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I don't want to open up on this podcast of nervous. Gorge you guys are guests. Let's bring someone with an actual brain. He is the co founder and ceo shot studios. he was instrumental in the blossoming stages of bieber's career justin bieber that is he manages the career of pont's anna stocking anwar jabari and bobby and of course news client j. paul my brother. He's a multimedia genius. Whose normally behind the scenes here today to share his secrets. Please welcome john shady. John john john john john john john john john. There we go here. We go john. Let me let me let me okay. I was gonna go with any questions. Okay so stop leading with the statement. The wardrobe today got ask what's good what's good. The wardrobe just wanted to look proper. He looked like fred from scooby. Doo holy shit. It's the first thing i'd halloween. It's the first thing is i mean the recent you do look look proper. I've just never seen the collar peeking from the shirt. You know this is a business. Podcast i listen to assist to learn so i came here to teach a little bit too. We'd love to learn things from you johnny. Evelyn you've been you've been doing this for so long. I've known you for seven years plus for too long. I wouldn't even give me the time of day and our best friends. No i you pitch me on airplane mode seven years ago. Did you say how they feel good about that. You feel good about that pass now or do you wish you got that. Stunning was good. Everyone starts that was his first movie next movies and be better. Do you have to you have to make shady things in order to make good things. Eventually i don't know if airplane mode shitty boy tongs experiment. It was two and a half million dollars baron. I'd like you're inexperienced. You know they say You know Inexperienced turns into bad decision than bad decisions. Turn into experience. Is that what they say. Inexperienced turns into bad decisions and bad. That is turned into okay. So that's what i'm saying. Because i've i've been watching a lot of a lot of programming. Recently and a lot of these things are so good and i feel like the creators the directors. The writers are have just a track record of unparalleled success. And for me. It's not like that. Like fucked up a lot. And that's how i learn. And that's how. I like got good or at least semi goes to a place where i'm comfortable with putting stuff that i believe in but have you had an immense amount of setbacks that equate year success. Oh yeah yeah. I mean i. I don't even know where to start. You know like. There's i mean we met because you know I had an app. The had over eight and a half million users in raised fifteen million dollars in dots. Yeah the shots shots app right and like you know whereas that now i mean like but you still learn. It's not gonna stop me from making my next app idea You know. I think we learn Whether it's what we're content we're creating what apps were making whatever it is even march. You know like you know you get better and better and better with merch. different businesses. I'm sure version. One of maverick clubs can be a lot different in version. Ten of maverick lb pusher michael. And you also himself you'll put that on just for a second pull up again please. Or just just hold it. Maybe under the Collared shirt. I just wanna cover slightly so i do see what's gonna just that's hand a little bit. Yeah look welcome the boston johnny. I hate to say this. And i think this goes well with the thai The last time you were actually on impulsive once before for twenty half an hour. Maybe it was the han stocking. He came in at the end. You had before you came on the show that day you had. You didn't know you're gonna be coming on the show and you indulge slightly in a little bit of silla sivan. Mushrooms wanna talk about this. I think i wanted to break the ice with this but you know i feel like talking about failure. I and then we'll get to that supreme success. Yeah sure what do you what do you. What's what's good with the silly silly like and also what do you what do you think about the path that certain places in america are taking right now towards the legalization of sivan. Oh i think. I think it's great. I think it's going to be I personally see it as an like an antidepressant I think especially more than ever right now with creative people feeling entrapped because Corentin and kobe and staying inside. And i think you're gonna see a lot more creative people kind of feeling trapped and feeling you know which feeling trapped ultimately lead to anxiety build up and depression and and i feel you know some of the cycle delic drugs. You know Actually give you kind of like an escape kind of give you some of the answers that you didn't have before and they connect you with your subconscious mind so i think you know i mean. Of course there's gonna be some people who abuse it just like some people abuse alcohol. Some people abuse sugar average marijuana you know. But but but i think for for the masses. I think it's going to really help. connect yourself can connect with yourself more. Find some of those answers that you don't know it's definitely a fast track way to completely switch your perspective on life like this isn't a psa to to try psychedelics. But what about the hand stocking. Was it that bad that you felt like you need to know. Now he wanted you know. No no i was here. And i wasn't i honestly didn't even like i just wanted to come by and see you guys. I wanted to see toxic stops on the podcast. I knew something was wrong. Right off the bat. He comes down and says this i. Oh you perhaps here. I'm not offering any context. So he's not doing this to get fucked up. Nothing was wrong. Your he's very much a high level group of business executives and thinkers in this country right now who are utilizing micro doses to enhance their collaborative and creative spirit. This is half a decade to a decade behind. Silicon valley who has been using micro does levels for the past five to ten years to continue to garner collaborative spirit on team. Ceo's are doing it to open their minds to new creative approaches to both business and technology. It seems an la has as well. But i guess the question for me is what core benefits are you finding in your life and i know you just said the relief anxiety and depression. But what are you. What are you finding. It does for your approach to business and creative You know. I'm i'm always a thinker and i'm always thinking of ideas and usually think of an idea and then i move onto what's on my plate so that idea still stays in the back of my head and my subconscious mind and eventually like just builds up and builds up you know. Sometimes i'll sit. You know right down the idea. Real quick my notes app but you know it just sits there. And then when it's time to execute it just kinda connects me back with my subconscious. Mind what needs to do in the now. How does that one idea. Connect the big picture. What were building with the you know. How does it become one big experience. How do we take this to another level. It just really. It just really helps me release. Especially i work from home. I'm my office is not in my home. So i'm home almost always you know You know sometimes like you know. I'll go out for dinner but that's about it you know i'm home and i don't have that you know before before co pre covid office and we had a team of people that were sitting room and our ideas would bounce off one another because you know that's how we used to be in a room of like six to eight people coming up with ideas and don't exist anymore and i don't know when that's coming back so so now i'm feeling you know a little bit separated from that and now i'm just working on different things but you know i'm not doing it every day doing and high doses like you're not doing it because the lack of people in your house you're using it to create imaginary. No i mean. The last time i was here is the last time i maybe even done it. You know it's not something. I'm doing day now. There are people doing doing it. you know what. Let's talk about the dose for hot second to what are we talking about. How half cam of roz mealy graham like what minds like a nibble mines like a tiny. Yeah you really. My ten attended evergreen. The numbers you're stimulation with psychedelics. In there would you take it further. Lsd i don't think so no tried. Have you tried it when i was younger but i don't think so. I just watched a documentary. Orange sunshine tim leary documentary about the brotherhood of eternal. Love your ranch. While i watch it. And it's crazy lsd. I feel like has a prolonged. Very prolonged effect The side effects of altering your mind in that way for as long as these These hippies dead Was evident you to the side effects or any of the long term effects of a. I'll be honest. I i did else. When i was fifteen years. Old was looney yeah. I get flashbacks sometimes. Shit yeah i guess. They say they're safe. You rack your spine. You can release a hint of. Yeah i get in my sleep. I don't know maybe the way. I'm sleeping the angle. But sometimes my sleep like i'll just get just from one one experience. There's a few was young. So i don't know he was fifteen a freshman year more than seven times. Probably around that. There's that there's that old. I don't know if it's actually a clinical diagnosis. But there's that all dot is it really. If if you've used acid more than seven times you're clinically insane. Is that what it is a lot of insane people in israel right now and in. This might be exactly. Yeah you try to keep it right under that level but it's it's weird though. The conversation about psychedelics has entered the mainstream. And i think you know you have people like joe rogan and other people that are on his show talking about it all the time and It'll be interesting to see where it goes over the next or the next decade. because now you've got places like denver and oregon. Who have decriminalize in i think are even moving towards those on on suicide and so you can go to a store and buy which inside is wild it starts. There usually usually starts oregon colorado washington state. Yeah absolutely your and ideas man. Talk about these ideas that you come up with. Yes these meetings. I heard alexis. Oh hainian say this. You know alexis. Oh hanging co-founder wrote it When i was in a you in college. I went to a little seminar. He added low speaking seminar and he said something that like maybe think he said ideas are worthless or something along. Those lines. ideas are useless because an idea is just an idea. Right unless you execute on it technically. I hear what he's saying. Do you believe that you think ideas are. Ideas are nothing before gazing ideas. Anybody i mean you see anyone go with you. You know you. The four of us could go to dinner tonight and talk five ideas and bounce off one another but if you don't actually go and get it done means nothing okay. But but by the grocery you gotta start with the seat. The seat isn't useless. Doesn't useless can i say you could. You could imagine a tree all day but that matching the trees is nothing. I think the first step is that mustard seed. That's the first that saying we get. If i can imagine a forest okay but okay you're saying the idea is an equivalent to see you dream all the time even remember your dreams or even having a pocket full of seeds mean you've got to put that seed into the ground and start watering it in. I mean see if you have a pocket full of seeds right. Now what's going to happen. What if you really feet a lot of birds. Here's where here's where i think. That statement is is flawed. I i think it removes the importance of ideas sharing in a group setting and so for someone like the founder of read it. He may be talking about the value of ideas to oneself an idea to oneself not shared with a greater unit needs to be executed upon or it's worthless when you get into a group. Setting ideas are very valuable because when you deliver a just a concept just the slimmest idea glimmer of hope of what something in your mind can be. He picks up and says but what about this then the guy picks up on what he says and says what about this and that collaborative snowball effect has bird so many fucking executed ideas. So i think that that that statement about ideas being worthless is when they exist and idea stuck here is when spoken into a group of people that idea could become the next hundred billion. What i'm saying billion dollar companies. Yeah seven years later. I still can't quite get behind it. I think ideas are so powerful. I think the right idea can seep into a person's mind the right person like venom like like toxin almost just take over and and stimulate. God knows what and at one point. I know you had an idea to start shots. I wanted to revisit. This conversation Shots started off as an app. You're kind of in the social media space saw cone out sixty hundred all the time hanging out with anwar rudy. You'd bring bieber over from time to time. i remember. I came to town from doors. Now i remember i. I was there once. Bieber was there Kendall jenner walked in a one point. I was like what the fuck might brown kid from ohio. How did this happen. I'm in a in a room with these people and then fuck is a lot to unpack your johnny. Let's go. i know. I know i know. I looked into his duffel bag may to know where to go from here because they do want to talk about shots. But how did you even get in a position to be so tight and connected with those people. You're cool guy. You could keep the relationship going because of just your charisma who you are. But how did you get there With which burston specifically the star would be because he was the inception right behind the okay so History was great You know so. The first person that pepper worked with Officially was floyd mayweather. Which i still do Since it's been ten years now may two thousand ten And floyd so floyd and i bought you know always you know everything we've done everything together and then He had this jeweler. Ben baller that. I think a lot of people know and Ben and floyd were hanging out and we were actually filming. Content around. Floyd and ben was with them and i got to know ben. Kind of like you know ben's i just establish a relationship with ben and then a few weeks or few months later ben said. hey. I'm with justin bieber and i'm telling him all about what you do at the time we were. Actually i iphone game developers. We had about six different. I phone games before shots at four-shot studios yet and he's a fan of your games. He actually plays their games. And can i introduce you to him and Justin i think just turned eighteen. And i said sure and he connected me with justin and then i lived in orange county at the time. Justin was living in La and just like like like. I love to meet and talk about all the stuff that you're creating and that's how we started and that. But how did you develop a working relationship. Like what what was he lacking are. What did he not have that. You felt like you could contribute. I think my relationship with him is no different relation with you guys like you know. I think we're just like lives homes. But then like you know like like mike and i talk weekly about ideas you know i mean i think he's is like we felt like we were just like creatively in line. We all are all my conversations that you guys have always been creative ideas. And i got this idea you know and i think it was that like i think like we were like on the same creative wavelength. I think you also have a really good grip on the idea of building relationships not based off of a present day need but off of the idea that something may come down the line so you meet up with bieber you spend time with them. You spend time with ben. Baller spend time with floyd. You spend time with jenner's whoever right not because there's something that needs to be done today but six months from now you may get a phone call saying i've one hundred twenty five million dollar budget for a pop singer. A teenage pop singers say walk. I created a relationship six months ago. That is going to make us all a lot of money right now. I think you're really good. At creating. connections that will yield future results. Do you think that's true when i was younger Someone that was really close with nato told me Life is not short life as long. You know I was in my twitter. I'm forty years old now. And i was in my twenties and he told me life is not short life as long. You know some of the relationships you have now. You might not need now but you might need in fifteen years from now. It's happening now Somebody that i used to work with. When i was eighteen. I worked with him from eighteen. Thirty hadn't talked to him. When i turn thirty We went different ways Career wise and then now something that we're building. I was like wait. I need this guy. Stayed in touch career wise professionally. I haven't had a relationship in ten years. And now he's like running this side of the business it's you know but that goes back to life is not short. Everything's not going to end tomorrow. You know you know if there's an opportunity you don't have to do this now. You know life as long. You know like we're i mean seven years we've known each other. Yeah that's crazy. Seven years just started working with jake. It's crazy how those relationships and the reason why we invigorate reinvigorate. If you ask. Jake y john and he's not going to say oh because he knows boxing. He knows social media. I known for a long time. And i trust and that's the number one reason why what i've heard people absolutely. It's interesting to not only his life long but it's unpredictable and it's it's another thing you probably do a great job at treating everyone with respect because you never know when your cameraman from five years ago is going to be the ceo of amazon. You know what i'm saying calling on the escobar mentality you know escobar took care of everyone the streets. He didn't care about the politicians and all that the politicians had to give into escobar. Because he was so powerful with the people that he took care of the streets not to like you know you know go compare. Yeah yeah yeah. I mean say like model my life after a drug lord but like. That's one thing when i watch a read about him i'm like you know and also you know. Obviously his motives were different. But i appreciate it that people in the streets you know like he took care of them. I mean for different motives but the fact that they got something whether his motives were whatever. They were always appreciated that. It's just a very teachable notion. I think there's a lot of people out there who see this idea of celebrities coming up and then being very off putting to the to the work or into this to that and it's something i it's something he's never been like that but it's something i've always tried to instill in him is take very good care of your people because not only are they valuable now but you really have no idea where they might be in the next ten to fifteen years you know and how how drastically different. The relationship may look two decades from now. It's just such an the left side guy. It's now your co host. The number one podcast in the world. His numbers still. Mike from love sack. Now most people in mike love sack mike. Love song up. You still have that connection by the way. Still checking with brandy. My checking in with sean all the time. It's just another never not a keep you gotta first of all remember where he came from and remember the people that help you get to where you are now and continuous contact with a weiner dog who also believes in silla sivan therapy. Hey we interrupt this program to bring you our sponsor if you have a weiner like this one and you want it to perform at an optimum level liuchiu is for you guys if you're looking to last longer go extra rows you want to be confident in bed. Every single time for sex get the blues. Dot dot com is the first ever brings your performance in your weiner region to another level it. Check this out. They've got the same ingredients that are in vibrancy alice. You know they work. Also if you're going to get a tight on the wiener dog while we do this. I think it'd be a visceral right. They'll be able to see and make connection since her tool. They can work faster. 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If i'm wrong was to post pictures and not show likes it was. It was very first platform. That didn't validate your content with data So what was what was the premise. Why did you start that. I don't know if it was to compete against instagram. I think it was for the people who didn't want to deal with that right because this was before snapchat had stories which is before instagram stories. Obviously and that's what we were. The shots app was pretty much instagram stories. You know they were you know or snapchat stories. There is no you know you. You know if you post a story. i don't know how many people viewed it. I don't know how many people liked it. You know if. I go to your instagram profile. Could see how many people follow you. You know it's like a kind of maybe do that math but we took that part out that was like hey just share your day. Don't worry about it The option to keep it after twenty. Four hours i would disappear after twenty. Four hours you know was that it was that it was. You know pretty much snapchat stories before and it was kind of for that person who may be needed. Peace of mind which. I don't think back then. People need a peace of mind yet from social media thing. Now we're starting to see it. And i think that's why you're seeing people you stories more than a timeline or you know On instagram i restrict my comments. That only people i follow ca comments. 'cause i don't really need other people's opinions you know at times You know so. I think you know or some people. Hide their comments instagram's obviously now experimenting removing likes on some accounts. I don't know if they're gonna move forward with that or not. But i know some people who can't see. How many likes they get so we just wanted to do that. More for the person who wanted peace of mind from social media. But i think we're just a little too early for the time. Because i don't think the world mentally needed that at that time. Yes i don't want to sound like a dick here but it didn't. The concert didn't work. Is it okay to say. That of course didn't okay. So why i think. I think it was too early for its time. I think win snapchat put into at that time. Snapchat was just a texting app. That you to send a message and disappear and then when snapchat putin stories. There were so much bigger than us that everyone gravitated toward snapchat started using snapchat because they knew that more than audience. There you know. I think at the time we had i think eight million users and snapchat had hundred million plus user. So i think we kind of got You know. I think we were. Just you know when snapchat put that feature in a kind of you know took us out. It had to be frustrating. It was frustrating. You know it was frustrating but at the time you know so having so much fun like working with he belykh layla and anwar in and i saw like you know those times. We saw a lot of conversations with a really deep partnership with twitter. Like if you look up twitter shots at there's some news that came out about it and And what happened during those times. Which i you know. I don't. i've never talked about publicly. But i will now is like when we had those meetings with twitter. I i noticed that twitter did not care about vine and was so focused on twitter. Every meeting i would have with twitter. And i would bring up. Vinyl would bring up you. i would bring up Bring they had purchased vine yeah. I went pie. Vinyl is at his peak when you had a twitter had already purchased it at this point. Twitter purchase mind before vine launched twitter owned by from day. One to okay. Yeah yeah they bought. They bought vine prelaunch. And you're saying they. It was ugly stepchild. Yeah they didn't care and we we were just having meetings after meetings. And then that's when. I remember telling osama's like i don't think they're gonna care they don't care about vine i think vines go downhill. I think it's time to move are following from vine to work with lillian rudy. And at time we're working with batch and move are following from vine to these other platforms because this is about to be a sinking ship and so we were so focused. Their the app wasn't working. We just we already had thrown in the towel. And then we built shot studios so at the time it hurt. The app didn't work and we had explain to investors that. Hey you know. I know you thought we were going to be the mix instagram. But we're actually gonna talent studio and managing influencers taking it was it. Was you know what the ones who mattered understood. I mean there are a lot of people like what's now what we mean influence or would it be mimi. You're gonna work with viner's you're supposed to be the you know a ten billion dollar company. I hey i'm not going to be. That could either keep trying and we could go to zero. Or i could also do this quimby dude. That's what i mean know so at least we have. We had this other plan that you know this was two thousand and fifteen five years laters. It's working it's been successful but i'll be honest You know we we also had an app called mindy m. i n. d. i e. And if you look it up. Mindy video app tiktok. It was literally musically cloned mindy app and with mindy musically became tiktok but we had the original tiktok. And you know sometimes you know the few people who knows like hey you messed up. Not doing this like yeah. I know but also like you know. Sometimes i see like mark zuckerberg and jack dorsey like anytime. I see under like explaining themselves to congress and what they're doing every time i turn on c. span. That's where they are. But i'm hanging out with my beautiful fiancee. I'd rather be here with that. They're always explaining themselves time congress congresswoman always ask like do they get to enjoy air me like nah they enjoying their mark zuckerberg's alien. I think it was that was. That was a proven fact. Yeah it was either that or a lizard person living you overlord either way. The trillion dollar bank account comes with a price tag. That a lot of people don't know yes. Even if i had twenty billion dollars in the bank i would not want to like. I hold up every day and go to washington. Dc go. explain what. I'm doing to protect date hold up. You had a price tag on point. Is it true that twitter was gonna buy shots for one hundred fifty million You know the you look that up giant come on number one in the world we have someone who does research and it gives it to me on. If he's there was a lot of conversations with us on twitter. But that's when it was supposed to be you know it never really got to that price point. I think what the media like put out there. I don't know how they even came up with that number but there were conversations of partnership with us but it was supposed to be vine included. And everything like. They're supposed to be a huge partnership between us and twitter and buying and that's what i'm talking about. Those were the stories that i was going to twitter all the time. And you know presenting to everybody and all that stuff. I'm like how this you know. We could create one huge video platform johnny. Johnny is it true that the cfo twitter meant to send the private the am about the acquisition of shots and accidentally tweeted it. He tweeted something by accident. He said. I still think we should buy them. He is on your scheduled for december fifteenth or sixteenth. We need to sell him. I have a plan and it went like this. We actually he accidentally he tweeted out. But you never said shot so. I can't confirm he was talking about. They were talking to other people schedule. But these guys have multiple means cal. Yeah me and they ended up buying some other companies at the time. Okay okay so you moved into. Talent moved out a platform and in the talent and then five year did a fantastic job with that built. Some of the biggest social media careers brought shift on monday through sponsorships clothing. God knows what and here five minutes late. Five years later maybe feels like five minutes getting still still getting involved with talents. Can we talk about the note boys a little bit of course so over. I've watched this happen and ben privy to a lot of it you've built this relationship with full sun with over the past couple of months. What do you see as the what you see in the boys in that group and what you see in their future. yeah What i see with them now is just a group of guys that i love just being around there. You know group of fun. Canadian guys having a good time there you know. It's a little different than what they're creating online So the first thing versus just i just love being around them and you know hanging out with them and then you know some creative ideas come out of having our meetings and you know it you know. I think the the thing is in last the last time i was on impulsive. Is i think it's important for them and everybody to start building products and brands. You know like yeah you know you know. It's no secret but you know how much money they make off youtube right. So they've got to build other products and brands and they do a great job with merges. Those logan and you know other creators. but you know. I think it's time to use this platform to start building other things and it's so hard though especially now it's oversaturated merch a merger yeah i mean unless unless you're a now boy Or james charles. It's hard to move product. Like the days of making fifty million grossing fifty million dollars a year from merch. Only few creators can do that. still You chose right with the knelt boys but when you talk about developing product are you looking elsewhere. I know i mean. I don't know what he wants to talk about today. There's there's speak closely because remember. Your ideas are nothing. What happened macklin. One took a spiritual journey. Sam facing this better. When you were on shrooms psychedelic. He's going to be able to talk about today on it. But you know everything's pending and it usually. I don't like to talk about and not not because it's like. Oh you know. It's not the right thing to do. It's like i also don't wanna get people's hopes up. You know what. I mean like you know what i mean messages. I get From the last poll. Podcast impulsive episode. Where's your book. Where's your book. You know like already. I was like hey we talked about. I want mike said you want to write a book. But it's i everyone's like where's your book. Where's your book so you know. The book is in the works. They'll it's going to be a little while but You know but you know. I mean like everything like you know. I try not to talk about anything until it's done ready to go. Expectations low same way Somewhere the book you talked about a little bit in the last episode but which should probably bring it back for people who may have. You wanted to create a book for people to explain the idea that anyone could utilize social media in this day and age to create a revenue. Stream is basically the gist of the building. A business on using youtube. I think everyone now more than ever wants to learn how to create a business on youtube. How do i. How do i stop. People don't know people don't even know like you know like how to even create an account and how to sink your g mail with your youtube. It's like the full playbook. When do i start monetize. I have a friend of mine la paparazzi. I think you guys know. Kevin wong crushing it crushing it. And he's like calling me all the time john. I'm crushing it you know. How do i make money doing this. You know what i mean like. He just doesn't know and he's so focused on actually delivering the content and growing his channel. You know what i mean like now. It's like okay. Well now okay good you figure that part out which is actually probably the hardest part. Yeah yeah and i go to chapter seven and whatever chapter you. Know how to monetize their channel. You know how to get into the different tiers of advertising how to not be dependent on absence and maybe even having products like those old playbook for anyone who has any kind of question What kind of content. You know what to make a whole chapter. on collaboration. it varies it varies. And this is the the expertise of the creator or of of the The business builder is like how does a paparazzi make a product. Do you have. Are you working on our c. Working on some do not saying you have to understand who you are what you do. And probably most importantly whose consuming the thing that you're making Yeah well i mean. That's you know you. And you're also under the case of the paparazzi. With what what. Some of these guys have Cracked like kevin wong no comment. Is you know finding the people who are you. Know that the the the tags and the titles that actually make that video discoverable right. That's a huge thing. It's like okay the you know if you notice these guys learned. Click bait overnight. How did these guys know that you know. That's a form click bait. It's its own formula. But they've learned that and they know that the people you know the price hall and some of these other names are like hot topics on youtube because these guys are searched so much on youtube but they don't have the channels you know they don't have the content to provide so you know and i don't know if bryce hall has a youtube channel. I'm he's not super active. Like nine goes than we are that even also helps to because the more active he is the more you know people going this rabbit hole watching bryce buys you know what price and then they're done and then bryce hall eats at cat as now recommended next. You know what i mean. And then kevin gets that view because of all the traffic bryce ascending. I mean there's a whole theon. He's done a great job and it's funny too. Because kevin wong was very much like a a list. 'paparazzi i mean he and still as but has shot drake and kylie and everybody under the sun in these private both private and very public paparazzi meetups. But now over the past. I think quarantine was what did this to quarantine is what reshaped his model has very much become the influencers and tiktok environment pop ratto and his videos reflect that and more he post what five to ten videos ally say you know. I think you nailed it. I think cova. Did you know covid really made. I think myself because people ask like what's the difference find star in a tiktok star and i think cove it is the answer because what happened with these paparazzi guys. You know they. They made their money. You know capturing celebrities out in the streets but celebrities go on the streets right like let's an jennifer garner right like she can't be a scene out. I mean like why harding well because she would get backlash because you know like. Hey you're in california cove it's i mean. What are you doing your mass all this. Is elvis stop where the tiktok stars don't care. They're going because again they're not employed. What do you mean. Jennifer garner gets employed. She's oh yeah yeah. Yeah yeah yeah yes she has yes she has a studio that could be a hey. These self-employed young stars. Don't have to answer fucking anyone ever agree and their themselves. They're not playing a character they're not pretending to be someone else. Onscreen noble art But it's just they have the ability to give less fucks than the traditional star less for now no fox a lot of them still depend on brand lost a lot of them still. Don't give a fuck and youtube. Both i think both johnny brought appoint right off the bat which is which is youth financial any kind of breakdown finances or your appearance is not always the reason because because listen jennifer if you told jennifer garner y'all you can still make one hundred million next year. If you go out during covid. She still wouldn't do it because she doesn't want that to her. Reflect her image. I think it's it's closer to his point. Which is social media. Stars care less about their their image and their legacy than they don't care that new york times is talking about parties. I mean jennifer garner's mother. She's got it. She's got a whole legacy to leave behind her. Bryce hall may not ever shit. They will not someone with the class of jennifer garner but like the youth. I think could partially be attributed to wear. These people are going like they they don't think beforehand like if i go to saddle ranchers. Probably good chance of kevin. Wong is going to chew me. I do you. And i know very well. The a-list the ones who are a little older twenty five to thirty five are still going out in hollywood. They're going to house parties. The ones with no phones. The one where If you're the person taking video you get kicked out. It's still it's still happening. I just think the youth aspect lens the The young internet stars to level of naievty back gets them in trouble. The old the older experienced maybe traditional stars are a little smarter about how they're breaking the wool the rules. But but but so now what's happening is so the paparazzi need a capture. Somebody right because they're not. You know like these young guys are going out and they have that you to clout right like they're hot. You know you know. Brought you know. Uploaded video bryce hall or noah becker. Addison rae or even you like. I saw a random video. Just came up suggests that to me. catch it had at the time had three hundred thousand views and it was like a pop rossi page. I've never heard of. I mean like these. Yeah yeah it was just the from the other night i could tell you you're waiting for your car. Oh okay so. I want to ask about this. I want to ask what i find paparazzi to be incredibly invasive. I always have but at first. It was like cool right. Oh i'm getting paparazzi unpopular. I'm important. I feel good now. Hey i had bro. Waiting in line to shoes from nike in this girl starts is. Tmz comes into sticks. His cameron are facing just starts asking some like just weird shit about like farting fetish. Or something i. I was like hey while this is incredibly stimulating. I'd love to stand here and give my shoes and go home again peace. She was nice. She left but i am fascinated by the I don't know if it's inability but pozzi really doesn't give a fuck about space or so. Is it a conflict of interest. Because i know bieber's had a lot of run ins with brasi. He tells them off all the time. He has conversations. What are you doing. This job isn't for you. I can't believe you're doing this. I can't tell you how many hours i have watched justin bieber go talk me and you're just sit there and there's sometimes we'll lead them and they'll just close the door. I di- no echo. Funny kid gets old. It gets so you're a master forming these relationships but is there ever a conflict of interest in what what's with the paparazzi. No i don't. I don't wanna put words beavers mouth but you know. Sometimes the paparazzi makes him feel uncomfortable. And you're good friends with one of those people. Yeah is a conflict of interest. oh Oh you mean with kevin one. Yeah oh well like bieber wherever like. Hey johnny like with this guy. Tougher time again is sitting outside. A restaurant just took my wife on a date. Yeah well kevin is not one of those guys. Kevin is a nice guy. Like actually don't know. I think Yeah kevin I remember one those other night. Yeah yeah i remember. Jake was at boa once. Jake was at boa wants and And and i guess. Kevin try to interview and jake didn't want to deal with it so jake walk right past them and kind of give him. But it didn't really know him that much and just didn't want to deal with it right just like you don't want the justice sometimes sometimes circumstantial but but but kevin texts me. Hey just ahead of next time. You tell jake till my apologize. Tell like that's the kind of guy he now some of these other guys you know. Maybe these newer ones are the ones who are just really thirsty. They get in your face you know and they are the asked dumb questions. You know what i mean like. I've seen some 'paparazzi guys. Ask them questions you know. Some sometimes like fifteen sixteen year old tiktokers. I'm like whoa linguist. Want to know about this next video police. But here's my. Here's the way. I've always looked at and not to not to compare the two not to compare them perfectly but the garbage man when he comes to pick up the garbage sometimes comes at seven thirty in the morning. The can smash on the ground solo. I don't wanna hear that shit sleeping. But guess what it's a necessary service and people and people are making money off doing that service and so right and so things app and so when you look at paparazzi their their consumers to that content. And there's a whole industry behind it so well medium may not like it. The industry exists right. And so i think it comes down to people like kevin who understand that there is a boundary that exists and to respect the. Obviously we remember me. And you remember the story of princess di and we've seen. How far posses overreaction can can lead in that space. I wanna. I wanna tie back just a little bit to business building because this is what we're talking about earlier. How do you help. someone like heaven wong. I know you're not with them. From from a business perspective cre- a product. Because the way that the way i've always looked at Real influence in this world and especially building a brand around your influences. If you can't make someone feel something you don't have shit that has always been my belief on so if you can't make someone feels something viscerally inside them from witnessing your your content whether it's inspiration discuss whatever it is some sort of visceral reaction or bond to your content. It's very hard to then sell product to them. So how would you instruct someone out there who doesn't make content that shows a personality or creates that bond to sell a product. Yeah depends and that's a great question you know. I don't think everyone has an answer. Like if i had an answer for every youtube or what product they should sell like. You know what. I mean like you'd be you know like i think it just hits. You sometimes just randomly hits you like you know. Sometimes it's simple sometimes. Okay dr dre. You're a producer. You have a ear for music. You should have headphones. There's no one who owns a headphone space yet. In i mean okay. Let's do it. Yeah sometimes a no brainer beyond me but sometimes it's like you know what i mean. Sometimes it just hits you. I mean like. I mean the flavored sugar. Water that fifty cents so you know. They would vitamin water. Something something random. I don't know what the answer is for. Say kevin wong specifically but i think something hit him one day. You know don't could be anything. I mean i wanna who who the first Social media star or social media based person will be with the first billion dollar brand You think it be full. Said i think if you re false and i think it'd be one of you guys. I think it could be lelio. Cupid thinking it'd be james charles. Laser machine You've been on the layla train from bam near day one. She became a she became. She went from viner to one of the biggest latin stars in the world. do that you know Obviously we've got a great team when it comes to music interscope but at the end of the day lilies talented. She was here. she likes sixty percent. Johnny and sammy forty percent me like now. She's talented she did nine years opera. She had music. He didn't just wake up one day. I wanted to do music. You know what. I mean like she has. She didn't she wanted to be a musician. She actually got her. Uncle is a very very popular. Latin artists cheyenne like like a legend in the latin community. He made a video. Our last song like blew up in the latin world so like she knows her family's music music i mean is this she got sidetracked a little bit with buying you know when she signed up for vine and blew up you know when she was sixteen years old or so but latoya's just talented so he's got a podcast multifaceted age. She's she's got real comedy in her. She's a comic like she's not like she's got like you know she's actually in person. Sometimes non video you know. I mean like some of the things that come out of her mouth. What why she killed okay entertaining. Are y'all leaning hard into the latin market Because it it. Looks like from an outsider's perspective. It looks like like i noticed. When she really started to the dive into that market she went from. You know the twenty million followers and going to throw out all the sudden four forty five ish. She's not at forty five million. I think she probably the probably one of the most followed If not the most followed social basically star on the planet so yeah is it because of that international. Reach that helped when she because she also hosted The number one T shown mexico a couple years ago. Lavalas which is the voice mexico. It's and she was the host and this is like i think it was like i forget the numbers but like someone like twelve or fifteen million viewers every monday watch the show and she was the main host of this show. So that's the only picture difficult blow up a look at the next one though the global spotify chart right. Oh my god. I with this one. No no no no not here. Yeah the air. She has the number twenty three song on the global spotify song continues to rise pain on the. She showed me before it was released. She she's someone at play here. Well she took me. Aside in hyde for years ago hammered so drunk And she goes logan. I gotta tell you something when we're in the back corners me and late. I what is what to expect. There is such a weird timing thing a deep. You know she goes. I want to be a big musician star nutrition. I want to be an artist in and make music. I said that's like we're just making at the time. Right and comedy sketches and she goes. I don't want to show you my song. And she showed me one of her. First songs dawned how good she was. It's so cool to see her be fruitful with that talent because we know even though you and i know so many people everyone. La everyone's fucking talented here. Yeah but being able to use that utilize it and pivot in a way where you can have the number twenty three global song in the world to see her. Come up man. Whatever you guys did behind the scenes in that admirable one other thing too with her in What one thing that's helped it's obviously starts. I think it starts number one talent to is the team. That's built around there. But the third is the latin audience. Loves her. like there's not a single hate that comes from like mexico colombia argentina. Spain like they like. I've been to like Latin events with latin and Latin billboards and like when she walks the red carpet like everyone is like. Oh lily pond late like they just. I think they love that. That that craziness humor some people in the general market in the. Us might be like oh. She's not funny. She said you know some some people you know. I mean like most people lover but some people in just my big get this comedy because a soul latin that like the latin world loves her. You know i mean. That's a huge audience there. I mean there's a billion people from k. Latinos from canada down to chile north and south as north central and south america's billion. That's the population of china is the population of latinos. When you you add up the americas together. I mean and they adore her audience. If you're making domestic content in the united sates right now and you come from a latin culture or any any any culture outside of america and you are not playing into that culture and a heavyweight from a marketing standpoint. You're making a massive fucking mistake because those because those audiences are so rabid and so supportive of the idea of someone from their their country making it here domestically in america that idea of making it in america continues to be such a globally dreamed upon and rooted for thing and so see her. Do that has been great. But i see i see other artists who do not do a good enough job Yeah yeah. I think that that also helps her to write like when she successful in america and she's like coming on impulsive and you know you guys mess with me and it's like. Oh wow that's i mean someone in mexico or someone you know and peru is like whoa. There's a there's a impulsive fan down there sees lanes like wow lately made it. You know. I mean impulsive fox with their. You know what. I mean like stem. That's how you know best how you know you made you come on this. Show ryan garcia. Did it guess what next fight first round knockout next fight first round. Knockout this show. This show makes birth stars. Go ahead take all the credit for labor. Are you leaning into anwar in the middle east Yeah i mean. I mean i mean that's that's just what anwar th that's what anwar wants us culture. You know he's He's palestinian and you know he's You know when he goes out to He went to palestine last year summer. And same thing like this mob of people and i was very similar when you went to remember how crazy that was like. That's what happens with anwar magin anwar. You got asked a lot. When i was in dubai. Yea went to a week after you did and it was like. Yeah yeah yeah but yeah and you know make sense there and You know that that someone else. That's just pure comedy anwar needs to stand up like we need a rate stand. Get him and while you do it too if you're gonna do like standup classes. Please please georgia. We want wanted to be. We don't want it to be big but a lot of shots from you today buddy. Always know georgia's like now. I understand your your branch shots. I get it understand it. I love georgia. We talked to for a second about a very comedic person. That's in your life. Sammy shahidi what is it. Been like building a a powerhouse of a brand new studio with brother. Yeah let me tell you. The difference between me and sam is going back to our earlier conversations. I am the ideas guy. I'm the guy who's just gonna sit and twirl thumbs by. Oh all right great. Yes that works. That's great idea. And then then call. Sam sam just makes it happen. You know. I mean you know or tells me like hey actually. I don't think it's a good idea because this and that are you know by the way you know. You know someone's already doing that. Your idea is actually not an idea. It's already been done. Oh man. I mean like salutes on the ground because i spent a decent time with sammy see amount a lot. He's he's a little bit different than you and you're in a in a relationship. Obviously and he has told me he is kind of anti relationship. He likes the idea of being out there. Like when you leave dinner at catch after sitting with kyle and the rest of the full sent team you go home you know to the to the relationship with them goes out. He's the boots on the ground. You need that right. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah yeah you know. That sam's great for that You know that's where we're different Very different there but You know he's He's always been like that he's always been and my mom. My mom's dad Which will never met she. He passed away. My mom was five but he was a We're we're families. Kurdish general for the kurdish army. But he would. My mom told my grandma used to tell me a story was her husband that he would run the army at nights and then party till six eight m and then get up at seven. Am and run the army. I mean i was like wait a minute. That sounds familiar. that's crazy. I don't know how. I think it's a genetic thing sam. Yeah you guys do a cartoon right now. We have a we have a. We have a children's programming. Um no puppet show fucking hilar- with rudy it's great. It's it's it's like our therapy. It's like the things that you can't really say. I mean pop it's consistent. Yeah could get with. Everything can maybe. I'll let me see if i can find something. It's got a youtube dot com slash. Puppets you've had conversation will not you rudy has had conversations with floyd mayweather has one point five million subscribers. I remember rudy trying doing this on you. Guys are barely scratching because this stuff is a hailee steinfeld. This is craig floyd mayweather. Go to the doctor mike tyson. Yeah dr one went completely viral on instagram. I so the instagram has all of us but You just watch it. Am i going to get copyright a commercial stand. World champion boxer. I'm former world champion. What do you mean. Well the last fight that i thought that was the money fight lasts. Come on bro. Last for real absolutely. That's like the fifth time you said that. Third three strikes. You're is real peru. Or am i going to hear in the news tomorrow. You're finding somebody else. Oh absolutely nuts. i'll go. The doctor was out loud. You got to watch the whole thing or you. Watch dr one hundred hilar- let me tell you the story of what makes this. Floyd mayweather wants special as this was his exclusive first interview after he beat conor mcgregor. Like before kimmel in or anything. This was the first interview he did after a couple days after mcgregor fight so i by that all right so you started with would star power and then move to a place in our creative julius because this stuff is handled doctor for your annual checkup. Yes good good for we get started. How's everything been you know still married so pretty shitty pro you know they say secret to a happy marriage remains a secret at At at doesn't help me at all. Do you smoke. you sure. you're not sure i mean. I occasionally have a cigarette or like a or crack. It's yes or no question diego. Okay yes do you drink. Sure i mean like a casualty like at a party or wedding or something like that like my house alone every night. What are you. Drink a glass of wine at dinner. Okay that's healthy in shadow tequila. Okay and then another shot And then a few more and then some more. And then i usually pass out. Then i wake up and i take a few more pro something about watching this. Puppet talk about his. Alcoholism is very soothing You guys are awesome. It's great i so what do you do. What do you do with this. Just keep making a develop it into some sort of law for show we. We've we've talked about that idea eh. Before covid we were actually working on short film movie We had rudy You know who wrote the script and you know it was supposed to you know but obviously because production reasons had to be on hold but now we're just making these short videos and this format is great because it's perfect ready. Internet yet doesn't make the craziest amount of money. But it's more fun. And i mean and we're just building a brand and eventually maybe becomes a Family guy south park simpson's type of thing. The videos are getting more views than some some bloggers blogs like plus million views. Are you are you in a union. Brother like yin and yang. Would you say it sounds a good balance between you. Bet that forms a good solid team. Yeah yeah i mean we are. You know i mean obviously you butt heads a lot too because your brother so your lot alike call each other certain things or you know like tell someone i mean like. You don't have to be politically correct if someone has shitty idea you tell to. You know. I mean you don't have to like you know. Beat around the bush you just say your idea sucks. How'd you even think of that. You know you're allowed to say that your brother when my brother lot manage interesting What's that like. We just took jake under your wing. And if i'm not mistaken the very first day. Officially were managing him. His house got raided by the fbi to go trick. Let me tell you the You know a lot of people. Ask me why jake. Why what were you thinking and let me the one thing. I can tell you about jake and i know you know the slogan but i want everyone listening to know this is jake is What people don't know. I'm gonna. I wanted sheri mayweather story. You know that. reminds me of a lot of the type of person. Jacobs jake to the world might come off as you know internet's villain but jake is also the kind of guy that one day heaven forbid. I have a friend of mine who may be too. But i'm just showing it as an example. If i were to have a friend who was struggling you know with an illness and if they needed something and i told jake about his first thing would be. How can i help you know. That's the kind of person jacobs off the camera. Yeah i mean like you wanted to be you know. I know so many different people like dude. I don't wanna hear about this so negative. I'm sorry but i mean. I know jake would be like what do i need to do. I'm sorry i mean he could be in the middle of training middle something you know. I mean that's kind of you know. I mean that's the kind of person i've known in you and your and your brother and you know that's the number one reason i was like all right. Jake wants to work together. He could use some help. I'm in because i know the real jake. paul reminds me of a story. This floyd mayweather story that i've never shared publicly but my first meeting ever with floyd mayweather we were. We went to this To this diner and the deal with him was enough. You know there was an official dealer anything yet. We were just hanging out figuring out ways to work together and we went to this diner in downtown. Las vegas and And they all obviously knew him. It was like this place he always goes to. I was with them. And there was this lady our waitress and He knew her she knew him and And at the end of our We had a dinner was like three or four am but At the end of at the end of the meal he asked her. I forgot her name but he asked her. He goes hey I just have a question to ask you and this is. This lady was a bigger bigger lady. You know like You know just just very overweight and ask them. Hey i'm question. If you had all the money in the world what what would you do. And she goes. I would get myself out of credit card. Debt fly now not debt. Like what would you do to really improve your life. And she got embarrassed and she goes. Oh it's a real embarrassing but I would actually get a breast reduction. Because i'm so large. It makes it hard for me to do any kind of cardio work in. It's affecting you know my working out. And i can't work out and you know like that's why i'm the size that i am. Goes honey mushy thing. That would cost us. Like i don't know so i don't know what you think. Six thousand seven. So i probably somewhere around there. I never had a chance. Look you know. I work graveyard at a diner in las vegas. We the dinner was done and he goes into a bag. He takes out a stack. Ten thousand dollars cash and puts it under The the the envelope where the bills angles. Let's go and i go. Wow what that is incredible. I i mean like this. You know what we should call the press we should. We should let people know you did. I know you are not to ever do that. No one could ever know that i ever do that. That's for me. You heard though he's like he's like you know. People are gonna wanna watch me fight because i wanna see me lose. Because they don't like me. That's i'm gonna make this money. Oh damn in house. Like wow know like all right. i'll just. He's going back ten thousand dollars off camera before youtube ever did it Is there a chance that he did that. Knowing that it would plant the seed for you to tell that story one day here on in fact he's gonna see stuff that one rule he said. Don't tell anybody. Ten years ago. Ten and a half years ago. So i could tell the story now because i wanted people to understand who these people are when it's not when they're not in front of the cameras you know what i mean like so many people don't know these stories so they just make the assumption. I can't tell you how many people text me. What are you thinking working with jake. Paul and i'm like you know. Can you tell me you know what i mean like. You don't know jake like jake. You're just going off fed. Fbi raid and you know parties. At house i mean you don't know the type of person he is off camera. It's people believe what they see now when they only see or are fed a certain narrative. Sometimes i mean you can't blame them when when when people tell me like a ninja just made up made a comment. I think we have here. Lord yeah ninja. Made a comment talking about why he chose twitch over youtube. Gaming said youtubers such a bad name. I don't wanna say bad name. It's just the news. No one ever reports on a youtube or getting a million live viewers. Five hundred thousand plus live on a stream or raising millions of dollars for charity. When someone like logan paul f out right. it's youtuber. this youtuber. This youtuber this. And so i have my my instagram. I fuck ninja. Well known anything about you bad about you. But he could've used anyone like like no but you have the most historic. Is that why it's severity. Way of my mistake was the biggest. I totally. i totally get it. It was just so long for someone who's like so far removed from it. My knee jerk reaction like my ego steps out of my body right. But he's right he's right. My name has a weight that is carried by my actions Because people were only fed a story that i chose to deliver them. So i can't be mad but when he said in that quote to is that if someone on youtube fox up drags the platform. This wasn't about you. Just use you as a horse for his to carry his story. Which is that. If someone on youtube fox up it becomes a youtube thing. It becomes a problem with youtube as a platform and he says when a youtube or fucks up. Its youtube this youtube that. Yeah the stigma of being youtuber. I i would presume. He's saying it does. Yeah that's what. I'm saying twitch austria you or just has a nice title that fit that fits well But i i get what he's saying so so it's tough because you sleep in the bed you make you sleep in the bed. You make and jake can't complain when when he's only doing certain things that the media decides to pick up and they're a and tell a certain way. Because i know that. Jake that off camera jake though we all we all talk about in this room and i do hope that one day both of us will get to a place where people like these people like these are they will dynamic complex human beings. Look get justin bieber now. Everyone was just getting holy. Now is i mean but people you know you know kind of like after a while. We're like i mean like after so many years like this is a good guy. You know what i mean like had the media. Were twisting things and overreacting on certain things justin was doing but after some time. This is a good guy. leave him alone. that's what it is to. I mean it. It comes with a track record of breaking the mold that you've set for yourself logan. It wasn't just time that fixes image. It was a great podcast. We had great conversation at the. It's worth work. Most importantly it was now fucking up. You no one. No one's going to forgive jake in the same month period that he had an fbi rate a covid part sponsored party. Like that's not gonna happen and take someone like you who comes in grabs the wheel as the car's driving off the cliff straightens it out and then he drives down that street and does good stuff. Good stuff good stuff for three years five years and they say jake paul's reformed. He's like his brother went through the same growth or or it. Everybody left him alone. Or are you trying to go down that route. Because are you trying to take. The of people are going to buy the jake paul. Fight this j. Paul and his and his fans will continue to be has been you know. I think there's a balance between right. Like i think there's a there's a balance between you know You know no no one wants to see the you know the good nice guy family guy walking into you know to the the arena to fight with you know in a bible in hand son daughter you know know i mean like no one wants to see that person you know i mean. We saw that one pack. Yeah right like at great fighter but he was like a family man like you never sold nearly as many fights as say like floyd or some of these other people historically and he was a great fighter. Who got beat by floyd. But you know he's still was a great fighter but ended numbers. I mean don't you know he did a ton of numbers yearly yearly. You see value in someone who drives five hundred million people to watch a fight or sorry. Fifty million people to watch a fight but delivering a message about christianity and family values versus one hundred million to watch a fight who's delivering a message of. I'm gonna fuck everybody tonight. When i when i leave. This question is thrown out the window as soon as you talk about the fight game. I mean rose really. There's no it's a five game. Yeah in an ideal world sure. The winner of the fight ends his victory speech with a gospel him. But fuck that roller. Look at look at the numbers. Logan did coming off that situation that happened. You know what i mean like. Look at those numbers. I mean already laundry. Pays the bills like so should we. Should we prime up another scandal over you. Think or nothing good on the mavericks. If he wants to fight you know maybe say ride. The pok mon wave right now. Okay good back right now flying. It's been good. It's been good to watch to watch. Mayweather do and he. He's completely reshot. Retired now right out the game completely. I mean ask what do you mean do what do you mean sorry. I didn't take silence. So as manager. Jeff but i was always curious. Maybe why you didn't have a partner you know and all of a sudden one day i see you got a girlfriend girlfriend. A longtime girlfriend that turns into a fiancee and you the happiest and most content of ever seen in your life. And i'm so envious and in happy for a year as well because there's a level of patients in i. Guess just trust in life that you have to have my person's coming i just saw it on the bachelorette but for the oldest bachelorette ever she thirty nine. She found her person. You find your as a forty forty years old. She's in this room she's over there. She's always been so kind to me before. I usually never knew you guys. Were you guys were involved. But i mean how. Wow congrats thanks. How'd you guys meet. We met at her restaurant. You manage the restaurant And with her did you have a line or some. 'cause 'cause she probably gets hit all the time right like like every time i when i was single of course would deliver a line to a waitress like a pretty waitress. They hear this all the time. Oh i know. I know i know i know. She big baller. I'm yeah for me. I i talking to managers how it is joe. Let me speak to the manager does that. She's that person you know. I i you know one day. The bus just hit me. You know like. I met her and you got hit by boston. She came to the hospital. Like love right like i hit by. The arrow just happened type. Shit guess bullshit. No cap cabinet at this point. So you got hit by. Cupid's were you boo. boos or ribbon. No no no. No yeah no you. Did you have a line do you guys fall into. Because i'm bro. I know she hears this all the time right. She works at a very prominent. La restaurant with successful good looking men passing through there the time. So how'd you do it. We exchanged information And then you know you know and we just went on a couple dates and then I tell the whole story. No i can't not. She was seeing somebody at the time. Yeah and then Then it's all history and we're getting married next year that's trying to wait. Post covid I don't think we we scheduled everything pre covid. So i think we're you know you've got this phone it. We didn't have to postpone though it's it's in the summer of twenty twenty one so we're lucky then but we're just hoping you know things you know we'll see how things go. Hopefully visor comes through. I mean we're really five million dollars a stock right after his announcement five million shrink. That's thank you for dinner tonight. Do seven thirty pm yes next. Billion dollar idea. Yes is that right. Yes fun wear catch that catch by every time i go i see you and your top with different people and are generally ask awesome. Yes that's the magic of johnny. Yeah we didn't talk about them. Registering evolved yoyo. Yeah how how much is too much like you. Are you involved with so many people. Are you doing too much. No i mean no because this is the thing. One is involved with people that i enjoy working with. Nothing feels like a chore. Like i'm actually enjoying everyone's different in their own ways right like that dinner. When i was with the energy fam- is like you know like i learned so much from these guys like it's a whole different world and these guys. Are you know pretty much only focused on fortnight and call of duty but this like gaming e sports world is just so crazy because it's like not just fourteen call duty like it so much bigger with all these other leagues and organizations and is just only the beginning when it comes to e sports. And i'm just like so happy to be a part of it part of them and then just witnessing this like you know this new vertical of life crazy right. It's crazy it's in. I mean look. I mean look at like mr piece. For instance like his gaming channel nights i think it was. I was ahead the fastest channel. The hit two million subscribers and that belittled me it embarrassed dwarfed always. I stopped like yeah. It's crazy he's killing the the sports industry. Yeah we gotta do maverick gaming may thanks for coming out false. Podcast the worse yet. You're you're my best friend. Man yes they. I can't wait to see you catch soon. Yes is trying to get an invite for tonight. Yeah i don't want to be a part of your coming money might i. I don't even know who's going. I supposed to go with mike. And he's like get a table for six. I was like oh surprise. Surprise guy said that subscribe button if not subscribed and we'll see next week take it easy bye.