god. They're gonna turn the tide yet. I mean that's that's basically where we're at and it sounds fantastic but also what's terrifying is that elements of these conspiracy theories have become orthodoxy or on trump's twitter feed on the news outlets that he keeps promoting recently Whether it's fox. News what. American news Or newsmax a bunch of other right wing websites and it has even filtered its way into court filings that the trump campaign has filed in swing states in an effort to overturn the results of the election. It is bewildering and absolutely out to lunch. But it is having a real impact on the current conversation about this supposed fraud and in a minute. I'm going to ask you what that means for democracy in the bigger picture but of all those theories you just mentioned None of them seem to be well. trump lost so maybe q. Was wrong and maybe we should look at this more critically. That happening anywhere. Yeah i mean i. It's so hard to say right. So there are definitely posts in the queue world From followers who are saying. We've been let down one too many times. This is not the first chewing on prediction to not come true. I mean you for those who are still kind of behind the curve. on that i envy you You know who cunanan believes that there is a high ranking intelligence official who been posting information to message board eight chan under the pseudonym q. and has been revealing elements of a deep state plot against the president and the president's own crusade to beat that the state back now. A lot of those posts are incredibly cryptic but in in the few circumstances where q had made very direct and obvious predictions. They've not come true. There has had to be some incredible mental gymnastics in order for kyun on followers to conclude that in fact he was right all along. There's all sorts of some sort of numerology that goes into saying. Oh well in fact you know. It didn't happen on this day but later on. The one point two predicted that the national guard had been dispatched to cities across america as part of the mass arrest of democratic officials including hillary clinton well. Obviously that didn't happen but when years later the national guard was sent out. By the president to clamp down on the demonstrations across the country while queuing on sure found a way to reconcile that prediction with the the eventually use of the national
How conspiracy became our new religion
"Jesse hirsh is a researcher. A futurist he is the author of meta views which you can find it. Meadow views dot ca. He's our favorite person to talk to about social media. Hello jessie jordan. Jesse how did in your mind The major social networks do during the. Us election is the easy answer is not bad not good. I mean they were certainly caught between a rock and a hard place both when it comes to the pressure and expectations on the responsibility but the extent to which they were the battleground the whether it was for lies and misinformation or legitimately mobilize base. Get out the vote. I think more than any election previous social media was a real kind of fire. Pit of not just political organizing but political deception. And i think that's also why there is so much attention placed on these companies but also Equally so much expectations for them to be responsible and in that sense. You know it's kind of a size sort of a right in the middle of not great. Not bad could have been worse but they could have done a lot better as well. What do you look for. When you log onto Let's say facebook or twitter And try to figure out whether or not i guess to use your term. The battleground is is a fair place. I think it really depends both upon the subjective experience. And what i find interesting about your question is what you look for. I think everyone looks for different things on these platforms. I'm particularly interested in governance model which both gets into how you deal with controversial topics. I think twitter To a certain extent play the lead role in the way in which they added disclaimers or added information even to the president's tweets when it was misinformation but the other side to this of course has been cunanan and the extent to which conspiracy theory not only played a big role in the election but really was the driving force of a lot of social media activity both good and bad and this is where the social media platforms. I think we're the most interventionist or sort of tried to demonstrate the greatest amount of responsibility but even then i think critics are right to point out that it might have been too little too late. The damage that was done. Let's say on facebook or even youtube by people organizing around cunanan and spreading the related conspiracy theories you know all of that it was not just Having the potential dangerous impact on the election. But it's going to be the legacy. It's going to be the kind of conflict or a disunity. If you will coming after the election that's going to make a politics really messy really vitriolic. I play with this information. And i think part of the responsibility for all of that lies at the feet of the social media companies who kind of incubated and nurtured a lot of the conspiracy culture. We've talked about this before in terms of what are these platforms actually responsible for. And what is their duty. And what i'm interested in your opinion on is is where is the line or is there. A line between some of the disinformation that we saw from from politicians. As you pointed up going going all the way up to the president and the pretty obviously baseless cunanan conspiracy theory stuff because to me on the outside. It looks like that line is at best like really blurry it is and part of the problem is whether we think of social media as a utility whether we think of it as a publisher or whether we think of it as as a as a company that has its own stake in the election because part of the pressure facing these companies is bias if not the perception of bias. And where you know you and i as people who have journalistic tendencies or straight out journalistic commitments. You know we look at something like human on and it is a fairly straightforward case in terms of you. Know being a false and disinformation but conservatives especially conservatives in the united states have a different perspective that when these platforms start to label on posts or even removed hyun on from their platforms. Then it becomes a kind of conspiracy against conservatives or you know a political bias to these platforms that sorta skews their perception or skews their their trustworthiness and. I think that that's where that line is not only blurry. It's entirely subjective. That different people see that line. Being a appropriately or enforced in different places and in particular was twitter's handling of article in the new york. Post that you know. This was an article that claimed it had had had hacked information about hunter and joe biden's son and twitter banned the article from the platform at least tried to do so by preventing people from sharing it and while twitter's logic was that it contained personal information because it was from a hacker. Count that. That's why shouldn't be shared american conservatives perceived it as being an act of censorship but they thought that they were that twitter was supporting the biden campaign that they were against the republicans and so its that perception of bias. That really muddies where that line is and further. It's just a legal line in many cases. It's a moral line of sort of what is responsible in terms of these companies. Doing the right thing and so all of that combines to it being not just muddy but fraught with peril and that you're gonna upset somebody so it's almost as if you have to choose who you're going to be upset in trying to then look as if you're taking the more responsible or ethical line in managing
At least 20 arrested as pro- and anti-Trump protesters clash in Washington, DC
"After a day of tense but mostly peaceful demonstrations in washington dc yesterday supporters president trump and counter demonstrators clashed last night. Npr's hannah alum reports crowds of trump's supporters. Rallied under one slogan. Stop the steel. It's the baseless claim that the president's lost joe biden was the result of fraud. The event racially diverse conservatives. Along with french factions. Like cunanan conspiracy theorists white nationalist in the proud boys. The city had prepared for unrest. But the day was mostly peaceful. There were some minor skirmishes as police tried to keep the pro-trump marchers encounter protesters separated after the rally. Anti-fascist activists gathered around downtown hotels where the trump supporters were staying shouting matches turned into sporadic fights in one dc authorities say a young man was seriously injured in a stabbing and al-am npr news.
No, social media isn't biased against conservatives
"Yesterday the CEO's of Google facebook and twitter testify before the Senate and a hearing that was supposed to be about a fundamentally important Internet law called section two thirty. It's about liability protection for tech companies. Instead, the hearing ended up being about how much power big tech companies hold and how they wheeled it. Republicans accused social media platforms of Anti Conservative bias Democrats said, platforms aren't doing enough to curb the spread of disinformation. It went about like this Mr Gordon. Who the hell elected you and put you in charge of what the media are allowed to report and what the American people are allowed to hear issue is not that the company's before today are taking too many posts. Now issue is that the leaving too many dangerous post up. That was senators, Ted Cruz, and Ed. Markey and we now have none other than marketplace tax molly would here to talk about this and I asked her. Is it true that tech platforms have an anti conservative bias? There is no evidence to show that platforms have an anti conservative bias, and in fact, there is research as of this very week that says that facebook actually. Promotes right wing content to the point that it is its own sort of right wing echo chamber, and in fact, Kevin Roose at the new. York Times set up basically an automated system that every single day posts the top performing links on US facebook pages in the last twenty, four hours and every single day. The vast majority in fact are from right wing new sources. It does though stem from argument that I've heard not just from the right. But also from the left that these companies do wield a lot of power, they can take whatever they want down and that people want to know why you know when it happens that they should be more transparent with their their moderation policies and processes. How much common ground is there on that I mean, that is absolutely true. These companies should be more transparent about how their processes work and unfortunately because they have not been over and over and over it's basically open the door to the kind of frankly posturing and performance that you see every time these two use appear before Congress and it's only gotten worse I think that that would be. In some ways, a fairly easy fix. These are our rules they are enforced consistently and with regularity, and that would end a lot of these arguments but unfortunately, the platform so far have not done that now in the actual last days before a presidential election, they're kind of scrambling in front of all of us real time to figure out solutions and it's obviously not working. No one's happy with it. One of the other issues we heard about brought up mostly by Democrats was about disinformation specifically about how much responsibility tech platforms have to take it down. What did we learn once again, we didn't learn much from. All of the shouting but I think what we're learning is that increasingly this conversation which a lot of people believe is about section two thirty and this liability shield of the tech platforms have related to what their users post is not actually what this is about. It's about disinformation and so far we've seen proposals from the GOP to alter the way that section two thirty works that would arguably punish platforms for not allowing disinformation to spread. and. Then on the other side of the equation, you have certainly Democrats but also researchers, academics, journalists saying these companies have allowed disinformation to spread to a dangerous degree and they need to do more to stop it on both the advertising side and the content side. Here's the thing that is a little bit tricky to discuss a lot of the time when conservatives in Congress say that conservative content is being censored. The content that they're referring to is disinformation. They give you know frequently the example of the commentators diamond silk who have had their content taken down because it promoted misinformation around the corona virus as one example, and so we find ourselves in this tricky position where increasingly there are there people in the GOP who are embracing? Cunanan, in back just this week, Stephen Miller the White House political adviser reportedly told journalists that Abidin administration would enable widespread sex trafficking of children that is a Q. and non talking point is conspiracy theory that has spread on the Internet and so because we're in this moment where we're right before the election where disinformation has played a huge role in the two thousand sixteen election and in elections since it is really impossible to separate the politics. From the conversation around speech particularly when so many of these talking points are impact themselves misinformation or did. Researchers. Just re re released evidence that president trump himself is the single largest source of misinformation around covid nineteen in the coronavirus, and that makes us a tricky conversation to have because it feels partisan. But if you agree that truth is truth and certain things are true in certain things aren't then it is sort of a nation that has to be had.
Kraft Under Fire for Sexualizing Mac n Cheese
"When you think of macaroni and cheese what comes to mind comfort food and easy cheap meal for you your kids or your broke college student or something more risque. Wait if I confused you just now clearly, you miss the drama that happened earlier this month for kraft, Heinz the maker of the number one boxed Mac and cheese in America wound up embroiled in controversy over an ad campaign that most definitely attracted attention to celebrate National Noodle Day October six. In case you missed it on your calendar Somehow Kraft Heinz launched a playful campaign suggesting people send nudes that is noodles to friends and family. The double meaning of course was intentional sending nudes could mean sending nude photos in some of their ads, pictures of a box of Mac and cheese were deliberately out of focus as if the company was hiding something you know. And video featured former Saturday night live actor Vanessa Bayer. Trying to make the distinction between noodles and nudes. It's been pulled from crafts social channels, which I'll get to in a minute but take a listen clear not advocating you send nudes to anyone I'm talking about news not news I want there to be no confusion do not send nudes definitely send news even as it sent social media into a tizzy the campaign was a hit twenty thousand comfort loving tweeter took the brand up on its offer to mail free boxes of the cheesy stuff to loved ones. But unless you subscribe to the theory that all publicity is good publicity, the backlash created a craft crisis parents tore into the multibillion dollar brand on instagram. They said sexualizing macaroni was inappropriate for kids and accused craft of inciting children to send nude pictures. Many angry viewers threatened to ban kraft MAC and cheese from their pantries and turn instead to rivals like Annie's Mac and cheese owned by General Mills, some threatened to boycott. All craft products and some critics went even further according to buzzfeed Cunanan supporters got into the act. buzzfeed describes Cunanan as a collective delusion believers in what has also been called a right wing conspiracy theory subscribed to a number of different baseless notions including that something called the deep state promotes child sex trafficking buzzfeed reported that some Cunanan believers accused craft hines of using it's Mac and cheese nudes campaign for just this purpose. In the end, the company pulled its campaign in a statement brand officials stated, blandly, we sincerely appreciate and hear all of your feedback. As it happened, the news promotion was intended to end only a few days after it began anyway, whether craft considers its campaign, a win or a loss is hard to tell at the moment but consider this not only did craft managed to. Give away thousands of boxes of noodles but the controversy generated thousands of mentions on social media and in the press also keep in mind that making processed foods. Sexy is not a new idea for kraft. Heinz back in February of Twenty nineteen long before our world was upended, the company ran an actual ad on a porn site likening Mac and cheese attraction to addiction to. Well something else entirely that adds steely promoted devour a kraft Heinz frozen food line. That made headlines and sales. It's a big deal for consumer packaged foods players like Kraft Heinz Kellogg in Unilever Comfort food sales have fattened up during the pandemic now officials from Kraft Heinz, and Kellogg promised market very aggressively during the second half of this year to keep momentum up according to industry publication marketing dive given the ferocious rivalry between giant packaged food companies. There's really only one conclusion to draw about a brand that doesn't just go to the edge of tasteful nece but jumps right over it. Even today's cancel culture craft Heinz knows. Exactly. What it's doing.
Fyre Festival fraudster produces podcast from prison
"Google jumped up to number three Google podcasts. So we had said it won't point time. We thought the top three would eventually be apple podcast spotify Google happened a little sooner than I thought Google podcast is now the third biggest podcast APP. Lipton's Rob Walsh unveiling the company's download statistics in the feed. It is though still five times smaller than spotify the number two according to lips in which case sixty two percent of its downloads from the US total downloads to pocket casts dropped below one percent. spotify removed four Cunanan related podcasts after insider contacted the company cure on on as an unfounded conspiracy theory launched yesterday quake is a new subscription podcast company with tune a half million dollars in seed funding. It launches with six exclusive shows and will sell access for four dollars ninety nine a month. Loop media? Has. Speaker. That's S P K R. it's a podcast APP that plays short clips of podcasts to help you discover new ones. They've also announced their own podcast studio. PODCAST movement virtual kicked off yesterday with keynote from Edison research is Tom Webster. He unveiled a slide showing the podcasting share of all audio listening is now the highest ever six percent of all consumption. Fittingly, it was also world statistics day yesterday, second keynote session podcast movement virtual emerging podcast markets across the world panelists, Norman Chela from Malaysia. pod Lovers Asia. podcast pull the Rogo from Kenya who runs the pulse for NHS newsletter and neural net from Spain from the Boutique podcast publisher laycock Lara, music currently in the middle of several productions for Dino audible and others. Todd Cochran and wrote Greenlees news media show will be recorded later today at podcast movement virtual. Be joined by among others sounds profitable 's editor Brian bar letter and poured news is. ME. We've an ice page all about imbedded players for your podcast. All the contacted us with an interesting note if you use the embedded spotify plan, if the listener isn't locked into spotify, that play won't appear within spotify for podcasters just measures locked in users. No worries though for podcast hosts with pass through putsches, most of them, it'll still count they're. And podcast newsroom and the Billy McFarland's the convicted fraudster the fire festival he's been in the Elkton Federal Correctional Institution for the last twenty nine months. But with Jordan Harbinger, he's done a podcast from prison cold dumpster fire promising to set the record straight. The Joe Rogan experience is on pause until at least next week after Jamie Vernon show producer tested positive for covid nineteen nobody else's tested positive and Rogan himself hasn't been in the studio for the past nine days. Guardian Australia has launched in the wait a new podcast series telling the story of the forgotten refugees indefinitely stranded in Indonesia as a result of Australia's border crackdown and case closed has returned for season three focusing on an intriguing crime within the Hamish mish community. In Ohio, it's based on the book a killing in a mish country,
The Social Dilemma and Otherness
"Just to have a smaller maybe episode just me. Thinking out loud with you and this one is about I call it the social dilemma and otherness in I. Don't know if any of you watched the Netflix documentary called the social dilemma. I watched it not too long ago and it was disturbing at it was as it was intended to be I won't pretend to be a movie reviewer that's not my thing. But I. Thought it was very good and I thought it brought a ton of points about social media In clearer view for those of us who may have. been aware of this but not to the extent that it actually was true. But to put my reviewer had on though I thought that the acting out of the personalized a algorithms were Eliza. Bit of a stretch but it did break up the talking heads which might have been boring for people after a while although I personally like talking head documentaries. But. The point of this. episode is, is about the key theme of the documentary and it's the way our minds are manipulated by social media platforms and the manipulation, and how the manipulation was intentional by the big tech players or the company's the money behind the big tech. The twist though is that the intentional manipulation was aimed at our attention. To get us to buy things but the super efficiency of the algorithms designed to do that. Was Not anticipated. They didn't think it was going to be good as it was then the negative consequences on human thinking and behavior was also nad intended. So it was sort of like creating a Frankenstein and I think one of the one of the people who reviewed on that one of the tech players who were reviewed actually said it was like creating a Frankenstein. The buying in quote unquote into distorted ideas about the world ourselves and each other that have become nearly ubiquitous sense. The pandemic Allah the rise of Cunanan and stand startling panoply of conspiracy theory and times been great awakening groups that have grown to amazing proportions to the point of moving beyond their virtual groups and into the world to act out demonstrations, hate speech and even violence. Now, the documentary features the narratives of several Silicon Valley defectors talking to the camera. These young executives, designers and software engineers all left lucrative an influential positions for a variety of reasons around sort of this theme. One of 'EM's ethical concerns about addictive media others were political concerns over the polarization of society and the spread of fake news or just general misgivings of the sort expressed by Tristan Harris formerly designed ethicist at Google who said in the movie. Quote when you look around. When you look when you look around you, it feels like the world is going crazy. Is this normal or have we fallen under some spell unquote? After watching this documentary I continued to reflect about how it really does feel like the world is going crazy. I also listened to many podcasts discussing these phenomena the polarization, the the the rise in conspiracy theory thinking end times beliefs anti-semitism of. Great Awakenings you know all this stuff and how How to address it, how to classify what it is and how to fix
Trump and Biden offer starkly different views of the pandemic during dueling events
"American voters heard from President Trump and former vice president joe. Biden this week in separate town halls. This after a head to head debate was cancelled when the president refused to take part in a virtual event. Biden. On ABC from Philadelphia, the President in Miami on another network ABC's Mary Bruce covers it all the candidates not face to face, but still fighting from afar offering contradicting vision how to lead the country out of this pandemic. With masks. But I've heard many different stores masks I wanNA president doesn't wear a mask or makes fun of folks like me when I was wearing a mask for a long time then. People say well, it must be that important. President. Trump says he and the country are on the mend even with cases on the rise, we have done an amazing job and. It's rounding the corner and we have the vaccines coming and we have to therapies coming. But Joe Biden said the president failed the American people he said he didn't tell anybody because he was afraid Americans would panic is a presidential responsibility to lead and he didn't do that. He didn't talk about what needed to be done because he kept worrying in my view about the stock market the President on defense I knew it. Was a big threat at the same time. I don't WanNA panic this country I don't want to go out and say everybody's going to die the most shocking moment of the night trump refusing to denounce the fringe conspiracy group Cunanan, which baselessly believes Democrats are satanic pedophile ring that only trump can stop. I. Know Nothing about it I do know they are very much against pedophilia they fight it very hard but I, know nothing. You do now I don't know new I don't know on the Supreme Court the President who's running as a pro life conservative wouldn't say if he wants Roe versus Wade overturned, it would be inappropriate. Just say right now while Biden, still refused to give a straight answer on whether he supports expanding the Supreme Court but he's promising one soon saying voters have a right. To know even as eighteen million, Americans have already cast their ballot. No matter what answer I gave you if I say it, that's the headline tomorrow. It won't be about what's going on. Now the improper way they're proceeding voters have a right to know where they do have a right to know they're standing I'll have a right to know where I stand before they vote. So you'll come out with a clear position before election. Yes. Depending on how they handle this both candidates also addressing issues of racism and how they plan to bring the country together I'll say it loud and a very proud of it. And I have a great relationship because what I've done with the African American community. I'm very proud of it. The president who refused to disavow white supremacy at the first debate grew visibly frustrated when asked why he hesitated to do so. Each every time but people can I'm sure they'll ask you the white supremacy question I denounce white supremacy. Tell you one thing if I'm elected president, you will not hear me race baiting. Dividing you trying to unify cedric humphry pushing Biden on whether he's taking the black vote for granted besides you ain't black. What do you have to say to young black voters who see voting for you as further participation in a system that continually fails to protect them if young black women and men vote, you can determine the outcome of this election not a joke. You can do that and the next question is at my worthy of your vote can i? Earn your vote then detailing policy proposals to help black Americans gain wealth the president again sowing doubt without evidence about the election's legitimacy own. FBI. Director says there is no evidence of widespread that he's not doing a very good job biden saying win-or-lose he'll keep working towards a more perfect union Mr. Vice, president, if you lose what will that say to you about where America is today well could say I'm a lousy candidate and I didn't do a good job. But I think. I, hope. That Doesn't say that we are as. Racially ethnically, and religiously at odds with one another as it appears. The president wants us to be analysis from ABC News Chief White. House correspondent Jonathan.
Twitter will ban Holocaust denial posts, following Facebook
"If you're American, you probably think of free speech as the default. Just the way things are. And I. Don't know where it enters the stuff. I don't know if it's in the water or if it's in the kindergarten curriculum Evelyn. Is Not American, but it's only something that I have encountered faith in years is just like first amendment fundamentalism she's an Australian who lives in Massachusetts and she's one of most dynamic and nuanced thinkers. Online speech. She lectures at Harvard Law School. You came here to study kind of First Amendment Law to look at this stuff. As an outsider, what was your impression of the US fundamental adherence to free speech? I feel a little bit like gas lit as a foreigner when you come to America. As I did for years ago to Study Comparative Constitutional, Law, and free speech One of the most striking things about American free speech doctrine is this like this example of there were Nazis that wanted to march in skokie. I know jumping straight to Nazis his kind of leaping into the free speech depend. But Evelyn's describing one of the most famous first amendment cases when that really tests American values, the story goes like this. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, a group of neo-nazis wanted to march in the Chicago suburb of skokie Illinois largely because a lot of Holocaust survivors lived there seven thousand concentration camp survivors living in the predominantly Jewish Chicago suburb of skokie not surprisingly, there was a huge legal fight cokie officials a block Nazi demonstrations with court injunctions when the Nazis appealed to the State Supreme Court a judge has refused to hear the case. But what might surprise you if you don't know the story is that the American Civil Liberties Union indeed a lawyer with the ACLU defended the Nazis right to March under the First Amendment saying the right to free expression with integral to who we are as a country. It's just such an iconic story of the literal Nazis were going to be allowed to marching the street and as a foreigner you come here, new learn that and normally deland that it's it's not like these inconvenient embarrassment about Assessment Amendment Law. It's this like really proud one of the truly great victories for the First Amendment was that it will protect the speech that we hate because it is you know Betta to have it out in the urban it's better to meet it with county speech and we just can't trust the government to suppress as an Australian very striking. I don't even have a right to free speech. We don't have a bill of rights and our Constitution it's it's like a completely foreign idea this fight over unfettered free speech and in fact, where it collides with Anti Semitism and Holocaust denial broke into the news cycle again, this week, there's a split screen like the Supreme Court confirmation hearings going on on one side, and then on the other side facebook releases a blog post the company which has always said it values free expression above everything else announced that it would ban any content that denies or distorts the Holocaust. Two days later, twitter did the same thing. It might seem like banning Holocaust denial is a pretty easy call, but it was only a few years ago that facebook said, it wouldn't prohibit Holocaust to nihilism on its platform. which is part of why and says, this is a really big deal I. think this is like a really iconic moment in the history of the company and its thinking and its evolution around its rules. There is no more emblematic rule that facebook had about. To First Amendment Principles. Today on the show. Decision to finally habit Holocaust, Mus Information and what it means for free speech debates, the Internet and the potential for change. I'm Lizzie O'Leary and you're listening to what next TVD A show about technology power, how the future will be determined stay with us. Voting this year is a little. Than usual, what you don't want to do is be the one sprinting to the mailbox trying to send in a last minute vote or get to the front of the line at the polls only to realize you're not registered. 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Dot Com is the easiest way to keep everyone connected and on the right track try it out for yourself to get your free two week trial. Good Monday dot com today. I, WanNa talk about how seismic shift this is if we think back to just two years ago. Mark Zuckerberg gave a very now well known interview to Cara Swisher. And said, she didn't believe that posts that deny the Holocaust should be taken down. I believe that our platform should take down because I think that there are things different people get wrong. either. I don't think that they're intentionally getting a wrong but I think that they. They might be but go home. It's hard to pune intent. Boy. It is a big journey from. People get things wrong even though I might find it personally offensive. To. My own thinking has evolved. The big thing that they always have hung onto was we don't WanNa be arbiters of truth, and we will not take content down purely on the basis that it's false. We might take it on the down on the basis that its nudity or that it's hate speech or that it has other sort of effects but we weren't take content down just because it's wrong and that's sort of what's reflected in that quote from Makoto Takhar Swisher is you know some people get things wrong sometimes and the the pandemic literally changed that decision overnight in the context of a global public health emergency they abandoned that they said we will take down. False information about the pandemic because it poses a public health risk, and now we're playing ball like now companies are taking content down on the basis that it's false and we're now seeing it in other areas. We saw it in the context of the wildfires in West my country was on file for months. In December and January, and there were lots of false rumors about the cause of the fires and facebook didn't take anything down and then Oregon was on fire A. Couple of months ago, and suddenly they were taking down misinformation about the cause of their as far as think a stock contrast as you can draw. It's still interesting to hear you peg this to the pandemic because I think about all the data points that came before that this is. After the two thousand, sixteen election, it is after the Charlottesville unite the right rally, which took place in two thousand seventeen. Do you think the coronavirus pandemic is it sort of launching us into a new I guess area of thinking about content and speech on its own or or easy it kind of a I guess a catalyst for something that was going to happen anyway. Yeah. You're absolutely right that it's only sort of it's part of the broader trend. It was a particularly visible and sort of obvious example of the trend in the same way that the pandemic has made many sort of fundamental. Assumptions structures in society more visible, and we've sort of seen progressively moving more and more along that line of sort of okay. We copies all speech all the time. Let's balancing trysts and draw the line and I think that the pandemic was just sort of another step along that road. If you think about it that way these announcements from facebook and twitter about banning Holocaust denial or in line with other content moderation decisions we've seen this year like the outright ban on Cunanan content. But in other ways several and says the decision. Holocaust. Denial marks a deeper and more fundamental shift in how speeches police online Holocaust denial is one of these iconic things about the first amendment and I believe that one of the reasons why facebook sort of stuck to that principle for so long of allowing on services was because it's still considered itself a fundamentally American company attached to these first. Amendment ideals is robust marketplace of ideas. Which is bizarre when you think about it these these are clearly global companies now and most of they US bases outside all over America but there was still something that it couldn't let go of and so I think it's really when Audience First Amendment land anymore like vc's we are now in this unknown landscape of trying to work out what norms we can attach ourselves to.
"cunanan" Discussed on KGO 810
"The world we live in has changed in some ways. In some ways, it's the same if you were to look back. Why to know, 500 years when people believed that stars for little holes in the fabric of space and that was heaven had left the lights on, and they put people like Galileo in prison for the rest of his life because he dared turtle. Telescope to the stars and say, Hey, there little sons, However, we occasionally revisit that in our own reality, and one way we do it is to this group called Queuing on, which believes people like myself left leaning liberals. Are actually child molesters who want Teo well during our satanic rituals, drink the blood of babies. Now I know that's only part of Cunanan's appeal to many people, but I don't mean to laugh. But it is so insane. The fact that a kid showed up at a pizza place in northwest Washington atomic pizza with the long rifle ready to kill somebody because he heard there was Children being molested in the basement by Hillary Clinton. And the only reason he didn't kill anybody is the guy that ran the pizza place that we don't have a basement? That's where we're at right now. So the real question is is human on this have a different effect on popular culture here in United States? I mean, is it possible that one person in the family could believe it on DH, then alienate the rest of the family, in other words, like could've Protestant become in Islam? Ah and convert and I mean I'm seriously people do freak out on families and Cuban on is one of them. Joining us right now is pop culture reporter Travis Andrews for The Washington Post. Great piece. Scary the word Q First, where did Q and on come from before we get into this thing? Where did that letter and what does that all mean? Absolutely. So. It originated on a website called Fortune, which is sort of a message board for just trolls for the most part, and someone began posting under the letter Q. Claiming to be a high level government official. Tio refers to supposedly The person's security clearance some very high security clearance at the Department of Energy and say that's your security class of the letter, a letter would be pretty easy to figure out. I'll just try the other 25 till I get the cute anyway. So that the again isn't in not job did this. But anyway, so that's how it started. So somebody pretended to be like Ah high level informant. And what was the first propaganda they started spreading. No, I'm not sure the very first post was. But essentially, there was kind of a serious of them. Just kind of saying that the government Ah, you know that that he that this person was embedded and can still have secrets that you know, we all supposedly need to know. And the conspiracy theory is that Came out of this vast and and all over the place. One of the main ones that people really connected to cue is the idea that there is a quote unquote deep state that it out, Tio, you know, get President Trump and that President Trump is going Teo at some point. I declare martial law and arrests Democrats and pop stars and left leading people like yourself for your crimes against Children. On DH. The president has actually said at one point when asked about Q and A and he said, I don't really know anything about him. But I heard they like me something along those lines. That I believe that's almost the exact quote. Yeah, he was asked by a reporter about Cuban on, He said he doesn't know much about them. But he heard he was They like him and he likes people who like him. Interesting and me. We are not every country allows this kind of behavior and these kind of conspiracies and Germany. It's against the law to say that the Holocaust didn't happen on DH. That's of course, another story. That's in the news today where Facebook says they're going to stop allowing people finally The post stories along those lines is saying that the Holocaust was made up or, you know, I mean, I know Q and non probably ties her name to everything. And that's that's another one of once I saw so the story you wrote today. Is kind of sad. It's about when you know somebody in one family buys into this for whatever amount of mental illness or weakness they have and what it does to everybody else That's around them that cares for them. Yes, I spoke to an awful lot of people. I had more than 100. People reach out. I kind of put a call out for anyone who was affected by one of the family or a friend. Close Friendship group. Believed in Cuban on him and what happened what that led to how that hurt people's relationships. I spoke to Children who are no longer speaking to their parents. I spoke Tio, who have gotten divorced over it. People who are in court, battling over custody of Children share Children because one person believes in Cuban on it's kind of telling the child all these things in the other person doesn't And my takeaway after hearing from all these people is that you know this is something that to a lot of people sound so ridiculous and so easy to mock, particularly online, but The actual human toll is actually staggering, and people are The headline of the piece was to an honest tearing families apart, and I think that kind of sums it up. So did you talk to any of the queue people or just all the people on the other side? All the people in other side tried speaking to sink you people, one of the issue that I run into anything. A lot of reporters run into is according to some of the conspiracy is that people who believe in you would not believe I am part of the problem. I'm I'm one of the bad people who I was going to bring that up. I was going to bring that out. It's tricky. So whatever I've reached out to someone, some Q. Nonbelievers were very polite. So we're a little less plate. But I was all I was told across board, essentially Tio Tio, I could, you know, see my way out and then maybe make sure the door doesn't hit me on the way. And, you know, it seems that I've actually interviewed a couple people that if they weren't put me on We're members, you know, Released him again. The cue and non doesn't really exist in the way that, you know. Ah, exist like they're no meetings and people, right? I mean, you were there. I mean, were there meetings before Cambridge Analytica and stuff like that, Or is this okay? I think I think Vice President Biden put it really well when he said it, it's more of an idea than a movement..
Facebook expands its ban of QAnon on its platforms
"This week facebook announced it was taking down any pages or groups tied to the far right conspiracy theory queueing on previously, the company had only removed content that encouraged violence. The outright ban is a big deal because generally facebook has resisted policing any content on its platforms. So will it work to slow the spread of baseless theories about a satanic cult of pedophile is running the world? Travis view is the host of the Cunanan anonymous podcast and has been reporting on the group. Has Inconsistent track record when it comes to enforcing their policies. But this appears to be pretty devastating to the Cunard community on facebook will probably limit their ability to organize and recruit new new people into the movement. Are. There loopholes that they might try to exploit well, yes. As a matter of fact, they may, for example, try to rebrand as simply anti human trafficking groups or try the use misspellings where they spell q c u e instead of Q facebook says that they're aware of how Cunanan messaging changes very rapidly they're going to try to react to that but that will see how well they do in the coming months. I. Think a lot of people are really stunned by the spread of these Really Bananas Theories that this group is spreading how do you think tech has enabled it and what can they we regulators due to to try to to stop it now one thing that social be couples could do with be stopped deciding that the metric of success is purely quantitative in terms of interactions and engagement and likes because this simply pushes people who are radicalized into these these rabbit holes in which they get even more radicalized. So they need to take more seriously the qualitative impacts at their algorithms and their platforms are having on people. And do you see this as a big step in that direction? Do you see facebook actually trying to root out even the ways Cunanan groups may try to get around its new ban. He'll I can't say I have a whole lot of confidence in facebook's ability to enforce policies consistently based on the track record. But when you look at the the amount of pages that were recently banned as a consequence of this new policy is seems to be quite substantial. So I'm hoping for the best do you think the platforms? Sort of legitimize them in a way. Tech
What is QAnon and why does it matter?
"Conspiracy Theory in American politics is nothing new paranoia about plots to destroy the Republican deceive its citizens have been a constant refrain of American history. The. Cunanan conspiracy theory is something new however, a sprawling belief system which has grown immensely popular in just these last few years despite or perhaps because of a complete lack of evidence that any of it is true. In normal times, it would be possible and certainly preferable to dismiss the adherence of Cunanan. But these are not you'll have noticed normal times by force of numbers and volume if not of documentation and logic and on matters, it is beyond doubt that many millions of people and not only in the United States now subscribe to at least some of its precepts and these believers are being indulged and encouraged whether through conviction or expedients by the occupant of Earth's most powerful office President Donald Trump never fossey about who's applause he accepts has been happy to amplify the Cunanan message.
A Trump-Backed, QAnon-Supporting Congressional Candidate Posts Photo of Herself Holding Gun Next To the "Squad"
"Says it has removed a photo illustration showing a controversial Georgia. Republican, holding a rifle as she stands next to three Democratic House members known as the squad. From member station W. A.. B. E. IN ATLANTA. Alex Helmick reports on one side of the illustration. Marjorie Taylor Green is holding a gun on the other side are images of Congress members Rashid it to leave Alexandria, Cosio Cortez and Ilhan Omar with tax sang, Christians need to go on the offensive against Socialists facebook says the post violated the platforms policy against inciting violence green denies that green is candidate for Georgia's Fourteenth district congressional seat and support. Cunanan baseless right wing conspiracy theory that Satan is pedophile WanNa. Throw president trump. She's also made Islamophobic antisemitic remarks and she's favored to win the very red district northwest of Atlanta after her primary win trump called her a future gop star. For NPR News, I'm Alex Helmick in Atlanta
Armed and Dangerous: America's New Law and Order
"Number has the phrase law and order is invoked by a president come to mean. So clearly, it's opposite illegality and disorder starting with the first illegality like. Twice on Wednesday Donald Trump encouraged his north Carolina followers to cast two ballots one by mail and one in person it in early and then go and vote. At of it's not tabulated you vote and the vote is GonNa Count You can't let them take you vote away. These people are playing dirty politics. In some states you can ask for your mail in ballot to be invalidated but intentionally voting twice is fraud nfl any in most states, the president defended seventeen year old kyle written house who traveled with an assault rifle from his Illinois home to Kenosha. Wisconsin to enforce law and order, and now stands charged with six criminal counts including first degree, intentional homicide, first degree, reckless homicide, recklessly endangering safety and possession of a dangerous weapon is a minor. He shot to protesters to death and wounded a third but to trump, he is the victim he was trying to get away from them. I guess looks like any fell and then they very violently attacked him. And it was something that we're looking at right now and it's under investigation but I guess he was in very big trouble he would have been. He probably would have been killed this but one week after his Republican convention showcased accused felons mark and Patty mccloskey who brandished guns at peaceful protesters in front of their saint, Louis home and who are now official. GOP. Spoke gunman for the false narrative of White America under siege, they're not satisfied with. Spreading chaos and violence into our communities they want to abolish the suburbs altogether by ending single family homes zoning this forced rezoning would bring crime lawlessness and low quality apartments and now thriving suburban neighborhoods lie after lie after lie from the husband and wife rich lawyer militia from the trump campaign and from the Hague factory of Fox News when the writers come for your town. And they're coming. We'll biden and his team enough to stop them. And the answer is clearly no these are people are now crossing state lines clearly, and this is being organized using the Internet they will burn down your cities and tell you you did it. And if you don't accept that judgment, maybe they'll send them to your house the same race baiting law and order rhetoric whistled by Richard Nixon and Ronald. Reagan now literally weaponized. Let's just put aside lethal pandemic denial in paranoid Cunanan fantasies at least for a second and considered trump's warnings of the quote dark shadows and deep state moles controlling Joe. Biden. Those thugs clad in black on airplanes bound to destroy us. There are people that are on the streets. There are people that are controlling the streets. We had somebody getting plane from a certain city this weekend, an end, the plane it was almost completely loaded with with thugs wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear and this and that their. Plan whereas the. I'll tell you sometimes, but it's under investigation. They have scary year even have menacing lunch people coming over with bags of so big bags of and they laid on the ground the anarchist's take that they start throwing it at our cops that our police. and. If it hits you, that's worse than a breakfast. It's got force soup assaults on police. He says every one of whom deserve unwavering support even after the use of deadly force against so many black men and women in this greatest of nations excluding, of course, the anarchic tarts defend their actions against fake news. He says so quick to smear cops for letting their nerves get the best of luck they choke just like in a golf tournament they miss a three foot comparing it to golf because he of course, that's what I'm saying people. Chip I. DO think that there appears to be a phenomenon in the country where African Americans feel that they're treated when they're stopped by police week widely. As suspects before they're treated as citizens. I don't think that that necessarily reflect some. Deep, seated Racism in in police departments or in most police officers meanwhile, Bill Bar, the nation's keep law enforcer shrugs at the notion that all too frequent lethal force against black people signifies systemic racism. He also mischaracterizes details of Jacob Blake's arrest on sexual assault charges caught on video that left him with seven bullets in the back courtesy of Canossa policemen from the Jacob case, he was in the midst of committing a felony and he was armed. No though police later reported finding a knife in the car, Blake was surrounded by police walking slowly and unarmed when he was shot. which is where black lives matters comes from, which is why there are protests nationwide, which is why trump is trying to portray. Peaceful dissent as
What is QAnon? What We Know About the Conspiracy Theory
"The rise of a far-reaching far right conspiracy theory once finding a haven online and now expanding its footprint into the real world. Here's nightline co anchor giudice. Boston Massachusetts a rally protesting a flu vaccine mandate. But blending into the crowd something else a Q. Symbol. Here, it is again in Minnesota? Greeting the president at the airport on his way to a campaign stop. And here at a lives matter rally in Brooklyn. What's everybody? Particularly, you as you as. A wild conspiracy based movement known as Cunanan. They first appeared in the public eye at rallies two, thousand, eighteen tomorrow headlines. Massive protests. Their profile slowly growing over the last two years culminating with this moment in the White House two weeks ago. The president being asked directly inside the briefing room. Thank you very much about those Cunanan on supporters. Of the theory, it is this belief that you are secretly saving the world from this site. Cold. Pedophile and cannibals does that sound like something you are behind? I haven't heard that but. Is that supposed to be a bad thing or good thing. If if I can help save the world from problems willing to do. The letter q may be one of the least US letters in the English language but for followers of Cunanan or q anonymous theory, it's a doorway into something called the deep state. A baseless idea that claims a secret powerful network is working to promote its own hidden evil agenda and the Donald Trump is doing all he can to stop. The movement. Now leaping from Echo, chambers of social media to headlines in the news it's called q a Non a fringe conspiracy theory tweet of an article by Cunanan conspiracy theorist Cunanan's grown so fast. And it's caught fire with followers all over the nation. Inspiring a few to take dangerous actions. Uploaded on social media leading them to be charged with major crimes. It's even attracting would be politicians. Q.. Is a patriot. He is someone that is very much loves his country Marjorie Taylor Green of Georgia won her primary last month all but assuring her seat in. Congress receiving a congratulatory tweet from the president himself. Nineteen Republicans running for office express some sort of support for the Q. Theory according to the media watchdog group media matters the broad narrative Cuban on the world's controlled by. The ball of Satan worshipping files, and this could ball they control everything. This includes the media and entertainment and politicians they'll start. Travis few has been tracking the group since its inception hosts, his own podcast called the Cunanan anonymous podcast. There's nothing wrong with believing Chrissy things necessarily crazy conspiracy theories about bigfoot area fifty, one problem is that these these these people they're being radicalized in the sense that it becomes a major part of their life followers believe that q is an actual figure or figures within the US government holding Q. Level Security Clearance Q. is a real clearance level within the Energy Department. But from there, the story leaps into dark and outlandish places. For example, they say that q communicates with them by posting cryptic ciphers online because he has access to all the deepest darkest secrets in the US and wants to expose them. This includes wild fake theories of prominent politicians running a child sex trafficking ring or the JFK junior was assassinated by Clinton these far out claims run the gamut. But Jared Holt from right wing watch an organization that monitors wing extremism says, these claims have now begun impacting reality. What the Cunanan on movement does is they take that grain of truth, warp it and twist it into their existing worldview narratives. It's a movement that has inspired some of its followers to commit really egregious criminal actions. So trump's statements about on speaking favorably of them I fear as having watched this for so long is incredibly dangerous. Cunanan's debunked theories have gained so much traction that social media platforms like facebook and twitter have been forced to. Take Action removing thousands of Cunanan related accounts off their platforms though a recent analysis by the site intelligence group of monitor for online extremists alleges some are trying to reform pages under codenames
"cunanan" Discussed on The Conspiracy Farm
"But what are your thoughts on this cue and non Cunanan, supposedly, you know, this this narrative that Trump's actually this is forty chested? He's really got everybody where he wants them at cetera et cetera. What what validity do you give to to Cunanan? Yes. So I actually knew the guys are acetate group of guys that started queuing on a back when it was on four Chan, and you know, the kinda came up with the idea for it and so forth to and on with something that came along in the line of like fourteen and you have these posters called F B I N on CIA on. And you'd never kind of knew whether it was real or not, right? Well, the guys that came up with KUA non said that you know, there was just a couple of guys re posted on on four Chan regularly. And they said they wanted to come up with something that people could really rally around and use it as a way to share information or to package, you know, different narrow narratives in a different way to kind of catch a bigger audience. And so they they started posting as q in on. And then you know, what can I say the thing really took off? And they kind of backed out the people that I knew who are running kind of backed out early on one of them is up on Twitter now is names dream catcher. Hugh, and he's done a lot of interviews recently. But then moved over to another message board called eight change. And yeah, we're another group of people kind of kind of took over it. I really really caught on there seeing that that's kind of people's knock on like I started believing in people saying they were with the fortune. And then somehow that got the people say like co-opted or taken down and then eight Chan came in and it wasn't exactly the same. So it's like that's kind of people's gripe. It's like, well, I don't know the veracity of this. Let's you know, this queue because it was this group different peop- different groups of people posting as you know, Cunanan. So this notion that Cunanan was like some Q security level clearances dot accurate. I don't even know if that exists Q level active accent, or you know, what I mean. So Q security clearance is a department of energy security clearance, which which gives you a special access or sensitive access to nuclear infrastructure. You know, nuclear transporting. Yeah. Transformed all that kind of stuff. So the right in the name, right. The q clearance wouldn't grant you any access to the stuff that you and on talking about. So this notion that he's Trump's this is a deep sting with him in Muller, and he's going to uncover the child-sex rings in these deep underground shadow economies in trading and drugs and people in body parts, and all these, you know, do believe that this is some big white hat move by Trumpers. He, you know. Is he in deep with, you know, the deep state not in deep together. But like he's he doesn't died at writer stone. I mean, obviously, this has nothing to do the conclusion collusion, but they keep squeezing him to make people talk process though. Which is right, right. Has driving me insane. Right. Right. But this notion of Q and Trump colluding, and they you know, this is a sting against the deep state with Miller. Do you give any credence to that? I I don't really because I've I've just never seen put it put it this way. You know, even though the fact that I knew the guys started originally put that aside because they told me as they were doing it wasn't more with those guys or were they legitimately trying to you know, because people are saying everything he said it's been corrected look at he's predicted this, and that was it was at a larger where they really trying to to spend some information. I mean, they didn't have any special access or or anything or any, you know, actual times evening, right? Other than having..
"cunanan" Discussed on KTOK
"Cunanan broke out last last summer. Now here we are in twenty nine thousand we're in the post Q era, a lot of people following a lot of people that waking up to the fact that it most certainly his some form of artificial intelligence, or at least a bought it has been set free by some organization. We don't know who. But it certainly gives you the illusion that you're you're on the inside with Q intelligence, triple eight six seven three thirty seven hundred that's triple eight six seven three thirty seven hundred. I'm CLYDE Lewis. You're listening to ground zero. And we'll be back. Our military service members volunteer to protect us in the most dangerous places around the world day step up, and when they are severely ill or injured returning to their families is only the beginning of their long road home wounded warrior project provides these brave men and women whatever they need to continue their fight for independence at no cost for life. So now, it's time for a grateful nation to step. Join us at find WW dot org. Welcome back to sports view. Today's topic who deserves to win big the season my two cents. Good drivers. I mean, that's why they're snapshot from progressive. Let's go to Rick for some confusing. Metaphors? Look if you put a classically trained cellist, then a garage band, you tell him to play for Laming young. I guarantee you the meat on nap burrito ain't gonna like the candle. Thanks for clarifying, Rick..
"cunanan" Discussed on 10 10 WINS
"Time at twelve. Thirty four Benjamin Netanyahu is promising to make a dramatic announcement later today, so far political reporters in Israel haven't been able to confirm what it's about. But speculation is it'll be related to the corruption cases against the Israeli Prime Minister police have recommended that Netanyahu be indicted in a series of investigations he has denied any wrongdoing. Muhammad Cunanan has left an airport hotel in Bangkok and is being temporarily allowed to stay in Thailand. The eighteen year old says she fled Saudi Arabia to escape abuse by her family when she landed in Thailand, she was met by a group of Saudi officials. She then appealed to the government, which took her to the hotel there. She barricaded herself in her room posted a video. See you. Learned to asylum. Kunin is now under the protection of the United Nations refugee agency, which was expected to take at least five to seven days to evaluate her case and claims for asylum status, the Saudi government, meantime is calling for the team to be sent to Kuwait where she also has family serious Kurds want to know what the deal is after national security adviser John Bolton contradicted. President Trump over the weekend about US plans to withdraw forces from Syria speaking in Jerusalem, while on a four day trip to Israel and Turkey Bolton said the United States pullout would only come under certain conditions. Correspondent Terry Moran with detailed conditions that national security adviser John Bolton has put on our one that ISIS is finally and completely defeated. The presence. Was it hasn't been in Syria. Second that our Kurdish allies who've been fighting alongside American troops are protected and finally that as long as there are Ronnie and boots on the ground in Syria. There will be American boots on the ground there. That was something Israel was. Very very concerned about the signals much different timetable than the immediate withdrawal the presidential called four and a tweet last month that prompted the resignation of vote Defense Secretary James Mattis and Brett mcgurk the top US envelope in the fight against ISIS. The twenty nine thousand nine Consumer Electronics Show kicks off this week in Vegas. Jim Wilcox's senior electronics editor for consumer reports. He says cell technology will be a big thing to watch for. This is really the next innovation in wireless technology, and it's going to affect everything from smartphones to self driving autonomous cars. So it has implications in a lot of different areas. It's not just another cell network. Well, a big topic. At CAS is expected to be the trade war with China, and how many companies may shift production to other Asian countries because of twenty eight degrees, fair skies the humidity. Thirty nine percent, the Windsor north at nine miles an hour twenty eight going up to thirty two in midtown wins. News time at twelve thirty. What does building a better Bank? Look like, it starts with building Capital, One cafes warm.
"cunanan" Discussed on The Daily Zeitgeist
"Serving and protecting firefighters, which are just like fighter like me. Yeah. But there was a there were firefighters. They were all like civilians because first of all like if you seen away a fire there there, you have to be very physically capable and these people were like just sort of regular people wearing like, firefighter, jackets and jeans underneath like dealer enough. Just because you're sitting on a fire engine come on don't they said, they said they were they said it and Trumpy bear bears there. I trust Trumpy bear game. There you go. I mean, I love. Hype? Obviously, you're listening to this your Suming. It is like somebody doing this, ironically. But the ad has actually been targeted at the types of shows that you would expect to actual Trump followers are Trump fans to watch. Right. It's like you're Walker Texas ranger your. Yeah. Murder. She wrote or FOX's news by literally reruns of bonanza, it was running. Yeah. So it does they're put they're running it where racist old people would be directing their eyeballs. Right. So like buying it for themselves. Right. Like, their grandchildren. Will it's a way to trigger the libs, AVI. But love triggers all the other shows it was running on like. There are other who's also running on other shows including man hunt killer capture project Nazi the blueprints of evil another show just called Hitler and how the world ends. Yeah. So they learn it has an exclamation point. And it's a fun game show. Reality is. So mean and funny. Yeah. Doing doing it on purpose. But that's why I'm like who the fuck is behind this. Yeah. So it is a company first of all by the way. Again. I just want to emphasize that they're charging two installments of nineteen ninety five for this, which if you need to fi- this thing in installments, you shouldn't be spending your money on novelty, plush toys, but also like that's too much money for a novelty. Plus. Yeah. Installments of this smaller number right to smaller numbers too much money. And there's also the fact that the commercial starts out by basically quoting Cunanan saying a storm is coming right. I am the storm which is weird because the ad came out before the Cuban on conspiracy surface. So this could make you lend confirms the Cunanan Israel, or it could confirm that Cunanan is actually like a liberal troll. And this is. Okay. All right. I like that one to Q is is. Yeah. Or Q in on is Trumpy, Barron. Trump bears q. There's no way to be amazing. The review for it is I- Trumpy bear. It's just so weird toys like banks. But the fact that the ad opens with that quote. A storm is coming. I am the storm. Yeah. That is odd. It's very weird weird. Like everybody jumped on that quote to his like, Donald Trump says whatever pops into his mushy, little brain. And like it's meaningless all the time. And like the closest you could come from his like like the come before the storm. The only interpretation of that that isn't just like he said it because he thinks it sounds cool. Is we're going to do a war soon. War is coming because we're all like these are all in the military when their families. Yeah. Tell your wife you're going to like one of those like calm photo off before I announce the war, right? Yeah. That's where this quotas from Trump talking while posing for pictures with military people and presumably just like bullshitting because he didn't have anything to set this really works with my kids when I'm like, oh, what got you for your birthday. Yeah. You'll see this is gonna be great. It's a real. Just consider this Christmas the calm before the storm next Christmas when I really get you something when I remember, it's your birthday. So the company that is making this is called exceptional products. Their Dallas company that owns the trademark from an invention submitted by via Lang and exceptional product sell other fine wares such as a fine products on both Plack attack dental spray for pets, and of course, hair Dini exclamation point. And on their websites list of commercials. They still have a commercial for dial mate. Which is they had held computer that stores phone numbers for you. So you can call your friends from a payphone. Yep. Yeah. So this is all accident. Will it turns out? I don't God. But why why can't why can't some genius troll?.
"cunanan" Discussed on The Nicole Sandler Show
"Challenge because all of the late night TV shows on the late night. Talk shows are on vacation this week. I bet they're kicking themselves for all being gone. You know, while this is happening. But and somebody even made a mention on YouTube yesterday is Sam beyond vacation. I think she is. I mean, she did have a new show last night, but it was like a clip show. It was. It was a lot of stuff from former shows. So I think I think everybody, it's it's the dog days of August. You know, people go on vacation. This is when they say, even that people with psychiatric problems. Hello have hard time in August because even the therapist go in August. Go figure anyway, I did pull a clip from. From last week? No, there is a new full-frontal, but the the way it's set up is is a lot of clips from old shows. So I think she, I think they're on vacation this week to, but but there is a show on last night. But as I mentioned, the other day, one of the best shows funniest shows on TV is the Jim Jeffrey show. It's on, I believe, Tuesday nights on comedy central. And this past sues Tuesday night. Jim Jefferies got together a group of people who are believers in the whole q. anon- thing. I don't even know what to call it conspiracy, right? So he got four people together as three men and women to explain what q on q and on is all about. So I thought I'd share that with you to get things going today. Take it away. Jim Jefferies Trump put. He's nine on the political map with the conspiracy theory. Why does he show his birth certificate? And it's not the only he's gone to that. Well, I say they found the pillow on his face, which is pretty unusual place to find a pillow. Beautiful child went to have the vaccine. Now is autistic recently. Many of Trump's supporters of buying into something even begun those Trump supporters. You see waving around the letter q r followers of q what Cunanan is a movement in which many baseless conspiracy theories the disgust on the internet. So I'd I've Dave into the rabbit hole the token four. Queuing on race edge. It's including one who has one hundred forty thousand YouTube subscribers and millions of us what is killing Kyun on his basically a shadow civil war between rogue intelligence agencies and good guys for lack of a better term. We all agree on this, this, this Cunanan one hundred percent. One hundred one hundred percent. Here's a guy. It's on the internet, not a guy, not a guy to group the people that have the full scope of the pictures, less than ten. We shouldn't be caught up on who is q.. It's more of what is it. He says that because what's about to be revealed is that cunanan's actually JFK junior. JFK juniors and he brought the plan to Donald pre nineteen. Ninety nine q more powerful and Trump Trump is a part of the team. So he's, he's, he's actually posted at least once or twice a at least twice. He's signed it. Well, we do know that because he's when he when it signed as four and twenty, that's Donald Trump. But you gotta understand numerology to know that there was a tweet. Everything in the tweet is just regular is regular grammar, but he has the word roaring the word, gray, and word reviews. All and cats look at the morality behind those words. And it comes out to the number seventeen this another seventeen cute, but just curious, seventeenth letter. Whereas simple though thought it would be Donald Trump is what are the most intelligent men probably in our lifetime, like top five, believe it or not quite at hot..
"cunanan" Discussed on Crooked Conversations
"Or now it's like four Chan read it. Breitbart. And so the big Gazi conspiracy theories have even been supercharged. Like if you wanna freak yourself out Google KUA, non and read some stories, but the latest right wing lunacy that is now bubbling up. People are weighing Cunanan shirts to Trump rallies. I mean, it's like it's gotten considerably worse in the Trump. Well, yeah. If you think about it, like if you take the woman, I meant West Virginia, for instance, who is, let's say, you're, you know, you're an intelligent person and you're, but you're not following. You don't know how what we were doing and then Ghazi you don't, you know the history of like how just like cartoons of the prophet Muhammed could set violent protests in Middle East video, right? And then you wake up and what's on FOX. It's like serious questions again about what the official version of events was on Benghazi like Ben Rhodes fiction writer. Like, let's go to the guest who then is gonna call Susan Rice, like a liar. And then you turn on talk radio and it's like, and you someone yelling, these people made the story to protect Obama, and then you go online and you reading read it threads about, like, you know, the jihadists from stereo that we were working with and the Muslim brother worked in the White House. Yeah. I mean, in your consuming this month after month after month, like you're living in a world where this is true, and then you know there's credible reporters, the kind that would say us, like is you said, well, I'm covering 'cause the story because they're talking about, but that legitimizes the too because then you've got like Sunday show hosting like on this week tray gouty to talk about his outrage about Benghazi and suddenly the seems this thing that is just let's face it like this tragedy that happened. The worst thing probably that you could say that there wasn't security that facility up -solutely and the worst thing you could say about Susan, Rice's single Sunday of appearances is that there may may. Not have been spontaneous protests may have just been a violent protests like that spawned like four years of this industry and which led to the committee which led to Hillary Clinton's Email server, which led to Donald Trump being president right is you know. I mean, one question I what could we have done to stop that? So I think about that a lot and like look. This, that Chris Stevens did not have enough security with him that he should have been better protected. The facilities that we're talking about that were tax should have been better protected. It's probably worth considering whether our global force posture should be readjusted to add some places to get the like to get the time. It takes to get a plane or drone which we did with Acilia. Right? So like all those things. Fair questions. Fair critiques should have been corrected. But the problem is when you offer you don't have an obligate. You don't have choice during the Benghazi attacks during the bin Laden operation to withhold information from the press. Yeah, because it's leaking other places and you need to tell them the best information that's important point because people act like, well, you don't have to tell people anything we're being asked a million times a day. What do you think have been? You know, it's it's. It's not really tenable for like a couple of weeks to say like, we'll get back to when the investigation. Exactly. And so like just use the bin Laden operation example, John Brennan had been hunting Osama bin Laden for. Eighteen years. He'd been stayed up for four days straight planning, the operation and the day after it went down, we asked him to brief the press because he was one of like four people in the building who could. And he said that the special operators involved gotten a firefighter of a firefight in that bin Laden uses wife as a human shield. Turns out there wasn't a firefight..
"cunanan" Discussed on The Daily Zeitgeist
"Or this group of people queue who were anonymously, leaving crumbs for all of these really desperate right wing conspiracy theorists to believe that all the Muller probe is really about him and Trump taking down Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, oh my God, what have fucking it's man, what a stretch mantra wrote that. Yeah, exactly. So so yesterday at the at the rally CNN sent to guy to go talk to them again in like, you know, these people hook line and think there they love this whole anti media narrative and just sort of we pulled a couple of clips from the some of the Cunanan fans Trump rally yesterday. There hasn't been any non evidence yet a major mantra among followers. The press is the enemy. You guys are you don't believe in the first amendment. I totally believe in the press or weaponize. You guys are totally weaponized by the nobody's up. You guys are well, see. I don't know anybody in the CIA except a couple people interviewed over the years. Okay. But weapon. I, what does that even mean? It's fair like you say stuff that doesn't mean any conspiracy theorist determining I'm weaponized maybe not to your knowledge and it's. That's really, that's unfortunate. You believe there is a deep state. What did you think that deep states? Do you think the running this country? I think they were in their petrified. Now thing losing their control Donald Trump's, the president, he's right in the country, right. Yeah, but he's having to fight against. I mean, he said he could do it all themselves. Everything would be so easy when it came into office and he you think he's fighting with the deep state a year and a half into his term. I think he's been fighting since before he was elected. And who was in this deep state? Who are the people any definitely believed the Clintons, the bushes, the Obamas. So you think the Clintons the bushes nearby are running this country. As we stand here in the rain. No, they're trying. I mean, she's not wrong. Out of the house. Right? Like, I'm sure that these people have not been outside for a while. So this is nice, get some exercise legs. Need a little stretch j I, it's, I mean, what's funny is that you think she? Yeah, I don't. Yeah. In the middle of her, you could see her start to realize like she hasn't talked to a lot of people in a while. Right, right. In the middle of it, you could hear her being like, MS sounds the Nadi, especially. Right. And so you think that they're running the country right now? She's like no other human being says that back to me while that Sam crise versus me using my confirmation bias while looking at a screen yet and this reading texts that goes, yes, yes, yes. You me from being a little more aware of how bad the situation is. And also I feel like deep state starting to seem like analogous with like waning white supremacy or influence, or they're like, well, now they're scared and they're fighting back. I'm like, isn't that you right now? Isn't that what's motivating? You? Is this idea that there was this once power power structure that you got is of remained, flip it on and be like, do you guys want to be in the deep statement? I mean, yeah, that that would sound good. I would be in the aluminum, what's that game? Or is there like a. Specific type of like psychological or game theory, where you try and put the person in power to make them sound like they're the one that's the minority like these guys are. You know, dump Trump is absolutely empower right now, right? All his people. The Republicans are controlling everything, but what is the psychology of trying to convince people that they're still the minority like they're still persecution where that it's a lot of how they get Christians to like they're being persecuted for their beliefs in the people were like, well, it's fighters from the state at Tennessee, which is a volunteer state, which always made me laugh because in some you learn Tennessee history, you have to. And that's when it hit me. I was like, oh, we remorse in Aries. That's what volunteers are. The balls we were just like, oh, there's the fight. Cool. Yeah, we're down who said, I don't care. It doesn't get to murder for free and I don't get punished and you guys are gonna pay me..
"cunanan" Discussed on It's Been a Minute with Sam Sanders
"Non is why haven't we just figured out who q. q. posted online, what Tober of last year trace that address figure out who q. is get to the bottom of this. Yeah, I, I would really like to know that as well. I mean, there really are. There's a lot of theories about who it is. None of them I find particularly convincing. I mean, I think in the end it's gonna turn out to be some random troll. And then you know who did something that got way out of hand, but really could be anybody, could it be a Russian? So I'm reluctant to speculate on that, but there are a lot of a lot of these conspiracies have turned out to be boosted by Russians. So you know, I, I wouldn't rule it out. Last question, should we have had this conversation? Should we be covering this? Should the mainstream press give airtime and page time too crazy conspiracy theories. It's an interesting debate and I think you across a threshold with, you know, it's not like you're going out and finding five people who believe something. I mean, this seems to be it's hard to measure online things and. Conspiracy theories like this, but this seems to be a growing movement in the Trump grassroots in April months. Before this really started growing, I went to acute on rally, something like two hundred people showed up in DC in DC on. So they were watching marching down Washington DC in mill chanting, slogans and all this. And so you know, I think you reach a point with this where do thank you risk spreading it. But at the same time, you know, people are going to be saying this and they're gonna be googling it. And I think if the mainstream media is talking about it, you know the people are going to be going on the words of some random guy on YouTube. Like I, when I started looking at this, maybe back in February. I really did not think I thought it was some weird on a forum that would never get out of there. And now you see people hold families at Trump rallies with Cunanan shirts and Cunanan gear. It's it's very bizarre and it's hard to know where this all ends well, well, on that note. December, he covers conspiracy theories for the beast. Thank if you're..
"cunanan" Discussed on WCPT 820
"Say trolling the Trump pearls does get kind of. Fun someone's, like, hey before you go to the rally spoiler alert Hillary Clinton is not locked up and never will. Be, yeah but it's sometimes it's good that they. Play don't stop. Believing. Right You want to. Hear the greatest hits Okay in the black hole of conspiracy which q has. Plunged its followers Trump only feigned collusion Wait for it to create a pretense for the hiring of Bob Muller who is actually. Working as a white hat or hero to expose the Democrats Obama Hillary Clinton George Soros Okay okay we're planning a coup and traffic children in their spare time that's not important JP Morgan also the American they sank the Titanic Weeknight. On Roseanne Barr. Has posted messages that appear. To endorse oh okay Human Text settles, it Dale But it blank, space celebrity name bar Yeah Now I need a morning breakfast fruit as long as you're just filling in blanks. Here Yes but then here's the not funny punchline, to, at Newport, police department said it was looking into prison to the man outside Michael Bob and nowadays law firm link after a link to the lawyers website and. Images of his office building appeared in Cunanan threads Okay there's some I mentioned this, yesterday, Travis there's, some again I don't know are there any other kind of right wing radio hosts lunatics I'm not certain but Trafficking in this kind of it, may be time to take up arms to we'll Sean Volturno Trump pardon Hannity's retweeted Cunanan stuff fantastic fantastic and. He called Jim Acosta fake news again because he's it's just. Like they've all decided they're going to start, using, his mono-syllabic. Slavic words like they're. All. They're all they're. All driving their. Tweets down to like single double syllables they're all using the? Larger letters bake, like Like. There's some sort of twitch going on there I think the really good news at least Steve that we've taken from this whole segment John f. Kennedy. Jr. is alive and I think that's a happy thing yeah but he's working with Trump Well. That's, not what I had planned Just take the. Shiny forever. Relationship with, mine goes sour eventually. Try, I'm sorry I'm the dark cloud.
"cunanan" Discussed on Anderson Cooper 360
"Gergen mentioned early in the program. Chris mentioned as well. We're gonna take a look potential element of Trump rallies including one last night members of this group called non. You see the sign their believers in conspiracy theories are moving only now servicing large audience detail what it is. Well, it's certainly a lot of conspiracy theorists out there these days, but you may not know very much about a group called Cunanan group that embraces a wide array of these theories. You could see some signs last night's Trump rally and cunanan's visible presence is growing. Radically tonight has explanation. Cunanan is a fringe grew built on conspiracy theories and devoted to Donald Trump. The queue represents a real person. Someone who is a non Mus who claims to have access to government secrets, Intel that he or she refers to as crumbs that are revealed in dark corners of the web though, so called classified secrets, all of them false. Then our shared on websites like Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube. Some of the conspiracy theories that have been shared under the banner of cue that the Las Vegas concert shooting was actually a botched attempt to assassinate the Saudi Crown prince and that President Obama and Hillary Clinton are actually the ones under investigation by Robert Muller, not the Trump campaign also that Trump was pretending to favor Putin. So it would force an investigation into the Democrats. The group seems to have grown stronger last year after the president said this. This. Even. Weeks. Later reports, say someone calling themselves. Q. began posting cryptic messages in an online thread called calm before the storm. Q. claim to be a high level government insider followers, believe q., even flew on Air Force. One at one point Cunanan had falsely suggested certain Hollywood celebrities were pedophile 's posting video of the alleged victims on you to another theory that gained steam lies about slain DNC staffer, Seth rich explosive developments in the mysterious murder of former DNC staffer, Seth rich one of the theories posted red cube shell. Debbie. Wasserman Schultz ordered Seth, riches, murder, and suggested someone has put together some very significant cue in on bread crumbs and baked a bombshell loaf of bread. Police say, it was a botched robbery. Wasserman Schultz called the rumors vile more recently Cunanan Vangelis. Started bombarding reporter for the conservative website. The daily caller insisting he asked about Cunanan at the White House briefing. He refused to do it. People commenting on my personal Instagram photos. Damn Kaur who needs to do my damn job and ask about you. So yeah, it was. It was like a nonstop of three or four days of online harassment while it's unclear how many people believe these lies awareness of Cunanan really began to mushroom after the so-called pizza gate conspiracy, a wild theory that falsely connected high ranking democratic officials to an alleged child trafficking ring at a pizzaria in Washington DC, but people believed it leading to one man opening fire on the restaurant. No one was hurt, but some worry a could be a precursor of violence spawned by the group's outlandish claims. Randy k. c. n. n. New York. We're quick reminder. Don't miss our daily newscasts on Facebook. It's called full circle. You can see weeknights at six, twenty five eastern and Facebook dot com. Slash Anderson Cooper, full circle news continues one handed over to Chris for Cuomo primetime, Chris..
"cunanan" Discussed on KNX 1070 NEWSRADIO
"The cavern and died cunanan was a professional diver these boys ages eleven to sixteen can barely swim at least a couple of the boys who said to be suffering from exhaustion and or malnutrition the trump administration has been ordered to produce by five this afternoon a list of all children under the age of five who've been forcibly separated from their parents at the border federal judge in san diego made that determination on friday in response to a request from the department of justice asking for more time to reunify the families as many as three thousand children remain separated from their parents president trump's mar a lago club is once again asked for permission to hire sixty one foreign workers to work as waiters and cooks for the winter social season other south florida resorts also bringing in foreign workers for the season but david farren hold the washington post says that this runs counter mr trump's america first policy not all these clubs are run by the president of the united states and by a president who is made sort of immigration boogeyman of the us economy so yes trump has done this for a long time and it seems like he hasn't really changed anything since he's become president is started telling other people to do the opposite to hire americans at whatever price in fact it seems like he actually is hiring more people the number of waiters cooks that he's seeking this year bring in from foreign countries is higher than it was in past years in order to get approval from the department of labor to hire foreign workers clubs like maralago must first prove that they cannot find qualified applicants locally fahrenheit says that's an easy issue to work around court papers show globe trotting chef author and tv host anthony bourdain was worth one point two million dollars when he died last month most of his estate has been left to his eleven year old daughter for danes will was filed this week in a new york court it shows assets including four hundred twenty five thousand in cash in savings of two hundred.
"cunanan" Discussed on 1410 WDOV
"Well then if there's a handler so the point of cunanan what i've been observing is the original iterations are done by a group of people that operate almost on what's called polar logic of like good and evil angel and demon where they present the angel and then they come in and they double cross it with the demon and then they present you with a hero complex like a is gonna come in and be like i figured it out and so that's the one reason and the main reason that i believe that the the entire chewing on phenomenon regardless of if it's the first integration or the final later ration is because it's following this pattern that i've found in their documentation for an ai call tyler about how they create controlled opposition how they feed the information to the machine how they purposely formatted in question answering so that way there's no accountability for the machine later that i've encountered with the machine that match up to cunanan as being a machine environment having like a human machine operator using multi agent intelligent bots it's formed in that same kinda conversational structure boy guys either i think that the sorry i think the question is cunanan bhatt is the wrong question i think what cunanan is is a cyber intelligence warfare operation against the public the truth seeking independent journal lists the whoever's not on board with their agenda of how they want information flowing and how they want you know money going to independent news channels etc that's an operation and they're using bots they're using social media they're using individuals who are trolls who control multiple accounts who are you know striking videos and putting crappy comments and trying to create this false you know astroturf ing if fake grassroots movement kind of thing and it's just all kinds of stuff well as i as we say in the business it's not over yet and i'm sure that i will do a follow up to find out if the context that i'm being senator correct and i may just do this on further show to see if we can unravel this i i would lean towards the idea that some sort of intel or sigh up it's because i don't know if i trust the.
"cunanan" Discussed on KPNW 1120AM Newsradio
"Last forty eight hours after saying that cunanan was compromised on my twitter feed in my emails have just been obviously hate generated psychopath operations that's right this is just a few kids with hot pockets of their mothers base lending playing video games this is this is them taking control of the symbol of cunanan and now weaponising and again the goal seems to be the the cyclops taking a hold of it is going to destroy the movement that whether basically saying things to divide in other words you can can't make a profit well clearly that's the attack me for writing a book and profiteering on the patriot movement what is in the clinton foundation not their new bigger one the original library foundation documents that judicial watch and worldnet daily got over seventy thousand pages they said the number one thing is don't let christians conservatives or nationalists ever build an economy the number one rule is call them conspiracy theorist and the number to rule is always attack profiting don't let them create an economy precisely and that's what killing on his done now what leader divides their own followers by this kind of a comment and besides look at president trump yesterday and indiana is said you know let's make wealth grade again off record course i told you through an army special operations source who you talk to don't say any first names either who's been in most elite army units multi units there are that they told you we told you months ago that it was being compromised and then it had been compromised and they were going gonna operate like they were good until they built a movement to try to take control of it so it's already destroyed did we not a few months ago in a phone call in here warn me on this you understand that sourcing we're talking to say i did as credible it was a real sources we got sources all over the place bigger than the original cunanan people i know i was on the phone this morning with the real people right the real people have been identified at the i had a pretty good idea who they were at the very beginning as i went into it the identification became clearer and clearer i mean the the.
"cunanan" Discussed on AM Joy
"And he apparently believes conspiracy theories about democrat hillary clinton that track with internet extremists as the daily beast knows roseanne keeps promoting q anon the protrump conspiracy theory that makes pizza gate look tame cunanan user on the side four chan who according to the daily beast claims to be a high ranking government official with inside knowledge of the white house where he claims trump is planning mass arrests of top democrats for allegedly being involved in wait for it a satanic child sex trafficking ring bars plugging cunanan's theories drew renewed attention this friday when she tweeted president trump has freed so many children held in bondage the pimps all over the world hundreds each month his broken up trafficking rings in high places everywhere bar said that she was talking about an actual sex trafficking bus that have taken place during trump's term okay this all happened a few days after bar has delete a different tweet one in which she respond added to a photo of parkland survivor david hough with two words nazi salute joining me now msnbc contributor gabriel sherman the new schools maya wiley and actor director rob reiner thank you all for being here gave so i i watched the first episode and half the second episode of the show and i have to say that my take on it track exactly with rocks in gays roxane gay had a terrific piece in the new york times the roseanne reboot it's funny i'm not going to keep watching well i'm on track with all of it i didn't find it all that funny necessarily it was interesting in that you have this family who people knew the connors from the nineties who are this blue collar hardscrabble family but they're sort of trying to be everything they're both incredibly open minded when it comes to their gender non conforming grandchild they've got this black granddaughter who they don't really remark about her but she just there with everybody else and they don't say anything about it and at the same time there are trump supportive or at least roseanne and her husband are and so it strikes me as the way trump voters want to see themselves in want to be seen and the way that most of the mainstream media sort of obsessively portrays them and not on top of the fact it's the way the tv networks want to sort of tap.
"cunanan" Discussed on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen
"N dancing kristine w since like the andrew cunanan days christine w and then it made me think wow i mean i don't know you must have met erica jane on the circuit a lot of prides and shows together i love her well very audrey cohen great to see you let's get started just want to say congratulations jerry you are killing it doing such a great job i mean watching you i was like man if i get sick i am never letting jerry guest host my show because you will replace me in a second no there it's nothing like that wendy's for another four days when you'll be back up on and by the way wendy wendy is wendy yes she is the queen of all media i mean let's be clear well yeah but i mean no one can fill your shoes either beverly beach which is out now yes congrats sank thank you you so so by the way you are in quite a twitter war with camille grammer rate now camille was like you know it started when oh there's the first one's a fans weeded at camille and camille said brandy injury didn't have tough seasons they were spared a lot of real jake euless things that were an air to read said really like what what have i said camille said you were spared some of the comments you made it the project angel food oh my god if some of those comments were aired even kyle was concerned for you to read said find a hobby it's becoming sad and pathetic then camille said is this really you to read or is this a fake account you sound terrible disrespectful tweet shame underrate shame under.
"cunanan" Discussed on No Agenda
"Yeah vendrell that mentioned spartans in darkness and if you research spartans in darkness it's signals intelligence pen tyler is signals intelligence so as of february fifth letter ever need to look at cunanan stuff because cunanan is dropping signals intelligence in i'm researching tyler which is signals in intelligence and they talk about things like operators in they talk about things like use logic and there's so many phrases in the queue in on drops that indicate that it's machine logic and human logic mixed but they use terms like operate they use terms like cigarette they use defined terms that are only used in the intelligence community when talking in reverse to machines replace so what do you think that means it means snyder someone is in my researcher someone is used in an ai to reveal information to the world so that it can't be traced back to them and get caught and get in trouble so like if i'm if i'm who wants to reveal information i don't want to to get traced back to me or to any of my ip address zillow that information into an ai and that i launch it onto the internet somewhere and then i have the a i do the drop the join and rabbits it says spartans in darkness in a gesture the star wars movie hall finishes a man comic books are merely gave we knew upon kent man okay by they're still pushing a gardasil really hard sales must be down this was on the sacramento bee what does size sacramento be what kind of newspapers that is agremeent ob at used to be as substantial paper that was like a good local newspaper in the old days but now has turned into kinda like one those regional newspapers so they would do owned by its own by a group of people that are.