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Fauci says Trump should urge Republicans to get vaccinated
"Little dirty worm. This Fauci, you know what they call him in Washington behind his back. He's known as Tony Baloney that zoom in Washington D C. Tony Baloney. This guy is such a fraud. Such a weasel this worm found to use on all the Sunday shows. If only Trump would endorse the vaccine. It would be, it would seems like an intrinsic contradiction. that you had a program that was started during his pregnancy, and he's not out telling people to get vaccinated. I wish he would. He has such an incredible influence. Over people in the Republican Party. It would really be a game changer if he did know what is he saying if Trump would only endorse the vaccine That would be a game changer. Isn't that what he just said? Yes on If you don't believe me, I have this up on Twitter. You can see it. On March, 4th. Dr. Anthony Fauci publicly thanked Donald Trump for endorsing the vaccine. Remember the one big speech that Trump made was cpac? That was the speech that everybody saw the 30 million people. That was the speech and certainly all of his followers saw that. In the middle of that speech, he endorsed the vaccine. And if you check my Twitter if you think I'm kidding. It was March the fourth doctor Fauci after that speech, thank the president for endorsing the vaccine. So yesterday, he said. Why can't the press endorsed vaccine about you could save? Maybe he forgot. It's only 10 days. Do you think he forgot? He's just a con man. That's why behind his back in Washington. Everybody calls him Tony Baloney. Uh, Trump not only endorsed the vaccine. He created the vaccine. That's like saying a JFK. Why can't you endorse this base program? He's the one that created it and pushed it. What endorsed the vaccine. He's the one that created Operation Warp speed. He's the one that set up the program to get the vaccine. Fauci, his own boss. Said, watching Trump run operation Vaccine. Exact words was breathtaking and miraculously a watch. So this phony baloney. Fauci has gotta go
Senate passes $1.9 trillion COVID relief package
"The big news is the covid relief. Bill in fact i was saying the trade just before we got started. This is saturday morning. We're recording this watching c. span is the amendments. Were kind of going by but as most people. I'm sure no that on thursday. The senate opened debate on president. Biden's one point nine trillion dollar covert relief bill. That was passed last week by the house with no republican support and initially debate was delayed because republican senator ron johnson decided he would not agree to the waving of the reading the bill and so some poor senate clerks had a read all six hundred plus pages of it so yeah but then after. That was the still going on as at this point. The vote a rama. Which for those. Who don't know is a feature of the budget reconciliation process which this measures being passed to avoid a filibuster. And this also allows senators to introduce a stream of amendments that have to be voted on prior to final passage of that underlying legislation. Few of these amendments are are typically passed but it does allow the majority or the minority party to get the majority on record for votes that they hope will be politically damaging to them and putting helpful to their own careers.
Amazon changes its app logo after some said it resembled Hitler
"Has changed new apple logo. After critics claimed it resembled hitler's facial features at issue was the blue tape above the smiling arrow critic said the icon. Look like hitler's moustache. The company has now tweaked the image. So the tape is folded non rigid.
"cpac" Discussed on FiveThirtyEight Politics
"She's not as left as people in california like she's pretty liberal on these issues mark warner's he's more moderate but i think there are people who are left on issues. Still feel this way about this. I mean i'm assuming if you call in west. Virginia increase in the minimum wage is actually really popular. We'll minimum wage increases are very popular. Just broadly i would assume mansion has helped by a minimum wage increase in voting for. I assume he would vote for something like this. If it came up the filibuster His brand matters. This is hard to figure out. I think as. I think this branded mansion and cinema half probably is helpful like the near attendant thing like much less important example so like near tendon has been managed to run oh embi and mansion is the only democrat has been against it in public so far to me. This seems like a free shot for mansion to say. Look i'm an independent person is a high profile story. that also really doesn't matter because biden. We'll find another ownby director in two hours if it came to that and so i think that's where i think the brand stuff does matter and i. I think that brand is electoral helpful to him. I also think largely polls have shown that democrats really do want congress to work together more so than republicans like that is something that pugh is consistently found in the most recent surveys like sixty two percent want biden to work with republicans even if it means disappointing. Some of his voters and that was that was the language of the poll. Like we'll see how that continues here in the next four years particularly as key. Parts of the democratic agenda is not able to be put through reconciliation. But at this point. There's not really like a clear dividing line on the filibuster. Either in the lead up to twenty twenty a harvard. Caps harris poll found that fifty two percents. It would be a good idea to get rid of it. Forty eight percent would be a bad idea again though. I don't know how much that has been. Something that has been talked about actively outside of leftist circles increasingly though if that becomes the one avenue in which to push through some of the democrats bigger agenda items. I think you'll see more who don't believe that. Like people care about the filibuster self voters or that it will be an automating issue. That can't be the case right. Well i would assume that on specific policies. No but that as a signalling mechanism. Yes right we have talked about before the party is seen or a leader or a newly elected president is seen as overly partisan too liberal to conservative. that can create some kind of backlash. But it's not going to be like people are just devastated by the filibuster. Rules changes etcetera. It's more like a signal that the party is more liberal. No totally. But i guess my point then is i. I completely agree with that in. Its think like some of the opposition to getting rid of the filibuster is about branding and some of it may be other. Senators is about more institutional history or something but if it's just about signaling then it's just much more ephemeral and then if you make a good argument if getting rid of the filibuster is attached to something. Let's say that has bipartisan. Support like raising the minimum wage. Then maybe you can switch what it's a signal of to sarah's point keeping the filibuster a signal of brinkley..
"cpac" Discussed on FiveThirtyEight Politics
"The senate parliamentarian who is a nonpartisan official charged basically with interpreting the rules of the senate ruled that the federal minimum wage could not be raised through the reconciliation process in other words if democrats want to raise the minimum wage. They either need to get sixty senators on board or come up with a policy work around that could get some kind of minimum wage raise incentive through reconciliation otherwise. They could take more drastic approach like firing the parliamentarian or changing the rules of the filibuster. So this is the first time that they're facing this dilemma. But it's very unlikely to be the last. We want to talk about some of the debate within the party over what to do about it. And we can broaden this out to some of the other policy areas but remaining on minimum wage for a moment. What is the party thinking now about how it's going. This is a key part of its agenda. What it campaigned on twenty twenty. What do democrats want to do now about trying to raise the minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour nationally. I think they're gonna put it aside to get covid relief past right. Yeah i mean there was talk that sanders biden. We're gonna try to push through a corporate tax penalty as a way to do it. They're abandoning that. From what i can tell it. Seems as if full table at for now revisited. At some other point what does that mean. Though that the minimum wage is not going to be raised over the next two years. I think it's not going to pass. It's like this is the only way to get. It passed the next two years in the parliamentarian gutted. It's i think this gives to the question about either they get rid of the filibuster or the minimum wage is not increase. This is just binary. There's no like there's ten republicans in the senate who would be open to raising it to like somewhere close to fifteen the question whether you ready to eleven dollars or eleven fifty. I don't see it. But i think there might be some amount of like. There's some republicans who are moving a little building romney in say either holly or cotton came off right thing ten or eleven dollars. A maybe there's something in the middle. Fifteen dollars is definitely filibuster robust. But i think maybe there's some in the middle there between so inviting knows but the flip of that though is i've seen that warren was like no it's fifteen i don't do eleven and i mean again. I don't think we're at this point. That like eleven syria so that that could very well change..
"cpac" Discussed on FiveThirtyEight Politics
"Should we think of him as the likeliest twenty twenty four nominee and cover him as such so. If in twenty seventeen barack obama had written a letter detailing how much he thinks. Nancy pelosi sucks. That would have been news. The mcconnell trump thing. I think that letter get a lot of coverage. And i think should've if barack obama had net roots nation or whatever and giving a big speech saying michelle is going to run or what. I guess. He getting run himself. That would have been news too. So i think trump every utterance of his is not important but i think there are some things that are important like when he met with marjorie taylor green when they were fighting about what she should have with her. That was inevitable. When he met with mccarthy. I mean i think these initial moves are interesting if he does the same moves like six months from now. Leonard from trump say mcconnell sucks two weeks from now is less newsworthy because it already happened but i still think these things matter in the broad is what i am leery about as you can see. News outlets are assigning reporters to cover trump and some of the reporters are doing lots of sources close to trump said x. We don't really need anonymous sources on trump. He's not president but we don't really need that kind of like breathless endless dumb covers. It was dumb at the time. He was president at times as well and i thought a lot of the height of the run-up to his speech. We don't need to preview an ex-president speech weakness. Let him give a speech and cover but the previewing seemed weird. So i think there are some incentives because of traffic because of how interesting trump is to sort of over cover him and maybe undercover what people would actual governing power who were mayors or governors as legislators. I think the question is we should cover like shrimp ism. How trump style values are affecting the republican party constantly we should covered donald trump as a human. Maybe a little less is my sense of. I'd offer two things. One is to like just not hand trump. The mike and get out of the way i think media outlets had mostly learned that lesson since two thousand sixteen so i think that's less of a problem now. I was like checking around yesterday during the cpac speech and i think that it was only fox who was running speech live. So that's a big one and the other one. This is the part where i'm just slightly restating. But perry said editors reporters. I think should always i ask themselves. Why are we covering this trump events or trump's speech or trump action. Whatever it is are we covering it as a way into the dynamics in the broader republican party okay fine rb covering it because trump himself will have sway over some specific. Let's say a bill is in front of congress and trump is lobbying republicans in congress to vote..
"cpac" Discussed on The Michael Berry Show
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"cpac" Discussed on The Michael Berry Show
"We're going to share with you that speech today because this is the presumptive nominee in twenty twenty. Four if he runs again. This is the president in waiting the president in exile and the thought leader. So we're going to go through that speech one piece at a time and let you hear it in case you didn't the start at the beginning. Well thank you very much and hello cpac. Do you miss me yet. You miss a lot of things going on.
Trump returns to the spotlight with unhinged CPAC speech.
"President. Donald trump on sunday declared himself the dominant figure in the fractured republican party and attacked president joe biden in his first major appearance since leaving the white house nearly six weeks ago. I stand before you today to declare that the incredible journey we began together for years. Ago is far. From over trump told the conservative political action conference in orlando florida. A civil war has erupted within the republican party with establishment figures like senate minority leader mitch. Mcconnell eager to put trump in the rear view mirror and others like trump ally. Senator lindsey graham believing. The party's future depends on the energy of the pro-trump conservative base. The republican party is united. The only division is between a handful of washington dc establishment political hacks and everybody else all over the country trump said. He also confirmed that he would not be starting a new political party after being chosen by cpac straw poll as the preferred republican candidate for twenty twenty four trump fervor at the four day. Cpac event has been so strong that trump's son donald trump junior declared it t- pack and participants rolled out a golden statue of the former president made in mexico in the short term. He he's making plans to set up a super pac political organization to support candidates who mirror his policies. An advisor said trump speech included attacks against joe biden including on immigration and security along the us border with mexico and the slow reopening of schools closed due to the pandemic. He also claimed his journey was the most successful of any form president despite losing the white house congress and the senate and the popular vote to the democrats
Trump set to return to the spotlight with CPAC speech
"Less than six weeks after leaving office former president Donald Trump is returning to the political spotlight trump will deliver the closing speech at the conservative political action conference that's been taking place in Orlando Florida attendees like Martha may cut jade say they're ready for his comeback we want to see our president and I think our president meaning the people's president and what should they expect maybe settling some scores American conservative union chairman match lacked by the same token I think he's going to talk about this coalition that he built me to the coalition like the Republican party's ever seen before he's very popular among Republicans on ABC's this week senator rob Portman I do think that the policies are what's even more popular and that's why Republicans actually did pretty well in twenty twenty other than the presidential level I'm Ben Thomas
Former President Trump reasserts leadership over the Republican Party at CPAC
"In a return to the political stage, former President Trump criticizing the bite administration and calling for Republican Party unity. White House correspondent Greg Clugston. Speaking at CPAC. Trump described the opening weeks of the Biden administration as disastrous, singling out immigration, energy and LGBT policies. The former president said his conservative movement is far from being over. But he has no plans on starting a third political
CPAC: Trump takes jabs at Biden administration
"Taking a few jabs at the current administration All knew that the Biden administration was going to be bad, but none of us even imagined just how bad they would be. And how far left they would go. At CPAC in Orlando. He also crushed rumors of starting a new party, saying Republicans have a solid foundation. More vaccines are ready for
New York Gov. Cuomo Asks AG, Top Judge to Appoint Investigator
"The state's attorney general and chief justice to appoint an independent investigator to look into sexual harassment claims against the governor. This follows The New York Times report yesterday, which says a second former aide came forward to say Cuomo made inappropriate advances. The latest allegation comes from a former executive assistant to the embattled governor. Charlotte Bennett claims Andrew Cuomo asked her quote questions about her sex life and if she ever had sex with older men and quote, a 25 year old former aide said the 63 year old made the comments back in June in his office, but said the governor never physically touched her. Limo denied the claims and asked for an independent review. Into them. This comes to stays after the first claim of sexual harassment by Cuomo from Lindsey Boylan, this all while the controversy over his nursing home scandal continues a gun store owner and Albany put up a giant billboard along the highway calling for Cuomo to be impeached, who's actually stronger? Cpac's headline speech
Donald Trump at CPAC: Ex-president expected to declare himself leader of Republican Party at Orlando event
"And former President Trump will be the keynote speaker this afternoon. If conservative political action conference in Orlando. Many are waiting to see if Trump gives any indication that he'll run in 2024, the former president is widely expected to win a GOP straw. Poll taken among CPAC attendees prior to this afternoon
Republicans rally at CPAC in Orlando
"Predicting the Republicans will win back a majority in the House House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy at the conservative Political Action Conference or CPAC, in Orlando, Florida We're gonna get Shorty back five seats away. President Trump expected to speak at the CPAC conference in Orlando tomorrow.
At CPAC, rising GOP stars send message that Trump is here to stay
"Hot item at CPAC is a likeness of former President Trump. Cpac is hosting former President Trump's first speech since he left the White House. But he is already happy Conservative Conference in Orlando and both how often he's referenced by other speakers and in the form of a 6 ft gold colored statue. It's the work of Tommy's Egon three years ago when they were coming out with the baby Trump and the Trump on a toilet, making Trump. I was disgusted with those that I said I could do a better job. He said. He tried to get the statue in front of the 45th president earlier tried to take it to trump his state. But I didn't get past the secret service. He hopes it will wind up in a future Trump Library. Brian Clark ABC NEWS
Trump to target Biden and assert leadership over GOP at CPAC
"CBS NEWS reports Former President Donald Trump plans to reaffirm his leadership of the Republican Party and sharply criticized President Biden for an early focus on immigration policy. When he addresses the CPAC conference tomorrow. It'll be Trump's first major speech of his post White House, a senior adviser to Trump tell CBS News. Trump is expected to call out some of his most vocal critics, but has no plans to announce a 2024 campaign to win back the presidency.
At CPAC, rising GOP stars send message that Trump is here to stay
"Conservative firebrands. Expressing confidence in the Trump agenda as a path back to power. In Washington, D C. Texas senator Ted Cruz said this just before hopping on stage, the Democrats are gonna overshoot. They're going to go too far. Their ideas don't work, And that means 2022 is going to be a very good election. And 2024 is gonna be a very good election. And it's 2024, which makes most conservative voters curious. As they wonder if former President Donald Trump will try again for the White House. Mr. Trump is set to speak here on Sunday at CPAC in Orlando. Evan Brown Fox
Biden visits Texas one day after airstrikes in Syria
"Biden's first trip as president. Following a natural disaster came just a day after his first military action as president airstrikes that landed in syria against sites used by iranian backed militia groups in response to rocket attacks on american forces. Ron you can't get you can't act with impunity. Careful some of biden's fellow democrats on the hill or questioning his authority to launch the air strikes california democratic congressman roque khanna guest on this broadcast earlier. This week captured their concern with this message. And we quote we cannot stand up for congressional authorization before military strikes only when there is a republican president. The administration should have sought congressional authorization.
Former President Trump Headlines Conservative Gathering CPAC
"Trump headlines the premier Conservative gathering CPAC. For Pacifica Network and Public News Service. I'm Mary Sherman and their conference dedicated to the future of the conservative movement is already underway. And it's turned into an ode to Donald Trump. As speakers declared today, their fealty to the former president and attendees posed for Selfies with a golden statue of his likeness. As the Republican Party grapples with deep divisions over the extent to which they should embrace Trump After losing the White House and losing both chambers of Congress, those gathered at the annual conservative political Action Conference in central Florida made clear they're not ready to move on from the former president or from his baseless charges that the November election was rigged against him. Republican Senator Just Holly of Missouri, a potential presidential 2024 awful drew among the loudest applause today and the standing ovation when he bragged about Is challenging of the election certification on January 6th despite the storming of the Capitol building by Trump's supporters trying to halt the Institutionally mandated process. Trump will not arrive at the conference until Sunday, but was present in spirit in the form of a large golden statue erected in a merchandise show booth where attendees could pose for pictures with it more from reporters. Simon marks the stage is set in the US for a big weekend in Republican Party politics. Former President Donald Trump will address the conservative political action conference in Florida, where he's expected to stake his claim to the ongoing leadership of the Republican Party. The former president's former White House chief of staff is Mark Meadows. We will see the start of planning for the next administration, and I can tell you The people. They're the top of that list. All of them have. Trump is their last name. He spoke to Fox News Simon marks reporting. Immigrant rights activists
"cpac" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"The best reporters on this beat. Thank you very much. And as investigators continue to arrest and charge the january six riders. The big lie. That prompted the attempted insurrection was being celebrated at the annual gathering of conservatives known as cpac this image capture captures the unofficial theme this year the idolatry of the twice impeach for president. The man who the mob attacked the capital four. Who's going to give his first post presidential speech at cpac this weekend to be clear. That is actually real. It is not stunt for the next borat movie just pure irony free trump idolatry. Your orlando sentinel spoke to the artists behind the statue. Who said he tried donating trump's residents and mar-a-lago on the former president's birthdays but was stopped by secret service. That makes some sense. He said he hoped it ends up in trump's presidential library someday it's a piece of americana he said it certainly is. It's going to go down in history now. Moving conservative and these days is really indistinguishable from that statute from the worship of trump. There's a reason people been comparing the statute to the biblical golden calf worshiping trump. also of course means pushing the big lie about the election chair of the group that organizes the conference match lap told the washington post that the idea that we're going to come up with some kind of conservative platform at cpac. It rings a little hollow schlab adding right now. Half the country feels cheated by the media coverage elections. We're going to go back and cover the facts that most people in the media cancelled lots going on there. What he's saying is the whole point of conferences. Years to try to basically keep trying to con america into believing trump won. The election was stolen and that played in the room. just listen to the crowd's reaction with senator. Josh hawley. Brought up his efforts. To overturn the will of the american people on january the sixth i objected during the electoral college certification. Maybe.
Ted Cruz jokes: Orlando isn't as nice as Cancun, but it's nice enough
"Senator Ted Cruz at CPAC in Orlando today, joking about his trip to Cancun as a state was suffering through a cold snap. I got to say Orlando is awesome. It's not as nice as Cancun. Well, speaking today that conservative political action conference in Florida he was subject of much ridicule since he was spotted hopping a flight to the resort city last week. Along with family.
Ted Cruz in CPAC speech says ‘Trump ain’t goin’ anywhere’
"Freedom and hammering the democrats agenda themes for conservatives gathered in florida with future of the gop is also a topic. Texas senator ted cruz says the former president will continue to be influential look at donald j trump and they look at the millions and millions of people inspire who went to battle fighting alongside president trump. And they're terrified and want him to go away. Let me tell you this right now. Donald j trump ain't going anywhere. Trump is scheduled to speak sunday at cpac.
The Conservative Political Action Conference happens every year but 2021 will be different
"Is the big star of this year's conservative political action conference in Orlando and Republicans Coast to coast Wanna know his political future? There have been sweeping predictions about what he'll say is the keynote speaker on Sunday. Ranging from policy issues, too personal grievances about his election loss. Meanwhile, another potential presidential candidate governor Dissatisfied is leading off CPAC this morning as the most popular Florida Republican not named Trump State. Leo University Polling Institute director Frank Orlando says support for two satisfies policies on reopening schools and businesses ranges from 56 to 60%. With support for his vaccine rollout at 62%, which means he's getting support, obviously among Republicans, but also among independents and even some Democrats. Orlando says attacks on the status is covert response from Democrats just seemed to make him stronger with Republicans.
"cpac" Discussed on KILF Morning New Podcast
"L. i. f. There's been so much going on the last couple of weeks from the winter weather to covid vaccines but some political news is definitely starting to make waves most notably republicans we could and expecting to hear from president trump. Again this weekend at the cpac conference the conservative political action committee. Yan is also talk about ted cruz. Been under fire. Recently can rebuild his image joining us. To talk about. These issues is more is. Smu political science professor cal jokes in morton cal. Good morning. how are you good. I guess you're not surprised that we're going to hear for the former president on sunday at cpac no at some point he was going to Reemerge and and this is. This is a good place for him. It'll be very friendly audience and I think the reason mike pence decided not to attend is that is that if he did he'd be charged with disloyalty president. So cpac is is Really great venue for former president trump to reemerge and to try to reestablish himself in the pole position as the leader of the republican party looking toward twenty twenty four. Well there was a recent poll. I think that showed Like something like forty six percent of of the republicans. Who were polled said. They would leave the party if If donald trump started the third party. And i'm wondering how much How how crucial is this period of time for the future of the republican party and the conservative movement. Yeah i i think that you know. President trump is right that he is still the leader of the republican party. But that is the problem And it's a big problem for the republican party because it means that the the party is divided between president defeated perea election. Who lost both houses of congress. Lost those two georgia senate seats but demands to retain control of the party against the more establishment wing headed by mitch mcconnell and you know to me and others who are who are retiring That that potential split within the republican party really does threaten electoral prospects in twenty twenty four. Maybe even and twenty twenty two if trump decides to punish people by primary them if they haven't been sufficiently loyal to him so if you're a democrat you just sit back and watch and enjoy the division within the republican party. That could be there for a while. we're talking with. Smu political science professor jason. Let's get back to mike pence It sounds like mike. Pence has not speaking to the president and vice versa. What is mike pence his political future. Well he's not sure what it is and And nobody else can be there because as long as trump is is established as the leader of the republican party that tension between he and pants over the january sixth rioting in the capital that came close to pants. And the idea that you know hang. Mike pence is being chanted by By the people in the capital is weighing heavily on on pences. Mind at this point. He can only reemerge If president trump is is receding figure in the party and that's really true for a lot of republicans who would like to be twenty twenty four Republican presidential candidate You know you'd think of people like tom. Cotton or ted cruz or or others who see themselves as as potential presidents as long as trump is there. There's nowhere for them to go well given that Donald trump is he he's still donald trump. he he's the he's the guy that we've known for the last four or five years And he's full of that fire in his belly. He's the leader of the party and yadda yadda but he still. I think probably realistic enough to understand that if he's going to make the kind of return that he's he's desiring. He's going to need some help from those people that he's been blasting in the mainstream republican party. Yeah i think one of the one of the ongoing problems that donald trump has is it he explodes everything around himself. like And he seems to thrive on the idea of of chaos in emergency and an emerging from from this latest trial. So i don't think donald trump you can expect a smooth well-choreographed emergence back into the spotlight in which everyone else in. The republican party falls in behind him. He's going to continue going after anyone who has offended him by being insufficiently supportive toward the end of his administration. And that's not just my pets for mike. Pence stood with him for four years and in the last couple of weeks got sideways and trump will never forget it. Senator ted cruz has been under fire for his trip to cancun. Then he came back and he was in front of tv cameras handing out water in houston and such And was that enough to rebuild his image. Or what's it gonna take. Well you know. You've got to start by thinking about ted cruz image. And what rebuilding would mean for him. Because he's an acquired taste and the question for him really is whether the republican base sticks with him and and he continues to have that advantage in the republican primary where he would be the nominee four or five years from now when you next runs again four years from now and and then When in the in the general election. So i think i think it's serious damage but it's not unrecoverable because he's got Three years at least until the campaign starts for years before any voting but it was a it was an ugly picture early on for him to throw his children ten and twelve years old. The bus it was there off. They wanted to go to cancun. I was just being a good dad. You know. I know ten-year-old schedules family vacations so far as i know so wasn't a good look for him but but he's had lots of bad days and he knows that the new cycle turns over pretty quickly. Yeah we keep talking about The way it looks the other optics. And i just keep coming back to the idea. That is a united states senator. He has nothing to do with the with the electric grid in texas and Standing there hawking bottles of water is perhaps as far from reality is an. And i just i. I don't know if it's the hyperbolic nature of the media these days and partisan politics or you know if there's anything if there's any reason they should even be considered seriously by people. Yeah i think you whether it should be not it is And and most united states senators understand sort of in their bones that that in under conditions of emergency. They're expected to be seen in there. Expected to be playing their role. And it's a lot of people have pointed out the role of the united states. Senator is not necessarily handed out bottles of water but it is working washington together as much support for their home state as possible as quickly as possible and just going off to cancun under emergency. Conditions is a bad look and for a politician. That's something you want to avoid. If at all possible. And he recognized that as soon as he. He felt that sand between his toes and he was back in less than twenty four hours. Trying to undo the damage but damage had already been done. Tallow is a you kill. Thank you i joined it. Smu political science professor kelsen. He's right at grizzle. Only time for one margarita before politics..
"cpac" Discussed on Skullduggery
"Were totally wrong right. A lot of millennials see the failure of Hillary Clinton and the election of Donald Trump as a failure of the political establishment particularly in the Democratic Party. So you have these this series of establishment failures in rap in fairly quick succession over the course of just really fifteen years and that can help explain? Why so many millennials are so attracted to somebody who is not only conviction candidate but is defined by his anti establishmentarian them and who seems to reject a lot of the things that they think have already failed them? But why should we think that this is that this new generation is somehow going to lead to a new politics? I mean first of all. I mean certainly the idealism of youth which over time you know turns into the pragmatism and perhaps wisdom of getting older is a common theme in throughout history. This happens all the time. What makes you think that? This millennial generation is somehow going to break the mold in any meaningful way. So I think this is an important distinction to make. I'm not arguing that they're going to be better. I'm not arguing. That millennials are going to come into power and it's going to be this utopia of all the you know everything's GonNa work better and everyone will treat each other nicely and America will be you know like a happy in joyful place. I'm arguing that it will be different that the that the particular that millennials will make their own their own mistakes. They'll come in with their own flawed assumptions. They'll make their own strategic errors but the those mistakes will be different in kind than the mistakes. That boomers made. Because and this is I think central to the argument of the book that people build their political assumptions based in their bill their political attitudes based on the experiences of their early adulthood. And that baby boomers are fundamentally. Different from millennials mostly because they are building their politics based off of a different set of experiences in early adulthood. So I mean I think socialism is probably the best example of this right. Baby boomers think of socialism they think of the Soviet Union. They think of Cuba they think of Gulags and bread lines and horrific war and starvation millennials think of socialism. You know millennials who by the way the oldest ones were nine when the Berlin Wall fell right. They think of socialism and they think of Sweden where there's free childcare and you know universal health care and accessible education for everybody. I'm not saying whether that's right or wrong. They could be wrong. The point is that it's different and that this generation is in charge. We will have a different set of assumptions guiding the way our leaders and our voters act. But isn't it also the case? That mean you suggest. That millennials are going to usher in a new age of progressive politics but in two thousand eighteen when. Eo was elected and she was the shiniest of that class most Democrats who were elected and I think a lot of younger Democrats actually were centrists. Were more moderate and and you know they. They flipped trump seats So what is the evidence that this generation is going to drive a more kind of progressive liberal agenda than something more moderate just responding to the electorate. So I think you're totally right to point that out and I always like to say that you know it is true that the way to think about this is that the millennial progressive socialist base is changing the conversation. But they're not putting points on the board. They are not flipping the seats in the place as the Democrats needed to win. That was done by moderates But to go back to Pete Buddha judge I actually think Pete Judges a really good example of this because the far left has always been the far left. Right what's changed at? The center has actually moved to the more liberal. Yes so pete who is as you just described moderate reviled by the left younger progressives. Don't like him. He's not considered to be a true progressive. P supports universal healthcare. Even though he doesn't go as far as burning on medicare for all he supports the idea of universal health insurance and massive government intervention to make that happen. He supports a massive government intervention to address climate change. He supports student. Debt forgiveness he wants to put millions of people to work you know building infrastructure creating jobs in communities like those are for the moderate standard bearer of the Democratic Party of the millennials to be advocating positions like that that indicates to me that the center has moved to the elbow. One could argue that. Our Algorithm candidate is simply trying to appeal to a democratic base in a primary. And that's what you gotta say. And that's not really where he's at. Chevron is not always true yes it is and I mean. That's the political process. I gotta say. I'm glad though that you make the point that you're not arguing that this is going to be a new dawn of America. That's going to transform us because one of the books I was thinking about when I was reading yours was Something well before your time. The greening of America in nineteen seventy by Charles Reich which argued that the baby boom. We're going to bring in this new higher consciousness of personal freedom and anti war sentiment and the counterculture that was going to transform America ten years after he wrote that book. Ronald Reagan was elected president than the country went on a very different path so his excitement about what the baby boomers. We're going to bring the country but the baby boomers. I don't know it may be that. The baby boomers did something similar to what Charlotte was just talking about which is the they should have changed the baseline right that That the baby boomers with their fight for civil rights antiwar okay. That gets a little more complicated but they may have moved the center a little bit to the left well and chain certain assumptions. What I wanted to ask you about Charlotte is how the Republican Party is reacting to this. This wave that that is coming because you know. The Republicans in power are also pretty old Mitch McConnell is seventy seven seventy eight years. Old Is the Republican Party. Doing anything to get ready for this. Are there any signs that they understand that this generational change is you know is going to have a huge impact on their ability to retain power in Washington so they were and then trump got elected so basically over the course of Obama's presidency? The Republican Party actually was doing a couple really smart things to try to attract young people and in fact you know the two thousand famous two thousand thirteen. Rnc autopsy after Romney Law Forgotten. Yeah you know that I S- are you in this book that that was actually basically right. It's just that the timing was off so that autopsy argued that in order to survive. The Republican Party had to do better with women people of Color and young people and during Obama's second term. They actually made some real progress. On that day elected some young women they elected they got a couple young Hispanic Republicans in office like At least a phonic Carlos Carabello who are in this book those young Republicans over the course of Obama's second term you know we're carving out this conservative path on climate change a conservative path on immigration They were sort of you know helping to draw the Republican Party into the future on marriage. Equality trying to say like. Hey let's come down about this you know. And then trump happened and suddenly it became much much much more difficult for those young moderate Republicans. Who were trying to drag their party into the future. Well it's interesting. You know anybody who knows who at least phonic is these days rose who she is because she was such an ardent defender of Donald Trump in his point that you you spent a lot of time with her death portrait of her but I think most of it was written before this trump defender so explain. Yeah how and why so she so at least a phonic is one of the most calculating ambitious people I've ever spoken to. She and I should clarify that. Listen I had to finish this book in October. It went to the printer in November. She didn't really get her star. Turn in the impeachment hearings until January. Right I could tell already that. She was inching towards trumpism and that she had kind of depart that this path that she was she was kind of in this position of doing this little dance and sort of creeping down this path of. I like something president does I don't like other things. And she spent most of the last four years trying to trying to sort of distance herself from trump. And I could tell at the end of this writing process that she was that period had ended and that she was about to embrace him. But I just didn't know exactly how that would happen so I couldn't write it because it hadn't happened yet. I mean the thing about at least a phonic is that she is a Republican from upstate. New York right which means that. She has no path in statewide office. She's never going to get elected to the Senate and she's never going to get elected to the governor's mansion because this is New York state right so her and she is deeply loyal to the Republican Party. She's George W Bush person. She's a Mitt Romney Person. She cares a lot about the future of the GOP. And that's why she's been somebody who's been really active in trying to get more women into the party trying to get more young people into the party. I think she made and again. This is just. She didn't tell me this. This is just what I think. Based on knowing her talking to her I think she made a calculation. She realized that her only path forward is up through the house. She has to keep her house seat. She wants to. She seems pretty. Well positioned to be in leadership and the only way to do that is in this era of the Republican Party is to support trump. I also think she has. She's trying to have her cake and eat it too. Because in ten years or fifteen years when she runs for something else you know she'll be able to say to the trump people. Hey I was with your guy and you'll also be able to say to the moderate Republicans. Hey here's my record on climate change. And here's my record on immigration. So I think that she's like this is a woman who's yearbook photo. This didn't make it into the book. Her background of her yearbook page was the White House. Okay so I think that that tells you a little bit about her aspiration a little naked question now. She was a contemporary with Buddha. Judge Harvard. And tell us about their relationship such as it was so they were both at Harvard at the same time. They both did the I. O P Institute of Policy Institute the Institute of Politics which is like this sort of politics nerd like thing at Harvard. Basically multiple people who knew them on campus. Say that they went on a date. That was the scuttle butt on campus. Both of them strenuously denied us but in ways that seem like a bit protesting too much. I think what it was was one of those like maybe dates where they got A. They weren't like interrelationship. They weren't in love clearly. Pete's gay like But Pete was dating women at that time and you know it seems to me like the most logical explanation for this is that they went on this coffee date that was like a maybe date and they both kind of realized podcast. That trolls using air quotes quotes. Pseudo date okay last question for you. Charlotte are there new millennial candidates Who you're looking at in this Upcoming election who you think Are going to be exciting to people. The way that was. I mean I did notice that some of the some of these primary races. The progressive candidate who've taken on more moderate Democrats have lost Cisneros Yeah for example. What are you seeing in the kind of next class coming In terms of this this wave that you write about so I have to be declared by like I have been really focused on twenty twenty so And I've been covering that for time so I haven't been as much like searching these people out as I once was. I definitely think Charles Booker in Kentucky is really exciting. There are some exciting young people who are running for mayor in New York City. And I think that you know one of the challenges of having this presidential election right now. Is that frankly one of the reasons I wrote. This book is to give oxygen and give some profile to people who don't get covered because they're not going to be president right and the way. Our political media is is operated right. Now it's like so focused on the presidency And maybe I've fallen into that a little bit since I finished this book because I've been really focused on the presidency but I will do some research and I will get back more nails. I've got one more for Charlotte because it's a passage in my favorite chapter in the book. The chapters called Harry Potter and the spawn of boomer and in the courses that you cite a book by somebody named Gene Twinge who wrote that..
"cpac" Discussed on Skullduggery
"ISIKOFF chief. Investigative correspondent for Yahoo News. And I'm Clyde editor in chief of Yahoo News so as we Speak we're taping this podcast in New York. I took the train up yesterday. the ACELA from Washington DC to New York and. There were two people on the car that I was sitting at. It was pretty remarkable. That people are staying away from public gatherings and public transportation. You know. I don't think I've ever covered a story quite like this In the sense that it touches every American and I talk about nine eleven. I was thinking impact of that story. but that was not sort of direct in the same way. I mean it did not have the in the sense that it did not have an impact on everyone's behavior shoreline wives. I mean it changed. Air Airplane travel forever the security. We have through every time we'd take a flight I mean that's certainly an example of how nine eleven disrupted and changed our lives and right now this virus is disrupting and changing our lives and the other thing is is the and this was true of nine eleven as well as the level of uncertainty and uncertainty is what strikes fear in people. Because they don't know what's coming next we look and see you know started in China but then now it's moved to Europe which is the new China that could've ground zero in in this third of Italy is essentially under quarantine while the entire country is in lockdown. Italians not well not tree right. Oh no travel right in in Italy and it's a One of those moments where our responsibility as journalists is to provide as much accurate information as responsibly. As we possibly can. But there's so much we don't know we don't know how this is going to play out and so trying to find that balance between figuring out What people can do How they can protect themselves. And and what Could actually happen going forward. It's just a really huge challenge for us and of course like everything it becomes a political story and a partisan story and I think we'll probably see a little bit of that when we interview our first guest match slap the chairman of the American Conservative Union who organized the CPAC conference. But it's already having a significant impact on the campaign trail. Oh absolutely I for one thing I mean the the meltdown of the market is pretty is something that touches a lot of people. Everyone who checks their 401k's occasionally as now Prepared for a complete disintegration of their savings and needless to say the political impact of that Trump gets it You know half. His campaign strategy was a booming economy and a booming stock market. You take that away and You've transformed the dynamics of this presidential race and that is in bad by the way is why this president seems to be doing his best to down. Play the severity of this of this crisis. Because he knows what impact it will have on on the markets And you know he there is a president does have a responsibility to calm the American people. But you have to do so with accurate information And he is not really done that you know talking about how everyone can be tested when a tiny tiny percentage of America of Americans who've contract the virus or believe. They may have have been tested. Suggesting that you know people will be going to work even if they have the virus Which is not something that people should be doing. He was pretty imprecise with his language and fairly ostentatiously shaking people's hands when he When he greets them on getting off of Air Force One which is something that. I'm not sure he ought to be doing well. Look let's try to get some accurate information from match. Lap who is at Was at Ground Zero at the CPAC conference. He was presiding. And let's see what we can find out from him. We now have with US match lap. The Chairman of the American Conservative Union the sponsor of the CPAC conference match lap. Welcome back to skulduggery. Hey great to be with you both so I guess my first question to starting out as having been somebody who is exposed to the CPAC attendee. Who was infected with Corona virus? How you feeling I'm fine. I have no symptoms. My wife has no symptoms. My children have no symptoms my eighty year. Old Mother has no symptoms my eighty three year old father in law and his in in. My mother-in-law had no symptoms We had other extended family at CPAC. None of them have symptoms in fact if you look at the whole ten thousand people that assembled during the course of CPAC WE HAVE NO NEW CORONA CASES. And that's a pretty amazing thing considering we had one infected person that showed up at the conference with the virus. And you're in a pretty large you know hotel with a lot of people it demonstrates to me that even if some more people get sick it's it's more it's more difficult virus to contract than I had thought Beginning of this but just to be clear that when you found out that you had been exposed to this person you made the decision to self quarantine. I'm not really using that term What I did is as soon as I was informed. And we started figuring out you know. The veracity of the situation was able to get to talk to the patient I did. I put myself in my house and my family did too and we practiced separation and distance from other people. So essentially we've been staying in our house so just tell us. I think this is important for people across the country who are thinking about this who realized that there is the potential that they could be exposed to someone with the virus. Tell us what the process was like. When did you learn that you had contact with this person or that person had the virus? What did you do? How did you gather the information that you needed to ultimately make the decision that you made? And what did you learn? From this process that would be useful to others. Who might be in the same situation that you're in? Those are all good questions so let me start with. I think my most important lesson after dealing with this for several days. Now the thing is is your symptoms. Don't be so worried that you might have been exposed because my guest is at this point in the in the expansion of this virus that almost everybody's been exposed. You know so this idea that you know that you could have been exposed because somebody where you were has tested positive. I can understand why that rings alarm bells in your mind but we should all be operating as if there's a chance we can be exposed where we've been exposed so that's why the CDC and others are saying you know. Wash your hands constantly. So when the President Vice President words CPAC I mean it was scrubbed dub dub constantly lots of pure al. Everyone's taking a lot of precautions. Rob O'Brian was at CPAC every couple of minutes. One of his assistant squares hands with Cheryl. This is I know it seems like a basic step but those are the types of things we can. Do you know you don't have to give everybody a French. Kiss when you see him you can say hello. Wave your hands. You could do the fist-bump do you can knock elbows. There's other ways and those aren't foolproof ways. Either I understand but there are precautions. You can take in so I think the one thing we have to be careful of is after CPAC And just one person. Having the virus a lot of people in our area started taking they had to shut down all the schools. You have to shut down all the neighborhoods you have to shutdown other places where people congregate and actually. If we all quarantined in our houses it would be a good way to not spread the virus. That's true but in a free society. That's a difficult thing to get everyone to do. So what we need to do is once you know you have the symptoms which starts with a fever. The state of Maryland has said. Check your temperature twice a day if you're worried if you have a fever spike then call your doctor then start the process of getting healthcare that you need so mad. I just wanted to drill down on the time line here. The CPAC conference was February. Twenty six through February twenty ninth. You said everybody was doing rubber. Dub DUB pure Every minute constantly did you know in to hand. Sanitizer stations like I the hotel in the state of Maryland of credit they. They took a lot of precautions as we got into CPAC Matt. Did you know in real time during the conference that one of your attendees was infected with the virus? No no I didn't know until CPAC ended on the twenty nine Saturday as you know when the president was done so I don't know what time that was at five o'clock ish or something like that and I wasn't notified about the problem until the following Saturday a week later and you notify notified by whom and what were you told. I talked to the patients brother. Who is someone that I know? Because of past CPAC experiences and He told me about the positive test and that had had been verified by the CDC. And then I started to have interactions with the Federal Government as well. And you know I just had to learn quickly on the steps that need to be taken in the first step that we thought was very important was to take what is private medical information in make as much as possible as was appropriate so we immediately started working on how we tell everybody who was there that they could have been potentially contact with. Somebody was corona. So how do you do that? I mean you email you have. Everyone's email you emailed everybody who attended all ten thousand people who attended the CONDO. I'm going to be honest with you. Guys they just been a whirlwind for four days. I mean I I am. I'm not trying to over-dramaticised size what I've had to do but it has been. It has been very intensive work so I might have some details. That are That are not going to be easily recalled. Yes we have been emailing and talking to the ten thousand person CPAC Community Multiple Times. I you know my call. My phone has not stopped ringing from people with basic questions. Ten days that are concerned members the media who were there so we immediately informed to see that community and on a. I believe exactly the same time. Actually I do remember this part. We pressed to go twice. One was informing all the CPAC community. And then also sending out a tweet letting folks know that We learned this fact so you can imagine you know you guys know busy. Pack is we. We are exhausted at the end of CPAC and we kind of thought. Wow that was one for the record. Books closed book on it. Even though there's a lot of follow up to do and it was quite a shock to learn..
"cpac" Discussed on Verdict with Ted Cruz
"So much coming on for having me. Well Low thank. You also honored to be on the number one. Podcast stop and go on. Go on cast. I mean who knew well? We're pleased to have you here and actually before we even get into the RNC stuff which is now what you're running on the national level. I WanNa get specific about a past job that you had. You ran the Michigan. Republican Party Michigan. A very very important state in two thousand sixteen and twenty twenty. Yeah Michigan absolutely and Senator Cruz. You're right on president. Trump spoke to the working men and women in Michigan and transformed our state and brought new voters into our coalition and one specific county. That flipped Michigan was McCone county which has gone Democrat for decades and President. Trump came over and over again. Everybody said don't come to Michigan. Michigan's a non winnable state. It's a flyover state. Republicans haven't won there for thirty years. I kept saying to candidate trump. Please come to Michigan. Please come over and over again why I was looking at the numbers. We had the data. We were knocking doors. We were talking to voters and we saw these forgotten. Men and women really felt like Washington had left them behind. It had become this redistributionist coastal elite party of the Left. That forgot the middle of the country. And you're seeing that even more. The Democrats want to get rid of the Electoral College. Guess what that means. They won't come to Michigan ever again. That's right and so the president resonated. What's interesting about Michigan on election night? That's often overlooked is Michigan was called for Hillary Clinton by the Detroit. Free Press on election. There was wishful thinking because they had so undervalued the voters mccollum and the shift and president trump outperformed Mitt Romney sixteen percent in that county. We want it. And that's why we have Michigan and part of the reason. President trump is our president. So Rana let's talk as a practical matter if you're a steelworker worker in Ohio. If you're an auto worker in Michigan if you are one of the men and women who form the backbone of the middle class for a century America what does a radical democratic agenda a green new deal of Bernie Sanders? What does that mean for you? Well let's just kill the car industry altogether. Let's get rid of Paul. Let's kill your jobs. Let's take away your healthcare that you negotiated. That's what the Democrat Party means to you and by the way all that hard work you're doing and all those taxes you're paying you're going to pay for a bunch of kids to get medieval history college degrees and being college for six or seven years instead of what he had in your health centers might like that but it is frightening for them and the other thing that the president's done that's resonated so much is the trade deals he came to Michigan and said Nafta didn't work for you. We need to renegotiate and he took on China your leader and people. Now now we have a president who fights for that. You're saying this is a policy shift to it's not just using nicer words to flatter new voters it's an actual shift in priorities and a shift in policy absolutely and now results like you said the people who've come up food stamps. That's food stamps. That's so personal. We talk about numbers a lot as a party. Think about what that means for family. The dignity of a family to find a working wage to be able to afford Things like groceries college tuition gas to be able to set a new course for your family and that Pat. That's what America's about and that's what the Republican Party stands for and that's why we're doing so well with this president. Let me give you an amazing stat last week. I was down in Laredo. Texas was del Rio also meeting with the leadership of Laredo. This is down South Texas right right on right on the Rio Grande Valley Right just north of there and the mayor told me in the last few years. The median income and Laredo. Texas has gone from thirty nine thousand dollars a year to forty six thousand. It's a pretty big raise. Now you WANNA talk about making a real difference which by the way that the power brokers of the Democratic Party thinks. That doesn't matter. Let me tell you six thousand dollars. A year in a single MOMS pockets and a working families puck pockets looked at. That's a carnot. That might be to car notes. That's braces for your daughter. That's maybe summer camp for your son. That is the money to to take a family vacation. Maybe taking a family vacation in five years and that extra money gives you the ability to go. Go to Disneyworld with your kids. That is what this fight is all about. And you look at where the two parties are going. We have ron mentioned trade. Both parties were afraid to take on China and I will say president trump has shown in current taking on China and his opening up markets. I sat down this week with Texas cotton farmers who are so excited about opening up the Chinese market and being able to sell more cotton there. That is good for American farmers. Ranchers workers manufacturers across the country. Here's an amazing step. The last three years twelve thousand new factories in the United States of America Obama said it would take a magic wand to bring manufacturing jobs back to America in the last three years we have brought five hundred thousand manufacturing jobs back to the United States. Senator this is all too optimistic you conservatives. We need to be skeptical so I want to know a big aspect of this show and something. We love so much. That's why we love coming. Here is speaking to the audience and hearing their questions so in a few moments before we go. I want to know how the Democrats are GonNa take all that away from us. There is a question from Barron came in on twitter questions and trump. I might be actually the thing to watch your podcast. The question is is the popular vote. Compact states are going to go with the popular vote and give away their electoral votes. Is the popular vote. Compact a violation of Article One section ten center so probably but it is an open question constitutionally so this is a question that is going to be litigated. You're seeing states. Virginia was the latest one that voted to give their electoral votes. To whoever wins the national popular vote which means if you're a citizen of the Commonwealth of Virginia? Your vote doesn't matter anymore right. You're going to vote for whoever California New York vote for I mean. It's a bizarre. It's difficult to understand why that makes sense. Virginia's there is one reason if you do that. You could ensure that people won't campaign in your state and keeping politicians from descending on your state. There is a public good to that. So I guess to empathize with them chairwoman. Do you have thoughts on this? I absolutely do I think. It is devastating for our country to get rid of the electoral vote. This is what the founders intended for every state to have representation and just stay tuned because the RNC is not going to let this go and there's something coming. Yeah there's a preview of things to come let me just say I have an an intention to be the most litigious charon history. I think this is I think. What Democrats have done systematically to take away our rights to to rig the election system and this to take away our votes our electoral college votes and have California and New York to dictate who the next president. United States is going to be something. We have to fight for the Republican Party. Why the Democrats are doing this. The Democrats are trying to do this because they're scared of blue collar voters absolutely. They're scared of Michigan. They're scared of Wisconsin. They're scared of Pennsylvania. They're scared of Ohio. They're scared of Iowa. They don't think they can get those blue collar. Voters back look. They're campaigning on eliminating these guys job. So their approach instead is let's just hope California carriers this over. That's that's not the way our constitutional democracy were. That's right and I hope you are the most litigious chair. Gop history because the courts are looking pretty good right now. So under ninety two new judges time to thank you Chad and thank you Mr President for paving the way Michael the RNC is one of the few plaintiffs that would clearly have standing to challenge this ridiculous national popular vote so that we may have made some news here today. That's that's right because you have to have standing to bring this and the RNC clearly would be disadvantaged here before we go. We just have a minute or so left. This question. That came in really tickled me and since you are a party chair. I thought you'd be very good to answer it from Tonka Teddy Bear. That's twitter great name. Is it possible that the DNC is not going to Bernie and our writing off this election for two reasons? They're under too much scrutiny. Rig the primary but don't have a viable candidate and to they'll blame the loss on Bernie and distance themselves from the Socialists. I can I just say how much I love Tom. Perez and what a great job he's doing as DNC chair. I hope he stays there more morning. I'm running the campaign for him to stay there forever. I mean they're bankrupt. I'm not GonNa Brag but we did raise twenty seven million in January while we broke a record to elect this president and the Democrats have a system. You know it's funny that they're against the electoral college but they're creating the same system in their nominating process. These super delegates. Get to comment and take away the popular vote. And that's what they're trying to set up for Bernie. I don't know how they can do it without creating a civil war in their party. Boy Isn't it fun to watch? Ron I gotta ask so you. State party chair. In Michigan the Iowa Democratic Party. Yes yeah what a crap show a simple question? How hard is it to count the Dan votes seriously? Honestly I almost called a lifeline and said. Can we come help you? And by the way literally standing in a gymnasium but this is it's not a complicated APP. It's called an advocate. One to senator the reason the reason they don't want to count the votes off mini-van history when we go back to the reason they don't want to count the votes is because they don't like the answer that they're going to get through in November. We've got to go here at CPAC. Chairwoman Thank You. So much for being here senator as always for being here. I'm Michael Knowles this verdict Ted booth..
"cpac" Discussed on Verdict with Ted Cruz
"Welcome to verdict with Ted Cruz. I'm Michael Knowles. We are live at CPAC senator. I feel like we're pretty much roommates. At this point there's a lot of truth to that This is number one. This is CPAC. This is the largest conservative gathering in the world. Yes you have conservatives you have libertarians. You have bloggers. You have cowboys. You have young people you have. Lovers of liberty gathered all descending on Washington and terrifying the Washington bureaucracy. And you know this is. This is a pretty good time to be here at CPAC. We have got record low on employment record win. I think we've got one hundred eighty seven judges on the courts. Now well actually not one hundred eighty seven. We've now confirmed one hundred ninety two hundred ninety two. I stand corrected. This is pretty twitter right after the impeachment trial which I will note. The Senate rightly acquitted. The president of these ridiculous articles of impeachment right after the Senate acquittal. I saw someone on twitter that said as revenge. The Senate should immediately confirm a judge. I responded and said Nope. We're GONNA confirm five. You're doing five and that's what we did so things are looking really really good. What I WANNA know is how did this happen? Well let's take this and break it into different pieces. Okay first of all verdict. What is this well as a lot of y'all know a month ago we launched this pot? Podcast verdict with Ted. Cruz launched on the first day of the impeachment trial. The very first night each night I went jumped in a truck headed down to the studio and we would record at midnight one two in the morning whenever it happened. We'd record that night. It went from Zero non-existent to skyrocketing and becoming the number one ranked podcast in the world. We've had now the date over four and a half million downloads. And the way we're doing it. We're responding to breaking news so Michael talked about us being roommates. The reason for that. This is the third verdict podcast that we ever recorded in the last twenty four hours. This is I was not supposed to see the senator until today I was flying into Washington. Nice leisurely night. He calls he says no Michael. I'm really pissed off about something right now. We're going to record a podcast tonight. Get to the studio and I'll tell you then what tomorrow's podcast is going to be. How many of Y'all are familiar with Bernie Sanders Kissing up to Fidel Castro and the Communist in Cuba. Well I gotta say that really pissed me off and I take it pretty personally so what we did. I called my aunt my Sonia who was imprisoned and tortured in Cuba by Fidel Castro's goons and my Sonia got on a plane and flew to DC and we sat down and had her tell us about what Cuban communism is all about. When it's really like and I have to Brag for a moment about the senator because not only did it become the number one podcast or in the world. He also became the number one booking producer. We've got another guest coming up. We shot another show because you happened to have lunch with a guy who was in the United States and other Rodham. Through next week it will be a big big show on a totally different topic. Yes but let's get to the topic of this show right now. How this all happened. The most fundamental political shift that has happened in the last decade. Is that the two parties have switched places. Everything you've been told about. Politics is wrong and all of us grew up being told. Republicans are the Party of the rich and Democrats are the Party of the working class in the last decade those to switch today. The Democrats are the Party of the rich today. The Democrats are the party of Hollywood celebrities and Silicon Valley Billionaires and Wall Street. Titans they sip their law as and they look down on working class. Americans and on the other hand working men and women the working men and women here union members blue-collar Union members used to form the heart of the Democratic FDR Democrats who became Reagan Democrats. And Right now today. They're trump democratic. Senator I missed the Reagan era was not alive for that and so for my whole life the GOP which I always loved the GOP was kind of a really bad guy. It was called the Soviet Union. We beat them freed. The world liberty prevents spoiled the ending. Now I can't even read the history book and by the way we tore down this wall. You know for my whole life. The DEM's have been the party of the working man. I WanNa know nuts and bolts. How did we end up where we are today? So under the Obama Presidency. The Democrats made a decision. That has generational consequences. They chose between what had been historically favored children to the Democratic Party. They chose between California environmentalists billion years and Blue Collar Union members and their jobs and Barack Obama and Bernie Sanders. Hilary Clinton. They all decided to heck with the workers. Write them off. We don't care about the jobs. We're the party of rich coastal elites that has prompted an historic realignment. And I gotTa tell you right now. We're seeing blue collar workers. If you care about jobs if you have calluses on your head. We're now the party. The Republican Party of truck drivers and steel workers oil workers and farmers and ranchers and cops and firefighters waiters and waitresses and everyone gets out and works for a living. That's the Republican Party and the Democratic Party. Says you silly little people you deplorables? You don't need jobs you know. It's not just happening in the United States either. We're seeing this happened. Throughout the West we saw with brexit receiving it happened throughout Europe. There seems to be a rising up of people who say maybe I wasn't a conservative before but now that there's a left left wing party that's taking away. My national borders taking away my right to make my own laws taking away my jobs. You're seeing this major coalition realignment. How many of. Y'All watch the State of the Union address. By far the best speech president trump has ever given. He went through the incredible victories. Were having but let me highlight one in particular that I think because we saw contrast is he talked about record. Low unemployment the lowest unemployment for African Americans in history the lowest unemployment for Hispanics in history. The Democrats sat with their arms crossed angry refusing to applaud. But that wasn't the worst of it. There was a moment where he talked about in the last three years seven million Americans have come off of food stamps and not only the Democrats not applaud. A number of congressional Democrats hissed. That sums up where we are. Listened the message of the Democrats. If you're a single mom if you're dependent on the government for for welfare dependent on the government for food their messages stay dependent. They don't want you getting out of that trap of dependency and I'll tell you look. I'm from Houston right now today in my hometown of Houston. There is a single mom who three years ago needed the federal government to help feed her family the last three years. She's got the job tonight. She's going to come home. She's GonNa stick the keys in the door of her apartment going to open the door carrying a bag of groceries. She's going to set those groceries on the kitchen table and our kids are GonNa look at her with a newfound respect. She has the dignity of work the self respect of knowing. She's providing for her family and her kids who have a level of hope excitement. Seven million lives transformed. You know that connects. I think I think that that sort of message connects a lot better with the American people than fifty seven genders. And we need to steal. Everybody's property I don't think that's as persuasive a message. It Republican it is. The divide is so stark. If you're a working man if you're a working woman. The Democratic Party right now is not fighting for jobs. And here's the key going forward. The Republican Party is and if we want to win going forward. We need to be the blue-collar gop if we are the party of jobs we are the Party of the future. Well I know who can help make the party the way that we want to see it and that would be the chairwoman of the Republican Party. So let's bring her out. Give us a little vision. Answer some questions Chairwoman Rana mcdaniel..
"cpac" Discussed on Lovett or Leave It
"So CPAC is bad. And I say that if somebody was covered CPAC for many years, but I also think covering CPAC is actually kind of bad, and I say that someone who covered CPAC for years, it's lazy number one. Like, it's right across from Washington DC, so reporters go and all that to do is like fucking sit in a ballroom type. It's the easiest gig in the world say this as someone who's done it before you did it for crooked media last. You actually see what I was going to say is the real stories at CPAC or the attendees, which is what I did for crooked media. Pretty great the people who speak there, you could just turn on TV. And like watch them the people that go there. They are going there to learn dirty tricks. They're going there to learn new fascist techniques. They're going there to learn new ways to implement bigotry. I mean, I'm not kidding. This is like they say that the states are the laboratories a democracy there. Also, the laboratories of. Fascism, especially in state houses that used to be run by let's say Scott Walker where did they learn that ship? They learned it at CPAC. And I also think that it's Lisi reporters to cover CPAC because it's a bunch of fucking white people. And I say this as a white person who's covered CPAC, but I think in general, this is a fault of mainstream media. Mainstream media is really good at covering people. Who are who are like doing the racism? They are terrible at covering people who are experiencing the racism. More of that. Let's spend it again. This'll be the last one it has landed on periods versus exclamation points. We have a societal problem. Okay. And the problem is all of us have caught onto the busy. I don't even put punctuation at the end of my sentences. Give me a break. All right. So that's that's option. Guess there's really three options. So there's no punctuation option. We're like, I'm so busy. See there. No end. See you there. Forever. Then there's see you there period. Are you mad? Like was I annoy ING you did this conversation. Take too much of your precious time. And then there's see there. I'm so excited. We need something halfway between the period and the exclamation point. We need it is legitimate problem. And I don't know what it should be. But the thing that's happened. Now is don't say semi colon. Shame on you balcony. That's the first thing. I heard from you, and it was garbage. Let's end on a high note. There was a story today. A study came out from like Zurich or somewhere where they still fun science which is good because we need more of it that planting one point two trillion trees could cancel out a decade of carbon dioxide emissions. Which is cool. There are currently three trillion trees on earth. They just counted. And in fairness, it took a long time to plant them all a really long time. But all we need to do is plan. One point two trillion trees, and we could cancel out a decade's worth of climate change. That's pretty cool. And we should try. I think it is. It's a huge number of trees. But they measured out the land of all the space where there could be trees, and they're like, we can get it done. And listen, they're seven billion people on earth. All right. Let's say a billion of them each plant three trees day. Knock the shit out in a year. Anybody you're studying I use to study math. But then I ate edibles for a year. Okay. So each of you should plan three trees. And if you all do it and another billion people do it every day for a year. That's a trillion trees. I'm pretty sure it's gonna take a lot of maintenance in the forest to keep that up though. Yeah. And it's our show. I wanna thank on Abry. Cox akilah Lieutenant governor Mandela bars Nancy Pelosi as always thanks have a great night.
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"And he if he hit the baseball's life went one way didn't it the baseball's life goes another way that's you that's you and squarespace one direction of your life you make a website you get to drive google with younger voters we struggled with voters in communities of color and they always say well how do we get young people to vote community color vote he's probably just go talk to them and for some older candidate in the general sincerely for like a lot of people listening one of the hardest things to understand about twenty six again if only run against Donald Trump we have to promote our positive vision we have to talk about our plan to make America a better place make every state across whether it's access to healthcare where there is making sure that we're doing the best we can to protect the environment to make sure that we're investing in renewable energy as we should to make good paying jobs priority you know we have to talk about our plan to make that happen and I think that that is the playbook that we use here Wisconsin and in two thousand eighteen other couple of other states in the mid west to Michigan as well and that is what we have to do to defeat Donald Trump to talk about our values league with those values and be bold don't be afraid we can't just we can't run soft campaigns where we're afraid to talk about the real issues where we're afraid to talk about mass incarceration or we're afraid to about immigration reform. We have to talk about we have to put in front and center so let's talk about that we do have a dozen candidates in the race already biden and Beto are expected to jump in we have some candidates Warren and Bernie running on the left one's like Kluber Shar running on the comb as a fork platform and I'm trying to put that idea out there on the left hand part yeah left hand part if you will sure indies for climate change Kluber shot is for bringing fucking briefing book in on what is what's on your mind right now as you're looking at this expensive field I'm taking with this because of the large pool of candidates as a benefit and not a obstacle and I think that's true I mean also if you look at the resume of the candidates we have running versus the resumes of the candidates that ran in the Republican primary I mean remember Carly Fiorina like thought she could be president which it turns out actually I mean who knows you know I'm GonNa vote for whoever wins the nomination and I feel good about that I mean that's actually a relief timmy and if we can kind of care see that spirit I don't I've talked to a ton of people who feel like oh it's GonNa be so bruising Oh it's going to be so bad it's going to be better I think you went through a bitter and bruising primary and it turned out okay actually well one did one didn't we're fifty five hundred which is good for baseball this is my understanding prior to people actually think is probably as worse than a bitter and bruising primary again I don't think it has to be bitter and bruising I'm actually gonna ban those words now like I think that what we have is of candidates who are also finally debating real progressive ideals we're not having unless she middle we're talking about climate change we're talking about women's rights and women's reproductive rights we're talking about sexual assault we're talking about I like these are things that I am old enough to remember thinking that I was a fucking dreamer for for thinking we could get nationalize healthcare some point I've always told people that I feel like my politics are rooting for the cubs. I'm not pandering because because I never thought they could win I never thought like the stuff that I believed in was going to get to be the top level discussion you know I thought that I was going to be out here being like go Democrats but also cups you know and now like these these real progressive ideas have an audience and we have people like again talk my dad today like I don't like capitalism and I feel like I can say that now I don't like capitalism difference.
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"Portland redistricting is done in twenty twenty one that will jeopardize the congressional map that will jeopardize the state legislative map so everybody here is do their part to elect Lisa Neubauer to be talking in my pants the whole time great you ask I am what's good all right let's get into it what a week tonight we're at the very start of these Democratic primaries and obviously a lot of people's minds I wanted to step back and talk about how we're feeling at the very start of this content I so on the one hand donald trump is an historically unpopular president who's main legislative accomplishment is a tax cut for corporations and billionaires that's pretty well despise he was just handed a massive electoral defeat in the midterms his former campaign manager lawyer national security advisers among several others going to jail he's under multiple federal state and congressional investigations he's already been implicated in several felonies hand tragic most of all he did lose Ann Coulter on the other hand since one thousand nine hundred only five presidents have lost their reelection fight every other who's been willing and able one their reelection trump will be backed by the Murdoch's massive propaganda apparatus and untold hundreds of millions of ads ants by wealthy backers he knows how to our nominee down and he knows the media will go along with it and he knows his path to reelection runs through division and fear and dragging his opponents with him to the bottom of the Poles but I think there's also a deeper worry that goes beyond data a sense among Democrats that we just don't trust ourselves to get this right that trump winning is crisis but also a crisis of confidence so how do we navigate the most important primary in our lives when we don't trust ourselves to read the map and when Democrats will face not two or three or four but ten or more possible directions Mr Lieutenant Governor yes I want to start with you I've made jokes in the past about Hillary not campaigning here and it's a little trite what's the difference between Hillary Clinton and the Miami Dolphins hillary can lose without ever coming to green bay there's a question coming so you just won an historic victory for the second African American to be elected statewide we won the governorship and we wanted despite efforts vote suppression despite years of Republicans able to dominate in this state what did you learn in achieving this victory and what did it tell you about how we should be thinking about this primary yeah so let me let me start at the primary by saying I am now Ali fan of larger primaries because it allows for more seriously there were upwards of fifteen people in the Democratic primary for governor here there were ten people on the ballot that allow more people to get across the state at one time spreading the message and showing governor Walker former governor Walker's vulnerabilities and so the same can be said when there's so much energy so many people who are stepping up to run for president it says something about how we can unpopular the president is right now and like I've always said we've so have larger primary allows that lots of the happen and again it's all about communication just being able to hone your message been able to sharpen your message especially in a debate with so many people you have to work that much harder to stand out it will in is actually and I mean is that what happened in Wisconsin because it wasn't an obvious mistake in the sense that a lot of people took Wisconsin for granted historically that's a problem yeah mid West the grant what have you learned we went from an election in which Wisconsin played this pivotal role in electing Donald Trump to an election which wisconsin came out to the polls and rebuked the kind politics that donald trump offers like what changed here what did you take from this election that makes you feel good about the next campaign so as a couple of things one I'll say is that we organized we got out there where we needed to be the second of all the way we it was yes it was a rebuke oh donald trump but it was also having been through eight long years or Scott Walker our campaign was not just against Walker and so in twenty twenty the campaign just can't be against Donald Trump because he will win.
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"Hello fan the beautiful badgers badgers there's mall they're ferocious they don't take any shit from anybody and in Wisconsin for less than twenty four hours I have see that kind of someone shouted lucky you and that kind of self deprecation is what you're famous for lucky you I have eaten Braatz I had cheese skirts at one hundred percent of my meals I feel I feel great I have discovered something what I've discovered is that knief this gay Jewish coastal elites exterior is the digestive attract of a mid western Obama trump voter you're applauding that because speaking of Obama Trump voters apology not accepted face what you did you have given us Paul Ryan you have given US Scott Walker hands and you have given US Donald Trump to of your main exports are dairy and as else let's talk about Scott Walker so we enact ten attacking states unions and under minding the rights of working people he cuts education by billions he fights to privatize the public schools and universities he forces cuts to teachers salaries and this is something I find and who is right we hate that here he tried to change the mission of the University of Wisconsin from improving the human condition Searching for truth to meeting the State's workforce needs I just but for me you interchangeable cogs for me you meazza of product Vdi can sack meet the State's workforce needs how grant how nice that would be for all of you to meet the states workforce needs why did you come to the University of Wisconsin well I thought a lot about it and I was very interested in meeting the State's workforce leads what are you majoring in killing the part of myself that feels also under your former Governor Wisconsin joined the lawsuit against the rejected Medicaid money does he cared more about making a case running for president than he did about the state and not sucks because he was so bad at running for President and that people said he should drop out to make room for fucking jam people looked at Jeb Bush and Scott Walker and they said we need the One with charisma why are you applauding he presented all of you sorry thank you only one of you said sorry so not only is he stripping the government for parts and undermining workers not only is he trying to privatize institutions he's trying to undermined democracy itself Walker also passes a draconian voter ID law they redraw the district lines to make the elections less Pettit undermine election oversight after losing despite what the voters in this state wanted they pass a bill to enshrine their politics and their policies forever despite what the voters in Wisconsin had to say and I know that that lawsuits continuing and it's very exciting because it's fucking bullshit that is the experiment that Scott Walker ran in the state and it's the experiment Donald Trump is running right now to strip the government for parts to crush working people to suppress oats and campaign on division and fear to win and they killed your train Scott Walker killed the train that would have fucked why do conservatives turn on trains Ayn rand loved trains that book was about trains when did sharing a compartment with other people become liberal they want to be alone in their cars that's conservative now riding on a bus what are you some kind of liberal so that is the conservative experiment that you guys rebuked here Johnson but the fight continues there is a big fight in Wisconsin a judicial race here in April how many of you guys have been following them we need to get Lisa neubauer elected to the Wisconsin Supreme Court losing the seat would guarantee a conservative majority on the states you can donate you can make calls you can write letters from anywhere in the country and you can knock on doors if you live in Wisconsin or nearby go swing left dot com slash Wisconsin to learn more and get involved the next two years Wisconsin is gonNA play such a big role not only what happens here what happens in national politics listen all right let's just be honest we're caught a bit flat footed by what happened here in twenty sixteen I feel like everyone here was pretty surprised when they woke up let's admit it knocked on a couple more fuck indoors we'll get there don't worry about it the if you think I'm GonNa come to Wisconsin and not make a bunch of jokes but Hillary Clinton forgot that this was a state you are incorrect let's listen a right can't make the same mistakes in twenty twenty that we made Two thousand sixteen you guys have won a battle here by electing a new governor a new lieutenant governor you can help in that seat on the Supreme Court and you can do your part to organize in the next two years because listen all right we wake up on that Wednesday November twenty twenty and Wiscon- in shits the bed again buckle up you'll never see me again and Tommy John May WanNa come but I won't let us that'll be tough for me because you can't get cheese Kurds outside of Wisconsin which by the way doesn't make any sense they're delicious you're killing yourselves by only selling here so you guys are GonNa do your part to win that Supreme Court seat all right let's start the show we've got a fantastic show for you tonight I'm very excited about our panel about the gangs we're GONNA play and we've got a lot of very fun who's to discuss her work has appeared in the Washington Post esquire and rolling stone she's the host of crooked media's with friends like these blues welcome back to the show Omri Cox I'm good how are you I mean actually I know exactly how you are I heard a monologue great I know about your digestive track too much fair enough he is the currently tenant governor of the Great State of Wisconsin. Please welcome the that is avenue for those listening at home there was a I would call it a b plus under toasting the crowd with a pabst blue ribbon how are you sir I'm the last year was we one out of control already and finally she is writer Comedian Youtuber and she's a crooked contributor please welcome back Akilah Hughes hi Akilah John How are you I'm so good it is cold here though I don't have like cute sox like my whole outfits black and white but my socks are very loud so I'm going.
"cpac" Discussed on Chapo Trap House
"You guys missed it. There's a part where Matt was just sitting on the on the table this crash showing and one of them went some reporter. And I wanted to be like, yeah. This is Jake tapper problem with you how Jake Capper's conducting himself. So at one point they threatened to call security on us for standing in the media zone, very unprofessional. A but unprofessional yoda's problem with how I how I behaved CPAC as a reporter. I am a reporter. I am John from pod. Save america. One of those guys contact my boss. So the way that the CPAC speeches are it's all very tightly packed almost pretty quickly speech. Somebody comes on. There's like maybe two or three minutes with some audiovisual material in the next one starts, but of course, Trump was super late. Like, you always is. So there's like a half an hour where they just had to keep doing things they couldn't show the same three videos over the fucking ad for the God damn insurance company that they kept running. So they just ran in full a segment from CNN or match slap yells at Chris Cuomo and the audience is just yelling at the television. It was just a collective expression of what all the grandparents do at home just yelling at Chris Cuomo for having a liberal bias. We talk about match lap for a second. But talk about match. Let's talk about matchless slap. Maybe snatched lap is the head of CPAC. So he's Doug's exit or look at motherfucker. He's the guy who introduced Trump and. He just has this energy of like like a community theater director. Yeah. He's just like berating people back places. Everybody we show. It's funny because like the entire affect Haitian of every CPAC speakers like, oh, I'm what I'm what you hate the most. I'm a red meat eating straight white SIS male but match lab just gets up there. And it's like are you like a villain from dance? Mom. He's like it's step turn pivot tax cut prints. We're not saying he's gay was just like a very like. Yeah. Like a mean theater guy? He did that because he was leaving up for the meanest the meat. Yes. Donald trump. So yeah, it was so boring. Wait around there being yelled at by these fucking souls in the back. I'm really glad to be rude to them, by the way. I was very glad to be able to just do anything to make me feel differentiated them at one point during the Trump itself speech. I just hear one of them go under there as we're like howling in laughter at him. Just go under there. He's trying to lists. Some journalists laugh showing their by thing they were laughing to everyone was was fucking kill the Keith. He so many. They were all every we were laughing at the wrong parts, though. And they got annoyed at that. Okay. First of all, the music choices. I gotta talk about a little bit. I didn't even mention this. But like in the previous day's like again, this species are like ten fifteen minutes..
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"Yeah. Those are Good. good. So. Yeah. Again, another indication of what the crowded CPAC actually believes in. Yeah. Choose one or the other guys were hanging around with that Nicolas says the booger eating Nazi guy because we saw him later then they were near him. And they were all dressed in incredibly tight suits, the head one had a huge like Horlicks face. He kind of looked like that MAC to like look and motherfucker from night breed, and he was had a big fuck. Fucking a crucifix would. Yeah. Big wooden crucifix. He basically looked like Brazilian Pentecostal preacher like his name should have been Valencia Gobert or something. And he had very unappealing him and his his flunky is accosted molested Matt ni-. And then I was like, I'm peaking. Not appreciate and they they. You look like shit look at you tweeting fucking vaping while you're so unpleasant. They accused us of being unaesthetic man, aesthetic, non aesthetic men. They're like what you look like next. Good strong, conservative men. Yeah. That's what I saw there. I was just like, we're okay. I was like where your girlfriends they at CPAC Canada. And then just like I was like. Yeah. Whatever guys like get your lexin. This is fun for you. And then they said, we're unaesthetic men, and then the and then when I really lost the thread is and they accused us of supporting brutalism architecture. Yeah. Just like, dude. I don't know what the fuck your. I didn't wanna have that unpleasant. I went on to have that conversation. So I was just like my phone listening. And then he's like, yeah. You guys you think you like this stuff you brutal star conjecture. And I said look if I don't know what you're talking about. And he was like what come on? And I think kind of has been having like an argument with me and his head that I wasn't aware of. And he thought I would be on the other side of it if we ever met and since Fuzzy Bruce. architectural, and it's like the table like, buddy. I you are not we're not on the same wavelength, and it kind of deflated him and they left right Nazis or mad about I don't I don't really follow it either. Give very inscrutable beefs like women with short hair and like architecture. They just wanna point out that I was not there when you were costed. I'm sorry all owned. Tree was just like a procedurally generated fortune means to mid something. I wasn't there. I lied about going to best buy I actually had a bridge of spies moment where I became conservative for one hour. And that was the gave them on you that you guys like brutalism architecture, and we said shitty until that they bridge spied me back. Here's the one thing. They had was right? They're like, oh you fucking ball piece of shit..