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BGN Radio #35: Stay or Go?

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BGN Radio #35: Stay or Go?

"Ladies and gentlemen. Can I please have your attention? I've just been handed in urgent and horrifying news story. All of you. Listen. Hello fleet green nation and welcome back to BGN radio. This is episode number thirty five on John Stolnis from bleeding green nation dot com. You can follow me on Twitter at John Stolnis. Got a big show coming up here for you. We got some breaking eagles news as were recording this year on Thursday night. We'll tell you all about a member of the team of valued member of the team who was lost last year who will be here in two thousand nineteen. We'll tell you how who we're talking about. Also get in get into some eagles free agents. Stay or go some news in the NFC east with the Cowboys. And of course with Super Bowl fifty two coming up on Sunday. We will preview that game for you coming up here in just a second. But joining me as he does every Thursday night for BG radio is the man behind bleeding green nation dot com may he reign forever. Brandon league out and follow him on Twitter at Brandon Gallen. Beal g it's Super Bowl week, buddy. And I know you know, the eagles aren't playing in the Super Bowl. It just doesn't feel the same this year doesn't feel the same. But I have. Some news in not a lot of people are talking about this. It hasn't been reported enough. I guess maybe I'm somewhat to blame here for not writing about it on bleeding, renascent dot com. This year Super Bowl doesn't matter. In fact, none of the Super Bowl matter except for last year last year, the two thousand eighteen Super Bowl were both fifty two where he goes defeated. The New England Patriots was actually the only Super Bowl that mattered. I mean, again, not a lot of people are talking about this. They don't know. But it's true. You just have to take my word for it. Well, that's why the new BG and memories podcast that I put out on Thursday was about Super Bowl fifty two. And I was trying to think of the next thing to do, and you know, it's Super Bowl week. So I kind of wanted to have a Super Bowl theme. But you know, who wants to listen to a podcast about the super bowl's eagles lost. I mean, that's that's no fun. So you know, why not just relive the only Super Bowl that's ever mattered a Super Bowl fifty two. Couldn't agree. More buddy. So check out the BG and memories podcast on the bleeding green Asian podcast feed? And also. Kissed and soul caps. Good stuff up there. The Scotia show that was that came out this week taking a look at Brady and Jared Goff in the offense for the Super Bowl was excellent as well. So make sure that you are subscribing to bleeding green nations podcast feed and subscribing rating reviewing all that stuff on apple podcasts. All right Beal, gee, I mentioned at the top that we have some news. That's breaking. And that news is Rodney McLeod who the eagles miss desperately last year. When he went out with an injury has agreed to rework his contract that will keep him in Philadelphia through next year and for a team with some cap space issues. Beal, gee, this is big news on two fronts one. They get to keep a quality player on the roster for next year and two they get some much needed cap help. Yeah. We don't know the exact details yet in terms of the cap relief. Maybe that will come up by the time. You are listening to this podcast. But it seems like it should be somewhat significant. I mean, he was set to have a nine point nine million dollar cap. Number in two thousand nineteen also he was said to be under contract for twenty twenty. I don't know if he isn't anymore. Like, I don't think we know that definitively either the the phrasing in the announcement of the us put out is that he is now, you know, signs of the team are going to be with the team through to nineteen. So I'm assuming maybe that final year of his deal hunting lopped off. I don't know. I don't know that exactly. But in the short term for now, what we do know is that this is a good thing for the host to be amping. Rodney McLeod is a good player. He's not you know, he's not quite a Pro Bowl player all pro kinda level player. But he's good. I would say, you know, he's an above average starter for sure eat someone you want to have back there. And he's important. You just ama- ended up there. Like when eagles lost Rodney McLeod in two thousand eighteen all the sudden Corey Graham is you're starting safety. And that's just not good enough. That's not ideal. And then obviously eagles are putting on Matt expect there at certain points. So to have writing. Cloud back is great. Of course, he has to get healthy because he suffered that SEO slash M C O, and I don't think people realize that by the way or picked up on that. So the time it was only reported as an MC L injury. But there's actually an ACL there involved too. So I don't know exactly when he's going to be fully healthy. Hopefully, it'll be sooner than later. He did get hurt in too late September in the two thousand eighteen season. So we will see about that. But having him back and certainly seemingly at a lower number cap. Figure is great. So you're savings some caps as you bring Rodney McLeod back. Now, you have Malcolm Jenkins and Ryan MacLeod as you're starting safeties when they're healthy cell defying that third safety knows Corey Graham is free agent. It'll probably just retire the they shouldn't bring him back anyway Salau to find that guy. Maybe it's trae Sullivan, maybe vaunting medics take some snaps. Their addition the plane corner, that's one of the things that I guess I'm thinking about a lot coming out of this MacLeod restructure is kinda gives a little bit of clarity. I think it makes it more likely. That Maddox is going to be playing corner in two thousand nineteen which is something interesting kinda think about there. But honestly, I mean, they have a whole offseason to figure that out like there, you know, don't need to figure that out exactly right now they can tinker with that offseason for now. How does coming back? He's coming back at a number that will help save the cast base. So it's all very good news. And this probably isn't the last guy that's going to agree to restructure their deal a little bit. I think I've seen different places that TIMMY Jernigan could be a guy who restructures Bill a little bit. And there's a couple other guys who could could rework their deal to give the eagles a little bit more flexibility because they do have they are it is tight against the cap, and they're going to need some of that flexibility. If they want to add any free agents from the outside, and of course, you gotta pay the draft picks that you signed that you that you pick up as well. So obviously, Howie Roseman great at this, though, L G. I mean, this this is where he makes his money, isn't it? This point the way we've seen how he worked the cap for years. Now, why are you even worried as a fan lane? You weren't like, whoa. Could you possibly be concerned about he always finds a way to make it work out? Now, I guess you could say, you know, he's never had to pay a franchise quarterback than that's certainly fair point the goals on the horizon, potentially happen as it could happen by the time. You listen to this podcast. It can happen any time. Now as soon as the two thousand has as its actually soon as December ended is when Carson Wentz officially became eligible. So he's eligible now for that contract extension. We don't know for sure when it's coming. It was gonna come this year later, but it can at any point really. So that's that's you know, what the reality is in the future of this team. So I guess, you know, when you consider that a little more complicated than it's ever been for Howie Roseman for sure, but you just have some level faith, you know, he's gonna he's gonna figure it out. He's going to make this work. They can always restructure guys. They can always ask people to take. Pay cuts. They can always make trades in roster cuts. They're gonna find a way to make it work. So I wouldn't worry about that so much. No, absolutely. This is just what Howie Roseman does this. He's a magician when it comes when it comes to the cap, so but this is the first domino to fall in that regard. And so it'll be great to have Roddy McLeod on the team in two thousand nineteen brings a little bit more certainty to the secondary for two thousand nineteen. Let's also talk about we we heard some news this week. And not exactly sure how strong this news is how strong the sourcing is on this news talking about Nick foles and what the eagles could potentially do with him here during the off season. And according to Denver radio, host cease. Oh lammi. He's reporting that the eagles are likely to just let Nick foles walk free and clear into free agency without any kind of franchise, tag or any kind of trade scenario. He says on one oh four point three the fan in Denver earlier this week that they thought that they might that. The thought is that they might just go ahead and tag him and. Try to trade him anyway. But from from what this guy cease, a lamb he was told that the don't have the salary cap spaced do that because and because of that you're going to see Nick foles free and clear now, obviously they gave himself a little bit more room here. But you know, I guess first of all we just kind of have to consider the source here. This is not coming from anyone closely connected to the eagles organization something from somebody who's in a city where Nick foles could potentially land as free agent or as part of a trade. The Denver Broncos could certainly look to upgrade at quarterback and look at Nick foles as a possibility to do that. But if in order for me to really embrace this kind of a rumor Beal G out of liked to have heard it come from you or from one of the other eagles beat writers who follow this team closely on a day by day basis. But what do you make this report? Jon, I hate these kind of reports I hate them so much and it's no disrespect to see. So I'm not saying he's just making stuff up. That's not what I'm saying. Here. What I'm saying is that I just hate when reports. Come out, quote reports that are basically just like common sense. Like, that's what this is. This isn't. Yeah. I don't know fence. So I don't need to tell. I don't need you to tell me that you have sources that eagles. Don't have a lot of capsules like. We all know that over the cap dot com. I don't need you don't need a source for that. I mean, I guess I get it in the sense of again, he heard something he clearly down not saying he made it up by just I don't really know what we learned. You know, I think we pretty much knew we've been I've been saying you've been saying I've been saying we've been saying on BGN radio all along that that's the most likely option that the pickup twenty million dollar option. And then Nick foles pays legals back to millions the ops out, then he's a free agent. That's always been the most likely scenario. I don't think it's impossible that, you know, falls in eagles could worked together as we of talked about last episode or that the goals could put the tag on him. I don't think it's impossible that those things can happen. But it's never been the likely thing. So that's another reason why it's don't like reports like this because it's like, even if he didn't have inside info, you know, you could just put this out there, and you're probably right anyway, 'cause it's just the likely thing. So again, I'm not saying this. What's happening? I just I don't like when. That kind of happens that kind of report comes out. And then honestly, I don't even want to write about it. But I feel like I have two other people were talking about it. And I kinda wanna be like, okay, guys. This isn't exactly news. So you kind of put that out there. But yeah, I think the interesting thing that you kinda touched on is where this is coming from. 'cause it's it's not Neagle source, or at least it doesn't seem like it would be one because why is that getting to a Denver radio host? But right. I don't know. This doesn't really change for me. It's always been the most likely option that he's gonna walk again. I just I don't rule it out that they could trade him just, you know, the small chance of something happening that unexpected especially with Howie Roseman running things there. But you know, it's just if you had to bet on something happening you would bet on him Nick foles walking in free agency. And I just don't see Nick foles complicating the situation for himself. I I know that he probably wants to do right by the eagles. But by agreeing to try and work out a trade instead of just entering the free agent market. You know, it just. Doesn't make sense for him. And I get it. Franchise him. Okay. Go ahead. Yeah. So what has markets does not as strong as he thinks? It could be like what if what is looking weaker. And there's some buzz that that could be the case Tony Pauline had was kinda talking about that the senior bowl. Like, there's talk that there's not really gonna be a big market for false. So if that's the case, and then he's kind of just sitting out there in the market, then his value could potentially go down against his devil's advocate messing. This is the thing. This is the thing that I just think like if he realizes that he doesn't have the strong market anyway. And maybe there's only really one team that wants him at that point. Like what if he can just play good guy and kinda work out with eagles? You know what I mean? I'm just again, I don't likely I'm just saying like, you can't totally discount those small possibilities. You know? It's interesting after the Super Bowl last year when we talked a lot about the possibility of Nick foles going someplace else, and I think it seemed more likely right after the Super Bowl that that could happen. And then during the course of the course of the season, it just never materialized the eagles decided they wanted to hold onto foles in it turned out to be the right decision. He helped get them back into the playoffs this year. And you know, getting the draft pick would have been nice. But you know, the other side of that is you made the playoffs in the season after the Super Bowl largely because of foles. And so I for me, I'm glad they chose not not to trade him. But here you have a situation where like last year, it seemed like there was a lot of buzz about fulls right after the season. But it seems as though the more people think about Nick foles as their frontline quarterback the more. Seems people talk themselves out of it. You know, I'm not talking about people who like holes ater. No. And you know, you know, I I like foles, but I do think that if you're a team if you're a general manager, and you're thinking about giving a quarterback a lot of money, especially if you already have a quarterback soaking up a lot of money like Jacksonville does with Blake Bortles or something like that. Then is this the guy you want to dump a bunch of money into now? Of course, there are GM's in this league who gives Sam Bradford lots of money. I mean, so it's there are there are places. I'm sure Nick foles could land. But I guess there's a question around the league. And it's an understandable question as to whether or not foles would fit into assist an offensive system that isn't run by Doug Peterson. I think that's I think that's a fair thing to wonder, and I guess maybe that's one of the reasons why his market might be a little limited at this point. While John how dare you just you know, you've always been the Kohl center. On this. You. For real though. I mean, just yeah. I think that's fair point. And that's something again that Tony Pauline was saying like there's there's some thought out there in the league that you know, how much of Nicole successes him, and how much of it is being an scheme under Doug. Peterson is a really good head coach and seen falls have success in the NFL without Doug. Peterson us really good twenty seven to back in two thousand thirteen. So I'm not saying, it's all Doug. But you know, there's I think there is some kind of reasonable concern about the scheme it all that out there and really when I think of Nichols destinations this off season. And you can think of places that, you know, like make logical sense. But is there a a release slam dunk team out there? I mean, the giants could keep you lie. I don't think folder wanna go to Washington. Like, you know, I just can't see that don't play for Dan Snyder. Like, Nick foles, you know, who guy who clearly like the environment and all that really important him. I mean, if they're offering him like a billion dollar contract. Yeah. I'm charging. The senate. But that's you know, what have to be some kind of ridiculous offer like that. I think you know, they still allow Smith on the books even if they don't think he can play into nineteen. And that's the report like, you know, do they really want to an this holes wanna go there knowing that Alex Smith come back next year? So like it's just kind of like, where's the slam dunk team for him? Case keenum is still do money in Denver, and does foles even wanna go there to kind of potentially take that job from his former teammate. I don't know. You know, they together with the Rams there. Right. So I don't I don't know Jacksonville. We've talked about maybe them. But I think Miami is Miami's starting to make a lot more Siamese. They wanna trade tannehill yet. But my. We're really talking about one team here that we're. Exactly my point what I was saying earlier like if that's your one team. That's not a market. That's the one. I mean, all it takes is one team to have that offer. But I'm saying it's not like he's going to have this potentially might not have this strong bidding war with with all these people going after him. So I don't know maybe that helps a trade scenario. But yeah, I guess I guess Miami would have to be the spot at this point end. You know, they're did have to move on from tannehill. But I don't know. It seems weird. They like Miami seems kind of like dams on a tank, it seems like just kind of looking at what the tea leaves are going down there. So I don't know if they halls as part of that plan or what? But and I don't know if Nichols wants to go there knowing that this kind of buzz that they're kind of playing the loser, whatever. So I I dunno. I it's it's definitely it'll be interesting to see what happens again, I folded that possibility before that. I I think there's a non zero chance he just retires. I don't think it's the most likely thing. But like if there's just no one out there in I don't know. So. So I don't know. It's it'll be interesting. It's just I legitimately. We all legitimately. Don't have a good feel for this now. But I I really do believe that he in no matter what the market is outside of Philadelphia coming back to Philadelphia next year for the reasons we've talked about on the podcast over these last few weeks to me is untenable at this point this this has to be Carson Wentz his team free and clear of Nick foles as much of a legend as he is it sits time for a Carson Wentz to to take over this team without having to look over his shoulder. So yeah, we'll see this play out here over the next couple of weeks. And of course, be interesting to see whether whether or not foles land someplace before the draft. I would imagine he probably will teams would want to know whether or not, you know, if you have surely pick, whether you're gonna spend that capital on a quarterback, although you know, the deal with with foale's is like he's thirty years old. You know, how much how long is he going to play for you know, you have a guy who plays. He plays for a year or two and you draft a guy at you know, in the top fifteen or the top ten or whatever and groom behind Nick foles. You could do a lot worse than that. As. As far as having a mentor for another quarterback to watch. So he's gonna sign like five months after free. C begins Bryce Harper Machado. I have to remember this isn't like major league baseball free agency where we're already to blow our brains out Chris long also be G made the rounds in the media this last week was on a bunch of different outlets and a lot of talk about whether or not he's going to retire or whether he's gonna come back in two thousand nineteen he turns thirty four in March. But he told the marks and reshow and WIP that he wants to play next year. So it doesn't sound like retirement is on the books. You know, the futures of Brandon Graham and Michael Bennett up in the air. How much do you think the eagles are itching to get Chris long back in their defensive line shuffle for two thousand nineteen. I would hope they want him back. I think the thing with on long's end. He couldn't even mentioned it in the interview talking about like he kind of wants to see almost with eagles plan is at defensive end. I think he just wants to get playing time. I don't think he wants to come back in play like twenty percent of snaps, and I don't think that'd be the case the go for deep usually. At defensive end. And all those guys get around like sixty seventy fifty percent of the playing time. They split it up. But everyone gets the play inaccuracy was super productive for this team last year. He ranked thirty fifth out of a hundred nine edge rusher in pro football focuses pressure rates that he ranked six in quarterback hits. Like, this is a very valuable pass rusher to have coming off the bench year, especially you know, moving forward to if you're going to lose Brandon Graham and with Michael Bennett being another year older, you wanna have as many good defensive ends in here. And it's just it's just clearly position this eagles team values. They're they're going to spend resources in that position. They're not going to go with a bunch of young guys Ricky's like, I know we're talking about how great of defensive line class this isn't industry to that. They're not going to dislike be like. Okay. Derek net. Pick number twenty five. Josh wet day. Sean hall here. He might now not going to happen. They're not gonna air even like all. Those guys Michael Bennett. It's I don't think that's enough. They they want veteran players established players in that room. And I think you have croissant or contract here. It's a fair number. If he retires eagles would save a five point three million. So he's under the cap hit into us nineteen is five point six. So I I would just no hope you keep him and bring him back. And I hope he comes back in two thousand nineteen because if you don't I mean, that's just another whole you have at defensive end with Brandon Graham already potentially leaving in free agency. And then, you know, we're we're all expecting Michael Bennett to stay. But he's thirty three years old. I mean, isn't it kind of funny? I mean, like Saint ages Chris long, basically right talk about him retiring, and he could. So who knows like so hopefully Crisan will be back as eagles. They don't need to be opening more holes at positions. They already need to fill them. At yet. Did the thing with the eagles edge rushers situation is that there seems to be a lot of options for the eagles. This time around. I mean, they have a couple of their own guys like you mentioned with Brandon Graham, and and Chris long who they could make decision on whether or not to to resign. And it seems with each passing day to me like Brandon Graham isn't coming back. I just I don't know it. It's I feel like that the the number that it would take to resign him. Just would be just be a little bit too far out of the eagles price range at this point. But you know, obviously, he could take a hometown discount. I don't know why he would y you would take a hometown discount. But you know, maybe he'll be back and the team decides that they don't wanna bring back Michael Bennet. But I don't see how you can keep Graham Bennett and long because I feel like you need to get. I mean, obviously, you're hoping that Derek Barnett comes back next year and can provide that youth from from the edge that these other guys don't really have. But I don't know that you wanna ride into two thousand nineteen with three aging defensive ends and one young unproven guy and have that be your force, especially when you've got options in the free agent market like to Marcus Lawrence like David clowney. Frank Clark deformed, Trey flowers Cameron wake lot of a lot of other names and free agency that could be a big. And I would even say in some cases, a big upgrade at the defensive end position Biaggi out. Dear you. I'm just blaspheme and all over the place tonight. It's it's impossible for me to say don't resign. I have could you how could anyone say that? I know there's like a there's a business side that you have to have that mindset of what's best for the team. But this is a very special situation. Like, this is an especially for how rosement think about that. This was how his first ever draft pick. I'm not saying that means one hundred percent gonna keep them. But there has to be part of you who human nature. That's like, man. This is not an easy decision. Running Graham is such a great presence in that locker room as someone who like makes everyone else happy as such a happy guy. And you just wanna root for him. Personally. Like, you know, put the journalistic objectively guys, whatever aside like bring ram just from you know, as far as I can tell is great guy. You know, he's always posting pictures with his daughter on Instagram. He just seems like a great guy. Great, dad. Yeah. Obviously, you just been through it, man. He he you know, he got drafted by the eagles. All you heard is that you know, he wasn't Earl Thomas yacht. Hurt early on people calling him a bust which was stupid because he wasn't even even even ever bad in this career. He just got hurt and people thought he was a bus 'cause he got hurt which is a stupid thing. And then you know, he comes on makes literally biggest play any less history. He slayed the dragon of Tom Brady where Tom Brady always wins that game. Like, no one ever stops Tom Brady ever rise choice. Right. He did it. He is a legend forever. And I just I can't say like, oh, you can't keep them now with that said like. Man, if you look at spot rack, which does some free agent projections. Brandon Graham is projected to receive contract worth eighty million though, that's sixteen million year. And really that's not that's not a crazy number like relatives of the market, that's market price. That's what J P P is making. That's what some of these other pass rushers of his kind of ilk are making. So that's just what it might be. Now, you have to consider when those players signed their deals. It's not always the same situation in that Brennan Graham is he's gonna be thirty one. He is entering a free agent market that you just said is loaded with other pass rushers. So that's gonna drive the price down because it's not like you have fifty teams bidding for his services. Like there's a lot of guys out there in free agency. And then you have the draft class. So that's another factor as well. So unfortunately for Brennan Graham, he has some factors working against him. And maybe ultimately that's good for the eagles. They can kind of find a way to bring him back. Of course. I'm not counting on it. It if we're talking about free options though, and we kinda talked about this last week in the podcast at the end. Tony Pauline had said that he had heard you'll are targeting a top free to pass rusher in the way, he said it didn't make it me think he was talking about Brandon Graham, he sounded like he was talking about someone who isn't on the team. That's just my read on it. I'm pretty sure that's a I got the right vibe. They're now again, you kind of just mentioned all the names, they're they're a ton of guys. And that's part of the good news. I guess to look at this whole situation. There's no way the eagles are like screwed into with Brandon Graham now what there's no options. No like, they're they're Honey of options out there. It's about finding the right ones. And I think two of the guys to watch our sedalia Smith who was a former ravens traffic, and it's obviously always going to be worth mentioning the Joe Douglas thing. And then as you'll onsite who is the number five overall pick in two thousand thirteen NFL draft. Which is Jim Schwartz says last season. With the line. So I think those are two guys kinda watch out for their younger than ring. Brandon Graham, maybe I it's just hard to see eagle spending huge infrequency any position 'cause we know they're cap situation. But like the thing about that is it goes back to defensive end is a position. I just don't think they're going to mess around out like they're not gonna try to get Q early. Try to save money that that's what they're going to do. They're going to put serious resources into that position. That's why buy it. That's they're going to invest in the trenches because literally helped them win the Super Bowl. So that's this was going to be. So I don't know again, exactly what the are gonna do here. Don't have a super great sense. And that's what so many things this off season, but they're gonna have options. And that's that's what we do know. And that's the good news Ryan. And you mentioned they are going to devote resources to this position that could be their first round draft pick as well. And that's also, you know, that that's hopefully an impact player who. Can help out relatively soon if not right away. So we'll just have to see how things shake out. Well, listen coming up. We're gonna get into some Dallas Cowboys news that we got a little bit of disappointing news from Jerry Jones here on Thursday. We will relate to you. And also play a quick game of Philadelphia. Look at some other eagles free agents and ask the question. Stay or go. We'll get to that up next right here on radio. 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Their first round playoff victory would result in the kind of euphoria in the Dallas front office, which would maybe caused them to do something a little foolish, and obviously we were talking about them offering Jason Garrett and extension of some kind because you, and I and the rest of the really the NFL doesn't think much of Jason Garrett as a head coach. And the thinking was hey, you won the division again Jason Garrett and you wanna play off game, man. You are a coach on the rise. Jerry, lock this guy up, but ESPN is reporting that Jones is now not expected to offer Garrett and extension. Meaning that Joan that Garrett will enter two thousand nineteen as a lame duck. Coach g he told a local radio station. I. I've made clear how I feel about Jason in terms of where he is right now as far as L ability to help us win football games. I think if you look at what we've done over the last few years, you'll see a pretty good winning record there. But it's not enough not enough. So unfortunately LG Jason Garrett. We're not guaranteed any more than just one more year from him. It's kind of a bummer, buddy. I mean, I think it's actually good news for the because I mean like, I think are just think about how good it is. You know that we're we don't have to worry about Jason Garrett. It would be terrible to have him. Stay in the division is what I'm trying to say here like calbos. You're listening yet is definitely don't item to extension like please don't do that. That would be terrible. Dak Prescott definitely come on. You can't extend NY the master. So. So. Hopefully, listen, seriously, like the first twenty seconds there. I was like, man. This is a sea change. I bid it man. I bid on it hard. Well, thank you. At least one person did. So yeah, I been on that double move like Jalen mills. I was you did perfect poor Jalen. It's true though. It's it's true. That it's weird. It is a weird move. I feel like by them because it's like are you committed to him? Are you not like if you're not feeling good enough to commit to them? Now, why is your head coach like an iron like make a decision now? I guess I get somewhat of like, okay. The pressures on easy. They're gonna turn in a really good year of coaching and they're gonna send him or he's not in. They're gonna move on. So I guess I get it from that sense. But if I'm a Cowboys fan, which I'm not I would kind of be like can we just be done with him or commit to Murdy find it like make this instead of being this weird neutral area. But a, but yeah, I don't know. I guess it's probably gonna play out where the Cowboys will not be too great again next year. I think they'll finally actually move on from him. I was reading recently about how the Cowboys are one of the teams in. Build on did a piece on ESPN about how looking at some over unders already believe it or not for the to nineteen season early. But okay a little bit early. But just you know, there are some factors. You can kind of look at early on the kind of point to a team under over performing their win total and the Cowboys are listed at eight point five right now, and you of wrote about how Dow finished eight into in games defied by seven points or fewer into Dow's and and eighteen and as we know those are kind of toss ups like so just going by natural regression. The Cowboys are probably going to regress in two thousand in nineteen if that pattern homes they were ten and six this past season. But if you look at like their actual Protagoras theme kinda win there. They played more like eight point four win team. So they they they overachieved basically is what I'm trying to say. So I think there will. Regression there. I again, I just don't think you're it's not good. We can make fun of them for the Pro Bowl, which by the way, I home though, was amazing. Just for like blood in the boys to be like. Yeah. You guys watch the Pro Bowl this year because the Cowboys new offense of coaching staff. Whatever. All right, not. I mean, that's still Yengo. I think the first place, but like whatever then the Cowboys naturally go in what the score like seven points the whole game in a game where there's no real. There's no blitzing. There's no real debts of game plan. Now, you can say there's no offensive super offensive game plan. But I mean like still it's clearly a game favored towards offense, and they only scored seven points. So and just the quick turn of how that didn't matter anymore, by the way was great too. Like, hey, we're saying watch the Pro Bowl it matters halfway through the game. Like if you're tweeting about this like, it means anything off Twitter. And then by the end of the game. They're just like while. Let's just pretend this didn't happen. So yeah, we we we shot Arshad. It didn't it didn't. Go in. But yeah, that was old takes exposed. Usually you have to wait about a few months in order for that to work. But that was the span of a few hours. So that was pretty and they have Kellen Moore was named their new offense coordinator for Scotland Eoghan John kitten is going to be the QB coach. And now anytime anytime you've got. Ofensive changes to big time coordinators assistant coaches like that and yet the existing head coach is staying and he's going into a lame duck season that does not bode well for your existing head coach for the guys read underneath you new guys to be brought in. I mean, it's just aching for a change to be made at the end of the two thousand nineteen season four for like Kellen Moore to be elevated to that spot. You wonder if he didn't get this job as offense coordinator takeover for Jason Garrett when his contract is up. But again, it's it's the Cowboys. I don't really care that much. But it's just kind of interesting. Some intrigue inside the palace there in Dallas see what happens with those guys during the course of the two thousand nineteen season. I let's play a quick game of eagles free agents. Stay or go be L LG. We've already talked about Brandon Graham, I guess we can say let's, you know, we'll put the hammer down on some of these guys Nichols. We both believe is gone. On. We'll just ask right up. Brandon graham. Are we asking should they stay or go or will they stay or go? I guess we need to make that clear. Yes, we can do both. I think we should. Let's yeah. Yeah. I guess that's true. Grant. I think we should do both. Okay. I'm making the executive decision. It's whatever how many minutes into this thing. That's your call. All right. Brandon graham. I I'm with you that he should stay do. I think he will stay. Man. The no, I don't think he will. I don't think he will. I think. Yeah. I don't wanna see him go either. But I don't think he'll stay. I think you should stay. Yeah. I'm with you just well for him for his sake. I hope he gets the most money and is the most happiness. That's what he deserves. And I will not no one should begrudge him for that. If if he gives the best deal, and it's another team like thank you for everything. Brandon. Like, you, you know. Yeah. What more could you legend do at that point? So I will include with these ones going through descru- quick that the began polling on them in. We asked them should that. You'll keep renting Graham is at fifty four percent. Yes. And forty six percent now. I'm surprised it's that low actually I would've thought higher than fifty four percent are moving on a golden Tate. Beal g they got eagles got him for a third round pick a heavy pricey obviously made a big play in the wildcard round against the Chicago Bears. But you know, is there room for him on this team next year, especially with Nelson are coming back on that rookie fifth year of his contract. I don't know what do you think about golden Tate? Will he stay or go? And should he stay or go? Yeah. I mean, I just I don't really see him coming back. Although it's weird because how Roseman called the golden Tate trade a success. In a weird way. At Sally expected him say, it was a failure. When he was asked about it. But he of like really stood behind it. You know, like extra firm a little bit kind of like unexpectedly? So it wasn't like, you know, we try to work out. You know, we liked it. It was it wasn't like kind of lukewarm owes like really if you. So that was weird stuff. Kind of makes me myself a little bit. I can't see it. He's the top regent weather on the market. Really? When you look at it. And I think he's got a lot of attention in free agency. And you know, he was only here for a couple of months. I don't think he's. Feels especially tied to the area or anything. Yeah. I just I don't see it. And and I don't see why he would wanna come back after the really couldn't find a way to use him super effectively. So I just I don't really see it. Yeah. The eagles. I think we we've seen work best as a twelve personnel team. And they have a guy in Nelson guitar who does almost all of the things that golden Tate does. So I agree. I don't think he should be back. And I don't think he will be back either. Hello de Nado on the defensive on the defensive line had a couple of games towards the end of the season where he showed you he wasn't dead and for most of the season, and I can say. Basically, I think you know, I think we both agree. He probably won't be back in probably shouldn't be correct. He's gonna be thirty six. So I'm imagining he just retires. Okay. Chance warm act on the offensive line. He was soaking up a lot of cap space this year to on necessarily bringing. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Well, he's on this list that I have in front of me here. And yeah, we we both in agreement about chance should be gone. We'll be gone if he wants anything more than the vet minimum. No get out of here. Okay. Chris Maragos who missed the whole season with an injury. He he is a valuable special teams guy. And I can't imagine Bill G he would cause the whole lot. So I would be interested in bringing him back. And I can't imagine why they wouldn't bring him back. Because again, I don't think he would cost all that much. Right. We have that second surgery on his knee late in the regular season. So I don't know if he's ever really like, I don't know if he's gonna play football. I mean, he's gonna be thirty two. So I'm assuming in might just retire if he's available. He's healthy on a minimum. Sure. Why not? But I'm kinda this assuming he's retiring. I don't know. All right next name. This is an interesting one because the eagles signed Mike Wallace this past off season to a one year deal hoping he'd be a field stretcher and he just never got back on the field. He was he after getting hurt. I was at week two. Did he get hurt? You're not making a catch. Yeah. They never catch in the first game of the season. I mean, you just talk about a free agent signing that failed miserably. I'll throw this one to you first because I'm. Not sure that I know should he be back in two thousand nineteen and will he be back in two thousand nineteen are then you should because I think it will work out where the price is going to be low. I mean, he's going to be. You know, he's coming off as injury. So how big this market really be? He didn't really get that big of a deal last year to begin with it was called one year four million. But there was kind of a lot of incentives in there how he kinda made it work in a way where the eagles didn't count against their Compaq. So he's gonna be thirty three in August. I just can't see none of the market really being big for him. So I think you'd be able to bring him back Tepe you need that deep speed. You're not rushing to go out and pay him by any means. I just think there could be a point where it makes sense for both sides of wants to continue playing, and I it's cheap. I just think that like why not to me, you know, he was looking good in training camp. He still that deep speed. I just think you know. That's maybe the, you know, find a better option again, you're not rushing to sign him. But I I wouldn't close the door on it. Now, I wouldn't close the door on it either. But I I like the idea of bringing Sean Jackson back into the fold and in some way. Perform I don't know exactly what that would entail. But barring not being able to do something like back like that. Then. Yeah, I'd say you can bring Mike Wallace back. But I don't know that I don't know that I'm pining for that to happen. We talked about Corey Graham minute ago, probably going to retire Darren sproles. This is another interesting name because you know, he's been talking about retiring for the last two years, but obviously getting hurt missing all two thousand seventeen made him Hungary to come back in two thousand eighteen and then he missed almost all of last year. But when he did come back late in the season. He wasn't the dynamic player. He used to be but was affective and did some things really well in the role in which the eagles asked him to be an for me. I think he should be back. And I think he will be back next year build this coming year Bilgee, I would handle it similar to other last year. They didn't sign him until after the draft. So they had kinda early seen. What they could do it would infrequency and drafts or the drafts. And all the moves they could make their and I don't think Darren sproles coned. Be rushing to sign at all either on his end. So I think that's kind of where I'd leave it. I leave it as let's see what else can do. Maybe they can kinda get some running backs in here who fill his role, and you of just don't need them at that point. And if it reaches that point, I wouldn't but in general, I kind of do wanna back just because I still think he has some gas left in the tank he's gonna be kinda were talking about earlier, the are limited cafes. So they can't to spend money everywhere. They're gonna go have to cheap at some places. And I just think you know, that's potentially area where they could go cheap. The next guy is also very interesting. And I I'm not exactly sure where I land on Ronald Darby be Eljay because of the emergence of Avantis Maddox this year, and we saw Russell Douglas play very well when when they eventually got on the field and got enough Rapson and started to feel comfortable in the secondary. If Jalen Mills's back in healthy, and you've gotta vont mattox. And you've got Russell Douglas. Do you spend the money that? It would need to take to keep Ronald Darby and sign him for another however, many years of guaranteed cash. It would take to keep them in Philadelphia. No know. You know, I don't think you can you have someone youth and talent in the secondary already without him. I just don't think it makes any sense. Honestly, he's he's probably one of the top corners on the market. So teams are going to be after him infrequency, even coming off, this ACL tear. I think unless something weird situation where his market totally just doesn't materialize. And he's looking to come back on one year deal of some sort when you're at deal. That's where I would consider it. But I like round Darby. I think he's a good player. I just don't think it makes sense financially for the eagles are really for him to to make that work where he comes back. So he's going to be gone should be gone. And really he's probably someone you're really counting on to help. Get that cockpit formula going in the eagles favor. You know, meaning like he signed somewhere, and that's going to help the eagles get that compensate. Very pick in with him pending on the deal. You gets it could be three or four. So you almost have to look at it that way, you're almost. Trading him for a future pick. And I think everyone would probably do that. Yeah. I would too. I think the I loved what I saw from Madison. I really thought Douglas played really well at the end of the season to pair them with Jalen mills. I think that's a very nice trio. You could get that trio on the field for pretty cheap couple of the guys to mention here, Jordan Hicks. I don't know what to make Jordan hick spiel because there there have been times during his eagles career where he has played like an impact player, but he he was and the rest of the linebacking corps was completely invisible in two thousand eighteen and I know that the eagles defense is not set up like the Dallas Cowboys defense. But when you watch the Cowboys play, and you see how athletic and versatile, their linebackers are makes me wanna have a couple of linebackers, or at least one linebacker that can do some of those things. And I thought that Jordan Hicks was going to be one of those guys at a certain point. But you know for so much of the season. He didn't miss much of. The season. He he'd had a few games where he was out with an injury. But he really was healthy for the large majority of the season. And you never heard his name mentioned. I don't think I would bring him back next year, Brandon. I maybe I don't know what else is out there haven't really looked closely at linebacker and free agency. But, you know, unless you get him again on a on a cheaper deal might be looking to upgrade so weird spot and speaking of Levick, she'll potty of flick earlier this week had pointed out the Nigel Brad him, Jordan necks combined for zero interceptions and zero force fumbles in two thousand eighteen now to be fair to Jordan aches he did have that one to flesh in which caused that Kamu who Jay hill interception early in the giants game. So he did have that play but point being just enough. And it's so weird because for most of Jordan his career up to the season. He's really like been a ball magnet. Like that guy. Always makes plates on the ball. It was crazy. I remember looking at stats going into early in two thousand. Fifteen he was on pace to have the same kind of numbers that hall of fame linebacker, Jack ham had like, that's crazy. The he was winning up really good production earlier on his career. Now. He's had these injuries. I've almost one. I almost wonder if they've kind of dislike sapped him of that ability to this point. I don't know. I thought he played like solid in the against the saints slave, yo back and watch that game. I think he was pretty solid in that game. Not again, not great. I don't he's bad. You know by any means not alive -bility out there. It's just kinda comes down to price. And I think he's going to have an interesting market because of injury issues, and because of the recent lack of play making I think it's kinda in the same boat as Darby I said earlier a little bit in the sense of there could be a situation where he goes out and the market isn't what they expected to be. Or was he was expecting it to be. So he doesn't really get that grant deal. So he kind of comes back on one year prove at deal and try to make it work for one more season. See if he can have a good. Year. And maybe go test the market again next year, get a better offer. So I don't know he is one of the better linebackers. I think in free agency when you look at the list out there so L takes his one team to kind of really liked him. And he was third round pick in two thousand fifteen maybe some other teams had him relatively high on their board. And they feel like they're desperate enough for linebacker help. So I the also yen. They shouldn't close the door Jordan ex. But I'm not gonna say it's likely that he's back yet. And it's unlikely they spend in early pick probably first pick on a linebacker. That's just not what this team does. And right drank the draft is obviously lying in other places. So if you're not going to upgrade from free agency in port Hicks is really the best option of free agency might as well just bring him back, but just had a very very disappointing season. I thought just a in not being able to get those turnovers like you talked about just a couple other guys here, and we can run. I'll just ask you like, Richard Rogers, Jordan, Mathews J Gye. Yeah. DJ alexander. I mean, some of these why not. Yeah. And Rick Lovato, it's these are all some guys. Yeah. I mean, it's the we the big guys. There are some really intriguing names eagles out to make decisions on some of those guys the ones we mentioned at the end. Most of them won't be backing if the ones that are probably won't would just be a small little ripple in the ocean. As far as the ky-ko's caps base situation is concerned coming up we're going to go over Super Bowl fifty two. And I will give you are quick preview of the of the guy who's playing the patriots. And the Rams say the falcons for some reason. I don't know why the rans and probably. Yeah. I guess that's where my head is. Yeah. It's in Atlanta. So but the patriots and the Rams on Sunday evening Super Bowl fifty three. We'll give you our preview coming up right after this year on BGN radio. Hi, this is Jim. Check out our podcast step over Willoughby blowers podcast network for all of your Sixers needs layer analysis. Game breakdowns with the Colson headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcast feed. An I tune Stitcher Spotify or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball, mostly. All right. We've put it off long enough b l g there is a large football game being played in Atlanta on Sunday evening, and you know, the Super Bowl just isn't as much fun without the eagles in it. But you know, you, and I are football fans. We will watch Super Bowl fifty three. We'll watch the patriots and the Rams to teams neither of us like very much. And I don't know whether Beal g it's just that the eagles aren't in it and they were last year. But the city is not up for this game. Nobody is really feeling this game. I don't think a whole lot because there isn't a team to really root for as far as I can tell there's reasons to root against the patriots. And there's reasons to root against the Rams to and I think when I sit down and I start watching the game. I'll end up pulling for the Rams, but I'm not going to feel good about it. I'm not going to feel good about rooting for Sean McVay and Jared Goff. What are you when you sit down on Sunday? What who do you think you'll be pulling for meme, I'm not going to be pulling for anyone? I can't use the freezing. I have to use who I will be rooting against in for into that. I will say that. I am trying to look at this game. As if you know, I can I can find joy in one of these teams losing. That's what I'm going to try to focus on like one of these teams lose. And I'm going to enjoy that. That's that's my focus trying to put it in the most positive light against as I can for me personally. So I laid out the reasons today in a post on leading greenish dot com to go check it out if you haven't already I just feel like there is more reason to against the Rams than there is a patriots. I really do. And I think I was feeling that to buddy, I think the crux of it comes down to if the betas win. So what like who cares? Like, it'll though care, obviously. But I'm saying like as the sports world in general turns like, okay, they want again, they'll be like a week of coverage or whatever any SPN, but they'll just be like, okay. You know what? Whatever. Like, that's it. They want again. Great cool. Like, it's not going to be this whole big ordeal. That like, oh, they won, and blah, blah, blah. I just like I just don't see how it changes anything from what we know. Like, they're already gradient, doesn't you whatever gets whatever. And I'm sorry. But like the patriots aren't really truly it. Ian eagles rival. They're not truly. I mean, in a way, I get why they are in the way that we want to beat them. But just like. Everyone thinks they're rivals the patriots because they're really good. Everyone wants to beat them. Like, that's just that's not. It's nothing special to the eagles. So I'm trying to say for the most part. Sure. And I just think conceptually to like just as an AFC team in general. They're just not a really they're not a real eagles rival you play that team once every four years in the regular season. Like that's just not a team. You really have a rivalry with. That's why no talk about like Steelers eagles being rivalry. It's it's not stupid. They play once before years. It doesn't matter. The Rams are in the NFC the play them tench -ly a lot. So that's a centime own ac- win. And we you know, how I feel as you personally end the audience about Sean McVeigh he's overrated. The Rams zones has to be in this game. They they benefited from a horrible too horrible missed calls in being ship game show McVay was a total coward and that decision. Sure. It should have cost them the game. So I don't wanna hear how he's an offense of. Genius. That that I'm getting so worked up already. That's. Keep going seriously insane. If that's that's what I can't take. I guess that's why I have to root against the Rams more. Because like it just drives me insane. It makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills when we're talking about. Oh, Sean McVay offense genius when he's being a total coward. And it should have cost the Rams a game. But it didn't and had nothing to do with him. By the way. Why didn't it was total luck? It took. It took literally one of the worst. 'cause in playoff history to bailout shot McVeigh's. I don't wanna hear how he's an offensive genius. I so stupid. And the reason I get mad about it is because we've seen how this hype is harmful it costs. Doug Peterson coach of the year last year. It's a joke. He shouldn't have won it. The Rams had an impressive turnaround last year thousand seventeen. Yes, I'm not saying McVeigh is a bad coach. And he's a good coach. I don't think he's a great coach. I think that bullshit to say he is. And look at me swear already just because. Is so ridiculous. You look at that season. And the Rams had literally no injuries until week fourteen. When they lost their starting quarterback cave on Webster. And then they lost their kicker in week seventeen. Big whoop. The had a ton of injuries last year it ton of injuries. This year Rams are also very healthy this year. And so that's the McVay part of it now until the golf part of it like, you know, John that we are just going to be hearing so much stupid stuff about. Oh, Jared Gava the Super Bowl before Carson wins. Like, this is bad for. First of all this is stupid because nothing to do with Carson Wentz. Second of all the only thing passed on your golf, by the way, they picked too. So what does that even the pick the wrong guy like they never had the chance to Jeff geared towards the MVP last year. He got them to where they needed to get to the Super Bowl too. I mean whence was responsible for a Super Bowl title as anybody else. Chancy that knowledge that and. Isn't seem to me excuse me. How we're talking about like Jared Goff as anything anything kind of special or good. He's been terrible in the playoffs. I don't like how are we not talking about this more collectively, I feel like again, I know is playoff stats are very bad. He is completing fifty under fifty seven percent of his passes. He's averaging six point five yards per tempt. Which is not good. He is two touchdowns. One interception and a seventy eight point nine passer rating. He stinks. He isn't. He has not been good in the playoffs. So I just like I don't wanna hear that just because Darren Gough wins game, especially like watch. It'd be a game where the defense plays doesn't even play. Well, and it'll be people be talking about Al, you know, that's a a Mark against Carson Wentz. Somehow. So I just can't take wanna hear all that stupid stuff. And I think that's what happens if the Rams win. So there you go. I don't want the Rams to win the Super Bowl. I that's exactly the two now is singing last week when you were talking about this because that was my initial reaction as well. You know, I don't wanna see golf win a Super Bowl before officially win a Super Bowl before Wentz. Now when held the trophy last year with the eagles. And again, he got them off to a twelve and three start last year and set that whole damn thing up without Carson Wentz. They don't go to the Super Bowl last year. They the he was responsible for getting that team in the position where foles had to win three games to win the title. So I I don't believe it would be golf when Goffin's a Super Bowl before Wentz whence has won a Super Bowl. He was as responsible for it as anybody else on that team last year. But nevertheless, that's going to be the narrative as you as you just said, and you know. When you look at the patriots side, you know. I feel I don't even want to say that I feel a little bit bad for Tom Brady. But you know, that what the story line is going to be here is Tom Ray? Tom Brady's redemption in the Super Bowl, you know, that he caused his team after throwing within five hundred yards and Super Bowl fifty two. It was his fumble. At the end of the game that cost the patriots a chance to win and he has played like a man possessed in the playoffs, and he he wants to keep that rolling. And I think I think the broadcast will more than likely you'll be able to hear the them pulling for Brady and for him to to to Matt to get that sixth title. And so that's going to be tough to listen to as well. But I do think agree with you. The ram stuff is going to be more insufferable. So I'm not sure when I sit down on the couch. I'm not sure which way I'm going to be leaning. It's going to be it's going to it's probably gonna take a quarter before I know exactly who I'm rooting for. And. Rooting against and at the end of the day. I just wanna see a good football game. And I I don't really know who I'm rooting against Moore at this point. But gee, when we're looking at the actual play on the field. Obviously in my mind. I think this is a big mismatch. I think the patriots are far superior team to the Rams I think the way that New England comes into this game. They're playing better. I don't really see a weakness on New England right now, they're defense is playing well look at how they really stifled the chiefs for most of the game in the AFC championship game Tom Brady and the running game in the offense of line are moving the ball almost at will. And I just don't see a whole lot of weaknesses right now with the patriots. I also think they're hungrier than than they have been in a long time. So I guess my question to you is what is the most important thing that each team needs to do in order to win on Sunday. Well, I think the biggest thing the Rams have working in their favor is that the and I've been saying this way before the Rams are in the Super Bowl the NFL once football to succeed in Los Angeles. So. Is it a coincidence that we saw one of the worst halls in the playoff history go in the ram saver last couple of weeks ago? I don't know. I'm just raising the question. I think there is something to that though. Because last year you saw with with coach of the year in pretty much like every other award went to the Rams. And I totally think that's the thing. They we gotta have football. You know, look like, it's succeeding in LA. So that kind of makes me nervous about this whole thing. I just feel like I don't know. There could be something weird that kinda gets screwy in the Rams benefit again from that sense, hoping that's the conspiracy thing I'm wrong. But I don't know it's gonna make me a little bit nervous. I think that, you know, the base thing the Rams have working in their favor for real on football is Aaron Donald and the fact that everyone always talks about you. Gotta get pressure on Brady. I mean. Yeah, I this goes without saying, but what kind of pressure and the pressure. That's generally, I feel like hardest to generate is interior pressure. And by the way, most effective on Tom Brady as Brandon Graham. Yeah. Over. Doc Mason with let you know how that works out. So I think that's you know, I think that's why the Rams have someone of a chance of this one just because like if Aaron Donald has a monster game, and these very capable of doing that, then he could come up with some huge place that kind of neutralize Brady little like to certain extent. So I think that's why the Rams have the chance in this one. But I mean, I Kau can you really pick against Brady and Belle check. When you're just looking at the other, you know, the other coach in the other quarterback on the other side light like Brady over Gough is a huge edge. I just told you golf has been terrible in the playoffs. Like, how can you not like Brady over him? And then we'll del check. I mean. Like Doug Peterson coach last year. I'm not saying it's impossible that some up and comer can do it. But I just feel like again McVeigh isn't that great of a coach to me? I just he's not he's a good coach. But he's not a great coach and Bill Belichick for the most part is a great coach. Hopefully, Bill doesn't decide to randomly sit. One of his defensive starters in this game lead last year that probably be probably helped them win this year this time. So barring him doing something stupid like that are just feel better about the patriots as a whole. I don't think I I don't know if I can go as far as you say they're going to blow him out, but. I feel like they win. And generally, I'm fine with that. Obviously. I never wanna see the patriots win. If it can be helped. But unfortunately, it's just the unbreakable thing here, and I guess the win and whatever while zero zero on Monday, and we can look forward to hopefully winning and essentially hopefully never learn the patriots to in a Super Bowl after this year. And I think going back into some of the reasons to be rooting against the Rams is don't you want us to be the last team that ever beat the patriots in the Super Bowl yet? And be the one team that beat them in the Super Bowl over the last four trips New England's last four trips. They're just another thing to think about. Yep. No, absolutely. I am totally on board with that. I think the thing for me in order for the Rams to pull this off. I think they need to have a big game from Todd Gurley. And we forget about how good Todd Gurley is. But. The Rams have become a running team. Since Cooper Cup went out. The offense has has just fallen apart. The passing game has not been as good as it was early in the season when it was just dynamic, and they have not figured out a way to replace Cup. Instead they've turned to the running game. And I think if if the Rams are going to be able to keep up with New England they're going to have to keep doing offense off the field. And they're going to have to get a lot a big game out of Todd Gurley. And it's good that he's got a week to rest and get healthy for this game. But if they don't if they don't get a big performance out of girly here in this one. I don't see how they can keep up with New England. Because while I do believe in Aaron Donald, and I do believe in postseason indomitable sue, I think the patriots just do such a good job of getting the ball out quickly that it's gonna neutralize those two guys. And it's going to be up to the LA offense to kind of keep up like the eagles offense did last year. And I just don't see that with Jared Goff it quarterback. So. To me. That's those are the most important most important things for for the Ramsden in order to kind of stay in this game. But as I mentioned Beal, gee, I am not feeling good. If you're a Rams fan. I would not be feeling good about this game. As I'm thinking about my prediction here Beal, gee, I am reminded that in their five Super Bowls. The patriots have won by three points. Three points. Three points. Six on an overtime walk off touchdown and then four points in the Seahawks game and all three of their losses were close to. So New England Super Bowls the history is that this is going to be a close game. I don't see it. I think this is a game. I think New England is mad. I think New England is frankly, I think they're pissed off. I think Tom Brady is motivated. I think Bill Belichick is motivated last year. I don't think they came into the Super Bowl last year motivated as much as this year. They started off that game in a fog in Super Bowl, fifty two Bella check, benching Malcolm Butler at the start of the game is still as mystifying a move as I've ever seen. And I don't think there's going to be anything like that here. I think the I think the patriots are going to come out. And I think they're due for a Super Bowl win where they blow somebody out this this this dynasty to win. This many Super Bowls by such close margins. I think they're due for a big blowout. And I just don't think the Rams have. I think it's too big a stage for Jared Goff at this point. And they're gonna get down early. I think it's going to get away from them like some of the old Super Bowls that we used to watch the games are over by halftime. I think you could see something similar to that here. So I'm going to say patriots thirty eight ram seventeen. Beal Joe, though, it'd be quit. Oh, man. Offense of Sean McVay only putting up seventeen points in the Super Bowl. Yeah. I think it's going to be a ten point game. I'll say I think it's a little bit. You know, it would be the biggest patriots win as of you know, the scores you just read off there. So I think they do in just again, why am I taking the ramp said, why am I taking them? I just like what's the reasoning that I feel so great about them. I just I don't see when you look at the most important things, which is you know, coach quarterback their offensive line's very good. You know, maybe they do some ball control stuff. Like you said. But I think actually patriots will probably be able to do that more to them. And that's kind of what they've been doing in the playoffs. That's how they beat the chiefs there. They didn't let him the ball. Right. You know, early on like the chiefs had a couple three announcing the patriots were just you know, putting together these big drives in the in the chiefs couldn't even do anything. So I think we could see something similar here in this game. I ain't ten point win. Maybe it's close until the end. I don't know that it's necessarily patriots the whole way could be. Close into the end in the patriots break away late in the game. I don't have any massive exciting prediction for this one distinct tempo game pitches win thirty three and I'm giving them that score, obviously. Because that's the number. They scored in this revolt last year when they lost and Rams twenty three. All right. Well, listen. These Super Bowls are always worth watching. And if it's a blowout. You get to watch some commercials, which are actually almost always dumb too. But any final thoughts before we wrap up episode number thirty five here. I mean eagles have already gotten started in some of their off-season stuff. In addition to the Rodney McLeod restructure. They resigned Paul Warrilow, which is obviously huge news. Just you know, backup linebacker who will provide some depth for the team after getting hurt on literally the first day of OT as last year of those tough. One of the impacts the few impacts of the Corey Nelson signing was him taking out Paul were low. So you know off season coming up here. Lots of things to talk about things to figure out we will. Of course, be with you here to talk about it, all it'll be fun. You can leave us reviews. I tunes Stitcher south out all that good stuff to help his due to support the podcast that you're not paying to listen to be in radio. It's free. These do notice review. If you like it tells what you do like unpack cast what you don't like. And we really appreciate it. So as always thanks John for a good. This is the the official end of the two thousand eighteen season here with the Super Bowl coming up. So it's been a good season in. Here's to a very exciting in busy offseason. Absolutely. 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The Kist & Solak Show #41: Finding Blame in the Sea of Misery

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The Kist & Solak Show #41: Finding Blame in the Sea of Misery

"They. Hi, this is Jim chica- our podcast step over will be ballers podcasts that work for all of your Sixers needs. Says game breakdowns with a course in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts heathen, I tune Stitcher sparked by or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Michael kissed Benjamin. So it's the Kistin Solex show presented by SP nation and leading nation. Flying high on kissed and Solex show. Forty-one brought to you by the SP nation and leading green nation. I'm your host, Michael kissed. Follow me on Twitter at Michael NFL as always joined by the dog on co host in the game, Mr. eight year streak without a bad day Benjamin. So lack follow him on Twitter at Benjamin, so lack that's S L A K. Ben, how're you doing bud? I'm not talking to you. You pay goes on pizza as highly questionable. The one person to question me about this you eating your cabbage out of a okay? Okay. Okay. So let's let's let's let's dry very clear distinctive social chain like eating a vegetable that's been around for Jillian years like Delhi. People have in for centuries versus being like, you know, it would improve this classic Italian dish pickles for now. Nigrian Ben on the ask you this. Did you go out of your way to try pizza with pickles on happen to you like was it just like somebody nearby had a slice of pizza on Medicaid Travis. I saw it on Twitter. And I was like that actually looks pretty good because I'm a big fan of pickles and pizzas a high floor food. So that's how that happened. Ben. I'm gonna ask you a question. I don't actually actually going to make an accusation pointed directly at you. I don't think you've ever had it because you're afraid to be great. And you are me based on nothing. You don't have the old twenty two on the pickle pizza and you're making. Yeah. This is this is what I do. I just judged things like, you know, rotely like off of the cost. I to me. I don't know. Like, I I would try if it was around bag. I would try to me it seems quite quite disgusting, obviously. But I would try I have no no qualms about that. It's simply I don't I did. I'd like to say that it is good seems various shopping to fire. I said that it was fire. And I stand by that take. I don't think it's a hot take. Wow. You must be one of those cool young kids. So Ben today. What are we doing today? We're doing some coaches film review today of this horrible. Dallas Cowboys Philadelphia Eagles game, obviously, some house cleaning to do I with some rostrums. But I wanted your opinion. I struggled to continue to watch this game in any sort of like set block of time. I was in and out for me was it was a bad experience. But I got through it about you. There were there were just generally in my opinion, so many plays that were just like somebody who was directly involved with the play executed the plate. Rightly you know, what I mean like it was just there was a great deal of just poor execution stem to stern. I personally think that Doug Peterson had an absolutely fine day play designing and play calling. I think Jim Schwartz had a super fine day. Play designing and play calling to be very Frank with you. Yeah. And that's that's not. That's not. Sake that we have on this your podcast. They came out. They were prepared after a buy week. It would to me the team did not seem prepare on. It was one of Carson's weaker gains offense side of the football pretty much. None of the skill position players. Besides was given him much help offense of line wise thought it was just a shaky as you'd expect vitae there on the outside and the things you have to do around that. Yeah, right defensively. I think the linebackers getting a little bit too much blame. I mean, simply the corner play on Sunday night was dreadful just just from an like Douglas had good plays. Darby had good plays. Mattis had good blaze. Channon Sullivan didn't really do anything. But just like they're like at key moments. The corners just made mistake after mistake after mistake in inability to to do whatever. And obviously, we know Schwarz's scheme is taxing on his corners. But still this is just it was there was poor execution from potable, and you don't win many games like that. And I agree and we're going to die. Into all of that. I I will note that the Philadelphia Eagles have designated tight end. Richard Rodgers good old dick rod to return from injured reserve and they've also swapped practice squad tight end. So Billy Brown is out. He had a big hive in the preseason. And we'll tie is in will more experience. I guess right. They're going with Bill tie who has has one of the weirdest. Like have you seen his workout numbers will? No, I'm not mock draftable, his I think you should be if not checked in draft scout because his pro day workout makes zero sense to me. And I remember this from a couple of years ago. I haven't seen them recently. So I wanna see what what you pull up there because I remember them being like gross like they say rail like four four and you watch him play any runs like he'd be Bruns like four eight is what it looks like. So very interesting swamp. They're to fifty seven ran a four five seven according to draft scout. I swear he ran faster than that. There we go. I got the story. He he ran a four four seven four seven forty yard dash at his pro day. That's what they say at Stony Brook. I think they're cooking the books there. Yeah. Less did produce results on draft dot com is four five seven. Yeah. That makes a lot more sense. So yeah, I'm seeing multiple websites. Here path pulpit times clocked is running as low as four four seven on a forty or dash schools pro day. So people are people are cooking the books there Stony Brook's anyway. So that's a big move in hundred dollars right now, if you can name the Stony Brook mascot is it a big rock. No. The effort. It's a river. It's a creek. It's a Stony Brook. How do you flush? The do you make that like what is that look like Stony Brook mass? I'm being sarcastic. They're not actually that. They are the sea wolves look man there. The sea wolves is what they are. Yeah. I see the wolf now. Okay. That makes a lot more sense. I was like how do you yet know make their now like the the fighting Okri's? Okay. This village mascot. I mean, Stanford is the tree so anything's possible. Right. All right. Well, that was a ridiculous opening to the show, and we're gonna make a hard transition into the coaches as usual for the twenty seven to twenty loss to the Dallas Cowboys. We've seen the tape. We have thoughts. Ben I wanted to start with some we'll start with some surface level stuff as far as stats go. And you see the eagles going four for ten on third down zero for two on fourth down at four for twelve on money down thirty three percent. That's just not gonna get it done. And it's really like this team for all of its failings. Just uncharacteristic of them to convert at that poor rate, and you kind of go down the line of failed ones starting the game with the bubble screen to take that give stops short. The next one is at the sticks to L, Sean. There was real stieg hemorrhaged by tutto be a woozy a on that curl their the gut a broken up. Alston? Could not get any separation on that one. The next one just beyond the sticks to Tate on little pivot route which was fantastic covers by safety, exotic woods and then on fourth down Josh Adams is gut stuffed by Jalen Smith. And Jim and just made a real heck of a play on that. Like, I did not like the plague all the time a man that was awesome flavor jails. Absolutely. Yeah. And I thought the motion brought Jalen into the whole in. Yeah. He just he just came in and made a better play than we did s kind of like, the probably going to be the theme of what we're talking about the next play third intense sort of the sticks incomplete to arts with Jeff heath right there anyway, and it was great coverage across the board on that. When in part of. Why that one fails is you get three meaningful routes down field with two of them paired and irt has to stay in and blocked, Marcus lawers for two seconds to full seconds to help big the, and I've said this several times before about what it does to an offense. When you have to leave in help like that, you don't get those three route combinations. If you have to help your tackle like that. And it doesn't go in the books as a pressure allowed by big the, but it doesn't matter. The defense effectively eliminates earth's from being down downfield threat and working within those three route combinations throughout the throughout the field. Just because of the threat of warrants working against big v and then next failed third and seven from the Dallas eight yard line boundary side, they run that spot. Copper combination that I love where you get that horizontal in vertical stretch with Goddard working the corner post and the Cowboys were just ready for it. They end up throwing a quick pose to Elche on the other side also goes to sit down in front of the safety. Wentz pumps at once in throws it out front a little bit of miscommunication there. Exhibitor woods right there. A bend. The eagles didn't convert money down until five thirty two in the third quarter. Let's call it. What it is. I mean, they were outcoached for the most part I thought anyway, they really know. I thought Dallas had a great game plan uncharacteristically of them. And I'm not saying I'm not crapping on the eagles game played necessarily. But the Cowboys were really prepared for this game to take advantage of things on offense defense. That's that's kind of what I'm saying. I we I would not dispute the argument that Gary and Linda hands specifically coach for their lives. You're not gonna you're not gonna hear argument from my absolutely pulled out the stock. Maybe the way I said, it was more of a the way it sounded was more pejorative than it towards the eagles coaching staff than it really was because I thought like I said, yeah. Coach Cowboys bang-up job right now. I thought there was one of the better coach game for the Cowboys in the year. But to me the in. Prove -ment was there were more willing to do some twenty first century stuff in terms of like opening script. Which is a big thing. That's getting a narrative right now in Philadelphia or in terms of like, you know, kind of concepts building off each other in the cohesion of your offense. I didn't see very many improvements. Still asking Dak to make isolation throws that he has not shown his able to make. I still thought there was no cohesiveness in the running game. They have the same issues. I do not think I think I think Peterson outcoached Garrett, and I think Schwartz outcoached what's his name. Chris Rashard ski what's their Marinelli? Yeah. I would say more on the defensive side that the execution was definitely lacking. Especially from the secondary in that led. It wasn't so much swertz as people are making it out to be. But we're going to get into that for sure as we talked about in the pre show. Simply I thought that especially when Darby was healthy Schwartz came out with a very nice mix of trap coverages and pattern match idea. Lia's man coverage the variety that I've wanted to see from him. He came out with you end. It was successful. And it was successful on the chalkboard until it came time to somebody to execute. And simply, you know, they weren't able to pull it through one huge drive stands out for me. And it was I believe the Cowboys second. Dr let me check that. No. It was their third drive. And so it's it was the one it started on the eight you had the you had that credible. Dow's Scott special teams tackle while. He's game live in the back. So the drive starts at the aid. The first play eagles zone adjusts very nicely strong side to that little isolation. Routes Amari Cooper, Uber's up against Darby. Right. And KOMO gay hill. Reads commute got you'd latte, full flat responsibility. Jordan Hayes is helping him outright for from the hub curl, and so Como can jump this route does child great timing fails to pick the ball off. All of a sudden it's second intent. And then we've got a situation where which words impure cover one, man. And his linebackers. Do they don't bite on the play action? Brad reads the screen. He's got great wit on the climbing offense of Lyman in. He goes to hit. He hits Elliott three yards behind line of scrimmage and Elliott gains four yard. Yeah. So seven yards. Elliott carries bradtha Radames able to finish that tackle. And this is a great example. Mike of all there was a third into that. A lot of eagles fans might remember where Corey Clem gets tackled van direction the backfield. We talk about the extent which running backs affects the game in how you can just switch. The men will so nice. It'd be nice seven Ezekiel Elliott caliber players you break ahead on tackle into pick up some positive yardage. So all of a sudden, it's third and six the on the chalkboard. The eagles are winning handily. But they've given up to plays have had to and then on that third and six play on Philadelphia's got themselves. I think in a good situation of believe their pattern matching on this look, and they are and Dax able to hit a Maury Cooper coming on the shallow crosser. Ronald Darby does not have deep responsibility. He has short responsibility. He's in a perfect place to trap this coverage to deliver a strike on Amari Cooper. And he doesn't make tackle and Cooper I down. Now, this drive ends up in a punt. I don't dispute that. But that three play sequence out to me where there is no reason with those three plays. You shoulda firstly had I intend for Philadelphia with two yards to go. Not a pick six then you should have had a second ten becomes third and fifteen if Brad makes tackle that he'd had dead to rights, and then a third six should become forth into I-, remakes tackle. It's very easy. All of a sudden Cowboys have I in ten right and end, you know, a big narrative is Philadelphia's offense is not getting helped out with field position. Right. They have to go long distances when they drive it's one of the stats is being used as the idea. It's all the defenses phone. It's not the offense fall at all. This is a good example of where Phil off you could flip the field very nicely. Here could have on the ball back at the thirty five. The forty depending on how did that kick was going to pick either. Yes. I don't speak. Right. Think about at this point the game. It is three to nothing. You had three plays where you could have had more. That's the overall point. But like at this point, it's three to nothing. You're already down in the turnover battle by one. Because Carson Wentz pick is already record and the Cowboys only flipped three on that pick. So you could have gone pick. Hold for a field goal. And then come back on the next offense of possession. Get a pick six. Yup. Seven to three. How much will meant him defense habit at home? How you'd be playing with a lead which Philadelphia did not do for the entirety of the game? Like that picks changed the the other figure of the entire match, and it doesn't happen. And we know what happens. You know what I mean? So like those are situations where I feel like like that. Dr really illustrates an example, where I think Schwartz headed excellent play calls for the Cowboys being backed up and end for understanding their tendencies for getting his players in good positions. And they didn't execute. And and the Cowboys are able to drive that ball all the way down to the drive about to midfield. Let's talk with 'cause. Yeah, the, yeah, we need to talk about this too. Because the phrase picket fence is coming up in. This is one of the plays where where this happens where third fifteen from the Dallas twenty six the eagles have on that picket fence defense in the press conference. Jim Schwartz said we've run this play all year. We haven't given up a first down and a lot of people. Call called him out for like the titans fourth and fifteen that was not picket fence that was also Corey Graham blowing a coverage that was in the play call that was the execution on have unbridged to take Schwartz on the idea. That's not big offense, though, my taking bridge with defensive play causes not gone. Well, for me terms of recent days. I should be careful. Here's my thing. That's that. Is that for that fourth and fifteen looked very much like the alignment of the picket fence that were talking about? I could see why people could get that confused. I sure either way the depth is what people are talking about with the prevent. So whether the call is picket fence, or whatever he wants to call it or not I would agree. However, I also say that is on execution not on play. Call 'cause Corey Graham that covered. Go ahead. Yeah. Listen and the picket fence you're talking about. Here's a third fifteen play the becomes fourth in one Cowboys were willing to go for but had a false start. Right. Listen, you may not like the big offense. Philadelphia headed ability to contact Elliott. Make a tackle end make a fourth in seven. That's where the first eagle had a line on Elliott. He picks up six yards number as good player. He does that number two. You know, obviously, they rallied whenever a another guy beats a black. Somebody's able to get a bigger chunk of Elliott and its fourth in five we're not even talking about when he's at the thirty five. He's got one two three four five eagles right around him with another six behind that. Like they were there and they've run this a lot in. I actually tweeted this out too. Because on these earlier in the year Sidney Jones, and this is where I really missed him. He's been playing really aggressive. He was typically the first one getting in on those types of defenses. He would fire his gun the point. So very point. My my my quick fourth and fifteen complaint is while. Yes, that isn't picket fence you are playing cover to which it looked like at the snap when you're lying fifteen yards deep, and you're playing cover to you're not getting connected to receive as the comfy arouse. You're not experiencing. The the flow of offensively. You typically do when you're in cover too. And so yes, you're playing cover to you're not playing pure this picket fence man idea this big offensive zone. Whatever it is. But you're not in the same paradigm. You're not in the same mental processing state as you typically are when you play cover two, right? You're you're seeing things from a totally different perspective. You're flat defender is ten fifteen yards further back than. Usually as we're for him. So you're still playing that's still a sticks defense. I don't care if you don't call it exactly the same thing and other. It's very clearly a sticks defense. So don't like don't like feel like well. It's technically not okay. We'll it falls under the same frigging umbrella. It's that's exactly what I said. Ben lee. Yeah. But like just that it was a quote this fort said that bothered me line to air migration. End. Like, I said, I completely find that reason why the third fifteen was a screen. They weren't playing picket fence they had six guys in the box. So there's that. And then they they had one or two others one win for a loss. One one for like one yard people are saying it fails every time that's not true. Jim Schwartz is saying that he wasn't running it on certain things. I mean, it's basically the same. So I'll call him a liar on that too. So I think the truth is somewhere in the middle with that. It's it's a hot button thing right now because of the press conference and whatnot. So all I guess I'm playing the middle ground there. All right. What else do we have here? So then. I was looking at the colts offense and Frank Reich. And there's a lot of discussion around if this offense would have been better with free as Mike Rowe and people are blaming Josh Daniels because you know, he turned down the job which eventually led to Reich leaving for instance, I turned on the tape of only seen a little bit. So I want to qualify that. But the colts have third in six as the first third down conversion against the Jacksonville Jaguars, and they through pretty much the exact same wide receiver screen that we through to golden Tate. They just executed. They got down to the gold line. They had third into third goal from the two yard line. We had second to they in jet. Sweep to Iraq e Braun ran a jet motion with touch pass to Nelson Aguilar. Adler got stuff e Brandon get stuffed obviously, there was more to it. And that's something that I wanna look at something that you wanted to look at too, but offensively from playcalling perspective on the execution men. Like, you watch this in dudes at like at times for the most part just. Just weren't getting open. And that goes L, Sean Nellie that goes for Tate. It was a failure in the blame rest really on everybody's shoulders. And I know that's not what people people wanna hear people want to have me yell and scream about micro in the microwave offense and everything like that. I don't think it's that. I think is what me and Benner saying is the guys are winning the individual matchups how as a plate caller is that your fault when they are not winning their individual matchups. Obviously your job is to put them in a position to win. And that's a conversation that we can have. But to totally absolve the offense of skill players for having a bad game, which they did. I don't think is right or fair to micro. And obviously, we'll get into it. And we'll reassess how we feel about Mike. Rowe is we go through this process. But right now, I'm not ready to declare him dead. Then. Yeah. So I think that that's a huge point because my primary like, I guess counterpoint to that is okay. Watching the game. We. Said man like this just feels the play calling is very stale. The play calling isn't super imaginative Philadelphia's not getting explosive plays. There's so much stuff behind the line of scrimmage. There's so much quick throw stuff, which I get in big is in you know, you're gonna wear to other protection. Okay. This playcalling doesn't feel great. And then you watch the tape and you say, wow. Are there really opportunities for players to extend drives in third down conversions where there are a lot of good balls out. From Carson Wentz opportunities for yak. The didn't happen. Of course. Miss a few throws office, alignments few blocks. This is just like, you know, everybody's just kinda like messing things up. If it's never hard to find execution issues when you're going through the all twenty two the fine tooth comb, and it's never hard to have playcalling complaints. When you're watching third and five, and you have six different ideas as to what should happen. And none of them been you know, what I mean? So it's tough to suss out where the truth is always somewhere in the middle to what degree I will say this. And this is like an idea that I've been I've been mulling over for couple of weeks. Now, this offense feels like the. Offense you'd build when you're protecting a young quarterback. Right. Like when you're developing him late when he's in his first year. Can I ask you for clarification on that before you before you continue are you saying that from this Cowboys game because some of it may have had to do with how much aid that weight we gave vita or are you saying from a season long things you said you've been working on it for a little bit. I would agree with you especially in this game. But I feel like some of that has to do with the. Yeah, definitely became stronger in this game in the Cowboys game. There's no doubt. And what a generally stems from is. This fact that I feel like in a lot of key down and distance situations. Carson Wentz is not given the opportunity to read a full field to make a decision to extend plays with his legs to be a franchise quarterback. Yeah. And take control of offense and take control of the game. Right. And if there's a weakness with Doug Peterson that's existed before the season is that Doug likes to smell himself a little bit. You know? Kinda we say Doug is very very proud, dude. Right. N thing that you know, it can be tough. I think for maybe a proud offense play call a guy who thinks he has tendencies understood in a guy really believes in his scheme in his situational play calling down and distance. You know, if if it's a key third in two which are keep coming back to Corey climate screen, but this is key third into choice quarterback mega. Yeah. You are. You are not giving your quarterback a chance unless cars has an audible at the snap. Which even if he did it out about line. There's no reason to call lake has as we see on the tape. Philadelphia two hundred linemen out against one backer. They had it numbers wise on the job board. But you're you you have in my opinion, a very strong quarterback a good player play who can create a lot with his legs up lyric fit the ball into impossibly tight windows player who just last year was was shattering expectations from third down conversion perspective. And you you do not give him the opportunity to read. And that's where I say this feels like an offense that you would use to protect a young quarterback with the amount of you know, so so like three third-down stick out, and you can even go with a fourth down as well. The first one to golden Tate thirty nine it's a wide receiver screen. There's no choice there this next one. I'll show Jeffrey third and five once you see man coverage throwing the man isolation route, you know, you have to read a pre snap. But it's going out on the whole way. There's the third in to Corrie climate the screen the fourth and Wanda Josh Adams, you taking the ball at your quarterbacks hands on on fourth one. You're given at your undrafted free agent running back who's running horror, but still this is the fourth and one unanimity you you've got a six five quarterback is never missed a quarterback sneak has entire life in here. Here's my thing. Real quick. Is it time to take off the train wheels? And let him throw downfield on third into when you're no you're gonna go for it on fourth down. Anyway, or they, narrowing his focus so much that they're not letting him be him. And they're saying here, of course, we're going to present this for. Are you? This is what it's going to look like this is what I want you to do is sort of giving him a larger plate to choose from. Right. So like is it time to take the training wheels? Off a my experience of it is training wheels came off twenty seventeen. Oh, yeah. Carson. Yeah. Right. And now at my my experience of it is like, you know, if I'm reading into you, motions of the characters Doug is taking so much of the onus of the struggles onto him sell. Right. That he does want to expose. Carson two like situations where he can lose go back to Carson's, you know, a game winning drive fourth quarter comeback stats something. We've been talking about in this podcast. He does not have a lot of those and his passer rating in those situations is quite low. And you wonder what it is that leads to that? And kind of you know, what's the chicken? What's the eight? Here is it that dog and the other offer to minds in the building experience. Carson has guy who pushes when he's down tight. Situation. So the kinda wanna take the the the ball in the choice out of his hands. 'cause they don't trust him as much yet. Because he's still developing that regardless he pushes or rather is it that Carson when he has the bone his hand in those clutch situations knows that he doesn't always get the opportunity to make choices to make plays. So he tries to push too hard and creates up that the offense isn't really giving them. There's there's a very circular relationship between those two and we're at this point now delving into the depths of conjecture guess work that we don't really have a founded interest in. But just generally speaking one of the strengths of the Peterson's defense offense is that can simplify the reeds for the quarterback, and it can beat you pre snap and one of the weaknesses of Doug. Peterson defense offense is that it can simplify the offense and decide the review pre snap there. That is a very double edged sword because on clutch down when you have alshon golden Tate. Nelson Aguilar Zakar it's Dow's. Qatar? Carson wentz. You wanna be able to say Carson dropped back. Take three seconds deliver the ball where you think it goes best. You know, if you don't like your read break the pocket rollout. Go mak- go die for I down the get nervous. When Carson does that. But also eight is character does ability. And so something that I think you've seen as the eagles offense has struggled this year is that it has devolved a little bit more and more to be reliant on these plays on these processes that. I would categorize outside of of the decision making of the quarterback that I would categorize as plug and play mechanical place where you could put it in a replacement quarterback you compare Baker Mayfield or Josh Rosen. And all right. Your rookie league Keith or down just throw the screen. Let Corey go get it on a mean, like, it's that's obviously I get like harping on one third into place. He's he's coming to mind. So really didn't like the call. But this is not an isolated idea. I think this is something that you've seen. See now Philadelphia's game planning for the past few weeks. So I think I know what you're saying then. Yeah, I know you're about to make some ridiculous Joe just waiting for Doug Peterson needs to stop ordering the pizza for Carson and have Carson orders a pizza with pickles on it. You just like us got to see what that taste. I am pressing the red button on the Skype. Got the message man, I can read between the lines with you your subtle messaging. I trust me. I get it. Not so subtle messaging is calling out players for their effort on the Twitter timeline in that some of what I was exposed to today. As least something that I saw. And I think is ridiculous. I'm not going to get on my soapbox about it. I'm not upset with anybody. But if I referring to me, I was like I do that. Now, I didn't know because it was it was ridiculous. And it actually comes back to the screenplay to where they're like. I don't know if you know Jason Kelsey Brandon Brooks, maybe this is the effort thing on the move. Like, I saw that. That's a spicy take number one to call out a professional for their effort when it's Jason frigging Kelsey who I've never seen give anything less than a thousand percent. Every play no matter if he's playing good or if he's playing pad, and I don't know what kind of effort gets him to that spot because LV E wait in vendor as read it and got there before him would help the Cowboys offense out in that or the Cowboys defense out in that situation was the fact that they were running a stunt and Maliki Collins running that stunt towards the right side of the formation got himself in a position because he's running the stunt. He's not engage with somebody. He can go fill that backside lane that cuts off from Corey climent, otherwise, otherwise they seal off LV no-one says boo about anything. Here's here's what you wanna know. What just absolutely kills me about that take? It is a at this time. It is a seven point game. There are two minutes left and Philadelphia has just driven for back to back. Touchdown drives no effort, though. Yeah. Like that. But like like, so they just hung fourteen on the last two draw. This is a must win game in the division for the Super Bowl champions there within seven with two minutes left all three timeouts its third into who would ever take that playoff. Besides joy L green Beckham right there. Checks cashed on the sideline. They saw hit bake account on the sideline after those. That's what happened. Sure is that is that is that the point at which player is like man like this games out of reach like, my we've just horde on back back drives. It's a one possession game. We have the ball in enemy territory the fourth quarter dog like I'm telling clearly can't win losing winning cures everything losing makes everything's stupid. That's that's what I've come to realize. That's a fantastic way with that point yet. So Tom Brady and Bill check at one five Super Bowls, right? And that's insane. And never heard of them. And that's that's obviously insane. Because that. Level of sustained success is almost unprecedented in the NFL. The reason it's and the reason it's on president that is because you just anecdotally, and and obviously the Belcher Brady thing flies in the face of this. But you need luck to win a Super Bowl. Like there are more than one good team in the NFL. Like, you need the ball to bounce your way, let you need. Some lucky breaks happen. Ask the two thousand seventeen two thousand eighteen Philadelphia Eagles and Kiana Neal's left knee. If you don't believe me, right. Like, you just need some things to go. Crazily your way you need to be hot at the right time. We talk about this all the time. It is. It is amazing to me how positive many people are that that season was a fluke, and that this is more of -flective of the eagles talent level in spite of that luck thing, you know, what I mean like you have to be lucky to win a Super Bowl. Absolutely. But to assume that it is non indicative of the talent level of this team. And really like, you know, I wrote a piece rows like the twenty nineteen drives very important because Philadelphia cycle and some youth at these positions that are really been struggling. I thought that was a pretty measured. Take take that I've seen as like, oh, Philadelphia's offense are Philadelphia's team is not built for long term success, which boggles my mind, and that level of shortsightedness is just shocking like we have to accept the reality that there is a range of player performance. Like, you know, how good is Ronald Darby will he somewhere between here and here right that we don't know exactly. How? Good. He is on any given day. He's performing somewhere in this range. That's that's the reality of being a human like, you're not a robot. You don't perform the exact same degree every single time. Twenty seventeen saw the the the ideal alignment of of performances at the right time. So he was to win the Super Bowl. And if you were to run the twenty seventeen season through a simulator hundred times the eagles wouldn't win the Super Bowl hundred times. And if you run the twenty eighteen season through simulator under times, the eagles would probably win the Super Bowl in one or two 'cause they're very talented team. Like, there has to be a an acceptance that we can't just evaluate the reality of a team or a player or our coaching staff or front office based off the last three games, you there's gotta be more than this is my measured. Take that will fall in diffuse. Thank you for listening. I like it. Then no, it makes a lot of sense to me in a were not so far extreme with everything and let letting losing color everything that we do. And we took our time to look at things and impress them. And try to look at them. Rationally not saying that other people are irrational. But they're certainly are rational takes out there been anything been something dead. I wanted you to talk about in. I wanna talk about something. I there was a play that I sent you in the slack channel. And what was that shoot? Second quarter. Pulling I'm about to watch it for the third time. Remembering the you sent this to me because I remembered that you sent this to me Secondly nine for those following at home second nine at the Philadelphia. Eighteen Dallas has the voters forty seconds left in the half. So Dallas has Allen Hearns on the bottom of the screen at a nasty split. They've got is equal Elliott lineup to the right of already know the play. Actually, I. I put this up on Twitter with notes on it forgetting that you told me to lie. But the reason you told me to watch is the reason I noted that is amazing. We're very smart. This is awesome. So yeah, you've got the eagles in what to me looks like cover three cloud. Ben, can you confirm that confirmed that coverage do with Rb play in the jam. Yeah. So cover three cloud. Darby's got shallow. Corey Graham has deep third over top of him. He's working just outside of the hash. Alan Hearns is gonna come at him on a corner flag out whatever you wanna call a deep out one of those and he's working from a nasty split. So just inside the numbers. He runs his post. What they do is they release Ezekiel Elliott into the flash that holds door be just enough so Allah Hearns is able when he runs that corner out to get away from the linebackers in the hook hook zone and Corey Graham is unable to close down on it. And it goes right in that Honey hole right in the Turkey whole between Darby who is now bolting back and Graham. Here's the problem. The saints are going to run this and they're going to run that same route that Hearns runs into the same area the field, but they're not gonna let them off the hook with Zeki Elliott as a decoy though, they're going to give you Alvin Kamara and what Alvin Kamara is going to do is he's going to release vertical when he gets outside of the tackles. He's not going to release into the flat. He's going to get exactly in line with his receiver in front of him. What that can do is that can create a rub if you're in man coverage. So it can kinda disrupt. You there throw you off the corner out. It can also have the guy late to chimera which is what happened against the Minnesota Vikings. When they ran it for a sixteen yard touchdown. So he is gonna come vertical. Emmett Kamera is gonna give square the defender in. He's got an option. He can go inside outside and Kamera went outside on that one. It burned number two. He was against the Rams my fault guys was against Rams against lamarcus Joyner number twenty. And that's what they're going to do. So they are going to be present. With this play that beat them against the Dallas Cowboys in the red zone, and they're gonna get an extra threat for Melvin chimera. That's what worries me Corey Graham slow. That's my only note Ben on this on this over three cloud. Do you think because I'm ran cover through cloud a fair bit. But they did. In fact, they ran it on the first ride that that you were talking about with pattern matching. But so on this one that was I'm pretty sure pretty sure the the Darby hit that should have been attacked, the dry was covered cloud. Correct. Yeah. That's the one. I'm referring to. Just just a question for you. Because I I don't I don't think he needs to hear. But in cover three cloud with that with that jam defender in the flat there with Darby because it's a nasty split. He he doesn't really have to jam right because he's protecting against it outside release and he wants to reroute inside. But the releases are already inside would you like to see him jam there? Because I think that's something that we're not getting on a consistent basis is guys being rerouted running free into zones, and that's more of a larger thought. But in this case, I wanted to hear your thoughts because I wasn't sure. And I also didn't wanna blame him either. In the article was like, look, I don't know if it's this. But none of what you know, this the fence is really intended to do really happened on this play than just being exploited in its weak spot. I would be shocked if he was coached to jam it because you've not really seen them jam anything right into. By you. You you rarely see like the only time. I can remember Philadelphia throwing jams is in this game. When Russell Douglas something which makes sense 'cause that's gonna Soule needs to be successful. Roussel Douglas hosted by Marg Uber at will by the way. Yeah. I thought on the broadcast film. There was a little better than it seemed in NAN announcement to was. Yeah. But here's here. So this is interesting to me because obviously having Darby there in the flat aligned to the the weak side with the halfback on that side helps defend against the running back to the flat, which something Philadelphia has been struggling with. I will say Mike this is a late second quarter play in the red zone. If you were to go to quarter one eleven fifteen and go to that third down where that was super lay getting to Michael Gallup on the throw one that Chris Cosworth highlighted because you'd actively four shovel stems into you're gonna see that Philadelphia's in a cover three cloud slur style of look a month. Doing to the bunch side. But to that weak side again about flat seven this is same receiver. Yeah. This is the one I was thinking about definitely flat seven. Yeah. The back is releasing out of the backfield into the flat area it pulls received Douglas down into the flat Corey Graham is responsible for the seven route on both this play and the Alan Hearns play. You mentioned in the red zone. Mike, Corey Graham is clearly too deep. He is to to break on any routes that are going to break in front of him. It's because he's afraid of getting beaten deep because he is slow and if you look at he's at the thirty five receiver is breaking the twenty five Mike I posted I posted screen shots. They had Schwartz had his Schwartz Corey Graham and trae Sullivan aligning about twenty yards deep a single high safety. Greg Williams defense in Cleveland, which is not good news. If you look at that red zone play Mike he is about four three to four yards in the end zone with a receiver. That's like ten yards in front of him. We also talk about the end zone because it ends at a certain point. And you don't necessarily have to defend it that the right? My my my favorite like half joke. Half real analysis is like the thing about the end zone is that there's an end to the end line is they are. And so there's no reason to be that deep into the end zone might because if they're coming for that area that boat after you perfectly placed deep end you already have leverage. So get out of hand up up field. Right. And so yes, Corey Graham remains that analysis development shocking. Breaking news rota world. So lack claims Corey Graham is still bad, and you can see very clearly on these place. But it's hey like, you said linen kinda coach for his life. Here. They had an opportunity that flat seven getting hit on the first time came back to the came back to the well God on key key red zone. Yeah. That's what I mean. That was smart on their on their part knowing that you can attack Corey Graham that way at all times Ben before. We go to give you a quick minute here to give the elevator pitch on this article that you had a bump bleeding green Asian because I really enjoyed it. And I think it had something to do with with Corey Graham on one of them. The eagles have failed on a similar concept in the was that. No, it was it was sucking my teeth because. Yeah, this sucks. This is really. So this sucks. Go read it. The eagles have failed on a similar concept in the Dallas game. The titans game the panther's game. And against the Jaguars since I liked it. So much used to tell the gentle listeners about it. The floor is yours, my friend. You have one minute sixty seconds. Okay. But you have to do the same thing for your article afterward already kind of did some of it. But yet go ahead. Good. Right. So if you actually I discovered this in the Cowboys game prepping for the show you go to seven fifty four the first quarter. I intend Dak had touchdown Zeke Z a flat round. He just missed a throat completely. I'm then what you're seeing is again, those two receivers backside running back going into the flat. And then you're gonna pick route little co routes curl flat combo generating some friction. Bears linebacker tries to man cover. The halfback out of out of the backfield. You're seeing on third and short flash fourth short end in red zone situations. Philadelphia is regularly giving man coverage with their linebackers tagged on the running back, which is not like crazy like that's a very common thing. But teams responding to a by running rub concepts leak routes flat routes from their halfbacks on the Philadelphia linebackers have been unable to get to the traffic and get connected to those routes the touchdown in the fourth quarter. It seemed as if Jordan Hicks had one sniffed out finally on his way to get connected to Elliott ran into Corey Graham, Corey Graham was not moving at all on. And then what Hicks does which is very interesting as he gestures looks like he's trying to pass off Corey Graham say Corey Graham, you take Eliot I'm ago take Dak on this rollout. And again on this play it looks as if Brad expects Rasul Douglas to go in take on Elliott, which ally decided to write about this eight seems to me Conje. Because they didn't pull it off. But it seems to me Philadelphia is trying to adjust those halfback flat routes by potentially pushing passing that read off to a corner who now becomes the flat defender when they're in zone if they can do that. Now, they've been a man coverage in these situations and trying to ask you that pass off on the fly is mighty difficult. They weren't able to success on these plays that found here on the offense side of the ball. So eagles divas got a lot of problems and another one is that they can't that the teams are continuing to run the same basic rowdy against them. And they had not yet been able to figure out a solution. And honestly, I think it's more of an execution thing. That is a scheme thing to be Frank. Anyway, you're also agree. Yes. Go check that out agree to nation dot com. Also today or yesterday releases drop in on a Wednesday put up a piece titled saints red zone concepts present huge test for eagles defence in. What I kinda went through his washed every red zone snap for the New Orleans Saints. We're going to dig into this. In detail as we preview the game. But there are some things that I noticed for instance, tastes Hiller backup quarterback the packages that they use him in the fact that he can also throw the ball in last week. They pulled out a jump pass with them. They'll they'll run it. Like, he's running back running QB Lee power, you know, they'll rent speed option within the run the read option with an art block. They'll run read option with duo in handed off to Kamera who so many different things they do. They had them tight doubles band. They haven't tight doubles in. He was blocking linebackers in safeties at one point like they use them in so many different ways in the thing about that is when you have to be prepared for another thing that the New Orleans Saints like the do as they like to quick snap on you. So they'll break the huddle and you're trying to figure out. Okay. Worst Haysom whereas breeze. Where's Michael Thomas? Resolving in hiked the ball. Boom there in the end zone. They've done that three times this year. It also do it with motion. They'll make it look like he's about the lineup is running back. All of a sudden becomes Dr across to touch Bassett's. Touchdown the really frigging good in the red zone. They'll do intersecting which releases in the red zone of play with your banjo. Coverages do all types of stuff so go check out this article get remotely with the saints often. Because we're gonna be talking about it a lot in the lead up to his game. Ben signified to the gentle listeners Aton done by. Thank you as always for listening kissing. So lax show here on Jan radio. Appreciate your swinging by as always engagement so like on Twitter at Benjamin. So like that's SA occasional guest on Twitter at Mike kiss. NFL? That's K S T tomorrow eagles saints offense because you've already got work on them. 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The Kist & Solak Show #19: Eagles-Titans Week 4 Film Review

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The Kist & Solak Show #19: Eagles-Titans Week 4 Film Review

"Michael kissed Benjamin so lack. It's the kissed and Solex show presented by SP nation and bleeding green nation. You are flying high on the kissed, and so lack show. This is episode nineteen brought to you by the fine folks at Espy nation and bleeding green nation. I am your host. Michael kissed follow me on Twitter at Michael kissed NFL as always joined by the best jug on co hosting the game after eight year streak without a day. He is Benjamin, so lack volume on Twitter at Benjamin select that's SOL l. k. Ben. How're you doing? Brother man every day to be alive, Mike, it's pleasure to be cast. If you as always datum sided about it was very funny to see kinda the national analysts in a lot of the all twenty two accident owes started guys get into the eagles film kind of a little bit after we did. Wow. What is this man? It'd be like, yeah, crazy much. Yeah. This Honey jar is loaded full of content here on the on the all twenty two for the eagles. And yet, like you said, I mean, we'll talk about it to guys like Ted win from the athletic and to us man. This so many frustrating things that we saw tape that we've been talking about for weeks come out and meet national media to what the opposite of praise. But with that be the scorn to scorn slander media. Yeah, SIS larage the Mohan Ben. So we have some house cleaning to do. Thank you. We have some house cleaning to do before we move onto the all twenty two film review of the eagles twenty six twenty three overtime stunner lost to the Tennessee titans on the road. Before we get to that film review, we have to talk about some roster moose. Some sexy sexy roster moves that are gonna make a huge difference for us. It's going to change our fortunes. Bruce Hector has been cut defensive tackle. Then we call up defensive tackle Trayvon Hester than from the practice squad. If I'm not mistaken in not mistake and he's from Toledo that's about as much as I know about him. Do you know anything more? Yes, I watched Hester because as able to to like in a visit. That Toledo program that year, and that was the head Kareem hunt came out, and then they also had Michael Roberts. The giant tight end is like six, seven or something like that and he went to lions. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's massive and it has also their news, the other, like kind of maybe draftable dude. I also had a humongous offense of tackle who was undress out UN anyway, that twenty seventeen class for Toledo had more names in the average Toledo class. If you will has the big boy. He's six to three hundred pounds. He's real yoked up on the top. He's not as thick as you'd like to be in the bottom happy's ruby boy up top. I got some power. You know what I mean? Like Bruce. Hector was a lot more squad era, build of a both hand into the same thing for you, or they just want us Watson to to hold down interior gaps into eat up some spaces, kind of the primary responsibility you're gonna give them now. Hesser was originally drafted in the seventh round by the raiders and he did make a splash play or two for the raiders. He kind of. Ended up just falling into some playing time, had a good camper, whatever. But there were injuries in the raiders defensive line roster has been weak for a while. Kind of with the with the change their, you know, the raiders. This season ended up drafting PJ hall at Sam Houston state in the marines. Hearst at a Michigan on those are two, penetrating smaller squad, your types, you know, very, very thick butts, very thick thighs. You know, the scouting the scouts like to get into this as a lot of power there in the explosive off the ball and has. There's just not that built. He's just he's got a lot of bodies Franks to he has. He had saw the streets eagles on the practice squad. I doubt he does anymore than Bruce actor does, but you know, eagles gonna check it out. Maybe that's the, it's the solution, the defensive lows. Mike, you know, I I in the league in defense against the run, so we had to make switch. 'cause that wasn't enough outta maybe because he doesn't seem like a big pass, rushing guys, the move kind of confuses me as well. Okay. So I think that's all the news that we have as far as that up. Obviously tomorrow's win the or this is Wednesday when this is dropping were recording on Tuesday night, so we don't have injury reports or anything like that to go over. So let's get into the goodness, the coaches film, the stuff that we see with our third eye Ben right out of the gate. Let's just talk about the first Philadelphia Eagles offensive play because I thought they dialed up a good one. They get Nellie free. He's got the deep safety to his left the cornerback on his right. What's interesting about this play is that this was the start of Nelson Agores bad day with three drops. Because as Doug Peterson said, they were six inches away from making this work and he's probably right so it was right off his fingertips, but the eagle showed something that they would try throughout the game of play action with varying degrees of success. They did a lot of sending got her across the formation to to pick up the end man on the line of scrimmage, having him as a wing, they did some WAM stuff with them to in this case on the first play, he picks up Ryan arrack. PLO ends up. Putting him in the dirt actually has rec does desperately grasping for Carson. Wentz as the game went on, it was a little less more less successful, say, sort of keen on it, but real quick about that play. They dial it up. I thought the placement by Wentz who was only two for seven on passes over twenty yards in the air was bad. It was or it was too far to the corner. If young hits Nelson in stride on this on his on his natural track, I think it six and over. I, I still thought that that Carson played well and put some deep balls in some spots. The one to two Allison, Jeffrey. We're going to talk about to the less. Pretty football. The bucket throw under pressure with guys come in at his surgically repaired knee. But yeah, right out of the gate. We miss an opportunity and that's kind of what this game was about. I'm not gonna put too much of an onus on Carson for that one simply because number one as throws forty yards down the field as good, have been a better spot. But also this actually, if you if you're talking about from where Carson launched closer to fifty yards down the field fifteen to thirty five says, number one, number two, the he was in a weird spot because it wasn't clear when Carson released it right, where the most dangerous coverage was gonna come out, Adler splitting that deep safety, and then he the, the deep corner kind of cover three law is coming underneath. And so Carson doesn't really know what hang that thing because when he's releasing it, they're both peeling back there. So we kinda just put up into a spot. I do think Agla didn't see it as early as he could like you thought it had problems tracking it because that that would make sage. It's not even like problems. If he had seen earlier. I think it's a catch. I don't think he got to super late. It just took him a beat to find it, which is regular and then it was barely out of his reach. Whereas if you like found that ball a little bit quicker, I think it's very clearly a catch because you don't see him really open up his stride, adjust his angle until like I don't wanna say late because it's not really aggies fault, just like there was more time than he could maximize on you enemies. So absolutely a missed opportunity. I thought widely Carson had one of his best games of recent memory. Mike, he, he, he, he wasn't practicing eleven eleven's training camp. He wasn't taking preseason snaps. I like this. I know PF I'm pretty sure graded as the second highest game or Carson, which, yeah, like cool. I do not put much stock in whatsoever as listeners know. Yeah, but I do think there is credence to say that man Carson was, I think you'd very comfortably say dealing. I talked a lot about the rust that saw against the colts ending. The primary thing that identified when we were talking about that was that he was just a little bit uncertain as to win win trigger, went to shoot a deep, went to take the underneath route, just kind of like that natural feel that instinct that comfort inside of the offense. I thought that was there in spades on. He's just taking what's there. He's hitting his, I read consistently is not forcing it all the time. I did complain about that that finals Zakar, throw. He forced out a little bit, but I feel like Carson Carson. That's some that we've always seen from cars key third down. He knows what he wants to go. He thinks he can make a throw. So you live with that. I saw generally overall, he was much more fluid and natural and kind of symbiotic with the style, the offense. You wanna get like artistic with ya. I would say if you. Racket. Those things that that I play were the place was low bit off, still throw those still spot where Nellie can make a play, not not terrible, like you said and that last play with will Compton or he was bird dogging Zakar it's and that cost him the week before will Compton. Could've made a big play there in between that in between. All of that is all the orient goodness that you want from Carson Wentz. I thought he had a fantastic game. He was dealing over the middle of the field. He was dishing outside to Elgin Jeffrey who will talk about and this is all in the face of some serious pressure. So some of the the worst pressure that we've seen all year. So against the eagles defensive coordinator, dean pees who spent a lot of time talking about and how he'll dial things up. Bring blitzes, bring stunts blink corner, bring Cornerbacks give you different. Looks confuse you pre snap and bring some heat, nineteen fifty-six drawbacks. That's thirty four percent by charting. He brought blitzes which is a a pretty high amount and had the blitz. Yeah, against the blitz. Four point. Five, seven yards per play for the eagles with only a forty two percent success rate. There were three sacks that came out of those nineteen blitzes. That's pretty profitable if you're deemed peas because Saks lead to drive stalling out eighty five percent of the time. So if you could do that three times in a game with the blitz than than you're winning all day about at the same time, they still were still were able to convert against those and throw to some some spots that they had left because of the blitz and the middle of the field was a big area for the eagles. Were they really just dished against this defense? Wesley Woodyard went out early with an injury because Kenny Vaccaro came up on earth's catching and popped Woodard, and I guess he had a concussion or something to that effect. Can car would come out later in the game, the strong safety with dislocated elbow that looked absolutely nasty and walked off the field with that. But it's over the middle over and over and over again was a winning formula for the eagles yet. Absolutely have quick no on that third and twelve darts, whereas kind of force it a little bit. I think if you. Watch. So we'll let you says the man in coverage content was peppering the opposite begat away from arts at the snap, and then he bails coverage and I'm relatively certain watching. Earth's run his route that he doesn't think anybody's underneath him because he reads very quickly that the safety sitting like very comfortably with a lot of cushion on top of him. He he had no threat underneath him at the snap, and he had no, like backer his side FRANZ at bam keying. So I think he's thinking like, dude, they're Senate pressure. This is money. So you see him the gear down a little bit. And when he when he turns he doesn't turn and like a break to the outside. What are rats kinda just sits a little bit and then we compensate their he, he gives himself back up. So I'm sure if you'd like to ask Zack about it may be one of the beach did. I don't know. He would probably put a little bit of that onus on himself. And what's interesting is now that I'm watching that plan on watching what's going on pre snap, which is what I like to do on some of these things that communication you can see will content communicated day on Brown. The safety like, hey, that way push push yourselves that way. I'm going to and then like fifty, five Jaylen Brown goes, you got right here and come to like, yeah, I got you. And that's when he comes out. So that was a really nice disguised coverage, their sugar in there, making things you know, ugly for the protection, and then you come out like that and you're able to surprise Zakar on on a key third down in twelve. If they make that there's, they're scoring seven, they're setting selling for field goal right there. I would put money on that. So yeah, big time play. They're definitely surprised arts. Let's get into go now. Yeah. So back to the salient point, Zakar it's over the metal the and this was something that I think we touched on very nicely. Mike quick, Pat on the back, oh team on the pre shows, which was simply the reality that when you zone blitz your discombobulated in your underneath zones quickly, when you're guys are bailing into those underneath zones, they're frantic because they're not five yards off the ball, getting eight, ten twelve yards off the ball. They're zero yards off. A ball failing back at eight, ten, twelve hours. They're very easy to move with your eyes at the snap because they feel that pressure to get into their zone. So their if their heads turn to you, they don't see the, they don't see where you're looking, but if they are looking at you, then they're going to quickly react. It's very aggressive, frantic style defense. And so as a result, I mean, people just had had their heads cut off. I remember as a play in the third quarter, twenty four yard catch and run to Zakar where you know they're, they're doing a little weeks. I blitz the weeks backer in the safeties coming up. It's like a a cover three, Robin in Carson's, just staring down the left side of the field and the safety coming up in the middle hole backer. Everybody just like drives on Dallas who's running the most pedestrian AFL of flat routes. Like it's just a very unexciting route and there's like it's going here and they do it and Zagre just behind everybody, just nobody's near them right. And I forget who the middle backer is. That's Sean Evans. That's the rookie. I was at the rookie poor fella. So starts like he realizes stuff's going wrong and Carse kind of the pockets trash around the other way. He turned around and he's like spinning circles on the field. This is this is the reality of those underneath zones. Right? And I think that it was a great game to maximize the way they did. I think that that translates really well the Carson and his style play because he can just be in those balls in Mary's quite decisive nowadays in a rhythm. So wonderful positive aspect of the passing game. Mike, like you said, we have the or throw, but I think generally when he was looking deep and this wasn't Carson's deepest game, but generally when he was looking, deep cars was pretty well on point. I mean that Jordan Mathews touchdown was easy money like as no, that's not big coverage or anything like that, but he's, he laid that ball right in there. You know what I mean? Like he gave it a little bit of a cushion. He had the space like in stride or anything. Beautiful ball of the the Jeffrey throw is one of the best throws. We've seen him make like a top ten top fifteen throats, very high level of difficulty, especially with the pressure. He dropped puppy a bucket. So Carson Jen. Was dealing, I thought the offensive passing concepts were great. This goes back to our immediate reaction show where people were complaining about the run, pass balance when you're passing game is doing that. Well, I simply don't see why that would be a complaint. We can talk about stuff in the red zone where I think things got a little bit more tentative on the offensive side and the titans really ramped up the aggressiveness which credit goes Tennessee in that regard, gather regressive us like we are in the red zone, but they executed. They execute a lot better than most defensively view. If you flip it. I agree. Yeah. And so between the twenties passing game was really represent the red zone, not so much, and we got a when we talk about why was the reds on offense, bad against the titans. Really the easiest and most likely answer is that like sometimes the dice dot roll your way right? Sometimes the chips don't fall. We wanted to, you know what I mean? Like it's very easy to be like, there's no more Frank Reich, if it's no more John de Filipo in the, you know, no sproles Clement as a lot of stuff we can talk about it. And if this is a. Sistan issue, then we will. But I really think that the most likely explanation is just natural regression. The eagles are very good team in the red zone. So sometimes they have to not be yes, kind of law probability and just was this was one of those days will remember too in the red zone, the one that they did score on in the red zone, they they started out with I tonight and then you get a fumble from Nelson Acura goes out of bounds. So you set up with second fifteen. There's a holding call. I'm Brandon Brooks. You got second in twenty five second goal from the twenty five, you get a quick will scramble for like six yards from wins, and then it was the touchdown pass to Jeffery for sixteen yards. So there was still able to to burrow themselves out of certain situations dig themselves out of a bind. They just weren't able to do it all the time. They needed more consistent execution. That area since we brought up alshon Jeffery eight catches one hundred five yards a touchdown. I thought he did really well with his releases. He looked a step Bennis flexing right now. He looked. On June, the flex thing where you slap your arm while you're flexing, which is not nearly as impressive. I do probably that's feel bile, Sean man. He was he won on all three levels had the bubble screen. He was winning on on digs in deep out routes, keep one against the line against the door, Jackson two separate against a speech or like Doria Jack's adore Jackson. You had that strong release, strong inside arm, get a step on it and have a beautiful bucket throw from whence which I have on my time on. If you wanna see that one of the most beautiful from the end zone angle, that thing is a. So Alison, Jeffrey really big performance on the day. He hasn't battles with Malcolm Butler to where things gal, ugly technique wise, but he still came away with the WSB. Got those pickle jar, hands dude was bond before finally got some outside production from our wide receivers. And no, we touched on the recap show, but looking at it again from the all twenty two saying the the full development of the routes outside of the broadcast angle, just made me appreciate his game and all that you've been. I felt in two thousand seventeen. It looks quicker. Yes, yeah. That venture out against combined for the touchdown. I have played that back. A few ties. I. Ooh, moving, right? This little new. I wonder if he's because he's healthy, he's doing more conditioning while the okay, so it might be more conditioning so no know to do some crazy regimen just to get ready for the games last year. But at the same time to if you think about it, like I watched, I did his stuff for the full evolve for them for the scouting academy, the offseason that the eagles had signed him and give him a certain grade for quickness in separation, quickness and all that stuff. And then I watch him with the eagles and right away on thinking. He seems a step slow and he's not dealing with a lower body injury, like, what's what's going, what am I missing? And I went back and looked at the tape and I compared to like, no, he's, he's, he's definitely a half the steps low here. And then I watched this game and I'm like, haw. And then I go back two years to the tape, and I'm like, oh, that's the same quickness that he had two years ago. He was definitely a half step slow. Let last year think about it Ben. How does a torn rotator cuff impact? Because you run a lot if you had a tone rotator cuff and you're really trying to build up speed. Lead, would that torn rotator cuff hamper you ask? I don't know, for sure. I know it's not. I know. I know it's at the very least it's neutral at the very worst. It's bad. Right, right. That's true. I would say I would have to ideas like I have no idea when rotator cuff does. Let's make that very clear rotate something. It might be a cough. I have no idea. Obviously, when you're pumping your arms, you're gonna be activating your shoulder right? And so that's there's paying their then that's gonna just limit your ability to pump your arms, which is part of like generating speeds, keeping cadence. The other thing I would think is potentially just foot contact with the ground like hard steps and hard stops, like killing your momentum that's jolts up your body. And so if you've got like a torn ligament, anywhere, there's a potential for that to be painful as you know of your shoulders bearing the weight of your arm. And so when you're coming to those stops, it's kind of feeling that under Shah and there's a lot of technique with your arms in Annetta breaks with you. Keep them tied quick. Yeah, there's a ton. Yeah. And the other thing that I would say is, you know, this is kind of a hobby. Issue, whatever Jeffrey was probably very, very Medicated when he was playing on this torn rotator cuff, right? And I don't know if that's, you know, just generally like slowing this Dems, right? It's like it's just like lowering your sensitivity or whatever, but 'cause he's playing injured. There's a lot going on with him, right? As kind of the general thing we can say. I think he looks. I would just say, I think more explosive is the best way to say. I think we, when he's dropping his hips when he's coming out, looks very, very sharp. I mean, so we talked about this a little bit when we were discussing how exciting to seek God or in the offense got was not nearly as feature. He was in the offense for a decent Mattis naps at very comfortable with that. But we, we're talking about this. We said, what's Al Sean kinda gets added into this team into the system. It's really going to come very difficult to cover. And the reality of that is demonstrated in these kind of that touchdown where where I'll show was one. The receivers in in a few bunch set and then the long throw silent throw. He was one of the receivers in three bunch set them in touchdown. He was just a receiver to the trip side, right? But now you're pretty much you're gonna put a guy like Dallas gutter or Zakar on the backside here in a force attention to go to him inside, just throw away, sort of backside isolated, and then you've gotta galore earth's slash Qatar and Jeffrey all to a trip side that's very, very difficult to deal with. Right. Any see that because now you're getting alshon matched up against Malcolm Butler a good NFL corner in one on one situations that he regularly one right into. That's how formation plus having the talent to win one on one match ups. You know, even when you're not beautifully scheming guys open with a credible route concepts. Once you can force defense in one on one situations, having a talent like alshon Jeffery versus say, like Jordan Mathews earth Kamar Aken it changes the face of your offense because when you're in a third in four back because your own ends situation this, we have. High percentage play whenever we want it, it's that man were in seventeen while I'll tell you this from twelve and thirteen personnel, and you know having Al Sean out there as that, that wide receiver in those situations and Goddard as the second tight end and every now on that very rare. But every now and then there was Josh Perkins from twelve and thirteen personnel. They ran it forty percent of the time. Seven point nine, seven yards per play, fifty percent success rate that's two point, four, five, your higher than with eleven personnel and nine percent more successful than with eleven personnel. So that twelve and thirteen personnel. I know before the game, Doug said that he didn't want to be known as thirteen personnels had teams fine. I understand Josh Perkins is and all that great. The it's well personal team be at forty percent of the game, be at fifty percent of the game. They were seventy percent against the colts because it can have a guy like l. Sean, they were able to get a, you know, a modicum of productivity out of it. But now that Alcyone is back at just enhances it that much more and gives you that much more flexibility. So glad that Sean is back. We could spend all day elm, but I know what people are to want to hear about. Out or some of the protection issues that we had and they started early and the first crack in the dam was Durell. Casey singled up against Steve was new ski. Stephen was newsy, and I think I mentioned that in the preview show that if I would get Casey on with on whiz, if I were dean pees, that would be my goal on defensive coordinator. That's obvious that's money all day just because Casey is a force of this widely underrated by the national media. So he gets run, stop on first down by beating Johnson. Insides, does Casey. Then he beats with solo then on third and nine. And this is where the real problem started for me. Dean p sends a delayed linebacker blitz, Jason Kelsey late to pick it up. Jaylen Brown comes free up the middle in shuts the drive down so far as as many things as positive things that we saw from this offense. And there were a ton of rights bus that we talked about setbacks too close to each other derailing drives and advantageous situations plagued this team throughout the game. And a lot of it came up from picking blitzes from picking up stunts and in that piece throughout them. And again. Thirty four percent blitz. He was aggressive and I said, we needed to make them pay when they blitzed. And when I charted, it was up and down. It was a mixed bag. We didn't make them pay enough when we got hurt by too much. So any book even when they weren't blitzing the herald Landry sack Ben. Have you ever in John Leger from from TD in the draft network, your your buddy there, your cohort, John, Leonard, asked me, have you ever seen lane Johnson beat, like herald, Landry, beat lane Johnson? I could not make an example. I fail a one time and it was when when eagles play the Broncos a few years ago, it was von Miller flat tweet out at I play when they replayed it. I said, I have not seen lane beat like that says, I think vaunted in like twenty fifteen or something right? Where von like absolutely smoked on music player, just put him might not put them in a blender lured by by listen, the thing about Landry and that rush rep and I've, I'm nervous and I'm apprehensive doing this, but I'm gonna do it. The thing about Landry that rush rep and Derek bar. Net is this, there was a while there's a while we thought Landry was gonna come out in the Derek Barnett class, right? Landry vein, his junior season put up like eighteen and a half sacks or something bonkers, only received a date to grade from the the committee. So he went back to school and then obviously also still got draft on day to tell about injuries, his senior year, whatever. We're going the same place with this, my God, there was a while that Landry and Barnett we're gonna come out in is same class, and it was a big conversation because they were kind of conceived of as the edge threes behind Myles Garrett and Solomon Thomas if you characterize him as such. Okay. Some I was much in the Landry over Barnette camp and the reason because what you saw Landry due to lane Johnson, where he didn't even use his hands right, which they, you're supposed to. And he didn't cause Landry needs to learn how to do that. But we're Landry just got directly into lanes cylinder right into his gut very quickly off the snap, and then just. Made lane with on the punch by dipping his shoulder down low to the ground, right. When lane was gonna fire. We like to talk about Barnett learning and growing. He will be, you can't teach that that that inherent timing and the ability to just bend your body at a ridiculous angle and maintain momentum. It's natural. It's instinctive. You can hone it over practice. You can. You know, you can really work on it when you have it, but you can't just like a choir it. You know what I mean? It's kind of a, you're the doer. You don't have sort of a situation, and that's something that never really had. We see Barnette making credible displays a flexibility. We've seen him in the run the run game, but that timing and that maintenance of momentum to come around the corner, dip your shoulders at that that throw just misses with rare. We just don't see that on burnett's tape merely to the degree that we saw on Landry's tape. Who do you who do you see it from shortlist I hit the five, maybe five, six. So I would say like other. Guys. Recently you saw from Landry. You didn't even really see it from Myles Garrett because Garrett was just bully right gear dip. He's handwrite it ever. I will say a guy who you could say has it but super consistent need to hone. It was tacked McKinley at UCLA who also around that Derek Barnett class. And if I put my mind all way back to twenty sixteen burn a little time at bringing up my twenty sixteen big board so that I have something to go off of and it turns out it's not in my book more thought it was. Can't think of anything that twenty sixteen class yet. So it's rare. Let's pretty good pretty good. I'm pretty good evidence. Anyway. This is kind of a tangent. We bring it back home. Yeah, simply when we talk about blitzing thirty, four percent of the time, you really got emphasize like, that's a third of the time that's is if like every third down he blitz every one, you know, obviously the downs and everything, but it simply to say that's that's incredible freedom to send those end. The main issue that I saw that the end of the day like Jason Peters got beat a couple of times again, that's something that you're more concerned about. If you see it over a couple of games stretch than if you see just once, you know, it doesn't worry me that much. I think that yelich there was a miscommunication between Kelsey and wiz. That was kind of a problem. Okay. The main issue was that there was not a running back could be trusted to pick up protection in the backfield and you just couldn't do it right. It was when they were asked to. Smallwood Energi both couldn't pull it off and they were also just not asked to do with that may be the coaching staff knew that that was just a lost cause. And you can have that when you're dealing with stunting twisting pressure like that. You really want to have that back because you don't know what gap the pressure going to be coming from. It's hard to slide protections because they will you by overloading one side of coming from the other, so on and so forth. So you really need that back who can get from big after began. You know, who has that versatility for you end it simply wasn't there and that's something that Philadelphia should be a privy to and it really just a kind of to me increases the value of Darren sproles Corey climate down, sproles plastics. Well, for his size, Corey Clement is a solid pass blocker. He's really the back. You would have loved to see healthy, so so special thing that we're doing here on bleeding green nation. So we don't have to dwell on this offense of line, but we can still address it in full is I'm going to be talking with three time pro bowler, longtime Philadelphia. Eagle left tackle trae. Thomas firefight chat. Big ups to trae for doing this. I'm gonna be talking with him on Thursday, so that might be up around Friday, but we are going to be talking about this game. And in general, some offense of line play some things that we saw shutout to trae for for reaching out and wanted to do that with us. So that's going to do it. I'm so excited for that. We're gonna. We're gonna get until the nerdy details about offensive line plane is going to be amazing. His big time, big time fan, hemp him growing up. So that's gonna be awesome. Very excited to that. Let's flip into the defensive side since we spent before we do that one more play shutout joined Matthews. I understand it was it was it was a dial up and it was against quarters coverage in a car. You know, went to the deep out and Butler is expecting help, and that. That's all great. You went out there. You made a play, scored a touchdown, welcome to the FAM he did get caught. I don't know if you saw this, then he got caught by the fly eggos fly hashtag. Oh, yeah. No, already I in their eagle eagles eagles taste victim. Listen, I can't stretch this enough Genta listeners when you put in hashtag f. L. y. e. the first half that comes up wrong Egal's the Ellen, the your switch because so many people have made this typo that it now just like Twitter defaults to it, which is by the way wild and someone someone should do his historical documentary on that thing. That's insane, but just double check if the little eagle emoji doesn't come up. It is spelt incorrectly don't be like every eagles athlete which is awful and wrong. Otherwise I will expose you. It'll be funny. So that's it for the offense had to end on that funny. Note going to the defense here. We'll try to. We'll try to fit this in with the with the time that we have left here, but. Oh, Wow. Did we talked way too much? Oh, we, yeah, we, we just love it so much, but one of the things that we love is trying out guessing games and see if we can bet on certain things in one of the things that you asked me and you wanna let the gentle listeners know what you asked me to chart on the do the work since you made me do the work. But yeah, because I was like, man, this'll be really. To chart. Now, I was like, I should chart. And then I also had my first day of classes today from senior year. So I was like, you know, who actually should try to is get a fulltime Mike. Anyway, I'm saying, you know, might I think I bet which was a good choice that over fifty percent of the time, the eagles deepest defender at the moment of throw was a corner illustrating how little faith eagles had in their safeties to play the downfield as it turns out, Mike, you are revealing the answer. So Ben said that it was over fifty percent. Deepest defender was a cornerback in is specified by outside corner. It was never nickel. So I wasn't worried about that anyway. But deepest player was a cornerback at the time of the throw, and I even included sex for you've been scrambles. There was there was nothing there for you. It just watered down your number number forty, six dropbacks twenty three out of forty six exact times the cornerback. The outs. Side cornerback, either mills or Darby were the deepest person on the defense showcasing, like you said, the lack of faith of the weird game plan that we come out with Corey Graham as Robert defender that got burnt several times we asked for inverted covered to more of that with Rodney McLeod. We did not want it twenty times this game with Corey, Graham and Jalen mills with Ronald Darby playing half, half feel deep, and I understand okay. At first I was like, oh, they're just they're just testing Mario because we talked about, we talked about that early test them Darom see if he can make the throws because as Blake bedding field said the former titans, Tennessee titans collar, scouting director said when he watched Mario last week, he couldn't make the deep out. He couldn't make the deep corner throat because the bottom two fingers of his throwing hand were numb. Okay, that's fine. Is he healthier? Not. Let's dare him to make that throw. I, you know. I big throw becomes out any any puts out, then you're like, oh, he's got the juice. So maybe we'll come off of that. We did not. It was so much inverted covered like you could compile all the place from the rest of the NFL from this season. And I feel like we ran inverted covered two or had our corners as the only two d. responsibilities more than any other team. Like it was wild to me how much they do and mills and door. Darby aren't used to that. They're not accustomed to that. So yeah, they failed a little bit and they're going to get trashed for, but who does that? I don't know what it simply boils down to. We're really not a ham. We'll start with the first thing. We don't know. We don't know why a team would retain as their third safety, a player who they do not trust in pretty much every role safety plays. We don't know that Wynonna why you would keep Corey Graham when you clearly don't trust Corey Graham to do safety things. So it was playing at the line of scrimmage, you could put KOMO gruza hill in there. He would have done a better job. It didn't sane said everything we need to talk about with Corey Graham in one story on the final play of the game Koi Graham lined up over Corey Davis, who will eventually receive the game, any touchdown and Avantime Maddux's capping him. So he's directly lineup at the same latitude right lens, straight line behind ROY Ramm. Yeah, about a ours off quite Graham eventually before the snap peels off of coordinates who's in the slot to go to the outside and mentally scrimmage, and he's a nickel blitz Alex's in coverage. So on between a man, that was, that's my punchline, Mike, my line, fourth round, rookie corner playing against the fifth overall, pick from funny seventeen or quake, Graham invested veteran who has corner experience. I'm pretty sure who's been on the team for multiple years, and one of them had to blitz and the other had a play coverage on Davis who've been killing all game, and they chose choreographed to blitz. Which is when you do when you have liabilities like you blitz, your liability, that is that is defensive coordinator, like to a one, and you're not bringing him because he's a fantastic Blitzer you're bringing him 'cause you're bringing six and you're just thrown bodies at it. This is not. Oh, Corey, Graham is a fantastic Blitzer. We need to send him. He's not doing his nervous. Exactly. It's not James not Taylor wrap. This is an avant Matic's in off coverage, so has to deal with to go go line Corey games like that, right. There is just a story for how this coaching staff trusts Corey Graham, in my opinion. So we don't know that number two, we don't know why Jalen mills. And Ronald Darby seemed so unprepared for a coverage that they have played before successfully at all. You can call an inverted cover to frame Duffy's caller, cover, three robber. I'm calling Tampa to Robert. 'cause it's basically tap into this is what I landed on Tampa to covers the coverage populist by the bears, Brian. Lacquer you're playing basically like cover to yet in quotation marks, but really that middle hold defender is flying down. The middle of the field is going super deep. So basically comes three coverage, Tampa to coverages. Tampa Bay a Jon Gruden, Tony Dungy this popular Brian Urlacher is like the last middle linebacker could really pull it off in that. Then coverage died for a reason. Another eagles brought it back, but we call Tampa to Robert because instead of the middle linebacker dropping back the deep safeties coming forward as a robber cover three, Robert, Tampa to robber, whatever. Okay, sounds like cover two inverted, but go ahead. I mean, yeah, just words but were yet. No, I think you know, when we talk about inverted cover to you assume that that deep safety is coming all the way into the middle hole instead of staying a little bit further back which I have opposed by time drops on immigration that breaks down literally all of this. So go Henry that and and love and share with your friends and make fun of them because they're dovey. But you're smart. Okay. And the third thing we don't know, Mike is how the loss of Ryan McLeod led to mass hysteria and confusion dealing with tight sets tights, let's and bunch since and route ten will my God end. We had a nice Brodmann Jalen mills of both go out to cover a running back swing to the flat, which is generally conceived of as the third responsibility and the least dangerous of three routes. When you've got two receivers, typed land, scrimmage, running back releases to the flat. That's your third priority that balls again, thrown two yard line scrimmage, you know, again, the running back wheeling the field, so good that they were there, but they're two of them and Corey davises wide open the middle of the field. There was the one that you showed against a bunch set with Sydney with Malcolm, where I think watching it Sydney was in the wrong, but it's very difficult to tell his in Christ rules. It's it's what had knows city's got the -pointment mills on the outside there. Taggered unders motion. Corey grant comes over. The communication is already happened. Knowing communicates anything different. So it's looking like it's supposed to be a switch between mills and Sydney, but then Corey, Graham was like doing his own thing, covering his own man. It's a bunch. Those rules were whatever you were doing. Grand needs to be different than what that was. It was so confusing off of what the difficult thing with figuring out what rules are being implied on a bunch set is the rules for who covers who changes based off the releases. Right? So to me watching how the eventual releases occurred in physical space, jails, Koi grandma in pure man coverage. Whereas cine Jones went the wrong way. Right? Did not take the point man. When the point when running. Now, if you're running pure man coverage, the bunch that's kind of confusing guide that's that's a that was prize me. It's not what you typically do. If there were rules for who gets who when they release, we don't really know. 'cause the coverage was failed. I'm no idea who's at fault there. That's the only know about even even if they're playing a pure man coverage, like Corey, Graham was apparently you're playing pure man. Coverage against bunch and you gotta run through two guys or three guys potentially through through traffic to get your managed. None of it made any sense dude, and just the confusion all throughout in. We've had issues before with pre stop communication even with MacLeod in there, and it was starting to get cleaned up and now that he's not there, it just seems so much worse. And then the final point which those three like, I don't know, right. And the final point is simply this there have been games with eagles have given up ten total points where the secondary was probably just as bad now, but the front four was getting home constantly. And that's likely if you're an offense and you're facing the defense, we said like target Jalen mills. The other big thing you're probably talking about is yo- if they can get pressure with four, we're gonna lose right if they can bring four consistently generate because they get pressure. So quickly have so many different bodies on that line. We're screwed, it's game. So the defensive unit like the the secondary's going to mess up coverages in every game from now until kingdom come. That's what. Secondary's do the receivers. Gonna drop balls in everyday keenum come off as a are gonna miss a blocking assignments protection is just this lock of the NFL we make mistakes. The hope is that you know the real strength of this defense, the defensive line will be able to play badly, but they'll be able to pick things up a little bit. Like I know the pressure rate was incredibly high for the eagles, but in terms of generating Saxon and taking away, you may be that quick. I read if the f. via pressure gets home a little bit earlier than you know, like this problem gets hidden. So it's like Doug said, you know six inches away. The narrative after this game would be so much different. If a very rudimentary fourth fifteen goes away, you expected to right. And so we're kind of talking about things in light of this loss in their these problems in. It's easy to panic because we're not used to being the situations. We just want a Super Bowl. Everything is fine, and things will be better tomorrow with the pressure rates being high. And I saw that too. I was like just in a lotta time to go back and look at it and say, look, the pressure was as bad as we thought it was this percent in the film matches the film. The film didn't match for me into those. Shire's coming from joining Hicks on nine rushers on Russia's. That's fine. Michael Bennett was the only one with a decent output. A holiday. NADA had a decent day, but we were not getting home with normal guys that we get home with as consistently. So I don't necessarily buy that forty-two percent pressure Eytan and it's weird because PF quits at like, you know, they're within a yard of the quarterback. By the time they throw it or within the rapper, whatever the case may be, which can be extremely subjective. So of course, we have to go and check the film. It wasn't as bump in at as as it has been in a pass. Obviously that's might just be another issue with the with the home and NY in the road splits. We'll see how that pans out. But yet I feel like those issues definitely get exasperated when we don't get the typical buzzsaw pass rush that we are used to with the eagles. I don't feel that we got it against the titans. Ben, the issues get exasperated or exaggerated exacerbated by what exacerbated also works every rated of the three def. Does not. Okay. While I'll take the third one that was said exacerbated. That's what I've been exacerbated. Yeah, see every show. Now every show you don't the other show. Ben corrections emissions real quick. I such ACOG. Oh, bears earth, rococco Browns. I screwed it up a such a cog. Oh, Brown's about de'andre hall mattress. I didn't. I I would've made fun of that one too said civic again. It's every show some saiga. I gotta pay more attention when you talk, you know you, you really don't do gentlest ner Ben. I think that does it for this all twenty two film review unless you have anything else if you don't say it in take it by to the gentle listeners. 'cause I'm taking too many ELS lately and yeah, I need. I need to get my head, right. I need to do something to get my head, right. I'm assuming it involves some alcoholics beverages, visit my last film review. Qua- point. Are you ready? I think Malcolm touring is awesome, but I know that for a fact, I think I'm not positive. I'm getting check again. I think Jake. Elliott has slightly changed the way he kicks short field goals and extra points from twenty seventeen. You know who you should get in contact with to check that hill? Chuck zodda from inside the pilot. The pilot PF he might be PF now, but he was doing the pilot stuff before he, he would definitely he'd be all in for that conversation. He would give you thirty minutes of his time breaking down his mechanics in the how and the why. I think, man, I was just watching. I wanted to see his field goals because Jake three for three short Vogel's which is never sent thought. I would say. So I want to check it out and then I went back to twenty seventeen and I was like, I think he changes approach a little bit anyway on it truck. Yes. As you're kicking note for the year, probably much for listening to the kissing, select show them Ben yell, my and my wife from the mic. Thank you. That's listening to the kiss. Begin listening to the Kingston. So light show here. I'm BG at a radio. We do pre she'd Kevin by as always been Benjamin solely on Twitter at Benjamin. So like that's SOL eqe. 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The Kist & Solak Show #17: Eagles O vs Titans D Preview, McLeod's Status

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The Kist & Solak Show #17: Eagles O vs Titans D Preview, McLeod's Status

"Michael kissed Benjamin so lag. It's the Kistin Solex show presented by SP nation and leading nation. You are flying high on the kissed, and so lack show. This is episode seventeen brought to you by the fine folks at Espy nation and league. Greenish I am your host. Michael kissed follow me on Twitter at Michael kissed NFL ks as always joined by the best Doug on co host in the game Mr. eight year streak without a bad day, Benjamin, so lack follow him on Twitter at Benjamin. So like that's SOL AK ban how you doing brother sad, Mike. Every day to be alive, but I'm sad, Matt till the people while your side because I'm sad to feel you because we recorded a podcast yesterday and there was something that we recorded that like became news relevant and it was something else and it was a good like we did a good job on that. I love when that happens. And then like two hours later, Derek gun of NBC sports had the report that on the clouds torn MC l. n. would likely be out for the rest of the season. Accordingly, we'll high and we were just singing the praises of Rodney McLeod guy who like, you know, before the season, you know, you're looking at a places to save money in you said, MacLeod you know, is a big contract, nine point, five million, hey, coming up next year. Like maybe that's a spot of course, Philadelphia, their money elsewhere McLeod stay on the roster at least for this year. But then with the way he's been playing with what he's able to do for the defense seems to really take a step forward in his game for a season because shores heartbreaking. So we hope that's the case Peterson end. The eagles officially have commented on whether or not McLeod is out for the season. They just know that he's not playing this week, but the way man. Rodney socks sucks that his his MC l. obviously has some issues going on there needed surgery on it and it, like you said, it hasn't been confirmed these out for the season. The the best thing I'm seeing out there is is twelve weeks from a cloud. So that's best case scenario. Hopefully that is the case, but it's not looking. It's not looking to great. And I said the report about him was pretty ominous when it came out that they needed one more test, there were rumors that it might just be a contusion pro football doc, Dr Chow said that it looked like it was just a from the sounds of it. It was just contusion turns out it's a lot worse than that. Yeah, I and that means we could see more of Corey Graham. That means that de'andre hall from northern Iowa, the safe that we that we traded for from the Chicago Browns seventh round conditional, pick revise foced, go, read my post on him, did a full report on him. It's on. On the, it's on the time line and put it out there. But yeah, he he only had six special teams snaps last week. He may be looking at a bigger workload. I think he's capable of it. I thought he played well in the preseason. His issue has always been getting straight in the offseason or off the field is where he's had a lot of his issues in the bears, just finally gave up on that gave up on the player or the person before they did the player. The field product is fine. Ben. I mean, where we go from here, do we do? We play more nickel because of that because we're playing a lot of three safety sets odyssey. Now if you know we bring up trae Sullivan, it's not going to be the same impact that we had before. How do we hide Corey Graham? What does that change for you? As far as what the defense needs to look like from from a deployment and schematic standpoint, the biggest increase in snaps probably does go to Sidney Jones and not to say that said he's been taking a low number of snaps because he has them, but simply at this point now when you are in your base, which is nichole, you're not. We're going to be looking at three safety sets nearly as frequently. You're going to be almost very heavily in three corner nickel sets the more traditional nickel if you will, does that mean that you have to play exclusively single high because you wanna be keeping a amalgam Jenkins down in the box? No, it doesn't, but that's very likely what you're just gonna see predominantly, the main thing that this does is it just limits your your versatility. Right. And that was what we talked about is what I wrote about what we talked about when we said wise McLeod off to such a hot start this season. It was simply that because MacLeod was being moved from that deep centerfield position more. So this season than we saw in previous seasons, Philadelphia had the freedom to do more things with the defensive back five or the back seven, whatever you wanna say in terms of coverage shells. And in those variations in those changes, they've creating bay turnover worthy opportunities right now, you know, we were highlighting a lot of the near interceptions in actual interceptions do not come from the eagles cover three shell. Rather they came from when. In Philadelphia shifted out of it, do you have as much freedom to shift out of it? You don't have because Corey, Graham is not a guy that I think you can really trust anywhere up. But if you're gonna trust him somewhere out, think he's a guy. You can necessarily trust so much in like man coverage on tight ends the way that you know McLeod and Jenkins you felt comfortable leaving those guys man coverage. If you had to, how much do you like Corey Graham as deep center fielder Mike, I just flashed back to that Kareem hunt touchdown against Kansas City to last year record grams of one of the most offensive angles I've ever seen coming downhill. Right? And everything bad about Jordan. I was like, what about the do behind Jordan Hicks to remember that now? Yeah, grandma's not a player in whom I have a lot of trust. So with de'andre hall, a guy who's got great size and length, whatever. If he can become a more reliable underneath defender, man, defender on big tight ends or whatever. Cool. But you're really banking on a long shot. You know what I mean? And so you're likely going to see them is still. Ills Darby in the outside Jones on the inside Jenkins and Graham being the base nickel, Graham will stay pretty consistently in deep middle or deep halves, and Malcolm Jiang's will be the the only safe. They wanna bring down at the box. They do bring ram box allot, but if you're bringing grand on, if you're bringing three safeties onto the field, it's trae Sullivan. Graham and Jiang has there's no way you're playing Sullivan deep over Fram because Sullivan is is stronger, safety type. That's just the way his Bill is. That's where his his talent lies. Now you will hear. I'm sure you've got the questions. I've got questions, Jalen hill safety reps, receiver safety wraps these player. This was haven't cross trained safety. They have not taken any practice reps they are in. So that's one that's some serious on the job training right there. If they were to do that, they haven't even flirted with it yet. So like wall Jalen mills n. Russell Douglas are playing deep thirds when they're in cover three, we're talking about drastically different run, fill responsibilities, massive changes in terms of what happens. With pre snap motion. Right? So even if after the snap, oh, like, you know, deal deferred. What's the difference? Yellow before the snap fitting within the scheme of the defense and not giving up for yardage via miscommunication. It's just it's very difficult. I on possible. Ask the player to just do that. I do not anticipate seeing Jalen mills or of us taking any safety style snaps, even though those are two players that eagle fans were. They have their teeth in the idea of one of them playing safety in the future. And you know, Jalen mills will the safety news freshman at LSU, but just because he did it six, seven years ago doesn't mean he can start doing it. Now. That's the situation. It's a lot easier on mad into switch guys to safety than it isn't real life, especially in the middle of the season. So I doubt we'll see anything like that. I would see the next question is, are we looking to trade for safety? I know there's a piece on bleeding, green nation dot com. Right now. Not exactly sure who authored it, but it was twelve safeties that the eagles could look at bringing in. So go check out that piece that was g many rain. So, yeah, go check out that piece by the highly. Elevated Beal g. making forever Ben, we might as well get to the rest of the injury report for the eagles. This is the whole show. We've kind of gotten off track as this. This breaking news with MacLeod the hold the the rest of the show. After this injury report here is going to be a preview of the Philadelphia Eagles offense against the Tennessee titans defense. Yesterday we flipped it. We did the Tennessee titans offense against the Philadelphia Eagles defence. So today with flip it around and will look at some of the individual matchups overall feeling about the titans defense, what they'll try to do to us before we get to that. Obviously, house cleaning needs to be done for the Philadelphia Eagles did not practice Al sham. Jeffrey do not panic. It was for an illness according to the team parents. He still clear for context. Good to go running back. Darren, sproles with the hamstring is still out JJ. He's back to full participation. And he revealed some interesting news that will get to here in a second. But also in that running back room, running back, Corey climent, dealing with quad, he was. Limited and then wide receiver, Jordan Mathews takes one week to land on the injury report here in Philadelphia with a hamstring back to jolly. He said that he has a fracture in his back and his ability to play apparently is going to be very dependent on his paint tolerance. And if I had to guess it a transverse process fracture which is something that Derek Carr, the quarterback from the Oakland Raiders play throughout the season with, but you know, very two different positions when it comes to taking on contact as a running back, you're getting it literally every carry as a quarterback, maybe not so much bad news about a giant man. I, that's that's definitely I think at the very least it limits his snap count, puts him on a pitch count just to kinda keep him nice and healthy and and feeling good. What do you think about this injury report so far then? Well, I I want Darren, sproles back. This is like, you know, a Jonah pitch count. Yeah is okay. Giant gone was on pitch count when he first came who you want to call it, that in the sense that that we. Survivor the Gye sharing time. The thing is you need a healthy, stable backs, right? Bright. I don't see Wendell small world regardless inva- giant is a pain tolerance thing. Will we have to ask ourselves how valuable or games in week five, six, seven, eight. When hopefully the are gonna be playing eighteen nineteen twenty and twenty one. You know what I mean? You obviously don't want to run that player into the ground. Of course, if this is a long-term season issue for giant, he already has knee concerns. This changes the way you view him as a long term contract player as well. So there's a lot going on with how you manage a giants reps, which is tricky because you want to run the ball against this defense against the way the titans deploy their their scheme. You'd love to run the ball quite well against these guys. So I anticipate seeing some giant. You know what I mean? Like I don't think that they'd be treating him as such. It were too big of an issue at this point other, not that bereft of talent just yet, but either way a jibing on a pitch count isn't nearly the. A big concern for me until you take Darren sproles out of the equation. That's where it becomes a problem. Absolutely agree with that. Okay. So titans injury report a go through the did not participate. I offense of lineman. Dennis Kelly. You can argue that he's never participated in a game of football. He was out with an illness running back as a second day in a row for him to shots. Denny Dennis Kelly. I don't think he's, I don't think he deserves that, but I feel good about it running back David Llewellyn still dealing with the groin quarterback. Blaine gabbert has a concussion in full participation. This is interesting. Marcus mariota returns to full participation with that elbow injury that we've talked about. Also Jack conklin with the knee, which is definite upgrade for them at right tackle. 'cause Pamphili was out there on the right side and I don't know if you saw Ben, he was bad, but he was also guard trying to play tackle and wasn't really a great spot for him. Also, full participation. Comelec Correa with his back, Ryan suck up was a full participant Dorie Jackson with his concussion Kendrick Lewis with. Foot, and I think that does it for them. Anything stand up for you there? If I think from what it looks like it sounds like Mario's elbow in fingers are are starting to feel fine, which could definitely impact the way that the the eagles play the game on Sunday or game plan against him on Sunday, stood out for me is J's the titans of Kamli Korea the trip for about telly. Miss that two things happen to me. Why was like ways everything that happened? A number one is the titans faded for Kamli Korea and to Jack del Rio coast. The Oakland Raiders. I totally forgot. That was the thing. I guess it's just being by the fact that Jon Gruden is now coaching the raiders, but Jack del Rio was like a kind of successful at some point coach raiders in the way those the two things that blown online today, but yet, no, Mario, being back Jack conklin being back Dory, Jackson, being back Bom, you know, the kind of guys that were question marks for them coming into the week. Look, they're all playing at least the big impact guys. Obviously, there's no Delaney Walker. But yeah, the titans. Should be at relatively full strength. As far as that offense goes than having a door is also big deal, and then they have restored Matthews was the news today. That was the other thing. That's what I said. We were talking on with a report. The podcast I was like, I've heard that Ricciardi gone. And then after recorded I swear, I swear to goodness. Rappaport was like, yo retard Matthews's gone. I was like, Ian, how you source me next time. But no, you're fine. Yes. So that was interesting. I was listening to my friends in Tennessee radio today. Go back and forth about that in its Becky was losing snaps anyway. He had one target early in the game against the Jaguars. He dropped the ball on third in one, he had a three arteries after that. He was playing special teams. He was losing snaps to guys like what's his name? Darryl Jennings from mistaken, no respect. If I screw up your first first name there, Mr. Jennings in Tehran Taylor Tozzi sort Rowen snaps there. So he was on his way out. He had issues with previous offense coordinator, Terry rediscovered in, obviously it's not working with the new staff there for. Matthew. So he's out not not a very big impact whatsoever, but still news of for that section there. Okay. Then let's preview this matchup with the Tennessee titans defense against the Philadelphia Eagles offense. Just just first impressions out of the gate of the Tennessee defense as as you watched them. I know one of the things that that I really liked an in, even though they they didn't get any pressure on on Tanna hill in week one, they harassed to Shawn Watson in Houston week two. And then they were up and down a little bit against accidental week three. But overall, you look at some of the blitz packages that they bring to the table with solid cover men behind them. I think that they could have at eagles have strong struggled with stunts and they run a lot of games with what they like to do. They'll give you a different looks before the snap. They'll send people from different directions and try to get themselves in advantage. And then when you throw in herald Landry, they're who they had on a bit of a pitch guy. He's more like a sub package guy. For them as a pass rusher, but he's dangerous on third downs. I like what they do in the stunt games in the us federal with before this thing that stood out to me the most is us having to be sound in our protection. Make sure that we're communicating pre snap what's going on in what we need to do, who we need to pick up and making sure that those are sound. What did you see Ben from this defense? That's only allowing sixteen point seven points per game, dean, pees events coordinator. Yeah, was it was the ravens divas coordinator, retired and then came back the titans defense coordinator. Very interesting situation with obviously might rail. There's defense, mine, head, coach, I love zone, blitzing defenses. They are like like a guilty pleasure of mine. I know they're not good for me. I know they're not really good for the league anion end. You shouldn't miss difficult to be very successful now until eighteen with the zone, but to defense. But I still just can't quit him. I love him blitzing defenses. So what happens Tennessee's got. We talked interchangeable safeties Tennessee's got two different safeties that they trust to play much everywhere, and that's can't even car with a pig above the street from New Orleans who's playing quite well for them, which doll shocking we'd car was good, and then they got the young Cam Byard, young, middle, Tennessee State Kevin VR Kevin, third year player is the bureau barred that was barred. He's got, why do you say the why it. Okay. So be a RD barred. So be YARD is not like a silent east Jewish in man. You're, I think you're really like you're putting a lot of like a button into it. You're saying beyond initial Byard. So Kevin county. I'm I'm really questioning myself now I'm gonna hear it. Oddly the rest of the podcast, but Kevin Tennessee State safety thirty year as great young player who big fan of him and when he plays, they're interchangeable. So what you can do with those two guys and then also the corners, Dory, Jackson's, stellar athlete, Malcolm, a great cover meta. As you can flip, they give you covered to look at. It goes cover three and they give you cover three into becomes quarters. Gave you cover one. It becomes cover zero and they move those safeties no secondary men pretty much everywhere and Nichols, the new base. Logan. Ryan is a great nickel. So throw in the fact that now you've got not great front, four obviously herald Landry would for him to earn more snaps, rusher, Ryan ragged clothes, always like a disruptive guys on China, shop guy, but he's not. I'm not sure how much you can rely on him. Derek Morgan on us snapped at basis. They got DRO, Casey draw cases the for command control, Casey, but either way he's a bad effort. Yeah, for sure. You've got that front for. It's not necessarily talent ridden, and then you lost every Williams in free agency. So right now you're, you're Rockin. Wesley Woodyard was playing pretty well. Jay on Brown, marshawn Evans, their first round, pick some nice developmental pieces, positive guys. You've got some veteran guys in Bennie. Logan was he would your Derrick Morgan Bryner I got DRO Casey's or feature fees, whatever your zone blessing with those guys, Mike, five of them on the line almost every given time overloads like crazy favorite part of the zone, like nine tech and every else's. Like either opposite three Tekere further away. What are you doing insane? Go respect. Nothing is sacred and you have five or six guys up on the line. Got linebackers hopping out of gaps, pop out gaps, and you don't really know which way to slide protection of where the pressure's gonna be coming from, and people drop zone blitz. Defense is very, very fun. What's the? What's the weakness there happen? You attack them? Well, number one, I said, kind of in twenty eight teams own blitz defensively are harder to pull off because if you can execute it good. Spread style attack. A lot of priests motion a lot of quick screens. Lot of jet style sweeps and swing passes like a lot of ad behind the line, but was green ticky tacky stuff. You can execute that. Well on eagles Cam, they've evidence that over wtrw since tenure than you a lot of problem for Joan defenses because you're basically asking three hundred pound defensive linemen to get into the boundary in cover running backs, anti-death ends, and that's very difficult. So Philly should be able to attack it. But this is always has the potential to be disruptive as potential Jimmy turnovers because of the amount of rotation that happens in the back. So it's an exciting defenses, fun to watch. Just from pure schematic standpoint, thankfully will handle it, but I appreciate it. Regardless. Do you think that as far as the offensive line goes, you look across the board, I think with you as far as not necessarily worrying about the individual matchups I'm more worried about the stunt games in picking up some the blitzes that they have, but Derek Morgan, Brian Iraq. Poed don't necessarily concern me against lane Johnson and Jason Peters inside. What I'm trying to do if I'm the Tennessee titans is find a way to get drill Casey on Stephen was new ski and see if he can muscle him around a little bit and run stunts to that side because they got beat up by stunts a little bit last week against the against the colts. And I felt that there was a lot of defensive holding happening there too. That was causing that was going on. The players talked about after the game, they're like, yeah, this house all the time. The only reason you'll survive that fourth down play was because lane Johnson got held a little bit like maybe this much and lane through his arm back and caked up into the air through a hissy fit was held the penalty, which it's, that's what you gotta do it. I don't hate it felt like a wide receiver defensive player getting held than than you gotta do what you gotta do. I'm not worried about the individual individual matchups just, you know, for v five getting pressure even if we have to pick up one of those one of those rushing linebackers. However, I will say if it's one of the smaller guys like Darren sproles Corey Clement, and they have to pick up Sean Evans, I remember what Rashawn Evans did two running backs tried to pick him up in blitz pickups in college, and it was nasty. So overawed you're more concerned. I think the same same as I am just the blitz packages and making sure the is communicated beforehand not getting caught out by stunt. Sa's definitely more important than are more worrisome than the individual matchups. Yeah. And when it comes to running backs in pass protection in general, right? You love to get the matchup with them because most time you're Russia's can blow him over. But the best Russia's you get is when you force a running back to make a choice because a running back isn't a guy who has the mental schema for being installed within a group unit off line union terms pass protection, right? So he doesn't have kind of a stall mindset. So what what I think you loved you as his own defense number one. And number two, what Rabl NPR able to do quite successfully is get that halfback to step up into an air gap to to deal with a linebacker closing from depths to deal with one of those green dog style not agreed. Agassi's me like eagle double mug, sort of a situation when knowledge you get him to step up into that. When you run stunts with that attached, then you're now forcing that running back to become part of the office of line shifting rights. Multiple times. I noted a lot against the Jaguars. They would send a linebackers Blitzer, but he would be the crasher in a stunt writing the penman he'd be the penman. And so what you're doing is that running back as king the linebacker. That's what he does, right? That's his job that linebacker comes crashing on the gap. The running back goes to take him. All of a sudden on the defensive tackle the be gap, comes looping over the guard goes to shift, right? I'll take the panel. You take the Looper running back on how to do that. Wine trail, right? They have no idea. They never did not entrain this until you get you buy yourself a free rusher in that regard. And so- exposing running backs and pass protection is even more than a physical matchup and absolutely Corey command. A good has walking running back. No running back has built the handle cross dogs, including Durell fricken Casey who is the most flexible defensive lineman in the league at three hundred and five pounds. And it's just, you know, they're not built for that, Corey lament. Nobody's I did see, I know exactly what rep you're talking about with the against Jacksonville, actually have it up on the on the time line, put the vict- up. It was Wesley wintered coming in as the smasher and he takes out the running back in the guard with them, and then it was Derek Morgan coming into to hit Blake Bortles who ended up misfiring, which she was misfiring for a lot of that game and his receivers, anything, and they were just bad offense. They were so bad. Just a real quick moment here for the Jaguars offense. Rest in peace because. That performance after the New England game was so bad. Did you did you see their wide receivers in a first half ended UC Bortles in the second half. It was like, how is this offense ever gonna score again, lesson. Leonard Fornet thirty five carries every game. This is not a fantasy related tweet sentence sentence is not a fancy related sentence talking in tweets. Now feed Leonard, feed the beast, moving onto some of the secondary matchups that we are going to see Jordan Mathews. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry, it just I mean. Maksim adventure time nonsense his a, he's an average wide receiver dealing with a hamstring injury already. You don't really know how much is gonna play a hope. Alshon comes back. If he does, then he's probably gonna see, I think it's a lot of Dorie Jackson in that situation playing him outside against the door. If it's Matthews against adore, Jackson Matthews, doing jackal day Nelson galore in the slot against Logan, Ryan. I like that matchup other than that, Kamar Aken a really put it onto Kamar Aken Jordan Mathews against either Malcolm Butler or Dorie Jackson, you might as well just shut down the outside passing game unless you're moving tight end out there and you can open up that way like they did against the Indianapolis Colts. And I feel the way that they deploy their coverages is very similar to what the what we saw from the colts, but it's more of a cover three shell than it is a cover to shell. They like to play some soft zones like everything in front. They like to come and swarm and tackle as is a lot of what I saw and they've got the coverage guys to do it there little bit more dynamic with talent in their defensive backfield. Field. They can do a little bit more than the colts did, but the philosophy to same in the Jaguars tried to attack vertically, it wasn't happening that could move the ball same situation with the colts. You've got to be able to, you know, pick them apart, move the ball. Downfield might maybe take a shot every now and then, but they're not going to be readily available for you. They're not very risky defenseless or coming on those blitzes. You need to get those big plays when those blitz happen by picking them up. Because other than that, you're really not gonna get those chances. What did you see from this Tennessee titans secondary, but I have a point of umbrage to take with you. The eagles should not move a single tight end to the outside entire game. I pigeon never report once under no, Kate. Here's the only reason why I would do it. I'm not moving that out there to go face a Dorie Jackson because I feel like it's a better match up. I would rather the door Jackson by playing Jordan Mathews if they move a tight end out there and they get a linebacker out there with them. Now we're talking a little bit, but Mike, I still do like the titans better in the slot. This all if you want. To open up outside passing game. You're gonna have to do something because it's not happening with those guys period. No, I'm saying I don't think they're. They're like they're not gonna play enough man coverage. I think to get linebackers consistently mashed up on tight ends in one on one situations outside. I grew break because you would be bananas to be like, all right. We've got a door, Jackson, Malcolm Butler facing Jordan. Mathews Nelson Aguilar Kamar Aitken we should probably you know what I mean? Like like men on that. Like these guys like to one on one end leave Wesley Woodyard and Jaylen Brown Rashawn Evans on governors right leg. Plus, if you have plus linebacker tight end match as you play hack? Yes, lockdown situation guys, here we go you, you know what? I'm thinking. I'm thinking because I'll give the titans linebacker some credits because this is not third linebackers your Franklin out there that we're just going to pick on or Anthony Walker or something like that. Here's a little bit better than that. But at the same time I am not manning them up with those two. That's not my game plan. They're definitely going to get a car involved in an unbeaten involved with with covering those guys right when it's man coverage. In my opinion, obviously, Dory Malcolm on the outside. You get low Ryan on a slot. It's eleven situation. You Kenny Vaccaro when your man guys Jaylen Brown the fifth rounder UCLA a linebacker who they've they're nickel Sal of linebacker. That's who I would you get even then I think hurts on Brown is busy. Push alerts are thank God her on Vaccaro slash Logan. Ryan is a push to God her. The thing is talking about the zone blitzing ideas because of the nature of the drops you get on zone blitzes in the underneath areas, you immediately scheme yourself out of coverage, and the goal is to keep the quarterback confused long enough that you can spill and get your front seven guys into their covers quickly enough. I think about, you know, you watch the eagles eagles have four down linemen and then they have their, you know, three linebackers two linebackers in a nickel, and they got their their their two corners. Gonna be off. They're gonna have one safety down the box once. In the middle of the field this the shell looks like cover three before this now, right aid, it's irregular, not. You know a majority of the time, but still compared to NFL defense relatively. It's irregular for the titans to be in their posts, snap cover shell before the snap, because round much movement. They d- right, like I've seen reps, Mike, were they moved from cover to to cover to? They just switched who went wear, which like, okay, fine like, that's, that's. That's the thing that other teams do. I don't think it makes a lot of sense vote ever. So as a result, when you have those front guys spilling back, you bet defensive ends dropping into flat zones and you've got diva the tackles dropping in the hawk zone, which is a thing that they've done in those immediate moments. After the snap, your receivers have been very alert to if they are uncovered in space. Get your head. Turn ball is coming your way right? A you. Gotta hate Greenberg with. That's why said like sweeps and screens. And then the end, the jet motion oriented offense is very valuable because when you incorporate present motion against the zone blitz, right number one, the zone Blitzer are going to have to. Adjust into which gap they come through because they do have to adjust strength the formation because of the threat of the run. Right. Kate just stay where they previously aligned before the motion. And so when you force them to change what gap they come through your likely making longer paths for the droppers. Right? Because you're moving guys around from where was on the truck board, the chalkboard the drop, the most advantageous way they can writes, priest motion is great. When you work those the, the flat in behind scrimmage into the boundary will you're basically looking at there is some of those linebackers gonna be coming. They're gonna be closing those areas. They're not gonna be able to buzz to them very quickly because they didn't align five yards off the ball in the usual spots. They were upper scrimmage, so you get those little swing passes going. And then to the point with tight ends, you have all those linebackers running around. You have them coming to the tight ends coming to the seems disadvantageous angles, and you have safety spilling into an out of various seems as they rotate coverages. You have to be heading, be careful because you don't wanna throw into a rotation. You're asking for. Six ball's gonna fall right in somebody's breadbasket. But when you can throw behind a rotation to the area they spill out of talk about, you know, their blitzing from the the offense is right with that means the defense. The offense is left. Those defenders are gonna be flying to the right. You have further left. You gotta throw away those defenders. Vacating hit those spots behind defenders yet bequeathing every snap. You gotta know what you're looking at. Why Blake did bad. You gotta you gotta be very, very aware of the situation. Carson's good at that. Doug is very good at generating. Those quick throws. I have good faith in the offense. We prepare quick question before we get to some of the predictions. We kinda scan. No, that we kinda skipped past the running game. How do you feel this running game matches up agai Tennessee. Titans defense might. I'm very glad you ask them tell you why the Tennessee titans on from numbers that you usually you do it me so get ready scared. The exciting will while you're pulling them up all say that the Tennessee titans ranked second in red zone defense. They're kicking butt in that area. So even if we do with the ball, twenty twenty against them, once we. Get to the red zone. We gotta buckle up. We got, we got play real good. Yup, real good down there. That's my my hashtag analysist. Wow. It's very. All right, Tennessee breaks twenty fifth in the league defensively, in terms of explosive, runs allowed this because you have guys, you have all your your gaps accounted for when you're zone blitzing, but you have guys coming from crazy angles, right? It's gonna make it a little bit tougher to traffic to win because it's not just the four guys who expect coming straight downfield wherever I see that as much. But Mike, the crack toss from lambing, yes, in a big way in a very big way because you can run that into a blitz and into the opposite side of the blitz and both will be equally successful again, getting the ball very quickly into the boundary this what we're talking about and then pure outside zone, which obviously a giant availabilities helpful there, but they ran outside gem was small would end they ran which all Adams God knows why successfully against girls so you, you hit outside zone and again, ball quickly into the boundary. Anything about inside out inside and outside zone off of linemen are not coming to play. Players, they're coming to landmarks. Rights doesn't really matter what Tom foolery the defensive front seven getting up to off. It's going to the same spot. They've got to be able to think into a just on the fly as guys stunned they twist. But that's one of the best characteristics eagles off into flying said they're fantastic dealing with that. We've been playing together for so long. So I think that ripping off big chunk place in the running game. Mike, there were, I think, off my head of five runs for the eagles against the colts over ten plus yards which is not regularly that is very, very strong, very impressive. I expect to see a similar performance against Tennessee, and I think it's gonna matter in a big way to this is the tendencies decent unexposed plays against the past. You're gonna give up some big ones, but I think against the run, they're going to be notably week because the nature of the defense you gotta take advantage agree with you there. So I think that we are a plus in the run game ended his very nice unlike with what the titans have to have an offensive line with the athletic profiles to be able to do these fun zone, blocking things that we need to do to. Operate our game plan. Van, let's get to predictions right now. The line has moved to four and a half. The eagles are the favourite and the under his starting to move the over under starting to move down a little bit. It's at forty one right now. What he have titans have scored above twenty. I'll see them correct. Don't know what it was last year by. Don't think that though, scoring twenty very frequently either. So do not have a good yield trust in this offense ju- hang up the points. We talked about this on the last episode, right? Yeah, definitely Philadelphia's offense, obviously, you know a giant question Mark al-shar question Mark. So in general, this is a game I would be staying away from bedding because the eagles offense could come out with like two of their primary weapons or zero of their primary. What like you know, there's a lot of variants for their, you shouldn't despite the eagles to win the line movement. Does make sense when it started with three. I thought it was going to go a little high Philadelphia and it has. I would still take a Philly against. Spread if I had to make the peck and then the over on better with Philly on the road, it's a little bit more shaky, but I probably still lean over in that way. I know I said over last week against the colts, I didn't check the weather report, so that's what led to that. But anyway, I will take Philly would take points on a game sort of twenty seven to seventeen Philadelphia on thinking twenty four, ten, Philadelphia. I don't trust the titans to score in the red zone, very much. They may get down there two or three times and come away with one score that's about the rate at which they're hitting it now. 'cause they're, they're very, very bad in the red zone as be covered in the last episode. I think the eagles are, I think the eagles are able to punch through this. This red zone defense that the titans have. They aren't just gonna have a whole lot of opportunity. So it is going to be somewhat low scoring. They're going to again antitrust the that they have the right game plan against this defense like they did against the colts and they get some better execution overall, not just from, you know, taking the penalties and everything like that. But also with Carson Wentz being a little bit cleaner. And I am looking at the weather report for Tennessee right now, and it's looking like eighty five and sunny, whether should reflect the game. So, yeah, I'll take twenty four to ten, which means I'm taking the under for the the third or four straight game with the eagles in its. To be great. I wish someone would be great and hit the over. I was the eagles would put up forty points like they were accustomed to last year and we could just move on from talking about how the eagles offense is struggling despite the fact that they have seventeen weapons out right now it feels like, so I'm taking the eagles in this one, twenty four to ten, low scoring affair pretty pretty boring game. 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At the Podium #10.5: The Picket Fence & Slow Starts

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At the Podium #10.5: The Picket Fence & Slow Starts

"They. Hi, this is Jim chica- our podcast step over will be ballers podcasts that work for all of your Sixers needs. Says game breakdowns with a course in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts heathen, I tune Stitcher sparked by or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Look into at the podium. Ten point five brought to you by the fine folks at SP nation and bleeding green nation. I am your host Michael kissed. Follow me on Twitter at microchemist NFL today. It's all about the coordinators Jimmy Schwartz talks about the defense allowing twenty seven points. Dallas frigging Cowboys the state of the secondary. And he also strikes back about his controversial, quote, unquote, sticks defense or picket fence defense wherever you want to call. It actually makes it pretty good point about it. Although I'm not sure y'all wanna hear that right now. Then it's Mike. Rowe who is facing major scrutiny right now. Just as side note in between the scheduled work I do here as we transition from Dallas week to this upcoming saints game. I'm going to be looking at the Frank Reich offense in India to see if I can find any key differences between what Reich is doing what grows doing? So for me. The jury is still out on that. It will see what I find in from there. But today on this show, grow answers questions about golden tapin-. Twenty nine percent is naps in his debut. What will Josh Adams has carved out for himself? And of course, he's going to feel some questions about why the offense can't get off the ground early up next to your own bleeding green nation. We have the kissed end so lack show coach's film review of the Dallas game. We swear it's less hybrid to talk about it for now. Let's get to these press conferences trick or treat. And when there's not a big crowd. You guys get the whole the whole handful, usually, please take one. Just just keep. Keep taking three questions though. Guys got. What is she quarterback position with the injuries and everything you have? Well, I mean hate to get cliche. But it is what it is. I mean, we got some guys her. We got some guys are working hard to get back. We get some young players that need to fill in and make and make their way in the league. We got some guys that aren't coming back. Obviously Darby's not go come back running clouds, not come back the other guy. So I'll have a chance to get back. But our job is players job as coaches, try find try our work to find a formula that works for the guys that we have in my mind, that's the essence of that's the essence of coaching take which yacht and try to figure out it might it might look different than when than we were two hundred percents. Gordon seems to be running the season fourth. What are some of the things that you you do better stop offenses late games? Now. I think I think so many of those of come down to a play in a drive that we got chance to get it stopped. And we haven't we haven't made the play. I think part of the NFL like goes in streaks. Remember, I think it was a couple years ago that that we were giving up a bunch in the first half and second half. I think it was maybe two thousand sixteen. I I I f we gave up point second half we gave up any and and then took a lot of questions earlier this year about the difference between us between road and home and stuff. I think some of those things are just things that things that come up over. The course time those guys make plays, you know, at different times. But I think the theme of of the fourth quarter is we need to finish. And we need to make the plays when they can't we have done as reform five. We haven't made the plays when when they've been needed to be made whether it's Carolina whether it was last week whatever week it is we need to make those plays. Not just in the beginning. And we started some games pretty good. It doesn't matter sixty minute game. Dak Prescott sneak for clutch down or they were hurrying to get the live scoring defense. Many wasn't fully said is that how you view did. Is it something that you've addressed with team? Hurry up situation. We, you know, we just got to be ready to go when they put up all down. You know, we we sorta let a man without a whole lot of resistance there because we are sort of set to play in the end in the V gaps in actually misaligned one of those. You know, there's a lot of times where you get beat physically in the NFL, you know, a guy makes reception. You know, they got good players. We got good players. Sometimes that's the way it goes. Sometimes the guy, you know, make a nice run and break tackle as sort of the the basis of this league. But. That that's a particularly hard one swallow because we weren't set. We weren't ready to play right there. There's no excuse for them hurrying up. We have plenty of time. Communicates call on get set. We just we just weren't weren't there to do it. Place. You hoping he was going to be able to step into those doing so wide anybody at all. No, no, we liked. We liked vonda in that match. I thought he did a good job against Bailey. Most of the time they gave up one completion to him when he had it. But we like to we like Matic's matching up and not that we don't have confidence in and crave on. But that's just the way that that's just the way that we plan that game. Plus, we were getting Corey Graham back it just made sense the shrine accentuate that much vote. That was our our best. Our best match for slot door before us the way. It looks like we're going to have a bigger role out any play Sunday. And what does he need to do to fill that I played like a twenty seven to twenty loss. And that's the way the team played defense played that's the way he played. And I would say for anybody to play snaps on defense. That's the that's the way we played. We all need to play better. We only played a pass better. We all need to tackle better. As an individual for the rest of the way. He's got. He's got a lot of pride. He's got a lot of confidence. Hope he'll bounce back from it. But of course, of course, coming back from his hamstring. Mona don't wanna put position where it was too many snaps right in a row, we tried to manage that situation. Best. You guys are stretch pardon. I don't know. I thought we rushed really well the whole game. I mean, there was there was a lot of which is in our game plan that I just scratched at different points. Because it really didn't make sense we needed more help in coverage, and it didn't make sense to. But it's a lot of times because to form impasse. Rush was was was getting there. I was I wasn't as disappointed in the pass rush over the course of the game as I was to run defense, and that's not just a d line, but linebackers defensive bags defense coordinator position coaches, we all had we all have a hand in that. And that that that's why I was most disappointing. And that's where maybe local like we might have got run down a little bit tackling hasn't been as good. At least my vantage point is last got pretty good vantage point, very well. Why a lot of them are the same guys that are just attacking? I think I think a lot of tackling goes to positioning it goes to play in fast at goes playing confident. So I think that you know, I when you when you look at tackling, you you generally go there. I don't think we've I don't think we've looked as fast swarming defense. I think here's what happened. I think a lot of times last year. We would miss the same number tackles. But. We were just flying around so fast and guys were covering each other up. And I think that we got a lot of new faces and they're also working their way through playing off the other guy in his something. There is something to that sort of. You know, communication like offensive line knowing what the other guy's going to do. I think we got some some work to do there. There's no there's zero good defenses in the NFL that aren't good tackling defenses and Sunday night. We were not a good tackling defense. There. What do you mean? What needs to be better? All. That we haven't given up one. I now in three years playing defense. That was not that was not that. Nickel. Third and. Well, our yet. You don't want them to dump all naked. Frontal down either getting haven't haven't got any I on those on those on those calls. So I don't know what you're really talking about right there. I mean, the time like the end of the first half one that was man to man. I wasn't that wasn't soft zone. Ourselves. Own ourselves own is not. Salsa are our picket fence type defenses not been given a first down as it came was they had a fourth down short and fall starting. But remember saying sideline is at the time. That finally because I would I would include if you gave up enough yards on third down that they went for it on fourth converted. I would consider that have the defense being defeated. The biggest thing is, you know, we're certainly willing to give up ten yards. And we ran that same defense later and gave up to you. All calls. Look good. If they work also bad if they don't work. Why lifelock there? Well. Yeah. We have an Corey Graham for a month. And when he came he just came back last game. Not having Rodney, certainly changes things. We've taken approach put in two linebackers on the field. We did that almost exclusively in two thousand sixteen. We can still be successful. Whether we're nickel or dime. Last year really wasn't a choice as much as it was an assess ity, and we made it work throughout season gave us some flexibility. We can we can have that same flexibility in our nickel baggage. All the injuries. If you've got city Jones back this week. Would you play him still in the in the nickel or would you put him outside? Yeah. I think we'll cross that bridge when we when we get to it. We'll just we'll see where he is in practice week. He's got experienced both. So we'll just see how that goes. I would Mona. I wouldn't want to telegraph it either way. Generators many turnovers last year. You know, you guys worried about turnovers I'm worried about stopping the run. I'm worried about getting third down stops. We take care of those things turn overs. Come. Tackling. Yeah. I mean, you know, you have guys and in physicians to tack on again tackling a lot of times you guys look at it. As a one on one thing. I don't look on tackling a one on one thing not always that you know, the guy getting the guy down. But it's everybody else supporting him. So he doesn't have to make a two way tackle and different things like that. Plus, it's it's tough situation. Sometimes when a guy has to make a tackle when a ball is broken through our front seven. We didn't see very many of those in the past. We saw a couple of them on on on Sunday night. And I mean, I'll do respect Elliott's a great run back, but we shouldn't give up rushing yards. Like that. About as any quarterback. He's come along right now. You can't rush it. You can't cover as people completing seventy five percent up from that. Sakhnin times when when you look at the film. What I mean? How do you approach it? Well looked at the MS interception. Real. That was one. Yeah. It didn't take very long to get through sack. Real in the interception. Real is incompletions yet. Didn't take us long to get through those. You know, I think it's it's I mean, he's playing insane level right now. But it is sort of a trend of where the NFL is when I was a kid. If a quarterback complete fifty percent of his passes that was considered pretty good. If he had his many touchdown passes interceptions. You know, you know, you considered playing pretty good quarterback. And then it started becoming you need so twice as many touchdowns as interceptions, and then you need to complete sixty percent of your passes. And now pretty much everybody is like near that seventy percent. I mean, he's close. He's close to eighty seventy seven point something. How about twenty one to one touchdown interception? Is that the new I mean, he's made those things to new standards. Extremely accurate quarterback smart knows where to go with the ball. Still has good mobility Kim by time, we certainly have a work cut out for him. And he's got good players around him. And they're also I think it's maybe lost in the fact that he's played at such a high level. They're very good run team also Ingram camario doesn't matter who to handball off to they've been very consistent one team. Very good. Offensive line on. There's a reason that their number one number one scoring offense in the NFL. I dare anybody to say that they're seven faster eighth best everybody that that charts yards allowed and yards gained and everything else points business, and and they're putting up points like like like like nobody else. All. Should. Every week. There is. I mean. Sundance and letter to the editor on those thinking probably guys probably get a lot of those. I don't know. I mean every week there's there's a valuation. I I always watched the film three times. One time is evaluating the scheme and where where we broke down on a play. The next is is looking at individual players and how they played within this game. And then the last time I circle a circle back is like was this ineffective. Call is there? A better alternative in those situations. Nobody ever calls a perfect game. And you're it's always a matter of trying to figure out why something didn't work and have a better alternative for the future. I mean, I'm sure if you ask wait Phillips he would say the same things been around for about thirty seven years. I mean, he's got me by quite a few. Real quick. I would imagine that for you know, like I said, you guys know my stats what army points allowed takeaways because one is our ability to control the game by keeping points off toward the other one is either scoring on defense to help the offense or putting the offense imposition score. I mean, he's got he had a half capsule on his hand. But we got chance to have picked six early in that game didn't make the make play. Didn't didn't know? It mean the chance to to really get a lot of momentum on our side. And go those plays when they are there. We gotta make them. We can't we can't. Hunt those plays and chase those place. When you do you start giving them gaps in your on game. You start you start guessing on routes and you start looking bad in coverage. When you start chasing turnovers, we need to guard against those things. Like, I said if we do a good job stopping the run. We do a good job getting stops on third down turnovers turnovers. Come they're important to us. But it's one of those things the the harder you try to get them. Sometimes the more you press on and the less likely to get them. While hill. You got the two. Well, we face wildcat before. I think the thing it's a little bit of a different challenge with hill. Is that he plays quarterback? He plays running back. He plays tight and he plays wide receiver. So you know, you wear so many hats that you have to cover them all those aspects. I think that's probably you know, wildcat plays read option plays. Those are those are nothing new. It's all the different things you have to be prepared for him lining up as wide receiver. He's he can block like a fullback. He can block like a tight end. You know? So it does it gives you a little bit more. Did you have any more? How much are you limited schematically by all these injuries by having to play guys who have played all seasons. Schematically non we can we can run our whole our whole defensive playbook. How's it going? Seems to be cut of repeating itself that same friend, right? Will we've put a lot of energy and thought into it. And we know it's an area that we need to improve on. You've been able to do a lot better throughout the course of the game. And it's something that if it was one thing, it'd be an easy fix. But it's a little bit of this a little bit of that kind of everybody's is taking share that. And pointing things out that need to be corrected. And trust me when I say this, you know, we're we're spent a lot of time trying to get it fixed. Play scrimmage what what needs to be corrected there. What? Well, I mean, we got. Lawrence Scott got up, and I got an edge. I mean, Jack is part of the plan the outlet plan there but want to try to get contain there. A little bit on that was added RPO, and is so who who are wrong options on on that. No, it was not an RPO now. Later games. Just there's a looseness to his game that we don't see early on you see that as well. Describe looseness. Dodges said settle any seems to be just fling. It a lot care for you all about it. Just a little light early games balls or sale at all little. Yeah. I mean, certainly someone in the game nights of the night and a lot of production. And like I said a moment ago we want to to be able to do that from the very beginning of the game and everybody recognizes working diligent diligently towards. Corey. Mm Magus coverage. They're going sire what coaching went there. Yeah. I mean, it was a bang plays. As a lot of screens are where you can get it started a chance for big big play in. You know in this case it didn't work out. I made a good play. Tempo are reasonable didn't play as much as maybe you guys expected. Did you think that was the case you guys plan to play more? Yeah. I mean, we brought him here to plan a lot. And you know, how it is in the first week where he's just building the foundation, and we had thought a healthy package place that he was ready to run. He and the coaches work really hard to prepare to be ready to go in there. And coach mentioned some of that. You know, maybe taking away a little bit when we got in. And some of the no huddle stuff that we do and maybe limited play count a little bit. But we we had a healthy package. Plays form in will continue to build on that. In the first place so much eleven in so little twelve. I think it's just how the game on folded to be honest. Yeah. Sean India zone. There was he sitting global always. The communication there. Yeah. I think shine hesitated. Just slight ever so slightly as the defender played out into and I think just through the tiny off just just a little bit. I mean, both guys were really where we anticipated being meeting. Carson. And how Sean we just we just missed apply. Unfortunately, he gets though his continue. Where rally. Yeah. I mean, he was friendly right there in window, and like I said the defender caused a little hesitation there. And and I just threw off the timing. Just just enough. Scripted plays. What's your will play those games? Yeah. I'm not going to get into the specifics of how we go about our game plan that I play out a little bit more. So. Wasn't RPO. But Zach was not a primary target there. Right. We had Sean Elliott. I'm sure you guys watch watch tape of the game. So you we have both those guys in the perimeter out there. Yes. Yeah. To get Lawrence. He was on was on lords. He was on. He will he didn't need and have an assignment her. Guys. I mean, do you think that maybe I plight to lock in one of the best? I'd rushers the NFL something to consider for sure. Plays. Josh adams. Something. Yeah. We're thinking thanks from Josh. And he continues to. Warrant consideration for more playing time. I think that you know, have missed spring and most attorney camp he's really starting to to play his best ball and see Josh move forward. Has the transition Frank Reich Hewitt offense, coordinator, gone s merely as expected has that transition negatively affected the offensive. Well, sitting here with the record. I we have you know, we're not pleased with where we stand and we have aspirants to to compete for the playoffs. And I think that we still in the playoff hunt, and we can do that. And we've talked about some of the things that need to improve to give ourselves the best chance to do that. What's that would exact against? I wouldn't get into specifics of everything that we've identified that we need to get better at. Legis understand its collection is not one person. It's not one play. It's it's it's all of us. This is greatest team game that there is. So it takes all of us. No man is an island. And you know, we all know that we we gotta do better. Lenses every thirty six foot in the change of life set of Europe knowing. Well, it doesn't in the fact that we feel like we wanna score touchdown. Every time we have the ball. We're not trying to take any series off. And obviously, we know that they're playing at a high level. And you know, we understand a challenge in front of us. But our goal each. And every time we run out. There is the score touchdown often brought up importance of doing well during the Wednesday Thursday Friday, finishing during the end that will translate into how you knew during the game. So what he made of teams practice efforts. We've had we've had good prices. Good good energy at practice attention to detail and the guys have been invested each and every day, they come in here and diligent in meetings and and carry the teaching out of the practice field. So, you know, again, it's not just one little thing. But in terms of saying that we're not practicing while I wouldn't say that's accurate at all. Routed pretty close is he's clear outdoor. We could. I think Nellie would say could have gotten of the field little bit faster there on that one. The game Adams from the right? What could happen different there? We we loud penetration. And we're gonna shut that penetration down on the edge. And no, they got an edge on us in force, you know, penetrated, and they stop it Ron made a good play on the state avocation media. What you guys pile up yards at not yet over four hundred yards again of disaster. You that there's just a couple of plays that are making a difference here defeat the offenses functioning between the twenties. Yeah. I mean, we certainly are moving the ball. We're we're making first downs. And you know, we're creating explosive plays in and. But we're not doing it consistently enough. And we're not finishing enough drive. So that we're not scoring enough points. And until we're score more points. We're not gonna be satisfied in. So that's that's what we're working towards each. And every day. Everybody has that same intent. Present. Is there something that he can do better or you feel like you guys aren't capitalizing on his production? Yeah. I think it we would all stand here and say that we all need to do better. I don't want to speak for Carson. But. You know as an offense. We know that we all need to do better. Because what we're doing right now is isn't getting the results that we want. Space in del thought of that. Yeah. They'll be some things that we can do there with that. Yep. I think it's probably to be determined handed pens on the play. You know, what what the the play is it's called and what we're trying to get down with just trying to put guys in spots where they do the things that best. So we make that determination where it's it's a good play for golden. And then he'll be in there. Questions together. Is it have you guys explored the possibility that maybe went says that his best working in scripted plays? Maybe eat just more of a quarterback that likes to play in the moment where it's not as kind of premeditated. No, I don't I don't. I don't think that's the case. You don't have any evidence that would support the I mean all these plan all these plays on the game plan. And you know, they could get called at anytime during the course of the game. In fact, get repeated during during the course of the game. That's una playing really. Well. I mean, obviously. They're keeping the teams points down and they're getting the ball back for their offense. So they've got some talented players over there. And again, it's it's going to be challenging environments gonna be loud. And we we got to get a good plan put together and have a good week of practice. And and go down there and play eagle football. Yeah. We'll we'll prepare for quite a bit. 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The Kist & Solak Show #71: Draft Need Power Rankings

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The Kist & Solak Show #71: Draft Need Power Rankings

"They. Hi, this is Jim. Check out our podcast step over. We'll be ballers podcast work for all of your Sixers needs layer analysis. Game breakdowns with a colts in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts he'd I tune Stitcher Spotify or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Michael kissed Benjamin so latte. It's the Kistin Solex show presented by SP and bleeding relation. High on the kissed and Solex showed. This is seventy one brought to you by the pipe pokes at SP nation and bleeding green nation. I am your host Michael kissed me on Twitter at Michael kissed NFL as always joined by the best dog on co host in the game, Mr. eight year streak without a bad day. He is Benjamin. So like all him on Twitter at Benjamin. So like, that's as L, aka Ben, how're you doing brother. Mike everyday is good day to be alive. I did not listen to a word you said is it seventy one or seventy two either way, I'm fine seventy one you got it average ace appears podcasts. I knew always comfy in the early seventies. I'm fine. Everyday's is a good day to be alive transitioning fully to the offseason has been a little low bumpy. I'd like to actually, you know, what PSA I love interacting on Twitter and answering questions I really enjoy it. I don't like a lot of what I wish I could get off it. But my favorite part is just you know, somebody has question about eagles. They have the freedom to add me, and I get to respond, and it's very helpful. But if you want me to respond, you can't come at me with like, you know, what are some good free agents for the team all of them ninety five like literally like every single one. But also potentially none of them like there's so little information. Leave you asked me like, hey, do you have an opinion on Trevan Colby hate you opinion, on is John saw right? I can give you that. Which needs to address in the first round of the draft any of six depending on who drops, you know, what I mean that that the questions just to those questions too wide for two eighty calendars, and I feel bags. I never answer them to people who like. Are good listeners to the show. So like with more specific questions, and I will gladly answer those, but whenever I get like random unsolicited like, hey, what's eagles roster going to be next year? There's a lot of moving parts here team. So transitioning to off-season man, it's always a good time. I love the off season. We we both enjoy a good deal. But there's got to be procedures in place for how to interact and specific questions is like prerogative number one. So what Ben is asking is that you hit him up with ninety three different specific requests about different free agents. And then go through each Nelson. That's fine. And I'm bringing bringing back the draft bag, which is the weekly draft mailbag that start in this week probably next week came very excited about it. And I want to answer questions like I'm telling you. I love it. And I think it's I I do like Java that I think we have a blast. I just need I need like you can't like what is gonna happen with every free agent ever into eighty characters. Can't either limits that that's beyond them. So Ben today show is going to be the all twenty two film review. Unfortunately of the eagles loss to the saints in the divisional round of the playoffs. Before we get to that. There were a couple of things that I wanted to talk with you about and get your opinion because I recently spoke with Zach Rosenblatt of nj dot com for BG and radio special. And I'm sure this is going to be talked about in BGN radio thirty two that comes out tomorrow. But the eagles as expected have Doug Carson Wentz the quarterback of the future. Big shocker if you've been brainwashed by some of the talking heads. But this puts the eagles in a situation with foale's where they can try to either retain his rights than he can opt out or they could tag them. It could all be one big dance or it could be over in a flash. I'm wondering where you think foles ends up is it in Jacksonville with flip. Now that he's the offense coordinator of the Jaguars. Not really don't. It doesn't move the needle at all. I didn't think foles to Jacksonville made sense before flip out. They makes too much sense after flip the primary. Arguing point here is that Wendy flip was the quarterbacks coach in Philadelphia the Naples stepped in and he was able to win a Super Bowl. Obviously. Now. Nick foles productive at that time us less productive. But still an officiant winning quarterback this year with Audi flip oh there and so develop out heading to Jacksonville means that you've guy who's been proven to be successful with Nick foles at the helm falls could end up in Jacksonville. There's a few problems there with that number one Di Filippo's like four on the ladder in terms of who has a say in what quarterback skip broaden, right? If we're talking about like con Coughlin, Marrone depot is for right? So that's my that's that's that's number one. If they're if they're bringing in Defoe Lippo with foale's in mind, this that's so early in the process from union meeting. That's just so aggressive that so preemptive like there's no way that front office has done the work on the quarterback class coming out that they'd like to do to the point. Where like there's no way were drafting dude at seven or a river somewhere. I think it's seven other no way were drafting the dude. So we have to look at the free agent market. Like that's really ambitious. Deflate but was brought in solely because they're like planning on tacking foles to me, that's very preemptive in terms of the offseason process. That's number one. I think Defoe is in a high enough ranking member of the Jacksonville Jaguars organization yet to come in with the intention of bringing in foals like it was a package deal or something. That's one too from what I've been told Tom Coughlin doesn't even think Nick foles that good and Coughlin Sunday foles of more than a few times when coffin was still at the giants. And Nick foles was playing for the eagles twenty thirteen twenty fourteen. Now, obviously opinions on a guy can change and opinions on Nick foles has chain have changed because. Yeah, he did the whole Super Bowl thing that I've changed things. But from what I understand at least back then coughing wasn't the biggest Nick foles fan. That's number two number three D flip bus accessible with Nick foles in twenty seventeen. Absolutely. But what what d- Philip is known for before that. And even during the Nick foles time is well developing young quarterbacks he what he was known for. In Oakland was being able to get success out of offense. That was led by row prior. When he was known for in New York being able to get success out of an offense that was yet led by young Mark Sanchez. But he was known for in Cleveland was getting success. Offense was led by Johnny Manziel. He can take young quarterbacks. Carson Wentz a twenty seventeen second year quarterback and he can get good offense out of them. Right. It's like he hasn't even been at a place long enough yet to the point where you can say like he like turns rookie he like improves the odds rookie quarterback. Good long-term. Like, I mentioned prime market. Mark Sanchez joining Menzel. Those three guys are not in the league anymore playing quarterback. Maybe Sanchez actually is for the Redskins. But either way I don't know if you would necessarily call it that. But yeah. Yeah. Those aren't guys who panned out. It's just that. They're mo- successful seasons came under Defilipo. He has an innate ability of good teaching technique, whatever it is to get quick effective ofensive production out of young quarterbacks. That's what we've seen over his career. Which to me means? Jacksonville's more. Positioning themselves to draft a guy than to bring in to bring in Nick foles def- Lippo's year coordinating offense for a veteran quarterback Kirk cousins go so hot. And obviously Mike Zimmer had a big impact on that. In like, you know, they had Kevin Stefanski just like waiting there who they wanted to the coordinator. Anyways, that situation ever made any sense when Steph LIPA was fired right Belykh? All he was to pass heavy. It was too much to route concepts multi break routes wasn't enough. Like, you know, like triangle, reads, Hatfield reason, whatever so like it didn't work super. Well, when Wendy full of behind the veteran quarterback what he's really good at is finding what what young quarterback a strong at maximizing it and then hiding the weaknesses. That's that's what he's been successful careers quarterbacks. Coach offensive coordinator to me that indicates that there the Jaguars going young for the Jaguars are looking to draft quarterback to me this this screams doing Haskins a lot louder than screams foles you want to Nick foles, right? Go get any west coast, Gordon, ever, not the guy who's had to separate. Jobs as offense coordinator and was fired after both years of being off a tornado. Right. Like he was coordinator in Cleveland for a year. And I was going to Minnesota for a year and was fired after both of those years now put out a decent offense in Cleveland. He was more so fired because the regime changed and the Minnesota, obviously, there's the mitigating circumstances. But still like he wouldn't be my guy if I was going to bring in a veteran quarterback. I love you flip. He wouldn't be he his strength is working with those young quarterbacks right away. So to me, this doesn't make foles any more likely to go down in Jacksonville. There's not like there's there's a clear connection there. But there's already too much evidence against him Pinon. And that's interesting, and I was going to ask you if you thought if you had to choose between drain Haskins and Nick foles in Jacksonville, which one was more likely, obviously, you're leaning towards Haskins which might cost a pretty penny in the draft to be able to move up to make sure that they secure him there. I don't think. So I think the Jacksonville Jaguars who are currently picking at seven. I think they can get Haskins seven the only threat they have to getting. Haskins at seven there are two actually that I think are feasible the New York Giants actually wanting to get a quarterback, which from everything I'm hearing from the giants is not likely which like, okay, whatever do your thing. New York number one number two is a team like Miami or Oakland moving on from their incumbent and going to draft the guy end Oakland's at four Miami's at five Jacksonville at set. Like, I think it's very plausible this time plausible something can be at this time. I think it's plausible that Haskins at seven to Jacksonville. No-trade up is totally clean. That's for sure. They would have to be really confident in that that those teams were not moving up, and we're starting to hear things you can have you can have a draft night trade, the humiliate like, you know, you could absolutely see a team like Miami. You know, giving enough of a vibe off enough of like, I think trying to force the trade up for maybe Jacksonville guest into a staring contest. Right. Just to make the Jaguar spend the money for like that makes sense. Obviously, you don't want them to get him for free. It's this with the role pick. I like, I don't think there's going to be. A super big bidding war in the top five to go up. And Dr Haskins. I really don't I don't think has canes that good. And I don't think teams the quarterback that bible. I see that point. And I see a whole lot of teams when we see this every year working out quarterbacks really heavily than not drafting them because they want to push the price up which will be interesting to see how the Jaguars respond to that type of counter pressure from these other teams if they a little lot antsy and decide to make a big move up. We'll see what the giants do. I mean like you said everything coming out of New York sounds like they're totally comfortable with the ally. Manning, which is fascinating to me. But do your thing you ready? You ready for this piping? Hot January take boy hit me with it to ring in the twenty seventeen in unlocked on eagles. We had Jimmy Kamsky. And and Jim we talked Jimmy who thinks win the division and Jimmy. I remember if he said he thinks it was a giant or the drives for the biggest threat to win it. He was pretty confident that it was. Yeah. But he was on the giants. I'm not saying this attraction is two years ago. And I was like I think the giants can be really crummy and this year where a lot of media members were on the giants. The giant suck the twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen they draft saquon Barkley number two of her all they brought a Nate solar in free agency the traded for Allio gotree who some reason mattered in the grand scheme of things the giants getting supply began again for the twenty eighteen off season. I said man, I think the giants gonna suck yet. Mike, I'm here to tell you giant sucked. Again, it's early twenty nine hundred the giants can be. All right. I think Johnson be a better team improved him for nineteen. The offense was good for the back half of the season. Or was you can't fault them for thinking for fooling themselves into thinking that they can continue to produce points manning. I don't think it's the right way to manage your team in the long term to not have a guy waiting behind your at this point is career in inconsistent thirty eight year old quarterback. But I'm not charge. The giants. Good news for eagles James butter, the defense coordinator there, I think did you lot with. The little and right? They add some pieces there. I think they can hide some things from that offense and make it to where that impact of having an inconsistent offense isn't so bad, but they have enough weapons to where they can put up points, and they can be a dangerous team. So we'll we'll see when two thousand eighteen rolls around which is stick with that ten they'll come off a little bit more. But let me go in every year. Now, moving we're gonna have the inaugural August, Ben decides the fate of the giants episode, and that's inaugurals make sense third year. Running bend is has a face the deficit. And I think this you finding change my tune. But he like yet, Nick foles. We're talking about the giants. Do you think the drives make sense for Nick foles? It's been a spy that people have talked about your. I'm not really buying it a little bit of smoke. There were like ROY could see that. But it's it's a weird fifty. It's a weird fit for foles in New York, like scheme wise, personality wise, like I I don't I don't know, man. I I don't get it. And this this goes back to an ex coach. And that relationship just like immediately kind of like drawing quick line without looking deeper into it. The head coach of the giants. He was the eagles offense coordinator from twenty thirteen than than through twenty fifteen and interim head coach after that. And the thirteen fourteen we're foles two years where he was there in he was in Philadelphia Philadelphia's while playing under Shurmur, so he does have familiarity with Shurmur nomenclature and Shurmur, you know, like a the concepts. How is plays established the money then think of the money that you'd have to if you go, and and you watch the offense Shurmur runs, right? It doesn't look like the chip Kelly offense. Correct. That foles will successful. Ed, so Shurmur was was falls off accordion. Here's productive. He had the title office coordinator, they were running chip Kelly's offense, right? He was there to put in small pro-style implements into his college offense. And they've and Shurmur is grafted things from Kelley the same way. The entire league is grafted things from Kelley. Yeah. But this is not like full not returning to assist him. Which had been successful. He just be returning to a guy. He had seen met, right? Which there's a lot of dues you've met before. And you plainly that link isn't a strong, and I don't think lately, you you have to move on from ally. Manning, right? You have to four Nick foles wrecked because the money the nothing else makes sense you draft a rookie great. You can straddle the line a little bit through training camp and figure out what it is you need to do right now. The Mara's mismanaged that in twenty seventeen when they hide ally manning to to Coughlin we're all connecting the dots here. Every right, listen. So you you draft a rookie. You can try to the line. You can like, oh, we don't know. You know, Carson Sam Bradford what's gonna happen. You know? And you you can figure it out as you go along. But if you bring in Nick foles, if you pay Nick foles money, the expectation is he will be playing over Eli. And now you've got to sell your fan base in your team. No Eli for this, dude. Why was he this dude who won't be? But he's also still this, dude. He's still just Nick foles. A he is not a, you know, he's not like a surefire. Quarterback on the freedom market because those don't exist because really quarterbacks don't hit the free agent market. That's the other thing. We're not talking about here. Right, right. The best quarterback to hit. The free agent market was Kirk cousins in like five ten years. He got three years for a million fully guaranteed. His team did not play offs this year. The reason quarterbacks major market it's because you need one to win. And so if you get one you don't let him hit the free market. So the fact alone that foams is probably going to be on the free agent market should be signed enough way the way, I agree with you. I don't see the giants. I think he's going to get like a chase. Daniel Luke mccown, maybe case keenum at the top end sort of deal keenum. I think it was like two years forty million for the Broncos that sort of a deal to go like play in Washington or like Miami for two years people have said Oakland, if they move on from Derek Carr, again, that's a situation where you're moving on from a dude who is quote unquote, the franchise for like, Nick foles. How is that compelling convincing? Maybe it is like the Nichols teammates. Really love him. Maybe that'll translate over. I don't know regardless. I think he ends up at a weird journeyman spot where it's never like this. Nick foles team. All right. This is Nick foles team while we wait for it to be X other guys team, you know. So I don't know. It's it's it's gonna be fascinating follow Jaguars would be like a neat fit. I don't see it happening. So let's take a quick with of the NFL draft before we get to the main topic, which is quickly shrinking into these sub topic of this show. I mean, I feel like sussing out foles import thing to do. No, absolutely. That's why I wanted to talk about it on perfectly fine. When this discussion so talking about the NFL draft. Let's talk about this. Because Brandon Graham is now saying that he owes it to his family to test the free agency market. We all know the thing we're after locker room clean out on on the last day there. He was hugging. The media members, quote, unquote, just in case, which is just an awesome gesture which we should have been there. We should have. We should have gotten our hellish notified us who have had out the Philadelphia civic. I'm Brian grabs hud's for BG, hugs. That's my dream. But look along with Graham, probably leaving testing the market. You also have Brandon Brooks the Pro Bowl guard needing surgery for his torn achilles. The eagles enter the season with some new holes. Because of that, let's say for this exercise Graham has gone. We know Brooks is going to be ready for the beginning of the season is likely not what is it like two hundred sixty five days to seventy day turn around for twenty Gillies behind table that Brooks gave to the media was six eight months. Why is she is bud nana's? Like do. They have a new surgery for the new surge. Six months for at achilles recovery would be fast for a one hundred seventy pound dude. Like we're talking about a three hundred plus pound guy like that achilles needs to carry a lot more weight. It needs to be stronger. The muscle. It's it's like bigger there's just more surface area at least like repair. That's just the reality of like of ligament tendon injuries for bigger dudes at the pressure that that old so yeah, I don't anticipate seeing him until October next year. But he's giving time like, oh, maybe training camp, which would be nuts that would be wild. So Brandon Brooks, Brandon Graham, Jason Peters like. Retires. Who knows about Chris long will. I mean, you look at the offensive line the defensive line of what's happening here from a health and from a transitional perspective, let's say for the Sixers is all those guys are gone. If you had to power rank the top needs for the eagles in that case. How would you rank them? So the right. So we don't know exactly. Who's leaving free agency? That's the big issue. And so the first thing you do is you scratch off the positions. You definitely don't need the draft to give yourself like a narrower view quarterback won't be addressed in the draft cornerback won't be addressed in the draft wide receiver is not any in the drafts golden Tate and Mike Wallace. Both leave still not a need about galore, alshon, Jeffery MAC Hollins. And then what you're going to you draft day three or you bring in a street free agent, which for wide receivers are a diamond dozen Jordan Mathews stays there's your for being out. Like, you know, this is not why she need tide is on any on. So those positions you're positive. You're not gonna need to address you cross off right away. If everybody. These from what I've been told Chris long is almost definite retire. Jason Peters better. Hope he retires because if he doesn't then have on cutting him, I think they do have to cut him in that situation. I completely agree. There were people talking about this last year because of the cap hit not trusting him coming back from an injury. He was banged up all season long. Now, he's a year older y'all said the toward bicep that he had to play through this year. I mean, there's all types of issues with him. He didn't play the last quarter of the game. I didn't even realize because I was so focused in and I'd turn the tape on. And I look for a quarter in its Italian. They're stinking of the joint once again, and I just get frustrated that that's could be are starting tackled next year. I hope thinking wine my top position is often tackle left tackle, right this visible things. Get tricky because I absolutely have office of tackle very high. Do I think the eagles do what I hate about this. I don't want tight end not even thinking about putting him into certain people's on my lot of my lot is not going to be ready for that yet. Not not not that. Today have too many bodies at tackle to prioritize it like what like here's the issue. You have Jason Peters last year was contract ten point six million dollars cap. It honestly isn't terrible. If he comes back to like decent starting four from his injuries this year. It's not awful, but you are to potentially save eight million flat out if you cut him they're not gonna cut him though. I really don't think they will. Because we end because of the relationship that they have we said this last that was a big reason that they wouldn't year later. I don't know, man. I don't know if they have a sit down talk with you. You're breaking down right Anatolia. I'll tell you right now if Jason Peter stays hope Levi's, obviously there during my Ladas their lane Johnson as they are those four stay as him also swing tackle ability. They're not traffic tackle high high. Now, sumo here's how to tackle so bad. He's five don't dispute that. But they have like four. Point five bodies. So they think they're going to be able to hang right now. Also, Matt prior can also kick ass is you have five bodies five to have foretold four holes right now. Now, you want to say, oh, well, she's a retired level drafts replacement. Here's what's tricky about that hopefully divide ties in the last year his deal in twenty nineteen right last year was rookie deal. So if Peter's retires than they can say, listen if we draft the tackle right now. And we start him over big v and he's shaky were screwed because we don't know if we extend big v and put him in over the rookie tackle. And then we're trying to develop this guy. But there's a guy in front of him with a new contract or we leave the rookie lead Biggby walk in the rookie of develops. Now. We don't have our swing tackle anymore. So Jason Peters retires with one year left on big deal. They are going to in my opinion play big v for that one year. And if he if he's passable if he's fine than you extend him, and if he's not then you draft the rookie, and you let big be walk. How can you possibly look at any Tate? The big v put out there this year from preseason to the end of the season the last game of the season the quarter that he played all of it was he's regressed from your from a rookie everyone. Wants to talk about development. I will counter with development is not linear sometimes players. Don't take a step forward. There are taking a step forward in this league. People figure out that player. They figure out how to beat them and they get beat. That's how it is you being eight year eight months older does not make a difference in that. And that's what we've seen happen with tied. People have figured him out. It's not like he's being beat by Myles Garrett. Every rep it's every almost cursed. Everyone is beating him. I don't think he's regressed. I think that's aggressive while I agree. Listen. Okay. Well, it's been a hot second has. I watched two thousand sixteen Honda Ballade via tape. I watched six hundred snaps of his in the summer, and I can tell you this year were his worst snaps weird flex, but. Okay. And I resent because I did it for that piece. Where I was like. Yeah. This guy eight it coming right and season. I said if he's regressed then that just means stout lens going to think he can get him back to. I was like, you know. I mean, that's the problem. Like, my issue it may she with them. I don't really have an issue with it. Because. You know, I agree with you on big, but arguing devil's advocate slash for the eagles. You could have said a lot of what you just said about Isaac's Malo who had a bad game against the saints. But overall played to I would say a low end starter degree this season low to middle starter starter we have less on him. But we have even less at at tackle where he's been awful same other tackle like that. That doesn't matter that was that's just like them. Like, you know, like they're swing tackle mercy thing what I'm saying. Is you could have made the same argument for same last season. You just made for big this off season, which means that, hey, they're going to try to like development, especially like, you know, the whole narrative art, like now, the peers has gone he knows he's the man's those games gonna step up. I'm just saying when I look at it contract lies when I put on my little salary cap general manager hat the fact that via ties in the last year. It was contract is huge. It's massive because it means if you put by tie in and he's poor you really only have to deal with it for one year. You have one year you can go on the free agent market and grab a stopgap. If you. If he's that terrible. And then you just drop the rookie in twenty twenty twenty nineteen people are going to think Carson Wentz his injury prone because of big that's what's going to happen. If they start already think ours was injury prone need help with that. It's worse. That's that's my situation with offense tackle, I really had a two round mock draft, and I didn't give them a single offence of tackle on people. Ask me why I six out they're gonna address in the first picks at least at this juncture now they shrine game. They've talked with multiple offense tackles shrine, so far, but Tryon is also like David prospects. It's not early prospects. So they could be adding these bodies they might think of as you'd EFA types not necessarily draft picks. So yeah, there may be looking at taking a swing in that case now inside offense of line. I kinda get as far as not that being a massive priority. Or at least, that's the way you see it because Brooks will eventually be back with new sqi is still on contract and see a Malo is obviously still on contract. So you can kind of make that work the only bomb show that happens is Jason Kelsey retires. I don't think he's going to. Maybe they. Won the Super Bowl yet. Okay. You start to think about it. But he's got too much less than to retire right now, in my opinion. I don't know the guy personally, but that's the way I see things. So I could see them not going into your offense of line early. So my top need is offense of tackled. After that. If Brandon Graham has gone and Chris long retires on has to be edge. Right. It has to be a pass rusher. Number two. Or is that your number? You know, what I mean though, right? I think I think what you have to do. There was a there was a very distinct point we're high rosement his press conference made it clear that starkly good draft at defensive tackle and defensive end. Right. When you have a player like Michael Bennett. You don't have to address edge or have to address defensive tackle at twenty five. Just get which everyone is better while he's there right off. And then okay. She got to tackle when out Bennett's playing your strong side edge. Okay. You got a defense van when Bennett's plan your three tack like, you know, what I mean, the human kind of screw around with it a little bit that way as long as you saw the problem of edged wherever Michael Bennett is exactly that we're. We're good, right? So yeah. My my thing with this is like I think you saw Fletcher Cox put up career numbers in a year in which he had less help next to him as compared to previous seasons with. But even with convo Allen who is more of a pass rush thread than. How alone Ottawa's this year? We have Bennie Logan next to him when he had to journey next to him for a whole season last year. Right. You this was fudge cogs. Most productive season. He had so little help next to him. You're sitting there wondering Chris Boston man, if I get another really good penetrating three technique next Fletcher Cox, and they can't always double Fletch. Oh, yeah. Right. Like, listen Aaron Donald out here is setting single season for defensive tackles in the year in which Dhamma consumers next to him. That's not an accident. I mean, obviously, he's going to go higher than this. I believe. But like if you put a guy like Jeffrey Simmons from Mississippi State next Fletcher cocker who I gave him Christian Wilkins, Clemson and Wilkins is great because Wilkins's three hundred ten pounds. So he can play the one tech. Yes. If you're really worried about size that position which typically isn't. But like if you are Hayes center guard deal with this three hundred ten Pounder, we're going to let your Cox on every guard in the league, which if you get a guy who's big enough to anchor against the double team in the running game. So you can put him at the one technique at the point of attack in the gap. He's still represents enough of a pass rush threat that he maintains the double team, you're living Fletcher Cox right guards for sixteen gains, which is hope problem. So I think my my number one need as I look at the team right now is defensive line Schwartz wants to go to deep on the line. And the defense is predicated on the rush and so to me defensive lines. Where is where it's happening. But to my second biggest need for the team if it's me, it's offense of tackle. But putting that off to the side because we acknowledged a weird situation your second biggest need to safety. And the reason I say that as this number one you had one safety go down this year, and it destroyed her defense for thirteen games, you were dealing with this. You did not have a capable safety three you need what? Especially in were big nickel dime. That's the thing. You want to address twelve personnel. You address teams with big slot. Receivers. You want to address him good pass catching backs. Get three safeties out in the field. You need to have a guy can play the medal and you behind Rodney McLeod, Malcolm Jiang's, too. So good. You're not even putting him in the middle. You're leaving him up. So you need to go back there and running MacLeod as a potential cap casualty this year coming off of injury. Right. Ten million roughly like nine point six million cap hit four point six million dead cap or four point eight believe too little bit much you typically don't see a team cut a guy when? He's fifty percent dead cat. But it's possible especially if he's coming back from injury next season. He's a much easier. Cut ten point six million dollars cap at like a two million dollar dead cap, very likely cut. If you have a guy behind him to step into his shoes, I've safety as a as a significant need for Philadelphia. And that's something that we talked about last year in there, and I'll never complain about drafting Dallas Goddard, but two guys that we really liked for a lot of the reason that you just noted Malcolm Jenkins, getting old running McLeod is eventually going to be a cab casualty we need a safety three especially since we like to run that big time big nickle package set. I mean, two guys I liked and we already talked about Justin read before the Houston game. I also like Jessie Bates who's ball out in Cincinnati right now. So that is a position that I really would love them to address the because the depth the age the cost all three are working against the eagles. As we start to move along into the future. Here they need to inject some cheat youth into the position at a higher value in which they've invested before. Like, they try Jeremy Reeves UD FA, they tried trae Sullivan. We saw how that worked out people were growing about trae Salvin playing while in the bears game. I don't think he did. He was awful in this saints game. Terrible. And has not been good than is currently like the definition. Like like if you asked me to show tape on a safety who's quote on comfortable in coverage out show. Trace elevates the saints because like at every snap. He was like, okay. And what is going on? Golly is happening. I it's not even like bad. It's just there's a lot of panic there. A lot of like on certainly there's a lot. There's a lot of like I'm going to be wrong. So I got a jump whenever I see immediately. Registering very uncomfortable. Guys. Couldn't get connected all game. They were. So unsure of everything they were seeing. I mean, we we saw game from a lot of players to we should be talking about it. If you want to transition into like, ten minutes of all twenty. But now the thing is like like you had the saints. Just put Niger Batum and Corey Graham and then trace into states of conflict the higher game. It was just occupy outside corners get Alvin Kamara on a linebacker or get a slot wide receiver up. You know, get an inquiry grams area sent to routes in courtrooms area running dagger running sale running double post and just force Corey Graham to choose. And when it was trace of deep force trae Sovan to choose and those players can choose the couldn't split the difference. And they didn't know how to overlap coverage with their teammates, and you had. Guys regularly running out of position we coming into the draft said safety need is a problem, and they didn't draft the safety and number one oversight here is no safety. Choreograph was on the team. Yeah. And it was like, oh, well, they'll just bring Corey Graham back, and I was like that's not good enough. And then we went through camp and save the problem trace levels applying while Corey Graham back, and that's not good enough the safety depth killed in this year. It was it was something that that you could see developing as a problem on the roster since the end of the Super Bowl run. And so, you know, you you really expect to get that handled. The free agent safety market is generally good, though. Like we saw last year. Like trae Boston was just sitting on the market for hours. And I don't know why. Philadelphia didn't sign him. Very boss would have been a great third safety for safety. It's gonna get have names on it. You know? No, none bigger than Theron Matthew who's very likely to hit the market as well out of out of Houston. So Philadelphia may elect to go that direction because they know that the safety market is is generally strong Frazier. Agency. But I expect them to bring in a safety three. After what you saw this year. It has to be done. There's two more positions that I wanna talk about quickly before we get out of here. I'm just gonna label. This power ranking the the draft here because we've totally gone past the point where we can address the this is typical like this is like if we took a pre show conversation. That's usually three minutes and made it just like forty five just kept talking like, you know, we don't have to start yet the linebacker position with what's going on Jordan Hicks. We said before what we're comfortable with. We are comfortable with three years twelve million dollars to bring him back to play linebacker force which weird is since week eleven since he got banged up his so package snaps on passing place all win tonight job Radom, we saw huge shift in that even when Hicks came back. And I don't know. It's that's because they thought Hicks was limited still in some way. By that injury, regardless when Hicks was on the field is much better linebacker, Brad them. How to good game guest the bears against the saints as we were talking about he? It was very very bad Rodham covered they are yet in which he was standing in. How far he could put his arms that's the area that he covered. He never got connected to anybody in that zone coverage. He was constantly playing. Batum is is so much so much better. When you give him the opportunity to play in man that ends up exact which he used to like twenty sixteen. He was killing zone. What happened? Yeah. Same same total drop off in coverage for me. I have I have tweets that are hated deep deep deep that like listen Nitra Brad onto the best coverage linebackers in the league from like two years ago, and they just sit there, and I just pray note ever finds them. He was like a top five Jubi rating in yards per route run allowed like all that stuff last year. He was a top five linebacker on year like his strength is rally in tackle. But when you can get you can he doesn't have good zone. Coverage awareness in terms of depth than what's developing behind him. And how to react to a quarterback's is inside. And so you can throw windows behind him and you can manipulate Mazda short zone defender if something happens in front of him. He's eager. Best rally in tackled offender, and there's sort zones even with Chroma Blunk plan was hair on fire. So it's like, you know, understanding strength will be MRs. That's why like he's at his best ones. Just man coverage. Just go run and get connected to a guy and hit him. Like this little, you know, see red get red situation. So what about the linebacker position if they don't bring Hicks back? You've got Brad him who you really can't move on from financial until next year. I believe is a lot of dead cap this year. I think I think it's four million dollars into this year too, many dollars dead cap that you're after that's when you can kind of move on from with the I remember when he signed his extension. It was like a two year deal with like three more option years, basically tach to it. Right. So do you stick with Brad? Komo gruza hill Nate, Jerry. Yeah. I don't anticipate that moving on from Brad, if they lose heck's like those they just keep rattle through the remainder of his contract as long as he's planning to that degree, obviously. Yeah. I don't intimate them drafting bringing in another starter at linebacker Hicks leaves. I think that they're going to go Bradley, KOMO probably Nate, Gary. They're going to want to be there three which is scary. But they'll they'll walk in camp with him as their three they'll probably as they have done. Now, you know, other be Paul Warrilow who you know, early injury. But if Paul Paulo low and loo ROY Reynolds like eagles are very fine. And Hafer a couple years now under Howie just brought in veteran linebackers today. K are you good a special teams hang out over here? We might need you, you know, they until they that's linebacker four in. That's not super strong. What it's fine. You know, you're typically only two linebackers having Gary's linebacker threes in a huge problem and talking about platelet KOMO this is third year with the eagles. He's taken step forwards in your one year to given his background and his strength. You expect him to be able to be a good nickel dime. Linebacker in terms of coverage in terms of blitzing. That's something that he should play to his strengths like his weaknesses are his run fits his diagnosis in his play in the box in the trees. We call it like Mundy's up against big offense of tackles. Yeah. And so. You don't hate him as a linebacker next. Brad. Who's a very good run defense. Linebacker because KOMO brings good pass defense skills. Like, you want him to continue developing the runs who's not a liability in that regard. But he does project nicely to like a linebacker who comes in in sub package situations. You know in is available on third down. So I think they would stick with Brad. And KOMO that being said I do intimate them retaining Jordan X happens. Yeah. I agree. Last question before we get out of here. We have to have a discussion about the running back situation going on with that assuming they don't sign a free agent. Anyone if they do like to be honest. It's going to be a committee most likely the feel like running back as a high priority for them like a talk with Zak Rosenblatt about it. We don't live on bills coming here. If the Jaguars when move on from Leonard for net. I can't see him coming here. I can't see them spending significant money or significant drab capital either on running back know a lot of people wanna play maker at the running back. Position. I don't know if the eagles value it that highly. I mean, they win after j j I get that. But they also don't want to spend a whole lot of money. People forget that Jay Ajayi was on a rookie contract. That was that. She deal for us. Just cost us the draft cat or fourth round pick for a fourth round pick. Right. That's low capital. You got a fourth round rookie on a fourth fourth round rookie deal like that's super cheap. So don't let that kind of full you and the money we paid la- blunt wasn't exactly gigantic either. So with the running back position where would you put it on their needs as far as like your power rankings is even in like the point where you're like, oh, they could go there. Maybe early round to if they are late round to absolute. I absolutely think they could potentially go there around two. Yeah. Okay. Here's that's when it starts to make sense for me round. One makes zero sense whatsoever. Would not do it especially with this class. Right. Here's the thing. Number one. We're assuming do Staley is celebrating backs coach which do Staley has every aspiration to be more than running back like, you know, assist. Head coach whatever that is. And so if he has a greener pasture somewhere, I think he's bolting and he's taking window Smallwood with them. Right. H no shirt, you can have window take him. You know? I'm very like. Oh, no, please. Don't okay. So it was swimming coach Staley loves is running back by committee. That's something that we've seen him do consistently. I see where you're going with. This of like, this is the running back by committee Staley preference because they leave a lot of that to him. I don't even know if grow grow his said that he doesn't go to some of the running back like like meetings like he's not in that running game coordinating room. So when you're like, here's my thing when you're in running back meetings Jeter are not winning run by Zia when you're in meetings this year when you're working on the team in the off season Doug brings like deuce in. And he's like, hey, so you ran your running back by committee this year like, yeah. Does give how'd that go. The ends has got to be like, not great. You know, obviously that period of time where it was, you know, Smallwood atoms. God knows you know, like it was like sometimes Corey for a little bit. And then, you know, obviously sprawls come back for a little bit. Like, obviously, you're dealing with scraps people's crafts, you're dealing with the bottom of I understand that. But Philadelphia never had a game this year. We were like man, the running attack really took over until week fifteen against the Rams where like, you know. And it was the first sprawls back in the Rams had no idea. What was going to happen on tape in Philadelphia? Just ran twelve. I nail down there tiny linebackers throats beautiful. You have to consider for Philadelphia underdog Peterson underdo Staley are your what we had a job was a fourth round pick a fifth round pick traded a fourth round pick forum. But a giant was always more talented than that was the talent level of a really won a feature restyle back. Do we need that to make the committee work? Do we really do? We have to have a one a and there's a lot of evidence to yes. And if that's the case. You're gonna have to get that guy on day two. Like if you want a fifteen touch per game lion's share of the twenty two carries you handout catches, another three balls. You're gonna have to get that run to around three and you can in this class. Most of the good running backs in this class are ideal Yvette that ideally one a guys who aren't taking twenty five touches the game as Kelly style. So I do think that you have a shot to go round to the very legit. If you're really married to this like we have spoils for more year Adams developing nicely, and let's keep Wendell Smallwood just for fun and Boston's God album free and Corey Clement. I brother Corey if we got like six seven names in this house right now, let's add another day three guides make things harder for self and pick the best four like I could see them doing that. They've had two successes back to back years with UDF as so it wouldn't shock me. If they really bring in another one, they try to make him a thing that's worked for them. But it's realistic me there could be conversations this year in the off season say like we need to make sure that we have a fifteen touch guy. And that guy's gonna cost you a round three pick. So you gotta get him. So let's wrap this up. Let's list. Right. Do you all my actual rankings? Now that we talked about the my never answer the question. That's correct. Give my I that will hit yours up offense of tackle number one edge number two interior defense alignment number three going back to our conversation. I mean, give me some pass rescue me some depth on good with either one call it to weigh in to be safety number four interior offense of line number five as my top five. Yeah. I'm defensive line one too. So as interior interior edge, whatever it is three from his office. Tackle forest safety five is running back. I'm not gonna have interior on the needs less than till calc-. Retires like that it's not a need for the team on less Kelsey lease interior offense, lineman and running back. I could swap those no problem. You're talking about the fiction, and I would definitely attack running back before I did interior offensive line as well. So maybe I should switch those. Just talk myself out of did you talk that works. That's exactly how that works. That's that. Yeah. Us mike. We just saw the process. Live in action. 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The Kist & Solak Show #95: We Expect Big Things for Reasons

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The Kist & Solak Show #95: We Expect Big Things for Reasons

"Copy that listening again, Benjamin so Lang. It's the kissed in Solex show presented as being nation and bleeding, great nation. You are flying high on the kissed and so lacks show. This episode ninety five brought to you by the five folks at SP nation and bleeding green nation. I am your host Michael kiss. Follow me on Twitter at Michael, kissed NFL bets. K ST, as always joined by the best dog co host in the game eight year streak without about he has Benjamin. So follow him on Twitter at Benjamin. So like, that's as L. A K, Ben, I am looking at the analytics of the hashtag jersey number and Olympic show Ness, and it's a hit baby how you doing dude every day to be alive. Didn't listen to the number thinks ninety five Michael kendricks anyway. I really very cheerful. I we did the jersey number analytics pod, which was an absolute hoot and holler, it was a blast. And also, by the way matters hers, disparaging comments vow the legitimacy of this technique, which I can tell you hold significant water. You know, you do a little T tests over the past fifteen years slow. Har squared value. Other terms, I know normal distribution. What's all that stuff predict success? And like you said, I if you take this, and you take name analytics, and you blend the two together, really name jersey named jersey number only things you need to know about a player to determine whether he'll be good if a ball. And so we're really excited to bring that incisive actually say, incite full commentary to you, but I'm very well. I'm trying to adopt the dog, which means I'm just looking at pictures of dogs on the internet during class everyday for the past two weeks. It's the best thing I've ever done. I don't even I don't even want to make choices that I can just continue browsing photos. So I've got a big husky. What kind of dog are you leaning towards as the favorite? Well. So it's tricky, because I've always wanted for my entire life, a tank, I've always wanted a unit. I've always wanted an eighty plus bound him. I like my yellow lab back home is like she's half. The she's like sixty plus she's part, hounds she's big. But I've always wanted, like like, you know, like I like boxer Attari. Got the wide stance hold on unit. But you know in the new apartment with Veon say, probably not the best idea room. So probably something smaller, which we're going to adopt obviously in. So we're gonna get something that's muddy probably not have a super like clear choice. My fiance Meredith is convinced gonna find a corgi to adopt. And I've been trying to break the news that doesn't really happen. Yeah. But there is there these Australian shepherds even looking at that really q-. There's some like, you know, pit bull terrier mixes that are a little bit smaller super cute. So we're just gonna go. I'm gonna fall in love with the second dog. I see I'm gonna put my foot down stamping hold my breath until I get what I want. And then pretty much I move in June. And then by July, if I don't have a dog I'm not throwing temper tantrums. I can't imagine you're going to any place where puppies or dogs are available on you not leaving within ten minutes with a dog or puppy. It's so funny because when I was younger like, you know, it was never a big nude. But you'd go to like France house has never been to before. And they be like, well sorry we have a dog. He's big he jumps. I will be honored to be knocked to the floor by your animal like please release hit like let's do it. I want to be slaughtered on I love dogs with fashion. Mayor is trying to convince me that a cat is a better I pet. No. So they got two cats got the Hemingway cast at the extra digits that super creepy when they start petting. You're headed got they've got these huge paws, it's, it's crazy. I there's only one sort of cat that I want to get that I'm excited to get getting goes back to the dog a wanna fat. I wanna real Chavez Chongqing. I wanna cat where like the Tommy drags on the floor and lays there and looks like feed you in Vissel that, that's my that's my, that's my vibe in cat, right there dog cat chatter here on because sin Solex show, isn't the off-season in my. It's definitely. It's definitely MAI and actually wanna dial back on the be before we start talking about the main topics. Let's talk about what those offer a second first off. We're going to talk about your post for bleed agree nation dot com, which was is the two thousand eighteen roster. More loaded than the two thousand seventeen Super Bowl roster. Which is a good question. Will break it down. Were also gonna break down my poster bleeding greenish dot com. That talks about the adjusted games loss, which is a metric by football, outsiders that show some interesting facts about the eagles last season before we do that again. Let's dial back because his appointment show. We wanna capitalize on the popularity of hashtag jersey number analytics, I got a little story here on a promise you, this is going somewhere when I was in a thirty two man, Madden league background six years ago, by the way through Super Bowl wins six Super Bowl appearances in eight years. No big deal. L C you're worse than the patriots. A video game. Good point. I had a two quarterback system. So I'm a stationary pocket passer in Madden. I don't play anymore but I was I'm not. Looking run around and make plays out of structure, unless it's absolutely necessary. I'm looking to work my timing and rhythm throws down the field. Take the occasional shot on for verts off play action. So my team that I used was the bills because the eagles were taken by longtime player shutout Dame. Oh, friends show, that was the year that they drafted EJ manual first round pick. Nobody knew he was terrible yet including the folks that Madden. He recently retired by the way, they got twenty thirteen E-Class exactly though. Big ups twenty thirteen draft in general so early on how to develop manual. So I built the built the old line I established dominating run game. But one thing I did early was draft a quarterback late with great short accuracy speed, and broken tackle ratings, so EJ manual ward. Number three this new quarterback that I drafted who I was gonna use on read options because they just introduced the read option that urine is a little bit overpowered. So I wanted to incorporate that into my life. So I had this Willie Beamon fellow where number eight so incredibly hard to tell the difference just on the number. And then they're like crouched over and it's just it's really not noticeable. So it doesn't jump out at you. Now, the great thing, exact same skin tone. And I ended their accessories to have the same half. Leave the same gloves. The same visor the same soft type like everything. So they looked exactly the same. And at first people didn't even notice. But people started checking the box scores of guys that I was playing or other people saw it. And they saw the second cornerback would like one hundred yards rushing a game in there going. How do you not realize it's a run when this really Beeman fellows in there? Will you literally had to pay attention? Every snap to see if there was a quarterback change. So now you're focused in on squinting to see the difference between the three and the eight because everything else is exactly the same and all the other details get miss. So here's how that dovetails with their jersey, number discussion with Brennan league out in may. He rain Zakar. It's douse Qatar. Yep. Yep. Zakar. It's eighty six Dallas Qatar. Eight step one. This is my advice where dark visors grow the same beard mask, as much as you can from the neck up. Right. Step to where the same sleeves on the same arms socks towels any identifying thing that me and you would use as spotters when we watch film to differentiate them do it the same even your stance change of stance. If you have to make his exit listen, step three as you approach the line, cover the second number with your hand where the six wouldn't connect with the eight just talk, the right fist onto the chin, put the elbowing the gut. It's an a in something you don't know. Yeah. Does hoops, would it work? I don't know of in my in my humble opinion manufacturing twins that play. The same position is a market in a fishy. The eagles play with those. Listen. Julie can tell the difference it isn't close. Enough work harder social reconstructive surgery. Let's go. But honestly, like and I said it half ingest but it's half legit. And we lost my Dinsdale, we'll probably might up so probably never get it. But I really do wonder for the live scouts and char. Arturs that are in the booth for the teams are on the sideline for the posing teams. If they have a conversation like pre-game, like, during warm. All right. Got us wherein. That's Lieber touring this league because it is hard to tell the difference and they're not even trying. The teams follow me on Twitter because like you told Brandon every game after like the first player whenever I see them all tweet out. Okay. Got swearing this urges wearing the sleeve on his right arm. And there's even joining Matthews because he were sleeves. It's hordes. It's sometimes hard to tell the only thing you can really tell with him, if he's wearing the same like excess was he had that real low bearing stance. Every mean they really looked very so were eighty like they all look the same value. Have you take all numbers away? I can tell you who else on Jeffrey every single play because of Shawn's been lanky fads, where he just like puts, like barely drops his head that he's like Lena shoulders over his dangles arms. He's like, listen. Let's be honest. I'm not exploding awful line. And you know that. So let's not pretend here. Okay. So that is our followed discussion, on the hash tag jersey. Number analytics. Remember? Yet. Listen to the end. Gotta listen to the end of that show. Interact with us on Twitter, we'll be doing some more shows like that. Some different ideas rebounds enough each other for the off season but you guys definitely enjoyed that. So we appreciate you listening into a super important podcast in all seriousness. But let's get to some eagles related things that we alluded to at the top of the show, number one year article talking about the two thousand seventeen Super Bowl roster for the eagles, which going into the season. I remember Doug Peterson saying that it was just as good as the Green Bay Packers team that won a Super Bowl and everybody kind of chuckled at it, and then they go and win a Super Bowl will this two thousand nineteen roster. When you look at the differences between the different position groups, there are edges to bow side, and I think pushes to, to both years, but overall, you have to feel really encouraged about where this team is as a roster or am I drawing the wrong conclusion from your article then. No, so you do. And when it comes and, and this is super employing, because I'm like, I wrote an article that. Suggested that the twenty nineteen eagles roster Barron. The twenty seventeen eagles roster. What do you think the majority of Twitter responses were to that article something about being injured? And, and it was well, listen if Carson Wentz healthy didn't even win that were, what was Nick foles, who is going to be healthy him when you were healthy foals, which, like, oh, sweetie. Honey? Yeah. Right. So the end of the article right, if we fast vote all the way to the bottom, like, you know, when we go positionally it seems that the twenty nineteen roster is better than twenty seventeen group that won the Super Bowl holistically. I'd have say I agree. If you just look at it from thirty thousand feet on the teams that overall at worst comparible, and at the best measurably better at some key spots right now. But the twenty nineteen eagles will go as Carson Wentz goes, and that was a quote that high Roseman had about a month ago, which I really love where we go, because it was for P where he simply said, yeah, we're really proud of all the, the change we made. And we came in with a lot of cap room. We still got some really key freeze signs proud of our drafts, Sarah cetera. But the teams. Gonna go as the franchise quarterback goes and obviously, you drafting John Jackson helps Carson, but what matters is whether or not Carson's back and his leg or healthy and you have quarterback as edge for the two thousand seventeen roster because of the depth therein because going from Nick foles Nate Sud filled obviously, if Wentz gets hurt there, there's a bigger difference there. Now weeded. No, that fulls had that intimate two thousand seventeen insight is twenty twenty so that's interesting to right. Which light super weird because I wrote like this is an easy pick, but it's still weird. Because if you look at it like with how we conceptualized whence foles, plus son, feld on the practice squad in two thousand seventeen and like how we thought of it as compared to Wentz twenty nineteen Nitzan felt his backup and maybe Cody Kessler as third or you know, whatever like, you know Clayton Thorson on the practice. Whatever it is, really like, you know, you would say, like not huge difference. You ought to main Carson two years older, obviously, two years, less healthy. That's a fact. Toronto's, probably twenty seventeen then, but knowing what we know about twenty seventeen it has to be twenty seventeen which is tricky, right? Like you know, it's kind of quarterback as always when you do anything going by position is just kind of it's an exemption. You always have to look at it through different lens, because what the position is, and, you know, the other thing that we know about twenty seventeen that we don't know about twenty nineteen is that when Carson was healthy twenty seventeen he was in the MVP conversation for how while he was flying. Is he gonna do that twenty nineteen like, you know he could come back before healthy? But you know with with some of the passing offenses in this league not necessarily I still think Carson's, I still think Carson twenty nineteen MVP is a interesting conversation. I really, really do. I think it's something that we probably can look into you hate preemptive MVP conversations with passion. I get what you're saying though, because I feel like twenty eight twenty eighteen was colored a lot by the saints game. We talked about on the cubes go show. I thought overall it was a really good year for him. And we'll talk about some of the context with winning losing injuries and, and all that stuff. But I felt there were some improvements in. In other areas in his game in two thousand eighteen from two thousand seventeen and just the results weren't there. I mean it's so black and white with wins and losses and whatnot. But him saying that Carson Wentz is going to be in the MVP discussion. And, you know, I hate the whole MVP debate but that's projecting the level of play for Carson, but I'm very comfortable with projecting. When we talk about MVP discussion, what we're really talking. We think we're talking about one hundred percent on field play. Right. But what we're really talking about is like seventy five percent on field play and twenty five percent narrative structure and team success. And it was like, maybe Carson's, maybe Carson place at that VP caliber level, which makes him a shoe in for, you know comeback player of the year, you know what I mean. It's like these awards like have such a huge like media coloration and storyline to them that it's you know, it's like we're not even talking about entity caliber play one hundred percent. We talk about the awards that being said the reason I bring up potential MVP Calver season as because of the twenty nineteen weaponry on off. Fence as compared to what you had on twenty seventeen. Right. And so you go I decided to give running back the edge to twenty seventeen. I think it's easy for us to forget just how good a J is when he's healthy. But be how blunt was just like random one season for us, right? In terms of like, blunt was a good player who did good things, but he was surprisingly effective, you know. And I had that when they're both on the on the team together giant blunt both averaged over ten carries per game and over four yards per attempt combine the eagles rush for over fifteen hundred yards with those two and with Corey Clement tagged on member Darren sproles was injured for this whole season. So he hasn't really come into the calculus. He only active three games. But I think if you are expecting the combination of Jordan Howard, a mile Sanders, both to tote the ball nine plus times per game. And also both average four yards per carry, like I think that we know that's what twenty seventeen did. If I told you that Howard handers. Averaged over nine carries a game and for its precarious you'd be like that's good. That's that's better than what we might expect for them, which means that twenty seventeen is like a better group for them. But regardless, putting running back off designed to the a really interesting conversation wide receiver measurably easily better. It's undeniable right, alshon and Nelson. Galore are the two mainstays but you improve on Torrey Smith. Matt Collins, you add to Sean, nj, Jessica Whiteside tight end you from earth's follow your Brent Celik and Trey Burke into earth's, Dallas, got Richard Rogers got her basically last year produced at the combined level of Celik and Burton in two thousand seventeen which like we immortalize Burton a little bit. Like I thought Burnden more than he did. He caught five touchdowns by himself in the red zone, but overall he wasn't really like a huge weapon. The got it was, and then off line seem was your starting twenty seventeen. He's a backup now. Hopefully device I was basically a starter in two twenty seventeen after week eight he's OT four now. Right. It's very. Clearly, the starters are pretty much the same and they got a little bit older says a conversation there, but the death is so so so much better off of lines going to be better for Carson in two twenty seventeen pass catching weapons are gonna be way to be better than twenty nineteen pass catching weapons are going to be way better than twenty nineteen as well. So we should expect the infrastructure around him to lend itself to even better numbers. What about what's really important for the eagles in? That's pass rush. How do you view the difference between the buzzsaw? That was the two thousand seventeen eagles pass rush. When compared to the two thousand nineteen roster. Do you think it could be comparable? Yes. Really bringing Brin Brennan Graham bag is, is a big plus for that. Plus he wasn't that healthy last year. So. Right. I think he's going to have a really solid year. It's really interesting because, you know there are two positions. I ended up pushing on let them be tied but defense. Vent, wasn't one of them, even though the top three names are the same brand Graham Vinny curry Derek Barnett in twenty seventeen. Curry was obviously the starter. He had set hundred seventy six snaps to Derrick five hundred ninety six so not too many more stamps. That he was the starter on this year. Derek Brennan, starting in who knows if any curry will hit that six hundred snap Mark the way that, that Barnett did when he was buying Kirby the way the, the top three of the same. You trade out Chris long Stephen means for Josh sweat injury Miller. And so the question is will is the difference between sweat and Miller enough to make the change to choose to pick. But to me curry, only three sacks in, in twenty seventeen Bornet, obviously had the five, but with Barnet in a starting role not twenty eighteen are we positive that twenty nineteen Barnette, plus curry is better than twenty seventeen Nepal's curry, and I'm not because I have Burnett coming back. Injury on have curry, I was two years older and one year removed and he's going to be more of a situational player. And then I do really think Chris long, especially the twenty seventeen version was measurably better than Josh sweat will be in two thousand nineteen. I like Josh wet. Yeah. It's easy to forget Chris long, tremendous backup sort of a player. Twenty seventeen twenty twenty eighteen with injury. He ends up taking seven hundred and forty four snaps. Right. So that, that if long gone, which like long talked a lot about his role and returning to it. That's that edge force responsible for seven hundred and forty four snaps. Obviously we had an injury in front of him. But that's a lot of production to replace look at twenty eighteen a little bit. But I think it's really highlights how valuable long was over the past couple of years. So I gave the edge to twenty seventeen I can be swayed on that one, though not only production from long, but like meaningful production because I find not mistaken. I'm on going up memory here. So someone, please. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Chris, long four forced fumbles that year as well. I just remember him. He was the second best eagles edge on pass rush productivity from PF. It was Graham, and then along as the edge for you've got a lot of projection going on with the two thousand nineteen guys I was crazy. You're older brand grams, a you're older. But then you're looking at will bar net step up and be that guy. And this is something that we're gonna talk about in the future when it comes to players on the roster. The. Players on the roster that are under twenty five years old and not a rookie and we're looking for those guys step up Derrick Barnett, obviously, being one of those guys as far as the rest of the roster goes, I think we cover the offense and defense other than the secondary. So when you look at this second, Gary, given what we think is going to happen with the starting five in the secondary cause again nickel is base. Essentially, do you believe that the starting five is better? And do you believe that the depth is as good or better in two thousand nineteen my corner nine even question, right? You had round Darby for eleven of the twenty seventeen game. So you starting Jalen mills was still Douglas in his rookie season. And Patrick Robinson Roussel's markedly better player p rob has some really nice moments turned out well for Philadelphia but the eagles have avanti's attic session, Jones slash Cremona block in Nicholson. They're good. I wasn't even able to list LeBlanc because the eagles, thanks didn't have enough snaps at corner, six twenty seventeen to include it. Whereas LeBlanc is obviously considered part of the steam Dextra McDougal for. Seventeen you remember Dexter twenty seventeen I don't so they go. Remember twenty thousand to twenty nineteen I don't think he could stand up acts move without following the death is cutting about twenty nineteen. I think resold. This is measurably better player. I think Ronald Darby being able to be healthy because remember Darby twenty seventeen was at the he came back from injury. I think it is. Yeah. The ankle early on either wedding came back later in the season. Right. And I think it was week eleven against Dallas that he came back in ball or game had a really good playoff run until a Brandin cooks are to put him in the blender in the Super Bowl, but other ninety was excellent. I mean against Atlanta, he was fantastic. But yeah, good run for show. You potentially don't have jail mills. Starting twenty nineteen I think will be an improvement because you've gone better on him. And you've added sitting Jones of automatics think Horner is better safety. I pushed it because it's Malcolm two years older, plus McLeod two years older after injury. How much of a drop off is that compared to how much better is Anderson day, ho than Corey Graham? Jaylen Watkins while a lot, but also not. One hundred percents day on the roster. And so then how much better trays Sullivan? And, you know, God when he or blade con Countess over these guys, not really, you know what I mean. And so as long as jenkinson, McLeod are the starters the positions. Okay. Right. But, you know anybody who's listened to listen to this podcast more than twice knows that if I'm gonna take bridge with any position on the eagles roster for the past two calendar years, safety three in it's still up in the air because it's just the way they do it drives me nuts. If I knew one hundred percents in day was going down the roster twenty nineteen easy, but I don't know that for sure because of the complex situation with him. So I push that one. Also pushed linebacker mostly because I have no clue what the group's gonna look like yet. And that's the thing is like I'm doing this exercise before we have in active forty six before we have a locked in fifty three end. Even tackle I kind of got this question on address it, you know, a Ugo veteran Cox Tim Jernigan, Bo Allen, Fletcher, constantly, Jackson again with destiny. Vale to Assan Ridgeway, which is like just, you know, or Trevan Hester wherever you want. I got asked lake will is the difference in journey play enough after his injury, such that conversation here. And I just think the addition, Malea Jackson makes that annot like you're gonna start flushing Balik. They're both really strong interior pass rushers and Jernigan as your your Di threes, better than boylans, d three even for what Allen improved on to give you as a pass rusher. I mean even Jernigan like seventy percent I think is still going to be better player. So that's the question though is seventy percent. What, what is he? We don't we don't know what he is. I don't know how healthy he is. He's a he's a huge unknown. It's right. Put at D to four. I mean Trayvon Hester for as much as we doubted him coming into his role last year played really well, in spots, and obviously, the tip pollen Chicago, the doubled oink and everything like that. But overall like you watch watches film. I was watching some of his home yesterday. Not bad, man. That's DT four. And he's fighting it out with his Sanrio. Away for details for snaps who's another twenty four year old. They young guy then Yemen. I'm all for that depth on the interior of the defensive line. So I think that the important thing here is that the eagles are set up, not only with their starters, which we talked about coming into the draft, but also have the depth to be able to stand things, which is going to be something we're gonna talk about after the break. Yeah. Now, I say there's an interesting conversation here when you look at defensive tackle, and defensive end as a whole because the question's been posed like all right. The eagles defensive end death isn't what it was. And so, how often does Brandon Graham, kick in Ceylon, rush downs, which is the eagles started doing that in twenty seventeen? This was that was the poem that nonsense. And, and, and I think the answer twenty nineteen he, he doesn't, and they don't want him to, because Maliki Jackson is a guy who's gives you more like inside pushing out versatility in terms of he's like, you know, a sub three hundred interior Russia and so you can get him on the outside a little bit with Fletch, Jackson. Hypothetically, a healthy Jernigan. You're going to have to those three guys rushing from the inside on third along. And then you're gonna be keeping Brandon Graham and Derek net slash Vinny curry on the outside. So I think program, he'll obviously get some into your Russia's bouncing. It'll be nearly the number. He did in the past couple of years, because they've improved their penetration depth that if of tackle, but when we watch Jackson, I think I remember saying we like him better as a pass rusher when he's working vertically those more inside alignment. So if I'm remembering correctly, you see a guy whose length is helpful for him. And he's got a really great cornering ability. And so there is hypothetical like good outside usage, so on and so forth, but I agree he's at his best as penetration player and that's Philadelphia skinny, he's, they're gonna put him in a gap of Tom go cause problems, and somebody else clean up your mess so final question. Let's talk about our expectations for the eagles roster. And how they batch up with the rest of the league if you would rank this roster what will will give it a ballpark us you wanna get really bold. Number two overall. The NFL has been steak who's number one New Orleans Saints. That teams could good teams who said that begrudging at team ball. I that I was I was doing some work on them. Some post raff work, and I was linked to the Rosser and ox just like Jimmy Christmas. Seems got a lot of talent. There's one massive question Mark for the New Orleans Saints. And it's is Marcus Davenport, action thing if he is teams going to be out of this world. I was gonna ask about their pass rush. And I think that's the major question for them. I agree. We're gonna do. We're, we're gonna be doing a whole series an eye on the enemy series during the summer talking about some top contenders in the NFC in the saints or definitely one of them. So you'll give them a little, prelude of what the saints roster has to offer and what made you so doggone impressed with them. You now hate the eagles. We ask officially. Hey, the eagles. I can't. And I don't want to spoil too much. But I can go to Kansas City, I can go to the Rams, and I can even go to the patriots, which the patriots kind of an asterisk, 'cause it's Bella check. And I can circle a positional group or an aspect of play on offense or defense where I say lesson like they could be. Trump will here. If x y and z doesn't pan out with the saints receiving weapons with the had Jared cook the adults a MAC in the draft. Why love how Michael Thomas trae Kwan Smith? It have Ted Ginn Cameron Meredith potential being healthy and listen. I mean you saw breeze can do when they play the eagles, like kief Kirkwood, went for a hundred who the kief, Colonel would right? So I like right. And then running backs, you know, you have Alvin Kamara, and then I think you add a great undrafted free agent Divina zig, bows running backs a locked in, even if they need add another body, they can do that. Pretty easily offense of line was the big potential question. Adding Eric McCoy absolutely huge. They trade up to go get him and his ability guard center versatility. They have to figure out the best three on the interior. That's like a question Mark, but assuming they do off. It's of line should be set. She gives you to be dominant this team's back. Seven went from God, awful to very, very good in, like two years. Additional johnson. Johnson means now you have von bell, Marcus Williams and Chauncey as your three safeties Cianci's very natural nickel players. He'll get on the field a ton in the nickel. They got really good production out of apple last year. Obviously Marshon Lattimore on the other side, so huge improvements by those guys and you can even say by PJ Williams playing the nickel don't forget, the have Patrick Robinson on that roster was injured last year. He's gonna come back press starting rotation. Their secondary is amazing linebacker wise. I remember criticizing their linebackers when we previewed them, but those linebackers continued to play better and better and better weekend week out last year. And so, I think you're perfectly fine going in starting with D'amoto Davis Allison's alone. And you're totally cool. They're like it's not an overwhelmingly great linebacker roster. But it's totally fine for what they need. And then they got great planet shuttle rank ins they're still getting great plant of Cameron Jordan now compound, killing it for them. Ex Marcus Davenport is looking. I say if Marcus downpour is gonna turn in less than six expertise in they just don't have a dominant password and they need to blitz which. Allen is fine with blitzing, but obviously more high risk reward when you meet a team like the patriots, you can get screwed if you have to blitz so they need Davenport to become something. But like with, with Rankin camera Jordan, Malcolm Brown, if Davenport can't become something I mean, what are we talking about right likely that, that, that play next to those three and playing Malcolm Brown, specifically should help them taunt? I'd like I am. I didn't love that were coming out. So that's the huge question. Besides that reason contract year, they felt snug last year starting to be very, very motivated. The saints saints are good anytime you bring up rankings. I get happy because I think he's supremely underrated. So we're gonna be talking more about the saints in the offseason, either with Ben, as far as the general placement of the eagles roster talent wise. We're going to the island the enemies series. I'm gonna give a more definitive answer on being coward right now. 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And we are back here on the kissing Solex show, episode ninety five brought to by the five folks at us be nation and bleed green nation. Ben, let's dive right in to this topic, justed games lost by football outsiders. Do it every year. So what does takes into account? I'll just I'll just read it from their site, quote for those unfamiliar with just a games loss. We do not simply add up the numbers of games missed, we are able to quantify how much teams were affected by injuries based on two principles one injuries to starters into replacements and important situational reserves to injure players who do take the field are usually playing with reduced ability, which is why AG L is based strictly on whether the players active for the game or not. But instead based on the players game status that week out doubtful questionable or probable slash blank. So they made some changes to this recently. But it's all pretty much been the same over the years now worthy. Eagles ranked. And this is really no surprise. Let's qualify. Why are just a games laws is important? I'm not breaking news. When I say that injuries can derail any season and are important for a team to continue winning especially when they get into the playoffs. But I looked past with the last six years. This is all in the article bleeding greenish dot com. Seventy two teams of made the playoffs in the past six years. Their average ranking in just against losses thirteen. So one is really good. One means a really healthy. Thirty two means you are terrible. Everyone is hurt. Right. So of all those playoff teams double the amount came from top ten ranked teams in AG L forty percent at the bottom ten you had a twenty one percent chance to get into the playoffs out of the last twelve conference champions, nine of those teams that checked it on the top half in the league in a L where the conference champions, five of the last six Super Bowl, champions came from the top half, healthiest teams, the lone exception, of course, being the New England Patriots last year because anytime you run any sort of metric, the patriots are always some sort of outlier and really have been an AG L throughout throughout the. History. I mean, they haven't been shy healthy team, but they got twelve and couldn't be less. Couldn't be more surprise what us right? So what I did was I looked at the eagles the eagles their worst ranking in longtime. They've been pretty historically healthy in recent history. They ranked thirty first in just two games loss in two thousand eighteen now we think of the two thousand seventeen Super Bowl is a pretty banged up season. And it was they lost some key contributors at key spots, but they ranked thirteenth that year. So while they did take some big hits Darren sproles, Jordan Hicks Carson Wentz. Jason Peters, the two thousand eighteen season. It was verdone and goes badly line, the description of AG L, which is taking further into account, the loss of, of not like bench guys, but like role players and backups. Because like remember Josh Hawkins was covering Amari Cooper, like just remember that. And that's how you'll know twenty team was beleaguered by injury. Yeah, exactly. And you've got guys like Hicks missing games. Not missing. Games. The bar net missing games. Like it was every McLeod is it was every level of the offense. It was the whole team that was elected by injuries. So they rank thirty I now know what does that mean when I look through the adjusted games loss history I could not find a more banged up team from their AG L rating, 'cause they spit out a number two their, their age EL rating was one hundred eighteen point five the closest team to that in recent history was the two thousand fifteen Washington Redskins one hundred nineteen point one airing thirty first that year as well. They were one in done in the playoffs. The eagles won their playoff game the eagles from what I can tell and I went back to two thousand ten hour wind. I spot check some other years in and it wasn't even close to me. It looks like in the history of just games loss for football outsiders. The deck eagles were the most bang-up team in at least the last decade to win a playoff game, which is while and which even crazier. You can add this along with it. Frank Reich Indianapolis Colts. They ring thirtieth last year in just two games. Lost just two points lower than the eagles. They also when a playoff game. So you have the Doug Peterson coaching street. Right. Just out here killing it. How he rose me making good choices left and right? But this thirty second last year who's worst ultimate worst was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers shot. All team was so beat up and also bat and they didn't have the talent on the roster to be able to withstand those injuries and soldier ahead like the eagles. Right. Goes to our what we talk the right. That's the interesting question I want, I want to hear what your thought is. And I wanna see if we're gonna are you so you brought up the colts and the and the the eagles. The two teams that won a playoff game spy having a really bad score in this metric obviously Frank writing Doug Peterson those the, the link there. But also, you have gentleman's in Chris Ballard in Howie Roseman, reviewed is some of the better managers in the league. If you had to gun to your head to whom do you give at least a lion share the credit? The majority of the credit the. The personnel staff for the ability to replace those guys or the coaching staff. The ability to just to the losses. See it's interesting because the colts I don't think we're in overly talented team. I don't think like they they're starting roster. Did not look like the eagles starting roster to me. So I think the colts were the least where the lesser talented teed coming into the season. So I give a lot of credit, the Frank Reich there. So men, you really put me in a tough spot with this. I mean I'm gonna answer as well. So we're both on top spot. I think it starts with Howie Roseman for the eagles. And obviously look, we're talking about two big time extreme situations that require greatness on both sides. But if I were to have to give more credit, I would give how he rose more more credit on the roster construction side. And then I would give Frank Reich more credit for what he did with a much less talented roster in Indianapolis, as far as the coaching job done not taking anything away from Doug Peterson. What, what would you say? Yeah. So to me. Eight. Comes back to the general manager in the programming side of things. And that's I shouldn't even say, bro scouting because per Filadelfia, they got a lot of contributions from UDF as and stuff like that. But aid comes back down to be able to identify players in the market who will be at their most successful in your system, and you can plug in with at least scheduled in scripted changes. If not the least amount of changes to what you're gonna do possible. And so that way they can step in at least be situational players in like, you know, we beleaguer Corey Graham on this podcast. We've had a great time doing. It made a lot of money for the past few years, just being mean, to a man who we've never met in Corey Graham, grams knowledge of Schwartz system, allows them to not change as much when he's on the field, while we easily remember the plays like for fifteen against Tennessee was appointed note, like Graham out there playing the flattened cover to just not what he does he didn't wrong. That was stupid, a veteran never should not excusing it. But Graham's ability to just play in, in Schwartz's system. Towards terminology and understanding his role is objectively valuable because you don't have to change as much. So the defense can stay coherent as the breakdowns that don't happen with some other players you saw this last year that make him more valuable than them. Right. And so I think that, that coherency and I think that's the word that I really want to hone in on is the most important part about replacing injured players. I will say and this is really interesting conversation for the eagles specifically, kinda putting the colts off to the side. How much does how rosement create that problem by always attacking the market on off injured players like he goes and gets JJ cheap. Why nobody else want J giants injured a lot. And yes, what a dry gets injured for all of the twenty eight thousand season and the eagles are strong and adjusted games loss. But Rosen went out and got the guy on the cheap knowing he is interested in times and prepared for Venturi losing him now. No. I'm gonna take issue with that j j I don't think the issue was he was injured much. Let's check how many games he played throughout his career. But I don't remember the issue that he had bad knees. Right. Okay. So there was the long term concern. So I, I agree with it in that sense. I'm not like the eagles could have moved on from Jordan heck's because he was there in roster. But like Hicks falling into third round in the two thousand fifteen NFL draft was due in large part to the fact that he had some struggles staying healthy. Ronald Darby missed one game in his rookie season. Two games in his final season eagles trained for him. Now he's had to season ending injuries are not season ending, but to -nificant chunks Darby's never played a sixteen game season. And the N eagles brought them back on one year deal. You know what I mean? So the eagles are very fine getting injury prone players on the cheap until I've eagles slightly create this problem for themselves, which is totally fine. Did you mention on Jeffrey who had just a long history? Right. Another great one, which Alison are not to be relatively healthy. I've seen as the first three games this year gets put into the formula, but also played a whole season on a torn rotator. Right. So it's like it didn't get hurt when he was here through it brings us back to. An interesting conversation, twenty seventeen plays whole seasonal torn rotator. Cuff is very good in the playoffs after the Super Bowl, the eagles move on from their medical staff. You said regularly. They were pretty good in this metric, and all of a sudden they offer the medical staff of the twenty seven teas, and what happened to twenty eighteen thirty. First with the new medical staff, which receives heavy heavy fire in large part due to the Carson Wentz back a situation I in two thousand thirteen they were fifth in two thousand fourteen six in two thousand fifteen fourth in two thousand sixteen thirteenth in two thousand seventeen than all the way to thirty first after they make the change in the medical staff. Now is it just bad injury luck? Like what is that? Like injury is on questionably. Random enough occurrence that one year is not enough time to be like it's because the medical staff changed. But that fascinating to me, that's very, very. What are we going on here deem? If things start to go that way. Again. Then you're going what the heck are we doing because I mean, it only lasts for so long. You know, the colts had bad luck for a couple years, the chargers were famously awful in that area for a few years awful injury luck. The Redskins have to be terrible. Right. Because the Redskins plan FedEx fields eight games year. Right. Yeah. I mean that feels awful. So we get that. But we don't have that kind of field. So what is it? Yeah, it rats fast. And now and, and of course, we have to be careful with what exactly the signal is here, because, in this is the eagles, good numbers, a single that good medical staff who kept players healthy or as was the complaint about that medical staff, with misdiagnosis is it a signal of staff that told players their injuries were less than they were so and then, you know, kept them on the field, maybe they should have taken time off, because that's part of G L is part of the reporting system that goes along with it and reporting system. And what players were hearing from the medical staff was fired. It on by some of the former players. Emmanuel Acho is one of them. Earl wolf was another Jordan Mathews said it. Yes. And so, that's, that's a whole different can of worms. But now it is very interesting. And right. When we talk about the strength Philadelphia's roster and I call them the number two raw string league, what Philadelphia has that's really, really tremendously exciting. Great great, great depth. And you look at corner, you look at defensive line, you look at offense line. You look at wide receiver the four positions that stick out to me, in terms of like this team can bear injuries at those positions and put in guys who started for them in the last couple years, and gave them good reps, in those last couple of years and like as starts on me mean, like and that's, that's a very exciting proposition. Because when you play nineteen games, you know, like the nineteen games on a Super Bowl run potentially twenty games on the Super Bowl run. You're going to be beat up by the time you get there, you're gonna have starters who downs you need, you need to be deep. You need to be calm. None of that. The one area where the depth is not tested. That's a big question Mark quarterback. Let's talk about how coaching for a second can totally nullify great results in just two games loss. Because I love this. I love this one in the last eight years, the only team so rank the healthiest in the NFL to miss the playoffs. The two thousand sixteen Los Angeles Rams with Jeff Fisher at the helm. That's what bad coaching can do for you. Gentlest is Ben, I free when I saw that I was like, oh, there's no way I'm not putting this an article. I don't even care if it's relevant, you have to go back to two thousand ten with Todd Haley as the Kansas City Chiefs coach for a team that ranked first at miss, the playoffs like that should be a lock. If you have any idea what you're doing as head coach in my opinion. Now, listen, especially if like come on it is worth saying, I mean they were at a tremendous disadvantage in twenty sixteen because they had just moved on from Nick foles as their starting quarterback. Mak moved to Jared Goff. And so it's not surprising that they were so such a huge dropoff in quarterback play lead such a of season on does not mean the eagles were healthy that you're to miss the playoffs. They were fourth in league installments, the playoffs new team all that stuff. But like rookie quarterback rookie season for rookie quarterback's also rookie season for Doug Peterson to Jeff Fisher rate, no spring chicken, man. He's, he's been around it. You should be able to overcome those things Fisher should've able to do a lot of things given how long is in the leash. But and this, this again, introduces us into a larger conversation, you know, Sean our favorite punt. Analytics guy on Twitter, Sean Seebeck. Yes. Readings on them. He put up he put together. I was reading yesterday. Senate over to me about how to find competitive advantages outside of coaching because there's one ballot check in thirty two head coaching gigs. So if you try to find Bella check, you're just not going to work. If you're gonna find Bella check, you're going to be lucky. And so you shouldn't base this. Successive your team on lock. You know what I mean? So it's, how do you find coaching advantages outside of, of just like hiring the right head coach? So there's a lot of conversation about what to do for your, your, your scouting staff, you're pro scouting staff in and preparing for weekly opponents in. It's really interesting. But one of the overarching themes that we can extrapolate and put into here is there's a cap on, on what money can spend on players. There's not a capital. You can spend on coach's so fill out an incredible coaching staff with a ton of bodies in there. If you're an ambitious owner with a lot of money wants to win 'cause nobody's gonna stop you and you're gonna have better coaching staff, just by virtue of the number of bodies. There's no cap what money you can spend on your health and nutrition and injury doctors. And if in the past eight years, the best team has gone to the playoffs seven out of eight times will then be the healthiest team inventor, heavily in that. And you've clearly increased just just one data point, obviously, we can make much more comprehensive aggression. But just one data point, you can clearly increase elected of making the playoffs if you really, really invest. So it's important to look. Outside of the cap limited structure of spending, I e players, and find the other competitive advantages such as your doctors nutritionist in your trainers. And what's interesting too, as we know in, we've heard from, from people that the eagles pretty much have a blank check when it comes to analytics, and part of those analytics are player tracking and that player tracking goes into monitoring players and making sure that you're avoiding these injuries, now bats the case definitely didn't work last year, but is the process. Good. Or was it bad luck? And that's something that were eventually going to have to find throughout this process. And hopefully it gets better for the eagles because if they're a relatively healthy team, especially in the top half of the league would the way that we've talked about this roster being setup. We one hundred percent expect a serious run at this thing. So Ben, I think that's going to do it for today's kissing so elect show what you say. Goodbye to the gentlest news. Thank you, as always for listening to the kissing so show here on BGN radio. I don't know that y'all I love these sort of pods because. I just like talking about general football theory. It's a lot of fun. And so, I hope that you enjoyed it as well. Of course, the articles that we mentioned you can find AB leading green nation ends up there and you can get re through for those and you can always bicker with us on Twitter at Benjamin, so lack. That's Esa K an amicus NFL. That's K. 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At the Podium #8: Double Doug & Wentz On the Win in London

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At the Podium #8: Double Doug & Wentz On the Win in London

"Hey, guys. This is John Stolnis from the good fight and the Phillies podcast hitting season. Man. The two thousand eighteen season was well, it was interesting and the upcoming off season looks to be even more interesting. So if you wanna stay up to date on all things Phillies this off season subscribed to the good fight podcast feed and get my podcast hitting season as well as continued success hosted by Justin clue and Liz Rozier and the dirty inning, which looks at the worst innings in Phillies history. Seriously, it's Larry us and you'll love it all on the good fight podcast feed. Welcome into at the podium. This is episode eight brought to you by SP nation and bleeding green nation. I am your host Michael kissed. Follow me on Twitter at Michael kissed. And f l look we got three pressures for you today. Doug Peterson and Carson Wentz right after the game in London right after they get off the plane and get back to work and then the Monday presser with Doug Peterson going into further detail about this twenty four to eighteen win over the Jacksonville Jaguars at Wembley stadium to put the eagles at four and four and really keep the hopes of this season alive, or at least healthy at the moment. As we go into this by week and start to prepare for the Dallas Cowboys in week ten of the NFL season. So let's kick it over to that. And before we do that. I'll remind you go back and listen to BGN radio episode seventeen me and Brandon Lee out in may he forever reign. Go over all the details in our recap. Of the win. And then of course, the kitchen Solex show will be back soon after we review the all twenty two film of this win. But let's kick it over to us pressures right now. I just think. It was communication halftime that we had to finish the game play for another. Another thirty minutes of full full sixty in anything is really embraced that. And did a nice job finishing and making plays when they had to. Defense did a nice job just kinda holding onto three there late and then and then offense going down and being able to to win the game was with a couple of runs. So just just a great way to finish. Say that again. Yeah. I don't know if it's on the line. I just think every game is every games tough. Every game. Is you know, a great opportunity to take a step forward? You know, things haven't really gone our way the first half of the season. But it was great to get this victory today and and go into the break with with positive thoughts. Obviously and get ready for the next one. But I didn't think it was necessarily a must win situation. I haven't met with the medical team yet. So I can't I can't speculate on that until I do know some tomorrow. Great play on a ball is what we talk about. During the week. We need we need defensive turnovers, and they were going to do that one. Then obviously the fourth down late in the game. But great job coming up rallying, you know, putting us putting his hat on a ball. Ball comes out Malcolm picks it up and then offense can can capitalize on that. And that's one of the things I think this kind of been missing the first first half of the season is it's quite frankly, you know, turn overs and then short fields for the offense. And I told the team, you know, even after the game, you know, that's that's a positive as you know, we can do that. And we need we need more of that, you know, second half. Yeah. We just felt comfortable. Josh. I mean, he the other two guys play a lot of special teams and just keeping everybody fresh in rotated. I thought Wendell did a nice job as well. Corey came in there. And and and he runs extremely hard. But, but you know, Josh had the hot hand today and just kind of kept him going. Keep you on. Now, it's just kind of where the ball went Jordan made some great plays on a ball some third down catches. You know, he's really strong football right now he's been able to elevate in. And he he's he's really kind of fitting in you know, what we're what we're asking him to do. He had a really a game today. Yeah. You eliminate those two turnovers how they played extremely well. Led the team played played. Well, played tough made some tough scrambles. I I I mean, I mean hung in there, you know. And and just made a couple of grade throws on those touchdowns two tight ends. And then obviously the screen Wendell. But yeah, thought he played played played the aggressive. He played hard play tough. And in really really kept us in the game. He's really he's really settled in to that role. Seems like he's just gotten gotten better each week. You know, e- even having like, Malcolm, Corey Graham, and even Rodney, you'll McLeod out there helping him during the week and talk into and of course, you know, coach online, and Tim those guys preparing him. He's done a nice job. He's really. Kind of understood his role understands his role, I guess and and just fits within the system and has been been improving every week. Just hold them. You know, congratulations on on a hard-fought win. Nothing's ever. Nothing's ever given to you. You know, you have to go earn everything you take take games. I mean, they just against the great opponent. And so I just my hat off to our players and coaches for you know, being able to come over here, and and with the travel and being able to to handle that and be disciplined with that was really really a positive for the team and just sort of embraced the moment being around that the guys just told him. It was just a great great experience overall and a great way to to finish the first half of the season. A great crowd. Great crowd eighty-five. Plus, I think it was. A lot of eagles fans. And you know, we we we expect that each week, quite honestly, and you know, our our fans travel. Well, the the the UK fans were were in full force. And it was a felony a home game for. Yeah. One more. What you saw what happened right away took shot, you know, and went after him, and he so he so long at great speed in. And I thought he thought he played well, we'll evaluate the film on the plane going home and get a chance to watch it. But I thought thought Brazil really stepped in. And and we'll see, you know, Jalen 's injury down down next couple of days, but filled it nicely. Okay. Thanks. I mean, we moved the ball. Well, that's the thing that was a positive sign. Obviously both drive ended with turnovers on my part things. We gotta clean up. The interception. I mean Ramsey mid hike replay kinda came out of nowhere on us. That's that's a good player making play. I gotta make a better read, and then the fumbles unfortunate. But again, the positive sign was that we knew we were moving the ball. We knew we were capable capable of it right away. So we just built out that. That is great. I mean, no line got got out in front and smaller took care of the rest. I mean, everyone did their job. And you gotta love those the screen passes. I go big like that. Yeah. Yeah. Put it. Third downs. Huge. I mean anytime I mean, we always talk about situation football being third down and red zone football. And today, obviously started down was big saying on the field. That's you know, some we pride ourselves on. We were great at it last year. So it's big for astound the field only did today. Yeah. That's that's what we like around here. You know, we're pretty confident in the guys we have whoever it is catching the football out of the backfield on running backs tight ends, you know, everybody. And it's usually a good thing when we get lots of guys involved shoot. Even I had to catch today. So we're spread the ball. Great play call, you know, huge play call and that situation by coach had time just to set up in let it rip and he made a great play after the catch, you know. So that was just gotta to give a lot of credit the play call. Yeah. I mean, this is what you're taught on screens. Honestly, I wouldn't over analyze over. Thank it. I mean, it really was lying taking care of it. And smaller dune the rest. Yeah. I mean, I'm always unhappy. You know, I'm ticked off. I get frustrated but system tally that you've developed from this game plan. It's a long, you know, that's just versus going to strike in a season versus going to strike. It was in a game. Sometimes just make plays. And you gotta bounce back from in that really shows the type of player in the type of character that you have. Yeah. In the nice thing for me is it is pretty easy because those guys come in ready to go guys have to shuffle around move around. And we're asking a lot for them running backs. You know, we're asking a lot of them out of the backfield the ball a little bit of everything. So you might think it's a big deal. But I gotta give credits at all line. And those guys just coming in being ready to go. And this is that we have good depth there. I mean, we find we finished the end of the day. We finished still in Finnish. They want it offensively. We had that chance to kind of seal the deal, and I went three, and which was unfortunate. But but defense stepped up, you know. And so I think we just at the end of the day we finished well this week. And we obviously has. Yeah. I feel extremely confident guys that we have you know, it's like you said it's been kind of up and down for us offense. Some weeks we start fast and slow or vice versa. And it was just good for us to kind of go into this by week with little momentum against a really good defense. You know, really good overall team really good defense in the Jags. And to put a good performance. Like that was big. I wouldn't say I'm more myself. But that's when instincts take over the day. Like, you said, I when I scramble I wanna throw I, but the way they were covering everything. Playing a lot of soft covers playing deep in the plays that we had on. I was able to to try and extend some and pick up I down a couple of times. Yeah. I mean again hats off to coach calling and calling some really well designed place. I think we had a couple more that we just missed. And you know, he called them calm at the right time and guys making place and at the end of the day anytime, you got a play down the field, though, lines out of protect now they got to pick it up, and they did a great job. Give me time to make those spice. Yes. Huge huge difference being five hundred again, still not where he wanted to be where we had hoped to be but going into the by what he knowing that the real meat of our schedule. Then is ahead of us when we come back from this by huge momentum, huge win for us heading into this. The thing. I love about Jay Matt as you can put them as e put actually. He's going to get the job done both have blocking and all the stuff we asked receivers new blocking wise, but he make place, you know, you can beat mad coverage. I mean, we saw a couple years ago here, you know for a while. And it was big for him to step up the way he did today as cool that to have him be the leading receiver again, it's been a while. Yeah. I think we go in every week with a handful of movements and ways to move the pocket. And you know, we we had a lot of respect for this front. You know, and and this secondary as well. So we knew if we could just move the pocket a little bit do some things like that give me on the perimeter where I feel really comfortable guys. Really react. Well, when things break down that was big big for us today. I mean, a huge win a huge win. Everyone's obviously excited heading into the by week. You know to get a week off get our minds to get our bodies. Right. That's huge. And we've got a long flight ahead of us. We're in London. There's a lot of things going on. So think everyone's pretty excited that we're going back with a win and not a loss. I mean, I think everyone needs a week off. You know, I think this is the National Football League. You're getting guys are getting hit and beaten up all year long. And fortunately, ours really falls right in the middle of our season, which is nice. But, but we it's huge both for people's minds and their bodies to just really heal up get away from the game for just a couple of days, and everything and get your mind. Right. So that we can come back and make this run. Really cool. It was really cool coming in really no idea what to expect when everyone is going to be cheering who you know, what the fans we're going to be cheering for and everything. But it is an awesome experience. Osman virement. It was definitely fun over. Yeah. I mean, it's something I gotta clean up at some. We got a I got a look look in the mirror and say, how can I protect wall little bit better. Sometimes it's just getting the ball out earlier. You know, finding my guys faster and something I'm I'm definitely looking at thanks. Jumped over. Spots next, man. Good afternoon. Hustling. Actually. As of this press conference right now because the lateness of getting back we've pushed our treatments back. So I don't have any updates at this point. With all the guys get Nick game. Or you coming up is there anybody. Of the injured. Reserve guys you have a lot of their desert anybody close era estimated to being active. Yeah, we got a couple of guys that you know, that that we're going to evaluate here in the next couple of weeks. But you know, I mean, Richard Rogers is one of those guys he got hurt in preseason into easy's getting close, you know, MAC Holland's is air. Mike Wallace's is going to be you know, a little bit later because of the lateness of his his injury. And of course, you know, being on the activists sproles pros is another one that we're going to continue to monitor each each day each week. And you know, these guys are doing a heck of a job with rehab, obviously, they wanna get back out on the field. And we got some time this week to to get them ready in she were at next week that running backs field at the group this year compared to last year, you know, Garrett last year really gave you a strong short yardage kind of force kinda guy. Do you think you have that? Or are you hoping Josh? She can be that guy where you think those are. I think we have that guy. If you watch if you watch and go back and watch the game. I call it. A few more third into third and three runs in the game that we converted. And of course, Josh was in the game at the time when Dell had some tough run here the tough run via the game to ice the game, basically. So we're very comfortable Corey is another one that can can get those yards in really a lot of that starts up front. Offensive line block extremely well against tremendous front against Jacksonville in and I feel real comfortable with you know, the guys we have back there. You mentioned that you hope distributed kind of galvanizing for the team are there signs that it was that. Yeah. I wanna see the way the way we played four quarters. You saw the enthusiasm. You saw the excitement with the players team. You know afterwards. Just I mean we were together for about two NAFTA aids. Really? And it's really good to to be able to do that. Now. This is why is great trip. Great timing for the trip, obviously. And the guys handled their business extreme about treated like a business trip. Like, we always do we want on the road. You know, you know, in an environment that is can be can universal both ways. But felt like we had a we had a really good contingency of eagle fans there that really helped us to white one long. Now, it was great. It was it was it was a lot of fun guys were guys were relaxed in just you know, sort of talking about plans this week in just just having the time off is really really crucial and a great trip. Runningback back to them for a little bit was just getting the extra touches pathetic game plan thing sort of feel thing does he got going early on. It's some of his game plan in you know, when I look at the run game after coached out puts puts the plan together, deuce. I we'll sit down more deuce really any starts putting who he wants in on certain Ron's in Josh had a few more this week. And quite frankly, the second half of the game we just utilize one one run scheme just a couple of different formations in. Josh has happened to be the hot hand at the time. And did some nice things. But you know, it's it's something that we continue to look at each week in and try to get all the guys involved. If we can't. That right down the second half year. Schedule is tied up in the first half. What areas are area keep think you guys improve in the most going into the second. Well, I think that you know, we have to continue to get better on third down. Even though we were pretty good in the game. The other day red zone efficiencies got improve second half the season. We score more points. That's those are things that that that. I I take note of obviously in his play caller. I get to control that some. But. You know? And then, you know, defensively I think are red zone defenses is playing extremely well. We're holding teams two to three not seven which is which is really good answer. Just we just got to keep improving. We gotta get better. Hopefully, we get up we get some guys back healthy, you know, the second half of the season. And you know, we know our division. We have five division opponents in the next eight weeks in. That's that's that's a challenge. But everything's right in front of us. But the trade deadline towards you into sedate. Well, let me say this that I'm very confident comfortable with guys we have very confident those guys in a group, we're constantly looking. If we can add value if we can add talent anywhere on the team. You know, we're gonna we're gonna look at that. How he's gonna look at that. And and so we'll see we got a little time here these next couple of days. But you know, if it values the eagles and helps us win games. You know, we'll see how. How the played into. You know? I mean, you gotta you gotta look at it a little bit, you know, from an injury standpoint. Because we we have missed you know, some guys first part of the season. I don't think it's the sole purpose for you make a move. I think it has to be one has to be the right person has good character fit has to fit what we do offense. And in if it if it values us and helps us win games than than, you know. We'll stay aggressive that way in its that's always been our our our mindset. This versatile pieces are. Oh pieces on the offense. YV had play Dryden left. Tackle is academy. Kickout with headlights center at left guard. How important is adapt as guys that can move. I mean, you you hit it. And I mean, that's that's so important. Gosh lane goes down early in the game. You know, basically I series of the game he's down. So some big vs in there than than JP comes out itches. It's a credit to one the player, then it's a credit to coach doubt Lynn in Eugene in the guys for getting the the the next guy ready to go each week image just been. It's been it's been sort of impressive to watch that whole thing take shape 'cause now is out there playing right tackle who took. No right tackle reps during the week. He's playing right tackle than you have to come back and play left tackle left guard. Wiz is in the you know, so big vs in the game in finishes at right tackle. So. These guys really? It's important to have flexibility there in versatility there. We know JP's left tackle, we know Kelsey center. Right. We know lanes right tackle. But to have your your your next guy, you know, Brandon broaches you're right guard. But to have those swing guises so bible, and and you paid off force in the game. Back your flake falling at all when you're like, gosh, I got all the early win win. The new guy comes in. You wanna make sure he settles into the game. So you might call a runner to a little bit more. Maybe a quick pass or something like that just to kind of get them settled in the speed of the game get caught up, but you know, after that man, it's it's still back on back on task at hand in in in you know, maintain the same same game plan. Club. It had such a price it out of nowhere last year at I guess through some outset expectation that he would take more leaves four injuries that you're running back, wouldn't you made of his seconds. So he's been he's been great. He's been he's been doing everything we've asked him to do. Of course, he was he was nursing injury. Neil I part of the season training camp. And all that he's bounced back from that. You know, he he's done a great job. Plus, he's playing special teams. So he's valuable part of what we do in huge part of our success year ago in obviously this year. That this year too. Yeah. I mean, you know, obviously the ball security thing. That's you can see with his mobility and being able to move the pocket and stuff like that. I mean. Yeah, we keep talking about that. And and one thing that you know yesterday we had the phone bowl. And then of course, he had to pick. But listen, we just we just keep shooting, man. You know, we keep shooting hard to take away the aggressiveness because you don't want to. But but he knows he's got to protect the football. When we talk about it. And you know, just just keep keep on it. Comey. Perfect tie outward is not just everybody to heal up. But out of a motion Lee, mentally way, the first Abbas going to kinda get away from things for about a week important coaches and players, quite frankly, you know, it's it's you know, this time the season everybody a great time. You know, I've seen have a break in can kind of get away in sort of relax. Enjoy family friends. And you know, I'm gonna get chance to watch our son play college football this weekend. So it's exciting for us. But get away get rested. He'll guys in here getting treatment. You know, some guys are traveling. Some guys aren't you know in in. But it's it's a good time to be my family. We get close trade deadline like. When we close the trade deadline. What's your on role in that whole process is how he's here you guys were thinking about and you look at Tate or does it not get it up until talks are heavy? It's hard, you know, because we're game planning stuff leading up to all this. You know for us to spend a lot of time evaluating players all that. But yeah, how how how been direct communication and in talking about certain certain things in scenarios of what this that and the other. But if he has a handful of guys, you know, whenever you can find time, you look out and see if see if that person fits, you know, so that communications always there, and and it's been it's been a good process. Ibrahim needs with him. There's a position you could. You know, I think one of the things that he, and I I think we're both on the same page with all that, you know. And we look at our we look at our roster in again if it's a. If it's if it's an area that can help us help us win games in these next eight weeks, hopefully beyond you know, we're gonna we're gonna maintain that aggressiveness in in just two j you know, you're and helped us win a championship. So, you know, that's it's all part of this process. Pretty the fumble. That wasn't by Josh. How do you like them? Did you talk to the bad site? Can't do that in a situation to chalk it up to well when it comes down to a little bit experience. You know, heat. Gosh, you know, you hate to take again aggressiveness away from anybody on the football field in situations. Like that just you know, we talked to him after that to say you don't have to fight sometimes for the extra yardage is kinda just go down. Now, the also to be mindful of in a pile. That's when defenders begin to sort of rip at the ball. And those are all things that he's hill. Learn from you know, and I was fortunate to play was overturned in our favor changes from your standpoint this week is still sort of like self scout. And then start preparing we can do both. I think we've we've you know as a staff offense defense special teams, really go back in can confirm. Focus on some areas. You know in the first eight games that that we either struggled in or had success in learn from it in come up with a plan as we move forward. I think it's a great couple of days with no real. You know game obviously this weekend, but to build a look look at a head to toe next opponent in the Cowboys in kind of get a feel for them in input some thoughts on paper. So when the players come back that we can you know, we can execute in start start that process to. Running backs Wendell, you know, didn't have his greater role last season. You went out and broaden some guys J A Garrett. Where is he now is he kind of grown into a more trustworthy player? We have a ton of confidence window. I I've always. You know, you you kinda saw what he did in training camp. This year felt like he was one of those players. I've been there as a player to where you're kind your back against the wall. Just come out swinging in in see what happens and he was one of those players this year had great training camp. Any steady player force getting better and better in. You know, we got a lot of confidence in him in ask him to do a lot of stuff. Whether it's in protection of the run game made made a, you know, really the screen was was a great great play by him. But the offensive line helped there, then of course, the run is the game. So this guy's been viable part of what we're doing. Withhold process way, you guys at I r vais. Well, the one thing with that and got time with these guys come back. You know what I mean? So you don't have to make a decision right away. If you chance to kind of see where the guys are at in practice and all that and before you make any kinda you kinda decision. So you know, we got a little time yellow time, they're endo-. It's kind of a ram. Hello. I'm Spencer hall from Espy nation. And I wanna tell you about my new show. It seemed smart. It seems mart as a show about people doing things that for some reason or another same smart at the time. 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Family Minecrafting | Adobe's Tacy Trowbridge

"If you're looking to connect with others and find some helpful ideas and resources for your time at home participate. Has You covered each week? A learning at home menu is created packed with fun themes live events and lots of free resources to explore the learning at home community and connect with more than six hundred educators parents and other caregivers visit participate dot com slash on education. I believe in freedom in America stands for freedom and yeehaw. Let's go welcome to on education part of the on podcast media network. My name is Mike Washburn am Glenn Irvine Friends. We have awesome pod for you today. We will discuss how we can. Best celebrate graduation safely debate whether we should be calling. Educators rockstars shout out our basic Bob's and wives and our guest. This week is adobe as head of global education programs. Kc trowbridge mothers say yes today it was but we can actually see our moms. I don't know if you can if you guys are able to go ahead and you can't. You had tons of that before I called. I called mine now what I did too. So yeah by. Parents actually didn't get to go out anywhere and it's really sad. I think that the generation that is older than us they really have a hard time making true connections like you know we get onto on Friday evenings a bunch of different groups for example having a happy hour. There's coffee you in the mornings Jerry seeing zoom or whatever might be but. I don't think that'll you know. Basically say that all people that are older than me but specifically my parents who are in their seventies they have cell phones and whatever might be but it's not like when they call me they don't facetime me for example. It's just a good way of being able to describe the difference. They're not face timing me. They're just actually literally calling me like you would traditionally you're talking on the phone The text messages between you know my parents and I are super short. And they're not really long drawn out types of things I think it's just because they're not comfortable with that type of medium media to be able to exchange ideas it and now they're stuck at home and just feel bad for them. I feel bad for my mom as far as being able to just get out there and connected people because that's what she does so hopefully she's doing great. I those I talked to her but yeah kind of I I do feel bad. I could definitely tell us. She was sad as far as you know not mother's Day but it's like I'm stuck at home and a lot of the generations older than us and even our generation. I mean to be on a sexually probably my our kids. Generation is the first generation that can think of that will consider like online interactions to be equally as meaningful kind of interactions as face to face potentially in some cases and They just don't. It's invalidated it doesn't. I just talked to you on the Internet. Now I don't and and it's like not as meaningful to them and and in some cases it's dining meaningful ties either but it's still. They doesn't count to my mom that I called her. It's like when when I you know but we can't. We can't do anything about it. This is kind of just the way it is right now. one of the You know so we. We celebrate it. We did what we I made a tried to make a good meal and Yeah I got her. Got Her a gift and You know let her letter relax and have a day and You know tried to take as much of the pressure off is a possibly could and it was good. It was I thought I had. We had a good day. I think so you know. We watched a movie together. Which is fun. We actually ahead. I get hate for sure for this but we had never. We hadn't watched the last star wars yet So the last skywalker. It was very I enjoyed it. I thought I think all the new the new ones are very good. I enjoyed them. There's some weird stuff by have you seen it. I have not okay. So so there's I know but it was good. I enjoyed it a lot One of the other things that we're doing. I don't know if you do this very much. Like with everybody. But when of the things that we've been doing is Cheryl Cheryl's Cheryl's been learning minecraft. She's been that's awesome doing a PD staff. She was actually in them. So Steve Isaacs and Kathy Chow. Isaacs are doing Pd with the Khanate through a Canadian company called a fair chance learning that that are very good And she's in those online sessions so she's doing PD with Steve Isaacs. Who Thought Right? That's awesome deal to do PD. Sure and Steve's just tickled that you know my wife is in the P. IS PD sessions. It's pretty funny so she's been learning how to play. My one of the things that that has spawned is family. Mine crafting so now. It's me on my computer. In my office Isaac in his room on his computer. Jacob has Isaacs old computer in the kitchen. 'cause that's that's where the little boys computer goes. He doesn't use it very often by the complained minecraft for sure in. Sheryl on the laptop in the kitchen as well and all four of us in a Know hosted like so. I started world in my craft education edition and host it and then all four of us joined in and we were playing. We're we're literally playing minecraft survival world together and Jacobs obnoxious as a four-year-old probably would be. It's been a lot of fun that's fantastic. That's a that's definitely a new development there get the whole entire family. Doing the did mine crafting guys for us. My wife is not too much of a Gamer. So yeah it's been fun. Yeah that's fantastic fun. I I would. I wouldn't be surprised audience if you saw a youtube channel. Pop Up of us for playing minecraft together because Might be moderately entertaining and fun a fun creative outlet you know so we'll see we'll see what happens but it's been fun. We've been doing a lot of stuff. We've been busy So the chat on education. You weren't on it last week. He took a little. Everyone deserves a Friday night off every once in a while. They're ready so but we had a really good Chat on education live. It's on twitch on at eight o'clock every Friday night. So if you're you know you're not doing anything you're not going anywhere. feel free to join. Us Twitch DOT TV slash inside participate And there's usually five or six of US actually spent six every night so far. This is our third week And a lot of viewers like like we get twenty twenty five people sometimes watching this. So it's pretty fun and entertaining. I think we it's a little more low key there might be wine involved and Yeah it's on Youtube. If you miss it but it's been it's been a lot of fun And the guests. I just spent a whole bunch of time book and people but getting the guests awesome guests awesome guests. Should I tell? Should I tell the audience Glenn the Awesome Gaddis might as well let them know what's coming up so we got Matt Miller coming up soon? Six new book just came out very exciting. Dr Adam filed just got his PhD. Pretty Exciting Adam file is a good dude and I'm super excited to have him on the pockets. We tried to have him on. We were in Miami And I try to hook up with them after Miami that to get it together but we weren't able to make it work but we're making it work now. I saw so he's book Jennifer Kesse Todd Friend of the POD is coming on. Who Else Michael Hernandez coming up? No Daniel who? It's funny I I sent her a message And we were talking because we we've both brought up the P. Three Broadcast Multiple Times as as as a fun podcast to do so. We're we're having Noah on our podcast which should be per fun. Yeah I'm I'm really excited to turn the tables Jake. Miller really take huge. Jack Miller is huge. That's actually went to talk to him about his journey. Because I know Geisel described Jake Miller as a person that he was always following when he only had a couple of thousand followers and he was doing amazing things and Noah was intentionally trying to get people. You know basically to go. Hey check out what this guy's doing so I'd like to actually hear about his journey as that'll be awesome he is. He is definitely someone. That's I totally think comes up with some amazing ideas for educators in the tech space. So we're going MICA shitty ready learner one At the end of August. So I think not to not to lead that a little bit but I know that there's a book coming out sometime around then because I'm involved in it so hopefully hopefully by then that would be exciting. The other exciting news related to us is that Probably by the time you're listening to this or maybe the day you're listening to this will. Maybe they will. Maybe this will be the one. Maybe you will be the one that gets us over one hundred thousand lifetime downloads. One hundred thousand downloads Glenn. That's insane hundred thousand. That's another number next of one million when what? What is the number that we announced next like? I don't think he'd just like you know. Have A oh we. We were pretty excited about fifty. Yeah so this is one hundred. I think maybe to fifty now half a million have all right so we want. You won't hear anything from US about numbers until we get to half a million now. We'll see you in We'll we'll talk to you about that in a couple of months when when we get there we're gonNA explode so funny you know you put the sign here. But I've been thinking about it a lot. I I think I've said it I said it. Actually I said it on the chat on education live. I used to love grocery shopping. Mother it yeah and now I hate it well. Who can blame you? The reason why I wrote this is friend of the PODCAST. Who has never been on the podcast? Who should definitely be on as a guest Corey Graham posted in a couple of different places? Actually she's just been sharing her thoughts on just the cultural differences from where she actually lives now. Which if you want to know you can go look at twitter and facebook or whatever. My bedtime need to say this to where she lived previously. Which was Minnesota? So she lives now. In the South I would consider it southeast United States and at part of that booth has resulted in and this being a pandemic and in the way that people are treating the seriousness of the virus will just is very different in different parts of the United States. Yes the United States. Just it's crazy house say it. It's crazy how different we actually are in so many different places. I've been talking about from state to state. There are definitely for region to region. Mike goodness it's crazy. That's something I think it's saying that we're that we're just one country which is Kinda cool. That's where unified in that way but yet were so freaking different that each other one of the differences is this specific cases. Corey's describing different things that are going on and one of them was grocery shopping and how she feels like. She's a crazy woman because she wears a mask and no one else is doing it but now she finally felt like she was not a like. She didn't feel singled out because she went to Costco where they have a policy where everyone employees and customers must wear a mask In order to enter the store so then that made me think because Nicole and my wife and I. We haven't got out to do anything we are. We're trying to avoid all human on the outright. We're trying to avoid getting sick. So we are talking about self-isolation. We've been self isolating hardcore and we haven't gone to the grocery stores where like you just said we're not enjoyable. It's very stressful. Sorry a lot of getting food. There's a lot of people delivered There's a lot of people or the we did a couple of times. Drive up the drive up where you drive up and you park and then they bring your vehicle. Yep but anyway. There's a lot of people in the regular grocery stores. I'm going to combat. That are not wearing masks. I don't know why they're not but they're not and it's highly stressful at Costco. We went today and it was the most enjoyable experience for frigging going grocery shopping. Ever because number one you go and you're walking in and every there's people at the door making sure that everyone is that has a mask but not all that they're not doing it in this kind of militant kind of way it's very. It's super awesome customer service. They're like hey thank you so much for coming today a blood. They let us know. We've sanitized all of the cards. We continue to do that as we're as we're putting cycling back out through. Thank you so much for visiting today. And they've just made the store where it feels like you can actually have the six feet of distance between yourself and anybody else. You don't feel like you're freak because you're wearing a mask. Everyone's doing it and you're like it's part of the culture that they've actually built up there and it's part of the safety it's I. I'm so happy that she shared that and that my wife and I were like well. Let's just go. Let's go see what happens. You know and we came out like super happy about. It's about the experience there about being able to go. Hey we can go back there now. We'll go pick up our supplies. We don't have to like ahead so much time and so on and so forth so it's it it super imports and it's so different than telling you Mike. Right now and. I don't know where I know. A lot of our listeners are Minnesota But I think even in different parts of Minnesota probably rural versus urban and and and different regions as far as even within our state. I don't know how many people are out there. And they are not going out to grocery stores and so on and so forth and not wearing the masks you know and how people are feeling about that. You know like as far as the listeners. Right now how are you feeling about that situation and I swear I think people have now just kind of go on? I'll take the risk. This wear that's kind of like the the the general so crazy like the sense that I'm getting from people is like let's just take the risk on just before D- Which is just so freaking crazy and and I think this has that attitude has huge implications of decisions that are going to be made for next fall in our schools. That's the reason that's the big connection between my grocery store in the schools is is. Will we be like Costco or will we be like just a typical? You know especially here in Minnesota like for example Walmart. They don't have any of the guidelines any of those types of things and it's all person for themselves and and a lot of people are just going without protection you know. I think get completely one hundred. Percents going to depend upon the leadership of the within the schools in the culture of those communities which is psycho is should. It depend upon that. It should totally just be like. We're going to do the. We're going to protect our kids in ourselves and do the best that we can. So that's my Costco Story. Went up there. No it's fine. Costco is consistently been the best experience for us to they. Actually Removed checkout lanes at our costco so they they basically took out every other checkout lane. Yes so that there was more space between them It kind of threw me off a little bit because our costco. I don't know about others but our Costco is incredibly busy like almost all the time normally Always like Saturday or Sunday. Parking lot is just absolutely full the whole day and so they've done a really good job. I found I wear a mask everywhere so I have one I just keep it in my pocket kind of it's a cloth mask And I just keep it in my pocket and then I the only places so i. I'm the one who goes out. So I'm the assigned goater in the family. And and but really the truth is the only places I go to the grocery store and to Costco So we we But they're different entirely different at at the grocery store hardly anyone's wearing a mask I I also think like I don't WanNa get too political about it. Even though I think I I think I do think of it politically but I don't think there's a coincidence that you know even in the Barrie area which is a pretty It's like a little conservative bastion in the heart of liberal. And you know. I think that there's something to that a little bit. I mean I think it's been written about enough in the states that you know a lot of these. Us states that are Republican-leaning are the ones that are struggling with it. The most in terms of their masks and rules and laws and you know impeding on people's freedoms or whatever the hell it is when you're trying to keep people from not dying is doing as far as the people wearing the mat. Like not wearing masks goes I don't. I don't think I've gotten upset about it. I think I tend to get upset over like the cognitive dissonance of people like like I've brought up a couple of times the dude in the grocery store wearing like gloves and a mask and like you know basically wearing a gas mask goddess hood over his face and stuff and then he goes and touches every piece of food in the damned grocery store. And it's like you know you just don't you know I don't know how you're like squaring that I just. I don't even know lane. The cognitive dissonance of that and and that type of experience is frustrating and just like the basic rules that the stores have put place that are just there for common like health and safety indecency like the lanes going one way in the grocery store and you know the separation between people like in a lying and it's like just just please respect these things respect each other and you know that you know. I don't want to get you sick to be honest. I don't WanNa get you sick just as much as I don't want you to get me sick. Yeah it's you know we gotta be all in this together. That is the important thing. Is You know that we're working together on this. And there are so many people that just don't care about working together and just care about themselves. I need that thing that I always wanted. And you know I believe in freedom in America stands for freedom and yeehaw. Let's go yeah. I think I don't know if it's yeah. I totally agree with you. On that people feel like their rights are being infringed upon. Because there's obviously this giant thing about Costco. There's a strike. We're not GONNA go there. We're going to stop whatever might be and that's totally fine. Is it just a strange thing to be fighting and battling about were trying to make sure that we are keeping each other safe? But in this case they're taking as we are bridging upon your rights to do whatever the hell you WanNa go and do and that's like really just doesn't make sense but that's so much the United States. There's just there's so much of that back and forth that a lot of the things that we say. Does it make sense to a lot of people and I'm sure it does it actually i. It doesn't so these crazy times. Yes crazy crazy when this is out I promise. I promise I will hit publish on a blog post. That is coming out. So if you've been keeping score at home we've added three new team members we've added. Audrey Thorn borough very cool we added Kelly coon's and making her debut this week with a blog post is Diana buyers. Mcgee very exciting. Diana isn't going to do like the summary Posts and and and stuff like that like Kelly and Audrey are going to do. I've I've asked Diana to be kind of an editorial writer. So she's just gonNA write. Diana is very smart very talented very very years decades of experience a hate given aware age like that but she's retiring And she said to me. She's looking for a creative outlet and and I basically said yeah I mean it was a no-brainer to bring her on she's Acclaimed and super well regarded and As the Technology head of a large district Tons of years decades of experience That I think that everyone will be You know Fortunate to be able to to read some of her wisdom on the nation blog and she wrote a good one for her debut. And I think it's interesting. Because it's it's it's a bit of a play on words. Title is with all due respect on call me. Rockstar. And she hearkens back to the the seventies when when being a rockstar may not have necessarily been a good thing Certainly not something that you would want to model for kids as an example but it turns into a really good article on leadership. The part that I thought was really interesting about this entire thing. Obviously the play on words with the Rockstar but really talking about connecting to. How do we actually become true? Rockstars as administrators like. What are the things that we need in order to do? Our jobs successfully and she really does a great job of breaking down some key things that she believes that in that an administrator administrator or any kind of leadership needs to it needs to become part of who they actually are So the first one there bike she has forgo judgments I mean that's a statement there as and she and she definitely is according a Walt Whitman and and talking about basically how easy it is to go ahead and big judgy about a million different things in education but how important it is to forego that right yeah and then treat employees equally and with respect seems to make a lot of sense. I mean that that feels. It's it's funny that these things even need to be written but you know we've seen so many examples of of of administrators during this crisis that that are definitely not doing some of these things and so that's been frustrating And it makes an article like this paramount in terms of importance. She writes on there too that we need to ensure that we acknowledge everyone. And that made me actually think we have done things in mice specifically in my school Myself and my colleague where we do call out certain people for doing amazing things. And it's made me rethink about whether or not that's A. That's a positive. It's kind like when you acknowledged that specific kid in your class with those specific kids in your class you're not actually acknowledging the group itself it how can create some basically a culture as far as near class where you have kind of like the group. That's your praising but then the other kids you're not really acknowledging their contributions. She put here where they actually might not be as obvious because a lot of times people that get recognized as a rockstar. We have to know this to his the people with the loudest voice like the people that that are that. Just SPEAK UP. That are that are willing to go ahead and speak at a staff meeting or lead a group Spontaneously or intentionally for whatever else it might be work go to conference and deliver a presentation. And it's interesting. I like that. She says we need to take a step back and really see. What are the contributions that our entire team are delivering and make sure that we acknowledge everyone? Otherwise you're abandoning your leaving some people behind totally so we'll want to make sure that you read this. We're GONNA publish it. Get it out to you in the next couple of days and I think you're GonNa love it and and I'm so excited to have her join us and to keep writing so you should see something from her about once a month and and it's GonNa be great when we come back. We're going to be a talking to adobe tasty trowbridge so stay with us go. Guardian Helps Thousands of K twelve school districts. Maximise the learning potential of over eight million students go guardians products enabled productive and safe digital learning by helping educators identified learning patterns protect students from harmful and distracting content and support mental health to sports schools during their distance. Learning transition. Go Guardian is offering free access to their entire product suite until the end of the school year to learn more about gold guardian and download their free resources about distance. Learning visit their distance learning resource center at go guardian dot com slash distance learning. All right. Welcome back to the PODCAST. Everyone Tasty Trowbridge leads. Adobe global education programs and the adobe education exchange where almost a half a million educators go to find and share resources and ideas and be inspired by other great educators. Her career in education began like many do in the classroom where she was a teacher and technology lead in the bay area. Welcome to the podcast tasty. Thanks so much on the Bahir tasty we'd love for you to share a bit about your background and history and what brings you to us today. Well I started my career actually teaching swimming. That's what convinced me that this is where I wanted to be so it sounds like a strange place to start but I would I in the summers in high school. I was teaching students to swim and I loved watching them. Gain new skills gain confidence and be able to do things they couldn't do With did for me was light. A fire of just passion around teaching learning and real excitement around watching someone gain new skills and do things they didn't think they could do I then spent some time as a middle school teacher. I taught English history and I loved the opportunity to help. Students develop their confidence and to gain more flexibility with language as I've been teaching for a number of years the tech coordinator in my school drag me to a conference one weekend that was about digital storytelling and took back to my classroom. Some of what? I learned there where I brought in new opportunities for my students to communicate in different ways and I realize that while teaching the five paragraph essay is a great way to organize your thoughts. Writing is really important skill. It wasn't where communication was going in as a professional. I don't think I've ever convinced anyone of anything with five paragraph essay. Although I learned some valuable skills from that the other thing I noticed as I brought digital video back into my classroom and that kind of storytelling was the students who are great. Writers weren't necessarily great visual communicators. And the students who struggled with writing often found new possibilities as they began to communicate visually unto tell stories and so it it what struck me was the importance of all students having skills that would allow them to be successful in a world that was going to be increasingly Visual increasingly ritual so everyone everyone loves I if I should. I should mention my wife also taught swimming and all through high school as well and and side thought that was weird. Interesting Connection Everyone loves a good origin story. And anyone who's listened to any bit of the podcast over? The last couple of years knows a bit of mine. And there's a weird adobe connection not a weird one a cool adobe connection to it ten year average is one of my heroes Tanya. I wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't for Tanna. And she knows that we've had many talks about it and I am. You know I love that. I consider a friend we hang out and stuff and so that's fantastic. But she was very very influential in me building up my career when I was teaching in the classroom. And she was a big advocate for me and It got me thinking about an we also really love working with Clara. And The Times that we've we've we've worked with her and you know so it it got me thinking about your team and it's actually a lot like the participate team. Interestingly enough how education is at the core of your team in the sense that like you're an educator and was and and and ten is and and like your whole team is is educators. That's at the core of your of Your Group. And you've been with adobe for quite a while. I guess nine years now and I'm thinking about like the team and what you've done not like nine years ago. I wouldn't have listened almost a single adobe product as a must have tool in like Kedah eight or K. To twelve education I really wouldn't but now you know when we go through a list of to eight K. To twelve tools that you would have to have. I mean there's so many so I'd love to talk a bit about your team bit about the last nine years where you know you've done so much like if you had to write a story of like companies that have really brought it in the last night and your ten years Adobe in education have to be near the top of the list will thank you. I'm really glad to hear that. That's exciting I think that I have worked really consciously to build a team of educators and that is Women Usual Group at Adobe as we think about where adobe going and engaging with future creators this is critically important team and we need to have a voice to lean on the great giants ship of Adobe Direction in a way to engage the next generation and one critical way to do that is through educators. So I think of my team as folks who speak education as their first language Then we also speak technology. We speak design and are but those are second languages and so some of what we're trying to do is bring the important voice. The understanding that of being rooted in the classroom and that experience of being able to convey that to a technology company that's designing tools and then also to be able to think about learning design and the best ways in which we can help educators and students be inspired and empowered to tell their own stories to gain the critical skills and knowledge that they need. I would say that some of what's helped us over. The last nine years is also what's happened in the landscape when I started as a technology coordinator Students came to the lab and I worked mostly with teachers to help them figure out how to integrate technology into curriculum but the lab was where everything lived. I had the expertise and knowledge. I had the tools people could come into my space. It is completely one hundred percent the opposite now. That students come in with all of tools that they need even just on their smartphone. They come in with experience and with interest outside of the classroom and so the role of educators has really shifted so I wish I could take credit for this but I really kept partly about just the nature of communication the kinds of tools that we have at our fingertips the understanding of the power of media and digital video as a way to help communicate who we are to change minds to get ideas across and so I think that's really the critical shift. I will say the other thing that my team doesn't Claire as a fabulous example of this. She's deeply connected to other educators the further you get from the classroom the harder it is to remember it was like and so some of what we do is listen really carefully to the eight hundred thousand educators on the exchange to the leadership communities to understand what circumstances look like particularly today as we face really unprecedented times standing who are audiences with the kinds of things that they need and the ways in which we can help them has been critical so tasty. I'm an instructional coach. And we're always looking for tools to put in the hands of our students that will help them to express their ideas through creation. But we're looking for tools without a big learning curve to allow the focus to be on the learning and the content of content area and not on the learning of a specific tool One of the tools that Mike and I have raved about on the podcast is adobe spark which if educators out there listening. If you haven't tried this tool out with your students you should do this immediately. It is simple to use but it allows students to create professional products Is the simplicity behind these tools. Intentional am imagining. So and I'd like to hear more about kind of when you guys are even your team or or just you guys when you're having these conversations putting these tools specifically into the hands of kids. What's the thought process behind that absolutely? I think that's such a spark. Tools are such a great example. The the when this started just as the seed of an idea. The engineer who was leading this project his wife was a teacher so he talked a lot to her about use cases understanding what how things would work in the classrooms and welcomes have evolved tremendously since then the core principle about designing a tool. That is easy to use. That's web base where the technology barrier that design barriers are are low so it's easy to create something beautiful and it. Lets you stay focused on what? You're trying to communicate. That's absolutely the intent behind spark and the set of tools that WANNA make it easy to stay focused on your story. That's the hardest part. The technology is easy to get distracted by but the most important thing is the content that you're creating the story that you're telling and so creating a tool that is web based where you don't all you need to do is know how to click a plus button is a really critical strategy and directly designed to empower students. Who are as young as my son in in second grade. He started using spark in kindergarten to be able to use a tool that can create things that are beautiful and powerful and this is the way we want students to demonstrate their learning to write like. It's you know especially in the time that we're going through right now where where there's a lot of transition A lot of shifts in mindset in terms of grading You know standardized tests have been thrown out the window You know completely Building up your what. You've learned in terms of demonstrating that stuff though hasn't hasn't gone away in shouldn't go away. We just need to find more creative ways to do it. So talk a little bit about how adobe and how it's being used in the classroom to build you know we can call them portfolios or call them You know other other ways to demonstrate what you've learned then just the mark that's on the on the sheet of paper that goes home. That isn't GonNa Happen in some places this year absolutely and I think we've got a really interesting opportunity as educators to rethink assessment and the ways in which we can help students demonstrate what they know and can do their competencies their their ability to reach particular standards. That lots of the ways in which we've done that have gone out the window absolutely that schools are making decisions about grading based on equity. And who has? They don't want a grade privilege and essentially the students who have access to devices who have access to the Internet who have quiet spaces to work. Are The students are GONNA do well? That's not the point for anyone and I think that poses a real challenge for us to figure out. How do we do assessment? I'm hopeful that one of the things that lasts beyond this The current situation that they're that we're in is really a deep focus on. What are the right ways to assess student learning and as I look at the possibilities around portfolio? I think there's some really exciting. They're exciting ways in which students can use portfolios to show who they are what they no one can do to show their growth and change over time to tell a story about where they want to go there interesting opportunities as the college admission process ships for next year where they won't be relying on standardized testing where a transcript is harder to evaluate when some districts are gratings. Some districts have shifted to pass fail. A Some districts are just basing your great on the. I work that you did in this in this particular time periods so I think the the push for students to really think about. What do they know and can do? And how do they demonstrate that Gives them both the flexibility to bring in things that they're doing within their classrooms within their schoolwork and their online learning but also to bring in their experiences. Now some of them are working. Some of them may be taking care family and different kinds of ways and the things that they're learning as they are communicating with the broader community critically. Important and so. I think we've got an exciting opportunity right now. To rethink segment to incorporate ideas around portfolio. We already know that that colleges that employers look at people so social media profiles to be intentional about the story that you're telling and curate that so that you're communicating. What's important about you? And whether that's the arc of your growth or it's where you've ended up I think they're just great possibilities for students right now. So during cove nineteen and now distance learning many of our educators are just basically reaching out and trying to find resources and trying to find great ideas. Not just okay ideas. Great ideas of a hot cocoa and connect with their students said and really make the learning meaningful. How is adobe supporting educators? During this crisis we're in for things we did. Very quickly was start to pull together Distance learning resources and we pulled from a variety of different places. We will look at the best practices that we had already on the education exchange of. Which is Adobe Free Platform for educators? We pull together resources for people who were just getting started. And we're lucky in that. So many of the educators work with our digital media experts and are great at communicating through the kinds of media. That that everybody is relying on today so we looked for best practices. We worked with folks like Tanya to make sure that we could highlight the work. She's been doing and and give her a microphone to be able to watch live streams. I've been watching a couple of them. They've been great and I think we've seen some great educators participating we also Worked on creating resources with Khan Academy that it caught recall plus create that essentially take some of those resources that are student facing an add. A place where you can create something or make something in response to those so part of what we've been trying to do is look at the ways in which we can help educators who are having to transition credibly quickly and I think the first few weeks everyone was focused on the right things. At least. That's what came across to me. They were focused on connection. How do we maintain some consistent communication with students? How do we ensure that all students have access? And I think we're we're heading is also really interesting whereas we move beyond the crisis into. How do we really ensure that learning happens? Well then we're asking different questions. What are the kinds of skills? That were teaching. What are the kinds of opportunities that students have to learn new things? It's not about covering content. But that's really developing the critical competencies. That will meet with face. A tremendous amount of change so tasty we We generally ask this question near the end of the interview. We don't give anyone a heads up on it because it's fun and and so we're asking you this question to and to be honest to be fair every answers great. So don't be worried about it at all. I love to know what three pieces of media three things? Three books three videos anything that has inspired you. Something that you consumed were growing and learning any any three pieces of media. That taught you something. You may be a book. You reread all the time or anything. Any any pieces of media that we can share with the audience that they can go and listen to or read as well as they continue learning to. Well I think one of the things I'm gonNA reference is is the assemblies that my son school have been putting on during Copa Nineteen. So one of the things they've done is have they perform a song and the teachers all sang a stand by me to the students. I can't send you to look at this because of privacy concerns or something that's really powerful to me about people coming together to do something that's kind that's bigger than themselves conveying. The story of who they are. My son loves to watch IT WITH ME because it makes me cry at a time when she thinks hysterical but honestly it's the it's watching these teachers in their commitment to the students they're reaching out through music Through video to make sure that students don't feel alone that they get to see their teachers with their dogs in their back yards are tucked away in a corner their house. But there's something personal about that. There's something universal so that that's not a great one to answer your question. It's the one that really stands out to me right now And then I. I've been thinking a lot about Station Eleven. I don't know if you've read that book. But it is kind of an end of the world book about about an epidemic essentially that wipes out a huge percentages of the population and what survives and how people as humans come together. So the the thread for me. Is this like what's the point of connection? How big your out. How to learn from each other to recreate meaning how to stay engaged with other people how to be kind in really challenging and trying circumstances and so that's one I've read a number of times and then the other one and I taught middle school. I Love Young adult fiction. So I'm going to talk about a book like Herron has then. Of course the title is escaping me right now but maybe. I'll talk about out of the dust. Which is a book she wrote about the dust bowl which is inverse It sounds like such a strange Middle School Book. But it's really a beautiful story about a family and it's told so poetically language that's really powerful and so I picked a just a book two books and one piece of media some of the things that I that I come back to you that billionaires tasty. Where can people connect with you if they were to be able to ask questions and follow up with anything? Where's the shares? Maybe the easiest way is on twitter. I'm at tasty Tac Y zero. W Casey thanks so much for joining us. This was great pleasure. Thanks for the opportunity. I really appreciate the work that you all do. Thanks for listening to on education my name is Glenn or even my co host. This Mike Washburn on education is part of the on podcast media network. You can listen to this show and many others by great educators like Burns. Mike Mattera Tissue Richmond and many more by visiting on PODCAST MEDIA DOT COM. WanNa get in touch with us. Check out our website at on education. Podcast DOT COM. You can tweet us at on Education Pod. 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Quick Jam #4: The D.E.N.N.I.S. System of Player Hype

Bleeding Green Nation

00:00 sec | 3 months ago

Quick Jam #4: The D.E.N.N.I.S. System of Player Hype

"Sports betting dime DOT COM provides the coverage fans need to bet with confidence every time find the best odds, track key trends and make smarter bets on all your favorite sports. Check it out at sports betting dime. Dot Com. quickly, Koto get quick. Michael Kiss espy nation bleeding green nation episode of four Quick Jam. Look it was an off day on Saturday BGN Radio One, thirty, seven at covered Friday's practice. We're going to touch on some of what happened they are, and we're GONNA. Have some fun first let's get caught up on injuries and there's a couple of new ones to report from Friday as. A day to day with an upper body knocked safety marcus apps also feeling wonky up top he is dated date as well. Defensive End Sheriff, Miller quarterback receive Douglas wide receivers, taper net and Jalen Reagan were listed with an unspecified illness. No ideal with that could be but remember Duke rightly had just come back from an illness. So perhaps there's above going around guys still missing practice Mile Sanders Derek Barnett Jevon. Hardgrave Boston Scott in Sydney Jones Dallas Goddard. Suffered A. Hairline fracture in his thumb during the week, he might be back in in a splint next week but it's nothing major to worry about on Friday Jason Peters was limping at one point and was pulled his first team reps right. Guard were supplanted by Matt Pryor, and I'll say is going to be frustrating tracking Pierre South out the season but having prior there is also the rookie Jack Driscoll makes it less catastrophic if peters is going to miss him snap source of. Weeks Carson Wentz is connection with Sean. Jackson has carried over from last year's campaign week one where Jackson had eight catches on nine targets for one hundred, fifty, four yards in two touchdowns. The two were dialed into each other during Friday's practice with Jackson getting a ton of targets. If Jackson is healthy double digit games this year, you can expect big numbers to come out relationship speaking of receivers. Jj Ogle whiteside is getting a lot of on first team at X. Receiver, which is where alshon Jeffery would normally aligned. He's making the most of it to grabbing some contested catches for big gains and touchdowns in the Friday practice, and he's been pretty open with the media about how his two thousand nineteen just flat out wasn't good enough. You know as a fan of Jay. Johnson the predrag process I think he's a perfect candidate for the dentist system of player evaluation. Let's get to a special segment where I explain how that system works. Gentle listeners. The dentist system is a comprehensive approach to player hype that I have perfected over the years. See My success was scouting does not solely stemmed from my good looks and my extremely great brain. This is a careful systemic approach has allowed me to become the evaluator I n today. Now, the first step to hyping any prospect is to d demonstrate their value in my most recent case, my subject, the Sidney, Jones a talented but injured prospect coming out of Washington I demonstrated his value by highlighting what he looked like pre injury and I told people, this is what he will be but he's quite. Injured thus demonstrating his value as a viable prospect, all around great player. Once you've demonstrated their value, you're going to want to pound the table. Once you've founded that table, you WANNA move onto e. engaged physically I personally try to engage by watching highlight reels, identifying where the place happened in the game, and then clipping those from the all twenty two is no need to actually watch the full coaches film, which is really just a waste of time but I will tell people that I watched several games of the all twenty two, which makes it sound cool makes on exclusive and that's when the hive mind. Waltz begins the fan base in the all twenty to lock eyes and Ablaza Fiery Homer Ism Sidney Jones is good. You're the one that's good. Okay. Now, once you've sold the fan base on a player that naturally start to depend on him when projecting team success, which brings me to the I N nurturing dependence you're gonNA, want nurture that dependence that they're feeling about him. Guys talk about the lack of depth at his position post out of context stats film about his competition or you can use my personal goats who talk about the need for cheap young talent with a team that is going to or. Is paying their quarterback, do it on a podcast and be all dramatic with something like I'm watching the top, they're going to be screwed a twenty one. Now if you completed all the other steps properly up to this point, fans will naturally WanNa take the relationship to the next level. But you're not GonNa do that you're going to do the exact opposite pull back guys pull back which brings me to the second end neglect emotionally stop tweeting about the player ignore all of his bad plays maybe that fear mongering about the cap situation comes back and you're not around to cool it off. Hello Welcome to capitol. This will frighten the data them. Okay and the fans will really start getting mixed up because you're not there to assuage their fears they'll start questioning the team and that's a perfect time to I inspire. Hope in Sydney's case I went on a podcast and screened gentle listeners listen listen wait I wanted to tell you that the reason that I was so quiet about Sidney Jones is because I was afraid he was. Going to break my heart and I got scared but I'm not scared anymore eighty I'd love him. We need him in the naturally we stand and this is the best Dan of all because it's very emotional for them. They think Sydney's broken through my tough exterior shell coerced hype from a man who is afraid to love, and then I slink out to the night never to talk about him again as separate entirely. D. E. N. N.. I S. The dentist system that my friends is the key to hiding any play. Overall on Friday was the defense that put the best work in during the practice with Fletcher Cox and Maliki Jackson being disruptive other standouts according to build your Josh Sweat Hassan Ridgway Joe Oestmann and Casey to Hill Oestmann got enjoyed. My Ladas had a little bit at the end of the practice by Lada slammed his helmet in frustration about his performance time is ticking on that experiment. But remember it's only one practice and look my Lada did a lot better against denard avery. So it wasn't all negative for the Aussie keeping with the defense one guy that really thrived and live tackling new free agent acquisitions. Safety will parks reports indicate that he was in on a number of tackles plane. Was a real intensity in these sessions he'll be fighting for third safety reps during the season. Hopefully, he's the solution to what has been a sore thumb for the eagles. In recent years I'm looking at you Corey Graham the eagles were off on Saturday, but practice continue today on Sunday. Of course, we're going to have it covered for you here at Bgn. So keep it locked here. Make sure you're subscribed Lee five stars in a written review in Apple podcast. If you're feeling inclined to support the feet, it really does help and that'll do it for episode four of quick jam go spray some deer antler spray on your face like is the chrome for Mad Max and go have yourself again. Gee. This week show is brought to you by sports betting dime dot com your source for the latest odds betting trends, matchup analysis, and advice sports. 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The Kist & Solak Show #42: Sleepless In Jim Schwartz's Shorts

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44:53 min | 2 years ago

The Kist & Solak Show #42: Sleepless In Jim Schwartz's Shorts

"They. Hi, this is Jim chica- our podcast step over will be ballers podcasts that work for all of your Sixers needs. Says game breakdowns with a course in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts heathen, I tune Stitcher sparked by or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Michael kissed Benjamin. So it's the Kistin Solex show presented by SP nation and leading nation. You are flying high on the kissed and Solex show episode forty two takes too. Michael kissed. Threw me off to brought to you by Espy nation and bleeding green nation while me at Michael kissed NFL as always joined by the dog on best co host in the game up for debate right now you're streak without a bad day. He's Benjamin select follow him on Twitter at Benjamin. So like, that's SOL K, Ben how you doing brother. I used to see you again. So if anybody missed the very subtle innuendo. There's a chance that I forgot the hit record when we started recording this show. But we only got like ten minutes ends even call them down. Honey. Okay. It wasn't that bad. We had some great law takes we had two great Portillo's takes both places. I very much enjoy our wall on Portillo's takes that. They're good. Those are great taste like men, these places are tasty. Yeah. But we got into the nuance of like this time of year. You you like your peppermint coffee. I liked by Turkey bowl the cranberry sauce wa wa I thought it was all very well done. You are interested in the chain convenience slash little food, grocery could ever coffee places that we go to you can hit us up on Twitter, and we will tell you that information that you have it. So you can send us Starbucks in wall gift cards for the holiday season. See what I did there? I like that very good transition. Ben. I like how you save that. So unfortunately, we started get into talking about this game. So we're going to do it again. Then we are going to go over this injury report. We are recording on Thursday morning, by the way, I'm Ben I'm letting you don't have to look at me like that. I'm letting you go I'm moving on. We're we're we're the fourth reference to there's one unless you know, that you've made four I to make sure you off up-to-date on that. You know, I minimum of five. So I got one more coming your way throughout among usually set a ceiling on these things that I four well, my the ceiling is the roof. I don't know. Does that apply a ha- Mike Jordan there it is? So we got to go through the injury report from Wednesday again, we're recording on Thursday morning. So the next BGN radio. Oh show will have a more up-to-date report on what happened today. But for right now, this is what we're dealing with on Wednesday did not participate for the Philadelphia Eagles Ronald Darby, of course, with his knee just had been put on I r yet Jalen mills with his foot, which could be a big deal. The offensive tackle alluding outta who was dealing with with a calf earlier in the year is now dealing with a knee the thirty four year old defensive tackle tied in Joshua. Perkins suffered a significant knee injury. According to Peterson is going to miss a lot of time. Probably the rest of the season if I could take guess running back during sproles, obviously with a hamstring did not participate limited participation offense of tackle lane. Johnson police comeback. I just dropped a piece on bleeding green nation dot com about how the eagles are having to gain plan around hopefully to tie because they have to give him so much help in. It's hampering the offense can do from his standpoint. So we hope he's back dealing with MC L sprain. Also Sidney Jones with the hamstring was a limited participant, please. Come back, Sydney. This. Defensive secondary is a mess. Speaking of it being a mess. We held a scare when I saw on Twitter that there was a picture of Malcolm Jenkins with a cast on his hand. Apparently, he's dealing with a wrist injury. However, it looks like he will be playing his status is not in question. At least what it looks like Ben it would be catastrophic with what this secondary is dealing with right now. And as we talk about this, the main topic of the show is going to be the saints offense against the eagles defense this ties in well with that. But if note, Malcolm jank is can you imagine what it would be? If Malcolm Jenkins for us. We branch is we put seven defenders I've playing with the secondary. All right 'cause that would be better defense than putting out. Channon sullivan. Douglas, trace on than Corey Graham, literally how okay if they put if they put that secondary house with thirty to thirty nine thirty seven to twenty four your average eagle fan recognizes how many of those play. Oh, jeez. Man watered like to maybe probably probably a little bit more than two because you have like most guys can recognize tool in Corey Graham. And then a few people are getting trae Sullivan. No one's gonna no chain of solvent is so yeah. Like like sixty percent of that secondary. We recognized by the fan, which not even trying to despair eagle fan. Say y'all don't know the team. We're simply playing two guys who were practiced waters something this year and one who's been injured for a super long period of time and just came back. And then the other one is who I think everybody knows because he school so. Yeah. That would be deaf call on eleven especially because also no one would know who deep it's Dakhil seventy four is because listen if we didn't know only too, I've MacGill's mom news. That's who that was. Nobody else said it's that's funny too. Because I was I started to watch the tape of the Cowboys game, and I messaged tuna slack. You'll who seventy four is that appeal and you're like, yes, yes. It is. And it was because literally during the game, I two. Out like this anybody know MacGill's first name like IDO. I can't find it anywhere. All he was really really bad. But I don't really know what else to be expected. But it was still sad. The so if Jenkins needs to use my hand or arm or whatever he needs he can because otherwise we're taking down the metaphorical bleeding green nation banner reporting up NFL banner, which can be an NFL podcast. Okay. Transitioning over to the saints, injuries note that's relevant in dub tails nicely with the main topic of this show. Saints offense eagles defence, obviously. The saints are second in pro football. Focuses pass blocking efficiency metric Brees has only been pressured. Twenty five percent of the time. This has led to them being the most or suit me the fourth most efficient passing offense per football, outsiders Devia way, which measures officiency also the eighth best rush offense. This is the first game of the year, though, that they are going to be without stud, left tackle Theron arm. Instead who was playing out of his mind at left tackle for them planes. Really good football for them. He's going to be replaced by the journeyman veteran. German Bushrod also limited with the knee was right. Tackle ryan. Ramczyk the twenty four year old second your man out of Wisconsin. I love coming out in the draft. And you know, he's not Armstead. But he has been really really really good for them. This year also left guard Andrews, Pete dealing with hip. He was limited. So the saints are concerned about the banged up line and took extra precautionary measures on Wednesday. You got max Unger, the apprehension Bushrod, and then also Larry warford. They were limited in practice. But it was a choice to limit their practice. It was not injury related, obviously, they wanna try to keep those line as healthy as possible. Ben your take on this injury report for other team. I was so pleasantly surprised to watch the saints offense of film and realize that not dissimilar to the 2017. Philadelphia Eagles drew Brees rightfully Todd. Of credit private insane season. We're gonna get there. You know, though, the running backs you're playing very well, obviously Kamaruddin Ingram. Get a ton of attention in Kamara was a recent pack, and he was off. It's rookie of the year last year so gets warranted. Attention Michael Thomas, playing out of his dog online incredible stats can't wait to talk about what he's doing. But simply the offensive line is the unit makes his team go you don't complete over seventy percent of your passes as quarterback if you're barely getting pressured as you alluded to listen this Ramsey, my didn't even realize runs the ball the third highest percentage among all all teams in the league. You know, the drew Brees MVP candidate. You said the Rams team this saints team runs Vall, Michael the Rams the fifth most in the league, by the way, which is conversation will have we the Rams, right? But these teams who are Jared Goff MVP candidate. You know, drew Brees began to they're running the ball at a much higher. Click that a lot of other teams are you know, what I mean if you look at the top of like the pass attempts right number one by far the New York Giants drafted by that number two of all. Well, anyway. Mm. It's not to use them as dynamic receiver. Anyway, it's all check downs. But go ahead. Nolan's is running the ball at a of forty six percent click that's tied for third highs in the league only behind Tennessee Seattle. So this is a team that is doing a vast multitude of different running schemes in different ideas, using their personnel. Very very very well. In terms of they get to back sets out into the field issues. Tastes hill. Funny ways. They've got multiple tight end sets. They bring out. Wow. It sounds like multiple tight end sets over the effective than. Yeah. They are. Thanks for asking a level. Two tight end sets. Anyway. This is a team that works on unbalanced line sets in. They do a ton of different things. Give you a lot of looks trapped WAM Philadelphia likes to use the loves again, a max hunger their center Andrews pizza, left guard to are pretty good on the huff look at them moving on and the right tackle Ryan. Ramczyk the set in your player, Wisconsin isn't athletic guy, who has good experience face as well. So they can get those guys moving crack sauce the G lead. It's a lot of very few. Yeah. They were very fun isolation stuff. And again, I loved the way the us come are on the running game. Because I don't think Kamara is the best inside runner in the world until they give him a lot more looks rates. Basically similar space looks what you get like as a swing bazzar screen pass. You get about their on g leader crack toss his reading like two blocks, and he's got a room to work in. That's where he's at his best. And so they're running game. You know? Oh, it's the classic situation of you know, what's Jim Schwartz defense always going to try to do is always try to get plus one in the box. The saints are very willing to go heavy on you. So to keep in tight end and two running backs four she put eight in the box and then leader two corners out on islands and deep safety. And once they get Michael Thomas on an island against any Philadelphia corner. Regards healthy, who's not a sin, rob? All right. And this is how smart teams of attack you'll so far this year. Go heavy isolate your receivers in space for Philadelphia to a deep cover one. And then be it'd be the corners man coverage, and that's what you should expect the safe. Pretty heavily. But it's the running game very effective. I mean, you you saw that too. It's not just heavy to isolate Thomas, which they'll do in. They'll do it in the in the red zone. They'll throw in the comebacks, curls, the slants and everything like that. They'll also go five wide, and they'll put him next to Kamera and the stack or they're having like real close to each other and defenses have to make a choice, and you saw the Los Angeles Rams make the choice of they were gonna put an extra focus on Alvin Kamara and next thing. You know, you get that slot fade route from Michael Thomas and he's off to the racist. One on one with Marcus Peters without any help and big score for the Saint. So there's so much that they do for just mixing things up formation Lii and giving you the same look, but the having four or five different really unique things that they can do with it, you know, life after Ted Ginn has caused them to use Alvin Kamara Moore's wide receiver. He leads the league in frequency of slot reps for running backs at eighteen point five percent. They use outside a lot too. So then you look at the saints offense. And one of the things you want. To do is look at games where they performed below their normal success level right now they are leading the league in scoring. So two games stand out when you look at it just face value week two against the Cleveland Browns were this twenty one points week seven against the Baltimore Ravens were they scored only twenty four points. Those are the only two games where they went under thirty points as an offense. Now, there's a major problem with this beyond the particulars of those two games. First up is the fact that the ravens game was played outside for his career in a dome vers playing outside. Breeze completes five five percent. More of his passes has a twelve point higher QB rating and almost a full yard more of yards per tempts averages sixty more yards per game and has a much better. Touchdown to interception ratio going further than that a study done by pinnacle dot com a couple years ago. Took a look at league wide scoring from two thousand three two thousand fifteen and found that dome and retractable roof venues averaged three point eight more points per game. And the core. Elation was found to be strong enough that during that same period Vegas average three points higher with their over unders when a game was being played in a dome. It makes a difference by the way this game is being played in a dome, and as I got this. You would even call it a super dome and back to those two games against the Browns and the ravens which had relatively low scoring outputs. The ravens Browns are both top ten db away defense's per football, outsiders, the saints were also in scoring position against the ravens in five of their only seven drives. One of them was a ten minute drive that got stuffed on fourth and one shortly followed by a ravens drive that leads lasted seven and a half minutes and yielded a field goal. So it's about eighteen minutes with a total of three point score between both teams. So it's not that the ravens quote, unquote. Stop the saints the clock stopped the saints and the saints also scored seventeen of their twenty four points in the second half. And by the way, the saints also lead the league in second half scoring. So there's that too in the Brown thing week to I. Drive for the saints ended in a fumble by Michael Thomas, and we often talked about how counting on those just isn't sustainable. The next drive. The saints marched down get a touchdown on a play. That is almost exactly like the play that Ezekiel Elliott scored on instead of being a passive when it was a touch pass. But same idea say misdirection in a similar deception is something that we've struggled with his year. You wrote about it for bleed green dot com. But that play is called back on what I thought was ticket tackled and call so they have to settle for a field goal. So they started slowly there. And these are the types of breaks in this is kinda my point that the eagles are going to need. Then third drive third drive of this game. Ted Ginn fumbles, and it was a hustle play to knock it out and a hustle play to recover. And that's what the eagles are going to need all those little things and they'd gone wrong. For us a lot this year as part of the problem. But if we're being honest with ourselves, and I think we are as a fan base. I think we recognize this defense is in trouble and the saints are rolling. We're going to need help from the. These types of plays from these types of breaks. If we get them we have to capitalize because you don't get many gifts against the saints team. I had to dig real deep for those. The look how far I had to dig just to get you some defenses that quote, unquote, slowed them down in there were very good reasons for it. But to really emphasize this I think as a fan base we had this idea that teams we're going to roll over for us. And now we have this idea that we're going to ruled over for the saints so many needs to make an impact plate early because the defense has not done it consistently this year. They haven't put multiple place together this year. They haven't got the big stop with needed it, especially not multiples, and we can talk scheme. We can talk Xs knows and what coverages deploy against one align is because of tendency and all that jazz in it's all great. And I love doing it. But screw all that for a moment. Play with your hair on fire. Go make an impact plate early that changes the landscape of this game. And see what happens eagles were gigantic favorites over the Cowboys saints gigantic favorites over the eagles. Sometimes teams outplay other teams. I am. Wow. Waiting just once just once this season for that to be the case in a dogfight against a good football team with this Belfi eagles football team. Go be that team against the saints Gobi the team that won a Super Bowl that just kicks the dog crap out of the other team and hustles them. And if we laid down than sorry, Peter King, you're going to hear a lot more booing throughout the season. And quite frankly, the fans aren't wrong for it. So Ben also fourth possession of the Browns game forty four yard misfield goal. You need those breaks at this point. I will take lucky over good any day of the week being a position to make a play when you have a chance to be lucky. Ben the floor is yours pal. I absolutely agree in the sense that as a as a as a good teams are more lucky typically than than we liked to admit bad teams to more unlucky to me like to admit simply because we want to be able to have reasons for things, you know, if they're reasons for teams to form, we don't have jobs, so we kind of need that to be the case. But there's obviously there's more fortune to. Then we like a game of inches. And we we deny that we kind of smooth that over in our heads to make it a neater correlation. So he can feel good about ourselves. If you want to subscribe to that idea, Mike, Philadelphia is a nine point underdog opened as a seven and a half underdog currently nine by the last lines. I saw they have not yet lost a game this year by more than one possession. And I'm pretty sure you would have to go all the way back deep into last year to find a game, which they lost by more than one possession, especially when was playing was the will the they got the garbage touchdown against the chiefs in week two. So okay. So they lost a Seattle touchdowns. Oh, there you go. Yeah. They lost a Seattle by touchdown to that is the only game in the last two years that Carson Wentz has lost by more than a touchdown. So if you want to sell yourself, Eddie that this will at least be closed that there will there will be a fourth quarter. You know, a chance for Philadelphia to potentially make things interesting. I mean. Yeah. Philadelphia. Typically done that obviously the going gets New Orleans which I don't think there's a team in the league right now. Playing better football, the New Orleans simply I think New Orleans playing the best football league over Kansas City over Los Angeles. Boom there it is. But Philadelphia plays teams close. Now, if they're close then you're back into a situation where Carson Wentz may have another game winning game-tying slash game. Winning fourth quarter drive opportunity. One in eight or something like that is two thirteen and the bad really bad numbers. So I'd love for him to get one under his belt. I don't know if it'll come against the New Orleans Saints be crazy for did of life from the bible to start winning those you kinda worry about him when he's in those situations because that's not what he's been strong in terms of this this New Orleans offense. And when it's able to do you in the passing game, obviously they're trying to bring in a guy like Dez Bryant because they don't have super great death at the wide receiver position as we speak will Ted Ginn Izzo Cameron. Meredith is out there trying to replace Meredith with Dez and then Desmond Brown with the achilles injury is. So right now, it's Michael Thomas who's playing at an unbelievable trae Quant Smith, rookie UCF who is good in my opinion. But you know, as third round rookie wide receiver to make sense. Austin Carr, the second zagging year undrafted free agent type UDF Anna, northwestern, just as smaller sly guy, who you know, kind of. I thought you were not recyclable. We're gonna say the second coming of west Welker. And I was like, whoa. High praise from Ben didn't see this now is is type. Okay. I'll put it this way the type where northwestern fans watched him and said all he's probably gonna be Wes Welker that level watched him and said, well, if he was quick that would help, but he's not a shuttle, Michael Thomas, Mike. Yeah. God. While Michael Thomas has not caught. I believe it's to pass that on his way. So far this year. Let me find his updated catch rate. Hang on. I know from the slot. He has failed to catch to I will leave. It is. Yeah. Thirty hits his. His thirty receptions. What is overall cash rate only go find it? Hang on. It's absurd. It's record. Breaking his red zone. Numbers are high two. Okay. So Mike tenure just tweeted out lucky. Michael Thomas ninety percent of his targets for the saints higher. Catch rate than Kamera. Michael Thomas could drop his next ten targets and he would still have the highest single season catch rate for a wide receiver. Ben get this in the red zone. He's second in the NFL in red zone targets behind Alvin Kamara by the way, who's caught sixty passes in the red zone. Michael Thomas is on eighteen of his fifteen targets in the red zone. For six touchdowns are supposed to be more difficult for the offense saves tweeted this out two days ago through nine games tied for number one in receptions with seventy eight tie at number one in catch a ninety percent. Number two receiving yards. Number two receiving yards per game. Number two and first downs five in receiving touchdowns and ten and targets. So he's gonna set NFL record four catch rate while being taught. Ten in pure targets in the league. But it's like special amount of volume. But also he's going to catch more balls per target than anybody else in history. Here's my favorite. Here's my favorite sad that I found Michael Thomas 'cause they liked us. Thomas in the slot. Lots. Ryan they run the slop route with him and slop rows is fantastic route. And slop brow is slot option. Is what it stands for basically Thomas gets matched up on somebody who has no business playing 'em. Typically, a worse nickel corner. Or if you're in zone, it's like a safety zone nonsense, and he has the option to break left writer up depending on where he likes the leverage. What safety he reads and drew Brees can basically hit him in any window. Right. So even like Thomas will make the wrong read or like like the Bengals would trap the Thomas slop, route the Bengals would pull their poll their corner down and try to trap that outside cut embryo throw it anyway, just headache because he's breeze. Right. This is why it's not fair like Thomas ran like not the wrong rambling the Bengals were ready for it and Bruce Campbell, screw you. So Michael Thomas from the slot. He's third in the league right now in. Saving percentage with ninety three point eight. Okay. Only be by Brandin cooks and Yager Hopkins. Go on I'm looking at it. Also leads the league in yards per route run from the slot. So we're talking about six yours parole. I just pulled this up. That's insane. That's scream it from a metal top. That's wild do and that's ninety six snaps. Ninety-six snaps. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. He leads the league in toria percentage from the slot reports would so so when he's lying in the slot. Nobody's getting targeted more. Nobody's generating more yards. Parral N. Nobody's catchable more frequently except for two people Brandin cooks deandre Hopkins. Who are both kind of good aren't know if you heard he like if you wanted to illustrate how to dominate position you'd like, okay? We'll get more targets than anybody else there percent. Get more yards per round bales their snap and don't drop anymore balls anybody else. Michael like, okay. I will do all three sound good. That's. Bananas. That's while. I can't believe that as looking that up that that is that is crazy in in what they do with him and Camara together. It's just it's a pain, dude. Like we talked about before. What do you do if you're the eagles defense when you see that they've got five lied, and you you've got to slog is which are Michael Thomas and Elvin, Kamara and they're in a stack, and you know, one of those guys is going to get your linebacker in coverage safeties can't cover Alvin Kamara. Nobody can cover Michael Thomas who who do you bracket who you put the attention on. What are you giving up because of it? I mean, that's that's the big problem with dealing with this offense. Is you can't beaver no against them. But going to force you out of it. You're going to have to do some specialty just gonna toast to all day. They're going to be so efficient against you all day that those again, this is not a deep shot defense. But even when they do Reza's sixteen for for twenty six on people's before touchdowns out of quarterbacks with at least thirty deep ball pass attempts. Drew brees. Has the highest quarterback rating on deep passes in the league at one hundred seventeen point four so Siamese just short stuff either we talked about they don't do it much. They do it at a very low frequency, but when they do they can crush you by the way, tastes hill. You saw came in on third down. I think it was last week and threw a forty four yard pass to awfully action. Which is why let me tell you screw tastes in. Hell let me tell you. Why screw tastes in hell this saints? If you chart their personnel have twenty six different personnel groupings its way is live eagle, which literally is against the law. I would say the average NFL team has nine. Yeah. That'd be my guess like probably in like you'll see like you'll you'll get these these personal frequency breakdowns. Right. And you'll see like sixty two percent here. For a limited personnel. Twenty percent here for twelve. And then you get like the little str- stragglers. Like, okay, they go four wide receivers, you know, with one running back maybe percent of the time in two running backs with with with one tight end. Maybe. One percent. The saints all over the place where they're so they're like we talked about the Carolina Panthers offense being real like diversity in creative and Sona support this saints offense does so much that you have to prepare for the new thrown a backup quarterback that they can throw the ball at an a high enough level that you have to respect it. Such a problem to game plan for I would be sleepless. If I was Jim Schwartz sleepless in shorts, right? So some. What are we so? Right. So you said in the sense that how do you how are you able to stop this breeze can still throw a deep in whatever they obviously have a line, and they don't surrender a lot of pressures the kind of blanket solution. Like, they kind of the ideas you have to move into fire zone zone is that's what you have to expect. You can't match up on the men on the Browns did it and the Browns got a couple of acts on third downs. In key situations, you have to you need to be about his own. But the scary thing is owned. Let's leave various susceptible to the run. So you really only can do it in passing situations. Hell frequently gate, can you get into keep asking situations against this team right through to south around. I down very well. What happens if they start throwing on first down, and you kinda lose tendency in that regard. And so you had a call your zone blitz. Very timely. You're probably gonna get bit by couple of them. I can't make you skittish. You gotta be able to come back to when you gotta go five five cent five drop six three under three overs. Would you got play especially because you're gonna be getting option routes from Thomas getting option routes from chimera under? As well on. So you need a drop into those owns than very quickly. Get connected, which is an insanely difficult ask and when you drop in his own let's very often like the whole idea behind zone is like oh look for sending a coroner in linebacker dropping defensive end. Look at us. Crazy, you'll the defense events going to the guy who's covering Alvin Kamara. So like, this is not as great of a situation as seems row are you going to be sewn blitzing, and you're still going to be sending your four down linemen because that lessons ability to be creative. Incorporate twist and those take more time, but your schema to defeating that that saints tackling be very quick and can be very multiple and can be very high percentage is gonna be zone blitzes. So that doesn't know or pressures coming from at the snap. And so you guys dropping into zones. They don't expect that be number one. Number two. We talked about Cincinnati trapping the slot option route the slop route Philadelphia a lot of cover three cloud against the Cowboys. I think something likely to see again when we say cover three cloud. What we talking about cover three is typically this idea, there's a. Deep middle of the field safety, and then you're to outside corners also have deep third responsibilities. So if you read the deep thirds, it would go corner safety corner from left to right that's cover three sky. You've got one safety. He's that deep middle defender cover. Three cloud is an adjustment where the zone to the same but different players get into them. And it allows you to disguise your cover. Three. Look at the snap to making more difficult for quarterbacks to read if you're middle of the field will be open or middle of to be close. And by rotating, those players you can kind of introduced trap ideas. So what is cover three cloud instead of having that one deep safety? Take the center field the deep third in the middle of the field. You have to deep safeties at the snap. They'll both shift either to the left of to the right one. We'll take the outlets the shift to the offenses left than one takes that left. Deep third. The other one takes the middle of the third and the corner to the offensive, right? Drops into the last deep third that frees up the other corner member in traditional cover three both corners dropping that other corner. Can now play the flat zone the underneath flat, which has to be covered in cover three. The typically would be covered by a linebacker by slot corner. Traditional covers three so you're getting a cover three look on the back end but one year corners, this offense was left side were saying, this example gets to stay down in the field on the flat. And that gives me opportunity to read because he's covered behind him deep zone. Deep third is covered. Behind him gets the opportunity to play with a lot of freedom in that flat zone. So if you're expecting a slot option routes, the offense is left hand side, and you call cover three cover three cloud. You can drop that corner into the flat in a way that perhaps if you disguise the coverage. Well, enough, breezy, Michael Thomas won't expect. This is how similar to how you saw Cincinnati traffic since I did a little bit differently. But what we saw Philadelphia's defense in recent weeks leads me to believe that. That's how you could pull off that trap. What you will not see I think at all is the inverted Tampa to that. They also use to try to track the middle of the field because while the saints throat a good deal into the middle of the field. It sipped. Not in the intermediate area that that zone would affect a love that breakdown. Very nice. Ben, Ben one thing that I wanted to focus on before we in this show is the saints read some concepts. Have you seen a red zone offense? That's does more things than the saints right now because I wrote it up for bleeding green nation dot com. And what you see is not only do you have all the fun stuff. Like, they'll throw the this into the to Michael Tom is where they got two guys. It's the same concept of shield Ord. Yes, shield dirt. Is this shield concept that the eagles scored on the giants with with Ron Geoffrey you got two guys block in for the screen and behind him. They use motion. Whether it is it's fun. They use the the biggest thing for me is the fact that Jim Schwartz is going to have to prepare. We've already alluded to him. But for Tyson hill tastes hill inside of the red zone. It's not just one concept with him. I think people aren't don't realize how many different concepts they have with him. So they've got the read option they'll they'll run duo with they'll run Huby power. With them. They'll run straight outside zone with just tastes hill. Taking a direct snap. They'll put him wide out. The have drew Brees is a wide receiver. They'll put taste some hill in tight doubles in have him block safeties. They'll do all of these different things with him and last week against the Cincinnati Bengals they threw in yet another wrinkle, and they threw in a deal where like Huby lead. And he ends up throwing jump pass. In just missed tight end Benjamin Watson on it. So there's so many different things when tastes hills in the game. And he's just capable enough as a quarterback as thrower that you really have to respect that aspect of his game. Because every week is like they threw something in new Ben against the New York Giants in the red zone. They threw a screen to taste hill. Like there's much that you have to prepare for it. And you throw that in with with the stuff that we already talked about the 'isolation routes to Michael Thomas and Kamara as a runner, and then they'll throw in stuff that'll that'll mess with a secondary. With the eagles that is going to experience communication breakdowns because they're not used to working with each other. Of probably the first time the really working with each other as starters, and they throw in all this which released from from tight sets in even put an article one concept was called us. Skinner return bursts were they intersect each other a couple of times throughout the initial route stem, and they play against rules and banjo coverage and could be really confusing for defense to deal with. And there's elite talent there too. There's so many different things that they can do to you. And it's just Jim Schwartz for me. He should show up to this game gigantic bags under his eyes. Because he's gotta be watching. There's so much to digest with his team and a game plan for and then trying to communicate that and have your team ready for it. When you're secondary is include Jane chain in Sullivan, and trae Sullivan and bless old. But Corey Graham, how do you how do you deal with that? So Ben what did you see from the red zone offensive? If I missed anything because again there there's frigging much. So this is this is this is the. Point. I don't know if you remember those a clip that went around last year and it was of the New England Patriots offense. She me it was of the noon patriots defense in a red zone situation where they were lined up with certain personnel. And it was a personnel all year that they had blitzed out of CASA like sent six and they're winning game. By like, a blonde she was late in the game and Belgian put that personnel on the field and dropped everybody in garbage and Tina very easily scored ran like screen in picked it up. And it didn't matter the app in the game at all. But the clip was shown to say bell, check out here, breaking tendency and Brigham Tennessee has become this big thing. Love more kosher paying attention to. It's not like they're never were. But it's like within a lettuce now. It's huge thing. Whereas if you typically run the same look out of the same personnel, for example, Philadelphia on third and shores running blitz cover zero with man coverage which something that you've complained about. And I'm starting to get on the horse complaining. About with these Rimac flat routes yet in a game in which there is little consequence regarding the result of the play by the way, is what I like is as I've been working on that for. That's my voice for literally everybody. Okay. Let's not let's not act like I worked on here where you nailed it bump rowdy continue. If you are in a game play without consequence. You can count out that personnel. That has a very strong tendency to it and run a play call outside of tendency and dilutes the numbers. So when teams look back, and they say oh out of twelve personnel. The goal line. You know, they ran the ball seventy five percent of the time. Well, if you get four passing plays in there, you're really not in the red zone that often you know, what I mean, you can get that number down to sixty percent right out of sixty five anything helps and you're at the point out the correlations strong. The defense can be as prepared this anecdote goes to show the most valuable thing about tastes hill who I hate and resent a great deal as that he breaks tendency. Yup. There is he he brings. He is good athlete. He. Brings nothing in terms of passing running or receiving that they don't have from other players. He brings no skill to the table beside his multiplicity, which is also like greatly exaggerated. Like, he's not like the which is being slightly athletic and slightly accurate. Just by Pronin numbers. She's actually pretty athletic. He's a good athlete. But with matter healing won't you're you're talking about him as a runner if we compare that to like running backs. That's he NFL. He does not have NFL level passing ability NFL level running ability or NFL receiving ability because he has all three to a similar degree NFL level multiplicity. And because the problem is so difficult to get eight tag on the to get tendencies on the the saints red zone offense because they put tastes inhale in there. And they do though whacky ist I have ever seen right? She's like with the. Like fit the three quarterback set at one point or something that brief water in there, for God's sakes. What how do you? I have no idea how to chart I don't know what that means for language. It's the you can't get a paying what they're gonna do. Right. So you end the red zone, and you're on your heels because you're standing there with your little personnel cards. Get your guy charting on the sideline. Get ready. Like either twelve I now, and they send out three quarterbacks and the quarterbacks probably a tight end, actually. So what is he what are you say? What are they gonna do? You could be emptied. The be heavy you've no clue what like you run your base goal line defense, and you get beat and then and then Ben while you're trying to figure this out while they're coming out of the huddle. Drew Brees sees that. You're slack trying to figure out and then they quick snap. They have three touchdowns this year off quick snaps even do stuff where they like they'll have they'll come out five wide and Comoro will like lays Lee motion like he is going to be like running back lineup to the left while the defense is communicating on their heels. Boom. You saw it against the Vikings touch pass and touchdown. Like, you have to be prepared as they break the huddle for all of this wacky stuff. It's insane to me. So Ben I had I had multiple moments where I was charting the Rams offense Rob's kinda like screw this more than when they came out on the first play Cincinnati on whom they would eventually hang fifty one points and they ran split zone. Yeah. With tesa hill as the age back who was blocking right? How dare you? It's the first thing gave him. Gotcha. Like that. Is that plays like one Jillian percent? Like we're going to open with this play. This is the first play of the script put he has to do what if we start with two quarterbacks, but we have one block like, are you kidding? I was offended. So with all of that in mind in the pain in the butt that dealing with this. Saints offense is going to be you hope they get to wacky for their own good, and they leak some some points in some efficiency that way. But you look at this line. It's at fifty six and a half over under. They're expecting a shootout here. The eagles. I'm looking at no free ads but the site on looking at has the eagles at at eight and a half point dog. So they're still a little bit late to react to the trends is at nine. Now, you said from what you were looking at. Yeah. Last number. I saw for action network, which is how I track lines had midnight. I'll check right now. I'm gonna just do some quick math on that Nicole thirty to twenty four is what Vegas is roughly say. Saying it is it's close enough Ben over under thirty two points for this New Orleans Saints offense in the dome, and I've no idea how they thought like I said like fires homes, you're looking at by really don't know looking at where lesson like obviously here. So here's here's a question. Actually, I meant to ask early on. I forgot that. I'm very excited to hear your thoughts. So Sidney Jones is back hypothetical. He's playing in the slot. You need an outside corner. You'd like for Cindy to eventually be able to give you outside corner wraps you'd like to have that versatility. So you think about maybe playing him for his first time outside corner listened Thomas lines of the slot affair bit. So he won't always get Thomas. Okay. Whatever you have no jail mills. So you only other corners residual Avante Matic's and Chan's old in do you consider having Cinna Jones MIR Michael Thomas? None of your other corners have a chance against none of Sydney's with a chance in this is Amy and can't if you're gonna play sitting on the outside. He's gonna see Thomas anyway, he's better in the slot. Right now Thomas is going to go into the slot. It would be super fascinating to me if Sydney did well in that position. And I'm talking and talking of good game for Sydney in that position is like thirteen targets. Eight catches seventy five yards at you could even give up a touchdown. We'd be like yo Sydney kinda held up. Pretty well in that situation. Michael Thomas, so we talked about being insane this year. You know what I mean? No, absolutely. It's it's to me. It's just the sense of like if you want to communicate to the team that you are still doing everything you can to win you probably like, your Bella your best bet at corner is it maybe maybe you wanna play Maddox automates in the slot and Sydney when he's outside. I mean, well, I mean, you could you could do what they did against the New York Giants where they. Were they had a lot of cone bracket on them. No matter where he was no matter where he is on the field. You put Maddox over top. And on the inside. See? I firmly disagree with rocketing. Michael Thomas on tell you exactly why hit me with it. Because core Corey Graham. Trae Sullivan are gonna get burned on a double move and have nobody to tackle them. No, not Corey Graham, not bracketing Corey Graham, we can't bracket with Jenkins and you have choreographed trae solve any other safeties. We will put big of Maddox back there as your free safety again and bracket with Sidney Jones and Maddox with two three inches on both of them. Here's what I think is a terrible idea. Tell me the thinking any of our or ideas are going to stop Michael Thomas. This is this is, but this is like this has what has been happening in the building festivals. Eilly? What we right got. So. Yeah, I thought about Bracken him. But the number one you're pretty much force yourself in a man coverage. Elsewhere, which means either Brad Jenkins on Kamara all the time, which is going to be the only thing that scares me about that is more. It's not like they have. Like a deep, but like I like Drake once again, but he's a rookie third run rookie. I get that you can add those resources to Michael Thomas Germain issue than Kamara. Or do you take like the New England Patriots of approach to stopping the Rams knowing that the offense really does through the run game into the past game through Elvin chimera. Do you dump your resources there? And I don't know put put boobs shazier siege. Change deep coverage that way, not necessarily a bracket towards Michael Thomas aside, like it would that be more effective trying to take Kamara out of the game. I and just being more preventative against Thomas when trae Kwan Smith Barry's a trick wants. Frisking way. Trae clump Smith, Barry's just absolutely berries Channon Sullivan for like five catches one hundred sixty yards in two touchdowns. Right. Ninety yards of which came onto go routes. We're gonna look back. There was no fricken answer. Right. And this is why the saints wanted the Dez Bryant so badly because obviously I think Smith has been playing. Well, I think he's okay. He's obviously he's never had a game with more than three receptions. I acknowledged that. But I think like on tape. Smith's Elissa good deep threat. He's not gonna have a game where he's going to have a better opportunity for targets in this game. They need him to become wide receiver to so. Yes, I am putting money on the trade wants with breakout game. But the moral of the story is do a bunch of different things run. Some some, you know, cover three cloud run some coverages break tendency that look weird and get fortunate on they plays turnovers. Like, we talked about that's what it's gotta be. If you come out with your eight-man of the box cover three cover one that you liked to play all the time. They're going. Degrees is going to throw for four hundred fifty yards. Thank that. Like, it will be a bloodbath. We do not have the personnel to do that right now. Ben, I think that covers covers our feelings on the matter. Joy and hope you get lucky and make plays when they're if there's a fumble on the ground. You have to get it. And you how are you have to make big plays when we're gonna look back on this game? Which will be won by the eagles, forty eight forty five and call it. The Carson Wentz breakout game. This was the game that we all to take over the league. 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BGN Radio #42: Taking Stock of Free Agency

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BGN Radio #42: Taking Stock of Free Agency

"You're listening to BT and radio. Why would you listen to any other eagles test with John Stolnis in randomly gal? Hello, bleeding, green nation and welcome back to BGN radio. This is episode number forty two. I'm John Stolnis from bleeding green nation dot com. You can follow me on Twitter at John Stolnis. You know, we are still in the middle of the free agency period and things of died down. We're now into the second wave of regency. But that doesn't mean there aren't a lot of things to talk about the eagles had another busy week since we spoke last. However, they are still woefully short at one particular position. We'll get into that will take a look at some of the draft prospects that are coming into Philadelphia for a visit with team officials Vegas's out with some of their early odds for Super Bowl Super Bowl contenders. And the eagles make an interesting proposal having to do with the Cowboys and thanksgiving, so we're gonna get into all of that here over the next hour or so and joining me to do that as he does every week. Is the man who runs bleeding green nation dot com may he forever reign Brandon Lee gallon. You can follow him on Twitter at Brandon gallon Biel g how you doing buddy. John terrible news for you. I know now see that's that is no way to start off a podcast. I have like I mean, how would you like walked tell me the terrible news. Tell me the terrible news. I'm going to be playing running back for the goes this year. I mean, someone they called me up, and it's not going to be pretty I'm six foot nine that's just way too tall running back. Even if that didn't matter I'm just not very fast at all. So it's it's not going to be good for the eagles this year. Too tall to be running back to tall to be a defensive end really tall to play football b l g I mean there on the field. You can be six foot nine and be successful thing. I could be like a red zone tight end specialists kind of deal. Okay. Okay. Walk it all, but you know, I I think I could get a jump ball at some point. That's probably about it. Well, we are going to get into the running back situation here and just minutes because. They might be calling you at some point. If they don't get this position addressed here either through trade or free agency or with the draft coming up here. We'll get into all that coming up because that is a big topic of concern among eagles fans, but we're going to start off episode forty two year with some of the moves the eagles did make this week. And we'll take them in chronological order starting with the most recent. And that of course is the eagles announcing that they are bringing back Vinnie carry to a one year deal worth two and a quarter million dollars. It could go up to three and a half million dollars with incentives. The thirty year old was with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers last year after spending the first six years of his career with the hometown eagles grew up in eagles fan as you all well know was part of the Super Bowl championship team at twenty two sex in six seasons with the eagles. And last year for Tampa B L G kind of down year for him started seven games had just two and a half sacks fifteen solo tackles, but was dealing with an injury for much of the season. I don't know. I know this has been talked about us once free agency started that. It was likely that Tampa would release Vinny curry and that if that happened the eagles would swoop in and swoop in they did. So what grade do you give the Vinny curry signing? What do you think about it? So I guess I'm going to like a B follow be makes about sense for him. Maybe even a little low, maybe be plus I think it's a solid move. They needed more depth at defensive end after trading Michael Bennett and with the Chris long situation up in the air. And really that's kinda maybe it's funny. Maybe not everyone. But for me, at least that's kind of what I think about the most when I think about this resigning. I'm not even thinking about Vinnie so much. I'm thinking about okay? What happens now with Chris Law as we've talked about here has been very specific about how he's going to be watching the defensive end room, and how crowded a gets to make his decision on if he wants to come back or not. And I've kinda felt like that. You'll weren't gonna resign. Vinny curry not because they wouldn't be interested in him as much as just like they were kind of leaving that spot open. For Chris long. That was my thinking. Now, I don't think signing even carry definitely means Chris long won't be back. But you know, my thinking before is that spot was being saved for him. And now, it's not so much. So I don't know a hundred this don't know for sure where that stands I would love to have Chris back. But while we kinda just wait on that one. 'cause they're still, you know, they pushed one of the things in his contract back think till after the draft allows the eagles to to go forward to not have to make that commitment right now. So we'll see how the Chris long thinks shakes out in short. But for now I like with eagles kinda have shaping up here defensive end. I mean, you have Brannon Graham Derek Burnett as you're likely starters in two thousand nineteen those were your stars for the most part in two thousand eighteen prior to darker Burnett getting hurt Vinny curry imagine, you know, is going to have a significant role at third or fourth defensive in off the bench. And I think that's good. I think Vinny curry had an underrated season in two thousand seventeen if you look back at it. It was his best overall career by in terms of you know, how? Football focus graded him out in you know, take that for what it's worth. But you know, you look at him in their rankings ranked tenth overall in run stop percentage in that kind of masses up with the test to member Vinny. Curry can always had that like a bad rap as a head run defender. Yeah. Like really changed in two thousand seventeen. I remember there's a player to a game where he would dislike someone try to run to the edge running back try to run out to the ED's in many this. They're like stop them in their tracks. I almost feel like he became a better run defender than a pass rusher. At that point which is weird because it used to be the opposite for him earlier on his career, but even in two thousand seventeen he still ranked thirty fifth out of a hundred nine teen edge rushers in pressure rate. So, you know, you look at those numbers in two thousand seventeen in there, really good. And he's coming back to this system. He's no longer playing in Tampa Bay defense that allowed the most points in the league last year, and he's also not going to be dealing with the injury. Hopefully now is a little bit older. I don't know if he's giving you the time of production. Xactly that you got from him in two thousand seventeen by think he's going to be closer to that than he was when he was struggling with the buccaneers last year. Look, you're only paying two point five million for this guy. If you look at the other contracts or addresses out there guys who got more than him like Marcus golden, no signed for one year three point seven five million with the giants. You know, you look at shack bear one year four million with the buccaneers Bruce Irvin. Who's thirty one a little bit older than Vinnie signed one year four million dollars with the with the Panthers. So like that's pretty good value. The reports are that buzney turned down offers for more money with other teams come back to Philly. And I think that's true. I mean, he's obviously needles fan. We already know that story by now. And he just genuinely sounded like he's thrilled to be back. I was listening to him today on the conference call and he just said like these guys are his brothers his teammates. Like, they're not just sense about football for him. Like, these are these are his best friends. So he's back. I think it makes sense for the eagles. You know? It's not like a home run move by any means by it's. Real solid move. I agree with that. And I think Vinny curry we heard was dealing with a high ankle sprain for much of last year. And that was one of the reasons why maybe he wasn't as productive. He was also playing in a different scheme, and maybe a scheme that didn't utilize him and to the best of his abilities. And now he comes back to Philadelphia in a scheme where we know especially in two thousand seventeen like you mentioned that he flourished, and we talk about Vinnie carry being being older. Thirty years old is is not ancient. I mean, he's younger than Michael Bennett who the team traded away Bennett was a far more productive player than Vinny. Curry was last year, obviously. And but I mean, I don't know that Bennett is necessarily going to have the same kind of season in two thousand nineteen given his age when you're talking about Chris long, Chris long is substantially older by at least a couple of years over Vinny curry, and I think that is you're right. That is one of the more interesting aspects of this signing is what it means for Chris long's career, and we know that he's been contemplating retirement and one of the things that has been. A major consideration for him as to whether or not to come back to Philadelphia is playing time how many snaps is he gonna get what percentage of snaps is going to be there for him with Brandon Graham coming back in with Derek Barnett, hopefully, healthy and ready to rock and roll and with any curry there, and you know, you're going to hopefully, get something out of maybe get some more playing time for Josh sweat this year because you spent a fourth-round or on him last season. Are we getting to a point here where the eagles? I know there's been a lot of Chris criticism. They're getting you know, they're old on the defensive line. But if you don't bring back Chris long, and you don't bring back Michael Bennett. You're actually seems to me getting younger along defensive line. So, you know, I'm not I'm not sure that I see exactly where Chris long fits on this defensive line right now. Because I don't think he's going to get the percentage of snaps. It is going to make him happy Bilgee. I hate that. That's a bummer because I think Chris long still really good player. And it almost makes me wonder if they would trade him at that point. Because I think he's still wants to play. Dist listening him in his interviews and really looking at his body of work last year. I don't think this is a guy that needs to retire. I think he's still wants to play. And maybe he does retire because he feels like, okay, I'm not gonna go through the whole thing of the making them trade me into all of that. And he's gonna retire. Maybe that's the case. But maybe he's gonna try to force the issue if he can if it makes sense if the can of get something back in return for him. And so I wonder if that's almost on the table now whether that you'll trade him or whether he retires they would save five point three million cap space. So that's kind of upside to not having Chris long Dak I'd rather have him back than the space to saying. That's the bonus you get in another thing, by the way to keep in mind. Vinny curry in why it's a big deal significant factor in signing him that he doesn't count towards their against their compact. I should say so since the the bucket cut him such just another another factor to the move kinda makes an extra bonus. But yeah, I don't know it's gonna happen here with. Was Chris long? I think bottom line, though, is with whatever happens out like still feel pretty good about this defensive line room. Like, don't you like you have yet wonder best in the NFL one of the best in the NFL? And I think it has a chance to be the best in the NFL because one of the other things we haven't talked about g is what if they spend their first round pick on an edge rusher. What if they spend one of their second round on an edge rusher that leaves even less playing time for Chris long? But probably makes it a stronger defensive unit. That's the other thing too. And that's probably why again, they push that deadline back after the Chaffetz. So they song to have what the deal is there. So we'll see how that goes. But yeah, I mean, even the is they have right now, let's say they don't even at anyone. And let's say Chris long isn't back like that. That would be the worst case scenario. So you have Brandon Graham endured Burnett. I'm really cited have BT back, man. Like, he's gonna be healthy this year. He was clearly not healthy last year off season surgery in may which is late for off-season surgery on his ankle. He didn't come into the season. He's ready to get after this year. Kinda get back to the level. He was before he was last year. Derek is going to be in his third year. He still only twenty two I think he's pretty young man. I know Benjamin his the biggest fan, but I think we saw some growth at a Derek Burnett last year before he got hurt. I think him being another year older in having more experience as we'll see him potentially take that step forward. Vinny. Curry is you know, what you're getting out of him probably in the scheme. He's going to be a solid player for this team. Josh wet. I think bringing back many curry is probably not a good move for him. Not only because he's probably going to be losing his jersey number seventy five. I just don't think he kinda showed enough in the I kind of go back to the fact that they were so thin offensive ended wins last year. Like Bennett was hurt. Guys were banged up. They're only down to three or so defensive ends and jobs loves to rotate is guys. Ideally, he has like four defensive in playing significant snaps, but even then they still didn't really trust Josh wet. And then he got hurt which is another issue with him. But you look at a guy like DeJean hall who they acquired late in the season. Any like barely played the only play like nano twenty five thirty snaps or so, but like he showed me a little bit of juice in those snaps the end small sample size. Not even a lactate the roster but using a former third round pick. I think that can do that sixteen. So I'm interested to see him the new the coaching staff praising Joe Oestmann this year in again, maybe that's nothing. Maybe nothing more than a practice squad player. But the point is like they have some guys that even beyond the starters. Like, there's still some intrigue with some of these guys, and I feel like shifting your attention a little bit and looking at not just the ends. But the way they can. Move there guys around Vinny. You can put him on the interior on third down in have him rush from there. And as point you know, distinct that makes the pass rush better to have a guy like that in any brand Balik Jackson, and you're upgrading your pass rushers in total. So, you know, even song doesn't come back. I would love to have him back. But even if he doesn't and even if you don't yet atop pass rusher in the draft, which they bury much Ken possibly. I just still think they have a really good unit here to work with y'all. I agree. I agree. I think it's gonna be a very good unit. That's one of the reasons that Jackson wanted to come to Philadelphia wanted to be a part of a a great defensive line because you know, he enough let your Cox in the middle is just gonna make those ends even better. So yeah, no doubt about it. I think eagles have top five defensive line heading into next season on paper. Anyway, one of the other moves the eagles made this week was to sign safety Andrews day ho and one of the things I've noticed with all of the signings this week B L G, and we'll get to that with the third signing in just a second is that they really seem to be targeting guys who had good two thousand. Seventeen and dropped off in two thousand eighteen because of injury and Syndey ho was certainly one of those guys so one year deal for the thirty two year old primarily run stopping safety at this point in his career. He's going to serve as the team's number three behind Malcolm Jenkins and Rodney McLeod Beal g the most important thing. He does he gives them a real depth piece. I mean, you're not going to have to deal with with Corey Graham anymore to not have to have him on the field. No matter what no matter what Syndey Hogue gives you as far as I know, he's not the strongest guy in pass coverage. But gotta be better than Corey Graham. Right. I mean anything's better than Corey Graham. Yes, I think he'll know where to be informed fifteen hopefully with the game on the line time. I would I would hope at the very least sorry to bring that up for everyone. But yeah. With the signing just the medically like this is what how Roseman does he fill the holes on the team before the draft comes up the eagles needed some kind of third safety, and they can still add one in the draft. If they want to. You don't wanna go into draft like having to get that guy. And if you don't get him then oh, well, you're locked late. So I think that's what you do Sunday. And I've just felt like the safety market had two guys on it. Like, so many safeties got onto the market this season some unexpectedly to where it just felt like too many veterans out there for the not to bring in a third guy at some point. And the got that guy in Sunday. How I don't know even if he's fully guaranteed to make the team again, they could draft a rookie. Maybe someone beats tensely the contract is reportedly for one point three million. I don't I'm not sure how much of that is guaranteed. If any will see I think solid signing again, it's you have to consider that. We don't know a hundred percent Friday McLeod will be ready for the start of the season. Like, I think there would be because he suffered a C L slash MC. L back in September still is only week three. So I think he is a good chance to be ready for week one. But maybe he misses a game to the desiccation. You can kinda put Sunday in their in have him. Hold down the fort for a little bit until. Musab tensely ready to get back. So I think that's the idea. I think the fact that they've had safety injuries past couple years. You know, they're trying to stress adding more depth at that position. And I think Cindy how gives them the flexibility they want to play they want to be able to do in terms of playing these sub packages such as the big nickel or their dime package. So it makes sense in that vein. And again, it doesn't really rule out them drafting a safety as high as the first round if they went into on sudden, four quality safety. So I just think, you know, it makes sense counts against their compact formula for now. But I don't think it's a huge deal. I think they can sensually still get four complex depending on who else signs elsewhere or again, if like Sunday ho struggles, or whatever they can cut him in he wouldn't count against the formula that point anymore. So we'll see how he does this off season. He just needs proving stay healthy. If does healthy does make this team. Like he is gonna knock the crap at a someone. He got crab knocked him by blood and don't think about that. But I mean, that's not him even sucking. That's a large, you know, that's in large part delegate plant being like two hundred fifty pound running back who's a beast. Right. Yeah. I think Sunday was gonna like seriously just not it might be eagles player. So that might be frustrating, by the way, just literate someone like I dunno Nigel, Adam he's he's gonna not the crap at someone this year. I don't know if it'll be an eagles player of the be an offensive player, but someone is gonna get hit art. Yeah. He played in just five games last year suffered a season ending groin injury against the eagles. But was graded forty fifth out of one hundred and one safeties last year by PF, but in two thousand seventeen was twentieth. Overall, according to PF grades. So again, a massive upgrade over Corey Graham, no matter how you shake it down. And then the last signing the eagles made this week was they re signed Ronald Darby to a one year eight and a half million dollar deal. He went out on the open market. Beal GD eagles lead. Them test free agency, he visited Kansas City. I usually think that when a player goes to visit another city, there's a really good chance. They're gonna sign there. But ultimately, he decided to come back to Philadelphia. Are you surprised that the eagles were able to get him back on a one year deal? Gee, I I'm not shocked. You know, I think we've been talking about we've been hearing some buzz that the really wanted him back around even said that in his interview with Ian, Rappaport said the US really wanted to keep him. And sure enough they did because they made him a pretty okay offer wasn't really great in the scope of going into free agency. There was talk that he was going to get like twelve million per year. Spot rack rejected. He could get like fifteen million or thirteen million something crazy. Of course that was considering injury. So to take that for what it's worth there. But yeah, I mean, he went on the visit in Kansas City. And there was some kind of buzz out there from some kind of radio hosts that he failed his physical which explains why he didn't sign with the villa at. Yeah thing and then it was so bizarre. I think. Was last Friday morning or last Thursday night that Antwan Odom who is former NFL defense alignment like randomly tweeted yoyos announce the Ronald Darby contract one year, eight point five million. And it was just like so out of the blue. It's like is this guy like the breaking news right now. So I wrote a story on that. And it was so it was so weird. Is that Aleph? Yeah, blues. Right. He had the exact the money money. I don't know if like they share agent that used to be agent or what I don't know. I don't see what allowed to action as they are. But anyway, so Antwan Odom forgetting that big scoop, and yeah, it's it's an interesting deal. Right. Because it's one year. It's only eight point tops out at eight point five. I think really it's only six point five in two million in incentives. So that's really interesting. You know, round RB was arguably the top cornerback on the market now the injury, obviously, her im-, but still he's only twenty five I think it's an interesting signing because I think it's probably the most controversial move eagles have. This off other than possibly the Michael Bennett trade, I think in terms of being the vice of a lot of people are kinda like why are we being around Darby back because the defense had success without him late last year, and we already have so many young corners. And I see that logic. I get it. That's how you feel. I'm not gonna begrudge you for feeling that way at the same time. I guess if I'm putting myself like if I'm putting myself in their shoes in seeing their perspective on this mound. Rby a twenty five year old talent, they traded a third round pick for in two thousand seventeen the you know, this guy they have some modest or some decent level of confidence in. I think either most physically gifted corner feel like from a raw talent perspective, he's their fastest Horner back when he's healthy. Clearly, I think he's had some games where you see him struggle in terms of mistake Ling or getting beat the titans game the buccaneers game from last year there, certainly some issues, but I also think back to a game like week one last year against will you Jones where if you. Look at Julio Jones numbers. It's not super pretty. But like if you go back on the film, he pretty much like kept him in the I think they don't win that game round Rb isn't going. So right. You know, we've seen him have that kind of number one quarterback potential there. And my guess that they're thinking is that they quarterback is not a position for them. They can easily just figure out right? It's not like, yeah. We've got this. No. That is not the case for the for very long time now. So I'm kind of thinking they're just trying to throw as much as they reasonably can at that position. And when you have the chance to bring Darby back at a pretty decent value. I think it makes sense to do that. And I think you kinda just figure it out. You have I don't know who the hell is starting at corner this year because you have round Rb you have Dylan mills you have avanti's of Sidney Jones you have received Douglas, you have on the bunk. There's so many options there, but I guess that's a bad thing. I think they're just gonna try to throw a bunch of stuff at that position in see what? Shakes out. And I don't think that's the worst approach given how they've really struggled to kinda find stability pointer over the years. Dennis specially how they how they value that position in this offense to its defensive line and its Cornerbacks and safeties man, I mean, that's that's why they're not doing a whole lot with linebacker. I mean, they're going to stick. It a lock in on those two areas of the defense. So yeah, I understand bringing Darby back and giving yourself as much depth at that position. As you can I'd like to see this group next year. Get a few more picks few more turnovers more interceptions here and there, but hopefully that comes a little bit more experience from some of the younger guys as well. The one thing I have noticed here. Belgian it's one of the things the eagles have in some circles been criticized for is are they sending too many older players here b l g I mean, we bring with curry and wisened day. Oh, and not so much with Darby Darby is like you mentioned still in his mid twenties. But the eagles bring it back, Brandon Graham. I mean, they've just they have invested in. Some players who are on the wrong side of thirty. What is your take on on the the thought that they're signing too many old players because for me, I see them signing old players. But I don't see a lot of long commitment to the old players that they're bringing in our Joe Gilio on the podcasts on the sudden. How did you replace? No. I'm saying I think questions out there. And he's one of the people that have asked that question for sure. Yeah. It's fair. I'm just kidding. I liked to. But he brought up that point. And I mean, it's fair in the sense that like, yeah, it's true. They're bringing in order guys. Is it really that abnormal? I don't think so look back to two thousand seventeen when they brought in Chris long and Patrick Robinson and Corey Graham and legare blunt and even during the season, they brought in L O B, those are all very much older guys. And they're building the core around these guys like they're not saying this is the core of the team. That's not what they're doing here. I think these are very much supplemental pieces, I write these are very much players who have proof. Even the instill play for the most part like Sean Jackson's gonna turn thirty three this year. Yeah. But guess what? He led the league in yards reception less season. So I'm not gonna choir him, just because of a number of his age that doesn't make sense. You know, you you have to look more into the age. Now, I get in theory. Like, you always wanna get younger. Yeah. And that's nice Zack Berman had a point out there. I'm really just shopping names, by the way in this pot down. Again. I don't nothing in fact, but you know, he made a fair point in that he said you could look at guys like Raanan, cloud and Brandon Brooks as ease of pieces you could be building around freezing. I don't think there's a fair example because the signings happened back in two thousand sixteen when heels had a lot more cap space to work with and they also didn't have a franchise quarterback contact looming on the horizon right now or the us are not signing those kind of core pieces there because they need to play the compet game in they draft picks because those are more valuable than ever especially because that's the way. You get young talent. And that's how you fit all in with your cap space. You need to be able to hit on these draft picks Kansas rely on building through free agency. Like that now for all the criticism that they're getting older who did people want them to sign out there that was younger. I don't understand you know, who the alternatives where were here, especially if you're signing. These guys are gonna be more expensively. That's just how it works part of the market inefficiency. If you will I think, or at least, I think, that's how the eagles view. It is you're getting these older guys. Yeah. But they're cheaper. I mean again, Vinny curry two point five million dollars. I think that's good value as opposed to what did you want them to do go out and signs Darius Smith or Trey flowers to like eighteen million a year, whatever they got. No, like, they don't have the cap space to reasonably do that mean if they really wanted to do it they could than they're they're being hamstrung elsewhere. So I think it's fine. I think in general again, you always wanna get younger. I think what this signifies in with all these older resigning is that you'll really see a window. To win this year into nineteen like they see that interesting that in the contracts, by the way to how they're like spreading all these cap hits out over the years like they're trying to lower this year's cap it as much as they can because they're willing to sacrifice a little bit in the future for this year. I think that's how they view it. I think that's why they're also bring in these older guys like, and I think that's fair this team that won the Super Bowl two years ago s we forget they see themselves in a position where they can win this year. I think that's how they should feel. Why not they were such a great team do dozen seventeen. They have the best quarterback in the division the best head coach in the division. You have reason to feel good about this team contending feel like so why not put all your chips into the middle? While you feel like you have this window. You wanna maximize it now as opposed to just I mean, you have to have some kind of I on the future that's any kind of general manager job. But I don't think they're sacrificing so much for the future that he can't balance that out with trying to win. Now, I making win that moves, and I think that's. Fine. We'll be coming up. We're going to take a look at the one position that the eagles really haven't addressed at all here. 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They've addressed wide receiver. They've addressed a little bit at offense on the offense of line bringing back Jason Peters. But the one position that they have not touched at all this season is the running back position. And it's one of the positions that we came into the offseason most interested in seeing the team in and so here, we sit on March twenty first and we're now into the second wave of free agency. And my question is why why haven't they addressed this position yet? I really wonder what it is. They're waiting for. There are some options out there as we've mentioned on previous podcast Spencer where TJ yelled in Jordan Howard do Johnson. Just some of the NFL players that are out there. You know? I wrote a piece this week for bleeding green Asian. About the possibility of the eagles taking Josh Jacobs in the first or second round in the history of the eagles drafting running backs in that position and the history of NFL teams taking running backs early in the draft. And you know, that's like every other position in the NFL. That's hit or miss in the draft. I'm just overall confused at what the eagles are accomplishing. You're running back because this to me is a position at it's a vitally important position on this team. They may not view it that way, but they need some some talent at running back in in order to help out. Carson Winston to help out the passing game. I mean, they're running under contract right now. Our when smollet Josh items done on free, Boston Stott. And who am I missing? It doesn't matter. It's not getting done. That's those are there five guys under contact right now. But I have to believe they understand this to like, it's not just us. I'm pretty sure, you know, they know they need to do something this position. And I almost feel like the delay in addressing this position. Hannah makes me feel like they have something planned. I don't know what it is. I look at the fact that Spencer ware left his visit with lions without a contract. So we could potentially still get him out of the fact that to die who visited the coats on Wednesday left his visit with colts without a contract. And again, you kind of look at what happened with Ronald Darby. He went to Kansas City visited didn't get a contract there. He came back couple of days later signed the Philly for pretty reasonable number. Maybe that'd be. Yeah. Can I make a prediction? They're bringing back. Jay, they're bring it. I I what's going down. Yep. I'm the way you get him back to the point of being willing to let someone visit another team the Darby is that lets you drive the price down because at that point. It ruins the player's leverage. Right. Because he can't the player. Can't be like, well, you know, I've other teams out there interested in me while the belly. Okay. Then why didn't the colts signed into a contract then? No. So they it gives us more leverage. So I'm trying to say when a player goes like that visits in they don't get a deal. So we saw Darby maybe it happens with Ajayi. But even if he resigned, I again, he's coming off a seal entry. So like you still need to do something there. Even if you bring him back like you might need. This item are resigned him end brand Spencer ware or something like that. Like you have to kind of throw some more options at that position. Still. And I think we will they're gonna do something in some kind of either trade or free agency. Do Johnson is still out there in rumors Adam capitalist talking about him this week on the radio when he was saying that there's a lot of interest there from one team in particular. He wouldn't say with team, but we all know Kaplan's pretty plugged in. When it comes to the eagles. So king connect the dots. There think it might be do Johnson, by the way, he said it would cost the fifth or sixth. So that's case op. Obviously be all over that. No doubt. Another tap one thing in what we're talking about the running back position apparently on their podcasts that they have him. Jeff Moster we're talking about how Josten gives is actually in play for the eagles pick at number twenty five like apparently they like him, and they said the to not be socked the took a running back which would be sacking to. They haven't done it in what thirty three thirty four years. Not since Keith Byars in night, young eighty six P L J. That's the last time. The eagles took a running back in the first round, man. So maybe that's in play to maybe I don't know. But we will all very much be interested to see what they do it. Just feels incomplete. You know what I mean? Like, you're looking at the offense, and you kinda wanna get fully excited about it. But it's hard because you're looking at the running that the center being like, oh, man like the is not over. They can still do stuff here. I'm not panicking. But it's just like, can you do something you can give us some kind of thing that kinda be at least excited about even irrationally at the like, you can't do that. Now. There's this nothing there. Now, there's that's true. And that's the thing is. Kind of thinking to ourselves. They got some options out there. You know? I do think I you know, the reason a giant makes more sense than Spencer ware or somebody like trading for Jordan Howard. Or I think trading for do Johnson makes all the sense in the world because he's a different type of player than a giant. And I think that would make the most sense you bring gybed on on a cheap one year deal. Again, another guy great two thousand seventeen who was hurt last year, and you can probably get him on a cheap one year prove at deal. So at the eagles did with Finney curry and with Syndey. Oh and with Ronald Darby this this off season. I think they can do that with a giant as well. Aja is a talented player, and you hope that Corey climent bounces back, and if you trade for Johnson, you've got your Darren sproles replacement, and so I think I think the eagle's even if I wouldn't feel one hundred percent confident in that in that group, I think the eagles would feel confident there, and I don't know enough about Josh Jacobs to say whether or not he should go number twenty five. I just know what I read what I read is that teams are all over the place. On him as to whether or not he's a first round talent. Or a second round talent in. I I can't say whether one is more right than the other. What I can say is the eagles have done enough in free agency that they don't have to reach for any particular position. And so if they really like Josh Jacobson, they know that he's not going to be there when they come around in the second round they've done enough in free agency. So that they can take a swing at Josh Jacobs at the running back position and not feel like they have to grab an address you're here or a defensive tackle or a safety or cornerback or anything like that. You know, that's one of the that's one of the good things about how they've approached free agency here so far this off season. So, you know, it's been they have not drafted a running back since Keith buyers in nineteen Eighty-six, and you know, the eagles history of drafting running backs has been hit or miss over the years, but they've been hit or miss at drafting every position. So as every other team the draft is a mystery. So, you know, Josh Jacobs's most likely the number one running back if you can get the number one running back off the board at number twenty five again, not having just. Seeing the little bit of tape on on on Jacobs that I've seen I probably would not hate that move. Because at least it would show me to they're wanting to add they're wanting to invest something significant at that position, which they haven't shown that they've wanted to do that in the last decade, really. And it's the kind gesture is the kind of profile of a player who would be okay in the first round in terms of value. This isn't a guy who is just like a two down player easier north-south runner. He doesn't catch the ball. Basically. I'm trying to sail Europe blunt. It doesn't profile as that who isn't gonna be your three down running back as a guy who can only help you in certain phases. Like, no Josh teams that versatility where you can help you in multiple phases as a runner as a pass catcher. So I think that's the kind of guy who would kind of profile more as guy there would be okay. With in the first round, the example that I believe most of us was that eagles were willing to take Christian McCaffrey at pick number fourteen. If you made it they're back in. Two thousand seventeen and again, that's the same kinda guy a guy who can help you as receiver. I mean, that's the that's the big thing. Really? Honestly, if you're looking at a running back that high can this guy catch passes because it has to the premium resources should be going into the passing game. And if that can help and look we saw that you will rumored to be interested in levian bell. Ultimately, it didn't materialize. But that doesn't mean it didn't have interest. It's probably meant that the money didn't work out. But I think, you know, you're looking at that kind of player that would be really nice to have for Carson Wentz as a guy who can kinda just check down to in have that option in the passing game as opposed to really getting nothing out of year running backs in the game. So I think that's kind of something keep an eye on. I think that's just feel destination running back. They're missing. So maybe you get that in Josh Jacobs. Maybe that in the Duke Johnson that I that's something that definitely need to add to the offense is a pass catching running back and one of the nice things that we did see from Corey Clement at the end of the season. I feel like we got to see. A little bit of two thousand seventeen Clement late in the season. Whatever was going on with him. Whether he was dealing with an injury or whether he was just not all there this year. Whatever it happened to be I feel like he kind of came back towards the very end of the season. And we got a he started. We started seeing the flashes of the guy who could break tackles a guy who could be productive down near the goal line. A guy could catch the ball out of the backfield. And hopefully, adding him to the mix this year, a rejuvenated or a comment that's not injured dealing with some kind of problems. Whatever was going on can also add to that would like be like adding running back, frankly because he really was a non factor for most of the season this year. So I will be interesting to see what the eagles running back. They do need to do something real quick before we get to our next break. Beal g let's take a look at some of the draft prospects that are coming in for a visit here this over the next couple of weeks, you've got Oklahoma offensive tackle, Cody Ford, ole miss wide receiver AJ Brown Arkansas guard says. Center held a fro- hall TCU defensive end Eljay Collier Old Dominion defensive end. Otane zimmer? Michigan running back. Karen, hidden, Florida safety Chauncey, garner Johnson, Alabama state offensive tackle Titus Howard, any of those names or actually probably more to the point any of those positions really jump out at you. And I also seem in just tonight bright before the show here. Penn State quarterback money over warrior, so on two three four five six seven eight nine nine of their thirty almost a third have already been reported out there you're seeing off into Lyman, obviously with Cody Ford Titus Howard. I definitely think that's still on their radar. Even though you bring Jason Peters back. You know, if there's a there's an offensive tackle that you really love at twenty five you're gonna take him. You know, it doesn't matter. You have Jordan my ladder or whatever. Like, you're gonna take that guy in you're gonna right? Just hope it works out and have a plan for him. It's Cody Ford if it doesn't work out down the road, you know, his move over to guard at some point. So I don't even know Cody. What makes it to them, by the way has very possible? He doesn't the AJ. Brown was interesting. The that guy played a lot slot receiver for ole miss. And as we know heels are already paying the most money the most amount of money to their starting receivers in the NFL, especially having snag lower there at nine point four million. We've talked about nauseam in the slot. So I won't really interesting to me. I mean, even if it's not moving on from Laura this year, which I mean, I feel like they almost would the Jaffna guy like AJ Brown is probably like than selects said to me. He was like top thirty third somewhere. Thirty to fifty in that range in terms of picks. So pennsly- a day to guy for the eagles. You would think they have some kind of plan for him. But even if not Adler is still gonna be next off season. So that's something to keep in mind. You're still seeing them look into address yours in Collier in Zuma's. So these are not surprising positions overall. They don't necessarily need immediate starters. Again. I think how was. For the -ception really running back has done a nice job of kind of filling those immediate host, but time to setting themselves up to hopefully, you know, just be able to pick the quote unquote, best player available. If that's available to them when it relates to twenty five in and whatever, you know, all these other picks they have on day two. So you can't make too much visits because sometimes they're at least Howie Roseman has said in the past uses them, sometimes smokescreens, but they're looking into these prospects. So in easily they draft at least like one or two of these guys from the top thirty they bring in. So it's certainly worth keeping an eye on those names in remembering them come draft time. But for now, it's kinda just cursory information. I will up next. We're gonna get into a proposal that was made by the eagles. That was quickly taken off the table that has to do with the Detroit Lions and Dallas Cowboys hosting thanksgiving games. Very interesting stuff here, and we'll also get into step with some Vegas odds for the Super Bowl coming up this year. We'll do that next right here on GM radio. Hi, this is Jim. Check out our podcast step over. We'll be blowers podcast work for all of your Sixers needs player analysis. Game breakdowns who the coolest a headband and more subscribed liberty Bowers podcast feed on I tunes, Stitcher Spotify or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball, mostly. And we're back on BG and radio. Gee, this was very interesting came down on Thursday proof football talk reported this that the eagles made a proposal to have the Detroit Lions Dallas Cowboys stop hosting every thanksgiving. And instead those two teams would have to play on the road on some thanksgiving. So alternate home in Rhode one year from the next and diga lls, however, then withdrew the the proposal presumably, according to pro football talk because it was not going to pass. But this is an interesting proposal, and it really kind of highlighted something that I never occurred to me before. And that is that the lions and the Cowboys really possess a huge advantage over the rest of the NFL in terms of playing Thursday night games on the road doesn't feel g manifested in Super Bowl wins for those teams to. Get the shots in where you can my man not recently. And in the case of lines, not at all. But seriously. Yeah, this is a I feel weird calling a major deal. But f it's significant I mean because if like one game any single game in the NFL season could have huge ramifications like any one single game looking back on a season. And this came up by the way, like I looked into this on Thursday night. And I see that since there's in football began in two thousand six Cowboys have played just to Thursday rogue games just to on the road and neither of them were on short rest because they played previously on thanksgiving the week before. So they're playing on Thursday night on the road. But they're having a whole week to prepare the normally would Freni given game now by comparison in the same amount of time. The eagles have played five Thursday night away games on short rest in that same spam. Lonzo euro for the Cowboys and five for the. Eagle. That's wasn't that. And by the way, not fair. It's not fair. That's that's only for now. There's no way because of the Cowboys are gonna keep getting home games like this. It's probably gonna keep working out whether or not the hallways are not going to be playing road Thursday night games for the considerable future in the you'll probably will. So it's just it's BS. It's Bs even if it doesn't matter a ton, which I think it matters somewhat like the NFL should be aiming to make this kind of fair as possible. That's what you should be expecting. This should be a level playing field here. Definitely goal. Right. We want right for as much as they want parody. Right. I mean as much as possible like I'm not saying like, it seems reasonable to me that it would be some kind of level blame it shouldn't be zero versus five if it's like two versus five. That's like, okay. That's whatever. But like zero five just seems a little extreme. And I feel like the NFL should be doing a better job. Like, why can't we rotate Dallas? In Detroit playing home in the way. Why can't we do that? I think it would be disgruntled to putting the rest thing aside for a second. When is just be nice to have other cities host thanksgiving games. Like every once in a while. It'd be kind of new dynamic for other cities to get in on that while eastern keep the tradition alive of Dallas in the the lines playing every year. It's not like they're saying you have to end the tradition. The thing that I wonder about here is Teri Joan son, Steven Jones is on the league's competition committee. So I'm sure he is not exactly sad that yields withdrew this. And I guess we can talk about why they withdrew it. Yeah. I don't know. I'm guessing they did this exact thing with the jersey proposal back a couple years ago when they were trying to get third helmet law. Yeah. Yeah. They also through that. I guess it's because like the kind of just get a feel for it like exit poll, I guess you kind of say, hey, even of shot the past and it's like, no, no shot in hill. And I guess it's kinda like they just withdraw at that point. Because there's not even any kind of traction on it like maybe can't get anyone to even say that that would be interested. But I don't know why teams wouldn't be interested in passing this because it's clearly an advantage like you can debate how much of an advantage it is. But it isn't events to some extent in it's this unnecessary. Like there shouldn't there's no good reason that this should be an unfair advantage for other teams that the Cowboys have over them in it just is. No. And you're right. I mean, it hasn't been the difference between the Cowboys winning Super Bowls in the lines winning Super Bowls in the rest of the ladies Super Bowls. It's just it's just not fair. I mean, generally speaking these games that are played on thanksgiving are generally one by the better team. The lions do not typically win their thanksgiving games. In in recent memory over the last ten. In fifteen years since they started doing thanksgiving games way back in the day. The lions of been bad more often than they've been good and hosting that game has necessarily been anything special for them. The Cowboys again to have have not one Super Bowl in a longtime. So you're right. This isn't this isn't the difference between going to the playoffs and not going to the playoffs. But maybe last year it was maybe last year the Cowboys. I don't remember what they did on thanks giving whether they won or they lost on thanksgiving. But you know, they, you know, maybe if they if they have to play a role game on Thursday, maybe they maybe they have one fewer wind than they did last year. And maybe the eagles do in the NFC east in that situation. You know, it ultimately probably wouldn't have mattered in the grand scheme of things as far as the playoffs and all that stuff went. But you're right. You kinda wanna make it even when on and when at all possible, and it's just not fair that that that lines and the Cowboys don't have to play any short week Thursday night games. It's just not the rest of the NFL should have been totally on board with what the eagles were pitching here. And. I don't know why they weren't able to get that support. But maybe it's just one of those things it's tabled, and they'll take it up next year or a couple of years or something. I don't know. But it sure I think it should be addressed one of the thing. Beal before we wrap up west gate sportsbook has posted some opening odds for this year's and if the NFL divisions in the eagles open the season or open the the book for this off season as even money to win the NFC east with the Cowboys and five to four is the Redskins at eight one. The giants sixteen to one incidentally, only the cardinals have lower odds to win their division in the NFC in the giants b l j just a couple of these other numbers, and then I just want you to tell me if any of these things jump out at you bears open up as the favourite in the central at eight to five with the Vikings and Packers both at two to one of the saints. Have the best odds in the NFC south at four will at Fourtou eleven with the falcons at five to one Panthers at six to one. And if see west you've got the Rams as heavy favorites. One to two with the Seahawks five to two in the forty nine or seven to one. Dolphins of the worst odds to win their division in the NFL at forty two one. The patriots obviously open up at at at the top there. And you got the Browns opening up as the favorites in the AFC north at seven to five slightly head of the Steelers and ravens and the colts and chiefs easy odds openers in the south and west any of those teams any of those odds, raise an eyebrow. For UBL g the you'll Disley. I feel like there's so much reason the bet on them this year. I really do. I think people are sleeping on Carson Wentz. Which by they totally sleeping on Carson Wentz. Yardley the are under estimating Carson Wentz. By the way, if you have not already listened to the QB SCO show on leaning relations podcast feed. Go check that out with Mike who kissed in Moscow 'field breaking down Carson winces performance from the two thousand eighteen season. I think people are making the same estate John that people made back going into two thousand seventeen where for some reason in this is like a broader topic here. I guess I'm digging up like people are just so like against Carson Wentz. It feels like inherently like going into the draft. Everyone was hating him going into two thousand seventeen everyone's always tucked as a rookie. There's this so much hate for Carson Wentz. I don't get it. I don't get on me. How you look at that guy. Like, if you get to know that guy and look at his talent and say, oh, yeah. This is a guy I wanna bet against like, no. I don't I don't think that's the guy you want to bet against I'm not saying perfect. I'm not saying he doesn't have issues injury thing. Obviously, there's reason to be skeptical by distinct when you look at the whole package, I just feel like you have to come back to this. This guy my betting against or is this guy I'm betting on. And to me is very simple guy. I'm betting on. When you look at the eagles odds here you look at that. They have the best quarterback in the NFC east, and they have by far the best head coach in the NFC east. We know Washington in the giants really aren't factors to me it really at all. And for the division title here. It's a two team race. And you haven't had a repeat winner in the east since two thousand four and I feel like the Cowboys overachieved a little bit last year in some regards. And by the way, also they had like incredible injury luck. Like, no one got hurt on that team for the most part. They didn't have to deal with nearly the same injuries that the eagles. Did. I just feel like things are turning back in the eagles direction. Feel they've had a good off season to this point the and I just feel like they're gonna win the division. So I would bet on them looking at these other ones guess on the stands out too much at the top of my head here. I I feel you know, needless podcast. So I'm saying say the the best bet here. But I really think that's true. I gotta say I know the Browns have made a lot of additions this off season. But it does seem weird to see them atop any kind of deficient as having the best odds to win the division. I and I know Pittsburgh lost a couple of really key players in lady on bell and Antonio Brown. But they didn't have bell at all last year in the running game was just fine. And so I'm not I'm not I'm still not convinced. I'm giving the AFC north to the Brown. Just yet. I think the ravens and Mitch did to see the ravens with Joe flacco now no longer plan quarterback for most of the season inch to see what that team does in two thousand nineteen here. But yeah, I agree with you. I think I think especially the point that the. Guys on the QB SCO show made in the points. You just made about Carson Wentz are one hundred percent true. I can't I really would just like for people to it's on YouTube. And I don't know if it's on their legally or not, but you can watch the the America's game video that the NFL NFL networks put out the NFS right that NFL films put out after you know, chronically eagles Super Bowl run. And just find the section where they talk about Carson Wentz. Find the portion where you hear players talking about Carson Wentz. And what he did that season. How much he meant to that team. Remember your emotions when he tore his when he ripped his knee apart at the end of the Rams game. And how you can go from feeling like that about a player to feeling the way. So many eagles fans feel about him. Now when he really didn't have a bad season last year. It just wasn't as amazing as the season before he definitely took a small step backward. Last. Ear and he was he he suffered from injuries last year. But this isn't a jerk either that you have to like, well, grit your teeth and root for because he's got so much talent. Not only does he have talent. Not only did he play pretty darn well while it recovering from a knee a massive knee injury. And then also hurting his back at some point last season. He actually played pretty well after that saints game. And like those guys at the on this cube go show we're talking about that saints game. I think did color. Everybody's perception of season last year and people forgot about the three games after that his last game of the year against the Cowboys in Dallas, he played really well played really, well and people just people forget about it. Because after they lost that Dallas game. Everybody just thought the season was over in Nick foles came in and magically one the Rams game. And somehow got them back into the playoffs and stole a game against the Chicago Bears in the wildcard round and all those stole a game in the divisional round against the saints. I mean, just the narrative of the whole season was. Was kind of skewed against Carson Winston. I think is going to have if you can stay healthy L G with a full offseason of working with his receivers of working at getting better getting into getting into the playbook. The last time Carson Wentz had a full off season to train as the starting quarterback in this offense. He had an MVP type season. So that's it. I like it. Budget? Let's do it any final. Yeah. Any final thoughts before we wrap up episode number forty two g and radio. Gee, I think we're gonna be talking about Carson Wentz. A lot obviously means the starting quarterback illegal. So of course, we are and contrary to some would say there's a lot of pressure on him in here in two thousand and nineteen and I'm I'm very much looking forward to this season. In a big reason as I've said before a big reason why is Carson Wentz? And honestly, I almost feel like I'm not gonna say don't stop doubting him. Like, no do keep doubting him. Because I like that almost I feel better. I think about Hartson when people are doubting him because every time that's happened. Once again, he's proven them wrong. So go ahead keep on downing him in a let him be the underdog. I think I'll take that. I'll take the in by the way, the people who do believe in him still usually those are the people I trust the most in those are the people who usually are. Right. Most of the time in have good opinions. The people who doubt him the most actually. The wrong a lot. So I guess. About what they have to. Obviously, we'll see how it goes. But as far as we go here now we've kinda hit a little bit of a lull. The first and second wave of free agency, you're kind of over maybe we're onto the third wave. Now. You know, we still wanna see what they do at running back. The draft is coming up in about a month. We'll have the NFL schedule release about a week before the draft. So I think we have NFL owners meetings coming up next week. So we have some things on here. Still. It's not going to be totally dead. We're going to be some things that pop up. You know, they could they could trade for Duke Johnson. Maybe by the time this podcast posted. Then is relevant went to emergency went to who knows something's up. But that's why you should be following a log with us year at bowling green, -ation dot com and the spot cast feed. Of course, if you haven't already somehow, I don't know what you're doing. But police have scribe leave a rating five stars, obviously in labor review. 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The Kist & Solak Show #16: Eagles D vs Titans O, iTunes Review Readings

"Michael kissed Benjamin so lack. It's the Kistin Solex show presented by SP nation and leading green nation. You are flying high on the kissed, and so lack show. This is episode sixteen brought to you by the fine folks at Espy nation and bleeding green nation. I am your host, Michael kissed you can follow me on Twitter at Michael kissed NFL as always joined by the best dog on co host in the game Mr. eight year streak without a bad day. He is Benjamin so lack follow him on Twitter at Benjamin select that's l. egg Cape Ben. How're you doing brother every a good day. It'd be on a live. Mike. I do however, have to issue an apology to the good people of Twitter dot com. And those who follow me falling, I work as you know, I offer many jersey take very big into the aesthetics of both college NFL football. For example, I have the correct take running Kelly green, which is that it is a nice alternate, but it should not be considered a main color for two thousand and eighteen professional football team. However, I misled you and I see you and. For that. I will read a prepared statement from the desk of Benjamin Somac. These ties uniform suck. They are the worst. I thought that there was something redeeming about them. When I first saw them. I said, the powder, blue garbage, which they wore the pattern route ones against the dolphins and may were garbage that I said, oh, the dark blue ones and like you know, the gray, don't hate it. I think it will be okay. Turns out it is not. This was my prepared statement that I definitely wrote down the sincerely and in grave regret Benjamin Zola. I watched the weather the Jaguars game, and they had that powder blue and they have the white numbers and the sun is hitting them in the back. I can't read a dog on it's terrible. I can't read the numbers. They look bad, like everything about it is awful. I thought tentatively the shoulder saber like the sword detailing on the shoulders would look like kind of cool, and it looks all. Full. I too much belief in the ability of NFL teams do hire anybody who can look at anything and decide that it will actually look good, terrible. I am very cynical person, and I did not like them when they revealed them, and I would like to your right at myself on the on the back, that one worked out for me. So never trust anyone, Ben. That's your lesson for today. Wow. I start to the podcast. Welcome to nice. Happy sounds. Now we're going to tell you how we know everything there is to know about football, never. Trust anyone. Yeah. We're going to start by telling you everything we know about football by telling you about the injury report that dropped on Wednesday. We're recording Wednesday night. We'll keep you updated with these reports as they come as up to date as we can. But this is what we know as of the Wednesday reports will start with the eagles a what we're gonna do later on after we get through this injury report is obviously we're going to be previewing this game between the two in one AFC south leaders. Ac- titans and the two in one and of leading Philadelphia Eagles defending Super Bowl champions don't know if you know that, but we're going to be previewing, the Tennessee titans offense against the Philadelphia Eagles defense. And then tomorrow will do. It will flip it and it'll be the eagles offense against the titans defense. So for right now, we gotta get to the injury report for the eagles did not participate, Jay Ajayi dealing with us back there and sproles Rodney McLeod and Michael Bennett. Now, a giant was seen running in like a separate part of the facility or whatever. Doug says him in sproles are feeling well. It was an expected rest day for both of them that I don't read too much into today. Thursday as this drops will be more telling don't freak out over Michael Bennett. He had a sick day, some sort of illness. I don't expect that to impact the status for Sunday. Rodney McLeod is the big one. There's buzz that his knee injury could cause him to miss multiple games. Doug has said that. He's waiting for one more test, which I'll tell you Ben, that sounds kind of ominous forboding to meet despite MacLeod's saying that he's feeling fine. If McLeod goes down, that means more snaps for Corey, Graham, that's not fun and potentially snaps for de'andre hall. The safety that they traded. The bears for Hume had six special team snaps last week, or they'll supplant their three safety packages that they've really used a lot this year with more nickel and dime packages, which doesn't sound so bad to me if you're getting Sidney Jones and then received Douglas on the field a little bit more than MacLeod has been playing really well, man. And this is a big bummer. If he's out for some significant time and you want to know what the biggest bummer part of it is. It isn't even that there's less McLeod, Mike, it's that there's more Corey grunt, Corey Graham is probably the worst active defender on the routes for sure, right. Undrafted free gym broke, Bruce. Hector probably just causes less problems in general. Then Corey, Graham courtrooms isn't good. It's just a Corey. Graham is just may even the idea that he's a reliable veteran who knows where he's going. He gets misaligned than he misses assignments alive. I don't get it no McLeod. Pretty much forces you to play Jenkins in the box exclusively which then reads you have Corey Graham up at the top all the time, which is gonna mean that your corners are gonna play. Probably a little bit more off on lava, the buccaneers game, and you're in a really struggle to cover the intermediate levels of. That's what I would end disobey. You don't have the duplicity to the the, the variability to move around your your safeties into spin them into rotate them into switch their positions. You can run less unique style coverages. We've talked by the inverted cover to cover traps that we'd like to see from Philadelphia. You lose this? Yeah. 'cause mcleod's been really giving you some cool versatility that you did not expect that you didn't regularly see in coming from running McLeod in years past, and so maybe be a big bummer. Obviously, MacLeod has an impact player, but also. Safety death was a concern. Mike, when we were talking about the draft man like us, we're bringing in Ceron Neil and just in read, we thought they could potentially take that late day too early three safety to provide some better depth. They went with trae Sullivan camp solvent didn't show them enough as to stave off the signing of Corey Graham. And now you're looking at Sullivan potentially being active, and that's not a good situation for anybody. So men MacLeod has one. Yeah, and I will say I like the Andre hall. I like what what I've seen from his tape, a converted cornerback. He just has autho field issues that he has not been able to figure out, you know, coming to the eagles. You already had a one game suspension that he had to serve before we could put him on the active roster. I do want to see some of him to see if there's something there because I think the onfield talent is definitely there. So be interesting to see if we work him in a little bit more. Really hope McCloud doesn't miss significant time. You see him a lot man and he just flashes onto the screen and you get Corey Graham on there, and it's more like a slow pan. And you see him just kinda like. Out there in space. So I really don't wanna see more Corey Graham, I hope they play more nickel if that's the case, get Sidney Jones out there and home my God. Anyway, let's move over to the titans injury report. We have did not participate long when Ben did not participate kicker Ryan suck up. That's a good start. He's dealing with a left knee also bad for a kicker wide receiver. Rashard Matthews had some personal issues tackled Dennis. Kelly had an illness, it's called being bad football, Blaine. Gabbert is Cussing prototype. Running back Chirpin, prod, Kelly traded for door greenback. Let's get Marcus Johnson, revenge game last week tackle for laws. Dennis, Kelly, revenge game this week. Not even gonna play David flu. Ellen is dealing with a groin not flu, Ellen. The new limited participation calmly? Correa the linebacker they just traded for from the ravens. He's dealing with a back issue. Full participation back is Marcus mariota dealing with those funky nerves with the elbow injury that are reportedly making his to bottom fingers that he uses to grip the ball, go numb, which that ingrate. Hopefully he's got feeling back those Jack conklin dealing with the knee, but he's back fulltime. He hasn't played yet this season. He would be a definite upgrade safety, Kendrick Lewis practice full. They're kind of beat up and they've been taking it easy with Ricky edge rusher and terrorize or herald Landry with his ankle that he entered the season when he played twenty seven snaps against the Jags. We could see more of him on Sunday. Obviously, the headline this bunches, Mary Mario, I'm gonna. I'm gonna go back and forth between Marietta and Mario, even Mario messes that up himself. I know there are very vocal people about the pronunciation of his name which is supposed to be Mario ta, but whatever. Anyway, this guy has six. Point zero yards per tempt. He has touchdowns two hundred sections for a team that has an eclipse twenty points in all three weeks. How do we feel about this Ben entry wise? From what I understand Mario's is expected to make the start. Jack conklin is expected to make the start off for the first time which we'll take Dennis Kelly off the field regardless on Kelly is healthy and also Ryan suck up mave Raval was just making jokes about it in pressures today. It was like, oh, yeah, like seconds old. Like he's like someone on Santa's not as worried about, I will say Har ski had a release out today, a titans, famous teams, which that it seems Rashard Matthews is just, you know, he got injured. He was injured in camp. He, it was his position with the team is already tenuous. He was missing for personal reasons. It seems that Matthews is just like gone down. They don't expect Matthews who gave them thirty one thirty one week free. They expect Matthews to no longer be with the team. So you're looking at Taylor who has earned. More reps now he had no snaps in week one, and then he's had about thirty or so snaps in the past two weeks alone with Taj, sharp and coronation. As your throughout receivers. Looks like Nova Rashard Matthews on moving forward. Yeah, in Taiwan. Taylor has definitely earned some of those rep, so it's really not a big loss for them, but any hit to this offense is is hidden. As we transition into this previewing, the titans offense against the eagles defense Ben, this offense makes me a little angry. Yes. So let's talk about this because you are pissed off at a Matt leflore offense. That to me is pretty Kyle. Shanahan he, I don't understand why what you don't like it's not really the construction of the offense from schematic standpoint, other than maybe an over reliance on on the power run in putting themselves in tough boxes in the running game, watching this offense takes a lot of patience for me because I've drafted in Email to edge analyst. Six as I collect these things, but the cowardice that they've shown on fourth down in enemy territory since they're QB situation has become unstable has been unbearable regardless of the circumstance and speaking of unbearable sixty six percent runs on first and ten sixty six percent and they aren't having success with it. They lead the league in run percentage. Why is that? So you say, okay, well, Blaine, gabbert and whatnot. That's fine. The run isn't working the past, even with Gabbard and mariota with one hand is still going to put you in a better situation to win, and yet might have to be like the short stuff but but good spread it out. Get Dion Lewis more evolved in the passing game on first down which they haven't done. That's my main issue. This, at least this scheme of it, get him one on one with a linebacker throat seven yards down the field, see how life treats after that. Because if they tried to do that and actually done it a couple of times and it's worked, and this is what will work for them going for. Forward and not slamming poor poor, Derrick, Henry into eight and nine man boxes. The NFL doesn't work that way anymore. Just the stubbornness and cowardice is unbelievable, and people are making excuses for for Mario and the play calling in the Jaguars game. Mario was fine in that first half, yeah, he can't push the ball vertically there. There's a lot of quarterbacks in the league that can't do that either and offenses find a way to work around. They don't go to sixty six percent run. He had three drives out of four. Were his receivers, dropped well-placed balls in the first half, and then the two minute warning they suddenly decide they're gonna slow things down and settle for field that they missed, which quite frankly, they deserve to miss and yeah, cool escape with w, but how much game winning chance are they leaking on these decisions? How much are they just giving away when in the third quarter up three, fourth, and one on the Jaguars forty five, you line up and you take the lay of game on a fourth in one you don't have to pass their. That's not about mariota go through. Pick aside run Henry up the gut and let him lean forward for three yards that has nothing to do with Mary iota, and he's still run through it which by the way, if they were so concerned with Mario too so much so that they dressed him and put him in when Gabor got murdered and then ran read option with him. And yeah, that's the best part of this offense right now. Mario running. That's the biggest threat. And I wish I could express the frustration which I have this often, it's it's not about being aggressive downfield which they can't be right now. I give a full pass for that. It's cowardly decisions in key moments that Luger the game. And just because the Jaguars had one of their predictable stinkers and the defense played well for the titans does not excuse just pure cowardice in regard to decision-making on offense as a Philadelphia Eagles fan that appreciate coaches with big balls Rabl in it for me right now. And he should shoot his game script that was supposed to change. So drastically with Matt leflore coming in and him coming and shoot it into the sun sixty six. Cent of the time on first down is this nineteen eighty is Ronald Reagan president. These things are not working in the NFL anymore. The analytics tell them such and they have the analytics company and building. They hired analytics to tell them this was stupid and continue to be stupid. So until they prove otherwise offense is just going to continue to piss me off Ben, right? This is I love this because this is the kind of different styles stuff that we bring to gas, Macy. Good has your, they're going man. Why? Running on I in Tennessee supersonic time game winning chances that I'm over here going. I see when they're working that outside zone I in. He's just trying to set up a little levels follow out the naked boot on the backside, like it's all manly. He's working all these reduced splits faking crack back blocks. He can get those releases into the flashing gives you those tomorrow. What? How running your bootleg on second nine because that's what you're getting, right? I wrapped up in the design of your on. I mean, the which is fair. The Zo Matt leflore is not the the offense. Omlund do that. Week medicine is the office coordinator of the Tennessee titans. Now you may remember, Matt, if is name because he received a lot of buzz in the off season because he was shot McVeigh's offense coordinator in Los Angeles. This past twenty seventeen season how McVay know him. Well, I'll tell you the was the quarterbacks coach in Washington, do ten to two thousand thirteen, which of the exact same years. The couch Shanahan was the offense coordinator there. Right? Shanahan went to Cleveland for one year and ended up in Notre Dame. And then when Shane had went back to the falcons. You held it so much of it so much. I was dying. Okay. When when Shanahan went back to become the. This is the first time that you've done this. I've done this summer. Usually you're breaking Shanahan, went back to the office according to the falcons and fifteen to sixteen the flow. Was there with him as well again as the quarterbacks coach and so- McVay knows him through the Shanahan tree. The flow went to be with McVeigh twenty seventeen with Rams. And then from there, breakable hired him really read redesigning this offense from the exotic smashmouth is so quoted from like munch AC. May he never coach again in the NFL. So what you're going to see from the flood from that offense, the titans put out. It's very similar to the Shanahan McVay ideas that eagle Saugus Redskins for the longest time. One of the eagles main struggles against the buccaneers Todd Mahnken offense. Mike was working reduced splits, and that's something you see at, I would say, even a higher click, then the Rams under McVeigh and. The the Niners under Shanahan one hundred percent? Yeah. What you're seeing from reduced splits, the wide receivers instead of being aligned outside of the numbers further outside we call those plus splits, reduce splits are lining up your outermost receivers. Like in the slot, she got a ton of bunch formations will be called nasty formations, which is two receivers, both. Like right next to the tapa a lotta stacks right one receiver right behind the other line scrimmage, and you can run classic concepts. You saw Yankee, you saw you saw levels all a very quickly. Very early. These downfield ideas working intermediate crossers, but defenses are built to handle those out of more traditional style of wide receiver. Alignment outta these reduced alignments the releases look different. There's more congestion. There's different. Reeds ended, especially gives trouble might cover three what the eagles liked to run. And so I really liked the way this offense is designed to make easy, simple choices that cause big problems for defenses like that's the smart aspect of it, right? It's not like we're doing crazy things to. 'cause. Between family easy things, just reduce. Let's not hard, but in doing so because problems for defense because they have to change the way they read pre snap and at snap way the receivers come off off the field off the line. So I think this this offense is very well Bill. It's very well designed now whether or not they have the personnel to execute some of these things. I'm sure we'll get into it. I know you wanna talk about the running game, so I'll let you get that rolling. So I think that's where we talked personnel little bit, but this offense is passing attack is designed. I think to affect the eagles cover three quite well. And I liked, I liked the past. They've got in Davis. Taiwan was coming on nicely. Jake sharp, good, intermediate guy. But boy, John Smith get himself from reps Delaney walkers on I are. I like that a lot. I, this is a good offense to really test the eagles secondary. We'll see how that goes for them before we get to the running game. When a bring back up mariota's legs, how he can threaten works, talked about it in his press conference at talked about how you know he he sprints into his. His actions, his Wagle's and everything like that. So they use a decent amount of play action. I wish they use a little bit more actually, but we'll see. We'll see if they do because they can get his legs of all that. That's an issue for the eagles. Because as we talked about on the last show of the eagles have some problems with not freelancing their rush and they can get opened up a little bit by that type thing. Yeah. And you also have to yet the respect the read option, which I trust the eagles defensive ends to stay disciplined with that more so than I would trust if Vinny curry was out there because he was usually the one busting on those types of things like we talked about on the last show when they've been on block Brandon, Graham and Derek Barton Chris long as a savvy veteran, they've been very, very good in Jacksonville, didn't spy Mario, and it bit them at times. And I'm not saying spy, but is the backfield zone. Defense run blitz his at the quarterback in running situations and mess with his option reads, if that's what they want to try to do to bring numbers on the passing downs. You watch that Jaguars game, and you see the first time plays with Gabbard in their three sacks in nine place. And the first two blitz got home when they got me Jackson on right guard, Josh Kline, why think the eagles as the boy? Yeah, really, really work over clydes. Campbell came free on a stunt and Gabbard simply panicked on in the pocket. So he had an opportunity Gabbard date on that play where he got killed to step up. He just crapped his pants and it literally led to his murder, Jackson rock them knocked them out of the game. He fumbles obviously, there's a flag for him with the helmet because there is on every second the NFL next, you know, mariota's and the game after that one sack, but the offense of line to me as little pressure as they given up to this point. You look at that interior and what the eagles do and with the eagles are good at and they're very suspect. And right now mariota can't spin it like normal. If that doesn't improve where he can't hit those deep outs, those corner rows that he throws really well and really pretty the deep curls. If those aren't a threat, you're more worried about down the seams. And even then until he shows he can threaten. This defense in deep portions of the field. I'm not concerned about it. If I'm Jim Schwartz lesson, you brought up our Josh climb, the eagles right guards they have faced. We won Vedra good in in Atlanta. We're finding week to Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Venezuela, bad, knock great week, three Indianapolis, Colts. Matt's Lawson not great ad week for Josh Klein, Tennessee titans might be the best of the three point. Not. Here's the betray is better. But yeah, I get your point the best of the most recent three betrays. Definitely. I was talking about the most recent three. I got. The interiors Tampa. The one on the left, Jack Hong Kong writes a good tackle. Do you got your problems with one conklin? But when it comes to the NFL you can't turn your nose up at that tackle. Do a good tackle do now. They're interior Quinton, Spain on the left van Jones in the middle, Josh Klein on the right that interior might that interior is built for exotic spat match. Smashmouth. It is built to run people over. Spain is a powerful. Do clients. Strength is his power then Jones with people mover for sure. When they try to run outside zone, which is a staple right? If you're running the Shanahan system, you need it. Talk to Derrick Henry, trying to raise whatever interior linemen got through the center of the line, right? He's got, he's deathly and you can. You can pull off outside zone that way like that's done before you on. I mean, like they'll they'll run crack toss, right? And the whole idea behind crack tosses like, listen, we're gonna get the ball to the outside so quickly that don't even worry about blocking the interior guys. They don't really matter. They can't make this play. Like we love how good Futch Cox's. He's not really making that play. If he was putting like Brandon Graham, Michael Bennett on the inside. Those guys can move right out of their much lighter, but also outside don't you can pull it off where if you bought the frontside real well backside pursuit from the interior defense, alignment doesn't matter as much. Right. That's easier when you're running out of shotgun, which is not what you see is much more so see out of under center which is going to bring the, it's gonna delay the hand off a little bit. It's going to bring that running back a little bit closer to the line to make it easier frontier. If it's a lime and again in there, but you can pull that off. They're going to need to because Spain and Klein, particularly, I like Ben Jones a little bit Spain, inclined particularly lack the agility to get on their horse and regularly win, reach blocks on outside. They weren't off. It's Bill for this, right? And it's the first year, the system, and it's a completely different systems. That's the reality. Okay. We've talked very positively unless podcast on Wednesday of eagles backside pursuit from their defensive end who are on blocked now. Tennessee, typically what you would call an outside zone. You come on outside zone, open or closed, right. Open outside zone is the backside tackle in the guard. They're gonna climb up into the second level depending on the defensive alignment, and they're gonna leave that end on blocked any ideas. Just going to beat him at race are running, backs in and get to the spot for he does. Tennessee doesn't typically run their outside zone with open blocked on the backside that typically running closed, which means that backs tackle cut blocking that back defender, right? So the eagles aren't going to get as much Brandon, Graham Derek Burnett backside, pursues. They're used to on these concepts, Tennessee closes the backside with Cup, lock those interior defense. Alignment are gonna have to run sign the sideline Cox. And then when NADA unveil are in there, which is not a strength, not unveil of this defense, they need to be able to pursue silent silent and make plays from behind because otherwise Tennessee is gonna be able to get plus one on the front side in terms of blocking numbers, and they're going to be able to generate some running lanes. So interior defensive line Cox of AO and NADA. Being able to beat left guard, Quinton, Spain, and right guard, Josh Klein on outside zone is a huge storyline. Stepping of Tennessee can astound the run. Like we, we know a salvage. The run isn't nearly as valuable. Blink said they run sixty six percent of the time on first down. If they're picking up healthy yardage, we got us a problem and luckily they haven't been able to do that so far. Then it's led to long third down situations, twenty second in the league on Kurdi. Converting those third downs, bend my notes on this offensive line is really simple. Basically what you touched on the tackles are fine. Ben Jones is terrible athlete, but decent Quin Spain is a bad athlete, and Josh Klein is an average athlete, but he's not very good. So you try to run those things, manages it looked so ugly coordinated and Derrick Henry is not built for zone for outside zone. He's he's just not. He's two hundred and forty plus pounds. Do you? Don't tell me. So are you a Derek truth or yes or no? I don't know what that is in. Here's my thing with Derrick, Henry thing. Okay. Then just give me your take on them. The the thing about, I feel like countering any narrative with with more bad narratives. I greeted him in the off season. I did a full evaluation of five games that great at his game, and he came out to be a believe. It was a four point one. Seven, which in my scale is a low end starter, a solid starter, but a low end starter, a guy that you would eventually want to replace in the guy. I would like them to replace with Dion Lewis because I feel that deal Lewis does everything that Derrick Henry does and does it better other than finishing and deal Lewis's super underrated finisher. So I would put up more offense more on Lewis and had John Lewis more there in in the early downs. But Derrick, Henry, if you got him in a power scheme, fine, you give them a runway. Let him build up speed because he's got that long stride. I'm more comfortable with him. There you put him in his own scheme and his value for me drops because it takes him forever to cut and vision has never been his thing, and you're giving him three options at the front, and he doesn't know where to go in the system yet and you can. See the wheels turning and the wheels start turning to play speech. Rops. The place beat is already dropping because he can't turn. He can't hit those cuts. I, he's good running outside when he's going inside and bounces because he doesn't have to make sharp cut. He can run that arc, right? So I thought people were saying, oh, he always run all of his best runs come to the outside. It's not the same. His bounce in zone point. The way his mind works is a backside cut and that takes forever for him to get to. Right. Well, he was so successful in Alabama. And what's album doing doing guard tackle counter read, right? So the whole thing is half the offensive go in one direction. The other half the offense of Linus crossing going the other direction and a big Allie opens up right up the middle right Henry's typically running that out of the shotgun. Right. And so he's getting the ball and he's at a standstill and he can go outside zone. He's working east west. I two hundred and forty pounds to change directions way too much too. I mean. Was it a good idea to have Marco? Murray come here is out runner and Borkum. East west is the same. The same principle as failing for the same reason, he's averaging, what is he averaging less than four yards per carry? Is it something like two point night? It's bad is all three point? Seven. Yeah. And I feel like Henry is I wanna say like three flat. I want say two point nine. We gotta look that up. I'm gonna say to nominal, I'm gonna find it and you're gonna be right under the past. They just want to much outside zone with him, and I don't know how that's going to be a fit long-term, and it's a good thing. They got Dion Lewis. They need to figure out that Lewis needs to get more reps as a better runner, and he's a better receiver out of the backfield. They need to get him involved in the screen game with this game. Even though Fletcher Cox, sniff those out real easy against an aggressive defense. You have to try something to get the offense going. Ben is no average money. No, I was waiting while I was talking through that just trying to get to the point where he found out. Congratulations. Benue one are, I guess it game here on the kiss. And so how do you feel. I m prompt do random over on your guessing bed thing that doesn't have it will be happens as the show derails throughout the throughout the reporting Ben. How do we feel about twenty ninth in the red zone for the for the Tennessee titans. This team cannot score. I'm not surprised. I'll tell you why in-between the twenties space can win for you. You can generate space and you can get that. I read once you get up against the twenties, and this is why when we talk about Doug Peterson, usually the first thing that I love talk about is how he generates face in the red zone. Run Kaz. Yup. To me while he does so many things well, he deserves credit for so many things and aggressiveness my favorite thing about Peterson on-field coach is how he schemes the red zone preach. It is very hard to generate space in the red zone because the field ends. It just ends at the end line this the rat. You can't push any further back, right? This titans. Offense comes to screeching halt when they even get to like might the thirty. Yeah, and they start running out of space down the field. You know what I mean? It feels like they start mentally setting up for. A field goal, but that maybe that's more in my mind, but go ahead, right? And they know they come short, I think, would they like a lot of teams like forty is shop territory, and I think once they clear the forty may start getting into thirty, they start looking very flat heavy to me and they'll take single covered shots, which is kind of looking like the the thirties that area. Like I like that idea. That's we wanna be taking those shots. I got single high cartridge. I've got my best receiver. One backside I got. We just take this ball seeking score right now. The problem is Corey Davis is not that receiver yet. Target sharp never was that receiver entail one Taylor isn't that receiver, and so they don't have the guy, right? You lose space in the red zone. So your personnel becomes more important Zach earth just being a great leverage player becomes more important. Sean, Jeffrey being a great contested. Catch player becomes more important. Being able to have quick hitting running plays that. Again, north thirty quickly becomes more important, and this is not the offense. So I, you know, like you said, all. Three games under twenty points. I think that that stat life you about how good this offense is, but also doesn't even reveal the way that they struggle in the red zone. You know what I mean? Like I don't know what their yardage toes are just in the NFL, but I feel like they're much higher than that twenty nine th red zone ranking the you that you dropped. Like I said, I don't know if it's a mental thing with them. It just seems like the the thing at the end of the first half against the Jaguars mariota was slinging it, Mary all short areas stuff. The intermediate throws Marietta was put it on the dine in people wanna say they wanna save mariota in set up for field goal there that they missed. Like I was legitimately upset about that. I'm not trying to be hyperbolic over the top. It's a dumb decision, and that's spineless to me. Go attack. Go get some points before the half. That's how you lose football games. That's how the Jaguars lost the patriots in twenty the replaying the Jaguars, but kneeling in that situation. Something that I'm sure eagles fans can understand with the way that we attack at the end of the half that everyone should be able to stay in understood. That's listening that something that's gotta be mentality. It doesn't seem like they have that killer mentality. When they get into opposing territory, they don't know how to manufacture that space like you talked about as well as Doug Peterson, who I agree, one of his best quality. So that's my major issue with this offense is right now. They're they're so unstable at that quarterback position and it just it's rendered them impotent until that gets fixed until they show some faith in Marietta. Or, you know, he gets the feeling back in his hand and the any looks better. I mean, I get that part of it. Trust me, I do. I get that part of it, but until they changed the mindset, I mean, you look at the weapons, the weapons aren't bad, might you did you did you? Did you see this Jedd fish thing? Sean McVay which was that? All right. So Jeff issue was. At Michigan for while as quarterbacks coach in NFL. I think he was interim head coach for Tennessee last year after the governable Hera is now the like basically the football situational analysis. Co guy? Yeah, for Sean McVay. Bye-bye. His job is just to know when it's time to make good decisions and how to make the and what to do in different spots to be aggressive. Yeah, we needed to get leflore one of those great at everything. And I don't know. Obviously, like you know, Rachel's probably making a lot of situation calls awhile. I don't think it's just, but they need to get one of those guys and the entire league does listen. It's easy to play the traditional conservative way. When you go up against Jacksonville, you go up against Philadelphia and it ends up mattering. It's gonna become very clear very quickly. What's needed from you because Philip expose that because they are the different mindset. So we'll see what you know if the times. Put one of those situations at they don't go for it. They don't take the opportunity, comes up, binding them in the butt down. I mean, when you're playing the eagles that's going to get talked about speaking of exposing. We've already said that the interior of the eagles defensive line should expose the interior of the titans offense of line. We're talking Fletcher Cox, Michael Bennett going off his pass rushers at the eagles getting early lead. It might get a little bit ugly since the titans can't pass downfield and you're gonna, let them pin it back and do all types of crazy stuff on the inside. They are sugar all those gaps baby because they have problems with with identifying Lytham, picking them up with pass pro and and just moments. But what about how the titans can expose this defense? Do you see any answers for the titans at wide receiver or as far as the weapons go? I see, we talked about Dion Lewis being awesome receiving back, but you look at someone like Taj sharp against Ronald Darby, Corey Davis against Jalen mills, and Lou of retard Matthews. You're probably gonna see a lot of Taiwan Taylor against my Mayon Sidney Jones. Do any of those matchup stand out to you as. A potential problem for the Philadelphia Eagles. Not. I mean, I've loved to say, I'd love say, you know, coordinate onset is coming because I big core guy. It was a top player in that class. Very good. Young man had a deal with injury in his first year in it's always fair. He very difficult for rookie. And then with wide receivers, I always a can be very hit or miss even for those around one guys. And so I think core is coming along nicely. He had to deal with health issues again, in training camp, be out of hope. He stays healthy. Listen at this point, he is the highest snaps per game weapon for the Tennessee titans. You know, he's, he's also having Marcus mariota. If you will also snapping, you know, like Dion Lewis in Derrick, Henry, what have you? And he's getting targeted on fifteen percent of snaps that also is right up there. The only person above as delanie Walker who obviously went down on, so he wouldn't necessarily have that high of a number otherwise. So Davis is the guy who gets fed if you're gonna, get him on mills, Davis will win some of those reps. But aren't the, he's yet that receiver to cause those problems over under on points for the Tennessee titans. Will they finally crack and go beyond the twenty point ceiling that has been so daunting to them to this point? I don't think so. They think so. Vegas currently has a line set around a forty two point total and it's Philly as a four point favorite. So that's given the titans nineteen points. They believe in rights in right on the line, right, right. On the line, giving him nineteen points on that line lesson. We're talking about Philadelphia defense that while it's worse on the road is I say. I would say comparable to the Jacksonville defense, they faced which the titans scored six points against. So I mean, obviously a healthier mariota helps Jack conklin gives him a little bit more time in the pocket. Not that Mario does not a great pocket maneuver because he is. I don't see a ton of firepower for this team. I also don't see defense or special teams in my curse reviewing. That's going to be able to give them the field position colts got as long as the eagles on shooting themselves in the foot. You're not gonna see nearly as many short fields in that regard cell. Now, this does not screen. It's two one Tennessee team. The defense seems to be playing well insight into that tape. I am not a really like the design of the offense. But as I said, I don't think they can score and also I think that Philadelphia's interior defense alliance can be very disruptive. So now I'm going under twenty on the total for the titans for as critical as I am of the Tennessee titans offense. I feel like I'm going to be much more pleasant tomorrow when what he's talked about the Tennessee titans defense because they're. Good. So then I think that does it for today. I'm taking the under by the way on the twenty points. I don't know if I made that obvious over last until I get mine Haussas and I knew figure it out. 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The Kist & Solak Show #40: Eagles Stunned by Dallas

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The Kist & Solak Show #40: Eagles Stunned by Dallas

"They. Hi, this is Jim chica- our podcast step over will be ballers podcasts that work for all of your Sixers needs. Says game breakdowns with a course in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts heathen, I tune Stitcher sparked by or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Michael kissed Benjamin. So it's the Kistin Solex show presented by SP nation and leading nation. This is the Kistin Solex show episode forty brought to you by the five. That's correct. Four and five brought to you by the fine folks at SP nation and leading green nation. Your host Michael kissed is always as always Benjamin so lack with me, then I mean, we'll get right to it. No need for the Jonty opening as per usual. The Dallas Cowboys have DVD Philadelphia Eagles at home. It feels like a loss that is going to be very tough to recover from this needed to be as we talked about a lot a statement game at home taking care of business and then ruling into a game with the dangerous New Orleans Saints with some momentum. However, the eagles do not get it done can't finish on either side of the ball. And here we are four and five how you feel in brother. Good data to be alive is very disappointing game just top the bottom. We'd like to figure out who to blame. And the reality is that you could. Name out of a hat. Probably as long as it wasn't Zakar. It's I think you'd be right socks. We'll go through in their coaching decisions that offensively defensively though. A rough. It's been a big coming out of the bye. Yeah. They came out of the by with more injuries than they went into a with. I mean like they were healthier for the Jaguars game. Then they work for this game. So, you know, out of the buys, obviously, a big buzz phrase, but the team has beat up banged up lost three straight at home defense. Can't stop anybody in the fourth quarter. Offense can't score any points when they're the game within reach fourth quarter eagles still only scored more than twenty four points. Once this year against the giants eagles have not lost a game by multiple possessions. They just for three quarters things stay close and then in the fourth quarter. They can't buy a win. It's tough to say that that's all on the players. And the Carson Wentz in clutch. Something we've talked about Carson again had opportunity for potential. Game winning slash gametime drive in this game was not able to succeed as you talk about coaching. You know, this is a team that clearly is experiencing massive execution issues. Top to bottom seems to be some serious issues with with how the offense is being deployed given. The fact you just traded for golden Tae offense kinda didn't look any different or any more dynamic United defense coaching problems in the sense that Yemen you've got your third and sixth string corners as you're outside corners and replaced. Pure man coverage late in the fourth United is a lot that sucked in when his line that soccer team loses. This analysis from Kansas all I show. Yeah. And of course, we're going to do all twenty two film review in really dig into the nitty gritty of it. But for right now, this is just pure emotion. Just just dripping out of us. So you look to the beginning of the game for some opportunities were, you know, the eagles could have done better too. To start quicker, and those didn't materialize you get the three out to start the game from the offense. And then the next drive for the Cowboys. You have a drop in reception from McGraw Hill, which could have been a pick six, obviously, you know, he's dealing with the broken thumb or whatever it is and wasn't able to haul that in and right after that third down conversion happens because Darby can't wrap up in the Cowboys go to pawn on fourth into when they end up converting on that. That's kind of the the scoring started. If I'm not mistaken. I think they got a field goal out of that possession. But right away. I mean, we thought or at least I thought it was going to be a slow start. And it was but it just feels like even when the eagles started to ramp up offensively. That's when the defense started to fail, and you say, you know, going into half your down thirteen three it's not that bad, and you can come back, and you can do whatever. But you know, you tied up at twenty twenty. And then the defense just what was it thirteen thirteen and the defense gives drive and then it's twenty twenty and the. Defense gives up another big drive, and they were easy drives and against a bad offense and against a bad. Dallas Cowboys team we lost bad team at home in a must win game. Something that had to be a statement for us and just the execution. Just wasn't there. We talk about play calling a lot we criticize play calling for both the offense and the defense. I think more so for the defense but for the offense you get into third into situations late in the game. We were talking before the show that you throw a screen behind the line. Where's the aggressiveness? Like, I I understand the aggressive aggressiveness coming on fourth down in going for and whatnot. And that's all great. We got stuffed early on one at Josh Adams got stuffed on fourth in one. Where's the aggressiveness on on third down to say? Okay. You know, it's third to even if we don't hit this downfield shot were still going for something. Like, that's what I felt like last year, and the feeling is totally different this year last year. You felt like okay. This team on third in two. They're going to they're going to convert. Like fifteen yards. You know, obviously, there's no data behind that. From from what I'm saying? That was the feeling. That's what seemed to me happened a lot this year super-conservative when they get in those situations a lot of horizontal stretches and whatnot. Like this team has deep weapons Nelson. Agla hats downfield targets that that look nice house alshon. Yours is a threat. You can work Zack were it's accurate in the in the intermediate intermediate areas, but like third into your thrown a screen pass when I'd much rather get Zakar singled up on somebody or working inside of his own. And it doesn't feel like this offense has the same juice the same mentality that you know, they had last year and we were talking with Brandon league out in during the game. And he asked you know, how much do you put this on depot and Frank Reich leading because Frank rights to win a fantastic job there in Indianapolis, especially with the with the offensive side of the ball with with what they have there. We have a lot more weapons than than what he hasn't Indianapolis over not executing as well when we're not looking as. As dangerous right now. And you start to wonder were micro and press Taylor the right hires, and it's hard to quantify that especially in season with so much happening in to really dig into it. You can look at offensive metrics to 'em things of that nature and go a will, obviously. Yes. But there are so many other senior you circumstances around that that it's hard to really say so barrel pitch to you and say, you know, what are your thoughts on on the team and their lack of aggressiveness on third down. And just the feel of the team and about the the in house hires. I I wanna lot of different directions there as you can tell them distraught. From this crushing laws a couple things to address to the micro. And and press Taylor versus default bone right thing. Here's what's the important thing for me to say, I which I feel like I always end up saying like, you know, let's pause take a second here. And so my let's pause and take a second. Here is. It's very easy to look from year to year and say, okay. Well, what is changed between twenty eight twenty seventeen twenty eighteen. I this is a big thing this changed. This must be where the difference is coming from right, right? This is why and you and I made jokes about this. We have multiple people keep on telling us manage like Garrett blunt blunt is being very ineffective in Detroit right now blunt was like, you know, a stopgap part of a committee and me, but because it's a difference. And the running game is worse while then blunt must be a big part of it. And it's not the fact that is also giant, and there's no sproles and you've got new start at left guard. You've had bang up off its tackles came any of that. It's blunt is different on. So. Yeah, the offense is much worse than was last year and two of the main offense of are gone. And so that's probably part of it. But I think it's very important that we contextualized what is different and the main difference to me that I can see is that you had incredible. Situational play for Philadelphia on third down fourth down money downs. And in the red zone last year. And it was known. It is known game of thrones comes back around. It is known def- Lippo played a huge role in designing red zone plays. It was known that Frank Reich pleaded huge role in third and fourth down. This was something that like we were told by the coaches like they were a big part of this. You know, like just watching that film on their opposing defenses picking up on tendencies. In those situations. Does Doug Peterson have the same degree of trust slash do. Mike Ron Prestia the same degree of skill and film analysis to pull that off. Mike eagles were four and ten on third downs and over two on fourth downs in this game the four for twelve total thirty three percent, that's awful. And it's not we've come to expect from the eagles zoo. That's what you see the reflections. When it's just the overall play calling. I really think the overall play calling is not much different or that much worse on full gra- game situation. There are a lot of complaints about game script. I'm here to that game script was what Philadelphia's been pulling out as a game script for every single game that I can remember Doug Peterson goes. Yeah. Didn't work. Well this week on. Maybe he should switch. If he's going to do like, very similarly every time, obviously, douse was pretty ready for it. But you know, the third and five on the second, Dr alshon Jeffery incompletion. They run that row on third medium all the time. And it works most of the time. And it didn't this time. You can't call it a bad play call now when it was usually successful. And you don't mind it. You know what I mean? So I think it's important that we categorize where we have on bridge. And where where okay, we say, this is different must be causing all the problems, probably not all of them. It's just causing some the other big issue when it comes to the in building hires. And this is something that I've talked about like, I don't think on the pockets. I've talked about like with you guys with people the biggest danger of in the building hires and even talk about in family hires. Right. Nepotism in. Yeah. Bobby between. Oh, just got fired from Louisville head coach Lou football. Guess what? His son also got release because his son was helping coordinate his offense. Right. We talk about nepotism end in family higher so on and so forth when you. Hire people from a tree whether it's a coaching tree or or just the Philadelphia Eagles organization from your family that you understand, you know. Well, they have the same gaps in knowledge that you do. So grow hired somebody who learned from Reich, you know, a Peterson hired grow who learned from Reich. Peterson higher press Taylor who learned from John D Filipa, right? And that's all well and good. And a lot of these NFL head coaches are guys, you know, Peterson was brought in because he knew Andy Reid. And then he was brought with Andy to Kansas City in brought up by Andy like it worked for Peterson. Right. So it's not surprising doing it here. But when you bring up these in building guys they have the same weaknesses or from the same schools of thought. And so when you start getting beat by certain ideas, you don't necessarily have the colorful backgrounds the variety of exposures of different systems, and under different coaches and learn different tips and tricks along the way, you can't just kind of pull from a melting pot of ideas, your of your hand. And has many cookie jars and all of a sudden your offense films very reliant on the same idea? I think my big culprit here would be screens every time the Philadelphia Eagles crossed the Ponant forty yard line. They throw a screen, and I don't there must have been some film thing at some point. They were like, wow, this is the greatest thing in the world screen inside of the Ford of the most successful all the time. It doesn't work. It has. I can't remember screen has been super successful. But they did a little throwback screen to Corey Clement which was which is where he he dropped its fumbled. It's ever happened. There. They did a third to screen late in the game. I'll when Guidon inside of the forty yard line, which was the late in van rash play. The Chris calls with losing his mind over on ended up becoming fourth and seven in the Zakar catch hold of you, which was a confusing process. They love to run those screens. It's clear that they think that's a great depth for screens. They haven't been working. But because nobody in the building was not suckled on this idea of we're inside the forty. Let's run a screen. Nobody resists it. Hey, what if we stopped doing this, right 'cause they're all kind of the same ideology? So that's where the in building higher really concerns me. And that's something that I think Filadelfia has got to look into in the off season. We're not like, I'm not saying, let's fire grow. I don't think we should. But what I think it needs to happen. Is you need to make sure in your building your constantly cycling in new ideas from different systems that have been successful. And so that's something that on the offense of side of the ball. I don't have much to complain about in terms of what Peter. Does over the scope of the game, obviously, illegals law so easy to criticize him I just did on third in screen color, aided it, but the breadth of Pearson's work as as Super Bowl winning head coach is impossible to argue if he's a good coach national football. He's good play. Call is great offense of mind. Then I didn't have a very successful game today. Offense has been struggling. He's got injuries. Offense lines got injuries in the backfield. He's got he's got to figure out personnel. Groupings? We gotta talk about twelve personnel does stuff to figure out but Peterson is fine and play calling his fine. The offense of mines grow and Taylor. Yeah. There's some concern. But we don't wanna put too many eggs in one basket. In terms of who deserves blame. We talked about screens being something that they could be successful with coming into this game. Based on what we saw from the Cowboys on film. But situationally I did not like that the point that they used, and you know, you mentioned twelve personnel. They rental lot eleven personal personnel tonight. In a wasn't because golden Tate was there. They're using Jordan Mathews. Lot in even with, Dan. I can't even tell you. How unbelievable it was to me and Jordan Mathews playing. Well, I'm fine of Matthews plays. Well, but tape played about tapley about twenty percent of the snaps. But I think God or played maybe fifteen right? I don't I don't you're. You are the best twelve personnel team in the league offense defenses are not built to stop toll personnel. Their Bill to stop eleven personnel. You have a entire section of your playbook. That other teams aren't good at stopping us it, and here's the thing too. When you talk over the lack of twelve personnel. What the eagles were doing a lot. And they did this on forty four percent of the snaps in in the first half. I charted it was they were giving hell to Holly to outside the refined. Snaps seven snaps. Total five in the first half. Where the tight end for the eagles in. I think it was pretty much all Zach arts in this case either blocked DeMarcus Lawrence because of a play action or whatever the case was. Shifting or sliding or gave a chip in helping was late to his release because they wanted to block up, Lawrence and big view. They knew it was going to be a struggle. They helped big these so much. You know, what to v alignment got it on that side. Put him in line change the path in which DeMarcus Lawrence can rush the passer. Get your guy out into a route. That's what it understand about it. Like, okay. You want to go live in personnel. But then you wanna take when your best guys at working the middle of the field and make him a blocker. In your wondering why you're struggling on third down. When he's been your best third-down target the entirety of the season that didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. So there's that part of it is well in that something that we can look at when we look at the film, and you know, when Tait was in there, it was pretty much as expected accounted in are probably missed a few but seven snaps in the slot. I saw three where he was outside. But it was from a reduced split. There was the one jet and then the one at running back, which is. We talked before the game the saying that we are going to get real creative with golden Tate in the building of what we did was we came out and trips through what looks like a bubble screen to a wider series through lateral to golden Tate who is lined up at running back and went for like four or five yards. I don't even remember it was it was it was super planned. So I I understand it's gonna take time for Tate to get involved in the system, but I don't understand getting away from the what you had success with if you're gonna use Matthews not Tate, and again like you said Matthews is playing just fine. That's not my problem. It's what works for this offense right now in what also helps you give aid to big v without taking away. One of your best pass catching options in Zachariah ads. And that's using those twelve personnel said so flip it flipping it over this is depressing debt Prescott Twenty-three for excuse me. Twenty six thirty six hundred seventy yards and a touchdown is equal Elliott. Nineteen carries one hundred fifty one yards for seven point nine average one driver. They ran four times March. Right down the field. The defense was not able to stop it. Obviously they sacked Dacca bunch. I mean that all that look great everything that I was expecting coming into. That was pretty much out was they threw a bunch of stunts early in the game in let off later in the game. But they threw some bliss early that confused them. And you know, we got burned a couple of times on third down. But overall overall the pressure was looking great in the first half, second half, not so much. Michael Bennett made some great plays when a shot him out because he played absolutely fantastic. But other than that. I mean, I don't know what you expect from her soul Douglas to do Amari Cooper. And he got he got roasted a couple of times you're playing trae Sullivan in the secondary. We can rose shorts shorts for playing vanilla defense. But my God who are you starting out there, and what are they capable of without worrying about them just confusing everything entirely at the same time, though. And I and I tweeted this out, and I really do believe this. We point fingers at the offense or the. Offense, depending on what we feel. Neither of these units has been able to finish the game period. You know, you get one every now and they get the Atlanta Falcons game with the colts game or the defense finished the game force. You get the game against the Jaguars were the offense was able to finish the game for us. But overall as unit neither of them are getting it done in crunch time. And I think that's been one of the main main failures for the defense giving up to score late against the Tennessee titans. Giving up a seventeen point lead to the Carolina Panthers. And then once the offense gets going in Dallas Cowboys game here, they are not able to get a stop to allow the eagles to recovering Guetta league. Giving up twenty seven points to a bad a bad offense. Just call it. What it is. And you feel like like this. This was supposed to be the game. This is it man like my hope for a bounceback season died on that field tonight. This was this was this was a must winner. I mean, obviously, mathematically Philadelphia's eliminated. But there are two games back from a Washington Redskins team as a much easier schedule than they do. So your point where I actually I think the eagles team honestly at least split with Redskins. I don't think the Redskins are good team. It's just simply the eagles lost enough games. They should've won this year that they've put themselves in a situation where it's a highly unlikely to imagine they'll be able to make significant playoff. Plus, you know, they might dwindle. And and hang around kind of at the on the bubble spots on the graphics. We start seeing in week thirteen it's unrealistic to expect that they'll be able to make a significant playoff Bush. That's highly disappointed. And now you expected coming into the season. We got the saints next week, dude. They just hung fifty plus on the Bengals on the road after the Bengals were on a BI. Okay. Ed men Italy Cincinnati's defense playing awful football for like three weeks up to that game. But now Philadelphia. Philadelphia philadelphia. It'd be multi score underdogs to the saints in Orleans of memory serves and rightfully so. Because the not very good. They're not playing very very good team right now on overall if we if we. Do we sly we step back when we take actually let's talk divas before we step back. Okay. The eagles active secondary tonight included Ronald Darby who eventually went down. So blood scratch Darby eagles healthy secondary for the fourth quarter result. Douglas, Channon Sullivan, cravat, LeBlanc, and volunteer. Maddox at corner and safety Corey Graham, Malcolm Jenkins core Graham price ullivan that touchdown that touchdown were. They did like the the motion in then they leaked out in was just like standing there like, dude. Oh my God. Just just be injuring be injured because you're not doing anything an article about those running back. Release plays against men coverage dropping I like eagles have been burned by them literally all year because they asked though, I'm back is people to cover those into space, which is a bad formula. This is still a defensive has not given up thirty points in the game. And you still feel like it's awful like. Just because the way they're losing. Right. So I actually just sent out a tweet that said you can find a bunch of stabs stats. Just eagles defenses at fault. You find a bunch of staff suggest the is at fault. The reason is because the entire team is at fault because their team blind. My my official take on the offense defense dichotomy if I have to have one which I mean, I pay me podcast. So I guess I do. Is this offense needs to play. Really? Well, weakened weak out to cover for the defense. Right. Right. And we talked about the fact that like Carson wines. I love I love this stats. Very interesting to me because you can take it seven different ways cars has never won a game with the opposing ski team scored more than twenty four points, right which leads to a couple of these two one. You talk about Carson Wentz in late games. Like kind of it's a it's a it's a close one. He seems to really struggle. So he can needs the defense to to kinda give him a little bit of a cushion that you could argue that you could argue so this team only really ever wins. When the defense is Elise. Really? It's the offense is holding this scene back on the other point, you could say, okay. Well, what this indicates is that when you're blowing the top of this defense, you can just run the score up on them. And they use office has no chance, you know. What I mean, there's a lot that goes into that. But fast three years he goes never wanna game. The opposing teams are more than twenty four points. They don't win the high scoring games. And so this off. Needs to be able to play it incredibly elite level to be eighteen. That has good offense. Right. Is kinda like what what we're talking about early offices playing while I wouldn't call Cowboys offense good, but they put up their highest yardage total and one of the highest point totals of the year against the eagles at home. It's tough to talk about. But if we're focusing on that secondary. What do you do what how do you? They I saw on there. It's like thirteen thirteen twenty twenty. I'm Stanley us own blitz. I mean, you can't leave these corners man, which ended up doing it sought right? You can't core is a man. But also when you zone blitz like, it's very difficult to ask Channon Sullivan to play a responsibility in zone blitz because he's gonna have distinct reads, and he has not practiced those because he is a bad bottle roster. Practice player. Right. That's what I mean. Like, what can you do creatively? Ninety five percent of people listening to this podcast. Do not know where channel went to school is under. After rookie free agent. Dunaway went to school. So they'll. Was that Chan was that China not Trey was it? Trae Sullivan trae thirty seven was playing safety at times, which I found hysterical, by the way, this is the most I can remember trae Sullivan playing and it was the week that choreographed came back from injury God. Anyway, I'm Shannon solvent. Never thirty nine was out out at the flying corner. Once-starving went down because there was no Jalen bills. And there was no Sydney. John eagles were playing without their top three quarters in the fourth quarter. Does like that's board. Remember like, we who will you like if we were not coming off a Super Bowl championship would expect a team not without their top three quarters with other top safeties without top therefore their top five secondary players to be able to stop any money. No. But we want to we want to last year. And what's crazy is in? We talked about this before a couple of weeks ago when I said Benham on the edge talk me down because I feel like these injuries are piling up in their insurmountable. And we're not ruling through them in winning like we were. Last year. And it's just it's too much. It's too much. And I think tonight, but as you're as you're talking about this in the secondary, I'm thinking, oh my God. Chanted Sullivan got meaningful reps. Corey Graham got meaningful wraps. Trae Sullivan got meaningful wraps result. Douglas. And and and and and this is this. This will be my second point next to Fletcher Cox tonight was playing Hello de NADA who like when right which already laughing receiving nevermind mill. Okay. Hello d-. Who even when? Hello was good. He was not a pass rusher. Right. And he's still good. He's just older. Now, he plays limited snacks or it was Trey Gunn Hester ninety five percent of listeners. Don't know where he went to school is a second year player or was TY McGill, Mike. I didn't even know what MacGill's first name was during this game. I went to treat about him. I resolutely I don't know what his name is T. Right. Because he just t I don't know. And he because he was up practice squad bounce onto the rosters sort of guy. And the Cowboys violated t ram ago, they ran inside zone away from McGill MacGill's, the backside three tech, which means the left tackle Tyron Smith gets to take him and just bulldoze him into a different dimension. And that's what leaves those massive holes where your primary fill player because you're playing cover one with Corey Graham, twenty yards deep pedal. You're probably fill player if that's an empty ciders. Upside is going to be a corner like Douglas chance in both market tacklers eagles. Don't have good tacklers at corner is even Darby's attack. Right. So where's the passwords to pass versus vanishing? Well, number one. I I would be shocked. If Dak Prescott does not again have as all eagle Ponant do a very quick time to throw when number two you can't run twists and games and stunts went. Hello Tanada Trig on Hester tape Trayvon trading on Hester or Trayvon Hester or. TY McGill all your other tackles, right? You need to put one of Brandon Graham or Michael Bennett in there to maintain integrity in your Russians. And once you that you can run on that because you have two hundred sixty yards two hundred sixty pounders trying to hold up against actual big into your office of language ridiculous. Yeah. Mike the eagles. Played a eagles out gained the Cowboys on yards per play basis and hides zero penalties and loss a lot of things going on with the team earlier in the season shooting ourselves in the foot stupid penalties. You can't even play a game like that. And and not come away with w penalties were big reason stalling out I will die on this hill. And I don't care completely alone. The eagles are a check like on paper with everything we understand and can quantify of the sport of football a better team than a four and five team that has lost to the Dallas Cowboys and the Tennessee. Ins and the Carolina Panthers. And whatever you wanna mean like, they are just they are simply a better team than that. Is another thing that I can't emphasize enough when we talk about judging results you can coach a game well and still lose because at the end of the day like good coaching decisions. Don't win games. They increase your probability winning games. The the end of the day. There are still bounces. That are still just like. Yeah. There's XQ execution that also like they're still just luck. You know, what I mean like factors, right? As a fourth down fourth and one run behind Zach ertz, Nelson Agoura high percentage successive to a high percent chance of success. No, probably not. That's where you wanna coaching decision. That increases your probability of success. But like it's not like if you coach well you win it's because you're more likely to win. And so it's it's like a the eagles played all these games. One hundred times played the Cowboys one hundred times at home. Would they lose fifty of the games? Probably not they probably lose less than fifty. They were favored by like nine ten. You know, this is a game. They were expected to win they lost. And that's what happens you only play one game. And you've got to be able to execute in the moment. Philadelphia was unable to overall, and is kind of that overarching look that I wanna talk about from a multi year perspective is this team still in good shape. Oh for sure. Absolutely. You get Howie Roseman. Who's who's fantastic at roster construction in dealing with capping long-term understanding of it knowing how compensatory picks work in picking up veterans who contribute. Michael Bennett with picks that are have very low hit rates in Michael Bennett is giving you ten times more than a fifth round pick most likely everwood. Excellent coaching overall with the Peterson. I feel like I mean Doug on it. He wants to Super Bowl you have a franchise quarterback in Carson wines. You can deal with long-term. This team long-term is fine. And I've always been. Believed that and if this year is a place where we don't make the playoffs after winning a Super Bowl because we have fifty million injuries were playing with chained in trae Sullivan, and Corey Graham, that's fine. Get it fixed. Get it fixed in the offseason come into next season having new season, then we can have discussion if it continues to not be what we expected to be. But at the same time, I mean, how many injuries due have to frigging talk about Anna. Hey, and I hate people that that make the injury excuse all the time we've been dealing with a Thanh man just a ton. There's ability to note. Right. It's this and yes that is exactly. Correct. There's a difference between eight injuries and eight injuries at two positions. Right. Philidal- also interns at one point like coming into the season. If we were coming into the season with those injuries. That's one thing getting an injury right pink pink pink pink, all through the season, totally different. I. Was thinking about it. And I was just sketching it out on a pad. I have not looked like roster's and active game day and who got injured in the middle of a game. Or whatever I'm pretty sure the have not played a game this season where they have had less than four starters out for at least like a decent chunk of the game which like in and of itself sounds like it sucks. But then you look at the fact that up until this game they joined with injuries to their second third safety in their first and second running back for the majority of the season, which okay, like you've you don't like Corey Graham, I agree with you. But and now it is game. Right. You get your third safety back journal lose your second your third corner. And then you lose your first corner in the middle of the game. You wanna meet like they and you still starting on a starting defensive end is out to. Yeah. Right. They say they have they have never like come into the game. It's like, well, the secondary is back to full strength. So we'll see if this improves defenses. Ability. You know what? I mean. It's always been like, all right. This secondary superbeet up. Okay. They've got a few stops early on the game. Ono the games hitting the games getting close they failed here all the time. And let's check yet. Nobody different is out there. You know what? I mean, it's the same like the same players who have struggled in these situations have struggled and then it's Philadelphia with the running game. All right. Carson Wentz throwing the ball forty sometimes again in this match up. You know, what I mean all the third to really used just like quit Bangor to pick up four yards. And no, yeah. I mean, anybody who can run the football like that. So you're super depleted are running back and make sure office dimensional depleted in the secondary. Nullifies the ability repair, rush, it's hard to respect and enjoy the strength of this eagles team because the weaknesses a limit them in such a way that the team still ineffective, generally. And I think the messages you can blame injuries and in you can blame coaching in whatever in L in all shares. Some of the blame overall is gonna look for somewhere to point the finger to like we've. Said multiple times you can pointed at several places and even with all the injuries. This was a game that they should've won in its disappointment, regardless. Even if we're talking about all these injuries. I don't care. This was a gain. This is a team that they were better than is a game at home a must win game. And they did not come out and perform at the level in which you would expect. So again, spread it out spread the blame everywhere point fingers at everyone that makes you feel better. And I think that's what we're gonna do because we're gonna kick it over to three words the at a BGN underscore radio Twitter account as always ask for three words to describe the game from you, gentle listener and Benham hoping you have that pulled up the ac- anything you'll have it open, but we have three hundred responses or something so you also need to pull it up and scroll through some of these Velasco through some of these and then we can both pull out some good ones. Sounds good. I like this. Okay. I would like to begin with this one. Deccan Gish saints at incon-, Brian, which if you're gonna be incognito, Brian don't put your first name. I don't know. One is other replies were but this one starts with twelve reply too late to hit the pied after given zero. And then his three words are that out the bed? Right. And so he replied twelve times in cog. Brian is feeling very passionate about this loss. He would like us to know his thoughts. That's the only thought of his we're gonna get to though 'cause I can't find the other eleven. My son Suman kissed kissed underscore Simeon says that was fun, and I'm assuming he's talking about the season as well. Bryant Coulter at FILA b Coulter says Super Bowl champions in that something that we do have to remember shack this at shack FU says shocked us says this is forwards. I'm gonna let it slide. I respect it says terrible WI fi purchase than in France has plane. He was flying. He wanted to watch the game. So we had to buy the internet access the game. I respected education shack. A hope. You had a good flight. But yeah, I feel bad for that. Here's a couple of like men who your riots at Manu underscored ninety nine you says fed dogs nap, and I really. Okay. Jason Rivera, which we've I've said about before he's still add camel toe in spandex. The only reason I remember him because his at this will here, you ready, you ready. Mike Lombardi correct about what about Doug Peterson? For the most well known the party, take, Mike. Why are you ready? Are you ready to sixteen Dak Prescott rookie of the year that he falls off the cliff two thousand seventy dough Peterson a Super Bowl winning year? And he's got the same fall. That's toe. It's fan dex tag take Mike Lombardi was right. The whole time the whole time we never saw coming while. That's awful. That's an awful take. What are people doing? Okay. JT at Jason. Jason Allen Tucker muzzle. Put your middle name in there. So he can get your whole Christian name in their hiring defensive coordinator. Stop it. Stop it. We're not firing Jim Schwartz right now. I mean, come on like with all the issues we haven't given more than thirty points. Yes. I get that they're collapsing in some some weird situations. But. And like it's every week. We. One nobody could coordinate this defense. There's nobody healthy on it to definitely not in season you five towards no way. That's you wanna bring a coordinator coordinate dismiss. Yeah. Gridlock with three. You have to know that there you have a better defense coordinator than Schwartz who will come in which I think is a van der better David coordinators Schwartz. Obviously, that's a very tall that we're gonna find that patient right time. I think sports is going on for this year anyway regardless, but that's a whole different shout out. If I go guys himself a head coaching job somewhere to solve the problem for me. I shout out to the to lose their Salim at twenty three says tank season, which I found amazing. 'cause that's literally two words fan. We give you three words use all three. And then at day is wild do uses Wilde whose name is behold. Let no it's d u s e is wild. Yeah. Dame's news, but his username is my whole life is thunder, which I feel like wow. Like, I love to hear about your life sometime chat. This is a really good point though. Sproles roster. Spot sproles has not been held since week one. He has not been yard. So Philadelphia's as keeping that roster spot which could be going to a player who can actually be active Denault pump free comes to mind, but in more seriousness, actually good. Devante bows, be could really been used tonight. He's on the practice quad provide the Blunk was played instead of him. Which obviously I think that you're trying to like retain eligiblity practice squads or whatever. But still you know, I thought about me had a good presence had a good camp. If I deserve to be on a roster. So yeah that we're getting the player at it. You would need like a college roster to like that they're their maximum to fill out lesson. I still in my opinion. I've I still crying. He's a guy that you notch. Tired Abbasi is a guy that you want. I just the sproles roster. Spot irks me has literally spent burn spot for ten weeks nine weeks. Now, say McCain's Mormeck, okay? Let's see what will what else we have your shot too. To build g may forever, ever rain. What did he say? Oh, Bill is always just griping with us about the chance. War Mak rosters. This thing his baby. Yeah. Exactly. So here's three words from Doug Peterson the new normal. He said this is the new normal in the press conference after the game. How does that how does cave one context? I have no idea. I just I'm seeing it thrown around all over the place now known giving me any kind of context understand what he's saying that what does he mean by this is the New York that sounds awful just by itself? I'm so confused. What what is losing? I thought women was that winning was supposed to be the new normal. Isn't that what they usually say? Yeah. I thought the whole new normal. It was like after the Super Bowl. He was like this is the new normal. And now he's like, hey, four and five and under performing is also the new normal everything is normal. This is all what we expected. Oh Carson also. Oh word quote. I love the fact that they're really trying to support the podcast Mike, we need to thank them for this. Carson per Rosenblatt of engine dot com. This one hurt. Yeah. I for one did hate losing to the Cowboys more than any other team in the country and in this situation. Ben, man, I'm done. Like, I could say fly eagles fly right now. Just stop and eagles lose twenty seven twenty two the Dallas Cowboys they moved to four and five playoff chances. Reduced to believe. It was eighteen percent. Approximately is what football outsiders was saying coming into this week. It could have been forty three percent of they came out with w they didn't get any help from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers because they're awful they had five red zone trips in six points out of number three points out of those five trips. I don't know they were bad that was bad football that we saw from Tampa Bay Buccaneers either way doesn't matter because his team kit when frigging game against a good or apparently bad team. So here we are thinking about the draft. Right. Like, I'm just. Speaking about the by the way, it's a good thing that me, and you have a bad. About the draft. It may interest you to know, dear listener, agenda listener, who may not know Mike and that well, so I work at the draft network which is the site that literally covers the draft for the whole year. So you should follow us on Twitter at Chelsea and go to our website address dot com. Because we're be like getting questions like all, right? Who the good running back through the good safeties? They're all there. So you can just go in there. And that might where are you doing your drafts of this year? I don't even inside the pylon. I don't know if I'll be doing the inside the pylon draft the draft guide this year. I don't know. 'cause I got I got this now. So that takes up a lot of my time. So I might just do it for a bleeding green nation and produce a bunch of draft content for bleeding greenish in since. That's I mean, that's that's the gig. Now, it's show. But Italy, we we kind of this is what we do. And this is the said, we also do this. But we do this. And we do that too. Whenever you are ready for drafts talk. We have the resources for you. You don't have to start doing it now, obviously, but sound less. We're just talking just words. No one's doing anything. We have been thinking about the eagles needs sense forever ago. And my the two of us. So you should I gas is the kissing select show ventilate for some reason give us five star ratings. We all we all we need, this sucks. Why? 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The Kist & Solak Show #65: Eagles Upset the Bears!

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The Kist & Solak Show #65: Eagles Upset the Bears!

"They. Hi, this is Jim. Check out our podcast step over. We'll be ballers podcast work for all of your Sixers needs layer analysis. Game breakdowns with a colts in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts he'd I tune Stitcher Spotify or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Michael kissed Benjamin, so lag. It's the Kistin Solex show presented by SP and bleeding remission. I am never going to. I'm going to live forever. I haven't been civil age will do nothing to me. I will never wear way disease pestilence. Famine earthquake fun fire the sword invasion, by enemies, civil war. Sudden death. I will never die. I. In high on the kissing Solex show. I have never by the way said anything bad about Trayvon Hester ever ninety two once by accident, not even by slip of the tongue have ever said anything bad about Trayvon Hester. And I believe I even said he would eventually typic- you'll go hit off, right? And. Good. Smallwood decides to superman leave for two point conversion on fake fully special that probably was correct. But was right after golden eagles traded third pay for scoring four touchdowns went back of quarterbacks who Phoenix falls like what do you what do last sixty seconds of that game were psychedelic? They were trippy. I was hallucinating. It was the intersection of forty five cosmic realities don't eight. Eight galions. It's the only way we're all going to live forever and Ben alluded to it. But the eagles win because they're up sixteen fifteen and shreve on Hester partially blocks that ship shot field goal from Cody Parker survive and advance parkey bang. No his name used to plant doing brother. Is every day. Is this a good day to be alive up? Great. I am also in shock. This is amazing hair. Here the candidates for highlights of my day. Number one, Cody parking missing the field goal to may be eagles win number to go on and Tate touchdown on fourth into number three. Mike quick never one recognizing me in the guts of Soldier Field. And like stopping may be like who are you? And I was on bed. So I I really love your podcast when I was like, what did you just say out loud to me? I Mike you been so proud of me. I did the tool like all. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. For sure like people like my podcast habits in my head. I was like these hands caught footballs. And then number four for the potential highlights of my incredibly, very good fantastic day was walking into the locker room and hearing vaunting Matic's, Corey Graham and somebody else linebacker. I can't remember moving their minds over the fact that two nine to Rico in was talking apparently an insane smack after that that kickoff return about how the game was over. And how Valey Joe boys about to go home? We'll guess what tunein you're going home or five I just remembered five which is tweeted about was Brennan Graham was asked what did he like mess with Cody bark at all like in the interim between the first the vice kick that made it and the mistake and Brennan was like, yeah. Bearing grabs a super happy guys always lives. Joe? I thought Cody Cody like don't over. Thank you manage just the game winner. It's all right. Take your time. You know what? I mean. I was losing brand Graham was still have Chris lungs dying next brand Graham, hold time. I'm positive. It's true. I've no doubt in my mind cause brand grams a huge, smacktalk, right? Meanwhile, Jake in said that he was talking a ton of trash just trying to get into his head. So Brandon grandma's like, though, worry both overthinking, you'll miss boy. The best quote about Cody parkey came from Jason Kelsey who apparently allegedly claims did not even know Cody buddy was the kicker of the Rams, which I do not believe. But if that was the case in and of itself Mendes, dude, it was a stellar experience that game from stem to stern, and here's that. I said this on the the preview podcasts for the game. All save here. Again, I really don't care very much. What the film looks like I'm probably picking the eagles to be the saints at this point. I don't know how you can expect this team to lose. I mean, I'm not likely am I saying they're gonna win the Super Bowl kind of like, that's how that works implicitly. But what I mean? More more seriously. Yeah, they're nine point underdogs to the saints. Does anybody think that means anything other than the fact that Philadelphia's absolutely going to take that to heart for a whole weekend to make a narrative out of it? Timmy journey was a spouse in this massive like we've been under dogs all season narrative. Is like objectively not true. But more interestingly just speaks to the fact that like this team is so comfortable in so welcoming being the six seed going into the one senior all like last year they had home field advantage here. They don't honestly it makes it worse. It makes it worse. It makes them nastier. Because now the point spread is even bigger, and they they experienced the antagonizing of the home crowd. It's it's ridiculous. At this team is so tethered to two ideas one that they are underdogs only the people in that locker and believe in them in that makes them strong number two. And this is the big in that Nick foles is winner. I have no idea how you're gonna convince this locker room that letting Nick foles walk slash trading. Make foles is the right idea. I've no clue and it's nothing against Carson. It's just you have to take a team that has at worst finished foreign one in the playoffs with a quarterback at their helm that he is in. Going to stick around. Like that's impossible. You're going to lose your hold on the locker room when you do that as a GM slash coach lash owner slash whatever it is. And then if you come out with Carson twenty nineteen and you start to struggle boy can get real very quickly this team, and you can tell it in the way, they talk about making you can hear it Nick when he talks during his press conference. I sappers press conference. I can't imagine what like anybody who'd be more empowering the play for the Nick foles like it's just when he speaks with so much earnestness, and he so genuine, and he's so interested in the people team like why did you throw the golden Tate forth into I saw Gordon's body language. And it seemed like he was really ready to make a play like how would you not want that? That's extraordinary, right? Just the amount of faith at that is up then I played a whole press conference from Nick foles for BGN radio special because the press conference was so good in. It didn't have much to do about football animal. Like, that's the one thing that Nick foles that has always stood out about him. Just him the purse. And of course, his teammates are going to respond to that only that like like you alluded to they've done it before since his second stint of EBay since being Philadelphia eagle. He is four and one of the play offs not to mention Doug Peterson by the way is four and oh in the playoffs. And I thought he did another masterful job tonight. Let down by some of the execution in the first half. There were five plays that I saw in the first half that were turning points in the game with be third down conversion or a drop in reception by trae Sullivan. They're five points in the game. That didn't go the eagles way that wasn't because Doug you dugout. Coach Neg Doug has never been out coaching playoffs. What to write wit? Like this game ended sixteen fifteen in my opinion should have ended eighteen fifteen confortably. I do not understand the window Smallwood confirmed or stand. Whatever was the ref is unclear a default. Like we were told from I'll always buy every commentator if the front nose of the ball touches the way touchdown. I mean to me I was very clear, but whatever Shelvin eighteen fifteen youth on the fact that trae Sullivan drop. What was the easiest interception of all time as eighteen twelve. And Nick foles, Chuck's a very dumb prayer into the end zone into quadruple coverage. I mean at eighteen six this is what we're talking about here. In terms of like the eagles outplayed the bears significantly end the scored as reflect that but this team in the playoffs is very very good. They execute incredibly wealth so many clutch play so many clutch receptions off of line is clearly taking a step forward in endure die games because you can translate it back into the end of the regular season. No team gets up for them like kill at all. And they're about to get a New Orleans Saints team who embarrassed them the lowest point of their season New Orleans coming off of a bye now going to be doing with the ex Super Bowl champions on a four-game heater six of the last seven being at their best. We have played their best football when they are underdogs. I I'm not ready to say yet. 'cause I want to. Into the film, but Mike I could easily see a game not dissimilar to the Vikings game of the playoffs last year. I could very easily see the eagles walking into New Orleans and only beating him. Panting him for four fours to me. It's not even remotely out of the imagination. I think the twenty seventeen twenty eighteen eagles ever got his hot as this team. Is right now they broke the barrier of the playoff win. They did it. They are now one of the four teams remaining left the NFC when the eighteenth remaining left who would want to play them at a lot of people said that Seattle was the most dangerous like wildcard team out of the four wildcard teams. It's obviously Philadelphia when they believe in themselves like this, how can you how could you want to play the defending Super Bowl champion when they just came out and outplayed the bears for sixty frigging minutes when nobody gave them a chance on the road. And they're gonna keep doing it. It's it's incredible. What this team has become since week fourteen when they were all but declared dead with a point six percent chance to make it's improbable. That were here. This team knows it's playing with house money. This team knows that everyone is doubting them. This team has been in this situation before and that means a ton for this team moving forward. Nobody on the eagles team right now is playing better football. The recycled Ugglas, what am fricking game was what that you are know how good of a gamer so had think about the times Douglas targeted. That's how goodly you can't think of it. Right. And Trubisky was looking at why they tried to go that way so zone, man. Coverage was fantastic quiet game for corners of the strongest gains corners like Mattis had allowed game. See you have some good blaze any ads mad blaze. Why gave us Douglas rule out of his mind Nigel Branam who started the season poorly index will game flying around the football. And Brad him. I didn't realize I was watching is their dime. Linebacker there. One linebacker sets. He is the linebacker on the field. He plays that roll over does. They said that's been going on since Hicks back from injury. So like Rodham was taken. That role when Hicks down. He's kept its six game back. Yup. Fantastic. Play in that regard. And then I think you had Brennan grim had several pressure something like that. He writes, I think that you have a little bit too much right now going into the like Ling Johnson. And and Jason shot Khalil Mack down. I don't really think they did. I think Khalil Mack had some winds and the ball got out. I think had some wins. And the, you know, there was an escape or whatever got some Wednesday led to like quarterback hits in like, you know, affected balls or whatever generally MAC didn't have a statute filling day, whatever. But I think the lane Johnson Jason Peterson gets a little bit bumped up in that regard. But it's what the what we talk about. All the time. The eagles a very good job of taking your best guy in limiting him through one way or another whether it be through security, whether it be through lane Johnson doing well against him Jason Peters or just by getting the ball quick or rolling away from him or like for instance, they did on that slice Zakar. It's having Erz block him for doubt use his yard them. Right up to quote, the me. That's that's bad way of saying that what we said. Podcasts. I'm very happy to to lockdown Cleal MAC and make a keen Eddie Goldman beat us and listen Hicks, did his darndest to beat us Hicks played out of his Ma. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He makes Akeem like Fletcher Cox had a great game mechanics. Had a better game better player. Akeem heck's was the best defensive lineman on the field tonight for either team takeaway MAC, you make akiem Hicks beach you and then it keeps. Yeah. Sure. He stuff in the run of the eagles are very unproductive in the running game. But he's not a guy who's going to have the same password. Perfect. That Khalil Mack is. And now all of a sudden, you have the ability to work the football. Yeah. There were times were Nick foles couldn't step up into the pocket earlier in the game, especially because it came Hickson Eddie Goldman. We're getting such good push. And just a quick shout out to this eagles defense as well. The bears early on his game. We're trying to attack the seems against cover one in cover three and they had some success, but crave on the Blunk a dog on good game. Had that big rebound at the end of the first half. He played really well the defense played really really well against those concepts. It wasn't till later on where the stuff that the bears had said up then they started running the the slug oh against it. Or they would run that bubble right? That fake. Bubble where you get the ending behind it. Right. And I'll tell you I'll tell you what the number one from them with that sort of thing is not trying to defend Maddox here or call back to a trope, which is really is the way that I think has work in regard. You want your corner to play aggressively into a ghost screening one in the playoff field into like if he died noses it great. But generally you just wanted to key in play on otherwise they're gonna pick up four yards on the bubble screen every plane, you're screwed because you want the vice tackle situation went inside outside leverage. Right. When you when you when you've got a slug. Oh, will you want your off corner? Who's a smaller guy to have to play grass if into that that's his strength. Listen, if you like Maddux having that near pick on the sideline where he should have caught it incredible play great Clinton close. Then you have to be okay with him giving up the touchdown gave up because it was very similar outbreaking route concept Mattis went to go close on it. And then once he felt the out on upcoming you tried to recover got the whole bassin appearance and it was a touchdown. Obviously. With time you become better picking your spots become better at situation understanding when it's going to be album out. But I'm just saying like, you know, you have to live and die by the sword a little bit. But when it comes to a lot of those isolation multi break rows, those go screens all that outside stuff. It'd be really really really helpful to have a free safe. You can take angle and Corey Graham can't take angle. I mean, they tried to play with trae Sullivan high for as much as they could in the second half. But eventually they had to be putting Graham up there and let LeBlanc play on the on the on the field in in nickel sats. They started. The game off LeBlanc off the field three safety sets, but Sullivan is such liability as a tackler end in coverage that they had to go back to the Blunk came out in the second half. And they're trying to leave trae Sovan single, high Graham jank is up in the field Maddox, and and what's his name Madison pursual and that'll be our solution. And they're not able to do that. So they gotta get Sullivan off the field. Put Corey Graham back there in Graham, just for the life of. Him can't get to the sideline. He just he's not at this point fast. He doesn't take good enough angles. You want your corner to play tight into that. Like go screen, for example, two verticals coming up. The field man's goes to split them. Which is a good way a protein that and then obviously behind him. But when you have a more proactive free safety can get connected to the sea than your corner can drop off their to the boundary vertical. And then you can make a better coverage opportunity over it. And they simply don't have that range of free safety right now. The biggest issue on the defense right now is is their ability to play single hind who's who's gonna be out there? That's obviously going to be something that you have to watch against the saints in the saints have a wide receiver. Michael Thomas that nobody has the bears don't have should say that being said Philadelphia went up against you under Hopkins. Anything a fantastic game plan for him. It was not dissimilar to the game plan. They had against Michael Thomas. However, they were much much more willing to code bracket. You know, top bottom Michael Thomas against the saints. And then also they wanted to double in bracket album. More on that left them one on one everywhere. Little safety help. I think they have to bracket. Thomas Nafti, more comfortable blamed, Kamara one when we when we move forward. Yeah. I mean, the the problem was and we can talk about it. As we go into the previews. But the problem was there was you bracket these two guys. And then the other guys don't win their match ups because at secondary was not with that secondary. Looks like now and Brad him was playing like he's playing like now as far as linebacker plays in coverage too. So the guys were able to win their individual matchups. They want a lot of their individual matchups this game. And I was watching the game with south galena. We were doing that booth casting where we basically the booth for the game. They were saying there's not there's not a whole lot there downfield for Trubisky right now. And he's anything that is there. He's really not saying and I wanted to kind of dial back to because this game was about two quarterbacks being put in bad situations. The eagles ran twenty three times for forty two yards. The bears are in eighteen times for sixty five yards. Like there was nothing there on the early downs especially for the running game for either team. And like you look at the stat line for Mr. Bisky, and it looks okay. Twenty six. Or forty three three hundred three yards and a touchdown. But he for very long stretches of this game was not throwing it very well and should have been picked off. And which should have been picked off a couple of times. And what's crazy is the eagles? And this is something we did not expect I said Trubisky the the eagles absolutely one of the keys to the game. Have to take advantage of the fact that Trubisky is going to throw them a couple. He threw them a couple. They did not pick them off. However, the eagles turned the ball is bears. Two zero tides in the eagles win. What what world by the way? How was your your broadcast because I didn't get to listen to it, obviously guitar. Oh, dude. It was amazing, man. Seth we. I thought we crushed it, man. I I had a blast doing it. And getting to announce the game losing field goal double poster. A just fantastic experience. I had the time of my life. I was letting 'cause I was in the slack channel. I was hitting veal g in re probably the channels while. I don't know if you've seen folksy revisit just say, man, I can't imagine kiss, right? Outgoing nuts over these interceptors. It was. His number one thing coming into the game was like listen. Why Trubisky gives them to you catch up and they drive out to Hugh ones. But it seemed like Maddux is like his left. Everytime said I keep seeing the replay. And I keep wanting to see that left foot. Just just dragged into foot. Never came down and trade, celebrating his chest rain is chess. And I'm thinking you this is on the first half these or the plays. You absolutely have to make a now you're trillion halftime you have to put your Bisky behind because you wanna put it on him. And they didn't make those plays in the first half in it cost them and they were down at the half six to three. And I'm thinking this game should be totally different right now. It should be totally different. Now L things turn out. Well, but mandatory Bisky give us some chances. And he was not good Trubisky through some seeds. Right. He had some great rose to there was some in for sure now. So he had a third along third-down comeback that he put in a really good and Corey Graham collision but the ball rive on time. It was a catch. That was Taylor. Gabriel. Right. Yeah. That was the next play was it was a downfield route down Robinson where he had huge window. And he was put it in there to me. It's not really a high quality throw. And then he had the touchdown on the hour enough to against Mattis, which was a fine throws through again into space, and you left it a little bit behind that CRA. Von the blonde pass breakups should have been. Touchdown that ball was last a little bit behind. He had another pass breakups situation where he left the ball a little bit behind. And then on the the penultimate drive for the bears as well. He had our notion me the drive the final drive. He had the one good throw. But generally speaking he was inaccurate. He was he had poor placement. He was thrown cashable balls. But he wasn't have great place. Relative to coverage for the entirety tonight. And not unlike Shawn Watson with whom he came out in the class. If he's in his I read a little pump fakes multi break routes gather protection. Great when he has to move his fee and adjust to a second target. It's really just not there for him when he has to think right completely freezes up. It's and it's why this we we've complained about this many times. Nothing drives me crazy when eagles defence is playing. Well, and the second is getting pass breakups in this pressure. And then there's some easy completions. And offenses to move on the eagles and played people. Ask for the past brushes nine times out of ten the pass. Rush is exactly where it's. Did. But the I read is being taken away. Like if you want your team to be a pass rush successful team who wins on defense because of the pass rush. Literally. Like, the what's the number one thing you need to pass rush. The ability take with I read because that's it sense teams know that the Philadelphia Eagles are going to try to beat them in the past rush. Then try to get pressure on them. They're trying to win with four trying to rush the quarterback. That's how defense wins. They're going to try to feed the ball of the first have a low time to throw we've talked about this thousand times, so bash rush was there for four quarters fashion. Never went anywhere of automatic started getting burned and again a vantage of applying stellar football rookie fourth round corner. Who's out there playing outside corn after you played free safety after his supposed to be a slide in camp? So like, it's okay. Those shots were really well set up by Nagy like they really push those slight. They're hitting them slight flat, slam slam flat getting them getting them to bite on them. And then they hit him over top. I mean, they really that those up. Well, but now, I fully agree in the sense that you're Bisky had the flashes that excites you. A lot of developments left there to be done. And if we flip it now foles I thought this was probably the worst game Vos is played in the second half of the season. In terms of his chargers game was better Houston, Texas game was absolutely better the Rams game. So Rams game Texas game Redskins. This is worse. Game. Eagles one does great situation is really right. When your team can win when your quarterback doesn't have a great day lake now, a foles plays better the rest of the team places way. Sick. The eagles are going to be like a continually stellar dean, which they have been there were five legitimately five plays that turned this game. They got to a first down conversion the bears did on a penalty. There were two in one drive or drop interceptor five point to that could turn the tide. And at the very least turned the game script in this game for that to happen in the first half for a team. That's a big underdog and to still come up with the win if they play clean game. They can beat a lot of teams in the NFL right now. I would say just about all of them again. Like, how could you? I. On page turnovers. Two turnovers Ealesy loss turnover battle by two. How dare lost to turn over and law lost turnabout law won the turnover battle and lost all year. I that's crazy. They were undefeated. We're gonna turnover battle this year. And as you mentioned they were the best defense in the league creating turnovers. So like. Why don't we will never die like invincibility? Turning from from Zuhdi at Trubisky to foles the offensive game plan wise, I was ranting a little bit about this during the game worth ranting about it here. Mike, we love twelve personnel. And always when we talk about personnel. It often gets conflicted with formation like, oh, this is like a twelve percent formation. You don't have to have certain formations out of twelve personnel. Why that important distinction because personnel in and of itself is indivisible. It's not like. All right. Twelve percent of the is gonna win. It's twelve personnel. This is generating the matchups that the eagles want. The eagles played very little twelve personnel tonight, which we talked about the bears being a team that face very little twelve persona as we said could be good because Phil if you come out and give them a bunch of looks. They don't know come out force them to stay in base. Keep third linebacker on the field, which number forty seven. They're outside linebacker, Isiah Irving was the guy who came out quite often for them. And then they can attack him that regard or maybe on film. They've seen with bears doing is twelve personnel. That don't wanna go out there like that. We talked about. Alshon Jeffery me have a big game because the bears are gonna give you backside man coverage. And if you can take advantage of that win those one on one match up, you can move the football. And we saw some of that. Yeah. So Philadelphia won that match very clear. The entire first drive was backside man beaters Hofer strive which was really cool to see because I was like, yeah. That makes sense not they ran the whole drive out of eleven whatever it was that. They wanted to get on the field for the bears a team that lost their slug quarantine injured. Reserve team who was putting out there, you know, charity McManus was out there for a little bit. He went down John who's Houston. Carson fourth safety added come out there for a little bit play some coverage reps. He was able they're able to pick on him eleven personnel Gotha the match if they wanted the backside man coverage and after that first drive was the bears had stayed in one one coverage on the backside constantly they started leaving the safety on top of that not true double coverage. But instead of rotating to cover one rotating match coverage to like three. Reside. They stayed in true split field. So they had a little bit of help over the top of that one receiver. Philadelphia responded with a few more outbreaking rows of humour just like little quakes last stay in front of that safety. But Philadelphia was able to get that backside matchup for the whole game in a wasn't just differ either. 'cause I mean, they saw with no sin to on that on that comeback for the first down as well. So they were getting it with guys Zakar multiple times. Acuras back. There is an isolated flex tight end. And then you have them doing that. Then Philadelphia on the final drive comes out significantly more twelve personnel. But maybe running for the whole game. Right. When they're when they're down by five and they're coming out with nub tight end sets, which means three wide receivers off to one side or was in a tight end off to one side off the formation. And then one time end in line on the opposite side, no wide receiver outside of Minogue tight end. Very very very very very frequently forces teams into coverage because it's truth run and pass strength reads. The running back on the same side as that. Now, you've got two receivers potential to that side. And you know, you're getting usually cover through look to that side and Philadelphia walked up the field. They had the little screen completion. Dallas Qatar incredible cash. They had insane. Zach earth's catch as well. On that drive where he caught it when he was in traffic, and he was dealing with all that nonsense. And then they also have the Nelson galore catch run, which was a little flat. I a flat ideas. Well, they very heavily leaned back on the cover three curl flat conflict. Concepts that we've been talking about even writing about from bleeding green on that final drive out of personnel. Look like what they done all season because they knew they could get the match ups. They wanted to in terms of forcing the bears into that zone. Coverage. Eddie Jackson, playing was absolutely huge in that regard. So personnel is valuable in that it dictates matchups matchups are team specific they are game specific Philadelphia's twelve personnel numbers likely for the first time in five weeks will be going down into the game. They will be they will be on the decrease. But Philadelphia got the match ups. They wanted with six three Sean Jeffrey against five eleven six foot. Kyle fuller and prince amukamara, and they want them in here able to move the football in that regard. So yes, we can't be twelve personnel. Because we love the match of nightmares. Creates the match of nightmare for this game. As we discuss on the podcast was that backside man coverage Philadelphia identified it and attacted that's great offense game planning like we said, baby. Doug Peterson doesn't get out coached the playoffs. At a lot of those who tight end sets. We saw the why wing double wing that like the running. They were trying to punch of runs of the middle. All of those were just getting stuff by game Hicks, Eddie Goldman to relate than had a good game. Roquan Smith with the interception, which wasn't fulls as fault. Like, you could nitpick and say he could he could put it out a little bit in front of Smallwood, but roquan Smith came in rip the ball at the ball. Just lands in his in his laughing. That was a I thought that was foes fall for sure foles luck. I read saw the God. It was capped going down the scene and immediately turn to his check down burp the baby which basically bra roquan Smith right to it. And then through an an Acura bowel was inaccurate. But it was like an egregious throat in go right to Smith. It went to Smallwood first roquan Wintel rip it out. And just so happens that land on front of you know, in him. It wasn't a interception worthy. Throw in my mind. I didn't like the whole process, but you get what I'm saying. It's not I session where. Session where they find some really through throat right to win into small woods breadbasket. Then I'm just saying like it was it was I compared it to the earth's interception three against Houston where he just led the seeking to his check down over a it was a more accurate throw. Absolutely. The taxes was more. Inaccurate. I'd go whatsoever. But if you're gonna lead the linebacker down to the check down to lead him down to the curb. I'm a hit clear where you're gonna go better ball. That's all I'm saying on Bono. Yeah. No. I'm not saying it was perfectly accurate. I'm saying if you wanna make picket than yeah. It wasn't a great throw. So fun fact. Yeah. Philadelphia ran the exact same route concept. They ran against the bears in twenty seventeen scored touchdown and is on a game twenty eighteen spot the spot concept with the comp around instead of the quarter out which would normally come this concept. Yes. Which finding on my time line, we we can describe it or you can find on my time. I one of the two whichever you wanna do I retweeted as well. On my time line to great job Dallas gutters at the top of that route. So what you have is those two short routes spread out and you get that horizontal stretch. And then you get the vertical stretch you've got the match up with Goddard and Adrian MO's. And of course, we're gonna you know, this is a little all twenty two that we usually save for the all twenty two show, but it was awesome. Play by Goddard at the top of his route being physical turning his man Amos towards the outside. And then having access to all of that space to the inside good trust row by by foles. I think he let it go before he got out of that break. So really awesome to see Dallas Goddard coming through in a big moment in the playoffs. And also the eagles using concepts that have worked for them in the past that they used very sparingly. I will say you see the pop up every now and then but Doug Peterson dialed that one up, and it was a winner for him again as it typically is with that concept. So Ben anything else you want to get to before we go to three words ninety why they kick the ball. To to recount made. No sense to me at all. And it was short and was high and he caught on the run. And I'm thinking that's not a great idea. The last the opposite of things you want to do a day. Sean hall had had them and just completely whiffed on them. But then having to Recode in is that really often, you don't, you know? Right. I think that what did what did you think about this? The before the eagles scored the touchdown going into the phone good. They call a time out. They have three time out there on the two yard line. They have three timeouts if they don't make that fourth down conversion they still have three times to us to try to get the ball back. They said note, they call a time out. They were all in on that and committed from that moment like this is it sure. But if you feel like you don't have the play out up, right? And you want to have a conversation about what your veteran quarterback is seeing the call the time out. I mean, we're talking about tailgate you the fourth down you get three stops you. Call three times, I'm out probably get the background your own forty. With less than fifty seconds left with no timeouts trying to score touchdown again. You know what? I mean. Like, I it was very in the spirit of the Philadelphia Eagles under Doug Peterson to call time out and win the game on four th to like, that's what you do your down. There. Most score. You know what? I mean, the first and second down runs two things number one. Yes. You run on first and second down. Absolutely to me. That is an on question decision force the bears. You there timeouts if you can't score and third in two fourth day. You suck you should lose. As never to foles had the option to kill kill to a pass. If you wanted to it might have even been a pass originally he'd kill kill to a run. He was unclear in the presser, but he had the option to run or pass depending on the defense of look and both times he wanted to run and that was the best luck. And also it's worth noting. It's only a kneel down you can score on a running Blais. They didn't which is rising bears run defenses. Fantastic. I'm on. I'm not saying that. But you absolutely run those place and shortly after the third. Down failed score. Yeah. Everybody was getting a little skittish about that. I'm sure if they had us go forth out there have been huge question about it. But ninety nine times out of free. You absolutely run Navan for second down. You have to take the bears timeouts away. And they got down to thirty five and take the time to timeouts definitely not at all questioning the first two runs for this for the reasons that you stated you let the clock run. Let them use their timeouts. I mean, I was wondering at a minute thirty of the bears were gonna start calling their timeouts, and they let it run down even more. And I was like, yeah. Absolutely. You run the ball for the first couple of times there to take that time down make them user timeouts. Put Trubisky in a worse situation and put on him. And I agree the faith that you have that you're gonna make it on fourth down is incredible. So yeah, if you wanna have the right play call in there for foles, and it was really just a matter of Tate's on McManus. Tate's got leverage on throwing it's nice easy. Half field. Read the ball's gonna take him into the end zone by. Nature of the the Canucks everything. So. Yeah. Agree with that. I just thought it was strange when they first called the tight out on like, well, this is it right here. There is no second chance. There is no coming back from this. You're gonna have to live or die by this decision. That's what Doug Peterson has always done. So I agree with you there. Ben. Let's get to three words, obviously, the first one from Joe hashtag grow gotta go at show g for three the double dunk. Then let me tell you my butthole got so tight when it hurt it when a halo I post, and then I saw it hit the second one. Unlike the camera did like like a jerk thing, you couldn't tell which way the ball was moving with was going forward or backwards. And you just see it land in the grass in front of thing. Wouldn't incredible experience? Oh my God. Trayvon Hester, the second highest graded defensive player in the second half of the season for some rally death row that bag. Jamie FOX at Gerry, and then a bunch of stuff who's our our friend military friends says join doing game, which is a very good description because that kick took a year and a half the fall serve. And especially when I was watching when when when it hit the crossbar. Oh, it's going off the crossbar. Why do enough across bar one hundred going by Ronning gyro who's become a favorite? He was funny joke. Agile what Greece the polls, which we don't have any home playoff games this year, but Greece polls, anyway, we're probably gonna cause problems of and then also which is wonderful to me are cousin Vinny at the big kit sleeper agent Codey, which I really wanted. Chase Daniel's the end of this game said it could have been chase. Daniel Cody parkey, paying back the eagles for their misplaced faith in them. And losing the game for the bears parking was enough there to in here with pictures attached. That are pretty funny. Rodney Jackson at buffalo. Bernie. Looks so familiar in. It's a picture of Sean McVay with his mouth like wide open in amazement as we're really kick. Things off for the eagles. Al filling ham at L filling ham by bears, and it is a picture of everyone's celebrating. And also Jeffrey is looking to the crowd waving to them his former Lana place of employment. But when you another good picture what Mattie France, seventy seven Matija franscisco. No one no words. It us zero to three words, but he's got Sandra Bullock's per box blindfold recorded Parke's on fair to Cody because the ball was tipped. But it doesn't change the fact that it's kind of funny Ridgewood at teddy underscore Ridgewood tickled SCR abyss. That's interesting. I like that mesh toys, really, what was the name that. You're all. No. Yeah. No. No. That was. Yeah. Till new brisk. That's what it was. Now, he's not at full Ticha level yet. I'll be to see what happens has there. Been some who've suggested that the bears are gonna follow a similar trajectory and twenty nineteen as the Jaguars twenty eight. Eighteen in terms of they have an inconsistent quarterback behind them. Right. Got a lot of their successes. He's was predicated on defense, which is not a super sticky season to season strength. Like defense doesn't always carry into the next season as well. I would argue at the biggest difference. There is going to be the play designs of Matt Nagy who I really think is tremendous young coach that's gonna make a difference for the bears, but tickle tickle has not yet into existence. He still Mitch Trubisky. Only barely he is not yet risky think about this. This is still goes we talk about Mr. Bisky allot McGee him some crap. This is still Mitch trubisky's to sophomores campaign. It's his first year with this new offense and less in which I talked about I playoffs star quarterbacks. I plas advice for three this year. I mean, it's very very listen. You wanna who else losses? I playoff start. Nick foles. Von hasn't lost a playoff start sense. Nick foles. Hero. Oh, man. I'm telling you. It's really hard not to buy into this team. Even as a fan, not gone Lee man is covering the seem is an amazing experience. There's so many surprises around every corner, and they make you they just pull you in dude, they pull you in. We thought this team was dead dead dead. I tell you and yet here we are going into the divisional round playoff game against New Orleans. Saints van Admiral cramp is poor kids at frozen with awe. Instead of an says Brent this is Owen the birds Runcie's go marching in against the rules. I knew to kid against this every time none has no messing around. I lend for me syllable slide sometimes, but no don't you dare. That seven words UNIFIL. Anybody by changing how you presented it. You watch yourself. Mitchell at I'm not Jeffrey brings this up which I think is is crucial talk about the new norm. Doug Peterson such good head coach. So good for no else. Baby team is impossibly. Well, prepared right. Like you. They talk about what went into that fourth to call in the amount of work that they went into that call and the the relationship he's got with foale's out there in the belief that he's gonna Tate who obviously hasn't had a great tenure Philadelphia. I mean dogs just stellar stellar head coach man what a fantastic coached game from Monday to Sunday. You know, what I mean, just like in terms of preparation execution in a moment, man. It's fun watching this team. It's on watching Doug go, a member member many people were positive he sucked like a month ago. But it's fine. What's crazy is? This is the second time. He's done this with his team. When all was lost last year after went down. The one consistent strong voice was Doug Peterson. And I was shocked with how calm and cool. He was about everything. It's just who he is. Emotional in. Let's go Ben. He's a chip Kelly with a heart. Thank you as always for listening. So I show here on ESPN radio the Mike quick approved syndicated PGN radio guest. And so like show shut out. What a tremendous game. What a tremendous time. 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BGN Radio #41: Grading the Offseason

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BGN Radio #41: Grading the Offseason

"You're listening to BT and radio. Why would you listen to any other eagles test with John Stolnis in randomly gal? Hello, bleeding, green nation and welcome back to BG and radio. This is episode number forty one. I'm John Stolnis from bleeding green nation dot com. You can follow me on Twitter at John Stolnis. Boy. Oh boy. Do we have a lot to get to here on episode number forty one? It is a free agent fest. The NFL hot stove is insane. As somebody who covered the baseball hot stove in depth over the last four months, the two things could not be any different thicker league baseball. That's dope. And the NFL hot stove are completely different. And the NFL. Hot stove is one crazy crazy forty eight seventy two hour period where we get the tampering and all that stuff and joining me to break down everything the eagles have done. The eagles are going to do. And we'll take a few minutes. Laugh at one of the eagles division rivals as well is the man behind bleeding green nation dot com. May he forever reign Brandon league out, and you can follow him on Twitter at Brandon Gallen? Beal gee, have you gotten any sleep lately? What is that? What what does that time of day when you rest and get restorative or the next day? No, no, definitely doesn't happen for ever. Let alone this time of year. Bahaman it's been fun. It's a good trade off not really good for my health. What good as in terms of entertaining and fun time of year. And yes, we have all the coverage obviously at leading greenish dot com as well as kissing select going great job with the with their shows and the new to John doing great job with the VDI memory show because their return to Philadelphia. So we have a lot to talk about here. Let's jump right in. Absolutely. And I do think it's interesting that you know, as as I was watching tweet deck on Monday when free agent tampering period began, and it just became. News by fire hose, it just everybody was getting Daleus with one signing after another in a trade here in signing there and rumors just going everywhere. People were complaining about all the Levy on bell. Rumors and false starts if you weren't paying attention to the Bryce Harper. Manny Machado stuff, you don't even know. I mean, the lady on bell stuff was was child's play that got that got resolved in a week that was super duper quick. And so a lot of different players changed hands it moved to different team sign with different scientists with different teams and kind of funny Bill I wonder if there are people out there who on Monday weren't glued to their tweet deck all day. Like, there are people who just went to work and they got done late in the afternoon or early evening, and they drove home, and maybe they had dinner with their family. And then afterwards, maybe maybe mom or dad or one of the kids home after school decided they want to they wanted to see what happened in the world of football that day 'cause they know it's a busy day. And so they get on their old, computer. And and check everything out doesn't that sound nice. That's not my existence. But I think that sounds nice. I mean, those people sound like complete losers to me. I mean who doesn't wanna be fourteen hour straits blogging all day long in to me that is a real winner at obviously being myself and the rest of the crew at ingred greed nation, helping me out doing a great job Alexis been kissed Ali all the people Tyler Lee, everyone everyone who is on our team has certainly made this a good experience. And yeah, it's this fun, man. It's it's just a fun time of year. You know, so many podcast leading up to this point. We've kind of been talking about like what could happen. I feel like I was ending every episode with Bryce Harper, please signed soon just worried about that kind of stuff. And now NFL free agency starts on the day of legal tampering. You know, when really in the past last year, he was active but years before that it wasn't even as active. This year is very active user did really the bulk of their stuff on that day. So again. Somebody here. Let's jump into it. Then let's go and we'll start with the most recent. And that was the eagles signing linebacker Eljay four to three year ten million dollar deal. Be J really last year was the best season of his career forty eight tackles three for laws one sack and fifteen games. Two starts played twenty nine percent of the snaps on defense. So not a guy who played every down or even third of the downs based on snap count. But PF graded him nineteenth out of ninety six linebackers in two thousand eighteen and I know our own Michael kissed had been pounding the table for Eljay Ford. So talk a little bit about the addition of this linebacker. I mean, I think this was a position the eagles at least had to get a little bit more depth than or you have upon is terrible. But I really have to say that I think this kind of player holds down the fort for the eagles, Wisconsin. I know it was I didn't wanna do it. I mean, obviously, I know I didn't want to but I had to end I legitimately thing. It's true too. I don't think this is like you're not signing Eljay for it. Because he's a soup. For star. And you're adding him to defense. He's a twenty nine year old journeyman, essentially the way, although he's kind of I think there's some untapped potential potentially to be had with him. He's only started three games in this career. But he's been a sub package player. He had his best year last year in two thousand eighteen with the Steelers and by all accounts from Steelers fans who have watched him, and obviously my who kissed as well, they feel like you know, he is due for a bigger role. He might be able to take that on. So we'll see he'll be competing with Nason, Gary and Alwar low income groups a hill, and if you will bring in a linebacker in the draft beyond day three the be competing with them too. So that's good. And that's fine. Like you didn't need to resign. Jordan Hicks at the number. He got from the Zona cardinals. I love Jordan Hicks. I tell you. I was one of his biggest fans in Philly injuries. Even still, you know, I really liked him. But like that was just too much overcome e couldn't keep him. I just think it wasn't realistic especially for the pricey got by Aaron ah. I'm happy for him. Maybe paid. I hope he does well out. That'd be great love to see it. But for the I think it was time to move on. You know, they obviously get the potentially fourth-round Compaq for him too. So that's good. But yes, uranian Eljay for they're bringing a stopgap kind of player who by the way friend of the podcast and for Videon writer and dot com writer now might K said that he heard that L J four is going to be in the mix there or could be the favourite potentially for that starting middle linebacker job. So I thought that was a little bit of rally thing thing to note. Yes. So kind of file that one away. We'll see you know, this time last year. We also heard that Corey Nelson was in the mix for a starting job in. He didn't even make. Forget paid more than coin Nelson did so he's gonna be making the team. But it's just you don't know, you don't know this early. But I like the addition they needed to do something there when you lost Jordan Hicks, obviously. Because you just didn't really have a whole lot of options there outside of just Nigel. Batum starting at linebacker. So I like that one it's not it's not a one, you know, Fanta. The Fanta can get excited about his let's be real like who knows that guy. I oh, man. It's not CJ Moseley or anything like that. It's not a big move. But it's fine. It's a fine move. And he's also a great special teams player in this something that fans in I think we overlook a lot of times special teams because we really the NFL has gone out of their way to devalue kickoffs just about every kickoff as touchback in. Punt returns are still getting a good. Punt returner is is still important and having good punt coverage is important. But it's not as important as it used to be. I don't remember many plays at all this year. Whether it was eagles games are just around the NFL were big punt returns swung games. It was just not that kind of. Year in the NFL. Nevertheless dough is special teams is still important in. He's a guy that can obviously contribute in that way. A big contributor in Pittsburgh last couple years again on special teams and at the linebacker spot. So I was going to say you you mentioned that he could be in the mix for the middle linebacker spot. We know that the eagles defence most of the time plays in nickel. Anyway. So you're basically going to have to linebackers on the field probably most of the time on. So you've got Nigel Brad m there you've got comma GRA, Jay hill. And you've got got no Eljay fort is that enough for you right now. That's enough for me, if I degrade the signing just even agreed because we like arbitrary things. Great stall the stuff. Yeah. I'll give it like a be a solid B. I mean, it's be move again. Not something super exciting. But it solid you filled in the I think, you know, with what they have there. It's not a tone, not necessarily feeling great about it. But you kind of said that they're like, I'm backers really aren't what this team builds around. Like, that's not the that's not the mo-. The main priority is building through. The offensive line. And then they've obviously invested at the safety position to Malcolm Jenkins and rining clout like those are the areas more so where they've been in. Obviously they've had a third safety the past couple of years to Corey Graham. So those are more of the areas that they want Jim towards specifically. I remember him talking in press conferences before about how he just feels like the NFL is trending towards more coverage it being passing league. And he wants guys out there who can cover more in. You know, typically, those guys are more defensive back styled, and you even see that in a couple of years linebackers with Nathan, Gary and Camaguey hill both being former safeties playing linebacker. So what they went there, and yeah, they really us really as you said us two linebackers for most of the time. Anyway, it's not really a base defense where you're paying all three out there. So you have your two now they'll j for Nigel Batum, and then comet will mix in there. We'll see if Gary can step up at all. And this year, I mentioned he gonna draft a guy day three because he comes in and compete so to. That's fine enough. You can get by with that aren't the big move that everybody was talking about. And it was the focus of the BGN memories podcast that I did four was eagles trading for Sean Jackson from the buccaneers. And it would been a rumor for. Number ten and MAC Hollins is willing to give up his number ten for Sean Jackson, which is just I think all eagles fans. I think knows Matt Collins that something on Twitter. I think we stood in front of the Geico gecko in FIA saying I've saved you guys you could save fifteen dollars or more on your jersey sales or purchases or whatever. Because you fill fans are gonna have to go out and buy New Jersey's you can take those number tens if you if you didn't burn them when Sean left and really why would you have? But some fans do that kind of thing. But if you didn't throw them away or burn them, pull them back out pull them back out of the closet. They're just as good now as the day you bought them Jackson coming back to Philadelphia had been rumored for a couple of weeks. Just seem like this marriage was to perfect not to happen. I spoke to the media on Thursday about being a leader in the locker room now that he's thirty two. And you know, I just I love bringing him back here because I do think he's probably more mature. I think he's going to be in a lock. Room with a head coach that has the emotional intelligence like Andy redid I think to handle Sean Jackson in anything that might pop up. And I think he realizes he's at a different stage in his career. Now Beal g he knows he's not the number one wide receiver. But I think he knows what his role in this team is going to be. And I think he knows he's got a quarterback that can doom do the things that are necessary to elevate his game. And take advantage of all the skills. He brings to the table. I love the movie Jay if I have to this one I'm giving a right? I mean, they gave up anything to get him. You trade this year six for Sean and the buccaneers seventh next year. So you're really only, you know, swapping those picks around and then a year out. So you're barely gave up anything to get him. And are getting a guy who fills your biggest need and has it's been a big need for while. What would we always talk about last season? As one of the biggest issues with the team it was lack of team speed. And that manifested itself in the lack of. Big place they generate but he plays. It was. So like everything they did an offense was so painful to watch in the sense of like it was had to be so methodical. They never came easy, or at least too often did not come easy to them. And when you get to Jackson. That's exactly what happens. It does come easy all of a sudden near making big place even him even if he's not making big plays directly the threat of him can at least in theory open up stuff underneath for the other guys. Resentments douse Qatar for all Jeffrey for Nelson angler like having him impacts the offense more than just his individual stats. No that he can produce by himself. You know, that's the exciting part to it. I think there's a lot to unpack this on coming back. It's kind of just crazy, right? Like, I never expected him to be an eagle again and kind of weird. Yeah. I mean, we've obviously heard rumors of it being possible. I thought it was possible. It has been rumored for a while now. But you just I just wasn't gonna believe. Until I saw it. And I go back to two thousand fourteen when he was released, and obviously a lot of people are going to put that on ship and ship does deserve a lot of blame for that. But at the same time, I don't think he was the only one signing off on that. As we've talked about before. I think the eagles had not made up reasons to get rid of him. I from what from people I knew at the time back, then and who legitimate info because they also knew other things that happen the off-season such as when the assigned him Tibo in they signed miles Austin. I remember hearing from people months out before those moves even happened. The same info was hearing about to Sean and some things that were going on behind the scenes that went so flattering. And I think people have to realize that there are guys in the NFL who are specifically hired to make incidents go away. Like this is their job. You know, you can say like, oh, well, we didn't see to get in trouble will. Yeah. Because sometimes there's a guy who makes disappear. That's how it works in the NFL. And I don't think a lot of people realized that that was kind of tough. F- for me when I was seeing all that hearing all that information, and I couldn't really share it so much at the same time. You know, I'm seeing people get so mad about that. You'll cutting Sean, and you know, if this Madden, and you're not again, you're not counting for that context. And you don't know that information I could see why you'd be upset because it's just not good value. A really good player. A really really really good talent who bring so much value and unique value for his way to shuts field. So it's kinda complicated for me over these past couple of years. Like, yes, you'll have missed Sean his talent. And I'm glad to have his talent back. But you know, I was concerned with some of the things I'd heard, and you know, some of the attitude stuff, I'm even going back before that all that Kelly drama. I remember remember being really disappointed with disown back in two thousand eleven two thousand twelve again twit that year, he up quit on the team. And then they paid him. And I didn't feel great about that. I was glad to have his talent around once again. But it just felt like felt cheap to me. If this isn't the right move. This guy quit on the team. And now you're paying him. So he's not gonna quit anymore. That's kind of be to me at the same time. Like, I remember the that was the same off season. Or at least I believe it was where the you'll gave extensions to Trent Cole Todd herons and that felt good because like those guys work their butts off they never complained and they got rewarded like, that's how it should be. And I just saw it just didn't love how Sean handled it. So I guess there's some kind of that weird part of me that I'm not saying like, you know, hate the move, obviously give in a or that, you know, it's going to be a disaster. I'm saying there's those are some weird things. Maybe that's just you know, personal thing. So many that doesn't even apply to other people though, I think, you know, some of the people I've seen things about said about, you know, always a diva or whatever. But I mean the bottom line to me is the football stuff. I, and I think that what you even down on about the off the field stuff about him being mature, or at least more mature, you know, he's thirty two. Now, he's going on thirty three this season. I think I hope he has anyway. Is just I think getting released by eagles. Probably a good thing for him in that realm in that realm of hey might need to check myself and look ever since then he's been pretty in the clear, right? I don't think he's gotten really any trouble. I haven't heard I haven't heard any locker room stuff in Washington or in Tampa. You wonder he kinda reminds me of when Buddy Ryan released Chris Carter and couldn't figure out why Chris Carter later said, you know, he was dealing with alcohol problems and getting released from the eagles was the wakeup call that he needed and maybe that kind of thing. The best thing that happened to really think in this hall of fame speech, or at least I think he said something like that around. Then so yeah team Chris Carter. I wanna be clear I'm not comparing one to one but just that kind of sentiment alternately again bottom line. I'm just glad to have the player back especially that deep speed is just it's so I'm how excited are you John this think about Carson Wentz? Just Chuck it out air deep to Sean Jackson in the other thing why I think this move is. So good for eagles is because they clearly struggled to find that deep speed answer. Now, they drafted Shelton. Gibson, drafted MAC Holland's. They've tried in. They signed toy Smith signed Mike Wallace. They were trying to get deep guys. It just nothing was really working. Great and Tori was great in the playoffs and he had some moments in two thousand seventeen regular season. Although they weren't as frequent as you would like between. Yeah. Yeah. And obviously he didn't last beyond on the first year, and he shouldn't have because the salary was too high. So they've kind of found some temporary things but the show on. Is here now to last hopefully, sign them to this two year extensions probably more like a two year deal, but still effort at the very least next two years. You actually have a very reliable and capable deep threat. And now there's no question. The guy is still one of the best in the league. Like, I'm fairly sure he's not peaked. Sean Jackson who used to now because he's older now, but he was leading the league in yards per reception last year. He is the active all-time leader in yards per reception. Like this guy is going to make big plays next year. I can't wait. I'm more excited for the season simply because Sean Jackson's back into going to be making big plays. And that is something you'll so sorely lacked last year, and he should make more big plays. With Carson Wentz as quarterback. I saw this stat on Twitter two thousand seventeen in two thousand eighteen deep ball. Accuracy percentage Wentz. Forty five percent that ranks seventh best out of twenty six quarterbacks. Winston was ten percentage points lower thirty five percent, which ranked twenty second out of. Six quarterback. So he knows what he's played with. Yeah. This'll be the best quarterback. He's played. With Michael Vick at the height of his powers was probably as good as Carson Wentz. I mean, there's there was a stretch there during that insane was two thousand was at the two thousand ten season. Yeah. What is when miracle Meadowlands and Mike Vick was going to raise that was that was as good a stretch of quarterback. I've ever seen anybody play on. He just unfortunately, couldn't sustain it. But yeah. Wentzel be right up there. And if Wentz can return to two thousand seventeen four or even something close to it. He's gonna it could make Sean Jackson another one thousand yard receiver again, if he can stay healthy. But that's also part of it here. Bill is health. He missed a bunch of games last season for various injuries and Jackson towards the end of his tenure in. Philadelphia was missing games. He had some some broken rib issues yet concussion issue at one point. So he's still a small guy, but he's still runs really fast. But the injury issues are always going to be. There are always going to be a concern. I don't think we should expect more than thirteen or fourteen games out of Sean. We get that many thirteen or fourteen I think I'll be very happy with that as miss scenario of about two games per year. So not terrible. But he probably will miss a game or two if history holds up so you just kinda ask to be prepared for that. I don't know find a way to work around. Yeah. Well, that's great news. I mean, I do hear what you're saying about about to Sean and his early years in some of the the locker room stuff. I talked about it a lot on and memories as well. Some of the some of the diva issues and all that kind of stuff, but hopefully that's behind us. And we just got ourselves the deep threat that we need desperately in this offense to help stretch the field one other big signing that the eagles made over the last week is signing the leak Jackson defensive tackle to three year thirty million dollar deal. He had eight sacks in sixteen starts in two thousand seventeen when he went to the Pro Bowl, but just three and a half sacks last year. Beal, gee, what do you what do you make of Jackson and a lot of beside Fletcher? Cox cox. Routinely. It's double team that would seem to me to portend. Good things for me Jackson, maybe a bounceback season for him playing next to one of the two or three best tackles and football. Just seems like he's a natural fit for Jim Schwartz once and a defensive I'm he wants a guy who's he doesn't want Dexter Lawrence from Clemson who's like three hundred fifty pounds, and he's going to stuff the run like gyms where it's once. He wants a guy who has some pass rushing juice. And that's exactly what leak Jackson brings this team. He was what ninth in terms of pressures last year out of defensive or interior defensive linemen. So that's what he's gonna bring. Now, it should be noted. There are concerns about his run defense. Benjamin select highlighted that. In this film piece, Michael kissed talked about that as well leak. Jackson himself talked about that as well because the bench last year because he said the Jaguars coaches felt he wasn't good enough in run defense. Now, I'm not super worried about that. Because first of all pass defense is much more important than run defense. And I think run defenses something they can kinda figure. Out, you know, they'll figure that one out you don't just figure out pass rushing know what I mean. Like, you just like you're not going to just magically get better at suddenly being really good at rushing the passer that to me is a much harder skill defined in. That's why you see those guys get paid more. And that's why leads accent got paid ten million dollars a year because he has that ability. So I'm really looking forward to that. You really have to think about how last year us just had nothing at defensive tackle outside of really. I mean, they were down to Bruce Hector was playing undrafted free agent. You know, they signed Trayvon Hester who ended up making that big play in the playoffs. But really, you know, he's not a guy you want as your number two defensive tackle. If he's number three or number four. She might be this year. That's fine. But again, you don't want him starting the playing tennis Fletcher Cox, you want someone playing next to flush Cox who can kind of either take some of the attention off of him in give him more one once or if letter Cox is getting those double teams, and sometimes triple teams, really then you want someone who can take advantage of those one once, and I think tax is going to do. That I think it was so nice to have TIMMY Jernigan be able to give this team some pass rushing juice early on in that two thousand seventeen season. And unfortunately, he couldn't really contribute last year because the injury now you get leaked accident here. He's going to be able to do some of that wreaks havoc. I like it. I really like what he had the saints press conference about playing with Fletcher Cox about how this Fletcher's team. I'm here to help any he said like playing next Fletcher Cox was a big reason why came in the money as the ultimate reason why he game. But still I think you know, that could have helped for sure like thinking, hey, man, and he talked about it. He was like wanna get back to where I was a pro bowler two thousand seventeen he was like that wasn't a fluke for me. That is who I am. And so I think he is out there at these Hungary to prove that, you know, they got close to the Super Bowl a couple years ago. They made it to the AFC championship game. And it looks like they're going to be the patriots at a time for a little bit in that game data chance and they'll to fell short disappointing season last year Jackson gets bench. So he goes from this high, you know, being having this. Purple year almost going to the Super Bowl and then last year a really low. So I think he's gonna be hungry to come in here and get to work and give some really good value to the team. And I think that's another exciting addition in terms of guy who can make an impact, you know. It's not just you know, run stuff for who. You're barely noticed. It's guy who's going to hopefully be exploding into the backfield making some big plays. So I'm pretty cited about seeing him work next Fletcher Cox this year. I mean Jackson said it the he feels like you'll have one of the vests. Are they one of these say exactly that I haven't? Yeah. He said boy, he said, I don't think there's a better deal line in the and you know, if all these guys if things go right, rainy Graham comes back, and he kills it. And Cox has another month figure Lee Jackson finds his groove and Derek Burnett steps up. That's lot of if I'm not saying to guaranteed, but the potential is there, and I like it. Yeah. I think it's there. Sure, I think it's and you can understand why he would say something like that. Because he is going to very talented defensive line. But also, you know, one it's do a little. Rise. Well, never heard anybody either. But I think it's a great signing. I think it's a great fit for this team. And really what the eagles have done here with these with these additions. Jay is they managed not to have to give up any of the complex, and we're going to get into the complex a little bit more. Because not only are the eagles. Not giving up any complex with any of these deals are the Eljay fort deal. They'll be compact, but that'll kind of get that'll get reinstated. Once the eagles lose some additional free agents, and we'll get into all that here. Coming up just a second. But that's who's new on Phil on the eagles roster here over the last week coming up. We'll talk about who staying and some folks who went elsewhere. We'll get into that up next right here on radio. I'm using GIS. Nate sloan. I'm songwriter. Charlie. Harding. We're the hosts of switched on pop the podcast where Charlie I breakdown pop hits to reveal how the music works. And why it matters. It's our job to help you find those hob moments within the music, whether you're a pop fanatic or skeptic, a teenager or an octogenarian non musician or professional composer every music lover. Will discover something you're opening in which pop. Yeah. And we think you'll have a lot of fun with us because you're going to get to hear from amazing guest musicians. Song writers producers journalists listen to switched on pop. Every week starting in March on the apple podcast app or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back on BGN radio. So B L g we just went over who's new to the team the Eljay fort signing, the Melik Jackson signing, Sean Jackson, both all three of them. Now members of the eagles. And I'm sure there are probably a couple of more on the way different places. Who knows we'll see what happens, but the eagles also made sure to hold onto some of their own players instead of letting them get away in free agency. I one Nelson Aguilar. He's been the focal point of a lot of discussion here over the last couple of weeks because he has that big nine point four million dollar contract number the fifth year of his rookie deal. He will be back next year at an unreleased number. He's going to come into the season. Earning nine point four million dollars. I know Benjamin celek wrote a piece about it saying that that's too big number for him because he basically provides replacement level production at the wide receiver position. But all things being equal. And you see what some of the other wide receivers are making. Out on the market, especially well, we're gonna get into one guy who just signed with the giants here in a few minutes Nelson. Art nine point four million dollars one year. What do you think about this one? I wanna give a plus for my league, Texan greats. I forgot to do that. Yes. As far as Nelson goes from grading this one man, I gotta give it a si. It's not the right value. It just isn't this almost feels like this is going to be my two thousand nineteen version of last year's chance. Wore Mak is getting paid too much. Now, very different circumstances. Not the same at all action have been on the team. I think nothing should be on the team. But it's just that number is just it's not efficient. You can't just think about it in the sense of or keeping us negli-. And that's great. That's an aspect to it. Yes. But that's not the whole equation there. You have to think about like is this officiant. And I just don't think it is. I think when you talk about his targets and his role in this offense, and you're paying him that much money. It's doesn't really like add up to me alternately. And now they were kind of in a tough spot because you can't. Cut him because they're not even getting Compaq firm and the nineties slot receiver that wasn't an option. You don't just them to trade him believe, you know, you wanna get some kind of value back for him. It's it's tough. I think it was a tough situation. I don't think it was a great situation that the rain I think keeping him. And by the way, I think just because they kept him. Now doesn't totally rule out a trait. I think that could still happen down the line possibly. I'm not. I'm not ruling that out. But you know, for now he is here, and it is fun to think about him. Hopefully bouncing back last year. You know, we talk about how his stats were on that different from two thousand seventeen in from a cursory glance that is you know, there's truth to that. But when you look into like, the efficiency metric says I've talked about before I mean, he was eighteen out of seventy nine wide receivers in yards per route run in two thousand seventeen and then that raking drop to forty six out of seventy two in two thousand eighteen so that was bad his drop rate also increased and then his D Y A R numbers. Which I've talked about before which are football, outsiders metrics. You know, he was eight bottom six hundred Seaver in that of category. So it just doesn't seem like the total best use of money to me. But it's kind of just the situation the Rin. So they're making the most of it by keeping him. I think in theory, you have Sean Jackson on the outside, and you have al-sham Jeffrey to be your kind of number one guy so to speak, and then you have hopefully that kinda take some pressure off of Nelson in the slot in hope plea, it allows him to have more space operate within north underneath than take that step forward that I thought he was on last year to be quite honest because I thought he was having such a good training camp. They even better than I've ever seen him. He just looked faster than I've ever seen him look before. And he he just didn't take that leap. So that was kind of weird to me, you know, he's had different wide receiver coaches. You can make different excuses. You can say, you know, might grow taking over the didn't use him. Well, and you can see that Carson not being fully healthy, you know, on a impacted him and. That's all true. But here's the bottom line. The are paying those negative or nine point four million. And that's a lot of money. And if they don't get good production out of him and like real good production. That wasn't a good decision. Yeah. And the mistake would have been made when they officially gave him that fifth year when they when they picked up that fifth year because you know, at this point like you said the getting Sean Jackson helps they could have probably gone out and gotten another slot receiver for maybe less money. But maybe not because you look at golden Tate. God from the giants who golden the John. We're gonna talk more about the giants at the end of the podcast, but golden take out a four year thirty seven and a half million dollar deal with twenty three million dollars guaranteed. That's a big number two. You know? And so maybe one year of Nelson Aguilar nine point four million dollars. If he were to have left. It does leave you without a slot receiver on the eagles. And I guess they got kind of bite the bullet. But I agree with you. I think C C. Plus, maybe if you're being extremely charitable, hopefully, Nelson Aguilar gives you two thousand seventeen effort this year. I mean, I do think he wasn't. Utilized right early in the season. First half of the season. It seemed to me like they just kept running on one Jetstream jet sweep after another. And you know, I think that I don't have a problem with that play call, but it's not the best. Use of Angola angle was great in the slot. Stretching plays breaking tackles in two thousand seventeen and he just didn't get a chance to do that much eighteen and maybe they figured some things out with him. And we're going to see a lot more a lot of twelve personnel from this team anyway moving forward, so you know, Aguilar's role on the team won't be as vital as I think it has been in recent seasons either. But you do still used at third wide receiver a lot Jay. I mean, they're they're in. What I think I looked it up today there and twelve personnel. Thirty five percent of the time this year. So that's you know, that sixty five percent of the time when you're not using two tight end said and Nelson Agla is going to probably figure prominently in most of those other in most of those other formations kind of makes it even more frustrating. If you don't run verse no time than like, we're paying the slot receiver nine point four million. Like, what the hell we should be fair point using this much more efficiently. And I don't think that's going to be their main base though. Like, you just you look at teams that use titans. A lot more than other teams in terms of personnel, even thirteen personnel. And it's just not like it's never like seventy percent of the time or sixty percent of the time. It's only like forty or fifty may be most like, it's not an don't even think. It's fifty. It's it's not it's not the base. It's not the base and what the eagles under Doug Peterson. They've always been in eleven personnel team. Now, they need to tweak that because they have dos Qatar Zachert. So they need to kind of balance that out a little more. And hopefully, hopefully will know Peterson talked about getting needing to get got more involved. So hopefully, that's not just lip service. And it is true. All kind of believe it when I see it again, I've nothing against Nelson. Adler hope is a big year. I'm rooting for him. I know he's been clearly keeping track of all of us downing him. The re tweeted the article that I tweet then's art hold that. I had tweeted out from last week. And yeah, you know, hopefully, he kind of proves us wrong has really good year. Jason peters. Coming back to the team on a one year deal. And I have seen in some circles this move getting criticized as Howie Roseman being to fund of his aging veterans to bring back Jason Peters who played every game last year, but had to sit out for large portions of many of those games and wasn't as effective as he has been in his career, which is understandable giving his it given his age but bringing Jason Peters back on a one year deal. Gee, what your great for that? One migrate bringing. Jason Peters back has to be. I'm gonna say be plus because and then ideal world you would be able to younger and move on from him. But I don't think that's the situation. And to me if you had gotten rid of Jason Peters didn't bring him back to me that's kind of like a D minus or an F. Like, I can't that wasn't going to be good enough for me. I don't you can't sell me on a good replacement plan if he's gone like what were you going to do at that point Rian spend big money on a freeze tackle like look at Trent. Brown got paid. You get paid a ton of money. I didn't wanna do. That and that cancels out your company too. By the way. I don't think big V is clearly I clearly don't think he is ready to take over at left tackle as a fulltime starter for all sixteen games. Like if he's one of your best to tackles needs protecting Carson Wentz apply inside for all sixteen games. I don't feel good about that. At all during my Lotte. I would love for him to be ready, but come on like we cannot count on him as anything. He's only played in a couple of preseason games. Literally never played football before that you cannot count. You cannot pencil him in any capacity as you're starting left tackle into nineteen. That's this madness. You can't do it you bring JP back for one more year in this. I'm guessing this will be probably the stymie for real you played all sixteen games last year, and he played eighty cents nap. So clearly he missed some time. But he is also one year for the removed from that ABCL injury that he suffered back in two thousand seventeen. So maybe that'll help out a little bit be little healthier not having to worry about that dealing with that as much easier order so that. Kind of doesn't help. But I think JP is still pretty solid at worst. He wasn't elite in two thousand eighteen clearly, but I do believe he was significantly better than big v was and at the very worst. I think he will be passable. He'll you'll be solid. He will make it will make sure Carson Wentz doesn't get like totally obliterated in kill it out there. So I liked that a lot and I love leadership to man, he's a future hall of Famer he's a ton of respect in this locker room. I think there's value in that as well. When you don't wanna pay just for that. But it's just a nice bonus to have AP back in that building. But he won his first playoff game with the team actually playing last year. That's true. He's still Jason that ring he wasn't on the field for I'm he's hungry for that too. And I'm glad to have him back any thought to the idea they still might draft. A starting not starting tech, but left tackle that would start in two thousand twenty to learn behind Jason Peters either in the first round or with a day to pick. I I would certainly if they. Actually have a board. And they have a list of players that they're gonna target at that spot in one of the nice things about the moves that they've made to fill some holes here. They don't have to go reaching forest Pacific position. But I I would certainly fire the eagles look at the possibility of if there's a tackle that comes along that I couldn't vision being my left tackle as Jason Peters replacement. I sure I probably would spend that draft pick. Whether it's in the first round second round or third round this year and just let him learn behind the bodyguard, man, I think that would be a great way to to also utilize Jason Peters, and what will probably be his last year on the team. I mean, if there's a pass if there's a tackle that false them. It makes sense. Sure. I mean, I'm not gonna force that pig especially now, right because Pius back. I mean, get actually makes a little less sense to do it in two thousand and the first round for this year. Just because you know, you have JP here you have big as his top backup. You have my Lotte as developmental guy. So unless it's just like an offensive tackle falls there. And you like, you know, you're pounding the table for that guy. You're like the guy. Like we can't pass on him than. Yeah. You take him. But I don't think, you know, it's situation where you're kind of like, you know, we don't really love this. But you know, us there and we take him. So I think it's it's more of I think it's round one as much as they might go for guy Lee Titus Howard funny enough had a project visit with eagles in the also worked him out at this day. Also talked to him at the combine and the senior bowl. So they've been showing a lot of interest in him from Alabama state. So I think he's more of a day to guy maybe they go after someone like that. And I would love that. Because then all of a sudden, you have my Ladda, and you have big v and you have Matt prior who can potentially pay tackle. Although it seems like he'll be playing more so guard, and you have some young is. There was developing could pet densely take over. And there's like no one guy, you're sticking your hopes on. I do like that. Right. I mean, like, you're not gonna be like, well, we hope Jordan my lot of works out. Because like he might not not a year anything though, you know, get a couple of tackles and just kind of hope. If it works out that way, we also we already discussed that Brandon Graham is returning. And also Nate Sud filled was given a second round tender by the team. So he will stick around next year as well more than likely that we had talked about in recent weeks, the eagles pursuing a backup quarterback veteran to challenge Sud filled in training camp that hasn't come to fruition. Just yet. But as far as Sud build sticking around right now. I mean, we talk about Ryan Fitzpatrick right now, it's it's looks pretty good for him to be the backup next season. Right. I think it does. Because you know, he's getting this three million dollars in the second round tender. They could have done the original round. But they didn't always seem likely they're going to do the second round be just because if they did the original round some team could assign him to an offer sheet. And then if the didn't match all they would get a six round pick, and that's didn't seem realistic. You know, you spent all this time developing Nate Sud field. I think you did that just yet a six round pick. And all of a sudden not have a real that comported back option on the roster who isn't familiar with the scheme. So I'm guessing he's the guy. I don't think that that rules out. They signed some other kind of veteran maybe someone who isn't so threatening to sell like like a Matt Cassel type than -essarily him. Specifically, you know, someone like that who like clearly just isn't good anymore. But kind of in theory is at least pushing Nate. And if Nate like sucked the summer, and that other guy was his average self then he would beat him out. So what I'm saying is kinda push is such fell to really step up and have a big summer. And hopefully, that's the case. I think that's what the eagles would prefer twenty five years old. He spent a couple of years developing him. Now, you would love to see him step up and give you a lot of confidence in that number to roll. And I think there's you know, there should be some reasonable expectation for that. He looked really good last summer. I thought now there were some hiccups there that he had both in the preseason and watching him in training camp. So you would hope he kinda takes another step forward looks even better than he did last year. But I think there's enough of a base there that you kinda feel like he can take over. And potentially, you know, be ready to start when if slash win called upon in relief duty of Carson Wentz this season. So I think they still do something there. I don't know if it's super serious. I feel like it wouldn't be again because you're paying Nate's failed. Three million are really doing that. And having him end up his ear third string quarterback that doesn't seem very efficient. So I hope sailed just kills at the summer. And I think he will all right to that's who's new to the team. And that's who staying with the team. Let's quickly look at who went elsewhere, and Nick foles, obviously the big name Beal g welcomed in Jacksonville as their new franchise quarterback on Thursday held a news conference in Jacksonville, Elsa Rhoda. A touching piece thanking Philly for the players Tribune, all you know, when all of a sudden Nick foles just class act, and he went out in a classy way. And it seems like everybody done in Jacksonville is is ready to welcome him with open arms. He told reporters today Bill that he was talking to five or six teams this offseason. Do you think that talking to those five or six teams, they are all talking? To as a a starting quarterback. I it seems that seems like a lot more teams than I would have thought. Yeah. To me doesn't mean a lot that could mean like, hey, think falls come here and play for us for ten million and him being like, no, right? Exactly. Not gonna do that. That doesn't mean they're all offering him starting who would who those teams be? Let's be real like who would those teams be part of the thing that made Jacksonville? So obvious to me a couple of weeks before it happened officially here is that they seemed like the only logical suitor for him. I didn't see where Elsie could possibly go especially with Denver getting flacco. And then Washington trading for case keenum and the giant saying they're heaping Eli like where where's the landing spot for him? Elsewhere than it was in Jacksonville, you can say Miami. But they haven't done anything quarterback. And seems like they might be tanking. And even if that's the case like, okay, that's one other team. So I just I really don't think there was a strong market for Nicole's as we were hearing all along and by the way the justification for. Why the Jaguars overpaid for nNcholas is very sad to me. We had more money. So people would respect him as respect works. Von like, hey, we're gonna pay you more. So people. The the way our friends over at big cat country, which is the Jaguars Espy nation blog. Phrased it was like one million equals one respect. I just really got me. They give as some simple math Matic formula yet. There's a new Stanton baseball respect above replacement. It's rahr. That's great. Yes. So that's kind of funny to me. But love, you know, Nick foles, obviously nothing but the best of him down in Jacksonville. I'll be very interested to see how he does in that division should be tough division. You know, I thought rebel did overall solid job. Not Mazen job, but solid job with the titans. So they're kinda hanging around you have the colts, obviously with Frank Reich who looked like they could be really team, and they haven't really been doing this offseason. But Salat cafe. So maybe moves to come. You know, they had a good season last year. The year is one the hotter teams. And then the Texans who actually friggin won the division last year in one month's games, even though they schedule they still Shawn Watson. So s gonna be a tough division. I'm gonna be interested to see how he fares down there. I'm gonna be interested to see how once again, he does outside of Philly because that's really where his main success has been. So it will be very interesting. You know, twenty two million is a lot. We'll see if he lives up. To it. I have my reservations. But that really doesn't matter because anytime I don't make false. He proves me wrong. So natty does do it again. And we're I we are rooting for unique. I know sometimes we say things on this podcast, where we're just trying to be realistic about about things, actually, you know, been a real just keep in a rebel. We love you neck, and we're really rooting for good things. Jacksonville, Jordan Hixon as we mentioned earlier signed with the cardinals a multi year deal where thirty six million dollars. Jordan Mathews signed with the forty Niners on Thursday. The eagles also decided not to resign stiffen was new sqi. But I think what we really want to talk about here. Bill, janice. It's the the position that everybody in in Philadelphia talking about is the running back position. Because right now, I think that's the biggest area of need for this team is at running back and need last year. They finished the season with a window Smallwood. Getting most of the carries in the backfield. You had Josh Adams who had a one good game for the eagles this year, and then disappeared altogether. Darren sproles came back at the end of the year and ended up being probably. Their number one running back and Corey Clement is hopefully going to come back from an injury and perform better than he did in two thousand eighteen but it's a really weak unit. And we were kind of pinning our hopes on the eagles getting a back like Mark Ingram who who signed with the ravens or Tevin Coleman who signed with the forty Niners. Ed, very, cheap affordable deals. None of us were really thinking lady on bell was a realistic possibility. He, of course, went to the jets for twenty five million dollars in guaranteed money. But all those guys are off the table now. And so I'm just curious what your thoughts? What do you think the eagles do next here because the options and free agency and on the trade market are at this point limited? I mean, it's not amazing someone again who has this wanted to have running back who has actually contribute be good for too long. Now. It's just frustrating. People are frustrated now, you know, there's still plenty offseason left. So I'm sure they're going to do something to address that position. I mean, they pretty much have to job. He's a free agent. He might leave. You might go. The. Colts visiting with them next week. Then you have dance roles who might retire or use might wanna move on from him. He's a free agent. So then they have to do something like they literally have to hand his staff stick with what they have right now, they can't. And they know that, you know, they're still rumored to be interested in to Johnson who the Browns are reportedly shopping now. So maybe something gets done there. I think you would have to consider trade is somewhat likely because you know, helps eagles save compact. And now, of course, they could be giving up pick this year. But maybe give up a player who knows or some kind of pig. Slop this year as opposed to that pay straight up. So that's something they consider in addition to him to Johnson. You also have Jordan Howard, not crazy about he doesn't do a lot for me. His numbers have really declined year over year averaging three point seven yards per carry last year and to some extent like yet. Phased out a little bit in favor of three Cohen who have much more fish int. Better for them the forty Niners speaking of Tevin Coleman. And by the way, I heard they were they weren't crazy about Tevin Coleman. Ultimately, I I know we had heard some buzz Yonne you look at the numbers yet about you know, they're mar they're interested in. So I don't wanna say that they didn't like him at all the ultimate -ly. I think know that deal was pretty reasonable as if they wanted him badly. They would have in the sense. I got from what I heard is that they had some kind of concerns about him. Ultimately, I think that played into why didn't happen, but speaking of Coleman and where he ended up hanging Beal you when you when you say when you say concerns are you talking like injury. There's scheme concern. I don't want to specific into it. But I just think considered concern about here overall, not necessarily talent related, but just some things, and and I wanna speculate too much too. Because I don't know how much is true of it. Actually, I don't know seven colon situation as I don't wanna do him injustice. But just overall I just I heard there was reasoning. You know, it wasn't just like. They were the gist of what I'm trying to say it wasn't like they were asleep at the wheel. And they're like, oh, well, we didn't even know he was out there. Now like, they knew is there right decided they wanted to pass on it. And maybe there's something else looking though. And maybe the thing is are these one thing worth monitoring is ten Coleman goes to the forty Niners. Now, they've tunnel running backs. They have Matt Breda. They have jerk. Germ jerick. Mckinnon I should say who didn't play for them last year because he had the ACO, but he signed that big deal with them. And there's been speculation. I think that he can get cut. They have former eagle Remo start and remastered agent on Twitter was kind of like speculating that something could happen with him. Not like the Rex Lee. But he is kind of him Rameau, sir. It has better than most second running backs in the league. And he's also on the best specialties players in the league wonder, if anything will change our he said something like that some kind of wondering if there could be some movement out there and San Francisco, you know, so there's out their trade for someone. I would still love to have Spencer ware, and if Michael hissed juju or voodoo or whatever you wanna call. It is working here. L J forts Philadelphia. So men you'll science Spencer ware. I'm pretty sure how dousing radio and kissing selection at that point. And just, you know, going by those moves, so maybe we'll see that. And I think that's what they should do. I would like to see them kind of make a couple additions. Hopefully, just get some new guys in here. Like, you know, the guys you have right now, they're not in large part aren't going to be good enough like Corey climate. I think can be yes. As a complementary piece, I think you can reasonably Bank on that to some extent. But like Josh Adams. I don't even know if he's making the team this year. I don't think that's a lack, you know window small it feels like you'll always be on the team. Unfortunately, what's gonna be different about him. Nothing. He's always going to be one else. Mullet. He's going to be xactly. What you think he is again next year and Donald pump Frey out. There tweeting today that he's going to be a change player. Whatever he's been in the lab for two years. And now his third years ready to break out, and you know, hopefully for Donald sake is right. You know, I hope that for him for me. Expecting that. No. I don't expect. I would really just hope they do something here soon. And I believe they will. But right now, it's kind of frustrating because you just look at the offense. You wanna get excited about it? And there is reasonably excited about it. When you look at offense of line, and he looked at the quarterback and you look at the wide receivers and tight ends. But you just look at that running back and says the black hole right now. So you just hope they can kinda address that pretty soon only come back. We're going to look at one NFC east team will finish up looking at the New York Giants and try to figure out what the hell are they doing up in New York and that'll be up next right here on radio. Baseball, truly. It is awful. I'm Phillies writer Justin clue. Join me every week along with John Stolnis. Liz Rozier, and Dr Trevor Strunk as we discuss all the ways the billions of hurt us on our podcast hidden season as well as a storm, anecdotes and rar emotional ramblings on our other shows continued success and the dirty inning. Subscribe to the good fight and you'll get conversations with insiders analysis of breaking news and stats stats. Stats together. We'll survive whatever baseball can throw at us. And we're back on radio. So b L g the eagles have had a busy week. Lots of NFL teams had busy week. And one of those teams is one of their division rivals, the New York Giants, and what a week Dave Gettleman has had here Brennan, I mean is I can't I can't think of a worse general manager and professional sports right now. Because you've got in the giants. They let Landon Collins go because they couldn't afford them yet. They continued heavy lie. Manning on the roster this year after taking saquon Barkley number two in the draft overall passing up a number of really good quarterback options when they clearly needed one they sign Odell Beckham junior to a huge contract before the start of last season. And then this week they trade him to the Cleveland Browns for slightly slightly more than what the eagles got in the Sam Bradford trade, then they follow it up with a golden Tate signing for four years. Thirty seven and a half million dollars with twenty three million guaranteed. What is going on in the Meadowlands? Beal, gee, I don't think they know John. I like my question to you into anyone is what is the giants plant. What what is the plan? That's that's the best question. There is not there's no plan. There's like no realistic plan. There's just there's moves that they make that in some of them actually have been okay. They signed Marcus golden today to one year deal. Like fine seems like a good deal for them. I think the site cycler trade for them. You know, getting him. You know helps the offense align. Now, the rather best pass rusher. So you know, so Staley total win there. But like, you know, there's so there's some things in theory. That are like, okay, I can kind of see some sense here. But then you just looked at the over-all scope, what are they doing their trading? Their best player in Odal Beckham junior for really not great value. Like, I know there's people out there like well. That's a good return. No, it's not it's not Oto Beckham junior. Who I'm not even really the biggest fan of. Is future hall of Famer like you just look at his numbers. And you look at his talent any just is. So when you're trading future hall of Famer who designed a year ago for amid I this year, not even a high. I amid I seventeen overall and the third round pick. They got from the Browns wasn't even the highest third round pick the Browns have so that's as bad negotiation right there when you make a deal like that you would think they would get the highest third round pick. They didn't even get that. And the third round pick in injure will peppers like, okay? Great adepts, really amazing return for a transcendent talent at wide receiver. No, that's not good enough. And really like what are the giants doing with that move? Are they rebuilding because some people are saying they are including some giants fans all our friends over our enemies, rather, whatever you wanna call him at big new view said they're rebuilding like, no, they're not if they're rebuilding. Why are they letting the two of their best young players go and OWI tuner in landing Collins. And if the rebuilding why are they signing a thirty one year old golden Tate to a thirty six point five million our contract and losing their fifth round Compaq and jibbing potentially a fourth round Compaq to the eagles for doing that win by the way, they already have billion slot receivers on their team starting shepherd is also I mean is already a really good slot receiver. So now, you're bringing golden Tate in also be a good site receiver. Like, what are you doing? What is the play of here there? There is no plan. Dave Gettleman is totally east one of these vintage classics football guys. He thinks he knows best. Even though he's living thirty years in the past. He doesn't embrace analytics in fact, he made fun of it. Which is this like so dumb because he literally did that after well before the won the Super Bowl, but like, you know, leading up to the eagles winning the Super Bowl and then winning the Super Bowl. And all of a sudden, you know, he's like oh analytics stupid, even though. Oh heels are winning Super Bowl with in by the way. I'm sure like the patriots are very big on analytics as well. So it's just it's crazy, man. I it's great. He's he's he's dying to run a run heavy offense yet. He just he just hands on the ball. Get a full neck in there. Give me an iron head Hayward. I want you know, maybe this year in the draft we in. We'll wait till the second round. We get ourselves a Christian Koi? Eight a lead saquon Barkley because you have a fullback hit the whole before tap before our tailback, we're going to run the wishbone properly this year. We're gonna need that stuff. I have wait. Let me redo the I have a take John. I thought I was coming. Yeah. I'm here. I've been I've been thinking about this one the giants total incompetence these past couple years. Just just further proof that there to several wins were total flukes. We all thought they were at the time. They were absolutely. Especially the second one. The first one was a little more legit. But the second one, especially was disliked the most Bs fluke of all time. It wasn't like the giants. And I was saying at the time to I was saying the giants aren't this team on a model yourself after they got hot at the right time. They just got lucky and guess what? Honestly, sometimes it takes luck twin championship in that championship still happen. So I'm not saying like, you know, doesn't count like they want it. I'm not trying to take away. I'm saying like this. I think just totally validates like the whole like this wasn't fluke for them. Just proves it that they they're clearly they don't know what they do are. They don't know what they're doing. The mayors are totally like Mike francesa of w fan is running the team. Basically, again, really basically and someone talked about it on Twitter recently where like he goes on the or people get angry or whatever and they complain the him to micro. And then he goes on the radio, or I guess it starts with him. So he's on the radio. He's complaining and the fans are like. Buying into it. And they're they're they're feeding into it. And then they're expressing their discontent with the team such as in the case of when the the giant Spence ally. And all of a sudden the Mara's are like giving into that fan pressure. That's what's happening here. And it's amazing because this offseason Mike Francesca francesa has been like pounding the table for the jets signed golden Tate. Now, obviously wasn't the jets. But it was the giants. And you have to wonder, you know, this already the, you know, the idea out there that francesa has influence over them. That's that can't be coincidence. Right. Like, he's been saying that you gotta get golden Tate. And I think that's really just amazing and a bad way for the giants. And I feel bad and away. They're obviously a rival. I don't feel too bad. But I just I follow some giants fans. There's one on Twitter who have known for while good friend canal Shah who is at k s I. On Twitter used to be a used to hang out at BT began more on the comments like I told him before. Like, I honestly would be more scared of the giants of you or the general manager than I truly believe that like I I the giants had higher tomorrow. And they would be a better franchise now in they wouldn't be perfect. He does know general manager experience. But I honestly think it'd be better with him than Dave. Well, I couldn't be any worse. There's there's no way could be any worse net as a franchise going in the absolute wrong direction. Like all just all of the other eagles rivals in the NFC east all going in the wrong direction. I think the Cowboys you're still low worried about the Cowboys. But the moves they've made this offseason don't make any sense. And they've done anything so far here free agency or with trades or anything Jerry Jones. I don't know what he's waiting for. But maybe thinks he's got he's got the championship team already and just waiting for the draft. But it's been a busy few days here, g free agencies now fish Lee underway. More moves are coming. More traits are coming more cuts are probably coming. So. So there might be guys who are not yet available that soon will be that the eagles could go after pickup make a trade for something like that. So we'll make sure that we keep our eyes locked on tweet deck here of for the next few weeks leading up until the draft. Beal any final words for you before we wrap up. I mean, we're kind of the second wave of free agency kinda here that talk, you know, the initial buzz to die down a little bit. But now we're gonna see some other things I still have a lot of eagles free agent players out there as I mentioned you're gonna see Gye reportedly visit the colts next week. We're seeing that Darby reportedly visited the chiefs on Wednesday night. And we haven't heard anything since then. So that's a little interesting. We've heard that the you'll still wanna sign him. So that's kinda tensely one of the next shoes to drop whether it's him resigning with the Owl's or him signing. Elsewhere. And then obviously, the runningback thing is going to be on the top of everyone's mind until they do something about that. So there's still some. Things to do here. Basically is what I'm trying to say Cowie Roseman Kansas kick up his feet just yet they still some work to do here. But overall, I think you know, after kind of taking stock of the bigger picture after this kind of as an even been a full week. But this first wave I guess you could say free agency is that I'm feeling good about the eagles overall against a lot of work to do in terms of how they need to build this roster. But I just feel excited for the two thousand nineteen season already just already just because some of these moves are making I'm excited to see guys play for the team. Whether that's Jackson or it's decent beater coming back. John Jackson making big place. I'm just like I'm ready to see that. I think I think about how last year two thousand seventeen season kinda just bled into the two thousand eighteen season for me, and this year feels different feels like things are changing a little bit in other making these big additions. So it's exciting. And I am looking forward to it. And based on how the off season is going so far the eagles are loading up on complex, and they'll be. You're not you're not looking to the twenty twenty draft just yet. But the way things are shaping up. They're going to have so many draft picks in the two thousand twenty draft. They're gonna be able to do a lot of things if they if they choose to do it and the way they've handled the off season right now as they have improved themselves, or at least kind of found some able replacements for players who might be leaving. So that they enter two thousand nine the two thousand nineteen draft. Without again, like I said earlier having to reach for any specific position in the first round or second round and really just allow the board to come to come to them. And then you just hope that Joe Douglas and high Roseman and the rest of the scouting department have their board. Right. But that'll we'll see how that all works out as we get closer to draft time and make sure to keep listening to the bleeding greenish in podcast feed. 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BGN Radio #82: Are the Eagles Not Good?

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BGN Radio #82: Are the Eagles Not Good?

"Hey there podcast pals. I'm John Stolnis the host of the Phillies pod hidden season one of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation look the baseball season is one hundred in sixty two games long and there's no way you can watch all those games so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness you could ever want and make sure to check out our other podcast including the award winning the dirty inning with Justin clue and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin and Laze rozier subscribe on Apple podcasts or your favorite podcast APP. You're listening to BGN ridden with Brandon Lee County and Jimmy Kimmel Jimmy Onstar with a cold open this week I don't know if it counts as a cold open. If if you say it's a coat open but do you remember what I said to you when we were both walking in to you Lincoln financial field prior that's right for our listeners brandon and I parked at the same time and we walked into the stadium. Do you remember what I said. It was very important. Remember what question I asked. You are the eagles just not that good basically that it was like is it is their chances if this team like this isn't good How are you feeling about that question to me after the Eagles Twenty seven to twenty four loss to the Lions in week three. I don't think it's that I do think there is something to the injuries and that's an easy excuse for a team at should've beaten the falcons week to should've beaten the lions week three but can't be completely dismissed because I think there are totally different team when Sean Jackson's in there and obviously alshon loss loss of Jackson hurts but he's not not coming back. Obviously I mean the way that is say. Milo played week to was just so far beyond awful that I think he pretty much much. He's more to blame for that loss than the obvious target of enough in Nelson Aguilar nine-game but it so he can't possibly be as bad going forward as he wasn't that game and I I don't know I just look at the roster. The offensive line is still good. The defensive line is maybe not good which is kind of contrary to what we thought at least in terms of the starters heading into this season. Fletcher Cox not being one hundred percent is a big issue and I think it's probably even a bigger issue then then the defensive ends because it all starts with him and if he's not the beast that we've kind of come to know him to be then it really just trickles down from there and you know oh him not being sort of that all pro caliber player doesn't open up the same kind of opportunities that you guys Derek Barnett and Brandon Graham especially because he plays on that side side would be getting otherwise and those guys just have not been able to get to the quarterback. I know that the that the excuses have been made that they face Max x protect BS on some of that but when they're not getting to the quarterback we have seen already so far that the secondary can be exposed and yeah I mean certainly it's a team that's not without its severe issues may severe might be the wrong word but significant issues but they have talent so. I do think they are better than the majority of teams teams in the NFL but just haven't played like it so far so the man you just heard speaking right now Jimmy Kamsky in case. You didn't know that because again I didn't start this show intro just kind of wanted to get into that right away. 'cause that was in my mind. I just thought that was so funny. I was like man worthless team just doesn't go right lose to the lions and I of course in Brandon League out and you can find to be Kamsky on Philly voice the Eagles writer and you can find me obviously on bleeding renascent dot com and right here on BGN radio so yeah just wanted to get into some more of this takeaways. Yes I guess that we had from this eagles lines game and Kinda. What about what they need for the team moving forward you've already touched on the defensive line. Jimmy on revisit that and a little bit but I guess we have to start really hear what we already started but I guess the next boy I should say we have to get out of you. Mentioned Carson Wentz is Yeah Carson Wentz. I mean he's not to me. I mean it's it's again. It's another game it's another game the one of these one score games she does not have great records in and it's clearly all his fault should the Eagles Cut Carson. They should absolutely get rid of. I find the criticism of Carson wentz to be absurd at least after this last game. I can see where people were. Maybe upset with the way that he played in the first quarter urban side of the first half against the Falcons where he he didn't look right. He often you know some of the hits that he took early in that game affected him in some way but he certainly often in the first half of that game in the second half of that game he was awesome. I mean he was legitimately awesome in the second half that Falcons game this past week against Detroit is making mistakes really really nit. Pick a few passes that are at all target the the crazy one for me is that last one to Jr Sega whiteside which I pointed out in in sort the GIF thread on twitter where he's he's moving away from pressure in the pocket any throat. It's all arm. He doesn't really have a chance to totally step. Step into this. Throw the ball travels like sixty yards in the air hits receivers in the hands and people are saying he should allow more he can't be he's basically he just throwing it as far as he possibly can and he still hits the receiver in his hands and you want him to leave critical lead him or how big the frigging catch made the cats when you're a guy hi who is drafted for that jump all ability like something he was great at Stanford in a Dj articulate side like Oh and it's it's just too much to expect yeah. I mean yeah I mean Jay. Garrick whiteside is playing one hundred thirty five snaps this season his two receptions for fourteen yards again. It's just way too much to expect like rookie receiver to have more than that like that's ridiculous. Collins make a catch over the middle on third down right catch on third down earlier in the Game Zakar. It's make a catch on on third down. Maybe you might go for it. On fourth now like nobody is helping Carson Wentz in any way and yeah he's not perfect but it's not really that far from it either like he's been. It was really really good in my opinion that lions game if they come away with a win in that game like Jj Ortega makes the catch that he one hundred percents should make we're looking at Carson Wentz leg. He's some kind of hero after that game but any the L. in in the column really kind of changed the narrative on that big time yeah. I mean you could say the same thing right for the Falcon team to Nelson. Earlier doesn't drop that that huge catch. That's really been frustrating. I think if you're looking at Carson Wentz and you're looking at the conversation around him. I really feel like he's been an unlucky like that's really that's honestly my stance. I feel like these past. Two weeks have been so like abnormally unlucky to obviously players are gonNA deal bad luck drops whatever ever but like in week two again. I can't get over the fact that Carson wentz loses three players who combined for fifteen receptions two hundred and twenty one yards and four touchdowns in week one like in pregame game warmups like they're just totally gone so even getting to that thing you said about him not looking great in the first half like he has some legitimate excuse to not look like now. I'm not saying like I I think he probably could have looked better than he did even with that but still like you know he was not an easy situation and then against the lions year I mean what was he supposed to do. I don't like what more could he have. Done like eight drops his to drive killing fumbles which were both like in a position where eagles reasonably could have gotten points on both of those. Dr They were they would have been in opponent territory very close to it if the eagles didn't fumble on both of those with Mile Sanders announced Nagla that fumble happened within within field goal range drop earlier in the game on third down. Yes that was out of it around Lake right on the fifty yard line. He makes catch. They're more more likely than not going to get some kind of points that are usually get into opponents territory you. You're going to get some kind of points instead ponsa turnovers I so I agree completely people only hear the word lack but certainly will when applies to Carson Wentz in this case yet. He's been pretty unlucky so far this year yet in the Lions scored gorge directly off of those two turnovers to the scored six points like another frustrating element to the game is like okay. You know you're going into this game shorthanded like the offense. They don't have a off Shawn Geoffrey. You don't have Sean Jackson. How about special teams come out and doesn't and then so literally the Eagles haven't scored in the first quarter all year? They finally managed wants to do it. It's only a field goal by okay. They finally did it. They made some progress immediately wiped off the board with alliance kick. Return touchdown like it. Does you watch that by the way. Did you like take a hard. Look at that. I did well I just I didn't see on the replay. Just watching it on the replay live at the stadium. I mean there was no in there like that whole side. You're going to bring up eljay fort they. They blocked it up well so give the Lonzo but a credit there but really I mean very bad on that play. You kinda missed an open field. Tackle Sedalia took a weird angle too that he was down the field initially and he kind of took out a blocker but you'd prefer to see him go more after the runner then allow the block to do his job. eljay fort wound up on the ground to is that if we can just make little side tangent here two guys in Eljay four who has not stole not played a single snap in the defense yeah he won't all year Andriessen Dayo who was bad just flat bad the first two weeks of the season. I thought he was okay. In the Raillard Defense Hansen Week three button. I don't like the play that he made on that. Kick return touchdown so those two guys that are going to cost the eagles a pair of fourth round compensatory picks if they're not cut by week ten but sorry getting back to the kick return real quick eljay Four. It's on the ground really forward misses a tackle and it's kind of like the same thing that we saw last cheer beginning of the Year Ria had all these fill in guys who were just cost in the eagles games like trae Sullivan. I didn't cost because it happened in the Falcons game where he just walks into a punt it almost cost as a fumble and then you have guys like Tori Graham Corey Graham's another one who basically cost him the the Titans Games. You have all these back the roster guys that are costing them games and you're seeing a little bit early on this year. Yeah not rate so another guy we already kind of touched on but WANNA to get more into him because there's a lot of conversation about him. Nelson Galore me so weak to he goes over one hundred yards. What like five or over one hundred whatever the eight eight for one oh seven. I think it was okay something like that yeah over one hundred and but you know most importantly drops the game winning touched. Yes has that fourth-down reception option drops. You know a play that really could have ended the game. There couldn't have been more on a platter for him to just yes stick your hands out in both going to land on them in Astrid running down the sideline dis- does not bring it in and then this week you know obviously has that drop. We talked about around midfield which would have given the eagles a first down run the fifty yard line or so so and then he has a crucial crucially awful fumble that again probably takes the at least field goal if not not more off the board for the Eagles now kind of weird. I feel like you know the the response to Nelson from this game as being kind of weird to me because I I think people have been I say I think people have been too soft. Anegla now some of that has been coming out of the whole the funny guy on the TV who saved people from a burning earning building children learning billy and drop that great quote about how he was catching the baby's unlike Agassi that was amazing though the look that he gives after that tale. It's so it's so seemless to it wasn't like forced at all. It was just like natural uses la.. I love let's get him on the podcast guys awesome so yes so then you know. Nelson Adler comes out and he offers him tickets to the game which I think is a is a smart move good move by Nelson got some good agents or PR people. I don't WanNa hear Oh. He's like you know like someone's in his ear about that. I mean he did it whatever but but then I think I think people like from somehow like that. It's like Oh. Everything's okay now. No it's not okay like Nelson. Laura is writing this team just like he was back in two thousand sixteen like it's not only that he's struggling and like he's not playing great. No L. Like he's actively making this team worse. Yes I love this age. Dwell response among twitter like you know your or he has the bad bad drop on third down to me as the fumble like like he's absolutely killing the team and you say so on twitter and then he catches a touchdown early visage will do. He's still playing like like he just he's costing you points and he's he's given points to the other team like him. Scoring touch on does not really totally make up for are the massive mistakes that he's making offense week two and week three but I mean he's in. He's in a fury in player because you can see that he has talent like the play that he makes him the first touchdown when he scored against the Lions where I think it was a twenty yard touchdown. He gets yards after the catch. It makes couple guys. Madison gets his way into the end zone like that's legitimately really really good play second now. He's just duchess. The product of He's the guy in the Roud just happens to be wide open because the scheme GonNa give him too much credit on that one but that first touchdown down you can see the kind of talent that he has and then he makes these infuriating plays like you said he made a lot of those in twenty sixteen has dropped. His drop rate was horrible. All I saw after every season go back and I look at every incomplete pass for the season and in two thousand fifteen. His job was well over ten percent twenty sixteen well over twenty well over a ten percent. Even the super bowl year his drop rate was still pretty high. Even though he was a lot more productive he made a lot of big plays that year ear like a lot of like yard long touchdowns and that kind of thing so he was definitely a a a a major contributor in something about quote out of quote unquote critical breakout player but dry still high last year. I think it was like four or five percent of the catchable balls that were way he dropped so it was kind of a problem that he fixed to some degree last year to make the same number of you know big down the field plays like he did the super bowl year but he did kind of correct that drought problem and I wonder if in in his mind he kind of went our that's fixed. I don't have to work on it anymore. I don't know I mean I don't. I don't know what is what is training regimen is but they're back in those jobs are back and and it's concerning on whether he can fix it or whether the drops kind of just linger in his head the same way that you know the the same did they talk about quarterbacks and you've got a short memory. I wonder if you know that that same philosophies kinda applies to Nelson and whether you gotTa have a short memory lot or you you better get that fixed. What builds on the frustration for Nelson idol or at least to me is that this is a guy who we kinda talked about before like being unhappy with his role after a week one win so I don't WanNa hear that by the way I don't WanNa hear. All he wants to do is win because he's got his shot since then for sure he's gotten his playing time and he's like he's. He's not even making the most of it and by the way like going into in this offseason like I was not fully convinced he was going to be back for a while because that number is so high like that he's been basically non was almost ten million yeah it which is twenty six out of all. NFL wide receivers in terms of annual value this year. Nelson Igor is is not close to being the stakes that's wide receiver in the NFL like Edison overpay. Now I kind of understood it from the sense of using Zip Contender Eagles think this Ribaud contender under you can afford to make that overpay like it's not laying great. It's not it's not looking like the best use of resources. I'll tell you what the other the other argument for it is. He he gives you a guy where you can go out and have a pretty quality eleven personnel three wide receivers and then you can also implement your two tight end sets and and that becomes really hard for defenses to to scheme for because now you gotta worry about the year eleven per day of quality eleven personnel in Jeffrey to Sean and Angle Angle are and then doug then mix kind of mix it the those eleven personnel sets with those two tight end sets and that's hard for defenses to have to defend on the fly where new you're substituting guys in and out and you're mixing running running past your maybe mixing a little bit of UPTEMPO. You can show all these different looks to opposing defenses in and also you can be different defenses differently. Would I be mad. Aisles like you get a defense with with the bad slot corner for example or you know. Oh guys who kind of undermanned at corner then attacked him with eleven personnel. If you get a posing defense is where you don't think they're safeties. linebackers can cover then you're. GonNa show maybe a lot of two tight end set so I can understand it from that perspective where they wanted to be stacked on offense but I do agree completely with you that certainly not the twenty six th receiver in the NFL well. I wonder if he'll be what do you think about him. In twenty twenty zero chance he's back in my mind zero you must like well unless it's a situation whereas market is just horry and no one wants to sign him but I don't. I don't think there will be I think someone will pay him. Why was he ever do tend to go in free agency. Yeah and you look at what slot receiver's got this past off season humphreys the few others that got that got around ten million yeah. They're escaped me off the top of my head. I remember Adam Humphreys one of them and in the winter lines. There's some others but they I mean they did very well in free agency in Twenty nineteen so if that trend continues then aguilar could get paid but if he played if play the way he's playing and who's GonNa WanNa deal a bat. If they want him around long-term he would be signed by now. I think it's clear that he his value of himself way higher than what the Eagle Point is for sure his value in the long-term being over to the defensive side of the ball from the scheme already mentioned it earlier Jimmy but I kinda WANNA WANNA. Throw some things that you hear. There's obviously easily been a lack of production that much we know from the heels defensive ends they have zero sacks through the first three weeks and they have ten combined quarterback hits which which is not great they made to against the lions zero sacks into quarterback hits against the lions not very good now. Did you see this. ESPN analytics number Jimmy because this is I do not understand this so basically. ESPN analytics has something called pass rush win rate. which is how often a pass rusher pressure is able to beat his block within two point five seconds and somehow in some way? The Eagles ranked third overall in the league in this stat non screening. Graham and Eric both rank in the top ten of this number. I have no idea what this means and shut out to our good friends sunset jazz year for alerting me to this unclearly he agrees with everything here which is why he posted it numbs game yet so that is just really something to me and then the other thing. I'll say before turns toward you. Jimmy is like no Fletcher Costs Zero. Stats in the lions game. You mentioned it earlier. That's not gonNA cut it. You know like I just I don so what what are we at here with the pass rush like what is the the deal it all starts with Fletcher Cox. He's not the same player that he was. I think it like I said it has that trickle down effect to the rest of the guys on the line but at some point those other guys got to step up to like like Brennan. Graham got a big contract as season. I I understand like that's a stupid way of of like judging players performances help you know what they got paid off offseason but Eagles did make the decision to give him a lot of money because they thought he was gonna be productive on the field and he hasn't been Darnet started off okay. I think he went had success success. The first six quarterback heads league so that's good. Can you get one. When the quarterback still has the ball they're playing on the defensive ends across the league who have several sacks at this point season at some point the hits something you don't? WanNa be brand grandma over your career where you're just racking up quote unquote pressures rushers and QB hits but getting like five or six sacks of seasons. You don't WanNa be that he's GonNa get to the quarterback is really the bottom line so eagles put a lot of resources in the brain Graham. They thought that dark Barnett would be really good based on a strong start to the season a year ago and I don't fault awesome for that. I don't know why they went out and signed vinny carry as opposed to somebody who can affect the quarterback and then at that fourth defense events by you know obviously they treat Michael Bennett who was uh good football player in gaining back for him and understand. Maybe he's a headache or whatever he is but he was good football player and they could certainly use them. Chris long long still just kind of out there. The Front office decisions on the pass rush front are not looking very good at this point three games in the season yeah and I WANNA get into how a little bit here with the last thing I'll say on the pass rush is that I have a couple of thoughts. I don't really know how much if we're looking about like. Is this going to be issued for the team moving forward forward. I mean it feels like it. I mean do do you see them. Change in all of a sudden even like destroy quarterbacks. I mean it would have to talk. Skits healthier like really quick. starts dominating more. Maybe that helps out but like at seems hard to count on the problem is once you get into the season now. You're going to like have other. You'RE GONNA get nicked up in other ways tale yeah just like Derek he just he suffered an ankle and yes in addition to whatever else he had going into the season here so yeah so that's a concern. I think one thing in coming out of the lions game is I much. We're harping on how the pass rush hasn't been good enough and I agree with that. I'm not disagreeing but I think our little too hard on the defense coming out of the game and the sense of like the only allow twenty points seven and then again. Four of those are sorry. Six of those points were on two turnovers too short fields with the offense so it's like you know. I'm not you know. I think anyone like saying Schwartz to be fired as like this is. That's you know that's too much. I you know he can be frustrating. Whatever the defense needs it would be better. I agree and they they didn't force any turnovers so that's something I definitely look at them and that's. I think that's a fair criticism. That's a big thing that was missing last year to me they. Ns that's related to the pressure. They turned over teams at a very high rate the super bowl season and allow that because they got out the big lead so offense feeds off defensive vice versa but they have not table to create turnovers and that hurt them for sure yeah oh they got they got a bunch from week to sell like and they should have had more like the way that they had sort of his own blitz. Fletcher Cox drop back into coverage and Matt Ryan throws her. I told me drops it so you know you got to you got to make the plays when they're there and and I understand that Fletcher Cox on the Jugs Machine for twenty minutes after every practice but why not kid someone make a play and then the last thing on the pass rush for me in terms of the performance against our thoughts on it is just so Jim. Schwartz has blamed coverage a lot for the lack of Patras success. I don't know how much I believe that mm. That's not to say don't believe it. I think it could be an issue. I don't because I think I think back to what it was third and eleven against the Lions and Brandon Graham. I thought like one he's matchup like like pretty soon like right away against the right tackle there and like US pretty much Stafford's face as soon as he possibly humanly could have been and Stafford chops set up an image villas wide open and good ball from Stafford but like you know like what is burning Graham or what's the pass rush supposed to do more on that play and that's just one rep but looking looking at like the average time to throw for the quarterbacks eagles have faced this season. These numbers come courtesy of Pro Football Focus Case keenum twenty eighth out of thirty seven quarterbacks in a release time meaning twentieth slowest wow. I didn't know that yes that's telling Matt. Ryan was third quickest in week to the but that's that's his game mm-hmm. That's his game in the blitz. Latin game and then Matt Stafford was thirtieth out of thirty four so it's not like these the point here is talent. These quarterbacks are getting the ball right. Matt Ryan Did but case Matthew Stafford. Were not getting into the ball very quickly so that's like I think about that. I don't feel like I have a good answer. are not fully reconciled that in my mind they play the Falcons every year and they get pressure Matt Ryan. They do getting to the kind of the Blaine here a little bit. I think so we should probably talk about Harry. Rosen a little bit coming out of this game and looking at some of the issues with this team you look at the past few. Kinda hit on some of the personnel things they're not you. Trading Michael Bennett not bring back Chris long signing vinny curry. some people are blaming blaming the for not trading for Davey UNCLOUDY. I just don't think that that was a no brainer still and I also think on that lake. If you have to fix your pass fresh couple weeks before the season. You've already screwed up. You know what I mean. I think the moves needed to be made earlier anyway. That's not to say that you couldn't do that move but I just don't think that was the greatest answer. I want to share with you here. Jimmy some good tweets from friend of the show Derek Sarli of eagles blogs he had some. I don't know if you saw these. I kind of like these and I wanna get your thoughts on him so he put out to tweets. One of them was that Howie Howie Roseman might be the Nick foles general managers or we have a longer year yeah. I guess so care I'm Gary. I'm curious. Did they explain that up. No He's just it was just a theory wasn't saying definitively. He's just like two theories you put out there and then he suggested an alternate theory which is intrigued by that. I'd love to hear him. UNPACK Alabama more yeah me too yes so if you're listening to Eric please do this. Alternate theory is the Heisman is the defensive minded head coach of general managers so this one unpacked a little bit more he said good at the things you can readily find deficient in the thing that matters more and get people hired away once it is displayed defensive-minded head coach. you know they have these offensive coordinators who get hired away. I'd like I'd like to hear unpack that a little bit more to I don't I don't know fully worries going with that but I think aliens Joe Douglas Dough Douglas like you know like drafting in theory argument. I guess in like so so you bring in that Guy Okay we have him and he's helping the team now but also you're. GonNa lose him because he's he's. He's saying like defense in the NFL is probably more more easy to kind of find. You'll need to necessarily make your head coach that way and I'm guessing he's kind of saying that you know he's comparing that to managing the cap and like personnel perssonel evaluation yeah so that was kind of interesting yeah so I think I think how he should be getting a little bit. being put under the microscope here between the pass rush in the draft class. You know looking at the draft does not look good so far. Yeah Mile Sanders you know a good game as receiver encouraging to see that out of him against the lions as runner his numbers weren't bad in terms of Y- average what for one yards per carry but fumbles killer two almost JJ Garcia whiteside mentioned earlier like I don't care at that he's a rookie. I'm not asking him to be all pro player right away but again one hundred and thirty five snaps his two receptions for fourteen yard. You look at receivers other receivers drafted after up even in the league. There's a lot of guys who are producing a lot more in even less playing meantime Jerry McLaren in the second round but Terry McLaren The guy on the steelers his name Johnson few others but yeah you can you can go back and look at the draft and there there are certainly the guys who are producing more than him and it's weird because this is a mistake by touring yet metcalf for sure has played pretty well so far when I looked at JJ during training camp and preseason identified as as him as a guy who could who is a little more polished than other receivers coming out and maybe didn't have he was he had more Polish than upside if that makes sense like I thought like his his he be able to contribute attribute immediately because his smart kid wins at the things that should translate immediately to the NFL maybe produced during training camp and during the preseason games aims so I thought he'd be fine in the same way that like Jordan Mathews produced when he first came out but again with him didn't have much of an upside and it just hasn't been there those clearly really wrong because he's not ready right now. In my opinion he's he's just he's looked lost so far on the field and he hasn't made the plays that he should be making and Peterson they simply said he'll be headed to the vents yeah he did and we'll get into that little bit more when we come back from break here on BGN radio episode eighty two will of injury report get into some legals versus packers preview and so we will be back after this baseball truly it is awful. I'm phillies writer. Justin inclu join me every week along with John Stolnis Liz Rozier and Dr Trevor Strunk as we discuss all the ways the phillies of hurt us on our podcast hidden season as well as historical oracle anecdotes and raw emotional ramblings on our other shows continued success and the dirty inning subscribe to the good fight and you'll get conversations with insiders analysis of breaking taking news and stats stats stats together. We'll survive whatever baseball can throw at US okay. We are back here on. BGN radio. I'm I'm sure you've heard some lovely commercials. Jimmy getting to the injury report here this week. You'll have a new injury on their hands. It would not be an eagles injury report segment segment without another injury happening so round. Darby is out this week and could be out for multiple weeks. I'll just ask you are the eagles better off here. With Sidney Jones it was well Douglas as their starting quarterback they are yeah yeah yeah he hasn't been dead and he clearly isn't one hundred percent recovered from from the ACL tear and it's debatable whether he was even whether he's really even been that great for the Eagles he's always been kind of known as quote. Unquote Eagles will best meet their best cover corner but they're most athletic corner. That's certainly true and I don't think he has that same. I thought was right now off that he had before the injury and Rassoul Douglas's played fine in my opinion sitting Jones played fine. Neither of them have done anything special just yet but they've been okay and Darby has not I mean it's been clear that teams have come out and look to specifically target him and that tells you that that tells you all you need now. the Lions Falcons I guess even Washington have had no fear throwing at him when he's been out there on the field so so instead of Sidney Jones and result of this rotating now. They'll be in fulltime starting on the outside. Obviously you've onto madison the slot steel and then the only thing that's like not great about this. I would say as like you're only down to three corners. I mean they they elevated Craig. James is your fourth Guy so it's like the depth there for the second season row is already being tested. deal mills is not eligible to return until week seven at the earliest so eagles could be getting him back in the future. It's I guess it's really possible that meals could come back before Darby's back depending how along that injury supposed to take an Mike Garoppolo had kind of said that could be a month so we will see Darby's out the two players definitely on this week our Sean Jackson who the Eagles are supposed to be hopeful that you can play in week five clearly missing his deep play ability and then to journey him again then who if the reported timelines to be believed he should be back in like or he should be missing three two or three to five more weeks at this point and that hurts too by the way he that's yeah yeah so sneaky underrated loss because they didn't get anything out of their Ridgway a team spirit week three who are suddenly playing major snaps. That's not that's. It's not so for as much as you know I think flutter Cox is not he deserves blaming whatever it's like also it's it's really amazing that like last year that you'll throw in the spot ah where they were trying to get anything out of anyone out of a defensive tackle not named Fletcher Cock Yeah you know they were bringing in like. Ty McGill like basically having anyone in their next to him and this year they make an effort to fix that by signing Jackson Bring Jimmy Journey and trading on Ridgeway and then you know they're in kind of the same being boat essentially yeah last a little unlucky area getting into the the bigger news of the this week in terms of positive stuff for the eagles off Shawn Jeffrey. He's going to be back this week. Doug Peterson said he is expected to play the Eagles Greg Ward so that kind of shows you that Jeffrey will be back He also said basically that Sean Jeffrey will be not as limited. I think right wouldn't he's planned as if they knew he was playing. I phrased that wrongly but basically what he said. I think it was specifically talking to or asking or answering questions like that. He's not going to be as limited as Dallas got it got it was more of a game time decision while also said with God or they didn't factor. They didn't build the game plan around idea that he would play they said right it came as a surprise is that he played whereas Jeffrey they expect them to play and they gained planned against the packers with with the idea mind that Jeffrey will play so that's good for the Eagles they win the game yesterday if he if yesterday they win on Sunday if the past goes to Jeffrey instead of JJ probably he makes that play. Jeffrey makes that play the eagles will have him back. You know by extension like it's probably great that also take a whiteside is giving this team. Nothing is going back to the bench and now you have Jeffrey the Laura Imac Collins as we mentioned that before the break by the way Jj because I think it was a Berman who asked you know who goes to the bench now the Jeffries Jeffries back as a Mac or as jj and touch honestly JJ. I mean he gave a good reason like gave a reason that didn't make jj look bad bad or he said while Jj plays the same position as Alshon so Hobie they'll be in a backup role but yeah I mean if he didn't it didn't hesitate on that he just basically said Jj so also also maybe we could see an increase. Dow Scott and playing time a little bit I mean he was full participation on Tuesday. We'll see the final injury report. You only played nine snaps. I'm not expecting fighting him to necessarily play like his usual workload if he'd be healthy but I think he could play more than nine snaps by the way we would be remiss if we didn't mention his job to. We mentioned all the other jobs oh yeah his job. That was the worst of them all. It was terrible awful. Didn't he kind of do that too. In the good Lord like you remember what I'm talking about week one where like Carson had him another over over the shoulder catch opportunity and like lit up on the sideline so even before he got hit but it's almost like he's. He's doing something wrong with his hands. I feel like it's like the timing is offer. Some I think he saw that hit comment on that circumstance. It's just weird though 'cause like he's finally going through through his hands. It's like he's closing them too soon or something and then the ball is like hitting it against this weird. I it looks weird and yet obviously the The Eagles scored a touchdown leader on that drive but you as you pointed out to me. It was like two minutes later when you could have used. Those two minutes in the game like there is a video game back in the day for anyone over thirty five years old old might know what I'm talking about. It was called. TNC SURF and they're all different. They're all these different games within the a game like there'd be like a surfing part. There was allegations skateboarding part. There is a Frisbee catching part and I remember that video argued control the guide you have to run under the Frisbee and catch it like these are these are does out terrible video games on the video on the Frisbee won. The Guy who is catching the FRISBEE would run out of his hands in the air and he'd just be running trying to catch the Frisbee. His hands are already in the air and try to try to get like a Frisbee just land and on his hands and that reminds me a little bit of what Dallas got. It looks like running down the field trying to catch these passes. I'm going to need you to get that for voice I am. You're you're going to have to pull that clip in but into a gift and put Goddard's head on that. I'll try to find that. That'd be a next level one there the last injury thing. I want to touch down while you while you look this up. Jimmy is that common grew hill. We'll be back this week. he had already said last week day expected to be back this week and he's been a full participant this week so that's good. It sounds like he could be on a pitch count still so it's not like he's. GonNa be one hundred percent necessarily but I think getting Kamu that is important certainly means less Gary on the field which I think is good for the Eagles and Alexander Brown has been a disaster out there but you you'd really rather have common grew Jay Hill on the field then Zac Brown and have a common was looking anything like the player. He wasn't training camp. I think that's a nice little boost for the defense again. I don't think the linebacker position had really makes makes her bracelets defense but when it can't hurt I feel like I I wonder if Komo garage a new garage hill means less than Dale MHM. That'd be good for a while. I mean instead of having three safety sets you just trust grew your hill to be able to provide good coverage as well. That's a good point. I don't even think about that. He's not a big deal if you could get Sunday off the field to make him less important than cut them into combat ought to be nice. Komo is Komo is legitimately awesome in training camp before he got hurt. He was probably what one of the best players in terms of like dismiss impressive yes S. so every year I do this media poll of stock up stock down. I do it after the tenth practice. where I I asked each media? Guy Gal who who is there every day to give one guy who's stock you think is up from the beginning a training camp until that point and one who stock is down and he'd just gotten hurt like a day a before that I think and just about everyone who not everyone but a lot of people who were answering were like yeah what been Komo but now not uh-huh and then he gives some other answer but he like. If had he not getting hurt. How do you not gotten hurt he. He would have run away with that poll. I wouldn't have even close he would have been he would have destroyed is everybody that's how good a camp he was having for the first week and a half or so of trying to get an. I I I kinda got the vibe from the eagles that they really thought that he had a chance to be a breakout player this year and he's still can just the way that they talked about him. Like The linebacker coach full jol he was saying saying yet can be a regular on the field this year like he made no bones about it and this this is even before training camp began. I believe he made he made just no mistake about it. That Komo was going to the three down linebacker this year and you look at like the snaps that the second linebackers gotten this year. I think week one ZAC Brown was the number two linebacker yet. He played less than fifty percent of the snaps yeah. He was like twenty yeah. It was very low. I'm and then week two. It was more bad I remember the break with the breakout. It was but I think you're going to see more of Komo than you will. Any of the other linebackers that have kind of played that second linebacker role agreed especially if he's healthy and because because he is good against the past to see now let's take a field in those passing situations whereas Zac Brown's really only playing on the quote unquote rundowns yeah when you're saying comments having on a good camp I thought he was like complete complete player. Kinda like he was looking good. He was coming up in run support. He was on good in coverage like you know he kinda flashed. Everything made plays yeah. I mean like he was making an impressive interceptions that kind of thing. It wasn't just that he was. He looked good. He wasn't given anything up. I'm like no he like couldn't like there's there's no way that you couldn't. I didn't notice how good he was playing and just getting him. Back for special teams probably helps you know the intro yeah a week after they give a kickoff return touchdown so I think that that matter matter so that is not the game deciding thing here but I think that certainly helps now getting into this week's matchup eagles versus packers. There's the night football. It's in limbo are Atlema. I should say Jimmy. How are you looking at the matchups in this one. I know you released your matchup column today on Wednesday on Philly voice. Yeah Yeah my biggest fear would be. I guess sort of a psychological issue. This is what the defensive line again going back to that once again you know we've talked a lot about the defensive line here in their lack of production and it's not just us like they've heard that all week all season so far really about how they haven't been productive and they have no sacks and what this whatever breath they've heard all so far. They really got to be careful. They really got to be careful not to be too amped up and overaggressive over eager to make plays in this game because they're facing the best player in the NFL and maybe NFL history at drawing guys offsides taking pre shots down the field in Aaron Rodgers without hardy gets that hard count going guys jumps offsides and then he he's thrown bombs down the field completes fairly regularly he got last week against Denver. The on the I drive no less I drive it gets a jump off sides and it was like a forty five ish yard touchdown bomb two hyphen receiver. MVS Yes yeah they really got to be careful not to come out to over ear again like I said to make plays because if they jump off sides and Barnett was a big offender of that my dog Charlie Barking in the background Charlie Charlie was a big offender that in college anyway did some of that is rookie year last year as well as I think back to the two thousand sixteen like how could you not if you're thinking about this. The packers went up. How could you not think back to two thousand sixteen when packers weren't good even at that point they were like four and seven or something for in six. They weren't good people thought that heels might actually actually beat them. I think deals might have been favorite in that game. Even on the eagles weren't great either and all I remember is just Aaron Rodgers picking apart from apart surgically not even in a way where he's just like launching bombs down the field the whole game like just pretty much just taking Jim Schwartz was giving him because the coroner's playing so far all and it was like all right I I am. I didn't like it was like very dislike methodically. you know I'm sure he was picking his spots when he wanted to take shots down the field when he when he wanted to or when he could food but like for the most part it was just like him seemingly like checking into all right the rain pressure here. Whatever but the plan off all right just check it down here. Get I like it was just way too easy did not town. Djing at all for him in that game and that's that's kind of one of the big things I think about here now I will say so. I kind kind of wonder how good Aaron Rodgers still I'm not saying he's bad by any means. I think he's still really good but does it feel like he's Kinda. Fallen off a little bit. I agree like I thought of him as the best player player in the world yeah at one point out that anymore yeah and for as much as like the packers roster hasn't been around him if he is the best player in the world. They should probably be a little little bit better than they've been yeah right. Isn't that fair to say even with you know. McCarthy probably being a handicap to some extent but now but now you the floor here and like he's not looking like his his offense is not been amazing. They ranked twentieth and Offensive Devi Way through the first three weeks here they have not really lit up in a way that I think they you know they could've in theory of like if if probably as good as we think he is they probably be dominating more and sure enough. Watch them go off against the Eagles so I'm saying now L. in a that could easily chain soon the real thing to me when I look at this packers. Matchup is like that defense is really good. Surprisingly there's talent like you have they brought him. Preston Smith who should know Washington brought in Scenarios Smith from the Ravens like they've added pass rushers to this defense. They you know they have a Mike Patton. They're like it's looking pretty good. They they can rush the passer. Seven point five sacks combined those two guys by the way so far almost quadrupling dribbling the eagles production completely and then like your secondary's good. I mean Gerry Alexander really liked him thought they kinda wanted him for the last year. They is not a chance at home but like there's there's a lot of talent on the packers defense one other thing. I'll mention too by the way on a rogers getting free plays. It's not just on offsides to it's he gets defenses with too many men on the field when they're making substitutions and for gym shorts defense that likes to rotate those defensive Lineman in and out now you've really got to be careful about that too where guide might just not be hustling coming off the field and then Rogers Harry's of last year when she gets a playoff. Get you know you you get the twelve men on the field penalty. He's taking a shot down the field so it's not just the offsides that to where you know he's he's just awesome awesome in that regard and like. I said maybe the best player ever at getting free plays and meals are coming off a week they had not enough men on the field ten on the field for JD because big run forty four yard run into so that's something now that was kind of a little bit of a freak situation offense fumbles derrick hurt they didn't have it's a good change situation where you're hurrying back on the field after turnover still has to be fixed hell for sure yeah there's no excuse for it yeah yeah and John Schwartz even said you know we got you know to quoting you. GotTa Be Better Yup. Do you have any other thoughts on the matchup specifically this week anything else that's what do don't think about like. Davante Adams against against these corners He hasn't been like amazing right he doesn't he's not telling you a great star now but he is amazing. They are very talented so I just I I mean I have no stats like oh wow he's got over ten touchdowns each of the last three years so I just looked up you know how many touchdowns now that compares rather to the rest of the NFL so from two thousand sixteen two thousand eighteen thirty five touchdowns for him. There's only one player that has more than him in the NFL Tonio Brown and you only have one more brown had thirty six Vonnie Davante Adams had thirty five and then the next closest player twenty eight so he's got seven more her than John Jay Hopkins who has twenty eight Mike Evans Atari Kelly each at twenty five so he's a guy you can find the end zone but again like so beagles really beaten the were so far this year by guys make plays down the field and you know I'm sure he's made his plays down the field but I view him sort of more as like a like a physical kind of receiver catch point guy for sure who can break tackles after the catch get yards after the catch. I think their best match matchup against the Eagles because of that is Sidney Jones. Maybe now resort now because I think Brazil actually matches up okay against him because because he he is a little more physical. Oh yeah that's what I was saying. I thought the way from the packer standpoint like they probably GonNa get him on Sidney Jones. Now sure we'll visit yeah right right so it's weird because I guess I feel a little bit better about the secondary just because you know Darby is not going to be there to get picked on the floor but you know it's not like Sydney. The end result have looked amazing this season. I think they've looked relatively better than Darby but that doesn't not saying a whole lot has not been very good so when I look at this match I'm not feeling amazing about this packers defense this eagles defence going up against this packers offense like how could you the pass rush. Isn't there you feel like. Rogers is going to get his we again. We've seen him have success in shorts back in two thousand sixteen like I don't really know. I don't really know what makes me feel good about the defense going up against this offense. It's other than just their offense hasn't been fully functional. You want one thing I will say that about this matchup the one thing that the packers defense hasn't really done well so far the sheer stop stop the run that is true so like did you watch the packers broncos game yeah. I've seen a little bit yeah so the the the Broncos are able to run on and they've actually given up one hundred thirty per game but more importantly four point nine yards per carry which is especially high given that they've you know the three now so they've had Leeds in every game and the eagles really haven't super well yet. They've had moments where Jordan Howard has been able to grind out some tough yards run guys over and things things of that nature. They had big plays. Sporadically from meanwhile centers has made a few plays be placed down the field in the passing game but you know he had that one ron call back but he really. Kinda hasn't broken out to the way that I think people would have liked to have seen so far. Maybe this is a weak because the packers. Do you like to play a lot of defensive actor. Doug mentioned on Monday. I believe it was that they'll play a lot of five defensive backs six and at times even seven defensive backs. Obviously they're not playing seven defensive acts on. I ten but you know It is a defense that I think the packers defense would much more. I prefer to give up yards on the ground then they would through the air and when you still have the Sean Jackson out and that's kind of still the way that they're playing lane it baby I mean I'm not I'm not a big like quote. Unquote established the Ron Guy. If they're going to give it to you then you may as well take it if if he's still have the sean out who will you run the ball with Sanderson Howard Leixoes split last week. Yeah you mix it up. Yeah okay so that'll do it for our preview portion portion of podcasts. We will get back next with our. NFL PACEY SPREAD FOR NFC East teams including Final Eagles packers prediction and then kind of looking up a little bit to the upcoming stretch. The Eagles have here so we will be back after the back after this. Hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson Jason. I'm Ryan Nanny. 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No it's all tied up so I guess the stakes are big here going into the third week of our predictions here and let's start off with a NFC east rivalry match shop the Washington football team coming off a short week. He's playing in New Jersey against the giants who have the best quarterback in the NFL. Now and Daniel Jones Tame and the giants are favored by three. How do you feel about this game to me. How do you feel about Daniel Jones. I don't know how I I don't know how this line is only three of all along. I've thought that Washington is the worst team not only that vision but also in just the entire. NFC Dolphins aside right all the NFC the NFL you had just the NFC NFC oh they're the worst team in the NFC. I've had people debate me on that and you you too. I think that you thought the giants were worse too right. I don't think you can prove that well yeah. I'm thinking Oh yeah okay. I don't necessarily think that's totally decided yet. This is only I guess this line is only three because saquon is out. Maybe yeah I can be the only reason why I don't know how you can look at Washington and go yeah. I'M GONNA put my money on that and they're sticking with keenum. They're not putting Haskins in. DC now okay now that I I think that's what Jay Gruden said this far. I mean who knows but I doubt it yeah. What's the point yeah. I know why you're not going anywhere. Get Him some experience who cares if he gets who cares as we. The looks bad cares if anything I thought I would think gruden would want him in there is what if he looks good and then try to save my job you're going nowhere with keenum keenum finally finally looked horrible by the way in that. Latvian finally like he had good numbers through the first two weeks in his like yeah I still I know he's not good like he's going to. He's going to not be good eventually and finally he was very bad. I mean granted. Inequity helped like that bears pass rush is again. Their numbers aren't great great in terms of the number of socks. They have on the air but they were legitimately awesome in that game. Yeah I'll take the giants as well so giants might have three in. My opinion is very very easy. Call it is interesting that it is three because the three number means. That Vegas thinks that these two teams are equal. I don't see I don't see that at all. Not Enough respect for dinner. Joensuu aunts who again looked looked good overall in our these promising that giants defense really is horrible though but and then obviously you know seek one out to hurts but the giants have some hope now to me they have some holiday have a reason to watch games this year yeah and that's not so great for the Eagles getting into the next game. cowboys are favored by three on the road in New Orleans against the saints who surprise me at least this weekend by marching into Seattle in beating the seahawks with Teddy Bridgewater after starting at quarterback now cowboys beat the saints last year when the game was in Dallas which is probably one of the most frustrating watches of the year of your an eagles fan you you know counting on the saints too after watching the Glove Eagles to seven being like all right well at least the cowboys will get their turn to and they didn't and actually beat the saints So do they go to know here Jimmy in these last two years year do the cowboys win in New Orleans winning and covering in this game aw boy because I look at the saints and first of all yes you go into Seattle and you win. It's impressive no matter how you slice it still they. They got a fumble return for a touchdown early in that game. They got a punt return touchdown early in that game they got up and then they were just able to kind of bleed it out. This seattle team are they good like Russell. Wilson is awesome but the first two weeks of the season they barely beat the bengals of home one point and then they've they barely beat the steelers who they knocked out. Big Ben in that game right there are the ones who knocked him out and like halfway early to Rudolph Rudolf came in and they're Kinda able to shut them down there after but then was lost to them too so they had two wins the season but they are kind of on the of the unimpressive variety of we're GONNA call up at and then week three you know as we mentioned lose at home to a Teddy Bridgewater led saints team so anyway I I just look at this saint steamatic. They're they're obviously not the same with without true brees. Let's be honest guys pretty good so far yep so I I haven't covering on the road. Would you say the saints of Lake fraudulence I would not no. I think they'll be a reference to last year if he didn't pick that up now I did not when when I think Alvin Kamara Mark Ingram called the eagles fragile. Okay sorry sorry I would take the cowboys as well There's this zero percent hands. They'RE GONNA lose this game like there. There's not any chance that I will be wrong about this at all. No one is going to be able to point back to this and say jinx thinks them or anything like they are definitely one hundred percent going to beat the saints in New Orleans so they're going to be four now. It's going to be tough for the eagles. Just you know that's just how it is before we get to eat goes packers akers. Let's let's take a minute to look at the cowboys schedule by the way sure let me just pull it up real quick because it is not super difficult here that I start with three rebe bottom five teams in the NFL Washington then now. I'm sorry the giants giants with Manning then Washington right with manning then Washington and then the dolphins and to those games are at home to and then they get the saints minus drew brees. They'll get the packers which will be tough test. I guess week five the angry but they get them missile. Yeah they get them home. They have the jets on the road thereafter and you're probably going to get them without Sam Darnold. He's going to be out a while. I think it's possible we offer the year the problem with Mono isn't that if doctor Jimmy I've had no. I had this explained to me by Dr 'cause I. You've had it right yeah. I had it but so one of the symptoms is your spleen becomes enlarged and susceptible to bursting if it gets hit teeth. That's the problem. It's not necessarily that you're tired or you're sick or you have like these flu like symptoms. That's not the issue in terms of getting back on the field. It's that your spleen becomes sort of a arrest and you can die if if you're if you ruptured spleen actually I I think there is a quarterback who had ruptured spleen in a game. Let's say Chris Sims the ring a bell to you. I don't know anyway but your spleen. That's the problem with with mono apparently so I don't think he's GonNa. I don't think he's coming back anytime soon so they'll pro. What would you say it's more important than winning or living probably on that roster living okay on super bowl contending ouster messed up the NFL's yeah. I think they're gonNA get him without without Darnall then the eagles week seven yeah actually. I don't even know if it's week seven. Let me go to Kevin page. It is the by okay to give eagles who knows how bang the will be by that point and they get there by they head to the giants who probably won't have saquon back yet. That's week nine so saquon probably GONNA be like two weeks six. He probably won't be back for that game. So David Janssen donate now not great for the Eagles right or the cowboys fans that'll be throwing might be a dumpster fire back in my face in January. Well I mean you know. Fortunately the cowboys will not choke at all in the playoffs like you know they. They never do every year. in clearly doc is is really good and he's not limited in any capacity and doesn't limit that team ceiling so I'm sure I'm sure it all work out for them. even though if they do stumble the schedule dug a little harder for them in later edge our yes yes so late in the season they get they get the the Vikings which you know they're kind hot and cold the patriots. They get the bears on the road. They have the rams at home there at Philly so they do have the back half their schedules definitely only a little harder all right so let's get into our final eagles pretty long before we go there was one more quick thing on the the cowboys and choking in the playoffs so the year end and the and that dumpster fire thing too so the year that they went thirteen and three and they had the one seed and doesn't sixteen yeah. They lost the packers in the in their in their first playoff game in the divisional round the playoffs I guess somebody had posted the former coaches had went after me on twitter I don't he was a number of this was the linebacker Dave Campo. Yeah okay are ya Sir Dave Campo comes after and he throws this ten reasons now. It wasn't even that it was a I was. I was very critical the goal of their draft that year because I thought that Ezekiel Elliott was a terrible user resources with the fourth overall pick and and I wasn't necessarily killing the selection of Dak.. I killed them for I mean they missed that draft up. They got lucky that they got back frankly because they you went there. They try first of all I wanted once. They would've taken at four but the eagles traded up ahead of them got him. They tried to treat Upper Paxton Lynch in the first first round. They didn't get bin. They're gonNA take Connor Cook by the Raiders Yep traded up ahead of them and they snag Connor Cook from out with from from from under them and then they just settled on Dak Prescott in the fourth round so I killed them for that for you. You know just messing up the draft that way and they got lucky that you know extremely lucky. I mean you know if they draft Paxton Lynch there. No Romo is hurt like he usually always does. They're stuck with so I killed them for the process of that situation and then Campo comes after me. This is the week after the regular season ends so this is the week before four the wildcard round of the playoffs. Dave Campo comes after me. You know obviously there's a ton of cowboys fans follow him and now they're all over me. Am I mentioned inches just got destroyed for the better part of like a week and a half leading up to their game in reply do anything just let them have just let them have the moment by did make favored at each each and every one of them as soon as that. Mason crosby kick went through the by the way that Mason crosby kick were kind of starts out to the left and you're like Oh my God and then it fixed itself and went back in like for if if you go back and you watch the replay that I recommend to the listeners here to go back and just watch it like twenty different times and pick out a different person in the crowd behind the end zone watch him just focus on one person at a time and just watch watched are the glimmer of hope for like the split second and then when the ball correct itself and goes back through the uprights see them like get defeated uh-huh amazing that your homework assignment for this week but then as soon as I soon kicked through I just replied to like every single one of the people that came after me that week and it took me a while it took me like a solid hour to reply because there are so many I mean it was a it was like over one hundred people that the tweets that I'd favor David with the with the purpose of replying if the cowboys lost idea like right away got back to every single one of them and that's it's the most fun that I had that year. I think that's why you're here. Thank you my friend. Let's get into our final prediction. Ills at packers packers are five point favorites in this game about right. It's the first line that came out the West Gate. I think Vegas who's three and I saw that in what I knew that was gonna go up. I think the other I think other first lines came up like I guess the majority of the of the lines that that came out initially were like like four or four point five. I'd seen that it that it had it had gone up to five but that's about where I would have had it. I was talking to mclane after the game and we are guessing on what the lines would be. I thought it will be five point five. He said four point five but I guess it landed a five yeah. What do you like. I'm GONNA take well. Let me let me start this way. I don't feel great about this. Matchup you look at history and Green Bay the packers. They are forty nine thirty in three against the spread at home favorite favorite since the Aaron Rodgers era began their forty nine thirty three hundred thirty three that a sixty two percent cover bed is that's the best in the NFL in terms of covering in that span so if you're talking about the spread their advantage of playing on Thursday on top of it now although it surely that's factored into this bread and going into destroyed up so taking the spread out of it the packers are sixty five sixteen and one is straight up in those games since since two thousand eight and that is the second best overall winning percentage only behind the Patriots number one and to make that even more impressive ten Aaron Rodgers has miss ten home games in that stretch there and they're only three six one in those homes so obviously you know if he had played in those they're probably GonNa have to record so so just to put put that in context. This is a really tough spot for the eagles like there's ample reason to not feel good about them. Now you have done okay as a road dogs. They're six and nine a straight up dogs which actually ranks tenth best. That's not terrible that since two thousand sixteen they're also eight and seven against the spread in those fifteen games which is tied for fourteenth ask also they haven't done terrible on the road is Rhode. Underdogs is the point there with all that said. I just think you know you look at Aaron Rodgers going up and even if he's not you know what Dan Rogers once was. I think he's going to be able to have success against the eagles defense. I think in eels offense that is still missing to Sean Jackson getting off on Jeffrey back should help but let you still missing. Sean the running backs. I don't really know what you can even fully expect out of them like you know. Packers should be vulnerable against the run but like how much do you actually trust the eagles running back to look great are look good and be effective so with all that said and with me feeling like the Eagles are going going to lose this game and the the packers are just the better team in the GonNa win. I am a hundred percent confident in taking the Eagles to win this game outright because it makes no. Oh sensitive all headed back surround against the wall. I I think they really need to win this game. the history. Jimmy of you'll starting out to two and two verses one and three is pretty significant. I'm sure it has they've made the playoffs in nine out of their last ten to in to start and they've won at least one playoff game in five of those was ten so season like not terrible. If you're too into historically you're fine fine now. If you're one and three you'll have one just one playoff game and their last if one of their last ten one three starts so that was what had that had been two thousand three it was to to it was when they went championship were that so I'm taking the US away in the basically because like I'm just completely lately irrationally confident they will somehow win this game. I think it's a situation where everyone's like. Oh the packers are easily. Just GonNa win this and I think the eagles will pull off an upset in overtime tables will win twenty four to twenty one. I Have Eagles losing this game. That's all well side by the way thank you with your back against the wall point. I do like I remember last year. Are you look at it would have been week fifteen where they're heading out rams yeah yeah what were they like fourteen hundred dollars or something crazy something like that and the vibe felt so terrible around the team at the time yeah it was the winds injury. Yeah it finally did no chance yeah and then bang may win. Now I'm with you on on the ad makes no sense but you should go up linnet. I actually I just one thing is that I think it does make sense in that Doug. Peterson has rallied the troops before like they have fought for for him yet in in tough spots so that's all I think they lose but they cover okay so we the same on authorities then the giants cover and you're the cowboys covering and you have the biggest covering yeah not not Super Fun. I know the Eagles all right yeah well. That's that doesn't count as a cover. Yeah yeah hold on. Let's that's fine one game that we can pick as a tiebreaker like maybe I don't know Minnesota's Kogyo what he would he would. He got on that one. I'll take Minnesota. Oh Two plus two. I'm seeing here. I'll take the bears do okay. I just think Tuber Skis that I'm not. I'm definitely not a custos guy in like one of the most anti cousin sky but I'd like Devon coke a lot. I'll take the bears on giants Super Bowl theory. Okay anything else to me so that we go there. Breaker breaker now authored the packers do have a a good press box brad though that's important they do that. They do that up well and you can see that review on Philly voice once Jimmy writes that up. I'm guessing probably pay Friday morning so it makes her to check that out make sure to check out make sure to take obviously. WE DHINGRA NATION DOT COM out we will have more coverage of this game coming out of the game and everything here on Bgn radio so make sure you subscribe wherever you can apple podcast Google podcast spotify stitcher all that good stuff make sure you leave reviews. He was ratings on Apple podcast. Tell us what you like. We don't like give us some feedback. You can rip Jimmy for the commercials he makes as some people have been doing a a lot of things we had any this week but they'll be back in a week for Shabila. People will be disappointed. 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Episode 13: So What? Who Cares! It's Therapodic!

So What? Who Cares!

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Episode 13: So What? Who Cares! It's Therapodic!

"Ah welcome welcomes here's finish. This is our drunk episode. All right you want to see. Yeah yes break me off. Show me what you got. I don't want no so what who cares. Oh my god. I love that. We have here today with us from theropod yet. Doubt high via camera high kaley wa. I'm good how are you. Oh my god this is so fun. Thanks for having me on. No problem in the pod pad. We were there a couple of weeks ago with you. This is the tits. You guys have a really great setup. Yeah it's a lot of rearranging a lot of days boredom and not doing much. I've seen it on the instagram stories. Funkaway but i feel like you finally got it like you got the love sack where you need it. It's really it's really working the vibe readjust the sack because sometimes when i cook my neck watching fucked up videos readjust the sack because your neck is crooked some days. You gotta rearrange the sec sometime all when it sticks to your leg. You gotta rearrange your sack Ben there especially after boy shaved a sack it sticks to the fucking in. Thi- what a scrotum little word. I love squealed. Okay so this our drugging wrong. In at bezos guys. Today i'm hammered. So we are sitting here with kierra loom. How you guys. And she has her own. Podcast called theropod. Which we've been on before. I don't even remember what episode number it is. But we've been on it before your episode fucking hull. Lara's can listen to it. What's it called it's called. it's called so. I shouldn't have bucket in front of my bff. So what who cares without. Yeah that's definitely sage on thought for our first official gas besides donna. We'd have our little special friend. My heart is so warm about it. And i can't tell you how many people have listened to our episode with the three of us and just like wanted they were like i just wanted to be hanging out with you guys. You sounded like you were having so much fun. And i was like 'cause we were and they said cure like you had a boston accent and i was like no those two just bust out accents and follow their lead happens. It's so fun out of each other. The banta yeah and sometimes we forget that like other people are in the room with us and just keeps going and we do have to have like take a step back a we forgot. There's people here firminy the past. I'm going to us. I'm an avid listener too. So what who cares. And i noticed like your banter at the beginning is always like high sage high kaley. How will you honey. it's your. It's your boston. Aunt's like with bud light and sake. That's exactly what we were going for. A coworker like a couple of weeks ago. Actually probably when we first started this podcast. He was like do you guys do. Why do you talk like that. Now it's like oh this is just the just the banta and he's like okay. I get it. I get it and he was like. I've just never heard you talk. Like that. And i was like well. That's not really talk. Saw my friends like oh. I your boston. Accent was coming out. Like that was how i naturally i know i was like. Oh no. I don't talk like that really know why we do it. It just happens. I feel like certain friends. Bring bring out of you. You know what i mean like. I have friends that. Like i bust out like an english accent with or whatever like just my mom and i talk southern to each other whenever she if she called me right. Now it'd be like hey and like sheena and she knows play. Yeah we just. The ice melted in my high noon. It's like a little water. No but i don't mind it. It's not bad we're drinking high noon's today to new knees it is it. Is it energy drink. No it's peach. Oh soda honey of because it's a little late in the day for your girl to be drinking cast away and ethel over here by eight. Yeah what time do you go to bed to get up for the radio. Well what time do i go to bed. Or what time should i go to. What time do. I usually am in bed by like nine. What time for thirty fuck. It's not enough. It's not enough show. I should be in bed by eight liang at eight thirty. Might like to see. Other human beings go to bethel personally key he wakes up at seven or eight. Yeah so he's up till eleven so he's up hanging while you're yeah hanging Playing win What the fuck is even playing lately screams at the tv. it's awful. it's just it's i can't i video games like come out and be like you did two fucks in three shifts and i can't sleep do shits. That's enough track if he does one more. Fuck i'm gonna march out there and say my piece fuck out. We've been on the roof. Yeah it's tough. That's not a bad room. i would fucking sleep out. There no would be quite pleasant actually looking at the picture of us on the roof right now. All three of us special time. Golden our allies look at. You can almost see the golden gate bridge of portsmouth right there. I was gonna say. I say gee you confused. We weren't in san francisco line. No look at that. Green moldy bridge the green. Yes the moldy people call it. No no. that's just what it is. I don't know i wouldn't spend redone recently. Like i forget. If that's the sarah long or whichever one is but every time i'd and i go striper fishing i go. You haven't been on a sarah long before dad like kind of a bad joke to say to your debt but it's so funny we laugh. We laugh every time. This is that a dick joke with your dad. Know you've ever been with sarah. Long dal slept with sarah long. You have been under under sarah long and he laughs he laugh. Okay we laugh. Sarah families weird. Y'all have a family like that gets really really raunch. Speaking of fucked up our fax. Yeah i segue k-league right Here you go ahead first okay. Do it This one's stuck with me disturbed me to no end ever since i learned it and perhaps it will do the same for you. Go sure okay. Did you know almost every single human has microscopic mites. they're like eight legged creatures that are living in their face. That's i'm not okay. My curled yet. They spent her entire life on our faces and like they eat on our face and they came off on our face they mate and then they finally die on our face. Can they fuck and get rid of my fucking mask knee right now. I have the worst breakouts can do that. They like big pours and they can not lie. Pinata have the biggest of all time poor whore. That's why they're i'm a big fat or or a really. Do i got bad ports. You don't i think the mites like that but they they live in other too but they liked the face the best. They've also been found in jena tale. Young is and on breasts that crabs. Yeah hit little tip. My i guess. I guess it depends on your pores on your titties. Kaley made me feel her titty today. She's got a. What is that birthmark. I don't know i'm trying to figure it out. They tell you the check for lumps. I think we gotta started checking checking for mites. Can't see them there. So so teeny but i guess they have legs like they can be compared to a spider. That's what that's what really didn't sit. Well with no thank you. I lived my lashes. How about the spiders. That's why i don't like that. I know well you said you wanted to fucked up federal. We love myself out. Oh no that was perfect. that's everything. Hey really funny you real funny. But that's in my list is fucked up facts god because can shit. I been good like i. I think i only missed one episode of yours. But i was like oh god watch appeal of rerun fucked up back i know. No don't i scroll through. I was like. I'm pretty sure i have heard it and then i was like it's in my list but sage. Do you want to go to you. Want me door. I can go next here. We go. he has mine in an emergency. Coconut water can be used for blood. Plasma you can make a lot of money off your plasma okay. So if you if you're in a pinch you just fucking donates and plasma donate urine painful to donate stoney. I don't know i mean. I know it's super important donated blood before. Yeah times loan so much. I don't like needles getting my finger. Giving the gift of life we live out. In the worst part fingerprint is the worst part the worst fucking. It's my biggest fear in the whole world is getting my finger prick. I can't do cuts and things like that i got. I gave blood at a radio station event. And like because i felt like it was a blood drive and i was. Oh i'm gonna look like an asshole posting it. So i to give the gift of life and the woman who took my blood wincing when she was squeezing my finger to prickett and stuff and she was like if you can't do this and you definitely can't like she was like calling me a pussy the five whatever bit parts the best just like blood. Plasma coconut water has levels of high sodium low potassium. It should only be used in absolute emergencies because adverse effects may be fever fragment headaches hugging itchiness it's the mites to more achey sensations. You may be because acting up you know. It could be the coconut water. You just injected into yourself. That's interesting about the coconut water thing. No i love coconut water. When i'm hung over hung over don knapp but i do love. Coconut up yeah i. it's not. it's not the. I don't love the taste of it but it does work for me when among over. She's like Yogurt water l. That's a really good seamen. Ooh him little mom. If you're listening it does taste. I'm so sorry it does taste a little bit. Like seen mom. I know you chuck debts now. I know that you know. Sarah longwell okay. She knows you well. What about you kayleigh. So i did a fact. That kind of i picked because of you. keira rule. Ready a sea turtle skier has a turtle can weigh as much as a water buffalo. Oh probably does show. I will water. Buffaloes what are they gonna tunnel. I bet a lot. Yeah turtle that like ways as much as a fricken car think about how old they get and how big that frigging shell and thinking about even a little turtle like how have heavy is your turtle on the scale. Recently we don't want to wash it doesn't matter physical yet. But i can tell you that we have this rock that she climbs up onto like son herself and get dry and it's like she's getting so tubby that it sinks. Where does it grow. It's not that it's the shell the shell garage. Totally alexis get fat. Is the head of the national. Been noticing a double chin turtle go precious saying show. She really is even when she eats live goldfish. I couldn't believe that the other day. When i saw that actually very insane i i wish we had done a disclaimer for list for the turtle. Oh why because. I have a friend. I don't know if she wants me to mention her name. That's okay but she has a fear of turtles. A legitimate fear yes. What's her fear. She does not like turtles. You're not gonna do. It's like you know doesn't the whole show. Save him off the road though they do. Yeah that's not just like turtles. Eight people don't like certain things she don't like third also federal to you corey graham or who you can post a picture mean snap. I'm holding a snap fishing game recently. The one we'll go to local baby shower. We have so many turtle things turtles come up a lot. You're telling the turtles personal story. That i can tell a different time that about the lucky turtle. I accidentally stole from a boutique. In boaty t boutique in portsmouth. And i had a series about buck after it fell into some bad karma it. It's a weird story. It's a long story. Oh you have the tell now. You stole a pipe bursts at my school monday so i got the day off so girls who went to brunch. We got flay wait. How long ago was sites in most as this was right before cove like march so this recently recent we go. we're downtown. I was like. I thought this i know this. Is this happened this year. No wonder how sitting when this happened. I'm in new market. And so i was like. Let's go patik whatever's we go to this little place and they had like really close and they had this little like standard like little lucky charms in it could be a real turtle. I have it in my car. Actually carry it wherever i go got. It was a real turtle from i was. I didn't know. I thought maybe like people sell bamboo so i thought maybe there was no seizures like stealing the little tiny baby turtle out of this pond in batik because it was like. I don't know what we could see too. But this is like if i'm ben ash. It's a very weird series of events so we go into this place. I accidentally i'm. Add touch everything. I need to see this is before kovin so like a week before we shut down your touching everything. I'm looking and i dropped this lucky turtle on the ground and i couldn't find it anywhere like i saw go under rack clothes like it was gone and i was like i'm not gonna fucking tell us woman i'm in line to like buy the sweater. Whatever so later. That night. I go back to the house. I'm house sitting at and making the bed before bad. Because i always make my bad before bed. I'm fucking weird. Who does that. I don't know anyways. I go to like. Take the sheets off the bed like flattening out like shake him out and what goes fucking flages across. The room is the fucking lucky turtle charm in your room. It was wrapped up in the sheets of the fuck in bed. I was sleeping. And and i don't know how it got there. I have no explanation. Didn't lean did your clothing or hollow you out. I thought it was trying to shoot. But i shot go under the rack of clothes. Okay and now. My series of bad luck begins. Is kobe default. God oh my god. She caused bad luck. Because of this fucking little oh my. I getting a shirt that. I bought at the boutique that night that i found a lucky turtle mind you like i didn't pay for those lucky turtle and i am such a like karma person then i'm like i didn't pay for it. I've never stolen thing in my fucking life and i was like if i didn't pay for this. It's it's this is why this looks happening next morning. I go to aroma. Joe's my aunt just so happens to be behind me. She couldn't couldn't get a hold of me. She was going to pay for my order. Couldn't get hold of me. So i had to pay for my order. Multiple bad things like my car didn't start. I ran out of gas all kinds of shows. So i'm seeing there going faulk five five bad things in one day. I was like fucking a. It's stupid turtle. It's the fucking turtle so i go back to the boutique that day and i was like. I'm so sorry to pay for this. Like i don't know how i brought it home with me. She's like you have to do this. Like four dollars. I was like. I can't live with this on my conscience for you. Tell her the whole story about how pull everything she goes. It's really funny. Because i remember you guys coming in yesterday and she goes after. You guys left the craziest things started happening. She goes i had a mannequin fault into the window in almost smashed the glass. It just fell over. Almost it was cracked the glass but it could have smashed it. She goes today. I had a a rack of clothing. That i put outside for people. Look at it went. All the way down almost went into fuck in like where legends is. It almost went into traffic at got like down because this place is right next to a water. Monkey has been having really bad luck. All day for the four hours was like me too. Here's four dollars and luck restored for all and it was the weirdest fucking thing and i am convinced. It's because i somehow stove lucky turtle. It's good that you returned it in all was right in the universe. She's like i don't know why he did that. I said i can't sleep at night. i'm losing sleep over. Person was no pure of heart. I put my back look for return. I know right. You know they say if you put your carriage back at the grocery store then you're you're that's the true test of good person. So do you do that. I absolutely put the fuck good back in absolutely. We're all good people tell you who it really annoys it when i go to do it because it takes so much time. Donna finds it annoying. Why you have to go back because it's somebody does donald even in a parking spy. I'll she'll make me do it. Someone else twin so she may go by yourself one time what did she do. She should probably. I should probably to take a car most of the time. Well someone left. A car in a dented. My door company ripped like my sorry. I shouldn't say ripped cracked my side view mirror off but my grandma's car has a definite that i'm about to get because of carriage to you know put your carriage of the way they shop. Whatever you guys call it. Who cares you know when the wind will blow and fuck your car up. Yeah you don't want that. I'm sorry that's my lucky turtle stories. We always talk about turtle. Somehow when we get together so meaningful so beautiful show is gonna love this episode more than she already was going to. She likes drunk stories but she likes airpods inner ears and she listens i mo slope cody. I mostly play. Podcast like in the kitchen. She's women give me more of this and bubbles come out. Oh my god stop levels. Let's all do a pick your poison today and then we'll pick pick your pick one that you would wanna do out of the three we're gonna and then we have three options to pick one so cena i. Hey would you rather call everyone you've ever slept with and tell them you have hiv or eat a popsicle made from judge judy's pissed or cut off your own arm with a pocket knife readers against age. Call everyone you've ever slept with and you have hiv. I'll do and then. But what i'm going to edit out his texts. Jk the next morning. I don't think that's funny. I think you take the joke and you run with it for the rest. You'll agree i agree. I do it. I would have a lovely little summer summary day. You know hot day by the pool. Judge judy's piss me too. I was judy for halloween. So i'll take coming I mean. I'm not putting my own arm off without fucking by far the worst yet. No way that one's out from fucking the star. Yeah that's all might really try and eat a popsicle. P p p p pops up but had pretended lemon. Lemon mom custard. I guess. I guess. I guess i would do the top cicle. Because cheers p pops for all colin. Everybody and tone them. I have the have sometimes i. I know this is people. Ops people ops all the time ryan calls it pops you. It's like a thing we we do. We go all. Up pop does he go play with play with my people up. How does he does. We're going to have to edit that also say sack instead of sacks q. Sack and people ops. Do you guys remember. I told you about ghost. We love it about what goes tweens. Did utah goes we wait. I think you did. Yeah i do. My husband will wrap audis naked. Like he'll route sweeney in a sheet and make like spooky goes who goes to haunts my fucking weird. But it's funny. You saying that. In me going. I have ryan to start doing that. I love antics about p. Pops and things like that. It sounds like he's down for he. Pops he's down for ghost wings. Okay but if lee like when. I have kids someday. I'm not gonna tell them to call p pops i'm gonna say it's a penis and a vagina and if anybody says it's something else telling me go fuck him little as an inside joke. Oh it's a big old fucking people. I'm not gonna say all right. I'm not going to blow your ego up that much. say a glass. i'm just oh. God bless you and your pop. We love you okay. It's as microscopic as the mites in your face single thirty and thriving. I if you're interested accessory seven five three on all night you fucked up about that song really a personal fact so you know that song ginny ginny. It's about jenny. I grew up with a girl named jenny. She's probably not listening to this jenny. I remember this her cell phone number. And i used to have it and i don't anymore. If you rearranged all the numbers in eight seven five zero nine was her fucking cellphone number. I remember it like it was yesterday being like holy fuck. That's a real number while any janney. She's the jenny from the song. Love it yes now. I'm gonna have that at stuck them. She was a good runner. Could you remix that with for so what who cares. So who care eight six seven five three so what who can't handle that was great. I loved it all the way better. I like theropod. i know little. She loves doing that though. Love it all right. Should we start our stories list to it. we're not. I don't even remember what who cares to come with one other thing. I thought that's not till the care. Do you not listen to our episode. And i was testing. You see if you knew your gonna trash So fast yes. Cure had to come up with questionable question guys all right so i'm going to start off. Great has is. His drunken stories and saturday was a day. I went to mosisidi my friend andrea. And i we love to go to a most the city and i went without her and it went bad and i think that's why my aunt wanted me to come help paint. I've been helping. My aunt jen every no. It's the same color she wanted to help. Her sons are on my television audience. Kulla they don't know what actually the romans. The color is called steamed milk. Subtly steamed exactly. So i've been helping general milk you. I'm gonna throw up. So i've been helping every saturday like her run paint her mom. She got new dressers. You know she just needs a little organization. Okay she got up here right to find a little missing kit in there anything nothing. She's good so. I was hanging out with jennifer joy the past few weeks and i just kept saying you know jennifer joy. Do any of these bring you joy you know so. We got rid of a bunch of clothes. I got some got some nice l. o. Being black dogs. I got gauchos. Spends the night those those. I don't know why she chose coming back and she liked the color of them and they were so comfortable. They're out there fucking week. I think i threw them in the bag. So you can't even see siege. Put them on. But anyway this saturday. She decided to paint my cousin jared's room and she had an issue with her dresser so they literally sent her new dresser because like the back was kind of broken so he's in a daycare so now wrenches room and jared's from needed to be done you know he's a twenty one year old kid living with his mom And gesture that she lives with three boys she has hurt him and then my other cousin and that his best friend lives in the house to which he comes into the story so he's working all day it's best friends at lowe's working all day shlomo. We love you work hard for his money at wash. Lemme so. I go to my aunt and i'm like you know what it's like. Ten o'clock she's like you better bring alcohol. You better bring drinks. Because the past few weeks i was drinking all my cousins high noon so i just kept going in the fridge and drinking. I would just say i can't organize without drinking. Sure i get there with my. I go there and my cousins jared's not there and my aunts painting and i brought champagne n i've brought a little little tiny thing about j. because i don't like a lot of oj in mosa just tonight blache. Yeah just a spritz. So i had my yeti which is like the tall mug one and i like basically poured the whole bottle of andre in there and i you not there was like a just like two inches left of alcohol and of course me with my oj. Tiny amount but had to remember like how much alcohol i had in their. My cousin shows up black bag. I know what's coming from sonoko. He had two bottles of champagne in his bag and a huge bottle of oj. And i said oh if we ain't cousins. I don't know what's what's good he didn't know. I d i was coming. I thought i soon as i saw the most is like. Oh so nice. He got mimosas for me. Because i'm painting his room. No he just bought them so then we had to go to target. By the time we got to target which is five minutes from our house. i had driven half of it. Okay By the time we got back to her house the that was gone and i finished off the bottle. So at this point in. Dr did not draw jared driving girl And he hadn't drank it as much as i was just like chugging. Just go into town on it. Because i live in a day having a day before the baby shower we may mees. Yeah and i don't know what happened and all. listen. I was fucked up. I was fucked up. Yeah it was like one o'clock did you poop your pants. No i did not who my pants. But i did throw up in her bathroom. Nobody knows everybody knows now. that's how fuck donald trump. i'm not gonna. I've never seen you throw up. No i know and l- listen. Do remember he just said. I went from target which is five minutes from our house. Drink that it's basically drink a whole bottle of champagne in like a half hour. I had not eaten till three forty eight. I didn't eat. Because we're after. I threw up late on our couch. Blanket was there. And i passed the fuck out. Woke up at three forty eight. Say oh god. I haven't eaten anything so i like. She has like fucking you were empty as can be. Oh my god. I had out stuff so eddie nap for a few hours. So i came up. Solid gets better. I came up eight. Some chips went back to the couch. Napped schlemmer was getting home at six. Okay so remember. I fell asleep originally at like i was done by one started drinking at eleven thirty so in an hour and a half talked about that. I never in my life. Have i ever done that like it was so funny. My aunt painted the whole fucking remind yourself. also i. we've been passed out. Seen you throw out. That's why. I'm like shock and i see you throw up all the time. So i'm literally laying on the couch now. My aunt had to leave at four because she she takes care of elderly patients and someone was. She need to go for a little bit. She's like to stay here like whatever i think. She assumed i'd be gone by by that. And i had someone. I had to hang out with that five. Actually the girls. That doesn't like turtles okay. I was supposed to hang out with her turtle hater. So see you so. I was listening with her. So gemma thought. Oh jen leaving up for. I'll let's perfect. I'll go home by that time. I'll be ready to hang out corey now. I was fucked up. So i fell asleep again on couch and i remember i. I remember like waking up and like briefly seeing schlemmer like sitting in her yellow chair. That's kind of diagonally to me at this point. It's kind of dark as a character to sean. I'd be like what day is it where you mean how scary so i remember him talking to a second. Pass back out six forty eight. I wake up and gems there at seven. And she was like wow. You slept that old time. I was like yeah. Yeah i don't know what happened. I didn't even know i was hungover. I'm always hung over forty eight. I was hung over. I have slept it off. But i didn't see they have the new update on the phone. Yeah and i was like oh. We're corey never texted me. This is like my excuse for you. Chorea already told her. I was gonna say on here so i was at one o'clock in the morning i'm looking at my phone. And i see the the circle up top and it was like something from corey and i clicked it and it was like two thirty in the afternoon. She text me like house. The cleaning going and off faulk it's one. Am and i was like. I literally got fucked up to apps and snapchat of me. And i don't know what time it wise but she's not driving she and was just like like dead inside phase and she's like fucking naps on couch and i was like two now abs binge drinks like that. I just wanted to go to most city. And i went. You went there waiting. He said he just always welcome. I don't know what made me. I think it's because i hadn't eaten and we'll saturday. If you didn't eat that i hadn't eaten and i didn't i in inbetween naps. And it was just kitchen. Salsa there's a difference when you daydream when unite drink. Even if it's not really it is but it's you know me with my most us. Yes she's a fucking handle muck and slot for them. I could handle my most normally everyone else asleep in and on the one a week but the best part was gen came home. I woke up. Everybody was gone. Yeah except for the one time. When i saw schlamm like staring at me in the corner from the light of his phone in on the yellow terre haute spooky. I know slim. Why are you sitting there slam. go somewhere else. Go to your fucking basement watching you sleep no. He was trying to talk. But i was like half asleep and then he woke up a lot like an hour later in stroke and the people. We have to listen to stop it. Oh my god we can do this with him. He loves us loves it. Yeah but my aunt was like little. Did you know that. Jared passed out on andrew's bed to tiered fell asleep at one point while i was sleeping. You sure there wasn't like a carbon monoxide leak anywhere like he's fighting feed my repeat my first cousin. Ooh Well so then you have your first cousins from mean girls almac stats sonar. Is i sorry. I'm allergic to bullshit. Apparently sees god bless she was so she was so proud to say that. Sorry guys. I'm allergic to bullshit. I don't even get drunk now. Chisholm pew. I just want to say the girl was pew tom. This usually here. Once a calendar year. I puke once a fucking week. It wasn't august twenty five. I think it's okay. I know she literally issues. All up our goulash the other night in the back behind the guard archie. Try to eat at the news. Lauch chops julie. Su know she hates goulash. That's why i said it gets me off fight. I don't like that. I'm not new york anymore. It's fucking american trump sweet. But that's how i felt. In that moment. I was like my stomach. I just got through up right now. And i'll feel better and i know you know i nap off way. We make fun of her. Because like every emotion ends in puke. If she's like stressed out she's going to puke about if she's at save me if she's overwhelmed like she's gonna puke about it literally. Sage she sad literally sage. You guys should do. Is somebody at work. Did you know like easy mac. And they forgot. Can't they forgot to put water in it and they microwaved it like whoever that was. If you're listening to my podcast because some people do at work. I'm sorry but what the fuck come on. It's challenging mac. It's burned the fucking thing. And so when i walk down the hallway gagging i fucking puke to my mouth. I swallowed it. I said okay. I got us. Gotta keep going to deal with it. But like who'd easy. Mac really hard. It's hard mack. Who screws up easy mac. I've stood up in before adding a brand new microwave. Because oh that's fucking blew the whole thing. Will you hate to see that. So i am judging you because i was like eight years old when that happened. Look it was last year. I got the point. I grew up from it. No plot. it wouldn't be. That's my proof because my parents were together mom and dad if you're listening Actually i wouldn't let her for you guys that i wrote dear mom and dad. I just wanted to get back together. I'm so sorry that did they divorce because you broke the microwave. I think so. Probably kelly's face when you go on your and fixes like the most entertaining. I it'd be a fly on the wall for this whole thing. Well she keeps going. So i know have to keep quiet for a minute. We wouldn't have if there weren't tantrum. No we don't give a fuck if you don't like our tangents like them but we do slow. We do cut him out because sometimes it's just like we will. We really went off and we lost ourselves for about forty minutes in the podcast is only supposed to be forty minutes. And we've been talking about one thing just like we are now so you want to read the first story. Chula hearing the stories. We have a lot of stories today that came from cures listeners. So she brought them with her. Have a few submissions. That's true okay. So do you wanna read one. Then you read one. And then i read one. I can't decide which one i like. Because i love both a lot. Okay okay i'm going to. I know what i'm gonna do. It was the summer of two thousand and seven. I got invited to a party on cape cod july weekend. With some friends from college it was like a three day ranger. And i was trying to mac it with this tall in handsome guy named paul. Oh paul let's call paul. We were partners on the pong table. Flirting up a storm. The seed was planted that we were going to fornicated some point over the week upon partners up the guy who was planted to. Yeah you can just you can just tell early on in the night like we're getting drunk or hanging out like i think that's what she's saying. Yes so well that night. I had too many jelly jello shots. And i was sitting on the couch talking appall. I didn't want him to know how drunk i was so i was trying to play it off like cool. Paul got up to go to the bathroom and all of a sudden. I got the spins. I knew i was going to throw up but there wasn't enough time for me to get to the bathroom. Johnny plus paul was in there. I didn't wanna puke. And i didn't wanna puke in the kitchen sink and make a scene in front of everybody absolutely no i decided to go incognito and pretend i was coughing into my hands when in reality i am blowing chunks orange. Jello shot came pouring out of my mouth this same consistency as the way it went down. I knew paul would be back from the bathroom any minute. So i quickly took my puke covered pause and stuck them between the couch cushions. That is terrible to my aunt. Somebody you can relate right. He came back and goes. What's that smell. No and i said. I don't know but it's nasty. Let's go back outside so did we didn't end up hooking up that night probably because i smelt like puke to this day. I still feel terrible for the person who's house. It was because they had to deal with finding my puke in their couch cushions terrifying next day. Oh i never told anyone this. Not even my friends. Because i didn't want it to get back to the kid who's house. It was when we went back to college in the fall. Oh yeah. I would've never told them i would've told my friends. I would have said if you tell them we're done. I'll kill you. God crouching tiger hidden puka love it. I love it all right so this one comes from little bit. Who sends in quite a few stores familiar with little bitch. Ch one friday night. In the summer we were having a girls night. I had just bought a new linen shirt red. That was so cute. And we ended up ripping tons of we'd pans and getting so high in going to club boo. Do you know what club is. Welcome to portsmouth. Because i'm going to q. You in right now do is pink. Bamboo club boo boo. We've got chinese food and score. Polls and we started chugging them we get really fucked up and decide to go too lazy. Jacks we had that one sober friend that wanted to go out while the rest of us were like. We're kind of too high kinda too drunk to go but we went anyways. There was this hidden garden next to the restaurant and we just went and sat in the garden for awhile looking like weirdos while people walked by then we went back to our friends house and kept ripping the pen. At that point. I started choking in threw up in my hands in front of all of my friends in my brand new shirt that read linen red linen shirt throw. Our puke wasn't read to matt It was pinkish tinted k. With rice egg rolls and the pink was from the score bulls. Oh yeah. so what's pinkish right. Would you say hey left. Her was a great chinese food leftovers. A better than when you get the night off so fucking need it again. That kid egg. i don't. i'm not good depth at this place the racist and good no. I wouldn't want to eat rice after i. I don't like rice anyways. Wants to eat anything to just said it was pork. Fried rice was pink all. She walked in her hands in front of inner hands in front of all her friends sitting in a circle. Oh class. I love the last night when she said it. She was like rice and egg rolls but she said like oh yeah. Pink grace and egg rolls. That's visual all right. You gotta story. Say log. And i i do. Okay all righty all right. So here's my story so first off. I cannot believe him finally bringing this story to light in the public. I e r-. Should i say love it. I was twenty one. It was two thousand ten better times and my now husband. And i were celebrating my uncle's twenty fifth wedding anniversary. The vodka cranberry flowing and we were having a great time. I ended up getting absolutely plastered. Her us so we went home before it got too late before i started whipping out. My solid dance moves. Oh honey i fail it in my soul bounce allow love it. We went to bed and things started getting skin which is always fun. Little pop act Again with the people offset peop- what happened after the late night home. Shenanigans is really where the story begins. I was so drunk. That when i got up out of bed after to go downstairs and clean up. I had not realized that stop. I had apparently dropped a little nugget right on the carpet floor. I can't stop then. My husband apparently got up and followed me and discovered the third in the dark room. Stop oh my god because he adds. And i'm not talking a quick little like oh. I stepped on a lego. And you correctly jump off of it. I'm talking full out. Most between the toes and stepped on a horned god barefooted bear if it just popped right out in the app probably was russian oven still to this day. Whenever i have a drink. He kindly reminds me that. I shouldn't get too crazy or poop on the floor. But hey we've been together twelve years now and will be married for eight years in october this year. Congratulations that's a solid quote unquote solid bond. Ha till do us part. My god i love. My god is not not the fucking is. Do i chase rice story because it has to do with shit on the floor. Basically one time. I went to chase rice concert blackout drunk. It was really bad. I it was the worst night of my life. I was house sitting. And i got back to the house and i was puking so badly i was wearing shorts and i should a solid shit in. It fell out of my shorts and onto the floor. Okay i have to clean my own shit up like it was dog. Shit i told this on your podcast. But i think that our podcast listeners deserve this too. I know they do or and it wasn't my house. It wasn't my house that i should on their floor. And i'm so sorry i'm not gonna say who it was but it fell out of my shorts puke so hard it fell out of my shorts and when the of the fact that you were house sitting is an important details that was like faulk. Oh my god. The dog doesn't even shit on the floor. But i i just dropped a can log a loaf. I'm like little the thaad. Oh my god sold to the floor and your heart probably sunk. You're like no. I was so drunk that night. I don't even know how i got drunk. But it was so bad. And it's just like all my bodily functions just came out of me. I've never been there. I don't think i've ever been that drunk in my life but there there's drunken escapade perfectly told rights shitting on the floor kick. Yeah we'll all right here you're up again my college roommate. Let's call her tonya. Tonya tonya harding. She was needs a caregiver. She was a notorious drunk bed appear. There's always one in every group right one night. We partook in some drunken debauchery at a magical place called the monkey bar. We love this spot. Even though we were only nineteen we could get into the bar. No problem just by presenting. Are you card. that's what we called our college ideas in at umass. I'm not sure if that was the protocol for everyone but it was for nineteen year old drunk girls in slutty forever. Twenty one dresses. My roommate was getting a little sloppy and embarrassing. So i her out of the bar and had our other roommate who is staying in that night. Pick up we helped junkie mc drunk girl out of the car brought her into the house input into bed in her club dress. We didn't have the strength to changer. But we took out her earings because we are fantastic friends. Yeah my roommate who came to pick us up. I weren't ready for bed yet. So we put on a movie and we ordered some cows zones college right you see them all actually with my roommates house zones. I think i lived on cousins. I didn't like chicken. Always my favorite titles on I'm lakes salivating on my mic. Thank god it has all of a sudden we see tanya so that the drunk girl that they put to sleep she has risen from the dead. She's wandering around the living room clearly sleepwalking. We're talking to her but she can't seem to hear us in her zombie like state. We say. Tania what are you doing. Do you need to go to the bathroom. She pulls up her dress now pulls down her thong and squats over. Our cat talkies litterbox. No she did not in the litterbox. Oh dom stop it. We yell and scream and beg for her not to do it but it's too late. She is streaming the most aggressive p stream pass straight into the litterbox at this point. We are howling. We are laughing so hard she even. Let's far out whole i second. We thought she might let a turf flight to litterbox. She pulls up her phone pulls down her dress and goes off to bed like nothing ever. We honestly sat up in laughed about that until the sun came up. Tanya is grateful that these were the days of flip phones and we didn't have this video because it definitely would have went viral barstool sports video right there abso fucking lutely. She had a good time cleaning. The biggest p clump in his out of the cats litterbox the next day. Oh and another time. She peed in the fridge on my deli meat and i had to throw it out. No she didn't. She's done it multiple times. That's an issue. That's an issue. That's honestly there's lot of females area killers but that's a fucking issue. Well can i tell you something fucked up about. I actually the story to have someone peeing so well. My ex boyfriend had an issue like that. I have that issue. He said no. No guys get up. I don't know how many guys i've i've seen get up when they've been drunk in piss It is a thing. No no no. This happened probably ten times in our relationship. He'd get so fucking drunk he'd sleepwalk like i remember my dorm room in college. He got up and he pissed like right. At the end of my bad he literally stood like where my desk in. My bed are right there. And he like pissed right there. And i was like god one time. He went missing like in the middle of the night and i woke up. I was like where the fuck is he. And he had gone into my roommate's bedroom that was open and he was bought naked and he had pissed on her floor and he was sleeping in her bed and she wasn't there because she was on her boyfriend and i was like oh my god but then like i lived with him for over like like a summer so this happened like constantly like he would piss in the same area like the right hand corner of his bed. Same like right. Hand corner of my bed headquarter. My roommate's bed. He had like a weird little like get up in the middle night and piss right their mortgage territory note. That's what guys do show. Many of my friends have done that. That's what i was trying to say one of my guy friends. I don't know how many times they said they've they've woken up and he's been peeing somewhere. It happens and then it happened in the last guy. I was dating. I'd had a lot. Clause clause probably a whole case to himself and we're in bed and he he gets up and he's like going towards the door like two bathrooms but we're his bathroom was like right before the door. His whole suitcase case was like shoes. Were all there and instead of going into the bathroom. He literally turned and so the doors right next to him. All he had to do was take one step over and literally the toilet was there like he was on just the opposite wall the toilet and i'm like i'm like drunk so i'm like laughing like yelling like i'm like oh my god like stop this you're gonna appear on your shoes. You're you're peeing on your shoes. And i literally had to get out of like the king size bed and i was like crawling through it and i had to move him into the bathroom and he was like. I don't even have to pay the weirdest pissed utter the p. Yes yes this is. I heard the p. hitting shoes when i flicked all the lights off when he went back to bed. I saw like two little things that i don't know where it went and i heard it. Did you did smell ep. The next day. Now what i clean cleans house with my ex's i would hear the p. Yeah here it. Hit the floor and like only one time out of ten times. He did it. I would actually find p. Yeah but i would hear it every time it's weird. I don't know if he let off something. I didn't see but let's absorb i was hit. I looked at it right after it happened. There's no way it could have absorbed anywhere fucking phenomenon now. We're discovering men men we want. You're crazy pistorius. Because i literally have. I know of a guy. Friend that literally. He pees like wherever they are. He's kind of a drunk. So genuinely shocked at the fact that you didn't find p. and i never found pe- usually where i did see. It just wasn't a puddle. Like i was expecting and the weird part is he when i told him to go in there. He said i don't have to pee but he had already pete. I was like. I know because you just pissed on your shoes. Let's say you know me. I'm like yeah. I know i just referred you in with this few piss on your shoes too late from the other side of the bed. You're a day late and literally not to ever tell anyone that we'll suck you fuck in many ways okay. Is it my turn. Yes over the years. Two thousand eight. Everyone's underage and we decided to take your classic. Forty hands to the next level with mad dog aka. md twenty twenty and we decided to artfully name. It dog pause. Oh that oh god this is going to get good tells me it doesn't end cute stop. It's darko dude. It's yeah that's six forty eight. Atari darko at jen's. That's what i woke up to. Nineteen thousand even crazier literally as i woke up on my saturday. Drunkenness sad seasonal affective disorder. Eight frat bros decided to infiltrate my girlfriend's dorm room in drink them. There no idea why we thought that was a good idea. It was a friend's first time drinking and he was outpacing me. Fuck that. I down the next too quickly and finish i. Maybe i blacked out before i was done. Insanity ensues one guy took the elevator. Four floors up in crawled out on his hands and knees. Grabbing girls by the ankles like creeper status. Another guy took off for no apparent reason and found himself in a dorm. He'd never seen no idea how to get out so of course he had to smash a window to leave. Oh my god now. All that happens from here on out has only been told to me. Oh we know that means you lacked out if it's been told you know it wasn't the great but that's the story we like but it was told in such a disgusting graphic detail that it's been seared into my brain as if i were there i my girlfriend's returned home. I realized that was a great time to go pee in the room. What the here. We go another guy now the guy oh here we go transitioning zip poll. Dick sow and the ps flowing on the floor with mostly sober girls in the room. This is when my girlfriend now my wife. I love that these are like like last week. We had the same thing. A few stories were bad but they turned out. Great i guess the the angel that she is sweet burberry angel realizes that the only thing to do at this moment is to grab my howard johnson and aim it into the trash. I honestly thought i was going to have to do that with. The guy was dating. Because i was like. This is the point where i don't know what the buffalo news almost asked. Who is howard johnson. I thought maybe it was the guy that ran for president a few years ago. Well there was a howard johnson hotels. But i think he's calling sean because you know like some people call it. A johnson is a really old school waiting for dick johnson. Hours later laying. On my back. I decide to puke copious amounts of bile in bum. Wine straight up onto my face and hair what that tastes like. Nearly drowning girlfriend again saves me by throwing me out of bed and onto the floor. Nice enough to hand me a tigger fleas. I went down from there. She proceeded to pry eyeballs open and ripped my puke ruin contacts out of my eyes in throw them in a probably used a little cup on the counter. All of this took place before midnight. Had struck lost the balls. Dropped god puke in the contacts. I don't even have context. It makes me feel weird open and fish them out dot. I couldn't tears. Gross me out instead of is so. I'm allergic to my own tears. So whenever i'm over at seven. Am rolls around. I wake up sticky stinky from puking on myself. That's good girlfriend. Kicked me to the fucking curb. And i stumble home to the frat to sleep another eight hours before starting the keystone light frat cycle all over again love edward puke hands. Oh franken contacts fat part. You better marry that bitch g. Yeah my favorite part is that she aided his weiner into trash cans. People ops johnny. Where we're to get not. What does it. The britain up written up from the ira coming in to check his leaking breaking piss. All over the fucking dorm okay. All right so here's my last story. Senior year in college. My girlfriend who up with my roommate. Oh chidi will chidi. That's not good. Cheer actual chidi mc cheater. Sens gag fawqa. They both hit it. Oh what a scale. Thank him what. It's skinks scum of the earth. I shouldn't just the girlfriends asking. they're both scan. Yeah don't you shame the woman right. It could be two women it could be. It could be. You'll be two women skanks you're right well they both hit it. But i'm a genius. And i found out so then they tried to turn it around on me on a spring break getaway that had been planned for a while. Long story short one night after a party with a lot of beers i was walking from one dorm to another came across her car and since i had already broken the seal decided it was a stellar idea to go to the bathroom right there and then all over her car. I vaguely remember writing my initials. Love mr angry bladder. Oh my gosh stories. So much so little time. Like i feel like that's what happened. So when you're gonna drunk something on the court i love when you admit stuff did you pee. This is a secret. Oh this is why. I see great. I'll tell us a very deep-sea grip. There was a girl. I was really good friends within highschool all and i had found out that my boyfriend was cheating on me with her skating. I found out through twitter. Twitter of all places twitter that they were talking about how they loved. Hang out with each other on twitter like in the public. And i'm sitting next to her in english class and i go. Have you been eating with a. Let's call in talk shirt and let's call her hall show 'cause that's the first letter of their names so she's like no i haven't what are you talking about and i was like. Oh i know you guys have and she was like what do you mean. And i was like your guys is tweets and she was like our tweets. She didn't realize that. Like i had a twitter. And i look now. I would see everything and i was like. Yeah and so. I like walked out of class. I've never walked out of a cost and never return like i called. My mom and i was so upset. I couldn't even see straight. It was awful. It feels like the end of the world when you're shows sat anyways. This was the time when i was a senior in high school. My brother who was my partner in crime was my you know he was a freshman. So i really look. Exposed him to the elements i. I'm working at soda. And you know the upstairs assads and soda. It's a hunting and fishing store. And i'm like how do i get back at this girl and some kind of like bouncing ideas off of people as it can get back to her. This is really bad. And so. I don't think she'll ever listen but if she does. I don't care. I saw the sky. It sides tells me you know you should skunk essence in the vents of her car like skunk essence that they usefully trapping and i was like no no not gonna do that to do low knocking to do that. Day goes by comeback son's next sago. I wanna do it because it got worse. It got worse. They were hanging out now a lot like in your face. I am i face and i finally was just like and i was that naive person. That didn't break up with him. I i couldn't do it and he wasn't doing it and it was just like unhealthy and so one day my brother and i are leaving for the day and it's pouring out and i made sure that we got out to senior parking as fast as we could and i jumped skunk essence in her bents. Oh my god you knew how to do it like you. Open up the hood and new to put it. No this is why we can't mess things. Oh so we just had a little incident. Okay i'd oughta snafu. I was huge. We just Spilled high everywhere Anyways carry you. Ask the question. Do i know how to find the vents in a car on the exterior part on now i did not lift up the hood or anything i it's like your windshield and events are right there. Oh okay little big. You know like port puerto rican there bbb i took a dropper and down just pouring and i was like it's gonna get down there right now and here's the thing as you guys know. I have a big mouth depending on the situation in the situation. Like if it's a really serious. Like i'm gonna keep it. Don't worry you have my word but if it's like stupid gossip i'm like oh my guess what happened swanson. While on like that or some everybody is all come on. We're human so anyways. Everybody loves a good like deep. But here's the thing is. I've never kept a secret like this and i only told my little brother and it was a secret bonded us. I didn't tell my mom. I didn't tell me. Why would i tell my mother in the first place. But i didn't tell my closest like best friends in high school. I didn't even tell them. Because i was like if this gets back to this girl that i poured skunk essence in her vents. I can't believe those because that should smell so bad. Like she probably was a dead animal in her. I know we thought she ran over a skunk and it was put fish or hubcaps. And i was like first of all. What's cap i don't know what i that's a good question. I know i have no idea what hubcap is no so you got your tire. Yeah and you know the thing that like the metal the metal thing. That's up gap. Oh i thought that was a ram they have the rim. You get the hubcap. It might be the fish on the latest on the middle. They always had to put dead fish. Underneath the car seats at the people used to say let's also put sugar. Gastric i was. I'm not gonna do anything that destroys her to the point where it's bad. I'm just going to do something that it's going to smell for a while. Like whatever. You wanna mildly inconvenient. Yes extremely this is what i did. My brother was my lookout for this so he was looking around like scoping it make sure nobody was coming. I made sure we got out of that school. It's fast we could get a book. It there oh. My god i love and so and then i was like we gotta dispose of the evidence. So what do we do. We drive to the steeple gate mall up in concord. You know swallow valley mall fucking abandoned. If you've never seen tim and eric's million dollar movie you gotta watch it. Swallow valley mall. You get what i'm saying. It's like fuck in juneau tumbleweeds it's sh- fucking drive. In a popcorn down there anyways never in my life i go when i dispose of it at the steeple gate mall like the little bottles skunk essence and i was like i made sure i never put my fingerprints on it. I always held like. You're too much for me. I love that you're doing. You know it was like this is a mission right now like you do not talk. Tell anybody and told anybody. I never told anybody who was our bond and here we go on the podcast To this girl if you're listening. I'm not sorry. Good i'm not limitations is like how many years was this. I know the statute of limitations for dumping goncalves. Somebody's van if she was listening to it was like that's what that smell my stink like a skunk a couple of months later anything. She got an accident honestly but it wasn't my fault or anything but i was like. Oh shit she is will probably watery byron. Thanks mike la longtime later before. Even i don't even remember. She hit a teacher. These like rear ended our any reason. You're listening is art a funeral a couple years ago and you know like i don't know how are you. How are you doing. Does your car still smells. I wanna know how your doing all right so i think this is our last story. Sure i was president of the graphic design club in college and we had our senior portfolio review and we wanted to take it to the next level so we hired an alumni to dj. Let's call him. Dj testy perfect. I was the one who was supposed to get the money for him. And i never did because i never wanted anything to do with him a dj. I wouldn't either high on offense offense. It's a different type. A dj like on the ones and twos. Yes not the same same. We get back to the house. And i'm blacked out. I remember being wild in fun. But i don't remember a thing. He was also friends with my ex boyfriend. So i wake up the next morning. And i am facing him. I opened my eyes and there is a huge hole in the wall. Which looks like it's from my head and torso legit head and shoulder. Mark massive smashed into the wall. Obviously we are probably having some fun in my bed. There was no way to cover this whole. My neighbor came over to fix it up and he made the whole even bigger till this day. Neither of us knew why the whole was there but it had been from my body. My god wild sack could have been. He put her in a half nelson little hacking anyways he lingered around the next day while we were partying. And i just wanted him to leave. He then says. I don't wanna make this awkward. Since i am friends with your ex. I wanted nothing to do with him and didn't even care after that. Graduation was a week away. Luckily i had enough pillows to cover the whole. Although at her graduation party we did have a grandfather blowing coke in my room pep yet pepper. Kokin holy doing keg stands to doing keg stan. Grabbing grandpa and grandma doing stand so another party they were having a massive party and like the street that she's on because i to school. There is a man that that was like a massive party street and some kid did a backflip off the back porch. Oh my god we're living in a millennial world and obviously kids recorded second-story second-story it. He landed define he landed and stuff landing and it landed up on barstool sports Real in her landlord saw my god. Yes so needless. To say i did not get our security deposit back one. Because he saw the video lubich. Can i have one more little drunk thing. My brother ended up on barstool. Oh my god. That's a good story. Please tell that. Yes i real quick. Take this episode is brought to embark by every bra. Pack theropod podcast hosted by kira lou. Who if you want to hear Guests and stories and things of that nature tune into thera- podic on thursdays theropods past days. All right so it was cheyenne's birthday party. This is my brothers now. Fiancee and baby mama about to have a baby like hopefully by the next couple of weeks married pop. I'm have a naff enough nap. Ever go get my cigarettes on the corner store and fucking campbell's no filters i always have gum county. Don't worry about she'll pick you up at after school. Don't worry like you know what i mean. matthey so anyways She so everybody's like really fucking drunk and you know he's younger than me. And i'm already twenty first birthday present that yes. We ended up the house because they bought a house together so they don't even have a house to myself yet at. That's fine but he's doing very well for himself. But this and my brother was a straight edge. Okay he was a big strap for sure for sure like high school. He didn't do anything like he had a sip. The wine half and flip of a wine cooler maybe one time. Okay so cal so fucked up. And he's to the point. Where like my mom and dad should've let him have to teach him how to drink because when he gets drunk he gets so fucking crazy so kira. I'll show you this video afterwards. But i'll describe it to now. He has like post and beams in this house. My brother being the fucking. Jim do she is he is like pull ups and doing stupid shit. And now he thinks it's a brilliant idea to jump on top of the the beams because it's like cathedral ceilings to jump on the beans mind you. This house is like eighteen. Hundreds fucking old. The beans are old. Okay don't worry about the beans though. Now he's jumping. It's about a six seven foot jump from one beam to the next muggy bar. Napping finds monkey literally like leapfrogging when the and everybody's like. Oh well now. I'm replaying after now. He goes to jump to next beam in. He thinks it's great. A great idea because i landing on his feet decides the next a little bit farther. I'm going to see if i get marking landed with my hands. Like a gymnast okay so fucking jumps and he his hands and he falls backwards on back home. It's like it's like nine ten foot drop a lot of back. Yup he he is like fucked up so it made it on barstool snapchat barstool after the girls like bitching about him. Yeah i wish in the thing is if she's listening you fucking dono architecture. By the way She goes. I just wish the post fell right from underneath him and i was like. That's my fucking brother and that is so mean to say as a fucking idiot but to say that you wish that the beam fell on top of him is fucked up and sports. It's all stupid game not a post so you don't have to wish like a bad injury on him. He's a fucking idiot but you do on the internet are so yeah so stupid as a i'll see next tuesday anyways. I was mad about that and i personally because it was my brother. Yeah but it was on barstool. And i didn't even know like it wasn't sent me. I just happened to look up. Yeah i remember. And i was like. Oh my god. That's my brother. The next day he comes to my mom's house and like my mom didn't know that any of this happened. Whatever and he's limping in like what's up cow. What's going on and he's like. I think i broke my fucking taco. Broke your break your fucking back like would that. That's where you walked away with. And he pulls off his shoe in the toys literally black one and in fucking. I can feel the pain radiating off it toward into my body getting transferred. How's that thing is fucked up broken anyways. Don't do that yeah. don't don't jump from. He was drunk. He probably wasn't really thinking an like they're both jim rats they were like doing. We're all so impressed. We're congratulations you have muscles you have upper body strength. I wish i had that. But i don't but yeah. My brother ended up on barstool. That's pretty cool. I always feeling likes to like be like just scrolling through and be like how did i know that guy. We're thinking i don't ever look at those snapchat things so for some odd reason. I just happened to come across. It and i was like. Oh my god. I was i my brother being a fucking idiot. Flesh post fell underneath them. It's like no it's a beam bitch but okay just some random on the internet nickel here. Yes all right. Yes i want to go ask for my questionable question. Yes do you wanna who wants to go i i. I'm sure okay. Whatever you want. mine's really simple. If you could be any animal benches what would you be. you think. that's simple that's hard to combine. Go ahead then go well so okay say jolly answer your question. Okay sounds good. The harake himself. I think i have said this for years. I would be a seagull. Here's my reasons. Here's my here's my argument. Got a fucking goal. Get to hang out at the beach all day or mcdonald's parking like at to eat everybody's leftover food. I'm a protected species. If you shoot me you get a big fine but lots people shoot seagulls. I'm sure on the ocean. I mean i do. I don't know who would. But i'm sure i know people that do i'm not talking about any particular to sell. You know i'm just assuming i've heard rumblings of people doing that but i could fly. I could hang on the ocean day. I could go see some wales if they come up to the top. I could live my life. As i was thinking some type of bird to but i m stir diving fly also like you get all the best food all the best beach acts. Yeah you're beautiful where you're going with that s right. I've been saying it for years. Obviously everybody thinks that's so fucking stupid. You eat your trash. You're literally trash chicken. And i'm like me then. I might as well be attract chicken. Because i'll be a siegel. Thank you all the good food. I don't know it's french fries in the parking lot. Yeah i don't pick a segel. Because i wanna be loved me hate. They people hate seagulls. That's why i'm saying that's what i'm saying. I wouldn't pick a wouldn't take siegel. I think i'm going to pick a dolphin. Oh we're going to go to hang 'cause everyone's so excited to see a dolphin no you don't have to be you know whatever But my reasoning is is that Dolphins are the only species than humans. Have sex for pleasure over china's also look acumen vagina. Yeah so. I definitely wanna like wanna have that like okay. I get where you're going with that and then And also like it's like you you get like all the best attention like people wanna take pictures with you and kiss you. And i just wanna be loved like that. Like dolphin rescued. It'd be cool to be a dolphin to to see like all the underwater creatures. Yeah spy on the spy. The underwater life. I would be so down for it at a cancun resort. That'd be a nice life. kelly for you go. I have a. I have a Advice for you on what animal to pick a high niece a what. Hi my niece. it's an animal. Made up. When i was a kid and my parents still make fun before it. Hyman minnie's had never heard of it so dr pinkus of it. What does it look like. This was like a version of the hyenas bowlegs looks kind of like that thing on scary monsters monsters with is like this crumb from. Are you kidding me out. That's pretty sure. I have a a real monsters t-shirt somewhere mouth. Yes they'll never get rid of that. Will they have donald thrown it. Who knows she gets rid of shit. So do you pick a high my knees. No i don't think a high my knees i honestly. I've been sitting here debating. Because i'm like would i pick a cat or dog. You know you've got the house you don't duero it now. I think i would pick a cat. Just because they kind of can do their own territory now yet. They nap all day. They just chill. They don't have to lay people and people know with cats. Okay leave them alone until unless they come to you like dogs it's like dachshund kind of get annoying. You know you gotta you gotta kinda see them on a certain schedule like my cat. I just give her the food thing she lays wherever the hell she wants she goes out gets all the my she wants she. She has her own little thing. She goes on walks with us. She falls us. she's just like lives her best line. Yes she literally and you don't have any boundaries with both. My i mean pippa doesn't really have a boundary. She just wants and everybody in the neighborhood loves her. What kind of cat would you want to be. Okay kind of fun to give scare little people. Do you want to be like one of those. Hairless ball sack. Like sage is obsessed with thinks. I'm obsessed with those or himalayan. I talked about them today for like five minutes in workers i was like. I don't think you i understand. Like i'm really serious about getting a hairless cat. I'm really serious by it's gonna happen and everybody's like god. What is wrong with us. Betcha like no. You have to put sunscreen on them and you have to take care of them really extra hard. And i just want one. That's what i would be doesn't ryan. Peapod have a scrotum and look like can't you just work with legit. Got scroll right your question okay. Okay oh i know it is deeper might cause a little bit issues. Oh gosh it okay. All right if you could pull freaky friday and switch bodies with anyone in the world but they have to be alive for just twenty four hours. Who would it be. And why are you picking crashing kaley new york anyway. I knew i was thinking kylie okay. That's so weird. Because i was kind of thinking kylie to just two balls out. I just wanna know i- cardi b. cardi bay. Fuck it cardi bay. She loves louis. Vitton and you know what i wouldn't be afraid to say whatever the fuck i want all day. Who would you be. I'm highly so. I be someone like with the penis because i want to know to take that. I like if you could. You wouldn't wanna know what it's like. Go to a strip club in my hand in jack off a jerk off itself. I'd play with it all i'd ever ron. Because who else is. I wanna play with and like i want to know what it would be like so famous like you go places and people are like. Oh my god. If i was a guy current zach or high school musical zach on the eighteen i want to be current zach s with beard and a little more a little more meat on his bones scaling. I really like him in the his netflix documentary down to earth. We all said kylie. I know we'll come on the most money. Everything she and she's got a boo. If i is a guy though i would pick ashton kutcher because i'm says meal kunas is oh fuck. Yeah honestly the books. The person i would identify the most a guy joan hill okay. Because i'm seth rogan. I was gonna say adam sandler that would be fun. And you say you're like one of the most loved actors in our time and very funny and new england are. I wouldn't want to be for manch. Vegas no all right all right good at it. So pick guys ready for question deep and meaningful reading. This is an observation. I've been making for thirty years of my life duty law thirty years. I have been witnessing this scheme in the town of greenland. We have a women's health clinic yes and at the women's health clinic they give abortions women's rights. Why are all the people outside protesting the women's health clinic all dirty old men. Old men like older them at twice this week. They're out they were out there this morning as hop. No i'm not gonna fucking honk they can. It's just crazy to me. I run you over. But here's also a thing. I have never once ever recognized a person standing out there in thirty years of living in this fucking town. I've never lived anywhere else. Besides the four years lived in state. But where do they come from. Where do they come from. So somebody told me something. They came from but they weren't sure so. I wanna know this specific place that where these they're not. They're not townies they're not. We worked a frigates soda. We know everybody in town everybody. I never to old men today in an older woman. i couldn't tell if she was protesting. It like no abortions or if she was for it they were their conversation but the two old men probably shouldn't even have a license. That's how old they were. They were like. I just just wanna say if you have a penis you've no fucking right. I mean we all can agree with this except there are some fucking psychopaths that women that think that this is. Okay actually doesn't matter. If you have a penis over jonah does not matter you have no right over what someone's daughter your body or what a man can do what they ought exactly and you know where they're coming from. I don't it's there's gotta be some sort of organization. But but i've never really thought about it until today when you watch my snapchat earlier you'll get it but i just they're just old men most of the time. What do old man like. What stake they have in the game like. They're not like up any girl at this point. That's going to be going to the clinic to get an abortion. If she needs you mainly write a daycare. What a woman does with her body. Exactly that's what. I don't get it. I live up his eighties. Why are you so overpopulated. Anyways come on a baby until it comes out of you. Sorry or until it's know there are laws with having an abortion anyways put in place. You can't do it before a certain time period. There's a reason why that's there so anybody can. That's okay too. But i just don't get it in all i've never recognized anybody and i think that's why it's not people coming from my town. People coming from other places that they know that every wednesday or tuesday there's abortions going in there. I have known people that have had one. Do you know what i mean. So it's like saying it's an emotional thing and it takes a lot of you'll end the least like the last thing that you want to deal with is with an old white man like protest driving in outside of something. That's already taking a lot out of you like usually that. That is your last resort. It's not like your leg ultimate routes that you've really thought through it's the thing you need to demand you're lamb out of there after you did in your that your life has changed and you're like what the fuck. Yeah you'll never be the same and then you have to deal with that. What i wanted to say is that when i was in high school the westboro baptist church came to my high school and i remember that at like abortion group that travels but the best documentary that i've ever watched is twelfth in delaware. And it's hbo but it's like it's two sides. It's the people who protest and it's the abortion himself really fucked up. it's really good. It's a documentary. it's insane i opening. I've watched it multiple times interesting. I've never heard of it. Everybody has the right to make their own choice. And i don't think these old fucking men that are pieces of shit really understand that like sometimes medical sometimes it is. I know my other question. How many people do think. Oh god by. Do you think any how anybody would. I don't think anybody would. Because honestly when i drive by today i really thought about it but since i've seen it so many times sometimes i just drive by at not even thinking it's there because it's just been a part of my life for so long but i thought it's i how many people honk. It's added unnecessary. Chaos in your quaint little town. So i don't think people honk you know. Yeah i don't know who would honk. I bet i could think of individuals in this town that would haunt. They'd have don't time that they would. That's what i'm saying. Yes anyways outside the clinic. We talked about this because if you're for women's rights pretty nervous about the future of women. No yeah i just figured there's women here's the topic on my head today. You didn't open my snapchat yet. I said i'm so glad questionable question where they come from. How many hawks do they get. I don't know i'm old. Pervy men are they rapists are they pedophile. I dunno decorate the babies toll. Fuck you totally believe women along. I can't think of anyone further from someone who is experiencing an actual like ben in a position where they might need to get an abortion. An old crusty man. Then you're leaving your. It's not like an easy right man money yet either. Yeah seriously pisses me off kind of all right. Well let's end on a happier note. Yeah god guys anyway. You're smacker head against that idea donald your brains around. I was like you didn't even realize she's all thrown off of their heads. React because i i. I'm spatially unaware of my body. Yeah very clumsy. 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The Kist & Solak Show #18: Eagles 23 Titans 26 Week 4 Reaction

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The Kist & Solak Show #18: Eagles 23 Titans 26 Week 4 Reaction

"Michael kissed Benjamin so lack. It's the kissed and Solex show presented by SP nation and bleeding green nation. You are lie at high on the kissed, and so lack show episode eighteen brought by the fine folks at SP nation breed nation. I am your host, Michael kiss. Follow me on Twitter at Michael kissed on fellow St. as always joined by the best dog on co host in the game Mr. eight year streak without a bad day. He is Benjamin Solex, follow him on Twitter at Benjamin. So like that's Esco l. a. k. Ben, I hate me some Corey, Graham, how you doing brother, man, I'm every day's day to be alive. I got love for Corey, Graham, do you? I don't know if you saw the clip because he just explicitly Santa lock them. He was like, that was an awful play, like I sucked like that was really bad. We'll crop, yeah. But like I know a lot of everyone in the building knew that it was a lot of players would not have been as Frank cauti- on themselves as he was in my opinion, and that's fine. And you can give him credit for that and you can call him a Frank Graham, if you want to. The point the fact of the matter is everybody who watched the play, knew that it was him fourth in fifteen, and it was the same thing that we saw in week one against the Atlanta, Falcons. Darby's got deep coverage. He's supposed to have in if I can say this in a way that the viewers will all of us rounder stand. He's in a purple zone in Madden. He supposed to cover fifteen to twenty yards on a frigate omega on a fourth and fifteen and to stand there with nobody else in his dog on zone, even in front of him behind him around what is he looking at? Why is he watching the quarterback like that? There's a guy threatening the deep sideline and he's motionless standing there looking like a frigging idiot, so good job perfectly Frank. Graham blowing this game because if he gets that coverage, chances are the eagles get out of here. And a lot of sloppy play gets forgiven, forgotten that we can move on from it. If he nuts coverage, Darnet had mariota dead, right, right. Which provide because then find out had to game clinching sagged in a row. I would have a whole nother we nonsense, but here's the thing and this is what it simply was like all eleven players on that field on fourth and fifteen, which obviously four fifteen with that little time left is like a huge advantage to the defense just from game scripts. Julia of the eleven players on that team on that defense, Corey Graham had literally the easiest job that he was to a single wide receiver set against trips. The halfback offset his side did not release, right? He shift Barnett and then he leaked into the flat, but he was not even pass Leonard scrimmage, yeah. So if that ball comes to him, he's got eighteen yards to go and everyone's planes on coverage. Everybody's looking down the barrel, so you nobody on the field had less responsibilities than Corey Graham. He had one job, like we say, like O'Hare on job. No. He actually had one singular duty and just a terrible mistake and like. There are so many. What if in this game, this was a game of tipping points on it being like with with the fact that like you had team just like exchanging field goals and you had red zone drives Peter out for both teams and you had deep balls dropped for both teams everywhere. Soulmate different things. Go broke in so many different ways like this game could very easily with like different fortune tip, different ways than like twenty eight to ten, Tennessee, twenty eight to ten Philadelphia or could a frigging twenty three, twenty three. And we would have just be belligerent because we would have ended its high. So like this is a good game. I think to parse process from results until eagles lost the game. Really. This box score could have gone a bunch of different ways. Let's talk on field performance. Let's talk a game planning. Let's in game adjustments in just discuss what's good, what's bad objectively. So obviously the eagles come out of here with a loss move to to into the Tennessee titans, moved to three in one twenty six, twenty three in over. Time is your final score. Corey, Graham frustrates me a lot. They're easy plays and I'm sorry, I'm harping on this frigging angry, dude. We lose McLeod for the season. We were bummed about it when new rebuffed about it and people asked us, well, what? What's so bad about Corey Graham? Have you watched Corey, Graham and all? Have you seen what plays does? He meant he doesn't make the easy place tonight. The heart play for loss on the screen. Test screed is the best play. He's made in three years. Look, they're a hard plays like being avant Maddox lined up in the slot. One on one with a with a dog on good wide receiver, like Corey Davis and given up a touchdown, I can forgive that considering the circumstances and the difficulty of that coverage. That's I don't begrudge him for it. Maddox had a good game and we're gonna talk about him and maybe possibly replacing cordray is having a game Maddux mates medics at the interception Madison. The interception that was generated by pressure in my opinion. So Matt, how many snaps basing by? Okay. So maybe not a good game, but how many snaps are you basing that out? Because he didn't have that much playing time? No. So my, here's on saying like. Whether it one that x. had a good game, like, I don't know, like I was asking you, what info do you have? I think we're like had like good things and bad things objectively. My bad would go starting a rookie corner who played outside corner in college who you've been training to be a slot corner, have him play free safety like obviously, the pick Dow's doesn't that show the desperation, which held bad Corey Graham is trying to explain to people for so frigging long. Here's what's so frustrating as you if you, you know, I think if you're a national writer writing power rankings, right? You're like, Aw, man, eagles. You know, Super Bowl is a little bit of a slump like executions, not great, barely got by the colts team drop onto the titans. You know, falcons was down on the last play like Philly really hasn't come out had the dominant performance you'd be right. But the fact of the matter is that this team a week one not healthy week to net healthy week. Three Carson coming back health is even worse. Like as bag, there's. No sproles. There's no this. No, that what we were finally, at the point, we're really Carson alshon back that's to impact players healthy, no sproles, no Clement, there's still Sonal Wallace. There's still no Holland's like the office of talent is still the pleaded, but Carson out Sean. That's great. And then eagles lose McLeod. We can't even appreciate the fact that the office play well, carsl go out on the good, right, because now you've got other injuries the you're trying to deal with man. Phillies really been hit with first quarter of the season is done. Phillies really just been hit with the med fan, Yana made. It's been Red Cross all over the place. But overall, I am very surprised that the best solution was taking. I have no idea if Maddox has any sort of experience playing a deep middle role does at all, but simply like of the unit have great options like activating trae Sullivan, putting John Hall in receive dog on the. Outside in like putting Jalen mills in the middle, right or something people wanted to the fact that Maddox in the centers, one of the sub packages was like your solution to me is very surprising. I wonder what about Matic's made them think like he'd be a good deep Guira robber or anything they were deploying him as I don't know. Obviously, I'm not gonna argue with you. Coy Graham had no idea where he was going. He was in the middle of the field like all those deep middle balls, the caught was the knockout. Once you could see Corey, Graham like ten yards below racing up, try to catch up because he had been on something underneath, but but still the found that Maddox deployment just shocking inexplicable in all the stuff with Corey shooting up in you don't you don't see him all the corners getting beat deepen. Yeah, they deserve criticism to Jalen mills, had a bad game after a bounceback game fully will will admit that Ronald Darby definitely didn't have his best game. Sidney Jones had an up and down game assault thought overall that he played. All right. Malcolm Jenkins played. Absolutely fantastic. I thought and made two big plays before that fourth down to get them in that situation before they had the Alseid on job, Josh Klein offense. Fuss is knocking the fourth and fifteen. He was all over Joni Smith onto those place. So I thought he played really well, but overall this defense to pass rush. Finally, I think there's a game that we can point to that. I believe that we'll say, once we look at things again, wasn't exactly bumping. And I know Fletcher Cox took a knock during the game and wasn't as affective act of the facts so that something that's may be worth monitoring. But you can tell how bad this secondary Ken look when you lose McLeod, and then you also don't pair it with a pass, rush debts, getting there around forty percent of the time, which is what the eagles have done this entire season. They've led the league impressions leading to this point. Not that early in this game. Dare Mario to throw the deep out to throw the deep quarter. Just like I said, the other day and early on. On Mario to hit it. So you knew we had ballgame on new type offense for the titans, and they went kinda pass heavy in the early in the early portions of the game, and Corey gave us was the big benefactor of that his his big breakout game that the titans needed to see from him. Nine receptions one hundred sixty one yards and touchdown Taylor comes in and replaces restored Matthews out his snaps and doesn't even miss a beat, seven catches seventy seven yards. They used Dion Lewis out of the backfield on early downs, which is what I wanted to see from them what maybe two weeks down the line. But they did it today. It was affected. Nine catches sixty six yards. I felt like the titans game plan was on point. The eagles was a little lacking. The execution overall was bad. Is there anything else on the defense that may be the may be missing? When I lab on something that I said them a couple of things. Number one, the eagles have been in a situation where opponent has a potentially game tired game winning drive very frequently and very often the. Defensive line is the one that kinda pulls them out of that muck and didn't happen this week. You know, couple of drives were holding Tennessee would have changed, you know, really put Philidelphia more the driver's seat that really come to play. I don't know what happened to Fletcher caught on that little injure series. We went out for a couple of plays. He did have a brace on his right arm when he was playing by the end of the game, but he kinda vanished for me which number one like we'll beat up. Yeah, you know, number one, if you beat up your beat up around a hundred percent, I'm not criticizing, but he'd advantage low bit. In the number two, you're probably devoting the majority of your offensive lines resources to stopping him. You saw pressure from Bennett early. You saw Barnett had a great sack, very quality play by the way. Let's talk about that real quick Bornet with the inside move that he, I don't think I've ever seen him hit insights when like that when the tackle open the door for him hit that very encouraging sign. One of the things that we wanted to see from him credit to bar net very good Bengo. No, yes, absolutely. I grew with you Burnett being able to hit that inside move is very important. And one of the one of the big key points of bar net take is that I'm not sure after a year change NFL play. He really has the explosiveness n n n speed and cornering ability to be consistent outside, rush guy. And if you're going to win with inside moves, you need to be able typically to threaten that outside track all the time. Now there are successful rushers who really still scare off its tackles around the edge in. They're still be able to generate those inside restaurants, even though they're not great corners, ran Graham is one of them, and that's one of the things about brand. Graham was kind of a late come on guy, and he doesn't have a typical frame in took them a bit, you know. So there's a path there, but Bornet hitting inside moves really, really good. The better he gets at at threatening the outside corner, the more quickly he opens up his inside a lane, so kinda got the two of the one two punch. And if he can. Bring the one, he'll be complete, but I've always been worried about is the one, but saw a great thing to see. I, I didn't really get that. You know, who's the big time player right now for Philadelphia, the guy in the front four who gets that keep pressure, you would say it was caught, but he was beat up. Okay. Then you want to Brandon Graham, I'm not sure he's one hundred percent. He still looked great alerts better. It's been Chris long. It's been Chris long, Michael Bennett too. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So no, but like long embedded in that they're typically situational. You know what I mean? They're rotated in. I don't know. Like I'm very interested to go back and see like when it came to those fourth downs late in the game, who were the pass rushers that Schwartz put in and where he put him in. You know what I mean? Like who is really relying on their out of those reps go. Also, I feel that way. I also think that jail is probably the worst star on the defense if you're not calling destiny via starter, right? We gotta talk about that because you can really feel about Jalen mills. However you want. But when this defense is fully healthy, I'm talking about if MacLeod route on the field. It's very, very difficult to make a case for him being better high higher quality player than anybody else in that defense. Even if you're a big mills fan, you know what I mean? Maybe you're coming out. Hello de NADA. But if we're talking about starting in nickel, is he right now better player than Sidney Jones? I don't think so. Right. And and and then not, you know, veteran, he's kinda like is what he is. Maybe not as sexy as exciting or, you know, like pump up as a player, but he's a quality player which is important to note simply for this reality when and this is very clearly evidenced in Tennessee game in my opinion, when you are facing the eagles one of the first questions you're going to ask yourself as offense coordinator is how do we attack Jalen mills when he was on the field that is going to be the conversation that's had on Monday morning on Tuesday morning in the meeting rooms for the coaching staff of eagles opponents right now. When you're listening, Mike Zimmer and John d. frigging Filipo here last year. Great coordinator are going. All right. How can we get mills? Because he's viewed as the weak point, very clear. Coordinate us was allied against him constantly, especially in in quality situations where they were looking for big plays and Davis's guy was kind of looking for his breakout game, has it been able to get it has been disappointing despite high volume, and then he wakes up something against a mouse. What's that telling you about Jalen bills stance among other NFL corners. It is not been a good start the season for mills he, this is really, I think this, this construction of mills as the liability in the secondary and as a liability on the defense is very important because it kind of takes away from the discussion like, oh, really? How good is Jalen mills? Well, even if you're like think he's good, you don't think he's better than Darby or Jenkins or McLeod when he's in and maybe you do Sidney Jones, but I would disagree with you. Mills is clearly targeted as weak point, and that's, that's, that's reality. So as we move along this season, we're going to be looking for answers, obviously at safety since you know that that moves they made with Maddox and core Graham awful. Now you look at that outside corner, position, Russell Douglas. Were probably have first crack at that. Also, if you're looking at safety and you wanted to trade for Earl Thomas for maybe a second round pick that's not happening anymore because he now has broken a clean, lower leg break in on the way out. He flicked off the sidelines for the Seattle Seahawks. I showing his displeasure at not getting a trade or a new contract, good for him. I mean that they should have paid him or there should have traded on this not played so hard headed with them. That's why tarp Thomas wanted to get paid for that exact scenario. And that happens. So we can't, or we're not going to trade for him right now. So Earl, Thomas out of the picture, we flip it to the offensive side of the ball before we get to win. I know a lot of people were frustrated with the call at the end of the first half. Third in three with eleven seconds to go one time out, they run up the middle with jive for one yard. I, I dunno, men, twenty. One to three to me feels a whole hell of a lot better than seventeen to three, which is the lead that they blew, and they didn't even give it a shot. But apparently what Doug Peterson wanted to do was have a run that went for maybe three seconds or four seconds. Whatever the case is call. A timeout then have seven or eight seconds at the end there to take one shot at the end zone, obviously didn't work out that way. But my thinking is might not just take the shot right there and you give yourself more options you you. Can you have more field to throw to if you had that time out in your back pocket as far as and then you're not worried about taking a sack because you still have the time out bendy remember that call which will rethought on it? Yes, thirty three eleven seconds left. Yeah, I was. I think Peterson caught a little bit more flack than he deserved in the immediate reaction from beads and from social media of the game. But that was surprising. One, I think it might you saw the Penn State Ohio State game on Saturday night. James Franklin calls for five minutes. You know, they audible into it from the sideline. They had really a really nice whole veal alignment. You know before the snap, my big thing. With assuming runs are going to gain yardage, which you assume everybody's gonna gain yardage, right? But here's the thing with Ron, assuming runs gonna, change yardage. If the defense shifts from the advantageous look pre snap to a worse look at or after the snap, which they did. You can't really change anything with a run, right? You don't get to make decisions fast forward to the end of the fourth quarter Mahamane even been overtime, the throat Jordan Mathews in the back of the end zone on third three, which Carson sale way out of bounds writer at situation. Doug chose to run the to throw the ball in very similar down in distance position on the field. Third in three knocking on the door inside fifteen. Even though the throw is a low percentage throw to a low percentage receiving those bad throw. I really liked the play called there because it was designed as a play to go like four yards down the field. It was like mesh in curls ton of crossers traffic in the middle and Indianapolis. Are fused me not Indianapolis, Tennessee handled it very nicely, and they had everybody blanket up and Carson had to go through his progressions. That's the thing with the pass. It's designed to go somewhere, but when things get wonky after the snap, what's very easy to change your mind cause a quarterbacks holding onto the football, and he's allowed to put it wherever he fricken walls right this this when you run the football, the office of line is blocking for one spot for one concept. The halfback is reading for one spot for one concept, and if like state to players twist and stunt or on the Tennessee play, they win whatever matchup was necessary for them to close that hole that Peterson and the offense of design envisioned. You can't adjust. And so I like keeping the ball in my playmakers hands in that regard on situation. So I get it on paper chalkboard, but things rarely go as you -ticipant them to on the chart board. I thought that was the most questionable decision for Peterson that and I really didn't like the choice. To lead the titans. Run the clock down before the two minute warning on second down. Now, the titans ended up throwing a quick little Lookie screen to Corey Davis that went for about five yards. It was Ronald Darby only tackled the game, pretty sure when you let them bring a running clock down to five, they have the freedom to pass the football, two, three, really. They can throw it because class stop anyway. So I think a smart move on Braves part would have been throw the football pass. The sticks at that moment because there was no harm. No foul clock was gonna stop anyway. So I found those decisions to be the the biggest issues. I don't know about you. Mike, the decision to punt with three minutes left. I did not mind at all already. You're at your forty. Two, I believe is about four th in four. If you pick that up, you've got over three minutes left all three of your time outs and twenty yards to go to kick the field goal Tennessee's. Probably in that bowl back, it's very difficult. They have all three of their timeouts. It's very difficult to get down field, make them eat up their timeouts and score touchdown, a big ask you go for, you don't get it. Tennessee, either is kicking a field goal to make this a six point game, or they're probably pending you at twenty five or worse with the punt you're saying to a defense who was killing the titans against the run, Mike, killing him. Do y'all? Louis four carries zero yards. Derrick Henry eight carries twenty four yards Marcus mariota the leading rusher Ken carries for forty six yards to have the set yet. He he'd yet to have at this point of the game, the seventeen yard scramble ram like third nineteen that added to that. So they killing against the run zoo. Cupet will get it back probably in front of twenty five, which ended up getting it at the forty shout down harder. I me. I thought that was a fine decision. It was one that I saw heavily criticized. Yeah, I thought I thought it was perfectly fine to in. One thing that I wanna do is reach out to edge analytics. Company that eagles have hired to guide their decision making on that and see if there wasn't a game winning chance leaked out on that because I'm gonna trust their word over my judgment. And even though I thought it was the correct call will see what gentle has to say about it. We'll go to a neutral party to see who's who's right about this. If there was any difference whatsoever in the game, winning chance Ben with the offense, four sacks defensive coordinator for the for the Tennessee titans, dean pees, who we talked about being aggressive. He was dialed in. We didn't make them pay when they blitz. He was bringing corner. He was pointing Corazon blitzes stunts twist. Linebacker blitz ac- was doing all types of stuff in the eagles offensive line was not prepared in the running backs, especially especially window. Small will criticize him here exceeded good day on the ground. Terrible day in pass, bro. And you know, overall Carson Wentz goes thirty three for fifty three forty eight touchdowns thought he played well thought he looked better that he did in the game last week against the Indianapolis Colts. You look at the receivers that we got back l. Sean, Jeffrey, obviously, making an impact on the outside. For the Philadelphia Eagles getting that stack and get one over the in. The bucket from from Carson Wentz were we haven't gotten that type plan. Any other receiver that. Who. Of course, the red zone touchdown, man. So eight catches one of five for touchdown for l. Sean, Jeffrey thought he played fantastic. Zachary was dominating the middle of the field, especially after wisdom would yard and Kenny Vaccaro for the titans went out with injuries. He was just dominating the middle of the field. Ten catches one hundred twelve yards. Nelson had a bad day so we can talk about either the offense of line not being prepared for the blitz or not being able to communicate at not being able to pick it up along with the lack of help from the running backs. We can talk about Nelson Adler struggling. We can talk about the penalties. We can talk about the fumbles. It was Loppy play from the offense at the end of the day that that halted some of their drives and led to them only being one for four in the red zone and ultimately not to affective. I still thought overall good day for the offense. Would you think then really great day for the offense until they got the ball in the fifteen yard line. Obviously, that's gonna cutting on. I mean, like, you know, eagles kicked three field goals with Jake Elliott on the roster and none of them are longer than forty, right? Like, that's, you know, that is now. Now what you would expect eagles kicked field goals of twenty seven thirty and thirty seven yards. Mike slows drives that ended at the ten, the thirteen and the twenty kicker is to those drives were end of half drives, right? So you're limited amount of time that you have, but both of them, it was the yonder Carter Dr starting to Tennessee thirty nine and then it was the turnover. The volunteer Matic interceptions I believe started at thirty three, maybe twenty seven or something like that. So two very short field both at the end of the game, both with huge momentum. Appoint swing opportunities and you had chip shot field goals out of those. The fact that the eagles struggled on the short feels Mike leads me to a take a, have a take. Are you prepared? Here we go, oh, we have a take. We have a take sound effect. I don't think we have to take effect pedal, have to put it in post, go pens, gonna take for the foreseeable future, not necessarily for the whole year for the foreseeable Congo's offense already putting conditions on it, Maury, like heading the bet. Eagles base. Offense should be hurry up. Oh, for sure. Teams should know the eagles will becoming out hurry up on. It shouldn't be used as like a all. We got a big play as long catch by alshon Jeffery. Let's get a move in. Then h should be every drive. We -ticipant the eagles to come out as a hurry up offense here my take, here's here's my might have number one, go ahead. I was shocked to hear. Daryl Johnston, say on the broadcast Peterson had told him directly like we don't wanna be thirteen personnel team, which is weird to me because Doug doesn't seem to me to be guys like I need to be in these personnels. Yes, let Doug is like I wanna be whatever's most effective. Thirteen personnel was affected sano fees, speeding Johnston, something on. I mean, he's just kind of talking nonsense, but the eagles have on their roster, especially when it's healthy. Some real matchup issues and match of issues are great to run the huddle with douse Qatar, Darren sproles being the two guys who merely pop to mind Zakar. It's being another one. Those guys are problems in. So you get. Them on the field and you put a defense in hurry up. You're at a point where this is something that I broke down. It's written on bleeding relation, talking about Dallas gutter making offense. Easy is the name of the post with gutter on the field, especially in hurry up. You can get seven good blockers in the box, generating eight running gaps, and then you can go empty and back-back plays because you get a gyrus pros or small, went out there, whatever you will. Excuse me, whenever you want to do your the point where you can be very, very multiple. So that leaves self to hurry up. No HANA, that's number one. Number two. I'm not yet comfortable saying that Carson Wentz is like fully in his group gone. I mean, like I thought there were plays today that he could have extended with his legs where it said he kinda just force the ball. You know, like when he was like vibe, you know, after we put the hurt on the bears, but the her on the Broncos when Carson was filling himself in the middle of last season, he sees Zakar. It's a little bit covered on that last play that last third and twelve and he goes, looks like scrambling people. Here we go like about the cr-. Something that he's not, you know, that makes sense. He hadn't played a long time. He's back, you'd beat up. So I don't think Carson's necessarily in his in his rhythm. He's not necessarily harmonic yet in tune with the universe. Hurry up kinda takes a lot of thinking out of for for for a quarterback in lets him just be a little more instinctive. Let's just kinda do his own thing a little bit more, which I think would be very beneficial for Carson at this time and number three, hurry up offense allows you to run more effectively. Some package plays and some RPO's. It was in the eagles used in the playoffs when they had foles than they were limited on offense in that regard. It's just it's a this, this offense. Little boost Mike league. I saw the stat today eagles scored twenty five plus points twelve times last season. They've yet to break that twenty five point barrier this season, this twelve games left of the season. Mike, this offense hasn't necessarily been as explosive. Obviously, we know been injury concerns, but hurry up just gives you juice. Right? It gets defense on their heels. It just adds a little bit more dangerous offense as we know. So I think the eagles should really consider, you know, hurry up Nautile and use that as a functional part of their offense. If maybe just like as a as a quick patch for the next couple of weeks, you're trying to get some of your running backs back to health. You're trying to shore up some things on the offensive line. Look for a tempo style of offense, ball out. Quick solves the pressure issues to Mike. So I really think that they should investigate. So going through your points one through three here and I agree with you, I really, really agree with you that they should be not solely a an uptempo hurry up team, but a lot of times they should definitely shift in and out of it at the very least unused key points in the game in open up with it. Remember the colts game the whole. I drive twelve twelve play seventy nine yards all hurry up personnel, right? No, I understand not Doug saying he doesn't wanna be a thirteen personnel team. You're getting l. Sean, Jeffrey back. You don't have to necessarily be that that's an obvious upgrade on the outside or Josh Perkins Kamar. Can Shelton Gibson guys like that. That's fine. Be twelve team because like you said, that personnel, Dallas who was an excellent blocker for for the eagles last week, and I think put played pretty well in that respect today. When I saw him I, I wasn't paying too much attention, but he can definitely do it. So you can line them up in a win, and then you can spread them out and you put the defense in a situation where they need to react to that hurry up there that that second point of them getting in a rhythm and tempo in Yemen. Carson Wentz said that when they talked about bringing back in the colts game, he said that, you know, I suggested it. I feel comfortable with it. It makes the defense look more vanilla when you go to that hurry up style, especially when you have a match of advantage of puts them in a in a bind, like did against the coal Serna tried it more in that game, but penalties really took some of the tempo out of there so they, they have to be more clean in that respect they wanted. I want. That's that's a big part of it because that will slow you down number three, the package place. Fantastic. Point back when the New England pay. Traits were running their, you know, their their green light offense right that they'd actually consulted with chip Kelly. I'm not saying rent chip Kelly offense. I'm saying this part of it is says, run Jim, Kelly off it. Here we go. Here we go, but no, but one of the things that the New England Patriots did was they had six plays and they would come to the line and they would have a one word call for six plays as they came to each game. You can do that with the eagles and you can make lifer easy for Carson Wentz and make those decisions easy in half those packages and have those mismatches hab, oh, six place in those situations. And you can be really productive out of those, especially with the way that this team, this coaching staff is able to game plan against other defenses than I think you may see more of that as we get more tape on these defenses to be able to dissect what they wanna be an encounter punch with that. So I one hundred percent agree the personnel. We have to do it. The advantages for Carson Wentz definitely there and the things you can do with package plays. I think our an advantage this offense, especially considering how good this coaching. Staff is scheming against other teams to take advantage of certain things in certain situations. So I agree with all of those three points with that said, Ben, any other players or situations or anything else on the offense that you wanna dig into before we mercilessly and this dog on losing a hate, hate podcasts, effort, loss, man. I hate it, especially with a close loss like that. Like I haven't felt this way about a loss in a very long time. I think the last time I was this frustrated with a loss was honestly week two against the chiefs last year, and I was probably frustrated for the wrong reasons because then we can kind of get into this. I was frustrated because I thought we abandon the run a little bit, but you look at the situation that they were in in week two, and I think we over blue that a little bit. And I think the same thing is happening right now with this team because we went sixty six percent pass, but the pass was affected is six point nine yards per pass it that that that we were getting and Jay Ajayi beat up and we don't have sproles in the backfield. I think it's fine. I mean. Can you criticize a certain play call over another? Because we were dominating the middle of the field with arts Nelson had some drops. If he doesn't have those drops off the passing, offense looks even better l. Sean was like, what specific play calls are people going to point to? If you say, okay, we'll state your case wind, should we have run instead of passing this situation? Why would that result have been better? Like that's that's where I'm coming from now, and I think that we don't nearly here the run pass. Split complaint. If that drive in overtime is especially seventy Gye nine of the giant seven years was followed fifteen with a giant great Dr. Native ripped him up, eagles. Rushing attack blocked well, the entire game. It was the best part of their offense. Line played yet even better. I'm gonna get to that. They've even better at the end of the game kind of wore down that front Tennessee you when you when you're a stunting twisting front, Mike, you're running around a lot kind of that front down, but. This past offense and rightfully so the average offense apply passing just gives you a better chance of winning the running. You wanna understand what's happening situationally, but I think it's silly to say that Carson was struggling or the passing game in general was struggling. Think Agla had a rough day, but overall passing game was doing quite well, my opinion and always important to remember if you go look at the Carson eaten at, you know the the chart where he threw his Bass's eagles through a healthy amount of pass behind Linux. Scrimmage. Those are basically understood to be runs on. I mean, it's a player getting a ball with a runway with few blockers in front of him. That's that's. That's what a run is. It's basically guaranteed Gump completion, which is the same thing as a owned off in my book. Yup. Yes, they off it's of line. Mike. The eagles struggled a bit to handle pressure from the colts front four. And then they had, I think further struggles one could say against the Tennessee front. On a scale of one to ten one is lowest ten at the most. How concerned are you with eagles off line pass, protecting too. I don't know what's three like it doesn't yak anything that can't be fixed at all. You know what I mean? Stunting defensive lines yet home like just period like we know why is everybody do it because it takes a while you need to be able to cover the back end you need. You know, we talked about those dome blitz and those guys dropping when you don't know who's dropping wear. You've gotta sit in dissect for a little bit and those twists in those stunts you on. I mean, it's base it as office of line. You're educated guessing game like, all right, we know on tape when they, but this guy here in this guy there on this Dallas, usually it's this, but they can also countered with that. So we're probably going to do it this way. We're gonna slide it this way, but if it's gonna go the other way, it's gonna go the other way. Nothing. He's great. He's a great job of of varying up his attacks. It's hard to get a beat on. Yeah, so that's going to get home. I wanna I wanna you know, kind of put it this way. There were many, many plays both sacks and completions were Carson had like two point five, which is a number we talk about Anamour seconds to throw. Yup, never plays where you saw the office of line beautifully seal off in switch and handle these stunts and it was great. 'cause we have the ball down the field eagles had a couple of explosive passes very nice to see both data. The eagles have not yet faced a team that I think has gotten close to the two point five time to throw number because the eagles style of pressure is less. We may not get home on every play, but when we get home, we get home so fast that we're forcing you as an offense to really very, very quick any football out, different schema, z- different understandings of what pressure does. And what about pressure is valuable. The titans had a few sacks. Mike eagles had a pick in enemy territory. I don't know how to how to handle the the expected value. You know the the EPA points added. From those plays. But the eagles style of pressure is what generated that interception the skull style pressure generated some Saks right in as you kind of sauce out how you feel about that there. I will say something we have not yet touched on, which I think we just should for narrative purposes. Michael alshon Jeffery caught eight of nine targets. Eighty nine percent cafe, Mike four, one hundred five yards and a touchdown, Mike half of his plays. I believe, went for fourteen yards or more. I think it was. I can't remember the quote me on that. He looked grow white good. They throat him, threw him a bubble, scrape. Throwed him. I corrected it. I corrected it. You can't, and I, I don't get. I've excited, they threw him. They wrote him a bubble screen and he got yards after catch. It was when my article without Sean Jeffrey, the lowest grade that he had was two out of seven for yards after catch. He hasn't been good at that in his career at all. It was that a fourteen year deception yet auto screen salt, like that do was hit on a levels. It's a three level threat always has been going to give you production outside going to give you a mismatch against Cornerbacks, be able to moss them. Essentially, dude has crazy strong hands, great at contested catches. And that catch rate today was just bonkers. So you can put aside that dude, he's had five different quarterbacks in the last two years. Five different quarterbacks last two years. You're gonna tell me about chemistry problems. That is not the issue. You know, it takes time on the same page and he looked on the same page. Carson today I'd kill wait to see Jeffrey continued to evolve this chemistry with Carson Wentz 'cause it was bumping today that touchdown was kinda. Get out of your seat soda touchdown, there aren't about you all his height. Mike is like, if you like, give all the different varieties of leg receiving touchdown, like, oh, a bubble screen that goes for big yak, like a speed, demon, just burns a safety over the top or a contested catch in the end zone yet. Give me give me the one where a grown man looks like a little girl at the end for entertainment value. Favorite one man. Touchdown was big boy playing a big boy way. That was a lot of fun to watch. Obviously, he had to take some reps off because he's got virus or whatever, you know. So he made a big play. And then when the sideline doused himself engage for aid because he clearly sick smell, showing Jeffrey flu game talking about being an impact player right when you come back after an injury like that. I mean, it's crazy to me. We are a year Enchaine removed from Allah Sean being an injury prone, and then also like bit of a locker room character concern guys, like, and now not only does seem like he's having. A great time and he like has awesome chemistry with Carson. He's fighting through injury. He's quite productive. I was one game, but he's quite productive last year to just. I mean, I don't know to me that speaks to a micro whose wives syracus last year, Doug Peterson, just kinda what they're able to do. Rain him in its al-shabaab. Such is such big addition to this team in a change, the change the offense. You said it wasn't. It did absolutely man. So I'm glad I was right on that when I'm glad we can end on a positive note. This offense is gonna be fine as we move along. This defense still has some things to figure out, but luckily there's eight home games on the schedule for the year, so we should win all eight of those with hundred twenty points scored against us. Shutout. Ben, I think that covers it for today. Obviously, what will be doing next as the next shows to drop will be the press conferences. Doug Peterson, Jim Schwartz might grow as usual after that. We will have seen the coaches film the all twenty two, and we will go more in depth on what we saw past live viewing will have seen it with our third. I the third, I raven type stuff, whatever you wanna call it, but Ben sick advise the gentlest nurse and Emma one now our launch game of thrones never to have you seen the trailer why? Yeah, go see the, it's it's leaked the trailer. It's incredible. Where's it on the internet's? Why north on the internet? Will you send it to me dearest, I think I think my wife showed me where it wasn't like some bootleg site. How did you? How did you did you see it at not send it to me, we talk every day were best friends because it was on my wife's phone and she showed it to me like some host on face ball. Tell your wife the Senate. She has my number. Oh. Own inappropriate. What is what? No. What the hell. No, that will not stand. We got to end the show on that. That was who thanks the BG on radio show your momma jokes hint the Tennessee eagles recap as always I'm Benjamin Sollac on Twitter page. That's SO. I k he's Michael kiss on Twitter and kiss NFL. That's k. I s. t. hunting gear. I almost did. That's Michael kissed on his NFL that c. u. c. k. o. l. d. but I figured ever too much. PG thirteen episode. So hurt me fit what the hell. Over, you got to do tough loss. Can I say. I just ate a big l. who I don't know if I should ask you to rate the podcast now should ask you that while ago. Sixty seconds ago. But if you still want to only five star ratings are accepted in the system, we are still on the quest for five hundred, be cool to get five hundred before we got the Vikings game, big one coming on like on Sunday, but he the white. Thank you so much for listening. Thank you so much for sticking through the derail. As is tradition here on the show. We'll catch you later the week. I can't even say anything back because your mom loves you in tears. You and stuff. I can't. I can't even have anything. We all we got. We all we need fly eagles fly. I'm back on that one. At this point you're on Amelia, which is like my like feeble little attempt to now I know just get beaten into submission. When you let your little brother like, you know, win a little bit in the video game. Let him not off the platform wants a super smash brothers and they all right now the the playing field is even sleep with my wife. That's not like letting you win at a video game that was. I'm sorry, you loved it over the plate had to be done. That's. That's fair. That's fair. It's fun. We'll probably catch. She's a woman though when she's she's close to her tested soon. Isn't it? December? Yeah, she'll be graduating soon, and it's going to be awesome willing. Will she have more time time for what? No, not like act like, you know, like you like you got the young and everything like it when she's done with school, I'm sure your schedules will get easier. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no. And then football seasonable, but we'll be over shortly after that. So we'll get to spend some time together three three way. You went on some awesome calls. Thank you very comfortable with that.

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