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Bruins Sign Craig Smith & Torey Krug Goes To The Blues | Poke the Bear w/ Conor Ryan

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Bruins Sign Craig Smith & Torey Krug Goes To The Blues | Poke the Bear w/ Conor Ryan

"And welcome in 2 episode 12 of poke the bear podcast. I'm Aronofsky alongside Conor Ryan of Boston Sports Journal Connor. And do we have anything to talk about today? I don't think we do. I really don't know. I mean maybe in just I don't know the weather the weather's nice outside 77 talk about. Yeah, I don't know. I watched you watching anything on T recently been to The Sopranos on HBO show or something like that or more more A Better Call Saul Now, I actually haven't gotten around to seeing better car a big Breaking Bad Guy, but it's haven't gone around people said it was kind of slow down to get around. Okay, you know will cut the shit. Yeah. No, there's there's a lot, you know, there's a lot going on there's quite a bit. And so by the way of Shadow me new new Mike. I hope you have some better or look better with age. Right in front of me now. It's not off to the side. This was $60 more. It's like supposedly the best Mike that can be plugged into your MacBook. So I was like hell yes sure, centers are thrilled shake it off, but I sound like an angel sound like first sex with Jesus. Yes friends a lot of stepbrothers references by the way on Twitter lately we get to that second. Yeah, so lots of stuff Bruins free agency the first half of day one was nothing there was nothing. I mean the TSN show they were grasping at straws to talk about you can only talk about or kind of Carousel enough. Yeah. They were they were really doing projects for the 2022 Olympics are projecting the Canadian teen. I was like, they're going to start doing like twenty twenty six to one point of they're going to keep on rolling with it tough tough day for content for the rest of the NHL. But Kevin Miller re-signs wasn't that big a thing but then our antennas popped up when the Bruins moved Sweeney's presser back from 5 p.m. Until 6 a.m. Saturday at 1 we thought it was much bigger. They have reportedly offered Taylor Hall a short-term three-year deal. But Torey Krug were all probably settling in for a nice fun Friday night. Whatever you decide to do whether you stand whether you go out and social justice, whatever it is who's probably cut in half like ours where when it around 8:00 Elliott Friedman tweeted out croup Saint Louis down all wet. What so what was your initial reaction to that? Very interested to hear this? Yeah. I think when the news broke that he was leaving. I don't think I think pretty much all of us were in the same boat that we thought he was going to go elsewhere and get a significant deal Saint Louis being the one to offer him that that came as a surprise. I think I don't think I really expected them to sign him considering, you know, the fact that st. Louis seem like they're still in the running for pietrangelo. They had money already tied up with a guy like Justin Faulk dead. So it came as a big surprise and I think even pietrangelo was I think pretty shocked by it too. It seemed like he was going to make the rounds and then probably come back to Saint Louis and I think as it progressed, I you know, we went from a situation where you know, Krug leaves and most of us were expecting to do it. Anyway, so you already kind of you know half way out the door of like, you know, congrats congrats improved for, you know, getting a you know, getting the bag and earning that contract that he definitely deserves been here that we wanted to team like Saint Louis which you know, I'm sure sours a lot of Bruins fans, but the fact that it seems like the issue is with the Bruins just didn't go anywhere. You know, they like, I mean you listen to Krug his you know, his first breath. There's a st. Louis blue. Yeah. He was clearly not thrilled about how's the situation went because I think we were all expecting. I'm sure you're in the same boat that you know, if you went what's a Detroit or any of these team Columbus who cleared a bunch of cap and he signed off. Is and you know seven seven and a half million a year. I think the Bruins are probably us would be like, all right. What are you going to do? Right. It's it's one of those situations where you know, the Bruins have to upgrade all the areas, you know, they ought to have him back. But if he's going to get paid somewhere else, you know, there's not really much you can do there and good for him for forgetting that contract and good for him that he's you know going your team Saint Louis who is going to pay him and he gets caught seven year contract that he deserved but I I think when you kind of get you know, Kruk side of it where they offered him a contract last year and didn't Circle back to offer them anything and then he says, you know that they pulled that off or on him. So it seems like he was waiting for a call on Friday afternoon Friday morning, and she didn't get anything from them, which is Pretty surprising. I mean again, I don't think he was going to be here going forward but the fact that there's no offer at all is pretty pretty sad on well, I was just very surprised at a lot of it. So the the Chrome S conference took place Friday night at about 9:45 eastern time and it was eye-opening for a lot of reasons and you mentioned a few of them. Number one. We it had been reported that the Bruins had offered a six year 66.5 a year million dollar deal and crew comes out and basically and because when when the deal first broke through seven years 6.5 we all said why would a year makes you happy St. Louis exactly. How does that make sense? It did become more clear though when it was reported and then crew confirmed that they pulled it back in that the deal they gave him was from a year ago. Yeah so long. I mean, I think he did want to stay in Boston. I don't think like I think some people like oh look at him going to st. Louis as he said in his press conference Saint Louis was never in the cards. And that's also another thing. That stuns me dead. Now see Mister friend this morning when you think about it if it's your big payday and it's your your long-term deal this where you're going to raise your family. This is where you are going to, you know, live out your life for seven-plus years. I'm very surprised that he didn't consider Saint Louis before and it sounded like the decision was made. Holy on winning and to me I look at that and I say were you really ready to go. Louis? Like are you sure you wanted to do this? Because part of me thinks now, I'm not saying staying with the Bruins, but I do wonder if you done research into Saint Louis cuz didn't sound like you did. It did not sound like they were ready to go to Saint Louis and it just sounded like maybe I'm wrong and it's his decision, but it kind of sounded like it was very impulsive not leaving the Bruins. I think that was always off like we all said he was gone but choosing st. Louis sounded a little impulsive. I mean, it's I think it's one of the situations right where it seems like it wasn't on his radar. He mentioned that and then you look at the options, right? I mean if he prioritized winning and getting a fair deal in the Bruins game, let's say they offered that six six and a half million dollar contract. I'm what are your what are your other options that you want to go to Detroit and make sense from the perspective of you know, he knows Jeff blashill. He's from Michigan and makes a lot of sense but like that team's not turning things around and not you know, another year to you want to go to Columbus who has a bunch of cap space but that team, you know could be good. But like, you know, it depends on how you like Tortorella. It's not a big Market. It's not the way most happening place in the NHL and not saying Saint Louis's we already have a friggin podcast or we roasted Saint Louis for the first ten minutes of it. But and even st. Louis, you know, it's his team still on the up-and-up. I mean, they've got really good pieces but joining Bennington didn't really have a good year. They're going to lose Fortran jalloh. They signed that horrible contract for Justin fog that France why they can't keep the trans hello, but you'll get all those options and if the Bruins have that offer still on the table, I bet he would have taken it because it seems like regardless of who signing contracts. Everyone's either taking short-term deals or they're taking contracts phone number. Over the market value like we were pietrangelo signs with you know, he might just end up getting eight million seven and a half million or something like that when he could have probably gotten 9 and 1/2 thousand and ten and a half if there's a normal year and I think for you know, people are saying that Torey Krug, you know, he turned down that, you know, 6 6 and 1/2 6 years 6 and 1/2 million dollar contract last year. It's like well wage one, you know, there's nothing wrong with the guy betting against himself and you know, it's not like he was saying I don't want to stay here. It's like I want to see how I get paid next year and he didn't expect it to be a McCann all these things that I'm terribly not like separately covid-19, and he probably thought that if he played through another year had another strong year she would get 8 and 1/2 nine million per year on the market and he would take probably a HomeTown discount in Boston and they probably offer him. 7 7 and 1/2 and you would probably taking it like without just one that wasn't how the situation panned out. I'll see what all the stuff that's going on this year. And then to it just seemed like the Bruins weren't interesting them back and it was just a situation where you know, you could probably hop on the fact that if they weren't interested, why didn't they either move them earlier to get a return or trade in negotiation rights, but it just seems like the Bruins weren't interested in bringing him back and they're focused more on going through other routes to improve their Rasta. It just sounded rushed to go to Saint Louis and my and my me what I mean is like I'm not saying you should have stayed with the Bruins. There was no offer which again is like they've the Bruins really I don't think we're amazing to him in that regard the fact that they pull the offer and basically said you can come back and get it but like you're on your own dude, but it just feels I don't know it just it was just it seems so quick. I was like wait you didn't consider Saint Louis? So I'm crazy stuff. I hope he has all the success he deserves all the success in the world. And st. Louis. I hope we get the news gjb. Not a great tweet, you know fact that Tori grew up in Boston is proof the hockey Gods just don't exist. So I just I mean would have been awesome to see him raise the cup here, but I think everyone wanted that to happen and unfortunately just did it and wage. I think that's what's going to Sting. The guy has an incredible Legacy with the Bruins you wrote about it last night or Friday night, but just an incredible Legacy one of the best players to cover birth. For sure, one of the nicest classiest, you know, not cocky but just very confident individual which I think you got to be to be a 5 9 guy breaking into the NHL team drafted guy and delete now as much more, you know welcoming to he's kind of smaller defenseman, but he was kind of one of the first ones to break through and what does he do he school is what full goals in his first five playoff games. From there and gets off on, you know, a stat like that and just kind of continue to prove the doubters wrong through all of it. So as much as people who like to hop on, you know, he's doesn't pull a defense anything like that. I mean for what he brought this team and so many different areas of the game, especially how he meant what he meant two players in the room, especially a lot of the the younger players. It's kind of that bridge between them and that older core of you know, Bergeron and Char and stuff like that. I mean that's definitely going to be missed cuz he was really was a key foundation in that dressing room. So, you know good for him. To get a contract like that so here to someone who could potentially be a big presence of the dressing room at a second first. You mentioned betting on yourself. What if you just bet yourself Connor told us how they can do that. Listen up Sports Bettors. 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And don't forget type in Boston Sports journal to get up to 150% and bonuses on your first deposit. That's bet u e s. So Saturday morning, I think Bruce fans got a much more encouraging piece of news was kind of like a nice way to Friday night. You got disappointed. You're heartbroken Saturday with a different girl calls you and says, hey, you know what? Maybe I'll take you on a date. Oh, these are getting better. Things are on the up-and-up now they that's a kind of a weird way to I guess compare the two but it does it does but so the Bruins signed Craig Smith Saturday morning three years 3.1 million. / I love the deal. I think you love the deal. What I was very interested to hear was Sweeney age that they talked all day yesterday. So maybe that was what was postponing the press conference was there just talking to Craig Smith all day, which may be I mean, they also have the Taylor Hall stuff so that could have a name. As well, but just your reaction to Craig Smith now being a bruin. Yeah, I mean, I love that contract and what he brings his team and how he addresses a major role in this lineup and over at Boston Sports Journal. We had a few stories earlier this offseason kind of focusing on Craig Smith and why he'd be a great value pick up because it wasn't he does not have the same, you know appeal as you know, a Mike Hoffman or a dad and all for one of these guys. I mean his name even sounds like an NHL 20 name generator, right? And this is the guy who does draft in like twenty thirty seven, you know who becomes like a thirty goal scorer like you I don't even know who this guy is. He has orange hair. It's it's like it's just one of those weird setups there, but you look at what Craig Smith brings his team though, perhaps, you know, even if you look at the Baseline numbers, you know, the the stuff you look at real quick. He's a 20-goal skora scored twenty goals and five is nine years, but I think we're his real value is just a a short heavy game. I guy who generates quality looks pretty much every time he's out on the ice defensively responsible guy. I mean he ranked, you know, he primarily with a 3rd line last month with the Predators with Benigno and Grimaldi not really a line that stands out to you. You're not dealing with you know, earliest Pattinson line or you know, Crosby's line or McDavid, you know off a brochure online. There's no quality. Yeah, but I mean they they let all those lines in terms of goals for percentage. I mean they, you know, it was not even remotely close in terms of how much natural is consistently winning their match up scoring plenty of goals. Negating is going to be on the other end of the ice when that wins out there and it's not just a flash-in-the-pan. I mean, he's dead Greg Smith's done that on multiple different lines use with, you know, fiala interest few years back in that third line was also buzzsaw. So I think when you look at the Baseline numbers of what you're getting is a 20 goal scorers, The value I mean a three-year contract, you know, three and three point 1 million dollars for you, which is a great bag and for them. It's not like you're you know handcuffing you're still yourself the rest of this offseason in terms of making more moves from and you know, it kind of depends on where exactly the the plans off of them and in terms of where they want to put him. I think if you have him next to coil, you're all that, I mean you've got I think an elite third line there you finally have a triggerman to play with coil cuz it's the same thing every year I think with the coil and that line we we know he protects the puck. We know he extends his own possessions, but those don't factor that much into it if you're not bearing those chances, right and that's kind of what the problem is you with coil. And now you have a legitimate guy who's ready and willing pretty much of a chance he gets to let go of that puck in generate a shot on goal. So I think he put him with coil your You're set with what that third line is and it's just an extra wave of scoring if he's higher up in the lineup and he's you know competing with Andre Kasha one of those guys for a top-six spot off then you know, I still think he's very very good player at you know, ideally I think you'd want to have a more said sure if I a guy up there but regardless of you know, where exactly goes to line up when you add in the email you get from this contract plus of what you're expecting to get from him. I think it's a steal, you know, it's funny. If you're if you're going to the Stanley Cup Smith's your third line right winger if you can put in with coil and preferably sneak, please God not Nick Ritchie, but you know, they're going to try it anyways, but just jacks Anika there would be perfect that line. I think would be awesome. That's the basically a second second line. But I want to propose this. I just thought of this as you were talking. What about Marshawn Bergeron Smith? Because again, you have Marshawn Bergeron always produce can put Smith up there. I mean, he has the you know, the analytics the goalscoring the numbers. I mean, he's a good solid player to put with them as he pastrnak know but nobody is try him up there move pastrnak down with krejci and let Kasha and debrusk found that out let you know cause she spent some time in the third line. I mean again how she could work on the second line. Anyways, who knows but I think that's the thing that Cassidy will definitely try and think you should try it because you know out of those top nine. That's not a bad. That's not a bad right side, you know posture Akasha Smith. I mean that you can play with those you can you know, put guys in different places. You can keep it off my conscious Smith. Um, but if there's anything I think that it's obvious there's there's more than needs to be done. Definitely. I mean there has to be more that comes down because they got a left side Marshawn debrusk said she has really not a great guy on the left side in my opinion. So it's like what I think you'd want him to be in a right spot or Center role which I don't think is coming at least next Thursday. So more needs to be done. But that's not a bad Top 9 as is you know for right now to finish, you know, that that is getting you to the second round. It's just I think you need one more piece to get you pass jog around the other thing I think is interesting is I think Craig Smith and Tyler toffoli are a lot closer to the people think like I think people generally generally look at those two and go. Oh two phone number. Much better we have to consider to Foley was on a team in Los Angeles that was terrible offensively the past few years and Craig Smith was on a name wise stacked offensive team the Predators at least you forsberg Duchesne tourists stunk there. But I mean, I think the explains a lot more out of him. He took up, you know a spot so I look at that and I think well Maybe they're you know, the numbers are closed the analytics favor Smith. So it's like I think you know to getting to Foley would be great. But I think we get someone for that left side with Taylor Hall. And and that's hard cuz it's only like twelve million in cap space. Now the Bruins have and you have to Brusque to resign you have Chris like to re-sign you have Chara to re-sign. Can you afford Hall and that I mean, I think I think there's got to be contract with there's gotta be more trades coming. So on the topic of Taylor Hall because that's the fun topic. Do you think this happens? I mean, I think there's a chance it all depends on what the suitors on what the contract offers are out there cuz you see a few of these other cup contenders. And then other than maybe Colorado. I don't know what other you know legitimate Contender would offer him a good deal. Like Boston would would be a short-term contract for a team that you look at the team and it seems like you can probably put them off the top. I mean you you look at what Hall brings and for as much if you will say, you know, he's not a win. It's like look at the team's he was he's been saddled with for his entire career. I mean, I don't know what you're expecting him to bring to this group. But I mean, I think it'd be a fantastic pick up but you can do it you would have to move other pieces around and if let's say you signed Hall would probably do is they don't you take other pieces that are in the middle six or or what have you and you probably I would assume probably package them in a trade for a left shot D is most likely would be so maybe debrusk and other pieces or You're going to find a way to get other contracts off the books, whether it's you know, John Moores contract or Richie's or something like that. So it'd be a lot of maneuvering but if you look at this offseason, I mean you're seeing a black guys settle for cheaper to contract mean people about Tyson. Barrie was going to make 5 and 1/2 6 million dollars a year on a four or five-year deal and he goes to Edmonton for one year, right? So you're seeing a lot of these contracts where these guys are. I think anyone in my whole there. Yeah, and you know, you read the market and you see how I mean, we'll see what happens when pietrangelo signs dunce when he says he hasn't had discussions with tranchulas camps, but if he goes to Vegas, you know, is it going to be in Vegas? The only one who can really offer him a big contract they going to hand them seven years ten million, you know, like is he or is he going to sign, you know, like 7049 million, you know, like it all depends on what these contracts going to look like. So again don't overlook what it seemed like Columbus and Nashville can offer Hall from just the the Dead A huge, you know long-term contract, but if there's a this is a situation with the Bruins have cap space and not hamstrung by contracts. They can move contracts around 5 if need be it's not like they're stuck with a Bacchus or something like that. You can't move it's you know, you'd have to move a guy like the Brusque which you know is unfortunate cuz I still think he has value but you probably get something good in return for a younger player like that. So it's certainly possible. I'm sure when we have our next podcast our opinions will be very hopefully we'll be changed. Hopefully this isn't carrying into Palm mid next week or anything like that, but it's definitely a possibility cuz you look at some of these other teams out here. I don't know what other team offers him what the Bruins can bring him. It's just depends more than him in his agent down ferrets are willing to take a maybe a more of a short-term deal. I mean the if you look at the Predators and the Blue Jackets, I mean, I guess Nashville can offer Nashville city and it's it's amazing. It's a nice place and it's warm in the winter and all that stuff off. Nationals warm in the winter, right? Yes, it's Pleasant. Yeah, it's Pleasant. It's good when you know, I like shorts in January or something like that, but you don't dare code. Yeah good enough. But so I took it the Bruins lineup and like let me read you this first line Marshawn Bergeron post-rock second line haul krejci Kasha third line. Probably Bjork oil Smith. I would think you'd have to get rid of debrusk. I have a hard time believing if you get Hall you can keep debrusk. Yeah. I mean, I think you left Dean so so that's so that's where dabros comes in cuz you have Chris looking McEvoy and then question mark and Carlo. So if you said to Taylor Hall like if I'm John Sweeney, we said look Taylor listen here. You're going to go on the second line with David. Krejci. We're going to trade Jake debrusk for a left shot d-man. So we're going to have a great top for Hyundai have a great top nine forwards and we are going to repeat all three years of your deal for Stanley Cup. How do you feel like to me? That's the selling point like you're going to win here you are going to play in postseason games you're dead. It's a guarantee and we're going to use your own power plays we're going to use you. Well like to me that is the selling point and that's and and and Bjork by the way with coil and Smith, I think but also be really good off again bureaucracy to start finishing his chances and you know, you have someone who is a legit potential top-six guy French top success. So the Taylor Hall stuff I think is really interesting cuz you would fit so well, yeah, I I also think too would be better here than maybe even Colorado excited assume if you went to Colorado. He probably switch out with landeskog and probably on that Top Line where it's like, all right, you're the guy who puts this already great line and 2 overages. I feel like who knows what Taylor Hall wants out of this, you know, he prioritises winning. I'm sure also a nice little caveat even though Boston's a big Market. It's you know, it's not like, you know, John Tavares signing with Toronto where the local aspect plays into it too, but he's supposed to be this another, you know, top-line Center that you pair up is kind of that that double headed monster with with Matthews down the middle like here would be off right you're not you know jumping in your not replacing an option with with Bergeron. You're the number two guy with crazy on the second wine, you know, you're not like the the focal point like the focal point of that whole offense with with boss and you fit in as a what the Bruins have been needing and that's flawed but you know, it's not like he's the the Savior coming in. He's not like Chara in in 06 where you like this guy's gonna be the foundational piece or something like that. He's just a very very good player who puts you over the top, you know, he's like almost like a a better drummer. Good luck. Yeah. He's yeah, he exactly like that or a hole in where'd he feels a robe? But he's just that step above what what those guys can bring and I'm sure for a player like that. It's probably good that it's not like he's the guy the the Savior coming in to put this team into a position to contend for a cup 30 cup contenders, but he just makes you that much better. Yes, the I feel like if you go to Nashville or Columbus, he's the Savior as you said and he comes here. I don't think you have that that complex. It's like oh, you're just walk, you know, you're an added piece to help us win a Stanley Cup, and I think that I mean if you can get you know, Den you have three set lines you can you know, they have the whole year to play together and they're going to be consistent you this chemistry and I think even getting just Craig Smith gives you that consistency where you're not, you know, definitely slipping pieces. You can for sure say coil and Smith will beat you out of the whole year and you know, I'm on the left side all that stuff. So should be very interesting. And as you said things are probably going to accelerate it would be awesome for the Bruins to get Taylor Hall just from a Content perspective just from how interesting. I think it would be dead. I think for fans, you know you fans listening. I mean, I think it would and I don't I don't have to sell anybody on Taylor at all. I feel like I'm selling people on the idea of Taylor and all but I really think it would be so interesting and I think it would reject this Bruins team over the top potentially much better chances against Tampa Bay and that second round especially if you're losing Tyler Johnson. Yep, kind of a big thing. I was most reasonable wage and like these movies are going to be happening now. Oh, I forgot by the way. Yes, Torey Krug was right. I mean. Sweeney was right choice was right to say screw, you know Tori kroge like that. That is that the ultimate the ultimate take is people who are like, I know the animal Antics won't going Frank Frank Smith or something, but he's not Mike Hoffman. I'm like, he's better than my coffin you idiots. Like Torey Krug is a trainer. If you can't beat them join them like that is dead. Funny how people being like groups of snake toward Kruk. I'm done with Tori Cruise have a contract off. He has you dummy what dude he's a human being. He's trying to make money the bruising even offer anything let the man be I hope to work groups was a hundred goals and went to Stanley Cup every year. That's st. Louis directions. Yeah now so much same style pizza now, that's so that's the one try. That's a real tragic novice. He has to get that bootleg ass pizza. That's funny that like him in Robert Thomas were tweeted each other. Yeah, just like that hit was so busy and just so humiliating for Robert Thomas. Like that's not something that you can just like tweet away. That's like funny now like you you you got your manhood taken away from you on that head like you aren't a u are not a human being anymore. Yeah, but definitely interesting but lots of crazy stuff Connor before we go. What are you working on it yesterday that people can look forward to yeah. We're breaking down kind of gone. Sweeney's press log. Friends from from Saturday afternoon. We're looking ahead of what kind of the next steps are this seems like every day something new is going to be happening. So who even knows what's going to happen later tonight in terms of how this affects wage offseason because I think you see from the Craig Smith move in in, you know, if you're looking at the lens of just this contract it's great. But you want to sit with the other pieces out that are going to fall for this team. So we'll have you covered every step of the way over a thousand Sports channel. Subscribe there. You can follow me on Twitter at Connor on the school and 93 Connor. 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What Are The Bruins Doing? | Conor Ryan | Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky

Bruins Beat

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What Are The Bruins Doing? | Conor Ryan | Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky

"This is October 13th. And this is the Burn Speed on clns media. And welcome back to the Bruins beat on Ceylon s media. My name is a very upscale. You guys are having a great week tough start to the week the Bruins not really doing a heck of a lot or inside Craig Smith on Saturday morning to make up for the we're not to make up for but I guess in Bruins fans mind it made up for the loss that was losing Torey Krug on Friday night to the st. Louis Blues of all teams. So a tough week for or you Bruins fans and a weird one cuz you know, we all thought they would do a lot more than they are and they aren't and even after so kind of Ryan's on this week of August 4th. Certainly no cross you love Conor Conor and I dissected everything they are doing everything they aren't doing which is a lot more than what they are doing who they're missing out on why they shouldn't be missing out of them could potentially go after one of the names was Nate Schmidt, but Nate Schmidt got traded like right after we finished recording for a third-round pick so that would suck. That could have done a Whole 30 minutes on that but at any rate infuriating times honestly, but we're is I said weird times but more infuriating cuz these are such like, you know to Foley for four point two five million a year. I mean like the Bruins should have been it on that same with Nate Schmidt, even though the contracts not great third round pick. That's not too tough to give up. Eric Gustafson is another one. So I'm a lot of just infuriating stuff and I feel like this would be a good place for you Bruins listeners to Bruins beat listeners. You beat heads. 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Here's my conversation with Conor Ryan Berg and we're here with Conor Ryan Conor. What is up of my Chevy what's going on with you, Just the Bruins not doing a lot and we thought they would do it's a weird. It's a weird time and this feels like normal. We're going to jump right into it cuz there's a lot wrong and usually would do pleasantries, but everybody knows you and I record podcast 24/7 as Folk says so we might as well just jump right into things. I know how you're doing. You know how I'm doing listeners know how wage Tired and watch and checking our phones every day for the last five days. So tired beaten down out of it. No, but so the Bruins right now seem to age a whole lot of nothing and Saturday morning. I felt like, you know, maybe they might do something. They got cracked they signed for X with which we were both big fans of that deal. They moved the press conference back Friday night and we're thinking we'll something in the works here and then Taylor goes to Buffalo Eric Gustafson, Erica Simpson went to wear a year and three million to Philly Philly Chile and to Foley goes to Montreal. Yeah and the standard value 24 hours. Yes, nothing. What are the Bruins doing home 11, I'll be honest. I really don't know exactly what the overall game plan is. I can tell you probably what they going to say is the fact that you know their evaluation. Getting you know who might be available for good value on the market and I mean, yeah, they have to re-sign crystallic and I gotta resign debrusk, you know Charter if they want to do that off and then you know remains to be seen how much money you're going to have left right? Maybe four or five million maybe in available cap room, but it's only the Bruins are you know hamstrung here in terms of what they can do. I mean you can move assets to you know, free up more cap. You can you know, if you you have to still address the vacancy on your nud Cornell with Krug on so long. I mean you can Hawking back to the fact that you know, they miss out on Hall which we don't know even know how that went down. Like if I don't know how Hall picks a team like Buffalo if there's yeah over whatever for the Bruins and if they even had an offer out, I mean they didn't even offer Torey Krug a contract and at that point, you know, we we had that and you pretty surprised by like well if they're not offering to they're not even offering him a contract. They must have been you know, you know sort of going back and mean like all right, we have five plus million and captains freed up now. We can identify other targets to help the team. All right, I like right. What are we doing? Because the Bruins are one of the few contending teams and enter this offseason with a lot of cap or good amount of capital used to play with the ad pieces and you look up the Market's gone and it's gone, you know absolutely down the drain in terms of what these guys are expected to make. I mean, if you told me you get tell it to fully for four years and four to five. I think it'd be very very be pump with that right off. The market is very dipped to a level where you can add one or two pieces for for good value and the Bruins on doing anything like even good stuff's in like that was an easy fix in terms of filling in your life and I'm not a big fan of kissing cuz I mean, he's all offense and like no defense at all. But if you want to pitch it to me because they don't have any better options that you know, you put them with a dog. I like Kalo and maybe a balances out a little bit. I don't really buy that but you can pitch it to me, right that's better than what the game plan is right now, which is you know, you know, Patrice Bergeron's 35 do creatures 34. Yeah, we're a better team as we roll out her whole back and I and Jacobs Borel and people like, well you have to do that eventually. It's like well, yeah you do that eventually when either those guys are attracted and you can take a hit and you're in a bridge you or Bergeron is 31 and create she is thirty and you can you have four or five years down the road of what that core wage now is not the time to do that. So I really don't get what the game plan is. And again, this news can change. I can check my phone as we're done with this podcast and maybe they trade for a guy like Martinez or Schmidt or something like that. But right now I mean all these all have been doing today is checking my phone and seeing guys on good value deals get signed as the Bruins not doing anything. That's funny. I see these good value deals I say is it the Bruins is the birth. You know, we all have Draeger's tween notifications on and appear LeBron and everyone Rose the Bruins. I know it's the Canadians are oh, what's the Sabres or oh, it's the Flyers and and you know, it's funny. It's that time of year where you check your phone all the time, but you also mentioned the Vegas aspect. So we're recording this Monday night. It's 7:53 right now, as I said that so the the golden knights just signed Alex pietrangelo seven years eight point five million per year. I believe twenty-eight I think eight point eight eight point eight million. It's a stinky contract. I mean really not great. That is a just giving up a first-round picks later down the line, but now Vegas has to trade off somebody they have to free up cap space and the the the feeling is it will be someone like Alec Martinez could do four million next year could solve bloodshot defenseman or Nate Schmidt who's dude 5.8 million, I believe per year until twenty twenty-five twenty-six, which name? Is on a contract that excites me much. It should really excite anybody. It's not a good contract. That is a lot of money for someone like Nate Schmidt. But but they're letting their definite top for guys. I'm more so if you had if you have to pick between the two cuz I think that is the obvious move. The Bruins should make for one of those two. I think the easy move is Alec Martinez, you know, she cuz you know, someone said this on Twitter, I forget who it was I I don't mean to, you know, take their opinion, but I thought it was good one. And the sense that you don't know where this team is going to be any year Martinez is a guy in a year get a year out of them in your top for veteran guy proven winner scored those that huge Cup winner, which was like insane. I mean, it doesn't like doesn't mean he's unbelievable. But you know, that was a crazy. I mean talk about a crazy crowd reaction right and a time when you miss the most but you know good solid left shot defenseman four million next year u f a veteran guy could be a fishing. You know, it's a year to me. That's the obvious one and he's probably going to take less to get H mid is a little more expensive. Do you think the Bruins go that route cuz you're not doing anything obvious wage. I mean I think you look at the way the the team set-up and you know, we heard during the the presser with Don Sweeney talking about it how you know, they've embraced these movement in the past and you know, a guy like college who no one really knew what to expect and he turns heads but like again, I look back at you. Look at that team version was what thirty two Thirty-One at that time. Like how long was you know, not saying who knows reckon diners. Well, maybe they become good defense from this year. But like that's a lot of risk you running into on this team that needs to go all-in and also, I mean how much money talked about it like you look at, you know, if you let Krug walk, you know gave you a chance to Tinker and change kind of the identity that Decoy. All right, like you've added a a guy who's bigger. They're not seeing here to get like a goon or something. Right? But like you would at least get a more like steady defensive presence back. There may be a little bit bigger guy. I don't think Novak and I and our Jacob's world are giving you a different look like they're not like a power-play, you know, whiz like Krug is but they're not like, you know, it's not like you wouldn't go like Nikita zadorov or one of those guys was drastically different in terms of what they would bring to the decor. And I I think it's just like a whole lot of risky running into If You're Expecting those guys to all suddenly stepping in and playing again. It's not like it's a dirty pairing roll. It's like you want one of those guys to be playing eighteen nineteen twenty minutes a night every night. I mean it's and then you know, if you'd like to trade guys, this is why you know, you go down all the different scenarios and it's always tough to reject how this offseason is going. I think we're getting a little bit bigger picture. Now that everyone's signing now the big chips have fallen but like, you know, when you let a guy like all slip through your fingers and we don't know how that even went down in terms of the Bruins offered or anything or what the contract was, but you know, you sign a guy like haul you off Make a guy like the Braska biography these other guys Expendable now if you want to trade for a legitimate guy, like are you giving away a debrusk to fill another spot on your on your phone or now, which you know the perfect scenario would be. All right. I mean there's plenty of perfect scenarios. Let's say they got Craig Smith and they signed Gustav's and just as a guy to spot in their wage confident NHL are at least you can at least then keep the Brusque and you have all these other guys that should help your 505 game right now. It's you know, any kind of solution you have. It's like are you trading for a god giving away assets? Most likely guys up front that you're hoping. I'm going to cash in on five-on-five play and then I mean who you signing that's left on the free-agent Market that drives play at 5 on 5, because like wage, you know ever already said on Twitter. I'm going down to my grave that if they sign my coffee and I have to live stream myself watching the Adam Sandler movie Halloween come that way. You're going to be watching that movie like you wouldn't believe it off. Yeah, well, I guess the thing is like you're going to sign one of those guys and everyone going to be like this is good signing, you know, twenty-five girls. It's all right. Stanley Cup is on he's like, he sucks defensively you don't wash your hair out and he gets all of his offense because he plays like 78% of the power plant minutes on on Florida. He's going to get those is he going to get those at the brunch? And if he's on the top powerful unit number you put them on the net front that's not where the brunette generate all their chances are. It's not going net-front. You still even with Kruger you still probably going bumper you still going a guy, you know at the left elbow like pasta still going to be the left circle like it's not like they're going to change their whole D chord structure around to suit and Mike Hoffman. I don't understand the whole Allure with Hoffman. I mean the guys had a lot of had some problems in the past with some teammates. I know that doesn't make everything but that's something and you'll add on top of the fact that he is just this offensively Dynamic guy his shots really good like Bruce. So this on the other day off. No, the fact that his goals are so much higher than his expected goals has a problem like that doesn't age. Well, you know, you can't be scoring a bunch of Snipes and one-timers until you're like, oh, you know late in your into your Midway like Ovechkin, right? Yeah, unless you're Alex Ovechkin and he's nice to have that. Yeah. So is Mike Hoffman Alex Ovechkin my column off but that's sort of the thing is in in the holder with Dad enough to I don't know a heck of a lot about Dad enough. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I'm a dad not an expert can't smell dad without dad in off I guess so big maybe there's that I got to make that joke a lot if he comes to the Bruins, but I don't think it's I don't think he's much of an upgrade in that regard and he gets a lot of his like chances off the rush and stuff and he's helped out a lot by faith is played. I think like you look at his numbers and I mean, it's like a no shit Sherlock kind of stabbed like, you know, when he's playing with barkov and Huberdeau the stats a gray when he's not it off. Off anything else would help said he has like another playmaking guy on the wing and Huberdeau probably one of the better pastures. I mean probably him in March and probably the best passing left Wings the game probably wage and so you put them with you know, it depends on where you kind of slot him in the lineup, but is he fit with the guy like crazy or when he's got another guy like Kasha who also likes to Pat who else likes to shoot too so long that it seems kind of weird in terms of dad and off and he's 31 coming from a kid show fee is back had a great first year this year. We kind of took a step back, you know, it's not and you know, you sign up for you these guys who are out there. It's not like you were looking for like, you know game-breakers or anything like that. Like they designed to fully you know, I'm not certain be a thirty goal scorer, but you'd probably pencil in Fort Worth a goals, you know, 14515 goals or something like that and helps you out a lot, you know, but If you know Craig Smith is your only upgrade again. I think we both love Craig Smith and what he brings to the team, but it you know, you're still running a lot of risk in terms of getting all you cannot wage that whole lineup and especially now where I mean the decoy went from being like a very good very promising unit that again McEvoy can be a lot better. Next year been in college can be a lot better next year. There's a bunch of guys that can improve it's like proof. Yeah, Grizzly can improve but still like it's still a few guys on that don't even say we claim does not fit a colleague a rookie or a guy like that, you know in that role but you look at how if you these last scenes that have been in the Cub for the Cup Final have gone they'll kind of follow the same template like Campbell was a wagon, right? They've got skill all over but I'm a big D core up to get inside against and you got a good a good goalie Who's elevated to Elite status? Cuz they're not getting anything past them. St. Louis huge Decor not now fully. Yeah exactly. Goalie who should his pants this year last year was Elite because you couldn't get anything by them cuz the trans hello, you had Franco bouwmeester all those guys, right Edmondson Gunners them. Look at Dallas. I mean it's going into like not a physical guy, but he's like 61 Lyndell Jamie. Oleksiak all those guys. Nothing inside like you notice you notice a trend here. It's like, oh, I think I notice a trend again. It's not even that like the same argument right where it's you know, they need to get a bunch of big goons or something. You have to get everyone who's six six. You have to get like all Alexia to you know granted. He's he's bigger. He's better than a big, you know doofus out there, but you don't have to like suck it up and get just big guys and not guys around but you also can't have three or four of your guys be, you know, five eleven Playmakers you guess you have to get something there, right? We also do know Jake by the way off. All yeah, he's I mean, he's six six feet five below. I don't I don't think he is someone can correct me on this. I don't believe he is so, you know Swedish talked about visible and it's like so you're going to roll out as Borel Chara crystallic or you know, and also the other thing yeah, the answer having signs of damage are yet, so yeah besides they don't know yet. So, you know charging it should be back in eynon. Grizzly ends of oral. I mean your left side even with Chara it's not looking super promising now, we're both high on grill six potential. But again, it's all potential wage. It's not you're not going into the season with definites on your left side. At least that's what it feels. Like in that to me is an issue and this leads me to my next point the Atlantic division got a whole lot better in the past few days and burns really have it you go team-by-team in the lightning or the lightning. They just want to come they had to put Johnson on waivers that team's good. No matter what maybe let's go out and get TJ Brodie. They I don't think they got that much better off. I don't think they like improved. That much is a good sign. He he fits better. I agree from Barry but still angry. Yeah, you're not you didn't get a sure-fire number one defenseman that you needed. So to me, I don't think they got that much better. But still they improved TJ Brodie I think is a little bit of an upgrade for maybe a Tyson Barrie at least in that system and then you can go down the list. I mean the Habs got a ton better Josh and person and and and Tyler toffoli that a great draft and then you have the Senators who aren't going to be a threat now, but drafted really well have not married since not going to be as easy the you know, it's going to be easy to beat them now potentially they probably will ask you Claire, but they're going to be better in the future. The Red Wings are going to be better in the future the Sabres just got Taylor Hall, you know, I mean granted we don't offer in your face. They're they're going to lose every game 7 to 4, but at least you know, Taylor Hall will get us 42 goals and the market next year when the Caps flat again because you can't go to an arena until 2022 off. All on trying to Corner the market there Taylor always trying to play a Chess World playing checkers, I guess. Yeah, that's a big the Taylor Hall thing made sense. I mean she makes sense. I guess if you want to boost up on your calories, if you're trying to find the rationale, it's their of playing with eichel, you know is Ralph Krueger and he's gonna probably get 40 goals or Thirty point five goals and and eighty points. He's going to get F at but I don't know how he's going to get paid next year cuz the cap is not expanding the revenue by the way. I'm like thirteen million dollars. Yeah. It's that's what it's going to end up being going to be so delicious a team with no goaltending and Rasmus dahlin is going to get sick and probably wants out and grown even be able to pay him at least do a new contract anyway, so it's funny that the cities that Taylor Hall is played in Edison, New Jersey Arizona. Wow, I mean that is like instead of pick them apparently, so who but I mean, I just couldn't believe it, you know, and I think not a lot of money. Could but again, it's I guess to play with Michael and I think also Buffalo did it from a standpoint of we need to satisfy Jack eichel. I think that was the whole rationale behind the move in this does I mean like Taylor Hall she is going to be a fun tandem to watch. It's just I would rather not have to watch the rest of the team. As I said on Twitter. They're the they're the Walmart version of of the Maple Leafs. Yeah, you know some awful doctor offense. They also have Eric Staal defensively in goaltending not so much so but they're still better and that's still not going to be an easy team to beat but I talking to a neighbor start going to be as easy to play as they have been in the past for the Bruins. So you could still active in getting better, you know, you have the Senators and Redwings getting much better for the future saying with the Canadians the the team's beliefs and the lightning at the top are still, you know, probably going to be in the playoffs at least the lightning we can bet on and it seems like the Bruins are kind of Treading water and the division now, they're still good. I still think they're a top-three team in the Atlantic no doubt, but I don't know things aren't a lot know. I mean also we talked about this every single year, but you know, you've got the luxury of having a great top-line a great veteran Corps. But what is the year when you know, it's inevitable when Bergeron's growing limits him to 35 games or David krejci skills start declining, you know, like it's it's going to happen sooner or later right wage going to get a lot of mileage on them and you haven't done pretty much anything other than getting Craig Smith who again is good player, but that's not enough that's going to supplement what happens when one of these guys takes a step back or you'll have to you know, add other Talent kind of supplement what you've lost and especially you look at that D Corps, man. I mean that left side is not looking like too great right now in terms of just projecting going into the year and I mean even look beyond the Atlantic man like Joe sakic has been running train on everyone this entire off. He's incredible. I recently Making everyone movie making is they're hitting out of the park and you got them. You got Vegas. You got all these teams that are just loading up right now and those that seem to think that's gay. You know, it's Tampa seems out west that are kind of sitting there and it's what are the Bruins doing to kind of counter that one you letting all these deals for good value too. It's not like they're letting to fully sign a a five years Thirty million dollar contract and they're sitting out of that. You know, it's like you heard of letting these guys in a bootleg, you know trash market and you've got the cap space to at least be plays for you might have to move some pieces around down the road, but you know These Guys these guys are signing at this point now and it just kind of passing you by that's what's a little concerning is the fact that they have this catalog they have about eleven million in cap a little bit over According to cap-friendly which God bless cap-friendly. They really have three things. They have to do this offseason re-sign grisak re-signed debrusk and potentially re-signed chod. Cuz girls like in Russia are faced to our UFA. So let's say hypothetically targets 1.5 a year will be nice will save you know, one point five for the one year. We have to brush. Let's say 3 a.m. Let's go low and say 3 what you going to be 3.5 or 3. It could be more very fine 5 3.75. So I'm sure you'd like more but we'll say 3.5. So 3.5 baths 1.5 is a is is five. So that's five million right there plus. Let's say three four grzelcyk. You have eight million. So that gives you about 3 million to play with in cap space. And then if you can unload contracts you can unload John more to someone who can take him that gives you maybe 5 to 6, so there's ways to use this cap space. And it feels like they're not going to use it. It feels like they're not going to use that extra cap space now again, we there's always it's like this feels like and I always give these like weird analogies there Colin Cowherd way of life things and in in real life and real life terms. It feels like Christmas this offseason was going to feel like Christmas going in you had the draft were big things could happen you had free agency were big things could happen. If the trade market where big things could happen with regard to the Bruins draft comes and they going to trade Rask know he's saying which good great by the way Great Piece by Steve. Konroyd last week and Harold on Thursday or ask stuff. So draft comes nothing happens to make a trade with the Maple Leafs just drop seventh-round picks free agency comes nothing happens. They re-signed Kevin Miller signed Craig Smith. But then as Torey Krug leaves, they hold the Kevin Miller press conference as the news is happening, which was interesting. So you have that so you you re sign off. Ben Miller lose crew which you expected and you signed Craig Smith. Nothing. Nothing crazy. No fireworks and it's like we keep getting let down. It's like, you know Christmas Christmas Eve. Nothing happens Christmas morning the president's weren't that great parents weren't that great to us, but then we get grandma's later or we got like, you know, the aunts and uncles later who have presents that's like the trade market. Maybe there's something there. Maybe there's a big present to unpack or maybe there's nothing and it feels like there's nothing cuz this the traits are happening now, you know, by the way, I love the the you mentioned the Joe sakic screwing everybody over the black box is turning our County Panera Nikita zadorov off and respect but good job guys. I just look at what's going on this offseason and it's like these own kind of obvious moves. It feels like unless unless they really feel that they want to that. They don't really feel like they can contend for a cup next year. Into that case I say well then what are you doing? And that's and I think that if that's the case of wanting to trade Christian Rask when you get a chance for six even yes, ma'am, so that's the thing should have but I don't think they should have either I mean again, I think they should be going for a cup. You have to get these course you don't come around often. And by the way, the Craig Smith signing is great about it is I mean, maybe they feel like he's a second line right winger. But here's another thing that John Sweeney always mentioned same with Cassidy always mention this with everything and they've of the internal competition. They love there's something about it. They just loved it. It is it is exciting to them and they love the internal competition. And when you add Craig Smith to the mix, you know, we've met before lots of times you have Craig Smith Jake debrusk Andre Kasha Nick Ritchie Anders Bjork now Jackson Nika all battling for left-wing dead. right-wing left-wing right-wing spots on the second and third line I think they like that I think in their minds they think he'll yes let them play so hard that it doesn't even matter if they have chemistry or not. They're going to play so hard that they bow for a spot and it feels like that hasn't worked in past years. What has worked is the consistency is knowing who the second line right winger is which they haven't in a long time or knowing who the third line right-wing or left-wing is dead don't have that and again, that's why you have an eighty-two Game season. I don't know if this this year's probably not going to be any true games. Hopefully, hopefully not. No, I agree with you. I hope it is and I hope it's more that in the ballpark of like 4 or 4:45. I look at that. I think God damn. That's everything we said was going to happen with them standing Pat just like it's happening. Yeah, I mean listen, you know, we're being critical now and I think it's warranted based on you know, the window this team guys. That's what this guy's phone number. and you know what we can look back on this and if we are in June and life is potentially back to normal and the Bruins are in the Stanley Cup Final and with Craig Smith scored 25 goals and ricotta has 25 goals and checks Anika is a call two finalists and back on his average in 1830 a game and he has 15 points off at thirty points and all this works out that would be fantastic and I would love to be proven wrong in terms of you putting all your eggs in the basket of these younger players and hoping that they're going to bail you out or off a guy's like, you know, Smith and Kasia but You know, it's you're hoping for a whole lot of 50/50 bets to follow you away. It's like and they haven't been yeah and just reality. It's like hopping on you need your younger players to one year in the league or sudden B. World burners are guys that are going to break through right like it's not fair to expect last year friends of yours come in and give you a 20 goals right like and if he steps up this year and he's got 15 goals and you know, forty-something points. That's great. You know that but I'm renting Jackson each other via, you know, a 40.50 point guy, you know is he's had a good run in the playoffs and he's a talented guy, but I don't know how you're you know, you're putting all that instead of taking advantage of a market that's depressed right now that has guys available for way below the market value and you're one of the few things that had some wiggle room going into it. So I'm home. Look at this top nine, you know Marshawn Bergeron pastrnak. Dabros. Krejci, Kasha. That's your same top six as last year the third line those kind of exciting. I mean coil with Smith on the right. You're cursed Anika maybe on the left. That's not bad. But then it's it's the aspect of it's a it's a solid lineup on paper cuz again Kasha, you know for a full season could be 25 goals for a full season could be consistent next year, you know Bjork could start scoring a lot of kids a lot of what-ifs. Not a lot of definites. Yeah, and that's where you are different than tap. That is where you are completely separated from Tampa in the sense that they don't have a lot of what-ifs. They don't have a lot of codes. They have a lot of dues and we'll definitely and the Bruins don't have any that at least in on those wings with the second and third lines and that's your issue. So again, you got it creative just Smith play with the first line with with Marshawn a Bergeron. Does Poshmark come down cast off the mix and mingle with his lines? So obviously that could happen the one offseason moved though. I'm happy to Bruins weren't really in on was the trans low just cuz now I see the contract and we all kind of go we knew that was coming in new that contract was coming. It's not going to be amazing what it's going to be good the first two or three years and if Vegas gets a cut part of it, I guess nothing matters, but I would not have wanted the Bruins to go after that contract. A lot of people wanted to be alone and rightfully so I mean the guy is top 5 defenses in the league, probably Katie and so, you know having him on the Bruins they can be great. But you have to evaluate the long-term of it off that is not not great. It's like, you know, and we talked about this before it's like when the Red Sox got call crafted like they sign him you like. Oh, yeah, we don't really need him but I mean available and really he's available for a cheap value get them. But you know for the cost you paid for them and for a guy who's a right T. Anyway, you know what? Yeah again, you'll be rent you just woke up there the forward lines and it's a lot of codes and woods go through the declaw right now how its constituted and roll through. Oh, I don't want to look at that. Yeah a lot of bad. I don't want to turn it off. Budget Woods it's like oh shit, you know this is risk, you know, that's not good with that's like Risk in terms of some of the guys you have out there. And again, I would love to be proven wrong if they roll out, you know, those young players who makes all hit the ice running, but I think when you look at what what you're trying to get out of this upcoming season, if you're trying to go for it again, you know, you get what you pay for you get what you put into it and and I don't know man, it's not not ideal. I mean you look at the defense right now Chris McEvoy. Okay? And Carlo sick off or go back in nine, maybe I mean, it's just that is not good. I mean for Morris money, he should be there, but we know that's going to happen and then the third pairing was on and Chara Clifton Chara. Was on in Clifton. I mean like the chart thing is like whatever but I mean the more you look at that if they needed extra cap space you just wouldn't re-sign Chara but they don't seem to be like needing cap space cuz aren't really using it. So it's like well the hell with it. I mean then I guess during which I'm for we're both for for the money, but I mean that D core is not Amazing. I mean d core is nothing that stands out. That's nothing that I mean girls like smaller McEvoy, you know is their number one now Carlo bigger, but on the left side, I mean, you know more is not a particularly huge is not going to clear guys out. Lausanne is tough but not like I wouldn't say it's tough to get inside on at least from what we've seen. Yeah, so young players. So young player, you can't expect out of him. So I mean, you know, this is a very negative episode and we're not usually negative people. We're we're we're we're I think I'm a beacon of optimism and Hope usually we're all positivity over here and we're all positive positive Pals but you look at this crew and it's like oh and and by the way, they're not going to suck. They're not going to be bad roster. Like they're going to make the playoffs. It's just you just going to be out in the second round up again. Like that's where you're at like old goal of this should be an arms race with Tampa Bay and and doesn't mean you have to Tampa has made a lot of moves doesn't mean you don't make a lot of moves. That means you just have to get your rush to be better than Tampa and they try to do that the deadline it didn't work and I haven't really seen a lot of efforts in this offseason aside from Craig Smith. So we'll see it's a it's going to be a long offseason. This is still a long time but feels like the clock running out even though it's been like free agency has been around for like four days. Yeah still that is how it feels Connor Before. I Let You Go. Is there anything you would like to place? Yeah, I mean we're going to have stuff for the entire week in terms of free agency and moves because I'm sure it's going to be something new every single day another grape or something for us to talk about so we'll have stuff off plenty of stuff on a Boston Sports Journal subscribe there. You can follow me on Twitter at, Ryan on the school in ninety-three through all of that and for see a list media, I'm have married off to you burn speed listeners. Have a great rest every week.

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Episode 35: Sonic the Hedgehog

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1:16:45 hr | 2 years ago

Episode 35: Sonic the Hedgehog

"Hi, I'm Ariel Casten Jonathan Strickland and together, we're going to tell you the stories behind some of the biggest triumphs in failures and business. That's right. We're going to explore situations that tested the metal entrepreneurs pivotal moments required. Making tough decisions. We'll be talking about some big companies that everybody knows like Disney LEGO and Harley Davidson and together we try to answer the question. What do you do when you find yourself at the brink? Listen and subscribe at apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Everybody. It is me if you yet again pop it off ticket to another episode of narrative sent pants sitting across from me as always is Roger Craig Smith. Does. And we are joined up top by a man of a million voices. I think I can say a million voices a thousand boy, I bet you don't even know the actual count of all your voices. But we specifically brought him on today because we are covering sonic, the hedgehog who he is and has been for many years. It is Roger Craig Smith. Oh, do you actually know the number of people that you voice? It. Somebody pointed out like a long time ago. One credit on on the show regular show on Cartoon Network that the I think it was behind the voice behind the voice actors website. They they had it listed that. I had done one hundred seventy at characters on that show, which sounds impressive. But it's it's like eventually like taco vendor number four and like school bus guy, and you know, like random, you know, like mall patron, they all kind of stays like dude what the same thing. But it was kind of funny when well that's kind of crazy that was like that's gonna go on my bio it's like in one production line. But I have no idea. I have not yet. Did you focus on the regular show? I didn't I was a resort Fronton. Jobbers Thomas the intern. Oh, man. What's the now? I was going to say south desire, but is upheld. As are what was the alma others. There were so many. Yeah. Seven. Out of their eight seasons. I was in seven before they went to space guys survived. But so yeah, it was Thomas and like, oh, but just a whole Messa characters and so much fun. Yeah. Garrett Garrett Bobby Ferguson giant beard face junior. Yes. It was a blast. I love that show. So this is just a just nerdy. Almost insider baseball question. But when you started where you always Roger Craig Smith or where you Roger Smith and sag was like, we we got them knowing that was Roger Smith before sag because I went to go register my name when I was doing standup I want to go register my my website. And I was like I'll just go with Roger Smith dot com. That's a hotel. A hotel in New York City called the Roger Smith hotel sounds like regal. Gosh, I guess it is like a really nice place. I have to go stay there as McGill Cem choking in. But that was taken. And and then eventually when what ended up happening is I was going to go with like Roger C Smith. And and they said no that's too much like Roger Gwen of your Smith who Roger g Smith. I want to hear another really funny story about that. He someone told me this years after I had already been narrating say the dress right that they said, you know, you aren't the first narrator for the show. And I was like what? And they they go actually we've never even. I don't always way. We didn't tell you this. But they said somebody got their wires crossed at the network, and it was all your auditions and all kind of stuff, but when they went to go book, they saw Roger c Smith and he booked Roger g Smith, so he showed up, and they're like, and they had them do like one episode or to episodes before the people on the other end of the line were like he sounds different though. I know I think must've I guess they just really love my work because he's a gifted actor. And yes, it seems like a very nice, man. I've never met the guy. But so funny. So that. Invigoration of Roger g Smith to closer. They said you can go with Roger Craig Smith. So. Yeah, that's what it started. No wonder sack sag wanted me to be Danny Maria Fernandez. And I said, no. And I was Danny m Fernandez because there's another Dani Fernandez n n y I don't know what he's doing with his life. Right. Ruined. My. That's the crazy thing about it. Is it could be someone who like did like it? You know, all my children like yet one. Yeah. Exactly online because they're in it. They locked down that name in that great. I didn't have to worry, dude. So I hope they don't confuse. You know what I mean? I don't know if they don't think so I was gonna say we should go with like hashtag Dani Fernandez ruined my life. But audio you know, it's like NY for what happened is. I was. Yeah. So I they were like I was like I can't keep my name. And they were like just go with Danny Murray. So I did. And then I was just afraid because I'm friends with people like, I don't know if you know comedian, Jessica Michelle singleton, she she goes by Jessica, Michelle. And I was afraid people would call me Danny Murray. Like that would do people call you Roger Craig get Craig? I get I get Robert Smith, which is hilarious. A singer from the cure, not quite I do cry. Yeah. So I was essentially scared that so now, I'm Michael Jordan. I'm Michael J, FOX. Yeah. Exactly. What's I never knew? That's why that exists so much the three name thing in Hollywood is based upon the union biscuits. And that we we don't want the confusion for. Yeah. All your urine. Actual 'cause they always say that that might happen. But you have now proven that that doesn't fact happen. So I told you Bryan, Bryan, Bryan, Bryan. I have a buddy whose stage name is Brian Brian because he he had that situation happened where you had to change his name. But everything he submitted. The just kept being like. Nope. You can't. No. You can't. He was like all right. Well, Bryan, Bryan. Yeah. Like that's actually available. He's like all right. Let's go with them. Bryan. Bryan. Bryan, bryan. Yeah. But that's sad. Danny Danielson Danielson. We're we're talking about sonic the headshot. Yes. Oh, man, sonic. You know, that was that was probably my second game because everyone else start with Mario than it. True. The and got the Genesis true. Dude. But yeah, no, it was it was great. Roger what was your first or earliest memory of sonic? You know, what probably being seeing it in a store like in a store because you know, the the sixteen bit blast processor and all that kind of stuff right wh-? It was I mean, you would see that side scrolling game like on a demo motor something at a toy store. And I just remember thinking man that's fast. I mean, it really was one of those things that you just went that. I've never seen video games move that quick. Because even Mario brothers was still relatively slow as far as the side scrolling Harrison. Yeah. And watching the whole screen move. And watching the character, I would say it was probably my first exposure my first memory that. I know was seeing like a demo mode of of sonic, the hedgehog there's playing on like a tube TVs and and just going dang. They're getting quick. I didn't have a Genesis growing up until I was in my early twenties. Yeah. My brother, I think they had one at like the Y that we used to play. And then my brother got when my brother, my older brother, always got all the cool like I got like Barbie dolls, and like Barbie houses, and he would get all the gaming consoles, which then I would like commandeer, of course. And that's why I am the way. I am now. But no, I mean, really if my parents hadn't gotten it for him, even let's very sexist whatever hadn't gotten it for him. He also I remember when he got a Super Mario sixty four a member him getting sonic, the hedgehog and playing that. But if we wanted to get into how sonic the hedgehog came to be sonic, if you have been living under a rock and don't know who he is is technically a media franchise that was created and produced by Sega, it started as a video game franchise centering on a series of speed base platform games where sonic the protagonists is an anthropomorphic blue hedgehog with SuperSonics ruby. Yes. Tip. Weekly sonic, usually along with some of his friends such as tails, Amy knuckles who will get into and a must stop antagonists. Dr Edmonds plans for world domination new. Yeah. She didn't read that. She literally was locked with icon. The entire time. She memorized all of that. That's amazing. But the the funny thing is like he calls them egg, man. But that's the nickname. His name is Dr robotic right? The initial name of sonic. Are back. Concept of it can like how like what was it? I was at like a Mickey Mouse started off with the first Disney character was was the rabbit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oswald the rabbit. I always heard that the the initial name was Mr. was based on a sketch that one of the creators did of Mr Needle mouse. Yeah. It was called Mr Needle wasn't his name. Yeah. I should know this yet why that became I don't know but time so knuckles. You were saying I I'm given Dr robot next holding Ivo Cleese Roger anytime that you know, anything feel free to okay about this Trump stuff. Co they're like, please. Daily daily. Thrill you should. Oh, God clinical podcast that we have here every day. Zeitgeist five days a week. So the first game in the series was released in nineteen ninety one which turn wouldn't see until what a decade later, sadly played it. I just never had. I never had my own console like whenever we to play it with like, friends or go. Yeah. My buddy, Scott, my buddy, Scott had had the sky. But you know, why he earned? There's always that one kid. I know that we didn't have I don't know if I think I've said this, but my family didn't have Mario Kart. We had Diddy Kong racing. That's my jam. I'm like where are the misfits where the like rejected, you know, lower class forgotten. So that's me my family had. Yeah. Racing. And the cool kids, you know. Varney had Mario Kart home. But it was crazy because you know, sonic was at the time the mascot for Sega. And that's it. So that's what you got Sega for the same way. Where you got like a SNES to play Super Mario? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You were word kidding. I need to play that Doku. Gotta put my gun up again screen, even though it doesn't work that way because a camera. But yeah, so everyone who had a Genesis was doing that. This was then sonic drops three years after me and Danny born. Thanks, guys. Thanks for that. It's near. Gifts in tradition for me to shoehorn subway distance of the origin of from now. He's done it with things in the fifties. He'll be like forty. Yeah. Yeah. What I was gonna say is what you were saying is that it was Sega's mascot. It was actually a rival. They wanted to rival tune in ten does character. Mario and that's house on it came to be. And then it successfully spawned many sequels and the series had a ton of spin offs that is sold over eighty nine million physical copies as of March twenty eleven which is longtime ago crossed over to five billion dollars by twenty fourteen and as of two thousand eighteen the series has shifted eight hundred million unit. If if you know, they just they just announced that on their little of the sonic the hedgehog Twitter account, which is very funny. People should fall the the actual sonic, the hedgehog Twitter account is very funny. Allen denton. Yeah. The writers wanted to work together is really. Yeah. Break is super. I'm only saying this because he tweeted this at when I announced that I'm in Ralph breaks internet, which are as plain sonic reprising her role because you were in the original Reckitt. Ralph Allen was like what Danny we used to rate list of goals together. Right for like a comedy site, which shall not be named back. When we were just, you know, I'll speak for myself struggling writers. And so we would write listed goals like twenty nine bridesmaid fails. Is that the term for those things? Yeah list. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Because those things are addictive. You get on a good one. Oh, man. Yeah. No. It's the worst times Justin Bieber posed in front of a Honda Civic. Oh, man. There was a speaking of today in the BuzzFeed slack. We found someone put an AI bought who like read a whole bunch of BuzzFeed articles, okay and made their own BuzzFeed articles in everyone's like, you know, we we might have to use some of these for the last because I'll just read off a few people recreate they'll secret lipstick easy. Veggie packed veggies. Buzzfeed employs read for the first time. Ten people you won't believe actually, existing exactly. Like ten this nine reasons, you should eight examples. I can't do that. Oh, man. Yeah. Today, you just get caught up any financial much show. Matt Allen was a writer on sonic, boom. Involved with. But yes, so the franchise has gone onto a BTV shows anime in a comic book series recognized as the longest running based on a video game by Guinness world records that crazy. Cool, isn't it? Yeah. And then in two thousand five sonic was one of the first game character inductees into the walk of game, which is essentially the walk of fame alongside Mario in link on nice link link good old lingo link people. What people don't know is links name is actually Zelda. Is it really interesting? Made link changed. So there was there was an episode of. I love Lucy that had link. Yeah. So have to go to sell. So we're gonna move on to some of the characters for sonic, and I have a whole list of what sonic is, but Rogers since you place on it. And I thought it'd be best if you describe him his characteristics. His personality like has that changed through the years at all? Or is he kind of always been the same, dude? I don't know. I mean, I guess what's funny because my I I always just think of like the the iconic sort of like a visual representation of sonic when you would stop playing the game. If you left the character idle the foot would start tapping. You like what gives let's go. So there was always that kind of cocky, kind of self assured sort of attitude, and we've played that ever since I've been voicing since two thousand ten and when I went into auditioned for it back, then they were still showing some of the previous animation to kinda give us an idea of like the character. What had been done sort of like in canon kind of thing. This is where it sort of this is where the character kind of exists. We're trying to keep it in that realm. But do something a little different in that kind of thing. So I don't know that he's changed all that much. Although with sonic, boom. We were playing more like the comedic side of things. Yeah. That's fine. It was more fun. Because it was you couldn't just have them fight every single episode and have that sort of thing. So it was we changed it for that. But for a lot of the games, we've always just sort of stuck with the sort of hero whose cocky and self assured and has some good little one liners, and but he's very loyal to his friends, and he's very likable. Yeah. But I feel like that's really important because I feel like his cockiness could be I don't know. Even you're seeing which we can't really talk about too much. I don't wanna spoil it. But even you're seeing Ralph breaks internet. He's still kind of that, dude. But I like lap like you love him. No good. That would be the writing for one. But then there's yeah, there's a fine line. I mean, the there's a fine line between like somebody who's just era Ghent versus somebody who self assured or you know, and but has a little bit of the the jock kind of cockiness to him. But I mean as a character he can back it up. You know, he's he's the blue blurs. You know, he's good. I like the thing you pointed out which is in the game. They had the foot tapping mechanism to kind of give you an idea. And I think there was a lot of character that you were able to see from the first games because you had sonic kind of cocky running through beaten up Dr robot. And then you had like tails who always seems so worried all the time who was worry wart. And he's like, no, no you fell off. Let me care you back up. Yeah. I know. So I feel like the first time you got like a hard and fast idea of the characters was sonic adventure. Because that was like really the first time you kind of interacting as certain characters and you're able to choose like, Amy knuckles tails, a big cat. I think that's his name. If I remember. Greg cat, big big cat cat big that a cat. That's even catchier though. Yeah. Big the cat. I mean, then you have the early series two. I'm jumping around a bit only because I want to ask this question. How hard was it? Filling the sues of ninety sensation. Jalil one. Let's be honest. Those shoes are constantly exponentially ever expanding. Shoes. You know? That's that's the that's always an honor to get to voice any care to that's been done even by somebody who's done it before. Yeah. And we're talking about something that's lasted for so many years now to be a part of that legacies. Like, it's just cool. I mean, and it's not as if I walk in everyday going like how would you Lille do? Yeah. Exactly. I probably should maybe the fans would like it better. No. It's that that to me is like one of the neatest little sort of like legacy or aspects of this legacy is just gonna go in man urkel started off doing this kind of cool because it's like, yeah. It's and I've talked to somebody who recently said like, oh, I know I know Jalil I should ask him like, you know, what what it was like. And then it'd be fun to get like Jason and Ryan and Jalil and everybody together in kind of sit down like a podcast someday. Gosh about it, but sonic head. Yes. The fan base might go insane with that. But. Sonic roundtable, the sonic down. Yeah. Keep tapping a going round round round. And that's a good segue into that feature being introduced in sonic, the hedgehog two which is crazy because I always remembered always being able to do that. But no, the down tapping a where you spin get that boost was actually introduced in sonic, the hedgehog spin dash. As the spin spin dad, also, sonic, the hedgehog two was introduction of miles. Yeah. His miles per hour. Right. Yes. And I didn't know this. But it was miles per hour is a play on miles per hour. Look me and Ron today. Years old really today years old Roger white into what? No, no is like. Yeah. Meaning like today is the day. You learned that. Oh, absolutely. No. New now. I mean, what's even crazier to is. Like that. You said is government name. Someone is Berman. Watch lists. I give. That is a thing that I I as I get older, I'm learning isn't something everyone says, but like growing up like in Compton, Long Beach or just anywhere where people have nicknames. If say their real names, like call me by my government name on a funny. They wanna be called by their. Yeah. Who towns referring? Mph? That's that's what tails would be like. Yeah. Why are you calling? Government should have been Sonics name, though, when you think about speed in my for our should have been he should have been miles the head job. Yeah. Miles per hour. The hedgehog our I love it. So yeah. So while many individuals that say had a hand and Sonics creation. It was actually programmer usually knock and now Toshiba who was an artist who are basically genitally credited as the creator of the character, basically many results were coming from from their experiments with different character designs because they were trying to find like we said earlier a competition for Mario and one was like an Armadillo who was later developed into mighty the Armadillo a dog, which was like Theodore Roosevelt, look alike in pajamas. So funny. Jacksonville has Theodore Roosevelt die. Yeah. Well, he's a president. Well, they went and took that they're like instead of making FDR. Thinking wrong road. Rail different just in looks. He was known as Theodore Roosevelt. Yeah. But they used to actually Theodore Roosevelt's designed for Dr robotic call. I do know that makes perfectly good sense. When you see the? In the tub all the time. No, that's Taft ever mind. Minds me of Potter from. It's a wonderful life, Mr. Potter. It does doesn't he that a Wilford brim Bramley from like cocooning? Yeah. I could see that. And then they had a rabbit who use the extendable ears to collect objects in which was later. Oh corporation to restare. But then basically knowledge oh took some of these internal designs with him on a trip to New York City and basically wanted some feedback from random random people on the street. That's how they did it back in the day before the art, exactly. On the street, which are and if someone would take it from you, and that was a reposted when someone stole your walked around asking people tweet. Sweet. What what was a crime is now in this and he was doing this in central park. And then there was a writer who saw him doing this. It was like this guy needs some friends. And then next thing, you know, he wrote the script of friends. I didn't know what you're going. I could tell we were going along. Singer. I was not. Yes, Andy like, where's he going? And that's when we got. So he he showed people his designs of his spiky -til hedgehog code-named, Mr Needle mount you'll need minister because I believe it. Didn't it translate directly into that wasn't there? I I wanted to say that that there was something in Japanese that became needle mouse. Like that like it translated directly into I don't know about that. But I do know something like that. I'm sure the internet will correct correct me. There's your hashtag Dani Fernandez. You want so kit soon, I think I'm saying that right? As a Japanese FOX that was that's what miles is. So an eight year old kit soon with tales, hence, the nickname. Okay. I don't know you were close. Roger I was so much. We try to get there. You're trying to make me feel better about this. But I say let me go under the IRS in the internet will just have their field day with me. I did want to say that. Yeah. So it's onic was detailed to have in quote, cool attitude represented of the United States at the time. Nothing's changed where like here minds me of crap. When my forget a high Sebok's like the he's like the pit Amee of Mr. cooler, something funny. Okay. Sonics blue pigmentation was chosen to match Sega's cobalt blue logo, very cool shoes evolved from a design inspired by Michael Jackson votes with the addition of the color red, which was inspired by both Santa Claus. And the contrast of those colors on Jackson's nineteen eighty-seven album, bad bad. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's why he's. It's just like what is cool in America. Yeah. Teddy roosevelt. Michael Jackson shoes. I thought I read something similar to where they were talking about the significance of that character of sonic, actually, tapping his foot and looking at it was the first time that they'd seen like an actual video game character convey. Yeah. Like, a personality of sorts everything else up until like because when you think about when you play Mario, you don't really you. Don't really feel like oh Morio. Is this just that's the he here we go. And even then like early on never even said anything just kind of like, you know, the early sonic the hedgehog character. But, but it's funny to think like that would have been that would convey something like a personality of this thing that you're playing whereas up until that point we were sort of disconnected from what we're doing. Yeah. He's sitting there. He's like, hey, I got places to be. Yeah. It was that Roger me people don't know. So good. Easy. What he was going to come in. And write a theme song for friends. Good. See that seamless you can wear anything really one thing. I also like is they said his personality was based on then presidential candidate later, president of the United States Bill Clinton's get it done attitude during nine hundred ninety two presidential campaign, and I'm gonna just leave the low hanging fruit air, but know. Get it done attitude. To help sell the idea to Sega's higher ups Shema pitched the concept frame by fictional fighter. Pilot that had earned the name hedgehog do a spiky hair. He's an actual head because he was a fighter pilot who earned the nickname, call sign hedgehog. Oh, yeah. Oh man was already taken. And it was like couldn't be imagined Yanko with the world's at sonic the goose. Yeah. What was that? Like, what would that even sound talk to me, sonic? If you don't know if you know this, but the original concepts gave sonic fangs and put them in a band with a human girlfriend may Madonna while. I hope you're learning. A lot about yourself hilarious. I love it. I love this lore behind sonic. However team from Sega of America was like, no. Led by Madeline. Schroeder calls herself Sonic's mother. I did not know that I did not know softened the character up for an American audience by removing those elements things. Donna sparked a heated issue with the sonic team. And knock a later mid that it was probably for the best. So that's how we just want him to have grew front xactly and Madonna and new coq whatever super popular. I love it. He was going to be like, Joe manganiello and true, blood or something. Yeah. Yeah. And then to them we have miles which I don't wanna pass over too much. It's his best friend again. Like, we said miles per hour. How now that it's going to stick with me for? Yeah. Yeah. You'll never see trails the same way. So tales was rated that miles tails wave Finkel is I in horn horn, his Finkel tales was raided the third most popular character in the franchise, and that's sonic and shadow. Official guests that is the lie. You think second I think second hands down this new show shadow? Maybe it's because I was like older when shadow came along with that be. But I was always like, sonic entails. But if not tails knuckles, how how is knuckles getting beat out by shadow like, this is definitely these kids in their roadblocks and fortnight doing this. Wow. This thing you're darn kids. So the other the other main character, Dr robot, Nick, how would you describe him to people that don't know we say, this is a podcast for everyone. So even if people have never watched sonic. He's he's oh gosh. He's the he's the joker to Batman. He's the some people just want to watch the world burn. He's always out to just total global universal domination wants to rule everything. And he's always got this evil army of robots of things that he's creating and now, obviously we've had fun with it. Sonic, boom universe with you know, they never always seems to work out all that well for him. But no, that's them and their archenemies. Yeah. And that's and he's just he's just a very very bad. He was either hugged too much. Child. Yes. And he just wants to rule the universe. That's so fascinating. Because if he is the joker to sonic, technically loves him. I think he does secret down. No, I think I think there's a there's an affection there. That's interesting jealousy. Maybe more than anything maybe more jealousy than than than actual affection. Probably the deepest we've ever delved into the. I'm really dynamic. Oh, yeah. Dr robot Nick, I was gonna say we we do here. We do deep dives and then knuckles. Who is an kidner-? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. He's basically I'll give you a rundown on knuckles. Basically the best character in this. The franchise. He's read my favorite color. We have someone right? White here. Look, I love you. Roger. All right. His love knuckles more. He used his fist. I related to that. As a angsty teen. I was like, yeah. And his hair kind of had that EMA swoop to we know you're a huge fan of friends thing. He watched France all the time. Yeah. I'll be there for you. It's okay. I like that played. Nothing's debuted on the hedgehog three in one thousand nine hundred four after Dr egg man tricks him into opposing sonic and tails, and that was like that first of the bad guy who turns out to be the good guy. This is like the cool version of Geeta. He I. Verse became playable, and sonic and knuckles, which was insane. If you remembered it because sonic, and nobles was a cartridge would would've cartridge slot in it because you're able to put the cartridge from sonic three insana could knuckles and play sonic three as knuckles, which was wild. Because I was like doing that's tight, and my parents know, I form of inception within a game. Yeah. It seems that sonic entails after learning of eggnog trickery and kind of goes to kick his, but one thing I don't want to skip when we're talking about sonic that was real cool. At least for me is sonic goes super sane, right? Yeah. Because he gets the when he goes supersonic. He gets gold. He has the floaty hair our franchise and our franchise I feel like have a lot of overlapping fan of art. I'll for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I see a lot of like supersonic art, like super say in sonic, art, funny. I also see a lot of other. I see a lot of pregnant sonic. Chuck. Like that on this doesn't live on the internet. I see it on my side of the weird internet. I know that you're getting you Sonics tumblers very fast in eight any Marie you're making this making this all thought. Government tumbler, Zebian artly, deviant, art pictures. Well, yeah, I will say just like Geeta the overlaps continue knuckles was created by developer Takashi Yuda in never was intended to be more than a supporting character. He was basically put in sonic, the hedgehog three as an intimidated because powerful Bility's and people saw that dude was like he is cool. Don't take them away from us and just like accusatory. I'm a Hughes like alright. And then he wanted to throw a Madonna. Oh, yeah. I guess who would have been big at the time. I got. Exit. All right. It's been a long today. News. We have just one other. I mean, there's a bunch of sonic catches. But just one other one that I wanted to mention was Amy rose who is a pink anthropomorphic hedgehog driven competitive personality, who's infatuated with sonic. She serves as the first playable female character in the series. What we forgot to mention his knuckles, or maybe you did knuckles was introduced in sonic, the hedgehog three and nine four when you are doing this. Roger are y'all ever in the same room getting to when we did sonic, boom. The animated series we recorded it as an ensemble cast. And it was always a ton of fun. It was always a blast. So fun. We really did have a lot of fun making that show. But, but for video games is almost always you're always going solo is that typical for a lot of cartoons those tonight about I it just depends. So a lot of power puff girls in the same room to good. Yeah. My good friend, Natalie Palomino. Yes. Who's extremely phony talented. Holy no. But I've heard about her solo show Kate makuuchi who I work with on the internet kitty one she went and supported Natalie and seeing that now did she was describing and I'm like, it's just incredible. What it makes such good sense? Italy's amazing. Yeah. That's. That's. Well, well, you know, friends. Yeah. The, you know, keep going to that. Well, I don't go to the discount Ben in fine Ross's on now. With that one. I think that it's time that we take a break. Let people recuperate after now call it will catch you after this break. Hi there. I'm Josh Clark of stuff, you should know. And I've just released a new ten part podcast series called the end of the world with Josh Clark. It's about existential risks all the ways that we humans. My accidents. Wipe ourselves out with the amazing new technology. We're beginning to develop today like artificial intelligence. Sure, it's heavy stuff. But it's also enormously. Interesting stuff and surprisingly the series turns out to be kind of inspiring to search for it on apple podcasts. And check out the reviews from people who are already listening. It also has a lavish soundtrack with sound design by Kevin sons, Ocoee and a beautiful original score by point Lobo. If you're a curious person in a fan of the deep dive, check out my new series the end of the world with Josh Clark. You can find it on apple podcasts the iheartradio app and everywhere you get podcast and join the conversation on social at hashtag e OT w Josh Clark. And we're back and is still here. Thanks. I'm happy to be out. Neak out it leave. He didn't sneak out haven't gotten my parking validated. That's hilarious. We're gonna talk about video games. But I wanted to know what games. Do you must have some of the sonic games? I mean, obviously void. Them. But like what are your do? You have any favorites or that you're currently playing or that you still you know, what I'm not currently playing anything sonic related at this time. I know I'm excited to see. Ralph breaks the internet and that right? But no, I'm not I'm not playing. In fact, I've had to kind of like like my gamer card has been revoked just today like updated my XBox. And I was like man, I haven't played the thing and so long so busy working, man. I know, but it's also just like, it's just sad. You know, that I I haven't been gaming as much as I once did have you ever thought of like going on twitch playing sonic as sonic? I was doing something. I know. But I did I did do a joke recently. I said I think I'm I'm heavily considering doing a twitch of me playing windows ninety five solitaire. Filming someone else's feed while they're playing solitaire on like windows ninety eight and I'm going to livestream. I'm gonna Facebook live the entire thing via periscope. Oh nice. Oh nice. Literally just do a show with thing. No. I actually this is an interesting thing. Like whenever anybody asks you to do something like in the character. It's always like, I I don't own sonic, the hedgehog. I would imagine. I'd probably get myself into some pretty serious hot water. If I was to say, hey, voice of blah, blah, blah. A character own is going to do the character while playing the game. And so I try to be I know. I know I know. And then also like, yeah. Because the company is so big versus like people who have kind of gotten away with it is like, you know, bursar will do like Macree and Sega's like well hold on. We're going to ask Sega Japan and say Japan's like, Nope. You right away. There would be no that was such a knowing quick response as you've. You know, we get this conventions and stuff come up, and like, you know, can you say as they're holding? They're they're they're already recording phone in front of you the, and it's usually like somebody that they don't like who has a YouTube channel. Yeah. Sonic, lover two four nine YouTube, so auction, you hate him like, you know, in your sonic goes. I'm like, no, just go. No. I'm not going to do that. Yeah. Say something like, you gotta go fast or. Already set. Oh, it's funny. Like, I caught some flack on the blue carpet, the red carpet at Ralph breaks the internet for variety had asked me to in the sonic voice. Yeah. Encourage people to go vote and be like oh now getting political. There's nothing political people. That's the funny thing is where it is. Like when people get mad. It was like no that that is the one thing that you that is completely nonpartisan is saying vote. Note. Yes, just enact you're right American. But I'm very aware of the fact that I'm always like doing this. You're part of something much bigger. So great. The characters blue. So he's trying to. Shoes. Red. What is he saying shoes? Great again. Oh, I love the internet. Get off on that. We just. Don't worry. That's me. Okay. All I forget what the original question was. What was that? If you played the video games games. What video games? Do you head? I play sonic. I play all of them done something, I'll play all of them. And I can't even play the retro ones. I've played the the mobile versions of stuff 'cause it's just it's interesting to see how how it changes how it grows and used to kinda, you know, and that was sort of the impetus behind sonic, boom. And and rise of lyric and. Man. I'm already blanking on the other hand held version that that that title. But is that they wanted to kind of make it a little bit more contemporary. So that's trying to get and. And I'm glad you brought that up because I do have some things to say. Oh, boom interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Sonic, lover LV are seven. Fine, sir channel suck. But no, there's some real cool things about boom being contemporary. And how I've seen a lot of boom without actually seeing boom. Because a lot of things have went viral because of how cool and contemporary, and that's all the writers. It's like it's like those guys like doing all the really funny memes and playing with the, you know, breaking the fourth wall and that kind of stuff. Yeah. A few that have gone really viral. Right. His he when he was woke. That was hilarious. So it was hilarious that and that's all that's pure writing. But you your performance at Stewart I want one. So how if somebody didn't? I mean, he has he's very comedic character for sure I was going to say I had one question. I think if he before you go on your do you still collect sonic or tons? Oh, yeah. I to this day in general of the characters that you've voice, do you still like comic con or you'll get for sure for sure let's go we're going to take a step out of narrative and for a few six to go into if if he's corner Oakwell if he's corner. Yeah. Because y'all may not have known this. But I was out on the blue carpet with right with Danny because she was thriving. And that's when I actually I met armand's here. And actually we were chatting and what Roger was stepping on the blue carpet water with were the Puma Sonics. I actually took L on the Puma songs. They did a a pack drop where they had the sonic and knuckles, and you had the Sonics. And I was like so jelly because I wanted him so bad, and they dropped that Comecon. Oh, yeah. Did you have you got a pair of the? Cop them on stock X, especially our stock. Which thirteen okay. We're not gonna. Door gigantic if I'm rather dainty. That was a lot of fun. That was actually to be totally honest to for for walk in the carpet. I contacted my PR lady and said, hey, I've got these shoes that I was nice enough to be given like I'm like a year ago like months ago, it was because I was it around. It was like the. Geico com. Does this year's Comecon that they drop? Okay. So we're talking June, right, July. But I got I got him before. Then I know that got him. I think they might have been last year's coming and I wasn't expecting them. It wasn't anything that it was like, you know. Yes. Would like my free pair of shoes to came in a huge box all end. So all and I was like I'm never gonna wear this one. We're gonna wear these. I gotta wear them to some fan of enter that kind of thing. And all of a sudden, I I was getting the word that we were going to get to Ralph breaks the internet. I went the shoes. Yeah. And I'd contacted the PR people. And I said like we gotta find a way of like really making these shoes pop, but I'm like I want to dress snazzy but have like a hedgehog shoes. And so literally, it was everything was everything was built from the ground up around those shoes are blue, right? Yeah. Exactly. All his designer shoes. Just in case you, okay? Yeah. They on the twelfth of June for the retail price of one thirty on stock ex and my size. They're currently going for three hundred dollars. Are they really? Yep. Yep. Man, I might need to like sign. Yeah. Say they were not valued at. You know? Rogers signed or twelve dollars looks. It was so funny when we stepped out when we were doing the blue carpet or whatever for Ralph because I was like I don't want to go on the fan area. I don't think. Fun. Yeah. If he was like, you'd be surprised, and I stepped out of the car, and it was like, Danny. Until people wanted me to sign their poster. Would it be like I feel like I'm really needed. Not serious Silverman. Not gal. Yeah. So I signed their post or and it's it's funny because I don't know if you've been in the same predicted. I mean, I mean, you're the voice of sonic, and I'm just Boise myself and it for like a minute or two. But what's funny is when I go on these podcasts and people would be like one of the stars of route fast internet on it. You are texting. Gal Gadot, right? Stars anonymous to Raji P Henson and Dani Fernandez, if he did you want to go over some of your favorite game. Yeah. We're just gonna do quick dash all through the games. Because many and I just want to talk about the like huge influential ones instead of just going through all of them that have spanned from nine hundred ninety one to this very year. So you had you know, Sonics one and two two was the game. I. Came the spin dash the wanting everyone played three took it up a notch by introducing knuckles. Really? That's a third character. In this franchise now get to play able to play his tales or miles. If you wanna be Danny when with the second player, and they would be able to run besides you. So that was like the two player aspects. I think the next big game in the series actually came after sonic and knuckles. I didn't realize these were back to back. Always felt there was so much time between them, and there was a sonic in sonic, the hedgehog three trucks in one thousand nine hundred four four years later, we get sonic adventure and sonic adventure came out for the Dreamcast. And it was a moment. Because because the Dreamcast was was hot at the time. It was the reason. Yeah. This was the reason people bought Dreamcast and then introduce that like Dreamcast used to have this. I forget the name of it. But it was like a. She would put in and you put the what is it the child's chows from the game? And you'd be able to take care of it outside of it. So basically, all the all the kids go crazy over the Pok Mon the Poggi ball. Plus that you do we've been on that. Since the school. Yeah. Yeah. We're sounding like old crush. So they're great games after that. Because you had Sonoko six. Yeah. That was your Email, man. Well, we're I'm. No, no, you you're right because you're mentioning the whole thing because sonic fans, which I use the term loosely because this is in very fan fan Centric way to act often time, we'll say that sonic adventure sonic adventure. Two was the last game on whatever sonic. They like was the. But one thing everyone kind of did agree with was sonic, which one was it. Yes. Sonic, rush for the D S, which was not on this list, which makes me smarter than they internet interest. Sonck rush was super fun. And in it, you you played a sonic. And also your counterpart was what was her name blaze the cat, blaze the cat, and it was a very fast paced and fun game. It was an everyone. Agreed. Because you know, I hate when I really like a game. And everyone's like, no you shouldn't lie like that. Luckily that didn't happen with this game, everyone, right? It ahead to fun story looked great. It was such a blast sonic rush. But then knuckles in that. I mean, how could you with it? If your favorite Caretas on it. I guess I guess you're kinda cool. Super cool that you got that you got to play sonic and super smash brothers. Yeah. Cool. It again like. Getting to be a part of something like this like those things just sort of like kind of fall into your lap. Right. Yeah. You know what? I mean. You know what? I mean. It's like. It's like it's one of the things that kind and crossover. Absolutely same thing with same thing with with, you know, record Ralph. Yeah, it was like somebody called up and they're like et Disney ones for something. I was like for what? Wreck it Ralph. And I'm like, okay. Wh what what am I doing? They're like they're doing sonic. I'm like, no somethings wrong, right? Showed up and they're like, yeah. We we wanted sonic the hedgehog, and they're like you gotta use our guy, and it was like all right? Really? So. That was going to be my question on the medicine. Was it a them hitting you up and you needing permission? But so they wanted sonic and Sega was like, Roger I would imagine it was a licensing thing. I mean, I think that's how that works. You know? I mean, obviously, brilliant voice actor. Lucky to have me, regardless. And it's just pure luck. That the licensing no, I actually think that with most of those characters I think that they they mandate that if you know because when you think about something like Disney doing a wreck, it Ralph all those different video game characters if they're going to say, we're going to use your guys or gals. We wanna have the, you know, the characters beyond because they had Kyle Baraz. That's what I was going to go to now, it seems like you're saying you're saying because we'll house now they're like, you're you're sonic, happier. Your son, I mean fr- until I'm not. Once they see you take a selfie with. Mario. Yeah. There you go. It's like, oh, he's doing with channel. And he's he's as the character. We don't allow that. Yeah. Oh my gosh. But yeah, that was pretty much the the games, and then, you know, the first sonic series that we reference with Giulio white was the height of like nineties game when we had your Super Mario movies when you had the Super Mario TV shows me into turtle. They were like this. You need a TV show because games are popping right now. But then after that, you got I think there was the sonic anime series. Flying X. Yes, X. Yes. I remember sonic x because sonic. X was one of those shows that were I was a little too old for that time it came out two thousand and four thousand five which means I was a junior in high school door. I was like. I know how old you like nineteen ninety four. I'm looking here in graduated. But yet video games back. I was in it though. I was like look I don't care what people say I love sonic, Asana anime. Let's go. That's cool. Then then we got the sonic series that that everyone's talking about did. I skip was it sonic extant, sonic, boom. I'm not crazy. No. Yeah. I know I was onto my fourth wife. I think at the time. Extra coming out. So, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's funny to trying to look up, sonic, boom. While we talk about it. And of course, I got videos of fighters Chang's, sonic, boom. Saudi. Boom cartoon might be a little better. So we're going to get into sonic, boom. Right. After these messages. Hello. My name is Kevin Pollack. Yes. The award winning funny fellow from that film. And or TV thing that makes you smile every darn time. You see it, folks. Did you know, I've got a new comedy podcast that was created with you and mine 'cause I do it's called alchemy this, and it was designed with a single purpose, you laughing a lot I'm talking please. Let someone else drive when listening if you enjoy laughing uncontrollably while running errands exercising or building a crispy cream doughnut machine and your basement from parts you stole while working there as an assistant manager, oh, buddy. 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You know, it's like you sign in you put your name on the list, and you get called in. And they say, okay, we're trying to do this. And you say, oh, how about this? Will you know? Domi ago as lady too high, and they and even then we still will play around with it to this very day. But yeah, it was I would say it was probably two thousand nine and then the game was coming out in two thousand ten and they the someone from Sega of America had sent me the heads up. Like, hey, we're gonna announce your name today, like twelve noon like PSE or something like that. And I was like, okay. And they just wanted to let you know. And I'm like why you might you might get something. And I mean like at like twelve o one PS t all of a sudden I starting at this illegal. Dealing people. Go to old guys do. Who? It didn't matter. They hear your voice actor so though here you doing different things. And at that point. I think I would had done like Chris Redfield, you know, and it's like like, how can Chris Redfield voice, sonic? And then there was this teach. You about voice this Alton towers voice leak from the from over in the UK. There was a hotel that had a sonic themed room. And apparently, some of the files that we'd sent over like literally like, there's a blower like, so all of a sudden this voice. It was like triggered the concourse. And I was like that's that's got to be a like a either Powell NTSC conversion or something. I was like that's not how we recorded it. That's how it goes. You just you still play around to this very day with the voice, so. Yeah. Two thousand nine I'd say it was when we first auditioned for my that's so crazy because sometimes I'll do a voice over audition. And I'll do some weird thing where like somehow get it on a register that I've never did. And I was like, oh, I hope I don't get our. That too. Yeah. Like every they'll do certain voices, and you go I can't sustain that for four hours shred shredded. So yeah, that's how it goes. But let's talk about sonic, boom. Because I do remember the day because the big thing that people talked about more than anything the one thing. I heard before even stuff about your voice was the handkerchief. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Will split. I was team handkerchief. I liked it. I was like that gives them a little little flavor. But some people were so mad story. Some people were so mad hip story. I love it. I love the handkerchief and one thing I do love. Stay on brand. Here's y'all mate. Knuckles. Nice. And. He was like I was like this do lifts. I'm talking about. He's got tight hamstrings or something. He's just like, I can't you know. And then he had the arm wraps. Dang knuckles. Is so tight even the straps around the shoes people really doesn't even make any sense. Why would they have like sport tape around their feet because they would just like shred that up which is a really funny thing for us to even consider is that like people have this like visceral reaction at times to like anything changing with characters. You're talking anthropomorphic hedgehog is so realistic, dude. But yet, I get it too. I understand like, you know, like these are characters the oftentimes we we've grown up with or they just feel like an and it's weird to think, and and I've actually built Freiburg or one of the other writers on the sonic boom series. Basically said that there we can't we can't retroactively harm anything that that you loved let's say fifteen years ago, we can't harm anything that you experienced back. Then with what we're doing now. But you have to understand. The joy that you had in something back then needs to be polished and done a new for more contemporary audience. If you want to have that thing adapt and be sustainable. So it's kind of like, it's a tricky. It's a tricky thing. So I think and it's and it's a ton of people working on it. So yeah, I think it is the thing of like people not understanding that the demo that it's four is not them. And that there are proven things that are creatively. What your style jet is being based off of? It's not like, oh, this is just a nostalgia grabs. Like, no. It's actually not for you. Mad about it. Yeah. Because the changes that are being made are to apply to what this new demo one. Yeah. Oh, I think one of the biggest things I think people kind of crap on is the new team titans. It's not. It's teen. It's not that the people that people saw the movie, but people hate it. Like if you're on tumbler, people are constantly. Yeah. That's sad thing. But then, but then that's that was my point. Teen titans. Go it has a fan base that loves it so much. Much the same way successful it just irks the people that don't like. But it's not the original team. Like, yeah. Yeah. You can't just keep cranking out the same thing or you're going to get like the then the franchise dies. And then you don't get to enjoy a new version of it or introduce it to somebody who's younger or that kind of thing. So it's it's a it's a tricky that plus everybody thinks that everything's being done for them. And if I don't like it now, we have this outlet where you get to go on and go like that's not my blankety blank. You know, I think it's cool that for you exists though. Like, that's how I feel about Shiro the telephone about thunder cats everyone like the animation. Like, no, I think it's really cool that we have two versions of it. Like, I want to be in a world. I wanna see like, you know, same with my franchise. I wanna see like different people taking a stab at. I want people to be taking risks because as opposed to like giving us the same recycled. That's how I feel about. Whenever people talk about like, it'll never be heath ledgers joker. I'm like good. Zach. I don't wanna see someone trying to do that someone doing their own also everything I don't care like how wonderful a film is like there's so few things that really still stand up really have to always go back and take it with a little bit. Like, oh that was a different time. When the comedy was little slower, the animation housing available or so, you know, you have this league nostalgia of any given thing. But when you go back and watch some of the stuff like some of the original Star Wars, and you go, oh, how funny this was in the seventies. Oh, wow. This is in the eighties. And you just you have to look at it and go it's not the Nuss dowager that I had when I watched some of that stuff as a little boy is awesome. And it's amazing that it had the impact kids. It was able to conjure up so much in me with an imagination. So you have to find a way of doing that same thing for an audience. That's a little more savvy or a little more with a shorter attention span or what happened. So it's like you can't just keep cranking out the same thing or at dies because it doesn't find a new audience, so smart and trail. Still doesn't stop people from going like put that sucks, and it's not my map. To have at least the one thing. I like about comic con is it's people face to face. And so at force it like people would never probably say that you know to your. You know what I mean? But like. Must be nice to have, you know, this different generations of fan coming. And it's also it's nice when you get a chance to even even these things like you, you get a chance to kind of like express to people like guys, there's nobody that's involved in these things. I have yet to work with somebody on any franchise that I've ever been a part of who says man, I can't wait to make this game. Suck. Or just ruined this character for everybody. Everybody goes into exactly what he goes into a trying to do. But it's really really difficult because to keep something viable you have to adapt. And to adapt means you're gonna violate the sensibilities of someone somewhere that wants it the way that it used to be. And it's like, well, you can't do that you constantly have to evolve. And so when you get a chance to of talk people down and go guys, nobody in that room was trying to do anything to irritate you specifically, and it's like you have to understand take your own head out of your own. But and think about what other people might be experiencing with it. Like, hey, the scarf was a choice to kind of let me bring him into a little bit more of a contemporary feel them a little bit more of an Indiana Jones kinda vibrant more about adventure and fun and comedy with you know, with with the sonic boom rise of lyric game. And so you know, that that requires a little bit of an update because if we were to stick with the same old character, it wouldn't look. Right. Create that world and plug something old into it. So it's yeah. Yeah. Hey, some people all the time all the people some of the time, right? Everyone couldn't have his girlfriend Madonna and be Bill Clinton. Oh, exactly, Mr Needle, mouse Clinton all. We're getting emails. Bill Clinton thing. Now that we're wrapping up. I don't wanna make you dance for us. But if you could what do I don't dance for us dance, no money because when we had Kyle bear who's avoid. He's voice for you. Yes. Go on in DB's. And we're like, oh, could you do the voice that he did it? We're like, oh my God. Like, oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. I wish feel bad whenever it do a voice in front of us. In fact, I'd even ended on that variety thing the guy that was hosting on the carbon. Here's like what is what is sawn accent? Like could you do voice and tell me to voice, I don't even know what he sounds like. And I was like you better get out there, and, you know, go vote, and then that just before they cut it. I look it's basically that shrill annoying thing. And people are like Roger things sonic is shrill and annoying like night. Ignite. Josh. Grown man. And he probably. It's your voice. Here's the thing too. That I feel is even harder for your comedian. So you're always going to go for the funny. Exactly. And and and one thing is in look say, this would love nerds are not the never get that you do that. Like, they're just like you're trying to doing it in person is always awkward like as a grownup because they me. Wow. Okay. That's why close my eyes. And especially with little kids, and that kind of thing I've said to people like I've been at like birthday parties or something somebody come at the go. Hey, might you might kids are really big fan of like give giving us a cookie or something like so we want you to do the voice, and I was like I can tell you right now. If you've not explained to them that grownups have jobs where they do this turn around or let me go around the corner and call you on your cellphone, and we'll do it that way because this ruins the allusion. I get so I'm so conscious of that was just feel bad because I'm like, you know, going gray since I was in high. So here's this character or SEO with the girls will ask like, what can I your voice? I'm not Italian. Five five. Got no tan, it's not gonna this is not going to go over here. So I'm always conscious that Carrie Fisher said the same thing that people would like, oh, it's Princess Leia. And they would bring their kids up, and then he would just cry. Milkins cigarettes. Exactly this was before. Also, like force awakens and stuff. Silly. During those decades when the only other Princess laya was her when she was much younger. Yeah. She was like people like the kids would come up and be like. You know, I'm Princess Leia. And I get it. I get it. But yes, what would you like me to know? I mean, you did it as YouTube channel is is. Yeah. Listen to nerd efficient tag. Dani Fernandez ruined my life. He did. He just have you close out the episode at the end of episode just say stay narrative, but he has to plug. Yeah. Know, we're not in doing it right now. I was just letting them know what we usually. Okay. Cool. But what do you want to write their social social just Twitter and Instagram or is at Roger both are at Roger Craig Smith my full name. No D R O G E R G Smith, and and visit the Roger Smith hotel in New York, I hear. Oh, I think you should really support them had me going. No. And I it Facebook. I've got on there. But I'm I'm mostly on Twitter. I liked I prefer Twitter for the interaction there. Excuse me. Another. Roger you play. Steve raja's. I yes, I know we didn't even. I know we didn't even catatonic basically, captain America did say that he's a man of a million voices. So I think I in capsulated that would be captain, we've got Black Panthers quest is airing on Disney XT, right? Which is phenomenal the writing on that is so epic. It's so good. You guys have to check out that series. We've got unit kitty on Cartoon Network. Got Ben ten on cartoon network's they'll just girls does show. Join is. Yeah, I've not seen a while. Yes. Jeff's awesome. That's a that is a lovely human being. But let me know if you're to gel Challah doesn't well let me know undercut your how dare you. Jobs. I jokes. You should be in it. I mean, you can play your fam- like you have that accent down because that is your family, then we'll we'll kind of Nexans very we speed like dis where denied Judy news video rough and yeah, so there's like a clear, and I appreciate that. Then it isn't just generic Nigeria. It isn't Will Smith and concussion. Oh, yeah. Shots fire. You know? We'll Smith come at me. I'll jump into the canyon to he's busy on Instagram. Right. Oh, that'd be rich. Exactly. He's literally going what if he say about? And then you have another sonic game. That's dropping twenty nineteen. We do we thought it was coming out earlier. And that's okay. Skier over fourteen. The official names on the team racing. Teams on a grazing. Thank you. Thank you cheese once again at Roger Craig Smith. But yeah, so we got another game coming out, and I'm not in it. But they've got the big sonic, the hedgehog CG movie that's coming out. And I think that comes out. Yeah. I can remember that summer. I think they're they're shooting for thing. It's November eighth twenty nine. Jim Carey will be playing crazy, man. I'm very I want to see his I wanna see that new show that he has on show. It looks writers Cody Heller it looks real dead. It was bizarre to even think that we're talking about CG alive action CG, sonic, the hedgehog film coming out like for a massive audience to think this many years later that the character is still. Connick? It is we gotta close. There's so many things that could talk about. I was gonna say you also were in the lympics right out sign versus the Olympic Games. Like this on a character. I didn't do anything. I don't think there was any voice associated with that on your is it really. Yeah. Oh, are you thinking about the go to the Olympic Games kind of thing? Like there there. There's. They might have been feel like he was one of them. Everywhere. I was gonna say because Goku Mario has been an Olympic mascot and Doku has also been Olympic mascot. And I think that they had I was looking on your IMDB, and it looks. Okay. I don't know if you got paid for it, Roger probably. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Probably not. Listed. Like a Macy's Thanksgiving Day balloon stuff like that. Right. Right. Right. And it's weird to think that like, you know, and it's really funny because I always say in my job that like when somebody if you get on an airplane. Somebody asks you what you do rarely do even say voice actor. Right. And you're only as legitimate and good is anything they've ever heard of. Ever heard of you be shocked because it depends on the person, man. Old ladies, I'll say, sonic, the hedgehog, and I go. Oh, yeah. Blue fowler. Yeah. And then it's like, my mom, and then it always falls out with this. He talks. So funny that is funny just about that commerce. I remember when I got hard for at midnight. I was so hyped to go on an Uber and be like just because you know, you'll be like, I'm a comedian. Yeah. So I was like, yeah. I write for at midnight on comedy central. And he was like what show is that? What are you doing? I'm a teacher third grade. Love a little extreme rate. It was so bad. Took my mom loves Jimmy Fallon as moms Dale and took her to the tonight show and Bryan Cranston was on and he comes out and she's like oh dad from. Exactly. You would love this story. You will as a result of the regular thing. I know we we're trying to get out of here. Now. Only going to take twenty minutes. I brought my mom to a recording session of regular show many many years ago and Mark Hamill worked on the show with us the entire time. And it was great. He was pot or skips skips. And all sorts of. So that was Mark Hamill do skits. And so I bring my mom into the session. We're we're in the waiting room waiting to go into the studio and in walks, you know, some of the co workers because when I'm introducing in walks, Mark. And, you know, hey, Roger, and I say mom month. They Mark, you know, this is my mom carry like, Karen, this is this is Mark Hamill. And she goes nice to meet you, and he's like nice to meet any couldn't have been. He was he just like I wanted to hand him like, you know, money right there. He was your son is he's the nicest guy, right, then he walks off. And I look at my mom, and I go, you know, that was right. And she goes who and said this, Mark Hamill, and she goes, Dorothy Hamill's, brother. And I was like. I I'm freaking out about introducing you to Dorothy Hamill, the sater's, brother. Luke freaking Skywalker from the store movie. Exactly. I was just like there you go. What we do. That's why blessing to be a part of it. But it is kind of you know, like to be part of anything. But but to think that sonic is is so ubiquitous in so many ways that like globally because look this is show business. Somebody went that characters recognizable enough if we plug in the right celebrities and the right people in that kind of thing we could make a movie that could become a financial success. Right. And I'm sure say go was more than happy to say. Like that furthers the you. That's why I it's not like people. Are you irradiated you're not in? And I was like I didn't think that I was going to be in that from the get-go. Yeah. Let alone and cameo or anything I'd say it was just it's a different entity. And yet people when I say to people I go, I'm, but you're also still voicing hand bars. I know that is the next game coming out. But but but I always looking at you. Yeah. But we're a part of something like that will help further the size and the brand and on. Why would I be against it? It's like another should've been versions of captain America, and Batman and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, there's gotta be something for everybody. I love it was that inspirational. Yeah. Plan. There's a Latin American popstar, Carol, savannah, and she's voicing me. And the Spanish version of Ralph breaks internet 'cause she's singing a song for Ralph breaks internet, and Jay, and I am not a Latin American pop star that has like eight million followers talking, and she is more famous for playing me than I am for playing me. Funny announced that she's playing Danny Fernandes. I don't think she knows that. I'm a person and not just a character. Cool. But people are like how come you didn't voice her like, I know, I only have three lines easily do Spanish, but I was like I think it's because she's a Latin American pop star in from the Disney channel when they're doing those. I'm not known in Latin America like I mean, I'm Mexican. But like, I'm she's bigger. She is eight million followers. So yeah, I was I was more like this is really cool and weird that she's voicing me. Like, it's so meta I think people don't like to think of this as a business though to things that they love. They connect with on a certain that they don't they don't like to think of the commerce aspect of it. But again, you have to look at and go if the commerce fails. So does everything you love about this? So it's a it's a weird makes for strange bedfellows. As they say. And it's a it's a weird dance that you have to do, you know when people start looking at that going. Oh, they're trying to hit certain markets. Right. Yeah. They have to so different than like somebody back in nineteen eighty nine or eighty eight walking with his sketches of Mr Needle mouse and asking people on the streets of New York, where do you think about this? If you like this, if you think this is cool, we want to get something that appeals to as many people as possible. People don't like hearing that. Because after all this is for me, and I don't like it. So I'm going to go. Register only worded Email Sonics place. Me. Dr egghead. Thank you. Roger again for coming on. I am Dani Fernandez, you can catch both of us in Ralph breaks internet, which is currently out to and follow. Roger on Twitter for all of his announcement. Yes. Of announcements me, if he you way on Twitter and Instagram y in w I d I e if he's on twitch, lots of nerd fam- jumped in the stream some of y'all rated me, thank you so much keep up the love you'll probably hear Roger onstream as I play some soul caliber six what by main sick. Oh, yeah. That's my main. Yeah. Dolphin shelf. Dan, she often. So so you that's that's that's our boy when you hear me getting tossed up while I try and get good. Dan, you got anything coming up? Did you already say? Well, it's coming up for you. I think so just follow me on Twitter. That's where in my book. Yeah. I was announced. So I got to finally announce share. I was very honored to write in the good immigrant, which was actually a collection of essays from actors and writers of color was a book that came out in the UK a couple years ago that Rizzo med very famously wrote in his essay was called airports and audition rooms, it's basically talks about what it's like to be a creator of color when you're only wanted or appreciated when you're famous or whatever I was asked to contribute in the American edition. And so we just announced that I'm very excited for everyone to read my essay, there's also a ton of very talented writers of color that contributed and that is dropping March twenty nineteen. But I tweeted out the book cover today noise. Yeah. I think that's it. I think that we need to say what we always say. If he. Yeah. Sometimes you feel you're stuck in second gear when it has being your day your month you week or even your year. I'll be there for you. When the rain starts, if we haven't zoo, the, yeah, I don't even know where the cops are where we already joke you, bro. Dane. Stay not all thanks for listening. Hi, I'm Ariel Casten. And I'm Jonathan Strickland and together we're going to tell you the stories behind some of the biggest triumphs and failures in business. That's right. We're going to explore situations that tested the metal entrepreneurs pivotal moments required. Making tough decisions. We'll be talking about some big companies that everybody knows like Disney LEGO and Harley Davidson and together we try to answer the question. What do you do when you find yourself at the brink? 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Mural celebrates boxing champion George Dixon

The Current

00:00 sec | 3 months ago

Mural celebrates boxing champion George Dixon

"Hi I'm Dr Brian Goldman. If you haven't heard my new podcast the dose, this is the perfect time to subscribe. Each we answer your most pressing health related questions and right now we know you're grappling with covid nineteen on those we bring in top experts to answer your questions about the corona virus and post some of our own. Get the latest evidence in a way. That's easy to understand by subscribing to the dose. It's your guide to getting through this difficult time. You can find the dose wherever you get your podcast. This is a CBC podcast. Five foot three and just over one hundred pounds, but in many ways George Dixon was a giant in his sport. He was the first canadian-born boxing champion in the United States, and he became the first black athlete to win a world, championship in any sport tomorrow in honor of what would have been his one hundred and fiftieth birthday. The Effort Ville Museum in Halifax will unveil a mural of George. Dixon Craig Smith is a historian and the president of the Black Cultural Society of Nova Scotia Good Morning Craig. Good Morning Robyn. How did you first come to know of George Dixon? I think I I always knew I grew up in in inner city Halifax I grew up not far from the George. Dixon Center, which opened in sixty eight so as a small child I knew of the the George Dixon Senator George Dixon, was a boxer, but didn't of course no the the accomplishments that he had amassed until much later. They're really around the time that we started to celebrate black history month's here in in Nova Scotia which was around Nineteen eighty-four, where we started to do things at the North Branch Library where I worked that. I started to dig and learn more about him and what fascinated you about him? Well his is for one of the fact that he wasn't you know he wasn't a very big follow or or very heavy. Follow but here's a man who as you just said? Moments ago was the first black A. Titleholder in any sport and he was, he was somebody from Halifax advil that he was the first black person to hold titles in two way classes that he had published a book in one thousand nine hundred three call the lesson boxing You know there were just so many accomplishments. There's one man had done in such a short span because he only lived to thirty thirty seven years of age, and so only started boxing at around sixteen or seventeen, so here's a guy who. In a twenty year span rose to the pinnacle of his sport, and really set the stage for Allie and Joe, Louis, and foreman, and all those people that would come after he was a black fighter in post, civil war America mixed race matches were bands at that point. How did he get to fight against Wade opponents? But. It seemed to be within the The lower ranks heavyweight. Sure if there was no question wasn't I think six sixty Jack Johnson became the first black heavyweight champion, but in the lower categories there seem to be Seem to be less less they less restrictive, and so therefore they and maybe it was not having a an of opponents. Maybe it was just that it didn't get the limelight that heavyweight got. were opportunities for black boxers in those lower ranks to be able to fight, and you're right I. mean you post reconstruction you're talking? In that twenty year span where he was boxing in his career there over two thousand men lynched in the United States He was really you know He. He's really an anomaly when you think of who he was and what he did compared to what was happening in the rest of the country at that time. I'm I add host of ideas in this age of Click Bait and on shouting ideas is a meeting ground for people who want to deepen their understanding of the world. Join me as we crack, open a concept to see how it plays out over place and time, and how it matters today from the rise of authoritarianism to the history of cult movies. No idea is off limits. Ideas is on the CBC listen or wherever. Wherever you find your podcasts. The theatres have closed, but the show look on, play me. PODCAST is thrilled to present a new series. The show must go on featuring provocative productions from some of North America's acclaimed creators for the stage. Sit back and experience everything from chilling thrillers to Gut wrenching dramas to irreverent comedies each month experience, the exhilaration of theatre from the comfort of your own home. Plenty available wherever you get your podcasts. Is it true that he once fought a match. That lasted seventy rounds. For our a little over four hours, it was on November, the first eight, hundred, eighty six Sorry, it was in fact that was his first fight that was in Halifax sort. It was February eighteen ninety that he fought Callum McCarthy, and it went seventy rounds, and it was called a draw at the end McCarthy held the bantamweight and featherweight champion, and even though it was called the draw Dixon laid claim to to those due to being half the owner of those titles after that White, and between then and July of the next year, he went in beat. Every contender traveled to Britain beep the British Batman's rather champion went. Oh, to San Francisco and he in July of Eighteen, ninety one any day, Willis, who was the Australian bantamweight title, and so he, at that point became the undisputed world bantamweight champion, interestingly enough he was the only champion at that time that had beat the champions from the other continents, so he really could lay claim to being a world titleholder where a lot of other folks it was. Just boxer says they had fought in the US and one US titles. You mentioned that he died at the age of thirty seven, and his story doesn't have a particularly happy ending what happened? No it doesn't. Unfortunately you know like a lot of boxers of his time they say that over his career, he amassed about two hundred and fifty thousand dollars but he he lived high he Gambled Unfortunately, he drank as well and I know that. When he went to Bellevue Hospital and was admitted, he talked about the alcoholic got him. The drink had got him and so he lived hard and and Unfortunately, he didn't think about what I was. GonNa do at the end of my career, and you usually end up with a little bit of entourage as well when you're you know the best at anything and so Being, somebody who who supported other boxers as well. There's a story where he would go to support John. L Sullivan of course at that time was the the Great White Open in champion out of Boston and he would go to a lot of the Charity events that he would put on. Any would buy tickets for people to be able to come to those events themselves to support Sullivan He was you know a black boxer who did talk about one particular vite that happened in New Orleans, where he wouldn't go in and fight, unless black people were allowed to buy tickets and be able to come as well you know. He was somebody who was who was pushing the envelope. He was somebody who who stepping up and and trying to make change even within that little sphere of influence that he had at that time. Just in our last minutes Craig. What are you going to be thinking about? As the mural of George Dixon unveiled? you know I'm going to be looking at it with a lot of pride, you know somebody who's in the Canadian. The American the international all boxing hall of fame, of course somebody who's in the Nova, Scotia Sports Hall of fame. I think I'm going to be thinking about the fact of how one man could have such an amazing impact on a sport. and in some cases unfortunately still still be so I'm known across the country. Hoping that with the mural that with this interview, that more Canadians get to know and learn about who George, Dixon was, and about the impact that he had on the sport of boxing, and really elevate him to who who he is You know there should be documentaries about George Dixon. There should be people you know children's books about George. Dixon George Dixon's name should be out there and folks should know how great this this actually was It was once the most famous black person in the world as well well. Thank you very much. Thank you for telling us about cry. Great to talk to you this morning, thanks. Thank you very much? Robin Craig Smith. He's an author historian. He's also the president of the black cultural. Society of NOVA SCOTIA FOR MORE CBC PODCASTS. Goto CBC. DOT CA slash podcasts.

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Side Jams: Roger Craig Smith

Rock N Roll Archaeology

00:00 sec | Last month

Side Jams: Roger Craig Smith

"Readings everyone. This is Brian, recent entertainment journalist and author in new. York. Welcoming you to the inaugural episode of Side Jams for over twenty years. I've interviewed movie stars, Rockstars bestselling authors frequently we've ended up veering into areas outside of what they're promoting they have hobbies and other passions that really inspire them and they usually don't have enough space to delve deeply into those. So I decided to create a whole podcast series devoted the people's pursuits outside of their main gigs in other words, their side jams my I guess is Roger. Craig Smith A well-known voice. Actor who for the last decade has portrayed Chris Redfield in the resident evil and marvel versus Capcom video game series. He has also played many different characters in animation and video games including Captain America Sonic, the Hedgehog and Kylo Ren. He frequently portrays the dark knight including voicing him in last year's Batman Ninja anime beyond his work behind the MIC Roger Likes to get behind the telescope. He's an avid fan of astronomy rocketry and space travel which headed via skype for this episode. So without any further ado, let's blast off into the debut of side Jones. Readings everyone. This is Brian recent and this is the inaugural podcast of side gems, and speaking today with Roger Craig. Smith who is he's he's many people Batman Captain America he sonic the Hedgehog, his men of multiple talents and multiple personalities. That's pretty accurate. The multiple personality thing and you get paid for it, which is nice. Exactly. We say that to ourselves all the time, all of my personalities, our previous interview that we did for the aquarian a few months ago is was one of the inspirations for this podcast. As if we were talking about earlier people say I should do a movie. podcast music podcast but you know there's so many of those and I often discover when interviewing of various towns artists that they have other interests outside their main gig something that they don't get to talk about very much. You're clearly passionate about astronomy rocketry and space exploration. Absolutely we talk for in junior college when you took the initial Strana me course. With no after yeah. No. That came afterwards that was The photography thing came about as a result of of having a little bit of success in life in me. Kind of always remember in high school I took a photography course like an intro to photography with dark rooms and the exposing of film and all that kind of stuff developing film I. Should say and it was You know I i. loved it. I I liked this sort of creative aspect of that form of storytelling if you will. But then you know I couldn't afford any sort of electronics and then finally the the career kind of started kicking in and I thought I could probably by like an actual camera and learn how to do. You know DSL, our digital photography today and it Kinda spurred spurred a sort of like I like this stuff I like I like the the the sort of planning and the creative element, and the you know the scientific element, and then that went into I remember taking junior colleges astronomy course and going I liked astronomy I. wonder if I could buy a telescope today and got you know a basic intro- introductory telescope and then I was like I wonder if you can get a camera to the telescope and then The Pandora's box and the rabbit hole was opened and it was all downhill from there. So now you're in junior college. This is before Chapman University correct yes. I was at about the ten year to twelve year plan for for higher education if you will whatever works. Yeah exactly. Hey. Get. There is interesting too because the first experience you had stargazing you're out there for several hours. You realize you didn't really see. But. You're still mesmerized what was up there Oh, absolutely. I. I the the girlfriend at the time was just like once I started down that that hobby of like I think I want to go outside and set up the telescope and she's like I'm GonNa lose you for the rest of the night and it was like yeah. 'CAUSE 'cause all of a sudden. It was like I think I had to work the next day when I first put it out there and you know by the time especially when you're learning, it takes a while to Kinda get stuff set up and that kind of thing, and by the time I was actually figuring out how to track and and start getting focused on August stuff pretty soon I'm looking down on my watch it's two, forty, five in the morning I gotta go to bed. Because I was just losing myself, you could literally just start scanning the skies and going there are stars especially when you start looking through telescopes even in light polluted skies or even just a pair of binoculars that the you know what you look up and see with the naked eye really isn't there and then you look through this you know the Ip -s on telescopes suddenly you start seeing you know clouds and things that you you've you've come to find actually nebulizer or that kind of thing and you. Just. Start going with all this stuff is out there that that we just are robbed our poor little human vision. You know robbed us of that, and that was the next sort of thing that that that really expanded the the sort of available you know visual targets are there is understanding that the cameras because they can scoop in so much more light than our eyeballs can suddenly you. You can see things that you don't even see at all. That's where the you know the the go-to and the. The aligned telescopes. Where you tell it hey, take me to this galaxy that you know. Even when you look through the Ip's, you don't see anything there. You fire off camera all of a sudden. There's this galaxy appearing on the screen on your camera because you took a two minute exposure and suddenly the light was there all the all that stuff and will spend hour after hour and even when I'm doing imaging and just letting the camera do its work I'm still sitting out there you know crack a beer and sit back and just watch satellites or see al fly by you know. You just find yourself mesmerized. Still that's not a way to romance the ladies just just say no, it's really not I mean it's so I've had so many people are you going out with people do as I've come to find it's a little easier just to do this by yourself because it's really hard to find somebody who wants to go you know bundle up freeze get bitten by bugs or get a little spooked by you know the stuff that's stirring in the night and I've I've literally been on on my property up in hatchet be and had like. Elk that are like you know in the Rut sort of fighting each other about one hundred feet away from me and I'm just laughing hearing elk bugling the crunch of like antlers crushing together and I'm just out there with my telescope in a beer and wine. Is GonNa go, and this isn't for everybody and most especially I don't think most women would not find that to be a very romantic outing like, Hey, you wanna go just sit outside and freeze and stare at stuff for awhile. Be Creepy people in the night and eight. It's funny as a writer. I relate to that I mean I spend. Time with my girlfriend but by the same token, there are times I like to be in my place like I'm a movie buff I love Comic Books, I'm albums I mean I I write about art surrounded by moist trying to catch up. Times I. Want to be really social and go out to parties and they go at the shows some people leave me the hell alone. On a lake solitude and I think as creative people are like that and I think the best bit of advice got promote a teacher in was a class classic by nyu and Sophomore level classes, and if you WanNa be a writer got to be prepared to spend a lot of time alona. Oh absolutely. That's what you're going to be doing. Yes. screenwriting was the same thing I mean it was I technically still have a literary agent that every now and then we'll we'll hit me up and go. I've ever written anything like every three years he kinda in and I say no and right now it really and truly is about time there's there's so much management involved with the sort. Of Voice Acting career that I find myself in the midst of that to to then think about going home and I loved writing at night and so to think that I I can't stay up late I'm up every day at five am and I'm trying to go to bed by nine thirty as best I, can and when I going, what am I gonNa Right in there and rest is everything for the voice and all that kind of stuff. So you know it's but I do miss those times where it was like I don't know the problem solving the figuring out the rush of broke through a little bit of writer's block and I've got all these ideas that are flowing and. Yes and really, and truly just getting comfortable with ourselves as individuals in those quiet moments. THAT'S NOT A. Word I know we're social animals by design, but but the solitude and the perspective that can open up in your life when you start to kind of like, no, yourself know your thoughts and observe yourself and examine yourself in not in that way. But you know but examine the mind you know the be amused by where all these influences and thoughts and behaviors and know the inner monologue in the inner broadcast radio station all that stuff like that. That's it can be uncomfortable at first for a lot of folks and yet it's so gratifying when you start kind of peeling back the layers of your own brain. And getting comfortable with that. But there is a balance like there are. There are times where it's like man I just gotTa, go out and hang out with some folks and listen to some other people think and if you're going to be at nine thirty and when you star gazing well, that's that's usually like the weekend. So I I try to I, try to plan where I if in a perfect world I can take like a Friday afternoon off and and I I mean I literally plan out you know times to go either travel or get outside of the the light pollution over knew what I would. Call like a new moon weekend new moons don't always occur like on the weekend, but but closest to the new moon when there's very little moonlight to deal with is, is the ideal time to either photograph the Milky Way in the summer or to do actual astro photography with the camera and the telescope you know in the winter months that kind of thing, which is ideal because it's colder temperatures and clearer skies when it is cold and all that kind of stuff no ground heat and less temperature sensors on the the camera sensor you know they they like to be nice and cold and all that. So I Try to plan time to say all right. So Friday and Saturday or my good imaging nights and then Sunday is when I come back home and catch up on the sleep and go right back to work you know up at five am on Monday and the way I figured out as usually by around two am I'm so exhausted that I'm making dumb decisions when I'm out there. So I I don't I don't stay up all night, but I like doing the time lapse photography because you can set it up, get it firing off and do a whole night's worth of time lapse and then just wake up. Early in the morning, go grab camera, bring it back inside or you know when I told with my trailer, I'll put my camera up on top of the trailer before going to bed and let fire off all night as long as it's not keeping me up kind of thing, and you know wake up early and go pull it off the top of the trailer and bring it inside and download the images. You know it's interesting Utah. Photos One of them was the Milky Way over a doggone little payette little little pay. Yeah. Little Pay. Lake and highland another one of high on highway. Twenty one year Boise Idaho Yep. So this is Idaho when he preferred spots then yeah I bought a place up there in and back in two thousand eleven and the sort of dream is to eventually find myself as I'm getting older being able to what I call it sort of pull the parachute and go up and Start to downsize my life and and be there and ideally still working and doing voiceovers and coming into the L. A. Area when needed. But maybe doing a lot more of the remote retail narration Promos, things that you can do from home from your home studio and to be like I have in my later years here nothing I'd consider myself old but. You know in my in my forties, it's really started like around the mid thirties just kind of going I really do like being outdoors and doing active things I'd like to kind of have you know my fifties and sixties be active and outside and and sort of experiencing the world and a little bit more of a present way than what my industry allows because you're either you're either worried about the very next GIG. So you're either constantly focused on the future or you're you're. Thinking too much about your past and decisions you made back Dan like Manna hope people like that project that I did and I was so bad in that I should have done different choices you know as opposed to get outside and you just go for a hike or mountain bike ride or go sit on a kayak or whatever it might be, and you're just you're living in those moments and so I figure I've been investing in myself in what I would like to think as. A A slower pace in a much more present lifestyle hopefully starting around forty five or on the forty five, which is around twenty twenty for me to try to get in and start start doing that stuff. So we'll see but that's all I do find myself going to Idaho a lot just because I have a place there. So it's easy to hop on a southwest flight be there in a few hours and I'm you know I was just there this past weekend and I? Hiked five miles all three days that I was there and went and ate tacos and got good beer and met with some good friends that are up there and you know it's a it's a nice slow pace to life where you can actually go do all that stuff and not worry about your car getting broken into or sitting in three hours of traffic. You know to get to the the place that kind of thing. So you can hear my love for La can't you know? It's interesting. I live near New York City I. Love It. At the same time. You know it is a good balance to find people who live in New York City. All the time I see one of escape. I lived in. La like in West La many many moons ago. It was the same we're living in Hollywood was the same thing and also for astronomy La New York are great I mean I remember taking an astronomy class nyu and we went on the top of the twelve thirteen storey building and you still couldn't see anything you lucky to see us star exactly it's like look up in the sky folks there's five stars and four of them are actually planets. As not much better. No, it's not. I've lucked out there like I'm I'm based in Chatsworth, and for whatever reason, there's little pocket that I'm in is even though I'm surrounded by homes and businesses and all that stuff but we are sort of north enough and there's a bunch of hills all around where I match. So they kind of you know there's not as much development on those hillsides. So believe it or not. I can see you know I I've got enough to see the Northstar to see Polaris to be able to to to sort of align telescope properly and I can do some imaging. I've I've image the the Orion Nebula from my backyard here in Chatsworth and it's not ideal but you can get those things. You can even see a little bit with the imaging. You can see a little bit of the Andromeda galaxy and stuff like that. So I mean there's I'm ironically I've got more stars where I'm at than some of my friends are down say closer to Burbank or right downtown La you can forget about it the view of La, when you're up in Maha drive is great but the stars are the city light's base. was down on the ground. Yeah, and it's it's I'm look at all things are for everyone and there's a lot of people that you don't want go sit in a trailer or go camping or you know get a little dirty your be out in the middle of the night that kind of thing like the creature comforts and I get it I mean, I've talked to two people who just go? Why did you buy a house in Iowa like Idaho Ohio Idaho Why did you do that? There's nothing there and then you ask them if they've ever been there and they say, well, no but I mean what could be there if I've never been there, it must not be worth going to and And I get that I talked to a guy out in New York we were out there for the Batman Ninja Premier in one of the guys that there was just like, yeah I can't. He goes I if I he goes I tried camping and it was so quiet I couldn't go to sleep. He says I need because I've been a city guy my whole life I need that din I need to hear the the their livelihood of all this kind of stuff that's going on out there and he's like, yeah, the crickets chirping or wind through the trees he was like his way too quiet. Now is that was funny because for him, he's like no man that that ain't me at all I'm GonNa live and die in in New York City and be just fine. I said Yeah that's my nightmare I love visiting and you know there's a lot to be said for great cuisine and a jar and just the the sheer sort of like human circus that's going on and. The to participate in dip your toes in. It is great. But I need I need to just kind of be you know I'm GONNA put my butt down in some dirt and Kinda just sit here and and just chill with pants on that sounds weird. The way I said it but you know I am clothed I should specify when I'm putting my butt down in the dirt. We are clothed during this podcast. Yes exactly. It's well, you might be I mean, it's it's audio. So you know that's their thing. Now, what's what's The coolest thing? You've actually seen coolest thing I've seen I've seen some crazy stuff out there. The ISS kind of passing overhead never gets old I. Mean I've I've I've settling all these great little APPs like things like ISS spotter is the one that I use, and there's all these different little apps that will help you go out and look for the International Space Station when it's in your area So I've gone out and watch that a number of times. The coolest thing I've seen. I, think, there's there's a particular what they call like a dead satellite and it's Kinda creepy. It's like these these satellites that eventually these countries lose communication there's there's a planned operation, a life span for a lot of these things and unfortunately I think it was like nineteen ninety-four. They finally started saying guys, we have to figure out what you know. We can't just leave these things in a certain orbit. So the world community got together in terms of the scientific meetings like we have to make sure that at the end of the plan sort of like operational life of the satellites that we either put them in a much higher orbit to where they're not. Going to be an issue or we let them descend but we have to have enough fuel on board to let them descend in burn up in the atmosphere. Okay and. So prior to I, ninety four and it's still happens even now when there's a glitch in the you know if we lose communication but there's there's dead satellites that are up there that kind of just tumble and they reflect light in a very different way than an average satellite they sort of flash and blink but, not in. A consistent way like a satellite that's properly sort of spinning a rotating and catching the Sun's light and reflecting it down and sort of a pattern. They will do these weird things and I've seen a few in the in the middle of the night that just do this weird. They call them flares they'll. They'll call it. There's a lot of. The iridium communications satellites have a satellite race, a solar panel on him. That's about the size of a common household door and they they literally they say I think it's called A radium radium flair might even just be called already players an APP that will let you know if there's going to be these flares occuring in your area and what it looks like is just Like a like a very short if you've ever seen the space station pass overhead, it's like a very short pass but it happens in this one tiny portion of the sky and it looks like a dim little star that's moving slowly, and then all of sudden it gets really bright for about. A quarter of a second goes right back to being dam, and then it just goes away and it moves about you know by the mind's eye of. It would be it moved in about two or three inches of the sky and and that's like that's like a fully functional iridium satellite flare. But these dead satellites, these weird patterns and flashes and every now, and then you'll just see one that just is like stuck in one spot of the sky. And its tumbling you begin to get this sense of like man. It's sort of weird to think we put that up. There are governments are our scientists our you know human beings put these things up there and they're just they're just dead just kind of you know hovering around up there. I've never seen a UFO or a alien or anything like that. But you see weird things like that makes you just kind of go ha that's a it's a weird thing to think that there's just there's this little chunk of humanity that people had their hands on. That's just it's no longer doing what it was intended to do, but it's it's right there and Supposedly about one hundred and fifty years earth will finally pull it back in or not, or you know it's getting so messy up there were really deeply concerned about all the I forget what it's called the cascade I think where it's like if two if two of these things going eighteen, thousand miles an hour in the opposite direction another collide, it's just it's so many millions of pieces of debris that then gets spread out that it just begins this whole other process of all the other targets that start getting hit by debris and becomes this mass as a problem up there. So it's weird when you see a dead satellite that's probably for me. Camera, wise with you shoot with what kind of telescope do you have and how much does it really cost to get into this kind of a hobby So like any hobby, it's going to be that there's entry level stuff and then there's more advanced stuff and I would I would argue that I'm barely intermediate at this as it is but I started off with a very, very cheap. I think it was maybe two hundred dollar telescope that was all manual and it's you know it's which is manual knobs to to control how it tracked across the sky and that kind of thing But you know I in the camera equipment that I now is primarily DSL. Our cameras can and I'm a cannon guy. I've used a canon sixty and sixty mark to seventy forever for for shooting this stuff and because the difference between like nights gapes, which is where you're using just a camera not connected to a telescope in like a wide angle lens to try to get as much of the sky in the foreground as possible and then actual astro. Photography they would. They would determine his usually there's no foreground images. There's nothing in front of the camera. It's just the sky and acts astro photography has a scientific element to it meaning you can see discernible targets like, Oh that's clearly this particular star that kind of thing. So scientists can look at your images and say, oh, that's interesting. What Day was the shot on her you know how long was your exposure and all that kind of stuff but now I've graduated to and I probably won't graduate much beyond this but I a celestial Celeste Ron. No sorry. What is it made? No Celeste drawn eleven inch edge HD telescope. So it's a eleven inch diameter. And And it's a it's It's it's a big honker You know I'm only five foot five to overcompensate and get stuff. That's much bigger than I am. Naturally it's would you call me? And So I so I connect the neat thing about that particular telescope if anybody sort of photographic reminded no, like F. stops is like a basically the how much light can be you know we it like an F stop and the lower the number, the more light that's going to be scooped in from the I'm that's not why isn't not a diaphragm? What am I talking about CanNot believe blanking on the term it right now but Basically the telescope itself would have if it was a camera lens, it would have an F stop in its native environment of F- Ten. So to get certain targets that are way out there in very dim. Light coming in, you'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA open up the Irish. A lot more exactly. Irish. Thank you. You would have to exactly. So with telescope can't really open up an Irish has just sort of fixed. You know F stop but this particular telescope because it has a primary mirror and a secondary mirror, you can remove the secondary mirror and attach the camera to. The what is effectively the front of the telescope and drops that F stop natively from tend to F- to seventy now scuba a lot more light and what would have been like a four minute exposure can drop down to like a thirty minute or thirty second exposure and still get the same amount of light and quality stuff. So it's just a great telescope for. Getting some of the deep sky objects and but yeah, I. Mean I know people who have invested? Tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars into this hobby over the course of their lives, guys that build their own little observatory in their backyard with dome and retraction it moves around these. There's actually entire communities that are that are surrounded around the the hobby of astronomy and backyard astronomy. There's also now a growing trend in you go to a mountain top where somebody owns the property they've put down all these cement platforms very level very. Stable, very strong secure. You put in your Dome Your telescope you you hard wired into Ethernet system that they've got. Then you go back to your house one, hundred, fifty miles away get on your computer in power up your telescope opened up the Dome and you just pay them a monthly rental fee for the infrastructure. They have up there so that you can have a remote observatory without having to own property or do that. There's a lot of ways to do it. With different sort of expense levels, but it's it's just how much do you wanna spend is really really the answer 'cause you know these things can go I mean just insane amounts of money if you really start getting into it. And this is just like I said from the backyard astronomy side of things there there're people with I guarantee you six-figure rigs. That are you know that are out there doing stuff because the technologies finally become available to us It's you know but really, and truly I encourage people to get a good pair of binoculars and go to a dark sky. I get yourself like a a great like lounging chair the one that kind of lays back. And you can see a ton of stuff with just a good pair of binoculars and dark skies. You can see like the Orion Nebula in the winter as an awesome thing to stare at because it's just this bluish gray cloud the you can start to kind of pick up a little bit of red and purple in it. You know with the naked eye if you've been out long enough, there's a lot of targets that you can see with the naked I don't need to invest in a telescope. You're also interested in space travel in rocketry should do that come after you're interested in that can block them from that. I. Think. So but I think I always like a little kid I was definitely like a a big fan of like like airplanes and and fighter jets and all that kind of stuff. I was a total aviation buff as a little kid. and I think for a brief period of time I think at around age thirteen. I would've loved to have you know entertained the idea of becoming a pilot but again, I was a horrible student and once I started looking into what goes into the training and all these concepts seem so far. Outside of my realm I think just gave up on that and just like looking at, you know go into air airshows and that kind of thing but the you know it, it's a little different now that I'm older to kind of appreciate the the sort of like the blend of the the audacity of the human spirit to sort of like attempt to tame you know things like explosive energy and then not only tame it but put it. Into a you know a tube and then shoot it as one continuous controlled explosion at the back end of it so that we can get off this earth and go look at stuff with these super delicate instruments that you know that have to take this this crazy ride including the fragile human beings that when they go, they sit on top of this enormous bomb you know and get ourselves off the planet. So all all that stuff kind of. Started to have pardon the Pun a lot more gravity. Got Older appreciate it because there's a kid you're just kind of like, oh, it's cool. Looks Neat. NEAT goes fast and sound schools loud So I think you know the the astronomy and then what ended up happening too is I I was able to to watch from little cabin up into Hatch Abi. From well, over one hundred, fifty miles away I watched a out of Vandenberg Air Force Base where they launch a lot of these iridium. The next generation of iridium satellites They were launching rockets from there and I one night. I. I was sitting there like like just trying to take photograph of of the night guy and I saw this bright orange glow on the horizon. What is that? Like? That's weird and Austin this this bright fiery dot is going up off the ground you know way out in the distance and like. There's rocket launch going on, let's I can't believe, and then I just started researching. When do we get to see these things and there's all these websites that give you advance notice of rocket launches and Vandenberg and all that stuff and so it just all of a sudden it was it was like another thing to go try to photograph and then it was like, Oh, I can do time lapse of this or Oh, I can also get a really nice long Zumra. Long Range Zoom Lens and see how much detail I can pull out of it, and then it was so yeah it all kind of sort of part and parcel but I definitely was a fan of the space shuttle as a kid I mean we used to be I can remember it playing in my backyard and Orange County and watching the the glass on sliding glass door vibrate as the space shuttle landing it leaders March Air Force Base is whether they used to have a hobby. I think it was March Air Force Base. I could get the wrong but when they would have to do a west coast landing for the space shuttle. Ca when it enters the atmosphere at creates those sonic booms about three or four of them and they're loud and you know I'm more hundreds of miles away. But as that thing you know coming in over the top of us you. Boom boom and it just the the sonic boom vibrates all the windows in the glass and it was like you know I was a big big fan of that sort of stuff when I was a little little boy. So here I am in my forties kind of re- recapturing a lot of that stuff and now being able to like photograph it or or film it, and then share it with you know. With a with another generation of people who might think this is pretty cool stuff. mean. there. Any specific aspects of rocketry? I mean is it more technical as just more of the the aesthetic? I think it's both because when you start looking into the the sort of conundrum like okay well. because. Now, what's happening is dollar efficiency, and now that we've got the privatization of the of the of space, essentially his, how do we get this reusable? How do we make it more affordable It's it's a weird thing to think that it's it's not an easy thing to get off and get outside of Earth's gravitational pull so that we can get these instruments up there and it it takes a ton of energy to to to sort of a hurled ourselves outside of this gravitational. Pole. And so I like seeing the different technologies that are being born in terms of the engines in terms of the fuel that they're using So there is the technical aspect, but then there is this odd sort of aesthetic quality to it. There's something to me it. It becomes almost like a spiritual thing to to witness because you you. You realize that you're seeing this this collective collaborative effort of all these brilliant minds and then. Very. Often if we're talking about manned space travel the the I keep using the term out too acidy. But just like the the fact we got people, men and women that are willing to risk everything for the ride. Right? You know the experience to to get beyond the go learn and there's this human spirit element to it. That's also just like I cannot believe we've figured out how to tame that kind of energy there's A. The aesthetic element definitely plays into it because sometimes it can be beautiful thing I mean there's when the Vandenberg Launch Happened a couple years ago just after sunset. But as it gets higher, the sun can illuminate the smoke plume and the the exhaust gases of the the rocket and of increases really iridescent weird reflection on the night sky it's gorgeous. Then again, you just think it's this beautiful kind of a thing, and again that's all in the eye of the beholder because there's a lot of people other. Government launched spies. Find out what we're looking at are doing like, yeah. You can look at it that way too but I just enjoy. The duality of the man look at what all these people figured out through stem. You know through through science technology engineering math like look at what we've done with our brains and look at what we do with our hearts in terms of like just having the audacity to to give this a shot you know take these very expensive delicate little instruments strap on top of a controlled explosion just so we can go. Your forecast weather better than the things that actually do really improve our lives. So I I like all those elements. Privatization of space is rather fascinating because he doesn't like anybody really knows what they're doing. It's just it's competition for NASA and it's better funded. I'm not necessarily sure it's more scientific. No, and we're getting into some controversial things. There's there's been a couple of little satellites have gone up for just like you know just like giant mirror balls because they want them to be able to be visible during the day, and it's like now we're getting into like, of course not now that's the other spiritual like here with narcissism of human beings want to be the one to you know who? That's my satellite. You Know Mirror ball that's up there that you can see and it's like I don't know that we want to start doing that there's obviously I mean they've already talked about advertising in space it's. It's theoretically you figured the entire space station is a football field in sort of size and and it's two hundred and fifty miles up, but it's bright enough to reflect enough sunlight. So let's get you know ten football fields up there and you have a billboard traveling across the sky at night. You know it's like you. Now you can literally advertise from space and there's a lot of things that people are thinking about where it's like yeah it's a little bit of the wild West Right, now, but at least it's inspiring people to get out and do this I i. really do think it's important for us to keep. Expanding and gaining that perspective I forget there's some famous quote from A. One of the astronaut astronauts from the Apollo Program. Who wanted to come back and say like you something about politicians and the their lack of desire at the time when when space travel stopped being sexy. I think he was frustrated and this is so bad. I should know who this individual is but Yeah it's horrible and I what what voice address and strong enough doesn't know this. You Bastard but he came back and he said when you gain this perspective of looking down on the earth from that high up, you want to just go back down and grab these politicians and dragged them up there and say, look at that you son of a bitch that was the guys the guys direct quote because I mean every there's a great documentary series on I. Think it was nat go. I could be wrong things you called one strange rock it's it's hosted by will Smith of all people but it has and he doesn't phenomenal job and they've got like seven. Astronauts that were all aboard the space station and they all none of them come back without some sense of perspective that they just go. There are no borders. There are no, you don't. You don't see the lines that we've drawn as as people in the sand or that kind of thing, and during the day you would have no clue that human beings are down there aside from a few different little geographic features like the Great Wall or that kind of thing they said. But at night you suddenly see all the lights and you see where were you know mankind is sort of spread out but they said you, you just get the sense of Oh. My Gosh like. We're a lot closer to all these other. People in communities than we think. But when you see it from, you know a hundred and fifty, two, hundred, fifty miles up. You just suddenly go we're all on this giant ball like we're. We're we're I think it was Mike Massimino I listen to his audiobook, which is phenomenal Likud space spaceman and. He had the commander on board, his shuttle mission who said Hey, Mike, the minute you get back. I want I want to be the first person you talked to and he says be back from your space walk he was going to go do a spacewalk to fix the Hubble telescope and the commander has to stay on board the space shuttle. So he wasn't going to get to do a spacewalk, but he wanted to know what it was like. This. So he says Mike, the second you're getting that helmet off I want to be the first human being you talked to I. Want you to tell me everything that you're thinking of. Mass gets back on board the space shuttle after the successful spacewalk and pops the helmet off. Commander asked him what was like Mike Goes He goes you like it it. was like, what do you mean? He goes earth it's it's a planet and the guy's laughing. He's like well, of course it is. What do you mean? He's like, no, we're. We're like we're on a planet in space lately Caselli you're that far out and you can look at Earth and see the moon and see the sun and see planets in the sky and suddenly you realize Oh, my God we're suspended out here in this nothing he's like we're on a spaceship and we're all like we're on that fricken planet it's a planet you know. How many of us really ever even get to? Even, contemplate that you know. Visibly see it with the naked eye so that sure that perspective thing it's a it's an interesting I forget why I got off on this diatribe sorry than blabbing but hey, Elon musk a car in space right? Does. Thing. And it's silly. But it's like look at how many people were had that that impacted. So many people that day we all witnessed just again, the audacity here's a guy who was literally saying is long as it gets above the launch pad before it explodes I'm happy because he knew that if they destroyed that launch pad that was going to set back their whole manned space travel. Situation all that stuff because that particular launch pad is is crucial to their future plans. Not only did it clear the launch pad it went off both solid are both side boosters came back landed a almost like picture perfect at the same time and he got his payload out there with the little car and we were able to watch as a as a as a as earthlings. Little, car like tumbling out in space. It was just the you know how do you not? I know it's kind of silly and it's the arrogance of one billionaire and that kind of thing, and it's his car and all that. But it's also kind of like, Hey, there's a bunch of kids that I'm sure were inspired that day to kind of go man or you could do that. Finally. Actually, a probably a broader question is, would you ever be interested in space travel yourself? If you suddenly you know had a bunch of monster hit movies inside of you know I wanNa want WanNa take a trip somewhere. I would have to it would have to get and I think Neil degrasse Tyson is of the same thing he said it would have to get to the point where it's as safe and communist commercial air travel to even consider it. But? Yes. It would be an absolute fantasy there've been a couple of things that are come around that man that I might do or hear about some like literally like balloon company that was just like. Really touting. This is like bachelor parties in the sky gotTA thing whether they're like it's like imagine you in like you know twelve year favorite. You know friends getting together and you just rent this. You rent out this device that that it's this company that wanted to have essentially like a giant weather balloon but they lift you up and you go up. Into, the stratosphere one, hundred, thousand something feet, kind of thing I. Don't know if it's beyond the the quote unquote Carmen Line but you know you literally are up where you will see the curvature of the earth and you're Europe there for like an hour before it slowly descends there's a part of me. That's like on one level ago. Yeah just balloon. But then there's still the element of like it's still you know we're best on the ground and even then you know human beings when we fall down with cracker skulls open so it's like travel and Speed and atmosphere and all these different things that enter into it like I don't know I like my I like my hikes and my sitting on a Kayak on a lake and you know. I don't even do Whitewater rafting. So I don't know that space travel is what I would necessarily like you know WanNa go for but I'm more than happy to watch the people who again like I say these uber humans that are out there to. To to to put their lives on line because to them, it's just the gotTa have. A need that in our lives I'm like, yeah let them go do it in the meantime I'll sit back and watch it on watching it on. TV. And with that, we wrap up the first episode of side Jams. My next guest will be electric pioneer. Jean Michel Jarre will be discussing painting science fiction and movies. 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This Week in Teams #OTSTWIT E15  August 14, 2020

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This Week in Teams #OTSTWIT E15 August 14, 2020

"Good afternoon. Today is August 14th, Friday. Are you recording day? This is Jay lease and I'm very excited to bring to you this week and teens with a special guest bath. Hi. I'm Craig Genki. I am Joe. Who's yeah, I'm J as co-host for this weekend team also excited for our special guests guests Stacy dear stroll if I said that right and I thought the last time that I talked to you, I could not pronounce it correctly and I have no idea why so she is a MVP for Microsoft MVP owner of God Point Solutions vocal I I I need words vocal points focal point solution. She also I know this one she does SharePoint Saturday or s p s Cincinnati unless you've changed the name on that so I know we've changed ours so media to The Office 365 stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to let you finish out with introducing yourself because you're probably better at it than I am pretty much. I mean you pretty much nailed it offices and apps MVP. I've got an amazing team. I work with that focal point and you know doing something much into in SharePoint Office 365 so really enjoy it. It's not really a job when you enjoy it as much as I do. That's very yeah, we we're very excited to have you, you know, Craig Smith. I've been talking about the the coming changes or the recent changes with regard to tasks app and planner and Outlook tasks and how that all integrates now dead. As we were talking about it in the last week or so you submitted a session a couple of sessions regarding planner and tasks to the M365 Chicago virtual event, which small plug we're we're very excited about and very excited to have you submit but so we thought you'd be a natural fit to come on the on the show and talk a little bit about about some cleaner and and the cool things that people can actually do with it. Absolutely. I I didn't really kicked out when I start playing this planner and to do and and I even have a little a little trick. I have a slow app that I use an Outlook that even makes it a lot easier especially when it comes to tasks and stuff. So I'm anywhere you want me to start off started out really easy. So before they joined or when Jay was rejoining because Jay dropped and had a technical difficulty you were saying people often ask you questions or birth Refer to things that you can't do in planner that you think is commonplace and everybody should know so if you'd like to elaborate on some of that stuff, that'd be awesome. Yeah. So even when I was at a couple of years ago, and I went to one of the planner sessions and people go and a lot of people are going we need to be able to create templates so we can make it easier and I'm like, I've been creating templates cleaner exist in your life. How are you doing it? And so I just kind of talked them through it and then were other things within planner about how you can use planner and connect them to your groups and people just they didn't realize you could bring all these things together and so, you know, just like creating a template. So I in plainer, I literally have a a plan that is called pmo templates. I create tasks and I line everything up and it sits there and then when I have a new project, all I have to do is go to the pmo templates after I created that other plan and just do copy. That plan switching. I don't have to retype everything. So it makes putting the plan together really really quick. The other thing that I've done is I actually have a one called a project template like a migration project template by the types of projects. Then you can actually copy that project template to another plan so you don't have to do any of it nice. So it makes me super easy, you know, cuz some people are like especially if it's a big project sitting there typing all that stuff into a plan can be very cumbersome. Right? But when you use templates, it's very quick and easy and you're literally setting your pickup except very consistently every single time and that's just, you know, like the biggest thing about it and and we literally use it all the time. So we actually use groups life for our clients. So we typically have multiple projects for clients cuz we've had a lot of project clients for a lot of years, right? So we literally will create the plan inside the group. And so it's attached on to the left hand side. So you got different plans for the different projects. We also put you know, you know opportunities and we put support items all in plans so that we can track all of the client's information in one place. So you don't have multiple places. You have to go here recently Microsoft you before you always had to go to the group and then you could create the playoff or too tight to that group, but they finally added it into the planer Hub. When you're in that plane you can then add it to the same group. So that made made that a lot easier because some people really like to go to the planner Hub, but I don't because you see everything and night, you know, and so it's it's messy for me, right? Cuz I like to be if I'm focusing on a client. I want to see what I have for a client. So they've done a lot of great things and I also love the new technology that if you go into a plan you in the the three dots in the south There's one that says copied Outlook, right? So I saw that yeah, so you're due date start dates due dates and all that kind of stuff. You can import that in into your Outlook calendar and you can see that on your life. So that's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, so that's pretty that's pretty nice because it's not like they I mean a lot of times people don't go to plan or think about it unless they're getting a notification and all that kind of stuff but it's near calendar, right? They're going to get reminded. It's going to follow with those defaults. And then I took it one step further because as you know inside of the two dues, you can have your calendar page anything from your calendar tasks. You got planner anything that I have assigned to me, you can break it up by your day. So I know exactly what I have to do every single day. I literally open up my two dues and I know what I got you got my task list already and then the fact that you can create your own so like I even have my own personal house stuff, you know different lists and all that kind of stuff. I have one place and I also have a job. I always have the same information. So don't forget grocery list or whatever type of stuff so I really love that. But the one thing that inside of two dues, you can't like do a lot with planner you can put notes you'd say I completed it. Right but you can't like add a task or different things in there. You can put notes. So I did a little bit of research because one of the things because we use this stuff. So heavily. I wanted to find a little bit easier way for the team to be, you know, see their tests and for me, that's like if I get a support ticket in to actually create a task for it without having to go out to the group. So I found a tool called I planner so I plan a it's an Outlook add-in and if you use I plan or just the regular one, so there's an eye planner and I planner Pro so I planner you'd actually if you click on the stuff and I can't you see all the tasks that are wrong. Find you when you click on them to update it will actually take you to the group group and plan and all that kind of stuff. But if you get the I planner Pro you can do 100% of what you do in planner right from Outlook off. And then yeah, and then the cool thing is is you also have the option I can select an email. So if I get a support email, I can do that and hit create task when the information I did all through my Outlook and I didn't leave right so we spend much more time. We do in our email than anything else, right? So it's like to have that list where I have everything but when I'm sitting there trying to clean up my tags can get them done and I plan a pro has been amazing and it doesn't cost a lot of organizations should really look into it. You know, I planner is from the pro. It's it's more you get the cheaper it is but it makes life so much easier. So up until recently the planner and tasks were really completely separated for for the longest time. Right? Yeah, so it sounds like you've had ways of integrating them for a while. I planner especially is something you've used to kind of pull those together in your you know, in your opinion. The the recent tasks app update two teams. Do you think that changes the game at all? What are your thoughts on how that will change the use of teams and tasks? I think it will become easier for the people that live in their teams right track. I think that'll be very very important because then they won't my goal is I don't want my clients or anybody or even myself have to go to three or four different places to see everything they need right and you know certain people especially if you're assigning external task for people that are coming in they can either they only have that one place to go. You don't have to give them access to something else so that they have to go there and do it. They can all filter it into teams and if that's where the birth Is every day then? It makes sense that it that it be there and just knowing that it you know, it updates on in all the locations that makes it easier and it's very it keeps it very consistent. I was very excited when they finally made the connections because everything was so disjointed like you had updated in multiple places. It just definitely is brings back the more return-on-investment by streamlining that stuff off. Yeah sweet. I'll be honest with you. I I would like to use it more but the disjointedness has kept me away from using those kind of things one of the things that's the reason why I really wanted to start playing or when I did is because all the things that you know that it had already but the things that are coming in the future, right, you know some things of course, I can't talk about but but knowing tricks we won't tell anybody. Yeah knowing, you know, just knowing that where it's eventually going to go and be more integrated me off. Is that I want to see is my ability to add a field inside a planner. So if I can add a field and connect it to say your time entry. So then everybody else has to enter their information. Once how many hours they spend on tasking Market done and it actually submits the time too. I can't wait until that type of ability is is there and I think we will get their wage. Yeah, it's funny the the way we've kind of hopped out with what we're doing for. The most part is the label so you can add you got the six labels I think on the side and you can call them whatever you want. So every use of plan are we call him something different? Cuz that's our way of hacking the field. If you can do a Boolean value, you've got, you know, six true false or yes knows that you can select from absolutely. I also like the fact that you can do you can create plans and tasks and stuff you utilizing flow. You can integrate flow into some so, you know, you're they're starting to make the connection with that and there's some templates out there that you can do some birth. Teens and all that kind of stuff and you know, every time more and more updates come out, you know, it's just four more integrated. It makes just life easier the disjointedness. I know either side of town of people away when it first came out. So it's a little bit of a struggle to say. Hey, I want you to revisit this, you know, so I'll demo it. That's one of those. You know, like I said, one of the reasons I thought I put that that presentation together because hey this now it really does work for you and allows you to do it remotely to from your phone. You can hit, you know, you can still do it all and I think that's I think that's important because look at how many of us are all work. You know, we've always worked from home, but how many people are now working from home and everything's a little bit different right? And so it just makes life a little easier and easier for a team to work together and see who's got what and what's being done that type of thing leads me to this question. So you obviously love it. You using it you got your team together now dead. With any Microsoft Technology SharePoint teams Etc. Always get asked about user adoption. How have you been so successful to to create user. Wage you're on your own team. And how do you get other clients to use that? Cuz I will be honest with you planner is something that only use if somebody makes me enter so it's it's it's one of those things. I thought I always think it'd be great to use and then I don't yeah. So the biggest thing is seeing is believing. Right right. I can talk about it all day and get them all hyped up on words, but man when you can actually get a show them what it can do and then how you can make a process that they currently have easier. They're like, oh, wow, I want that. Right so I I will do a demo all day long and that's when I set it up and I you know showed the team and everything they're like, well that's a lot easier than the process we used to do and I'm like exactly and you know one we're eating our own dog food, but we're integrating all yep. Functionality to make things easier, you know, we're just not you know, like before we had a list where we kind of put things in and and what not but having something like this and then you're getting automatic emails and the people don't even she doesn't even have to go ask, you know, hey, what's your status? It's in the plan so she can go update the wsr's and she doesn't even have you know, those types of things. It makes project management team makes, you know meeting deadlines. I noticed a huge difference in the team setting deadlines in the plan or task cuz they get annoyed from the hey, this is do this is you know coming right? Yes, and I you know how I am about Miss deadlines. So it's right in their face, right? So that stuff it just makes it much easier for them to follow you've got notes for history and all that kind of stuff and I love the fact when you put a note in and you hit enter that it actually sends out an email and even more importantly I don't have to go read the message or reply to the message from playing I can reply to it from my email off. Yeah, yeah the integration with Office 365 and email the ability to click, you know, when you finish complete a task and things like that has been amazing the other thing just to add to your list off. The other thing that's kind of hit. My team a lot is if planner is being used in addition to something somewhere else. There's a lot more push back so be able to being able to streamline as much as possible. You said integration make it easier absolutely agreed if it's possible to integrate it, especially with how easy it's become to integrate things with floam. Now the the app updates themselves, it's huge. Yeah. Yeah, I so we had a rather large client that they've been they've still actually say you have a SharePoint 2010, but they're going to be right out there, You're going to be moving to Office 365 and one of their biggest things was they were so segregated with everything off. I remember it was like a 17 different tools to communicate, you know between stores distribution internally all that kind of stuff. Like they literally had to do the same thing and all these different systems, right? And so they gave me this list and they go can you do this stuff in SharePoint? So I built them a demo show them the planner stuff how they, you know, roll-up Communications and how it all works in there. Like their entire processes are being Rewritten because I was able to literally knock out 17 different tools that they pay a lot of money for support wage and and and they already own it in SharePoint and you know, so when you can share and show those types of things it can really go far with a company but I never hesitate doing a dead cuz that's the only way you're really going to get good user adoption is to use examples of what they do everyday in planner interviews Etc. Yeah. Now you've mentioned wage Project management a lot here. And and so for I work in the government space and a big thing in the government space is Microsoft Project. It's used everywhere and I'm sure I'm sure it's used in a lot of places outside of the government to I'm curious. What is your experience been walking into a customer who's a big project shop and talking to them about? Well, you know, there's been a lot of talk about eventually they're going to connect some of the projects stuff in with with planner to feed that in but you can pull some information now young lives in flow, but I actually had a client that they were getting ready to purchase Project online. Even you know, the whole pwa thing right when they went in the conversation. They were only going to use a guy small portion of it. So when I you know, they told me what their actual requirements were I said, well, can I show you something so I opened up planner and and all those requirements I met in about birth. Fifteen minutes, you know demo that I put together right so and they're like do we own that? I'm like, yeah, I'd go here and she's like Jesus we do and I and so I actually got to thank you. Thank you, from their seats you for saving them money, right? And that's you know, that's very common though that people don't realize what they have the ability to do in Office 365 and found money on other tools. Yeah, right and then but then they'll use a small portion of it. So they're really not getting their money's worth and they're never going to get a return on investment on it. Yeah that happens with a lot of the tools. Yeah, you know like the Dynamics that you know, some companies they you know, they start using it and I'm like well how much of it are you using this piece and like you have the entire wire you pay for all of this month? You can what you're doing you can do in SharePoint just as easy and a lot easier manage and all that kind of stuff. So it depends I mean, it's great for clients that really use all the functionality and totally worth it but off. Every tool is worth it for every client. So no, sorry you go. I was going to say that's one of the things I love about the business apps is I mean, there are plenty of reasons to use third-party tools as as a as a v like clearly. I'm going to come up with reasons, but the great part about the business apps platform powerapps the dog ate a flex recently the changes to planner and tasks like any you can do a lot with the main license before you start looking at third-party stuff might wage the conversation I often have is don't assume you can do everything but also don't assume you can't do what you need. Like right. There's a there's a balance you have to go into it in the government space. I reminded constantly like there's a third-party network of tools and solutions for a reason. So first figure out what your base requirements are your minimum viable product wage. You need to be the be successful and look at what's possible and then decide okay with everything else that we hit it do we have nice to have that we are getting that's when you start looking at your third-party tools. Yes, which is why I ask is why I looked into something for my Outlook because the fact so I actually did I time some things right? So me going to you know, opening, you know, our site and going to the clients am I entering in something in support and or updating a task versus going into Outlook using I plan and pro and doing it right there, right? So it took me literally something like five seconds to do it in Outlook, which took me 10 minutes to do it because I had to go to the site here and then here to do a support and all that kind of stuff. That's a huge Time Savings and so in my planner Pro literally my first day with my hugest return-on-investment cuz it was so easy to get things updated in the team loves it cuz it's easy it's easy and they're just updating things so much better. And so it's makes things easier for them. And the p.m. And all that kind of stuff. It has to be easy, right? You know, if you if you if you make something very very complicated. You're never going to get the user adoption you want so you always gotta find great ways to make something easy for your team so they can be successful. Okay, so to just build on that and kind of wrap up because we've been actually going for fifteen minutes and we told you we'd only keep you for 15 to 20,000. What would be like your top three tips for the platter platform my top three tips totally would be creating the templates, you know, so that you can get your projects suck and or tasks, you know, I have used both of them. The other thing is they have built-in analytics right or the planner so you can see how your project is doing visually and you know having being, you know having that and be able to filter, you know, utilize that information and bring it together and do a nice power bi dashboard of all your projects. Those are some thoughts. You can do and people don't realize it just doesn't have to be one plan or you can bring them all together and get that information together get that information and display it, you know, cuz so you cuz you still want to measure of that stuff and you but you want to make it easy as well. But those are the I mean those are the big ones, you know, it's if you want to be successful and really utilise planner get those things off and I realize those things that makes it a lot easier. Okay, then so we'll move off of that and we should have gave you this opportunity up front, but just to end out you want to tell us a little bit about folk about focal point Solutions what you guys are up to what you do pitch your company and then if you want to print your event to the SharePoint Saturday in Cincinnati, it's a great event. I spoke at it one year with the Halloween theme we still offer that it's it's a virtual this year. Yeah. Yeah. So we're it has a costumer to we could work. He's a big Star Wars. I have my Yoda costume. I work a first name. Well, I do still incorporate some of our you know, the Halloween stuff. But of course we won't have our everybody dress up there, you know, but so focal point Solutions is literally a Microsoft SharePoint Office 365 consulting company. We essentially do end-to-end from you know, they don't have it. They need it. We help them Implement plan governance user adoption training all of that type of job. You know, we also work with some really good third-party companies. And so we make it very easy for our clients to literally we give them one throat to choke so they don't have to go deal with a third-party companies. We handle it for them and then help them with the support and maintenance and all that kind of stuff something that we're doing the a couple of things that we're doing that are really cool is off. Well, we're reaching out to all the clients on the whole 2010 workflow thing, right? Yeah. I've got a few of those. Yeah. We have a lot of those one point with 300. Oh God. Yeah, the fun project. You got a client with thousands. Yeah, so, you know just trying to find the best case scenarios for them. So that's you know, something is real hot. Right. Now. The other thing is is we been working with interns. So I had started having some conversations, you know with a couple of people Mike matarani. You guys know who he is. His son is a freshman Thursday or actually now going to be a sophomore he is one of our interns so and he's in Ottawa Canada, right so training them and also and he has just went like gangbusters and he said he definitely has a job out of college. I mean he's but he's amazing right and then we just brought on another one from NKU wage is Northern Kentucky and he'll be a senior he's at so Omar's in like a computer technology Programming type degree and Dylan is a cybersecurity dead. It's what we've what I had realized is I couldn't ask him for a resume because what I learned was is the colleges are not using the same terminology that we are. Oh no, okay. So for them to write a resume, they're using the terminology they've learned in their classes, but cyber security. They should have already heard as your M365 right off and they're not so I so I brought him in and I talked to him so really asked him questions and found out I'm like dude this would be that perfect fit for you. And so I've been training him up and he's I mean, he's running scripts need all this kind of stuff and doing security things and it's just, you know, one of those that I'm glad we started doing it because eventually we're all going to be gone who's going to replace us right off and I'm like, you know, let's train them young teachers don't teach them Consulting young and then they'll know how to deal with it and all that stuff and I give my team Flex sometimes because the internet page Have their time in and they don't never learned to be lazy yet. Exactly but they're doing a great job, but I thought I think it's something that's really important. So you mentioned our life event or virtual event is actually on Friday this year you got to cuz we don't give up our Saturdays. I don't know if you guys if you haven't submitted yet you better exposes this week, but one of the things that I asked is my interns to put a an actual session together to talk about how to get a job out of college and looking for and how to get involved. And so we're going we're going to promote that you know to the colleges and stuff like that. Yeah, so, you know and it can be for other kids to come in and see how they're doing it but also parents who have kids that need to get internships what they can do to help guide them. I think it'll be they're both super excited about it and I am too because it's you know get like I said getting them started young and then if they can help others like dead. You know, we took them in to help them and I think that's just great. That's awesome. Now that's really exciting. And and for for those of you listening to aren't actually familiar with the community concept for around SharePoint and Office 365 and 365. It's it's amazing to see how this community has helped people build their careers any time that I've taken on, you know, young SharePoint developer or p.m. Who's first getting into SharePoint. The very first thing I say is I what what User Group SharePoint newsgroup M365 User Group power app user group. What user group is in your area start going to those meetings all set them is too. I mean, it's it's rare to find somebody under Thirty at one of those and they just don't they're just missing a huge opportunity. Yeah. Yeah. I mean my life that's going to be a senior this year. He's been trying to get an internship, but the problem is his terminology that he's learning versus the buzzwords and stuff that we use. It's been very difficult and and the college Is the college doesn't understand that you know, and they have to really start bridging that information because we all know that this is a a Microsoft world when it comes to technology. These people are gonna touch Microsoft. So why not actually use the terminology they're going to hear when they're when they're out and you know, one of the other things that I've been very young age, you know that I've taught them as always learn from the foundation up you have to what you know things in the admin panel settings and all that kind of stuff and how it works there. Then you got your next level the sites and stuff off in the development level on top always start the bottom and build that foundation. So that things actually connect for you otherwise connecting that's dots are very hard. Yeah cool now good advice home and Stacy. Thank you so much for joining us today. I had a lot of fun not just talking about what we intended to talk about on teams and planner, but actually the the conversation about Turns I love talking about in terms of how I got my start in the industry as well. So seeing that, you know continuing to grow and I really look forward to seeing the you're in terms of presentation on page on getting a job at a college cuz I think I'm excited to see what they come up with. That's really cool. I could give you an inside but I'll let him surprised. You don't know. I look forward to seeing it was something we may borrow for our event because it is a great idea and it's something that I have thought about for a while that in the whole track. Like I remember doing a sequel Saturday years ago where they had a track of tech rating for like doing blogs and things like that and doing the different forums and protect technical presenting and those were actually the biggest session draws, you know, how they'll get themselves out there more because everybody at that conference, you don't understand the idea of community and how you need to put yourself out there to have a better to line up more jobs and things like that off. Wait, I didn't think you know cuz I've been we've been working with them to get it together. Probably should have had submit. I actually thought about it, but I think you guys is closed now, but now I just opened its we're open for a couple of weeks off okay, or at least admit I'll get them to submit right? So again, thank you Stacey. I really appreciate you joining us today, and I look forward to talking to you again soon. All right sounds thank you guys for the index. Again. We appreciate it. Thank you. Bye.

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GSMC Book Review Podcast Episode 108: Hilarious and Wonky

GSMC Book Review Podcast

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GSMC Book Review Podcast Episode 108: Hilarious and Wonky

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I am your host Sarah, and I am happy to be with you again for another episode of the Booker. You podcast I want to talk to you about. Well, the title of this episode is hilarious and wonky, which might have you wondering. So I want to know if you have seen the video that has gone viral recently and keeps popping up on my Facebook feed of the Scottish grandma reading her grandson whose baby a book called wonky donkey. If you have not seen this pause this podcast, go on the internet type in Scottish granny, reading wonky donkey. Is it is just it's hilarious because she finds it so hilarious. So she's reading this book to her grandson. It is called wonky donkey. It is by Craig Smith and illustrated by cats Crowley, and it. It's one of those books that has a lot of Salida nonsense words and it's a cumulative book. So each page starts with the with the beginning of the story, and then builds and builds and builds and it. As I said, it's nonsense words in it. And this grandma is just dying. She's just laughing hysterically. She's got tears rolling down our cheeks. So let me actually give you the description of the book. It says in this very funny, cumulative song each page tells us something new about the donkey until we end up with a spunky Hanky, panky cranky, stinky dinky lanky honky tonk Winky wonky donkey, which will have children in fits of laughter. It will also clearly have Scottish granny's in fits of. Laughter. Now the baby could basically care less. I mean, you know, he's kind of paying attention and he he's looking at his grandma, like really what? I don't understand why you are crying or laughing, or I don't know which one you're doing. It is the sweetest thing I love when when videos and things go viral for happy reasons for good reasons for reasons that make me smile and this will definitely make you smile. I mean at one point she says something like, I don't know of how I'm going to get through this or or something. So the granny is Janice clerk and she actually the video was shot by her. Her daughter Fyona Clark, and she is reading it to her four month old grandson Archer. Apparently she has a Facebook page, the Scottish granny where there's a lot of videos of her reading to her grandson, but this one went viral for absolutely. Obvious ways because she is hilarious and she is so enjoying this book. So I'm looking at an article on today dot com, and Janice writes, totally amazed. I can't believe how many people have now laughed along with me. And as I said, she lives with her daughter Fiona in Queensland Australia, and she just, she just can't stop laughing. The book is a New Zealand author, Craig Smith. It hasn't sold a lot of copies in the United States and the UK, but that is changing. In fact, it is unavailable on Amazon if you go look on Amazon because so many people have now because of this viral video. So many people have now bought this book, which is awesome. Especially for the author. This book came out in twenty ten or twenty two thousand nine depending on sell both. So. Eight years later, nine years later, Craig Smith, the author is now they're having to reprint this book because it is sold out so many people wanted, and it's just I love books like this that have I love word play. I love silly words. I love words that flow together in that fun. You know, I love literature. This isn't illiterate and it's not exactly rhyming, but it's got words that have the sound in it. So spunky or Hanky different sounding stinky. So spunky Hanky, panky cranky, stinky dinky lanky honky tonky Winky wonky donkey. So she says, Janez Clark says, I tend to visualize things in my mind. So I could clearly see this poor Winky wonky donkey Clark said the videos now been watched more than a half a million times and this was published today. So that's pretty accurate. And it's, it's now ranked number two among all books on Amazon. Which is pretty amazing. And as I said, the the publisher is now rushing to print another fifty thousand copies. It's already sold more than a million copies since its release, but mainly in Australia and New Zealand. The author tells the guardian. The video is gold. Watching Janice read and laugh was just delightful and like many, her infectious laugh had me laughing too. He says, I've always wondered why sales had not taken off so much in the UK in US, but that looks like it's about to change. And Janice Clark says, I am really happy for the author and illustrator, and so glad to have helped to introduce wonky to a whole new audience. Now, this book, you know, as I said, I love word play, but for me, there's so many other things that I love about this video. I mean, the book the book just is a lot of fun to read. It sounds like heaven actually read it because you know it's not available. But I would like to read the whole thing and see the 'lustration you can sort of see them in the video a little bit, but. The joy that this grandmother is experience in reading this book. And like I said, just watching her laugh with the tears streaming down her face, just if if you can watch it without smiling, then you must be having a really, really bad day or you're very grumpy, and I am sorry that you're having a very grumpy day. As I said the baby, he could care less, but he's adorable, and he's he's fun to watch. Just kind of sit there on granny's lap being distracted and not really paying attention. Well, granny, laughs and laughs. So I love that. And I am willing to tell you to try to find it, maybe, you know, I mean, obviously it's unavailable currently on Amazon, but more will becoming maybe your local library has it. It's probably now even on your library, it's probably got fifty people head of you on the holds latest too, but I just I love. Of when videos go viral four. In this case, kind of silly reasons. You know, this isn't someone do this, isn't someone trying to go viral? This is a grandmother reading to her grandson and laughing because she is so enjoying the book. She's, you know, as she said, she was visualizing this poor wonky donkey, and I think if I remembering the, she says, some the book says something like I was walking and I saw donkey and then it says he haw. And so she has to read this every time and she starts laughing before she even gets to the hee-haw and he's got, I think he's got three legs and one is. So that's why he's a, he's got one ice, oh, he's a Winky donkey, and then he's got three legs always a Winky wonky donkey. See now I'm laughing and I love that this video went viral because it is really sweet and it makes other people smile. And because. Now it's going viral. Then this author gets a boost and you just never know what is going to. What's going to happen? What's going to cause something to, you know, go viral or gain attention. And so often in our society, these days are just there's so much. There's so much sadness, there's so much anger. There's so much of all of those negative emotions in the world right now that it is really, really nice to see things like this where something goes viral makes people happy. Does something great for the author and the straighter as well. So we're going to take a quick break and when we come back, I wanna talk about some more books that, well, I personally find fun and fun to read out loud. So stay tuned. You're listening to the GMC book review podcast, and I will be right back. The average sedan is built with a steel frame and equipped with six airbags. Remember this the next time you see someone walking drivers be aware, pedestrians, don't have armor a message from the California office of traffic safety. The average SUV has two blind spots ways between four and six thousand pounds and takes about six seconds to stop. Remember this the next time you're on foot, pay attention. People pedestrians don't have armor a message from the California office of traffic safety. Now is the time to visit Florida core to get that floor of your dreams for a limited time were offering special financing for eighteen months purchases of ninety nine or more choose from the largest in stock selection at guaranteed everyday low prices, top-quality floors, rock bottom prices and credit offer to help you complete that project offer ends ten twenty one eighteen visit Florida court today or Florida core dot com. Promotional financing available with Florida or credit card accounts offer by community capital Bank, which he turns Paul vacations for credit and promotional eligibility. Minimum monthly payments required. Welcome back to the GMC Booker view podcast. First segment we were talking about wonky donkey and how it went viral. And I don't have other books that necessarily went viral. I just thought I would think it started making me think about the books that I love to read and makes me want to makes me ask you, what are the books that you have read with your children that you love? Particularly, of course, there are the books that they love, but are there books that just struck you struck your funny bone that you weren't expecting them to struck strike your funny bone are their books that you loved to read because of the word play or the alliteration, or the way they rhymed or whatever I have. I probably got a lot of those in my life. The first one that popped into my mind was a book that I found. A few years ago, and it was when I was working with a preschool and I would meet with the the preschool classes a couple of times a week to read books and sing songs and do just just a little little fifteen minutes with them. There was a preschool on site where I worked, and so while it wasn't my main job, it was part of my job and it was fabulous. I loved it. So I was always looking for things that I could read with them and that we're fun. And one of the songs that we sing was called the hippopotamus song. And one of the what of the lines is hip hip hippopotamus hip hip hooray. God made all of us and there are actions and the kids just got so wild and squirrelly and they loved it, and I loved singing with them because I loved watching them. You know, these are these are three, four and five year olds, just singing and stumping and doing all the actions and made me happy. And so somehow I don't even remember how I found. A book it's by Aaron's ns, and it is called hick the hiccup pomace. Now again, I love word play and I love made up words. So when I saw the first part of this book, there was a hiccup hippopotamus who hiccuped quite a lot of and every time he got him us, he'd fall upon his bottomless, yes, it's a bit of a tongue twister, but it is so fun in the illustrations are bright and cheerful. And so the the description of the book goes on to say, calamity ensues when an elephant ascent appeared and rhinoceros try finding a cure for hippos Kolatsi case of hiccups, and it is the gin. The author is errands N's. The author is also the illustrator. So yeah, I read that hiccup pomace first of all. Again, I love made up words. I love. Compound words, words that you know when you kind of smash words together just makes me happy. So I wanted to to read you just a little bit more. So after a we find out about the hiccup hippopotamus who got hiccups quite a lot of then it says one day he saw an elephant with cakes and green with cakes of green and yellow front. He tried to tell her Hella fund. And then the picture shows him hiccuping and that's the other thing I love to read books that you get to make silly noises. So the the hippopotamus hiccups quite a lot. A lot amounts which means that you or I, as the author gets to hiccup quite a lot. Another thing that cracks me up about this book is at the end. There are cast bios as though this were a playbill. And so the part of the hiccups was played by veteran hippo actor, Hank hausky due to a paralyzing fear of fish. Some of his scenes in this book were performed by group doubles. I'm sorry, this makes me laugh. Or many considered it a risk casting, an unknown in the significant elephant role. But it would appear that pachyderm Katie mcmurphy has pr- promising career ahead of her following a series, a series allergic reaction. However, she is currently turning down all parts involved, USA frosting. This makes me happy people who are silly and zany and who aren't afraid to show that Salinas ends anus just make me smile. And so this book is one of those, and I have to laugh at Aaron's N's looking at looking up Erin, Zain's on Amazon, looks like he does a lot of illustrations. I'm trying to see if he has other books that he has written. I'm seeing him listed as the illustrator on a lot of different books. This one's calling the spaghetti since called the spaghetti slurping sewers serpent. Wow. Wow, that's hard to say. I have to look that up for you because I must know. Sammy Sanders can't sleep. He is seventy seven percent. Sure that a spaghetti slurping serpent lives in his sewer, Sammy and his sidekicks his sister, Sally and their slobbery dog. STAN set out to discover the truth. What Sami fines is prize in his this tongue, twisting mystery featuring the slippery letter s. the bright fund artwork was created in colored pencil. Oh, alliteration, tongue twister. I can't even tell you how happy that makes me that is that came out in April of twenty twelve the spaghetti slurping sewer serpent by Laura. Not sure if it's ripe or repes- r. p. e. s. and then of course the straighter being errands ends. Now, I must look and see more illustrations, more illustration. He did write little iffy learns. Fly that one is written and illustrated by him hug a bowl and owed to animal dad's written by him. Oh, just awesome. Looks like he's illustrated a whole lot of books. And again, what are the books that have made you happy? And why is it because of the silly word play is because of rhyming because of alliteration. I would love to hear your suggestions. You can hit me up on social media. I know I say that all the time, but really it's the only way I get here from you. It's otherwise it's just me in a studio with a microphone in front of my face. I would love to hear from you my listeners social media. Okay. What's next? So as I was looking for trying to think of other books that have made me laugh, I actually came across one that I forgot that I owned, and it is called seventeen things. I'm not allowed to do anymore, and it's by Jenny awful and illustrated by Nancy carpenter. And this one is great because it reminds me so much of my nieces, especially my one niece and her best friend who is also basically a niece. She's just not biologically related, but don't don't tell her that. Okay, because she doesn't want to hear it and they have ideas they can get on the phone. They are eight and nine, but they've been friends since they were toddlers and they, they can get on the phone and they will plan. They will create lists of like sixty things they're going to do when they have a sleepover and they just they have ideas. They're going to do projects, they're going to experiments, they're going to do recipes. They are going. To do so much. So this is called seventeen things. I'm not allowed to do anymore. And it starts out with the the main character saying, I had an idea to staple my brother's hair hairdo his pillow. I am not allowed to use the stapler anymore. You have to see the pictures. Also, I had an idea to glue my brothers bunny slippers to the floor. I'm not allowed to use the glue anymore. And of course her brother is in the bunny slippers and now stock. I had an idea to tell my brother, he'd soon be eaten by hygiene. 'as. I am not allowed to tell my brothers fortune anymore, poor brother, actually. But does this remind you of a child in your life of a child who always has ideas? You know, they're just always thinking, maybe it's not the greatest idea, but to them, it seems like a really good idea. This book came out in September of twenty eleven, just just so you know, but I know I know this kid, this kid who is who has got ideas and floats them to an adult this this kid isn't floating them to an adult, but you know who says to the adult, I have an idea. I want to x, y and z in the adult is like, no, because I'm certainly not cleaning up that mess. But you never know when these ideas actually will lead to something kind of amazing. And that's one of the things that I love about childhood. Good, and I love about books that capture that about childhood. So. Yeah, this one doesn't have the word play except for the I had an idea and then I'm not allowed to x y and z anymore seventeen things that she is not allowed to do anymore. Thank you very much, but it just it makes me smile and it makes me laugh because it makes me think of my nieces, especially the one niece and her friend who is again, also niece and it makes me happy because of the images that evokes. But also because. I can kind of see myself as a kid in that book as well. Gonna take another break. And when we come back, we'll be doing one more section on books that make me laugh and maybe they make you laugh too. So stay tuned. You're listening to the GMC book review podcast, and I will be right back. The average sedan is built with a steel frame and equipped with six airbags. Remember this the next time you see someone walking drivers be aware, pedestrians, don't have armor a message from the California office of traffic safety. The average SUV has two blind spots ways between four and six thousand pounds and takes about six seconds to stop. Remember this the next time you're on foot, pay attention. People pedestrians don't have armor a message from the California office of traffic safety. Welcome back to the GS MC book review podcast, where I am talking about books that make me laugh, especially children's books today that make me laugh and started with the viral video of the Scottish granny who read to her grandson and just laughed hysterically and then talked about a few of the books that I've encountered more recently in my life that I have read two small children or that have reminded me of small children that I know. And I, as I was thinking about this episode and doing a little looking around about his episode, I just, you know, as I often do did a internet search for funny children's books. And if you are interested in finding funny children's books for the children in your life. I mean, you probably again already have some favorites, but there are some great lists out there and a few names and books that kept coming up, Sandra Boynton was one of them. She is. One of my favorite authors writes a lot of board books which are great for smaller children and their. I also follow her on Twitter and she's awesome on Twitter, but she, I love her drawings and just the, they're often kind of repetitive and rhyming and all the things that I like, what another author that came up was MO Willems and I know I've read some of his. I know I've read enough money which is by him at two one of my nieces who kept checking it out of the library. She loved it for a period. So I know I've read that one of the I only sort of remember it and I, I'm certain that I read don't let the pigeon drive the bus, but his books kept coming up as just hilarious in ones that people's children asked for again and again. So that's one author there. There's a book that is written by one of the guys from the office and it's a book with no pictures. I think that's what it's called the book with pictures, which. Sounds really boring for children's book, right? Except that it's meant to be read out loud and the person reading the book is then forced into saying, really ridiculous things that, of course, than the child finds areas because just nonsense words or funny sentences that that make children laugh. So I hadn't heard of that one but seems intriguing made me think did see this on one list Alexander and the terrible horrible. No good. Very bad. No, good. Broughton, very bad day. See, once I started saying it, I couldn't. They couldn't get it all out and I've maybe talked about this book before, but one of my favorites from childhood and one of my favorite now the to read two other children because Alexander is just he really is having a terrible day. Nothing is going right, and just the way he says things and I just like to read it out loud because he's so put out by everything. You know, he gets gum in his hair and he doesn't get to sit by the window in the car on the way. School and they go shopping for shoes and they don't have the ones that he likes. His brothers get the ones they want. And the cat decides likes one of his brothers better, and they had something for dinner that he doesn't like and just and throughout the book, he's always saying, you know, I'm gonna move Austrailia and because that's apparently what you do when you're is not going well. And at the end he says that his mom told him that some days are like that even in Australia. So moving to Australia would not make your day better. I know that they made a movie out of this fairly recently. Steve Carell I believe is in it, and Jennifer garner haven't seen it need to put it on my list. Although again, it's going to be one of those books where they take rather concise children's book and turn it into a full length feature picture. So I have absolutely no idea how that worked you. You've already seen it. So you could tell me, but I have not seen it. So the other books that popped up that I was happy to see were Junie b. Jones, and I have talked about her on the podcast and the Ramona books Ramona and beezus books talked about that on the same episode that I talked about Junie b Jones, my feisty fun feisty girls episode of while back. I don't know the number of the top of my head, but if you haven't listened to that, then you have never read Ramona or Junie b Jones than you should go check those out. Junie b, cracks me up because of the way she talks the way she makes up words. You know, she's hot dish and sweaty at one point when she's on the bus. So there's no air conditioning or something, and I fell in love with those by listening to my sister, read them to her two daughters. My two, two of my five nieces when they were younger, and that was a lot of fun. So what else? What else do you have on your book list of things that you love to read out loud or that your children love to read avenue? Read out loud to them. One book that I. Went to my nephew when he was probably three or four ish was called bear and underwear. And I, I don't think it's exactly funny tell the story about a bear and he the pictures are hilarious to me because the bear, where's tidy whitey's. But underwear underpants even the words are hilarious to children of certain age. In fact, I remember telling two of my nieces story once and the more I said, the word underpants the more hilarious hysterically they laughed. So underpants is just a funny word. It's probably why captain underpants is so popular. Haven't read that one either nor have I seen the movie, so I cannot speak on captain underpants. But underpants is so much fun to say, almost even as an adult. But I know for for kids, it's a fun word to say, I love words, love words, level, iterating love word play, wished that I was better at it. So when I find a book that has words that. At just flow together so well or that just clever cleverly put together. That makes me happy. Makes me smile. Dr Seuss was brilliant at this in others. So many Dr Seuss books that are rhyming, and some of them are just silly, and some of them are more serious than have an a deeper message behind them. There's, there's the all the places you'll go book that so popular for kids who are graduating, but Dr Seuss just had a way I think of the book into that I saw mulberry street and just the way that that that builds and grows in the way the story. Describes things so vividly. He was just brilliant and I loved the made upwards makes me think of big z little z. what begins with z as there's others us as you complain. Lee see. Yes, those things do begin with the, I don't know what is it? There's others is in neither. Probably doctors use, although it was in his Ed. So maybe he does just I just love words, and I love the way they're put together and I'm so grateful that there are people out there who put them together and put them together in fun ways that make me smile. They put the put them together in ways that make a Scottish grandmother living in Australia, laugh until tears roll down her face, and just this beautiful moment of her spending with her grandson that turns into a moment of hilarity that I'm sure she didn't see coming. So again, I'd love to hear your additions to this list. What are the books that make you smile? One of the books that make you laugh? What are the books that you will read over and over again? Just because you love the way the words flow together, hit me up on social media, Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter. Those links. Are in the show notes and tell me what are your favorite books of word play? That's it for this episode of the GMC book review podcast. Thank you so much for joining me. Join me again on Tuesday, and we'll talk some more about books in the meantime, go up there and get yourself lost in a good book. Thanks. 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Overcome Learned Helplessness, Teach Your Kids How to Apologize, and Macrophage Attacks

Curiosity Daily

08:53 min | 1 year ago

Overcome Learned Helplessness, Teach Your Kids How to Apologize, and Macrophage Attacks

"We've got three stories from curiosity dot com to help you get smarter. And just a few minutes. I'm Cody Goff. And I'm actually Hamer today. You'll learn about why your immune system tries to kill you. Sometimes. And why that might make you look at sickness in a new way how making kids apologize might backfire. And how to overcome learned helplessness to help you reach your goals, but set a specimen curiosity. Everyone wants a strong immune system. Right. Not so fast, a robust immune system isn't always good for you. And you can blame that on the subject of our first story today. A little thing called the macrophage. The macrophage sounds like I just found the perfect villain from next dungeons and dragons campaign. Sure, Cody macrophage, I am count macrophage. No, no. Well, your immune system has a lot of moving parts and the macrophage is one of them. It's a type of white blood cell. That's produced in your bone marrow. And it gets rid of dead tissue and fights disease by attacking microbes macrophages have been called the garbage collector or the housekeeper of the human body like an all purpose handyman. They can do a lot to protect you. And they have a surprising amount of autonomy. He pretty much act like loan amoeba. They can move around on their own, and they actually eat the dead cells. They come across. So they have a food source independent from the bloodstream, but that autonomy isn't always so great. Scientists have known for a long time that macrophages cluster around cancerous tumors, but around the turn of the two thousands. They realized that macrophages weren't fighting the cancer or even being neutral. They were making things worse. In fact, macrophages are central to the way, breast cancer and lots of other types of cancer metastasis once they pair up with a helpful macrophage cancer cells. The couldn't migrate easily on their own get a free pass through the body. The problem is that a lot of cancerous cells sneak through the body without being noticed. That's because they have a surface molecule called CD forty-seven that acts like a signal that basically says I'm healthy cell. Don't he and that tricks macrophages when cancer cells don't have that CD forty-seven molecule, then macrophages fly into action and totally obliterate them. And that's why one topic of current cancer research is how to keep cancer cells from producing CD forty-seven other researchers are working on what's called macrophages re education that's focused on figuring out. How to teach the cells not to kill us through sorted stimulations. And therapies in the meantime, maybe the lesson you should take away from macrophages is that your body isn't just one harmonious whole sickness isn't necessarily a sign that something's wrong. It can be seen simply as a symptom of the constant microscopic turmoils within us new research suggests that forcing kids to say, I'm sorry, doesn't fool anybody. I'm sorry in advance. If the story blows your mind. I mean, I feel like this is something that everybody's kind of known under the surface like tell your sister your sorry. And then there are always like, I didn't hear you. Like what I've never had this experience. Course, not I mean, either of us appearance. So we're not giving advice. Interesting research. They may want to listen up to if you've got kids anyone who's ever been brother or sister, also probably has personal experience with this. Oh, yeah. So the point of an apology is to express remorse and repair relationships. Right. Well that point gets lost. If a kid is forced to apologize when they don't feel remorse. A new study in Merrill. Palmer quarterly looked at how children ages four to nine viewed three types of apology scenarios among their peers on prompted apologies prompted but willingly given apologies and coerced apologies. The found that kids viewed willing apologies the same. Whether they were prompted or unprompted by adults. But those coerced apologies or not seen as effective especially by the seven to nine year olds even little kids can tell when an apology as B S when kids thought the person saying sorry was basically being told to do. So they thought that person's bad feelings. Were rooted in self interest rather than remorse. So basically that felt the person apologizing was worried about being punished more than they actually felt bad the findings suggest that rather than forcing a kid to say they're sorry. It's more constructive to help your child. Learn to have empathy for the victim that'll insurance in Sierra policy instead of a reluctant one study author Craig Smith said quote, make sure the child understands why the other person feels bad and make sure that child is really ready to say, I am sorry. Then have them apologize, unquote. So parents how can you help your young children respond with empathy and deliver a willing apology? Smith says quote when your child is comb help them see how the other person is feeling and why an apology is one way to do it. But there are lots of ways research shows that even preschoolers value. It went wrongdoer makes amends with action. Sometimes this is more powerful than words, unquote. And I said preschoolers remember sometimes kids are smarter than you think. Mark your calendars because we've got a cool announcement this week we're going to be on the ground at CAS, the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, and you can watch us podcast from CAS live on Facebook. That's right. We'll be talking to experts about the latest and greatest technology and learning about the tech. That powers your favorite gadgets and devices, keep an eye on her Facebook page, Thursday, January tenth and Friday January eleventh, and if you miss the video live, then don't worry you'll be able to watch the replay on our Facebook page whenever you get around to it. We're super excited to be at CAS in cooperation with EM EMC performance materials. corP a business of Merck. Darmstadt Germany, and if you're not on Facebook, then just keep listening to our podcast because we'll be bringing you special Saturday editions of our show in a few weeks to share what we learned at CAS to make sure you don't miss out on the excitement. Stay subscribed to curiosity daily on your favorite podcast app. Or visit our Facebook page at Facebook dot com slash curiosity dot com. All spelled out again. We'll be live. January tenth and eleventh. We hope to see you there, can you? Remember a time when you assumed you had no control over a situation. Even though you really did. And because of that assumption, you just gave up that's a psychological phenomenon called learned helplessness. And here's some good news. It can be fixed. You've come to the right place. Because today, I'll teach you how we've all had to deal with this for sure so you probably know how it feels to be hopeless. If you've ever been unemployed or you've been laid out with an injury or you voted for a losing candidate learned helplessness is a more extreme version of that feeling. It's when you stop looking for work after a handful of failed interviews, or when you give up on starting an exercise routine because you've hurt your back too many times, or when you stay home on election day because past results have made you feel like your vote doesn't matter in the extreme. It's white people don't leave their abusers. And why prisoners don't try to escape there is a way to reverse? This tendency though, and it comes from an experiment in the sixties by psychologist Martin Seligman. When he was a young graduate student. He worked on a study on Pavlovian responses in dogs. You know, how you can teach dogs to drool when they hear the sound of a bell because they associate the bell with food. Well, this experiment was a bit darker. This study looked to see if dogs would be trained to jump when they heard a certain tone. But in this case, it's because they associated the tone with an electric shock. I told you it was dark. Well, it turned out that yes, they would jump out of the way. But Seligman noticed that some dogs just stood there when they heard the tone. They didn't try to avoid the shock. It turned out that one small tweak could drastically change. How subjects responded to a bad situation. If dogs had their first shocks in a situation where they could get away. Even if they were trapped for future shocks. They put in a lot more effort to avoid them Seligman found that this also applies to people the way we interpret bad situations has a big impact on our depression risk. If you think that bad things will keep happening, and you're always to blame you're more prone to depression. But if you think. You're bad situation will go away soon. And then it wasn't your fault. You tend to have a better outlook on life. Overall in a nineteen ninety-five study Seligman and his team came up with an idea called learned optimism which therapists use in cognitive behavioral therapy. The trick is to reframe your thoughts to be less pessimistic and self blaming. So the next time you think you have no control think about this. Maybe that's just the story. You're telling yourself, maybe you really do have control the moment, you give up you've learned to be helpless, try to unlearn that. And who knows what you might accomplish read about today's stories and more on curiosity dot com. Join us again tomorrow for the award winning curiosity daily and learn something new in just a few minutes. I'm Ashley Hamer, Cody gov. Stay curious. On the Westwood One podcast network.

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 All Ball - Duke, Kentucky, Mich. St., Kansas Early Takeaways; Lakers; Former Nebraska HC Tim Miles On Small School Success, , TV Transition

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

All Ball - Duke, Kentucky, Mich. St., Kansas Early Takeaways; Lakers; Former Nebraska HC Tim Miles On Small School Success, , TV Transition

"There is a public official who discovered corruption in his own department. He was stabbed in the heart in front front of the building where he worked Michael Frankie's killers were never brought brought to justice. And you'll find out why this season of murder in Oregon listen to murder Oregon on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. I welcome in God. Leave here and you are listening to all all basketball all the time. Thanks so much for For downloading subscribing rating and and being part of all nation. Got a great guests for you. Tim Miles who's the former head coach Nebraska for that Colorado State before that North Dakota state state. We'll go through some of his coaching history. Some interesting thoughts. He's a very funny loquacious guy who you'll see on Fox. TV Calling College Basketball Games. Just called his. I Game Xavier's first. Win Against was Jacksonville. Anyway Tim Miles will be my guest in moments here on the all ball podcast. Let me give you a couple of takes college give you a couple of takes pro. And then we'll get the ten miles I with college. The champions classic it was in fact a classic he would teams even though they've allowed teams to play more basketball before their first game the idea of playing an ACC game or playing this type of challenge match up November fifth. Like that's what you get when it's too early. It's like like when you ever gotten cookie dough. Who doesn't like does anyone in the world not like cookie dough cookie dough no matter how good they look if they're not done not like you can cook it a little too much? I actually don't mind. Burnt cookies. Part of it was my mom. Burn cookies when I was a kid so I just got used to it but you dip it in Milkin. Oh can still taste. Good undercooked just doesn't work. That's what those teams were. That's why we had such a litany of of turnovers so you do have to take it with a grain of salt not just the results but also the play but there are some takeaways from it. Let me get to Duke. Kansas Michigan State and Kentucky. Let's start with Kansas. You're going to look at the stats. You're going to say oh. Child Body played well he was not very good in the second half and Several turnovers yet five turnovers elvers and Co bad decisions in transition Submit shots around the basket. I remember this kid who was going to redshirt last year played this year and I I feel like we is as Moss. Maybe won't take some of his minutes. We'll take some of them And they they not having Moss didn't allow them to go small last night and I think you know Sylvia Desouza look like a guy who hadn't played in a year a do think that at the by the end of the year Dasilva will be playing some those minutes and McCormack played my concern for Kansas is do they have the shooting. That that's the big question because because y with Dodson and with with Marcus Garrett you know you have to really talented guards. You can put the ball in the deck and get to the basket. Dodson is not a great shooter or is he going to be a great shooter this year OBE is you can make shots. He made two threes last night but they need more shooting. A SPECI- she with Is a bouquet being so limited. Offensively can't even pass out the double team. But they're really long the pretty big inside inside. They'll develop Bob Jalen Wilson. He'll get more minutes. You would think as the season goes on. He's only a freshman very early in his freshman year. But this just was a game of a team that had shooting against a team that did not and Duke didn't even really make shots until you know. Cash Stanley made it three and got to dunks that personal eight. Zero run was really what what brought the game back to the Duke Blue Devils but do does have you know with with Jack. Wieden Alex O'CONNELL al-Qaeda and shoot the ball. Well you know trae Jones gold wire cash Stanley and and of course you know Michael Hurt. WHO had three threes? They just have more shooting and the the basic math of it is three versus two it also like Kansas unless they can play small and I know they've played big offer offer a good portion of his time but playing big has its limitations. Especially when you play against the way teams are playing now which is four out or even five out that's ultimately would would doom them against Villanova in the final four going back. A couple years ago is the couldn't hide their big guy so I I like Kansas I I think number three is based upon the fact that they return so much talent and that bill always finds a way to figure it out but this it doesn't appear this is not a team that has dotson plays in the NBA present NBA player yet. And I think their lack of shooting is the thing that that gives me the most pause and thinking they'll get back to winning another big twelve title i. Let's get to the duties so look this duke team. Obviously they WANNA kind of build around hurt and Vernon Carey carries very very left-handed. He's turning over his right shoulder he's going to his left and there's nothing you can do about it. But he obviously obviously. I mean for a kid his age to have that body pretty impressive. They don't Have Zion this year and I think hurts good. I mean obviously can stretch. How could shoot the basketball? He's got got a little joy beard to them and when I say Joey Beer people like well. He's he was a bust at. He was a good player at. It's more style of playing. Why Kid who can face up got some bunnies dunk on? You can also shoot the basketball. I don't know and I have to watch more like I know. He's at eleven on People's draft board. Like you have to be so good to be a six foot ten face up shooting four and make in the NBA right. Because you're not a five. You're not so that means you're one through four. You're switching on the ball screens that I look I can do. This kid is switching on a ball screens like now. Obviously that calls for you hurt shoulder th there's a guy and he's this kid's a better shooter at this point than Collins. You got to be really really good. I don't think he's bad I think he's good. I just I'm in terms of as a prospect. I have to see some more but I I like this team. I don't love trae Jones as a finisher. He obviously made the big pull up. Jump Shot. Which bounced bounced bounced to win in cash? Stanley unleash showed some signs remember. Cash is twenty years old so he's inexperienced but he's not young good player you know he's a catch and shoot guy or he can go all the way to the basket. There's not a ton of in-between but stuck his nose in their big drive late in the game when they needed a bucket. Hit that big three. Got The big dunks like I think it's a really good basketball team. Do I think they're great rate. No no they don't have our J Barrett and they don't have Zion Williamson. Are they good. Yeah Yeah they're good team team a good team and that made you know. Obviously design injury derailed them last year but that may get them a ton of wins. I don't think they're they're a dominant team. It's early but they and they have some age and they have good players and they have some depth to bring bringing Jack White McConnell. Go off the bench like these are good players that have played some high level basketball and I think they will. They will wear down a lot. The other teams that don't have that sort of depth but they will not overwhelm you so you've got a good point guard who needs to finish better have good young talent. It's GonNa get better have good depth. That's a good top ten basketball team. My wounded said that the best team the country right now. No no Michigan State so look my my issue with Michigan State going back To even the start of the year and the assumption that they would be awesome is basically this last year outside of cash to Winston. Who scared you right? They found a way to get enough stops. They found a way to make enough place but it wasn't like they were dominating teams. They just are really well. Coached played really good defense and then end a shot clock cash to cash is Winston would just make a play in break your break your back and And then you know Tillman became a really good basketball player but like again. Look statistically at what they had last year and what's gone this year. Nick wards gone and I know he was a shell of himself late. Matt mcquade gone. Kenny going has gone like they lost a lot from last season. And I don't know of Aaron Henry is is there just yet so the idea that they're the number one team because they have a preseason player of the year because of how far they went last season again I they have one shock creator on the team. They don't really have a guy they can throw it into. And they don't have Matt mcquade stretching the floor the way he did last season. That's two threes game. And if you don't have Langford and you don't have McCoy and you don't have warned you don't have any goings like those are other guys stepping into roles. They are clearly not ready for. Let's get into Kentucky showy. I thought Kentucky played exceptionally hard on defense. I thought it wasn't just how hard they played that. You Know Michigan state run some of their actions and spread you out and you have to switch and talk and for for team with a substantial amount a youth and I do think we're going to sit here and go like look at how young they are the great thing about these teams all four. Those teams that played last night is is there are some some returners that or you know. You add nate SESTINA. You have Ashton Hagans and Emmanuel quickly to sophomores. You have Nick Richards like these are all guys that have played a good amount of college basketball and EJ. Montgomery really you had won freshman. satires Maxi the kid from Texas. Who took over the game offensively? But it was their connective defensively. which was really really really impressive? Shouldn't be surprising Syrian. How good defender Ash Higgins's now would be concerned about their shooting? Maybe yeah I mean I do. I tire Maxi's GONNA shoot mid forties from three. I don't I wonder who they can develop as a score because Hagans. This is not really a score like a shooter score and people adjust to that. But I like this team. And I do think that their overall length athleticism style of play and I think that you know sustain a- as as a transfer to a place like Kentucky his role will will be different than it was a Bucknell and he'll have to be even more blue collar than he was a buck. Now I think he fits that he's a good fit for what they WANNA do. Especially being able stretched the floor and hit. uh-huh jump shots. I wonder if John Zane is going to be able to work his way into the rotation only played two minutes but they're going to need one or two more of those freshmen into show the ability to score scoring. I do think at some point will be called upon. There's this team is not the national championship team. Defensively that fed everything to Anthony. Can You Davis. But they're really long really athletic they do have some older pieces and I I don't. I'm okay calling them. The best team in the country. Three right now doesn't mean that they can't or won't be beaten and that's a reasonable thing like they could be beaten because they're gonna be droughts and if you can handle their pressure pressure you can. You can make them play catch up. I'm not sure how well they score the basketball. But I also think that they're gonNA make a lot of teams look really really bad and we won't see we won't see that possibly until maybe the Louisville game which is not until the end of December they do they got Utah on the road. Ohio state but that that December Game Against Louisville feels to me like we'll find out if they have enough offense and it gives is it gives cow enough time to figure out who outside of Therese Maxi Do. I want shooting the basketball. But Maxi's appears he's okay being an Alpha and with all of those other veteran pieces. I just don't know if there's enough shooting at the other guard spots ban they can defend boy really connected. They really really played hard. 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UC Riverside You're honest reaction when you see that well first of all what's it like to be an analyst it's it's exciting citing. I thought it was a very good basketball team. It was a great environment. Different Way to take in a game that I haven't got to do and twenty five years. Probably well you know outside of a final four. NTN regional here there so that was fun and exciting I Miss Coaching WanNA coach. But you know I honestly with the game anything could happen. The first year I was surprised about Nebraska but but David David Patrick can get players. There's now no no listen. I want to get into all the all the other stuff and and what it was like to call game your thoughts on Xavier. But I'm just I'm just like what what the emotions that go through like. Are you D- Awam to win. You lose do you like what. What's the honest because you're seeing that the the the perception of you? Tim Is always one of the world's greatest guys and you are. No you know what he says like Tim. Miles a bad dude know what But even the best people have honest emotions and you know yes i. You'll get another job but you wanted the Dec- the Nebraska thing through. I'm sure so when you look down and I'm sure people are texting you during the game. I got you're seeing this going on. What's that feel like? Yeah I got very little text by the way But at the same time you know you don't jump for joy you don't wish ill on anybody I still have some geyser. I recruited did and And when you looked at you know that I felt bad for them. I felt bad for Fred. Because you know you don't WanNa come out your opener and and And lose right I mean you WanNa do your best and put your best foot forward but you know they reset things they move some guys on After the season and so they they brought in Some guys are still waiting on Stevenson kid eligible at the. If he gets his waiver appeared. That will help them some on the rebounding end. But not you know like I'm more neutral to it than you'd probably expect. I'm not sure there's no joy in it for me and just kind of feel bad for them I'm not But at the you know at the same time when you look at things You know I don't mean to sound selfish but I just have to stay focused on what I'm doing and trying trying to be the best me so I can Be a great box broadcaster. Like you okay. So you're you're calling a game. What is that experience? Like preparing of meeting with coaches. You know sitting with Travis Steel before the game like a being on the other side of the table is a new experience to take me through. What you you know? Last couple of days have been like. Yeah you don't spend some other time Quote Unquote consulting with some programs. I've got to see some guys behind the scenes stuff which has been great great I think that that that's been helpful for me A couple of power five schools Second of all sitting Travis. Watching them practice was fun just seeing some of the different things they do I thought was impressive. I thought that he and his staff did a good job. Toni Jask Dan Beret. I've known for a long time at Jacksonville. And so watching them in their shoot around their organization and what they were doing was fun It's a little surreal You know I got there and you know. I have this idea what it's going to take. I talked to some guys like Robbie Hummel grade deal Sean Morris and okay. What do I need your Nick Bob? Okay how do I do this and so I never call call me by the way never never never sanitize like hey. Hey Dude what how can I you know you've been doing this seventeen years. You're just so big time you know. It's an whatever that's that's what it is you know I got to play off. Yeah I don't want you to I don't want you to you know kaminiel tasks like trying to get me organized. Let me tell you this. I'm ten minutes into the game and the stuff I have in front of me is no help like whatever plans I I had going in was out the door. So then I flip open a you know a roster and Amedee kyw quick and Kinda had notes written down on something else and and then just with it that way but So now this morning I flew back from Cincinnati and I got back from Lincoln near this morning about an hour ago and And I was working on the plane the whole time on a new sheet. A one sheet said the two and Seeing if I can't get that organized and and my xl My ability to work on the Excel file or we're document. has diminished over the years. And I've taken other jobs when I was in. Indiana guy could do a lot of cool stuff you know on a computer and not not quite there anymore. Okay so look. Here's I mean you and I can. We can talk off air about it if you want. But my I would just I. I think that a lot and I don't know what other people have told you. My working plan is like and and it's hard now this time of the year to watch you know the previous five games. Obviously that's the fun part to watching the Games and and being able to break down tape but what you gotTa do is is is get a get e- get a coach or an assistant to give you a story on each kid on each kid. Yeah and I I. I don't actually this is like A. I don't know how well kept. Secret is set Davis thinks. I'm nuts I don't I don't I no longer laborde. I don't believe in it if I don't know it. Oh I what the Hell's what's the purpose of having a written down well if you've seen him five times You know the problem was everybody had like six newcomers each. That's the crazy thing about the sports and I look. I've been in really fortunate. In my mercurial path year in that working the kid from Bucknell who said Kentucky like I happen to Bucknell semifinals and championship game like three years ago. Whatever so I actually saw him play a couple times at Bucknell? I've become I'm a fan of the program and so when when that takes place like so a lot of the when you get to cover these smaller conferences guys that transfer up you know their stories a little bit but it's really. The sport is really hard now for fans. Because you're like wait. He's wear and he's here and the freshmen are here and then gone. Like I don't know it's like you said you've done this your entire professional. I've been coach. I've done this basically outside three years of playing ball professionally and it's has gotten progressively harder for me to prep for a season. I can't imagine what it's like for a fan to prep. How challenging does it did it make it for you as a coach with all of the turnover with the with the with the transfer stuff that takes place well first of all the way you know impacts are your program? I've been on the receiving end and the giving it and you know we had one guy that left at the end of June. The really hurt us. I mean we went from a at least in in. It eighteen to a team that you know one fourteen games or whatever it was and a high mazer level. It's not that hard to flip that script and and win eighteen or nineteen and if if you're eighteen and thirteen or whatever it is you're in you're in the nit and you're probably all play hosting a game On the contrary if you go thirteen and eighteen everybody wants your head and and so it's been difficult You know it's obviously getting easier and easier. My philosophy was if you wanted to enter the transfer transfer portal Don't toe in the pool. Yeah you make a commitment. You're either with us or against us. And and so Don't expect your scholarship to be available. You know and and I think that when you look at those things and you decide how you want to run your program buying and loyalty are do you know do do for for for a program and the coach has owes the player and the player owes the program and its teammates. And you know there's search passivity toward you know. I can remember when I was in college. And I didn't even play. But I can remember kid kind of squawking about transferring them one of the upperclassmen awesome. Just put him up against the locker and said you're not transferring. We need you yeah. I like threatened him and But there was that kind of commitment and and that's not there there's it's so much more of a fluid society because of a variety of reasons There's a thousand. It's not just a basketball or not. Just you know last nuclear families. Or whatever it is. There's a plethora of reasons and that's the way you know Our whole society is and and so It's harder order. It's different but you know the more you can stress the more you can keep it together and keep that continuity Obviously the more successful the guys that can do that. You know. I've seen coaches which is go on Spring Break Doug and do home visits for their returners on spring break. So re- recruit their team during spring. Break Genius idea amazing. Anything you grew up in Dolan South Dakota did you grow up there. You're just born there no. We didn't have a hospital doug now when you come in from the West just on Dole and it says population three hundred six and when you come in from the east and says population two hundred ninety seven so there's nine missing people you know Just a little town grew up. There lived in the same house for eighteen years. Youngest of five Just always loved watching you know playing basketball playing all sports but just fell in love with Al Mcguire Dick and Berg even billy packer All those guys were just you know you felt like Al McGuire was always teaching you something when you were listening to him and and I'm fifty three years old and so we didn't have that many college games i. It wasn't until I was a sophomore in high school that we got thirteen Thirteen channels of cable which included ESPN and wgn. So we can catch some games there and TVs W TVS actually So we could see some pro games of Atlanta. You know some bowls gains here here and there and then you know ESPN wasn't showing games every night. So you don't have the consumption that you That you had at one time uh-huh and what what I when I look for is is just you know when you grow up in a small town with great is your mom would would tissue on the cheek in the morning The eight o'clock she goes. You know you got ball practice nine. I'll see you home for dinner at six and you could go to You can go to an account You could go to an account at a at a We owned a weekly newspaper. So you go to a little account You go to convey order a side of French fries for lunch which was a one. I liked And then just charge it charge you go to the grocery store get some lunch and meet and you have a sandwich just charge because you know there's all the payment in kind advertising for credit So you know I was so independent at such a young age the the youngest being in a small town and That you just you know you figure you knew when you got in trouble and you got in trouble real good you know how to stay out of trouble navigate. Get your way around certain issues situations but it's just sad anymore. That young kids don't get to grow up with that kind of freedom. It's a different society and it felt a lot safer we're back in the early seventies mid seventies then than it does now and I know there's bad things going on then but but now we won't let our kid cross the street without you know usher them through their. What was mayvale state like? Yeah maybe it was such a great point. The the P.. They were two and twenty two due in two and twenty two the year before I got there and so coming in and you know we. We didn't what Fred Hoiberg just had brought in a whole the budget transfers division to transfers Jacoby transfers all the likes like that and We had less than three scholarships and we had an old jim that once we painted the gym and added New Lights. We got one hundred percent more lighting so twice as bright. The Gym was twice as bright. You know that same year and I just way you watch practice and then after you painted it and put the new heights in at Christmas and you watch practice. It was just a whole new environment. It was just I mean when you're grateful for paint job in the light You know I think you're taught a different way My second year is able to hire Craig Smith As an assistant coach for thousand dollars And brought Craig into the game the head coach at Utah State now and he and I hit it off. Well we were together eleven years. He was my assistant for Jobs and wait. How did you how did you? How'd you meet him? Take me back to how you actually met because I got Craig next week. I couldn't get rid of it. Nobody how did you. How did you actually meet? What was your first suit? He was a student at North Dakota and I'm as Mayvale about thirty five miles south and he had approached the university North Dakota staff about About being a graduate assistant because because he wanted to coach and he You know just ice. School player didn't play college basketball but but wanted to coach and they didn't having any so they called me one of those systems called me and said Hey Tied Corine was a graduate assistant. Riot eventually hired my next job And he said Hey this young the guy is good. I think he's high energy. If you guys hit it off really well Take a look in and then Craig in the meantime we met. We had lunch together. And then I just didn't I think I could pull it off so I was calling him to tell him. I had no job for him and he goes coach. Where neighbors already moved down here? My wife's got a job so he just like forcing so it was like you know you force themselves me off and And we got along great and At a chance to work together then at at Nebraska Colorado state and of course North Dakota go to state way before all that what about southwest Minnesota state because you left Mayvale for southwest Minnesota status. What are what are your salary from Mayvale to Southwest Minnesota State Me me twenty seven thousand dollars Mayvale plus a little bit for camps and then I made I think forty two. They got I think I was a division one coach for my third year. North Dakota state. I might have made. I think I made over one hundred thousand dollars like one hundred five one hundred ten. Maybe so that would have in two thousand seven. When was the last time you watched your home movies if you're like most there's a box in your closet of videotapes fills and photos? 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When in it will in in two thousand one you took southwest Minnesota take? This was kind of your pattern right like usually year four a year five. That's when you that's you know. That's he did a Colorado State North Dakota stated it. You're too was good in your. I think five or six was was was outstanding before you left Nebraska determine your second year but it was like five or six that you should have got in the tournament your two thousand one southwest Minnesota State team dominator league. You got all the way to lead eight when when if you were to that You Lost Bakersfield or in Bakersfield. Yeah what was that team like. That team was phenomenal. I three kids and can play Division One basketball at various levels and We had Jan Kuhnen six ten forty five and brother Scott was visiting to American at six eight probably to fifteen gene. Jacob Ball was the guard that was terrific. He was the all time leading score And at that time I had four straight jobs jobs where we coaching. Recruited the all time leads for each job. And if I you know it and that was pretty not easily done and that was pretty fun to to coach guys like that too but that team was really physical and it was It was a tough team and and and we ran into a buzzsaw and Kentucky Wesleyan and of course baking the National Championship. Two Years Labor's Because they had three and eligible guys on the team but but they didn't vacate them off. Yeah pretty good okay. So so all of a sudden North Dakota state comes calling right and but they they were what D- The two gonNA BE D. One. What was what was a very good job? Very good job and I was excited to have it. I was looking forward order to it and And we get there and enduring interview. The President says you don't mean we may go to visit one and you know we just come off taking South West eight food at one winning season in ten before we got there and we built it up you know and and like you say you're four we slug it out of the park so you know I'm ten tall and bulletproof I can do anything come on man and And so they hired a new athletic director. I was hired by an interim athletic director actor and the new Athletic Director Was Gene Taylor. Who's now the athletic director at well we we all know where he's at he's at Kansas State. Chris claiming just pulled off the big upset and and Jean came in. He says we're going to do it. We're GONNA strategic the planet we're going to announce it be ready and we didn't have a league. We didn't have anything and so I remember just it was so you know every three years vision independent and That was just oh that was tough but what was the hardest the scheduling. You can remember like we went from here to here to here to play a game. What was the GimMe Gimme the craziest scheduling thing as independent? Yeah well actually. We had a four game run on that we agree to play the other independent teams and so we went. Utah Valley to We we often a Thursday night and then we We went to Wisconsin and played eleven. Am Game on Saturday so we move on a last a second tip in then. We'd beat Wisconsin Thirteen in the country and so that was just because we had a we have thirty minute practice and My my scouting folder was Practically empty on Wisconsin. WE'RE GONNA plan this way. We're going to play our brand of basketball and we're GONNA play a heck of a lot better than we get against Utah. Valley did contact take was the coach there and he was a tough minded guy like he's he knew what he's doing and And so you know when you look at this. It was one of those things that Next year was even more interesting. I thought because what we did was We went so we played the forty percents. So how about that so Thursday Saturday we go Utah Valley Texas Panamerican All right. So that's a little bit of travel battle in the day in between Texas Pan American. Yeah go to nowhere to go right okay. Albuquerque you shouldn't take an left uh-huh and And so as we win as we went You know we got back home and it was literally you know I was. It's like a diamond plus on Delta because of the you know it was so nuts and then the next day or the next week on Wednesday we went to Fort Wayne and then we ended up in Jersey Institute attack and And so we went from what Newark Brownsville. Will the Orem Utah kind of that dot in within seven days. Okay so then then Colorado State Utah. You took our people forget people remember what you left Wright Pierce in those guys but I don't think people remember what you what you took over. I think your first year. You didn't win a game in league in the League was really really good when you walked into Colorado State. Take me through The job what you thought of it. Obviously it's a great college town but it is different from. You'd been Minnesota Dakota 's and kind of that area of the country relatively typically similar but not really what was what was it like when he took over Colorado State Northern Colorado is is is You know a lot of transplant. You know a lot of people from Iowa Nebraska Chances that have moved over and certainly front range people to but but it's a it's a great community but we took over. There was thirteen scholarships accounted for and by the time we got to season. Ten of those guys were gone. They'd either quit. It been relieved of duties by me usually because of a some issue with the law or or or an Jason Smith went seventeen in the NBA draft which he showed him He might have went. Nineteen but Jason went to the NBA. Just retired I think from the NBA a year ago. Or so so we you know we we had to start over. We go over and sixteen in the League and Steve Fisher calls me at the end of the year. Now if folks remember it was. Here's the league you go right into the front range you got. TCU was in the League Air Force Colorado State Wyoming. And you get in the mountain regions engines and you got A BYU UTAH. Right and then you go over you got San Diego State. UNLV and then when Tcu up all aw and Byu we got boys and and so. I mean it was a ridiculous league for you. Know they're five years and and I think we put more teams I think we tripled him on TV but the NCAA and the PAC twelve. So here's what here's what people want to know. What you you mentioned? And all the success you had may Ville at Southwest Minnesota state an obviously Colorado state in building something that hadn't previously had ED's success so if somebody's hey. I want to replicate what Tim does and how he's done it like what are the. What are the four or five things that you that that you've done that's allowed you to be that guy who builds a winner from a place? That doesn't really win. I think that we're you know the recipe apiece the same crates nipple tell you that to recipes insane The recipe is going to play good fundamental basketball. We're GONNA give ourselves a chance to win every night you you know. And we're we're going to surround ourselves with winners to and And as you look at things I think it's important that you know you recruit the right kind of guys that fit you in your style. I think we a good job of routing guys out in the recruiting process that quite frankly Romney can't play. I mean if I'm fighting too hard are requiring too much You know it's just tough it comes on those guys and and so at the end of the day when you look at you have to They have to be able to be able to Sorry I'm getting yelled here. So yeah you have to be able to know who to recruit and then coaching the right way. And the way we recruit them is is honest from the get-go and we don't pressure a commitment. We don't like You know We don't we don't push the guy's guys arm to a point where we try and get into rush into a commitment or anything like that We WanNa make sure you commit when you're committed you know when you you can defend us and you know that you can that nobody can talk you out of this. Commitment is when I want you to come. I was never a high pressure guy like like. Hey you gotTa Anna gotTa do this come on. We gotTA have not leaving campus with. I was never liked. That drove isis. That's crazy I still be employed by like that but at the same time I think that just that by on the front end can help you. And if these guys know what they're gonNA get No play hard for you and you know you play hard replace Mark We Win Basketball Hall if you could do one thing differently Nebraska what would it be the shooting for three point shooting more three point shooting. We just we whenever we outshot are on. We had very very very good years and But too often times we just did not have enough shooting at length athleticism. We could guard all right but we just didn't have the outside. Thank you is. That is that recruiting that something or is it. I mean look the the facilities that you were you walk into this incredible facilities. Was it in practice. You should have gotten more shots up or is it simply recruited. We should have recruited more shutting valued shooting more. I think guys that can shoot. I think that you can change their child. You can improve the little but at the same time it's not it's not I mean we have all the facilities you want you can have. We had no we have all all the bells and whistles of chat tracker and in our kids work their tails off. I mean our kids worked so hard shooting. It was ridiculous But I mean it. Just look at Kawhi. Leonard quite had been working on his jumper every day at San Diego state and still wasn't making seventeen Florida's and he kept doing it more and more and more pro and now he's you know he's got less stuff going on from an aspect of of you know just any class or any kind of distraction attraction and so as he's got all that he he knows that that he can You know just just concentrate on this one thing. I think he'll be all right so I mean I just think war natural shooters wouldn't help when it comes to sports history doesn't change or does it. They come find out on the special teams podcast which is now available. I'm Jason Smith and I'm Mike Harmon together Jason. I are looking back. At the most compelling teams in sports history squads rerouted four against as they achieved their titles. A best of the best teams don't always have to win to make it on our podcast. You just had to be fun. Good or infamous or dangerous. You'll remember the big moments and may become aware of some. You didn't each episode will feature different team and we'll also do a deep dive into what was happening in popular culture at the time because hey it's not just sports. It's like I was heading into my sophomore year in heavy metal. It was all the way to nineteen eighty-one. Listen and follow on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Wherever you listen to podcasts? How close were you to take an a job after you lost your job I wasn't because I I wanted my son. My son felt like he's a freshman in high school. He felt like He felt like he he was at home. You know what I mean. He felt like he was there my daughter was in college. I had other opportunities years prior and then move on it You know I wanted to make a work Nebraska and so they hired a good man. Fred is an excellent coach. Does a really good job and I think he'll have a great success. What's a tuner? Vino DOC Sadler too so I give them a hard time about that. But it's It's one of those things that Doug when you look at it. I think it's important that The could've would've showed US grinding crazy. And you know I mean we had a lot of things go on the last two or three years it. You know that that you just sit there and say come on. I mean any one of these things don't happen we're probably fine. But that's that's the way life goes is the good life lesson and when things are at their most dipping call. You need to be at your best as a a An a coach as a dad. Whoever that we tried to do so if you were to give me one-sentence on 'cause you coached in an incredible coaching league right like the thing about the big ten is dyke that you have some really I mean really good basketball coaches okay? So just a sentence on what it's like to play against Tommaso team in the tilt the floor. They're always coming down hill that you and I said everything rebounding transition shouldn't every day like they are on the attack. I mean pretend that you're on the bottom et teeter totter and they got five guys running down down at you. You know. That's what it feels like. What was an obviously is in the pros but what was it like to play against John? Beeline coach team. Yeah in scary. Because he he was he he probably had the best offensive individual offensive game. Plan time after time time after time than anybody in the league he would he would he would he would figure it out. Okay Okay what about what about we played against Bo Bo Ryan early early in your league. Run was Bahrain Bahrain I think this The discipline And physicality of his team's okay. What what about what now? Okay what about frame. McCaffrey's teams system system system shooting shooting shooting like you guys. If you could you could switch. That would be incredible. We get some of your shooting and you get some length and athleticism awesome somehow trades players Both the okay. Yeah Yeah and he's still got okay. Don't get me wrong. What about painter? Yeah paint a Phenomenal phenomenal mind. I just I think. He's one of the most underrated rated coaches in the United States. And I don't even think that close I think he is one of the top dudes out there. How did they get that back together? Because if you remember like early when you got into league that thing was going after Hummel left those guys left. Yeah they were like below five hundred. I think he counseled some guys down on the program. Got His kinda guy tough dudes it can have skill and are gonNA play for purdue point. It's a great point Brad Underwood. Obviously he's only been there for a couple of years. What are his teams like? How pressure pressure pressure pressure? Just whatever whatever amount of pressure he can put on your going defensively. Tom Green fast paced offense often and he kind of changed it and opened up even more there at the end before he lost his job. And that that's kind of how he's playing now like real reading really. I'll tell you he developed pros. I don't think it would be where he had if you didn't play it at a at Indiana and all the the deep like Ola depots developed himself but people forget like Ola depot wasn't some huge get when they got him right and and the the space in his offense allow people to be a star. Jannine was the same way you know. He wasn't a cop fifty kid or anything like that. Yeah just a phenomenal phenomenal athlete. Richard Pitino Yeah. I like Richard a lot and you know he's got some of his dad's element oh He's got some of his dad's elements and and Re Richard I think those last two years of physicality had with Jordan Murphy and just that whole clan. Wow they were they were like an old school big cool. So sad monitor Great defensively really hard to play against defensively and the Chris Holman I rock solid. Defensively really created offensively. I really like He. He was another guy like beeline. That was crafty. Let's put it that way. Yeah no question about it The the the place case. You have a son who's in high school a daughter who's in college we started by saying. Hey Look I'm a Fox college basketball. I plan listen. I WANNA be a good one but you also said I'm a coach and I want to coach the next place. You coach is GonNa doesn't that doesn't have to be a school but it's what is the style L. A. University that fits you I feel like I can be a fit at You know 'cause I've been mid major ager high major vigilant independent like I. Could you know be a part of just about anything that way but it's going to be a school of lots me. I WanNa feel like a stray cat. The best part about Losing your job is what well alarm. Aw No blood pressure problems I it's It's like is this how people live. It's just like I don't have to Do anything you just have to. You know I I. It's just ridiculous I it's been eye opening for me. It's twenty four straight years. The head coach. Never since I was in high school did not have a team so to speak and And so so different. But it's just you know relaxing. I'm glad to be working with Fox and I told him I'm going to do as well as I can. Like this. The rest of my life and You know certain that little POPs up this year next year whatever You know and I coach again and it's a good fit. We're going to do it if not we're not GONNA do it. We're GONNA keep looking and and and make sure it's right you're going to have your own podcast on the athletic right now. Is it going to be like you and Craig Smith just talking ball and telling stories. It's going to be analyzing stuff what you're still going to be. I'm looking forward to C.. J. More than I Working together We're just waiting for the final Everybody to go through and and you know apple and and and and everybody to say okay. Yeah we'll have you on God you know and all that fun stuff so it's just a matter of all that but cj more gonna be became anymore and I are going to be Together on that. And we're GONNA do variety of things just like I might interview some coaches again like you and I've talked about earlier On you know how'd you like So I had an idea like okay. What's the story behind this guy so some some player that they probably shouldn't have got recruited them and I'm not dig? It's not like it's not condescending. Or they're super super interesting. I mean look every all these okay okay so let me let me let me use that your signature player at at Colorado state was probably Pierce. Right yeah I mean yeah just I. I've read so I'm play didn't four where was from Arvada Colorado. Where did you go see him? He was it. Raw Rolston Walston high school and they play pool where high who juggernaut and Gene score yeah and Like Niko man. WHO's now the CO head coach? I'm like what do you do. What are we we do in Iran and then we brought him in elite camp and we brought we had all of our wings? That was back when you kind of you can get kids. Campus a little easier and And so He came to camp and just kicked everybody's but and he was the guy that taught me recruit guys that come up with the ball crew guys that come up with the ball and and peers can come up with the ball store angry. Nobody Dorien Green and he started every every game you ever played. Yeah he's from Lawrence Kansas. Kansas recruited him. But you'd think the big twelve schools would recruit Jim. Obviously I'd come out there. You know okay your whole Daverson going live or so. It was a great get Johnston's after Kota gets his dad interviewed me for the. He was the mount. Marty in the women's coach. Didn't hire me but kept telling won't be one track you what you know and I mean just little things like that like how would you know that you're going to interview. Nineteen Ninety four ninety five and and then this little kid. That's running around going to end up being the you know. NBA draft pick. Eventually he was not a little he could not have ever been a little kid. Colin Iverson Right. You're right you're right. Hey y'all I'm Julie and I'm Brenda where the hosts of insider's guide to the other side you maybe wondering what exactly qualifies us to guide you around the other side while you did write a book about ghosts and spirits. I think that qualifies but you brand Iran. You're the best kind of guy you know. A guy to someone who is an expert that usually is indigenous to that area is like your homeland. You know since birth. I think that we're both qualified defied to take our listeners. I spend every week into the spiritual round where we definitely promise. It will be a ride. A ride fellow psychic communication humor and lots of stories and other Wu Stephan things we hope that will make you laugh so hard. Up Little but mostly find peace. No need to be is every Wednesday for a new fancy SCHMANCY P worthy episode of insider's guide to the other side. I heart radio is number one for podcast but don't take our word for it. Listen to insiders guide to the other side on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcast the craziest snowstorm or weather pattern you've ever driven through. I got one. Yeah go so So I'm I'm on the road with I'm on the road with a guy and and And a And so on the road with WHO. You're with yeah so I'm thinking I'm just thinking I think it was j Smith. Jay had been a player for us at At northern state I'm at northern and we're we are Driving and it's winding blinding snow and So he starts by opening his his door and seeing where he can see the line. You know the the line on the highway to Iowa while you're driving. Yeah Yeah so we just GimMe Gimme. GimMe Gimme the general location of where this is. We'll wilmer highway twelve and Wilmer Minnesota outside of Wilmer. We we had to get about about thirty miles to get you a town where we could just post up and feel good about posting up so we We end up way and so then it starting to drift to point where he can't rely so then I opened my door and he fears I from like side over the Middle East sears. And I'm watching the dotted line in the middle to make sure that we're on the right side. Adam we thirty miles and it took about an hour and a half posted up. I I think I wanna say it was It was Not Wilmer it was. I don't remember I. It's it's a little challenge Alan I know. The town's name I wanNA say Madison but I don't think it was Madison Minnesota. I don't remember I give give me the flier miles. Go Gimme the player that you that you watched and you just missed on that that Nico or somebody said yeah we gotta take this kid and you're like I don't see it and he ended up going somewhere else. Probably a thousand of those guys. I'm stupid anyone want Give you one Let's see here. So who was. The one is Quan Waller print. It's Prince yes yeah Tory imprint now he goes. It Taurean Prince. Yeah drop the Waller Park right and Taurean Prince and and we had him on campus. Didn't offer him. He was young. I got sophomore had him on campus. We down time again. I didn't offer him and then And then we started recruiting him. I think when I left the issuing we came to Nebraska. He was starting to get better and better. This is a year and a half later and He's Signed ally Brooklyn. Can you've been down in Houston and you know he was going to visit there and commit and we were too late and then when he came he opened his hurting. I think in that Spring. Maybe the ferry left. I'm not sure And he He went to Baylor and I think that turned out. Pretty good for the rest of the rest of. Yeah Okay give me the. Give me the guy that you saw. You believed in and everybody else didn't like I'm telling you this kid can play and and everybody else said. You're you're nuts. Well I think the one that I probably caught crap about was Not every I couldn't play well. Let me think about this. Well here's what have been one of those guys. 'cause here's really didn't have a lot of skill you know like twelve points and eight rebounds in high school and You know a lot of people I know. Wake and he'd like and he could really play. Those guys are hard the guys that are or just basketball players. But they just don't load up with with the scoring staff. Those guys are hard. I there's there's no scattered like I said Ben Woodside. I was a kid who was a terrific guard. That a couple of my sisters were Flat Sean. For this that and the other thing and and he And he was great he was straight all time leader in scoring assists. Second assist person seal. He's a he's a he's a great player I think he played in New Zealand last. I think he's he's done now right guys like he's torn Achilles married having kids running camps and stuff like that into an act of a job. Well listen I've taken up too much of your time already. I'd love to do this again. Mid Season. I'm going to see Blake Smith in about a week a week or so. It San Antonio. I'm I'm on the second hole already. Made one bogey. I'm paying all right. You go play golf. Thanks for joining me. All right be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug Gottlieb. Show show weekdays at three PM Eastern noon Pacific we get to the NBA. And I know everybody's focused on Lebron triple doubles Rick Rick. It's been impressive with exception. The fact that he shot like crap against San Antonio and like nobody points out like let's not do the triple double thing like we did with Russell Westbrook instead Ed. Let's point out that as they develop their bench and that helps with Kouzmouk coming back. That helps the Caruso now working his way to the rotation that their comeback comeback against the Bulls and the Bulls are going to be the Bulls and give up a sixteen run and take bad shots and and not call timeouts because they're trying to learn something. One it's the Bulls Patou. It was the bench that brought them back in that game. I think he's Lebron's playing good ball. He's not as bouncy defensively nearly as it used to be he does play a lot of bully. Ball both in transition in the half court shooting the ball pretty well Agasi with the exception of that San Antonio game we start missing free throws again. He's doing a better job and not leaving his feet to pass says he was early. In the season six games are seven games in like. They're pretty good and I wonder if they need Rondo at at all I think they need to go dolla and he won't play a ton of the regular season you know they can play him some not playing some visit chairmanship player and they need those hybrid guys. But I don't think Rondos that guy. I I really like what Caruso is brought to the table Kemba has been good. But what do we tell L. U. About Gordon Hayward leg and Gordon Hayward Rehab. It's a lot like Paul George that I your back is a mess and now look at how well. He's played the Lakers. I mean I think they're really good. I do think that they need to manage. Lebron's minutes this idea of proving everybody how great they are. You're beating bad teams right now. Now it's good that to get the culture of winning but you don't WanNa wear yourself out November. We need in May and I think the development of the bench is this is important. I think they're out. They'll add Andrea Dala. And they'll be right there. I'm not totally convinced that the clippers are a perfect team. You know like Kenya. You Start Win a championship with Pat. Beverley Love Pat Beverley the junk yard dog but can win a championship with Pat Beverley. Is You're starting guard. Don't don't know if that's actually the case so they may. They need more additions. We'll we'll we'll see Obviously they're gonNA be different when they add Paul George Leonard consistently those two together. How does that look so on offense? It's not good defenders. The last thing is this I just I think that the Houston Rockets are continuing down a path of destruction right. It's like a friend who you have a path of. He's on a path of destruction. You keep telling them like hey dude you on a path of destruction no no. I'm fine and a path of destruction. None of them fine line churn up there on the path of destruction. That's them they don't play defense. Got Rid of the coaching staff is no equity sweat equity with these guys you brought in Russell Westbrook. WHO's not not the defender of Chris? Paul could be yes but he hasn't been just because he makes mean faces in rocks the baby when he goes doesn't mean that he's he competes in plays defense defense doesn't play defense you know. They've lost a lot of their their defensive identity in the coaching staff and Dan Tony. He doesn't even care so I I just. I'm sitting there thinking it's Lakers Clippers Utah. Yokich seems a

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198: We Recap The 2020 Boston Bruins Draft & Talk About The Current NHL Free Agency

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198: We Recap The 2020 Boston Bruins Draft & Talk About The Current NHL Free Agency

"No recording over here. So whenever you're ready, give it a 3 to 1, okay. All right, 321 welcome to episode what number 198 of the black and gold hockey podcast on October 11th 2020. It's presented by black and gold production podcast Network and sponsored by BetOnline. Go to bed online. Ag and enter code c l n s fifty lots of talk about today on the podcast lots of Bruins knows I am your host not bound and I enjoyed each week by Heather Anderson. Hi Heather. Hello Matt. How are you this week? Good job. And also Mark Allred. Hello Mark. Hey, man, how's it going? Heather great to see you again. Yes. I'm I'm in all black cuz I'm warning you're in off of things that put you in morning and just a bit but first Mark have some words for I do before I get to the Show sponsored, but online. I just want to give a quick shout-out. Happy birthday shoutout. To Lauren Campbell and Lauren works at use the word for black and gold hockey.com. Now she works at Nasa issues of work horse over there. So Warren, happy birthday to you and hopefully you have a great day. And the other thing is I just want to say Happy Thanksgiving to all Canadian listeners big day for them up there. Hopefully you're able to to be with family and friends. So yeah, so hopefully it's safe and and you're able to social distance appropriately, but I also enjoy being with family. So with that being said, let's talk about betonline.ag. The wait is finally over and football is back. You might not be at a game this year, but you can still be in on the action about online. A G by the line. She is going the extra mile to make sure you can get in on everything imagine this season from game spreads and totals to team player and coaching props. Betonline.ag gives you more options to wager than any place online and have been a staple in the gambling industry for over twenty years. You can get in on their season-opening bonuses today and start off wagering on wind Division and Championship Futures head over to betonline.ag either on your PC or mobile device and take advantage of all the great sign-up bonuses. And please don't forget to use clns 50 that code clns 50 betonline.ag your online wagering experts home. All right. Thank you Mark. Yes. And first topic right at it Bruins draft was interesting to say the least. So the 2020 draft they had just the the second round pick they began with the second round pick pick number 58 and I don't know about you guys, but we had talked to Steve corny. I knows the draft analysts and talked about all of these players that he thought would fit in the Bruins plans and that we kind of scoped out who we might pick. So I'm waiting for the pic and then here it comes and it's a kid. I never heard of him honest. I think some of the people in NHL Network never heard of them either cuz they didn't have any video of them. So it makes a lower a less shot defense was picked first by the Bruins 1058 pick in the second round. So Heather, I just wanted to get your thoughts of when it happened what you thought was and and if that's a pick that hopefully is under the radar and Don Sweeney smile. And everyone else. Okay, that can be a general thing to be said about our entire draft is John Sweeney must know something that maybe not all of us know a lot of those people we had discussed with Steve were still on the board. So I was thinking, you know, whatever they were. A lot of people on the board. I was a little shocked. I mean it's an okay pic. I mean as a developer, you know for developmentally but like you said no one even kind of knew he's not like a high gonna maybe be ready in the year or two to help you out kind of pick. It's more of the like let's get more people on our system kind of pick and I was a little shocked that for our first picked after not having a first-round draft pick. This is the kid we picked. I don't know. That's all I can really say about I was little like what like that's it. I don't know Mark. Yeah. I was a little weirded out about this one. And obviously I was thinking it was going to be a wing cuz I thought that we were basically addressing some needs they're not for the immediate needs wage. I don't think any of these players except for a first-round pick has the potential to actually be in the NHL The Following season have to get drafted. But I wanted to Wing I wanted to get some more Wingers in the process off when you developing. So but Don Sweeney and his scouting staff have been known to go off the board and and address certain needs that they see fit so often they've definitely smarter than I could ever be when it comes to evaluating talent, but just going on by what some of the Scouts have been saying is is Laura he possesses a decent skating ability for a big kid. You can cover a lot of the ice east to west in a defensive posture using his feet and reach so he's got a huge reach and boss. He's he's 6-3. He's a hundred ninety-five pounds right now. So by the time he's in the NHL he's going to he's gotta be at least two twenty. I would think so that is going to be something to look. At and how he's groomed and so on the process for me was interesting because before he went to the USHL, he went to Culver Academy a new age Military Academy, which is pretty cool. So it's work ethic for me character is is something that checks the Box off on this one. It's not all about what I think they took a pic but it's what needs they they addressed so I can't even talk but it's it's a work-in-progress. This is such a gamble if it works. I'll give all going to be looking silly Soul. That's all I got to say about Mason. Yeah, you know Mason, you know, he did play for the Green Bay gamblers the United States Hockey League had a good season for them is committed to the Ohio State Buckeyes the 21 22, you know, it's Unsure how long he'll play college hockey. Maybe at least probably two years anyway, so you're looking at a kid, that's probably not dead. To be even in the system for a good three to four years and maybe some financial implications are involved in this where you don't want to sign kids approach contracts right away, you know, the uncertainty of the financial revenue and financial status all of these players all four of them seem to be players coming down the road some off all headed to major college hockey at some point as well. And that pleased me the number to the second the third round pick in eighty-nine. And that was Trevor kuttar was actually committed to Boston College this year seemed to be more in line with the type of first of all in the in the rankings. It was sort of in more in line where he would typically fall people said and he has another sort of stocky 200-pound player who is by all accounts plays with a good motor good in the corners go to Greece the areas and plays a lot of competitive, New Jersey. Actually kind of liked this pic from what I read. So I wanted to get my mark your read on Trevor Kunta. Yeah, I'm definitely interested in this kid another off the board. They're all off the board. So we're just going to say that right now, but he's six feet tall. He's over two hundred pounds for a sentiment. It's got good size. But when I found interesting is this is this is his third year in the in the USHL, which is you don't really hear that too often. You hear one year and then they go right into the Freshman season. So he's been he's been touted a lot younger than than a lot of these guys that are going into into college. So that's good on him cuz he's getting more experience in the USHL is just another tremendous change to your league in the United States. So to have all that experience and then go into your freshman season at a b c it just it just really checks off a couple of boxes. They're dead. Youngstown is a great program in the USHL and he's got good skating strength and coordination looks very improved from last season wage is about six foot flat, but plays a solid near two hundred pounds and this is all coming from the Black Book. I'm not this isn't this isn't my my stuff but off he he still has a better shot game rate at nearly 4.5 per so that's good the kid shoots the puck a lot and you know, he's got good speed. So it's another solid addition into the the whole development scheme and hopefully it works out. Otherwise you think of this pic. I thought even though again really again off the board, but that Sweeney always finds kind of random players, but I thought I agree with you in that I thought that I received a lot more like the Bruins like Steve said the roads have a style they don't have like they don't draft position or anything else. That's more of like a Bruins type player certainly satisfies the needs of having a bigger player, especially, you know, he'll grow into finish growing into being a man and young enough you train but I agree with Mark I think this is just indicative of the USHL system and the national team develop a system just like how good these kids are and I think it Youngstown with the program they have is definitely going to serve him well going into college, you know what I mean? It kind of put some not above the edge but you know to play D1 hockey as hot enough but to really stand out and I do like he seems more our style and that's all I have to say about that marked it all the stats and all that stuff wage. So what do you think was this? You know, I like I kind of like this pic. I like the fact that we can watch them and be City. I don't know. It's pretty cool. But I think you know if BC is targeting in and that's certainly playing high-level hockey song. So I think we'll see obviously see a lot of him. I like the fact that he's a little rugged. I like that he is a competitive I think competitiveness is very very important and I think sometimes underrated when we're we're dealing with draft picks and what kind of motor they have. I think we've had that a little bit of that struggle with a with a guy like Jake debrusk, you know, sometimes if you're not bringing it every night you be coming home assistant and I think that a kid like Kunta as long as he keeps playing hard every night. I think he has he definitely has a chance anyway to you know to make a protein down the road and it'll be probably a couple of years before we see him, but I kind of liked this pic after being a little disappointed with that second round pick and then with the 4th rounder, they didn't have one dog. No, Marcus, Johansson trade cost of a fourth round pick a couple of years ago. So they went in the fifth round to a familiar name. And that was Mason longer Brunner. His dad is the director play a game development for the Bruins and he's a former nhler long-time NHL or Jamie langenbrunner was a very good hockey player. And Mason comes in, you know as a as a kid that off basically they know him very well and you know, it kind of, you know late late in rounds, you know, usually look back in the history. Not a lot of late round picks even really snifty in a change. So I think if they can develop someone like Mason, I thought that that was a decent pick. I didn't know how they how you felt about the nepotism in the paper for the Bruins. I think it's not it wasn't surprising. I mean, I'm a Bruins fan but I do like that he oh, he's a bigger young again and he'll finish growing in but he played Minnesota high school hockey, which is really good also within being in the developmental programs and I like that. He's a defenseman. So they're looking forward, right? Cuz the kid the quote unquote kids prospects, whatever. I know you can't seem like they're all getting a little older right like Euro and zaboor all like what are we going to get these guys up in here if not ship him off, but I'm glad to see we're replenishing like kind of next wave of the defenseman to develop. I agree that he where's he going Harvard? Yes, something is he cannot? Yeah, I forgot for a second. But again it off it goes to say this goes to controlling their development. Right? Like they're all high school. They all played in the National development programs or like big time high school hockey game. Like this, so they're Elite within their own selves even though they're in the lower pic ends, but I do. I think it's he's a good case probably that it is good to have the hockey pedigree. Do you know what I mean? His father's going to make sure that he does things right? I love you know, so that that to me. I like the again another kid that we can see kind of locally. Right? Like it'll be fun at being part time to see some of the prospects playing. Yeah. I'm I'm on board with a lot of things that had the set and but the thing is it's it's funny cause I thought that the conflict of interest would play a big part in this too. But that was easily squashed by General Myers John Sweeney when he mentioned that Jamie will not let me sorry May. Well not be directly, you know trained by him. He'll be you know, he'll be on the ice and so on for for, you know training processes, but Chris Kelly former Boston Bruins. We will be instrumental in his development moving forward to keep that whole the whole father-son thing away from it. But Mason and this is for the black book on the I I keep forgetting what it's called the prospect something. I'm terrible Mason has a way to go physically as he has very lanky frame and lacks a lot of strength for a player his size which costs him in some one-on-one situations even at the high school level. So there's there's things that he has to work on physically and I think he's going to get that and often referred, you know, Ted Donato still coach in there if I'm not mistaken. So I'm sure that the development process would be good for him whether he's there for two or all the full ride, but the other thing is is it's really cool for Boston to be so close and the development scheme. So yeah, I it's just another work-in-progress for me and I'm probably so cliche a cliche but it is what it is right lung brother actually played a Sioux City of the USHL had 19 points in 25 games for a defenseman, which I thought was, you know, really good sign in a like a dog. Heather said the Bloodlines I think are key there and I think it could be a decent Prospect down the road. We'll certainly see in the sixth round Riley Duran will bring kid Ruben Massachusetts Academy good, you know seems to be another kid with size and they went for kids with some pretty good size and Serena's the center and Page when you get your thoughts on Durand Mark. Yeah, they all all the players that they picked were over six feet tall and and nearing two hundred pounds so that you can basically tell where the Bruins are going with that they're trying to get bigger and badder but you know not to the full extent of the big bad Bruins when when skating was slow and it was more or less just a melee down there, but he played for the the Cape Cod Whalers which is an under-18 double a midget program and enlarging Academy like you said Matt? He's got solid offensive numbers with 22 goals 20 to assist and twenty seven games statistics very under an offensive output with the Cape Cod Wireless. However, he had little trouble contributing at that level either his skating has developed into a a high-end category and age he has he's got time to grow into his frame. So these from the hockey press prospects black book so good and now there's just another piece that's going to be in the fold. Heather how did you feel about Duran? Yeah again another kids big head, you know, they'll look I guess they're going to try and read the bigger players into the system cuz what their plan is and you know, once they grow and like Mark said into their frames he's going to Providence next year. I think so now the kid that you can keep close eye on will see a lot of them with the hockey East and I you know, just generally and when do you want it's a sixth-round pick. I think it sounds like a solid sixth round pick to kind of put in and they are you know, what I do like is that these all these prospects, you know coming into the prospect pull them young so you can really help their development and track them from emerging from teenage players into potential NHL players, you know what I mean or even stall at age players and I help guide them and it's not shocking though allow another guy good. Well, what was all the people want to say? Like, you know will burn and we got wall pool. You know, what ice cream? That's great. We're just off. Traveling from every town or let's get one from every town. It's a Massachusetts thing, I guess right but no like again for a sixth-round draft pick seems all right to me math. Yeah, absolutely. And I you know, I think he'll play for the Youngstown Phantoms this coming year, which actually the team that cooked are played for so we'll see, you know, see what his development brings and it'll bring us to our next topic on the agenda and wage and we'll move on to actually something that actually has to do with this draft and that's the fact of the Bruins didn't have a number first round pick and you know, whether or not they were to trade back in my thoughts are that they really didn't have any intention to and I think it for a couple of reasons one. I think they thought this was a a little bit of a deeper draft and they could get some Talent down the line where they were and also I think they're probably worse than financial ramifications of do we really want to get a get a kid that maybe more ready sooner or have to pay a little bit more. So I think that those factors maybe came into play off. The first round pick but I don't know how that what your thoughts. Were. Were you clamoring for a first-round pick or I just seem to be okay with it. To be honest. I on one hand. It's like I really doubt if this is how it's going to go. I want this team to do something big. So it was like, okay, maybe this is going to pop off a lot of stuff but to be fair the draft generally there wasn't a lot of jockeying for position that Montana mean like I thought Ottawa, why don't we just let them drop the whole draft like that's what I was starting to think but I don't I feel like maybe because Sweeney's song is playing the long game that it wasn't worth it. You know, I mean whatever he would have had to give up for a first round pick was worth it to him. So in that I'm glad we didn't, you know piss away a lot of stuff to get a first-round. I'd rather just go through free agency and frankly right now. I'm struggling through but no I was I wasn't surprised either cuz John's not going to bet the farm especially not for a first-round draft pick know what I mean. He needs something now. He's got a lot of pressure on him now so khong Just my thoughts on I wasn't surprised she didn't do something big but it kind of would have been awesome if there was a giant bag like they shake it all up cuz I kind of am like in a blow it up though. No Arc. I I wanted to get back in in the first round. Definitely and I don't know what's going to happen with the whole the brush thing. We'll talk about that later. But but he definitely could have been a in play to get into that first round. So obviously that they're still you know involved in what what what he can do for the team so often. Yeah, I really wanted to get back in. I wanted to get a higher a higher pick. I wanted to get the Winger and and it was sold ruined. It really was so Bruins to go defense-first, I mean, it's it's crazy. I agree. It's it's trending it's just like, you know, they're going to pick a defenseman the last the last first round pick was was Beecher and before that they went defenseman with McEvoy and them Went with the with the 29th pick Frederik. So, you know, it was just so brilliant to do something like that. Yeah, and I agree Mark and I I I guess part of the reason why I didn't mind I'm not going back in the first wrong cuz I really don't know who they they would pick an affiliate yet. Like if you if you were to make a trade then you really have to hit on that pick and I don't know if I have a ton of confidence in it to be up to be honest. And then when a see the second round pick selected me think well, why would you why would you go into the first film? You probably going to take a rich guy anyway, so it just it was I don't know if that's probably more so when I was concerned about because I obviously without a first-round pick for fans. It's not as exciting but I just don't know if I was confident enough in that that whole scenario of going into the first round and then taking a guy that's on the board. It would have frustrated me even more to be honest with you on to the next topic which is the seventh round pick. They actually traded it to the Toronto Maple Leafs for the Dead. A police 2021 seventh-round pick. I don't know if you guys had any quick thoughts on this I you know seventh-round picks or seventh-round picks and I guess you can't reach too far off the seventh round. Maybe they didn't have a guy, you know 570s that they could pick in the seventh round. I'm not sure but I didn't know if you had any thoughts on making that trade or free even matter to be honest. I thought strange I was what do you doing if you're going to make a trade with anybody do it and early around but yeah, I don't I didn't get it at all. See. It's not like the the projecting a certain player at the 7th around next season. It's just you know, I don't know if they were trying to do almost solid for a for you know, if leasing them on the raspy ill and then you know the whole first round with the castle and blah blah blah. So, who knows? Yeah. I thought it was just bizarre like again, it's not dead. You swapped them for next year's fifth round pick or something. It was like you rarely just traded another. So unless you think next year seventh-round is a lot deeper than this year seventh-round just seems kind of weird to me as seventh ROMs go. What is that someone in your Division? And you treat like so you're just swapping that I don't know. I just thought it was bizarre. Like is that a sign of something bigger or is that just like I really don't want to weed through the rest of this right now. You can have it this year. You seem to have someone you're eyeing. That was just that's all I have to say about that. I just thought it was more weird. Like like I said, like what's going? Oh, yeah, I agree. I thought I thought it was almost like it's because you can't pass you can't defer you just sent it for next year's and you'll figure up to 75 next year. I don't know. I was just kind of an odd annoyed mood move at the end of the draft move on to the next agenda topic and it's a familiar name that we've heard. The last few weeks Josh Anderson forward for the Columbus Blue Jackets. Was actually traded to the Montreal Canadiens from Max Domi in a third round pick and then subsequently signed a seven-year deal with Montreal which I thought was a bit of a head-scratcher. So looking back the Bruins and Josh Sanderson were connected very often. The last few weeks. Should the Bruins have made a similar offer to get him and you would think with Domi who is a restricted free agent. And the third you would assume it would have been debrusk at least a Brusque in a third should the Bruins have done that. I'll start with you have a month. I'm wondering about wasn't I actually I'm kind of wondering if we weren't in until I don't even know there was a lot of rumors about dabros going to Montreal. I'm not wondering if we didn't have that similar trade in the thing and it just didn't, you know, we tend to be in the next foot don't tend to actually get in the final whatever I absolutely think we should have made a bigger push though. I mean we talked about Doc Samson. Yes, if he we don't know his shoulder or whatever but as we talked about he is a pretty solid player. He's going to be in your lineup most days not anything major, you know, and at least meaningfully contribute off points. I again wish to talk to like you said with a seven-year extension that seems a little much for a guy that just came off major shoulder surgery or whatever, but that's just me but yes, I absolutely feel like we could have easily come back with something like that. Right? Cuz it seems we're going to end up getting up stuff anyways to really get something done at this point. Now where only three days into the offseason here really but things are heating up everywhere but here but yeah, I actually I don't know why like what what is it that we couldn't have offered Columbus and Josh Anderson, you know what I mean that he would go to Montreal unless it was a guaranteed 7-year extension off. I don't know for me. It was definitely a health issue. Let's see how that shoulder like you've touched on Heather. Also. Another thing that has to be considered is is that job Would would a deal like that happen with the Bruins so they might have talked about it and said listen, you know, if we if we do this trade I want to do a trade-in sign off if that wasn't discussed later on that might have been the the factor of the seventh year, you know, if you're not going to give a player like somebody we're going to talk about later on a seventh-year wife to go after a guy. That's that you don't know how history which is going to end up with that shoulder. I think that the Bruins are looking for shorter-term deals these days wage. I would love to have a player like Joss Anderson. He checks a lot of the boxes of that power forward the guy that gets to the net and doesn't take any shit. So, you know, I think they could have done something but I also I'm so worried about what could happen in the future if he takes a hit and the game one. We're stuck with that contract and and wage. Unfortunately, I don't want I don't want to see anybody injured but you know Montreal's really they really stacking them themselves up to be a a heavier team to play against I don't believe that they're going to be pushed around them anymore and burger Vans actually doing something good to to bolster his his defense and offense to be a little more competitive but Thursday, I mean the term was a little too much for me. It's a little too insecure and insurance policy. Yeah, it was seven years thirty eight and a half million. So I think in Sweeny got wind from the the agent that they were really looking for a long-term contract and Mantra was willing to do it and that's probably what made Sweeney Bach. I mean, he's it just seems right now that they're not really trying to commit long-term just probably because of the financial sort of uncertainty of what's going to be happening down the road here and again, like other states coming off major surgery and you had one goal last year's It's a real sort of mystery player. I still think he does check off some boxes for you size-wise and all that but I think you can get I put it this way. I I like Craig Smith more than Josh Anderson and not just because player four player, but because the circumstances involved he didn't have to give up anything for him. He signed into a very friendly deal. So I I like dogs. I like I think you know where you going to get from Smith? Yes, five twenty goals seasons and the last seven. So I think you know, it's pretty consistent Josh Innocents too much of a question mark to go that long-term. So I thought maybe I sort of agree the had the the Montreal Canadiens actually had an excellent draft to so to your point mark about about size and heaviness. They certainly gone that wrong in the draft. I know that Steve coreanos was raving about them and draft time cuz they seem to hit on all the guys that sort of they seem to have a plan and I I think that the, you know, I think the birth You can see a little bit of the plan if you really dig deep but it didn't seem to be quite the plan that much reality and I thought they really won the draft of certainly one of the top top teams in the draft wage, um on to the next item on the agenda and defenseman Matt grzelcyk restricted free agent actually file for arbitration after getting a qualifying offer those one point four million from the club's not surprising. He has arbitration rights that the low contract is is more valuable than that. Just wanted to know your thoughts and I'll start with Heather off. My thought on Griz like is I thought that he'd be sort of a three million dollar player going in before I saw this the salary structures going around and the deals going around so it could be that gets a little less than I thought which is certainly help the team when they're trying to add some more pieces. So I don't know what your thoughts were and just to just as an aside or an add-on to this Bruins haven't gone off. Tradition since 2008 and that was Blake wheeler on a 2.2 million dollar deal. The last guy was standing Heinen and they settled before arbitration for I believe two point eight months. So typically the Bruins don't like to go to arbitration when your your thoughts Heather on whether or not you think they will and what'd you think was like may get I gotta be honest. If I'm Matt grzelcyk after watching whatever just went down with crude the fact that our captain we had no word on whether he's getting re-signed whatever else I feel like a contract was a I get it's the you know, qualifying offer or whatnot. But Matt grzelcyk, I agree with you. I thought would be more they would give him something kind of like Craig Smith had like three four three or something like that. You know, that's kind of a bridge, you know, like Hey, we're all on the take one for the team mentality with our thing, but that's low. They only offered him like one for something that Matt grzelcyk is worth way more to this team and out in the league than that. So I think they'll settle before they actually get to that point because like Heinen did but I really think you are at least a two-month like you got any given him to 4 or give them to you know, that's I mean, he's proved his Worth to your team. He's worth at least two if you look at the quote unquote comparables, they always say out there on the market. He's definitely at least a two-million-dollar second pairing or whatever defenseman and I'm starting to think like is swing and I'm trying to dick this whole team that I'm sorry, but that's what I'm starting to think. So sorry boys move on. I'm having a hard week on my defensive side here. So don't make you can't so what do you guys offer? I think it's too low ball. That's kind of seems a little too low for me. Well in a salary cap world and and what they're trying to do right now and and twenty twenty and how everything is so compressed wage. I think that they are they were doing it smart to give him a qualifying offer which he accepted. He did accept that so it means that he wants to work with the team but it comes down to a whole dollar value and when that being said believe it or not an Arbiter really goes the trend or the or the percentage goes towards the player very long. Early, do they go in favor of the organization but like Matt brought up earlier. We haven't gone to arbitration with a player since 2008, correct? So so my my theory is is they offered them the qualifying office to say 1.5. He'll probably except right before they go to arbitration at 2.5 deal which is about at all. I was thinking the 3.3 to 3.5 million over the summer. So that's really not a bad range to be and so it will see what happens. I mean, I mean that that's a good defenseman and he's now you're you're fall back on that type of player that can be mobile has the speed maybe, you know, a little defensive Sounder, but you know, if you comparing apples to oranges he he's pretty much comparable to what we lost so On the on the other hand, you know the Bruins are kind of in a bind on the left side and Matt grzelcyk has some potential I think to be more than he's been a third pair, you know, basically sneak in projecting and maybe he could be first pair. I don't I don't quite think so just because of the size and and along wear and tear of the season but I think he you are in a little bit of a bind, you know, you're not heavy on the left side like you are on the right side. So that sort of you know, you sort of sort of you know, you just need to see what the deal is to see if you can make a deal but you kind of have to make the deal because you need we really need macros off this season, especially if you can't turn debrusk into a defenseman or or fill that hole, however, you see fit if you if you if you sign Taylor all across a million a year not going to have a lot of money left over for other guys on that left side. And I mean you bring showered back you can't be a top-pair. I'm sorry. I love z a lot, but you can't you just can't do it so long. And I don't know if bracelet can do it. But you need a combination of those two guys to fill that spot if you can't so it's an interesting. It's sort of an interesting deal. You also could look back and say the guys who they've gone arbitration when they've quickly gotten rid of later. I don't know if that's a coincidence or if that's something that happens and and leave sort of a mock. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Grizzly. I think he's a good player. I think he's valuable even more valuable than he probably should be based on the circumstances and it'll be interesting to see if they can work out a deal on that. I do want to say though. You know what I'm sick of hearing and everything. This isn't this is a general like everyone's saying that well that's weird because each other team seems to be able to be getting something done like something major to kind of show up there to go whenever they need to do and we're the only ones so now I am starting to feel like I want to fight with John Sweeney because I thought Feel like you can't do both. You can't go big or stay home. And that's exactly what you do. You kind of stay in the middle. So I'm sick of hearing that we can't do it when I'm watching everyone else sign. There are a phase with County Fair deals and everything else. So that's all I wanted to say before we move on to the next signing because my head wants to explode. Yeah. This is not what I needed on Friday night the next two items. Thank you very much when she comes to the salary cap, every team has their own philosophy. It's you know, it's it's it's different. It's not all the same. So the Bruins are so into creating cap-friendly deals to have the will go room to make sure that they can do something at the trade deadline. But in my opinion and I will I want to fight. When you myself to just for the time I'm kidding of course, but just this purpose is If we don't I mean we got somebody and what to talk about it later. I'm I keep bringing stuff up, but Sooner or later these free agents out there going to be looking at Boston and say listen, I could go there for sure short-term deal, but then my other contract I want to stick around is probably going to be talked down to because they do the you know, the Team friendly thing so that to me possibly could deter us some some high-profile free agents from coming here so hungry, I think that their philosophy needs to change a little bit and and whether that be in the front office, I'm I'm wrong with that. I you know, I like Dawn speaking and everything. It's a great guy, but sometimes I just really think that his his his just the way he does things and the way the the management does think it's just it's not up to par so but they are in a better position than I am, but we'll see what happens but it's it is frustrating. I I do understand other. Yeah, and I and I I agree it it you raise a really good point about the free agents coming and then looking to extend further of people around the league see that and I also think it it's just interesting to Bergeron called Craig Smith and talk to him about the fed and how guys do things a certain way and buy into you know the system and taking a little bit less in worked. But as Bergeron these guys leave I don't think I think you've already seen inventory proved is that eventually you don't have guys who are going to take discounts. So I think that this Court House Inn Bergeron's been a big factor, maybe even more than we thought when it comes to taking lesser money as past question acted as marketing did is Sherry has done so often crude not taking less and now other guys, maybe not coming or seeing the handwriting on the wall. I think it raises a really good point that that maybe it does affect birth. You know people signing here and then will they be fully committed because the team isn't fully committed to them sort of thing. So raises an interesting Dynamic that you paid for a lump and didn't really think of it that way but it all sort of comes together. When you think of the core like Bergeron who have taken less money and then they can talk to players and say hey take less money. We did we're in this together and it's worked to a point, but maybe it's not working so much anymore. So that's an interesting interesting thought a guy who's been around for a while. He hasn't been on the ice as we wanted to next conflict is Kevin Miller defenseman who feel like he feels like he hasn't played for the better part of two years has shoulders that are about to just disintegrate and but he was brought back hand sort of a surprising move for me and they bring him back for a one-year deal bigger was and it was captured a 1.25 wage. Million as a depth peace. I I like Kevin Miller and I and I feel terrible for what how his career is gone and so forth and he is a tough tough player. He does bring an element of toughness to the defensive Corps, which I think they miss I just think they have some young guys who I'd rather see in there and I think they have enough especially on the right side. It's just I don't know. I I feel like a jerk for saying this but I just think the time for Kevin Miller is done and I think this is a Sentimental move and I think they've done this a few times players when they feel a little sentimental value there and I don't know Mark. I I I like Kevin Miller to a point but I like them free years ago. I mean right now we've 33 he's coming off major injury. He hasn't played a long time. I don't know if this is a guy that you really want to invest anything and to be honest. Yeah. I'm not a fan of this at all. I this is a buddy buddy thing in my life. And then this is you've really grinded for this organization. You've did everything that you needed to do from Providence up to the NHL level. And this is a I believe a pat-on-the-back kind of thing. And yeah, I mean, I I understand the depth. I understand it. It's a low cap, but speaking of that cap cap friendly came out not too long because they didn't have the implications of what the contract structure was going to be like concerning bonuses, but his actual TV which which is just pissed me off even more about this page actually two million dollars. Yeah, but his cap hits 125. So if you look if you look at if you look at the the bonus details games played bonus. He gets $550,000 for ten games. No, I'm sorry. He gets $550,000 in bonuses. Ten games 250k 20 games 125k 30 Games 100K forty games 75k playoff bonus 200k and if the club qualifies for the playoffs and the and the player played in 50% Of the games he gets another thing and a contract note. We show Miller having a $250,000 signing bonus when when he's actually on the back on a roster bonus, which is it's it's totally weird. Yeah, so I'm hoping out in two different different sort of touch points where he gets to a certain point and but I I agree with you, you know, it's it's still a little bit of a lot to invest and I don't know how they're happy or a defenseman van. And uh, I think if it was on the left side, I I I would think about it a lot more as it would make sense a little bit more but on the right side, I just don't think you need this to be honest. Okay, so I know probably the listeners a waiting for me to melt on during the Tory crew talk which will happen. I noticed Mark can't even say Tori crew cuz he doesn't want me to start number. That's fine. But thank you. I appreciate that brother cuz you know, it's rough but this makes my head want to explode no offense to Kevin Miller and I have made very clear how I feel about Kevin milk have the Miller's a lovely man, but there is a hundred and fifty two other can stand up big kind of defenseman on the team and I agree that this is totally a loyalty contract. And the reason it makes me want to split my head open is you haven't even had a game in two years and you're going to give Matt grzelcyk one for as a qualifying offer and you're gonna who isn't injured and he's been consistently in your lineup. You gonna let Torey Krug walk over a year to give Kevin Miller up to two million dollars. If you play 10 games, give me a break. I want Charlie to have that contract before I want him to have that contract and I agree with you. It's not like he's going to a gym. Of the left side. Now, we have all the oh, this is a shock of shocks. We're right defenseman heavy again. And the left side is looking like it's about to disappear. I mean Jesus cherry doesn't have a contract is gone Grizzly, who knows, you know, I just this contract for all the reasons Mark just listed. I just this is the point in which Don Sweeney and I so I waited around patiently all day on Friday for something to happen to have Kevin Miller in kind of a mercy contract get re-signed that's ridiculous to me. I just it's no offense to Kevin Miller like it sucks how it's all gone down with your career really does suck. You know what I mean? I understood when we had to even keep Miller & McQuade cuz they're kind of the same player. I get that but you're going to like Krug walk. You're going to maybe like Grizzly go end up out in the you know, which they'll probably settle and that's fine. But we seat till maybe waste this one point two two two million dollars like I need a giant Pickaxe shoved inside of my head right now. Like this is I don't know what they're doing. I don't know. I normally Trust on Sweeney but then you sign Kevin Miller on the first day of free agency. Like Iraq does nobody want to play in Boston and I'm starting to think no one does for all the reasons Mark said before as Bergeron in them start going away. It's not going to be attractive. Even if you get a new training facility and all these other things, I'm sorry. I have no words cuz I do not understand the signing like I would rather take that extra mail. If you're not going to sign Torey Krug and go get Petra Angelo know what I mean. Like Jesus. What are you thought we doing? I don't know what we're doing and you're right defense is very important to me and I I'm starting to melt down just generally about our defense. What is going on with this Kevin Miller bottom at I'm sorry. I think it's a match point. I think it's a it's a funny. It's a buddy deal and it's a it's a thanks for your for everything you've done for us and really try really hard to get off. In the united sense of worth and put you what your body on the line for us. I think that's in luck. It's only 1.25 million cap. Can I get it? Like it's not a $5,000 deal. But you get if you start playing that game gets it can get a little dicey and you can get caught with your pants down if you keep if you do the same thing with with a guy like a Kevin Miller and again, he hasn't played a couple of years. So I I think you're going to need every ounce of money you get and when you have about eleven million left right now and after a snack Miller signings and if you sign hold for like seven now, you're done before with depressed and gross up there. I mean, it's the money goes quick and you were in a good spot to begin with but the money goes quick especially for the box here next year. You're in a better spot but this year and all you can get you can be up against it. If you can't move a couple of guys, you can't move jungles contract makes it now they they have Miller and log Orange on war right now a four million dollars against account like to a minute just that's just not good not smart hockey know it's like business. So I I again it's not a knock on Kevin Miller. I respect them for for working so hard to get back at it respect the way he plays hooked up guide, but I don't know. I think you have seen young guys who I'd rather have in their books because I'm interested in the Samsung 65 games then Kevin Miller and cuz he won't be in their sixty five games. They'll be hurt with an aching and then you're stuck with this money. So I'm just not a fan breach crazy. I mean it just it's just not I don't know. It's just not and again, I feel nitpicky because it's really not a lot of money but it's just think it's it's not it's just not something that you need to do is just not something that you need to do and it's like you see if you got rid of John Morris contract yesterday and then said, okay. Do you have another will give you one point two five? I feel a little bit better about it, but but you're not really getting birth. Recon drinks and you kind of sliding that in with Charleton there and you know, there's a lot of sort of pieces still to be to be done in like just about them. Next on the agenda is the departure of Torey Krug and finally and it's sort of out of the blue so to speak and plan intended. Yeah, that's what the st. Louis Blues hockey team. That really wasn't on the radar there. But I think when they got sort of to the point where they thought that Alex pietrangelo was not coming down then they went to a plan B that sorta was off the radar on a bit for me and sign Tory Group of Seven million. Sorry seven years and 4 6 and 1/2 million per year. So I my thought was this in Tory Burch had some interesting comments saying that the Bruins offered him a year ago and then really didn't come back to the offer and ended up pulling it later on when all we sort of heard about what room was was that there were still home. On The Wire that the Bruins were giving a little bit more of an offer and then gives one final offer and it's still on the table and still open at coming back but didn't seem like that was really the case off again. I said this all along I'm okay with it. I'm okay with not investing seven million dollars seven years rather to a thirty-year-old undersized defenseman off in a grand scheme of things isn't really a great defenseman so to speak and I've also looked at some numbers Power Play Lies where the top-line power-play TalkBack unit is actually had just as good production with a not there and it's really centered on the floor words rather than him. So there's been some interesting stats going around interesting information about that. Look, I think he's a good player and I think that he MLK with him and you know, even at 5 and 1/2 6 but like five years would make me feel a lot better than seven. So if they want to if the bridge to investing in then that's fine. But I'm I'm okay with it, but it was just odd that it was Saint Louis after all that losing to them in the Cup Final and the the whole Robert Thomas situation when he ran him over and it just seemed like a team out of the blow. So I don't know. I don't know whether that just really hurts you so I'll give you the floor on this one. Okay, I'm going to need a minute voice. I'm sorry. Okay. First of all, I'd like to thank tone crib for a service. I know he's probably not lessening but it's not just me a lot of Bruins fans. I think as Matt you just pointed out. We're more shocked that this happened. I knew this was a possibility and I'm a grown up and I am a super sports fan, but I can also separate reality from whatever like the Life Will Go On Tour a cruise to st. Louis blue. We knew he could be not here. Thank God. He's not a montage. Canadian okay. I'm talking about one. If anyone's wondering I'm not doing okay, especially after Kevin Miller in this for me the biggest thing of this whole entire thing is how Shady this all went down. Right? So for a year, we've been led to believe the Bruins and crew have been in talks and as a fan base even Friday, right all of us are like, okay, what's up with, you know, whatever only to find out that they had, you know, this is a tale of two process. Right? So Torey Krug basically comes out and says, they pull my offer that they offered me a year ago didn't even come back and we kept hearing how he seemed on board of like, okay after the playoffs after we get back in the plane, you know, it didn't seem like Torey Krug wasn't playing the I want to be team-friendly now, we all agree seven years, even I as a tour approval of our seven years is a long time, right but as Mike has pointed out on Twitter the last couple of days you couldn't have dropped a seven mil six mil contract on him. Like he would have stayed. You know what I mean? He's he's leaving the only team he's ever known after birth. I mean it's nine seasons of being on the actual team of eleven years of being in the system and in Providence and stuff that to me sends exactly the message that Mark was talking about. Yeah, we're loyal to you to a point. You know, now don't Sweeney says, hey we couldn't come to term and rear Admiral put the funniest thing. Yeah, like seven years not term, you know to me I'm most upset it went down like this month. And also now there's like the boys are tweeting each other and instagramming each other with all the sad goodbyes. I can't deal with it again. It doesn't make sense to me. You're going to sign Kevin Miller who hasn't been on the ES1 damn time. Right, but you're not going to maybe give Torey Krug 746 cuz I guarantee you if you offered them 746 you would have taken it and I do agree that maybe six is even a little encores age, but I can't dance with he's acting shady this week. Okay, even yesterday with Chara's kind of like, oh, yeah, you know, whatever. Charlie deserves the one to more than Kevin Miller does not to be a bitch. Excuse my language. I'm trying not to swear Mark. I really really am so sorry. Sorry. I think the thing that upsets me most about Torey Krug and go off on him. Right? We all agree Torey Krug deserves as money. Okay. So if it took one year an extra 500, whatever it is good for him, but to have him the news of him signing with Saint Louis break why you have Kevin Miller giving his presser about reciting with the Bruins. You guys are so lucky you can't seem to right now cuz I'm stuck to lose. My that is ridiculous and then white or a cruise giving us presser as the new and when I saw st. Louis defense and that's when I started just I can't deal with this right now. They break the light Bank Story video coming from NHL Bruins.com. Hey, here's a you can't see anybody has a double middle finger to all of you and the Bruins organization at this point. Like that's not it's j d. Okay, I'll shut up now and let somebody else talk but it's just Shady. Don Sweeney is acting very shady the last four or five days. And I don't know what the truth is why The Croods truth is the real truth a dawn Sweeney's is in the real truth. But either way this isn't a good luck on the ruins. I don't think cuz if you're not going to be loyal to play a like Torey Krug who synonymous with at this point with the Bruins again, that's to what my mom said. It's going to make future free agency. Like well if I'm not Bergeron or Marshall and then what the hell do I want to play in Boston and play the tax and all this other crap, you know, sorry. All right, I'll show it office or story. I love you. All right. It is what it is. I kind of thought we were going to lose him anyway, but I think it's very shameful that they didn't get anything for him. All these talks of trade-off. Reading his rights for a draft pick. I thought would have been a little more suitable, but wait until the eleventh hour and nothing happening. And then he pulls the trigger on signing with the the st. Louis Blues was a little unfortunate. I'm definitely going to miss Torrey, you know, he wasn't my favorite defense but not my favorite player, but he played a a pretty key role on the PowerPlay. He was a point-per-game her and some of those some of those defenseman like him just don't grow on trees. So hopefully we can find a replacement for him and those numbers and that power play production. But I you know, when you want to make certain moves forward and you want to address certain needs like like full words and so on you need to obviously have the cap space to do it. So this is probably a cash moved to by not keeping him around and having some flexibility on addressing those needs. I just said so I thought it was a little shady on how everything came out whether wage Sure, we're not who knows we're not we're not in the room. But if the Bruins did not have any words with him for a whole year in the reports coming out that what three weeks ago that they offered them six-by-six and then they pulled it. Well, then that's just bulshit before hitting and that's on the media to serve the the the controversy that's going on in Boston right now. So we'll see what happens. But you know, it's it was a good run. It was a good run and and hopefully he's going to be a better defenseman in st. Louis because those guys obviously may have seen how Saint Louis can play especially in the playoffs. They're real hard rugged team. So for every Torey Krug mistake, they'll be wanting big guy right there to make up for it so long, you know best of luck to him and and family and and I wonder if he's going to name his dog Bush now, I think it boils down to the dog. Ruins had a difference heavy. They're they're thought on Torey Krug as a player changed during this past season. I think that last if it's true that they offered in the year-ago for that pretty fair deal, which I thought would it was fair that he didn't have a great postseason the bubble. He just didn't play that well and it looked like he was getting bounced around a bit and all the fears that you have one on your side of the fence been seem to come to fruition against Tampa Bay in this last series in the second round and I think that often thought gee I think things changed and I think that the Bruins in that scenario thought okay, two years two years now in a row, we've lost to a heavier team in here comes down the pipeline and we've offered him last year because he was a very good they had before but now it just didn't seem like he played as well and I think that they hadn't changed a little bit of a game. Change of philosophy and change of heart and a realization that we gotta get a little bigger, you know, if we're going to put this kind of money into players then they have to we have to be heavier and bigger and playing More Physical style. And I think that that's I think is sort of lines up that way that that's probably what happened and why it wasn't Revisited even in the last few weeks here with him. So I'm thinking that that's what the cause was of sort of looking a little shady and weird, but I think that they were in a position where they said, you know, what we've been fighting it and we had to get back to more physicality in to sign this guy anywhere long-term seven years, whatever the big deal is just not in line with what we need to do going forward and everything else sort of Point bigger and more physical grinding sort of style and it wouldn't have lined up that way. So I'm thinking that maybe that's the case. I think they like Tori a lot and I think the saddest song No, but the business side of it, I think they went a different route. And I think when you go a different route, it's hard to tell the plan. What do you say like? Yeah, we we offered you a year ago, but now we we don't want to do it anymore, So it's it led to an awkward situation and I feel bad for Tori cuz he he was an underdog Boston loves underdogs fans love my dogs and he was an underdog four years under sized undrafted free agent the whole thing and that's part of the reason why the fans love them so much but I think if you take a step back, you can't you can't get to the point. We took him in and overpay him and then commit too long to him and I think that that's really what it boiled down to the Bruins. It's okay if they take that money and go somewhere else with this. Yeah, if they don't then it looks off the off season is far from over so anything can happen, but as a weekly podcast, we just kind of touch on all the news that we're trying to to gather but off. If if this offseason continues like this, and we're not able to to to land any big free agents and especially not able to to replace that spot off then this is not going to look good. This is going to be a face wash and Don Sweeney cam Nealy space. I was going to say that's my last Point like obviously as and I don't as much as I appreciate all the other fans out there. I think Mark can attest. I'm the original Touareg and girl. Yes always will be but that's my thing is at this point. We all knew he goes. Oh, okay. So that's not what I'm about. I'm sure it's Shady. So now do something Don Sweeney and this doesn't make me wonder if maybe because Don Sweeney and cam Neely's asked as a kind of under the fire a little bit odd because of how things have rolled out the last two postseasons, right and it actually makes me wonder just like, you know, people want to sit on them to go. Well, maybe Tori in them, maybe Tori in his teammates knew that the ruins hadn't come back. To them and they kept repeating. Maybe they're talking about the daily offered him last year. Maybe we don't know what's going on. I mean the week started with him and passed out shit-faced on the boat like me. Like I'm just saying and I love that. I love the fact that they had that you know, and like I said the last few days and I totally and I just want to say I've always said I understand Tori who's not a defensive defenseman you need like, you know, I think him and Colin her ankle a a very sexy defensive parent. That's how they end up paying them up. You know what I mean? But do something now Don Sweeney and I don't know if it's cam Nealy or if it's Don Sweeney or it's just like Mark said you guys have said that we're changing our philosophy, which I think we need to a little bit but now do something don't undersell Griz and not even mention are freaking captain and just like dance around it. But re-signed calling Miller do something. That's all I'm asking. That's all that I know you guys can't see any but that's all I'm asking. Do you think that crude misread the situation cuz I almost feel like he thought going in he's going to get a certain number has certain number in his head at a certain term in his head and then wage really came down to just one more year and white five hundred thousand more so than wasn't a ton more. Do you think that when they finally pulled the offer do you think that he thought he sort of misread it and then when he went back and said, you know what she's you know, maybe I should take this deal and they pulled it then he ended up sort of having to go to Saint Louis because it almost seems strange that he he mentioned in the press conference. Yeah, they pulled the offer really haven't had conversations in a while and and so forth and there's almost like was on his mind that I have this sixth for, you know, 6 or 38 or whatever that was deal and maybe should have taken it then and then didn't and because of financial situation and team sort of having a you know, salaries going down and being callback. Just that maybe he it was just a bad timing situation and then it take the deal away and I was like, you know, this is all I really have now. I can't go back to the Bruins and say yeah, it's not worth the one more year to change my whole life and to leave my beloved team. So I don't know if that it's just made me sort of Wonder. I don't know what your thoughts were on that. My thoughts on that is this I think that and this is why I think it's so shady, right? So if it seems to me Don Sweeney keep saying I absolutely respect Tori and go and get your money or whatever, right? So he goes on the free market and he finds out he's probably going to get sick side. He might get his term or whatever else now. I feel Torey Krug as an undersized undrafted player. That kind of makes you almost more loyalty team. I mean again, like people keep posting half past and doing the light decent. I mean, he's a brewing do you need Torey Krug is a freaking Brewing. He is small or otherwise that proven it and I think he probably came back after seeing whatever wage And maybe said, you know, how about 7 for six, you know and then give me that extra five hundred K now early, right? Because I am older and what will happen. Maybe I won't make the seven this might be a better investment may give me 746 whatever. I'd rather stay here. I'd rather be I can't believe that it's a great thing like Tori crew and then he came back and the Bruins decided against it which makes it even more or Shady to me because even if he had come back and tried to renegotiate he wasn't asking maybe too much more than what you were already offering. You know what I mean? That's what I think is I think that as long as John Sweeney keeps saying I I care if the plate the player can go and get it as money or whatever but maybe Tori did go and look around and came back and said, you know what you give me one more year you give me five hundred thousand a year less and they wouldn't give it to him and that's what up. Like that's what's confusing to me or upsets me is that that seems to be again? We don't know. What's true. We don't know if what dong He says or whatever and say both least certainly try to knock out nice each other. But Tori was very blunt. And Torey Krug is known as being kind of upfront kind of like to go right he kind of says what he's saying. He's not trying to sugarcoat anything. So that leads me to believe the players more than whatever and the way it's been acting. I think he may be overplayed his hand in the way that like you maybe he trusted gone Sweeney in that. I'll go and see what's out there and I'll come back and then we'll figure something out and then kind of got burned on the way back and that's on the organization and that's not a good look for the Bruins. You know, I guess that's my thoughts on it. I'm sorry. I can't talk about real life game. I don't want to cry been drinking some pick one here. All right, we're going to take a quick break talk in here from the great Folks at the store next door and we'll get back into some topics shortly after that that check out the store next door. C A a great Halifax Nova Scotia company doing great things for great people will be right back. All right. Thank you for giving me my little rant about Tory group because all the last four days this is in no more touring crew talk after this. So you get it in Tori Chrome in st. Louis blue. Now. What am I supposed to do? It wasn't that bad? Didn't I behaved pretty well you see me? Yeah, I can I can hear you getting a little emotional well getting emotional now because I feel like I'm gonna fuck everybody. All right. All right. Hello, I can't I'm so pissed off at Don Sweeney right now. I can pick up where we doing. We're just going to continue this or take a break. I am ready to continue. I don't know what you guys feel. I could either stop it ago. I don't care. I'm ADHD. So I always like a 5 to 10 minute break. But if you guys want to go find all right, we'll take a break then. All right, I'm all right, Matt. You're good to go on the 351. All right, 321. We're back and onto the next topic on the list and it's Craig Smith assigning by the Bruins former Nashville Predator projection a solid lines that are actually have scored at least 20 goals five of the last seven seasons. Bring some good secondary scoring. I love the signing. It's three years of the 3.1 million seems like a very friendly affordable deal excellent deal happen for three years. And I love the prospects of Smith playing with Charlie Coyle on that third line couple of park position. You guys smell shoots the puck a lot coil possesses a lot. So I think could be a line that's really difficult to play against one remark what your thoughts with was with Craig Smith. I thought a great deal and and our very own black and gold hockey.com writer Patrick Donnelly be used to had this out on October second job. That the Bruins should go after a player like Craig Smith and he was spot-on so good on him. I like the term like the deal and I like the fact that he's not going to be playing summer. I'm we we we have everything up the middle right now. So I'm he's going to be on the right side. I want to say it's it's going to be a toss between 2nd line and third line. It depends on how they gave us the second line in this free agency. And if they go after somebody like that and off or if they go after like Taylor Hall or whatever, we'll talk about that later, but but it was a good signing and and he seemed Robert happy to be a part of the Boston Bruins. I had a lot of good things to say and his interview and I'm looking forward to what he can bring because when you look at the underlying numbers and not analytics and so on he does bring a lot to the game and his five-on-five verse five points are are good and and and they're very odd. Active so and don't swing you said the same thing in his press conference when when they got them the free agency, press conference that you know, I think Connor Ryan was was talking about how much analytics played a role in and having him come into the the Boston Bruins team. So and he said it did play a big role in his five one. Five numbers were were a strong Catalyst to make that move. I feel like another I I want to preface this by saying sometimes hockey Twitter you want to say just cuz your blood is first in the room doesn't make you the rightist person in the room. Okay, so I'm not upset about the Craig Smith signing cuz he is a solid he's proven he's going to play his games and he's going to produce you about forty points of season and not so great. But what bothers me is I'm not worried about my bottom sex so much. I'm worried about my Toxic song. So maybe like Mark just find it out. There could be a chance that he actually ends up being krejci or Bergeron. Who knows what's going to happen with this team? Right? But in the top six, he is a solid 40 game. I'm not mad about that the 3.3 but given everything else that has happened annoys me because now I'm going to have to listen to everyone bitched. Why can't Sydney could get to play? Why can't I ever get to play? Well, you can't continue to sign people from the outside know this is the thing right Mark. I see you making the face you can't see my face, but what I'm saying to you honey is I would want these kids to give to play and stop signing people like the Craig Smith of the world or I want to sign the Craig Smith the world and not have to hear about why the kids don't have a spot. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, they can get off I can get rid of cascia. Gosh, it could be Expendable. Currently. We haven't gotten right Akasha though is the bigger issue, right? Like currently we haven't gotten rid of him or more or any of these other kind of job. Or whatever so I don't care whether it's the Negro or guards Craig Smith. Sorry, I almost called you Greg. I apologize Craig Smith. I do welcome you to the Bruins wholeheartedly regardless of anything else that has happened, but it's like a weird situation cuz again, you signed a solid bottom-six guy great, but that leaves so much bounce do we do from here? This can't be he can't be our big signing. That's me. You know, I just that's just me. Go ahead man. Sorry. I I I agree. I I I agree to a point across the whole bottom six thing a lot of prospects that have been coming up in you know, Anton blidh and Carson Coleman and I'm just pure in all of these guys we've heard about the last three or four years since you going on five years like and we've heard about all these kids and what they can bring to the table if they can contribute and very few of them have this battle. So I don't know there's a dead As a there's sort of a ticking Time Bomb here where you got to decide what you're doing with those young guys. And I think this signing shows that they don't really believe that some of those guys give them throughout the course of the Season into the postseason what they want and again there was a philosophy of speed and skill and and skating ability and now it's going more toward size and I think that leaves out guys like cumin and Bjork and and those other people that it doesn't fit with their model going forward. So there's going to come across roads here where they decided that they do with those guys. I do like approval NHL player though and I'll take a proven NHL play with three million a year any day of the week and and you know, you can wait for these other guys to come and play and off, you know, we heard about four spec Houston and it was gone and all of these people Ryan Fitzgerald and all of these young guys never really materialized and heard about how long Could rent rent Frederick's in that in that as well. I mean this this is the year where either you're going to be an initial player or you don't so, I don't know. It's I'd rather take the proven guy and Craig Smith is there and I think you'll do some really good things on either the second or third line with the prompt. So going on to our next item, which is you talked about the big the big signings Heather Ann Taylor Hall would certainly be one of them. One of the biggest ones of the offseason. He's narrowed his list down. It seems to be Nashville and Boston National Guard longer-term. It seems off alleged 7-year offer in the Bruins of more of a three-year off or maybe a 21-7 million a year we could hear about this signing any time now, I have a black and yellow he was off my grid for a while. I just didn't think he was going to come to Boston or Boston was even going to be that interested in him and now they seem to be I don't know if they played Coy, I don't know if they thought dead. Before this whole landscape of of salaries lowering and financial responsibility that they thought he was out of their league and now isn't so now they're in their Pond it off. So maybe it's a late bloomer type situation. I think if you get them in a pretty good number, the only caveat we have is that a good sign for seven million a year. You may not have enough to sign a left shot defenseman or Jake debrusk or Grizzly shower. Dabros minute again, the money goes quickly. So I don't know like what your thoughts are on all it'd be a big signing. Is it off really good offensive player. He hasn't played on grade teams. So I don't know. I don't know. I'm sort of back and forth on it, but at a shorter-term, maybe I'd be okay. I'm I'm good with it off the terms. I mean, you gotta be good with it. You gotta be also good with it to make your other signings to I mean if you if you go get Hall you don't break. I'm completely fine with that. You know, we have we have sustainability on the back end that we can get away with with moves like that. We need to address the secondary scoring issue because if the if the the three guys on the front line can't do it. We need to have some kind of wave or some layers that can put the puck in the net and in get it on that. So secondary scoring needs to be addressed regardless of if it's Taylor Hall or anybody else that's out there that's available. They've they've got to be Point producers and and you're going to pay for those those guys are going to be at a premium. But how has been mentioning saying that he could take a short of money for a shorter-term cuz he's in that win now kind of kind of window for himself and his life like a career, you know, he's approaching thirty years or 28th 29th at that range. So this might be an opportunity for him to go somewhere for short-term to get it done and then off. Get that nest egg on the on the next contract either with that team that that got him or move on to another team, you know, he seems to be making the rounds lately. So, I just want to see the the 505 the power play and I think this guy checks the boxes on a lot of that right there, but you're going to pay so I don't want to go into the like the nine million dollar range think he's going to get that even out on the market if if some team was available to pay him that but I think that a seven deal a seven million is not that bad and you have wage of five about four million to play with so you can get hopefully you can get depressed done too. But who knows? I mean, there's so many so many variables with with debrusk write down our what he's going to do or what he could Garner in the trade. And the other thing is if you trade dabros, can you bring somebody in like I'd left out defenseman you can have enough money to pay him. So it's it's just it's a mind-boggling Avenue Pub. That that need to be discussed thoroughly before just going out and saying let's get this guy. Let's get that guy. So and the way you think about well, I think you've kind of summed it up with the whole tail all thing as they've done nothing on defense. It's like you kind of think that they might do something on defense, right? But at the same time it's really the top six scoring that we have to address if you're going to let the Tory Cruise the world go and blah blah blah. I'm sorry Mark to mention Torey Krug. It's just using it as an example. Like you gonna let that money go right the term that you would be paying that player, right? If it's not going to be tail Holly has to be a boy tailored to fully or whatever, you know, you have to finally address. We have a gap in a secondary scoring right now. I'm really concerned about defense right now because we don't know what the hell's going on back there. Now, maybe we pull all the boys up from Providence next year great, who knows what will happen. So to compensate for them growing into the NHL players you need to address the top six scoring right? So I would like us to do something big just to show that we have balls at this point right to go out and get Taylor Hall whether they're short term for seven Mill for four years or whatever it is. Whatever it plays out to be we need to finally Shore up having, you know, we have really great 3rd and 4th liners righty Grinders and things like that that are willing to give for their team. So that means you pay for the rest of the top six finally go out and do it dead. So if it's not Taylor Hall or it's not entirely to fully we can't be crazy as we pointed out about cap space and what you will but at the same time if you can get tail of all for seven million for three years, that's a way it's a win for him. It's a win for us. It's a win for us that we get that short-term scoring. It's a win for him because he finally solidifies his legacy is you know what? I mean? He loves that's always bounced from crappy team to crappy team no offense to Jersey or the Oilers or you know, the coyotes I'm not trying to disrespect them, but I would have involved also. I just want to be right. I'm very someone who likes to be right and I would have taken Haulover Sagan in the beginning right? So if we sign him great if not, we need to still address that I could never be scoring and that's the thing that concerns me with what I've seen so far, so, I don't know how you feel about of it. Really? That's all I have to say about it. I love Taylor Hall. I can't I've said it before what do you think? What time? Jim Foley or someone of that ilk. What do you think is the most important thing at this point as defense is in limbo? Well, I I you know, the thing that keeps creeping back into my head off on holidays. He kind of has a kind of has I guess you can consider under a Shiba even though he has almost a point-per-game in his career just seems like as the number one overall pick. He wasn't a superstar that he should have been could have been and you wonder playing in sort of smaller markets and lesser organizations if the pressure of coming to Boston for wage, you know, if he has it in him to really take it all on and be that type of guy because that's what you're going to kind of need for the value giving him. I think that the Bruins have tried to make important moves to change the roster or to improve the roster but doing it in an affordable price. So they've kind of waited the game out to see if the salaries will drop even more and even more in someone Falls in wage. The amount Without Really overextending and getting a guy for Big Money big term because I think they're worried about what's going to happen the next year or two with the cap and with the league in the revenue. So I think they're playing this tightrope game of all this waiting out game where we waited out, wait it out. Maybe someone falls into our lap a little more affordable and trying to preach Thursday. We can bring you a cup rather than we're going to give you a ton of money. So and it's a dangerous game because sometimes you don't get what you want in the end. I think I'm leading, you know, I wrote about this and black hockey. A couple of weeks ago at least that they were going to be looking for cheaper options because the it's just lined up like it looked like they were they were talking a big game but in actuality it wasn't going to happen because of a multitude of different things, but the money and Jeremy Jacobs not making revenue from events since March birth. Is concession stands makes the difference? So I just started it lined up as being a sort of a let-down and not what fans might have thought it would have been home. So it is lining up that way and I wouldn't be surprised we're going to the bronze end up with Craig Smith Jake debrusk Mac Brunswick Zdeno Chara and then just see what happens during the course of the game and give it a couple of months into the season to see where you're at because it's certainly lining up that way. I don't think the breasts is going to get as much as you thought certainly not. Yeah. I don't think Grizzly it's going to be that much as you thought and you may end up with those guys back and then just sort of making it work and seeing what you have for a couple of months and seeing if you get fans in the stands and all those different aspects of it. Maybe there's too much unknown in that regard. So I don't know. I think that Hall I'd like to see if you don't get Hall. I'm just really worried about that whole whole thing with that kind of money. Tell it to Foley is very attractive Mike Bachman, you know is a pretty good player on the reminders his girlfriend, you know, so Dad enough he's still around and I don't see here many offers about him off his back in on it. So, who knows? I mean, maybe it gets someone a little cheaper and maybe the waiting out actually rewards them in the end. But again, it's a it's a it's a slippery slope you can end up with nothing unless you know instead of what you have currently and it may end up being that way and it's going to be a letdown fans going to be screaming from the from the top of the balcony, but it could end up that way. So, you know, we'll see next item on the agenda in Mark loves his goalies in Pittsburgh Penguins signed former Providence Bruins goaltender dead. Max and gassing and this is an interesting move for the Bruins. They have two NHL goals on one more year on both of their deals unrestricted after that long and then they signed Daniels with her for three years. Just this past year weird timing right during the postseason and then they have Kaiser and they have swim and and jury is still out on whether we're off in play and maybe not be the ECHL could be the age who knows where it will be who knows will be playing in the minor league system this coming season. So what does it happen? I'll start with Mark down. What does it happen for their goalie depth? And and what could they do with some of these pieces? First of all Max played a very instrumental role in the success of the Providence Bruins last season. I bought he was a very well a very good veteran for Dan Pradesh of Lennar last year. So he did what he did his service I thought The impression and I heard from sources at the Bruins were interested in possibly bringing them back. But now I'm also hearing that the Bruins are probably interested in in bringing another depth goaltender a veteran spend around who knows. I'm hearing some words of possibly exact Zane McIntyre, but it would just be adapt thing. It wouldn't be an NHL replacement or anything like that. But the next topic I want to talk about will definitely play into another role on on spinning things. So often talk about that later on but the Lagasse thing was I mean, it was just a short-term thing. I think that he sees a better path to the NHL in Pittsburgh, then he would in Boston. So that's probably why he took a deal there was $700,000. It's a one-year two-way deal. So And you know Matt Mary's out of Boston. He went to Ottawa don't immediately know and Christian Tristan. Jarry is is pretty much the guy right now. So I'm playing time, you know, who knows? I mean, he could definitely be a backup which is probably better than you know money in the age L. Let's put it that way so good on Max. Thanks for the the the the several interviews that I've had with them down at the Donk really nice guy and that could never understand a damn word. He says because his his his French is so thick it really is it it's it's hard to understand. I remember having a conversation with them when I was talking about and I think I don't know if he was nervous or anything like that. But I was talking about goaltending Coach is Mike. My name is Sandra and he and he kind of came back to me. It's like yeah the good players. I thought he thought that they were players out on the ice at that particular night. So I don't think he really understood what I was what I was saying. and I kind of kind of fumbled it a little bit but and ended the conversation there, but you know, it was just one of those things but Yeah, I mean it sucks to see him go. I mean, it's such a good guy. It really good goaltender. I mean he was he was ranked in the top ten in many categories. He was second in wins with 22. He had two point five goals against average the same percentage wasn't great at at 9 and 1719 something like that. So but it was just you know something that I wanted to bring up that he was he was it was he was good and and it's not a big loss. But you know, we'll see what happens, What do you think about the the goalie situation in Providence? Well, as long as I trusted Mark, right, I know he's a big fan of Max Lagasse he did. All right when he was down there at the same time. I just feel like we're at deal with what we have right? Maybe June and halak and moving on to Jeremy swimmin and Danville Adara if that's what were happening. I don't know like, you know, I'm a big like let's bring back to kids see what happens Thursday. I agree. It sucks to see him go because he is someone who has some experience and what you will but I don't know as always I defer to market the goalie situation my life. I you know, I think it's a very big year as far as the goal-tending concerned of what direction the team wants to go in because they have sort of an interesting situation with two to three thousand really good young goalies, and then to Veterans and good young good veterans are up after next year. So they have to decide whether one or two of these young goalies are going to be ready home. And it's a it's a lot to ask. So they're going to have to Bridget I would assume with another veteran. So it's it all depends on their development this year and it brings up an interesting point, you know, go down to our next topic here on the agenda is the Bruins ECHL minor affiliate is actually opted out for twenty Twenty-One. So that leaves no no ECHL, you know a phone number. Be a team for these kids to play with so what does that mean for the prospects and where they could go and in Mark. I know you have some information on some thoughts on this and where they could be loaned to play. All right. So with the the Atlanta Gladiators have been the the the double A minor Pro affiliate for several seasons now last year, they signed a one-year agreement off, but that that ended with the Cove it shutdown of everything else. So they technically don't have an East Coast Hockey League affiliate. I was told by great sources that there was going to be another affiliation agreement with the Bruins in Atlanta, but now Atlanta is as opted out of play due to the reason why they could still going on but the infinite arena in in near near Atlanta thrives on other events that go on it's just off. Hockey so and the state of Georgia has an occupancy limit of 25% So it wouldn't work reading the Articles page of Atlanta. The operating costs would oversee any ticket sales at 25% So it's not good business. So they just shut it down. So but what that does is it puts the Boston Bruins in a very interesting predicament when it comes to the goal-tending like you mentioned so it was my theory that the that the the information that I came from a really Solid Source was the Bruins wanted to get a veteran goaltender the vet and Videl would be in Providence swayman and and Kaiser would be in Atlanta. Now that's gone. Now do the Bruins don't do they do not want to bring in a veteran now and now make it a flood are swimming in tandem in the the South American Hockey League if and when they actually start because I got some information on that too or and then have Kyle Kyser just be out on loan much. Like what I'm Craig binging. What's his name? The guy join Jordan binnington did with with Saint Louis. They they didn't have an affiliate to go to he came to Providence so often similar to that but I don't know it's it's going to be interesting to to know what's going to happen with with that whole thing and I was talking to Matt about this about contracts with all this free agency going on right now. There's only been to HL contract signed. So that really doesn't tell me dead. That the the there's really a likelihood of when these guys are thinking they're going to start it might be a little earlier the NHL teams are just playing it safe and so on and then the age is going to but it's going to go it's going to go in order. So and a lot of people believing that the the the American Hockey League is going to start and early December. Well, if if the NHL's not starting till let's say the beginning of this of January to the middle the ahl's not going to stop in early December. It's probably going to fall in suit with what the NHL does so they're very lenient on see you can't see me I can see you perfectly fine Mark. Can you hear us what happened? And the name Rose a little bit honey, great. So why don't you released on just about like contracts and that's kind of where you are at and you are know I'll figure it out. I don't know something's going on all month. It didn't happen and now. All right for a second, no, just move on to the next topic will move on to the next topic and that's a no-charge areas. Does he get another job of the Bruins and right now they're in a position where if they do sign a Taylor Hall and bring on another contract then in with Jake debrusk still up in the air and macros are going on vacation is there or there'll be room for the damage that we signed on for another year? We do need some left shot to help as well. So Heather, I don't know your thoughts on Charter. I think that in my opinion, it's just weird to say he's sort of a secondary priority in my opinion if you can really improve the team and go and what you have and you don't need him then I think you have to make that difficult decision not to bring him back, but I don't know. Yes. Lots of lunch are. I don't know. I feel kind of torn on charger for a couple of reasons one. I absolutely agree with you. Like if we can sign someone that will really Shore up this nice. I'm sorry, but we have to move on but at the same time we are short on left on defense and now like things are crazy in that world. And it took others me that we would offer Kevin Miller money, but not Zdeno Chara. He's the captain of this team and not so much for that Zdeno Chara like it's not even a loyalty thing. But at some point if you're going to show a loyalty contract for Kevin Miller, you have to sign a loyalty contract for Catholic or do something big. Like I said, I mean if we get a left jab man on free agency, which is few and far between but now that I I guess I'm torn I absolutely was not want to stay on shower to go out the way that mm. 20 happen not. I mean like this was supposed to be his last year. We're supposed to win the cup with the best team like it sucks for it to go that way. And at the same time if we can use that million or two million now though, especially since we signed Kevin Miller who hasn't even played a game in two years. I also I respect of Zdeno Chara was going to keep saying even if it has to be somewhere else and that kind of brings me to a weird point in as a Bruins fan, right? I I don't know. That's just how I feel about it. I absolutely agree. You should be a third pairing defenseman at this point in his career, but I absolutely don't think so. Damn Charles last year played hockey should go out the way it did in 2020. So Mark, I don't I don't know how you feel about it. Like I'd rather than money go somewhere else if necessary, but at the same time you're going to give Kevin Miller money. I think you should offers a damn shower or something. Yeah. I'm down with Matt on the we do need left shot D unless we getting unless we're getting it via trade or something. I'm just I'm just I'm ready to move on. I say this. I I it's almost seems like I say this every week about chora just I'm ready to move on. I think the games get a little past him, but I find it interesting that other teams are reaching out for his services. So if if that has to be an has to be an option to I'm all for that that saves a little bit of money, but I want to address I want to get rid of the the old dog. Contracts or the ideas of of retaining all the players and put it into you know, what we need holes that need to be filled where we were exposed in the past two seasons, especially in the Stanley Cup finals against the the st. Louis Blues and then last year with the with the, you know, raining the eventual Stanley Cup champion Tampa Bay Lightning song, you know to me you gotta score goals and that's what one games at the that's what wins games at the end of the year. I am not I'm not I'm not a huge shower a guy get his own ship and everything like that. I I totally get it but these year by year by years are also blocking the progression of younger players coming up to the system. And I don't know I'm not I'm not ready to break loose faith and some of those guys yet because of an old veteran is just hanging on so sorry. That's my Jag. Yeah. It was interesting because it almost makes it seem like the Kevin Miller song. Is a sign that maybe they aren't bringing him back because if you're if you say it that way like why would they invest that money? Bring Kevin Miller back on the right side? If they really thought they were going to need change on the left side. Like it just doesn't make much sense to me. That's that's that's done explaining that that's totally John Sweeney. Don Sweeney wouldn't Don Sweeney wouldn't re-sign Charlie McAvoy Brandon Carlo, but he goes out and spends money on Harlan home Brett Ritchie and all this crap and it's just like it's it's a mind game. I swear to God with this guy and it's it's a month he gets to you know, the 4th liners and falls in love with these. I don't know if he's looking for Diamonds in the Rough for what he's doing or if it's just easier to to spend the million bucks on some fourth line or whatever and he doesn't really make that bold move. And and if the only bold moves he seems to make other all those wrong moves of overreaching for draft pick. Our boys are trading a high draft pick for Zac Rinaldo. Like just just sort of strange again it almost and I I want to not think it's just simple but it's almost like he just wants to show how smart he is and and he's a Harvard guy and very smart much more intellectual. I am but it just seems like there's sort of an arrogance. Like I know more than everybody else. So I'm going to make this move in. Sometimes it just hasn't panned out for them and it happens in the draft and it happens in free agent signings and it happens assigning your own guys and the Kevin Miller one is a head-scratcher when you when you pack with the charger situation cuz I just think that that money should have been if you wanted to bring them back should have been for a shower as a as a real sort of safety blanket for your life situation was assigned Miller on the right side. It leads me to believe that that they want to trade maybe one of one or two of the young prospects and they really dangle them out there because It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. But you know what, I guess what do I know but I it would be interesting to see with Grizzly going arbitration and with depressed still hanging in the air and then trying to get jobs are left shark defenseman or a good scoring top-six Winger again, you're going to run out of money soon. So I don't know I would say though that maybe it's time for for Chara to move out cleaning or maybe he sits out some of the year that could be another thing that he does since I was a free agent and then Waits and sees what's you know, maybe he plays a second half of the year off type of thing which might be beneficial to him. You know, he said own and he he rests up and he gives you Thirty Thirty or forty really strong games toward the end and in the postseason, maybe that's the route he gave us who knows but it's just it makes the middle of signing even more strange next item on. The list is just as we mentioned take Jake debrusk off. You still sort of out there? Here's another guy who I thought was probably going to make more than he actually is. I thought he was probably going into the offseason or before the salary shook out before and half million player, maybe even five million a year player. Now, it looks like he's more we could be more of a free to Farina half million dollar player. So they bring him back. Do they wait and see what they can get as far as someone else or do they trade him to get some of that defensive help we're talking about two weeks ago. I would have said that Jake was gone now, but then I keep going back to this. I think we're I think we're going to end up with Craig Smith and everybody else that they that they already had but I don't know your thoughts on Heather. It's so hard to read this team at this point, right fundamentally our defense. We don't know what's going on. It's too much limbo on the back end right back, which is really weird because even given small and defense in this and that we've been one of the best defensive teams like yeah play in wasn't good for you know, whatever the play-offs return-to-play. I'm sorry. I didn't know remember what it was called. I would rather have given Charles the million just to give him his last year than Kevin Miller. That's just me. That's too big of a gamble, you know, but now it's so hard because I agree with you. I thought tourists was out of here as much as I love him as much as I do think he has value that's the point he has value he could have been a good trade. Whatever you will but now I feel like I agree with you, I as much as I think that Don Sweeney is a swing. Yes. I also think that that bites him in his ass off. Now like now we're three days into free agency. You're not willing to obviously give out money, but you're obviously not willing to pay the players. You do have like it's a weird situation against us maybe being packaged maybe with more or somebody else for something else. But at the same time if you're going to go that way like I want something big to happen because you've invested too much time and energy into bras, you know, he's becoming younger Nucor, you know, he's been around so long so I don't know. I'm just at a loss words cuz I think generally with free agency so far and thus far and how it's rolled out. I don't know Nebraska. I don't think is a five million dollar player. I think he's at least in the gas cap. Salary situation. I do think he needs to be more consistent. But at the same time if we can get real value for him. I want to do something with that, but I don't off. Because I don't have no idea what John Sweeney's doing at this point. You know what I mean? I don't mean to be ambiguous and not really have a lot of thoughts on the situation but I prefer debrusk stays here and maybe we get off line for krejci. But at the same time of Nebraska has to be packaged to go to really actually make a big move do something, you know, just generally I don't care if it's trade to process for a bigger name or whatever you're doing but five million is a little much but we also don't know what is QA is either right? We know what Grizzlies says cuz he's going to arbitration but we haven't really heard a lot of word about the young people they did give a qualifying offer to I didn't put it on the agenda, but that's something interesting about who they didn't QA and who they did. You know what I mean? Like again, I don't want to get into my peter Solara Chrome whatever like it's either get off the pot for this team where we were sitting why we're talking right now boys is this page? 223 on the Sunday, they need to decide either way. You can no longer have one leg in and one leg out like you need to do something and if that's lose to brush great, if especially if he probably more three four million dollar player at this point if that's what you sign up for but we don't have a lot of money and we don't have a lot of time left because everyone's still signing as we speak at this moment and we have done crap really to see you either shirt this team or go into full rebuild and I don't know what to do with that. You know, like just does a Bruins fan and has someone talks about them to breastfeed if he has to go great job, but it better be for something real none of this, you know little the Richie's and the whoever's of the world like do something do something big do something done if you're going to do with Jake debrusk wage use it for real value. Yeah, I'm if I wish I know it's not good business to say listen Jake. What do you want? What do you want for money? And if he says I want five million dollars then just trade him, you know, cuz that's he's getting overpaid if he gets five million dollars. He's overpaid if he's getting 4 3 3 .5 2.5 3.5 I'm fine with that's fine. But if I don't know I'm a huge Rush fan. I've always have been but if he needs to go to get something else in again, depending the money, I don't know. I'm just I'm torn on this one too, because we do need to to address a certain need and he's the type of player. If you don't want to get rid of the future like Sid Nika. This is the type of player that has NHL games and he's you know, he's been at the level. This is the play we need to move and I hate saying that I really do but he does have inconsistencies is no doubt about his stats on there where they should be dead. But he is an you know coming to the he's at the end of an entry-level deal and still if he is signed for anything. I'd like to have met a two-year show me deal and go from there. Then I I agree because I just haven't heard what other teams really valuable and I heard early on that boy, you know, there's some teams out there who really find them valuable and might be offering but I have found anything. I haven't heard any money really digging in on debrusk or how much he's worth and actually a signing of Craig Smith of 3.1. I'm thinking that guys could twenty twenty-five or five out of Seven Seasons like so what is your breast really? I know he's younger. But what is he really going to guess, you know, maybe you just offer him, you know 246 and say this is what we're offering and as a bridge and then when you're twenty-six years old, you still aren't during the prime. You have a couple of good years left maybe win a cup song and we're good players and then you go into the market two years from now and see what you have there. I mean, maybe that's maybe that's how you go with it. And then like you said Mark if he doesn't want to take it then you actively shop down. And make a decision with them because you really don't want some someone to swoop in make an offering you get nothing for him leaving because you do need something for him. So I again I think it Tara Hall is really seems to be holding up the whole operation around the league as soon as he signs. I think you'll see dominoes falling everywhere. And if he signs in Boston, I think you'll see debrusk move fairly quickly. Maybe they have something in the pot in case all is signed. You know, maybe that's why we haven't heard much cuz they they already have something in the works that could be in all contingent on home. So I you know be interesting to see I just think it's it's been such hype about this offseason letting fans are getting really irritated the less that happens because we were told by Sweeney Todd have to make changes to the roster. We were told by nearly we have to be honest with our roster and then it doesn't happen. Like it doesn't and Smith is a good deal. But other than that nothing's happened and it's just gets frustrating wage. Hopefully this week hopefully next week we're talking about how we jump the gun and everything worked out great and we're much happier now. I just don't see it happening though. Exactly. All right, next on the agenda. Heather is our task b n g n e s p n g is up. There are not that many. But but first we do. Andrew Verena is that right? Did I pronounce Verna? One of our own says does the hall news break during the podcast recording I'm going to go with no Andrews. Sorry wage as much as I would make me happy and really make my weekend because it sucks betonline.ag that's not happening right now. But Greg wrote guarino's. Sorry says in my opinion if the Bruins want to make one more run with this Core Group, then there's a need for a top-four LD Grizzly Chara Lo Zanzibar euro is not enough to bring them a couple. What's available LD. Would you like Leon? What wage defense? Would you like to see come here Martinez Global sphere or whatever? Cross the spear. Yeah, gostisbehere. Sorry, I sorta was writing it or do they go with major trade? What do you guys think? I don't know. This is I wish we had a little a little more time to research this ask vng glasses fear is a little sketchy for me kind of not the type of defenseman that I want on my team. I think he's a good mobile. But when you talk about physicality, I don't think it's all there. So probably one of the reasons why Philadelphia is trying to move on from them or seek value for him. The I mean, I don't know. This is a tough one. I wish I just had a little more time to to do a little more research get those happy and cheese in sooner folks. Yeah, I I I wanted Noah hanifin like a month ago. Like I wanted to make a deal for cuz I was really intrigued by hanifin and McEvoy b c and b u and Anton's twenty-three and I was really, you know trade too Brusque in a couple of prospects or whatever make it make it work. But that didn't come to fruition and then you talk about Martinez as a couple of Cups anyway and Schmidt for them also, but he makes five point nine five million and again the money goes quick and you can't sign hall and then bring in Smith you have to add that money. So unless someone's going to take the money with the Vegas needs to get rid of money. So they don't take it any back. So Martinez are submitted to you guys have been talked about I guess I would say, you know, I wouldn't mind Martinez veteran been there before one Cubs actually won the cup with a Golden Goal when the whole thing with the game-winning goal in overtime. So I you know, I I wage Mine and you know either one of those two guys, but again, you're getting into a a part now where it's it's getting thin and you're putting yourself up against it, but I don't think you can get a top-six Floyd and a left shot D of any substance together with a cap situation, especially with Grizz look out there even if you suck your breasts, so I guess we'll see what happens but I I think they do need a left shot D and unless they really believe someone like this is a Borel and these other gifts can be a lead back in nineteen by all accounts that are really bad year last year. So, I don't know if he can jump from Bad age a year too good NHL year is just asking a lot. So it's going to be interesting to see the thought of the sort of backing themselves in a corner here where their defensive group and I'm not sure what what they can do with it. I agree on that like it's hard to at this point. We're kind of in a situation we have to address Lefty, you know, so okay Martinez, whoever but we're still screwed on the cap. So what does that do? It's still I don't mean to generalize boys and I don't know how you feel. But as a Bruins fan not even thinking about it from business aspect every year off. My team does nothing at the trade deadline. My team does nothing at freaking agency and it's just getting a little old right because everybody else is having some balls and I'm not trying to say John Sweeney does but if you're not going to sign to our crew getting your gun maybe risk losing that was like and you're not going to make a big trade for somebody to show up we need help on both. We still are screwed on the top six even with Craig Smith who is lovely and maybe 10:00 slot in if need so, you know, But I left defense has so weak. So it's so hard to tell it's like you spend the money cuz Pickens are getting slim and just kind of settled but I feel like we always settle I don't want to settle anymore. I want something big to happen, you know. Yeah, I mean the veteran experience I'll take that if it's a cheaper deal, but at this point I'm kind of backed in a corner. We need to address the left side am still aren't that depth-wise on the as much as we want to pull ourselves to think you were adapting? We're not and we need to address that and we need to do something big for that month. We got next. Do we hello? Man, oh, oh, okay. So we're going on with ask me and Jake. That's all we had. Sorry. Thank you, Ray and Andrew for actually responding. Thanks so much. So right now we're moving on to our next topic, which is this week and Bruins history Mark. All right. So this weekend Bruins history as actually today and this is from Mike comedo. And he's a an author that wrote down hockey 365 wrote a book about something that happened in hockey one day out of the year. So he writes on this day in 1924. The Boston Bruins in Montreal Maroons were granted in NHL franchise has guess how much guess how much they paid twenty Grand. Oh, you're close out there. Go ahead Matt. Twenty five fifteen thousand each or franchise in the NHL back in nineteen twenty-four. Another one I wanted to add is actually yesterday but I'm a big rate book fan. So 42 years ago yesterday on Saturday the Bruins traded Ron Graham, son of John Graham former goaltender the Boston Bruins to the LA Kings for LA's first round pick in the 1979 draft, which was eight. Overall the Bruins drafted Hall of Fame they bark. Wow, great trade. Yeah, one of the goods rage back then I can't believe they did that. He's yeah. Yeah and one of the worst traits was they traded away Ken Dryden cuz he was when he was with I think Cornell they had his rights and they traded him for nobody for an absolute nobody and the guy goes Peter Sperry Peterson for nearly dead. In Wesley, right? They got Wesley. Yeah. Yeah. I remember those Wesley. So that was a good one, too. But yeah, that was when it had some bad ones too. That's interesting a that's an interesting little tidbit. That's that's one of the great trades ever. Yeah, so when we end it right there and I'll just I'll just go on the the Spiel. Thank you so much man for four again being an awesome host to two weeks in a row Heather. Thank you very much. I know it was an emotional one, but I'm glad that you know, we got it off my chest and we can move on right? Yeah. Yeah. We're adults were all adults in separate the business from the pleasure true. All right. Well, anyway, thank you very much for listening everybody. 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Loops

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Loops

"This is Joanna from Batavia Illinois radio lab is supported by linked in learning Lincoln learning has over thirteen thousand courses to help you clinch any career moment. Like getting promoted or nailing. Your next presentation. Visit Lincoln learning dot com slash career to keep learning in the moments that matter to you. Hey radio lab producers Simon Adler here. And before we get to the show. And here we got a quick word from us any McEwen hair. This is Kelly prime radio lab step. This is Walters here here and the technical pretty production manager producer editor here radio lab on slightly self conscious embarrassed by the fact of speaking my phone, okay? So again, we reached out to you guys to our listeners, and we asked that four thousand of us core radio four thousand you did you did you did you totally came through incredible. In fact, more than games. And so from the staff your radio lab, the people you pay to keep on the air. 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We just to send things up, and you'd better goes to people you just heard show and curt Brown, they are comedians, and we first heard about the bit you're about to hear from Jesse thorn, host of the sound of Young America. Great show. Are you rolling over there? Jesse? No record you. Okay. Check own. Okay. Yeah. I'm really. So you say when Kurt and Kristen walk onstage. What happened? Well, there's a couple of jokes up top. They joke about this this TV show that they hosted in the seventies bench. Finally. I'd courthouse it explained the American judicial system using a courthouse. Made completely of animal cancelled immediately. In. So the audience is kind of laughing at the jokes thanking like, oh, this is going to be a regular comedy sketch sketch from that tonight. All right. Hey herring. I'm ready. Okay. And then they go into this song. Does this maniacal seeing clapping? Christian is doing this horsey, Dan. Just. Could you do this? Four in Lincoln y. Titian Jad where we do it. We got the after the third repetition. People laugh, maybe they get it. Like, oh, they're just gonna do that over and over and then somewhere around like four around the fourth time, then it's not. I'm done with them done. I don't wanna watch this anymore. Why are they still doing? And then and then that changes tach will hatred, and they're like, you stupid people you too stupid people. But somewhere between nine and eleven. And then they're like. Likeness stupidity. You get this next level, which is they can't continue doing this. And then they do continue doing it. They really there is are starting to cross point dripping sweat Kristen's angry that I've gone that long. You can hear Kurt in thing. Like losing track of the song because he's going into some kind of. I've had on stage whisper stopping. Walking. Maybe my favorite thing in the history of the world. What I love about. It is that your brain is trying to make it into what you want it to be which is a joke. But there is no joke happening. And so what these people are doing is creating the expectation that the expectation is going to be broken. But then breaking that expectation that the expectation is going to be broken by just delivering thing that they've been delivering over and over for the past ten minutes list along as you take it. Shelia because you were drunk. It seemed like it seemed like ten minutes. We can't be sure if it was ten minutes. I it seems like there's no way. It was ten minutes and the audience. Phrase. Two two. Justin chose. Chris. Hey, I'm jaboomer on. I remembered krill. This is radio lab and today. Today. It's all about loops things that happen over and over and over and over and over and over and coming up loops hurt. You stream loops it. He'll you injuries that scare you. Loops and loops that incomplete cute. What? So we are where are you guys? What Cisco San Francisco, you're not in Texas. Just sounds like Ruentex she's from tech. Can you guys actually just a if you don't mind introduce yourself? So we know just have your name and all that sure I'm Mary sue Campbell. I live in Nevada California, and my daughter Christine is thirty years old. I live in San Francisco, and I was raised in Nevada in the house that said have been so we begin okay? Told me the beginning how the story start. I it was odd. Christine actually called me Tuesday morning about ten o'clock. And just said, oh, what are you doing mom? And I said, oh, I'm just gonna go out in the yard and do some yard work and run some errands. And she said we ought to do the artwork early because it's going to be hot today. We're in we're in the summertime summertime. Yeah. Was August August twenty four and apparently what ten minutes later about my off and a half hour later. She said I called her. She had left me voice mail something like, hey, Christina. Mom, something's something's not right. Something's wrong. I need you to call me back so Echeverri call back, and and she said something about the house, isn't right. There's things like weird and hear what's weird. What are you talking about? And then she said, I'm looking at the calendar. And it says August two thousand ten. I'm mike. She's like, well, that's not right. And I said, well, yes, it is August twenty fourth two thousand ten and as soon as I said that outlawed I grabbed my purse to leave. Oh my God. She's had a stroke. That was my my my first reaction, and that makes me feel emotional. And so Christine says she walked out of her house to the car, keeping your mom on the phone. What else? Do you see? I'm just trying to keep her talking to me all the while mom's telling her one thing after another just doesn't look, right. She says there's a strange black truck on the driveway. Which is the truck that belongs to her boyfriend that has been parked there for ten years. So I'm of course, increasingly I mean, I'm just freaking out at this point. So she hangs up their mom and then calls the paramedics and a half hour later Christine arrives at the hospital by the time I walked in. She had been there for five or ten minutes at the most. And as soon as I walked in the doctor greeted me and said said this is Dr Jonathan Baliles Christine, it's immediately evident. It's not a stroke, not an infection. That's that's a huge relief. But I said your mother has transient globally 'em nesia, global transient global you. How did those words hit you? I'll be honest with you. I had no idea what that meant. I think the word I heard the most 'em nesia through mother has lost her ability to form new memories. She can't remember. But he said it's not going to last forever. It usually lasts between one in twenty four hours. We're not sure what causes it. It's at this point with the story goes from something kind of frightening to something a little more surreal. Yes. So when I came in mother is sitting up in bed. She's a smiler and she immediately started asking questions. I said while it's Tuesday, August twenty fourth. And of course, we have a video on YouTube of this. Yep. Probably member five. Trying to remove a date. I remember. Yeah. We hung out you came over to my house. And we watched a video that I made pre when I was in Texas and all of your sisters and brothers said happy birthday to video, but we still have the videos much again. But you're gonna remember eventually they it's just temporary listened at home to home yet. You're at home doing some gardening, and you call me, and you're feeling confused. So he called the paramedics had them come and get you. And then we came here tests on you his lucid August twenty fourth Tuesday. Trying to remember the less to be remembered. I don't remember my birthday, remember everything. Yeah. Yeah. That must have just been recently. Yeah. Couple of weeks ago, you missed it. But this conversation, they're having just started. Because every ninety seconds Mary sue's memory, resets. What's strange the repetition? Like, we started that last clip. You heard with her saying this? Ninety seconds later after her memory reset. She says. Date. I remember ninety seconds later. The last member. And is you watch video for a few minutes. You realize what's happening here is that Mary sue? Is in a loop. And it goes like this. I the date. I guess twenty fourth. She then responds in almost the same way every time. Yes. She's Mr. birthdays. And every time she says that darn in exactly the same way if you fast forward. My birth yet. Must enjoy Bertha quite a bit. Eventually she laughs what happened then they recapped here working in the garden, and you gave me a call Christine explains. The whole thing it's usually when she says the word paramedic. The paramedics there and have them come pick you up the Mary sue's is give here really wide in this look of Hunan utter disbelief. Yes. Yeah. Isn't that creepy? I mean, every single say that to say, isn't that crazy? Ninety seconds later. Rapi ninety seconds later. It soften at this point. Right after creepy. The were sets. Tuesday, like somebody put it on rewind over and over and over again. Yes, at repeated the birthday such that the nurse apparently was behind me mouthing the words. Yeah. Oh, my. Staying here grandparent's day like every few minutes. We're doing the same thing. We that. We have had the same conversation over and over again every two minutes for two and a half hours to. No. We can't seem to talk about anything else. That is what we're talking about today. The week is Tuesday August twenty fourth. We didn't miss it. You were there. I'm watching it. I wanted to slap me. I wanted to read it out. Let me say damn I just told you that for the rather would never slow no dot question. Here's a clue this person who's lost her memory. Yeah. But why would her behavior for one cycle to the next be? So precisely and consistently the same. I mean, sometimes exactly the same. Yeah. Why I think what it is is one of the things the nurses said is that when you have something like this your true self comes out your true, the word truce interesting. So yeah, is that what we're seeing on the video is your troopers your true saw. Oh, yeah. I mean, my mom through and through right there. I mean, she's what Christine means is not the repetition. But that are mom keeps asking so many questions inquisitive. She just wants to know what's going on with with all across the board. I love problems. I love puzzles. Are you like a Sedova fiend? You know? I am. I am. I hate to admit it. Hi, play escape room games on the internet escape room. What are those? They're stupid little games where they have little hidden pixels that you find you're stuck in a room, and you have to get out. You've gotta find the key to the door. And there's all these little hidden places. Oh, this is the perfect metaphor there. Yeah. I was my own escape room. Tuesday. There's a different way of seeing this first of all Jonathan blows that ER doctor who seen a bunch of these cases, he said, well, that puzzle instinct, that's not just Mary sue what everybody does is struggle over and over again with where am I? And when am I it's just the brain in survival mode and another thing that everybody does. And he's seen about six of these patients so far is it everybody not just Mary sue, but everybody becomes a broken record right down to the the phrasing of the sentences, which keeps them out a little bit. It. It makes the brain seem a little bit more like. A machine, you know, you give the machine exact same set of inputs every ninety seconds. Give it the same doctor the same hospital room. Same beeping machines and see if the output ever varies, and it does it almost seems like the patient has no free. Well. And so sometimes in the back of his head. He thinks got if I had that condition. Someone videotaped me I would love to see see my own tape. Why you know, I think I wanna see could I somehow escape the loop. Or or would I would I end up with the rest of us. Now, thankfully, according to Jonathan what normally happens in this condition as time goes on ninety second loop starts to slowly expand. It's actually more like two minutes or three minutes, eventually four minutes. Now, it's five minutes and for Mary sue after a few hours as her loop got longer and longer old memories start to creep back in by that evening. She was remembering up until like that Sunday few hours later her memory began to extend into Monday morning by the time we left the hospital she remembered Monday night and then finally begin. Okay. Told me the beginning how the stories start funding. I it was odd. Christine actually called me Tuesday morning about ten o'clock. And just said, oh, what are you doing mom and apparently ten minutes later. Later. I'm reproach Janet Rodman. We'll be right back. One this is Kurt Brown over. And these other words you've told me to be ready lab is funded in by offered. Peace loan foundation and public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. Christine Campbell is his Mary sue Campbell. Here we go more information about flown at WWW dot slow dot org. Facebook. I was enough for you. And this message greetings LIZA. Here radio lab is supported by Linden learning rally different places in our careers. Some of you may be trying to get promoted manager team or do something new wherever you're at Lincoln learning has more the thirteen thousand courses top by industry experts to help you succeed in your own way, anytime anywhere. Visit Lincoln learning dot com slash career to get a month free and to keep learning and other career moments that matter to you. Hey, I'm jaboomer. And I'm Robert krulwich. This is radio lab in this hour. We're talking about loop soups. Loops okay. Nukes. Nothing is something something and nothing nothing is something one point zero is the obviously and leap shape is positive zero zero. Who's this? This is the author of his looking Clint. When I was a kid. I used to think I zero the whole with nothing in it but actually zero chosen by the Indians as kind of reflecting the tunnel cycles of the faces of heaven. Romans and the Greeks and the and the Jews we didn't have zero. We just had to everything started at one. And one reason why we didn't is that kind of freight of the void. Freed of the void. I mean, how would you describe something? Isn't there? Nothing. There's nothing to say Gary some out. Yeah. It's an emptiness and nothingness enemies. You're so long. You don't even know where you are so visited a psychological barrier to us grasping this zero. But in India, everything nothing was the same thing. They had this very fluid and they gross decided nothing. This was something in on the enough the way they decided to represent the nothing was they took little piece of nothing, and they drew a circle round which turns the nothing into something. And it's loop at it's a loop. Nothing is something something nothing. So this idea of attorney and continuity and Infinity is actually contained with the numeral physique. That kind of loved the idea that actually he is kind of the most mystical magical spiritual digit of them, you know, and it's we's everyday see. Really? Yeah. So here's to the workhorses. These are like my next up a story from reporter Mark Phillips, right as you can see here. There's all these containers of tape. Loops okay. Set this up who is this guy names William Brzezinski? He's a musician who makes this really hard to describe music. He's been doing it for about thirty years. And basically what he does he takes a little bit of classical music or muzak recorded onto tape sitting here analog tape, this might be terrible. And he loops it if I can find something from he cuts, the beginning, the end tapes it together into a circle threads it through tape machine messes with the speeds, and you get something that sounds like this. This little phrase just repeats over and over and over and never changes. You know, loops her everywhere there cycles there in nature. They're just universal. And if you can find a loop that can repeat without becoming redundant then you can sort of fall into a different space timing. Sort of like a bubble of eternity or something. I don't know. So that's what that's ounce like well in the summer of two thousand one I was archiving all these old tape loops transferring them to digital and something kind of weird happen. He grabbed this one piece of tape. Put it on. And it was wonderful grave very stately loop. I totally forgotten about. And I said it up and turned on CD burner and left the control room went to the kitchen got some coffee and came back. And I started realizing something was changing. I looked. I could see that. The tape was shredding. The thing to understand about tape is that when you record music onto analogue tape onto a bit of it that music put it is its iron oxide powder, glued to just a piece of plastic. So the iron powder is actually the music, but after twenty thirty years the glue loses its strength in the devils off onto the floor. His music was actually falling on the floor debt. And I thought oh my God. What's going to happen? And what happened was in? The course of about an hour music. Disintegrated and you put more loops on it kept happening. But the really interesting thing was while some disintegrated quickly some slowly they all sort of had the same pattern. What do you mean? Just listen to this. So this is one of his loops at the beginning. Could. And after around and around for twenty minutes or so the dust started the fall off, and then it sounded like this. All the all the notes are still there but details king shorter. Yeah. And that's what would always happen. The sustains decays of the notes seem to follow away like from the back. Moving backwards. It gets shorter and shorter instead of being held for four seconds for three six. Two seconds. Finally, just really here. Like the attacks and the. Accents just the beginnings of notes. Only the beginning those seem to hold on at least for a little while. I was thinking. Wow. This is like, I'm recording the life and death of a melody. It just made me think of human beings. You know, how we die? You can really hear the disintegrating this particular. I think this is number five. It starts sending the rest like this. But after just fifteen minutes, it's basically completely gone. In the tape on this one, you know tape is normally Brown. Right now, it's it's clear scotch tape. And the dust is gone a little bit of Brown here. But now it's clear. It's almost all gone. This next loop is is a sly one. And you're going to have to weed bit for its Lucas kick in ready foreign ready producer leafy the smell of a dead wail. Is you have to experience to know to notice like it's like, nothing I've ever smelled. This is Craig Smith professor of ocean Ave fairly is it's really putrid back when Craig was a graduate student. This is nine nineteen eighty two. There was a dead whale floating off the coast of San Diego about a third of the water was see Brittan pecking at how big around twenty five to thirty feet long. So what is that like a train car more like a size of a small yacht? I guess freaking. Well, yeah. Craig wanted to sink that whale. No one had ever studied. What happens when oil sinks to the floor people just speculated about it? Sonoda never fallen it down to the bottom. No-one had followed the way down to the bottom, right? So we told the carcass out to sea, and they had all these little scraps of steel that they tied to the whale's tail one at a time about two thousand pounds and. Nothing. It wasn't enough to to six well kept floating. They're like big smelly balloon. It's Philly was awful compositional gas and the captain of the ship goes. Well, I'm a big rifle. Let's bring that out. So he got out his rifle all the other guys in the book take out their guns shooting the wheel. Yeah. Yeah. This also doesn't work. Does. It didn't really do anything the Craig tried again. And again and eventually not with that whale. But with others he got to see something. So cool. So a whale dies and sinks down into the dark. And and then. This incredible cycle begins within minutes scavengers will be at the carcass. Lots of little creature seat will it's so dark. They smell it. They smell the wheel with an hour may well have hundreds of hag fish. They're terrified these you like animals they have crowning plates instead of teeth and they burrow into. Hundreds like a heck fish conventions ruling mass of yield. What does that look like? Well, it looks like a like a giant Medusa? Over the next few days of bunch of other scavengers show up including stone crabs shrimp, see Scuds sharks. Frustation huge flesh flying everywhere. Sometimes the heck fish get ticked off. And they tried to defend their territory. Fish have an very interesting ability to produce mucus. You can put a couple of fish into a bucket of water and kick it, and they can produce enough mucus essentially, turn the bucket of water into something like gelatin. Wow. So it's like Medusa head in a cloud of mucus. And all that is just the first stage the mobile scavenger stage. Okay. So what happens after that? Well, after the mobile scavenger stage is the enrichment opportunities that point the whale is beginning to look pretty dilapidated little bits of whale soft tissue implanted in the seafloor. And so the ground around the whale becomes like sort of its own little ecosystem and a bunch of new animals show up there worms. They're wrigley. Little worms just like tons of them. We can we get thirty or forty thousand of them per square meter, sometimes sediment around fall looks like a lawn of grass where these worms just wriggling sticking out of the sediment and waving back and forth. Are these worms? Do you think? They're white. So feel were. Yeah. Wake grants. Kind of ghostly. And finally. The last stage something we call the sulfur loving stage. This point the whale looks like a skeleton discovered with this actually beautiful mad of white bacteria, and it's fluffy. And just looks like a polar bears for. Covering the bones of the wheel. Yeah. Think about a whale skeleton draped in a polar bear for coat selfish coming out of the bones and the bacteria just clustering around. Sucking it up. For years. When you step back and look at it, these dead whales, it'd become like planets, and you find creatures living on them that you don't find anywhere else are now about fifty five species that haven't been found in any other habitat species of animals that only live on whale falls to set mean that these creatures like the whale is their entire world. They don't anything else for some of them. Yeah. What did they do the rest of the time? I mean, this can't happen that often. Well, that's a good question may be that they are living as we as fugitives species. In other words, they just drift around sort of waiting. Can I say hoping? For. And when that happens, they grow quickly produce hundreds thousands, maybe even millions of larvae that broadcast out into the water. Call up then their babies drift around in the darkness waiting. Until. Find another such habitat tens or maybe even hundreds of kilometers away. And repeat. So altogether. I mean, how long can can whale fall last? Well, oil Ken last a large whale skeleton that of a blue large blue Weller fin whale can support a community for fifty to seventy five years. Wow. Which really astounded us, and how does that compare to the lifespan of the whale? Well, it's probably pretty comparable actually whales live on the order of fifty to seventy years something kind of poetic about that. The idea that you know, for the same amount of time that the whale lived. It's it's going to support this life. Yeah. It is it is very appealing. Okay. This is radio lab. You start. Okay. This is radio lab today. We're talking about loops. I'm Robert krulwich. Jan. This is radio up. It's all about loops. Yep. I'm jed Robert listening to radio today. We're talking about Lou, I'm Robert Jad. And it's all about get some John. I'm Robert talk about loops. And speaking of things that happened over and over and over again this show here. Hello. Hijab pay Steve Steven stroke. How are you petition Cornell University? How's it going? I'm good and Steve told us a story about a mathematical loop through mathematicians all over the world for. Story starts way back with a guy named got. Lob Phraya got lob Frago. How you spill. It's not. It's not Gottlieb. It's it seems to be L O B at the end unless it's a typo in every book I've ever seen set this up very quickly. Godfa Frago was a mathematician back in the eighteen seventies and eighties. And he had a dream that mathematics could unlock the secrets of the universe that you could maybe even build a machine feed, it some basic mathematical rules, and it would just start churning out discovery wouldn't even need a human being. That's how powerful he thought math could be. But that let them to a question. If math is the most fundamental thing in the universe. What is the most fundamental part math? What the foundation is numbers. Is you know, one two three that's what you would think. But gotta he said, no, there's a deeper thing than numbers. The deepest thing of all is is what today we call sets the the set of things. So. Yeah. So like what's a set? Steve explain it to us. Using all things Sesame Street really old episode far as just to set it up here. It's two people working at the furry arms hotel. There's Humphry who's got a green knows in pink face and his girlfriend or actually know what she is she my wife Ingrid. And so their hotel keepers, Ernie is in the background. And so in group and Humphry are taking an order. Room service order from a room full of penguin. Humphry says I'll take your order, Mr. penguins. Fish fish fish fish. Humphry says let me check if I got that. Right. Fish fish, fish fish fish. He calls over to Ingrid whose going to call it into the kitchen. So he tells Ingrid fish fish fish fish, fish, Ingrid, says fish fish, fish, fish fish. No. That's not right. Because she only says a five times. But then Ernie explains skill Ingrid and Humphrey. I have a better way for you to do this better. Count the fish. One do. And six fish. Day, both realize Ingrid and Humphrey. How powerful this is a nice. I does it work for. Cinnamon, roll sparkplug, absolutely. That's the point that what cinnamon buns, spark plugs. And fish the sets have in common is that there are six in each. I if you try to say, what is six really mean. It's the thing that those sets have in common, according to Steve it's not so much the number six that's important here. Again, that's just the label for this characteristic that all these piles seem to share. It's the pile itself. The set that is the most basic thing so free. Well, this is it sets are the bedrock. That I've been looking for we can build the rest of math on top of then I can make my math machine will solve the universe. And I think he published a book sort of showing how this might work except that Russell Bertrand petition then found a devastating paradox that ended up well. Annihilating push Raga had tried to do Russell's paradox is now become known as the barber paradox. It's a little thought experiments in this case the set is a town. Yep. Town with people yet one barber with the following this town, the barber shaves everyone who doesn't shave himself the bar. All right, everyone who doesn't shave himself says some people shave themselves some people go to the barber that's the universe. We're in a town where everyone who doesn't shave himself as shaven by this barber. And now the question is who shaves the barber. Who shaves remember the barber the barber has the property that he shaves everyone who doesn't shave himself. So you can't shave himself. But on the other hand, he doesn't shave himself. Then he's one of those people who doesn't shave himself and therefore shaving by the Barbara, maybe the barber. Here's two solutions for. Not shave couldn't he news, not shave. Or town shave. Maybe he could set up some sort of mechanical device that sort of one of our. Thing that you can't shave can answer sensibly what happens to the barber, and no one has there's nothing to say either does or doesn't shave himself by ordinary Aristoteles logic because the barber can't shave himself. He can't not shave himself. So so there's some ruin that's what ruined them. Universe. Good ruin and after noon. Wait for a couple of hours after lunch before you go swimming. I can't see overthrowing all all life's work. Does it does? It turns out to be very very problematic for the foundations of math 'cause what this barber paradox. The reason. It was so annoying to mathematicians was that math is supposed to be this logical thing. Right. Logic is the lifeblood of math and yet here you had this little bit of math. There was illogical a self contretemps predicting set, but Bertrand Russell the guy who came up with all this. He didn't lose faith. He felt well this is just a problem with set theory. So then he spent a long time trying to make a theory. I think he called a theory of types instead of sets, and these he had certain admission rules that he thought would prevent paradoxes from happening. And for a while. It was looking pretty good under Bertrand. Russell system. It was no logical problems. No paradox. Describing little German guy comes along and you say his name girdle. I hear I hear it often pronounced while. I don't speak German, but mathematicians often say like the woman's piece of clothing from the old days. Coudl? There's a kind of. This is Jonah down eleven. She is written a book about Google. And I am a professor of physics astronomy at Barnard college. She says the point at which Google enters our story, it's nineteen thirties. Vienna. Austria just recently finished, his what would be a doctoral degree appear de smart, dude, kind of rising star. It was no question that people around him understood. But he was also maybe a little bit off. He had real breaks with you know, reality he was in the biographies. They'd call him a paranoid schizophrenic, but he seemed more kind of obsessive depressive. I don't know. My my armchair psychology. Terms are accurate, but but he was in and out of sanatoria, and and he had real difficulties being sure what was real the only reality. He really trusted was math circles shapes prime numbers formulas axioms, right? And it's a certain point he got into paradoxes perhaps it was the Barbara paradox. Lured Amon, we don't know, but he began to think about and actually experiment with some of these paradox glucose, so he took something. Like the paradox the liar paradox. Aligarh says this statement is ally this statement is ally. Right. If it's true, then it's false NF. It's false than it's true. This statement is ally. If you think about that too much you might. It's a good. It was interested in that phrase. And for various reasons, he took it tweaked it a little bit to come up with the following statement. This statement is on provable. This statement is on provable. Which is very important to know is if it's if it's provable, then it's unprovable obviously a little bit of a word game. At Gouda thought forget words, what would happen. If I converted this statement into math because in math things are either provable or unprovable, they cannot be both at the same time. It's either true or false in if it's true debt, you should be able to prove. Yeah. So he said I'm going to assign a special number unique number to make that a purely mathematical statement by coating it in a very clever way into arithmetic. So to be honest. We don't completely get this very very clever. Once he did his math. He stuff he had a rigorous mathematical statement right there on the page. He looked at it. And he realized that what he just said in math is it the following statement. This. Statement is on provable is it's true because it's actually unprovable. Meaning in math. This statement actually is unprovable. Because it is true. The logic of math will not let you prove that it is true. So it might be true. We'll just never know. Nothing like that is supposed to happen. In math. Things are supposed to be true or not true. And you're supposed to be able to prove every truth things has Steve. So if there's something that you can't prove that means that the math is is strangely. Incomplete. It's always called his incompleteness theorem. That's the phrase girdle incompleteness theorem is that if you have a system of axioms that are consistent, meaning they don't contradict themselves. They're necessarily incomplete that is. There are certain statements. You can make within that system that you can't prove or disprove and all of math has this character. This is the big shock that. This is not just about word games about logic puzzles with Barbour's, this is as devastating for even just counting for one two three four. In other words, math is shot through and through with these kind of statements that you can't either prove or disprove seriously, the deep thinkers at the time were amazed at this. It was recognized as one of the great ideas of the of the twentieth century for sure maybe of all time. I mean, maybe I should make more concrete. There's a question as far as I know is still not solved. Steve gave this example of if a problem something called Goldbach conjecture cana- gives you a sense of what incompleteness feels like so Goldbach conjecture says that you can always write any even number as some of two prime numbers. So let me give you some examples of that like say twelve remember first of all prime number means, you can divide it by one by itself. Like seven is a prime number. You could divide by one and seven but nothing else. Okay. All right. So twelve which is an even number is seven plus five. Those are both pro right? Let's try another one. How 'bout twenty four that's eleven plus thirteen right? Okay. Or thirty six nineteen plus seventeen even number. Now, this has been checked out to I don't know what billions trillions maybe. Hundreds of trillions. So no one has ever found a counter example to Goldbach conjecture. And here's the thing. You might think that either it's true or false. It might be that this statement every even number is some of prime's, it might be neither true nor false. But what we today? Call undecided. -able undecided. As term that comes from Google decide. Yeah. I mean suppose in some ethereal are transcendental sense. Like that is suppose that there's God. And God knows that this is true. Then you know, what about us here among the world of human beings. All we can do is check each even number and every time we check it's true. Would that that would never constitute a proof because we'd never run out of numbers? Few than say that to understand everything you either have to defer to God who does understand everything if you believe in God. But if you don't believe in God, you didn't have to live with mystery and not knowing. I'm gonna say, yes. Uh-huh. Encapsulated a perfectly, and I think that girdle himself was I think belief in all kinds of mystical things like for him. This was very freeing liberating because it meant that there were that we couldn't be mechanized. There was profound mystery forever. I I'm on your team here. But let me just point out something Google when he died. He was not exactly liberated. He was a paranoid. Like he thought people were trying to poison him. He starved himself to death. He wasn't exactly liberated. Well. But I choose to believe that somewhere in his tortured mind, and then I guess was pretty tortured. There was a little fellow humming. A song song of liberation. This problem. Problems. Problems. Thanks to Steve stroke ATs has a new book called infinite powers. How calculus reveals the secrets of the universe? And also, thanks to Jan eleven her book about Goodell is called a madman dreams of turing machines. And finally our last do piece. Yeah. This one liked the last one involves things feeding back on themselves kind of like classic positive feedback loop, which is what exactly well, it's like when you can do audio you take a speaker in a Mike you put the effete the sound from the speaker into the Mike in the back into the speaker into the Michael multiple multiplies. And then you get something like. Pave horrible definitely be painful, but that kind of feedback loop like in the case of our next story can also take the pain away. Yes. Comes to us from this lady. I'm Melanie thurnstrum. She's a writer author book on pain called the pain chronicles, which is a book that began as a chronicling of her own pain, which has been suffering from every day for the last fifteen years, and what sort of oh pain in my neck, right shoulder. And right side of my head all it once. Yeah. Did it start with something? Did you hit hit it there or how did it start? It didn't start with an injury of any kind. But it did start at a discrete time goes back to nineteen ninety seven. She was upstate New York at a country house on a date. It was our first date and I wanted to impress him. So I swam across a pond by the mile across was this your idea or was this his idea? It was my idea. That's a different kind of I and you made it all the way there and back. Yes. And nothing happened. But that night what you got in the bed. I was kept awake. By this strange burning sensation in my shoulder and neck. I didn't get the the head pain for like four more years, and that particular pain never went away and got worse over time. Like a nerve a nerve was. Yeah. I mean, eventually I got an MRI couple years later. And there was nerve impingement my spine over the years. She says she's tried everything tried drugs and she's tried physical therapy. She's tried distraction like I'll go to a matinee. And if it's a scary movie. I just don't stay focused on the paint, so destruction can work. But then she says as soon as she gets out of the movie it's back and it's angry for being ignored. Sometimes I'd have the sensation. Like that that right side of my head was like dying nerves with dying dead tree image, which kind of frighten me that thought that thought would make the pain word and making the pain worse will inspire further negative fantasies, which will make the panel. Panos which will inspire more fantasy? Yeah. Lived goes positive feedback loop yet in a negative sort of way. Right. And eventually melanie's decided, okay? I'm gonna write a book about this. Do some research highlights. Reading a lot about self inflicted pain in religious rights, and I actually went to witness a Hindi festival type who Sam in Kuala Lumpar in what she saw a really changed her mind about things, and you can see video of this of festival on YouTube. What you see is dense crowd of folks in the middle of the crowd there monks. Doing insane acts of devotion literally like Threadneedle through their tongues poke skiers through their cheeks waited hawks dangle from their backs and yet she says when she would look in their faces they seemed relax. There is a tear up the gas for breath, really relaxed wasn't just that they were tolerating the pain. It's actually seemed like they weren't in pain. At all. And I would think okay. This person here. You can't become a religious Hindi in order to experience this analgesic that's cheating. But I did feel like okay. So one way to describe it is faith, but for every way, you can describe in religious terms. There's also a way you can describe things in in scientific terms. The reality is all of our pain is in our head which brings us to this guy. This is Sean Mackey chief of the Stanford pain management division, and he will tell you that one of the most basic facts about pain is that it is not purely physical. We've got signals coming up from the body that are sending us a message like if you wack a tow the signal shoots up some nerves in your leg into your spine and those signals converge in our brain. And before you even feel a thing there are a multitude of what I refer to as little amplifiers throughout our brain that turn up and turn down the overall paint experience, and these amplifiers are things like your mood hangs. Zayed's depression. Attention spectators all of these things feedback onto that signal coming up from the body, and they can either boosted up past a certain point where. You get a sensation of pain. Or they can deaden it down down down down down down down down toward you don't feel anything at all point is pain is a conversation between the brain and the body and Sean thought what would happen if I actually let people see that conversation. Could they took control of it? Yes. So he did a study in Melanie signed up. So describe what happens in this experiment. So you put in this MRI machine put somebody into a scanner a brain scanner, and you have screen in front of you. And what you see on the screen is something that normally only the researchers would see you see your own brain in real time. Yeah. Well, you're not seeing the whole thing. Just in one piece called the anterior cingulate cortex there many parts of the brain that respond to pain. But that's the one that it's an area that has been shown to be involved with pain perception, turning pain up and down. It's thought to give pain it's emotional Valence. It's negative. Do you actually see an image of this little piece of your brain right there in front of you on this? Screen image. You're looking at your brain. No, no, that's confusing to everybody. So instead, we give a visual metaphor EC an image of fire plane in an ice cave, nude is kind of a cartoon flame. But it looks realistic. Look through the leap into the. And the more activation. There is in that region. The hires plane. So Melanie is lying in the scanner watching her own pain flames and Sean gives her a set of instruction. We say, okay, we want you to imagine that you're sitting in a nice, warm, soothing jacuzzi. Branding is back. This burning is very relaxing. I'm relaxing into. Pretty soon. It's kind of. Skeldon out before she knew at the flames were rallying, so Sean. Okay. Okay. So how about your lying on a beautiful beach? You know, this is a pleasant suntan. The sand is nice and warm and pleasant I'm gonna look so good in my new bathing suit. If I just keep getting like this in burn. All right. And then the flames kind of go crazy her thoughts Kip slipping out of her control. If every time she would see those flames rise, she would think Ono the flames are rising, which would make them rise, even more and more and more until she had this bonfire on the screen, your mmediately struck by they look like the flames where you're going to the flames where you're burned at the stake. I've been reading a lot of lives or saints about. Melanie had an idea. She said, what am I take this negative image and flip? And then I started trying to move into the idea of being a Saint or martyr, and that I believe that I would have pain that I was protected by my fate in this. Melanie sort of thinking about this. She could see the flames dying down just a little bit. Because I this isn't you know, me this is actually like part of my fantasy land thought. Okay. I'll try this. Let me keep going in that kind of feeling I was trying to pick one of the few prayers. I I knew I mean, I I didn't I'm half Jewish and half Christian. So I was sort of not settled in onto what kind of martyr. I would. You know, I started thinking really be Jewish martyr since you know, if you're half Jewish. It's the right side Jewish more than Christian and Jewish martyrs. What prayers did they say it s she added and revised details not continued to make the flames go down. Okay. I'm in the right brain state. Let me do more of that. So Melanie, finally decided, okay, I'm going to beat this one particular Jewish martyrs names. Akiva, Ben Joseph. He was burned at the stake by the Romans for teaching the Torah, and there's a particular legend that just as the executioner is about to set fire to the logs right underneath his feet. Akiva, stared the executioner in the eyes and smiled and the execution was like why are you smiling you're about to be burned alive and Kifah said all my life. When I said those words you shall love. The Lord your God with all your heart with all your soul. I was sad. Because I thought when shall I be able to fulfil that command? And now that I'm giving my. Life in my resolution remains firm. Why shouldn't I smile? And by the time Melanie had this fantasy built up in her mind. She looked over at the flames. And she noticed they were almost gone zero zero pain for the first time, she taking control of it. I felt like, wow, I am watching my brain thinking my thoughts. And I am. Changing my thoughts by thinking and watching myself do this. So you are looking at yourself looking at yourself looking at yourself looking at yourself. Yes. It's pure inside. And seeing the ghost in the machine I felt like someone taking their first step on the moon. Like, I am watching my brain thinking, my thoughts. And I am thinking my thoughts changing my thought by thinking. And watching my thoughts watching. My brain's changing my thoughts by thinking. And watching myself do this. But I needed to stop need to establish this that once you were did your two sessions on your inbetween exercises without this all these gizmos. Could you could you address your pain? Yeah. Better know like you'd think. Well, okay. Can't you just get the feedback from your own body? But somehow, this insatiable isn't quite direct enough that I think that you could do it without the visual feedback. But for that moment in that machine. It was. For we go very special. Thanks to our singers. Who joins us this hour from the new music on samba LaGuardia high school, they are Kelly if the museum Soto green hope ruby firm, those guys wrote and performed all the music between the pieces you guys rock and thanks to the guy who teaches them organize this, Mr. rubber apostle. Watching my right-thinking changing, my thoughts my washing. My brain thinking, my thoughts changing. Let's begin. Did. 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Footnotes: Ask Us Anything

My Dad Wrote a Porno

19:12 min | 2 years ago

Footnotes: Ask Us Anything

"Hello. And welcome to my dad votes. The footnotes. Now, it's time for you guys to ask as anything got James. Yeah, we call out on social media for questions and we've had over five. So this is going to be amazing. Is this an AMA remember we did in AMA once we didn't really know how it worked. And we folks it right up. It's an it's an Oscar sitting good, really pieces yourself. So that one can I just get one out of the way. Just just just to kick us off. Oh, yes. Show always show blender isn't pregnant we followed your daily life a month. Now, not once that she had a period that Saleh. I don't think that that's me writing about her menstrual cycle. But you know, maybe something book eight. You always say like when people complain about Belinda going to the toilet and things like why of course. Yeah. Right. These thing. Harry Potter doesn't goes to either. But no one's like Cording JK rounding being like excuse me here had to pay when ages he detonated up. She might be getting mail screening all of them were we're gonna do the same. Lisa says, I actually want to know more about you three. What do you do for a living? Many. She says. Mutter opponent change your daily life in any way. So the same question. Different questions James very successful. Tv producer BAFTA nominated BAFTA nominees. Certificate. It doesn't say it doesn't say your name on. It says production team. Work. Alice. You are you do many things. I'll you lucky. We're nice woman. Right. Sure. I'm like a TV radio personally reporting. Designer as well written on my CV. So if. Yeah. Or if people are looking for them all do it and Jamie your well. Not only do. You. Edit this podcast, which people will be surprised to hear that we added to just ramblings in the door. Time spent on that direct. Do you have one of those Chaz director, I don't, but maybe you could get for Christmas like nice can actually talk about my proudest career achievement. We know you note for after no no pattern that I created body ending. Okay. Number one, even saying to you didn't even know you create it. So how can you say you create it? Okay. So Barry day is this mean that's been doing around two years of Jesse from little mix doing Jamaican accent. And I am the reason exists watchman. You're the reason you have always folks. So I was a producer job where we were doing a YouTube channel where we interviewed celebrities. Someone emailed us like little mix. It come in. Our do something with them. And it was around the time like accent challenges were big on YouTube a you'd like to go. That was heyday wasn't it. I'm very pull out different accents and have them. So Jesse pulls out Jamaican, and then just makes this radio. Bizarre noise. She has Bari Beck. Didn't think any more than that? And does a Jamaican accent. So she just do what you make it that wasn't her to identify. She's like warming up to do what you make an maybe she claims, it's a noise that little mix make to each other. When meth thinking. They don't think joking Beagles. Anyway, we put it in the video lighten really not thinking which and then it just became like shed everywhere at work a lot. But what do you say Marley in the valley? So your body and the didn't create. Oh my God. Okay. I was in trouble. We've all touched zeitgeist in our own ways. Craig Smith wants to know of based on Jamie's dance push on for writing. But if support cast about James and Alice's parents hobbies, what would they be? What would it be about? That's easy for me. I think my mom is a she's a keen allotment Mantilla. Yes. So I think it'll probably be gardening podcast. She goes all the my Moreau's all the genes. Scott, kind of lovely salt trees. I think that she could do quite nice Prescott as I was saying. I was like, please don't do this without me. How can I be a producer? Dot do you play tennis or squash tennis, and he's a huge Chelsea football fan. Can those two things Mary's? Maybe a sports. Do those jobs? Be how to make soaring of eating copious amounts of soaring. All he does lovers across stitch. He loves sewing. Sewed an f one car which I think is have mounted on the wall. My parents funds little life. Cool things that you stitch. That's cool. He liked that. My mum what is doing playing on the ipad crush on the ipod? Also, could she do a kind of twitching ipad twitching podcast? So she's like she's doing one about watching other people, and I to or twitch twitching. Oh, what am I? All she could up a candy crush twitch. Yeah. Make fortune. Oh, good. Well, when this whole wraps up, at least, you got avenues to explore a lot man, my mom. Played candy crush my stepdaughter needlepoint. Jamie and Alice dating. Is it that obvious dating just bumping uglies hall horse really cannot keep that? Yeah. I think we'd be that compatible. I think we'd have a very fiery. Passionate the highs would be high. Some days spe-. Michael the kissing would be by. Oh my God. How much would I have to pay you to kiss me? It's weird. You like one of my sisters Uttley autism Danes. I think. This name of most likely to kiss JV and James. Looking. Vera, once just to be reminded of something. She says Jamie mentioned at some point that he knows someone who has an expression to describe shit degree something about left turn. I will tell. Degree in cake and Morris dancing from the university of you left toe. Still use that big red Jane for that one brilliant. Someone said not a question just wanted to say hi from a smoke, swing dancer. Smug honestly, so smoke. Hello to you. Katie does Martin support group has asked. What's your fav-? Jers a breathe of how rocky Flintstone? Okay. So this is your dad's preferred reply structure, which is just a U S apostrophe, plus verb. Like just saying just do I have to he was once talking about what is favorite meal wasn't really said Turkey sandwich, just jumping. Good one. Was drunk when he wrote the books, and he just said just Hicken. I love him. Sarah wants to know, how did you three meet Europe seen Utah? That's a good one. Well, we all met at university the university of Leeds. Yes at different times both separately. And then we kind of somehow all became then we met through you. I think. Yeah. You boys all together? Too strong met Jamie a Halloween party. You did Jones hated me. The I I didn't hate us. You James acitivity disposed. How do you? Actively despise them. Jim this party like it was around freshest week. We're quite. James just being really funny and Jamie, and I was just not been now. He's. Full of it. And then we ended up walking home together, really. Really? Early. I was was your played. Special. The time to debate. He just liked cuddling, boys. All of the actually the first time that we met because I'm not proud of this actually. But you are. I'm actually not the night that we walked home. We so proud of the member a kind of a pile of road pain on the pavement, which is. And I was like, oh, we should really shit faced. We should let right or names on the pavements. Always. This maverick. And so like like takeaway leaf in this vote Jamie on the pavement leads outside the pockets and building which is quite big landmark in the city. And then I went to write James underneath that. I got as far as the little J. And he was like, I think our names are similar enough. Just. Just. Changes such a goody two shoes. Did you don't want to be there for time in memoriam? It's not wise is it to graffiti with your own name. Probably not ideal have photographic evidence of the tool, art installation, and has enjoyed for as long as the friendship. No it's longer now. So in writing. Of course. It's all gone sorry about that. So go. Alice on a bus ones, you were friends with my friends, will you offended, my friend Rochon Alice was like really funny and she's embarrassed weapon about something or other. Then it really more of it. And then a bumped him to a one day in love with me. We got to know. And you thought we were dating for a while. I didn't I did think that little bit. But is because you gave me all the signals. There was one night. I was in my flat. And I got text from Alice saying are over and Barra de I was chiseled route. I mean, it was all I was a blockbuster about them like everyone used to come and borrow my DVD's and stuff. On my best chapstick on one. Oil in the door and its allies. I thought it was an Alice in my building who had frequently Bora DVD's from much cooler than me, and he was really excited to lend it to her, and then he actually opened the door went. Oh, it's you. What was the DEA of interest Garden State got that? So that is so do those five. Give it back. You do think of in my collection to this day. You can borrow it. When it was the last DVD ivory turned. Yeah. You weren't very happy. But then to be fair, we did for your friendship and some of the best eight went on watch Titanic together. Many nights. We win purple romantic. And then I guess we just kind of. Eating. Which one are you again? That reporter. About you at all. I think we met under first year. Really remember you not being there. That's not by don't remember meeting. You. It's I don't remember not knowing you. I feel civil. Gareth is asked when did the singing stone on the podcast, and how soon can it be stopped already sassy little well, actually, I have always enjoyed singing enjoyed having. My voice is actually I think more sultry with age as progresses progressed. I feel like it's become kind of more textured than ever remain bad tone deaf tone death. Yes, how you guys out of your mind? Can't sing either. I will admit Dame's things he can sing is flat. As you like king me. No should stop saying that what did he say hates the singing yet? She likes. She thinks like ours is talking about James. Okay. No more singing than screw yellow. I've katie. And this is come up quite a lot. Actually, I've seen this. This question bobbing around. Does anyone know what happened to balloon does fledgling us knickers business genuinely onto something? She was onto something. I think maybe they were just favors just kind of. She was currying favour with favors a one off as a little memento. You know, Jim sweet make sure she's kind of greasing those business context. So we might not see that reappear. I wouldn't hold your breath on that won't go to a lot of people, which is now a lot of people asking similar questions like has Rockies writing influence your sexual behavior in any way. No, of course, not what you want about as it to anyone if we tracked it would we say generally as to having more or less sex. Meeting of the book. About it. Ryan has said question for you James actually when spoon was introduced. We got our first potentially bisexual character. And even though it's probably not going to happen. If you could choose to male characters from the books that could have an affair who would they go. Excellent question. Ryan Ryan, I'm so glad. I guess it would have to be Marco. So we got. And as the youngest man I was gonna say Butch sunburn kid, oh, he's a twin. No, Peter rows. I think that both good looking guys. I like to think of a really good dartboard who note in wasn't. He describes a six pack, but he's older. Isn't it seems the thing is I always imagine all the men dump e balls night by think recently, I've tried to get past that and actually go with what rookies actually described six pack marker Rigas gorgeous has had that voice that was so so. Saved. Arabia's area. Well, said that she looked to he goes. Those two Rigas and rouse. Okay. Good choices, very arousing Alice from Vicky does honest like non y. Question, whichever see. So so for for. And why? Day question. Today from. Let's recap from out. Ryan steve. Is it time for Belinda? Blink musical. Oh. I mean. Yeah. I think. Alice as all of the characters. I'd love to make into musical. Yeah. I think we have to some point matching the stuff you could write songs about pots and pans Ron to so much. Does that Perata? Ten points if you can run good coaches could do like a big ballot number about dildos or something. Workshop. So Duffy, not sure this is the songstress, but Duffy wants to know questions for Alyssa Wien and James Cooper, have your parents met rookie Flintstone. And if so what are the talk about? I don't know if they have actually my parents have met rocky. Mother's love your parents. My parents your parents. I guess I'll see each other on the big day. How have you ever met mine? Because sometimes the Flintstones come to a live show. But they've never been at the same show at thing. I'm purpose. One of our early ones. They must have been insane. But we used to live with each other for years. They never met. Rectify that show issue a little big Christmas. All of our parents Bamber table. My goodness. We cannot say try. I mean, your family we taking up half the table so many. Gabriel says will you please admit, Jamie. The rookie Flintstone knows about anal play. Michelle says will you please say as well, let's just say, Jamie. Johnny says say my dad is an expert in new play. And that's why don't have seventeen siblings. Karen says just say it, Eric. Join massey's. Say what you want me to say. My dad is an expert in anal planner for star is not an expert in anything. So to say, I are he's not an expert NATO plan. Then we've got we need. We need. Look, I just don't think I need to say I think his writing really says it all speaks for itself. So you're saying he is an expert, and I don't know if you read the book, just say. We're not gonna have this every week Grady has a question. Do you worry that rocky might get too big for his boots and hire replacement Castro's readings? Wants to love. Who'd you think he'd fire? I may now all essential to the title. Yeah. I know I think me now once told me, I'm the Michelle of the podcast. What does that mean what you'll be beyond? So because it can't happen without you. Oh, I'm Kelly. I'm Kelly Rowland, Kelly Rowland. These child cushy such a funny woman. And I'm Michelle because I'm surplus to requirements James. We all love you. You're the most popular one. Number one gospel album. No. And then press Zane scoff. He's been buffet nominated. He's a whole production team. The Michelle of the pocus way. It definitely would be me. Because Jamie, as we've just as you're in the title, James, your the favor, even more than Jamie. Anything troublemaker? And he isn't. Well, that was the comprehensive overview that's enough now. Yeah. I think it's too much. They really good though, fun. Thanks for the question. Or if we didn't get round to your we should do this again today, we should leave them wanting more which was about ten minutes ago. Okay. By nothing.

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I'm In Love With That Song: Pink Floyd - 'Us And Them'

Pantheon

00:00 sec | 4 months ago

I'm In Love With That Song: Pink Floyd - 'Us And Them'

"Welcome to the I'm in love with that Song podcast I'm your host Brad page? A few weeks ago, I made a guest appearance on the pods and sods network with Craig Smith, discussing our favourite pink. Floyd songs. One of the songs I picked was us and them. And I've been thinking a lot about that song ever since and in the weeks since we've recorded that show, this song has become even more present. It feels like it means more now in this moment in time the never before. So, let's explore this song some more. Together. This is pink floyd. With us and them. US and them is of course one of the songs from the album, the dark side of the Moon, one of the most famous. In history I'm sure many of you have heard this song hundred times. It's difficult to listen to something like this with fresh ears, but I'm going to ask you to listen like you're hearing the song for the first time or at least to hear it in a new way. That's important. The music for this track was written by keyboard player. Richard, right, in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, nine pink. Floyd was hired to do the soundtrack for the film Zabriskie Point and Rick. Right came up with this piece of music for the film. At the time, the song went by the working title of the violence sequence, but the director didn't like it. He thought it sounded too sad, so he didn't end up using it, and it was shelved until nineteen seventy two, when the band started working on dark side of the moon. Here's a bit of that early version the violence sequence. So. Rick right pulled the track out of the mothballs, blue, the dust off it and bass player Roger, waters wrote the lyrics Roger would describe the song as being about whether the human race is capable of being humane. On the album us and them fades in while the song money fades out. Let's pick it up right after that cross fade with Rick right playing his Hammond rt three organ through a Leslie rotating speaker. The ban joins in here. Playing fairy delicately Roger Waters on Bass. Nick Mason is playing very gently on the drums. And Guitarist David Gilmour is playing a part on his famous black fender stratocaster that feels as if it's floating along the beat. Listen to the Little Phil. Roger Waters plays on the base. Two new parts are added here Rick Right on piano and saxophone played by Dick Perry. Saxophone. The vocals enter here for the first first David. GILMOUR's voice is double tracked, and features the most important element of the production that echo on the first and third syllable of each I that is. In sync with the beat of the song. Now these days creating that echo would be pretty simple. pull up a piece of software in year recording program linked to the beat of the track and you're done. But back in Nineteen, seventy three, it was nowhere near that easy. It was all done by physically manipulating the tape and the hardware, according to the recording engineer Alan Parsons of all the effects they used on dark side of the moon. There are a lot of them. This echo was the most difficult one to achieve. Let's listen to this I again. Let's go back and listen to the piano on the first verse very similar to what he played in that early version. This is the bedrock that the song is built on. The key element is a two note, phrase both D and apart. Though, the cords top of them change. Those denotes are always at the bottom. This creates an almost meditative effect. The Along with the Piano Richard Wright is also playing an organ part. Let's listen to that for a bit. We've reached the first chorus. The lyrics of the first first and first chorus deal with war in particular Roger. Waters was thinking about world, War One and the horrors of being on the front line during that war. Here are the lyrics to this first chorus and I think these are really powerful. Forward! He cried from the rear, and the front rank died, and the General Sat, and the lines on the map moved from side to side. The lead vocals are a little low in the mix during the choruses, so let's see if we can bring them forward a bit just to hear this chorus. To increase the impact of the choruses, there are some new elements added. There's a distorted fuzz tone guitar. The bass sounds a little over driven to me to David Gilmour and Rick Right, harmonized together on the chorus, and there are some fantastic backing vocals to let's just listen to that full course again as it sounds in the final mix. Let's spend a little time listening to David Gilmour's guitar parts the verse. I like the little touch on the piano here. Wrong. Let's focus in on the background here? Especially those backing. Singing background on these sessions were Lesley. Duncan Barry Saint John. Liza strike and Doris Troy. If. You're a Beatles Fan. The name Doris Troy may sound familiar to you. She recorded an album on the Beatle's apple records label. It was produced by George Harrison here on this track. Backing vocals really add so much power and emotion to the song. Let's listen. Rick Right takes a beautiful piano solo here. Show. Okay, so that piece of dialogue in the background various speaking voices appear all throughout the dark side of the Moon Album, Roger Waters had written a series of questions on cards, and he would bring in people who were in and around the studio, and ask them these questions and record their answers on this track you hear the voice of Roger Manifold. He's one of Pink Floyd's roadies and the question that he's responding to is. When was the last time you were violent? and Roger Manifold starts telling a story about a traffic altercation. He had where someone had open the car door and almost hit him, and this was his response. Kid. If you give a quick sh short shop shock. They don't do it Agai. Eagle. Give. One. I. Mean Good manage down now. The bits of conversation that appear throughout the dark side of the moon album address, death, violence and madness. The music never judges these voices. It's neither sympathetic nor critical of them. But I always got the feeling that these people are trying just as hard to convince themselves of their own convictions as much as they're trying to convince us. After the dialogue excerpt, the saxophone returns for another Solo. Check out the guitar like David Gilmour throws in right before the Sax Solo. The SAX gets more wild. Is it plays over the chorus? Not. The Final Verses About Poverty and homelessness that homeless man on the street that you pass by on your way to work down and out. David Gilmour plays some really nice delicate guitar parts under that section. The next part of the first has my favorite little moment in the whole son has we've heard the first and third syllables of each line. Have that echo on them? But in this final verse, as he sings the words with and without. The? Word with has the ECHO, but the word without doesn't without is without the ECHO. It's just the perfect hutch that. The meaning of the words it's brilliant. Oh? One more thing before we wrap up this last I there's something really special that happens. When the mood of the music perfectly matches the tone of the lyrics and I can't think of a better example of that than this song. This music is a complete expression of the sentiment of the lyrics. The words here don't offer up any easy answers because there are no easy answers. The lyrics just acknowledged the cold hard truth about our nature to be tribal to have our prejudices and the urge to draw lines between us and them. The lyrics though they never actually say are asking. Can we ever get past? This and the music is like a collective sigh of resignation. That's what it sounds like to me that Cy. Is this just our fate or is there? Hope For us? Are we going to go through this over and over and over? That's what I hear in this music that never ending struggle. Let's listen to that I again. It's. In the final chorus speaks to the callousness in south absorption in all of us. It goes out of the way it's a busy day and I've got things on my mind for the want of the price of tea and a slice. The old man died. Now at this point the song is over. It's transitioned or cross faded into the next track on the album. Instrumental called any color you like that's what you're hearing now. The complete version of them runs seven minutes and forty nine seconds when it was released as a single in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, four, the record company chopped it down to three minutes and fifteen seconds less than half of its original length. That's a travesty. Later versions that appeared on greatest hits collections used studio trickery like adding echoes Reever, but the enter mask this transition, but we're sticking to the original version here, so let's fade out on any color you like. US and them by Pink Floyd. Music can't change the world. I wish it were true. Only it were that easy you. We have to make the changes. What music can do is make you see what needs to change music and enlighten it can challenge you. It can make you feel for a condition or a situation in a way that the plain facts just can't. We have to do the hard work. But the music will be there to inspire us. Thanks for joining me on this episode of I'm in love with that song. We are just one of the many podcasts on the Pantheon podcast network, so please check out some of their other shows. I'll be back in two weeks with the next episode until then find us on facebook. Just search for the I'm in love with that song. PODCAST. 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What Direction Are The Bruins Going In? | Poke the Bear w/ Conor Ryan

Poke the Bear

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What Direction Are The Bruins Going In? | Poke the Bear w/ Conor Ryan

"And welcome to poke the bear episode 113 presented by bet us I'm Aronofsky alongside Connor ride a Boston Sports Journal Connor how we doing Evan? I think like most Bruins fans. I've mostly just been sitting on the couch the last four or five days waiting for any moves. So I think I resonate with I think how most Bruins fans are feeling over the last as weekend at least not much to get excited about it's funny. I mean Saturday morning Craig Smith signs Friday night the John Sweeney pressed her being pushed back. Everyone's kind of like it might do something here and they didn't or they have it at least. I don't know when it's coming and it's it's starting to feel like another John Sweeney off season of just kind of minor moves minor tweaks, you know, we like our roster. We like our internal competition wage. Oh, yeah, that's sort of how it's been. I mean, that's what it's you know, Craig Smith is a great addition, but doesn't it doesn't put your best Tampa. I don't know if I put you past, you know. Any teams, you weren't getting past before I mean, look how stacked the West is getting so last night late last night. One of the defense from the Bruins. We all thought the Bruins might be in on would be Nate Schmidt Las Vegas because Alex Strangelove went there. Somehow Vegas is printing its own money must be getting some top hit. The casino Rothstein is the like cap compliance office and it's just like off this cash or something. But yes, there's got to be some sort of you know going on and say yeah. Oh, yeah, it's it's just a laundromat. Yeah, but so often they needed to free up some space as Vegas does and Nate Schmidt one of their defenseman was thought to be on the move to somewhere and US Bruins people said, I'd be sorry for the Bruins. You need a top-four left shot defenseman. That's him. He does cost a little bit, you know 5.8 a year until 2025 is the most palatable deal but just always the room for improvement with him. You know, he's solid. You know, what your job Get you know consistency is key, especially with these Bruins. And he goes to the Vancouver for a third-round pick 482 paired round pick in 2022. Yes, and we sit here going way to suck it. That is so much better than the real trade or the the talks for it. Like obviously, you know, you'd save money for about 3 million. If you're if you're if you're going to take back when Larson's whole, you know cap HID bulb and you're also giving away less and it's a third round pick for a position you are in Desperate our feet that desperate need of yeah. I mean you look at what the Bruins are doing right now and I think as as we both said, you know, we love the Craig Smith signing but I think we also said at the time that signing Craig Smith and losing crew crew doesn't roll push move the needle forward for this Bruins team and especially with listen, you're not getting past Tampa the way it is right now, especially with the way we've talked about this multiple times, but the biggest strategy or the biggest kind of thing you notice in a lot of these teams that have gone to the Cup Final or have been contenders last couple of years is a lot of their success has built off of birth. You know strong said defense on supporting and being kind of the framework that whole roster. I mean Tampa as talented as they are we know you know, how how deep and strong the declaw page is and how tough it is to get inside against a team like that the Bruins knew that know that first-hand Dallas is built the same way, right? They've got a lot of like, you know Talent they got a lot of punk movies, but they also have a lot of big guy. I mean or exact Lyndell all those guys st. Louis Blues last year our 2019 rather. I mean huge like pietrangelo Perico Jay bouwmeester all those guys and you know, it's one thing if you like go with like the copycat League, you know format and I think that applies if you look at like, you know teams that are trying to like beefed up their line up like trying to get another Patrick maroon, like I didn't get so like how he doesn't want me to get Patrick maroon, right? Like that's like a copycat kind of mentality but having like a strong set Decor is like a club Got thing that's like an essential part of talking forever. Yeah, I don't know who's, you know coming up with the idea of like we need all of defense and to be like five eleven, you know, it's listening like the life is more, you know welcoming and and you know more fits in with having smaller guys more skilled guys on the blue line, but you still need you know guys down there that you can log heavy minutes that can shut down scoring chances and look at the state of the Bruins decore now, it's like you've got that you've got that vacancy we're kruga is and it's not like you have to get someone who you know playing a story crew gets you need at least someone who's Dependable who can play I'd say you need someone is completely different than Tori crew. Yeah exactly if you happen to need to do it, right like I mean, we saw Chicago traded way too much but they trade it for like acid or offer a guy like that. If you if you lose crude maybe you switch things aren't at a guy like him to the mix or something like that and I mean screw it like wage. We say don't need someone to be just like Torey Krug. But if they signed Eric Gustafson to a one-year three million dollar contract, which he did with Philly. I mean, he's kind of a he's probably even a an extreme version of Krueger. I think he's all offense and no defense at all. But if you sign him for one year and three million bucks, I think you can make the argument like, all right. Well just kind of took the same what we got, but you know, we put him with a defensive guy like Kalo and it kind of balances. It's like the yin and yang kind of balancing out, you know, in terms of that being in D pairing but ruins with him, you know, go by faith teaching Brody goes to Toronto after that. There's really not a lot of intriguing left shot D that are at least you can pencil in comfortably as being you know, like a top-four kind of them are so now you're kind of stuck in situations like all right, we have to you know trade for a top-four kind of guy which I mean you've had that makes me it was right there. I mean you'd have to you know off With the cap, but you know, it's it's tough now cuz you have to trade for another guy and maybe you get another thing that's in a cap Crunch and only will take like a kickback but most likely if you're trying to get an impact top four D. You have to trade away assets and most likely it's going to be someone up front. So are you getting giving up depressed for top floor guy which month you've also have let you know other fluids like to fully go or any of these other guys through that would have helped out your five-on-five place and I have to get rid of the brass who as inconsistent as he is dead still rather have him on the line on your team, right? He's still guy who could hit Thirty goals next year, even if he's up and down but probably give you at least 20. So now you have to trade a guy like him just fill that vacancy look like that's true. So you can just go down the list and you see all these kind of moves going by the Bruins and it's tough because I mean we've talked about how many times we talked about this at the Bruins have to go all in this year and honestly the bath The way the market is kind of set it would seems like it would fall in their favor where a lot of these players are signing average annual value deals that are way below. I think what people projected I mean Tyler toffoli is a 4.25 million. I think probably if this was a normal year you'd probably be looking at what six six and a half probably shouldn't with crude. I mean, we thought crude make upwards of 8 he made yeah five and so the Bruins are in this spot and how it's all right. Well, you look through guac. You have money you have extra money. And again, you have to allocate some of that to a Grizzly look and depressed and stuff like that, but it's not like they're like in this cap crunch where you can send trade John more for like a seventh seventh round pick just like trading for something for Tina like Winnipeg that just needs a body back there. There's ways you can like get Beyond, you know, Sean more becomes a forty thousand a year, which would probably be with the case was but like there's ways you can do it again people also talked about how Vancouver was in such cap hell cuz they got all these horrible khong Excerpts they do. Well, they just went out and got Naismith and nothing like his one thing where it's you know, you're stuck in a situation. But if you've Got Talent available Talent, you can grab for a great deal you go and get it and so far whether it's the worried about how much it's going to cost to retain guys. Like there's like a debrusk or they've got like an internal cap or something which could play into this like, it's you're seeing all these guys signed for good deals and the Bruins not really doing anything and you know, it's it's I don't know how you're going to have kind of this, you know, I don't know how you're going to be shocked if they go into next year with a team. It's not as good and expect they still contend with Tampa when you let all these guys go off the board now and you really haven't done anything. It's funny. You mentioned a few things in there. I'll kind of unpack a few of them. Number one going all in this upcoming offseason. You're starting to see right. Now the way this offseason is playing out with crude leaving how bad it is that you lost that 2019 Cup final which we all know. Yep and how long how annoying and stupid it was that you didn't go harder at the trade deadline this past year because I do believe this past year was probably Your last great shot at the cup like really good chance. They only come obviously covid-19. And and brute strength and they were a tough team to get inside on and to get more skilled at offensive. I feel like they felt like they needed smaller shiftier demon and that's when you started the suck is Lex has to be sure to see crew really hit his stride, you know. Jacob is a plural. So to me, I mean it's sort of like a repudiation in some ways of how they were for so long and they're still you know, good defensively but they're not they're not going to they're not bruising like they used to be you know, I mean when you play think of Boston's decoy you now think of you know, if we look back to last year a little bit of everything but a good amount of skill. Whereas in the past you Char and is primed Boychuk Seidenberg and Quaid like you were getting inside on those guys. So that feels like it's been that way back to the all-in thing real quick. What's their Direction? Like when you think of where the Bruins are going, you know but fast. For years, we could sit safely say they're going for Stanley Cup, and I still think they are and it would say they're going for Stanley Cup because the be stupid not to say it but it's not clear what their direction is cuz we said before the season started, you know, they're not going to you know, break the legs of this thing and restart from the ground up. It'll either be they call in or they retool but it doesn't feel like they're doing either of those things. It feels like they're kind of just standing Pat and adding minor pieces. I don't know. I don't know like you said this that the the crew as long as the top nine as is, you know, the the top four on defense has has I don't know what that's doing. I mean like it feels like you do the same thing all over again. Yeah. I mean, it's tough to kind of just see what the the end game is for this offseason. And again, there's a whole bunch of moves they can still make whether it's a special dog. Like the trade market in terms of getting a a top-four d but you know, it's not like I don't think they're rebuilding cuz if they're rebuilding they wouldn't be holding onto rats. They wouldn't be holding on to create they're going to rebuild Iraq is Rachel going for it. It's just not like his direct you you look at just what the the fact is Eileen into this right and what you're expecting in from this team. Well, I mean, I think especially after they lose in the playoffs and you see them in that kind of that postgame their comments where it's like, I think it was the first time I think they were very cognizant that you know, this could be one of the Alaskan chances at it. Right? I mean you have that kind of, you know need to go in all in this year and you know, you let gallic Taylor Hall kind of slippery fingers and he goes to Buffalo and who knows if they what they offered him to know what that fall through. But if you were going all-in, you know, it's he would go after a guy like that or if you get a guy like Hall and you can trade off Forward to get a you know, a less this was the Bruins should have given up to prosecute Toca for Jack eichel. It's like, you know, if it's I don't know how you look at the the way that moves are gone right now and think that it's moving the needle forwards. It feels like you took one step forward with Smith and a couple of steps back because I don't know how this Decor as it is. It's going to get you through a full season a full playoffs. Wait, I mean, oh Kevin Miller now, we know that well, it's like and even if you bring him back and he's somewhat healthy which like is a lot hanging on that right in terms of how we can get you know, that knee holds up is those guys are going to be ones that you know, you're still you don't have a web page don't have a table for D. You don't have anyone who can slide in there unless you want to roll out Jacobs arboreal and our whole back in dine-in so that you think like think forward to that. That's a huge story line off. Roots come out with Jacobs Barrel go back and I don that left side with Brandon Carlo. That's a huge story line that is massive. That is the first time in years. They've made a legit change to their top four and you also have risen up with McEvoy probably. Yes, if if things go as we think they will which not that doesn't happen yet. But yep, but that is Monumental and I don't know how that puts you near a Stanley Cup. I don't like, you know, Jacobs Bora was like he was off comparing D in Providence, correct, if he started to show real signs of growth. Yeah in the in the second half of this passage, which a leech told us back in like April or May, but I just You need a legitimate top four left shot defenseman now granted Sweeney's shown in the past. You can get creative with trades. You know, I mean a lot of these trades will come home. You're not going to see them coming. It's going to be guys like, oh, I didn't know that guy was available on the trade market, but the obvious ones that we see that you can tell and go. Oh gosh Geniuses makes sense here or oh Nate Schmidt for third round pick Ha Yar. Erik gudbranson are or Brandon Dylan early on I mean, I know he resigned Washington, but that was someone I think it would have been solid enough, you know placeholder home, but there's not an app. There's none of that and you just wonder you know, I get it is fair to question their judgment. I mean squeezing and killed by Bruins fans with people. I mean people are pissed, you know, and that's my brother's friends are the best is they they demand Excellence, you know, Celtics fans have always been kind of criticized for you know being complacent with dead. You know a second place team in the east go on to the second round doing some flashy slam dunks, but not winning anything Bruce fans, like no fuck you win. So in sweeties even said that, you know, that's why I asked to buy a beer if they if you win and they'll kill you if you lose so but it feels like right now they are kind of losing in this off season. And unless they make some big move. I mean you just you get the feeling that we're going to show up for training camp in god-knows-what on Christmas day. Yeah, she'll portray to give Christmas day and this would be the same lineup rolled out same cruel to be asking the same questions and they're going to be given the same answers internal competition this you know, this is we believe in this group. We're going to be like, oh my God is the exact same thing. It's so it's mind-numbing, but that is something you can bet on something you also can bet on. 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Nobody beats that I better bet u s and so should you to join us today? And don't forget type in Boston Sports journal to get up to a hundred foot home. Fifty percent bonus on your first deposit that's bet u s.com. So Pierre LeBrun just tweeted recently on the past few minutes. The agent for Brendan Gallagher says contract have broken off with the Habs Gallagher still has another year on his deal. So time for this time for this iron itself out but talks obviously not great great so far not to mention that I don't know how he goes to the Bruins. I don't know how that would work. But magic Marshawn a Gallagher on the same team. She's crazy stream player man that dude you were talking about 5 and 5 offense and getting shots on goal. That dude is that's for as much as you know, they may not have legitimate. You know, stop our that Top Line that Montreal has a friggin buzzsaw. Yeah. I mean, it's funny they lead they always were at the top and Coursey for percentage of like like a typical cloud cloud team just like the cloud team shirt the pocket than that. Yeah, exactly. But now that somewhere keep an eye on for he's a great player. It's funny Montreal. His in my lifetime has never had a number legit. Number one Center. That's part of the main reason why they don't have any real playoff success, but it feels like they're getting that now Philip to know Nick said hey, I'm definitely blanking out. Somebody else definitely is a third. Here's a third and I I'm forgetting who it is, but they're definitely I mean, I think there's they're growing suck up there and Montreal just gotta pay a little bit less equally So speaking of the Atlantic division Buffalo New York new home of Taylor Hall off as as the dust has settled on this cuz when it first happened, we all went what but it's the dust has settled on this. I think it's starting to be a little bit more clear why he chose Buffalo and white actually might be not a bad fit wage, maybe not for Success cuz I don't see how this Buffalo team makes the playoffs. I mean, I think they're just going to be a you know, scoring machine on that Top Line, but I mean Evan he said he wanted Dead. And so we have to factor that into its decision-making. So that's right. Imagine that I want to win. So I'm going to go to which by the way all of the Empire State. Yeah, by the way, like when they were good back in like the late 2000s. That was an electric place like oh, yeah. I mean I wasn't there but it seemed crazy like when they had like, you know, like Derek Roy and Chris Drury and Ryan Miller his prime. I mean that was like a fun team and they were electric to watch. I don't get the sense that sit Buffalo team even close. So but everyday life jacket on the top line, you know feel Jack a little bit of a hundred points Taylor, I'll put up like ninety, you know forty goals. So it's making more sense. He wants to kind of approve me that raises value don't know how he's going to do that with the flat cap. Buffalo find a way to pay them like 15 million dollars a year, but I still don't know what to make of this. It's still so weird cuz like divisions getting a lot better. But at the same time like are the Sabres that much better is just I mean they score more but I don't know if this winds them enough games to get into a playoff spot. No, it just means they're going to lose games 7 to 4 instead of you know, so yeah exactly. I mean listen like the logic is there for all to sign there. If you didn't get what he wanted on the market either from short-term deals with other teams, maybe you know, if the brakes were offered him anything maybe it was like a two or three a deal and he just wanted a one year one year contract somewhere. It was a three-year deal in like three and eight point three I think is what was, what was going on and what the ruins offered again? Who knows if that's what the case was but you know, it makes sense of who wants to go there, you know try to max out its value because he plays like as far as going to get forty goals. Five goals and eighty plus points. But again, I don't know how this cap is going to be working out next year that you need the revenue to be back to what it was before all this should happened and you're not going to have that happen this year. We're not going to have full Arenas going into next season. Right? Like it's just the the reality of the situation. So I don't know who is going to be flush with cash next year to take on Taylor Hall. If you think he's going to get nine plus million ten million on the market next year on a long-term deal. It's not what's going to happen. And I mean you'll next to it's going to be for once again considering that Vegas is somehow flush with cash and it hasn't really had to make too many painful decisions with their Rasta. So you got to Seattle coming in next year even with the expansion pack after going to get so many great players just cuz he's going to be so hamstrung with this cap being flat another year. They're going to get people who are going to be selling off guys for nothing for next year so long All going there for when you're dealing the lodge again. The logic is there but it doesn't really seem like that's not a decision when he could go somewhere else and win and be you know a number to God he wants to be the number one guy on a line. But if you know if he either sperm still isn't yeah like it's I don't understand like I thought I thought you wanted to win like you don't like you'll make your money but I mean, maybe I'm wrong. But you said you wanted to win don't you want to be competitive? Like don't you want to play in the postseason and you go to the Atlantic division where it'd be much like Chuck full of the top lightning Bruins Maple Leafs, you know that so you're not getting past them and I just like you can raise your value all you want but a flat cap Arab and you can't do it. You literally like can't do it. So I mean like I hope it works out for him I do but I just don't see I you know, it's funny and and a lot of people say this on Twitter the Bruins always tease you with these big free-agent guys Tavares Taylor Hall, you know, you think they're going to have a chance and then it gets the point where like in your head you like well, You know if Patrice Bergeron calls them and like gave it a cheese calls them and like, you know, Paul Peirce calls him they have a chance and you know, remember like what the John Tavares stuff like they met they meet with terrorists. They I think they they had a presentation with him. Right? So yeah, so everything like all the Brady, you know, they'll have you know forties they'll convince them and their life was like with the Kevin Durant stuff with the Celtics. They brought Brady like Kelly Olynyk to the hell. Yeah and like Marcus smiled and he said Kelly Atlantic walking is like Fuck this I'm going back to California. But so the Bruins kind of teased us with these and then it's like nope. I wonder when the big they're going to get that big free-agent cuz the biggest tree agencies have chora chori chora, but the biggest Regent they've had In Sweeney's time was Bacchus. I mean like biggest and contract name recognition like yeah, I mean at the time like we we think now like, oh my God, but the integrated contract didn't look good at the time. Like I yeah looking back you don't have it was a one-year deal people like oh, yeah. This is great move and Mackenzie throws like a firebomb in the in the mentions, you know, it's it's it's five years cuz that was when that was before my time covering the team that didn't issue a report as a one-year deal, right? Yeah, and then I thought that would be what he would sign if he was you know that age going into this marketing and the Bruins Friday would just let it go by anyway, so I think not not move was incredible to me and in the boleski one just like oh man, but I the Taylor Hall stuff it baffles me it does it. It's still does I I I'm trying to wrap my head around them. And it just makes sense but play with your boy ankle. So I will be happy for one year until Taylor Hall then yeah either signs up Thirty million dollar a year deal and dulling leaves, Buffalo or he goes some other like bootleg team and another year or two dailogue apparently doesn't want to be the go-to guy competing in the playoffs. You know, what he wants to go is next Market the Florida Panthers. Yeah, every irrelevant Market which NHL which probably for her to do cuz every year friggin Florida signs like fourteen different guys, like it's every time you hear them in the news. They're they're signing guys and see where I don't know how they have all this money and certainly they've put all of it with you know, guys, like, you know, Bobrovsky and stuff like that. But yeah, it's it's just walk if he's like like prioritize going to Buffalo and that's and all that contract over any other offers. It's a shame because I think we talked about this last week, but like it would have checked off a lot of boxes for the Bruins like you go. Go all in and getting a legitimate guy who's going to drive your five-on-five play compliment what you already have in a good signing with Smith and by getting galat Kam, you make a few of those other forward assets Expendable that we could trade the brush or one of these other guys to get a top-four d you replace him with Taylor Hall. Then you you you can get even afford to get rid of a few of these guys that brings you back a legitimate top-four defenseman. Now, you're you're you know, you can now you're the point now where if you want to sell me on your food court, you still got the top-line Craig Smith works out with coil and he's a twenty-plus goal scorer Andre Kasha has a full year and he breaks through and he just went Eagles score. You want to sell me on that fine. Like they're in a better spot than where to last year's was like we don't have anyone for krejci. Maybe Carson Coleman, you know, they are in a better spot than they were last year but still doesn't Inspire confidence for team. That should be going all-in and again, you've got this you know off All on your D cor now. That's I don't know how you're going to get it solved without giving a bass has to to bring in a guy. It's funny. I'm looking at the free agents of next offseason. And I'm going to predict how it's going to go. Ready. Alex ovechkin's a UFA somehow the Bruins are going to be in on him. Somehow. It's going to like they're going to be like room. They'll be rumors something to say he's going to go to the cage yell. Yes somewhat, but someone's going to get that the Bruins like offered him a contract and we're going to be like, oh shit, everybody get away. They could get Ovechkin and they'll go right back to Washington for like an absorber on money. But the real ones Cal Palmieri guarantee you that's the one we'd all sit here and go that's the move go get Kyle Palmieri sign him to a somewhat long-term, but not really that long term deal and has to be the obvious move and he'll go to like Buffalo Nashville or Buffalo or something like that where it's like, oh my God, but it is it's infuriating cuz it's like all these are obvious moves, but maybe that's why we're not General birth. Years, maybe we should be general managers after everything crashes and burns and they go. Oh we should listen to Connor INF marinoff. So Connor Before I Let You Go. What are you working on it to be SJ listeners can look forward with yeah. We're we're dropping story today kind of breaking down what would happen if the broom Sugo was a rovahkinai and jakub zboril next year which a lot of risk involved in that but we gave you examine how that could be a a router the Bruins do take this off season. And again, it seems like every day there's a new story dropping. I mean you had to fully sign on on Monday off in jello. She might getting traded all that on Monday. So who knows what each new day is going to hold? So we're going to have stuff every single day breaking down this offseason of how the Bruins are kind of navigating through this pretty hectic time of the year. So I have everything on Boston Sports channel. Subscribe there and you can follow me on Twitter at, Ryan. I'm just go in ninety-three. It's funny you mention mention the news breaking all the time. Is excited I always check my phone at 10 during these podcast cuz I'm always hoping that a big piece of news breaks while we're recordings. Oh, we're a breakdown we're here and we're like an air horn noise is going on in the background can add yeah. Yes. Yes 70 perfect, but it never happens. There's never a big move. There's ever anything say the biggest it was a pretty Gallagher. So who cares? Yeah, but today, right? This has been poked the bear episode 13 from Aronofsky Conor Ryan. You listeners have yourself a great rest of your day?

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"It's the doctor Bill Beagle show presented by nutraceutical dot com call eight eight eight eight six four zero one and welcome welcome back. We have the amazing Lowell Ponte here and of course remarkable excise exercises in <hes> journalistic <hes> reality checks the latest new reality is canvas three headed Democratic Party win local start with your analysis of what's going on. It's pretty remarkable isn't it. I mean <hes> this could be funny if it wasn't the body count because if the left has got control which they did by the way because the media and the Mueller dossier was dragged out inappropriately to destroy right and take away the house from the Republicans could get things done we have situation now where even forty percent of Democrats still support the idea that trump has created a felony and should it'd be impeached. These people are delusional. They belong in psychiatric institutions. They are believing the lying news media. Despite the fact that Mueller Gate has over in the in the presentation of Biller himself was like elder abuse I mean he didn't even know parts of his own. So called reported had his name on it because he didn't write it. So where do you think this is going. We've got an amazing analysis here today. Please tell us what what it means YEP DA. Oh He's not there. Okay well we will. We will get him shortly. Usually he's right on the spot so I'm not so. I'm very surprised that he's not there. Let me start reading some of the report here. A Little Ponti will the Democrats <hes> gathering this week for the Second Presidential Debate New York Times Pundit Thomas A. B. Edsall observes that the Democratic Party is actually three parties the different our constituents in prefer different policies satisfying them all will not be easy won't won't be not on easy. They'RE GONNA fail and lose the election and actually lose the House that that's what I think I describe this medically Democratic Party has one body and three heads possessed by three contradictory personalities what liberal Edsall could not bear to admit that the Democrats multiple personalities create an internal contradiction that could be fatal the party's victory in two thousand twenty and beyond in other words. They're likely to be destroyed for multiple elections until they'd reforms internally stopping Uber Leftist Communist which what they are. Let's stop talking. Socialism is communism totalitarianism. We see Bernie Sanders who that is his <hes> his <hes> honeymoon in Soviet Russia. You have to understand there's a communist. These people believe in totalitarian top down control. They WANNA force vaccinate. You control what health care doctor you see what treatments you get whether you're put to death. If you're too expensive the state to take care of you period. That's IT I saw it in Canada. All Social Stage deteriorate revolted ultimately totalitarian control and I call embalming care where they kill you okay. You may not believe it whether it's good intentions of the start it's not good intentions into totalitarian control and take away insurance from one hundred eight hundred ninety million. Americans that have at least some degree of autonomy is not a good thing and even most of the Labour party's aren't going to agree to it. Okay we've got. We've got lower here than the lowest start with your article. What's your analysis. What's going on here. Well you mean my three three headed Democratic Party analysis. Yes yes because I I've been. I was persuaded to put out one following it. I guess I forgot forgot to send it to you. <hes> based on my book from four years ago we have seen the future and it looks like Baltimore which is remarkable but anyway the Democrat on Baltimore's an example of and they keep on saying his four hundred years of of structural racism knows not they. There's so much corruption. Eh the billions of dollars spent has not improved the education of the blacks or people of color. It's not improve the infrastructure of the cost of homes and foods. It hasn't stopped the gross rats just like in L._A.. Where they have Democrat every place that they touch a guy called the anti MIDAS touch it turns to you know black death. I mean that's what we have down in L._A.. If we have the black death returning from the Middle Ages because of the filth of the Democrats when they take over any territory they destroyed it. They destroyed you yeah politically and otherwise it's amazing. Isn't it the black death and typhus which was probably the plague that destroyed Athens in its rate with Sparta <hes> so so yes we're not we're not just getting third world disease as we're actually getting medieval diseases that we thought were conquered even in the Third World Yeah and that is because <hes> what do you have a city governed by one party the Democratic Party <hes> for sixty seventy eighty years. You wind up up with <hes> democracy in other words. You have a little sweater for them. Each a little rights call them. Democrats rats. They're not regular American rats. They're Democrats that's great but of course they don't really believe in democracy. When you have one party rule I mean the the beauty of a two party system is each party can check the corruption of the other can watch report it attack politically and so on <hes> but in Baltimore. There's nobody to attack <hes>. Democrat corruption because the Democrats rule everything. I think it was part of the problem is the Republicans have thought they can't voice our opinions to people of other groups and therefore they've abandoned it so I think part of the problem is the abandonment of the Republicans organs and part of that is the Republicans thought well. We can't win which I don't think is true. Now trump was taken the attitude to the mid to many states that hey I can win. I'm GonNa make your life better. I I don't care if you're black or Hispanic. Whatever I'm GonNa make you be able to get jobs. I'M GONNA return in manufacturing which by the way Obama stated he couldn't return manufacturing because he's a total blithering idiot and he actually trying to make America a post colonial nation. I mean he was trying to destroy America he more than he accumulated more debt than all previous presidents in American American history and of course the same problems persisting now because we're not fixing infrastructure during the underlying real economy and we can thank Barack Obama for a and and the demon rats and the growing burgeoning explosive government because of the Demon Rats and control they only twelve cents or dollar goes through the poor or the people that needed it goes to expand government and give more benefits to government employees and bloated corrupt <hes> agencies and corporations that are benefitting benefitting from people that are government contracts. It's disgusting. What are you can start with. The assumption that anything Democrat says is a lie. The only question then is to figure out why and how it's a lie for example is I think we've mentioned Michaud. <hes> Democrats are out ranting and raving for a fifteen dollars minimum wage even though their own congressional budget office has told them that would cost three point seven million jobs potentially in America if you raise the minimum wage that high again threat but you see the Democrats don't care because those are just the jobs of little kids learn at their first job at McDonald's screw with what matters to the Democrats is if you can force up the minimum wage age by using those kids who are about to be fired <hes> every major union it would kick back money to the Democratic Party escalator clauses in their contracts so if the minimum wage is doubled the fifteen dollars an hour then there's a seven fifty raise in every union union contract automatically people don't understand that so in other words it's to make the union's richer so they have more money to kick back to the Democratic Party. They don't give a damn about poor working people. Those people are going to be fired the result of what they're doing just making money for themselves by around about kind kind of money laundering corruption in the government. That's make it more affordable for the Democratic Party solution to make life more affordable for the lower middle-class okay number one in California. The cost of Housing Unit condos double because regulations in the state. It's ridiculous. It's run by Democrats number. Two food is actually made in fact California farms cost lesson Arizona or Nevada and it does California even when farms were like within miles of where I live where there's strawberry fields and all and so on here in Vista. That's obscene. Why are they getting away with that number three. We need to have regulation so that the cost of actually building housing housing is less expensive and we need to have some kind of you know control system so that people can afford and then I personally think that we should have a system where we rate every district and so on once we've done all these other things and determine what he living wages and if someone has a job we don't force the employer to do it. We can. I have something some other system of making sure that there's a source of revenue to comes back doesn't hurt small business medium business because if you do you're going to reduce the number of jobs available and you're going to actually destroy a lot of businesses which are seventy eight percent of the business in America smaller medium. They're not large corporations large corporations making minority of the business in America. Don't they probably yes so. I think that what we need to do is we need to start looking at regulatory control for example. All these areas where the cities are unlivable. All Democratic cities aren't they. I can't think of one cer- Republican city that is unlimited for example the Democrats Tim Debate. The second debate began last night <hes> one participant. I think that <hes> that occultist miss this. Williams <hes> she was saying Oh. Well look what we've done to flint Michigan forgetting for the moment. That flint is entirely early. Democrat controlled the Republicans have nothing to do with Flint Michigan. Whatever he's Delusional Democrats ruined the drinking water. They're actually purposely dumped toxins in their drinking water reservoir their food. They're basically water area and then they act like oh well. How does this have no wasn't the Republicans. The Republicans would be more rational were they would put it and of course they. If you go to every city for example you look in taxes you you can get twenty five hundred foot square foot home with three or four bedrooms <hes> on with Dole land in yard. Maybe even a pool and here you can barely get a thousand square where foot condo saying outside San Francisco if you've got a tech job it's obscene what's going on here. They wonder why we have homeless now. Of course we have three other reasons. There's Downer routers. The basically have lost their job. We need to have a place where we can give the money to churches or allow them to know in donation. Soldiers can have how shelters we can build them and build them in areas where they're not going to you know cause problems and number two we need to get people are mentally ill to mental institutions whether it's homes where they can be taken care of on day homes and people drug acts. Don't give them needle exchange put them in a drug Rehab. They should be seized and grabbed by people with little ambulances it says and pulled off the drug rehab they should not have autonomy to continue using needles leaving their open needles in their blood and their fecal matter all over the place so rats can grow aw we wonder why wonderful thing about your show. Dr Bill that you you you teach people to think thank you teach people to look for the questions and issues that are not being asked or discussed this matter. Does it matter in the debate last last night for example just to you some quick examples the Jeff Zucker the head of C._N._N.. Who put on the debate has done fundraisers for Kamala Harris. He runs the news channel but he's biased in favor of one particular candidate. Can they really be fair in any sense. Does it matter that more the minutes were given last night to Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders than any other candidates and yet some candidates up there they would speak for ten or twelve seconds in the moderator would already be told yelling. Your time is up and slams the gavel on I mean it was just embarrassing. Embarrassing what I find interesting. Maybe my memory is faulty but what I looked at was a totally segregated debate that you see a single handle. Democrat of color on stage Tuesday night in the first of their sex states warren as a native American. No you didn't you didn't hear a single mention of impeaching Donald Trump or of the muller investigation which is occupied us for the last. What two and a half years and yet or nearly two years I should say but <HES> intriguingly <hes> Muller <hes> I mean it's it's so surreal I can't even bear to think about it <hes> but it's as if they have just changed just overnight as Michael Good one of the New York Post put it from shouting for two years <hes> Russia Russia Russia and instantly on a dime dime they've turned and now all they shout his racist racist? Racist Russia is virtually forgotten now. Everything is the evil of Donald Trump for being a racist and yet in my column I explain the different analysts who have looked into the question of racism at places like the Atlantic magazine. You know how a racist is defined nowadays by the left it is defined as any white person who criticises in any way whatever a black person or other person of color in other words. It's disagree ramp to disagree with with a person of color is a racist act. Now isn't that the the most appalling act of racism. You can think of well. 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Oh we need to do to consider that as read some of what their own on liberal pundits say for example New York Times writer Thomas Edsall served that the Democratic Party is today actually three different political parties as far are left party made up mostly of whites it is a <hes> centrist left party made up of all kinds of odd odd bits and pieces and it is a moderate party believe it or not a party that believes in things like cutting taxes and creating jobs. That's his focus because now here's what edsel observes about this. The Democratic Party's quote more moderate wing which is pressing bread and butter concerns like jobs taxes they less total is invasion of healthcare reform is majority non white with almost half of its support coming from African American and Hispanic Banik voters close quote in other words. The moderates in the Democratic Party are the people of Color people who actually are the bosses running being the party you notice last night's debate was segregated entirely white holes that ever that's Kinda bizarre when you look at Bernie Sanders Claus that's why should have Santa Head on time and Elizabeth Warren both of them. Why does anything and both the native American she's? He's not listening yeah. I've got some Mick box more native American than than she is. She's a fool and a liar and she's got but when they put they also don't point out is one one one thousand and twenty fourth native American but it was native American from South American genetic strains not North American tune that extremes so she's not even a North American native American <hes> one thousands part she always she her ancestry came from around Columbia to the extent that she has any at all so I mean the deception is and yet she was is trying to pretend she was still a native American who made her angry out to choose yelling and she's got this angry. I'm thinking same with Birdie Verdy. He puts on at least like Mr Potato was angry is on according to his war-time anyone else on the stage last night. Why is it the other people to give her more time? Why is that? Why did they give her more time? Why is Elizabeth Warren such e icon of the people that are in control of the party already? Oh She's one of the front runners since she's adopted this new stance of saying there's really no distance between her and Bernie Sanders Sanders but they're really like in other words he pictures Bernie sinking through the floor and when he does she wants to be there to pick up his voters automatically clearly I I don't see any difference in terms of social communism and totalitarian control to them. Both of them want to put up a bill to America Erica two hundred trillion dollars and they don't WanNa control cost saying we're going to get rid of trial lawyers drive up about practice. WE'RE NOT GONNA WE'RE GONNA control drug. Company prices like trump just did this week with this new commission things for the health and Human Services we don't we're not gonNA have to understand when Elizabeth Warren and I call them on this. Several we go right. Wouldn't you say so. She is a capitalist. She could technically be telling the truth but what you have to understand is she doesn't mean a free market capitalist. She doesn't mean laissez faire capitalism. She means what in Europe is called deras yeast capitalism kind of capitalism they practice in France during during their authoritarian there is used capitalism basically means that business and government our partners and the government is the senior partner until so the gover- it basically it's a it's another way of saying fascist seemed for an authoritarian kind of capitalism that has nothing to do with American Free Enterprise see American Free Enterprise what credit the engine of the world which is America with with four percents of world population and the engine of the world's economy enemy and the fact is that the Democrats took over the economy crash and burn the starvation in the streets. It'd be violence like crazy. There'll be civil war actually because it tried to take guns and it'll be dead in the streets he was oh no that wouldn't happen. I said I can guarantee it. The civil war we had the first one will be a pale by comparison to the second civil war or it may have swallow. Well tried to get her guns especially as the country deteriorates into starvation and people are innovative would have home gardens and and Bernard other things to try to survive the disaster. The governments made look a Baltimore Baltimore is America wouldn't a Baltimore is in America. Let us never ever forget that in the American revolution that shot heard around the world concord or was it Lexington where the <hes> be patriots create stood against the British forces parched inland the British forces were on a mission to seize the stores of gun powder and shot that the colonials O'Neil's hit stored. That's what they were. After in other words it was a gun control mission and that's what the colonials were resisting and what the British then found themselves facing making the twenty five miles back to Boston was that the colonials didn't have easily reloaded muskets the way the British fish did but they had hunting long rifles they could kill a squirrel at a hundred and fifty two hundred yards <hes> and and that meant they could shoot from behind rocks and trees and so on Tomorrow you have to understand at the start of Baltimore and I'll have a piece out on this tomorrow so this is in advance of it. I remember Craig Smith and I four years ago. Wrote wrote a book called. We have seen the future and it looks like Baltimore early. Eighteen hundreds Baltimore was the Silicon Valley of the United States. It was prosperous vibrant an amazing center of Invention <hes> it was the second most desired place where immigrants grants from Europe would want to go there most popular destination if they couldn't go to New York they wanted to go to Baltimore it had ample jobs and it it had these amazing inventions like the first great railroad in America the Baltimore and Ohio like the amazing new electronic communications technology that that ran beside the Railroad Tracks Telegraph horse that was first set up in operated in Baltimore so it it was a fabulous city then came the civil war during the Civil War Baltimore became a massive supplier or a government contract goods to fight the war and after the war as people began moving farther and farther West left Baltimore behind it just became Amo city devoted to living on government contracts. It's only forty miles from Washington D._C.. So it's virtually just a suburb in real terms and it became a captive Washington D._c.. Of course with the government contracts came government partisanship came political games who would get the contract act and who wouldn't and gradually about turned into an entirely corrupt political machine in Baltimore about sixty years ago <hes> there was a mayor the Italian American boss Machine Mayor of Baltimore Big Tommy Allesandro on-drove who's kick in life was to take his eight year old daughter and have her talk to favor seekers on the telephone saying things. It's like what you want to building contracts from US or a building permit well. Here's what you have to do for us that <hes> that little girl was named Nancy See Ansi Della Sandra now known as Nancy Pelosi who learned all her thoughts politics at the knee of her mayor of Baltimore Tomorrow Father He learnt she learned progressive machine politics where you just bully intimidate and beat down here opponents opponents in other words politics is war to Nancy Pelosi is she's often said and he's trying indeed to take those kinds of politics nationwide nationwide of course the Italian Americans have since been replaced by African Americans <hes> as the city has gone from a million people down do about six hundred thousand people it half of them on government welfare of one kind or another and you just basically have a mess yes in in huge portions of Baltimore. The rats are running amok fattening and reading horrid on all the garbage that is dumped on the street eight <hes> it is arguably the murder capital of the United States per capita. It is the heroine capital of the United States per capita is in that famous famous TV series of the wire. That was an amazing series wasn't it but it shows you what politics is really like there. In Twenty fifteen they had rioting in the wake of the death of a drug pusher Freddie Gray in police custody right. They blame the policemen even now two of them were people of Color. Even Freddie Gray was <hes> the police were found innocent in the riots that ensued more than two eight hundred police were injured by thrown stones bottles and the like <hes> every pharmacy in that region of town was seized <hes> or was was looted. Every liquor store was stripped bare. <hes> Elijah Cummings the twenty six year Congressman from Baltimore Baltimore <hes> was watched on television cameras as he just stood nonchalantly ten feet away from the liquor store there was being looted and he did it absolutely nothing to stop it but then that was the attitude of the Democrats these were his constituents who are doing the looting so he wasn't going to object in the wake of that basically the Mayor Stephanie Rawlings Blake <hes> who had just basically given orders to the police don't resist. Don't try to arrest the looters. Don't do anything to stop them. Let the city burn was what she in effect said. She told the press that her message was we also gave those who wished to destroy the space to do that as well and we work very hard to keep that balance and that's what a progressive city is like and you notice many American cities have started to imitate it the rat swarming over Los Los Angeles the crime simply being allowed to run amok in many American cities like well I if we had the weapon of indignation and knock on the power of the first cities to die. Why would these big democratic cities? They have cannibalism not just the rats but people it would be unbelievable. Well well this. I I remember long long ago when I was think. Take futurist being involved in one of the nest studies <hes> Ness with the national entity survival studies which is to say how how would you target nuclear weapons on another nation taff maximum effect and and the answer is he would destroy their national entity <hes> there is something that gives every society a sense of cohesion that we are together. We are one the people and so on in the then then then they decided they would test ness technologies aiming it back at the United States and ask how it is an enemy target us they would target us by leaving not killing a maximum number of people with nuclear weapons they would leave a maximum number of people alive they would simply tried to decapitate the leaders who could provide coherence to the country because in Los Angeles for example. What do you have you have millions and millions of people who have never known the stuff not to go down flush the toilet never known water not to be there when they turned on the tap tap never learned to sleep in the dark without a night light? <hes> never known the neighbor who lived only four doors away but you knew we had a gun <hes> I mean this is a known that Los Angeles has the latest policing of any major city in the United States. Maybe in the world world but when I say late policing I mean they have about eleven hundred police for every one hundred thousand people what that means beans is and they have more in New York but it's mainly because of their skyscrapers they have to put a certain number of police in a skyscraper to protect it but but in Los Angeles everything is based on mobility of the police their ability to get ten miles down the road in six and seven seven minutes and that cannot easily be done if for example you shut down for water the electricity and the gas also shut down the roadway the roads just become parking exactly we'll be right back with Bombay analysis read this article amazing. Are you still looking for that one iodine iodine that you can really trust a medical doctor endorsed product that is backed by honest research and true integrity of science then search no further go to neutral medical co Dot Com for Dr Build Eagles. 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It's only the <hes> literally the left us at the the Leadership they fired and under enough pressure given that <hes> after all democrats depend utterly on minority voters same if they had to depend on white voters would barely qualify as a third party. That's less a second party. I mean Democrats repudiated white people bull <hes> what two campaigns ago and have ever since under Barack Obama and so they are party dependent on minorities and yet they give minorities no power. Oh by the way this of course is Dr Bill Eagles Neutra medical report so we always have some medical item for the <music> sounds good Pan Japan has now legalized the creation of animal human hybrids developed in Japan. The government has lifted penalties against doing that and so they are now going ahead to create kind of half human half rat or mouse creatures. We're back to the Democrats. Aren't we just throw that in and one of the things that I think they're trying to do and this by the way is happening in a cult areas even in their own military is to create genetically hybridization. What is things things that I was exposed to as Darpa forty one years ago they're going to insert acting mizen from jackals into female fetuses to make them twelve times stronger than normal humans and other gene complexes by the crisper pastime protocol to create female fetuses will become a swimmer cyborg super soldiers with a non liquid nitrogen engine cooled magnetron ick helmet to hack into their cortex with bidirectional control of thought sight hearing etc and to create an already swarmed just like a swarm of killer bees piece of of learning drawn connected and weapons connected the super human <hes> killers covered by nanotech tech body armor and able to control weapons by thought people don't realize what's going on here and Stanley Hollywood is going right along with this? The New James Famous bond is female. A lot of the new superheroes are female. <hes> it says if males have just become obsolete for that kind of function Asian well let me explain the the rational told me back years ago and I thought they were not which they are is that males because of testosterone more like it'd be independent therefore would not follow follow orders and a direct command and so they thought they would have a female warriors who by the way if you're a good upgrade they're they're earn their basically their muscular structure so that have acting Mason of jackals to be twelve times stronger their idea was we want to create a female that could be one hundred forty pounds and can carry a three hundred pound around backpack brunt fifty miles an hour jump fifty feet and it would have nanotech body armor and could move fast enough they could rip your heart out of your chest while still beating and recover nanotech body armor and fire Florence's never save an Eagle reflexes of Jaguar and twelve times the strength of normal human so ahead of the U._S.. Female Talker team this Rappeneau only on significantly genetically operated and people say well. They can't do that. Look if I went outside to go to the dark side stopping in retirement I can go to genetic engineering because they have lots of skill sets <hes>. This is a really simple thing to do. It's not complex and that's why we see the Japanese talking. Our military has been doing this for ages in fact <hes> the general poindexter actually destroyed in the late nineties and entire team of genetically operated military officers offers in fact. I took care one of them and his buddies. I took vows their personal doctor. After joining the operating in this one man twenty nine put out six and a half inches in height eight hundred pounds of body mass after being genetically operated back over twenty five years ago so if you think this is something new. You're an idiot okay. This is going on yeah but what's interesting is the public is gaining an awareness realize prepared for this to be the new reality by the way hey we just had this woman who <hes> had worked for Amazon Computer Services and and now was involved in stealing vast asked amounts of records from capital one credit card was it to you may have stolen stuff from other credit cards to what's interesting is she. She is transsexual. I just threw up that in as a little aside for what happens when you bring male and female hormones together in in new ways well. I think the other thing is you're not getting normal trans. These people are off taking enough hormones. It's like some of the guys is it takes so much hormones or if they're working in the oil and gas industry that toxic chemicals act like a male hormone analog you end up with super males and so the actually actually hormones Dr d of rage control centers of the mcdonagh and the Ridge Control Center of the brain and these are not even normal males. They're super aggressive. Beings being's GONNA decide their sex. It doesn't matter what you start off with. Even if the initial templates female you drive hormones this high and they're going to get expressive behavior of the rage control centers and we call the REPTILIAN brain. That's actually what we were taught back in medical school forty six years ago the reptilian brain is driven by high levels of hormones. Can you become more aggressive. That's the nature of the beast we have layers of behavior suppressed by higher quarter cle activities special frontal lobe and when you're basil centers there's your up Gillian Raine takes control you become an aggressive beast you add that to the fact that the <hes> founder of Tesla and so on wants want to interface human and computer brains. We really are creating new species. Aren't we well. There aren't any the process in fact. Here's the thing that just put up an article the other day. Hey you know can rich by genes of course and what you're going to see in the future is what's called almost like the the caste system in India where people are in different castes based on genetic operates to their progeny or sub UNEDIC attachments to advanced technologies such as the Supernet Mansion. Someone can download language skill the Laura Technical Skill in a matter of minutes hours or has genetically <hes> operated their genetic so that they can live for centuries where physical involved all that in fact is like a whole section of our Book Money Morality in the Machine Craig Smith and I wrote about how the science fiction stories whether it's brave new world caste system and its drug control or some of the newer technologies that we see on science fiction movies now such as <hes> Oh the matrix all of that is coming to pass by by the way if you'd like a copy of this book absolutely free and postpaid seductive bill listener you can get one just by calling toll free eight hundred six three zero fourteen ninety two. We'll pay the postage and everything will not cost you a penny morality in the machine and if you're nice nice to the publisher they might even also send you a copy. We have seen the future and it looks like Baltimore. Just by this hundred six three zero fourteen ninety ninety two I like <hes> you know the new world order. I've actually changed it to the now world order. The New Order of the world and the new order of the world is now a lot of people think it's always in the distant future. No one's not it's been happening for decades and it's coming to its final fruit of combination and people don't. They're not ready for how quickly it's GonNa come for example. I think three or four years ago cell phone company said the next cell phones generations are going to promote or going to hack into cortex here. Your child will be able to play Gimondi by going a holiday by direct attachment and they'll actually be in cyberspace intellectually in visually in cyberspace even though putting on one of these helmets we everything to interface invasive dries. It'll be direct <unk> interface. That's scary isn't it. Oh it is now is Loren Eisley the great anthropological paleontologists just put it <hes> we have to realize that evolution doesn't leap it creeps that is as we walked down the street today. You're going to be walking past people who who essentially are still neanderthals and you're walking past people like Dr Bill who are where the human race could be fifty thousand years from now. Let's put it this way and I made the statement very intelligent yourself. When it has my I Q so far about two hundred grade nine? They could measure now. I have both intellectual and spiritual gifts yes that everybody has a nascent form but with the Cape without a SPANDEX suit and I can't fly at the speed of light I am superman now. I know all my sons are in the super intelligent and I know the my daughter would downside room is a super high functioning Down Syndrome girl twenty six and a half the operates a computer rifling riot pad <hes> she can swim like a fish. I mean it's amazing the things you can do and we were asked you to read. She can read you can do almost anything what people understand is. Those things can be trained. We can also use supplements approved people's I._Q.. For example or cognition plus brainpower we can protect you from the toxic effects of our toxic mineralized food and environment. That's destroying biology and by the way the globalist wanted destroy your biology. We're seeing a contraction human. Life Span contraction of human an I._Q.. Infertility we're seeing drop in the I._Q.. Of the population caused by toxic environment and we're now having the United Nations try to push sixty three genders one sex. This is insanity but it's all by designed by these globalist maniacs what I learned to have this merged with technology. Isn't it and people say the the my my greatest grief is it's not the people listen to me is that people don't ask better questions because you don't you shouldn't seek seek the answer. You should have seek a better question because it's the answers to every anomaly and every paradox are learning slapping in the face like a two by four hitting your forehead ahead but people don't want to face that and the aspect of questions you'd have to change their world view and the solutions are all right in front of us for example one of the things I said repeatedly and my show whether it's a medical medical problem a joe political or whatever and this is what you do your book with Greg's best. Every issue has a logical commonsense solution and every problem and if you have a clue what you and I do. There's no such thing as a problem. That isn't solvable whether it's a safety net for health care or life extension attention or taxing world has better carrying capacity or Tokamak fusion energy or stabilizing years from now incoming asteroids smart meter past years a few few days ago. There is a solution everything and people's at all no there isn't I said well ask me. You know what I find. Almost no one asked me any questions. Can I'd like to ask one question before you go. Ask Me tough question on anything that you think no human being has ever tried to answer in the past go ahead. No Rehearsal uh-huh okay where where is human evolution headed. Are we going to become <hes> what today we would call Gods or not. I know where it's going. I see the plan by the globalist. Emerging Technologies can end with a disaster but there's GonNa be a remnant of the human human race so it's going to become the bride to the most High God because as prophesied in the Bible and we are going to be coequal the creator as as the bride of God as Tryon's in quadrant of human spread and colonize the galaxy and the cosmos and literally have the spirit of the Creator God in so we can only do good because we do God and we actually he is board and what an interesting experiment this is always the intention of God is to have a bride literally through the everlasting world that he's created and in fact <hes> the there's more galaxies in the universe in grains of sand and every beach and God wants us to be the one that brings order into the everlasting which is a place of time space because we're got is is there is no passenger future but the the attempt by the human race by people like Elon Musk and saw emerged with technology is disaster. Remember a portion of what we are human is not only an consciousness beyond time space but also we have a portion of the eternal which has got. There's a friend as well. The assumption is human beings have more curiosity than they have the wisdom to know what to do with what they find in front of them. If we want to positively maybe they just like to engage in evil but <hes> in any event if humans are moving in the direction of becoming some kind of future deity or bride of a deity we're GonNa then beyond live fusion with technology and the evil of genetically upgrading human race to live long time in a hellish world by the Matrix that's what they want to build but but God's GonNa cut them short and they will cut them social because the rapture is not a raptor of taking good out to go to heaven. It's taking evil Oh to goodwill survive and thrive. That's why the the days of going to be cut short for those things that are going to do things

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Bruins Should Sign Ilya Kovalchuk & Other Moves Bruins Must Make | Conor Ryan | Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky

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Bruins Should Sign Ilya Kovalchuk & Other Moves Bruins Must Make | Conor Ryan | Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky

"This is October 27th. And this is the Bruins beat on clns media. And welcome back to the Bruins beat on Ceylon s media. My name is Evan marinacci. Hope you guys are having a great safe and healthy week. Obviously, it's almost the end of October. It's almost November and I won't say I will not say what we would typically be doing what we typically might be talking about. I won't say it. I will not say it. I just won't say it not going to suck but as you guys know obviously right now as things are currently constructed. There's not a lot of Bruins news to cover. It's not a lot of things to talk about. So I had on Conor Ryan this week of Boston Sports journal and we judge just who are The Bruins could still potentially get out there and there's actually not some there's some pretty good names are they Taylor Hall or they Alex pietrangelo or they even Torey Krug know they are not but they're still helpful in could still make a difference. So we discussed that in this episode and we also got into some goofy stuff. There's also a thing that we talked about with NHL twenty one that we might try to get people involved in if we can so obviously stay keep your ears perked up for that wage. You like to plan a child twenty one like we do before we get into the episode The Wait is finally over football is back. You might not be at a game this year, but you can still be in on the action at that online and let us go the extra mile to make sure you bring it on everything imaginable to season from game spreads and totals to team player and Coach & Crab Spot in line and gives you more options to wager than any place online. You can get in on their season-opening bonuses today and start off of wagering on win a championship Futures today head to bed online today and take advantage of all the great sign up bonus has been online your online Sportsbook expert. So without further Ado, here's my conversation with Conor Ryan off and we're here with Conor Ryan Conor. What is up but much man, what's going on with you? I'm not much try to survive during these covid-19 you were saying before we started recording that there's a spike in Massachusetts here in in the base state is a little bit of a spike in cases dead. Um and great. Yeah not great. Not the not the best thing in the world. They shut down hockey recently. They shut down ranks at least which is unfortunate to see you don't want you don't want that to happen often wants that to happen the NHL sort of keeps moving the goalposts back. You can tell January 1st might not be the date know and was even worse and Steve bucknor about this in the app like today or or Sunday or Monday, whatever it was when he wrote it, you know, all we have right now boss has the Patriots nobody else, you know, the snow off Red Sox. No Bruins. Nope. And so all we have in Boston is the Patriots and that's sucks. Not only shouldn't be a pretty arduous couple of months for multiple reasons, but especially in terms of the sports landscape cuz not like we're also in a great stretch here with the off season where it's going to be a lot of riveting news every we're going to I think we're going to be scratching for the bottom of the barrel next couple of weeks. Yeah dead. Oh, yes. We are going to be just as you said the barrel or going to be scraping the bottom of that thing trying to find content cuz it's funny. We've been kind of spoiled the past month has been a ton of free agency trades the draft and now it's like, oh we're back to the off-season. We're back to nothing and typically, you know would be in the beginning of the season right here, but wage Soviet, that's we don't we don't have that right now, which is unfortunate because we could use some distractions right now. We could really really use some distractions right now. But God there is still stuff to cover there is Bruins things to talk about from the perspective of what they should do. Cuz again, they have a little over six million in cap. They still have to re-sign Jake debrusk off and they still have a little bit of wiggle room there still some things they could do and the moves I think we'll talk about today are ones that they can absolutely make With the cap space they have I don't think these would be issues. I don't think this constrain them cap wise especially in this market. So I think it was either on this or poke the bear that I mentioned in a specific name that I am so in for and what's funny is I was very against this when this name first came up and this man went to a Canadian team. I'm really doing a great job of not saying who this person is about to say. Yeah, and you were also very against this person. We were all like, oh my God this guy get a lot of this guy in my life, but Ilya Kovalchuk a veteran-minimum deal for 725 K maybe eight hundred something K. I don't think you're going over a million with a Leah classic ilian not going over a million with him. What do you think of this? Cuz I'm starting to grow on me. Yeah. I mean, I think you have to be realistic at this point of what the Bruins are able to do. So, I mean if we look at kind of the order of what things do this offseason obviously number one is shake the bras but soon as you find out what you're going to do is Daniel Char and after that it's like, all right, I think probably the number one priority is probably upgrading your blue line. I don't really know how you're going to do that right like and once you're doing a trade or something like that has anyone left on the fridge and Market that you know, you're going to sign and be like, all right, that's we're replacing to recruit with that guy and not feel like oh oh shit. This is my like, we'll see how this goes. Right? It's not like a guy who's going to be walked in to a top-four spot. So I think when you look at, you know, a guy like Kovalchuk and you know, you can look at the way the this forward course kind of setup and if you want to pay off, Me that once Martian and pasta market healthy, which you have to wait a little bit for that. Yeah, you could pitch to me that that group where you add a guy like Kasha who should be healthy and have a full training and a guy like Craig Smith that this phone call or be much better next year of all works out. But still if you have a chance to add a guy like Kovalchuk for a minimum a league minimum deal, which box is free. You know, it's pretty realistic this given how this Market is. I mean, you've had multiple guys taking much less in terms of term or average annual value already if this you know Fraser might get stretches into Thursday November in these guys still don't have anywhere to sign like you're going to see a lot of these guys who maybe could have made 1 and 1/2 to 2 and 1/2 million are taking you know, really really long tails just to get on a team this year. And so I think for the Bruins if you know, obviously the guy people are focusing on now is Mike Hoffman, which yeah, it's my coffin, you know, his contract drops down towards a one-year job. Ellen he's willing to sign for 3 million or something. We get to that low then yeah, of course, but I still think you still have teams like Nashville with need scoring team the Columbus and eat squash. You have a good amount of cap room left to play with it. They could probably hand out, you know five million or so. I think they're probably just waiting to the price to drop too. So I think if you're looking for the Bruins it just finding another piece or so to get to that Nick's up front doesn't really hurt you to you know, explore a guy like Kovalchuk and if he fits and it's great you paying you're you know, you're getting any guy who can get you Thirty Something points, maybe around them for a cheap deal like that. And if it doesn't work out then screw it is that you're not really spending that much money on the guy. So I think it's a pretty prudent move for the Bruins for throughout this offseason. They're just looking at a guy like him or through these other guys that are willing to sign, you know, one year deals. Just pretty much you know, a lot of these friends just looking for like a life raft at this point, right? Like this might get is so ass-backwards that wage. I just trying to find a place to land to bump the value back up. And you know, if it's a guy like Kovalchuk ooh again, as you said, I don't think we were particularly high on him especially after his time in LA but home show that he could play well, you know in a higher up roll with Canadians, but then even with Washington during the regular season at least using more of a third line role and looked pretty good they're so if he's available cheap doesn't really hurt yet to add a Galaxy into the mix, right? It doesn't and also you mean, you know Marshawn a possible I could probably missing the start of the Season especially pastrnak home. And if you can have more guys to potentially put with a guy like Patrice Bergeron, I mean Kovalchuk makes sense up there for a temporary time and then have them move around, you know, maybe you just create you second line right winger, maybe, you know, maybe all your comments works for the answer of time. Maybe he threw him on the 3rd line or or something along those that sort. So to me I don't see that the the like the the real downside to Kovalchuk because yep. Not pay you wouldn't be paying him a lot. It's like you're signing this guy to a four-year, you know, four million dollar deal for a million per your it would be league minimum for no more than probably a year. So you know off again, as you said they want life rafts and you mentioned my coffin and we both said this last week they get to the appoint the offseason where there's you know, these guys have nothing they need a team to play for it's time to sign off somewhere at least for a year. So as we know this really isn't the off season four guys outside of the top four free agents getting long-term deals. I mean, yeah, I've had a pietrangelo and Torey Krug there hasn't been a yeah super long deals. I can get Jacob markstrom a little bit but even like crazy you could make the a green right that I think people thought he was going to get hate and then he gets what he got to like even though it's going to ask. Yeah. I mean to fully look at him to thank you is probably a 6 million year guy maybe in a regular market. So I mean, it's funny you look back at like those signs of ruins made with coil and Wagner and those guys off. Do you like doing backflips like a sign it back when they did cuz it just this whole Market, you know for guys who are honestly are deserving of what the market was before now have to take these concessions where you know fair or not. It's just kind of the way the market is right now. It's so so weird, by the way, I don't know if you saw those Torey Krug like videos of him touring the st. Louis Blues practice facility very weird holding the 47 Jersey as a blue and like it's just so weird. Yeah what I just still can't process it. I'm still like what is going on? Yeah. What do you mean you're on the blues? It's like I used to be a red wing or like a a blue jacket or a bruin but a blue. I mean, it's just like who like, I mean you saw an episode. Yes. Go black mayor. Go back to like 29 to go back off the spring of 2019. Just not that long ago, really not that long ago, and we're you know, we're covering the Cup Final we're having a great time not a care in the world health-related wage. Imagine if someone you know said hey, you're go through Global pandemic and Tori cruise going to be a Saint Louis blue and twenty twenty and would be like the fuck you talking about Thursday. Oh like I would probably more be like the gold pendant. What the fuck are you talking about? But I think Torey Krug and that would also like go absolutely ape shitt in terms of like and not even counting the fact like it's funny. It's not funny. But you look back in just how much should but like between that and like Kobe Bryant died in January. And I know Tom Brady left off like traded what the hell? Yeah, so but yeah, I mean literally look back OS year and like everyone obviously looks at the him lighting up Rob Thomas, which also that video of them were uniting on a video was like this just doesn't feel right. No, it doesn't like that hit was huge and it's like if Chara was like after he took oh Pacioretty the next year like just some how long On the team sorry buddy, and like it's like with like the Montreal police department and like all them are shaken hands. It's like it's no we're not. Sorry. Sorry. I woke up your spine. Yeah. No, we're not. I I just I I wonder if the Bruins had one that cup. I wonder if they do all this the same stuff. I wonder if first thing the universe would be different. I think the Bruins won the cops know covid-19. Can we all agree on that? Very dark emotion, but I see a reasoning. Yeah exactly. It makes all the sense in the world, but I think that you know people I think if the Box on the cop, I don't think that hit on Robert Thomas would be so funny to st. Louis. I think it would be like, oh, yeah, you know, that'd be like if if you know me land Lugi too much are the Canucks. Oh, yeah after in 2012 and they were like joking around about how you know, it's like hey Alex Burrows takes my favorite holiday is like it wouldn't make a lot of sense. But so that is that we can log Off track there and talking about Krugman covid-19. About it this week in bsj on defense is really only one that's obvious. And it's Mackenzie weegar. It's not like it's this like, you know franchise altering defenseman Mackenzie weegar. By the way was the guy Nola Charlie like killed like like ripped apart like in a fight Iraq their teammates now and like spitting Chiclets to that joke with them. You should see that where they were like massive changes your phone number but Mackenzie weegar is an interesting one. He wouldn't cost a lot. He's due for an upgrade from the one point six million. He's making now but I mean, I would that be worth the two million cap hit that he might bring or 1.8 million. I mean we get you'd have to trade for right cuz he's an RSA right or I think oh, I think Florida wants to trade him. So unless you want to offer him. So anyway, you'd get a guy like we are so it would I mean you hear all the reports saying that we are is in trade talks because Florida doesn't want to sign them to what his new deal is cuz it gives making 1.6. So we turn on a guy who I think is a like a kind of a Bargain Bin kind of guy. I mean, I think Probably if he was getting a raise, I probably say it's around the same kind of pay scale. You looking at a guy like Grizzly got you know, maybe 3 and 1/2 for a million, but I think that's a guy who I mean, I think you trade some assets up front floor because I think we our shores of your your top for my lovely girls game play with ekblad for most of that year. And listen Florida is not a good offensive team having surgery Broski's you're goalie isn't going to help you out. But still that's not a very structured roster to say the least and we are still was one of the best kind of just walk negating scoring chances of five-on-five and he's not the biggest guy but he's still willing to drop the gloves as he saw with him, you know fighting fighting a jar and that's kind of just his style of play. So I mean, I think that we even you know, take out signing guys like Kovalchuk or and he's other forwards if you trade for a guy like we are I think that solves your biggest problem and that you've got Top four said whether it's regardless what the pay is our right McEvoy we are whose twenty-six of course like in Kalo that's a pretty good top-floor to work with especially if they all kind of play to their strengths. So that'd be like think like my thoughts on Focus if with the Bruins we doing is, you know, you know trading I don't know if the cost be like the Brusque or whether it's you know, maybe Buick and some other assets. But again, if you make a move like that and you fit in both him into brushed under the cap with the money you trade away to you know, whether it's fuelcore few other guys, maybe then you can get some more forward depth by then signing a guy like Kovalchuk for Thursday, 8:50 or 7:25 or something like that. So there's a whole bunch of different ways. Like we look at this offseason. It's so tough to map it out because not a lot to happening right now. I think everyone just kind of odd scene in the office where they're all finger pointing guns at each other. It's like no one's making a move. No one's no one wants to be I think people are realizing now that it was really frigging dumb to like just drop money off. The gate because of how much like stuff how many how much people were pretty much like Montreal sounding Josh Anderson to that contract probably like shit, like what negative doing? Yeah. We could I mean like I like Josh Anderson's game and Thursday is the thirty goal scorer. He was when he was healthy. It's still good deal, I guess but still like you have this Market changed or even like the Bruins signing Kevin Miller to you know, 1.252 million + Tap bonuses, like wait a couple of days see how these guys are signing like, it's just the way this Market is that it's it's it's brutal, but all the there were teams clamouring at you know. Gates of warrior for Kevin Miller. Yeah. So I mean, I think that's just like the biggest takeaway think is just have a lot of these teams kind of grinding to a halt here and waiting for the kind of the other shoe to drop off cuz seems like the teams are no hurry. They're waiting to see who bites first and some of these deals and you know it the players really have much of a leveraged right now, right? It's not like you've got a job. Ten teams at a flush with cash right now. And even the teams that have a some money set aside. They still get a handle their own RFA. So like Detroit's got a crap ton of money, but they also have to re-sign mantha and a few young guys like it's not like there's like teams that are just have been on the prowl waiting and plus you've got teams like Tampa that's in cat pal who has some contracts out like this whole thing seems like it's going to be a complete shitshow as we get closer and closer and 14 like the Bruins who yes, once you've signed the Brusque it remains to be seen how much cap flexibility you're going to have but they could be in an advantageous fog in with 2 and 1/2 3 million just in terms of what some of these contracts might drop down to in another month or so, it's funny the Bjork for we got Buick and assets thing for which I think is very intriguing because it feels like you know, they're going to have a good amount of and we both said this they're gonna have a good amount of you know, Fringe top-six forward. You've York. Yeah. Yep. Woman now you have potentially senyshyn you have you know, you have cashing of Craig Smith. You have Nick receipt maybe stood Nika like you've got a whole can I say sneaker? You maybe there's so many friggin guys a ton. Yeah. It's like you have to you have to you know, pick and choose who you want to keep you can't use all of it. Cuz if they want to Kovalchuk that's another one so you can't have all of these guys just there when you could potentially use a guy like pure who has some trade value and maybe a draft pick or maybe another Prospect to get a guy like we are I mean the RFA stuff kind of complicated but potentially do something like that that you could do when I think it would make sense for you to do because you have all of those top six your top nine forwards and you just you know, it wouldn't be the first time left shot of Boston Fringe top-six Winger went to the Florida Panthers Frank vatrano, one of them Riley Smith another dog. But I do think that training for week. I wouldn't be the worst thing in the world and you have you have some cap space if you can get him into breast done. And as you said maybe sign a colchuck am not the worst thing in the world what's funny is they have all the depth up front. Usually the Bruins have a good amount of depth in back this year feels like it's going to be a lot up front two other names up front. By the way, the Mikhail sergachev thing I think is interesting. I have a franchise mode at the Blackhawks and then occasionally one and I almost offer sheeted circuit to him cuz he was on the border forever and not get you up like three first-round picks. I was like no. Yeah, excellent was getting out of that. So that's no idea. No idea. By the way. I traded Jonathan Taves and I got I've traded actually just an aside I traded so this was NHL 21 franchise mode. This is a wild ETA is I traded Taves to the Bruins who are like 504 and down. I was they didn't go over the cap like somehow the the Caps fit that they must traded people away for like a mid first-round pick and some like other pieces and I had to give up some other stuff. That was the box that and then with the Blackhawks the next year. We're supposed to just be complete sellers. We're giving everything up right and the next year. I simulated the whole second season last night and somehow we finished Presidents Trophy winners nice how that happened and at the trade deadline the LA Kings offered me to go ask for Eric Staal and I was like, huh? Okay, so ask is my goalie heading into the postseason and I'm going to get Rask a cup of the starter put with the Blackhawks. So you guys can thank me later you go that's going to happen. That's my that's my hockey with with no hockey on with sports at a very minimum. I guess franchise mode. I mean maybe in a few weeks. We're talking franchise mode. Yeah might be what we have to do the state of the off-season right now, but I wonder is very viable dog. And do you do you play NHL or no? I do I have any channel 20. So what's funny is I feel like I don't know if there's a way to do this cuz it's making people too excited. But if I don't know if I M connected mode or if there's a way to like cuz I know a mad and you can do like G U Can Do frndship notes with other people. There's nothing of that in NHL. We should do a thing with listeners and do like a franchise modes and get them all together and we could have a bunch of different ones in a league and I think that would actually be kind of fun fun way to pass the time. So maybe that's something we we look into bondage we think about and I would do it the way you can I play a ton of Xbox. That's just me. So there's other people out there as well. There's Anthony duclair. There's Corey Perry declares a little tough. Yeah. I'm not create his own Zone, but he does have a lot of offensive upside and I love watching him play. Yeah actually to his game. I feel like he's going to be a kind of like a mini can of Taylor Hall where I think he could be dead. I'll read this Market correctly, which is what happens when you represent yourself in this in your negotiations taking a deal with Ottawa, but I feel like now he's going to be a guy that you know, listen the guy who had a breakout year year and half honest with auto he's good after he went there in February 2019. I feel like he's going to be a guy that is going to try to recoup his value and go to a shity team that's going with a bunch of minutes cuz I don't know if declares your he's not going to be you know, your top top line forward for the entire season or even if he's with crazier or one of those guys. You don't really kind of nowhere outfit since I feel like he's going to go to a team where he can get, you know, sixteen Seventeen eighteen minutes a night and try to get another 20 25 goals season and try again next year cuz it seems like he took seriously misread that market especially for a guy who had a great breakout year is awesome to see but doesn't really have a proven track record yet that you want to folk over a lot of money, especially in the way the the kind of Revenue age. You're kind of hit right now know it's funny now Auto Has Talent like Ottawa has way more time than I had before and they could put him around what around him home and he kind of lost the worst time. Yeah, cuz I don't know. I mean the market stinks and Ottawa isn't going to be good. But you know data. Now there's minutes there. So there's minutes and there's opportunity for power play time and all that stuff. So yeah, I declare I don't think I don't think of rejection go for him. Corey Perry is an interesting one. I don't know. I mean you're going to have a guy like with like in Richie that if you're going to try him out like the Bruins have whipped many times now on just getting this like bigger bottle middle six guy, and I don't know how korte Pari, you know moves the needle for you and granted like he raised his talk a little bit cuz it wasn't that good during the regular season and he played pretty well during the playoffs still you already listen, like the Bruins have already error in a hole with that behind in trade and like you got at this point. I think you probably stick with Richie for now to see what you have before you move on home. So I don't think it makes much sense to get a galley can but I think Perry still going to be a guy that whether it's you know Tampa or one of these other teens or just any of those Contender teams. He's probably go to one of those guys on a very very cheap deal. Yeah. That's why I see Perry doing as well. I don't see him. I mean, you're right the Bruins are terrible getting that big meal sitting so long I don't really know what that value would sort of bring and they have Nicorette used to solve all their offenses problem. Of course. Yeah. Well as the thing is like I know you were looking at guys who own network taking a flyer in for Jeep. Like when I was writing the article about you know, potential targets one guy that stood out to me was Josh Leyva over in Vancouver who solid you know, middle six guy, that's actually a good five on five numbers for Vancouver last year, but then gets hurt back in December of 2019. You know, he I think he broke his knee cap off of a hit from the cold and sweet miss the whole rest of the season wage, but was willing to sign a one-year deal for really cheap. I like that's like who the Bruins it should look at if it's a guy who has good five and five numbers this from risk cuz he's come back from an injury like that but seems like he's healthy now. That's the guy you take a flyer on then like like 20 minutes for I publish the article you sign with Calgary. So I like how to take them off the board. But like what is it with these guys in the Northwest who just rotate t e Don't know. Maybe they're just yeah, they don't like to fly very fast. I had no idea but also calibration. We're just taking everyone so that seems so perplexing cuz like Calgary's honestly should just blow it up. Like I don't see that quarter. Like I'm just like the like the Atlanta Hawks and early 2000s were like they were good, but they were never going to like go fast or it's like what you just delaying the inevitable right now like you got guys who are now like 29-32 like you're not you're not going that far with the way the core is so but I mean touring yeah the boring. Yeah, so but like that's a guy like who the brunch look at home. You can take a flyer on if it works out and he's Thirty Point guide and it's great and you pay him. You know, I think he signs a cow juice for I think 8:50. You know, it's nothing like those guys Flames oglu Cheech 5.25 million through 2023 ice. Oh my God. I'm just looking at the Joakim Nordstrom Rack is why we gotta keep an eye on the Flames cuz joking Norfolk on the Flames. I mean we not going to watch the Flames is Eric Barron. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, it's not good. Well, that's like the state of Georgia flood the market you now it's trying to a halt is that people are like with the broom. Just gotta you know, people are saying like the get-out-of-jail-free card. So just trade down more for a team like, you know, fourteen, you know, tag or Calgary which like clearly they clearly need defensive help, right, but the way that's marketed everyone's so scared shiftless of taking on cap. They're not doing anything like this. Like people are like hammering the brains know you can you can Malcolm for non making kind of the the splashing movies, but also like it takes two to tango and like I'm not trying to make excuses, but you know, you spend a lot of effort into trying to get out all of our dog Asin and then you're dealing with a team in Arizona who just had ridiculous demands there that one budget and things keep getting worse in Arizona. And yeah, they are a great franchise there in Arizona frigging embarrassing but then you know, you've can't hit on that and then at that point, you're like, all right, you're not getting fair market value for any of these guys. You can't, you know, if it's a normal year you'd be able to dump off jean-maurice contract to a team like Winnipeg and Calgary for nothing. Now, it's it has to be this whole labor intensive thing just to get this money moved. So it's first it's dead should look for the Bruins, right? I mean, we look back at last year and how it ended and obviously it didn't end as anyone expected it to based on how good they were before the pandemic kid, but then you look at this offseason, right? Well, they cleared off most Abacus is money. They can still pray add another guy or two and make another run at it and it's like can't do that much. If you can't download any cap at all that's kind of just the way the market is right now dead. And and I agree. I don't want to become a Calgary Flames podcast have no real desire to but you know, they they just signed can't up to a four year 18 million dollar deal on D. I mean like really wage and they only have like a million in cap space. So these teams exactly they could maybe take a John Moore and use a John morning know I mean take him for like they could use them as a maybe perhaps a top-four defenseman and that's really can't handle them at all. Before you go Connor. Is there anything you would like to plug over bsj? Yeah, the headlines aren't really you know to age right now in terms of the Bruins offseason, but we're still looking to have stuff pretty much every day looking at, you know, Jake debrusk contract and maybe some comparables you can get for him will be looking at home burning cows role on this team now to think he's going to kind of a fascinating kind of spot now where he's not going to get nearly as much ozone time as he's had with crude. So maybe there's another way to his game that they can exploit a dog. Sensor shutdown guys, so we'll be with you in a couple of different players that are currently on the team that could have kind of breakout years this upcoming season. So they'll all be over at dsj. So subscriber Boston supposed to remain calm and you can follow me on Twitter at, Ryan. I'm just going 93 you all that Brandon Carlo new enforcer for the Boston Bruins. You heard Boston Sports Journal first CLS media though. I met Marilyn Burns be listeners. 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Surviving the Theme Park Pt 1

Dads Outnumbered

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Surviving the Theme Park Pt 1

"Live from experimenting. Studio in Phoenix Arizona. It's Dad's outnumbered. Let's give a shout out to your hosts Glenn in Craig this episode of took joined by Greg here today and we're certainly glad you joined us. You're one of our listeners and we certainly appreciate Every time you listen be sure to tell your friends. So twelve is more than as true. That's true for huge in Europe. I just wanted to let you know that. Like David Hasselhoff. Like the the exactly the off. They don't understand what we're saying. But they think we're funding. I think that's the important part but It's it's been awhile since we last on the show at the huddling has been. It's been difficult and you know with sick kids and my two of my kids were in a dinner theater where they were you know. They did a dinner theater. Is that like a dying art form. We'll know it's actually a new And actually it works pretty well the so what you have is. The drama department puts on a show and the culinary department that are high. School has your high. School has actually surprise. So they put on a meal and it's Basically this four nights each night seats seventy people. It's a for a full dinner. Full-on dinner and The dinner theater was called murder at the high auction and It took place like in the round around the tables with people and it was actually quite good And I was surprised. The food was good and You know so. It wasn't your traditional dinner Cedar but it was actually a lot of fun. We were not just in case. Your high school has a Culinary Department yes what percentage let me just explore your I Dunno upscale socioeconomic. What is what percent of high schools to you. Think of culinary departments. Hugh what do you think? Oh I would say one out of One out of five probably twenty percent and recognize the all. Have you know in my day? GotTa Touch Olmec. And so they may. But this one actually. I was impressed It's a newer school schools. Only ten years old so but this is a kitchen naked feet. Three hundred people at once. It's I was yes. I don't think twenty percent thiokol research that in I'll put that on our site. Let's outnumber we have a poll. Yeah exactly how many thank you. We'll do polls ball question. That's fantastic now again it's It's hard to believe the year the New Year started. We're heading down the runway here a little bit and I know I don't know how but this guy that I'm sitting with seems to have vacation time up the law zoo here so you recently went on a vacation to California with my right. Yeah and I only used eight hours or so. Let's be very strategic with your vacation time so we added one day to the end of a three day weekend so the three day weekend ended on. Monday and we just added a Tuesday. We headed out to California and stayed with some friends visited for a couple of nights and then we surprised the girls with a little trip to Disney that they did not know that before you laugh torn as I was a little torn about that because there is values. Wait till this giant airplane goes over. Today we're actually in a kind of a park the city hall kind of area but when we say we are taking. We're sitting on a park bench and We're under the path to the Phoenix Airport And so Yom a little torn about that because Essentially there is real value in getting your kids excited about going to Disneyland or the other Amusement Park. There's the research you get to look at the maps online. Figure out what they're excited about research talk about that. There's something to that And we had done that before this can you? Can you also hold it over their head to say if you don't do use it as a carrot to get them to be difficult to be searching you got the whole visit like a it with my wife? I think started to do that early on and I was like extend on that. Because you want it to be specially. I want them to feel like you're like I worked so hard I did. I was good for this to wait in line. So I'm sorry nope I don't WanNa ruin the flow but a so. We surprised them. Yeah we went to Disneyland and this was our second visit. So we've gone before when they were five and three and that was all about princesses chasing princess is getting autographs. I think we hit every princess except Jasmine and I was like two parks them wearing their outfits. All that stuff and This time we went a lot a lot lighter when later now I have been the. What's the what's the rape these days? going into He went to Disneyland the magic before we did like the to park hopper and everything else and Disneyland. It's pretty interesting. They have dynamic pricing. And so you WANNA make sure you're looking at to go but I also went to a website called undercover tourist dot com and they have a crowd calendar there and you can see what days historically and with all factors being added in are going to be light traffic at Disneyland and so at point since I used to work at Disneyland an highest. We ought to get to that. In a minute I will only go to Disneyland on non busy got US so. I'm always looking at Tuesday through Thursday if I can pull that off some way shape or form but there's only about four Green Day's green days on undercover during the whole year now only four left between now and September. Wow so I wanted to grab one of those days and they rate them from one to ten so you can look up crowd calendar and see what the crowd will be out of ten ten being probably shoulder to shoulder. He can't even walk and zero being. Probably no one in the park at all so this was supposed to be a three out of ten day. the Tuesday so rule busy over the holiday weekend and then boom so. The tea is the day after a major holiday. Yeah mid week. If you've got to pull the kids out of school prices left. I'm out of off peak day. So they have this dynamic pricing and so what I found interesting about that is slower days last crowded days. They charge last. 'cause they want slow supply and demand they want people to come on those days right so that makes sense except when he started thinking about it as someone who's going to Disneyland you're paying lasts for a better experience. So the lines are shorter. Dress crowds and into reverse logic exact. Yeah so on. The surface seems like a good idea on their park or people. But it's weird if you're going on the weekend Disneyland you're paying more for a worse experience. Yeah and I don't think number one. Yes so you want to look for these crowd days And still family of four two adults two children one part just Disneyland We said listen. Disneyland was enough. When I was a kit right supplemental highs to run around plus trying to do too perks in one day. That's stressful Like one Park Day. And if you're GONNA stay longer great but the one park family of four was about four hundred bucks that's mid week. Now you get up to six hundred seven hundred if you're going on the weekend then you add in some of the other factors like Amac's pants and all that sort of and food and all of that could in Disney counts eight child as up to nine years old. Is that correct and you can really so. But but yeah. It's only ten dollars on so we were like one sixteen a day and they were one. Oh six today. So don't look back. Child brings up to three year. Free Maize Yeah S. somewhere to airlines. I guess wow interesting so you sit there and you ask these questions like you don't know anything about this. I'm an expert at Disney. But not as much on Disney gland. I've been there since the time I've just a big blow. I lived in Florida for a number of years and so I'm well versed. I am The Walt Disney world expert and crank is the Disneyland expert but What's interesting is my first part was Disneyland. I went there well before it went to anywhere in Florida so And I still find it the most of my first reaction and with all due respect to those who love the magic kingdom is that When I went and went to Disneyland and number of times I've lived in California. I went to Walt Disneyworld. Let it looks like a copy. It doesn't look as real. You know it's authentic. You know what I mean. It's like they skimped on some things but That's my point of view but I have grown to love it Over the time so but was it. somebody types day. Thank you have been to Disneyworld Disneyworld easily fifty sixty times and I've been to Disneyland. Probably maybe ten times so young. I think I've been to Disneyland. One hundred four employees. I work there. Now let's get back to the Do you want to continue on with on there? Well no no we. We can jump around so I want to hear a little more about Disneyworld. Well Disneyworld. I think it's One thing you can't do this not staff. Yes so the park bench here. The one thing with Disney were of Walt Disney world resort. So it's The Walt Disney world resort for those of you haven't been there And there are four major parks and there's a variety of water parks so you have the magic kingdom which is a almost replica of Disneyland. And then you have the Basically Disney Hollywood studios which is trying to compete with Universal up the road. Then you also have epcot and then lastly you have the animal kingdom see a four separate parks all about the same size. Believe it or not me and my two daughters and a friend we we one day. We wanted to get To all four parks in a single day and We didn't make it was It was just wanted to do a ride at each one. You could. It's almost impossible to go to all four parks. You have to be are they? All Ford owned by Disney. They're all owned operated than there on the so. The The Walt Disney world resort is the giant campus. That they're on each of the parks are on there one thing that the hidden gem of course With these parks is that really was the still the neatest if I asked my kids today. What's your favorite Disney experienced? They would go Campground Disney or Fort Wilderness is what it's actually called so Disney has actually a campground on site and it's located near the contemporary resort near the magic kingdom and What's interesting about it is? Is that you. If you don't like to to camp were do the ten thing they'll actually Rent you attempt. They'll set it up for you. they'll stock it with food. They also have cabins log cabins there and then we our own camper so we camped there and you could eat off the floor. It's so clean. I Made Service They have liquor is a plenty And it really is the neatest experience because one. Is You park the car. And then you rent a golf cart and drive around pools. Open twenty four hours a day. There's no lifeguard after eleven o'clock and you can also rent boats on the lake which is awfully cool. And so all of that is a really neat experience at the Fort Wilderness Park. And we'll put all of these tips on the DADS outnumber dot com so sorry my being too rigid. No no I just like seeing people walk by and try to figure out what we're doing we're doing here. Yeah that's right. I'm Craig I do Want to say you know you mentioned you work there. So what how was it a summer? Was it a. What kind of tell me about that. Well before I get to work there. There are some things I wanted to talk about about our recent trip on police So one of the things I thought was important beforehand. If you have the time sow some people like to surprise their kids. Some people just go on a whim some people. Just don't mind how much money they're gonNA spend. They wanted to be special. And you're going to run into different types of people when they talk about Disney eighty eighty five percent of people will say that Disneyland Expensive Some people will think it's expensive but are fine thrown down a couple thousand dollars to make an experience I on the other hand More of a thrifty individual but I think when it comes to your kids right You WanNA establish goals for the trip. So if you're talking to him about going what are they most interested in it rides is attractions is it. Character interactions. What is it that they're hoping most to get out of the trip? And you won't have those conversations over a couple points in time so they can think about it give you feedback and then you can almost establish let them look at the the park map. Let them sort of get familiar with the park and trying to figure out what they want. Most so you can establish your flow your movement through the park around those goals because if you run out of time you. WanNa make sure you're hitting the things that are most important to your energy appier kit so get them excited Start targeting their interest. Figure out what those are sort of have a plan now. If you don't want to spend money which is like what I did. There are ways to Disneyland for a little bit cheaper so One thing is if you're planning sometimes you can plan at Disneyland trip. Nine months ahead six months at a sort of big outing so you can start saving points on a particular credit card or if you're doing business travel or anything the we had points to stay in a hotel. Most hotel companies are around Disney. They want in on that so You can stay. We stayed at the hotel across the street now. Everyone likes to go in on the Disneyland Hotel. We've never done that so I can't really speak to that as much by. I've seen it a couple of the hotels and I try to center that experience around the park. It's exactly I mean you're basically you pay for the lobby. Basically what you're really paying because the guestrooms exactly the same and Disney's are totally open to the public right. Yeah exactly and so. There's some great things happen in those lobbies you can always walk through. They're not gonNA kick you out So it's shortage shaping that experience so Stay on state a hotel on points We did the one park. We set expectations for one park. There was a little fall out on that because they hide Ana Nelson over in California so we decided to let him out for us. So we're not gonNA see on Anelka. There was a little bit of heartbreak about that but then we sort of moved on now. A little bit of heartbreak is better than paying an extra two to fifty dollars and the The Single Day Park Hopper pass peak just to let you know his one hundred ninety nine dollars. Great see several hundred dollars down. Just one thing I learned is you can pack your own. Lunch is now. We're talking down to Soda Cans Bottles Soda Cans. They don't care too much about what you bring in so you can actually bring in your own beverages to Disneyland. It's a great time So pack your lunch is packed dinner. Whatever it is. Compact Sodas cheetos. They say it's sort of more handmade type thing so you wanna make sandwiches have chips snacks and handmade type items. They don't you bring in your spaghetti from the night before and trying to eat it up and needed and that sort of one of the examples that they use. Microwaves the diaper changing stations. Just to let you know that it will. Why is that just a warm water bottles and bottles and stuff? Yeah so those are actually great oasis. If you have kids in diapers or it's a hot day you know. Those are places to go because there's chairs the setup for nursing mothers and for the families and it's quiet oasis at cost nothing to go into so keep that in mind to less. Tips is one is. You can think about getting them gift upfront or well. In one case I knew that the kids were into Peter Pan. Mary poppins right so I had ordered from Amazon and had the gifts sent to the hotel for guests. Arriving guests arriving on this date Craig Smith so when I checked in. They said we have some packages for you. That's really smart. And then the tip. Yeah and the kids get those toys or that in its get some satisfied and my brother and I have this Approach to Disney and the Disney Parks. Which is even if they're not satisfied with that. We always try to get our kids to get a gift early and so jen and I I will do is walking to the park so we stay across the street as you walk to the crosswalk to cross the street to get to Disneyland. There's a number of these knockoff. Disney you know Places you can buy schoffstall gift shops right and so we usually just tell the kids. We're GONNA stop in here. You got ten dollars to spend and so they go round. You can't buy anything ten dollars but we scale them up to fifteen and sixteen. We look like the you know the good guys show generous so yes and so they get something early in the day. Don't spend your whole day with the kids. Running around gift shops at Disneyland. Get Him something early at Disneyland in the park or even on your way into Disneyland. Then they're satisfied. They've got their toy playing with it all day. Long very strategic in little remind him of the day too so totally and then the last thing is stroller. You might not think you need a stroller a six year old. They walk everywhere. We never use a stroller in our regular lives at this point but we took a stroller and is okay. Because I think about this is your kids will eventually tire out do. Want them tiring out from walking from point a two point. Eight point scene in the near day. You're paying all this money in your day is done. At two o'clock three o'clock you'll be carrying them for miles right. Absolute we had a double stroller borrowed it side by side one. It was great the kids I am all for it. You can ride from place to place. We're going from matterhorn over to space mountain. Jump in the stroller whenever you want. If you WANNA walk walk if you WANNA be in the stroller hearing this great idea because what happens is you're right. They will physically there there there. My mind wants to going but physically. They can't off another steady and it makes and more pleasurable for them to actually not whining about anything. The DAY LASTS LONGER. They can go from ten. Am Til six or seven at that age and we never had 'em relief physically wear out and that's because we were pushing the stroller which is pretty easy to do. So I'm those are tips so we run a down year point stay nearby One Park if you can pull it off. Pack your lunch gift early in the day or upfront have it. Shipped to the hotel and take a stroller. Don't be ashamed of the stroller. Even if your kids are okay. And what was that website for the off? Peak season again undercover tourist undercover tourist. And we'll put that and this all off the tips on the sites there. One thing that's one advantage of staying at the for Disneyland area is by staying at the closer hotels again. Depends on the age of the kids. Is that We were there a few years ago and you could run. Run DOWN to the hotel for an hour. Rest take a shower and then get back at it. So that's one of the advantages. You really can't do that effectively at the Walt Disneyworld because everything is so darn spread out one other One quick tip on add onto yours. Well is Especially for the ladies. There's the bitty boutique and I think is wanted I know people who have spent a thousand dollars on whatever Te My tip is is that I don't know if they have something like this at Disneyland at Walt Disney World Resort in the magic kingdom. They actually have a barbershop. It's right on Main Street where the fire station is and we are two or three daughters their first haircut there so they put pixie dust in their hair. It's like I don't know what the prices are but it's It's super cheap. It's literally a barbershop. And then the only difference is they sprinkled fixing us and I've saved nine hundred eighty five dollars by doing that. And it's a great memory to get a hat and all of that so it's really neat neat experience. So the barbershop still there. I checked today and It's a great experience at. It's something people don't know you don't you can't see unless you're standing right on it and I don't think they take reservations cfpb standby and so you just keep going back until it's there and they move in and out. It's really a neat thing. I don't think they have it at Disneyland. But that is wonderful. Because what you're going to red crosses fanatics about this bitty Bob. Oh Yeah and you know. It's a great thing that's GonNa cost your arm and leg and then there's the justification in the rationalization that come with it is all their hair. They feel special to get to meet all the princesses. Well guess what they're gonNA probably meet all the princesses in the course of the day anyways if you go to the Royal Palace. I think it's called you meet four princesses right there. You're going to meet another two walking around Disneyland My daughter is walking around and ran into her favorite princess. Right by the CAROUSEL. She grabbed her hand and she was able to walk with Belle and beast through the park for short distance. My other one was there to see Peter Pan and he came right up and play tag with her. And so you end up seeing more characters than you thank. So don't get too obsessive about. I must do this so my kids will see these characters get no. That's that's an excellent point and there's always You know if you aren't dining on in the park they do have special character. Meals character breakfasts If their opener cheaper typically than the character lunch and dinner and you're so the character breakfast at Like Epcot You know it was always at Norway. It's a place that people were going to but it was a lot less expensive and you've got five or six of the characters there so it was a good deal from that Stan Mike. It's still remember that first time we went out areas grotto which I think is closed now but They got it was great for me. I had a beer at a booth and all the princesses came by one by one tenth of table. Thank you know you're GONNA end up paying for it but if that's something you're interested as dining experiences are numbered fantastic. Everybody interesting tips. Like I said we'll put those on our site but we're going to wrap up this episode. This is a two parter. So did you say to set a two-parter and the fun? Double The fun. And so we'll On our next episode we'll go into more tales of Disney and looking. You're talking about two parts for the same price. Oh we don't charge on. We don't charge. That's right exactly but advertisers get twice the exposure. A wait a minute. We don't have any never mind so thank you for joining us back. Next time For part of this great episode spotted by nine like me own. I can dad's outnumbered was recorded at experimented studios located in Phoenix Arizona. Please leave a message after the tone. We Are Dad's outnumbered.

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Episode 43: Harley Quinn

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Episode 43: Harley Quinn

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I gotta respect the hustle shout out if she. He's listening all the way things she is essentially. Today. We have a special guest. Oh my gosh. This is a voice that I've heard from most of my life, and I got to be being in the room with them. You know, you saved it all for the air. I didn't I didn't wanna geek out. But now you can't be weirded out because we have you on tape. Still be on tape. The door. Does have a lock. Escape room. The puzzle. You have to get out of here. Only one in here who hasn't been in a scape room because I I yeah, I'm bad at puzzle. So I just know him 'cause you know, every time every one of my friends who go and escape rooms there there always is that one person who they're like this guy was so dumb, and he was slowing down the process. And I was like, oh, I don't wanna be that. I don't wanna be that person. If you're good at something you have value you want bring someone that's good at word game. Someone's getting math someone's gonna puzzle. Like, oh, I can figure out this math question. I can figure out this geography customers people that are good at different things or helpful. Okay. Cool. Yeah. And even if you just having a good time in portion where it's like do a fortnight dance. I haven't seen that. But we need someone. That's as hell or something like. Yeah. You have to dead lift this three hundred and fifty pounds look shell. We're talking to a woman of in my opinion, thousands of voices. I don't know if that's correct. But I'm going to think that it is Korean chasers. This week. It was eleven hundred seem credited roles, you know, a lot of times. We're like, hey, can you do this extra little girl in the silver guy over here? Yeah. Roger Craig Smith who you have worked with eight. You hate canonical hate he was saying that. Yeah. In one show alone. It was he was credited as doing one hundred voices in one show. That's because he's not good. They'll be like oh, give the crappy little were. He can say one word or a snort or a gas. Give him the little bit parts that no one will hear about going to clip this and send it to him directly. We are talking to Tara strong. Thank you so much for joining us today. We are covering Harley Quinn. We are covering the history of Harley Quinn and kind of what she came to be. And what she is. Now, Tara you voiced bat girl before you were Harley. What was that kind of like that transition of getting to play essentially, a hero in my opinion? Harley is still a hero. I guess an anti hero. But what was it like switching from girl? Barbara Gordon to Arleen. Well, first of all it was so cool to be back early. It was like I was pretty new in town. And there were a million people in that casting room like A-List celebrities, huge tally. And I was like oh my God. And when I looked at my age like when you you still had answering machines he's like, oh my God. You're the girl. That's the back your background. I was like oh my God. And then I was in the booth with Mark Hamill on one side and Kevin Conroy on the other. And I was like holy crap. There was Adrienne Bard bow. And then there was Arleen Sorkin who is one of the most beautiful creatures you've ever seen and her voice is so it's so distinctive and beautiful. And the the character was created for her. They created Harley for her. And it's modelled after her. She has a similar look, and that voice is unmistakable. And watching her do her bits with Hamill. Like, I really was like pinching myself every day just to be alongside this greatness. And I just always loved her and adored her. And then when they went into the Arkham games they brought me in there wasn't an audition process. They said they wanna take Harley to a new level, and I was terrified because of those those are some pretty big boots to fill and, you know, people love their actors that create a voice that may. Make that voice famous which is great. You know, the fans that love us were nothing without them. And they get pissed off when we get replaced. So do we so it's like, you know, I was really scared because she's such a beloved character that oh my gosh. I hope people love my version because they didn't want me to do an impression. They wanted me to take what I knew of her and then make it my own and blow it out for this video game. And I was really really nervous at that session and to sort of tap into her essence, I had her one of her famous lines on my phone. So like anytime before I'd go into a session. I would just be like eat after living with Mr. j this time I'd be used to little like that's how I got into it every time and then build from that. And by the way, Arlene was so gracious like in the press, she said that she had spoken to her husband after she saw me working like maybe one of the first times, I'm back girl. And she said if there was anyone ever to take over for me, I'd want it to be Tara. Oh my gosh. I have not been as gracious to people. Was Justice doll, and I feel so honored to follow in her footsteps in. It's it's one of those roles that like when you're by yourself doing a video game. It can be completely so vocally taxing because even if you're not doing a thousand deaths sounds it's just you for four hours nonstop. And so sometimes you're like, oh, I have to do this video game. I know it's going to be crazy anytime it's Harley I get so happy because it's like therapy. Like, I get in there and get to scream at the world, and it's so much fun. And now I feel like she's so much part of me. Like, I get really upset when someone else plays Harley. Like, I'm like that. I'm Harley, you know. And I just love any any iterative her. I love and have done so many, you know, the video games is very specific than there was DC girls in DC superhero girls. And then there's been some shorts that I've done and other entities like anywhere. She lives. She's a little bit different here. She's more Harley lean here. She's a little bit older here. She's a teenager here. She's whatever, and you make that adjustment in your mind to be her in these different places. And it's always fun. And I do think she's a hero. Because, you know, first of all you love to hate the bad guy anytime, but there's such like a sincerity to her and like a pure love. Like, no matter what's going on out. How abusive the joker is or no matter what she's facing. She still comes at her like proud. And her abilities and her agility from love, even if she's bashing someone in the head as like, she's just pure powerful love, and you have to love her because she does everything. So completely like there's nothing half ass about Harley. Yeah. Nothing which he loves one hundred percent. And right hates one hundred percent. She's extremely loyal. That's what she's extremely loyal. And I feel that way too about a about poison Ivy. I always see poison Ivy as a hero. I'm like she's trying to save the planet. Nobody's listening like we're the ones that are destroying the planet, and she will kill us if she has to, but yeah, I agree. I think that there's such a fine line between hero and villain. And I really think it's depending on the perspective, or it's like they say the best villain is one that you can understand. I think the best villain as a hero. Who goes too far? You know, like, you know, have someone like air kill monger, who you're like, I see where you're coming from please chill out even Banos. I see where. You're coming from please chill out. You know, that is the because you know, that hyper evil is just so done in cliche. And everyone does something for a reason. So to do something to rule the world or to end the world. It's like, well, why are you doing that? You see a villain with vulnerability? That is like it's so moving because you always anytime, there's a superhero comic or character. You think what's their origin story? And when there's a villain, and you and you see the origin stories where we see what they're going through. It's like, wow. And there's always pieces that you can relate to even if it's someone like fans are Harley like some craze like okay, I can relate to that. Character even though they can shoot lightning bolts out their eyeballs. There's something that I can relate to in their psyche. Yeah, I feel that way because we did an episode on the punisher, and I forgot to mention that he said you're one bad day away from being me, which is so true. That's how the that's kind of what happened with Harley, you know. And I think that there is some I think she has sympathy for the joker. And then the ba- Batman. Has sympathy for her and watching this like watching her chase after him. Yeah. There definitely seems to be a level of Batman being like, you're you got like there were like few episodes where you see him like the joker doesn't care about you. And she's like shut up. He was a big Malley. You guys get the digital remastered that just came out. Oh, yeah. You mean with the tiny funk? Oh, oh, yeah. It's sitting here in my walls. Yeah. At comecon. They played it on the big screen side by side and that show holds up anyway, it's like film, Noir mutiple, but to watch it re colored it's like, holy crap. It's so beautiful. Yeah. Got it. I mean, I feel like you know, we're talking about origin stores. I think this is a good place to jump in on Harley Quinn. So Harley Quinn her full name is Dr Harley Francis Quincy, well, this V H D. And this is you know, she what's dope is she came from the animated series, but she still had that like nineties level. Like naming where like superhero names, their real name sounds like their nickname. I always bring it up on the podcasts. Black bolts real name is blacker guard bolt again. Really shot for the moon. Edwards 'nigma? Right. Yeah. That's that's the Ridler come on. That's that'd be like, that's the guy. That's gonna be the guy. It sounds like but early Quincy fictional character. Appearing in DC comics was created by Paul dean and Bruce him, and I appeared in Batman the animated series, which makes her so unique, you know, which goes to show just the performance just like, you know, I feel like a lot of times people underestimate or under appreciate except for the fans the over. I was gonna say over appreciate. But he appreciate just enough voice actors and just how dynamic their performance can be because Harley Quinn would not exist without the performance. You know, like if that wasn't a amazing performance in the animated series. It could have just been a character that lived in died with this series. But instead it was so good that because of Arlene. Yeah. Like had she not given that voice all those crazy little quirks and highs and lows and things like catch ear the what was that? Not just another chicks voice. It's really she breathed life into this character that you want to hear more from even though it can be high or irritating. Crazy like I got to work. I want to hear. More. Yeah. Yes. So going off of what you were saying about Arleen. So she was a former star of the soap opera days of our lives and appeared in a dream sequence on that series in which she ward just or costume. So like terrorists saying it was literally based on literally that episode is why they created Harley. Yeah. Yeah. So she starred in an episode titled jokers favor in September of nineteen Ninety-two tear. I wanted to know because she was just supposed to be kind of like a walk on role. If she was just supposed to kind of be like, the sidekick, but not really have what she is. Now, why do you think that people latched onto her and have stayed latched onto her? Yeah. I think that reason has changed over time. And I think initially people were so drawn to her because first of all the fact that joker even has a girlfriend interesting like who would date the joker. And the fact that she's so lovable in so loyal. And also her costumes are always kick ass. No matter what they put her in Harleys. Like, you know, it's the biggest cause play. Like, especially Comecon, but any of them, you know, there's just Harley events like I went to like a Harley panel in the whole room was Harley. Of course, I the prized everyone in 'cause plate, and it was freight, those pictures are awesome. But I think people like I think they were drawn to her initially because of the total package it was her drying. It was it was the writing of her. It was the acting was how she looked and the dynamic between her and joker and how she would go for Batman like what cute little chicks gonna go after Batman Harley. You know, like, I think there was so much that went into this perfect storm to create this kick ass chick. And then over the years white people love her and how she sustained is because she's grown with the times, you know, some characters stay very classic. But she's like grown like people like, wow. Like in some of the games that you see like her becoming her own woman in her own power and kicking ass by herself. And like, I just think it's something people aspire to go. Well, she started out as this meek little, you know, wilting. Flower beside joker. And now she's doing things by herself and kicking ass all on her own. It's like, wow, people like blown away by her power. And she so powerful like you're just drawn to her and everybody sees something in themselves from her nothing people are all psychopaths. But. Definitely see. Well, I've put up with some crab in my life that I shouldn't have. And I still love that guy or whatever it is. That you go she's so devoted, and but also she's so cute, and that's part of it to her design is so cute. It is a reason people 'cause play her people don't always 'cause play TIMMY Turner, if they're not hot really naked cost. Too sexy to me. Let's see I'm gonna look for that. I did want to say this was an interview from Bruce Timm in Vanity Fair in two thousand sixteen he said, we didn't want to give joker girlfriend because it humanizes him. We are really trying to stress how bizarre and creepy. He could be and this is from Paul Dini complex. I was writing the script for the Batman animated series. When I was coming up with an idea for the jokers gang of henchmen. I thought I'd like to put a female character in there. I was going back and forth in my head about what kind of character. She should be. What if she's funny? What if there's a bit of a throwback to the henchmen from Batman in the sixties? What if she gets laughs from the henchman sometimes when the joker doesn't? That's what I really love about her. Is that like you said she moves honestly from being a follower to a leader? Yeah. She went from she appeared in a suicide squad in the new fifty two that was in twenty eleven the new fifty two was when DC came through. And kinda just we did a lot of their lines. And then she ended up in rebirth. Having her own comic Harley Quinn comic. And she's also. Gotham city sirens. And she's like one of the only sustainable comic heroes that didn't start as a comic yet. You know? And now all her comics are huge in the the bigger book. Ones are awesome. I mean, I bought them all. I've read them all yet. But as soon as I did killing joke, I had to buy everything that was like that too. That. Yeah. Yeah. It's so funny about it too. Is a Harley is kind of similar in joker in the sense. That joker was supposed to just be a villain of the week. And somehow he called me out. And then, you know, same thing for Harley she was going to be just this character who popped on. And she just was so amazing that I yeah, there's there's something I think about her that is just so infectious where you just love seeing her. And I think it is just in a way where I find that, you know, joker. Like, he is funny. But he's funny in a creepy way. Like, it's very dark, and you don't really trust his last where Harley seems like she's having fun. You know, you're what you're doing bad. But she's also a train wreck which is always fun to watch. What is that girl? Going to do next. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Terry. I wanted to actually quote, you because we have this in here from that Vanity Fair article where you said feminism is about showing women as fully fleshed out human beings. And that's what Harley is she doesn't make choices that are smart or good for woman, but she gets to make those choices men are allowed to be Upson all kinds of characters and women. Aren't we have to be idolized? She gets to not be good quote. Our producer put that in there. He was like well because he pulled a lot of the research. He was like he texted us yesterday. And was like, wow. A lot of these quotes are from Tara. I do want to say that she kind of paved the way for characters that we see now leg Jessica Jones who deals with mental illness that she's alcohol EQ, and she like she's allowed to be flawed. But way, before she appeared we had characters like Harley that we're kind of groundbreaking of like, no women don't have to be pretty imperfect all the time, they can still be super strong, but have but have flaws, which makes them more relatable. I find that you know, that that is like the pinnacle to representation because lots of times when people are like insert, you know, certain race or women here they have to they there's this need to make them always perfect because we're like, we don't wanna offend them. But it's like, no, we, you know, the fun stuff usually in media and storytelling is like seeing someone fail and bounce back and go through hard times. And you know, you don't wanna see someone just be perfect boring. Yeah. It's very boring. You don't get to do the fun stuff. So that that is very true. Like, you know, especially like, I think pre pre Harley pre a lot of stuff, you know, you usually have believe it to beaver syndrome where like, you know, the wife is the homemaker and she's perfect, and she's not going through stuff, even though she's taking care of five kids and a dog, you know, when you mentioned he's not in the best. Yes. Go crack, some skulls. Yes. Please do that day. I was going to say we are going to get into some of Harleys abilities as well as the video games right after these messages. Hi, I'm Ariel Casten. And I'm Jonathan Strickland and together we're going to tell you the stories behind some of the biggest triumphs in failures and business. That's right. We're going to explore situations that tested the medal of entrepreneurs pivotal moments required. Making tough decisions. We'll be talking about some big companies that everybody knows like Disney LEGO and Harley Davidson and together we try to answer the question. What do you do when you find yourself at the brink? Listen and subscribe at apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to your podcasts. We're we're that tear you were talking about how strong she is. I think a lot of times people do forget a lot of Harleys abilities. I mean Harley ability Harley, Arlene, I was thinking of her her abilities as a doctor in the she's incredibly smart, I think as goofy as she is she's increase she has a PHD in this room. How the PHD what's funny about picking up like storied storytelling is there's so much so many years of lore that that's find the most fun part of like comics where there's one writer who's like, oh, we never talk about that. Let's touch on that. And and I am waiting for the Harley comic where she's like cooking up all these different, you know, sp- because like if you think about it jokers always trying to make those like laugh gases Harley probably is the one who knows how to cook it up the best. Yeah. It's always fun to as an actor to play her both both ways. Like if there's flash. Bax or things of her from when she was Har lean more Harley like there's a difference in my voice when I'm doing Harley as opposed to what I'm doing Harley even within the same game. And it's always so interesting to like bring in the crazy legs. She starts at like. Okay. What what what's bothering you today? Not just like like like. Like like, you know, and vocally I come at it from a different place. I mean when I'm in the studio, I like imagined in my mind, what's happening. I see all the action. So that sort of happens organically, where it's a little bit lower a little more like a human, you know. And then when it becomes Harley it's like game over just, you know, just want to talk a quick sidebar about the talent of voice actors like sometimes when you hear an views voice actors like, oh, I just do an impression of this person. Doing an impression of this person. Like, oh, I can't I stopped at the first one. I'm not good. And it seems like Harley is one of those characters who seems like it is like almost like, I don't know the it's an accent. But then take into the max, what would you say? Well, I'd say for starters that it is not an can't be an impression if you're just copying what someone did before. You'll never capture the essence, and especially someone like Harley who is so deep and so complicated and conflicted. If you're just try. To sound like you're never gonna get to that core. And part of what makes her so incredible. Is you know, there's a lot of deep stuff going on. And you can't just say hang in a copy of that anytime, I've been in an animated session where someone's coming in and doing an impression of looks Mel Blanc character that's not around anymore. I always like, it drives me nuts where I can hear the difference between someone that just does a good impression and someone that captures the essence of that character, and as a huge huge difference and not everybody can do both and you can hear it right away. And that's one reason some people don't like a version of Bugs Bunny version of Harley because you like, they're not the greatest actor their just copying a voice, and whenever someone wants to get into voice acting. They say how do you start? I said have you ever taken acting class have to come at it from an actress standpoint, you have to take acting classes seen study, improv singing lessons note, your voice can do like you gotta have a bag of tricks. You can't just go in there and read off a paper or copy something you've heard because it's not going to be authentic. So that's like a big big deal and not every voice actor can do impressions. Even if they have good ears. Thus me. I'm the worst at impressions. Okay. You might be a good boy sack. Oh, you know. I'm gonna go inside baseball after leading lead NAR CVA listeners. See I always get those nuggets from you. When I get these geniuses in here. So feel free to thank me. I always like to ask for thanks because you know, that's what keeps me going on there. But. It's great that you say that because I'm just we're getting back to her train transition. Not yet. I'm because I'm still an inside baseball mode. I get so mad when I get vio auditions like, oh, this was a role done by X. So sound like accidentally. Oh, why am I getting this? I don't I don't know how to sound like that person. Is is your advice the same just do you? Or if you're supposed to sound exactly if they're trying to do exactly voice match, and you can't and you can't get there. If you have a couple of days to get their work on it like really work on it. And if you can't get there don't go in if you can get there and still bring your own essence into it. Go for it. But there's going to be people in there that get it. That are perfect and you don't want to walk in there. Like, oh that guy sounds exactly like bugs sound like, you know, TIMMY Turner. No, it's not gonna work. Right. So you better be pretty close. If you're going to go in and try and voice match, but still. Make it your own, but not vocally necessarily with your acting like initially for the new rocky and bull winkle show that I'm doing they didn't want voice match. They said we wanted to capture the essence of rocky, but not a voice match. So I was actually pretty terrified because it hasn't been animated since the sixties and the adult generation or people that have watched it on reruns know, what they want to hear it. I'm like, are you sure you want to do an impression? And then there was chemistry. Reeds which means you go in with the person. That's playing bull winkle which was is Brad Norman, and he's doing exactly moose and everyone else in the show is exactly the tasha and fearless leader. They are all those people. So I was like, wow. 'cause they want me a little deeper in a little more sarcastic. And so I did that I looked it. But it still didn't feel exactly right to me. And I swear to God when June died it's like she jumped in my body. And be like this is how it's supposed to sound. And I begged the director let me go back and do the first few episodes more like rocky, which we did. So you you have to know who. You're playing and know everything about that character. If you have to do an impression watch that stuff over and over and over and get it like years ago, I had to do a Rosie Perez impression and at first I didn't have it. And I watched white men can't jump a thousand times like over and over. And I I'm like, you know, sometimes when you win you actually over and over over and then finally sometimes when you win you actually lose and sometimes when you lose your actually win and sometimes new tie you actually win or lose. And I'm like, that's what was it. Like, it took me a wild like get her, you know, and then I can say anything you can ask me anything I can say it like her. But I didn't think oh I'll try like I worked on that for days to hit the right pocket. All right now, you know, the where are, you know, now that was that was a that was a free masterclass. You look only deficit dropping nuggets like this. That's why you need us up to me on Twitter. At least thank me. Let's go into these abilities. So we were talking about her being a doctor, but she does have abilities because she has friends, for example, poison Ivy who is toxic by nature. She didn't wanna poison Harley with her natural toxin. So harlequin is immune to various though, not all toxin and heals quickly for minor wounds. The so she's not just the doctor woulda big old mallet. She actually has them. Although that now it mainly are saying she has tremendous strength because that mala is like you is massive attack about the girls four arms. I mean, that's like that's super human strength Harley, Quinn, superhuman superhuman. She's a superhero, she did enhancer strength and natural agility and develop an immunity to jokers venom in toxic gas. So and it was mentioned in the Batman animated series and comic books, and she probably has unity from other knockout chemicals. There's a lot of fake out. She likes to do where she's like, I'm knocked out. Just kidding. Sorry. Time time to listen to her thousand. I love that. So if you do listen to tear at times, you come back, and you have that voice down. We will be next. Something that I forgot about Harley is that she is a gymnast. She's a train gymnasts, and she was actually before she when she was studying to be a to get her PHD. She was a gymnast. So she can bend in ways. Leonardo agile. She makes up pretty apparent. I did want to say also that she has a criminal psychology. She also I I wanna say as as someone that is a hardcore feminists. I like the fact that she does use her sexuality in certain ways. That's well, unlike he's like, you say over the years, it's changed. Yes. She was a lot more submissive in the beginning. But she's found her power over the years, and she's not afraid to use it. Yeah. As she shouldn't be. And I think I think her being sex positive is also important too. Because I feel like that has changed and I feel like my generation is super sex positive, and we're no longer just like trying to shame women. You know? So I like that. I like that about her costumes. I like that she can be sexy smart and super fricken strong. Yeah. I like that too. So you know, I'm the game. Dude. Her look actually changed with Arkham asylum 'em, and then tear you came in for Arkham city, origins and night. Let's talk about the skeletons of this how 'cause you know in games, you it's it's a lot different than just a straight narrative script, you're doing all these potential side, you know, comments, especially like if a player chooses to ask a million questions is is that a different product process, or is it just a longer session. Well, when you're doing a series, you're with typically the other actors, so you're playing off each other, which I prefer to do because it's more fun. Like, if someone says, we gotta go you, Michael, okay? If someone, you know, you're responding you're listening as the actor. So when you're doing video game, you're all by yourself. And you have to imagine what the other people are saying and in video games, you have to you have to act out all the different scenarios that could happen. So yes, it's a lot more work. It's a lot more dialogue. Like if it's almost like a choose your own adventure book like you have to record. Every which way that could end, right? And a lot of times you're recording. Like, the idol lines two like, I guess. I want to thank me to dance something I rang like you got to there's so much to record. And I think the obviously the most vocally taxing or the pain noises and the fighting noises, they can be bad like okay in this scene. Harleys electrocuted. Okay. In this scene. She's falling off a cliff and dies. And you know, there's so many different things that you have to record an ex it's a lot. It's a lot for sure. But it's it. I don't know why with Harley it's just never a chore. Like, I always feel so grateful to be in those shoes. It's awesome. I did want to say because her costume changed with these games. But then also a suicide squad, which I saw you dress up as do you have a favorite costume of hers? I think the first game is still my favorite that. I did. And I remember being at Comecon and seeing like a building of her in the new outfit and going whole the crap. I don't know if we can swear on this show. So. Okay. Crowley Harley in full. She's a building like she's huge like. Wow. And she's oh, hot and sexy and strong. And like, I don't know that was my that would have been my first choice for Harley causeway, but ended up doing I think a different one the first time, which was so much fun. Because normally at Comecon I can't walk from my hotel to the con- without people going strong later. But as Harley I could go anywhere because there's a million Harleys. And in fact, people wanted to take my picture because they liked the costume. And there was this one guy. That's a canoe took your picture. Harleys my favorite in. There's like thirteen I've taken today, and I said flooding, but MIS, and he goes, I don't know I've seen a lot of good ones. Like, I just couldn't wait for that guy to go home. And like make us iphone just a little bigger. It was so much fun to do that. I the time that'd be funny to be uploads in like facial recognition terrorist strong like on there. There was another. There was like a family that just happened. I love 'cause play families. It's cutest thing ever when they're all in cost you and like the mom was back girl. The daughter was raven. The boy was Ben ten. The other daughter was Harley, and I was with a director friend of mine, and the mom said we take a picture with my daughter. She's dressed as Harley, and I said sure, and like actually, let's do a family photo. And I said, okay, when I'm standing next to raven, and I go do, you know, do you know who I am? And she's like, I know who I am. And I go, okay, whatever. And she's like, yeah. Whatever like, they didn't know. Right. And then my director goes, you know, she voices all of you. Right. But she's our whole family, right? And they're like. Second air like just, but 'cause place so fun. Yeah. I always look I liked seeing when. Daniel Radcliffe was like spider. I think he walked around Spiderman. But since he had a mask on. Nobody knew. Yeah. That's the greatest myself much fun favorite is one year. Blake Blake Anderson for work a Hollick's was he just he wanted to go in and buy stuff, and he just put on a woven green masks. Yeah. And like I was like, but I could still see your hair. But I was like, I only know because I know it's you anyone who's that weird hair fun to just walk around the con in cognitive and be able to go anywhere and do anything as fun. If he was going to say we have to take another break. So that we can take a break and then wrap up with the future of Harley and and. And and you know, it's it's going to be a new segment, I call the gush session, and we'll go there. Founds. Good. We'll get to it. We'll see you after the break. Wait is that you're going to break a wh-? What did you want to do? I don't know just say, hey, so we'll we'll get into the movies. The future of Harley Quinn, oh wrap up, and that whatever we can keep that cheap and all of that. But we'll see y'all after the break. That's great. You know, people say necessity is the mother of invention. But that's not always true. Sometimes the mother of invention is advertising. Yeah. Or pure accident. How about ego maniacal delusion? Absolutely. Or just a desperate longing. To be cool. I'm Robert lamb, and I'm Joe McCormick. We're the host of the science podcasts stuff to blow your mind. And now we're branching off into the exploration of invention. Invention is the story of human history told one piece of technology at a time the things we made and how they made us invention publishes every Monday, listen and subscribe to invention on apple podcasts the iheartradio app or wherever you find your podcasts. And we're back in before we move on to current Harley. I just wanted to touch on for those of you that kind of thinking of where to start with her obviously the animated series, which was saying still holds up so beautifully. I feel like you could honestly freeze frame any part of that show and like make it a poster it's so pretty but another thing is her. She also appears Harley appears in the nineteen Ninety-four graphic novel. The Batman adventures mad love in that recounts, a lot of her origin story and also her, you know, her love with joker that relationship. You can see all of that in mad love. I actually just bought it. I'm really excited to podcasts of people talking about it. And it sounds amazing. So pick that up and yes, so now we have a heartily in suicide squad. She also is going to be in birds of prey my fans went ape when they found out. I wasn't playing her on camera. And I'm like, dude, I go on Twitter. I'm like. Margot Robbie is the hottest chick. And and she's a stunningly amazing actress, she's also a lot younger than mean, not valid vigor, but like like, let her shine. And she she's a star. Like, I if I pick her to play Harley like great, I understand that. But I would like Tara Harley Quinn. I I've said a million times, which I think would be really fun. I think they should put me Hemel in Conroy like in a booth at a diner like how you know Stanley doesn't. I think we need a little cameo. I mean, I think so. Oh, that'd be so fans. Go nuts. Yeah. Hopefully, totally I was reading I thought I read somewhere that you vote. You did like a little thing of Harley for aero. Yeah. Okay. So that was like hurt because people didn't really get to see her, right? He's all went nuts because they knew right away with my voice. And I was like you should put me on the show the fans would really like that. But anyway, it was just that one little went off without fun. Everybody, right. Make this happen. Four aero hashtag to the number for like, you know, Harleys a mom, and she has teenage boys or something like mom Harley. Clinger's what does Harley as a mom do like, she's still like likes to dress up and look hot? But then in the morning, she makes oatmeal like pain. Maybe she kicks ass at night. But during the day, she goes to PTA. Gosh, that would make a lot of sense. That would be such a clear run highly, you know, at home. She's like everyone have the breakfast, then she's like. Kick. Some maybe you know, there's too. I don't know you guys can totally pitch that stealing. Find me in an episode. Let's get cracking. I did want to say into sides. What did did like the fact that Harley was, you know, she still had her hopes and dreams when she was in love with joker. They had that law land sequence of her like with a baby. And I love that fact that like what Tara was saying that she's fully fleshed out. You know, she's not a one dimensional villain. She's a woman that had dreams of her own. She someone that has this love interest. She then like we said moves from a follower to a leader. She is she's a one woman show. Yeah. If he is this where you wanted to do your gush session before you let taraoke. I wanna individually just go down. I'm Debbie and thank you for each individually. Like, you know, been tin already. Yeah. Inspector. What were well? We have two more hours, right? I wanna tell tarot. So we had a Reese Wasser who's a transgender actress in supermodel come on. And she did are my little pony episode. And she was talking about how much your show the new animated show has affected her life. I hear that. It's so yeah. And we went over the history of it and Cutie marks and like just representation, and what it means to people. But that it is. She was really funny. She was like, you know, anytime feeling bad, and I can see a rainbow coming out of a ponies. But it makes me no, no, I meet like the hottest army brownies that like paint pinkie pie on their tanks and sing the songs to get them through crap in Afghanistan. That's why like and they're like hot. I know there's something really magical about that show that people really identify with. And the thing that I love about animation in general. But certainly my little pony is that you can be from anywhere. You're any color. You're any age any background like everybody's friends, and it's just like the inclusiveness of that show teaches such amazing less lessons, which we obviously need today. And and I I love that transgender people like feel like oh my God. I am relating to these characters. I love these shows because nobody is judged in these shows everybody's accepted in love. No matter what even the villains, right? Every pretty much every villain on my little ponies become a good guy. Like, you know. And I just I I don't understand bullying or hatred of any kind. So the fact that I'm in a show that in particular, particularly is inclusive and welcoming of everyone is like, and when I meet these people cons. It's you don't know what this show did for me it saved my life. I was aside alarms. Whatever means the world. To me. Yeah. Meant so dope. And I'm so happy. You could do that. I got one question. Another just random question. Are you able to pull any character people come up and go I love doing this blank character? Are you able to just like okay here? It is my gosh. That's how I know. You wanna ask for one? I don't have one in mind. I was just looking and I was like man what if somebody like came through like Talia in the animal crackers. I actually can do that one. Muraro animal crackers, by the way, is the most beautiful movie ever. And it hasn't come out yet because there's been so problems with the distribution that she talks like these. She's a beautiful girl. And it would be great to see this movie come out so perfect. I was break. Perfect in this movie mergers, meaning general, but okay. Well, was there anything you'd like to plug? Let people now where to find you. You can find me on all my social media at Tara strong. And just I mean, I I have some fun stuff coming up that. I would get fired. If I told you about right? Don't worry on your. Says postponed the only new thing I love people to check out is the new rocking bowl WinCo because it's hard to catch it it's on Amazon prime so people don't know where to find it. But this season in particular. So funny, we have weird Al and all kinds of great guests done. It's a really really funny great show and the new DC girls show that I'm doing with Laura fouls really and to play bat girl and Harley by the way, back to back is so much fun. And you're and Lauren is such a genius. I do think she's the reason pony such a successor. Just right works a different way. So getting to play both those characters. It's funny initially. She said to me, I I have some good news and some bad news. The good news is I want you to be back real great. Because anytime I look at a script and see background my heart's like so happy the bad has can't be Harley. I said why? And she said because I want back girl to live in Harley land, I want bat girl, hyper and crazy. And you know, she has no attention span. And she's all over the place that I'm just worried it's going. To be too close to Harley, and as you know, I had to kind of say I understand. But because I've played so many rations of Harley said do me favor bring me in and we'll do back girl. And then let me do five or six different Harleys beside it and see if we can still pull it off. And so we do the back row we set her voice, which is higher than any backer life done 'cause she's crazy crazy town. And then we start playing around with Harley, and I sort of had this inspiration to make her a little Brittany Murphy ish, and like that kind of clicked in to her. And so they heard that and they're like, okay. No more. We're done your and so to play them both back to back and yet another version of Harley was so fun. So check that show out to in. It's totally different than fun. That sounds so fun and exciting. You know, you know, me is should boy if you want anyway, I f y in w I d I v on Twitter and Instagram if dis on twitch speaking of which after you get that Amazon prime and watch all go through make sure you go ahead and connected to you twitch twitch crime zeldon coming through watch me play video games. And I love it. A lot of time jail talk about what we talked about on here. And we keep the conversation going. I like that you like that we all like that. Also, come to the discord salt squaw, discord dodgy G Ford slash salt squad and just go, you know, keep pumping, you know. And you stay stay stay Washington stories. You never know when there's trapped coming through. Gosh, he looked out people Bulent hit me out saying you slowing down on third straps like wealth. I gotta keep it surprising. I mean trail trail, I'm at msd any Fernandez and all the socials. I wrote in a book called the good immigrant that drops here in the US February nineteenth February nineteenth. It's a collection of. Of essays from actors and writers of color. It was super honored to be asked to be a part of these very talented people. So. Yeah. Pick it up or pre-order it you can pre-order it on Amazon coming out tight. Yeah. All right. Well. You know, we we usually do this. And we keep it going. So at the end of the show, we say state nerdy. You know, I guess since it's the Harley episode. Can we get a Harley Quinn, saying stay nerdy? Stay. Hi, I'm Ariel Casten. I'm Jonathan Strickland and together we're going to tell you the stories behind some of the biggest triumphs and failures in business. That's right. We're going to explore situations that tested the metal entre preneurs pivotal moments required making decisions we'll be talking about some big companies that everybody knows like Disney LEGO and Harley Davidson and together we try to answer the question. What do you do when you find yourself at the brink? Listen and subscribe at apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to your podcasts.

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"If the doctor build eagles show presented by neutral medical dot com call one eight eight six four zero welcome back as we have amazing little monsignor bogging writing for many years he lives on a government think tanks road reader's digest has written many books with craig smith i think this is the eighth in the series of books and he provides free by the way craig is a billionaire he's boxers business with neil cavuto every week and you guys wanna provide just good evidence and information so that the miracle of america continues which is not a socialist or communist middle america it's eight libertarian america were personal personal responsibility in the fact that none of us are created equal in terms of talent but we're all equal in the valley as the messiah guys and unfortunately socialist which now taken over the democratic party a an the evil of a communism ism which destroyed her mind people in the last century see the fall on deaf ears the people like bernie sanders laws and all now the democrats are luckily a donald trump understands that and anybody good business and we're gonna have a social safety net without destroying their underlying ability of a country like america to adapt through great new patterns of products to create new avenues of creation of new economy in fact if you think of the twenty first century this primary invented by americans wasn't ninety percent of the passenger american further twentyfirstcentury that we living now so a little tells about this latest paper you have which is quite amazing you actually publish some also on you're a main website a which i every week which is there a lot of articles and i think you you punish him down at a let me see if any looking at here it's a a wall street journal a new york times article you looked at where they published every week published a world world net daily yeah wmd which is one of the bigger website i think we have about ten and a half million breeders they're good good so i want the spread out by the way happy fourth of july week it fascinates me to to ponder that a lot of people who stayed loyal to the king revolution sin were given citizenship in canada which makes me wonder how you as as someone who raised canadians view the fourth of july but then the threatening holiday strange holiday how did it seem to you well i'm in america number one detroit and i my mama's brand north dakota every american relatives like in boston elsewhere 'em it didn't seem weird i think canadians had a kind of like they have that kind of comical afterwards was lucky media's from canada but socialism start off with good intentions just like they give you a little side story here a manitoba had raised people want to be more socialist and because you had doctors have decided they want to get a cheap insurance for their patients so they invented back in the nineteen sixties a health policy where people go by very cheap insurance wasn't expensive ticket basic services otherwise doctors were paid and chickens warning cash sure whatever the fees were not a deeper service system it wasn't a kind of a global government control and when they first start ended up healthcare is run by the doctors with very cheap insurance like you know somebody dollars a month very by you're at home visits by you're when you got home business and everything i mean it was amazing i mean people don't realize that you know the old a doctor and they were everything they need surgery they do rate they bring their blue black bag and they do raise and they see i remember a little of that and and also remember when you pull into a gas station and they would come rushing out to check all the fluids in your car wash your windshield charge you twenty five cents a gallon for gasoline and then give you a bonus of say half a dozen and beautifully made libby glasses glasses a sedative to keep you coming back to their gas station yeah exactly where a capitalist country right right now what happened is that as things mutated tated in canada and i see this 'cause i when i went to medical school nineteen seventythree healthcare it only served a few years earlier but as healthcare mutated a an both my parents were at the time living in halifax nova scotia my father had been working interpretation federal reserve jamal just a certified as well and as you've got exposed a lot of toxins from heavy water plants and and the pope and paper build and saw and it affected his health is hypertension and eventually had a heart attack and a blue host one side of the hearts of these other in hospital and they repaired the heart the heart surgery but instead of calling me they called my brother and instead of actually doing things and i wouldn't recommend it to try to reduce his heart damage weather's he enzyme injections or burke auction they gave a lethal injection of morphine the killer now a number of years later in a you know those people twelve years ago my mom had a stroke and she had liquor apps they all have their late eighties using her eighties at the time a she had a pontoon stroke and if i had my druthers 'cause i know lots of lots of skill sets i probably could've saved her life and ever recover you might have taken some time to recover but she would have recovered neural pathways and so on instead they called again my brother who's not a doctor and he authorized go ahead and give her a lethal injection which by the way they don't even got a committee had the same thing goes out of britain that little child nebraska year and a half two years ago where the child is gonna get care in italy and even the pope authorized italian citizenship a little salvage some kind of a either genetic problem her birthday failing health would not allow him to be taken out of england yeah he had a helicopter on the roof rated taken away and they ask you said he's physical armed guards a block the parents should take the child up the helicopter on the roof of the hospital i mean there's up saturday okay now i know there are alternative doctors in canada because i have colleagues up there but they get coffee persecuted a in nineteen eighty when i was working with doctor murray very all i did was dark agreement is a dentist you want to look into the toxicity of mercury so he contacted me through a friend of mine called doctor stage and more asking you knew i had a phd in advance chemistry in genetics and so on i before i went on about and so he asked me said bill canoe fight in any way of getting talks logical equations america and said yeah so i pulled up all my resources including the world health organization and talks logical information i just senator that we had in his office eight mercury steph meter and i'm michael volt meter cross the t's a matter of several months later i got a call from the registrar for the college of this surges a doctor diggle you are working in association of said well what does that mean you're working with a dentist i said there's no dentist in my office well you did i said what do you mean i said i gave equations to a dentist who's doing toxicology sexy working on his phd in dental pathology of university of calgary so they're actually harassing me again now things work in a because i was actually even giving equations i couldn't even they want but even work with chiropractors or natural passer anybody so a socialist top gun control system doesn't white ask questions like what do you mean doctor dig on you're not gonna get vaccines in fact as it goes on to some extent with big pharma here in america where two thousand three a drug rep payment of my opposites of doctor legal how's that you're a nice doctor i said well what do you mean seattle leading question right i said well how'd you know i mean i've seen you haven't seen you before willow drug represents such a company that sells oh court which is a drug to lower cholesterol is called an hiv clay reductive using ever i said well yeah so we're not prescribing drugs are competitor i said i don't see her swami at or your crystal ball and she said well here's a report said my gosh where'd you get that she said i got it from ohio i said i never practice ohio well they build it they said they used her dna numbers they used by dragging first but number ever do used by date of tracking so they could actually german what scripture i said i don't know you think this practices in the state medical board of colorado at the time or it's you're drug companies medical board a license but if it's not mine you could take whatever you think is your license you could follow it up and stick it rectory i said to her and i said you know what i said a well why she said my bosses thinking reporting it to the state licensing it's already and they could find you end or remove you're license for not providing these these drugs and said you're kidding i said you know have you ever seen the movie a doctor jekyll and mr hyde no i know i said if you read the book i said well doctor jekyll messing around with all kinds of weird stuff and they actually ingest it himself and he turns into mr hyde and all of a sudden the shoulders versus cbs's white jack you know doctor jacket and all of a sudden the skin turns green starts to grow hair in the palm of his hands this at the palm of my hand you're getting at you might wanna leave quickly and she's i thought you were a nice doctor we gave you treats popsicle sticks and free drugs apple says you know what if you're drug companies in control of my practice i don't have practice i'm just a drug salesman they've quickly before mr jackal shows up so that's just one vignette assembly of the hell doctored eagles have been through the exercise i could solve the health problem but the problem is trump deserves nobel prize and peace because he's against all these a either other right by the way gio pay globalist or on the left the democratic i called the demon rats same termed the judge purely is is on fox news on the weekend a so let's go suddenly announces what's going on here because this is pretty you know it's pretty obscene acts you win a library to you're facing something that's obviously not true is indeed not by the way trump of course all the great hero to all americans because he is in favor of this rate tried britain i remember when i was young my father will say drug smuggler from mexico which say he had been diagnosed with cancer the main treatments available lower drug is not available in the uss because the government had decided they were more harm than good or they write hated too much with the drug companies all my to my father had to go to mexico fortunately not far from where we left in order to buy why these trucks over the counter but they were readily available right any smuggle back into the united states but this is what americans were forced to thank thank goodness donald trump at least says if you've been diagnosed it'll disease near a few months from dying anyway why shouldn't you be allowed to take any drug you want well i had a gentleman on two and a half weeks ago on the program that she is drug company worked out a new vaccine against cancer taxi end genyk new vessels the cancer was to shoot max added extra cuts off the budget by cancer doesn't matter what kind of cancer this year the vaccine the body's immune cells will go at tax and bustle of cancer blood vessels which is really cool it doesn't actor it was just a cancer what so what people need understand there's all kinds of cheap at g c n may have great insight mac activation factors in the vaccine there's only one resources to looking at it from prostate but i get the vaccine for cancer but did no but tests in greece we have insult potentially the chemotherapy we have things like nah glaze reduction treatment where i if she can give you special epa genetic frequency cheap and i shared some by work with darker dan while a darker and darker royal in las vegas is proven with cancer markers to eliminate these accolades and cancer within two to four weeks of applying the combination of these tesla by ray machine ambiguous matt and so the technologies i recommended but i have i have genetic frequencies and ex lawyer michael is levels and blood tests the proven at eleven boston in a matter of to the four await leaders right now and this widow chemo or anything okay so what i see happening is that what they should do a switch doctors who narrowly wage wasn't just do their best and stop this idea that we think we're gonna have standard of care you know if it's not a legislative on thing is you don't people doing legal procedures but a lot of the procedures that can be done to help save you weather's regenerating and joined her killing cancer are non lethal nontoxic and they're safe in fact i've got a report that as starting shortly the major media companies like google and facebook i'm gonna ban anybody talking about natural medicine and cure the cancer andy cancer therapy and so on they're gonna block them from being on their search engines well if you think about it both large drug companies and the government if if suddenly someone like you were to develop the pills if people could take and they would not only be rid of any cancer in their system they would also lift to be a hundred forty the government would move heaven and earth to outlaw such a pill will already have the forty bill i got depend last week whether you an edge in the government trying to fund people who retire at age sixty five and then go on the list of two hundred and forty retirement of collecting government benefits the government would not like that at all i got an interesting story we might have mentioned it last year but in poland after the fall of the soviet union they want them a smoking cessation programs in there at actuaries action calculated if they stop smoking areas poland lift another four and a half years and then decided it was too expensive to keep 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demon rats a the fact that the media totally garner or bring up things were insane a they're still trying to redo z a mueller a commission fact i think we've i've changed the name of the mueller report to the mueller darcy eight 'cause it's just full of lies as a dossier both the russians and the steel and some people were paid off by the dnc the d i called d a the demon radic party a and the clintons of course the clintons are you know billionaire who hillary clinton is irrelevant even reported missing in this is over reports the gene cigar every so many weeks two weeks four weeks to her coven literally every which is covered in las angeles every a fly in from little rock arkansas so we have a number of people have died in your circle of circumstances rather clinton's ali at arkansas are after became president and we could see from the behavior hillary clinton this lady as no personality and she is evil as you could see what the democratic party try do drop i'm certain that durham and a they commissioned it's gonna happen with bar is going to start making a lot of people do the perp walk all the way from the department of justice the f b i steal end various people working in five ice mother agencies spying on us from new zealand then in britain this is gonna get ugly isn't it oh it is well if you wanna go back into the conspiracy theories of the clinton case my goodness they they actually had a medical condition named after it was called arkan side then it happened to forty four different people who were assume to potentially have some harmful information about the clinton says witnesses and so on but others forty four people i remember one was a declared suicide by the medical examiner who later was bill clinton and the surgeon general right and she found that he killed himself by shooting himself in the head five times five times five times by the way there's no gun partner review and have gotten that close you're gonna have gone part of the burns discover a forensic pathologist to i mean i've done you know this kind of thing so i could tell you that the the these people are involved with this including the coroner is a liar and a criminal well that that's a given in politics in any event my column this week was called jimmy carter's highway to hell at least that was my original title for it i think they changed it to donald trump deserves they nobel peace prize which is true enough but the point is jimmy carter a last friday was giving aid conference speech or interview if you will the for historian jon meacham had an audience and he said i think the russian interference although not yet quantified fully investigated would show the donald trump didn't actually win the election in twenty sixteen that's what the former democrat president jimmy carter rejected by the voters in nineteen eighty said trump lost the election and he was put into office because the russians interfered on his behalf said mr order now ninety four years of age does this means trump is an illegitimate president ask historian jon meacham based on what i just said which i can't retract jimmy carter i would say yes now as aaron blake apolitical politico reporter writing last friday the liberal washington post said many liberals trop proponents will probably be happy to see a former president's raising this issue because they do believe trump is a legitimate but you need to understand spent flip that means consciously or subconsciously liberals have eight deep reason for declaring donald trump legitimate and it's quite self evident if you think about it if donald trump won legitimately then that means the voters were rejecting the democratic party and its entire imperious increasingly socialist agenda right and left us believe that that cannot happen the voters love and what their agenda and therefore they only way the republicans can ever witnessed by cheating for example they call george w bush a legitimate in two thousand but of course to say that you have to four get the clinton appointed supreme court justice steven briar partly or worst part it'd be bipartisan majority who ruled in bush's favor in that election right that former vice president al gore lost not only because so florida but because he failed to win the clintons state of arkansas and he even lost tennessee his home state for voters who knew gore best overwhelmingly rejected him as a piece piece of dog dropping vaguely in the shape of the human being yeah in in twenty sixteen it's true shift of only eighty thousand votes in the combined state of wisconsin michigan pennsylvania could have elected democrat hillary clinton but were those votes shifted somehow by russia spending roughly one hundred thousand dollars barely enough this is fox news greg gut felt this to remodel one home kitchen but is that enough to cause trump's victory in a multibillion dollar campaign he's rushing age remember a some long before the election and half ran after it with roughly half the total ads supporting hillary clinton they appear not to have been intended to create a winner but merely the so discord to make things bad no matter who want her lost and that's the way russians have done it for decades interfering in our elections right by the way i did since nineteen eighty eight the communist party usa which was long funding to the tune of millions of dollars by the soviet union has directed its members to vote for democratic party candidate it doesn't run a tone candidates states anymore russian agents in twenty sixteen interfered with our democratic republic there's no doubt about that they did it by concocting democratic party fund the dossier used a smear unjustified spying donald trump and they help elect hillary clinton is that'd be interference being referred to a more importantly according to aaron blake who is i say was writing in the washington post about this these scams impact active trivial russian spending is basically unknowable there is no hard evidence proves russia changed a single vote in trump's favor or against hillary clinton the a n yet with all is that a is blake road the thing is jimmy carter said are quote probably not great for democracy unless you could truly proven labeling trumping illegitimate president is the kind of thing that could destabilize the country tree which as it happens wrote blake is precisely what vladimir putin and russia aim to do with their twenty sixteen interference quote in other words the democrats even now are doing the bidding of russia which i guess shouldn't surpri i already athletic national committee funded russia i think a lot of damage to the republican for example the first thing is that a i i told me even during the time with the dusty was reviewed by the mueller report a we have democrats believing in the nfl news committed by donald trump fifty seven percent believe those and felony majority of those still believes that he should be impeached which is insane okay people don't get this so what i see happening is pure insanity this is actually extremely dangerous it's also paralyzed trump so we can't make a trade deal to prevent war russia right now we are the whistle blowers myself in john w spring of russian hypersonic cruise missiles place in la or sheila island antilles that's near grenade aware of the ninety seven the russians did this before an important work day nicaragua where they have a two mile long runway but he ended up one twenty four jets dropped their launching platt more platforms intermediate range cruise missiles either the regular wonders hypersonic once the danger icy is that because of this trump is not been able taxi negotiate with russia to prevent read the possibility of an accidental it a use of nuclear weapons and looking in america with either nappy weapon in high space or attack near military bases are population centers as it accidentally triggered a world war three and we've even had stretched from bulletin do you want to start the cuban missile crisis he already has russia's even mood a their ships to havana and russia has right now donated visors down there but they're they're supporting the chinese will have thirty five thousand troops and and the cubans which are proxy of russia forty six thousand including the private guard of maduro any agreement that as long as the cuban museum is there they wanna get free oil from venezuela's keep the lights on so what i see happening they only thing is they were getting free oil even before they said that they only initially sent fourteen thousand cuban secret police right they help keep the door and company in place but that was because of this deal whereby cuba getting free oil the only thing they keep it truly economically float the thing i find is a rate now trump's got some bigger issues i think he a he should do eight oil blockade of venezuelan oil going to cuba is he won't poulter troops he should start threatening to pull the bank accounts in the swift transfer of the dacha money because everything they put in dozens of percents of every financial transaction in russia again he's a member of the former gree is the president's or director of the jerry you when russia a totalitarian police state of russia a dry pretenders religious which is a pile of garbage because he travels where they religious mung from the russian orthodox church but again potent is a dictator and his even jail or it'd be license people even opposed him in the election so of latin reporting his legal maniac he's not a rocket drinking self important maniac he's not stupid and he's very good at manipulating us and he must be laughing his head off of the democrats in many ways are doing his bidding by paralyzing america because he noted by the by the way without intending to even you were helping in the manipulation a few seconds ago you talked about how bad how many people in poll seemed to want to impeach trump but let me say let me say just a few words about polling in the united states right you understand that more than ninety percent of the people called by pulling companies never complete polling question there for the ninety percent of that republicans have always tend not to talk pollsters more the democrats the pollsters never acknowledge how many of the quarter ridiculously high percentage of the people well they call and trade a poll do not cooperate with their poll right a an today when you could lose your job you could be professionally attack twin you could be treated violent when you could be yelled at in your local restaurants and so so on if you were publicly identified as someone who's pro trump because he other side is gone over such tremendous violence and hatred right i understand if somebody calls you and said ducted eagle i'm a pollster from x y z polling company would you give me your opinion for a few minutes right you're first thought if you're a logical person is this guy isn't a pollster this guy is somebody just trying to gather information about me right if i proved to be pro trump i will be identified to god only knows what terror groups they're they're they're also doc seeing people boxing means they're releasing information to people like anti semitic income and tried to assault you're you're home right so so there are a lot of people who do not talk to pollsters where if they do they do not honestly say what they believe they're intimidated from saying that particularly any indication that they were pro trump so the polls are literally worthless they all had been largely worthless but they're literally worthless now because so many people are intimidated by the basically the people who talk pollsters to the extent that they are quote unquote harnessed are they millennials who still at eight thirty five are living in mom and dad's basement and have lots of free time to talk to people when rachel maddow is not on the left wing propaganda from msnbc to talk the pollsters that or welfare recipients but i repeat myself i've seen a couple of clips of rachel rachel maddow and it's like going to a psychiatric ward were locked down and there's one person let's do a lot talking among a group of people that's the rachel maddow indulge it's mental institution of alternative media and the left she's like an here's who was involved with these so called debates i couldn't believe it they ask you brought rachel maddow relegating someone neutral asking questions symbol any candidates oh sure about especially interesting is they were ask why won't you have the democrat debate on fox where they would have the act actually answer serious real questions by people who were not be ideological comrades right when the democrats to begin with and the democrat answer was oh fox isn't real news fox has opinion people online rachel maddow is not opinion purse that's all she is still the adults will be back in a moment with more from low ponti again you wanna get his this article again you go 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business like vixen flora's a legal legal judgment by the courts or fixing the border or setting up traded route now he's meeting with g twenty and a federal worker trade agreement with g and put in as they block eight against future possible thermonuclear scale her biological biological warfare a these democrats that she set up america it'd be just sale heaven they end up sitting and you just saw trump slapped down again by judge in oakland california by the way there are nearly seven hundred hundred such judges in the u s and every one of them believe they have the personnel authority to counter man anything the president's orders insane legal situation this this particular judge not only was appointed brock obama he also personally gave tens of thousands of dollars of campaign donations to brock obama that's how fair and objective the judges are in the united states today well i am one of the biggest problems in america is the judges in the legal system which is masonic it's it's globalist and it's left us in in this the same reason why the university's don't allow our tolerate them serve logical a logical evidence base side or biblical based ideas the constitution reflects the powers of attorney came from the creator god to us citizens and we delegated authority to elected officials in their proxies in their so called judiciary and elsewhere as a result this nation lose becoming a shadow of its former self is usa being systematically taken apart if it were not for trump's wealth experience and power a if they if he were able lesser person like a chip bush or any of those pygmies who might have been elected instead we simply be run over as with a flat her on a road support a but no thanks to trump he took a stand against them but hold on but but remember he only has a few years left even if he's reelected they're expecting that can outlive trap as long as they can neutralize legally what he's trying to do and they're doing that to the best of their or the the worst of their ability if you will by the way by jimmy carter i hope people understand the jimmy carter is one of these centers is evil in the modern world why i wrote about it is that real seriously study jimmy carter wants to vomit constantly to begin with carter started as governor of georgia how did they the lowly governor of georgia ever become precedent very simple time magazine did not one not to but for cover stories on him into a national celebrity otherwise jimmy carter was nobody except the descendant of former slave owners a jimmy carter then proceeded to a to go ahead and governor for years he proved to be well the major contender iraq obama to the title worst precedent in american history and domestic policy jimmy carter gave america among many other things malaise it gave us a oh what was a standard of horror evily comically oh it he created community reinvestment act people who don't understand the community reinvestment act which was promoted by acorn the same radical left wing group of which bill clinton pardon me brock obama wasn't employee is a community activist this acorn we had the president's goto bankers and say you know we have tremendous regulatory power over you bankers and if any one of you doesn't do what we want we can't destroy you make it legally possible for you to compete against other bankers and what do we want you to do oh we want you to give mortgages to literally millions of people who were not credit worthy because they're illegal alien because their other groups favored by the democratic party we want to give some all mortgages so the go to the bank usa intimidated that way gay they is astronomical amount of money in the form of illegal or improper mortgages to people and then tried to cover it self by finding some way to legalize and sell these mortgages before they got stuck with what they knew is a bad investment yeah what did you combine those markets back security disney yeah they found a backing companies they would authorize approve mortgages they'd given if bundled bundled a lot of very bad mortgage paper they they bankrupted virtually iceland scott norway and several other countries said boy heavily into this mortgage paper which turned out to be not worth a whole lot but that was jimmy carter in other words jimmy carter largely brought down economy of the united states in two thousand eight two thousand nine he wasn't president leap basis by this kind of a distribution of wealth in the country through regulation through the threat to destroy banks you also just a couple of other bad things tied directly back to iran well he he did that with domestic policy understand i'm dividing these that way mastic policy and he comics in foreign policy he was even worse in foreign policy perhaps the single worst thing jimmy carter did and there were many horrible horrible things he did he's the reason north korea has nuclear weapons example but he was sent as a special emissary of president bill clinton clinton gave him express orders do not say anything to north korea but in any way allows them to have nuclear weapons carter went there and immediately thinking he was the great savior of the world a told north korea they could have nuclear weapons if they would just cooperate with jimmy carter is responsible for north korea heavy nukes also responsible for he ran in the worst possible way when jimmy carter with the president's iran was the bulwark of you ask power and influence in the middle east not saudi arabia not is real iran iran was also the country they kept israel afloat there any arable oil embargoes remember they're not arabs there persians right a show very friendly u s this show is giving rates to women doing all kinds of things not approve of india muslim countries semi arab countries a buzzsaw did have a few minor flaws jimmy carter found intolerable one it said he was imprisoning and torturing about three thousand agents who had been caught coming across the border from from the soviet union to subvert iran i told you is very nice those people so jimmy carter said oh you're violating human rights how terrible just by the way with seo fischel communist line worldwide tonight and so jimmy carter turn to the cia and said i know you have been giving the mola's the people who run all be islam ick faith centers in the country a total of about four million dollars a year in bribes right just so they don't attack the show well i'm going to cut off that four million dollars right now in the cia looked at him and said are you crazy per almost nothing were maintaining piece in iran right carter said no i'm going to do what human rights demand he cut it off there wasn't immediate uprising taking the moola from the lewis's or right and as result uprising overthrew the shah of iran by the way they all gone whole is who we now see running the government rushed in to take over to take power by the way the very first thing they did upon taking power before they even captured u s a diplomatic personnel and held up four hundred and forty four days the first thing they told us did was to bring out the three thousand political prisoners who were soviet agents agents light them up against the wall and shoot wow so all those people whose human rights jimmy carter was protecting they all died immediately as the foot carter did what else did carter do without the shaw there we had iran iraq war erupt award the killed more than half a million people that would never have happened if the show had been in power the soviets invaded afghanistan next door that never would have happened if the show had been in power a in response to the soviets going into afghanistan they were countered by various arab terrorist group one of which was all tied up which learned all its terror tactics during that war fighting the soviets a out of that war which became a dead at five west radical factions in india slama creepy in this area like afghanistan a kind of then turned and attack the world trade center and the pentagon killing more than about three thousand americans on nine eleven the blood from things like nine eleven is on jimmy carter's hand well he's bernie has not been so incompetent stupid in arrogant a none of that would have happened what part part of that's part of it does there's a few other little things when i have friends in iran when i traveled for years ago to portland he actually only a these these the company the drove us back and forth airport had extensive discussions with them they she gave me video showing that the sad especially like the division cia brought in the ayatollah khamenei and even copies is audiotape so when they arrived even these sad and they see i told the military in iran to stand down not interfere shot with with e i told her arrive in so not only did the cia and curtis ordered removed a shot but see i told him either come cooperatively ever gonna kill you what you did google cooperatively but we put in ayatollah animal this week america through the cia and said oh by the way this is all jimmy carter remember the by the way we craig smith and as you mentioned right about this the kind of politics you see in the kind of manipulation you see it in the world in the book money morality in the machine you're listeners can get a copy absolutely free at postpaid will not cost you twenty dollars you'd have to pay the amazon all you do is call the toll free number eight hundred six three zero fourteen team ninety two like deer columbus sailed the ocean blue that's eight hundred six three fourteen ninety two and you could get the book and it will not cost benny so i know they agreed that the get an idea how politics shaping up in the world today day but the point is jimmy carter was by any standard a monster now what is in and that late the whole basis forgiving nuclear weapons to these soviet ally of the russian ally iran which is what it's become right but also by the way in the middle east also a during his time at the start the whole process of getting to material to ask you kwan in pakistan and there was there a steady plant there which now producers not the largest nuclear warheads but more per month any other nations including american russia was there is dead northwestern pakistan people don't understand what's going on here is we have done a lot of good in the world but we also do a lot of evil and and by the way a afghanistan is largely controlled by the secret police from pakistan right exactly what happens to be pro a pro the students and so on the taliban but i mean this is the kind of world in which we now lives and if people don't understand just think the jimmy carter was given a nobel prize by a left wing committee in scandinavia whose leaders said oh were giving this prize and then use the slang expression that meant to keep you in the united states to score in the united states politically that's the way we gave jimmy carter that's probably why they get when they turn after the bronco bama got elected they did the same thing the game the president's lesson two weeks after he got elected the first term within eleven days yeah he was awarded the prize of his first administration and we know that because of the fear procedure that how long it would have taken so anyway it's matt i got a i got a joke for you though you might like it make you laugh 'cause this is all serious stuff okay i heard a young person as a teenager who said when they heard the news the brock obama got nobel peace prize in a news article picked it up and said oh what do you think in in the kids said oh he got the nobel peace prize because i like his smile the nobel and that's what it is but that donald trump is trying to defend the a nuclear weapon to north korea and other sought by iran both of which were lazy base by jimmy carter he's prize winner his hands dripping with blood trump is trying to do that he's being attacked for it amazing steering

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Bad Taste  Episode 001

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Bad Taste Episode 001

"Girl episode we wanted to pick a film that would inspire filmmakers showcase success story so today we're talking about bad taste film by the Great Peter Welcome to the first episode of Bravo for the B side our weekly podcast where we discussed B. Movies and what we can learn from them her or hello blind I just read we did we would not no in fact that they're part of the National Aerospace Defense League of New Zealand but yeah let's let's jump into this self wearing so when the movie starts of dismembered fingers being used for various press buttons and there's like a cigarette band nineteen eighty-seven directed by the one and only Peter Jackson written by Peter Jackson. Tony Hiles Ken Hammon starring report of this is a big run on sentence a report of landing UFO's and take on a battalion sized welcome to Bravo for the B side we are Jim and Danny Owners of according to IMDB is four dimwitted men from the New Zealand National Air and Space Defense League arrive in a small New Zealand fishing town to investigate ever rated The budget was about two hundred thousand New Zealand dollars the equivalent of that today in US dollars so then yeah they're listening to these random calls and then we cut to a phone booth yep in the middle of nowhere and there's this would be about two hundred and fifty thousand in nineteen eighty seven that was about one hundred thousand US dollars so the log line for this movie breath right yeah but I don't know why and spoiler alert none of this boards of Mistral productions and your host for this podcast Blue Ruin the movie that we're discussing today is bad taste it was made is is addressed discussed anywhere else in the movie so you won't know the answer to this either listening to this podcast if it weren't for the long long long it's it's kind of a disjointed thing going on it's it's almost it's not really montages just cut scenes you hear some what are like nine one one calls I don't know why and these weird silhouetted figures like spooks obviously in a full five second shot of a portrait of Queen Liz taped to the cigarette is sitting at the tip of a suburb finger and there's a band-aid holding on there and coming in and just you know various being Lia- going and then they cut to another one in through the whole thing it's just different cut shots that for a log line that's were the you know we can talk about that Lawrence point to remember log lines Harry Potter Pete o'hearn Craig Smith and also Peter Jackson indeed there is a lot of Peter Jackson going on in this movie it was not elephone dangling from a telephone wire just you know why not sure and then we get introduced to army of aliens who have massacred the town's population as part of their plans to use humans as part of their main ingredient for their intergalactic fast food chain house well I don't know if he's the lead one of our foursome share barry and Berry thing So yeah this is a New Zealand film and I fully understand dusters I've never seen a hip length duster a lot a little bit and it's like where it's the rest of this means duster what happened but the aliens took it maybe well I don't know maybe it's like the Zombie thing and then we get to see that the blonde blue shirt guy is carrying an axe he doesn't look like a dental can do it and I'm not doing a man bun no so berry right walking along a deserted street and and then he gives them a headshot and his glorious yeah it just completely from the bridge of the nose the you you put it best why don't you describe it looks kind of like a dollar store redneck bumbling highland or parody it's amaz- really great and the guy you know falls down at Berries feet and at and you can tell a dummy knows ambience supposed to have long hair which I would be done yeah you had a big grab your hair and I'm not cutting this for any you'd have to man but it up Yeah blondie blue shirt is still still there right Yup and this is the point where berry decides to pull out a pistol as one thing that everything in this is practical effects because eighties and everything before there was nothing super fancy no seats then we began introduced to our necks person Derrick Derrick then we see he's being followed by some really bleached blond fellow inability sharing a blue shirt and he's not moving fast now so he shoots the guy is a couple of body shots and apparently nothing happens in buried doesn't look he could move fast but he isn't moving fast so I don't know maybe that's just because he can't write any sort of half hearted he's got this like this white goober on his this it's like he was frothing in it yeah went right down the middle of his chin and dried goes up the head goes there are copious amounts of blood there are is a shot of brain matter hitting the rocks yeah you know and see I and this is a low budget but it was really cool though it did look really cool it was it was you know blood buckets and Kelly overdid the job and that's not PG kids it's not the I'm sorry it with all the get the sense that okay this town is something it's it's emptier everyone's hiding or something don't really like play it out and deadly telling you stop shove off you know go and then he'll take a few steps and then Bam suddenly on the beach that's important in a second oh yeah yeah okay so but one of the most disturbing things is when we cut to derrick right tape everything and then he's got what's left of a Oh maybe a walkie talkie or something yeah oh external Mike Mandating Zombie like a little bit yeah and I bet that as we get further in it'll cover some disjointed it through this ridiculous set up right so embarrassed got a standard walkie-talkie so that helps no he doesn't he has his has the external get up I mean everything about this post apocalyptic in it's like is just one little thing happening and it's all presidents together as well Gore and everything else going on in this film that is the one that actually made my skin crawl and and we saw another as later in the now I think that you're putting it kindly will yeah it looks like he just came from the Senate as a fluffer for something else and I I thought Jesus Christ Derek's come through so I don't know what who is Peter Jackson yeah and I had no idea he looks so he doesn't look anything now he did when he was that young no so editing issues and you WanNa talk about company later but anyway let's let's keep going Yeah Okay so we have Frost Wolf Elm Terry shoot that scene probably not I mean you know two hundred thousand dollars in the or even two hundred and fifty in today's dollars a lot of money but it's not nineteen eighty-seven Gay Pete was was really thin you is he wasn't sporting the beard now in the stash and everything so eighties glasses Taylor it is and there's apparently oh there's we see a rope to post running down along the rock the the push-button Mike for for a walkie talkie and he's you know his own glad I don't have to clean that up and we learned that he's talking to Berry is moving right 'cause we've had we've had apparently enough of Berry and Derek at this point now we cut to some other guy he's got like a a a little speaker will for attached to a wire hanging in it's kind of like close to his ear and it's on this that's all like masking tape scotch tape duct Derek and They have a little bit of an exchange you know and it Kinda starts to set things up not really but what we mostly them joking around we there's another little lakes flew g there is but we saw we that will be talking about it I'm thinking maybe cop we saw we saw something recently superbeing coke bottom I mean that may have been costume but I don't think it was oh well he does wear glasses so we're but we cut to to him and the one of the so he's got this from the shoulders it's like hi amy nice cool does so he's got the the shoulder flaps on here you know and because I have a duster but then we top of it I've got it and then of course a door opens behind him and like eight arms come out you just pooped your Mike I did I'm excited we're building up to another slow moving chase but it's pretty nice so yeah well that happens now cut to what can only be described as the cool and we have no introduction nothing he is just merrily driving along in what I can only call Mr Bean car now if you know in Australia and England and New Zealand yeah that's how I navigate when God don't tell me this so now we come back aversion of a Chevy just you know it's so he's just drive along as tiny little her Mr Bean car and he stops they come out and grab him and pull him inside so that's GonNa take us to okay yes frank's car ozzy's the long curly haired fellow fellow with long earlier okay right so does have to do with the narrative what is going on because we cut away when we come back it's gone so like wow we're talking to bury maybe he can afford another they all have these those little cars I mean that's like a not even mini's there just something like there were a really ubiquitous car in that era probably probably the heavy metal music which was made for the film so yeah we don't get any like any kind of pop culture and this is a Ford of some sort night I didn't get to find what the model is but it looks like it's it's it it looks like a Ford Pinto us fat oh I think it just it it needs to be talked about because I'm trying to figure out in you know maybe someone will figure this out and email us one day what did position with Derek that's when we learned that that at the end of that rope Derek has a hostage yeah he has that's not a pinto because they didn't have those there but it looks like a Ford Pinto that has been pimped to the Max in terms of nineteen eighty seven and again it looks like something out of Mad Max yeah all these people are his friends I mean that's what he did in New Zealand p Jackson did what the smart thing got everybody together it's a New Zealand film shot in New Zealand but there are some moments when when frank whatever re members of this team right I'm glad you caught their names I had no I never once figured out what their names are but I guess they're Franken Ozzy Dangling by his ankles over the cliff okay so there's a bit of an exchange here's a here's some of the things I'm GonNa talk about it's in this scene right now and that's one thing is this is film it's yes so these are film canisters in these roles that are doing this on so I would imagine because it's this like post apocalyptic looking sports car and they're just drumming along I don't know where from I don't know what they were doing but they're blasting the requisite man all right but we'll talk about that later so they had some kind of conversation now while they're drumming along and and and then it goes over the edge we don't see what's there that's important yeah it's just kind of weird random at the moment because everything up to this minute we're five minutes in in you know so then we get we get to go back to Berry Barry's got a bit of a predicament Berry has locked himself in a tool shed yeah and I love this garden sheds so fun Aijun of New Zealand he's from his accent is so thick oh my it's just like all of a sudden mouth they do let us know that they're about forty five minutes out so again these are four people working as a team or this government agency to deal with these aliens who sure attachment now you know which is fine because he couldn't before the rights rain to any music if music well blue shirt hostage by the way all the aliens in this movie where blue shirts and then we'll play you know the aliens are for no so yeah it's the Blue Shirt Brigade and he's got one Oughta map and in big black magic marker there's the name of the town that burying derycker in and he slams his finger on it in a way he goes that's all we dan so he's coming along and are coming past the window he's a little bit of music invokes and everything after this minute has just been weird and random but you know it's like Allah whatever sure rope okay so to keep things are they gonna find him and then all of a sudden he makes a sound boom up got their attention very much like zombies and the lamarcus unintelligible right in it's funny because there's a part where we're ozzy starts laughing and Derek I'm like oh he just got dissed what did I miss want in and this is the part you love so these these geniuses right there an improvised battering Ram it's so small we have no concept of where they came from how long they've been here what's going on none of this has been given to us yet been set up with a forty five minutes away for some reason hammering a knife into the heel of the the hostage this thing looks like a world to Burian and Derek in their deserted town and Derek Warns Berry that there might be blue shirts in town bears like don't worry about it and takes them a second oh we can get this guy so in they go right back to Derrick for the state you don't need to actually act they just need to sit there yup we need faces and Butts and chairs so there are cruising along and they have doug and start hitting the door with his head and it's working because because berries you know he's got a hard head up art do exit the US one of their friends as the battering ram arms and legs I came up like Yep Yep done and Berry with Super Gusto watches towards them but he's caught the back of his eating I want to get this like real dose so He's hammering this thing in I thought he'd be frothing but he wasn't you know and all are the reasons you can't tell it's him is because he has he standing on a cliff the appears to be looking out watching berry situation and he's talking to him through this ridiculous shoulder mounted yeah yeah so he falls his feet and then what's left his skull dumps the brain out right right and driving at a high rate of speed yes so clearly crops gorgeous New Zealand landscape coming from the other side of the island mini mini on a rake and slams him back into the wall so now he's just you know Berry Bait Yeah I'm GonNa have to get ready so he positions himself inside and he's just ready to go in this door bursts open so the door goes open they drop their friend order to bayonet and this knife is gotta be fourteen inches the blade has fourteen inches long almost like a Roman sword it's just impractical thing to keep in one's backpack this backpack is the best we're going to hear more about the backpack but this thing is great this is like for all of you d players this is like a bag of holding or bag many things it's what do I need for all kinds of stuff it's everything's Derek needs is in the backpack it is ram so really his head is the weapon here so off they go right you know we didn't know that's what we did for our movie were like hey guys now on some people who could act yeah and then like we need a restaurant full of people so problem we've got cousins and brothers and it well except for that but don't give that away we'll get to this chainsaw common people so yeah he's go and outside of this garden shed is for some reason in rates of hammers sledgehammers radio straight off so he goes to pick up the the external mic talking into realizes here's where I kind of lost track of things and it so berry tries to warn Derek right at some point berry between his conversation so barack stops hammering signed aradio Derek in his radio I guess doesn't work without the external mic because the court was ripped off yeah one of the yeah right there's like five of them so they're six guys because the sky is the battering ram so the five of them right get their hammer he's looking out and he's doing you know his doing his job he's hiding right we don't know what happened to all the arms that pulled him inside of the tool shed somehow they ended up outside yeah right magically loser brigade had it and we seem drop it yeah on the win he got it but anyway one of the drops it so berries out running and also I don't see him lose the lattes Derek know that they're coming now this is where the first real real showdown begins this is the kind of hammer I used to get as a kid when they used to give kids of ages five and six an actual set of real tools but super tiny you know yeah real saw pliers will hammer with claw end because what could go wrong it's still a hammer it is and you know what he was the battery all of a sudden this this captive blueshirts starts ski well certainly found an extra sound it didn't sound like it was that piercing no plugged in goes to plug it in while as radio's not there and then he looks like ten feet behind him on the ground so he goes and puts it all together brigade that's going after Berry so they just kind of like drop everything yeah they like his third berry yeah we gotta move so the group of them listen all right we ready do this let's go all right bring it on it's over there and he looks confused because there's nothing and then we see like a bit of emotion he finds his tool and he picks up a hammer it's a real hammer yes but it is literally what would you say maybe just hall it's like we have in our tool we have a regular hammer and then we have like a little humor also smaller it's kind of like a screeching but it wasn't loud I don't know quite what was apparently it carried yeah because it caught the attention of our blue with Derek and the Guy Blue Shirt brigade yeah yeah getting him he lost his external microphone which apparently is important because he was long names he throws open his backpack war right now this looks at little rucksack your pet like mine but it's in Mary poppins backpack it is because outfalls in the salt rifle and he picks it up and member dirty pick it up and they start moving a little quicker which was a little less his how was before but the other took up the pace a little bit nudity off the go past the shed so the battering Ram Guy Hammering this thing in I can't understand what he's saying An- always seen it a couple times I still and I don't have I don't have the heart to turn uncles captioning let's just Anita Jackson solid has got to be some kind of latent desire to live the life of a video the old game he has for no reason whatsoever he just starts blasting the trees and we have lots of great show starts flailing he's getting the whole thing confuses him long enough for Derek the rain and he's not on the ground below so he's just gone so anyway dirks hanging there and part exactly so derek rages into what had been years of training for this government agency and he holds the climbing down he gets towards the end and realizes there's no alien there so somehow this alien got away dangling off a cliff he slipped the the foot news so Derek shoves the gun through the whole of Kitty Hammer alien and just starts going to town yeah he just run back to his pack start emptying more stuff out on the ground finding another clip finding another clip at which point when he gets the clip than Kitty Hammer alien but yeah the then the appear after he's out so here they come and brings it home he does yeah and I feel like that must've been so fun for Peter Jackson to do but he runs out of Animal Yep right yeah right I don't know about this but it happened right so he starts here come the hammer guys right now this is like the best series of events right but he unloads an entire clip just into the trees there aren't even any blue shirt alien is they're not even a sound not even creepy music he's just like right then and he asked to bolt right so what does he do he bolts to the cliff he starts climbing down the rope the end of which is the hostage hostage gun and he literally goes up Papa Papa Papa Papa making the sounds with his mouth and Kitty Hammer Mer guys there and you know law goes on I'm surprised Derrick Oh man this is Rube Goldberg at it's so we have the aliens with Hammers China Swing and hit him he manages to and then two of the heavy hammer aliens sledgehammer guys come ends up spilling his ammo on the ground from his backpack let's not in the clips well you know what yes so this is this is a great part happens like all these kinds of movies so well I Kitty Hammer Guy Somehow managed to flank him the edge of a cliff there's really well he eric's without bullets because he just emptied his clip into the trees so what does he do Jim it will he's from me to you I know within arm's reach right right we're only like two feet shooting the only way up the cliff is through the trees yeah right behind him is nothing but just jerry cliff face yeah seventy eight hundred feet down to the ocean and Somehow Kitty right which is great because then by that time here comes the Sledgehammer Brigade your blue shirts right they're plugging up and they're ready to do some damage figures out oh I haven't been shot is off he goes comes Adam and Derek promptly blows a hole right through it took another right so what ultimately happens is as Derek is dealing with his guys he's he looks over try so that you know all right we're down we're down one and then all of a sudden we cut to bury who is just randomly and he's like there's a little bit of a kerfuffle and Derek falls in this is awesome you get a clip that had somehow fallen down the cliff and was just outta reach over to advance to get put in his gun and shoots and the ultimate squish sound yeah and were done with Derek you just see his little legs dangling off of the lake thing that he cut now we are back to Mr Bean Car Yeah so Mr Bean car driver arrives at some houses along the beach the cliff when they're chasing him and one of them falls down and the other stops in this kind of like it's okay buddy I'll help you up very friendly alien was raising the hammer the hammer goes back and hits the alien his friend behind him in lodges in his head with an appropriate amount of blood and squish right eric shoots the arm off of the hammer holding alien right and at this point it's too much for the other alien this whole hammer thing making his way through some trees somewhere not the same shots of trees that we saw the sledgehammer group now going through barriers just running off through the woods and the shrubs sticking out of the side of the clip is the captured alien who doesn't say anything in this whole film none of them really do know leaders only want to speak yeah is a bag that says beneficial relief emergency aid division and it's in one word on top of the other so the the letters screen now my assumption was that he was trying to go towards Derek because he couldn't warn Derek but he'd never really gets there was what I thought too who doesn't look like it's really the same town but hey you know just weird and so he gets out in him I just came from a chair in the hallway down it's bouncing but it's awesome because when it hits there is this founding of blood and and a ultimately one of the Blue Shirt Brigade aliens comes after him and another slow lumbering but again we saw the aliens yeah big off into the woods and he was in completely different set so but it was it was just like hey there's berry rented the woods the the wide shot of him falling down is they found a why but he's in a sitting position it's like they got a cheer dummy like a Priest priest collar which doesn't all but don't priest wears oh winged collar I would know we're all of a sudden back to bury who's is on the horn letting Franken oaten frank ozzy no that Derek gone right and I just a red shirt basically I don't know I don't know what his whole point in this film was it well you know Pete had five friends doc his limbering up is if you've ever seen monty python and the holy grail you know it's the scene of like Lancelot running up to the now and frank says yeah he loved his birds and then we cut to a shot of Derek's body just being ravaged by Siegel's yes looking and picking him apart I love that and then also back to the Bregman you know They said he's thieving only a gift because what he does is he rips like one of the white handles off of the bag off his tie shove shirt collar to make it look it doesn't happen so anyway he's going around and apparently this is a don't charity that has nothing to do with the film now but he's he's early elaborate backstory for this character this bread man would that essentially it's it's kind of a necessary because I mean he's he's then there's still an obscene Franken car so ozzy looks to frank and says who's going to look after his aviary and then so now but the other won't let go though he's got his hammer the end of its in his friends had in the kind of tooling around so journey from house to where he parked his car just down the road from the houses and so he gets into his little bean mobile and sure why not really wanted to be in a movie so once they see him stealing landed on the big rock his legs bill over the Yes squat I can't make that sound a wish you could yeah I'm not down your eyes bread bread with their means the spend a lotta time we see that a lot of that yeah they keep going back to it so he he's it I get the feeling like carrying just their own head his too much it is but you know there's a moment right before Derek goes off the and trying to wiggle nice that Bradman yeah and Bradman finally gets the car started takes off and ultimately arm comes out of the window and the the windows almost but not enough and he gets his army so we have some tension and he's got a knife right beautiful seventies plaid jacket and sprays breath freshener pilfering people's of Peter's envelopes he's collecting from these houses that have money at him for this agency yeah there's just some random thief he's just taking on the main up this in an I love this part he he gets to the door pam him him ambient sounds like someone's coming he steps back reaches into his his and I don't know what we call this poor guy x hostage he'll hammered alien hammer foot I mean so fucking dumb that you wonder how did the but then the like get it together so he can't figure out how to open the car door now but he does they can't figure out how to open the door and here's here's the thing folks this is one of the consistency issues the the they're like Bona stupid you know they're known to catch so I don't know okay so hammer foot I love it so him reports following him down the road okay and the top speed of this car is like five to seven dollar blue and back to the show thing so Bradman's stopped being mobile and run son he can't roll up the window this thing becomes super difficult yet they spend like three minute long seen him trying to roll up the window he's just the the editing reminded me of Monty Python's and now for something completely different were they would just randomly cut too so as he breaks the window Bregman it's distracted on the porch right turns around just the right time and then this hefty town where it's just it will then as he gets closer than we see that this is the alien that was dangling off the cliff that had the giant Gra comes lumbering Alien Death Don Don Don becomes and so we can almost Maybe and I wrote a script with four People WanNa do oh I'll just scribble him in you're going to go in and still charity money yeah it's hard hit to crank it up to fifteen miles an hour I know which was his leg probably too much because we suddenly come back to Berry who has just it's these pulling them log right Jason Lewis and then at some point just before we cut away we hear him his second year back to Berry who somehow has caught up to all his madness because he witnesses happened and Radios Ozzie and frank who still are not there I know like doing something in the weeds yeah and then we're back to bread man we know berries doing he's out mucking around so much wherewithal to go find a rocket smashed the window right which and he also had the wherewithal to escape the foot news that was holding him over the cliff somehow then we cut away and were backed bread man who looks like something out of bugs bunny he's in a pot tied up vegetables and he has the most lines out of anyone in this film I feel like even more than all the main characters because they have maybe like two or three words at a time you know this is in the middle of nowhere and he runs a gorgeous big house right beautiful yard and everything Yup and so he's trying to get help the hand alien comes in right yeah and goes into this long diatribe on how he's dinner they love human flesh and really doesn't explain calls and things he's GonNa be a stew folks he's dinner That was the first thing I thought about bugs bunny yeah he always gets in this same as the other blue shirts will also has his apron which race no yeah so now we're situation so then all of a sudden radically throughout the film but this guy he can actually act you can I mean he does a great job delivering this this is Yup so look out for principal alien yeah he and he probably got the majority of the budget to his paycheck chef and his big guy dressed as a chef comes in and has a mallet in his hand and just put them down he has a blue shirt too but it's not the I want to add that one past me that breath sprang so the door opens and here in their car because up until this point they haven't been they haven't hit the hammer it hasn't been enough of a rush no so all of a sudden who way this is all taking place in this man of less than forty five minutes apparently I know it's ridiculous so tells it was so ridiculous it but it was it was done to perfection this ridiculous thing and then we're back Franken Ozzie who have now finally arrived the we cut to the escapes to to hammer foot who has called with the car right and he sees the knife that he had dropped laying much more but he talks a lot that's the other thing this guy talks so much well here's the thing and I have I made note of this the lead alien caught up with Berry finally finally in the route to find the Bradman Yeah Gang for no reason ozzy of frank that there's trouble that's all he says we've got trouble in apparently they know what that means well that prompts them to get into I think fourth the sudden right so we all know this going on and then Lo and behold we cut back to derrick he's not yet eric lives Derek live especially later on we'll get to this big soliloquy that of nothing what it really does it well his voice is really good he's he's the one good actor in this film couldn't like hey we need a mannequin why got one that's sitting down good enough got damaged pouring bring it up as bent as if he's sitting no so his legs Dan he looks like a middle school principal with a broomstick like stick up his ass that's for yeah above okay I just love that so reduced right you you you don't WanNa have had breath when you're asking people to rescue you hash take Derek lives yes you'll his eyes he sits up and some of his brain falls out the back of his head because he's got this big hinged flap hidden why would they hide their car so far nothing about this approximity none of this made any sense it could have been I'll give it to them no that Berry saw the bright man get taken in here's the funny thing about this movie right if aliens invaded I think one it and then hide in the weeds and wait for Derek to be there was weezer him to thread door especially a car door especially this little bean mobile thing some birds that he clashed as he fell and and for some reason we had to take a moment as he's like what I do Kinda thing and Knife hammered into his foot so not only is he moving slow skimping you know and so by the time he reaches the car it's excellent that's how you put a brain back together I can't think of any other way especially on the go so shoes the birds away gets the rest of his brain and then as he gets up he's a little horrified because he crushed some birth underneath it all and skin so he's like well this is no good up his brains lift a little flap sticks it in the back of his at I love it Oh my God but it keeps his head flap in place right tips brains in so was it a deserted car I was under the impression that it was Derek's car only it was randomly we we Ozzy and frank are all on board to go with Berry and then we come back to Derrick who's stumping along holding his head flap in place I believe it I buy and what's really funny is this whole scene has really slowed with these these things then worrying about some sort of like you know a jailbreak you know like the rock yeah when he finds this deserted car in pulls a rummages through it and pulls out a top hat slips the top and it's just so ridiculous so we don't have the high pumping heroes kick ass moment we have the soft music now they're fighting aliens thank their problem mister x car any hit it I don't know listeners you can decide watch and decide for yourselves but he seems surprised at finding the top hat we wouldn't we'll talk about the cuts and stuff in this in a bit so they get to Ozzy frank's car then he faints Sir falls over is is he's he's donald it was more Sophia ran in a perfume commercial the agency in all these weapons and yet these geniuses decided to put on Bollock Lavas yeah and if people don't know what the the actual name Bhalla is is to ski mask right there called Balaclavas and they put on Mhm and like just Patrick swayze and Demi Moore and ghost only instead of playing with pottery you know here's a rocket launcher going to put the end of the don't I mean that's the first thing I think of you know it's almost like if you survive a death defying accident forcing you think of his or majority Glean because I don't you know we you know you top hat in your car while it does the trick right so now he's just fit for the parade he's ready to go right I kind of thought Oh hey this is brilliant actually because if you have you know you're facing everything hidden while the stuntman in really just like go at it rigid schedule and it's not like we can go earlier anything but a little silly it really is so so sublime music almost love scene like and I was expecting you know super hard they're they're waiting for some reason maybe for Bradman think it's a schedule I'll will yeah because he's not do for lunch till the next day yeah apparently yeah there on some sort of skits heavy metal bump up upon bound bound bound almost like rocky music were stocking up we're going to go do something we're going to arnold is this thing right right this guys are bumbling morons they're constantly like fucking shit up and then all of a sudden they're like doing these sweet drop kicks on the easy and we're not allowed to spend more than like forty five seconds on any given Z no we're not really with anyone for a really long time we that's that is one thing it's a lot of what's yeah and and it wasn't you know cheap they had to get scripts they were blowing pieces out of the trees right so tiny little explosive charges this was a lot so that gives us an opportunity to go back to if you haven't guessed there's a lot of back and forth in the scenes it's now we're back to berry and it winds up the trunk and the thing is just packed with weapons cloth third through government agency why not on I'm sitting in the clip Kak forty seven fifteen everything opened here's a tactical shotgun here's the best part right he's spoke lovers because they need to be hidden right alien to know who they are or honestly when it happened uh-huh fellow from a Mr Bean car getting right to the whole town that's gone yeah I would be more concerned with dealing direct probably why the stunt except they're kind of word though because there's a lead the fight scene you know the big gunfight and and and the Indians of apparently wiped out this whole town for food for their fast we do see that they haven't packaged right they do aliens yeah will come into that we're getting to the end folks so back at the house we get we first hint with the aliens look like it's a shadow on a wall as two of the blue shirts go up and it's the leader in the room we don't see him it's all about man it's all of so we we cut back to berry who is still trying to clean and yeah let's let's keep moving so now we have the cloud brigade very who I don't even know what and he's just cleaning like everything else has stopped like can rife right okay log line it's a fast food chain right which you would not know based on just the movie alone row need the log line to tell you all of these since we came to this shit old limit whatever man okay that that's actually the least of the worries now what's been going on Barry Decides to pick up a mop start cleaning the floor well it's filthy in their blood has got brain bits of flesh bits and finger tips it gives me so he's he's mopping than we cut to the alien leader who is finally lets us never mind we need to deal with this the slurs flunking disgusting you guys so I need to just mop it he was tall like wilt chamberlain tall yeah you know in missing his teeth no that was for a fact or hold onto that thought now all of a sudden I noted it makes one wonder if they hadn't had meets since landing all these people had vanished from the town what the Hell Oh one of these aliens doing exactly rank as we learn they have like you know a cellar full of humans like our first taste of Nash we've been substantiated we got it now while making sense forget it the aliens are here for the human meat and we'll all issues going on in the trying to find bread man right well and let's hope that this is the right log line I mean I don't know what the official one was but I don't know if we're wrong shoot us an email the meat is for the food authority don't know who the fuck they are what the fuck they want what do they do but apparently the aliens have a food authority and these poor bastards got stuck working for them well according to the really tall alien I mean this was New Zealand's equivalent to the guy who played jaws in the bond movies this guy what he wasn't like big bulky because he's addressing his troops blew up Gade and he's timeout leaving the whole planet and can't get out of here and there's a fucking travesty and everything like that is how he rolled now's he showed up on set it doesn't matter he didn't last very long he did not he was the slowest dumbest of the group so he goes back to his normal form as he's no or yes I don't know what he was doing their like of Ms One elcock road okay back to this baggage Oh man and I mean look good yeah it looked good so unhealthy and they're trying to break into the house so they do get to sneak in and they find a room with what seems to be boxes of human meat so that's over okay now this thing spring blood everywhere right and just before we leave and berry just mopped this floor yup he's been working hard frank is getting a clue so he takes the big guys blue shirt stained with blood and everything yeah puts it on puts it on technology like dude we gotta go the Mess Man Embarrasses Around Queen Rob and then all of the sudden they're set upon by his head off complete with the entire spinal column that when it comes out his flailing like a pissed off cats was just like art but what happens just before we leave we see Barry reaching for the rob them up and then we cut now the sudden ooh and they take care of him like sweet done yeah right they rip his this was one of the best ones they end up ripping no so there's an an Fox the alien leader is still speaking yeah he's the same long fucking speech that were mentioned when we began this whole process and he's just going and of course the other captivated because that's the way it was written principal and he goes on to tell they've been here for awhile now all the sudden on the day they're leaving he's GonNa give them all AK47's why I don't know either so he's like in these out to you and of course they're like oh I can't even golf clap now then we get to this great scene he could have just left like he came in he has mysteriously appeared he could have been gone and that would have been the end really it looks like a had the idea of a food in my head that it's green and lumpy but it's like marshmallow like marshmallow fluff something well handling marshmallows in it's a casserole deserves out like an onset Jello doesn't wanNA drink out of the bowl so he keeps trying to like screw further away in the line and it goes on for quite a long time this bowl passing bringing him moving in more then we cut back to the alien leader is still talking to talking is one of the Aliens Islah Naughty Naughty pulls it away everybody gets one sip Yup that's it you're one SIP soldier you haven't earned can we cut on him we hear him but were he just you know I would love to get my hands on the script and see what was the actual written speech Oh my God does mean went on for ever and wow so anyway he's deal going on about yet right because the tall alien wasn't in there when the guy was doing speech no one missed him so he just hangs out there until ultimately the ball gets to him like more apparently his airing some beef or something so man anywhere all them that tomorrow the day they're leaving rain Davis supposed to eat Redman is the day they're set to leave yeah name my thought was like I said with with everything happening tomorrow why and they've heard this because as Franks we get the requisite look of fear disgust everything he takes a step and France digging it yeah he hesitates in all the aliens can look at him like can't they're like lifting the ball Easter soup style slurping it up and they're into it oh yeah and frank is at the glee what happens now decide differently it's it's so stupid of Alien Puking into this bowl copious amounts I mean it's it's a punch bowl and he pretty much fills it the house but now all the blueshirts have AK47's and just like everywhere wandering aimlessly everywhere on the grounds around the house yeah so him hammer foot alien is immortal and somehow he gets the honor close end of the line we see frank trying to make his way you know slipped past a couple kinda get to the end of the line will eventually does because man what you doing retakes butts down smiles gives a nod takes a second which apparently a Faux Pas yeah I wish I I I'm it wouldn't do good to like watch this in wash this watches and write everything down because as drowned out a lot yes right there's four of the shots linked to rain so they find Bradman set him free marinating yeah he's marinating in his little kettle and then all of a sudden it's more and just like wanders into the hallway with the rest of them prove vast in everything said slate can stretch it clearly does not fit him right and nobody notices down there but it was fruit loops damaged thrown in the ball and so they start passing the ball and all just digging and digging and his company because framed it's bloody not you know I I wrote it off as look at what they're doing so maybe they thought he was out there helping do something none of the rest of them are bloodied in leaving why I would just pack my shit and go home on Bradman right this while they're leaving anyway I mean our jobs done the alien invasion is over Arken the sun's coming up so okay we have morning and heroes are trying to get on stops and suddenly they have like some sort of sense has that look you've seen all the movies stops looks like mhm time to go I would pack my shit up and go snow cone and just wait till tomorrow and then done nope that's not what that's not it is classic is a gun shot in the head that is just phenomenal but you gotta see it you got to see it so like I said take all the necessary information has been given were leaving we have all of our shit again and some to go yeah everything kicks off yeah and we just start to get into it remember for not allowed more than comes next so yeah K- The guys are still wearing their bollock lavas frank puts his back on right whatever right right but now they're going down right let me tell you bury Franken Ozzy are not crack shots that's right and the really silly thing is our heroes know that just wearing a blue shirt lets them passes alien Oh yeah we'll just dump them completely right yeah well enough against our guys because they get cut down pretty quickly before we've seen several instances where the body shots don't work it's really expensive to have a full on alien suit the whole movie Gus Right but if you're going to do something like that because the budget you have to kind of consider like now we're just you know I get I get the blue shirt reason right and the reason is budget you know and drives off now here's the thing about this car this car is amazing it's my favorite thing about this movie so imagine one of these they're dealing with things right yes burien Osceola in the next room laughing at him being stuck out there but he's they're hearing this too I'm like watch this and if you watched it watch it again and look look for the Jin drinking alien hiding in the library Eric who stilling in the road at this point is coming up and wakes up to find he's just been so we've moved on we had we had our forty five seconds map we had more than that so we make up for completely cutting away hard cut and we're back to Oh maybe the heroes just wear those and sneak right out of the house but I guess then we wouldn't get though wasn't the story wasn't the story then we wouldn't get the wonderful scene coming in and we I didn't know there was night that was the funny thing right there was like suddenly it was afternoon when they went into the house it suddenly like sunrise can get in stand up see through this second higher windshield behind the Beatles and there's just this big shaft with steering wheel that he stand car except it's cardboard cutout right now behind the Beatles and I'll let you yeah you might be thinking how does one drive little Mr Bean cars and in the windshield is a cardboard cutout of the Beatles screen progress unprotected all four of them with the you know sitting behind the Beatles will let me tell you so the top of this car has been cut off an extension has been put on with a separate windshield above right so that Derek Yup right could just walked off nobody would have asked a question right now name not even worse ricky forty seven well I don't even know if they'd had any thought to excuse it Ngelo whip we Jello with whipped cream okay yeah whip to shakes together yes what kind of what it looked like and then a bunch of what like fruit loops what they call her and they're they're hiding out and of course one of the K. forty-seven blueshirts comes along we we get to go back to the house yeah and there's just tons of gunfire I mean it's just crazy the alien leader something is amiss and then rolls into the room to see what's going on and then kicks off yet does it tie forty five seconds and seen at a time right so to settle all this to the rumble of millions who can't open car doors right don't canoe who won another is they have all kinds of ailments about them right now all of a sudden these guys are like fucking specter from bond aircraft no they are now right they're doing what Derek there's spraying and praying bullets flying everywhere just as his kicks off were done been like I don't think I can drive this I don't think this is meant to be driven I don't know what this this but he seems at home he does in drives yeah so and that's why I think this must be Derek Carr because if I come across his car you go and I'd hey so I there's one part of this that I noted and like I say too much about it but if you're GONNA win down by some shots for a bit from the trees from the giant pine tree and he unloads into it he does and so fun so he last alien hits hits the ground so then once the tree has emptied where Chiffon by a seagull yes apparently that's like with my day could only get worse well it does he pops into the car wall this is going on that we had a whole scene of hints slipping into bedroom opens up a drawer and pulls out again a bond style attention builds and then all of a sudden the alien shot by frank from behind right Yup then we're back to derrick who the poor bastard is just this head flap thing out of clown car it was funny as coop flew flew loop it was awesome the zone finally it empties of the tree you know and then all aliens just start falling out of the tree like in my mind it was like clowns the the top hat doesn't work out flops out of control his brains will keep coming else what he does is he uses his belts ties it around Rambo style yeah as we are reading these eight four four and they're just roll enroll in here's the thing they're not using it's not in the windshield propped up in a seat rates not up against the windshield like protector the there you could see him through the winter and that's the funny thing is just another shot of up Derek's running is he going to the house from the House don't know maybe we'll find out peter not just any calculator not in HP scientific what talking Casio Big Button Aliyah calculate so derrick he's his racing to the rescue I don't know how he knows where he's gone yeah I don't think he does but he's well he ends up there still crime it is it is gorgeous it's beautiful and he pulls out this chainsaw Yup and then he goes to town on this alien right L. so he's back in the car yep and he does this great death race two thousand suddenly a blue shirt way out in the middle of nowhere they look like the four of them were crammed into the seat wearing their sergeant pepper's lonely hearts ban yeah as though someone wants you to think that the Beatles are sitting in the you're now there's a lot of gunfire and I listened one of your favorite scenes ozzy gets the one of the aliens is is getting hit punching bags style Vaca- forty-sevens it can't deal with these three mask wearing freaks he's GonNa take his pistol and handle him lots of good leader Cher right point to cover point each cover point progressively further from the fucking house but no these geniuses are storming the fuck and porch and then running back and then running tilt to the we're back at the house and we get another headshot to an alien and Ozzy is in a staredown with an armed alien uh-huh l. done with duct tape Yup that's the magic keypad then unlocks the secret compartment which he opens up and it is now all of a sudden this is when it happens we see the aliens in drew form yeah there's only like four of them all right I mean it just it now anyway so he he's like I'm going to deal with this myself so he's got all these people canal everywhere and we get back to the house and it's just more gunshots everyone you know no one is able to get away that's the disturbing part as like Jesus tell them how he gets the chainsaw chainsaw is locked in this car a secret can partly compartment locked with Calculus and really cinches it and you know this this cracked open head is his Achilles heel because one thing that slow in this guy down you know dimwitted and he's been at it so he gets that going and he's just on his way but we don't see him like going to he's on his way somewhere laughed at this point I wanna take a moment just to say it was the unloads into the Pine Tree and remember these guys are not crack shots the way he empties his clip into the tree the needle parts right look like giant flesh colored harpoons have jutted it makes them walk really weird do you know like like a Mr Potato head that has just been fucking wronged by life and but here's the thing they look like which kind of spoils it but when you see it happening and the thing is these effects are awesome because he's big giant alien hands they look like big potatoes yes cuts him in half at which point Derek procures chainsaw her and he just Mos- guys down in front they do appeal from the alien and here comes John Paul George and Ringo Astor's right yeah because there's a couple of fight scenes where it's like the top of the game my favorite one it's one with awesome getting driven back I'm like when you're trying to get out what the hell right right and one minute they're tripping over their own toes and the next minute they're you know they're karate the mouse move there's there's gesticulation in the jaws and in the is is in in the temples too so yeah so these things these oranges is hilarious because it was not what anyone would expect if you if you see the cover that we saw right Ian idea of what the to the rest of the alien the back of their pants all of them have exploded because you have these giant aspro tuber you know big and had his own company and stuff but anyway they were pretty good but here's the thing the heads much as you like man that's pretty fucking good then Congratula Guy who's picking direction and go you know invites do not last month long the enemies are behind you you just face keeps shooting in guilt from cover point to cover rinses their big old pointy but Jesus point he doesn't even do it justice we T- pointy is mister spock's ears okay and it does and they also shoulder for two rinses like the asked one thing and they got big potbellies also in the prosthetics are actually pretty goddamn good and you know that it was bargain-basement stuff means wasn't you know like Peter Jackson didn't call up you know Greg Nicotera who at that time anyway but we see this weird shaped shadow though kind of get an idea that are big lump Ian ep woo so this could be something was making effects that looked that like that or worse right you know because this is this is forty or thirty years before he became yeah I can't remember at this point which one I think it was Ozzie. He drops down from this public Obama and then just gives an uppercut to the aliens nuts and down he goes yes and it's even the sound effect and then wasn't agir frank doesn't matter so they got they got they got plummer gut bellies they instead of plummer crack they've they've got these giant tube rinses and it's funny all of this and look I mean and it does look good but they p dead and you could tell it was intentional the chief alien all of his his head is poor turbulence and stuff really looked like ever round so dirt comes in and it turns out he wasn't actually saving Franken Roic and you know it just didn't feel like Yay we want ooh Oh so the alien leaders walking around and and he heard Derek or

Peter Jackson Bravo US National Aerospace Defense Lea New Zealand New Zealand Queen Liz Tony Hiles Ken Hammon IMDB New Zealand National Air and S New Zealand Lia Lawrence Jim barry Harry Potter Craig Smith Danny Owners forty five minutes