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Hotel Corona

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34:21 min | 3 months ago

Hotel Corona

"Hey you're listening to rough translation from NPR. Gregory Warner last month are Jerusalem correspondent. Daniel Estrin was doing with so many of us. Were doing on lockdown kind of sitting on the couch with nothing to do and my partner in iron in our apartment and we're not going out one hundred meters from our home and we're watching instagram together. Scrolling past too many sourdough starters and masks fees scrolling and scrolling like every once in a while. I'll be like whoa check this out. Then he this video you see about a dozen people in a carpeted lobby doing this funny Macarena Move Together. Zuma and this is not Zimba by Zoom in person. No masks breathing all over each other Zimba. The reason they can do this without any social distancing is because they are at a hotel for people already have the corona virus in the video. It's mainly young Israelis. You see a guy wearing what looks like a t shirt he got in the army and there's a girl in a job and that is what caught my eye because Israeli society is pretty segregated. Arabs and Jews tend to live in separate cities and go to separate schools. I mean yes you will see them both in the market but seeing them together an exercise class by choice having fun well this is going to be interesting and there are so many other videos like this coming out of hotel corona with people doing things that. I can't do with other people Sunday. They can give each other high fives and hugs and dance party rooftop Yoga Kariuki off. It's like watching reality. Tv except that Daniel usually hates reality TV but hotel corona is like this alternate reality like the reality TV show. I actually do want to watch. This is rough translation from NPR. I'm Greg border. It really is the perfect reality. Tv show setup two hundred people from all walks of life Israelis Palestinians religious all recovering from Kobe. Nineteen some of them. Fresh from the hospital now forced to live together in a hotel until they're no longer contagious. And they call this Place Hotel Corona. It's not just Daniel watching this. Lots of Israelis are tuning in. Except they're not trying to watch the dramas. The thing here is the lack of drama and people are wondering is this for real. Are they getting along as well as they see today? The Story Inside Hotel Corona. And why this show won't get a second season when rough translation returns. We're spending more time at home than ever before. So now's a great time to finally adopted dog right. Socialization is going to be harder because socialization and social distancing a are definitely at odds so before you decide to adopt a canine companion during quarantine. Listen and subscribe to. Npr's life kit. Hey we're back with rough translation. I'm Gregory Warner so I'm no I'm in. I am corona patients number. Three thousand five hundred and fifty five which is a very symbolic number here in the Middle East because when you have three five it's good luck. No shuster is an Israeli comedian before the corona virus. She got her big break a booking for her one woman show in Washington. Dc IN GIGS. For the place and then her shows were cancelled. She flew back to Israel and passed out at home. It felt like her lungs. Were on fire. After a short stint in the hospital she was dropped off by ambulance at the Dan Hotel in Jerusalem. A nine story hotel with tennis courts SPA now lease to the Government House recovering covert nineteen patients when I got to the hotel doors open. And that's it immediately. The doors shot in there is. There is no going out for me anymore until I get released until two negatives to negative tests. Then she's allowed to leave. You feel like you're like an alien and then I walked in as anyone here up. Two flights finds the reception desk in case plexiglass this very nice religious guy with a yarmulke asking how I was and me know that they're here for us. So My name is borough pizza. The reception manager at the Dan. Jerusalem hotel of the hotels nearly four hundred employees. Barak is one of only about four dozen who agreed to keep working here when the patients arrived for me it was simple. I knew from the beginning that I'm going to stay. There is a say in the hotel industry that it's like it's like a virus if it catches you. It's very hard to go out. Besides he worried if he wasn't here. The army might send soldiers to do it. It would have been like Like a military camp to run the hotel as as a hotel not give the guest a feeling that they are in jail. You have to have hotel years. Yeah what is different about it? What's the hospitality part that you bring to it? We welcome to kissed. We speak to them to get them out from the shock that they're in when they're coming into the hotel and then there was a small interview when they're coming in. What's your name? How old are you for where you for your coming from? He asked me from the check in. Do I keep Chabad? How religious I am of course I know according to names if they are Jews or non Jews. The reason for these questions is that Barak has to play matchmaker. He assigns people roommates for their time in the hotel. Oh I wish she had a man for me. I think you could choose well for me. The room assignments were really really good signing rooms in a place like Israel. It's not easy. For example. One person was all docs. We've matched him with an Orthodox. Those two could not stop fighting over the T. V. as in one wanted to watch it the other said it was forbidden to turn it on so Barak separated them and made a note to ask about that in the entrance interview and then another day another complaint. Someone came to me. Listen I I don't Wanna we staying with this guy. I told him this why you're an Arab. And he's an Arab you're twenty years old and he's twenty years old so what's wrong. No but I'm coming from the north and he's coming from the South Barak says his job is to make every patient every guest as comfortable as possible in a time of uncertainty and he says that means being with your own kind blue pray like you pray people who think like you think we are trying to do the best we can and can say it's ninety eight percent success really. Yep and my experience. It's easier for them if it's a similar as possible. My name is is Shabaab. Nineteen years old and I'm from rats. It in the negative is Muslim and Bedouin and Barak didn't need to assign her roommate. She arrived at the hotel with her twenty one year old brother. They're both janitors at a hospital. That's where they got the virus. It was trained. Jelavic like we reacting in our room. We didn't go outside. We didn't check up with the people. It just felt weird not to be interacting with the other guests. I love to know people like listening to them. Sharing with them Stories and so would you. Here's Announcing dinner over the PA SYSTEM. Aisha goes down gets her individually wrapped supper tray and looks around for a place to sit their religion. Jewish was together. She sees the religious Jews or sitting with other religious Jews. The secular or with secular and the are was together. Everybody's sticking with their own kind aisha grew up in a bedouins city in the desert speaking Bedouin dialect of Arabic. She knows about sticking with your own kind but when she was seven years old. Her Mom brought home in American couple to stay with them. They were academics. Studying Bedouin. Polygamy Asia's dad has two wives and he says mom saw these guests as an opportunity so they starting to learn US English and we starting to learn them. Arben couple was writing about you. Yeah and they was living with us to for two years. Mom would tell her. Be CURIOUS ABOUT PEOPLE. Ask Questions. It'll help you. And so now. Holding her tray of food in Hotel Corona Aisha's scans the room for the friendliest face and she makes eye contact with an older religious Jewish couple on rum and Gina. So they were they were nice. They was laughing all the time so I chose them. It was so easy to talk to them. How did you get the virus? When would say well? How did you get by the end of the meal? They are singing and laughing together. Felt this moment was so special. She recorded it on her phone which began happening a lot. At Hotel. Corona people would have a nice chat over lunch and immediately pull out their phone to just capture this moment and these were the kind of videos that our correspondent Daniel Estrin started watching the first hotel guest I started following on Instagram was no The comedian I remember. She did this comedy show in the hotel lobby no stage. There's no Mike. And she's Kinda shouting so everyone can hear her. My body was weak. My mental state was weak. Because I know you're not going to be very good and very funny right now and he's not going to lie. It's not the funny stuff like my number is three thousand. Five hundred fifty five have three times comes from five. Won't during you my good luck with my number. Hopefully you'll get out of you know again. What are you talking about like so here is really sick and who here? Cut IT ON PURPOSE. Leaking bench outside in order to get in the hotel for free losers. Seriously that's the feeling you don't know sticking trying to get a free ride in the hotel so you knew people wonder if it's too soon for corona jokes in this hotel was not to suit and then a said that maybe we can start a tender that is just for corona patient and the first day can be going to visit grandma and GRANDPA no fear so I. I did also part of the showing Arabic I. It's also an attraction for the God. You're doing comedy Arabic. What's happening with your story? What's what's going on Noam's backstory? It is the kind of made for TV biography that you might want in a reality. Tv version of this hotel. She is a straight talking cynical political comedian who grew up learning Arabic as a kid which is weird in Israel. Most Jewish Israelis who speak Arabic learned in the army as military intelligence but she learned growing up in a Hippie village in Israel. That was intentionally built have fifty percent. Jews and fifty percent Palestinians. Navesh Shalom Salaam. In English uses of peace I was set to become the poster girl of their like. Give peace a chance movement. Nobly Best Palestinian singing songs repeated food for peace trees for peace pancakes for peace. Parents always told her she was the model of what? Israel should look like but Israel was becoming more and more polarized. The inequalities between Israelis and Palestinians and government policies against Palestinians. Were becoming more stark. Still she made peace making her job. She started working for the UN organizing dialogue groups reaching out to Israeli Jews. Who are the most skeptical of peace like ultra right-wing religious groups but both sides seem to be moving away from the ideals of compromise? She was raised to believe in. I found myself often very alone with the narrative that doesn't really resonate or doesn't apply to a lot of people and then before she was supposed to give a speech at a peace conference about her work the UN canceled the program. She lost her job and at that conference instead of going up and being the analytical UN Peacebuilding Nam. I started telling jokes and it was probably the best thing that I know. I'm with so much more successful making fun of divides than trying to bridge them. She got gigs all over the US and a fellowship at Harvard to write her one woman show coexistence my ass which he says about coexistence and about her and. I don't need to be careful anymore. I can make fun of the Jews and the next my next joke would be making fun of Palestinians. I am now not making an order out of the confusion. I'm making a mess out of the confusion making jokes in the Middle East. You never know who you're gonNA offend and of all the audience has no. I'm faced as a peace activist or as a comedian. The crowd in the lobby of hotel corona seemed like the most diverse. It was just a bunch of old young religious secular Arab Jewish everything just sitting in the lobby laughing sometimes not laughing screaming coughing. Coughing definitely coughing. She starts making jokes about this one. Supermarket cashier ends up infecting her entire village and it turns out the cashiers in the audience. Was like yeah. That's me. I did the cash here in the in the supermarket. You made all your village and everybody was a lot of footage filmed by Aisha. The hospital janitor came to the hotel with her brother. She never been to a live comedy. Show before and never even been room where Arabs and Jews shared joke book and laughing on something like common. The next morning I use it comes down to breakfast. And when she looks around to decide which group she's GonNa sit down with today. She realizes that something seems to be different like all the People. Jewish are and they starting to sitting together talking together eating together sharing a lot of stuff if before everyone was sitting in their own group. Now they're all mixed and it's not just issue breaking the ice people are approaching her and I asked them about them. Religion like about the Jewish people like why when the woman get married. She started to cover her hair. And why the guys wearing Vecchi Bob and they explain me a lot. Had you ever ask those questions before to a Jewish? No like most of things like it's hard to talk about the Jews. Esther some of the most sensitive questions that a Palestinian citizens of Israel can face like. Do you consider yourself. Israeli war Palestinian question here felt friendly genuinely curious. They didn't judge me like I'm Arabian. I'm Muslim I'm that Nope I'm a human that you can talk to me like there is no different between us. I was like wait. Where's the races whereas all the problems whereas all the prejudice where everybody's getting along here in this hotel what's happening here norms? Even more surprised when they're instagram's stories from inside the hotel start being picked up by Israeli TV. The media saw that we love sharing so so every day was like this reporter is speaking to this person in another reporter speaking to me so when we were filming other people who were like. Hey guys make some noise for channel number Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. One point no one posts a picture on facebook of her arm around a woman in a sweatshirt and he job and she tags it a Jew Palestinian stuck in the Dan Hotel in Jerusalem as with so much out of hotel corona it goes viral thousands of shares thousands of likes all the popular pages in. Israel posted the post was reposted by a biggest rarely. Tv Channel and the comments came from an even wider audience from all over Israel when a post like goes mainstream in Israel. You can be sure it'll attract some nasty comments. The usual comments would be like. Oh wait once you're out. She will send her boy to bomb you. Oh now you're getting along. But later she will throw a stone at you and I'm going through the comments and can't find one negative comment the usual racism. The trolls the hatred separation that I'm used to seeing outsiders didn't exist. Sure the people here could share a look or even photo but how would these new friendships hold up under stress? Well e remember this one day. She was walking back to a room and this guy in front of her collapses. He's look like events van God he's Gone Pale and bearded he's a young Orthodox Jew now having an asthma attack on the hallway carpet and as Russia's over to help she also stops and wonders. Am I allowed to touch him? Like I'm Muslim I maybe I'm I cannot talk to him I cannot touch him maybe if I helped him. He'll be offended so she calls the medics but they have to put on all this protective equipment just to enter the hotel. They need her to step in and I ask medical what I have to do. Don't let him fall asleep. They Tiller do you think you saved his life actually? Maybe I don't know but maybe doesn't want anybody to know that he had an attacker that you helped him or both of them. At first she didn't even tell anyone what she'd done. She didn't want to offend them. Then she worried maybe you'd have another attack so she started telling people in this older Jewish nurse told her she done something really great. He told me you can be a doctor not to nurse when she talked to me. She confessed to her that she'd always dreamed of being a nurse. Not just a hospital janitor and we started this conversation like maybe we can help each other are you should never had a mentor outside. Her family let alone a Jewish went after the break as Israel tunes into Hotel Corona. So we feel like also we are the news that media spotlight becomes the biggest test of all face masks have become the new normal as we continue to grapple with the ongoing pandemic. But when did we start wearing masks for our health and safety this week on through line the origins of the n? Ninety five mask and how it became the life saving tool. It is today through line from the podcast where we go back in time to understand the present. Hey we're back with rough translation Gregory Warner and I'm Daniel Estrin by early. April Hotel Corona had been opened less than a month and borrow from his desk behind. The plexiglas concede that the guests. We're getting along but he was worried about Passover well as always all of the family. He was worried that the guests would feel their isolation even more on this holiday. That's all about family. They might get depressed and we wanted to find a solution to that problem to give them the opportunity to have a proper sater but Seder is a lot to figure out. It's family style eating not individually wrapped. Supper trays how do you keep the food? Hot during readings and songs can last well over an hour. And how do you set it? All up in advance before the guests arrive to contaminate the space because once one of them touch anything it can go back and did anyone have any crazy. Ideas like like sending waiters with has met suits No because there there were. No one is willing to do that eventually. The hotel management decided to just open up the banquet hall to all the guests and they'd serve the Food and just do the sator themselves but there was another problem. The young guests were dying to film this for their families back home for TV. But ultra-orthodox. Jews FORBID ELECTRONICS ON RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS. The ultra-orthodox in the hotel did not want their holy commemoration of the exodus from Egypt to be instagram famous. No I'm tried to reassure them. We're not gonNA take our phones out. We're not going to dress in a way that will insult them. You know. But some of the ultra-orthodox guests made a request to borrow can hotel management wasn't demand was the polite request. We want to celebrate traditionally and the young people want to celebrate differently. And if you don't mind if it's possible to to To divide please divide the banquet hall. What for the ultra-orthodox in wonderful the rest in a video posted just before the Seder started someone shows the setup. There are the tables on the secular side with all the bottles of Soda and the Little Individual Seder plates. And then there's an actual Florida ceiling wall of which makes a complete separate room for the traditional Seder religious people. Teaming affair should come to know him. This wall wasn't a practicality it was a symbol it reminded me of the world that I'm used to before the coronado it reminded me of our default. The we prefer separation rather than the compromise. That comes with uniting Noam remembers walking into the room on the secular side and seeing the wall. Oh you're so cute to think that you found something unique here in this hotel. Let's see how this goes The Sun Setting Cedars about to begin and I talked to one of the people on the religious side. I'm rum man. He sixty six years old. He's not ultra Orthodox but he's Orthodox Guy. He says he remembers coming in with his wife. Gena she took one look at that partition wall and she tells them I can't do this. I'm gonNA cry together ago. Says he also the idea of having a divided Seder if he took down the wall could spark a fight? The ultra-orthodox could walk out in protest. And then the young people might pull out their phones and film that but are just could not do the sailor. This way anybody Vicky tells us wife. Give me two minutes and we're GONNA move this. It's too big for him to push alone. So he calls over some younger guys and they start to slide the wall. A when an ultra Orthodox man. But he's not there to stop them. We'll talk some motivation tells them I'm so happy you're moving this partition and he helps them altogether. They pushed that divider back into the corner and then as one room a hundred and eighty people. They blessed the wine. The Seder Begins Aisha and other Muslim guests in the hotel. Are there to celebrating with them. They invite me to sit with them to eat with them. And by the very last night of Passover Aisha sitting at the ultra-orthodox table and it was a great conversation. Like we catch shots shots. Yeah works of why not me them but I enjoyed them like sitting with them not to drink. Of course we do have a couple of video clips taken from the end of the Seder after the prayers when people just couldn't help it. They discreetly pulled out their phones and build the day. I've seen it on film. I was shocked. They hit a beautiful seder. Barak members watching this video of being struck by how different this was from. Sater's outside the hotel walls. The government was forbidding people from hosting any guests police set up checkpoints on Passover night to block movement borrow like all Israelis do Seder at home at home with my slow family. My parents by themselves and my mother in law set alone and they were celebrating together. They were like a small community like a huge family. Can I ask you strange question? Do you ever feel jealous. That they get to be together and touch each other or be next to each other and you have to your sense when you see them together and you know that they don't have the old rules and the barriers of the that you have now that we have now. I believe that a lot of people in Israel element of India's of that people won't forget this Passover full for a long time While Barak play these videos over and over for his friends noam played the experience over and over in her head trying to make sense of it. I was sitting in my table and watching other people remove barriers. Not me all her life. She'd been told that it was her job to bring people together a job. She felt she'd failed at. You know how it is. I wasn't the one to remove the barriers. Oh my God I wish things outside could be like this. She wondered what it was in this hotel that allow people to find common ground without slogans without the UN without can eat pancakes for peace. Is it the fact that Jews Arabs? Get the same in the hotel. Same food same terms was the people were being treated equally or that. They'd all face down the same disease that we are realizing how much of wellbeing one is the being of the other in. How will I think about this experience? When I go back to the real world we called Fisher just as she was heading back to the real world. Her brother just gotten his second negative test. I will go home Chang with the family. But she's not going back to her old life at her janitor job. This experience is talk too much a lot of stuff that I didn't know about myself like what how smart I am. Her new friends convinced her to enroll in nursing school and they can guide her while her mom always encouraged her to be curious about people. It wasn't until she got stuck in this hotel that that translate into real friendship and even opportunity watching these videos from hotel corona. I've been wondering what if a lot? More Israelis went through this experience of being stuck together in a place where the normal rules of society are suspended. Like would that change Israel and actually a lot more corona hotels have opened but most of them are segregated. Not Mixed like this one. Wow I didn't know that. Do you think it's a good idea to have separate hotels? No I called the army commander in charge of the corn teen hotels and he told me that there are so many alter orthodox Jews who caught the virus. They made special hotels just for them. He says they wouldn't come to mixed hotels. It's easier to convince people to come if they know they'll be with their own kind. Hotel Corona no longer hosts recovering patients. And when we last talked to Barak he's saying goodbye to the last of those guests when he first opened the doors and started. Assigning roommates is fear. Then was that people from different backgrounds with clash but they did not in fact they became friends and I believe that if they will have to spend a timing hotel. Jusin arps together. Maybe they will everything will be. Okay which But that's the meaning of being Israelis. That's not the meaning being Israelis. It's just how humans are. I once interviewed a reality. Tv show producer. Who confessed just how hard it is to get people to fight enough to keep it interesting. He said you have to cast characters exploit the right moments stoke the conflict because people he says individuals are frustrating. The good at getting along. That is what barrack discovered but he is also a hotel and a practical one. He agrees with the Army. Commander that segregated hotels. They're just easier to get people to come to an easier to manage. Yeah of course it's easier although we we call them the guests who main calling them guests but we cannot forget that there are sick if feels it's unseemly to take whatever magic happened here and try to impose that on the rest of the nation. This is a moment when people are feeling. Vulnerable and deeply uncertain. And we have to do the best we can to Make them feel comfortable right. So you don't see this as an opportunity to recreate Israeli society. No because we are not in love boat or life is not a is not a movie. Good luck telling that to the cast of Hotel Corona Today's show was produced by Tina. Antolini our editor is Luke Hausky. So many people listen to this season made it better. Thank you to Henry. Takhar Hussein shocker. Danielle chest though aside. Jubran Elizabeth Sinuous Spackman Robert Krulwich. Karen Duffin Sarah Gonzales. Santa Krassikov Jess Jiang Autumn. Barnes Mira Bertrand Tonic and NPR. Middle East editor Larry capital thanks to Brigadier General Urine Lardo and Atar Nussbaum the rough translation executive teams. Neil caruth Chris. Turpin de Stinky and on your government are intern is Derek. Arthur Sarah night fact. Check this episode. Mastering by Isaac Rodriguez John Ellis composed theme music and other scoring from blue dot sessions. Schuster has been documenting. Her whole journey even after hotel corona will have links to that in our show notes and before we go just one last moment from our interview with no. I'm I'm really in a movie that I can't describe One second when no one was talking to us from inside the hotel this announcement on over the PA. All my God until Tina what he said. I wonder what happened? You see I'm talking to you about this. Utopia hotel and well recording. Someone tried to reschedule. If you'd like more stories like this in your podcast feed rate and review us on Apple. Podcasts it really helps people find the show or tell a friend or two about this podcast and we always love to hear your rough translation. Moments both corona related. And not. You can drop us your thoughts at rough translation. Npr Dot Org. We're on twitter at roughly. I'm Gregory Warner Back. In two weeks with more rough translation.

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BONUS: Hotel Corona

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35:05 min | 3 months ago

BONUS: Hotel Corona

"Either up first listeners. Happy Sunday I'm Steve. Inskeep remember Gilligan's island that'll television program. Seven people head out for a three hour tour Three hour tour and they end up a lot more time together. It's the story of how people from different walks of life. You know the super rich couple the professor the movie star the All American girl Gilligan. All of them have to figure out how to get along. Well something like that really happened in Jerusalem. One of the most stratified and divided cities in the world. Here's the story from. Npr podcast rough translation. Hey you're listening to rough translation from NPR. I'm Gregory Warner last month. Are Jerusalem correspondent Daniel. Estrin was doing with so many of us. Were doing on lockdown kind of sitting on the couch with nothing to do and my partner and I are in our apartment and we're not going out like a hundred meters from home and we're watching instagram together. Scrolling past too many sourdough starters and mask sell fees scrolling and scrolling like every once in a while. I'll be like whoa check this out. Then he finds this video you see about a dozen people. And the carpeted hotel lobby doing this. Funny Macarena move together it Zimba Zimba by zoom. It's just in-person no masks breathing. All over each other Zimba. The reason they can do this. Without any social distancing is because they are at a hotel for people already have the virus in the video. It's mainly young Israelis. You see a guy wearing what looks like a t shirt he got in the army. And there's a girl in job and that is what caught my eye because Israeli society is pretty segregated. Arabs and Jews tend to live in separate cities and go to separate schools. I mean yes you will see them both in the market but seeing them together in an exercise class by choice having fun while this is going to interesting And there are so many other videos like this coming out of hotel corona with people doing things that I can't do with other people like sunbathe. They can give each other high fives and hugs and dance. And Party rooftop. Yoga audits another curiosity. It's like watching reality. Tv except that Daniel usually hates reality TV but hotel corona is like this alternate reality the reality TV show. I actually do want to watch. This is rough translation from NPR. I'm Greg border. It really is the perfect reality show setup. Two hundred people from all walks of life Israelis Palestinians religious secular all recovering from Kobe. Nineteen some fresh from the hospital now forced to live together in a hotel until they're no longer contagious. And they call this Place Hotel Corona. It's just Daniel watching this. Lots of Israelis are tuning in. Except they're not trying to watch the dramas. The odd thing. Here is the lack of drama and people are wondering is this for real. Are they getting along as long as they see today? The Story Inside Hotel Corona. And why this show won't get a second season when rough translation returns. We're spending more time at home than ever before. So now's a great time to finally adopt a Dog. Bright Socialization is going to be harder. Socialization and social distancing are definitely at odds so before you decide to adopt a canine companion during quarantine. Listen and subscribe to. Npr's life kit. Hey we're back with rough translation. I'm Gregory Warner so I'm no I'm and I am corona patients number. Three thousand five hundred fifty five which is a very symbolic number here in the Middle East because when you have three five zero good luck. Noelle shooter. Ese Is an Israeli comedian. Before the corona virus. She just gotten her big break a booking for her one woman show in Washington. Dc and gigs. All over the place and then her shows were cancelled. She flew back to Israel and passed out at home. It felt like her lungs. Were on fire. After a short stint in the hospital she was dropped off by ambulance at the Dan Hotel in Jerusalem. A Nine Story Hotel with tennis courts. The SPA now leased to the government to house recovering. Kovic nineteen patients when I got to the hotel doors open and that's it immediately. The doors shot in there is. There is no going out for me anymore until I get released until two negatives to negative tests. Then she's allowed to leave. You feel like you're like an alien And then I walked in as anyone year up. Two flights finds the reception desk in in Plexiglas. They're just saw this very nice religious guy with a yarmulke asking how I was in letting me know that they're here for us. So My name is borough pizza. The reception manager at the Dan. Jerusalem hotel of the hotels nearly four hundred employees. Barak is one of only about four dozen who agreed to keep working here when the patients arrived for me was simple. I knew from the beginning of that. I'm going to stay. There is a say in the hotel industry that It's like it's like a virus if it catches you. It's very hard to go out. Besides he worried if he wasn't here. The army might send soldiers to do it. It would have been Like a military to run the hotel as as a hotel nuts. Give the guests a feeling that they are in jail. You have to have hotel years. Yeah what is different about it? What's the hospitality part that you bring to it? We welcome kissed. We speak to them to get them out from the shock that they're in when they're coming into the hotel and then there is a small interview when they're coming in. What's your name? How old are you for where you for your coming from? He asked me in the check in like keep Chabad how religious I am of course I know according to names if they are Jews or non Jews. The reason for these questions is that Barak has to play matchmaker. He assigns people roommates for their time in the hotel. Oh I wish she had a man for me. I think you could choose well for me. The room assignments were really really good signing rooms in a place like Israel. It's not easy. For example one person was an all trout. And we've matched him with an Orthodox those two could not stop fighting over the TV as in one wanted to watch it. The other said it was forbidden to turn it on so borrow separated them and made a note to ask about that and you entrance interview and then another day another complaint. Someone came to me. Listen I don't WanNa waste staying with this guy. I told him this why. You're an urban. He's an Arab. You're twenty years old and he's twenty years old so what's wrong. No I'm coming from the north and he's coming from the South Barak says his job is to make every patient every guest as comfortable as possible in a time of uncertainty and says that means being with your own kind blue pray like you pray people who think like you think we are trying to do the best we can and you can say ninety eight percent success really. Yep and my experience. It's easier for them if it's a similar as possible. My name is is nineteen years old and I'm from rats. It in the negative Aisha is Muslim and Bedouin and Barak didn't need to assign her roommate. She arrived at the hotel with her twenty one year old brother. They're both janitors at a hospital. That's where they got the virus. It's was trained. Love it like we reaching in our room. We didn't go outside. We didn't check up with the people. Says it just felt weird not to be interacting with the other guests? I love to know people like listening to them. Sharing with them Stories so when she? Here's Barak announcing dinner over the PA system should goes down gets her individually wrapped supper tray and looks around for place to sit their religion. Jewish was together. She sees the religious Jews or sitting with other religious Jews. The secular or with secular and the Arab was together. Everybody's sticking with their own. Coit AISHA grew up in a Bedouin city in the desert speaking of Bedouin dialect of she knows about sticking with your own kind but when she was seven years old her mom brought home in American couple to stay with them. They were academics. Studying Bedouin. Polygamy Asia's. Dad IS TWO WIVES. Asia's mom saw these guests as an opportunity so they starting to learn English and we starting to learn them are. The couple was writing about you. Yeah and they was living with us to for two years for mom would tell her. Be CURIOUS ABOUT PEOPLE. Ask Questions. It'll help you. And so now holding her tray of food in Hotel Corona Aisha's scans the room for the friendliest face and she makes contact with an older religious Jewish couple. I'm rum and Gina. So they were. They were Nice. They was laughing all the time so. I chose them. It was so easy to talk to them. How did you get the virus? When would say well? How did you by the end of the meal? They are singing and laughing together. This moment was so special. She recorded it on her phone which began happening a lot at hotel. Corona people have as Chad over lunch and immediately pull out their phone to just capture this moment. And these were the kind of videos that our correspondent Daniel Estrin started watching the first hotel guest. I started following on. Instagram was no The comedian I remember. She did this comedy show in the hotel lobby stage. There's no Mike and she's Kinda shouting so everyone can hear her. My body was weak. My mental state was week. I was like no arm. You're not going to be very good and very funny right now and I'm not gonNA lie. It's not the funny stuff it's like. My number is three thousand five hundred fifty five. I have three times comes from zero five. I'll bring you good luck with my and number. Hopefully you'll get out of you like no we don't WanNa get out of you. What are you talking about like so here is really sick? And who here? Cut IT ON PURPOSE. Leaking bench outside in order to get in the hotel for three losers. Seriously that's the feeling we're sticking. Who's trying to get a free ride in the hotel? Where so you know. People wonder if it's too soon for corona jokes in this hotel was not to suit and then a said that maybe we can start a tender that is just for corona patient and the first day can be going to visit grandma and GRANDPA. No fear say did also part of the showing Arabic. It's also an attraction my God. You're doing comedy what's happening with your story. What's what's going on the ones backstory. It is kind of made for TV biography that you might want in a reality TV version of this hotel. She is a straight talking cynical political comedian who grew up learning Arabic as a kid which is weird in Israel. Most Jewish Israelis who speak Arabic learned it in the army as military intelligence but she learned growing up in a Hippie village in Israel that was intentionally built have fifty percent Jews and fifty percent. Palestinians Novica Long disallow in English of peace. I was set to become the poster girl of their like. Give peace a chance. Movement best friend Palestinian singing songs repeat his football for peace trees for peace pancakes for peace. Her parents always told her she was the model of what? Israel should look like but Israel was becoming more and more polarize. The inequalities between Israelis and Palestinians and government policies against Palestinians were becoming more stark still. She made peace making her job. She started working for the UN organizing dialogue groups reaching out to Israeli Jews. Who are the most skeptical of peace like ultra right-wing religious groups but both sides seem to be moving away from the ideals of compromise? She was raised to believe in. I found myself often very alone with the narrative that doesn't really resonate or doesn't apply to a lot of people and then before she was supposed to give a speech at a peace conference about her work the UN canceled the program. She lost her job and at that conference instead of going up in being the analytical U. N. Peacebuilding Nam. I started telling jokes and it was probably the best thing that I did know. I'm with so much more successful. Making Fun of the divides than trying to bridge them. She got gigs all over the US and fellowship at Harvard to write her one woman show coexistence which she says about coexistence and about arrests. And I don't need to be careful anymore. I can make fun of the Jews and the next. My next joke would be making fun of Palestinians. I am now not making an order out of the confusion. I'm making a mess out of the confusion making jokes in the Middle East. You never know who you're GONNA offend. And all audience is no faced as a peace activist or as a comedian. The crowd in the lobby of hotel corona the most diverse just a bunch of old young religious secular Arab Jewish. Everything just sitting in the lobby laughing sometimes not laughing screaming coughing. Coughing definitely coughing. She starts making jokes about this one supermarket cashier who ends up infecting her entire village and it turns out the cashiers in the audience. Was like yeah. That's me. I did the cashier in in the you. You all your village and everybody was laughing. Footage was filmed by the hospital. Janitor came to the hotel with her brother. She never been to a live comedy show before then. Never even been room where Arabs and Jews shared joke book and laughing on something like common. The next morning. Aisha comes down to breakfast and when she looks around to decide which group she's GonNa sit down with today. She realizes that something seems to be different like all the people Jewish are and they starting to sitting together talking together eating together sharing. Yeah a lot of stuff if before everyone was sitting in their own group. Now they're all mixed and it's not just breaking. The ice people are approaching her and I asked them about them. Religion like about the Jewish people. Like why when the Women Get Married? She started to cover her hair. And why. The guys wearing Vecchi Bob and they explain me a lot. Had you ever ask those questions before to a Jewish? No like most things like it's hard to talk about the Jews. Astor some of the most sensitive questions that a Palestinian citizens of Israel can face like. Do you consider yourself. Israeli or Palestinian. But the question here felt friendly genuinely curious. They didn't judge me like I'm Arabian I'm Muslim. I'm that Notre Dame human that you can talk to me like. There is no difference between us. That was like wait. Where's the racist and all the problems whereas all the prejudice where everybody's getting along here in this hotel what's happening here norms? Even more surprised when they're instagram's stories from inside the hotel start being picked up by Israeli TV. The media saw that we love sharing so so every day was like this reporter is speaking to this person in another reporter speaking to me so when we were filming other people who were like. Hey guys make some noise for channel number Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. At one point one posts a picture on facebook her arm around a woman in a sweatshirt and he job and she tags it a Jew in a Palestinian stuck in the Dan Hotel in Jerusalem as with so much out of hotel corona it goes viral thousands of shares. Thousands of likes did all the popular pages in Israel posted. The post was reposted by a big Israeli TV channel. Comments came from an even wider audience from all over Israel. When a post like this goes mainstream in Israel. You can be sure it will attract some nasty comments. The usual comments would be like. Oh Way once you're out you will send her boy bomb you. Oh now. You're getting along. But later she will throw a stone at you and I'm going through the comments. I can't find one negative comment the usual racism. The trolls the hatred. The separation that I'm used to seeing outside just didn't exist to sure the people here could share a joke or even photo. But how would these new friendships hold up under stress will remember this one day? She was walking back to a room and this guy in front of her collapses. He's look like a Vincent Van Gogh. He's gaunt Pale. Bearded he's a young Orthodox Jew now having an asthma attack on the hallway carpet and should rushes over to help show stops and wonders. Am I allowed to touch him? Like I'm Muslim. Maybe I'm I cannot talk to him I cannot touch him maybe if I helped him he'll be offended so she calls the medics but they have to put on all this protective equipment just to enter the hotel. They need her to step in and I ask them medical what I have to do. Don't let him fall asleep. They tell her. Do you think you saved his life. Actually maybe I don't know but maybe doesn't want anybody to know that to know what that he had an attack that you helped him or both of them I? She made even tell anyone what she'd done. She didn't want to offend them. Then she worried maybe you'd have another attack so she started telling people in this older Jewish nurse told her she done something really great. He told me you can be a doctor not to nurse when she talked to me are you. She confessed to her. That you'd always dreamed of being a nurse not just a hospital janitor and we start this conversation like maybe we can help each other are you should never had a mentor outside. Her family let alone. The Jewish mentor after the BREAK AS ISRAEL TUNES INTO HOTEL CORONA. So we feel like also we. The news that media spotlight becomes the biggest testable face masks have become the new normal as we continue to grapple with the ongoing pandemic. But when did we start wearing masks for our health and safety this week on through line the origins of the n? Ninety five mask and how it became the life saving tool it is today through line from NPR. The podcast where we go back in time to understand the present. Hey we're back with rough translation Gregory Warner and I'm Daniel Estrin by early. April Hotel Corona had been opened less than a month and borrow from his desk behind. The plexiglas could see that the guests. We're getting along but he was worried about Passover. Well that's always holiday family. He was worried that the guests would feel their isolation even more on this holiday. That's all about family. They might get depressed and we wanted to find a solution to that problem to give them opportunity to have a proper Seder but Seder is a lot to figure out. It's family style. Eating not individually wrapped supper trays. How do you keep the food hot during readings and songs that can last well over an hour? And how do you set it? All up in advance before the guests arrive to contaminate the space because once one of them touch anything. It can't go back and did anyone have any crazy ideas. Like like sending waiters with has met suits Note because there there were no one will willing to do that eventually. The hotel management decided to just open up the banquet hall to all the guests and they'd serve the Food and just do the Seder themselves but there was another problem. The young guests were dying to film this for their families back home and for TV. But ultra-orthodox Jews forbid electronics religious holidays the ultra-orthodox the hotel did not want their holy commemoration of the exodus from Egypt to be instagram famous. No I'm tried to reassure them. We're not gonNA take our phones out. We're not going to dress. In a way that will insult them you know. But some of the Ultra Orthodox guests made a request to borrow hotel. Management wasn't demand was the polite request. We want to celebrate traditionally and the young people wants to survey differently. And if you don't mind if it's possible to to To divide it. Please divide the banquet hall. One for the ultra orthodox wonderful the rest in a video posted just before the Seder started. Someone shows the setup. There are the tables on the secular side with all the bottles of Soda and the Little Individual Seder plates and then there's an actual Florida's ceiling wall of which makes a complete separate room for the traditional Seder for the religious people so teaming affair. She got to know him. This wall wasn't a practicality it reminded me of the world that I'm used to before the Reminded me of our default that we prefer separation rather than the compromise. That comes with uniting Noam remembers walking into the room on the secular side and seeing the wall. Oh you're so cute to think that you found something unique here in this hotel. Let's see how this goes so the sun setting about to begin and I talked to one of the people on the religious side. I'm running my man. He sixty six years old. He's not ultra-orthodox. But he's Orthodox guy he says. He remembers coming in with his wife. Gina. She took one look at partition wall. And she tells them can't do like this. I'M GONNA cry. I'm room says young loss of the idea of having divided Seder but if he took down the wall it could spark fight the ultra orthodox could walk out in protest and then the young people might pull out their phones and film. That but just couldn't do this way. Screening understood the quote tells us wife. Give me two minutes. I'm going to move this barrier. It's too big for him to push alone. So he calls over some younger guys and they start to slide the wall when an ultra-orthodox man jumps up. But he's not there to stop them. We'll cuckoo semester tells them. I'm so happy you're moving this and helps them altogether. They pushed that divider back into the corner and then as one room one hundred Navy People. They blessed the wine. The Cedar Begins Aisha and other Muslim guests in the hotel. Are there to celebrating with them. They invite me to sit with them to eat with them. And by the very last night of Passover Aisha sitting at the ultra-orthodox table and it was a great conversation. Like we did his shots shots. Yeah of why long? Not Me them but I enjoyed them like sitting with them not to drink. Of course we do have a couple of video clips taken from the end of the Seder after the prayers when people just couldn't help it they discreetly pulled out their phones and filmed the data. I've seen it on film and I was shocked. They hit a beautiful seder. Burke member's watching this video being struck by different this was from Seder's outside the hotel walls. The government was forbidding people from hosting any guests police set up checkpoints on Passover night to block movement borrow like all Israelis do Seder at home at home with my family. My parents had by themselves and My mother-in-law set alone and they were celebrating together. They were like a small community but like a huge family. Can I ask you a strange question? Do you ever feel jealous that they get to be together and touch each other or be next to each other and you have to give you a sense. Yeah Yep when you see 'em together and you know that they don't have the old old rules and barriers entity that you have now. We have now. I believe that a lot of people in Israel element of India's of that people won't forget this Passover full for a long time While Barak played these videos over and over for his friends one played the experience over and in her head. Trying to make sense of it. I was sitting in my table and watching other people remove barriers. Not me all her life that it was her job to bring people together job. She felt cheated failed. At how mazing. I wasn't the one to remove the barriers. Oh my God I wish things outside could be like this. She wondered what it was in this hotel that allowed people to find common ground without slogans without the UN without can eat pancakes for peace. Is it the fact that Jusin Arabs get the same in the hotel? Same food same terms was that the people were being treated equally worthy. They'd all face down the same that we are realizing. How much of wellbeing of one is the well being of the other? How will I think about this experience? When I go back to the real world we called issue just as she was heading back to the real world. Her brother had just gotten a second. Negative test will go home chain with the family but she's not going back to her old life at her janitor job. This experience has taught her too much a lot of stuff that I didn't know about myself. Like what how smart I am. Her new friends convinced her to enroll in nursing school and they can guide her while her mom always encouraged her to be curious about people. It wasn't until she got stuck in this hotel that translate into real friendship and even opportunity watching these videos from hotel corona. I've been wondering what if a lot? More Israelis went through this experience of being stuck together. You know in a place where the normal rules of society or suspended like with that change Israel and actually a lot more corona hotels have opened but most of them are segregated. Not Mixed like this one. Wow I didn't know that. Do you think it's a good idea to have the separate hotels? No I called the army commander in charge of the quarantine hotels and he told me that there are so many ultra-orthodox Jews who caught the virus. They made special hotels just for them. He says they wouldn't come to mixed hotels. It's easier to convince people to come if they know they'll be with their own kind. Hotel Corona no longer hosts recovering patients. And when we last talked to Barak. He was saying goodbye to the last of those guests when he first opened the doors in started. Assigning roommates is fear then that people from different backgrounds clash but they did not in fact they became friends. I believe that if they will have to spend time in a hotel Jews and Arabs together. Maybe they will everything will be okay which but that's the meaning of being. Israel is that's not the meaning of being Israelis. It's just how humans are. I once interviewed a reality. Tv show producer. Who confessed just how hard it is to get people to fight enough to keep it interesting. He said you have to cast characters and exploited the right moments stoke the conflict because people he says individuals are frustratingly. Good at getting along. That is what barrack discovered but he is also a hotel. Yay and a practical one. He agrees with the Army. Commander that segregated hotels. They're just easier to get people to come to an easier to manage. Yeah of course it's easier although we we we call them. Guests will remain calling them guests but we cannot forget. They're sick it feels. It's unseemly to take whatever magic happened here and try to impose that on the rest of the nation. This is a moment when people are feeling vulnerable deeply uncertain and we have to do the best. We can to make them feel comfortable right. So you don't see this as an opportunity to recreate Isreaeli society no because we are not seen in the love boat or life is not is not a movie. Good luck telling that to the cast of Hotel Corona Today show was produced by Tina Antolini. Our editor is Luke Hausky. So many people listen to this piece in made it better. Thank you to Henry at Chakari. Shocker Danielle chest though Brand Elizabeth sinuous Spackman Robert Krulwich. Karen Duffin Sarah Gonzales. Santa of Jess Jiang Autumn. Barnes Muira Bertrand Tonic and NPR. Middle East editor Larry Caballo thanks. Also to Brigadier General Urine Lardo and Atar Nussbaum the rough translation executive teams. Neil caruth Chris. Turpin de Stinky on your grunted. Our intern is Derek. Arthur Sarah night fact. Check this episode. 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"July fifth. Is Bikini Day in Japan. Most of these sort of. NON official celebratory events. Have a reason that is some sort of play on words. In this case July fifth. Doesn't seem to actually have one of those, so it actually has no reason to exist. I looked into it. A bit I mean Bhai bid I mean about ten minutes once. I didn't find anything in ten minutes I decided that this was not worth my time. The only thing I could come up with or the only thing the internet could come up with for me. Was that July fifth is sort of the beginning of the season in Japan? The beginning of when you can start wearing a bikini to the beach. The thing is these this year. That since July fifth basically rained every day we've hit rainy season so I would also need to check if rainy season and consistent I know what happens around, July. And it sucks if you live in Japan right now. It's hot and then it rains, and it's hot and humid. And sometimes it's hot and humid while it rains. And I being Canadian, who grew up with it's hot, and then it rains, and it immediately cools down. I still now after living in Japan for like twenty years can't get that out of my head that this is not natural that after it rains, it cools off, so I kind of look forward to that, and then it doesn't then I'm like God I live in Japan. anyways on the Internet if you search for Bikini Day, you'll find various websites. Posting lots of pictures usually from twitter. Of Japanese girls, wearing bikinis on Bikini Day on July fifth lot of models and things like that will post a bikini picture. This is a public service announcement. If that's what you're into. You have to wait till next year. Now I mean it's not like you couldn't find Bikini pictures on other days. It's just if you are. That Lazy. You could wait until next year until July fifth and then press a button on twitter search. Bikini Dan. You'll get lots of results. Like fresh ones I don't know I. Guess they probably don't take a picture for Bikini Day. They probably just grab an old bikini picture and post it a lot easier. That's what I would do. I would be. A Lazy. Model. So I would want all the adulation I would want all the people going who he's so beautiful in his bikini. I would want all that and I would want all the money associated with it like people sending me. I would make an only fans and I. Put my button the camera for money. then. But I'm also lazy. And Lazy can be efficient, but it also could be dishonest, so that's something you've got to be aware of. I think I wouldn't be a great bikini model. Not? It's not physical. Let's make that clear as I. Physically! If this was my job, I would put a little more effort into it and I would probably be able to pull it off all right. I mean I don't think I. Have Bikini Body Right now, but I wouldn't be ashamed to take off my shirt. So we have a Bevy of? Corona by stories. Because, it's not gone. Over the last week Japan hit, or Tokyo specifically hit two hundred cases a day for four days, and that's up from for a little while it was down into the double digits. Maybe even they got down to ten a day for a few days. It was really low, and it looked like it was just y'all a little bit more. It'll go away and then it started going up. And last week reported. that. Out of two hundred and some cases eighty three were young men who had all gone out. There's actually a theater. Put on a show in thirty cases came from that, so it's someone in the audience. Maybe had Co.. It was all traced back to this one show. There's actors and actresses have it audience members have it so I was actually think you like what was more likely someone in the audience like? An coughed into the audience and they got it. And then someone went backstage and spread it to the the actors or someone on stage had it. Maybe during or would just talking and shot into the audience. Not like one options better than the other. It just became an interesting thing of sort of physics in what would be more likely. But now we're getting lots of Kovic Stories again and. I was I got several messages that my tone changed near the sort of end of the peak. I DIDN'T WANNA. Talk about corona anymore. But we have a lot of random ones and that's. Okay I'm just sort of reality we have to deal with, and maybe I'm just gonNA. Get more comfortable with it over time. So it's two hundred cases a day for four days. It's down to one hundred nineteen, so it's actually started going down. The last report I read was probably a day or two old now, so maybe a yesterday or the day before they had one hundred nineteen cases in Tokyo, and they keep measuring Tokyo. It's not the whole country because Tokyo is of course going to be epicenter. They do on occasion. Put on the news like a full map of Japan. How many cases are in each prefecture and the one I live in in the one I work in both zero now I'm still taking all the precautions. Zero doesn't mean there are no cases are no reported cases or no cases they've actually found. So I still wear my mask I. IF I hold onto a bar on the train I wash my hands as soon as I get off and I use the hand sanitizer, because that's not you know that's not scarce anymore. An interesting thing that's happening Shinjuku. In Tokyo and Shinjuku. If you get corona virus. And you live in Shinjuku. The government local government will give you one hundred thousand yen, and they're calling it condolence money. The weird thing is in Shinjuku. They have more cases and less residence than elsewhere in Japan. So basically you have a smaller population that seems to have more cases of corona virus than anywhere else, and the government's like Oh that's so sad. Let's give them some money. The reason that this has become sort of the new epicenter. Is for exactly the same reason is those young men were getting. It is that this is where all the bars and hostess bars and nightlife is in Japan. So they're thinking anyone who lives in that area. Other people are coming there who have corona virus and bring it to this place and sort of leave behind his leave, and then it stays in this area. But. Other residents of Tokyo are complaining saying it's not fair, and it's weird that you're giving a place where they seem to be getting more coronavirus than anyone else one hundred thousand, and then not giving it to anyone else. As for. Suspicious spikes and weird things. Okinawa has some American military base and we all know America's still going crazy. They still have more cases than anyone else. It still basically peak pandemic and yet they seem to be acting like it's not. That's an interesting. Side Note. Because it's a military base full of American soldiers. The actual numbers are sort of classified, so they're not allowed to say like. The whole base has been decimated by corona virus. Because that would essentially say oh, you know potential terrorists or threats were not protected right now. Everyone's in bed with krona virus news articles have stated dozens of cases. A large number of cases, so they can't be specific, so that's the information they're getting. From people in the area, and like sorta leaks that have gone out there estimating up to sixty cases now this matches Tokyo for the same day that that newspaper article went out. So one military base. Matched the city of Tokyo for the number of cases. then. It was reported that they were thirty two cases up the next day, so I don't know why they gave you that one because they said we have an undetermined number, but plus thirty two the next day, and that puts them over ninety, which actually means this one base in Okinawa ended up having more cases than Tokyo in the same day. America. You know they're really killing it with Corona, and they've imbued that upon their soldiers, so whatever the soldiers are doing. They're not being safe about I bet. The soldiers aren't wearing masks. I bet they're not being forced to wash their hands and Hanson hand sanitizer all the time. And if you know the image holds. Like these are sort of more conservative people, there sort of trump followers, and they believe what trump says. They are less likely to protect themselves. And that would explain why. Corona virus is now decimating this Okinawan base. The weird side note is people in Okinawa. They hate these military bases. They don't want them there. They think it sort of makes them a target. I think it brings war to essentially trying to be a peaceful area. So I. Don't know if they're happy about it I. Think what they're worried about. IS PEOPLE COMING OFF BASE AND SPREADING CORONA VIRUS? Because if they have that many cases, it's obviously they're not taking care of themselves if they're not taking care of themselves, they're not going to be worried about other people. Further Corona Virus News. I can't get away from it. That's actually been all the news this week. So honestly it is odd facts about corona virus sort of things that are happening because of it. you will remember I. Think was last. I think it was two weeks ago. I talked about I installed. Coca, which is an APP contact tracing out for Japan and it had problems when it was first released because it wasn't doing his job. And the point is, people have downloaded and use it. and the majority of people's asked me like sixty percent seventy percent, maybe seventy five percent for it to be actually effective. Promise the APP doesn't work. So it's been. It's been suspended again. There was a bug with the input information. So. If I get corona buyers, I can track the disease. I'm given a number. I'm supposed to put that number into the APP and then. That number would then register with anyone who's had contact with me, but it's that number is separate from everything else, so it's the ideas that keep my personal information private, but then people who've been in contact with me. You can then take care of themselves and get themselves checked. It apparently does not recognize that number, so no alert ever went out so even if I got corona virus, and I followed all the steps, and I put in my number. no-one be alerted. Because didn't actually recognize the input so. This is garbage now. I downloaded it and I tried to get other people to download it because you know the whole point is a majority of people have to have it, but even if you downloaded apparently doesn't do anything so. At that point who cares? There were only six point eight million downloads, and again in the country, one hundred thirty two million people. That's not that many. There's a motorcycle going outside. The kid next door. All Right! He got a new motorcycle awhile ago. He's very excited about it. He will spend time just revving the engine. He just wants to hear that sweet noise of the motorcycle. Okay call me ninety nine. Comma cat is a big collection. I only ever looked at it on the Internet for pictures of girls and costly. Being very honest about that is the only bit that interest me, but what? It really is a selling comics, I would make comics at home and I would sell them. My original comics rip comics, and there was kind of like a. it's kind of like a blind eye. If you sell your rip-off comic, so let's say I'm the creative Nado toe and you create your. Ship, comic and you sell it at copycat. There is actually very good chance I won't say anything or I will come after you legally because it's kind of understood, that says what happens there in his for young artists, new artists to get their workout, and you know where you can buy really weird creepy stuff. It is also where you can buy really good stuff, and there's a lot of girls wearing not very much closed because their cost playing girls who don't wear a lot of close. Not that that's the part you should focus on. Comic Ninety nine has been of course canceled. And it will be. They're going to wait until golden week twenty twenty one. That's next May. And that's when they're going to have it. They're going to have a virtual version, but again the virtual version. No one really knows what that means, and you can't sell physical copies. The whole point is I could go there by physical copy of comic and take it home and actually read it. It's not going to be the same selling that over the Internet. So that's going to be hard for people who actually do make some money off, comment. Scary result of Corona virus and the whole lockdown and people being scared and quite reasonably I'm not actually saying this is a wrong idea. It's just a scary consequence. People have been not vaccinating their kids because the coronavirus. It's not because of coronavirus because they're like. I don't WanNa. Take my kid to a clinic or other sick people who might have corona virus, and then we all get corona virus. This the last couple of months. Since. Vaccination is mandatory in Japan. You actually have to legally. You have to vaccinate your kids. You can't not vaccinate your kids. Because their fear of infection, thirty three percent of the people didn't vaccinate now. That's not to say. They're opposed to vaccination facts, most Japanese people because it's a legal requirement because it's a sort of a normal thing, they don't even think about it. You just vaccinate your kids. This is an interesting case for anti vaccines because they say it causes autism. Causes all these kinds of problems. If that were true, you would have a significant spike of autism and things like that in Japan compared to America, which is not the case. they do have more cases of autism compared to previous sort of generations, but that's because of diagnosis so now dislike corona virus. If you test for it, and you know what to test for, you get more results. So. That's why the number of autism cases has been going up in years. Because now they can recognize autism better so if you ever meet an anti vaccine taxis. Japan is a case study. Ninety, nine, maybe even one hundred percent of the people here, certainly anyone born here has been vaccinated and check the cases of autism. Seventeen percent of the thirty three percent have already rebooked, so it's not that there were refusing to vaccinate. They're just like I'm going to wait. Until everything calms down and sixteen percent are still waiting until basically coronavirus goes away. The scary bit is those diseases that you vaccinate four. The come back because I know. An anti vaccines took hold in America. You saw a resurgence of diseases that were essentially gone like measles and stuff They came back. So that's terrifying. The total side issue in Mongolia there was a couple that eight deliver of some author or something that they caught, and they got the black plague, so that could come back, and that was last year, but it's actually happened more than once in Mongolia since then so. Some most look forward to I, guess. I don't know. The Olympics also heavily affected by Corona virus have started issuing refunds over the delay, so if you bought tickets to the Olympics you can get your money back now. Those. Tickets will still be good if you hold onto them. You can still go to the Olympics when they happen. Should, they happen. That's actually the thing. But if you hold on your ticket, it's still good. It's not going to get canceled or change. You have to buy it again. Just have to keep your ticket and you'll be able to go to the event. The schedule is staying. Basically, the same is because it's x amount of months later. That's GONNA. Make it very difficult for people who were traveling to Japan. To actually travel so if that's the situation, you can get your money back so at least no one's getting ripped off. Actually kind of was happy about that. What? I was actually kind of happy about that. Four point four eight million tickets were sold for the Olympics. And Eighty percents of the venues they were going to use. Have Been Re secured so. One of the stories did a couple weeks ago. Maybe even a month ago was how all the venues and stuff with the Olympics like those are all contracts, and all those contracts expires. If they wanted to Redo the Olympics, they had to renegotiate all those contracts pretty much. All of it has already been secured again. I think those venues want the Olympics as much as the Olympics WanNa. Go there so I don't. For I don't think it would be that big a deal, but still there's twenty percent, and maybe the problem is. They already had other stuff booked that they're still going to go through with. And the government in Japan, he's making an interesting decision by promoting travel. We missed cherry blossom season. And we missed golden week because of Krona virus so golden week is a week long holiday. It's a bunch of national holidays, but people get the whole week off in general, and it is one of the prime time travel I usually don't travel them because the roads are congested, it's so busy. It's just not fun and every tourist places full. This is led to a promotional campaign. Let me saying. Let's travel in Japan. Let's revisit Japan. Let's get to know Japan because one of the things they're saying is that domestic travel is going to reinvigorate the economy? But the people who live in these areas don't want people traveling there, so there are a couple of places, is co people have been interviewed line? And what they said was look my prefecture. My town had zero corona virus cases. We don't want people from Tokyo bringing it here now. So it's a nice idea to travel and stuff, but at the end of the day. Krona virus is still a thing, and if people start traveling so I, get on the on the train. I have grown virus is spread it to everyone in the car of the train, and then we all get off into this town. We all spread out. Yeah, you're looking at like a new of corona virus. Is One of the arguments again. America's opening up states and stuff not having quarantine. There's also a campaign for fifty percents off Shinkansen Tickets Shinkansen bullet train in Japan. I mean that would be nice again if you want to travel, but. You honestly probably should not travel. Until the coronavirus is a thing of the past. But there may be a solution. So I mentioned a supercomputer. Japan now has the fastest supercomputer in the world. And they said this is the computer to solve this problem, so it said. How do we stop the corona virus spreading and they were talking about train specifically. In, the supercomputer said you have to open. The windows have less people on the train. And this will increase. Ventilation. So you can't have too many people on the train because that actually blocks the air moving around, but without ventilation it means you actually have less problems. If you, open the windows and have fifty percent people in the car on the train. That will be two to three times more ventilation. And that will help stop transmission. Duh. I. Mean honestly if you said Hey Peter. We're going to give you the same amount of money. We paid for the electricity for this stupid machine. How would you stop the virus on a train? I would say put less people on the train and opened the windows. Yeah. We know that the problem is in the rain. You can't open the windows because we actually just had a couple of really heavy rain days. If you open the windows, you wouldn't be able to stand anywhere close to the windows, or you could just get wet. That is an option. and the idea of packing people in the train is great, except that's the problem is the whole point of the trains and Japan is. They're packed full of people. It's one of these efficient systems. It's no one likes it. I hate being packed on trade just like anyone else, but that's just the reality so way to go supercomputer. You came up with an answer. That's not gonNA work. Let's get into some not corona virus news I did try to find as much non corona virus stuff. Is I could? There was a girl standing on the street. She's sixteen years old I'm GonNa assume she's cute. Man Walks up and grabs, but and she was waiting for a mom or mom comes up, and the girl says that do gramma, but the mom. Grabs, the Guy Ts twenty five year old office worker. and. She holds him there until the police arrive. So I don't know of this. Mom was particularly hard core and strong, or this guy was particularly weak, but either way this did not work out for that guy, and it's weirdly satisfying to have a mom. Just take down at twenty five year old, Dude. A former host decided that since his day job or his night job had been devastated by coronavirus. No one was coming to the club anymore that he he's GonNa Start Committing fraud. So he went to an Old Lady's House and he pretended to be a member of a guarantor association, and there's one is in her eighties. and. He got her Bancard, and then he went to the bank and withdrew. Two million. The woman immediately after he left called the police, so she actually let the fraud happen so that he could actually be arrested for a crime. Because you're saying this guy's impersonating a Garin tour and might be a lesser crime. The best part of the story that was reasoning was. She called the police and said he has strange hair for such an association. So he still had his host club hair which again if you don't come from Japan live Japan have never been in Japan and it's a hard thing to imagine you just have to imagine large. Forward facing spiky hair with tons of product in it. which does give off a very very specific image? Which? Someone from a guarantors association probably would not have so the woman was was dead on. She's eighty years old and she's like that guy with that hair does not work for a guarantors association. I'M GONNA. Let them rip me off and call the cops and get this taken care of, and she did so that satisfying. Survey since got to have a little survey and every now and then. Twenty to thirty year, old Japanese people sleep eight hours a day, which is forty five fifty minutes longer than ten years. They're saying that men from twenty to thirty four sleeping seven hours and fifty five minutes a night, which is up from two thousand five, which was seven hours and eleven minutes women. Are Sleeping seven hours and fifty nine minutes a night, which is up from seven hours and nineteen minutes, so women on average sleeping four to five minutes longer than men in Japan if they're in their twenties thirties. They're saying that this is because people are more likely to stay home. They're enjoying activities at home. And the saying a lot of people fall asleep while playing with their smartphone so either on their phone, and then they fall asleep because they're already in bed. I don't know if that's good or bad like I've heard all this stuff about you know smartphones before bed or bad, and you don't sleep as well, but if people are getting like an hour, more sleep. That can't be too bad, right? But talking about sleep. S Morris. Something that I do not understand. 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Juan Corona aka The Machete Killer

Happy Hour Gets Weird

36:41 min | 6 months ago

Juan Corona aka The Machete Killer

"Are you that Weirdo? Who always brings up a true crime case during Happy Hour? We'll good. This is a podcast for you. Welcome to happy. Hour gets weird. Hello friend hi IT'S BEEN. I feel like it's been such a long time and it's only two days later. I know recording pushback a couple days because life happens. Life happens so hi there welcome. I'm Cathy and I'm tiffany. See It's been two days and we forgot Arif everything. We forgot our names. We've forgotten how to do this. Where am I what podcasts? This is happy hour gets weird and we are a a weekly podcast and we talk about weird topics and drink drinks while we do it. Yeah this week. We ARE DRINKING BLOOD. Orange Margaritas because it's national Margarita. Day on Saturday we wanted to be festive and it citrus season in California and who doesn't love the color of a blood orange. She's drinks are beautiful most importantly delicious and they get the job done as far as buzz goes yes. They're great yes. Make these you'll impress any person that comes over to your house. Most definitely and we will have our recipe and beautiful drink picture on our instagram. Happy hour gets weird pod. Yup also twitter. Please find us on twitter and instagram. We're very new to twitter. So we're still trying to figure all the stuff out tweets tweeting going on the. Rt's that good. Yeah so we'll have a picture and the recipe on our social media and This week we're getting into a true crime case. Yes we are. As a matter of fact. We're actually covering our very first heavy hitter. If you will were doing serial killer this week. Yes and it's a local case. Yeah we decided to start our Ciro. Our heavy hitter episode or serial killer APP Code with a local Fr- for US local. Which is the Uber Center area in Northern California? Yes So do you draw. Should you address? Let's just jump right in. We will get right to it this week. First and foremost I'm going to cite my sources we use the deviation diaries blog which is a local blog that we both really appreciate. We chose this as a main source because she is local and she devoted a lot of time in research to the case that we're doing today She did a great job and paid special attention to the victims. Yeah so I just WanNa give them a shout out. Please check them out. I also read an article from Appeal Democrat called Juan Corona crime of the century and an article from Thought Co Dot Com called Juan Corona. The machete murderer also. I looked at her. Radford University website page and I always kind of double check. Time-line information from wikipedia. So those are my sources. Okay on this episode. We're covering a lesser known case. Unless you were local to this area. You probably haven't heard of it. The case was covered pretty heavily at the time but it is at one that is really talked about today on. True crime shows or podcasts. For that matter. Have you seen it covered anywhere? No me neither. I wanted to cover this story. Not In order to bring attention to the murderer but to remember that every type of victim matters yes today we are covering the serial killer one corona also known as the machete killer really. I didn't know he was known as the machete killer. But like I said it's not really covered so machete killer. I mean as far as serial killer nicknames. Go It's a pretty good one. It has a pretty good. Was it dubbed by the media or by? Did he give himself a nickname? No he didn't give himself unlike named Dick God okay so Rossetti killer off his face okay. Let's get into okay. One Corona was born in Mexico on February seventh. Nineteen thirty two. He had nine siblings and three older half siblings on his father's side. Unfortunately there isn't much information known about crony earlier's we even reached out to the deviation. Diaries blog thinking maybe she had picked up on something that we didn't find in our research but I don't really think there's much other than he had a typical childhood and Mexico for the time. Yeah ANA is. She is an advocate for the victims. And she's a met. Some of the remaining family members of the of one kerns victims and people that knew him knew the family and she said that by all accounts. It was a pretty average normal family normal childhood. They were all pretty nice. Yeah his older half brother. Nabi Dodd migrated to California in nineteen forty four. There were many jobs open during world. War Two that brought in immigrants from Mexico in Nineteen fifty at age sixteen one Kiruna. Faldo's followed his brother to California illegally. He worked on farms around the Sacramento Valley area and attended night school to improve his English. By real go getter. He was busy. I mean sixteen. He was working going to school. By nineteen fifty three corona had moved to Yuba City on December twenty fourth nineteen fifty five a levee along the feather river broke. Yuba city endured devastating flooding. Ninety percent of the town and surrounding farmland and ranches were flooded. Thirty eight people died. Many of those people were undocumented. Workers trying to fix the levy damage. Oh no hundreds of people had to be rescued. Corona was traumatized this event and had a complete mental breakdown. This was a really pivotal point in his life. This whole incident so he was twenty three years old and it was a pivotal point in his life. I'm assuming he had to see quite a bit of fled victims did he. Was He part of the cleanup crew? You know I don't believe he was it. Didn't it didn't say that. He was but corona. Like I said was really traumatized by this. And according to some sources he had always had a fear of water oh okay and then he ended up moving somewhere that is literally surrounded by waters and Levy. Yes we're floods are known to happen after. The flood corona began to have vivid hallucinations and believed that he was seeing the ghosts of former residents so he believed that the he thought that the surviving Yuba city residents were ghosts. Weird okay so sounds like a psychotic break of some sort yes. He was elucidating seeing ghosts. And then when an actual living person we talked to him it would freak him out he he like. I said he had a total breakdown. Whoa okay in January of Nineteen fifty-six so very shortly after the flood navy dod had corona committed to a psychiatric hospital in Auburn. Wow I didn't know that okay. And he was really unhinged. They'RE IN AUBURN. Corona was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic. Right well this is fifty six. So was he paranoid schizophrenic. Or was that the catch all for any sort of mental illness right so I mean but look. I think schizophrenia does sat on early twenties yet and he has a twenty page. Or if you do have schizophrenia. A usually sets in at at at the age that he was okay. So this might have actually been in accurate diagnosis right. Okay Hallucinations Audio and visual. Assuming yes okay all right interesting. Yeah as his treatment. Kerner received electric shock treatments which was typical of the time as well. That's not good for anybody. No especially not twenty three treatments over a three-month period after the twenty three electric shock treatments. The hospital found him cured and deported him back to Mexico. Oh my Lanta okay. I'm well yeah. It's pretty intense. Yeah later that year one kronor returned to California legally in nineteen fifty nine. He married a woman named Gloria Marino and they had four daughters. Krona was considered a hard worker. Although he was known to have rage issues right well twenty-three electric shock treatments. I'm not even sure if I wouldn't have to use. That's yeah and that's also I guess a little bit of foreshadowing right. Bill saw something there in one thousand nine hundred sixty two. He was licensed as a labor contractor and hired workers for local fruit ranches in early. Nineteen seventy corona had another mental break which resulted in him briefly. Being hospitalized again all right so let me just break that down so basically the farmers and ranchers would come to Juan Corona and say. Hey I need X. amount of workers for my farm. Can you round up fifteen men that could work the orchards dot? Yes what he did for job. Yes okay and then he had another mental breakdown. Yes in early. Nineteen seventy okay. A couple of months later after coronas mental break. A young man named Jose. Raya was attacked in the restroom of not novedades cafe now known as the Silver Dollar Saloon. Yeah and he was. There was a man he was there and he was attacked in the restroom. Yes he was attacked with a machete and nearly scalped. Oh Sh eight rare didn't see his attacker but sued. Avi Dodd and won the case for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I would assume him. Navidad sold all of his property and fled to Mexico to avoid paying restitution to so real and heart. Yeah that's fucked up on May Nineteenth Nineteen seventy-one a farmer named Goro. Kagi hero found a large fresh hole in his Peach Orchard. Fresh holes never a good sign. You find fresh whole you. Just call the police. Nine one one. I have a fresh whole. It's not a good sign to be inspected. None of the employees that Kagi hero questioned knew what the purpose of the whole us. Wait so it was just to clarify so I can have a picture in my mind now. Was it like a whole or was it a covered freshly covered up hole? I'm getting there. Oh okay later that night. Kogi hero return to the site to find that the whole was now filled So empty will morning filled hole by night. He called the sheriff. The Sutter County sheriff. At the time was Roy Whitaker. He was thirty one years old. And the youngest sheriff in the state at the time just going to say. That's a very young sheriff. Yeah a body was found in the whole as you typically. Yes find in holes. No surprise there. The victim's shirt was lifted and his penis was exposed. Wait what yeah. His shirt was like the there was like it was raised up above his torso. Yes okay the body was later identified as a transient laborer named Kenneth. Whitaker bizarre that he shared the same last name with a share of. Yeah there was no relation and I had a double check this because I thought that there was a Typo okay because they both have the same last name and then later when I was reading a separate article. They commented on a coincidence. It's very strange. A few days later a body was discovered on the nearby Sullivan ranch. Okay pretty popular ranch in this area. Another random hole was found and having heard the news about the body on Keg Heroes Property. They immediately called law enforcement. The bodies quickly added up. The victims were hacked beaten and usually nude from the waist down interesting twist one had been shot and one had been stabbed with a smaller knife. The men had been sodomized and murdered. The victims were considered drifters some recalled seeing a few of the victims sleeping on park benches near Novedades cafe. Okay some were farm workers but usually only had jobs for small periods of time. I'm sure because of these victims. Life circumstances their murderer consider them easy prey right just like sex workers exactly a runaways or anybody. Who's people who live on the fringes? Yes and anybody without any sort of attachment. They would notice them missing right immediately. Right along with the mutilated bodies. Police found several receipts signed by one corona. Like don't fucking through your garbage away. Maybe he was autographing fucking asshole so ridiculous is like just in case you wanted to so stupid just in case you had any questions about who committed this murder. Let me sign my phone number. In case we on May Twenty six and nineteen seventy-one law enforcement armed with a search warrant searched the home of corona some of the evidence found at their corona residents included a blood-stained club a pistol digging material grocery receipts that matched those found on the bodies and Eighteen Inch Machete and a ledger with thirty four males names and dates at this time. The Body Count was twelve two days later it was twenty. Oh no the body count rose to twenty five and the search for Coronas. Victims was officially called off. The orchards would need to be heavily. Watered and detectives wouldn't it be able to access them to properly search for much longer? Let's Kinda fucked up. One Corona had killed twenty five men and at the time was America's most prolific serial killer. And this is nine hundred seventy seven nope seventy two seventy two. Oh Shit I was way ahead it. Yeah the following year Dean. Choral beat him. Piranhas first trial was September of Nineteen. Seventy two in Fairfield. The defense was granted. A change of venue. Okay Okay I was just GONNA ask. Why was in Fairfield Yeah that makes sense. Yeah the first trial was for the lack of a better term. A total shit show prosecutors mishandled or lost evidence forensics ran late krona changed defense attorneys late in the game and went with a man named Richard Hawk. Hawk decided to throw out the former attorneys defense of innocence by reason of insanity which seems like a logical defense right. He had been hospitalized twice. He had a record of hospitalization. He was a nice nosed paranoid schizophrenic. He'd had to mental breakdowns that we know of. Yeah document setting precedent for seems like a logical a logical defense but Hawkeye decided to. Here's the thing though. Also I feel like if you would murdering people and your defense was insanity. Would you hide the bodies you wouldn't know between the difference between right and wrong is an insane person? I feel like out the window. Had the bodies I am not saying that corona didn't know what he was doing I believe the one krona knew exactly what he was doing. What I'm saying is is if you were his attorney. It seems like that would be the obvious defense that you would use just poked two thousand holes in his defense then the and I'm like no but then you could say obviously he's insane. He basically autographed the bodies. No fucking person would do that. No not insane stupid. I'm just saying he could've worked right. It seems logical to use it but hawk decided to throw out all of that. Okay he also never even made mention of corona schizophrenia during the trial and called no witnesses really and I will say. Maybe it's because this attorney took on the case in return for the exclusive literary and dramatic rights to Coronas life story that was the payment. The payment was coronas life story. Okay that is a conflict of interest for sure. Doesn't it seem like it? Yeah it's a bizarre. It's weird are you allowed to. Actually I feel like set your case up Walker and his case up for appeal later down the road. Well there's a little foreshadowing of or you a job. Cassie the presiding judge was disappointed in the trial proceedings. He made he made it known the whole time because like I said the whole trial was kind of out of control right. During the trial krona also suffered two consecutive heart attacks which further delayed the trial. This whole thing was insane. Oh yeah it's crazy. Yeah finally on January nineteen seventy-three one corona was found guilty and sentenced to twenty five consecutive life sentences. Okay I also want to note that during this trial. California had abolished the death penalty The nineteen seventies what is now referred to as the Golden Age of serial killers? Probably wasn't the best time to do now. Absolutely not nineteen seventies were the golden age of serial killers. Now we're in a very different time. Where the golden age of mass murderers but shooters mass shooters yeah. It's just ironic. That was the Times ironic that they chose to do that. In nineteen seventy eight corona was granted a retrial as his first attorney was ruled incompetent. So Hawk was determined incompetent. Which yet sounds like he just wanted a book deal and was like ye-ye-yeah Mr Corona whatever. We're going to get through this child but I have the rights to hear Your Life Story. I don't even know how that's I. Loud God leave it to a sleazy lawyer to like have the are being mean to this lawyer. Why he's a lawyer. I don't care but like have it leave it to a lawyer. It's typical lawyer to be like. Oh by the way I'm going to represent you for your life story you're going to be in prison and I'm GonNa make a million bucks on your life story which he clearly fucking didn't because he didn't do shit with this story well yeah He. He was a crap biographer because we have no idea of corona's childhood background so Shit Shit Job on that trial shit job of owning. Somebody's life story. Yeah basically yeah. Corona's new attorney at his second trial called some fifty witnesses and the defense attributed the murders to coronas. Now deceased brother Nabi Dod so so they blamed it on Navy Dot yes who was dead at the time of the second trial. Okay interesting it is interesting and I wouldn't be surprised if Nabi dot had something to do with it just because the first attack did take place at his restaurant if he had to have known who or what that whole situation was about. Well I don't know it depends because you and I both been in the silver dollar multiple times and it just depends on if the layout is the same because right now where the restrooms are. It's like you can see who like the bathrooms are down a hallway and you can see who's going into the restrooms you know you're just kind of depends on what the lay of the restaurant was and if the bathroom was secluded and maybe there was a possibility that nobody saw who it was. But I mean I would notice a man holding machete covered in blood. Coming out of a restroom yes or just notice a machete general. That's a large weapon. It's not a tiny little knife in somebody's pocket. Yeah you're right but maybe you could hide it in your in your coat the machete coat your trenchcoat. Yes maybe just seems suspicious and I wouldn't be surprised if navy dot at least knew about what was going on right. The prosecution's main witness was Mexican consulate. Who had met with corona while he was in jail he claimed corona told him. Yes I did it but I am a sick man and a sick man can't be judged by the same standards as other men. But the Coronas Attorney countered this claiming that Corona had not actually said. Yes I did it but a hypothetical if I did it right. The Prosecution also dismissed Navy Dad's involvement because there was no evidence he was even in the country at the time because remember he had fled to Mexico right after the lawsuit. Yes although he could have come and gone he could have been there for some of it. We just don't really know I mean for all we know he could have planted the receipt on the bodies but he was out of the country for at least some of the crimes okay. The trial took seven months but the outcome was the same corona was found guilty again right because he did it because he did it. Corona served his sentence in Corcoran state. Prison Corona was attacked in prison and blinded. And what I really. Wow that's weird that's intense. Yeah in two thousand sixteen at his last parole hearing. He finally admitted to killing some of the men but claimed it was because they were trespassing. He was Abbot. Why were their penises? L. Yeah he never really admitted to his crimes fully and he also was known to refer to the men as why knows as a way of dismissing the magnitude of his crime riot he just kind of after it while they were y knows who cares. Yeah well we care like fucked up and he never really admitted his true crimes. Although it they were clearly sexually motivated crimes right. Well I think okay so the only thing maybe I do know about the case was I think. Natividad wasn't was he homosexual. Yes Dodd was Natividad Native Dad also known as an Avi Dodd Navidad. Sorry was homosexual. Okay that's what I thought. On on one of the victims there was what they called homosexual literature. I'm assuming it was a magazine probably a Porno Pornographic magazine. Yes found on one of the victims. I'm probably was coronas since he I guess was just bearing his garbage with the bodies. I don't think that if he picked somebody up on the side of the road they would have just had a porno MAG pocket. Here's a theory. What if lured them there with a pornographic magazine? He could have done that. So the prevailing theory based on the evidence was that Corona would dig a hole in advance. Pick his victim sexually assault and then stabbed them to death. He never fully said what happened. I it is frustrating to me that there's so little known about his early life And exactly what happened during the murderers because he never fully admitted to it? But it's a different sort of an attitude with this crime that a lot of serial killers that we see because usually serial killers that we see. We'll talk about their crimes. After they're caught and embellish on their stories even make their stories sound even worse. Pretty much every serial killer that I can think of has done that though claim that they were possessed by a demon like son of Sam or there say that they were cannibals when they really were all there say that they have higher numbers. And they really. Did you know what actually want? Crony sounds a lot like Ted Bundy to me. Ted Bundy really is like we all know that you are disquiet quit stop. Yes the excuses. I mean it sounds like one. Crony used his mental illness as an excuse he didn't tell the full scope of his crimes. Like Ted Bundy did not tell the full scope of his crimes. Hey tried to act like. He didn't do all the horrific things that he did. Yeah and the only reason we know that because of the frenzy work that was done on his victims remains. Yeah and at the time in the seventies the same kind of friends at court couldn't be done and that's probably why we don't know any more details. Yeah so I feel like this. One Corona is just your average piece of Shit serial killer. I WANNA take responsibility. Just like he was objectify his victims and he definitely used his mental illness. He definitely blamed his mental illness for why he did the things that he did. Just because you suffer from a mental illness doesn't mean that you would do these things no absolutely not mental. Illness does not make you a murderer. No and that's basically what he was trying to claim which is total bullshit. Yeah in fucked up. He just didn't WanNa take responsibility. Just did not want to take responsibility and I think it may be that he didn't want to admit that he was attracted him in. I Dunno yes all right. So let's get back to his victims. The twenty five victims of Juan Corona were honored in two separate memorials. One at Saint Isidor Church and one Yuba city high school's football field. A woman named Judy Freeman tried to fundraise for a memorial marker for the fourteen men who were buried together. I'm assuming they were not claimed and Chicago. Funeral supplier heard the story and offered him marker free of cost. Oh that's nice. The community was kind of mixed honestly. Some people were incredibly saddened by it other than the fact that it was a bad mark on the town right because the victims were transient while others were obviously devastated. By the fact that this happened to people who were basically guests of the community If you're interested in learning more about this case please visit the deviation. Diaries the blog that we mentioned at the top of the show. She has a lot of information about this case as well as other crimes in the Yuba Sutter area. Yeah she her. Name's Anna and she actually is a forensic anthropology student at our local college Yeah and she seems like a pretty cool chick. She's great at research and She does cover a lot of other cases and she just is Huzzah thirst for knowledge when it comes to true crime in this case as with any case. I hope he always remember the victims. I these twenty five men and also the nine identified names on one Coronas Ledger so I am going to read the names of the recovered victims of this six week. Murder Spree John Smallwood Sickert bearman Mark Shields. Joke Harry Wu Raymond Mucci Kenneth would occur melford sample Charles Fleming John Luka Warren Kelly Donald Smith William Camp Elbert Riley Paul Allen Clarence Hawking James Howard Edward Cup Albert Hayes. John Jackson Lloyd Wendell and Joseph Mc are those are ages some of them. Some of them have their ages. Yeah Okay so these were not young men Oh Wow these were older men older men. That probably couldn't defend themselves against him because he was younger. Actually that is surprising to me. I thought they were young men. Wow these men were from their forties into the early sixties. Yeah wow that is such an interesting layer to his victimology. Yeah it is interesting yes sad. It is sad yes. We'll post pictures of his ledger. Okay cages yeah and a few other pictures so disturbing and so scary and can you believe that all of these things would go on without somebody noticing. This is a small community. It's chilling while I'm Jay. This sheer amount of people that are needed during a harvest. It is very bizarre that someone wouldn't see. Juan Corona digging holes. Wouldn't see people did mention that. They saw at least a couple of the victims in his truck. So people did see that but they didn't see the violence or the digging or the covering up the crime. I'm assuming that happened at night. Then when the our orchards are empty. Yes I've been to orchard. Bonfires were you. You know that was like are Stella Partying God. Could you imagine that was all we needed to? Could you imagine stumbling upon that you're cater? No fucking traumatizing. Yeah I mean and would I have the peace of mind to recognize a grave freshly dug empty grave at a KEG ORCHARD? Party no probably not I mean I it just so weird. I guess there's you know it's sad it's a sad case and it's it is a little frustrating that we don't have more details on it but I think at the time they felt like they had enough details. Well for me who? I am as a person even though I like. I'm kind of like that. I like the details but then I don't like the details like I want to know the details of person. I do looks at the crime scene photos like and then I'm like. Oh God why did I do that? Why did I fucking do that? But I do it every time like. I'm just kind of person who wants details. I just like to know more about early. Childhood NATO 'cause I'm interested in nature versus nurture kind of thing and we don't have that information. I'm also interested to know his whole entire process. Just because that is the name might reflect on a trauma that he had as a child. Well and the psychology behind exact reason why someone ends up being a serial killer is so fascinating and as we don't know his process and we because we don't we don't know really his background. Yeah we know. He had some mental breakdowns but like people have mental breakdowns. Everyday they don't turn into Sexual Sadist serial killers. Yes and this is at a time when the concept of a serial killer was new When the concept of the psychology of a serial killer was very new. So it's not surprising that we don't have that information because I think that people didn't think they needed it. They caught him. He was the bad guy. They put them away case closed case closed. But if we can't learn from these the broken mind of a serial killer yeah. That's the only thing that we can gain from. These horrible crimes is some sort of knowledge that can help us. Prevent them from happening in the future. Exactly and I think that's why I'm so fascinated with just it's just with the psychology behind zero killer. And what makes them tick and why they do what they do. And they're they're process and you know you know all the different types of serial killers fascinating like you know you have a sexually motivated zero killer. And then you have a what rage. Motiv- motivated serial killer. I mean you just the differences and the reasons why they're different and the reasons why they do what they do in the first place is just so fascinating to me and that that does make this case in very frustrating. Because there's so many unanswered unanswered questions. Which is is frustrating for me. It's frustrating but it's still. It's still an interesting case. There's still a lot there even with all the stuff that we don't know. Oh Man. I just love to read those police reports. So maybe they're online. I mean maybe we should look for them to pretty interesting case that I don't think a lot of people know about I haven't really seen any I haven't either shows or heard any other than deviation diaries. I haven't really read any like dedicated. Blogs or shows Doan Curran victims. Same and I hope that in doing this we just remember that every type of victim matters. Yeah absolutely and not just victims that we see on TV just the white ladies. Yeah everybody all of the victims matter. Yeah absolutely there's so many cases that don't get media coverage Because they aren't you know the the victims of minority in some way or another and you know sometimes media coverage really helps bring out tips and exactly advocates salt. The squeaky wheel gets the grease or. It's like Oh hey wait a minute. I've seen that person or I know that I I know that person or that. That description kind sounds familiar to me or or something like that so All right well that is the R. I zero killer episode. And he was a pretty pretty big deal in the seventies before Dean Coral. I mean he he he wa- It was like a big deal. Yeah and then. D. Was the most prolific serial killer when he was found and his ledger had thirty. Four names on it. Yes so those So if that's accurate he even had more victims than gay. See Right I think Casey had thirty three. Yeah so if his ledger is accurate. Then he was the most prolific serial killer until the eighties right. And if you know Dean. Coral didn't decide to rear his ugly head at the time that he did. Then you know maybe the other nine victims or eleven victims would have been would have been found. I know it has something to do with the Cycle of the Orchard Right. They had to start a heavy water. They couldn't search for for victims any longer. I'm almost wondering if there's somewhere else because I feel like by something would have I agree. I oh my Gosh. We're in the Like you're really mind because I was just thinking. Maybe he switched his burial sites or because they're something would have popped up in the last thirty years. I agree forty years now. Jeez fifty years old my goodness all right while all right. Let's let's end that. Wrap it up. Thank you for tuning in this week. Guys to our heavy hitter definitely not as light hearted as our typical episodes. But we appreciate you listening. Yeah Yeah sometimes. True crime can be a little rough for us to talk about just because we want to be sensitive to the heavy topic obviously hymns and to the victims families and it's somewhat of a sensitive topic so but I do find true crime. It's interesting and we will be doing more. True crime definitely In the futures and both one hundred percent finished our delicious `Blanche Margaritas. They were fantastic. And we're actually out and I'm very upset about it. Oh man we drink on her so good and they were so good so all right with you liked what you heard. Please leave us a review. 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Lab 023: Dont Pass the Corona

Dope Labs

28:09 min | 6 months ago

Lab 023: Dont Pass the Corona

"Well if you can't tell congested I'm sick. Yes and I'm worried about you friend. We're can't even laugh. Did you hear what is not just me like everybody. AC- yes and I understand but I don't understand it right and the thing that that is making us all feel very nervous about everybody. That's sick is the corona virus. Yeah there's pandemonium panic about corona virus. You know all on my instagram twitter. y'All out here. Where nail shop mask and is not right? Anything I saw some Walker had on gloves is a mass. She's not playing around. I've seen a lot of people that have been using all types of tricks to try. Keep germs away. My poor friend here that we're going to get through this episode. We will try to suppress the cough. I'm and I'm Kia and from spotify studios this. This is dope labs. This episode is all about Corona Virus. And we're going to go through everything everything we know up until this point with the Corona Virus expert Dr King Miki Corbett from the National Institutes of health or H. Yes so let's jump into the recitation. All right so today. We're talking about corona virus. I know you're seeing those means and tweets and the article. Yes news clips everything. Hey it's all over the Internet and it can all become really confusing really fast. I saw some pictures and I'm not sure that these were even taking into twenty the people the way the whole background look people are just reusing clips share and stuff during the World Health Organization logo on on and just sending it out for it in their shared overlaps but then the next person this year that doesn't say this was a joke for my friend exactly and we have misinformation everywhere exactly so people are walking around saying all types of stuff that I'm just like that that don't sound right does and I've been trying to not be a well actually truly in everybody's mentioned but it feels so tempting so we know what you guys are saying on the Internet and it seems but we wanted to know which our saying on the street they feel like the flu is more effective on the demographic based off the fact that there's more depth from the flu that is corona as of right now until we're able to get were scientific facts and see what's going on with it. I can't say too much but I definitely think the flu is worse. You know. I think we're probably EH overreacting slightly. I did go on Amazon to see if they had any paper masks on prime and they're all out so I think they're all out of all that I'm Brian. Do you have avenue can borrow okay. I'm going to ask me when I guess when I bought a couple of six packs corona and the checkout person said. Oh I'm glad someone's buying corona and she said actually sales of Verona are going to pit bull thank corona beer is connected to the corona virus. Are you nervous and he traveled a lot. I'm not nervous about corona virus. I spent a lot all the time in Liberia. Outbreak was in full swing. And so I guess I have a little bit of experience in working in those kinds of situations nations and if you're careful and and and stay away from the most intense places then there's not much danger but I certainly don't think there's any danger anywhere here in the United States or outside of a few places outside of one. This episode is going to be as good as my friends who is holding on her chest as she as she's laughing. My boyfriend is also an expert in all of these things so she really understands corona virus how it removed shakes and everything like that. So we're GONNA be using her brain to help us get through this episode IV rotavirus expert but I love all things micro all all the bacteria and viruses are my friends and I love to learn about them and talk about. This is the one time I've missed teaching microbiology. Okay this feels like the best time new e-last in a classroom. So what do we want to know so we WANNA know. Well let's start with our okay. What I want to know is basic I wanna know what is corona? I WanNa know where it came from right. How did this come out of what seems like nowhere What do you WanNa know? I WANNA know. Oh how is it spread. I WanNa know what's been changing over time right. And is there a need for panic and worry What can we due to prevent transmission and spread like how much is in our hands? How much can we control? And how much has just set in stone. I love that. Let's jump into the dissection to help us out. We call Dr Cakir Corbett I am Miki Corbett. I am a senior research fellow. And the scientific lead for the Corona virus vaccine an imminent pathogens team at the National Institutes of Health National Institute of Allergy Infectious Diseases. Vaccine Research Center I am a North Carolinian. I'm black I'm a woman and all the things so the question that I need answered Because I mean we know. Generally how virus Everest moves and shakes because of our Protect your neck episode lab for right So I learned a lot from that but I feel like this is different and I I need to know what exactly corona viruses corona viruses are a large family of irises. Actually generally speaking corona viruses this is infect bats civic cats etc all right. Did you hear that. Because I've seen your means with Corona Beers and that's not the link. Okay we asked Dr Corbett to explain why is called a corona virus and she told us it has to do with the physical properties of the virus. The thing to remember is that the word Corona Rona is Latin for crown. I like macaroni line. Oh the surface of the virus actually looks like the crown acquainted wear right so think about the inside of the virus being a- Queens head and then the surface of the virus being like the crown and actually actually that crown is made up of some proteins at are called spike proteins. They are spiking up off of the surface of the virus interest. And so basically you have this ball with a crown of spikes around it and that's what the virus looks like just building on that Model of a ball with the crown that ball contains the genetic information to make more virus when it enters a wholesale in that ball is also coated in proteins that create kind of an envelope around it and then some of those proteins dig up and those are the spike proteins that give the corona virus. Name which Dr Corbett just described. Okay so we know that corona virus is found in bats and civic cats But are there any types of corona virus that are infectious just to humans. Yeah there actually are so of them. You've probably heard of Murs which is short firm Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome and so we had a big Moore's outbreak in in two thousand twelve. Right and then SARS which is severe acute respiratory syndrome right. I remember that in two thousand three. Yes that's right. They're also a couple of other corona viruses that are less well known And sometimes when people say oh I had the flu or I felt I had this respiratory infection or I feel bad sometimes. People have actually been infected in fact some of those other corona viruses so the corner virus isn't new to humans their respiratory virus. Family that we've known about but this particular virus is new. Wow that is crazy so a lot of us might have had one of the other corona viruses before but not this one. This one is new. So scientists tests aren't now naming it. That's right the corona virus. That's all of the news right now. Is called the two thousand nineteen in Corona virus in that in stands for or nominal or new. So what that means is that it is new to humans and it is new to the file genetic tree scientists use the file genetic tree to understand relationships so they may ask. Is this virus more or less closely related to another virus based on similarity the symptoms uh-huh of twenty nine teen novel Corona Virus are cough fever shortness of breath in some patients have even reported having nausea vomiting diarrhea and in some cases symptoms progress to bronchitis or pneumonia and now that we understand some of the basics about the corona virus. Less look at what's is happening right. Now where did this particular corona virus come from so there are hundreds of species of Toronto viruses that dwell in animal reservoirs animal animal. Reservoirs are animal sources where the virus might be found so for the swine flu. The animal reservoir was pigs for bird-flu birds so even though the viruses new to humans it had to have a host before and scientists have been working to figure out where the new krona fires was before it showed up in humans. It probably for however many years I mean upwards of hundreds has been circulating in. I think they've now named the reservoir to solidly be the bet So it's probably been circulating bats. Okay so if a virus exists in bats how does it get to humans. That's a good question Asia right so the first thing you might ask is. What's the genetics of it? Like how is that even possible. Yeah and it's possible that you know we haven't in candidate before we aren't that different different from bats. That's the thing to remember we're both vertebrates and mammals you know so there's genetic similarity between humans and bats and our Ho- sales might be similar to bet so we may have have the same receptor door. You know if you think about like we described before as a virus knocking on the door trying to get in and we might have that same door that that corona virus uses that was on bat sell. Well we might have that same receptor door on ourselves. One of those things that is similar enough between us and bats in this in this particular case. Ace is the receptor for the virus. So the molecule on cells that this virus binds two is enough similar between bats and humans that with some slight modifications in evolution. Which is what viruses do they ball it it could become more and more infectious to a human so thinking about that right? The first documented case of two thousand nineteen in Corona virus was reported in Wuhan China at an open marketplace and there are a variety of ways that could have infected people there. The second thing is how do you get a Bat. And a human physically physically close enough to transfer the virus you know you can pick up back poop in a cave and sequenced tons of Iran. Viruses I mean so it may could have just has been you know. They're in a safe open seafood market. You know bats fly in there at night Handle their business. This is Dr Corporate. Hit a really good point. You don't have to go into a cave to come in contact with a bed. Yeah as our population grows and we're expanding in a different spaces where it used to be wildlife. The area is now your backyard right. I see Fox running through my front yard almost every morning really yeah. I don't see anything but my neighbor's dog wildlife. What we do know is that you can't find corona virus? IMBED poop okay right. I don't even know what bad poop looks like. Do you know it can be on the table and I will pick it up me too because I wouldn't know what it was. No I don't want to say it but you know I mean you don't you don't know what it is no idea it could be. It could look eraser shavings like. Okay I'm going to brush this off so you got viral particles on your hand. If you work in an open air market you could be so. This is something where could be on the food right or where you could be shaking hands with somebody or you can cover your mouth to cough or anything right where this could be shared or spread around or touch a doorknob or or touch. Something that a lot of people touch you get on the bus yes it fantasy you touch the touch. The handles yeah. That's that's so important so if you work in a market you have multiple opportunities contact with tons of people And then those people blur contact and other people And and right now we don't know a lot about how the transmission works right and I think a good point that you made was that as our population grows and we have less space for the wildlife so their habitats are getting smaller because we're encroaching on their space the the rate that we are going to be coming in contact with animal in like parts of their lives whether it be their feces or whatever is going to increase. That's right that's right so true and I think the other thing is even as a rate increases is important to note that not all animal viruses can adapt to humans even if a virus does make it to a human. That doesn't necessarily surly mean that is going to become a global health. Emergency like this novel. Kerama virus has these bats for example or whatever Animal Is There Reservoir Cherries the virus. And maybe a human does come in contact with it and maybe a human does get infected with it. But we're not. We're not the natural host for these viruses. They're they're really not what made for humans so the virus doesn't hasn't built up the capability to replicate efficiently and transmit from from human to human efficiently. In that is the key thing to remember. Is that viruses can evolve so that virus at first brush. The begins human and Dan that immune system has not seen this before so it doesn't even really know what to do but then also the virus itself doesn't know what to do doesn't have the tools it needs in order to to infect and get into that hotel and get into the kitchen and start cooking yes and so that one isn't able to replicate right that one maybe doesn't infect a human but let's continue on in time right and so as the virus continues to exist in animal reservoir which we say is a bet now Remember we have similarity to bets. So so now you're viruses robust right is like hey I've been lifting weights. Ibuprofen are so now interact with the human in Wuhan. And he's like I got a Swiss army knife. I'm ready. I know exactly how to pick this. Lock this same key that I use in bats. I'M GONNA try right over here. Skeleton key skeleton key turns out we've got the same lock and now myself in. I'll let that's right. I'll let myself thin and now is used a Yo cast iron skillet and cook it up more virus just cooking more of ours and so now you have viruses replicating in humans so it's adapted right in this particular. Corona virus has adapted to be able to to not only go from animal humid but now to transmit from human the human pretty the efficiently. There are now over. Seventeen thousand confirmed cases and over three hundred and fifty deaths in the numbers is just going to continue eighteen. You to rise is while it is in because this has spread to over two dozen countries the World Health Organization has declared the two thousand nineteen corona virus a global. Well health emergency when we come back. We'll talk about how the viruses spread. What scientists like Dr Corbett are doing the Stop it and what you should do in the coming weeks? Take the Amer back. Let's talk about. How Corona virus spreads heads infected? People can share the virus by coughing sneezing or touching others diligence behind. What you're doing in your everyday life can can prevent a lot of infections? You know coughing into your sleeve unnatural hand washing your hands etc.. We all know that people aren't great about keeping their germs to themselves. So how worried should we be about contracting corona virus. Be Alarmed by now. There's human human transmission in the united any states like that's what do a recent case of novel Corona Virus in Washington State found that the virus is not only in the lung a lung excretion Russians so coughing and sneezing. Yes but it was also found in this individuals fecal matter mess poop. This is another reason. Why handwashing is so important? This is how stomach viruses are transmitted. Yeah people don't think about that fecal oral route right nasty the viruses doing what it set out to do last time I checked. I believe the case fatality rate was around still around two or three percent right so the case fatality rate is fairly low more often than not the people that come to corona virus infections have prior helmets or are elderly two to three percent means two to three people per one hundred right so when you think about this just for some context merce killed about thirty percent of the people infected Sarah Skills about ten percent and that's not necessarily beneficial from an evolutionary standpoint from virus. It's like you don't WanNa kill your hoes. These viruses are setting up shop in your body rent free. They need you and your host cells that they could keep replicating and existing sting. Is that what we're talking about. Now is two to three so fatality rate for this corona viruses much lower than the other two. We've seen right thinking about their existence. Let's talk about their irradication Biscuits as right to doctor. Corbett's work she and her team are working on. A Corona virus vaccine. And this isn't as easy as you might think you can't just say make GEICO vaccine is not trivial to create immunity to that right. You have to do some things. Some designing protein engineering manipulation nation platform delivery. One of the most important steps to infection is viral attachment. That knocking on the wholesales door is done. When a viral protein chacha's chacha's to or binds to a receptor on a human scale we study you know particular Amino acid sites on proteins and and you know study how various mutations in viral proteins effects whether it be like an image necessity For your expression in Cell Culture Dr Corporate is talking about a couple of things here you want to understand what site on a protein and is important for attaching to a wholesale and then you also need to understand which receptor on your wholesale is important so for example a long sale has over a thousand different surface proteins ullmark garage so somebody's got to figure out which one is newly discovered virus bounds to in. Dr Corbett is optimistic that a vaccine will be in clinical trial soon soon and the reason why the researchers actually moving so fast is because people have been studying these including myself for some time you know we study be cells. We studied T. cells here. I don't particularly but we do have a T. cell expert in our lab you know. We study antibodies on the motto level. So like one antibody we will study it for how well it binds to thing. How well does it kill? A virus is how well does it do this whether the mechanisms as a have all of these questions are in a backdrop of this vaccine design but until the vaccine comes out. What should we do you from a public health perspective? Be aware but don't panic. You know people are like. Oh should I get on the plane would if somebody came in from China first of all the CDC's BBC's screaming heavily and they are the best in the world at what they do the Centers for disease control the United States Centers for Disease Control is amazing amazing with diagnostics and prevention and screening. And so still go on planes still hang out with your friends. If for example this thing turns out to spread across the country. I have no idea what is going to do. But if it does turn out the spread across the country wash hands in sneeze into your arm go to work come home and go to sleep and then when our vaccine comes out take it the end. The thing that was pretty clear advice we went into this trying to figure out what a corona viruses whereas name came from and where it came from I think we've done those things how it spreads you know we have one route. That's lung secretions Coughing sneezing and we have another potential route. Or fecal and I think the next thing is how worried we should be about out this. I think it's important to have some context. Absolutely you know a lot of this early reporting about you know transmission so how many people can be infected from one case that is transmission under a certain set of conditions. Right that's trasmission when nobody knows that corona viruses thing and so that's transmission. Where you you might have a different type of infrastructure you have to remember? This was open wet market. So you're talking about open tanks and buckets with fish viral matter or fecal matter from from bats in something that's in water splashing around everywhere. Anything to happen anything could happen. There are a lot of variables is that are important to determining the transmission rate right and we can't just neglect all those things and say oh all Asian. PEOPLE HAVE CORONA CORONA virus. That's racist is racist and is ridiculous. Scientifically Right. What we know is in this space in time where we are all right now? Global Trade and global travel is real. Right so yes this was identified in Wuhan But that's it right. It was identified and want and everybody who wasn't necessarily Chinese and everybody that has grown Avars isn't necessarily Chinese exactly and it's just it's just so unfortunate because as of the way that these viruses are named they take the name of the place where it was first Discovered and so then you get this negative active stigma associated with that place. And it's not really fair. I don't think and what we also know. Is that people are drawn back in making faces vases when someone is sneezing or coughing yes sure but also the incubation period before you start showing symptoms is to to fourteen days that means if you have a long incubation incubation period is takes a while before you can catch us stuff right and so that's part of why we see there's really big increase in the number of cases because you can be a symptomatic for a long time right so just like Dr Corbett said. There are things that we can do to help eradicate this disease from our communities parties and that is doing. The right hygienic things in order to make sure that the virus isn't spreading the virus can spread and attached to another wholesale. And you then got a choice but to go away. I think another thing just in thinking king about hygiene. I don't even WanNa get into the mask. Okay leave the mass to the public health workers. I see Y'all you're wearing. Your mask is out. I'm like the turned it the wrong way. They don't even have the right type of grade mass to keep out. Something of that is so yeah you have to go and research those need to read. We reminder read but I think the thing here is understand distance. The viral particles can travel. So if we're talking about coughing sneezing and what's the travel distance for the Wuhan buyers. It can only travel about six feet from an infected person. Okay now we don't know much about it being able to exist on surface how long that lasts but just perspective. You're worried about corona virus But measles on the other hand can travel up to one hundred feet and it can stay alive for hours on the surface on my gosh so I'm just going to drop that there so I think those those kind of things that you need to think about. Don't sleep on coughing into your sleeve like some people are thinking that oh the virus will travel through like it matters like if you put on your hand we touch everything our fingers you put it in your in the in the. What do you touch your arm? You're not touching things with that. Yes in all those little things things make a big difference is so true. I think I've learned a lot about this. The Corona virus and how a spreading has been a really good exercise for me in critical reading. Right what I see in inspecting the memes teams that I that people are sharing that I make sure I don't then share exact also. It's a great exercise in public health. Like what people understand what they know and don't know it helps us see some of the outages. You know I think for me this was a great eye-opener. I'm like oh I need to do a lot more science outreach to my I own people exactly to my own folk yes it'd be Yonne people that's emperor lab twenty-three don't begin to check out our website cheat sheet on today's Today's episode and our show notes because we are dropping all the links to everything you need to read on dope last PODCAST DOT com. We had to talk about corona virus just because it is everywhere but also history month. Yes and or our semester finale which is in two weeks. Yes Eric citing. We want to highlight all of the black people in stem all over the world. So if you are black and stem or you know somebody. That's black and SAM. Tell them to go to dope. GLADS PODCAST DOT com slash stem to look for information on how they can be a part of our semester. Finale yes I can't wait to hear from y'all also we'd I love hearing from you. What do you think about today's lab? What are your ideas for future? Labs are number is two zero two five six seven seven zero two eight. 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#1245 The Toyota Corona Virus

The Adam and Dr. Drew Show

32:50 min | 5 months ago

#1245 The Toyota Corona Virus

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It was a Toyota. Toyota made a Toyota Corona. I forgot what year mad or indoor Gary and I WANNA thank Lifelock DOT COM PROMO CODE ADAMANT AS RECRUITER DOT COM slash ads. What year did Corona Toyota must've launched a Toyota Corona? In the early seventies late sixties. I would somewhere nine hundred sixty eight. That's what say fifty seven but now when did it hit the US? That's a good question so anyway so I'd get it's A. It's a Toyota Corona Adam Corona. Ray CRAYOLA didn't I don't know a decent little compact car you know and Crayola Crayon. That people seem to enjoy yeah. I didn't even really stop playing with my name. Just they'd just sort of sing song some other pronunciation right but never wasn't any good. Yeah wasn't like the poor girl grew up in poor girl in Junior high now the sixth grader named was Allah and She's a little overweight and I say L. A. You Smell Bala full at Gela. You used to say well. Listen I I I. I was trying to be funny. I in and hurt second. You know. Now it's all about hurting. I know that neither here nor there I mean it's an afterthought yes if it's a thought it all but it used to be about. How funny could you be and I don't think you know let's talk? Let's Talk Bowling Gray. I yes I don't think that people understand I I I don't. I don't think that society at large ensue. Certainly the news outlets and certainly folks. They don't understand young male sexuality and they don't understand young male sort of wiring as they pertain as it pertains to other. So they hear about the fifteen year old boy. And he's in the pool with the girl and he pulled her top off and grabbed her breasts and like Oh. My God is a rapists. He needs to that guy needs to be institutionalized or put away or tried as an adult the realize that is ingrained in a fifteen year olds brain. But you've gotta work hard to to not get away with it is he's doing because people are going to think of it as a sexual thing it is not right. Well it's something sexual but it's not what they they're experiencing as a sexual assault. Yes and we as a society are labeling it a sexual it's a boundary violation. Yes but but but it's. It's not him being sexual. It's making fun of sexual parts. What I'm saying now I. I don't think it's always being. I don't think it's him thinking he's being funny. Okay per se. What I think is it's an activity that we find Deplorable but what we don't understand is that there's so much ingrained in young males with so much happening with them from metabolic perspective hormones and everything like that that we look at it through the lens of females or Man Without any sexuality and go. Hey that needs to stop and that guy's a criminal and that guy needs to be put down or put away or whether we don't realize that it's much like in a weird way an animal doing something that we don't. We don't want that animal to do it. But but the animal's not bad. We have to figure out a way to encourage the animal not to do doing that. Dogs are bad dog. He chewed up a flip flop. No no that's what he does right at that age. Yes he doesn't do it at four years old but he doesn't ten months old. Yes and you need to figure out a way to put the FLIP FLOPS. Up on the counter. We need to figure this out but you can't go. That creature is bad. They don't understand what goes on with young male sexuality and they don't understand what goes on with young male roughhousing rough and tumble play which is a universal mammalian feature called rough and tumble play first American Corona virus to hit the. Us is a nineteen sixty six model so earlier than I thought. I had not too far off and that was the first one I probably didn't didn't know I was four when it by the the am was still commanding. The rose back then. Oh yeah so. Now boys do things that are perceived and are exceedingly cruel to one. Another and to strangers is well without the sense of outcome or even morality. You know I remember getting in trouble. I remember once We went Camping the school when I was with. The hippy free range school we went camping. And we went down like Leo Korea beach or something and everybody like spread out their sleeping bags and Put all their stuff out everywhere and Somehow I had gotten my hands on like some cherry tomatoes and I don't like Cherry tomatoes. I duNNO DOES PEOPLE CLAIM TO BE. Bite it on shootout everywhere. It's not a snack. You know what I mean like a cherry to some. Maybe some kid had for lunch voice. Sounds on you so I should. Oh this is going to be funny and I took all the cherry tomatoes and I laid out inside of this guy's sleeping bag and then of course the guy was laying on top of it talking. You know wasn't bedtime. Yeah it was lay on top of the bag and talk or eat makes Moore's or sit on it or whatever and then at some point he went to go to bed and it turned out his sleeping bag with ruined with all these cherry tomatoes. Which which I thought was super funny and everyone got Super Rip. She had pissed and they you know came came to me. And they're like you know what the F. and I was like. Yeah it's a joke you know. It's guys sleeping bags. Ruined have another sleeping bag and any he can't use it and now we don't know how to clean it up and Blah Blah Blah. How would you like zone do this to you and I was like I never thought about any of that stuff? I? I'm still making a joke. Is that where your moral compass started kicking in I? It always scales me kind of realize that I was not angry at him or sleeping bag or anything. I was purely making a joke but I could see how he was. You know with all the shit that went down in your family that there was some anger motivating it which blinded your ability Pathak. I did a lot of that kind of stuff that I just thought was funny and I don't know I have. I have no way to answer that question. I certainly hung out with other guys. That would do that as well. Who also well. Nobody came from a great family. Right I remember doing things to other guys and having them go like what the fuck you know. Every time I invited my friend own rather friends hand Chris push their stool into your face. So that's normal. Perfectly normal perfectly healthy and into my ear drew plays. I had a friend who invited over to another friend's house and had like a service door and there's like a second storey above it. He came down and the door was locked and he was like knock knock knocking on the door and I was just above and I just pissed on his head and he freaked out and I was like why are you freaking out a head and I'm like yeah. What's I'm glad you developed a moral compass. God only knows where this might have gone. It seems pretty natural them but also hung out a lot of guys that that's pretty good now that kind of that kind of thing like when when people are processing it. Yeah and it's like you went to football camp. He was hazed when you know he was held down and he was teabag. There's something like whenever I hear the everyone's going. Oh my God. He's been traumatized now. We need full-time therapy. And we're suing the football academy and the sounds like a Wednesday to me and because what I'm saying is they're not holding them down in tea bagging him. They're being sexual right look. We're kind of talking about the swimming pool thing a little bit. Yeah that's what they do. That's what fifteen year old dudes do well and teasing is an important part of rough and tumble play and teasing can become humiliation when it gets aggressive all my well what it is what you keep. Here's what people don't understand you up the ante you keep upping the anti so if you spit on someone that's bad and if you blow it's not rocket on them it's worse and then if you pee on them that's worth and eventually you get an earful at dunk. But we were interested in upping the ante constantly right. Which is what guys do. The rough housing gets rougher as you go right right. Everyone hiring used to be hard multiple job sites tax resumes confusing review process. Will today hiring is easy? Just go to one place. Ziprecruiter ZIPRECRUITER DOT com slash. Ads ziprecruiter actually send you jobs to over. Send your job request over one hundred of the jobs leading website boards plus ziprecruiter scans thousands of resumes to find people with the right experience and they invite them to apply for your job. So they're sending it out two hundred of the Web's leading job boards and then inviting people that would fit the profile to your job. 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I've said many many times that that we've gone too far with our laws as it pertains to the prescribing opioids for pain. Because now it's impossible to get pain medicine for people that need it. So we've gone from one extreme to the other which tends to be what happens if he does yes in all facets right or certainly what really sucks because I suffer from PTSD and extreme anxiety and panic attacks and the panic attacks or sometimes worse than the actual pain but now in the state of Pennsylvania. You CAN'T BE PRESCRIBED. Depression medication or does on top of opioid. Because then you're an addict automatically. No no no no no. Opiates BENZOATE A fatal combination. So doctors should not be prescribing. Those two hey. Tina what happened to you? Baby Girl I've had a rough one. Yeah I and lasted as a kid rate as a teenager. Birth Rate Baby. I mean I could have been on teen. Mom fucked up like a treatment for the trauma. Oh Yeah I lost a son in twenty twelve to overdose and I mean my life was pure hell but I deal with daily. I've been in treatment. I I think I dealt with it. Well I'm not you know an angry person. I'm an emotional person. And if you piss me off then I become like a banshee but other than that I being yeah. Hey BUBBA. What what are you what holistic? I mean holistic you know Spirit of the of the Orient. I mean a practical things. Are you doing for your for your mental condition? Saunas and exercise and a lot of I try to do a lot of walking dead. A lot of meditation I listened to the calming like the beach waves and the birds chirping that helps a lot but mine tend to hit me in the middle of the night. 'cause that's I woke when I awoke in a hotel room in the bed next to me and other bed next to me. There was two beds. My son lay dead. So if if I'm in a dark room that triggers me and I started having flashbacks and when that happens it just I feel like I could die at that moment. So it's a lot of deep breaths and that's when I turn on the waves and just try to go to that happened your son twelve. Hey one of the things I was Talking about what Who's motivational guy? Talking about Gary I'll tell me Sir sports guy. Yeah Trevor Mo- add right Saying things out loud is really damaging negative things negative things is really damaging Thinking negative things is inevitable and people do verbalizing them. Like when you go. I hate this job. I hate my apartment. I hate my bosses. We verbalize it. It's really bad and statistically it just if you think oh I don't like my job or oh it's so hot out here. It's too hot to work today or something like that. It has some damage. If you say I hate my job. It's too hard to work. I hate my boss. It makes it ten fold worse. Tina's of the world and these are. These are the date keeper. People I say you know I go. I buried my first wife. May Twenty nine hundred ninety one then I buried my son For was actually was actually four years later to the day that was may twenty second nineteen ninety five buried them some koruna. Yeah it's like okay. Stop going over this constant you know when people goes like it was three and a half years to the day after. I buried my dog that I had to bury my was like why are you know to the day? And by the way if it's three and a half years it's three quarters years and then they do a lot of like it would have been his birthday. The following month his birthday was June fifteenth. It was less than a month from his. Like okay. I there's this statistical everything for everything you know. Yes everyone was everyone who I'll put you dis. Everybody who dies missed their next birthday now. No son should have to bury a parent. The understand guided got us both things but everyone who dies has a birthday coming up that they miss that they meant well and once in a while. They're closer to that birthday. Are you sitting down through? Sometimes it's coming up like in the next five weeks but then you die so you don't get that birthday you explaining. He would have celebrated his eighty. Sixth Birthday in twenty-six short days doesn't mean that much to me. It shouldn't mean that much to you asked me the day my grandfather died but they'd rather no fucking idea. I can't narrow it down. A year. Asked me when his birthday was Moses? No fucking idea but stating that over and over again would have out loud constantly that you're the victim of this and that your son died that rap than constant wrap we'll of course you're in a constant state I would ask Tina to not say it out loud. It's good when I go. Hey Tina how you doing you go fantastic fantastic. It helps okay. It's better eventually believing the date guys who to date guy. Oh no I date the day. He got sober right well that day though to be fair. That's a little bit of a code word. We don't need to go into all the rest of the day. I don't need no when you bury differ 'cause 'cause knowing you're sober days a code other people you're actually sure serious better sobriety. That that's all they mean by that If they have been living in the light ever since. Then it's like so and also date guy if you're going to be date guy can't be all when you buried your son when you buried your first wife when you buried your dog. How about the date? You pulled off scratcher. You know what I mean you one thirty bucks with a scratch that Dayton. GimMe the date That you want to the You Know Adult Expo at the Or in Orange County met your favorite porn. Stocks took a picture with her about some positive dates. You are the date guy okay. Why not about the date? You got your driver's license so the the date you got certified as a welder. Yeah I like that. Not just all negative dates Ariana. Twenty-nine Colorado what's going on you guys doing good. What's happening Father just calling Questions for both of us but mainly a bunch of questions from Dr Gerald but my question would be. What do I do ask my friend? It's pretty much like a bad mom that you don't WanNa get CPS evolves that you do. You don't know how to go about doing that. What she doing things where they. They'll starve their kids but they'll go and get food and marijuana and they'll do things like that and then the kids are like star. Army they don't say them Ever and I don't house and then she constantly like yells. It's Things like that. So what would be wrong? If social services to show up on the little impromptu evaluation I would just be worried if she found out that I did it. How would she find out you? Did it my understanding when the cops come to your house and tell you to turn down the Stereo and you ask them which neighbor time they won't tell you. Yeah you can you. Can you can do anonymous sorts of re report or to. Your kids should go to the same school do you. Do you have any contact with the school where these kids go? I in contact and you could call the school you could ask if there is a social workers that they have school nurse that kind of thing and do report them. What's your relationship with this Gal her Like twenty something years. You're twenty nine. How old is she? Never since we were nine okay. Well we've known each other for forever. What about talking to how? Yeah I don't I feel like people I've known forever. Now you can lose friendships over this. I've done plenty of discussions with friends. I've never speak again where I've gone. Hey Man you're you're screwing up your life like what we do here but it's always I usually start with What can I do to help? I got some ideas about how to. How do you start leading your best life? Can you have that discussion with her? Actually and she kinda just says you know I. It's fine I got it. He's my alcohol. I need my. We can't survive without it and I don't really know how to respond. How is there a dad and the picture anywhere yeah? They had some domestic violence issues. He's is he in the home or outside the home again. Yeah well call. We'd always helps domestic violence. Oh yeah right right over. Yeah Yeah Panacea I look. Thank you for being interested. Did you say there are three kids? She Boys Yeah. Oh boy two boys yes okay. You know where that's going and they're going to be violent as well are what Do you think you could pull off some sort of? I don't know thing where you went like. Hey Sunday morning let's Or or whatever. Let's go hike. You know somewhere where there wasn't booze and pot and things involved like that right. Try to get hurt or going to church with me. And she absolutely refuses and then try like all. Do you guys want to go to lunch? Plays in her all even pay and she'll be like no no not without a dad like he gets all controlling and we'll let us in trouble all right. Well they need to then then. Go child protective. You gotTA call. Sorry if you just call them like making anonymous reporter what do I need to do? And and that the the the controlling piece you know where she can't even go outside the home. That's part of the domestic violence cowboy all right line five. John Forty Nine Indiana. Hi Gentlemen going on. Hi troubles about. Let's hear it is in a relationship with a lady for about three years and kind of getting to some PD assume Recently spent a few months ago and She's contacted me and she said she would like to do that again. With no strings. Attached be ponder or therapy. What's the therapy? That's mostly I. Listen it's the lgbtq tardy much going on out there just too many car models too much therapy. There's too much bondage Yeah John How you're you. When are you going to be fifty? St- just turned forty nine to ten months so all right. Can we not carry on with this shit? After fifty years of age we could okay. I don't know I just feel sorry for sounding like a prude. But I don't know what a certain point essentially like. You should join the adult community and get out of the adult community stock. Lose your world live. It's like I don't know you're not about you. Just have consensual straight sacks and whatever his question was what about just having sex with no relationship. It never works. La Yeah if you can handle it. I mean what the hell people usually develop feelings and you'll say but you know you're a big boy. I give it a try but she wants to do the whole bondage thing right most spanking spanking whatever look look. You're you're old enough to tell you what to do. I am just spanking. I didn't know but but John here's kind of my worry true. You know I don't like groups right and if I had to keep track of all the things you don't like but okay if I had a young black neighbor and he said I'm I'm thinking about joining up with black lives matter I'd go to Tisco go out there and live your life then. Don't do that and join a group and I I feel that way sexually. You know what I mean like. Here's what I'm into. I'm into the swing and cultural like I'm going to the bonding has that's a calorie burner. Mantha you've always been this way though. Why is he getting out of it? Come on TV. You can win yourself off of this. You have always been this way. I have is that. Why would he in this group or well? Look I understand the cub scouts reminds you how you felt about work? Why anything that was work. You're not into and this sounds like work. It sounds like working and also sounds like you're severely limiting your options. Eero guy you're narrowing it big time interesting. I feel the same way about you. Know when people go. What do you like? What's Your Nash? Now I was like I like hot chicks like. I don't want to narrow it down. I think I'M GONNA toss out say that somebody asked me today. They've kind of turned around me. What what are you sexually attractive people right? It's a an stripes. Yeah Why am I? Narrowing it down that much. Yeah yeah all right. Let me hit Lifelock ransomware attacks. Which encrypt data on your computer? Then demand payment in exchange for the decryption key. It's on the rise. Of course it's on the rise everything to do with your computer and your money and all the negativity is on the rise. And that's why you need lifelock perspective. Attackers don't even have to know how to create ransomware. That can simply buy it on the dark web. It's important to understand how cybercrimes affecting our lives identity thefts and other series issue. Someone's identity stolen every two seconds. You could miss identity threats. 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'Once A Handmaiden...' review (Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure S3E18)

Corona Conversations

26:30 min | 5 months ago

'Once A Handmaiden...' review (Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure S3E18)

"Hello everybody welcome to the penultimate episode well the Penultimate Review Episode of Corona Conversations. We are your host Caleb and Anna and today we are talking about once a handmaiden yet dot dot. I have feelings about. It doesn't join the club but before we get started driven catching up to do any business to attend to well. I went to the the need a walk so I got this really cool. Tattoo and I was really fun. Anegada Tattoo you guys. A great organization Jordan tell people that stands for Yes National Eating Disorders Association and at at fights for awareness and funding for research. And it's really good. Over eight hundred people came to the and so there's a lot of them though on their website so it was coming to a city near you. You should go. Did you. Just tell people that you're in the flu. Well can you change that? We had a location reveal. Now just bleep it guys. Her address is thought. Okay how about you what's new with you I don't have any charitable organization to plug. Oh except I will say that. There's the show I'm obsessed with on. Hbo called my brilliant friend. Oh my gosh had its first season in two thousand eighteen season two premiered here in the US on HBO on March Sixteenth. So it's coming up So if you're in the mood for kind of a So hard to describe historical drama for Very Tale. Almost we're here for responsible for that but if not the show's over you know are almost over. If you're looking for something new to watch definitely check out my brilliant friend on HBO Yup. Aw Let's get into it. Once a handmaiden is the sixty fifth episode of tangled the series which means that the final episode will be sixty six Lou episode. It's the eighteenth episode of this third season it was written by Leonid Dental and story boarded by Adriaan Burritos Ana Leoni and Kuni Tomita and it was directed by Philip pig. Naughty disguised in a magical cloak Kassandra. I said that really weird. Sandra because Sasha sneaks into piranha with the intention of making amends with Rapunzel she finds out about like Zanjeer like right in the beginning of the episode and I thought it was such a bizarre way to find out the insist. I mean it was interesting like having the vision and I was like. Wow that's so cool but then it just happened so fast and like blanket. You'd miss it kind of thing so it was just felt very strange. Yeah I think that Kinda sums up my problem with us. At least the start of the house just feels like such emotional whiplash like in the last she was jiving with Rapunzel again. Then the end you know total back to the bad side and the start of this opposite. Oh never mind That that betrayal by interior the deception and covered it right away now. I know that she's Ontario because I catched her. Yeah and She never like you said it's basically the exact same as last episode. Where did she not lost but like step aside where hundreds in it where she's going to try to make amends and did you never like catch here before i? I don't know she. Does that happen to anyone who touches? Zontine insanitary want that to happen. I don't know well that's an interesting point. I hadn't thought about that. I've seen were just happened. But she like since Ara I dunno. Cast is really good at Reading People. And and then she like went back to corona like when she runs into. It was so weird because I don't think she really missed him. I think she was alive. She was like. Oh yeah you know. Of course you missed out. I love that. They had their little moment together. I mean throughout the whole episode. They really she has a moment but she didn't seem to miss him at all before it was like. Oh yeah sorry about that. Disadvantage you for weeks. Okay well when you're busy trading and fighting with your ex best which is traveling across the country. You don't have time to miss your our okay. You do have time. She'd probably like cross herself to sleep at night. Ontario assumes. It's because of her puns of really. It's because of our theory. Yeah that's that's the true reunion that's going to happen in the finale. Our and CASSANDRA. Well it's kind of already happened so let's good it's good. I think. I thought I'll go tell. Pascal that cast was heading for I was like. Why DIDN'T AL? Tell skull so he can get the memo to wraps. That's what I wanted to happen. Oh yeah the thing is that cast says she's too afraid to go in because of the people but really she's just afraid to tell the puzzle so I mean she wouldn't have wanted that well I should tell them. Anyway if they can. Communicate Edna can no see. That's what I liked about our loyal his big shot because she was Louis so close. I'll just sell fresh such emotional whiplash. It's literally just like the last one where they're so close just goes by. I don't know and this. She looks like a store owner like she looks like she's so hard drugs like is there just like. I don't know she looks. Jasmine slept in like three weeks or something. She looks very secretive. I was just thinking. How cool she clicks so tired. She's like I'm like angular get cast to do what I want really funny. Oh my gosh and then I totally. I totally they`ve. I'm the head but I totally thought that we were GONNA can evil shorty in this episode because she ran into shorty and I thought that she was going to take take on shorties forum. That's going to happen and I was so excited I totally thought and I kind of feel like I thought it happened but then I wasn't sure at the end I couldn't really tell cyber still confused 'cause I know other people saw her shorty or if she was never took on four but I thought he was being creeper than usual. Maybe just 'cause I hadn't seen him in a long time. Yeah tweet US your opinions about thought. I loved shorty just being in the tree with chairman. Like what we laughing at those so good he. He was my favorite part of this episode for sure as he is Ontario about the same height. They're both like the shortest people in the show. And so I feel like they would make a great light episode together as a team with Zahn teary trying to get rid of him and short being the one person who is on Can't control like I don't know if he's always drunk or what he's always something. Oh my goodness I just really. I love thinking about what happened after it. Cut Away from them. The truth probably fell out of the tree. What did so did you think so? I don't know how did you feel about her. Coming back. Like in disguise in everything you call it on the handmaiden part. Things are getting long like it is. I'm like I'm like one of those. Tv show characters whose conceive another banks in there is like violet from the incredible me. She always was my favorite incredible. The new one and I'm not going to see the new and it was really good. I like that. I don't really like superhero movies. K- kind anyway. Oh we're GONNA take uncle to see The call of the wild movie with that animated because he wanted to see it so bad and she felt about him going alone so she was like a have to go with him. Even though I don't I would go see it just because it looks really weird like I wanted to see Harrison Ford acting without human in Costume. How demeaning for that poor guy have you seen the video shows what that look for? God so funny to get on your knees and Wagner but like a dog in front of Harrison Ford Mr Ford Tree. Hopefully we talk about forever or knocks you probably send some nondisclosure agreements. I also it was. I don't know how did you feel about her like wanting to restart the goodwill festival. Because I mean I don't know I sound like but I did really like it when they went to get the new gopher because that was the cutest chubby-cheeked Gopher I've ever seen that was an adorable is fun. I love how the show can go from having like Ancient Demon as the antagonised one. Second and then the next second is a bunch of hyper gophers and Eugene. Did it again mix it up okay? They said it's GonNa the easy thing to mix up. You're not really paying attention. And he's busy with varian inventing the sun drug killer device but it didn't work well and did not work at all. We're horribly. I guess it was still development though. Maybe they weren't expected her so soon but I did think it was a really good perspective for cast kind of see. How much pain like. She'd 'cause everybody else like in that play. It was really interesting having heard of like their perspective. And then that was really funny. When Rob's like had to take on the other role and I thought Kierra and in Catalina. They were like the cutest little rocks and they reminded me of were from Over the garden wall with their pointy hats. They're pointing rock cats at. That's cute. I think I missed. I missed some of the play because at my door dash should just got delivered so I see is really bad but I'm sorry. I'm sorry I missed that. That sounds great. Where'd you get Inching days and Guacamole is really bad. It's really bad. Okay so show you continue. Oh yeah and also so interesting like how fragile like her disguise wasn't stuff because like the gophers kept messing it up in the episode to I was like wow. You're very careful like though so funny when she late team into the Dragon and everything like the dragon appeared and all that stuff. That was really funny. I liked king. Fred showed up. Oh Yeah Yeah I just think of how like what would Kasaj have said if they had turned around and just seeing that like we'd she tried to play it off. King Fred really being there would. She has said that it was her disguise. Which you'd like. I'm acting I don't really think of cast as a like someone who would be enjoy Improv. Yeah I do think of her as either bad so it must have been must have been tough for her. Yeah it was. It was weird weird. Excuse and I didn't think stretch. Was that weird so I was kind of funny when wraps was like. Oh that's such a weird stretch. Where did you live that? Just bending over and touching your toes yup says no you're right. She hasn't had a lot of experience. I was GonNa say I guess you'd into Castanza's a child or something? It's not like Gothic. How to morning routine with her and that was a that was such a sneaky onto moved to pull off that Cape Goodness. What a stinker. I just I really wanted cast to have a moment where she grew enough to be ready to reveal herself taken that away from her again after she's been interfering in the past over and over like rap still the call that when she was like. Yeah you can be scared of it but you know it's the right thing to do like that's not an excuse. And it's true like she keeps. His excuse was her downfall and now my Gosh. I could not believe how quickly she switched back to be angry because Pennsylvania like tool. They're like I'm not mad at you long term like she she's literally said that and then castle just like up. Still GonNa hate you because you you'll protecting your kingdom and I hate you. Because surely casket understand being in a wanted to be captain of the guard. That of course she needs to protect her kingdom someone who would invade it so I mean it doesn't seem like she should be taught her why she was never make captain of the guard because she just didn't have the have the Gusto for you know also now that she knows his onterio has been manipulated her because Ontario basically told her as much when she uncovered their true identity. Think she'd be a little suspicious about like just the circumstances of like who pulled off my cloak. Oh that shot variant. Didn't mean to fire that. Oh we have a common enemy. I wonder yes I. I really what I expected. I'm just trying to expect anything anymore. I guess what Yeah I was. I don't know if I was expecting that huge bat. And then she literally like destroyed everything and then like I was also confused because I thought is Andrea that potion to disturb puzzle but it just put it asleep so I was confused about if it didn't work either like there was an issue but I thought when you gene put her on the horse that was like the most ungraceful way to put them on horace ever like panicking and you're just trying to get out. It was such a strange way. Okay let's take a short break and then we will come back with our final thoughts on the after set. How about that? Hey Anna. If rapunzel started a podcast what would it be about painting or lizards? How about Eugene Definitely crime or beauty products Zahn teary how to manipulate your enemies. Toews would all be awesome podcast ideas and the best way for them to start up their podcasts anchor anchor is a one stop shop for recording hosting and distributing your podcast. Best of all. It's one hundred percent free and ridiculously easy. To use and now anchor can match you at great sponsors. Who want to advertise on your podcast. That means you can get paid to podcast right away. In fact that's what we're doing right now by reading this Ad. Wow so if you WANNA make a podcast about paintin or skin care or emotionally manipulated. Ghosts go to anchor dot. Fm Slash start to join us and the diverse community of podcasters already using anchor that's anchor dot FM slash. Start Okay. Everyone welcome back. We are now going to talk about our final thoughts on once a handmaiden. Quite quite an episode Lost One I really liked the play part. And I love that. We're the cute little gopher and LSD gene and varian. Getting some bro time. But I I cannot believe that the kingdom was destroyed like Casas. Being such a stinker. She's GonNa say a different beat word but decided not really a sucky friend and I was really disappointed and I really. I don't think he's going to be deep anymore. Like obviously she's had so many chances for redemption and keeps blowing it so I feel like she's she's like maybe he wasn't a villain before because she didn't really know she was under the influence on Syria. And like she was persuaded her to do things and stuff but now she fully knows and she's fully deciding to destroy your kingdom anyway and so. I Don I wash my hands of the whole affair. Wow when you say that. I don't think she's going to do and I love that scene at the end to win. Like at showed a closed on their faces and our puzzle realizing that Catholic actually legit destroyed or kingdom like she had her fighting face and she was like okay. I've been playing nights with you for fun fact. That was wraps his biggest fear in the be very afraid episode was cast taken over her kingdom and then cast it's on the throne and I was like no you're dead. I mean there. There are some parts of the episode. I did enjoy like the whole owl. reunion was really great to see And then shorty ends on teary meeting for the first time. I'm sure that's going to be a long and fruitful relationship between them. I don't know what's going to happen in the future with him. But I'm excited to find out. But yeah all the CASSANDRA stop. It was nice to have her back and the overall plot of her being a handmaiden to infiltrate the Kingdom was nice. But I just can't help but feel like a bit let down with on the back and forth and yeah I'm just disappointed in CASS. I guess after hearing what you said. And she's had so many chances I mean she's pretty much blown now. I'm sorry cavs but don't know where you go from here but so as an episode like stand alone I'd probably give it a seven but thinking of it as the second to last episode I guess I just wanted. I don't know I don't know yeah I've just it more And I like I. It'll not sure how I feel about this episode until I know how the next episode goes. That's true so yeah. I don't know once a handmade in what what can you say one last. Cool thing When Cassandra did say her line about fine you want me to be the bad guy now. I'm the bad guy I was thinking. It was kind of a callback to areas saying. I'm the bad guy that's fine but actually it turns out according to the WIKKI They're the exact same words that Gotha said when she revealed her true nature to Rapunzel in the movie. I remember that. So she's like I don't WanNa go with you at the campfire just like girl come with me anyway but yeah I I remember that line. That's what had money right. Oh my gosh. Maybe there is a serial killer G. Like in Riverdale for Robson betrayed twice by the people closest. Yeah solutions needs to like knock trust anybody in cases family. What's next Jane is going to be a shape shifter no I hope not. Oh I did see. I thought it was jeans. Dad was still there and he was like trying to fight. And then I thought was funny. That lance was just with a deer. The time was like I don't WanNA fight. You WanNa thank you love so dear. Yup I mean it's a good thing. They recognize though immediately that they weren't really out of there. I'm control so that doesn't get mad when his dad turns on him. Still be upsetting but do you think in the end. The the relationships are what will break them out like a deer in lands like show him somewhere deep within her. Maybe to run the other way you know it would be funny if she like. Everyone is recognizing each other and stopping the attack and then a deary recognizes lance and then she fights harder our next stop is anywhere is our next stop is Hewitt and Wvu doesn't have an English name Plu wet and blue translates to. There is more in you. I don't think there is though about cast their share the court rotten teeth. What we literally no. That's not true because she's tried to reach out twice now you know she doesn't do it though and you know what they say. Third Time's The charm. No she she literally destroyed her best friend's house so there's no. Hey I mean you go to your best friends house. You have a wild party. You Destroy Entire Town. She wanted to do. Some redecorating was overdue and the townspeople. We all know. Do not like rebuilt just give it is redecorated through destruction. I just I just thought of another scene from the episode when the ladies telling her like you think these are flowers Biz. Flaws do now. It was the the handmade in the replacement handmade in his funny. I wish we'd seen more of her weight out. What happened her own. Worst cast killer. She go although I guess. I wonder why she came back to the castle out what was happening. What happened to her? I'm sure cast just hazards safely out of the way somewhere buried ten feet under even thought about that either. She went back did she. Maybe she wasn't from the count. Maybe she went back to the farm or something. Maybe just caught and was like. Hey you're not good at this. You WanNa you WanNa like you want me to take over for you in the goes like yes. Please soclean bossed around by Old Lady crowd. So Plymouth envy the plot is Rapunzel and her friends must take krona. Back from Cassandra and finally confront the Evil Zone. Teary ooh that but the sleepless agenda tie. The short is wife No. They deserve each other though funny. If they came riding into the carriage together shorty was like wearing a little evil crown. Probably be like I'll come to your side if you give me cheese or something dumb like that. That's not dumb. He's hungry your money. All their food stores like two days after that artist started the journey. He's clearly is a jerk. He's he's hungry. Pub Thug called them. The pub thugs in this episode. Was funny all right. Well that was the last time we'll get to say until next stop. Is that anywhere actually? It's not because we're gonNA let like I said this is not the end We'll be doing some more episodes about tangled. And maybe some interviews. You never know head teaser. Teaser HINT HINT. But next week we will be back for the series finale. The I think it's like sixty six minutes or something some at Super Long. It's three episodes long so yeah like basically episodes immigrants victims of crime so much. I need us back here for the final episode. We're GONNA shed some tears. We've got a hope finally deal. Casado once and for all saying that time. So that chair. 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Corona Virus: What To Tell Your Kids

Power Principles Podcast with Maleah Warner

33:44 min | 5 months ago

Corona Virus: What To Tell Your Kids

"Welcome to the power podcast and are twenty twenty our perspective. I'm your host Malaysia. Warner discussing topics to broaden our perspective by looking at life issues in a new way this episode sixty one three things to tell kids about eighteen. Hi Friends and welcome if you are sick to death of hearing about Kobe. Nineteen or corona virus. I know where you're coming from. I'm getting a little discussion weary of the topic myself. Then you might want to turn off this episode and move on to another topic because there are other things going on in the world not just the Corona Virus. However if you or one of your children are dealing with the disappointment of canceled events due to cove in nineteen then. Today's episode offers perspective. You can share with your family. Your neighbors about handling the social changes we're all experiencing has I'm recording. Today is Saturday march. Fourteenth Twenty twenty. It is pie day. Three point one four happy pie day everyone although I think a lot of us have forgotten in the craziness that's going on. What a week so in my neck of the woods. I live in the western United States. The State of Utah and I'm south of Salt Lake and this week began Sunday. Monday began pretty much normal and then by. I'm trying to remember it was Monday. I think it was Monday or Tuesday. Night my boys started watching our jazz basketball team. They were in Oklahoma ready to play. Ready for the tip off. Doctor came onto the floor. Spoke with the refs cleared. Everyone off of the floor turned out our jazz player Bear tested that day positive for Cova Nineteen and so they quarantined all the players from both teams in the stadium and had them all tested and then domino reaction. Nba ended up canceling or at least postponing any other games as of right now there are no NBA Basketball Games being played. It had already been announced that there would not be any spectators watching the march madness college basketball tournament and then during this week that changed to none of those games were going to be played either now as of yesterday just Friday. Our school has been canceled for the next two weeks possibly longer. We don't really know yet and a lot of events being cancelled and I wanted to address that because we've had some disappointment here in our house. My High School student was disappointed that his math competition was cancelled. Now that's another illness entirely. If you're sad that you don't get to take a math test. That's a different kind of illness entirely and I have no advice on the topic. Might Elementary School student is disappointed. His Wax Museum has been postponed. He's in fifth. Grade and fifth grade is the year they go to their clear creek camp out. That's the big adventure for elementary school. We don't know if that will be happening this year. Not My junior. High Son was disappointed because his state band festival was canceled. They've been rehearsing their music so long. It's day when it's filled trip. They get excused absences. They get to ride on a bus with their band. Friends and go perform the music. They've been practicing and he was really disappointed that he just had to go to a regular day of school that day. In addition his spring soccer season has been indefinitely postponed. So there are these kind of going on. I've heard of a lot of friends. And people who have tickets to concerts plays sporting events that have been cancelled when it might ultimate favorite places in the world outside of home the local library. Our local libraries now closed. I think students who have been practicing rehearsing preparing for years. Our Local University Brigham Young University. Their basketball team had an amazing season. And a great chance at making it to the sweet sixteen for the first time in however many years and my heart breaks especially thinking about the seniors who this is their last season of their college career in a sport that has been their life from the first time that they ever played community rec basketball. And that's just one example. There are dance competitions. Maybe your child landed there fever all-time role in the spring musical. There's definitely some real disappointment and real heartbreak here. So what can we say to our kids? And that's the goal. The purpose of today's podcast episode is to have a discussion about the impact that we're seeing from the corona virus and explore some different perspective options and what of those perspectives are going to be the most helpful and which of those perspectives are probably going to create more fear and do harm than good. Are we feeding our kids on a frenzy of fear or are we empowering them with hope and proactiveness so let's start first with three things not to say to kids and then go into three things to say to kids about the corona virus? So three things not to say I am not saying that these things are wrong. I am not saying that their faults. I'm just suggesting that saying these things might cause more harm than good number one saying that. This corona virus spread is a sign of the end of the world. There's a tendency for people who believe in the New Testament for Christians who are waiting for the second coming of Jesus Christ and who believe in the prophecies of John in the book of revelation to jump on that. This is the sign of the end of the day's bandwagon. The bottom line it could be it could happen tomorrow. I don't know and you don't know so my question is we don't know then what good cannot serve by seeing it. Does it help us really to be more prepared or more fearful. I remember growing up in the Cold War when Russia was our mortal enemy apologies to any Russian friends listening out there but you remember the nineteen eighties. It was the Cold War and I heard often that it was the last days that it was the end of the world and I remember being awake at night in my bedroom. Terrified my brain going crazy thinking about imagining trying to just from my limited perspective frame what that would look like what the end of the world would look like and what impact it would have upon me and here. I am thirty plus years later and now there is no more cold war. I remember the same kind of feeling with the Gulf War and Saddam Hussein and feeling like that was going to be the breakout of World War. Three then remember y two K for all of you who lived through the change from the nineteen ninety nine date to two thousand. Wow any talk about a frenzy. We really were watching the clock waiting for it to turn to midnight expecting that everything would explode or implode or that. The computers would all fuse out. And I think we just didn't know what to expect. It was an unknown in my lifetime. I've also experienced the technology. Bubble burst and nine eleven. My husband came home from work on Thursday and he said the feeling of this day reminds me of the feeling of September twelfth. Two thousand one that feeling of unknown we can't predict or even comprehend the full ramifications of what's going on I remember watching the towers fall and being glued to the television and thinking that our world was going to change completely that maybe we wouldn't even have an economy anymore and we would all revert to living intense and being an agrarian society. Everyone growing our own food felt that uncertainty that unknown and then in two thousand eight we experienced the housing market crash. And I bring these things up as a reminder that we've experienced unknown things as a country as a world before we've lived through scary unknowns it boils down to it might be the end of the world it might not no one knows so why say that it is does it do any good doesn't make us any better about planning our lives about living about looking for solutions. If we believe it's the end of the world. I kind of think that I would rather plan to live and be surprised by dying then planned to die and be surprised by living. I want my kids to be able to plan their futures with all the hope and optimism. That should come with youth so just some thoughts there are no right or wrong but maybe just some thoughts to be careful about what comes out and how you sound about gloom and doom of end of the world number-two thing not to say to your kids again not wrong not faults just some thoughts here and that is saying this is. Satan's fault again it might be. It might not be. I don't know neither do you. So why give the Guy Credit? What if it's biology? What if we all have physical bodies and there are such things as bacteria and viruses that we are susceptible to what if this has nothing to do with conspiracy theory or a terrorist attack or a plan of the devil? Sure it could. But the truth is we don't know so. I had to choose which way to think and I'm going to choose the mindset that empowers rather than cripples me. I'm going to choose the thoughts that helped me take my actions and help. My family live in an environment of calm and confidence rather than fear an unknown. I do believe there are ways to educate and empower children about evil in the world. And how to be resilient and watchful for it and I don't think one of those ways is by labeling any tricky situation that comes up as a Grand Evil Plan by a terrorist conspirator or the devil to overtake us. The reason terrorism is called terror. Ism is because the acts are bred to incite fear and terrorists are most successful if they generate huge amounts of fear frenzy and terror. So the best way to combat terror is to be optimistic and to not be afraid. I absolutely believe that as a collective of humans that we are smarter stronger braver than any active evil. You can call me an optimist and I will take it as a compliment. I believe in the power of hope faith and goodwill over evil any day. Third thing not to say children. This is a tough one again. Not right or not wrong just a way to think about it. It's to not politicize. The virus something like this happens and the Democrat say that it's all the Republicans fall in the Republican. Say that it's all the Democrats fault. And what good does that do if we're divided and fighting against each other than we cannot fight for each other in finding the solutions that help us all. I really look forward to the day when we stop dividing our world into two camps where one side is always good and always right and the other side is always bad and always wrong. I will bet money that there is good and bad and right and wrong on both sides just as there is good and bad and right and wrong inside of me. I believe we cripple our children when we place blame on one side why because we are essentially teaching them to spend time and resources looking for where to place blame rather than on where to find solutions and that mindset of placing blame will replicate their marriage their workplaces their social networks. Are we raising kids to be blame? Irs or solvers? So just some thoughts this next couple of weeks when you're not going to your soccer games and you're not going to your concerts and you're not watching basketball games and have lots of extra time to talk. Just some thoughts on being attentive of what comes out of the Mouth. We need good discussions. We need neutral discussions. And I don't mean I think positively everything will be okay. I'm not talking about turning a blind eye to reality and I don't think our kids really by that either. They want to know facts. They want to know what's really going on. So what are three things that we can say to our children that will empower and help them to have faith that everything is going to turn out okay. Let's move now to three perspectives. Three empowering approaches that we can take when our kids ask questions or when. They're disappointed when they want to know what's going to happen. I'm just going to say we'll all three are and then we'll give some examples and talk about them. Number one is the principle of a little hard now easier later easy now a lot harder later number two looking at the big picture and talking facts about Team and number three asking kids. What's the alternative? Would you rather have this or would you rather have the alternative okay? Let's dive in number one. I loved this principle. This is a one-size-fits-all principle that you can double up in multiple different areas today. We're going to use it in talking about the krona virus so this is the principle that things that we do that are a little hard now become easier later but if we choose easy now then later we're setting ourselves up for much harder. The universal example of this that we can all relate to is diet and exercise right. It's hard now to exercise and to eat nutritiously to turn down that donut. Second piece of chocolate cake. That's hard to do now but when I do the hard now later my life will be easier. Switch it around. The easy thing to do now is to not exercise to be sedentary to eat anything I want but then later my life is going to be harder. It's going to be harder to move. I'm going to lack energy. I'm not going to sleep as well. I'm going to have complications of heart. Disease or diabetes or weak this is super nifty power principle. It's a great principle to teach kids. It's a principle. I use myself all the time when I think oh this is so hard I just tell myself. Okay I can do it now and it's going to be hard or I can put it off and I'm still going to have to do it and it will be harder later so I can do the hard now or I can choose the harder later because the truth is something may be hard now but if we put it off it will be more hard later and this is exactly what we're facing with the corona virus. It is hard to cancel our concerts and sporting events in school. It's really an inconvenience in a lot of ways however if we don't do it now we are going to be facing much much harder circumstances several months away and we'll discuss that a little bit more as we go into number two which is to look at the big picture so our kids. We do this to. We are the center of our own world. Aren't we we really feel like we're the San and all of the planets rotate around us and sometimes it's good to just step back and get the global perspective and this is an opportunity to have a discussion of facts with our children? So my boys is. They've come up this week and had questions or sometimes I'll just say to them. What do you understand about crony buyer? S what do you think you know what's going on and I really try to be careful that our conversations are not lectures to them. I don't tell them that they're wrong and feeling disappointed. It is disappointing. I definitely empathize with that. It's disappointing to have plans change. So it's not a lecture. It's more a discussion on all. That is disappointing. What do you think about it and do you understand why? And then it gives us a chance to talk about what's going on with coveted nineteen. So let's talk about it here. Is this an overreaction? Is this a media frenzy? Do we really need to be closing down? Our schools and canceling March madness. Is it that big of a deal? And this is the part of the podcast where give the disclaimer that I am not a medical expert? I'm not an infectious disease expert by any means I'm just representing perspectives. That can be more helpful to our families during this unknown time. So I'm not your go-to source on the most to date stats and facts. But I've done enough research to have a good general idea of what is going on. So how is the corona virus different? We've heard that the death toll isn't really high in there still more people dying from influenza and even Turkey losses than from Corona virus. So what's really the big deal and the answer? Is you think back about the SARS epidemic that happened in two thousand three that really largely stayed in Asia. It didn't really spread too far away. Think also more recently the Ebola virus and that dynamic that also didn't really spread outside of Africa the coveted nineteen. The difference is it is jumping borders. It is a virus that is traveling and then once it gets in the country. It's being spread community to community so it really is far more of a global virus than anything else that we've ever seen. The flu has a season. It's October to February in our society. Our medical systems pretty much know what to anticipate with the flu from year to year. How many hospitalizations? They're going to be the treatment that's going to be required and they can kind count on that. At the end of the season the flu is going to Peter out. The Krona virus does not have a season. My understanding is that it can go year round and so we aren't going to be able to count on this summer months lessening the spread. It is pretty fascinating to look at numbers of how staff this virus can get out of hand and I will put the link in the show notes to a couple of articles one from NPR that show some graphs of how it has spread in the world and the two cases that were really learning from have been Iran and Italy. They were both countries that were very laxity ethical about the disease to the point that the Iran deputy health minister was coughing into the microphone on national television as he was speaking about corona virus and mocking it. Not taking it seriously. And then he later tested positive for the virus. Iran went from having under fifty cases to within two weeks having over nine thousand cases. Italy on leap day this year so just barely the end of February Italy had three hundred twenty two confirmed cases one week later they had twenty five hundred cases so if I could go pull in my son who was so disappointed about missing his math competition he would tell us the mouth of that is that it was almost ten times that it multiplied baked ten times in a one week period and then by March eleven they had over ten thousand cases and now they've begun taking drastic measures and if you've seen the news coverage the streets of Italy are completely isolated quarantined locked in the house and the hardest thing. The most heartbreaking thing is the Italian doctors who do not have enough ventilators for the sick patients they have to choose who's going to get ventilator and who doesn't and that's a hard position to be in so if you think about the potential rate that can duplicate ten thousand cases in one week becoming a hundred thousand cases in another week becoming a million cases and within a few short months you have an over taxed overburden hospital system in our country. We have experienced housing market crash. We have experienced a technology crash but we have never experienced a healthcare crash. And I think about what happens to the pregnant moms who need to deliver a baby and the hospitals are so overburdened. That doctors aren't available or Corisca of having a baby in a hospital and contracting the corona bias on top of it. It's terrifying and the risk to the newborn wet about patients undergoing cancer treatment or dialysis or any kind of standard regular medical need. You're a car accident and you get hospitalized for a little while it really completely changes our perspective about the inconvenience of what we're going through now when we think of the bigger picture the larger ramifications that could happen if we weren't to take such drastic measures now just this morning. I needed to take my ten year. Old to the pediatrician. He's been sick. He's been out of school. We haven't been worried that it's the corona virus because we haven't traveled been exposed and there still are former cases of the common cold and the flu and strep throat and the other typical stuff going around the corona. So I wasn't worried about that but he wasn't getting better and I needed to get him into a doctor. I waited in line on my phone for an hour. Just to be able to speak with my pediatrician's office so they could determine which of their locations I needed to go to. Because they've and I think that they have done an amazing job they have one location specifically designated for any respiratory issues. And because my son did have a cough than he had to go to that clinic and they were keeping their other locations available to be infections and pin worm and regular immunizations and well child visits and all of the other kind of standard stuff and so do to the corona virus. It was a bit of an ordeal to get to a doctor this morning not near. I am not complaining because not near as much an ordeal as it could be six months from now if I did have a seriously. Sick child was severely limited. What if I had to wait days for my child to be able to see a doctor? What if we had to wait weeks for our loved one to be able to get any kind of medical treatment? I heard today of a family planning a funeral. The other league grandma had passed away of natural causes but they aren't sure what to do about holding a funeral. Do they go ahead and have it and have everyone gathered together or do they wait a little while and then do a memorial celebrating her life and I was thinking you have? Those are hard decisions right now but months from now. How many more funerals could we be planning or? Would we not be able to attend? How many loved ones would we be burying without being able to do any kind of gathering and any kind of a memorial because up to now it has been the elderly who have been at the highest risk with the corona virus? It does put it into perspective. Doesn't it the missed concerts? The missed math competitions. Those things are hard. They are a little hard but they're doable and they're not near as hard as what we will be doing what we would be doing months from now. If we didn't choose to do the little hard now okay. Number three and final perspective. Final approach that you can take when having a discussion with family about Kobe. Nineteen is to ask them to consider the alternatives. Again this is one of my favorite nifty tools. I pull out of my back pocket. All the time is inviting kids to consider the alternatives when perhaps if there are complaining about what. I'm serving for dinner I can say oh. You don't have to eat this you can eat dog food or no. You don't have to eat that. You can eat the leftover tuna fish casserole. That's three weeks old and the fridge or that's okay. You don't have to eat that you can go ahead and go to bed and not eat. Just help. Invite them to consider alternatives. Because when it seems like your current option is so bad. Sometimes you just need to be reminded of what other alternatives are available and then your current options starts looking a little bit better same thing with chores. If kids complain about cleaning their room. Then I say you don't have to clean your room. Filled outside really needs that this was pulled out of it. I got this from my piano teacher growing up. If her kids complained about practicing piano or about cleaning their rooms she would say. Oh you can clean the attic or you can clean the basement because nobody wanted to do that. So when the current options looking pretty bleak just a little reminder what the alternatives are and. I do think this is what our healthcare providers are trying to do at this time is watch and learn from countries to see how they've handled and how they've reacted to their cases of Corona Virus Hong Kong and Singapore have done an amazing job instigating similar things of voluntary closures. Both Hong Kong and Singapore were some of the very first countries. Hit some of the earliest documented cases of cove nineteen and they currently. Today don't have any more than two hundred cases each so they've really been able to keep it in check. Compared to for example South Korea who is approaching eight thousand cases so just a little perspective on. Yeah this is hard right now. But what are the alternatives? We can do this right now or a few months from now we will have to completely stay inside no friends over no small group gatherings no seeing grandma and GRANDPA whatsoever a lot of possible catastrophes in hospitals in with the healthcare. And this isn't to be gloom-and-doom this is about trying to gather facts. Make observations and make the best possible proactive decisions and to finish the episode. Today I want to leave with what I think is a really interesting perspective. And that is this amazing opportunity. We've been given to put life on Pause. We have been given an unexpected pocket of time kind of bonus time. It's a little bit like having Christmas vacation. But we don't have to put up any decorations or shop for presence or bake neighbor treats it can be a really amazing time to ponder to reconnect to recharge. It's interesting because it coincides with. My church is soon to be celebrating. That two hundred year since the commemorative event began the religion the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. And it's fascinating to me that it's coinciding with this time. I'm going to do a podcast episode about next week so I won't go into a lot of detail about it other than to say we can go into this mandatory pause frenzied and fearful and resentful grumpy and angry and placing blame on all the evil political conspiring devils. Who connived this virus to ruin our lives that is a possible thought that is a possible mindset or we can go into this pause open and grateful and peaceful and take advantage of this time to reconnect. I just have to say I'm going to get a little spiritual here. I just wonder if God if the universe has something really important to tell the world right now and that the best way to do it is to just put everybody on pause everybody except the poor hospital medical people who are working around the clock to figure out testing and cures. But for the rest of us you know being able to put things on pause for a little while so that maybe will slow down and we won't have soccer games to be loud and Cherif for. We won't have all the events that we need to be on our cars driving to and maybe that will give us just a little extra time and space to listen. And I'm Kinda curious what's going to happen but in any case it is all up to us the mindset that we'd choose in approaching what is happening especially MOMS. We are the thermostats for the emotions of our family. We set the emotional gauge. And if we're fearful they will be fearful if we are angry and resentful and grumpy. Our families will be angry and grumpy and resentful so I hope that talking about this and looking at some of the different perspectives has been helpful and if nothing else. I hope this episode has given you some new perspective. I'm Malia Warner. Thank you for joining me on this episode. I won't be back next week for another episode of the power. Podcast and Kelvin stay. Well stay healthy. Stay happy go by.

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Corona virus Update March 21st with Dr. Daller

The Captain's Log with Host Brien Spina Podcast

24:03 min | 4 months ago

Corona virus Update March 21st with Dr. Daller

"Doc is another edition of the captain's log Dr Dollar. We've been talking about this now for five weeks corona's a real thing it's affecting everybody. It's closed down my business. It's affecting now your business and let's talk get questions guys. We're happy to answer all your questions. Now's the time if you have a question about the corona virus let duct dollar. No He's going to answer it live. You don't have to wait long lines what's going on down. How are you? We're here and Casey thanks for watching? This is the cabins locked out the dog and answer your questions. You don't have to make these calls dot what's going on. Tell me well you know a captain Brian. We started talking about January. And we knew about it in mid-december at least I knew about December. I did not expect it to be where we are now. I when when my son Jillian mentioned CORONA VIRUS IN MID-DECEMBER? I thought you know it's five people at that time you know in China. It's not going to get here and but unfortunately it's here and it's all over Europe. It's all over the world. It's in every continent except Antarctica. So we have to be prepared so today I really want to talk about what you do prepare yourself. I want to talk about the end of the session. I really wanted to bring some good news because I have I you know. I looked at all the good news. What's going on good news that we we have some good news. Okay and I really want to talk about. I made a list of all. The good knows and that we have so. I know everybody thinks that first question. Is it possible that somebody already had the corona virus and has gotten over it even know absolutely and so Eighty percent of the patients are going to get across the virus. And then not going to any symptoms whatsoever. Captain Brian and. They're not going to know that they had the Koran. And it could be Captain Brandon. You'll have the virus and you just didn't know that you have any symptoms and A. That's why we when we talk mortality of three percent three percents people a three point six percent of people. We really don't know that number because we don't know what will how many people really had that disease. Only when you do blood testing later on we don't have this. We're going to look for antibodies. We look for what is what is your immune system reaction and you've got to know whether you had the disease or not but right now there's not test. There's no blood this yet available. I have a question. Yes so there's a guy that's an isolation now at thirty days and he. They mentioned that he could possibly have dead cells. That's why they keep testing positive instead of it. Already coming. And going 'cause he says he virtually has no symptoms. He's been there for thirty days. They keep testing. It keeps coming back positive. Is that me so some of the patients and and You know I read several articles about patients that again. They test positive in politics. They have no symptoms and it's more than fourteen days mourning being Beijing time and we're not sure. How is the test not sensitive enough or is still communicable is still can can deliver some of the disease talk people so I also have a question? We're going to get it and your house becomes. It's going to be in fact there's places in Your House. This are not pick up the virus and kill it something that you can you get it again. Great Russian and we don't have the one hundred percent proof of that answer yet but we think that once you get it because as long as this virus does not mutate once you know that you got it and you get and you cannot get it again it's like this see or HIV once you have HIV you can get HIV again. You are already you have the immune system in yourself right now. He doesn't go away interview the whole go away but HIV if assuming that you have symptoms today with medicine and everything patients are walking the streets of HIV and they have no symptoms whatsoever. They have viral load of essentially undetectable. So let's talk about hepatitis. A. B. C. Let's talk about the flu the moment you have the floor. The floor is different because you have. The flu does every year. It changes inflict mutates that much smarter in my opinion virus than the carbon nineteen did not mutate yet. Let me interrupt you. You say it's much smarter because it's changing we don't know if ours is changing it though is that not true did not change it so we don't know if it's going to change in the future and we don't know if it's going to become more aggressive or less aggressive and is so far did not change so so when I said change mutate mutate. These were the the virus changes a little bit. Just finally did and then all of a sudden you immune system does not like that fight so don question. It's Pollen Season Stuffy. Nose no fever. What does that mean you know? I you know how many people come to me. And they've never and jumping about every year. You have chances. Did you get the corona virus is set steams still very very low chances that you have allergies and you have the flu and runny nose stuffy nose and you have sinusitis or you. Have you know? Overall the corona virus does not come with a stuffy nose. That's not our presented so dry concert Ryshkov. That's right it's a dry cough and so it stays dry cough a few days and then it becomes an ammonia so it's lower respiratory infection so it becomes like a New Orleans and from there you go but it's not a it's not as they like the flu or runny nose or or is h. e. So why is it pneumonia because the post nasal drip goes down the jets and not as an all of the virus itself likes to is being attracted. These has an affinity toward your nor long and as a result of that attacks lung and it becomes you become you get pulmonary fibrosis. You'll get other probably move your lungs and it tax villains. Casey has a question. Wouldn't it be better? If the people all got it in. They became immune to it rather than trying to avoid it. You know it's a great question and it's an it's an ethical. Question is so if we all got. Let's say the entire world eight nine billion people got the disease and letting the mortality rate is not four percent. Let's say it's just one percent because I think at the end of the day when we're going to do the math. The mortality rate is going to be only one percent because they're going to realize more people have been able to tap that about that before absolutely so all of a sudden. It's amazing captain. Brian is listening to me. That's how I learn things. It's amazing so let's one percent and those one percent are your parents and grandparents and the people that are very dear to us. Can we sacrifice them? In my opinion we can all do that. We cannot sacrifice one percent of the population for the greater good and so so we need to do whatever we need to do to save now. It's the issue is here. Should we protect those one percent? Those people the most likely yes absolutely. Those people should not leave the house. Those people should not around and go to target and try to return something and get five bucks by. Because that's not the time right now if you want to return something due to Walmart to target two months enough very months from now and when we have because Kevin Brian I have no doubt. We're going to have medicine to treat these. I have no doubt that that in the near future what I do I say near future. Three four five months from now. We're going to have vaccine. There's no question there's so much money involved in that. This affects the entire world. So why can't they find the vaccine for the flu? That actually works then if they if you're so sure that they're going to find something but this much money wouldn't some billionaires. Say My God if I cure the the flu but I'm GonNa have enough money because the flu viruses. I said before he's smarter deliver on a changes as a result of that all of a sudden. This does not work in this when we were when we create a vaccine. We have to develop those indexing. It's Salif mutates and we have to all the time. Make sure that vaccine works on those people and so nothing is one hundred percent even when you get the vaccine. You still have a chance of getting the disease. Is it possible that if they do something now and catch it before it starts to mutate? We a better chance of storing it. Quicker absolutely view. We catch it early on and you vaccinate everybody but again you can order for this to work you have to vaccinate everybody's all those anti vaccine people ought to become. I think that will get the vaccine design. And but but let's assume everybody gets a vaccine. You're talking about a nine billion people that needs to get a vaccine to create that make that to produce that to go through testing to to make sure you're really getting what you're getting to make sure you're not a complication. It's a big deal. It's a big. It's a whole movement absolutely so guys. We're taking your questions on the Catalog Log Mitchell. How're you John? Thank you for watching. I see a lot of people on the jets have questions for Dr Dollar regarding the virus. Please type and right in there right now we will answer your questions live Dr Dollar. Tell us some positive things that are going to be happening or that you see are ready with the virus. Gears positives there. That is positive kept the Brian. I did some research in the last couple of days and and even today significant amount of research and we're going to go over some of the good news so first of all the good news the number one good news if I see that China had closed down its last corona virus hospital. There are not enough new cases to support hospital that are just designed for the grownup by loud so as you recall. China had built hospitals for five six thousand people just with the Virus Day. Close those now. They are being treated in regular hospitals. Sending US masks and sending right face mask and everything else saul doctor in. India treated also not new that came to the doctors in India successfully patiently corona virus with several drugs between the patient. We've issue with different things and that had been working now again. These are still law. The law of research about drugs way. Jv drugs for the floor and drugs for different drugs that they currently already have improved corrosion. That's correct isn't it? Super Expensive Association super expensive absolutely but again the moment he becomes a you know. It's an epidemic. This is a pandemic. The price goes down automatically. This is not the money that Gamers I know. Shut you down correct and I saw that good. Absolutely this is this is a war. This is a war against a terrorist called Corona virus. Casey is a question. Why should someone go get tested if they have it if they see to see if they have it? If fever is a symptom is always something you should do. Yes fever is one of the infamous and but but again if you think you were exposed or you feel like you have those signs and symptoms that are associated with the coronavirus going check. Now it's drew in the US. We've been a little bit behind on the checking on the test. And but right now some test centers in Lee County in different counties all over the US that are available. But you do need you cannot just walk there and say. I want to be tested. You do need a doctor to send you to refer you to those centers and live corwin quest and all of them are going to have the very very soon and he's going to be running but again a doctor has to refer you. There is a website. They actually take pre-test right. There was created by Google but they crashed already salt. Crashes Morning I think many people so that that website I think it's designed really for the west coast of the US and mainly for the San Francisco Bay area and then they are listen. They are going to work on that. They are going to develop all the APPS and the what every takes I have no doubt they are throwing so much money. This these is going to go away. Captain Bryan. We are going to have this session three months from now. And you're going to say I can't believe we're talking about coronavirus. We're going to talk about sex again because I really want to say I really don't talk about growing a virus but we have to talk about growing virus because that's was on people's mind right now basically the more sexy had the less caroni again. What was that? That was a big thing that was saying. You know one of Martin's yes I iphone victims. No no doubt any other questions guys. Hey Sam what's happening? You're watching the county doctor dollars going over right now. So good news that he actually pulled up from the corona virus and some positives. They're already starting to come out. Keep going interest so the next one is an patient that these one hundred and three years old in China grandmother fully recovered from the corona virus. Again we are saying that the elderly higher risk and everything else. A hundred three year old female had a grandmother had the disease and fully recovered. This very very good news and the next one. Cleveland Clinic developed a bit nine hundred ninety s the deals resulting hours. Not Days Right now in the. Us takes four or five days through the CDC allow inquest and private. The lab testing are thinking about days. But we're talking about hours remarkable and other good news from South Korea where the number of new cases I declining. And that's what we're going to the US in two three months if we do the right thing and as it true that your orgasm can help boost your immune system. Absolutely not about the slain. Staying healthy. Staying healthy is very very important. Sexual activity is very important. Unfortunately after Brian I never seen anything my practice. Elderly patients say you know what I'm a little depressed. I'm GonNa let you know because of everything going on because you know I lost my boy. I lost my practice lost this. I lost that a spent so much money in Costco. I have no more money. People getting depressed and when depressed. They don't want to turn away from station. Turn back on the sex press absolutely and offering aside. You know you don't get a coronavirus virus from fudging yourself so if sex doesn't work touch yourself everything's month my favorite can again. I want to remind somebody know everybody out there. Actually I saw me. And he was a gentleman who creates memes in some of the memes. You've seen around the world this guy as she created he said my oh he says your small population of what did they say. of the people that are the most prone to it. They're saying high-risk yet your small high risk population to me is my everything and it was. His son was very sick but he just wanted everybody to understand that. Yes you we're talking about. A small percentage of the population but imagine if that one person is your grandmother or your signing has some kind of immune deficiency that absolutely is. It is for us in general our population. I think to protect everybody absolutely absolutely. Let's go over a little bit more good news again. I got a lot of research about many many things that we can talk about if they have questions but again. I really want to cheer things up here. And so scientists in Israel likely to announce the development of the corona virus vaccine several companies and the Israel are working on vaccines out their breakthrough technology. Amazing stuff that they are going to make the vaccine also when it comes out much faster than normally. We used to make that. How can they be sure that the vaccine over if they give it to somebody fast track that had nine months? There's not some kind of repercussion. Because they didn't get nine months of testing quite. How do they do that so they hit so when when you fast tracking things you can't but when it when you're dealing with something that in the pandemic some something it's worth the risk worth resent you are? Every every time I give you an aspirin at one has been taking your wrist. There is a risk of bleeding God otherwise so if you're taking the risk when you take an aspirin any significant risk of aspirin vicky an aspirin. Captain Bryant is significant. And so every so when we are taking you know the vaccine for gas and so often. Let's forget all the blood absolutely saw blood-thinning bleeding central. That's I'm not talking about the coronavirus. Let's talk one second about the coronavirus and asked me monitoring advil Aleve and steroids salt studies. Show that if you develop corona virus and we all are going to know. We've talked about the months ago that we're going to know somebody to develop the qualifies. Make sure they don't take any aspirin mull dream and the Aleve or any steroids says there was prentice on anything that decreases your inflammation absolutely. Your body needs and inflammatory response. When I punched in the face it becomes swollen. That's an inflammatory response. All the good stuff is rushing into that area the platelets and the plasma and the growth factor fix that area. If I will give you a motoring information will go down but it will not repair itself. You already your inhibiting so there were four. Patients infected died in their fifties. The fairly young people and when they follow those people fifty essay. Welcome a fifty year. Old Man died for me or female die from that. They realized that they all took anti inflammatory medication. So if you have if you develop that take tylenol title J I loaded up with two three hundred pill counter tylenol thinking. I was going to do something great. They may over no middle. Big Sam's Club size of five. They're probably expires though. But that's okay you know how in cost here also Cambridge the aspirin correct aspirin or any anti inflammatory medication. Like Ibuprofen type very important. People do not know this I disagree. I heard as on these goofy prejudice. I don't think our guys will keep firing your questions off that you'd O'casey for your Thailand question. We helped you with that. One dollars asking Answering your questions. Meanwhile he pulled up a whole list of women of the good news. It's happening so sloppy so three Maryland. Virus stations fully recovered able to return to everyday life. Great News captain. Brian L. That no no I mean we did not know the patient to the hospital and you know severe disease and after a couple of weeks go back to normal life we know that if you develop corona virus and you have symptoms deal but if patients go to the hospital they're sick and then they are being released in good shape. That's different story okay. That's that's very very positive very positive. And what else San Diego? Biotech company developing the Kobe. Nine Thousand Vaccine Collaboration with Duke University and the National University of Singapore remarkable and all seven days that were treated in New Delhi in India where recovered completely all these. What would I'm trying to say? The tire world is working on something. Everybody wants to be that one that save and I won't die. I give credit for everybody that is working for that. That's wonderful we need that and now's the time to be positive. Don't don't sit down and say wow. It's the end of the words we are going to get through. We mentioned that Captain Brian in at the end of January. We said we want to get through this. And some of us are going to get a few punches in the face at the end of the day as Darwin said. You know it's not. The strongest animal did survive. It's not the biggest animal. Survive is the animal that was able to be malleable and change with time and so those are the animals that survived. We are going to survive because we are going to adopt in change and be positive and say what do I need to do to protect my family? First of all we need to do to protect my practice. Do I need to change something in my practice? You're doing some new stuff now undoing new things. We're all going to evolve and become better and better. Let me ask you when you get when you get to caroni patiently. Take you in the hospital. Since there is no treatment. What are they actually doing for your symptoms? So its main supportive treatment so the treatment is going to be hydration for example. If you need floyd's if you need a respirator they're going to echo to intubate you and put you on offense later and if you need some for example you develop in addition pneumonia. That bacteria pneumonia. They want to give you my audience if you develop a anything else. They're going to help you to support your heart your lungs your kidneys everything else. So it's mainly to support you not treatment right now so not a lot but enough that's GonNa keep your absolutely and the key is really. You're not to develop other complication. The key is to survive that period and to let your body fix itself. And hopefully you're going to be out of the woods. At what point does the doctor say? Okay we needed me own. Doctors are going to say unique the criteria if you are fever if you have Chelsea if they think you're a risk for the patients if you're a risk for your own health if you are if they think you're going to communicate that disease they have a holiday so things that are looking. Well is unstable stable. If I sending always going to be worse off. Is he going to come back by sending meaning is going to be? That's never good when your dog goes and you home and ten hours later because the next articles a hey what happened. How can we sending all right? So there is a gentleman that took a jetblue flight right and he took the test prior to getting on the plane from what I understand when he got close enough to be able to open up his phone check email. He was told that he had the corona he was positive press. So is there a bunch of things that they tell you during that time? Okay now you have to notify everybody around you. Like what do they do when they tell you? I hate to get the opening up and say I'm positive and be sitting in my living room. I think I shit my pants but it is very scary. It's very very scary. Because you're not scare for your sound. Fear scare for other people who scared that you gave it. It's like you know if you're not a killer and you're going with a loaded gun and you start the I don't know why shot it's scary because that's uman being you. You're trying to protect people you're trying to. You don't want to hurt anybody and that person is thinking who they sit next to. What did I touch wood? Iheart Khudai what did I do that? If I was that I can communicate to any of these guys. Feel very very fearful to get that phone. Call something yeah. Absolutely he is if you have any more questions to wrap it up but Dr Dollar as always having the latest and greatest he uses are not the school of Google. Like I do the journals. Polls Obama's information for you. Guys live on the podcast. Thank you for watching the captain's log adopt dollar another episode boom of Corona. You know we're watching it so thank you. We appreciate your time. And if you like what you see share let us know. Go on our website the captain's log. Podcast DOT COM checking out. We're out these guys. Thank you bye bye.

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Policing During Corona

Toure Show

33:48 min | 4 months ago

Policing During Corona

"Podcast magazine takes readers into the lives of today's leading podcasters and beyond the microphone of the shows. Fans love each month. Podcast magazines dedicated writer. Share personal interviews exclusive categorical charts industry happenings and more this mice issue features a special. Sit Down with Teret. Who shares had unlocked the doors to success and find purpose in life and career did a free lifetime subscription while you can add podcast magazine Dot Com. The age of Corona virus talked a lot about the hero doctors and nurses were on the frontlines fighting this battle this week. I want to focus on another sort of central worker on the frontlines of the corona fight in New York City police officer. New York is the epicenter than Brooklyn and Queens of the epicenter of the epicenter dealing with more cases per capita than any other borough and the officers patrolling Brooklyn and Queens camp practice social distancing my friend Lieutenant Edwin. Raymond says on a normal week he sees about three dead bodies but suddenly in the era of Corona it's upwards of nine or ten or more and lots of cops are getting it and lots more cops are calling out sick. Should they right now? Be Arresting people for Petty Crimes and bringing them to jails where the chance of getting corona is high. Should they be arresting people for not practicing social distancing and then bringing them to jails like rikers where risking getting corona? Should they be over policing black neighborhoods as they normally do a masking lieutenant? Raymond all of that. Because he's a unique officer who's been battling the force from within the force for years demanding they not use quotas and treat black and brown citizens more fairly. It's a tough battle and he's going to have to watch his back for the rest of his life but he believes it's worth it. Of course this is the patron era of Toray shows. If you want to hear the second half of this amazing interview and get our Friday exclusives please subscribe at Patriot. Dot Com Slash Toray show. That's patriotic dot com slash talk ratio. Show for just five dollars a month. You'll get all these episodes to a week and you'll be helping our team now it's Lieutenant Edwin Raymond. Nypd Brooklyn on Toray. Show Lieutenant. How many dead bodies have you seen in the last week or two versus? How many do you normally see when you're out patrolling so it's been about fifteen in less than two weeks normally in less than two weeks might be one you know back? That's how much of a difference. It's been since distinct hit colleagues Wesley to other precincts they have seen exponential increase also on one precinct nine thousand nine hundred forty eight hours on one a precinct yesterday. Eight in just the morning shift another precinct. Twenty seven days this. We've never seen anything like this before. What are other ways that you 'cause you're in the front lines of dealing with this while the rest of us are at home trying to stay safe. What are other ways that you have seen the impact of corona in your day to day work? Some people who have other conditions are avoiding the hospital in a way of trying to avoid corona and then they end up. You know unfortunately assing away. Because they didn't get the medical help that they needed. So this thing is it's creating a just a web of issues. I'm noticing a lot of statistics. Coming out just today and yesterday noticing. Black and Brown people are dying from this more. And we're seeing statistics in Michigan and Wisconsin and Illinois reflecting that not because the virus discriminates of course the virus does not know a black body from Brown body but health conditions class conditions our relationship to hospitals and doctors because of historic conditions. Those things play in and leave black bodies and Brown bodies more vulnerable to this and that is having an impact on outcomes. Are you seeing that in your work? Absolutely I mean that's enhanced racism definition right there Also many of the essential workers who are still out there seventy five percent of them all black and Brown folks so people out there You know just more in a in a position a more susceptible to contracting this happen to be black and Brown folks in the New York City Police Department. So we'd lost eight employees all of them black same thing in the transit. Mta transit subway system. They've all been black. And so yeah. This is this is this is my experience is what I'm witnessing. I mean it's having a huge impact on the police. Department is a non some statistics that said The NYPD infection rate is four percent versus the city. As a whole is half of a percent I spoke to a lieutenant. I spoke to a supervisor the other day who said one in four from the eighth precinct. One of four of his Officers are being infected. So what are you seeing inside the force? Your I mean I just you. I just can't practice socialistic. We wouldn't be able to get our jobs done if we if we could. And I believe that that's a direct reflection of reality. If something goes on I gotTa Take Police Action. I have to be outdated. Educate the people have to be out there to let the people to you? Don't have to ask the people to go inside on a. I find a lot of people walking to and from the train stations. And when asked what are they doing they just happened to go for train? Ride going to check some friends and you know. Unfortunately the people are not taking the serious now. This is what I've been finding so as police officer having to be out there it's inevitable we're we're we're just more with more susceptible to this. Do you think that some black people who may be historically skeptical of the news are not taking this seriously and are kind of going about their thing as normal and making themselves more vulnerable? That's that's one of the things that I'm finding some people say I don't trust the media. Cetera on this actually found people that say black people can get this you know You know unfortunately people are not educated enough about what how detrimental. This thing is But definitely the historical you know cynicism that exists between certain communities in the medical field that that that exacerbates the issue also and you've seen some business owners. Even as we talk the other day some business owners trying to slide around. Tell me about the restaurant that tried to pretend it was closed. The restaurant in In Queens where the front gate was remained close as the business itself was closed but they had side entrance and they were at full full. Dining nosal waiters everything. We didn't have social distancing going on on thankfully state ago already pull their license and probably GonNa lose anti-business now you know you go from being able to sell alcohol not GonNa hurt you. That's GONNA hurt profits. But that's what you risk. I mean what else? What else can we expect we? We've seen a small number of people be arrested for not practicing social distancing and that puts them in a very difficult situation where they go into a cell. That's not clean. Where social distancing is impossible Which puts them even more at risk of catching something and then spreading something when they go back. What about that? Is that an effective way to deal with the situation. And people who aren't paying attention it's really not And it's a last resort that you know you know. I've known for criticizing department when it gets things wrong but this is the most part it's been it's been right. It's a last resort. Some people like the businesses especially if they have to be able to enforce The you know the shutdowns if not the no one's GonNa shut down because its profits in terms of taking individuals we we're trying our best Tha that because you know it. It's it can be deadly. Yeah a lot of people are talking about. Should the police lay off on arresting around small crimes at this at this time? Because you're putting people into trouble as well as you know. Should we be letting people out of rikers because exposing them to a deadly virus becomes torture? You know what do you think about that? Part on the form of the latter will both Welsh. You know to to make an actual declaration. Small crimes are going to be enforced. I don't think that's the best way to go to actually declare it. Obviously offsets have discretion given the situation I would imagine that also gonNA use discretion appropriately in terms of inmates. The minute I started realizing this thing is a lot more serious than the president was making. It seem I realized that the you know the the prison system and the jail system it you know we're going to have to make some really tough decisions as to how we should go about it. for the low level things. I believe yeah we have. It's it's an emergency week. We can let those guys go which should treat space to allow. Those were convicted of more serious crimes to be able to spread out enough to to be so social on. The reality is when some people want to admit it or not. There are people who genuinely a mini society that detrimental to the community if they're out in about One thing I'll bet medias reported from from what ads ride people are still getting shot. Mistreat for beef. Certain violent crimes are happening possibly at a higher rate because unfortunately the people taking advantage. Or what's going on right now. The fact that it's okay to wear a mask the fact that not too many people are GonNa be out to Whitton certain things so we still unfortunately have to. You know have a grip on on crime while simultaneously trying to keep people healthy is crime in general has been. Let's say the last shoot three weeks. This thing has become hysteria that everybody's trying to pay attention to deal with. Has Crime in general stayed the same gone up gone down within that two to three week period in general. It's it's lower because people are in out but certain violent crimes are the numbers are I would say either the same or maybe even a little higher particularly shoes shocking to see the amount of shootings that still going on. It makes no sense even supposed to be out. That's crazy are you. How how afraid are you for your safety? What about the average officer who may not be exactly like you but similarly doing the same job? How afraid officers that they I I know. Lots of thousands of officers are calling out sick. I'm sure many of them actually are sick. Many of them are reasonably afraid. What happens if I get? How frayed are you as an officer? I mean everyone's concerned obviously not just about especially with the you know the information that you could be asymptomatic and carry this and give it to someone else. People don't want to bring this home today. Older parents and grandparents even the children own wants to catch. No one wants to bring people love. No one wants to contract with themselves. No one wants to get unhealthy died. So what we're all concerned. I try to protect myself. Brushfire already practice good hygiene now at this point. I just wear masks and gloves. Went on patrol A mask at all times gloves depending on what jobs I'm responding to. Ibm conscious person. I'm going to have my gloves on etcetera. But I'm yeah everyone's concern offices which we wish we could stay home. We wish we could many also said I wish I wasn't essential Falling by you know we have to kind of job is to help keep society going at this point so we we we report to work spike thousands. Who have Gone Sekine are self quarantining. I mean there must be an emotional impact on the force when something like a quarter of the force is saying that they are sick. Thousands of others are self quarantining for whatever reason so there's a diminished number of of men and women who are actually able to do the job So what is the emotional impact on folks. As they're they're fewer people are being asked to do more hours. Yeah well yeah. That's you know people like from seeking a college any minute now any minute now. We're going to get this thing. We probably already have it. You know. So it's it's It's been tough. It's been tough on on on my personnel in the rest of the the force but again this is something that we've no one really ever dealt with you know in the in so we we're writing. We're writing this thing as we go along. You know we're trying to figure it out as we all love. Toray show and you miss the days of me talking about politics on. Msnbc and really who doesn't then check out my other podcasts. Democracy Ish where see with Daniel Moody Mills and Argue and strategize about the twenty twenty race may black and progressive perspective. Seen many beam talk about the CUOMO sexual. Did you can find democracy. You're wherever podcast or streamed right back to Toray show and your jurisdiction is in Brooklyn Right. Correct Brooklyn is has Brooklyn and Queens. Have more positives than Manhattan and the other parts of like we Brooklyn Queens. Are the hot spot of the hot spot. New York City is really. You know it's very very difficult. I mean you know there's Brooklyn Queens also are areas that a lot of people have talked about Over policing in something that you have criticized in your work but you know you wonder. What is the impact on black and Brown people when they live in neighborhoods that are consistently historically over policed and now the police are charged with not just stopping crime but keeping people physically apart right and there's already a basic fear and a lot of people in a lot of officers in a congregation of black people especially young black men? Like what impact is that having? It's it's been a strange experience. 'cause there are some people who stay inside who understand what's going on the some of the younger folks. This is like a joke to them. They don't get it so causes Avoidable interactions with with offices. And you know I just wish people understood more. I mean the cops for the most part they you know they have been responding to crowds in groups on father reasons so that it's not too different in that sense Although they trying to keep himself safe and for the for the people in the street to them they just see it as being harassed they don't they don't see this as something different. You know. They don't see it as any different than broken windows. Policing COPS coming bother us you know. But that's that's been that's been trump minimal. It hasn't been as bad as it could be thankfully but still that way too many people out that I wish were were inside. I mean for a lot of black and Brown people in the hood staying in the House all day especially in public housing. Where you know. The space can often be quite small. There may be several people multiple generations living in one small space staying in the house. All Day is nearly impossible right and I know I mean like just talk about that. I mean like they sort of feel a need to be out and they're violating the guidelines. But they it's very very hard for them to just stay in the House all day. Long Ample Square footage square They square feet at home. They you know they. They're getting cabin fever. So you can imagine someone who can Lives in a two bedroom apartment. That has ten people in that You Know Multiple Generations Kids. Elderly outside is the escape from that. So they they. It's much more difficult for them to go to stay in because And people just go. Home is where they shower and sleep for their. They don't spend any time inside a because of the living situation stuff for some people but we have to get this done the quicker get it done quicker. We mitigate this thing in the quicker we can start opening up our society. That's that's how people have to see it. They have to see the whole picture because they are simply told to stay inside and don't understand. This is what leads to getting back to some as close to normal as possible because as we can imagine that we're probably never GONNA go back to complete normal if they see that way. I think they might comply better. But from but I do empathize with those. Who Don't have the best home situations and outside? Is that escape? It's crazy to think that we will never go back to complete normal that that those of us who are living through this will probably never forget it and will you know always. I mean like you know Steve Kornacki on MSNBC. They talked about his grandmother. Ray going through the depression. The Great Depression and always having expectations inhabits that were shaped by that and I could easily see. You know. Always not wanting to shake hands. You know I'm GonNa fist-bump everybody goes forward always wanting to make sure that. I have a stack of money nearby. Because who knows if you know 'cause corona too is going to happen right like this. This strain was bad enough. There'll be another one five ten at some point down the road. This something similar will happen again. Maybe even worse you know would what are the ways that you think that this will have a long-term or even permanent effect on people one of the things I've already been digging about? I had no idea that a virus will come in and exacerbated. Speed it up automation. It's going to take away a lot of jobs. This situation is going to speed up automation in ways that we never saw coming you. Don't self-checkout is is Joe. Compared to what's coming on. We already have trades. That can run themselves. One of the things that's causing less strains is the fact that a Lotta transit workers have called out so in ten years that might not be the case because they the computer might be running the whole show. So that's GONNA affect a lot of jobs a lot of jobs. Amazon's working on a drone of a few years ago. The technology already exists cards already. Drive themselves you know that that Amazon truck that does deliveries. It has technically doesn't need a driver on this is this is. That's one of the things that I think it's going to hit the hardest on people's jobs because this is forcing companies to see just how far technology can be pushed to get the job done instead. people are learning that a. Lotta meetings don't have to happen in physical spaces. London meetings don't have to happen exactly. I don't even that so so that's one of the biggest changes That I see coming in terms of the medical field. I'm hoping some of the good changes is We we understand that certain. Things are essential for society to flow and unfettered. Capitalism is not the way to go when it comes to start being. You know I get it. I understand that this is what is country was founded on. But we might have to. We have to make some changes when it comes to education a medical health care. We have to make changes that across the pond. They realize decades ago. You know I think we we're going to be forced to have to make those changes. Are there changes that you see in the future of policing that will stem from this situation from this moment arm in terms of procedure responding to conscious people at home who have passed on. I think a lot more precautions are going to be taken. I've seen right now. Detectors not has met suits to go into those to go into those situations that might become something more permanent on other ways in which honestly laws might get passed so that if we ever have to order people to stay at home they're motif it's more enforceable which again is is one of the things you want to avoid. Because of the way that a virus you know science behind how viral spreads but those are the things I see changing in law enforcement when you go and e just because when I read about what. Ebola did to the body and the violent effect that Ebola hat on the body that it really Took my understanding of what was going on with that that that situation to another level as a is there a different look to the dead corona body verses other diseases or other causes of death. I'm not that really from what I've seen only because a lot of times the person dies it's discovered in the morning when people realize you know uncle didn't wake up or westbound and a lot of times. It's it's pretty fresh and usually when it's fresh you you don't you don't see much yet on this you know. Reading mortis takes a little longer. You can So I had Britney Stack had a witness anything that stands out really. I wonder if I wonder what will be the impact of the amount of death that we are all about to experience because right now as we talk I believe the New York number or the national numbers around six thousand dead and that's going up about a thousand a day so far and the national models are suggesting we could have one to two hundred thousand dead and many of them happening in April and May so that's a rapid increase in the number of people. Dying all the time in April and May. What is the massive number of folks dying? What is that doing to you? And your brothers and sisters in blue What impact is that having? I mean it's affecting me. Amanda join seeing this all. What are the things that keeps me dedicated to the people as I take my job? Very personal very serious. So when someone's grandmother or aunt are ankle or father or brother is dead in a room and the entire family is sitting in a semicircle in the living room trying the eyeballs out I feel it you know and again this happened to maybe once or twice a month skull many times in such a short period of time it starts to affect me. I'll be honest on at the time is a surrealism that goes on. Bet allows you to stay professional and deal with it as a professional but then you process it later I would. I think I'm going to have to get back to to honestly to that question as to just how much of a toll it takes. But I'm already failing I've never seen so many dead people in such a short period of time and the number is only going to rise in the colleagues with without obviously getting into names in specific identifying details is there a story of That stands out for you. That is particularly hard. The of you know we got a call. We had to go somewhere and somebody you know. Somebody was already gone from corona something that happened recently that it sticks with you. Yeah the guy. Unfortunately we found him stiff on his back yet roommate tool so I'm laying on the floor and acts the d. need an ambulance and he said he'll be fine is just get me. Some water. Got Him the ward announced. Last time I saw him a lot. You know and it's like wow you know you had no idea has last moments were were approaching and When we check the C would would expect the weekends with his grandchildren. Miller like child seats in the back of his car and Yeah it's just like wow let's it this weekend there will be no weekend with Granddad. This weekend I mean it shouldn't because of the social distancing but it will never be again you know and that's really out. Unfortunately it's amazing. How many stories have gone around and still allow people are not getting ill yeah? I've run into these conspiracies about five g. you know and the installation of five. G. Hours and film your hospital and it's like come on man in the comfort of your living room you know in the bleaches having no idea what people on the front lines go into. This becomes a something it. It's to me. It's disrespectful. You know you scared to go to work on my dedication to the people. I've already made a decision in terms of criminal justice reform. Now every made a decision at the people are worth it This is different. I never saw something like this coming. But again you the call of duty it just it suppresses all of those emotions and you you just focus on getting the job done you know and to me. It's a blessing to be able to be out in the community that I work at now. People recognize me and then they'll come up to me and say I've never you know. Never can't approach a cop and tell them I'm proud of the March But I know who you are thinking for what? You're what you're doing. Thank you for what you've done for us. We feel the difference. You know so that that. That's that's motivation. I in particular have gone out of your way to be critical of the department in many ways And to be somebody who is trying to make the police force better you know and what blowback has. That had For you here because officers don't necessarily want somebody going around policing the department and trying to make them You know follow all the laws and all the rules and be with you know be the best of so they can be you know. I mean the corners get cut people you know and I think people get spoiled perhaps or ruined in a way by the job right because you're constantly coming up against the worst of humanity. People acting their worst or having gone through their worst moments You know I imagine the cynicism Ro role rise up pretty high You know the the sense that humanity is you know is is nothing rides up pretty high. So what has been the impact on you for as you're trying to police or improve the department it's been a combination it's a it's it's three. It's some people are just completely ignorant. Who who I am doing. We just come into work been buried but making sure that check claims to as long as the jet claims every two weeks. They're good to go the Nisbet those who you know they hate they. They hate me. I don't know there's no other word for it. They see me an eyesore on the fact that I'm a supervisor the supervisor's supervisor now And I've been so outspoken. They don't understand why haven't been crushed that on the stand while I'm on the job they see me as anti police if it's your anti-police while you're on the job and even though I'm speaking to create a better police department them to be they just can't see it that we did unable to separate themselves as individuals from the department as an entity. Swim Department gets criticized. They take it very personal. You know it's as if I'm criticizing them individually on which is insane because that's just not the case But then there are those who it with tears in Iraq's Shia their own personal stories of what they went through because of enforcement quotas and having to target black and Brown folks And how thankful they are. That things have gotten a lot better A lot better. A numbers game is not what it used to be and they noticed that it's because of NYPD. Twelve the efforts of myself in others who decided to speak out. So that's been the three people who are ignorant people who actually can't stand the fact that I'd zest and people who very grateful for what I've done. Thanks so much to lieutenant. Raymond for an EPA interview. And thanks to you for listening. And thanks to our Super Producers Brid Jerry Michaels Smith Marcus Carcass. Noel San Montus and Jason Reynolds joins US OVER AT PATRON DOT COM Slash Torah. Show for more from the tender. Raymond get an extra episode. 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NNJ 110: My Corona

Ninja News Japan

14:28 min | 5 months ago

NNJ 110: My Corona

"Okay so basically. My kids are under house arrest. Because the corona virus. And we're making we're making do. We're doing our best a last week. I mentioned that there were rumors primarily Internet based a things that people were talking about like that could stop the corona virus. And of course. They're all actually false. The the most obvious one is drink. Bleach which might kill the corona virus. But you along with it so it depends on how serious you are about results or how literal you WANNA take. It kills the Corona Virus Bob. Here's some of the ones showed up in Japan Sort of Japanese twitter Japanese Internet The ones that have become most common. It's lukewarm water. So between twenty six and twenty seven degrees Celsius will kill the virus which doesn't make any sense because that is lower than your actual body temperature so clearly being really specific was the convincing point for this rumor like if it's warmer it won't kill it if it's colder won't kill it but this exact temperature for some reason stops dead but drinking lukewarm water does keep you hydrated which will help you so. I mean I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Don't drink bleach. I will say that drink water as you know. There's been a shortage face masks. So that's been really common problem. That's facing almost the whole world at this. Point is one of those ones that would have started in Japan really early on and so of course people they want to find ways to reuse the face masks a lot of people have been washing them by hand really gently in hopes that that helps Some people have actually been making their own masks So they can stick filters in and out of them things like that. These are all fine ideas that the average mask is actually made of paper. So it's not really do much for you. So people have been trying to sterilize. Their face masks by putting them in the microwave. The reality of doing that is that if you actually had corona virus and stuck the masking your microwave you if you turn it on you've actually just infected your microwave with krona buyer so that does not work some people. Of course hand. Sanitizer is now scarce. So what is an alternative? Well hand sanitizers really just gel alcohol so other alcohols might work so vodka. Apparently specifically Polish Vodka has sold out in Japan. And that is because people are thinking they will start using that as a substitute hand sanitizer covering your body with sesame oil. We'll block the ability of the corona virus to get into your body That does not work in fact. If you're all covered in oil I bet other liquids that stick to you which is one of the primary ways corona virus spread Means it actually stick better. I'm pretty sure we'll end up being a porn category soon. Now the one thing I mentioned last week I didn't actually understand what it meant because taking granted bath and I there was as interpret that make a bath. Tub Out of granite put granite into your bathtub or cover yourself with granite while sitting in a bathtub or something like that Really the only one that makes sense is putting a granite block into your bath that has been promoted on the Internet again. Falsely that that will kill the virus so you just have a normal bath. You just take a big block of granite and you put it in the bath. And that will that will do it. Then there was the mention of also which is a kind of seaweed is Green Seaweed. And they say that stops corona and it's technically true except it's a different kind of Corona. So what we're actually dealing with his cove in nineteen and the corona that this seaweed stops is actually an animal based version of the virus that we can't get in the first place anyways about this last one the Actual University of the did the study actually said this to try to clarify the issue the press released and its use of misleading language has ended up emphasizing parts. That were not based on facts. So there's the university actually did the study about this seaweed. Killing a version of a virus related to Kovic Nineteen but not cove in nineteen has said that the press has basically been misleading the public with the information. They've decided to emphasize with how they wrote their story to something that I've mentioned a couple times on various podcast because I'm always really big into how something is presented. And then if you actually get into facts the actual details on being plea different if you are caught reselling face masks so these might be newer use. You buy them in your resell them. It is now punishable with up to one year in prison and a one million yen fine last week. You also heard about a man in Aichi. Who knew he was infected with the virus and then decided to go out and go drinking anyways. The police have actually launched a probe to investigate this man. And they're trying to decide basically what to do with them because what actually happened is the owner of one of the pubs. He went to has contracted corona virus. And one of the patrons who is in the same bar has contracted Corona Virus. So basically we know for a fact. He's infected at least two people and the problem is because we know he's infected to people. Those two people unknowingly probably have infected multitudes of others. And that's because the whole point of this virus being so dangerous is so contagious. So easy for people to get because it's on the forefront of everyone's mind even drunk people what happened last week was drunk man was on the train station and he decided to start threatening people saying that he had the virus and he didn't he was just being kind of a drunk. Douche and he was arrested and he was actually arrested for interfering with business practices. Which again is one of those great laws that they can apply to anything as long as you disrupt the business. In any way you can actually be arrested and prosecuted for that so now we have one man who actually went out and seems to have actually gotten other people sick on purpose. Which I'm pretty sure is gonNA be punishable in some way and one man who just decided. Hey I'm not sick but I could least cause some trouble while I'm drunk and get some attention that my father never gave me because I've never been hugged handcuffs. Feel okay so there have been some since we of course want to get into the sexy dirty stuff about the corona virus. There have been some interesting developments in that. There's been a run on on a holes. One holes are a male master batori eight and The boxes can be quite complicated. The product itself. I've never used one but I've seen pictures of them on the Internet and they have Usually the represent an anime character to be honest and says this is what it would feel like if you had intercourse with this enemy character. The sales of sex toys so personal ones has increased by fifty percent in the last week. sex companies that produce sex toys or actually having trouble keeping up with demand and one. German maker of an a type of own a whole said people are exploring new ways to make the best use of their time available Because basically everyone is self quarantining so it means people are at home and they have to find something to do and it might as well try something new while they're at it so I I don't think that's the worst thing you could do. I guess I mean you're not hurting anybody. Soft on demand an adult video production company. It's actually mentioned a couple times. Just because it's one of the biggest companies. Get to talk about it quite often for some reason the name now it just has always stuck in my head. If you WANNA go to porn joke or something in Japan you actually go to soft on demand from March thirteenth of Thirty First. They have decided to make two hundred titles free. Now you still have to sign up with your credit card but once you sign up you won't be charged a fee and then you can go and watch two hundred different movies without paying any money and the statement from the company is. We hope that our customers smile a little. I think actually hope that they do something else. There has been a tripling in the sign up rate since this offer went out and the problem is it actually ended up crashing the servers. So there's one of the newer developments of how the krona virus has affected the sex industry And People's personal practices is maybe the nicest way to say. It is last story this has got nothing to do with Corona virus which is sort of refreshing is kind of back to the original spirit of the podcast in that is just odd and it gives me a lot to think about a lot to ponder about life but in Japan there was a mandating a sex worker and they broke up and he said you know I. I don't necessarily agree with this. I'm not gonNA accept this as easily. I'm going to be romantic. And and not give up on my woman. And he went to her house and then the and he was warned that if he kept doing this kind of thing he would be arrested for breaking the Stalker control loss which is a really interesting title That the government is trying to control the stockers but because the woman was a sex worker and he knew this what he then did was go to a hotel call up the company and it's a dispatch service and the way they get around the law because prostitution sex paying for sex is actually illegal in Japan. But you can pray. Pay For a lot of other stuff. You can actually pay people to go on dates with you. So what happens is called a new service and what you do. Is You pay for a date and the girl comes over. And she goes on a date with you and I might just be a meal or just hanging out or something and then you don't pay for the sex. That happens next but there is of course an expectation that this is just a loophole and get around it that way but because this woman worked for one of these dispatch services all he did was call up and ask for her to come to his hotel and of course then she did so now. He was actually arrested for Japan Stalker Control and he said as he was arrested that the feeling of wanting to see her tops. The thought of being arrested which was a die hard romantic thing but also slightly psychopathic but it does lead to an interesting question. That of course sex workers should be able to choose the clientele. They should be able to refuse. I don't WanNa have sex with this person. I don't want to engage whatever ax. We have maybe talked about with person. They should always have the ability to do that. If he's already paid for the service will there be any sort of obligation of the woman to actually feel like she should go on. Day with a professional pride. What I'm saying and it's an interesting situation. Because this is how she makes. Her money is going out on dates with these guys and spending time with these guys who perhaps she doesn't actually like it. All that is probably the primary source of income is actually going on dates with men. You don't actually find attractive and now here you hit literal definition. Someone you've actually wanted to go out with again and should she professionally. Go on a date with them. Now you can see of course. The answer's no but there's a part of me. That goes well. I mean that is your job and so you. Kinda just refusing to your job now. There's a bit in the story that when she showed up at the hotel she screamed and kind of ran out on the balcony and was actually trying to climb down the side of the building. So I think there was a lot more to this story. That was actually just let on wasn't just like a break-up and the guy still likes the girl I'm betting he since he clearly terrified her there must have been some sort of violent tendencies or she was actually scared for a life or something. So it's a good thing that he's been arrested and put away for the moment Again Japan's punishment of these kind of guys tends to be very hit and miss The rules are applied very irregularly. But at least for the moments he's in violation of Japan Stocker Control Law and has been sort of put away for moment final story that has nothing to do with sex. I think I know it doesn't There was a man in Osaka and he wanted to go baseball now. I don't know if this is related to the virus or not but it actually seems like it isn't and what he did he. He reserved one thousand eight hundred seventy three seats in sort of one area of the in the stands of the Baseball Stadium and then he canceled them except for one the seat he was gonna sit in. This was in an attempt to get fifteen seats space around him. So with social distancing. That sounds like a good idea. The problem is what he actually did when he cancelled. All those tickets was. He caused the stadium. Ten point six million yen and the actual impressive act here more than anything else to do this because they don't sell like these tickets and bowl you because that's just how you get scalpers. You actually have to connect each ticket to some sort of identity. I don't know if it's a driver's license or just a social security number what. I've actually never bought these tickets myself. But I do know you have to provide some form of identification which means he had to make one thousand eight hundred seventy two false identities to get all these tickets reserved in the first place. We cancel them. So you can have that space around them so apparently if you watch this game on TV or news reports the camera sweeps then you can see this big circle of empty seats in this one guy. Sitting in the middle he was arrested again. I don't one hundred percent. Nobody's being arrested for this probably kind of fraud in. That's probably what he's going to be arrested for but the first thing he said was I wanted to watch the game with no people around and again with the virus scare. Maybe that was a sensible thing to do but then he said I wanted to stand on TV which means he wasn't thinking about the virus he was just thinking about doing something that was probably quite selfish and a bit of a. Dick move a bit. It was a dick move and he's probably going to end up getting arrested for it and I I really hope they put him in a crowded cell. Leave a text to a voice question or comment at Voice Link Dot FM slash. Veloce podcast. Click the link in the show description. 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#234 - Corona Virus, It's Gettin' Real

The Basement Yard

1:14:17 hr | 4 months ago

#234 - Corona Virus, It's Gettin' Real

"Guys go check out our patriots where you can get our daily morning show and next week's episode today. Welcome back to the basement yard. Corentin addition. Yon Saying Oh yeah so I gotTa make you louder on I if people could see how fucking makeshift this whole thing is. It's just amazing. They could see it. I literally have my camera on top of a Coca Cola fucking piggy-bank type of thing. Yeah I'm sitting on my floor and I can't feel my feet so it's GonNa be a great episode sitting on your feet while I'm sitting Indian style. Saw a couple adjustments justice. You can't say Indian style it's a it's a criss cross applesauce which I don't know. Chris Cross applesauce native Americans. No you can't say that either. I don't think Oh shit. 'cause they all don't sit that way. I don't know. Did they sit that way? I've never seen a native American set. That's I've only seen them. They're always up and moving. They're always up and moving and gathering anyway hunter but everything cool with anybody know anything. No well we're all locked doors so there's that yeah remember when I said that Corona virus is going to be a thing and you're not come on man like three that and that's not true true yes no it one hundred percent is because I was like. Hey man this is gonna be a thing of you know. Look at the statistics now. I can't go outside this doing with. I don't have a project that I'm doing. You're you're in China and three people have it and the number of false. Go back to the tape the tape. Yes so I I honestly. I don't remember but I will say this. I didn't think it wasn't going to get here. I just didn't think we were going to be like you know we can't go outside. It's Kinda crazy though how you become like you did. A complete one eighty. You're like dude. No one's going to get this not at all. I didn't say that Ronan now. No I'm just kidding. You were like yeah like no one's GonNa get Corona. It's not you know it's not a big deal. Like swine. Flu was worse. They closed my school. They closed the Earth Duck. They did the close. The world is closed. I know that's crazy closed. Dude this is crazy. Thank God though. Electricity can't get the fall and drizzly could get the flu if you if I didn't have wi fi or like the internet or anything. I would've probably like the next time you saw me. You could has no eyebrows. He dyed his hair purple and half. Tom Hanks I look at. I looked like Tom. Hanks in cast the pace. Because you can't get haircut. No we can't go get haircuts. That's how booze you we are though. We won't cut her own hair so we'll just look like shit until we can get like one hundred dollar baseball. I would look really fucking bad if I tried to cut my own hair. Yeah me too so I'm not even. I'm afraid I'm afraid to come out here. I've I've got. I went to Costco yesterday. I did we'RE PROTECTIONS FOR SOME TIME. I wore protection and I was honestly at a point where I thought I had to stop in thinking the store like Yo like all. These people are probably in fear for their lives. I'm not really afraid. Though for some reason I'm afraid for other people's lives she plug that check it out Thursday. But it's crazy hell like as the youth we have control now but like we do what we have control the World Bro. Not because it's like if we go outside the whole Earth get sick. That's how I look. We get sick too. Yeah but if we get sick so some of us are going to die. I'm risk is Fox. Yeah you're diabetic. Dan widsom as Matt. I'm a yeah yeah I got asthma. Asthma real bad diabetes so oh underlying conditions. Galore over their underlying conditions boy. That should be minute. That's would be my rap name underlying conditions. It's spelled Z. Underlying underlying like a lion. Yeah Yeah they call me on the line conditions. Should I come sick already? Yeah but that's what it's going to be. I know but I was walking around Costco and I was looking at the people and I was like. Oh my God. These people are all afraid of dying. People are fucking dropping like flies. It was like eight hundred people who died yesterday in fuck and Italy or something. I love that New Yorkers just become like the Mecca for corona though. It's obvious I mean it's the Meko the world but it's just the thing is up people are going to New York. It's the typical New York Shit. First of all everyone was just kind of like yeah. Whatever it's going to happen but it's not a big deal then everyone's getting it and we're like Oh shit and like no one gives a fuck still. I went to the park the other day to do a workout in the park. There was like no one around me. There's twenty five kids playing basketball. I'm like what the fuck are you guys doing like do not have you is what's happening here. Have we become old enough to tell people to go home? I mean I don't have the heart to do that. I'm a pussy so I can't really be like. Hey get out of here. I'm so afraid to tell. A group of kids go up tower terrified of kids. Because I'm afraid they'll like put me in like a weird tick tock and make me look like an asshole or something like Dab on me or some shit you know what I mean. I'm just afraid to be. Hey kids should probably go home. It's shut up. You'll fuck. Damn I don't think anyone call us probably diabetes shut up your pump asthmatic bitch. Shut up and take your a beautiful fish. Yeah but I don't know man. This whole thing is kind of crazy Ah Part of me wants to like believe that none of this is real. And that's just a conspiracy theory that is based on nothing all here. This a part of me feels like it should be good. No no no no. It's what I meant by not realize I feel like way. More people have it and they're not telling us well. Yeah obviously like way more people have this fucking thing and everybody fucking knows it like in the government and they just don't want to tell us so we don't flip the Fox. I think that's why there's all stay home. I think that like already people know that a bunch of people have it. The only reason why the none of the cases aren't that high is because we haven't been able to test but then Cuomo got on. Tv It was like Oh we did ten thousand tests yesterday and then the next day we had like fucking four thousand more cases. So it's like as you do more testing where things are GONNA come out. But they project at like forty percent of the country's GonNa get forty percent of the countries that Oh my God I'm fought. Just don't leave your house dude. It's hard for me not leave my house. I love so many things. I have left your house in the middle of this thing and got fucking hand Tattoo. I saw that dig ahead hand. You got hand tattoos. Yeah got multiple tattoos. And that's why you can't leave me alone for more than I know. I was worried I was like. I WanNa go help Danny. Because he might get a face tat coming days but I actually. I actually called to get more tattoos. But she was dude. We're not doing anything and I was like I feel you but like can I come get another tattoo. What you're going to get something like an elephant first off. Let's see the tattoos as you have the tattoos that have it's a if they could see him might the punch. It's a X. on my finger and it's across on my hands because we need. Jeez yeah now more than ever everybody needs Jesus. Don't be picky. You know what I'm saying. I think I think everybody needs to talk to Jesus a little bit. I prayed tonight's did. You went great. Yeah did I prayed for the first time in like I. I'm a long long time. Mike and I swear it and I don't want to sound crazy. But he answered me. He answered me. He told you to get those tattoos. No he said hey cool tattoo now you could talk to me. I wasn't sure about you but now Jesus sure about me for sure that was him. Yeah no I think it was my downstairs. I think so as well then I tell the story on here but I have my neighbor. Chase me up the street and melt. We haven't recorded in so long just so everyone knows it's Sunday at one thirty right now. Also if I have a little bit of a Lisp it's because I have one of those like tastebuds things that like. It's a little sore or whatever you have like a little like a inflamed. Taylor. I'm I've been talking like I have retainer like it because it hurts so bad. Those are the absolute worst. I Hate Shit. I hate those. Those are the worst but people are dying and we have canker sores. I'll take that any day. I don't even have a canker sore. That's the thing you know what I mean. I have some way easier to deal with in that. But what the fuck is a canker? It's comes derives from the word anchor. So it's just like you know it holds you down and then Like sugar cane. It's a symbol of shrimp. So it's a strong anchor of sore funny though. Also the how people are dying people were like. Yeah you guys coming out on Monday. Yeah I think and and part of me wants to be like do. What are you talking about within a part of me is like you know? We got to be a beacon of hope. Close close to Batman as I'm ever going to get I can lift up communities with you of course but like you know what I'm saying we can lift up communities like change the world and Shit being. Pull this back okay. You don't you don't think we're changing the one podcast could be the canker of a community for sure. Thank you canker this canker this hunger down canker the humidity and we'll be fine. You know what I mean no but I do understand people saying that because like for me dude like spending all this time inside is just you know. I have to like today before we before God here to start recording. I like just drove around for an hour like I just had to like change. The scenery went outside my car in your car which has recycled air in it. And you're breathing in fucking you can't get it from the air. Yeah you can do. If you're within six feet is anyone that has leave your car. Maybe your car if there's a fucking infected man in my trunk. Ha breathing into my backseat. That maybe I have a year but I think that's not the case or it. Can we get into how drunk you can you know Joe? So drunk. One had superb wine teeth. Just superb. Wine Yeah you look I just got laid off from your job at like bed bath and beyond like like retired mom and I was like. This woman is way yeah. Was that the drunk issue. Vincent's Nashville Pride. Judging by how everyone was talking to me. Yeah Yeah you know what it was about spot. Yeah I'm not. I'm not happy about it. I actually hate when that happens. I've been noticing that I get really fucking like upset with myself when I get that trump for some reason. I don't know what it as soon as I saw. How drunk you were. I said I cannot wait to talk to Joe Tomorrow. He's GonNa not feel good now man. I really hated and then you told me. I called my mom retard on instagram. Live and I was like Jesus you called your mom. A retired on instagram. Live for the world to see a lot. My Mom's here well moms moms retard and I was like you know what let's call it. I think that I'm going to blame everyone around me for not being like all right. That's enough of the phone. Yeah maybe they should've slowed you down for sure. Well there was. There was no slow on the train. That was the problem because I had a bunch of like want because we made stakes that night so I was like oh perfect excuse to drink some wine and that alice listening to our sitting outside because it was a beautiful day out that day it was gorgeous. We've had a lot of beautiful days during this fucking pandemic. Yeah but I. I had some red wine and steaks and I'm sitting outside also into the youth lagoon album. Sasha's in that like fucking I'll just like enjoying my time with my family and then you know one thing led to another and then I'm face down on the floor. Playing Mario Kart somehow coming in second place. I mean as long as you play Mario Kart. That's all that's all. Yes are you going to take a drinking hiatus now? I don't think you can this pandemic. I wish I still rank during this pandemic. I'll tell you that I'm not gonna I'm not gonNA take hiatus I'm not gonNA make anymore proclamations. That's I'm like giving up for lent even a apparently it is. I didn't know that but I didn't know it was either all fucking Easter. Aw It's not one of a huge holiday anyway. Easter is a huge holiday dude foodwise. And it's fucking. Jesus came back on huge news. We're going to have to. Jesus could happen to take a longer nap this year. Yeah is Jesus. GonNa be like the Groundhog as we need. Jesus to see shadows this year in Corona virus having. He didn't see his shadow guys. It's three more months three months. Do this fucking crazy to think about like the first couple of days like now. I feel like I've as the days go on. I think it will get easier. And I've kind of accepted the fact that this is going to be my life for the. I'm assuming through the summer this quarantine like stay away from people think is going to last for yes. It's GonNa last month for months. Yeah and I'm just like I'm just kind of preparing myself for that and like but here's the thing right if everyone does what they're supposed to do and just stays inside right like if you just stay in your apartment and you like you go outside and take a walk or do whatever like that but if you don't go to a party or some shit or like a bunch of people then in parties are cool though part is great but if you do that then like fifteen twenty days. We'll know for sure that none of us have it. Or if we did have it as out of your system like Blah Blah Blah and then we might be able to spend time together. You know what I mean Josh. One hundred percent had it and I hope you're fucking watching Josh. You fucking had that Shit. Because he was. My throat is fucked. Up and Josh is a one the be sick in call out. That's my job. Yeah that's the modern job. That's so soon gonNA so someone's GonNa take that job from me. It better be corona and I think he had corona and I'm not trying to make light of corona. 'cause I know people are dying but you gotta find some comedy within this thing. Oh yeah that's what I feel so much has happened. Tom Brady to the buck. In the era of what the fuck was that all these people are getting traded. And it's like dude like you can't even go to the other city that you just by knowing that but like there's no sports there's no nothing. Yesterday I watched four movies. You Watch four visas. I watched goodwill hunting. Def- good will hunting d three mighty ducks d three mighty ducks great fan. I watched a creed to all great. American's creed does okay. It's the same movie. Yeah no I'M GONNA fight this guy. You shouldn't fight him. I can't train you dammit. Oh I'm going to train you now. We win did stallone. Like have any of those like fucking where you can't this is it. I mean all of them here. You go ahead down. You got a full do all that. Apparently I would love. I would love to hear semester. Stallone address the nation on Chrome Advice. No you gotTA fight. No this is not how Berry Times you get. Corona does get Gerona it just environment fuck. Her dogs can get corona now dog show. No two there was like two cases and they were weak positives. Whatever the fuck that means. I don't know what that means. Let me tell you something if something's a weak positive it's why what's a Straw Pas. It's like hey what's up dude. You got issue this week HIV. I don't WANNA I don't WanNa Week. Hiv YOU got weak. Beatty's I still got the beatty's you do you do have the week. Beatty's right I do. I do have week. Beatty's type too tight. One people come from our neck. Yeah Yeah Yeah. You don't allow you sell developed this curse. Yeah you don't have one of these bracelets 'cause but yeah. I felt like I was slowly going insane. Also I'm trying to stay away from all the news or whatever because it's just depressing and it's just like did you see what did you see? Cuomo and his brother talking. Yeah what the fuck was that? I think there was just fucking around me. You were brothers which come fill it related and I was news anchor and you were the governor and I was like if you call mom yet like come home professional now. I think there were joking around to be honest. Also I'll say this right Cuomo crushing it. Cuomo'S NOT BACKING DOWN. Cuomo like anything. I don't know his track record. I don't know anything about Cuomo to be honest with. You are not dealing with the fuck and you know the whole pandemic thing. I think he's crushing it for New York. But we'll see I'm just afraid of. I just been on news from twitter. Yeah so like. I see whatever's breaking on there or what's about to be said I love that people like spoil Joe Spoiler alert like state of emergency trump's GONNA announce it three o'clock dude first of all how many. How many fucking text messages have you gotten in the past three days with everyone being like yo? My brothers sisters aunt works for the CDC and Marshall Loss coming. And we're not going to be able to breathe anymore so lock your doors and you're like what it. I didn't know that everybody had a sibling. In the what is that is ten. That is taking time out of their day to text. What's up you know the entire government shutting down in five. Oh my uncle founded the FBI and his mother-in-law works inside of the virus and she knows where it's Gong all right yourself so my grandfather worked on the actual original corona the Kovin one so he knows how this is going to progress so you have to make sure to get as much toilet paper as you can because once it gets the Cova Twenty three. They have to shut down the entire. That's another thing. What is the obsession with the toilet? Paper what is that people that worried about. How many shits or people taking like dude? I have I bought paper literally once since I've lived here. It's been almost two years. You buy a big thing ascot's and you. I bought a finger toilet paper when I moved in here. And it's still here also. I have taken some of the best of my life during this entire defined best. Just perfectly wiping double tapered. Amazing chess just coming out like a hard rock. Yeah it's just like I'm literally like an assembly line just passing it off just giving it the last stamp Nice. It's all like pooping like an inner football yet. It's perfect it's perfect. How's your family? Been THERE GOOD. Keep it in good spirits. I guess I like basically moved into my mom's house because I I feel like being by myself. I'm going to say so. I have my all my video games and shit or at my mom's house and put them in the basement so that being Keith because Keith's like pc set up his down there so he like play call of duty or whatever the fuck you WanNa do and there's a pull out couch down there so I sleep there and I come here during the day to work or whatever the hell I need to do. This in a weird way has kind of been like Christmas break for dolts and I know some people are. It's a long break. It's a law is just like remember when we went to college for five minutes. Yes it would. It'd be like yeah. I can't wait to get to Christmas because you're off for a month. Yeah College kids out. They understand how amazing they have it. It's I do. Do you go to school for a couple of months. You do a whole bunch of drugs. You get drunk. You have weird sex and then when Christmas comes around you get a whole month off. They don't even care if you're Ju- whole month off again a whole month auto doesn't matter who Jesus or God is. He got a whole month. Aw and their summer starts in May. It's a great time. You got good like life. GotTa state helpfully. I love the people down in Florida though that are just getting wasted and party all right. I'm going to say this because I forgot about that until right now. Those fucking idiots data in Florida like Bro. GonNa just like I get it like. It's my fucking birthday brother like fuck one knows a global pandemic right now but it's just turned twenty one and I got a fucking take ice luge out of a girl's asshole to celebrate. I don't care about Korea and it's like I'm not GonNa die like I'm not fucking eighty five with a breathing problems. It's like dude. You are a fucking idiot. You're that's not my fault of eighty four zero people have respiratory issues on fucking Fibro fucking to and who knows what kind of shape. Those kids lungs are all the juuling. That's probably going on. Yeah a lot of a lot of Julie tons of join h but those those fucking idiots man like anyone who is still going out and spending time with people in like doing this doing that to just stop like the only time that I see anyone that is in my immediate family now. Is I go to the park and work out with like a S Bowen. Ralph but like we're not like fucking spot in each other spit in each other's mouths and you know that kind of work out. I mean that's a good worker. Yeah I don't mind the thing I'm worried about the most is that. Just give me a timeline. GimMe a time line at some point. This is like two more months. We'll be OK. The fact that we don't know is we can literally be doing this for the next seven months. Yeah well the thing is. I think we're going to be completely different. People and I'm GONNA get fat. I need to start exercising like immediate. Should I worked so hard to get down to this way. I tell you this right now if I see another fucking two huge things in its Elliot's I'm afraid to open one. I'll do once you open at Pandora's Box Pandora's box tell is so attractive that I only want to say what I thought about doing this having sex I said just just continuously dipping just continuously dip. I can eat in. I have six pounds in Telhami House. Jesus why the fuck did you buy so much to tell? What was the plan because because the Costco and then when you go to Costco you realize this is for people with families. And I'm like I'll do it anyway. Do I have so much slice roasted Turkey. I could handed out for fucking thanksgiving. Yeah a fur coat fetus. Entire COSCO's crazy man costco. You should only go to if you're starving because you go there and they're like well you could get one box of honey combs for two thirty five or you can get fifteen boxes. Alcoves out to eighty nine cents a box. Well I'M GONNA get fucking boxes then you're going to have to go with these box. And then they handed out samples. Because that's dangerous. That's dangerous. There were no there. Were no good. They're no samples. Given and I was very upset about that. But the other thing that I was upset about too is that somebody stole. I had my first queens robbery so I so I moved to Queens. Yeah everybody knows. I moved to Queens so I'm living in Queens now and I. I think I've officially become a member of because somebody stole my delivery and I think that's the most queens thing that can happen to you. It's almost like an initiation so if you don't know me very well I don't have a couch. I'll tell you this if I wasn't forced to buy a couch right. I was forced to buy a couch and I said to myself by this couch couches find. That didn't get stolen but I bought two bedside lamps to buy this couch lamp jet. Yeah I got lamp jacked Dan. Yeah and then to pillow Jack to. They Stole Two bells. Hello Jack to you and they jack. You're lamp pillow Jack. The Shit Adamy pillow jacked. That also sounds super awesome to. Oh if they put to your penis have between two pillows in fucking jail. I'm just saying just the I mean not R- I don't know really where I was going with that. I just know like pillow Jack to sounds like it would be kind of some on your prom night. Yeah pillow jet like I got pillow jacked. It's like a like an introduction to a hand. Yeah or like a pseudo tit. Fuck or something. You know what's weird? There's probably going to be pseudo tit. Fuck you look. You know what's weird though? There's going to be a lot of corona virus based porn now. Yeah I saw that on porn hub. I saw like a screen shot on twitter of like super masks like kissing. Should be like Kovin. Patient gets anal hungry. Like what is this like what what is this. What's going yeah? Have you been eating? Been eating like Oh yeah. Shoot but like really good dude. I took a shitty other day and it just smelled like I'm trying to think of just like mint. You took a ship that smells like it was like it was like dirt. There was some dirt but like all you mean like mint condition or like the I mean the Erg the leaf Mojo. Yeah Dude and smelled like ocean drive South Beach. I was like doing it was we and I haven't had anything mentally. I don't really like the minty. Smoking drugs in I was like Oh shit I was just like what is I thought I was going to say. I thought there was something wrong with me. I was like wait what what is happening here though. It might have been the coffee that I had because I had coffee at my mom's house it was some. I don't know what the Fuck brand it was and I was like. Is this making my poop? Smell like a sunny beach. Whatever whatever's coming in whatever you put in I gotta go 'cause I'm on my Smell speaking poop. I came home yesterday in my entire apartment. Smelled like everyone on my block into my living room and took a shit because you live near like the water. Yeah and I was like who broke into my apartment forty for three hours in the left and then still Martin for three hours. I came in here as soon as the door opened. It felt like somebody farted into my mouth was nothing I could do about it. And you know like when you're fighting a bunch of your room lingering. Yeah that's what it smelled like if it smelled like goldilocks came in here and just shit in every room. Yeah and so she found the right way to shit and as she never found the right route should just again go. She went to the neighbor. Yeah so it smelled so bad and I I was so embarrassed like to be like like I'm just living dwelling in the shit's yeah corona's shit smell you who's Tariana sometimes fuck you ever so much during the day you just start laughing at every after it's like now it's just did first of all I'll say this just had fucking food poisoning wherever that twenty four hour bug was when I was in Vermont major diarrhea but one thing one one silver lining with major diary. Is that my body? I guess from just like forcing out stuff sucks in a bunch. Yeah and I'm dude. I'm setting it off. Its dude like dislike long fucking dude. If dip low lived in my apartment he would have sampled one of my farts and made a fucking hit record with. There's nothing better. There's nothing better than suck and Aaron through so you know it's definitely top three yeah dude. It's any giggle so much after y'all sucking air bottled you ever been like laying in bed and then you fart but it comes out extremely hot and you go okay. I got to hunker down here and just like really pulled split. Because I can't smell that I like to do before I like lifting my leg so it goes out that way and not towards me. You ever do you ever do. I think we've talked about this for for the New People New People to share you ever pull one s sheikh apart so you could get a silent like air. Yeah it's like something so 'cause it hits your other ash-sheikh and that's fine ripples out that way but I love spreading my blood important forty. Yeah think Oh my God I wanted to tell you you know. We made that joke where it wasn't job as a real life but like when you far on the toilet bowl and it makes that sounds like so so dude at the other day. I didn't even feel like I had too far and I think this is just from eating like fucking Torito's I eight three days in a row. I had a chocolate bar. Just like a Hershey's chocolate bar just randomly like not even in the mood for just eighty because it was there. I just been eating because I'm just like I don't know what else to do. I'm like well might as well eat doing nothing. I'm going to be discussing free but I didn't even feel like I had far and I sat down on the toilet in the morning and two gigantic farts shocked the world dude. They came flying at me and I was so confused I was like how because you know. Yeah of course I. It was a surprise. I always love them. My Body surprises me. Like if I get impressed by my own are you. Eating gloppy. Also freezing cold now. Coffee Super Cold. Now to another thing I wanted to ask you though is. Are you still like genuinely worried for like your close family or you genuinely worried for like just the earth? Now I'm I'm I am not too worried about my don't immed- word about my mother. Obviously she's sixty four years old so but but also she doesn't have to go back to work and she's not going to go anywhere. I already told her that she can't leave and smart. She shouldn't go anywhere she doesn't need to go and yes she doesn't. She has everything she needs there. So I think I feel alright about my immediate family. Because I know we're doing the right thing and we're not like doing unnecessary travel. We're not going here Blah Blah Blah. Like I had to go to Brooklyn to meet up with Greg but we were outside. You know we were like walking and walking around and not spending a lot of time like sitting next to each other like going to like a crowded coffeeshop or do anything. Anything crazy like that. As long as we're not doing that I feel okay. I do think that a lot of people are GonNa die though. I think a ton of a ton of people are going to die because of just the hospital situation. We're not able to like their overrun. And they're gonNA it's GonNa be it's GonNa become something like with Italy in Italy. They had to start telling people over the age of eighty or even seventy like. We're just not going to treat you because you don't have a good chance of surviving because it's not love ventilators. Doctors not enough beds. So they're gonna I heard from someone who like has heard from my aunt's twice removed. Father that there was an ICU that they set up for patients that are strictly a thirty five years old and younger. A smart though. They should do that because those people are going to like. They're more than likely make it but people who are older that have some stuff like they they might not and if they're going to have to start making decisions like that like that's GonNa be fucked up and that's why. I'm trying to distance myself from the news because like I know that's coming like I know it's GonNa come where they're gonNA start saying people are gonNA start dropping like flies and it's already started in Italy. Eight hundred people died the other day and then in Germany. I think they had like a fucking they had a day with. Hundreds of people died. Also that's just going to start happening here dude like it's just going to. It's just gonNA happen like we can't handle the amount of people that are coming into the hospitals. Yeah I'm legitimately afraid like just for like anyone that I know. That is somewhat fifty. Yeah because then if it gets that point where like they're like Yo. You just can't treat you like you're too old and too far gone like you're just going to be dead like that's horrible reason the dad. Yeah man I mean it says like yeah. That's why we have to say what that's why I was saying. It goes back to my point about why young people kind of have some power here to sustain the fuck home. Yeah just don't be fucking stupid like it's not about you personally. It's about like everyone else like you know like I just Wanna be able to like. I am optimistic that I don't think it's going to be over by June. I think probably I think this will last until we have a vaccine. I don't think it's GonNa go anywhere until then but I'm optimistic that by June. We can lift some of the like things that are in place. Now maybe you could be in groups of ten now or you can be in groups of tomorrow. It'll slowly work. Its way back but I mean I don't know dude like it's trash. I heard they closed. Jfk for a little bit yesterday. Yeah because Somebody somebody popped puffer positive. I don't doubt it and they were like have you got shut down for a little bit of doubt it man when we flew to Austin and it was a fucking ghost town and JFK. There was no one in there. Yeah it was I walked right through security like it was like nothing felt sick as soon as I got off the plane. Yeah it's scary and Joe has not wanted to see me since Joe has been like my fucking dad the last two weeks he's like where'd you go to? Where have you been? What did you do today? Where are no what are you doing? Who are you ally? What what time are you coming home? I was just like Oh my God no because you fucking new content attachment you because you have to come in here and I gotta fuck old ask mom and I see yes true and also. You're out here going to fucking car bone fucking pottery class. Take an uber. Like there's not a deadline around are- let me do pottery piece. What does this and I was a ghost and I felt like Patrick. How'd you do? I did fucking awesome dude. I made a little coffee Creamer Cup which was to have it It it got glazed and then everyone got sick. So it's not gonna come okay but It was cool. It was a very cool experience and I actually went to carbone the last night than they close. Yeah and I've been in quarantine ever since. Listen guys I love every body and especially. I know when people are right. I should know what the rest I should have. I should enough and I feel bad about that. No why feel bad. No because everyone was young people were people were mad at you. Man came from my head. Wow really people cook coming from neck and I love everybody and it's hard to know it's really hard though and I'm not blaming this on. Why car bomb really but like Going to get serious for saying but like there's people are they do understand a lot of people with mental health issues like staying inside. All the time is is horrible. So it's like I was like I had to live some kind of a normal life but then it just got worse and worse and worse than the news and like everything's just sort of closing closing so now like if I don't go outside for a walk or something like I'll lose my fucking while you're not alone that the same exact way like I'd have to leave. You know have to be able to go outside. And even that's another thing my mom's house like if by if. I don't think this will happen. But if they tell like you can't leave your property like she has a backyard and a front yard so at least. I'll be able to be outside. It's like you know and the other thing too is now getting to a point. It's a hell fuck. Am I gonNA get my medications like you'll be able to do that? This mad shit. You'll be able to do that. I hope so. They're not going to cut that off like they're not gonNA shut supermarkets. They're not GonNa shut like you know the essentials at this non essential businesses are shut down. 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There was no cinnamon. It was a plethora strawberry. That's all the plethora strawberry thirty six and bought thirty six. Because that was the only thing they sell a costco. They WANNA feed small armies and Hispanic families and they gave it to me. Yeah that's what it is. They knew they're not terrible. They knew the Hispanic side of me was GonNa Crack when I saw the pack and I did and I broke nice. I broke. I let me ask you a question. Ask Away triscuits your Nay. Do I have a glass of water around? Yes there is water so I'll take it then. Creek triscuits are good fucking quarantine snack their corn snack there. What's your top five corn snacks? Who is one? I've had a pop tart during this us. More pop tart more pop star. I had US more pop. Dr That I'LL BE HONEST. I've been crushing Hamas or as I like to call it Ju- butter Hamas is Ju- that's what it is. You're so I've been one hundred. Have a bunch of these in my fridge. Just like little like Servings of it it's a little thing yet. Apps everywhere Thomas's great dip chips or pretzels. Or whatever you wanted to that. Ju Ju Yeah So. That's what it is you know. Put It you put it on toast you put whatever and Jews and Jewish people love Hamas and. It's amazing and I was late to the fucking party as far someone goes but it's great and this one is the roasted Red Pepper. Hamas fucking fire. Aw roasted red peppers Hamas is fantastic. I love homeless. I love. I don't have any home is here though. And it's it's you know what satiated as well so it keeps you a full. What what. What's that word satiate. Satiate S- like what the fuck to satiate me. Say It's not a word yes it is. There's no way that the words satiate. Israel's up can you hear this out. I'll turn it up over socialism. Say Sheet satiate like satiate. You could say she ate it. We know you did. He say she say she did right. Now tell me she eight right now. Say Hey yeah this is my top five corn snacks triscuits hint assault or olive oil and herb fantastic pop tarts s'mores and they're strawberry got to sitting in my lap right now they're cooking because my undercarriages steaming hot route three little seaweed snacks Garbage how are they glide hating? So it's like eating Korean barbecue. Flaw actually good. Yeah Yeah. Those are the Korean barbecue. Flavor is foolish so got school. Age squash four peanut butter filled pretzels. Oh yeah you got a tub of that and you just start to shrine that I then five. I've been sneaking little tablets and this is how you save your intelligence at home. Put Your Mattel in the fridge. Oh don't leave it out because then diseases gooby good. Yeah that you just spoon feed it to yourself die. Yeah forty three. Yeah but if you put a of you put it in the fridge and let it hard and a becomes like a little snack that you just lick the spoon for a little bit just gets all over your mouth and then it's all gloom and then melts in your mouth and melts down your throat and then all the way down yourself a gun into your into your stomach isn't Safa Guy. Yeah it's more than a sophist Safa Guy. That's that's Sapporo version damned. Shame that's trying to Satiate myself a guy taking spoonfuls or are you dip and stuff now because I fast in the morning. I don't really eat 'til like noon or one o'clock so sometimes at night. I like to sneak into the kitchen. Like a little Puerto Rican mouse and I'll sneak in there and I'll be like what's this and another thing. I have to ask you to after this because I was. I was floored. Danny lives alone sneaking into his own kitchen off to sneak into my kitchen. No one's around. There's something about sneaking into your own kitchen at one o'clock in the morning feeling like you could get caught by. No one like your mom's bed I still feel like my mom is in here and she can. Do you remember how hard it was to make a sandwich at like one in the morning when you were a kid. That shit was like trying to like the hurt locker. I was just like Yo like I need to be as quiet as possible to fucking get this fucking sandwich. Yeah peanut butter. Do you put it in the fridge or you leave it out out. This is news. I fought peanut. Butter always refrigerator fridge thing. Peanut butter is a fridge. You cannot fridge your peanut butter. You fridge peanut butter especially if it's all natural and it gets fucking disgusting and it looks like it's been sweating overnight but no but the fucking peanut butters especially like natural. Peanut butter is already like quicksand. It's impossible to spread it now. You're gonNA make it hard. I like to freeze my butters. I'll I'll freeze a butter. I'll freeze a butter. Yeah I do like though a nice grape jelly shit. It's not my favorite strawberry jam. Fox hoed I would like walking through a very jelly dude. I Have Strawberry Jelly here and I just had it on a Chris chillier jam Jelly or jam. It's jammed Janice Shrug. But what do you prefer Jim for sure? Jams are better than jellies. The difference is like the seeds right. I think the difference is the seeds and like the good the fucking it's like sifted through a bunch of body parts Jelly and what the fuck is a Marmalade? I don't know I think that's just normally. It is normally is a mix of Jillian. Jim I think I duNno lead. Yeah and then there's another one a spread. No no no no. It's like Marmalade Jelly Jam. And then there's like a fuck another one. What is it? Marmalade MARMALADE. Marzipan MORASS PAM. Is that a anti-debt is I duNno. Bro Marmalade some weird shit. Another thing I put in the fridge to or sometimes in the freezer grapes. Yeah we went over that. That's not a bad idea for frozen grape is a is a great idea. I bought two huge bottles of lemon juice. What the fuck. You're not really prepared for this whole thing right dude. I'm not prepared. Why do you have so much lemon juice? What do you need it for? What are you making? You can make an fucking. What's that fucking Shit? Called the lemon chicken chicken Jason Shaking Franchise fucking every night. I'll make a franchise you do. You eat garnish. If a meatball comes with a Basil Leaf on top or are you gonna eat the Basil Leaf sometimes? Sometimes take it off or you're not supposed to take it off. Sometimes I take it off. But then like if it's if it's too ingrained in the meatball like their sauce on top of it might well. This is part of the ball now. I gotta eat that ball. I'm saying can we talk about Donald Trump trump? No idea what's going I do. I have no idea what's going on. But he has no idea what's going on. I people read him things and he's like all right. We'll do that. The biggest thing with him is that how he said that. These two fucking. I don't even know like these two medications or whatever he's like when you take them it soon great job and then the doctor gets on right after him and goes. Don't do that because we don't know the doctor said that he was like no also fucking Dr Fao Chiro. Fuck his name is he. Looks like the old grandpa from eight crazy nights. He gets up and he was like listen. Don't do whatever the fuck you just said because we have to run tests okay. That's that's how science and medication works. All right we're going to test this. He looks like the Butler from wedding. Crashers he's not a priest like father. Go take a bus stop. Does confidence yeah. I bought so much though Pellegrino. Poppy Yeah I just I just have Hamas and like Seltzer and I have to cauliflower pizza crusts whereas I'll probably fire one up like as soon as we're done here one hundred percent one hundred percent. Yeah I've been the days of kind of been going fast though for some like it. Who'd it's kind of scary like it's just another day down another day down in this. Weird Corona versus. You know. What's The craziest part is like? I feel like we're losing time in our lives. Which is a bad way to look at it. Like this is how I I originally was looking at it of being like fuck dude if this lasts until September. We just lost all that time. But that's a very pessimistic way of looking at one hundred the most pessimistic outlook on life. I've ever but it's like hard. It's hard to know I agree with you I. It's hard to lake see at first that this could be a positive in a way because you have to try and be as positive as possible but it's like during this time now you have so much time to create new habits and it's like you you. You can't be distracted by bars. Restaurants like work to disagree sports. There's just a lot of time a lot of free time for you to do whatever the fuck you WanNa do. And it's like are you GonNa Complain the whole time because this could be months. You'RE GONNA complain. The whole time and not productive are going to start creating new habits starting to like you know. Put some things in place so that when things do go back to normal. You're better for than you were going in one. H- any better myself and the and the other thing is too. It's like even you even you said you've been doing some emotional tweets. Yeah because my boys emotionally tweeting and I feel no now. I'm not making fun of not making funny. He's he's been emotionally tweeting. This should be a great time for you to just build. Whatever relationship that you have whether you're family significant other whatever take the time out and talk to some people even if it's via tax and all that Shit just go out there. Facetime your family. Thank God Corona hasn't affected the Internet. Yet you know it's just been really nice to be able to just talk to people about life and about you know their distant cousin in the CIA. Who's planning the law? But it's been really. It's been really really nice also to do that. I was telling my sister the other day because we were sitting at the beginning of the wine night and I was feeling nice and I was still coherent but I was like. I saw this post on instagram. I put it on my story of like. It was like a six swipes of different examples of people in Italy. Like making the best of their situation and it was like a guy with a DJ DJ equipment out on his balcony and he was blessed music. People going crazy. There was all people dancing on their balconies. There's people singing doing whatever you and like. That kind of stuff makes me so happy because it's like we were kind of forced into doing that and I know it's not a person that like the virus isn't a person but I like to imagine that if the virus had some sort of conscience that it would it would be. It would see those post and be like Jesus. What do I have to do to break these people spirits? But it's like I just love as a great outlook but I keep telling people. I'm kind of looking forward to seeing how creative people can get with how to pass their time. 'cause no one's just going to completely give up and and just sit in their house and not do anything like they're gonNA think of ways and like humans are just like that where they create really cool things out of nothing and like this is a time where we're very limited what we can do but people are doing stuff like they're having like a happy hour's over facetime and everyone's like drinking and talking together and like that kind of stuff is like really cool to me and that's what makes me feel like happy. It makes me feel good because it's like I like to see where humans can kinda push it and it's nice that a in a time where there's a fucking worldwide pandemic and people are dying like whatever like people are trying their best to stay in good spirits and it's just that part just like dope to me. I like that a lot. I would've never made corn titties. Exactly you know what I'm saying so I think this is the best time for people to just try like you said. Find some new hobbies or expand on some hobbies even trying to like you know nail down. This has been a long three months of a year And it's only going to get longer. It looks like so you gotTa try and just put yourself in the best position. The kind of better yourself with I think like you said now having bars and having restaurants having places to really go the sides really the Internet you should be. You should try to be creative. Even if you don't feel like a creative person is a great time for you to try and get out there and actually pursue those things you WanNa do. 'cause everybody's home that's what. I'm also thinking about like social media and Shit like that. You'll everybody's home everybody's on their phone. Yeah if if you're going to do anything this time this is the time all right. E mail that producer. Email that wever. Try to get on as much as you can. 'cause everybody's check falls right now so try and do that. Try to see the good in this fucking Wacky Shit. That's going on and masturbate. Also that's cool to like I feel like this whole thing has made. The world feels so small because like I'm checking. I'm checking in on German News on Italy Italy doing this and that and it just feels like there's nothing more unifying than like a common enemy. You know. We're all kind of facing this thing so it's like we're all kind of on the same team kind of like going through this whole thing and it's like it's also nice to know that you're not alone in Mike all the shit that you're doing so it's like we're all kind of having the same suffering in a way not to the same degree. Obviously but everyone is kinda stuck in this situation like right now your favorite fucking artist. Who otherwise would seem untouchable has to be has to stay in their house. It's a better situation than our situation but for sure they're they're confined to their house. We are all going through the shit together. Even even if you're not like a creative person you don't want to ever like for me. I want US start. I have all the time in the world to do whatever the Hell I want now. So it's like. What are you going to do that time? Create new things to do like you can still go outside for the time being so like set like do start going running. Start reading everyday start. You know you want to start doing meditation. You WanNa Start Doing Yoga. You want to start doing whatever like start putting these healthy habits so that when you do get to the point where like okay now. Everything comes back. You're already have these things. Reined in you with the more time this goes on you can either take it and make it a fucking miserable time or take it as just like your your way at a school for your habits in a way. I'm also reading a book about like creating and breaking habits. What's the name of the book called Atomic Habits? Who wrote it as names? James Clear recommended the book and usually like I don't get through these types of books because they are very vague and like general and like whatever but this one kind of gets into science behind habits like dopamine and like like. It's like a more like whatever so I am a little more than halfway through it. Some I usually get halfway through one of these books on like all right. I know what this is like a throwaway but this one. I'm going to finish it. It seems like a good a good read so far but yeah I just think that like everyone should just create a schedule for themselves. Like you're going to have all the time in the world. The worst thing you can do is just kind of wake up and go. What do I do today? Like you should already fucking know at least just have things in place that you get to do every day. Be Like I'm going to be up at this time. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that and usually it just feels like all my days off. I just do whatever the Hell I want for the most part but now their life is a day off. Now you know. That's the craziest thing. Every day is a day off A. You don't have any responsibilities. I mean some people do I mean they're working from home and shit and I get that some some people but it's like you know it's like other than that though. Yeah there's a lot of people not doing shit. Yeah and it's it's you know. Some people are getting laid off. How the fuck they're gonNA pay rent or how they're going to do whatever and like that is. Just that's the thing that worries me. The most is like you know economic fucking. That's what I'm worried about. Honestly Dude have had family members relate off yeah me too and not only that but fucking all the businesses that are around like once that just opened up bars that are like whatever like an in-between kind of place. Like they're going to be shut down to not GONNA recover a lot a lot of That's really the sad thing is that you know. Small businesses are going to go out of business. Because it's fucking terrible and it's It's one of those situations where you know. It's not just about getting sick. You know that. That's the crazy part. It's not just about getting sick like that's almost to the Lisa. Some people's worries about getting sick is about how they're going to pay their fucking rent which terror take care of their kid. Yeah I just think that a positive light at the end of the tunnel. If you do need that to here is like I remember. Only had this conversation we were on flagrant to Schultz in Kashan. Shit and we were talking about nine eleven and when nine eleven happened in New York it was like this terrible thing and it was whatever but the the days after that and like a for a long period of time after that it really felt like everyone was on the same team and they were like browde of like where they were from an such a good feeling in the city and now it's the entire world so to think about what's going to happen after this it's like yes there's going to be like. The market's going to shit. People ARE GONNA lose a lot of money. People are going to lose their jobs. People are GONNA become homeless. Like it's just going to be bad but I do. I'm optimistic that it's going to feel very inclusive and it's going to be like a like we're going to look back on this time after this and be like you know that was just a great time where you see people coming together and like being on the same team basically so hopefully you know. That's the case. I'm pretty optimistic. That will be the case. Because I don't really see fucking alternative. Now it's just GonNa be crazy at one point. We're all going to be sitting somewhere. Bill Remember Corona virus at some point. That's going to happen. It'd be like fucking shit was crazy. Yeah because this is unlike anything. I've never experienced anything like this in my life. Like I mean there was like there was nine eleven. That was the fucking the stock market crash and then like those kind of things like nine eleven happened and then everything was back to normal like five days later not everything in the world but like your day to day for the most part was back to normal within a week motherfuckers playing baseball and basketball and shit you know. They were like they were out like. There's nothing going on. Yeah there's nothing happening. This is the world is a ghost town. Yeah so I did. I did see if it is. I did see a funny as video of In California these people were playing a will. There's a helicopter going over. It's like it's basically a ghost town out here and they pan over just a full court basketball game. GonNa out here hoop and I was like you know it's weird. It's fucking weird. Yeah just strange like now. It's like if you see somebody outside. You have to get mad at them. I honestly a lot of people I see. A lot of people exercising a lot of people just going for runs and shit like I need to go for a walk tonight. If I'M GONNA go for a walk in my fucking Shit. Yeah you need because it's an thank God. It's like the weather that it is now. It's kind of like we're getting really good day. And then we'll get like a bad day snow tomorrow. I think it's GonNa Start. I think it's GonNa rain because it's too hot. Not Hot too warm for that but it did have snow on the fucking thing but I think it changed the rain but changed. Hugh imagine it was like dead winter freezing and it was like. Oh like it'd be hurricane. Sandy was cold as shit. Yeah but that also was like. That wasn't long bro Songs. I got power. I'm getting through this thing. I'm getting I'm getting through it and you know to stay inside. Don't fucking hug you. Don't go see your grandma offer for a month. Yeah you don't stay inside either pop tart and chill the fuck out. That's all you gotTa do some Sane Dip your pop tarts in Unitel dip your pop tarts in the Tele Guetta curic crush coffee. Yeah Yeah and you don't spit in anybody's asking you stock up on the Ju- butter it's good. Yeah stock up on Ju border and you're good to go you. Life is good. And that's it we'll be fine and we're gonNA make through this. We're GONNA make. Do you have anything that you you're like you're going to try and like implemented to your life during the Sun Exercise I'm being forced exercise And for me The one thing I really WanNa get a grasp on during this entire fe is like I said before just relationships with people reach out to people. I haven't talked to a little bit check in people's families and Shit you know see how people are doing. And then just like you said just try and find the positives and do positive things during this time like thankfully. I'm here I get to put my apartment together a little bit. So there's some stuff that I was putting off because of work or just like finding excuses not to do shit now. It's like I have to do all this shit so like I'm just trying to just keep moving forward. That's that's really. The exercise is the main one for sure any my again reiterate. I mean yeah I I'm trying to. My main thing is just creating scheduled for myself because there is a lot more free time now to that to create create a productive schedule that I have to abide by like. I have to be up at this time and I have to read for this amount of time and then I have to go exercise and then I'll come here and start working and stuff and then like were like this should be like secondary like that and you need to like work like you need to just have like if you're laid off from your job or like my mother works in a school. That's like shutdown. So she's not doing anything you know. Minimal work from home for her. So it's like I've been telling her like just create things that you need to do. You know for sure that otherwise you wouldn't necessarily need or you wouldn't have time for because that's the only thing that's GonNa keep you sane through this whole thing otherwise you're gonna go nuts otherwise you're gonNA start leaving your house going getting random tattoos all over. You know what I'm going to get a whole bunch of more tat's for sure dude. When this is over I'll get a celebrate. Ori Fucking Tattoo the phone your cell. Tori almost gotTa sending out a Studio Stanton my God. He's serious yet did almost got it but then I realized that I would have you tattooed on my name forever and God forbid he ever fired me. It'd be tough I. I can't believe you consider that I did for sure and then I was going to get the logo. Now what would I was GonNa do is on the chain? You know how it's on A. What is this thing called the slate a slate? I was just going to get a slate to represent the studio on my hand that I was just like all right. Let's chill. Let's see how this corona goes. I A mixture a slow but this is a better way to do it because at least then you lie about what it means anything absolutely. Yeah just I love films. I'm I gotTA sleep. Well Phil I'm always ready to take another take it. Yeah Oh yeah yes my take it live I take I I take but Yeah Man I'm just happy I if you know if I'm texting you like yeah. I can't wait to get back to work. That's when you know it's bad here. Yeah so I'm happy that we're able to do this so me and Daniel are going to be recording from now on by the way for for for the foreseeable future. But I'm just happy that we were able to do today and Bring some light to everybody. Just stay positive. You know what I mean. If you have an hour in some time just distract yourself. And remember to spend money on essentials food tarts or pop tarts pastry dot com slash debasement yard. Three pounds of Natella. Three thousand and keep your head up. Yeah I think I think Mother Teresa said that she did she did say that right. Mo Mother Theresa Than To Park Remix. Yes Yeah Yeah Yeah All right cool. Where can they find you? But you could find me hunker down. I've said anchor hunker down. Maybe forty times since his fucking quarantine started. I've never used hunker down ever in my life. I've used it way too much. I feel like an old white dad. Like oh we gotta hunker down and really given are all like you guys guys gotTa Hang You guys. Got To hunker down. What am I coach? Softball Team Hunker. Down gets into the flight swing away. Come on kid. Hunker down at dental on instagram and twitter. And I've been doing these series of lives. Teaching people how to take proper showers. So you can check me out do that all right see. You haven't seen the last few days I've been gone live from the shower. Teach people how to properly Bay during the Corinthian Nice occasional. You go guys you can follow me at Joe. Santa Google father show at the basement yard. And that's all you guys next time we love you by law.

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Palm Sunday: Coronavirus? All Will be Well

Sunday Homily

05:40 min | 4 months ago

Palm Sunday: Coronavirus? All Will be Well

"We have just heard the story of the last hours of Jesus the best friend we ever had. As we listened to the reading of the passion. We followed him step by step in our hearts through his last hours and now having heard Jesus speak those last dread two words father into your hands I commend my spirit and when he had said this he breathed his last. We have to make sense. We have to make sense of it. All what does it mean this. Good kind loving young man the kindest man we ever met barely in his thirties. Dying dying in so gasoline away for no crime at all. He was completely innocent. What does it mean and what is it for what it means is God loves us. It means God loves a so much that he will withhold absolutely nothing from US absolutely nothing. Not even his own beloved son. What it means is that no matter what no matter what God will always be there for us with all his love all his power all his comfort and His grace. What was it four to tell us that. There are no limits no limits to his commitment to US. None at all. That's what God our father is saying to us through this terrible moment in Jesus's life our father is saying you can count on me. I will never desert you and there's nothing I won't give you not even my own son. I will save you. This passion Sunday is in one way or another a very sad today. Walking with Jesus on this day can break your heart but and this is a big. But it's also the brightest of days the brightest of days. Because it tells you how very much you are loved and because it reminds us who view this day from the vantage point of the resurrection that despite all appearances all will be well. Thank God Almighty all will be well. Are we worried? Are you worried in the midst of this Corona Cova? Nineteen sure you are. So what do we mean all will be? Well how can we have the audacity? Maybe the stupidity to say all will be well all will be well does not mean we will not sometimes get sick and suffer in life all will be. Well does not mean. We WON'T HAVE DIFFICULTY IN LIFE. All will be well does not mean. We won't catch the corona virus. So what do we mean all will be well and is that some sort of naive stupid pious platitude to say when people are sick all around us all will be? Well what do you think about that? What do we mean all will be? Well all will be well means. There is always hope. There is always hope. Hope is the trust that somehow somehow one way or another even when things don't seem to be working out and are very difficult. Our Future is in God's hands our future is in God's hands just like Jesus on the cross trusted trusted in God the father and just like Jesus had great. Hope had great hope that even when things did not seem to be working out and we're very difficult for him his future was in. God's the father's hands our future our future is in God's hands and so all will be well if we are faithful to him. If we stay close to him he will be there for us in the end and so we have great hope therefore from our vantage point which is the vantage point of the resurrection. Despite all appearances even in the midst of struggled difficulty corona virus sickness indepth will be. Well does it sound silly to say in the midst of struggle for us to say all will be well and let us rejoice no let us rejoice let us rejoice because thanks be to our good God who loves us who loves us all will be well.

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Corona at CPAC

Skullduggery

1:10:14 hr | 5 months ago

Corona at CPAC

"The conservative political action conference is a grand gathering that brings together members of Congress. Top trump administration officials and political activists for speeches and seminars aimed at decrying and ridiculing Democrats and liberals of every stripe but this year one of those attendees with a gold level. Vip ticket stoked fear and paranoia that rapidly spread through the political right the attendee whose identity has not been publicly disclosed was infected with the corona virus. He hobnobbed with high profile speakers and may have shaken hands with the conference leader match lap. Who later shook hands at the event with President Trump himself as we speak at least five members of Congress including incoming White House Chief of staff Mark Meadows have quarantine themselves while the national freak out over. The virus accelerates will other CPAC attendees get the lethal virus? Is the president himself at risk? We'll talk to match lap about how he's been handling the corona virus fears and the criticism from his fellow conservatives. That CPAC hasn't done enough to keep them informed about the risk. They are facing and we'll talk to Time Magazine's Charlotte. Alter about her new book. The ones we've been waiting for how a new generation of leaders will transform America on this episode of skulduggery because people have gotta know whether or not their president's across I told the American people. I did not trade arms for hostile my heart to my best intentions. Still tell me that's true. But the facts and the evidence it is not. I did not have sexual relations with that one. There will be no allies. We will honor the American depot with the Truth and nothing else. Michael ISIKOFF chief. Investigative correspondent for Yahoo News. And I'm Clyde editor in chief of Yahoo News so as we Speak we're taping this podcast in New York. I took the train up yesterday. the ACELA from Washington DC to New York and. There were two people on the car that I was sitting at. It was pretty remarkable. That people are staying away from public gatherings and public transportation. You know. I don't think I've ever covered a story quite like this In the sense that it touches every American and I talk about nine eleven. I was thinking impact of that story. but that was not sort of direct in the same way. I mean it did not have the in the sense that it did not have an impact on everyone's behavior shoreline wives. I mean it changed. Air Airplane travel forever the security. We have through every time we'd take a flight I mean that's certainly an example of how nine eleven disrupted and changed our lives and right now this virus is disrupting and changing our lives and the other thing is is the and this was true of nine eleven as well as the level of uncertainty and uncertainty is what strikes fear in people. Because they don't know what's coming next we look and see you know started in China but then now it's moved to Europe which is the new China that could've ground zero in in this third of Italy is essentially under quarantine while the entire country is in lockdown. Italians not well not tree right. Oh no travel right in in Italy and it's a One of those moments where our responsibility as journalists is to provide as much accurate information as responsibly. As we possibly can. But there's so much we don't know we don't know how this is going to play out and so trying to find that balance between figuring out What people can do How they can protect themselves. And and what Could actually happen going forward. It's just a really huge challenge for us and of course like everything it becomes a political story and a partisan story and I think we'll probably see a little bit of that when we interview our first guest match slap the chairman of the American Conservative Union who organized the CPAC conference. But it's already having a significant impact on the campaign trail. Oh absolutely I for one thing I mean the the meltdown of the market is pretty is something that touches a lot of people. Everyone who checks their 401k's occasionally as now Prepared for a complete disintegration of their savings and needless to say the political impact of that Trump gets it You know half. His campaign strategy was a booming economy and a booming stock market. You take that away and You've transformed the dynamics of this presidential race and that is in bad by the way is why this president seems to be doing his best to down. Play the severity of this of this crisis. Because he knows what impact it will have on on the markets And you know he there is a president does have a responsibility to calm the American people. But you have to do so with accurate information And he is not really done that you know talking about how everyone can be tested when a tiny tiny percentage of America of Americans who've contract the virus or believe. They may have have been tested. Suggesting that you know people will be going to work even if they have the virus Which is not something that people should be doing. He was pretty imprecise with his language and fairly ostentatiously shaking people's hands when he When he greets them on getting off of Air Force One which is something that. I'm not sure he ought to be doing well. Look let's try to get some accurate information from match. Lap who is at Was at Ground Zero at the CPAC conference. He was presiding. And let's see what we can find out from him. We now have with US match lap. The Chairman of the American Conservative Union the sponsor of the CPAC conference match lap. Welcome back to skulduggery. Hey great to be with you both so I guess my first question to starting out as having been somebody who is exposed to the CPAC attendee. Who was infected with Corona virus? How you feeling I'm fine. I have no symptoms. My wife has no symptoms. My children have no symptoms my eighty year. Old Mother has no symptoms my eighty three year old father in law and his in in. My mother-in-law had no symptoms We had other extended family at CPAC. None of them have symptoms in fact if you look at the whole ten thousand people that assembled during the course of CPAC WE HAVE NO NEW CORONA CASES. And that's a pretty amazing thing considering we had one infected person that showed up at the conference with the virus. And you're in a pretty large you know hotel with a lot of people it demonstrates to me that even if some more people get sick it's it's more it's more difficult virus to contract than I had thought Beginning of this but just to be clear that when you found out that you had been exposed to this person you made the decision to self quarantine. I'm not really using that term What I did is as soon as I was informed. And we started figuring out you know. The veracity of the situation was able to get to talk to the patient I did. I put myself in my house and my family did too and we practiced separation and distance from other people. So essentially we've been staying in our house so just tell us. I think this is important for people across the country who are thinking about this who realized that there is the potential that they could be exposed to someone with the virus. Tell us what the process was like. When did you learn that you had contact with this person or that person had the virus? What did you do? How did you gather the information that you needed to ultimately make the decision that you made? And what did you learn? From this process that would be useful to others. Who might be in the same situation that you're in? Those are all good questions so let me start with. I think my most important lesson after dealing with this for several days. Now the thing is is your symptoms. Don't be so worried that you might have been exposed because my guest is at this point in the in the expansion of this virus that almost everybody's been exposed. You know so this idea that you know that you could have been exposed because somebody where you were has tested positive. I can understand why that rings alarm bells in your mind but we should all be operating as if there's a chance we can be exposed where we've been exposed so that's why the CDC and others are saying you know. Wash your hands constantly. So when the President Vice President words CPAC I mean it was scrubbed dub dub constantly lots of pure al. Everyone's taking a lot of precautions. Rob O'Brian was at CPAC every couple of minutes. One of his assistant squares hands with Cheryl. This is I know it seems like a basic step but those are the types of things we can. Do you know you don't have to give everybody a French. Kiss when you see him you can say hello. Wave your hands. You could do the fist-bump do you can knock elbows. There's other ways and those aren't foolproof ways. Either I understand but there are precautions. You can take in so I think the one thing we have to be careful of is after CPAC And just one person. Having the virus a lot of people in our area started taking they had to shut down all the schools. You have to shut down all the neighborhoods you have to shutdown other places where people congregate and actually. If we all quarantined in our houses it would be a good way to not spread the virus. That's true but in a free society. That's a difficult thing to get everyone to do. So what we need to do is once you know you have the symptoms which starts with a fever. The state of Maryland has said. Check your temperature twice a day if you're worried if you have a fever spike then call your doctor then start the process of getting healthcare that you need so mad. I just wanted to drill down on the time line here. The CPAC conference was February. Twenty six through February twenty ninth. You said everybody was doing rubber. Dub DUB pure Every minute constantly did you know in to hand. Sanitizer stations like I the hotel in the state of Maryland of credit they. They took a lot of precautions as we got into CPAC Matt. Did you know in real time during the conference that one of your attendees was infected with the virus? No no I didn't know until CPAC ended on the twenty nine Saturday as you know when the president was done so I don't know what time that was at five o'clock ish or something like that and I wasn't notified about the problem until the following Saturday a week later and you notify notified by whom and what were you told. I talked to the patients brother. Who is someone that I know? Because of past CPAC experiences and He told me about the positive test and that had had been verified by the CDC. And then I started to have interactions with the Federal Government as well. And you know I just had to learn quickly on the steps that need to be taken in the first step that we thought was very important was to take what is private medical information in make as much as possible as was appropriate so we immediately started working on how we tell everybody who was there that they could have been potentially contact with. Somebody was corona. So how do you do that? I mean you email you have. Everyone's email you emailed everybody who attended all ten thousand people who attended the CONDO. I'm going to be honest with you. Guys they just been a whirlwind for four days. I mean I I am. I'm not trying to over-dramaticised size what I've had to do but it has been. It has been very intensive work so I might have some details. That are That are not going to be easily recalled. Yes we have been emailing and talking to the ten thousand person CPAC Community Multiple Times. I you know my call. My phone has not stopped ringing from people with basic questions. Ten days that are concerned members the media who were there so we immediately informed to see that community and on a. I believe exactly the same time. Actually I do remember this part. We pressed to go twice. One was informing all the CPAC community. And then also sending out a tweet letting folks know that We learned this fact so you can imagine you know you guys know busy. Pack is we. We are exhausted at the end of CPAC and we kind of thought. Wow that was one for the record. Books closed book on it. Even though there's a lot of follow up to do and it was quite a shock to learn. There's a week later so mad. The the individual in question has been identified as a fifty five year old man from Englewood New Jersey who had a VIP pass for CPAC. This is somebody you know. I do know the person who is Wasn't affected or is it back corona and just to be clear the persons infected is that person ill is. Is he suffering any consequences he is ill yes? Although I don't I don't know how legally appropriate for me to reveal his healthcare challenges but yes. He is not just an isolation because he tested positive. He's in a hospital which we which we did make public which we included in our public announcement that he's a hospital. You're you're in a hospital. 'cause you're getting medical care. That was a few days ago. What is your current information about how that person is doing? I just sent out a tweet is. I'm in regular contact with this patient and with family and He's making steady progress. They feel very optimistic. They're very relieved. So you shook this person's hand at the Combine. Not sure of that. No I don't think I did. It's possible you know I mean it's ten thousand people there. I know Mike you've been there. I make pretty fast progress around that hotel. I'm I'm on the go. The whole time. A lot of sell fees a lot of handshakes and candor a lot of very quick conversations not too many very long conversations to my interaction with him. I described as incidental and think that's accurate and you have not gotten tested. Is that correct? Because you haven't upon advice of the medical community. They believe that attest should only be administered. I if you have the center so all these questions about whether the president hasn't been tested or not or the vice president's been tested or not or off mark with the number of tests that are available With the medical professionals would like is for those tests to be used when someone comes into a doctor's office and says. I have a fever. I have these other symptoms. I need to find out now whether I have it. 'cause I need to find out whether I should restrict my movement you greeted the president at CPAC? You shook his hand neither one of us. Neither one of us have corona. We're fine well. We don't you haven't been tested in. The president hasn't been arrested. Let me be clear about right. Yeah we do know because we know with as much certainty as you can have in life you do realize with medical tests. I'm sure I I know you both. I know you're both of an age. I'M NOT GONNA pick on my. I'm of an age to where you know. Even with tests medical tests the most series of medical tests. There are false positives. Let me let me just put a punctuation on this when my oldest daughter I have five Gotten over very well over the last couple of days when she was first born. The doctor held her in his arms and said she had down syndrome and she does not have it. Doctors make mistakes medical tests make mistakes. It's wrong for us to assume that the test will always be right. There will be some mistakes and tests to see clears form to know whether or not you should be on the road to being concerned about the fact that you have corona. It starts with a temperature spike. At least this is according to the health officials in the state of Maryland and the directive. They gave to all these employees and people in the area. Check your temperature twice a day if you're concerned if it spikes immediately called call your healthcare professionals or the public authorities or call your doctor and then take the next step but if everybody rushes out now if all the ten thousand people from CPAC had immediately rushed to get a test as you all know because this virus his a bit by surprise there probably won't be enough tests for everybody same thing with hospitals. Everybody immediately says Oh my God I have you know an earache. I gotta run to the Emergency Room. The country is going to be in a rough place for those people who really are sick like this person from New Jersey. Well Matt speaking of that. I mean having gone through this yourself. Do you have a sense that by the way I one hundred percent do not have the corona virus but having one hundred percent does not have the current support to keep saying because you said skulduggery the name of your show. I love the show. There's been a lot of poor media performance on the state of my health and the fact that I infected the president in the entire cabinet etc and it's inaccurate. But you took. I guess you would consider prudent actions based on being exposed to someone who did have the corona virus But I know they had it remember. I didn't know I understand that. But subsequently union no he had it either by way I mean this is the way just can work. He didn't know he had it. He actually removed himself from the conference on Friday. As soon as he knew that he was starting to have had he been by the way. Just one quick question on you know when. Somebody's sick in the hospital. You probably don't get all the answers to all the questions. My understanding is that he had not travelled overseas recently and that's not where he was infected. That's my understanding any sense of where he was infected how he contracted it would all be conjecture on my part so what. I was GONNA ask you. Matt is having gone through this process having made the decision to self isolate or however you want to say it. Do you think that we as a as a society are overreacting to this? There is a sense of a kind of a national is cough used. The term. For a national freakout or national hysteria. How do you think you should calibrate it? If you're my mom's age you're eighty years old. She came to CPAC she. You know she was going to have to travel back on an airplane and she did. She said a lot of health challenges. She's on a great health path. Now but you know I would. I could tell she made a bit nervous. My father-in-law's eighty three. He's got a lot of health challenges. He's got kidney problems. I mean this makes those people nervous. That's why I think the five thousand stories that have been written about CPAC mostly to create panic and alarm not all of it but most of it. It's really a disservice. Those people I tell you I'm talking to them on the phone at nauseam because actually they do need to be concerned if you're eighty years old plus maybe even a little younger than that if you do have health issues. You're concerned completely legitimate. The problem is is that because for instance in our case they said well. Our kids shouldn't go to school because they've been near me once you start doing the well. This person was near. That person was near that person. The only health solution to that is for everyone to quarantine. Because I guarantee something fellows you've been exposed to this virus and I'm not a doctor so listen to doctors but this viruses and a lot of places and you didn't just get exposed to it at CPAC matter of fact here's the craziness of it. Eight-pack started when CPAC ended downtown Washington DC. They had two cases that have since been discovered another case during the conference or shortly thereafter from their attendees. They had twenty elected Democrats from Congress. Mike Bloomberg Charles Schumer Jaffrey's lots of Democrats and some Republicans go to the conference can't find story on. It can't find a story. This is the insanity of the media a panic or whatever. The reason that people are writing about CPAC because someone they're contracted the virus. No that's a lie and the president has live. But that's untrue contracted. The virus came to CPAC in later. That was corona. And that's eight pack just so you know if we're GONNA if we're GonNa what's good for goose is good for the Gander. By the way I think APEC is in a very responsible. Job is not aimed at them but the meet the same reporters who live in the same city. Who were badgering me about the fact that I might have acted irresponsibly with one. Case of corona are not covering three cases of corona down the street. We're Democrats assembled and I do think that it. That is very unfortunate. Well one of the reasons for that is. You've gotten a lot of criticism from your fellow conservatives. Who are at CPAC about the way. This was handled right. Hime Qassam urged rational plus said he was academic. Dick to learn this. And let's go through that that's to do you know why we're Heen. Kasane is worried. Well he said he wasn't feeling well after the conference. So what do you do when you don't feel well? Mike? We've just gone through this. You if you have a temperature staying home you go to your doctor right instead. What this gentleman decided to do was take to twitter and induce in near panic. I'm sorry that Rehim was not included on our speaker schedule and I'm sorry that he has a bone to pick with us but using a healthcare moment of where people are worried to use that to try to stick a a stake in. My heart was mistake and other people associated. Look my movement isn't perfect we it's it's it's got a lot of characters in it and I think the conservatives who have acted irresponsibility irrresponsible here. I hold them in the same contempt as I hold reporters who are simply trying to make a big political all reporters fair number but look. I mean that you're blaming the media. You're blaming Democrats a but a you know one of the well. One of the reasons it's driven covered one of the things that's driven this story. Is We have five members of Congress including Senator Ted Cruz. Doug Collins of Georgia the new White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. Who have all self quarantined themselves because they attended your conference? Isn't that the story Mike? You're good questions so I'm going to give you good answers okay. Those members are quarantined. We have been going through a exhaustive process of trying to talk to as many people as possible to ascertain who this person might have interacted with. I find it ironic that with the krona virus going all around the country were having these outbreaks or at least people who are infected that. It's the CPAC conference with only one person who has corona that has resulted in lawmakers Quarantining now there is a Democrat lawmakers who would tend to you if you could let me finish. It would be so fantastic. There's one Democrat who is also quarantined herself but you had twenty elected officials. Here's what here's the challenge. I give you. My twenty democratic elected officials went to APEC. They are still within their nine day window when almost all of the viruses are in their incubation this viruses into thinking Bachchan. I can't find a story where any reporter asked Charles Schumer. You went to APEC where there are three cases. How do you know that you didn't have any contact with the person? There's no attempt to find out who these people are ready to say that the the media coverage of this not by all but by most has been Paul in the case of crews for example. He said he knew the individual who was infected and he interacted with that person at the conference. That's an accurate. Nobody knew at the conference who was infected including the person who was infected Ted Cruz new a week later right because I called him that we had found evidence that there had been interaction. So that's when he learned and then he decided in consultation with the attending physician in Congress and his own healthcare professionals to make the statement. He made why. Why did nobody let me ask this question? I think it's important. You have democratic and Republican Law Congressional officials going to a lot of public events and events like APEC where they found three corona cases. All I'm saying is this if the media doesn't WanNa make it seem like this is just a way to bring trump down just follow krona where it leads you. It didn't just lead CPAC alleged APEC. They're in their nine day window. Why don't you ask some of these Republicans and Democrats who went to APEC? How do they know that the protocols were followed in that they didn't have exposure? I think it's a fair question. Let me ask you a broader. That's a fair question. I think it's look. I think there are a lot of questions that need to be asked of a lot of people right now. I don't know that that's top of the list because right country let didn't three three people that have corona. And what you're telling me. You're not gonNA validate the thing. My question that it's fair to ask those twenty-one members have you has anyone communicated to you whether or not you might have had exposure to the three corona cases that were at that conference. I'm getting those calls and I'm answering those calls. How come there are no calls going into a conference that predominantly has Democrats show up? It's just Ri. Didn't pen speak at APEC? Yes one is by. Partisan there's plenty of Republicans who attend APEC Conference Democrat. I my I'll be quiet. Read give me your recollection of the One News Story. That's been written about Corona eight-pack. I will I will be quiet. I wasn't prepared for that particular question but I I knew it doesn't exist I. I'm pretty sure I read stories in Multiple News outlets that APEC attendees had infected the virus. So I'm aware and you saw the intrepid. Follow up questions from members of the media. That would've helped that would force them. Democrat members to also corn tea right. Let Lemme ask you a broader question here because clearly we do have something like a national freak out right now and certainly the two thousand point drop in the. Dow on Monday is is pretty good evidence of that and part of it is. I think you might agree because there is so much distrust of government institutions right now anything. The public is told. They are instinctively a question. No question about in skeptical about and part of that is because we have a president who has fed precisely that sort of fear and paranoia and conspiracy theories that have undermined our trust in public institutions would reject. Just you know I reject everything you just said everything every every word of it. Let's let me help trump. Let me go train trump. It is not a trump phenomenon that have a healthy skepticism of your government and the many mistakes it makes that that is that is a foundational principle to our country. The conservative movement is primarily established on the idea that the government gets so many things wrong it attempts to do now. Maybe you're sensitive to the fact that he also has taken on the news media but I have to say after living through the last three or four days of coverage we had at CPAC and trying to find some way to have balance on the conservative policies. Trump is initiating his agenda. I have to say this is the news. Media's worst our in the history of our country thinking of of the President Matt would you say that he has been in in his rhetoric in his comments on corona virus been a model of precision and accuracy. And cause those aren't those aren't the virtues with kind of a PhD administrative long. Okay all right. That's exactly the standard that we're talking about sort of simple basic consistency. Wilson did have his PhD and he got us into disastrous. Warden was the segregation. So I don't know all right but let me let me just go through a couple of things you know. He said yesterday that everybody can be tested. Now I mean the reality is like five thousand. People have been tested. That's it now. More tests are coming online but he said everyone can be tested now. Let me try to explain. I I in all candy. My left some words out with what what the doctors and I've talked to a lot of healthcare professionals over the course of the last three or four days and quite honestly in preparation to the conference. What the advice from the community is those who showed the symptoms should get the tests and there are enough tests however there are people that have symptoms that have had some difficulty getting the test. Because you could have too many tests in one part of the country. Nothing the other and it. Sometimes it can take some days and I know that increases people's you know their stress about this whole situation one other thing that he said. Which is there was this cruise ship Off of San Francisco with a significant number of people who had contracted the virus. The medical professionals were saying that they should come ashore. The president eventually agreed to that he he was opposed to it at first and he said publicly that he didn't want them coming ashore because of the impact that that would have on the numbers and it wasn't our fault the numbers. We're going to go up and it wasn't our fault. Is that responsible coming from the president of the United States. When these people were suffering on a ship in the medical advice was they should come ashore. I think we all think that if you are suffering if you have the symptoms and if certainly if you've tested positive that you definitely should be quarantined. And she got the healthcare. You need where that occurs I. I don't know if I'm the right guy to answer that. That's on a ship or a hospital or in a hotel that's dedicated to these people. I don't but what do you make? What do you make people who can transmit and keep them away from the general population? I I like that idea. But what do you make of his preoccupation with the numbers the impact that that would have that sounds like has the preoccupation or the media covering it. I'd like to know the answer to that because I've read so much coverage over the course of the last several days and there is a lot of this information out there. And there's a lot of there's a lot of this is the ten or the president is mishandling this and it's growing by exponential numbers and it's growing out of control and that is the theme of much of the coverage and. I think that that's part of the reason why people get so scared. I mean it's scary for my mom to read that. So why don't we all take a breath and the president's part of this take a breath and let's try to not make it bigger than it is. Don't hyped it. I actually think that's the responsible thing to do right now but look I mean. The numbers are going up and going pretty dramatically. We're now up to the eight hundred cases twenty-seven deaths and that is a serious problem. It's a crisis that the country's Sony seven people in their families. It's terrible so is it really helpful to turn this? Into a partisan food fight in which Republicans are blasting Democrats and vice versa. And you're blasting the media and you know what I'm going to see going into CPAC. The idea that America was GONNA face Corona. I knew there'd be people that would make politics of over it. I think the Democrats made a mistake on the supplemental to some of them to make putts to turn into a political question but after watching this attempt to turn corona into like the CPAC infection model and And and and the coverage of it I will tell you Mike. There are plenty of people in the media establishment who are guilty of turning this into a partisan thing and I think the fact that you didn't even agree that twenty one elected Democrat officials. Going to eight pack and not much coverage of it no questions of the members whether or not they know whether or not they had contact including the Senate leader. Charles Schumer Sh tells me that you want to focus on one case at CPAC and the fact that you think that I might be might have picked it up and I might have given it to the president and I didn't and I'm healthy and he's healthy and I think that's a damn shame that that's where the coverage goes. Now maybe it's because he's the president and he just gets all the attention. No one else gets any ten. That's just that's just the way it is but you yourself just said the vice president's spoke at a pack and you can't see any coverage about corona at other conferences. Look how many people have the how many people have corona in this country? You just went through the number. I think we're up to eight hundred seven hundred ninety four just before we had happened to interact with any Democrats pretty time sure but it just strikes me as kind of a preposterous question. Matt I mean who cares whether they interacted Democrats or Republicans. I feel real asking deal. Let's quit talking about it in terms of party. And let's have the national media quick torturing CPAC over the fact that one attendee came to CPAC with corona and one person lessee packed with corona. It's actually a good story that should make people relaxed. Not that they can't get it but that it's hard to get it and fifty percent of the people that come to CPAC or high school and college kids and it reiterates the fact that younger people. It's very difficult for them to get the virus story out of CPAC SHOULD BE CALMING STORY. But they refuse to tell that story all right. You've said you're one hundred percent sure you are not sick. You don't have no iris. Don't let me use better words. All right I don't know in this life with your health. You can be one hundred percent sure of anything I'm telling you. I had no symptoms for Corona. And I've talked to my doctor and I've talked to other healthcare professionals. I've talked to some doctors who some pretty impressive letters after name. Let's just say that. And they have all told me that. I'm clear that I should not worry about this if I get a fever calling back so the American people is the certainty that you can have because like energy if you've been to a grocery store and movie theater a restaurant something like that certainly in the DC area the percentage chance that you have been exposed to krona is high so does that shouldn't panic. That should make you realize you could have been exposed and you could be just fine and it's actually harder to pick up the spires especially if you're very careful with cleaning your hands and how you interact with others. It's very hard to get it. That should make you become doesn't mean that you should have a false sense of security but you should be relaxed and calm and listen to the fast. Just my last question is we're now ten days past the time that you were potentially exposed. You have no signs. Are you lifting your ban on battle house? I'm glad that you care about me. My Question Your Daddy The nine the period of time that's critical for the incubation nine days after contact so we're well through the nine days well through it. So upon doctor's advice I could absolutely Do anything I wanted to. I'm GONNA still take this day by day. I stayed in my house today on like a decision about what I do tomorrow. The one thing I have to. I'm not a famous person but maybe notorious and I don't WanNa get the last thing I want to do. I've spent actually. It's been pretty hard on my kids. I WANNA get serious for a second year. I got five. Little girls have been very hard for them because people said some terrible things because they read terrible things about how their father infected the president. And it's a sad thing for them and they've had their people in there and that they thought they were friends with some pretty horrible things so when reporters right things that are wrong about people who have kids It's hard for the families. It's been a hard hard little stress from my family. But they're brave little girls and they're looking at the coverage and they're saying dad. Why did they say things? That aren't true and I say you know kids you're going to have to deal with this your whole life and so we're gonNA take this day by day And the country is going to be fine if you actually look. You guys are good reporters if you actually look at the numbers with other. You know outbreaks like this. We're not in a terrible position. It could get worse. The Best News for America maybe not the globe but for American people in this part of the globe is this virus has a very difficult time surviving when the weather gets warm so I spent a lot of time in the sun yesterday. You know there are things you can do sit by the fireplace There are things you can do to make sure that the virus that you're more protected from the virus and I'm not the doctor but go to the CDC website. Really follow that. It was scary to think that I could have had this. It's scary for the people who came to see packed. I thought they could have had this. The Greatest News as of today is that nobody picked it up and And we should tell that story more often which is yes. There are the victims and there are the people who were worried but there are the people who haven't gotten it won't get it and thank God because can you imagine this virus that you could pick up easily and almost everybody was getting it. We would be in panic as a country. Well Matt Slap. Thanks for joining US. Sharing your experience on this and of course we hope you stay. Well I am well. Don't worry about me well and so is my family. Hey thanks a lot. Thanks Matt Guys. Thank you and we are now joined by Charlotte. Alter Time magazine correspondent and author of the Fascinating New Book. The ones we've been waiting for. How A NEW GENERATION OF LEADERS WILL TRANSFORM AMERICA CHARLOTTE? Welcome to skulduggery. Thank you guys so much for having me. And congratulations on the book. It's really a great read. A look at Millennials who are in Congress in the political world and making an impact. How'd you decide to do this book? Well I started thinking about this book on the day. That trump withdrew from the Paris climate agreement. Because it was such a moment that just seemed very obviously to me an act of generational warfare. I mean this guy was set was at that point. He was seventy one years old. He was the oldest first-term president he was elected. Overwhelmingly by white voters over sixty five surrounded in his cabinet by men in their seventies and eighties when I looked at the senators who had encouraged him to withdraw from the Paris climate agreement. It was all these guys in their seventies and eighties and a couple of guys in their sixties. And I just. It was the first time I thought to myself. Oh my gosh you know. This administration is the leading the young in some ways and then as soon as I began to see that I began to see that that was happening on immigration. It was happening on student debt. It was happening on. You Know Trans Rights in the military an issue that young people care a lot about. But there aren't a lot of Sept- Septuagenarian Trans People in in the military and So then I began thinking about the generational. Divide that we have and I. I didn't really want to write a screed so I figured I would start going around and looking for the young people who were trying to change the system from the ground up. And that's how I came to Charlotte. Your thesis is that the millennial generation is poised to take over and is going to have a huge impact on our politics and policies and our values as a society. And they are I guess. Soon to be the largest generational cohort in the country so by the numbers that make sense but here we are recording this on the day of Another primary and the irony of course is that the three presidential candidates in this race are all Septuagenarians and some of them are almost octogenarians. So why do you think that's the case? And what's the time line for this generational takeover? I think that's a great question. So you know the challenge with a project like this is that obviously you can't see the future but I think one thing we can all agree on is that young people grow old and that old people don't last forever you know. That's just a fact of human life disapprove and we'll have a major bestseller on your hands right right. I wish you know that I would be rich if I go away around that one but yeah so the question of course is when right so I think it's pretty clear that we're not gonNA see a millennial president in two thousand twenty. Obviously but in some ways the more top heavy our government gets and the the the more we have guys in their seventy late seventies early eighties in positions of power. The closer that turnover becomes. Because we're not JOE BIDEN OR BERNIE. Sanders is not going to be in charge in ten years period. If for example we were talking about a Ted Cruz or a Comma Harris. There would be an argument. That may be okay. Well you know. They've got another twenty years in them and you know but but we're really seeing the last gasp of a particular twentieth century style of politician Bernie Sanders is in some ways. Like an exception to that. Because he's got so much support from young people and he is talking about ideas that were really unpopular in the twentieth century. But I think that it's pretty clear that even that no matter who we elect president this time you know that same man in their late seventies is not going to be of course Pete. Buddha judge thirty eight years old now and he won Iowa and You know did pretty. Well in New Hampshire just talk a little bit about the impact that this general when it does finally become the sort of leadership generation. What is the impact that millennials will have on on American politics? So for this book I talked to just to kind of explain my parameters. I was looking at elected leaders. Who were born between nineteen eighty one and nineteen ninety-six in both parties? I talked to more Democrats than Republicans because this generation leans democratic but they're not all democratic so I have a couple of Republicans in there too. I think the way to look at it is that millennials have a broad agreement on some of the problems that they're going to face in the later part of the century but they disagree on the solutions so young Democrats and young Republicans agree that climate change is a problem and agree that it's caused by humans and agree that the government has to do something about it. They disagree on exactly what that is young. Democrats and Republicans again. This generation is the most racially diverse in history. They tend to agree that racial diversity is good and is something that is like an important and that we should live in a multi-racial society in that people should be treated with respect. They tend to disagree on exactly what that should look like. And there there are sort of internal culture wars onto of woke politics. But they're you know. Gay MARRIAGE IS SORRY MARRIAGE. Equality is something that young. Republicans have basically given up on. That's like a an an issue of the past. Tac regulation is something that Young Democrats and Republicans agree is something that the government has to do more on that you know. The federal government should be doing more to regulate companies like facebook and twitter and Google. A foreign affairs interesting. I noticed in your book that you Had A statistic that I think. Only a third of millennials believe that America is the greatest country in the world shift. Yeah but I mean think about it like this. The this generation this book starts on nine eleven right because that wasn't a lot of ways of real formative moment for people this age and you know in the twenty years since they've seen the US get into to disastrous foreign foreign wars that were based on faulty intelligence. Either either a mistake. Aurelie whichever way you look at it so it doesn't surprise me very much that that they're much less likely to think that America is the greatest country in the world so the strength of the book is these portrait of your characters from Pete Buddha. Judge who you are onto long before the rest of the world heard heard of him to Alexandria Cossio Cortez of course you've also got a few Republicans in their At least the phonic a sort of moderate Republican from upstate New York who emerged as one of Donald Trump's biggest defenders in impeachment. Dan Crenshaw a hard right conservative from Texas former navy. Seal and I guess. Although each of the portrait's is fascinating a struggle a little bit with what unites them because these are people coming from very different perspectives. Max Rose another one Staten Island Brooklyn Congressman Conservative to Centrist Democrat. Completely opposed almost everything. Afc stands for. What is it that is the common bond among your characters so other than their age right so I think you know there are a couple things that I mentioned earlier? Climate change is one of them. Familiarity with technology is another one and you know everyone no matter where they're coming from on the ideological spectrum understands modern technology and what in the way the way that it's fundamentally reshaped our society in a way that Chuck Grassley doesn't right? You pointed out. The chocolate Grassley was in kindergarten when the chocolate chip cookie was invented. Yeah imagine that you know just guys helping to regulate facebook so so. I think that that's one of them. Another one is that you know you are seeing on some social issues but not all social issues like abortion as an exception to this but on most social issues. This generation is moving towards a more a more tolerant perspective and not getting as bogged down with some of the the like Christian right culture wars. That were happening in the nineties. But I also think more broadly you know. I'm not arguing. That they're all the same and they all agree with each other and that they're all ideologically similar and they're going to act in lockstep with each other. The point of the book. Is that the situation that we have now. A government that is run of buying for old people is not sustainable and won't exist in the exact way that it does now in ten years and so in some ways. This book is just meant as almost an introduction to some of the people who might stay relevant if they lose if they don't lose their elections you know and and just kind of like a. Hey there are other people who matter in American democracy besides Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden. So here's one of the many ironies that occurred to me while starting the book you do have this great portrait of Buddha judge and just who he was where he came from him what he was like in Harvard and all that but as the campaign was playing out I noticed that a Buddha judge was not getting all that much support from his fellow millennials. Xactly fact I have a millennial nephew who's a big Bernie guy and I was grilling him up at on this over the holidays and when I mentioned Buddha judge used the word contempt contempt Mike. My kids use the word. Torp WORK THAT YOUNG PEOPLE. Don't have fatal they they're not big fans. So here's you know in many ways the most accomplished millennial who's gone further than anybody else. You know a guy who was a serious contender for the presidency. And you know he gets that kind of tepid reaction. Yeah or worse from his fellow millennials. How do you explain it? I mean because I don't think that millennial politics is necessarily about supporting other millennial politicians and in fact one of the things that I've heard from voters on the campaign trail. This cycle is It's really interesting. How voters of different ages see age so for example younger voters are not at all bothered by Bernie Sanders is age? It doesn't matter to them. They like him on the. That's that is the role. This had the most support young voters. Eight and the youngest candidate may have had the lease. Yes exactly and I think that a lot of it has to do with. Pete's policies people you know he's significantly more moderate than sanders and as we are seeing in the polls right now voters under forty or like breaking for Sanders Bhai unbelievable margins but also when I would talk to voters in there. Let's say early. Sixties earlier mid Sixties. They voiced the greatest concern about. Biden's age and Sanders Age and it was because they understood what aging meant. They understood what aging does to your mind and your body and they were saying things to me like you know. I'm slowing down. I'm having a harder time running after my grandkids. I forget my keys. Sometimes how could somebody fifteen years older than me take on the most challenging job on the planet and I think younger voters don't have you know they just are more likely to say. Oh well you know seems fine. They say that he's fine. After his heart attack I like him on the issues. I'm with him but the isn't it with with Sanders isn't it? Also that young people are responding to his authenticity and his conviction as a politician. Don't doesn't generation feel like they've been lied to since they were young that finally. Here's someone who not only is expressing policies that we agree with but is a true kind of conviction candidate and does not an Pete on the other hand feels a little bit like the kind of politician. He's very polished little mass-produced yeah he's the he's like. What Michael Kinsley called? An old person's idea of what a young person should be exactly. Yeah Jaren Weinberger our Washington bureau. Chief call them an algorithm yeah right created by Algorithm. Yeah so I think that's exactly right and I also think in some ways what this book tries to trace is the series of establishment failures that happened in during the early adulthood of the millennial generation. And why they're so skeptical so like if you think about it nine eleven and the wars that followed maybe not nine eleven itself but the wars that followed nine eleven representative total failure in many millennials minds of the foreign policy establishment right. They said that we should go. Get into this war and it turned out to be a huge disaster. The financial crisis was a failure of the financial establishment. Everyone who said they understood? How markets worked and they were supposed to be in charge of managing our economy. Were totally wrong right. A lot of millennials see the failure of Hillary Clinton and the election of Donald Trump as a failure of the political establishment particularly in the Democratic Party. So you have these this series of establishment failures in rap in fairly quick succession over the course of just really fifteen years and that can help explain? Why so many millennials are so attracted to somebody who is not only conviction candidate but is defined by his anti establishmentarian them and who seems to reject a lot of the things that they think have already failed them? But why should we think that this is that this new generation is somehow going to lead to a new politics? I mean first of all. I mean certainly the idealism of youth which over time you know turns into the pragmatism and perhaps wisdom of getting older is a common theme in throughout history. This happens all the time. What makes you think that? This millennial generation is somehow going to break the mold in any meaningful way. So I think this is an important distinction to make. I'm not arguing that they're going to be better. I'm not arguing. That millennials are going to come into power and it's going to be this utopia of all the you know everything's GonNa work better and everyone will treat each other nicely and America will be you know like a happy in joyful place. I'm arguing that it will be different that the that the particular that millennials will make their own their own mistakes. They'll come in with their own flawed assumptions. They'll make their own strategic errors but the those mistakes will be different in kind than the mistakes. That boomers made. Because and this is I think central to the argument of the book that people build their political assumptions based in their bill their political attitudes based on the experiences of their early adulthood. And that baby boomers are fundamentally. Different from millennials mostly because they are building their politics based off of a different set of experiences in early adulthood. So I mean I think socialism is probably the best example of this right. Baby boomers think of socialism they think of the Soviet Union. They think of Cuba they think of Gulags and bread lines and horrific war and starvation millennials think of socialism. You know millennials who by the way the oldest ones were nine when the Berlin Wall fell right. They think of socialism and they think of Sweden where there's free childcare and you know universal health care and accessible education for everybody. I'm not saying whether that's right or wrong. They could be wrong. The point is that it's different and that this generation is in charge. We will have a different set of assumptions guiding the way our leaders and our voters act. But isn't it also the case? That mean you suggest. That millennials are going to usher in a new age of progressive politics but in two thousand eighteen when. Eo was elected and she was the shiniest of that class most Democrats who were elected and I think a lot of younger Democrats actually were centrists. Were more moderate and and you know they. They flipped trump seats So what is the evidence that this generation is going to drive a more kind of progressive liberal agenda than something more moderate just responding to the electorate. So I think you're totally right to point that out and I always like to say that you know it is true that the way to think about this is that the millennial progressive socialist base is changing the conversation. But they're not putting points on the board. They are not flipping the seats in the place as the Democrats needed to win. That was done by moderates But to go back to Pete Buddha judge I actually think Pete Judges a really good example of this because the far left has always been the far left. Right what's changed at? The center has actually moved to the more liberal. Yes so pete who is as you just described moderate reviled by the left younger progressives. Don't like him. He's not considered to be a true progressive. P supports universal healthcare. Even though he doesn't go as far as burning on medicare for all he supports the idea of universal health insurance and massive government intervention to make that happen. He supports a massive government intervention to address climate change. He supports student. Debt forgiveness he wants to put millions of people to work you know building infrastructure creating jobs in communities like those are for the moderate standard bearer of the Democratic Party of the millennials to be advocating positions like that that indicates to me that the center has moved to the elbow. One could argue that. Our Algorithm candidate is simply trying to appeal to a democratic base in a primary. And that's what you gotta say. And that's not really where he's at. Chevron is not always true yes it is and I mean. That's the political process. I gotta say. I'm glad though that you make the point that you're not arguing that this is going to be a new dawn of America. That's going to transform us because one of the books I was thinking about when I was reading yours was Something well before your time. The greening of America in nineteen seventy by Charles Reich which argued that the baby boom. We're going to bring in this new higher consciousness of personal freedom and anti war sentiment and the counterculture that was going to transform America ten years after he wrote that book. Ronald Reagan was elected president than the country went on a very different path so his excitement about what the baby boomers. We're going to bring the country but the baby boomers. I don't know it may be that. The baby boomers did something similar to what Charlotte was just talking about which is the they should have changed the baseline right that That the baby boomers with their fight for civil rights antiwar okay. That gets a little more complicated but they may have moved the center a little bit to the left well and chain certain assumptions. What I wanted to ask you about Charlotte is how the Republican Party is reacting to this. This wave that that is coming because you know. The Republicans in power are also pretty old Mitch McConnell is seventy seven seventy eight years. Old Is the Republican Party. Doing anything to get ready for this. Are there any signs that they understand that this generational change is you know is going to have a huge impact on their ability to retain power in Washington so they were and then trump got elected so basically over the course of Obama's presidency? The Republican Party actually was doing a couple really smart things to try to attract young people and in fact you know the two thousand famous two thousand thirteen. Rnc autopsy after Romney Law Forgotten. Yeah you know that I S- are you in this book that that was actually basically right. It's just that the timing was off so that autopsy argued that in order to survive. The Republican Party had to do better with women people of Color and young people and during Obama's second term. They actually made some real progress. On that day elected some young women they elected they got a couple young Hispanic Republicans in office like At least a phonic Carlos Carabello who are in this book those young Republicans over the course of Obama's second term you know we're carving out this conservative path on climate change a conservative path on immigration They were sort of you know helping to draw the Republican Party into the future on marriage. Equality trying to say like. Hey let's come down about this you know. And then trump happened and suddenly it became much much much more difficult for those young moderate Republicans. Who were trying to drag their party into the future. Well it's interesting. You know anybody who knows who at least phonic is these days rose who she is because she was such an ardent defender of Donald Trump in his point that you you spent a lot of time with her death portrait of her but I think most of it was written before this trump defender so explain. Yeah how and why so she so at least a phonic is one of the most calculating ambitious people I've ever spoken to. She and I should clarify that. Listen I had to finish this book in October. It went to the printer in November. She didn't really get her star. Turn in the impeachment hearings until January. Right I could tell already that. She was inching towards trumpism and that she had kind of depart that this path that she was she was kind of in this position of doing this little dance and sort of creeping down this path of. I like something president does I don't like other things. And she spent most of the last four years trying to trying to sort of distance herself from trump. And I could tell at the end of this writing process that she was that period had ended and that she was about to embrace him. But I just didn't know exactly how that would happen so I couldn't write it because it hadn't happened yet. I mean the thing about at least a phonic is that she is a Republican from upstate. New York right which means that. She has no path in statewide office. She's never going to get elected to the Senate and she's never going to get elected to the governor's mansion because this is New York state right so her and she is deeply loyal to the Republican Party. She's George W Bush person. She's a Mitt Romney Person. She cares a lot about the future of the GOP. And that's why she's been somebody who's been really active in trying to get more women into the party trying to get more young people into the party. I think she made and again. This is just. She didn't tell me this. This is just what I think. Based on knowing her talking to her I think she made a calculation. She realized that her only path forward is up through the house. She has to keep her house seat. She wants to. She seems pretty. Well positioned to be in leadership and the only way to do that is in this era of the Republican Party is to support trump. I also think she has. She's trying to have her cake and eat it too. Because in ten years or fifteen years when she runs for something else you know she'll be able to say to the trump people. Hey I was with your guy and you'll also be able to say to the moderate Republicans. Hey here's my record on climate change. And here's my record on immigration. So I think that she's like this is a woman who's yearbook photo. This didn't make it into the book. Her background of her yearbook page was the White House. Okay so I think that that tells you a little bit about her aspiration a little naked question now. She was a contemporary with Buddha. Judge Harvard. And tell us about their relationship such as it was so they were both at Harvard at the same time. They both did the I. O P Institute of Policy Institute the Institute of Politics which is like this sort of politics nerd like thing at Harvard. Basically multiple people who knew them on campus. Say that they went on a date. That was the scuttle butt on campus. Both of them strenuously denied us but in ways that seem like a bit protesting too much. I think what it was was one of those like maybe dates where they got A. They weren't like interrelationship. They weren't in love clearly. Pete's gay like But Pete was dating women at that time and you know it seems to me like the most logical explanation for this is that they went on this coffee date that was like a maybe date and they both kind of realized podcast. That trolls using air quotes quotes. Pseudo date okay last question for you. Charlotte are there new millennial candidates Who you're looking at in this Upcoming election who you think Are going to be exciting to people. The way that was. I mean I did notice that some of the some of these primary races. The progressive candidate who've taken on more moderate Democrats have lost Cisneros Yeah for example. What are you seeing in the kind of next class coming In terms of this this wave that you write about so I have to be declared by like I have been really focused on twenty twenty so And I've been covering that for time so I haven't been as much like searching these people out as I once was. I definitely think Charles Booker in Kentucky is really exciting. There are some exciting young people who are running for mayor in New York City. And I think that you know one of the challenges of having this presidential election right now. Is that frankly one of the reasons I wrote. This book is to give oxygen and give some profile to people who don't get covered because they're not going to be president right and the way. Our political media is is operated right. Now it's like so focused on the presidency And maybe I've fallen into that a little bit since I finished this book because I've been really focused on the presidency but I will do some research and I will get back more nails. I've got one more for Charlotte because it's a passage in my favorite chapter in the book. The chapters called Harry Potter and the spawn of boomer and in the courses that you cite a book by somebody named Gene Twinge who wrote that. The new millennials simply take it for granted that we should all feel good about ourselves. We were all special and we all deserve to follow our dreams. And then you write. This of course has led to widespread perception. That millennials are entitled Selfie obsessed narcissist more concerned with their personal brand than the state of the world a stereotype that is firmly rooted in obnoxious. Truth no wonder so. Many of their elders find them so irritating lender white so Should we all be prepared to be irritated for the Years to come SOFA entitled millennials. I think that I think that's a good question. I also think that no generation has a monopoly on being irritating right so you know you millennial find us boomer irritating you that we just think was jen's e- exactly and this gets back. I think almost precisely to this question very smart question you asked earlier about like. Are we talking about better or are we talking about different? Because boomers were irritating in so many ways and continue to be irritating in so many ways and listen. Millennials are also irritating in totally different ways. And guess what I bet Gen Z. Are going to find their own exceptional ways to irritate everybody around them so Yeah I mean listen. We've got an irritating future ahead but fortunately unfortunately cost from the greatest generation graphic that way charlotte. We should point out that Charlotte is the daughter of a frequent skulduggery guest. Our old Newsweek colleague. Jonathan Alter he may be losing the altar seat. That's skulduggery right. Also we've been guests. We should we should actually promote the serious politics. Ultra family politics. It's the best name for a show about exactly that you alter family get together and they talk politics. Who needs to wait for Thanksgiving alter family fighting among themselves Charlotte? Thanks for joining us. Thank you so much for having me. Thanks the chairman of the American conservative Union match lap and author and time correspondent Charlotte Altar for joining us on this episode of skulduggery. Don't forget to subscribe to skulduggery on Apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen to your podcasts and tell us what you think. Leave a review. Latest episode is also on Sirius. Xm On the weekend. Check it out on channel. 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No, the Corona Virus Did Not Sink Sales of Corona Beer

"Usps increasing so now is the time to say with Sam pro online from Pitney Bowes starting at just four ninety nine a month get a free thirty day trial and a free ten pounds scale when you visit. Pba DOT COM SLASH VW daily From wondering I'm David Brown and this business wars daily on this Tuesday march tenth. Wow It's been a long few weeks as anxiety's been mounting over this corona virus no surprise that the viruses hit many businesses especially those with global supply chains in companies that sell rely on travel. But there's one company hit hard because of branding. Yes you guessed it that would be corona the maker of beer and hard seltzer. It's sales slowed tremendously because many Americans. It seems are confused about the association between the beer and the virus. Oh Com on. They are not the last couple of weeks. Misleading story went viral. It implied that Americans are so dumb. That many of us believe the beer can cause the virus that message spread by a certain less than honest public relations firm seemed to indicate that sixteen percent of us are confused about the relationship between corona the beer and corona the disease. That's killing people. It also implied that Krona's beer sales had fallen because of the virus. The story was so convincing that many major news outlets picked it up including CNN. The New York Post and vice among others not surprisingly twitter went Gaga over this story. None of it's true. Let's talk for a minute about the difference between correlation and causation. Shall we correlation means? Two things are happening Ed once but may have little to do with each other causation. Means well okay you get it. This is key to what happened. So a firm called Five W. P. R. published a poll of more than seven hundred Americans. That poll asked questions about the corona virus and about corona the brand one of the findings. According to this firm. Thirty eight percent of those polled said they would not by corona beer under any circumstances now as a writer for the Atlantic noted the PR firm then went on to state without proof. The reason these respondents won't buy corona is because of the virus not so in fact many or even all of those thirty eight percent may not have been corona drinkers to begin with as was reported in the Atlantic. They might not by corona regardless. But that's not how the PR firm chose to sell it in fact that firm trumpeted the so-called finding saying who would want to go into a bar right now in order corona well in in fact corona sales have fallen. That's in part because sales of many beer brands are down in China at a time. When beer sales usually climb we're talking about the lunar brew year a New Year Abn Bev which distributes corona outside of the US forecast day ten percent decline in sales in China because people are staying home. That's according to the fact. Checking website slopes so that particular sales declined does appear to be a corona virus effect. Just not related to the name of corona beer. What got much less play as a statement from Constellation brands which distributes corona inside the US in America Constellation said. Sales grew five percent in the four weeks that ended February sixteenth. That's double the sales trend for the last year. Snoops reported constellation clearly felt it was necessary to correct the wild misconceptions in a press. Release the firm stated that its customers quoting here understand. There's no link between the virus in our business. Exactly giving constellation brands even more headaches. However was the unfortunate coincidence between its long planned on brand marketing campaign for hard seltzer and the growth of corona virus. Constellation is spending forty million dollars on a marketing campaign to launch. Its New Corona Hard Seltzer in North America according to industry publication food dive. It's slogan coming ashore soon. The new campaign coincided with the first big warnings that corona virus was coming ashore to countries outside China including the US. Twitter of course reacted with many complaining. That coronas campaign was in bad taste. The hard seltzer market is booming however rival white clawed did one and a half billion dollars in hard seltzer sales last year according to CNBC and Constellation is sticking with its campaign but we bet that it's marketing folks have taken more than their fair share of headache medicine. Really as the corona virus panicked continues be on the lookout knock just for symptoms of the virus for symptoms of viral stories which may not be everything they claim to be from wondering. This is business wars daily. Hey listen if you like our show. Take a second subscribe that way. You won't miss a single episode. Thanks so much for listening. I'm David Brown. We'll be back with you. Biz episode business. 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Dopey 231: The Corona Virus Special

Dopey: On the Dark Comedy of Drug Addiction

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Dopey 231: The Corona Virus Special

"The Corona virus daily briefing is a new podcast. That comes out every day at five pm with the latest headlines and context around the cove nineteen corona virus crisis from ride home media the daily podcast. All the things that happened today. A quick fifteen minutes and you're up-to-date search your podcast APP now and subscribe Corona Virus daily briefing. That's corona virus daily briefing and need a fix cause. I'm going Dan back to the bids. Left up town need a fix cause. I'm going down. This corona virus dopey special is brought to you by our friends at Alloa recovery located in Sunny Southern California in Malibu and Silverlake Allah was created by our friend. Bob Forrest and his friends. Evan Jared and Bob and it was created as a place to treat addicts with connection and compassion rather than control. They wanted to set up a place where addicts can receive the best care where they could receive care for dual diagnosis where they can get a detox. 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This is the last week for the old dopey store we're going to have a new dopey store so if you WANNA get any you want to peruse if there was something you wanted on the store get it now. Www DOT dopey podcast dot com. But just know that next week or the week after. There's a brand new dopey store also I still have a few snap. Bax and Dopey ski hats and a bunch of stickers and socks if you want any of that stuff just van mummy at Dopey podcast. But I'M GONNA keep you guys safe and not ship it for a few weeks until I feel. The Corona thing has passed us by and people think it's safe to ship again anyway. The Corona virus special. We had a blast making it. I hope you enjoy. That's enough of the ADS. Here is the fucking show so hello and welcome to Dopey the podcast about drugs addiction and dumb shit and the corona virus. And I'm Dave and I'm home with my lovely beautiful brilliant partner. Linda you haven't been on the show in a long time when I'm glad to be here. When's the last time you were on the show? I don't remember I don't remember either. I think it's been a long time was at the two hundred episode. Was that the last time. I don't think I came on for like fifteen minutes at the end V. A. Area. That sounds right to Linda. The world is in a standstill. We're in a global pandemic. This city has shut down our you coping. How are you coping? Wow It depends on what you're asking me that I'm coping with. There's certain things I'm coping with fine and there's other things that I'm really struggling with. Well I will say I know I know what you're struggling with. I think the thing that I'm struggling most with his having children during the corona virus. Consider yourself a child because you're probably the hardest part of what I have to deal with during the corona virus. Wow twice I mean what did I do because you complain more than a child? I definitely have three kids. I'll tell you that much I mean. Yeah you have three kids. I take care of you. Listen you wanted honesty. I mean listen. You want to be honest. We'll be honest last Friday. I went to work feeling a little under the weather. I get on the train. I when they gave me the fucking bottle of Pirelli's headed in like one of those little little ones like at the four. Like one that you have for an entire office. I used this all day long. I've sat down alone in my weird little seat and the train was crowded and I everytime I moved in my seat I started lathering my hands up with the pure al. You did because I noticed it was like half empty but I started sniffling on the right in by the time I got to work. People at cats is were saying that. I didn't look good. And that's when I got nervous. May then we went to an event at catering and I have a runny nose and cough during the global pandemic serving Pastrami Coleslaw and potato sowed. So I get very nervous and then on the ride home. The fever hits the fever. It's and I'm sitting with this crazy dude. Who's coughing and I'm like that doesn't make me feel very comfortable that you're coughing and that I said that he was coughing. Yes and then hold him. It made you uncomfortable. He was coughing. I thought I was being funny. That he lab no time for jokes around that kind of thing. He told me that the country has been gearing up for a fake pandemic or is he called a plan. Democ and that there are concentration camps for people that will not get the vaccine ready to go and I said okay. I'm GonNa Watch Madman on my phone in. These scared is one of those. By the time I got home I was sick wasn't yes he was. He had a few he definitely had a fever Okay so one of the things that I've found very helpful to think about That a friend of mine told me I read an article. I can't remember but basically said the One of the things we should do is is if we feel sick. We should say if I felt like this. And there wasn't any such thing as the corona virus. Yes would I be scared? Would I be freaking out? What I think that You know I have a cold or I have a I. Have you know I'm under the weather because you know it's still in the season of sick? There's also it's also in the season of new new allergies budding. Right like there was a high pollen count. I'll say this. Let me just let me just finish. So they are trying to say that to people instead freaking out. Say to yourself if I felt like this and there wasn't a current virus pandemic would I be scared? And if your answer is no then try really hard to continue not to be scared. I wasn't scared I I had a fever. And how do I get when I okay? You're riding around the house screaming that you had the virus. But I wasn't scared. I was just uncomfortable. I had a very high fever shivering in cold and when I get sick like that you're right that don't you think that's aside from you for a moment. Don't you think that's a helpful tool is to say if I had this without a current virus? Even you know being something we would. You be worried. No I would not be what have been worried. I think he would have said well. This might be. Dental tooth is infected. We had but we had. I think we had a misunderstanding because I was never worried about the corona virus. I haven't been I haven't been worried about having I see it as a cold. I see it as a flu. I haven't been worried about it. I think you've been worried about it and you've been worried when I say I have it but I'm just complaining because I always complain when I get sick. Don't I always complain and wine when I get sick? That's my thing and I want you to take care of me and and I guess so that leads back to my initial outburst about having three children when I have a ten year old who is now being home schooled a toddler who's who's a Wackadoo home and now I can't do anything with her and Dave's like I want to be taking care of Corona virus any as one symptom which is a little fever. I'm like Oh my God like I just want him to be like healthy. I hope he's okay. I hope he doesn't have it. But it's hard for me in this crop a pressure cooker in a pressure cooker brain. So it's not. Obviously I want to be more supportive to him and like you know what he has been sick and definitely having weird just strange fevers popping up here and there that's not normal clearly body's fighting something and I'm not denying that but it's like we are literally stuck in this house and it's fucking crazy and like a cycle like my parents like we have to keep six feet from them where my mom dropped off like a Saint Patrick's Day dinner and we're like waving to her through glass door. She's crying or waving and it's like this is like crazy so it's it's just the truth. I WANNA BE EMPATHETIC TO HIS. Like little fevers here and there was some there is what I want you know. Is there a reason to come down on me here? Like we're just having Nice podcast for just having a good time and I think the concern. I think that this should be the concern. Internationally is for people like Linda's parents or my poor dad. My Poor Dad is like I want to come out and it's like dad. You gotta stay on. I think you know how how I'm not being overly sensitive to Dave and I and I wanna be is because there's also so many other factors that I have to tend to like elderly. Parents Children being home schooled. So normally you would be thoughtful and caring of like someone with a little tiny fever meeting room to get tested. I was like there are no test. She's like you go now and I went out there. Just shut the fuck up and guess what he has been complaining. I of the corona. I have the Around I don't I don't talk. I also had a very very sore throat. I had a very when Linda get searched us. It feels like I'm swallowing razor blades. I didn't say that this time but that's how I thought they actually have strep throat like a legitimate illness. I felt like I was swallowing razor blades. And I went to the emergency room and they sent me away and then Linda then they told me to quarantine myself from the family. Dave calls me all little the little chippers they said. I have to be in the basement alone for two weeks and he sounded a little too excited. That I'm like I don't think so. I'm like it's too late. I'm telling you if magic himself watching episode after episode of mad men. If I was quarantined in the basement for two weeks it might be the greatest thing. That's that and that's why. I said you're absolutely not doing that. Because we're all exposed at this point so sorry. Well I'm going to say this that anybody out there who doesn't have children. I hope you're enjoying your quarantine. I hope you're catching up on shows. I hope you're cooking. I hope you're doing cool stuff but people are very anti here that I also feel all the parents out there. I feel your pain. It is not easy I and the other thing about Linda Linda much better parent than I am. I would be fulltime. I mean it's my job. I would be totally satisfied with the television on all day. I would be fine with this so hard. Yes no trust me. It would be easier for me to but I find it anyway. Then they finally opened up testing in Suffolk County and I am. They called me after. I gave Linda the corona virus. One more time they called me they wanNA talk about that. They called me and I went at eight in the morning to Stony Brook well so so John Speech which is part of Jones beach. No matter where you live. It's a place where there's like huge rock concerts in the summer. It's really an incredible. It's a really cool spot. That was the Nassau County testing site. That was up and running and Nassau County of Long Island and they had just opened the Suffolk County testing site on the grounds of Stony Brook University. And Dave was literally one of the first tests that they had done for the virus and it was funny because he had left at seven in the morning as test eight. It was very Right David was very like well orchestrated he. You can't roll down your windows. They come to the car. Everybody's in full gear. It was pouring rain and I drove to Recorded something when I was there so I'm GonNa play for the dopey nation but it was pouring rain fucking on the drive to Stony Brook. We have this this Sirius. Xm Now so. I'm listening to the grateful dead channel. Which is really great and I totally recommend it and get up to the fucking the dudes soldiers in their military fatigues and. I'm like no nobody had guns out. But but it felt like they would and sanitizer in the gun and they're gonNA burst spray you down so I start to open the window and he holds up. His clipboard is leave wind up and they made me like press. The idea on the inside like you can't open your window at the thing until they fuck in Swab You. I got there. This is how organized it was. I got to the test at five minutes to eight. I left the test at ten minutes after it was very organized. All was very organized because Dave was one of the first and now it has become completely chaotic on organ. We can't get there and they told him he could get the results in two days on official website and it turns out. There is no website and in five to seven days. He'll get a result only if he's positive. Do you WanNa hear my observations from the test site. Kinda say one quick thing so we knew Dave was on his way to this testing site every morning. Me and the Girls Watch news twelve. It's like our long island local news and we're sitting watching the news and also the our favorite news cast our girl and she's at the testing site Stony Brook with her umbrella. And we're like. Oh my God we're going to see daddy and we're all waiting to see daddy's car pull up to get a swab stock nostril. Because they were taping. The cars being pulled up and tested. So we're hoping to see but if I don't have the virus what the Fuck is wrong with me? I think you have one of the many things that happens. In toward the end of winter where there's tons and tons of germs. I think seventy heck seventy percent. I want to say this strap. I think you could have Lou. I think you could have a random virus. I just WANNA be serious. Second we have an audience of drug addicts we've an audience of heroin addicts of people who've been withdrawal people in the audience a lot of different people in the islands. But I want to say that corona virus. If I have it it reminds me so much of withdrawal. Because you feel shitty and you don't know when it's GonNa end and like acute withdrawal ends in three days or something but then that post acute withdrawal lasts for a while and here's the good news. Everyone Davis doing podcasts. He's having he's happy we're having fun. He's healthy you know so even if he has it. You're fine no I. I totally agree. That's a good. That's the that's the moral of the story and that's the other thing is that people are. I don't WanNa see people are going to be okay because plenty of people won't spread that but I think it's good for you to also note that you're sitting here. You know having having a good time doing the podcast clearly. You're healthy enough to still to need. I'm having the time in my life right now. This is finally finally the baby. The baby has become. I mean like I never spent so much time with the baby but like I do love the baby but what a pain in the neck. She is only God and there's very funny she's funny and she's fun and I'm happy and I also want to say this. I love not going to work. I fucking love not much. I love you not going to work. Okay but I've I've taken a lot of your duties on. I've taking the baby but I I would love if you were home but you all you like a lot of what you've been doing since you've been home is telling everyone you have the crow virus I have. I have to have you home going. I'm so sick with the cover. Our Environment I don't complain about the Corona Virus. What else do I complain about this thing? Tell them Oh and the other day so maybe people could understand why I'm not like Oh it's so nice having you home hold on. Let me just play my observations from the test site. Hold on so. I'm going to get tested for this thing. drove to Stony Brook in the middle of the serious serious serious rain. Fuck been disastrous. Is the second time I've been to Stony Brook to get tested for this thing. I went to the hospital the other day it was like. Et Kim plastic everywhere. And obviously everybody taking precautions with masks here. It's like an army base. They have you stop then they have you show your ID in the window. Everybody's ready to kill you on site I don't think I have this thing but I've been sick since Friday fever on Friday runny nose and whatever and I don't know just recording this For posterity lot of Weirdos crazy time in America I guess I don't think my thing my say whereas inspired as I thought that was that. Was it not much there? Tell every? Tell everybody of all the problems I've had this week. No walk in every day. I have to hear I. Why do I wanNA relive it right now? I stood up quickly on the stairs and I bang the side of my head into the beam of our basement and now I can't open my mouth wide enough to eat. It's upstairs so let me repeat. Does anyone understand. Why I'm saying that. Having Data Dave home is not some big not to mention the seldom burn. I I sick of your fucking burn. I steamed my arm last week trying to delegation. I'm very bitter tonight trying to clean. I said maybe I shouldn't be on. Come on the show and Dave said every night. Linda tends to my wound when they gets really angry at me all day and then when she tends to my wound she softens the nurse in me comes out the nurse deep deep down so you don't WanNa tell them how nasty the wounds interested. I guess it's healing now. Finally I think it looks better. Yeah so you're not you don't care about the it's it's just it's just a lot of stuff. There's something else that we need to talk about. And you don't want to talk about it. But the dopey nation has been bothering me for weeks now wanting to know what happened to the dog. I never toll. I never revealed if we kept the dog or not. I was hoping you'd come on the show so I could tell my favorite part of the story and we don't have the dog anymore and we don't have the dog because the dog vomited. It's shed in front of us. The dog somehow was in the cage and he got out of the cage and he like convulse stalled dislike from strictly the animal from stranger thing and reared up and then he vomited his shit and I was just like that's it and so I mean there was few reasons. Why would that was? Definitely one of them wasn't we can't have a dog that vomit shouldn't house he was it. I don't even want to talk about because I really really. He was so sweet and he was he was reading a lot of the post from the dopey nation about the dog and I am. I really agreed with a lot of them and you know but he just I think it was a poor choice on my part to get a dog with toddler because it was like they were the same energy crews too much you know they both were this knee and he was also half Chihuahua. Half rat terrier. He wanted so much attention but he was so sweet but then like my toddler wanted attention and then he was started shitting everywhere. Which was the problem and the re the time I realized that he was pooping everywhere was when my toddler got very quiet one morning. And I'm like Oh that's so weird usually like forever and I look over. And she's playing with his poop and I just was like our Camden really was on the fence for a while until my toddler was playing with his poop. And I just I couldn't I couldn't. I didn't even mind the fact that the dog pooped out of his mouth. I thought that was sort of. It was almost like a carnival. Track charming I thought it was interesting. I I you know. It didn't bother me as much as my kid playing with his shed. That was not going to be a healthy situation. I think getting rid of that dog was probably the best thing that's happened. Van Sad this is going to sound crazy but I've actually been thinking about the dog this week and he was. I actually thought he would have been sort of fun to have while we were isolated and I've seen sodium people with their dogs and I'm like. Wow that's kind of a nice thing. They have that we don't during this time because dogs really are so unconditionally. Beautiful and kind and sweet. You're bugging out and I wouldn't have survived I to me. I'm so I couldn't handle everybody in the house with the dog overwhelming so it would have been too much but there's some people you the dog People who own dogs and the Dobie nation will will understand what I'm saying. Dogs definitely a very loving creatures. They bring this beauty to your life that I think could be nice right now that I am not sad that the dog has hit. Hit the road. So we're going to get somebody on the phone. Linda has friend named amber are waiting on pins and needles for Linda's podcast. Doing with friends. You gotta sit closer to the Mike Lynn. If you do a podcast you gotta like amateur. You gotta be up on it. It's Linden Amber GonNa do supposedly do a podcast on motherhood called mother load and amber is very smart and worldly person if I came up with that title by the way and I think amber we'll have some insights into this epidemic beyond me complaining that the World Is Talk Timbre because I need an outlet. I don't think that I've been fair. In the intro of the show the first twenty minutes the world is shutdown. There's no non essential travel that everything is beserk trying every day as more is more dramatic. And I'm just trying to make light and deal with it because that's how I get comfortable in this situation to be fair you've been really sick and I think as much as I I'm a I'm a I'm a therapist and I want to really address things for what they are. Definitely have my moments of denial as well. And it's very scary for me to have my partner ill and this is going on so. I will definitely give Dave credit to say that he's been sick and it's scary and it's scary to have a loved one ill right now whether it's that or it's anything only amount of incredible work. I've done with the children cooking cleaning amber. Let's get. We have amber on the phone and the amber said is say it again amber. Please Linda sometimes you do sound like you're a little too far from the Mike. You gotta you gotTa pull up. How all right amber? You WanNa start that way when I tell when I tell them to move option the Mike Sheets. It's like as though I punched her in the throat. The look on her fuck and really close. I mean I wish we could take a picture. She gets too comfortable. He gets too comfortable with her glass of wine and she was going to say like in my mind she's reclining. She's got a glass of wine armchair. That's exactly what she gets a little talk we've invited amber the future co host of the mother lode coming this summer right amber. Perhaps summer twenty twenty-five maybe and because ambers very bright and worldly woman and I want I am sure amber knows exactly what's going to happen in the world involving the corona virus and I was hoping you could inform the dopey nation. How's IT calling your family? How's your family? What's going on? I think we're all dealing with uncertainty and that is it's super unsettling and I think like everybody else. I've been vacillating between feeling like a warrior. Like God is and repair and I can make my toilet paper. I Bake Bread. I can grow finding Keanu to like feeling like a complete like a complete panic right. Everyone's GonNa get sick. I'M GONNA lose all my ninety at least my job and my whole life is GonNa fall apart so finally like. I think I'm at the end of this week. Where unbalancing out a little bit and just starting to take stock of what's going on. I'm trying not to look at like my retirement account or any of those things you know. It seems like the market is just like there's no bottom by I think like everything else it will pass and through the best thing about you embers unlike Linden ear an actual adult plans and forecasts and savings. You know this is like highly advantageous for people who don't have retirement who don't have investments because you know what the nothing can really happen to us really accept what what's been happening already. She gets sick. I'm already sick but I'm right. You Know I. I don't think I don't think my experience with the Corona virus or the cove in nineteen is going to cripple me. I think I'm going to get through this and be done with it which I remember. Linda told me that was your reaction when you heard that I might have it. Well you know what's interesting about adulting and feeling like an adult? It's like the minute you get there. Which is sort of me like literally this month. I finally or like two months ago really was finally feeling like I've got this down. I'm forty three years old. I have finally figured out lives. I you know I. The things are organized for me. I feel like I finally got there. And an event like this happens and you realize how fragile it all is. Construct are so frail and we are just. We're just victim to them. But it's it's funny everything and it's funny because it's fragile for all of us like that's a good point like we're so there's the adulting piece but then I look at like we look alike are older. The older people and like they are so vulnerable. Like everybody is now. It's like a leveling field. Well it is. I'm sure reminder that we're all really all in the same boat well that's true and what do you think what do you think is coming down the pipe like what like how much worse does get before it gets better like your worldly person not you said? She's calling into China. She knows you did I so i. I actually managed crisis communication. We're talking for a large global company and so this was kind of a big week for me professionally a lot going on also on the home front trying to get organized around the kids being home so if there's a lot there for you say another thing how much does it suck to have the kids home for this time. Her kids are are easy. They lose their cars scarlets. Like a buddy like they're hanging out. It's not like Susan One. It's not like you guys like with with the baby is it's it's it's pretty chill but just getting even trying to get them. Organized around their educations at the whole other thing. That's all but I will say I would. I would share with you is. I was comforted by a conversation that I had with a colleague out of Hong Kong and she was sort of. You know she has. They've they missed their Chinese New Year. They they've been dealing with this for many many weeks since December now and what I learned was that she said you know. Look that the uncertainty. It gets better things start to feel a little bit more certain in the coming weeks and she said the panic buying it stressful but it really only lasts about two weeks and things start to you. Know they're they're coming out the other end of it and the world is opening up again and and things are okay live and resume. There's like there is an endpoint. Even though this is so chaotic and so different than anything we've ever experienced in our generation but there is an end. Do you want to hear how what I did in a panic by in my panic buying I felt like my beard was too long so I sent away for an Amazon Electric Beard. Trimmer and I was so nervous. It wasn't gonNA come soon enough. I just shaved my beard. Can you believe that? That's how that relates but panic bonding I look so old with my eared so I sent away by the end of the Groningen. Look like Moses. I snore goes. Why is daddy buying this right now? I'm like I have everything you're saying you're so far though. No you're my name is right now. Okay well I said that Nora old. We opened the package. We thought it was going to be a thermometer or something something useful and it was a beard. Trimmer chose but mommy. Why does daddy need that? I'm like I have no fucking idea. I couldn't even explain it. What was the greatest thing you bought in a panic by so far number? What are you minimalist molest? She doesn't chat with you. Guys about for a second is Kito versus. Plant based plant based is so on point for the apocalypse because mall. We eat or beans. I have a basement Philippines. We're not eating meat so an Linda had this debate a bunch. But we're not eating meat so we weren't sort of fighting that out in the Super Bowl right. I started buying like I wasn't panicked buying but I started just gently stocking up on supplies like the early February timeframe because I was hearing a lot about this from multiple angles from the financial angle from you know the global ankle from you know the kind of local media and I was just starting to get hints. That something. Something's coming up and what so. I started to just gently sort of you know stock up because what I. I was uncertain about things but what I am. Certain about is how people behave in an emergency and human behavior is so much scarier to me than a virus. Yeah all these is nuts. Buying everything right. That was so clear to me that that was going to happen. You know what house weeks before I was in bed with. Linda and I said Linda tomorrow you need to go to the supermarket and buy provisions and she said nothing's going to happen she said. What are you worried about? Remember yes I do. I told her I was you and me. We're on the same age and she didn't panic. I was like go panic by now. And she wasn't doing it. But yeah I mean I in Bryant very similar that way but I have to tell you that our neighbors have showed up like many times with cases of wipes asking what we need. You know people have been incredibly generous. We've been looking after Linda's parents a little. They brought us some corn beef. It is in another way like a beautiful time for society to come together. It really. Is you see the worst but you see the best in people too and I think it's such an opportunity and I heard this was such an interesting thing. I was listening. I was watching. Meet the press Sunday morning and I can't remember who was speaking but the gentleman who was talking about this vanish flu of nineteen thousand. Nine hundred eighteen. He was saying that It was terrible. Millions and millions of hundreds of thousands of people lost their lives and then when it ended nobody talked about it anymore because everybody was so ashamed of how they behave and I thought that was so compelling and mmediately started thinking about our local food pantry started thinking about. You know many of my neighbors. But you're just checking in with people who I haven't checked in within while because I don't want to come out the other end of this and feel ashamed right well. I think you're doing a good job. You don't have to be ashamed of this appearance on. Dopey and I'm very impressed that you've kept your plant based stuff going. I gave up. Kida the second. I got my fever. Rose like I'm done time to eat cereal with chocolate Syrup Find Comfort. Linda made cupcakes put peanut butter and chocolate frosting on them. This is the time of my life. All I wish we had more cakes in the house. The provisions we don't have enough desert provision. I'll say that plant based day. If you can have all the cupcakes you want based Oh oh is is lit up. I like I don't I don't I think I'M GONNA go. I'm I am until this pandemic lifts I'm just GonNa go back into old school comfort. Eating until until I'm healthy again one-sided once once I passed corona virus I'll Dave's work in the corona virus. This is what's happening on the Corona nineteen the covert nineteen pounds amber. Thank you ever my pleasure. You guys ever happened to the work. You're supposed to be doing for dopey. Though I forgot one of the first incredibly hard working dedicated people amber has a life in the Dome I and then all of a sudden chats then she wrote the best most comprehensive does dopey press release and then she actually got a job. What the fuck number I did. I took a year off and castor and then I got the job but it was. It was a really funding. Your intern for about eight days. I learned a lot and I loved it and I'll come back one day awesome. Thanks guys all right bye. Thank awesome to hear from amber on the show. I think you guys will have an amazing podcast. And I'm sure a lot of the people in the dopey nation will be tuning in to motherlode. Yes but you gotta close to the Mike Now. Boy Don't be a show about drugs addiction and dumb shit and Khurana virus. So let's let's let's well. I guess the Corona virus title for tonight's show but I wanna get a fan favorite of the show the Great Ray Brown Ray Brown on the show and see how he is coping with coping with corona in the big city. Let's check on Ray Ray. Welcome back to the show. Are you drinking fortified vodka right now? Are you maintaining some sort of sobriety for this thing? I'm maintaining some sort of sobriety through this phone thing. Yeah and do you ha- yeah. Linda Linda sipping on wine sitting back in her chair wearing my robe. She's very she's very relaxed. So raise you on Fourteenth Street right now ray. I got you breaking up say again. Are you on Fourteenth Street right now? I'm on Fourteenth Street. Yup is your is your fridge stocked with forbidden chocolate. I have so I've so much food so much ice cream. I was terrified of running out of ice cream by went downstairs. I've been I've loved for two days and then went downstairs ticket some ice cream and I was going. I was in line at Dwayne Reed with my ice cream and then I noticed the lady in front of me like a lady collect bushels of cans. She's like a street person. She was redeeming her cans and she was wearing gloves. The cashiers wearing gloves and the lady was very very dirty street person. And I'm like fuck. Why am I not wearing gloves? And then the the cashier touched this lady stuff and then my stuff and put it in my bag and then I laughed and there was another guy out front any liquid cigarette and it hit me in the odd had a rough day today right. That was like two hours ago. Fateh came upstairs. I washed the ice cream with this deter in the state. Well you wash the container. You didn't open up the container and wash the outside of the container with soap. And Wow so that's them. I I I took off all my clothes and took a shower and then I watched the ice cream. I haven't been crazy. I haven't been like obsessive. But I felt a little crazy tonight array. Why did you take your clothes off to get in the shower? Why didn't you wash your clothes in the shower? Well I've been taking my launch into laundry as you know but now I'm wondering if you think is your clothes are closed mixed with all the other Gulf closed. They watched that day. And you get the virus. The Corona clothes and regular saying ray was saying that to people that job have it and a bunch of people on his billing habits. Now you can. You can go so ray you can go so crazy with this thing because you're pretty much. Every single thing has been touched by some thing else so I was. I found myself googling earlier. Like my mom. Those you can look online and see how long the virus as on different types of surfaces what how long for the carbon hours on cardboard cardboard three days on plastic so. I love my shoes outside. -partment rhythm inside. How long do you think it would last on soiled clothing or on a cigarette but I choose your? I know you've no control over that one. That was now. There's more rank job have it and I don't know it's been seven days since I was at work and I don't have it in the man you know. The typical time is five days. I might have it but no symptoms such a crazy fucking thing. Can I ask you a personal question right? Has that ever stopped you before you really do? Think I have the corona virus boy? Yes I do see place that I've thought that for a week C. OR C. And I bet if he'd take good care of me too right right. Hey Dave just Mark Davis wants to be with you because you have a cigarette butts and I am not into that good stuff to offer. I think a lot of us have found. I mean the more people at my job have had have had it and friends of mine have had what is clearly like that guy was crying about on the show he had it. I mean it's it's all around me I was had. When doesn't believe possibly have it now? You have it. Dave wants to have headlines like annoying and he just looks me went into like a little bit tell us about the dopey raided a doping meeting online zoom zoom dopey group rate like Colleen. Set it up and it was really fantastic. I was kind of Leery. I'm not sure what we're going to do what we're GONNA talk about. And then another colleen she said she has. It and her family has like her husband. Has Our kids have it and I'll just cool to talk to everybody that you see on doping nation. I mean like Austin I met at a dopey combat just to chat with everybody. I think everybody dug it. There was like twenty something people. They're awesome love that it was. You know how I am meetings. Never talk at meetings. I don't know what to say but it was kind of like I felt like I should say something and I said from being on Dobie people have written to me like you know. I'm not a meeting guy and I've never been as soon as my sponsors stop taking me. I stopped going. I never got the magic or any of that. I did stop drinking. I did the steps and I stopped drinking but I didn't get that like helping others. And that helped me but when the people right to me on doping nation then. I started doing that and now I've kind of got that like. Oh you need that. Method worked for you in the meetings. Maybe didn't work for you. But dopey nation reaching out to you that affected you in some way. That may be a meeting. Didn't yes very serious out of something about meeting. It's just put me off with this. Was it was more fun. You know. It's because it's stupid doping nations so it's not like you know meetings can be so serious sometimes and I never reached. I'm Kinda shy at meetings. I don't want to talk to anybody. I never give people my number. That kind of stuff did you. Did you share about eating pubic hair and licking up urine off the toilet and Zumra? No now what did you did. You share it. What did you share about? Did you share about Super Vodka and living and all? I just smashing the dude with the record player. Oh you said so. The alternative the alternative recovery movement is working for. You is what you're saying. Yeah that's what I just said. Let me ask you and I think that's really cool. I think it's amazing. I think you are a shining example. Of how Dobie are you going to say? I'm sorry for interrupting. You know there's something about meetings you know. I hated school. I left school very early. There's something about the regimented organized part of it and I think that's my thing with meetings is like I just didn't take to it and this is like fun. It's the Internet it's facebook. You know goofy that I could get into it and not like be like ten south at it. You know right. It's good it's dumb. Shit that keeps you alive in Dopey. Yeah that meetings reminded me of school right away and I hated school insurance or your parents. Being Ray hated his parents right virus. Let me ask you. Who are these people? And why are they interfering in my life? Yeah let me ask you. What do you think addicts out? There in the world are doing right now. How do you think they're getting by you? Know like wh what. Can you imagine how tough it must be to be a heroin addict during the glorifies Google today like like power people getting heroin. Heroin Corona virus and nothing comes up just weird random searches. I couldn't find any answers about drug supply in America during Corona virus so underground. There's no articles written about this. Yeah I'm sure there's some new member win win like just with weed. People be like the whole town is dry. You know well you probably never had that here in New York. But we had that in and my small town like the whole town is dry. I would have that in. Ithaca you know and it was very very annoying but it's interesting and I actually have a bunch of addicts that I've reached out to and we none of them are. I have one addict that's using. I haven't heard his message yet but we're going to play his message in a minute right. I just want to say thank you though. For participating in the Dobie podcast Corona specials chronic twenty twenty. And it's a it's an important part in check in courage everyone to check out this zoom with Alli in and this other Guy Ben is going to do to but it was really cool it was like people from Dopey Reta like those people that weren't on Dopey facebook nation their dope dopey rhetoric. People were there. What are they saying? It was kind of a meeting like people that was kind of structured like a meeting and then at the end everybody was just chatting and I liked the format of zoom cooled. Whoever hat way how does that format so I started a support group on facebook? Just it's it's just a coronavirus support group but it's run by so but but colleen put that post for that on there and and my question for you because I was wondering is how does it. How does it even work like? What does it feel like? When you're aren't what is the format? You download zoom and it's very easy and then you put in when the meeting starts you. I copy and paste it the number the meeting number you put it on their you put in the Password. Which is tools? And then you're in the meeting and you see everybody in front of you and then when someone speaks it features that person's as you can see you can see the actual person though yet. Whoever speaks the features them and then when they stop speaking shows like everybody again? Did you wear dopey hat or dopey shirt map? Well I'm wearing one now because I was just on another zoom thing and I didn't. I held it up because people were wearing them and I took Martin. Put it in front of me. But I didn't wear sign advertises podcast very shameful and is wearing her her her prototype. Dopey tank top right now. Trump. A new Dobie say come in. Come in soon as what would you? When do you think we'll get to see each other again? And you could record in person again. What is your prediction when the quarantine will end? Well there's no corn Jane. I could meet you at your dad's anytime dude. I'm fucking sick. You want to get this thing. Oh well I don't know what is it a year two years two months like dude. What do you think? When is it going to be done? Why are you having? Can I ride the train? When is it going to be okay to Greek? Everything seems normal downstairs. It's like there's no quarantine. The trains are running. Why don't you just give it a good old zoom you want to do the Alaskan Zoom Zoom? Good I mean say up to two weeks is what what? I've been hearing all right. Well two weeks ray. It's always a pleasure to have you on the data from you. Nice to talk to you. Linda talk soon. Stay inside. Don't drink any fortified vodka. It's good that you're doing the laundry. May It's forbidden. Chocolate seems like the way to go and this and thank you okay. Can I the great ray back on the show? I love having ray on the show me now. I know you know about this but I don't know how much you know about this. The dopey scholarships are going bananas. We have Josh in transcend recovery. He went to mountainside we have Charlotte. Who is in turn bridge in a new Canaan Connecticut and we have this dude? Dj Aka Dan who is on Dopey a couple of times. He was on ships right now. Well Really Josh Got Scholarships. He got one scholarship for mountainside in one scholarship to transcend recovery. Which is after care. Charlotte Intern Bridge for. I think nine months and she's doing well Nice. That's a nice scholar Shonka termer just been very generous and aloe is taking in Don for six months and he caught a flight to La for twenty two dollars because nobody's flying and he he's so fucked up on drugs that I couldn't get him on the phone so he sent in to voicemails and I WANNA play. You want to hear all right. I say that with love and respect don heroin and Klina pin and everything. He's shooting so much dope he's got abscesses and he's a he's a mess But we really loved on and he can get it at anyone can get it. He can get it on your show. What's up dopey nation? This is don calling or some no means DJ And I've I've been on the show a couple of times And I'm calling in to give a little upstate I am getting ready to get on a plane and go to Alloa Treatment Center in Sunny California Which Dave advertises on the phone and I love the advertisement. He says if you're Fox and you need Treatment Treatment Center Is a great place to go. And I absolutely feel like that I've been in touch with Dave Dave Dave for several years throughout friend mutual friend tatty. Who was a friend of Chris is And Chris as well God Rest in peace But anyways over the years have gotten to know Dave I made huge fan as a matter of fact I'm wearing my black. Dopey Hoodie right now. But anyway she cut to the cut to the chase I last time I was on Dopey I was on. Methadone and I was talking about the The awful awful Thing that that Methadone is and how hard it is to get off. Thank God I was able to finally get off this back in August and fortunately I've been unable to stay off of here crack cocaine which are To drugs a choice which I jack together there's speed ball and more or less since. August things have continued to deteriorate somehow some way they will keep a pretty darn good job where. I'm making good money so I've been able to to maintain type of facade. Where very few people know what's going on As a matter of fact I'm supposed to fly out tomorrow evening and My mother doesn't even know which I have to laugh because it's so absurd And so I actually just went online and I moved my 'til Monday because like being being being a good drug drug addict I went ahead and I took a ten clone can about forty eight hours ago ten one milligram and essentially lost the last two days so all the things I was supposed to get done in terms of packing and getting my fares in order didn't have because I was I was totally blacked out but Anyway let me cut to the point. Here I was able to to re book my flight for Monday. Through Spirit Airlines for a whopping eighteen dollars I guess it's one of the very few good things about this phone viruses. Flights are ridiculously cheap. The point I wanna make is you know. I'm just turned thirty two on Sunday. And doing this until I was sixteen and You know sometimes still live I had had bouts of Of Spidey I love recovery. When I'm in it I just You know I get I get I get impatient. Things get better and I want more. I want more and they don't come as quick as I'd like him and I ended up picking up and inevitably. I can't stop and they end up back in treatment and so I feel extremely fortunate the days into the whole dopey nation for for for this opportunity Absolutely intent on making the most of it and as far as I know talking to date. I'm hoping to To do semi regular segments Mucho. Know how I'm doing and also to the details on how awesome of a facility Arrow. Is that the people I spoke to there. So far church Brandon and Then incredible and so I will open a chance to talk about them. Talk about how. I'm progressing and Everybody out there stay safe and if you are on the fence and you're thinking about going back out don't do take it from someone who's been doing it and it is fucking miserable giant hole in my arm like To seen requiem for dream some arm looks like opening at the placed off The the sober way of life. Although it's difficult at times maybe even boring. Some may say a hell of a lot better than than than the spray hurting others hurting ourselves. So they strong dopey nation. Dave thank you for all the you do and And tutors for Christmas. I stay strong dopey nation. We'll talk to you soon right to hear from John. That was great. What a fucking maths and I think. He really illustrated it perfectly. Anybody who's fucking around out there. You can get better don sounds. He's got a really good head on their shoulders. Well the deal is like I mean it's something I forget all the time with our nice suburban life and like me making fun of myself that I'm scared I'm sick and then I burned my arm. Whatever you know years ago I was. You know I had abscesses and I couldn't stop shooting dope and I couldn't stop buying drugs and I didn't want to stop and and the fact that my life is still the same life as that life and I'm sober and I have freedom and we have each other in this house it's like I don't WanNa be preachy. But like your life can get better. If you're on the fence about it you could. You could make some actions in your life. Could get better and it's amazing and and I'm glad that Al is going to give Don along stand and I think that's what he needs in a lot of people need a fucking break you know. Yeah Anyway. It's funny that I feel like telling you been cleaned for what five years five years this summer. Four and a half years and Dave even still to this day We're members like it was yesterday What it was like to be I am I trying to say. I don't know what he's doing is that I feel like it's still very fresh for you. And it's been almost five years what it was like when your life was in complete shambles and so when you hear a friend like Don or when you when you talk to different people who are still out on the street or using or just got clean. You're you're like right there with that person because you haven't forgotten after five years what it was like to be a really bad way on the thing I forget. What are you going to say? No I mean I don't I don't want to speak for you. Do you know I accurate. I forget everything you were sitting down to watch top chef and Newroz talking about some of the contestants from last year. I don't remember any of them nor is like Oh. I remember the guy with the mustache and I was like. I don't know who that is. I forget everything but as it because it. It's there's some trauma associated with it that it's so fresh and you're like you can so quickly connect to it or we can also talk about trauma and that was the woman woman's name is spoke about trauma. How you forget Alexis. Yes Alexis was saying that you forget things that are traumatic but then I also feel like for you. It's almost opposite where it's so raw for you your years of using drugs that can so quickly connect to it you know. I honestly feel like for me like it's a new life like I feel totally separated from the last life until I hear from somebody like Don brings you right back and I remember when done came on the show. He came to my apartment on Grand Street and Chris was there and we didn't even have a Mike. We're talking into the computer. That's three of them and he was on. Methadone and He was telling these USO. How long were you in? I was sober for five months. Have been sober for like two years and a half years or something and I had done heroin for a while though you know when I got sober. It'd been awhile since I had done heroin but but I wasn't doing heroin five months before I got. So broad is smoking weed but the deal is like for me. It feels like I've lived many lives and those lives feel like way back in the past until I hear about the struggle and then when I hear about the struggle I just feel incredibly lucky. Dave's face listening to done talking and I could see in your face that you were really connecting everything he was saying like you were having these reactions. Are you talking about the drug? She was shooting up. And you're going like he was having his own kind of experience next to me quietly and I could see him really almost living it right in a way. I was watching you the corner of my eye and I think that's interesting and it's been almost five years so it's still that close to close to reality but it's still on the surface and a lot of ways it's I just feel incredibly fortunate and it's a miraculous thing that happened to me. I also feel badly. It's exciting for Don. Then he gets to go to aloe for what six months was absent nicer way to look at it and I know that he has struggled. I've talked to Don off and on and I talked to a bunch of people who can't stop using. I want to tell you a funny story. I think it was two weeks ago right. You know every morning I get up at four forty in the morning lately since you've had the chronicler God's own virus it's nice long yes I think sleeping nicely and of course I can't wake him up because he has the corona virus so really been working his nice phase. We're in right now. Yeah days enjoying it but you know for for a long time I was doing catering event every day and I was up every morning at four forty s and one morning every morning. I go downstairs and I set up my computer and I usually put madman on and I clean up the kitchen. I make coffee whatever and I put on my computer and I put madman on and all of a sudden I get a text to the Dopey podcast facebook group. And it's this dude in Mexico and he's tripping acid okay and he. It's four forty in the morning. I'm on my way to cater a time difference. Probably I think it was probably like one four in the morning and he was like on vacation in Mexico or something. And he's like Dave. I need help. I'm tripping answers because I need help. I need to be grounded and I was like dude as like I ruined back I wrote. I sent him a link to a funke. Delic song called good thoughts bad thoughts and I said Dude. You should check out the song while you're tripping because it's very bad place. That song could have gotten him and that's what. I thought being a guy guiding trying to get sort of shame in for him and I sent him good thoughts and then helped go on. I don't want to listen to this bullshit. Clearly understand what he's like. I need help like dude. I'm fucking going to cater right now. I don't know how I can help you. He goes he goes. I just WANNA get wavy as. Let's WanNa get wavy in the streets. What does that mean like? He wanted to go out and have fun anyway. Ten days later I heard from him again and he has ten days sober now. And he sent in a voicemail and he said did I talk to you while I was tripping and I was like yeah I told you to listen to good thoughts bad thoughts. He's like Oh yeah and he said I just listened to it and I wish I had listened to it while I was traveling. Probably Dobie fans who are still using acid. There's there's your if you're a dope advice in your in your tripping acid or mushrooms or ecstasy or even emt. I strongly recommend listening to fungus delic. Good thoughts bad thoughts. It answers all the questions of life. Don't you want to also say did not use drugs who I like to say? Let your freak flag fly if you're young and you add stuff to do and not every person. That trip wavy. I'm not gonNA listen to that. You're not gonNA hit wavy and listen to good though. I don't think you hate the every time. That song comes on Linda Go. Oh No it's annoying anyway. Here Dude. This Christian Christian from Louisiana three three seven represent. Same place that Jed from Church and other drugs from bringing us some dopey stories back from Mardi gras this. Last Mardi Gra a couple of weeks ago. took a trip down to COSMO COSMO Mexico and they celebrate carnival down there which is derivative of the same thing. Mardi gras from so. They're having the parades and all that shit and And I'm real fucking drunk. One night or hotel had a nice mini Bar In the room all inclusive so it was real hammered. I'd smuggled to mass with me so I dropped the TAB we've Ford the kick in and then it's probably about two or three in the morning so I head down to this concert there having for the locals locals only there's no fucking there's no Americans there except for me and so I had down there and party with a little bit and then I noticed. There's this tent with foosball tables underneath so I go play some foods ball kick some ass and turn around. And there's there's another pool table with one versus two so like all right this guy so I'll walk over and I'm not even fucking exaggerating. This dude is four or five with Koby Bryan Jersey down to his knees and they're calling them low. Kobe is his nickname. Is Low coby so playing foosball with low koby and he notices? I haven't Lsu shirt on and he's like. Oh Go Tigers unless you borough hell yeah man fucking fucking and every time we score point. He's like go tigers. Yeah so so. We finished the game. The other guys bias around in the year and decide to give them loco via my Lsu shirt to remember me by to remember the night so gave them my Lsu shirt we part ways go back to the hotel drink a little more we come down pass out next day me and my uncle go to try to find some weed in the town and a guy on a street corner points to this shop and walk in really. Hey we heard y'all had some weed and about four guys in there. One of them walks in the bag and comes out with none other than fuck in Little Kobe. Low fuckin- Kobe's still four five still wearing the Kobe. Brian Jersey Down was focusing knees. And he doesn't remember me. He doesn't show any recognition for me but I'm wearing a different shirt. Obviously given him my shirt but my uncle was wearing a shirt because he's also a big lsu fan and Locally go tigers who really cool so you got some weed and he pulls out these baggies but an age value this shitty Mexican ditch weed and my uncle buys fucking eighth for like ninety bucks. Didn't even try to negotiate. And so we got this ninety dollars Mexican ditch weed as we head back to those roller blunt start hidden in an. It's obviously fucking laced. Were were sky. Faulk an eye of this Mexican dish. We'd were drooling fucking staggering around or faulk off of this Mexican dish. We'd row. It's I mean it's lace with something and so that night. My uncle had gone to bed. I'm hammering the alcohol Fucking smoking the Shit and drop another TAB drives mobile from the states and probably the four five in the morning I had come down from the acid Still Smoking leads still drinking and I decided I needed some chaos cause for about seven months before this I had been drinking and and using pills real heavy and smoking weed and psychedelics obviously but alcohol and the pills were the huge problem and I knew that I needed to get my shit together but I needed something to push me into sobriety. You guys understand. I needed the chaos so while I'm in Mexico decide what better time into fucking have chaos here you know what fuck and better place so. I decided that I'm going to leave the hotel and in my head. I can't just walk out the door. It's like five in the morning is workers down there one shooter on my hair's all fucked my shirt's torn. I'm fucked so I can't just walk out the front door. I can't do that so I find this This stairwell for the employees with like a restaurant kitchen doors. You know the metal panel the at the bottom the fuck in the glass Circle Windows and I started kind of push open. Road slow non. I'm not gonNA swing it open because I don't want to alert anybody but it probably would have been more quiet. Just do that because I'll start pushing them open. It's just creek in real fucking louder you know and and as soon as I get through the door you know. I'm looking for cameras and sheet as soon as I get through the door. I hear the door at the bottom of the stairwell. Fucking swing open and in my head this dude through the door open. It's an armed federale. Falcon running up the stairwell. He's GonNa shoot my ass. He's going to resume. I don't know but in my head I'm being chased by fucking pelissier right now. Probably wasn't it. It was just an employee the fucking hotel but anyway so in my head. This dude is sprinting. Up The stairwell coming after me so I turn it back to my room fucking through the maze of hallways back to my room. Had A can of coke can filled with Tequila throws planning on bringing with me so that I could drink while I was out. 'cause they'll stop you. If you have like Obama alcohol you know so I eat shit on one of the turns fucking drop the can scrape my knees in Busta. My Shoulder Anna. Standup fucking grabbed. The can finish was left because have over two born house off finish. What's left throw it on the ground and going back to my room and I had gone up a level for some reason so go down some stairs so I turned run down the stairs and I see you all down the stairs. A made pushing her cart and I stopped slowed to a walking pace acting. Like I'm not fucking running away from shadow demons and and I say willows Diaz as best as I can and I was like one on the US and like she's looking at me with his fucking face like what the fuck are you doing. Are you okay. So kind of nod at her and and I mean I'm fucking drenched in sweat. I'm all fucking ratchet. Each you know something's going on but anyway so as soon as she's got is fucking sprint again. I know she heard my fucking footsteps. Sprinting down that stairwell and get back to my room. Swing THE DOOR OPEN. Slanted that close. Look through the people nobody's there. I'm like hell you fucking God away from these fucking we see our REBA and So I head back to the balcony of this game is sleep and amount of cigarettes so I grab a new pack and I can't book and figure out how to open the plastic tab so I use my teeth fucking terror shoot open and I'm smoking cigarettes down and the filter and I start putting them out on my arm. I need chaos. I didn't get enough chaos so I start putting them out on my arm and about halfway through the pack. I switched my chest putting him out of my chest and this shit is disgusting. Roy It's it's the skins bubbling when I pulled the filter away. It's like it's like the fuck in lake. Literal strings of skin are still stuck to the filter that he'd like burned on there. And you so fucking nasty. Little melted plastic burrows disgusting. And the next day you know my shirts getting stuck to the to the burn wounds and Shit. It's was not a good experience. Highly recommend not putting cigarettes on your chest. It's not a good time but anyway so get through the next day or recharge some folks. I'm like hey I need to get my shit together on Mexico right now but when I get back you know. Let's do this shit so reach out to the people of my hometown get two sponsors one from before and one new guy so I got to sponsored right now. Doing the work reached out. Dave reached out to the DOPEY nation reached out to all the guys and laugh yet. I'm doing month look and being. I'm getting buck and clean. I got some guys that want me to sponsor them when I get through the steps. I'm real fucking hype about that but anyway just wanted to think that. Ob Nation. Thank you Dave especially fucking Andrew g from the DOBIE nation facebook page. He has helped tremendously. He's been messaging me. He's been calling me. Thank you so much Andrew but yeah that's all I got so thank you dopey nation. Thank you dave. Thank you Andrew. Love you guys. Stay strong nation and tools for Chris. I love that. I can't believe you did mention fucking funke. Delic or getting wavy or any of that. He had a lot of other things you need to talk about. But he does shout out good old Andrew Mate and Andrews Ange very cool. Andrew is a Biller of the Dobie community and he sent in a little corona update. You WanNa hero Andrew. I would love to hear from Andrew. Here we go up Dave. What's up? Dopey nation this is Andrew from Philly. I hope everyone's hang in there. This should is crazy I'm glad I'm still working a low. I don't feel like going to work but at least I'm still making money more worried about my daughter worried about my wife. She's an ICU nurse. But I'm glad I'm still not getting high needs to talk. Hit me up Dave. Stay safe in New York and I figure if all that dope didn't kill us will probably be our through this so yeah stay strong. Dopey nation totals dope. Didn't kill us. This is going to be fine. I'm glad Andrew brought us back to the corona talk. I think it's I think it's time we turn to My father the Great Allen and see how es surviving. I think I can. I just say one thing. About what Andrew please. I'm sorry so you're not very sensitive to the corona virus situation clearly. He's trying to have a good. I'm kidding but I WANNA meant so not to talk about like the support group that that's on facebook. I'm not even. How do people find your corona virus support? Doesn't it's so doesn't matter but the one thing I want to say is that Andrew mentioned on it and that's how I knew that he mentioned his wife and that she is one of those those people that are that I think are actually like their heroes. You know they leave every day and they go to hospitals and they go to help take care of us when we're not well and She's on the front lines of this thing risking life and limb for the good of the world. Yeah so we command Andrews Wa and Andrew has a toddler yes the same age as we do so then her the his wife and and mom comes home and I really admire that so anyway I just wanted to make sure that was heard. Andrus were saying Andrew's wife is a hero and we commend her Andrew's wife. So now let's see about getting my dad on the phone. This should be fun. Oh Boy all right dad. Welcome to the show. How are you surviving with the Corona Virus in Manhattan? You're you are vulnerable member of the community. You're over seventy five. Your health is not particularly great. Your fragile you're in a building full of other over seventy five year old shut INS. What are you doing to stave off boredom? Cut It out? Cut It out. Come on I'm fine. I'm okay Linda and my end. Suzanne Nora word about my grandchildren Nina Alex. What are you worried about because you guys are the ones who are seem to be problems? You you're coughing temperature. I have no temperature. I feel good. I walked twenty one radio better but I'm not doing that again. And and I wearing a mask When somebody gets into the elevator I get out and I've been walking walking miles and miles. Let me tell the dopey nation New York City We're we're in deep trouble Streets are girded while the door is closed. Everything's closed and I remember. I remember three weeks ago. I was getting nervous. And you said you got nothing to be nervous about. Nothing's going to happen. I'm going to go to San Francisco Blah Blah Blah. I remember this whole thing again. You're you're you're misstating. I said all I said was don't panic. Remember I bought I remember what extra herring and Seltzer. So I knew I knew we needed to have the important stuff in the house. I knew that so. It sounds like you're panicking now though you panicking. No I was really worried about you and Linda does not sound like he's panicking at all. Would you say you are worried because you know I probably have? The Corona virus was appointed. A matter is that he did you tell the Dobie nation you got tested yes. Of course okay. Well the results haven't in common but your symptoms of very very minor worried about Linda and Susie and Laura and Well I hope you. How are you Linda? I'm out at everybody's everybody's okay. Yeah so so anyway so The city is it's eerie. It's it's it's very very very incredibly opposite of what it is in other words broadcast here. You wouldn't hear any sirens outside the ambulance. It's very quite. There's hardly any traffic on eighth avenue. It's it's incredibly Have you been walking around a lot? Oh Yeah I was walking all along the Hudson River today trying trying to be smart as I'm walking and all of a sudden as I'm walking this guy runs right next to me. And as he standing next to me off and I'm saying you know. Give me a break like this guy is running a marathon. He's going hundred miles an hour still presume. He's healthy so listen to this story. My Dad so my father has Alzheimer's and Doesn't necessarily understand what's going on and my mom and my dad were going for a walk through the park today and there. It's a beautiful day. People are out right but there's people out and about but they're all starting to get used to the fact that they need to keep distance exter- ten feet distance. So it's funny. You were starting to notice that everyone's kind of doing that but naturally it's strange but So my mom told me that a woman was sitting on a bench with her dog and her and my dad were walking by and my dad goes over to pet the duck forgetting that there's coronavirus and just you know just operating very natural like how we would naturally life and the woman started yelling at my father for having the dog sound like my dad tried to like French Gisar. You know but I tried to take the elevator to get. I was wearing a mask beautiful gardens to the elevator all along with a New York City where you escaping and they said New Jersey which doesn't sound like much of an escape. A elevator stopped on the floor. And somebody was going to get in but I got out thefts. Might you flat the elevator. The New Jersey Corona virus isolated. Yes and then. I walked down eight flights from their cell. My Dad Akeso Allen. My Dad goes the pet. This woman's dog you'd she's starts yelling at my dad and she started saying you know we're practicing social distancing. We heard her dog. My mom goes. Oh I'm so sorry no my weed and she goes you. Please do not touch. Do not touch US and starts yell at my Dad's like I'll like. I had no idea what was happening. My mom was like I'm sorry and come on come on Tony and grabs my dad and the woman went bananas so then everybody us is is. We're afraid my mom. The irony is my mother. Didn't fault the woman at all. She was sad that my dad is didn't get it that she said you know she said that one hundred percent right no wonder everybody out in the dopey nation having to figure out how to deal with this stuff. Yeah you know. I had this huge list of things I supposed to do every day and tell us tell us your list. Your sad list of tasks like step one myself. A BOWL OF CEREAL. One hundred pieces of honey nut cheerios. Fifty pieces of rice crispy treats to Allen's next time I do have. I do have a large supply of cookies which is a dangerous. I'M AFRAID OF GAINING OUT. Needs to call the zoom meeting for his cookie addiction. And listen so what's on your schedule. You count the Serio and then you spend twenty minutes doing the teams. Excuse me. I have very important things to do. I have to do online course which I have no clue how to do but I'm doing it. I have to check in with the students to see if they're sending me in their their work. I I've been I've been doing. I've been doing exercises. I did push ups and wait. Wait rings era that I've got the GARONA virus another reason. Why Dave's glad he has the coder. Corona virus isn't that the extra size down. I'm like I say I am not afraid and I'm neck deep in the virus. I you wanted to come out. You were like I'm healthy. I can come out. You'd be dying right now if you come out because you would have gotten a heavy dose of my corona cover especially right. I know you wouldn't drink any on because I know that alcohol. Is that what you get involved with you that did did you hear the corona and lime disease? You've got this book i WanNa hear it. That was the journal at some lime disease mean come together anyway I think we should be more serious. This is this is a very very difficult times and Linda. That groupie started was really very nice. That's good getting quite getting a lot of activity but I think getting scared as people get more. That group's going to get. Well they gotta be a again. I'm going to say you gotta be calm down but you really gotta listen to not associate with. Your friends are very intense on that. Your friends are actually very vocal in that group. Really Your Big Mouth Friends. The big old timers. They're scaring Linda's friends. But the question is dad. How long do you think this is GonNa go on? How long do you think is pseudo quarantine will ask? When do you think you'll have the book club resume? When are you gonNA come back out to Long Island? What do you think is happening? Howard Cosell we're well I can tell you I. I think it's GonNa last certainly until. May I think it's not gonNA come down until May and I hope it calms down? Then I don't know and and the terms of Mindich and ask you about the restaurant is going to bring that up But that's the best thing about. The Corona virus is not going to work and the worst thing staying home with the children. It's a double edged sword. Yes well now you know what Linda was putting up. Thank you Allan. She loves being a stay at home. Mom Nine with three children. We talked about earlier. Everybody needs a break from different kinds of things look sounds like the dopey nation. We're having their own meetings today. Something they were they were getting together with. Is that the zoom zoom meeting that. No no I. I watched what they do. I see what they do. I read what they write but I thought WANNA get. I don't want to get on that stuff. I need my privacy. This but but they're worried about me. There were people who were worried because you keep telling them how fragile I was. I wasn't lying. I wasn't lying. You're very old and very fragile to be you need. Your Dad is an amazing shape. He's an for an old man man. He's in great shape. It's like it's like it's like being the smartest guy or the tall short guy or something. Where just calm down this? That's that's enough that by the way you know. You did have trauma when you were young. Yes yeah you know you would dropped on your head a couple of times that they'll be nation knows that it's not to mention your your your friend your friend and all the sexual trauma that I probably went through that. I've repressed that Iran. Let listen. That's shaking my head him. Alan with the The staff back that could the trauma considered trauma also at age. I stash infection. What do you mean what are you talking about you were hospital is when you were eight days old? I know but what are you talking about helping that? They did know about that. So yes so on the show you mentioned. I think when Christmas alive when we did the show with Chris that when I was eight days old I add a staph infection. Layer of my skin came off so a back on. And you're saying that that trauma plus repeated blows to the head and perhaps some sexual traumas well all Choas coalesced into me having heroin addiction. That's what you're saying. No that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that all let's forget the sex stuff would not sexually abused by UNICEF. Say Well it's easy for me true but but you didn't get dropped on your head but then again at age four years old you've had enough intelligence to the best school in Manhattan. So obviously that didn't that didn't stop you From that and But who knows what trauma in terms of so young because I heard it from another story that the Abadie who had that is suffering later with addiction problem so I don't I don't know the whole thing is just very difficult to understand how somebody has. This aversion for addiction some or This problem of addiction. I should say not aversion this. This is is is better than having a problem risk. So you're saying that other people argue that even being born the trauma for a baby that everybody has a trauma the trauma of birth? Yeah the birth process. This is but listen. Obviously everybody you know if survive. The birth process in life is the Toronto. I mean that's probably the the bottom line getting through life. This is it. Everybody has to deal with all this. I think this is. I think I'm selling by traumatize. We wonderful and sometimes it's not now we have to get through with this and And it was smart. We can get through. I guess you gotTa be Lucky also but also smart and not associated with too many people faced faced with this corona thing. Data was a pleasure to have you on the show. I think this appearance might traumatize me further. Maybe you should start writing a book about addiction and trump. I have no fucking expert. I am your impossible. I am not an expert. Never said it wasn't expert and And maybe you should find some experts. Come on the show Maybe you won't find ending but I think I think you're doing a good job doing what you're doing and I'm very proud of you. Wow Movie Glove Alan and you wonderful children and everybody out there. Please stay healthy okay. All right all right so thinking that because I want to go to sleep all right bye. Bye All right. Well there's my dad. Everybody loves my dad on the show. Can't not not love Alan. He's the best and I think we're going to go an expert now. We had the privilege right here. What would you like to now? You had the privilege of talking to the Great Bob Forrest about the corona virus and its impact in Los Angeles at His Treatment Center. We're actually done is going to So here's Bob so whenever whenever there's a terrible crisis in the world we get Bob Forrest on the phone but I need to fully disclose Bob was just on fire for four minutes but because because I have the corona virus. I forgot to plug the fucking mixer into the computer so I Apologize Bob. I Apologize dopey nation. How are you feeling Bob you scared? I'm never scared and nothing ever scares but I am. I am shocked and awed by the response to something that is that is scary in unknowable. Whatever but the facts of faxes you know by twenty five. The estimates are a million. Americans have died of drug overdoses. You ever hear anything about on the news about that dead anything that rarely rarely yeah. Seventy eighty thousand one hundred thousand dollars. He always under reported to. I think it's been the skyrocketing death rates since two thousand and goes from thirty thousand to fifty hang right thirty thousand and fifty thousand seventy thousand eighty thousand and that's under reporting right and and you know by twenty twenty. Five million people are going to drive drugs in America. You don't hear anything about it. We're not even doing anything about it. We don't do anything about it. And how this that is. You know. Everybody's got their opinions about it. That is a frightening but it doesn't affect eighty percent of the people who live live in the society are are at little No risk and this information. Here's what I know about the medical profession because I've been working for twenty years. They're always three most cautious right. You can't live a life being as cautious as the medical profession. Wants you to be right. It's it's unachievable right. And now they're in charge of our society and to what end. Bob Is there a bigger story or do you think it is just fear of this thing? I think they're not talking about. The real issues is is that they use terms that are very fadigan sound very Christian Lake and are most vulnerable right our most vulnerable. What does that term mean? It means they don't want to say the people that have been thrown away by their families who are living in nursing homes and godly practice in America right or isolated who are vulnerable vulnerable and I give the example. My Aunt Abby was her name is apple. Glad she's my idol. She's why would I do? She was the greatest woman I ever have known. She worked in healthcare and nursing and she. She always what's helpful? She was always kind always thoughtful. She's like the angel of our family in answer. One time like Andy. Why why are you in such a good mood all the time? And she goes on Bobby. Edges of healthy. I just love helping right. So what do we do the simple? If you're good at the twelfth step work Love helping I. Don't do it for any other reason than I like helping people so she you know because she lived this good Christian Life. She lived to be like ninety six years old. She was in a nursing home in time. She was like you're eighty nine or something. She had Fallen Brooklyn. Hip All the stories that we all hear about our grandparents. Great Grandparents Avalanche. I loved her and she was at a nursing home. That was on my way home from Joshua Tree on Sunday nights he stop bringing food and sit with her and talk with her and she said the most profound thing she had lost her. Most of our hearings couldn't really hear that while she couldn't she went blind. She couldn't get around and she's living in this room this nursing home and she said. Bobby I gotTa tell you I pray every night to the Lord take me. Wow because she knew what was going on. Yeah your purpose. Illness and usefulness. It's gone but we can't talk about that stuff right now. We need to protect our Muslim rebel and so to all these bigger and bigger ideas American never thinks about talks about. It only happens on podcast like this like you know. We want to protect people but we wanted to destroy a society to protect our most vulnerable right or do or do we want to let people that don't want to be on the planet. Choose to live in a completely different. I them were doing not never seen in media coverage about that thing. Let it roll. What does that mean? They're saying that everyone is going to have the virus anyways and so isn't it better to build up? Antibodies in the eighty percent of the society that will not be affected by it. But but we're taking this other way round where the medical profession is in charge of our society. Now I think that's the weird part on the weird part is if eighty percent are going to get it like why I mean. Listen I if you if you get nothing like you have it right now. I'm convinced that you can years song. Scientists symptoms. I believe my friend. Josh added a few weeks ago. He was in Seattle. Your Kirkland Washington. It's everywhere and people are having it and you're building up in there trying to learn about the only way they're gonNA learn about it and people get it right. The funny thing to me is how similar symptoms are terror when withdrawal this terrible chill this kind of unknowing how long it will take for you to feel better this fear around it. I think it's got a lot of similarities I dunno. Sodas Sodas the flu. I mean I had two years ago. Whatever you WANNA call it. I almost died from that so I was I was going in and out of the -mergency room is going back and forth. I couldn't read a really. There was one night where I I stayed away from family. Eight mile off. It's on the couch in my office cuts. I did WANNA find out. Get everyone sick. I thought it was going to dial it right right so I understand what people are feeling douse of the common flu. That was so strong that hit two years ago right and I mean you just had the flu a few weeks ago when you were on the last time and I was thinking about it like how many dopey memorabilia that was very. I mean the flu was supposed to be like hitting crazy hard this year and nobody knows what the fuck this is anyway. I mean I think everybody has a running for sure totally I would. Certainly I was serving people on Friday at Wellsfargo. Suppressing coughs trying to wipe my nose with my sleeve. It was an ugly doctors. You WanNa be on lately. Jus been super busy. I feel like I'm going to die from this thing. You can die from common slu. I mean this whole but see some hill about this thing. That's going on. It's forcing our society to think about mortality. It's just a dumb. Most Americans think about the fact that they're gonNa die all junkies you. I was told I was GONNA die every day from nineteen eighty six nineteen ninety nine totally now every day. If you do you keep using. You'RE GONNA DIE. You'RE GONNA die. I'm not going to your funeral. Global so we're forest as attics to think about our mortality and think about how fragile life is guy any day any fucking day. You could die right. That's average Americans inkling. No I mean that's why I think like a junkie. That's interesting. How what's the scene like? What's the scene amongst the junkies? How many people are like I want to use before I die. How many people are like I want to get my shit together when this thing goes down like. What's what's the wall. Street's people nervous dealt is going to dry up because that's what happened in the past kind of crises in Los Angeles during the using during the Rodney King riots and then I was using joined the northridge quake so dope drives right right now. They shut down the borders between Mexico in America and Canada America. So that's the mules aren't going to be able to get a job in southern California what they do sled Flood people coming through. And then you know you have ten people holding it and only to get caught you at eight by eight towns through. So That's shutting down the borders so the the dope in Los Angeles and Orange County and San Diego Victorville in Las Vegas going dry up so addicts are gonNA be dope sick. And what are you waiting for? Seas- for see people running to treatment. Gene people running and I think they're gonNA frighteningly turn to federal right and then you can have a second right right. So it's funny to friends of mine Live concert from the World Trade Center and and when nine eleven happened you know the end? They worked in restaurants in downtown there and so they and they were kind of two guys and so they you know that life. You've lives out like you probably know maybe so so One of them came out the leaving. Your child I played nine eleven. Two thousand two or something to gun three and I'm came there and I said what's the Unity Look? Great News Dress Us like eight to nine eleven one of the greatest things that happened to me so he all this disability money. She got relocation money because it's part of building was uninhabitable right right three months after we had that conversation outside the living room on the lower east side right there cats Dali he died of a drug overdose so so it is actually nine eleven. Killed him a rebound shy and that could happen and that could happen with them with this money that the government is sending the same exact story. That's interesting and and what's going on Allah like what's The vibe our people. Everybody's pulling together. It's really good by saying like the clients. Don't WANNA leave. 'cause you're leaving into this uncertain. Where do you know how we have is or at least Chris certainly did? It's like coon now. Of course I can never never land shuttle so the people that are there are liking it. Some someone owned to their families but I- ABSA point out like Jacek Disease. What you really want leads for. Your family wants to stay here. They'RE COOL. They're telling you they're cool or you. WanNa go with your family. It really wanted to go to dope and you have that conversation ten times a day with these kids these adults. I have a couple of times a day now. I know that conversation. I think the really interesting thing to me is how much as addicts we crave this kind of apocalyptic circumstance that when it happens. It's almost like this thing that we were hoping for the whole time. Anyway point about my friend. Libya I only junkies would see nine. Eleven is an opportunity yet. I swear to God this is one of the gracing. Zimmer up yeah I know that's not what you hear from the average New Yorkers still to this day now I know I was there. I was there on nine eleven and and I was on Methadone at nine eleven. I scored dope on nine eleven but I went to treatment within like a month of listeners. Up in New York after nine eleven I might have I. I went to Florida within the month and I don't even know what happened. You know what I mean. I took off Right so that's coming so I I don't know what the teacher Rehab about Certainly considering all options like but what. We're concerned about his staff getting sick and not being able to come in because our licenses people have to be in these positions twenty four hours a day and what if we get to a point where a lot of people compromised immune systems for job. Some people that work in Chicago with compromising Working from home doing telemedicine and stuff and once the virus really hits and people start to get sick and they can't go to work for fourteen days there quarantine because of the exposure like we could get to a point where we don't have enough staff to stay how three pulleys fully-functioning. Exactly what do you do? What's the plan? Once they contingency plan is just keep the detoxing it open. Keep the focus on I think. What are people looking for an guests for time? They're looking for medical stabilization by several. Outpacing slow probably appealed backs on but will be open. The detox is going to be open. avenue both agreed. Even if we have to go there and do an overnight shift until you get it you know what I mean and it's GonNa be like a rotation but that's why the exposure all at the same time it's better than some people got it. And then they'll quarantine the other people get it the ability to keep everyone employed keep everyone who wants to seek treatment to be able to have a full ninety day right right well. What about the detox in Residential Service Be Open no matter. Well I'm happy. I'm happy that you're okay. I know that we're all going to get this thing. If I don't already going to talk about how the fact that two children lyles drive me nuts. I WANNA I want to go somewhere with. How are you dealing with that? How are you dealing with it? I use I use the television more than I should. My my wife hates that I let I make the big one homer become occupied shit. Elba's she wanted to tell stories and dance and go outside. All we did. We are we did. We did a trail hiking trail. We did a bunch of walks. But I feel shitty now and I don't really feel up for all that and I think playing with a baby when you have flu like symptoms is like one of the worst things you could ever do when you get sick and my baby is fucking twenty two months. You know it's like it's torture playing with the baby when you're sick so so God bless sesame street and curious George all that shit although goals since she watching the wiggles wiggles. Now we haven't gone to the wiggles yet. Thank God but let's talk about children's television to give everyone a light hearted thing. What do you loud? How do dopey Dave Probably know more about children's television than any junkies in the world I- goals I like impaired so good because the accents are so good I loved league. We watch it all the time now sits into the monkeys watching the old monkeys television show. So that's fortunate Nora my older one loves the Simpsons. And she'll watch she begs me to put on the simpsons so that's always likes the really bad when the cuts South Park Clark. Would you like to your tenure? Watch South Park. I don't know at this point I would. I let her watch billy on the street which is like a lot of cursing a lot of bleeped cursing and I laugh my ass off watching watching because she looks at me like I'm not supposed someone like jokes. All kinds of crazy jokes very sophisticated head. I don't think he really knows what the lie I'm hoping he doesn't he's Tam. Yeah Yeah I think it goes over my ten year old Ted. I hope it gets crazy dancing. I think that's the final question. Are we the worst parents in the world? Nine year olds watch job market. Which you're good man. Thank you for coming in. It's always a pleasure. Always love to hear the insight of the of the great wbob forest and dude stay healthy. Get BETTER YOU'RE GONNA be fine. Thanks bye always good to hear from Bob during a crisis but thanks you have Corona Bob does dating for you definitely. Imbaba has kids at home little kids and he is dealing with what we're dealing with. And Bob like goes to Disneyland with his kids like fucking every week. Lucky have everything is closed now. So He's dealing with. Where's my life and I think you know. Now it's time to just hear from different people. There's this dude in England and he calls himself the secret drug addict. He actually used to work with this band. Oasis this band that band. Have you heard of it? Do you like oasis. You do. I'm asking if I like away says I'm asking of you do I feel like I'm supposed to like oasis. So you don't like. I like to song which songs wonderwall and St- The Supernova Champagne supernova pain been like that so I think you lay ampaign Supernova Champagne Supernova. I what I do really like wonderwall. Don't look back in anger. Yes I like that. Maybe like three songs. Yeah me too but I think they're incredibly annoying. Why there everything about them? I Love Them. I really don't okay. I recommend watching this movie. A wasted supersonic. It's an amazing documentary. I totally recommend it and here. You think that you don't think that the two of them are entertaining like their whole thing. I Love Them. I love the wire you so in love with them because the do the older brother Knoll Lam Nam and Norway knows the older brother and no like was a Rhody for some English fucking. You know all bands like in spiral carpets and all these dumb English bands and he wanted to be a rock star and he went on the road with when he came back. Liam was in a band with basically and knoll came back from touring with his other band and basically gave Liam. And this guy think it's called big head or something was his name and he gives them the songs and then all of a sudden they fucking oasis. It was like the most perfect marriage of talent that coalesced into these perfect pop rock songs. Also there obviously totally influenced by the Beatles and I love the Beatles really appreciate the words of wonder while I do you find them to be very meaningful. Do today is going to be the day that they're gonNA throw it back to you about the current virus. Now what's wrong with you? What about Champagne Supernova? The thing I always liked about Champagne Supernova is it's someday you will find me cop and eat the landslide of a Champagne. Supernova in the sky which always sounds like champagne sipping over or spilling over. That's what I was on drugs when the name out. What's wrong with you? I think you should go to bed. I think I think Linda's done for the night I wanted to about. And what wonderwall means you love wonderwall. It's a great song. I but you love this band so i WanNa know what that song means to you because you really like the span. I get fun. That's all comes on the radio. I'm going to turn it up. But you're like really into it. And I like it. Because they represented listen. Ultimately they were rowdy they're twins twin brothers or whatever. I like that. They had the Beatles haircut. I like how they looked and I liked that. They had a moment where they were almost like a new band. That was like the Beatles. They didn't pull it very quick moment. They fell apart and everything went to Shit. They're also greet drug addicts. And that's where that's what I think. It really comes down to a drug because I don't think if they didn't have a drug problem I don't think he would have cared as much. Honestly I feel exactly the same way your prejudice towards musicians with drug problem. I like English bands that yeah but also they have a couple of great songs three and they had three great songs actually. I don't even think they had three grades songs. They named three honestly. I don't want to hear Wall Champagne Supernova and I don't think Champagne Supernova is that good. It's song annoys me I love. Don't look back in anger though. I love that I like the car. I like that song more than wonderful. It goes slip inside the eye of an accident. You know you want a better player. I you know I think we should do. We WanNA do song. Don't look back in anger. You do do you really do. I actually really like that song. I forgot how much I like that. And it home all right job in Asia and this is the corona virus special. So like I'm going to do don't look back in anger and this episode is going to go pretty long. We have a bunch of calls coming up so far can deal with it right. The Corona virus special. This is don't look back in anger inside the eye of your mind. I don't you know you might fun. Him better place to play. You said you've never been on news it's UC slowly fade away. So it's not a revolution from you said the brains I had went to my step outside the summertimes span side five laid off your face gone. My heart can way no also away. Banging is heard. It wasn't the current virus. I never would have done that. That was just because of the corona virus. Anyway this coming up. Is this dude who calls himself secret drug addict. He used to work with the way says and here. He is coming from London. So this corona virus. It's fucking everything up but there is a positive which is members of the dopey nation are coming together from across the globe. I have on the phone right now. Somebody I've been talking to for years. I WANNA say to secret drug addicts straight out of London. How you doing? I'm very well you goods. I'm I'm sick man. I WANNA virus. I'M GONNA find out disease. I might have the disease. I'm GonNa find out tomorrow morning. I got tested yesterday. So I'm going to find out tomorrow morning and I'll let you now. How's everything in London? What's going on out. There is the EASEL too bad. It's still laughs going on lots of nine. Lots of people still arrested in over toilet row and pastor and starts which is a snot great. Solve the worst of humanity e fighting over two hundred. And you take the kids out of school here. We took him out last week. As soon as premier league soccer shutdown I kind of our our government is basically not too dissimilar to yours. Both our countries are Kinda clowns. So we've been kind of getting lots of confusing messages and opinions on what you shouldn't shouldn't do. It was encouraged to keep going about our daily lives and that we would need to the best thing to do would be herd immunity where we basically all get it right and they were like. Oh actually no. That won't work. That will kill two hundred thousand people or something so they just just go by daily business but states who me is away from each other and then one of the managers on the soccer manages Koi and the Premier League shut down for twenty four hours and that there's a lot of money involved in again the same the NBA and the the Nhl of done the same thing and you you kind of realize these people are willing to shut down. It's quite serious so I started school last Friday now for a week. Yeah I mean I think I find that it's harder to be sick at home with children and then like kicking dove warlike staying clean or anything I feel like little children sobriety and no school might be the worst combination of anything completely. I'm saying like being home with your children. Might just be the worst thing in the world. H Tell me about tell me about it. Drive you mad constantly. I mean the questions. The constant question must be answered about you know Thousand Questions Day and and are you at work or they suspend work. What are they doing with your job? Nah Nah I do work from home anyway. So I'M INDOORS. So this is kind of medicine are often employed obsessions and all the other stuff. I kind of have in and around worked. I enjoy the work from home now as well so I mean there is an upside to like. I'm spending a lot more time. Can you hear me with me? Sounds like terrible winds in London. It's crazy man. Like the whole thing is crazy that the world shuts down. It seems like what's the addict seen like out there. Like you go to twelve step meetings. Usually right the blackhawks completely. What's the scene like the addicts? Seen like I mean I'm just you know what I mean. I'm standing up to judge punchy costs and crooked a moment the mystery so he's doing business is booming. I suppose I mean I'd I'd I tend to kind of talk to them so I'm not really. I'm not too familiar with they. Are you know they're working? I'm not sure if their prices have gone up. I'm not sure if at some point soon I would imagine be knows this as an issue with the drug supply. The people can stop hiding drugs. We've all sorts of fucking match it. Now that's a concern. I suppose right to stretch out of here. Yeah exactly a million per in all sorts of other just shitting remains yes. That's I mean. That's a real possibility. I assume me is still going on there. Slowing down the. I'd call see there being any actual face to face me in public from the beginning of next week they've been saw last week. We consume I lost weight. They've kind of been slowing down and they're trying to move online now and do soup and staff which is which is great. If you've got access to a computer is you've got access to the if you have then you know you're going to struggle up in I mean. Luckily I'm coming up to thirteen years. Now amazing thank you and you got some time as well as people like us you know. We got support networks. We've got files phone numbers. We've got years of relationships in the bank. Were people saw support networks over the shooting. We're going to be quite good but if you just imagined you ally two weeks played and you began me in July six weeks and suddenly. There's no is now and you haven't got burn fire. You've got no no no way of accessing online. It's going to be tough man. Tough for people really tough. I mean I you know as much as you know the steps and having the fucking spiritual experience and all that Kinda Shit was was was very important in my recovery. It was the kind of human connection it was hanging out with people. It was not not allowed. I made the. I'd be enough wars. I was doing to three meetings a day and in between now I would not be at home. Dot says desperate to gal consists still so now. When you kind of learn all you can stay in your house on your own for weeks. Possibly months is fucking task. It's true although it does take all the fancy of all these addicts because it's like all of us. Have these sort of apocalyptic fantasies. And now it's all of our apocalyptic fantasies are coming true. Yeah Yeah there is. I mean I was always telling self-isolation the Sasaki in total. I've been doing that for years. And it's like yeah but you want and you fall down and you were not doing drugs and you didn't have fucking hits to not. I mean you kind of throw that Nice not so easy so it's not so easy about drugs right. I get bored very quickly. Now right absolutely absolutely thank God for television and whatever but since this is dopey and you are a drug addict you want to tell a quick story to entertain the people around the world who are struggling Gordon. Yeah especially come. Dopey Navato P. Story can. Yes I suppose. Stories involve wine kin or sex with drugs. Carnival does so we was on hold until everyone knows working voices on slow in two thousand five I think and drug addiction gang clean in two thousand seven so this is kind of towards the end of it and it was kind of really bad and it was less than more fucking problems. We were Syrian Europe to a half food. It's four and I was in Madrid and who started the drugs of turned up side doing drugs on the Xiao hanging out backstage more drugs. And then whoring mostly Coke and staff coach. A coke loads of volume owes big fighter. Volume is the volume going out on it and it was likely to it with coke. It gives you this kind of weird buzz. His life is a bit. Like if you do a whole tranquilize I came in and coke. It kinda spins you out on. This weird's it. Which in this weird space but those huge dose is gone now sleep shoes couldn't I could. I could leave the house about weeds. So yes odd man. That's that's taken that we've got a house a Hash and didn't know core skunk or something talk as well so yeah so we're at here and then everything can start winding down because we've got charting survey Paris somewhere next day. I'm not sure we met this guy. This guy he was he was not Spanish. I think he was from the north of England. He was out there working on the stock in Spanish Stock Exchange or something. We've ended up back at his place and also a friend of mine. Who is a really was used to tighten it was a WBU boxes at wbz belt. Hold you help. Dispel British box in union champion boxer. And so this guy slammed asked me to just sitting there just shoveling modes coke up on those talking politics and this guy kind of fines l. Box you've got home and they punch out punch harder than you save. Ended up in. It's weird macho kind of competition where they're taking the intensive punch each other in the stomach. I see is like fucking bizarre? But my Powell soft. I mess around. So he's not pulling conscious and so he punched in because punching wanting to do so much coat guard could could feed it and makes punched the guy and he's broke three of his ribs cry and then he's had I think I think he appears something in there whether or not had sort of fucking ambulance for the guy so an ambulance comes and takes them away from his own house and leaves us in the House. You know coconut so we carry. We carry on talking. We got traveling about three hours. Need to get back to the hotel so for my headphones in L. And I saw this girl awards me I just Kinda Guy for the phase. It's almost like you know what I'm GonNa stopped sleeping with foster. Choose our hands how I do it too much. It's not good. It's not a good look for him. I appreciate that this is not good. Luck this Gal. Positive consensus couldn't hear it and I favorite voice kind of go in. Don't stop. Just keep walking. Keep walking and school to school and you don't doubt just. Are You fucking end up headline that? Here's an so I'm just I'm stopped on sort of spun round and said I and she was opposed to and I'm not quite sure what ended up packing his crack. House with our. We started yelling and nothing for so I ended up paying the same amount of money for four secs. So everyone's seventy euro something to watch. We have while I do drugs and and it was kind of like this is shocked. Sure we know what what what what really how I ended up in a crack house. Wanking masturbate to some young girl who was clearly horrified. This kind of slightly pudgy. Thirty year old man sweat in trying to maintain direction. But at least you stuck to your guns and you didn't fuck the process so I`Ma go off morals dude. I'm so happy if nothing else in this pandemic to hear your beautiful accent on the phone with us I appreciate the call and I think that this natural. We should look at this thing as it's a way for addicts to get in touch. Everyone stay at home and stay safe right. I'm wash your hands. Wash your fucking hands. And if you're the prostitute don't fuck or but pairs so you can Wayne Golf in front of her. I haven't actually. I have a similar story but I can't tell it yet. I suppose because I'll get in trouble if lights out sending me on twitter. Yes Sir yes Sir. Good to hear and see for yourself you too man. Thank you have a government speak soon. Bye Bye Right. So there's the secret drug addict. I've been communicating with him on twitter for a long time. What did you think about his masturbating with prostitutes and crack story land? Dave I think you should tell your story. My story is very embarrassing. Yes it is and it should be but I think it's funny and you should tell it all right. Well I had. It's very embarrassing story. It's so embarrassing for you blow. She told it anyway. She should tell well. I hadn't had sex in a long long time. It was before you and I had reunited long. Had it been? It'd been years like how many like the I'm like Sally Jesse Rafael. I'm going to say that when like five years that I that I hadn't had sex. I was totally addicted. We're using in your defense though you were using drugs when you're using heavy drugs you're not have those same sexual urges where. I was on a huge dose of Methadone on a huge dose of Benzodiazepines. So now you're sober so you're probably incredibly horny. Yes and I came home and I was actually living. My Parents House and my parents were upstate. And I decided that I was going to get a prostitute because I wanted to have sex and I had been so out of practice money. This is two thousand and eight. So this is what like twelve years ago years ago where you go online right as I ask. He told me he has told me this story and I was like. Where did you go like Greg's last Internet? I think I went on craigslist or I went on like I just think I googled escorts and this big spreadsheet of prostitutes came up and I share Sassy Lady I picked this woman. Chilly it exactly like you and And she came. Linda name was Linda and she came to the apartment was me it. Wasn't you issues like Russian and choose much smaller than smaller than you? She was like short anyway. And what you like. Take it easy listening right now. Maybe we not talking about this. I might get. I know I know you the search so she came over and she's like it's going to cost you three hundred fifty bucks down and come over and I said all right so I gave her three hundred and fifty bucks. I don't think I want to tell the story stop. You can't stop now so I gave her three hundred and fifty bucks and she tells me that if I want to have sex with I need to give her another three hundred dollars and I wasn't about to pay this woman. Six hundred and fifty dollars to have sex with her so. I told her to lay next to me and rubbed like give me a massage and I'll masturbate and she laid next to me and I think she liked touched. My shoulder like you're like. Oh my God I masturbated and I came and she left and that was my story. That was the only time I've ever paid for sex and I didn't even get sex when you think of that story. It's pretty incredible that that was enough to get you off but I guess it's been. It was a while for you. It had been a long time. It was very thrilling. Very sad story. Thank you for thank you for shaming me to tell this story but I've always wanted to tell the story on dopey. I think it's a good story. You do so. What happened was awkward when I was annoyed because choose a professional now. I feel awkward. Does she's like who cares. Remember my money I gotta go no it was. It was annoying because I was prepared to have sex with the prostitute and I was too cheap to have sex with the prostitute. You think you could have actually done that. I don't know when we'll never know. Thank God you couldn't because I would have been so gross. Well it never happened so glad good. We may not. Can You? Please sit on the Mike. We may not have what. I'm just glad that this is the outcome. Personally I'm glad that you didn't have sex with a Russian prostitute. I'm glad she just touched her shoulder. Feel much better. I think it would have cost more money if she had touched. Grab your shoulder. Sometimes you get really excited. It explains a lot anyway. I think before we go. I would like to hear. We heard from a lot of members. And the DOPEY nation. Are you excited to hear from them before we go? Yes absolutely. What'S UP DEBBIE NATION. This is Leeann from North Carolina with a quarantine update largely. My Life. Looks pretty much the same as it did? Prior to the quarantine. Apparently I live in incredibly socially distanced. Life You may call me a hermit. I work from home. I go out to the farm. That's it but my heart goes out to those of you that are feeling Squirrelly or struggling to get to meetings or feel socially isolated make use of the technology that we have love you guys stay strong and tutorials dopey nation. This is much Lonnie from Sydney Australia. Living UNITED ON MY K. I have enough toilet piper hand sanitizer novice applause but not too much. Because I'm not a hold up because I care about playing pool. Washing my hands voluntarily self clothing chain. And if I have my high I practice such distancing I- nice some of you are not doing so well in my family financially so soon you my faults in praise and positive vibes. Stay strong and tools for Chris. Hey guys what's up? It's Amy Dresner from my fair. Jonky just given a check into peeps at At the doping nation. This is a tough time. Let's stick together. Make those phone calls. And those messages do those online meetings Isolation GNARLY does your head in financial fears fucking rear. You don't fucking spin anyone's you know it'd be nice. Your roommate stay strong. Dopey nation by Dave W nations. Justin was Saif in the womb to Holden's yourselves. Quick simple effective stay strong suit for Chris. Hey Dave and dopey nation. It's colleen wanted to stay high from quarantine land of St Louis Missouri. I returned from Mexico February fifth. We started getting sick about ten days later. My kids and I- magical this I was in a dopey nation group got together and did zoom meeting online and literally right afterwards. I got a message from Dr Functional. Doctor I've been trying to get a hold of for a while. And she got me a test within an hour and a half. I had to drive your house to do it and actually had to like actually drive to her office in fellow car to her house. It was legit like a drug deal hilarious. But I'm tested now. And we have a plan. She got some new medication and breathing treatments and lots of net flicks. We need all the ideas for shows. And a yeah. My kids are out of school and I don't know what I'm doing. I'm just winging it. I hope everyone is awesome. Love everybody and Dobie nation and tutorials for Chris by hang in there. What'S UP Dave? And there'll be nation. This is Matt Meyer Carol over. Everybody's safe there current-account twenty twenty is in full swing here in Iowa. Madam Governor has ordered all restaurants closed except for takeout only groups of more than three people around. And I'm doing good I stocked up on sale. Got a carton might buy another carton We live out in the country so I think we'll be all right just about two dirt bikes the week so if they shut everything down for two weeks lots of two stroke fun proper grab on Dobie nation and fucking toodle for Chris. Hey dopey it's teams from Philly. Were recording live from my recovery house in Kensington? With all my girls. And so what do you guys think about being in? Quarantine Kensington inner covering Boring Boring Shit. But if you saw I need to stock up on snacks now I think's chew things that's important that you need to know a that. We're in Kensington. I literally commit any crime. No consequence whatsoever. So that's how it is to be in Kensington Quarantine so stay strong. Thanks tutorials heave. Hey dobie nation. It's Julie from Seattle. I'm quarantined can't go to work. Can't go out. My son is learning to play the drums. So I have heard an awful lot of Motley crue up in here. I've eaten all my snacks and I am pretty sure that by the time this is all said and done. I am going to gain the covert nineteen hope. Everybody staying strong and fucking Turtles Chris. What's up dopey nation? This is Jide from Church and other drugs checking in from Lafayette Louisiana A we. I think we started this whole thing with Mardi Gras so my bad my bad. We're hunkering down. I was I was worried before it was cool so me and my wife bought supplies like four weeks ago. So we're good to go but everyone stay safe out there This is not the time to go. Try to get some dope. Just use it as a stay at home and detox. You know what I'm saying. Turn on some Barry. Manilow eats tomato soup. And you'll get through this toodle `Hadopi nation. Hey Dave it's Paulina. Coming at. You quarantined in Costa Mesa California So far I think I'm healthy. I hope so. We'll see I heard we're all supposed to get it. God knows what's going to happen but I love you. All everyone stay put stay connected and most importantly stay strong. Dopey nation and fucking toodle for Chris. So that was our corona virus special. And I have to say It was a joy to have you with me did have fun. I did efan especially in the oasis jam. That was your favorite part. That's my favorite part was amber your favorite part. I love Amber Khaldun in but I really liked the best about the Qatar. I love it. When I hear these people around the world saying stay strong dopey nation and fucking yes and everyone sounds good. Sounds hopeful and you know. No one sound not not to say that. We shouldn't be worried or concerned or you know but everyone seems like they have an optimistic outlook on things and I think that's that was helpful for me to hear. I love this community. I love that. The dopey nation the international dopey nation is strong. Anybody that wishes they were in the episode. Sending a voicemail. Can I say something please? I think because this is an addiction center podcast right. I mean that's kind of the the basis when something like the corona virus happens I think Dave is. I WANNA say you're unsure but you don't want you don't want to be you don't want to just focus on that but I think it's so it's all that we're talking about the only thing on the news it's like so part of it is like we don't WanNa talk about on the podcast because you wanNA break but at the same time you feel like we to like. It's hard to find the balance of should. How much should it be focused on? How much should it go to recovery and We're in such a fucking crisis right now. I think this was an interesting episode. I think it was. I think you you did a nice balance. I guess is what? I'm trying to save very long winded. Sorry what I like about. All of it is that I mean I can find parallels between addiction and recovery in the corona virus very easily. I can't how do you do that? Because when you're kicking dope time how ups you don't work you don't go anywhere Sierra. Here's your your speaking like. That obvious thing. I bet you do a lot of the audience. It is a good point. And I think the apocalyptic nature. I think when. You don't have to go to work like when whenever I've kicked obe. I didn't have a job so I didn't have to go anywhere. And it was this long term. You didn't know what tomorrow had in store. You didn't want to leave the house. So part of this whole thing reminds me of that and and also like because I actually have the corona virus if feels like heroin now but but that's but so. Let's just take a moment and talk about that? There's a part of what's going on for you and your life. That almost reminds you of one life sort of stops. And you're just sort of trapped in your house and you don't really have a job. Don't go anywhere as actors saying like you're actually feeling like you from feels familiar to you. Totally a giant understand totally feels familiar. This experience is so much like being on drugs or just getting off drugs. Were there are no expectations? And you're just kind of treading water until the next thing and that's what this reminds me and if you guys agree with that send in an email to Dobie podcast at g mail DOT COM. I WanNa play you one thing before we stop. I was going to start the episode with it but I'll end it and it has nothing to do with any of this stuff. It's a total non sequitur. Recently I get emails from people all the time and I got an email from somebody who said they were listening to this. All dopey episode. When Chris was alive it was actually the only time Chris was ever in this house. And you were. You were in the apartment. Immune Christopher recording on the floor and we were finishing up the episode and talking about Doing Dopey ads and I. It's like one of my favorite all time. Dopey memories and I'm GonNa play it now before we're not new hair all right cool. It should retail for the next time or just Dave and I met at this place called Mount. This place called Mount Inside and they might do ads with us. Dave had a call with the marketing fucking people and they wanted to you know. Examples of ads and dollar air examples suck and they're very business oriented but if we had more followers well. How'd you social tell you were there? You handled it. I didn't do. It was just so unappealing. It was so bad such a terrible call. You handle it bad. They're professional or their their suits. I don't know why I'm talking about this at all can get out of the world but you need fifty bugs semi some cookies. Well fuck it talk about off. Oh you're working. Oh my God. I don't really know how to integrate a partnership somebody ask for examples of ads right and so. I like listening to our laws episode re talked about the I am sober apper couple episodes before listening to that. And I'm like it's like you can calculate how much money you saved Dr Dave's like I don't believe it. He's is ever used Kintu Zoo. That kids count your days then too. We do every with every ad you like. Take this attempt at the AD. I get upset people pleasing for the advertising when really all you're doing is actually advertising. You can listen to that all day. The listener was like I'm listening to that over and over again just to make her feel better. Dude feel better or whatever so I hope you guys are Ok in this corona virus fucking. Wash your hands. Avoid people stay home? Stay healthy stay safe. I mean if you're getting drugs you'd better have a lot of fucking money or you're going to run out right. Yeah Anyway Ms Chris. Obviously Miss Todd Miss. All of our friends who didn't get to stick around and stay strong fucking. Dope fucking tools for Chris and everyone knows good. WanNa take a shot. John want to leave uh-huh.

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Navigating the Corona Economy (Part 1) | Practical Steps You Can Take to Thrive During the Corona Economy

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Navigating the Corona Economy (Part 1) | Practical Steps You Can Take to Thrive During the Corona Economy

"This afternoon we're announcing new guidelines for every American to follow over the next fifteen days as we combat the virus each and every one of us has a critical role to play in stopping the spread and transmission of the virus. Emma Society were We see so much distance already now. We physically distant and a world where there is so much loneliness now facing Self quarantine isolation president trump holding a lengthy news conference with an update on where we are with the fight against corona virus. The government essentially Publishing a set of new guidelines many have already been surpassed by some things that we've seen on the state and local level. Perhaps the only major difference is A now a suggestion that people not gather in groups larger than ten and that certainly consistent again with some other things we've seen happening around the country as the president was talking. The market was in a free fall. The Dow losing Down almost three thousand point I missed the percentage of about thirteen percent a loss. There's SNP down free twenty four. So I wouldn't transfer you my energy. I wouldn't transfer Mike. Panama here is my God. Emma on you have a great our garbage man on today's show we talk about navigating corona economy. How do you succeed in a world filled with fear? How do you persevere in a world where most people believe that tomorrow is going to be worse than today on today's show we talk about the importance of faith the importance of believing that you can succeed and we are going to supply you with that encouragement that you need to succeed and lead in this world of the Corona virus? My first thing we have to nameless unreasoning unjustified para paralyzes needed interrupt band. I'm shows don't need a celebrity narrator to introduce this show this show us two men. Eight kids co created by two different women thirteen multimillion dollar businesses ladies and Gentlemen. Welcome to thrive time. Shaw Yes yes yes yes. I'm thinking of a song right now and it goes like this dude. Doo Doo Doo. Doo Doo Doo. Doo Doo Doo. My Corona do do do do do do do my corona too soon but to to relevant so the show we're doing today is about fighting fear false evidence appearing real and so. I'm going to start off with some facts and we have Paul on the show. He's a CPA. I'm GonNa give some facts. We've got Josh within water on the show here. I'm just GonNa give some facts and as you did studying mathematics in college as well as becoming an optometrist or my correct. That is correct. We have a bachelor's of science in the art of mathematics what I'm Gonna I'm GonNa read off every fact what's going to happen is if you disagree with the fact. That's fine and you could say that's not a fact that's fine. How political debate should be. But they're not and then we're going to toss it over for Paul Hood to give us a hot take on. We have a lot of fun with this. Josh can chime with a hot takes real right now at America today according to the US census. I put a link on the show notes. Three hundred and twenty nine million Americans. Do you agree with that? Perceived fact doctors. Yes that's close enough for hand grenades and horseshoes to count. I'm not exactly the number but China has one point three eight nine billion people. Does that sound accurate to you? Sir. Yes and they have a lot more rice to pets now. In one thousand nine hundred the life expectancy of the average American was forty. Six point. Three years in age do agree with that. Wow where'd you get that back from all of these things? I'm citing all of these things on the show notes this comes from the Census Dot. Gov this I do then I will agree with that. Okay now in. Nineteen ninety nine. The West Nile virus Paul Hood. Do you remember the West Nile virus? I remember the name. But it's in the past. So I have no recollection maybe truthfulness then but the the West Nile virus is an infectious disease that first appeared in the United States in one thousand nine hundred nine and the infectious. Mosquitoes spread the virus that caused it and I remember very well. When was in high school? It was a panicky situation. Do you remember the stuff I do I do I do? People were panicking about this since mosquitoes loved me so much I. I heard that the average risk for catching West Nile. They love your body now. Nine hundred ninety nine through two thousand Paul. Do you remember Y Two k? I remember y two K Josh. Do you remember Y Two k? Yeah I was in the military in Vegas during Y2k and it was pandemonium on the Strip. Is that a boy band. While I'm trying to think Y two K. That boy band was an early boy band than ever really quite got off. The there was rumors of. It's contagious. Nece but it did not okay. Y. Two K. It was a shorthand term for the year twenty for the year. Two thousand commonly used to refer to a widespread computer programming shortcut. That was expected to cause havoc as this year. Change from ninety nine to two thousand and it did not. Do you remember when people were panicked about it? Yes and people very close to me. I won't name. Names are very close to me. Were STOCKPILING BOTTLED WATER. Beans and other sundries in the garage and just shaking my head going. Are you absolutely cray? Cray? Now I'm going to fire through a lot of facts and open it up for discussion here. Okay so September eleventh day that will forever live in infamy. We all know that. Two thousand nine hundred and ninety seven people lost their lives. We all know that ten billion dollars of infrastructure was damaged. We all know people who freaked out and thought he was the end of the World Two Thousand Eleven September twenty seven. He do you remember that. Yes I do remember where I was. You remember where you were actually on a cruise I was on Alaska. Cruise is a Tuesday morning and I didn't have many channels on the TV on the cruise ship. I remember waking up in the morning rolling over and seeing that second building get hit and think wow are. We are country's under attack State University in two thousand and one September eleventh and they stopped classes to watch. The thing happened and we saw the second tower collapsed. We saw the actually. We saw the plane hit the tower on TV. Then two thousand and one that same year we had the anthrax scare right. I remember that you could package. Two Thousand and two at the SARS scare So far does anybody to refute any of these things. I mean Josh. So far. Do refute any of these accountable as fact thus far. Sir Paul with CPA's you're an accountant. You're very accurate man. Do you refute anything. I'm saying so I I totally agree it. All fact checks and what they one thing I have to. Yes I have to point out that I really want to. I don't WanNA spend a lot of time on sure but the idea that Josh would be on the Strip for Y2K pandemonium. Is there any time? You're on the Strip in Las Vegas. It's pandemonium I know this was I mean I mean. Super doctors owner ten seconds of life that look people dislike running around stealing chips shooting each other up through the foul was right in front of the MGM. Gentlemen Okay and climbed up the stoplight. And he climbed up there and he's up there and he's counted down ten nine. No way loses his balance at like six caught him. Nobody spread like. Oh No. That's that's serious dead serious downer. That's what is so we move on. We left we did two thousand and two SARS remember this all Yasser were worried about this respiratory infection. Two thousand ten H One n one. Do you remember this Paul. H One in one do swine. Flu does wine flu wine flying in fact. I have gathered here. I gather the facts from the CDC the Center for Disease Control they estimate checkout these estimates between forty three million eighty. Nine million people were infected. They believe that's a big range. Forty three million to eighty nine million right of a population of three hundred and thirty million. We know that twelve thousand four hundred sixty nine people died which was thirty. Four people per day at the peak of the swine flu again. Would you agree with these? Yes yes josh. You can see the links on the CDC website. It's accurate tried there. Okay so we're GONNA twenty eighteen. The flu the flu was a thing. Twenty eighteen there was the flu and the flu of two thousand eighteen in most years by the way takes out an average of about one hundred and sixty people a day a day. Sixty one thousand people died of the flu in two thousand eighteen. I've got the links here you can. You see the links. There can see these things. Paul can you see this thing in okay so these are all fax so now twenty eighteen? I've got a link here to CNBC. They showed in two thousand eighteen. Two hundred and fifty thousand people died from accidents in hospitals where somebody hit the buttons. -I oops they said oops go. Hey did you turn that guy's respirator? On oops oops six hundred eighty four people. A day are dying from oaths now. We got to corona virus. Doodoo to to to to do really it's Cova one thousand nine hundred nineteen pood- now so so far as of the time of a recording. Today's show which is going to go out tomorrow. This is March sixteenth. Sixty nine deaths in fifty five days. That's one point two five deaths per day so in two thousand nine hundred how many people died and someone should write these things down how many people died from homicides in twenty nineteen. I know because I'm the fun guy. Three thousand nine hundred and ninety six people died from homicides car wrecks three thousand thirty eight thousand eight hundred people died so heart disease killed six hundred forty seven thousand people from heart disease last year so I have a plan. See I have a plan and then you and Paul and Josh can help me see if this is a good plan you actually missed a very big thing in our lives to HIV. I remember HIV. Almost like you couldn't even look at somebody. There was a period of time when it was like I mean it was. I know early on my gosh. I forget the year on that. That wasn't on your your your what you floetry. Blake played doctrine through things. I try not to focus on at all. So I'm GONNA give you my plan in Paul. You can tell me if you agree with the plan. Take it all in here folks. Here's my plan. Step one we know that. One Thousand Seven Hundred Seventy. Two people died from heart disease sweeney to ban all fast food one hundred sixty seven people die per day from the flow sweeney to ban all events Olivennes. One hundred and four people died in car accident. So let's just ban car back. I had my mic moved further away from you at this point. The point nine people die per day from homicide sweet to band guns and because the corona virus has killed one point two five people per day. We need to just ban everything out so blanket. Paul you've been on the planet longer than I have. What's your take on this because so many people been texting me saying clay? What do we do? What should we do a we are speaking to the London? Lives about a half million people. Seriously what what do you think should be done because right now people? Fear is false. Evidence appearing real fear kills capital fears kill success. Fear Kills Dreams. Hope what's your take on this? Well you know we face this every day and it's in business or marriage or in in raising your kids fear people fear the unknown and my Bible teaches me not to have a spirit of fear and it talks about that that basically we should make decisions today based on the best facts today and not project out tomorrow. That's full of fear and based on what we don't know because what we expect or what we fear is always a thousand times worse than what actually happens So my my deal on. It is just you know. It's it's one of those situations to where people are just being in plain silly. I'm sorry Klay. But they're being silly and they're they're the stock market and all that's going on but the reality is is is Warren Buffett has a saying clay and he says the stock market is a place for the transfer of money between patient and impatient people. And so what's going on right now as people were making rash decisions. They're making decisions based on fear based on emotion instead of what's the value of what's out there and so you know. Warren Buffett Office also says that when other people are greedy be fearful when other people fearful will be greedy in so this is a great opportunity for people but people are gonNA miss. There's just like everything else in life. There's there's going to be winners and there's going to be losers financially but the reality is is people are GonNa get sick with this and from what I read. I'm not a doctor before what I read It you know the occurrences and the the the Bad part of it is dramatically less than the few then the flu and Frankly from what I hear about it. I'd rather have it than the flu and you'd really need toilet paper with the flu but you probably don't with this thing. Now I lead. I lead with the facts. I led with all the facts here. So I'M GONNA GO Z. You're going to get to chime in here. And then Josh. Whatever he says one open. I mean the guy has a very successful optometrist. Me has an auto auction. He he's up. Thomas owns a bank. But he doesn't. He's not a certified expert of the Corona Corona. Says the Josh Own? Don't even though okay does send him. He's like Yoda with with knowledge. So don't underestimate Z. What's your take on the the krona virus and half the listeners out there should be responding to it because again everybody. Ten years ago did not have their own television network called facebook. They didn't have the ability to participate. Twenty four seven. They weren't connected to social media. Eleven point three hours per day. Hold nothing back my friend. I will run for cover. Whenever you see a new strain of the flu you know. What would they do? The flu shot every year. They do it because they know the flu. Influenza more in comes out with different versions of itself every year and so what they do is they kind of see the trend. What's going around the world and they come out with the virus come out with a shot for it and you hope when you get your flu shot that you covered the ones that are coming through the United States this year. Right right right. Everybody in this room's had the flu right. I is that point lights. I mean it was beautiful virus. Have you had throws and you had a virus. Saw probably had probably had when the versions of Corona virus. I mean a lot of times. They'll have a sore throat and be sick for a day or two. It's probably it's not corvette. Nineteen I WANNA I wanna you know. There are different versions of that family of viruses and I scratch my head. I was just wondering today. I've had several people reach out to me and ask me and they go go. Why is this one? So celebrated by the media. Why is this one so kind of lifted up? I mean from October of year to February of this year anywhere from twelve thirty thousand people died of the flu influenza and different strains of that did that one hundred sixty seven people per day right okay. And we don't we don't pull out that strain and go. Oh my gosh social distancing. Wash your hands shut down. Businesses stop all concerts. Eighteen hundred people a day. Die From heart disease. I think we should run around and tell people stop eating. Well I mean that's probably true but to think about it as people have to understand these viruses don't develop to kill people viruses they'll want the dead host. They're actually they don't want to kill you and everyone live so they can spread them around their whole thing is so it's only people that are immuno-compromised. It's only people that are not healthy themselves. That's the come to these viruses. That's why we have so many people die every year. The flu in why is that. I've been an epidemic. That not been talked about for years. Well this is the same the same media though that remember when trump tastic was elected. Many people on the media. We're talking about if you watch the television that we should shut down colleges to allow the students to mourn the loss of a Democratic president right. I mean there's an it's the same media that likes to. I think don't they make money if we all watch Fox and CNN? Isn't that a move? I must be on these things? You've got to follow the money because I'm sitting here going. What what what is this? I mean the economic impact of this pandemic. They're calling it. Which is I don't agree with and and like I saw a little bit of the of the trump's news brief today and you had several doctors on there saying well. If you think we're doing take over reacting and we're probably doing exactly what we need to do and I'm kind of going you know really and they said well the young people and Healthy People. You'll be fine. It's just we don't want you to spread this to the elderly and the sick and I go. It's not the way it is with every flu bug. That comes around here right. I mean ever. I'm sick I immediately run to the nursing homes to spread the good news. That's what I've always done before out of my hands so this is a new thing. I've decided this week. I'm going to do it. I'm going to go into the nursing homes if I feel sick. I'm changing my life. How many people died in the? Us alone last year from the flu from the flu that the best stats I have here for. You would be the fluid self in two thousand. Eighteen killed a total of sixty one thousand ninety nine people hundred sixty seven people per day and the swine flu of twenty two thousand nine when we did not have the social media like we have now and two thousand nine the swine flu infected according to the CDC between forty three point three million in eighty nine point three million people thus killing twelve thousand four hundred sixty nine people or thirty people a day. And so when you think about I mean there's ten people die a day of homicides in the. Us Josh install sprinklers for Olympia Sir. Which is why I lift you up. And I say America. Lind's IT'S ERICA. To you and says you are good installing sprinklers or tell us how your prospects because you're you're a small business owner right. How are you processing this morning? Are you lamenting? Are you hugging on shore flow of water? What's going what are you doing? Well I mean. I know that I'm a big expert on this than Dr Zellner. Sure I mean obviously obviously you processing doing so for us. We're not doing anything different. I don't know if I should say I will say that one. You one loss of life is too many. I will absolutely positively say that point trivialize anything or anything at all and I did have a Monday morning meeting with our team and said. Hey we're GONNA go to work and if that's a problem for anyone please let me know and we will. We will absolutely discuss that in the kindest gentlest beautiful way came we. We went to work and we sold some sprinklers today as rainy so we didn't get any installed but we did go service some and we made some phone calls today. We scheduled some appointments. We we just went to work. Sir Paul I want to get your take on this year. A CPA have thousands of great clients at Hood. Cpa'S DOT COM. That's great new. You're with the numbers you give the accounting filing taxes. They say they say two things. You can count on Paul Death and taxes so talk to us. What's your take on this? How should the business owners out there be reacting from Europe? Take well you know. We're we're there's two sides to everything and there's a the emotional side and then there's the The actual logic involved here but the the bottom line is as as business owners. We have to address both. And so what we're doing is we're literally. I WANNA protect my staff. Because that's those are my workhorses. Those are the people that that I need to protect and and often I need to protect from from clients that are coming in. And so you know. We're doing things like making sure all our staff. Have you know the little antiseptic you know? Hand Rub hand hands. They're wiping off the door handles and the but we're also going further and we're contacting her clients because with this is real or if it's just blown up which it is by the media you are small business clients have to address this and so we're helping them figure out. What do they do? You know if they if they have to send their workers home if they have to You know how do they take advantage of of trump saying that that the for small to mid sized companies will help pay for their time off? You Know How do you take advantage of taking a of of not having to pay the interest on your student loan? So there's there's opportunity and there's there's there's things that we have to do for our clients to teach them to do things but the bottom line is we have to teach our clients how to hunker down and and make it through. You know the things that are going to happen the next eight weeks weather. The media's blown out of proportion for political reasons or whatever which they are We still have to address it. I have a music here. To QUEUE UP Steve Curran's appearance on the threat to show this guy raps Lamborghini with Donald Trump rap. He clearly has no regard for his safety or the safety of others. So let me let me wrap Cova. Nineteen or something on a great idea. Dr Steve What is your. This is your music. I give music to you. Oh what is your take right now how he should be handling this situation. What should we do? I think if there's a time to turn off your notifications for social media today's Day and I think it's so many people are freaking out. It's a really good time. I built my mortgage company in the last recession. That's like when we built it so an eight nine ten eleven twelve whenever everybody was freaking out and jumping off bridges. We were picking up market. You police say the optimistic things. You're saying and more scurry tone. Please let me the listeners. That are trying. We're trying to fear mongering. Talk excited about this. I don't know if I can be fair like I don't know what I'm saying. I don't know if you listen to me. Get on social media. I heard a commercial on sports. Talk my wife and I WANNA get my my my wife on the microwave I can. We're we're on. We're in the vehicle listening to sports. Talk Radio Z. If you heard these sports talk radio commercials. Have you seen these things you know? We're on the road on. We're listening to sports talk radio and it's like I can't remember it was with Fox or ESPN or somebody and they're like attention sports fans we're GONNA make it through this tough time together but the music that was being played. Was this like in times like. Oh yeah tension sports pitching. We'll make it through this time together. Hey a friend of mine the other day and said Dude. There's been no sports on. It's been crazy and today I sat down and there was this lady on my couch. It turns out married her. She's actually pretty cool. Talked for like an hour. Didn't believe him. Oh my core message. I'LL LET Z. One Up me here my core message. I want to share. Today's I think that fear stands for false evidence appearing real and if you look at history. When Britain was being bombed by the Nazis Winston Churchill. The prime minister hopped up on the Mike. And told everybody be calm and carry on. And you can't just hide from life for the next sixty days. I mean the average American Paul according to a Forbes has a study on this they have less than four hundred dollars saved right the average. American is so you're you'RE GONNA hide for ten minutes you gonNa Hide for a week. I mean I mean you got to participate in certain aspects of life in for all that is holy. Stop Hoarding Clay. But Winston Churchill. Didn't have this this horde of fearmongers mongers that are just throwing stuff out every day and then a population that you know. It's kind of like they're sitting on the edge of their seat waiting for the next little bit. But the bottom line is for instance new cells. They get the ratings. When things are bad. You'll Travis Mayer the you know. He's he's popular people. Watch him when they're storms on the horizon. Oh Yeah Tornado. Watch him so that this is what they do and this is what they feed on. And it's it's fear based and it's total BS. Yes we it is it is going on and we do have to be concerned about we. Do you should be washing your hands anyway. Maybe you should elbow bump for a while instead of you know shaking hands instead of making out so I stopped making out over this whole worry this kid. I saw when I walked in a studio. Just stop here yet we longer share a megaphone megaphone things. We're doing very disappointing. Pointing I can media. Listen up everything. Okay I have three action items. Zia No matter what I give the listeners. You Me Wrath today show here. We go here actually. I'm number one but by fifty percent off discounted stock if you can from fundamentally successful companies my wife and I bought a bunch of Carnival stock. Do that why. It's like eighty percent off if you ain't gonNA afforded even if the economy rebounds to half of what it once was that's a great deal by fifty percent discount stock. The companies fundamentally sound as in like. They've been around for a long time right to show cleanliness. Just be. I mean if people are a little bit worried. Don't be the guy coffin in the elevator. He just gets them and sanitizer make a show of it. You know he like Erin getting a go. Oh my God this coronas just killing is communicate confidence with your team. No one wants to work for the boss where they say. Hey boss GonNa be. Okay and you got me. No one wants to work for that boss. Well I'M GONNA kill myself but I don't know what you guys do. You have a big meeting of all your employees. You look at the oldest wooden. Say Well somebody. Here's a high risk. We're probably going to lose somebody. That's fine you're not true it is but you know. Don't quote David Koresh in meeting. Just say once you don't make a bunch of cool. I'm actually stockpiling kool-aid Watch reds staff world. As we know it see what's your final action item for the listeners out. There what are you. What's your advice? I take a deep breath. It's going to be okay. It's viruses sicknesses and damage have been affecting this world for the history of Man. It's going to be okay. You're more likely to be killed by a number of things other than sharks cove. Ed Nine hundred eighteen. Okay let me recount the ways one hundred sixty seven of you will die today from normal flu hundred and four people died at different car accidents. I mean think about this they banned the NBA Games for safety. They should ban going together because people down the way two games that's attached dangerous. They save more lives by banning people driving to the NBA Games and actually being at an NBA game. I just walked to the game. I mean they just walk. Save lives won't say Save Save Lives Flock. Everybody walks cars. Fear kills economies cure ills. Unfortunately in my humble opinion I think he's going to be more horrible stories coming out of it and you already see that airlines are asking for fifty billion twenty. Five billion cargo planes or cargo lines were asking for eight billion dollars today in fund. Because they're gonNA run out of money there you're not gonNA have any seed one billion we given hot-air Christmas group goes picked the wrong week. Okay wrong corona back to you. So you're you're you're GONNA be calm. Be Calm Wash your hands for goodness sakes. Don't be touching your face youth proper hygiene. And how little social distancing if you see someone if you feel bad? Steinheim no no no riding if you feel bad sore throat fever coughing upper respiratory anything it is probably not covert nineteen but just stay home. Can ever rash on your inner thigh. Showing Coworkers Co workers. I have a serious question censure Dr a so I don't drink anymore but when I did drink I drink a lot of corona. Do you think I made like immune to it now? I think it might be for now with the studies. But Hey that could that could be thing. That's like allergy shots I wanted I wanted to it. I wear throw a Corona Party and the cost of insurance. Is You have to six. Pack a grown man who had been wrapping your Labor Guinea with trump pro-trump autograph has definitely decreased. Your life expectancy. I think that I'm just GONNA give myself corona virus like how do a video where I stabbed myself. And then follow her death. Okay thank you all right. So we've got a bunch of successful entrepreneurs. We're having some fun. Let's in the show with a boom and then hope the planet doesn't blow up. Are you prepared? Yes I am out and now without further ado three what pulled.

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Corona Craziness

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Corona Craziness

"We need to roll back the state we've spy on all of our own citizens. Our prisons are loaded with non violent drug offenders. If you WANNA know who? America's next enemy is look at who were funding right now. Is Our government doing way too? Hello hello what's up everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of part of problem On location away from Away from the studio so number one Let me apologize to you. Guys for For the schedule being all messed up Over this last week I I am not in New York City. I'm at my wife's Family's house And that's that's where the The Smith family is camped out for the moment New York City's getting just kinda getting to the place where I just didn't feel Comfortable having my wife and my baby I in the city right now. We'll we'll see what's going to happen but So so we took it out here for a little. We actually came out here Because my my wife's grandfather has been l. and She wanted to come out and be with her mother while they were kind of dealing with that whole situation so we came out and then You know with with all that has been going on with this co- Corona virus scare and some some talk of of Shutdown the shutdown in New York City and some shelves being bear at the supermarket. Kinda just felt like it was a better move to just stay here for a little bit. I liked the idea of being out of the city and In a in a home that is stacked to the brim with With food and A little bit of weaponry and Just not not on top of everybody else as is the case in New York City so were were posted up here for a minute. I've come in and out of the city a couple of times already. I'll continue to do that But I liked. I liked the idea of having my family here. So anyway I I went back to To my apartment in New York City the other day and I grabbed my my USB microphone brought it out here was was planning on getting an episode at you guys a little bit earlier. The microphone wasn't working so I had to run out today and buy a new one so I hope this is sounding good. I did a quick audio test a minute ago and it sounded it sounded pretty good to me so I hope it sounds good. Probably not quite as good quality as we're used to in the studio but Yeah that's what we have to deal with. I bought a couple of so. If this one doesn't work I got. I got another one too so anyway. hope everybody is Is is doing well I I guess I'll I'll ramp to you guys about a few different things number one. Obviously this whole Corona virus situation is It's Kinda wild. I'm I'm sure a bunch of you feel the same way I do where it almost at. It feels a little bit. Surreal some of the stuff that You're reading And watching about it. I mean it feels almost like you know the beginning of some Some crazy movie where things start you know falling apart all over the world. I mean seeing the situation in Italy and now Spain Some of these other countries Iran has been really badly headed. Just all over the world and I gotTa my my initial instinct and let me just even as I did the other Last week when we were talking about this I preface by saying you know. I'm not anywhere you know. I'm not the expert on the situation or even an expert or even anything approaching an expert on this situation so I'm not suggesting that I'm the person to like listen to When it comes to talk about the virus and what what the real dangers are there but I will say that. My impulse With these things my first instinct is to be very skeptical like it was like. I don't know they're always trying to scare us with some new thing. They always overplay. It never turns out to be as bad as as they say I know the media is just loving this because their ratings go through the roof There's there's lots of money to be made all around and so I just you know. I'm just Kinda skeptical ads. Just you know whatever it's just. It's the flu but not as bad as the flu and everything will be fine. I that was kind of my my initial take on this and It doesn't quite feel that way anymore. Now I've been trying my best to read what some actual experts Say about the situation and and try and understand it but look I'll say this I As of right now I'm I'm concerned. I'm concerned on a lot of different levels. I I'm concerned about the actual virus. I'm concerned about the panic. As a result of the virus I'm very concerned about the government reaction To all of this and so I think I think there's a lot there This is going to have a huge impact one way or the other. We're already passed the point of avoiding that. I'm in many different levels now. Hopefully you know the the virus is not like the the main cause of all that. I don't know that it will be. It seems to me that the the major problem is that the spray like what are the major potential problem is something like You know the the spread of the virus can't be contained effectively It ends up. You know spreading to a lot of people. The hospital systems are overwhelmed. People are getting turned away. Choices are being made for with you know who to care for and who not to care for that that seems to me be like the worst case scenario although I guess worst case scenario is then around summertime the virus dies down a little bit going into next winter. There's some type of mutation is some type of evolution in the virus and it's worse. I think that would be like the worst case scenario by the way I'm not trying to be alarmist or anything like that I. I still think there's a good chance that doesn't end up happening. You know We'll see At this point I don't think it's a bad idea to be You know be very vigilant about washing your hands wearing gloves. When you're out stuff like that I I think that's A. That's that's fairly reasonable. And I guess tripe you know. Try TO What what are they calling it now to to Save I forget the term that everybody's using but try to isolate yourself a little bit Not not the worst. The worst idea But that being said you know I don't really know I I don't really know how all of this is going to shake out. And maybe maybe it won't be any of that and this along just kind of died down but as I'm sure most of you can tell at this point. This has gone beyond anything like you know swine flu or Ebola or any of these other things. It's a this is what we're dealing with. Now is a whole different realm and that is not just a matter of the actual virus like even if you think the actual virus is being completely overplayed this is all bullshit. Look when you live when when you have a situation where towns across the country are being locked down where people are being quarantined. All over the place When the NBA season is canceled when March madness is cancelled? When prize fights are getting cancelled? All of this stuff that starts to cross into a different level it's a different level of fear A out in the public You can see that with the shelves that are empty at grocery stores all around the country And and maybe that's that's probably worse in New York City in certain areas in New York City. That shelves were like completely empty But even out here by By my wife's Mother's placing like toilet paper and antibacterial soap and stuff like that. Which by the way I don't I don't completely understand. This might be a very ignorant thing to admit but I don't understand how antibacterial soap is going to help with a viral issue. Anyway that's I might just be stupid but The real thing that that you know you start to notice one way or the other. Here's this is going to have a tremendous impact on the economy a tremendous impact on the economy. I mean I I know I I've personally I've lost you know thousands of dollars over this virus already on. I'm sure just about everyone. Listening has in one way or the other had you know either. Their own Personal financial situation or their families or friends. You know has been negatively impacted. This is going on all over the place. I mean the amount of restaurants and businesses and you know Airlines all different sectors of the economy. That are just going to be devastated. By this devastated. He'll business is a tricky game. The majority the vast majority of businesses do not make it They're not success while most go out of business within the first five years And things like this can really throw off Thin profit margins a lot of times. There's not there's not that much wiggle room in something like this can really so the effects on the economy are going to be Disastrous and the you know the US economy as people. Listen to this show are probably more aware than the average person. The the economy is already. You know it's it's a teetering house of cards so to throw something like this ad. It is Is is could potentially have a huge huge negative impact and use you see this by the wage literally just before. I was starting to record. They just announced. I mean the Fed had already injected a I think something like one point five trillion dollars Into it's a tight over banks And they just announced the bringing interest rates down to zero says the first time they've done that since you know they Did that after the The financial crisis in two thousand eight. And that should tell you something about at least what. The perceived situation is from From our wise overlords over there at the Federal Reserve. And that. 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I think we talked about the election over the last two years probably We've said that you know the big game changer. The big elephant that could be in the room is a recession and recession can change everything and so this is This could be a nightmare situation for Donald Trump This is it's very very difficult for the incumbent To win in in a recession. It's very very difficult for an incumbent who's never cracked fifty percent approval ratings to win in a recession then. It's very very very difficult for an incumbent who's never cracked fifty percent approval ratings who's running on touting his great economy to win in recession so I I don't think people got well you know it was the virus so you know that we can't really blame trump as you already see From from the kind of standard democratic outlets there are there are gonNA be trying their best to blame every inch of this on Donald Trump You know which to some degree as unfair but at the same time Donald Trump will you know? I mean If you've seen already some of the sound bites I mean he's already said like five or six stupid things while this whole thing was going on so there's this this could be very very bad for him and if it ends up getting A Democrat elected could be very very bad for For the country so again it's early to predict any of that stuff but don't you know there's there's a lot to be concerned about here and I don't think it's smart To downplay it anymore. I don't I don't you know I don't want to be alarmist or tell people to you know panic or anything like that but I I will say I'm concerned about a lot of different aspects of this and The you know of course being a libertarian. Maybe it's my own bias but Though the one that to me is quite possibly the scariest is the government reaction To things like this you know. The governments in general are about as authoritarian as they can get away with being and that that's a general rule of thumb not not precisely true in every case but it's generally the truth and We'll see you know you. GotTa you gotTa think that if this is if this gets worse. Let's just say for the next you know month. This progresses In the way it's been a an Italy type situation. Well what you see is the normalization of martial law. This is happening all over the place in this country as well not on a national level yet but it is happening all over the place in this country. And this is where people really Get you know Comfortable and even in some cases Cheer on The stripping away of of individual rights and if history teaches us anything. That's not a great. That's not a great thing when governments start doing away with the idea of limitations on government power and individual rights So there's there's a lot to be concerned with their you know this isn't just a guess or thought. Look they're the two major The two major crises are crises. Crises of my lifetime Were probably nine eleven. And the the great recession in terms of like national emergency style things Which trump has officially declared this a national emergency for whatever that means and So so you know. There's look look look at the government reaction to both of those two. I mean nine eleven. The government reaction was a goddamn disaster. This is this is a big part of the reason that we have donald trump that we have the the you know that so many of our institutions. Are you know crumbling? The whole culture is being ripped apart so much so many of the problems that are going on right now are a direct result of of the response to nine eleven and in some ways the financial crisis was a result of that direct response. I mean it you know it. It was indirectly a result of of that response. I should say but you know the fact that they had to bring interest rates down so low to kind of help facilitate put in these wars on the credit card and ended up leading a bubble in the housing industry That's you know. There is a connection there but in response to to nine eleven with the the government grew enormously. We've launched war after war after war. I mean I don't know how many you know. Obviously the war in Afghanistan the war in Iraq. We also you know over through a government in Libya Started a civil war in Syria over through a government in Yemen now our funding one side of the ongoing civil war. They are Funding arming refuelling. Jets all that all of the above all across not to mention the military action in a few other countries out there but all of the response to nine eleven I mean it was just a blow trillions of dollars to kill hundreds of thousands of people you know decimate our own. You know brave young men who are propagandized into fighting in these bullshit wars. So there's you know the I mean the response was was a nightmare not to mention to really build up I mean it existed but to really ramp up the National Security State. The spying apparatus in in a way that was really unthinkable. Even when I just when I was a kid The idea of like you know collecting all of the data on on all Americans and all of this stuff and of course this whole this whole spying apparatus that was built up was a big part of the way they were able to. You know frame up. Donald Trump for the first three years of his His Candidacy and then administration and You know try to frame the sitting president as a you know a a guy who's colluding with a hostile foreign power and all this all this nonsense So that that was that was the response to nine. Eleven and of course the response to To The financial crisis of two thousand eight was what it was. You know bailing out of the big banks bringing interest rates down to zero You know destroying the The backbone of the American economy. Which was you know the the hard workers who saved their money just destroying them. I mean they had already been spitting on him for decades. But this was just a boot to the neck you know and And that was the response of record. High government spending The A borderline government takeover of the healthcare industry. You know like all the stuff and this is this is what governments do they They jump on these opportunities as they see them. There's Henry Kissinger said this. Didn't he say he said something? I can't remember the exact quote but it was like it was pretty straightforward. He said like every Every crisis is an opportunity to exploit. And that's that's the mindset of these Of these people who are members of the ruling elite? So it's not you know you don't have to necessarily go to some conspiracy like the virus doesn't exist or anything like that it does. It's not a matter of that. It's just a matter of I mean I don't know that that's not the case but I don't have any evidence to suggest it But it's the truth is that they have these plans. They wait for this moment and they're quite happy to pounce on it and to use this to get through what they've already wanted for a long time and of course the you know the war in Iraq was like a perfect example of that though war in Iraq was something that all of these neo cons were pushing for since the late eighties and then they were real upset with the the first war in Iraq. Under George H W Bush that they didn't overthrow Saddam And they wanted to. They wanted to overthrow him. They were pushing for that. All through. The eight years that Bill Clinton was president and they never got him to overthrow Saddam. They did get him to bomb the crap out of them and to starve them with With that blockade But you know once nine eleven happened. It was like okay. There's their opportunity. Now they can push for the policy that they've always wanted and and let's be very clear about what the government response already has been to the corona virus. I mean just particularly you know. Forget about the like The quarantines and the curfews and things like that things that you would think In a you know a constitutional republic or whatever were supposed to be would be powers that you're like okay we're where exactly by what statute by like. How exactly did the government's get this authority of even forgetting all that stuff? Just look at the financial stuff for a second. I mean so already before. This thing has really gotten bad. It's not as if you know there might be some projections and believe me. There's some really scary projections out there. But it might be projections about you. Know the Hospitals being You know like overrun and and you know the virus spreading all around or even like a you know a lot of people dying or whatever the worst projections out there are will before we've gotten to any of that. We already have The Fed extending one point five trillion dollars in in in loans to banks and And bring interest rates down to zero now now. What is that in reality? I mean that is nothing but just a I mean you could call it a bailout if you want to or you could call it just a straight up giving bankers money. I mean that's that's really what it is. Wouldn't you give them a trillion and a half dollars to the big banks that that's who gets this money okay and then you're going to bring interest rates down to zero which basically says that all the big banks can borrow money at zero percent interest rate and whatever they can get for the money whatever rates they get you know whatever interest they get for the money they loan out is all pure profit to them? This is nothing but a huge transfer of wealth from the Working People in America to the big banks that has been the response of the federal government already just straight up robbing the American people of their wealth and giving it to the banks. I mean that the people who don't need it the people who are in many ways responsible for the economic mess in over the last The last twelve years in America. I guys let's take a quick second. I WanNa thank our sponsor for today's show. Which is Vin Cerro? Listen I'm not usually a watch guy but I just got my second watch from Ben. 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'cause we care about truck drivers so much or something like that This is just come on man. I mean just on its face. Isn't it so obvious that this is bullshit If you really cared about saving the economy or or you were really like you know cared about the people In America let's say you had leaders in the government who cared about the people? I mean there's lots of other options of ways that you could try to help the economy short of we're going to give the big banks a ton of money there. There's lots of other ways I mean. Obviously you know Libertarians. We have our own. You know Preferred methods but I mean think about it right like think about if you really wanted. Oh you wanted to stimulate the economy or you wanted to To bail people out or help people out in this tough time. I mean what if they just came out and said We are suspending the income tax for two years. How about that? How you just come out and say we're just guys because of the situation we wanna you know stimulate the economy we're GONNA suspend the income tax for two years no federal income taxes. I mean that would do a lot a lot more to stimulate the economy and it would actually reward everybody. Who's doing the right thing? Who's out there working? I mean you know th they're they're terrified to give you a taste of that because they don't want you to see how sweet it would be to not have to not have to get robbed out of every paycheck They don't WanNa let you check that out. 'cause you may not you may not ever want to go back but that would certainly be Another way to stimulate the economy and it wouldn't involve You know it wouldn't involve paying off big bankers but I guess that's just not a not quite as much fun for the powers that Bay But so this is. This is what's happened already and just wait because it's it's GonNa get worse. There's all these All these Criminals who who run government and influence government. They're all waiting. You know the the worst this thing gets the more they're going to be able to exploit it so we will keep our eyes on that all right so the other thing that I I wanted to mention that that has I. I've seen a lot of people talking about and of course this is where you know what. Piques my interest is that there has been a lot of talk of how this Corona virus situation. How our Global Pandemic Works with Libertarian. Theory or libertarian philosophy and There's been a lot of people who have who have been criticizing The Libertarian saying that you know in some way that this kind of disproves. The idea of Libertarianism. Being a viable option. Because what are you GonNa do when there's this type of This type of outbreak So there was one at blue checkmark. Forget who tweeted something like there are no libertarians in a pandemic and the tweet went viral. And you got a lot of Libertarians. Myself included a little A little annoyed But anyway so I just wanted to like address that and talk about that for for a little. Bit like what? How DOES LIBERTARIAN PHILOSOPHY? Deal with this type of situation. How would a free society deal with these issues? Let me just say first of all. I think it's I. I don't even know understand why this is difficult for for people. I mean I don't get why I don't know where people are coming from. I think there was a New York Times article that said something about socialism being needed for for for a global pandemic a pandemic or something like that I you know I remember doing podcasts. On this back in like During Hurricane Sandy. When they would say you know a big storm requires big government. And if it's like you live through these situations where what the world we live in. Is the government failing at every level to do what they need to do in these situations and then you're like out there's proof where would we? What would we do without the government? It really does remind me of that old. You ever share that old Like Communist joke Say there's there's two women on a bread line in the Soviet Union and one of them's complains a other woman and she's like Oh my God. He's bread lines. The terrible you know every day the lines get longer and they give us less and less bread. This is just such a nightmare. And the other woman says Don't complain in America. They don't even have bred lines something like that. In America. The government doesn't even give out bread or something like that. Anyway you get the idea. It's an old dumb joke but I like it but The idea is just that you know you think. Oh well if the government didn't I mean I know the government's doing a terrible job in were starving to death but it's better than having no one give out bread you know. Then that's of course the old status myth that if the government doesn't do it it doesn't exist But so you know that's that seems to be the mentality people have like well. The government's doing a really shitty job. But that's better than no job being done at all Anyway I don't think that there is on any level of pandemic presents a problem. Well I mean of course it presents a problem in any society but I don't think it presents some like issue with the philosophy of libertarianism. Like oh we can't figure this out I will say that it does perhaps Present a bit of a problem for the open. Borders men are cast types. See like that. I think is more of a reasonable Criticism. Like to say like okay. Well like who like there's really no open borders advocates in a pandemic an analysis. Not Completely. I'm sure there are still some but that does to me. I will grant you. That seems a little bit crazy The idea that like you wouldn't be able to close down travel Look let let me say. This number one There for the. I don't know if I'd say the majority but a huge portion a huge huge portion of what the government's response has been to that corona virus and in many ways probably the best aspect of the government's response has been cutting red tape essentially leading hospitals and Medical professionals get out of the normal regulations. That don't allow them to do what they want to do. So a beautiful thing about anti-capitalism libertarianism volunteerism. Is that they basically say of the philosophy. Says we say none of this red tape exists at all. Just get rid of all the red tape permanently. Lent hospitals do what they think is best. What all of these different doctors and nurses and first responders with them all do what they think is best and you don't have to have you know. Donald trump getting up there saying you know I'm a we're GONNA cut the red tape to this and that so that you can do what you already should have been allowed to do The other thing is that this is really the beauty of anarchy. Capitalism is that You have what you have is a situation where there is maximum efficiency with minimum authoritarianism. So you know. There are certain efficiencies that like a dictator could have of government over like A. Let's say a Republican that's not really describing our country but like a you know a government with divided powers and limited powers right like a dictator can just say we're doing something and it gets done But the problem with that is that in order to have that situation. You have to give ungodly amount of power to one person who you know if you look throughout history. There's this to use that for Evil and not like just a little bit evil like Holy Shit you know Biblical fucking movie level evil In anarchy in an anchor capitalist society. What you have is all of that efficiency. But it's so decentralized and everything is you know a acquired through like you know just acquisition of property and so you have that efficiency without the evil without having the right to rule over other people so obviously in in an an cap society if communities streets buildings. Everything's privately-owned You can shut down travel instantaneously. I mean you can. You don't have to go through any red tape. The property owner can do whatever they want to in the same way that you can You cannot let somebody else in your house. Communities could just not let other people in I mean you could have far more effective quarantines And and you can do it all without the possibility of martial law and all this other stuff So it's it's it's just like a far better system And and it really does go to show how. How much people Misunderstand this this stuff. You're also going to be way way. More likely to figure out a vaccine figure out solutions. I mean Qadam. They literally just The FDA just allowed this corona test. That was something like ten times faster and gave better results than the current test. That's on the market. So just you know what I'm saying. Like just the only thing the government ever dozen times they go. Okay we'll get out of the way and let the market solution which is so much better than the one we have. Here will that Go out to the People. Like wow thanks government. Thanks for all the help. What would we do without you in a pandemic we'd probably solve it much quicker And we'd probably limit it much earlier on And I don't know if you see the way people are reacting to things like this well okay That that would seem like yet. I don't think it would be too difficult to work up. A key to convince community is to Suspend travel from affected areas. I think it would be pretty easy. And there is something you know like really There's something really amazing about just watching the whole thing. Play out in the way that the government operates Bernie Sanders said something And I'll get more into Bernie Sanders on the next episode. I'm going to do a an episode on the debate. and This the state of the presidential race. I'll do that in in another episode and then I I now that I got my recording situation. Set up here. I'll I'll put out some extra content this week. Bonus episodes everybody get ready I think I might do like some more like shorter episodes while while we're out here but but you know Bernie Sanders had thing. He tweeted out the other day and he's just so such a great Bernie Sanders moment shows. How much heat like this socialist mindset where they just misunderstand everything but he said Something along the lines of like you know Let me be very clear to the pharmaceutical companies In a a situation like this a national emergency. This is not the time for profiteering. Whoever makes the cure it should be distributed for Free? And they shouldn't profit at all from making mature. Now I kind of I guess I kind of understand like if you were like sixteen and don't understand anything about economics than like maybe that sounds kind of Nice like yeah you should just be really great guy and make you know. Figure out a vaccine for this and then distribute it to everybody for free But for adults in the real world I mean what had Bernie Sanders actually. Just say what. What is he saying? Here he's saying Basically I'd like to remove any incentive for somebody to to solve this problem Hejaz. No you evil bastard who are trying to solve this problem. There is no reward for you. If you do absolutely none in fact we're going to be looking at us saying oh you figured it out now you oh everybody. That's you better to figure out how to distribute it to everybody and don't expect to make a penny off of it. I mean stupid is that here's like this is really just like right there. The difference between the Socialist and the capitalist mindset and the what the capitalists understands. It's like well look feel however you feel about prophets and how bad you think that is what I would like right now is to say. Oh if somebody could solve this problem I want them to get filthy fucking rich because now they're really really incentivized really motivated to solve the Goddamn problem. And that's what you want now. Where where do you think you're going to get more of that In a Libertarian Society or with big government where do you think you're going to get more incentive less red tape to go solve the frequent problem another Just one other Quick Point is that you know there's been a lot of demonizing of price gouging In this environment and Of course for those of you who have like read your Walter Block and know the stuff I mean. Price-gouging would actually help the situation quite a bit. It would help the situation quite a bit If if people could just you know if there if there was no regulation on what people could charge In the situations of people weren't being demonized for that you'd have much less shortages. You'd be more likely to get hand sanitizer and yeah. You'd have to spend a little bit more on it but like I don't know most people I think in this situation are willing to spend a little bit more on it. That's why I mean. They wouldn't price gouge if they couldn't get it So so that's another aspect that would be a greatly Where the situation would be greatly helped With you know free markets and eliminating government from the equation But anyway it's You know I would as I said before I would. I guess concede that there does seem to be You know some degree of of a floor exposed in the kind of open borders monarchist position. And then you know you start to get into this A situation where you're like okay. Well if you're if you're okay with suspending your open borders now during a pandemic you know it does just philosophically speaking. It becomes that old You know the olds you know would would you sleep with me for ten million dollars Okay would you sleep with me for five dollars of who do you think I am well? We've already established who you are now. We're just negotiating. You know that alda that old thing so if you're if you're saying oh it's okay to close borders now. It's like okay. Well so why because it's going to be a disaster. It's like okay so then basically if anyone thinks it's going to be a disaster you can close the borders. But what exactly where do you you know arbitrarily? Draw that line of disaster because there's a lot of people who have maybe taken a quick glance at the history of multiethnic multiracial democracy's and thought you know. I think that might be a disaster. So it's just now you know it's just like you're not so you're not standing so firmly on principals if you're willing to compromise your principles when things are scary and then you have to decide. Well what's scary what you know like what is a reasonable line to say okay? This is the this is a time when we can compromise on our principles so there might be something to that but private property and caps. I mean this is all I see are the numerous different ways that we would be so much better off avoiding all of this government. Red Tape Avoiding all of these. You know these problems and a much more efficient manner and You know so. Despite having all of these government organizations set up with the pure task of you know of you know like the the CD's pure task is the control of of these outbreaks. That's what they do and I'm sure that they'll just get more money for it and this is really I mean. That's that's it. I mean obviously you know I I assume most people listening to this show already know this shit and I've certainly been talking about it for years but this really is the the you know the essence of the mechanical problem with State Azam And it's it's not like obviously there's a million and one moral problems but even if you get past all of that the reason why right the reason why You know big governments fail. The reason why. Communism fails and capitalism succeeds. The reason why this like you see people starving to death in these socialist countries. And then you see people with like they're fucking Nice. Houses and pools in these capitalist countries is because the market has something that the government does not and that's the cleansing mechanism of the Prophet and law system. So when somebody does a really good job and pleases the consumers they pleased their customers. They make profits and when they don't they have losses and they go out of business. They suffer for it when you do a bad job. You suffer for it. I guarantee the result of all of this will be the CDC getting more money in government when you fail you get rewarded. So all of the incentives are lined up free for you to fail or certainly you're not incentivized not to I mean it's it's like you know this is you. You can fail your way To a budget increase. This is what happens all you know all you look at any area of of the government like public schools. They fail and fail and found and they go. We'll see we're failing because we need more money save right okay. But when businesses fail as they could easily just say like well. We're failing goods. We need more money. But it's like nope. Sorry you're not you're your customers aren't happy so you don't get any more money you go out of business So anyway I mean I just think this whole situation is like look you know. I guess I'll I'll wrap up here for this. A Corona virus episode but I I'm concerned about the situation. I think it's GonNa get worse before it gets better. I think the government response is going to be very very bad. I think this is going to have a huge impact on the presidential race. I'm going to get more into that next episode Where we are with this whole crazy. Primary season and You know this is a a potential to be bad but hopefully hopefully. It's not as bad as a as it could. So we'll see we'll see what happens anyway. Thank you guys for listening. I hope everybody is Is staying safe and being careful out there and I will I'll I'll put out a bunch more content this week I promise you that So my apologies for For the erratic schedule for missing a couple of episodes last week Although I hope you enjoyed the The Michelle Malkin interview. Maybe I'll even do a an episode this week where I address that and some of the more controversial stuff going on anyway Also I recorded in episode with a Pete Granada's Pete Raymond Reiter Mounts I recorded His his wonderful podcast Freeman beyond the wall So that's out so you can go check that out and I think I'm gonNA episode with Tom. Woods tomorrow for for his show So I'll you know you guys get you guys will get a lot of content adamy this week if your home and if you're if you're in quarantine or your self quarantining or whatever it's called self distancing that the term looking for if you're doing any of that stuff they'll be I'll I'll make sure I have some content at for you guys all right. Thanks for listening. Talk to you soon piece.

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Cassandra's Revenge MID-SEASON FINALE review (Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure)

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Cassandra's Revenge MID-SEASON FINALE review (Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure)

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Cassandra's revenge on big mid season finale. There was an episode and episode for the books. Wouldn't you say oh I would say but before we get into it? Let's do a little catching up. What's up with your life. I am going to take the final firm. I J term class this week and I'm flying back to university. My break is sadly coming to an end in a few days. Thought time. That's all I have to say. Welcome back to the real world. Come join us. I'm so sad I'M GONNA MISS. My little puppy so much. No little babies were flying back to school. But I'm going to be driving back home coming from school. Have my second ICE Rhodri. Yea well good to see you then and we to celebrate his birthday together. So that'll be fun. Well not fun for you because you have surgery but any less offensive surgery so I think all of the thankful for what I can get Our auntie said don't tell got his son know when uncle has done. She said that it went really well and he could like opened his eye with an hour so laser his doctor. The doctor said that I'm going to have to wear a patch for the first day so I don't think all the opening the I can i. Can I call you? Pirate Pete if you so choose can I call you horace? I mean the Free Country Intel cast comes and takes it over. That is so. Let's get down to business to defeat the Huns okay. Speaking of the Hud's I'm really excited about the new Milan movie coming out the trailer. Really good okay. Now they've got that way CASSANDRA's revenge. is the double-leg midseason finale. It was written by Ricky Roxburgh and story boarded by Anna. Leoni Caitlyn Ridder Windy Sullivan and Kuni. Tomita and it was directed by Tom. Caulfield and Shane's Alvin it. Also features two new original songs from Alan Menken. Ooh So let's Start by kind going through and talking about what we thought so. The episode opens up with this really beautiful like instrumental music. It's a lovely day birds chirping and flying over the city and then at least I know I paused for you. You interrupted me go ahead. I just loved the opener and the song so much. It was just a tangled tangled at. It's finest and you better tell everyone where you watched this episode so that I can publicly. Shame you for it. I wash my own guys. I've a very very nice screen. And it's not super small phone and the we I live out in the country and my phone gets better connection than my laptop so That's why I have to watch on my phone. I don't accept that. No one should ever watch anything longer than like a ten minute youtube video on their phone if you are someone who watches like a full length. Tv Like hour-long special or a movie on your phone. There is something wrong with you. Well someone's screaming. Lord Judgmental Today The opening song we start right off with the girl who has everything I thought it was a pretty nice on. It wasn't super memorable like I don't really remember how it goes but I do remember what it was about. And it was a good song to set up. You know that proposals the super privilege. Princess has everything she's ever wanted. I loved how she was doing her art and like the art was coming to life during the saw it was just so magical and I just love the opener. All the color is in disrepair like back in her positive like mindset being so happy and laid off but it was definitely like wow I can see why cast like has a bone to pick with you yes. It wasn't important song to set up. How costs about it and Since we learned last episode it's been months since all the Castro. The happened makes sense while pencils back to normal sunny so yeah there was a light in the song that I thought was kind of funny. Because it almost sounded like S- I mean kind of sounded like she was friends. Doni new gene in a way even though they're like obviously dated and stuff but it was just kind of funny 'cause she was like. Oh I love all my friends especially you gene. Like he was just a friend and I just made me laugh a little bit because I was like but sounds like he's not really the like more important to you than regular friend who was just. Kinda funny and I love. She had one of her and her mom and her aunt and I loved it when she and her aunt got to have a dry together. I missed that spunky aunt so I was glad they included her in the beautiful portraits. I'm glad you mentioned that because I wrote that down to is like the two. I really liked with ant. And then the one with red and angry and Eugene lands and how at first they were like enemies and then they were friends. I love how animations that she was Illustrating just Kinda came to life two. It was really cool and then I really like the thing I like most about the song is that lady Old Lady. Crawley apparently heard it and kind of hums to herself as she's walking down the hallway. Yeah that was pretty funny and then you gene to confront her and ask. She thinks it's the right time to propose and she says that she's Eugene is not her time I love how Eugene is so So nervous about it. Because he's been turned down twice now that he will literally ask Old Lady Crawley just to give himself some more confident he has no idea. If it's the right time this point yeah and like you and I totally called the proposal things like I think I can't remember. I know he predicted that. What of them would propose again in the next episode before the season's over and I was right for Rapunzel was thinking of proposing herself so I was. I was happy that we kind of predicted that a little bit and I think it was really cool that she wanted to propose on his birthday. Twist that she was. GonNa do it because I mean after turning him down twice. It is kind of on her. I feel like He. Honestly it's the NFL of a weird move for him to propose a third time after being turned down twice. I feel like I feel like you should get the hint that it's going to have to be heard to make the next move after you know getting turned down but and I kind of love it. 'cause I think repentance it'd be a little bit untraditional and be like yes. I want to ask you now Just kind of turned the tables on him. And it's funny because in our family There's been three different women in my family who have proposed to their spouse so I thought it was kind of funny but yeah I liked. Tally was having her make kind of that. Fido move be like. Hey we need to tie this. Not so yeah. What did you think of the ring she picked up? I thought it was really cool Then after that little intro song cuts away and shows US CASS and she has finally arriving at Coronas borders and she's got a cool new outfit. Yes her cool are is made from the Block Rock. So it's super durable. But I have to wonder exactly how She moves in it if it's made from rock. It's like flexible rock. I wonder how how like how come the is that. Like when she's sitting down she's literally sitting on a rock. I also loved like Eugene's Dad being back that he was still there and Republicans. Like so worried about Eugene. Finding out about The surprise party. She's planning because the dad let her know what day is actual birthday was and how he's actually turning and he's like. I didn't even think about it around him just to make sure that he wouldn't signed down the crazy crow. Dodd is back in his still. Has that quirk where he says what he's thinking like when he's like okay. Come to hi Fi Frederick. Yeah he's such a such a silly billy he in Frederick would get along really nicely now. That Frederick loosened up a bit My goodness I wonder. I wonder when his crow crow ever lays an egg about Frederick's GonNa Steal it his collection you won't have to steal it. He'll just the criminal. Just give it to them coming back to when they were trying to keep you gene for Friday. Doubt about the party and stuff. I love That landslide caught on so quick to repentance. Hint like Oh get him out of here. Give him like a a list to do for this fake party that were like coming up with. Keep him from finding out the real deal and lance was just so funny about his his list and like getting everything on less exactly right and it was just really funny. I really enjoyed that little moment. They had together. I was a little confused on. If that was a list of things. They actually need it or was it just a random list that she had lying around just randomly. I'm pretty sure it was actually for the party because I thought I saw some like a few of the items were party related like balloons or something but then almost it was like singer Song. Well maybe maybe she anticipated having to get Eugene out of the way and so she wrote it up ahead of time. Maybe it may be. So what do you think about the kind of the setup for the episode being that it's Eugene Party? I liked it. I like that. You Gene Eugene he no. He loves talk about himself. And so it was like the cake was of his face and everything I thought that was so funny And it was really really interesting how they all hung up about his age. Yeah that'd be so interested. I thought I was wondering how you feel about that because we always talk about how funny their age gap is in. He confirms that he is officially twenty six today. His really feeling his age. He's like wow. I mean imagine scary. That'd be to realize like your your life like your days are already so numbered and then being like wow. I have a whole less year of life than I thought I would have. I wrote down. It reminds me a lot of if you read the book the candy makers by Wendy Mass it reminds me a lot of daisy because she the same thing happens to her basically she finds out. She's a year older than she was in so she finds out that she missed her big like official teenage coming of Age Party. So a just a year might not sound like a big realization. It does mean that all your milestones off. Yeah that is Kinda. That's very weird and I was. I was lucky kind of annoyed because they always get interrupted like right before like right before they can answer so like Republicans like just about pose and then like cast bursts. It and I was like no because at the coronation like very similar happens where she liked. Can't really answer because Fillon pops in so I just what I wanted to be? Like right after Poza where he says yes and then cast can come in as like I was so close. But but how do you feel now? That Eugene's ages officially confirmed as twenty six. Well he acts like he's too so balances out kind of funny because we've always talked about that and then they give like this like Yup. Okay you want to know how this all the. It's a surprise to him too. I thought it was really sweet though his dad knew about it and kind of planned planned So he could officially give them real birthday. But I'm kind of didn't tell us what day it is. It would have been kind of Nice to know so we can celebrate you know as a Fan community like in January twentieth or something. I mean I guess we can say that it's the day the episode came out which would be January twenty. Sixth Twenty fifth. Isn't that twenty today. Oh my goodness so. Eugene is a January Baby. Oh that makes sense though. It came out on the twenty six piece turning twenty six thousand good schedules things the way they do. I guess so kind of makes sense in this case the twenty sixth of January. Okay but yes right right on time to spoil the engagement which we kind of predicted as a funny thing remember we were like will you marry me and then. Casandra like no. If it's Herbert cazar ruined everything. I'm wondering so she comes in and she's like swell party guessing. My invitation lost in the mail. How Long Do you think she workshop? That expect there to be a party when she burst editor. I mean I feel like she probably surveyed the scene a little bit. I was Kinda confused. They seemed like so surprised that she came to corona. But why didn't they expect to come to corona? I mean. She obviously had beef over puzzle at? She's big odd for Bud. So obviously I would think it'd be logical. They expect you to show up sooner or later. Will I mean they were probably trying not to? I mean it's not something you really want to think about and after it's been months so I feel like if she was gonna come back they would expect her to come right back but since she stayed away for so long they probably were just trying to put it out of their minds. I mean obviously all their attention was on this part is you don't really think about you know that happening at that time. Cast you perfect. I like to think that she planned it on purpose. So that she could ruin Eugene's birthday his birthday was maybe she did. Maybe the ghost told her. Maybe I really loved Lances Little Bit with the popcorn. Two dollars funny. I'm glad you said that 'cause I screened to that and I tweeted out. This is all of us today. Yep Very humorous yet but the whole first confrontation does not really go at all. How I expected it costs. Just kinda walks in and she slices herself a piece of cake and she even shuts the door on her way back out. Yeah she's very neat and tidy. It was yeah. I was not expecting that at all. I mean it. Wasn't it really a standard kind of villain reintroduction expected at least slam the door? You know I think she shouted pretty pretty normally. Yeah it was. Kinda weird how she said. Oh you know there's only like You know ex cons to advise you now and I thought that was kind of a weird line because reponsible has parents who are royalty to advise so I was like what do you mean like. She's still not like a lot of like wise people router to advise it. I was just kind of a weird weird lying. And then she says lance she says the only advisers you have left are ex convicts and losers but I thought it might have been a better line to say ex convicts and children because reading angry. You seem to be in the inner circle. Now that's true that's true and technically to land said that ever been convicted of anything that everyone caught to be convicted. That was funny and I also thought it was funny when Eugene Votes. He needed to clarify whether you felt that he had to clarify that. He did not wish for cast to come back did he was that secretly. His wish they collaborated yeah. I thought it was interesting. That after last week's incident with the moisturizer he has this whole age. Dilemma TALKS ABOUT NEEDING. A skin tightening serum. Yeah I just felt bad for me. He's only twenty cents makes it sound like he's a Geezer. I guess it's just when he's you know Interrelationship with puzzle. He just feels so much older. Because of the gap between them maybe maybe he has a lot of life. You know life of Crime. Really Ages you. I just loved it when we got to see vary again. Because they felt that the scroll was with varying because he was doing some testing deciphering with it and I was so funny with his little mineral content and then he gets embarrassed when they come in. I died it was so funny. Variant has a pretty big feature this episode. I Love Marianne. Yes Jeremy Jordan. Oh his dog was so good. Yeah so Basically when cast stormed into the party she says that she wants the scroll and she'll give them some time to think about it And then re runs vary in because he has the scroll but then of course Cassandra tailed her. Yeah you should have been a little more discreet about that. Yeah I mean I guess the the party excitement and the proposal excitement in the cast unexpected entrance. Everything Kinda went to her head But they get the Than Cassandra starts causing some chaos and unleashes a giant boulder whatever. It is After Eugene lands and Max Yeah and and you could see like cast is shaken like a little bit with Pennzoil says in the ghost girl like appears and says like Oh you got to refocus on your goal your mission and I really think she is a she is a ghost or like she was a ghost Pretty pretty explicit confirmation here because nobody can see or hear her. Yeah so yeah I was GONNA say no she. S kind of. I mean yeah so. I thought that was interesting. A haunting CASSANDRA. Yeah so that was kind of sad to see her pop. No cast keep focusing on this story and your arch rival Blah Blah Blah. Yeah Real quick before we move on. I just want to highlight the fact that Max did a backflip and landed on the boulder and capped his balance with to fully grown men on his back. He's very athletic. And also when Knox an Eugene fell into the cavern land single handedly pool you know. Stop Them from falling a horse girl. I was thinking about that. You got guns on you bro. Yes during that scene I was Kinda confused because the the boulder starts to tip and land. Eugene start to fall and I thought the reponsible is GonNa go save them but then it looks like she's running the other way and I was so confused because I was like. Why are you ready to go save them but then? I guess she was holding up the boulder so they could escape but I thought she was going to go pull them out so I was so confused at first because I thought she was just like. See you guys later. She's like every princess for herself. Only by one quote I wrote down from CASS IN REPRISAL CONFRONTATION. Here is that Castrate up tells her. My mother chose you over me Even though off puzzles hurt by Goth. Those actions Cassandra like I mean it would be kind of a hard thing to deal with. If your own mother chooses to kidnap another little girl instead of his one. She already legally as well. I Made Magic tear child or Normal Chai. Which would you rather So it seems like I mean Cassandra's not really angry Angry at what repel reminds her of which is her mother. Yeah not choosing to be with her. Yeah I feel sorry for varian because the all this drama between cast puzzle gets results in his entire lab being destroyed when he you know has no idea about what's going on and he didn't go on the road trip with them and he's not involved in this in this beef them but he is like the collateral damage that the whole episode. Yeah and Whitaker Poor Whitaker Ruddiger. Isn't it a whitaker you're right? It's ready to go. I thought I said what occurred the episode. I was confused yet. He has a twin brother than whittaker. Yeah like what for some reason? I thought it's just the way the pronounce it confuses me sometimes rutgers kind of odd name as you're saying that she kind of cast uses varied to Get Like what she needs like. She's him as the means to an end so she kidnaps him and takes him to this layer. She creates an Lizzy was saying that it really reminded her of like Elsa which makes the rocks and like her her cool middle layer because like alpha. Does that like with your point. The ice from the ground and I was like no and the Mara washed. I was like yeah. It is very reminiscent of Elsa because she always use your hands to like flush out ice spikes and now it's rock spikes instead at certain really kind of reminiscent of Ice Palace. Though I think CASSANDRA's a little bit more overtly villainous than Elsa but yeah yeah so she brings varian back to her her hideout and she gives him a true Sierra after she knocks him out and she says and lucky for you. Lucky for me. You sleep with their mouths open. Because he's like it kind of just showed you know cast is one step ahead of them. Yeah and she's still. She's still her very snarky. Self so yeah so poor commode yeah. Poor varying was forced to to say the incantation when he really didn't want to. I felt bad for something. I thought they might. You know do something with the potential romance between them. Since he had the truth serum and she might something might come out of that but I guess not well she. She already knew that he liked her so she did ask him any questions. Okay who is the opposite? Very totally would've asked her but anyway they get. I'm kind of glad you get married. Because they get this amazing. Soggy were varied like no. I've been evil and it sucks and you lose who you are and you need to come back to us. And she's like I don't have anything else to lose and OH German Jordan's voice is just amazing and eat into a wonderful job as well. I'm pretty yeah I think before before the song What prompts the song is that varian. Kind of says she's the villain and I thought it was really funny when she said is what I am. I was like CASS. Honey you literally wearing black spikes and you're singing about darkness while you're fighting your friends come. Yeah it's kind of interesting. Didn't think of herself as a villain. Necessarily she just thought of just taking what was rightfully hers. Shame think about how it would affect people. Maybe necessarily mean you all have. Everyone thinks of themselves as the hero of their own story about that story. Spikes come on. You're going to grow. Who Sings too? Are you saying that people who are black spikes are come on okay so I? I was a little annoyed that wraps in cast get their rat battle Song that the more I thought about it the more I realized that at this point varian was kind of the best person to reach her. Because she's harboured all these feelings toward puzzle all these months now and so they're basically at this point. I feel like there's nothing they can really say to each other because there are so cemented in their feelings toward each other. I mean wraps no. I'm not going to engage with you. I'm not going to give you a reason to hate me and it's like I don't care you soul everything from the bow tie feel about you and so there is like the he has to speak with her goth to gough and sing song so that you can reach or because he's even says like. I'm sorry I know this is your fault. Yeah so I thought it was kind of a cool thing. But he's the one who gets that big emotional song and the shot where they were circling around the Kimbler circling around them as they like each other is really breathtaking on the Arctic Bat. Songs definitely GONNA go down as one of the best. Yes definitely anyway so yeah so after that cave like confrontation and everything She liked built her her rock. Tower thing up and Lizzy was pointing out. I didn't get this at first. But she built like the tower on top of where Mother Gospels Tower stood. And I get that I really interesting because they really made a point to emphasize like this is what's missing. What what did you think all those scraps of old paintings were I i? Yeah that's obviously a tower and I was like no that's weird and then I finally got it and I was like wow I guess you're right because she did paint that a while ago and that was a really interesting call back and everything like that they chose to set it up there But anyway yeah we're pencil was really really a power. Move by Cassandra to make rapunzel revisit that trauma. Yeah and so you. Gene is like oh where she or someone is and runs. Like I think I know where this obvious. Rock Tower there. Let's go look for her there and then them trying to get it was kind of funny. All the hijinks of the sap and everything I I was on board with Lances Plan in theory but an execution. It wasn't so bright they were doing that. I was reading note about like I'd be it'd be funny. If cast was watching them and then literally shows her laughing about. I could watch them all day. Yeah that was pretty funny at this point. She has the power and so her neck step isn't really clear. She's kind of content to just sit back and watch but then the blue girl of course has to stir up more strife. Like No. You need to have that final confrontation now because we eventually learn. She's angrily to have a full on clash between son and mood because somehow that will release her from her spiritual prison. Yeah Yeah that was I. Don't think either you are. I would expect the ending of this episode because I was like what I was expecting it to resolve the drama between them but it turns out this was kind of like the I mean it was the mid season and this was kind of the mid point So it seems like CASS is destined not to come back to them until at least the finale. I feel like this plan. I mean obviously the blue haired girl is going to be a villain and cast is going to help. Take Down Probably. Hopefully she's not really blue anymore is she? She's more of a like a vampire. No wonder cast was attracted to be her underling because cast is very often. She's very goth as well. Loved Scoff Representation. My goodness fun fact. I dyed my hair completely block when I was in middle school. I was not a good luck. Fear Your skit Berkeley Vampire you were. It was like a good. It was a good time to look like a vampire though. Love Vampire books and fiction and shows were out there so they were they were had a positive light a little bit in the media so it was a good time to look like a vampire so basically the final act is rapunzel confronting cast while Eugene Talks to varian out on his little spindly arm which reminded me a series of unfortunate events win. Sunny Baudelaire is kept that tower in the first book. Yeah I didn't even think about that. You're right think about the henchman without the hands. I oh he's he's so funny. I I love. Oh by the way. Apparently Net flicks is also going to make a series of the Prequel all the wrong questions series about limiting kids. My goodness excited in the same director. Who did the series is going to be so it will have the same easy. So that's going to be cool if I know it's crazy. And what I found out to from net flicks. They just announced that Goma girls a year in the life is getting a second season. I did not think they were going to do it but they are. And I just couldn't believe IT I. I didn't really like a your life. A lot of people don't like the in life but I mean there are some really big questions at the end of the year in the life so it will be interesting to see how they answer them off. So I'm GonNa Watch it because I'm a fan even if I don't like them I'm GonNa Watch them. 'cause I've watched everything five for about an with an E. So I was I wasn't I wasn't quite done with I character placement. And so that's going on up above lance and Max and read. An angry are doing their best to get to the drama and try to find the action but much to read an angry. Chagrin lands does not know what he's doing. He said we have to go down to go up. Going up to go up is too simple. Yeah that was pretty funny. They're very silly little. I mean a little annoying because I was like. Why did you guys split up in the first place but I guess cast with Or Self Yeah. They had to have a little showdown and I cannot believe that vary in like the blue girl comes him in a dream and he kind of takes to heart what she says about finding the fourth incantation that it will set cast free or whatever and I was like no vary no. Why would you believe this weird blue disembodied baby had wherever thing and dream like? Why what are you doing like why? Why using this for like kind of knowing what it might lead to you like I was so nervous I was like. She's totally tricking them. Obviously like why are they walking me this again? Tation because like that one time when we're pencils saying being Asian the really know what it did like you know. Everybody's the lifeguard drain so be careful about that Yeah I was confused. Why is she was helping them at first But then I guess seen it from varian side he probably just woke up and didn't really I mean he just remembered the advice he didn't really think about. Oh why did this random blue girl tell me? He wasn't with them. When repel chanted incantation in the yeah that is true? That's true and I mean I guess too. He's also fourteen you know he doesn't have great decision making skills yet so. I probably panicked. You know trying to solution to get out of there and they burned the actual school dot. I thought it was funny because repent zone. Eugene were standing together and she's like could use this and they're having that moment and then Cassandra like makes this big bump hathen and she's not come on guys run interrupt this heartfelt moment. You need to come come to me beyond the and then. They have their big epic battle. It's pretty cool. Rapunzel has glowing eyes and everything and she's floating over the ground. Yeah she's such a creepy like Golden Ghost. I don't even know it's very interesting. And Yeah we kinda see like during the battle like with her with her golden flash of light with her power she singing this fourth incantation that bring the sun and moon like together. Whatever into alignment Their forces like combined or whatever It was interesting. I could see like the Moonstone Shatter. The peace falls out. I had this premonition. I was like I bet like. That's at the ghost. Free Alexi stuck in the moonstone factors like she's set free and that's exactly what happens We kind of end the episode with The ghost being free and I was a little little confused. How things wrapped up. Because Cassandra falls off the edge and we learned that she survives re Pencil. Do they not know that she survived? That was so weird. I felt like they'd like didn't care about her three like I. I'm very confused about what happened. Because it kind of just like wrapped up and they were just kind of went on their merry way or whatever after like cast fell down and they were free to leave to search for a body. Yeah yeah like they were like. Oh let's go home. Nothing got resolved like I am very confused about why they just feel like they could leave without like fighting casts. Because if he's alive you know they would think she saw threat because they don't really know about the blue girl. Let's let's get into our our final thoughts about this episode. I guess now that you mentioned That I kind of agree that it felt like nothing. Really this upsurge. Generally really I get prolong the conflict and it gave us some nice songs. But I didn't feel awful lot of progress happening with Kasai Jan Rapunzel I mean the blue girls out which I guess is the end game. They were going for but it seemed like a pencil. And Cassandra just reiterate in their same old differences and so I would have liked. Some progress happened between them. Well I mean I feel like like you said like. They just can't get anywhere else because they like their where they can't listen or like here each other effectively anymore so I thought there was some progress with casts regarding various like I felt like he did get to her on some level Sometimes I think it was a little bit of progress made with that but yeah like nothing really happened like to heal any conflicts necessarily and yeah and also the blues out now like I'm so freaked out about. She's so scary. I thought she was so scary. A CISCO doesn't think she's that scary Lewis he's like oh she's a dumb villain but it was remind me of the baby had from gravity falls footer out and her evil smile gives me chills. It's so I didn't think she was very scary. Up to this point but in this episode she does a lot more smiling and her smile is not a good look no and then she comes out and Alex Gray and creepy and give us not not fun so overall this was it was. It was a good episode. The action was really cool. There is some good funny pirates. We did get some Eugene and repeal progress on their proposal so I will. I did like that. They didn't officially make it official. Though did they just happened. I think they wanted to let things settle down a bit. I but this is the time at the climax. Be Like Hey baby you could die literally tomorrow. Let's get engaged. I feel like they know that they are though because they were both going to propose. So I mean if you're asking the other than tech exactly this just put the rings on so that was nice overall. I think I I like to do as a good episode it. I still think the season two midseason finale might be my favorite of the mid season finale. But this was a really cool action packed episode And Varian and Cassandra Song is definitely Super good yet. It is awesome. Okay so I- three minutes before I leave to wrap up right now all right. Our next stop isn't anywhere. Our next stop is going to be race to the spire. Repel an old friend. Calliope race to the spire in an attempt to stop cast from acquiring a deadly weapon. Oh it's Kelly up. It's the one that you hate. One is she. She's the one from the bear episode where they had to go find that piece of the scroll and like the museum. He perspire much. So I'm excited to be reintroduced to her and unexcited that they're still on the cast trail. It'll be interested so we will see you guys next week. You can continue the conversation with us on twitter at Corner podcast or by emailing conversation at a dot com. If you're enjoying the podcast will free to tell everyone you know about it and leave. Us Vice Review wherever you listen to podcasts. Chris yes we love to hear and thank you so much for listening until next time Don't free and he goes girls with a weird incantation if you have any conflict with your friends just seeing a three minute power ballad. Exactly five for now.

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Season 3 review (CHAOTIC) - Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure

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Season 3 review (CHAOTIC) - Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure

"Hey guys are you ready to have a corona conversation? Are you ready? Captain who lives in a kingdom nets conquer Rhoda Krona. Who is best friend? Also their guts. Cass SONDRA HEY everybody boy supposedly working as an sad right before we started recording. Guys this is kind of a weird time in the world. What with the corona virus going around and this is a corona conversations. Podcast WE LEAN into that. Oh I thought it's just so crazy but this thing started gaining serious traction right after the show ended we missed the chance to GET THAT CORONA. Promo like you know too late now but and I are both back in our parents home now. We moved out of the dorms. Both of us this weekend kicks out guys out of five. Am flight and I booked at the same day. It was very stressful. Never never hopefully just hold this pay me but I think it might. Lucy just WANNA get close to our marvelous. Now's Oh okay. So if there's a lot of background noise sky basically. Somebody said that the only time she has to record today is which is also organized in her closet. I'm staying with my sister. And she said that. I have to organize certain time and I had a discussion post. I had to get done too. So there's just a lot been going on. Oh Yeah I have this ornament to this Christmas stuff I do. You have a Christmas ornament. One of my friends and I almost forgot almost Christmas tree but so fi roommate was packing it up here. You go and I was like. Oh yeah this so. If this episode is a little chaotic will more than usual? At least. That's why she is professional. Last time I feel like the show is over now. We can all be a little more lax but yeah. That's kind of what's going on in our world we we've moved home for the foreseeable future. I guess how all just tell fall in my cases. Hopefully it's only a few months because I'm going to get a job because I'm graduating. Inmate will probably be like a virtual graduation. We'll put on our graduation caps in front of the Webcam and pretend to walk together For classes but in this case I guess she is second to fall pretty much living with her parents. Six seven months seven months. That's not a home in a while. She's GonNa come out of here being such a a neat Prim and proper youngster disciplined and ready to go numb more wild parties for her. No but Yes we recorded in person now for the first time in a while I still can't believe I'm here. Still feels like a dream. Your dream in Corona virus is just a figment of your imagination. Wake up and be safe and snug in your dorm. I miss my friend guys while I'm I just showed up today. And she misses her friends. Know nothing about. Oh so happy to see you. Caleb Oh my goodness. I'm so glad you're here anyway. Today is not about our relationship. Dynamic today is about season three vote we are going to be kind of going through each episode of the season Just hitting the highs and lows And then at the end kind of a little I guess ranking of kind of how we feel about the season as a whole so without further ado let get Gygi with a. I just thought of the laptop almost fell off my lap. You're quite right no I WANNA watch. Great ex- play watching so long a stellar stellar stellar. Does another country hit country accent like a British country accent anyway So the season started off with Republicans. Return you know a very the titles. It's always interesting. I love to see how they name episodes because it can be so cool but with this one is just very straightforward or puzzles return. You know the season was back or starting. The show was back so repulsed return. You Know Nice. Nice and easy So basically she comes back after all the drama that went down in the end of last season and she gets packed corona to find it has been taken over by various and his Friends but I mean they're not really friends because they kind of double cross them but everybody's just been. Yeah so basically. After all that trauma with cast rapunzel wanted to come home and get that off her mind and I guess she does have a chance to get it off her mind but that's because more trauma happens so her parents get their minds raised Everyone in the kingdom is trapped. I mean Yeah. I don't I mean I remember this episode being really cool because we got to see all those villains again and the show US some really great side villains like lady. Cain love her Over she kinda scares me but dressed up as lady Kane and then sneak in his bedroom. Tonight what hello. It's me I coupon guys. Wow is coming out. I was hoping I would have to edit as much since we were in one place so I don't mess with different levels and everything and I probably won't 'cause I have a lot to do today. So you're gonNA very unfiltered conversation and we had. I assume we had some songs. Because it was the premier Chind counter. Remember here. Let me see very. This was so very had been gone. The whole of the second season basically being evil or whatever And then in this one he comes back as evil guy and then he gets redeemed in one episode. Which is kind of interesting when you think about how cast had a whole season of being evil and various only got you know one episode early but he also has really bad boy. Look you know that was cool? So this is a really has stopped. Now we're going to have to do a siren shock review where we do some singing. But here's a sneak preview. She almost went. Stop now. Whatever it is that you're gonNA weed through a fix it together me and you just like we've always know this has to stop now this thing where you think that you've been my friend and don't even hear how you condescend the way you've always done. Casandra. I'm listening. No this isn't true isn't it look into my eyes and Oh perhaps I don So that was such a course on to kick off. The season is here. Ignore the dog. Can they hear the click clack so that song happened and then also I believe stronger than ever before happened at the end? I think who knows what still though. We're not quite through. Yeah we had so much to do to smell this weird. I love cooking the best thing for my dentist and it was free so I guess I'll keep it. Wow Okay bring it back. Bring it. Back is so those two songs happened. I'm pretty sure they're only to you. I don't know where we're not the most organized today. Please forgive US alone anyway okay. So that was a double length episode. What any any thoughts about that Ana any? I remember thinking that it was good and of course. The songs were epic. But I I kinda cheated that the whole varian thing wrapped up so quickly just because I wanted him and Cassandra to be together well he'd already had some like evilness before that they were able together. I mean they didn't get to sing a song but he wasn't evil at the time it was. It was interesting next the third episode. We have return of the king. This one was kind of interesting because the Cancun had just had their minds wiped and so from the title. You might expect that it was about King Fred. Getting you know his his Mojo back but no it was about King Edmund coming to pay you visit even though you know they had just been at the dark kingdom and this was only the second episode a lot of good. Yeah it was. It was a fun. One King. Edmund is so great We know all about the guy who plays his voice and you do too. If you listen to Chris Sonnenberg that we did last week. If you haven't go listened to that episode because it was a lot of fun and we get a lot of chrome moments in this episode to and I think this is where the reveal happens that his real name is horace or was that last season. No it was well. No I think this episode. I thought that when you jeans like no yeah. Yeah yeah this is the Eugene learns more biological family including his birthday. I'm having been horace so yeah This is a great one. It was so cool. Give an Eugene yet. Another name especially named Mike Horace. We see a little more of the ghost girl. If you'll remember early in the season we always got like the little scene of Cassandra and the ghost at the end of every episode. Just doing their thing. So this was. This was a fun. One great to see you gene. And His dad bonding and they're both great characters so this was a great episode. You Know A. Plus. Ooh Okay. Now the next one. The third episode is. Who's afraid of the big bad wolf? This was hazy. One especially for poor red meat. Catalina yeah her I remember Catalina. But I always forget curious. I know must anoma girls care. Catalina snits Yeah this was a wild one it. Basically Catalina has a power to turn into aware wolf and the Werewolf Hunter comes and Rapunzel has to try to fend her off because she doesn't want the Werewolf to be murdered because she knows it's one of her citizens. It was a nice one tau scary. It not necessarily scary but really mysterious. And kind of a whodunit type VIBE. Because you don't know who the Werewolf visit. I kind of mysterious. This is actually the episode where we get to learn their real names or Kira and Catalina. This was a big season for names. So that's cool Boxer Abaga Michael. So yeah fun episode really cool. It's whole thing about there. Being powers in Catalina being able to turn into a Werewolf and then she keeps doing it the whole rest of the season. I mean it is what it is I guess should a werewolf the rest of her life and the show. Just one hundred did that. So Oh that'd be kind of scary. When she had a spouse like then she goes through puberty and like her body changes like the Werewolf part. Come out more. I don't know plants will have to deal with that. Because he's that is. Sometimes we all sprout tails and we get clause day US. There is the of the wolf children when she had learned keeper Wolf inside except for a year and then he's still phone level for some reason. I'd be scared. He likes danger. Oh yeah okay Fourth episode is my favorite and the one Anna hates the lost treasure occurs sewn the treasure hunt not third all team up and Feld Spar Hustle. Form the Dream Team. That's the real team awesome right there. Feld Sparta Rapunzel. He really shines. I love him so much. Orange Donna again. He's great but this episode was definitely the funniest one of the whole show. I get safe to save for me at least and to know the funniest one is when what's his what's his name. The guy the seals the ky-ko's back and he tries to tries to kidnap Arianna Alabama funniest. Oh sales shoes wrong everyone. This was the funniest episode officially chronic conversations. Has This not with me And this was a nice one to because we haven't really seen a ton of the citizens in the season and this gave everyone a chance to come together and pitch in to work toward a common goal there. Some great moments in action moments a lot of humor a lot of references like Mary poppins with Old Lady. Crowley this was yeah highlight definitely a highlight of the season for me. I think I like it. Better on perfection. But throughout I've ever and varian bonding with the Blacksmith Goner. Whatever the that was so sweet. Yeah Yeah Yeah Him. This episode mad move on the next one. The fifth episode. No time like the past. Oh I can't believe this is the one where Rapunzel goes back in time and messes with. Eugene's mind Oh yeah and then. She gets to see baby backs so weird. This is a strange episode. I remember that a lot of fans online were really rag on puzzle and I was too because she just messes with Eugene's feelings and emotions and dozen ever tell them about it and as just really me and my team forever I guess it kind of goes with the whole theme of the season being pennzoil thinking she so perfect and can't do anything wrong. And then Cassandra you know being the one who is the opposite of that Sir. County goes and the theme looking back. I don't I don't really remember it being super good. Though I mean I made it was cool teenage Jambalaya. They acted I remember. Like kind of the exact same. So it's like okay. What's the point? Yeah well she was. The point was that she was having a without him letting go for friendship. Everyone else have heart and letting over to all right. So there's that one then we get beginnings the seven episode. Where Oh that's where she tells. Gnashing CASSANDRA became friends at an interesting one because we get the other maybe gets introduced into the choir. Aren't you making fun of my boyfriend? And she's like. I'm going to go to some indy now. Yeah Yeah it's the one where they enter the warrior woman contests all the princesses come from the other. That was dumbs. I hope that's my dream of our casts rain. No she's an errand with on and Elsa being their captain of the guard he's got our own cannon okay. Christoph also This one I don't know it felt like we got a whole season of calves and rapunzel learning to be friends so I felt a little weird. Do a flashback episode at this point to me I didn't feel like I learned anything new about them because we already knew how different they were like. When the show started it introduced causes. A new characters had to show them becoming friends and soda do that and another episode. I duNno I goes part of her grieving process though. I guess but yeah not one of my favorites the sixth or the eighth hour up to the eighth we're booking the eighth episode is the King and Queen of Hearts this is the one with the sunniest one because the crazy king 'cause back with like we should marry me. I have the Navy Seals ensure joke God knows and then it wasn't like I don't know what they're caught. It was originally but Fred's hand. He's Eric Yeah so. We finally go back to visit repels parents memory loss. was eight episodes since they lost their memory and they had never been episode since then. I'm pretty sure so. We were all kind of feeling confused about that and so they get a whole episode to themselves now. It was really cute seeing them reconnect. That was really nice. The whole part with the seals and the king steal her affections. And the like the Muncie Monster Egg. I mean I don't know about all that stuff but I did like the parents reconnecting. That was sweet. And then then Eugene and re Pencil to sign their own bigalow. Yeah the buck. Yeah that was. That was a nice moment After that Oh we get the day of the animals it is. Oh yeah that was a funny one too. Was that the one where Dwayne Okay that was the dwayne one. Okay I remember really liking that one. Because that's the one where Rapunzel goes cheddar funding. She's like woop is just something upside down. Sheds super funny saying that. I really like I wrote it down somewhere. 'cause I liked it so much. Swept Fair is all mothers school me to me in the sky we will just one person not all these. Google Well guys I guess. I didn't write it down. But I know it. This is the episode where Pennzoil and cure and Catalina unvarying are all trapped in the little thing and so they have a lot of funny moments together. I remember yeah I liked all the SAS. That care was giving. Yeah Dwayne like he was a funny guy steal anything again. If you if you remember what Rapunzel said definitely tweet us like woop is just something backward or doom is just. I duNNo. It was something really funny and positive like stupidly positive. It was very memorable it is. It's been a while this aired in October of last year. Yeah so. They're the animals after that the tenth episode. Be Very Afraid. I think wait was this. This was not the midseason this. Oh okay this was the one where the this is a weird one. Where CASSANDRA had like the new strain of rocks made people see their worst fear. Awesome Song you know better. You'll Bergara out of his big solo in this episode Not My favorite song. But I love the little Animated shows animated but this was a particularly animated song with everyone seeing their fears. And everything I I don't know I don't remember. This'll be particularly one of my favorites and like the rocks. Never come back and get cat here on every now and dump it on me after lots of Catholics. Be Okay after that. Oh We got Pascal Dragon. This one was also pretty crazy Dragons are reeling. I mean we knew mermaids were real so I mean everything is real in Corona. I wonder if as Mermaid called teach. This is a cute one. I mean pal. You remember to sorry when her canned or Hoke foot fell in love with said merv thinking of I wonder if together craziness so pascal meets his baby dragon friend and then the dragon grows up and he has to decide between the his new friend pass. Does he name the Dragon? I Dunno big little big guy right something like that is a wacky episode. I I didn't love it that much but it was kind of fun seeing Pascal Into Dragon. I think Chris like explains parallels between like what was going on the story at the time and just this little like moment that Pascal shared between little bit Guy Himself. There was like some interesting stuff. Going on all So yeah I mean next. Up is the twelfth episode islands apart this was the one where Rapunzel Nujaine get a message from owl. I think this is the first time. Owl comes back. I keep using the show since Cassandra left And he basically tells them that some. Something's going on on the island of the lorgues those wonderful and the captain of the Guard who went to look for Kosan no he went to look for Pun Elliott. He went to look for puzzle when the king was taken over by variant. I think and then he found out about chaos or did he already find out about cussing he was going to cost confronted cast member and then she was like he tried well he he went to look for her and she's like go out for you. Okay I'M GONNA go out on the silent and so he hides on the weird magic island and makes a weird creepy version of casts. This was a coup up so because of how creepy like the little cast was like Rapunzel is convinced she was going to murder someone like they were standing on the edge of the cliff. Remember really throw it was Kinda cool. How creepy it was And it was interesting seeing how the CASTORAMA affected not only Rapunzel by her father who I mean is closer to her than Rapunzel arguably because he's known her longer any raised her really hard for him and it was. It was funny at the end scene. All the different versions of cast fighting and like I think one of talk trash Eugene like oh I thought you two would be broken up by now so that was fun and then this with a long haul then after this. We have the midseason finale. I think maybe not is wait. Cassandra's revenge wasn't that the mid season finale August. She clearly doesn't know I think it probably was. I WANNA say So basically re puzzle feels ready to settle down. And she's back in her normal live. And then Cassandra finally makes it back to corona after all this time and this is when they have their big battle. This is when we get nothing left to lose. I believe it is the midseason trolley. Oh Yeah Yeah and we get the girl who has everything in this episode to okay. Focus Focus said to girl who has everything well when he wears this ring then Have a singing this on the drive. There's like a three hour drive from my school back home and I literally just put on my musical playlist and I was like horse by the end of the jobs. My voice sounds weird. That's why this episode I. The songs were amazing varian and having that do wet was just incredible. I like who? She just handed me something garage. Does anyone else have a cat? Who LIKES TO LAYING CLOSETS? Because it's do people have cats in corona. Have we ever seen a cat? I encourage member the cats and kitties half the series overrun with captain kids Yes and this is. What did you think of that The songs are really awesome. The whole battle between Kastner pundits. Nice I just remember being a little dumb because I felt like nothing had really changed between them like they had their fight in it but as far as I remember like we're still at the same corona. They still the same kind of mental place. I guess they weren't really getting anywhere so I felt like for amid Caesar Finale. With the double length we should have gotten some kind of forward progress on their storyline. Maybe we did. Maybe I'm forgetting about it. I don't no. I don't remember any but the songs are great anything to add. Okay I guess we know who showed have to this. I think she got her mind. Why guys is very amid hanging around you doing I need. I never goes man to swimsuit. Tops out goodbye. Invites you one after three bikini tops for that just reading some Trivia about this episode? This was where it was officially confirmed that no one besides casts could see or hear the enchanted girl. Oh yeah that was. This was the episode of me in check so creepy weird which is like we learned the real age of Eugene. Now you have to show me every grossing in your closet. Can you talk lately half this series overrun with clothing? Keep Small and the whole okay. I'm going to close this door. We don't get any interruption. Lizzy come on the whole Thing between varian trying to talk cast backed her sensitive. Just because you know he'd been not an exact same place obviously but he had been on the wrong side of the law. Shall we say the law being refunds? let's take a short break and we'll be back soon with more season three. Hey if pennzoil started a podcast what would it be about painting or lizards? How about Eugene definitely crime or a beauty products Zahn teary how to manipulate your enemies. Toews would all be awesome podcast ideas and the best way for them to start up their podcasts anchor anchor is a one stop shop for recording hosting and distributing your podcast. Best of all. It's one hundred percent free and ridiculously easy to use. And now anger can match you with great sponsors. Who want to advertise on your podcast. That means you can get paid to podcast right away. In fact that's what we're doing right now by reading this Ad. Wow so if you WANNA make a podcast about painting or skin care or emotionally manipulated ghosts go to anchor dot. Fm Slash start to join us and the diverse community of podcasters already using anchor that anchor dot FM slash start. Then we get race to these spire the return of Colli P. I loved Colli appear in this episode. I didn't I remember not liking her as much when she first appeared. But I really liked her in this. Yeah so basically is on teary. Took over with the magic cloak and pretended to be cal. Client be And refunds on gene had to chase after cascades cast wanted to get like a deadly weapon that could use against the kingdom. This oh interesting episode. It was it was like like the bad and the good like we're in direct conflict but it was also kind of fun because Ontario was pretend to be quiet. Be So it's Kinda like more wacky battle I guess about of the mind I remember kind of a Cassandra to have been the one to pretend to be a client B. because it'd be interesting to have her back with the group but then not knowing So I think that was kind of a missed opportunity that I would have liked to have seen but then I they I mean obviously. They probably knew at this point that she would return. I mean yeah. Basically she uses the same cloak to rejoin the kingdom near the end. So I mean I guess that makes sense that she wasn't the one to do it in this but it was a fun one then we get a tale of two sisters which we were hoping would be about Queen Arianna and willow but instead it kind of played on the relationship that wraps and cast have. Which is they were. Both I mean reponsible was raised by Gotham. I guess I mean you could argue if she was really raised by her because she did not really raise her but she grew up with her and cast also kind of grew up with her. I guess we never really got. I would argue that. That repentance was raised by mother. Gotham wedding cast was though. Because we don't really know that I as far as I'm aware cast is Goth. Does biological daughter the question. I wanted to ask Chris but we didn't get time to and if that's the case then she lived with Gospel all up until I mean she was probably like eight or nine. At least that's a long time. Well she could sweep the foreign make dinner and sing songs. Well that's because he was an incredible. Anyway they were both they both have mom issues with Gotham. So this episode Tara Pencil to read how to brush her long hair. How close how to cook how to do. A lot of life skills aren't they? She raised her more and she was with her longer. That she also didn't even sleep in the same house. Tau Yeah should. She slept godless up in the tower and things. So okay I guess you Heidi now what are you talking about? Okay yeah I guess yeah so. It was cool to see them bond over that fact like their shared hatred of in casts case at this point. She's trying to hold onto the love forgotten. Gotha Hating rapunzel where those weird things and all all the weird gopher and things like that part but I it was closely and then bond over that and then we got the whole like they really did come back to each other and they were basically friends at the end and then that one mirror piece that our wounded all thanks to John. Teary like breaking it in half or whatever and I didn't that for Russia rated me guys This is the episode. Where is Ontario ultimate goal is spelled out which was to draw the powers of the Sanjak flour and the moonstone into herself during the equips and just Going to visit like her captors house was yeah not the whole sub sub kind of emotional layer of the sub. Sodas Really Nice. Oh yeah then. I totally our pencils go. Diamonds was trapped in there with that gasping that was really offer bonds. Yes like wow. They're really all right. What if like Casado had killed her puns on then? She dyed her hair blonde and like pretended to take her place to get everything she'd wanted like. Eugene it's me if it creepy after that we have Flynn posture which is where flint or Eugene has his identical twin basically Buster no brock brock thunder strike show valid. This is really funny episode gene episodes. We always pretty fun Brock I I don't like Brockville because he did leave Eugene to die after Eugene literally freed him so he's kind of a Douche bag but as a fun episode now is interested in seeing Augean. Light isn't sufficient workers with the captain of the guards. We like to track down my was. He captured the garden. This one hangs out. I don't know yeah he has track track him down and the law but then also who is like after compassion. Ans- from this episode onward. Eugene begins when a royal guard uniform so maybe and the barren comes back the bears like basically a superhero tonight throw rocks and stuff dude then we get once a handmaiden which is the one. Where Cassandra sneaks back with her magical Colo awkward play. She's like actually maybe she's not angry. Maybe she's just confused. There was like well if she was confused. She should tell her friends about it. Maybe it's hard to your friends about. It will even if it's hard. You should tell your friends about it. This is a really nice one. It was great to see cast secretly rejoined the group. That was funny part. Where she was doing her stretches stretches. Where did you learn the oh I just act interacting sturges from my theater. That was then and then Eugene his berries. Oh Yeah I would make the same mistake twice. What do you think happened to that handmade and who she stole her appearance? You 'cause I'm still. I thought a passer crazy This so basically the whole mirror thing happened. And then Cassandra hated wraps again in the very start this episode. She finds the broken piece of the Mir you think is Ontario would have made sure she couldn't find his Ontario just likes to litter Suzanne tears through it on the ground so cast easily found whatever I guess and so at this point Cassandra kind of starts to see at least. It's more clear that she starts to views Ontario. Someone who's not you know. Her fairy godmother it's Zawahiri is manipulating casts Quiet I've read in some of the Trivia on the wikki about this episode and it says shorty flirting with Cassandra is a reference to the movie when he flirted with Gospel. Remember that but I wouldn't but he he was like his like well all year. A tall drink of water. Sure and she was like. Oh you lug his throw it surely lot. They're cute his steals food humiliate provision and. This is the episode where variant and. Eugene make that Cass anti-castro weapon without repelled knowing about it and then it's what causes Cassandra to like the last. I feel like there's just so much back and forth in this last like half of the season like Oh they're friends. Nope just kidding all their friends. You know just getting really this time site that frustrated me toward the end like obviously we knew they were probably. GonNa you know. Get back together so just stop pulling our chain. I remember when we broke up the first time. There's a lot of friendship break up. And then she was like whatever came back together. And then we Of Getting back together. Now Cassandra says fine you want me to be the bad guy now. I'm the bad guy. The exact same words that mother. Gotham said when she finally revealed her true nature to Rapunzel in the movie. I must've been little traumatizing. Poor assange has got a lot of Gotha litter so she got those biological daughter. Who is heard? I WANNA know who is getting with Gotha. It was short short his dad. You heard it here first. I doubt they'll makes does not hang out at the shortage can get around. The boy gets around around. Luke does now now. And then we're onto the last episode guys PUGH AF in view. Please don't leave. Which was the big finale where Kaas runs them out of the kingdom then they go back and retake gas on tense defeats on Teary. Become friends again. Banish her once and for all because I do we get the amazing odd. Give anything song definitely. I think the most beautiful song in show. I'd do anything I'd do is I'd get I'd give anything I'd give anything to rewrite re-live everything new And then we also get through it all which was their big like time now to rise. Doodoo to do turn around on word play. The Piano is such a nice moment to have them regain their camaraderie in the snugly duckling which is where like it all started kind of. That's like they're safe place happily ever after reprise And we get to see what happens to most everyone varian becomes the chief scientist nerd into the King Eugene gene and Cast rides off into the sunset China. Find her place. I guess I mean we all know took away women Maybe show I don't know I I don't know what she's GonNa do guys. We will have to do an episode. We just talk about like cats and what she's doing now that'd be fun versions of what she can be doing. Whatever you think she's doing I think she's cleaning out VI- trash can right gal it up. You would not have occurred Syrian This was that this is a really cool title. You know they have really cool title. Sometimes because it's like I mean I guess I'm not exactly sure why it's in French. I mean I know Arianna like Bat on handles journal but why she thinks like. I'm going to write in French so my daughter thinks I'm cool. She's from France but it is neat how it translates to more in you which is like the theme song and everything and I was really cool. yeah I mean the finale. What can you say it was? Great was sad. Because it's the final time we see. Catalina is aware well I love to have one variant during your Gene Hampshire talk about their dads possibly go and Rugova cool. Yeah and the whole monkey thing happens which I don't still don't get why that wasn't there really because it never came back around at the end. I wanted to seize Ontario turned into a monkey but nope also we get the big final shot. Everyone in town and we get to see. The stallion has gotten together with broad. I mean it's perfect. She loves Eugene and Brock is like a worst version of version of Eugene. They can both be like I. Guess the bolt bring out the evil tendencies in each other which is bad genes face. So I mean that's a big part of it gene. Now he's got that handsome roguish smolder. You've and then lands on pressing that button. Mike goodness he is not the right person to raise and adopted two daughters he adopts cure catalina guys when he literally just messed with the monkey machine and almost ruined everything. Hey literally there. She is so immature like they practically have already raised themselves. Yes so why? Do they need him to adopt? They don't need a parent they just need a friend. There is their friend. But I mean it's I dunno surge was going off on. Oh and also way legally adopted Kirin Catalina. Well they can be honest. They need to watch out for him. I know it just seems so. Such a weird of all the details to put in about what happens. Everyone someone decided land should adopt carrying Catalina said that caring handed hostile but that is season three. Y'All overall I would say There are a lot of interesting things that happened. We got like the whole. Where will thing we got the dragon with? Pascal. The season took some creative risks. You know gave us some new content. I wish that Cassandra storyline had been a little bit better woven throughout the whole thing because I feel like in the first half I kind of lost touch of what she was feeling and why they were fighting in the first place I mean which at the end I mean you kind of realize that cast doesn't really even know herself. That's the thing but I think you know we got the episode. Where repel had the flashback to when they became friends? But I said you know we already had seen that kind of what would have been cool. I think is if instead of instead of giving us dot up. So what if we had gotten a whole episode where we just followed CASS and the enchanted girl? Unlike what their day is like by going CASS. You haven't eight am curfew. I mean not cover you wake up at eight. Am Time to throw rocks. Please please now another rock. I'm so sick of rocks. Guess what we're listening to for this training montage anyway but overall solid season As the final season you know wrapped up everything pretty nicely. I don't think I have. I mean I've got questions but I don't have any like major questions about everyone's fate. I feel like everyone finished in a good place. Yeah I'm sad. It's era but we got some good music and I like oh I thought I liked the way that repels hair. Got BACK TO THE WAY EAST BEFORE. Hatha thousand kind of a cool way to accept what it was like. How is her hair? Could it be back to Brown and Brown? They're freaking out about that. So I mean I I like the way wrapped up in a lot of ways and I like I like that. Eugene became captain of the Garden. Because then he's going to be king and then it's not going to be king though. I told you he's not a royal so he's going to be the prince he's when Rapunzel takes over from her parents which is going to be pretty soon. I feel like they're ready to retire. And she is ready to become queen. Then Eugene is GonNa be no King Horse X. Because if he was royalty no but okay then tell me why is it? King Friday and Queen Arianna because when McCurry come about if if a man commoner Mary's acquitted and they don't want him to get in too much power so they just have the prince consort or something. I think the puzzle would make you Jane Her king. I mean I believe you and realize maybe but this is not real life actually become came by because they don't want they don't want like a communist power. Okay well reponsible would not care about that. Also in the finale. We had all that cuteness between Eugene and Rapunzel being like. I think it's time one of US propose. Hello Kitty so yeah great. Great season guys. we've been going on for almost an hour now which is about what a whole season deserves so any favorites from the season any highlights. Few YOU WANNA. I really liked the reprise at the end of the meal. They all sang about how they found her. I really liked the the Co Davey. Animals are funds or says the funny thing like it's driving me crazy. I wonder I bet I bet it's our find it son sometime. Maybe next episode. I'll fight but yeah and the lost treasure being so funny. It was nice because this was the final season and we got so much. Drama was nice style one episode. Just pure comedy gold Feld Spa. I really like when they're all back in the city They returned back to the city. And they're they're all like dancing with each other and having fun like Republicans is with my aunts. And Eugene very overheated and it's like this is such a cute Song Ya pretty great music. This season I think every song I mean. We'll do separate soundcheck episode. I mean pretty much every song except for bigger than that I mean you can see I have thumbs up by every song except bigger than because it's not my favorite but every other song comes up to goes you'll be you'll bud not mine but he helps them face what's felt fear again. I Dunno spiders. Spiders has no fears. I guess cooking pork chop isn't the worst thing that one of us has done today. Princess. That's not the time. His I hope puzzle makes felts bar like her royal advisor. Something what is day job? He's a shoemaker. He's accomplished but is so clumsy. Only Ron Wagon wheel those par okay. Well guys The conversation has come to a close Season THREE ROB. You know was a little disorganized. A little messy but sometimes it's gotta be stop is going to be Casandra next. Next wasn't anywhere I next. App is going to be water. Casandra theories about what her life is like after she says peace out krona and heads out on her own. Yeah not sounds fine. I look forward to that. You guys look forward to it to continue the conversation on twitter podcast or email conversation actually dot com. You can also rate views on. I spy boy. This podcast dot com slash tangled restrictions. Believe Review Patterns. Tells time I am Caleb Anna Post.

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