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"courtney cronin" Discussed on Paul Allen

Paul Allen

01:38 min | 11 months ago

"courtney cronin" Discussed on Paul Allen

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"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

The Stephen A. Smith Show

12:29 min | 1 year ago

"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

"With Jarrett Stidham their draft choice this year from Auburn or award to try and get Tom Brady back. Maybe another year or two. And it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. But I I would just be hard pressed at the end of the day courtney. The Tom Brady and another uniform uniform. Besides the New England Patriots. It would definitely feel weird but weird things have happened with players trading spaces trading places on different different teams And some weird things happening in week sixteen which is not yet over. That was straight talk wireless everything for less only at Walmart now. Moving forward into the final game of the week sixteen slave the Minnesota Vikings playing host to the Green Bay packers here on Monday night in Minnesota a soda. The surging. Vikings are ten win. Team the packers right now are in the lead for the NFC title and while everybody's talking about the Vikings and Alvin Cook Hook and everything that could happen for this team and Kirk cousins rewriting the narrative of his career down the final two games of the season. The packers are peaking at the right time. Here's here's Joe Tests ESPN's Monday night. Football Golick and Wingo. This is the time of the year where we have to remind ourselves that teams. Don't stay the same about putting in yourself in position to play the most meaningful games on this weekend's hopefully you don't have to play meaningful game next weekend and then in the coming weeks and then you look at Seattle and you see how banged up. They are now going into the playoffs. And they're gonNA be playing a division championship type game next Sunday night and you have to always ask yourself. Who would you rather other be? You want health. You want momentum you want things clicking this time of the year now. Who would you rather be Mike? Because when we're talking about the quarterback play play Kirk. Cousins is having an incredible season this year putting up historic franchise best and also rewriting the narrative of his career with a career-best Turnover a touchdown reception ratio. Lack of turnovers Looks beyond comfortable in this offense so it seems like all the stops the vikings pulled Out this off season in changing what they were doing offensively building everything around cousins worked. And while the offense under Matt L- Aflou is is a new one for for for Aaron Rodgers. He's never had a run game like this or at least not in recent years It still feels like when it comes to play off time. One is proven one is not now you mentioned before the onate record for Kirk cousins on Monday night. Football while on the flip side of that Aaron Rodgers has won. His last five starts on Monday. Night if you're looking looking at this big picture wise and the quarterback you trust the most despite everything else who is it. Oh it's Aaron Rodgers. I don't think it's even close and you know if we could As you were asking earlier if we could borrow the best of both worlds I probably would take. I would definitely take green. Bay's offense I probably would take Minnesota's defense defense. But he asked me a question. Forty Arabs has been there done it and one of the things is really been impressive about him. This year is obviously Aaron. Jones has really emerged as has a better running back but they're getting contributions from Jamal Williams but in the passing game what I like about them in particular is not the household names because like Allen. Lazard Geronimo Automo- Alison Even Marquez. Vallas scaling you'll there. A supporting cast around Davonte diversity of their passing game really makes Green Bay heart to depend. Do they have enough though. I mean they spent so much money which they had to. They had to rebuild that defense. They had to rebuild their pass rush in certainly. That's played out but you you know the cause and effect here was that if they're gonNA spend money there they don't have as many resources they can allocate offensively can rogers. It feels to me like he's in a situation in similar to where Russell Wilson is now except Russell Wilson's a byproduct of injuries and a depleted roster whereas they didn't really have all those weapons to begin with entering two thousand thousand nine hundred nineteen in Green Bay. If the run game stays the way it is and is consistent and setting up play action those opportunities for Rodgers. Can he overcome come. Maybe the lack of talent that he had on you know compared to a two thousand ten team or twenty eleven team which you know obviously both were vastly different outcomes for the packers but they had incredibly incredibly talented rosters. Like can they do this can they. Can they truly get to where they want to go in the postseason without having the names that they've had in previous years I think so. Oh and again you know. We talked about this earlier. Courtney which is greatness to me ultimately in team sports is about how you impact others and Carson Wentz over. The last month has been great. He's impacted others. Because he's playing with the University of Houston's quarterback Greg Ward and my point is there's more than enough for him to win with right now green bay in Aaron Rodgers so he is an all time great and they argued production out of guys like the lazard. And the Allison's awesome so the world so I do think there's enough there now. Their defense in my opinion has struggled of late More noticeably than maybe people realize and because I think that's reduced used the margin for error for the Green Bay packer offense but I think they have more than enough weapons to score again. They have to really quality running backs again. Aaron Jones has really improved as a receiver and Jamaal Williams a little bit under the radar. But a very off the back as well. It's this evening Smith show on. ESPN radio the ESPN APP. Dan Sirius Xm Channel Eighty Courtney Cronin NFL nation reporter for the Minnesota Vikings he's Mike Tannenbaum former NFL GM and our ESPN front office insider. I got a ton of questions going into this week. I think my twitter feed might have crashed several times. Because it's all about is Alvin. Cook playing is is his backup. Stop going to play. What's going to happen beyond that if Alexander Madison can't go etc etc now we know that this offense was predicated on the run? That was a major focus for the vikings in this past off season. If you want kirk cousins to be at his best you need to have an offense that is predicated off outside zone. That has strong running game leading to play action opportunities etc CETERA. Now we know that Delvin Cook has been ruled out four Monday night. Football and Alexander Mattis. Madison's status is questionable. And I can tell you from what I saw last week. He did very very little on Saturday the day that he was quote Unquote Limited in practice. Meaning he just did more than he had done for the previous two weeks where he was d. n. p. he just about every single day. This is an interesting situation here because we talk about the depth that this team has not many teams. Mike as you know with the makeup makeup of rosters and a passing league have five running backs between four four running backs in a fullback on the roster so they were built to sustain these types of injuries But I'm curious. Do you see this as seamless transition as Minnesota's hoping to have I mean. Obviously you have a Mike Boone. who had fifty fifty seven fifty six yards rushing touchdowns against the chargers in week? Fifteen so he certainly is capable of it but to me. The Missing Element Without Delvin Cook is. You're not going to be able to sell play action that well and that's exactly what the packers did when they were out within. They've settled defensive lineman out wide week to to be able to take away the play. Action Game Yeah. No there's there's a lot there just to take you behind the scenes. A little bit is one of the things that coach ever would never admit publicly but the calculus is I want to have the best and healthiest team heading into the playoffs and obviously tonight is critical. You want every game you still have a chance to win the division. Obviously so you WanNa you Wanna do everything within reason but when you're dealing with things like ankle injuries Other sort of orthopedic issues. It's a real tough calculation to say all right is Alex Mass and sixty or seventy percent and if he plays or we're going to set him back and now he may miss a playoff game and those are really really hard discussions to have I. I've had him for twenty years and yet your doctor there. You got your head coach and you try to figure out like do we need to activate somebody else. Are we gonNA address them again. You have fifty fifty three players on the roster seven. Don't play and then if you dress them you know. That's one less spot. Is He gonNA play the whole game. It's it's really interesting. It gets really complicated complicate because at the end day Mike Zimmer wants to will. I have cook and mass in as close to one hundred percent for the playoffs. That's job number one and then within reason. Listen I WANNA make sure I get my best chance to win tonight. But if I'M GONNA put masks in at risk I rather go play with. Boom sock can be ideal but to have mass and healthy that that may be a choice that I need to make. And it's funny that we're not even talking about the fact that they have two thousand yard receivers on the roster obviously those stats coming out from last year. But we're forgetting Adam Phelan's defined digs are still in the mix here but as you mentioned with Green Bay's defense in kind of leveling off since we're at least they were in week two if we're basing it on the match ups of what happened the first time that these teams played in what happened this next time to me the match up here. That's going to be really interesting to see what they do. Gyro Alexander to try to make this offense as one dimensional as possible if you stick him on and Adam feeling and try to take him out of the game name. They're going to do whatever they can throw. Whatever they can on the other side of that define digs try to rile him up? Try to do whatever they can. So if you don't have your top two receiving options. How do the Vikings win this game on offense? Yeah no that's a really good question. I think you know again. You look at Kirk cousins. He say well he's been football. I turned that into a positive. Hey Kirk what a great opportunity. You're you'RE GONNA be down a number of weapons tonight and you're going to pay a lot of money you've got a three three year fully guaranteed contract. Nobody else has that. You have a chance to write whatever you want to write. The pen is in your hands. Tonight would incredible story. You can read on National Channel TV and Jarrah. Alexander is a great player but some of those other players on the back end Kevin King some they have struggled and there are opportunities for the Vikings to make plays against that packer. Secondary which candidly may be said that As much a month ago. But I think there's real opportunities and if I'm her cousins the thing about all the critics if we're sitting here tomorrow at the same time Courtney saying wow this first one on Monday night football wow they were undermanned. Who wound up playing? And if I'm kirk cousins I see tonight is a huge opportunity. And he's been asked about that stat for awhile now and it is the one that certainly bugs them and while he would love to get a win on Monday night. Night Football Mike. Zimmer even came to quarterbacks defense last week saying that this is not going to be a game. That's all on Kirk shoulders. If they lose it it's not going to be because of kirk cousins So certainly he's got the backing of his head coach whether he has the full backing of his front office remains to be seen. Because Kirk right now is in a situation where I feel like. He has more leverage As far as getting that extension and what that extension looks like going into the two thousand twenty season if you you know. This is a good time that I would love to get your take on this. If you're a front office if you're Rick Spielman and if you rob Brzezinski their Cap Guru are you looking at this saying we need to see him win a playoff game before we offer an extension or even bring one at the table. And certainly Kirk doesn't have to agree to it but You might not want to go into year three as a lame-duck quarterback or do you wait to see if he can get you to the postseason and if he can win a game there before determining this is my guy. This is our quarterback cornerback of the future our franchise quarterback because what he's done this season. He's put up historic numbers in Minnesota but at the end of the day. It doesn't translate to a playoff win. Does it matter yeah. I think it's a little bit more of the wait and see approach this from a standpoint of We talked about all these horror. Backs are going to be up. And I think because there's going to be such supply in the market. The demand may be a little bit less now. I know there's one more year ago but for what you've paid kirk cousins and again the historic nature of the three year guarantee. I feel like time's a little bit on their side because I just don't see another team stepping up and doing that again for him so if I was Minnesota I would probably proceed a little bit with caution but game coming up tonight on. ESPN Monday night. Football Minnesota Vikings playing host to the Green Bay packers coming up next the future of Jason Garrett and Dak Prescott..

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Stefon Diggs on trade rumors: “There's truth to all rumors”

NFL Live

09:02 min | 1 year ago

Stefon Diggs on trade rumors: “There's truth to all rumors”

"But we will start in Minnesota we we stefan digs and his current situation the vikings white out missed practice for undisclosed reasons yesterday and it led to speculation about his future with the Vikings today today dig said he has not requested a trade but did admit there is true to all the reverse. He said that he's unsure. His agent has talked to the Vikings and what has transpired can't sit up here like everything is everything is okay his obviously not but but I can't say at this point it just trying to work. Do I feel like there's no matter how you sit up. I won't be saved speaking on that off off. Everybody's known to be rethinking the next one that team guy always predicting but for myself. I never made it just about me. I've never been that kind of so my resume persona kind of speaks for itself. I've never been to got to kind of be off. Be like me me me and wanting to have success. I WANNA have team. Success is always what I've been pushing them always without push so my language was stated saying whether I'm giving many opportunities not not not a lot. Have you asked for trade if you haven't communicated anything more so the conversation has been about teen and China had success food ah I haven't spoke to them you gotTa talk to play Sunday. hopefully then you play. I like football. I want to be part of I want to the apart play football on Sundays on CBS practice today you anticipate house and I feel a little bit better as to Yeah Courtney Cronin joins us now from Minnesota. She was there when dig spoke and Courtney. You heard him say. There's there's truth to all those rumors. What's your take a what exactly he met. Wendy he kept repeating that phrase multiple times throughout his media the reliability this morning and I think that that's him not completely closing the door that we're all he did say when I asked him straight out dicky requested trade you want lots traded and he said I had not communicated that and then obviously you have to follow up about his agent. You didn't fully close the door saying that no. I wanted to be your completely like that. Is there some uproot that there might be some validity what we've been hearing me Hainan seeing that this has been something that's been brewing probably for a little bit of time now so. I think what you were. Each phrase wants to continue to say it while he did say walk this year and he's been here for five years. He loves everything about teammates. I think he's questioned what you have to bring his question about whether he's feel value. He does have a role in the offense but it is minutes role than it was US last year and obviously you've been obsolete. I come in the steam because that kind of brings things to a head to where we're at right now. Wondering are we've seen the end of the era. Is this the beginning of something that we should be more concerned with or just going to blow over eventually because feel there's fire. I'm Greg it courtney. Thank you yeah I think in this case. It's fair to say there is some fire that smokes coming from Joe Joe. I'll ask you first of all about attentional trade market for digs if he were to move on well. I spoke to a team last night that I know would specifically definitely be interested in step on just because they expressly told me that and then last night I think an inquiry was made in they came back and said that they were told that Stefan was not going to be on the market and I see we're hearing during that today in terms of other people following up on the reporting what we do know about stuff on digs at here's a career worst three catches per game and five targets per game and and even though he's coming off a career-best production with over a thousand receiving yards and nine touchdowns his production in the two years prior to this season. It's still been under Adam Adam feeling and you know he's working with the new offensive coordinator and Kevin Stefanski and prior to that obviously was Pat Shurmur. WHO's the head coach of the giant so I think talk. You're looking at a receiver who feels like he can do more. You might even feel like he's the best receiver on the team and he's right. He is not a Mimi Guy in terms terms of how he portrays himself publicly. I've covered him a lot of times. I was there for the Minnesota miracle of so many of his games and by comparison you would definitely not put him out there but off in that sense but just listening to his words and the fact that he did leave the door open with certain things that he said he is letting you know that he is frustrated in that also think that that it fits within the era of athletes right now this season and last season being more vocal about their situations taking more control of where they feel like they can best flourish and I'm getting the hint although I have not talked to him directly or his agent that he's trying to let people know that he feels like everything is not completely kosher dill. It's funny you say that Joe Joe and I think Steve Young. You made the point two weeks ago with the genie sort of being out of the bottle I this is another example of a player. I think trying to sort take some control of a situation a situation that from his perspective is not working the way he'd like it to work yeah. I think it's a direct reflection on the quarterback play that that's been in Minnesota. Obviously his diminished role isn't because of injury or lack of talent. It's because the quarterback isn't getting everybody the ball right. Now I think last ask year when you see how everyone was involved in Adam dealing was getting the football step on digs with everyone was happy. Everyone was performing. Everyone was getting the ball. There were schematically. There were in situations where both of these guys were making big plays and that's what you're used to seeing from the Vikings and I think this year those players just aren't there and there's plays aren't there for those plays aren't necessarily there for Stefan digs for any of those past catches right now because of the quarterback play and I don't know if that's schematics. I don't know if that's simply the quarterback but I think he's unhappy with how he's being utilized and he's taking things into his own hands and to his credit. I've known for some time as well. He's never ever been me guy. He's never been so. This isn't necessarily about putting himself before the team I think at some point he has to look at his career and where he wants to go trajectory wise and make a decision and listening to talk. You almost felt like he had a little bit of emotion coming out when saying I'm a team guy and I'm not a me guy and I'm just trying to put the team. I listen as a football player. I know you can you've experienced this. We only have a certain amount of years and we only have a certain amount of time that we can go out there and play the game so you don't WanNa feel like that. You're wasting a season and I think that's why a lot of guys once they realize look. There's no chance for us to get to the playoffs this year. There's no chance that we're GONNA win in this division this year and teams on the flip side of that. I understand okay yeah. This season is pretty much over so let's try and get some value in some of these guys that are good football players and that's why we're seeing that more this year than maybe in years past. I thought the most interesting thing that he said Real quick when you're asking me if he was going to practice US I don't know I hope so. That's that was the less you know that he has expressed something to the team and he's maybe worried about how they reacted to. How that's what I'm thinking yeah I mean he he clearly was not one hundred percent sure you're next and Steve Young joins US now Steve. We have talked about this before given our conversations and I'm GONNA assume zoom. This doesn't surprise you that we're seeing another example of someone stepping up and saying this isn't working for me no players who are going to continue to demand what's going to be interesting. Is there is is there going to be a market and I think the Jalen Ramsey and if this situation does go forward and these guys are able to get to new teams I I think the ice will break because there are a number I mean everybody in the League has had moments star player now this star players that can do this because they're they're not. GonNa risk career other. You know non star players are not going to risk their careers to demand a trade this cut and so the star players going to say. I know there's a better place for me. I know there's a quarterback it'll throw me the ball and others office coordinator that will take care of me and that's going to continue to grow and I think this is a this is really the really important time Wendy right now awesome because of Jalen Ramsey doesn't get moved and digs does not get moved and the kind of kind of chill this whole thing and can stop it then this market will not not be kind of a burgeoning market but if they start to be able to be moved then everyone the legal realize I can make my way out of here and I wanna be somebody somewhere else and to the to the point just I it was victor. Rodman raw made it but the average career is three point two years in the NFL players are very aware of it. If I'm going to be great I'm going to be great right now. Well there's no question is a pivotal point in the league. We'll see digs by the way signed a five-year seventy two million dollars extension last year the thirteenth highest paid receiver currently in the

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"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

The Bill Barnwell Show

03:16 min | 2 years ago

"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

"It doesn't make sense that even if you end up taking one of the players, which by the way, isn't the end of the world handyman's, if you got a, you know, a second France franchise pass rusher to put next Chandler Jones who can learn behind Terrell. Suggs. There are worse things in the world. And having a great pass rush by any means. But if you're the cardinals near the number one pick, it makes sense for you to try and drum up that interest in Cuyler Murray to try and say, okay, if you want to get this guy got to trade up to number one because we might take him number one. You know, I think that makes total sense. It's a really smart move. If that's what they're doing. I don't know what that is. Or is not. But I think that certainly, you know, it can be a little bit disruptive. Josh Rosen, of course. But it's well within the playbook in terms of how you would handle the first overall pick. If you had it. Oh, absolutely steep time has said, you know, basically since he started drafting for the cardinals do thirteen he he has talked about his love of the smokes. You know? He's over the years in post press conference you make jokes about. Oh, yeah. I told you this. But it was really just a whole time. Or, you know, even when it was here. They would the two of them were Joko it's smokescreen season that type of thing. So if you if you look back kind of put the pieces together, if not totally out of the realm possibility of this is one massive smokes thing, and we're all just buying into it. Just because we you know because everyone is in thrall decarla Murray. Dizzy great quarterback. Yes. If he wanted absolutely if he needed to run this offense and football games. No. I think before the cardinals biggest key will be fixing that defense, and I've been saying for a long time. Now, the defense is so easy to fix you guys. Like, Tim or Jones your Patrick and takes away half appealed immediately, you fix that other cornerback which apparently they're trying to do with. Robert offered that that's the other nine guys just pin ears back and go you have a lot of talent. I find one of those players in the NFL. He still has trouble grasping the defense. But he's very athletic to make place you they added DJ swearing Baker. Who's a pro bowler? There are a lot of good pieces on defense where if you can just you know, tweak it and get it back to what it was under Todd Bowles and James Becher with a top five top ten defense. Then I think you can work on the offense for year or two because such a great defense. Second win games for you. And let Josh Rosen develop which I think is what they should do. Now. Obviously, I'm not the gym here in you know, cooking's very feels comfortable with you know, bringing in Kyla Murray in kinda to meet this entire team. Then that's what they're gonna do. Of course. Yeah. I mean, it seems like he, you know, certainly involved, but it seems like if that's what Quicken's berry wants they're going to end up doing in terms of frozen. Is there d-? Do you feel a sense of urgency from the organization to make a trade? Now. Do you think they're comfortable having these two guys if they do draft Mary having them on the roster through the summer, and sort of reproaching this maybe a trade, they make you know in August when you might have got get injured. You have a guy who looks good in training camp. Sort of that Sam Bradford teddy Bridgewater trait ara- from from years past. I mean, it's hard to tell for color reasons..

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"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

The Bill Barnwell Show

03:34 min | 2 years ago

"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

"They had in thirteen fourteen and fifteen when Bruce Arians with here they went ten and eleven five thirteen three after three season. They went to the NFC championship game where they lost to the Carolina Panthers. But from that basically that loss on crime has really struggled with draft picks with free easing c decisions. I mean, he let guys like Tyronn Massey's I signed time and Matthew two huge deal. When he was coming off in EC L entry got another injury. And then they let him a couple of years later. He lacks Claes Campbell walk in the next year. Claire Campbell has be with fourteen sex for the Jacksonville Jaguars. So he made a lot of questionable decisions from two thousand the end of the two thousand fifteen season on and I think that if this organization they would've fired him because you had three consecutive seasons. Of seventy one eight and three and thirteen by anybody's standards. That's not good enough that you know to keep it GM. So I I would very surprising. He kept his job. I do know that Michael Bidwill the cargo president he kind of he embraces royalty and see prime is doing in relation for twenty. Something years grew up in from the team of the scout. Now these him. But I I don't know if this happens again, I don't know how how he keeps his job because we, you know, and then it turns into a holding holding situation of they get new GM doesn't GM want clippers coach. But this could just be, you know, a domino effect that could last year. Yeah, it doesn't like it could be a brutal cycle where it's just, you know, constantly just overturning things for the sake of overturning very similar situation to the Browns may be, you know, earlier over the last ten years or so before they kind of settled things over the last two seasons. Many look. These drafts. Yeah. Even going back through through twenty twelve or what was I was. Kinda fishery appointed his GM are thirteen distant excuse me. So two thousand thirteen year Old Trafford's not great Michael Floyd. Jamal Fleming were the first who picks Floyd, you know, had had the off field issues, but twenty thirteen Jonathan Cooper, Kevin Minter, the first he picks Cooper never developed never really became a favourite of Bruce Arians. Kevin Minter service linebacker, but someone who moved on came back. A guy who come back, but a guy who was basically just a, you know, he's a half reg- inside linebacker twenty two in the first two picks NB canon, Nickless Buchanan fell out of favor over the last year or so once they did bring in Wilkes. And of course, followed aeriens out of town. Twenty fifteen z Humphries, Marcus golden, golden hurt. They drafted David Johnson third round. But Humphries has never been healthy and never really been affected as tackle twenty sixteen Robert and Kenichi Brandon Williams and can DJ Gannon guy who's not developed and Bernie Williams who they had famously on the field in that patriots game against Jimmy Garoppolo and got burnt. And then they haven't really trust him to play cornerback ever since twenty seventeen Assan radical Buddha Baker. That's better promising at least to some extent and twenty eighteen Christian Kirk was very good. But the number one the ten pick was Josh Rosen. A guy who you know, they have major question marks about. And maybe it should maybe they shouldn't. But because of all that because I didn't hit on those picks. They went. Out and they had to spend a lot of money in free agency. This office may went out and before he free to see even begin signed. Charles clay, Robert Alfred got a very big deal for guy really struggle for the falcons last year and then afterwards, Jordan Hicks, Terrell sucks. Darius violent Marcus Gilbert..

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"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

The Bill Barnwell Show

02:59 min | 2 years ago

"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

"And I I think the flip side of it. Of course, is that there are times where teams actually do change making major drop off. And I think if you're you know, I think for me on the kind of person Ryan pretty hesitant to make changes and sort of shift away view teams, and you kind of miss it. You kind of get kinda get stuck behind. And you're not catch up to the new information. It's a tough balance. But I think it's like you said, I think it's human nature. I think when you see see what happened to the page. Treats on Sunday. I mean, even if you don't think while the patriots are doomed and Bella check needs to get fired and gronk needs to, you know, get traded or we obviously like that's a little extreme. But I think it is natural to sort of look at that. And be like, okay. Oh, maybe it's not our ear. Maybe it's just not meant to me with the patriots. We've seen it. I mean, this is a it's a really fascinating team. And I think it's one of the rare cases where we've had a big enough sample when it comes to Belichick Brady and the patriots as a whole that we've seen so many things happen to them. And then go through so many different struggles. And then figure things out and be fine by the end of the year. That's right. And and you know, I want to tell a quick story Bill that I just remember from when I first started covering the league, you know, back in the mid to late nineties and the patriots had a cornerback who had played for Carolina. I think his name was Steve Lofton. I don't I should have it off the top of my head. But he was like a nickel corner. Forgive you. And he only played for Dom Capers. He said, I said, I said give me some advice, you know, as a young reporter, like what what do I need to know? And he said for him one of the things done Capers. Once told them was like this league has so many ups and downs and twists and turns that the best way to approach things is to keep it even of a keel as you can like don't ride the roller coaster, you know, to go so far up because then the down will be such a crash. I think that's sort of ties into what we're talking about here. You know, like one week, it can be a really really Scott gut wrenching loss like the patriots had. But you know, if they come back and beat Pittsburgh. You know what I mean? Like, you don't wanna go so high that you're sorta it's so volatile. You just try to keep it right in that middle ground. And and that's usually a fairly good place to be. I think it is too. I think that it makes total sense, by the way, it was Steve Lofton. You're correct. Yeah. Yeah. In nineteen Ninety-seven patriots ninety eight but she played ten games over two years for the mass Evan in ninety eight two decades ago. How about that pulling that out, and I was like should I do it? Should I do it? And then you had my back. See that's great teamwork right there that was that was like a combo block right there. I loved it. I quote unquote did my job by tried to offer. Well, like, there's always a pleasure to have you on the show where can people check out all the stuff you do covering the patriots? Well, ESPN we have so many great platforms, as you know, you know, right on ESPN dot com every team has its page. I'm patriots page, and then you can go ESPN Boston dot com..

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"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

The Bill Barnwell Show

03:48 min | 2 years ago

"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

"But I do believe the discussion would be shifted significantly. You know, and so I go back to something Tom Brady said early in the season in one of his radio interviews, and he said, it's usually not till week ten that, you know, what you really have in your team, you know, and I think back to that because week ten this year, they didn't know, and I would almost say that we fifteen I'm not sure they really know. And so there's two points of of. Thought here one is well, you just answered your own question. You know, what you you know, what you have your inconsistent team that hasn't put it together, you know, or the other side, and I'm not sure which one I have to be honest with you that I lean toward is. They've had you know, the moving parts at the start of the year without Julian Edelman on the suspension, you know, bringing Josh Gordon in you know, via trade gronkowski in and out of the lineup. Rex Burkhead coming off injured reserve that you haven't really had the team that you're working with now for an extended period of time to know what you had. And do you know what I mean Bill? So almost like, maybe it is this is like maybe what they are. It's just an unusual year that they haven't figured it out yet. But like I would just say like if we talk next week I wouldn't be shocked if they're coming off their best game of the year that they finally put it together. So I'm I'm thinking there's still there's still a little margin that we got to leave for them here. Before we maybe write the final chapter. Of course. I think that's the smart reasonable take. Which I it's recently come on the show, the reason, I respect your work so much. I absolutely make sense to me you think about the Steelers in the flip side of this months ago a few weeks ago there were six two and won. They just beat the ravens. They blown out the Panthers by thirty one points on Thursday night football, and everyone's kind of sitting there and saying wow this team. I mean, they're scary. You know, they're absolutely nobody's gonna wanna play them. Come the postseason the next four games. They narrowly beat the Jags on the final play of the game or miss the final play of the game lose three straight games to the Broncos. The chargers in the raiders to those teams. Not exactly. It'll be scary competition. I think it's fair to say the raiders were the most gruesome loss, of course. Now the next two weeks they play the patriots there at the saints. They could miss the playoffs entirely. I mean, do you think we, you know, whether it's patriots fans, whether it's it's us as fans of the game is a whole do you think react too much from week to week, and sort of get caught up in like, you know, what we just saw most recently as as the best measure of performance. Yeah. That's a great point Bill. And I think part of it the fun of it. And let's not forget like, I we wanna have fun. Like why else? Are we doing it? Right. Like, and so it is fun to see a game and react. And I mean, I go back to sort of that that game with the Rams and the chiefs on Monday night. Right. Everyone's talking about oh, it's all about often and all that stuff. And then you know, you come and you see the Rams go into Chicago. And you know, the defense wins the day. Right. So I do think we. React. And I think that, you know, part of that's like I would hate to see that go away because that truly is part of the fun of what we do is reacting to what we saw. But if we don't do it in the context of it's a long grind, you know and things can change from week to week in this league in an instant. And you know, I think if you can mix the two that's probably the best place to be, and, but we wouldn't be human. You know, we didn't get swayed in one direction or the other, you know, from time to time. I mean, I think it's tough. And I know I struggled with it too..

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"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

The Bill Barnwell Show

03:45 min | 2 years ago

"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

"But put in doing that, we're still stout enough against the run, you know, and we're helping ourselves in the passing game. It's almost like this sort of middle ground defense for them. Well, it can't be a middle ground defense. If you can't hold up against the run, you know in your big nickle package and spinach forward to the Steelers. And you know, I think they liked to play a lot of three wide receiver offense, you know. And so I'm thinking along the lines of if I'm Bill Belichick and Brian Florida's their defensive play collar. You know, what's my confidence level going in my big nickel in this game? You know, like we and they. Bill. They had to go to their base defense in the second half last week to add a little more bulk up front a little more power little more size. And they basically went back to like the most simple base defense, you know, in the second half. And so to me, that's sort of what I wanna see like one. Are they going to go back to that big nickel and two if they do, you know, can they be more stout against the run? Absolutely. And you think about the teams that are going to play come January. The chiefs are team that's going to spend a lot of time in their three white sites that are going to try and stretch them enforce the patriots to you know, matchup against those teams when they wanna have receivers on the field on the Steelers again could be team they play again, come January hardly out of the question. Same sort of thing. The chargers spend a fair amount of time in three light as well as they could be a team that comes out. And then, of course, with on the other side of the bracket the saints. The Rams to teams that especially the Rams are going to be in three white almost every single snap. So obviously a place where they have. To really accelerate the final few weeks and into the postseason. What about rob gronkowski? I mean, obviously, I think to some extent it's unfair for us to watch. What happened on that play and see him, you know, struggle to move laterally and make a tackle in the open field against Kenyan Drake at the same time. Obviously, it's not his position now that he's paid to do. So I'm not surprised if he didn't look great in the situation. But how do you think he looks overall danced the postseason, and do you think they need a healthy and effective gronk to play at the level? We're accustomed to from the patriots offense. So, you know, for me Bill, I give him a total pass on that. Last play. You know in the game. Like, I I wouldn't expect him to look good against Kenyan Drake or just trying to tackle in general like he shouldn't have been on the field. And so I'm giving him a pass on that. I would you know, I would say offensively. You know, he's not vintage gronk, which is when I say vintage grunk what I think of is a guy. Guy that's carrying multiple defenders as lunging to the end zone. He's you know, consistently drawing. Attention from mobile defenders that is happening at times. But it looks different to me is what I'm trying to say this year. But I would say that let's say seventy five percents of what maybe it was at vintage gronk level. I think a seventy five percent gronkowski is still a very good gronkowski and is still making the patriots better when he's on the field than when he's not on the field, you know, compared to the alternative of Dwayne Allen or Jacob Hollister at that position or a whole different groupings. So they do need them in my opinion. And it's just I would say it's probably unrealistic based on what we've seen at this point to expect one hundred percent of gronk that vintage gronk that we've seen in the past. But what he's giving them. At least what he gave him last week..

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"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

The Bill Barnwell Show

04:11 min | 2 years ago

"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

"I would say historically like this has been one of the I call it a foundational principle of Bill Belichick's program. Here is that they. They do a great job in terms of turning the page, and that goes from everything to Super Bowl championship victories where you know, it was last year in in training camp where I remember Bill Belichick saying look, we're done with the parades. Like, no more like it's time to move on. You know to these top losses like, you know, two thousand seven when you're undefeated season ends in the Super Bowl, you know, and the come back the next year and to have you know, an eleven and five seasons. So they have historically been able to turn the page on thrilling winds, devastating losses. But every year is different. You know? And and who knows really how this team will respond. I my sense is they'll respond favorably. Because you know, I think it's a good locker room. I think they have good good people in there and good players. But it's not like it's an easy spot. You know? A Pittsburgh a team that in many ways is very desperate. It's sort of sets up a very interesting situation. Yeah. I mean, you look at the numbers for playoff leverage when it comes to Brian Burks tweet every week about you know, how how much each week matters to give and team and their chances of making the postseason. The patriots are basically still all said, it could impact their seating. Of course in the long run losing to the dolphins last week. But basically, they're pretty much a lock gets the postseason even if they lose again to the Steelers this week, whereas Pittsburgh on the other hand. I mean, this is a team that I think their playoff averages over forty percents. Forty percent swing or more between them making and missing the playoffs. Not just being missing it altogether. If there is the patriots this week. So how do you think the patriots sort of Banou for that where you have a team that is absolutely not only a very talented team in the Steelers. But absolutely desperate to win this football game. And stay in the playoff hunt in the AFC. So for the patriots. It's it's I'm really glad you mentioned the numbers because you know, even if they go out there and lose which you know, I think how the game unfolds. It'll be important to the patriots. You know, like you said they can lose and they're probably still going to be in the playoffs. They're in very good position. But what they need to do Bill like for them is they need to play a complete game. Like, even if they lose, but they play a very complete game. Like they need. They need a performance that they can feel good about like, sixty minutes. And what's what's so interesting about this team this year is that they've shown these flashes of. Wow, they could be great. And yet they've also been wildly inconsistent. Where one week your defense looks great. And then the next week, you know, they can't stop the run. And I just feel like for them. You know? Get positioning themselves for when they get into the playoffs to have the you know, a good solid road game complete performance. Would mean a lot to them just just to knowing that in the playoffs. They might have to go on the road to win a big game. And I think to me that is their focus in this game. It's just put it together. So you can go into the playoffs saying if we have to put it together in the play up we've shown me can do it in a very challenging environment to do that. Yeah. I mean, I it certainly it's almost like an have to prove it more to themselves in a way, you know, then prove it to the rest of the league. I think everyone's still Celtics. The patriots are still going to be in the running, you know, coming. But of course, this is a situation where they're playing for home field advantage in a lot of ways, and they don't want to necessarily, you know, have to go and travel to Kansas City. I in in the postseason, it looks like they're going to have to unless candidate takes a real step backwards over the final couple of weeks of the. Year. Is there something you want to see from them specifically over the final three weeks?.

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"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

The Bill Barnwell Show

02:30 min | 2 years ago

"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

"Can't still Thursday December thirteenth, and I am joined now talk about the patriots came from last week. Pretty quiet on eventful game. Nothing exciting really happened there. And the patriots Steelers game coming up this weekend. All pal ESPN's, Mike, Greece. Mike, how are you? I'm doing great. How's everything going? It's great. I'm here in Bristol, Connecticut, just enjoying a beautiful snowy day. I'm sure the weather is fantastic up in New England as well. But we have a a really interesting time with the season for the pats here where of course, we'll talk about the Steelers game is coming up in a moment. But last week we also had happened against the dolphins. And they place that has been sort of a disaster for the patriots in recent years lose to Miami on a last second laterals play a probably know the player of the year in the NFL news for the patriots are not on the opposite side of the play of the year. I mean in terms of your coverage of the patriots assisting most frustrating regular season loss you've seen for New England. Well, it's definitely gotta be right up near the top deal. I mean, it's just so unusual to see a Bill Belichick coach team. You know, be on the other side of that. I mean, this is what they pride themselves on the situational football. And you know name comes down to one play. That's what Bill Belichick always says. And to not have the right personnel on the field. If stunning and sort of really sets it up Bill for like, that's really the story of the week. It's it's how did they respond to something? That's just so uncharacteristic of them. Yeah. I mean, I it's just, you know, this is sort of the thing. This like you figure the patriots will do this on the other side of things. They would take advantage of a a mismatch substitution. It wouldn't be a play where for example, another team had their best safety off the field for one snap. And it happened to be the most important snap of the game. And the patriots were the one taking advantage of team that perhaps inexplicably in some ways had a a tight end playing safety on on the final play of the game. I mean is it, you know, I do think there is a a long lasting impact on this. Do you think anything really changes in the long run for the patriots? Just just you know, just the confluence of bad things happening for one awful play at exactly the wrong time in their entrance are gonna have forgotten about it by the time. We get the Sunday. Well, it is a tough. I mean, that's a tough question to answer Bill because I mean, I wanna see how they do respond. Now..

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"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

The Bill Barnwell Show

03:47 min | 2 years ago

"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

"But he got you gotta be able to to more than just beat the jets and beat Arizona like you have to win games that actually matter. And you know, I think that's you know, that they would just make complete sense as to if they miss the playoffs trying to find okay? Okay. Maybe it's best that they you know, that they put people on the hot seat and really pick cold hard look at the philosophy and the direction of team is going because I don't think you can just blame it on the offensive coordinator. I mean, there are a lot of people out there who feel like Johnny little befall Edison critical time, and they're warranted to think that because it wasn't just on him. But offense did not falter entirely because of the offensive coordinator, there's a lot of different factors in that. From the throne off to the quarterback tasked with executing the place that you know, if it does boil down to they lose some really critical that the games here down the stretch and they don't make the playoffs. I mean, this ownership is kind of been known to swing the way of the fan base. And really listen to that heavily. And I think there will be some very unhappy people if that's the case in that might lead to know coaches Inc. Putting the position for the think they'd be in this year. Supporting let me finish with this. Obviously. I think if the Vikings went back, even what's happened. I don't. They would hire Johnny Filipo to be. There are offensive coordinator this off season. Do you think if they could go back and they could replay this off season again, and they had the same opportunity to sign Kirk cousins for twenty eight million dollars a year. Do you think they would go back and resigned Kirk cousins and just sort of hope it goes better the next time or do you think they would make a change in approach the offseason differently? If they knew they were not going to address the offensive line back, then and I don't know if we'll ever really know that if they they wanted Frank rag. Now that is who they wanted. That was not a secret that who they wanted to get it thirty Well Detroit victim at twenty. So what are you supposed to do in that situation? You there were other guys the run on interior offensive linemen that Rick Spielman talked about you surprised that they went that quickly. Well, you know, that's something that you have to be prepared for in my opinion. So what you do that you weren't going to address the offense of line to protect Kirk cousins. So we could have that twenty sixteen success. Then I don't think you. Fine him. But in playing devil's advocate here the market commanded quarterbacks. Like Kirk cousins. You know, proven veteran quarterback. I mean, three years starters. Not like this is, you know, Brock Osweiler that we're talking about. And I mean, he's got his own. He has. So, you know issues in leaving teams empty-handed for the amount of money that was paid. You think that the market demanded them to pay her cousins what they did? Otherwise, the jets would have done it. And you don't ever want to be in that situation where you're like, well, we could have had this guy. And who we have right now is not cutting. It do I think her cousins would have done much better with the jets. I don't know. I kinda doubt it the jets are in their own state of turmoil because of other issues, but you know, there's a number of different circumstances that factor in there. It's not just a yes or no question is do you? Okay. If we knew it was gonna play out this way. Do we still sign him? I could see an argument for yes. I could more heavily those see an argument for no thinking. Okay. We bring case Cam back. We can find two other offensive linemen and give ourselves a chance here. The next few years. Do not have to put as much stress in the family recap and not have to worry about you know, a Super Bowl window. That's so tight as it is. Yeah, it's hardly out of the question is. Obviously, a extremely difficult thing. And I don't you know, they were the only team that wanted Kirk cousins. And if it wasn't for them offering Kirk cousins twenty eight million dollars a year, you know, he would have had to settle for a win year deal for for fifteen million dollars..

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"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

The Bill Barnwell Show

02:06 min | 2 years ago

"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

"Age through in through certainly doesn't feel that way. But you know in terms of draft decisions. I mean, I think that Mike Zimmer has a very heavy say in how his roster is constructed and that, you know, both he and works Zimmer or sees me in Rick Spielman, or are, you know, very much tied together. By a lot of decisions that are made good and bad. So let's say the Vikings. Do miss the playoffs which is not out of the question at the moment, given that they're they're six six and our football power index projects them with a sixty nine point six percent chance of making the postseason so still favoured. But but not exactly the sort of lock you would've figured before the year. I mean is it if they don't make the playoffs. Do you think there will be more significant changes or will? They just kind of run it back and say, well, we got the OC problem wrong. And maybe we address the offensive line come, you know, come the twenty twenty twenty nineteen off season. Excuse me. No, I think that you absolutely have to have more changes. If this team misses the playoff. It comes down to. What was the root issue here? Why did why were they never end position in certain games against really good opponents by is that your quarterback is that your offensive line? I mean, that's a front office thing that comes into criticism the most, and, you know, in my opinion, Mike Zimmer experiment, you know, the entire staff. It's probably on the hawks seat. If they missed the playoffs here because you know. Money talks. I mean, you spend eighty four million dollars on Kirk cousins to get you to this point. You're not gonna bench him. You're not gonna fire him, essentially. I it's gotta fall on the decision makers and the people calling the plays and the people, you know, getting the players to execute every single week and that lack of execution if that's what it comes down to where they missed the playoffs here. I don't think that will be taken lightly at all do you think that's warranted? Like that. They they should make major changes that they don't make the playoffs. Yeah. I think I think it has to be because you look at the situation right now. And that's why I've always been a proponent that. Kirk cousins is not gonna win a Super Bowl here in his first season in Minnesota..

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"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

The Bill Barnwell Show

03:28 min | 2 years ago

"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

"You do have with some of your personnel. But also kind of be a little bit more hands off with that. I mean, certainly, it's you know, you want him to Knoxville okay offense. You know, we're going to do us on we're gonna win the game. But there is, you know, in my mind, I think his leadership will be tested the heaviest of his career throughout these next three games. And what the Vikings are able to do, and you know, if they get to the play offs. It's a matter of it's not matter getting the playoffs matter of actually winning a game in the playoffs. And right now, you're going Chicago January six and having to do that. And that's no easy task. Absolutely not. And of course, you think about Zimmer's relationship with this front office. Well, the front office, obviously played a big role in signing Kirk cousins and moving on from case keenum and Kirk cousins is playing as Mike Sandow. Our colleague pointed out just about as well as you would have expected them terms of his numbers. I mean numbers aren't the whole story. But they're certainly a relatively similar productions like he's dropped off dramatically at the very least. And then you're hearing reports that the front office was heavily involved with the decision to hire develop. Ac-? I mean is there is a sign of dissension and frustration between Zimmer and his front office. And is that something that is new to the organization? Well, I think that there's, you know, Mike Zimmer saying what he said the other day about like, I hire John deep Aleppo, you know, I feel a sense of responsibility that it didn't work out. I mean Rick Spielman. Let's not let's not get that twisted. Rick Spielman was heavily involved. This is not a, you know, there was the one who fired him I reported the other day that that was immersed call. It was not Rick feelings call but Rick Spielman was heavily involved in the hiring process here. There's a reason Kevin fancy was a can't with the leading candidate for this job for a while. And then they're like, all right. Let's pause on that. Got a, you know, a young talented offensive mind who's coaching the Super Bowl right now. We wanna like feel Neum out. I wanted to get a chance to interview. So and that's run office. That is Rick Spielman, and he was responsible for the tire to and I don't think we're Spielman wanted John D Filipo to go. I think that he was very much in favor of you know, keeping this thing the way it was. But at the end of the day, you have a coach who's in the second contract he gets control of its staff. So I think to like the bigger point there. I kind of forgetting your question literally, bleary eyed right now, so help me out here. What what was the part that? I'm not answering just in terms of do you think it is a new thing for the Vikings have dissension between simmer and the front office. You know, I I don't I don't think so because you know in the past. I mean, I think that they they are on the same page in a lotta respects. I mean, the fact that they drafted a cornerback at thirty. That's got that's got a defensive head coach who wants his secondary to be the best in the league. And to continue having a success that it did that has his fingerprints all over that. Because otherwise, you would have gone with the most obvious need which was filling your, you know, your spot at right guard. And you know, we can talk about that too were blue in the face. I mean, I think part of it too. Was that the guy that they wanted were not there at thirty? And they didn't really have a great backup plan. So that's why they fell short. But you know, Rick Spielman and Mike Zimmer have been tied together since Zimmer got here two thousand fourteen and to me, it kind of feels like they, you know, it's one does one thing. I mean, they're both on the same page about a lot of things, you know. I don't know if the offense coordinator was was one that I don't know if they were really on the same page..

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"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

The Bill Barnwell Show

03:43 min | 2 years ago

"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

"He's worked with before. Certainly. But I don't think it's there, you know, Kirk cousins said yesterday, they're not gonna all of a sudden and be zone read team that's running it all the time or doing a ton of trick plays. I mean, this is a team that's dropped back. I'm sixty nine percent of its play at sports most in the NFL. Do I think that number probably evens out a little bit? Yeah. I do because focused with the focal point for Mike Zimmer. That season that they wanna run the ball more. And you'd have to think that entrusting Kevin's defence key to run your offense that he's going to do with head coach those. Yeah. I mean, I guess the question for you is now with regards to Zimmer of course, we think about the twenty sixteen season where they did struggle with end of the year. You had members of that defensive secondary just street up ignoring his his his instructions on the field and changing the way they were going to cover guys for for a half twenty seventeen. Of course, you know, great season seemed like everyone was on the same page. And now, we're seeing those sort of struggles in twenty eighteen do you think that Zimmer is a particularly hard person to work with in terms of whether you're the coaching staff, whether you're his players, I mean, do you think he has been sort of thorny to deal with from their perspective? And then do you think that this material changes the way people are going to view Zimmer as a as a head coach? Well, I think there's something to be said about the fact that he's onto his fourth OC since two thousand sixteen with two of those being midseason departures. Turner is not talked about Minnesota much. And he's been asked about it. And I think that that is a story that plays to a much bigger issue that you know, who knows me John Filipo. I think did what he could and felt the pressure to ever since week seven felt the pressure to start running the ball more running what Mike Zimmer wanted. But I mean Zimmer as a defensive guy there's you know, he's last head coach in the NFL to call defensive plays. And there's a part of me that believes that, you know, the identity of this football team he wants the defense is gonna win game. He wants your offense to maintain to you know, to to control the clock to pull out stops, or, you know, essentially to pull out what they need to when you know to support the defense to run the ball on the pressure off at the time and not really do much more than that. I mean, I think that there's something to be said about teddy Bridgewater and why Mike Zimmer loved him so much. Not just as a person. I mean that was certainly that's been talked about it like all the time. But the way cut he played he would be willing to sit back there and take the sack, and and not run much risk in the sense of egos. You know, he's really good. As an intermediate passer. He wasn't much of a deep ball threat. But it got it just did it did just enough to keep the Vikings in games to win on offense when they need to. But they were never going to like change that identity of the team where they all of a sudden became, you know, an offensive powerhouse mean this was still I mean for defensive guy who calls the shots. That's his prerogative. And I think that that's that's what we're seeing here in terms of some of the philosophical differences had with coordinators in the past and that needs to be part of this conversation long-term as far as Mike Zimmer leadership. I mean, I, you know, Mike saying that he's going to take more of an involved role. On the offense. And that could lead to disaster who really could you kinda hope that you know, if you're a Vikings fan that he leading up to the guy that he entrusts to call plays doodoo, install an offense sets going to work and execute within the restrictions..

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"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

The Bill Barnwell Show

02:36 min | 2 years ago

"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

"No for the fact that you could have taken some of that money, and you put a ten million dollars each on two different offensive lineman. You could've gone after Josh Sitton who was a hot name early on. You have you know, found ways to bolster your offense of line. And you know, have that that sort of that because you know, you just you would have had money. I think it comes down to financials. Look it always does. And you know, what they have the same record. They do right now. Maybe because you're looking at, you know, essentially first place schedule where they had to play so many difficult road games. And they had such a tough stretch Chicago games through the Seattle game. And now, it's obviously we'll get a little bit easier with Miami at Detroit. And then probably, you know, a c- squad bears team that won't be worrying about positioning and can rest some of their guys. Who knows is Khalil Mack plays in that game. But you know, what they be? I think they would have at least the same record right now with case keenum that they did. Did what they do with Kirk cousins. If he was still here. The offense ivine is probably not an issue because you're able to you know, have pieces that you couldn't afford in free agency this year. Absolutely. Do you think that they've made the change now that they replaced Filipa with Kevin's defensively who's been there for years in different roles and that was going to be the offense coordinator, do you think the offense does dramatically changed for versus the offense? We've seen over the first fourteen get fourteen weeks of the year. I think it's too. It's too little too late to do any sort of wide spread changes offensively. I could see some concepts from Pat Shurmur playbook popping up here. I asked and we talked to Mike Zimmer about and I asked Pat alpine about it yesterday. Just in terms of you know, he said they wanna be more balanced and as an offensive lineman. Of course, they want to run the ball. So I could see them activating the screen game a little bit more. Whether it's running back screens or even wide receiver screens using a lot on motion. Things like that. But made them successful last year. His Kevin first time as the play caller. So we're going to get a taste of what he's wanting to do based off. You know, if he pulling from guys that he's worked under in Minnesota. I mean, he's been he's longest tenured staff member they have been here thirteen seasons, then under a host of different offensive coordinators, especially in the last few years, I you know, Mike Zimmer has gone through offensive coordinators pretty quickly. I eat onto sports since two thousand sixteen when north Turner resigned. So I could see Pat see having fancy implementing some things that he learned under the guise..

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"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

The Bill Barnwell Show

03:23 min | 2 years ago

"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

"So again, ZipRecruiter dot com slash Barnwell. Ziprecruiter, the smartest way to hire. Not after the show, you know, it seems like Kirk cousins it's so weird to say because the guy who's making twenty eight million dollars a year. I certainly envy him from that perspective. But in terms of you know, the situation he is in where he took over for thirteen and three team that you know, was very successful last year almost made it to the Super Bowl came within one game of making the Super Bowl Kirk cousins. Is there a level of play? He could have had this year that was anything short of MVP caliber play that would have justified, you know, how much money he made to the fans or or was going to prevent him from coming in for any criticism. If the Vikings did struggle on offense. Well, you know, the day they signed him that eighty four million dollar figures sparked the the Super Bowl or bust. Conversation, which I think is absolutely ludicrous. I don't think I I've never bought into that. I think you have any Super Bowl window for sure he will have to win a Super Bowl you have to at least get to the Super Bowl in the time of his first contract. Otherwise, I think do you have a completely justified conversation for that being being one of the biggest failures in three and signing history. And certainly for a team, you know, this is this could go down if that is the case that could could go down the worst signing since Herschel Walker. So I mean, I I do think that this type of situation Kirk was only set up for failure in a way because of the expectations. But also, you know, I've been pounding my fist on the table about this and pretty much everything I'd written since you know, be day. He was signed begins a few weeks later. Joe Birger his right guard retired right? And the Vikings didn't address the in my opinion. They didn't dress the offense of line until it was too late. They're very lucky that Brian o'neil's. Forming the lovely doing now. But he wasn't always like that. He was their worse. Offense ivine for quite some time. But you know, it was a rookie who the project and at least year way of having to play. But to me, they knew what they were getting because at no point in his career as they started from twenty fifteen on head Kirk continuously in on a regular basis been able to elevate the rest of his team performed very well in Washington and twenty sixteen which you know, a year they missed the playoffs. And yeah, yeah. The the twenty fifth twenty fifth ranked defense that year. So everything was great on offense. But he wasn't able to elevate team on the level of just, you know, offensively like are, you know, defensively what they had to deal with. But every piece around him that year is just as good as as it is in Minnesota in my opinion with the Vikings except for the offense ivine give Trent Williams who's your left tackle Pro Bowl left tackle playing. You know, great. I think the highest. Offensive lineman, regardless of addition that year and the rest of your offensive line was incredibly good at bought him. Time made him a great play action quarterback in those pieces since he's missing that element here in Minnesota cling at the level, he is because of that is what say they don't signed Kirk cousins, let's say they pocket the money. They resigned case keenum, they give him the same contract. The Broncos gave case keenum this year. Do you think the Vikings are going through the same issues on offense as they are with customs?.

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"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

The Bill Barnwell Show

03:01 min | 2 years ago

"courtney cronin" Discussed on The Bill Barnwell Show

"Show. I'm Bill Barnwell, and we are here on Thursday December thirteenth two thousand eighteen week. Fifteen crazy that were already or teen weeks through with the NFL season week fifteen is coming up final three weeks of the NFL year. Great game coming up tonight with the chiefs and charter they were gonna talk to a couple of people at that. What happened in week fourteen and the repercussions of what happened in week fourteen? And obviously in many ways the biggest story coming out of week fourteen was what happened in Minnesota. Where the Vikings were mess against the Seahawks afterwards they fire their offensive coordinator, Johnny Filipo or placed him with quarterbacks. Coach Kevin Stefanski. A very interesting change this late in the season. And joining us to discuss that and all things Vikings is our reporter for ESPN Courtney Cronin. Courtney how are you? I'm good Bill. How are you? I'm good. I had a much quieter week. Then you I feel like you had a late game, of course on Monday. And then total chaos seems like over the ensuing. Couple days with the Vikings force firing ninety Filipo their offensive coordinator. So let's just start there in terms of the actual act happening in terms of depot getting fired. I mean, are you surprised, you know, would you even surprised I told you it was going to happen to weeks ago a month ago, two months ago? Like was there a point where you felt like it made sense? Or what are your thoughts on the flip firing general writing been on the wall for a while? I mean right around mid season when they put up thirty seven points on the road to the jets and Mike summer saying after that win I wish we would around the Baltimore that to me indicates. Okay. There's there's something there's a a blip in the philosophy agreement between head coach and offensive coordinator. So and I mean that was a game to where they were so bad on third down that I can understand the frustrate. Nations from Zimmer. But not you know, seeing the offense put up that many points. Didn't didn't change his mind that he felt that it should have been done differently? So from that point on I mean, you come out of that bears law since Emerson there's too much volume in the playbook, and then you know, beyond that, the balance argument and saying that, you know, still saying, hey, you do on the ball where we need to run the ball more in the red zone, etc. Etc. That you felt the tension rising there that he wasn't happy with the way things for transpiring with his offense. And I'm not surprised at the timing on very precarious time in a fire your office coordinator with three games left. I mean, you can look at this from a number of different lenses. You know for the first one being pay Mike Zimmer said, she didn't let direction the offense is going to last four to five fifteen and then he felt he had to do something. She did up to salvage his that's one thing. But also play in your offense coordinator with three games remaining. And right now, you're in. Sixty four the playoff playoff. Sure. It's if you get this turn around, you know, and they make the playoffs, and you know, if they can win a playoff game. This could you know refer guy like Mike Zimmer..

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"courtney cronin" Discussed on NFL Live

NFL Live

01:31 min | 3 years ago

"courtney cronin" Discussed on NFL Live

"Yes the i ask mike zimmer about the status of safety anderson daeho this afternoon he said he's not yet out of a concussion protocol but he was just listen as a full participant in friday's practice and is expected to go through testing today and play on sunday so that makes and day mackenzie alexander an atom phelan who has a lower back injury listed as questionable rotational rotational defensive tackle shomar stephane is the only viking has been ruled out for sunday's game with a knee injury hey that's courtney cronin live with the vikings darren let's talk about this waking his defense harrison smith we know as center all pro season this whole defense chiefs so impressive why were they play great at all three levels of fraud the deal on linebackers in the safety and into cornerback lately strong there and here is the tate here this guy plays the same rule i play with the dallas cowboys basically zimmer skied the cat and mouse game with the safety any don't looks out and says you know what i know you're coming your bullets if from the outside to hear sis vis as you know what i am coming on the blitz coming off the lava what makes a special is that here since that doesn't go vic aloof those strict down the line of scrimmage to tackle from the high that's on teachable that's just football instincts and then again diagnosing plays in the back feel knowing that he's reading through this tackle running back to their quarterback and he sees a screenplay before the tackle can get out there and just see things before the play.

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