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CPAC's Matt Schlapp Discusses the Political Climate of New Hampshire
"Joining us now is the man behind cpac, great organization and also really understands what's happening in the midterm elections. Better than almost anybody else. Matt schlapp joins us right now. Matt, welcome back to the program. Hey, Charlie, great to be with you from loud New Hampshire. Tell us, what is the vibe on the ground? Do you think both can pull this off? Yeah, for sure. Talked with the general. We just had a town hall in this tavern, and I just came from Nevada, by the way, Adam laxalt is closing really strong in New Hampshire. A lot of people have been tracked New Hampshire because the D.C. insiders didn't they told us it wasn't a pickup opportunity, but I'm here to tell you, Charlie. General's going to win this race in New Hampshire. If you look at just the environment of the issues, it all goes our way. It's all just about defending America. So in New Hampshire, it's a tricky state because Matt you and I have heard for years that New Hampshire is possibly able to be won by Republicans, but it always feels like a near miss state. Why do you think this year is different? Well, I think this year is different because just look at the fundamentals in polling on what the people care about. It really cuts our way. New Hampshire, you know, the big mistake we make in America as we say, oh, there's red states and we say there's blue states. And we assume that some kind of like a lifetime contract, but politics is different. You know that 'cause you're down there in Arizona. It's always changing and what I've noticed just being on the ground in a short time in New Hampshire is what made New Hampshire solidly Republican in previous cycles. I think, is it play again? Our constitution our basic rights as citizens are right to govern ourselves and our own lives and for the government to get out. And not dictate every part of our life. You know, there's a libertarian flair to that that really plays well in a state that whose motto is live free or die.
Tulsi Gabbard Says She's Leaving the Democratic Party
"Am delighted to welcome our guest today Jack the sobic. Jack the Soviet is a political commentator and a senior editor at human events. Jack, thanks for joining us. Danielle, thanks so much for having me. Congrats to you, by the way, filling in for the big man while he's away. Yes, thank you, Jack. Yes, the big man, not the big guy, because I don't want to be a guy. Little hunter. Absolutely. Aw, well, thank you, Jack. Well, Jack, you have such fascinating insights, so I want to start by getting your reaction to Tulsi Gabbard recently posting on her Twitter that she's leaving the Democrat party. Listen, I can no longer remain in today's Democratic Party that's under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers who were driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue and stoking anti white racism, who actively work to undermine our God given freedoms that are enshrined in our constitution, who are hostile to people of faith and spirituality, who demonize the police, but protect criminals at the expense of law abiding Americans, who believe in open borders who weaponize the national security state to go after their political opponents and above all who are dragging us ever closer to nuclear war. Now, I believe in a government that's of the people by the people and for the people. Unfortunately, today's Democratic Party does not. Instead, it stands for a government that is of by and for the powerful elite. Now, I'm calling on my fellow common sense independent minded Democrats to join me in leaving the Democratic Party. If you can no longer stomach the direction that the so called woke Democratic Party ideologues are taking our country, and I invite you to join me. So Jack, I want to get your reaction. Well, I think it's very interesting. So Tulsi Gabbard and if we remember correctly, she did resign all the way back in 2016 as the vice chair of the Democratic Party. And so to see her now leaving the party completely, it doesn't come as a huge surprise. I think a lot of people saw this move coming. It's something that she's certainly telegraphed. I mean, she's spoken at cpac. She's guest hosted for Tucker Carlson. She's appeared to events with myself with James O'Keefe and others. I've had the chance to talk with her offline a little bit. She's definitely writing this wave
Lord Conrad Black on the Media's Lambasting of Italy's Giorgia Meloni
"Let's focus at the recent events in Europe. This was Giorgio maloney, the incoming prime minister speaking earlier this year, at cpac. And I think we've ascertained why it is they hate her so much. This is cut 12. The successful political candidate, the conservative, Georgia meloni. People understand that in this age, the only way of being rebels is to preserve what we are. The only way of being rebels is to be conservatives. Is the same all over the world. So called progressive. Use the power and the arrogance of their mainstream media to force their political opponents to change, to be allowed into their inner circles, except that once the right wing men and women are admitted into progressive inner circles, they will have changed so much that conservative people will no longer recognize them and will stop supporting them. And that's exactly what they want. A right wing on a leash. That's what they want a right wing on a leash. When you look at the censorship of the Hunter Biden story, the raid of Mar-a-Lago on and on et Al. Perhaps these are the reasons that she has been so lambasted by the left wing media because of statements like that one, lord black. Yeah, I think that is very likely right. And actually, I thought what she said was a skillful adapt analysis. And this attempt to describe her as fascist is just the reflex that we have in almost all of these countries. I mean, in fairness, the British and Canadians being relatively more moderate than vandy that we're in so much. But and you Americans are overachievers. But from fascist Nazi, which is, of course, even more odious as it connotes genocide. But this is the shorthand we're in. Anyone who is not supposedly progressive, although we now see from the floundering of the Biden administration that progressive policies lead to economic regression and procession. Anyone who is not on the progressive bandwagon, it won't do to call them a conservative. That's not defamatory enough. You have to call them the fascist.
Jim Hanson: We Are the Insurgents in an Occupied Country
"People saw that life under woke rule life under social Democrat or whatever you want to call their version of socialism was destroying their country. And they said, maybe we should stop. I mean, the motto for Georgia maloney was God family country. And she said the following, she said, number one, the rebels are now the conservatives in her secret speech. And I've been saying for years that ironically, we are the cool kids, right? The counterculture hippies have become the fascists running the FBI. And now the cult counterculture is us. It is the conservatives. And she went on to say that we're the rebels. Let me run that past you first. What do you think of that comment from cpac? A 100% agree. We are the insurgents in an occupied country. Our republic has been occupied by woke neo marxists. And we're trying to take it back. And we have to fight that way. So if you want to win this culture war, then go ahead and assume we're at that big a disadvantage and act like it. But the nice thing is, the people are rising. We are ascendant. That's the wonderful feeling for me, is everywhere you go. More people have seen that life under Democrat rule sucks.
What Is Grant Stinchfield Up To?
"First things I get, we get this question. I saw you lasted at cpac in person. We've talked since then. What's grant up to these days? Yeah, well, it was a little bit of a shocker by show on newsmax got canceled. You know, we were doing 8 o'clock and we were doing real well anywhere between the second or third highest rated show on the network and of course they moved Greg Kelly to 10 o'clock and my show got bumped to Greta van susteren in, so I instantly started a scramble, right? And the scrambling, I've always been a hustler. I've always been able to make money. I've had businesses in the side. I just sold a trucking company about a year ago. I owned auto care shops before that's why I start the hustle process, but I said, you know what, I don't want to get out of this media business. I'm loving the fight for this country and it's so important right now. Probably now, more than ever, as you well know, Doug. So I'm happy to say that within the next few weeks, we'll be announcing a new streaming platform that's going to be big. And there's a lot of high dollar conservatives putting some money behind this streaming platform. I will be unleashed finally able to talk about a lot of things that I couldn't talk about on newsmax. And of course, we're going to continue to bring the fight to the left. So the streaming platform is going to be really, really big. I'm excited about it. And they're not going to keep me down. That's for sure, Doug.
Conservatives Need to Look Beyond Trumpism for Guidance
"Why should people come to our team? What is it? And here's the thing. No offense at all to Donald Trump. If he's the candidate next time, I will back him to the hilt. Heck, I would back a yellow dog before I would vote for any Democrat. But Trump is the one who did this. We just can't rely on trumpism as a governing philosophy. I could love the man. We can say he did, he gave us three Supreme Court Justices. He saved the republic because it's true. But what we have to have is now something that goes beyond him. All right? He can be of it, but we have to have a bigger thing. And I think national conservatism can offer that. And I think there's a statement of principles that the website and it's not going to surprise anybody. It's essentially a return to the founding principles of this country, but extremely well articulated. What I want to tell you about this national conservatism conference in Miami was it's kind of like cpac is a big party for our team. You know, everybody goes, you see your Friends, you see all the radio hosts you like. You see all that kind of stuff. And we all hang out. That's one part of the movement. That's the populist movement. That's vital. That's how we get together and build momentum. But what this was was kind of the academic intellectual wing of our team. These are the people who write the weighty tomes, the big old books full of the ideas that explain how Edmund Burke crusty old, I think he was Irish. But whatever. He's a Brit of some flavor. How his ideas now can be translated into what we stand for and what we're doing. What is America first? What is maga? And really now what I want to ask you to consider is what is national conservatism.
The Political Execution of the Trump Raid
"I could talk about the plight of the black community and degeneracy all day long, but I want to switch subjects real quick. Because I read the affidavit and I didn't get a chance to speak on it because the affidavit came out when I wasn't on the radio. But there's no way that this affidavit for the search warrant that occurred at Trump's residence is not political. I don't care if Trump was wrong. Their execution is political. He bit out of office. They waited until an election year. When I say election year, I mean the midterm election year. And then they didn't do it at the beginning of the year. Because they were informed on January something, a February, I think is when they executed the first subpoena, February. They waited till after cpac to try to go in his house. And the thing is, it's weird to me is because this seems like a matter that's not of criminal nature. It doesn't seem to be. Because either Trump didn't go through the right means to declassify things or he declassified things and it's such a unilateral authority by the president of the United States of America that he actually have flexibility to do stuff that may not be tracked properly. Can not be tracked properly or whatever case and B and therefore the FBI is running on something without full information as to did he declassify this stuff or not. Because I didn't see clearly an affidavit that denying the fact that he declassified anything. And I could have missed over because I really just read the first civil pages before the heavy redaction. I just think it's shameful. I'm sick of it to be honest. I'm sick of what's going on. With president Trump, I just hope that people pay the price.
Glenn and Leigh of Patriot Mobile Tell Their Side of the Story
"Another group that's coming in hot because they've been in hot water a little bit this year and this week. Is Glenn's story and Leigh Wong guests from patriot mobile with the CEO and the VP of government affairs because NBC, we talked about this yesterday, they are going hard against patriot mobile and what was the headline, right? It was the far right Christian cell phone provider that is taking over Texas school boards. I want to get them on to get their side of the story because boy, they are really mad that the rights and really just common sense regular Christian folks because this is the fight of our country and here patriot mobile is one company that is willing to stand up. Glenn Lee, welcome to the program. Thank you for having us. Jack, thank you for having us. It's always great to see you. Oh, it's great. We were just down at cpac together. We did an incredible event. We did the book signing. We had my antifa book. We just did a segment talking about some of the stuff that was in the NT support, by the way. Kenosha, but first, tell us what was it that you all were up to with the Texas school boards, and then explain why at NBC is so mad at you guys. Well, NBC being mad at us is not a new thing. And this particular reporter has a history of being very interesting with facts, but the bottom line is what happened Monday night in Texas. Is elected officials did in an elected position. What they said, they were going to do when they ran for office. And neither the left nor the right is used to that.
The Politics of Race in America
"You know, I think this country needs a conservative who happens to be black. Let me make sure that I'm clear on that. I don't care about no race or nothing, but I think that tactically to fight the left, they're either needs to be a president who happened to be black or a vice president who happened to be black and even a female. A lot of people talk about Candace Owens and, you know, it's just that we got to balance the approach. And let me tell you this. Let me tell you why. Some people who may not have grown up in a diverse background, meaning that you have never been a part of the black community. You know, different areas where you live at and you see how people think. You may think we should just be completely colorblind and everybody should just, I think we should, but that's not reality. When you are growing up as a young black man in America and you are getting these influences that are telling you that you're different, that are telling you that you don't belong, they talk about the history in such a way that it feels as if you just now got access to the American Dream in the 60s. You know, it's incredibly difficult to come out of that environment and flourish when I say flourish. I mean, psychologically flirts. Be open to see black people doing different stuff or other possibilities.
Stop Resisting Arrest
"If you don't want to do the crime and get your ashy elbows whipped, if you don't want to if you can't handle that pressure then don't go through it. Listen, man, if you don't want to get beat up by the police, then just even if they wrong or right, do you want to get beat up? Because you're not going to win. See, some people kill, they shoot the cop, right? And so cops have to fear where the person is going to try to kill them or not. And that's why you can't play in the middle with people. You start playing around and you start losing, they take your gun and kill you, you don't go home to your family.
Is There More to the Arkansas Police Video?
"We're talking about the Arkansas police beat down. Some people think it's justified some people think it's not justified last time I checked, you have innocence and to prove and guilty. So whether they're guilty of police brutality is yet to be seen because we don't see the whole clip and this is the thing that I often say, if you only watching 30 seconds of a clip, then you have to realize there's so much more to the clip and the question is why is there only 30 seconds presented to the public? If you look at an Instagram reel, you can make an Instagram reel a minute. You can make an Instagram Twitter video a minute and 20 seconds. So why is it only 30 seconds that people are sharing across the Internet?
What Should Happen to the Officers From Arkansas?
"Let me get back to the subject at hand, the police involved incident where they were fighting in pretty much whooping the guy on the ground. You know, just with the information I have, I think the most that should be done to those officers are the one who banged the guy's head on the ground a couple of times. I think he should be written up. Do I think these officers should get fired and all of a sudden, I do not. I do not believe so. If the guy was just sitting on the ground minding his business and these guys jumped on him and started beating the living daylights out of him, then yeah, they should all be fired. But when you're involved in a physical altercation with somebody and it's escalating and he's not complying and you get amped up and you start accelerating your force just a little more than what's acceptable, you know, I understand what we call operational momentum. We're dealing with human beings. We're not dealing with computers. So people are going to get agitated. Police officers are going to escalate a little bit. Sometimes when the fight is on, it's an intense situation, there's been violence, an officer has been hurt. Due to this altercation, but the guidance sustaining the life threatening injuries and the guy was a dirtbag.
Arkansas Officers Suspended With Pay After Beating Caught on Video
"I got to talk about the police officers out of Kansas, right? Arkansas, I want to say Kansas for some reason. I almost want to say our Kansas, but they are from Arkansas. It was a video that has gone viral, where it appears to be police officers just beating the mess out of somebody. In a 32nd clip. Let me just clarify this for the audience. Whenever you see a clip that's 30 6 seconds or whatever, I want you to pump the brakes. I don't care what's in the clip. I want you to pump the brakes and begin to ask questions. Now, the solution or the conclusion to your question asking and your research may inevitably be what you originally expected in the video. Or it may be something totally different. Pump the brakes, give it a couple taps on the brakes. And go back and think about these very crucial things. If I'm watching cops beat up a guy in the video, the video is only 34 seconds. Is the totality of the interaction only 34 36 seconds or whatever that clip was. The one I saw I think was 36 seconds. Is this the totality of the situation that has occurred? If the answer is no, then you have to ask a few more questions. You say, oh, that's interesting. Well, what happened before the video started? Because I know you know, and Stevie Wonder can see that police officers aren't just appearing out of thin air on top of a person beating them. Something must have happened before this point.
Mark Robinson: Trump Shows What America Can Do When Put First
"Anybody who listened to your speech at cpac should not have been surprised by what happened at Mar-a-Lago just the other day or what happened to Congress from Scott Perry yesterday. Absolutely not. These folks are coming after us with everything that they have. They are really trying to make an example out of president Trump, this president Trump scares the heck out of this guy because and I'm going to tell you what I believe is to be taught. It's because he showed what America can do when you put America first. When you put the globalist agenda assigned and you put the American people first and unleash their energy, he showed what can happen and it scared the heck out of the global cabal and they want to destroy him.
Trump Is the Man for the GOP
"Let's get back into the conversation about Donald Trump, my theory is that they're trying to pigeonhole him into having information that's prohibited from retaining without returning back to the national archive if they can get him on those charges. He will be barred from holding office and be barred from seeking office in the future. I'm keen on the fact that I think that this was the exact plan to not allow him to run for office. After the cpac, after cpac is normally when you see who emerges as the Republican FrontRunner. Who's going to run for president? Donald Trump swept desantis under the rug. It is clear as the noonday sun that Trump is the man for the GOP.
More on the Trump Witch Hunt
"I think that we're going to continue talking about Donald Trump in a raid at Mar-a-Lago, it was reported Donald Trump made a statement I read a statement earlier, it's very troubling that the left can use leverage from the government to attack their political enemies. Right after cpac, they decided to raid Mar-a-Lago. You know, it's very weird to me because let me tell you this. Donald Trump has cooperated at least he had mentioned he had cooperated with everything they wanted. Why they got a raid his house.
The Case for Ending The Fed With Steve Bannon
"Joining us right now is Steve Bannon. Steve had a very big weekend at cpac Steve. Welcome to the program. I want to play a piece of tape at you at cpac and we'll go from there. Let's play cut ten. We don't need to audit the fed. We need to end the Federal Reserve. The federal reserve has you surf as you surf has usurped its power and the power of the American people in our elective representatives. And no, they do not have the consent of the governor. We will not comply. We will not submit. And it must be ended. Steve, that sounds like Ron Paul, floors yours. Exactly. I hope to take it, you know, he was a great inspiration, but we hope to take it one step up. Ron Paul, who had his entire presidential campaign around about money and currency, you know, is a great warrior and a brave man. I'm not a libertarian. But I understand that the administrative state and particularly the global apparatus is funded by the central banks. And it's outrageous that the evidence today is so much even more overwhelming than when Ron Paul laid it out for us. From 2008 to right now, Charlie, you know, what the $23 trillion they've printed, the 9 and a half trade they put on the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve is just increased the power and concentration of wealth in our nation. 0.5% of the American population own more assets and wealth than the bottom 90%. This is exactly what the framers fought a revolution to avoid. They wanted to get away from the landed aristocracy in Great Britain and the mercantile class in Great Britain. And we are back to this oligarchy. What we have is a combination of state capitalism and authoritarian government
Meghan McCain Calls MAGA Conservatives 'Neanderthals'
"So here's misses Dominick. I want to read to you what she wrote on her Twitter account. Hell of a strategy to whatever the majority voting hell of a strategy to win over the majority voting block of Arizona independence in a general election. Now, she would have stopped there, that would have been fine. It was a valid point. She's talking about, we've got to unite the Republicans in Arizona, right? Then she turns around and she does exactly what she's accusing Carrie Lake of doing. Here's what misses Dominic Meghan McCain said. I know she thinks she's governor already. But you have to win over more people than just cpac, maga Neanderthals to actually win a general election. So misses Dominic pulled a Hillary Clinton, you know, the basket of irredeemable deplorables. And she calls all of you people out there, all you conservatives maga Neanderthals. Now I just want to say something. It's offensive that she would call call people like you and me. Those kinds of words. But I'm not surprised, because she's a nasty person. Her father was a nasty man. Yes, I know. We're not talking about his wartime service. We're talking about his political service. I honor everyone who serves in our military. But that doesn't give John McCain a pass for all of the things he said and did to hurt conservatives. And so I pointed out, she was talking about strategy. And I just asked Meghan McCain, what was her strategy? What was her daddy's strategy? When he betrayed Republicans and conservatives on the ObamaCare repeal. And she blocked me. She didn't even have the guts. She didn't have the courage to even answer the question. It wasn't
"cpac" Discussed on The Charlie Kirk Show
"Matt, you know, talk a little bit about how, at cpac, you have the different components of the movement. I'm always struck by how welcoming it is, libertarians, traditional conservatives, you don't allow the rhinos. I remember last year of the year before, you uninvited Mitt Romney or you didn't allow him at all. Talk a little bit about how all the different components are, but also Matt talk about you got to draw some lines sometimes. Sometimes it's like, you know what? You're really not with us. Yeah, you know, I'm pretty libertarian about things. So when I became in charge of cpac, I thought, well, we'll just kind of let everyone speak and, you know, I was kind of naive. We'll let everyone get a booth and what's the big deal? And I realized over time that there are divisions and I'm a unifying person generally, but not to a point. And we have to draw certain lines. And I think establishment Republican leadership, et cetera, just assumed that they could drop in at cpac and everyone uses and misuses this word conservative. They were a conservative. So we kind of looked at our ratings and we said, hey, we got to get tougher on these ratings because it's true. Every Republican has a great score. But they're never there on the votes that really matter. So we looked at that and we started using the scorecard to invite members and a lot of members fell off the list and they're kind of sore about it and it's kind of simple. You know, Ronald Reagan said, if you're with me 80% of the time, you're with my 8 year my 80% friend. But if you can't be with us, 80% of the time, you kind of suck, Charlie, and you're probably shouldn't get a spotlight at cpac. I couldn't agree.
"cpac" Discussed on Majority 54
"There's a disclaimer here. Warning that this product contains nicotine derived from tobacco and nicotine is an addictive chemical are for. Aren't we relatable corner. This is a little bit different but it is. Maybe the most adorable thing that we've ever done. Which is This is an interview that i conducted the other day with my co author In a new book that comes out. August thirty first. The book is called. Courage is it is a board book for very young kids. We're talking kids who either learning to read or before they can read. This is a book for parents to read to. You know to like two to four year olds and it is a book about having courage in your everyday life and it and my co author is my son. True true is seven years old a little bio on our next guest. He is going into the second grade. He really likes legos and he likes to play shortstop and he loves baseball and his second. Favorite sport is basketball. That's any tries a new food once a month. That's like his courage thing. So with that i give you my interview with my outstanding son. True who's also my co author in this book. Courage is trooper. Welcome to majority fifty four. All right true So we we've written this book. Tell the audience what it was that. Got us thinking about writing this book in the first place. Do you remember the stories that we were making up in bed. Can you tell people about them. These nights at drag goods and we used to combine them. We used to record them so we could boosted them again so at bedtime we would tell these stories of knights and dragons and can you maybe give an example of one of those stories so like when mark and or playing they were really bog. The dragons and i think twin cousins who looked exactly like inception was a quarter inch toddler. And that's how people could tell them apart. Yeah tell us more so citizens story where we had a lesson where they're sharing so mom mall got a toy in a bog on the play with it. said no are than their dad. Said you need to share mog. So he shared with ball and then they just shared playing my favorite morgan story wise. It was actually the one where mog started wearing polka-dot hanson. Everybody made fun of him and he just kept wearing them and then and then eventually and then eventually everybody was like. Oh i need polka dot pants and then the coolest part of that is. Is that when we wrote this book. You insisted that are outstanding illustrator elicit gonzalez's put an apart where they're polka dot pants. It's not part of the story but it's like just this little shout to our original bedtime stories. There are polka dot pants in the book so we started doing that and then we realized we could maybe teach some other kids less lesson like the lessons. We were learning at bedtime. And what lesson did you decided you wanted to teach younger kids courage and what about courage like it help. Everybody understand what you think. Courage is like he's courage just never being scared. No you'd be scared but you do it anyway. And so what when people think about courage. What usually do they think about they. Don't they usually think about big stuff right. And we mentioned that in the book like what kind of big examples do people usually think of when they think about people who have courage. I run the fire rocket ship or jackie robinson yet. We and those people definitely had courage right but in the book what you wanted younger kids to know is that they have lots of chances to have courage. So what are some examples of that on like your first day of school. Tell me about your first day of school. they did. It require courage. Yes a lot of courage. So i got there. I was like three years old and it was my first day of school without my parents. L i was really scared that day but i did it anyway. Now you still go to that school and is it like. That's like all your teammates or your best friends. Everybody is at that school right. my point is in. The point of the book is that you're usually really glad that showed courage. It usually works out really well right. Yeah okay now you and i. We put this book together. We wrote it not for kids your age and not for grown ups my age but for kids younger. Why do you think it's important that kids who are like three or four years old that get the opportunity during this lesson about courage so that they have courage to do more stuff. Give me one more example of something in the book. Like what's your favorite example in the book and there's a bunch of them that we put in there based on your own experiences. What is your favorite example in the book of a kid who had courage the boy who was scared to go down the slide but he did it any way and he saw that it was really fun and then he starts going down the side like crazy right again. Get and he's like. Oh my gosh and when you have courage like that are you usually looking back on it going. I can't believe i was scared to do this. And that's that tends to be how it works all right so let me ask you this. What is something that you're scared about right now that you think it's going to require courage but you want to do. It doesn't have to be today or this weekend this. Yeah tell me that. That canada do this. It was really hard to convince me. But i did it anyway. Glad that you did this interview. Yes having fun doing it. Yes okay. it's awesome. Yeah you were really scared to do it right. But and you were scared to write a book write. It turns out that's been really cool. How did it make you feel when we saw the cover of our book. And it said courage is by jason and true candor with illustrations by elicit gonzales. Yeah and now member you ask. Is this going to be in my school library. And i and i asked the company the publisher and they're going to be in every store it can be in the school library. No problem why do you want it to be in your school library. So i can show my friends that i actually made a book. Yeah pretty awesome And when you're little sister goes to your school. Maybe she'll read your book probably show read it before then rain in fact we'll probably read it to her. Definitely all right. Is there anything else you wanna say to these people about why they should buy this book or anything like that because it's a super good but that's a pretty good argument. Okay pretty good sales pitch. I mean all right well. Thank you so much for doing this true. I really appreciate you coming on my show. Anybody listening to this you can get. Courage is by jason true candor with illustrations by illicit gonzales. Wherever you buy books you can get on amazon. You can get simon and schuster dot com..
"cpac" Discussed on Majority 54
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"cpac" Discussed on Majority 54
"All that aside the civil lining. I suppose is. That's a big midterm election problem. And they're just trying to erase it and they know it yet. The claim was by so many on the right. That degenerate six insurrection had people literally tell this to my face. The january six insurrection and trump or two different things right and that like his his statements to the protesters that day and the tweet said he had in the lead up to it and all that where vague and that he couldn't have any sense about what that would unleash right. Which complete bullshit. But it was their claim. Now he's fully embracing it. And as a lot of david fromm from the atlantic and others pointed out this is a shift because when trump was in the white house you know a good example charlottesville he did say the whole both sides thing You know they're good people on both sides etc but What he did not do was give specific. Praise of the racist in charlottesville. He chatted to a little moral equivalency and kind of a vague is way out of it right. Through sort of more general statements this time he's explicitly praising the involved in the january six protests. Seems like he's more emboldened and there's a certain fury at work. Here that i think is a little dangerous. And what from saying the atlantic is that this is. This is a step in the direction of fascism and he like me had been careful not to use that term and certain situations in the trump administration. But he said he pointed to a lot of evidence from prominent members of the right where their justification for their actions starting to shift so. It's no longer this thing didn't happen or it was It's not what you thought. It was right. Which people like tucker. Carlson have said but people like tucker carlson and trump are now saying it probably did happen somewhat the way you said it did and it was justified. And here's an example. And i i read this. Not because i want to elevate this voice but because this is a voice that is very prominent on the right. There's this guy. He's like a podcast named darrow cooper. And tucker carlson read a tweet thread from the guy on the air. I'm not gonna read the whole tweet thread. But i think it's instructive to read a part of it because it'll tell you a very dangerous strain of thought on the right so he basically says that those people who were in january six titled to do what they did and this is what he says the entrenched bureaucracy and security states subverted trump from day one. The press is part of the operation election. Rules were changed. Big tech sensors. Opposition political violences legitimising encouraged trump is banned from social media and they were led down some rabbit holes. But they're absolutely right that their government is monopolized by regime that believes they are beneath. Representation will observe no limits to keep them getting it. Trump fans should be happy he lost. It might have kept him alive. This was read on the air by tucker carlson on fox news. In the end. Daryl cooper rights not every theory about election. Fraud is true. But trump's voters quote are absolutely right that their government is monopolized by regime that believes they are beneath representation and will observe no limits to keep them getting it end quote that is true and every honest person knows it. They're essentially saying we are not like the people who won. This election are not even entitled to have the seats that they have in there for anything justified in the name of taking them out. That feels like fashion to me. That's one hundred percent. Fascism and on top of that what we have to remember is trump is going to be the worst version of trump for awhile and the reason for that is because he's got to win a primary right like an and he cannot have the perception of his presidency. Be anything other than exactly what a republican presidency is supposed to look like because if it's anything other than that then he he's exposed and vulnerable in the primary i promise you. He's not thinking about the general election. he's thinking about winning the primary and he's gotta make everything that he's ever done the thing that you're supposed to do. I mean if you can if you can shaped question then you can get the answer. You want any shaping the question that they'll be asking the republican primary now. The reason that i say that's a silver lining while it is meanwhile super scary for the country politically the the silver lining of that is is it. That means he's going to take party to the most extreme place that it's ever been and politically. That is a very difficult place to come back to when it comes general election time. Yeah it's hard to wrap your head around because there are two things going on simultaneously. Potentially an and i agree with you. Although i nothing would surprise me i agree with you that this makes the republican party more vulnerable and less likely to succeed at winning than they otherwise would be then if like say like they had like a pro business lower taxes straight down the line conventional republican campaign. I do have some questions about that just because he has obviously been very successful at activating people that he hasn't before but putting that aside. It's probably true that this stuff makes them less electable but the consequences of losing if he runs on this are as catastrophic at this point because like we will not get a version of trump that we got last time we will get a like. I actually believe that the trump that we got last time maybe didn't warrant the capital f. Fascist name i haven't really thought through all different definitions of that term agree with you but that's okay but like unquestionably. What we get is worse. This time and the enablers will be way worse. I guess the difference is is that the trump got last time aspired to fascism the trump we would get next time would instill fascism. That's the difference. And so you're right. There's this you know the midterms and then especially the presidential and twenty twenty four. They're it's the highest stakes ever is not every election is the most important election ever district. The highest stakes. Yeah all right well. I don't have much positive stuff to add to that. End this conversation. Jason you wanna leave our listeners with any any anything tangibly optimistic about this conversation. Let's go out to order in before we do aren't we relatable corner will do grabbing orrin will just say that the grand oreos if you're not doing more than just listening to this podcast right now you're kind of doing it wrong. You should be hooking up with campaigns. You should still be making phone calls doing the work like that's the grabbing or is that the stakes for the next three years. Two to four years are as high as they've ever been And it's it's not only not too early to get involved. This is when you should be getting involved. Great all right. I feel a little better off today..
"cpac" Discussed on Majority 54
"On cpac. Jason and we could be quick on this. But i just want to arm our listeners. Just to talk about this. Both sides. Ism tim polenta. The former governor of minnesota went on cnn and had a back and forth and will listen to a short clip of that. I want to ask you. Because i'm sure that you have an opinion on the matter. Cpac the conservative conference over the weekend which is always colorful right. We know that there were according to our donio sullivan. Three percenters and proud boys just walking around at cpac in this different well look at the grassroots level. There's a lot of shall we say interesting people in politics right and left. I don't think we're seeing something like this on the left. We may not yet seen it at the left on at conferences. We've certainly in the streets. All across america antigua's behavior in seattle example. I bet if i went to in any number of leftist gatherings i could find a bunch of goof-balls. Well do you know of any. I'm saying. do you have an example of that. I asked you governor because this is an actual example. Just wanted to focus on this because i know our listeners are dealing with this kind of both sides all the time and i just wanna lay down a marker here when temple any talks about antifa in seattle and he and he's being asked about in the context of donald trump at cpac. This is the kind of move that we see on the right all the time. Which is some person who claims to be on the left somewhere in this country or a group of that did some bad things. Therefore the standard bearer of our party when he goes in speaks to the luminaries and the leaders of our party and uses his megaphone over and over again to advocate for crazy Authoritarian racist things. Those two things are quivalent to tim. Polenta or he's trying to say that and basically as they're trying to hide from the fact that the leader of their party to pursue shaped politics over the past decade now anything he does is excusable because somebody somewhere on the left. Did something bad And i think we just need to call that out. Like joe biden wasn't that antifa protest but donald trump repeatedly is is at the equivalent of that for the right. I wouldn't even say a sequence but like the worst things happening on the right often. Donald trump is right at the center of it to me. This is one of the conversation at this kind of thing that people do the both sides ism a. This is where i like to use the can. You see how. I feel the way i feel thing and and laid out for people right and i would you know. You don't like trying to trap him just say like okay Can you name a member of antifa. They can't okay. Maybe they say like some ignorance say oh. Ceo okay but she's not actually a member and they'll say well yeah she didn't say okay. Let's assume that you're right. Does she admit no okay. So it's not like accepted thing on our side. Okay all right so then you go on you say all right but let's let's say there were actual members of it and that that the president of the united states who didn't agree with when it was talking to them. And then you say would you be afraid and yeah well okay now. You don't have to agree with me. But can you see why this makes me feel fearful. Because i've tried that a few times with people and they will generally go. I can see why this makes you feel fearful. They won't always say you're right. But they'll say i can see why it is and at least if you can get them to the empathize with that emotion. You're you're making some progress right. Yeah and we saw this for the listeners. Who didn't listen to that. We talked to a few months back to my brother who voted for trump. And you know he's not representative of the entire gamut of the right and it's possible. His views have changed but at the time he was like. Hey joe biden's evil guy terrible guy. It was more like he is captive to this. Yada yada of the left. But like you're saying it's like push people to say like okay like give us of anything equivalent to what trump did this weekend at cpac for joe biden and they're really gonna struggle in this week and misinformation. Let's talk about the january. Six insurrection on sunday trump during a fox interview called the insurrection of fest between the capitol police and the people that walk down to the capital there was also a love fest between the police the capitol police and the people that walked down to the capital insisted. The protesters were peaceful. Band he then waited right into the conspiracy waters of trying to hold up this woman. Ashley babb who was shot at the capitol. By the way while you're at it who shot ashley babbitt. Why are they keeping that secret. Basically they're trying to painters martyr. He asked this interview with maria. Barreda romo From fox news trump asked. Who is that person who shot an innocent wonderful incredible woman. This is a person who's trying to by force enter the chambers of the capital. I will tell you they know. Who shot ashley babbitt. They're protecting that person. I've heard that it was ahead of his security detail for a certain high level official democrat. I think they're trying to save closes. Security comes on the heels of everybody from chocolate. Carlson calling the January sixth action fake and where elderly people showed up with signs at the capitol he said and it was. You know he's set everything from it was orchestrated by the fbi. To the fact that there was no insurrection or that it was nothing with a political protests that got out of hand. They're not even being consistent with themselves because obviously if it if it was orchestrated by the fbi was also nothing more than a political protest like all these things contradict each other. But we'll go crazy thinking about that. The bridge question here. Jason is now gone from the fact of life january six imposed sherri six where people like mcconnell and other members of the gop were. They were appalled and they were clutching their pearls. About how just surprising and terrible this was and we're even flirting with the idea reporting for impeachment which obviously most of them did not to the point. Now where the gop is fully embracing conspiracy theories about the january six direction. This seems like a meaningful change yet. It is frightening. Believe it or not. I'm going to give you like a silver lining on this which is not easy to do but the silver lining is is that just like with the revisionist history that they're doing about the election. This is revisionist history about just like with that about something that they know is an enormous problem for them right as well. It should be right like it should be an enormous political problem in the next election. If after the last election you tried to take over the government by violent insurrection right like that should be a major political liability and they are aware that it is so much so that they're not trying even to spend it anymore. They're trying to erase it right. They're trying to come up with anything. They can to the point where i mean. Think about that poor person who was doing their job. Serving their country made an incredibly difficult decision. The most difficult and heart wrenching decision. A person can make in that situation which is whether to fire and now his lived with that decision regardless of all the pressure all the the public stuff just if there had been nobody ever knew by was just a regular shooting in the course of their work were no cameras and no political controversy. It would still be a heart wrenching. Decision to live with and now that person has to worry about their own safety and becoming a political football not to mention the fact that he's once again putting members of congress and enormous danger by with the intimation that he's making.
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"cpac" Discussed on Majority 54
"That the election was fair. Which is crazy. Small number 'cause it was sixty percent were dot that the election is going to be fair before the election announced thirty percent or something on that order but the conversation could be. Hey if your son was in a baseball game they lost like do you want them whining to the refs afterwards complaining or do you want that that ryan the karbi about hey. What could we do differently. What can i do better. How do i improve my skills you know like. Is there something there you know. Is that our line. I think it's something along those lines. The problem with that is that they go well if the umpire was paid off by the other side. Yeah i would absolutely want my son or my daughter to stand up and say something about it. So i feel like it's more along the lines of i mean i'm about to. I'm about to say something pretty drastic than may. Get me in trouble because of the analogy. I'm gonna drop but i'm excited. I was and maybe. I've used this analogy for something else. That was more appropriate in the past so. Forgive me if it's a repeat. But when i was in intelligence school and we were going through. And we were talking about terrorist cells. I remember one of the things that they taught us was that. Look you got the bomb maker. You got the trigger man you got. You got the driver right. They taught us the different roles in it. You got the finance or the fundraiser. All that and they said you you can go about it. The way we had been going about it earlier you can try and find those guys and capture or kill them like what just part of what you're going to be doing over there they said but don't forget that the surest way to put out of business is to get to those five four or five guys a good job right now they have self worth now they have and so i feel like to some extent we have to focus on is just on the good governing side making sure people and it kind of takes me back to when he caught a lot of flack for that when president obama said years ago when he said you know when things are going for you personally like you're gonna cling to guns and religion now like he misspoke but his point was when you don't have another identity to fall back on when you don't have something to make you feel good about yourself and your place in the world you're going to find other people feel that way and you're going to join up with them and say this is the reason we don't feel that way so i guess my point is it doesn't have to be a political message if more americans felt connected to other americans and they felt like they have a place in the world that is respected. You're gonna see less extremism across the board right. You know this reminds me. It's going to seem like an unrelated point. But you couple months ago on the internet video circulating of marjorie taylor green doing keeping pups which are pull ups that are particular to the cross community. And i a lot of people that i know. I did not post about it. But i was tempted to because it was funny for a second and the reason why i didn't post about it was. I've traveled the country. I've been across victims in iowa. I've been to them in arizona and richmond. Virginia and connect with people in those places who unquestionably have different political beliefs. Than i have and those places are secular churches in many communities where people come together and they have an identity around fitness and wellness. And i got really nervous about that attack. Because you don't want to then say you don't want to provoke a reaction from people. Were they say that cross right. Now is republican right like that is a dangerous place to be because it is not republican. It is not republican or democratic. It is an apolitical institution in many ways. That is actually really important to so many people. And when i saw a lot of people on the left making fun of that i was like. If you're in richmond and you're kind of a political you can go to go one way or another right. A new look at people attacking your unity institution like that. Then you're gonna you're gonna be a little bit more susceptible to attaching a political identity to that institution. In a way that i think is very harmful. That doesn't make any sense. It makes perfect sense. It reminds me of something that acts david axelrod says about the two thousand sixteen election. Which is if you tell people over and over again that you don't need them they will believe you right and look we have to be objective about things like mercury taylor. Green is awful in all sorts of three hundred and sixty degree directions. But i saw that clip to. She's clearly pretty strong. She's clearly in. She's clearly physical physically fit what we have to be better than that like. We can't decide that we're going to like if you look at that and say that is in no way impressive for a woman of her age. Then you've lost all your objectivity she can be a terrible person. She can be all the things she is. She can be a on dangerous extremists who is in congress and still objectively be physically fit. And when when you treat it as if she's not well then you're starting to lose credibility and you're alienating and an entire group of people that aren't bonded around politics but now you're entrenching them right us rise me the critical race theory debate right which putting aside what is critical race theory. We talked about that already. But there is this part of the conversation in which I voiced some concern about some of the ways that we talk about race in this country. One of the reasons why. I have concerns about like like a focusing so much on the immutable characteristics of people at the exclusion of all else particularly white people in the way that we talk about this term white people..
"cpac" Discussed on Majority 54
"I'd became worse. Became worse so repeat that. I didn't become different. Got impeached twice. I became worse than he was contrasting himself with bar who he said was cowed by the impeachment process. You know the conventional wisdom is that people have become immune anything trump says but these seem particularly brazen comments. Is this going to matter. How do we make it matter. I guess a better question. Let's take these separately the first one where he's just out there saying like you know what it is. You know what i do at this point. Honestly that's the behavior of a person who i think is just sort of downtrodden depressed like donald trump doesn't have his usual coping mechanisms right. He doesn't have his usual interaction with his adoring public which is social media. I mean he's out these just completely pathetic statements that are tweets but put out as statements of the president which by the way is like this whole strange irony because there was that whole thing for me where people took his tweets and they put him on like official looking statements. And now like. That's actually what's happening. He's out official statements. That are tweets. Because he's desperate for that interaction. That adulation and i think he's just starting to sound like somebody who not only thinks that they're going to lose the next time but knows they lost and like i just think he's depressed and i think he's just going screw it. I you know he's not trying. That's the first comment the second comment. I didn't become different. I got impeached twice. I became worse to me. That is an example of this thing where everybody says you know. Gaffes particularly from trump. Don't matter anymore. That's the kind that i think does not in a primary right. That's what we're talking about with cpac not primary but in general when a gaff is something that is you saying something inadvertently. That sounds like a confession to be. What everybody thinks is true. That can actually hurt you and to me. I think that audio or video clip playing over and over again in general election with him as the nominee got impeach twice. One reminding people of that and then to acknowledge. I got worse that gives people who might have been republicans in the past but chose to vote against him in the last one. That refreshes the recollection. And i think that's a real air. I think both of them come from the fact. That i think he's just kind of sad sack right now moping around mar-a-lago yeah and we're going to spend some time in this weekend misinformation segment actually talking about some ways in which he is absolutely correct that he has gotten worse and like it's hard to even imagine a worst version of him than the october twenty twenty version of him but the twenty twenty one version of trump absolutely is worse than and we'll talk more about that. I often wonder. I searched my brain for the people in my life. Who support trump. And i think about a conversation. I had with my dad early in the trump presidency. I said i asked him. Hey like when trump says he's that he he could shoot somebody on you know in the middle of fifth avenue and his supporters to be with him. Is that you. My dad. Said yes i was like. Does he really mean that he would like that. He would still be with trump after that. And then you look at this and this is a guy who says that An said many other incredible. And i don't use the word fascism lightly. I was one of those people who throughout trump's presidency with a little bit like. Hey like let's call. Let's be very careful about escalating the rhetoric on things and calibrated accordingly. He absolutely is flirting with fascism. And he can do that because he has supporters. Like my dad who. We're gonna stay with them no matter what he says. And we know that because the same crowd. He said that to voted seventy percent to say that he would be their nominee so he has adoring supporters. Who will matter what and to me. It's i don't even know that it's a adoring of him at this point so as it's just your basic tribalism is just basic personal identity at this point no matter what trump does the folks who are the trump people you know. The folks who vote with seventy percents cpac crowd. They're not doing it because they genuine. They're like that guy's best. And i've i'm over and over and over again. I'm objectively analyzing what i see from him and and i just like it over and over again that i think it's i'm a trump person now and that's that's my identity and what he does. I'm for that. Because if i stop being for that now i gotta go find a new identity and the stuff that he does that people like ravi m jason and the listeners. Majority fifty four hate. That's the stuff that i like. I like it when he makes them mad because that brings me closer together with the other trump people. So it's at this point it's tribalism. He's a tribal leader and it is like he could shoot somebody. It doesn't matter because it's not about him. It's it's a it's about. It's bigger than him now and which is really scary but it also means its ability to grow is severely diminished right and i think that means that our strategies to defeat this ideology is to create alternative identities essentially right yes and now like that. Identity probably isn't democrat right. Like i i have a hard time believing that some of these people are just going to be like. Yeah i'm a democrat. Now you have to think about like well all right what. What are what are other identities that people have that conflict with the identity as a trump person and we've talked often about the most potent identities people as parent as coach teacher etc. And i continue to think that one of the reasons why biden one and one of the best cases we have to make an future is to get at this this tactile experience that everybody who's a parent or a coach or principal or teacher has which has the responsibility. You have to be honest to be trustworthy to still the right values in the next generation is so obvious on a day to day basis when you when you talk about it in those situations like a good example is trump with this election right. There's a certain very high percentage of the gop that we're not going to be able to convince one way or the other on this election but there is at thirty percent or so that still believe.
"cpac" Discussed on Majority 54
"I'm jason candor and i'm robbie gupta and this is majority fifty four the podcast that helps americans who voted for progress. Convince those who didn't to join our majority before we get to the news of the week a little later in this episode. We have a very special treat for you which is in our. Aren't we relatable corner. I am interviewing my son. True about the children's book that he and i have co-authored that is available for pre sale. Now so i am interviewing my son true a little later but before we get there ravi. What's going on this week this week. We're going to do a deep dive on. This event called the conservative political action committee. That cpac summit is something that listeners. If i could avoid introducing you to this gathering i would but the reason why we're focusing on is because it tells us a lot about where the gop is in heading and This gathering i think revealed some things that are pretty scary about the the current Republican party and we'll start with former president. Donald trump who in his speech at the cpac gathering in dallas returned again to election-related lies. You know the new york times asked me a question. What happened in twenty twenty. That was different from two thousand sixteen. I said well. I'll tell you we did much better. In twenty twenty we got twelve million votes. We won by a much bigger margin. And so jason should we make of the fact. That trump continues to peddle lies about the election. Well first of all anybody out there. Who's expecting him to change in any way like i don't know where they've been for the last several years so i don't think any of us are expecting that We can make of it is as he thinks it will work It has worked in the past. He's literally pedaled lies about everything throughout his entire career. It's how he's gotten ahead. I mean during the trump administration we used to say that the everyday governing motto was. Just get to tomorrow right. It was setting up a plan for anything. And that's what this is right now. He's dealing with the fact that he just lost an election and like he lost it in a pretty embarrassing fashion. And that can't be a reality when your brand is i win. You know if you're with me you're the winner and you stick it to the other side. You can't have that be the reality so you gotta continue on this ridiculous stream of lies which you know we think of it. As like an attack on democracy in it is but with trump. That's just the after effect of it. That's just sort of side. Effect is that it's an attack on democracy really with him it just starts with. He can't accept reality. He can't allow you to accept reality so we have to keep telling this lie over and over and over again. It's not going to stop what what's notable about. The speech is trump. Seems more and more comfortable just admitting to how he operates and so there are a few revealing moments in the speech on one he said by the way you have poll coming out meeting cpac as a straw poll. Unfortunately i want to know what it is you know. How do that straw poll right. If it's bad. I just say it's fake if it's good i say that's the most accurate poll ever so basically just saying like i'm gonna call out this poll if i don't win it and if i win it say it's accurate but even more revealing jason. He said i didn't become different. I got a beach.
"cpac" Discussed on Fever Dreams
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"cpac" Discussed on Fever Dreams
"Out acing other right. Okay so One thing i guys us ac is about a video. You tweeted on july eleventh. Were you said at cpac meet. Joseph kong an avid trump supporter and cpac donor to the tune of twenty k. This weekend alone who has a custom. Kung-fu dress and trump chant. I think we're going to play some of the audio from your tweet. That can you tell us a little bit. More about mr kung absolutely. This guy was one of the most a colorful excited cpac. Attendees this weekend. I mean he loved talking to the press. He was wearing a blue kung fu dress. That basically Quivalent of trump bumper stickers plastered all on it everywhere from had closed at fifty bumper stickers on. He was one of those acts donors. This weekend then came out and said he loves supporting trump and just love the guy and he was also yesterday twenty k. Is we can alone to see act. Which just shows how lucrative these events are not only for cpac but for more so the republican party in those politicians that ended. It is funny money flowing to polish. Ach gets on that side and these events while they might seem small. It's a big party candidate grip on that side from from the expensive t shirts to the big donor contributions zach. What is the the weirdest thing you saw at cpac. Yeah i would say it was. The proud is acting as personal security for people. At the event who are attending and i went up and i wrote a couple of them and i said what's going on is it. Why guys year end of or stay proud boys in all that stuff and we're proud mayo. Western show venus who will not apologize for creating the modern world. Yeah and they were there and asked them why they need to be there dallas. Pd was there right. There were not only role officials that were there are authorities amicable lease results personal cpac lease and they said they can take additional measures on vote compared to that of dallas. Tv which was interesting right. What other measures hasley tate. Clearly they were there and were willing to extreme actions to into da stops or or fight off needed to be. I mean they could always post superior memes online as compared to the dallas. Pd do like the idea. They're like you. We're gonna trust the cops. Those guys aren't third degree proud. Boys much they masturbate. These guys on exactly the black panthers in the early nineteen seventies. I mean come on okay. This is obviously one issue. That came up at cpac. I think as someone watching from afar was your safety. I mean there was a lot of just seemed like a lot of people approaching you. And you're saying rude things or trying to get in these kind of like viral confrontations. Obviously you've been going to cpac you gone for a few years now but it seemed like this one was really more unhinged than ever and so i wonder what do you think that says about like the larger state of the conservative movement. And really what's going on now. There were a lot of bio air People were kind of saying my home address out loud. It was really disturbing just because we saw the vilification of the press from the mouth of president. Donald trump on sunday that actually people carrying out those kind of order tax members of the press at the there were plenty of threats from from associates. That were kind of loosely connected to the ubers. There were white nationalist making rats to i know myself at least and people were being stalked. I know that there was one lady who after my encounter with the white nationalist. Were all recording me. It was one lady who kinda like stuck behind me for the rest of the day and she wouldn't go anywhere she went. She only around. The entire conference had no idea who she was. It was this older lady ended up going to the bathroom. And she she she just stays outside the bathroom with a camera and just hanging out there and then come back out and ascoli union. Why am and she's like now. Okay why you're talking about. We're there was a lot of weird. That's just wild. Gotta wonder i think the past cpac has managed to get a lot of attention by allowing the media and by by being pretty open with the media but at the point where you have just like nuts following people and tagging around when you go to the bathroom or whatever i mean so while you were at cpac you got to get some face time with friend of the show mr mike lindell obviously huge trump ally and buddy of my pillow prominent pusher of twenty twenty election conspiracy theories beyond that. Am i correct in remembering that you also called cpac attendees on if they believed lindell's theory the trump could possibly be quote unquote reinstated during the biden presidency. I sure did in the ten days at cpac. Overwhelmingly supportive of mike lindell's not only uri's his belief that donald trump will be reinstated as president. Come august which might come. As a shock lead cpac attendees not only love. Mike lindell but love his theories and also some. I spoke with said they even wanted on the main agency so way. Describe to me what it's like talking to someone who's like yep trump's can be reinstated next month. The majority of them were older older conservatives that had really bought into mike lindell's beliefs and they were adamant about kind of this is me taking to the supreme court that of mike lindell's voter fraud case. Or whatever have you and the ultimate these. He captures these these packing Show that the twenty twenty election was rigged and buddy enough salon actually approached mike lindell conference and asked him about these aca captures specifically in some of the things that might win dallas in claiming to have a lack some substantial proof. Supposedly these pe- captures while we need to see the raw data behind it. Not necessarily this data. That's easily manipulable on and could have just been sold to mike lindell as a hoax. And when we asked mike lindell's gonna show us this raw data or said that. Take them off than he was pretty upset about that. But he didn't Symposium in in south dakota's guess go there and check that. I saw the video of this and this is packaged as one of these. Like you know. Mike lindell vaporizes lib reporter videos. But what's happening is he's supposed to be interviewing ben carson for his social network and instead he sees you in the crowd becomes obsessed with arguing with you and ben carson is just like what is happening here and he's just like a world renowned neurosurgeon and i'm just being ditched so mike lindell can be like zachary you've done it again. Absolutely michael down right. When he saw myself he lashed on and wanted to wanted to tell me everything. I probably nine million times on his frank speech website right but no he may block all there and that i am on single handedly destroying this country while you are. So where's the lie. also start. This isn't for the show but just to check something quickly. Did you say in the answer. Your question what percentage calculated of the attendees who pulled bought into the theory and also out of how many attendees was. How many people did you ask if you just say that now. We can cut that into your response earlier. Yeah of nearly fifty people. I spoke with was north of forty percent. Who believed in. Mike lindell's claims that come august. We'll be back in the way our zach. Thank you so much for joining us today on.
"cpac" Discussed on Fever Dreams
"Let 'em out there yet so because the larger import here right. Is that like a bunch of oak have been indicted over january six so the idea that that their leader is powering around with same about with members of congress. The former president you know. What do you think that says. About the state of post january sixth conservatism. I think it says a lot. I think it was the entire conference. You can use cpac almost as a bellwether for the republican party and we can of see that cpac what used to be very mainstream of it. Used to be buried. Know reagan with Stopping was a mainstream. Gop abet but as we've seen over the past couple years even after game six more. Sal we've seen cpac shift further right and very much. The republican party more and more to the right and embrace things like these extremist characters. Right we saw the proud boys at cpac. Dallas we saw the oath keepers at cpac. Dallas white nationalist attendees running around. We saw chewing on the orders wearing hunan shirts running around the conference right. So he's all these elements and she didn't care was one of the things that's going on here right. Is that the you have. The white nationalist gripers these types who are also trying to get in some of them get in and there was interesting clash between stewart rhodes who sort of denounced by many of these younger people as sort of a a boomer or a fed. Could you describe that for me. Yeah no absolutely. There was some video of a white. Nationalist were nate. Nate lewis is always nicholas fund as being character who attended the right rally and has since been banned from twitter number arms but was was there eventually but one of his always approach roads. The uber sounder basically called my and that didn't really make stewart half. You know it's a pretty funny video. I mean basically stewart roads they go oh can get a cell. The guy goes carrying with you and suit. Roads is like oh yeah here we go can you the militia and then the guy he's going for the self eighty goes. We love our federal informant and stewart. Rhodes is just like like you. Wanna you wanna down bed you. That's the kind of rowdy we get at a at cpac barely Anzac while you were there horse. i'm sure. Many of our listeners. Saw the footage in the tweets online. Nick fuentes white nationalist Showed up to the hotel and he was. It didn't take that long to get the jetted from conferences. I think he was counting on or predicting does he. Just show up to these more quote unquote made in st conservative conferences. Nowadays just to come and like try to make fun of reporters before he gets booted like his as whole thing. Yeah i think there's an interesting dynamic there like on one hand you have somebody who clearly wants media attention and that's be one of their motivations coming but then a part of me was thinking well you know. Nick was went as very much embraced by many in a party today to write like tucker carlson giving the week in the not too linda's than others giving we saw jd aunts just being like. I can't believe this guy off. Its winner right right. They obviously try to. Frame is just a free speech issue ray but of course there are awesome carrying water for him. So it's like one has thing. Why isn't nicholas Conference when others with his chambers views. A rolling around conference but yeah no cpac allow at the gate him the boot but plenty of when does his followers. Some of his most loyal followers were independence throughout the week end yet. No he can. Pack quickly found myself. Of course we had a little dust up if you well you is saying much why Using urging his group to destroy january six evidence which is quite the thing. What was his response to your question. About destruction of evidence you know what he said gropers only answered questions and then i got the gropers. Don't answer questions isn't that that's okay. It was interesting because these these river characters minor like. He's green braces pepe. The frog means things. And that's going to what they behind. When you you start to make the point earlier that there actually is a very narrow terrain of disagreement over policy and political preferences between those losers and actual honchos in big players in the republican party up and are greeted with open arms at these types of conferences. One of those is course. White supremacists speechwriter and former senior aide to donald trump. Stephen miller who was someone you ran into in the hallways was he just milling about the conference. Or did he was. He there for Some other capacity. Yeah so i saw him. He was doing a box office. Friends said i believe an heard mountain south in went up to women as questions because you know he has a great affinity for white. Nationalism managed Groom the trump era certainly not a question for went up to him in iran. Because he said he had some family issues that they care So that was short-lived. Exchange as your miller so zach obviously another cpac attendee or quasi pack attend. The matt gaetz representative from florida currently target of a federal investigation. You know the interesting thing here where he kinda you know. He tried to have his own little off brand cpac. Walk us through that. yeah so matt. Gaetz was in attendance at cpac many of the attendees went up to him and she'll hand or excited to see him but it seemed as though he wasn't a totally accepted by the organized succeed. Pack right so mcintyre attempted with do you think that's because he's currently under federal investigation and one of his buddies is flipped autumn. Yeah that's that's probably it. So welcome right like he was. He was like a god so he tried to hold his other event with former lieutenant colonel allen west in this other part of the hotel and they were holding up signs for this is a bet on the second floor of the hotel in dallas away from cpac and volunteers were holding up signs for this event directing people on sunday to this. Other event cpac organizers came up to these these volunteers and said look at Even as advertising at such and then this one's c-pack executive director confiscated to bear signs instead going gaddi. Your this is an official bet. Did they say that to matt gaetz. No no go on get like like give them a toss about like and stay out. Yeah those those kinds of though from message or they kept going and kicked him out and then they held brother event in the other room and then after the back the organization that was holding that is right wing organization. Basically you bet it was a inefficiency so they remain some issue. It's like well. I can tell you i'm cpac. You're not far to see some of my right to free speech that you don't allow me to have an officially sanctioned seat. Well correct me if i'm wrong. Zach but i mean isn't what's going on here that allen west is running for governor of texas and dan patrick who was on the stage. Lieutenant governor who actually was on the stage is also gonna run and so cpac is probably trying to favor. Dan patrick. we're better or worse. Because you have our west kind of claiming to be more mag of were right wing than others and creating further division. They are so we saw you know. Cpac is of supported other candidates. There was this weird dynamic air between further right candidates.
"cpac" Discussed on Fever Dreams
"Will you've been tracking this burgeoning controversy surrounding something known as hit viper sunglasses. First of all before we get into that you got explained to our listeners. What the hell pit viper sunglasses. What are they do you own any. Where can i get. 'em should i wear them. Well you may want to reconsider wearing them. Because of some unfortunate associations they're they're developing which we're about to get into but these are like these are really kind of unusual glasses. And i realized this is podcasting. He's not a visual medium. But basically if you're listening to this you might wanna google this because it's kind of hard to describe but basically like these huge panel sunglasses. That looked like something macho man. Randy savage might wear. They're like super reflective and they have like crazy they look orange or whatever i mean. They're very striking visual. They look like sunglasses. That would be portrayed. John carpenter movie that satirizing the one thousand nine hundred eighty s reagan era comeback ally. I want some if they live. Took place at a snowboarding resort to give you a sense of like what pit vipers attitude is like. They're endorsed by rob gronkowski. They're kind of like to be a slightly more well intentioned barstool sports in terms of their attitude. I think their instagram page lists that. They're like the sixty ninth best company at you get it. This pit viper. These seem more or less fine. Have they been around for a long time. i confess i have not heard of them until you brought them to my attention. I'd never heard of him either. I think if you and i were like in a frat at a big ten school we'd probably where this for the boat week or something. You and i are getting matching hit viper shades and that is not going to be the new coverage for this podcast. The two of us wearing them back to back we're going to reclaim pit viper. And so this is why. So pit vipers in a bit of trouble right so pit. Vipers have been adopted by the white nationalist gropers. And these are young men who some of whom marched in charlottesville. They have kind of what they think is a cheeky attitude. Their led by this gentleman. Or this led by this guy named nick. Went as who is in charlottesville a guy who has managed to buddy up to an actual sitting republican congress person right paul gosar exactly from arizona and so gropers is kinda take on a pepe. The frog is kind of a. He's like a similar guy. he's fat epic. So these guys have started wearing pit vipers around because they're kind of this kind of like a devil may care kind of thing you might wear and so pit. Vipers started running into trouble with this on january six win groper affiliate baked alaska wore them into the capital. And you guys can see here. There's a picture of baked alaska kind of doing his thing during the riot. Wearing some pit. Vipers fibers kinda got on this quick and so they put out a a mean that said showed people wearing vipers and said extreme sports not extremists. Losers did that work no no did not and so so this is now created this thing where like you know and this is reminiscent of the proud. Boys love to wear black and yellow fred. Perry shirts right and fred perry said. Don't wear 'em you bombs. And then they just started wearing knockoffs right. And so we've seen there was. The nazis never stopped wearing. Go boss right. And so i mean there was this whole thing where this right-wing reaction to pit viper a host of this like christian show smash some pit vipers on air after this and then more recently last weekend at the at cpac knicks went as per leader showed up with like five or six of his cronies all wearing pit vipers and pit vipers is like oh man and so they tweet. Knicks went as needs to stop wearing pit vipers. So i don't know it doesn't look like it's going great for pit vipers. I think they're kind of in a in a bind here. Okay just sidebar for a moment. Do you will summer. Actually think the pit viper glasses look cool. you know. that's a complicated question. I mean at this point in a vacuum. I think i would look at them and be like okay if i were doing irony or wearing a halloween costume halloween costume. I think i might have doubts. But i think if i was like twenty one year old guy and i was like trying to a imitate a really racist version of fresh prince of bel-air kind of looks like that i mean it sort of looks like it would be worn by the guy who when he shows up at the party or people like oh here comes trouble right. He's the fun guy. I don't think there for me. But also i don't think that they should become the new hitler youth uniform if they don't want to. Do you know how it became the new hitler youth uniform like why did they choose pit viper. They could shows an anything. Well it's a cool name right. First of all like second of all think this baked alaska guy a lot of these these characters get into them. I mean they're very striking visually. So i think if you're live streaming all the time you know it adds a little visual interest but certainly i think pit viper has been. They've been getting into you know with all right now on twitter. Someone tweeted me and all my friends. We will not by pit vipers anymore and they tweeted good vibes. I think maybe we should get a sponsorship deal with pit viper. Just just some kind of kind of like like sort of boring dude. You know where we're in our thirties. We're just chilling out know. Maybe that's more the energy right or or just to balance it out. Just get every pro. Cuban regime wanna be type activists in the united states to start. Donning pit. vipers. Bear you balance it out. There's a little bit of ideological equilibrium. They're all of sudden all right. Swin rudy giuliani one. Time trump lawyer. The guy people may remember from the time haired. I was running down the side of his face but now he's in even more trouble than before. Get us up to date okay as our listeners. Probably know rudy. Giuliani is someone who is facing mounting legal bills. A lot of mounting legal woes. A good amount of this including the federal investigation into him is a direct result of all the things he tried to do to help. Then president trump from the trump ukraine scandal to subsequently efforts to try to overturn the twenty twen presidential election and spread and promulgate he's voter fraud lies it's cetera et cetera in the intervening time between january twenty twenty one and now juliani and his allies have been thirsting for former president trump to swoop in and back him up publicly and politically and try to solve some problems including but not limited to helping him offset v exploding costs of these legal bills that giuliani's now inundated with. I don't think it will talk to many of our listeners. To find out the donald trump is still not stepping up to the plate which leaves rudy and his guys with even more cash-strapped than they would have been. Otherwise one of the ways. That giuliani lieutenants. Chief among them former new york city police. Commissioner bernie kerik is trying to ameliorate that is setting up. The rudy giuliani legal defense fund to try to crowd source enough money to help the former new york city mayor out. Has it gone. Well they were hoping for something in the neighborhood of five million dollars and having set up multiple websites online to try to a route fund for this legal defense fund. One of the websites publicly showed how much money they had raised through this specific web pages something called funded lee dot com. It's kind of like a low rent. Go fund me that is being utilized by certain public.
"cpac" Discussed on Pod Save America
"I mean did you see tommy. Were there any other. Non trump cpac lights that stayed with you from the weekend before we get to the the man himself You know the the vaccination thing that that bummy out good I was not thrilled to see the oath keepers. If our militia there was another sort of far right group there. Nick went has gripers. Who are the people to the right of the maga people who looked like the cast of super bads or storming cpac. I do think like that is usually like the fringe of where these cpac events are is where we kind of the majority of the republican party ends up in a couple years. So you know. It's scary to see these like rightwing militia groups in there. I mean that stuff is terrifying. You have anything else. it's interesting. How many conspiracy theories involve like practice runs. Always practicing you know like they're coming for the bible's but i they're doing jade helm like the pre. Yeah jade home was a good example. Like they're caught like this idea that like all right. There was a pandemic. We created a vaccine in record time under republican administration to practice for the bible taking like we finally have our opportunity to do our bible taking practice. The governor's were trying to take people's guns. Wait for like twenty. Thirty years now failed succeeded a couple of times so of course. The main event was dumped trump speech on sunday afternoon which touched on all the latest threats in grievances on the right like critical race theory and cancel culture. He also played. Some of the old hits like windmills are evil. We love windmills or evil. That's an old hit. But the heart of what was a long incoherently rambling. Speech was trump's continued attack on the legitimacy of the two thousand twenty election by spreading lies about voter fraud. That never happened. Take listen.
"cpac" Discussed on Pod Save America
"A younger people are well aware of what the risks really love it. Do you get the sense that a lot of republican politicians and especially republican media. Figures are more openly anti vaccine lately. Why do you think they're going down this path. Frank franklin's told andy. Slap it on his pod today that Trump is sending out fundraising mailers claiming that people are dying from the vaccines. Yeah i mean they are. I think a couple things are happening one. This is in extension of cova does overblown so implicit. A lot of this is. Oh if you're older if you're an risk category you should get vaccinated but no one else needs to get vaccinated. Because they're lying about how it's still they. They don't recognize how it can still hurt younger people and they don't recognize mutual obligation. I guess even if you accept that premise. Why wouldn't you get this vaccine. It's harmless obviously and we'll protect the older people who are more vulnerable The other piece of it is that we've sort of hit the the kind of threshold removed from scarcity in this country to now it is time to go to local persuasion now it is time to go to like trusted people in communities to get that last group of people vaccinated so then i put that gives them an opportunity. They can prevent it from succeeding. That's a goal. They can feed conspiratorial mindset. The goal they keep the attention of their broken viewers who are easily pulled by an and newsmax which are more conspiratorial. And then when you talk about things like eating to go inside of communities they can kind of fan. The flames of this is some door to door effort to kind of force people to get the vaccine. And because tucker carlson and laura ingram don't care if people live or die and are completely valueless. it's an opportunity for them to so chaos and the republicans. Just follow them along permission to float a conspiracy theory her permission. Thank you see madison. Cawthorn said that the reason they were going door to door for vaccinations was to prepare to eventually take away. Your gun in your bible. I did not see that. I knew i saw madison stupid. That madison cawthorn said was trending. But i did not do not look into it because it was a good one. Well nobody like the governor of let me. I have a way worse conspiracy right part of my love of saying like fao cheese. The new bogeyman binds boring. Here's the other thing. I want to the conspiracy theory for you so kristi nome. May this oblique attack on republican governors. Who say they didn't lock down. But they really lockdown. It's just sort of viewed as an oblique shot at ron to santa's You think she's doing this as a stalking horse for the trump family who's now worried about the santa's well you're deepen all. That's i read enough cpac. I missed the christie known thing though. That's yes it was. It was like the kristi noem thing. It's so many it's so many levels of bullshit deep. It's like hey you may get the impression that some of these republican governors Did the wrong thing. Don't let them lie to you. About how wrong they were. Some of them were right and we should hold them accountable to raise. That's the known position. I made sure that my state was leading the country and capita deaths. Can ronda sant. Santa say that no he cannot. I think the the antibac- sort of trend now in the republican party now that it's becoming more mainstream. Republican party really does fit with the larger story. They're trying to tell which is you can't trust the radical left and the radical left is now taking over all of our institutions and now they're in power and they're going to constantly make you do shit that you don't want to do they're going to force things in your life and if they give you a vaccine you can't trust that vaccine from the radical left just like you can't trust them teaching things in schools and you can't trust them that they're going to you know they're going to try to take away your free speech right like it has all of sort of peace here. That's overwhelming theme. The the the liberals are going to take stuff from you in the far right wing of the republican party are we are the only ones who can stop them guns freedom of speech your facebook feed cova restrictions funding for cops the border and then eventually it got to trump who is like and they took the result of the election from you right. The there was somebody wandering. Washington post found somebody wandering around cpac which you know looked to be any really any big political gathering. Has this of person it. You know a backpack covered in buttons lot of red string of big sign with strings from george soros to champ biden like back and forth lines all over the place and that was always taken as this sort of status quo ante like there are these infringe figures with conspiracy theories but now like you have former national security advisers doing events taking pictures in front of the same kind of thing. Donald trump is like a red string guy now standing in front of this group of people and madison. Cawthorn saying that they're going to go door to door to take your bibles guns like this vaccination effort which they're obviously there is no national door to door campaign but this is a dry run for some future nefarious. Act like the that is now at the center of the republican party. That's but it's also like you know everything. Everything new is old. Right i it. It reminds you in brian. Butler wrote about this In his newsletter last week it reminds you of the death panels and fury over obamacare in twenty ten right. Which is the government's gonna decide whether you live or die now. It's the government's going to go door to door and make you take this vaccine that we're not sure we know. Do we really know. What senate do we really know if it safe. Donald johnny deserves credit for it deserves credit for it in the the classic grievance politics true and it's it's highly racial and trump made more explicit than ever before when he was saying horrible things about mexicans during announcement speech. But it's basically like hey white republican base liberals are gonna take things from you and give them to other people worry about your status..
"cpac" Discussed on Rusted Culture Podcast
"Become different. I got a beach twice. that'd be worse became worse. They just don't get it folks. Just don't get it. He did become worse. And he's he's telling you that he became worse. I mean does it get any better than this. I just don't understand so here he is. He's channeling roy. Cohn here folks for a for a moment. And he's going to share with you the roy cohn.
"cpac" Discussed on The Politics Guys
"Know we've mentioned this before. We are in the midst of. There's a civil war in the republican party and we don't wanna talk about it because that kind of terminology Sounds bad it's bad for elections but you. The crux of the matter is. Is that in our big tent for a long time. There have been the classical conservatives. Libertarians like myself who had enough close relationships. Either because of religiosity again me or for other kinds of social reasons with your more traditional conservatives and your social conservatives in that was the republican coalition now. I think what happened is slowly but surely we just didn't recognize it. And i'll i'll i will be honest as the next person to say i did not see this. Although in retrospect i think it's easier to kind of To do an autopsy on mature right. We have seen populism come in. I think especially kind of a white nationalist populism i. I'm just going to be blunt or at least even if it's not overtly in that Vein it is in a Kind of a dog whistle way a of a of a populist which is a combination that i think is unique and i think that's something if trump is going to be go down in history as having any kind of insight. I think it was recognizing that that was a big beat piece of the republican party in a way that many of us had not recognized. And so here we see this these polls coming out here at cpac and i think this kind of coin toss position between the trump. Which is this populist view. I think in a positive way versus myself and others and and this is the turning point. And i think the question is going to be over. The next few years is we determined. That next candidate is. This is going to be the republican party Of the future. You know. I think it's telling that trump came to see pack and i think it's also telling that he came out and argued that. Hey you know that everything was fake news about me. Starting my own party. And i don't think that was all fake news. I think that was donald trump trying to decide where he had the best chance. And i think the fact that he shows up at cpac is an indication that he still has hope or he views himself as having still hope and the republican party because if we know anything trump does not care about blowing things up so if you thought that starting a party would be the best path or he would have started party. Yeah so he comes to cpac because either based on his gut or some kind of data that we don't have access to he thinks this is the way forward..