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"copycat crimes" Discussed on All In The Mind
"So behavioral contagion can be devastating as in the case of suicide or benign like the examples of facial mimicry described earlier by Dr Suzanne. Schweizer how else does behavioral contagion play out among humans well? Copycat crimes are another example and from mass shootings in the US to needles in strawberries here in Australia. They can be terrifying. Tragic and bizarre. Dr Michelle noon is a criminologist and psychologist with our MIT university. So when we first joking about copycat crime that was in the nineteen seventies The FBI were very interested in copycat crime in the United States. And that was because they was You know a raft of serial killers. Who doing the illegitimate work. So to speak they were Taking people's lives and that particular set of crimes tend to have sort of signature Maneuvers around it. So the FBI made choices to limit the amount of information available to the public knowing that people. Potentially we're going to copy those crimes become copycat killers and that way they'd be able to distinguish if it was the original killer that they will often or or new killer. Says what you're originally from. How common are copycat crimes as a segment of crime? Yeah we really don't know why It's it's really hard to pinpoint but we do think that. In the case of mass murder US mess mood is different to serial killing when those events happen. We do think that there is often. I guess the contagion effect But maybe not a copycat effect. What's the difference there? I guess when we think about copycat with thinking about really expressed behavior way people linking it in their motive. So they coming up inside that I've seen XYZ happen and I'm inspired by those behaviors. And I'm going to engage in similar behaviors. So it's quite a conscious process when we think about a contagion effect. This is where we've got stuff happening in the world around us Kind of the soup that we leaving colon and rubs off on us. So there's behaviors that get normalized for us and that might then inform how we behave and this can be from the smallest things to the biggest things so you know. It's not by chance that in the United States is a very high rate of mass Mussa and that high rate of Mess Motor. We think is. Gt things like you know. Patriarchy and the expression patriarchy access to guns but also because of a contagion effect so the behaviors become normalized. The Columbine High School shooting in Nineteen Ninety nine is probably one of the earliest mass school shootings in the US. That's also widely known doctor. Noon says coverage of that event may have contributed to a contagion effect. He was a time where the media cycle hedge been quickening. They'd been accessed information In new ways and there was also a deep interest from the community for what had happened and questions about how you know. It could never happen again so that you know that big question mark. I guess was presented by into the media you know. How do we stop this ever happening again? Interestingly maybe had D- day we even we don't have a lot of evidence rounds but this kanner intuitive response where the more coverage that said events. Gosh the Milwaukee was to inspire copycat events which is what we might have seen once we know that. How do we combat that or the incidents of contagion or copycat crimes? It's a great question so one of the things that they've done. The United States is promote protocols around media reporting so this is way. The meat era asked very nicely to not report on particular elements of those crimes and that includes things like the person's name. The person's cited marshy. If there are things that we would easily find an `social media fades The manifestos if they publish lawyers and the reason. The media encouraged not to report these things. It informs the kind of infamy that people who commit mass modem may be seeking and it also then tells other people who may have similar most use that It's a good opportunity for them to commit similar atrocities we're also seeing increasingly killers live streaming. They're they're murderers on social media. One example would be the Christ Church Moss shooting. How much does that worry you as a criminal just for the potential there to make you know copycat crimes even more More likely I guess you know we talk about people seeking infamy and doing that through criminal behavior is is very very unusual set of behaviors and a very very was kind of unusual psychological presentations so as terrifying as it. Is it a piece and I guess also as you know maybe why so interesting is because we kind of intrinsically? That is very unusual for that reason. I guess it doesn't worry me that much but that's not to say that it couldn't happen mole But I don't think is necessarily increasing evidence of Dash. But you know that's because what we're talking about is a very very very small number events that happened internationally. A perhaps less devastating example of copycat crime is the spate of needles. That were found in strawberries across Australia a few years ago. This investigation is contained within Queensland. We believe the behavior here. Is that of copycats. I asked Dr noon. What would compel someone to carry out a crime like that again? We know a lot and that is because we don't have a lot of data points and because when it comes to that particular set of behaviors you know. We don't have a lot of follow up so you know we have good good data because people don't come forward and say all you know. I elected to go to my local. We'll eason put an Adl in story and just see what would happen. One of the things that are that we think may have happened are and certainly was part of the police response at the time. So the place came out and asked people to stop doing this. Was that people perhaps going into you know they local supermarket and putting a needle into fruit that other people would consume but they were taking that free time putting a needle in it and then putting noise peaches up on social media So in a funny way it wasn't that people were doing copycat offending. They will almost doing a copycat victimizing but again. We don't really know but that's one of the guesses that we have so And I guess you could argue that. That's the way you know for people to get in this getting on the story you know. I guess otherwise. We might put around that. If moving a bit harsher would pay attention seeking behaviors. I think one thing to say about crime is that the reason possibly we don't have good research around it is As a criminal just I started my career trying to figure out why people crime and I can tell you right now. The fist year unique didn't have the answers and it wasn't as it can be a it wasn't It wasn't even a page state. They've done the research. I've tried to figure out the question. It was in the spent billions of dollars. And what they conclusively found is that we have no answer particularly con- of You. You big scandal. Crimes ARE SERIAL KILLING MASS. Meta these the absolute edge of bill cove kind of phenomena that we're talking about so when we think about it that way it's hard for us to do research on what happens if we tweak this little variable will it have an impact over here on crime rates. That research is really hard for us to do. That's Dr Michelle noon criminologist and psychologist from our mitee and lest we leave you feeling totally dejected about the impact of behavioral contagion. Here's some heartening news. Positive behaviors can spread to go both ways but we also see is we see donations increase if others make donations that are high but in Teens. Also you see from cultural background value families. You can see helping behaviors and you can see this increasing in context in which this is more socially we would it. That's Dr Suzanne Schweizer psychology lecturer at Eunice. W and. That's all in the mind for this week. Thanks to producer Diane Dean and Sound Engineer. Amorous Cronin if this episode has raised any issues for you. You can ring lifeline on thirteen eleven fourteen or kids health line on one eight hundred fifty five one eight hundred. We've also linked to support services on our website. I'm Santa Qatar catching next time. You've been listening to an ABC podcast. Discover more great. Abc. 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"copycat crimes" Discussed on Amanpour
"Doctor. Do you even know your doctor's name and a lot of people don't because they've lost that relationship because the insurance company is driving your healthcare or or the government is driving healthcare. None of these things are good. You WanNa start with a doctor that you trust and this is why. I'm such a big fan of direct primary care a model again. It already exists. It's really great. We're talking about a website that you go to put in your Zip Code and you have a list of doctors. We're talking seventy five bucks a month and you have total access to that doctor. That's what people are looking for especially my generation. You WANNA be able to go on an APP and find a doctor that way. Make your choice and find them and then choose your insurance. Your doctor helps you choose. What insurance works for you? Let's make insurance more portable. Let's make it cheaper. Have more choices. And let's not rip away the insurance that you might already like from your employer via Medicare for all but if you have that primary care system that you talked about and you don't have insurance what happens. Win That Primary Care. Doctor says you need some serious medical. I'm not claiming that this solves the insurance problem claiming that there's a lot of steps we need to take if we're going to be if we're going to be smart about this. There's a lot of steps we need to take to make insurance cheaper so that you can buy the insurance right now. You can't afford that okay. But now now if you're so forth forty it you're eligible for Medicaid and programs like that so you know the also it's kind of this notion that we don't have any sort of subsidies or any sort of public options is false. We do right and they target the right people. So what I'm talking about is primary care. Which is your first touch. One with healthcare. But if you did that wouldn't make sense to expand Medicaid which has not been done in Texas Texas legislature but the the arguments pretty strong against that you're doing is inviting more more federal more. Federal involvement in your Medicaid system potentially making completely unsustainable fiscally speaking. That's why Texas is has been reluctant to do that. As your opinion on gunge change at all over the past couple of years because of the number of mass shootings. We seem to have the past couple of years. We've had less shootings than we have past thirty years. So yeah in orange that more guns than we've ever had so you know it depends on how you want to torture the data right and you can make an argument. You want is more guns being in the hands of society actually causing mass shootings or is or is or. Is there a deeper problem? A deeper cultural problem. That's occurred ever since the columbine shooting ever since Columbine shooting we've had some sort of copycat crime where somebody who's disturbed and unhappy an angry. They looked this model. They looked at this horrible dramatic model of a shooting. And they WANNA do that and if they can't do that they'll do a mass stabbing or drive a truck through somebody. You're seeing these copycat crimes happen. We used to have guns in schools right. People used to take their hunting rifles to school. We didn't have the so. Why is that and and I wish we would being overly emotional about how we're trying to assess this problem and realize that it's a very hard problem but in it might feel good to ban some kind of weapon that's responsible for less than three percent of all deaths but the question is going to do good and the answer is very much. I think pretty obvious that no it won't make you feel good for a little bit until the next crisis happens and then you'll do different people's rights to defend themselves. The thing is every time you have shooting and you want to implement a certain policy to prevent that shooting. You have to be able to tie that new policy to the shooting itself. And you can't do that in any of these on any of these cases. I mean I've looked into this like literally. None of these cases would the Democrats gun control measures. Be Able to be tied back to that shooting that we're all angry about and so that's your first level of analysis. And if you can't do that then they'd be asking the wrong questions to begin with. What do you think is are the main causes of this? I mean what can we do? There's a gun violence in general gun violence in general especially random shooting. Yeah and that's and that's what gets people upset right because you've got to distinguish between this thing so crime as a whole has gone down dramatically. It's going up lately because of Some of the bigger cities of and then the reforms that they're making which are not generally good but Overall crime has gone down a lot when there are shootings in a lot of gun violence. It's generally criminal related. Drug related gang related. Okay that's that's A. That's a certain problems that we have to solve usually solved through better law enforcement practices. Then there's these dramatic shootings that are random and an a better way. A better word for the mass shooting that you're trying to describe is a randomized shooting. It's almost like a terrorist attack in some ways it's indiscriminate and therefore it's scary. It's it's extremely scary. Because you never know what can happen. What can you do about it? I think you have to look at the ultimate cause cause was ever since columbine ever since columbine there's been this copycat crime so is it better mental health practices as is it a is it more investment in the right kind of practitioners at our schools better investment in school safety so that somebody can't actually access a school here in Houston. I think we do that quite a bit. I can't access the school without not without an appointment. And maybe that's maybe that's the right way to do it So a lot of the solutions have to be localized. Some school. Districts are fine with arming some teachers who maybe exit veterans. Things like that other school districts aren't that's not that's not a policy that should be coming from the federal government down to the local level. You're Republican from Houston and you're in the lead in some ways on environmental issues for the Republican Party. You and scholars from car thinking others explained to me your bill in which you would do on environmental issues so my bills the new energy frontier my bills. It's part of a much larger plan that McCarthy is leading and it deals with carbon capture as it relates to natural gas so carbon capture is a proven technology and we have plants right outside Houston other coal-burning or natural gas burning that in the natural gas side of zero emissions and they power five thousand homes all right so re circulates the C O two through the plant in power. Five thousand homes. It's natural gas on my God. Fossil fuels fracking and turns out if you ban fracking you actually increase emissions. Why because while you have to rely on coal power five coal powered plants? There's again there's a coal power plant right outside. Houston that takes the equivalent of three hundred thousand cars off the road every day by carbon capture. So we need to be looking at technology that's functioning that's works and looking at ways to scale that out all right so so My Bill simply repurposes. Doe Grant Money to focus on on on projects like that. This ought to create a carbon innovation. Hub Tell us that does the fundamental science on what kind of utilization can can be derived from carbon dioxide. Why does it have to be a waste product? Maybe it's a commodity not maybe it is a commodity it can be used cement production chemical processes greenhouses algae farms enhanced oil recovery. There's actually a lot of uses. Let's figure those out. There's actually there's there's people out there who theorized that you can create energy right out of co two. So this isn't this isn't science fiction. This is real stuff. What else would you do in terms of both climate and environment besides carbon sequestration? We'll part of that plan is resiliency so we need to prepare for rising sea levels and a good way to prepare for rising sea levels is not to make your economy poorer which was like more of the green new deal approach planting a trillion trees. The trillion projects sounds simple people. Think People Kinda laugh at IT I. It's not carbon sequestration technology We already have it as it turns out. It's called trees plant more of them and lead the way on that a lot of mental behind that already and you know what already happens at a local corporations have have signed onto this idea. Let's let's keep planting..
Copycat Crimes? Rothys Cries Foul and Steve Madden Fights Back
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Law enforcement on high alert for copycat mass shooters in wake of recent tragedies
"Law enforcement across the country still on high alert after the recent mass shootings in el Paso in Dayton and the biggest concern right now is copycat killers copycat crimes becoming a competitive sport yes actually they are in the I study shows eighty five percent of active shooters brag online about their potential plan CBS news law enforcement and security analyst Paul violas equally as disturbing is the fact that fifty four percent of the individuals that read well we're we're around the active shooters plans said and did nothing and we need to get more involved preemptively as evidenced by this empirical data we can make a big impact and we can do it soon and that report from CBS's Meg
"copycat crimes" Discussed on SOFREP Radio
"I think it's worse today with with the internet with social media that these people are in a sense committing copycat crimes that they see someone else. Do it like. Oh, yeah. That's absolutely. Because now it's out there. They can you can look up anything, and you can see actual visual visual representations of what these people did. And they get these people have mental issues and look at us. I. Do that, you know, I'll be famous all show him, you know, type of thing. You know, what this might have been a better question for someone. Like, Dan Bongino, who was secret service that we had on? But I'm wondering your take on it with the last two presidents in particular. You know, you've Barrack Obama was the first black president. There's plenty of white supremacist activity out there, Donald Trump is hated by all types of groups how many serious death threats to the president. Do you think intelligence has toward it? I think they have dozens and dozens of both, you know, these people they get so incensed in especially with the the media and is not much so much. Material that's out there through the internet. These people access it, and they get all worked up over it. You know? I mean, both presents were pretty divisive even stuff. That's not true. Exactly. And they believe this stuff. You know, people post things that, you know, all this is the truth. What you know? This is what happened when when in fact, it's not even close to being reminds me of that pizza gate thing where the guy with a with a rifle shows up at a pizza party pizza parlor in DC because he thinks the Democrats running pedophile parties or some crazy shit, and Asman? it's like. Just think anybody can post anything. And that's the scary part, and people will believe it. Yeah. I mean, we've discussed this is why the families of the sandy hook victims of those children are suing Alex Jones because they felt there were threats on their lives from him coming out there. There was one guy who was a part of the family who started an organization to kind of take down the speech conspiracy stuff out there about the sandy hook families being actors and it being a hoax and watching that. What would you call it? The pre disposition the position deposition, Alex with Alex Jones, the thing that was that stood out in particular because I actually wanted to learn more about you know, why they were suing him in particular. But so one of these guys started an organization to get rid of this type of speech out there on the internet. But he was not public about who he was Alex Jones went out there and gave this guy's PO box number on the air revealing his identity, and the lawyer questioning Alex Jones was saying, you know, dozen this mean that one of your fans who might be mentally ill or something could wait outside that PO box possibly shoot. This guy serious things out there to to some people are just guy giving, you know, using his free speech, but to other people this could. There could be a death involved in in someone. They believe is involved in some crazy conspiracy theory, there's a lot of mentally ill people consuming media. And it's weird because I am a true believer in one hundred percent free speech at the same time that I would say that does cross the line of free speech when it can involve. I don't know. They're just has to be I guess the way it would put it. There has to be some responsibility of what you put out there knowing that there are people consume what you're putting out there, and believing whatever you're saying and revenge for whatever it is. You're putting out there. Well, you know. Civility is going by the wayside, you know, and people they're faceless entities behind a keyboard. And they feel that they could say whatever they want and go from Alex Jones, whatever again, use some commonsense. Whatever you say and do can affect other people's lives to people could die get injured or whatever. But the seems to be less control..
"copycat crimes" Discussed on NewsRadio 1080 KRLD
"As you heard we do have some scattered shower. So wet roads something you'll will have to contend with as well. I'm Joyce Nielsen your next report at ten fifty eight and breaking traffic alerts when they happen. KRLD weather center forecast for statewide remodeling. No showers. Joyce talked about throughout the area. Mostly on a line north west of Dallas. It's it's a line that stretches from Irving through farmers branch Addison Richardson into plano, those are the heaviest of the showers north and west of that areas in areas like Parker and Alan the colony Frisco seeing lighter rain, but again, this rain it's in this patch in it's moving through the area towards the southeast should clear out later today. The sun's coming back sixties for the highs Farren chilly tonight. We'll see lows in the upper forties tomorrow mostly sunny on Good Friday by seventy warmer on Saturday. Eighty degrees for Easter Sunday, partly sunny with a high of eighty to sixty five in Arlington, sixty two and four worth sixty four KRLD news, traffic and weather all day. Listen on your smart speaker, just say play KRLD. Thanks for staying with us. Ten fifty. I'm David Rankin. More people move to Dallas Fort Worth last year than any other area of the country census bureau says we had one hundred thirty two thousand people moving in in the last year Phoenix is the second fastest growing area. Houston is third ninety two thousand people moved into Houston in the last year. In fact, four of the ten fastest growing counties are in Texas as well. Harris County in Houston, the third fastest growing. They added thirty four thousand Collin counties. Fourth Taryn county is the eighth fastest growing county in the country possible copycat crimes stopped in New York City. I'm Tom Foty two days after that devastating fire in Paris, which destroyed parts of the legendary Notre Dame cathedral. There has been arrested New York City Saint Patrick cathedral. The NYPD says a New Jersey man entered the cathedral with two cans of gasoline lighter. Fluid and lighter.
"copycat crimes" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"OTM. Glad to be here. The messages back and forth were extensively private. How did they find their way into your hands? So discord works through authentication. And so if someone who wants to investigate far-right Nazi's fascist white supremacists. If they work at it. They can create a false identity that appears to be another fascist. They can then become vetted, then they can be allowed into inner rooms more, quote, unquote, elite chat rooms, and so forth, and essentially the account has access to all the pertinent chat rooms in the server, and then you can basically use particular software to pull out every individual chat. And then you can archive all the chats and develop a search engine to make the chats readable one of your pieces had some audio from chatter among those in the patriot front, I have a Glock nine millimeter Glock, and then three a are fifteen and all these are eighty percents women are retarded like I was in the same logic as you. And then I realized that one I was like. They can't like do this small percentage of maybe a rational. But like exactly that's why you beat them patriot front in particular. Those audio clips really highlight that misogyny is a critical element of fascist and authoritarian thinking, which is something that not everybody has picked up on. Also, clearly patriot front talks a lot about accumulating weapons. And preparing what's really threatening to is also people that are on their periphery who might be collecting weapons whom. I suddenly snap one day or work up towards something that actually gets to a third level of insight that discord chatter offers and that is that in the aggregate, it kind of dispels the myth of the lone wolf perpetrator if you go back and look at their chat history. You find out that maybe alone physically at the moment of the crime, but not alone in spirit. It's very clear that in terms of their frame of mind before they might try to kill lots of people do see themselves as acting in relation to something that is upheld and believed in via larger group of people. So in that sense, they might not have needed that much help logistically, but in terms of psychologically, bringing themselves to that point that is something that a lot of people are involved with. So you can't really think of them as being lone wolves one example that I would mention is Taylor Wilson Saint Charles van already facing terrorism charges for stopping an Amtrak train is now facing federal gun charges. She tried to hijack an Amtrak train the charges include possession of an unregistered barreled rifle an unregistered machine gun, and he was someone who was at Charlottesville at Saint Charles home, the FBI later discovered all right and Neo Nazi literature as well. As more munition and gunpowder he was a participant in. Chats with a number of different groups, including the traditional Workers Party, national socialist, legion. And he was sentenced to fourteen years in prison after he was arrested, and that's an example of someone who acted alone, but still was certainly acting as if he was connected and motivated by a larger network, you could say that discord identifies crimes that were copycat crimes. But I didn't even think copycat is quite the right word. It's more like a mosh. They're done specifically in tribute to those who have been violent before them, right? The way I would describe this is that because a lot of it has to do with memes or images. They'll take anyone that does a violent racist misogynist act that they can relate to and they'll break apart the imagery around that person and start remixing it, and then identifying with that they'll idolize Charles Manson or Breivik the man who shot all those people in Norway in the case of Dylann roof there was one group called bowl patrol, which took the imagery of his bowl haircut and remixed that to develop memes and messaging. They're also the Clark brothers who lived around Washington. DC these Washington DC brothers and their possible connection to Senegal shooting suspect Robert Bowers. They were in touch with the man that massacre the Jewish people in Pittsburgh and one of those brothers was arrested on weapons charges days after allegedly posting on social media that. The shooting in squirrel hill was quote, a dry run for things to calm. What's been kind of amazing to me is that even regular people sometimes reached out to us like they've said, they're suspicious that their niece might be dating a dangerous white supremacist, and they are still figure out is this the same guy as I think this guy is because he might have the same nickname or whatever. And in the case where that inquiry came in. It was true. It was that guy and was able to take action there. You would think that whatever unicorn riot is doing pales in comparison to what the FBI is collecting towards the department of homeland security is collecting for the purposes of anticipating the next attack happening completely by chance. I had an encounter with a US attorney or assistant attorney, I think, and they were telling me that the FBI I didn't have information like this. And that they had found it very difficult even to get subpoenas to investigate Facebook group chats, even when there was a lot of evidence. It seems pretty clear that police state intelligence investigators weren't really on the ball before Charlottesville happen. They were taken by surprise to some extent. So they've been I think pushed into action by making these kind of data sets vailable, and then that's enabled a wider public community too. Raise the alarm and say, this is very dangerous people affiliated with racists and misogynists have been committing mass murders in the United States. And so I think that the picture is somewhat changing, Dan, it is axiomatic that sunlight is a disinfectant, and therefore the more that we can learn about the groups, especially the most violent ones, the better the society will be on the other hand great. We now know about the bowl patrol courtesy of unicorn riot. And so do a bunch of prospective bowl patrollers. In fact, so do maybe a much larger number because it's now disseminated via mass media. The driving force with these groups is really about power and intimidation and appearing to be strong. And so something like bowl patrol if they're internal messages get exposed. And it shows who's involved how they put it together how they're trying to manipulate people into buying into what they're selling that doesn't just reveal to everyone what their mechanisms are it also makes them look weaker. And that's a very important thing when it comes to dealing with authoritarian movements because it shows that they don't know what they're doing in terms of security it shows that they just sit around fighting with each other a lot it shows that they don't get along. They don't have a real plan. They can't put together a rally. They can't do all of the basic things that a political organization would want to do to advance its goals. So yes, it's true that by having an archive of incredibly derogatory unpleasant disturbing material that it's possible someone might connect to that. But this. This is also the chance to essentially a kind of information vaccine if you will you'd sort of say, this is the toxic material. This is how it works. This is what it's trying to do. It's actually very weak. And then that demystified the whole process for someone who is just trying to understand who might be vulnerable to this thinking, it takes the confusion out of it for a person like that. And it says what a bunch of losers, and it gives a person that many more reasons to walk away by using their own content and their own chats against them. We haven't seen any evidence come up that says, oh, well, you guys came up and discord leaks, and you look even better than you did before there's really been no evidence of that kind of line of thinking happening, Dan. Thank you. Thank you. It's really great to talk to you. Dan, fight is co-founder of the nonprofit media organization unicorn riot. Coming up in documenting the mechanics of jihadi.
"copycat crimes" Discussed on WBZ NewsRadio 1030
"A plea deal this afternoon that's just been offered up by prosecutors in Florida, the Palm Beach state attorney says if craft and the other. Twenty four men charged with soliciting prostitution accept this deal for first time offenders, they must admit that had they gone to trial. They would have been found guilty. If he agrees to this deal. Kraft would also have to perform one hundred hours of community service attend a class on the dangers of human trafficking and pay a court fee of ten thousand dollars. And in return, the misdemeanor charges would be dropped. Now, so far craft has pleaded not guilty. If he refuses the deal he will be put on trial, and if he's found guilty, he faces a possible year in jail. Meantime, the founder of the spa at the center of this prostitution sting is now coming under the microscope. Congressional Democrats want an investigation into whether the former owner was selling access to the president. Here's ABC's. Lana Zak in the capital Lee, Cindy Yang has taken several fees with members of the Trump family the administration and even the president himself, including a Super Bowl party and mar-a-lago and she allegedly us those photos to try and sell access to President Trump gangs. Business activities came to light after a spa that she founded and sold was caught in a prostitution sting involving New England Patriots owner, Robert Kraft, and now democratic leaders Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are asking for a criminal and counterintelligence investigation into the Florida businesswoman. On Zak ABC news the capitol. The US intelligence community is warning today that ISIS and al-qaeda are calling for counter attacks after the mosque massacre in New Zealand now security agencies around the globe are on alert over. Concerns of copycat crimes or revenge attacks and New Zealand is mourning the victims. Here's ABC's will car here in Christ Church. People are coming out at all hours of the day to pay their respects after the worst terror attack in this country's history. Authorities both here in New Zealand and the United States say there is now a real concern about copycats. It comes as both ISIS and Al Qaeda or calling for retaliation. Fifty people were killed in this attack more than thirty or still in the hospital. In New Zealand's, Prime minister says the gunman will face the full force of the law. The prime minister has also vowed to cover the funeral cost fifty funerals and the battle clear ISIS from its last stronghold in Syria entered a new critical phase today that story coming up at right now five eight Bloomberg's Tracy jonky. Joining us live with a look at business news. What's going on today? Trace Laurie Google has announced a new video game service and already there are winners and losers at least as far as invest. Are concerned AMD makes a chipsets gaming chips will be used in Google's data centers streaming the games from the cloud. The Tim maker's stock is up eleven percent. A loser game stop which could lose out on sales of game consoles because Google's stadia service can be played from tablets TV's and phones winners and losers on Wall Street in general, the Dow down twenty six points, the NASDAQ up dine the SNP down a third of a point I'm Tracy jonky, Bloomberg business on WBZ Boston's NewsRadio. Tom Cuddy was sports in a moment..
"copycat crimes" Discussed on The Filmcast
"I feel like we've lost it as we've moved towards better acting. So you know, cherish it. When you get you get a little bit of cheesiness, my wife, and I will go to the theater, and every time we just mimic what's going on screen with each other like the couple that hold hands and look each other dreamily, and I have to think that they cut out the guy throwing popcorn himself because people were mimicking that and getting popcorn all over the theater theory. Yeah, the story has up, you know, they're not the only problem with that. I'm sure. This story has has a terrible twist as Dan indicated, which is that popcorn guy is now gone. And I mean, he is there, but he's no longer throwing the popcorn that is to say his most defining characteristic has been stripped from him. And when you watch the AMC pre roll now popcorn guy just stares intently at the screen know throwing popcorn. I also would like to make it very clear that I have the deepest sympathy for these actors because there is no doubt in my mind that they got paid about two hundred bucks. One one time for that day as non union actors to come in and do a thing having no idea, it was going to be shown ad infinitum to hundreds of millions of people over and over and over again, and they would never see another penny for their whereas somebody hard work. Yeah. To literally at least once a month. Sometimes once a week. It's people tweeting at me pictures of me at the U haul on the U home. No, sure. For a photo that I was paid about seventy five dollars to take. And I've been using for fifteen years. I have the deepest of empathy for these for these people. So. Half of his role is gone. Yeah. Yeah. Well anyway list on his resume. Former popcorn guy theaters. See still the popcorn guy. He just doesn't do the puck weather, and by the way, I was trying to finish this before you drift to be Jeff basically, he he was taken up because ushers we're getting complaints that he was inspiring copycat crimes of popcorn throwing. The too good at what he does. Yeah. He's good at what people are like, oh, I'm gonna pretend like I'm that guy and pissing everyone off. So the problem is what you're saying. Yes. You are the problem. That's correct. Then it's correct. So at least Dan realizes that his his little bit isn't isn't original. Everybody got same idea. Yeah. There you go RIP popcorn guy. Really is where this is going. Okay. They'll always be in our hearts. That's what I've been watching this week. Dan, vast? Would it be watching? Well, I had the chance to attend a fathom event. Those kind of randomly scheduled movie times to see specialty films, and I saw the animated film Marai, which was recently nominated for a Golden Globe for best animated feature directed by Mamuro Hassanzadeh soda never said his name out loud before s- covering though. So did I say it. And it's a story about a little boy named Khan. And he has a he's like what two or three years old and his little he has a new baby sister that comes home, and it kind of causes him this intense amount of jealousy on that he begins to act out upon Davinder. You're familiar with the film. I'm familiar with the movie, it's something I've been meaning to see because it is all about adorable little kids and said a movies, you will cry like he he just pulls a heart string. So well, I have not seen this one yet. But I'm waiting to get my heart broken with it. Well, I think that is a very real possibility for you with this movie. It didn't move may to that level. But the audience around me was definitely tearing up, although I have to say in classic slash, film fashion. This is a fat event and a family whilst in bringing two of their like under the year of one children. Into the film who proceeded to talk and make noises and Google noises, the whole movie, which was perplexing to me because it's fathom event which means like it's a specialty thing you didn't just kind of like roll up. They thought it was just cartoons because it's a normal ticket price. Right. So it's like cartoons or not. Yeah..
"copycat crimes" Discussed on 790 KABC
"Andrew claybin here on the drive home with Jillian and John have been talking about a lot of different things today. But one of the themes that keeps coming up mostly because of these fires, but is the theme of courage and sacrifice. But also because it's Veterans Day. I mean, it's the idea of people who actually go out and put themselves on the line. It's it's something that scientists especially material sciences people who don't believe in the spirit, people don't believe in spirituality. They wrestle to understand that they come up with kind of evolutionary fairy tales about why people are willing to sacrifice themselves. When obviously the only purpose of your body is to live and to reproduce. But somehow people are become more than themselves. And they they are willing to sacrifice and lay down everything. Everything to help the rest of us in to help their country to put out fires. And you know, we were talking about the fact that that the Thousand Oaks fire kind of Iraq. From the imagination so dramatic at a radical from the imagination the shooting that took place twelve people killed at a country music bar a madman going in. And you know, I I don't think one of the things about that shooting that it didn't capture the imagination of the mostly left wing press. Since the press is mostly left wing as they always liked the hammer about the guns. It's always about the guns. I mean, these stories really about mental illness, they really are about mental illness about the fact that our ability to help mentally ill, people are the polices. Ability to put them away to have families ability to put them away to make sure they don't hurt other people to make sure they get their meds. It has fallen apart. That system has fallen apart mistakes about protecting their rights ideas that we're protecting their rights really have left them helpless. You know, they've left them helpless. There's nothing there are maybe it's been estimated there are four hundred thousand mentally ill people in prison. Right because they weren't taken care of they. Could've gone into an asylum. They could have gotten the meds they needed. But instead they went out in the street, and they committed an act of violence, and they end up in prison, which of course is hell for mentally ill person. And of course, that also means that they hurt somebody else. So somebody else was hurt as well. And one of the reasons the left doesn't like to talk about this is because they don't want to demonize the mentally ill because of the vast majority of mentally ill people aren't violent, but pardon me, the mentally ill who are violent are at risk. And the people around them are at risk. And if we don't help them if we don't put them inside if we don't restrain them if we make sure that they take their meds. They're going to go off and do something terrible. Like what happened in Thousand Oaks? And I don't like to mention the names of shooters because I don't want to glamorize them. I don't want to give them any incentive to, you know, for anyone to do any copycat crimes. But this guy was obviously mentally ill only killed twelve people. But here's the thing. He went in to this place. And and it was mostly college kids, partying and. The boys the men the young men immediately. Gave themselves up. They want one of them put a chair through a window. And then the men helped shepherd the women out the door, some of the men actually what they call dog pile the women put their bodies over them ready to sacrifice themselves for the women, and the press doesn't like to write about this too. Because it's anti-feminist. I am an anti-feminist. I'm in favor of everybody doing whatever he or she wants to do with feminism strikes me as a small mean inhuman philosophy. Demonize men that sets men and women against each other. When men and women typically actually have need for each other and love for each other and feminism poses. This is some kind of power play. I just believe all of that is a lie. I believe that, you know, the state of women has changed over time because of technology and different economic things that have changed the lives of women but women in the west have not been oppressed. And so it's a moment to stop and recognize the fact that this is something we get from men when we talk about. The comedians father who rushed into the building to save people on nine eleven those were men that were firemen or policemen. Who rushed into those buildings. I'm not saying that there aren't women who do these things there are. But they're the exception. They're not the rule. The rule is it's men men who go out and fight. These fires men who throw their bodies over women because it is in our blood to protect women is another thing. I can't stand about feminism is the talk about toxic masculinity. Most guys, especially when they're little when their kids, and they have daydreams, and they think about the kind of heroes. They'd like to be grow up to be most of them spend most of their time having daydreams about protecting women from danger. That's what you wanna be. You wanna be superman who flies down and saves the woman from danger you want to be the hero. The soldier who saves the woman from the bad guys the cowboy who walks out into the street, and some men have the ability and the chance and the courage to actually fulfill that role, and it is really worth it. It is worth it to stop and just a little bit of respect just pay a little bit of respect for what a man is. When he is a man, it is something really as you go back through time on Veterans Day as you look at the bodies that lay on all these fields that were are the bodies, the men the lives of protected us and our freedom that protected who we are so many of them. So many of them are men almost all almost all. That's not. You always have to say this. You have to say, well, it's not in the gate the sacrifice of the mothers who sent them out. But let's, but let's put that aside for just a minute. And talk about the fact that this is an aspect of masculinity. This is who every man who is a man wants to be not everybody can be that, man. But everybody wants to be that guy. Those of us who never served live to regret it. I certainly lifted got it. I was nowhere near that kind of mindset when I was a kid was too messed up, but as an adult, I know that this is what men do they protect they serve. They sacrifice when when we see it when we see it is time to stop and give it praise. You know, it's like it is the thing that is so wrong with our political world that we cannot just turn to the natural way. We were made the natural life that most of us live the natural way. We feel about one another without making it in some kind of political hot potato that has to be passed back and forth. It's men. It's men who do the fighting. It's men who do the protecting. It's men who have kept us alive. And free. All these many years on Veterans Day. I know they're female veterans and God love them. God bless them. But all through history as you look back. It is men who have protected us and kept us free and God love them. And we ought to celebrate them. All right. I'm Andrew klavan filling in for Jillian and John.
"copycat crimes" Discussed on Last Podcast on the Left
"He wore one of the guys ears as a make shift necklace. And he wore this around the jail for like two long before the jailguards finally understood what happened. The attack was believed to happen Thursday morning, if this was at a Columbia Correctional Institution and with sources telling this paper that the killer who has not yet been identified, left his victims eyeballs in a Cup with the with the intention of later eating or drinking them. He's turned his eyeballs into pruneau I guess, pretty so. Yeah, but if you are, if you are in prison by the way, I'm not gonna sit here and lie. If I was in prison, I would immediately be like, where is the Pru now? What do we have to have to get the pruneau? And if you're like, what is in this bra? Like what's in the parental? This one tastes really good. Funny man. The nation. Can we just I would very quickly become a prune. Oh, sommelier. Oh, you have to be. I've really, honestly, I would love to taste it just wants. Is it mad? Dog twenty twenty. It has to be worse than dog every kind of fun. Like, ooh, this is good wine and what it's made for that. He'd like he's got an aqap and the app. See, he's throws a Bank. Corners. Well, it is. The inmate that was murdered. He was a fifty eight-year-old has name was Larry Mark, and he was serving a life sentence for murder that he committed in nineteen eighty one. So he had actually been in there for quite a while and you would think, you know, I get it man, just having a roommate in a spacious two bedroom or three bedroom is hard. Having roommate having a cellmate. We kind of laugh about it, but really think about what a nightmare. That is the snoring, just watching them go to the bathroom constantly. Like if you're also a murderer crime, right? Both of you. I imagine you're not really great with strangers to begin with, and now you're. Immediate meet to where you're avid. Yeah, it's very, very intense. I'm not going to do well in jail. I ever go. I can't go, but the thing and I can see it, you get med-. Oh, absolutely. So this is a court into a statement from the correctional facility. They said they're working with our partners at the Florida Department of law enforcement to investigate this death and ensure that everyone responsible is held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. Florida's key Florida corrections officers have in this is how the kind of made an excuse year Florida. Corrections officers have an extremely difficult job and we ask and expect a lot of them despite the staffing challenges that exist at our restitution. I would say the one thing that you could try to do is make sure that the cellmates aren't gouging each other's is house. Make a Kool-Aid out of somebody's retina, how you know when the eyeballs are about the gadget out, you'll hear this from cell and then what you looking at? Oh, nothing like feel like he looked at me for something. Now I'm just looking over there. You happen to walk a happy weapon to walk across my frame of site. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'll give you something to look at how about this book. No mind here fucking spoon. You go in there and you grab because go to Papas is out because I feel like dish would lead to a budget copycat crimes. Sure, sure. I watch a lot of those prison shows, and obviously prison is a prison. Violence is extremely common, but if somebody asks you what you're looking at in, you're going to sell the you, you got bars or like three walls and then little window. I mean, there's not a lot of options. So a pretty easy to your at out a good way to cut tension in a prison cells instead of saying, what are you looking at? Say penny for your thoughts because that's really Haiti lead with kindness, right? With lead with curiosity, instead of a mmediately threatening and right..
"copycat crimes" Discussed on 710 WOR
"The god the co host of power one oh fives the breakfast club he's going to join us to talk about his book black privileged now out in paperback today we'll tell you about his book signing tomorrow charlemagne's a god chocolate our ahead so all right in our big three the terrible news from toronto ten people were killed in toronto yesterday when a driver plowed into them fifteen people in the hospital now the not calling this lenny terrorist activity the guy does not appear to be affiliated with isis or inspired by isis we don't know much about this the guy who did this motor now apparently you know they say he was quiet kept to himself alec his name is twenty five years old he did he did a jump out of the car and yelled to the police kill me well ahead he assumed opposed it looked like a suiting pose apparently was a cell phone with his hand but he's aiming at the police now if that happened anywhere else he would have been shot dead so he's incredibly lucky in a way that those police in toronto were restrained because he wanted to be killed it was going to be suicide by cop is no question about are these copycat crimes are really awful you go and rent a van and you just drive it writing to people it happened here as you know in new york in fact i was jogging on the path where it happened last fall wherein isis inspired terrorists he was a terrorist lynn ran over those poor argentinians they've got they now have the blocks up so that you can't drive onto the bike path where i live in the west village so kind of been one over on this argument to me what happened in toronto if you're walking on the street you're terrified and that's a form of terrorism but but i understand it we had a caller and you made the point as well that if you're a spouse a cause of some kind yeah maybe that's the definition of terrorism as opposed to just being nuts yeah sky may have been if there's a plot that involves a number of people or if you've been spiraled by been inspired by isis like organization political statement by doing a terrorist act that is the.
"copycat crimes" Discussed on talkRADIO
"The size of the penalty the deters crime how you get an yeah all you going to be searched up and such all you got to be found at to have this weapon and the other thing too tonight is a lot of these sorts of crimes tend to be copycat crimes as well so coming back to your alia point this morning about freedom of media rene responsibility to report to what extent does the reporting of details actually in colorado the analogy alum gino and i just thought that we're mall was talking about how they can carry it in a drinks bottles say again with owner they gathered to meet is very response from i think like bomb hoaxes bomb hoaxes very rarely reported often these now come out on twitter of the people's republic because it at once you do should promote more horn of heck but then we called not report horrific crime six someone's fairly assertive something in an education is affected too and everett nautical in which case it's mainly people under twenty that use acid and that they just can't calculate horror of it and that being educated either in jail hopefully before they go to upset munawar my pit height on that is naming terrorists against that encourages looked that's up that she in florida the idea the issue should name the shouldn't named these ahead at the defeatists because you give them some sort of glory that they want that's right you very much under macleod's anta mocked edible from you coming up to say to read a weather warning has not been issued for south west england that's a red whether warning issued his half his in at that means we do not travel a jet full stop just do not travel stay at home it keep warm put the catalogue frankly and of course l said if he's had earlier the ediborah airport is closed until at least ten a m its editor apple your plan to fly etter apple is closed let's get the latest headlines now here talk radio with seventy will go head lorries good morning as you would just hearing within the last few minutes of red whether warning has been issued full southwest england it remains in.
"copycat crimes" Discussed on KGO 810
"The right but he doesn't believe ninety percent of the stop on violence restrain laundry all the place or so the the the key here is is that trump doesn't really believe in although the rightwing and the conservative stuff so it's not natural for him if he's not coached he'll come and be the old trump the trump of the nineties you know with ya fly at that kind of stuff so here is again and feinstein is speaking at fine i find senators me is speaking and looks like jared's there at the table with him as well and listen to what he says because this is classic trump in the firearms first and then go for it because that's another system because a lot of times by the time you go to court it takes so long to go to court to get the due process procedures i like taking the gun gerling like in this crazy man's case that just took place in florida he had a lot of fires they saw everything to go to court would have taken to have so you could do exactly what you're saying but take the gun spurs go through due process i too fat needs to processed by the way includes subpoenas and and and getting the ability to go into somebody's property so he what he's saying is all violate the constitution there's always you seen exactly that it's a should first take ask questions later at who process is a part of the fourteenth amendment and it guaranteed to everybody so if if they did if they just do parts about this if he did what he said they'd be violating the guy's constitutional rights in the second part he already when he caught the president i'd states kona crazy man he's the he's an alleged you know others nicholas crews at his name oh good sugars would have those who think that every eu at that's a stupid that we don't said he people's now i know you know like to do it i'd how it on the idea that it's going cost another person to go i want my name on the radio mast ridiculous i disagree that okay well i mean there's been a job slowly now are copycat there isn't there is literal evidence that there is copycat crimes right after mass shootings yes gyula horn on every single match aiding and what it's not because the.
"copycat crimes" Discussed on KOMO
"From westwood one news 36 minutes past my name is evan haning good morning to you all there have been eighteen school shootings in this year's first forty five days so let's talk about it again there are several ways to highlight or underlined the problem that's an average shooting every sixty hours more than double the number of school shootings in 2017 2016 or 2015 for the same period thoughts and prayers well it's a nice gesture but it's not bulletproof one thing that is comforting is saying the moms and dads hugging their kids the surviving kids from the school shooting that can highlight our blessings and maybe make us more grateful for what we have even more than that for what we have lost which they have the number to call all these eight hundred seven three six three six six six of course first light radio a gmailcom school shootings aren't the only mass shootings of course there was a shooting at the republicans baseball practice were congressman scott lease was hit the las vegas water in the past we have talked about the possibility that focusing so much news coverage on the shootings may be encouraging them creating copycat crimes but other people make the point that europe over 30000 gun deaths each year seventy five thousand nonfatal firearm injuries and they say we should talk about this but let's not glorified huh you agree maybe have the kind of discussion uh we're about to have this morning eight hundred seven three six three six six six as you call and the winds are lighting up i want to get to as many people as possible we have more on their shooting from clayton devil shots rang out just before the end of the school the fire alarm went off and students left their classrooms it's believed the alarm could have been a tactic used by the shooter to expose more people many students at it first sounded like fireworks but the reality of what was happening quickly set in students ran for their lives police converged on the scene this man lives a mile from the school and guide guys running down into the school it would be a bulletproof vests helmets air fifteen's and i i got there is a few pairings in early november freaking out panicking try and trying to begin contact with their kids policing nineteen year old nicholas cruz was arrested in nearby coral springs cruise reportedly was expelled from.
"copycat crimes" Discussed on Hollywood And Crime
"But here's something strange these men attacked and kidnapped viola norton in alhambra then they drove sixteen miles to the merck park only to two dumper out in some strangers backyard but why does lamont park sound familiar that's because it's where elizabeth shorts body was found in a vacant lot thirteen months earlier and that location thirty nine th at norton was just five blocks from the backyard were viola norton was found were the men planning to murder mrs norton at the dalai site was this have failed copycat crimes some sort of madness gone awry or merely a weird coincidence or was it possible that these two men were in some way connected to the murder of the black dahlia two days later monday february 16th nineteen 48 realtor fred lion was showing a prospective buyer at beautiful home on cromwell avenue in the lows fearless section of the hollywood hills all was going as usual as they toured the empty house until they walked into the kitchen on the floor with a body a woman lying in a large pool of blood a female real estate agent was found today in a vacant home in los angeles police say glasses khan had been stabbed in the back with an eightinch jungle combat knife the knife which was found at the scene had been wiped clean of fingerprints also found at the scene a bloodsoaked man's handkerchief police say mrs khan had been missing since saturday a missing persons report was filed by her family yesterday she was not beaten or criminally assaulted nor was rabbani mutilated as has been typical in the socalled werewolf martyrs out of the city.
"copycat crimes" Discussed on WRVA
"In the armor that that the defense is able to put against the prosect chretien nothing again you know it's because of new so the trial were in any case in america you know depends on the outcome and work dictates fiat and boots the courtappointed lawyer that was hired had absolutely no experience in training murder cases number one number two although is available never ask for courtappointed investigator hopefully on earth they have somebody culpa tori evidence and more importantly never hired any expert firms say though for witnesses to assist live either for guilt innocence or punishment in texas you to face trial skilton madison semitic you with their found guilty go to punish the phase that the trial and even back then in capital murder cases they'll even courtappointed lawyers who were afforded of state's expense whatever experts they warranted would a minimum you hire uh uh expert witnesses to talk about his background the of the glow obvious there to avoid or capital of a capital punishment settle certain sort depth service but the lawyers her noone noone to how they pretty much his followed the rest of the the uh the crowd yell lip thrown torches and pretty works assisted lift a wrongful convicts nervous cured by doing nothing faye literally nothing while this kids in custody are there any other copycat crimes that took place that's you know he gash look if we've got this killer imprison how did this crime happen right well you know it would have been fortunate precare but there was not uh another murder rape mutilation they stopped and uh might very well have been because they had the right person in custody and that i realize circuiting close when they ran the up to cuba's says it worked out in this case update that the the actual murder who was in their hands and escaped lucklily and uh kohli got to go a little bit nervous who left to on the other um but they stop all right sale we're up against the break when we come back we'll continue mold the phone lines if you have questions for our guest a little later on in the lower haight if you'd like a chance to meet.
"copycat crimes" Discussed on KTLK 1130 AM
"The courtappointed lawyer that was hired had absolutely no experience training murder cases number one number two although is available never ask for courtappointed investigator to hopefully on earth summit culpa tori evidence and more importantly never hired any expert for him sick though expert witnesses to assist twitter either for guilt innocence her punishment in texas here to face trial skills since amid if you were found guilty girl punishment phase of the trial and even back there and in capital murder cases now even courtappointed lawyers who were afforded of state's expense whatever experts they warranted it a minimum you hire uh uh expert witnesses to talk about his background of the blow obvious there to a quarter capital of a capital punishment settled some sort of debt service but the lawyers her noone noone can how they pretty much just followed the rest of the the uh the crowd yell lip thrown torches and pretty works assisted lift a wrongful conviction over scared by doing now nothing literally nothing wall while this kids in custody are there any other copycat crimes that took place that you know he gash look in if we've got this killer imprisoned how did this crime happen right well you know it would have been portugal character was not uh another murder rape mutilation they stop and go might very well have been because they had the right bursting custody that i realised circuiting close when they ran up to cuban says it worked out in this case i think that the the actual murder who was in their hands and escaped walk away and uh oh probably got to get a little bit nervous who left terrible i ever um but they stop all rights sale we're up against the break when we come back we'll continue mold up phone lines if you have questions for our.
"copycat crimes" Discussed on WGIR-AM
"Armor that that the defense is able to put against the prosecution nothing again if you know that's the aggressiveness of the trial were any case in america you know depends on the outcome and work dictates beyond karem aaron boots the courtappointed lawyer that was hired had absolutely no experience train murder cases number one number two although it was available never ask for courtappointed investigator hopefully on earth their summit culpa tori evidence and more importantly never hired any expert for uh for witnesses to assist twitter either for guilt or innocence or punishment in texas you have to face to the trials guilt or innocence amid if you if they're found guilty your girl punishment phase of the trial and even back there and in capital murder cases they'll even courtappointed lawyers who were afforded of states experiment whatever experts they warranted whether their minimum you higher uh uh expert witnesses to talk about this background the of the blow punishment to avoid or capital of a capital punishment settled some sort of depth surplus but the lawyers her noone noone can how they pretty much just followed the rest of the the show the crowd yell lift the room torches aaron pretty much assisted lift a wrongful conviction over cured by doing nothing literally nothing wall while this kids in custody are there any other copycat crimes that took place that's you know he gas look if we've got this killer imprisoned how did this crime happen right well you know it would have been forge your character was not uh another murder rate mutilation they stop and go might very well have been because they have the right person in custody in that i realised circuiting close when they ran up to cuba's says it worked out in this case update that the the actual murder who was in their hands and escaped luckily and uh probably got to get a little bit nervous who left to wanna ever um but they stop all right we're up against the break when we come back we'll continue mold up phone lines if you have questions for our guest a little later on in the.