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2020 Stanley Cup Final Game 5

Starcastic Remarks-The Only Dallas Stars Fan-Led Podcast

26:33 min | 5 months ago

2020 Stanley Cup Final Game 5

"All right. Well, welcome back I see I can't even I still can't say it right. Said at like twenty, five, billion times I still can't see it right. Welcome back to star cast remarks long with. Chris Chambers and Spencer. Tut's I'm Ryan Chambers. Spencer's our special guests on the podcast. Tonight. He's an old buddy of mine and he's He's a really good friend. So Spencer say hi Lord Room. And then Chris. No one likes you. Yeah I know. All right, guys. These games just keep getting more and more exciting game for was a good game until the rest Blewett and screwed us over on it. And they kept the Russel's in their pockets tonight. And guess what happened a magical thing happened We wasn't stars. Win. Stars are still the better team all series if you take away. Plays the stars are the best are the better team in every single game. and. So hopefully, whatever happened tonight. I. Imagine. They were told to chill it with the penalties because obviously called differently. So hopefully keeps going like that and stars have a little bit of hope that would be nice. They're both teams several things it on Orion and our like that should call on that. But Oh yes. Immediately quiet. Tampa definitely took advantage of the lack of calls and over time. All. Right. So the reaction to this game I did I hated the first overtime period? Honestly. And we were hanging on for dear life and you know what I'm going to go back to. The goaltenders are one of the most important things when it comes to any major sport. So, last game vessel Leschi had that huge save when we were down when we were up three two and allowed Tampa Bay to come back and win the game fired before and over time tonight. Dhabi had two huge genus. No three China saves. There one, there's one toe pick I'll still your words, Chris and then we had two more giant blocker saves that there was one instance where I thought it hit the post in the over in the first overtime and no, it didn't hit the Post Daba could just got full blast in late into the corner pool. So that. Well. So Let's talk about something that wasn't a factor in today's game as much in that was special teams. Yakuza didn't want to be in trouble again tonight. So they swallowed the whistle on everything. There's no chance get called either of those other times unless someone's head was shopped off, it seemed like it was nuts. So. Do you think they should have called those? Should've called those penalties in the first overtime. Oh, no way they did. So like if you asked her opinion I would much rather than call it the way they did tonight but they were definitely penalty compared to the other games, right So. Here's the here's the thing I was I was seeing it on twitter is there was a bunch of people who were all upset about the fact that the stars were not getting those penalties in the first overtime and it was just like we can't have it both ways. We can't sit there and complain that they're calling too many and then complain when they're not calling enough. And it's like. and. I put that in on twitter is just like I. Mean we can't complain about the rifts tonight we told them to swallow their whistles they listen to our podcast that I still haven't posted and they actually listened. It was. And we won and it was it was it was a more fun game that was an exciting game and it was absolutely epic. When it was, it was a playoff game. It was called like a Stanley Cup playoff game. It looked like a Stanley Cup playoff game. The first four games did not. They looked like regular season games the way they were officiated and this one seemed different in it seemed more high energy in it seemed grittier in it was much more fun to watch Jerry. Total I. totally forgot that it was in the bubble watching that game I totally forgot it was in the bubble. The way that game was played. It was you're exactly right Chris it felt like a Stanley Cup playoff game and so game for game four is Great Until the rest ended up. Until the recruited thank you for not screwing it up tonight I. appreciate it. How many shots on goal that we really get in the first overtime like one maybe two. Think it was officially too but. Those no overtime was very bad. The other reason we were in it was because adobe, INSA black. Play in our own, how many the the lightning got ridiculous. Yeah, we were in our defensive zone for at least fifteen of those wing. It was not good. Yeah. That was absolutely insane that whole first overtime. I'm just sitting there on my on Larry on the edge of my seat just like begging hockey guides. Please Louis praying in my head like please don't do. Volunteer there are this. Year. Yes. I was I think. It was so hard not to scream because we got like four kids here at this house right now they're sleeping and it took every ounce of my being scream out. Every ounce of my being not to say that and I didn't, and that was very proud of myself. So speaking of Corey Perry. Who a credit really go to Corey Perry Jim nill. Corey Perry Hill let's give another one point five mill. Right. He made it worth it tonight alone audience off. Yup, they give them the art Ross give him all the bonus. We need to start signing. We need to start signing a petition to resign him. I think after I think after the past two games. Yeah. The past two games three goals in two games after he had been silent the previous nineteen. I don't know about recital, but he's definitely worth so that he was definitely worth the contract we gave him this year at the very least. Okay. So this puts up an interesting point about. All the slack that Jim was getting you know for all the contracts that he signed, which included undersecretary he signed for about a million billion and a half. He signed Polski to that huge seven, million dollar deal which a lot of people were like he's a he's already thirty five why you signing up for seven, million a year, and then Corey Perry. Yeah and see that's the thing is that. Young those guys are showing up if it wasn't for the undersecretary, pass in the Colorado Avalanche series to give your onto, we wouldn't be where we are. If it wasn't for the goal eleven goals, house, we wouldn't be where we are. Now if it wasn't for the three goals in the past two games, the Corey Perry has scored we wouldn't be here now so. Again mad props to Jim Nill. He did it. All. All the people calling for nils head especially at the end of in. Season when we were on that losing streak. They look kind of silly now. This is built great I mean obviously prevails game period did not play anywhere near the way they're playing now, but this is what they were signed for. Right. We know that guys that old aren't GonNa be we'll to keep up for an entire regular season but if they can turn it on in the playoffs, that's all we cared about, and that's what we got, and that's what we've been getting or just a goal when we need timely goal the happened that's happened numerous times with both of those guys. and. I don't know what else to say. Great signing. Good. Please don't ever fire Any know any no. That was one of the things that they were talking about at the beginning of this year is Jim no on the hot seat I think I think he's fulfilled that question against. Your own over. Now but. De. I wasn't saying anything about it, but I'm definitely happy that. He's making people eat their words now so Okay so Talk about some frustrating things that I had tonight 'cause you. Spencer saw the obvious things because we were both talking about it but. Before I, go on Christie, you WanNa say something about the Klingberg haters out there because I saw you post it on facebook about it. Oh Yeah we'll just in general. I. Don't know why there's such a big fan base. If people who cling Bursa much in want him to be traded and stuff he's been outstanding. He has the second most point center team in the playoffs. He's had amazing assists timely goals. If you still hate Klingberg after these playoffs are just stupid. Like. Honestly. This ignorance healthy. He's made some some very good plays Americans like goals when wouldn't be where we were where we are now without him definitely. Doubt absolutely, no doubt. And congratulations to him for being the top goalscorer among American born players. He passed Joe Mullen tonight with that goal in the third period and Let's talk about this too because the search has done it again, they they came back again in this game and just win allegedly thought that this was over when Sergeyev scored the goal I thought okay, that's it. And then. You know I put on twitter but to be. Put on twitter as it ain't over till the FAT lady sings. But in the back of my head I was like this is over this. This series is over this game is over and you know what? I hate, don't give me hope I. Two or three times. That's the exactly I've felt. The rats are calling the games correctly now that we're going to be playing more five on five, eighty, two games now if you'll so much better. But Yeah, like House Foley ready for this to lose this I'd mentally prepared by some for it, and now all that's thrown out the window I'm going to be so sad if they lose on day. Right. It's. Here, we go again to swim. We think that the starter done they somehow seem to pull it off so. And okay. So let's talk about some of the things that we were. In the game itself specifically. So we mentioned how how good Areola Perry was all over. The is tonight. Lucky goal so Long. He was very noticeable on the ice wherever whenever there is a big scoring chance he was. One of the prime reasons for it I mean he was all over the ice and that third line. Excellent tonight. Maybe you just need to make them our second lane. Give them a little bit more a little bit more playing time so. To mentioned that fourth line tonight with a Dickinson Tomato and dowling even though that was a line that was just kind of thrown together. Of the circumstances, they did an accident absolute excellent job. It was very so I don't think they were giving given much responsibility on the first line for the bay lightning, but they were in the offensive zone and it seemed like and I noticed that several times and I was like, wow, this is one of the few lines is actually getting sustained offense of pressure or check. Great for pretty much all night long from them is it looked like FCC. So is especially good good game by Dowling, is what I thought. I'm a dowling hater but. He played hard and he played physical also. I was really having been. Never been a big fan of his, but he was really aggressive this game and. Before method, really. Well, and the thing is that commodities had his chances. He's come in in the past two games and none bigger than that giant save that under vasilevskiy hat on him. Where we could have gone up for to last game, but he's had his chances and he had his chances again today as well. So, what are the things that was really frustrating for me tonight was and I'm GonNa say it again was our exits out of our own zone. We could not get out of our own zone especially in the first overtime especially recruited escape. And yes that's true. But it wasn't just the first over time it seemed like whenever? They had. Like even like a slight bit of pressure either there is a lucky bounce for them. In like they, they happen to get their stick on it or a bounce off our skate in stayed in our zone or something like that or we just didn't work hard enough to get it out of our own zone. So the. The exit from our own zone is very frustrating and then the turnovers tonight again, there are just some dumb turnovers and it. At least from my end and I did I didn't like to see and. I was really curious and I'm just looking at it now. But the giveaways in what's funny is that they're actually showing that Tampa had one extra giveaway than the stars twenty, four to twenty three. So I don't know how that's possible. Think. That's I think. But those numbers are definitely because of tire players, right you never see twenty three and twenty four giveaways in hockey game even in the regular season so. That's some tired legs that don't WanNa move is where those giveaways are coming from. and. You know shot then golden night forty, one to thirty, three in favor of the. Lightning and I mean that's been every game. Honestly, yes. That's going to happen every game decided against the Vegas Golden Knights. But the thing that I'm really impressed with in that, we're continuing to play our game is the block shots. The block shots was thirty three to eighteen in blocked shots tonight. So. We're still sticking to that defensive game. I just wish I would see a little bit more offense going the opposite way and a little bit better exit of our own zone. That's. Earlier the first period dislike gave me hope unlike they written on the lightning zone majority of the time in the second third period they in the first overtime but right back to the second third and fourth game where the turnovers were all stars zone. Give us some comfort get out of there. Reu. holding my breath every time they put a puck anywhere near Dobie is so stressful right and and you know what? I didn't feel that way in game one, two or three. Now game four I started to feel it because we were we were down to two one in games but in game one, two and three, I didn't feel like that and especially in the past series I didn't feel like that either I felt a little bit like that in the Calgary series. But in Colorado series I didn't feel like that and the Vegas series I didn't feel like that and that was just because we were up the whole time. Now with our backs up against the walls. All that stress is coming out now. One game at a time one game at a time. If you look if you look at half to win three games in a row seems impossible. But if you just have to win the next game, it's not that hard. So let's see if they could make it one more and then at that point, anything will happen in a game seven. So. The all you got about one more win one more win. That's all you gotta you even focus on. Little. We're not learning how Really, hoping we don't go home. I wanted to game seven. Data game seven. So very crazy stat line. Everyone's talking about how Tyler Sega needs to break out in this series he her Sagan has an assist on every single goal tonight three assists and then so if he's not scoring, he's at least doing that so We can't buy this guy goal. No. I think he's accepted it actually gone through the stages like last game was denial and he's like finally reached acceptance and he's just make great passengers fifty. Also, he's also doing a lot of defense things will. Yeah when was out there we were never pin in their own zone. They are always making good passes for it's coming back to help the D. to get out of his own in that line always seemed to get us out so. That keeps you rod to Perry Sagan Line with great all night long right I. agree that was it was a great line tonight for us. So. Speaking of. Players that we hoped would bounce back. Let's I. Know We kind of hit on it but but we didn't really talk about it much was Dabi. Dabi played played. Excellent. Tonight. He I mean he only lets in two goals. And the two goals let's in. Night is fault at all. Especially, the second one is completely screened. and. Then what was the first one again? The plug go I guess could have been his fault. But in in you know that's that's an interesting thing that you can look at. Do you think there were a lot of people that were saying that Khudobin should've poke checked that puck instead of letting him go around. What do you think? Your the way w plays he doesn't really he doesn't use a stick in that way he doesn't really have an aggressive stick. So after that you noticed he started thinking about it more. So every chance he had to take a wack at the puck he did. But the way he normally plays as normally goes brings his whole body towards the puck because he's a smaller guy, he doesn't like throwing the stick out there to get a diving poke check 'cause he not big enough miserable. Literally. Jumping on top of the book I mean that's Goes as an example, what he normally does he's not. Like saying is not. Is Not good with a stick. I guess not asking really with the stick with his own body. Yeah. The Andre pilot goal was just beautiful. That's I. Mean there's nothing around it and then the circuits have goal there's no chance that he saw that unfortunately, just a seeing eye shot very lucky thorough bodies like. Started lighting bodies. Fine as. The Net, -An agency that. No way you could aim ninety, five, mile an hour one timer that will. I'm just going to whack the credit and see where it goes. Before now, he was intentional you. Here skill peer. Skill. Sometimes I. Wish we had like Shea Weber or like A. The day. No Char in have somebody's shoe two, hundred, eight miles an hour. that. He when he's when he finished the series against the Golden Knights a I, think it was a hundred ten one farmers. There's no way there's no way you can purposely be able to. I'M GONNA put it in the top left corner. Here we go. Tim also agree that. The last year easy nocco poke seventy miles per hour into the goalies neck. Would get. The same exact person. So, anyway. Dhabi had a great game and he he's going to have to be better a there. He's going to have to be better for the next two games. He's GonNa have to be our best player. You know we're all raving about how great corey period how good they again is doing in hey, skin shows up on the scoresheet again tonight, which we've been missing him but Dhabi has been our most consistent in our best player through these playoffs had any has to be when you're the winter when the the best goaltender in the league arguably who we think is the best goaltender goes down he's not able to play. He's he's got to step up and he has and he kinda laid an egg on some of those goals in game four. And he stood told tonight in, it's only going to get harder who's proven that he's up to no one is another lead. Lead goaltender which Kind of worried about when he goes up for free agent what's happened there but WE'LL SEE Let's just enjoy. For now. Because I appreciate he was really looked at it as a backup until I mean game on the the first year is. The. Out. Walking Stanley Cup final. All right. So what do we need to do in game six? Keep doing what we're doing. Save big someone's got to step up again. That's what we said. Last podcast. Someone's gotTa Steph Curry. Perry did it. He played great the whole game so Maybe. He did do it again. Maybe someone else steps up but. We're seeing throughout these throughout this playoffs that it really only takes one of our one of those top six guys that we have to take control of the game and they can go win it, and that's what happened. Tonight Corey Perry took control this game and he wanted The great first goal in a grind e scrappy very corey Perry s second goal. So Someone. Just got take control of the game and say I'm going to win it and that's how we've won all of our series. That's how we came back in the Calgary series. So I need to see that the box. Proven obviously in this game is not all us. Retz also, but we proven this game than what game on say out of the box. We get results as slapping more of that. Yup. Absolutely and you can ask, Chris this Spencer but that's been my thing like all playoffs stay at the box and in especially now more than ever that. KOMO's out. Fox's out HINTSA's. No. Penalty. Money less. Harmed carried out of the box he can actually score. That's we need this. Go. Sounds just like off. On. What. Even better fading. Sh-. Right. Speaking of the penalty kill. So let's talk about that one penalty kill. The one penalty kill we had I was scared to death. It was a shooting gallery. And it was just shot after shot after shot cross you know eastwest passes North South passes coming up to the slot in again Dobie made a huge save right in the slot dead center right in front of him Do you think that Tampa is gonNA get more than one panel. Or more than one penalty more than one power play in the next. Yes I do too. Hopefully, not completely mess this up, but I think they're going to amp up a little bit more in the next game A. And I appreciate the way they called tonight they made the obvious calls the super obvious calls and they weren't overbearing when it seemed like a penalty and it might have been a penalty they didn't call it. That's playoff hockey. Should have been done like that from the very beginning of the series. So yeah, if it's maybe a penalty. Bentley this. At least at this point at this point, normally this would be June but right now. I. Can't. Believe. Is Almost October. Thin Win. Win It. Goes against October. On A hot take hot take as call in game six to the stars game sixty the stars. Okay. All right. So all right. So let's ask that one question then do the stars win game six. Arthur. Chris, we can't hear you. All Right Chris says, yes yeah. His his his Mike Wayne out and he's shaking his head. Up and down a lot. we're. I think we're going to blow out game six. I think we're GONNA blow game six, I think this is GonNa be we're going to go after it and we're going to force a game seven and I wanNA. I WANNA see a five nothing or for nothing or or. Twelve. To I'd be okay with that and I think this is I think it's going to happen. I really do I think it's going to happen so We'll see you. See it, it would be absolutely sick and. You heard it here for me first so All right. We're GONNA leave it at that guys. All right. They listen to start after remarks. You can follow us on twitter and start casting or you can also like us on our facebook page guess Kamarck. Also, you can follow us on our Youtube Channel. We'll catch you on the flip say, goodnight.

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135: SENS ACQUIRE ANOTHER RUSSIAN, WE FIGHT ABOUT HOCKEY NIGHT IN CANADA BEING TOO PRO-TORONTO

The Steve Warne Project - Sports

58:19 min | 1 year ago

135: SENS ACQUIRE ANOTHER RUSSIAN, WE FIGHT ABOUT HOCKEY NIGHT IN CANADA BEING TOO PRO-TORONTO

"Hang on hang on I'm GonNa Coffee Stevie I can't do it everybody walk in to the S. W. P. podcast it's your daily blast of sports in whatever my name is Steve Warne Jim Jerome with me and we are assisted on the play with a sweet saucer I wanNA start to loop around digs into snack and holds it there chocolate bars don't look very good sitting in there they don't fit nope that's fine okay we'll go with the seventy five cents two dollars and seventy five cents okay you can get in as as low as nineteen seventy four a case of beer twenty four twenty four beer not shabby smoke carton of smokes now would be eight packs I think we can all agree on that you got this coil system that really should only have some sort of circle snack here's what was twenty dollars boy there's inflation Steve Doc that would fit in there properly that'd be the only one that would whatever come out okay the fact that the coil the coil digs in okay the coil digs age yet what is it five or ten bucks the option there's there's a bunch of different levels you can get in as low I believe as two dollars the salaries have gone up equally right exactly so vending machine I recall and hated the most still hate because they still exist today and you once in a while with twenties go over to Costco or something like that get him for a bucket beer okay but yet goes up to forty forty five bucks so that's a hundred so that's one hundred and sixty five dollars one twenty for a carton of smokes and twenty four beers is at fifty bucks I don't know two four beer you can get them as you can get them as low as like high when used them anymore because I think my batting average on those things is around five hundred I'd say one out of every two I would get and then the other would be jammed up in the dreaded coil they all jam up no one is that exists still who's looking at okay there's a design flaw here we can talk about you know about about two feet you gotta roll I remember those remember those yeah my dad was a hardcore Belvedere smoker back in the damage ended up things are fine man how great thanks it's you can sign up for the Patrie on take watch this put your money in here comes you spend what the chips are coming out near face here they come to come right toward you bang and they stop and they sit there fifteen per so there's one hundred one hundred twenty dollars eight five hundred fifty five and been paying that close attention story one twenty the big toggles on them this giant machines vending machines for cigarettes. You pump the coins in rip those things and then you pull this vending machines is super close to like a snack bar or something and there's an actual cashier there so you lost your money so you wander over hey can I get my money back and every time someone would be standing there leaning on the machine waiting for the whoever the manager was that night to come down and open the machine give me needs you know who worked for hostess or whatever probably coming back to work each day going you know those chips don't fit very well and that coil okay okay have you seen these freaking things I almost bywater Steve just to see it goes like summer from Nassau invented this now the machines there there's little little see cigarettes vending that way is that stupid coil effect just with what are they gonna fix that with those not stress you out I refused he the the airfield stuffed bag of chips to just get up at all I think nothing will ever happen bad there packages smokes nice yeah you could you could you can get in for to go one of those old cigarette machine stevie didn't smoke but different live like if we still were sitting around watching TV with that giant TV remote that had a wire all those little white buttons on it or something like tat like that low that level of low tech. I mean it's ridiculous yeah totally yeah I got I don't know I go to uh you know I'm a I'm a Tim Hortons guy you know and I go in there and you can do everything on your phone right even even probably not so much a design flaw as it is the guy filling it up just doesn't crap yeah it's like and then the other thing is usually one of the they're going through the motions and if you know if three or four get caught up in the coil of death I think are generally okay with that it probably does L. Bag thing okay that doesn't work okay so this is the equivalent that the coil of death still exists as a vending machine it's the you own the machine for example or whoever you know I always think of the university the UNICENTER at Carlton there was a bunch of machines behind the wall of the snooker room where we played says I've always looked at two things twenty dollars twenty dollars back then got me a carton of cigarettes and ugh kicking up yeah but but something like airports stevie look at some of these vending machines they got going on you know malted milk bar six you know stevie all those other ones that were around you know so you arcades rush it off Amazon you can cook meals you can lock your house you can you know kick the dog all the Shit you can do with your phone is incredible you know you know it's funny because people will send stuff back from retro stuff I often see what's your favorite chocolate bar from back when stuff to today I did eight hundred ten bags of chips and all of them not working very well so well have you ever watched anybody host Steve Have you been to a vending machine that does drinks does cold drinks okay all of them are plastic bottles now okay summer the cans some of the coke ball and the etiquette that I never quite got was I beyond their I'd be playing a game and I've got like my roller quarters ready to roll and so I take my quarter and put it in and before you even start playing some of the Little Schlep rock comes sidling up beside me and goes like Sylvester stallone cliff hanger at the start of that movie he just hanging there what do you let go I'm sure there's gotta be a bunch of people who the town right yeah that was a pool move that was a bar bar pool move right where you put your you put your looney up like some of those some of those other vending machines to anyway I bring I digress a little bit with the phone stuff you can run your day right from your phone start your car you can you know about prices okay it was one that thing it's so good we're not going to change it over the next sixty years that don't have you been to as these these guys said you know what we this thing was cool the guy who designed this won the Nobel Prize in one thousand nine hundred eighty four for vending machine design okay that's a category just things the coil of death is got my bag of chips there like every single time nope not my problem buddy not my deal compare that Steve so these Dole backer like so you got those people are going hey this machine is at work and it's it's a bit of a hassle and then you've got the guys whose stuff the spoil well that's good thank you but I mean I I grew up in Richmond Ontario and take me on all right that transferred to pinball and video games too yeah I'm the same if I'm playing that thing I fuck Outta here get Outta here yeah I sat down for a second I was loading my machine separate the whites from the Color Steve and I turn my back for one second and it's totally entertaining you know she'd be like some carnival music going along with it or something yeah finding it was the guy who said you know what we've been stuffing bottles in that and some guy just took it upon himself to throw his shit in there at the same time oh I might as well do it together let's not in that quarter down or something like no I don't think so back away I don't care if people I used to do the laundry Mat Steve and you in an arcade called shakes arcade so it had the standard deals had pool it had video games and Ed people were lined up for the pacman machine I remember at Oliver's God yet right where the thing was laid flat screen was flat right didn't that was the first sort of and those are from the show she became a superstar on Friday mornings. NFL Handy Capping Legend yes she she was and anyway my mother right here yeah look at slide slide in your credit card here and you can buy a frigging beats headset you can buy some ear plugs for me you want some all your stuff's getting on my stuff I don't care if it's going to rinse away later it's the principle of the thing and that applies to hot tubs to I'll tell you a fantastic caught up story of smoke in these days but yeah yeah every once in a while you know let me put the money in and pull the lever I was like this is cool yeah I'm thinking back to those days when my brother was alive and we were we were living in the hunt clump a cleric court is recalled and my mother used to other berry whose everyone's come to love over the last fifteen years and she died in two thousand twelve she was eighty years old and of course leads if you want unless you want to go for the two hundred dollar heads or it's crazy it's crazy shit you can get vending machine they seem to figure it out boys no coils like I don't think so sir I don't know what I don't know maybe this is some sort of arcade etiquette but I have no interest in following along I've got a roll of quarters here and I'm going okay at the bottom and and you're looking at these these drinks going how's this GonNa Work Right you put the money in this the trade routes visit run your quarters or whatever it was back in the day Yep you're playing a guy the winner stays on it's like an old western right what yeah I'm one here is going Jim Jim Good God look what's going on in the backyard Mike people making on Hot Tub in my dad's like hey berry come on you told the kid overhaul we're never home right you couldn't you couldn't get out quick enough that night right regard this as in university was out every single night and and like my kids are now I'm playing this thing what if the laundromat or something I'm getting the Duvivier or something Washington and I've got ten of them to do and some Schlep rock comes up and up to the top visit grabs the bottle lies on the drapes down across and spits it out like this this is amazing and it's very entertaining really we in arcade guy back in the day like just standard when video games were just coming out you pacman and all that and it wasn't like crazy backyard right whale and back beers everyone's jumping in and out of the hot tub and my mother's you know looks out the window ought w she put it up for sale at four o'clock that afternoon through the winter cover on the pool that we none of that any more God bless my mother she was hilarious in this cesspool it's the same thing that you're sharing closer you're throwing your underwear in their God knows where that's been I know exactly where that's been and now it's not she goes well I guess the next the next morning my mother is out there draining the hot TUB Steve and shock coronation Toronto right now well that's right Steve Way to play along you're doing a good job right there so we're GonNa talk about how the CBC is letting same with hot tubs and stuff people jump into hot tubs like I feel like I'm having a bath with you now now all are now the duck that's on our bodies we shared in this chips during the big game but what if your snacks could be delicious and healthy as well Popeye supplements has you covered with amazing snacks like protein popcorn cookies chips gumy's and more oh no you look like you come from the planet of the fucking dirt you're not get away from me okay planet of the dirt of your new Ford Suv from Jim Kaye Ford their entire lineup of SUV's offers four wheel drive or all wheel drive capability and right now get a no I think typical of a lot of mothers you know we were in our late teens early early twenties going to university and I was I was never home stevie ever you know my brother go to see a four people in the hot tub like two couples and and they're making out in the hot tub right my looks stra charge winter performance package including tires rims and sensors with purchaser lease of most new twenty nineteen Ford Suv models then puts his quarter down right on top of the machine and that automatically means he gets to play after I'm done this game and Act Todd Longtime Montreal Gazette writer I forget exactly where he's writing now to be honest and I think it was with the National Post and he put it away and switch to all Insurance Ontario get personalized one to one service from dedicated broker you can text or call it anytime real people solid advice great do that you know and my brothers decides to do it one night my parents were out and they come home there's you know there's a huge bash going on rates visit all ends dot ca or tech six one three eight six zero six zero zero eight all insurance Ontario. Your modern boutique broker interesting article by Jesse relation is and that's where the most hockey fans are mostly fans are but Jack Todd put it out there basically you know showing exactly where things are at with the CBC because of course now it's affiliated with Sports Net and Canadian the Montreal Canadians only going to be on CBC six times this year it she's been trying to say to my brother the same it's so great yet a bunch of kids over you know she's they don't my my son Jake I don't see him you know he's just never hold because he's never home and we were like that too my mother was saying we had a pool in the back and everybody went crazy and they went crazy for a reason because there certainly is a pro Toronto bias because that is where the money is that's where the most bring all your gang back to the house one night you know instead of going to the bar all the time and have a party here your father and I will stay out of the way and why you feel extra confident on the snowy roads this season Jim k four d'youville drive in Orleans tired of feeling like you and your insurance company on different teams will trade see that article well here's what we're not GONNA do this year Steve Hockey season's kicked off okay you're GonNa hate aren't you can't go down there and I'll leave him alone she goes well this just never you know and my dad's go just relaxed very it'll be fine because a lot of people making healthy and still delicious gotTa love it Popeye Settlements six Ottawa locations or Papa is Canada Dot Com when you start to feel a chill in the air you can relax behind the wheel excellent launching into the show today with the meat of the sports and all that in that we've got coming up shortly discussion about how the CBC and An interesting article about hockey night in Canada being more like hockey night in Toronto and we've certainly felt this way in Ottawa for a long time to the point Jim correct me like five billion yeah okay five twelve years five something billion in change right so you on the national game including the four games the haves are playing against the leafs CBC GONNA show one game featuring the haves against Florida and one versus the in here okay it looks like you haven't watched close in five hundred years you know what you do your stuff getting mine know exactly and I for a guy who's in the business that we're you know that there's more people in the TV pays more attention to the leaves the sports shows a more attention to leave CBC does stations do people cheering like mad when they travel on the road and all that stuff you gotta understand something big bucks of chlorine into the pool was I am not getting in there until I don't use on Philip one of those things they don't exactly do it with the greatest of care right WH- When you've watched somebody do that and they probably don about one hundred that day already us with the Matthews the minor deal and Taveras and all that shit so fear Fan of the team you'll love it right what we're not GONNA do Steve is or you know because it's a Canadian team well here's the deal let's go back to the five billion that those guys spent so when you're selling I'm stating the obvious here when you're selling ads for that game when you're getting sponsorships television radio print otherwise okay even you alluded to it but but it's a fact so who paid the big deal was at Rogers the two billion for the TV deal chart hot tub and my mother was I remember telling my brother Joey my mother was saying well why don't you have to go out look at what you bring James Okay it's just a fact okay that's the fact of the matter so some people go that's fine but it CBC and I should be able to watch winnipeg against many correct me if I'm wrong james the CBC is taxpayer funded right yes it is exclusively funded by taxpayers in the city any where we had a very successful April fool's Day joke about a senator's playoff series being completely blacked out because the leafs add to be shown in Ottawa Cobb out in a very naive way that this Guy Jack Todd I think I think it's the dumbest article I've ever heard I've read aging ten times as much okay and these guys got five billion in this thing and and that's just the case that's just the way it is so advertising rate is established okay you got a radio show that has a million listeners compared to a radio show that has fifty thousand okay Canadians with their blue team bias that's GonNa shortly show is brought to you by Popeye supplements we all tend to feel a little guilty after we pound back giant bag it's headline these days amongst us who recall the great days Danny Gallivan Spinner Emma days on hockey night in Canada has become little more than digital or video game Galarraga was another big one that guy's place nope the league and for the NHL. Well I think todd comes at it from you know Montreal perspective I think if you're an auto a fan or a winnipeg fan it's kind of a due to the fact that there's there's more people in Southern Ontario first of all okay so the population is bigger the viewership belief games is much higher than than any other separate a private entity like sports net from the CBC I don't think these two should ever have been in bed together financially to make this TV deal go that you know it's an interesting point because Montreal Edmonton they wanna Combine Fifteen Stanley Cup since Toronto held its last Stanley Cup parade so what did you Ottawa senators and so basically most Canadian teams are generally getting shut out including like Montreal and Edmonton Jack Todd says not you're right there is and there always will be always will be Steve so the this guy writing that article beliefs alright Evans holding up their end of that they've been doing that for years their their devotedly Steve Right the the the group of leave haters is just John How many people are listening it's based on how many people by the newspaper it's based on how many people hit the site okay that click on the site so that's how the because the CBC is meant to be above salesmanship but it never has been not lately anyway not in the last few decades you know they're right in there radio guy that you know there's no taxpayer money coming into private radio and yet CBC is on the street fighting us for the same advertising dollars equal pay for equal work shit that the women are trying to talk about and soccer that we don't get the same thing and I believe this is the equivalent public relations outlet for the Toronto Maple leaves no no it hasn't it's become a business model for the CBC and and for dropped from the mainstream sports coverage because it's just ridiculous for people to think that I should be able to watch as many women's soccer go down this road every six weeks every three or four weeks with people coming forward with disgust that there's more coverage of the Toronto Maple leafs than any other business well this thing is is is tantamount comparing this to something else okay this thing is the equivalent you have to grin and bear it somewhat because it just isn't the fan base for those two teams across the nation that exists like it does for Montreal Toronto so nation I don't know if it's as strong as Toronto but it's pretty damn close and so the disparity between Montreal and Toronto I guess I see where he's coming from to some degree and also think we need to see and for TSN absolutely tsn doesn't even have the rights to the leafs and they still talk mostly about beliefs and there's reason for that because it's good oh everything you talked about there I would argue would be in place somewhat from Montreal as well Canadians fans of that team they're all over the how's that fair exactly you get the taxpayer money and you get to go out and sell a crazy and now you're doing this whole thing with CBC and just you know ignoring the rest of the country gets bigger and bigger every year okay and you can always tell by if you're a fan of the leach you gotTa love what they did this year okay with with over the last couple of years we talked about it a month or two ago about the you know the crying out of women's soccer the protesting of women's soccer it's based on viewership folks all right that's how it works it's just like just like podcast and everything else it's based on downloads ed or what you think or anybody else it just is not viable when there's a bunch of more cash forget I don't care if it's taxpayers paying for the station or not Steve the first of all they're sucking the tax payers teat Enjoying that luxury and this is probably being a bitter private the rest of the country is helping keep you guys float so I get I get a little bit where Jack Todd is coming from and I certainly understand what you're saying is well for for companies like Sports mm-hmm three or four times more often than the Montreal Canadians on national CBC According to the article we saying that there are three to four times more leaf you know and the and the reason in the end is the reason that whole argument that whole coverage of that story about women protesting in soccer and the same thing in women's hockey right where they said this isn't fair we make twenty grand a year bub-bubba Blah right those those stories steve lasted about forty eight hours and we're completely a halves only get six games a specific design what they're going to cover and it's all about the Dole and energy to employing Russian hockey players will then echoed have four in their lineup for this Thursday game against Let's see your Saint Louis Blues I don't know I don't know you know todd says it's been going on for a couple of decades now so this isn't really new but for all practical purposes sports net through the not always going to be the way to pay the bills Steve It's not it's not an option it's not it's not something discretion going hey I'm a leaf fan I'm a movie guys I'd buy into what you're saying but again I think Jack Todd is talking primarily about the comparison between Montreal Toronto and the leaves are going to be on the blue team teams as should men and all that stuff and same thing with women's hockey you know it just doesn't pay it just doesn't pay and regardless of what Jack Todd producer of the of the station you know let's do the leafs because I like them fucking businessman you know again I don't think I'm comparing you know a side note the the other option is you know the the station folds if we did with the tax payer wants to do and cover a bunch of these other low audience games you know it's just like I said it's naive people to think that the Ottawa Senators have a new player kind of out of the blue yesterday and keep in mind this is a club that's had an absolute fierce serious CBC only the six times like you said I mean that's not your shit they throw against the wall or flip a coin go up to bat leaves only get six games with rounder and a defenseman minor leaguer named Nick Ebert the Rangers retain seven hundred fifty grand of domestic takeoffs four million dollar salary pass by Jim Kaye Ford Popeye supplements all Insurance Ontario and our be computing. Jimmy Hauer things today Steve You can need to stop hating the leafs that if I see a little glimmer of lights little sliver of -bility to to get on the leafs I'm going to do it or whatever it's like you know what do you think now what do you think so this this podcast continues to draw ravers views for how few commercials we actually put on the shell their views so people can talk about Scott do none of course right bills to pay indeed so while I have my concerns about the player at the same time that's not very expensive they don't really give up much and he's going to be a Ufa next summer people got to get their head around that so I don't want to spend all year you know I mean we don't but I think you get my point Yep I understand but you're never going to get do a television audience on the green and I think if you have that many fans you can have eyeballs on the screen but I don't think there's as many people watching Montreal Games are BBC has turned itself into the leash network hockey night in Canada's been dragged along You know our thanks to some power Wilkinson go pointed out the Canadians will be featured so there's a little money going out the door like three and a quarter million dollars which is a bit of a surprise that ownership is down with that because that takes them a little farther away from ends than there are than Montreal Canadian fans in this country I think that's not right like their fans all over this nation not but this has to do with fans Steve Tames I'm GonNa do it yeah it's it's equivalent people arguing that there's too many commercials on a sports broadcast or TV show or a special and they've they brought in Ford Vladislav new mess Nicole from the New York Rangers to give up a number much twenty twenty one all the one concern I have is that this is a club that's brought in a bunch of guys that have played on great lines the salary cap floor which this club has shown that doesn't like very much and so that part's a bit of a surprise but I think I liked the deal all in uh-huh anyway I should do that Gig I gotta go Steve I got to go along this show has gone on for how dare you all right good night everybody we'll see to some degree in other Canadian markets too but everybody else is starting to now locating under the microscope dissecting and going Oh my God attic I guess when you get down to what they do podcasting as well and some other things in it was just a glaring headline say Dan Snyder Maskhadov he played his big year two years ago with Stamkos and Kucherov his stock was unbelievably high and it's plummeted since he the word is out and it's it's starting to make international headlines certainly you know been on the top of everybody's mind in auto among sports fans and maybe now Steve I see you're brought up there was an article over the last few days about Eugene Melnyk now where they're pouring on saying now the guys the worst owner says by everyone that the owners crazy no good fucked up right personal problems you know team problems cheap left the line in the trade to the New York Rangers so just as sometimes you look at Ontario Hockey League guys who are overages and they're very finely you're in they have this monster year he in Tampa Alex she also on a big line with Dallas artem Anisimov who is on the big line in Chicago with Patrick Kane and now worst owner now I don't think so James Dolan forget about it the absolute worst owner in North American sports is Eugene shove a couple of guys down to the minors and you and I are both going a little bit of an overreaction isn't it that ten games odds in Tampa Bay wind the tape ahead today Steve We talked about this thing that crazy deal they moved after two games against really good teams that take it with a grain of salt and same same thing as forget for guys like domestic all because he really hasn't done much at all in New York since he left those to stop the ridiculous things that Eugene Melnyk has done over the last two three years and then so that's Big New York Post Wow and those right before they're into this rebuild shitty crappy year right right so if you're if you're if you're the guy hitting the buttons when took on the rangers and then the ringer which I believe is Bill Simmons website which is crazy popular version of the senators are going to have an awful year the other word for that Steve is rebuilt the other definition of an awful year. Okay does something like that this is ought and someone said well it's not odd and I said well yes it is it's never happened before okay this is a rarity that what is going on with this do right right so you've got that deal so now you have almost a full on consent because of this this hundred percent okay view of the sense that they should lower ticket prices that they should they should have have the media looking at this stuff saying you know the last thing we want to do right now is cover sends game because it's there I wouldn't say I would never say never in this case but I would hope he makes more than that I don't think I you know I was talking last week about and that's the consent everybody now every hundred percent of fans media guys critics everything is saying Earth type of blowing up a team right now right coincidentally when we talk about the leafs coverage on TV and media so now you're going to since was sixteen to or the announced Denzel's eleven five but we figured it was about six thousand people at the game right I mean you look at any business if a business is basically telling the world like here's a situation in Oh we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA rebuild here running to the rink the advertisers not lying lining up to get I want a piece of those sense I want to be in there I think Stevie and Tsn had the headline of the kids still all right if they're all down in Belleville with Anaheim playing with gets laugh and Perry and that's when he had all this big thirty goal seasons hasn't really come close to that Nada then he got cory conquer was on a big line it'd be usually the business plays to say yeah we're not gonNA charge as much but that's never even spoken of in pro sports yeah they're they're the worst thing ever cater that a team is in trouble is every guy I've talked to who used to be season ticket holders okay with the sends a lot of them is especially Steve especially the first two games of the year I could I could get my head around if they bring a guy up see your twenty five games deeper thirty games after a game steve is when the headlines of the talk radio stuff is well the announced attend okay so don't want when you look at this trying to suss out why deejays well this is great he's a new guy by the owner cash okay I hope he makes more than that that would seem I wouldn't deep and you bring a guy up for the miners and in over the next game or two or three the guys the guys shitty and they so they ship them out right is from from my guys anyway well so now you have everyone weighing it could be tough year for the owners crazy and all this stuff so up to last night ah the Steve is I know lots of people in Ottawa and have been talking to them over all the years of the sense the other big it is worn Z's super trivia brought to you by Silk Web Solutions Dot COM for all your web design and maintenance needs spin your web with are you are you still going to the Games and the guy they'll also yup I'm a I'm a season ticket holder but I split my tickets now with a better deal for the fan not one person in there is going to argue that the that the that I heard that the sends are going to have a good year five but let's see how you do it only been four or five fifty goals scores in the NHL can you name them since nst is in there as an adjective right to the attendance that's the play by plays secret code of we don't believe this number in the League in the League Oh yeah well I your host put something out late last week that basically just chronicling all another guy or I got we got eight guys and we all pick five games each but I used to be by all those tickets myself you know these are even leagues for eight years Sid the kid must've got fifty in these are even a lot of season ticket holders who have a write off you know who run it through the company corporate sales and even the corporate sales guys who can cover it say I just can't justify cheap is the one I hear all the time Steve Bill questioning that don't don't kid yourself that Dj Smith my guess is making three four five hundred grand a year it happens right that that can happen you gotta be really Shitty but but that can happen so there there's this over reaction that you and I've talked about that fans of talked about melnyk and then the ringer proceeded to do an even more detailed chronicling of what you gene Melnik spin up to like the secret it's not a secret really ilk I question today is since twenty eleven only want to save four there might be we're on our way we get kids here kids are all right they said I'll tsn at a great line you know because that's been their big motto leading up to the new season the kids are alright bucks to go to a game for it that sixteen grant for a pair of tickets all those people now are have laid off being a hundred percent season ticket holders they split give yeah I think I do connor certainly hasn't had fifty calling David Nope twenty eleven misery I'll go backwards you going to do in an order well I don't play along I say dry settle fifty goals last year that's probably the hardest one of the bunch people don't even realize dry settled really shouldn't even have salted I have to give you the other four the selling point of the NHL level and all the kids are you know trickling down anyway it's any business admitting that it's product isn't as good as it should with other people's right that doesn't bode well when you're when you're trying to sell your cellular fan so let's get some trivia in then I spend in the whatever it is fifteen twenty grand for a pair of tickets I was probably four hundred the teams you other teams y'all expedite things here and I'm one it is YEP got an EC- Mauve they've got Abramov's on they got that other Guy Melnik and fuck off you know that that's shit is just that just pulls you apart at the seams man trying to run a hockey team right when no one's come into the building anytime a word a noun it's time to produce and hockey games or airing them you're going to the last people were doing Canadian teams descent so that's going to harm it now the fans are not going to show up as much sued I mentioned him earlier in the show oh no way online with Bobby Ryan lovie would be another one yup he's counted for a whole mess of them in that that time span fuck pinball clemens is back we'll get to that story in just a second he's he takes over the GM role with the Toronto argonauts it Stamkos get fifty feet in well done at sixty in two thousand twelve sixty goals in twenty they don't like doing that appear here's Oh now you and more Z.. North American guy no he is a Russian and he's injured right now and there's all kinds of rumors that maybe the penguins in the sends will do business in trying to re Dallas. I Dunno Corey Perry I was GONNA say bory payroll you Shoulda Corey Perry he did but it's outside that window oh Jesus to their five so how the rebuilds been going on for a while now I mean the last year one of a rebuild and all the guys being purged in that it's it's scorched I don't know I don't know by the way on the Russian front

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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 298: Featuring Kevin Stevens

Spittin' Chiclets

2:05:05 hr | 5 months ago

Spittin' Chiclets Episode 298: Featuring Kevin Stevens

"Hello, everybody. Welcome to show two, hundred, Ninety, eight of Spitting Chiklis presented by Pink Whitney for my friends at new, Amsterdam Vodka here in the hospitals sports podcast family. The bubble has burst yet. We got who thrillers over the weekend. We're GONNA get some more hockey. Thank. God. We'll get to them shortly. Let's check in with the boy sale. Oh I producer Mikey Grenell how goes? It goes well, big weekend from you guys I went shopping Soho for the first time got tons of Nice fancy clothes every store going I'd say what would biz where because I'm copycat? That's how I do it. So I had a great weekend got tons of clothes and falls going to be a big season for boys, not not what are our? Not. No that's fine. Yeah. Well, good luck with that credit card bill when it comes in speaking of business next up Paul is Nasty Bissonnette. What's going on Bain speaking of shopping I got Finnegan our dog he got a new bow tie caller. So we`re I might that crazy dog owner now, that's like a parasol old show. The biggest loser. Dogana the dog owner that doesn't have kids and has a dog and you just like what's wrong with you. It's not a human being. It's along with dog Vlad. Much guys. Grenell. You gotTA. Understand. that. He's six three to twenty. I mean you can't. Who can't try to copy some of your same body as? Do. Fashion advice though he gave me a ton of fashion advice, he told me that you find something in you stick with it. You find a nice black shirt that looks good on you you by fifteen of them. Of that big fan of that. I'm big fan like huge guy blocked shirts. That's why have seven hundred t shirts. He's GonNa be. Strong Like old bobbleheads of the ninety one whale, there's already not like an actual nice shirt. Grenell he's going to be strolling with a man killed on. Guys so Was this close because I have had the lightning since three years ago when the season started, it was this close I I have been so dead on with my playoff picks and it was this close to end in but we got game sex. I'm pretty happy about that we should do but I gotta get the game for you get the game five of the game for Tampa Bay wins a wild one, five four not to take a three, two, one series lead lots of controversy in this one unfortunately relating to the referees we hate the. Talk about it. But when these guys are, we have to bring it up. There was a trip and call on Jamie Ben from the REF trailing the play. It's believed he thinks everyone thinks he saw a slew foot there was no slew a lot of people start to guys battling for a puck in the neutral zone should have been a call either way whistle blown Powell play for the deadly power play from Tampa Bay Shattenkirk Beach Dhabi six, thirty, four and ot Biz I. Know You are chomping at the bit to get to this one I. Are Human and you know it's such a difficult job and these guys have been in that bubble in throughout the players have gone through two. You're on the biggest stage that game first of all, that was one of the most insane games I've ever watched. It had a little bit of absolutely everything crazy bounces. The momentum's swings especially without having a crowd in there but. I felt that the Reps. Were chasing their non calls and calls bad ones all night and I guess it started with Rupa Hence going down and I felt that Johnson should have got a trip on that got to control your stick even though as he swung it around. He's got. He's got to control it. He dropped ARRUPE hints ends up getting injured I. Think he left the game after that one I wasn't crazy about how soft The call on on Sirnak that offensive zone was Johnson also received a high stick in the offensive zone that then go called. A. Den then the to me, the the biggest swing is when Perry ends up sticking point in the knots and wet I gotta ask you pretty. You obviously weren't down with the fact that they called the embellishment as well. I just tweeted out embellishment. It not. So -t's embellishments. That's what I did watching TV. So then I tried to relay that tweet. I've never seen a call like that. The whole game was such a joke Biz, I think the worst. The worst non-call on Johnson I think than anything I mean granted benzes overtime says stump statement. But that Joe how do you not give Johnson tripping penalty there his sticks in the guys feet he tripped and injured himself. So that granted you're right away you don't know he's injured Holy Shit was an inconsistency. I like what you said that they were chasing it. So so you're trying to imply or your, or you're thinking that they got they got a couple incorrect whether they. Missed one or gave when they shouldn't have early and they're like, all right. We gotta make up for this now because the whole makeup effect in the whole idea of all, right well, they we owe 'em we all old them one now that only makes it more of a circus. Well, I'm saying that because for fans listening like they're getting barked at by the players when they're missing these calls and coaches like things are being set out there. Right. So now I think it's I think they're probably feeling the effects in the fact that they missed the trip and its injured a guy. So then Johnson ends up getting high sticked in the offensive zone and then that wasn't called. So I'm thinking okay maybe that's their one back, and then the Sirnak one ends up getting called an Ra we were texting back and forth about this one and it was the the loose hand on second I thought it was fucking soft and I thought tyrod only Johnson not getting the high stick. Call in front of the net but the Sirnak was was kind of a makeup. Then then moving forward as far as the the Corey Perry one I thought that was ridiculous that he got an embellishment there you get hooked right in the nuts. Then that kind of set the stage then all of a sudden ot starts at shouldn't have been four on four. Then Sergeyev gets beat by sagging and he uses that loose hand and he sits then they call the timeout they end up killing off that. Power Play Tapa does. Because Dallas is power play stinks. Yeah. Right now at least it's been struggling. Jamie Ben Call. I. Don't like it but. As far as like the loose hand and and looking at it from behind there was a play earlier in the season when I think Jamie Ben went by one of the tap of players and kind of like like kicked them while they were by the benches. I'm not saying that that's playing to the fact that this call, but maybe didn't give him benefit of the doubt and the fact that maybe from trailing the play, it did look like a slew foot I thought it was soft. It did look as if though Janey Ben's hand came over. And this is this is the key here. The the loose hands situation Pat Maroon got one in the offensive zone. They'd already called the Sirnak one on the loose hand and I believe as I mentioned the surrogate have one on second start. So they'd already set the standard into me playoff and I'm a dinosaur I don't like a ton of power plays and I like it battled out a little bit more. So that's my opinion I thought that that considering they'd set the standard with the loose hand. With Sirnak Call Than It was a stall ball fact in the fact that it was. It's it's over time of the Stanley Cup final, you want hire a great penalty. You know what? IF DALLAS IS PLAYING TAMPA? On the second game of a back to back same refs they're all out after and it's and the February and maybe the Ref who's in the game got a notice. You gotTA call more penalties call I don't care regular season but right there the only reason you cannot make that call the biggest reason I should say. It doesn't affect the play they have eliminated each other. Okay. If you WANNA say that Ben I think he kind of must certainly there was the freehand, but you wanna say ben like totally took down point. Ben was also stuck out of the play. The play moving up is it did not have any effect on what was happening that shift I'm telling US Johnson but but I excuse me excuse me point is just on my mind because whole. I agree with you. I, don't think it's you know what I mean. So I'm saying like. It didn't affect anything. You WanNa make a call when a guy's reaching out to get park on a two on one certainly then you talk about. All right. He literally cost him a chance at scoring and then the game that didn't cost anyone anything and it sucked to watch the game end that. Would agree with all my assessment. Ra that that considering early on that Johnson trip led to the. That led to the injury on Rupa hints, and then all of a sudden Dallas Goes Down A. Guy. That it's like a little bit of a psychological element to it. As far as the refs. Yes. Because they thought they were battle night. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great great more. You make like they were chasing that 'cause now to go to the what used to be called obstruction hold member of the lockout back in five when they cancelled the season and they started calling everything open all camp had fifty power plays a game. It was amazing being a quarterback on the power play during that first jobs. Like memo changed the rules ten power plays in every period at the beginning. So I mean as much as I think that might be a Chintzy call sometimes Biz I. I will say they've been consistently call now for about fifteen years. It's typically called below the circles when there's a battle around a near the net in guy takes his free hand and physically grabs the other guy now in the Ben. Johnson Situation Ben's given. He has six inch advantage probably thirty forty pound weight advantage. It's a puck battle now yeah he has is free hand. I don't think he grabbed my push them and because he's so much bigger than them he knocked them down I thought, yeah. It was a neutral zone puck battle not something that should be called not that blatant where you're gonNA affect the the outcome of the game and that's exactly what happened. And I like to ask. Corey Perry about the Cup Check Corey, can you take us through what you saw at the end of the third period with you in point? He's like, no, they ended the fucking zoom. While there's there's one of the guys we've got to talk about and I was mistaking I was because Tyler Johnson him it's funny when you are in Boston we chatted like Tyler Johnson was unreal well, you did they beat the Bruins are in the in the in the playoffs was Still Seen Chicago show is yeah I think fifteen. Okay. So that year Tyler Tyler Johnson came on the scene and you're thinking like, Oh my God this guy's Game-breaker. And Brandon point came into the same thing and then totally kinda surpass them child Johnson's a great player. But brayden point is in a legitimate star in the NHL and let me tell you about game for you can talk about everything that went down throughout that game. But he scored goals twelfth he ended up getting another one but it's twelve thirty seconds left in the first period Dallas has that first period to perfection it's up to nothing they actually got outplayed. And you give up a goal to point with under a minute left. That was the big the big moment in that game in the craziest part about that plays, I guess a set breakout you wanna see a good Tampa's just go watch because shattenkirk behind the net he looks up politico safar. Blue. Hawks back. Perfect. Pass off the boards right to plot who just turns up and that Dickinson thought he could skate with point is he's he's blazing. He's sold fast and he got one step on Dickinson perfect pass and then boom to one totally different vibe and then you know they did the same thing in the second period. I. Think there was a minute left when they made it three three or Was it four? Three three at that time I've been stroke in this pilot off like crazy that pass. I've always late that slight delay and the absolute zips and I WANNA talk about that goal. Well, you you mentioned that the the back toback passes in the fact that it's just like boom boom. That's how they execute the Tampa Bay lightning. They're right back on offense point pizzas guy my only issue on the defensive side of it is secure as in the middle of the ice. For All, young kids listening he doesn't have a guy and it's not his fault that point gets by Dickinson but he has his stick off the ice holding it with both hands put your stick on the ice in the lane because that pass had gone away. Stick on the ice kids pass only leverage. All you need to do is get a piece of that and it's go into orbit and some lady normally would be eating it fucking in the crowd losing her chocolates but that's Not, agree. Did you see the replay on it? He standing right through the middle of the ice stick up if you could just get your sticking that Lane Tippett, there's nothing comes to that you go out of the period up to nothing but we gotta talk about the two quick goals that that Dallas did score after what I thought like you said being played in the first period Klingberg very similar to Kevin Rhonda's in the first game where for a first shots initially blocked. Seems as though Basil Alaska current track it Klingberg find again and boom. They're up one nothing and then that Jamie Ben Pass over to ski who we're going to have to talk about him. Because at that point, he tied the tied the record for most goals scored by an American in playoff history. Yeah. Did you see how it went when they asked him after? Yeah. Well, they lost the game and he's such a team guy and I I. Guess You have to ask the question as the reporter asked him how he felt. But you gotta know, he's I. Don't give a shit. Great. Yeah. The reply was great. Said keep it next question. Yeah. Come on. You're in the Cup final as you living in a bubble you just cannot wait to go home and you WANNA winner. It's all worthless and you'll get an asked about an individual record that for sure it someday, you'll think about appreciate but it was just there's no chance any guy that's playing right now or in the league really would care or at least make it verbally. Noticeable to everyone that he does WanNa. Talk about it. Yeah and then after that, you Tampa ends up tying it up and just a very exciting game through and through ends up going to overtime, and then you mentioned shoddy the overtime hero. Do says this guy what assigning and that's a perfect shot I actually saw somebody a couple people like saying that that's gotta be blocked but. Mean I. Know It's a perfect shot through the demands legs I guess if you go down with the one knee down, you're you're more likely to block there but I believe it was Alexia. I think. He's pretty good block and you just gotTa give shattenkirk credit and then maroons one of the reasons to be standing right in front perfect screen. So that's when you kind of knew the series is over. I it was an awesome game five. You can go into that but three one coming back against them I don't think. So Oh, really you don't like the Juju after the worm, the worm and faust interesting stat there. So we're going to jump into game five now. Yeah I I by the way no Stamkos and game four and it did come out shortly before we started recording, he has done for the series. So we are not gonNA see Steven stamkos again in another two Corey Perry after the game all during game for he became the first of NHL Mr, September the first player to score a regular season goal and a playoff goal in. The month of September that's a pretty quirky stat because the season typically starts in October but this is one of those overseas trip. So he scored in September a real regular season goal, and now a playoff goal is that why he was allowed to have his wife come into the bubble because I think is the only player that has his wife inside the bubble right now. I don't think so I know the I showed her but I don't know if she can't be the only one right but I believe if you're living in us, you couldn't go. That's what I was saying joke before. Yeah, there's a lot of. Controversy of Hullabaloo, about that, I don't know if she's Canadian if she was already up there or whatever but. Either way game five, Dallas wins a double overtime three to four game six on Monday night can't wait for that. Anton Khudobin Stop Thirty, nine, forty, one shots none bigger than the point tip and double overtime. It's one of those saves you didn't probably maybe might not caught as it happened, but they really slowed it down great on NBC and it was perfect perfect tip from point and he was just in a perfect spot right off the edge of the pad tremendous save costs a couple minutes. Later, the worm ends it give us more hockey what let's go to you first on this one. I mean you're watching. A team that that has just bonded so well, together and Ben. So ben through so many different issues this year in Dallas I, mean the one of the worst starts team history, the their coach got fired everything. Kinda was really really tough for them to start the year and you've seen where they've come. You knew for a fact, they weren't going down without a fight I think winning three games in a row is going to be impossible for them. But you knew that they were going to at least give whatever they had left in game five and they did and he'd open was just so good I know he said before the game he wanted to start I didn't really understand. I saw it on H. Network saying you don't even request that he's he start I know a back to back and he'd struggled but I I would have been very surprised if you hadn't started, who do you agree with that? I don't know know. You're thinking you're thinking throwing the youngster. I don't know I would assume the reason they set it is because there was a question whether he was going to. Back to back any hasn't necessarily been playing that good and he got yanked in the game before. Yes so Now that goes without saying that this team you knew they were going to come out and give it everything. Perry. I mean how? What was the goal streak I? Think it was at nineteen before we got one and he opened the scoring early and you just got to think that. It, it was. It was exactly how they wanted to start, and then you could. You could see also in the first period, you're Dovan was something different something really came back and Click because there was times you're like wondering what the hell happened to this guy but Tampa just so good I mean. The game ends up being this thrilling game that they ought to go to double ot. It's a miracle they didn't Tampa ended the first. The first overtime was one of the bigger shit kicking periods. We've ever seen I I I think I said that about Tampa period like three days ago. So I give them all the credit. It was a great game but I do think that there is just no doubt that they are wearing them down in that they're so good and this point Kucherov outline when they're going I, it's impossible. It's impossible to beat this team they too many weapons and then those three on the ice are just at another level than anyone else. Cutting to them at their that goal when he went outside his leg to protect the puck was was masterful but I've never I've never seen domination like I. Did that. Iot and then I just had that sense you know wants Dallas kept. Pushing, the game pushing the game. That, they were gonNA find a way to squeak one in. So Corey Perry ends up with the OT winner and there is a little fun fact there I think he's the fifth place, our fifth player ever. To have five ot goals in the Stanley Cup playoffs and he's on a very interesting list here and I'm going to read it off. Joe Sack Maurice Rashard. Patrick. Kane Glenn. Anderson and my mind you Joe Sakic has eight of them. So there that's a pretty nice list of File K. More career playoff ot winners, polka fan, Anderson, and the the the main the main reason I guess if it's ever going to happen if they if they ever to win this series, it would be just don't get penalties because they only got one right because. The power play is you can. You can really only hope to contain the way they move it around the way they've figured it out and Dallas has really been. It's been too difficult for them on the PK and they not only is it hard. They're taking show many penalties. So they finally stay out of the box. So that's the recipe. It's just gonNa be so hard because they're so quick there. So fast, that's when the hooking com that's when all the Defensive Zone pounds come when you just chasing around this team. Let me ask you this Ra only one penalty for Dallas Game Five. Do you think that's a result of the game before and how how they got bent over? No Spit? No loop sandpaper finish. Yeah. It did seem kind of suspicious I. Guess the next three total penalties all night. Yeah. The one by Sega to that was such a lazy unnecessary penalty to catch in the guy pilot the stick off the face off, you aren't even taken and it's like this always read Bible it was the last thing you WanNa do but he did redeem himself. He was put down on Perry's line he ends up with three assists. Just, the second player in franchise history to collect at least three assists in a cup final game I know people have on Sagan. He's an offensive Dynamo. He hasn't been scoring but I thought he had a measure of redemption that game last night I know they haven't won anything yet It was interesting to the first I ask Stanley Cup with Games on consecutive days since two thousand nine and it's only happened twice since nineteen fifty five which just kind of a weird thing. Obviously, any didn't WanNa go against the NFL. Sunday. I think that's a big part of it now, what I wanted to ask you. What do you got? When you? What the always penguins you guys are in the same spot on the brink of elimination game fire game five, you want to three overtime game the fourth game six. What was the confidence of the penguins going into that game six? As. High as could be. We were going home. It's so much different than now with no crowds it's. Thing but we were going back to Pittsburgh where. I mean, we were just we felt like we couldn't lose that place was crazy melon arena. The IGLOO was the loudest place I've ever been my friends. They came to the Cup final game not the game we lost they came to the game we want actually it was game three. And they've been to the garden the Bruins on the run they're like there's nothing like that I'm telling you gives me the chills to talk. And we came flying out and that team was so good. But you know one game is hard game for them to win. It doesn't matter how good I'm saying Tampa is it's going to be a battle on Dallas like knowing from experience you're were in it dude, and all you think is win this game and game seven is aicraft shoot. That's your whole thing and that's Everyone believes to because one game anything in the world can happen and just get us through this game sex. Now, the toughest part is, is this one tap is going to be confident that they feel the same way that Detroit probably felt as confident as they did go into game sex like while we should have had them not. We blew that. Let's just close them out now. I, the pair confident teams I guess going back to the second he got dropped down to that Lyon two games ago he's been great like. Before checking a lot harder. You saw that one play he made where he had four checking creating the separation. The PUCK was lose Dole Fort in ended up setting somebody up and not when poking towards them. But I think he had two assists also in the game before. I really liked that that shuffling of the lines it creates a little bit more more depth wrote. The. Dallas lineup. I don't know man I I'd like to see this one goes seven and you gotta wonder how tired tap is after they pushed the pace all fucking game long. Night is the team chasing them around? We'll find out won't we? Boys I'll tell you. There are a couple of there's nothing like a blind saved and each goalie made one. Vasilevskiy me when there was a shot from Lindell's hit roots, his knee and vast was looking the other way and it just happens to hit him off the shoulder and then the same thing with Dhabi. There was a save on good role I mean and thank God he didn't squawk it was kind of a hot and probably a high sticky tipped it Khudobin looking the other way hits his pad goes away and thank Christ I. Think Ed's Oh said during the telecast like that the data. Because they one hundred percent would have had to review it for a high stick because it was it was so close I mean it's like Oh thank Christ. We don't have to go to a Guardian Review for a potential cup final winning goal Eah I thought I had tweeted out to like, please let the players decide the game please the place and I had a bunch of like ood tone dokoupil penalties. It's like well, maybe I wasn't talking about that. Of course, I was how about the official who calls a fucking ice when the puck hits. Vassilev Skis pad takes a bounce where it would a trajectory that wouldn't happen hit the. That's the type of Shit. I. Also looting to it's like man if they scoff that that face off off that icing call that that would be just as bad as a fucking shitty penalty in my to right before that Maroon got away with a trip behind the net like a big time. The line another let's not forget to Maroon shot the pockets of the bench this series. Yeah. Strain of fired the pocket the bench you talked about Kucherov wit. Here's another one for your third player with Twenty Six plus assists in a single postseason. Only two other players have done it Wayne. Gretzky. Four times and Mario Lemieux did at once and thank you to Grenell for sending that over. That's a nice little stat. Point out real quick Andy Strickland tweeted this week that Pat Maroon I mean he he had to wait all off season to get a call from Tampa and this offseason they said he's going to have tons of suitors, tons of teams lining up for him so good for Pat. Wouldn't be disappointed if you ended up winning backups, talk about where I mean we've we've mentioned it before in the podcast just kind of a guy who has never really had payday. Given with what he's been through an the numbers used in the past. So hopefully, the big rig adds up scorned big on Connie. I. I wasn't writing stuff down but type A man I was getting coppell tunnel just keeping track of all the Dallas blocks I, mean how many shots they block and diving in front of I mean Pavlovsky window these guys were just I mean obviously seasons on the line, but they were selling out it was it was incredible stuff the watching of course, Polski ties it with six and change left. Second game and role that he ties it in the third period, and like you said, a few minutes ago is now is the most playoff goals by an American with sixty one passing the great joy mullen from Hell's kitchen, Manhattan his four goals and five. Stanley Cup. Final Games, ties, Gordie Howe Imerese Rashad for most goals by Agai older than thirty five and you actually did it few game show. I mean they're like rewrite and record books left and right and again we hats off the. Jim. Nill for bringing in Corey Perry Joe. Pavelski. These guys have scored the last six goals for the Dallas Stars and they were the free agent signings in the off season, and then we shifted over to tap. We talk about the deals they made at the deadline and they gave up quite a bit for and Coleman Gujral. So these these. Are, huge and they can make a break or team. So like you said Jim Nill did an incredible job especially with. Probably, the negativity that he would have faced bringing Perry and even beforehand with him being an older guy slowing down a little bit dealing with injuries in Anaheim towards the end. so He's been detrimental to them. If they haven't, they haven't both of them score their last six goals he's been watching them. Is that what you said? He. Instrumental, we've already been over this Ya. You detrimental to the fact that I just dropped thirty seconds before. Yeah. No I'm vote to say Pavlovsky is top three. We need for a Sam Bagger, but he has to bring a fifty fifteen handicap like you because he's nasty but that's the guy and he's he deserves to win a Stanley Cup. So many players out there do so many guys alone on Dallas I look at and deserve Stanley. Cup for water career and that that number to look at how many goals he has in the playoffs and The names that he's passed on that list at least I'm American USA LEGENDS GUYS looked up to my idols and he's passed them all. So congrats to him knew what a player and I've I've long talked when we started this podcast today I mentioned how good he is attempting poxy you've seen him create a bunch. He creates issues for the opposing team whether tips it in or tips it off the golden it's a rebound in a scrum in. Front so I just love watching that guy play Perry's came in and he's been great these past few games like I said the drought but now I mean you know you know how much of a ratty is you see all the things he pulls and then he's able to score a couple goals notice scored on the crease just where he goes relives the worm and who's the other guy wanted to mention Oh little downer of a note Lindell. Arnaud Man this series I've seen that Drago laying, and if he's playing too many minutes but there's a bunch of instances I can think of him getting beat wide him being out there for goals against and he's he's a really solved player. He's gotTa severely underrated career especially at the stars, but this has been a tough series for him. Also tough series for the graphic I'd NBC. detriminal. The Stars Light I. Think he's only been on the stars to I why am I thinking somewhere else I think I might have played against him in the minors. I mean he's good. Oh, and I just want to also pump I wanNA pump Klingberg is better at walking the line I think in the NHL in the in the sky. He reminds me all kinds of Eric Carlson used to do it i. know that may sound like a Chirp, but you haven't seen him at full health but that cling gets the middle opens up past shot makes it look so simple a love. The hips don't lie Nokia Shaquille in Dallas I mean they get they went into the game five all banged up and they've also haven't had blake coma for the last couple of games and that's you know that's I know he's not an offensive force, but he's one of those guys the veterans that does all the little things that you want to get done. He helps penalties which they haven't been able to do. Your score on the power play as well. I. One other Question Boys I. I should have probably taken a screen shot I can do later but disgree of blow dryers here between periods like billy. Giles Violence Slapshot they take one point his hair was dry as a bone. It was like second second over guys don't sweat maybe he didn't even play it all that period. I don't know me I was it was kind of unusual to see so much dry hair but. Any closing notes before moving along boys. So we pretty much covered it all. I'm guessing bowl teams skated over that Rome it out on the ice, a bunch of times, and that's why we got back to back overtime Biz because most guys have tried different ways to last longer. But thinking about the crazy amount of hockey says we get bombarded with doesn't always work. 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That's a Grazie knoll. That is crazy. Crazy note. Let's actually nobody's cabins never got hurt and in the finals. That's crazy years last time that the cup was presented with a and remember he comes out though and he gets it. Correct. But not to dress in going back to when Pittsburgh it without you in the lineup. No nine didn't remember when Sid got hurt halfway through that game like he hurt his MC l. and. He didn't third. Yeah. I didn't in the third so they should just dress standard is to be just to be on the bench just to go against the stat dance someone did ask online whether whether put him in the game just in case they won the Cup to get his name on it, but he had already played more than the minimum enough games and you would never at this level just do that. Yeah. Need all hands on deck right now. Right plus I mean plus. To pose he only played twenty games this year due to injury you can also petitioned the NHL I mean all getting getting a Qatar Front of the horse a little but I'm sure like a Guzman captain for a long time they probably would have allowed his name is you can get exemptions but the last time the cup was handed out in Edmonson was way back on May twenty six Biz nineteen, eighty-eight referee for the Game Andy Van Helman Lanzmann Ron Finn and race campanello the oilers swept the Bruins that series so. Edmonton's GonNa get a cup raisin sometime this week and NHL teams to rally from three to one in the being down three two one in the final to force a game seven the six dollars four connects eighty, seven, five, fifty, four Canadians, forty-five veterans, and forty two maple beliefs. Only the maple leafs ended up going on to win that game seven. So you know Dallas has a big big chore in front of Them But like you said, don't count them out what's up way she the ref was Andy Van Helmond. 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Trade, my flock of sheep to put my son in Siberian hockey. Do you want Russian gas down your five whole? Ski came on the phone. He sucker punched my Bra. ooh. I was driving. What a song. We care here at very well. Shit Sorry Boys Gregory laps, and I can't say the name because it's in English but maybe we could just get like a better version on there but just reminded me bringing up great music from Russia Russian rap is coming at you like firebirds. What what were some other artists you'd put on that list of the top top actors actresses who have came out with tunes even athletes Oh, shack at a couple rap songs man Adam Sandler Adam Sandler. Adam saying his work cut like Daiwa comedic songs. Like the evidence, get a good voice in saying the a great song of the shampoo bottle. What Song was? Don. Johnson. Had A son back in the day like he was a big style at Miami vice he came out with a song heartbeat not saying that was particularly great. But it was like a legit hit on MTV man back in the day for worldwide you're looking at. WHO's Bay Will Hasselhoff Aw Huge Germany is is I mean you're looking at a superstar musician there there's somebody I'm not thinking of though that that has a great I remember saying that Guy's an unreal voice he's an actor I'll think of. Patrick swayze's she's like the wind was that his track. Jab I can't believe I missed at me saying that yes. That's all that that might be what I'm thinking of Jamie Fox to Jamie Fox. James There's another guy putting the childish Gambino section where this guy he could do all. He's he's one of he's like the as far as like an interview as far as acting skills as far as a musician his Co. I think he's a stand up comedian. He gets Jamie is five deal James. Five five star. Athlete. College I'm musician scholarship. He's the guy who gets asked by all these. Celebrities and Elitists to host their parties. So he goes on the Mike they're like. Oh Yeah. He's Jamie Fox the man he he had a Howard Stern interview vote I think it was like a couple of years ago but he was ten at a ten that was when I heard that he had sure and was living on his couch. He has one of the greatest performances in cinematic history as well as Rachel Cooper turned it on for that movie. Another one. That's a great answer. He turned it on for that. What was that movie called a stars on board yeah that movie was. Talk. About sad can movie. That's down here. Little. Bradley. We got some actually quite a bit of newsboy since the last episode we still gotta get to the Penguins Hey of quiet defenseman. Mike. Matheson. Forward Colton seaview off from the Florida Panthers in exchange for Patrick. On quest was pretty relevant full on the back to back cup champions that penguins had a few years ago he's got three years left at five point three per year it's going to be thirty four in the next season starts whenever that is had seventeen goals in fifteen to slash GSA. The twenty year Defense Matheson he's got six more years left on his deal at just under five million, a year kapit and AV and the thirty year CBO is in the last year of his that pays them. One point two million Florida sheds just under a million in salary. They still have twenty one point seven, million in cap space. But when he gets six forwards on the current roster current roster that doesn't include like minor league sign. Pittsburgh. has six point one million in caps base and they still need to resigned either Jerry or Murray whether they decided to go with their. Biz when he got, we'll two things. So we covered the matheson thing last podcast with the speculation. The fact of the trade didn't end up going through. We use the term, all the tools, no toolbox. I haven't watched them play enough. That's just what I'm reading online I. Hope he goes there and he lights lap kind like Schultz came over from Edmonton. Everyone thought that Scholz was trash and he went in there and help to help them win a couple of Stanley Cups. So I hope he does the same and as far as the Horn quist rumor about him throwing his Pittsburgh penguins gear in the driveway because he was upset about the trade folks that's hockey players, arrow their gear. So enough with the nonsense, you actually hear from him that he chucked his ear in the driveway at US eight eastgate and right now. Okay. Okay. All that was all in the same area. You think if he was chuckling wouldn't be all over the place. I don't know unless I hear from somebody that out of his mouth that he was disgusted by the trade and felt betrayed and he did it himself I think I've seen that he's was shocked. I haven't seen disgusted line side. Sided Kind of it was obviously a tough situation for me and my family when you get blindsided a little bit conquest set on Friday when you know you have a no trade, you don't think this kind of question is going to come up. But when I find out Pittsburgh didn't want me in Florida really wants me it was an easy choice for me, my family and I'm super excited to go down there and help them win some. Okay. So that quote that quote. That quote to me says that like fuck you and I've always said if a player ever gets asked to waive his no trade, how do you ever? Really, hard to go back You don't want me anymore and I think that was kind what his point was like. All right I got a team that wants me you're quitting on me I want to Stanley cups here he's played a long time. and He's been Bene- guy that's just. Hard style to she can't think his body is going to be in good shape someday when he retires. So you're saying the guy who won't waivers trade clause like the crazy ex girlfriend. Who likes it's like hey. I'm not feeling this relationship anymore. No I'm staying I'm not leaving. Yes. Yes. I'll give you that like no no no I like my house here and my wife does a great pilates class. Trying to get broken up with your mom. We're going to make this work. So Matheson I think could be really good over there. He does he can. It's just I think the trade works both sides because you definitely think Florida needs a little bit more jam upfront. They need a lot of things. We got a lot more news to cover, but we are talking about the penguin. So it's probably a good time to mention I. Guess when we bring him on in a few minutes, Kevin Stevens speaking winning two cups, with Pittsburgh, as he did many moons ago, obviously had some rough seas since then but we got all sides of. Kevin Stevens great interview will be bringing that to you in a little bit but I just want to mention because we were talking about Penguins the ranges traded somebody they traded longtime defenceman mocks fall and a second rounder and twenty twenty one to Detroit for the future considerations, which could very well be a bottle of pink wig after all is said and done. Good out and gets a five point seven, million dollars cap hit a thirty, four year old defenseman off of his books for the cost, the second round, and he'll be thirty four in the next season starts he now is about twenty million caps base in money to sign restricted free agent defenceman Tony de Ngelo on the other side, Stevie? Why he can always flip style up the next deadline whenever that is for something else signed turned him into another asset. Detroit's actual doll is the only have to pay three, point, two, million he has four point two that already had a million dollar bonus paid Detroit has over twenty, seven, million and cap space. They have four picks in the first two rounds of the next two drafts and six picks in the first three rounds of those same draft. So stevie, why doing stevie white thanks. I was a little hard on. He did a couple of things like that where he ended up eating salaries that teams didn't want especially with the Rangers that fact that they're they're heading in the right direction in order to gain asset. So a great move by St y also a better and who's going to come in there and he I think he handles his. Business fairly professionally a little fun fact, this far mark styles concern including playoffs play nine hundred and ninety nine games with the New York Rangers more than likely will be hitting us, thousand game with the Detroit red. Wings. So my heart goes out to all those guys. We're GONNA pay for that gift given how much time he did play in New York but yeah. I. I. This is this is this shows the business side Apis. Yeah. This shows you never forget like twelve overall pick years ago. Marc Staal and you had a great career is in New York Ranger and in the end dude nobody gives a shit about you. So Hey, we just traded you for literally nothing we can't afford to pay what you're making. Thank you for everything with that. Just it's a reminder when this stuff happens at the end, the guys careers, it is such a business would you agree and he's he's obviously declined a little bit. He got hit in the eye with a puck right? When he was playing new. York. And I want to say after that he was really never the same. And it's a shame but nonetheless, still a great career. And as I said I, think he's going to go over to Detroit. He's going to be out of that limelight, a new organization WHO's on on the up and up and I would imagine stevie wise. Going to keep grinding away. Human Chemo. Team in two thousand thirteen. Month before the March two, thousand thirteen, hit him in the face. Of Crazy Dude. That's. My blogging colleague six, ten at Basel he covers the ranges. He had a great piece on the on the stalled trade and gave his props like you said, he's a guy. You know the game I just probably got a lot faster for him the laugh years but very well respected ranger. The true fans really appreciate what he brought to that squad. I ranger fans are so hard especially on their demand I felt the same about Girardi towards the end of his career and how much good time he'd put in there and yeah maybe lost a step but they're you know New York's a tough place to play man the ruthless. Another moving along here as I tweeted on Sunday expect the Bruins to trade the rights to Tori group probably should happen on Monday teams interested. Colorado. Florida. Vegas Detroit among the shooters, of course for Free Agency doesn't actually open till October. Nine people say, well, why would they trade Tom? It's an exclusive negotiating philly did it with Kevin Hayes and that upside at him I'm art young Jeffrey's Edmonson that upside in him so teams are willing to give up. Probably I would say probably a fifth round will end up being just for the exclusive negotiating rights. I understand why it's going down but I think the bruins are really GonNa Miss Tori Group. And I think he's going to go somewhere and he's into the usual guy. Get fifty could play a ton of minutes. I just it's very surprising that I wonder if they even talked. I, don't know if some numbers were thrown out but someone's getting a hell of a player Grenell, still crank it to his. cause. Yeah I, I love them here in Boston I actually. talked to them momentum of I I think day until we got Harry right after you left college the Bruins doing those shave your head things jared. Long phone the time he jumped right in got his head shaved which you know a lot of young guys might not necessarily do but I remember the first interview I did with him just how much he oozed confidence not cockiness like not like you know abrasive like he was just very confident, very confident skills very confident that team just an easy guide to far and I think he wants the wind. So I'd be very shocked if he ends up signing with Detroit, regardless of what kind of tie wiggle is way I personally feel that Boston's GonNa GonNA regret this one. Yeah? Yeah. Well, we'll have to see I mean he's he's a he's a key pot, but obviously, they probably don't have have him in their budget and I'm very curious to see what he doesn't gone with. All right power statement this. No I do I must ask him for some ridiculous number but. Yeah, we'll see I hope I. Hope it works out for him. Bobby Ryan had the last two years of his deal bottle. By the Ottawa senators you had seven and a quarter million per year left He's instead GonNa get seven, point three, three, million over four seasons. It frees up three point, six MIL for the sends a up all apparently wanted to get younger in their lineup Bobby Ryan of course, six goals nine assists back on the twenty twenty-seven Eastern Conference finals, run and I should I forgot the. That twitter handle down. But they've sent out a picture of that team is not one player left on that team through three as they go within a whisker of going to the Stanley Cup final, and there's not one player left on that squad. It's it's incredible now wit. It's an amazing downfall just. Part of the will worst organization in the NHL. Right. Now I mean the last place you'd WanNa play right now on the Ottawa senators. That's my next opinion. So you've seen what happened and you see that they struggle for fans and where the arena is, we've talked about a million times in the ownership situation. It's not think how good this team was and who beat them in game seven not my boy Chris. Kunitz. Wartime Cup win. Three three cups, did you get four, three, four four and avoid this guy got one anaheim three in Pittsburgh? Right? So anyway. Yeah, it just looked shitty given with what he went through and. You know how he ends up winning is the masterson yet mastodon yeah. He how you pronounce into my apologies but and then all of a sudden this and when your bottom feeders, I would imagine the he mentioned in a statement how close he'd become what the fans and how they embrace them and he was upset but very classy statement on the way from Bobby Ryan. Yup, no doubt and just one other note in the sense there about seventeen million below the cap floor, which is sixty point, two million. But they do have seven picks in the first two rounds, nine picks in the first three rounds. So this is a team you know if they get the right people in charge ownership aside, you know they. Kind of fall in the Detroit's model little bit. Biz. Stock. My Way I'll come back. You Go. Speaking Sinema have signed Geoff Peachy to a four year twenty, five, million dollar extension at six and a quarter million, a year average annual value capit-. It's actually a seven hundred fifty, thousand dollar raise from what he was making before I mean he's going to be thirty three when the next season starts eleven goals twenty nine assists in seventy one games played wit big fan of him during the playoffs yeah. I've been pumping his tires for a long time now. So you see that he probably took a little bit less I I know that really well, well, Oh you think you think he wouldn't got that much I? Think he took less in term potentially but he I mean I think that's a slight overpayment. Montreal fans old me. Demand Twenty five minutes forty point site six, six and a half. Yeah. All right. Well I. Guess That's what the market says. It's just I find it hard at at that age in order to yeah, he's. Saying even but as an older guy, it's like skating isn't isn't at all the issue. You look at, you look at a guy like Perry's thirty, five years old but any kind of getting solar patriots thirty, three, thirty, turning thirty four what he's still flies. Yes. I just think that he mentioned that he wants to stay there. He likes going on there I think that the guys. Certain guys love point in Montreal if you if you were good Montreal all over the place, but I know it's probably difficult at times for them. These past couple years patriots they're there to stay. All, right. You know what? I'm going to regret what I said. You're right consistency with the forty points over the last three or four seasons, and the fact that the market is going to be high for free agent defense means. That I. Guess That's where they're building their team. They got a big back end now they got Edmonson him. Whatever so that's Another their back in their goal tending the foundation their team. So I'M GONNA I'M GONNA retract my statement saying it's a slight overpayment. Duchess. It's detrimental to the pot and I think that the term makes it a a a nice amount for years not not along risk. I'll. Another sign and an old teammate Detroit extended Sam Gandy with a one year deal for eight hundred and fifty k. thirty-one-year-old folded had six goals. Seven assists in forty two games. Last year split between Edmonton in Detroit. Looks like a nice little veteran pickup for a squad visit cheap money. Gag with celebrated last night and resigning Nice. Couple Pink Whitney's pink Whitney in. Sodas. So gags the best he's on at some point we chatted briefly. Congrats to him. He's. A long time to split a law eight, hundred, forty, four games he has we're getting some nice support of the pink Whitney Front from other players. Gag sent me a picture as well as some crushing Pink Whitney Taylor Hall sent me a picture with the Pink Whitney and his new dog the VIZSLA. So yeah. GAGS, showing Muskoka right now. He says, I'm welcome anytime. So you know I'm GonNa take them up on that. All of a sudden you you come with a huge Duffel bag. For the whole interview for like four days. Then I make sure he's talked to Fridge GonNa rent rent this place out airbnb-style make. Offer to. You've. Begs tax. Now that you know you can get for fucking AIRBNB S-, those things ain't fucking boy. One other note before we send it over to Kevin Stevens, the jets Patrick. Lane is definitely play when it comes to get traded. NHL Rooms daily he actually had this a while back. He said line name will be popping up and trade circles pop up quite a bit. I should prize me doesn't get dealt at this stage six point seven, million cap hit. He is a after the next season but do this kid still only twenty, two years old he had eighty goals in his first two seasons there's gotta be something off whether it's with his teammates. This chemistry is something because. How do you give up on a talent this good. So young no I think it's a case of where they're going to have to give up the money. I think they got two guys in their top nine could produce offensively where maybe what he's GonNa demand as far as money. His overall game is just not there at least right now and to me that makes that makes the most sense for that Winnipeg team That's not saying that he won't end up figuring out becoming a better two way forward. He did take strides this past season getting better defensively and having more consistency in his game but. I've never been overly high on them for other than of and find the back than net but he. Yeah. This guy's career is going to play out if you need score. If you're a team out there looking for score twenty, two years old disguise sick me second overall like he has everything it takes and he's proven that he could score. You got over forty one year. Sure. I know I know there's question marks but I would I would want a shitload in return. I'd WanNa Monster. Return. If I'm Winnipeg because this guy he he can really he could truly be a every year thirty five, forty goal player dude. Okay. So keep in mind though he's he was playing with one of the most underrated center at the time sharply at least a decent amount of it in the NHL and he's surrounded by other guns especially on the power play there and Winnipeg. So. Be careful what you wish for that's what I'm saying I need this. I need to see more consistency in a better two hundred foot game before I start given the credit. Yeah. He could find the back of the net, but he's also getting fucking pucks put on tea form. Yeah. Yeah. I mean all due respect those Senator Dole Biz that that's a release unlike most guys in the NHL either shirl either way we'll keep tabs on it but tell me tell me a guy who disappears for periods of time as a forty Gore score more than that guy. 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Pleasure to welcome my next guest to the show, he was one of the most dominant power of the early ninety twice score and more than fifty goals in a season while also accumulate more than one hundred points in those seasons in fifteen nhl season's tally three, hundred, twenty, nine, goals three, hundred, ninety, seven assists in eight, hundred, seventy, four total games for five teams, and of course, he went back to back Stanley cups with the Pittsburgh Penguins and ninety one and ninety two wagons. Thanks so much for making the trip Kevin Stevens how I Appel Great. Great. Yeah. Thanks for having me guys. It's a pleasure. It's nice to be here and Charles Tom. Businesses home. This is this all happens right here and for people who don't know growing up I mean. You're the guy looked up to guy from Massachusetts. You know nine years old when you're star in the NHL and I did want to I find out how'd you get the nickname because everyone calls? When did this start? When I was that's my dad's name. You know it's like, okay. So it's kind of like an easy name Artie. Already. Neil Shea someone gave it to me a. b. c., and then just stuck. My Mother didn't like. Kevin, she thinks Kevin is a nice name but. Worry me with. Called Girls, guys, dogs everybody already you know and I don't even know people are call me. Are You well, I I remember hearing already is going to be a camp today when I was at Pittsburgh, who's already like? Oh I still don't know. I don't like Walt. Yeah same thing. I already. You know that's what they call them. Crazy. Take a Boston thing. They refused to call you by your first name. I actually had that written down because Bobby House? Who is a commentator for the muskegon lumberjacks? was calling for some dirt on you and I was looking stuff up to I didn't know growing up you were quite the ball player and got invited to play or. Trial with the Toronto Blue Jays and Philadelphia Phillies as an athlete could been could could've been winning world series with Joe Carter and. Kartika. Cups with with David Ortiz in Boston. What Dzhokhar? Toronto Guy. But yeah, it's now baseball. So I love playing baseball is kind of. Back, there you back Danny, we could play three sports in high school and. Now no one does it. But back then I played Bass I love baseball as a catcher and That's what my dad was. My Dad played in the Cincinnati reds organization from the minors he was. Catcher. So Dad never skated. So you're actually want to push the base baseball fun I love playing, Bass. So how did you with your dad never playing what even was the beginning? Think it started. From being here like Bob your that area you know it was like seven o'clock. You Get up and get in watch the BRUINS. It's like played a lot of street hockey and somehow I get on the ice and it was just Kinda. Just kinda played said so I, just tried it and Kinda liked it but never knew. Yeah. No plan at all there's. No point of immune to jump on the ice at five and say I'm going to play. Let's do it. No, it didn't happen that way. What was it the the the aggression in physicality that you're you in more than anything? Yeah. I think so I think part of it fun part like. Can always play that way. It's different from baseball which kind of laid back but but the hockey part of it was. Just kind of caught. It was just something natural. kind of caught on I. liked it a lot. Yeah. So you grew up in pembroke grew up in pembroke and played what was the team at the seahawks? No chance. The pembroke. They don't even have their own. Sure. Kings I played strictly hockey. There's no like all star teams there was no. The best thing about back then I grew up in pembroke I went to civil lake, which was my highschool regional high school in my town still there silverlake. So now. We know if you come, you're playing hockey you gotta go to prep school you go to junior you don't play in high school and I think the best thing about. Playing high school everybody's into it. I know it was a quarterback and football. Catching base I played hockey all through high school. So high school was good. It was fun and you know Kinda like just an athlete and it was fun we I didn't know anything else. Really. Yeah. There's no at that time. There's no like summer teams. There's no anything junior league. Jeff we if we skated for like we went to a campus seven days that was now in the summer let's Go Leo's camp. PEMBLETON and kill Tien for seven days and baseball I played baseball yeah. Hockey. Play at the tournament though you play in Quebec tournament I play at A. Time played the one year that we we didn't do too. Well, I, don't even really want because we. We were shocked and we got out of there pretty quick I actually didn't even ask you. Your time there, I always just bring it up. So where it can gloat that he wanted to the only thing i. Sure Kings. My Dad paid the coach. Let me off. You bring up silverlake and then like I always say when we talked to guys played public high school Hawk Minnesota's the best because they still have that program. From your town, it's just it's just sweet but like. Who who the other great players when you were in high school around here is that Roy, photography before you. It was body carpenter all case. Great. I remember watching these Saint John's prep and he was the man he was phenomenal player then. Guys like the. Active box team had like Borussia Annette Sweeney all those teams and it was Matignon like Stevie Leach. Matignon. Then have hockey now now but. When I was growing Matignon was like they want it all time. Zim. Saint. John's carpenter play where he was so good he was phenomenal. Why was I was? GonNa ask eighty three. You were drafted by the cans in the six round. Had you committed to Boston College yet? Yeah. I was already at p. c. you know what's funny. I didn't even know it got drafted. That was like my sister called me the next day instead. Drafted I drafted aware. Army. The worst one got drafted. He says, yeah. The Kings Jeff. Then I got a call after she called me someone called me. Back. Then it was like if you weren't in the top, you know no one went to the draft like they do now shit they're like I didn't even think I was going to I had no idea it was even in the draft look kind of life was just kind of going along I was at BC and I didn't like. Your freshman year. So I was asking my freshman year I get drafted or right pros going in I forget. But you know I didn't like I say I needed a lot of work you know I always I could score but I couldn't skate so it was kind of but. I didn't know I didn't know I even got drafted. That was kind of the knock like with. Skilled. Player skating was that we have that was the week that was the problem I am. Scored a lot of goals and I think the last year in college like thirty, seven goals three I play I play with. Play Luke Bryan Leach we had some. Great by most of the time, play with Kenny Hart Union Brown who was with jury for a long time but. Teams were phenomenal. We never really one we top rated team in the country I think three out of four years we never won and wins the final four once. But but that that helped me like Paul Vincent used to come in he put me in a rubber suit. I get an his rubber suit I couldn't get elected. Guy. Sorry. I'm the only guy in a suit my why am I robert suit everybody's hung over I'm sitting in a rubber suit sweating to death and like. In, his rubber suit. But it helped me escape a little bit and then The way I learned how to skate was at the Olympics you know. Worked out. I was four years. And the Olympic I need all these years. You know these guys are commodity eighteen, thousand, nine, hundred phenomenal to me. It's like I know because I needed the four years at BC the Olympic Year Jim we skated for eight months together we Jack Blatherwick Satan. Coach and he was phenomenal and agent yeah he was awesome on Koa rate bunch of guys that teams so much fun on the Olympics in what is in Calgor- okay. But we traveled eight months travel around like Oh my best friend Scott young album like O clock on. Tony. We had team rector interfere in that way that team was so much. told me. Great guys. And we traveled together and we all get along was phenomenal. So you're going in your last year it be guys ended up signing leach in hit. Did you guys have any idea what the sky was going to bring to teams from Corpus? Christi? Has. Your fucking. School. Though he was he'd try. I need he was down at Cheshire Connecticut but. We didn't really know but he came anyone Hobie like freshman year. He was that he was that good. He was like freshman year then obviously wants the Olympics and he was phenomenal. Janney was the same way they came together. They were friends they played at the same prep schools. And they great Janney was the same way not we all not much skater even in the NHL but hands. The ICE, like it's like, it's crazy leaky was just the opposite skate skate skate forever and never get tired down the ice from Montana time never come off. So you think your time with the US national program really help you prepare yourself national. because. I developed kind of late I I didn't play on the US teams. I didn't make any teams on any. I kinda got own the world championship team I played on before the Olympics that year before the Olympics and that's kind of where they kind of find a little bit about me. Then one thing led to another and I made that team and. That eight months was the most important part of my eight months just because like I score like decent hands and we have these enhance you play with good centerman. That's that's the whole battle. We, all know if you have good Tenement, you have cinema dumping in Gardellin. Sentiment like handle the Puck I, got the area to score but the skating when you when you Kind of. Skate and then figure it out how I could get better. That was a big part of. It was when you would travel around leading up to the Games. Would you play college team similar to like eighteen? We play mostly college teams, which we arm you know. So we have a great time, they always have these party. We know we had a phenomenal time like those guys such great guys, and then then we've played some of the NHL teams and that's when it kind of got difficult but we knew back then it was the pros playing for the other teams well amateur for us but we know we had Richard Theresa through great goals but we knew we those guys get hot just like the can't beat those teams. If I go, we don't steal a games. They play well, and we lost the six checks or something like obviously there's a lot of goals to give up put. It wasn't their fault. But? Yeah, those seems. Who's the coach of that Team Day Peterson Ben? Smith was your sister Okay and A lot of fun a laughs. When did you at what point did L. A. Trade your rights to Pittsburgh La traded my rights. Kind of right in. Right I think sophomore frustrated right at the beginning of call early. Yeah. So like I said, I didn't do nothing. Big Deal I didn't know who cares Pittsburgh. You know I didn't even know like. Bruins fan I didn't know really what else is going on and I was telling. Okay I traded w. what am I saw then then I finally like you know my studio year, they had a scout come out a couple times to talk to them. Yeah. This is pretty good. You know that was coming on their enemy. A. Free Out of this looking. Pretty good also. kind of like yeah. But then it Kinda just going from there. Maybe you know maybe I can I don't know I, get a shot and the Olympic team gave me that opportunity and then you go from the Olympics to at one of the best players in the World Mario Lemieux who's finishing off one hundred sixty, eight point campaign in seventy seven games. That's a pretty young locker room. We immediately pulled online late. Think. They put me with them like when I first came to the picture right after the Olympics in February. So they put me Kane and played with them. Right after that, I couldn't play with shoving the PUCK skates. All Yourself at this is when he yells for it and he had four guys on my, give it to me I was Kinda like yell for you want you got guys on I'll give it to you. Always. Wanted. and. I was like panicky. I didn't know Mario. If you want to give him the puck yeah. So. That didn't work out for a while but then the next year I came in. Johnny Colin the next year actually I get the chain managing around I got sent down. So when I came in in February, got like seven goals in seventeen games or something and I thought I'm on the team, make the team high. The next thing you know. Yeah. I'll get sat down I didn't have a great campus. It took things for granted probably. Probably helped me a little bit but I went down in. Muskegon with chew. Muskegon, top place, where is that Michigan Okay and? Way Out Michigan. Where you go to get there you know it's kind of one of those places that you just don't want to be at. Paper Mills snowing all the time on the lake. Wasn't. Out there I think I was making. I was making like fifty five thousand dollars down there. It was like making fifty, five million. I couldn't cash checking Copenhagen say, can you come back tomorrow eighteen hundred dollars? So I was like that was. That was an interesting place, but it was you know I learned a lot down there. We had a great bunch you guys down there too. I remember the first day at come in their. Practice Mitch Wilson, Patty Mayor. Two guys. That fight that fight is our tough guys great guys, I love them both but they come in and they both got. The face paint with guns on his show my. I'm calling this the first time I, walk into Lago. These guys play on the team when they doing, they're going hunt they go they get up at three in the morning. Sitting perch hunts to practice faces A. Pace the pain of the how on. That was the first couple of days. Yeah. I'm like Oh my goodness where am I? What what's going on down I get back to the NHL Hockey. That's how I went up and down five times has great time. Really Kinda screwing. A couple of times I wouldn't play go up wouldn't play come down. I just kind of stuck with it. As Long Time Sally a big physical guy like getting challenged and fighting then I remember the first time I went to honored David Maley who who, I am friends with now. But back, then like we played in a world, we played in that my most festivals they had. Played in one of those, like a fight off I never anyway. He just didn't like me for some reason I game. We Don- We, played his team volume three to fight elect three very time like he's just he's coming out to me. And he's like. I'm not like yeah. I can hold on I hit a couple of I. wanted to go down there or get this thing over with quick you know. The third time, I. Really GonNA. Come again like just kept commonly that was kind of like the first experience and it was. You had to stick up for yourself just to wise that that time. Doing if you did it, then you kind of get left alone a little bit than if he scored a few goals and then but that's just the way it was that was. A Lot. That was good time I learned a lot played great guy you play with mark. Rex's air in Muskegon. Together. Down Yeah. I remember one time we come off the road. This is Chris, we come off the Roller Reagan Denver. Hussein at the hotel because her up and down all the time. So we come back hotel at three in the Morning Hotel Shutdown Is An arrow going over here to the it says, Muskegon players close. We had closed hotel Arrow right to seven eleven. We had to go pick toes the seven eleven. Hotel combs who literally like wherever? I stuffed in the back room at the seven eleven. The Guy The guy has it down and we had to check another hotel and those are the things that I remember about like those time. Now you think about imagine I think at one point maybe they're just fucking with you in order to motivate you to get. When that win the close. Hotels close. We need closer. Road gone five days and he had to the seven eleven that was a classic. I know probably a lot of young listeners have never even seen Mario play probably just on clips once you become a regular, you know you're not gonNA get sent down anymore like. Still Pinch yourself every day that you get to like. Play with this guy to go to work with him. Yeah he was phenomenal. It was amazing like just a stuffy didn't like then he's not getting all the but just I remember coming up one night. Come into locker room and I hear scores eighty nine goal year on my mind I. Out Your. The announcer say eighty nine, the year I'm like Oh, my God. That's just a different when you hear that it's Kinda like but he he's such a great guy when you get when you get the nome and get to meet him and not was starting to get better and he felt at the team was getting better he was. He's a guy's guy lot of fun to hang around with. So then yager comes in right and you're like Whoa. Guessing because even now is English isn't like Greg. Then it must have been exists not knowing I remember like like he would like. Big. Thing about eighteen years old any of us going to check like not speaking that language man I'd be I'd be lobby devastate I wouldn't be there at all ever. You know. So he came over his mom came with him by Tom No, the language brutal and he he hung in there. But those days US crying days he was really upset he couldn't handle. And everybody tried to help. Then crank Patrick to made some great decisions. He got a couple of checks in here he dean Straka he bought like four or five guys that he could relate to and that really helped because you're struggling with it you know he was like. I. WanNa Stanley Cup. He was a third line guy he had twenty goals, but you know it's going to be. But. You know he was playing with Trotsky was a third leg I think about that on that. Team we had. A joke? Yeah. You know it's just like so many players. Mario was great. He was a good leader. Got Some huge goal. Well, yeah. You went from the year before you guys didn't make playoffs like coming into that season where you well aware you guys not only had that young core group. It started adding these pieces around where we're expectations that you're you guys wanted the first year going into training. I. Think you know I think we're good enough player we had. Johnny Carson was getting one hundred points seven. He was a phenomenal player reckless coming up. They had me they had Mario was playing bobby we got cough game harasha scheme. You know all these pieces fall in place in coffee brought this attitude with you know we're going to win no matter what he brought a great attitude he's Tana Psych. Off The each how we should you know work back then it wasn't like now A. Set schedule everybody goes works out together. You can leave if you want to wear actors just go home, grab a sandwich days over but cough kind of pulled together and he was a big part of getting a young guys really work and work, and we worked out off the I was one of the first time. We worked out, but it was nice to have that drive with everybody kind of pulling the same direction I got to experience. Trip to the finals but overall the penguins and like the fan diehard they are. So the year before you won cop in, you missed the playoffs was it already crazy then because Mario was there or was it not really like what was what were the fans like then the fan the fans are good and they're. They kind of. Talk Yeah. Mario brought Meyer is going to bring fans anywhere. So it was there there was a gathering to it but. That year we one man. Share I remember you know you go into. The playoffs you go. Pull into the parking lot and his five thousand people in their three thirty nine to noon. Awesome. You know then. Viewed weather, you get into the people they never wanna cop their people going crazy. Then then you get into the locker room and forty minutes before the game packed outside if you take a stick and the Eagle back in, you can hear them merely that place Igla was on the best. So in the fans are so phenomenal. We just had like was that run we had it was a big part and they would create. That I just looking at the playoff numbers, I mean you had thirty three points forty four playoff points in twenty three games before. It's twenty hours at sixteen goals. Twenty eight assists would you what he ever get frustrated with you? You just like go to the net. A, good. He he would get rushing. You know he wanted me to school he when. He wants that puck in the net. If you miss it, he's good enough to pass it to someone else. Like. Until good those guys out and it's like. Any always wanted to like score and scoring better I. think he he helped me with that a lot and we became good friends when I became good friends on off the ice who kind kind of like you know then the on the stuff how because I wasn't scared to like say I can't give it to you now. because. He opened but even like he wants to talk all the time and he was one of those guys that you know he's just got give it to him. He wants all these they want a neutral zone. Yeah. Get Zone I'll get the blue line you drive an open up tonight just go within that. They don't take it outside the vein then open that. They take walk around making play, but he just wanted me to go an antique is. So long as I could give them some space. Guys since crazy now they hit already started giving guys their own day with the Cup by then right? No. The s like it was more of. Is it together. Okay. So we didn't have the I don't think I had at that time, but it was. It was just starting to get that but as more like. There wasn't a guy all around. You know it was more of yeah if you get it you. Even, even like that. We didn't fall after nights out. Anymore? No one was following. Paddock on one hundred eighty. A COP. I left like at five thirty. There's no room in the car for the cowboys, fucking hey that's how they thought of the theme of the movie hangover. Let's go back to the payments days where they had to trace back. To find this cops. Akin. Early in the morning I just got into it. We're all. The, couples, the couple is nowhere to be found what we found it somewhere I wanNA guys had it in a Limo Dilemma Guy had I think the guy who's driving around Someone's just left in a Limo I went to when the house the Limo guys. Meeting. Girls, he's. You gotta see what I got in my truck backup bowl. Like the social media craze you be on the road. Would it still be nuts for Mario in terms of people waiting to? Crazy like crazy. I remember being in. Vancouver and. Places crazy. You know you guys know the best three. I remember walking in the third day after the game went out. We came in two of the more whatever after and there was a kids came out and I've been sleeping three days. Three days in his car. To sign it from but but that's how crazy like three days. When I play with Gretz in. New. York. He's like how's years Myra was really big wretches like really yeah. Yeah. Different. I did you see the Jordan documentary it was Kinda like that? Yeah Grad scripts but Gretz is Mario's wasn't as. Kind of he wanted Cena background language to at the. And it was you know he didn't. But then he you know they learned it but he's still want to be in a little bit in the background like he'd do what? He obviously do what he could to promote the league and all that stuff but he didn't want to go Grad says more of the guy the front you know he didn't mind it. He was great with it. You know he's great I was great with people and he really an Indian mind that part of it. We could probably spend a whole episode on guys you've play with but now going into that second year, you guys still have that very strong nucleus but you guys you guys didn't get off to a great start I. Don't think we did I think I wonder why yeah. Still looking for the cop either. I didn't account was holding out for a contract, but it wasn't. He didn't hold I just didn't. But then we went on like a twelve day trip at the beginning like a training camp and we'll flying. Flying Around one year we find out. L.. A. Six, we played them six times because Gretzky Mario, we played them up these neutral sites all over the place we were hanging out la. Best friends you know and we're playing. Playing golf playing volleyball against him. Yeah. We want to play the Games. It's kind of like all that stuff on it but then he that value is holding out we didn't. We want to Calvin. The team was very self motivated but I don't think even when they came back off trip tall neither saying you guys get even bring your equipment I was sitting out and I was in better shape when those guys came back, guys skate it all out. There's this kind of like hang out play volleyball golf but that's that's back. Then it was a little different than We kind of. Like you said, we knew how much talent we had that team was loaded with talent. Well, it's up to turn it on the first half when you. Sneak in and the crazy thing is since then Detroit Ninety seven, ninety, nine, the penguins again. No, one's been able to go back and so difficult the playoffs started. It was the same thing. Where do you guys are so good? Yeah we were good. We we kind of we were getting ready. We building up to you know we had a great bunch of we. We honestly thought every game we could win. I've never been on a team. We know every single night we put skates on no matter what where we're playing we can win and that was a good feeling. That's that's something we built up and we had so much chemistry on that team guys. Guys. Second powerplays like Yoga Second Paul. Joey Mulligan five hundred goals maybe getting the time maybe not. was. One of the best of all favor the greatest guy world trousers you brought so much team when we want to cops when he knew he was just that third penalty. He was great with Yoga. That's all. Very peas or any hill you so many guys. Are older that kind of pulled in they didn't care when they weren't playing. They help on you guys ended up picking up talk at. At the deadline. So that must have been a big thing moment just given probably how the regular season going in the dog days and all of a sudden you get. Another injection of a guy who's built. Talk was great like we trade rex, who one of my best friends but talks like one of my best friends also, it's kind like talk was like he came into right we got Shell Samuelson to was like shells and he was huge team like just one big lugs. Got Guys. Dirty doing win. Yeah know. Slob I remember planning answer he's still heavy. But he getting him and then we got Kenny Reagan. So Got That was a good trade. Talk was great talks a great guy. He was one of those guys that came into fit in right away the first game talking we played San Jose and. San Jose. San Jose, that's when they weren't expansion. They were bad wreckage home. It used to be pointing night yet get at least three points and. I'm playing with to me Mario and talk. Model that and I had seven point. Hattrick in the first period first game he's like he's Kathleen Philly like chugging along. Yeah. First game comes gets a hat trick. He gets six points I'm on the line get none. None. Said even possible. I was I was going this way. They were GONNA. That's when I had one hundred was second leading scorer in the League. And when you get no points to get San Jose, you want to commit suicide okay. If you win like thirty and points. Thirteen that. That's still a joke talk retirement. Hey, remember that I mean we got over that night and I got none. Did you did you finish Second League scoring that you're it? Yeah and that was a year where Mario? I think played fourteen game. You got her I remember I remember that was funny because I'm in the leader of the Palestinians behind me like Oh my God, I might win this thing. I'm saying Mayer take some time just. A little time relax. We'll take care of this and he came back. He beat me my life by twenty point. Back. Like he got like Sixteen Games get like thirty eight point. Five is sleeper third guy in NHL history would outscore Gretzky in the regular right and I think it was it was his thirteenth year. Yeah. Hundred Year Sport. I snuck by when he was fifty three. I want to mention Scotty Bowman neoplasia plan for a couple of years was the master ahead. They can imagine all those players although and goes like and he must have to be like all adjust. He was good. He always Scotty Ours Barry. Smith Appear Maguire. They're always traveled those. Guys they brought him when you coach you know and. Scott whose great great bench coach really saw the game like really know how to control the bench but practice. Wise. Manchester they wouldn't even let him on those. Around. Me Gene in the general manager and we took voting Violeta. Coach. So we had no so Scotus go. He talks. I guess. You can just stay in buffalo with the family flying for the Games. Coming ten thirty, you know you gotTA. Grab, Grab pre-game jump on the bench show. That's how craziest thing was. He got vetoed out and then. He came back even have. I could. Maybe agreed to I don't know but it just didn't show practices I'm like. I want to be there like sorry Mario's. And love to blow the Whistle Scotty. He's a teacher wanted to talk. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with it but back back those days it was more of. Forty minutes forty five minutes good pace. Get off you go grab lunch call today and that's but Scotty hour and twenty minutes guys like call and see. Any blow whereas chain work on changeups? Yeah we're. GonNa. Work on changing. I've seen so many clips to the oilers in their hand they're practicing no buckets. No Shoulder. Was the same for you guys. Out there, I don't know how on probably never wear helmet practice. No one might be one guy out. There is hair. I. Held. On so it's Kinda like. That was the greatest thing. Homemade. Pads if you want them, you know it's kind of like it was. It was just different. You know but we know. About that team was so good. We knew how to win. We knew at game time we're GONNA show up. No matter what. That's that's something. We all believed in you. Know obviously. What you made your career was the injury. Obviously, hate the bring it up but. We did agree bring it up before. Playoffs in ninety three, go to hit. On, with a check and you get yourself knocked out when you hit the ice, you're already I mean, it's it's awful to watch watch it again today and that kind of set. You want a tough topic that that was kind of. Year just talk about they were going for a Third Cup by far your Best Fair Popeye far seen we want eighteen games and role that year without like a tyrant. That's when they had five minutes is know we went eighteen game team loaded loaded with players. And, we just GonNa win and then Yeah. That was game seven. You know I remember game six against four to two in Long Island you know and. We should have finish him off that night anytime you get game seven we didn't. We didn't. They come back and beat a six four it was like. That team kind of drove us a little bit crazy. The Casper destroyed myrow knots you know. So it was kind of like they had a few guys that could really drive us nuts and that time I got I got a penalty fifteen seconds in the game with the guy. So I was in the box and then peel always kind of battlefield on for like fifteen years. Really. Big strong hacker late Indian like really tough kid and I saw him coming and I went. Oh my God you see the check I got him good. All going smoke them when I walked. I gotta go looking went went flying by but I kind of jumped in here. He had hurt his he had hurt his high you know. So it was more he never worked shield, but he had it on this time because he had heard his I you know that's a hidden temple and I hit him. Knocked out in the air and I couldn't put my hands down and that was kind of when. I. Got hurt and kind of. All the other stuff happens I get getting hospital pain medication and it kind of took on a path that ran me for a long time next year though you still had over forty goals, it was his struggle. Hover from all that Serbia recovery was fine. I didn't get to work out and all. That kinda. Shit. And September come back and take it easy and. I did that and then. But. It was tough season was was in and out. Okay. Sometimes not not great but I scored but we didn't. We didn't win that year. So that's when it kind of said. You know we got to break this team up a little bit. You know, and then you with Boston was a bit of a home. It wasn't. It wasn't an ideal situation now or anybody to come home regatta. In. Good. That was kind of in the midst of addiction. So it's kind of like know it's hard but we all know the be a great player and. Score goals the be the best way you can be. It has to be one hundred percent focus and I I was trying the great wife. She took care I didn't have anything. She took it all the kids she took care. She was awesome. You know and it was kind of. Was Now but now this thing that I didn't know I. didn't know really why I never had it. I didn't even know what addiction really was like no no one in my wasn't something that but it kind of slowly crept into my life. If anybody if you know about addiction, it's tough. You don't put halt on it. And that was actually the last year that Cam neely played as well. Yeah really. Yeah. He ended up retiring at the end of that here the hip and knee stuff and he was he was great player man. You Talk to some guys when they end up do coming home and they find a lot more of a distraction given that you're you're not far from your hometown and people are you costing asking for tickets and and you also mentioned the personal struggles? Was it like? Was it probably the worst case scenario for you coming home I think I think it was a worst case because of the addiction part of it I don't think coming home if I if. I think it's harder but if play if you play well, it's great. I think it's a little bit harder but I think the whole thing I got off to a bad start I wasn't scoring. The team was supposed to win. We weren't winning. I thought I came here to play with Genelius, it was playing with Todd Alex. so it's just kind of a lot of a lot of different things. CAST was a new coach of pressure on him. So there wasn't there wasn't live. There's a lot of things going on in the team to you know. I didn't play. Well, you know do you think that like everyone on the team was aware what with what you were going through? They were they were I think they might do a few but but it wasn't like I was doing stuff all the time. It wasn't like I was like, but it was all my mind addictions more of a mental thing if the physical part of the physical part of that's bad. But when you when you don't when you're an addict and you're not doing it. Has A lot. Your brain is thinking about it possesses some space. To be an advocate athlete a good doctor. Good anything. Right you gotTa have that focus and it wasn't. Wasn't making me be able to do that all the time and became I can't I wasn't. Donald Myself I wasn't score all know how that goes into everything just kind of snow. So it was tough I was only here four games. So you got traded to L. A.. Yeah. I mean I guess it's good in a sense as far as you can go still your bad on the same things I was the the king's teams. Thanks. Young Larry? Coach was awesome. Awesome. Awesome Guy One. One of the best guys messed hockey and he was helped he was really a big help me in in China point the team was young we really were. Trying to build and they were trying to build a good team out there. So I was like a year and a half I loved La La was like, yeah I like I say we're East Coast. Bichir out that way but it's so nice. Weather was so I didn't realize like how nice it was all the time, and if you could ever went like they want cops out there but I could imagine if you could have a win over there man, I want to a great place to live you go from playing. Well, you play with the two best players of all time arguably right with Ueno. There and at that point like like going from playing with Mario. I always ask people who play with both what was the biggest difference that you noticed in the based on on ice play. I. Think I think obviously gratitude towards the end. But I think they both kind. They see the game a little step ahead of you know they pulled great but the physical stature of Mario six five like hey. You can't. Look at Gretz WHO's a smaller guy? Does the same thing. It's phenomenal. Look at how we get all points in a tough league wasn't the League whether like it is now you could bury guy you know he obviously had guys that could help them whatever but you had to be aware and had to be ready at all times and he was. Gretz is just a great guy. I was in la I went to New York for four years I was there with them for a while. That's why I got to know him really good and he's just. The best like you're talking about superstars you know I don't know all the sports but I know we have the two best you know best guys to. You mentioned too tough league and of course, Mar Mario and Wayne taken the abuse. Still at that point in time you're probably brought into also acting in given your numbers as far as not only offense penalty minutes. Wise. Did did you did you reach a point where you just didn't have that natural that that want to go out there and and keep scrapping and? That was when I was that was never I didn't really like I fought guys like defense that could play like. You know like a Buca Bouma someone like that Danika little bit. You know we're fighting your head I didn't have to fight the guys are animalistic. went out there and fought. You know so so it was really good when I first came in that. was like with Jay Caufield and Richardson Mike with the two guys if fighting I was on the fourth Iowa and that's how I kind of learned. They were great. Great. Great guys. Jj Good friend of mine. He's a great guy and they would say you described the fence and we'll take the tough guy. And that's how you learn game through these guys and that's that's how you do it, and that's that's basically what it did. I didn't have to really. Dump it by when talking more now than. Not Much Geyser. Pop Upon I. Don't know if there's anybody tougher. I I remember one of the first next exhibition game Danny PL was tough kid really tough. We're playing auto when I. AM. Come up to talk like open a face off days a defenseman because I was just talk. You're my idol. I got to fight you three times. You hear you believe in. What's going to happen in the next? Thirteen. Years in an opponent three times. Three times though Shane? talked to she fought denny came asked him why he fight and they play a little bit second period fight narrow therapy talk pm. beat him. So any through through his own parents, you kind of the effects. Sign a stick for you and how the trainer send it over. Three times I stuck Danny. Michigan it went. When I was playing in the NHL, it was, you know have a trainer signed the stick. Stick and had the trainers Senate over then it was like I want you to. Fuck and face. Watching knuckle. Eyeball talks because, hey, look you believe this. Great. I want to go back to an incident in Boston while you were here you mentioned Steve. Than it was in Toronto I believe he dresses both you in nearly just stable you guys. Which is a terrible coaching decision you shortening yourself by two forwards and? In it I remember this in addition to embarrassing to to well respected veterans was that the most you've ever seen a coach loser a Roman. He was you could see like he saw Peter Paul and I'm like crazy he's like is he's up about like for me I was if thirty games, right. You could be one of Benjamin Bench me right neely who Steve Kerr. Can't because I thought for this jackass? Walk. For, this guy. Hit me in. Toronto like probably one top five ever bruins play you know plus battle to employ. The Guy who gave everything for that team, you know for me I just got a embarrassed me. Like if I went to Pittsburgh and they did that to me like The guys guys, guys. So you can't do that. You know we're never happening pitcher because guys wouldn't let that happen. You know the even go to practice. Look. You're GONNA bench him. Sit in the stands you know put skates on. The bench after every face off, they show show sitting. So did you know going in? You weren't gonNA play A. Game starting never called up all that. So dirty any call us like yeah, I think it caused the last minute left in the third nuts you think I'm going. I'm going on now you gotta be crazy. So he really did really. Look that says, yeah. Fuck off. It will be Gobi right out there. So a Lotta like yelling and screaming after the game. It was quiet. We live I think we lost about Vegas Tell Castro was he was trying to do the best job you could but it was kind of, as he played I think he coached a year in the mind came into the situation where we're may trades we're supposed to win. There's a lot of pressure on us to win not. So he's trying to figure out how to motivate the team and that was told the wrong way to do it with CAM wrong turn. Yeah. Yeah. Off Season Habits had you when you first started playing role where you training in the off season and I went out. First couple years trained back here. But then I went to La with tr Goodman Lati- are like those two beginning doing. And talk and. Talk with. So we talked had a house shelter. So we go out there for two months. Terrain there, and like we have eight or nine guys that there like training and and that was a great place to train La's guys L. as likely and it's yeah it was very strict if you wanted to train you come and train God night. So it was clear from the minute you start playing pro at some point there was a culture shift and the fact that you had to start keeping up to these young guys in off season became came less about. The only ICS touches the bottom of the cooler. Yeah. We. Fun but I never I never took time off really maybe a week here and there but I always tried to stay with the program. You know I love the right bike do that stuff and that was kind of a big part. But we had a great group of guys that we push kind of you know even days we didn't want to train we. We're there to train which was unusual because normally some. you go out. Then it's a little different than went out but was very great place to train when out there for a couple of months trained and kind it was a routine I had for a while besides the injury to your face in that unfortunate hit. was there. Did you battle other injuries and we're pretty lucky Couple of knee scope nothing I broke my ankle, a little crack, but nothing major and. I was Kinda after that it was there was really nothing nothing after that. But it was a struggle for a little bit after that I want to ask you if fourteen, the miracle on ice happened to we already all in hockey. Then the data that convert your little more I was pretty I love hockey I. Let the Big Bad Bruins I used to go by filling afternoon I remember going to Philly in Boston bruins like seventy guide seventy. Fights. Goodness this great now. One o'clock game be home at six, thirty, five, our game. Two guys. anche. But I. Love You. I. Love I. Love Hockey I. I wanted to play baseball but I didn't really know but that thing was awesome. You know that was free. That was so good that you know anything. Like. That stuff was just phenomenal stuff. You know. These days you've been doing a lot of public speaking every in regards to your sobriety. How's that been going that? was that a tough adjustment for you to talk about that? You guys the biggest thing about my story just tell the truth I tell them what happened I was like. I was on the top world, a first team, all star scoring fifty five goals and I. Tried them first cocaine was first thing that I don't know there's like I was twenty eight never did and never did anything in my life. You never even knew about it. He tried it and that was kind of like the thing that kind of set me off wherever you play and then in Pittsburgh? Okay. was that there were going for third cop we're in New York. City. Like yeah in the middle. Year. kind of like you know. Maybe a couple of weeks before before. I. Was like a twenty i. didn't know what really was like a twenty seconds decision I said Yeah but not no I didn't know as an addict I didn't know I thought I would do this right and I jump on the bus next day life would be like, say I didn't had no idea that it was going to affect it I really know what it was, but doing that changed my life right away but gradually grabbed me that was that was that grabbed me I in it, and that was that was like a ten second. So when I speak I, talk to these guys I was I. I love my life. I had a great way Ray family whatever and I tried something knowing that anything can happen. You don't know sitting out there like if you try something, you couldn't go down the path I taught world to China. In addictions more. It's not willpower. It's more than that. You need to recover. You know I think there's a misperception to that goes back to the injury saying, no, it actually the wheels emotional your diction issues predated the yeah, and that's the thing is right before that. But then then you get hurt and then you know obviously need payment of. So I open up a can of worms I didn't really know but I hadn't even thought about it. I. Just thought it was. This was going to be and. They weren't exactly open back then either like, oh, we're going to give you these. Off Anything. Like the cocaine I didn't really know what to do for some reason I made. With drinking with the guys out like the Twentieth Yeah Whatever Just like any other night and and. For the next twenty years it kind of changed half would do what I was going. I got to watch the short film like this shattered. Yeah. That was great and when did that come about and everything came about? A couple of years ago I was in. I was working with pen scout in. came out to buffalo and I, talked to a couple of guys and they said, do you WanNa do this and I was like I? I wasn't really sure about. The. Did, yeah I'm happy because I think. A lot of emails and texts to the Power Ford Foundation at the saying that it's helped some people by watches. And that's a big thing for me is I can help if it helps. So I'M NOT GONNA help everybody but if someone can look at some listening to speak and it helps one person and you know it's worth because I, know how hard it is to get so I know a hard addiction is people aren't You know. People, to to stop they don't get don't get that part. It's very hard like I wish I could say I was just stop I was I could tell people I know not just stop but I know how? Felt people said that to me and it's like you don't get it. Yeah. It's it's too hard. You know like if you don't have recovering, were you nervous at first about going up in front of people and telling your story? Would you take a push from somebody in order for you to get going on I? I was a little nervous I. Did you know some big hoops I and it was kind of like you know I just. But the best thing about it is that I don't have to really think about it. You know. You go motivational speaker. Think about stuff you know my story I went to be four years playing every. I had a great life. Great Wife. Everything in my life was if you I'd say basic, you wanted to life you one of my life, my life I'm playing alongside Lemieux I'm hockey player. I'm scoring fifty goals were winning Stanley, cups great family. La To work out and Sam Amick Great, and then I did this. I made that decision. That's that's a decision that I have. Now I can move pat but it took me a long time he doesn't like you don't get like now addiction. Everybody knows about it, which is good. Yeah. It's awesome. But back then it was more. What is What's wrong with this guy? Like, yeah. Why isn't he? I was biggest team guy in the world. I love my teams I love being with the guys that's like to me. That was like winning hockey games being guys that. That's my that was my life and then. We are very close knit team in Pittsburgh and then was what it was. We always together if it was a wise Estrin Pittsburgh. With us you know at the we didn't we didn't charter. So we went out after the Games we all met at the bar. Yeah. Has talked about the game and that was the best thing about now the chargers great people and get home. But no one talks about the game. You know we talk three or four hours a few bears with ten guys talking. That's why the stars are winning because they get the beers after the game. True and it helps back then. Back. Then our team was very close to. Help, that was so much fun while I. I can't thank you enough for coming in here already and I think, I. got to play with Mark Wreck and you say you love your teammates in all he said was everyone loved. So I think that says a lot about you as a guy and your career was using incredible. So we appreciate it. I appreciate you guys have. Longtime overnight my voice. Love you guys you. got some good players don't want. Guys signing pit and then my younger guy he's going to. He's going to freshman at Yale and my daughter just graduated union and she's got a job in New York City. Ca for. This is everybody's good to the boys good and everybody good and it just guy get your after two. Yeah. I know he didn't get Jay okay. He would have been drafted. He broke both legs he came here he was playing at Nobles. Broke his leg had like three surgeries. Came back the next played like seven games twelve goals he was leading the prep school is knowing approach. I always heard about him. Yeah. He was a great year broke his sanctions on. Three churches and that so you snap both ankles. Like, the tough ones and the healthy now go to there's now. Okay, good. He's just honestly you know you've skated this summer but. He's a good player. He's big strong. So hopefully you can. You know young so hopefully, you can man and. Nice to have a guy here that I wouldn't even try to off. Chestnut Hill. Steady. Win. You in. I was goose egg the wagon. Then we had we couldn't win a beeper like seven hall of famers. They couldn't win a be bought. We went to that being put three years and then one team in the country I think other with third, we played one final. Consolation game in America which is the basis or unlocked busy. Play, there's one person. Hot. Dog. Hockey. Thank you so much for joining. Great Great Messaging. Fans will appreciate it. Thanks for having because it was awesome. Absolutely. I just want to send a huge thanks to Kevin Stevens for not only join us but driving up to the city and joining us as well. How had a great chat with him? He's a he was a hell of a play man. He came of age during that the prototypical powerful at Arrowhead back with guys like you know. Khachatryan. Shanahan. And these guys were not necessarily redefine the game but just showing you, yeah, you can score fifty goals and punch some of these lights out to Kevin Stevens with certainly at the forefront of that movement. No doubt. As in Guy Yankee show much. Yeah. Big Banks to added a lot of fun. Well Gang now's the time to get your student loan payments under control, and you could be saving by refinancing your student loans with Ernest. If you've been making the same monthly payment on your student loans for the last couple years, odds could reduce your payment and save by refinancing with. Even, if you've refinanced before today's low rate environment, most people could save by refinancing. Again, checking your new rate is fast easy to start complete a few questions online only takes two minutes. 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So it was perfect I transferred over. So my last year high school, I took a male fitness grade nine geography. Great Eleven English current events, which was me having to bring in a newspaper article and writing about what I interpreted from the article which at one point I was failing in coach threatened to sit out a game. So I had to start passing I think I would like a C. minus and that was. In the last cost was religion. That was my that was five credits. I got my last year high school that helped me get my high school diploma. Parents drove all the way down from Canada to to watch. We walk up and get a thinking of. Tough Guy. In a sitting in a class with freshman. A. Geography Ninth Grade Geography A, and I was almost late for my graduation because I was getting my back tattooed that day. Shot all my God. Not. The scarecrow that one though. Not, the business the on the inside of my arm like some do Shailene. Times common. But yeah. That's that was my high school story voice one of the player related note to mock Andre flooring. He said he's fine with any lehner deal that comes up potential lane deal. He and this is Jim Jesse Grainger in the athletic he emphasized that he is not seeking trade in. If it were up to him, he would finish his career in Vegas The quote from back, Andre I, understand the business side of hockey and that might have to be moved but that's why they make the front. That's why the front office or the ones making the decision. So I know there some scuttlebutt about him being traded, but he absolutely in the emphasized, he's not looking for a trade He loves it where he is. So just WANNA pass along. His pretty funny video we saw somebody challenged Elliot's Pederson Peterson Pederson you get challenged online to do some Harlem globetrotter style dribbling. So he goes out he buys a basketball he he does version of what this kid did but he sat like his own music to and stuff this kids like a character. He's got his own team behind them, helping them out with all this stuff interacting with fans and really building brand, and he's a guy that we're going to get on pretty soon for an interview and and dive into this awesome unique personality that's taken over the the League or. Taken over the league. Yeah we get stuck in some more Europeans on like that. Elvis Moore's Leekens is one of my favorite interviews we've done this season he was great a raspy fellow. Another note, the cops were called and where else Florida, because fenzl yelling shoot and wasn't wasn't people in the Valkyrie, the Boston Garden either. pearly spokeswoman. Whatever department wasn't Florida four deputies responded in discovered. There were no domestic problems at the apartment question. It was a roommate screaming at the TV in regards to lighten game what that the cops went on the way? Just, a fucking funny medal. Erin. Someone's shows shoot in the playoffs. Obviously, some people still haven't bought that lightning. But Florida a lot of people down there right now, a lot of people go managing what the game. What the loud they'd be screaming at the game if there's is screaming at the TV to shoot. That's just like crazy to think but I did think you did you just mentioned Florida. All right weather absolutely because it is Florida's coming online on means January February March and Florida's the best place. It's a little warmer right now in the fall for fog hall. I WanNa talk to you guys about the Peter Millar quarters, ships because the these things I wear them every day they're the perfect. You can wear them around the house. You can wear them on the course, throw them in the bag. I've talked about it a bunch you gotta go to the Barstool Dot. com. Slash. 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That's the goal. So we played the other day little practice round. I think our best ball was three under. I. Think that if we can go out and have a day a couple of days, we could take this thing down. It's a loaded field bunch of former is so every team has a amateur and a and a pro, and we got some guys that two time defending champions. This is my first year playing in tournaments. So that's coming up really looking forward to that I'll be rocking. Quarters of the whole time you're be playing with the chocolate balls to that I was kissing her last content piece, God. Yeah. He's putting spin on those things you were kissing them you're touching them you would rubbing those tight pants were wearing all rubbing the balls all over them what we did get one rivalry in the last few days I'm not showy expected a friend of the program, a COUPLA recurring guest Sean Avery on himself a little tiff with. One of our co work is Alexandra Kupa, who, of course, host, the call, her daddy podcast apparently, they live in the same apartment building. Shawn's getting some work done and he has legal permits, everything legal and apparently Alex complaints that landlord about the noise because I guess she records a podcast every day I mean you know I know we do live different whatever not judge or anything just I guess she does a little bit each day. But. It ended up resulting and avery going on INSTAGRAM IAN is podcast. Deliverance very colorful quotes, Chevy cotton, and the of the mob is. Off Is. Not The quality but I knew about the drama because I saw a couple of headlines. But how the fuck do these to end up living in the same building and NYC seriously. Like. This is a this could've worked out any better like God must have put this together. or The or the or the devil. seriously. Well, how many shows does she do a week one? Correct. Yeah no I mean would it would like. It's just the funniest part was the was the landlord who called or who who called avery. Someone someone on behalf of the management I don't know if it was the super cell phone or whatever that woman had. No cool shoes ourself into or she's Elizabeth 'cause Guy. He's GonNa call some guy and he's in either it'd be like, yes or no and next thing you know it's it's turning into a content machine story because it's these two famous people in Newark battling and when he found when he found out, it was her he must've been es. I'm sure it is just perfect now because water watering idiot I mean you can't expect anyone to stop. They don't care they live next year they're trying to work on their place and if you have the paperwork and what you need to get done to do it people it socks, you will kick rocks that's life. Two. In the morning, it's fucking middle a day. Well, one thing to avery owns he owns in the building he owns that owns the chiefs and owns and I think she I think she self produces. Not Mistaken Celeste very why she works every day. Either I wasn't the only story coming out of Manhattan Biz. I guess they found a Man Cave Underneath Grand Central Station now as a former municipal workers out of jobs every fucking guy out there shits his pants a little when they read a story this is everybody who works whether you're custodian a train work any you know blue collar type job everybody got a fucking hideaway. I had them every school I worked at a little bit of a TV or radio a setup for your to report your podcast in the closet I had at all. So you see a story like that and it's like Oh shit they're gonNA find out about us but I think. Because of the fabled history of Grand Central Station, that's why it became a story because guys L. everyone gets the job done and use took four the you got to go do something I've been there. How do you? How do you personally feel about this? Are you love you bus love that shit you were recorded our podcast underneath the principal's desk when you are the janitor at that school do I would legit be in a closet with my finger on the modern like we would have like a legit like hall of Famer on and I'm like I hope Belleville Ring. Dan Joni Smith to the office Johnny Smith. The office hasn't prepared to ask this like hall of fame. Unbelievable those are the fucking days man I. We're almost get busted is that in the article who it was like finally it was underground and it's it was this little shelter. They had a flat screen TV they. I think they had met flick setup. Yeah. Somebody probably fucking. They probably lose their pension now though. Not If they got good union representative I'm not. I'm not sure what? Municipality Oh the fucking pays them but. It's actually okay because they're going to rent it out because you know three hundred square feet and they're going to rent it for ten grand a month and then no. So it'd be be it when we go down New York business. Down there. OSCE I know we're almost done here but hey, I, want to give props Lebron. James He's going to his ten finals in seventeen seasons. That's just an incredible stat. No matter how you look at it three time champion. He's one of the finals, MB MBP, all three times. I'm not showing the final stop because this odd the celts in my Miami still have to figure out things out these but I mean this guy I love my hey, man, you gotTa acknowledge his accomplishments I think he's the first player to ever lead his team to our to go to the finals with three separate franchises correct i. I I don't think I'm not sure if that's draw I mean if you wins it, that might be a different story but I mean it might have been some scrub fuck off the bench who's played. For for a few different teams, but either way, the what he's done is is nothing short of incredible show. Is completely made that status. So, what else is no one last note if I know hockey winding down, you're going to be looking for shit to watch specially while this already but Fargo is back on the year not only a tremendous movie from the Collins back in the nineties. But this is the fourth season of the TV show it's an anthology series. So you don't have to have seen the first three seasons that just Noel, new story that talent. Chris Rock Star. On this season along with Jason Schwartzman it looks tremendous. The reviews are good. So if you're looking for something to watch Fargo against that and last night Sunday night but nowadays streaming Ernie to see the other seasons you really don't know I mean if you're a Divo- t of the show than they might be some little injunction might China get but no, you don't have to see the first three in order to enjoy. A check out. All right boys I think that just about wraps next time we chat. Next time we chat, we're GONNA Stanley Cup winner fucking rather. that's crazy because this has been this has been a long one. So I appreciate you guys as always everyone listening. Thank you so much. It's been an absolute blast to cover this final crazy. What's happening one last chance wit one last chance you still got tapa. Tampa six I think I might have said, what did I say before the series Tampa sit up on six yeah. So this is this is about to happen and I got a lot of money riding on a to Barstool sports book if you're in Pennsylvania showed everyone that's. Made that thing off the ground and we'll chat with you guys. Thursday, piece out cost us as always elected. Thank our fantastic sponsors here spitting chocolates big. Thanks as always to our friends at New Amsterdam Vodka and pink. Whitney big. Thanks to a long standing friends over at Roman. We love what you do as Fellas. Big. Thanks to new friends at whoop. 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192: Hockey Parents Shouldn't Mistake Winning for Development; Our Epic NFL Playoff Gambling Battle

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192: Hockey Parents Shouldn't Mistake Winning for Development; Our Epic NFL Playoff Gambling Battle

"The Steve Worn project sports at whatever everybody welcome to our program. It's a podcast podcast devoted to sports. And whatever coming up we're going to get into a whole bunch of stuff. We're going to get into the Corey Perry story. He's being Dushi again. Canada Eh is off assured a spot in the medal round for the first time in a couple of years the super bowl odds are out golf. Season's back flipped on the under the studio Jimmy there and the first thing I hear all this Gulf announcer talk should players be fine for requesting a trade and a whole lot more coming up on the show. How you doing James Sound like? You're you're in a good mood dole out Stevie I sort of forgot you know I love. I love Christmas being on a Wednesday because I it a long time I I find. It's been a nice sort of long two weeks right the holiday. It's like what it's for some reason once on a Friday or Saturday right right. I don't it seems short always seem sure to me but this waking up gonNA feels like a Saturday you know. I don't know if I could only Thursday in great great and then I've been anticipating the start of the golf season and I keep thinking it's not for a couple of days and then I woke up today. Stevie the and flip on my phone and go teeing off this afternoon descent. Jury are so. Tell me about what this one is for. Those who don't a lot of I mean I'm sure lots of golf fans are like me. Were they really get keyed in for the majors. Maybe a few other things. But probably not that many jacked about taste like you are so tell us a little bit about what this one is is all about well. It's cool format so it's all the winners from the previous year. Well that simple I love that. Yeah so got all your winters from last year. which includes a bunch of top top? Ten Guys Rory's not there but you gotta gotTa Win. Dj and sharply Gary Woodland Records who won the US Open. Fowler just in terms of a bunch bunch of guys hang on D did you say. Are you telling you Roy didn't win last year. I don't I or he's not in it. I don't think I maybe maybe I'm wrong. Maybe maybe I'm wrong there so the other interesting thing is though is there's a bunch of so you know the top guys the household name guys. Are you know who won last year. But there's a bunch of guys who you wouldn't know who won last year You know keeping with that requirement to get in the tournament like outside of the top eighty and stuff like that so breath so so golf is sort of at that stage where the talent is is kinda turning over right. You're getting new new guys coming in and so that's where it's at right now right. It's like who are these guys. They won they won last year. Wolf and I I can name seven eight ten. Maybe fifteen guys that tournament that you would know their name mcelroy update by the way one four times in two thousand nineteen the other doc including the Canadian open. Yeah I don't know if he's on here though I don't I let me tell you in one second. If he's he might have passed. I guess yeah I don't see his name anyway so goals change it a little bit. There's there's new young kids coming up younger and younger all the time. The Kid who's leading it for exempt Neiman is a the kid from South America. Who's who won last year? I hadn't I hadn't heard of before then and I follow golf pretty closely. I'm not I'm I'm not crazy about it But I am crazy. Well I mean I probably would too if I right now. I'm just as such a winter mode right now. There's so many other sports to watch at the moment This one's just getting lost for me in terms of my radar of sports. Yeah it's it's like every other sport Steve we we we. We always sort of breakdown. Something where we have a lively discussion about contracts that are signed about for example. You know the outdoor game yesterday we sort of we we. We looked at that long. Playoff series relegation stuff. All of it always unfortunately absolutely all of it equates to dough all equates to money and sponsorship money and you know what. Why are these things in their wire wire you you know even even suspensions you know why was that guy sort of get half a probably what he should have gotten compared to someone else? Well that all equates to the legal we know we need our superstars. You know we gotTa Make Dole. We don't want to kick them out. We WanNA give them a little a little more breath than we would anybody else and and So this this golf is golf has gotten to that stage to where it's played year round now because right from January right to December. You think it's good for golf. After going all the time. You may chance to miss you. Yeah it I like it I like it. It's you know it's no different. I I guess than any other sport you know when you look at the Nhl you know which we talk about the most With big injuries is and guys getting hurt in this concussion syndrome. That has been in the news for a long time in the awareness is great about it. I'm still of the opinion until you change some big rules in in hockey. I you know I kind of laugh at at well. Here's what we're going to do about concussions. I just don't think there's enough there ever to change that. But one of the talks always shortened schedule. Short shorten the amount of games. These guys play and injury will stay down and then do you get a better product but There'll be no no no no no. We're not doing that if anything we'd like to add more games and play year round your I am by Steve. So I'm I'm the wrong guy to asked to say do you think there's too much golf It's the equivalent of about me asking you. Do you think there's too much hockey. But I'm assuming your answer would be no. I love it. Well I mean they do take some time off. That's all I mean even the Stanley Cup tick champions of the two Stanley Cup finalists. They're still going to get three months off If you missed the playoffs altogether and get five months off so I think it is. I think at least in terms of where my love of professional golf is I do like a little time away from it. Okay it's done and now we step step away and watch some other things when it come back to golf. It'll be fresh. It'll be something I'm excited for and But that's just me. We obviously different different Different passions for golf. I like it a lot and you are in. I want to marry it. Love it kind of thing. Let's take our first time out our first intermission and when we come back. We'll get into some hockey talk in the meantime. Don't sit out the season. Jim K four thinks you should get out there and enjoy it all with a twenty nineteen four. They're loaded with driving technology style. Alan Comfort everything. 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They said you can go bye bye and you had to make the very long lonely walk inside the cotton bowl back to his dressing room and it became a me on the Internet. People were putting as he took each step they're putting Squidward from Spongebob. The noises his his tentacles make as he walks. They had all kinds of different songs. that They're putting in their titanic music all that stuff so it became kind of viral carol on the Internet because of it but man that was just a an ugly hit from players that a lot of ugly moments in his career so that is the question. Today what do you think Corey. Perry will get get in the way of the suspension. Perry is claiming that it was totally unintentional. And I'm not buying. I'm at the stage now where that guy's has done enough things in his career where I say. Okay if it's if it's a murder that I've stumbled upon and there's a serial killer standing right over there I'm GonNa go ahead and I'm just assume that he might have had something to do with it and might have had ill intent. I think we're living in a time. Stevie wear suspensions are becoming way more attention pay to them. They're not just one offs. We gotTA SLAP The a couple of games gotTA give him three for that any mobile. Let's move along. Get get back in the game I think the the pressure has been on sports leagues for a long time to get serious about suspensions because up to now you know many many any stories over the years that we've been looking at sports incidences sports. A lot of it always is five. Grand is what the guy got fined signed for that like so the the money's going up the length of this suspension. The awareness about injury is gone up and I think you're GONNA see the League err on the side of caution as as as games as there's more and more games as the months go go by that. It's going to get more serious. You know so when you bring up these poll questions about what you think is suspension should be I think it's something. The league hostile looks at more way more seriously now than they have in the past. And it's GONNA be. I think they're gonNA I think if the League really wanted to make a statement I think what they should do is come forward and say okay. Suspensions are a minimum four games. And I think we're at a stage now like a con a comment like Corey. Perry had their of it was totally unintentional. That's is no longer a defense. It may well have been totally unintentional It may be there for all the is to see that it was totally unintentional. There's not much you can do about that one The answer traffic now needs to be particularly one of those sort of blindside hits where there's rotation of the neck those said to be some of the worst kinds of concussions and those need to be dealt with and the judge needs to say department of Playoffs whatever they need to say so so it's unintentional. No I don't care doesn't matter doesn't matter anymore. It's just that important that you need to you know. Start throwing the book at the Unintentional Hits as well I don't think this was unintentional by the way. Hey but even if it were I would still say. Yep that's too bad. It's unfortunate for you if that was unintentional. But he hit his head and that's the bottom line and That will send a message throughout the league that you better be frigging careful when you're deciding to blow up a guy and the League has does have a great example of what they've you've done and I think I think it's been the single most effective change and significant change in the game hockey when when the league sat down and said we got to get rid of clutching and grabbing okay and that was that was a while ago now okay amongst their other stuff that I think it just went shit you know the the the whatever that trapezoid thing is behind the net getting rid of the red line and shit like that you know. The icing was a good idea for safety right where they blow it dead now instead of instead of getting rammed into the boards. Some really good rule changes for sure. Yeah but that clutching grabbing was the most significant change in hockey in a long time and it changed the game for a positive positively. Most it wasn't to prevent injury Muslims to the play. It was fucking guy. Couldn't even get in front of the net without getting killed. And you could. You could grab the guy going by so so they have made that change. They made a statement. There were probably nervous service about this. God made this is. This is pretty effective. Change here but they have done it. I think five games is going to be about right for this one and But I'd be okay if it was more honestly late. Given the nature of the hit there was injury involved. Ellis left the game and his Corey Perry. That's a repeat offender in there and He's not exactly a superstar Estar any longer so you can make an example there with Aena too much trouble in Dallas Stars and it's just it's frustrating when we hear all the things we hear about headshots and concussions and C. t. e. and what You know guys were found to have C. T. E. DO late in their lives There's gotTa be more more player respect. They gotta be no. There's GONNA be knowledge they're like the you gotta be careful and if you if you can't safely hit a player without clipping him in the head Ed or the jaw then you can't make that hit. You have to come up with a better defensive game plan at that stage of the game and while the NHLPA doesn't jump in and get involved with something like this particularly for guys like Corey Perry who's been just an running amok in the membership throws entire career the NHLPA will always. He's back the guy that committed the sin to save his his bank account. Yeah not so much about keeping everybody safe in the NHL PA.. which is I think an even more important things than what they generally do? And that's the finances. I think I think all that stuff steve start with kids right to and I think we're out of time time when the kids hockey now there. There's a you know things in in in minor hockey that are completely you know tolerance okay no tolerance meaning. You're getting booted out of the game. You're you know you're GONNA get suspended you know parents get kicked out of the arena arena. So there's not that pressure on these kids. You know with parents undermining coaches and undermining the safety of the play all that stuff. So there's a bunch of things that they've done over the last several years. Here's to change the game in hockey for example. There's no fighting right. Can't fight minor hockey. Correct your kid you get kicked out you you get kicked out so I think some of that. Steve is going to begin to morph into two when these kids who are playing now who are going to be the future stars in the NHL. That that that the tone of the game is going to change you know that the guts of it is going to change the way it is now so all right Speaking to the youngsters in the game world junior team is now assured sort of a spot in the medal round candidate just slaughtered slow Vaki today. Got Alexi La Frontera back in the lineup. They didn't really need to put him in the lineup. He suffered for that knee injury and was some real worry there because you get hurt in that game against Russia that he might be out for the tournament and he comes back in a game against Slovakia. I don't know if I'm the agent even if you're ready to that guy's about to make jillion dollars is the number one overall draft pick in the NHL and the money that he's about to make down the line and you're taking on Slovak. Yeah I understand. It's an elimination game but I don't know if I'm bothering to let that guy suit up for a game like that. One in any event candidate is through. And we'll take on Finland in the next round the team that beat them out last year went onto win at all. Yeah I watched the highlights of the game on ever Canada great win great rebound of course. The story rank zipped thereby Russia so hell I think it's a not credit always to the coach to in these must win games to turn that team around just got annihilated. I think that's a good point because I think a lot of people say you know that. There's sometimes a blessing in disguise to lose a game in a short tournament like that as badly as they did. Remember these are all teenage boys. They're so emotional A lot of them are coming in as the I mean almost every one of them are coming in as the best player on their junior teams back home and this probably a level of ego there. There's a level level of confidence there and maybe the bat for a coach. Dale Hunter That that's a blessing in disguise to get work the way they did against Russia six to one that now anything the deal hunter says they're going to buy into whereas if they just sort of trampling everybody along the way they might say. Well we got this. We get this worked out. We're we're God's we were going to figure this out right when the whole thing. I think that that was probably a blessing in disguise to lose that one because in the three games since they've looked very very good now they're playing lesser teams but they seem to be on their way coaching junior team. Steven my mind is is is is more of a parent role than it is a coach and yes. It's because they're so so young. I look at it like parenting. You know you got a kid of yours. That is down and out You know that is experiencing a lot of tough situation a lot of failure and stuff like that you gotta kick it into. High gear is apparent. Here you know you gotta gotTa what am I going to do about. My son was failing school. Who's who got cut from the team team? Most parents don't go to the okay. Well you know you deserve it you gotta work harder. Life's hard lessons that sort of Shit Shit right most parents that I. Oh my God I gotta get my kid. I gotTa Hug him for the next hour and tell them everything's fine. Everything will be okay and I bet coach in a world junior team has not not that much off of that not much of a stretch from that. But it's still a lot of coaching going on. Just not so much you know deal hunters in London. He gets to know the guys. He is note how how to push buttons on each individual player. The reality is there just isn't time to get into all that stuff but they're still line shuffling there's you know motivating the guys there's the systems you put in play that work best for these guys. It's in game. Adjustments in tournament adjustments all of those things. So there's lots of coaching going on. But not quite wait to the extent that you'll see back with junior teams in North America. Yup I'll tell you I got a great story about that. Actually important coaching is who who was Was it the general manager. Nice Great Guy. Low Reactor Steve and we were doing the show Johnson and was his last name. Marshall Johnson Marshall Johnson right was he a GM he was so Marshall Johnson. I have a story about him. I I I have a friend of mine a best friend of Mine Darryl Who played high level minor hockey? He went to Denver. University got a scholarship Played their got drafted by the authors and then spent the rest of his career over the next little while in the minors and then his hockey career was finished so he had a very typical career as a as a young hockey player of a kid. WHO's GonNa make it to the League at at the minimum level which he did okay got drafted never never played played on the farm team and stuff like that and I remember talking to him and I said you know what what was it like man? You know when you when you got to play for Denver Man. That's Great College. Great Hockey College and he said you know what he said. I had a bunch of fear you know. Oh I was young. I was leaving home for the first time I was homesick. wasn't all it was cut out to be you know Whoa wasn't wasn't quite the ecstatic guy. People would think and he said it when you look at it. A lot of these guys are in that same position that they're plucked from their homes and shoved into this hockey world. He said if it wasn't for Marshall Johnson was the head coach of Denver University when he played there years ago and he said Marshall Joe. If it wasn't for him he would have been a totally different guy. Not a hockey player but a totally different person. Listen and He understood that a lot of the parents who are speaking kid being fearful these parents are gut wrenched about having to let their kid go at such a vulnerable age and go play these universities. And Yeah Yeah. It's great time for them and all that and they're they're superstars in the early but talk to any parent and they'll tell you. I hope this coach is not a maniac because their role is a bunch of parenting. At that time. You know and And that's what he took away from that you know he took away he said the guy shaped me into being the man I am today and this guy. Darryl is an unbelievable guy is the most wonderful guy in the world. Generous Chris and hardworking and and he's very loyal friend of mine and he says all of that was due to this Guy Marshall Johnson when he was played for Denver for those three or four years. I coaches are so huge. They're worth their weight in gold. The good ones and we've talked so much about the pros in the bill peters effect and all the other stuff Where you know these these are paid athletes and so it's still wrong and Bill? Peters deserve to lose his job for the stuffy did but at the end of nee these are pros and these are men who consider handle themselves a little more than say the amateurs were always worry about. You know when you're an amateur. You're still a kid and he'd being sent off to these universities. You still a kid if you're being sent off to play the Interior Hockey League somewhere and it has everything to have a coach. Who is not only good at what he does that? It helps develop these players but also kind that has also taken these guys under their wings not treating them like assets treating them like machines that you know if that guys guys that machine's not working over there let's go kick it to make it work better for everybody that makes an NC AA. I scholarship Then I can point to somebody who went there and had an miserable experience either because they didn't get chance to play very much or they You now the coach was just a jerk. And that's that's the unfortunate thing about it so while it's nice to see that we saw a little. NHL Blip of coaches getting their act together. And and you know the guys who are doing it right paying a price I really want. I really hope that we continue to shine light on. What's going on in in lesser spotlights? Right talk to parents Steve who talked to any player first of all any player. Who played for Brian and they've got nothing nothing but rave rave complimentary stuff about Brian Darren Pang Wright played for bronchial right and you talk to that guys like to do? This guy was the bomb. He was the nuts as a coach as a mentor as a supporter as a cheerleader. He was just you know the best and I look at this example. Steve Say John Tortorella was a junior coach. Okay the way we know his personality. And you're we're a parent and your your you know your kid has choices here okay. He's good enough that he's going to be able to play major junior a and you got a choice and are you going to go to. Ah Send them to the team. Were John Tortorella the head coach. Or would you rather go to where Brian Kilrea and and I'm going Kilroy all day long all day long. You know I'd Imagine being subjected to this coaching style of John Tyrrell. It's hard to know what's going on behind closed doors though I mean I I don't I don't ever know unless you play unless you're in that room going every practice with this coach every boss with this coach hotel rooms meetings like you really can't give a full judgment of what these players are about like. I have heard from people who say you know. I played for Brian. Kill Ray and I hated him then at the same time Todd White for example name names. He loved playing for John Tortorella. He played for him with the Rangers for a little bit and he said he was very respectful. And an I liked the guy But lots of people would say in both cases in the other direction players that say oh roll their eyes and that that was that was not a good experience. Kill Ray since you hear tons and tons of stories about what a great coach. He was all that I always. You always find out. You'll always find. Every coach has got some nut skeletons in the closet but players who didn't particularly like playing for them. Yeah I heard that kill Ray. Hey in a uniquely SORTA interviewed billets or builders. You know because these kids get billeted. Did they live with families right when they come to town of course junior hockey players. If they're not from audubon right the end at the end up you know. Some of them are lucky enough to live with the same family. Weather other teammate. Lives in town but I heard killer was very. You know very didn't just say okay. Here's a family. Put them there you know that he spoke to these parents to make sure of the home setting and all this kind of stuff so would you. which would be a godsend? If you're a parent whipping your kid off to go play junior hockey. Yeah Yeah what it'll get. It is On that on that note when you send your kid away that there's you know the certain situations where parents are trying to and teams even and are trying to get fifteen year olds in like the there's an age limitation and every once in a while someone is so good that they apply for exemption and they get get into the league and I'm like what are you doing like from a social standpoint and even on ice standpoint. You're out there against twenty year. Olds as a couple overages out there that are you know north of of two hundred pounds and he gonNa send you Fisher and you're all out for that like it's just to me that's absolutely crazy. I saw one guy in the western hockey league. I don't think he was officially an exemption. But an emergency emergency call up and he got so smoked go coming down the left wing cuts to the middle of his skate and everything but some guy came across and just about out ended him. Put Him outright light. I just don't get Why anybody's in such a hurry to get you know such young kids into the top ranks? There's you there's plenty of time to get to where you want to be and not to mention. Hey Mixing childhood at the same time right. Well that's right. You know I you know I guess people should ask themselves. If you've been listening to this segment you know there's so much there's so much pressure Steve on winning now all right at at at starts at a pretty. What's it probably start at twelve thirteen years old hockey? Oh God where its way earlier than that Oh even earlier okay. Hey where they start to say. Yeah pressure went so now so now. The the sandbox days are over the participation days are over So the coaches have to begin to have this talk with the players going. Some guys aren't GonNa like it but but you're going to get to play as much and the reason for that is well. The Kid knows the reason. You're not good enough or are not as good as the other guy right so that whatever that state starts obviously too young according to me eight or nine years old and you know you wonder as a apparent if you had a choice again where your kids have got some promise. He's going to play junior B or junior a hockey and You you have one coach. Who says you know what I'm going back to the? I'm going back to the young days for the kids and I'm kind of more about participation and the experience for these kids and to be honest. I'm not really I don't really give a shit if we make the Memorial Cup. I want these kids have a great to three years here. And I'M GONNA I'M GONNA I'M GONNA probably have more more imbalanced in the lines than you normally would expect from a coach because I want kids to be able to play as opposed to the other guy who goes. We're winning at all costs and I know how to do it. And I've got a bunch of success at doing Bubba I would. I'd be curious to see how I would react to that myself as a parent you know that I might be going. You know I guess you only know your kid you know he might be better suited here to go with the soft touch you know. He's better better equipped And not as well equipped over its winning at all costs you know so. Yeah I think that's one of the struggles. Parents have in that they don't they don't understand they think that If you're winning that means there's good coaching happening this good development happening. That's not necessarily the case. Sometimes you just got a good group and they the and these these guys are just fantastic out of the gate and you can't mistake winning for development that's that's that's one thing and I would say at the same time when you're looking at a place you know a coach you want your kid to play for. Ideally want happiness to be part of that whole thing and coach can quickly take that away to Emme development doesn't happen unless the kid loves going to the rink and coach can take that away in such a hurry. That's that's a great thing said great thing. You can't mistaken winning for for development you know. Interestingly Enough Steve when you watch social media when you look at your social media and and there's a bunch of parents out there proud who who post their kids hockey game on online who put up a you know a shot of their kid or something whether it's a shot of in playing or after the game and it's like make way to go Perry Galardo here two goals tonight. ABC Plumbing won the Game Bubba. So you will see see that right. Some people don't agree with it. Some do the parent will say well. I'm just giving my kid a push and stuff like that. What's really interesting? Steve is used seldom. Seldom see the kid himself posting a bunch of Shit but what he did in the game not yet. But you don't see other kids come I angle. We kicked ass tonight against the other team. You know it's it's interesting to me that the parents would the parents love doing it. Love doing it. I know I know a friend of mine. All he does all. He does put a picture of his kid up to tell how he performed in the game. And you never. I never see him up there when he loses. I I only see it up there when they win a game and you know it's all I can do to go tell the dad you're killing the kid man you know so that now this kid gets rewarded only for winning the only for winning really well. I'll get your dairy queen. If you score a goal tonight right by. I always loved the thing that I learnt from from someone I forget who taught it to me but but praised the child not the deed. Praise your kiss for when when he has a bad game to see. Your effort was so good. My my my children's colleges grandfather I think is a great. He gives them Dole right for school like rewards them. Now that's worth the reward. Yes but what he does is he makes them send their report card and yet they have to cover the marks okay. They've got an email that and not have the marks included but have the effort art all included and and. I don't know if they still do that in high school now but but he did that years ago when they were in elementary school You know that so if you got a for effort or e for effort whatever. It was excellent. That's how you got fifty bucks a subject. There's not a lot of dialogue. I don't there's not a lot of dialogue anymore with The report cards. I don't think remember. They were handwritten. Steve Y- There were handwritten exactly. So you Kinda knew that there was at least some level of customization. I feel like it's a cutting copying and pasting thing so go. Yeah Jim Jerome. Okay I'M GONNA put in paragraph four on that one which talks about Difficulty getting along with others and right frequently absent and I'll just copy and paste that in there right right right so so anyway. Good topic for sure. It's interesting stuff. We get Kinda grinded back to the beginning of the conversation which is well in a different time zone from where we are right now now it was rb computing web will. What you'd care Corey? Perry get for his head shot. Perry does call it unintentional. And we'll get big rick The feature feature on this in the says these blindside or side swipe type hits or what the NHL says Moscow. Then take Perry's history and hammer him hard. Let's face it. His career is definitely ending soon. So make a point and give him fifteen games or something around that and a huge cache. Fine that makes people talk. So that is feedback from big Rick. Thank you kindly and RB competing web poll for today. James there'd be pull Steve. I called the poll. 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Their final show before we hit the weekend. And of course we've got four lively games for the wild card weekend all lined up and the odds are out and it is. Let's see here. Let's go with the top five in terms of best odds to win the Super Bowl Super Bowl here in the community. You're muted there. By the way I think Jimmy the Green Bay packers in at number five seven to one odds. That's that's a long shot a little. I'd say for a club. That is getting a bye to the first round. Saints ran at five to one thousand nine hundred four to one chiefs at three two one and your best odds to win the Super Bowl my pick the Baltimore Ravens gambling. The New England patriots aren't in the top five. They're twelve to one favorite. That is money. I might be willing to put down. I certainly agree that those top those top four Baltimore case. See The Orleans leans in San Fran correct the top for you tough pick. I'm not touching Green Bay with a ten foot pole and that's my team. I love the Green Bay packers but they have not not been impressive. They are one of the most unimpressive. Can it hurts me to say this. One of the most unimpressive teams to get a first round. Bye that I've I've ever seen I'm the I'm the same. Would you put any money down on the Patriots. A twelve to one given. They're a bit of a long shot. Like what are we basing that on. That's instill a team in double digits in victories They my favorite no however. Would I be surprised if they wanted all absolutely not. Yeah the only thing is I don't know how healthy you know Tom. Brady of course is is the nuts. And that's what always makes people wonder they don't just whip over that. We'll wait a minute. Here's Tom Brady. No but does Tom have any experience in the big. Yeah Yeah does that does do it in in Baltimore You know the quarterback no no Jackson. Yeah Yeah The coaching villa check. You know does anybody game. Yeah and for a team better than bill. Belichick like a guy's a tireless worker. He and his staff are always ready. They've they come up with a Kryptonite for every single opposing quarterback. Okay this is what will throw at them because he sucks at this. So we'll do that and and he's done it it again and again and again Yup. The only the only snag there is Eshelman right for speaking communities. ooh The guys. The Guy Kinda got injured there right few games ago so I don't know how healthy he is. I don't know what their report is on that guy and he's their go to guy now since Gronk is not around right. So that's that's the only the only deal there I mean you know. That's how good those guys were right. That was crazy thing about watching New England right okay is the come to the line. Break the huddle. Tom Brady gets in behind the quarterback for the little shock. Then you're going okay. Here's one hundred percent. Sure bet he's throwing it to Gronkowski. It's it's done and it's like watching those games. This this is going to Handelman okay. They're gonNA throw it to. You can put nine guys on Handelman. Okay he's still going to throw out there right and yet and yet the fuck these guys can excuse. He's my language so good you know but yeah I you know about him is he hurt He. He's questionable but he did say he announced to the world that I feel better than I have in weeks six. So that's a very encouraging health. Update right there heading into the weekend and I agree with you. There just isn't a lot of offensive weapons after Julian element at least not not not where he is with Gronk gone right. And they had Antonio Brown briefly would he ever look good if he wasn't sure with But yeah elements the guy and and I don't love the Patriots offense this year. There's no question however still the champs until further. Notice yeah I guess if you're going to pick a long shot so you have to go outside of Baltimore Casey. I'm picking New England outside of those top four The long out of you know if you if you can't pick them first place guy. I might go San Fran over Casey and I always liked Casey because I love But I've been missing those guys men betting this year and they just keep pouring it on. So yeah we'll have to do you want to do a little Little wagering on the weekend do I save. You'd have to go to your guy and having to pay the juice juice I came roaring back Steve. I wasn't the only one game in nine. And then you know what happened Steve. Okay as I change my bet okay. I'm a fifty fifty dollar better on the Games. Okay lying slightly there. Sometimes one hundred bucks and came roaring back the guy the guy had me I was was down like eight eight nine hundred Bucks Steve. Okay don't tell anyone okay all right and And then I wanNA bunch games got back to even in in one weekend I meant I told you about that and I said okay. Well now. I'm good now. I'm going to bet two hundred and three hundred so I lost my mind. We lost both those games. Just keep to the bet. Keep to the more modest better like I can. I could do that but I'm more like of a twenty bucks a game so maybe abm out of your league. It's Mike Listen Steve. Here's my deal. The got you guys have cottages. They got their Harley. They got there I I gave up my golf course membership because they don't play much golf anymore. So that stuff I get all these guys have extra shit you know. You got your men's Hockey League Steve. You've probably got to pay. You know what you pay a year probably thousand bucks or something to play minutes. Maybe more I don't know it's pixelbook fought. Pick us about five hundred. Yeah so some guys playing a couple of so. This is my hobby hobby. All right. That's fair as long as it doesn't do not yell it's fine. It's fine okay. Smoking was your hobby. You know that one I picked. I picked up the quitting smoking book. January second on ice and your mic. Microphone thanks you for you. Were telling me again. I can't even read the the type of Mike. There's a big big logo on their road. Ouro de and I looked looked over at it after a couple hundred shows with you and I said but I can make up the word and I have the same butter white. The words are white. Letters are white on road and my microphone and years. They're like this awesome Brown Brown golden color. I gotta I tell you a great story. I heard yesterday betting or not. Yeah I'll bet we'll figure it out. Oh you WANNA bet now super bowl bet no no. I'm saying this weekend this our last show before the wild card weekend. So I say some betty. You don't WanNa bet you WANNA bet. No what's the game. He's playing professional. National Football in America is a special game. A unique game lead nowhere else on. It is a rare games it will make it so gay. So I'm GonNa give you the odds Do you want to write them down as we go here. Here's is what we do you gotTA cover. We've got a draft basically pick what you want. I'll let you go first because I'm the one that's pushing cover you gotta you gotta you gotTa cover it right. You gotta Bet with the line right right. Yes absolutely. And they're all they're all half points in there as well so if we have a push we have a we'll be one so okay so let's first gang. Give me the game and I picked I yet. You can You can pick. I can do it that way. Or we can just draft the game you want. Just Steve Can we just do it my way please. Okay all right fine fine fine you get depict. For how many games are there. Therefore there's four okay so we'll get to I like chancellor don't know any How many yeah there are that that helps me out anyway? Buffalo off law at Houston Houston is a two and a half point favorite. Who Do you got there? I'll take a I'll take buffalo. You Got Buffalo and for the record I would've taken Houston so that works out nicely So I'll get to pick this. One is in. Tennessee is at New England. New England is a five point favorite. And I've got New England game three. The Vikings are at the saints and the Saints are seven and a half point favorites. They're at home. Yeah I got. I got my buddy rusty as his daughters. I got to pick. The bikes is a my pick. Likings ends one seven and a half. That's right I don't think your buddies plan though he might be for the year with that. Injury suffered a couple of weeks ago while Russ was on hand by the way yeah exactly and then Seattle is at Philadelphia. Eagles are one and a half point. Dogs Seattle is the favourite here. And I'm GonNa Take Seon. Did you see my pick Stephen. I look at their all of the. I've got all the underdogs one. I know. It doesn't bode well. That's not good. So what do you want to do. Twenty each absolutely stevie boom shackle upset lutely twenty matchsticks sticks. That is in case. There's some sort of podcast rule. It doesn't seem like there's any podcast rules but it would be just my luck that there's a gambling. Here's we're here. Here's what it is. It's twenty dollars. That buster rule then fine exactly. We'll pay the fine. It's it's twenty cash per game shacklock. Aaron Don locked and loaded and we should you add something else you wanted to say before we take our Li. Oh I you know I. I love musicians since I love. I love music. And I've got lots of friends who are musicians including my sister of course and and I still dab on taking piano lessons again and stuff and I love it. I listen to a lot of different types of music but one of my favorite guys lives here in town you you. You might not know but you won't know him. PJ Peres his name and he is an internationally renown saxophone player. And he's a buddy of mine and musician Steve. You Oh you and I've bantered around stories about you know what our lives have. been like an and hilarious ship. That's happened to me. Drunk or a musicians have just kalari frequent stories that they've done and practical jokes and and one of the most famous was a guy in La They called it the the gathering of bass players or something and this guy needed a bass player for a Gig and he so what he did is big upright base. You know those big giant upright basis thing Steve Right. They're they're very cool so yeah so In a big city like L. A.. Lotta guys don't drive right and they meet in Toronto. For example you can take the subway all your base so as a joke with this guy did was he called something like fifteen different bass players and said Meet on the corner of Main Street and Maple and all combined buying pick you up right and so what happened. Was this whole scene of of guys converging with these huge basis. Okay getting out of cabs and and we're getting off buses and getting pulling it out of their cars and ending up on the same street corner and it was hilarious. Gay But one of the other funny wants this guy told told me Steven I laughed. My head off is these guys are playing somewhere in New Orleans or something and the the drummer in this band was hilarious guy and they were playing down in the French quarter in New Orleans. Tough part of town Steve. Okay Big Red Light district and he went out on the street on one of the break Stephen and Well he negotiated Steve With with a hooker. Okay okay to to bring them up to come up to his room. And maybe Steve a little long in the tooth for for being a lady of the night. Steve Oh pretty old. Not Not not your typical looking. I understand completely. I mean it's you know we don't want to call her out you know it's like she has a right to make a dishonest living like anyone else. That's that's right and undergoing Jesus this is what you're doing okay anyway so this is the girl that he chooses to bring up his. who gets to the room and says listen you just just hang here? I gotta go play another set and then I'll be back up to the roof okay and This woman was frightening looking Steve. Okay frightening lucky that EH transaction consummated itself by the time he went back to the bar. No no no pre game show some you lie here on the bad and I'll be up in a minute. You know if you need some Jerry Taller whatever you can grab something fold Steve. Yes so the guy plays a set with all his buddies and and invites are on a break. You only got a half hour break and he invites them all up to his room. Says I I got something I'd like to show you guys of surprise right for all of you and they. They don't know what it is Steve. So the six or seven Kevin bandmates pile into this guy's room to see this older woman. Steve Sure Yep lying half clad on his bed and he says I'd like all you guys to meet my mother what I would have given to have seen their faces when he made that. Pronouncement isn't isn't that really. Isn't that like just so so funny. That is so funny. 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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 295: Featuring Todd Fedoruk

Spittin' Chiclets

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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 295: Featuring Todd Fedoruk

"Think. Lieu everybody. Welcome to episode two hundred and ninety five of spitting check presented by Pink Whitney from our friends at New Amsterdam Vodka here in the Boston Sports podcast family. This is also the last episode redoing on this Junket to Boston Biz you've been here for three plus weeks now xeres. Yeah. I Like I call the last episode MCI Charlestown. How's your time here with this last night here it was good man it was a little funky being my routine and Phoenix given we've been quarantines for so long but you know it was great getting together with you guys Shared a lot of laughs especially on the golf course on the boat trip while not so many laughs on the boat trip. But we got a lot of things accomplished. We had some funny clips. The Ward. Hawk. From Bass. The electric chairs which went viral. So yeah, it's been a good time. Man was good seeing you guys. You know I love you and it's great when we're together. For. People who are wondering when when he talks about his routine. He's been to the same place every single morning to get the same exact specialist sandwich. He then goes and does the exact same thing in his room throws himself around it. And then orders the exact same thing from dinner every single I go dude, are you not sick of that place Nov creature of habit I'm like I am too but not the same meal every single day. So I understand you're going crazy but you've kind of put yourself in a big time like many bubble right around this house. Yes. Correct. Biz doesn't understand that it's it's in in Scottsdale. He doesn't really get recognized everywhere all the time number. He gets a little bit everyone sees who he is and then like due to. Over The social anxiety gets pop and a little bit where I'm like. I just smoked a fat one. Now you're coming up saying hi to me people coming up and they don't know if you smoke fat one and possibly possibly microdosing. GonNa get, and the funny thing is I think I'm the one guy may be in our as well. That could be like. Up He's on that right now. Kinda just ride the wave and you know another thing too is it was great getting to know video offer our new one chase came over from Seattle. And then eight days after an NYC this all happen. So this is the first time we've been able to get together He helped us film three sand baggers. He did the boat video he's going to be editing all that. So we're adding to our team as well. Talk laps and HE I. Don't know if you guys saw the chirped them first appearance on the show but then all of a sudden video comes out of what he would do to me on the ice. Now, I can't trip the guy anymore. So respect chase nice getting annoying correct. He's he's a videographer and team security as well. From now on so we've added another member and fucking rights chaser stick taps, stick tops, boys. Too, many not too many minutes. Three weeks in this house is definitely baptism by like a five alarm fire baptism by fire because it's a lot of like live with three fucking strangers. Essentially, I didn't know our ray was moved Ra guys. Let's let's get Ra. Lives Point nine miles from here and slept here for twenty days. The fact that you're like I didn't realize how crazy it'd be like you could go home already. You could just tell me you love me back. Making it that obvious yeah. Hey. Hey. Hey. Don't forget. We've all been underpin pandemic. What his hair mask to I was I've been basically cooped up as well. So is a little bit of a respite for myself as all due respect to my Old Lady I love her, you know I'm sure. I'm sure she didn't. She didn't miss me all that much even is legit getting tax like every other day I saw down CVs. Saw Busy I'm like brought just at the breakfast battle play. But did we say how you how you mentioned how you mentioned like people in Boston are just miserable that I said I don't another show those. Visits like I say or maybe second or third day I came to people are miserable here I'm like, yeah. What what do you have you seen how I live my how activists I'm like, what do you mean though he said, well, I go into starbucks and I'm usually. People are just giving the death around here. It's like don't say a word in my nitro brew because I fucking. Ask Send Low because I said Hi for crying out loud to give you the the deaths there and and I'll tell you why after they are route I, give them a bit of a staredown but I was so focused on the staredown it actually forgotten my phone there saw shame so. I'm talking like the look back where I'm I'm staring this lady down for being a complete be I. To me and I'm Kinda like Jesus? Like I'm being friendly like, why are you so miserable? So I made it so I can only. So. I was too embarrassed to go back in when I forgot my phone I made Grenell going. Well you should have been I. know you have to eat that he knew right away to right when I walked in check got your phone go douchebag. Why I was my curb that a doozy is a moment where I was standing down. Better. Than give them credit for though. But people are happy around. It's not like Scottsdale. A video on twitter hop on the counter and starbucks going toe to toe with somebody because he didn't say hi. Loudly enough back. You whispered hello. oncle CJ motherfucker. He. Lost you kid my uncle Jesus? Would he loses kid or something like nine just got his phone at starbucks he he legit like. I. Fly Now oh, absolutely I did mention the fishing trips old probably a good time dimension I guess we'll be bringing on a little later tied for Dork, I played over five hundred games in the NHL mostly with the Philadelphia Flyers. Great interview that was was raw. Yeah. It was very raw. He's a I had never met taught and we had a boss the painting was a gift Todd and I just actually loved being around him when he came in when I met him, this guy is comes at heart he came in haunt he came down the stairs of this guy. So I show up and I'm just sitting there and I'm like we're Donnie does was here. You know shooting the Shit and all of a sudden I hear thawed and he's More for door hit my head again faulk. Wall world to interview this guy. But we got down to his career life and a lot of things I think people really enjoy you. He was a tough sob guys sky could chuck him and he had a nasty injury that he talks about and. Just. Another guy with a great message in. Waking up some six. It was like quarter seven I was sleeping right there. That does two feet away. Did you bang on the door now? I didn't know he was coming heroes I opened them like. What's up man I'm taught I was expecting dining legit thought like was getting home invaded for about thirty seconds. Go Fridge. I. Come on and to make yourself at home scared the shit out of me. You Chuck you. Before you answer the door, I might have put a blanket on top. Pearl by one of these guys again. What's Pearl Harbor and? Beaten, surprised out of the Blue Oh. You didn't know what was going on anyway. Over my head. Not, the first time won't be the last why? No, but it was more of a play on the. Joke I guess. You're not so smart. I flip the script on you. Now and one of my head. All right. Well, now we're all on the same page again. We're. Not Making. Situation, never. Got Shit over my head on the spot. Honestly I know it's a phrase. People are no wrestling phrase these news on the old WWF. fucking Pearl Harbor. Verb Yeah. Remind me tell you the funny wing foot store is open as this week. I kind of want to hear it now. We gotta get we gotta take all talk and like I said, what got his wish he's got at least one New York islanders kin pole Tuesday night is to one and a double overtime game to force game six. Again I know it's funny. Double overtime game not the most thrilling but the island is I think like twenty shots go after regulation just a grind just grind of a battle but then fucking you boy Jordan heavily I don't know how he gets that open in order eight. How does he get that? fucking. Our boy shoddy whiffed one the point. Yup tough bounce. chatty splayed grades played off. That's something that that. Just Shit lock man we talked about I think we're doing the behind the scenes or something we were just talking to chase her about the cup just being it's like all luck it's it's really crazy to see and we'll go into the other series but last night that's just a bad break. There is there is not one thing a coach could be mad at Shattenkirk that play and now you got to give credit because. We made a sick play, just kick it off the wall, the himself step around them. Then the great past an elderly man. He's he's really as as they come as a player you go back to the world junior her aerobics continually pulled two years in a row with Canada. He scores this fucking highlight reel and single is first game as an oiler I was on the I was on the bench for that one but I picked up. Probably to apple I mean your thank you and he's just been a really good player. It's funny I called that he wasn't going to resign there. and. Then he ended up in there and he loves it, and so I'm happy for him. Now I'm GonNa let you go into the game because I get some stats after to make sure that the Tampa Bay lightning fans aren't gonNA have to worry. So before the Game Johnny Boy Chuck announced that he would be playing so. All My fucking rights like guys back here, and that's a big bounce for that lineup and like. You know when you just lost the last game you down three one getting an injection like that type of Guy I think it helps the room out helps them row little bit. Clicks. Boys. We just did. In early on blocks, shock gets it right in the got and I'm thinking I know that feeling when you know you're coming off an injury or your maybe even still injured and you're you decide the play and you're like am just hoping this kind of goes along those games where you don't get dinged up at all Nice free-flowing game no eats one right in the fucking bellybutton. So I its place you almost want that that's how you're GONNA get into it I. Don't think he hated that part he's like fuck but you're in it right so that I think like. Three shifts. Later, he ends up fucking taking a clapper right office, his his boot and breaks escape late. So he's fucking sitting around the middle. Yeah. He's trying to scoot himself off. So I'm trying to say cut this guy just got back. That type of grinder type and he's got to put up with that in the first period. But he looked he looked like he fit right in after that tough tough bounce off the star. But Varlamov, he was he had a funny clip after the game diving into the pile He had a great bounceback game I mean he's he's been fairly all this series given what he would dealt with thirty seven shots. From Tampa last game I thought that they control the play and I thought tap deserve to win. But that's fucking how'd the islanders role another thing? They end up tying up the game one one, and then they should have gone ahead Tampa but this is why I'm okay with the rule existing and I don't know how the fuck and refs miss this one. Cat was off side by twenty feet like it was a Kreider. Offside. Twenty feet being generous could thirty. Yeah. It might have been. It was the most obvious offside rider's offside. And he can't talk yet. No just knows I work. That's how he learned it by seeing how offsite cat was. Yes. That's I. Mean that tells you how much. So interesting to see how they'd miss that wall they did and that's one of those situations where it's like to obvious I don't I don't. Necessarily, like the rule because I do feel like it slows down play and in most cases, the guys skates hovering over it or it's like a millimeter an inch. Hobble am idea then for something like that. League buzzes down. The guy gets on the horn the RAFI goes they just go no goal and you don't even send spend one second or they can even announce in the arena. No. You'RE GONNA. Hit that quick. You're going to have to have constantly guys looking over video already do. Like last last night like I'm saying once they review it. Just don't make them go to the video or anything like that. Obviously just caused down it's not a goal I thought. Some cases, what if there's like a minute and a half a sustained pressure like you're GonNa have to wait to rewind the tape and you gotta get all that done I. think they have people that are like, I. Think people are watching it live and they got other guys stop and watch me here's why I'm on board with that. They don't have enough people to do it now they shouldn't. They can hire people and create more jobs. So genius idea what genius fucking idea so that that negates the goal one one and then it ends up going to Ot's so. Credit the islanders and. So, you're feeling Here's another thing point doesn't play in game that that's that's far dude what's going on with point they got no Stamkos, they got no point. That's two of their best reports out of the fucking lineup, and then we're not going to get an A. Dallas yet but Jesus Christ, they just keep getting some decent bounces I send listen. I personally this is just meet throwing it out there. I think that point banged up. He was questionable game for play a huge goal. Yeah. Right. I think it's like we're up three one. Let's not play tonight get a little extra rest. We're going to try to close them out tonight without you and then you get a couple extra days and then they're also thinking we got two more games to do it. So I'm very surprised if he's not in next game, then you start thinking over longtime. Play game six you are. You are in one correct in an unusual case and giving it's in the bumble and use. The players everybody inside their wants to go home is if they were to close out in game five, they would have been starting up on Thursday when this. We're in Thursday now because that's when you guys are listening to it. So blow, they're thinking well mine. Sure. World Ucla Man. Past the J. Bra Fuck lost my train of thought, I Would do you would jackie why did it? You were talking about how tonight was going to be the start of the line they're probably thinking, Hey, if we're able to close out and five at least get him the couple of extra days depending on what it is. So but like you said now that it's going to six if we don't see point again, you're thinking que did he aggravates something then try to come back too soon and then re aggravated. This. Guy. Given with what Dallas is thrown at teams and how they're able to keep finding ways to win. If you'RE DALLAS, you're probably a lot less confident, not having point and not having Stamkos in lineup although stamkos started practicing with the team I. Believe. So there's a little bit of light at the end of the tunnel. Okay. Okay. But. The since two thousand, right When the flyers did it Every single team that's been up three one, the conference finals has closed the series out. They've they've they've ended it it sixteen times in a row. So ended it in five no charges on this year I'm saying you got two more games if points out. Yeah. you start thinking like it could happen. They got Vasilevskiy Kucherov is playing so well. His game is so suck I thought he got hurt the other night a bit of A. He's just a snap show to out there which we've mentioned a bunch of time. So I- Tampa Bay's never they've never lost series when they held a three one lead and granted you could say were some point it's going to happen. It's not gonNA happen this year. At part of the reason is Vassilis, giving they've lost last night. How good was he? Still? It's it's it's Tampa Dallas. It's going to be glorious when when the islanders lose but at least yeah, we get a little more excitement in a game six. What one other thing all right. What do you got on the series? Based I was going to add stamp Stamkos was spotted practicing shooting around I don't know how close she is to return and once again via. Avalon. Moth what he would you say bitch dirty down. Thirty six. He had a great night again, boys you guys pretty much covered. All I. Mean I'm looking for game six more Mary probably don't want but I love a game seven men I mean I i. I'll be very nervous for Tapa. This goes seven for the simple fact especially, if we mentioned points not back but just. I Dunno Aman that mental warfare of like they're like how we had the three one lead arena blow it. I don't know you. You think that they're battle-tested and they're ready to go. John Cooper said that you know we dealt with adversity in this plop before which I don't know not I don't think to this extent and going against islanders team but. Yeah we'll see actually I did have a question and this is ignorance not picking on anybody that played the goal that scored. Well. Should should should Sergeyev's F. have stayed with him? What did he do the right thing by going? So he was Kinda like caught flat-footed. So it wasn't like he was playing a usual to on one. He's kind of like skating the same direction they are. He was like forward skating and like he ends up going overly he certainly could have tried to Kinda give the goalie the shooter. That's what. You always WanNa do playing a normal to on one give the goal of the shooter and just guaranteed at the past won't get through you for a tappan. It saw it was so fast and so quick said that when Shattenkirk whiffs surrogate chefs in the middle of the blue, line lease off he's just standing there. So He's Kinda chasing that play it was it's amazing. How instinctive in some cases where? Like. A lot of guys. In that case, we'll fake to go to them and then go to the other guy 'cause most of the time they say, give the shooter the goalie. But if you feel you've caught them in the midst of candle where you're able to take a stab at that thing and like not fully commit, you try to do it and it was just a great pass. Not, taking credit away and it was right off, every sticks all. Interested. There was one other thing that I wanted to talk about non game. Oh Just had Jesus Christ eighth goal the playoffs. This fucking guys lots of nonsmoker the is and he's just picking coroner's to it's pleasure to watch this guy played. That was that was that was at the All Star game when the when the defensemen gets the skate into one like. Rolling to. Yeah. Well. Okay. So yeah at another cap in feather then. Good luck putting that cap in the fellow. or they say the feather in the CAP? I. Think you said Cap in the feather Tom Your boss now that's good. Well, it's the way. Wouldn't it game six Thursday. Night eight o'clock. Tonight, if you're listening to the show the dropped. Out West Stars wrapped up the Campbell conference in five games after Dennis. Berry on the ninth of the playoffs three, thirty, six into Ot gave Dallas a three, two victory very tough Las Vegas. They had a to nothing lead early in the third they blow it goes by Jamie ben in Yoel Killing the. Jamie Ben all in the guy was hosea. Well, Kim around the. Blackhawks this point you gotTa feel terrible Zach White Cloud I mean he's not really. Wasn't your typical. It's a desperation play just trying to bat it away and. Such a such bad like I felt awful for the kid man. I don't know I mean you're GonNa get fifty fifty on this rule I think it sucks that somebody season ended because there was no intent there for it to go over like that. But but I also get the other standpoint of you know they're trying to create more offense with if you can't make plays, you're going to get penalized for it. So you see revoke consoling them after and just with the expectations of that team and you saw that quote right after the Game Riley Smith said this is far and above the most high skilled team I've ever been on anything less cop is a major disappointment and I mean, I mean you saw it in in in in periods in in in some games like I mean I think one game they shot them by thirteen and one game i. think it was seventeen and you know they controlled a lot of the play. They were seemed to be getting a little bit more the powerplays at least early on but this Dallas T. man they're just. Especially to close it out and five to was even more odd but they just there's so galvanize right now and they're playing for each other and in a situation where they're in the bubble and I know it's hell for these guys. This is like going on two and a half months here and they're losing their minds but that like team camaraderie is just kind of taking it to a new level in the fact that they're just able to keep ponies games off like Wendy's Vegas. Blow to lead in the third and the minute they fucking smell blood they pounce and I. I was I keep getting bent over on the Jamie ben thing it's like he just he's a playoff performer man he's he's he's one of the only guys out there with no visor on standing up to everyone him and stone barking at each other just not backing down and it's like it's cool to see I thought when these guys were coming into playoffs. They were going to be like they the regular season wet. They were one in seven to start the regular. Struggling right out of the gate even in the round. Robin. In early in that series against fucking. Calgary, like people forget they were. Twelve seconds from going down three one no, they find a way. Radulovich boom gets the tire they win that game. Then all of a sudden you know with chuck being the and it's a testament to that group. These older guys I think realized this is probably their last kicking the can it's it's hard to get to even this point and they've been what they've been dealing with and like being in this bubble. Losing Losing The cup finals I know from experience is so heartbreaking to lose this year. Is fucking one hundred times they should give them a constellation ring. These guys have they are so imagine being away from your kids this long this is a fucking grind and I'll tell you their last year's blues I think I said this at some point on this show, they are similar to last year losing. You remember that they got robbed and not beating the blues when Jamie Ben had the Bennington made that amazing save on the wrap around. Yeah. So you've seen what they and listen. Through four games against Colorado, they'd given up fifteen goals. They gave up. What six goals in the first four games to vegas like it's just. I. I'm so impressed by what they're able to do and like you realize that when you have three defensemen who can log twenty five minutes has can be in the best overall Klingberg I can't pump this guy's tires enough. He's the as the best most perfect shot for tips and rebounds from the point, and then when he wants to shoot to score as a Canon but he just flicks these risks. Any two assists in the clincher. And then Esselin Dell's fucking legit that guy plays like a lot of hard minutes. Yeah he's a nice player. So solid nobody really knows much about them. Kinda similar like ECO home in Nashville right like they're like really good but quiet, and I just think that when Dallas has gone and you mentioned veterans. Like when they score the goal, there's a video I wish I remember because I couldn't find a show you I wish I remember the twitter feed I'm doing no one. Any good. I'll try to describe the video. It's a camera that's looking down dowse bench. So you can't see the ice it's solely looking down their bench and they're all standing up because you know that play there's a lot of pressure on the power play goal scored and they score on the bench. So nuts exactly like you think they would, and they all hop on the bench. One Guy Stays it's Leon who spent illegal longtime we've. talked a bunch good friend of mine played Nemetin and he's standing there. It's just like he's standing there sheer joy could tell screaming. So fired up him one of the coaches pounded out, and then he jumps over the boards. It's like the passion this team has granted who wouldn't have that passion after going Cup final, but they've been in this for the long haul. Jamie Ben has the little video where you see when he's checking in at the beginning of the bubble of the beginning of the playoffs. He's he's had so many bags some something like that, and he's like we plan on being here awhile. Cheesy line but I think they did I think these guys are like exactly what you said. They got Corey Perry PA- ski who bore coached in San Jose and ironically mentioned when they're talking about the series he said like we're playing good this was leading up to the game five. See we're playing good. We're getting so many chances and he mentioned their best player Joe Pavelski is is kind of like I. Guess Old just talking about how much he respects his game shoots a backhand hits a shaft of a stick and goes like a pitching wedge over into the net and we lose a game four I mean it's it's. Such a game of inches like I wonder if Vegas looks back, do you think they played poorly? I Dunno because they dominated at times they couldn't score and they ran into a goal who's just been on this amazing hot streak. That's the other similarity between Saint Louis in Dallas Yeah I mean Bennington rookie and kind of comes out of nowhere. But if you'd open was a backup, no-one ever would if dowse in the Cup final the beginning of this year, everyone's probably telling you bend bishops up for the veterans and he's like stone everyone. It's it's it's a team that I have a crazy feeling about I'm still on Tampa when they beat the scumbag islanders and move on. But Dallas what run it's Bannon Radulovich can't say enough. Aw. Just as. There's a couple other things that we we had to discuss here. we got. We talked about all. This is this is what I wanted address. I personally believe in the guys in the locker room might say something different I feel like the goaltending situation especially with the fact that the contract talks coming out it just like got to a level where it was. So weird we're like something as little as that in just can create a little bit of tension in the locker room like there's there's no reason that that team should. I don't think they should've lost to Dallas I definitely don't think they should lost in five games and for them to kind of go out like that in life flat on the offense. I don't know it was just it was just it was. It was a drastic halt to what what their trajectory was going into that series man a Smith Patchy Ready Marshall didn't score. Yeah I mean three your top players right there. So I think that they played well and they dominated stretches but yet certainly disappointing. I'm. Did, you have Dallas. I'm pretty sure I had vegas for the Piss off Dallas fans but I mean folk full marks Dhabi man they got. I mean Khudobin Zeman absolutely incredible and like so we hadn't Boston we loved them here. He got an ice contract with Carolina that didn't pan out as he hoped he kind of bounced around a little. But I love what he's doing man. I love a great goalie story particularly guy like data and putting a hell of a bad one. Also an interest in stat. Biz The stars of the first team to anti the Stanley Cup final with the negative goal differential in the postseason since the sixty eight blues and the Sixty Day. Blues by the way we're in the Cup final because they put all the expansion teams in one division ensuring that expansion team would be in the Cup final. So basically, it's been fucking. And Sagan said it says that analytics overrated and needless to say the lyrics community got a chuckle out of Sagan's quote all. If say anything negative, you're just like you're getting the Analytics Mafia come back yet but the army's common. He who was scary who? With that's not Nice Oh, you said you must be a scary bunch. Yeah something mean I was being sarcastic. But going back to that one series against Colorado in. I've been getting it with fucking stars Fan I've jumped on your little rivalry bandwagon Ra i. just I mean in that series I just thought that they'd gained They've gotten a little luck given all the injury. Yeah I mean if you look back with seven regulars out so I'm happy for Dallas first trip to the finals since two thousand. TRAFF AS A as A. Organ thousands, fifth trip to the finals I believe it's the third in Dallas and then to in many that Joel Media, they lost his shot Pittsburgh that year and then I believe they lost to the island is one year. So the Rick Bowness Story and a soda. Minnesota wasn't in the league when the islanders were. Sure they want. Should they were? Beat Devon. I. I'm guessing on that and the fifth one I'm I can look right now but no, the island is north south. I was thinking of the wild I apologize okay. Nothing goes over my head though Rick bowness everybody's sending out messages on social media about how happy they are for this guy's been around. I want to talk to him I want to have him on here. He's coached for about four hundred years. We're going to get him on I think. He might. He might have a Stanley Cup. When we end up interviewing on my reached out to his kid Ryan I actually scrapped junior when he played for the Brampton Battalion Lebron he's he's GonNa broker dealer and getting him on but I just such a likable guy and getting a Lotta love on social media thinking people thinking you know he deserves us for what he's put into the hockey world absolutely doing for quite a long time while also Corey Perry got a little richer he got one hundred thousand dollars bonus for reaching the final. Dallas Cap overages now over three million dollars. I'm sure the worry about that when they need you and if he wins the couple, another hundred fifty K. show. CONGRATS. Corey Perry on. And I saw a tweet and. At the drop in the bucket ice. Had to retake it I'm like one hundred hey, doesn't even fucking? No. Me like ninety, million as. Hundred K. I. Actually they even writing about one hundred K. for this guy. Looking it to a guy who valley's his car. 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To make sure they know that our show send you. All right boys I think spicer tied for door right about now. Fridge. Let's Kirby let's go without further ADO Appel Fridge. What's Next Guest Spit Chiklis he piled up over a thousand penalty minutes and five hundred forty five NHL Games for six different squads most famously for the Philadelphia flies. He's been known have a scrap to back in the days also a Nice Edmonton boy and a very unselfish Fishman as we found that Boston. Thanks for joining US taught Dork House. Thanks Fridge. Well, things are good man. It's great to be here. Guys, I. Like this show have been listening for awhile man you guys do it. Right. So appreciate me on a lot of your Alberta Boys talk about it. They got the ask me every week. When am I getting on Spitting Chiklis. You guys have a huge following out there. Big. Careers and oiler. Dave. God they continue to watch me. It's a flocked in followed, right? From Red Red Water Alberta. That's it. So just outside of Edmonton grownup minor hockey playing there. Yeah. Red Water renegades, red water truckers. Those were the minor league any other NHL from your home town. There was one Kent Mandeville came through wasn't born in there in red water but lived there for a bit we actually played in. The flyers together but non the only one born and raised at a what do you in seventy? Nine, seventy, nine, seventy, nine. So you're. Thinking seventy years old when the oil there's I guess you might be gone by then but your team or Calgary was right right there I remember the eighty seven flyers and. I was lucky to grow up Edmonton and those days it was messy T-e-k-n-i Gretzky fuhr Andy Morgue. Coffee One when Gretzky left to and even a little bit older than which. I remember that time when Gretz Scott traded man and it was just national news every day like the world is ending we're losing our savior and. The world was over for like a year and when they want again, that kind of really made it feel good brandon I mean Gretzky Gretzky, you know he was the guy they're so. Big Trade man you think. First off thanks for coming up, we should mention you all the way up from new. Jersey. To do this interview so we appreciate the whole weekend with us. We said, we went fishing all day and the Boston Ambi- first time out on the harbour. I was it was you know what I've been through Boston playing and stuff. We had a couple of snow. INS. This is a beautiful city I gotta hand it to your man. I didn't get a chance to walk around when you're playing and stuff. Yeah. It's nice right now and it's it's a nice city. It's funny how people because you've traveled and played in all these cities not just you everyone was played in the NHL but rarely do you get out and vote and see things maybe you'll see a restaurant and a bar, but you're not going to be like dealings with dealing with what makes cities so special. So it's cool. You get to finally spend time here we appreciate you coming. I, appreciate it man. Going, back to your minor hockey days I mean given the NHL career you had and like how physical and how fucking crazy or all that start playing minor hockey. I mean we know Mike that back dinner more of a more of score then no I was minor hockey who has just hitting liked I like the physical aspect of the game and I wasn't a guy that stood out wasn't a guy that got a lot of points. I was a kid early on and I like playing physical I played hockey 'cause they're like hitting. That's why played like I, remember the small rinks in in red water. My buddies would come that weren't playing. They'd come to watch the hits. Like farming physicality western Canada, that's the way you play towns that are surrounded by you and your team is made up of the thirteen kids in town. So if you don't have enough kids, you don't play or you combined with another town as we got older, we actually combined with another town thorold to actually make a team. So as count kids not town on ours. So coming up to like the whol draft and everything are you just on the radars a really good prospect or you kind of coming out of nowhere what's your whole when you turn Fourteen fifteen sixteen road? Well, here's what's funny is like I was so out of the loop with the hockey. I don't know if it's culture back then but we didn't know we didn't know I got drafted in C. H. L. wwl year after it happened. So it was not a year but it was later on I. Don't know I don't know my dad got a call or something, but it was one of the scouts had actually told us at an all star tryout that your your rights are with the Tacoma. Rockets at the time which had moved colonial era. So it was like a pigeon carrier they sent a pitch to tell you but it got shot down I think larmer. Exists in the whol may not anymore but you always drafted as a fifteen year old basically two years before you could play technically. Yeah I mean I'm sure there was an exemption in certain cases, but you're also living in an era where like I know when I was drafted that was years later with Internet? There was no Internet right so you eventually Found out you were drafted by this team and they were considering bringing you in for your first year of eligibility. Yes. Yeah. So the way it happened is the first the first camp that I got to go to I didn't get to go to a a had an injury, cut my tricep and half in the summertime, the uncles on the lake and. I wasn't able to go to camp and then the next year I went to camp. I don't know if this is a good story, but I didn't WanNa play like I. I had a really tough year the year before I got kicked off the triple eighteen and was the triple eighteen minutes Gotcha. Where'd you get the BOOT for wall? Apparently, I missed curfew coordinator coach so Curfew was video. Shall we video to prove it? and. Then I was just you know I would I would challenge coaches when they do things and stuff like that and I just didn't fall in the line so I was a problem child but what happened is that coach kept my card and they need to release your so you can join another triple A. team they re they held my card so couldn't join another triple eighteen and I ended up plan Beer league with my uncles. Swear to God I played purely with my uncles and a couple of buddies that were older than me so I could get rides to the Games but I tell you what it was probably the best thing for me because I handled the puck more than it ever handled the puck. These guys are a little slower. So I was wheeling out there they shit faced they were absolutely because he I had to bring the beer so. That type of off ice behavior continue when you got the Colona or did that set more of a structure? Golden agree town no Cologne is a great town and it's a party town. Party there for sure. You know and and I went away to Cologne I was. I was sixteen and. I mean, it's a nice town. Cool man it was cooled playing in the whol and be young and stuff like that and I early on I I was I was doing some stuff extracurricular activities I probably normal most kids at sixteen years old right I just. Took it a little too far. You know was the team. Any good there were you guys good years when we we played good. Yeah. We had Kim Dylan Kabila's had the goalie coach for the flyers. Now he's our goaltenders US good. I mean we had a tough team. We were Tuft as well like you Dale Harrington was on a team, all me and Scotty Parker. We're rookies together how `bout this. So you got Scott Park, who seventeen right I'm I'm sixteen. It's his first year my first year we're rookies. Why they made us sit together on the bus I was two hundred and ten pounds at the time. Probably, parks is to twenty-five. We we were close. We're fighting I mean we're maybe these are the two rookies. You can just give them seats. Yeah exactly. Yeah. Yeah. The old sweat box in the back went pretty smooth for us 'cause park she just started elbow in the door and it opened and we just walked nobody said anything to us. That's The tough Guy Yup. Was it was it odd moving away from home at sixty, and then all of a sudden you're all of a sudden this men's league until guys at twenty years old and getting into that scrapper role right away. Yeah. That was that was like I shouldn't have done that the first time I did it because the first guy fought in junior, it was the first time had really fought. And I knew it was going to do it me and parks. We're going to do it scared at all more just say you're scared I wanna see if I can do it so that Kinda you know you didn't worry about the fear and it was a matt. Van Horlick. So he was a golden gloves boxer and a veteran tough guy I think he I think he might have been twenty or nineteen. And I got into it with them and he broke my nose and bloodied me up and just speed bag me. I had no clue what I was doing and. That was my first fight. It was a veteran good fighter I got spanked. You know, and then I just you know I wanted to get better after that. That's and it started from there and I had a lot of guys to support me to like barks. We wanted to be tough and there was a lot of guys in that league at that time be lack rocky Thompson the list goes on a lot of guys. Well, we also have the conversation I think it was yesterday and the fact that. You didn't necessarily get nervous before fights. It was more of something you just Kinda knew you had to do. Yeah, I wouldn't guys talk about that I. Mean You you think about the fight and some guys get anxious and stuff and I just approached it as that's that's what I was going to do. So I was partly because of the veterans on this early on it wasn't it wasn't really something that bothered me or give me anxiety but I like lucrative. Good older vet that kind of taught me? You're a hockey player I. But you know if you're going to play this nobody ever told me to do it. I was. Fully on board like this is my role, this is my opportunity I'm GonNa take it and I got the shot to do it. But when it started and I was kind of established as I was going to stay there these guys of they helped me out rick talk it Mark Raqi. Eric Asia developing your game. My game but he knows that I needed to fight to establish myself. That was my role. You know. So I think they'd help. With picking guys to fight because I would probably make the bad choice and fight the worst guy I you gotta get your feet wet man this is still the NHL and once you do that once it's like anything if you want you see you can play with them. You're like I can play in this league and it's the same thing with fighting. You go toe to toe with a guy that's been there and you hang in there. Okay. That's what it takes. He's been doing this ten years I can do I can do this just going off that and fast forwarding a little bit to your. NHL. Create your first ever regular season fight you could say against who it was but how was arranged Yeah. So it was ray. So it was robbery and it was the trainers. The trainers always set up fights I don't care if anybody says, this is this is probably behind the scenes but the trainers in those days and they would do it amongst themselves. Right. But the trainer is part of the team they're they're in the room. So when they get going, it's usually in the morning skate or something like that guys hang with the trainers there in the room. Feats I love being with those guys. I spent a lot of a lot of time with those guys and they they were talking amongst old razor fight. I'm sure that's how the conversation goes. What do you do this guys young kid he's coming in for something to prove to prove himself and and I. Remember saying he was show you. He would go you like you'll go. You'll go you and then talk are not talking was lucrative as actually talked to me. He's like a razor. He's He's a good fighter. He likes to come out of gave me all the little tips and stuff and I was just. Come Out of his Jersey that was one of his comments yeah yeah. Oh. Yeah. Because Razor came out that was his whole thing used to come slip right out and then bear army right but this was right when the tide downs came in. So that changed and the change to change your style when that happens but. The told me things to look for, but he was a smaller guy you know what he was. It's not that he wasn't top. He's one of the toughest the play this it was it was that he was older and I was younger and when you're younger and you're a rookie and you fight a veteran, you get the opportunity to fight a veteran U N no matter what for showing up and I think some of the guys understand that robbery was one of those guys are lined up to him and I said, I still have the number fifty two on. So they have either rookie training camp training camp number and a number and yeah pageant total pigeon number and he looks He looks like the we line up right in front of our bench and I'm like I'm like you want to join a goal and he's like the fucker you. That? I was like Oh honesty young guy trying to stay here on the me. Look back he's fifty two. Like this is exactly fifty two. You sure and I said Yes yes and then we went and it was a good tilt for him. He taught him with one and beat a nap too. But he gave me a shot and I think that's kind of opened the door for me to that positive reinforcement because I know I felt that too soon as I started getting into that role as soon as you. Get that feeling in the locker room like fucking rates like you got are bat like your guy it just like you feel like just as much of a part of a team like a second line or at that point, you know that's exactly what it is I felt more of that I felt closer with that team because you're so young and it's you're so new to it. The veterans bringing you in and making you feel like you're a big part of it is a lot of that man. It's it helps a lot with the development, the stress but you need your twenty years old. You need somebody to look to to teach you these things like how do I do you at this? How do I handle this and when I did good. It was all you know they they loved it. They rallied around me fighting and being a young guy and doing it the right way and I I loved it man that we've made me feel part of your first year in Philly was that the first year Lindros was gone. Yup Yup. No wasn't gone I. Think they sat him out all year. Okay. Okay. Yeah, and then he he was. Playoffs is that when he got hurt got that was two thousand got buried by Steven? Yeah that was year yeah. Those before me when I got there that year no no. I didn't play with them. Not Year I didn't play with him. He he sat out the year after. After that year and and Jones, he was actually the guy that got hurt and Keith Jones. He blew out his knee. He brought his Jones. He's one of the funniest guys ever play with. He was he blew out his knee and he's like, Yup, I'm done kid. You'RE GONNA get a shot for the rest of the year and I said, what do you mean? He goes I ain't coming back I'm GONNA, retire minds blown. and. I ended up staying up because Jones was out and the numbers at matched role and I took it on the empty spot. was there. They didn't I don't think they had a resident. scrapper that was young and ready, which is odd because you feel like that organization and given what they had in the minors like always had at least a couple guys cocked and loaded. Yeah. Like those teams in the minors in the fans and the early two thousands were. Garrett Burnett and Frankie by law like if you're in hockey circles, you know who? Frankly the animal by lowest. Alligator arms knocking is left right and center, and he's a tough cookie. He's crazy too but. Yeah a beautiful man top teams in on those on those early two thousand minor league squads but it's funny that none of the teams. Flyers had a tough guy in those early days. For some guys faces light up when they have a fight. I think Milan Lucci today's players like David off on it. Did you relish the role when you did it knows it more of like shit this my job no I. I liked when I want I like a good fight that you've always in a good toe toe fight with guy I mean there's a lot to respect in that and I really liked that part of it I didn't like the grandstanding and role playing in all the chirping I wasn't good at it at all like I tried Turpin again and It just never works out I wasn't a quick witted I was dom too dumb on the ice. You, Sir you. Can't really. I'm sweating it's. Exactly. So I would just throw my glove off and punch them that would work better don't talk. I would say this the guys who didn't say a word out there were far more intimidating the ones who did. Offered say all talk and they were tough. The quiet ones are tough. They know how tough they are, and they know what they can do to you. So they don't talk they just need to act and those are the ones you worry about man the quiet ones, Dave Brown sheltie, you know the old original man, the quiet guys, Grimsson. Some ankle yeah. Those are those are the. If you go back days with names from the. Because, everybody for the now, you would take him the seventh round, Ninety, seven drought by Philly. What did they tell you? What kind of prospect Iowa did even meet with a guy back in those days like even like Jack and women agent then I had an agent. Yeah. I had a nation I was I was ranked in the second round in the C. H.. L. I. Got Injured that year. So I dropped a little bit five rounds maybe and I didn't even know I don't even think I interviewed with Philly or they seen me or it was just maybe a lucky. Maybe let's take a look at this kid I'd had no idea it was going to be Philly I thought it was going to go in the second round. Yeah I got the call from the agent. I got the call from the agents because everybody goes to the draft and I two around right? Yeah. Maybe todd you sit this one out and I was like I'm here things devastated but. So I didn't go to the draft, but donny was my agent originally. Yeah but I gas him. Probably, my first, my second contract actually said I'm not doing anything with you. And I heard I heard a more I want I heard I heard that he I heard that these you hear about this stuff with these fucking agents I heard that what happened these guys? So they had to players on the team me and another guy, and they'd leverage my contract with the other guy. So we'll give you this guy for this in this side of that. So some people you know close to the team and management stopped that said, you know maybe you should consider. Kind of getting flip-flop Manso. Honest honest kind of tip in the right direction from somebody that shouldn't have been tipping me in the right direction. So that was kind of my introduction in my first and second NHL contract. But it worked out it was based on trust and I gas the man 'cause I trusted the guys that I was playing with and I got rid of them hired a Brad divine best agent ever, and he's your guy for the rest of your guy for the rest of my career I I still talk to them to this day. He's a good man he's done now but rule a good guy from western Canada. To Philly I. mean you spent one year in the minors coast. NHL But then you get up and you're playing and rookie year like you became the guy and. You're basically exactly what a Philly fan looks for in a player. Especially, a flyers fan you were running up and down your plane that Flyer style. So I'm guessing they must've taken to you right away in terms of like. When the fans behind you two different feeling I would know what at least business told me I think I think that's why I make my home in. Philly because even when I got dropped the my dad and my dad's like. Let's the team you play a real tough game. I was like right on. That's right. Let's go to Philly. He's like where is that and I'm like it's way Oh way far way on the East Coast and we had to look at a map to find out where it was but. Yeah, I mean this city and Philadelphia I felt that they had really embraced that role is fans like and you hear it from behind you like. Two goals down or things are a little hairy. You hear him in the back and they support you and you know many fights where you get in the first few years in Philly I would. Try and fight every game that was my I was trying to get a bull be prepared to get into tilt every game so you're ready to go and. Every. Game if they had a guy than the only time, you took that night off that preparation office when you knew nobody was dressed. Sold, then you could play you know you could try try and play a little bit author trying to play the Blue Line and then you get to so much for that. Yeah you don't get it out. You don't get it out once in the first period or first couple of shifts you just going to be go grocery sticking you'll be sitting and watching the cheerleading. So that's the way it was coming and you didn't get. You didn't get minutes to get better. You Got Mistake Free Hockey and if you if you sat up or you don't work. You're not ripping rims at the practice next day if you don't get it on the wall twenty thirty extra after working on the Wallwork they're not gonNA keep around if you don't get it out and he could sat that's just that's the way it was back down I. Don't know if it's like that. Now don't lock your unit going back to the minors and playing with like the Carter and the Richards as that that type of movement was coming in and and you did correct get the opportunity when it caller cup yeah. We won the call the Cup your the lockdown around. Now I wouldn't play that game that the one game we had against you. What was it? You guys have like a third Russo we were we. Just Shit. The bad we were down. Three, one in the series and we had a game in in Philly and we had beaten Bingo in the first shout Bingo crushed every record that you're there. and. They were all year in the Ned Carter and richards common. So we're down three one, but we're up for nothing in the second period of game of game five. Four game six year we're going home you never know. Gang Gang. We lost eight, four, seven, four it was the biggest shit kicking in usually when a season ends. You know at the end of the game. However it happens like the coaches are like good season. You know what I mean that just like you mother fuckers. End of the season like we had a game the next day you're saying, okay see you later and then the coaches meetings a few days after that. That's humor. So you guys were so good that when those two came, it was like all right I don't think anyone's GonNa be able to stop these guys. My boy Freddie Meyer was on d. they just had. You had so many players on. Any Joel, an each all star Roster Dennis Seidenberg only picking in. Taronga mackey is he's the starting. Goalie Letsie Legend backup a little. Patrick Sharp Jeez on him John, Johnson, who's a John Slaney John Slaney. Never forget the guys can play. He was he was he never would twig big defenseman lumbering around and I think somebody every time like somebody chart music guy scored the winning goal and World Junior chirp them. So as as big as Bummer as the fact that there's a lockout you're not playing. Spending the better part of two three years there was like because the team was good was bearable or were you still like fuck the saint same? No I was a rookie for the first five years of my career. So going down in ALLOCCO was not a surprise. Literally, we either do if I didn't show up in rookie camp in in camp it was like warrant you here I've been in the League for three years guys were. These to do that, you had to be the guy there and I don't know what was going with this. What was the question you're ass? We'll just about being back down the mile. On the flip side you have this unreal wagon and then all of a sudden I think it was close to playoffs because junior was over and then richards and Carter and up signing, and then you get that injection into the playoffs squad. So yeah, that was that was cool. You I've never seen anything like that in hockey where two guys come in like we were on a run. So we were. Nobody was worried about where they were inserted to the lineup but we weren't expecting to go one to down the middle. People they are good, but it's still a high level league. How good are they going to be like Oh boy and they came in it was providence they think they came in at and Or maybe sooner I'm not sure when they came in memory and. And It was it was Richie with the lineup and nobody. Nobody nobody questioned it. We were just on that. Would you shot for that period of time because usually when guys came up like they had to fill enrolls earn that spot. So especially given the fact you'd had had a good team already these guys go first second mind center and that's cool that you guys were able to embrace that. Well, I think has to go to the first game that they played with us to I don't know the stats or anything, but I just know that if they didn't have if they wouldn't have played to a certain level or calabar than they would have been problems. But they came in and they played full stride. There were studs man they were started, and then that's when we really started believing we're going to we're going. We're GONNA win this thing like the whole way. True because you're great guys to these first round picks come in and their top, and they're thrown in the top two lines, and maybe I was playing first line senators bumped down. He's like what the fuck and these guys do all of a sudden richards toe drag goal next shift car snipe bar down you're like. Okay, there's nothing you can say, what are you GonNa do an Richie's? Leader to man this guy leaders in this game and I I didn't get that much time to play with them. But the time I did get to play the my really enjoyed him as a young player and I like the way the carried himself it was it was it was different, but it wasn't bad. He did things his way and that's what you want leaders to do. You want to follow the guys that Kinda this is the way that we want to do it and he had the team. You know what? I mean in those later years. I liked him as a player. I liked him as a player and I liked him as a as a team as a good guy. Are. You surprised that just on Williams's still plan. I know he was eighteen Mr game seven he was so Lippi when I started he was nineteen. Cocky and rightfully so but I got a lot of tilts for that kid early on so he helped. Her. Right Hey, you got these. That's what it's about. You got. He was a small guy and he was playing in an era or like to fifty was. Was the only one to fifty, but to twenty two. They call you the fridge. That's why they call me the fridge and Willie came in and and this kid just wins. He's just the winner man the Cuban pool or ping pong anything you got. You got him. You got him on the ropes. You got eight balls left William kicking your ass, and then he'd clean the table on you. And? You're just turpin. Thing he's like you've finding loser. Just one all the time things like that. He's a special player to. The Locker Room with Mr Styles himself Jeremy. Roenick. For a couple of years. Yeah. Did he leave any oxygen for the rest of what? No but I I learned how to have a good time and play this game Jeremy Real. Good. Have you can have a good time and you should have good time and you should have the boys together without brass around know at the bar and you gotta do that stuff and he was good about that because he did it right you know what mean he'd planet needs set it up and make sure that all the guys knew about it and all the guys there and we are in a setting and he he was really good at stuff like that and. There was older guys to like jared had a thing where you'd like to plays own way and when he came in and rex and Rico de Jordan? He bought in as well to the system. There's a lot of veterans on that team and and he bought in and he played some good hockey I man but I always fun now, Jr.. You played you're open. You're you're having a lot of success doing what you did for the flyers and four or five. You spend pretty much the whole year in the NHL. was that like hard for you or was it did not surprised after Camp I think it was. I think it was more about like I was in the NHL. We were locking out night become scab right? They were like your I didn't care about that. I was young enough I needed to keep playing. So I didn't care about that and I was making any money then anyways, I needed the play. But what I'm saying today even question you going down there because of the time you spent before in the NHL because most of those guys weren't weren't even allowed to do that right Carl come to fruition they asked me to play. They ask the asked me to play and Y'all an AHL contract I wouldn't mind yolk in some money playing because I. Was What my third year and I couldn't afford a year off. I was. Your development if you're going to. Turn into something better and. And I went down there and I started kind of rough because you said, you know you're not down here to fight and all this stuff and I was like, okay I'm GonNa get to play and it was good I got third line minutes second-line minutes and I played a little bit but the first game. Zenon Konopka comes and asks me to fight. Now, get away a little later it come on man let's go on like no, and then three times three times a rule of three times somebody guy, the guy asked me to fight three times. That's disrespectful. So I'd have to fight because you say, no twice the guys the probably told him ask him three times chain trainer sound bite off. Rule and then we went and it was a good fight and Started that. But I was on the bench in Freddie Meyer, pretty on team I was on the bench and they sent a clapper we were on the power play sent a clapper. ripped. Around and Freddie Marty's I watched his skate because he went onto the boards, put the foot there and it just ramp off the toll and Riley coach as in front of me when most intense guys you'll ever meet and he's in front of me and I looked past them around sure enough bang rate right or here and put a put a hole in my head above the size of. A looney. And abide by. I came busted my. Busted my orbital or my scientists county up here. And then Riley sitting right beside me and he's like. He's really intense. He's like dude. Just teach you and I'm like I'm in pain it hurt mad I'm like I'm like, yeah, and he's like Jimmy Jimmy's trainer. Just. Got Hit in the fucking head with a puck. Thank. You wrote the fuck and Heads Square and I'm like yeah man. Hole. In my head, stop talking it hurts. So I go back into the room can gear down and Chernoff online on the trainer's table coach. Is Geared on. That you right in the head man. Prevent. he cared he cared. But yeah, that's how my Ahl. Along Baseline test. Last night. I'M GONNA ask you about philly before we move onto Anaheim which were you played you guys had a fucking wagon that year. Ken Hitchcock we get We get some funny impersonations of him I'm sure you. You saw some funny stuff and I think that's why I got traded I. Think I think he caught me. Imitating him a couple times I had the assistant coach asking me to give them a little imitation I. The thing I did is I had I was weird man I didn't have to tend to you. I didn't have to pay attention to the XS and Os Right? I should have probably but I didn't and I paid attention to the mannerisms of of my coaches and you hit chat if you mannerisms. Couldn't I couldn't stop. He had tiny hands the small towns and he flexes cuffs before every meeting he went through a routine he'd he flexes cuffs and he Guys are GONNA be laughing. He'd flexes copied rap is tiny hit the cooler. Little had a little. Did it all the time and he wiggled when he walked the? Walk and Johnny Johnny Clara and Jr my book ends and I was in the corner stall. And I used to do this all the time and these guys. They couldn't keep a straight face anytime hitch walked around that corner they. They'd have to start the meeting with their heads down like this. It'd be like Johnny Jr get your heads up coaches in here. All the time. It was just funny and I. Just that was kind of the thing that years imitate hitch a lot and but you know what you know in his defense he was a good coach like as from an XS and Os guys you learned more under him. Appreciated, yeah you're very prepared but at the end of the day like you're. You're. Just, miserable first place team not so that's what it was like A. War On you and he wars welcome everywhere. He went like I'm taking away from his his credibility as a coach is a good coach but. Maybe. Not The best guy. You know, maybe not the best with social skills and stuff like that, and maybe that was part of his tactics because he pissed off about the type of coach your you've won eight in a row and you think you're gonna be going rink and it's going to be laughing and snap and the puck around. But no, it's. It's very tense. Was the same way in La, and eventually you know war on guys and I feel like I feel like. Tortorella is older school guy who was able to adapt at least a little bit in that sense I agree adapt is a keyword because you're not changing the guys you're DOPP at the and torched I. Think he's done a tremendous job because he's one of those guys that was a tough love guy number had him as a coach, but I played in Tampa with those. Guys and Marty seen the cavities spoke volumes of them yet he gets in your face and yet might not be the way but he's honest and he's fair with you. I've heard. So it didn't you guys didn't mind when he roused on you. You know in those times now it's it's not the same way and I think he's changed his tune a little bit. Speaking of grumpy coaches he had Randy Carlyle in Anaheim for copy as relationship with Nadia. How did you hear about the trade there and stuff? How did that go down to get to Anaheim Oh to Owen that was in the summer? Clarke called me. So what happened with that? I? Found out later that hitch hitch wasn't good with younger players right and I think Clark in the time it was time for me to try and get some minutes develop right and I don't think they see night I on that and Clark made the decision to. Trade meal out West. Anaheim I think burkey was trying to build a certain style out there and was looking for a certain players I. Mean you look at that team a lot of us were western Western players. Played with certain a certain level of grit and yeah. That's why I think that happened. So I got a shot with burkey man. He gave me a good shot and when I got there he said look I want I want to play like the bullies. This is what he said. He wanted to instill a style of hockey that was rough and rugged and in your face and. I he kind of gave me the rains without. So I was I took that on full bore and I think it was ready at that time of my career. So that's all that trade went down. The team who Salani men his was. He may be the most now the team that you ever had quite a few of them. He's awesome. He's really he's the happiest guy I've ever played with and he's a happy man and enjoyed the game he was that was a great like comeback from him because that lock Oh, year, he had to recoup his knee in. A couple of years before he's under Granado on the fourth line with Hurrell and going downhill and that year he recouped and came back and was flying had that step we could get away from guys and Randy Carlyle and him always had it elp. But in a fun way Randy Carlos, a good coach you know early on, it was a rookie season. He was feeling his out. He had a lot of good veterans Todd Marshawn, Scotty Niemeyer that both Niemeyer brothers and And then he had some young studs too I. Find it interesting. So you go from this dynamic of where these two young studs draft in the first round come up to Philadelphia and now you're playing with two other guys in a similar situation and gets Lafon Perry and you get to see these guys early on as well, very similar and just the way they came in and. I mean, there were already guys in in Anaheim that had that older presence at the Scotty needed Myers and those guys. Similar in a in a transition where you're all of a sudden these young guys are all of a sudden the guys. Yeah. It happened quick to like Ghezzi and Perry came in and they were are leading goalscorers. Right. Away right out of the Gaelic First Fifteen Games in this all you they're they're leading your team. We're on a road trip and I think they were actually leading our team points one and two and Berkey sends them down after they come to ringside with new cars. So he came yeah this is this is a great story. It's probably someone's Japa- for every player. Some some guys like everyone should spend time in the minors these guys maybe you can blue light them, they I, mean they were good but. You know what probably turn out pretty good for them because they didn't go down for a little stint. They went down for a good month. They rode the bus they put in their time and it was probably the best thing for them. You don't see it like that but I mean, we were even questioning it to like they're leaving our scoring. We need these guys keep them here and he's like fouling. You need to stand everyone you need to stint in the minor and Burke's Kinda like that and it worked out good for them to the I mean look at the players they are today but I got the opportunity to play with a man like. It was good because they were so young on the lines were Kinda sat and. I don't know I. Don't if it was that they were tentative but there eighteen year old kids. The protection factor I, think helped them play? I. Just said You guys can do whatever you want out here. Nobody's GONNA do anything nobody's GonNa, ties long as you put fifteen off my ass and. Whatever to fucking. I'm trying to get ten goals I got side came that I'm GonNa get plan and he's going to he's going to take me to dinner and a limo with. Can Hat on his own restaurant going on. That's exactly what the deal was if I scored ten. And we made this deal out I had seven halfway through the year. No. You didn't get it. I didn't get nine seven. He was probably the most point was probably paying Perry and gets off to stop putting them in up your arse. I had a lot of I had a lot of third assists inside our Blue Line. Go Cat for him. Yeah. Exactly. Know those guys were good nanny. I had a good season with those and you know what? I learned to play a little bit better because they were just so skilled mana. It was fun to put those guys for I. Think you might be the only twitter avatar out there. That's an x ray of somebody's skull, which is your own. You gotTa tell us the story behind that he can make out some of the screws and. Docked is the story. That was just that's my hardware man I'm proud of that shot on people think I'm crazy for liking not going through that and that's bullshit man that I put it all out there for my teammates and. Got Hurt and tried to get back on the horse and. Just. Kept going. That's what we do and if you're willing to sacrifice, there's a lot of honor in that and I think my teammates always appreciated that and and even even busy. It's like what? What was the final result of that that whole injury if you could describe it like doctors terms. saw this injury was broken orbital blown earner blown out orbital broken-cheekbone Zygi arch and I think I sock it. So I don't know what the is through the Punch Derek Boogaard Six seven, two, hundred, and seventy five pounds but he didn't punch from He. Hit The punch from here not here. So it was an awkward fighting a guy like that I put myself in a bad position I was wide open. And I tried to come back with a back fist. I knew I was vulnerable and I tried to come at him with a back vist to keep him from throwing because just tap to stop them. But I was coming this way. He was coming this way and the face broke. So we're not happen I didn't get out but I you instantly know you bust your nose you're like, okay. Something's wrong. I knew something was wrong. Touched my faces and there was I forget who the line meat was he? Fights he loved the way I fought. He's an older guy he's like aw fridge. Scam. No no might have been mayday mayday but he was there he was there in a lot of them and he said WHO Frigiere hurt and I knew I was hurt that time and I went by there benching Bronco out of oil-rich actually played with me in Philly. So we were closed in was kind of Chirp me like Africa g you got caught then. And as I went closer to their bench that smiles of elation from the loss from me, they faces kind of drop because they're like you could see. That's what I knew. I was like Oh man you like you're going off the ice and people are like, oh. What's wrong is and then now though dude, Hey, whoever did they work they a boat yeah. Quitting blogs. Free Swipe. Up. Remember Game Vinnie boombox I can't remember his name, but he was in Anaheim doctor he he passed on now. But yeah, he he fixed me up and so in ambulance right to the hospital or did you know there? Do you remember all I was in Minnesota So what happened is how in the back there came in and I started blowing my nose. So my sinuses that came out by knows right and he's like don't do that. And so is trying to get the pressure often he just trying to touch it and he's like. You need to go to the hospital. So we went to the hospital spent the night in the hospital. They didn't do anything loaded me up with drugs and then we the fly back. So we flew back to Anaheim. rusher on your. fucking lovely flight. Day Hand came with me and he awesome man he was awesome because he was mad at anybody that was getting in our way slowing us down. He's like get out of the way we gotta get this guy on the plane. He just he did all that and I remember that I remember because I was in a lot of pain men and take that flight and get back down was at the first and only time we ever buber no I fought him before I thought he did pretty good pretty good against them. I thought I won that one he came out of his Jersey and stuff, but I had fought him before that. Earlier was that your toughest injury as a pro or is it in in that was the worst one I'd never I was never the same after that one I had broken this side against Cairns earlier in my career in Philly he broke this side with the left Cairns as a big. Man, yeah, it's Yeah I put on. Good man. When when you say you weren't the same like. And we talked about this over the weekend is. When you come into this new fighter, you have the spunk about you and you're like raring ago did after that surgery and everything that you've gone through did you kind of question whether you want to even keep doing anymore or you just knew you had to but the passion wasn't there? No. The Passion was there when you was about, it was about earning a living like I had to prove that this injury wasn't going to stop now is only twenty six. So I was young I had a lot of years left in my body was healthy just my face so. I was it wasn't. It wasn't that I didn't WanNA. Do it. I knew I had to do it to earn a living in keep earning money? You know I want I had more years left but. I knew that at any like I, take it another shot there I could lose my I in you know. So that goes through your head. You know you don't WanNa lose your eyes and you don't. You don't want at some point you gotTa draw the line right and I I just didn't I too much years left I. didn't I didn't have like. Money money in the bank and those those come into play. You know and I tried to get back on the horse. You know. I just said you know what? If you fall or get back on it and I was never the same could I was always protective of that the the injury and I talked with a couple doctors wh what could happen and Yet tip your hat to the Docks GonNa tell you. You're never going to be able to do it. You know it's going to break. You mean you're fighting it's GonNa Break GonNa break again but you got to start thinking about those things and and I always I was always on defense after that. So I never had the cowboy like I like to fight like a cowboy getting fight take kits give hit somebody goes down. That's who wins but be broken face he can't. Take those hits anymore and you gotta worry about I had kids at this time. So there's a whole other ballgame now coming into play. So I was never the same fighter after that and it was a lot harder to get in fights because guys would ask me when I'd ask them. Are you sure what about your off and they didn't want to do it themselves and I would be like I have to fight them. This is my job I have to show up if. Those those are the toughest years for me. I went back to I went back from Anaheim when first place team where we knew we were going to win the cup that year on October man we knew and we believe that and. I got injured and ended up getting trade back to Philadelphia to like I was the worst year in Philadelphia's history that year. So I the worst is like that's kind of the worst thing you can do and the year before that of course, Anaheim made a bit of run I know you've played in twelve playoff games yourself. When we were talking this week you said Anita Meyer said something interesting in the locker room before the year they ended up winning it. When you guys got beat out and I. It was a great statement because it Santa's into the summer hungry like we knew something was going on this summer and we were all charged was he didn't say a lot. You often hear about the guys that don't say much and when they do say something you perk up and Scott, he was one of those guys and He just said we were real young team. The owners were new coaches were say new it's the first time. This these owners Samuel had owned a team right burke uses first time in Anaheim as a GM coaching I times young young team. So he's just like we thought we should be adding tonight here we we we figured we should beat them and we thought wrong or correct. They had pronger had gone a couple couple key wins at the right time and we still fill. We could beat them like we were the better team and he just said he is I remember word for word, but it was somewhere along lines like you know. You don't choose to win the cup. The Cup chooses you and you have to sometimes be patient and wait for that time, but you can't falter and you can't shake. I believe like a lot of you that you this year should have been our year but that's just the way this goals and we can't change that going into next year. and. That's all he said onto the cell. So all we were doing was like. It wasn't our time we're not done yet. So that's what we went into the summer with the we came back and come October then things started happening the summer when we got pronger. You're on a team and you have all those parts and then you get. The final being you know. Yeah and that was pronger we got we had pronger. Are One to. Come on. Guys are studs their legend how how crusher you got traded after you got hurt you gotta think like you you find the You feel like you're part of this team and you you've experienced winning a call. Now you're this close to a Stanley Cup and did you did you feel let down when they let you go given given the fact that it was after you got injured fighting for that team and yeah, I, mean those guys I did but I think that the way that it went I did I was upset yeah I especially when they won I watched every game I tortured myself I watched every game got that. You're right. It's. It's the worst especially when you're close those teammates men and I was close with those guys a lot of them. It sucked non it sucked. For wasn't it perils wall I know I think he got traded for a pick or something like that because it was perilous in Thornton was down in the minors with the team and Berkey needs to play a certain way so. I could understand the trade I. Don't understand why it happened was soon as it did like I was still in the hospital when I got traded in really I just got out that day actually so. To they knew that the injury and everything that's that's odd. The think maybe get another shot before he sends you. Well, maybe some things are said between the doctor and somebody who knows because he told my wife that I'd never play again and you know I mean the injury was bad. He said he's a car injure car accidents worse than this. So it was he was probably looking for my whatever does matter but I got fucking traded and I. I didn't like it at all but you know when I when I I understood after the fact because. The team played a certain way and they needed to continue to play that way because it gave him success. So you know perils came in and I remember shaking his hand when I seen him in there, I take care of my boys man and that was Kinda how I left it and he's like I'm happy to be playing because I think he got sent down or summer he was going up and down between Colorado and whatnot. So that's kind of how that went. It was awkward man because he was in the dressing room when I went in the dressing room and to get your shit to get my shit. I so Often in yeah. That's fine. You gotTA play this way and Go, get it Boyz I'll watch. Actually I'm from Philly to Philly for Mannheim for a fourth round. Yeah. That's what it was were. You release happy to be sorry to interrupt these. Happy to be going somewhere that you're at least familiar with given that you'd just experience this awful injury which you don't know what the ending result's GonNa be you get away from all your buddies you got a chance to win the COP. But at least I'm going home where they were. They love me in the fan base enjoys me and he and I think that's probably what the case was i. mean if you got to think that these guys that are in control of our lives, they have a little place in their hearts for us and I think with my relationship with the flyers I mean these guys are very good to me. gave me a shot and more ways you know so was probably my wife is from the area. So it was good that we we came back to this if you were going to go anywhere why not go where you kind of familiar that's I. Guess a positive out of it. Yeah. You ended up playing a Minnesota for a little bit as well. I want to ask about Jacques Lemaire Hall of Fame Player coached over twelve hundred games I. Think he's one of the most underrated coaches in the last dirty as what was your experience like with them well, if you can't listen to a guy that has a cup on every finger on the ring and not a fucking hockey. So. Lemaire. Lamar got the good guys to play like grinders got the grinders to play like skilled guys. I. Think he got the most out of his players and I really enjoyed my time with Jacques Lemaire. I thought he was the best coach I've ever. Played. Under and no shit. By far I thought he was the best coach I played under I think, I think it was the way that he motivated guys in and we said at one time it's easy ultimately comes down to love. So he said you really have to a good coach. You have to attack the love your players like they're your own and get the most out of you got a norm like that and that was something that I was used to hearing in the in the tough old world hockey but I respected it man because he was hot US prepared and the way he approached the game he's a mad scientist. He had different ways of doing things. It was a good coach. What was the longest term deal you signed in as a pro three years three year deal was Phoenix Yup Donald Shot One don Malone gave me a shot. They're three million bucks over three years. The big deal for tough guy millions. Of million a year there's only two guys that did it before me and it was Donald Brashear and tied only tie Domi set the stage for us he he put up twenty goals. But. Yeah. You said Pat Burns was a big reason for that and allow them to play and really. Embrace not only the fighting aspect but the fact that he was going to be playing with some decent players and like you said the one year he backed it up offense. Yeah he did did. So guys are putting up enough time, but I was still injured so. I look back at it now, and I gotta think that that's kind of the way hockey takes care of the game, the player some sometimes I probably. If. You look at that from investment point I was I was damaged goods and I still got that deal. So that's what I was. GonNa. Say you actually had a good year in many though to get that deal after all All the injuries and that's I. think that's Lemaire like I got. Play and I probably good Karma coming my way but. It worked out. I got the call from Gretzky on how about this like I'm from Edmonton right you got to understand this like Wayne Gretzky call on. Anybody's cool. But winglets, he called me being from Edmonton being from. Red. Water. I was smitten I was smitten. Now we're on the beach and Avalon I was with my family and and. I I know it was free agency. So it was like days after free agency is the trickle down to me. Right I wasn't being the guy sign on the first day free agency leftovers and then. He's like, yeah hello. This is Wayne Gretzky and I went like this I stood up to my family was like. Mr Johnson `Cau- yeah. And he's like wow, look sog we signed Ya and welcome to the team and you know we're looking forward to having Phoenix where are Ya and it was like From Edmonton so he touched on Edmonton and and It's funny because Tim occur actually owns a real estate company down there. So I signed my first like million dollar my ticket that's my ticket, a three, million, three years over three million. That's that was my ticket and I signed it in his office and it was pretty cool. You know I went to got to go to Phoenix is beautiful city man. If you last professional season. It was probably I duNNo. If it was unusual for you but you played for a former teammate and rick talk it. Yeah. What was that relationship like the change at all respect me for fucking stent ten straight games another? No, it was good talk. It's another one of those guys like you know it was his first year as the head coach so. There were I. Don't know what happened the year before and whatnot but I enjoyed playing talk was a guy that I looked up to his player I got to play with them as well and. And played under Herman in. Tampa. But by that time it was it was nearing the end of my career oates is there and I did a lot of work with him off ice and stuff like that. He couldn't save this guy get me another career man I was too far gone. Debunked Adam oates. Congratulations. Guy. Can. Work with anything. On a miracle worker here. Maybe time maybe time you're done. Something about doing other things. Like that. So you kind of knew that was it I mean you've been through so much Yeah ten games in a role damaged goods. I was your twenty nine years old you know. So young and all of a sudden it's over. Well, yeah. Well, yeah. I do done some shit to deserve that but doing I'll meet some bad choices and shit and the bought me out they bought Oh my contract. So that's how that can get the whole three million. I didn't get the whole three million but you know what I I I wasn't wasn't the responsible player. I was fucking around off the ice and. We didn't really touch on that much. We have a decent size platform here and and we think it's an important message. You've been tenure sober now. Yeah. Congratulations. That's incredible and of course, we've mentioned on the podcasts before that's like an everyday battle but you know what was it like trying to balance this like this career while while going through these these ups and downs and you know where it brought you, I will early on. There's a whole story to this but early on, it was the the teammates the embrace you know me being sober in Philadelphia and I was twenty years old. So you're supposed to start drinking when you're twenty one states and I was done, I was fully done by twenty. So I I kind of approach the team and put it all out there and There were more supportive than I had ever imagined. So like if there's times when you need to get away, not ever a problem like I was the Ninja Dusk, King? So They let me get away. So but in in Tampa just it, it progress I relapsed over over the couple years before that, and it just got to the point in Tampa or. You know it was bad and I to walk away from the game. So I didn't have to walk away from the game. My contract was bought out but I didn't seek to find another contract at all I, the work on some things and And I had to take a year to really try and get my shit back together man. There's a lot more to lose than you've got kids and a wife and a life that you built up a reputation that. In all honesty I made the choice to pick that shit up and get back in that and it fucking take things from you know slowly. So it took my career for me and you know what I made it right and and and got the help they need to get in. Good for your mind you that's the part of it. You gotta you gotTa. Get to place. He can reach out for help. You gets dark and deep guys. You always have somebody that's around here with you. Your teammates whoever it is man you gotTa talk you gotTa. Reach out for help. It's not a weakness at all it strengthen your down there and you need the fucking ask for help takes a lot of strength courage fucking build up a little bit of juicy need to say I got fuck them problem need help so I think this would be a good time to mention your wife who we you know we talked about she stuck by during these difficult times you have three beautiful kids out of that. You'RE GONNA fucking get any crying Biz adds. This is what this podcast what right like like you she and Shit is a brotherhood and emotional and I think that a lot of guys have been through these ups and downs and some of them are still on the downs and I think the conversation is important because there's a lot of people out there who looked at you like you're this you know bigger than world thing and and knowing that you also went through. Those types of things helps them to to normalize it and get the help they need. Yeah we have. We have a fucking high-octane lifestyle we've gotta go. We've got a release we've got to relieve ourselves, and that's part of the nature of the things that we do. We operate where very few people can operate and things get fucking Harry and things can get broken and things can go sideways. It's nature of the business that we play. And some guys turn to things that they're not supposed to turn to. The always one of those guys in and that's very prevalent than our game. It's very prevalent society now on, it's it's a it's a it's worse than the pandemic that we're in I. Think this is something we've got to deal with societal level, but you talk about my wife and my family and Having somebody. That's there for you. You know that just means the world. Yeah. Makes time sometimes in life you just get that. You get a little gift from big man upstairs and choose one of those people from me so. She's She somebody that makes me better. You know on a daily basis and Sticking by somebody that's gone through shit like that. Just wanted to better as all she wanted so. I tried ten years is is is a nice little chip on the shoulder to say I put that bottle down. But it on a daily basis I don't I don't regret for one second or or. You know I don't look back on the fact that I'm not a fucking lucky man have a woman like that in my life not that's part of it. Man There's a lot of people a lot of women that. Chuck Taylor leaving. They have every right to do that. You know we we fuck things up and we get mixed up with this shit and she stayed by me and. I gotta tip my hat man Casino a thousand people just quit on me. I was going to say it's it's so much easier to quit and just be like that's it. You know and to stick by that. I can't imagine the work you guys went through and what you've done and she's done. So that's just amazing to hear because in business when you talk about brotherhood and people that mean so much to you whether you play with them or not. A lot of times you see guys who are doing this single they're going through this stuff alone. So it's like taffer there. That's really special to hear I'm really happy for you. The family's most important and things like that. But even our fraternity to there's there's some there's some guys out there. That will always gonNA need somewhere to go and somebody to call and I'll give you my fucking number. I think people would love to take. Done Fridge, we want to thank you for joining us. If there's anything you wanted to mention and all you want to somebody's wife store or something. Is a couple things on a mentioned. We're GONNA talk about sobriety and you know like what I'm doing. Now my job my job now is like I work on the front lines with these guys I work with a detox out of. New Jersey and. You know the CEO, Brooks Brooks he has. Become a really good friend and we have like minded approach to this in Oh. This is ninety per ten percent. Madison thing in a ninety percent human thing and that ninety percent human thing is if you know and you've been there and you've come back from that, that's what helps these guys in. I never fucking thought be working with these people on a daily basis. I just believe that I'm what? That's what I'm here to do. So I'm always there for that guy needs that little shot of hope to get out of that space 'cause it's fucking can be a real dark and a lot of people fucking die daily basis because of this thing. So. Appreciative of that and what was the question? Would just any any told? Dennis Seidenberg was we were rookies together we and. I, I want to tell a story about Dennis. I probably get pissed he's now working. Fault yes, he is. He is a very respectful story. If we all know, we all know do. We'll just added yes and didn't even want save name what you said it. So that's on you lose little copy you now. Yeah we it was funny because it was with Justin Williams and myself and Dennis Seidenberg. He's still married to the Rebecca. The same woman Dennis is still married to or not Dennis Justin Still Hillary to Kelly. I'm still married my wife and this is our first trip. We were young having fun. We took the Jetskis, our the Bahamas, and NASA and. We went on this little island. We weren't supposed to be there, but we decided to raise back. So I was on mine with my wife Kelly and Justin had their own and Denison back he had. There's so we get on all three of us at the same time. It's just hit the gas and goal right? So we're like a guy you. Bang we take off. It's me and Willie we look back then it's starting to. You can't get going and they couldn't get going at all. We just talked till the when we didn't look back raced all the way back we get to shore we back on on the on the water like they must've stop messing around or some go up to the hotel room figure they're going to go there room. Four hours. Later we go down for dinner and we're like. If you seen Denison Becky? Their Jetski broke down. They got stranded on an island wasn't even a fucking tree on it. There was just a little branch for hours in the Sun. The. Island because they're thing didn't break down we didn't even think to look back correct. Yes and didn't even look we were racing I'm not going to look the guy behind me I'm talking about this Brotherhood what's going on and he's also competitive basketball. Win Race. That's true. So the reason that way they got off. Some big yacht with like a beautiful hot tub like. Not It was a really nice. They're like tiger. Tiger. It's perkins waitresses. Seen them later for dinner that night and they were lobster red man we. Saying. He's so nice. He probably wasn't even that mad. No, he's just like. It's okay. He's the nicest. Guy. Man. I. Love. You know what he he's. He's a consummate professional this guy trained like a I. Might still be playing. You know if every guy is more than this'll be works out like a loves it. He loves it and you know you gotta like guys like that. Yeah. He was an animal. He played here, I, wish I got the bump into him over the weekend and you want to mention his wife's store that she started and that's a quick out for them. What's the name of it? Yeah. It's offsides and offsides. They've got online boutique store. She does things by appointment and I think they got some stuff to the. Bowl rat speedo. I'm sure you could get some pretty stuff there. She's I mean she's got some style Biz in you. I. Know You're one of those guys that likes to wear nice shoes and stuff so Here, my birkenstocks. Auction birkenstocks. Fridge. Thank you so much. Agree career and a great guy and I think everyone's GonNa really love listening to. Thank you. Door join us not only did he join us for the show Schlep all the way up here from New Jersey with his buddy Dennis Seidenberg, they took a ride up salt big banks for coming all the way up man I mean everybody is willing to drive for hours to come on the shell. We would've got Seidenberg on, but he works for the islanders and there's no chance index chance who's GonNa let them but a good him he's got a great job. I think he's doing player development I. Think he helps also guys win the comeback from injury? Skate get back into shape. He's a tank. So Hank he is a you he looks like a who is a sergeant in the army Or Hardcore Parker and. What's the other one? The the? One doing all those exercises, all time and lifting weights and throwing weights around cross cross fit cross fit if you cross fit, you're not sought God bless you. Yeah. Cross people I do cross fit to buy back my pussy em I crack. Have you ever heard what's been complaining about is fucking neck since I got no, I got a remote my body such a mess. Do you know I was checking in actually? Okay. So I was. Checking into a hotel in Moscow and there. Somewhere rush I don't know exact the city and it was the song in the lobby playing like lightly was my neck my back lick I more or it was. It might have been booted him. Off. It was one of those two Corey Emerton was there. He'll back this up I like to. Be Music. Magin great segue though now that you mentioned boys because most guys have tried different ways to last long row man thinking of Champs doesn't always work folks at Roman and online men's health company at changing the game with Roman swipes the secret to long lasting sex Roman swipes story clinically proven way to last longer in bed they're effective easy to use fast acting and the best part they don't require prescription. 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Who Bobby Brown but I I was thinking about my next question see my brain was going somewhere else because you mentioned today that because we were talking about Boston the town had something special happen to today. Ra have to we're going to open. We're GONNA open up the whole trip with the fact that I was brainwashed and had to watch the town four times in a row with their. Is Open clower. And now we're going to end it. So, what was the story? The story is he sent a tweet out to us of there's an oral history that came out because it's ten years since the town and now my only thing I know offense because I know you're starting at. The town does not deserve an oral history like it was a very decent. By. That's why do you think it was an unwritten movie IRA or did you even kind of admit it's a little no I honestly when I shot I wouldn't I wouldn't say skeptical I was. Curious 'cause. Yeah. It's about your hometown and it's it's there's a potential that it could get it get screwed up real bad. But when I come out of it, I was like impressed with it I thought it was really a a well done movie very I mean athlete did a great job but obviously, I'm biased a minute it's my hometown but I really thought it was movie I thought it was very well done. So you're basically acting like they're acting like a shank redemption. Yes. Yes. I think oral histories for movies like the godfather part or good. A problem child oral history of seen ever. We the red headed sick cable movies unreal. But I was just like world history for the town. Okay. Well, that's a good question for audience. Do you think that the town is? A pull up is the town worthy of an oral. It that's what's the standard for an oral history. I mean I've seen true oral heroes all about anything online. All you do is we'll see I've only seen very legendary things like member you've sent me the one on hoagie nights caddyshack Yogi nights. There was I wasn't. I didn't even know what the fuck and oral history. Oral Oral Histories on fucking five year old commercials I. Think it's a ten year anniversary and that's the biggest triggered right about anything on the these days also in the acting field need to talk about the fact that Jim Carrey is going to be playing Joe Biden in this upcoming season of SNL are they considered seasons? Yes. Okay. Yes. I listen I think Jim Carrey is funny and I think he's GonNa. fucking nail it, and that's that's a name that would draw me back into watching Saturday night live he i I'm not sure. I think maybe the Hologram of John. Belushi. The only thing to get me watching that show again and listen I watched the from the GEICO. I've always liked it. I haven't swayed have way of political reasons. I just don't think the show just doesn't make me laugh anymore like it used. Hoping. Jim Carey's injection does yeah. I mean I it's still that's only one guy only one character I mean what it is is that those people write their own skits scheduled we'll call US for that show will the performance there are other there are others want performance but how you get on that show is you write your own your own shit that ended the good stuff while back in the day rose to the top. It's a show like I said I. Just don't find that funny I. Wish I. Did I grew up on it it's one of the all time classic shows but I know Jim Carey Biden, it's like. You know as much as I like Jim Carrey and his work. I don't know all fair enough just dunked on. You know how the block in that fucking NBA game that was the most amazing block I've ever seen in my life. Bass while last night Jason Tatum was went to Slam I think it was yeah. He was trying to dunk dunk home the tying horse three seconds left down to drives the lane listen to me describe who goes off. Like a windmill this dude put his fingers. He must have the strongest longest fingers. You must be unbelievable getting girls going and he blocked this like ninety miles an hour. I'm serious. There should you should bits bits I swear to God it's the best walk I've ever seen in my life in your Fox is melanoma all girls. Used to be willing to go on a friend would just like blong heisman. GET OUTTA my. Pitch to with the guy's hands practically bent into the. Rim. How that? Jointed. Definitely. Definitely. One of the best blocks down you're going to be on TNT next year to be getting joined the panel the way you're describing these basketball play. You can make anything sound interesting, but I want to hear this golf story. Oh. Yes. Oh okay. Go ahead. Oh No. Just a couple of times before. Okay. We'll wait till that. Yeah. No, we usually finished with the golf her big news in Washington they named Peter Laviola their coach are believed to be three year deal. He's still under contract with the press for next season for making two and a half mil but I guess the caps are going to cover that as part of the deal and I also the flames removed the interim tag from Jeff Ward. So he's going to be the head coach and Calgary he signed a two year deal. So he's probably going to be celebrating with some Nice Budweiser up in Canada bizarre. Here we go. Maybe I got the address now before I start reading all no. I don't need that. Now no one knows anxiety. You're kind of being like me on the golf course bad teammate Guy Right. Now I'm GonNa Start Reading this explain exactly those what we got going after and this is in quotation. Time to stop your whining CA sports is back. I'm talking all the sports. 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Now to see how you can get into the bud bubble, you should see how they spelled called hard cash so that he would read it called Hide K no I actually ad Lib back because it said Coulthard Hard Moolah and registered to my brain before I read it and I switched it at the fucking goal line audible in an ad. Read. Get outta here you breath is a bad. Yeah Perry. Well, a guys this budweiser obviously I think it's a cool concept, very similar that C. H. O. Thing I did and we've been promoting it all over our social channels including mine. So check it out and you get paid to hang out with somebody's an your own little sports and you know drink some buds you promote stuff on your social change shut the fuck up. How about that address read You actually just read as well as I've ever seen you. Do I think I know what you did during quarantine hooked on Phonics Yup. Stuff so quit story we'll wrap it up this story's. Little overblown. Now, it's but it involves winged foot and that's where this week's US Open being being played. It's like it's an amazing course, two courses but one of them the West courses where they play the US Open's now it just crushes guys, right it's the hardest course in the world. Some people say so I'm GONNA, leave the names out of the out of the story because you know I don't want anyone to be offended or anything but. I got two buddies. One of them's a member wing foot these two buddies. They're married two sisters, right. So they're these these two friends of mine their father-in-law, their wives father is a legend Unbelievable Golfer, malaria guy. So. He goes for around at winged foot where the US Open just crushes pro golfers and he gets to the third hole in the third wingfield is this week I think it's plain to forty three right? It's crushing taking kill you. I don't know what it played in one, thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, nine, that year, Billy Casper won the US Open winged foot a legend Billy Casper Hall of Famer and so when my friend's father in law gets up to the third hall, the caddy's are telling them. Yeah. So what happened here in the fifty nine us open is that Billy Casper laid up singing time he played and made par all four rounds so he would lay up short of the green and then he hit a Wedge on buried the pot he's like I'm not China hit a unbelievably perfect shot and end up making double bogey I'll just lay up and worst case I make bogey while he made four times. So they tell my friend's father in law the story and he's like Oh. Cool. While this guy's sick golf he gets up there and hits an absolute fucking bullet right at the Penn. Bank. Bank. In Hole in one third whole compass par-three on the course what is this legend proceed to do? Running down the fairway screaming belly cast racket Suck my dad. So. All respect to Billy Casper I think Casper's thought of as I. Love but to be told that this hall of fame laid up every round and then to ace it. I think that if I had been there I would have been crying laughing. Bomb Wing Foot story but I'll say right now I've played. This course should be grey week and there'll be some really high scores we should play sandbags there. I don't think they'd ever let us do that. But if they did, we would get murdered. So. I was great. Great Short Golf. Talk I'm sure the fans will love that. Sounds good. All right gang that wraps up another episode everybody have a fantastic weekend. Then we'll catch you back here Monday with Tema the latest results as always like to thank God dynamite sponsors here on spitting chick. Let's big. Thanks to everybody at New Amsterdam Vodka and pink. Whitney huge next everybody over at Thursday boot. Super Comfy. Love that leather smell big tax everybody over at simplisafe keeping everybody safe during these crazy times. 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Post Game Reaction 2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs Flames/Stars Game 3

Starcastic Remarks-The Only Dallas Stars Fan-Led Podcast

13:24 min | 7 months ago

Post Game Reaction 2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs Flames/Stars Game 3

"That pretty much sum up your thoughts tonight. Yes. Welcome, back to star cast their remarks, the only stars fan led podcast. This is Ryan. The moaning was done by Chris. And I think. I think that can sum up the game. Right? We can stop at thirty one seconds. Post a podcast. Yeah To Tar Dr Anyway Yeah I know same here yet two nights in a row doing this is rough but. STARS LOSE TONIGHT With the final score of two nothing. And this was not a usual. Shutout game like it was the previous. Week and a half. I know they got shut out today but. I think there were two keys to this game will really all I'll say three because there was one I just thought of The first one is Cam. Talbot had an incredible game he was nuts. Especially towards the third period, the first few periods stars would definitely missing but the third period he stood on his head and he was a brick wall. Just frustrating they, the stars couldn't. Couldn't grind their way to a goal like they have been able to. That's the only way to. Get past and stars just couldn't get the energy to do it I think the second thing for tonight. One of the keys was just we're just can't execute. We had all the scoring chances and we just could not execute I can't tell you how many times I yelled at the TV. Oh my goodness how did that not get in the back of the net that's especially with the especially with Miss, shots autonomous shot this game especially if one timers Sagan miss at least three times. John Mark Miss at least three times. Hence Miss Multiple Times. It's just secondhand two or three. Great. Scoring chances that he has to bury he's paid bury those folks. There there's no reason why he should be missing those. If we'RE GONNA win Hockey Games, they gotta put those great chances in the back of the net and that's what we were talking about all season. So yeah, it's either we score five goals or we scored zero goals. In and this just goes back to what I was arguing online all over facebook on twitter poor Khudobin just does not get any goal support he led in two goals. When you let in two goals, you should expect to win. Yes speaking of let's go on a little. got a little tangent on that one. So go for. Throughout. This game the stars were definitely the best team. Pretty much from whistle whistle. Stars overall, much better than Calgary, the two goals. Calgary Calgary scores are. Both insane flukes like the I was not even a shot the guys trying to pull it around to his forehand slips off in bounces off over the skit who would open stick when he just decided to start going for a poke check and it rolls off of his padded end, the net that that's I haven't seen a luckier goal since the Roussell goal that bounced over the net off of escape in the playoffs and around two. And then the next goal we've got five people in the shot. Lane? It just touches nobody. Like what on earth so I had my friend over tonight news. He has the mindset that the stars of the most unlucky team in the stat he's the back that up is the amount of post hits the stars of had over the past five years. And Its way higher than the second most team. Is just it just seemed like the stars had no puck tonight. Calgary had all of it. That top of that Talbot stood on his head, just a frustrating game. Let's talk about the different players had chances today. The first person that jumps to mind is Sagan Sagan had at least three like you mentioned three great chances and he hit the post on two of them. So they didn't even count as shots on goal for those particular two chances yen mark look excellent. Tonight he played a great game but as we've seen it as facebook people have mentioned, he's got no finish. Yeah. I'll mention the Corey Perry group again it's a running joke that. Gay. Mark. Just can't put a puck on the back of the net and he hasn't been able to do it three years. The He could easily and I'm not. I. Think. He could easily have goals maybe not quite twenty maybe fifteen to twenty. Maybe. Like Jake virtanen level of goalscoring but. It's just so frustrating I. This game was just very frustrating. Just to watch all these players have chances own. Let's not forget the the Klingberg chance wide open wide open net I mean there there's no way that Talbott would have. Would have gotten over to make that stop. And claimed just shanked it. So that's just the story, the game started the better team they miss their chances and Talbot stops all the rest, and that's just what that's why it's so frustrating this because the stars deserve to win this hockey game, right? They're the better team tonight I bet even flames players would admit that and we we can't put it together. We can't find a way to win. That that's the scary part about this hockey team to me is that it just feels like we're not a winning team. And that's just the scariest part. Well, and that's what I've been arguing. We cannot let the first goal in we can't with the style of game that we play. We cannot be chasing majority of the time yesterday or I. Guess Technically two days ago was was a different game that was a different game. The stars were ticked off. They repealed they finally came out decided to play. But the we can't let in the first goal. And I know that first goal was still a fluke but it just felt after that it just felt demoralizing after that considering that all the great chances we had at that point, we probably had about five or six. Different chances where we could have been up to three maybe four nothing if every single one of those chances winning but not a single one of them winning so. I'm not going to put this on the stars tonight. They just didn't have any PUCK club tonight. The only thing I can say is they ran into a hot goaltender and they just didn't execute now that I can't put on them but other. I don't know. I don't know. The main point of this game has tablets steals a game, right? A goalie finally wins a game in this series and. I. Still Think we have better goaltenders and I'm just hoping I'm expecting been bishop to be on a mission game for to. Still One right back. Well, and that's why I know a lot of people were saying, Oh, well, it makes a lot of sense to see who been in this game but I was arguing I'm like we don't play a strong in front of dove. Unlikely. We do bishop in we in we mentioned this a lot yesterday, which was a bishop's. PUCK moving skills. Maybe that's the x factor I. Don't know. But the the stars the. The edge just wasn't there as much tonight as it was yesterday and again. Obviously. Tired. Bodies. Like the stars were better than they had been during the round robin play in Game One. So it's just Chock in this game up mostly to tell stealing it well, and the only the only other thing that I wanted to mention this is the third thing that I wanted to mention was. The Our power place I think we had four tonight. Four for a we were over four on the power play, and again we had opportunities and we just didn't convert on them, and maybe that's Karma from hockey gods allowing us to score five goals yesterday, and then they're like Ooh no more today but. Other, than that. A. Man Yeah the. The power plays gotta find some finish their and we talked about this series previews acted a lot that special teams is GonNa be a big factor, this game and. The stars have definitely not played up to it they. have. had equal amount of shorthanded goals for the flames. He's we've as we've had power play goals for the stars. Sorry. So tired can't talk right now. But that that's got change we gotta find people to bury the puck and especially this game. We just needed someone to step up and. Like Razor said he said he said it feels like if one goes in. Four going to go away bright but we just couldn't get the one. We couldn't get the one pass Talbot so just sucks at the goaltender steals the game when we think that goaltenders are better will when you look at the shots on goal. The Calgary flames lead in the first period eleven to eight, and then after that, the stars dominated with shots it was sixteen to four. In the second period with the favored going to the star in. The period that Calorie takes the lead sixteen to four shots and we were down one nothing, and then the third period shots on goal were eleven to eight in favor of the stars with the grand total. In the stars favor thirty, five, twenty, three in shots. And you know they were talking about it on the post game show. That's actually still going on right now just the amount of shot attempts. Were like two to one. And when you look at the blocks that was a that was nearly the only category. that. The flames lead in other than like A. Percentage and a half on facebook. Yeah and I wonder why they have more block and tell you why they were there defensive zone the whole game well in its now I will give I will give them a little credit in the first period. After about the ten minute mark, they were running around a little bit. The stars were in their own zone and flames got a little bit of time. But other than that. You're right we were in their zone it felt like the entire game and we just could not get one past. Firkin. Cam. But. Yeah I mean this podcast is going to be shorter, but it's really not much else to say like. Yeah, but steals a hockey game. It's going to happen in the playoffs but we've got to expect. We. We all still believe are goaltenders are better both I think both of them are better than Talbot honestly, and I have full faith that Bishop comes out game for he's GonNa shut that thing down and he's GonNa Steal that game yet. I mean. There's really nothing else for us to say here I just wish that they had converted on a couple of chances. All we needed was three. Like we had like a dozen or Maybe. Two dozen chances. And it just ridiculous. The good goaltender performance takes good goalie and it takes a lot of luck and Talbot had both of those on his side and. Thirty five saves. That's a great outing. That's just that's a stolen hockey game. Stars got about back. Now we'll have to see how they react sometimes. They should just call instead of calling it hockey. They should call it goalie. This game was goalie versus Golez. This was a game of Ice Goalie not ice hockey. Alright. Well, sorry guys. That's all we got for you tonight. There's really not much else to talk about this has been another episode of Star cast remarks. We'll be back on Saturday when the flames take on the stars at one pm that's going to be an early game. Compared to what we've used the past two games. So Stars lose tonight with the final score of two to nothing. Full, sarcastic remarks on twitter star cast are you can also like our facebook page dark remarks and you can also find us on Youtube at star cast. As well. Thank you all for joining us Chris any final thoughts before we close out the blue still suck. Yeah. The blue still that makes the today a little bit. Curious, playing well too. So that will save that for another day. Good night everybody.

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2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs Avs/Stars Game 1 Round 2

Starcastic Remarks-The Only Dallas Stars Fan-Led Podcast

26:52 min | 6 months ago

2020 Stanley Cup Playoffs Avs/Stars Game 1 Round 2

"Welcome back to start castic remarks. Thank you guys for tuning in but before we get started, I just want to wish my wife a happy birthday is her 27th birthday today. She if she is the absolute love of my life. She is great to our two kids and she is a great godly woman Christian woman. So I just wanted to mention this on the podcast. Love you Amanda took off and welcome back to start haschak remarks. This is Ryan. I'm here with Chris again how d m e r super excited about that game one, but what's your overall opinion about that game today Chris? That was a great game. It was fun to watch from beginning to end. I was on the edge of my seat pretty much the whole time. I was just happy with it overall as soon as that as soon as that last goal from rope a went in it was just a great sense of relief off my chest it was great. I loved it. Well, so two things that before we go on to some of our talking points today first things first rope and hence finally scored his first goal after shooting twenty four times and he finally scored today. Yeah, he's had his fair share of chances to so it was about time he finds the back of the net. Hopefully that opens up some floodgates and he scores a bunch of the series. That would be nice and especially in game five fifteen games six. He had multiple chances to get on the scoresheet and he just didn't and then I already forgot the second thing. Tyler Seguin scored his first goal. Yeah. So yeah, so that kind of leads us into our first talking point the first line scored points today Ye pakka Ye Raja love with two goals. So he's not going to score again for the rest of the season and Seguin scored and Jamie been looked awesome and had three assists. So that was pretty sick. Yep. They all they all look great. They look like they're moving their feet hard and obviously they're on point with their shots. Second shot was a snipe Reggie loves goals were very rigid lavash goals. He kind of just threw off the net and they found their way in but that's what that's what we need. Our big guys to do need them to be willing to take those Scrappy goals and to get them. How are we can however we can well and this is what you were talking about before the first series started against Calgary and we were able to overcome Calgary without our big three scoring like they should have but if we continue to score like this, yeah. Yep. How much easier it is and now we click on the I think the the Stanley Cup favorites and we kind of just we we took him to school this game. I mean, they would still they're still closed the entire game but it still felt very much at Dallas's control throughout now. I will admit that I will admit I will just say Jared Bednar the coach of the Avalanche came out right after this game and he was very ticked off. He was very very mad. And he was making comments such as long as you know, it's almost like we were playing with them just to see how they would react rather than playing our own game. So that's great. That's kind of a good thing cuz it means that we met haven't seen the best of the Avalanche yet. So it'll be more exciting against the stars, but We took advantage of that, you know, everyone's saying that like, you know, the stars are getting lucky the the Flames imploded on themselves, which yes, that's true. But we took advantage of that and then the same thing today they have luggage didn't full what today but did we take advantage of that? Yes, that's what we're supposed to do in the playoffs. Yeah and implosions always have something that the other team did to you can't just I mean unless she literally scoring on yourself and you're not going to lose the game. We didn't score one twelve seconds left and in that game for just because the Flames let us I mean we were grinding the entire. Score that goal and same thing here. We see that this team is just Nathan just McKinnon right now and we're like, okay. Well, we'll go score more goals than MacKinnon so long. I think that's definitely it's definitely pretty ridiculous from hockey personalities to say that they obviously just don't want to admit that Dallas is a good team in my opinion dead. No one wants to talk about Mera Hast getting no one wants to talk about how great of it how great of a young core we have. It's it's it's frustrating from the big personalities great place to bring in the Brian Ray tweets, right? Yeah. So so during the first intermission for those of you that didn't see or you don't follow Brian Ray who is one of the broadcasters during the emissions during the Fox Sports Southwest broadcast. He put up a tweet and during the first intermission about how they did a a huge thing about kill MacArthur during the first intermission and he was just like so we're going to be expecting something about that in the second intermission for me, right? He's getting right, you know, the guy who is second in scoring. Yeah, obviously off Family obviously sarcastic and of course, no nothing from Embassy during the secondary Mission heard a lot about McKinnon in the second intermission. Oh my goodness. Wow. And you know to his credit he is an incredible player other than maybe McDavid and maybe draisaitl he is one of the best players in. Yeah right now with the teams that are still in the playoffs. He's definitely the best player. Yes, like by far. He's the best. Best skater still still playing so and he was the best he was the best player today even against our skaters. He was dead player. Here's the best on the ice. He scored two goals by himself pretty much so he's kind of nuts that Yeah, so he does deserve to be talked about but talking about my car over. Hey skin in his kind of ridiculous. Hey skin is if if you know anything about hockey or knew what two numbers those two defensemen wearing you would say by far more hits and then was the better defenseman and he has been throughout the entire season series. So the only reason I should talk about the cars cuz he's on a more offensive team so he gets more points and that's the flat out truth. If if hates content is on the Oilers. He's got the most points of or Toronto or Toronto had the most points of any rookie or any young defenseman in the league. So it's it's it's biased from people who don't know hockey and that was really pissing me off throughout the entire NAC broadcast. I know I know we're spoiled with the Fox Sports guys and the razor and Josh and Savvy, but it's so bad that they talked so long about a dump in and dead. Stupid announcer kept saying the shoot in and he said I thought he made a mistake the first time but he kept saying shoot in I was like, it's not a shooting call it a dump in it's what it's called. He's not trying to shoot the puck and just little things like that. They don't know what they're talking about. All these guys are ridiculous. I know it's NBC and stuff, but I just wish they would go off to different network. I hate it. We see so much. Well, maybe not next year. But the year after when the US TV deal is up. Maybe we'll get ESPN wage. I would I would much prefer that I know a lot of people talk about how how they hate ESPN2 cuz they messed up a bunch of hockey stats and stuff. But if they have hockey on there, they may pay more attention to it on their broadcasts are going to pay more attention to it. So And they are they have better announcers all around NBC announcers are terrible. They got freaking guy who does the Olympics on there like go, Tate on some ski jumping. I don't know how long now that would be an interesting podcast to do. So maybe during the off-season. Well, the the very short off-season we will have maybe that would be something good to talk about will keep them up. All right, we went on a random tangent there for a little while, but that's fun. All right. How about the play of Dobby today? He was amazing. I love doggy. I know he made so many huge stops and it was just finding Lanes through traffic to make stops making himself as big as possible holding on. So the biggest thing for me is he was holding on to so many more rebounds that were used to so that's dhabi's major downfall of the goaltender and she gives up a lot of rebounds especially compared to Ben Bishop who just swallows everything he gets up so small. Yeah, he gives them a lot more rebounds, but he was making so many great stops day and holding on to pugs. It was really it was one of his best games in my opinion. I I know I've seen that kind of weirdly like he's had shut outs and stuff throughout the season, but just the way he played this game. He looked so confident. He looked like he was grabbing every puppy could page wasn't he didn't make any scramble e amazing saves. He just did everything right? He just did the right thing on every save and never gave them a never gave them a second chance. So I love the way he played today. I thought he played perfectly. I'm really scared about. You know, obviously we want to see him do well because he's on the storage and we want him to win but it almost seems like the better. He does the more his price range is going up. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean with the pandemic coming up or the pandemic coming up with the flat cap coming up because of the pandemic and I think right now we're at 62,000 which is great because we're going to need that space to sign some people I mean syriana. Yeah and yeah Gary on up and down especially those two in the play-offs have proven their Worth to the stars and I don't think they're going to get giant 8 year contracts, but they will get a bridge contract before they're they're so that's a big contract of what you would expect. So we're going to have to save some room and unfortunately that may mean we lose Dhabi. I hope not maybe he comes for a to contract and says, hey, you know, what if wage I come back and we'll sign for cheap then maybe we get a you know, maybe get another shot at the yeah Stanley Cup. She seems like you really likes Dallas but Honestly, he's worth so much more than we can pay him. I mean if if you go and make four million dollars somewhere else as a backup goaltender instead of 2.5 like he is with the Stars. That's really neat-o. If he goes somewhere else, he's a starter he can go to Vancouver and be a starter he can go to a lot of places to be a starter in my opinion. Well, see that's the only downfall for him though is his age and he only started half of the games. So wherever he goes, he can't be the guy only he would have to have if you asked him he tell you he's the guy he wants to be the guy. He said he can do it. well what I'm trying to think of a team that I don't know they say the devil's so the the devil's don't really have I mean they have Mackenzie Blackwood who is there, you know goaltender of the future. He's not as good as quarterback, but he's still pretty solid. He's not bad. He's just has a bad team in front of him. So his stats look kind of bad, but he would need to go to a team like that with somebody who has a already good goaltender to be the backup or maybe be the one a one B, you know, I think we started off with this whole bin Bishop his the starter dhabi's the back up but it's been you know, it didn't matter which goaltender has been in net for the Stars this year. It has been great. I think I think it is still that way. I think their Bishops still is obviously the starter. I think if you asked. You would say that too long, but you're right W has been the best backup goaltender in the NHL by far and this year did like hundred percent that wheel is Ben Bishop and we are playing Just buy in my opinion. I think that Bishop could still more games than hobby could in my opinion. I think he's overall a better goalie and easier to be more consistent when you're freaking huge but God. I wish I could just take a couple of his inches of his set off of his stature and put it on me and you actually get 2 5 8459. I don't know. Yeah, but but he's been great strides you missed a beat with him. So he's just an amazing goalie. I hope these days I don't think he will but I hope he goes to where he gets a starter job and he makes a big playoff push any carries a team, you know, as if awesome as a fan, it's almost kind of like Like word like parents watching this, you know this kid grow up in front of our eyes and we know we know he's fixing to leave the nest and we're just happy to see him and his last her raw and and playing so well, maybe this leads to the cup, who knows. I think it definitely could Stars a good right now. Yep. All right. So yeah. We talked about Dhabi we talked about the first line tawbi and then something that I've really been pushing these this last week and half and I said I consistently with the flame that was we have to stay out of the box cuz at the time the Flames had the best power-play percentage and now going into the series Colorado had the best was like 30. Something you carry from it. And you know, what we did that today we got we were extremely disciplined. We had one penalty the entire game. Yeah, if if we can play dead. We have proven to everybody in the NHL that we can beat any team five-on-five. I believe that if we get ourselves in trouble and we start having to kill off penalties and stuff like that. That's when we start hurting ourselves and we have our brunch Calgary implosion. So I got a credit that starts tonight. That was absolutely fantastic that had to have been something they talked about in on Friday. Yep. It didn't even look like there was a great plays that could have been called penalties too. And the only one we did have was a pretty ticky-tacky one. There was actually there was another penalty remember we had the the two penalties went on Garry enough and went on with Graves at the same time when we went for around 4. That's when Colorado score that's what I was thinking about that. We were talking about the green room. But it there wasn't even very many plays that it looked like Dallas should have been penalized on so they were definitely playing very disciplined. I even think Colorado fans would tell you that that they didn't really see much that Dallas could have been called for so definitely great. We don't want to give birth And any more space than he already had so yeah. Yeah. Well, hold up. We'll get there. We'll get there. Yeah Special Teams phone numbers and kills us whether we're on the power play and we're giving up shorthanded goals or its foreign for like it was today, you know, maybe the best thing is is like we just need a name to put a new role in the n h o r o book that says teams can decline a power plate and I think that would work in the Stars favor for this playoffs for some reason. It's just been that way. Yeah, stay out of the box. Hopefully we'll do that in game to keep doing it. And then the the last thing good thing we want to mention today. There are multiple other choice, but we played a full 60 Minutes tonight. Yes, that was that was great. We definitely came out the first. The first. We played awesome. That was a great first. For the stars all around wage. Even their goal was just McKinnon doing weekend things. Not much you can do about it and we're going to get to what we can do it about it and next I assume but it was just a great overall. All I was thinking about my head during intermission was please keep playing like this keep please keep playing like this and I did and the 3rd. You see the 3rd. Were ending the game Zone. We're not ending the game in ours are like we were against Vegas. We're keeping the four check on them. We're pressuring them and making them make a play and if they can't do it, then we're going to stay in their Zone and we're going to keep having chances and log. Leads to our game-sealing goal by by rope a so it's definitely good to see them keeping the pressure on even when even when the even when we're young we have a lead and I think I think that's partially because we have more respect for the team and more respect for the game that we're playing. So I think earlier on yeah cuz we know what Colorado can do home and we know the consequences of this game choose early on in in those round robin games against Vegas and stuff. Like those weren't really postseason games. They're kind of like they're kind of like season games plus like four point games, but not everyone knows the stakes of the situation and everyone knows what Colorado can do and they can score in a hurry and they can look terrible and mechanic and score himself. So everyone respects it understands it and they keep the pressure on them. Well, let me get to the whole game and you know, we have to take advantage of this first game and it almost seemed like the stars realized that Colorado was not all there tonight and then they put their game into another level and that's great because we don't know what Colorado is going to do the rest of the series. We know that they're going to come back huge in game two years. I'm expecting it obviously going to have to stand on his head. He's in I know he'll he gave up three goals today, which seems like a lot But he made like you said he didn't make that spectacular save like he did and overtime against Calvert Calgary, but he was there and he played off early and he said the shots when he needed to so definitely the most consistent game. He's played in a while. Yes, I agree. So, all right. So last thing we talk about is some bad things that happened in the game and you know, the only one that we could come up with was what Christian We've got to hit McKinnon. I hate the kid it every time he touches the puck. He should have Alexei x button his face and then he needs to be back on the ice for a while. I can just imagine that in my head. I just imagine like Jamie oleksiak like bending over and sticking his butt up in the air and then just became two runs in like skating ring back into kind of like the butt fumble from Mark Sanchez and the New York Jets something like that. That would be fantastic. I want McKinnon to be flipping over again Mark. I want Jamie Benn to sit on McCain in like you did the blues guy. I want him to feel pain every time he touches the puck and we didn't do that this game mechanic kind of went untouched that that can't happen again. We need we need Corey Perry agitators. We need the me the checking line especially so we put the checking line out there against the MacKinnon line a decent amount of times tonight and the MacKinnon line was skating circles around wage. Be honest, this is one of the worst defensive defensive games. I've seen from the FCC line in a while, which was really surprising but they have something figured out against them. We need to find a way for those guys to get more physical and two when they see the puck against the board. They need to just immediately go for that all out to get it out of the Zone cuz it's off it's tough to finding that line. They have so much offensive awareness and we can always knows amazing thing to do to fool defense has so we've got to figure out how to I get the puck out of that guy's hands and when we can't make him pay for touching it You know, that's interesting that you said that looking at the stats, you know who had the worst plus-minus and the game today no S L and L. That's very strange, isn't it? Well, he's like I said about plus minus plus minus doesn't really a defenseman stat, right? So especially defensive defenseman. The offensive defenseman is get out there when team score because you always want him out there against the better guys, so I don't think that's really telling of anything. Now he heals yeah in your you know, that's a good point because he did play a team-high twenty five minutes tonight as well. So there's a reason he's playing really good that high of a minutes and has the lowest plus minus as long as that's the guy we want out there against the good players. Okay, so we came up with a a little sentence before we started this and I'm just kind of kept going and just kept adding to this instance. Oh you wrote that down. Oh, yeah. I told you I told you ever done I have a right here. So I told you I was going to mention this. So, okay. So first we started with McKenna needs to die off and then we added in a fiery hole with the flames and the blues full of snakes and alligators. If you can add something else to that let us know because I'm adding to it until you do it every game will continue adding to the sentence until we beat vacated. Badly is dark Astic remarks promise comments down and is your comments section. I think that it's kind of inspection station. Well, yeah YouTube you already go to yeah, that'll incentivize you should subscribe to our YouTube channel KO subscribe to start casting remarks on YouTube comments on this video the next word in the sentence and we'll keep adding to it and we'll post it off on Twitter the night of the game and we'll start a hashtag for it longest hashtag and and hockey. Yep. So well, okay. So before we sign off off who if that FCC line, do we just give them one more shot in a game too, since it didn't hurt us and game one or would you put a different line on them for a game one? I think definitely walk you give them another shot. Sorry. I think they're quick enough to to go and get after them. But if not, you've got to get some speed out there and I know hinting Ariana if aren't the best defensive birth. If if you just want to play man on man and just make him skate with them that that even be better than what I saw today cuz it looked like they were they were just struggling they couldn't keep up with them so long, you know, I feel like if she's going to be able to match their speed after they've seen it a couple more times but it's going to be tough. Yeah, I originally thought putting the scoring line been a gradual off out there against that line, but you know what, I mean, it could help us and they could score more goals and enforce that Top Line to play in the office defensive Zone, but if not, they need to be playing against lines that can't that can't are as good players as our for top-line. Yeah and running regular can kind of get exposed on divorce sometimes so he's yeah probably one of the worst forwards we have a defense. So I guess if the FCC line doesn't work, then you put out the pavelski line pavelski type of birth. Ski right now pavelski was either to the boss key won't be able to keep up with him. But Gary enough. Can I think keep up with him? And then again and Mark probably is a little slower than Ariana, but he can definitely keep up with him. So All right anything else or we can just hit him McKinnon make him hurt. That's what I want to see the game. Yeah life Corey Perry. What else did the what what the heck else do we sign you forged? We're not signing in to score power-play goals. Oh, yeah. It's not like you can do in the face quit game score power-play goals and go punch back in the face. We're not going back to the eighties anymore Chris that that there's no such thing as enforcers but more they're pretty much gone other than McKinnon. We can play Twenty twenty-five thousand but only with McKinnon just bam. Just bam bam, bam. Yeah. All right. All right guys, thank you all for listening in tonight. And this has been star cast of remarks. I'm Brian Chris. Thanks for joining us tonight. And you can follow us on Twitter Twitter Twitter. Yeah, that's literally the first one. Yeah, the bird one. I almost said that tweet tweet one at Star casting art and you can also follow us on Facebook as off on our Facebook page and our YouTube channel, which is titled Starcaster from artists and you can also find us wherever you get your broadcast Stars win tonight with a final score of 5 2 3. It's a great game if we continue to play like this we win series. Oh, I forgot. I got to give a quick shout-out to Mr. Davids at tetryon of off one of the staff writers from the nhl.com. He is the only person out of the entire NHL, that had the Dallas Stars winning this series h l.com is morons. They all still off. The only one of them take Dallas to be Calgary to so they're all just stupid moronic Dumbo's. Yeah unique Rhapsody off make up for Giants tonight. Have a good night. Coconuts.

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Lightning Strike Twice, NHL Bubble Recap

ESPN On Ice with Wyshynski and Kaplan Show

55:13 min | 5 months ago

Lightning Strike Twice, NHL Bubble Recap

"Hey Emily. Hey Greg in a typical Stanley Cup championship season. You are shuffling out onto the ice in whatever fashionable footwear you're wearing. And you were talking to the players as they celebrate with their families and hoot and Holler and try to get out of there as quickly as possible to go back to the locker room and sprayed champagne. Contrast that. With what you saw in Edmonton in the bubble? When the Tampa Bay lightning when the cup in game six over Dallas. Greg, could we compare apples and oranges? Look I. Think it was super special when Tampa Bay clench day and you see all the guys you know flail their equipment into the air and all you know gathered behind the net and that was really cool. But typically like you said, we're on the ice we get to see these moments right like I remember last year Pat Maroon, picking up his son Anthony and it was this big storyline going into the year. This is the first year they live together and Saint Louis and the. Emotion that they had and lay look him on the ice in watching her interact with coal to break Oh and the other guys and all around you like incredible stories and emotions are happening and this time I'm sitting you know up in the three hundred level section zoom on my phone forgot my binoculars in the US and I'm like look there's every player getting out his iphone and face timing somebody. So it was just a little bit different of an experience socially distant Stanley Cup indeed. I will say this as everybody knows I do have my certain predilections when it comes to the traditions and hockey and what I don't like. Emily just sit on. The. Handshake right. The handshake line as everybody knows but here's the thing. One of the things I do love and you hit on it and I I feel like it's an underrated aspect of a cup championship. Is that moment where everybody just hurls their equipment into the air and gloves lying and I, it's just like a yard sale and the ice afterwards like that moment where the clock hit Patrick Horn quests driveway. Wow that's deep gut. About that later too I. Just loved that it's one of my favorite things in hockey and then everybody just mobs the goalie and it just becomes a chaotic beautiful celebration and then of course, on the side of the ice, the crippling the depression of having lost in the championship game, which we'll talk about the Dallas Stars in. All right coming up. On this edition of ESPN, it's just me an emily, just the two buddies talking about this Cup final and what comes next. All the departments will be in place but we felt like it'd be good to just kind of. Pop the bubble as it were together. And just chat with you. So there you go. That's what it is on this edition of ESPN and isolate start the show proper showy. To, your ear buds a podcast about hockey featuring things to do with hockey from your friends at ESPN ESPN on ice with Shitski and Kaplan. It's been ice the podcast. FOR ESPN talks about hockey although sometimes as VP talks about hockey, which we'll talk about an event. I'm Greg Luzinski your NHL Writer. And then lay. Kaplan. National NHL Reporter. Vp with our boy John. Cooper. After the Stanley Cup victory the lightning last night. Is a really good good interview. Good time get energy. Enjoy the best thing about it. He's wearing this. Gosh Darn. A UVA basketball hat and Scott van pelt has daffy to ask about it obviously and John Cooper tells the story of him buying that hat shortly after they get swept by the Columbus blue jackets because he needed something to hold onto on and he could hold onto the story of them losing as a sixteen seed than going on and winning the championship next year and he told a great story to of like Nikita Kucherov. Afterwards being let go. and. He's it here the whole time. It's obviously it's a big march madness then. It also couture what's one of the reasons they. Curbs stop the blue jackets because he's the MVP and he got suspended for a game but that's not. While we're on the couture off-topic, it took two months, but we finally got an incredibly likeable and personable Kucherov on zoom call. The most amazing thing about zoom is that it takes long time and the little inside secret is that the Tampa Bay lightning specifically take a long time to get them calls specifically specifically John Cooper but as in the celebration of a Stanley, Cup they're coming out like now forty minutes after the game and think about it they're sweating they're hungry. They have nothing in their body from playing this game and they've just been shrugging champagne and. They were wasted. When he came out and like poor Alex school artist sitting between him and Basil Left Ski, and just trying to be the adult in the room and translating questions until adults speak. But it Kucherov out there I think he was trying to do an American valley girl accent at some point like that's how we talk to the guys on the scenes and they all like fig Russian accents to him. It was incredible. And they just ended it whenever they could as soon as possible. That's hilarious and then coupon all the coaches to which was really nice moment on the. As well. Queen of transitions you you mentioned the Blue Jackets, I mean impossible not to talk about this lightning Stanley Cup within context I wrote about it last night in a piece about the lessons they learned for the last five years go back to two, thousand, fifteen they lose in the final of the Blackhawks. This was the first kind of taste of this for this group including coupes, troops, the famous triplets line, the players that he coached with the Syracuse crunch back in the NHL. Next season. They lose in a game seven and also a game six to the Pittsburgh Penguins in the conference final penguins going to win the Cup missed the playoffs because Stamkos gets hurt probably talk about that later too. Next Season Conference final again they lose game six, lose game seven to the Washington capitals failed score a goal in either of those games and then of course last season Arab I remember what happens last season where they get swept in the first round with the blue jackets so. I really think you look at this Cup emily and you say to yourself, what are they learn in the last five years and two of the lessons they learned I think really helped them in accomplishing this, which is to be efficient. and. Yeah. They had a five overtime game against blue jackets. But that's a five game series. They beat the Bruins in five games They kept it short and that's something the teams that went on to win the Cup of they played did pretty well. And the other thing is. Don't don't go to game seven don't believe the point don't don't allow those emotions and then anxiety to creep into your game even without the fans there even without the media in your face at all times, it's still going to be there take care of business when you have a chance to take care of business. So by by Islanders Game Six by by Dallas Stars Game Six don't Belabor the point get it done and if you WanNa talk about get don man the Efficiency in the lightning's defensive game last night against the Dallas Stars. We've seen it a couple of times as postseason with them but damn they were good for two periods last night against Dallas. Yeah so thinking that, Tampa it really felt like the team of destiny this year when you watched them play, it was just a total team game. There's no weak link there were rolling guys out. There is a lot to be taken from their victory I think there's a lot of teams around the league being like I want Tampa has but Dan was going to be hard long to get it like they had to, as you said, suffer for this and build this slowly. And from what happened to them last year I think what was most fascinating to me is seeing how? They were about their scars and they owned it on the fact that like I said John Cooper wore that hat brought it to the bubble like you went through the year where it was like everyone wild because every city they went through they were asked about what happened last year. So they had to answer it and every once in a while they'd be like new. We never talk about it at all. It's a new team, and then every once in a while, you get like a Kevin shattenkirk being like they're obsessed with it why it's all they can talk about and it's very clear that the enters probably more the latter. So for them to come together as a team. Overcome this is incredible and holy cow. Are we GONNA be talking about these three minutes Steven? Stamkos for the rest of our life because. I think I said this last podcast like take away the pandemic takeaway, the bubble. This is an incredible sports story. You're captain who has grinded it through for all those years Mrs all time comes back two minutes forty, seven seconds one shot one goal we never see him again it's incredible. It's absolutely incredible and then I thought it was also really nice touch last night when they went out to get the cup. Normally, the tradition is Gary Bettman hand to the captain. The captain did does the thing and they all took a class photo basically with the Stanley Cup last night and and and Bettman, and I thought that was appropriate not only in a sense that lake stamkos played three minutes in in the playoffs but also in the sense that it really was. Incredible team effort interesting to see if maybe this is a new tradition that starts where it's the team that kind of accepts the cup rather than just being the captain. Speaking get tradition. Got To admit I'm a little bummed. That's what we've talked about for months didn't happen last night booing of Gary back on the road broadcast. I don't know what that's about I mean. Maybe they just got cold feet at the end of the day, but they talked to pretty good in the months leading up to this that they were going to do it and that Gary was cool with it but I. Was Listening Really Hard and I didn't hear any booze really which was her. So I was at the arena and I was waiting for the booze and the only other in arena thing that I can share. That was like weird is. Being handed out and everyone celebrating and the ice, and then you see bill Daley like sitting alone in like first or second row with his cell phone out it's like zooming in and taking a photo like. Deputy commissioners just like the rest of us. Yeah it was. It was good man it was good celebration. Pat Maroon. Getting it on in the locker room with there's big old beard and cigars two cups back to back. And again, like I know that I've beaten this horse into a paste by now. The hell hell Jillian breeze not GM of the year I'm sorry I. The FIS logic. That this guy goes out and gets Pat Maroon Kevin Shattenkirk Blake. Coleman partly good dro. In the in the last throes of this series and last three games of the series like what do you see you see shattenkirk? An overtime game winner on a screen by Maroon last night, you saw Maroon steal the puck leading to Blake Coleman's goal which was to me the definitive goal the game because it gave them a two-goal lead with the way they were playing they weren't gonNA give it up. That dude. Like you said, it's going to be very hard for anybody to replicate with lightning did and then one of the reasons is is that no one has the. To trade two first round picks at the deadline for. Players, which is what he did. Yeah. I say. Ever since Chrissy told me that Berkeley rose a plan that was pressing him and so I kept closer and he was the player I couldn't keep my eyes off of. Last game like he was all over the place he takes faceoffs. He's been incredible I-. Coleman's been getting a little bit more love and to the pair of them like Dros been just as good and the get them both next year. But yeah, no I think the gym of the year honestly should be awarded in the play offs I do. We should take into account those type of things and I think Julien Brisebois is. Honestly the guy and. God. It's such. A good team couldn't get into the first lines production. Seriously there's a point during the series versus watching him mesmerized by them like they're the first team that got puck steep and made it interesting for me. Deep. But the did but it was like von and magnetic and I knew that they would collect them. They were real fun team and and it's and it's funny. You should say that because like I feel. We we've seen our share of anti hockey in this bubble of from certain teams. The stars were guilty of some of it not necessarily taught. Dallas all the time. Watching their first few series I mean that's that was kind of fire wagon a little bit, and then they kind of get a little bit more conservative as as the place went on. Is being the biggest. Perpetrator of that. The. Blue. Jackets did their share too. So it was good to see a team that. Can play a strong defensive game as we saw in game six but also is just hell of fun to watch. Before. We get to the celebration. Let's talk about the stars real quick. I saw some. Really sad people last night Jamie Ben's press conference if he's. Is He's just like he he he was asking questions on the second question. He didn't answer it. He just kind of sat there. And the first question he stopped answering it and then looked over at the PR staff and and they moved on to the next question on the second question he didn't even nick cage that there wasn't going to be an answer and they just went to the next thing third question he answered it for two senses then he stopped. And then, and then it was done. I mean I have never seen anyone. That's distraught. Over loss. But Klingberg talked about the band of brothers thing and and how much this hurts and Sagan talked about a beat up they were an literally having to stand in line. To get into the trainer's room to get treatment because so many guys were hurt. And could open I thought pretty much. Summed it up for them last night when he just said, I'm just like I don't feel anything like I'm kind of number the whole thing because of just how. How stunning solution that I'll. Lose having sacrificed so much for the last two months to do this, and then to kind of come up short, I really feel like. In the case of a lot of these guys and I'm sure there's guys in the stars that the feel like it was worth it because of just how close they came and what a ride it was but I really feel like a lot of these guys kind of probably rationalize the bubble by saying you know what not seeing your friends and family. Your dog your kids what have you for two and a half months, we'll be worth it. If we win. And then you don't. and. That's gotta be real hard to process if you're the Dallas Stars last night. The thing with the stars, I still can't get over how effective Corey Perry and Chope Belsky wars series. That's the one thing. That's the most surreal to me about this entire series and my hockey perspective we know that Joe Publicity. Still has like the best instincts and is the best temper of pox but holy cow we're both of them like they wouldn't have made it this far. They wouldn't have had a fighting chance against this team if we're not for those two guys look at this team is one that if they didn't make it to this round even if they. Had Lost in the Western Conference finals I wonder would Jim Nill back with this core have been back tried to shake it up because they've been trying to do the same damn thing for a couple of years in a row now, and it hasn't worked and like and one end. It's amazing. You're like all that we've been through this core as many coaches as we cycle through as many styles as we've asked, Tyler Sagan and Jamie Ben to play like we can make it work, and then it was sad being like well, they've made it all the way this far like are they gonna be able to do it again there's plenty of exciting things about this team. Is In who you know I I think just ran out of steam by the Stanley Cup final but obviously had an incredible postseason You know you've got the hints that Gary on odds of the world's you know the guys that are going to grow up with, but it's just a fascinating team i. think it all came together for them in this tournament and their time to win was now and like out of any runner up in recent history I can't say I feel very confident about the next year I don't it's. It's interesting. So their off-season looks like the first half they got some free agent. Business to do radic facts Ruben missed dearly. In the last part of that series, those penalties, they couldn't stop taking dude, one game one game they finally figured it out we let's just take penalty and stay out of the box and what are they do they take two of them the first period, give the lightning to wax and Yada, and of course, the lightning score on one of them to kind of change the trajectory game six. So they're their own worst enemy and at times in the series. So they got those two guys to sign along with them. Off Who really had an outstanding playoff? He's going is up next summer. They got one more year of him on his ELC but here Dall- here you're too big mystery free agents. One of them Anton Khudobin who obviously expect he'd like to come back. You know the camaraderie with the boys the whole thing, but there's going to be a few people out there they're going to like I would like to be in the Anton Khudobin business. Now this isn't just like a flash in the PAN playoff run guy this guy has got the stats to back it up for the last few seasons as far as being one of the best one goaltenders in this league and Get, sitting next season whenever it starts is going to be a mad dash of back to back games. The press schedules you're going to need to goalies if you're somebody using. I'd like to win. Colorado. Nearly a you know I'd like to the next year when a cup who can I get for that? All I know that dude that nearly carried Dallas Stanley Cup like there's going to be action around Cuban but the other free agent as you know, this is the real mystery. Rick bowness. Mystery is this. When you're in the bubble. And people are like so Jim Nill, what are you? What do you think about rip bonus when what's going to happen with him and Jim like Oh yeah I think for you obviously mixer into job and if rick wants to come back come back. And then we ask bonus and you're like Rick bowness what do you want to do and it for weeks? He's like I don't talk about it after it's. About it right now. Than like after they lose game six like Rick Bowness. What's going to happen whether if there's one thing I learned this bubble is that I still have a passion for this thing I'd like to keep doing. Okay that's cool. What does that contract quick. Sixty five years old in term coach, a certain amount of lightning in the bottle. A certain amount of owing a debt to the system that the previous coach put in, you can't deny that. Jim Montgomery had this team playing a certain way now bonus augmented it. In the pause no doubt about that. Did some really smart things got the defense more involved became a better offencive team. He deserves credit for that. But it's not like he reinvented the wheel. What do you? How do you approach the situation? If you're Dallas. With a with the caveat that maybe you're going to compensate a guy for something that he can't. Necessarily replicate again. I think the issue here is the issue. That faces where we're like, oh, just make it work at. It's not a typical time and the words we're going to keep hearing again, and again our internal salary cap, we know know the cap is flat at one point five. That's what you spend on players. Some team salary cap is lower than that internally, and it also is lower internally for business ops and coaching and hockey ops, and all the other folks that make the team run and do wonder about a team like the Dallas Stars where their owner is in the hospitality and hotel business. If we'RE GONNA, get into another situation like Berry trots where Rick bowness knows what worth I just took a team to the Stanley Cup. Final I deserve a contract and are they not willing to stomach it I don't know those answers. If I'm the stars you gotTa keep the guy that brought you to the Stanley Cup final you try to keep them for a two year deal if that's what's palatable to you because of his age experience whatever it might be he payment, you need to pay them. You try to give this these guys some consistency because as I alluded to for earlier, it's just unfair of how many coaches this course had to have But. We'll see. We'll see. All. Right. Before we move on to some of your questions I want to ask. Our reporter on site. The person inside the bubble. What she saw. Last night. What is so once the cameras are off. One Stock Emmerick has has spoken his last bit of poetry and by the way my favorite to moments from Doc Emrick last night on NBC during the broadcast without question I was the time when he was talking about how good cure off point are and related to how good Wayne Gretzky is in in the sense that everything is inherent in like they just are good players and I think Emmerick Emmerick slide was I wonder what it's like when you're good at all of that. Or something along those lines just a very folksy sort of common man looking at a superhero type deal and the other one was Eddie Olczyk we're talking about the preakness and I think somehow the question came up of whether or not he was running in the preakness and at one point doc said, are you going to paint your hooves? Because, apparently show horse competitions you paint your hooves is the thing that. Indra. saggio. T. Al.. I had no idea. Well to answer your question of what happened. What happened and the great city of Edmonton last night look they do the whole celebration there on the ice it takes them forever. Jake. Zoom calls as I mentioned. CELEBRATING AND FACE TIMING AND DRINKING And they don't know where to go the team stayed in the locker room. I'm pretty sure it was like twelve or one. They were still at the arena and I was told that the guy is just like didn't really WANNA go back to the hotel because they knew the stars were there and it was like kind of awkward to gloat and celebrate, and the same vicinity is the people you just crushed at the same time they were given very explicit instructions you're staying in the bubble. Tonight you're plainly is at nine am like you get on that plane and do whatever. But like you are still in the bubble tonight. So I do think they eventually brought the cup back to the bubble I saw them posting over the prison yard which just felt so poetic and beautiful So Twenty Twenty Stanley Cup playoffs about that. And Yeah, as we're recording this, they're on their back to Florida whereas we saw images. Social distancing may not be practiced going forward not at all by the way. In Pull the curtain. Pretty much nothing. The NHL hated for the prison yard nickname getting out from the bubble and that becoming lake a common thing courtesy of our story, not not a fan but like listen the players that it. As I. Talked to somebody in town I think it was a bartender and she's just like what plants there. You spruce it up. Go to plants there. You wouldn't all prison yard. That's all you need. Some lawn furniture just spruce it up a little bit. It's all we're saying. Aiding to say about the night that was a celebration, the lightning, the whole thing who you happiest foreign the lightning right now besides coop. Any of those guys that had been in for honestly I'm happy for Zach what goes in and that was a cool storyline. Guy. Exactly, picture and they actually texted it. It's funny look like behind the scenes but Luke Shannon. This photo to Chris Johnston was like put this on twitter. Stammer wants to put it out, but it was him Stamkos in Begosian and they're the one three, five tex-mex draft and you know obviously stammers career on the like a little bit of a different trajectory than she shannon Bogosian were almost both out of the league and just to see them and that that was a cool thing anyway I'm just happy for them in general and Leslie today but Edmonton is put on a damn good event. You know we joked about the fly fishing in the prison yard, but the folks here So hospitable anywhere when everyone is wanted to know how I liked, Edmonton. How are we treating you? Great. and Rogers Center like honestly like I. Felt Safe. The entire time felt like they were following the protocols just the adherence even up the players and not to go to an empty bar last night and taking the cop even though it was tempting like criticized everyone. That's awesome. I gotta say for me Headman. Awesome, playoff. And here's a here's the thing that kind of blows your mind when you think about it like we think of the lightning as team. Jon Cooper of Eisman, and then Julian Breeze Blah of Jeff vinik owning the team by the way deal New Jersey Zone. Jeff Finnick. Didn't add exciting. It started with. Like. And bad ownership groups of all time with Oren coolest Lynn Berry. And when Berry are good for rose the coach and and Brian Lawton was GM they drafted stamkos one is not a shock. It was the obvious choice. And they dry and then they drafted headman. And then they drafted headman again at the time probably. A pretty obvious. Choice a lot. But not not a slam dunk necessarily. And those guys. Crossed over from that one ownership group all the way through to last night. And for headman man like. You look around this league and see how many of that guys peers have won cups. How many great defenseman have won cups and I know that we talk about like how winning a championship shouldn't necessarily define a player. But we're kidding ourselves if we don't admit that winning a championship doesn't. Bolster. Players Legacy. Like if over didn't win and he's at the hall of fame, we're still talking about how he didn't win if headman to win and he's at the hall of fame which he will be. We're GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT The Times they didn't win. So the finally win, it just muzzles that entire conversation and for a guy that's as good as headman who's going to go down as you know potentially the best defense minister generation, it's hard to say he's not going to be and and you have people right now saying is this guy even like the best player in hockey. It's just great to see. I. Always liked that guy. To get journalistically whatever. But like he's been on this podcast, a bunch of times and like we've talked to him a bunch of times just always really nice dude to talk to you and and that goes back to when he was a rookie. And he was talking about like learning to fly planes. So I was very, very happy to see that guy win. You know like we talked about before like you don't always just be rooting for people but in headlines case I kind of was happy to see that hoist the cup. All right. Let's get to some reader mail. Here's the first question. Definitely applies to what we were just talking about. Ema toaster. Which I guess is a toaster that frets about how dark told the bread. Gets. About, say how dark the toast gets, but it's bread before it's toast emily this. Would love some insight on how you both thought. The conn smythe voting went seems like Vesey was unsung hero. What are the chances? The lightning can repeat Yadda Yadda Yadda but let's focus on the consummate year to vote. who do you have on top of your ballot? And Brandon Point I struggled man I. I honestly think to his point, there was four legitimate candidates this year you could have gotten point you cut gone had men you could've Gone Kucherov it could've gone back. Let's get and made a case for any for them I think in my mind. I did leave. Off. He was my fourth just because sometimes you just default to the goaltender and that's his job. It is still remarkable in this tournament where. Cool tending depth was more important than ever at this man played every single game to a win. Like. It's an a I feel terrible even off but unlike couture up and point with aided offensively was just insane. They took over games they took over series they were so dominant and then Hedman was just putting up not only the ten goals the most since or most ever besides leach and Coffee Amongst defencemen in a playoff run but just putting a monster minutes and being the guy on. Defense. A could've put him one and put him three. You know. It was just a really hard toss up. Yeah for sure. You. Know we talked we slacked the other day about the concept and I was team headman big time. In fact one might say picked victor had been to win the concert before the plow started. But could say that I gotTa tell you like the way that point played in gain in their game four win four. Yes. Tying the game on almost up on his own. And then scoring the first goal in game six, which obviously was going to be like the tone center for either team. It was such a critical goal. And also scored on the power play where like Dallas clearly felt like they clawed back a little bit. You know in Game Five. Was So critical I think if I had a vote I would I would appoint over last night as my conscience Guy I. Think I think in this series. To go along with all the other heroics throughout the playoffs. But in this series in particular I, felt like you had the bigger impact and headman did I think you could have made the case that he probably should have won I don't like I said either day like I don't think it's going to be a crosby. Kessel? We're talking about. Stealing, breeding points concert whatever. But I do think it's going to be one of the things we look back and say. Maybe, I should go the other guy, the navy. This was a headman for two and a half rounds point for two and a half rounds, and maybe point that at the most important point of the playoffs and should have gotten put over kind of situation. But like you said, for good choices. Johan Eriksson this is, can we go keeping on the lightning? You think teams will be more willing to give their first round picks for depth players the deadline seeing how much Tampa benefited from it. Let me say. I I think it really depends on where the Pixar is like it if you're the lightning in you are you know? Going to pick thirtieth or whatever you know it's behooves you to maybe get aggressive and do that. But I also think it's a situation of. Look, there's always going to be teams that try to do this and get burned and they get ridiculed for years because that pick ends up being guy plays five hundred games. and. Then they're going to be teams that get praised for it and I think in the case of Julie Julien Brisebois. To have the confidence to do it but also the have the complete understanding of your roster that to know exactly what you need. You look at what happened last year and you said yourself okay. If I'm in that situation. Again I don't have Blake Coleman to score a goal and a critical spa I don't have partly dro- on the same line to create you know the best checking line in the playoffs like to have that sort of vision I think is isn't something that every GM has. Now there's a reason why Julian while was head hunted by. Hundreds of hundreds. One hundred teams. Dozens of teams about becoming their Montreal was was craving for the sky for years because he's really good and he learnt at the hand of another really good GMC. visor man who learn another had A. Really good GM, Holland. and. Like I I just I think it's hard to rep, like you said earlier, it's hard to replicate with Tampa, Bay did because of the situation that they were in because. GM's just aren't as good as trillion bruce while just aren't like he's got a knack for this. I don't know if you noticed they just wanted to cup last night. He has a knack for it and I think my big takeaway is it's not just getting the best available Guy Right available guy and like when we were talking about who is available at last year's traded line who's talking maybe people talking about blake coma both who's talking about Barklay good row is the missing championship team but he saw that because he knew his team and that is great and also draft damn well like they're just in good drafting team. Tony Schmidt wants to know how many traits will we see in this short window and where do you guys like Dumbo Domi imposs-. We line a end up. I think we're GONNA. See a lot of trades clearly like emily pointed out before there's internal budgets that are happening, they're going to necessitate these trades. Bill Garin seems as much as he says, he doesn't want to seems very desirous to flip. Matt done before a center. That's pretty obvious. Exciting Data Center for Matt Damon This economy in this economy I don't know and Conley depends on who's available but I say this maybe it's just because I cannot believe that they would deal away somebody who scores that many goals. even if they have other needs. I don't believe the Patrick Line trade stuff I. Just don't I just cannot fathom the idea that especially if it's like one of these deals like that's being put out there like well, we should trade. Patrick Line for a center. Okay. WHO's passing two? Because just traded the guy these going to be passing two. That's the whole point of getting them is to play on your second line with Patrick Light. That's why you get a center. I do you believe in the stuff? I do I think where there's smoke, there's fire I. Think he's a guy that so many teams would love to have and maybe just needs a change of scenery because it's always kind of been a thing in Winnipeg where just whatever reason there's just always thing about him I think he goes to the Metro Division. And just totally restarts his career. Interesting. All right finally Aaron. halverson rates in. Obviously. We need foolishly early two, thousand and Twenty One cup prediction you guys. All right I'll go ahead. Make one. Because honestly. Were it not for injuries. There's A. The Colorado. Colorado. I know lying again. Let me thank. You Colorado to we pick look like a hundred of US picked Tampa with a couple who cares. You could say, Colorado. If that's the answer. Good answer it's a good answer. I mean they got in the conversation too but they gotta get through Colorado to get there in Colorado is going to be so good beer. Part of me is like 'em don't sleep on the flyers. and. Don't seem on the islanders. Eastern like good merch output I'll put up with the the the caveat of the law diminishing lanes in your returns on the flyers. I will say this, they were a team that was playing semi anti hockey in tournament they they had some anti hockey moments. All. Right. Let's get to some winners and losers of the bubble. This is a story that's going to go up soon on ESPN DOT COM, check out our full list of them but just a taste right now, I figure two winners. One loser let's be all as negative as we usually are being from Jersey. GimMe. One winner of the bubble emily. Safety. As he saw our story if the goal of this thing award Stanley Cup and get everybody home Cova free they did it Guy said they felt a little to secure. There was clear absence security everywhere they have the daily nasal swabs obviously kept it up the headcount in the bubble smalls possible but. If anyone had a concern about health and safety entering the bubble is one player. Told US an employer confidential that one away quickly? The was a winner. My first winter. Steve Mayor. He's been on the show for you know the dude, he's the dude who used to put together. The winter classic and what that looked like his responsibilities in this bubble stuff are legion I mean not only what it looked like on television not only would it looked like in Santa, lake inside the arena but also the restaurants and the hotels, and all of the other accoutrements that you saw if a player was enjoying himself in the bubble is probably because it's something that mayor put in there for the player do enjoy. A tremendous undertaking and a really talented guy who has always done really good work for the League But he he and his team deserve an enormous amount of credit for making this thing not only work efficiently but also work as aesthetically pleasing as it did I mean you watch I've said it before you watch games on television and you compare it to what you see in the NFL especially compared the NBA which I just don't understand why people put that thing over as being a product when it just looks as Janke and American gladiators set as it does baseball all these other Sports Uso American gladiator. Steve Married did an incredible job making hockey look the best and I think. I gave them all the credit in the world series. He's one of my winners. WHO's your winner? The backup goalie. Enter this tournament with like half of the teams being who's GonNa Start Net. By the second round there were six guys who were not the number one during the regular season being the de facto number one in this tournament I. Think it has changed the landscape of the way teams are constructed. I think every team. Now you saw it with what Montreal, the to go get Jake Allen knows they need to guys especially this year with a condense schedule coming up probably lots of back to back to regionalize or who knows what's going to come. So these backup goalies is led by probably the face of the movement in two thousand twenty. Anton. KHUDOBIN Having, Selah Tournament. Mother winner are the fans I think absence makes the heart grow fonder I I sometimes What the fans bring the table in the play offs is sort of just literal background noise. But I really felt the loss of having a full crowd, watching these games and bringing that specific energy to the playoffs and having those moments of spontaneity were in the third period all of a sudden you hear the crowd rise up and be like we're GONNA will our team to do something that was really missing the players talked about at the coach has talked about it the dynamic of not having crowd. They're certainly changed the complexion of the playoffs in some cases for the better if you're the lightning I really believe. I pointed this out my story that playing in a vacuum was the best thing that can happen to that team based on the anxiety they felt in previous playoff runs but not having the the fans involved and not having. Tailgate parties and watch parties and the whole thing. I mean, it just was such a bummer I mean we all know why it had to happen but it was still such a bummer Gimme your one one of your losers, not the loser at one of your losers for the the bubble. Fun and Amenities. The fly fishing, the outdoor shopping malls, the golf excursions, all the comforts of bubble life that were promised to players and ripped out in front of their eyes once they arrive. So that was a loser. Loser for me. I hate to say it and it's weird to say it because Tampa just won the cup but nontraditional markets. The winter classic. Did Not. Draw. The Stanley Cup final much to my chagrin did not draw now it's not necessarily the team's fault. It's our fault because we are the ones who are constantly complaining about the same eight teams being shown over and over again, the original six plus Philly plus Pittsburgh plus Washington maybe through Vegas and they're now to occasionally. But we're always complaining about getting force fed the same. Franchises whether it's the regular season or the playoffs or whatever, and then the minute we get Tampa versus Dallas a very competitive and very compelling Stanley Cup final nick granted. There's a lot going on not only you know other sports but also like, Hey, honey, let's go to a restaurant for the first time since March on a Saturday night like there's a lot else going. I completely understand that. But hockey fans didn't watch the final and at the end of the day, maybe the NHL looks at and says, this is a special situation and we don't take too much from it or they look at this and they look at the winter classic and they look at the all the other ratings from series that don't evolve the same eight teams and they say to themselves. All right. Maybe we shouldn't show Dallas. As much or show Tampa as much and that sucks. Was a for me. A bit of a of a bummer for the hockey media every week is the segment of the show which I believe is our favorite Phil Kessel hot dogs. Now, he does not love to eat hotdogs our weekly look at. Straight narratives. Immediately. Day. It's Phil, Kessel of hot dogs to segment each week we point out the mistakes, foibles, hyperbole of the media. My original choice for this was that New York Times column on the violence and Hawking founding. This morning. Did you'll get ahead of yourself? I was GONNA say. Sorry, sorry. Sorry. Thing. By, the way seventeen salaries because you're in Canada. Time thing was like had some good points in the sense that like the NHL should not necessarily put up videos that glamorize the physical sacrifice of players. At a time when tsn is running Lengthy news documentaries about the abuse of painkillers like read the room. The thing I didn't like about the article was the notion of quote the floodgates opening to violence in the playoffs because the guy who wrote the column saw one fight at the start of the playoffs you and I have watched. More hockey in the last two and a half months in probably we ever have. Did you think that this did you think that these play playoffs was exceptionally violent? I I didn't either like I just I. I know that there was a lot of major penalties. There was only three suspensions comp- and keep with twenty four teams and an extra to the playoffs and I think there was a nerdiness. I'm assuming it's I. Don't have my dictionary in front of me but. To a lot of the play where it didn't feel as nasty and. Bloody as it has in previous playoffs. So I didn't agree with the premise but no, like you said, this is what you came for. Damien. Cox, last night after the Tampa Bay lightning when the Stanley Cup. Not as difficult to win a cup when there's no road games, no travel still a difficult thing to win it. All Tampa gave lots of sweat and blood to make this happen. But let's not compare bubble hockey with the real thing. Barclay. Good Dro-. On Tuesday morning. A man waking up covered in champagne and cigar ash and wondering where his pants are. Takes. The time to respond the. Damien. Cox by saying you try going through we we went through not seeing our families for months living in a hotel for sixty days twenty five clad a chance no home advantage for either team but hey, say what you want. Mike Drought. Again. We can talk about this being different. There's no problem with that. I disagree with our frame peer Lebron. Who Says No asterisks here? Of course, there's an asterisk here. It's completely different than what's ever ever happened in the Stanley Cup final. Different. Doesn't mean easier. And different indefinitely mean harder. And I think Bartley. Joe. Makes a good case that it should mean harder and Damien Cox says no valley's talking about. As usual. Now. It's time for puck headlines. Dateline Buffalo. Bob Mackenzie. Throwing a grenade from his hammock Calling up and calling around to find out what is going on with Jack Michael Trade rumors. And getting a sense that no Jack Eichel does not want to leave buffalo quite yet. But teams are calling this was confirmed by. SABRES GM, Kevin Adams on the instigators on Tuesday. Saying, here's the thing people call and make phone calls and ask about players every day it's my job listen we have no intention and we're not looking to do anything with Jack would you would you make of this whole Jack Eichel Trade Rufa which by the way it was a fun couple of hours or everybody started putting out their trade for polls Jackal. But at the end of the day, it seems like he's not ready to leave quite yet. There is one of the seasons of homeland, which is a show that I stayed with through the end and the premise of it was when they go and talk to all these CIA officials, the DC say the most vulnerable time. In America, is the transition between one president to an ex president and I think the most vulnerable time for a franchise, the transition between one GM and the second GM Look if a new GM is coming in, you know what? He thinks his team you don't know what he values. Of course you have to do your due diligence and poke around and Jack Eichel the guy were like well f the Seema's in one and a bunch maybe they want which things up maybe we can go get them And I, Kevin Adams is testing how much patience he has with the roster that he inherited. And also what values a vehicle and I think? When all said and done, they're gonNa Value Eichel as the number one or that it's just hard to acquire elsewhere and you've got him under your roof. You gotTA keep, them. That said other teams got a call so I I love that Mackenzie came and broke down. We'd never see this of being like, Hey, here's how trade room where here's the breakdown? What's going on behind the scenes of Wyatt's rumor like that was what was cool to me. It was fun. By the way I checked out after season five when she was a contractor in Berlin. I'm I'm impressing made it that far? Rough Dateline. Tori crews rates about to move insider rear. Admiral from. glitz. That Tori crews rates could be moved by the time you hear this podcast and I, you know I obviously, it's going to have to happen If they're not gonNA, sign him to move him to get something for them. Just still kind of stunning that that Torey Krug. Didn't end up taking hometown discount I thought there was like a fifteen percent chance that he was going to acquiesce and maybe stay with the Bruins. And still think there could be but yeah, it it does appear. No. The thing with Tory is that yes. Well, I believe that too This is a kid who has telegraphed has intentions the entire time he has taken discounts. He's taken shorter teams deals before he is battling himself. He's an undrafted guy. Now is one time to make life changing money and he wants to get it because he deserves it and you know what? Good on you, Tori. Dateline. Ottawa. Bobby Ryan bought out by the Ottawa senators and you know it's funny. You were talking before about Corey Perry. And him being sort of liked the hired gun from the Dallas Stars flush with buyout money from the Anaheim ducks to get an in for a low cost and he makes a huge difference in the postseason. I think Bobby Ryan is the the bio for this period coming up like. If he's gotten his life in order. He can still be a very effective player and a motivated player especially when you consider, you know how well he played the last time Ottawa went on a playoff run versus how he played in the regular season I feel like maybe playing an Ottawa sucked the life out of and a little bit. So putting him in a new environment with new life. I think there's somebody that's going to be in the market for Bobby Ryan and get a lot out of them next year for very, very low investment. Okay and you talked about the last playoff run by the Ottawa senators twenty seventeen when they went to the Eastern Conference finals. Do you know how many players are still on that team? That'd be as big goose egg wouldn't. Zero Zero. How are you like? It's one day we need to look at this from a bird's eye view and say how the hell did. We allow this to happen a franchise totally deteriorate and become a laughingstock in front of very is all the best wishes to bobby and I think you're right. I think he's got a lot of hockey left to give. Incredible to see what he did this year being so candid about going. To Rehab and coming out of it. And it sucks that he's getting bought out. But I almost think it's the best thing that could happen to his hockey career because he'll go to functional team. So, picture this, it's a senator like a wrote Lego Syrian and there's a soreness back and it has Chris name on it because that's the. Mention goal against the senators that postseason and. Kill the franchise. Than Photoshop that now Dateline Free Agent Frenzy. GimMe one name that's going to be a UFA that you were super intrigued by right now. I want to know where Brandon hope it goes. Oh, very good choice choice. Thank you I. You know was like this little two week period of my life and it probably had on this podcast or of like Oh back to Washington like they don't trust Samsonov because he got an ATV accident like they'll make it work and now like. He's a new starting goaltender for the Buffalo Sabres. Senators since to say, I'm going to go with the chalk like I don't have a read on what's going to happen Taylor Hall I can't imagine he's going to stay with Arizona even though they're doing the full. Court press to keep him He's put out so much noise in the last year about trying to find a long-term deal if that's the case. Have to imagine a return to L. Berta. Is is in the cards, but if he's chasing a cup. I mean Boston and Colorado right there for you. So I'm super intrigued to see where Taylor Hall ends up either in the short-term or the long-term. To make one big move this. I'm whether the crew or hall or whatever. We've talked about this man I just WanNa see them become the Miami Heat for one year. Just everybody goes there. They try to make it work. They've got the CAP room this year. Let's go. By the way. One interesting thing I, heard from a an agent this week with regard to free agents keep it keep an eye on qualifying offers and how many there orange. Could. Be a lot more. Than we expect given the internal economic teams something to keep keep in mind. Finally, a big I have written here on the right on a big sloppy. Thanks to our listeners and readers. Oh Hey? Thanks. No. Seriously I. It's been A. A wild few months, not only the bubble life. And the bubble games, but predating that all the way back to when this thing shut down on March twelfth. We weren't really sure it was all going and you guys stuck with us not only listening to the podcast but also consuming our content and ESPN DOT com. 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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 232: Featuring Brian Burke & Rone

Spittin' Chiclets

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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 232: Featuring Brian Burke & Rone

"On the road way to get all rolled big music was my friend. Wait on the road going places that I've ever been that I may never see wait to get home again I silence everybody. Welcome to episode two hundred and thirty two of spitting chocolates present the by Pink Whitney the pink lemonade flavored vodka from our friends at New Amsterdam. Vodka what's up gangway comet. You a day late this episode because of the Winter Classic and travel schedule show. We really appreciate that you understand and that went on Dallas for a few days but it felt like a month how a lot of work lot of fun lot of play but see how the boys are feeling today we just get in last night g how you he doing buddy. I feel very thankful. That's that's what I'll say. Happy New Year boys but I feel very thankful for our listeners. The best listeners in the world they came out and supported us at the rustic. And then again at the Pink Whitney Pavilion. So I'll leave it to you guys. You guys are rockstars. She put on a hell of a show. And I'm just happy to be a part of this pod for another year G. You're rockstars style this week. Buddy I mean all all you doing things behind the scenes so we thank you as well. You were a big part of this week as well even if people might not see you as much so next Hami stick take always shift rag over there excited next up up. I'll seven the wit dog Ryan Whitney Houston used to that a little bit early. So you've probably found a little better than the rest of the crew. Yeah I feel great. I feel phenomenal. Actually right after the The little interviews. We did with Craig. Ludwig Pink Whitney Pavilion Show New Amsterdam. I jetted out of there. I listen guys. I got there like eight in the morning Saturday. And then what was that four nights and I had to get home. I mean the game looked awesome. I was kind of rattled. After Tha walking with Biz before and talking kind of the whole pre-game atmosphere but still i. It was time for him for the dog to head to head home guy. Sometimes you just gotTa go absolutely. I felt like I was coming from Vegas last night last. But not least the the Rockstar. The crew walking around with this guy man yesterday it was legit like fallen Rockstar Biz. Nasty Paul Bissonnette but me guys. I got time for everyone especially we are fans. Although there was a couple guys who stopped me outside the bathroom and I had to get back to my seat quick and I told him no for a picture and I felt really bad. That's why I actually didn't sleep last night. So that's the shit that keeps me up at night. I know what Ed here. So for everyone. Not just Biz. We finish the show. The rustic awesome time great time and then we went out. We went to the outside area and we were taking pictures meeting people Sign and bottles of pink or not bottles but flags everything everything and business line is a monster line. I'm talking two hundred deep. Everyone's coming up to me. One guy how come bruisers lawns longer than yours. To guy how come whom you live as long as business third guy said I said you WanNa know why because he talks every person for twenty seven. I respect the hell out of him for doing it. But that's not let me. I don't have that in my bag right now. So that's why can line is so long so stop asking me. People insult me about smoking weed and taking mushrooms. The reason that I do that is unable to just open up different layers to the brain like you said. Would I talked to everyone hopefully for at least five minutes but you mentioned the word Rockstar Rockstar. I felt like a Rockstar. When someone before the show said every time you drink your drink is half empty? Someone's going to bring you a new one. I fuck one of my Elton fucking John Up here so so it was a very cool experience so much love that we felt. It's definitely Something that we're going to keep doing the live shows and as far as people wondering about audio we feel like a live show is something for the people that show up that can experience although if the audio quality is good enough we will release some of the interviews and maybe ab even some portions of the show that we feel that we should be able to share on the podcast. But you guys agree that that those people showed up got something that no one else got experience. Yes yeah I mean that's part of you know they come to us and that's what they get for it not to mention some free swag as well and I think we should probably get into right away. The overall Paul Atmosphere in game against the Dallas Stars in Nashville predators. Very cool how they had it where they have the state fair yes. Texas State Fair does take place in the summertime. I believe they told me October. I think she said okay so so they had all these games in areas areas. Already set up so it made Atmosphere and people had other things to do other than just tailgate right. So I think moving forward you may see them use that you know that that style of thing moving forward so it was a great atmosphere tons of awesome people. The pig racist you guys want to get into those I I can get tons of stuff to talk about why I mean of course with gambling involved was even more excited that this was going on over the course of the game. They had three rounds of a pig. Races in the winters were advancing to the finals. And they made them into a into players names. They were getting very creative. We had ED's Oh down there tr. Assuming he was gambling on that somebody was done taking those action. No doubt about that. But it was really Rohamn Josie. It was cool though how they like they did incorporate all these elements of Texas into the arena into the game. I mean the coaches wearing the cowboy hats. The pig races the honor. Guy'd come out on horses. Even though the poor bug is is literally shit themselves when they let those fireworks off the Mutton Boston was just gave a real Texas flavor but busy right that that Texas Day fit. That was a great call having because it's is not open this time of year but they just opened up. We got there at nine thirty in the morning. Three three and a half hours before the game they had to be twenty thirty thousand people there already. That was new year's they a Lotta people all getting buckled the night before Tremendous show and I thought it was at Saint Patrick's Day party when we got in the stadium because there's so much green but you also is huge pockets. It's of yellow and I'll tell you like Dallas fans were great but we gotta shout out the predators fans. I overheard someone say that. Twenty thousand came from June Twenty Five Twenty five the game insane and I mean I thought it was a much more festive atmosphere. And this isn't a distance Chicago Notre Dame but it was a much more festive atmosphere. This yet and again. Chicago's had nineteen with the classics. The appeal may have worn off a bit for them. But I had an absolute blast. The people bound Emmy Win Northeast. ASTLES so we go down there it makes us nicer a little bit too and the people are so nice to us down. They're so awesome time. What else she's got poice? Pure pure McGuire deep throat and corn. Dogs I turned down. I mean it's kind of dirty. was those all still howdy of let them do that right. I mean you gotTa have producer like Yaw. If Brunelli didn't tell me a wig put that corn dog down before the camera gets you. There's GonNa be a million memes or maize. Whatever they're called abuse down a corn dog cutler called Mendez? Now Mac Mac. I don't know I always is a Gifford Jif for me momentum and you always get me on that one but if you're going to tell me if you're not gonNA tell Xiaomi wit put the corn dog down you're dead to me I mean Grenell e we would be in one. I mean that's my job. That's the producers job. Don't let them look like assholes the whole yeah they go. Yeah within. What's what's my my excuse? Because I don't let him save you. Yeah fucking ASD reads and all this bullshit anyway great atmosphere Bravo to the NHL. All You Dallas fans congrats on the comeback. I had Nashville would in that game four two and the reason. I said that they've been struggling. And I thought maybe that was the time they could turn their season around and get marching. But Holy Shit man gave up a two-goal lead and and I mean eight minutes. I think it took eight minutes to get those four for Dallas Greg. Let's that's a tough one there so hopefully they can get things going because their fan base deserves. Yeah it's nice to give out a w I must have got asked when we had the line after the pavilion. I must've asked twenty five times. Who was that day as I come to Dallas the bet the predators? It is but I was a little scared like you that they do to win their struggle lately and down hurting teams a dangerous teams but not so much yesterday and the reason we did get that Wanna mention the reason we did get there. So early was the debut of the pink. Whitney pavilion get interviewed by Craig. Ludwig and I had a blast playing against him. I mean he's a fucking monster off the muster. Thank all shit but I had a blast. It was actually fun boys to have the tables turned on us and not have to prepare for an interview and just kind of react. Naturally I had a blast on that and he was pretty funny he did a great job of driving the boss and in which. I'll let you chime in here and then go back to speaking of Susidies It was great because the the ability to just be able to answer a question as opposed to ask on is. I don't think people understand the difference. It's it's I could sit there and get interviewed forever but when you have to ask people questions you're you're trying to prepare their answering. And he did an awesome job. He had a bunch of research. He was Boston are balls as for the night. We all made our locks and think known even sniffed winning. He brought that up the gambling bad gambling night we had and he was just able to kind of bring out some funny stories and share some of his own so that was great and before we want from the game though the greatest walk of shame history hockey of all people the warm orm Corey Perry who people hate as much as Brad Marchand in terms of the dirty shit they do on. The ICE has to walk. What felt like ten minutes? The whole crowd boom he was fucking two-minute. How WHOA WHOA? What time of the game was that last night we minutes in minutes minutes and former? Mvp He's wanted all he's done it all and he's always played just dirty. That's all it's all you could say. And he gets kicked such well. It sucks for Ellis. I it's awful. I hope he's okay but Perry I mean get ready. Play that game and you last minute as just just wild. I've seen every may I've seen making my way downtown walking fast nasal curve to curb your enthusiasm he. He got that treatment as well on something interesting to look for. I would assume he's probably looking at you. Know four or five games. I would imagine based based on the fact that Ellis's now out with concussion as well in three games she should have been his return back to Anaheim so he's probably gonNA miss that one. I'm not sure whether they go back there again. I haven't looked at deep into itself More than likely Corey Perry will be missing his return to Anaheim on in in about a week here and you gotTa figure they'll probably count that yesterday. All the classic is one game already because there was still basically three periods left. So I mean that's essentially factor actor that and you think I don't know if they no no okay. I don't know that's total guests by me though. I'm as confident as usual in that. I'm really not confident at all. But it's like I don't know he's it was a part of that game it's added onto it. So what's what's everyone's guests here. Four or five games. The man I was with him being injured. That just changes everything I say three I think three two and then like I said what's missing the rest of the game yesterday Eh. Essentially A four-game suspension. But I think he'll be three. Listen Nothing Corey Perry. I just feel that considering on the national stage analysis injured. I'm going to say four or five. Who who who knows even more I? I don't know what I'd have to watch old fender. I know he's been suspended but I'm wondering if it's like because don't you lose your status if it's long long enough timeframe yeah so I'm not sure. When his last event and Aussie he's done a lot worse than that? If talk about as bad as should as you could do on the ice he'll do anything anything anything to win when he really will ask for the game itself. If it was the second biggest went the classic crowd ever eighty five thousand six hundred thirty people. I didn't realize it was that many. It was almost ten thousand more than Notre Dame last year. The second biggest to the big house in Michigan back and fourteen when they had one hundred and five thousand. Not sure that records GONNA get touched in one other note I wanted to add to. It wasn't just us for who who made this happen. We want to give a huge thank you and send our love to our Guy Rudy Camera and Corey of course Lisa Embi at Basel Little Headquarters and naturally new Amsterdam. Vodka and pink. Whitney will without all that gang and specifically nate at New Hampshire then without all those guys. None of this happens like I said it's not just a lot of people behind the scenes made all this week happened and we want to give them a huge hug in big banks and NHL is well. Apparently they've made it very easy for us to get into buildings as far as the pink. Whitney's concern turn and and they've helped help roll out the red carpet for us and give us access to certain guys showed up to the NHL as well with good call good call and they did announce next year's winter classic. It's going to be in Minnesota at target field in about two minutes after that. It's Whitney booked his trip to Disneyworld the families No I'm just I love this whole thing I wanna go work and stay but maybe next year bring the family damn. It's tough being aware in New Jersey. Actually no no. I'm going to say it's tough on girls guys. I who gives a fuck about New Year's Eve I walk. I so was I but the wife should be getting museum. It's you wake up only. Yeah we're even stay up. You wake up January one boom awesome like so I was. It was fine but maybe next year the family will be involved and finally we get to Minnesota. I mean if there's one st and asking us over and over and we've been trying to get their. Just you know logistics schedules. Ah It looks like it's going to work next year so we'll certainly going to be looking forward to that. It'll definitely be chilly next year. And I know the temptation guys to layer up. 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I knows those a lot of new blood which I think it's good. We could showcase a lot of these young stars. But what was your reaction to the list when my reaction was just marshawn right right bruins initial where I think the top of the top twelve leading scores in the NHL. He was the only one not not named as an all star he was at third. Those numbers might be a little off. But you know what I'm saying in terms of that he got he got robbed. Ara You are right. It's tough to get mad over these things. And that's the only thing I'll say is I think the All Star game just needs a little something has to change so that's just my opinion. These rosters come out and I see it and nothing really. I don't I don't get super excited site so I'm not that mad. That was the only one that really like all. You can make a huge argument but in the end. It's just if if something could change people a little bit more excited. I think it would be enormous. I think we talked about a little bit last episode. I don't look too much into it as far as guys getting left off just because guys dropout and then maybe they'll eventually replace them so then essentially essentially just bitching about someone who eventually got in on just what the way they set it up now with three on three guys are gonNA get snubbed every year more so now I mean I don't even have an idea of what they could do in order to spice it up even more because they moved it to three on three in order to do so and offered offered a million dollars to the winning team so guys maybe gave more of a shit about the all star game. Now I still feel like everyone doesn't want to be the Harto out there. So everyone Kinda just goes at that seventy percent pace if that depending on how hung over certain guys are Dylan. Larkin's tweet Biz. What's that Dylan Larkin? When when he said I think he tweeted? Oh please don't vote for me. I don't even I'd I'd rather the days off when he's out with the phone. So what are the what are they do. Maybe they maybe they start like a grinder finder game and the fourth liners and then offer the Million Dollar Prize and next thing you know guys are fucking scrapping. They should go back to sticks in the middle like they did that. One Neo Kessel is the last guy picked it. I don't know if they if they thought they embarrassed them because they haven't done that sense have they. I thought that was awesome when they drafted their own teams. I remember that it is funny. They just they ended up changing. I will say Jeff. The one who we talked about this one time. I remember him saying for people who do complaint and I'm marchand right. I wish I think he should made the team to Bruins are on there. How many bruins already to actually took or impostor and Birger on last man in voting? Okay so people say well. It's so stupid that you need to have a guy from every team while America's the one that was kind of saying it's not. It's a Bolton the kids that like how how do you get when you're a little kid for the All Star game and that's what I remember going when scored the goal in Boston. It was the I went to Skills Competition and the game my dad when he went four for four on the top. I don't know what what he did on the targets that you're in Boston I know. He scored the game winning goal. The last minute of the game in Boston and it it was sick and so I remember being fired up and so the point of having a guy from every team a younger kid from from every NHL city that's going to be so pumped to watch the skills. Gilles competition some ten and eleven year old and the All Star game the next day they get to see a guy from their team their hometown team so I I understand that side of it and I actually just. After we recorded on Sunday we got an all time towards it was too bad. We are recorded by all men Gatien. You weren't up to speed. What happened was the reps absolute penalty In towards the time should have been reset back about a second which does happen all the time. Usually they'll confer the look at the clock and sale. Yeah Shit that you know. This should be another second second on and he felt that the referee being stubborn. They weren't listened to him or Felino. And of course. Zack were inskeep. Scores would point it was just after the Buzzer when this should have been time left on the clock so twits Gee why don't you kill it up for us. So the whistle blows. The whistle is blown at nineteen point two on on the clock for some reason. The clock is run down a second and attempt to eighteen point one for whatever reason I have no idea idea so instead of resetting the clock. We have them tell our captain we're not GONNA do. A Toronto doesn't step in restaurants. They're freaking job. And now we lose the game and we lose our Goldie so the chain of events if was done might we don't lose our goalie. We win the hockey. He game so all this technology right the technology and getting things right the stubborness tonight by the officials and by the League League and Toronto. However it's supposed to work screws? It's ridiculous I'm not taking any. I mean you know what's valid it is. I mean there's nothing wrong. What he said other than the fact that you know he'll get dinged up by the NHL? But that's GONNA be alright. All right twenty he got it was twenty. Okay they said and they said if he says anything moving forward like. He's on a time stamp here that he's GonNa get Ching Ching wide. It would move up to forty five okay or an additional twenty five grand either way a little rack from the NHL and you. You had a pretty good rant about this. And and in the fact of listen I also don't know how much bitching towards was doing earlier in the game and this is something that's not talked about much. He is bang on on his description of what it happened in in overtime as far as the penalty and then of course his goalie starting goalie. He's been on fire lately going down and that's probably what ticked him off the most. But if you're laying into a referee over the course of the game about maybe some if he calls maybe at that point when he bitched about the second the refs like dude. I don't you want to hear from you anymore because we're in overtime and I'm getting yelled at all game from you now. If that was the first thing he said to him and he's like hey. I just need you to check the time. Because they ran it off a little bit. And that's the time that we can use scoreboard. Then this fucking thing and they completely brushed them off the referee man. I mean it already was. I'm I'm I went back to my first point about the bitching all game. Some of these. These wraps get verbally abused. And we've talked about that before but just go fucking check the time I mean who it gives a shit right and for its solar his goalie to go down for the fact that they've fucking scored of course it would have been towards the coach. Who would have asked them to change it and it kind worked out an align better for entertainment value on our side of things with? It's just I don't I don't so he was bringing up. Toronto in Little Clip we played. Can they step in if they noticed that it was wrong. I mean I feel like that has to be the REF. I wish I knew for sure but if you look at like how it all all went down it seems pretty easy to say. Hey Hey seconds. An extra second one off the clock after the whistle like I remember being on the bench and constantly constantly if that happened the whole bench. WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA? WHOA and for the most part they check so yeah? I don't know if he was if they were going at it and that was the end of a long night right where he wasn't going to check for them. That's one thing but I. I was very surprised to see something like that. Knock it fixed. It was fixed ten years ago when I play the I feel like it'd be even more accurate now in getting the exact time when the whistle blew and for them to lose their goal in for them to have points in ten straight six. Oh and four orange. That's how they lost their goal tender and a big game that sox. Because what if what if we're GONNA run. They've had and I should on them before the year and Sonnen think they were going to be able to do much. Lose that type of those type offense players and Pinera Duchenne how you're gonNA score goals and it's been a grind a little bit but to go on a run like got give credit to give credit to a lot of guys and they've been battling injuries to it just sucks to see that that that night kind of put them really behind the eight ball goaltending wise when we know those guys who play hard especially under an Ara. You mentioned that you don't even like gambling on Columbus because they're just so unpredictable. Yeah I mean it's not a an addition respectful way. It's just you don't know if they're going to win or lose like I mean the perfect example what you said six. Oh and four in their last ten. They've gotten points in all of them. But you know it's it's basically fifty fifty you're gonna hit the bed and like like you said where I mean business. That's why torture so probably pissed off. Because he lost his goal tendon in the locker room. Those players were really bundle because he started off slow corpuscle but he's picked his game up. I mean he's been probably the teams best player. You know ten game winning streak up so I point street. This is a team. People don't think he's going to go the playoffs there within sniffing distance than they lose their number one guy so we get to see the of. ELVIS IS GONNA keep to keep the boat afloat Elvis. We've got to win this game and a great point. No I didn't even factor that in I mean we're acting like these guys are going for a lottery repick because they lost all these guys and you know how competitive tortoises and losing the starting goalie. When you're starting to fucking catch fire? We all know what a good goalie can wear. It can get. I mean we have to look at all the year that he won the heart. I mean he dragged that New Jersey team in the playoffs absolutely and Gustav Nyquist another guy who started off slow. He's been on a tear lately else. Leading the team in scoring nine goals nineteen assists. Then you know he was the big free agent acquisition so he's keys contributed as well but this is a team. I think they'll at six points back of a playoff spot right now and again. A lot of people had him probably pegged for the lottery. So you know there are team to Rufai. Guess if you like an underdog so either way tough corpuscle. Hopefully they'll get him back for the stretch run though Had An interesting stat that came across the wire about wins in the calendar at twenty nine thousand nine hundred Saint Louis did lead the league with fifty six but number two Carolina Arlene hurricanes they set a franchise record fifty four wins in the county at twenty nine hundred forty years in the league. That's pretty big deal for them. This is a team on the rise. They got a hell of roster. I think right brindamour huge fact that he seems to be a very successful coach thus far one name this year. That's you know really jumped out at me has been James Reimann man. I mean he was a bit of a journeyman bounced around played for a few different teams. And he's been fucking lights out most nights they Shia. I guess I'll take this over. I was I thought their goal. Tending was GONNA DOC shit this year and I didn't think they are going to be able to repeat what they did last year in that magical Ron so I'll put my foot in my mouth and I'll get bent over. Spit no loop sample preventative. So congratulations to the hurricanes and that organization they have really turned things around and really I mean they got. They got some young young guys in that in that system. I don't see them going away going away anytime soon. They're they're fun to watch and to to get to the eastern conference final last year. Right did anyone see that happening. And then they come back and they didn't really I mean I don't know exactly what they lost off the top of my head right now. But they got their core back the hose their the entire vine and all my God think the Blackhawks maybe Redo that one gave up on a little bit early there and he's look awesome. He leads that team in scoring. I said Oh Dougie. Hamilton gotten people give him grief right. I don't know what he's like in the locker room. You kind of hear things Biz right while this guy can play and I know we had the one was the teammate looking for the Knox Biz and he gave him the hog remember that awkward thing her. Yeah who gives a shit when you're playing like he is because offensively he just he's able to escape with the puck so well shot so hard from the point. He's just made a meaning like a big time impact. I think people saw he would saw him doing at some point is career with where he was drafted and you can kind of go on listing all all the all the names in that team but brindamour I think guys love playing for him and my my sense get into getting to see him at the very end of his career. Maybe I was in the in the league with him him for a couple of years. Oh my God. This guy worked his balls off and you knew for a fact if he'd ever coach his team to do the exact same thing. There'd be no nights where steam wasn't working because that's never how he was as a player. He so adamant on that so I think what's also cool is that as much How do you word? Ah Carolina's been not exactly thought of as a hockey town at times in the past fifteen years but when they when they're good and when they go to these conference finals in those Cup runs dude. I was at a cup final game. It's it's insanity the places so loud. They're tailgate before they just need winners to be to get fans down on there. That's how it is in North Carolina ought to these people are loyal and love this team now so I think it's pretty cool to see that they haven't slowed down and and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them and get back to these two conference finals. They're getting goaltending not too correct. You said the last fifteen years. I don't know when they want it last but there was. There was a few years there where they were still getting the attendance. It's but there was a pretty hard drop off when they got bad and and yeah they kind of went away for a bit. There was rumors that they were going to be one of the teams that was gonNA move and I've probably been a guy that said. Maybe they should move but if this good and people are going it's just different. It's just people got off. It's awkward to see the place. Be Dead Empty. The years that they're bad at least you'd think that some people would still show up and not the shifted to a sad subject but Eric Hala He. He lost a August. I'll let take it over. Are you probably have written down. Yeah these are the top stories. We don't like to necessarily talk about but they're out there so we like to keep people informed the Carolina Ford Eric Hala he posted on instagram that his unborn dawn unborn daughter had passed away and he did right on the sticks that rip date in Agassi scored the next game and kind of gave up. Appoint Up to the heavens which is just I mean. I can't imagine having to go through that as as a human being let alone an athlete in front of all those people so you know we just want to send our hi felt sympathies dots and his family. Because it's something you know. I think a lot of people go through that not everybody makes public and for him to make public is commendable. Thank Shoal You know our our prayers are with him and we hope better days ahead for him and his family. Of course we're all set are already busy. Just shifting back the car the canes did when the COP and Oh six and you're right they lose a little bit of Ticket sales would ever but they got a huge bump last year. I know Sarah Savvy and she's a great report for the athletic. She did a big story on them. Basically they sold the. I don't the number that thought had sold a shitload of season ticket so I think they're crowds are going to be coming back anytime. You have a nice little run like that. It's always a big deal for a team and right now a one while okay. Two points back a Pittsburgh for the third and the division show won't be surprised to see them back in the playoffs. Can we shift to Pittsburgh. Just very quickly. I know we stroke them off every episode IV checking out twitter and I forget the guy's name I ran across his page again Guinea Malka. NSEN Sidney crosby went out with injury. Okay these are the numbers and there might have been one more game played after this was tweeted. Twenty one games for Guinea Malcolm. Nine Goals Twenty five assists seventy seventy six shots on goal penguins outscoring teams twenty six fifteen with him on the ice at five on five penguins. outscoring teams forty two nineteen with him on the ice in all all situations a fifteen five and three record. He missed two of those games. Of course Oh Evgeni Malkin just going and complete beast mode right now and that was was just more more analytically. Give some numbers because I know we stroke them off last episode and didn't really say you know what he'd done and I respect as a former penguin myself myself busy lead off with the good the bad all jake. Would it would a shitty break for a guy who had a career year last year and you know how he he came back from that Biz. He was in the process of having even a bigger career or another career year and to see him be out for the year just socks because what he was doing was was proven. that it wasn't because of Sidney crosby sky could do it on his own. He's that good of a goal score and you know what the the penguins at this. This point have missed crosby. Duman la Tang Malkin rust and jaw Justin Schultz for for different spans throat. This season and they've just continued to win. And it's it's been so admirable but you also think that none of those guys injuries was season ending and this is so Pretty Shitty break for for a guy that you could tell teammates love for someone who's really turned into a star in the league if if not already one those are those are two cup contenders now who have lost guys off the season in with terrorists. Ain't going saint. Louis I mind you. I may come back from a play playoffs. Correct but I mean that's a long chunk of time in order to stay on it but we we can move on from Pittsburgh because we do spend enough time when I'm so get well soon gained. Send in bus by select Laura Boys just a quick note though they did say for the rest of the regular season. He's got a Ford a six month recovery so if the pens were to go on a run it's possible he could return for the playoffs. It's right now just a regular season and yes. He was leading the team in goals and points. So hopefully we'll get get him back brands. We'll do recover the recovery times now or a wild. So you're right. I shouldn't have said definite now. We'll we'll see what happens Hey Man Montreal tops leading up daily other than Max Domi scoring five straight. It's been a run for the haves lately. They ended twenty nine thousand nine with three straight losses. And then they just lost Brendan Gallagher due to a concussion meeting. They've lost four. The top nine guys and the kickoff twenty twenty with three home games but the land Tampa Pittsburgh in Winnipeg so it doesn't get any easier for them. They're currently seven points out of playoffs. What they need to get it together soon and also and I say this with all due respect? They need more from Carrie price. If they're going to get to the postseason fifteen goals allowed in his last three games. A sub eight five zero save percentage in those games does. What's up with the Canadians body? I mean I can't remember if I had him as a playoff team. I thought maybe sneak in but just from what I'm hearing though they they they work their balls off as far as an effort. Let levels concerned. Claude Julian's getting them out of that getting out of them. I'm struggling right now. New Tongue the fuck you laughing at. I'm laughing at the fact that you just said new tongue. I haven't heard that in a while. It's a good one but I also talk. Show are struggling a little bit off the hall. How the live show and the guy we we took some questions and the guy goes Biz? Please do alive. Add right right now and I wouldn't do it because Mikey pulled up a thing that looked like seven paragraphs but I was. I was really really rooting for that. It was it was like a size. Two Font I would have been squinting although already was because I did smoke before I went onstage and people probably thought I was stuttering and stopped because I was I was a little high but there was a slight delay delay in the headphones saw hearing what I was saying for like a split second delay in either like recalibrate my brain within the first two minutes of being on stage. And and were you guys noticing that too just sub-conscious talking to me shit like you had no clue what was going on at the beginning. What do you mean you could? I could tell you talking and then like listening to your voice you were right it was fucking with you. Yeah we'll give you couldn't i. It was it it was bothering me but I think it was mentally Messing with you if I don't WanNA I don't WanNa pat myself on the back but but soon thereafter. I just kind of figured it out. My brain was like all right. You'RE GONNA have to deal with it and we we battled through it so next show. Let's just get some Mike's Please you doubt I'll give you that. The ones you asked for you asked for. I know but I wasn't asking about the delay in the Britney Spears was getting a delay. Say That again you. You think Britney Spears had the delay which you mentioned I bet you did. Maybe if you got there early enough if we could tested the mics I love Grenell. He's giving it back to me although Britney Spears is probably singing so it didn't matter whether she's saying anything No offense Britney questions. Yeah we're talking to you. I think that is one team that if sustaining those types of injuries they're not going to be able to make playoffs whereas there's other they weren't that deep to begin with they got four top nine forwards out now with gallagher. They don't I said before undersized group I think they thought they'd be battling all year where they are now but seven points. Are you just said Ed. Hartley points back. Yeah I thought yeah that that's as big as it's going to be able to get for them. I mean if they all of a sudden you you go nine eleven points out and you need to go on a run do they have the roster to maybe twelve fifteen which is what you'd need. I don't see that happening in less. Carry price turns into MVP Vesna Carey price that you can't what's going on the brick wall not like close Gillians going to have a choice. But one of the criticisms I was reading online was the fact that he doesn't really trust the young guys and he has a hard time putting Winningham out there now. Is that something that you guys experience when he was coach in Boston. That was probably my biggest criticism of cloud when he did coach. He relied on his veterans way. Way Too much and I would always go back to the Colorado Avalanche of the nineties like those guys always drew the young kids through them right into the fire and that's how you know baptism by fire. That's that's how you know you have but closed. He relied on his veterans. I mean sometimes it works but a lot of times. He should have been going with Somali so I'm not surprised at all. That's the situation age. Have you seen that cock cocktails canea me own. That's a tall. USA's playing right now. So I'm doing this on purpose. He he like. You haven't really seen what I thought they what they'd probably thought they would this year but there has been times you will say doesn't play enough and then you read. I read I. I read something like is there a chance. He could ever go to the miners to try to get some confidence back to get some more playing time and you wonder why he is so hesitant on using young guys in the league that is now like built around young guys one hundred percent in fact. Now you've got some injured guys. Are you said it. Put them out there. What you got an accurate? Yeah and if you give them a long enough sample size and you look at Bergeford and you say listen man. I've been throwing the sky out there but there is also something about easing mm-hmm into it and at this point I feel like they should have been up to where they should be playing it in all of a sudden he'd be like Oh everyone's hurt so now we're gonNA throw it. It is amazing. Zing how how players can can sense the body language off coaches where they don't actually have their confidence. It's easy to say now like okay. Now I'm giving you twenty minutes where we're yeah where it's like dude. You're not you don't believe me I can sense that it's so I don't know it. That's a that's another thing. So she for Montreal. They need a youth movement. Because as you know they don't exactly have you know veterans that are going to be like like the core group of the Boston. Bruins were they gotta find those guys so also absolutely been rambling before him around though for Montreal quick because the the tables have turned in in terms of the Weber Assu banned trade great. What a season by Shea Weber right absolute and someone that a lot of people said can you move can escape mislead anymore him being injured? You realize how big of a hit that was for them so thirty one points in forty games. He's he's continuing to do it and and I would say right now. Who would you rather have shaved Weber and a landslide so IRA? I think you said you wanted the go-to the oath scientists. I was just GonNa say all those people very very very vocal online. Just beat not one for months and months and months you guys. Has it been pretty fucking quiet about it. And if you're going to stick your neck out there with your hot takes saw especially I felt like it was almost disrespect to a guy like Shea Weber to said like talk about. Oh my God we got Shea Weber for PK. Sue Ban like show some fucking respect and that's a SOS how much some of these guys know about the game itself. What are you going to say wait a minute ago? It's unbelievable I make fun of Coxoni Emmy and Finland scores six seconds inciter. You literally couldn't write that up any different and what a no look pass to see the goal fending off one nothing fifteen thirty six left Jesus. USA let's go boys. I mean we kind of dive avenue a little bit of world. Juniors that l'avenir is Latin year outlaw. I Love Frontier. Lafuente heard pronounce. Both he returned to Action Against Slovakia and the Canadians dummied them today. Barrett hate and I get to power play goals so eat my into laughing the greatness in his first name accurate as a stallion. I hope I hope the coyotes make the playoffs but somehow win the lottery and get him a boy. We did mentioned generally as per usual. We got two for the price of one today. To guests on Spitting Chiklis to a variety of guess. You'd say I stop one of the best. General managers manages ever one of the titanic names in Hockey Brian. Burke we're going to be thrown it over to him pretty soon. This is like an honor to talk to a guy. This guy is a legend around the game. He's he's he's maybe A. B. From Minnesota but he's Kinda gotTa surely He's an attitude. We'd love talking on. We've got about a half hour so at them and then a few weeks back or at headquarters and Biz sat down with Roan Zeile one of the employees apostol hostile. He was a world class battle rap he does a bunch of other stuff a Bostonian me and business idea to sit down and talk with him. I thought it was a really good interview. We're GONNA bring that a little bit later. Data I I we should send over to you now and before we sent over to burke what. I didn't realize you went to Harvard. Harvard law school. Yeah did we know that going into that interview. I did and it's nice to hear a guy who's as opinionated as him. But he's given everything he's talking about thought thought and he has reasons behind his opinion so a very very respected man game of hockey. He's accomplished so much. And we you guys are GONNA here. We're going to sit down with this guy in the future and have a couple of cold ones because we could do a trilogy on this guy absolutely without further Ado Brian Berg Our next guest is one of the most respected voices in the game. He's been the NHL Dean of discipline. He's run run the show for a handful of NHL Franchises over the last several decades. He's put together multiple iterations of team. USA He's got his name on the Stanley Cup. As the general manager of the two thousand seven mighty ducks all the ducks and these days you can hear them a pine nine about the league on Rogers Sports Net. It's a pleasure to walk into Brian. Breakfast bit gypped with guest. Thanks Guys Hey burkey beer burkey thank you so much it's width. Thanks again for pick the Olympic team when Paul Martin got hurt. What my question I don't? It's not even a question that we could talk to you for six hours. Feel like it would never be willing to thirty minutes. Because you're a media superstar so now you actually got a tie your tie said hanging around your neck. But it's been about a year and a half since you step down as the president of hockey operations. Calgary how are you enjoying being on TV. I'm enjoying it wet. It's it's good. It's almost no travel. which is really important to me and Getting more time with my daughters appear in Toronto. I like the work I like the people replay work with and I like to schedule. It's not a real positive change for me. Burkey we have guests on. We like to go to the beginning of this story and take from the top. Now you're born in Providence Providence. But you were settled in Minnesota. How old were you? When the family moved to Minnesota I left Providence one. We moved to Celsius under Chicago then. Boston Austin and then Minnesota we moved to Minnesota when I was twelve and we stayed there dad was in sales and he kept getting promoted. Okay then of course you ended up going back to providence and you played the legend himself Lulu Morello at Providence. College was that was he a big reason why you ended up playing there for sure. I ended up playing college hockey about a thousand yards from. I'm where I went to the hospital where I was born. It's really really creepy and spooky. You and I realize what happened but I mean we moved all over if people ask assume wearing from Minnesota because there from what I was twelve till I went back and played Summer hockey there and work outside their so from twelve to twenty two. I was in Minnesota. That's where people ask me where I say I'm from you're right I was born in Providence. Berkey was Lou The reason why you eventually wanted to get into management after you're done on playing in the in the career didn't necessarily go where you want it to know. We actually went well. I'll tell you that story. My career can go the way I wanted it to. 'cause I wasn't pretty good. Join the club. I didn't start playing hockey until I was thirteen and I had so. I've become so hard hard so far so fast to catch up and I did it with hard work and talk to us and being the indictable team at four rule. Soon be invaluable teammate. Uh indispensable of the coach. Never be corrected like the coach. Never had to say video burke you out of position there I did everything right. 'cause I had and then the hardest worker. Yeah and then play tough and you get to the pro level you guys know. Everyone has so same for rules and some of them are better than you so I went back to school and I was fortunate that that was able to go back to law school. That's because a little umbrella. He he made me take the l sat the law boards when I was a senior and I blew him away and I got into Harvard law school so deferred my admission for a year. Play the American League. WanNa call her up and then went to law school so at that time though you don't you don't plan on making a career in hockey doc management or or you're dead going to law school like this was the beginning of that first step to get into the highest level of different way than playing. I think stop people stop. I have to ask the speaker law schools because I answer that truthfully. I didn't ever have a plan for anything. Wow I didn't never ever planet. I didn't plan to go to law school. I didn't plan to worked for teams like it didn't seem possible. You guys remember when I'm twelve years old. I'm just starting hockey. Just moved to Minnesota. The kids are already Freddie. Got Years in play. They've been planning since over four or six years in and you gotta catch them all on. Pass them so it wasn't like I thought. Well maybe I'll play pro walk. You just said maybe I can pay for part of their play college hockey I can pay for part of my degree and then when I got a chance to sign with the fires I was like well maybe I can play in the NHL but likely not and then going to kind of a working for team you dreaming about being an astronaut. When you were a kid Berkey he? was there anyone early on you kinda. Who took you under your wing on the management and hockey side of things? Because I've heard a few stories about you want for major and Aucoin when things weren't working out for for for him in Vancouver and you did your best to move him as fast as possible and put him in a successful situation where you know some GM Zal elect guys sit there and rot in. Wait until they get a better return or something that they want to return. Now you seem to be a bit of players. Gm like is that something you learned from someone else. I know I think it's I played for Lulu Enroll in college I played for Bob Camden in the American league. And I just I saw so the there was very little empathy in the game back. Then you gotta remember. I'm not far from the year where they used to send guys down by pinning a train ticket to their pants. This is true guy would come off the ice from practice. There'd be a train ticket tend to his pants Carey Chris tells a great story one. The bruins sent him down and they had a farm team in Oakland California and one in Oklahoma City and he wanted to go to Oklahoma City because he played with the guys that you're before he had a place to eleven so Melissa Smith was. Jimmy said You you're going Oklahoma or to Oakland and Christie says you know TC can kindergarten. Oklahoma City I know some guys airing. My wife comes full there. I have a place to stay and so the Bruins went back and thought about it and they said well. Here's somebody do today drive as far west as you can and stop for the night. And that's that's that's how it was back then and like you know. Even when I played the American league like some only stories. It's coaching abuse and everything I can tell you. Coaching abuse this. This was a perfectly fine back in the day. And we're making progress. This is not. I'm not being I algebra sentimental about it but with with Adrian I I'll focus a great kid. He's a great guy It wasn't that easy to trade him because he's a good player. Everybody was really it was like you were. When I hadn't even the Olympics we were just stuck right then right and But both great kids and I was happy to move all could get a place to go so I'm not sure the exact year but I'm guessing eighty one eighty two early eighties. You Graduate Harvard Law School or and what's the first step. What's where do you go right after that? Well I worked at Clark did a summer job as a clerk at a law firm after my first and second years and then accepted the job with the firm I Clark for So when I came out of my third year I had a job lined up. I went back to Minnesota for a couple of weeks at a new baby woo. ooh What. Katie it's just born that summer but when I got out of school and Back to Minnesota for bed and then just took the bar exam. 'cause the bar exam studied every day. Katie was born in the middle of that. Like two weeks after graduation so you take a three hour course. Study every day at any rights bar exam the last two days July. Why and then the law firms won't let you start until after Labor Day they make you take a month off because you're GonNa work your tail often life so it took a month off? Went Back to me and started working so I practice for six years two different firms Get some corporate works at some industrial ending. did some But by Eddie and was representing players almost exclusive inside punch of good players that represented. I enjoyed that or represented Joel Auto Brad Hall of Kevin Pete Theater later so had great success at it but I just when I got a chance to go to a team jump Don Berk. He didn't go to law school. You have with law school. It's kind of a big deal I WANNA ask you. What was it like in Boston at that time? Did you go out to Baas like what was the. It was such crazy violent time in Boston. Were you around any of that. We just Kinda had you had a book all those years. Well I I didn't I mean I harbor wasn't much fun. I went to Providence College which is a great school. But you're we're going into a little different pool at Harvard with the kids you're studying and compete against and it wasn't much fun. It was a lot of work I didn't socialize much I not at all second year. I started playing rugby at the business school so I ended up plan four and a half years for the Harvard Business School. Rugby Football Club ended up being captain. One one year We played in the top league in Boston. We didn't play an academic schedule and I'm some of the Border Rugby Canada today. That's my second favorite sport so Once I started are playing rugby and I got married so things got better but it's not much fun. You're going head to head with people that are smarter than you that worked just as hard. It's just like being in the American League. Well my rules didn't help so if you're going head to head with a guy who's smarter than you you work by what you're still going to be. It's still tough. I felt like I was swimming against the current so the all three years burke. I've heard some wild stories about owners kind of stepping in the way of of trades and maybe sometimes forcing general managers hands. Have you ever had to deal with an issue like that. Where where it may be an owner was was stopping a movie? Were trying a make or forcing your hand and into an a follow up question as well. Who's what's your biggest regret as a GM as far as guy you move maybe a little bit too early in a pop and often and and you're like damn okay? It's almost done. We have got forty five minutes. Get going here. Whatever whenever I speak publicly someone always asked me? What's the worst Australia remained and I'm like well? How much time do we made some horrible traits? I'm serious I mean and you're GonNa if you're just wanting to the fence and if you're gonNA make great trades you're gonNA make some bad trades to you can't have both way if you're not gonNA run horrible risks to great trades. Then you'RE NOT GONNA get burn. ERNANI DEALS YOU'RE GONNA make mediocre or average steals your whole career. You got to step back and swing at the ball guy to gain some horrible deals but no oh gamble but but I to me like okay. So we do the deal for the twins and it turned out everyone says oh it's a great deal sheer brilliance but their world junior that year they were you just okay when they played Canada the US didn't do much and they didn't come. In the first year they went back and played moto and they come over the first year. Danny had a good first year. But they've Kinda struggled Duggal for two or three years and saying boy it was sheer. Jesus now you look at their Kerzner. which is Brian? Burke was a genus of my well if I was so smart how come my drafted draft draft Danny pink away better player that I didn't even get this idea. We get the sequence right so I made some horrible trades. I mean I traded. I traded Who did trade Yanni's lavas treated Yanni how lava sweet deal. I flipped him American League. So it worked out okay but I gave up like a second round pick for Yanni. Hobbies flipped him. Got American League traded down for sheer. You're to the flyers for a third round pick in when he was one of the toughest guys in the League No I've made some horrible deals but you make the good ones and remember your trade up at the draft ninety three and take Chris Partner second overall you trade up and take twins you're bringing in wrong and you have a parade. Those are the ones everyone remembers. Not not the not the terrible absolutely believe me I made some terrible ones and just going back to the first part of that question. Had you ever had to deal with maybe an owner stepping in where you know. There's a I'm sorry. I'm sorry I forgot the first part I to me when I went in for my job interviews what I would say that the owners in the interview was look if you hire me. There's too goddamn hands on the steering wheel in their false mine so and if you don't want to give that much authority to to a GM help you hire the guy you want. It won't be me but I'll help you hire a guy that can work with your parameters so I had pretty complete autonomy with all of my owners. I had an owner Tila deal once Over money which I think they're entitled to do Would have put us a million over budget and the owner said. I'm not gonNA tell you not to do hockey deals and said. Do you make this hockey deal. Why do you make money lineup? Fine but you have no right to spend million bucks wasn't budgeted and they said you're absolutely right. Yeah yeah that's five Josh some subtle subtle interference or guys that say what about this. What about that but the minute? You're taking advice from your owner trades. You gotTA move on anyway. Would you be. Would you be cool. What telling us who the guy was here? You're going to spend over budget for was Keeps the chuck all get the fuck the podcast all the time. What a player tire? Yeah well it's my first year now. We might want to cups. That's exactly where I was going because you. You brought up Chris pronger one of my idols grown grown up. You had him in Hartford and then when you got to Anaheim. Did you figure listen this you had your your eyes set on him pretty early for no we. We we had a meeting. We went to the conference finals. Right and so SCOTT BEING AMERICANS THEIR CAPS and Tim lose first year back in forty eight goals and we we had a really good team Eamon we. It was a Brian. Burke team was ugly and skilled. And there's a mean tail really a business plan for me. I mean Christ so so it was like you know top six. Are you know like best in show and bottom six working on a chain gang somewhere. That's kind of how the team was split and so to me. Wow we had a chance to get a meeting. After we went to the conference final sub skipping this step we lost having to turn the conference finals they WanNa lost and Stanley Cup finals and he dominated and we W- we had a better team than that like we could've beaten Edmonton. I don't know if we could it be Tampa Bay but I I think we could've beaten and And we had a meeting after and he was brilliant. And so we're like okay. Are we looked yet. So this is me and Randy Carlyle. I'm Bob Marine system coaches and Kevin Dineen. Who was our American American league coach? And we're like are we legit or do we just write a hot goalie to the conference finals. And we're all like no man. We're a jet. Willard sits skill wise and legit they on the Brian Burke style play we can run anyone out of any building we can beat teams up. We can explore our size differential french-ill. We are legit. I said all right. Then what do we need. And they're all like Chris pronger well. That'll be easy. You're going to go to the draft in Evanston Had talked to a bunch of teams and they came around and they dropped her proposal on four table sauce and three other teams and they dropped her proposal and said its first trump trump pick joffrey Lupul and ladies meet now joffrey. Lupul had better best forward that you're in the playoffs he's an Edmonton kid and they played really well for me and laddis means a rate kid a wonderful young chuck defense and it was a top prospect and I said on the spot I walked over to the table. We'll do it and the League wouldn't let us do it. Because we tagging room issue there was a salary cap that she so Kevin. When I did it we only four days later after the draft? We saw the tagging issue But that was. That's right that and we started talking about 'cause you guys know you played. You never talked about winning the Stanley Cup not done you. Don't talk about it till you're you're in the playoffs and there's things in front of you. We started talking about it and training. How we're like guys look around this room? Used think you're ever going to be a room with a group of guys that are better chance to when it comes to this group. Yes again yup well so that that team is is so incredible to think about the the pulse in need Meyer Travis Mon line. Oh my God but I wanna ask about when gets off and Perry came because their junior year in all four O.. Five they finished to play the playoffs in the NHL and the next year the rookie year in the NHL. They also were in Portland a little little bit early in that season and at some point did you guys just figure I listen. These are next level GONNA be future superstars and we gotta get 'em up playing a lot. No I'll I'll tell you exactly what happened because they the truth should be known about this I didn't like our dressing room. That first year and Sergei Federov was a great player is Zakian reserves. And he was not into our team at that time. Spent a Lotta time in L. A.. And just we just had wrong leadership group we had. We had the wrong group in the room. And I called and Corey Perry and Ryan get South and I. I'm about to do the most unfair thing I've ever done in management and that's some setting you both out. You cannot learn at the knee of a guy who's not focused on our team. Learning that the neo of a guy who was who's winning games fresh his top priority. So I sent them down and I said you gotTA respect this league. You should tear it up if you play hard and I will bring you back once they get rid of this guy so I traded him sent him down they tore it up and I brought them back and the best part about their first year is at the end of the year we lose to Edmonton Canada. Uneven had the Portland pirates in the in the in the caller conference finals as well. We've made them go to Hershey. I play game seven an Paneriai. Thank you sent to. I might have some ten thirty other Burki. I think I think it's fair to point out that you hey guys go down and dominate. While gets off Perry played seventeen in one thousand nine hundred respectively. They had thirty three thirty three thirty four point so it was it. was that dominant. Where I all right burke you've gotta how to bring us back now? I had to get someone out of that room for and I think the reason Corey Perry Ryan Got Slough have had such great careers. There's is 'cause I've set that stage for where were they came back to the voices. They were listening to Scott near my team. Oh not Not Sergei again surrogates a nice not guy and he's a great player. I'm not trying to start a rockslide with him. Plaid he was not into what we're doing right then we needed A. We need a new voice perky. I WANNA go back to hot for a secular general manager. Then he became team president but less than two months. Later you end up leaving you take a job with the. Nhl Front office was that due to the ownership and arena situation in Hartford. All was it. Was it a better job. Frankly no knows about me. Richard Gordon was the owner. Good guy but we did not see eye to eye on much and that was I took the job with the league probably about an hour before I would have got Ken there. We had it. We had a big fight. Richard Richard night a big argument. He's a nice guy like my son passed away. Richard came up for the funeral from her for good guy real different view on how to play now. That team name was my toughest team. That team could beat that Anaheim team out in the alley in about five minutes yell few years different out I went to to the League and I've been lucky I've had three great guys that I worked for a mentor type. People that really taught me a lot in Gary Bettman was the was the third of ability I played for Lulu Morello. Who is just a wonderful wonderful man and then I worked for PAT? Quinn is one of the finest people that ever worked walked on this planet but then I got to work with Gary area. Gary is so smart and such a good guy. It makes me sick. How his images so poor in Canada and he's done so much for the game and he's so bright and so tough so I've been really lucky? I got molded by some really really top sculptors. I wanted to get to bed. Been in a couple of minutes. But I I WANNA ask you. First how thankless is it being the chief disciplinarian for the League League while you're stupid several times a day in an stupid twice Most of the guys are good. Like Morella you call up blue and spending the sky lewd say fine. That's the same way I was so when Coley suspended a guy might like you're you're not gonNA get word out of bus. I had a little different view though because I would say to the League. We don't need suspensions here in Anaheim. Well look after our guys you you guys do whatever ever you want with the rest of the. You don't have to protect my team. 'cause my guys will protect. It so don't worry about us he can just become. We're not here and if you watch watch we looked after our own guys. We didn't we didn't call complain of the League. We didn't send in tapes. We're like guys someone here affects us. We're not we're not called New York. Somebody's sex this. You saw what happened. I shouldn't have to come in this room and tell you so. But it is a thankless job Two guys on me were packed. In my old boss who I loved doug he was really brutal and suspend players he would just give it to me and pure Lequel was too so the the best one with pure I would. I DID A playoff game in Philly Edmonson in Dallas for plan in Evanston and Peter Forsberg was standing in the crease and he's trying to jam in a puck. They got the goalie out and billy we guarantee to his right so you guys in business. Peer for personal upshot Phillies to is right. He's the right shot and across his body chop some chops. Peter Forsberg on the BICEP. Just like you're supposed to disrupt the shot. But because he's a right sock going across his body the tip of the stick clips. Peter Forsberg the cheek so you gotta like nine stitches or ten stitches right and my deal with NHLPA. Is that anything less than ten stitches shaving anyway. So it's no it's no big deal purely clock calls me. I'm driving on the New Jersey turnpike driving back. From the Flyers Playoff Game Don Koharski refereed. He was excellent phone rings. It's worse than the Kennedy assassination. Less he goes Peter for Billy Garin just tried to be head head Peter Forsberg my father pizzas nickname with us. Father Pete to Father Pete. Calm down calm down what happened. He said he just slashed Austin viciously in the face so I said look. I'm going back to the office. I'll take a look at it I'll call you back so that my cost me three minutes later and and says what happened in Evans. I said Gary Wasn't selling tonight. I'm on the New Jersey Turnpike. I don't know what happened. He said well. It sounds that so called Dave anonymous. I said tell. Let me we tape that game. So you guys are GonNa Laugh. We had four. VCR's at the League office we could record four games. The run time was two hours and fifteen not minutes so we start them out like seven twenty 'cause he'd never ever suspension the first ten minutes right and we just hope if the game went into overtime or glass broke or something. Nothing I think at the end of the ball. He's coming back from a game on the island. I said tell me we tape that game. You're going to pay for it. Depicts pick four games out of so many games they said yeah. I think we taped it. They should tell me this happened at the end of the game. I hope we got it so we get back. We see what happened and I called Father Pete and so I'm not suspended them for that for you. Not and he went not screaming. I'm going to get your job or your. Your days are numbered as the league and a lot of pressure. Sure on the playoffs. But Yeah thankless job. I think it's a little easier for George perilous now because with the videos to issue and everything I think there's a clear understanding what standards are in Canarias. Yeah that's fair that's fair kind of I don't mean to put you on the spot but my question is you spent a Lotta time representing players. You're an agent you're dealing with GM's will all of a sudden years later you're on the other side and you're the guy that ten talk to the agent do you. Do you ever remember thinking you know what gm did that drove me. Nuts that I'll never do when I'm dealing with guys guys is this. was there anything that you were like. I'll never do that to to an agent. When I'm talking on there was but I ended up doing it to all the the the guy the guy that was the most sincereity to deal with was Bill Tori? Bill Torrey was a gentleman through and through a very bright all right man very educated Polish. The bowtie swore yeah rarely swore but he would just say no to whatever you put in front of him and I said well. You're the only guy I know it can say no one twenty two languages. I'll let say yes to some of this and he would just say no and so what we did and I. This is my advice to anyone. That's young getting in the agent business or the management. This if you WANNA make a deal with player ninety nine percent of whether you're able to do that or not it's going to hinge on the first off so we almost like an arbitration case. We Wanna come with an offer. That's right in the ballpark. Maybe a little wiggle room for the Asian to get his feet. But then we're not moving so we'd say okay. We researched this When we think you're you're worth two million dollars a we're going to offer to the other teams would offer one six and make drag it up right? We're going to offer you the two million and then we're not moving so agents get frustrated with me and they'd be like you know it's August and you haven't moved diamond. I'm like go look at the comparables. We did all the work on this. This player Ryan Whitney is worth two million dollars. That's it. We're not moving so to me. The best chance you have of making the deal is making sure that there's no screwing around with your first offer. Just get it out on the table. Well there's no sense making the player work for money that he's entitled to so if I met one six and you've got to negotiate all summer to get to one eight when you're worth to. How's that GONNA leave us when we're done you don't hear me sour? I'm going to be sick of the process. Let's start off training camp long. Just be fair right out of the gate but then the the player gets greedy and just say no pregnant. Just mentioned Gary Bettman a few minutes ago do you think he gets a bad rap on the fans on both sides of the border. Yeah for sure he does. And it's a shame he's he's done more for this game than you count all the people eagleson. Good now all those Clarence Campbell. John's all these people helped build this team Gary more than all of them combined like he's turned this into a massive industry. It was a mom and pop and remember I. I hear you guys you. You guys weren't even born yet. My first year in Vancouver Eighty seven eighty eight at the end of the year. We had a meeting and we were trying to decide whether the raise the lower bowl tickets from twenty eight bucks. Let's see two twenty nine bucks or thirty bucks lower bowl reds great seats and then that that's in my lifetime. That's team I worked for. That's not got some allegorical story about the sixties. That's a team I worked for and so I look where Gary's taken us with TV and international. Just what we do on the charity side right and just the way. The game has grown with expansion and outdoor game and we're another outdoor game on on Wednesday. It'll be fantastic. Our here burkey. I'd if he gets a bad rap the rest. We're we're actually in Dallas right now. We're here for that so the hour we're gonNA. Hopefully you can get up to Toronto. Get you live in personnel if there is one critique though that you you you would have as far as what the League should chain where they should go. What would it be right now? I don't like the way we're going on on There's too much flag football right now. The Games fast and exciting and good but we need to keep the banging on fighting in this game and bother either U2 that's number one and number two. Luke play too many games that we should go seventy two game schedule. The players play too many games in the products offers. Well now you're on the media side of things. How much do you think the media plays in fact that the game keeps beats altering to to maybe their voice? I thought there was a time. I think that's an excellent question. I think there was a time when when that was the driving factor and I don't think it is now I think it's A lot of it's a concussion. Stuff a lot of it set. The game is getting better and faster. Mr And I do love the game. The way it's played but a lot of nights especially I gotTa Watch Toronto. I see a lot of flag football. I think they've had one fighting major in Toronto this year and I just the way might teams played you know and I know we're not going to go back to that era. I'm not I'm not a dinosaur but I I can't stand up some nightside. They don't they don't even swear each other some nice embarrassing the host talk Burkey I gotta ask you this before we let you go one of the all all time. Classic post-game scrums two thousand and two playoffs against their. I think it was the red wigs. New Sedan is not English for punch me or headlock me into scrub. How bad was the the abuse those guys early in their career especially in that series? Well it was really bad and I didn't have toughness around them yet. We've we've got tougher In that series we couldn't employer toughness properly It was not a problem for them after the first year and a half or so because we had people come in and could take care of stuff like that but early on in Detroit it was all our guys. Even guys weren't tough for doing it and we were getting. We're up to nothing in that series wanted to Detroit and won the first two games thing came home and my owner was really upset about these. They said we told our players back. Then look we're GONNA have to kill an extra penalty every night. This Detroit right. There are a great team referees. Love them we're going to have to kill an extra penalty every night. We did so now. My owner comes to me. We're up to nothing. Says I I want you to rip the officials said I'm not repetitious. were up to nothing. And then we lost that Game Danny Klutzy leading that long ago and we lose them with those game four not. I'm not I I ripped the wrestle show you find thirty grand for that was a long time ago out she Were there during the Stuff correct yeah I mean that was I mean you WanNa talk about that a little bit as a two cents at well I will interrupt a little quickly burke. I'm close friends with Todd. VERTUCCI before we going to the incident how he how dominant was that guy for a couple of a few year stretch. I mean one of the best in the league while about snowy and a very popular popular teammate. This is not a guy that that just you know came and went and did his thing. He was popular with his teammates. Some Volvo team he was a leader. Our I love to have and that's why I brought him now Anaheim. After that I loved having taught on the T- now there's nothing that's two cents to talk about because this has been resolved all I mean. He's todd did what he did was wrong. No question about it but he was he thought misguidedly. I'm sticking up for teammates. So Steve Moore cheap shot in Ashland in game one. There's actually three games in the sequence and in game two We played in Colorado played a board overtime overtime tied. No one went after anybody game. Three Cook so Steve Moore early in the game but the players felt that Steve Moore jumps cookie so they didn't think he'd pay his tab. So Sean pronger came off the bench. He was playing center. I than and he went after Steve Moore. Burt is coming opportunities. Coming back up the ISIS and always starts tapping Steve Moore and chasing the item and finally gets tired of. They won't turn around and suckers mean nothing you can defend their but he was doing it to defend his dear friend in linemate marcus and no excuse but that was his head and we're screaming at them. No no we could see what's happening putting we're up there screaming at him and he was changing. That's why pronger was on. The Sean pronger was on the ice. Instead of Brendan Morrison. No we didn't want to go after Steve Moore four fuck the obviously. The rest is history to transition to another question. I don't know the backstory behind the whole pie thing. What's going WHOA? How did that all start? Yeah well I'm not. People have accused me of try to make a fashion statement. I tell them all the same thing. I'm not smart enough to do that. so I used to go to work when I worked for when our theory was that we would be open for business when the Boston bruins rope and business. That's nine am six. I am an coober so I would go in at six and I go in jeans and a t-shirt and I left all my suits of work tie would come in around seven. We'd spend whatever time he needed needed you know. Tell me what to do. Bring up to speed on this contract and then I go down and work out and then I run up put on a suit and come up while I never tied my tied so I went upstairs. There's and then I didn't tie till I needed to some nights. It was right till gametime. I wouldn't tight all day so it's more laziness than anything and then try to now. I eight title title so there were like that and plus now it aggravates people. So I'M GONNA I was GONNA say that was probably part of the two people keep comedy. You don't fuck you. I'M NOT GONNA time my time. Leave it that forever. Yeah so it's Once I realized that annoyed people that I really started making sure I did. I feel like we could talk to you for hours but there was one thing I did WanNa bring up with you. You've been instrumental in the. You can play project that you launch your son Patrick Combat Homophobia in sports about seven and a half years in now. How much progress have you seen been made in this area? Well I think it's become a lot. Tend to question. Thank you for bringing it up Patrick way more of the work on this than I did and And Katie and molly have been helpful to but I think I measure you can play as a standalone thing and say okay. We've changed this many lives lives. We've changed lots of lives but there's been progress made on lots of funds. There's lots of people fighting this battle right now. It's wonderful to watch so it's much as I told Brendan when he came out to me much better in a young gay male in this day and age than when I was in high school so my high school there are three thousand kids in three classes. Sir Max v Dina High School Three Grades Ten eleven twelve thousand kids and excrete no gay people and I'm like Brennan. Of course Arthur gay people. They're just you took your life in your hands back on so the progress has been made. It's not close to anything like equality or fairness ernest acceptance but the progress that I've witnessed just in the last ten years is really bright in my outlook on where we might get to some. But it's been a little dangerous return I turn on the. US to the last little bit makes me nervous. Well I I really appreciate you coming on Burke we've already taken up too much of your time and maybe we can get together in person because that'd be a great talk so we appreciate you very much for coming on and everyone get a chance in Canada. You can watch them on sports hockey night in Canada and and continue the good work. And we'll see you soon. Thanks let's say a giant. Thank you to Brian Burke for joining us kind of spur of the moment he made some time for us in. Like you guy said. We could've talked to him for hours. We barely scratched the surface of of his gigantic resume. So huge. Thanks to Berkey once again. I I haven't seen in some Milo kerfluffle on social media Bennington and Biba may be a little shootout action. Let's go on on the brother. I think I'll after all these clips of Bieber play with the leafs in scorn. Some goals the holiday I believe in one of the pickup Games bieber had thirteen goals just humble bragging all over over social with a Putin goals were they like legit doc. I think they were Putin goals. Yeah there's some funny stuff. Ra but then been nasty came in on social challenging Bieber. I think he said he'd give him ten breakaways and he wouldn't score one and he said he would die his hair platinum blonde. If you've got one on them and Bieber responded by saying let's up upped the ante ten thousand dollars to my charity of choice. If I end up squeak unbiased so I'm I'm hoping that we can get our hands on on the video the L.. I'm not gonNA say the fucking word this was this was when you saw this. I feel like you got as hard as you could possibly get like. This is your dream basically to be involved in this. Yeah I feel like I popped a twenty milligram of Salis and I've had a hard on ever since so I've been working on the backside here. I've been texting with Austin Matthews Matthews. Being like Gimme Bieber's number. and that ain't had. I've been getting ghosted. Shockingly but no I think it would be fun to see that and I think they should do it in Saint Louis because is I don't know if I told you guys do you think he'd sniffer goal. So he's not the best of skaters. He's he struggled he's a bit of an ankle skater. But it does have good hands from what I've seen so but that could be because he's getting the Putin treatment no one's coming out with aggressive poke checks so mighty Turco in we'll see if we can get a hold of these guys and dial it in. I even message Bennington saying we would we would pay for the the charity donation on his behalf. If we're able to film this so so we'll see where it goes. I'll be playing an alumni game in Saint Louis how I'll be first time. I'm lacing backup plan and organize game since XIV retired. So we're going from the San Jose Barracuda me fighting a Stortini looking like bieber on skates out there skating on my ankles And I'll be Kelly Jason Talking Semaj Shit. He wants to fight you. I think you ought to scrap. Outage think you'd WanNa tilt him right now. I won't even take any skating lessons beforehand. I'm GONNA just go right to the gym and then insert boxing so we can move on from the beaver stuff although going to die hair job have you guys seen the The RINALDO and Lucia with their with their platinum blonde. Hair out there skating and warm-ups. Yeah they look like the natural butch reed out using all he was old school black wrestle with with blonde hair so he called himself the natural has if his blonde meal mantra all time. WWF nickname all right all you wwe Wfan's. 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It's not a hockey interview But Ron is definitely one of the more interesting fellows Apostol I will show hopefully will go to listen. So send it over to Ron Folks Ryan and he's not in town we have not yet not yet yet anyway We didn't have any hockey guests to get on and I thought me anare. Why don't we interview one of the interesting Barstool personalities fantastic idea and we got roan here? I wish I could tell you more but I really don't know much about him. But that's why he's let's. That's his voice right there do you have anything to say to. The Chiklis puts faithful I'm happy to be here. I love your I like your podcast more than I like hockey like. I'm not even a big watcher of hockey but I listened to your show because it's just such it's a good show such a funny show. That's second favourite compliment like after like you know you guys changed my life. That's like yeah. We have some people who have been going through some dark times in the they come up and tell you and your uh-huh but my answer. No depression taught you guys helped me through the worst times in my life so that people say that. That's huge. Because it's like dude I I couldn't imagine. Listen fucking podcasts. For a split. I don't give a fuck about so when people say that. It's like wow man I it's it's it's humble and it's a great compliment very humbling as well as your your column. It was but we're here to talk about you and one of the interesting things about this guy. Is he battle raps. I would say that's what he's known for by me coming coming to Boston Boston with three as you said right right. We're on what December nineteen right. Now you're what thirty one years old she got here. Twenty eight how long you batter up for. How did you get into it? Like look give us a little background. I bat up was on my twenty first birthday. It was scheduled to be on my twenty first birthday up here in New York and I had never really battle title rat before. I never even wanted to be about a rapper. Like you think this is something you get into eighteen sixteen young. I wasn't even a rat fan. I was listening to like John on mayor and shit like that and I was listening to saw John. So how does it like what triggers it. How does it like okay? Why do you like where does it stop was the went on the Internet? It was probably like two thousand six or like a freshman in college at Penn State and I just searched every fight that I could find on. You watched all the fights on youtube exhausted them then. I was like what other combative things can satisfy my eighteen year old. Little Horny mind and I put on. I just typed in rap battle like dead out of nowhere just started watching rap battles on Youtube. You too fell in love with watching them and then this famous rapper came to Penn State and had a battle with him backstage. It was all world star hip hop the next day. Two thousand six two two thousand seven numbers. It's like seven hundred thousand views and it was like did you mom I I get it. I'm GonNa wrap now just so so I watch all of them. I watch the CIPHERS. I love rap. Keep up with all the drama to like. I'm not I don't talk about publicly but I of course I tell all my closest versus friends one of my biggest dreams. I'd love to be a rapper dude. And I think that I think eventually maybe write lyrics. And maybe get some beets and like play around with that but it that's a whole nother set of balls and yes. That's why tip of my cat to you bro. That is ball's well. So how battle rapping works is. It's like you're in a silent room with like three hundred to three thousand people just standing around you as you hurl insults at the person. Just it's not even a beat on in the background. You prepare your lines you write it beforehand and you just stand across from someone and try to insult them until they like punch you in the face and they do the same to you. Has that ever happened. I mean I always say how someone not getting suckered during these things. Is that implied. That no one's GONNA punched out. What percentage of of these lend lead to violence? I think it's a really low percentage. I put it at one percent or less than what battles. Yeah that's crazy. So they respect the a process like look you know. I mean they're a perimeter set like when you don't go here on this guy I don't go here and the guy was like no you go on that guy. 'cause you know it's GonNa fuck it. I used to ask the guys beforehand. I'd I'd be like how are we doing this. Is there anything you don't want me to talk about. And most of the time the answer is take the gloves off. And it's like that I will do. Oh Man then I wind up saying some really mean gene stuff to these guys just like. Is there anything that anyone said to you. That is like Oh my God. How did they get that information? Well I mean it's not it's never never I mean for me. It hasn't been real information. I don't have that much like actual real dirt on me. Since I did go to Penn state they turned it into this huge angle. That like I I got fucked by Jerry. Sandusky specifically and for about twenty battles would go into like specifics about how this happened to me. It didn't happen to me. I'll that'd be a fucking if it did because I be getting that fucking heyman money show because of the initial comment people actually thought that guy dug that up on you and it was. It was factual the way that he presented. It was so believable that the world afterwards like people in England I was like going to England overseas to Australia letters. Touchdown at Penn State. Right they really are dead asked but they thought he was like a track coach or whatever they thought he was sidetracked coach. Who molested me? It's crazy did it bug you that this scenario was oh or were you able to laugh because it was so clever that he made a believable and it became this thing where you're like. Yeah like I mean. It's funny but it didn't. It didn't happen so the first time I got tight about it because I was like what the Fuck 'cause I talked to the guy beforehand about the battle. I was like Bro. Let's keep it like nothing. Personal no made up stories. 'cause I thought that he might talk about that Shit. I was like. Whoa oh you have to establish no made up stories? I because I thought that this fucking I knew he knew about fan theories or some shit and someone had tried to sabotage me online like Photoshop. In my face onto this ship it goes so fucking deep but the first time I got ta I was hung over to begin with and then my face kinda soured and and And like everybody in the comedy like do look at his face changed definitely realize they took me being pissed off about it as an admission of me Hannigan at salutes. What's right there? S Like Jerry Sandusky. But after that like the after that it's almost just like are you. Are we seriously like really talking about this fake thing like I can laugh laugh at it or like I automatically deduct points in my mind from the other person. If they're saying that it's not creative. It's not true. There's probably means true stuff that you could like find. Yeah Yeah I mean I don't save you fucking followed the case at all. He didn't Fuck Penn state students. Charity that he fucking used a fucking specifically get kids for traditionalist be like why the fucker you even asking go there on anything like it should be gloves off like is what would people argue about. Maybe the the rules in our this this this culture where they argue about the rules of it. I think that You know these guys who you're battling against the intimately it's like you're going on a like a hockey trip with your squad squad and you know that these guys are all going to be in the same hotel you're going to be hanging out after the event partying together. You're spending time together so you have more personal relationships rather than and it just this person from across the world that you don't know shit about like if I don't know shit about the I'm not gonNA ask him but if I know the person decently well say like what are the rules of engagement here. Okay Ah I got a question for you because we could have I guess some under some undercover. What do you call rap battle? People who know all everything about this right. I know who the Michael Michael Jordan. The eight mile of my rap now the Michael Jordan of underground rap battle as names Rhone. So you're you're you're like number one I I don't know if I'm like the Michael Jordan. I might be like the Larry Bird though. That's that's even better for you. All right yeah you know what I mean but I won Mike Championship. So you know like there's like different leagues like the One League is primarily out of Toronto. It's like it's called King of the Dot T. Dot and that's the league that I like dominated dominated. I wanted to change championship chains there but like there's definitely been stretches of my career where people have said that. I'm like you know like I'm one of the best in the world for sure. So how how many. How many do you do now a days? How often do you do? It didn't it. Didn't you take like a long time. On hiatus made out of like two years of hiatus between so I two title matches in a row. Oh that I won or lost the belt that the title of the chain did you think you deserve to lose out one. I mean it's it's interesting with rap battles because it's so subjective objective of an art that you can tell beforehand when people want to see there be a change of power and I kind of felt that so it was like I is acquitted myself myself well but at the same time like it was time for someone else to come in there which I was okay with because I had this whole barstool situation to box. No way man you gotta courage. Who has a you know predisposition from Nevada on the take then you know it can affect everything? Wow that's interesting so you would have no problem communicating that in the guy you play Faced off against would be like like. Hey I I thought I had you there but they whatever it's all good he said wasn't me. He thought that you perform them. He's a guy yeah. He's a guy from Harlem guy named head is that was I mean. He's like a legend but he's I after the battle like it was kind of. It's kind of better tradition. That I've been a part of you have a drink with the guy that you just battled you know what I mean after tidal title match you kind of share drink and talk about it and he kind of expressed to me like yeah because see how they would have given it to you in that situation and it was just like an intimate conversation between the two of us and he he knew what the situation was as well and he's he's famous for his authenticity is like a real street. Dude he talks about St Shit and a beautiful poetic way which is very different. They will do it but he's incredible. Yes exactly is very similar to that. But he's a he's a Harlem. Do take a as opposed to Queens Guy. But he's like a legend for that so I'm just a different. It's just a different flavor. You know what I mean is what flavor do you prefer is subjective. I would imagine you're doing this for the love of it but not a lot of cash in it for the top people. There's like maybe they'll be making like fucking forty thousand a for one battle. I know what I mean and you like maybe Tau they sell tickets to the People Wanna go tickets people go. There's paper views that people are doing for this stuff. But it's like you're not gonna they do like ten forty thousand dollar battles in a year. You'll be doing one of those in a year because creatively you can't you can't produce that much right. I'm going to take time. That's another another another aspect. I I wanted to go through your training routine. It's like you're you are a boxer. I am yeah. I'm like it's like mental boxing but I am just thinking about this man. It's like I'm writing owed but like the opposite of that. I'm just writing something really. Nash showed exactly every little thing I can think of about this dude and Mike. How can I flip that into something bad so I'm categorizing Adda Garage? All these interactions I've ever had with done in my life just like your puppet as fucked up isn't that but it's like I only do it with the glorified glorified You know when you're on the street corner like rank and I grew up in a city always every kid and that's how you got shop. Don't fucking ranking on each other. But it's like it's like an elevated form of that you know if you want someone to fight with you if you're trying to instigate someone like the Kinda Shit that you would say to them it's just like if you just thought about that and turn it into like these beautiful poems like what kind of Shit would you say to get under. Someone's skin to try and like what's going to bother someone what's GonNa make everybody else. Look at them differently. Started getting into it. How long till you found your rhythm and what are you? Thought you sounded founded the coolest because one thing that I would struggle with I ever got sacked up and try something. You gotta find your flow. Yeah Yeah and sometimes like the first time I did it I I did it way different in the ring then like all my friends afterwards. We're like Whoa Dude. That's not how you practice it like that was pretty cool. My came out naturally. You're actually but more aggressive than I had ever a practice that or whatever. 'cause it's just the heat of a moment yeah just brought. It brought the best. There's people surrounding you. It's like a grade school type schoolyard. Where everybody's on top of you and just like routing talking shit but that could also bring bad nerves out of you where you sounded worse yet because the nerves took over it and your sense it Kinda jacked you up where it made it made you save more with more passion right and people have like thrown up during their rap battles? The anxiety is for sure all a lot of people we and we said. Did I had a talk at a wedding this summer. Right and the whole day Even the day before I had those butterflies and I didn't I just wanted to fucking go there and have a few cocktails and smoke a few joints and bring home one of the fucking bridesmaids didn't WanNa have to worry about a speech. I couldn't say no so I did it and I was fucking nervous day did you. Could you enjoy the wedding. And no and said and you're also in a room and people who want you to succeed Eden and they're probably GONNA clap no matter how bad you are. You're but you're in fucking rap battle where majority the audience wants to see you. Land flat on your face. Yes yes and they're looking any chance ago all like to be dug up on me to they want to hear something mean about you. Want to hear that the other Guy Bet your mom over over and they they get that you know I mean. They're definitely say all that I told you I please please stop looking my opponents. You like do anything before your foyer and smoke drink shrink or anything. You want completely sober so I enjoy smoking weed from time to time but before a rap battle. I don't try not to have a drinker to just two car nerves nerves but like for smoking. I don't I don't have that focus and also I don't have that like killer instinct where I wanna be in. Somebody's face you know what I mean. I kind of want to be on on their ass and just like screaming down their throat. And I don't want these feelings of butterflies in peace and love floating through my mind. That's not me at that time. I need to be on on edge. You know what I mean. We need to be revved up. But I've tried it all. G was what alcohol wood alcohol. Whatever they got both whatever's local? You know what I mean to your like the superstitious guy. Now now. It's just just like these places are fucking bummy as hell. You're not making that much money. You take whatever you can get your pretty well known in the rap community Your body's with like John Maher get the fuck Outta Outta here really so bachelor party with him. But I mean I was like his want some residual kills me. I mean sorry g well. Who's the coolest person that that like this life? This battle rap lifestyle has led you to meet and hang out with at least I mean like the John Maher was incredible. Like Dave Chapelle like through that same name Bachelor Party. We like kind of. WHO's Bachelor Party was this guy named Jensen Karp? He was the executive producer of this show that I wrote on in California that where celebrities battle at each other but he's also like a pretty good friend of mine and so he's friends with all these he's like a Hollywood fucking you know legend in Hollywood. He's like an executive producer. And he he just mind I. It's interesting because you're in a room with these people who are at the top of their game right. Yeah Yeah and you're at the top of your so they probably appreciate you just as much as as you appreciate them. The only difference being is that your industry is just not that lucrative yes. There's not that popular unless you can transfer that over to writing your own songs Have you ever tried that. I've written music. I've I've written my own music and I've tried like the ghost writing thing like I've written I've like submitted music for like the roots before and I submitted like versus for two thousand ten or some shit like that when like a producer of his like asked me to try some shit but never like it never took for whatever reason corrupton album though. Didn't you draw drive three albums. They've all done decently well in the I tunes charts. But it's like they're just not a ton of money to be made in like streaming music music would you. Would you say you became more successful on I tunes and mets. Let's say it may be a Sammy Adams. Not an I tune his music his more would probably popped off more than mine definitely popped off more than minded but like a battle rap is just a different. It's almost different. Discipline is that where he came out of the battle rap. No He's not outta battle he's ever done really bad. One that people would know of who came out of battle rapping other than of course the one of the goats I would say. A LOTTA RAP is probably socket battle rapping rapin right and everyone will say that they like I mean like Grenell. You asked what guys I've met like. Drake is a guy that I met through battle rap that was like he says he watches. Is it all the time. And like he was close to doing it to to battle rapping guys. Does it in his lyrics. Yeah yeah he's very he if he's the type of guy he goes over the top. You say okay one bad thing. He's just waiting for you. Swing comes from him studying the kind of snow. Drake like the biggest celebrity in the world. Did he was so nice to me. Like I met him at a press conference as he walked in everybody's like the Red seas or partying and I was doing interviews for a website called battle dot com. At the time I just had the MIC in my hand and he walked up to me like and got like the biggest smile on his face Kinda his body language opened up he was like Yo like acting like I had like like he knew me and like I have been. He's just as the respect gregarious You know it's such a like warm guy it's like it's cool to see someone that talented and the drake thing I mean you know traditionalist and and maybe old school hip hop fans hate how mainstream. It's become an and but I mean men he he's at the top right like the most people are consuming his music. I I do how do you. How do you feel about the fact that it's become so mainstream that they maybe don't have the respect that the older guys get I think that there is The mainstream it's it's a blessing curse because you're able to transcend whatever types of ceilings are on top you once you hit that mainstream you're out of the hip hop world in your into so much more money any but at the same time like you will lose out in respect and I think that that's what all about apps about it's like you're you're getting respect for your lyrics and you won't be getting that money respect. It's almost like you make the decision that you're going to focus on these on Tundras or like these really mean things people say about our APPS and it's like you you almost have to give up one to get the other but It's I I I don't mind. The there are a lot of people who respect it. I want to go back to the TV. Show from minutes you out of a writer's room out in Hollywood. Yes I mean. It seemed that that's something like when I was in college. I didn't even know that was the fucking option back. Then it's like the and everything you always hear about. These things saw like now for celebrity batter APPs. They must have been like okay. Here's a list of what. Oh you can't say about this person right on. Yeah exactly. So how how. How does that okay do this thing? You're awesome mad but you can't do eight through fucking Z.. Yeah it was tough because you would right these vicious lyrics or like these beautiful rhymes games that you knew would like crushing a real life battle like this would destroy somebody. But then the person's publicist or the studio or their ego or they think that this is crossing that's like anything corporate. Yeah so and and I mean that goes back to being with barstools doors. Like that's why I think it's keeps growing and growing like there's no holding back it's like we don't care if it doesn't land and we're not going to appease everybody we get that but it's showing that it's on the rise right. There's a demand for that exactly and no one's telling you know but in this case some people will be telling you know and there were even instances where certain celebrities liberties walked off the set. There like this shit is despicable like. I can't believe you even showed me this. Copy to read and they would just fucking lead. Yeah you missed the name of the fucking Chilean dummy. Yeah Right. It's a battle that like. What are they supposed to talk about? What's the show called? Drop the MIC drop the MIC. I thought it was gonna be the one that nick cannon was a part of. Wow then now while now is that similar. So that that's a little bit more there are a lot of battle rappers. Do that and the guy who I most recently battled was on wild and out but also they have on you. That's like AAC fucking. PG Bullshit that's well. They offered me the job six times. And that's the amount of seasons that this guy has had his job so it was basically like okay. Well whatever not chance no I mean no. I was the first option to go on while the now I said no so. They took option B.. which was this guy who I just battled who? I just whipped his ass right. But I'd imagine that was probably probably financially a good decision for for him that you declined it. Would that have been a part of maybe selling out. Yeah I think that that could be an angle to it. What I think? He's making working for that show he while he's making less than I think that showed notoriously underpaid wild announced famous for their guys like a thousand dollars an episode. So everyone's getting their episodes. How much do you think nick cannon's making that do nick cannon's cake and Bro? That guy's got the America's got talent money go got all the money advocates advocates. So so I have a bit of a problem with that Nikki. And here's here's where I have a bit of a problem with that is like I kind of like everybody eating. I agree with that. And he he kind of in some ways he eats off the fat of like like a lot of battle rappers come onto his show. That's what I'm saying. And they make fun of him even during their wraps on the shows rose for being like kind of a cheap guy or underpaying them. He's I mean that's only for so long where it's like Nick Cannon's probably worth over a hundred million. He's wiping aspirin checking into the two hundred six. How much do you think he's worth? I guess so I have. I have like I don't know why some people may say fuck it. Whatever he's making his dough and what does he you care? But I have a bit of a problem with that. I agree and I mean. How many times can you make Mariah Carey joke? We're on fifteen seasons and they're making the same jokes about the same subjects. You know what I mean. There's A but it serves a purpose within the hip hop community and the fact that these guys who are battle rappers who don't get a lot of opportunities are making it onto TV. And like getting that chance. I don't even like even if you're not getting paid a lot making it onto TV when you don't have lots of opportunities to do that is huge for you. It has already been set up like the League. Were this was like a traveling circus like maybe you could start at kind of like. WHO's table Paul rebel? Like Lacrosse League type thing like why. Would you be the commissioner of of where you can organize this and now August would be like teams or something like that. or how'd you shouldn't they should do. It should be our main tournament that you should beat the Vince McMahon of it. And now you can make it more lucrative when and you can get all your buddies paid and everyone can have a great time so there are leagues where it is kind of established to really or maybe two or three really big leagues and then they're smaller smaller leagues below that and those big leagues are the ones that are paying these like top dollar prizes for everything and beneath that or all the other leagues but there are a lot of leagues already but not not a Lotta people have done teams. Not a lot of people have done tournaments and a lot of the battles aren't even like judged outwardly because people's Egos are so fragile that they don't like to get told that they lost arap battle so they'll just be like. I'm not doing it unless it's not judge so a lot of it will fall to the court of public opinion. Do you think that they could rent out. A venue where it would be like a bracket so that people booker go there in the morning and be there all day to where it was. Let's say it was a round of sixteen. They used to do that. So this was there was something in two thousand eight called the world rat championships. Kerr and there were two onto battle rappers and they would do it for an entire day and it was mostly free style and the guys were going back and forth some guys. We're starting to write. It was the beginning of the written era but the problem of all being in one day was the first set of battles was incredible. The first round was awesome. And then the last round when everybody's mentally fatigued Petillo and out of material the championships the worst round so it was like from a tournament perspective. You want the competition to get better so for that to work. They might have to spread it out rather than doing it. It just in one day and then it kind of turned into an endurance thing rather than who's the most skilled rapper. Wow that was such sick breakdown there. Hell Yeah I mean I definitely have thought about it. Well I think it would be rude not to talk about EMINEM. I mean he's got to be one of your influences so I watched eight mile and I never thought about bound wrapping after that. I didn't think like oh I got back because of this like I just started battle rapping until I saw the shit way later down the line but I do have like the utmost respect for his like ability to rhyme. And like one thing that I do like see a similarity in it. He loves to rhyme like moldable syllables at once. And I think that that's like a Cool like part of battle rap like being able to unlock like a series of words that rhyme perfectly right. He's one of the best at that. And now I don't don't think it's appreciated enough under these new rappers and I think that maybe that's where he he becomes like the grumpy old man a little bit because he's like I had to fuck in work to to become better at C.. J. Cole's very similar. Where like you could tell? This is like a Kendrick Lamar's well like he's trying to get better at this with the wordsmith side of it as as well as put together this beautiful music and also have something meaningful to say and there aren't many of them and then when these guys seeing these other guys like Takeshi. Six Nine gitten and three times as many streams. It's like what the fuck is this. This is what this is about yet. It turns into a marketing contest sometimes rather than about being skilled but at some points like that. That's what's GonNa win out. Some people just want the look rather than wanting the actual skill level. Speaking of the freestyle. You went into it with Rudy when you were out Oakland battle. What goes through your head when you're freestyle? Like how do you put that together. 'cause I thought the answer is really interesting like so went up. Free styling is almost different than like if I'm doing a rap battle it's kind of pre written some accessing something that I've memorized but like a freestyle. If I'm just coming off the top of my head. Both of the answers to that is. I'm thinking of what happens next so I'm trying to think of the word that I want to end on and then I'll go backwards and say let me find something that rhymes with this. So it's almost like you WanNa plan for the punchline to be the second thing so the most impactful thing you have to think of first and then go back and kind of find something that rhymes with but that's almost like speaking a different language and you're accessing. What you want to say in French while you're thinking of it in English? Is that how you developed a battle rap or do other people find another other way in order to present their information through battery up because like that's how your mind found out how to work it right. I think that there are some people sometimes. Maybe you think of the the secretary so like a word sentence that comes right after the word that you just rhymes maybe you want to just take it right into that and then find something that rhymes with that afterwards a stall tasks like an AB versus a be a you know what I mean like you can pick which one you wanNA come up with I but if you have the punchline be the one you thought of more than that's is going to be more impactful while I was GonNa ask you. Do you have certain things that you can always fall back on. In case you do get stuck on a thought. Yeah I think all freestyle rappers have have like crutch rhymes and stuff like that. They already know like that. rhymes like chocolate. Chip in rocket. Ship are always gonNA rhyme about. How bad is it like? And when you're fucking fizz out is the worst feeling I do it on the radio broadcast and I turn myself right after I doc Magin. There's a term for in in broadcasting. I always forget the name of it. But it's essentially like falling off the branch. Yeah like a brain fart. Yeah can you just lose it and that has happened to me a couple of times in actual rap battles when I wrote the shit and I forget the script and it's pretty much the worst feeling that you can have that nightmare maybe a naked like it real real life. Unlike the couple of times I've done it and I've just like continued to freestyle so I'm just at least wrapping but a couple of times. I was so fucked up mentally. I just stopped hot and I was like fuck. It's GONNA come back to any second and I just couldn't access it in my brain and it was just like what the fuck is and then the next second feels like it was five and then the second after that feels like he was fifteen. And then your anxiety goes Asha more. So then you have a second round or third round that you still have to do and you can't can't act like you're mentally defeated which you are like you just shit the fuck embed. Everybody knows it but then you have to pretend that you didn't shit the bed and just hop back in and just start swinging swinging again. Have you ever came back rocky style. Where you you fucked up and then you came back and I mean people have done that? I've never happened so infrequently lead. I guess you could argue that. I did win those like there was there was like those were judge so there was like one battle. Like one of the judges voted for me after the show that I still want or like there was one where two judges voted for me. So I guess you can't come back like I've seen it happen before but it's so tough when the energy get sucked out of the room and it's just fucking doc in dead in there and everybody just waiting for you to say something and you have nothing to say. It kills the vibe so much that it's almost impossible to come back. Are you able to I. I mean yeah like you on the next battle after that is that's when you when you visit the battle just ends there like that's it. It's like when you come back in the third round but it's like you're you're not you're gonNA come back and finish your ship. People aren't going to think you want right. Opinion isn't going to side with you so I mean I could talk about this too but I think people might WanNa gotta have other other aspects of around here from Philadelphia. Yeah no boats. It's incredible you said. Sorry no I said sorry. Yeah we KINDA got all mine. Yeah no no I was saying. Sorry before I when I smoke weed I do interviews. I like to dive into certain things because I want to get the psychological aspect of something that I don I know nothing about and then I really respect and I don't have the balls to do do you're welcome to delve into the site. I don't WanNa get more shallow shallow and I'm going to dive into it or oh I met personally. I would personally dive into it. You would definitely need more time. I think we've gotten enough so far. Or but what do you WanNa talk about as far as phillies concern. No I didn't bring up Philly I just say. What were you doing fork before? BOSTON'LL I was I mean bat was like I was like cobbling cobbling together a living through battle rap. I had Like I did this. I was working for another content. Creating company out of Philadelphia was called. It was very small. There was like fucking six people that work there But there was a ton of money it was just a rich guy who wanted to start up like a new vice or something like that and failed miserably but like I got a couple of checks off them or whatever remains shitty content and then writing for TV show like I was shooting a bunch of pilots with MTV and Shit like that at the time like it was either going to be that route. And then I really. I wanted to work good barstool. I was trying to work at Barstool and they wouldn't let me fuck and work here. Let me just fucking get a job over here. And then eventually they let me. I think it was say who who wouldn't let. Are you understood how the battle rap sheet could translate so I was just lake applying to just like let me a writer limited right about the sixers or sure enough to do what the battle rapping was. Scott I would have been like yeah. Let's see what you offer but I think they didn't understand the translation and I hadn't won the championship at that point so it was probably just like this guy's just like white rapper or something like that. There's probably a stigma attached to it. That may or may not have been true but I think that's probably what slowed my entry but eventually got my ass in here. Was it. Smitty got uman correct yes media. I was like apply. When Mo- left I was trying to be They said they were hiring a second guy in Philly so I applied like like a bunch and they said it was down to one or two people wound up being Jordi. Who is You know hockey is higher. But the then when they moved to New York I was like. Oh this is is my opportunity. There's going to be more money so I hit us many again. I was sending him sixers blogs house. Like you're right about the sixers I don't give a fuck. Let me get a foot in the door. Because I had a journalism degree I was like let me right. I don't give a fuck and so eventually I worked my way so for those who don't follow you. What type of things do you do now for bars too? I mean I have have the have the sixers blogs continued so it's less sixers coverage right now I mean I still root root root for the home team Bro But but your interests are elsewhere. Swear my interests are all over the place so we just we do a lot of college football videos. We just finished up a series called concussion. Protocol my friend Caleb I. He's the fucking man's hilarious. His videos are just absolutely fucking brilliant. You guys have great chemistry together and I actually couldn't tell the two apart when I was first started. We look very different. No I know all but I didn't know whose name was was like those two guys that are always together. I don't know yeah exactly know Jerry exactly the same exact shit but So and then I do a radio show the Yak Dan. That makes me wonder what else I could do. We have a fantasy football podcast in here that hank can I do together. You travel quite a bit as well travel a bunch whenever we need any kind of video. I'm out there but put me on the fucking road. Let me get a video going and I'm always trying to do more stuff off with content too. I just like being creative. That's where it all comes down to so good about this place like I always compare it to read mad magazine and like Reading National Lampoon in in those places like let let you do what you want to go. There were no limits and like Dave Erica. The only thing really rule we have on checkout. Says you can't fucking sue. The advertises is which is done no shit war and politics race rule. Yeah we don't talk about that anyways to talk about but it's like no me his. Here's here's your here's your platform paint. Whatever the fuck you want and like as a as a creative person oddest whatever the fuck you want a class salvage? It's awesome man is places the balls and some people get it some. Some people don't but like I I kind of think we're in that same spirit as mad and nationally. Why carry on that tradition? I would say it's a it's an online. SNL You can. You can create your own a little sense same. NBC's An and it's great. And I am so grateful for because it's gotten to the point now where if if I do get an idea in my brain I can go to Erica. David and say I want to do this and I'm usually. I'm getting the okay to do it as long as you that you show them that. You're putting the effort forward and that obviously let me see if you if you have a couple of messes. They might start being like. Hey like you know. We're getting some pushback by advertisers. Whatever it may be if you can show up and perform and get it done but if you sell a billion cases of fucking liquor than people might be more inclined to give you a little bit of leeway with your idea? That's one thing and that was one thing that when I originally brought it to them they shut down. I had to be persistent about that. I had to get Ryan Whitney on board. But I don't blame them for that because they have a million other things work. I work on on and build out and set up infrastructure for where things like that. Maybe like a quick no because they weren't feeling that day because they're fucking desk was fucking all the way up to here Now we got the the pond hockey tournaments this is gonNA be. That's GONNA be a fucking blast at. Hey if anyone credible maybe fucking maybe you can put the blades Donna. Come out but it's cool because now with our fans and that's just like another sector of of what's going on here and and it's all of it stems from these fucking crazy ideas ideas in our head like we should do this all right. Let's do it and it's there's no corporate bullshit it's simple as that and maybe just like the first time they might say no just not knowing how serious you are about about it but if you keep on asking like there's a pretty good chance it's just going to get done. Nobody wants to see me fucking skating bro. I have baby giraffe ankles broken. My Shit will jaw. I would say at least he has skated. You know what I mean. He's had a successful skate. Broke my shit. Would just it would be like you have skinny legs. Jesus Christ I don't know what to do about pro. I don't know I mean I really don't know tell me about it. I pray that nobody throws a fist that you when you're up there fucking battle break a leg. Just snap my ankle and badly so smart enough to avoid that Shit. You know what I mean like you know up until now yeah fuck a better be now. Everybody knows about how skinny my leg arm the whole roundabout airport look up on the news of the. Oh Shit. That's what you got shot. He got shot battle. He got probably should have gone out. So you want big guy. We ever fly gynecologists used to I used to be a huge flyers guy and I I used to go to so many flyers games because my best friend. A kid named Tom. Leonard had great tickets and we were like in Seventh Grade Gona Flyers Games and like we were the obnoxious Philly fans. We would sit like fucking. I remember like making Nikolai Hobby. Boone's life Hell Bro. I would sit behind him. Maybe six six rose off the ice and I will just be screaming for fucking three periods. Boone Ooh just over and over again. I know I was the biggest asshole. Tell me if he heard me. Do you think that someone just screaming the time here you. Okay we'll hear your flexing right right now by being that fan. Who thinks he got in in one of the opposing players was our seniors old? At the time I was thirteen years old time all right but but also I I want to go back and check his numbers in that building at the games that he played against the flyers. 'cause I WANNA I wanNA know if you did get in his ear and he knew what you were that we could look that up Bronco probably find on it but I think that that's a terribly obnoxious. Now that I've been in a in a Reno where I could be heckled. I have realized is it. That's probably not a good thing to do. You know what I mean. Come full circle but at at the time I'm saying I was manager Obnoxious Asshole I completely agree. I agree with you and that's how I felt when I got into media and broadcasting is maybe out when I was a player I'd be a little bit critical and watching a game in a play by play guy would have a blunder since I joined the industry. I am like you guys. Do not get enough fucking credit for the amount of pressure that's on you you're on live TV. V If you find stumble or say the wrong thing. You're then you're worried all my God. Am I gonNA get fired like people. People aren't sympathetic at the fact that so many people who are on live. TV are eventually going to fuck up where it's like Yo- that's like a world lacks empathy. Paul it's it's crazy because you just have never been through it. You know what I menu haven't lived are you. Are you a little bit more sympathetic to the media members I know I am because like I don't know maybe I'll have that Shitty tweet one day which was a bad. Take that everyone's hammering on on your four or you might be on the wrong side of something where like people are really upset all showed. I mean we listened to my show enough. I mean I fucked up all the time so yeah I mean I. I'd never give ship to people fucking up. I'm not the most eloquent guy all the time. So what do you have anything in in store in new on like what's what's what about. What about punk like what's the future of that? Fuck do not talk about. That's why would spur them on. Dude I seen you guys. I'M GONNA stroke off if I went to that show at the House of Blues Dude Food. I'm you know these guys have sounded good for the way it came together for the way it came together was spur of the moment. And you know the whole Smitty Frankie thing but a frankie was clearly fucking a great a drummer Mike Smitty at an injury. It was like it sucked. But they had. They had their both drummers and they were trying to get the job at first and then when Smitty Flat Rafa Rowdy defunct shoulder up and he couldn't play at a level that they needed in the playoff. What turns Frank Borelli can hit the skin? I don't know that there was a whole thing. I'm down here. I don't know the whole what what would it be seen. How Smitty maybe he got fucked by Sheriff people some people say I don't know I don't give them fuck but the bottom line is bringing them? Borelli was the right move because Borelli is unbelievable believable and he was better at that time so does get the best band they brought him Borelli. Anyways I saw you guys at Boston. Let let them start the whole story and what what exactly we're talking Komo. Is you kind of got deepen their with Jerry. Rawlings and pop punk. The boscell owned fits right so we have a lot of hockey follow Barstool punk cover Rabanne little pop punk cover band where it's like a you know how like in green or like green day like blink. One eight eighty two type music where they just kind of like wear makeup like wine about how they hate their parents parents and shit like that. That's the kind of music that were Kinda parodying like. We're kind of just giving a little. They make your you guys make your own. We have some of our own songs. You know what I mean. Some of our own music videos radios and a bunch of covers in the show but it's all barstool employees. That's the that's not commentary Robbie Fox and Frank Borelli. That's a pretty big combo. Hello there and and what are your original songs called. We have a song called my real girlfriend about this girlfriend. Who is totally real? She just lives in in a different state and you just never met her but she's he's really exists. Song called called just one Christmas which is for us. Poor kids whose parents never got divorced. Kid Dude I that's all the other our kids get to just one Christmas tough and it's a sad song for kids that only Would that have a parent who never got divorced. we have We have a song of the summer We have just we have a bunch of hits back to school tonight like a bunch of children right like you guys didn't think you were going to be it. Still is a joke joke like anyone that takes it seriously is like you're selling out irving getting at so as we know what the stat so they did a couple of shows in New York and the places went not so so I went to see these guys. They really that good and I was side stage. I felt like I was like if you took me from a different planet blindfold me and told me are at the biggest rockstars in America. America right now I would have bought bought talked very generous. I'm not the most oversell but I'm telling you you guys had that Rockin you guys were fucking so maybe so maybe you will be of drake size. Just not in the rap. I think that as being very generous maybe maybe just pop punk is just not that. Great if he's he's exactly it's easy to is easy of his donder ground route game pops more lucrative around graph game show. Show play fun songs. That are fun to sing along with and there are some talented guys in the band. Especially considering that it's like therefore thing that they're gonNA is the adrenaline better pop punk shore short battle rap rap battles way higher adrenaline. I'm scared crap out around. You know what I mean but you know it's the same thing but it's for a pop punk show is the same thing as your wedding toast. Everyone wants you to do well. Everyone's there to have a good time. They're not there to argue with you to your face. They're not they're exactly and if you mess up nobody gives us more about about you at the battle whereas with pop punk show with four years. Yeah your one chance and you probably don't want to have a song in the oven right now Do we should make one. I don't no. We should make like a Omar to you guys owed to you guys I know. How can I want a pink Whitney track? I don't know if I WANNA go when we talk about so I was thinking about doing a rap and then I reached out to Brett Kissel. Because he's a he's a another guy who's in the music game but it's country. Maybe we could do it so mike. Twangy Pink Whitney Country Rassam Old Town Road Shane or something. Yeah I love it. I would absolutely love it. Or what's your girl's name Susan. Or some Shit Cindy Cindy we'll get some shady cindy music going on Roy I would love it. It's Shitty Sydney to Cure Bailey's style but Do it the Shitty Cindy any roles music coming German anytime soon. I don't have anything Plan but in in over the break. Maybe I'll I'll go to the studio and and You know have have something cooked up. Maybe I'll work on something coming coming up. I don't know though I mean I'd say this will be received better than the hinge ads. So at least we're we're ahead of something fucked up. He's he. Thanks for coming on your very interesting fellow and we hope we hope the underground rap game becomes like EA sports. You fucking fucking really pop up crushing blow. These guys are making three million dollars to play so It'll be incredible all right. Let's thanks a lot Ron's been fun Big Next to a road at Boscell headquarters and by the way his name is Adam for in case. You're curious I mean. Everybody knows a mandarin but his his name is Adam for own ridiculously. Xhosa talented fellow. We love talking. I'm hopefully you guys enjoyed that Back to the ice over in Whitney's Oldie Decay Gel. We had probably one of the worst suspensions and Do get tapped on the Yom. He was a Finnish guide. Defenseman Yuki Yoki POKKA. He got two games. What's happened a guy on his shoulder pad Biz says man? I mean there was this crazy. What probably the worst suspension I've ever seen and the fact that I did? He get kicked out of the game originally notch guys. When I say love tap this was this was a grace I think you could one handed like like? Swipe I did. It's insane there would have been more force if you hawked up lougee especially because you can spit pretty good. I know fit all my arm as hard as you could. That would have been harder than this guy. Got Whacked on the arm the biggest joke I would imagine that this is. I like to get eager on. Explain this one. That's what I'd like laughing. Face what Biz. They're playing Saint Petersburg and there is your plan sky and if you touch someone on and maybe like is there any chance. That guy broke his fingers Salomao. I have no idea. But you're on Saint Petersburg and you You take any any sort of slash or hit and that guy is going to be suspended after the game that we own a body cast. You think the fact he was in fact that fact is in in the Russian League witted. All can't say for suspense gay I would. I wouldn't I wouldn't answer. I wouldn't know how to answer that one. Maybe anything possible. I feel like in the suspension room. It he's like a scene out of that show turn Oberle is that what was that. The name of the show that came out the four hundred talking on unreal. Yeah but there's definitely one of those meetings where it's like. Hey we're going to do something something that's wrong and we're not going to explain ourselves. We're just GONNA nothing happened and move on Dole. The mountain allies until the Swedes starts getting cancer for some reason by these clouds in the sky. Correct there we go. Has the problem Yorkie all right. Hey listen up in case you haven't heard yet bet. MGM is the home for spitting check. Let's for sports betting this year. The same guys that bring you the world's most spectacular casino resorts and top notch. Entertainment have a new sports. BETTING APP in New Jersey can download the APP deposit and checkout lines from anywhere in the world old. But you have to be in the garden state to place all your pets. That's New Jersey. I'm going to say through more times this week. We've got another off a new customers on the bet. Mgm Sports Apple and used a bonus. Go go check. Let's watch. This is what I have to go to Jersey for this one. 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Where as much as I shit on them they are like a global global power the NBA? I didn't understand that he built. He got them there and when he took over it was in shambles and in so credit to him. Because a lot oughta players said some really nice things on whatever shacks at some nice and it was just Sad news to hear because I think he he had a brain hemorrhage a couple couple of weeks ago. Ra right before. Christmas December seventeenth terrible. I mean I've been watching the NBA. Country believe I actually do like hoops in the NBA. Kind of get lumped wick wits sick league stuff but this guy brought the league. I mean delete used a tape delay. You couldn't even watch live. NBA Games every locker room before a game was like a fucking snowstorm. Tom 'cause coke was out of control of her drug problem in the NBA. When he took over was you say honesty? 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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 233: Featuring Tie Domi + Erika Nardini

Spittin' Chiclets

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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 233: Featuring Tie Domi + Erika Nardini

"Lewellen welcome to episode two hundred and thirty three of spitting chickens presented by I pink Whitney the pink lemonade flavored vodka from our friends over at New Amsterdam Vodka. What's going on gentlemen? Let's say hi to the boys today. We'll start as always without produce him. Mikey Gi Grenell. What's going on up boys? I know the listeners can't see but I'm currently sporting our new. NBD winner hats. That are coming out soon. So haven't got a comment from you guys yet it. It was kind of disappointed about that. But they're dropping soon so keep an eye out for him. I noticed it. I don't know why I didn't ask where you're from but I did notice it so that that's a good thing you're a big guy. I'm a huge guy. I love wearing to skiing and it was just. I was crushing the to the whole time. I didn't even get a helmet because I just wanted to to be shown. What are you guys? Call them in the states. You call you. Call him hats or do you call them to when they had. I think with their hats tooks I learned from your yeah. I've always told them winter hats. I never call the two. That was next. Fell in the crew. Ryan Whitney the width. You just came back from skiing up in Vermont. How are the conditions brother actually great? I went up there on Friday. And it was just some powder some fresh Powell I was ripping it up. I listen I'm Ki as my ten times skiing in my life but by the end that first day I'm buzzing down well I shouldn't say black diamonds divide I'm buzzing down Blue Spruce circles. I mean I get some speed going but yet exhausted from at home I go. You can't do anything and I a great night's sleep after a full day of skiing but it was a blast tons of our sought a bunch of people. People recognize the word dog whistle intimidating mountain. No granted I did say I was ever had an enormous chocolate winter hat on so probably give me myself way but I I. I chatted up with some great people and I said next year I go skiing. I'm good for since retirement. One trip year. Maybe maybe going another one. I'm gonNA bring a backpack. I'm going to be backpack guy on the slopes slopes that if somebody notices me. I'll wear another hat. I'll be able to UNZIP the backpack. Chuck them some merch short. Just my good deed of the skiing season. How are you doing Biz? Oh Oh you're GONNA throw it over to me is more. Ra you throw it over me. I don't get comfortable unless already throws it to me wit align till midget last but not least the man and the crew Biz Nasty Paul. What's going on the celebrity? Well should I thought I thought maybe I'd get a little bit of a mention of team. Canada take home another world junior gold in that little intro there I drink notes. Yeah Ah congratulations as it Canadian. Yes I did have it. Further down the notes but candidate just won the world juniors once again I believe it was the eighteenth in its history. So how you found all of Canada gloating putting in celebrating right now. Well I guess let's start off by you know you re you go on twitter and you kind of listen who the front runners to win the gold medal and I mean from what I was reading before the tournament. Canada was kind of getting written off all of a sudden they get my boy bear at hating. And I'll tell you why he fucking rip that terminology. He he played today and I know they had that stuff early on the tournament. We discuss it. Let's move on. He ends up grade one separation of shoulders. What I'm hearing? That's what I didn't do any digging in the coyote side of things. That's what I read online and business. Sorry trump's quickly is great one worst grade three if I lived to be one hundred fifty. I won't no. Oh no no one is is like you know. It doesn't feel normal great area basically you're out for six probably six weeks just wondering. Yeah but doc didn't have that strengthening normally has but he ends up playing. He was a game time decision. Scores tying goal I think with eight change left in the third period. They were down three one in that third now not to take away from the Canadian victory. Is it accused Thomas who ended up getting the winner shortly thereafter at the end of the third. There's a little bit of a discrepancy in their win. Apparently there should have been a delay of game penalty when Canada clear zone with the PUCK. It hit one of the TSN `send cameras wait. They couldn't they couldn't say whether or not it was gonNA go directly out of play which we all know the angle and it should have been a two minute penalty so cadillac gets a massive bounce in that game and you know you hate for it to take away from the goal. But I can't be hypocrite not mentioned that what what a game or two Sunday afternoon to watch this game on the couch congrats Canada. You guys did it. You deserved it. Great win gold medal champions Opinions Champions of the World Barrett Hayden or a story from zero to hero from the bottom to the champion from the guy who everyone couldn't stand to the guy everyone wants is to be water run. He went on and that game that game. They said right at the end of the game. I don't know if it was Gord. Miller James Duh the're array chicken parm Ferraro. They said that's one of the gutsiest most legendary performances by Canadian and world junior history. You imagine the lineup of names. They've had and what guys have done in that tournament to win gold medal for Hockey Mad nation in Canada. This guy's now up at the top now recently bias jet but to play injured to tie that that game up and lead the team just Willingham to win via you getting on the ice through injury by scoring enormous goal by hitting guys being physical physical even with the bumped shoulder the bad banged up wing. He had just incredible to watch. You gotta think the future so bright for him because he like I said he bounced back from look like a complete idiot early in the tournament to be in the number one hero for team Canada. And Yeah in in our area before you jump in here like you said that happens. What happens happens if they don't have a great tournament and up losing out in the quarter or semi finals and they take Home Lebron's he would essentially have been remembered for that incident incident? Now he has to buck up and end up doing what he did in order to allow people to forget about that now. Of course there's going to be people who always remember it. They're gonNA hang on to that and and especially try to drag them through the mud forever. Get a socket. I got my gold medal hanging around my neck still body beat need it I love it and and how all these people messaging me. I guess the Russian coach just had an awful smell. It looked like a piece of chewed up. CARAMEL and I keep getting these tweets tweets like. Oh bears coach knows Lynn. The coach Faulk off all right so I had to address it. I said no I did not lend my note to the Russian coach. Can we please move on. Yeah he had some serious beak is going on. You weren't anywhere near his category busy. And the Doodoo scored Akil traumas. That was his only goal that tournament man. Talk about making the most of it but we had some anything else. What you wanted to add on that? So I Very interesting guy that Akil Thomas very interesting kid. He's got his own clothing line nine. He started when he was really that kid. Keep an eye on that K.. Because I've seen outside of the hockey world do a lot of big things drafted by the Los Angeles Kings. I'm going to reach out and try to get them on I think he's from Scarborough Ontario. So interesting kid. Congratulations to all those boys and Looking forward to getting back for this cup run for the coyotes for for you've kind of wrap up world junior stuff a couple of thoughts. I had one that Neal's Hog lander that Vancouver perk whole. We've seen a couple moves in the LACROSSE style goal. He had really the best one of this of this year. Pro Hockey In Sweden Vancouver back and then he was leading the tournament scoring five goals. Five assists get suspended in the semi final that Sweden ended up losing five four to Russian awesome game But still I mean like what a prospect for the canucks to have this guy come over. He was electric and I just think at that tournament ornaments so fun to watch because you really remember these guys pretty vividly when they're in the NHL and it because it comes soon it'll be the next year or two and a lot of these guys will be up. And you'll assuming you just think back to world juniors and and seeing them get to represent their country. I remember the chance. I got no better feeling so I love that tournament I always will and like I said. Congrats congrats the team Canada. Briefly on the Swedes. If five first round defenseman on that team we mentioned the fifty two and record in the round robin play. And that's it's a stretch. They went on the stat in that timeframe knoll where they have gone undefeated in the round robin fifty two only one gold medal to show for yeah reminded me of the Atlanta Braves back in the nineties when they used to win division after division went to a few world series and they only came away at one title. That whole time. That sort of reminded me of much of Your Big League Baseball Guy. Back in the day Biz. Yeah there was that when they had Greg Maddux yeah. Greg Maddux Chipper Jones that they stacked but like. I'm glad that John smoltz show so I don't. I don't follow baseball much. But for whatever reason I was always dialed in the maddox. He was a professor Professor Guy. They just say I'd like eighty nine miles. An hour fastball. Perfectly right on the corner every time with some movement just he he was the He out funk hitters are I gotta ask you since we're on. The subject Patriots ended up losing that game to the Titans A lot of people are being my favorite word hyperbolic about the fact that this might have. Brady's last game is the is the dynasty over. How you guys feel about it and I guess while I'm at the football games have been fucking incredible As far as the PATS I mean people text in the dynasties done when they lost the Miami last week It's just a lot of rumor and conjecture right. Now there's been nothing is newsworthy. Actual News at Brady may or may not come back. I know he said we'll see what happens. Ballot check is known for being cutthroat. He doesn't give Koya but I don't think he has somebody lined up after Brady right now. WHO's better than Brady If I was a man I would say that he will be back with the Patriots next year. I don't think he wants to go out like that as as well I hope so. I hope they get another run but I mean if it was the end Jesus Hall Water Run. It was just like I feel as a fan. I mean you gotta be so thankful you got to witness any of that so when it does end so we we told those red wings fans couple of weeks back just chatting about their team like you go to stick with the bad times if that's what's ahead because you'll always remember that that run and that dynasty so I just I mean like I love the pats. I hope he's back doc. I hope he gets another shot but if it is the end I mean I just appreciate that guy that go. Yeah but you know teams like Detroit. Those organizations have an aura about them. They're probably bobby. They're probably going to get first overall pick and get that started out on the left field in the IRA left the fray and the thing that's cranny there's Shami how many fans are young. They they don't even know what it's like to have. The pats even stink a little bit where you know guys my age. That sucker a long long time we paid I do so. You'RE GONNA have a bunch two people who are going to experience she patriots teams at some point in the next few years. All right well. I'm sorry for your loss. I always see the dynasties win because I like to hear the people bitch online in but man it was like a celebration yesterday for all those pats haters. It's hilarious. You don't have to give us condolences. It's only it's only a football game but I do appreciate door the Basil win it you know. Hey let's get some hockey news and now we've got a couple of DALLAS UPDATES for first off. I intentionally left the biggest. Thank you of them all last last week. And that was for the handful of Texas Angel delivered flowers to the spit and chocolates crew. I know Texas. Has the death penalty. Have like fucking grandma down there I sent without the bat signal because the boys you know we need medicine. We fly sometimes create a purposes sometimes sleeping purposes I wrote the Bat signal and Lo and behold they had about fifteen replies People really took good care of us at the live. Show a gentleman from Colorado. Hooked me up with this very pen right here. That's still been taking care of me few days later so I I just want to say we want want to say thanks to everybody who who sent flowers our way they they did not go to waste and they will most appreciated by the time every fan giving you the weed that they brought you. You probably were the largest the holder of cannabis in the state of Texas. I was pretty traffic and by the time and we live. There was a felony. You're walking with duffle bags of that shit but it Kinda comes in handy. We need medicine right Biz. It's unfortunate we can't just take it like fucking cigarettes but anyways we did have an update on recently phya Dallas Hostess head coach. Jim Montgomery he released a statement on Friday. And what you said. He is seeking treatment for alcohol abuse. And that has fire was quote the appropriate gall You you know. I don't think he was fired for coming home and having to my teens in passing on the couch. I think it's safe to assume it was the decisions he made while intoxicated by you know we got to give the Guy Credit. He recognized He's like he said he was living a damaging lifestyle This was his per wakeup call. I guess A moment of clarity. You might call it. And he's trying to make take these steps in life to to be a better man so we can commend them for that and hopefully he conflicts himself. He's clearly a great coach. And you know everybody has personal problems I do. Oh you guys do we all do and unfortunately his became a public light. I it's other public light so hopefully things about a Jim Montgomery going ahead best. When did you want to add this Roy? Everyone on loves a comeback story as you said. He's a great coach. She's got a long process of getting better ahead. I wish nothing but the best I I guess the last thing I'll say about it on the organizational standpoint is I I was reading a lot of people. Were like all like like what the players get to get sent to Rehab Avenue. You just fired a coach and throw them out of the bus. Listen guys. There's some things that you don't know. Just just listen. He's GonNa go get help. He's GonNa come back and hopefully coach again. This is you're gonna not to be blamed for any of this. Okay so I'm just telling the people who may be have that opinion back off a little bit. Yeah well said. I think that I'd never be one to say what rock bottom is for someone else. But you've got to imagine that's kind of close. Where he's he's gone and what what happened to him in Dallas but like you said the ability for him to coach and win wherever he's been? I think you will get another chance. And that's hopefully if things go in and getting better and feeling better about himself self so like you said best wishes to him and I think we will see him hopefully as as a coach again maybe. It's an H. L.. Maybe it's not in the NHL right away. But I think he'll definitely. I have no problem at some point. things go well getting another job and I guess like on the overall on a life aspect is this guy had his dream job and because because of those things it sucked them away so I mean sometimes you know people say oh he's got all this money and all this and it's just like no it's a disease man and we definitely definitely hope that this guy gets better from it and comes back even stronger and and as I said I mean we love comeback stories absolutely people I would say really owes an apology to if he does is just as family you know. He doesn't all the fans whatever he had. Some personal foibles and he's down with them and and one other note to I. I read the newspaper Article The Dallas Morning News and and and they wrote a piece. I go according to sources i. He's been going to alcoholics anonymous like the last month it's like. Hey you know what. That's not newspapers jobs report. It's called alcoholics anonymous. For fucking reason. I if you're in the program supposed to be anonymous you're not supposed to tell people so the source shares through the newspaper or they're assholes for doing it but I don't remember the report his name but it's not something you report it just something that I don't I don't like it I I again. I have a lot of family members and friends or in the program. And that's the whole basis of the programs the the anonymity so maybe don't put his name in the paper as having attended a meeting. RS Talking to a buddy recently who who went through that process and God help but his better now and it's awesome missy and he was saying he go- he couldn't believe the people that were in the room with him. Not Knowing these people are on top of the world they battled through this thing on a daily basis and some of them have to show up to these meetings multiple times a week in order to prevent themselves to from falling back into that whole he. He said some of these people he was seeing in the room. You know Ayla celebrities and have been sober for over twenty years because of these meetings so yeah that's their personal shit like leaving from the fuck alone. Yeah that kind of Shit bag moved there. But also as we had a little more residual went to Classic News Corey Perry ended up getting five games for elbowing nationals naturals Ryan Ellis in Uganda Buddy. You said five games. And that's exactly what he got. I guess it seemed appropriate Yeah I think because it was on the national stage and this is something that the League's trying to crack down on didn't help them out and and do them any favors. So I thought five was fair. I don't know how long this is going to be out as he is he back in the lineup. I know they played sense right. Yeah the on the I are gone now so I think that in in looking at the five games busy congrats. You're right gray call. We talk right away that it's the guys injured. You always say what would what would that That have been suspension for guy was still injured while this time time. You actually have that being the case without In a time when Nashville when they won Saturday night but while things aren't looking good even pack every and I said to a reporter. Things are not. Oh good right now but Corey Perry S- third suspension of his career. We talked about him always playing on the edge. I actually since two thousand thirteen But that was just dumb. Play dumb decision. I'm sure he would Want to Redo on that one because to get the like. We talked about the walk. Shame the greatest Walker. Shame in hockey history. I will remember that one for a while and the and the stars are going to miss anything stars have something going especially that game. When he was out those four-goals-in-eight-minutes we talked about that? So I just think the area sometimes has the marshawn right. They cannot help themselves. A how about his game used jerseys being sold online from pleasure. I I if I'm a fan like that tells a story much rather jumping on that one than I am a half the other ones right. I mean not to boot. It's Corey Perry. He's had a pretty decent career if you're in a Stanley Cups and gold medals and chip and goal scoring titles not to mention how many maze kicked off online. All people were. I love the mayonnaise man and and is one of the no to the TV ratings. They weren't good nationally but in Dallas and national they they were through the roof But one city they couldn't beat out was the number one city watchful as God. Bless the fucking great city of Buffalo Number one in the ratings and is actually. I thought it was interesting and the other cities After the Buffalo Nashville Dallas Fort Worth Saint Louis vagus providence new Bedford Greenville Spartanburg which is North Carolina. Oklahoma City Richmond Norfolk walk only two of those. US markets when the north everything else was was southewest which I don't know it's pretty good for the future of the League. A I know we talk about Buffalo. And how crazy Roese there. Sports fans are I was talking to call Miller the other day. I WANNA call their cup with him when I was playing with the Manchester Monarchs. Not a big deal you everyone one of those wit. Have you ever wanted you know went to the finals. I won the back. P World Championship Nine hundred ninety seven Thanks I'll bring my ring to the Hawk out there. You can look at Douay Emma under eighteen ring from team Canada when we won the world championships in Yaroslava Russia. Anyway back back to call a Miller I was talking to him and he he said fuck man is the these sports fans are not spills are popping off. They were axed added afternoon game on Saturday. They were GONNA go to a bar and watch it. Just a heartbreaking defeat seat for the buffalo bills fans so many opportunities to win that game by they just punch one in the fucking red zone but he was saying you know he loves it there he the the people are incredible. So's just great to hear like a guy's perspective where your you would consider it a a small market but just how in love with our their team and now that the bills also done. I'd imagine they'd get more fans coming out and they're just on the cusp of playoffs right now aren't they. Well we'll go to buffalo just naturally there the way you went to them. It's a scary time. And they got all of sins now five to six weeks. Jeff Skinner's Oh three to four weeks. It's just been They're battling injuries. Same with last year it's They are not right now in the playoffs. They are just outside the wildcard by four points. Right now yeah listen. This is what I'm thinking. I'm thinking a mirror image of the Taylor Hall season when he won the heart. Jack Eichel keeping them afloat into to those guys are able to get healthy and I think they can squeak in. I think if the Sushi now football's over they're going to get more fan support. They're going to get that Mo jo going. I think it goes at the level right now. Of What Hall was that year where he can keep them afloat to get them in he he has been just absolutely stellar. You guys see that penalty shot and over time. The tonight yeah ended against the oilers discuss quick quick flick of the wrist again. The weird thing with this liquid are- volcan tug on his hammer in buffalo. There's no skunks crush. So he's got the fucking strongest risks in their league. fucking Popeye over there. Got You WANNA take that back skinner. By the way he was paid for twenty goals after last year where he earned that huge ticket why scoring forty so I mean you. Even the season he was having prior was a little disappointing. After what you signed and what you saw the year before yeah uncle fifty five points in forty two games. Twenty six go twenty nine assists. He is having a month the season so I like to see him get in as well Taking a look actually corey. Perry wasn't the only suspension that the NHL Dole out since I last episode Sodas. La's Curtis Mc Dermott two games for an illegal check to the head of Phillies Ivan. Provorov looked like he was going for his check along the boards. I wouldn't say it was intentional. But needless to say The video side of the main point of contact not the first point but the main point was the head on that was the basis for the suspension with. Did you gotta look at that one. Yeah I thought they got it all right pretty simple in seeing the replay that that was the correct decision. Do you agree with me or not. I didn't even see the head I saw. When he got off the ice I saw when he got pushed off the bench by somebody the other day and he turned around and the lights when grabbed him with Dermot? It looked like he wanted to murder the entire bench. That guy is a psychopath path that he looks just terrifying at times. Yeah I mean trying to get rid of hits to the head. That's that's the only way to really deter even like. I said it wasn't intentional. Certainly look like he was trying to but if they gave them a game I I wouldn't have been. I would have been okay if they don't give them a game as well A boys the STAS might have stolen a win on New Year's Day in the third period. But you don't want sucker stealing stuff from your own home. That's why you want to check out simply safe simplisafe. Home security is like getting commercial grade at the price level security but for your own home think about the security fortune five hundred companies used. 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SAF DOT com slash checklists to save on home security today simplisafe dot com slash check. Let's all right. Boys their new new sponsor. Hopefully I'll listeners. Will check them out We already talked about the world. Juniors I just did mention the save as a couple minutes ago. They made a couple of moves while we were gone Currently four points out. We just mentioned they first off they sent defense in Monaco scandal to Montreal for Fourth Rounder and twenty twenty. They then sent that fourth round to Calgary for Ford Award Michael Fro leak. He's got ten points and thirty eight games. So far this season He did waive his no trade clause to go to Buffalo Affect Buffalo traded scandal for for leak scandal makes four million dollars. He'll be Ufa this summer he had nine points in thirty one games with the sabres this year. There's been speculation all season long about buffalo detailing tailored defenseman. They finally got around to it Whitney with take on this one well actually before you throw over to wit. Ra in all ask you because I never played defense at the National Hockey League level. They had eight D. up until now scandal and they have some pretty competent guys. Like there are. There aren't any plugs in the eight whereas it to keep everyone in game shape deep in playing a kind of take some guys at a rhythm. Because you're you're spreading out the games guys you know you gotta be playing every game and get your raps in order to get in in the real comfort zone on you need to play I. Am I wrong here here. And so hard when like even on nights when teams play seventy base. You remember when you play dance Karski get. You can't get into early groove you get you. You need to get into a groove and so when there's eight guys and there's always shuffling between every other game and actually I don't know if that that's been the case if they've always been switching up there six or seven but it just tough because you'd never end up getting a partnership with another guy we're going into every game bearing everyone being healthy. You got your top pair your second comparing your third pair. A lot of good teams go on runs would've ad is the case and it's just difficult so scandal will get a chance somewhere else and I all offs and being out. Just that really sucks about flow because you look at a guy who was sneakily end probably top three for for the caller trophy voting. If it was now I could be wrong but I believe earlier in the season Babcock Dress Seventy and eleven fords and I want to see. It was even healthy scratching spasm while doing. I may be wrong here here. It was somebody did it but as a head coach man I know if I was one I wouldn't never in a million years play seventy only situation situation would be if you have a very defenseman who wants to try it out and play through injury and you're not sure where that guy might have to step in and now now you have sixtee- exte- because that guy is going to lead the game and I would want a guy who's able to also have experienced at forward I was gonNA say a guy the other instance it's if a guy's just running your power play and solely only playing powerplay which you've seen happen. I've seen happen. But how many times our team's successful with that. That's Marc Andre. Berge Ron do that at one point for the oilers and just come in and take one hundred ten mile an hour one timers. I'm pretty sure he did that somewhere. Maybe it was Tampa but still I know I know I listen. I hate seven. I'm just trying to think of ways it. The injury one is obviously completely valid. But it sucks there never has. It goes up when I was in the American League. I had to take up sometimes on D if there was a guy who was playing who was a little banged up. If we if we got up by a certain amount Stutz you would come to be before the game and say. Hey you're you're going to be taking some reps on D. tonight. And that's why I said if you are GonNa go seventy UNITA guy who's able to jump up and help out because there's so much skating now in in in the game is so fast that you have to maintain that high end paste wrote an entire sixty minutes and all people are GonNa slaughter me for this but teams yes. You have depth like the coyotes. That's why they're successful because they're able to maintain that pace all Gamov so if you don't have depth than you rely on on your top six you have to have an extremely elite top six in order to to pay at play. Eighty two games get yourselves in the playoffs and then have enough energy to to keep pulling the weight through that so it's all about having a balanced lineup. And and I mean we saw team like Philly the other night where their bottom six is a little thin. Uh Of course losing is it Oskar Limbaugh is how I sat which is which is terrible. Now is such a tough loss for them on the hockey side died of it. Obviously it's it's life and it's far bigger than that. But he was leading point getter at that point so not only do they lose a big guy in the top six they just. I think I'm GonNa Kinda retract on my earlier predictions that they were gonNA make playoffs. They're just so thin in on an leans lines three and four that it's just so much strain on the top six. I saw the coyotes put a six to beating on them was wondering when you bring that up I just did allows happened. How many how? Many people were at that game last night. I had it listed. As A SELL-OUT I would say no no fewer than sixteen and five. It was a great atmosphere okay. Football's done now. And this is the winningest team in the valley so people are starting to come in droves. Because they're like Holy Shit. These are fun to watch. We got guys on Connor. Garland's making seven fifty. He's got what fourteen fifteen talks like fucking Sala roster so sorry at all you people at the listen you fucking the coyotes but I love them keep on blithering bulk. One one other quick note. I tweeted the link out today. So very cool news and I know you're a golfer wet so you're gonNA appreciate this so the Waste Management Tournament. I had to keep this secret from months. The Waste Management Open has a pro-am on the Wednesday and Shane Doan begging the planet for years and years they've never had an NHL guy Not even Wayne Gretzky played it while they the the chairman Tim Woods reached out to the coyotes and said. Hey we're going to invite chain this year but we WANNA do it in a funny way so we did this little spoof video where I went to the sixteen St Paul and they recorded it as if I was going to get asked to play and I was just like rubbing my hands together so excited and all of a sudden he goes. We're going to ask you Paul. Listen to caddy for Shane down. So obviously I was acting pissed. You guys can watch the video on coyotes social media or twitter so but the the the key to this was is a month leading up chained owns wife also had to keep the secret where we had a first responders night last night and don't donor wasn't supposed to to come to the game and they said hey one of the first responders wants to meet you which of course they did. Donor drove all the way down the rain just to shake hands with them during the first intermission and while that what happened was happening they put on the jumbotron. So that's how. Shane don't ended up finding out that he was getting invited. So the chairman ends up coming out surprise him and and he he is you could see his mind was spinning and afterward he goes man. The only thing I can think of is like I have to circle and take fucking lessons right now because I'm going to embarrass myself. I self on national. Because he's got a bit of a Banana Hook. You're on the bag. So that's only going to add to the HOOPLA around. I told him I said I fucking reading your pots. I'm going to be porn. Warn People Pink Whitney on the sixteenth hole the hallway to the to the green. You're going to be delivering a way out there. So sorry to to keep talking about the coyotes but I I thought that'd be a fun thing to mention not a problem I saw it pays. Its funny very funny. Oh and lasting fucking Rhonda got lower body injury. We're not sure how long long it's going to be so now. Both the cow. These goals are out. Luckily we have some decent guys in the pipeline and eight and hell who came into relief in third period Against The Philadelphia. It off your flyers on Saturday. He might have to get the start on the east coast road swing so Look for that. But he's a stud one other quick note to on that for League trade off from the Calgary side that opens up four point three million in cap space for them so if they're looking to add someone at the deadline then they have a little more cash to do so also we got a couple of guests and other another episode where we have to guess. Foyer I stopped. We're going to bring up one of the toughest to ever do it tie Domi. 'cause he played for the Rangers play for the jets had quite a few fights one most of them and also another tough cookie in her own right our own CEO. Eric Dini business. It sat down with her when we were down headquarters about a month shown picked her brain a little bit. So we'll be bringing both those folks on what you want a little bit now. Where was not there for the tie? Domi interview unfortunately unfortunately because yet NHL network that night. I missed that one. Yeah so you always bring a different element and it sucks. That we couldn't have you it. It was a great sit down with with him. Good getting inside the mine of a guy who had to do it for that long Definitely some surprising answers to two in did not expect the ones that we got on certain questions. One other note it was. It was funny hearing a breakdown that entire scenario with the Philadelphia Philadelphia Flyer Fan that fell into the penalty box. He gives the entire breakdown. I didn't I didn't know about the some of you hardcore title me fans may know the story. A lot of you won't so very interesting. Hear about how all that hold. The buckle got broken down absolutely and he surely doesn't want to talk to him he doesn't look like a guy or sonic guy who's had probably a thousand fights in his life he he shirley still has his wits about him. No doubt about that Cup All the notes to Montreal made another deal as well. They sent defenceman Mike Riley to Ottawa for fifth rounder. In Twenty Twenty One and forward Andrew starts are Riley had four assists in fourteen games with the HAB so he probably won't win the move. We'll get a little bit more probably a lot more ice time in Ottawa. The twenty six-year-old. Minnesota native has one more year left after this year at one point five mill and interestingly this is the first transaction between Montreal and Ottawa since June of the two thousand one. What do you got what I it's kind of interesting? That might cry that he came out of Minnesota and people were talking about. You're going to look at a next like star Star offensive defenseman in the NHL wasn't a high pick but You know with the wild never. I never really Kinda got got into the lineup. Enough to make a difference to really produce. I don't know if he battled injuries I just it was surprising to kind of see where it's gone. Because he could skate. He could move and come out of College College. I heard so much and You know you see get traded a couple of times and that's when you start realizing you're you're not you're kind of running out of chances in a way so good luck to him but it's been a it's been a weird weird start to his career. Nothing about this guy you said. He went to school Minnesota and then and then went to the wild yen then he and then he went to the wild. I'm pretty sure he signed signed with them. He might have been traded because he wasn't drafted by them and then and then like I mean talking visit Minnesota. He was over point per game last. Yeah he was going to light it up and never will he used drafted by Columbus and then his draft rights expired in June. Two Thousand Fifteen. which made him an unrestricted free agent? which is when he signed with the wild We've got another note on the Canadians as well We mentioned last episode. How decimated their forward goal has been through injuries while they went out and they signed Ilya Kovalchuk to try? Try to help out. He signed a one year. Two way deal. That's going to pay him seven hundred K.. At the NHL Level as seventy thousand at the level. I mean he had to sit around a little bit before someone someone pick them up. What do you think this is GonNa be affected this one busy? You're going to have any real while. Act what the the main story is who ended up giving him as number with the role. That's right too. So what's his name. Could someone help me out here. Now I'm going to take right now it's a Brett kulak Brett Brett kulak genius genius move. He gets ahead of he. He knows what he was doing. What the fuck he was doing? All right so tippy your cap your new rolex so before it even gets there. He gives up the number that weight number seventeen hanging into stall when he gets there. Well what's called a chuck Underdo. Having made one hundred million in his career not get a rolex all of a sudden he gets the El Chico label and then all of a sudden Austin Matthews making fun of him on social media for being a cheapskate. Escape making jokes in the fucking podcasts about it. No he knows what he's doing so he had to fucking them Rowley. So what a play by him now it. It could've been just just to spite if I'm call chuck just to spite him I can. I'm a women's one say I know what the fuck you're doing buddy. I know what you're doing. You WanNa fucking Rolex Rolex okay buddy anyway what you did for me. No you just have a small wrist so we had to get you a female but no. That's a listen. By the way the trainer probably thirty six a nice watch Biz the trainer I went to music. Hey colds coming. So we're taking your number like the kid didn't even have say mud trainers like play. This smart you'll get something out of this. I'll make you say we're GONNA sell it. We're GONNA split the money okay. He said he settled for rock paper scissors too and then he ends up getting a rolex. What do you I mean? He would have played rock paper scissors for the number. Yeah he said he would have played rock paper scissors for the number but ends up getting a free rolex. Don't send went in there because we saw what happened in Dallas on US rock paper scissors and their fans for tickets. There is a chance in somebody brought up a good point of maybe just dropping the whole live show on Youtube. Once it's edited properly. Maybe take out some things that we don't want to deal with publicly We all know how that can go but we did a cool thing where where we did. ROCK PAPER PERSIST FOR FANS TO WIN two tickets. The game we had four sets a two and wet was just talking about his rock paper scissors game and he gets embarrassed in front of five hundred people who who who beat me again it was the thirty one and thirty one guy that guy that's going thirty one arenas and thirty one days. Yeah Dude try looking guy soul all through his eyes he'll fuck and be anyone down dudes going thirty one games thirty one day. He was disaster that it was no chance anyone as the mental aptitude to beat some psychopathic. That's a pretty cool trip all he was done us about all the arenas within thirty days I think she said it was going to be twenty nine days completely. He's doing two on two occasions aired through my rain convinced me what a throw but I so let's go back to the lecture or at hand which is Colva chicken and joining the Canadians heroes. Who Dress in a what? I know how he might get a couple of goals here and there I I understand the move the much Canadians have to try anything with injuries and their lack of scoring so I totally see what's going on. Maybe maybe he finds a little youth in Montreal but I don't I don't I think you'll see much just doesn't skate like you used to. Berge ovens like oh great. We got these injuries. Now we're GONNA play some of these young guys and see what they really got 'cause Clo- Jillian doesn't have you know really have a choice. Can you get merely over jerk really man really you want covy fine fuck it. Six points Komo playoff spot right now. So they'll need a little bit more help than that But boys what do you say we send it over to tie Domi right about now. Sounds good I was. I was pissed to miss this one so looking forward. They actually didn't want you there so it was getting Jack. I would've put his mind into Pretzel like Twenty Nine Arenas in thirty one days and with that tie Domi Our next guest is one of the most accomplished pugilist. NHL History he plied straight for sixteen seasons with three teams racking up one one thousand twenty games in an unfathomable three hundred thirty three fights and that's just the NHL third all time in penalty minutes with three thousand five hundred fifteen welcome. Welcome to the spitting chocolates podcast. The Albanian assassin tie dome. Aw about that intro impressed. I've heard that a long time broken. That was allergy nickname for quite a while. Yeah but oh my God we got so much to cover. I mean of course the fighting aspect you were actually a pretty fucking decent player too. I think a lot of people forget that as well And you know maybe some off ice accomplishments as well Let's start off. Maybe maybe with the Peterborough Pete's well. Let's that goes way back when it first day training camp a showed up with a broken hand Dan for White Bar which didn't go too well but It was what it was I had to get it fixed and so this bowl mentality polity this kind of stemmed from childhood you always a wrecking ball and I don't use the term. Maybe the shortest of the bunch. You had to fight for everything you got. Well I think it all started when I was young kid. You know we didn't know what the DYSLEXIA was back. Then but I had to get through school and You know I I was always sticking up for you. Know the guys who are the academics and the smart ones and they are the guys that everybody picked on. I was stuck up for those guys because they helped me get through school guys and girls so That was really How I got through school being dyslexic in I was an athlete toes? Usually the best best athlete in school. So I got through sports Through School and Sports and obviously protecting the academics. Or Help me get through you've tests and exams and everything are people aware you're dyslexic became known once I got turned pro. We didn't really know I was a kid right My mom would always say my son's no dummy you know they. Actually I got I got sent to You know a PLA- a school that had challenges for for kids to for learning and out there for a week and not even a week. I don't think in the principal. Call me me and said you don't belong here so I went home to my mother and father and said a place so I had to go back to you. Know the normal school and I just you know the the coaches and the principal or happy. I came back to normal school sports teams but they gave me off for for the right reasons partially fifties. They gave me fifties the one teacher in grade. Five she She wasn't very nice. She actually failed me. But you know I I ah never forget You know that feeling of failing and all your friends moving on. But that's what she that's what you can live with when you're growing up and we didn't know any better Wa- so he then you you always knew you were going to be a player and and move on college and never ever an option or see right to junior and and try to make pro. Well I it was always an option. But but was not a realistic option for me. You know. Having scholarships and football and soccer and blame it or not ahead probably you neil thirtysomethings schools and in soccer and twentysomethings schools and football as a kicker middle back here riddle backer back that can kicker and punter but never left to feel you still kick it around now. I know but I actually ended up playing for the Argos couple of exhibition games. I don't have any Stanley Cup rings but I get up bring so you're playing around the time. pinball clemens was yeah I was there with all those guys it was a it was a pretty interesting time Michael Shea. Just won the Grey Cup for Winnipeg and he was on the team the Doug Flutie. That was a pretty special time being doug flutie and he when I kick the field goals he actually held held it so it was pretty cool shit and was hockey your best sport door because we know actually hockey is my third sport. I got recruited of being. He looked at by division two division three schools and just a couple of soccer. It was all over the country and once they found out that Academics wasn't my my I strength. I I went ahead and my father will let me go to Europe to play soccer when I was sixteen so He let me go to Peterborough when I was sixteen for Training Camp A.. And Gun at two to two or three plates the first day so I made the team. Will you fight worth fighting in minor hockey all the time as well or not really usually usually sticking up from my friends growing up but I think the one time I tell people go worded it really kick in. You're right you're going to be a fighter like like wow when I was twelve years old and my brother's five years me and he was getting beat up by this guy. I saw this guy my brother just pounding away and he had wipe bleach blond hair her and I just jumped jumped on him and started wailing autumn and he was five years older than me. So after the you know the guy had bleached blond blonde hairs covered in blood make. This is pretty scary looking so I'm at home and I hear the door Bango hard at home and my mother answers the door and the father says look what your son Look what your son did to my son and my brother. My brother standing there next to my mother. He thinks it's my brother the father so I come between much smaller and I'll make I'm sorry Mr Procter Shaw and he. He's looking down at me. He's like he did that. He kicked his son in law. And I think that's really were I was kind of became became more fearless But then junior see when I was fourteen years old fighting. Nineteen twenty year olds I think the one time getting a getting a police escort Outta Waldberg. After I beat up the twenty year old captain. There was blood all too. I was just sat out of some thirty times so I think that's you know when when you're fourteen years old you can you know what I mean. How old were you very first on ice fight for it was a fourteen? Now Egos was a bank. Even below that It was probably. It was probably twelve to be honest but it wasn't really wasn't really a fight yet. Got junior. C was when you stop fighting men right and I was fearless so I fought antibody and I didn't really know any better so I was fourteen plan in eighteen thousand nine hundred and then what I was fifteen. I played junior B and had three hundred and fifty something minutes in penalties Ledley. So I I think I was kind of born a fighter. People ask me. Why did you fight so much and I always stuck up from my my friends growing up kids and you know the people who helped me get through school? That's really where it really started but I think once they start played junior. C DID IT IN JUNIOR B. I did it in junior a got his. You know Mike reach you as my son. Herman and Uh we went to which finals and we went to. We went to a Memorial Cup and I got drafted as a tough guy really but I kind of forgot what I got drafted. I actually can skate. Like second rounder. They drafted you for the whole packet. twenty-seventh Iran help people know. Tell kids that's a first rounder. I one hundred. There's only one thousand nine hundred a ways back for sure so since you were so used to fight and all these guys guys orden you like when you even when you jumped up. NHL Were you nervous at that point. Now you were going to be going at the best in the world or were you excited for that challenge. Well my first. Despite in January was against the toughest gang league name work LAFORGE. I went the coach. Talking about coaches comes in room and I'm sixteen years old and he's looking around the room he's like I don't want anybody fight. That number eighteen out there. He's looking around except one guy and I was kind of a rookie of dressing behind the door. And I'm like I'm right here. I just pop your head out. Yeah I gotta so I kinda was looking forward to you know and it's the same thing when I got to the NHL. I was looking forward to fighting Bob Robert so I was. I was a fearless kid. I was one of the few guys that Like doing it so take me through Game Day though you wake up as day progresses in before your pre game nap. You're are you at when Game Day's when I was early in single or when I was married in y bogus even early on I mean take me through the whole career early on. Would you be getting as nervous as some guys do. Well I never really got nervous Actually it was too small to get nervous. Always had to be calm and in control it was too small right. Everybody was twice my size. Usually most of the time so but I knew I can hurt him through both hands and a lot of guys got to know the no butterflies whatsoever right before you drop the gloves with with Bob. Probert Mill Jesus Christ now no not not not too many guys have that your your Orlando. It's the truth screws loose screws loose. I just you know I I love the play the game and you know I could've played other sports and I wanted to be a hockey player being Canadian kid and that was my dream. You know. That's how I got there. And my my toughness toughness company. They're legitimate. I can sit here and stare at you guys and tell you I made it because because of my fighting then I you know I got more room than I became a better player. I could play junior but people forgot that I could play junior so I had to kind of reestablish myself as a hockey player your best years were were with Toronto later in your career as far as offensive numbers law that was Pat Burns doing He challenged me to to Condition myself better be a better player practice hard and he said if you practice hard for for me I'll make you a better player and you plan a place for me. And he did and I ended up playing with Sunday and and Gilmour in the playoffs Chicago. Interesting Stat about you is is you. It had the second most Maples playoff games ever correct. Why after George Armstrong? So that's that's third all time which you know is a is something that You know you take a lot of pride and plant a lot of playoff games. We had great goaltenders Eddie Belford Curtis Joseph. So I tell my son now now in Montreal. You've got carry price. Make it to the playoffs. You never know what can happen. So that's just You know that was a blessing playing in Toronto and my hometown and the Madison Dean. Obviously who is the guy who who made it up and he was the guy we never really had that second guy so Matson Margulis Kinda usually did it but it is a tough guy and playoffs. She get the just play. You don't have to think about fighting. And every game I played over thousand games ahead the dress every game thinking you might have to fight no matter what so. It was almost a distraction mentally. Feel more comfortable playoffs like you just had to like really told you small so I had to really really focused right. And guys are big Meyer. They were they were often. They're mean the naked flight. You know I'm not saying guys can't fight now. I don't think that they know how to fight as well and I don't don't think they really they don't really fight to hurt you. You know nowadays. It's Kinda just be lucky to see a hit nowadays is didn't have youtube where you watching though the vhs studying guys and stuff. I know but you know being dyslexic. I was one of those guys that you know visually. When you see something you you remember and so I always knew what guy the guys spot and what hand through so that was kind of You know the photographic very interesting you run it through a couple of times of the day and and that was. That was the thing that I really had to do. was I had to outsmart everybody when I fought him because there are twice my size and I had to and you know guys used to stand there and throw toe to toe and I said there's no way I can I can you know Sustain this in in last in the NHL have to change and actually did change the way Guys do fight. You know I'm not GonNa sit there and take punches that stupid you know so well I mean even you were pretty hard core. I was talking to Cam Janssen the other day. And we're like man my people bolt. We're Kinda the last of the fighters people think we're like these tough guys. We didn't fuck and do it like the guys before us. Those guys you guys even guys before you they they would just stand in the pocket before me and when I you know I was just too small to stand there and go toe to toe and I tried that a few times and you know it was like Yeah No. I'm not going to keep doing this so I I actually changed. And it was a blessing plane with Joko show. When I was young he came to New York and he threw he threw the right bomb? I'm an Thrilled both hands and you throw hard. He said you know you your hands looking like this. He said don't waste punches. And take the helmet off. So I literally literally started getting in and taking guys helmets off then throwing bombs you know it was all about the grip but always about the stance always being calm and I was telling you people say how did you do you. You always look calm. which was crazy? It's a quote Unquote Act or not. I think when people get mad date they they overreact and not in control and that's not the way to fight especially in the NHL who's probably the best that it now is reeves you watch him before a fight and it's his heart rate slows down. He just very patient and calm and I hate to keep beating the fighting horse but yeah I think people want to know what the psychological aspect besides guy your size always ask me and you guys are hockey show so I don't. I don't mind doing it you know. It's you've been asking me for a long time busier a good the MAC so I'm happy to That's a whole different thing We gotta get into later later on. What what a great kid do you WanNa talk about Burns e actually? I wanted to go back to program for a second. You follow them across the street that epic brawl and he gives the old you know got the title title belt was data predetermined. Then you're doing that happened spontaneously. Well that was the days of the Hulk Hogan and Macho man and all that stuff and probably tells the story when when we actually actually before we fought the first time on. Let's go a macho man. Shot at the title so it was a whole. It was a whole gimmick back. Then the belt thing you know I felt that I got the better when the first one in you know he was the champ and He was always the champ so he was a he was a very very very Great special individual that I got the no after our careers. I didn't say what was your advice relationship. I got the norm after game. You know we had too much of big robbery to I times but after I got to know him and You know he was. He was like big Teddy Bear family guy and he he said to me He said and we spent some quality time together as a family guy and everything and He'd say Tie He goes. I couldn't hurt you and I said I know that's why I knew I could beat you and you know when when he said that to me I was like yeah because he hit me with his harvest and the first first one I if you watch the replay the second one. It looks like I go down at the end. We are just so tired so big right. He was but it didn't hit me to go Go down out. He couldn't hurt me right so we're just so tired at the end that fight and he was and he's a heavy guy so we just fell it yet but looks like he hit but he didn't hit me and he knew it so he admitted it and he admitted a lot of things to me but those are things I'll cherish funneled. Think I should share special things. He said the first time I met Matt You. You told me how much you hated the word Goon. I think that'd be a good conversation between won't get up right now not finishes conversations. Did you wear them. Sorry all you hate it that much. Yeah Oh while case trigger word insulted me and so did you kosher and I consider those guys. The greatest of and those guys didn't talk about fighting and those guys like that word and I didn't. I never liked talking about it and I don't like that word right. I I know you guys are. I like to stay keep things. PG I knew coming on here you guys swearing everything with your yeah but You know the PG thing I you know I I'll stick to the PG but I can say a lot of things about the g word that You know especially a lot of people that use it. I can say a lot but I won't say all you have to stick to so just upsets you. Maybe like some media and painted right. There's a lot. There's there's a lot of guys in in in in the world especially the media. Yeah there's certain guys that you have a stance on it and I actually tried this. What you're doing when I've retired with TSN and you know the guy there that's running tsn? He was running in hockey news for years and years and he was he was a guy who hated fighting the most when I took the job and I dipped my toe in the water. There you know but everything you say at. TSN They tell you what to say and they wanted me to go on national TV. Wednesday coast to coast between the double header. Game and say fighting doesn't belong hockey because someone's going to die and I'm like no I am not saying that you know how big it'll be if you say I don't give Shit I am not saying 'cause you don't believe I don't believe leave it. Are you happy with how it's decline now. It's more so just you know what reality that's the way the world's changing the world's changing as you see in the whole vert art. It's changed not just in sports but in the corporate world and and everything everything you say now and you got to be a little delicate on everything in the fighting aspect of things you know guys nice can get hurt. And but that's why I did a book you know. After way died who Wade Belak. I was very close with. He's like my little little brother for five years. You sat next to me and I always kept them involved and when I retired it was a it was a tough thing to to see the whole situation evolve with him and I didn't go back to the center when I retired at all and I actually happened to go to one game. I think it was the year after I retired by engle for a long time and when I walked in coming up the stairs in Iran in Wade Belak Swipe Gin and she goes to tie. Can you please go talk to wade. He's struggling he's a tough time. Make sure no problem. So I go in there after the first period and He's in there working out. He's not playing and he went through speaking of Camp Janssen's is he hit. Thomas Cabriolet right way. Didn't play for like fifteen games or something and Cam Johnson. In New Jersey Hits Thomas Honest Cavalier play for Hamad Games. Don't call me on ten or fifteen games. He doesn't play until they play Jersey again. He plays he goes Jose. Cam Johnson fights them and back out again. It doesn't you know what I mean. So he was like spiraling really quick and he was. You know that can have really hit home because after what happened to him In in pro be dying and a lot of tough stretch. They're all the guys to brotherhood. That kind of did it and I did it. The most and I'm like you when I retired went through tough times financially and stuff and I could have done a book and I said no said Noah said kept saying no they simply had the most bites. You GotTa do a book as I'm not doing it already not ready. I'm not ready. I could've done a book and when I was you know tough times and no so I held out I held held out and finally I just had enough. Let's let's do this and I. I WanNa shine a positive light on on the job I did hidden. Well we all did and that was because I protect my teammates and Simon Schuster tried to make it all about fighting in hockey and hockey. And that's not why I did the book I actually did the Book Book. You know protected the people in Chapter Eleven capturing take the chapter chapter eleven out and that was you know the waiters the shoeshine guys that. TSA guys those type. Everyday people waiters bartenders. I tried to stick up for those people because I think the new world has changed so much in You know how I was brought up with my father and everybody else. That's our age kind of you know treat people. I want to be treated old school values and that's why I did it all those guys at died and so so I tried to shine a positive light on on fighting and ended up being you know number one best seller in Canada in five weeks in a row in Canada's pretty good for you know a guy that just a so called fighter that So I even those writers that Cup fighting and everything else you know. I'm not a raider. Their writers and none of them have ever had a number one bestseller and five weeks real. So I see I got a lot. Let me tell you. Though it's it's it's a tiring thing during a book and doing a tour and going to sell you. Probably you probably read all these stories or or or talk to them with whoever's helping with it and then I imagine imagine you gotTa Trim some of it out at some point because you're like maybe this would upset this law. You know I'm dyslexic. Right so listen to it and of course ended up going on a trip to Italy And and I kept saying no. I walked away because they kept taking chapter. Eleven out crazy enough right. Try to make hockey hockey fighting fighting. I was like that's not. I'm doing a book right. I wanted to do to treat people and be treated old school values. Some life lessons. I learned going through tough and treat people treat dedicated to my father and So that's at the end of the day and I could tell anybody that's going to do a book. Make sure you have every single line every single page and your contract that you get foul sake horse. Yeah that's how I did eh but we gotta go back. To the Toronto days you mentioned Pat Burns and Chuck Gomez was talking about him and just how stern he was and how he demanded the best from his his players. He was kind of a scary guy. Yeah he I was playing in Winnipeg and I was lined up in front of the bench in Toronto and I heard someone. I'm from the Toronto Ben so hey I might turn around and it burns because no I'm serious tie. I'd love to have him right side so no tampering so a week or ten days later I ended up getting a phone call from traded to Toronto and it was Pat Byrne. I told you I wanted you so You know we kind got to hit it off like right away and what. I got the Toronto He said I'm going to make you the player. Just you know this. And this and this and he was a special special coach I thank him and Pat. I was very blessed to have him in. Pat Quinn is my coaches and the one funny story was in In Chicago will we have little five on five brawl and He coach Chris. Chelios some Montreal and that was his favorite player all time so we have five on five. And Shelley's the only one that's not you know everybody else's line you know paired up with someone and so it's Celli. I grabbed shelley. And right I gotta I jellies Jelly. He said I don't know so I just kind of let them go. Let them go let them go all right. Let after the period Pat Burns. You had them at the tip of your fingers. What did you do you let them off the hook? No I didn't say anything right in front of the whole team. And he was like he's going to dip your fingers you had them. He talks like he's God was at the Chicago Blackhawks. Saudi we fly back to Toronto and trainers say Pat. Want want you in office. So I walk in there. And he's got Mr Briefs on nothing else quite the site but he stands up and AH I'M GONNA blast me any. He says Kamerhe I walk over his cutted Mr Bruce he goes. I love you man gave you hockey. I'm so sorry about that. He goes you showed him respect. Yeah for sure you know you know that was very respectful you and I love him You know that was very very nice. I'm very sorry for snapping on you so that was kind of bond that we had in that was when I got kicked in that you know this guy is pretty cool. What did he seeing you you that maybe you didn't see in yourself and we help develop your game? What what were the areas? Where he's I think you can get better here? I I see it in junior right okay. Let's play in topline with Mike Ricci so I think he he thought I can do that. NHL and You know he he did. He actually live by his word. In the playoffs. I played with sunshine and Gilmore in a line which was pretty cool. And you know that's where I kind of got my compass like a plane. NHL as a regular in the playoffs and so that was like ninety four right so so that was kind of where you wheeled around with these guys off the ice. Who's your who's your body right? It's not ours not snapchat. The Matt obviously like brother. We're tied at the HIP. We sat next feature the bus. The plane breakfast dinner. You know all that he was a shy guy quiet guy so he liked being around me because I was like I track the people go out while I was the one who kind of you know. Always took care things for us and t-ball slotting same thing and Winnipeg. It was the same thing and I was blessed to play team. Oh and when he scored seventy six that year. That was fun year to protect him while. Yeah that's right. You were there for his rookie season. I I'm not GonNa go to the hall of fame but I'm GONNA hold fame for assistant on his record breaking goal off fuck off. That's unbelievable I saw we keep it. PG B.'s Massari. Does if your daughter wants this no my my niece and nephew. I'm sorry I'm sorry. We're going to add corral. He's GonNa edit all swear words from this interview my apologies. I forgot where I was is team. USA Lonnie so Guy Special Guy. When when he went up to give his hall of fame speech he had written down in it? But you know when you get up there in the nerve start kicking in any actually forgot to mention you and then you're you know. Oh He's like oh I'm so sorry and he was like showing perils. Yeah to tell a story. Yeah so he mentions a bunch of people and You know you so you get two tickets right like two two tickets to give to people and plus your wife and you don't get tickets when you're going on fame I know 'cause Mareo and masses so so I've been there with those guys and so but he had you know as the tickets he gave for Peres and you forgot talked about it. But it doesn't matter. He showed us after he showed us the speech and he had us in there. So but Georgia Anson Foam with that. Yeah he probably had to buy a few rounds after that. Yeah Yeah it was good. He teams more one of the best teammates around him and Matt's obviously memorials in New York. Protecting Messier was it was a special like he taught me how to be a real pro and I was. I was blessed to play with Mesh and for sure. Ty said you couldn't be hurt. Did you ever have issues when you played like you hear about players having depression and those types of things did that affect you when you play. I'm just wondering you did. You wouldn't get hurt so did you have those same issues at all like you know. Go Down Dansko depression or anything like that while you know. I don't really think about that stuff you know a lot of talk about it As a lot of guys that Kind of been in the business. And what we've done but I try help a lot of those guys quietly and I don't imagine names but a lot over the years since I retired allows guys come up to me or respect me and I just try to be positive and at every day and they'd life's too short and long as you're trying to be positive every day and make a difference and that's kind of what ideal I try to stay busy. That's that's for sure. was Was Doug Gilmour their leader in that locker room when he was there yeah he was but he wasn't there long right because Matt's came right and insult they brought me in when they traded one formats. They brought me and protect Matson. That's a bird you said you take this big sweet. He could he. He's a difference maker Burns he brought me in to protect mats and had doug ended up After that year that first year. We're Matt Samarra with them. He ended up going on moving on but dougy was Doug made a big impact in Toronto and He's a great guy. Great teammate We got to play a window to window. Came back a couple of times so I you got to be friends with all those guys for years and I'm still friends with all those guys and you know the hockey the hockey guys once. You're friends with them and you see them. It's it's like old times. They pick up rate for your left off. It's pretty cool okay. Bill Light of this time. I WanNa talk about the situation Philadelphia with the Guy Falling into the penalty box squirt bottle take us through that whole story. I don't a lot of listens of familiar with it. Well you know Philly. I still play in there. I really did the fans. They love me but they hated needed. Me I still get fan mail from flyers we miss the Games aren't the same anymore but I you know I was getting beer poured on me and a AH. I got a lighter thrown at me and I turned around and I saw this guy you know and so I think John Leclair was another box. Johnny what mccullers. Your power over. There is a blue skin blue power eight. So I'm like I'm going to make this got a white shirt or whatever you want to make stain on his shirt so I start porn. The gator Porna- gatorade on him. You know the the blue stuff and any glasses really low. I was actually there to watch my son this year. The glasses high roof now. But it's pretty funny but it was shorter than the glasses like not too high and he kind of fell through. And you know. I thought I didn't think that's what's going to happen. But then he started punching Kevin Collins and Kevin. I'm pretty pretty close with linesmen and the referees. One when you're tough guys you're close with those guys and Kevin Collins one of my one of my boys you know so. Let's let's see once. I seen him throw a punch at cabinet. I stood. I gave them a couple jackhammers but he was a nice guy and the whole thing happened and I you know he was suing meave. Leave soon get the fuck Outta here the flyers you've soon comcast you soon. NHL You soon. Everybody and so. I'm like Oh my God. Let's go on. And every time hued lose he would appeal it. What's costing me it's cost 'cause I'm paying for had to hire pencil counts out of Pennsylvania to right so hire here the best lawyers in Pennsylvania and I'm paying the lease so how much running ya a lot? A lot haters. Get the hell out here. Oh Aw God I would assume the. I'll take the headline how it all ended so I'm getting fed up because it was appealing. His cousins is just doing it. His cousin apparently was a lawyer. And he's a really good tallies you know he was a bricklayer. Apparently he's a really cool guy and his name was Falcon Chris Pine Cone. So I I say to the lawyers. I meet a morning skate in Philly. At the four seasons there's four of them. I'll make guys how much. How much is this breakfast? Cost me I said you kidding me. We have to get this thing done like what's going on like negative lawn not Thailand. I would do that the forum so it's just cost me so I said give me the guy's phone. I want to call them. I want to talk to him. I want to see him like no no no. We can't get me his phone. Oh number please. I want to call them so finally they got me the guy's phone and I call them on the way the game with a couple of games left and we were playing the flyers in the playoffs. Okay first round. So it's second last game so I said get me associate on the way the game I call them. And I said Vulcan. It's tie Domi. He goes hoot. Don't screw around me Mandela. Who is not tie Domi here? Take my number fours. Fours number at the time was four one. Six four zero seven Domi right three six six four three. I used every number for three three six export Domi right. That was my. That's my surprise I'm GonNa Hang Up. I'm going to hang up calling me back. I hang up. He calls back. I told you man. Are you going to gain tonight at. Yeah yeah he's quiet said okay this is what's GonNa happen will do this low key but I'm going to have security already. Come bring it to room you and I are GonNa meet. I just WanNa talk to you face to face and he said okay okay. I said You promise he because Yeah Games over right away I take my stuff off real quick and I golder. 'cause I wanted to anybody came. I don't want anybody around. We're going this room and he comes in and he's like he thinks that I'm GonNa WanNa fight him or something right and I'm like hey man and I just shook his hand and hugged him. I said Hey I'm I'm a good guy just like you. I said you got wife and kids and he says yeah and I said well. We'll tell you what I said. We're playing the leafs in the first round. But if I fly you and your family to Toronto pushy up and gave me two tickets give you four tickets and You know we call it a day. We'll get the you know. And he's like yeah. Yeah I said Yeah you might WanNa come to trump. He's okay sugar and I told him I said just don't do don't tell the meteorite anyway. I it's all done. I had him signed off everybody so I got comcast off I got the flyers off I got NHL off. I got everybody off. He signed signed off on everything and he came to trotto. God bless the guy he's doing interviews in a God under and all of a sudden it was. Okay that's that's that's it's a real story how it all happened in you know it was You know people still talk about it everywhere. We were the guy the guy that fought the fan in Philly. So you know that's the a real story and that's how it ended and I had ended myself no lawyers so to say funny. What happens when you take the lawyers right out of it Yeah Warriors Man. Oh man they create more problems. Those guys are there any guys that I retired that you're not on friendly terms of it all from back in the day or was that stuff all these left on the ice. No it's left on the ice and the guys the literally really that That I failed against and fought against. I think I have more respect for than anybody because I know tough it was to do on a daily. Oh basis and Anytime I see or hear from any of those guys. It's always great to talk to them and you know. See what they're doing and stuff I I really The hockey fraternity is something. That's pretty cool and The people that That no you know you see that You know you haven't changed. And that's the whole thing is you. You still go at it. With Jackson stuff is fun. We kind of glanced over your New York days What do you remember most about playing in the Big Apple? Those were uh-huh probably the funnest times I had you know was regan after it a little bit single and you know going going to go into China Club which after studio fifty four and then China became kind of the place to go and after the fights I I became. AM kind of King of the club celebrity and New York at a young age. So that was Kinda cool. And then you know that Sally became buddies of Mario and and Waldberg from that blaze from China Club. Mark was they're going as Marky mark in any became the Calvin Klein model and so I got to know him pretty well. We're still your friends. You got a bunch of celebrity buddies. Jay Z's one of your buddies. Why he's he's through a-rod eras birthday when all the Yankees are throwing everybody in the pool? Jay Z had a box of cigars in hand the whole time and anytime anybody tried to throw him in. He'd come over me and his army me so that you're protected party. We're the only day rod says the only dry ones at the other night but Aj Brunette was on the team for the Blue Jays and he told everybody. Don't Piss Sky off campus guy so everytime G. C. J. Z.. Would just come. What was he like? was that Jay Z.. As in Guy Maze. You've actually played basketball night as actually really good basketball player. It was pretty impressive. He was going at a pretty hardly. They're getting into basketball games. If you're trying to get him to play soccer bring back. Oh you're you're old skills well that that was my number one sport. Actually you know people laugh you so I was actually a goal score the two. That was my sport now. The guy you had a few dances what was rob. Ray was just some chemistry thing. When anytime you on the issues when added well I I think you know I chase them around junior our whole careers and junior? He never fought. It was actually a decent player. Junior and Buffalo Awful Toronto was always the big deal. We've got a documentary coming out that they're going to air correct. Yeah it's on it and it's actually I The people posted on. Oh my instagram. Last night people were going nuts. I mean obviously there you should check it out. Check it out by the trailer. I watched four and it looks like meters data to the Andrew. Peters is I thought it was more interesting than a top gun to trailing right Laura Edge repeaters. You know him at all yeah. He's hilarious. Always wanted he. He does radio there in Buffalo as well. He was a tough customer. He had the instigators. You get a couple of good goes against Ray emery or at least one then I can remember. Remember that fights tough. He always tells people he beat me up a compe- seriously. Okay like I love you. He goes he told Max he goes. Beat your dad up at beat your dad up but he just loves it. He loves loves. The church robbery obviously did a good job of transitioning into media. You said You'd briefly like did it. Just not really interested after the first experience. Well You know if I do it and I might do it. it's GonNa be you know. Be Normal and being real right. I don't need someone telling me well. You know what to say or what to do and you know I'm I'm not that type of guy never have been a player or in life so If I do something which you know the opportunities have come quite a bit And I've always said no because I want Max to get the spotlight and his life and his career. Now he's played five years so no. I'm just starting to consider a little bit. But there's been a lot of cannabis companies a lot of whiskey companies and stuff just like you busy and I'm just trying to keep a hustler just trying to keep up go ahead and other till you a scratched. One time in you stayed at the hotel told second period of the game is that true. Is that a true story or is that was. I think it made it burns. You scratch your show pissed off healthy scratch you stated throughout hotel. You're giving wasn't when Pat Burns. I'll never scratch your pat burns. Okay I know that was that was that was the Montreal. I was Scratch healthy scratch. Actually John Ferguson. Junior yes me about people who do I dislike and hockey. He's probably the guy that I don't have any time for it all. He actually singlehandedly. Ruined the Toronto Maple leafs for many many years really. Yeah he's he's the guy for sure so he's the guy like what just make he had it out for me from the day took the job and trial. I don't know why but You know I think he found out that was kind of glue that team and what he read me in the and Matt's was the most pissed off guy you know when when they got into me so they missed the playoffs. I don't know like ten years after I left. So that's that's John Ferguson. Single Hanley he ruin that team And he put that team back many many years but That's the one guy that probably going back to your question earlier. I'm your super protective of Max an unbelievable kid which I don't blame you man. You love your kid to the death. How how long did it take you to realize this kid might have what it takes to make the NHL at what age people always ask me? That question and I always say that you know ironically enough you know that brick tournament and Edmonton. It's it's all the time I wasn't good enough. Kids top kids in North America. It's talk kids and North American out of Quebec it's called the brick term. Oh It's out of Quebec okay. I think Abington so before Quebec major he returned back as twelve okay. in Notre teams play turned by the ways he didn't get the plan that but the but the brick term Edmonton and my friend. Bill calm reaction started When you know Mike was Young? Oh that's okay that's some connection so it's the top kids in North America and Max actually led that termine scoring and and I remember bill. Show me a list of all the guys who played in that tournament and they were all the top scores in that tournament. We're all in the NHL at ten years old. I'm like holy smokes. That's that it's serious and Max was the leader Doc. Up years ago that all time leading scorer that term since he you know and when he was ten right so you knew that that was kind of you know he's a gifted the kid and he actually led determined scoring scorn one gold and the rest role assist so he still has a problem. Shoot new pocket but He always past past past past. He's always been the kid because he's always likes to please everybody in past Bass Bass and when when it counts. He starts to shoot and last year he shot and he started shoot again so hopefully he keeps you as an an old school guy. Do you ever get frustrated watching today's game when a dirty hit happens and nobody sticks up for the teammate. As best really in trouble yeah but You know my son You know watching my son play junior being the league school goalscoring having guys trying to hurt him without. That wasn't too who used to be be watching as a father you ask and being a father watching by fortunately for Max you can stick up for himself though but unfortunately when when you're leading score the team you're right you don't want to know why they're trying to get him off the ice they're trying to piss him off and so that's that was the toughest part as a father watching that transition -sition in the game because you know when I play junior. I protect the Mike Ricci when I turned pro I protect all the guys. Were leaving scores so my son didn't have the benefit of of having that so unfortunately he has the my DNA and you know we're GonNa get him the control of the more. I think getting better at it and I think he understands it. It really doesn't affect the game much anymore. Just it doesn't and you just got to keep your head up and be alert and I think a lot of injuries happen by accident because there's no no Red Line and guys are just flying and getting hit by accident or you know obviously Guys aren't protect themselves. You can't just go into the boards and turn your back and not expect to get hit. You got to protect yourself so I think there's a lot a lot to do with accountability and when we played we made guys accountability and accountable for what they're doing and I think the League wanted to take kind of that out of the game and they they're trying to really police the game and I think I think the way we did it. I think it made a league is a little more reluctant little more hesitant to do things and I think they. They knew if they hit somebody that I was coming in the probes coming and like they just knew. And now there's no more Calvin and that way you might get a suspension or a fine but it's not really you know it was at the turn on the other team just isn't there. Yeah Yeah So. It's a little different right. What do you make of all this This instagram and social media stuff. And how oh Max Max has done capitalizing off. And he's working with brands. He's doing the thing with the type. One diabetes I try and actually take him take some takes some pressure off him because You know he has so much demand especially with in the type one world and which is great what he does for kids and that's really why he wrote. The book is because everywhere he goes the league you saw yourself. You know there's type one families wait all over the country form North America and There was more he would get thirty seconds or a minute. Because you know you've done you gotta get on a plane and he didn't get to spend that quality time with people to help them but he would he. How he does is just amazing? Because I I get emotional just talking about it but he wrote that book to actually tell you know life experiences that he's gone gone through and help not only kids but families to to deal with because it is a real thing day it's There's no question and you've got to be on top that and it's manageable and just going to be on top You know instead I wanted to bring up was the L. Samuelson Punch as a Boston Fan. Louis liked it. So what precipitated that event between you and him well you know. It's one of those so long ago but he called me dummy times. My Dad died the year before so I took dozen salt when someone called me tied dummy dummy instead of domiant took insult my dad's any set it a few times and I said if you say again go knock you out and ended up knocking amount games you get for our Eight actually that was burkey. So you know that's why I like Burkey because he let me off the hook. I think eight Games was pretty fair because I did not come cool. We're GONNA talk about your relationship with Mario Lemieux and how how did that all start. Everybody always ask asset question to. He actually told that my My Birthday party which was quite Iran. M saying anything you know kind of you you know. It's like pulling teeth right but he actually told her story and I was skating around. I'm hugh skate around warm up at Madison Square Garden. He was Marilyn Meal ninety-one ninety-two MVP. Ian Stanley Cup and everything had long hair and I heard him say something. And I'm like what I'm stretched at center ice got my foot over the read. My staring down Jay Caufield and what did you say it. He's lied. He kept skating around. He's laughing and he comes back to center ice. He does a circle ORKLA center and unlike against port. I'm stretching down on the ice a comes over. And you know he he saw Tali Tali Benz over. And I'm just ready to CEOS and he says no tie seriously. Can you get me in ten of my teammates in China club tonight. And I'm like yeah it's Marilyn Miller so Anyway goes on and ends up scoring four goals. Get Out of here. Yeah and the right. The China China Club Games over and everything and win a closed-door meeting. I still got my pants and my skates on but I got my staff often. We ten minute meeting whatever and then a meeting that ten ten fifteen minutes at least and then the media comes in like you know like a bunch of cattle coming in and then the security guy says tyrone in Maryland USA the door I'm like what is Maryland music or so. I walked my skates on straps. He was hair Gel and everything with tie on suit and everything already showery must have had one of those showers. They just walk through a period practice. Shut it down to set. You just embarrassed this but you know I said go call over any go. He's you gotta come come drink right. I don't know you just kind of embarrassed anyway. I ended up going and hit it off their friends. Ever since and Best Buddy sends basically part owner of the Pittsburgh Penguins. I see in the owner's box when he was winning well when he actually went through tough times when he's GonNa lose a team that was a that was a difficult time a and B.. I was actually with them. When you know that whole thing happened when they got cross but yet the lottery and crosby was it was quite a surreal moment? What was what was the reaction action? When I heard the news? What did he say fuck? We just got crossed. He's still has the ice packs on his cheek seven but it changed. You know changed changed lead but it can happen to a better person family now like my brother so chill I like my sister. You know so. I'm very close with the family and the kids in the special family. There you know be best buddies forever on the PODCAST. When he got a dog and Mara had to clean up shit because it took a dump? We're up in his living room. Something somewhere that somebody gets home and Mario lemieux cleanup is dog. Shit well story. I got my hip surgery and Pittsburgh and Mariel pick me up at the hospital and I stayed in his guest room in Pittsburgh and you know I was sick I was getting sick. Throwing up is walking into it holding me up on is thrown up. Is this while you're playing. Yeah Yeah Yeah what else playing. So he you know uses and he's a real guy and I'm one of the few that are pretty blessed to be very close. My brother and Natalie's is the same. That's all social people you you fall out the game on a day-to-day basis. KEEP TABS on every game every school like legit fan or no I try I try I you know I love. I love watching hockey obviously and But I try you know we all we all got busy lives and do a lot of different things but I try and watch most much all Canadians Games. And Obviously Watch my friends teams. In last night I watched Arizona after much. Your game and Taylor Hall you know making that play on the winning goals you know. That's why traits happen is makes it thinks curious and they're in first place awesome so happy for talk in Arizona because the you know the they've been suffering for a long time out there anything else you want to any any other stores you WANNA in a share before we wrap this thing up. I mean we've taken enough of your time your incredible diving deep into the psychological aspect of the fighting any other source source mortimer. No I love your honesty. decided out of control at the end of the day. Dave we ourselves right keep it real and I think what's What's most important? Is You know one people treat you with respect to you know give back in. I have always been that way and busy. been always very respectful. And why wouldn't trust because he'd fucking feed me my lunch either way but you always been pretty funny this. I always look looks. Aren't everything We actually forgot to ask you about Eric Guide. And how how you became so close with our CEO. Now you're kind of training and turning into this hockey player Erica. She's a let me tell you like you talk about female leaders and CEO's and when I first met her. I was very impressed with her. How she came across and she's very straight for? What like very clear and straightforward and? She said I think she said is. I'm I just started hockey and I love it and I said you love it and she said Yeah I love what can you tell me I said. Just keep if if you love it just keep eappen join it and she kept me messages that this is what I did today. This is what I did say this one doing. She's better than me now. She escaped backwards better than me backwards and that she made this sweater that Said Tie Domi is my spirit. Animal Sweatshirt people start asked me how. How can I get those sweatshirts? Barstool sports Sports or so. I told her Eric I want these. I'll make them but you you know it's great to see someone so passionate about the game in the she's really loving hockey and and that's what I said like You know what's going on with the women's hockey. I think it you say you know what what I'd like to talk about. That's one thing I think is is really needs push is woman's hockey because we want we want girls growing up to have some kind of inspiration to to say. I can play pro hockey and just like a lot of these girls that have done it. And they're the hall of fame and to take that away from I think is is just a shame I think the NHL any NHLPA really have to get involved so you think they need to the buck up and think of a structure where they can even if it's at a loss for a few years to get it going one hundred percent and all the markets that make money you you know in hockey. I think we could pick six of the top Big moneymakers and good franchise even if it's original six right right. Let these girls have something. Because they're fifty percent the fans out there they're fifty percents of pay in the salaries out there right. So you gotta give them something and and I think that's something where I think you know the NHL have a lot of differences and I you know I've been living in this game for a long time. And you know everybody pays her dues and you know what you get when you retire from the NHLPA Y- you still gotta Pay Your Health Insurance. I think that's one thing that the NHLPA OPA has to do is take a player's forever. The plate over two hundred games and there's twelve hundred guys. I two zero two so I'm definitely down with that. It's only twelve hundred guys living having the plate right. Yeah twelve hundred guys. It's it's actually crazy the amount of players that have played in the NHL people think it's such a high number twelve hundred twelve hundred play. Two hundred games at that are living that are living. Yeah I think it's it's it's under like five thousand players all designed twelve hundred t t today so you know the MBA has healthcare forever so well think about it. You're paying dues for what I paid. I played seventeen years and after that I gotTA pay thirty five forty thousand expensive a year for healthcare. You GotTa do something so if if you're not taking care of girl taking care women's hockey and you're not taking care of your players after careers. What are you doing so NHLPA has to really kind of? You've never argue that point I would just say it's hard to force a business to take a loss knowing that but if they could set something up in order to make a revenue extreme and and make it be able to watch the game game. Why Watch when they're usually at the Olympics alive game oh I know I've never been to alive females game I don't okay well I've been to a few go? Do yourself a favor all right and go watch a walk tonight game and I watched it. I watched them three times now. I watched it twice a month. y'All wants to trial and let me tell you. They got a lot of skill and not only skill they got a lot of heart and they leave it all out there and you know paying fans we'll go see these we'll go see these girls Women play and you think eventually a lucrative thing I'd do. Fifty percent of the crowd is is girls woman woman so like you're GonNa have interest and and what do they have right now. They don't have anything right now. They don't have anything because it's taken away from so I'm a true believer it's got it's gotta be fixed and that's on the NHLPA in the NHL to to get that right. I love it will tie thank you for joining us. you're you're a beauty congrats on a hell of a career and the record and fights three hundred thirty three. I guess never broken visit. Won't even nobody will. Scratch is the surface. I don't think anyone's GonNa get over one hundred more starting now so it's a little but you ended up. Plus I have no idea I hadn't yet the double digits I was is getting all my face beaten and the minor. Well you know but the one thing I wanted to tell you about the Pelham minutes thank you know. You're saying third all time when I started my career the tens in a game misconducts. They were eliminated. Awesome earned those minutes right. When Tiger Williams fought he would get to five ten at a game so he got twenty seven minutes every time he would get in a fight at the end of the game? He just did it. He did it all time so people ask me. How did Tiger Williams have so much So many more payments. But you don't tens game conroy. Contacts are tend to get the other to Tan right because it can be Kinda came side but I get what you're saying so it's twenty seven minutes twenty seven minutes so you get ten and you get a game. So that's twenty minutes. Jesus Christ you get five and you get two for instigate five ten in the game. That's twenty seven minutes every time and if you look up the stats. How many times that you probably should have got a lot of tens pens in your day tie so once again? Thank you again. wits back thanks guys time. What happened a wet He had to go to. NHL Network tonight. Oh Yeah Yeah and we couldn't pass you up dude. I Don I will all right. Thanks big MACs. The Tie Domi join US headquarters. Last month really really enjoyed talking to him. I watched them punch a lot of faces growing up. So it's pretty wild to sit there next next to me. He does get a fucking squash on top of that but a lot of a lot of fun chat with him. This is great Quick Note Sheldon Keefe won fifteen out of his first twenty games as a maple leafs coach. She's the first maple leafs coach to ever do that. beliefs currently have a ten game point streak longest almost fourteen years so leaks making a move to the playoffs. Sarah Westwood Doug Yeah they are. They're on a complete. They've met on a run like that's since Oh five or six I think And you know you talk about Matthew's he's having an MVP type season he's awesome but you gotta look to depth guys in what's changed since Keeps taking over and look at the Pierre Angle. I don't know if I'm saying his name correctly adds a ton of speed To the you you know the bottom sex. He has six goals in twenty one games. So Ev you check out his hockey EP picture. If there's women listing and you look you might start rubbing yourselves because he's frigging hats shed shit is hairs on unreal in this picture. I'm looking at don't know anything else about him. So good for him and good for the leafs deal to bring in some guys you haven't heard in years past that are like I said bringing some new blood to that team I. I'm an address. One thing and some people might be like now. Things are going great. They don't need it. They need a little bit of toughness. They need to add somebody on that roster for when if they do in fact get matched up against Boston again they they need somebody able to push back. How Good Josh Anderson B. on the leafs? Wow Yeah I mean I'm just thinking guys. That would just be like perfect for them Powell. Right Lord's second one. I'm just telling my brain's just working. Oh now it'd be an unbelievable fit now. I haven't really researched it. Who would be a guy who's available coming up here maybe identities contract who who could play a limited role to add that type of toughness? Simmons signed a one year deal. Wow that's a that's a great dot right off the top of your head. He might be slowing down a little bit and some people might role there. I'm uh I'M GONNA say another name I'm I'm describing my guy I'm trying to call me a fucking idiot okay. He may be a little bit but he does have experience gets he can for today's standards. He's very tough. He always brings a physical play. He knows exactly what his role is. Kyle Clifford he's comfortable with Jake Muhsin as in you can slide right into that locker room. I don't know that's just a name. It he may be an in and out of the lineup guy. At that point some people might think fucking in crazy. Wayne Simmons obviously a lot better option for to add some type of offensive ability in front of the net on. But yeah people shoot me messages ages a candidates that you think if if you do think that they need to address that situation But overall you said Matthews on pace for over fifty goals James CBS myrtle. Lets US know after every game. Show with the myrtle but they got a lot of good things going right now maybe also adding a competent backup goaltender. That could be another thing that they need to just address but a lot of good things happening and leaf land in congrats to Sheldon Keefe. He's definitely going to be if he keeps. This course pay recourse of Pace Path. Of course helped me out your tap me in somebody I will. I I want to defend Hodgson. We've given them some shit that's three wins in a row for him. Her first shuttle cars actually last night so at least at least I know what you're saying but at least the last three man he's he's picked it up okay. Things are things are going very well to see whether it's a little bit resistance and things aren't if he can still step up. Uh I was talking about Keith and I got lost in the fucking word salad but I was thrown out. But he's he's going to be like a Baru Bay type where if they keep going like this he he might be up for coach of the year. See what happens Biz Somebody with somebody double dip it on the thousand game bonus here something you wanted to bring up a what business Busy this started puking everywhere right all over restaurants crazy well Dallas Center video the walk in and that That got me a little ill and take some gravel and just thinking about all those young guys in the Dallas Locker Room still on Angela contracts in this motherfucker comes over here nine hundred and fifty or sixty games in to his career and I got a fucking sack and pay now. They end up getting a nice trip. The whole family is going to Ireland Orland or was it Scotland for a golf vacation. PAVILION GONNA go shoot under par at haunt dreams. But then I hear we're going to also say this I want to lobby for in the next. CBA where if that situation happens the team where he played over nine hundred games names for is on on the hook for the for the gift well by ended up here in that the San Jose Sharks also got him a rolex. Joe Pavelski Hausky talk about being. Well liked handsome. Beautiful families good at every sports. A millions and millions in the bank trip to Scotland Golden League big old white probably got a cock down on his knees alrighty. Then Oh gosh really do have it. All prior to January first of this year that only been eleven any jealous who had played in four. What decades well you can add three names to that list as Sodano Jarrah? Patrick Milo and Jumbo Joe Thornton of all played now and four decades. That's pretty insane when you think about it man. That's I mean the the start of the first decade. There was no internet right early. Nineties was their Internet. Actually yeah technically. There was no like wasn't commonplaces but either way impressive has held. I mean before that Gordy Howe. George Armstrong Cabrel. Bobby Hull REBAC. Mark Messy ride brindamour. Chris Chelios Mike Madonna. Mock recommend you Schneider. Those raw the guys who played in four decades actually gordy outplayed didn't five decades and now big jumbo Joe Patty Milo and big Z joining that Croak predicts -clusive company and hazy like we talk about what people around here don't complain about because sometimes he is a little slow and he's GonNa get burnt on occasion with all. These young guys burn speed up the WAZOO. But he's still pretty fucking effective out that no sticks the length length of his own. I mean how is he not going to be effective and he'll beat the piss out anyone if he wants to. You know I saw that. He's a bubble hockey player. He stays in the exact is. He's a bubble hockey defense with he stays exactly is lying. You know exactly what you're getting. Every night he blocked shots touched the top of the bubble. Fuck people thinking. That was an insult. I don't need fucking that Newton. Come after me yeah. You definitely don't want that happening. Hey that's a long time. 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You get your first month of swipes for just five dollars when you choose a monthly plant if you use the like get Roman dot com slash tickets once more. That's get Roman dot com slash chick. Let's keep that career gone Biz Do get a little bit more news before we get to a second interview a very tough break for the island they announced Defenseman Adam. Pellett has done for the season with an Achilles tendon injury and they did recall Sebastian. I know this pal. You might not be a household name but it's a huge loss for the island is. He's on that top here second in minutes. He's one of these guys who does a ton on his own zone. Where have you seen? This guy played this year. I have he has a Canon is. Here's a can unarmed picking a pool. Lock right yeah exactly. There's very similar names but pellet job yeah I don't know I haven't seen them enough to really know what he brings things but anytime you have a a defense. That's playing major minutes on a team. That's having a really good year. Especially keeping the puck out of their own their own net. They're going to miss him. So that sucks because because Achilles Oh my God have I heard the Rehab is just nightmare when they dig away when you're laying on the table. I guess it's just a very painful long. The absolute best wishes to him. That's one of my fears. I heard when you snap your Achilles you. Let's say you're running. My Buddy was planning a flag football game and it snapped apt. And he thought the guy behind the MIC kicked him in the back of the leg and he liked turnarounds. Fucker you do it. The other guy was like ten yards away as what like we talked about and then all of a sudden it rolls up into the back your knees so very nasty injury get well soon buddy out doesn't sound like much fun. Hey boys should we send it over to the boss now. What yeah all right all right nice to finally sit down with Erika's Big Fan of ours? We she helps so it a lot so I think it was long overdue that we sat down with her. So there's a strong correlation there. Erica Nardini learning how to play hockey title is helping her out. Also in the title me interview. We talked about the women's hockey and how passionate about it and how he wants to see that the you know the League be successful and Erica is also oh on the same boat and I don't even think they'd talked to each other about it. Maybe they had in the past but We're going to try to do some things as women's hockey moving forward so hopefully I enjoyed the interview. Um We're sitting here. We used to be joined by the CEO. The boss lady the Queen of Barstool Erica. Nardini came you guys need to sit down and talk to you about women's hockey. So what do you have for us. Yes well as the foremost authorities on women and hockey look at each one of you respectively on. Yeah I want to know what your opinion lead the charge. You really are busy word. The poster child for for women's and although I said when that all that ordeal was going on online about You know the fact that they weren't being paid appropriately I I. It'd be fun to own a team net. Maybe Women's League team if they could figure out the infrastructure where at least for breaking even in if not maybe you know at least You know you're losing money you're saying how do you not lose money. That's my issue. So here's my issue with women's hockey though like the pipeline for women's Hockey Awesome Youth Girls Youth hockey awesome full big pipeline. But then you say playing college fine and then what happens. So that's the issue like there's been different leagues and then one leak folded right. Yeah I wish I knew one hundred percent so I'm like going on what I kind of remember. I will say this about about women's hockey. Th you saying the infrastructure is good and it's only getting better so I think it's the fastest growing sport in the country and the US talked me in twenty years. I know that sounds insane to say but I just think it's so early in the game. Something we'll get figured out but as of right now it's just hard because nobody's figured out. What will actually get these girls to be paid what they deserved to be paid aide while also turning a profit and having fans show up like it hasn't been able to happen yet really? Yeah they're going to have to implement I think the already do this now where they do. These essentially mini tournaments. Were they all go to the same location that we fans can exit sixteen so they do it like the P L l like the like who gives a fuck about across right same Kinda same thing to say. Does I love Paul Real. This is what he did so he then he created a tournament style so that you go ten weekends a year six games To festival environment. You sell tickets. You could do that for women talk. I think you need to in order to start out to get the ball rolling to give people attached to it and maybe we do live streams as well in order to grow the female broadcasting side of it maybe only female broadcasters coaches and where you know I as a Guy Mike sure make it all. Women's grow them and just not only the playing aspect. But also the other roles in hockey whether it be scouting analytics Blah Blah Blah so Yeah I I love the idea. I hope they could figure it out because I think it only benefits all of us if the game grows itself but if you look at for me at least the most watched women's sports beside soccer when the world cups on its own anise and it's individual woman's force right. I mean I don't like what what is the most popular woman sport on TV think WNBA. Not So. Yeah it's it's like. I don't think it's a broadcast model. I'm seeing the product to get people to go the better. These girls get and they are getting now. There's clips and I don't I hope this doesn't sound clips of if the girls have long hair you're like is that a twelve year old boy or girl. They're actually right. He looked fast. They look that's killed as soon as the product reaches a different level. That's when they'll have a chance but players are improving enough but it just going to take time. Yeah I think right now or before it's watching. It's just slow compared to one. There's another thing too right. I mean it's just I mean that's biology right. There right men are going to be faster. And that's it's how all works. But what about maybe making the rink a little bit smaller and having like a specialized where there's more scoring chances. It takes less time to get around around. I don't know wait so do you think the NHL has to be involved. I think they do in order in order for it to to get to the size that they might want it to get but the problem is is like as as someone who understands businesses. I'm not going to waive my finger and tell them do this and lose money because we WANNA make these other people happy it has to be an investment standpoint is where if they think they can grow it and get more females involved in all of a sudden not you know evens out in a revenue stream based on people consuming their product. Sure I heard there's people who are like start a women's league you fucking assholes where it's like. Whoa they have the NBA? Who are making a lot more money? who have that model auto going on right now and check the books? It's not doing great so I I want. I don't want these women to be given something again where it's just GonNa fail again where it's like Like they have to give it some thought. Think of a game plan and be able to execute it and another thing too is while all these people waving their finger. Well let's The let's play presell the pay per view so to speak. Then let's buck up and fucking if you're going to point your finger and fucking tell people to do something in order to make it. You know in order to grow it I and and make it available for both genders then fucking pay for the package that you're gonNA live shooting the Games on before it's even created all right. There's got to be like come on. There's gotta be Vano Erica. Knows you stand up twice in the arena when there's a goal and there's a fight so you understand for fighting writing. I mean we'll do it between periods me and me in our. Al Go out there with the sumo outfits on and fucking show but but on that note no I hope the female The the ladies get a professional league and they can continue to grow their talents and everyone can win be successful because it no. It's Shitty these. Girls are are talented enough where they should be playing playing at four living in staying in shape for the Olympics. And it's just we gotta figure out another thing we've gotta talk about voters your new best friend Tie Domi teaching play hockey obsessed with them and you got him for an interview for us Later this afternoon. We're excited about that. He don't fuck it up the only idea. I'm him every everytime I skate idea my videos. It gives me a little feedback like my coach. Yeah well people don't like what's your back story even getting into bars till you became the CEO this things just taken off ever since you arrive not a big deal but you enjoy it you love it really. How did it all come to be? I mean I read Barstool. I wore a lot of Marshall. GRONK sixty nine. My favorite t-shirt ever I'm like that's the maturity level. There you know but I loved Barstool. It's basically in you know it's like what guys in Boston read. Its way they talk until they think of a small back in an influential in Boston you know what but like nothing like it was now I met the Charon group when they made the investment with Dave I was working in music I had a company music. Basically they said. Hey We we just invested in this company. You've never heard of called Barstool sports and I was like I fucking heard of. It pulled out the APP I was like. Here's everything these guys are doing right. Here's everything these guys are doing wrong. And I had modeled old as working with Justin Bieber. I'm modeled a lot of his stuff on what David where like. I would read an article on deflate gate. And then there'd be a free Brady t shirt and I was like. That's exactly what you should do if you're bieber and you're like he was launching the purpose to her and the purpose album. You listen to sorry. You unaware the sorry shirt like you gotta serve it up right away. So net net. I met Dave through a mutual friend like six months later we totally hit it off so there was no application they just basically grabbed you. Oh no they had been through. They had interviewed like everyone. They could find anyone yet. Audits but Dave and I met like randomly not through the why because a- is it because they just didn't understand what what the core values were and what it was about what day was about. They didn't fans before before they barstool is small then like like there were twelve people like it was a blog like it wasn't that was how big it was when when the charity sixteen. Yeah Chernow Churning Birds Fox August two and they moved to New York. It was very small. And we're like what is this thing. Why would I go work? They must from Boston unless you're from Boston. Unless you are a fan of it and you understood how big it was in my opinion. That's my opinion on it and then it just was hard like it's I mean. Can't you see a bunch of suits coming in here and being like you should do this. This is how how this should be like would never work. So so that was it so then I came. is a fair to put a number on the company right. Now what what what was it valued at when you stepped in with With that make twenty double digits low double digits. I would say it's now we're doing you know I don't know what our exact valuation is but we're doing almost one hundred million dollars in revenue so it's grown a lot. Isn't that fucking crazy from a from from basement is now a pigeon toed short clown who cut his own hair to a media mogul in New York soil drink oil drilling oil drilling supermodels us on camera captain of the Edmund Oil drillers up Erica. What about Pink Whitney? Because you've had Clinton the two people who are here in America they they're really the two who kind of you guys put your heads together and all of a sudden the drink came along with me. I'm staring but where did you even picture this like starting off offer you like were you look. There's a chance we'll sell. Maybe like one hundred cases awesome about you guys is that I think you get your people like people. Love Love Chocolates. Okay like the audience is hard so hard core. I love you too. I think you're like infinite towns like you're funny like we did when I I did an interview this week. and which is cracking himself up various so funny literally no one else is laughing and laughing at himself answering three but editor for Forbes. Okay it wasn't funny like like business questions. Oh we did Forbes interview for the Pink Whitney Up Yup thanks for the call guys fuck myself but anyways like I think the other thing is like business so entrepreneurial entrepreneurial like you're just a great marketer working with brands like off wipe up just like do I get to work with fucking products that I use. And they're GONNA pay amy. Do endorse them. It's just like I was given that each. I'm detox sat at the table. I don't have the Sunday scariest today because I took it to go. Oh it's great. It's great ooh that's just an example the address But anyways so I think you can feel sometimes when you make a product if it's going to work or it's not going to work and I always felt it with pink mostly because it felt real for you guys like and I thought I thought new Amsterdam did a good job. I think they underestimated how big we are. I think they. That's that's a problem to this day. Like it sucks not being able to give people what they want like you know. Let's remind our listeners. She went to bat for us. And it's not like some battle going honest the new Amsterdam Holy Shit like we didn't expect it s none of us did and so I said Oh no. You're good and then obviously me being the only Canadian the pod castle may guys this is bullshit represent and and you know we mentioned a hardcore fan bases and we all stroke them off back. You know having said that in the end like you rarely ever get something nothing perfect the first try and I would much rather people really want it and be trying to get it and it selling out then them have made too many and we look like complete fool so it sucks right now but at the same time they no one could have thought that this happened the other thing just to give you some context for it. Is that like think about what's happening at Gallo right now like they. They have like so I went to the plant. I like flew to Modesto went to the California like hey in like farm country California. They have all these bottling plants. Okay and they have this thing. They don't run like Barstool Sports. It's down to a science. How many bottles? How many hours the machines Ron? How many people work on them? And they've got to do it across every brand that they own and it slotted for months and years in advance and we come in with the pink vodka and have to kick everybody else else off the bottling line like the the impact. It's having on their business because they got to figure out how to keep up with demand. I I'm not sure this is something thing they've ever seen either. And that's Kinda like it is with Barstool and I think it was like when you guys were doing. Chocolates is like when something gets ahead of you. It's awesome but you're like constantly trying to catch up and figure it out and they are just in that boat. Yeah I mean we're trying to grow so fast and and keep continuing to give you know videos and interviews interviews to our fans whereas sometimes it's like. Oh well why didn't we do this. Fuck man we'd never done it before. Stay above water trying to stay above water and we're and that's sometimes you alarm. We we asked the fans try to back off and be a little bit sympathetic like man. We're just the four of us. We do have other shit going on like I've never been in the space before and we're learning as golf so you know it's it's but but saying that you guys have set set us up with a nice infrastructure were able to just focus on the creative and in growing us our brand for our fancy dance when I actually remember right when you came on Biz. We all had a conference call. Where Eric was on their gadgets on there too I think And even then would you coming on. We knew it was going to get bigger but Erika was the one that said you guys have no idea. I think that how much more or less listeners you can get and how big you guys does he get and I was like. I don't think I don't what she's talking about. I saw kind of where we were able to before. I thought we would be able to. So thank you for that. Yeah you guys are awesome. I love this pot anchor straight to anything else you WANNA talk about. No I think you guys are great. I love your fans of pot. Hockey is going to be exciting. He's GonNa be bag We got the West Coast are the newer version of the West. Coast wagon to her coming up because we are going into the All Star game going to classic Saint Louis will be Jan user another outdoor game. We're going through to the stadium series. which I I will say this? I thought it was a cast. Grab I from what I read read online anyway. I went to that Boston Chicago. One at at Notre Dame stadium the energy and there was incredible. I thought the game was incredible. I just the overall overall atmosphere I think it was worth worth every penny that I would have had to pay. If I would've had to pay for my ticket love that we share it. We appreciate all that you guys do. So thanks for coming on thank Sir thank you very much once again to the CEO of Borstal the woman. Who makes it all happen around there Erica Nardini? We appreciate you very much coming on and all your help as always an Ra you have a couple of other Finishers here. We're going to gambling corner but before that we had a few few funny moments in hockey the light aside if you will Saturday Nado a about calling white bus. All this is Hailey. Should this wasn't a goal. He looked like Palay the hit the crossbar. They must've went fucking fifty feet in the year. Finally come down and Colin like the old fucking jumped up and headed into like a soccer player. Jimmy snuka cocoa butter style but of course it. It didn't count because you can't cocoa about the puck into the net but it would be fucking hilarious if if they would allow that how this what is critical member it's from. WWF Jimmy as long as TV headbutts cocoa by okay. I actually say that. Sometimes I didn't know that that's where it was from though man used to say it. Maybe maybe the Samoans do we have to mention. That shod did at first. Apparently because if you don't you'll get a death threat from from Blackhawks Fan Holy Shit show I did I. I might have been in the playoffs. It was a big one the playoffs so that's skill play and I get where where some people can make the argument with people want to be able to kick the puck in the net. And they say that that's a skill play You deal with escape blades. And we know how those can go. I think that's a little too dangerous just but headbutting come on. That's gotta be a fucking goal. That is a beautiful beautiful beautiful skill. Play and I wouldn't be shocked that the League looks at it moving forward order. Change a rule where you can head by Puck in the net and it was the rat rink to rat rank of all people who get done call in White Nice extension this summer and you know He. He's a rat murky kito call themselves that and he's able to head a pocket and they don't let it stand i. I don't like it I don't like it. What do you mean as he hangs around the arena all all day? Yeah he was trying to say he was a rink rat and on. TV tragedies like Obama rat rink come on. Oh you're GONNA love beautiful Whitey Rink also another chuckle on Friday night. Washington's Nick Dowd picked up on Jewish veteran clubs Dick and Washington's nick doubt picked it up anyone over to the glass and throw it over to the glass to a fan. Who was wearing gloves? FUCKING JERSEY I. I was kissing my pants laugh and like you got a ten minute misconduct but that is absolutely aware that one hundred percent with nick doubt play with them in Manchester Manchester. WanNa call their cup of them. I've been hitting pen pretty hard. I don't know if I've mentioned that this episode but Yeah I was a busy Megan Shadow as you were riding around on a boss But yeah sick title. I'll congrats I think this is just a great move. He's giving away a souvenir to a fan and sure enough the fan that he threw the stick to had that Schiff gobs. That's Nikolov yeah stress. The COP I'm struggling here had soul not even close the first one Schnitzer Cov. I suspect that's to carve. The Fan had his Jersey on so he gave him a souvenir I it was actually one of the most thoughtful moves by an opposing player. You could ever imagine. And he's unselfish guy who's just thinking about the fans and the guys who pay the price of tickets to pay your salaries stories. They should actually you know how they usually find guys for legal checks and stuff for stupid stuff like two thousand five hundred bucks. They should take twenty five hundred out of that fund and pay nicked out out for doing such a nice gesture for a fan. I agree have you ever seen that before. Guides taken an opponent's equipment thrown into the crowd Yahoo Harpoon style to an away rink. He's got a guy right in the chest when through braveheart down now Bakersfield. I think I think our guy was a little pissed off about the outdoor game where he basically swim for. It was water water polo match anyway. Sorry maybe maybe he just needs to calm down a little bit and that's come with a capital c calms the number one. ATF Asleep and meditation and calm has teamed up with Lebron James to help you train your mind. We talk about physical fitness. A lot but mental fitness is just as important important in so isn't talking Lebron conlow that your the mind is like any other muscle in your body. Kotkin help you train your brain. seuss sleep better. Have less stress and perform at your best for Lebron. James Sleep is an important part of his mental fitness routine. He says getting good sleep and finding time to rest is one of the most valuable things I can do for my body and mind and if you head over to calm dot com slash slash chocolates. You'll get forty percent off com premium membership with COM. You'll have access to nature scenes. Lebron loves like rain on leaves and so much more more like sleep. Stories and meditations for a limited time how listens conjoined Labron and using com with a forty percent discount to an annual membership at Com dot com slash chocolates on what content to help you focus east stress and sleep better get started at dot com slash tickets that's com dot com slash tickets. I liked that Biz. How you like me now yes? Sleep is very important. Absalon one note one other other note on Bakersfield when we played there the back alley on the way to the rink was corn avenue. I believe the ban corners from Bakersfield. I I I loved corn. They've such music this and they have about six songs that I would still throw on and listen to I never have you ever being screaming. The APP there's ones where they're a little bit more mainstream where I'm not down with the. Yeah I love him to death metal to okay I'll I'll spotify them and I actually think I remember song. It's definitely not just screaming into a Mike. I could see why people Dan because the the lead singer's hair I don't think he's ever washed it. He has dreads but he didn't need the wax to make them. He just use the grease from his actual hair. He's got a terrible salad. I'd rather have our as salads. I time for the gambling corner. Enjoy too bad last week. Philadelphia Yagudin earlier in the week by got some back with Dallas and then we finished the week with a winner who was my other Pikhoya. Colorado people give me shit for pick uneasy when about whatever W W so looking ahead to this week though Monday night I like Columbus Columbus. They're out in La Last week this team. I don't particularly give a betting for or against because you never know what you're GonNa get but I I like what I see how this Columbus this team I like the way. They responded to losing their goaltender. So I'm going to be jumping on them Monday in La. They shouldn't be too much of a money line favorite. So we're going to say Columbus on the money line and half of that will go on the puck line and look ahead to Tuesday The Canadians there in Detroit. They do for a win. I know that's old Kim. Yeon one axiom for the generals like myself but They're going to win in Detroit. DETROIT DETROIT construction. They one of the worst teams in the League. And I'm watching. AL is is way overdue for a win. So we're going to jump on Montreal and Detroit Tuesday night Same thing going to go money line and Park Line as well so a blog it. I'll have a blog up Monday so you can check that as well while more time Columbus Monday in La Montreal. Tuesday in Detroit. All right. I think because you're mentioning the Columbus blue jackets the surprising Run they've had lately. We should be able to give a little credit due to Zach Renske who scored two goals on Saturday night as the I defender will jackets history to get fifty goals for the team so at a young age where where he's at now granted he won't come on the show and he's Steph twice We gotta I showed him for a nice little start to his career on a on a team that surprised a lot so that was my at the end of the podcast. Nilly go bitch you have anything and you like to add. Oh you WANNA wish everybody a happy week Last thing I want to say is a the TSN crew that goes overseas and spend time away from their families during the holidays. They do an incredible job. They they are when I think of World Juniors I think a Rafer Gord Miller I think is drager still. They'll doing it. James Dougherty body Mac. He's he's Bobby Mack. All those guys like they go non fucking stop and they have to know all all these young guys names as well as all the NHL guys names because of course they're doing NHL game so those guys are ten at a ten. I don't know how the fuck their brains can handle all that work but we know cameras to have them win the gold medal. That's one way but I don't think I don't think this guy gets enough credit. Jeff O'Neill doing scouting even goes out during the summertime and checks out on these kids in in writes reports on them. So Jeff O'Neill I know that's where all those guys are getting their information about these kids. So Jeff O'Neill you're the fucking man a great job for the world. Juniors dog is everyone asked to have him on. We'd love to have one. I think he liked to come on. I like I guess employers probably have something to do with it. It's not like we don't want to have Jeff O'Neill on I just don't think logistically it works out someday someday. Someday we'll have more on but believe you me we'd love to have mine it just I. It's not call. Basically some people will think I'm being serious about thanking Jeff O'Neill because he jokes around on twitter footer. All time that he's doing all this study for world futures so so that may have gone over some people's head he he just tweeted out nonstop and then ongoing jokers. The other guys is reply to you. Like thank you for all people people got it. When you're you're you're number one line was that that's all the guys? Get the Info on these young. There's no dog all right gang. Well everybody have a great week out there and we'll be checking back with your Thursday banks for us. Thank you As always we'd love to say thanks to a wonderful sponsors and hopefully you fantastic. Listeners had taken advantage of these awesome deals FA- simplisafe go to simplisafe dot COM com slash triplets. That's SIM p. l. i.. S. A. F. E. DOT COM and chocolates is C. H. I. C. L. S.. You do that. 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200: What the NHL Should Do & What If Joe Thornton Went to the Ducks w/ Mike Petraglia

Bruins Beat

29:56 min | 11 months ago

200: What the NHL Should Do & What If Joe Thornton Went to the Ducks w/ Mike Petraglia

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It's awesome. keeps me Kinda Helped me wind down and people like the COMP I. Head space. But again those just. Offering advice for you guys to use or listen to this podcast that keep you mentally and physically fit at the same time so without further ADO, here's my conversation. With Petrolia. And we're here with PETROLIA TRAG 's. How're you? Chancer. Do you want Evan? I want the honest answer. I'm struggling. I'm struggling without sports Emotionally doing the best I can like. Everybody is I would say this Evan, the more I get outside work in my yard like I, did over the weekend. The more I stay busy physically the better I feel. There's no question about that. Yeah I would agree with you on that. I mean I think that. Right now it's so important to keep the mental health. It has to be they really. By by the way not to interrupt you, but I loved it and. That's. Pretty much done with watching old games. I know! I i. know this happened in the past I know well, it's a game. I'm like I'm Julius. Read until Games resume. I'm really done with it, and you're going to bring this up I. Guess in a little while, but. I I also don't want leagues rushing back to play until. A sense of society normalcy in society is returned until that's happened. I. I'm not really into these leagues trying desperately to bring Games back I'm just not. I'm so done with the old games I really am was cool as cool novelty team for the first week that it was on. But Nessin rolling out every single game from the twenty seven. Kaprun I have no desire to watch game one against the Acadians where the Bruins lost for wasn't an exciting game or any of these games. I mean that Phillies Years in twenty eleven aside from Thomas is fifty. Two saves a game to. There wasn't a hell of a lot that was very interesting to watch. It just I. Don't even the good old games like I know what happened I just WanNa see the highlights. That's really what I want to see if I see anything. I own dance game contents games exactly like just just show me the best parts I know what happened? That's IT and again like you can't get resurfaced feelings about these. Games sometimes because. Hell I mean it's not like watching it the first time and it really annoys me. And again. I I feel irritable I. Feel more irritable well normally do. And, I think everyone does stuck in the house all day going out, you know once in a blue moon. Work I work out as much as I. can honestly at home good homework outs. You have to do it, because if not I'll just in Ronald eating. Oreos and that is not GONNA no. And Yeah! I mean my thoughts on this whole virus. You know what it's doing to society. I mean it's. It's toppled our economy. It's changed everything we do as of right now and. I just wanted to be back to normal as soon as possible. I mean again like we should be gearing up for the first round of the playoffs right now. And we're not and if you told me need a year, I've been like. What are you talking about? Try Remember the podcast we did. Where we were like they can't go to no fans in the stands. They can't do it. You know, don't do it. And, then that week the league suspended itself. I mean it just escalated so quickly. That's why okay let's just jump to. Bring anyway eventually, and that's the idea in on the story broke Monday morning. Think Emily Kaplan had it for ESPN, and that is this idea of resuming the city a resuming the season in these far off cities or much smaller market cities, and you know having some round robin tournament. You know what stopped trying so hard. There are millions of fans who are like you know what cancel. The season's already in the NBA in the NHL because. It's not gonNA look the same when it resumes in when whenever and it's always you're always going to have an asterisk by the ends of. By the end of the seasons in the NBA NHL and you know I understand the that hockey fan you know. Let's say five to ten percent of rabid rabid hockey fans just WANNA. See some live hockey I. Get that. But not at the expense of the integrity of the League and to me. You Know I. Am hope that we have a league and we have leagues next year. Right in twenty, two, thousand, nine, hundred twenty one years. Just put your sites toward that. the NFL's different. I think the. MLB is a little different, because the season hasn't even started but with the NHL and NBA It was an act of God. There's nothing you can do to Prevent the halting of. Those Leagues and just call it off. I I'm tired of these leagues. Saying well could do this and we could do that and we are talking about the possibility of. Playing these games and empty buildings like enough already. That's not what's not what I want and I don't think it's. The Super Majority of hockey fans want is some. Truncated playoff format. That gives us a champion for the sake of having a champion I'm not for that at all. I mean I think if they do a playoff format in the platform they have now. It's the exact same. They just can't the regular season. I don't think you have to technically put an asterisk next to it however, if you have a totally different playoff format that is. Not What we have now, robin, exactly. No, then you have to put an asterisk than it's totally different. And it's you know that that Stanley. Cup that team wins is always like well. They want it not. For Cock to twenty, nine hundred and twenty season. You know and the thing is so. they're talking about possibly playing at Ralph. Angst in arena in grand forks North Dakota and then possibly in Manchester New Hampshire, those are the two sides have been thrown right now. Obviously would love New Hampshire because just near us. But the thing is I just think. This is tough for everybody. It's tough especially for team like the Bruins, who doesn't have a huge cup window with the veterans on their team? And this season, which was supposed to be another shot at the cup, another shirt fire eastern conference final potentially is gone. You know probably and the momentum they had was killed David fifty goals again like this is the thing this is I'm going off on tangents here. No, you should, that's. What good podcast! Go ahead it's true, but when I think about like what I just said, so the bruins missing the cup and the Bruins. Cup Window shortening and David Posh fifty goals. All of those aren't even close to problems that I. Care about right now like. I don't care about that stuff right now because. Of what's going on in the world like it makes it seem so silly that I'm sitting here going well, you know the world's burning around me and the economy's tanking and people losing their jobs tonight, but David posh knock didn't hit fifty goals like. So horrible. I asked his wishes to my point. Why are people so worried about getting these leagues back up and running? Get Society backup running well, you, you know these games will give a sense of normalcy. No, they won't not. If people don't have jobs to pay for, you, know playoff tickets, or they're capable bill. They're not gonNA feel. I I feel very strongly that the last thing we should be worried about. Is these leagues coming up with some truncated form of playoff format just to put games on TV so people can watch and. I guess it'd be there for somebody to watch, but you know I go back to two thousand thirteen and that season was incredibly shortened, but the playoffs structure. was legitimized because it was essentially a the playoffs as usual. That's why I think there's no ASTERIK. By the two thousand thirteen Chicago Blackhawks win over the Bruins in the Cup final. Because Blackhawks had to win sixteen games in the Stanley Cup run to win their Cup I. Don't think you. Depending on what you read, and what you believe I don't think they can have that format now. based on when these players would have to get back to training to get ready to play. Competitive Hockey and undertake a long playoff season. I just don't think it's possible at this point, and if it's not awesome. Close Up Shop and put your focus towards next season. That's what and that's the advantage. NFL has happened. It's you know they have the ability to have their draft have free agency have everybody looking forward to twenty twenty and the NFL owners are of the belief that their season's going to start on time in September in. In I think that's what the NHL in. The NBA for that matter should be looking toward and I think Paci fans would understand that. Yeah I think the other thing is obviously you said. Put your sites to next season. You know if they can find a way to do. A legitimate playoff format societies back on its feet. In June. Let's say. And they can find a way to do a legitimate playoff format in July, and August or September whatever and then. Short next season by twenty games or so. I'm not fully against that, but again society's got to be ready for something like that, and the other thing is and I'm not saying this from a sports perspective. The you know I. Don't think this quarantine just GONNA lift in. We're all going to be good again like I think it's going to be a slow inclined back to where we were economically socially all that stuff But you have to think when this lifts and there's a the first game after all of us. The ratings are going to be massive. The interest going to be huge. People are never gonNA. Take these things for granted ever again like. We're like the first night going out after all this. When we all hit the bars like it's GonNa, be crazy. It's going to be so fun because. They go my God I missed the so much and going to games when that happens again. We don't know when that's GONNA. Take Place. Again it just feels like we're in an alternative universe I know. It sounds so like out there, but it really does feel like we're another dimension that we're talking about. Imagine going to a hockey game with people there I mean it's just. It's also surreal to me. But again the sights on next season. If societies in a good place and societies ready than. Let's do it and again. You also have to look and we'll talk about this later on the podcast on other. Later down the road. HAASE's impact. You guys like Chara potentially retiring people like that. And to. You mentioned his retirement after his contract next season. You know who knows. So, right now is just a really weird time. As everybody knows. And I think that. I just want the real world back. What everybody wants? Everybody wants this over with done with. And Yeah I mean that's pretty much all we've got to say about that. And so another thing I wanted to get to this week, and it has nothing to do with quarantine, so what kind of God? One eighty off of it. Brian Burke legendary Brian Burke. Had a question answer session on twitter I think. and someone named Kevin to lock asked him. What is one trade? You didn't make that? You wish you had and what is one that you made that? You wish you hadn't so obviously Brian. Burke did not answer the second question, but he did say. I tried desperately to get Joe Thornton to Anaheim. I thought we beat the offer that got accepted Mike. O'CONNELL was the GM and we were babysitting him checking in once a day. Sometimes more I told OC Michael Connell that would protect five players on my roster, and he could take whoever he had ranked sixth, no restrictions and add another roster player prospect in a I I'm still bitter. We didn't get him so. Out on the top if that is true, which I believe Brian Birkenau these lying about that right? Why would Michael Connell? Takes term marks up Brad Stuart and Wayne premo over potentially Ryan gets off or Corey. Perry. A I a prospect and another roster player I think of what that would have done for the for the franchise. What do you think I can't believe O'CONNELL didn't do it? Can you. Know I don't and so if I cannot believe I I, look at this and names. Names pop off off the screens like in bold. Bold faced neon right Yeah Marco Sturm Primo. And Brad Stuart is what they got right and. Which who compared to what they? What they could have gotten. So ty Anderson wrote about this. And at the time, this is two thousand five. He ties said when we're talking about Anaheim's list of protected five players. You have to imagine. It probably went something like chambers Salani Scott. NIEMEYER J. Share Andy McDonald Francois, Beauchemin they were all veterans core pieces of that team Ryan gets off was a young rookie. Corey Perry as well. For Twenty and I get that and. And if you're O'CONNELL. Maybe? He just didn't trust his ability to event. Staff's ability to evaluate younger players right. Yeah, I, mean I just I. Look at that and I think that is such an alternative reality for the Bruins because Marco, sturm actually was good. I mean I was a huge fan of star. You know scored that big goal against the Canadians game six of the o of the playoffs and kind of helped bring the bruins back to prominence. He was a great memory. Yeah, I, do remember that I was a great arc when that happened. Oh yeah, yeah, because you covering the socks off any squirted fenway park. He scored the winter. Classic winner. Correct against any, are he? He's one of the forgotten people of that core that kind of brought the bruins back to prominence. In the city. The other way promote Brad Stuart whatever it. You have nothing to do with really anything with the Bruins, but you think about how would it change? Let's say they do go and get get slobs, so they get get Slob, you know. Do they sign Marc, Savard. What did they not? Do? They not make certain moves. Do they make because then you would have had? Berge Ron, GET SLOB! You would have also had crunchy in the pipeline. So you wonder how that would change the culture I. Mean Get Slav became. The captain of the ducks would char have been a captain ear if gets. Required at that time, so there's a lot of questions to be asked. And you know. Would they have won a Stanley Cup? Would they have one more? Stanley Cups. and. That's all sort of. Putting a perspective. If, they had done that and Corey. Perry I, think also is another interesting one. I think typically have. Less of an impact on team in a game than a center does so you know you savard? Probably be still would have been signed but I think it's interesting stuff. Mean you're covering them at that point. I was in first grade so you know. Do. What were your memories of the Thornton Trade? Supply was walking down obviously a place after. After a I forget, the opponent was Calgary, or not I forget who they were playing that night. I can look it up obviously. while I'm babbling here. Why don't you look who who the Bruins were playing that November night when they? Made that trade because I. DO REMEMBER It was a surreal feeling as O'CONNELL followed a head coach I guess I would have been Pat Burns at the time. and Was it burns. I can't remember now anyway I remember O'CONNELL. Mike Sullivan. It might have been no, it's Mike Sullivan. That's right. It was Mike Sullivan. And he followed up that press conference by announcing the trade which had broken on television just seconds before the press conference began, and everybody was stunned, and everybody was rushing down to the old pressroom down where we used to eat at td garden, and I remember looking at a lot of people saying this franchise will never be the same. It'll never be the same. They thought it was a death. Blow for what? Was In store for the Bruins in the next several years. That's what I remember about it. The kind of stunned look on everybody's face. They actually traded. Was it rumor that they were going. Have the time or exotic. Yeah, where I think it was rumored that I don't want to miss, remember but. I do. Remember rumblings about Thornton. That being happy there and they couldn't sign them. Long term and it was time to move on. So the game was, he was in the same class as Sergei Samsonov. And I believe Samsonov was also traded that night same trade. He was in the same town was really in the same trade wasn't in the same tracy was traded. I thought the same night. Oh, I can look that up, but the game was a November twenty nine, two thousand five gaming. It's the new. Jersey devils. Okay there you go, who you who you covering for those games for back then. Nice. Yeah that is nuts I mean I like for me I. Mean of my lifetime. I guess the Sagan Trade was close to that I mean what what do you think was bigger? Thornton was probably much bigger because there wasn't a lot around him like he was the one star. One of the ones I would say. Morton was bigger definitely. Yeah, because Sagan, it was just. A younger a younger player with a ton of potential leaving like there were tons of pieces around. They were still a cup team. They just let him go. It looks bad in hindsight, but at the time it was Kinda, like Oh you know they're getting. Loui Eriksson back was pretty good and saying it didn't fit. Compared to Thornton who is the lifeblood of the offense so? Yeah I mean it's fun to look at these hypotheticals. These alternative Kinda realities you know what could have been I'm just surprised that O'CONNELL accepted the San Jose De Hall I mean Marcos terms fine, but don't know. Samsonov wasn't traded until almost the end of the Oh five. Oh, six season it was, Thornton, was traded to San Jose at the beginning of that season in Samsonov wasn't traded until March ninth to Edmonton Marty reasoner yon starts stops knee. And a second round pick in the Oh six entry draft. You know who that turned out to be. Phil, Kessel no close wait. I know the Oh six offseason was huge for them. all right who I'm totally blanking, Nealon, Luke cheech. Yes, that's right. That's totally right. Who is their first picking six? That wasn't Zach Hamill was a I'd have to look it up. At data someone put it on twitter. Recently, the Oh, seven to nine drafts for the Bruins were horrendously bad, but the oh six offseason basically shaped the team while Oh. No, no, the OAT. The Oh six draft was now. It was not bad. You know who their number one pick was. You just set them Phil Castle yes. That was their dad the fifth overall pick in Oh six. Yeah that I. I call picks. Those six draft words stacked Eric Johnson the blues Jordan installed of the Penguins Jonathan tapes to the Blackhawks. Backs the capitals. That was a good draft, but I just seven to nine remember. The draft picks were not great. Ending Hamill was somewhere in there. Six later in that draft flyers got clawed Jerusalem who? Is Borderline Hall of if he keeps going. I think he's GonNa wind up in the hall of fame. He's one of the best hockey players I've seen. One of the best best sets of hands. I've ever seen Oh. He's very silky mets. I. It's when those offseason. Jeff Gordon was the interim GM for a lot of that and he made lot of those moves wasn't sure rally. which is which people kind of forget Jeff Gordon is not what the Rangers. And he made all. Bruins and they're like goodbye like we're GONNA. Hire Peter Sure Halley. But that whole time in Bruins, history I think is so important because you at Shara. You've got savard got Lucia castle. There's so many pieces that they added. They added Rask around that time when they traded Ray Kroft. Must be weird for rakoff sitting up there in the in. The intermission booth talking about the Games that the guy he was traded for tow play then. But yeah I mean that whole time is crazy. But I mean getting back to to Brian. Burke I think that that story is fascinating. Because you're right, it does. Make you play the what if game? At a very very high level. It does I mean again I think that changes everything gets off gets probably hall of Famer. And Perry probably as well Perry won the MVP one year I believe. And so both those guys. Could have been huge additions to the Bruins I mean now. They're kind of outdated. They're all their way past their prime, but again I mean if they could have. Had them in the early part of the decade Never GonNa Kiss Yeah I. I wouldn't say their way past their prime I would say there s the end of their prime. And there's a big difference. Of being you know towards the on the backside of the curb, but still had a pretty high level and if they cannot fall off. Fall off the cliffs in the next couple of years. They're still in great shape. I. Mean I think you know they're built from the back end now. And if I was try-, I was talking about Perry and gets off I was talking to the Bruins. Oh, I understood you. I was going to say I was like what. The bruins are fine. Yeah, carrying gets laugh I do believe are. Kind pass their prime. Traffic when you go. Yeah, no problem try. Would like to plug. Just, we are going to be having a Doug tied from Nessin Dot Com on the Patriots beat this week, and we're going to start finally digging into the NFL draft which is coming up at the end of this month and our you know, how is everything? or the work stoppage. Across all of these leagues and staying at home, social distancing impacting the way the Patriots. are able to read their draft prospects going into the NFL draft. I mean the NFL Patriots have always done A. I think particularly outstanding job in reading on who their draft picks are from a character point of view. The talent has not always worked out I mean take a look at the number of cornerbacks that have kind of busted for them, but. In terms of character and personality they usually usually I. Get it right and I I'm curious to see from Doug's perspective what he thinks you know social distancing and being forced to stay. Removed from Gillette Stadium how that might impact the way patriots go about their business. It'll all be interesting and again. We covered it all here and you can listen to it over there. and. Yeah everybody out there. Please stay safe. Stay mentally fit. Stay physically fit you know. Stay busy do something that's that takes up your time. Because? You don't want to get caught thinking about what's going on outside of your front door. And PRISCILA Marinov ubereats beat. Listeners have a great rest of your week.

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June 27, 2019: Vancouver Is Making All The News

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June 27, 2019: Vancouver Is Making All The News

"I got my sign here. Yes. Don't play with my phone want cards now. Thirty four passwords. It's not my computer Jeff's, computer, don't play with Jeff computer. Valuable information on there. You play with my. Okay. Elliott Friedman a little preview for free agent day. And a reminder as always, thank you to our friends at GMC thirty one thoughts brought by the next generation GMC. Sierra Denali gonna run through a couple of topics in issues that are going on in the NHL right now hoping to get this out as soon as possible, because things are changing and moves are happening really quick. So the latest one at least one of the holiday trade, but the bigger one right now Elliott is the Roberta Longo situation. He retires after nineteen seasons in the NHL on a pause. What this means for lewanda and the Florida Panthers but for the Vancouver Canucks this means three million dollars season in cap, recapture. How surprised how pissed off our Vancouver I think they were aware that this was coming. There were rumors around the draft last weekend that quite, possibly lewanda would retire rather than go on long term injury list. I'm sure Florida is much happier for cash. Outlay that Lewan go is doing that. I wonder if there's going to be like down the road. He's hired by the Panthers to do something locally. So there's kind of like a I don't know if nudge nudge, wink, wink is the right word, but whatever he's given up. He'll work for the organization, and they'll pay him down the road to be a local embassador. I mean who would be better for them in that area than Lewan, go? But I heard last weekend there was a possibility. This was going to happen. And I think the connects had heard that this was a possibility it could happen. And I think they knew this would affect potentially their cap space for the next three years. So you think they've been modeling based on the new number that they have, which is three million dollars less than everybody else. Right. I think they were aware their possibility of that existed. Yes that would affect potential signing of Tyler Myers. It seems as if those two are walking down the aisle. The thing is that was really crazy. Was there were people that said to me that Myers was most? Likely going to Vancouver, and nothing that happened when they met on Sunday night, changed all that. I think there were people saying that he was gonna get seven times. Seven I don't think these getting seven times seven, but that's what, what created the hysteria. I think the connects new all the time that they were probably going to be doing less than that. Because of this situation. Now Myers might still get six and a half, something like that. But I think that connects knew they couldn't go that high. I mean, they still have to deal with Besser, and I'm guessing if that has any term to it at all six years, that's going to be seven and a half. So I still think it's likely the Tyler Myers will be connect, but I don't think it's going to be for seven million dollars season. I think it's going to cost Vancouver anywhere. It might be the next person. They were thinking about beyond Besser and Myers. We've sleeves in the next part of the conversation, and we will get back to long here in second, which is where. The Vancouver Canucks at right now. There is a feeling out there that listen, Saint Louis blues just won the Stanley Cup things can turn around quickly in the NHL with a lot of teams. We know the owner wants the full court press on making the playoffs and the general managers seems to be behaving as, if he is going to follow those marching orders. C. J. T Miller coming in acquisition of someone like Tyler Myers. We'll see what happens on July. First. Where's the Vancouver Canucks organization at right now? We've seen a couple of big moves and Miller move. They resigned editor on two years, there's logo situation with the cap recapture, but where's Vancouver at right now because we've pointed out numerous times that the presence and the production of Pederson changed everything. And right now they have one of the best luxuries in the NHL, and that's that guy on an entry level deal there, at least gonna try to compete for a place but next year and seriously compete. You know they've put themselves in a position where they have no choice but to do it that JT Miller. Draft. Pick is going to be a first rounder either next year or the year after. So the idea of not at least competing for a place spot, that's out of the question. Now they have to do with a bit less money than they hoped. You know, that's for sure. I wondered if they were going to go after Gardner. I thought when they got Adler resigned, that was no then they lost Hutton, and they could still re-sign Hutton. But I'm not convinced he's going there. I think he knows obviously how the organization feels about him. He's not worth that price point. He may end up somewhere else. Like there were a lot of rumblings in the hours before the qualifying offer deadline that Hutton, and the connection, the least we're talking about something. So I don't know if they're going to be able to afford to get Gardner though. I wouldn't be surprised if it's Jordi banner, something like that. Because without hot in there, they're thin on the left side behind ler. But they're in a position where they know they're going to be three million short. And that's. Gonna make it a little tight on some of the things they wanna do Vancouver Canucks as we all know, of course, hosted the draft this past weekend. One, you quick thought on drafting Vasily poed Kohl's is you've talked about him before. And you made the suggestion that it might be one of those teams that's taking a long view because he's married to the cage L for a couple of seasons. He Saint Petersburg. Don't expect them anytime soon. Your thoughts on Vancouver taking Colson well initially when they first took him I was surprised because it doesn't fit what I talked about. But Jim Benning made a really good point. He said that anybody. They would have drafted ten was two years away anyway. So why not go for the best available player like whether or not Jim Benning, the GM in Vancouver, not long term? I have a feeling that drafting that player he's going to be remembered fondly for that pick. I think that guy and, you know, better than I do you follow these guys more than I do? He's a really talented player. I kill kill. I think that, you know, I said, whether he's there or not a long time. I think he did a really good legacy pick for the organism. Asian. I some fans came up to me after the draft and they said, well, you know, tramp can laugh. So why would this guy wanna come to us, and I think their different situations. I don't think they're comparable I think most of the good young Russian players, they wanna play North America. They wanna try. And I think he will, I think, capris odd is gonna come over to Minnesota after this year. There's another Zaitsev and the one played in red deer. I think he's going back to Russia for three years. But I think some H L teams are going to try to see if they can get them signed as a free agent. Rain Bill you're allowed to do it. We're going to get to one of those Russian players very much staying very much going to be rich sooner than later. And that's Panara. Darren, but wanted to get your thoughts on the salary cap itself. Yup. Lot of eyebrows raised at eighty one point five is anything behind that number keep best grow low, low tell you story years ago. And I've promised the players, the two players involved, confirmed it for me as long as I would never reveal their names. There was an NHL team. And this is going back at least a decade, I think where a team was having a vote in its dressing vote the escrow and this was at a time when the players generally were bumping it up a full five percent every year, and one of the players was tired about, and he was a star. And one of the players was tired of paying the full five percent. And he's like guys this year I wanted to last the full five percent. I'm losing too much money. I don't like it, and I think we should dial it back and another player and it was a prominent player. Was not as good a players. The first guy said it, but he was a good player, he jumped up and he L and he said. Oh, okay. And this guy was going to be a free agent that summer still the flare jumped up. And he said, okay, so when you were free agent, I voted to give the max cap available that you could have. And now that I'm a free agent your gonna vote differently and it turned into a bit of a verbal battle. But then to his credit, the superstar player said, you know what you're right? I'll do it. You did for me. I'll do it for you. But that's what it does create some division and this year, I know there were some free agency. They're restricted or unrestricted who were unhappy, but the group as a whole is getting fed up with this. I think the two sides are quietly moving towards getting the CBA either extended or changed so that there will be labor peace. We do know. They are meeting this summer. They are meeting and they have met, and there is a quiet sense of optimism is. I keep getting told and the salary cap what happened this year is part of that. But Jeff eighty percent of the players in our contract, if they all decide to vote and say, no, it stopped, then that's what's going to happen. And they'll tell you this like they're a couple of owners who told their GM's the gems were a little bit upset. And there were a couple of owners who looked at them and said, look, if I was a businessman, I would do the same thing, the players are it makes sense for them. And I think that's kind of where we are. I think we're in a situation where this is what people want. And I think we're gonna see it next summer. I think teams are under the impression that same thing is going to happen next year, a very minimal increase, and then the US TV deal kicks in, in two summers and they'll sort it out, then. So should we be optimistic to the point where we look at this number and what may happen next year with the cap and say, this is a dressing the biggest need in the next CVA because there's not a lockout issue? And if. There is a strike issue. It's escrow, this is a dressing it. I don't think the players are gonna vote to open it. I just don't think they have that in them, but I'm saying their main issue is escrow. Yes. Does the flat cap this year in potentially next year address that and should we read into it? Then we are close to a deal and labor. Management piece, I would never say or close to a deal. But I think we're on the path, I think there is an optimism there, that it will get done from what I've been told the league submitted a bunch of different scenarios to the players. This is where we see the cap going in the next couple of few years. If you want the escrow, zero, if you want the extra five or six percent, this is what we think is happening, the new US TV deal two years from now all that stuff. And I heard there were like five or six different scenarios, and all of them took a bump. After the twenty twenty twenty twenty one season when Seattle's about the come in. Right. I heard that all of that was part of it. And like I said, I think history tells us Jeff that you can't assume anything until it's done. But I think that the players feel that the legal work with them on a deal to ease the escrow. But the moment you start opening up to too many more things than that, that's when you're going to have a problem. I think they want Olympics and escrow Olympics is a harder sell. But I just think players don't wanna fight. It's a good deal for the owners. They know it. And the only way I think this ends in any kind of stoppage is if it really goes off the rails for a stupid reason. Okay. From CBA talk to more of a dinner bell topic. Let's just call it for, for the purposes of this podcast are FA. As we've talked about them all season long. And we've talked about offer sheets, which out of all of them, and we've all gone over the headline makers, which one is the most interesting case to you. Well, I mean martyrs the one that's been kind of in the spotlight. But let's take him out of the equation. I think people are kind of people are martyred out. Yeah, they're martyred out point to me is interesting because he is the guy who sounds most like he doesn't want the fight point seems to be the most agreeable player. But I don't think he wants to be kucherov like Nikita was, I think he's looking at something a little bit more than that. I think line is interesting because he seems to be the one that wants the bridge. A lot of these guys don't want the bridge. He wants the bridge. And you know, I think he can get it. Besser is not eligible for an offer sheet. Matthew check could Chuck is interesting because he's represented by Newport. They have signed their clients. Some killer deals casts Carlson Skinner. I don't think Calgary wants to pick a fight with him, and they also have to sign Riddick, who is a Newport client. I think Calgary recognizes his value, and I think they want him. But to me, the most is who's going, I Jeff, who's gonna be the one that goes I because I think there's a fear of being first of setting a market that gets you criticized by their other teams or by other restricted free agents is this is my theory now on the Maple Leafs and martyr. I think the leaves are going to offer them like two times eight, and they're going to say we all believe the Cavs going up in two years. Why don't you sign then when we have more room and the maximum is higher line is going to do that. Because I think he was unhappy. He was unhappy with the way last year finished he's almost going to send the jets like a, a warning like I wasn't happy here. And how are we all going to fix this? And he has to take some of the responsibility for that he wasn't as good as he could be. But I think also like you know, that's a team or the leadership expects an extremely high standard. And I think some of the young players of chafed under that of it. I think you can sort that out over term. I really do, but I think those guys are all going to have to work together. I actually think it's going to be a good thing for Winnipeg in the long run that that happens. I could see Toronto gonna modern saying you want to times eight, and then we'll see where the cap is in two years. And we can all figure this out again. I'm curious about a couple of things one who's gonna be first to yes. And marketplace. I'm also curious you who drags on. And if there's another Neil Anders situation, someone drags on pass training camp and into the regular season. And I'm also talking about Sebastian hockey central noon today. I'm curious to see what the number is for a how. And if there is an offer sheet, and we all understand Carolina Hurricanes. Tom Dundee Carolina market is there, a number and is it considered low at which Carolina would walk away and say, we'll just take the picks let me throw if he gets offer sheet at let's just say, nine million would Carolina match or take the pick. Well, I know there were some people. Yes. I saw the in my I don't check my Twitter replies that often, but I saw it. Yes, there were some people who are hurricanes fans. We didn't like what I wrote about all who yesterday were done in just says. Hey, it's this or, and this is as far as I'm going, you know, one of the interesting things about Tom Dunton is he's unlike most other NHL owners think a lot of those other NHL owners feel pressure about, you know, we've gotta do this to bend to our market. Dondon doesn't seem like that he puts a value on everything. And he says this is the value and we're not going past it. I mean he put a three point seven million dollar value or three point eight million dollar value on that first round pick for Patrick Marlowe, and he did it. And I was like, wow, he just bought a pick for twenty eight million which I got no problem with. But then they made the move on the other side with Don. And now they just traded for hall, but he has finite limits on what he will do. Like their owners out there who look at the coaching salaries and the executive salaries and one of them, said to me, actually, I wish I had Kony's that Dondon does to say that's not happening here. Like I'm not doing that here. So my point is that Tom Dunton places of value on everything. I know that was a great player. And I know he's your franchise player, but I think there's a limit on what he's willing to do. Like one agent said a great to me. They said Kay, you gotta go through the teams. Who's got the cat? Room to do it. Who's got the pics to do it who's got the will to do it. There aren't a lot of team. But everybody has the pics to me. The biggest one is d have the guts to do it. Yeah. And, you know, I think we're all wondering about kind of the islanders the somebody said to me, they could see buffalo doing it. That's team that when you look at Skinner's deal, like that's a team that feels desperation to get better fast. That made a lot of sense to me. And you'll Larry Brooks, who writes for the post, and he's really plugged in the Rangers. He says the Rangers aren't going to do offer sheets now swimming, that's correct. And I've got no reason to feel that he's wrong. Then I would put the Rangers in their normally, but I won't I will tell you this. I've had some people who think that Carolina Aho. It's higher than eight times six like the team has an offer there. That's higher than that. So we'll see where it goes. Cal connor. I talked about he doesn't get talked to thirty goal scorer. I know. And he doesn't exac. Play like the area, the power play where you gal the one timers and stuff. What I've heard is that everybody's checking in with these RFA's. And the reason is they wanna know what they want. In case trade for them. Okay. It's been a story all season long mainly attached to Columbus. But now, the market is opened the doors open. Walk through gentlemen. Are Tammy parents or gate? Abroa- ski, what is the latest. Well, I think everybody thinks is going to Florida, right? Like the belief is that when Joel Quenneville went to Florida, he was told we're gonna solve our goal tending problem. And, you know, Lewan go been gone helps that look flow he would have been on the cap for whatever or L TR for whatever. But now he's a cost them a million dollars a piece of next three years, I gotta think abroad ski is going there. I think that the, the contract will be interesting because the team across state has to sign Vassilev ski, you'll be unrestricted free agent next summer and Brodsky gets ten you know that I don't think that's Laskey. We'll go to ten but he'll be close. Darren their reports as agent now Adrian data reached out to me. He said his agent met with Colorado and other people told me that Panara and met with Colorado Perrin, specifically, never met with Colorado. I think it's Linders Rangers or Panthers now, I think of LA was in this he would have seriously considered them. But as far as I know, LA is not in this. I think it's one of those three teams Matt Shane, I think it's Nashville with Montreal's outside shot thought on. What's happening Chris Kreider, Chris Kreider is a name that we've heard available and out there even going back to the awesome Matthews Patrick line draft where there was something cooking between the Rangers and the Edmonton Oilers. What's happening with Chris Kreider? Well, I don't know. I mean either they're going to trade him, or they're going to extend them, right? Like I think Colorado was looking at him, but they didn't wanna trade the sixteen four one question I never asked at the draft, I wish I had more time to ask. Is, you know you watch with the raptors do with Kawhi Leonard. How many teams are going to say I'm gonna take a chance with a one year guy now like Chris Kreider if I thought I could win next year. I'd be going to have that guy on my team. We have thoughts on the buyouts at west Corey Perry Dion enough. I mean I'm not surprised with either really tough year for phen. I think he needed a fresh start. And Perry was simply a money thing. No question. I've heard there's a lot of interest in Perry. My blog I mentioned much Pittsburgh were up there. I think both those teams have shot. I heard Dallas was in there. I heard natural was in there. Like I, I heard there was a lot and the thing about pair. That's interesting because he's over thirty five and he played less than one hundred days last year. You can bonus him his contract, and be bonus the other guy who's the calendar really helps you with pavonis key pavilion, ski was born on July eleven so you're not signing him to an over thirty five deal. Just niks. Yes, I've heard. Because of the bonuses Perry's pretty attractive guy back to velveeta for a couple of seconds. Just some players would look strange in a different jersey. But should we start warming ourselves, the idea the job of ski might be in a different jersey? I could see San Jose still trying to do this. But I think Dallas really wants them. I don't know of Tampa can do it. I think Dallas really wants him. Now I've heard he's going to take one more visit and it's close to home and northwest of his summer home is Minnesota. And so of his summer home is Chicago. Now I had heard that he turned down a couple of visits with teams they didn't think could win. And so my guess is if he's going to one of those two places. It's Chicago and less. He's considering Saint Louis, you know, he said that he is considering teeny told one team, I know of, you know, thanks for your interest, but you're just not close enough to winning. So I gotta. Dallas is pretty high up on that list. You know one of the teams that I'm really curious about this offseason because they have space they have prospects coming. They just landed Bowen Byrom fourth overall Alex new hook as well in the draft. Joe sacking cat really nice first round, I'm curious what Colorado does this, obviously, in the playoffs a couple years in a row, of course, you have Meco rant and into as an RFA, but they have space there have someone mental there as well. I wonder if a player like Wayne Simmons fits their with the avalanche where are you at with Colorado? Well, I really thought that that was worth of Elsie was gonna end up and pa- velvety saw them up close. Right. Like you watched as much as he could play or see because he was hurt. He saw how good Colorado was. I have heard Colorado's biggest issue is, yes, they have a ton of cap room now, but look was coming up in the next four years. You've got Renton and now and I'm on to the impressions. Ask for a very big number. You know, they've got ran. And now if you wanna keep Tyson berry, you know, you've got him in a year, and then Landis cogs up in two years grew hours up into years kill Makarios up in two years. And then McKinnon's up and four years, which is a bit more breathing room. So I think they're really worried of term. And so I don't know if they felt they could do pavilion, for three or four years, like I think San Jose might be willing to go three on pa- velvety, but, you know, I think he wants the fourth. I'm not sure that's Colorado wanted to do. So I think they're going to look at guys without term, and see if they can do it that way. I wonder if a guy like Furland ends up there, I get the sense that they wanna get tougher. Yes. And that's why the name Leanne sim. I wonder if Wayne's like Wayne Simmons is four and five year offers out there from what I heard I think Minnesota's going after him like I wonder if wins another guy like a team lead. Colorado, says. You know, we're not going to give you term but will give you a bigger number in a short time, hall of fame class, two thousand nineteen headlined by Hayley Wickenheiser Sergei Zubov. We've talked about here on the podcast. I know that was a big one few for number of years. Geek, Carboneau vessel net. Amand skied your mother in Jerry York thought on the class going into nineteen. Well, you know, there's always arguments about this stuff, and that's fine. I mean, nobody's gonna have a problem with is as soon of a problem with Zubov Carbonell. I have to tell you the first thing I did. When I saw Carbonell was in as I looked to see if Bob Clark was still on the selectors list. And he is Bob Clark. I saw interviews. He be asked who is the guy was not in the hall of fame that should be there. He would always say, gee, Carboneau, I remember Jeff when I interviewed him at the two thousand ten Stanley Cup final, I said to him, do you still feel that way says? Absolutely. He was an elite defensive player in offense of era. A guy was acute part of Canadian Stanley Cups. So. I would not be convinced Clark went in there and said, gee, Carboneau, and they all run away from them. And I don't really have a problem with it to be honest. I don't I think that side of the game gets overlooked Vaclav demand. Ski I was watching when they announced it, and I was like, is this Vaclav Neta Manzke? And I was like holy. Well, first of all, his son who now goes by Vashem. But it is named back then was Vasic. We went to grade school together that new blog, and I remember him and I looked them up, Google Vasic, Neta, Manzke came Vashem. But I realized that all lined up and I saw followed me on Twitter. So I sent him a demon. He didn't remember me at all. I would he follow you? I guess he's still interested in hockey, but you remember as being in a class together at all. But I told him I said like did you go to glan he goes so wild because that's where he learned to speak English and French. And I'm pretty sure I forgot the double check with them. But you know what the heck facts are facts? I believe that when his dad left will move with Toro's to Birmingham. They stayed in Toronto like the family stayed fine. Vaclav went to Birmingham. And then he went to Detroit, when there was that weird WHAT NHL trade. He was traded to the Detroit Red Wings. But there's a lot of talk about Mogilny. I guess we'll never know this and I think Mogilny will and should be in the Hockey Hall of fame someday. But I wonder if people looked at Mogilny story, and they said, man, this was the original defector and Vaclav in advance sqi. He had a hell of a resume. I was really happy to see that. And that would have been you mentioned Bob Clark, stump for carbon that be eager Larry on off. You might suspect for for Neta Manzke darts. Yeah. I didn't think about it, but I could certainly see it. Jerry york. I don't know Jerry that. Well, I mean, certainly deserving. I don't have any problem with that. I'm going to talk about Jim Rutherford someday when when he retired. So he's going in with a teammate because they were teammates in Detroit Sean, with the goaltending tandem Ned was the leading score for that squat quick thought on off since you've talked every time I talked about the holiday authored outrage. I don't. I don't know off. I just think he was a great player and unheralded great player to Stanley Cups. Never wanna Norris didn't say a lot. I always thought it was a great player. I loved watching him play points per game game. He he's in a company with Lidstrom's just above him. Maybe Rob Blake and Pronger is below him. But he's right in that Paul coffees number one with a bullet, right? In that of. Lidstrom Pronger in Blake is surrogate, Zubov great player, great player July. First free agent day. It is signing season on sportscenter coverage gets underway at eleven o'clock eastern. What should we expect? And what are you looking forward to freeze when I see you again? Well, I think it's going to be one of those things when officials at noon eastern, you're allowed to announce it. I think there's a whole bunch of stuff. It's gonna come flying. If you like the way this podcast sounds in your ears. Amel Delic is the version. He sources in fines all the music and makes the deals with people to bring it to you. So. We will take you out with this. This is a singer songwriter from British Columbia, Jordan class in with his new single virtuous circle. 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2020 Stanley Cup Finals Game 4

Starcastic Remarks-The Only Dallas Stars Fan-Led Podcast

42:50 min | 5 months ago

2020 Stanley Cup Finals Game 4

"Hey Guys Ryan here if you're prayer person, we wanted to request prayers on behalf of Ralph, strangers for his battle with cancer. Even though he doesn't know me personally Ralph. All right. Welcome back star cast her marks along with Chris. I'm Ryan. And we are talking tonight. About game for. Probably. One of the most interesting officiated games I have ever seen in mind tire life. Harris, what's your overall feeling of this today Chris? I feel bad. That's every stars fans feeling right now. Bad. And Really Really Mad Honestly. Really Really Mad. So. It was a pretty good game overall. It was very fun game to watch and I enjoyed watching it. And it was ended terribly. and. Then the rest got involved several times. On both sides of the puck they ruined decide they ruined the best game series. This was the best game of the series by both teams they both play great great back and forth. Lots of. And the referees ruined the best game probably the Stanley. Cup, finals. The NFL has to do something about it. I. Mean It's Yeah. What kind of makes me upset is that? I was really hoping that bonus would say something about the bogus call at the end of that but. In Very. Bonus fashion he. Didn't. He's too. He's too passive is to milk toast for that. Didn't hold back. I am Polski was very ticked off in. Honestly that was The worst call I've ever seen in my entire life. At the very least in A. Playoff game that's the worst call I've seen. So I actually found something very interesting. So the to refs that officiated this game West mccully Francis Sharon. They started officiating the Stanley. Cup. Playoffs. Last year. And they were replaced during the first three games. Remember I said the first three games with the highest number of penalties. For that series, they were replaced after game three because of poor officiating. They're gonNA BE REPLACED AGAIN I. Guess who it is West. McCauley. I wonder why he's back on the ice. TV ratings. That's the only reason he drives up TV ratings and people you know. That's the only referees name that I know is West McCauley because he does funny stupid stuff but he likes to be in the spotlight obviously from the first three games of last delicate final lots and lots of calls and this series so far lots and lots of calls. He likes the spotlight and it's honestly costing the stars series. It really is just because NHL wants to drive up ratings. So I don't think it's the initials stacking the DECK AGAINST DALLAS. Intentionally and I don't think Tampa paying off the rest I'm not a lunatic to believe that but. Westbound Kelly is officiating this game because he drives TV ratings up and he's obviously not fit to do it. Example last Stanley Cup final. In here, he is doing it again, throwing away another series in. Pooh poohing the best. The Best Playoff game we've had. Yeah. This is all in the NHL. There's no reason. West should be on the ice right now. There's absolutely no reason. The they need to be replaced. I mean I. It's really honestly don't know now. Three to one in the series it, it's honestly too late. For this series, the there's gotta be the NHL needs to at the very least learned from this in not put with mccully on the ice just because he drives up TV ratings. In to hold officiating accountable because this game is ruined by bad call even if Tampa wins any other way if they went after the power play I'm more okay with it. The reason so bad is because it's a ruined hockey game, the game's completely ruined. I I don't understand why the NFL's okay with them. They can't be. Well they might not be okay with it. We just haven't heard from them yet and I guess we'll see if they replaced the officiating crew. In if they do then that means they agree with the general public in thinking that this game was Kinda crappy. So? All right. So I'm just kind of looking going through the penalty list. In looking at some of these penalties. So the Jamie Alexia call in the first period that was a pretty obvious one though that was that was the weakest one. I. Don't think that was the weakest one specific at weeks. The Cog Leon one was weaker that was the weakest and that was. Any know why it get you in. The beginning from. Okay. Okay. So the first penalty we might not agree on. Okay I thought. It was fine and you thought it was Kinda crap. The second one I thought was definitely deserved. Observed that one. I thought it went down easy but it. Is Can opener service GONNA call it. Okay. Then let's talk about the last penalty in the second period the Andrew. Cog. Liana. Hooking Minor. I think the only reason why it was called it will two reasons one who's the PUCK carrier? That you're headman Victor Headman. that's one of. The second reason. Is because his sister in shakes his hand. Oh. Yeah. No. So actually takes off I. wanted to talk about his takes me so. You see WHO's out for the Stars Fox. Komo. Throughout this game Tampa Bay was diving all over the place doing stuff like that. that. Dang it wasn't just today. It's been the past three and it was especially today. In. New like. OBVIOUS CORRELATION TAMPA BAY is not stupid. They know that they WANNA get on the power play. There's plenty the The most funny one was when the stars got on the power play and Pavelski skates by a taps, the guy on the visor. flails down and frigging dead on the ice. Apparently. He realizes it's not gonNA call any hops up skates super hard for the puck like. That's just proof of that's how. It just. It obvious. Diving all over the place. And I know we're GONNA get to eventually. But that's why the ability was called in the third. But let's let's keep going down the list. honestly that that's the next penalty Cars. We're talking about the stars penalty, but it kind of goes hand in hand with that yet the Corey Perry interference penalty. I guess I can kind of see it but still it's a week called. This is the Stanley Cup playoffs. The Stanley Cup playoffs allegory with lightning fans on this one that embellishments was not an embellishment. It was absolutely not an but the reason maybe it was just retribution for all the other missed calls. As does the the Ritz at least knowledge of the lightning are going down easy so you can acknowledge that. On it right there's there's good times to fall when you're getting tripped could stay up but you just choose not to but they they were noticing it all night to they knew the lightning were going down easy. So they didn't see exactly where Corey Perry stick was. So they don't know that the DAD's. In. He goes down easy against. So they think he put the stick on his hip. And the guy went down easy if it was on his hip with that much force, everyone would agree it was a Belgian. Right, if it's on the hip instead of between the legs. So that's why it was called embellishment because of earlier in the game. So I, think I think there's no. I, mean, yes, it's the wrong call be. You can see why the call was made. I mean I I just feel terrible because our captain who did absolutely nothing wrong. In this guy, this is the last penalty our captain who did absolutely nothing wrong. In if anything. frigging tyler. Johnson. They they they miss. This was the first period of the second period when Rebbe got hurt. The tripping goal. is named. After out for the name. Yeah. Doors down another forward so that That's another hit to our depth yet, and so a last penalty added notice this 'cause I was just so angry in the first place, they call it tripping. The penalty called was tripping not holding not interference it was called tripping. It was. Play. His legs were never touched yet so Play Tyler Johnson. Johnson chips the puck around Tyler Johnson James Bingos for the PUCK. Taylor Johnson initiates contact Jamie ben takes the stick and puts it up on him. Completely hosted him up on him hooks across the chest Jamie ben tries to fight through the hook. Unlike Tampa Bay lightning players, he tries to fight through the hook and they showed the money. He's stronger than him. So he doesn't. In Tyler Johnson, falls? No foot near anywhere near the gate. Know stick anywhere near this gate. Only on the other guys stick in Jamie ben gets a penalty because he's strong. That's what it was. Tyler Johnson was weak and Jamie. Ben was strong and that's why he got the penalty. Tyler Johnson went down hard. That's the only reason. It's completely miscall. It's. The most blatant call. I've ever seen it's not even a missed. It's not a missed call. Call at all. It's a screwed up 'cause what it is yet they grew up a screwed up the. Game The hockey game. And you know honestly the penalty against Sergei. that. He took on Tyler. That was a very obvious call. Should have been to the dot, but you know now it was. It was closed but it wasn't hundred percent. Yeah in overtime anyway anyway. Yeah. Anyway. That's not the point. The it almost felt like they were just trying to even it up. That penalty was not warranted at Oh. No pioneers even it up they. Oh. Yeah. So We had the momentum. We have the frigate momentum. Change it in gives a penalty on a BS call so even so let's say Jimmy Ben Does Loofah. Let's say he does trip he does kick the skates out from under in overtime of. Game Four. Of The Stanley Cup finals it should still be called. It's in the Defensive Zone that team has the puck it's not in transition. It's not gonNA affect the plate it's still shouldn't be called. So no matter how you slice it. It should have never been a penalty and it's called because West McCauley wants to make the call on the ice and he wants everybody to look at him how. Great of an official he is. So. Do something about it. They better and I guess I guess we'll see if they change officiating crews for Game Five I don't think they can't. They might have done nothing. They might have done anyways. They've gotTa have more than just to rest. They've three refs and three linesmen. They got one backup. For each it will then take out west MacAulay. The guy was MacAulay but the other guy in say you know what you're in? And maybe give one of the linesmen the officiating job referee job instead. Cowley. Okay. Well we get to some actual hockey we can talk about. The stars. Giving up three goals on those terrible penalty goals and? What it comes down to his Ryan. So we oh okay. So before we leave the penalty stuff, there's one other penalty that they missed. They missed the Pavlovsky high sticking penalty right at the beginning of our I. Don't know that one wasn't a penalty Belsky. Tips of right on the visor. Okay. But it still sticking. s still high sticking not in the Stanley Cup playoffs. It's not high sticky if it tips the. Apparently apparently fighting for a puck in overtime warrants penalty. Yes. So that should we call too yeah, that's what we're saying is there but let's see that's what I'm saying is that's a Tampa Bay lightning fan would say and based off the way they've called this series I would agree with them Honestly they've called stupid stuff in data. You've let terrible you go. So they they let go the the tripping on. On Roku on hits. In that has a huge effect on the game. Rotate. We were out of forward. We got eleven forwards now. Two of them. Shouldn't be on the ice right because we have foxing out. So it. I don't I I really don't understand it I. don't understand how the miss obvious calls call week garbage. And then the last college is. It's GonNa be on like. Those highlight reels of worst officiating calls in Nhl History. That's that's like number one honestly like it's the Belsky five minute major against Vegas and that it's the Jamie Been Phantom trip. In Game Four. Yeah that was. Just. Okay. There's one other thing I want to talk about at the end of this but I'll get to it won't get to the end. All right Biggest things that stick out to you in the game and say the obvious one I. So you're a Senate. But penalty kill. We didn't do it can't do it. Will. every know why we have our best penalty killers out there. Those two guys are always on the ice when we have only kill and that's why they're todd ice numbers are so were so high this series because of how many penalties there's been so You see the reason why but guys have got to step up in the they've gotta, they gotta do it themselves and they they couldn't. That's what causes the game. And I give credit to Tampa. They knocked those two guys out. Right blindside. Hit on Komo. He's knocked out. Fox's gets. Away forgotten what happened to Fox? He blocked a shot, right? Yes. I think it was shot can from. From Tampa who are obviously whenever someone tries to block a shot they're. Throwing the puck right at the knees when they get the chance so. Credits Tampa I guess for? Getting our guys off the ice and then taking advantage of it by diving. So if that's the way, Tampa wants to win the Cup then. Go forward I guess it's It looks like a soccer team out there. So. That's a very good analogy. Well you can't. Go three four. One for one for four on the panel. It's inexcusable. There's no reason. Even, with our top two guys out, it shouldn't happen. I mean you still got. Guinness. You still got Perry who's really good coming penalties you still got. You still got yen mark. You've still got Dickinson you still got these guys that can kill these penalties and I know there's not very many of them because two of them are out but. This is it. This is the Stanley Cup final. You gotta find some way to step up and Man. This is. Has Been The difference in the series. This is the difference in this series right now. If we if we stay five on five. For after we're we're. We're in the lead and we win the game. We're probably taking a three one series lead if there's no power plays in this like if you take away all power plays. We have a three one lead right now. That's a fact. And it goes back to how many penalties have been called. In exorbitant amount. And because West McCauley lex colleague penalties will end in times that penalties should be called in a in the playoff series I just don't understand it. I, really don't. It's a perfect storm against Dallas. Right now is we're really it's a official that likes calling penalties. Your best penalty killers are out. You got one of the Best Tarpley in the league. So when the new guys come in. Like. How tough has got to be for somebody who doesn't penalty kill to come in and like okay. Now Kill it off against these guys brain point Kucherov like. He's Secretary of. It's insane. They got to completely stacked groups. You almost have. Have no chance. It's a perfect storm against Dallas right now. So Man. I don't know it sucks to be stars right? Just really does. and. I mean. Maybe we'll look back a week from now on. We'll see that we one in seven. I mean that's the only prediction we can make where we'll be happy right. At this point have got a they've got to find a way to make playoff to make Stanley Cup history in have a Crazy. Nearly reverse sweep so Right. Well, what do you think was the turning point in this game I have a very big turning point. Turning points the penalty at overtime. I. Thought Dallas was good overtime I. Thought they. Had A chance. To win it in overtime in our power play. I have no idea how they didn't score and I thought as soon as we weather that Jamie Ben was pushing into the offensive zone we were turning around what momentum the lightning had against us so. I think it's the penalty in overtime. I'm going to. Disagree with you a hundred percent I. Think the biggest turning point of this game was the vasilevskiy save on Camano. We still score to go two goals after that. That that was the turning point at that point we were up I will agree it was a turning point. This game had lots of turnout that was that was the turning. Everybody is going to look back on this game. In Tampa Bay wins tomorrow and wins the cup. They're going to look back on that save. Now. On the penalty. No data that may that may be part of it but the save on by Andrei Vasilevskiy is the thing that changed the game for me. and. Even. As the stars Fan I had to sit there and go. Like mousters how did he not score and I'm going to steal from razor here if you do not what is it? We do not. You will not accumulate. So. That means like if you don't get the puck up, you ain't going score. and Camano got a little bit of it in I know he was on his backhand but then for I disagree with the premise, I think anyone who looks back on this overtime goal is not going to be able to watch that goal and appreciate it because it wasn't nice shot. It was a great shot, but they're not gonna be able to appreciate it without thinking in the back of their minds. There's no reason we should have an extra guy right now. So I think. That's the reason I disagree. So. But I really I really like to see how nonbiased people feel 'cause obviously, we feel a certain way about it in Tampa. Bay's probably like, Oh, well yeah. But you know what? About that nut check from your? Twitter. Twitter I saw a bunch of Tampa fans who were like not upset like talking about how the game is ruined like they're happy they want. But they agree that the game was ruined by terrible call that should never have been me. I'd love to hear what fans or go west coast fans in. California teams. But if you are one of those people comment double-o. Yes. Let us know what's going on what you think 'cause. You're you're listening to us now. So you obviously are interested in what we have to say but. Man What a crappy late in the game. You. Know we keep. We keep trying to move on from it. We just keep coming back well. If we think about this stars. WE'RE NOT GONNA WE'RE NOT GONNA, move on from this until the stars went a cup. Like every time you think about the playoffs star spans are going to look back and think. What if Jamie? was. It called for penalty there. I, mean that's exactly what we did. Last season last season was what if Jamie been wraparound was just a little quicker against the blues. And we still the still game seven. Will this time it's going to be what if a rafted screw us over because he likes being on TV. It's going to be that way till the stars gets to the cup. The reason that Ben thing is gone is because we got past round to just now so. It's GONNA be. As. As bad as it feels right now it's going to. It's also gonNA feel bad until the cup is one so that Be. Ready to think about this for a long. Time Stars. Dance. I really hope you're wrong. All right. Let's get. Let's jump to another topic. So he talked about the terrible officiating we talked about. This A. Special teams that were extremely. Losing. What about Khudobin? Tonight I think it's finally catching up to him. I. Think he wasn't great I. Think he played well I think he made the right saves. You didn't hold onto rebounds like he was when he was playing great against Vegas he didn't. Make any big saves emitted. One big save I think in the first period is what I can remember. But there is a big toe save in third period too. So he made a couple but yeah but that that Fourth Lorne Vassal. Aki. Vassal Leschi won this game by a mile. Facile rescue was outstanding. He made so many great saves. Yet. Yeah let me double check that yes, it was the caloric. The caloric goal I thought he was just added position on Korea. Definitely. That was that was the one that was Kinda like. A. Because that's the way. Dhabi. Has To play the smaller guy. He has to take those risks sometimes in take a gamble that the guy's GonNa shoot. Will. Do. When you're when you're a goaltender like that and I know it's from an extreme angle, but you still have to yourself the square up to the shooter and he didn't he was. He was he was back up against his post. And I, guess he was expecting him to go to go and shoot that way but then left the far side open and that's exactly what will end. If you think about if been bishops in that net Internet, he's allowed to make that mistake. Right? He's bigger giant huge. It hit a right in the shoulder go off. So, if bishops net that doesn't go in, even if he does the exact same thing to open does. Yeah. It was just a perfect storm for stars. Fans tonight. Perfect storm of the series against the stars. Like not even just officiating going the way of Tampa not because of any again because they're being evil the rigged but just because West, Mickley likes being on TV. And campus at all the lucky bounces this series Tampa fans will leave tell you that every single house has gone has gone for Tampa in the end of the third period tied for four. Vessel SEC's nothing he's standing straight up puck hits right in the pad. From clinger at the point. Of that goes in. Like you even gets over time, there's. There's so many instances where Tampa was just super lucky. Tampa has had pretty much every single lucky bounce like you think about you're talking about the caloric goal how it goes right over dobie shoulder. Lindell's on it. He makes the stick play. He sticks him gets the puck deflects right into the top corner. Vassilev ski standing straight up. It's a write in the pad when he's not even looking can't see anything. To other goals bounced off stars, players winning the the stupid over the net. was, that. Starts making great play on the Great Putt shop. Flies right over the net right to breaking point like there's any he his hand eye coordination. Any slapstick like. I nothing is going to start away right now. Absolutely nothing. Like even Steven Stamkos. WHO's completely at your everybody knows he's injured. We came back to the game I was still pretty sure he was injured, and of course, he was and he still scores a goal. For five minutes, not even five minutes. He dating played three minutes. He didn't even blink three minutes scored. Like, all series long. And this as still. Off, and he's still get snow goal. He's been playing. More the twenty minutes every night stamkos played. Two minutes. The there's. There's nothing going to stars way. Why I don't know if it's fate, the Tampa has to win now the team and that the dynasty starts here but it's what it feels like. If feels like there's nothing we can do to win ref Sir against us with without intent obviously like I said. Luck is against US injuries are against us. In. The hot powerplays against us you know what I'm thinking is maybe we're starting to understand what Colorado felt like against us. Okay maybe a little more aggressive gets the stars there in the Cup final instead of round two I think, right? Okay. Call of things I WANNA. Hit So. All right. So one of the things that was frustrating me more than anything was. Our inability to get out of our own zone. And we just moved tonight there we. I. Know You said that we played well and you think we played well. In I don't think we played well. I don't. In the main reason I think that is because of our inability to get out of our own zone. And It was constant turnover after turnover turnover and it may be it will hold on it wasn't just in the defensive zone. Not just in the defensive zone, it was in the neutral zone as well. It was. It was constant I. Mean we look at the giveaways tonight stars had twenty eight. In the Tampa Bay. Lightning had nineteen. So that's a lot for both teams. But the stars had almost thirty almost thirty giveaways. So the. It was anything. It wasn't constant. Through out the gain hungry. Obviously Times where Tampa was pressing hard and they had to won two super trap there's times when they didn't have possession of the puck and they had five guys in the Ozo-. So there's obviously times when Tampa change their their formation to pressure the stars and when they did that it worked until the stars broke out of it it had great chances the other way and. That's when we got great chances on the rush whenever they were trying to pr trap us and we got out of it. Clean. So there's the obviously played that reward and that's why we couldn't get in but there were large swath of throughout the game where the stars had complete control in Tampa was just dumping changing start going back in grinding, grinding, grinding, Tampa dumping changing so. Obviously when Tampa was for check on it was very frustrating. We could get out of the zone that's because they are so aggressive that was one of the most aggressive or checks I've seen. It worked obviously but. I don't think that that mid that Tampa was playing best I think. Like, we were talking about the only reason Tampa wins is because. They have three power play goals against the depleted penalty kill. So. I think the idea that we lost five on five is very incorrect. No I, I'm not saying five I'm five. Well, you're saying we were worse by on five no no absolutely not no. What I'm talking about is specifically in our zone, we could not get out of our zone and there, and like you said, there are large swats of time where it was just constant it. They just kept putting it back into our zone and we could not get out of our own zone to save our life. And it was. It was constant it like for ten minutes. Ten minutes of certain periods or over a first do the second period or whatever the rich large swats where we just could not get out of her own zone in our in our exits were not cleaned. Learn clean it with the same way the other way too right. We were able to pressure Tampa for crazy amounts of time as well. So I think there's lots of momentum changes when the momentum changed, it was super sharp in obvious. So I think I think you you were just focusing on the negative. For us not being able to get out rather than seeing both sides that would ever want team was was really on the other team wasn't able to get out either is going both directions. Okay. There wasn't a lot of neutral zone play in this game. Okay. Maybe I'm out of four check. Maybe I just didn't notice as much but in maybe it's because I'm just critical my own team more than the lightning but. I wanna see something better related. I've felt awful whenever they were doing that to us it was scary. Here's another thing that I mentioned this on twitter. I felt like the speed of this series is dramatically. Slower than any of the other series that we've been a part of. The speed. In l.. Thanks I totally think so compared to Vegas. Yes. Absolutely. But no especially compared to Colorado compared to Calgary in Colorado no way yes way. At Not Brooke I'm not. I'm not talking about the stars themselves. I'm talking about everybody. The everybody just looks super tired. Antonino what I really don't blame them considering how much hockey that they have played over the past almost two months now And, you know what the stars may be. Tired. But Tampa Bay played way more time than the stars have. They head of the head of a five ot game. It didn't look like tired hockey to me but tomorrow it definitely will so. Well today look like that's no doubt I was worried about today 'cause today looked like tired hockey to me in I was thinking. Today. Looks Tired Hockey with his tomorrow. We're GONNA look like so. You WanNa take some twitter questions. Sure. Sure. Okay. So. We we have a couple here tonight so So at B. Castle Texas DX. He asked that we're going back to penalties again. Does that pretty bogus embellishment they called justified the ridiculous call on Ben and I'm guessing the embellishment call he's talking about the point. Penalty and then he says because let's be honest I get a stick in the nuts and I'm probably going down to. Yeah. I completely agree with that. But again, the reason it's called, we already talked about it it obviously from the point of view they thought period got a hip they didn't think he got. In. Know the nets so I think if they saw him in the nuts, there would be no question that it would have been spearing and he would have been gone. And the reason it was called is because of all the embellishment earlier in the game and even with even if. Defied, do you think it's justified? Not Justified I was about to get to that too. Even if it was a complete bogus embellishment call which it kind of was, it wasn't complete bogus for we talked about but even if it was. A four on four versus a two minute penalty. In overtime. Does not compare at all. Not even. Close Oh. To answer your question absolutely not. please. Reference earlier in the podcast. Right. At Aries One, who starts Gold Tomorrow Tyler Sagen. Because he can't score and he wanted to go when it looks like he does. But he's tried real hard. So we get them try real hard in the net only be good. Three will come easy. Our right. So You put do put bishop in net. No I don't think. So either I think if you didn't put bishop in that last game, you're not GonNa go to him we which isn't a bad decision. We saw what happened last time pressure whitten net so I think it's going to be Khudobin again and Great comebacks start with the first game so. We'll see what happens. All right at Menin ill gaito one. Why did mirrow get the chance on the and three instead of Clean Berg? Klingberg is a way better choice. I I'm Oh in my opinion. Do you agree with that statement. I don't think I agree with that statement. I. Think I think what they were getting at was this game because definitely clinger looked outstanding. This game in mirrow didn't look as on Amir's in very quiet. He was still great 'cause he's Mereu Heiskanen in there's tons of places like mirrow but. CLINGER looked amazing. So. I completely. I kind of agree with that I think I think that's a coaching decision that should have been made on the fly. I think the reason was out there was because that's what was practiced right like they're like if we have four hundred situation, this is what we're. GonNa do. That's what they decided to just stick with but I agree coaching decision should have been made to put the hot guy on the ice. So actually kind of agree with twitter on this one good job twitter. Okay. Well that's interesting because. In a way I can see it. But I don't think there is a right or wrong decision on that one. Here is your best defenseman. Klingberg has been hot. It. Cost you the penalty kill like either way. Both of those guys are very capable of scoring but in that game, I think the technically correct coaching move would be put the guy who's doing well that game on the ice. Right. And I think that's it. That's all right. So. Amazing. Legendary comebacks start with the first win. All right. So this is the most. So let's see the stars show some heart show some pride. In Win The frigate hockey game it's going be so hard to come back from this after a game like that to. Kevin Asia that fast on a play that terrible on the very next night on the very next year eerie nature. We talked about this last podcast. This momentum is gonNA push. Stars after show some. Phenomenal mental toughness I wouldn't be able to do it I'm GonNa say that right now, I would still be bitter. There's no way I would be able to. But let's hope the stars or better. The masons I'm not a professional athlete and they can put this behind them. It find a way to win the first game. That's what the series is from. Now on, find a way to win the next game, find a way to not go home. That's all you're trying to do from now on. So do you make any lineup changes? So as soon may broke out as resume robea is out Fox's out in Komo's out. Do you put in it? Okay. So Nick Camano against the staying in and then Give your onto out while he's been in already but. So looking at the players let me pull this because I'm I'm actually very curious to figure this out well, while you're looking at it, tell you who I want to. Go on I, want Roberts in it. I thought Robertson Awesome in the few games he did play up in the NHL I was hoping he would stay on longer. I felt he got better and better with every single game. So I'm hoping he gets a chance in he definitely has a a stick that can find the back of the net. So I I hope they put him on the ice i. also think inches is not going to be back next game. I'M GONNA disagree with you. You're wrong. PHUC. News. I. Think we need a little bit of Justin dowling. You. I know. I know you say that, but what are we short on right now? We are short on bruising forwards now, he's not exactly that. But who is more a bruising forward, Jason Robertson or just darling you are correct just a deli in who can kill penalties probably more. So who is predicted to be a top six forward? That's Robertson. That's not what we need right now we got some scoring from our forwards today. What we needed, what we need is defense what we need is defense. Those are some good points, but I hate to own. I I don't see how you can go to Jason Robertson. I like him. And you weren't careers actually I've got to agree with you on this but you're. Still. Wrong. Okay. So Here's the other interesting thing that you could do instead of putting out. Twelve forwards. You could go. With eleven forwards seven defensemen. Now. If that's the case. Who would who would you put in? You put Taylor for Dan back. Then I wouldn't do it because. The stars role for lines, and that's one of their biggest assets is that they will for lines I. Agree. Then that's I. Think. dowling. Depth guys are good enough to do it. So Colorado and be Rhonda at both been great. I think whoever comes in. Now we'll still be good. They're not going to be the exact guys that are Fox Coamo dragon have that play style, but they're still going to be good hockey players and I think the stars you trust those guys and. You let them play, you roll the four lines like normal. I think you're right. I think you're right. I think that's that's why I'm GonNa Expect to see I'm GonNa see who expect to see Khudobin in net and I'm GonNa expect to see Justin dowling. In in for hints if that's the case, even though I know hints is a is a top six forward for us even though he's on the third line, he scores like he's atop six forward. But. We need more of that night grit that depth that. New People who can kill penalties that that was the difference in this game. To. against. As Long went is almost forty minutes, but we had a lot. We had a lot to talk about tonight so. Our guys, they offer listening marks with along with Chris I am Ryan Chambers. You can follow us on twitter at star casting are you can find us on our facebook page remarks and then you can also subscribe to our Youtube Channel. So after each game we we've started taking twitter questions. So if you look for our twitter handle right after the game game five whether win or loss will be taking questions and we'll be happy to answer any questions that y'all have. Both. Stars sluice. Down Three Games one. Comeback starts now baby come back. Time. I don't know how much have right now the don't beat I'm GONNA have. Yells. Stores are at their best I have no faith but I have. Not, even have. Ra. Thanks we'll see you on the flip side. Good night.

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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 108: Featuring Jack Eichel, Noah Hanifin, And Oliver Ekman-Larsson

Spittin' Chiclets

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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 108: Featuring Jack Eichel, Noah Hanifin, And Oliver Ekman-Larsson

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So the fellas and introduced them wanna let you know. We got a big show flay today. We got Jack Eichel and no Hannifin both of them. At the same time. We'd have an interview with a few weeks back and Arizona coyotes captain. All of ecm Lon also popped in for a little bit. So we got them coming on a little bit. In the meantime, let's check in with the boys. Let's go to the desert Paul business d- what is up very excited for two soda week launch here, and we're gonna, fuck and dig in the divisions voice. Yeah, we're going to get into the Pacific Division in a little bit. Let's say Hello to boy, Ryan Whitney bucket Sunday night. I'm fucking getting crushed, gambling. Giants who down ten nothin fuck you to fuck. And I had a friend early. They blew a fucking thirty. Amblin west down so much money, and I take the giants or down ten, nothing ally manning that he's washed up. I know there was a hockey podcast, but that guy is washed up. No is stupid. Fac- makes it that ugly face those. The goofy s body as a parent wrench on them though. Not even choking. I just thought of that. But yeah, no, what's up guys? It's up listeners. You really happy back. Erica, we go to daily episodes now. So he's bookie and Oculus producer Mike rallied bound out the Big Apple. Now, what's always boys boys Grenell Grenell had a notch last night. Why sleep over? I call them today sleepover Grenell road. On one bringing meter came into the podcast right now. That's what I'm here for boys. Now, Mary guys gotta talk squawk. How'd you meet her matter? Ota Friday night. Oh, so just met her out Friday night. Saturday night noise actually kind of weird. She asked me to go on like this, like go to go to a friend surprise party on Saturday night. So I said, yeah, and wash. Yeah, it was. It was her parents were there. So you just met all her friends the day after you met her? Oh, yeah. Holy shit. Really matter. Take it from. The top. How was the chemistry. Great. Ken, how is your performance? So here. Whiskey too. So my my roommate Ono I put on a show, my roommate. He's got this carpet. He put on spitting chiklis and how to listen. He's got this in the living room minutes, like one of those like shaggy carpets. It's like a sex carpet. It's got like two inches of like of carpet. It's really you're saying it's easier on the knees. No, yeah. No, my knees are killing me right now. They're all grown up. I got some rug burn right now CBD bomb on it. So you're basically having a better a better start to the season than all of recommend. Larson you move to NYC get a new fat contract. I mean, he got a fat contract and the sea, but I don't think you've got an Amish man, so you got you got the Tri factor. Well, thanks man. Whose both were you on yesterday? Grenell I saw on syndrome. I don't know, man, I didn't know anyone. I had no idea where I was. It was one of those things where we were passing the statue of liberty. I was buckled on this like yacht on Mike. What the fuck am I doing here? How did I end up here? I, I've paused your Instagram story like nine times to try to see the face on the checks, my colleague skirling up. Okay. All right. Little Vido end Alenia out there up money. So one of us is hot are what's going on in the NHL news right after I lost episode, you big news. I guess it's somewhat expected. The legend of Detroit and rigs Ediburgh two thousand eight months might trophy winner. Officially retired. I shouldn't say. I think he's saying he's not planning more. I don't. He's still has money on the table, so I don't even think he put his papers in, but he's done playing hockey, incredible career. I, I think it was a little under a point per game. Just the absolute legend rose. When the games were the highest wits. I mean, how you played against the minutes daily cut me and you could say a lot more than I can. Yeah, he's matched up against Sidney Crosby that entire series. I got a lot to say about about z. Henrik said Aberg. One of the best people I've ever met. I'm not talking hawk in the hockey world. Just an amazing guy who makes people feel comfortable right when you meet and there's there's never any awkwardness. There's never any any ego in him at all hottest shit to his beard. Look so good. He's got great hair like most Swedes, but guys, listen the number to ten comes into my head immediately. When you think is that Bergen you know you wondering how many is that goals? Is that playoff points, blah, blah? No, that's what he was drafted in the seventh round. He was the two hundred tenth selection which just shows you. I mean, that's one thousand nine hundred ninety nine which I believe was in Boston, Massachusetts. I was at the draft. How are ya is a big up and coming. So why don't you come on down to the draft? This'll be you and a couple of years. Zebra was not there when I was there only went to the first round. So two hundred and tenth pick, and he comes over to Troy. And you're a flood Geiger this guy. This is the guy who never played a game in the h. o. and that's saying something for most people, right. I mean, the the, the most special players in the in the world, they usually they don't plan the ancho, but in Detroit, it very rarely, rarely gray are so cool with sticking somebody for two years in the minors. They really don't care. But he came over right away and he, he was able to prove that he was ready to play in the NHL and then just learning from all those guys. And we recently interviewed Sean Avery, who was I think his second year zebra was a rookie and and talked about the team. They had that ten hall of famers, and I think learning from those guys Ediburgh learned what it took to become an amazing pro off the ice. He already had the skills and the game on the ice. He kept getting better and better and better an amazing offensive player. And I kind of think of them as as a two way centre, though, like in my mind, I don't just think often. Stud. And that's a guy who had ninety two point two one year in the NHL is career two thousand seven, two thousand eight when he won the consummate than dummied me ruined my whole life. But an amazing career that that unfortunately is ending with injury, and I was within this summer it was never brought up after, but he told me this summer like, got it hurts a lot, and we were on a golf trip, so I know people are like, what are you talking about? It hurts idea what's going on with ours agents, generative. He has such bad arthritis in there that he's basically risking if you were to take a bad hit. He's looking at a chance of his back being fucked up forever. And I mean, this is the guy who has it's not worth it at this point. All do what can't you do? And he's in a very, very special class of players who have won an Olympic gold medal, a Stanley Cup and a world championship gold medal. So nothing left for him to do last year. He was still wanted to -troit's best players. In a tough year for that team. But Ken hall came out and said, one of the greatest Red Wings to ever wear the uniform. I completely buy that his uniform number will be retired in the rafters number forty just to a great friend known at somebody that I met through Dan cleary in and has since then you know, become a good friend to me in that, you know, we text each other on the on the side during the year, and you know he'll send me snapshots or whatever of of me on NHL network. Just making fun of me. Guys, like only fuck looking at suit what you. It's style Jesus. Christ lace afro says all this stuff, but we team up. We team up every year on that golf trip. We're always partners. We beat hor cough theory. I think three years in a row now, thanks for coming on. How are you? I kind of carries Edberg in that match. Not gonna lie. I love them and I know I talked a bit too much. It'd be better than us hall of fame speech, actually Jewish hall of fame speeding who should match up there. And I'm just like PS PS done. You have a pretty big. Hold off the stage, the hall of fame. Burg's like you've pretty much covered it all. I mean, a very small class of guys who played over a thousand games in the NHL, of course that it with the same organization and another guy who just made Detroit Redwings scouts look like legends because you know, you mentioned he was a seventh round pick. I mean, you dad Sukhumi a late round pick and around that errors when all they had these guys popping under nowhere where people were like, holy, fuck, not only did they got the hall of famers, but they're turning seventh rounders in a future hall of famers. Yeah, so nice little. That was a nice little sendoff by you wit and it's unfortunate. We won't get to see him that man rocket play again. Oh quickly quickly. Well, worth thing. I forgot off Nyquist and Kron while were telling me. The best thing that's Ediburgh did was if they had a game on the road and then they knew they were able to kind of go out as a team after very rarely nowadays we've said on this, do you play on the road not fly out after? So the nights you are staying in the city guys are like, come on. We got to have a good game because we, we get to go out tonight flights in the morning. What else are you going to do after the game? Zenit Burke was notorious notorious for having Nick Ron wall quoted. He said this minimum of three points in a game when we knew we were going out after in the city, and he's telling me to stores while back while back on laughing this year, they're playing in Vegas and I knew they were staying over and I'm like, I wanna see what's Edberg does five points. No. This guy so good. And then he really bears style when they're staying overnight. Hey, I remember it was early in the season because they came to play Arizona. They went to Vegas after and points. It was four pretty sure it was five points in Vegas which we smoke them. I think they smoked Vegas that night, but the hands of mother. I didn't actually I didn't have his numbers in front of me. I just want to shout them out nine hundred sixty points. It was three hundred thirty seven goals. Six hundred twenty three assists in thousand eighty two games for point eight, nine points per goal points per game average. That's pretty nasty. One hundred and twenty points in one hundred and thirty seven playoff games pretty outstanding. Two in the area did when the cons might thirteen goals. Fourteen assists for twenty seven points in twenty two games. And even the next year when Detroit lost the Cup to Pittsburgh, he had eleven goals. Thirteen assists twenty four points in twenty three games in if you want to get a good shot of the clients might trophy. Check out my Instagram page. I slapped up a couple of picks from when I snuck in the locker room after they after they won the. Cup that night and not only I mean a thousand eighty two games, but one hundred and thirty seven playoff games. And I think we can all agree. Those count is basically double on your career. And I mean, that's that's an amazing feat, amazing career. And I think we gave them a nice little sendoff together voice. Absolutely. Well, well deserved, man. Watch what else is going on around the league are a couple signings or at least one, Josh, MARCY. He was RFA and Winnipeg. He just re upped the me find those numbers right here. Defenseman for solid player play. Yeah, I think it was a little over three. I'm gonna pull them up while talking, hey, yeah, he's, he's, he's, he's in a row. Rascal little play where he likes to mix it up, but wouldn't you say, what would you say? I said, he's, he's in Iraq play. He likes to mix it up. Yeah, yeah. It's like that's pretty impressive. Rascal never heard that guy who like. Make that could be trouble trouble mitt. Yeah. Basically, it means he's impish like a troublemaker likes to stir shit up. I don't know if I've described him like that, but I would say he's hard to play against. It may not be because he's overly physical and in your face and you know, kind of like a rat type player, but he skates well, he's a smart player. I would use the word cerebral is that word? Bo-kaap oil is this is this is getting a little too intelligent for me. I just woke up from a nap too. So let's just down of it. Well, listen, this is the guy who two years ago played all eighty two games last year played eighty one. So very reliable in terms of being on the ice, right? The best ability is reliability. Is that what they say? You know, biz if you're trying to build a team, you want a guy who's going to be in the lineup every night. So Morsi stay healthy. Great. I pass keeps the game pretty simple. I mean, this is the thirteenth overall pick. So if you're looking at. Top fifteen pick. You might sometimes think he's gonna be really good offensively. I think this is just a really good overall player. Twenty points two years ago, twenty six last year. So he jumped up there this year. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him around thirty thirty five and a big in a big important piece for Winnipeg one of the top teams heading into this season, so good for them to get them signed because I was curious when that would win that would go down. Boys are just complement the giants for Christ's sake. I, you know, obviously there's a rivalry between Winnipeg in Arizona, but just a quick shower to Winnipeg in that organization as a whole, drafting a developing players properly managing their assets. They are going to be a very strong force this year. That's central division is gong show. And then I mentioned it. I think glad loss podcast is it's going to be a cock fight and it's tough for them to make an oath, especially with the way they align the playoffs set up and. I mean, it's yeah, it's pretty wild. Those numbers biz mar. He signed a two year, six point, three million dollar deal. So three point, one, five bridge. It's a bridge if I ever saw on. Absolutely. Absolute- bridge jail. He it's like ego kid. Let's keep doing what you're doing, improve a little and then you had a nice Little Haiti and a couple of years. So happy for the team. I'm sure they get them at that price. And you know the kid has an opportunity to make some big golf. He has a couple of nights. Boys, I think we're going to get into a right now, but because we're kicking off the two episode week and we're heading into season training camps have begun. We're going to go over the divisions and then we're going to rank teams, offense, defense, goaltending. And even at the end, we're going to put our predictions in for who we think's gonna make playoffs. At the top of the division, of course, maybe fills into the wild card role. So but boys before we throw it over to our assessment of the Pacific Division, which is became a monster with the Carlson trade. We're going to have another Swede on and close friend of mine recently named captain of the Arizona coyotes. The biggest wagon undercover secret of the Pacific and he's gonna come on and just talk about his. His success in the NHL has huge ticket. And of course becoming the fourth captain and Arizona coyotes history and having a live with you. Correct. So we're gonna headed it off to Oliver Larson right now. This was. Brought to you by Dollar Shave Club, no matter what you're doing. The bathroom to get ready Dollar Shave Club has everything. You need to look feel in smell your best. 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So I felt like I had to or out do now, but this is what I need to know like, why did you ever let this guy Bisson it live with you? Is that true? And were you always there? Do you actually leave them alone in your house too? Because God knows what was going on there. Wow. Well, I needed somebody to clean my place and said the, he couldn't really afford a place. So I was nice enough to to having stay in my place to clean shots right there all Christ. Let's just end this now. All of our I know last year you know there is there was rumors that you were going to get the c. and you know maybe not necessarily a bad thing. They kind of let it breathe a little bit. Of course, she known how to forever, but got to be a big relief to finally get it while I guess this summer and then not only on top of that, get that fat contract. Yeah, I felt like talk rid did the right thing there to to waiting and go to, to know his players little but more for c. center. So I think it was good that that I kinda got a year to to really get back on my feet after my my mom passed and just having fun with hockey again. So so it's nice to finally beat a cap then and super excited. And I think we can do some damage this year all over that was I'm sure a tough season for you kept under wraps for a bit. The fact that she was sick and and played through it and still played on believably towards the end of the season before last you you, you went back to Sweden to to deal with that. Just, you know, talk about the impact that's had on you in your family and how you've done to try to get over it. Yeah. Well, obviously, family always goes first, right? So it's kinda hard, but I couldn't really do much. She wanted me to stay over here and and I wanted to do that for her. So that was pretty easy for me to to make that decision to to stay over here and play and dude for. So what's going on nice to to to just be around the guys because that helped me a lot to not think about it every every single second. So by, like I said, it was was a tough year for me and my family, and it was like I said, just being around two guys and and the sport that I love helped me a lot. And then you had that often are sorry that off season to decompress and and you came back last year, new coach, new system. I mean, overall the team with a terrible scheduled early on to how to tough start, but you still end up coming back to rattle off fourteen goals in a full eighty two game season. You played every game. I was looking at your hockey Oliver, every full season you played in the NHL you've had double digits in goals. I mean, has that been something that you have you always been a score. No, but actually, after you left the team have been beneath to score. I, I think I have the puck more. Yeah, you third, fourth or second, third, tearing back then you'd utilize get stuck with guys like me on the ice. So ever since then act the back years with twenty. As soon as I left. Yeah, no. But I, I mean, I think I got to play more and more and felt more comfortable out on dis and being keep you handle. We built some chemistry onto Powell playing. I think that that's probably why I scored a lot of goals that that's Eason big time friend of the podcast, Keith Yandell. So I, I have a question you come over from Sweden and your rookie year you play a little bit in the minors most of the year in the NHL forty eight games that year. Did you start the minors. No actually made a team or a write off Cam. So I started playing went over to Europe with Paul. And then we, we actually had our first two games in Prague, and that's. Yeah, exactly. So that was a nice trip and got to know the guys. I didn't say much back there and, but it was nice and it was gonna nice to to be close to home through. So my family could come and watch the first two games. That's that's pretty special, so busy. Did you know this? This kid was like this good right away, Ralph and get 'em out like being bad off the ice or what was the deal right away? Skated like a dove. And I remember being in line with Chen, dove like a dove. It doesn't even try out. There does muzzles around. It's a joke, not fair, but chain dome we were standing actually children line and he looked at me. He goes, this guy's going to be special, and I was, I was like, shut up, shut up, donors, biscuit. There's. There's. But you're right, all but I know he was always going to be a special player. Alright. Do you member that series when we went over to Boston? A play are sorry, run over to check the play, the Bruins. Absolutely. Yeah. That was the Bruins went on to win the Stanley Cup that year because actually Brian McGrath was on the Bruins for that trip at the he ended up getting cut, but all of I had a question fly, I know nNcholas to miss the name that comes up when we talk about retired Swedish defenseman, but is a guy was wondering if you looked up to when you were a kid Fredrik. Olsen. Did you watch him play when you were young? Was he too old for you? I'm probably my get in trouble if I said that he was too old, but I didn't. I didn't watch him play, but I, I heard a lot of good things about him and he was actually used from close to my home phone. So I heard a lot of good things about it. Yeah, you guys have obviously Swedes, but you similar styles of play. I watched them play the same franchise Winnipeg which became Phoenix years ago and you guys very similar. I believe he broke his power play goal record for the franchise. Correct? Yeah, that's. That's right. Suck on that one. One of the question, there's there's no real. I mean, the might be an exception to, but there are no real, sweetest bums in the NHL all the Swedes come over. They have a great worth that they really play hide hockey. They played field hockey. What would you attribute that to for the Swedish hockey players? Why did they have such a good worth. I think we have a great program right from the start. When we started playing back home, everybody is like the dis is bigger and and we learn how to skate fast and and handle the puck pretty good. I'm not gonna say that every Swedish player is good at that, but for the most part and that's the way we play back home. Yeah, I'm on the euro's. You certainly do have a good reputation in the NHL. Unlike some other ethnicities, we won't mention risky. You just mentioned him. That's joke. What about Peter Forsberg? I know he was a fuller, but that was that a guy just every young hockey player in Sweden looked up to it because he's basically a goddamn for the postage stamp. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I had, I always had Nick, I always looked up to him and then Peter fors- by because he scored a lot of goals and and and and won the Cup Cup or one time there too. So I mean, that's probably the two biggest names back home. So that was there. There were my idol growing up. I always wonder with guys from Europe, not not just reading but say, you know, seven, eight, ten years. Whenever you're done playing, do you think you'll live over here? Would you think you'll whenever the career ends in North America you'll you'll move back and live in Sweden, the rest of your life. I think I might. Spend the summers back home in Sweden because they're, it's, it's beautiful there in the summer. And then when it gets starts to get cold there over in Sweden, I might keep my house here in in Phoenix and Risona. So yeah. So I mean, I've been here for eight years now and and this really feels like home, and that's why I decided to stay here over your your brothers over with the organization over here, which is, which is awesome because you have some family close to you. Chances are he'll start the season in Tucson, just talk about that a little bit and having them over here in a few signs us down the Rosie, go watch you play. Yeah, no, it's awesome to to having close. I get to see him a couple of games in down in Tucson every year now and and it's a lot of fun. We haven't really been super close, but I think the last two, three years we started to to hang out in the summers and do a lot of fun stuff. So it's it's awesome for him and and it's really good for me to have him close to. So do you have you have anything else for me about like living with biz? Like, tell me something about this guy that I can use for the rest of the time, something scummy about of something cheap. Just give me give me anything. No, I was actually surprised because he, he, he cleaned he, he cooked like he was unbelievable. He if all over I would you're the first guy to back me up on this podcast and I appreciate that actually. And then we went for a fun night after the season last year and and I picked up the tab. We won't talk about where it was. We'll keep it under wraps all Oliver's. All your pretty secretive guy, which is good. You keep all your your personal life under wraps just like you biz biz. Well, well, I've been around you and I, I've seen that you get in a lot of trouble. So I'm trying trying to opposite. So you've void me at all costs all all in the in the market to purchase a new home in paradise valley where maybe you guys, I actually, I actually did all you go on it. Yeah, it's a dumb deal. So I'm moving to twenty eight what an off-season new. You get the c. you get the new big fat contract. I don't know. You may like seventy eighty million dollars, and then you buy a new house in PV man, your your life is going pretty good, Oliver. Yeah, it's I'm feeling pretty good right now, and it's a lot of fun. Like I said it straight living every and every so I and I love it here. I talked to me about Zetter Burg retire. And do you know on well and have you sent him a text yet? No, I haven't. I got got the chance to play with him a couple of times. Great guy, get hockey player, so no sad to see. It's sad to see the. He had to to retire that way. All right. Well, I'm curious, I years a captain. Does anything change for you? I mean, there's going to be times you kinda at some point throughout the season. Even if the captain's lead by example, you got to address the team talk. Have you thought about how things will change for you and how you'll approach a being in the locker room a little bit different? Or are you going to try to pretty much keep the same low profile and let you play? Do the talking. No, I think it'll old probably stay the same. Try to lead lead on on Dyson that I never been been super, super loud into room, but but I don't have that problem if I have to speak up and and do that. I'll will. So we'll see. I haven't really thought about that yet. It's pretty pretty new to move to new to me still. So we'll see we'll all over. We want to thank you for popping by. And of course hopefully the coyotes can start the season the way they finished its second half of the season. One of the best teams in the league and you were on fucking fire last year. I think you've finished with what fourteen tux. Yes, you're right. Holy shit by damn anyone year. Hope. Let's hope for. Yeah, thank you very much. You don't have. You're on your own. I just put my stick on the ice wall. You still did it though. Thank you. Thank you, buddy. You publicize Oliver. Thank you so much for hopping on and we'll see you tomorrow. Yeah, thanks guys. Thank you very much. All recommen- Larson the smooth skating Swede fun to watch biz. I'm sure it's a lot of fun for you to kind of announce his games. Lou interested. He. He made my talk about Berg, look, even crazier. He was like a good player. Good guy. Okay. Well, thanks all of our really appreciate it. So I'm not impressed. He's like whatever you didn't sign a ticket like I did. All right. So Pacific Division boys, where are we starting Anaheim? Top of Anaheim? Alphabetical order. Okay. So all you fans, we're not saying Anaheim is going to be number one division were just going by the as a what's before is our after n. for hours ONA. Yeah, we're gonna have Arizona next summer to fall. Calgary at our was share, say Vancouver. Thanks, cool nights. Okay. All right. Well, let's talk about the Anaheim ducks a little bit boys, right? This is a team that, and, oh, I also wanted to tell all of those centers as we talk about these teams and we give her predictions, like, let's be honest. So it's before the year, we don't know just doing our best, can't hyper type teams they are. So don't fuck command us with data already talking about like this guy Bleda like we might mess up some things. We might be wrong in my team that I picked to be worse than the league Vegas might go to the Cup miles just shut your yet onto Anaheim teams getting a little older boys get the live. Old or now I love the club. I love their back end and that's kind of where I'm going to start camp Fowler and hampers Lynn home, dominant players, especially at times. I mean, I think that last year, Fowler being injured for a little bit of the really hurt this team, but Brennan menteur, Josh Manson kind of round out their top for I really liked this group, it's where they, they're aging little bit up front where I kinda worry and a lot of guys are making a lot of money. You'll see what? What would you know what they're expected to produce? Will they will they not? I don't know. But that's going to be the question for this team because in net, Josh Gibson is very solid or is it John Gibson, holy, fuck John. Gibson John offer a, it's a Jay, and it's A Gibson. So j Gibson solid, very solid. I love the, but upfront is the kind of the question Mark for me. It really isn't besides Ricard for Cal and Ryan gets up, you know, you're gonna need a bounceback back from Perry and Kessler really. Would be going, and if they are, this team could be really hard to deal with because last year I was talking about them, we're in the Cup now bogging them. RA before a handed over to you all, say this. I agree, totally with the age thing. Of course, if gets Lavin. Perry. I mean, Perry's kind of lost a step a little bit. I still still like him net front presence. I would say their top three lines are extremely respectable. I like how they locked up Henryk too. I, I guess Ryan Kesslers and other guy, like depending on he comes back, he had that hip problem a couple years ago. He had surgery on it last season. His offense and output was not at at par with this past seasons. So Henry could be a good hinge guy. I think a lot of this offense is gonna depend on how Kesser either steps it up or or has a season like last another concern on my is depth on the fourth up front for the for the Anaheim ducks. I mean, you mentioned it, it's it's, we're going into training camp here. There's a couple of guys. I don't really know much about coming out of the American League. They got Troy Terry penciled in on the fourth line right wing. So all ain't playing fourth line, no chance. What what do you think he's going to be playing? Where are they could be top two lines? I think he's an absolute stud. These huge bright spot and kind of their their biggest up and comer in terms of like rookies or you know, younger guys, but he's American. So obviously I'm kind of blowing them alot, but will. Right. And, and once again, you know, Corey Perry not to take anything from what he's done in the NHL. He's slowing down a bit. So maybe they'll, they'll kind of throw Troy -tarian they're a little bit. I mean on that right side, they're pretty strong Silverberg on the second mind penciled in cost Cossack I believe how you pronounce it. And then as far as the back end, I guess it's still the same concern is the depth on that the third pair. I mean, I don't know who they got penciled and right now they got Luc Shannon, Lee Hsien who's a good penalty, kill guy. I mean, but just overall, like I mean, as far as depths concern based on the rest of the division, that would be my concern. And then that I think they got, they got a good goalie there. And then of course, a good backup, which I believe is Ryan Miller. Are still. Really? Yeah. You do feel like like what said, the get a little aged upfront and you feel like there's window for Perry and gets left his closing, they won the Cup shit. That was eleven years ago. Man. I was that was a while ago. You know, Ricky goes really been a surprise for them. I mean, thirty four goals last year, thirty five assists in the best part about him for the ducks. I would say it was his contract. He's under the same deal for four more years at only three point seventy. Nine million. Yes, that's pretty cheap money for a guy putting almost seventy points up for the d. they also brought in what's his face from Tampa, Andre Schuster. He's a little bit of a thumper on on the back and there, but they they didn't really bring. They lost be ex army. I don't. I don't know if that's a huge loss, but they didn't really seem to bring it any big free agents or big names. They got into the playoffs for what they have last year. I think it's a solid team. But yeah, I think depth, like you guys said, I think might be an issue for him unless somebody kind of comes through this year, we're not expect, and they do appear to be all set and gold and the John Gibson DC. Better than decent yell, nine, two, six s p with a two, four, three, four shutouts you know, thirty wins. He had a good. Yeah. So the thing is though that's such a tough division, I think the league, so competitive man, they can have a good year and since still not be a top three automatic playoff business in this, we're gonna get to the playoffs in a little bit so Anaheim. Yeah, they didn't really do much to improve. They really didn't do much to, you know, Joe fade off a bit, so it's gonna be interesting. I I'd imagine they'll probably just kinda coast belong like how they've been doing boys. I don't know about you, but I haven't as a bubble team, but I got a missing the playoffs this year. I just think the Pacific's too strong. I think that it is. I don't know it just it's gonna be tough to compete with that lineup to to make it to the dance. I think they get in the playoffs. I don't. I I will say two things because I was a member of the Anaheim, ducks organization. One, we kind of make Corey Perry, you know, it sounds like we're kind of dogging him a little bit, so just wanted out join throw out what that guy's been. I mean, hate him. If you're not a ducks fan and how. He plays love him. If your ducks fan, incredible career, unreal player. But God, I think is turning thirty four pretty soon thirty three or eight around then. So it's old now and just by losing a half a step, I think you see, that's why I took a step back, but who knows? Right? Maybe this year, maybe this summer, the way trained something Cheney come back in and rips it up. So don't want us to think that we're under appreciating the type of player Corey entire career. Second thing, Bob Murray, the GM either hates my guts more than anyone or is the rudest person. Dude. I used to see this guy in the mornings. He wouldn't even think about saying, Hello, he'd walk right by you being the elevator with him. He weren't even say one word on like Jesus Christ. I think what the issue was though now that I'm really talking about this, he traded Kunitz for me twice. So pissed on. You made him look bad. I mean, if I bought me or. Kunitz, but kidneys, maybe that's why hated me either way. Not a very friendly person and it sucks being on the media side. You know, I was just calling the period thing for what it is. He's an awesome guy. I, I like him a lot. It just what for what he's making over the course of the last two seasons. He's only missed nine games and he had nineteen goals two years ago and last Jared, seventeen. So. That's a big drop off from up forty three thirty three thirty four fifty one year. Did he win the rocket Rashard. Yeah, one of the rocket Rashard MVP that year he got geez, you two major league award, so not looking good for them. Moving forward. Boys stick. We said, get a little old. We're going to move onto the quiet wagon the Arizona coyotes. RA you got any overt leg and business talking about the quiet wagging. I already you know biz I have a thing I come up with a company has on with Boston chief on our old plot. Gas call it like the trophy triumvirate. Like if you have Norris Calva goalie. Gnaws. Calvin defenseman Vezina Calva goalie in like a Selke Kalemba forward. Then that's going to kind of feel a team, the basis you can kind of build from that. You know, right now, I think Arizona has two thirds out with, you know, with all the Akron Lassen he's didn't really Kenny votes for the NAR slash really not his fault. It's just the way the voting went, but I looked at anti anti Ranta starting goalie. He didn't get one vote for the Vezina last year mock Andre floor came in, I believe, fifth, let me give you this stats mock Marc Andre Fleury at forty. Six game started same as Rhonda. Two point two, four goals against exactly the same mock Andre Fleury say percentages at nine, two, seven rathers was a nine three. Oh, so you get, you know, basically I think Vesna Calva goal Yalta I didn't see ton of him last year. I know he was hurt early in the year, but I mean, those are some outstanding numbers. I when I dug deep, I couldn't believe he didn't get not one point in the Vesna vote. Usually guy may give you fucking aether templates vote. He didn't get anything, so you've got him got lasting you basically there's some good pieces in place. I just don't think there's enough right now that they're really going to compete for a top three spot in the division. You know they, they're scorn. They were thirtieth in scoring last year. This special teams of middle of the pack, hopefully grab their gal. Shenyang good, solid pieces. I don't know that they either wanna move the needle. They should fill the net a little help with scorn. I see improvements biz I just don't see them get into a playoff level yet while we're in the course of a five-year rebuild. This is your four and five years. Don't need to five. Time out time out. I know you're years, what are we talking about here? Well, listen what we got to a point where you are getting older. We made those three years where we made playoffs in a row in the last year that we made our run, and we were always with that with. We don't tip wanted to be competitive and try to make playoffs to be like, hey, we need to kinda rebuild here. So it started then last year was just as we hit the top of the mountain. Now we're, we're making down so to speak. We picked up Rhonda and you know, he dealt with some injuries early on, but once he got going and settled in second half the season, he was one of the best goals in the league. Great. Move by Chaika I think to get Darcy Kemper Yeta. Awesome. Start the season with LA last year when quick was struggling and we locked him in for two more years. So as far as our goal tender's are concerned, we look great. And then we moved to the back end on Deekor which I think is the teams other big strength. Of course, you mentioned Larson Jason demerge while Yvette. He has a little bit of offensive presence, smart smart little defenseman, Jacob chicken. This guy's a physical specimen hot to always a fucking man rocket. He's eight all he's one of the best looking guy any kid, but he's had some bad luck. What do you get hurt last year, but back to back years, he's torn as ACL what same one that's I believe there are different. I think our boy fabriga biz I know and and chick chick came back. He started to new rhythm last year and he, I think he tore his his other one about five, six games left in the season. Both times he's tore them. He's came back like a month and a half before he supposed to guys like wolverine. And he, he repairs like crazy. He was posted as you're supposed to recovery on his Instagram all summer. And normally I'm not down with with the whole like post workouts the shit he was doing. An order to get back sooner than later was was fucking insane. He spent the whole summer away from his friends of family went to Philadelphia, and it's great to see that he'll be back sooner than expected. I, he's, he hasn't been cleared for contact yet, but imagine that you know early on the season, he makes his debut of. Of course, nNcholas Charleston, who they re up for two more years. So he has three total years left with with coach. He's a great, a great guy defensively on the back end, you know, probably one of the best shutdown defense in the league, they had to overpay a little bit for the back two years by I like how they only had to get him for two in order to do that. And then Alex color goski. I mean, you played with them wet all meeing goose. We live together for a little bit. Actually. He was like, I wouldn't say him in the tank. Were these upcoming studs and that was one of the reasons I think pit young, oh, we could trade whitney'll. You got these two guys coming Goosen. I used to take Ambien and then play NHL. Oh, nine against each other. On the coach with games like that. We're in the second period that we just like the ref was waiting to drop the POC. We would say, hell. We're playing like money for each game, but we could never remember how many games we played. Goose's the best hell. Nice. Nice. Little scouting report there. Mr., bam, bam. Of course to round off their sixth defense in the Kevin cannot and they brought him back last year. Coyotes defense or one of the best in the league at providing offense. Gola gos- Kia, twelve goals cannot had ten overall success year ten Kevin cannot attend tux. Last year. He signed a two year extension. So the back ends looking good the forward Ford's boys. There's a lot of question in our rail. Probably toss it over to you here you can go through the forwards if you'd like. Yeah, taking a look at last year's squad. I mean, Clayton Keller what a revelation he was in the running for rookie of the year. He ended up twenty three goals. Forty two assists sixty five points in eighty two games, but man, that's a kid. You build a future around. I, I love his. He looks like he's about twelve years old out there, but the kid gets at times Eric snapping, Patrick Kane, junior, yeah, yeah, absolutely crazy, but I don't think it will in five years. No, probably not Derek step and he's obviously great. Both ends of the ice. They brought him in from New Jersey. I'm sorry, New York copy as far as veteran leadership struggle a little early on, but he's the type of guy. You know when you build them with, they're trying to build out the biz he's type guy. You do need last year max Domi thing, obviously trade him to Montreal. They didn't get a great ton of goals. Item osteo, only nine goals. I would think that guilt genyk would more than make up for that on. Then you know, let's I think on be a big time. These have a pretty big year. I think it sim it getting out a month. Israel, it's getting away from that gong show off the ice and on the ice. And I think he'll be pretty solid. I wouldn't be surprised to see him playing with Clayton Keller wondering how the work their lines, but he could have a big, bounce back your boys, Clayton Keller Derek step on Richard panik finish year together, the tons of chemistry together. Yeah, they're matched up right now on Derek step on Mr.. Reliability. Here he's had five seasons in a row where he's at the fifty point plateau, I'd say as far as league standards are concerned, he's a high end second mind center. But last year he was big for this team and detrimental to a lot of the growth of these young players. As you look through the lineup per Leany, Fisher Strom divorced act like a lot of young guys loss and Krause's another other one Vinnie stroz who came over in the trades from Chicago. A lot of guys with question marks as far as can they bring it to the next level? And you know, it's, it's, it should be interesting because we have a lot of those types of players. So lot of it's going to depend on on who's going to, you know, make that make that jump in and fill out the top six role. Because right now it's not Christian Fisher and preliminary penciled in well, yeah, they had solid years last year, but the consistency in order to stay in that top six boys, you gotta think at least fifty points season. Yeah, put up a shut up. I got one question though. Fly biz can we agree? We re that Rick talk is the meanest lookin motherfucker in the NHL all. Yeah, he's, he used a tough customer when he played and he did a great job, especially after the tough start they had in just staying with it. And as I mentioned before, best, one of the best teams in the second half and season last year, let's not sleep on the fourth line you the Brad Richardson and Nick cousins, who Nick cousins is great, Swiss army knife, you can jump in a jump up into those top lines. Great with the puck provide some offense. So boys, I consider them hopefully a bubble team as as they make their rise, I think I could see that. I don't think it getting in the playoffs, but I think they're going to be hard to play against and they're going to cause a lot of issues for teams. So looked for a good season from the especially a bounce back after last year. Move onto the Calgary Flames than the RA. What do you think? Yeah, man. Every team they on. Shape. They have a lot of talent they brought in James deals, you know, for some scorn. He's obviously very good at that. Mike Schmitz top-flight goalie. I expect magic Chuck to get another year progress there. They weren't able to get the playoffs last year. I don't. I think they get back joining good dro-. He's he's a magician on the ice. I love watching that kid play the basically five will bring in the odds of five, the one, the win, the division, maybe might worth a small bet. I, I don't know that they're going to pick up the division, but I dunno, Calgary, they didn't have a good year last year. There was nothing you could put a one finger on, but they had a huge trade. They got rid of Dougie Hamilton that was yet another locker room that said, you know, he might not have been the best guy in that locker me the, they got rid of him brought in Noah Hannifin and drawing a blank who who came over in the trade with Hannifin the forward. Oh, allies lies involvement home, right. So you'll, you got a couple of new faces in the room that could that could be a big deal. I don't know if Dougie handled himself was dragging the team down, but I've been sound again like he was the most popular. A guy, but yeah, so Calgary's, you know, one of those teams men like, say, you look at them on paper, they got a good solid squad. They should compete this year. I think they will. I think they're going to be in the runoff. One of those top three spots in the division for Shuba I do too. I think they're kind of a a sneaky bed in terms of they could win the division. If if Mike Smith as well and they're deep plays like they can great top four, an in watching defense TJ brody's, very underrated player of he makes the game look very easy, how he skates. So well, he pushes the pace of the play. Alati carries the puck up isolate. So he's a very good player. Jeered Donald a great cap. Then I think that everyone in that room loves loves him and and guys love having him on the ice. He's a tough bastard. He's hard to play against the also some great offense. Travis and neck is a lot of potential there. I think that you know, you could see him jump in and jump out and become just a really dominant player or maybe kinda stay raise right now. You're wondering where. It'll go, but no Hannifin comes in there with a lot of proven, signing a big contract, and you know, funny that he's on on this episode even though we interviewed him a couple of weeks ago, but I like this team a lot. And when you get up front, Johnny Haughey our boy, Johnny ham and cheese is Keith Yandell calls him. He's one of the best in the world. So it's fun to watch that guy play. It's fun to watch him do his thing and, and Michael back land makes up a great part of that team. He's underrated Centerman. So they have a lot of lot of weapons up front because I'm good d and if Mike Smith plays well, it really they really could surprise and an end up doing a lot of damage in the Pacific and wild, like your guy's opinion is just how young they are, especially with the way the NHL set up all the travel and how much how much the pace is picked up. Just having those fresh legs all season and that young blood in the locker room on the. Yeah. And of course, the real deal to line up all those parties for all these young guys. So would you guess the oldest guy in flames is why would say jeered Donal but they got the perfect a perfect mix of vets in guys. Can you know who can lead these these young guys? I mean, if you look at their top six though, I mean could Chuck's fairly young noun hands, young, droves, young. I mean, Sam Ben, it's not that old Lynn home. They got, they got some some good young team self. I liked them. And you guys mentioned smitty stands on his head like he did for us. You're remade are run. I have no doubt that this team is is going to be a bubble team, but I think that they're gonna make it. Agreed agreed off the wait and wait and see what happens. Ooh, this is going to be a tough one. Attention. This is on boys. You know why? Because I lived there. I've played there, although I got shit on. I went to the fourteen different all those at the west Edmonton mall. I went to, I went to cactus club, waitresses, beautiful. Didn't talk to one of them. I saw Mike Comrie asked for the billionaires cut, even though it was called the millionaires cut steak, but he's still Reggie called the billions got always made me laugh. I I had to plug by goddamn Carin at night, so it did. So it started the morning because it's so fucking cold, Edmonton. I never got to play in the new rink though. I got to walk through the hall way from the dressing room to the ice or Dustin Penner looked at me my first game, it said, wait to hear the verbal abuse. I take on this walkout and then the doors went open and all of a sudden, Patty fat. Fuck you as lays back. Oh, my is. You. You beat shit argue. It was like our best player too. Oh. Beautiful always say, this city loves hockey. They deserve a winner. They got a winner for one year after the doldrums the twelve years of hell or whatever it was ten years. And then they made that run to game Seki seven of the second round. And then last year happen. So guys, let me tell you something before we go into their Ross. Before we talk, if this is bad. Again, this year, I don't even know what's going to happen because then you start talking about our MC, David's making this much money. What else can we do? Who are the guys here that are the issues we had the Goodyear. We thought we were ready to go. We had one step back here, but all that's okay. That was a fluke. That year was a fluke. We're going to be good. Well, if they're bad this year, heads up heads will roll who knows what will happen, but that team cannot come out and be shit again in their unreal, new rink with their fans who love hockey and hate players when they're bad and love them when they're good, they can't do it again. They can't deal with it. So mcdavid is going to be. David guys, he's Crosby mcdavid right? Best player in the world. Don't worry about him. It's what else do they have? It's what do they gift from goaltending it's what do they get on the back end because if they stink again, it's gonna be frigging hilarious. I know hilarious the right word. I'm not laughing at like them being bad, just the fact that like, oh my God, the Oilers are legit bad. Again, what the fuck and with one major concern for me is the drop off. I mean between dry style and mcdavid. They had one hundred seventy eight points last year. I mean, the next guy was Ryan Newman Hopkins at forty eight, and then it got worse from there, but I think that they're going to be okay. Like the addition of that tyrod he's a solid player. He was in the Saint Louis system for a bit was not. Yeah, he was. We were there with good, solid player either really good running in the minors. Obviously, you know, in order to be successful at the NHL level, you have to at least be able to dominate the age level. If you go there. I expect a huge bounce year from lunch in. I like the addition of Kyle broads Iak as well. Good, good. PK guy. Good for defensive zone faceoffs before he knows what he's getting into. Right and always can be. The food could be great. Most nights, some nights, it's bad. You know, he knows that, but then you know, and the, excuse me the back end solid. They got some solid players. Are they overpaying a couple of the guys there? Sure. Secure is on a pretty sick meal. They need to carry to be healthy. I said this last podcast. Oh yeah, for sure. I said this last podcast I think they need. I think they need a little morale boost. You know, because the the dark days happened a lot and Emerton I think that Scotty Upshaw who's there on a PTO. I think if he could make that team and he'd be good for that locker room put on the tunes, making the mood a little bit lighter to put them over the hump and get them where they want to be as an organization. So tell you though. I when I was in, we could have put on the fucking would've still finished in third place for sometimes it's just a matter, a guy and a name that needs to play well. He needs to be good. Is Jesse Harvey? Fourth, overall, pick in two thousand sixteen. You can't take a guy fourth overall and end up seeing him not have success to a high level top to lion guy. I mean, he's still young. This kid is is a lot of skill, a big body. I don't know how well he moves. There's games. He's looked great. There's games. He's looked a little slow footed. So maybe maybe this summer being how young he is all of a sudden he took a big step skating who knows, but they need that guy to come in and have a presence and not be in and out of the lineup and not occasionally getting power play time. And I mean, spent some time in the minors which isn't the worst thing, but you pick a guy that high when you have these chances to get these great players, you gotta be able to to hit home runs, and they're going to need him to have a good season if they want this team to kind of go where they think they can be. You know any roster at Ghana mcdavid on it is going to be topped heavy, of course. But this roster is really not very well put together it just, you know, it got mcdavid dry settles probably getting a little too much money. It just not really filled out in the bottom. But I think the biggest problem, you know, unlike the other former ranger goalie who was traded out west, we talked about anti Rhonda. I Cam Talbot needs to be much much better this year. He was also a range of that got traded yet a nine, eight save percentage at three. Oh, two goals against last year. That's just not good enough to be in the NHL. If you want to be a playoff team, he's got to be a lot better. He was better when he started there. I really fell off last year and I honestly, I think he was probably the biggest reason that they didn't have success lies Jerry. I think he was one of the worst players. And when you go is not good man, it has a ripple effect and other guys lose their confidence. And I think that was probably the RA is back befall REI dream, especially early on. And I think that that that was kind of the catalyst at the start of the year after that. It seemed like nothing could go right of course, Lew at a tough time scoring and the second half, but a lot of good geyser and I expected to have a bounce back year because you know, when all of those things are going wrong, it makes for a tough season. So we're going to move on. Yeah, we're going to move onto the fun teams. Boys, malay- kings, and they got a couple of dishes and they still got a very, very good core group of players. So why don't we let you kick it off Mr. Whitney? Well, I said when when Cobo took ended up signing with them that I, I don't know how much success he's going to have. It's way different now, man, this guy left what he the four years ago. Can we look that up quicker Nellie maybe, but he while you're looking up, I'll say. The game is not the same as when he was over here. And this is an incredible player who's done a lot. You see internationally, what he can do. His shod will always be a weapon. He's gonna sure he'll be on one of the, you know, one of the flanks on the power play will get his his one time or goals because he has a complete rocket. But in terms of creating off the rush and things like that, I don't know if he's fast and dynamic as he was naturally just because it's been been a long time since he played over here. And I think people are pencilled in for thirty goals, but I wouldn't be surprised at all. He doesn't reach that. And if he doesn't. I'm not gonna say they're in trouble, but this isn't a fast team. This is not a fast team at all. Go ahead, Mikey. He had last played in the NHL in twenty twelve twenty thirteen for the New Jersey Devils. So he spent the past five seasons playing in Rhode five seasons, bro in the cage shell. It's a lot of Russian gas. I mean, I was over over there for a year. It was like a is like dog years. He's basically been away for thirty five years because one year in Russia's seven dogs thirty five years ago he played in the NHL good luck. Mike and Mike concern echoes you Ryan. Cova Chuck is doubted and skilled as as he is. It was last when we last Rahm how much does he still have leapt in today's modern, any Joey speed rules? He's what would we save? Thirty five, thirty six when kings they really I wouldn't really say they went out other than him in really improve their roster all that much they. I mean, they didn't lose much. They didn't really bring much in. But when you didn't make the playoffs last year, you probably need to do a little bit more than coal, Chuck. I think you know, I wouldn't say the seizing his hinged on him. I if he's a superstar, like he was five years ago all level than, yeah, he could be the difference, but they're old. They're still kind of rolling out a lot of the same guys. They won those cups with having said, all that join quick. He's he's peaking in his career right now is a goaltender if he has, you know another a great season. It will keep them in competition Shirley, Shirley within shooting distance of a playoffs. But the tings don't scare me today, like the kings. Give me four years ago. No point. Right decor, groups, getting older. That's something we set a few times here. I still think that they have about two three years of gas up in a tank to be competitive and be one of the top teams in the league. I mean, anytime you got onset culpa tar down the middle followed by Jeff Carter, that's a fucking hardcore one to this car, Joe. And he came out of the gates like a bat out of hell. And then he when he get that injury killed their team. Right. I think I think a lot of the go ahead RA you're going to chime in their buddy. I just going to ask these cots men rocket. Yeah, he's a weapon and he's a ranch. I thought to ask prudently, they have as you snapshot, Jesus Christ God. Currently they have Adrian campy who's another bubble guy. If he has a breakout year that just gives them even more depth up the middle. And of course, I Nate Thompson fourth line center, which which he's back there, correct guys believe so. Yeah. What was which play? Nate Thompson, and I would say he's probably one of the best guys in the league faceoffs on the back end, they're solid. Once again, they're big, they heavy, they're heavy play, very good, structured hockey. They're always going to be competitive. So I would say that they're going to be they're going to be a playoff team here. Boys. Yeah, for me, I think they will be, but. I'm so pissed off that I picked him to beat Vegas in the first round and they got swept. So I don't even want to say they're going to get in screw. It would think buddy. Yeah. Like I said, man, I I don't think I should say. I don't think they approve of everything like what's set. It hinges on coal, Chuck so much man. If he's just mediocre then I think the season could be taught Pedo, but they should be interested. I mean, they still got Andrzej COPA tie. He's a joy to watch. He's what? Oh, he's only thirty years old. He's not that old. He's he's only thirty. He's only thirty dude. He had. I mean he's not a guy played out west. He probably had more of probably should've had a little bit more of like hot people talking about him for the hot last year, thirty five goals. Fifty seven points ninety two points in eighty two games. I mean that's a hell of a year. Last year he kind of gets lost in the shuffle. Man. I think people forget about him. You're on the Selke. Obviously, people know that you're talking to on co-pathetic. Correct, right. Yeah. But we didn't have much Aukin beast. You know who he is of the west. Or. Yeah, I would. I would put up a scoring. Maybe I was gonna say more of a barcus. Oh, or which he's an up and comer. They're very similar to heavy through the middle. Great skaters, they just play an unbelievable two hundred foot game. These guys are are a great point. Another Berge on just so reliable all over the place such an intelligent player. So we gotta move on all boys to probably I think the Duff favorites, the favorites, the San Jose, Sharks. What do you guys want me to start it off? Yeah, go right ahead him and we talked about on the other last week's podcast just because that's an a trade went down, but this is a wagon as far as regular season went last year at the beginning, Martin Jones struggled a little bit. I expect him to be dialed in. And then they got a, they got a solid backup in Dell and he he had to come in twenty nine times last year. That's a lot for a backup. He had a two point, six, four goals against average with a nine point one, four save percentage. Yup. Having fifteen wins and five losses. So pretty good record for him there. I mean, top four on the back end is fucking solid. And even they're five and six, the fence and with Dylan and brought a couple of big boys to help kill penalties and even big guys are still fairly mobile. Their top six are very impressive. Albeit to see how Vander Kane comes in. He had an unbelievable end of the season when he got traded, which probably led him to get in that big ticket with them. Just, you know, sometimes you don't see the most motivation from guys, you know, starting those big contracts, they got their payday, Joe Thornton. You know older now, so intelligent, but he is slowing down Cavazos key getting. Bit older, but I think they're still able to to get it done on the bottom. Six is is really where I have a lot of question marks and like the Zona coyotes where they have a lot of question Mark, these guys going to be, you know, very solid NHL players because they're just coming up from the minors that Myer says this guy. That's my. That's my biking guy. I started. Surely he's, he's one of my look, lookout this year type guys. What's a Swiss guy too? Yeah, he's a it was the ninth overall pick in two thousand fifteen. At to fifteen. Yeah. And. Twenty one goals last year, dude. I mean, he's a beast. He's a big guy, six, six feet as heavy though too hard to play against. And he's one of those players he kind of haven't thought of in the past, but that San Jose has done a good job of retooling on the fly without having very high picks. I mean ninth over. All right, that's that's pretty high. But a lot of their other guys, you see people making impacts that didn't have to be first round pick. So when you have a d. like they do in two superstars wanna call center burns. One of them's going to be on the ice all game. That's kind of how it's going to go. I mean, they'll be very few shifts when one of them isn't on the ice, and because of that, it'll be so easy getting out of their own zone that they're going to get these Fords, the puck in in positions to make plays and have years that that they really haven't had before. I mean, you know, notwithstanding Pevec ski could sure Thornton guys who've done it forever, but incredible team. I think they're going to do a lot of damage. I think the it's a tough building, the play. No, that it's, it's my pick to win the Pacific and are before you start going there. They got this anti swale Mela coming over from Finland, not don't know too much about him. He's a pencil in on as a third line center right now. I don't know what's going to happen camp always changes things. And just somebody's question marks like Sorenson. He had thirty two games during the regular season. He had a fucking awesome. Playoff ended up having four goals and assists in the in the ten games they played. But once again, he's not proven at the NHL level yet. So I'm interested to see what some of these guys bring another. A guy, I'm not sure goes Donskoy obviously he's fucking unbelievable. He's got some high level skill. Just a little inconsistent lit up the coyotes last year. I know that get fourteen goals eighteen. I don't know if he's able to jump into that top six guys because once another guy Kevin Lombok the ball because I said, I think maybe the Bank la- Bank good at your butchering good. Very, very good. But once again, small sample size, he had seventy seven games last year, eleven goals. Twenty nine assists. So a lot of a lot of the guys on on their bottom six, our little unproven as far as doing it for many games but should be interesting. Why do the giants give as weight off of a fifty million dollars their quarterback and throw the fucking ball foul areas. I was waiting all the fun bit. Oh, are you. Oh, are you? Are you Cowboys? We haven't actually mentioned any the gambling on jet, but it's I know you had said you were gonna take San Jose to win the division interesting of the two of the sites used one had the favourite to win the division out of plus one fifty five and the other side Hatem at a plus three fifty, which is I'm going to try to jump on that tomorrow. Once my credit from fucking this week's debacle. But if San Jose is going to win the division biz they're gonna need better performance from their goal. Tender's I know you said Aaron delegated decent yellows j. and he did good for backup, but my mighty Jones to five five's not too bad, but the nine fifteen, say percentage again, that's just not what you want. Number one goaltender have you want? I'm the least nine tool if not higher. So they're gonna compete for the division. You know he's gotta be better. I obviously I think they got to do one of the top three teams in division if not win it. This stack man up front to just talking about what's his face fucking. Pevez sqi eastern while he's thirty three years old man, I didn't think he was that old. I mean, he's still plays well, twenty two goals last year, low and control. He's having a hell of a career is off or pervo ski. But I mean, it's fucking out and Carlson is so huge, man. I mean it you can't see it changes that team. I'll just makes them that much. But unlike Whitsett they're gonna have facedly him what burns on the ice all all the time. You have to weapons like that on the back end, it's it's fucking tough to beat. I mean, Brent burns led the team in scorelines twelve goals. Fifty five assists sixty seven points in Carlson was on the team. He would have been, let's see thirds corn on a team. So I don't know if that's indicative of this score in depth not doing enough for the forwards or just that these guys are so fucking good. But yeah, the San Jose definitely gonna grab a playoffs, but whether they wrap up the division that's going to depend on Mont Jones, having a better yet boys on Vancouver to even have to talk about them. Vase, auditing Vegas yet. You got to all biz good job have a Vancouver though. Everyone I suck watch out. I don't know like how this kid didn't go higher in the draft. Two guys know who Elias Pederson is idea. Okay. Okay. You just fuck in wait to see this kid. He's going to be a superstar in the NHL incredible player all these hop right in and make an impact. I'm not. I'm not saying this year. I'm not saying right away. I'm saying in the future, this kid will be a superstar in the NHL. So I'm saying I was just a little confused by their offseason moves. I love Antoine Roussel and what he brings in. I mean, Jay, go, of course he's been doing it a while over in Washington. I, I just wasn't crazy about the amount of money in the term. I mean, I just I thought maybe it was a little bit unnecessary. Like we're other teams. Offering Jay beagle like to point to, let's say you ended up getting a three or four year deal at two point. Five. That's a lot of fucking money to be paying a fourth line center. Yeah, he, I think it was kind of the perfect storm. In terms of you have a great year and you win the Stanley Cup as your unrestricted, your whole team loves you. Your organization loves you. They know they can't pay you as much as you're going to get on the open market, but they're also happy to probably speak glowingly of you when people call and ask. So at somebody who I'm, I'm glad he got that money. I don't. I. I mean, the guys, he'll maybe a little overpaid, your unrestricted. You win the cop and you play the role. He did you. That's what's going to happen. But I've never heard a bad word about the guy. I just think that it's going to be a long year in Vancouver. I, you know, you think. Besser Besser right away is somebody that's fun to watch. But after that it just gets, I mean, guys blow Bohora VAT, like, you know, he's great great player just like to look at all those top centers that he's gonna be line match against and the Pacific. That's a tough task for him. I mean, let's hope this Elias Pederson comes on the scene faster than you thought with. Because after that, the drop off down the middle Braden suitor and Jay beagle I do like the addition of antwon resell for the simple fact that at the beginning of the year last year, they had door set in the lineup, ruffling feathers, and they were actually staying competitive the first fifteen twenty games. So I'm assuming that green wanted him to come over and play identical role in Antoine Rusalka out a little bit of secondary scoring as well. And also Sam gonyea my former teammate and Edmonton a good friend. He's there. He had a good year there last year. When I look at the. She. It's funny. I remember when Alexander Ed ler came into the NHL I thought he was going to. I thought he was going to be a Norris trophy winner. He had he had some moments in seasons where it was just incredible. I know you know, he's balanced him injuries here and there, but mentioned to see the type of year he has because there's moments when he's so dominant the way he skates kind of similar to ecm Larsen a little bit. Like back in the day, at least the way he skated his shots. Incredible. He hammers guys do when he wants. So that's somebody that could have a great year. Good Branson, great leader, good guy, teammates love playing with him will fight anyone. He someone that's that's important to that team. It's just you look at you look at their roster in. There's some very good players at the top end of the in the forwards, but the depth is is the biggest issue. And that's why I see them missing the playoffs. Again. I agree with you there with. I don't. I don't see them getting over the hump. I mean the fucking thirty two one win the division. That's a. That's a pretty large number to win a division Brock does at an outstanding rookie campaign twenty nine toxin just sixty two games played. You know, he's probably going to improve on that Boho of that's another kid who I like to watch peachy to get better every year, but you know, huge less. They lost the sedan twins. You know that's two two guys that I know they haven't been putting up the same numbers. They did you know ten twelve years ago, but they were still putting fifty sixty points, Europe providing, you know, a lot of leadership in the room shore and you know what they do on the ice. That's that's two huge holes that you really. Yeah, I tell you that I was at that game their last home game in Vancouver last year when the final salute? Yeah, but it was awesome, and then I forget which one of them they scored the OT winter. I still get them confused all twenty years later. They played unbelievable that gain. They were buzzing around and every time they were on the ice, the whole crowd would be on their feet, just cheer and stuff. It was. It was an emotional night. You don't need to see your team lose boys. Fuck when this a game like that with those guys retiring, it was nice to see him score the winner. See legend get send off and then obviously the other one assistant on it. Cost naturally also probably going to look at young American defensemen Quin us. We should hopefully see this. Honestly, camps just started up way. Didn't he stay in college? That's okay. I was just going to say on back to Michigan for the season. Okay. Camps literally just started this week. So I I'd mentally not up to date on who went back and who didn't so scratch that we don't have to restart. But yeah, beagle who sell the beagle signed and yet, like you said, with the teams love to pay that championship quality. We start here in Boston, like guys who left for more money they. And yet I think you see a lot of sports when guys when that she chip, there's a premium on them, guys want to kind of pay for that that that championship guy Calabro whatever level they're bringing with them. So it's gonna be interesting. What happens there? What about God debt Grenell? Is he looking to make the squad? This shares what's caught. It will definitely push for older. Okay. We'll be Baker winter, but the big thing for them, again, lodge view last year Jacob box from you play with him in San Antonio. Right. What's. Ago or golf with them all time. Yeah. Best story of all time if I told on here. But when he was sleeping on the boss, have I said, this story. Tell him to go again for the new for the new listeners for anyone who missed that persona. We took a bus from Oklahoma. Well, yeah, San Antonio, Oklahoma City, and you know the bus left after our game, say like, eleven. We get into Oklahoma City like six AM and guys just go right off the bus, which is a sleeper boss. So you know, you got your own little. How do you? How do you describe there's little like bunks on the boss that has like shades you can shut or whatever to everyone gets off the bus. You're, you're just woke up, walk upstairs, you go back to sleep. Well, you know, then you wake up at at noon and you have pre game meal or whatever. And we're down there. We're like, where's markie? I must be sleeping. Those need eat three-game meal. And then we get back down for the snack before the game, and we're like, oh, where's markie must be over at the rink. We gets the Rick. Where's markie? Finally, somebody gets touch them. This could savage was so tired so asleep. He stayed sleep on the bus when we got into Oklahoma City ever got off the bus. And next thing you know the bus driver by drives the bus twenty five minutes to the bus graveyard and mushroom woke up like four hours later, and he looked out the window and he was in a parking lot with seven thousand under buses. He's like, oh shit that he had to take his blanket you to get off the bus. He took this blanket. He chucked it over the board wire fence that doesn't allow junk boxes and scumbags Trump into the post graveyard. See the chose blanket over the barbed wire crawl over the barbed wire fence, and he like waited for an Uber barely made the game. It's I'm home my God. Like you didn't get attacked by fucking Doberman behind heartlessly. I didn't know you guys had a game that day. I just thought he fell asleep. And then in the morning he woke up, I love him. Well, he's a handsome, Allah oxo anyways, he needs to be a little better than his. I nine one two, two, seven one last Jeff. If the connects are gonna make the playoffs, which they're not fucking. So, yeah, move on last. She is. Call, you never know. I feel like the biggest Golden Knights put me on the map last year as a hockey personality. It was all in the wrong way, but I still get on the map, no pubs bat. Any pub was the saying, kind of like Dallas put Jae versity is good publicity, Kennedy, JFK, put Dallas on the map. Who was it that wasn't song. That one out residency publicity is good. Mostly riot. I got any publicity's just through. They got wet your boy paulie walnuts paulie walnuts who's promised to come on the Dave retires. All he won't come on before. I don't. I don't know if he won't, but he won't be nearly as cool as when he retires and comes on boys their their top six, very, very good. Looking that max, Patrick deal, helping them out. Alex talk. They got him penciled in second line. Right winger. He came on the scene. That's a tough loss for the Minnesota wild to. I believe they put it. They just gave them gave him to Vegas in order to protect somebody else. So thank you very much. You know, couple, their bottom six is is a little suspect that no secto had a big playoff. So maybe he's ready to elevate his game and boys as far as the back end. I don't know. I'm looking at this team. I think a lot of things still have to go. Right? Like they did last year in order for them to make the playoffs. Really? Yeah, I just was Schmidt be going down. Their back end doesn't stand out a lot to me. I believe Shaef the doors still doesn't have a deal. So right now they got two young two young defensemen who will be starting the season there at imagine that they get something done before the season starts. But you know, I like call a. Miller played with them. They got Nick Holden who who signed there as well. But I don't know guys. I just I feel like a lot of things went right for them in this tough Pacific Division. I think that they might even be the second worst team in the desert this year. So much. By no biases zero live, they, they got Marsha. So they got Smith data Carlson, they got patchy already, they got paulie walnuts, destiny. This team is going to be in the playoffs. Again, I was more on on Dom. You're smart, I'm stupid. You're not. I'm uglier handsome. I know I've heard it all this team's good man. I will say though I actually, in terms of when I tell everyone that we don't know exactly what we're talking about. I had no idea shape. Theodore never contract right now at shocking to me. I think it's a smart move by him. He's got some leverage here. I'm pretty sure he doesn't signed yet. It doesn't have much leverage. Hear me out though. Schmidt goes down for the first twenty games even a little bit more. Leverett helped. Yeah, that that's what what imagine maybe something would be done by now, but when did Schmidt news came? He was quite putting stuff in Schmidt's, workout, shake. Breaking breaking. Finale send it out, send the rumors out Grenell. I forgot to tell you before I got a greed picture means Ediburgh throw that up on the Instagram he's over. He's like, he's just teach me lessons on the golf course. Vegas is sick, or are they gonna flurry in net. Imagine if now that I'm saying they're good, they're gonna stink. The fuck. I just think the atmosphere in the arena guys love playing there. It's tough. It's tough to go in there and win, and I, I just think it will continue. I don't. I don't necessarily think go to the Cup final or have the regular season like they did, but I do think there are playoff team in in that won't change in. They love plan for Galant. It's a good team is tough to play against in. It's going to be another fun ride for Vegas and already before your time in the reason why they don't make playoffs. I just think that the central is so strong that they're going to have a couple of wildcard teams. But if either way in the west, it's gonna be a dogfight. I mean, I think you could even do they might even gotten better. I mean, yeah, they did lose the real deal. James deal. They lost Peron who didn't play a ton to Todd, didn't really play much in the snail coming to be scratched by most of the Cup, but they brought a traded for end sign max patch. You already obviously thirty goals, consistent dirty goal scorer and then they brought Paul staff need to. I, I know he's thirty two, but I mean we saw how I mean chip man. I wish we've seen that kid in the playoffs for the last several years. He was a gamer in the playoffs wits. I know you said you weren't surprised by, but he was tremendous Pau Stassen in the playoffs for Winnipeg washed you. He was absolutely tremendous. I think the fact that there hadn't him in patch, you're ready losing, you know, Neil. Those other two, I think you could even say they're better man. I don't think you're gonna have really much of a drop off mock Andre Fleury. I think he needed the change of scenery. We saw the he's capable of doing this. We started Pittsburgh. I think it was just what he needed. It kind of lit a fire under his ass. I don't see him falling off at all in his fires, the the crowd. I don't think that's a first year thing, man, I think this is what it's going to be. I think Vegas is just such a unique place that they're going to be doing. These wacky shows every night, the pre-game stuff, the going to be into what I think just that's going to be the atmosphere. I'm like when he came to the garden in the eighties, you, you know, the crowd was on top of the pros are gonna bury on the corner. Just it's like the arena is going to have its own personnel, Ian. I don't see that going away. I think they're going to contend for the division as well, which to go to the odds one site. Adam plus two eighty the how the had them plus two fifty. So they're almost a co favorite with San Jose for the division. I can see why. I think they'll be one of the top two in the division. Again, couple other mentions boys. They got a carpenter who came over from San Jose, who's a solid player would I know you like them? You talked about during playoffs, I remember. Yeah. Yep. And then and then a little insurance policy with the Oscar Lindberg. I don't know if he's going to be pencilled in at the start of the year, but. There yet the American Hockey League affiliate, Chicago, which usually doesn't mind stack up with players. So boys listening to you guys, aren't you kind of convinced you to maybe change my mind a little bit? I actually think that they're going to sneak into one of those later spots. I think at San Jose Vegas, Calgary is my three Pacific going playoffs. What's what's interesting is just to go back Vegas last year. They had five different colors. They they used. They started last year. I mean, my God, a fight only started forty six games which you know low. I oughta, you know, Malcolm sue ban get in there. Max Maxime lightly. Gosse legacy Oscar dance, getting a few. And then a kid Dylan Ferguson. They called him up. I think, from juniors for a couple of games. So you know, it's unusual for a team that have that much success in the regular season have rely on five different netminders. Well, that wraps up the Pacific Division going over the the additions subtractions what we think's going to happen. So now we're going to send it to two young. Superstars, or I guess right now superstar Hanif is not there yet. He couldn't be. He's a man rocket though Hannifin and Jack Eichel our guys before we get to these interviews. I just wanted to take a second to talk to you about my blue. Sometimes it's hard to find vape that satisfying in simple inconvenient blue who introduced vaping to the world is now introducing my blue. My blue gives you all the satisfaction with none of the hassle. He just click and go with my blues, easy to use one, click liquid pods. You can switch between flavors and seconds, range of flavors to choose from and much more. 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I was out the apartment actually during the draft when we go down and you know, I thought, yeah, I've awesome. Someone was gonna happen to some talk on my agent and you know what the new owner coming in and he's going to be making some some changes. So I kind of feeling someone's going to happen just because the money reasons and stuff like that, but nothing on the draft. So I was like, oh, whatever. Maybe happen later in the summer and Mexico movie theater. Actually, my brother and sister and got quick buzz. My agent for vibrated. The movies are April billionaires. So what you're going to messaging climbing call me. It's important when I was all right. I want all the time. He was like, yeah, like I think you're getting traded calorie any minute. I had no idea calories in the mix. All they're going to attack it. Thank you. Well, I think you've gotta be excited right away. They'll Canada Haughey Carolina's eight thousand people the game something. So you've got to be every night. It's going to be packed non Pomeranz. That's some sick. I mean, calories a Utah town. I know John and Ohka chop real well. And when Hong with me over there and he's a great player. Good deal. Yeah, you did. You did. He's a really good player too. I think he's super unrated. I think you know if they put them with with the right players, you know, he's, he's gonna rip it up. So that's the kind of transformed a Canadian city to be fun to play because they got a, I got such a good group of guys there where I mean not saying calories a beautiful place being playing candidates, coal, you think like being like warm, weather, golfing, how he's never that bad. I don't think they got the Chinook winds ever heard of him. They keep it warm. I heard. Okay. Nice. Kind of making that up. Other guy here Jack Eichel not a big deal superstar. How are you? Thanks for coming on. Talk me about this year talking about this summer. What's going on some big changes in how good is this man? Do you know? I just watched the same highlights. Everyone else has he gets me hard. He does pretty good filth filled. So him snapping up to you? Yeah, we won the lottery. I was selling. Pompa we ones. I mean, he's pretty pretty ridiculous. Toughest piece to get now is a number one team. A high price teams aren't getting and he's like a really, really good dude, which is cool. I went out and went to dinner with them after he got drafted before developing camp, and he's really good guy like super, super chill. He's like no ego to Sweden on the world. He's, he's almost like kind of like a little bit naive where he doesn't even understand how big with the Elliot's at all. You know, like people are just at dare. He doesn't even understand that yet, and it's cool. He even asked to split the Bill with me. You know, like I thought that was pretty, it's a class. I asked him to go to dinner and then join us split it. And I was like. Tiny. Thought it was. I thought it was pretty cool of us as I thought I wouldn't have. I would have. Well, so like I mean, your air miles to. Begun extra points on that card that we can maybe transfer. But no, I mean him get the fact you guys got him and then the big trade with O'Reilly who I know your boys with. But all the pieces you got back. Yeah, we got a lot for them and people ask me like, you know what? You thought of it. It kind of sucks because he was like one of my best buddies and we were really tight. And there's kind of like rumors out there that me and him had like problems, rumors like that around Witcher's Kana ridiculous. And people were like running with it at the time and and it's kind of crazy. 'cause we're actually really tight. And he was like one of my best buddies, and I just want to kind of wanted to put those to rest, be worse room, results guys crushing is. Later on my true by the way you ever think when those rumors are out that you guys just like make video funnier to come out and say this bullshit. We're doing it all the time because he's, he scored a goal last year and I went over to like give them Knox, and he kind of breeze me as a joke, and then the buffalo media ran with it and they were like their allies. Reaching there were like, look at this like O'Reilly Eichel like they're having problems in me and him are like dine laugh. And so we started thinking like every time, one of scores like breezy other guy. Tire five. So we were kind of like we were messing around with it. Obviously, going to ever go to new level. We're going to go toe-to-toe during again do it. I'll let you hit me first and people love it, though they'll be running with it and then you actually hate the guy. Well, either way, like my question that way from the NHL with these two Massachusetts, born and bred. Thanks a lot. Not a big deal. You guys were the number one guys. Like I heard about you. You guys are like twelve years old, the same age, right couple months. Okay. But did you plan the same team growing up? No. So he I'm ninety six at the ninety six thousand. He's early ninety. All all right. Not the same teams in why we played cross paths. The Decian mala. Yeah. So when you go out there for junior or sophomore year. I was a junior pioneer, pioneer area. People don't even know how good Ann Arbor is. Do they? It's unreal place to live. I love that place and you live in there in high school, how your billets mine, right. Great. Yeah, mine are great. Kick. Shara. Do it was the biggest bunch of bullshit. Like my body back home, Pat full. You know, he's a Boston cop. He was there and he had this great family so they were going to be done taking kids. They had a kid who was like eleven or twelve, and then a younger daughter and I was out there one night. I crashed my car and I was like, all my father's going to kill me. So I made up a story that I got hit in the parking lot and he's like my dad knew right away as like, okay, well, there sure there's cameras in the parking lot. So we're going to cause a lie. I actually buried it to a basketball hoop back and I would drive it. So he's like, go tell your family can lied about the God damn car accident egos. My car. I'll tell the billet family that and they're like upset. I was like my little. Fast forward fast forward thanksgiving morning, wake up and Green Bay gamblers still have a team that just disgusting thanksgiving morning. Mike eaves calls me and seven and all your stuff packed at the fucking Arbor ice cube, I square whatever the rank as you kicked out of the house. I'm like, what did I do? I didn't do a book report from pioneer high thing and the teacher was like, where's your report? So I told my billet mama. I need the movie. You gotta go rent me the movement. She's like, why should my teacher said? I didn't understand the book. The movie will help me, but I was just panicking. She called the teacher found out that the she didn't ask me to actually watch the movie and then they packed up all my stuff. She threw my toothpaste in with my sweaters into drop the box up. I slept in my car one pioneer. Hi. Seventeen years old. Dude. I was like, walk this. Homeless legit homeless scrub from Massachusetts. You know people park there for the tailgates event. Scituate special. I was trying to find internet on WI fi password from the school buckled Craxton. No, I wasn't drinking that. I just I was so worse. Dr ever backed up berry, never write them a letter. You're all built or phone call saying, fuck you. Look at all. I did, and I used to like send the kid like emails like, and then try to stay in touch them. They gas me from him. But yeah, those as my Bill, it was the book they had to read catcher in the rye. I dunno. I was like zero movie. I can rent the movie. Never the same book shows. Yes, arguing Aisling whole accident happened with me now. I was I was living on his own planet by the way, call it away. We're talking about calling. I'm leaving like completely launch rink. Tell that story quick before you go. No, that's really quick. Oh. Oh. What was it? We were. Combine it was worth the Columbine. It was become trapped jersey on and onstage on stage auto, a Senator auto media's all around them. They ask them to describe how functions and he like, yeah, you know, describe yourselves. Now he already can't speak. Oh game. He can't speak if it was somebody else in the room. He's he, he called them something. Yeah. I like to refer to myself as a bit of a rat ring and his wife. I'm sorry, say incorrect, ratty. Coach. On my rat rank, the cameras on apple us like like he knew right away. Himself a routing through like everyone so called meringue. Oh, like what was what we about. Speaking of wrecks. We gotta talk about this three on three where they've made up on going on here is going into. Site. Sorry. Sorry. Yes. So go ahead. Yes. So I lived the long I live with no ability. I'm in call with his mom, his license at the time, but he has Caro there. So he wanted me to drive them, pick them up every morning. So I, I had his car, so I was I left early. I was roundly for schools, and we fourth interro being late and I took a wrong turn in Arbor like where we live, it was kind of boonies is like pretty dark in wrong, left down a street and call the sack. Why round the call this tribe directly, the someone's Parkar on the inside and get over to more Odal Whyte's entire car. I go off my neighbor's door and I call him and his mom drive. His car is a pancake. It is completely land rather Jeep. They use about the cry, so so you could pull up with either you have to call Jeep, hey, what what's up? I'm like, I just totaled the car. Wait. So why are you going to fast congressman. Congressman. Or swollen. They have strict rules can't be late at the. All about the around. They get some army in them. They're like, you can't be late. Crash, your buddies, Jeep Wrangler, of course, what he has a car doesn't have his licence. All these coming in here today I sent him like, what are we going to say? I'm like, why he? How are you? Oh, this guy's that dumb. If you just like you the rat rank. Okay. So going into the three on three way. Should we let me ask a couple of hockey questions because hockey fans like to hear hockey questions, we think hockey fans like here three on three with pigeons from Bentley offense. Bentley more than they like hearing about like their season. These guys are playing at the tyngsborough rank and three on threes. Birds took Sperry Tewksbury doing brisket Tewksbury the same thing in my mind. So their team is you to Evan Rodriguez Daniel Regan h l rookie of the year and macrobiotic Bruins defenseman you guys are losing games in this league. Now we haven't lost bent loss, but we, we had a one goal game our first week hiking. The Whitney brothers from BC and they're like, guys are hiring. Twitter. Relative code search seems everyone's blocked shots. Everyone's committed mass around. We kind of mess around for a little, but then it's funny bear down like we're losing a few weeks ago with eight minutes left, and then we Connolly brought your we might as well play a little bit here, like where you score one point, you're actually fired up a little bit of a mom. No, not that game winner with like point, seven seconds left. That was accelerated the game winning. I drove straight home. Berry devastated that the other team was like we had, we had. Show up for two. We just couldn't seal the deal. They fired towards. So who's the tender in that always our first week, we don't know who the kiss guy you guys skin. It stood on absolutely soon as head and like usually rotate the goals around like we leave them out to dry like three on os and shit, and he's, he makes good. Saves makes unbelievable saves. So we're like, all right, your, whether the summer. It's like, yes, I bring him a big water every week. He's that's all he brings me to can Poland springs cost me eighty nine cents IKEA, water guy. What's match you got, obviously or American. How long do you think before it takes for Americans? Basically takeover Canadians in the NHL all? I mean, the percentage. I mean, it's been getting lower lower every year for twenty years now. I mean, it seems like I really, but yeah, it's been. It's been dipping consistently. I mean, if you think maybe ten years, you know it's going to be even or is it going to take longer than that or what. I mean, numbers was, I don't know. But I mean, think about like skill allies. There's always going to be those top Canadian players. I mean, think about connecting the Canadians could put two or three Olympic teams in if NHL went and and probably be pretty second team could win. Exactly. So, I mean, I think like you think about it like that, and there's a lot of really, really high end Canadians in our league. But I think obviously the US has done a really good job and probably pretty good amount of the top and US guys have come from the national team, and I think that pretty good feeder what they're doing with that. So to touch on a national team, do a lot of these kids have money growing up who end up going or. No, it's well, the reason I ask that is because they've been doing that's your angle is a Canadian. I would to rich. No, no. I was going to say, you know, same thing with Canadians in order to get to the level at the top in Canada, you have to have a stick handling coach. Now you have to have all these coaches ice time, slow expensive equipment, plane teams, social. So already on a national scale, you're eliminating a lot of people who just can't simply afford to put their kids to hockey. The reason why skin Scandinavians are getting better and better and better is because they, it's, it's open everyone and they passed down equipment and and it gives everyone. I would say a level playing field, but if more kids are able to stay in hockey, the older they get while there might have been a kid who was good enough to make the NFL, but his parents can afford to put them in hockey NHL. So that's why it's like, I mean, I, it's going to continue to grow and Scandinavia because of the way they're doing it over there and the Swedish people in the best people, and they're the best people and their athletic. And like I said, I was talking to a couple of the finishes who disguise and they passed their equipment down when they're done using it. They don't just re salad or whatever. United seventy goals when I was dead. But, but but there's people who don't Anthony. Stewart was a guy. He didn't have a ton of money growing up. So a lot of the kids on the teams, parents would ship and help pay for his season and his ice time. And and and so that's a great question. All right. And the, I would say the percentage of NHL is probably not a lot of poor kids that make it to the Djelic is you do need some cabbage, the play, not to say it's all rich, but I think a great story is, you know, blend metropolit- he played Toronto. I from LeBron he's guy grew up in the projects in Toronto like he's rather new jail for murder. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, he's about his hard scrabble and blue closet and get he had. He had shit growing up, you know, father's way, chill. I think the same can be said for the other side though, for somebody who who doesn't really have a whole lot, obviously their parents work hard to to make sure that they have the opportunities to play. And I think that they, they take it, you know, I mean, they appreciate it more. They don't take for granted and maybe there. Our values are a little bit different. I'm not saying, you know, because obviously I friends that are on both sides of the spectrum. I mean, I didn't grow up like superwealthy. My parents did as much as they could for me from the minute. I started playing hockey and I think that you know now it's nice to be able to help them a little bit. But yeah, like you said, think about poverty throughout the US doling. Some kids can't. Basketball. Doc is probably the most expensive sport. Yeah, equipment cheap. But actually switching gears now I want I ask you something. Now how familiar with Cowdery I know you've probably visit a couple of times during the regular seasons, you know much about the town, the history, or did you like jet feet? Nah, I don't have a place that I'm looking now, but I don't really know much about the city. I know it's. Populations like pretty similar to Boston. I know it's cold there, but I don't know too much about the city to be honest with you. The topic of Johnny Ben. They love it, love plan. So it's like three hours from Edmonton, but hen light years. They're not like I think they get from the same areas. Calgary's go a little more. It's a lot more aesthetically, please unions, sustained necks you? I was ready to snap. He'd I was with with Jani good dro- anywhere wearing for shoes this year at the Sam pages where Gucci's. So. I don't know if I told the story of the previous podcast, but he the him and smitty and a couple other guys had to ride horses in the parade for the Calgary stampede leading on Thursday. And he wore like shorts like regular like doll shorts, and then Gucci boots. He showed one of his buddies showed me a picture of him on this horse in these Gucci, loafers and east Faulk Indus, having a gale time. Kid is unbelievable. Like, how does he get away with that? How does he everything he does? I just love watching hockey. Live off the ice. I wish we lived in Boston. Then he'd be out all with them on this one would be tough to answer, but with what went on Carolina. Like I just been here in stuff about this owner just coming in changing things up, ruffling feathers. And yeah, not not an ideal situation. It was tough. You know, I think it's tough because they have so many guys is like all the players such beauties, and I think you know a big positive for them, Brennan, more coach and everything. Rod, he's gonna do an awesome job there. What was he doing when you use an assistant co bash? But I think he's just going to be a players coach. And I think the guy's obviously is a really hard working guy, but I think he's going to do a great job and it is. It's a weird situation, you know, because the owner came in and I mean, he's obviously really smart guy, but I think he he is real hands on. He kind of wants run the whole ship. He's he's almost like the GM in a way he's run the Ted, never. So it's a different situation there. It's pretty strange, but I hope I hope Roddy and I hope it guys do is Brindamour still a beast in the way room. It's sick immersing. You should see this work. He'll put like a forty pound weight vest on going the gym and this like rip Paul ops and. He'll work like three times a day. He's the most shredded guys. That gives me Zayed's team depressed about the fact that a guy like that much older than me is so much better shape. And like I look try being me on your urine and worse. This look at RA, holy, fuck puke. Shit. Well, you've moved on from Calgary. I want to get back to more like when you guys were younger, like what was doing? We're about Eichel just like the next fucking Gretzky a- like when you're like ten year, like this kid, was it already at ten. No. It was weird because I'm glad we're really thirteen twelve thirteen fourteen. He was actually playing for the junior Bruins. He's junior. So we were all in king's time with the social kings game Sunday him. Yeah, he's Saturday. He was my junior, so I don't really seem hole and he was he was all year older. So I don't really seem a whole lot until always starting festival camps. And then I went to the US program with them. But yeah, man, he was nasty. Ako just like that hard for you like, no, you're the best player you're like, or you just always thinking I'm going to. I'm getting better. I'm getting better what people are saying? Well, I mean. It was more like a comparison on. It was more of the comparison like around here. Right? But then you think about you go to tournament and you see a kid from Chicago or Toronto or Montreal, and there's you feel like there's always someone better than you. So you kind of think of what I always thought about it like that and. You know, they're always somebody better. They're always still is. And so I think that was kind of my motivation is just trying work like, and it was good because there are so many guys around here that were so good like him and all the other guys that we grew up with Whitey like it was a good. There was really good age group that I think we pushed each other because we were competitively always wanted to be better. And I think it ended up working out. You think. Yeah, I don't know what you saw what you're signed a summer worked out going back to Carolina? No. What what do you think the like pressing issues off of that franchise to succeed on there? Is it just like a lack of interest in the area? Just seems like they're trying to get over the hump. I mean, what would you think they'll ever make? I mean, oh, they wanna Cup it. Oh, six, but it seemed like they let the air out after that. That's tough MAB and it's one of those those markets where unless like they're winning and they're nasty, they're going to have a real hard time getting fans. And this when I was there three years. And I mean, we probably sold out once or twice a whole season. That's that's so like, it's just it's just awesome. You mean see play like the Rangers. Right. I mean their whole, it's all ring a bell. The logical from the north moved down to North Carolina. So it's that's one Straubing as a skin, like a solid fan base or consistent people showing up. That's why it's going to be a bit different from meeting Calgary, just because it's me sold out every night. So it's. So easy to get up to play. They're gonna be awesome. Well, it's all there is, you know, it's like that's like the the town really revolves around that team. I don't know if you've answered these questions too much. What's the number change. Jesus Robert on us. I love it all call Ronald hall. Now he's actually opening up a school, but it's like a hockey. Making notebooks. I'm going on for almost with my kid. I get older Rippin been shot and a nine year old goal, eight. Video of him. But when milling at his. Attention. He doesn't want the attention. Let me win and ninety headphones onto now. The biggest on, but I appreciate everything. He does believable person. It's incredible. Also that person. I have to like them. I like him. I just don't like his antics on the court, the flop in and just like he's every interview. He's got earphones in to me. It's like he's so nice in some areas where to me that's disrespectful to the person asking questions like anytime a media person came up to me, I'd giving up most respect because they're the people that fucking well, they grow there. You the. Hey, just because if I was on asking questions, I wouldn't want fucking somewhat ear buds, and I'd feel like a pigeon Eichel cubs on when you talk is going to put. This guy. Sure. I always wanted to get nine back. I thought it was a good opportunity to obviously we've had a couple of years in buffalo, so I figured maybe switch it up and I were at BU I work before be a little bit here. I just thought it was a good opportunity to grab it. I'd rather me change and get it. Then somebody else come along and grab it. And then I kind of regret not having it. So. Or by the Milwaukee. Does that happen in the NHL in when you go in with the Siga traded to a team or or you want a number that a guy has he played in the NHL, do I know? But I've never heard cases of it happen where a guy says, hey, man, I want that number and then the guy that there's been a few cases of guys going in places and go ahead. I can't think of my head, but a couple of guys have changed their numbers for an older guy coming in. Well, we talked about a few weeks back Seibu Salani wanted really Qleyle's number. Right. And we talk about the half them Randy Kyle flip out on even asking a number. Yeah, yeah. He offered of money for it, but in the MLB it's kind of like a known tradition. If you come in and you have seniority, the younger guys will just give you the number and then that older guys got to get him to watch like nice flight. Nothing Raleigh? Yeah. Would it give Goto you went to twenty-five from tomorrow. Any one? For what reason though? It was always Twenty-one that somebody else committed. They retiring twenty one who wears Twenty-one in Philly. I don't think anyone in Toronto change. Toronto. Toronto has like show many numbers. Somebody. What do I pack do? What number. Them much y'all. One question I had for ISIS, how excited review for the team, this young team coming up because when I was younger, I grew up forty minutes from buffalo and that's when they were making. Their runs is a fucking funds. Sports. They go fucking ape. There is a, yeah, that's the thing. It's like last year. The bills made it to the playoffs in the city. Almost blew up. There were there were going nuts over the fact that they made the playoffs. It was really cool and then just for us, it's it's good that the excitement's kind of getting back and it's good that we got razzmatazz and, and you know, things are looking positive again, obviously, you want that excitement going into your season. So it's just another opportunity and like you said, like, they really appreciate us. And for us not being successful last few years, you still get treated so well there which. Already. Amazing. Yeah, it's like the, they're, they're like, thanks so much for everything you do and you kind of thinking yourself fewer in some other markets, people wouldn't even talk to you, you know. So. Yeah, and good luck. Appreciate it. Heidi. How do you find the balance between bills mafia and being a member of patriots nation? Like how's that work? It's a little weird obviously because I'm like a die hard patriots fan and. I dunno, like I just I, if the patriots play the bills, I'm I'm rooting for the pats, but silently do it. And I root for the bills and every other game I love the bills. Obviously, like I had a conversation owner actually owns both teams and he was like, I really, oh, he's actually really appreciate the fact that you didn't switch over chose your loyalty to your. Yeah, I think people would hit you for doing that. Wait a minute. You from Boston switch over. I'm a big wall at the two thousand four World Series almost got a scrap. Chuck far. The items he had, he was all geared up and socks. Gaga's. He moved cinemas but he stayed a SOX fan and they're like, you know, they're, they're about to get swept, and they're like, fuck you. Check back the bus. He liked tried to go out and shoot based on the hat and shit Waltham. Sorry amount. The insane Louis one time when I got cut next lot, I was flying home and might be more or top. He's just a manning a monster to like he'll just, you could just l. his hand gives you high fiber. Students just a beast out there. Young, I replaced like the junior Bruins and he was one of the coaches as Matthew, assuming like ten years old. And I remember like he was was towards the end of his career, and then he retired in the next summer. We came back in the following tournament and he'll really looked like an absolute unit through event like three car accidents while the airbag utterly, but wait is Chuck your guys h, he's my. Through at the national team with us to you guys won the world then for sure are we are on the same world fan talking. Yeah, yeah. Team as it was Matthews Shaw on, she is Whitey since NC map, which which is nice because it's a young. You know, this next generation guys kind of hockey nerds different. But on all those guys, you just mentioned eight hockey nerds, fucking Renske slept through three of these interviews. I think he's what is it? Three times gonna come on every time. These fucking soya's sleep interviews at noon. This kid must. You must do our efforts to ease a handsome, fellow, big guy. He's a play or is he going to be a really good player that guy's got sick minutes? Yeah, does what called you to come on Michigan. Okay. So he went and joined the Lake Erie monsters, and we played them in the conference finals they wanted. I think they want it man. I'm like, who the fuck this guy never played before? Because he just joined team. He was playing like twenty five minutes in playoffs. He's like calmed down the ice and like I'm for checking them and giving me head fakes. You told your other eighteen. What the fuck joke about that. But no, he's got alligator bloodies big strong. He's got a good stick. He's fucking sick. Offense only narrating is like, was he eighteen came in the American League. He was the best defense in the playoffs. And I'm like, this is going to be the next Jay. Bouwmeester is gonna play twenty years in the National Hockey. Maybe even a little more offense skill though. So while he's gonna make Bank, he's probably gonna make one hundred sheets. And joined. One of the country comes, I play. I have to Walston golf club and this year the waitress these two wages. Like who's that guy you're talking about, like knowing like, oh my God, he plays hockey. I'm like, Christ skids. Got something going on here. I'd say Pani soup, but then I'm pretty sure a feminist would write. Another article would say that if it was a couple years, did you did you know that the terrorists got a phone call about two weeks ago and some some lady was writing an article about the fact eight years ago. I had these paintings shoot soup shirts from sauce hockey and wanted to write an article about a t shirt that was made eight fucking years ago. So I gave him out that girls like judo excess and I'm like, listen, there's nothing wrong with seeing a girls gotta lady Boehner over me. That's that's not sexist. That's just call it how it is. Because that whole term, it's like, when you know you come see on the ice and you know, no helmet warm ups and all the way to get excited Pani soup. With that? Not not one bit dude. We've run up on any any big stuff the summer vacations. Nothing is working. Adams v. On there. All right. He's a few days and let's track again. All right. Now again, are you. I love golf. You have the buck. I love golf, crazy, soul, fun. Yeah, just missile frustrating that I started playing years ago. So, I mean, it's kind of an easy transition from hockey artists for the world. Would you say hundred percent? There's nothing clo- and it's like the most simple. It's sitting there in front of you, but as we're watching Tiger Woods during this interview with four under thank God this point come out like the summer to maybe he'll win the Firestone Bridgestone invitational onto, you know, trips Coachella. No. Yeah. I mean, I was out in California a little early in the summer, and then I went, I went to a few. I went, I golf down and queue off a little nice. Yeah, it's nice down there. Was a Nashville weekend when over I've been talk it. So just here and they're getting away getting everyday now, this is August. I were recording. Yeah, four days a week. Thank you. That was my fourth state of the week, and I got two more so six this week and he skates voice tonight. Buffalo Sabres to try to keep your hands off yourself. Yeah, he's skating twice a day. Early guys getting ninety points this year, something we have anything else for these. These legends Saugus second, just in case anyway, we'll talk a second. Every day Friday. So I don't sometimes know while we every day is Friday, Jackie. Wait till you retirement. You're going to want Rupel Amari I have to my life rate. You'll watch Rupel the life. I want to ask Jack, what's going on with your bike, buddy, z, z gonna sign sooner. Yeah, I talked to him the other day. I mean, I don't know if. Reinhard? Yeah, rhino bike buddy. Yeah, he'll sign. I mean, they'll they'll figure it out. He's a, he's a really, really good player. We had an unbelievable second out believable. Yeah, unbelievable. I mean, his is only is only getting better too, and it was a little bit weird because in the beginning of the year, he kinda tried to out at center for a bit and he hadn't played center a few years. So. You know he was kind of trying to just to that. I think he struggled a little bit plane in the middle and we live together. I think he was a little frustrated playing in the middle. I thought he thought that he played better on the wing, and then you know soon as he started playing on the wing, I thought, I mean, he had a, I think he was a point per game last fifty games of the year. I mean, he played really well. So really somewhere like that? Yeah. Forty five and forty five. The old man played in the NF numbers. Yeah. I mean, he's a you talk Mr. Reiner and he's like a. Anatomy, smart hockey guy. I, I walked up all of us. Boys played like my first question was like, so like you play. Nine hundred more points than you admits played it. You could tell he went from kind of like a half smile till I go this fucking loser. I'm here watching this shitty movie made with my kid in it, and he's fucking ask me if I played. They want to go to this movie and this kids chirp Amee. Before we go, Noah gotta sleeve tattoo, it makes you even hotter. What would you would you get. As a sleeve. Right. That's okay. A half, the are you, are you gonna finish that. That just gets you like an RS. Oh, already show them your tramps. Then. Help Boston. Is that right there every kid I know has that on their quad with hockey sticks. Great. Rhineland Irishman on the heavy. Hockey sticks. You might have both every Boston kit has six Shamron name, usually miss other. You don't want, you know, keep the Endo store. Oh, yes. Tell this. So he this. I'm sure listeners know this, but these guys don't so him and Chris can Billy Ryan. I don't know if you all this is their best friends at Cushing academy. They're all they're going to get tattoos and Chris Bork goes, I, you know, bore with like they were getting like a, not a Celtic cross, something like that and keeps like I'll get the same thing and starts, then Billy Ryan. He's more stop. He's like, shut the fuck up. Dude. He was putting bore he had, yo-you are in Keith, theon those back. So because he just said the same thing so keep has this like tribal symbol through Bork and then like Yandell above it. It's disgusting. Terrible. Did he not cover it up? You like you did? They got a line through the first Reuters actually gotten since. Then I play with the money had that off a one, but I think he covered it up which you know job. Oh my God. Kiss? No, I didn't polio. Oh jurors. Harry quad. Tori crew. But these, I mean, that's. Eighty nine. Oh, oh my God. So worst one I ever seal dude. By the way Penn State. You didn't have any state and a did Lert setups limit statement fucking tiger or to Ryan mcdonagh him. Brian zone would Ryan as a Tasmanian devil with a football slowly. That one who does that looks like a demented action family, what it is, Eric nation do Nile come on this Ray guy. He's the worst I've ever seen above honest, help us respect hashing like, no, I don't know that three words, but it's worth like that just right above his horn-like. Unlike ni- would watt doggies, like, I know, I know. So we'll have Mon and discuss that terrible. Balls at one point I wanted to tat and matching my body with hats, dude, you gotta be ripped and tan with pats if I had TAT's no offense. All right. It would be a Scottish thing. I kinda regret my scarecrow on my arm. No has a jackal lantern that's like a stale, Jack lantern Vermont seventeen days after Halloween. I just get so Tanna summer basis. Let's all blah. That over a long period time? No, I got this. Probably back about ten years ago, would you do when you got that done or you watch your show or something, or just kick it on your home? Weeds rocket. I did it actually, uh, Steve. Ink NASA. Yeah. Yeah. Affection. He wants like off my attack to a Moslem goes to him. He's in Connecticut. It's an hour from now, let's go to the best guy. Yeah, so I'll reach ultimately. Yeah, I come down. He is the biggest beauty ever. He's any fly soy actually story. I wasn't even supposed to get this God. I was supposed to. We had a consultation and it's like top. What ideas and stuff and like say audible look at a car and then you leave with. He's like, actually the guy was supposed to do like back those. Let's just do it now and I wasn't ready to tattoo at all. And this is like four or five hours outside one. So I was like, all right. He just he just turned on the data medal blast and social, ripping, man. I was like, always listened to like terrorists you. The rest of it. What is what's the significance like, oh, actually, let's Saint Sebastien patients, athletes, dude, that's a prep school around here. That's where you went. What a sickle, all boys school. That's a fair tiger though where I went. So I don't know. Yup, it's a lie. It's a line. What's the difference? I mean, who wants the same like on the family? Aren't they. All right. We're going to end. Oh, wow, you you're gonna. Have you Monaghan whether handsome guys are going to have on that team in Calgary? All sweet. Sweet dreams. He's hottest shit shit who also and Donald is not exactly like the hottest. I'm picking it a captain, like assistant captain and stuff. We coaching Calgary. Carolina married is no wish you both went together. Are you boys with them niceness. Well, thank you very much guys onto another season. We'll see you next summer. Thank you very much to Jack Eichel. No Hannifin knows over in China right now. It should be fun. Jack, I goes getting ready in buffalo, but I think that the way we did, it's pretty interesting today. Boys we went over the Pacific Division for everyone who had homeless inning. Let us know if you like it the way we did it like that we can keep it more concise. We're not really exactly sure, but going over each each team figured we figured that's the best way to do it. So give us some feedback in terms of how you want us to kind of go over the the other three divisions in the league, and that's going to become an in the next three episodes. So. That was a fun time with on Jack Noah. Yeah, it was. Those guys is. What was one of my buddies said, oh, is is is no Hannifin quiet. And I, I said, I kind of phony was, but he's not. He was. It was great to hang out with good dude. Now that I've gotten to know him a lot of fun. But those guys growing up and I know there are one year apart, but just the fact that they're, they're both this this good and grew up playing against each other. It's pretty cool. Yeah, it was fun shooting the show and I'm going, what would you say pal? I was going to say both to very, very rich kids. Now. Yeah, I know. Carry Grenell your contract Grenell. I had a couple of partial Loria. It's like a day for them. Grenell adaptation for you after all the information about you drop and all that money on that tab, and then you talking about it on here. Obviously, your buddies probably listening to the show than anyone send you any van MOS after hearing the interview. Now. Nah, I've gotten some bodies have bought me beers at the bar and all like, give me the benefit of the doubt. Now what's that mean? So if I say I'm not paying this tab, like I'm not by my beers in art. Okay. Down for a world. Manning's a bomb on Cornell. You should have a punch card for each one of them and had their names on it. I like I would say what eight beers each, but I'll tell you I get. I've gotten a lot of DM from from listeners and stuff just like random people who are like, fuck your friend. If you ever wanna beer, you're ever in Edmonton a by a beer you're ever in Toronto pair of shoes. Yeah, Anna pair, although so also my Instagram follows shoutout I, I love the replies, but I'm still like figuring out the whole way to reply to each one. I wish I could do it online because I live on what do you mean? You're still figuring out how to reply? Well, because some replies, they go to one thing. It seems like an another replies, like once you reply to them, it goes to like another pile. I wish I story if you do a story or it's going to go to your DM and just do a picture, and someone writes in the picture, it'll be all under the comments. Yeah, no, I how to reply on the comments. But when when people just reply to other shit, basically. Ignoring you. I'm just I wish I could sit in the laptop and door, but I can't figure out how to fuck can reply on the laptop either, and I'm not an old fuddy duddy early like a compay wit. We're gonna start. I wanna start a an Instagram for Ryan Whitney, and we'll have great, Allie, run it and just post it all. Yeah, we talked about this. I don't know, do it has done it? Why are you private way you don't want? Do you want strangers, senior shit? You don't want them hitting on your lady or something. People are just just tap him. My old lady, I'm walking into this big ass house and there's some chiklis listener. Just I'm here and I'm like, what? The fuck happened. I should've never got public on. They saw my wife is you have to. There's a lot of weirdos out. They're busy and you got to be a little protective. I was always pretty proud. I dunno. I know. I think you weirdos I sometimes I'll get some people. I don't mind replying everyone. I got guys like the enemy and sometimes I'll read it might just put like a heart because all right, like six paragraphs. And then I get the message back, like all I know you think I'm a new year and you and I'm like, man, I get fucking hundreds of these things. Can I actually have a socialite like I do to to podcasts a week now I got to work with the coyotes. I'm trying to fuck and do work on the back end for the boys, and I gotta worry about fucking answer in the customer service for fitting chocolates, speak. Well, actually, I got a real good message a DM, whatever. Which did you get the picture? I sent to lack group text the member, the last episode you talked about Austin's unreal, unbelievable, like mood high sauce, pass against the Bruins. Yeah. It was to Hoffman. Exactly. So someone dug up the clip in it was a constant was passing Mike Kaufman. The guy whose whose wife while wife allegedly slandered his wife. So just kind of weird coincidence that you mentioned that clip and it happened to be the guy got traded as to wedding Friday night while my wife's friend, you look great. By the way I saw your news and how what did I look? I, I got so wrecked. Some kid came up to me at the bar and he's like, hey, loves pin chiklis and we're shooting the shit. Thanks. He's like, can I get you to video saying not a big deal to this? Someone out there has a video of Mejias loaded cross eyed, just slurring NADA. Big. Farm outage. It's like telling us what to do like take a picture with this. Do that. We don't mind I on, oh, I was Bockel. We, my wife and I got a hotel down the Cape. I woke up. I know, clue where I was. She's like, you told the same story. You told the story about your bus ride in the US HR those twenty hours log. You told it for the fifteenth time. I'm so sick and that story for fuck sakes why the whit drank add a. It's amazing how much that strangers that listen to the podcast think we're cool and all the people hanging out with like your fucking loser. I've heard. Know they come up and you know, you meet the person that likes listening to chick goods, and then they probably think I'm going to be funny. And then after five minutes, I just haven't said anything. I'm just on my phone. This kid socks. All right. Eli manning, nothing you fucking go catch, insecure, peace out. See about.

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Bruins Should Sign Ilya Kovalchuk & Other Moves Bruins Must Make | Conor Ryan | Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky

Bruins Beat

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Bruins Should Sign Ilya Kovalchuk & Other Moves Bruins Must Make | Conor Ryan | Bruins Beat w/ Evan Marinofsky

"This is October 27th. And this is the Bruins beat on clns media. And welcome back to the Bruins beat on Ceylon s media. My name is Evan marinacci. Hope you guys are having a great safe and healthy week. Obviously, it's almost the end of October. It's almost November and I won't say I will not say what we would typically be doing what we typically might be talking about. I won't say it. I will not say it. I just won't say it not going to suck but as you guys know obviously right now as things are currently constructed. There's not a lot of Bruins news to cover. It's not a lot of things to talk about. So I had on Conor Ryan this week of Boston Sports journal and we judge just who are The Bruins could still potentially get out there and there's actually not some there's some pretty good names are they Taylor Hall or they Alex pietrangelo or they even Torey Krug know they are not but they're still helpful in could still make a difference. So we discussed that in this episode and we also got into some goofy stuff. There's also a thing that we talked about with NHL twenty one that we might try to get people involved in if we can so obviously stay keep your ears perked up for that wage. You like to plan a child twenty one like we do before we get into the episode The Wait is finally over football is back. You might not be at a game this year, but you can still be in on the action at that online and let us go the extra mile to make sure you bring it on everything imaginable to season from game spreads and totals to team player and Coach & Crab Spot in line and gives you more options to wager than any place online. You can get in on their season-opening bonuses today and start off of wagering on win a championship Futures today head to bed online today and take advantage of all the great sign up bonus has been online your online Sportsbook expert. So without further Ado, here's my conversation with Conor Ryan off and we're here with Conor Ryan Conor. What is up but much man, what's going on with you? I'm not much try to survive during these covid-19 you were saying before we started recording that there's a spike in Massachusetts here in in the base state is a little bit of a spike in cases dead. Um and great. Yeah not great. Not the not the best thing in the world. They shut down hockey recently. They shut down ranks at least which is unfortunate to see you don't want you don't want that to happen often wants that to happen the NHL sort of keeps moving the goalposts back. You can tell January 1st might not be the date know and was even worse and Steve bucknor about this in the app like today or or Sunday or Monday, whatever it was when he wrote it, you know, all we have right now boss has the Patriots nobody else, you know, the snow off Red Sox. No Bruins. Nope. And so all we have in Boston is the Patriots and that's sucks. Not only shouldn't be a pretty arduous couple of months for multiple reasons, but especially in terms of the sports landscape cuz not like we're also in a great stretch here with the off season where it's going to be a lot of riveting news every we're going to I think we're going to be scratching for the bottom of the barrel next couple of weeks. Yeah dead. Oh, yes. We are going to be just as you said the barrel or going to be scraping the bottom of that thing trying to find content cuz it's funny. We've been kind of spoiled the past month has been a ton of free agency trades the draft and now it's like, oh we're back to the off-season. We're back to nothing and typically, you know would be in the beginning of the season right here, but wage Soviet, that's we don't we don't have that right now, which is unfortunate because we could use some distractions right now. We could really really use some distractions right now. But God there is still stuff to cover there is Bruins things to talk about from the perspective of what they should do. Cuz again, they have a little over six million in cap. They still have to re-sign Jake debrusk off and they still have a little bit of wiggle room there still some things they could do and the moves I think we'll talk about today are ones that they can absolutely make With the cap space they have I don't think these would be issues. I don't think this constrain them cap wise especially in this market. So I think it was either on this or poke the bear that I mentioned in a specific name that I am so in for and what's funny is I was very against this when this name first came up and this man went to a Canadian team. I'm really doing a great job of not saying who this person is about to say. Yeah, and you were also very against this person. We were all like, oh my God this guy get a lot of this guy in my life, but Ilya Kovalchuk a veteran-minimum deal for 725 K maybe eight hundred something K. I don't think you're going over a million with a Leah classic ilian not going over a million with him. What do you think of this? Cuz I'm starting to grow on me. Yeah. I mean, I think you have to be realistic at this point of what the Bruins are able to do. So, I mean if we look at kind of the order of what things do this offseason obviously number one is shake the bras but soon as you find out what you're going to do is Daniel Char and after that it's like, all right, I think probably the number one priority is probably upgrading your blue line. I don't really know how you're going to do that right like and once you're doing a trade or something like that has anyone left on the fridge and Market that you know, you're going to sign and be like, all right, that's we're replacing to recruit with that guy and not feel like oh oh shit. This is my like, we'll see how this goes. Right? It's not like a guy who's going to be walked in to a top-four spot. So I think when you look at, you know, a guy like Kovalchuk and you know, you can look at the way the this forward course kind of setup and if you want to pay off, Me that once Martian and pasta market healthy, which you have to wait a little bit for that. Yeah, you could pitch to me that that group where you add a guy like Kasha who should be healthy and have a full training and a guy like Craig Smith that this phone call or be much better next year of all works out. But still if you have a chance to add a guy like Kovalchuk for a minimum a league minimum deal, which box is free. You know, it's pretty realistic this given how this Market is. I mean, you've had multiple guys taking much less in terms of term or average annual value already if this you know Fraser might get stretches into Thursday November in these guys still don't have anywhere to sign like you're going to see a lot of these guys who maybe could have made 1 and 1/2 to 2 and 1/2 million are taking you know, really really long tails just to get on a team this year. And so I think for the Bruins if you know, obviously the guy people are focusing on now is Mike Hoffman, which yeah, it's my coffin, you know, his contract drops down towards a one-year job. Ellen he's willing to sign for 3 million or something. We get to that low then yeah, of course, but I still think you still have teams like Nashville with need scoring team the Columbus and eat squash. You have a good amount of cap room left to play with it. They could probably hand out, you know five million or so. I think they're probably just waiting to the price to drop too. So I think if you're looking for the Bruins it just finding another piece or so to get to that Nick's up front doesn't really hurt you to you know, explore a guy like Kovalchuk and if he fits and it's great you paying you're you know, you're getting any guy who can get you Thirty Something points, maybe around them for a cheap deal like that. And if it doesn't work out then screw it is that you're not really spending that much money on the guy. So I think it's a pretty prudent move for the Bruins for throughout this offseason. They're just looking at a guy like him or through these other guys that are willing to sign, you know, one year deals. Just pretty much you know, a lot of these friends just looking for like a life raft at this point, right? Like this might get is so ass-backwards that wage. I just trying to find a place to land to bump the value back up. And you know, if it's a guy like Kovalchuk ooh again, as you said, I don't think we were particularly high on him especially after his time in LA but home show that he could play well, you know in a higher up roll with Canadians, but then even with Washington during the regular season at least using more of a third line role and looked pretty good they're so if he's available cheap doesn't really hurt yet to add a Galaxy into the mix, right? It doesn't and also you mean, you know Marshawn a possible I could probably missing the start of the Season especially pastrnak home. And if you can have more guys to potentially put with a guy like Patrice Bergeron, I mean Kovalchuk makes sense up there for a temporary time and then have them move around, you know, maybe you just create you second line right winger, maybe, you know, maybe all your comments works for the answer of time. Maybe he threw him on the 3rd line or or something along those that sort. So to me I don't see that the the like the the real downside to Kovalchuk because yep. Not pay you wouldn't be paying him a lot. It's like you're signing this guy to a four-year, you know, four million dollar deal for a million per your it would be league minimum for no more than probably a year. So you know off again, as you said they want life rafts and you mentioned my coffin and we both said this last week they get to the appoint the offseason where there's you know, these guys have nothing they need a team to play for it's time to sign off somewhere at least for a year. So as we know this really isn't the off season four guys outside of the top four free agents getting long-term deals. I mean, yeah, I've had a pietrangelo and Torey Krug there hasn't been a yeah super long deals. I can get Jacob markstrom a little bit but even like crazy you could make the a green right that I think people thought he was going to get hate and then he gets what he got to like even though it's going to ask. Yeah. I mean to fully look at him to thank you is probably a 6 million year guy maybe in a regular market. So I mean, it's funny you look back at like those signs of ruins made with coil and Wagner and those guys off. Do you like doing backflips like a sign it back when they did cuz it just this whole Market, you know for guys who are honestly are deserving of what the market was before now have to take these concessions where you know fair or not. It's just kind of the way the market is right now. It's so so weird, by the way, I don't know if you saw those Torey Krug like videos of him touring the st. Louis Blues practice facility very weird holding the 47 Jersey as a blue and like it's just so weird. Yeah what I just still can't process it. I'm still like what is going on? Yeah. What do you mean you're on the blues? It's like I used to be a red wing or like a a blue jacket or a bruin but a blue. I mean, it's just like who like, I mean you saw an episode. Yes. Go black mayor. Go back to like 29 to go back off the spring of 2019. Just not that long ago, really not that long ago, and we're you know, we're covering the Cup Final we're having a great time not a care in the world health-related wage. Imagine if someone you know said hey, you're go through Global pandemic and Tori cruise going to be a Saint Louis blue and twenty twenty and would be like the fuck you talking about Thursday. Oh like I would probably more be like the gold pendant. What the fuck are you talking about? But I think Torey Krug and that would also like go absolutely ape shitt in terms of like and not even counting the fact like it's funny. It's not funny. But you look back in just how much should but like between that and like Kobe Bryant died in January. And I know Tom Brady left off like traded what the hell? Yeah, so but yeah, I mean literally look back OS year and like everyone obviously looks at the him lighting up Rob Thomas, which also that video of them were uniting on a video was like this just doesn't feel right. No, it doesn't like that hit was huge and it's like if Chara was like after he took oh Pacioretty the next year like just some how long On the team sorry buddy, and like it's like with like the Montreal police department and like all them are shaken hands. It's like it's no we're not. Sorry. Sorry. I woke up your spine. Yeah. No, we're not. I I just I I wonder if the Bruins had one that cup. I wonder if they do all this the same stuff. I wonder if first thing the universe would be different. I think the Bruins won the cops know covid-19. Can we all agree on that? Very dark emotion, but I see a reasoning. Yeah exactly. It makes all the sense in the world, but I think that you know people I think if the Box on the cop, I don't think that hit on Robert Thomas would be so funny to st. Louis. I think it would be like, oh, yeah, you know, that'd be like if if you know me land Lugi too much are the Canucks. Oh, yeah after in 2012 and they were like joking around about how you know, it's like hey Alex Burrows takes my favorite holiday is like it wouldn't make a lot of sense. But so that is that we can log Off track there and talking about Krugman covid-19. About it this week in bsj on defense is really only one that's obvious. And it's Mackenzie weegar. It's not like it's this like, you know franchise altering defenseman Mackenzie weegar. By the way was the guy Nola Charlie like killed like like ripped apart like in a fight Iraq their teammates now and like spitting Chiclets to that joke with them. You should see that where they were like massive changes your phone number but Mackenzie weegar is an interesting one. He wouldn't cost a lot. He's due for an upgrade from the one point six million. He's making now but I mean, I would that be worth the two million cap hit that he might bring or 1.8 million. I mean we get you'd have to trade for right cuz he's an RSA right or I think oh, I think Florida wants to trade him. So unless you want to offer him. So anyway, you'd get a guy like we are so it would I mean you hear all the reports saying that we are is in trade talks because Florida doesn't want to sign them to what his new deal is cuz it gives making 1.6. So we turn on a guy who I think is a like a kind of a Bargain Bin kind of guy. I mean, I think Probably if he was getting a raise, I probably say it's around the same kind of pay scale. You looking at a guy like Grizzly got you know, maybe 3 and 1/2 for a million, but I think that's a guy who I mean, I think you trade some assets up front floor because I think we our shores of your your top for my lovely girls game play with ekblad for most of that year. And listen Florida is not a good offensive team having surgery Broski's you're goalie isn't going to help you out. But still that's not a very structured roster to say the least and we are still was one of the best kind of just walk negating scoring chances of five-on-five and he's not the biggest guy but he's still willing to drop the gloves as he saw with him, you know fighting fighting a jar and that's kind of just his style of play. So I mean, I think that we even you know, take out signing guys like Kovalchuk or and he's other forwards if you trade for a guy like we are I think that solves your biggest problem and that you've got Top four said whether it's regardless what the pay is our right McEvoy we are whose twenty-six of course like in Kalo that's a pretty good top-floor to work with especially if they all kind of play to their strengths. So that'd be like think like my thoughts on Focus if with the Bruins we doing is, you know, you know trading I don't know if the cost be like the Brusque or whether it's you know, maybe Buick and some other assets. But again, if you make a move like that and you fit in both him into brushed under the cap with the money you trade away to you know, whether it's fuelcore few other guys, maybe then you can get some more forward depth by then signing a guy like Kovalchuk for Thursday, 8:50 or 7:25 or something like that. So there's a whole bunch of different ways. Like we look at this offseason. It's so tough to map it out because not a lot to happening right now. I think everyone just kind of odd scene in the office where they're all finger pointing guns at each other. It's like no one's making a move. No one's no one wants to be I think people are realizing now that it was really frigging dumb to like just drop money off. The gate because of how much like stuff how many how much people were pretty much like Montreal sounding Josh Anderson to that contract probably like shit, like what negative doing? Yeah. We could I mean like I like Josh Anderson's game and Thursday is the thirty goal scorer. He was when he was healthy. It's still good deal, I guess but still like you have this Market changed or even like the Bruins signing Kevin Miller to you know, 1.252 million + Tap bonuses, like wait a couple of days see how these guys are signing like, it's just the way this Market is that it's it's it's brutal, but all the there were teams clamouring at you know. Gates of warrior for Kevin Miller. Yeah. So I mean, I think that's just like the biggest takeaway think is just have a lot of these teams kind of grinding to a halt here and waiting for the kind of the other shoe to drop off cuz seems like the teams are no hurry. They're waiting to see who bites first and some of these deals and you know it the players really have much of a leveraged right now, right? It's not like you've got a job. Ten teams at a flush with cash right now. And even the teams that have a some money set aside. They still get a handle their own RFA. So like Detroit's got a crap ton of money, but they also have to re-sign mantha and a few young guys like it's not like there's like teams that are just have been on the prowl waiting and plus you've got teams like Tampa that's in cat pal who has some contracts out like this whole thing seems like it's going to be a complete shitshow as we get closer and closer and 14 like the Bruins who yes, once you've signed the Brusque it remains to be seen how much cap flexibility you're going to have but they could be in an advantageous fog in with 2 and 1/2 3 million just in terms of what some of these contracts might drop down to in another month or so, it's funny the Bjork for we got Buick and assets thing for which I think is very intriguing because it feels like you know, they're going to have a good amount of and we both said this they're gonna have a good amount of you know, Fringe top-six forward. You've York. Yeah. Yep. Woman now you have potentially senyshyn you have you know, you have cashing of Craig Smith. You have Nick receipt maybe stood Nika like you've got a whole can I say sneaker? You maybe there's so many friggin guys a ton. Yeah. It's like you have to you have to you know, pick and choose who you want to keep you can't use all of it. Cuz if they want to Kovalchuk that's another one so you can't have all of these guys just there when you could potentially use a guy like pure who has some trade value and maybe a draft pick or maybe another Prospect to get a guy like we are I mean the RFA stuff kind of complicated but potentially do something like that that you could do when I think it would make sense for you to do because you have all of those top six your top nine forwards and you just you know, it wouldn't be the first time left shot of Boston Fringe top-six Winger went to the Florida Panthers Frank vatrano, one of them Riley Smith another dog. But I do think that training for week. I wouldn't be the worst thing in the world and you have you have some cap space if you can get him into breast done. And as you said maybe sign a colchuck am not the worst thing in the world what's funny is they have all the depth up front. Usually the Bruins have a good amount of depth in back this year feels like it's going to be a lot up front two other names up front. By the way, the Mikhail sergachev thing I think is interesting. I have a franchise mode at the Blackhawks and then occasionally one and I almost offer sheeted circuit to him cuz he was on the border forever and not get you up like three first-round picks. I was like no. Yeah, excellent was getting out of that. So that's no idea. No idea. By the way. I traded Jonathan Taves and I got I've traded actually just an aside I traded so this was NHL 21 franchise mode. This is a wild ETA is I traded Taves to the Bruins who are like 504 and down. I was they didn't go over the cap like somehow the the Caps fit that they must traded people away for like a mid first-round pick and some like other pieces and I had to give up some other stuff. That was the box that and then with the Blackhawks the next year. We're supposed to just be complete sellers. We're giving everything up right and the next year. I simulated the whole second season last night and somehow we finished Presidents Trophy winners nice how that happened and at the trade deadline the LA Kings offered me to go ask for Eric Staal and I was like, huh? Okay, so ask is my goalie heading into the postseason and I'm going to get Rask a cup of the starter put with the Blackhawks. So you guys can thank me later you go that's going to happen. That's my that's my hockey with with no hockey on with sports at a very minimum. I guess franchise mode. I mean maybe in a few weeks. We're talking franchise mode. Yeah might be what we have to do the state of the off-season right now, but I wonder is very viable dog. And do you do you play NHL or no? I do I have any channel 20. So what's funny is I feel like I don't know if there's a way to do this cuz it's making people too excited. But if I don't know if I M connected mode or if there's a way to like cuz I know a mad and you can do like G U Can Do frndship notes with other people. There's nothing of that in NHL. We should do a thing with listeners and do like a franchise modes and get them all together and we could have a bunch of different ones in a league and I think that would actually be kind of fun fun way to pass the time. So maybe that's something we we look into bondage we think about and I would do it the way you can I play a ton of Xbox. That's just me. So there's other people out there as well. There's Anthony duclair. There's Corey Perry declares a little tough. Yeah. I'm not create his own Zone, but he does have a lot of offensive upside and I love watching him play. Yeah actually to his game. I feel like he's going to be a kind of like a mini can of Taylor Hall where I think he could be dead. I'll read this Market correctly, which is what happens when you represent yourself in this in your negotiations taking a deal with Ottawa, but I feel like now he's going to be a guy that you know, listen the guy who had a breakout year year and half honest with auto he's good after he went there in February 2019. I feel like he's going to be a guy that is going to try to recoup his value and go to a shity team that's going with a bunch of minutes cuz I don't know if declares your he's not going to be you know, your top top line forward for the entire season or even if he's with crazier or one of those guys. You don't really kind of nowhere outfit since I feel like he's going to go to a team where he can get, you know, sixteen Seventeen eighteen minutes a night and try to get another 20 25 goals season and try again next year cuz it seems like he took seriously misread that market especially for a guy who had a great breakout year is awesome to see but doesn't really have a proven track record yet that you want to folk over a lot of money, especially in the way the the kind of Revenue age. You're kind of hit right now know it's funny now Auto Has Talent like Ottawa has way more time than I had before and they could put him around what around him home and he kind of lost the worst time. Yeah, cuz I don't know. I mean the market stinks and Ottawa isn't going to be good. But you know data. Now there's minutes there. So there's minutes and there's opportunity for power play time and all that stuff. So yeah, I declare I don't think I don't think of rejection go for him. Corey Perry is an interesting one. I don't know. I mean you're going to have a guy like with like in Richie that if you're going to try him out like the Bruins have whipped many times now on just getting this like bigger bottle middle six guy, and I don't know how korte Pari, you know moves the needle for you and granted like he raised his talk a little bit cuz it wasn't that good during the regular season and he played pretty well during the playoffs still you already listen, like the Bruins have already error in a hole with that behind in trade and like you got at this point. I think you probably stick with Richie for now to see what you have before you move on home. So I don't think it makes much sense to get a galley can but I think Perry still going to be a guy that whether it's you know Tampa or one of these other teens or just any of those Contender teams. He's probably go to one of those guys on a very very cheap deal. Yeah. That's why I see Perry doing as well. I don't see him. I mean, you're right the Bruins are terrible getting that big meal sitting so long I don't really know what that value would sort of bring and they have Nicorette used to solve all their offenses problem. Of course. Yeah. Well as the thing is like I know you were looking at guys who own network taking a flyer in for Jeep. Like when I was writing the article about you know, potential targets one guy that stood out to me was Josh Leyva over in Vancouver who solid you know, middle six guy, that's actually a good five on five numbers for Vancouver last year, but then gets hurt back in December of 2019. You know, he I think he broke his knee cap off of a hit from the cold and sweet miss the whole rest of the season wage, but was willing to sign a one-year deal for really cheap. I like that's like who the Bruins it should look at if it's a guy who has good five and five numbers this from risk cuz he's come back from an injury like that but seems like he's healthy now. That's the guy you take a flyer on then like like 20 minutes for I publish the article you sign with Calgary. So I like how to take them off the board. But like what is it with these guys in the Northwest who just rotate t e Don't know. Maybe they're just yeah, they don't like to fly very fast. I had no idea but also calibration. We're just taking everyone so that seems so perplexing cuz like Calgary's honestly should just blow it up. Like I don't see that quarter. Like I'm just like the like the Atlanta Hawks and early 2000s were like they were good, but they were never going to like go fast or it's like what you just delaying the inevitable right now like you got guys who are now like 29-32 like you're not you're not going that far with the way the core is so but I mean touring yeah the boring. Yeah, so but like that's a guy like who the brunch look at home. You can take a flyer on if it works out and he's Thirty Point guide and it's great and you pay him. You know, I think he signs a cow juice for I think 8:50. You know, it's nothing like those guys Flames oglu Cheech 5.25 million through 2023 ice. Oh my God. I'm just looking at the Joakim Nordstrom Rack is why we gotta keep an eye on the Flames cuz joking Norfolk on the Flames. I mean we not going to watch the Flames is Eric Barron. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, it's not good. Well, that's like the state of Georgia flood the market you now it's trying to a halt is that people are like with the broom. Just gotta you know, people are saying like the get-out-of-jail-free card. So just trade down more for a team like, you know, fourteen, you know, tag or Calgary which like clearly they clearly need defensive help, right, but the way that's marketed everyone's so scared shiftless of taking on cap. They're not doing anything like this. Like people are like hammering the brains know you can you can Malcolm for non making kind of the the splashing movies, but also like it takes two to tango and like I'm not trying to make excuses, but you know, you spend a lot of effort into trying to get out all of our dog Asin and then you're dealing with a team in Arizona who just had ridiculous demands there that one budget and things keep getting worse in Arizona. And yeah, they are a great franchise there in Arizona frigging embarrassing but then you know, you've can't hit on that and then at that point, you're like, all right, you're not getting fair market value for any of these guys. You can't, you know, if it's a normal year you'd be able to dump off jean-maurice