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Warriors: Mary McLeod Bethune

Encyclopedia Womannica

08:22 min | 1 year ago

Warriors: Mary McLeod Bethune

"Hello from Wonder Media Network. I'm Jenny Kaplan and this is encyclopedia. Manica today's warrior was a pioneering Haya nearing American educator an education activist civil rights activist stateswoman philanthropist writer and humanitarian known as the first lady if the struggle she spent her entire life battling better the lives of African Americans. Let's talk about Mary. McLeod within Mary was born on July tenth eighteen. Seventy five in Maysville South Carolina. She was one of the youngest of Samuel and Patsy. PATSY mccloud seventeen children. Mary's parents were former slaves. Who worked and save to buy their own plot of land from patsies former owners? After emancipation Russian then began growing their own. Cotton for Mitch Five. Mary worked in the fields at her family's farm. I H nine. It said that Mary could pick an astonishing two hundred and fifty pounds of cotton a day. Though Mary was born into a large family she was the only child to attend school. She walked five miles to and from the local school and when she returned home she would teach the rest her family. What she learned that day? Mary found a lifelong mentor in her teacher. Emma Jayne Wilson who recognized Mary's talents and encouraged her to further her education. Wilson helped Mary get a scholarship to her. Alma Mater. Scotia cemetery which Mary graduated from in Eighteen Ninety Four. The next year Mary moved to Chicago to attend White Moody's Institute for Home and foreign missions now called the Moody Bible Institute. Her goal was to become a missionary Canarian Africa but Mary found that no church would sponsor her mission and was told that black missionaries to Africa weren't needed. If she couldn't do missionary work. Mary decided she would become a teacher instead. After graduation Mary Moved Back Down to South Carolina where she began her her teaching courier not long after she met fellow teacher Alberta's buffoon and the two were married eighteen ninety nine. Mary gave birth to a son on the buffoons. Then decided to leave South Carolina for polack Florida at first. Mary's days consisted of selling insurance and and putting in long volunteer hours at her local Presbyterian church but when her marriage failed in nineteen o four. Mary was determined to find a better way. Eight to support her young son and a more meaningful way to devote herself to her community. She decided to open up a boarding school for African American in Girls Mary. School maintain extremely high educational standards of which Mary was quite proud. Proving to prejudice doubters that African Americans were just as intelligent and able to attain as high a level of education as their white counterparts. Mary school eventually. Louis became a college and Mary served as its president from nineteen twenty three to nineteen forty two. This made her one of only a few women in the world at the time to to hold such a position in nineteen twenty nine. Mary's College merged with the all male Cookman Institute to form the Co.. Ed Buffoon Cookman College College. The new college began issuing degrees in nineteen forty three and served as a pioneer and setting. Very High Educational Standards Hurts for other black colleges and educational institutions. The college is still thriving today. As the Thune Cookman University this is rotten baton INEX- and hall I'm you showing INEX- side the pollinated. Mary was a lifelong advocate for racial and gender equality. She was heavily involved in local and national political movements and organizations throughout her life after starting. A number of local women's clubs loves and heading voter registration drives after women received the vote in nineteen twenty. Mary was elected president of the National Association of Colored Women's Clubs in Nineteen nineteen twenty four in nineteen thirty five. She was named the first president of the National Council of Negro Women. Mary was also involved in the exodus of black voters from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party in the aftermath of the Great Depression. Mary was a personal friend of Eleanor Roosevelt's and she was invited to take part in President. Franklin Roosevelt Administration this included a position. Shen as a leader of FDR's unofficial very famous black cabinet there. She advised him on the concerns and issues prevalent within her community in nineteen thirty six. FDR chose Mary to serve. As Director of Negro Affairs of the National Youth Administration making in her the highest ranking black woman the American government at the time she remained in that position until nineteen forty four in nineteen thirty seven said. Mary organized an important conference to specifically address and fight back against the discrimination and the continued lynchings terrorized black communities just three years later she was elected vice president of the N. Double ACP. She held that position for the rest of her life. In nineteen forty five. Mary was appointed by President Truman to take part in the founding conference of the United Nations she was was the only woman of color in attendance when not running a college doing important work for the government or working for organizations to advance the rights and create the space for her community. Mary regularly wrote for two of the leading African American newspapers of the day. The Chicago defender and the Pittsburgh Courier. She also co founded a life insurance company based in Tampa and Co owned a Florida beach resort. Suffice it to say Mary Probably. We didn't have much free time. Mary died in one thousand nine hundred fifty five. She was eighty years old in his obituary. That you airy columnist Lewis Martin wrote. She gave out faith and hope as if they were pills. And she some sort of doctor in nineteen seventy seventy four. Mary's life and achievements were honoured with a memorial statue in Washington. DC and in one thousand nine hundred five with memorial stamp per last home is a the national historic site this week of encyclopaedia will manica is brought to you by athletic. Greens no matter what it is. You're fighting for it's essential for all kinds of warriors to be nutritionally ready for action. That's why I'm a big fan of athletic grease this. I don't want to have to take a million different things to get the nutritional balance. I need the athletic. Greens ultimate daily. All in one health drink has seventy seventy five vitamins minerals and whole food source ingredients making it easier to get comprehensive nutrition without the need for multiple pills powders or PO ships athletic Greens also includes prebiotics probiotics digestive enzymes adapted INS superfoods and more. 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Bonus Episode: The Friend Zone Live at the Florida Blue Florida Classic

The Friend Zone

25:44 min | 2 years ago

Bonus Episode: The Friend Zone Live at the Florida Blue Florida Classic

"Apron. This is the friends. All right, guys. We have a special episode of our B C union breaks tour. Thank you so much to everybody at the union partnership with McDonald's. So much fun. So dope such great energy. And we thought it would be the perfect bonus to let you guys in on that. So enjoy this. Listen to this dope conversation that we know you guys are gonna love again shuttle to McDonald's, and they're ABC union. Hope you guys enjoy. Orlando. Mcdonald's. Our sponsor for today. Thank you so much for joining us. Florida blue classic feeling today. What's going on? I heard we are we hear a game or something like that. The game happening. Some teams playing fam-. You is out here. Right. Oh, okay. I didn't see the orange in green. I know what that means. And I definitely see that burgundy and gold, but don't cookman Wildcats in the building, right? That's what we like to see you guys. This is my third one now because this is the third stop of a spec-. I'm finally getting warmed up. Yes. Right. Taking the why did this is news for me the tailgates HEC game? Thank you somehow still knew how to dress like a pro, right? You know, being some New York down south. So we have beautiful people. Joining us on stays today. We'd love for you to introduce yourselves before we get started. Everyone knows who you are tell us what school you represent and whatever else you feel caught to shame. I'm an I'm Morrison and I represent Florida agricultural and mechanical toll. Eighteen eighty seven. And I major and pharmacy. Hello everyone. My name is Takhar Brown. I am a senior at the grates but cookman university. My major is mass communications with the broadcast journalism. And I am a proud. Proud proud member of delta sigma Theta sorority Inc. Lorcy yard be calling Nacho schools like your show, and when y'all start doing sororities and things get real. That's right, especially since we got mass comm up here. You just want to tell everybody business. That's right. And you Hello everyone. My name is Lindsay Johnson. And I go by Lindsey, and I am a proud Florida. Am university graduate of the school of journalism and graphic communication the best school, and I live in Miami right now I've worked in public relations for the last six years, but I recently just decided to venture out on my own. And I started my own consulting firm. So Lindsay Johnson PR. You know, you need social media PR branding. I can help you out. And I am also a very proud member of alpha Kappa alpha sorority incorporated, the original beta alpha chapter at fam- you. So I'm excited to be here. And thank you guys are tour managers proud, aka. So I had to look at her during the moment, I knew she was happy to hear that. And you know what? No. Hey. Good evening. I'm Cynthia walking blame and I represent the great but cookman university. Located in Daytona Beach with the world, whether we're almost was beach with the bad fan in the land the front, and they'll sigma Theta sorority. That's how you doing introduction where you just turn it out. I can already tell we would Iran together. We. She's evening, okay. To set the tone. So let's kick things off you know, what with us shooting. Brought it all the way up. Let's start with you. Why did you choose to attend in Hugh? I chose the ten, and they spec- you because I thought that was the choice when me not that. I wasn't aware of the PW is. But I knew the thune cookman was the great as university out there. And I wanted to be a part of that's that was no question where I was going to end right because you have family members that were already attending. I was the first one and for the rest of the family, and I started the tradition. How about you? What made you want to? So this is so funny. You guys may think that okay? This is really this is not smart. So fam- you with actually the only school that I applied to that. How motivated that? I was to go to fan you, and it was because you know, in my church my family. There was somebody Rattlers and they were proud, and I was like what is this? What is this about? And I'm also from Orlando. So I grew up as a baby coming through the classic. And you know. My God counselor the leaders around me, they were all proud Rattlers. And I want it to be a part of that. And I wanted that experience. And that's what I got. So you were coming to the classic before you attended. And you may come after you. Yeah. Becoming I don't really miss a homecoming. I don't really miss the classic been coming from Lindsey lower case E Lindsey capital. And on this side of here. I would say for me when I was three years old church used to come. To Daytona all the time for church functions and everything like that. And it was like the only school that I ever saw. And it was the only school I ever wanted to go to. So when I got accepted, it was Dru. I'm sure for me. And that's why. Well, I attended. Well, I visited PWI's. Visit you. US of and I was like on tour, but I never really fell. At a tour March two thousand seventeen and I went to agriculture mechanical university. And I just felt at home I feel loved and I knew guys didn't you where you're supposed to be and he sent me to act put your Campbell university, and I felt in my heart. So that's why I love that. All right. So you decided to ten nays VCU you I'm super curious about your first year. There was it. What you expected or did? It was it beyond my first year was exceptional. It was everything that I expected, and I think we made it everything we wanted it to be. So yes, what was it like it was like just having? It was like twenty four hour fun as somebody else's expense. That's the best way describing that's what I'm talking about. No, Cynthia you also said that you were the first in your family to attend but soon. Correct. So then with the thanksgiving holiday approaching will you be opening the dinner by saying hail? Wildcats the way that you did. I'm always saying why cast also service the president of the alumni association, Orange County chapter. So I believe the maroon and gold and is always Heo wacky. That's a twenty four hour. That's right connected. The dots this, right? And what about your first year? But was it like, oh my gosh. I mean, I still have memories for my first year. So I think any school or HEC you come like a week before school you have freshmen week. And so you just get acclimated to the campus. All the Greeks are just anybody a suit at organizations greets you they help you move in. And you know, there's some Hardee's, but there's some orientations they really set you up or what to expect? But I mean, I just have some of my friends that I met on the set. You know, like who are you? Where are you from like, okay? Let's be friends like let's go to the calf. So my I would say my first year was full of exploration. You know, I met so many people, and you know, I can go on and on about it. But people like to say Hughes or not diverse, but I met people from DC from Virginia from Jacksonville from Miami. And I'm from Orlando. So I'm not necessarily run all those different types of people. So I would say it's will of exploration I joined my personal organization that year, and it's just full of fun and great memories. Yeah. Which org the joy that year? So I joined a lot of different things. But that year, I joined modeling true images modeling true. And so that would just let me express, myself creativity. We will make our own clothes. We create these concepts for show is a big thing on campus to be a part of the Mali true. And so that was my first bite of community and so ever since then what was your first year? Like, I would definitely have to say first year was it was fun. It was fun. But I was very shy person. So I barely even went out of my room for the first three months to like that much. So I was very shy. But thanks to my roommate. She's still one of my very best for his Till's still to this day. She got me out of my comfort zone. She got me out of my bubble, and I joined my first or as well my freshman year. And that just started off my college experience, my first year was it was inviting out say that because it was challenging, but it was also fun in the sense that urine you meet new people, and you're not gonna be friends with the same people that you work before you went to college. I also met new people I learned things about people and the things about myself, I joined my first or campus girls, and you know. Natural hair. And but that was the freshman year was mostly inviting. So that was the main part of it, but I have fun, but new things so tell us more. She's hold him back. She honed the good stuff. So it's funny that you mention how you found a sense of community during your first year on campus. What were some of the places that would bring you and your your quote unquote squad together on campus. Where would you guys hang out? You'd be surprised the CAF the CAF. You would just we sit in the CAF or hours, and talk and talk and talk and talk and joke around Mr. Kinney. If anybody knows him. He was cool. That's my own. We it would just give us food. It'd be able come on get you out this. We just talk for hours in the CAF and a set for the most part. I a lot of people. I was safe for me. It would be either the quad the Cav or blue stage if anybody knows. VCU? You know that we can got it blue sage that's like the biggest thing. So. Yeah. Yeah. Stage is it's honestly it's just like a stage, and it has blue seats, and it's right next to the school. That's so is it a hang out hang out. But Goldstone at the blue stay talking dancing talking damn form. Or we we've held a couple of things there. There was a walk like a sigma there my freshman year. So I was like that. What about you Lindsey? I know you're ready to follow. Hey, yes. So places to hang out. Definitely the cast. What's funny? So every Wednesday, we have what we used to have something called fried chicken win still there. Okay. Cool. So that was the hangouts by didn't have a rattler car wipe you and you found somebody swipe you in. So you get the cath on practice and Wednesday. So the calf also the sex it we're famous for our set and also let's see Kalman library. So we sometimes call it club Coleman. We study. That they're you know misinterpreted, but we would call it club Coleman because that would also be an area where we hang out in post up to. So so did you have to plan your outfit ahead of time for club Coleman? Okay. Listen. Yes. Yes. You fair. Mu is the ultimate fashion show. We come like this the class. I've been wearing heels classes eighteen so yes, we plan our outfits out because we're trying to impress ourselves and our friends. So yes, our love it. And as you can see this sense of pride is still going strong, MS Cynthia has on a beautiful schools and her teacher today. So the style transcends all right now, we're getting into the nitty gritty, right? So I want to know what the students that are currently what we're gonna say shit. Are you currently involved in campus, curls and national society scholars some in those right now, but I plan on joining more just to get more community service. I wanna branch out and do something different more with medical on black women in medicine as well. Sorry about that. That just came on campus. Can you also run quickly through with campus? Curls. That is a natural hair organization is for minutes. Well is basically and lightning and do what community service around natural hair? We do also other things like saying the ju- wa with hospital like that. But if clubs uplift. Girls at like about natural hair. To not get stuck about stigmas within and everything like that actually board member of of campus. Curls. What about you current organizations actually hurriedly of heart of organizations? I am part of NEC's cities board. I've been part of the student activities board now for this is my fourth year going into I'm also a part of systems Inc. The says, no, okay. Inc. I was a charter member for phenomenal women in higher education. Think-tank? Also, of course, a part of the lovely. Dell's alpha chapter of delta sigma Theta sorority incorporated run. Oh, you know, what before we leave the stage? I heard the wildcat saw also needs to know what the fam- you song is like what's the? Okay. Never mind. I'm a move right on long. Then. They don't have one. Hey, wildcat in the front. They don't have one. I'm not gonna say any common. Let let let path on my my sister here about the bad. It's ban in the land. I'm live. I'm a letter live area. We're gonna hear that today. People feel about tickets band. So you party live you're part of images. So now, you gotta you gotta rip the image. Now when you get your own theory, not just want to speak on that. We just went this that hot five that we just took watch take places really what it's all about. Right. It's about ABC unity, and we all know that this very very important to McDonald's who was title sponsor for the Florida blue classic. And we give it up for McDonalds. One time. To mcdonald's. I watched to get up, and you knew that it was time to go. Hi five. Okay. Tell us more about the HVAC you unity that you have as being a member or excuse me as being an all moderate. I think that going to a spec- you I think with the nurturing that you get from entering their. We all HP see us we support one enough. And that's it. If that we didn't we wouldn't be able to sit at the Florida classic. So it's all about the bondage about the nurturing promoting the next generation. And it's about making sure that we do part any courage it in or moving forward and education and unveil this, right? It's also about time that we swing things over to Yanna. I do know that you're actually the recipient of the ten thousand dollars award for the Thurgood Marshall college fund offering for the HVAC you forward scholarship, correct? Yeah. So talk to us about this award. And how you were able to use it in assistance in paying for your education. I'm very grateful for this award guy comes through because you know. But for this. The war is hoping paying off pharmacy school, and it's pushing meets award going into my professional program to get into my brush program. And sometimes it's hard to want to go on when you're like when you see balance, and you're off can't register for classes, if I don't get down or I can't do this. If I don't get this down. Don't quit keep praying. There's always a way don't ever give up on your dream. And I thank you for this other shit because I. The chain somebody in there. How did you hear about the McDonald's should've age for scholarship? I'm a first generation student to go to college when they opened in this spring. I applied for this ship. And I was just like, you know, what I saw this ship. I was like talk about what HEC means to you and community, and I just wrote about Faneuil, and I got it. And that's how I saw. And that's how I work. Let's take advantage of the fact that we have current students and alumni on stays together. So my question would be what could alumni due to be more helpful and your path while you're still in college right now. Well, donating money people realize you have to get back to where you went to school so to help out future generations. And that's what I plan to do when I graduate. But you have to help out you have to educate you have the you can go around elementary schools two middle school high school was telling them much ACC use hometown's about your HVAC us sell them. How what you're experiencing what closure, and that's what I'm what I'm going to do when I get when I graduate. So I think that's important. You have to engrave it in that. Yes. It's good to go to a PWI. But it's also it's also just as great to go to H B, C you. So that's want. You say to tell you these things what format you mean? They should be more events or mixers or an Email network. Yeah. Probably more events more morbid, and it's also a high school as well. So I think teachers as well needs to guidance counselors eats show that you know, you can making HEC. Yeah. As a lump. What would you suggest for the active students was the best way for them to reach? You to stay connected to you think that alumni, I know for myself, and and our alumni chapter, we're very active. On the campus where they're active in the alumni, or one of the things that I was saying to the current students is that they have to engage can't be a one way two way communication. You can't wait for us to reach out to them. You have to reach out to us as well. And I know that we usually do and alumni day a service every year at university university opportunity to go with in classrooms in the work with the students. We look at resumes. We don't talk to them. We take them back, and we mean to them. So I think one of the things that's probably missing is that the students are not reaching out to the alumni alumni there, but the students need to reach out and gauge with the alumnis wail, and how can they reach out? What's the best way to reach out when they see the alumni the London like just today. Event. Several Lum Nuys we have to take the opportunities sometime to move forward. And to introduce ourselves you see someone everybody's being identified today where their school spirit, very easy to walk up to someone and say, hey, hey, hey, walk hit. Hey, I'm in student right now that you found that sometimes that particular London from the same city that you in or they meet the person over some of the scholarship opportunities. But if you don't open your mouth close. My don't get faded. You know? And it's just a that's the reality. Say I witness a lot of giving back around the people in my age a couple years ago. There was a strong young alumni movement to get younger alumni, you know, probably five years out of school more active, and I have several friends who have started throwing parties or created their own fundraiser events that are parties for us. But we give directly back to the university. And then also is customary when are Greeks are having their anniversaries, we always give a donation five thousand ten thousand dollars to the school and that's announced at our convocation during the homecoming season. So there are different opportunities. Where a lot of alumni are getting giving back. I think we can do more just like how Anaya today I think it's like what you're saying. Having a conversation and me at the big sister following up with her and just being you know, she may not really need anything for me. But maybe she does you know and just making those relationships, I think alumni can do a little bit more because we are the older person. And we can kind of grab grab them and make sure that they're ok or one thing. Also, I know that university we do have like relondo association, and that is an opportunity for students. Join that that is getting you ready to be full fledge alumni. So I think that by engaging in that that gets you in the process of what you're supposed to do when you get out of interlock creed is in an alert to park serve. I think that's aspect of it. You can start even before you graduate, wait a minute. 'cause if they hit one more Durham you talking about to get out of here. But before we go have one final question was the first thing you're going to do when you graduate. And what was the first thing you did after you graduate after you walked across this stage. What's the what's the first thing? You got plan. I know I was going Dougie across the stage. We're going on some honestly, I'm going to cry. I'm gonna cry as soon as as soon as I walk across that stage. The tears are going to just fall is. I'm going to be still and I'm getting out of here in may. So I'm just allow the glass out again. Congratulations. I'm blessed going to Italy. I'm going to she's something we're going to Italy. I'm doing Oprah point one over here. She's coming with me. And he's going to you're going to Italy. I'm going on. So. She taking you can you. Tell me. Or have a child. What's the first thing? You did. If you want to cross this age. So I did I did kinda stroll across the stage had, you know. You know show that. My parents were I was blessed enough. My parents are here. They gave me a party. And then I got on the grind to look for a job. And what's funny is I became a Brennan Basseterre or intern after college. So like five months I worked on the Florida classic after I graduated because they take one rattler and one wildcat from both holes actually join their team to actually market and promote the classic. And I was blessed enough to have that opportunity. So I'm like, you know, I love classic. I love him you. So that's what I spend my time doing right after graduation. That's amazing. I don't think I can't remember that. I did anything special. I knew that I was going to graduate school right out of a little cookman. So I graduated eight at raleigh's September. I don't know that it anything spectacular when I graduated to be. Thank you Lord. It'd be graduate. And I don't know. I don't even think that we went out to eat. Remember that we didn't think it was just an opportunity to graduate with so proud to be there. So when a lot of pomp and circumstances that they do now with all the graduation heart is and all that who want circumstances when I graduated just graduated will it looks like there was something did though MS Cynthia because you started a trend in your family. So you're graduating actually set an example, the head greater impact booking at the party. You get off to say so. Ladies. Thank you so much for your time. Mcdonald's. It's been amazing HPC union. I believe next. We're going to have to spun. Okay. DJ envy's going to be in the building momentarily. Right. A C of stand off to the stage. So folks, please joy roofing teams at the poem full is going to be a good time. I'm not picking sides. But you know, I wanna hear the wildcat song again later. And if you want to we can teach me some things to write I am curious who's here for the game and who's hit for the band here. Okay. They all look them. Again to McDonald's. Our sponsor for today. Everybody enjoy and have a great time with the Florida blue plastic. Thank you, John. All right. You guys. Listen to suck to students from fame you and Bethune cookman university. Thank you so much again to our partners at McDonald's in HPC union. It was amazing. We had a blast at the Florida blue classic. And we can't wait to see you guys next year and on funny as alumni funny as active suit in the most importantly, the people in the audience. Charming in like, they don't have it the song. Okay. Okay. Even joy to Atlanta. Thank you so much for showing us so much love. And thank you to Memphis. Thank you to Birmingham. Thank you to everyone who made this possible. We hope you enjoyed this bonus episode enjoy the rest of your week.

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Episode 7: The Good of Paying It Forward

Perpetual Good

24:19 min | 7 months ago

Episode 7: The Good of Paying It Forward

"The beginning of a school year can be a challenge for any student throwing the complexities of a pandemic and social unrest and the challenge raises to epic proportions. But if you are an eight year old student battling spina bifida confined to a wheelchair and being bullied for your condition. The challenges can be unheard of. This is the story of taylor. Thomas a young student in baltimore maryland. Who is learning to turn tragedy into triumph. One nail color. At a time taylor's therapists in response to the bullying asked her what made her happy. And she said two things riding horses and painting nails. That the last one was the impetus for lola. Marie nail. Polish taylor's very owned business. What's more taylor is pain at ford for other children who were battling critical conditions by donating some of the nail polish to casey cares an organization whose whole aim is to help families with critically. Ill children with nail polish names like confidence. Born for greatness and boss. Baby taylor is giving not only herself. But these other girls in casey cares organization a sense of how great they are. When each day is a struggle a gift of beauty confidence in value can be just what is needed to brighten a person's day and taylor has found a way to do that with each brush. Stroke taylor. thomas is an inspiration for this kind of good that we need in our community in our country and our world. This is why we are here. It's the perpetual good podcast with your host can hopkins join us as we discover the good things that are happening all around us and what we can do to bring even more or can you box. Assorted chocolate was my head. Don't miss the concept. She'll get less open. Welcome to the perpetual good podcast. This is kenneth hopkins and today's episode is all about paying it forward today. We've got a couple of great stories for you. I was actually looking for a third story. But then i realized that one of the stories actually has three different components to it. So we're gonna talk about both of these stories about the benefits and the the inspiration that comes from those stories but before we get into that some of you have asked me how you can leave feedback or how you can comment. And i've got a couple of different ways for you. The first one is one that i have spoken of a couple of times previous podcasts. And that is to go to my website. Kenneth d hopkins dot net and click on the perpetual good podcast link down at the bottom. There will be a button or link for the show notes. When you click into that you can get into any of the particular episodes and down at the bottom underneath all of the credits and all of the information about the show. You will find a place where you can leave whatever feedback that you need. I would love for you to be able to do that. That actually helps me in In how i'm presenting this information and the type of information that you want to be able to hear the second way is to go to anchor dot fm slash kennedy hopkins. When you go to anchor there is a place where you can leave a voice message and i would love to be able to hear your comments that way as well so whether you decide to do it on my website whether you decide to go to anchor or you can also leave comments on social media whether it's on facebook at the perpetual good podcast page or on instagram on. The perpetual podcast. Page there you can leave feedback there as well i. I'd love to be able to get all of that and again. Share this with your friends your family people that you are just meeting anybody who needs a good word so now. Let's get into the stories Over the last year or so. I've seen a number stories on social media where there's a group of students friends kids getting together. And they're celebrating the achievement of one of their one of their friends or their family. It could be somebody getting into a prestigious university or finding out that the been drafted into the nfl or nba. And you hear the announcement and then everybody goes crazy. But recently i saw one. That was a little bit different. It was the same type of celebration and it had the same type of initial meaning. This one was the crowning of the myths bethune cookman university for the twenty twenty twenty twenty one school year. It was for julia. Durham and oliver friends and And classmates they were all excited that she got elected as i looked into it a little bit more. It actually fit with what we were talking about this week. And i want to talk a little bit about that. So in the story it was more than just being elected as the miss or the queen for this so i looked a little bit more in the university and found out that she was elected along with the mr or the king and that was a jv on jones. Now what they had to do for this and this is part of their tradition is. It's not just about being elected king or queen or miss or mr actually not about themselves at all. It's actually about pain forward for everybody else. So they had to run on a platform that talked about the things that they were going to do for the campus for the community and what type of platforms they were gonna do for other people. Javale on is focused on mental health facilities and services for the students as well as those who are trying to speak out against injustices. He wants to make sure that whether it's students or faculty that they actually have a method and a means to be able to have their voice to be hurt. Jeliah is looking at a number of different programs and trying to expand the number of programs that are on the campus and as a student herself. She's looking forward to those who are about to graduate and trying to find means to help them to secure employment upon graduation so you can see. This is not even about themselves at all. This is totally about other people. So i found that very just not only thought provoking. I thought it was very inspiring and the fact that this for this university is not unique. This is how they do it. The miss bethune cookman university started out as a girls school. And so this has been going on for over sixty years. I think. Sixty seven years and when they became girls and boys they integrated the men into this program. And so that's been going on for a couple of decades as well and so part of their tradition. What they are doing for the community. What you're doing for their students is they are teaching them the value of paying it forward and so i just wanna thank but then cookman university i wanna thank julia. Durham and javy on jones for their platform and for their mindset and for their thoughts on what the students need what the community needs and for setting up for other people who are coming up under them and they can be used as an example for the types of things that need to be done for the community Our next story takes us across the country to hollywood california. And it's a story in three parts before we get into the story. This year we lost an icon. Chadwick boseman the star of black panther. The fourth fastest film to gross over seven hundred million dollars died this year from cancer as amazing though when a different spotlight is given to someone. You find out a lot about that person that you wouldn't actually know. And that's what the story is about so chadwick in twenty nineteen was starring in the film. Twenty one bridges. And he was starring alongside sienna miller he was also one of the producers of the film and as one of the producers. He had some say in who was going to be in the film. He had seen sienna miller's work and so he he wanted her for the role of the detective so and sienna was was looking at the role and she talked to the studio about what she was looking for for salary. They came back and said sorry. We can't do it but chadwick he wasn't having any of that. He said that she is worth what she is asking for. So rather than he could've taken any number of routes to try to rectify this. He could have fought the studio he could have said. Hey i'm the producer. But instead he decided to pay it forward from his own pocket he took a pay cut and took that money and had it given to her so that she could be given what. She was What she was asking for and what she deserved and that totally shocked her. Not only did it shock her but it shocked everyone who has heard it and even when she started telling other acting colleagues about it other male acting colleagues about it. They weren't able even comment about that type of generosity. It's absolutely unheard of especially in an industry where people are focused on themselves to have somebody take their salary and reduce it so that somebody else can Can get what they're supposed to be getting now this type of generosity and this is part two of the story. This type of generosity is not new to chadwick boseman if you go to the beginning of his career. He was a a student at howard university and he was one of a number of students who was working with none other than felicia rashad and in this group of students. They were given the opportunity to attend a summer program at oxford university. Now that's quite an opportunity. Felicia rashad having the connections that she did. She went to none other than denzel washington and asked if he would be willing to contribute to some of these students being able to attend and not only. Did he do this and he was trying to do this privately but he ended up doing this for all students. He paid for all of the students chadwick when he was speaking at the lifetime. Achievement award for denzel washington. He mentioned saying imagine opening up the ladder and finding out that your tuition is paid. But it's paid by the dope wars actor in hollywood. Imagine the impact that that had on him on the things it he was doing and the things that That he was looking forward to so he was just one of the nine that happened to that happened to benefit from someone deciding to pay it forward for them. The third part of the story and this goes back. Even further into washington was a young man and by his own admission. He had a couple of options that were at his disposal. He said he could have been. He could have been a young man in jail or he could have been a young man who ended up pursuing some of his dreams and the reason why he never ended up in jail was because of the local boys and girls club in his hometown. And even more than that. The reason why he even ended up in hollywood was because one of the counselors at the boys and girls club decided to pay it forward for him and give him some very wise and sage advice regarding some of the things that he was dealing with. So we find that someone. Investing in a young boy caused that young boy when he grew up to invest in another young man who when he had the opportunity caused him to invest and to someone else. And you'll find that it's it's not just a one person to one person but each of these people have invested into many people so you start with. It's almost like ripples in pond you start with just one pebble and it just starts over and over and over again when we think about pain forward a lot of times what we hear and what we see. Is you pay for the the coffee of the person next to you or you do something for for justice one person and that makes you feel that makes you feel good. It's it's it's a nice thing to do but you'll have no idea of the depth of affect that pain forward has and how many people can actually be affected by your one act of kindness. That's why do win. Good is so important. In that went instance where you think you know what it really doesn't matter. My voice doesn't matter my vote matter. My one thing that i can do doesn't matter. All of the statistics say different by taking that one step. You can actually turn the tide in someone's life in a community's life even in the nation's life so as we're talking about paying it forward look for opportunities that you can step into. Somebody's doesn't even have to be somebody that you know doesn't have to be somebody that you think. Need your whatever it is that you have. It could be something as simple as buying coffee or pain for For somebody's fair or writing a letter to somebody or whatever it is but when you pay that forward then that person in receiving that that can start a channel a tied in their life that can affect somebody else Wanna in this episode with a couple of thoughts about paying it forward as well as a couple of requests. My thoughts on pain forward. I is that when you see people paying it forward. Oftentimes you really don't see it. Most of the time paying it forward really paying forward happens at the background. We saw that with denzel washington with a gift that he gave. He wanted to make that private eventually. Did come out and a lot of times. It's good that it comes out but a lot of times it's done not to focus on the person who is giving but really to focus on the person who's going to be receiving and sometimes the person who was giving doesn't even know that person but it's just the thought that there is somebody out there who may need a pick me up then may need that cup of coffee. They may need a good word. They may need a letter written to them. They may need a bag of groceries. Dropped off after. It is and the thought that i may not get recognized for this action. But i don't care is what makes paying it. Forward all the more special paint it forward also causes a ripple effect when you pay it forward to someone in someone finds out that somebody has done something for them a of times. It stirs something in them in. Its spires something in them. That says wow somebody did something for me. Totally unexpected and they may not even know me. Maybe i should do that for somebody else. And that's what paying forward really is all about is as i do something for somebody else completely selfless act. It's not about me getting recognition. But it's about providing an opportunity for someone and then they may take that and provide that opportunity for somebody else. Bring me right back around to the story that we started with this little girl taylor thomas. Now i haven't received anything from her. And i haven't painted my nails at all in life so i'm not gonna be buying nail polish for myself but i actually did receive something from her and from her story and that was inspiration. I saw someone who took a hard situation a tragedy in her own life and turned it into try not only for herself but for a lot of other people and that inspired me. It spoke to everything that we're doing here at perpetual good and so not only did it inspire me but it inspired holly and we talked about it and and we just felt that we couldn't just let this just be a story that we had to be a part of this. So i contacted. Taylor's mom and i wanted to find out how to how to contribute. Because what she's doing is not just is not just the business but again. She's providing things for the kids that are being just affected by issues in their life critical physical issues in their life and so she's providing ways to make kids feel better through. Casey cares so i contacted a mother and wanted to find a hat contribute and she told me how to do that. We're going to have that information in the show notes turned out that she was preparing a set of items to be able to give this week to holly. And i were able to contribute. We found out that they were able to give so much more because of what we contributed. And it's not we didn't give millions of dollars or anything we just gave it. We had but the fact that these kids are going to have something that is going to lift their spirits. That is going to help the families. That's what it's all about so here. are my request. Have two of them. The first is. I want to invite you to join with holly. And i in contributing to taylor thomas to her goals for her business as well as to the activity that she's doing with casey cares he go to the website kennedy dot net and go to the show notes. You will find the information that you need in order to donate. There will be linked there so that you can do that. None of that money is coming through us going directly to them so when you donate is going to go directly to. You're actually going to be taken to their site so that you can. You can do that. I'm requesting inviting you to pay it forward to some other kids who you may never know. That's the first requests. The second request is i read a number of different articles and saw a few different things as relates to taylor story and one of the things that she said is she was hoping to raise enough money through her business to get a wheelchair accessible van. Something that our family doesn't have right now and it would be great if we could you know. Get her a little bit closer to that. So as you are looking at the possibility of contributing of being a part of what's going on of pain that forward think about how wonderful it would be for taylor who was confined to a wheelchair to have a vehicle that her mom can drive around that will accommodate her in in her wheelchair. That would be absolutely awesome. And whether we're able to help with everything whether we're able to just get her a little bit closer than that's also get sick so again. It's all about pain at forward. Don't think about what this is going to get to you. But the one of the things. I can tell you is that when you do pay it forward there is a sense of fulfillment that that comes from that. Not that you're getting recognized but that you know that somebody else is. Being blessed is feeling happy is feeling valued because of the gift that you're giving just some final notes as we conclude this episode. You've probably noticed some different transition music. I wanna thank elijah ray. I was going through instagram. And i heard one of the beats that he had created. And i thought. Wow that sounds really nice Elijah starting to create the beats. And i thought yeah i can. I can actually use that. So i contacted him alleged. I go way back. And he said absolutely go ahead and use it so i wanted to include that in this episode so again elijah. Thank you so much for the use of your music inness. And also we've got a couple other countries that have started listening so we've got listeners. In singapore and russia is well so welcome to the people around the world who are not only listening to perpetual good but are actually doing good within your communities so stay tuned for the episodes. That are coming up. There's a lot of good stuff happening. Thank you again. And we'll talk to you next time on the perpetual good podcasts. Been listening to the perpetual good podcast with your host. Kenneth hopkins special thanks to blood john for the theme music tune in next time for more stories of the good happening in our community. Have a great day and remember. Don't let evil overwhelm you but overcome evil with good.

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Democrats want a progressive in the White House. They also want someone who is going to get things done.

POLITICO's Nerdcast

26:26 min | 2 years ago

Democrats want a progressive in the White House. They also want someone who is going to get things done.

"Hello listeners this politicos nerd cast. I'm your host Scott bland. Coming up this week. Joe Biden has been tatting a new plan on the trail that pundits have absolutely trashed but voters might actually love it. We'll talk about the what and the why in just a few moments. Plus, I'm gonna sit down with some politicos healthcare reporters to talk about the major antiabortion bills that are passing through state legislatures all around the country. Right now, we're gonna talk about where those are heading through the court system as well, just a heads up. We're taping this a little bit before noon eastern on Thursday may sixteenth. So it's all up to date as of then. All right. Let's get started. Wanna welcome our guests. I Marc Caputo national political reporter for politico base down in sunny, Florida. Hi, mark. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. And as usual here in the studio senior politics editor, Charlie Motassium, Esquire. Hello, charlie. Scott, welcome. All right. Onto our first data point, seventy seven percent. That is the percentage of Democrats who said in a new CNN poll that they consider this an important factor. And picking a twenty twenty presidential nominee. And here's here's what they read to folks is willing to work with Republicans to get things done. Now, let's, let's let that sink in for a second. While we turn to former vice president Joe Biden, who's been on the trail for his twenty twenty presidential campaign. And he's been facing some criticism from the left about his record and his vision of how to make government work. And here's what he said, on the trail earlier this week gotten a lot of attention. The thing that will fundamentally change things is with Donald Trump out of the White House, not a joke. You will see in a pigmy occur among many of my Republican friends Biden said and it's already beginning in the house. Now you've seen people that, in fact, were not willing to over any democratic initiative, even if they agreed with it. You're seeing that the talk even the dialogue is changing around that. And Mark, I like to come in here, and what, what was the reaction of the, you know, the, the pundit class, professional left, you know, the democratic activists other campaigns whatever to, to the statement by by, and it was pretty universal. Well, it's pretty universal condemnation, kind of sneering intellectualism that, oh, how dare he tried to pawn off? And I guess that's one of the problems that you'll see on both the right and the left at the extremes where they really resist anyone who's preaching from this gospel centrism and admittedly, the idea that there is going to be some new era or return to, you know, tip O'Neill Reagan era comedy in Washington might just be comedy. But at the same time Americans, like they're miss, and they also like to hear at least in the Democratic Party someone preaching, the idea of we're going to get things done. And we're going to work together, one of Biden, central pitches, and one of the. Fundamental assumptions of his candidacy is that the Democratic Party is not as left as you see on Twitter and on Facebook. And in fact, it's composed of a lot of middle of the road people and polls like this and results, such as this lend credence to that idea also other polls other surveys, and other interviews with people when credence to this, because Biden is the front runner, and he has not backed away from this concept of from this talking point that we're gonna work together. We're going to be able to get Republicans to our, our side. We're going to be bipartisan, the reality is, that's a common general election message. He just happened to be saying during a primary, that's in Parchin example of the way Biden has successfully run as a general election candidate in this primary and kind of created two primaries the Biden running to elections, there's Biden running. And then there's the other primary people who are fighting more on the left. That's such a great point, Mark. I think the thing that's apprising about this poll though, is that it's, you know, a it seems like like like you said, it's like, yeah, this is. General election message, the pulse of Justice. A great primary message to which is just completely at odds with everything we've been told about the, the direction the of Lucien of the, of the democrat or everything we thought we'd been told it is until you realize that one of the fundamental motivating factors democrat is they want someone who's going to beat Donald Trump. They detest Donald Trump and a lot of Democrats really dislike Donald Trump because he's iconic classically kind of shattered traditional norms. And when you have a candidate saying, I'm gonna return you to an era of normalcy and here are the ways that's deeply attractive to a lot of people not deeply attractive to presumably folks, who are supporting Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, a lot of other democratic presidential candidates. Right. Charlie who, who were very frustrated by by what they saw, I think during the Obama years, which were also the years of Biden, vice presidency of a kind of. Never requested hope that Republicans were going to come to the table on major legislation on immigration, and any number of issues. True. I mean, I think the world so seeing the, the disparities between the activists slash political class of the Democratic Party, and maybe the broader democratic base or anyone who considers themself democrat. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. And what I mean by that is, this is true of the Republican side to Democrats have controlled the presidency for sixteen of the last what twenty seven years, yet, there is this victimhood mythology within that party and the same true of the Republican party, you know, even after eight years of George Bush Republicans were convinced that they were victims, and they had been, you know, run over roughshod, and they weren't getting anything they wanted and both parties sort of advanced this the party machinery advances. The idea that, you know, both parties have been screwed over and, you know, have been too conciliatory and so you've got this driving the activists in the political class. You've got the machinery advancing this message all the time. And I think you've got Twitter also advancing this all the time. And I think we're about to learn is, is this, just the opinion of the elites or or not? And what we see from the polling about about Biden's messages suggests that maybe people are okay with with some. Conciliation you know and, and that may be true. I mean, I think his his message has the idea of the Republic, an epiphany is kind of ludicrous. They haven't had Pippen, either not going to have an epiphany for some time now, but at the same time, I think there, there may be a larger element in the Democratic Party, then we know that does want to see some kind of return to normalcy, maybe not the normalcy that Biden envisions. I mean, I think Biden is, you know, in his mind is thinking of political world that doesn't exist anymore. You know, the idea that people could act in good faith, and reach across the aisle, that, that world doesn't exist, that was blown up to see, but I do think there are a lot of Democrats more than we know probably that would like to see at least a faint in that direction in, I think, Biden is going to try to tap into that. I think that there were two main thoughts that I had looking at well, what Biden said the other day in the context of this poll that we've been talking about. And now what? What I'm wondering is what, what happens next here is, you know, how how'd you some of the internal contradictions between this stance that we've been talking about, and some of the other stances that democratic voters have about what matters to them in a presidential candidate are going to are going to resolve themselves holds progressive positions? On the issues was another big one sixty six percent of, of Democrats, that was extremely or very important to them compared to seventy seven percent said is willing to work with Republicans to get things done. So you know what happens when those when those when someone raised the point that, that those us could potentially come in conflict, right? If you hold progressive positions. But if you want to compromise with Republicans, you could potentially betray those positions. I think that, that's maybe going to be a question that kind of comes up over the course of the debates, and it's gonna be fascinating to see how Biden's status this early front runner. Like you said, Mark stands up to that. Well, I think it's always important member that poll questions are while ask within the context of the broader poll are nevertheless, answers isolation's to the questions post. And there is you're saying rumor internal contradiction here. I yet and it might not even be that much of a contradiction. I think that there's probably a broad class of people that understand that Washington sucks that congress sucks that they don't really get anything accomplished. So while Democrats want a true progressive to go in there and be progressive. They also want someone to get something done, and just as a politician or political leaders are expected to compromise negotiate and make deal in the voters own minds. I imagine there's also that understanding that, that happens, and that they too can compromise on their beliefs. As long as something is being done toward a greater good. The important thing, and I think the successful thing for Biden so far has been this kind of cheery Optima. Awesome. And this come on folks. Let's get on with let's get along and there is a large class of voter certainly the Democratic Party that wants to see someone say, hey, what you're seeing here is not normal, it, we're better than this, and it's going to get better. And so far, that's been an effective thing for Charlie where do you see that going from from here? I mean, we've got a long primaries, we've got along pre-primary season ahead of us not to mention when the when the primaries actually started. I, I do think that there is something to be said for Biden's happy warrior style, even in this era of toxic city. I think they're still great appeal to it and it shown in the polls right now, now, I would say, I'm not a tireless convinced. He ends up as the nominee despite the polls and despite all how good he looks right now. I I don't I'm not sure that, you know, we still have to see a lot. We have to see how he does in the debates we have to see is you. Gonna have a senior moment that suddenly focuses everyone on that. We, we see now that the left is beginning to beginning to engage in a way to alert all progressives across the spectrum that, hey, we need to take on Joe Biden. You know, you're starting to see the beginnings of that movement, calling by now, having said all that let's remember like his numbers are fantastic. Right now. They, they haven't shrunk since he got in there. They're, they're expanding, you know, I'm not Norris numbers, but they're, they're very healthy numbers, like the Florida poll that Mark wrote about the other day by Norma sleet, in Florida, the Pennsylvania pull that came out yesterday. He has an enormously. What was most interesting about this Pennsylvania poll that came out and remember, Florida is the essential state for Donald Trump? There is no Trump second term without winning Florida and Pennsylvania is maybe not as important, but it's pretty close. One b it's that, you know, industrial rust belt stretch that he that Trump needs to replicate his twenty sixteen results in Pennsylvania, there was this fascinating number yesterday. Among Pennsylvania Democrats when asked who had the best chance of taking down, Donald Trump, sixty one percent, said Biden six percent said Bernie Sanders, sixty one to six that is really telling and so, for all those reasons, you know, I tend to think that. Biden's message. I wouldn't say message of centrism, I think his message may have a lot more residents than people originally thought including me. I didn't think that he'd be able to get past the crime Bill in the needle hill and all sorts of other things. Well, so there's still plenty of time for him to, to get tripped up on all that stuff as, as we as we well know but there's also the like they say an ultimate fighting there's a million ways to lose. I didn't know I didn't know they said that about alternate fighting, but I think of, of pugilists, you know, Mike Tyson said, everyone has a plan and then they get punched in the mouth, and so far, while by did have a rocky pre roll out regarding his hands Innis was some women and questions as Charlie had pointed out about crime Bill when meet a hill he really hasn't gotten hit yet. And one of the things from that news clip you read from that was from an event in New Hampshire, at that same event. He was asked Joe Biden was about criticisms from Alexandria Cossio, Cortez concerning his position on energy and the environment and his answer was kind of fainting and slow and halting, and kind of unsure almost look like he was reading notes. I don't know if he was because he was sitting at a table. But when you see stuff like that, you wonder, okay, how is this guy gonna look on the debate stage? How? Sharp is he gonna be? And if he looks like that you might start to see numbers drop like Charlie not completely sold these going to be the nominee. But it's undeniable that he's looking in great shape right now. I think that's a really fair point. I would you would you bet on him or the field, maybe the field, but would you bet on him versus anyone other candidate certainly at this point, like, that's where the that's where the numbers are, are showing right? I'm also interested in seeing him one on one against Elizabeth Warren. I think that's going to be matchup in part because, you know, it doesn't get talked about a lot, but his role in the bankruptcy reform Bill like their history, like no two other candidates, the role he played in advancing credit card industry interest as the Senator from Delaware, like he has not had that kind of Connecticut conflict yet. Nobody's taking him on like that, and nobody's better position to do it. I think than Elizabeth Warren. And Bernie might do it. But I think Elizabeth Warren would be more effective, some really curious. To see how that goes down. And we may see that at the end of June in the to be. Yeah. We'll have to see who gets drawn until which which night, right? There's going to be to debates over two nights anyway. Very, very curious to see what happened. That's such a great point, Charlie. I'm looking forward to seeing that Mark. Thank you for jumping on the line to, to join us. And thank you for your pugilists. Metaphors. Professional wrestling fan before anything else. I have no answer to that. The clown from the WWE. All right. Thanks, mark. All right. Thanks. Bye, and Charlie. Thank you for coming in as well. It's got thanks for having me. All right. Let's dive into our second segment, we are going to transition from talking about federal elections to some new state laws, and potentially some federal court action. I guess because of those new state laws are data pointed in ninety nine that is the number of years in Alabama. Doctor could spend in prison for performing abortion in the state under the new law that was past just this week, not taking effect for a little while potentially could get locked in, in court presumably for even longer. But we have to politico healthcare reporters here to talk us through what was passed now. Bama, and also the these spate of new antiabortion legislation that is coming up in, in state after state after state and in recent months. And so I we have ratchet per non I thank you so much for joining. Thanks for having me. And also in studio Alice maranda, Allston high AL's. All right. So this isn't the first antiabortion law. We've we've seen this year. Talk us through broad strokes. Kind of a, a quick summary. Where were. Where we're seeing this, and, and what, what is is in some of these different laws from state to state house. Yes. So every year, you see a lot of red states pushing anti-abortion bills, but there's been definite uptick, since the supreme court's makeup has changed and folks feel that with the two new justices appointed by Trump on the supreme court, some of these laws that wouldn't have stood a chance passing. Before now have a chance of being upheld. And so you're seeing states really aggressively passing a bunch of abortion, restrictions and some of the farthest, we've seen states going are these so-called, heartbeat bills, which prohibits abortions after heartbeat can be detected which is usually around six weeks. Most women don't even know they're pregnant at that stage. So this week, Alabama wind even further. They passed a Bill that would ban all abortions entirely regardless of winning in the pregnancy. They took place and they imposed the penalty on the abortion, doctor that you just mentioned Russia, what happens when a law like this is an acted usually the doesn't go in into effect right away. But then also there's, there's often very quickly court action that follows up with what we see in Louisiana and some other states. Right. So typically in Alabama situation in particular, just off the bat. The law doesn't take effect for six months until after the governor signed. It which she did earlier this week. But of course, we fully expect there's going to be a lawsuit very imminently, and it's almost definitely the case that a court will block this law before it even goes into effect. But the point I which the Bill, the bill's backers have already knowledge is really this is designed to provoke a challenge to Roe versus Wade, eventually making its way to the supreme court Alice talked about the spate of antiabortion laws that have been passing around the country. So six states have enacted six-week bands, which are basically essentially complete bans on abortion, also. That's when you've been abortion, when a fetal heartbeat can be detected. None of those laws are in effect. Right. They've already been blocked by courts. And you know so, so these things are really just designed to make their way through the court system to see if we can get a higher court ruling to annihilate Roe v. Wade or chip, wet or what have you? So we can I think we should probably get into. With the likelihood maybe that the supreme court might do that right away. People have differing theories as to how they might go about, you know, looking again at the legality of worship topic. Well, I know I know that there's a, there's a law that has been stayed and kind of held up in Louisiana for a long while. There's one in Indiana a bunch of other states that have been kind of sitting potentially waiting for supreme court review. And now I mean, what I've been thinking while watching all these new ones get passed in say, are we like barreling toward a mid twenty twenty supreme court decision on, on abortion, like in the middle of the presidential campaign, which seems like well it seems like a lot of different things. It seems like the ultimate kind of election curveball it seems like the ultimate disaster for spring, court institutionalists who doesn't want the court tied up in politics. There's a lot of stuff going on here. Absolutely. And I think people should remember that, while the supreme court could take up an abortion. Ks or revisit Roe versus Wade. Like you said in the heat of the twenty twenty election. It's not gonna be one of these bills that just passed this week, the bills that are at the supreme court's doorstep ready to be taken up we're past years and years ago. One of the main ones was signed by Mike Pence, when he was governor of Indiana. And that's the sitting before the supreme court. And so he, he signed that Bill in twenty sixteen. It's taken all this time for it to get up to the supreme court. The judiciary can be pretty slow, especially compared to how fast politics works these days, I guess the, the difference. Now at this point, as you alluded to at the beginning of the segment, though, is that you have Anthony Kennedy who was. I think he was the author of the opinion in Planned Parenthood for Casey, right? Which was kind of the one of the, the key. Affirmations also like modifying or ROY v Wade, he retired. He's been replaced by by Brookhaven. I was appointed by Trump. And so this, while some of these cases were kind of sitting and waiting there, the makeup of the court is different now than when some of those earlier, ones started, which, which I think, is, again, at in Alabama people outright saying, right? That, that, that, that's part of the point of this is to is to provoke, this, and try and get get to a place where where there's a big ruling shifting the president and maybe one day. I mean I could get there. I should you know, we just talk about six days have passed these fetal. Heartbeat laws. Louisiana is actually about to knock one of its own, and even though dot state has a democratic governor John Bel Edwards. He's up for reelection this year. He has his indicated he'll sign it so. Well, he came in very hard on, on being anti abortion. Yes, yes, he is from what I've been told. I mean he's he really is. He's a true believer. And in. In that. And so, you know, the supreme court, I think what's kind of interesting. Obviously, there was so much attention around injustice Cavanaugh for some issues, but also about his stance on abortion, but they haven't taken case yet, which I think maybe some people have been a little surprised by. They've had an opportunity. They've had to rejections right since he's been on the court and Indiana's just sitting there waiting in the wings, you know. And so who knows the why there might not be takes four justices right to to agree to take a case. And maybe they haven't gotten that critical mass yet. Court expert. But it seems like a lot of speculation surrounding cavenaugh, who's new and, and doesn't have much of a track record on this. And then, and then Roberts who has made a lot of statements public and private a lot of reporting around his concern about the role of the court and weather even on issues. He might agree on it would get too aggressive about overturning precedents. Definitely and people should remember that the court, does not need to completely overturn Roe versus Wade, too severely allow states to restrict abortion across the country also. So there's another important supreme court precedent at issue from a little bit later than Roe versus Wade, which upheld Rovers is weighed, but clarified that states can pass some abortion restrictions that they can't put an undue burden on women who are seeking an abortion now. What's an undue burden even currently under current law, you know, many low income women have to drive hundreds of miles in pay hundreds of dollars. And they have to. To submit to mandatory counseling, that they may not want, and they are forced to look at an ultrasound and then they have to wait forty-eight hours and then go back. And so the those are those are burdens but courts have interpreted that some are not undo. And so I think that is an area. The supreme court could really push on and allow more and more laws and restrictions to go through by arguing that under our interpretation. These are not undue burdens. That's interesting. I mean, it seems like a they're a bunch of different strategies, basically that are, that are out there and, and different activist groups different -servative groups are deciding which ones they like, which ones they think the best chance of success of, of getting to a successful court challenges at something a little more incremental like that, or is it something where they're really swinging for the fences, right? And I think if you talked to antiabortion groups in different states, they have different approaches and different views on that there's some groups that really take the long game. And so won't. Go out swinging like what you saw in Alabama. They'll do these Ingram model steps to slow the chip away at, you know, a woman's ability to access the procedure instead of swinging for the fences as you said, and I guess it depends what the goal is the gold might not be to successfully convince a court to uphold a particular law. The, the goal could be to rile up the base in turn out, religious voters. So I think that. Along with the split in and disagreements over strategy. There's a there some disagreements about what the goal is. We've spent most of the time talking about the, the Republican push for these laws and, and some of the preparations for court fight on that side of what's going on the on the democratic side on the left on some of the Planned Parenthood near Al advocacy groups like that. I, I mentioned, there's serious, consternation. Absolutely. And so lots of different groups are fighting all of these laws in the courts as soon as, as soon as they're enacted and, and are have been successful in blocking all of them, so far, none have been allowed to go into effect. I'm talking about the, the sixty bands in particular and on the federal level. There's been a big effort since Democrats took back the house this year to put forward, you know, sort of proactive efforts to. To expand abortion rights, and even though because the Senate is still in Republican hands. Those aren't likely to go anywhere. It's really putting out there that this is what the party stands for. We believe that women should be able to access this procedure, we're going to put that in, in these different laws. And I think you are also seeing on the state level blue states. Both blue and red states are already trying to game out. What if the supreme court strikes down Rover says and the blue states are some are trying to put laws into state law into their state constitutions that say, even if Roe versus Wade falls, the right to seek an abortion. We'll still be protected in our state law. All right. All right. Thank you so much for taking time out of tracking the story to, to come in and talk to us about it, Rochester. Thank you. Thank you, and Alice Nikki very much. And that's always a big thing you to you, our listeners for tuning in this week, our producers Mikhail Rodriguez. Dave Shaw is our executive producer are illustrator is Bill cookman, if you like the nerd cast. And if you're listening on apple podcasts, please do us a favor and leave a review. It helps new listeners find the show once again, thank you so much for tuning in. We'll talk to you again next week. Panoply.

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AT#722 - Travel to Turkmenistan

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AT#722 - Travel to Turkmenistan

"Bags back on the road. And read it's. Real. Fast Board. Camera Traveler Episode Seven hundred twenty two today the amateur traveler talks about sell jokes and Parkin's and Mongols. Wedding Palace Caravan Sarai is and a flaming crater as we go to Turkmenistan. Welcome to the immature traveler. I'm your host Chris. Christianson let's talk about Turkmenistan. I'd like to welcome back to the show Justin Barnes from Justin and crystal dot com, and just has come to talk to us about Turkmenistan Justin. Welcome back to the show. Thank you. Thanks for having me back and I say welcome back to the show Justin was on episode six, twenty, nine about the Big island of Hawaii. This is a very different destination. We're talking about today. What's your connection with Turkmenistan? We traveled there on a trip to or the stands. There's the five stands Turkmenistan Kazakhstan respect. Extended Kurdistan, and we went to four of them on a trip and Turkmenistan is certainly the most interesting of the bunch in terms of how foreign it was. The misers foreign every since the word will and I was very interested in doing the show because been one time since we've talked about Turkmenistan and because. Before covert hit, we had a amateur traveler trip plan to the stands not to all five to two. I think of them as I recall in two thousand and twenty one which has bumped to two thousand and twenty two, but still planning on taking a group to that region of the world. So should someone go to Turkmenistan all for one thing it has something that I am fairly certain no other country. In the world has which Zeke giant flaming pit in the middle of the desert that looks for one tencent purposes like a volcanic crater but is actually just burning natural gas and you can walk right up to the edge of it. It's about the ultimate across at about one hundred feet deep and that's something you're not gonna see any world's Laurel I think Azerbaijan has some similar geologic features of natural burning. Areas that have been burning for hundreds of years. Well, in addition to that, there's some very interesting Silk Road historical sites, and also some history even older than that going back to partying times in an earlier excellent and the Parthenon's being a contemporaries with an and rivals with the Romans. The recreation of the Persian state after the fall of Persia to Alexander the Great. Excellent will what should one do would enter and where are you going to take us on an itinerary here? So I would recommend or remain sites that can kind of seen in any. Any order. One is the capital Ashgabad, which is in the south central part of the country. nother one is the gas crater, which is more or less than the very center of the country. Kunia organic, which is the north central or the country. And finally merged, which is in the eastern part of the country in the horror which would go to those guys somewhat dictated in where you're coming from and where you're going to afterwards I think for the most are people who be traveling Turkmenistan. If you'RE GONNA, go that way you're not going to be going only to Turkmenistan, and so it's going to be part of a larger trip either balls, other stands and or. Now, we're you doing trip independently or as part of a tour or how did you arrange us? This was part of a tour. I. Think as a practical matter, it is very unlikely that somebody is going to get a visa to stand on their own is hard to get into Turkmenistan insulin less. You're going with a company that does a lot of tour packages there where they take care of getting visa process they donald is across all the ts I think for all intents and purposes it's it's almost impossible to get in unless you with without friends or family member living country. Will and one thing we should bring up just because people are gonNA look at the map and some people are going to say, no right away. Because of its neighbors. Because we just to the south of Turkmenistan Afghanistan in Iran Iran being very stable country right meal although not always one that my country the US is friendly with Afghanistan not necessarily. Being as stable but Turkenistan you've found to be fairly safe an interesting country to travel to. Yes and we went there from Iran and they were quite different but I felt safe in both places for different reasons. Under of the spectrum well in, we'll talk about more about Iran some other day. There's a couple, very fascinating episodes that we've done on. Iran made me want to get there ever since we've talked about it. So took minutes said you start at us in the capital, Yes yes. So Ashgabad new would either fly into or conceivably if you were on a road trip from either northern Iran or from Pakistan might come in. The car by I think most likely would come into the airport, which is very interesting. Airport probably will not see too many if any other airports that look the same with a multi billion dollar airport that looks like eighty giant Falcon or shave your channel self is a Falcon hundreds of feet. We'll be thousands of feet across. I will give you that I think that is not something that I can come up with some other place that looks like that. Interesting And a lot of the money that has gone into the country and refurbishing the airport and things like that is through oil I'm guessing from what you were saying earlier. I think technically it's the national gas that have the fourth largest reserve of natural gas in the world behind Qatar. Iran's the other one's. A ton of money selling natural gas and they used a a lot of that in the last twenty to thirty years post Soviet era to really redesign among other things the capital city bashed. In what are we going to do in Ashkhabad a couple things one is to take a look at all of the new items. So there are a quite a bit interesting buildings, just interesting shapes and that would be somewhat similar to going to Las Vegas in seeing Michael Tower and mock solar, and all the other interesting buildings hotels you've seen is similar buildings that are one of a kind type structures that are dotted all around the archer bill area. It's the newer area. Ardabil. Area of. Esteban others giant TV tower that's gotTa Revolving Restaurant Twenty nine resulted in giant Turquoise Star. In the middle of the tower. There is an entertainment center with the largest enclosed ferris wheel on civil nested to shield people from summer heat. There's independence monument. It's got a giant flagpole statues and lots of grand plazas. There's monument arch of neutrality, which vaguely looks like a rocket ship. Are they call it? The tripod has got three lakes that tethered to the ground of to commemorate out the country's declaration neutrality as a gold statue of the former president atop. The Central Bank is Shimmering Blue Glass Building with white wrapping the curves rounded a giant gold coin on talk. There's a hotel that looks like a sale. There's a meteorological tower that's. More rocket crosses the thermometer and in. Was Interesting is the wedding palace, which is a place where you can go to get married and register your wedding in. It looks like. A disco ball it employs a gyroscope like something that you'd put the astronauts in during their. Training up on a hill and you can see it from a number of different areas around our to bill able and always buildings if any one of them looked. Amazing. I I've been in one of those astronaut training things in your right the exactly what this looks like. Wow that's interesting. So in addition to all of those, there is also some interesting museums. There's a historical museum archaeological museum in that same area town that has a giant flag hold it uses the world's largest. Has, incited the world's largest carpet, which I believe still is the world's largest and a number of tillable items from various areas from partying at times and other the stoorikhel eras of Turkmenistan and when you're in there, you have to get a separate guide separate from whatever guide your width to take you around in explain the historical significance of thinking looking at one thing that really stood out to us were these curve drinking vessels that kind of are in shape horn. And who comes to him very intricate designs will have. Animal Shapes or animal crossed with dragon drag is not the right word by the easiest things to look right in our H. Y. T. win on Google images get an idea of what these things because they are quite interesting. I didn't recall seeing anything like them on the other places travel around. Interesting well, and you talked about this place being having a party in history we should say that the name itself. The name of all of the stands is not. In any way complicated it's the land of so the land of the Turkish people, the land of the Kazakhs the land of the WHO's becks that all of those are so I'm assuming from the name that most of the people in Turkmenistan are Turkic. Day are yes. So that history they're going well back to before be C. was part of the commended empire. Persia, Cyrus agape great derived that part. northern edge of that empire, and then as mentioned earlier Alexander, the great came and conquered them around maybe three hundred easier yet and Alexander X ray eight, Hundred Shoe Mirror Injured Minister Han as part of that scene trip I guess and at that point, it became part of Hellenistic in Cairo tremendous and more or less was back between Persian and Central Asian. Empires for quite a while until the Turkmen people came in. From. The steps announced right Oguz tries that moved into Mongolia now a eighth century ad an adult what they called the Seljuk Empire announcers really sort of the height of Turkmenistan's of include power. So somewhere between say the year nine, hundred, a year fourteen, hundred, ten, cheek. That was that became a Muslim. Yeah. Yeah. The country is quite full Turkmen although some of the northern cities, there's quite a bit more ethnic Russian people. A distinct difference in our guide commented how the the data shoes in. A part of the country rating with border. Lor is a bit more ethnic Russians snapper country. Okay. But I was just thinking when you were talking about the carpet we do associate carpets with Persian rugs and with with Turkish carpets and such. That sort of tradition goes quite far back in this particular area. Yes for sure. So that archaeological museums is quite interesting in mentioning that the writings came from party in times in a just west of Ashby Batmobile fifteen twenty minute drive. Is the old party city of niece, and it was partly in settlement built around two hundred. BC. Indeed, it was actually a capital of a party in. For A bit. So there was an imperial residence. That supposedly was in Noosa. A most of the city was destroyed by an earthquake shortly four year zero and wasn't really a week bills but interesting about it is because it was been left alone for so long even though its ruins it hasn't been in built over. Or looted to the extent that number of other old parthenon cities have been in. So you can just walk around these ruins, walk right up to the walls and it takes a bit of imagination to imagine what the city will. But it is interesting compared to places where you're always behind ropes and you're you're six feet away from all walls can't really get up close and personal hearing. Isa You definitely could interesting and it is a UNESCO World Heritage Site we should say. Yes I think there's three in the country and I think I will mention all three. Okay. Excellent where after an ISA. So in that same area, in fact, on the drive probably between. Proper nieces they there. You'll go through the desert on both sides of you. You'll see mile after mile after mile, Christmas trees, and. been planted purposefully in the middle of the desert trying to change the climate to have more humidity. Ebeid rain. So the climate becomes less oppressive and found that fascinating. I've never seen a country, go to that effort to try and change their climate for the better, and it's really amazing the desert is in Christmas trees on on both sides. It's not something I was expecting to see also the grapevines are in that area and again Turkmenistan's not in I would have thought of for. Grapevines. But if you look at their latitude, it's the same latitude is Italy Spain south of France Northern California. So it certainly stands to reason that the groups there can be a very high quality when our guide to list is that the grapes theoretically to have equality but has low behind the curve in terms of people being experts fermenting, cascading, bottling etcetera. So perhaps, twenty years now, there may be a renaissance of. Turkmen wines. Well in that will to bend a little bit on. Ninety three ninety four percent. Islamic. So it depends a little bit on what version. Of Islam they have through that period of time. How strict there? Yes, that was something that was interesting. We noticed in Turkmenistan as well as the other stands that I think if I guess because of the fact that they were under. Soviet Empire for so long Islam in Central Asia appeared to us to be more secular in other words wiz people's way of life but it wasn't a formal government structure or anything like that, and there weren't any Prohibitions Against Your Game Volley with that. Interesting Another thing in the Ashley by area would be interesting is the Jack Mosque? which is one of the largest. Largest mosque in Central Asia, it was built. Thirty years or so by the first Turkmenistan President post-soviet era. and. One thing that's interesting about this particular mosque besides at scale is that inside the mosque in addition to quotes. Scriptures from the Koran. There are also writings from the NAMA which was a religious text that she written by the first president of the country and that his road some people the wrong way but. Elsewhere, and to go back to something, you mentioned a minute ago about. Depending on what sort of religion there it is the next twenty years there. One thing that we were told that was kind of interesting is that trickles Dan has government quote unquote supervision for religions. Interview people who to open up the church opened up a mosque, open up a temple, etc in the interviews people in the hopes of. Making sure that they're reading out the extremists that might try to take religion away that the government doesn't think is. Appropriate for its citizens. That could be the way. Explained it in there. Something more nefarious acknowledged. Could be both yes. Yes that'd be. Your interesting one thing I should mention about since on top of that that Moss but it applies to several places in Iran Ashgabad is there for people who are photographers just be aware that there is a number of areas in around Ashgabat where photos were not allowed. Because their government buildings or religious institutions or something like that. In fact, we were told we couldn't take pictures of the airport itself WanNa. Get of the Falcon Building Locale no-go pictures stats, and one thing. To be aware of when you're there is to just always make sure will you ask your guy if the thing pictures up is if that's allowable? Well, I've run into that in western countries to run into that in Victoria Station taking pictures was considered a Faux Pas. Because of security reasons. Yeah. I. Noticed that actually in some cities. More. Often than not, it was because the thing that we couldn't take pictures of the US embassy. Battle. Yeah, interesting. 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You can learn more at international dot Sawyer, dot com, and thanks to Sawyer for sponsoring this episode of Amateur Traveler. Where to next so I would say next would be the gas creator Inder Basayev that is about a three hour drive north of Asta by through the middle of the. Desert one of the drives desert's. In, the world there's not a whole lot to see on that drive but there are a fair number of camels and if you're lucky, you might see some boxes when sell some fleeting moments. But Yet I would say the highlight of the country and ironically it's owed to a industrial accident fifty years ago. Mike, we mentioned earlier. has some of the largest reserves of natural gas in the early nineteen, seventy, the Soviets. During Soviet Times Turkmenistan's one of the. Socialist Republics are they were drilling for a new reserve in Darva? And what had happened WH- People's best guests at how this happened was during Soviet times. There was a lot of cotton was grown in to Stan in. So there was a lot of rerouting. Of rivers and groundwater to feed all of the cotton that was now being run on a much larger scale with a theorize happened is all that water diversion caused able to drop. And when the drill went through will soil in hit, which should have been ground wired's it hit a bunch of air and everything collapsed, and so this crater collapsed in on itself and like I said, it's about. Three hundred feet across and hundred feet deep. and. It's a little unclear as to how cock fire. There's some people who say that the incident itself caused an explosion and just look natural gas by her and there's other people who say. Now. The crater collapsed and gas was being released. The scientists say, Hey, rather than have this gas a floating around all over the country in. Going into nearby stage while we just burn it off but either way this has been burning constantly for years now so it just looks like a giant. Claiming crater I guess because it is Jackson. Good. Reason for that the trip that are vase as best we can tell is. Almost always a two day one night trip either from. Astronaut or coming from canoe against which is about the same distance from but in the other direction north south would say you coming from. Pakistan had visited couture inch in the morning. You would drive their boss in the afternoon or what we did is we left off Shebab who left lunch and drug or vas in the afternoon, and you get there just a little bit before the sun goes down explained you drive the history going on behind this and then ebays hang out on the rim of the crater as the sun goes down, and then at some point you get your dinner and you sleep in a tent overnight and in the next morning, you go back and you check out their creator again in. Iran. says. Not a long trip there, but it is definitely. Memorable because with the possible exception what you mentioned in Azerbaijan, this is something you don't really see. Anywhere else and compared to let's able can occur might look. More. There's not a noxious gases. it's GonNa. Come out in potentially your lungs. You can walk right up to the edge. There is no roads. No barriers of any sort and the asked her guy hey, has anyone ever fallen in and these said, no nobody has. So I don't know it's been all adults that had been Aaron have been on their best behavior neither something to be said for not having a bearers or forcing Reasonable themselves of when they did tell us his don't get closer than three feet from the edge because this is all three unstable how unstable ground and don't WanNa fall in his fall won't see. That's put. Get out the walls down quite. Steeply. Well, and if you want to do a tour of flaming craters, Azerbaijan is just the other side of the Caspian Sea from. Turkmenistan. So you're right there. That was one of the things that they told about as we were on the drive to Dr Boza, which is people have a quite a bit of interest in all the natural gas to stan has for the longest time since it was part of the Union. All of the pipelines or the natural gas I was went into Russia in out there. Sure now that took. Independent country has been quite a bit of interest in running pipelines across the Caspian. Sea to transfer natural gas from from Turkmenistan to Europe passing Russia, basically cutting out the middleman and a lot of geopolitics that go into that and in the same way, there's type lines that now go to China from. Turkmenistan. The A I think it's Kazahkstan again bypassing Russia. So it's kind of interesting to see how everything is reorienting itself decades after the break up of the Soviet. Union. Interesting Where to next? Yes. From there, we traveled north on that same road that kind of goes straight up center of the country and out just before the. Border Air is the old. Ruins of which was from the of times at the top of the silk. Road. And this was a area that rose to prominence between the tenth and fourteenth centuries, and for a brief time was capital of. Referred to as the chorus Marya. Konate. Kingdom Kingdom if you will had a areas in. Present. Day Is Stan Kazahkstan in Turkmenistan some of these cities in Pakistan such as key Bud Sammer con the end car part of the same area in the podcast is great a different recommend people this podcast as well. We used it a lot to actually plan our trip or when we went on this is back Stan, but anyway as with many of the areas in. Central. Asia time in the twelve hundreds gingas Kahn came and wreak havoc. He destroyed canoe organs in twelve, twenty one but the city was rebuilt. And then they will conquered about one hundred years later by Tamar was a special Asian general and king, and they surrendered to him to have the city be spared. Any did spirit. Apparently shortly thereafter they rebelled against is leadership. And that was not taken too well. So the city was burning around all the irrigation destroyed an crops were planted on top of remains city. After the city was earned the ground by Tamar, it lost implements to Kiva, which is A. Nearby area just on the other side of the border in in presentations gate is by Stan and after that happened a abandoned. So again, it's one of those things where it's not in good shape but since it was entirely, bannon is more or less exactly how it was hundreds of years ago it says it's interesting to see what it looks like now because unlike a lot of areas that have been rebuilt show what they look like a thousand years ago this has not been so to see the state of disrepair so you. What it once was, but how it has been four eight hundred years now others for many things to see. In Kunar against one is eight giant minarets two hundred feet high called the minaret, and apparently the minarets built. So high back in the day so that people subroto to get an idea of okay. At looks about a day out that looks about today's out. Where you were going from from town to town also in that area is a trabant. Mausoleum that we were able to go inside the inside is in pretty good shape the inner dome. When you're on the inside, you can see the mosaic, all the decorations mosaics. Like when outside you can see the outer dental, which sits above the ennerdale is about half gone and one thing that's interesting about that is so many of these domes buildings you'd never really realized that there's two domes inner dominant Outer Dole but this one you can see clear as day united how together. Also. In the same area, there's the tha cash muzzle Liam, which is a little bit smaller than back on Muslim, but has a more intact roof and you can see on blue tiles that are specific to the Selahs Euch era and the architecture during that time. Okay. Because I'm thinking they reminded me a lot of some of the buildings we saw in the episode on was Becker Stan but that would also probably been soldiers took them. Yes. Yeah. And even during that time, some of the buildings was on Iran at the same architecture because I guess during that time, the soldier empire had power or influence over. Iran. So it was interesting to see the same architecture in what today are three different countries but back, thousand years ago were all sharing culture in architecture rethink among themselves. The fourth thing that was really interesting to see in. Communion against was the CARAVANSERAI scenario where you would as you came into town, you would place your camels and other animals in this area, tie them up and go into town, the market and whatnot. And a lot of these. Is You. Don't really see any more, but this one is in pretty good shape still. So that was interesting to see. So yet again, Ganj probably about a half day Taylor. Pretty interesting will and Caravanserai is basically the heart of the Silk Road right year basically traveling from from one to another along this, this route was your chance to resupply and. Take care of the camels in such a relatively safe place. Yes. Yeah. Yeah and so a lot of these cities obviously went. To make sure that it was safe for people because if you had an unsafe city in order to sound a different route the differences instead. So there's that competition have the best markets, the most secure facilities summer and so forth. So then he the last place I recommend people see which is out in the eastern part of the country is mirror, which was one of the biggest cities that you've never heard of apparently. Around eleven hundred, it was the third largest city in the world with over half a million people and this goes back to third century BC times allowing mentioned earlier. Alexander. The great actually visited part of his exploits out in. Central. Asia city was actually named Alexandria for a bit. And the city lasted for hundreds thousands of years really started to grow in influence in power. When the Ogre's Turks, Aka, the Celtics peacefully took over around ten, thirty seven and so between then. And Win Gingas Kahn gingas Kahn songs destroyed the city in the twelve hundred. It was considered one of the largest cities in the world because of its a specific strategic place on the Silk Road between the mountains that separate Turkmenistan from Afghanistan, and then also the desert to the North Mirror was kind of in the sweet spot in between them and so people coming down. From, San conned China and working their way towards Iran would almost certainly go through American ha by the reason you heard of it is was sacked by gangs ton son. Louis. and. Of that, more than half a million people all but four hundred people were killed. Shared. Four hundred artists but everyone else was killed and as you can imagine after that it took the city longtime recover and it lost all of its infamous power and really didn't it was shell of its former self until it was eventually captured by the Russians the. The eighteen hundreds but was was really fascinating about. Marriage is because it's been around for so long it has seen power and influence multiple different eras and every new era rather than build over already there they would just build a new world city to the side where the Old City was. So it's kind of like seeing history side by side by side, there are an area called Air Cola, which is seven century BC from the augmented empire right next to that is guy are Kala which is from the third century B C's regret hellenistic part theorem. Their Salton Kala, which is from the Celtic Times. Obviously, that is in the best condition, but it's fascinating to see kind of. Oldest, older old side by side by side. Quite a few interesting things to see there mostly in the. Soltan, Kala area. There is a tomb of amid Sanjar who was a one of the most severe leaders during that time it was built in the twelfth. Century. That one has been restored. So it's much better condition than some of the other things even rate Knicks still, and in fact, about how during this time might see similar things in his back stand tomb of minutes in jar really reminds me of the. smadi Muslim that's Bukhara and also one of the scenes at jumping mosque in Isfahan Iran am assuming. They all use styling. That was the sort of the in thing in the mid twelfth century says like I said, it's interesting to see a lot of the same styles used over and over again in what now are different countries but been very related to one another. There's also call the Great Kids Cala which is this also took a fortress outside the city walls of the little unclear exactly what it is maybe it was a guard tower or something to that effect, but the was interesting about it is the walls or corrugated. So if you could imagine doing diagonal tiles Knox filling in the missing triangles, that's what the walls look like they're constantly putting in and out and. That was for defensive porpoises or discuss. It looks cool. But it does look cool and a lot of that is still intact maybe seventy five percent or so. In these walls are about one hundred and twenty, five feet across. Forty feet high. Score building nets. That's another one of the highlights to see in mirror and air the oldest a bunch of mud walls that obviously twenty, seven, hundred years later nine in great shape. You can walk up. The walls because Russian basically just a not that steep incline anymore but you could walk up to the top of the walls and get a good view over the city and again UNITA fairmount imagination to imagine what city look like twenty, seven, hundred years ago but you can definitely make out the pairing. Of this, if nothing else, the scope will say and you can see the neighboring parts of the city as well. So that's pretty interesting. Well, you were talking about during the time of the subjects and I don't know if we quite put a timeframe on that we're talking about the late one thousand into the eleven hundred or twelve hundred or so would be the newer part of the city. The ogooh apple came from the Mongolian steppes think like you said, the middle of the eleventh century actually that period more or less ended on your specific city depending on whether got destroyed by one of King's cons able or whether it's right or or both. Yeah that's the win it ends is always easier for historians to put a date on, but it's sometimes not as clean in actual history when this empire starts are winning ends excellent. Well, and those were the main sites that you wanted to cover. If I recall correctly, that is yes and so again I don't think I know normally on on this podcast Hitler doing one week two week trips I think frankly more on A. Four or five days in combine it. With Iran or Pakistan or the same trip our land borders to go between the countries in. So depending on where you come in, you might end up in mirror. I is it happens to be closer to where you're coming from, and so those are the for sites but I I would say that Cookman Stan. Is Not going to be an area where you're going to hang out for two or three weeks. Itself will on a double check to the two thousand, twenty, two trip that we're looking at for amateur traveler does not go to Turkmenistan, it's Kazahkstan curious Stan and then. Summer can was BECCA. Stan. So so maybe this is the trip that you add onto that when you come. Yes, it is an easy add on particularly if you're working with a company that has the ability to get the necessary. Or to get one thing that I don't think I mentioned earlier is maybe one of the least visited countries world. There are more people who go to archive ear. Inn there's something on the order of seven thousands of tourists, a year Hasso that out it's only about twenty day. Now, who did you use to facilitate your trip? We use Muir Mir. Ever read any of the travel magazines, Nick got all the ads at the back going to Peru and Galapagos New Zealand and everywhere else if you see something that's got central Asian building, the odds are pretty good. You can add mirror and they really did take care of everything A. They did right by US I know there's a handful of other companies that go there as well but I certainly have no reason to not recommend Mir is that like this station or the? Like. Russian company from the name I don't know I was dealing with somebody in Seattle so. We specialize in Russia or so. Definitely. Definitely their bread and butter is central. Asian. Okay. That is their thing. That's what they do. kind of what else should somebody know before they go to Turkmenistan? What do you wish you had known before you went? Well I think one thing that I. Wish I had known was that the picture taking was going to be a little bit more difficult in some places. Another thing. Also, the only pictures is interesting and as well as a lot of other places we saw in. Central Asia, there's maybe an entry fee to the site that you're staying in a separate fee if you're going to take pictures. So giving sampled by five dollars to get into ISA but another five dollars wanted to take pictures and that's the thing where you just need to have maybe a little bit of walking cash around to cover things like that and a lot of them are. Camera. So you had say a long lens and shortlands you might have to pay twice camera fee now did they charge for people with cell phones because I haven't seen people catch up to realize that almost everybody has a camera in their pocket I'm I don't remember off top my head. Okay. Amazon select acknowledges assume that had actual cameras. Why would we take pictures with our cell phones Israel, the answer being of course, the panorama feature but they didn't notice one other thing to bear in mind. Also camera related is because of the size of Theravada, the gas crater. New Propaganda One as wide angle camera as possible city can get it all in a lot of the pictures Catholic. Ninety percent of the width of the crater but not all of it. Okay. So he had something more like a sixteen millimeter eighteen meter width on your camera. You could definitely get it all in my wife still pro was able to get photos that said it all in. And another thing in Basel related to pictures his loved A. Giant tripod all across Central Asia to take nighttime photos of the crater, and once I was there in its setup the Tripod I realized it's wages take help photos because there's so much light coming out from all the flames hiring actually need to Tripod interesting. Exposure and indeed the longer exposure time the pictures just lur-. Because the flames are moving around out, Chernobyl? Yes. Take a normal hand held camera. You don't need specialized equipment to take photos at the gas freighter at night. It and by the way the answer the question about Myr and there whether they were formed to do tours to Russia. The answer's yes they were that name. I did correctly identify as Russian it means both peace and world of hence the Mirror space station and it basically the person who founded the company in eighteen eighteen, Nineteen eighty-six basically helped organize a goodwill volleyball tour to the USSR and then formed this company again at that time to help people go to the what was the Soviet Union. I don't make sense. Yeah. So we sometimes asked this question I think there's an appropriate time. When did it feel most? Like home and winded at, feel the furthest from. Most home I would say was one of the days in Ashkhabad we were at just a small local restaurant, fast food restaurant in one of the Russian bazaars, and this is sort of equal of like McDonald's or. Something like that and in there is a bunch of young people probably on their lunch break and they were on their cell phones and music videos were playing on a TV that was in the corner of the restaurant and it seemed so different from everything. We had just seen earlier that morning. And definitely seem like something that you could see in any small restaurant anywhere in the US. So that was where I would say it seemed the most similar. The least similar. I would say maybe. One, the border crossings we've become land board housing going from Dash Agoos into was Becca Stan and we went on to Kiva for stop. And there. You definitely realize that you're doing it land border crossing from one country. It will poultry in everything that goes into that and especially in an area where English is not widely spoken at all and you're trying to communicate the pointing the various things in the past Florida pointing various things on on these forms You definitely realized that your your long from home. Will in sometimes in those land borders it doesn't feel like you're being greeted as a long lost friend so much is A. Why would you come here and what are your? What are your motivations and It's not always welcoming I don't know what your experience there was. It wasn't the warmest. Generally. Don't hire people for that personality trait I think in around the world. Will also one of those things too. When you get only seven thousand people a year exactly really meeting the tourists is not really a giant incentive to be out released friendly to them. There is doing their job. A one thing I will stay had been told this prior to packing is that they check your bags and you get in or. Four but one of the things they're looking for is new illicit drugs. Among. That is Sudafed, I guess because maybe make something from the Federal Minute Koso- if somebody was planning to take cold medicine with them, which is a good idea just don't take something with ephedrine. Okay. Anything else we need to know before we good to Turkmenistan I would just say the food was a welcome surprise. This was the first of the stands that we visited. So this is our first experience dealing with sinful food because we hadn't been to Central Asia before and you don't see a whole lot of central. Asian restaurants around the United States, the food was amazing. It really is sort of a mishmash between Chinese food to the East and Mediterranean. Turkish. Free type food to the West and is really really good. Some of the things we had with Orek, which is a dumpling soup. That was quite good. Monte which is kind of like a giant pot sticker large dumplings logon, which is pasta, but also in a soup. A noodle has a diameter roughly life would say pencil. So gotTA, Pasta dishes that might have like lamb and spices in sauce on the top, or you might see log minus soup with stadia, chicken Brockton, and so all the food there was was quite amazing actually some of the best noodles we've ever had anywhere at just quick and easy restaurants on the town sir. You're in a smuggled tour. Yes. So we had actually booked a tour that was private Oh Kim Gordon fine with other people coming. Yeah. But it's one of those like Look Wanna go on these dates in these places and. No one else is interested in doing these acta convert we did but young lot of these tours to that part of the world are your ten to fourteen a. Package tour that sees some merv in maybe Sammer con in Bukhara in Pakistan in one of the other stands or to the other storms as well. They have long trips that will hit all five and there's a lot of those that we saw as we went around, we saw some the group tours in key that were maybe twenty thirty people. Would see those going around some of the sites, but it didn't seem to be that much more to do accustomed tour maybe just because there's not that many to snap the world. Sure on this. Happy to have own interested to see what they have. There will one of the reasons I asked was related to the food 'cause I've found that when you do the smaller group tour, even like we've done with eleven people twelve people. Even up to sixteen, you can go into a local restaurant and he might fit when you start to getting into thirty to forty your options get much more limited and so I've found the food isn't necessarily his because you can't go to the small local restaurant you have to go to the specific place that can deal with with your a big bus. So that's a good point because we did have one of the meals industry careers. That obviously on the TV guide to on these tours before you can know the group to restaurant yet giant tables for. Sixteen twenty people and and like you said the Buddhist. has many choices what it still good. Even there it was just not as good as some of the places that we We're able to go that words are. Excellent. What time of year? Would you recommend Wego? Definitely, recommend either the spring or the fall depending on what other places you're going to junction. Definitely, not the summer because it would be excruciatingly hot and not the winter because especially going to go to the gas cratering, it'd be out in the middle of nowhere at overnight in the tent I think it would be far too cold. So I would say spring or the fall you're going somewhere. Let's say like Kirghistan where you might WanNa, do some hiking. Recommend. The fall because you're gonNA have better weather there may be September would be great if you were combining missed in with Lindsay. On I would recommend this spring so that some of the spring colors, flowers, cinerama shells, and behind would be in bloom and the the reverse in the seats would have more water. The difference firm fall would be my recommendations for the time of year. Excellent. As, we start to wrap this up. You were standing in the prettiest spot in. Turkmenistan, where're you standing on? What are you looking at? Are Standing on the east side of deposit gas crater looking across the crater at the sunset to the West? Excellent. One thing that makes you laugh and say only in Turkmenistan I would say it was our border crossing because there was a little mix up with some of the stamps own my wife's passport and a ushered her back to back across the little walkway between is Becka Standard Treatments and we had no idea what was going on in rehearsal for down at the time but now that time has passed. Right. And that's doing it with a guide. Yes although that the guy we had separate guys for each country so Little area we were separated guy the other thing that I would say only Turkmenistan was we were lucky enough I. Guess. I would say to get rain non in the European desert next been raining in that desert in audit. So I that pope assist among early select. In the Sahara does that come. On Campbell's with other listeners of the show. So. One thing fascinating because of the rain coming down. No, the desert is there were Campbell's all over the road drinking water alcohols sure because it was the one side where the water was actually pooling rather than just sinking down in the sand rail only in Turkmenistan have we seen Campbell's drinking one out of potholes? Excellent and if you had to summarize Turkmenistan in three words, what three words would you use? Truly undeniably Orrin. Okay you'RE GONNA have to explain that. We have visited been lucky enough to visit over fifty countries L. and of all the ones we visited Turkmen stand is the one of the most foreign to us in terms of our was laid out in terms of how structured if was in terms of how different everything seemed from what you're used to traveling down the US even let's see bureau or South America. This place just seemed the most different from any of the countries that we've seen and is Louis does serve a pin Weiss every since the meaning of the word or? Act Flip. Our guest again has been Justin Barnes from just an end crystal dot com, and just if we went to send people, do you have a post on Turkmenistan talk more about your trip? Yes. Travel log with that whole trip visited Iran and Turkey and four five stands. Next got some pictures and some video. I think it will give people pretty good idea what will senior were to expect all these people useful. Excellent. Won't put a link to that in the show notes and thanks so much justin for coming on and sharing with us your love for Turkmenistan. News the community I thank you goes out to the patrons of the show who helps support amateur travel especially to those who joined me for doom call last week it's always fun getting together. You also can support the show if you're interested by going to patriot dot com slash amateur traveler I did also want put out an apology to Debbie Debbie you know who you are who I accidentally while she. was trying to join the trip group, the travel dot com slash trips, which is a private facebook group where we talk about where we're going to go as a group accidentally deleted her what I was trying to approve her 'cause. I shouldn't do that thing first thing in the morning. But if you're interested in joining us at a trip, once we can start traveling again image traveler dot com slash trips. Thanks for Philip who commented on the episode we did recently on the Curragh. Tara. In Chile, this was a terrific listen with an articulate and very interesting guest to what did the appetite to visit would have been useful to hear more on accommodation options budget particularly in such an interesting region and thanks for the feedback. Philip I'll try and keep that in mind in the future I've been highlighting some affiliates that we work with amateur travel here at amateur traveler dot com slash affiliates the one I wanNA highlight for. Today is Erdogan Adventures and Urban Adventures does day tours and I'm surprised that there are still a number of daters that are happening now and possibly one in the city you're in. If you're getting a little tired of being indoors, they're still trying to practice safe social distancing in masks and all of that sort of thing but you might check them out. Go to amateur trial the DOT com slash affiliates for a link to that. 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I was gonna say davis but we get into that If he didn't make power move he just made. I was gonna say barron david this twenty four hours in a day. Yeah like cbd. That'll work where would you put him at though. Holly i'm sure. I want to go to south for being biased. But i got you here. He's a it all right now. Ant age we're the west coast hughes coast. You're gonna made me google google because i don't even know like i don't want to sound like like host. I don't want to pretend like. I don't east coast kid. Jordi of hughes aren't but i'm sure you know why though slave we in effect i'm serious. That's that's why yes. I wouldn't argue that point. Hold on fact a all that happened and look at google. Somebody asks are there any. Hp using california's a real question mark that is one. Just me yeah. It's not just you wouldn't be southern california. Now it never rains in southern naama chart. No drew is on east coast. No no. I take that back charles. Rg university of medicine and sciences. Hec located in los angeles california. Wow with an enrollment of a massive six hundred and eighty five students. I'm just joking now. No it is expensive. Okay listen you saw. That is really good. Yeah i can't wait for more. She listen hold on. So i had no. Moore's brown is on the comeback if you are here in atlanta you guys. Maybe you've seen the news but moore's brown is on a comeback. Think they're like one or two from fully getting their credit back acts. Alright so brown comes back then. The towers to come back have told you about my his. You know what shea notice. I didn't do nothing illegal next time. All you know. That's a big thing jay. I very careful but to answer your question shadow. Hugh connect dot com. But yeah charles charles or university of medicine. Scientists in is in la because he is super california. Kids call like so. I think he'd go to usc because he is not leaving. The state of california berkeley california cats that they are super like a new york heartbeat. He ready to go at all in california. Dude is not leaving. i understand. Weather's crazy in the weed is good so he goes my my for no cause i also heard allegedly saw so. This is what the thing is. You know who. I would like to see coaching. And you just coach period. Oj simpson not at all. Got even closer. You're keep him away from the kids. 'cause keep them on. Twitter like is awesome. Let's stay on too much. I'm sorry i'm sorry. Go ahead who you wanna see. Got my back you talking about the jews that under say. He said he'd never that school. Listen there's nobody had to learn no don't do that. I'm saying like listen east by issues. Those are the the names. I was calling the one. We've all heard of you know what i mean the dow. We're spelman morehouse bcc. Fam- set out of the anyway. So when he come on it really is georgia. State really is but we're not doing that. Listen had west listen. I'm glad my daughter did not choose over west anyway so wait a minute. That's old jesse. 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Listen and oak slept collision coaches resting calling nothing on them black. I'm let you go and we did. You want it for you. Can you please please please not call me a bitch again. Mixed tape got so anyway. Oh now but he do a good job. Coaching big three. So that might be a good choice is big as victory coming back and twenty twenty one guy toubro. Kobe kind of hurt them. Not kind of really hurt them. Because i mean that's how money nate mason victory threes to mislead three. Stop there right now with my knicks tape hat on going to stop this disrespect on right ova next week and he'd be into shouldn't be when he wanted to beat the brakes off. Milwaukee wow they beat them they. They won by twenty eight after the game. Listen to see see see you know what we do know they shall turn out to. We were we. Were on a path to baron davis as the as the coach. Come on. let's go meet the. Let me grab the wheel. Let's gotta volkan so. Have you heard. I have heard a little bit. Tell me more. I didn't really show p milan. Barron day was in talks to do something that may alter the trajectory of fashion and culture for years to come and this report suggests that davis and miller are leading an investment group seeking to buy apparel brand reebok for two point. Four billion dollars. I'm gonna go back to at the. Hvac you think would be amazing. What we take over. Stand what would happen. You understand. what would happen if we owned a brand like that at that brand was black owned like the. Can you even fathom what that would be like fathom it because we own a couple of things you can. You even understand how that like. I want to invest in it. Because i want us to own like but but how much can i invest right now like my question. So just somebody put this on the facebook South section under that same post they said do we as african americans wear that brand we will. We will this. We weren't wearing adidas until you started taking over with with the with the. What does the software that uses. The knit wasn't doing that before him realities. Adidas wasn't hitting like that they will still adidas. there were still relevant. But they wasn't put like this 'pumas right now over then became a director creative director whatever. His title is over there now. All of a sudden puma got some shit now. excusing languages. Not buckle that got you got you sane over you gotta make over there. This not and that was that was in two years. Yeah yeah and we go to. We could get rebound bro. We go again. We are the trendsetters. Talk about it. But there's nobody else we tell you what's hot. Listen we show this clause us follow whatever we do. 'cause you make shit hot was that what are we doing bro. Melanin popping Everything else so as long as you don't do that. I mean he sits up baroness got there. He's invested could be your front design nothing to be trash. Wow this foam. I love him out. I bought some energy you support but it was a teacher said some i one listening what a shirt was only on the phone with the chips. He just needs to stick with to ratchet noodles rap snacks. Because you bought that s anyway entrepreneurship levels. We've getting into and we've just claiming they like us that's happening no it's As many rebounds backing up the garage if this happened so you saying if this happens. When i'm ready to claiming win it's not so let's talk. Let's talk some numbers. Let's talk some number. Because i like to talk about the talk less. So adidas board by two thousand five or four point eight billion okay now. Sales and reebok has been downright forty-three looking at me during research come on side anyway so sales and reebok this. You haven't been now right. listen. That's what i'll try and you see what i'm doing right now. Right you play. So tonight has happened. They also offered that. He in davis is giving them for two point four. Which is exactly half. If this ain't some i got the hookup type numbers. Stop doing let we offer you have owned. I don't think. I don't think they're going to do that. Because it's adidas. But i do think it'll come in around manifest moment. Hold on a second you see coming. I think that final numbers going to come in around three billion but this is the other big thing that we gotta pay attention to normally in a pass talking about the jays on. Today's and things like that when we have big conglomerate purchases like this word normally not the ones at the head of the sales. They'll say oh they're part of the purchasing ru gosh a part owner of cleveland cavaliers rami. No shots then. I don't know that's normally what happens is like island. Def jam is partnering with Seagram's gin head names of that. This announcement would it being about mass d making aaron day lack home. I don't say those are the names that headliners you just gotta be like to help people out you've got to be majority owner like most owners don't own one hundred percent of any damn thing right majority owners in the nba. For example you can own fifty one percent. You don't because you have the final say because other other got forty nine percent. It'll matter what the hell say i got fifty one. You know what i mean so like. That's all it is and just put having that as a black owned a black owned businesses. Like reebok who just i mean while they have fallen off. But that's still has the commission. When i see reebok whatever you know what i mean more schools and back not anything so because of that and so because of that. It won't be hard for you to get back in it won't it won't be hard for you to take market share. Like yeah we we you know grow. We can't help. We just do. We let hell out of some shoes man. I am become sneaker head to this year so it just it just wants a bite you bite the hell out who may and him getting into arguments all the damn time because i hate wasting money on anything but anyhow this year i wanted to I wanted to actually care about the way. I looked at the fact that do well due to the fact that my daughter is coming i wondering where to have i just wanted her to have actually example of somebody that she looks looks towards interesting transition. No more i mean. I didn't really care. I didn't really care too much because to me. It's just all about the music news. Good i felt like. I was good right but i feel like due to the fact that my daughter is coming into this world. She needs to actually have the first person that she looks at you. As an example versus finding somebody else as an example so for those that don't know. Let me just backtrack a little bit. That is i. Don't even want to call you. Engineer like a master dot com title but produces we'll go with producer claiming shooting. Listen so then. I talked off camera and j fresh and his wife is lovely wife. They were expecting their first child february. Yes february we're gonna february. He thinks she's coming around because they're having daughter take him so with me and we'll both we'll both have daughters. We tried to just should information. Not just but everybody so. It's interesting hearing that dynamic for you to say that because like my daughter's eighteen and three quarters should be nineteen in like five minutes. Wow do city. Grace grace papa anyway. So how'd you flagged. Listen but listen give. Thanks for that jim. let's go. He's not even double digits. Two months yes a solo all of that to bring back that you sing that aspect of it and thinking about it ahead of time. Oh yeah and makes me wonder what else are you as a father to be thinking or concerned about just how she grows up in this world I know we always talk about While i'm them this way raise them that way. It's not too much about what i can say. I'm gonna do it because i mean we all had that todd. How my dad raised raised now at the end of the day. I know the principles that that i was taught. I know the principles that i will instill Not to say that she's going to stick with it because even in scriptures is trying to put child on the way that they go in with their older they will not depart. That doesn't necessarily mean that they will stay with it the whole time on. It just means that when they get older is going to be. Oh this is what. I remember me to the water so with the principles that i have. I do want to introduce those two. But i'm not going to constrict her to the fact to where she can experience life outside of me. That sounds great. It sounds great house great. It sounds great. Emily will respond to that because no that was beautiful like no jokes. Beautiful but as a veteran job after eight a pot is everybody. Like i got a plan. You had a plan. And i realized that every dad had a plan plans. How is that was going to be like this. This and this kid comes and what happens at plan is trash says but i like the mindset of this certain principles that you the so i can't i can't make you write ride this line right. I can't make you do that. But i can say. I can put your mind like you if you now on this line of your and this line over here This could happen to you. The you wanna be on ella. And so like it's their freedom of choice that you give them like you and what you said. As far as making the example you i think more than anything. That's it right. Because when when i could visualize a lot of people can learn that you could tell me whatever you want but if i see it i guess it. I mean we had him. I'll go back and forth by the time i was like you gonna have some. Do come over the you know you got to clarify that. Because these crazy atlanta hood the out they jeans com. Not what he's saying is what i allow my daughter to date somebody who nah to allow because she would never bring that dude around him because at the end of the day. That's the principles that you that's all. That's the price of the work has been done. What what. I always say is trying to do everything for my daughter. I try to set that example when she wants to go to a daddy dance like i will. I'll quit a job. Try to get to that. Yeah i mean when she needs you wanna get jewelry. I'm going to be the first one by you. Some jewelry. I tell you i love you a billion times a day only because i know how i'm a man. Yeah i've been around women. I seem women with 'em daddy and you tell you i tell them you love them. I'm getting whatever i want from. Only because they never had nobody to tell them exactly that was about to go somewhere. But you know what i mean but would tell you like so my dad. Tell me love me sixty times a day I trying to get him off me because this liquid up jury look look at these dials was. Would you want to bobby. I don't care about that. I got all that. What are you have already told me. Look out for tax like you. You look exactly like what he told me. Lower wink for that romaine. So the example that you set more than anything. I think i see mall. I think that really really really sets that precedence. Yeah what up. Thomas i get him audubon. Yeah it's great. It's beautiful that's perspective from where i'm at so i'm a- we're all at different stages you had causing without realized and this is going to sound kinda on the man now. It's not even like. I'm super proud of my doors. She gives me very little worry about but she knows how to play me at this point. You know what i mean. Listen y for so we were talking about ready for that. So listen listen. So she's been she's a freshman at a school right and her and her close friends. They're working on getting an apartment off campus student housing in the apartment. Things like that. So we're going through back and forth with the people down there and every time i call my daughter. Heidi yeah this is what's going on. There is great right but and then she didn't realize she hand the phone after we talked. God his listen she. She was used to somebody. I'm not gonna go name and she was like. You're why you came over here talking to me while i was like. Okay get the names in it like it. And i'm very well aware of it. Because she knows she knows. I've always taken care of ninety. Five percent of everything is more than that but the point is have to be aware that they are still individual and they are going to pull on these heartstrings. Because we have no chance. You're about be a sucker. Say this in a good way. Yeah remain a sucker. In the only time i can. Don't be in a second but that was it. Yeah from girl. S just gonna happen. It's gonna happen. She always gone. She always going to be able to tell me. Oh that's your heart. And as i it's like i said the only only person i'll let me off but if you know me in y'all do know me what am i was about or entity genuineness those add as well. You know what. I mean joe it up. So that's the part that we need to really. That's what i'm trying to extend you wait. That's not even a word. But i'm trying to extend you guys as younger fathers and soon as far as like these girls men they go try you. Are they gonna do that. Puppet bassett so some about be mad later on it'd be like you're not that's why don't you tell 'cause you know what we talk about us on the show recap real quick because we gotta get recap twenty twenty so my gosh so too big thing about that is i got upset at a lot of the because i speak to a lot of older gentleman and one daughters odin emmy and been through it. I got upset at them. Because when i took my daughter to college in mother dropped off. Y'all warned me you're not willing to listen. It was traumatic. Experience time i was i was holding together. This so good news. Going down. I was i was like okay dish. You need is immoral. Listen i met him all into another story with you before. I should have warned you. I didn't warning he left you already. I even have the as i knew i had good. Good hell yeah. The waterworks was ineffectual. Man is like when because listen my door not a crier at all like. I've always raised her. We've always raise. Let me say right. So it'd be like okay if it's something serious crime well they didn't know it's okay but it's not like don't worry don't don't wear side. Don't keep your side. So but she's she my daughter's g when it comes to a lot of stuff like she doesn't let a lot of she'll shake it off and like that so when my daughter cry listen when she starts putting her head on. My shoulder is life. I have no defense over sarah. You have no defense on. Which so fatality joking. I don't know we'll have cry proper. I'm not even trying to even play. My i'm gonna cry. He's like a fifth sixth grade. Finished on a roll out west. I'm just want you to know. Because i have to warn yellow and this is so early for you know josh. But it's a part of what it is. I never saw like after dropped off. I'm driving home right. And it's a few hour drive and kill what is going on right. Now why do my eyes feel so heavy. what is this understand. what's going on high pollen count time signing even in my wintertime. Bobby i haven't seen listen so just so you know i did favor and give you a heads up. That's what i'm saying. I'm saying do you welcome our new time. I we this recap illustrate what hugh we gotta talk about another daughter effect because we can't be running you anyway but it's a good thing a good thing a good thing supposed to like that. That wasn't shot. This reminds me your goal is to be the most important man life. Yeah as long as you possibly can forever. Which makes good how. 'bout told you half staff at twenty look at the transit. No awkward pets might affect go. Clear the safest. Wait a minute one of the things that i want to ask. Y'all from this. Because you know. I kinda be hosting the rectum spikes lawsuit spike from anyway so sigma taking. My mom wanted one of the things. One of the mini lessons. That i've learned this year. And i want you to share. Just one lesson on manhood fatherhood whatever needs to be just not fluff because we don't do fluff on his show. I'm doing now that. I learned and really embodied this year with my daughter going off to college. I'm gonna stay in line with that. 'cause you know the england crossover michael to left anyway. So one of the things that i learned was while the hood never ends it never ends. It's always an ongoing thing. Like people people hit me up early this year at she graduated the virtual graduation. Y'all congratulations. You made it. And i was like what i hear what you're saying but no is over. We are not done. This is the early beginnings of it. So that part of the conversation and voicing nets like you know what you right. And i was like yeah. You'll job doug where we gotta get. Your job is done when you're done so when you going for as it so with that being said i wanna say that. 'cause i got three older sisters and i have a father so kind of i watch them. How about that. You may not see it. You always going to be daddy s. And i just think it's like i look at that and i'm just thinking to myself like dan dope. I can't wait to be eighty and has my komi like without being a perv. Daddy you like. I got love that that way. I don't know why this is a good morning. Got daddy to okay. it's different. Yeah she's don't took like. I was saying let's wait a minute. Nobody that hasn't shit show look know we sent joe hoy not look come out. Listen look you do it so anyway but let me you. This see brother. I don't know crank them up so there's been back a little bit because we got like three things talk about three. Yeah we do. At least i got them hip. Hop i mean we gotta exhibit to say about four hours. I told him. don't listen. i say three hours. Oh can we get the months salute the mugs sides. Oh no my mug about any s. your drink. I'm jackie so anyway delicious jay. I i wanna go to you. What is one thing that you can take away from this year as a real lesson. Nothing don't we know about kobe. We get that as nothing to do. Okay cohen all you ready you ready to hit it. There's no there's nothing for me was for us for you. So don't matter what what happens. It doesn't matter what what goes on. If it's destined for it to be happening in your life dealing with the timing of what's going on in your life it's gonna happen regardless things are gonna like make ways and whatever see that you so you'll reap when you're not expecting it so let me ask this note. That was beautiful. And i agree with everything that can you be little more specific for. Be comfortable with a i can. I can cause on instagram a lot. And we get the passes talking in generalities and get you. And i don't know what you're talking about Because of the year I really thought this studio wasn't going to prosper the doing this. Yeah because of the year. I didn't think the studio was going to prosper the way they did. And i can't say this without talking about the history of the The studio we. We started the studio ten years ago. Ten years ago This was nothing but flat cement We built this whole thing from scratch and We we lost it because we didn't have we didn't have the money to keep up with it. The owner of this place started a church and then three years later they were able to get this place back. Crazy part is everything was still intact Nothing had been changed. You know when you lose a building you lose several chess it does. Everything's intact so after everything being intact. I mean started we. We start a whole launch party. And everything's going down of course we got. Dj knots on the podcast. We got this other podcast and this guy this year and then covert hits right and then we're just kinda like so. We still going to be able to make money. Are we still going to be able to like. I thought it was another close But it actually prosper And we change the name of the studio. It wasn't arc. What was it before it was actually air studios many minor air like the elements of the earth. Okay captain planet. Yeah we know win this thing no good but would they be an arc. If you look at what are significant is it basically The arc significance was the inhabitants or basically the significance of it was it was able to keep going. Disaster was happening That's what our comes from. talk to. It was able to keep going when when disaster happens so would this being the ark. This was literally like the hub for everybody because we had what everybody needed at the specific time and every other studio was closed us dope. That was a am. It was epic time. It was no no. We've my my bed. Let me let me represent right. Let me act like i. Do we act like a see in. This is what anyway so my point was. I don't know why they pass me that. Teapot teeth you know Sharing that. Because i did not know that at all that part of it is really part of the foundation of when you bring people in after that because then they can feel the energy so what i mean by that is because a lot of people hit me up like l. we are coordinating which out. Don't worry about it. And i don't trying to get exactly you don't mind business but also serve the renamed the podcast people we number one act up there. The podcast come on come on so certain people would actually connect with tampa and and with t t channel teaches number one so he comes she superdome so for you to share that painted by hand the design and everything like that. It was nothing in there. It was all we had was downstairs. That was here to. That's all we have is downstairs. That's what i'm talking about all right so it's hard to transit not transition but translate that to people who've never been here but on what we're gonna do in the spring of twenty twenty one. We're gonna have a pulse for applause. Appreciation party in the spring is probably gonna be april and the reason why i can talk so confident about it. Because i know how to manifest stuff manifest moment anyway blown. Just really bring that energy. Those who want to come out gonna make it available. So they're gonna come they. They can't because they understand when it's about being with genuine and authenticity because we got we got t. n. t. peaches maliki was good So anyway Let's see what we got actually know what. Let me make a quick announcement so season three. Y'all have been asking. When are we can have like guests in the room. Season three is kicking off on a mid black history month. Josh is team. No josh is family. No we've got a lot of stuff coming up It's gonna kick off very sad discovery. Music channel We got a couple more things to talk about. I just wanted to see that. And getting it out there. What i want to do for the first show of two thousand twenty one. I'm going to make a for those of you. Who like and follow and subscribe. When you to. I'm going to make a special raffle is back you. Because thankfully people have loving us like between the lightweight. Who did i got right now. like this. Join right here like listen. I was so against all black joint. But i'll let you need you got you got you so anyway. It's all of that to be said This is one of the lightweight. Join that we have come in. It's it's actually know out right now. So we're going to do a raffle or everyone. Who subscribes to youtube and subscribes to follow the page on instagram. I got to go for gay. Got who incidentally plus podcast. Hey go to raffle you ready for this every shirt. Tank top t. hoodie choice. Sweat shirts you gain it all now again it all all wa. I'm tired of. We've talked about this whole i'm talking about this. So so so. We got tank tops for the summer. You got the lightweight guy. Yeah i don't. I know you don't you got any baby clothes okay. All right all right. Because i'm trying to. I'm trying to make sure they lineup. Geneka like it's actually spilled the same way we go back to that. That's my girlfriend swab. We're gonna come back to that trying to segue shown. Nobody saw nobody anyways. My girlfriend don't even know about it so anyway. Oh definitely mama starting january when we come back so it was after january first. It's going to be the first show in two thousand twenty one. We're doing a and only not doing tonight. It's just came up with it. So the point is hoodie. T shirt tank top sweatshirt. All at the whole package is happening. And i appreciate that so no that. That's what's gonna happen so yeah. I do too packages because i'm here for the people i mean. Hold on listen we all. We're trying to reach the masses role are we are. We not trying to beat chemises. Thank you know what i'm saying. It's like i thought a coffee months is going to be one. When i when i showed her in a i listened to mug with my well my face on it. Oh my gosh happening. It'll be that. Were definitely i. Can't i can't get a real life. Place i i gotta get. You gotta get down. Okay belongs so anyway. Um that's coming. Twenty twenty one Satellite discovery channel homeless down. Rv studio so let's get back to some other The him now i anyway. We've got a couple of subscribing now right can we. Can we talk about love. That can we talk about the rapid twenty twenty. Yeah i know. I keep changing. I keep moving gopro definitely so i'm asking jay fresh joe i want you in your opinion on this too because i know jay. I is going to be some kirk franklin seven. I'm like yo you necessarily talking. Actually i got so you ready okay. So he goes to category two to super and prepared for this. I know we re i'm ready. We've only been talking about it for three months tomato same thing. So what are your three most influential albums of two thousand twenty albums that you're going to remember february fourteenth makes it came out of twenty twenty. But you're going to actually be listening to and still be impacted by this is music along. Whatever because we're about to coach. Franklin we're here about the culture for both bring the right now. Come on. this is trying to run the levees. So jay fresh. Are you ready because he knew any already. I'm gonna start with nas that came out. How many you name right first of all. Because he's excuse naseer desperately. As i just wanna help and then Then i'm go. Okay go bust and here we go. We actually go big shot really. I know i. I listened further. I was like. I listened for it because in previous episodes i know i know what i'm saying. I tried to tell you. Yeah it's pretty good. I listen i listen. I know so you saying nice boss. The big show Three albums because listen to after this year. Yeah definitely buster. Because i'm still on that record. I mean he's got ninety eight souls on out. I'm mayor was good that me right there. Oh man we need. We'll talk later. You know. I'm definitely not going to know not definitely on you know. Be on me so Because i was trying to divert from being a dj. But it's fine. I'm go with our eyes is well. It sounds so cliche. But it's an amazing out my second one it's going to always come first That's w it's all you know what i'm about to do because he knows how. I love my queens queens. Guess i'll add me. I would call y'all al trouble. It's anyway i'm gonna marry now. You may leave him alone not easy for doing too much. Yeah okay cool much. We need to her any sorry. I'm sorry she got more free time anyway. A this is what is like single in atlanta and twenty twenty anyway so i have no ties so the night i know tires and over did oh did ya. See the post which votes there was opposed to this chick made and she says she's been aside chick for nine years. She finally became the main all because she played her role. What does she do she. She played her respect to to you. She stick to what you're talking about posted a picture of her. I'm telling jokes. Please take you to hip hop questions all rabbit rabbit hole little. Who's right now. Listen now listen hold on hold on hold on. Wait we let. Let's just say this. Let me say this you know. Let me just say this. Let me just say this scientific vote. This is why he wanted his no longer a cheat. It is now an audition way. Decide the side shake is not as not achieved. Go to replace auditioning coming back to that. He's gonna we're allowing edition so yeah dishing for nine years in order to get into main island. Mind you married man singh this. I disagree with everything. You just said the game. Right i have. Yeah you speaking on it. Like jerry springer editions okay. I ain't got no additional touching. Let's i'll be all the sheets. And i'm sitting here going to lean back on that one facing year. That was interesting. I'm not cosigning you oh about about us right. Well she's eight. What was my question about his music. I'm telling you he said no. I was not talking about this anyway. So my top three most memorable going to take into twenty twenty with me. Little narcotics is going to be is definitely the nas album because to really create what he did. After all these years and really relate to so many people that's fine and really relate to so many people sneezed is different. It's like we always complain about hip hop maturing and if people don't get i gotta get him on point right so we gotta talk. I know it's fine to really understand where it's going as a culture we need to have that range Oh really dope quality music from emcees. Who are knocking on. If in all the way down to in eighteen's it's really. This is what the coach is about. This is what the progression that we wanted to seek. Y'all know what i'd do. Let me bring it back. Real quick hold on. I talked to a lot of teams. You lose the use. Them and i talk to. People are generation even older. And the thing that i've come to learn is we want the same thing from a culture that a lot of people think that we don't want right so the main key thing is they want people of the culture to keep representing a culture and keep pushing it forward and what that means is wonderful it if you were culture while culture forward if you will it's really about them understanding our impact and how we empowered those in our communities locally in also globally. So that's really what i'm about for. Twenty twenty one. I'm really about empowering and impacting those who really need to see the difference because that's the different sport so before sleep. Because i know about being a coach. I'm sorry i'm waiting for an invitation on. Hvac you like really. You know what. I want the the funny one of my goals is real. I wanna on very read from clark. Wow i do. Because i feel like i've given so much to their Student body meet. Let's listen you gotta let his live. You're listening listening. So you say who gave fifty million clause. You're talking about I'm not bill x. Amazon's yes she did so i'm not give to the student. By coach. Students told abc. So no. i really do not. Oh jokes aside. All jokes aside. We're not doing this. You're not doing almost all jokes aside also on wall. So i'm very appreciative of clock impotent. Yo you gotta relax around. This is why coins get shot at the time. Not because we've been part of the culture for a minute so anyway said you walked into that. I did ninety. You set up and ninety six. I ninety six. I got here. What is a lot of speaking of ninety-six have you seen of. Did you see the diverse. So so what i was saying. Chance using the great. Do listen. Shut club with coach out. There was different than the changes. You dan right because club what it was something else shining. Eagles eagles was a really cultural change. You know what i'm saying. It's a student body. No we're not doing that. So of competitors so. He was appreciative of eagles right. Like i know several students who would win ruto are you done. Are you done as a member it. Yes ima yes. See cracking sold out. Joe he's acu graduate An official member. I am not. I'm just an appreciative of it's so member penetration penetration and the coach. Oh you can't do that. You know. I'm i'm telling him see talk about so wait wait wait wait wait you talk about that. Met your wife to be in the band. Yeah so your whole life. it's really based off. its drumline. so you're gonna kiss one time in band camp. Listen microphone with the help. Only we only got four or five of them turned you you know came on his online eight to meet off in the building. Talk shit so please. Joe tell us about how you how i go joe. That is good. There's that whole thing. I love story. You know he's ready. What up as complicated as you can make it very simple so i stepped on the campus clark atlanta university to the illustrious clark atlanta university. Let me let me Pity step into the room and it was kind of it was definitely love. At first sight is her but she ignored so i kind of felt a little hurt because you know young kid on the drumline got game by want. Every everybody wants a piece of this era. Give the drummer some right about that. Now she was she was going down. Well she definitely ignored me so moving from that december two that fall she you know becomes germany. He on facebook not to like you know he'd never mind them. She was just wanting to know. Are you coming back to march. I was like i. I can tell you this like you know what's up tried to. I was like all right. We legacy you mischief. i. Yeah i'm coming back. The monitor come round fall. I mean the ban. You know doing my thing making sure that you know every saturday. There's not just entertainment but there's perfectly tame you know you just you just can't practice perfect because what you come on. Come on. let's go to. The man is talking about practice around the fourth game of the season. I decided like you know. I'm done playing in the background. Grace west. Make a move though is like are you going to make a move or not so. I decided after the game. I wanted to take her over to your zaki right there. There's a little leans powder by the kfc for those who have walked a. You know what. I'm talking about. So i'll take her over there and just chilling and then you know i was talking to and then we went to this club of destroy. It used to be a piece of joy. Janis piece now. It's something else right across cost. You miss charbonnet. Miss everything everything. Everything was on the rooftop party. And i'm speaking. I usually potter wondering but she says she was so impressed. That night how eloquent. I was not going back. Not gonna lie she. She lied. how maintain. My composure failed in the. Nfc was fail. What did you. How did you move the ball. But she say everything was fine but it was just that was so while learn. Sometimes even though when you take a ale which you're going to do. Are you going to stand on the sidelines or like ako me banking and how does your double back. So i waited until the last game of the now we will get into some five multifaceted. I'm alright we season so now. I'm just chilling. What team you know. Shots alanna hawks tonight. I wanna thank you okay. You said esotique atlanta wounds. Today is a respect you. I respect heart. Just don't say the falcons and we started kept on topic because this is a love story into making. I need to hear the end of this so she. I take i in practice and i went. Suppose foam y'all got got. I said hawes game. Do you wanna go. She waited for a while before. When i saw on and she read the message. I'm like i'm not gonna read into the reaction. I need to see what she She was like sure. I'll go. can i go to my room change. I walk into a room. she changed. We go to the game. We get to the game now from when to the game. Whatever happened. I was like a chain. Coach is not a real time greats wet. We go silly on. I haven't served being. I was okay. The basketball wait a minute sir. So happens night. They're retiring matombo. Wow you get there. I'm just going according to wrapping up. He she lavishes feeling time. I got her back tournament. I went home three weeks later. I asked the central interest. We had a picnic davidge auditory. I'm telling myself so. Give me clark given a blueprint is. That's the we had a picnic inside davidge auditory on the on the top floor. I wrote a poem the night before and ready to go home. You will allow the ones. It might ruin the game. But i had to go big when i was in the tom. I didn't have no game plan. She don't see me on the drumline said what she did for me. She needed to go deeper. That i'm sorry what you just can't go ahead you just can't beat that pushing and shoving you've got to get back to the story. She wants more potential. So what it was wasn't that i was on the she wanted. She wanted to see me for l. So you're saying with certain chicks or certain. Would you have to try up becker. Way movement six females hers correct third lady queens with certain. Yes they have to try your they see what you want but they wanna see who you are inside of those four walls naturally the so. Nobody's around. you're not putting on that. I was gonna go deep. She she pulled out the best of me so i pull the untapped potential. I i know. I haven't i wasn't losing out. She pulled me out of me. And i was able to see this month to it was just. It was just like i ask her to be my lady later orange she was like how later on did you wait the same day after the picnic. Okay i want you to be my lady. I like your bob. I like what you pull out now. I can do it because i see you. You are not just the drumline. I see jodi so he was shot rivers. Wait a minute wait back in your slick. sometimes not. i'm still hit with like out. What's your favorite color. Come home cheese on puns. I can't do that no more. I gotta come out with a whole own cheeseburger. You're welcome and i had to make her name fifteen times cool to have their bag with what happens when nothing in the bag. Talk to them. How are you limited to your bag. Or can you be universal. What do you mean by bag. Like goto lonzo baggage. Thanks you must be running on. But everybody has their goal to go to fit. Everybody has a hat. let's grab hold on. Let's stop right because you make a stop doing it. you're married. you're not only brother in god guy. I just realize that. So before josh. J. fresh before you got married and doing your thing right. We have a goal to line. I did go to live not to give it away. we need. it wasn't necessarily a line. I was reached naturally. I'm naturally for flirtatious person okay. I'm naturally flirtatious pants. So yes own. I know you wanna go to nestle flirtatious person. So i would feed into whatever makes them laugh. I felt like i knew what made them laugh. I just continued pushing that. but gotcha. that's just what it was so you still haven't said what was your line. Whatever lower work literally if he made me laugh. Feeder made you laugh. I'm going forward. Do that lies literally. I would do crazy stuff just like that crazy stuff just like if it made them laugh i keep going and if i kept going i hit the button. That's it that's it. I hit the button. So i would just say outlandish stuff and then hit the button. That didn't work with julie Okay we're going back to that. Will you william eight. What was your go-to line. I don't have time. So what did you do to make your normal. Get your attention to where you need to be. I'm trying to say this. Generous wave ought to greece. queens grace. Even saying i'll be one. Three swiss wonder insignificance. He was saying that the whole time. Gray switz- okay. So it was the fear that awkward. No i won't anything. We always bring us up on. Authenticity is what is what to me. Gets doing that tunnel to. I'll let you run will give a second. This is somebody you light lag on his. Now if it's gonna just keep the band somebody that what we're trying to accomplish this mission but then it's gonna let me let me give a little bit of 'cause not everybody gets the same treatment perspective. Okay you don't know her never met before you're out at all right. So what is your goal to move to make sure you get her attention. Understand the understand. Go to move it so retarded to me. I i just think is is sincerity and talking that. that's it. People always the ohio. Meet her how you told her. I said hi what's up. That was it no. I think i think it's you. It's your personality what you bring to hire you love. Your parents olivet. Shouldn't matter the woman reality is what she wanted what she wants to do what you or what. She's not going do what you within super early on way before you know with verse two minutes look at you know party seconds know you want these. Nope no no. That's a and i. It may not be on her face. She may not say it how on nipples talking anyway. So i'm just trying to say like like you were saying like you were saying i got rejected before i got here. She knew from your wife protective roof. Yeah same. I got so. I cannot talk i never. I never really talked to her. I mean we worked at the same job. We worked at red lobster. She's bartender. i'm a savory. She's the only reason the only reason our ever have to have a conversation with her. It was because i had to ring up. You got a lot opportunities. What i'm hearing a lot of opportunities but now is too hung up on my own. Can i get a six. The ball on the beach. I was i was too. I was too hung up on my past relationship nationally. Give her a shot so she was. She was just speaking out loud. She was just like man. I need to go home and get a drink was like we'll friends. Don't let friends drink alone there. You go now. She was like nah by and use. My rejection rejection rejection awesome. Virginia listen fellas so wait a minute wait a minute. Wait a minute. I didn't stop no look. I didn't stop gas. I didn't stop so so her. Name's joy right. So every time i ring up a drink i'll be like. Oh what a joyous occasion. How are you today joy. How joyful is joy today. It finally got on a nervous and finally she was just like. What are you doing later on. And i was like. Will we work together. So i can't take you out. You have to transfer not for me to take you out what i don't light on. I don't like to shit where i eat. Okay nana i'll like do that because that's messy if we were to break up next thing you know. I'm over here trying to work. And then she over here trying to do some crazy so trump next So she did have to transfer Later on because she lived tomorrow. I'm over here in duluth. That just wasn't been so. she transfer. I took her out tgi. Fridays y'all follow the rules. I don't know how to follow rules. Breath waste way. I mean the only reason she followed the rules was because she was in a situation herself and ship situation show situation. If you in a situation ship look until your readily available. I want nothing to do which probably learn. I mean that's luke their brothers learn but disciplined casino until you until you available. I don't want nothing to do with you. Because i don't want to be put into that situation. I don't want to be put into a situation to where next thing you know. I'm getting a call. Hey he kicked me out my house. Can you come save me so now. I'm the rebound to rebuild. Not the hero. That ain't hero rebound. Let me let me put you on both. I know what i'm doing. So between the euro and rebound. Okay if she strived on she got a flat tire and she you the first. She called aaa project. You are to hear you. You are the hero. Give a situation happens right you on the phone. You're asking so windy happened. If she gives you the timeframe between tom she called you and then the time having his thirty minute you would rebound that neither was several other people in front of you. She called for. She called you and the reason why she called. You know you her bottom dollar you're gonna say yes regardless sunk in a different option before she called dollar for because if she called you immediately you are hero but if she had time in between whatever happened to you do all the rebound know the difference. I'm proud of my youngest. Don't know the difference rebound guys. You'll get suckered into anything that she was the first one she called you betta ass. Be like you'll win it this happy and if she stumped stumbling stuttering take it for what it is. Because i'm don't tell them they need to know if you'll hear all she called you first situation. I want somebody that's going to save me right away. It ain't going to be no struggle. It may be a combination those struggle if she had time to call me. Rebound i'm not the euro. I'm a. I'm a i'm a cleveland. Namesake on that set out to joel now. When i see that they get mad but listen brother. Know the difference. Man salute that Anything else to add to that. I have nothing assisted. Said you'll rebound both ways Man we need to have stacey on the show. One way i feel because i instead of calling a negative but then on to be fair game if she called you for a nigga. Don't take it as you. The rebound she can call him. Wash called you self situation ship so you sound like i'm just on like over as you have somebody at home or somebody use a post to call. Didn't why because you know between y'all tune steve. Instead what you call. I was going to handle the situation before i had but i still feel like a hero. I feel like i feel like i'm still look because what she's saying. You will rebound because she usually roach and go where she got to go against what wherever she going is not but are you to rebound to amid shot rebound. I'm not a mission at all. She called me because she know the situation. So it's a rebound to a bank. Guess what the the situation for you on your side. It's all it's all. Her is still a song even though she still got not gonna hold you. Let's reset the room people. That's reasonable request. Joe how old union. Twenty eight twenty is j. Fresh you get twenty. Eight twenty one. Yeah everybody frantic walking like this is why was as being because i a lot of questions from his age about a lot of things with life and things like that. So this kind of in-depth knowledge. Y'all really putting a lot of out there for free which we need to talk about later. Stop doing this patriot page you. Can you can submit underscored that. We're going to do it right if we can do that. Because i really appreciate you soon. That information because me being at the tender age of sixty five. It's just difference out here. You're saying it's home. Thank you try to do what. I can't so just ahead of that because i get a lot of young. I don't know what you're saying. They don't get it they don't get it at all and they don't see designs so appreciate anyway. I was trying to be cute but it is not working right anyway. So i appreciate out saying that a really speaking truth about it And it's funny that we're doing at the end it's one torn everything else again through and we're still speaking a question you know. I know what i said. Learn what did you learn. What did you want to take away my takeaway. I'm beyond officer ahead so my takeaway from twenty twenty. I'm gonna just be honest with like a lot of things that you learn. I learned that my tomorrow is today. Okay if you haven't learned anything in two thousand twenty note that the when you open your eyes received this gift of living another day. The same twenty four hours at a given to everyone on his Openness is all those people that want to say. I'm gonna do it tomorrow. You're wasting your twenty four hours. Your tomorrow is today. Because what you do today sets up your tomorrow I just want people to take away. Stop saying tomorrow. I'm a door tomorrow. All get it done tomorrow or i can do this today. Finish tomorrow do all you can today. So when you lay down you know that win tomorrow happens even if it if awarded to you because it's never promise right if you do all you can today. Not tomorrow is already brighter. I'ma wash the dishes tomorrow. We'll be washing tonight. Part of your day is done tomorrow. You can feel that sixty seconds with something you know protected or something positive and do something else with that instead of wasting your time in front of the scene tomorrow is today. set it up. Set your today to be a better tomorrow. See this is why. His name is joe because my middle name is joanne. Sometimes you just really anyway more relaxed. So this is my thing for those let-let's let's double down on that right. And it's it's amazing me easy to say things like that and i believe everything that you said so for those of us in the internet world. Okay muffled for those of us who don't know how to make that happen. What would be your advice to them. Because i know what i would say but i want to hear this from the voice of somebody under thirty five. My my advice is how to make it happen is what i'm saying my thing i have a lot of. They have a lotta doubt. Twenty twenty has nothing else has created. Doubts gotcha so go ahead with so with all of that doubt how to make that happen. Take your baby. You open your eyes. Boom you have another twenty four you raise yourself out of the big step to because that's that'd be hard for anybody. You can't see yourself doing anything positive. You're not gonna get out of bed. You're already winning. Because you gotta be fat three even if you have nothing else to list after you gotta be find something to do because the minute you find one thing to do. Your brain is start working. I did this. i did this. Whatever that's called an avalanche fake ones that little small rockstars collecting snow. It becomes a huge boulder. So have you ever had out. Don't be afraid without because all heroes. They weren't a hero into they had something to fear Well let me tell you about fear if you never are able to see if you're never able to see the mountain if you're never able to see the mountain you can't be afraid to scale if you receive what you're afraid of you can never fear. That's real can't give it up until you fall. Just get out of the bill all right. So can i talk to something that's That was no hold on. Let me salute that the right. This is my response to that. Because i agree with everything you said. It was amazing. But for somebody like myself i just don't believe in cliches and somebody home not me. Maybe like that sounds like a cliche. How can you really integrate to them to say. Hey this is what we're talking about. This is how we make it real for you. I want you to go deeper. It's what i want to get rid get rid of the procrastination at the end of the daddy. You get rid of the procrastination. You take steps to get rid of it away. What's up knowing j. Procrastination is nothing but laziness at the ended today. Procrastination is nothing but laziness so in order for an order for you to get rid of if you have ten things to do today right and you've only done to. That's that's still a win but at the end of the day you can still get that third thing done. You can still get the third thing done if you got two things done and the first two were big task. That third thing can still be done before you leave. Let me lay the risk. It'd be dig deep then so two out of ten we got done. What is it gonna take. What can you tell me to say. You know what. I could get one more thing. What is it. What do you tell yourself to say. Hey i can get one more thing done. I gotta motivate myself. And i gotta do self. How do you do that so basically after the last two things done i'll probably 'cause i know me i'll probably sit down and our grabbed the game controller and then i'll think about that last like oh thank you think about it back and grab that game controller and then i'll think about that last thing that i have to do and then i literally have to say if you get it done with. You don't have to do it tomorrow or motivation motivational. Because i don't wanna do it tomorrow. Okay i gotta. I gotta take honesty. Set out and make you real. I'm gonna just put the ball in your court if you can literally sit there with you on that sound like a cliche. What can i do to make you real. Take a look to your left and look to your right and tell me how many people you see next to you making happening which you all these dreams you keep ryan down but you keep saying i need a team. What you to make your team look to your left and look to the fact that you don't see nobody because of the mindset you have right now when you look to your eleven you look to your right. That's real life so if you wanted to see be real. Look look to your right. You see nothing and you have nothing because you're not doing anything so let me. Let me play to advocate on. I'm going to say the word. They've been played advocate. Real quick. i want you to chime in on this too. When it comes to that part of it a lot of people come up with so many different excuses right. So how can you. How can we help them. That's what all about already know from what we do on the show. So how can you help them to say hey. This is only a portion of wits holding you back because there's another key isn't something else there and yellow yellow tapping on it. But i want to say and it's like yeah right there. The i'm figuring the best way to help someone is to. I wouldn't say like prioritize. Sit down and research the game. 'cause you know where the beginning is is where you are now. Okay so let me ask you them and stop you right there so for you personally. Your endgame looks like what personally my aim is. I want to be superintendent in the school system. I grew up in. Because when i was sitting in those very season shot to atlanta public schools. Get when i was sitting in those seats as a young he always had questions of why we don't have this a why we don't have that and always use as myself. Who is going to change this. Every single question i had about. Who's going to change this. I looked at myself. And say why not mean so when i get in that see i'm gonna change those very things because i know what it took to survive what i didn't have so later on. I give what i didn't have to the future. That's going need it. 'cause if i didn't have it and i learned myself how to do it. What happens when i give it to them and they follow my bridge that i built them to make it easier. They're going to take what i gave them further the nba more successful. I like it a lot. It sounds like he is back. It's like somebody started a brand and this really embodied what you're saying message message a lot. Will william h coming from the hoods and the gangsters murderers capital of the world of coins. What do you have to act like the space l. unlikely operating it. i don't have. I don't have it and i i like it like i don't really i think more than anything. I'm coach rice with up. I'm more impressed in. just happy. That more of us a starting to see things on a on a broader scale I think for too long. And even now today some of us are so pigeonholed and what we can and cannot be what we can and cannot do when everything is us like the world is yours. You know what i mean like. It's it's whatever you want. It's it's your choice to me. It is no limitations only limitations you have once you put putting yourself that is there is nothing you cannot accomplish nothing. You cannot do like get as reasons i tell you. What time will always exclusively reason. Yeah excuses the one thing What's the difference was row. I can make a trillion excuses. Well give me two right now to excuses tie. That is a real one. That's the main that's the main who let me tell you the reality is. You don't need to sleep that much Don't need that much sleep. How much sleep gay right now. On average them no four four hours. How you feel after that after the hours. But after i gave you enough to give going again. That's the listen after four hours and you really accomplish some enough to get going. Got them for us. Because you were working or work you will up doing something to accomplish the goal that you have in mind you know. I mean that's sleep is different so yeah it's just like this working is work unless you're doing something you love. You go is not work. If you're doing something you love right so like if. If if the thing i love is making me loosely. You can live with that likes. I'm tired but i might. I love what i'm doing. Remain like so this. Just that in mind more than anything i just. I'm just aunt at. I'm so excited about the future for just everybody. You know what i mean. I look at you look at fresh look at like. I'm just like you know go now. There's something that listen you. Don't take much barium. Listen like so when. I see it on my now like that. I i like. I like the wear sound. I sound good. You know we talk all the time. So i like no no no no no no no. That's it that's just stay focused. Your don't just all the cliches. It might say a sound good but it really is way more simplistic than any of us. Think if you in you it ain't nowhere else is in you you got it. We make sure i tell you. Come back to that. What is title makes you look at tidal. Look at me but anyway Everything else aside. This is why i talked to him. My original this is why the original goal of why we started pause for applause. It wasn't just about like we crack jokes like this all the time. This is like we're being politically correct right now. Hard to believe. So all of that to say it's I recognize how influence not just people but communities and even more than just communities. It's really about creating solutions for those communities and people like what are you talking about it. And i'm getting some. Kgan legacy stuff. I try not to because that's a whole nother thing but when we talk about this and when i asked questions from joe when asked these questions from j. fresh i want different aspects so that the people can hear what we really about because everything else out there is not what it's about clubhouse or other things going on with the club's majority a majority there's some perspectives on those that we can all gain from but i want them to hear from you in how you've gained and how you guys are building your family's at young ages because the you know the narrative out there right now is your ain't nobody atlanta getting married in may not doing nothing and you guys are the complete contrary to that. That's why i want you to speak about. How did it happen. How did you get to that point. So that's why i ask those questions. You know what i'm saying. What did you do because to me. Which also y'all do it. No i had a goal from. I had a goal when i was sixteen years old. I started to What was it going to sixteen. A sixteen actually was in eighth grade as an eighth grade. I had a goal to be a producer. Right get a nice condo and to get married in that order also with that anyway in that order literally in that order i had that goal and then sixteen a scaled down the condo and said i wanted to house so okay. So let's as that so. That was sixteen twenty now since twelve years ago. Where are you at with that plan. And we got to wrap up. I am a producer. I did get science. Major label. Yep and i got me. I'm working on the house now so you push it out there ready now. It's time for me to make some more life. Goals with does twenty twenty one pick gives me one goal for you for. Let's let's wrap it up like that look at me being host. Let's keep you go that you have for twenty twenty one. Twenty twenty one for yourself reaper. Marvis reaping hardwoods. That me you gotta dig deeper than that. You accept that like come on. I'm not doing it. Oh so basically all the seeds that i have sown this year as far as investments as far as Roberto pick one that you can speak to clearly okay is generic does not help anybody and a good father they been. That was beautiful. Joe on you get married getting me about that. June twentieth blankfein. Angela wearing wearing plan paid for. That's i wanna take away. Man is just to enrich my youth. somebody did it for me. So i'm going to somebody. S enriched him. that's it community raised me so i'm raised commute. You see why i love clark. This is why. I love seeing the be alumni culture. That's wonderful what i'm to stop playing these games. We to stop listening to listen. Listen i was the don't like so you'll listen go ahead. I don't even know what the wisher twenty twenty one goal. Pick one depending on. How you want to be is so true. No big one. That's what made it easy. I don't think it's just one facet all right. I want to. I want him to do again. What i'm you're gonna sound cliche. But i want to be a better man. He going Way in what way in all of them. By the way i carry myself we are walked away. Talk impression people get from me when around me and not just a facade or the show that i can put on somebody that just pretend shuck and jive on do that shit. I just don't but just what i say i am. I what i say. I am what i say i do. I do when i stand on this fall as morals and ethics and everything else is meat. It's not nothing else this day or this day. Now it's going to be the same as today as it is on wednesday as it is on friday next week the next day. It's going to be in those core principles and just make sure. Because i ain't gonna lie is easy to fall out of character in this life. It just is man. This situation takes him. I came a long way. And i never been goumba sucker. Tell the story so we got. There are times when people try to they. They make me forget that i am not trying to be a better person and might say or do something and my first reaction is the word it ain't it ain't it ain't the right reaction well. I'm trying to get to where i came from. You know what i mean. So i the struggle of getting from that to where i am now and just to maintain that you normally. That's not an easy task in. This is something. I deal with every single day but i'm just. I'm happy at the progress that i made. But i know i don okay. So let's let's take another minute and a half we've got i do. I'm aware of that. So should have been on him starving so with that being said and with those challenges that you deal with internally what is it that helps you to stay on track of where you want to go where you want to be as a person as a human what is it that keeps you on track with that too instead of divert it somewhere else. It's it's my children. I think more than anything is the biggest influence. Because i want the example as i alluded to earlier. I want to be the example. Normally i don't want to have to look somewhere else for the example of what should it shouldn't be and daughter. Look at my son. He is going to be a black man So him to look at this black man n. Be like nah. That's how i'm supposed to be. That's the principles i needed. Allow myself with. That's how i need to carry myself. That's how i need to act. And that's how i need to take care of mine when i look at my daughter. I want her to see that type of man. I should be with tight. Man i wanna i wanna marry i wanna be with with those principles and those ideals and all those things so when i look at them and i want to maybe do the other thing that i may have done in the past. I say you know something. That's not it that's not the well. I can't top that one i mean i could but no i can't i really can't jokes aside So yeah i think that's it for us. That's it for paused for applause podcasts. Twenty twenty one. Yeah year want what officially like listen. We've been we've been trying to just as sweeping chucking you. I can't wait to. She hit a lost tapes of doing that would listen. They hit a audio versions of how bad the qualities listen anyway so we're gonna see l. in Twenty twenty one happy new year. Happy happy happy new year shit on the j. fresh out to joe shot to oxford. You'll appreciate show listen. It's not just me saying that. Made the show today. non did ask him your own. It's it's a lot of energy. 'cause i my mouth all day long. No i don't need y'all hear that podcast is coming in two thousand twenty or not you talk about authenticity. Some public speak. I should i should talk. You should use it and just like really coach people and just help them about personal and professional life coach. Use that word poison. That word live disciplinary. Like that even better anyway. Culture forward yes that is well that is well the thing about excellent aware what let me say this and we can close out go when it comes to the next year first. Quarter second quarter third. Quarter what i want us. Do i want you out of doom and yellow ribbon on this. Is what this out of tolkien speaking here. It's about the umbrella of what your purpose is supposed to be. So when you joe. I'm talking to j fresh. I'm talking to you will. It's it's so much deeper than just how early we talk about these jokes and things like that. It's really embodying what you are doing. Really just taking it to another level because everything that we want everything that y'all want everything that you want for your family's it's right here is like when you talk about allieu. You took my james harden coming in showing up out of shape chubby jason j.j. The point of it is and was going that. Cj chubby james. Sorry fazal day boy. What i'm saying. He police shirts and skins jeans shirts. 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Fresh had him and his beautiful wife are expecting a girl february february february january seventeen. So what are we going to do with twenty eighth right. She's coming here so we're going to do is before she gets here is. We're gonna do a whole girl that episode. I like it. And i'm happy. We're going to have some callings from people who understand that aspect of it. Because i remember it's like i said my daughter's eighteen point seventy five years old. Your door is eight years old point. Eight point four. Eight point eight years old of soda newborns different and i got some stories to tell also we make the happy. You're not gonna like him. Don't know i'm just saying so. It is very much needed with that so anyway. That's coming january. Twenty twenty one third season. We're kicking off mid february. We will have in person guests so sat out to all yahoo been with us on instagram on my personal instagram stroz. Listen rose you see you see you out. You should wait a minute. 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"The Crown: Staffel 4" und "Mandalorian"

Serienweise - Der Serien Podcast

1:03:41 hr | 6 months ago

"The Crown: Staffel 4" und "Mandalorian"

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The Big Suey: It's A Dirty Game

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

30:31 min | 7 months ago

The Big Suey: It's A Dirty Game

"Really. Being honest about. Just A. Piece of. A bald, Eagles, a podcast exclusive that none of our bosses asked for more sports more work. Less pain I haven't stopped talking in a month or. Just when you thought this show couldn't be more diluted. Blast time I listen to this show. I haven't listened for years now. Here's the marching band to no way. What am I missing the end of the story that Phase Chris Phallic It's FA- LICO. The Penis Samba habitual liar aspirin. For All of the Big Souille I'm Chris Cody Be. ESPN. Those of you who do not know Bomani, Jones was a music critic before he became an expert at this stuff that we do around here and I love to go to him on all music related stuff and I was reading some stories advice and this is something that has plagued the music industry forever I was reading some stuff being done by vice in terms of investigation and reporting about just the music industry and how it. Is plagued by racism and rights and royalties So Bomani I guess I would start here. I. Don't know if you've read the the pieces that I'm talking about specifically as it relates to what the music industry has done. No one has done black people or an entertainment than the music industry has is, is there a precedent for anything else doing it as poorly as that? Well I mean there's the agriculture industry this country we can. We can throw them out there. They did. They gave us a bad run in this. See here's the thing that makes it tricky with. When you start talking about this with the music industry specific to raise dependent upon what kind of hustle you're talking about right because the music industry hustles everybody like I'm trying to remember what the line was keyed. Rigid has by how many millions of dollars were the lesson that everybody has to learn when they first come in and as I recall the story on how to rolling stones who don't have the rights to any of the stuff before nine, hundred, seventy rights all your job jumping Jack Flash and all that stuff they ain't got that Allen Klein who famously robbed all kinds of musicians through his time the hustle that he ran on him as I recall it was. The Rolling Stones had a company called Rolling Stones. Ltd Right. You know British Virgin of. Corporate. Business Ltd.. Klein got them to sign paperwork for Rolling Stones Inc.. He owned rolling stones. And thereby he wound up getting the money for the stuff. So you remember when the stones sued. The verve for a bittersweet deafening. It wasn't the stones that were doing the suing it was Allen Klein on behalf of the rolling stones because he owned the song that they sampled in order to get. Black people also have famously been the ones to rob black people. I was reading a book on this year Berry Gordy biography and Motown was famous for getting people on these bad deals. But the counter argument that Gordon made was that we use as the template for our contracts, the same contracts that everybody else in the industry was using. And so the way the music game works is they're selling dreams, and so they get people and they're like, Hey, man especially, you know back when a record contract something different and I a man here we are offering you a record contract with sounds so cool and you're typically doing with people under the age of twenty two like, Hey, man, we're off you the deal why don't you go ahead and sign it? Well, I'd like to get an agent to look at it well, if you get a lawyer to. Look at it. Well, if you get a lawyer to look at it, we're gonNA pull the deal and so people feel like this is going to be their one chance and then boom all of a sudden they wind up trapped in these deals like boxing right like boxes in the same situation where there's all this money at play all these crooks who are ultimately behind the deal because in so many cases the people that run game in boxing like the same type of people in some cases the same exact. As the ones that are run game and music, and so black people wind up being at the bottom of it generally because we wind up at the bottom of everything, but everybody tends to wind up at the bottom of the music industry. What is far less likely to happen though for black people is you know as somebody who might be able to help you out on the front right? Like you know in the person to look over your paperwork and see if he's GonNa be alright you'll you know on the person here with his people are just looking for a ticket especially with musicians it's always is the idea that I can had. It may because what they want more than being rich. is to be stars. And a SELIMO being stars do you have an example? You just gave us a great one but another example of a musician being wronged in a way that echoes for you either historically or laughter you're like man that is super brazen because I had not heard that story on the rolling stones and going from. that. Is that is cold man going from rolling stones. Ltd was it. To Roller Salt into thing about it is. It's such an easy mistake to make. Of course, I'd signed papers that Said Rolling Stone Inc.. That's what they meant. Is it that meant? Yeah. Like what's the difference right? Like? That's the way that they're looking at it is like Yo. So what is the difference into them? There isn't a difference, right? I'm looking at it right now. Is. We are still awaiting funds funds in order to settle they tax debt right now do overdue a respect to the past renumeration were only stones. Ltd. but it wasn't about Ltd no more buddy and I. Just wasn't what it is. I'm trying to think if there's another like famously good one by one that just jumps out where you're just like Oh. My God I can't believe you did that because there are so many of them and so many people have gotten got in. So many ways almost winds. It'll be a wildly ironic because very often people that wind to get them. They ended up being broke them sell was the highly questionable interview that we did that was It was an artist talking about just bringing a bag of money to the studio just bringing this just bringing a paper bag with some I can't remember who that was that we did that with but that which industry's worse to you think boxing or music like intern the. Crooks running the thing yeah. I think it's boxing 'cause I think boxing a boxing attracts more crooks and be you are more likely to come across somebody in the music industry who halfway knows something about it. Then you are with the boxes right? Like there is a book called everything you need to know about the music industry I have never heard about that book everything you need to know about the boxing industry. Go learn how to fight. Craig Craig Carton is back evidently at Wfan. He put people in a bad spot Pomona just wanted to talk to you about the industry and some of the things that happened here because I don't believe that a black dude with the resume of Craig Carton gets back into the business or maybe even get to shot at all. But if you don't know any of this story and this is felt sleazy from the start. So he goes to prison because he's got a gambling problem and he was mismanaging funds, he ends up going to prison and when he comes out of prison, he works with the people making his HBO documentary. Grants? them access. Grants them. The story but the story was a little too soft on Craig Kardon. It wasn't a documentary you would have seen normally by HBO had been independent and hadn't been in bed with the people making the movie and so I when you hear the news is somebody you're obviously so much better at this than the grand majority of people to have ever done it. When you see a guy like Craig, carton get an opportunity again after a felony when you lost how many jobs along the path even as good as you are at this, it makes you feel what? Well, even before I got to like how I felt about just this industry generally who treats what ways, right? The Dude. went to the Bangor right and it's all soft play like it was almost soft play when he went into it just kind of like Oh wow. Look that guy winds up going to prison isn't that you know is it this thing and then I don't understand the need to give him the benefit of the doubt on the way out and the reason I don't understand the need to give them. The benefit of the doubt is look I get the idea and I don't really have a problem with him getting his job back because people will listen to him right like the bottom line on. It is the audience doesn't really care they. He got caught in this way I don't know what level of convincing a level of contrition he was required to show in order to get back. That's thing black. We always gotta get down to show every lesson. We learn how sorry we are and everything else and know he had to go through that shame tour. It doesn't sound like he was forced to do that before the people at the company I get it they just looking at it like okay. Cool. Well, we're going to list the people going to listen to this guy we go and get some sales. So they'll bring them back out here, and if wfan wants to do that that's fine I understand cynically why it is that they would do it. Well, I don't get is everybody else that makes these random decisions about when they want to put their foot down about some level of morality just acting like this normal like it's not it's it's absolutely one hundred percent not normal that this is the play that they're making. This is something that he could get away with an even if he can get away with it, we don't have to act like it's cool right? We don't have to act like it's anything if we want to be matter of fact about it'd. Be Like Hey credit card is back. We'll. We don't have to do is run some documentary about his return I just I. Just I mean is even really that interesting or compelling like I personally have never consumed his work. So I don't even know well, the reason the reason that it's appalling to me okay and Stugatz who knows radio tells me he's good at radio but what they showed in that documentary of his work made me think it was very lowest common denominator. It wasn't clever. It was high energy I. Didn't look at that. He did make boomer esiason part of a successful show and maybe in New York this plays the bombastic shock Jock personality but I. I didn't see I mean it's so low. It was low brow. What I was listening to didn't have the range to go high it was low choke. Zero in the playoffs like it just wasn't to me. It wasn't i. didn't see the great talent there. But then again, though the demo in this man radio's bad at this money radio, you are excellent. Objectively excellent at doing radio. Radio. The audiences have found you but management has supported you. Know, they'll go for this guy and the reason that they'll go for this guy is they believe that the audience wants that guy 'cause like what you're describing to be about him and what they were doing with this is and sounds like they were doing a Mike Francesa and Chris Russo sort of thing, right at least that's what it sounds like. It was a little barking dog around the credibility of the former MVP NFL quarterback. Yeah. So here's the thing I always say about Chris Russo and I don't mean this as any sort of insult to Chris Russo. Character that he has played over the years on the radio, absolutely a character and with that voice with the expectations and everything else. They put that dude on the MLB network right and that's not to say that he is not knowledgeable enough to talk about baseball or any of those things. But can you imagine a black person that is basically the Black Chris Russo put in a position to be taken seriously because I don't feel Rousseau's on MLB network that he's there being mad dog like he is they're being Chris Russo person they you should listen to about baseball right and so I don't know how hard it. is to find that like oddball type character on your radio show. So for example, stugatz is a fascinating Unicorn there's literally only one of those I don't feel like is that hard to find one of those other guys it might be hard to find somebody who pairs right with the straight man Adrabbuh have in place. But from here I don't feel like it's that or to find that guy but they hold on tool once they get one like once they decided they wanted they like. Then they go. Ride Dude all the way to the finish line and yeah. I've had my issues in various places management in places where I had numbers in places where I've looked up and seen that other people did not have numbers and we're getting a level of support from the folks in charge that I would never get an I can never tell with radio program people at this point how much of it is them and how much of it is how little they think of their audiences ability to listen to something. That is quote unquote different because I've worked at one place where they always wanted to keep telling me was we like you bullet right like that was always there game in the way they talked about it is like we like you but and I'm like. So where does this pulse that you have on all these other people that ain't the pulse that they have on the other people? It's somebody else that works in an office who somehow is making a call I got people to story all the time. I got a radio job once where they didn't put out a press release. When I got the job right, they made the decision that they wanted me to host a fairly significant day part and I kept asking for like two months like are you guys GonNa put out a press release because this is what you do and you told me you were GONNA put out a press release. Did you guys put out a press release and at some point they're like? We just don't think we're GONNA do that. Now why would you not put out a press release was something new just generally speaking no matter what it is you would put out a press release for something new just to let people know that that thing is there and I think they were just afraid to do it right like I think that they were just afraid to tell people that they had made this decision that they were going to bring beyond the guy who decided to bring beyond the guy who made the press release decision to different people and they were afraid of it to show turned out to be wildly successful, and then once I found out the show was successful. They, didn't want me to work there anymore. You know what? I mean I've always thought though I've always assumed that it is management that it is not management underestimating their audience, its management in having no cultural or and this one's important generational link to who it is was rocking with you because young white people were flocking to you but I don't think management has much in common with even them yet but they also didn't understand that. Middle aged white dudes will come into where I was also, and that was actually something that I had to come to get a better grasp of because wants I remember I was doing a show in North Carolina and I don't remember how rush limbaugh came into our sports world at this particular time. But it was some overlap and I did show that was from ten to one in Russia's offer twelve to three and I was talking about. Like look I. GotTa be honest when I talk about this I think said something to the effect of saying that I was preaching to the choir because I'm like there's nobody I mean who's listening to this there's being going to listen to rush limbaugh and phone lines lit up with people to let me know like at twelve they go to rush like they ain't GonNa, take me over us they're like, no, we listen to this and then We go listen to this stuff like they don't believe that like. So if you've got a middle aged, why do work at one of these stations and he is made uncomfortable by me, he is then going to project and assume that all of his friends are going to be made uncomfortable by me misunderstanding that the point of radio was not to make people like you but to make people listen to you and even the people who despise me. Will listening in every day. Let's switch topics here because they're number of things I wanted to get to with you the Miami heat find themselves in an uncomfortable position I. Believe Micky Arison had to write a letter to Chris Paul apologizing him because there were promises made by the NBA about what these players would get if they returned for a season and the Miami he tried to get in their building of voting booth and voting in general they went to great lengths they asked the city in fact, they said to the city hey, can you show us if you're asking other people for this list of demands they wanted things taken down at the arena, the heat complied with everything and yet still in a political move. In a way that feels like voter suppression a Republican mayor here decided to make it a little more difficult to vote and I real democratic areas. So I ask you your history of knowledge with voter suppression where are you when you see something like this happened because over the years you have seen and you have read about this country having a long history of voter suppression that is usually as obvious as this is yet like you just have to stop and think about the fact that this country. Does Not make it easy to vote. By why would you ever do that? It'd be like if you claim to be a democracy as we do then the last thing that you should ever be doing is trying to make it difficult to vote who the people are that less likely to vote as the difficulty increases is where this becomes a thing and it's the people that they've always tried to stop from voting like the thing. I. Think that people don't think about enough very often when we talk about voter suppression is voter suppression is like since seventeen eighty nine. Right it's it's been the way of America from the very beginning, and so then every time somebody puts out some kind of law that is in place to make it easier for folks to vote. Then they come back around again on the backside and figure out how to make it harder a find a disqualifying factor for you as to why it is that you cannot vote and so the NBA did this thing and they got a lot of those arenas to be put into use in that became like that's. A big deal is a lot of these cities like Houston, for example, where they made it very, very difficult for people to vote using the arena is a very big deal. Atlanta it is. You know where you saw all the internet, all those crazy long lines. There weren't long lines to stay fall marina. They found a way to get people in and out in that state is swinging in a way that he was never swung before. So these things wind up being huge they're trying to do that but I don't. I don't think that people understand point that I've made before. Then I'll never forgive from graduate school. I was taking a class, a comparative institutions, Politics Class, and they had this index setup for levels of democracy, right? So on one end up neighbor sure which country is high toward the Scandinavian countries, all the way to one in and all the way to the other end was North Korea right as a span and I forget where exactly the United States fell on that but they made a very important point in that book that I'll always remember which was the United States has only been a democracy says nine, hundred, sixty, five. The voting, rights act of nineteen sixty five is the first time that America became democracy and I'm you George Jordan me the other day When you had mentioned that because I had not heard, it expressed that way that until you give a black people, not three fifths the entire right to vote you don't become a democracy I had never heard it expressed that way either until you said it well think about it. Now, the teeth of the voting rights act have been completely removed. Through the courts shelby versus holder they took the teeth out which raises the question. By these academic measures, where does the United States now fall when we start talking about what is and is not a democracy and given all the things that we've seen happen in this election the folks ain't going give up just because they lost is okay. So what's going to happen next like what's coming around Pike on all of these things and so the one thing that people in this country have always really felt like they were able to brag about. Relative to the rest of the world was democracy like that's the thing that we hold onto his democracy democracy democracy. We ain't never really bought into democracy and ways that we have said and doing little things like that like saying, you gotTa go to the museum rather than going to the arena you and I talked about this. The problem I had with that as I imagined that the museum is probably a pretty good site to do this from you know. It's right. It's right next to the arena. It's just very a lot fewer people know where it is. That's us. That's my thing I. Don't know how to get to I. Know that museum, but I don't know how to get to it. I would bet the only thing in Miami that everybody knows how to get to is that a re- It's a bit infuriating. I don't know what corrects it. I don't know what you think is an actual policy that would move the needle on systemic racism I mean reparations like what is an actual political policy that Bomani Jones could get behind Canard Ticu late code that that he believes what actually move the needle even a hiccup on what is our country's institutional racism well, I mean reparations would go a long way and the point I like to make for people about reparations is this country has not had a problem in its history. Paying reparations it's a problem paying reparations to US pay raises the Japanese folks that are in the interment camps they pay reparations to native American groups They don't like pay reparations to us for whatever reason we don't want people realize Oh hold on now that's going a little bit too far maybe Gill too strong I don't know perhaps that would wind up being a star, but the thing about political solutions is I was talking to somebody about this yesterday and is actually something I learned in that same institutions course I was talking about. We have what is a consensus form of government here in this country, right? It is designed to stop drastic change. By you can have some changes, but it set up in a way that is institutionally engineered to prevent drastic change. Just get into fairness would require there be drastic change and this game is not built for there to be a drastic change. Right this game is built for centrism. That's that's what the design is. The thing that's happened in the last few years that those people off and why it's so jarring some people what they've seen really in the last four years is deviation from what most of us would consider to be centrist like. Crazy. Ways that we have to try to both sides things in order to create the illusion essentially in two thousand twenty is really there. But we try. We try because that's what we even if we don't explicitly know that is what we know when our heads in our minds is what this is supposed to be as a little bit for you a little bit for me. Whatever it is he says I figured out and was like we don't have to do this. You know that right? Right. It's GONNA require us to in some. Ways cheat or in some ways, run this game, run the system in a way that it is not supposed to think we learned from trump if nothing else was our political system operates and is powered by a series of norms and what happens if somebody just comes in is like okay well, I'm not doing it but you have to buy on I'm not giving you my tax returns. Yeah. But that's what we do. Okay. Well, I'm not doing and a lot of norms that had been accepted as things that we not going to do. It's been the door has been opened to be like, okay. Well, we don't have to play it that way anymore you can't come back from that like I don't think I don't know of norms can be reestablished and I think that's going to be the hardest thing for people to come to terms with for years. What do you do with Maliki? Andrews reporting that in the twenty twenty election cycle despite all of the talk the months we spent in the street that sports owners have donated ten million dollars to the Republican Party and less than two million dollars to the democratic. Party. That sounds about right. Right ESPN. An fivethirtyeight are doing a series on the political donations of team owners. The ringer did something very recently on the as a team owners. The thing that the ringer piece pointed out that I found to be interesting was. People who are as rich as these guys are. Typically are both sides donors, right they are typically thought a little money here though in a little money there. So that however this thing ultimately works out, they wind up being in favour with the people who have power what sports owners are doing is the donations are actually more lopsided than one would expect from the billionaire class and lopsided in going to the direction of the right like that. To me is why getting the arenas for voting was a bit more of a power move than I think people give it credit for because they were doing that in direct opposition to the politics of a lot of these owners like this is this is not what they're about. This is not what they WanNa do, and so I do find it interesting that so many of them are they don't. I think that people have a tendency to assume that rich people give their money to the Republican Party strictly because of taxes that doesn't explain why these guys are making the donations and using their money in the ways that they are using them at some point like these seem to be seems to be ideological right? Like this seems to be people who believe that the direction of the world. Is the direction of the Republican Party and that's where they give their money to, and I would love if somebody could have a conversation with some of these guys because this is the biggest problem if you want to talk about what I think is the biggest problem that we really have is sports media that doesn't get discussed enough. Is that other than Jerry Jones we have no access to ownership. Like there's no way in nobody that could get just throw any owner out here right? Like those bomber out here because his money actually does not go to the right it goes to you're not really getting no interview with St bomber like why are you giving your money in these directions? So Hey, why are you why you know why exactly is it that you are doing this? Tell me not to who? Has a big trump guy and I did not realize until recently as a tenant of trump's because he had a rainforest cafe wanted to trump buildings. I just like to talk to these guys like y what what is it that you see when you give your money to these guys and not just some answer like well, you know I just think that's what's best for the country. No. Let's talk it out like I would be reasonably intelligent person. I would just like to know why it is that you do this and how you reconcile that with owning sports teams, and who the people are there on the teams what are your attitudes about them nobody is going to do that interview and I'm not blaming the people for not doing it because I don't think anybody can do that interview. Nobody's going to sit down long enough to talk about. You don't do a lot of heartbreak on things. I'm wondering when you heard the news that Bethune Cookman had cancelled all sports for the upcoming year because this is personal to you because you're passionate about it I'm wondering how you received that news proud of them to be perfectly honest I. Am glad now granted I think part of this is a and for those who don't know though Cookman is a historically black college in Daytona. Beach. Florida. I was proud of him but also recognized that worst case scenario on a lot of this. Can't afford. They just don't have the money for. So on one level, I was proud of them for making the decision that no, we're just not going to engage in this this year the risk too high it's playing sports is not that important? The disturbing and worrisome part is, how does that speak to the financial condition of the schools? Because I thought somebody right wing cove is starting. He made a point that's really stuck with me which was. Co vid is not. Making, anything happened. That wasn't going to happen accelerating things that were already in process and that you might not realized. So like a lot of these restaurants, for example, wherever you are that are going out of business if feel bad for these people that had happened to them in that way but chances are they were going to go out of business they were probably going to go. Out of business I just was going to be a little bit later especially in restaurants 'cause they turn over so fast. But those are places that were probably going to go out of business it became an accelerating. So when I see what happens to Cookman I, have to look at this as is this is what it's going to be for Y'all like is this an accelerate but? As much as I liked the idea of having HP CU sports if we can't afford them, we just can't afford them I think that there are a lot of people that do well by going to. HBO. The scholarship to play ball. That's the thing that gets them into school. They make their lives better pushes them forward. We gotta find some other way maybe to help people you know they can do a very, very similar thing but the truth of all of this is ABC US had been in a precarious financial position for very long time. Let me look this up while we're here because I saw this for another school I forget which school I was looking at but the number absolutely blew my mind so. What's the endowment at University of Miami? Was it probably overcome? Forgive. ME. I don't know the answer to that I. Feel I. I'm almost hurt that I cannot provide for you what the answer is but I can I can look this up now because I'm pretty sure the Dow for the University of Miami is it's gotta be a billion dollars and lease. It says right here as twenty, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, it was not hundred ninety, seven, point, four, million dollars the endowment, but Cookman is under fifty million. million. 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How to Build Tourism from Zero_ Ep.01. TSHS-0036

The Social Hotelier

37:12 min | Last month

How to Build Tourism from Zero_ Ep.01. TSHS-0036

"You are listening to these social hotel. Show paul kostin inspires hoteliers to create meaningful memorable experiences for their customers in pursuit of their passion we share our views and experiences relating to hospitality technological trends and also relating to humanity. Here is your host. Sam eric rusman good afternoon and welcome to hospitality insights. My name is sam. Mary cookman. I'm very happy to welcome you here. This is a show that we talk about hospitality and tourism and also restaurants embarrassed anything that relates to hospitals. Have the opportunity to meet with industry leaders from around the world to ship for them to share. What are the burning topics that are affecting their industry. Of course as we know we have had the the tourism and hospitality has been devastated due to the pandemic but Whilst vaccinations are being rolling out around the world is also is promise of better things to come from people having more confidence and fanning their trips for their holidays. Here in the north north europe already people are booking for not for the summer. Because that's going to be mainly for domestic travel about four oversee travel long haul travel. You will see that. In the autumn and particularly for the winter season and so this is a shows. Many of the what we call the leisure destinations where people going. Holidays are picking up on bookings and many of the tour operators that are offering. These tours are already busy as ever so based on the calls that i have made with industry leaders in this travel agency. They say that they are people really booking actively taking a risk that they believe that it will be safe for them to travel in the winter again now in today's show first of all like to thank Partnership have four this hospitality insights winning dot training and also the mediterranean tourism foundation multi hotels and restaurants association visit malta and minister of tours of consumer protection in malta who are also featuring us on on their facebook. Page as or the members in malta. Hotels and restaurants will have an opportunity to view our our show. And i'm very happy to discuss irish discussion today with one of my special guests who is who's from slovenia and it's a rudy madrid and i had opportunity to discuss with rudy and the team are working on this very interesting project called zero and tourism from zero and i was curious what it all meant meant. And so let me bring in rudy so we can start our discussion. I thank you for your local. Everyone was watching really happy to be here to discuss a tourism. Yes hello rudy and warm. Welcome rudy who who who many people know already. But i thought i take the opportunity to give a brief introduction about rudy. His as i mentioned the team leader for locals from zero and very active. Podcasts are so if you're listening to podcasts. Definitely listen to the tourism from zero. And he's now actively involved at the faculty of tourism story studious total ristic in slovenia at the at the desk project. Kitty first of all she a little bit about yourself What are your activities. And who people a little bit more about rudy. So like you mentioned the via smalltown voter maybe some of annoyed. because it's the highest jimmy in euro been made famous though recently. Because we're both as made out. Reveal jimmy come from here and i basically molested six years. Let's say meaning. The reason in the three as a scholar of courses started as a bachelor now on the dan went so go master program at the same becker again. Toryism been really working in tourism. I zero faculty was very interesting for me. Coming to the ghost From from alassio from voted also and then of course being able to everywhere basic Hosted the show. I have to say that works though. Sewing down whole delicate of The or one day for three years so amazing memories from from the working the hotel. Exciting for a specially for accident course About me also activa like most projects in the community projects. Also every person is a by a big passion. Everything books the most most important right now like hobby-wise now what from those years or the time that you worked in the industry. What was the spark that triggered you to stay in the industry. What fascinated you. What fascinates you with with tourism thinking about this lately basically tourism connected to everything. It's like when you work in tourism. Feel like this Iran wide. And i think there is such a wide the industry You cannot be leaving. that's okay with me. That's great with me because Finding interesting interesting the most so tourism can be active in many other stories in everything. Basically learn a lot of different things from J. really broad sphere. So that's why i love it. Good morning you're right. There's never a dull moment when you're in. The industry and i mean slovenia has such a great history say one of the countries in the central europe. That has a long long long history of influences from different parts of the world and and also culturally and it's considered to be one of the most sustainable tourism is a major major economic driver. Like maybe four certain certain countries. So you have able to cape the what you offering in a very sustainable manner manner. Could you share a little bit about the approach and attitude that You having slovenia slovenia tourists tourism. Really proud that goes libya a country. I mean to me. It's amazing that we are because we are really country and we cannot do mass tourism Vision wanted towards. It's really reconsolidated along. And so i think the ideal country or not sustainable tourism. Because it's small it's easy to make some change make change and of course But the recently figuring has some really positive approaches by the slovenian tourism. Board especially in the the of the sustainability i think more and more stakeholders even local Start to realize what's gonna be really is just the ecological barks but the little the social and the economic stability something that processes the release slowly going for the nfl remade release some big improvement selects. Lena has been recognized. Really in all of their global magazine says the most sustainable country destinations like bohemian blades. Donna it on a The first point to some degree. Of course we have many other things that i think. We are really a slowly against the nation. Would i read. Was that qantas has condos travel. Is that the slovenia's air the best summation for sustainable travel in two thousand twenty one but also the british british killed or travel writers. Which i'm quite familiar with have also awarded slovenia four four there so you're getting lots of recognition and it's a buzzword buzzword. Maybe that's the wrong to call it. But the people appreciating efforts and because our tourism is known to before. Not being very sustainable. It has been degrading. The iran boutique approach to tourism. Meaning this kind of very individual. It has also some some challenges. I'm sure that how to get those service providers that are masters in their artisan masters but they are not. They are hidden hidden gems. That you like to somehow bring to the surface and to give them some opportunity to showcase their and also those people don't people are traveling for this particular purpose were enjoying experiencing new things in their life and they heard about slovenia and somehow attracted me of what you're doing is that you have this. They have you heard of this Like a grassroots activity to get to reach those small service providers and and the help them out to get them get them sort of a well known so. Could you talk a little bit about this. Local from zero for instance or how you approach. This topic is mentioned. It is really a lot of the small boutique. Providers lena are mostly rural areas. We don't have big cities all the only meets cities dallas as we two hundred thousand inhabitants. Which is in utopian measures a so. Yeah it's really a rural this nation. We have a lot of forest countrysides and of course In those communities in those more cities urges followed of bashing it's a small providers and of course the those providers are often before is intrical to somehow find them even for us for for logos. Cool with the leaving. I don't know every provider on getting slowly to know them because The dement to be in because they are dead. They are authentic. There were to be found by everyone than they weren't the so interesting anymore. So it's good that it's hard the challenge working with With local yes because even before the pandemic in two thousand nineteen to our sunday program On theresa been visiting kerr good cases of providers in the whole story. now we were on trips Many times doing girl we call them. Two days would be a literal translation of then so the bathed at some location we providers and we saw many really interesting local providers or not visible to the tourists The first thing if he sees or hears about so. It's very difficult like if you don't get those winds would have to ask someone. Let's say me and i would not It's not very difficult to find them online especially online. of course. there's the reason we went so this project is it all because we from the tourist sites received day really wants the local authentic experiences so really visits and the scene a the life that is locals. The because it's really how like a farm chores mostly Traditions could be on the dan hundreds of years ago and they're still going further traditions of course because they are so remote and mostly they're not skilled they're not presence online and you cannot find and really only the locust there they know them and this special deal are marketplace which is locust from zero r spoke environment because we implemented a new layer on scouts. Scouts are the people on the environments. Like me who know the region their cities and then they find those providers and then become visible online on our marketplace locus. Zero them if it's necessary week translational the because the website is in english the translation of the copyright two visible promotional pictures of their experience. Because we we have a case of their experience for the first time because they don't have a website social media So really we make for them to be visible in and also boca book online example. So for those who fully familiar over the kind of service providers but our activities that you can if you're coming first time to to slovenia and hook up with you guys on the things that you have a chance to experience some some examples of that you are a part of your scouts or model scouts are finding out for you. I would mention like a couple of which come to mind. The have a shoemaker in central of has been basically she's grandfather making shows let's say many years ago he dan upscale distribution wants to continue it. It's amazing shows We with craft shoes. Special shoes are expensive It's a process. I think he's the only one or the only do people slovenia or the amazing shows. This anna he shows you the process of making shows he we retain him because we want to on providers receive out basically issues the process. You know how he starts with measuring your vote and how he makes the first lauda mother. And then there's about this process and that's very important because our providers most Have special for something this year So that's one the amazing case of apply that refounded. Even the most of us didn't know about this process dispersed in. How do you then sit up. Every corporation with them just sitting up some goals or what are the. How do you go about two to encourage them to get to join this. And what is in india that for them. And what is in there for you. Of course for dan verse coming day is the first and the most of them become visible and for the experience becomes bookable online because okay maybe they have their presence on their websites or the sites over the mo the most of this d also websites not a booking platform. You can see the experience but you have to go all the information centre or email a so what we are with this guy. We're making Form where you'll as can really book this incident and what is also very better because we have these scouts image of skulls reliever them with the whole process. Because some of the most will do not speak english Translate the texts condemning leica or sexy formula that is a directive online. At of course they get the booking process so the skulls are the connection between juries and the provider of the bridal really can't say that's the entity for human for us. Of course we have really want to stay Leads for only for providers so each provider is very special. Us really amazing ended battle. Have only those special. How many Skulls to have the must be all over slovenia than new coast. A many villages in many places currently have a little bit more than forty experiences. Let's say twenty is something scouts but of course we are every day. We are receiving a new new gaining new scouts or new providers in people. That really wants to join us one to join her cause because they see it as really positive especially because seen a big interesting students Especially in all because steel during the pandemic most of them even know the fraternity work anywhere because everything was gross was close and when we started this initiative suddenly of students just wants to be a bar of its Basically the saw this way to be active in tourism and also have their local bar because all of us were as at home so we basically that we had to explore our local environments and then we saw how many kids we have and we want to present that so the a very excellent and concept that you have developed now his is where is it available only slovenia or are you also expanding this somehow corporation with some other places currently. We really want to set this up slovenia and see how this model works on the field because last year we were really setting this up and then covered came again and again go into the field now this summer really want to launch because we are Making a new platform this one that you'll see on arlene his short they already. The new version will be anything would be different than improved and then we plan to go live in. Slovenia context sweet The other countries craciun on the negro australia Really we want to start model or lena like scale small at the beginning really to go like lean startup us. oh. Dan of course context your other countries. That goes confirmation from them that this is also everywhere. I mean In every country. Yeah think is gonna be interesting for for many countries. What is the website or where Because i can put this on the screen where to find you and the website. Where could they go. Who is a low locus from zero dot. Org local zero dot org. Okay we will put that locals from zero dot org. I will put this year on the screen here. Because that's very like i said this is the arena moon viable product. Because we got to start somewhere and then when we start this bentham version the confirmation from a lot of providers through his that. This is really the right way. And because we last year we conducted more than twenty educational workshops for local tourism destinations providers and through. Them really got their confirmation that they need this like a environment. A scotland say to have that so now. We are really good anywhere dispense form. That's would be like any other form able to book everything online our really A special vigorous. Thank you for that. And now we have all supposed to the locals from zero website here on the screen for anyone and everyone who is interested to learn more about this detail one of the things. I would like to know that our rule will be changing more in the next ten years than the previous one hundred years. Those prediction done by futurist. His name is Going leonard what do you see the kind of change. What changes do you see possibly happening. In the next ten years which is relating now to the activities. You are involved in question. I have been just reading the book about the area. Ultra karate maybe no He's reading writing about this. Such things and thinking about this allow threatened. I think i won't say anything new that mona jewelry leader shape. Everything not likely scenario. But i think it's a big times five times How would transform everything near our lives. So basically i'm How holiday everything could be really determined by technology pro at that stone the most people because even now some like said proline the sewer none just local brides even bigger companies as you probably know. Some hold-downs are still resisting is digital order for some. It's because goal down there way than maybe also can it can be a force like digital the box that also big trends in the next couple of years i think that has a digital transformation will is affecting everyone and of course he quit because this is now ongoing and there are things that we don't pay attention to then what happens in in front of us then after moment take it for granted how we can use a mobile devices. A solution for us to find and everything we need and Particularly in our the pandemic is somehow accelerated some technology advancement which was was available but hotels. Being some research has some resistance had no other choice and more importantly now when the customers expecting certain things have no other choice than to to make sure it does not take away the personal attention between two persons or or something like that. But i think one of the huge benefits is that the data. How you can use the date to customize inexperience in particularly if you have lots of data what's going on in in slovenia by the small service providers also gives an opportunity to customize inexperienced for someone who is. I want to get the best honey. Is i want to experience the most beautiful waterfall or sort of things or medical herb store or special healthy teas so those many those are things that people want to. They want to have also have a sustainable life. And those are the things that people are asking for so but how to reach those people who specifically want one particular amount and honey only works. If you have all enough for your data available that you can reach those people. And that's where all these offficial intelligence and all this seems to be a perfect tool for the nine doesn't take take over things exactly exactly. We've been talking about team with on on subjects like blockchain and and it's really a student sogo. The faculty will organized the future Blockchain entities seamless. It can orman how beneficial for the tourism industry. I don't know if you but just on the bond on a project called open from argentina. It's a guy is using blockchain. Really to macy's winery is products his own. So blockchain concept of It's really interesting and mind-blowing doing also for a couple of years and you would think a. She's really innovative. I can see. I think absolutely i'd like to know more about this. I mean i have. I'm interested in in the in the blockchain and also the potential democratization of or smart contracts. And i have looked at it from from the hospitality. Point of view. Where where you're even a financing of a hotel. You can use to talk in his asian of finance hotel and there were you. Don't you only by maybe a portion of a hotel. You don't have to buy a minor equity or major with just a if you want to buy a room or buy a small share. We want to have twenty five percent of the hotel asset but you only want to sell ten percent possible if you have this technology they. It's very slow at the moment. The blockchain but i think that everything is accelerating as we speak and they are getting much better in in hard to handle the waste at heat that is coming from those computers too. In fact i read somewhere at wherever they are going to use the energy of the waste energy heat to heat up some buildings also in winter in the summer in finland so happens around us all the time. Now the question is what does the four peace people planet purpose and prosperity mean to you. Okay so the. The people i mean people have been receiving now in the pandemic the be connected with people and just see how it goes the bigger next absurd like this the same of course but i think we have managed like i can say in general to to be connected to stay and Also we talk about tourism. Of course people are. The the main people aren't always tourism are people so we cannot go even on this technology stated people when you're congo someone. He explains his process. How he's doing something special about something that special and that's not Something that. I think we can change in the near future very good purpose in prosperity. Give enough emphasis old. Glad keeping as this or even better not just as a. I think we have to be three. Our approach the pats and then purpose meaning of life being being being happy being will you are a good send the prosperity sturdy not just a physical but also the experiences ikea defines members and not just The financial very good. Now if you look back now to two thousand and twenty what has been your biggest personal accomplishment in your view. What has been different than ever before. Doesn't blink was there was actually because the when the pandemic starts as we started this initiative. I with some of these people whole incur. Like our team. And the dentals really. the most Was the the connected to those people and then some very good and then finally f- what have you learned about yourself during the pandemic reading books. I really have time to think about to learn something. New will start listening. Discordance guests and my own broadcast from zero pass. Really just learning Because a finished the faculty. The i mean writing masters degree classes are finished and then do some. They have to learn yourself. And don't have the college barnes in the educational system but you have to find ways of finca omen that because i really absorb. Everything's very good. Yeah i think he's also. This pandemic period has been in many ways one way we don't get closer to many people even though it has to be in a virtual format. But i found i. I have been connecting with more people than ever before because there was no chance to meet the a to travel and so on so you take the best best out of have at the moment. Make the best out of it. This wasn't this'll be connected. Digitally because i think that slovenia is very attractive. Now i mean catching up a little bit more about all the beauty and these differently noy must must place. It's not very far away from from europe yourself very far for many anywhere. So it's It's close enough so and it to give me a good chance to get to know you and also we're having another episode in a week's time we will continue our discussion about this very interesting interesting topic. Any final words. What you have you want to share. Maybe what you've learned about yourself during the pandemic anything particular that That was did he. Maybe didn't think about before. Yes i've learned a lot. I mean. I'm learning everyday when we are doing these projects Talking to these people yeah learns. I can I can do many things if i just. I'm invested enough advocate. Show for everyone and to colored ones just like they have and he's me and for us a finger team come together and do this project's doing very good. So it's a very positive in that sense rudy. Thank you very much for for this time we spent together and i definitely have learned a lot about what you're doing. Thanks for joining us this week. On the social show make sure to visit our website the social issue dot blueberry dot net where you can subscribe to the show in itunes spotify google play or via. Rss so you'll never miss a show one. You read it if you in this show we appreciate rating on itunes or if he simply tell a friend about the show that would help us out to be sure to tune in from next episode.

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'It felt really different at the White House this week'

POLITICO's Nerdcast

21:48 min | 2 years ago

'It felt really different at the White House this week'

"Hello listeners. This is Politico's nerd cast. I'm Charlie Mattel sitting in for Scotland this week. This week on nerd cast. Donald Trump on the offensive after Robert Muller clears his campaign of coordinating with Russia in two thousand sixteen Howard Democrats in congress dealing with it. Plus why Democrats running for president this year? Are sweating? It deadline that comes up and just a couple of these Sunday March thirty first as always we're taping. The segment a little bit before noon eastern time on Thursday, March twenty eighth so it's all up to date until then okay? Let's get started. We've got two great guests today. We've got a Nita Kumar from our White House team and Nita welcome. You're on your way to becoming a regular here on nerd cast liken it, thanks for having me back. It's great to have you and one of my favorites. One of my all time. Politico favorites is also here today. Kyle Cheney from congressional team Kyle you just got back from paternity leave just in time. Welcome back. I cannot plan that better. Thank you. Well, we're unpacking. A new political reality Kyle. And today, we'll do it. With our first data point twenty two. Robert Muller has finished his twenty two month investigation into Russian meddling in the two thousand sixteen presidential election, and whether the president tried to obstruct the work of investigators digging into that meddling. Well, obviously, we haven't seen the full report just to four page summary from attorney general William bar, which as you know, says no coordination between the campaign in Russia. And that Muller actually didn't make a call on obstruction. So Nita with that in mind. Monday morning was essentially the first day of the Trump presidency. That didn't have this whole Russian conspiracy question hanging over the White House. What does life after Mahler look like for Donald Trump? You know, it felt really different at the White House this week. He is just feeling really good. I mean, I have to say the word that comes to mind was I felt that White House officials were gloating a bit after Sunday, they are feeling good. They're feeling confident. They're feeling like it's part two of his presidency. And this is coming at a really important time. Because as you know, he's about to start running for reelection. And so he's just feeling like he has some capital to do some things maybe get some things done. And that he just doesn't have this hangovers head. You know, you might think that he would just kind of turn the page and move on. But this is Donald Trump. So he's actually using this to his advantage. And he is really really hitting Democrats and the media hard on how they they did this to him. You know, they this goes right into what he's been talking about that people were out to get him. But that he has persevered and he is victorious show at the White House. It's payback time it, spike. The football time, it's celebration time, and Kyle you're on Capitol Hill where it's it's a little bit different up there where Democrats have basically told the Torney general bar. They want the full report by next week. Does this mean the investigations are moving full speed ahead. Or what does it mean? What's what's it like tonight? I mean, they're somewhat flabbergasted at how quickly people are trying to move on. There's a complete dearth of information. No one has actually seen the findings of the report. And they're not sure they by William bars memo. And even if you do it doesn't really cover all the bases of what Muller was investigating. So there's a lot of blanks to fill in here, including whether there's any counter intelligence findings suggest while people may have committed crimes there may they may have been compromised by Russia all the same. And so Democrats are saying look we need the full report is an all out battle now to get it. They don't expect to get it by an April second deadline, they set. So we could be looking at subpoenas in a big legal fight to get access. Is there any sense that Democrats on the hill are are facing? This the second stage, I suppose you might call it with a sense of trepidation or reticence, given the the fact that when you take a look at the polling at least, you know, Americans are ready to move on. They wanna see the full report. But at the same time, they they've pretty much hewed to the. Same places they've been during this whole investigation where are Democrats in terms of how far to push this? So rhetorically they're saying nothing has changed. We because we haven't seen the findings and we have our own investigations to do. We are still full steam ahead on that. But there is a sensitivity to the optics of looking like, you know, the White House is very successfully messaged, so far this whole no collusion idea. The no no new charges. Therefore, everything is is over the turn the page. So Democrats don't wanna look like they're just beating a dead horse here. Reinvestigating things Muller is already looked at and decided is there's nothing there. So they're trying to balance that right now. And I'm not sure that come up with a strategy exactly yet. And I need it seems to me that the White House is always in sort of full grievance mode, and they feel like they're in their comfort zone when they're complaining about. How mean people are being to them are how double standards are being applied. What what did they want to see come out of capital that they would they prefer to see Democrats continue on down the road? They see that as politically beneficial to them in any way for the reelection. Yeah. I definitely think that some people over at the White House feel that's beneficial. They have if you've seen anything they've put out or you've heard anything they've said for the last few days, they have said over and over Democrats are overreaching. They're looking at the same old thing that we've looked at you know, that Bob Muller looked at for the last two years. And this is going to be exactly what Kyle said is going to be repetitive and the voters and Americans are going to realize now that they're just doing this for partisan reasons. Right. This is already been done. But it's really important to remember that the House Democrats are looking at a lot of things that Bob Muller didn't look at their investing all sorts of policies that the administration has put forth over the last couple of years and all sorts of other personal things that maybe Bob Muller and look at. So there might be some other things, but they run the risk now of the president and the White House just saying look thereafter, me they they're doing the same exact thing. June need nita's points on that the White House wielding this somewhat part partial victory in the Muller findings again because they don't know fully what he found and trying to use it to neutralize as Nita point out these wide ranging pro have nothing to do with the, you know, the Russia collusion, obstruction stuff. How the president's handle security clearances, whether his business has been his conflicts of interest thing that Democrats really want to dive into, but they're trying to neutralize effectively all of those probes with just this one finding so Carl I have a lightning round question for you the president and others in his ministry is administration have called for house intelligence chairman Adam Schiff to resign. What are the chances that Adam Schiff will resign zero zero elevates his standing among Democrats? Okay. So needle let me move to you one store that you worked on this week that I thought was really fascinating was the idea that the White House has this full ambitious agenda out there that may be the rest of the party's unfamiliar with or you know, hasn't been talked about outside the confines of the White House, but they had this ambitious agenda, and it's filled with prescription drugs and infrastructure, and and healthcare and all these things how real is that well since we don't think they've actually talked to members of congress about it too much. Probably not that real. I mean, it is. Real in that, you know, they had this agenda. Anyway, they just feel more invigorated after the molar report or actually I should continue to call it the bar summary of the mullahs report, but they're not gonna get anywhere unless they get some people on board on Capitol Hill political had the story this week earlier this week that they are talking to House Democrats about the drug pricing issue. So there's that. But there are tons of other issues that they haven't talked to Capitol Hill about one in particular that we that that I was doing the reporting on was about immigration. So, you know, everybody kinda rolls there is it immigration. Right. We haven't done this in so long. Everybody says they're going to do it and it never happened. And so they wanna take another crack at it. If you remember last year, they had this plan that they put out and then it didn't really go anywhere. And so now, they have divided congress, and they're gonna take another crack at it. But when I asked, you know, people have they spoken to anyone a Capitol Hill. Not really so I mean there. Never going to get that done unless they they start with those make those inroads toe. What kind of reaction are you seeing up there? If any to the idea that the White House has an ambitious Hilla gender. I mean, honestly, I do think for a lot of these new freshmen Democrats from swing districts, they would like to knock some policy achievements here. So it's not out of the question that they'd be willing to play ball, but need to set you have to have to engage congress even get there. So, you know, look, it's gonna be an uphill slog for the White House to get anything through a democratic house. But they do have this sort of audience of Democrats who are at least willing to listen to this point calm. I guess would be that. It's not going to happen on immigration because the White House won't budge on that. It's not going to happen on healthcare after they sort of let the issue on fire this week. So we're we're would be areas that you know, if there were freshman Democrats that sorta wanted to break logjam, and maybe find some policy accomplishments where we're might they find some common ground with the White House was drug causes clearly one. Possibly trade. This is one where they are at least engaging somewhat on on the president's trade agenda and. Immediate infrastructure, which is just the perennial one that comes up as an area of possible common ground, though, we haven't seen much progress there either. Let's remember it's it's in both of their interest. Democrats and Republicans, you know, in the White House and on Capitol Hill to get something done. Nobody wants to run in two thousand twenty with nothing nothing that they can say they did in the last two years. So you know, they may be afraid on Capitol Hill. Hey, this is going to help the help the president run for reelection. But if in two years Democrats don't have anything that they can run on. It's not good for them. Either. If I could just circle back to one issue because I can't read enough about it. I absolutely fascinated by Robert Muller. So obviously, he's he's closed shop. He's packed up. His things handed off the, you know, whatever, you know, remnant cases are out there. What happens next is he just ride into the sunset? I mean, how long does it take for things to wind down? Will we be hearing more about him? What do we know? Or what are we hearing both on Capitol Hill and from the White House side, I think that the president at the White House. They would be just fine if he wrote off into the sunset have you noticed that some of them have changed their tune to? Now, he such a great person. He did such a fabulous job. Now that the outcome is what they wanted. You know, they would be fine with it. I've been asking at the White House this week. You know, when are we going to see the full report or what's your timetable, and they are just sort of punting to Capitol Hill, they'd be fine. If they never heard from him again, and they just want to move. Move move on. They don't want to move on with you know, talking about it. But they wanna move on with this investigation. But, but you know, it's still out there. I mean, it's not going to end until until congress some of the report, right? And Kyle the president called Muller a honorable man, which was a little bit of a surprise, given some of the the harsh rhetoric he's used before and then Rudy Giuliani in an interview declined to call Muller and honorable man said he was not an honorable man. What gives there? You know, I even paying really close attention to the the the drama there between the various camps. I think Trump is a bottom line kinda guy. Feels like he's passed the the real danger himself per legally. Then it doesn't matter. What what else happened? The the course of this molar is a great guy. He came to the right conclusion Giuliani looking at what Muller said on obstruction saying when Muller made no ruling on instruction and just passed it onto bar. That's a mystery. We still have to unravel a motorcycle. Let's kinda like what James Comey did when he didn't charge Clinton but said something negative now there's a an issue with that. Because it was bar decided to make that part of the report public. Muller submitted that confidentially. So we still have to figure out why would Muller reach that conclusion feel compelled to say that. But I think you'll Leonis pointing at that and saying that doesn't strike me. Something a prosecutor should say so much going on there. Well, listen, Kyle Anita. Thank you so much for taking out all this time for us. I really learned a lot today. And I'm really glad we can have both of you guys here. Sharon, thanks for having me. Thank you, Charlie. All right onto our Knicks data point, which is three three days remain until the end of the weekend. The end of the month and the end of the first quarter and that matters because March thirty first is win candidates for president have to report to the Federal Election Commission. Just how much money they've raised. So far this year's it's really big deal. In a lot of the twenty twenty Democrats are pounding the pavement for money, even as they tried to downplay expectations of how much the raised in the first quarter. Chris catalog, oh, you wrote this week about the pending March thirty first deadline is par. Of your twenty twenty beat. Why does this deadline matter and I should warn you that when you see my finger go to my temple motion like a gun that means you're talking too much about campaign, finance and getting too far into the weeds. So explain to our listeners why this deadline matters. I appreciate the preemptive warning there. This is such a big field already and voters are jest if they are tuning in or just starting to tune in and looking at what are the differences between these candidates, and we're hearing a little bit about policy. We're seeing sort of differences in their personalities how they talk about things what states they're focusing on. But we don't know who the real players are besides some sort of early polling, which is still very dependent on who's best known. And so this is sort of a way for the candidates to not only separate from each other in the pack, but also to show. Who who comes in with a with a natural sort of energy behind them? And so we're looking at it like, okay, these these folks got in do they have any kind of constituency? Do they come in with with any excitement behind their campaign? And I think that's a big part of why this first date is so important, but I thought elections were issues. Yeah. There's there's plenty of time for issues. We're hearing all about issues they're all rolling out issues, and they're using those issues ironically to raise money, we're seeing all these last moment flurry of fundraising emails that all mentioned the deadline, of course of the thirty first. And a a lot of the candidates are putting forward they're starting to tell us how many people they still need before the deadline ends Bernie Sanders is now famously saying he wants to reach a million contributions, which if you do the math at twenty seven Dr. Dollars. You know would be a lot of money in this first period. So I think this is heavily reliant on sort of the expectations game. It it is it is a way for them to to put some sort of number early on on the board. And I think you know, as the political press is is really going to dig into these reports not only how much they raised. But how much they spent who are they hiring? And I it's something that that will mean something early on. What can we learn from the report? So they're filed March thirty first the they're not going to be out there available till April fifteenth, I guess once the process, but what did we learn from these reports we're looking at you know, how much people spent who they're hiring how much they're paying how much they're spending on what aspect of their campaign early. Are. They are they spending more time on their field operation early on. Are they spending more time on how much they spend to raise this amount of money. How much are they putting out there on on? All these new pl-, you know, online and Facebook, and all these other places, and it's that's going to be a big part of of what we look at. It's always my favorite part about these quarterly deadlines dorky as it sounds if you if you plow through these documents, there's all sorts of fascinating line items about how candidates Bill spend their money. Your learned for example, who lives high on the hog on on the road who lives fairly frugally. You learn who's putting their money into digital. You learn you learn all sorts of things about campaigns priorities. But is it really fair to candidates? I mean, this is going to be fair when these numbers come out. Some of these candidates are going to take a beating and and their performances in terms of their first quarter are going to be viewed as sort of a signs of weakness within the campaign is that is that fair. I think it's fair especially for the ones who have been in this campaign now from early in the quarter. There's only so much time. Given how big this field is that people are going to give to each of them. If they're if they're not making an early impression in a whole bunch of ways, he said policy said are they connecting with folks? And and people need to see that that this candidate is going to be viable. I mean, it's not only to get through this primary. People are estimating fifty to seventy million to get through the first, you know, few states, they they need to know that this is someone that has excitement behind them and can raise money in a general election environment. And so I think while the first quarter some folks may get a pass there's always at least one surprise have been talking to the campaigns over the last couple of days, and the the the the the feeling among them in the last few days is maybe it's people to judge. Maybe maybe he kind of jumps into the number four spot or the number five spot, and and that gives him a new sort. Of entree into into the national media, and sort of another data point for him to use beyond you know, some of these appearances he's had that he's made a Mark on. So so this is not only for some folks who are slumping and not maybe raising as much as they they should this is an opportunity for someone to break out really early and show that just another area where where they're where they can do. Well, noted Chris catalog, I was on the mayor Pete bandwagon. That's one of the great things about this change in sort of the candidate pipeline in part of this. I think is the changes because of the Trump era because Donald Trump got elected president. You have lots of folks who think will, you know, Trump could get elected prison. I could get elected president. And so you've got all these different kinds of candidates who would have ever expected in the past. We'd be talking about the mayor of south bend in the end of viable prospect for the nomination or a guy who who has run statewide once and lost. Yeah. Guy coming off like three house live here. We're talking about Beto, of course. But it will work wins. Coup- couple of house terms. Loses big Senate race and then use that as a springboard to the presidency. Yeah. I mean, this also kind of gets into the conversation you look back on the quarter. And he's okay. Who had the best quarter, you know? And it's not just money. It's it's their their launch the type of attention. They've gotten had they moved in the polls. Did they get a bump after their their launch? And this will factor in heavily. I think when people look at you, you mentioned Beto Rourke the one thing out there that is really really working in his favor. He he launched and after a couple of days people like what is this? You know, he's he's out there standing on tables. And then boom, he puts a number on the board six point one million dollars in the first twenty four hours, and that just like his his critics were were quieted very quickly, including folks from the other campaigns. And so that I think is a big part of it the one, you know, to throw a little cold water on the on the mayor Pete thing. I mean, you could go back and look at. Primary campaigns on the democratic side on the Republican side. There's always been a mayor Pete like figure he may not end up being the mayor Pete like figure in this field. But right, there's there's the figure that people are like, oh, man don't pack down. No, no, no, all whole interest. That's aren't there. So impressive. God. Wouldn't they make a good president? Right. But are they gonna win the primary who the heck knows? But it there's there's there's always a mayor Pete. And mayor Pete may be that mayor Pete this time. Well, Chris this has been great. I really appreciate you taking out all the time to walk us through all this in congratulations. When carrying a full segment by yourself. You know, that's always the Mark of a huge becoming Washington star. So thanks for stopping today. Yeah. And I appreciate you carrying most of the load here. All right. Thanks, Chris Sealy. Our producer is Michaela Rodriguez. 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"Facebook is strengthening security during elections by increasing political add transparency blocking fake accounts before they have a chance to do harm and reducing the spread of false news. Learn more at Facebook dot com slash action plan. Hello listeners and welcome to another edition politicos nerd cast. I'm Scotland your host this week on the nerd cast. We're gonna be talking caravans tax cuts tariffs and the increasingly tenuous link between what President Donald Trump is talking about on the campaign trail, and what's actually happening in reality. Plus, what would happen if you watched hundreds and hundreds of campaign ads what things would emerge? What would you? Learn. Would you go insane a brave? Politico colleague will join us to talk us through it. A reminder before we get started to our listeners to subscribe to the nerd cast rate us and right review and one more note before we begin we're taping. This a little bit before noon eastern on Thursday, October twenty fifth. So it's all up to date as of then. All right. Let's jump right into this. I want to welcome our guests. We have senior politics editor, Charlie Motassium, happy to have you here. Charlie. She got we have two wonderful members of our political White House team. Also, Nancy cook, thank you. Oh, thanks for having me, Scott and Chris catalog. Oh, welcome back as well. Thank you. All right. So time for our first data point ten as in ten percent. Donald Trump was talking this week about a new tax cut of about ten percent for the middle class ahead of the midterms problem is nobody in congress knows what he was talking about. And nobody in congress is there to vote on it, even if they did know what he was talking about. There's no Bill does not enough time before the midterms to make a Bill happen. And yet here we are Nancy you wrote about it this week. So what gives was the president just talking off the top of his head or is this part of a strategy to win midterm votes. What what happened here? So is both the president was completely talking off the cuff, and he mentioned it on Saturday. He mentioned this magic tax cut and people sort of dismissed it as just sort of a one off. But then he brought it up again on Monday. And you know, I paying a bunch of people in the White House folks on the hill, you know, my sort of tax geek. Gwang friends. You know, I love the economic stuff, and nobody knew what he was talking about and people were sort of speculating, well, like maybe he's talking about this Labor Department proposal. This people on the hill where much more candid they were like, we have no idea what he's talking about Nancy. And then they're like call the White House. You know, everybody kept saying Nancy, call the White House. And I'm like, well, I call it speaker Ryan office. I'm like, well, Trump sent speaker Ryan's like working on this plan with him and speaker Ryan spokesperson just said you need to call the White House, Nancy. So nobody had any idea, and it was sort of this larger example of the way that Trump makes these promises that he think will sound that he thinks will sound good either on the campaign trail or rallies or wherever at the White House, and how people in the White House and the hill basically have to reverse engineer policy based on these off the cuff comments that he's does. And the Washington Post had a great piece where they've laid out all the different times that this has happened. This has happened. Also with the transgender ban the tax cut some of the space program stuff where we're whole groups of policy people then have to be like, oh, my gosh, we made this promise. Now, we have to come up with a policy. Plan that actually backs it up. And so that's one thing. But the other thing is is that this really does play into what is happening with the mid terms. I mean, the two themes of what's happening with the midterms are sort of Trump is trying to capitalize on people's sense of fear. And then he's also really capitalizing. He's using a lot of falsehood lies. Whatever you wanna call them to sort of talk about what he's going to be doing and they're not really true. And so those sort of themes that icy heading into the midterms falsehoods. And you know, just a ton of fear about his rhetoric, and what could happen. Does Trump actually think there's going to be a ten percent tax cut? I that Trump. I mean, I think he thinks he's president. Right. Like, I it's hard for me to get inside his mind. Exactly. But I think he's like, well, I'm president. Why not you know, I'm a businessman like he he's always as a president had a hard time grasping. The fact that tax bills, for instance, originate in the house of representatives, not the White House. You know, this stuff has to pass through congress. It's like, obviously. You know on some level. It's not gonna happen because congress thousand the Senate are not even in until after the election. So it's not going to happen before the election like he promised. But I also think that he feels like he's never been like very respectful of the different branches of government. And so I think that he when he makes promises like this. He expects them to be carried out in some fashion. He's making them as a in the mindset of CEO who can handle a ten percent bonus. Anytime you want like we're going to do this. We need more tax. I was told by White House people that even at the signing of the tax Bill which hadn't been done since Ronald Reagan. So it happened last time there was a tax cut was nineteen Eighty-six at the signing of the tax Bill. Everyone was like, wow. This is so historic. And he was like, yeah. But we should do more tax cuts. So you know, he doesn't always appreciate the longevity of the or just how long it takes to get stuff done. Ten. Reagan was the previous like wider tax reform Bill, but there had been tax cuts between. Yes, thank you. But there there hadn't been like a Bill. Of this magnitude right in thirty years. And now, Christly the this is not the only one as as Nancy said, this is not the only one of these things that's going on right now Trump. The the president also suggested that middle easterners were trying to sneak into the US as part of a caravan of migrants that's slowly making their way through Central America right now through Mexico. But he he later said, and this is actually kind of remarkable you later said he's got no proof of this claim. But Chris the the caravan story, and what Trump has tried to do with it as almost made for TV and and as such made for Trump as well. Yeah. So we watch the evolution of this. We were talking with folks in the White House a couple of weeks before this caravan even surfaced I think more than a week ago before he started talking about there were only about two hundred people in this caravan that grew into the thousands, and they were saying that polling and a lot of these tight congressional districts indicated that immigration as a whole and this idea that we need to protect ice. There was a whole on. The left movement to abolish ice over the summer was really resonating with voters in districts that both Hillary Clinton one and Donald Trump wants a lot of these battleground districts, and they thought we need to find a way to talk about immigration than this caravan came along, and we watched as Trump started to just bring this up wherever he could, you know, even even unprompted this this. They saw this as an immediate gift to him and this combined with this idea of a new tax cut. I think the new tax cut is as good of a reminder to us as we could possibly have that talking about the original tax reform is not enough. We're so close the election. Now, he already delivered on something. But delivering on something is different than saying. I'm gonna do something more. Also that was seen and has been tacked on the democratic side as being a hand out to big business. Whereas this one I think he's focusing a lot more on the middle class. And so I think these are a lot of the voters who need to be motivated versus just as friends and business right now. That's good point in Charlie. We're gonna talk. A little bit about kind of the wars in the next segment, but the balance of what's in those ads clearly shows that the last year's tax law has been at at the very least break, even or maybe even a net negative for for a lot of house. Republicans certainly, yeah, I've been surprised, you know, speaking events, you don't see it turn up that much in Republican ads you'd think that this would have been the centerpiece of the reelection campaign, especially with with a healthy economy. But you don't see it at all. And you know, I think impart the the blame they're probably worse on the White House for stepping on that message consistently providing so much fodder for Democrats in their ads to use the president against various House Republicans, particularly in the suburbs. And that's how the president surfaces. The other way. The president surfaces in these ads is in these red states where candidates are tying themselves very closely to the president particularly in places like West Virginia. You see it in the North Dakota Senate race in lots of places throughout maybe the south and some Rocky Mountain areas where? You've got the candidate embracing the president in the ad or reiterating their support for president Donald Trump's agenda or fighting for Donald trumps agenda in one way or another. I was gonna say that actually these two issues form kind of the polar opposites of the folks on the outside who have Trump's here who really wanted him to go hard on immigration, and this this tax reform idea, which the White House itself, the White House proper thought would be a much bigger issue that he would campaign on and the folks outside were actually very critical of that and saying you can't run on that like that doesn't that doesn't gin up support. Among the base, you need to bring up some of these more visceral issues and Donald Trump. We saw an as the spring rolled around in may and June. He started to use much more loaded terms like animals to describe the MS thirteen gang. And then you saw the abolish ice movement that he was able to really capitalize on. So we've seen who is one out in that debate. Obviously, the immigration side has won out over the tax reform side. But it's just like the immigration side versus the tax side. I think that where we are now in the midterms just shows the extent to which Trump has totally co opted, the Republican party, you know, there were huge swath of the Republican party that were just about sort of rolling back regulations and tax cuts, and sort of more conservative economic ideology. And now so much of the Republican party is about immigration these immigration issues. These trade issues, you know, these issues of sort of law enforcement and people being scared and feeling like, you know, Trump promising to protect them, and that is so much of the east coast of the Republican party. And it's been totally brought up by Trump like these are not, you know, Republican congressmen and senators that went down this path. This is Trump that has brought them down this path. And this is the closing argument in the midterms and keep in mind, what how Trump views politics. He he doesn't want. I don't think he wants to run on tax cuts meeting. Just you know, zooming here really believe he knows much more than the top lines of that Bill. No, he's not a policy guy. He wants to prosecute a culture war. This fall and he's doing and had some success. That's why it's all immigration. That's why it's NFL. That's why it's really loaded language like animals. That's why he's talking about Maxine Waters and Hillary Clinton pushing all these hot button issue for conservatives all about the the kind of cultural things that really jeans up and excites the base tax cuts. Don't do that. I think that's partially. True. Charlie by I disagree a little bit in because he clearly does want to run on something regarding tax because you else he wouldn't have made up this this ten percent tax cut out of mid air. Right or and we're talking about the the suggestion that there were middle easterners infiltrating this caravan, or there was a Wall Street Journal interview where Trump said that we don't actually have any tariffs other than on steel. When fact there's a quarter trillion dollars and other tariffs. So he I it's he does want to run at least a little bit on taxes. But he seems he's he can't or feels like he can't run on what they already. So he's he's making something else up to as a future promise. Well, it's interesting because right. It's like the decision to run on a forward. Looking message rather than a backward-looking Mon and the backward-looking one. You're right would have some things like he passed it to tax. It has real thing that has he got to conservative supreme court. Judges appointed like there are some key. You know, he's rolled back regulations. Particularly in the environmental space there are accomplishments. But I also feel like the, you know, the question heading into the midterms was what was going to be a forward-looking message for him. And I think that we found it. It's just not an optimistic forward looking one. It's just a very sort of negative fear driven one less work, even when the White House and Trump's outside folk settle on an issue that they're going to bring up say immigration. It's all Nancy's, right? It's all Trump. He's the one that takes it to this level of Middle Eastern Easterns. He's the one who who editorialize in his speech and adds that Democrats want to buy undocumented immigrants Afri car. Are all of that stuff is his own Adler miss that adds. Yeah. That was another another big one that's cropped up over the last weekend. And he said, maybe a Rolls Royce. Okay. Well, I'll have to keep an eye out for that. In the meantime, let's leave it there. Chris. Thank you so much for for talking through that. And for for that little surprise that. You chopped down at the I expect my Rolls Royce on the way and Nancy. Thank you for being here. He doesn't give Rolls Royces to the fake news media, Chris. Thank you for having me. All right Charlie's going to stick with us. We're gonna move into our second segment, but coming up first, we have a message from a sponsor Facebook's growing team of experts are dedicated to strengthening security during election season and beyond one way. They're doing this is by using artificial intelligence to proactively block fake accounts before they have a chance to do harm. Learn more about their ongoing efforts at Facebook dot com slash action plan onto our next data point which is one hundred thirty that is the number of political ads that debuted across the country on Tuesday alone in battleground house Senate and governor's races. Look at who finances Dan fee engine player. Radical George Soros Wall Street's biggest banks and the thugs that bring this poison to our communities meet big Jif twenty Manar spreader and our next guest watched every single one of them. Notable healthy. On your says, I'm asking for your vote. Couple of needles. Pelosi every single one them even watch twice. We have assembled in the studio the shattered pieces of Zach Montel ours. Soul to talk about this for the nerd cast longtime listeners may recognize ex name from the credits. He was our researcher before taking the reporting job. He's got now. But Zac, welcome. Thanks. I me is this your first there. I had a bonus segment awhile ago. But the first the first real appearance, I'm really not just to hear about the commercials only because it's so exciting to have somebody with a stronger regional accents. So Zach one hundred thirty ads. Did you go insane? It's been a slow descent into madness because it's not been just this one thirty it's been weeks and weeks of watching them, and I can blame you Scott for this. But I think mostly saying it is actually interesting I feel like I can hear your soul right now. Even though you're you're very calm. But so let's let's break this down by party. First republicans. What are they talking about? What are they not talking about? What's the argument that they're putting forth and let let's maybe start with the house to to keep control of the house of representatives. Yes. The house has been kind of interesting that, you know, going to selection, we all thought it was going to be an election fought on the grounds of tax cuts could be positive messaging on the tax cups. They did that's really not the case, especially in the closing couple of weeks. Republican House messaging has largely been negative ads and largely revolved around tying these battleground how democratic hopefuls to Nancy Pelosi another vote for the Pelosi agenda. Nancy Pelosi is like the great evil in all of these. Ed's that she's a liberal force trying to take over the country, and the democrat would go this actually, godless if they actually support her or not many of them have said that they don't write many of them don't, but she still tied into their ads based on policy and just based off image alone on this you can extend this to to other prominent Democrats, Elizabeth Warren makes quite a few appearances stand with Montana, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton, Nixon appearances Bernie Sanders, the occasional Chuck Schumer. Now Senator Don Lee stands with Chuck Schumer. Really? It's Nancy Pelosi is that great evil. Well, so loud Democrats, and we've reported on this a lot they made a big deal this year about the fact that they do not support Nancy Pelosi for speaker. So how are Republicans going about making continuing to make the connection between them and the ones potentially future speaker? So a lot of it is based on policy that Nancy Pelosi supports saying, oh, so and so Democrats also supports this policy and not policy usually is opposing the GOP tax plan. They try to frame it in these. Ads. Are they positive thing that they have done, but like Nancy Pelosi, and this democrat trying to take this positive benefit away from you, and then immigration and open borders. They say broadly that Democrats support open borders, and that's the plan pushed forward by Nancy Pelosi that so and so Democrats aborts its kind of an oblique way in, but ultimately the the same effect. They've always been looking for which is tied. These folks to Pelosi the same way that they tied incumbents to her in two thousand ten when Republicans took the house. Yeah. And they have an argument to that many Republicans argue that me ask him about the said, oh, so and so don't support Pelosi. Their argument is well who will they support them? And that there's really been no good answer to that. So that's why they feel pretty comfortable. You know, tying these people who say, hey, we're not gonna vote for Pelosi saying, well, you have really know the options. Jackie Rosen votes. Ninety percent of the time for whatever Nancy Pelosi wants. How's that good for Nevada? Senate Charlie at almost almost seems at times like what else would Republicans run ads about in the house, right? Like, this has been the playbook for a long time now, and they're loath to give up on it. Just because if you people have said, it's like, oh, I don't support her. Yeah. It's after cycle after cycle of of Nancy Pelosi abuse. And it's all downhill from there. You know, Republicans will tell you Pelosi's people get really upset when the meteorite things about Pelosi ads and the idea that she's toxic out there. But the truth is Republicans wouldn't do it. If it didn't work, you know, and we've seen it work before in lots of different districts and in part because she's the most recognizable Democrats in many ways. But also because she's great for ads. It doesn't really matter. If you're supporting her not doesn't matter if you have nothing in common with her. What's great about her as villain in ads is she fits sort of a caricature of the Democratic Party coastal elites, very wealthy, and and Republican ads have great fun with that talking about her San Francisco values, and so that can be devastating in certain kinds of districts, but what I found interesting this year is how many ads Hillary Clinton appears in. That's remarkable. I mean, she is the failed nominee from twenty sixteen yet. She is in a ton of ads, Hillary Clinton or uncle. Like, Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi Hillary Clinton person on another Hillary Clinton where Republicans talk about so and so supported embraced Hillary Clinton in two thousand sixteen especially in the Senate races right Zach and those Senate races where especially in the states where she lost by double digits Democrats running for reelection number of ads. It's tied like Joe Donnelly and Joe mansion Indiana, West Virginia senators, respectively to Hillary Clinton for their support and twice sixteen election. That's been a real hammer. There's also some degree of risk for Republicans here. Because here you are nail. You are hammering on the two most recognizable women in American politics at a time that Republicans are going to face the a historically large gender gap in the polls. And I wonder if there's going to be any sort of I if that in any ways hurting, the candidates only a few only a few more days till we find out that talked to us about the democratic side of the the advertising equation this year. We know what they've been talking about. Th- care health care health care. This also what they're what they're advertising about. Yeah. Almost almost. If an doesn't say the word preexisting conditions, and I'm shocked every single democratic Ed almost to a T tees up democratic saying, you know, Republicans are trying to take away health care for people with preexisting conditions in congress. I'll fight attempts to raise premiums or deny coverage to people with preexisting conditions. I don't know why you voted to let insurance companies go back to denying coverage for pre existing conditions. I winced demanded that he protect healthcare, but diva young caged when we needed him. Most of this is based off the numerous numerous numerous votes that Republicans had to try to repeal the repeal ObamaCare and also based off the age CA that was failed Republican healthcare plan. That's really gonna wait around just about every Republicans neck in every house district it every single ad. There's an underlying current with that trying to tie that healthcare vote into an overall special interests good governance, lean that the reason the Republicans voted for healthcare this way because they're tied to special interests. And as a democrat, they would not do that. So so and so took x amount of money from why companies right pharmaceutical companies. Drug companies, and then they voted to to do this. And it's sometimes there's no pacing they took money from special interests. It's kind of the Democrats going to go with this to promote their we a lot of Democrats have a anti-corporate pack pledge. So it kind of ties into that. And that's a pretty prominent theme that kind of underlines all these messages, but they using that anti-corporate pack pledge to focus on healthcare. I also think there's another benefit to the healthcare ads. One of the things that I've noticed is that it many Democrats are using it to humanize themselves. They're telling very personal story. So if you're not hitting somebody for their healthcare or form, suitable donations are accepting. They're they're using it to introduce themselves. I'm running for congress because my mother hit a wall and had to pay twenty five hundred dollars for a pill or at first time. I've found that I had cancer. I cried out to God. When when my son had chemo this happened. So so many of those ads have that kind of personal dimension to them. That's an interesting point. And and the the. It's the the campaign finance angled. All this is really interesting. We're seeing obviously healthcare is the most important issue to a lot of people. But when if Democrats do manage to take back the house in this election, it's potentially the the first Bill that we're gonna see coming out of that new democratic representatives could be a campaign finance reform Bill, and that's they're using that to kind of tie together. These arguments on healthcare and taxes to the Republican tax votes in a way that I think has slipped under the radar a little bit in DC. But it won't it won't be under the radar. Once once these folks start introducing legislation on it yet if they win so. Yeah, that message kind of tied to emerging pack. Hold and citizens United who's been really pushing this anti-corporate pack pledge on a bunch of House Democratic challenger signed a letter. I think it was over hundred pushing for this to be the first Bill and Nancy Pelosi has said in interviews that if she is speaker that's something she'll do which is an interesting dynamic ended up itself. Yeah. Potentially try. Two two signals folks. Like, hey, keep me on. So I can I can push this issue that that you're really excited about that. What what are the Senate Democrats doing are? They also hammering on healthcare. Yeah. Maybe unsurprisingly. They're also talk about healthcare. They'd probably take a little bit of a wider look at it. You know, they focus on pre existing conditions. But they don't really have that vote in the Senate that the HEI did not pass the Senate. So they don't really have that point to drive home. So they talk about healthcare kind of broadly one can get sick. That's why everyone needs affordable coverage promising to protect preexisting conditions. But they talk about prescription drugs. A lot too and been fighting the cost of prescription drugs from Minnesota to West Virginia that really ties in and a third healthcare broadly related the opioid crisis. Elicit drugs, rip the fabric of our communities talking about how they want to fight the opioid crisis. And how they're going to do it. What are couple ads that stood out to you? As just, you know, as as you're in your sisyphean slog through your Email box stood out to you is like, hey this. Like this catches my eye. This is pretty good. So for me personally. I'm not a big fan of the ads that has this embody voice telling you, how bad somebody is obviously, they weren't wait. You're not everyone loves those ads attacking law enforcement rioting in the streets. Sure. We stay radical politics dangerous policies those ads wouldn't be made if they didn't work but not for me one. That's really always stuck with me. I'm cheating a little bit. This is a couple of weeks old. But it was from Florida. Eighteen Representative Brian mass Republican had an ad testimonial. Ad from person who he literally gave his life to Brian masses w amputee from a war. And this this guy lost one of his legs as well. And the ad was a Hal about Brian mass. Like, quite literally gave them a leg before Brian masse. Literally gave me a one of his legs fall with thirty years. I was in constant pain. That's it's kind of an outside of the box argument. But it's a really great character argument. Like, I don't know how you cut Ned about somebody literally giving a leg to not show. Good character. That's a great one. I think Brad mice every single day his generosity. Has changed my life. I'm Brian mass tonight proved this message. But pass that to onto the healthcare theme. We've seen a lot of ads from House Democrats or House Democratic hopefuls looking direct into the camera too. Big theme this cycle on one recent one from Tuesday from that big slog from all one thirty was Antonio Delgado. And New York nineteen all the noise going on. I want to speak to you directly. He's faced a lot of quite personal attack ads and his campaign is pushed back again with the disembodied voice ads. But the one he got most recently was him looking right into the camera saying I'm determined to fight for affordable accessible healthcare, not take it away. I'm here. I'm going to fight for you. I'm gonna fight for you on health care. I'm going to fight for you on what matters to you. And that I'll always be always be straight with you. When he's saying this direct into the camera. And I think it's pretty powerful. When when you're not having just some third party voice, attacking it. But the politician themselves saying what they wanna say saying to the voter that's pretty strong, Charlie. Again, having watched the ark of these these ad wars now for a election upon election. Has what has struck you about about this year? That's that's been different opposed to previous elections. You've watched had this morning titled big Jim yesterday. The said, no big Jim was a it's a non non top tier race in Pennsylvania. Where the challenger introduces the viewer to big Jim, which is a huge manure spreading truck and Kennedy. Kennedy is a farmer and spreads the minore all over his opponent's face, which is superimposed over a field. Tax. Remember his lies are so big. I had to take out big, Jim. I approve. This message send the farmer to clean up washing. Okay. A special kind of genius there disturbing special. But I guess the thing that I I've noticed over time is just I mean, the the level of disingenuousness mean campaign ads it's sort of what they're about. You know, they're there's sort of a necessary evil in some ways. But you know, the arc of it is just it's now bears so little resemblance to the truth. At least before there was a modicum of modesty respectability to the ads they were sort of vaguely truthful. Now, they're not even close like you just take a shred a, you know of evidence, and you will blow it up into something major. And so just the flat outlying disingenuousness is just an endemic right now. It's terrible. Well, and Zach this has been something you, and I have been struggling with in terms of how to how to cover these things right because on one hand like the the content of an ad as it is is important because a lot of people are going. See it, and that's going to affect the election. But also there are some that are are kind of piecing together. A thread here connected to another thread to to suggest something that that is not really the case yet one of the ads that really sticks me about that was the the democrat challenging Duncan Hunter and California. I'm a campaign ajar he has faced ED's based off. I believe it was his grandfather whose grandfather masterminded the Munich Olympic massacred, his father said they deserved to die of Palestinian Mexican millennial democrat named. I'm are the jar doesn't get support from the people of San Diego campaign ajar has never met. His grandfather has very obviously disavowed them, but still faces these ads he's fearmongering race baiting ads. And that's it's not the only race that we've seen that too in that. And the fact that these just openly aired on air, not even buying outside by the candidates quite remarkable. Well, and it turns out if an outside group had aired it there would potentially be legal recourse for for company jar, right? But. There. There are actually there are laws that specifically protect basically, there's almost nothing that a candidate can't put in their ads because the law protects political candidates being able to campaign on what they campaign on. Even if in this case, it's it's race baiting. All right. Well, as usual we like to end our nerd cast Aikman's on uplifting. So I think we should just take it out there that back to the salt mine thanks for coming and going to literally watch another hundred as today. Charlie. Thank you for being here as always thanks got. 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1559 Dr. Jessica B. Peterkin on the Journey from Dental School to Practice Ownership : Dentistry Uncensored with Howard Farran

Dentistry Uncensored with Howard Farran

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1559 Dr. Jessica B. Peterkin on the Journey from Dental School to Practice Ownership : Dentistry Uncensored with Howard Farran

"Love howard's podcast. Beat seventeen townie choice. Award winner jay geier on his very own podcast every month. Jay reveals cutting edge practice. Growth secrets that you won't wanna miss subscribe at podcast for doctors dot com It's is just a huge honor for me today to be podcast interviewing dr jessica brayton peter. Md ma known his doctor. Just be the founder and ceo brayton family dental and ministry of dentistry. Dr jessica received her undergraduate degree from bethune cookman university where she studied chemistry graduating from the honors program is a member of the dean's list upon graduation. She completed her master's degree in biomedical sciences. At midwestern western university here in arizona. She then went on receiver doctor dental medicine for a midwestern university illinois. W while in dental school. Dr peterson participated in numerous organizations volunteered countless hours of community service of which he earned the leadership award presented by the international college of dentists and proctor and gamble during dental school throughout her professional career. She has been recognized for outstanding service and speaking opportunities. She's a member of multiple professional organizations including the ada the arizona dental association academy of general dentistry as wolves the national council of negro women. We're not practicing dentistry. Dr peter good enjoy spending time with their family which includes her husband son and their puppy reese's named after a racist feed better. They enjoy traveling. The world exploring the outdoors and performing arts. Thank you so much for coming on the show today. Thank you opportunity. I appreciate it so. I can't believe mike classmate who i had on. The show is now the dean over at midwestern university in chicago. She used to be here. But you went to graduate midwestern versi here but you went to chicago for dental school day and so i had the opportunity to be a part of inaugural class so our graduating class was the class of two thousand thirteen. So that unique opportunity allowed me to be of the first class to be graduated from college of medicine illinois so it was a wonderful opportunity in. I'm very close to my classmates still to this day. So thankful for on being able to go to that campus to pain medicine degree. And what year was that. He fifteen classes when he fifteen mid midwestern in chicago so mid western in glendale here in your backyard was first and then the one in chicago was came. Yeah it did and Even though that's the the flagship campus downers grove campuses the first mid western campus but the dental school started here in arizona and then they started a second one out there and two dozen eleven so and what was your what was your Thoughts of it i mean. Did you like the school did you. Did you have a good experience. I really did so. I grew up. I always tell people. I'm from floor is on his eyebrows. Florida and arizona. Half of my life in both states so going to illinois wasn't adventure ended up itself being From hot state so you know shorter for the humidity on it for the sunshine. In so going there too. You know blizzard winters. It was quite bit ventured but it's a melting pot out there in chicago so i had a wonderful. I'm when i wasn't studying and university itself was very helpful. Might estimates were all schwartz diggins over the faculty so definitely helped me to succeed in create the building blocks necessarily from to be the dentist. I am. I really wanted you to get on the show because i really feel like i graduated in eighty seven. I'm old enough to be your dad. Or i hope not your grandpa but definitely your dad. And what do people look back at my class of eighty seven that we we graduated in a much easier time like when i got to arizona. Didn't have water fluoridation. It didn't have any dental schools either. Did neighbors in nevada and utah. And now there's two dental schools flooring in the water. It's a much different environment now and you You came out recently. I mean two thousand fifteen. It sounds like when you're like me fifty eight. That sounds like yesterday but for you. You probably think hey. I've been a doctor for six years but six years. You're still a baby. What advice do you have. There's a lot of kids in dental school. That are going to be coming out with four hundred thousand dollars student loans in the middle of a pandemic and they're sitting there thinking. Come on just be. This is Did i make a bad decision to become a dentist now. As opposed to thirty years ago would you say to that person. I would say no. You did not. It's being in dental school. of course it's expensive. I'm sure it was expensive back. Dan Relative to you know what a good earning was back. Then you know. Obviously things have changed quite a bit since then because inflation. But either way i think dentistry on ending up with self wanting to dental school is an investment in so as long as you play your cards right. You make financially wise decisions. You can still have the freedom that he wished to have other alternatives to oil. You don't just have to just pay cash or you can also do national health service corps. Scholarship is army scholarships out there. So there's other ways and modalities to be able to pay for or if you decide to go on the other end and do student forgiveness you can go working underserved community an have those loans eight back. Think there's a lot of opportunity to be able to help with the financial aspects. And so i don't feel like that should be the focus. Industry in and of itself has grown tremendously. I expect that will continue to grow especially for those that are behind me. There's so many dentists with iran. now. I think there's there's a niche but we just have to play our cards right and be smart about our finances but by the way mom. Did you ever meet rebecca sissel or rebecca. So do i didn't. She is the associate dean at downers grove illinois college of dental medicine arizona and she was my classmates absolutely. I don't know who would be smarter than earner glass She was just an amazing person. but she she had her own private practice in st louis and she crushed it and then her kids are raised and she decided to have a new life and she sold practice and came to move to phoenix and got a job in mid western and now they promoted associate dean as chicago and she just loves it. And what's funny is she actually thought you know. I'm tired of all the work owning your own practice. I'm just gonna take a break and relax and go be a teacher. And she's like are you kidding me. This job is three times harder than running your own practice. But i think it's so cool. I look at all the people that i know here in town that teach fulltime part time in those schools and they're really dedicated to the mission. I mean they'd make ton lately so many of them work monday through thursday and that's how they make a living but go on their friday for some day rate of that could have opened up their office and doesn't mo composite and been done for the day but they they say that friday for the price of one filling is their most rewarding day. And i think that speaks volumes of the students that are attracted to dentistry. I'm always amazed at the cream of the crop of kids that we get to go into dentistry. So so you walk through your journey. When you got out of school did you. Start with a residency. Did you go tell us about your journey from now. To owning your own practice right here in phoenix arizona which is Brayton family dental tillis. Your journey so mitering was quite interesting. I started off incorporate dentistry what i worked in corporate dental office that kind of had an independent associate ship opportunity. So my name was on the door. look like i own the practice i was the sole provider and had opportunity to be able to manage a team of equipment dental assistants in one and a half hygienists in with two front office so i was able to do that for about a year and a half and then In that i learned how to practice on my own and gain the confidence necessary to be able to provide care without leaning necessarily on another dentist And then. After i did that i ended up going on maternity leave i had. My son was now four years old. But i wanna four months. Maternity leave didn't practice dentistry at all. During that time and then shortly after i decided to go back to corporate i wanted to work in pilot backers and trim private earth from corporate to private practice dental office that was in sun city and i actually have opportunity to only treat geriatric patients literally like every patient was either snow or someone who was already retired and so on we did a lot of rehabilitation cases. a lot of all have four hybrid cases on indus got gotta good steal of you know basically rehabilitating a the warned dentition did that for about a year. I wanted to do it. A little bit longer but Sometime between that year ends. When i went on maternity leave. I was doing pedo on the weekends. Here and there. I started to become a little bit more interested because dental school. I had a lot of pediatric experience. Everyone knew i was going to go to So i decided. I wanna do pedo. I went to go all the way up until i started my practice. I did actually dentistry in a private practice. Small group practice for awhile. And then i went into public. Health worked actually with the brighter away institute which they're amazing they do not only paediatric ministry but finishing for the homeless here in arizona. So i worked. There was really passionate. About what i was doing. But i missed the adult patients in. So i decided to open rates and family dental and basically used all my skill sets from that corporate dentistry opportunity where i was able to run a general dentist. Practice all the way to geriatric patient care from that sun. City office in pediatrics. So here in my office. I provide care to patients ages zero to one hundred and everything in between and do dentistry in each of those subdivisions so pretty much. A building smells for lifetime while and that brighter way. That's hot crisp check. Oh my god for me for me. That's my man crush. I love that guy. And i figured him out. Because you know we're we're both the same age same time. But he went through out of public health ganda. He's been doing. And i figured out what it was. I mean he was born in globe. Arizona mining town kinda reminds me of that. Famous quote by 'em roosevelt's roosevelt's inauguration. Speech i i should read it. The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those like howard who have too much it is whether we provided now for those who have too little and i just think it's so cool when people You know everyone talk about the famous guy with a jet and a big house and you know all all the all the trappings of that but my god half of america does not live like the other half. I've lectured in fifty countries. And i mean i can't believe how bizarre was to see the full avella in rio de janeiro and i was talking to an anthropologist there who just happened to be on the same vacation and staying in the same place. He was telling me that you could take it to the bank that this is pretty much how humans lived five hundred years ago. You're basically going back five hundred years in time if you just take away radio or electronic devices but i just. I just love chris volz cow. You know he's was always motivated to help the poor but and then you did something even greater than that. You like pediatric dentistry. Are you out of your mind. I would rather work at taco bell. If i had to be a pediatric got us. I burn my own license. How where does that come from. You just decided you want to wake up here screaming kids all day. No it definitely takes a special person to have an interest in working with children. But i started label at children at a younger age. I was a camp counselor when i was in high school. I teach dance to the little ones. When i was in chicago and my husband's actually teacher too so i just really love working with children. In one of the things that i realized that it takes a special hygienics special sort of compassion to work with them. When i was working in the corporate dental office we had a pediatric dentist. Dennis that would come in on a couple of times a week but then he ended up having to leave and he taught me everything that he knew. And it further piqued. My interest actually started to give kids a smile program at my university in illinois too. So i kind of it. Kind of started there but I learnt kito from the dentist. Dr douglas are here in arizona. And from there i was like man. I really liked the kids now. Don't get me wrong. But dentistry itself is not many exciting standards. Armies is not exciting. What just connecting with the child and being able to not airs and just talk to them how you feel that moment and how they're feeling moment it's just it's a certain level of genuineness to it that you know to spills like right in. We're able to watch disney movies throughout the day while we're treating these kids. It's really fun. But i can't do it all the time. So that's why. I combined it in my practice where i see children but then i still treat adults. Well more power say. I just have the utmost respect for anybody that can do that. That is that is just so challenging to do when you said you came out of school. You work for corporate. I was that in chicago or or you come back to arizona. And where were you born in arizona. Where jerus- chicago zona. No so actually i was. I'm a middle child. And my older n younger siblings were all born in florida. I am the only child of six that was born in arizona. How did it happen by mom and dad decided to move here because they thought it would be a great idea and my mom was pregnant with me. She had me and then they didn't like an back to florida so long story short. I was born here. I was born in maryvale samaritan hospital. But then i grew up in miami until my parents divorced and then i moved back here when i finished high school. I moved back to florida in a college degree. And that's where. I met my husband so pretty much. Half of my family lives in florida. Half of them here. So i'm a floor is on a girl. Illinois just happened to be a place of adventure bags into their school. And so that's kind of how i ended up fair. Yes but be completely honest. Don't you think you're a siblings vernon florida crazier than the ones that was born. Best of the children's my god you watch the news. Florida is the official bat. Shit crazy you know why is the is the bachelorette crazy at being the the the The details the devil's in the details. They're the only the only state that's totally transparent with all their records so the journalists. So if you're sitting there on your laptop trying to write a story for sacramento you're not gonna find much the it's the same thing that the nfl. you realize. The reason i want wanted the green bay packers to win it all. They're the only nfl. That's transparent owned by nonprofit in green bay and if it wasn't for green bay you wouldn't have any metrics because when they file their ten k reports or whatever they give you all the information about the nfl which you won't even get from the nfl and people don't realize if you talked to an an sports journalists if it wasn't for green bay we would know what we know about the nfl sars money marketing budgets ceiling caps. All these things that are secrets except for green bay. And so so wh- what were your thoughts when you were working for a dso. Some people go in there and say okay. They know that most dentists have very challenging time running their own office and then you got these other people that are managing five hundred thousand offices. And i'm like well. How could you not learn from someone running five hundred offices to run your own but attitude determines your altitude and your aptitude and so if you go in there this horrible attitude you know you don't learn anything but how would you say your journey was through the dso's and how long did it take you before you owner occupied if you graduate in twenty fifteen. When did when did britain family dental open and twenty nineteen is when i opened the doors. June actually of twenty nineteen but prior to that i created the s. In twenty eighteen was looking for a place took me about a year for it to materialize from eighteen. But i feel that the dea so experienced three years from when i graduated That i started the journey trying to materialize. Having my own practice in the dea so experience it was tough because sometimes it's like a secret swim situation especially if you're out with certain companies certain companies will air you with another senior dentists to kind of help show you the ropes. But in this particular scenario. I didn't have that support. What chris i am. I am a so start. So if you me i need to get started and i'm thrown in there. I'm just gonna do what i need to do. Try figure it out It's part of you know my dance. Break ground being an athlete. You know you just do like do what you have and keep it moving. And so i kind of learned those skills early on in this kind of in that experience so i don't think necessarily has that expense but again like you said it's based on your attitude. Go in there with open. Mind mike. i'm gonna learn as much as i can. This may not be my forever job. But i'm sure we'll learn everything i need so that i can have a better career than than it should prepare you experience that i've had leading up to me. Having my own practice has helped. Prepare me for this moment and has helped to help me decide what i want my culture from office to be what kind of care i wanted to provide with things work and didn't work in for mare and to be honest like there's people that i met along the way who stopped working for certain places and then we reconnect later on and now they were here so i mean i think that it all comes back full circle. I always liked to podcasts. Interview the dsl leaders because the kids and don't kindergarten. Ask me too because they're gonna come out of school and they're gonna they gotta pick one of these. Dso's so they like to see the man behind the name. And but oh my god. Everytime i published one i just count the seconds for the emails and started coming in. Why are you promoting this guy. And and all through human history. No one wants competition. Everyone wants to rule the world. I mean You know everybody wants to be king. Acquainted dictator the world according to them and a lot of these dentists here in arizona. I in fact. I think most dentists don't even understand why they make so much money. I mean if there wasn't for the arizona state board of dental examiners that has arrested every dentist for mexico. Who's come up here and started a practice in guadeloupe where they don't have one dentist in all guadalupe because remember the rich dentist from america No dentist for guadeloupe is better than a dentist trained in mexico. I mean god forsake and you know so if it wasn't for that restraint of trade with cars when gm chrysler and ford mega cars. They got to compete with japan and germany and korea because they can ship these cars back and forth it. Healthcare one of the reasons healthcare and government are the most insanely bloated dysfunctional institutions. You could ever find. It's because they don't have any competition and so when these dentists are talking about They make all this because they're so damn smart. I'm like. I'm pretty sure you did a deal with the mob set up the state boards and they provided the mob protection to keep all the competition out. So it's all like they think it is crazy crazy so i want to ask you the million dollar question. I get that. I cannot answer. I always get young girls in dental school to say that they're troubled. Because you have the baby of a four year old baby and did you name it. Britain family dental his name was actually a brayton dispersedly. Ms nice is middle. Names not family dental now my husband got dibs on the middle of the but the only thing that matters i mean really at the end of the day i mean you know. A hundred billion humans have lived in died since mitochondrial eve and we don't know any other names thoughts. We don't know a thing about him but their only job they were supposed to do is reproducing offspring. And we're here today. Because for two hundred thousand years our species did their job. And that's telling young girl that she wants to have a little britain family dental baby but would she be a better mom if she was an employee didn't have all that ownership over her head and just did her monday through friday. Eight to five or be an owner operator. Because it's family first dentistry second so in a family first dentistry. Second situation would you advise her to be an owner operator or an employee. That's to answer. Because i think it just depends on the woman. I've tried to make my lifelong career as an associate. And i can only speak from my own personal experience and that of my friends as an associated with the issue. Is that when you have some of these needs You know you want to be able to go to your tub recital or performance in the middle of the day or you have a doctor's appointment that you want to take your job sometimes. It's hard to get off work now. You may have you know sick a or personal time and things like that. But you're on someone else's plot or having my own practice even though it does you know. Put a ball and chain on my ankle as far has the responsibility is concerned. I honestly feel like. I have more freedom on the on the front end because i can. I can make my schedule. What i wanted to be honest. Some people don't like this thing about me. It's okay but my purchases. Only open tuesday through thursday and a lot of people that it was going to stay that way for initial because i was being an associate for another offense but in reality i plan on keeping it that way. We have fridays for amihai p patients every now and then to provide care for you know larger cases but for the most part through thursday. When i'm working and outside of that i'm home with my family and it provides me the relief that i can go bust my tail. I worked hard to At bus might tell Goes i'm always tired tuesday clippers. Don't call me which is a friday through monday. I'm able to be all in at home. And on the friday that i am working. You know it's half a day in so i'm able to with that time perfectly. Have that work life balance so that you know no matter where you are whether you're in private practice for yourself or as associate on you just have to prioritize what's important to you for me freedom of being able to make my schedule in able to run the office how i want and being able to live that that perfect work life balance without being told where i should be at any given moment. It's it's refreshing. I wouldn't give it. I wouldn't trade it for the world. Now is your husband. Is he in dental whoa. He's not he's actually education so he currently is a educator for a basis which is charter. School program here in arizona. What he's actually a phd Asu as well. He's going to be in education with a concentration in music and so his desire is to go into you know creating his own charter program. Eventually and not the collegiate level. Okay so now. You got me wondering what's going on here because your husband's a music major and your name. Dental town is deemed dancer. The arts so so why. Why is your name answer dancer. I am so okay. So i can say i was so since i've had my son not so much but even when i was pregnant with still dancing to be a part of a semi professional dance company in illinois on each. I think i explained that earlier. I think i. I teach dance. Elliott jazz tap modern Children out in chicago. And so i haven't is in the teacher not like right this moment in the next five to ten years to have my own dance studio dance has been my outlet my entire life and so that's what what am i true passions. Wow and That is amazing. Very amazing i mean dance. I think there are some. And i think we have were missing the dance gene. I'm pretty positive that it was replaced with the red hair in the frankel. They took out the dance and put in the red hair in the front. But the more power to ya And it's really good exercise. it is definitely. Yeah and they say go for excise. I've always want to say. Do you have a mere your house. I'm pretty sure you're not exercising. And remember i go with the only thing i like about golf is that you can have a hot dog and a beer on each hole. If i was ever going to be an olympic athlete it would definitely be curling. I want to do this for week at hold a beer and andrew. Your olympic ideal. I want to ask you this. You posted a long time ago. You post about the lutheran medical centers on east said as i embarked my fourth and finally your dental school and just a little over two months. I've been taking time to thoroughly research. Possible options post graduation and these include a eg de gps with plans to protect practice in your home. Sarah zona so my question is what would your advice be to the eight jeep. Ers got four hundred thousand dollars. Student loans do. Would you recommend that. Would you recommend just get a job. I graduated on may eleven. And i had my office opened. September twenty one four months to do it. but i'm a little on the hyper side but So what would you recommend knowing everything you know. Now what would you recommend. I'm always going back that it depends but it's like the best way to say it because i for me i'm a i'm a quick start so i only get going. I don't want to spend time in anyone's like sheridan or talking to people. I wanted to get treating patients so But if you're not good if you have you know you feel like you need more hand skills. You need more assistance in getting exposure. You're not kind of like for me. I'm more like focused on. What's the word in. School is focused on making sure that i built my technique. 'cause at that time had all the time in the world to to build my technique when i graduated. I focused on eight. Some people still don't have that technique portion down pack like those times are when it's necessary to do at age eighty eight or gp are obviously if you want more an implant experiences and things like that where you have more advanced case experiences Of course you know. Gpo or add if they offer those types of experiences would be beneficial but for me. I just knew. I wanted to do right in buttered in shape for the most part in probably do some morsi later to get any skill set and the. So opportunity definitely worked for me. I was able to see a normal schedule of patients in provide that care and build my speed over time and so on. I think it just depends on what you prioritize where you are. You'd have to be honest with yourself around regulation whether or not you have the confidence to just go out there and provide care or whether or not you still need a little bit more support to help you through and navigate your career as as s and so. Your website is britain fan so it's b. r. e. t. o. n. fm brockton fam. And you basically you like Tooth colored root canals crowns. oral surgery. the thing that stuck out on me the most is when podcast interview these owners of. Dso's how they consider bread and butter dentistry that can kind of like public health. That look eight nap. Percent of emergency room visits or on the genetic in origin. So if you can't handle a toothache and he and get him out of pain with an extraction or root canal a you're not a real doctor and they're going to have to go to the emergency room to see a real doctor and then say on canals. Could you imagine german hospital with a broken arm. And they say we don't arms we bring. We don't like doing arms. We decided that we just don't wanna do arms in these people will look at it Office and my gosh when they opened up an office within six months. If it's not here. We're i want to make sure i'm quoting a right. If they're not doing seven root canals a month extractions is a must and then the basics the crown and bridge and fillings and cleanings all. That's extra but if they're not doing seven root canals a month the immediately. Just try to give you know greater fool theory. It's like today. Tesla tesla stock you are. Hopefully you're drunk or you're in grammar school. i. I don't know who else you would be. I mean tesla if you sold tesla at its market cap today you could buy every other car company. Chrysler ford chevy general motors toyota lexus. You could buy the three ones in india you could buy all so to say tesla is not overvalued in fact when we look at price ratios Warren buffett. oh. He said they should be six to seven years and a lot of people say well these pull that number out of a hat well mirisho and when are descendants for came over here in what was it a eighteen forty five a lot of them the only way they gotta ride was ed to be an indentured servant for six or seven years when they got here so. There's a lot to that if you got out of school. And i said hey if you come work for free in my office for seven years i'll give you the whole damn office. A lot of dentists would take me up on that tesla's trading at fifteen hundred times earnings. So it'd be like saying. Hey if you come work for me for one and a half milleniums. I mean i mean. It's insane so so the dental offices they do the same thing if they set up a dental office. And this i do and seven hundred dollars a month and blah blah blah greater fool theory. They sell to someone else. So my question to you. Is i know half the kids come out and they already hate into and i and they did like one and they said i'm not doing more and don't no i'm not pulling it into. I don't like that stuff and their doctor. Public health is one of the twelve specialties. Would you say some kid. They obviously have a scar somewhere from a root canal. Assume the mb to bit him in the bud or some something went wrong. But what would you see that kid with four hundred thousand dollars. student loans. Eight nap percent of arizona. Merger visits or jan gordon. And she's starting your own practice. She's already decided she's not extractions. I was gonna say something. That was funny. But i'll i'll say that so it's like we'll be where the money resides like this guy out there with this new mean about. He was selling a car actually and he was like b. Wouldn't money reside so like you gotta do. What's profitable aside from that era. Dentists like you said you should be able to extract and root canals. I don't see if you don't have the skill set. Okay take more continuing education and training to be able to do that. I agree with you. I feel that it's important for us to be able to be able to treat entire patient. Whatever we diagnose now of course there are certain cases that may be more complicated Require referral to a specialist I'll be honest. I do our t. from by customer to anterior in the night extract. Pretty much everything except for like really complicated impacted molars but i try to pick at least one or the other do some of the i don't like or canals but i can do effectively confidently by two tiers if i do it more. It's going to take me three hours. That's not profitable for me in my office extractions. I can do them really quick. Get taking care of patients coming here for wisdom teeth extractions. All the time inc. Something do it well and if you have to do a little bit of some of the other things okay. Great but. I don't think it's fair for you to completely All of the root canals and extraction and only do conon bridge because then you have to send patients everywhere you lose on their trust in the process in. It's not really good business. In my opinion so on i got some. I'd i'd challenging morning. I had to fire my cross eyed digital system. Because i found out she was seeing the patient on the side. My lord my god. That's a good joke. I love that joke. But i want you to switch gears. The the one thing i noticed about the dso's and again our governor ducey made a law that if you're licensed do any anything in any other state you can do arizona and the the evidence of that was actually registered nurses. When ducey found out they were going to ireland to recruit registered nurses and move them all the way he said this insane and then when he found out that most of the registered nurses will. I would love to move there. But i'm in texas. I don't wanna take the boards and all but but what the trade off that is. Eighteen out of every hundred deaths in arizona work for. So it's ground zero it's exploding. It's big my god. You go look at their on their corporate sheet. They got a dozen people. That are just in patient dentists. Recruitment trying to dentists. It's why they stopped going into the rural area because they can't get young single dentists who want to dress up like a peacock and go find a primate to meet with an have children. You can't do that. In e loy arizona you wanna be in phoenix. Increase your odds that you can get one person drunk enough to say yes so so. They've written off the rule and they're seeing urban but they're massively recruiting. And i always i associate that with marketing. The greatest dental offices didn't build themselves on marketing. They built themselves on patient retention. I mean drive from here to vegas and look at hoover dam just one little damn not letting any of those new patients out the back door and you can't swim across lake and so i always think to myself well. Why do you have ten employees trying to recruit dentists. How many employees do you have trying to find out why the last ten quit and on dental town. It's always the same. And maybe think of you because you're in this ministry of dentistry and and you have a mission that a dentist was on the show and he said that this person came in and they were doing filling and they're really poor in a lot of crap went wrong in their life and he felt so sorry for you said what will i add this to phnom. I'm going to do the filling in front of and behind it but it's no charge and the office said no. He's like whoa. Whoa you tell me. i'm a doctor. I can't do a free filling on this pace. And i'm only do concern. She said no he he loved he quit. He said when your office won't let you do free dentistry on the poor. It's not but and then another one is the love these temp agencies. That's another thing. Dental recruiting and temp agencies are exploding. Like a crack epidemic. Because these are saying you know. I had this really tough case on friday and it was a mole root canal and it was on the top or the back. Whatever and they're scared and worried about it all night and they go in there and they find out that they're they're one assistant. They've been working for six months He gets attempt today. So we get to do this. Scary root canal was when he couldn't even pick out of a police lineup. And i'm like so. I want to hear from you. What advice would you give. Not just the dso's any owner operator. Dennis has associate being close to much closer to you than say. I was with ed soccer in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven. What advice would you give them to make. Dentist associate employees happier and stay longer and not job jump from job to job. Let them have a voice. I mean it's their license. You're you're making money off their license now granted. You don't make a lot of money off of missiles they're not you know working at rs you are but the same time they have a saving because it's still license so you know of course you know you're running your practice and you wanna make sure that you're doing everything away that you want as the practice owner but at the same time you're bringing this person to your household is getting married. You're dating this saying you may work with them forever or maybe a short period of time but you want them to have a waste. I feel that if new dentists have voiced an essay or you at least include them on the conversations relative to day-to-day practice. You have more dentists feeling comfortable and confident with staying inocencio chips. I know for me in every associate ship. That i've had i've had a lot and i did not want to have the first job i had. I wanted to stay forever until i started my practice. But not having a say definitely puts you in a position to where you feel like. You're working in dental meal or you're just a aaron boy or grow. If you will just doing things that it will tell you to do. And then that's it you don't if you speak up then you know you're creating problems. You're not a team player. If everyone would as if as practice owners inhabit desire to one day have an associated as well. I would wanna make sure that might so. It fills harvard in that. They have a seat at the table to the lake decisions and to discuss day to day operations and that includes if they wanna be able to give back or you know any marketing ideas that they may have or if they have a different way that they need their scheduled to be or treatment planning bills type of things Working hand in hand to create a family environment. And what letter grade would you give that family environment. Today in your average is so shaming. Do you think they're kind of clothes. Do you think they've got a long way to go. Whoa letter grade. Would you give them. I would say it's a long way to go. Because right now i see for my my age group migration. There's a lot of dso's out there in disconnect between the doctor and the actual organization in of itself and sometimes you know there's just it's a top down approach versus it being like we're on the same page. The altruistic approaches is known right now so I feel that if if more people with a state. If the are going to becoming more more i don't think they're gonna take over dennis shape but if there's gonna be more of them. They need to start considering as their way of being able to in a rich. And associate if you want to associate to stay. You don't want to constantly have to recruit equal then you might want to listen to what this has to say and again. I don't like to pick on because we don't know what goes on behind closed doors. I mean when i whenever. I meet a kid five years out of school. They've had five different jobs five years out of school. I mean you'll never me one that got us school work place five years. I mean there's very very rare You know it's the norm. It's not the ideal. But i think that The dso's when you listen to them talk and you listen to their their lectures all kinds that they really think that they're the leave and say they'll say well you know one of these is going to be walgreens. Probably gonna be hard and one's gonna be. Cvs it'll probably be aspen. And though they'll probably have eighty five percent of the market in ten or twenty years. And i just think okay so and then come out of school six thousand graduates year. It takes some five years of working for all realized they'd rather just quit and work at taco bell than do that. So you got six thousand times. Five thirty thousand to play with and i don't think you have. I mean they. They're looking at one. Hundred and fifty thousand. Dentists are all going to compete over. I think they're disillusioned by the thirty thousand That play with and being here in arizona is always the same complaint. We'll i went in there. And the said i had four fillings and so i made it appointment. I went back to have them done and that dennis no longer works there and then the new dentist said that i had six fillings and then i got a second opinion and she said i had three. And it's like dude. You're a dental office and walgreens is automated in france with a atm machine. Made right here in scottsdale. I blew my mind when i was there. This was telling me well. You know their insurance card load prescription the card and patient. Atm machine sticks anabolic. Comes down pills. Out of a hopper homes on oprah and i am looking at this machine and then i look at it and says we're gonna get the name of his probably trade whatever and it's scottsdale arizona. So get back here and then call them. Oh yeah the whole walgreens pharmacy the whole damn deal a racket set up by the government and the state boards that if you're gonna pay one of our boys money to count them out and dentistry is guilty of that crime too because it there. Are you know win before they set the state boards in one thousand nine hundred healthcare winning one percent of the economy. You had doctors moving here from every corner of the earth and there wasn't a problem finding a doctor or paying for one but when they started setting up the control system to get rid of competition and they always start out. Well we're just doing it to protect you. And that's what mob does mob you pay for protection you don't realize you're getting paid production by lido So but the bottom line is i just think that They it's the thing marketing you you look at the dental marketing. None of the none of the advanced for five hundred countries like a dentist will do a new patient. Clings an x ray. But all the advanced like southwest airlines and chase. It's all rewarding their existing customers. They're all their marketing dollars. Spent is rewarding customers for life. A dentist is trying to get him in the door. One time bam thank you ma'am money as you can run and and dentistry needs to do a lot less marketing and a lot more Invest in why this patiently the last. I mean they don't even ask him. Psychographic was every new patient. Well did you just move to arizona. Welcome zona no is your ten years. Oh my god you haven't been to the dentist and ten years. No you're the third okay. Well i don't need another names or anything but why did you go back there. And they always tell you and the dentist. The dentist listens of that says. Well i don't. I don't wanna do that. I just rather have some banner ads on facebook and get a new patient and it's all about customers for life. I mean hell there. I got a patient from an end on this in this town because he don knapp nitrous. You're an end on. Donna's you're not a massage therapists. You idiot i mean how could you be an ended on us and not heard about nitrous. Oxide know that some people really like it. I mean it's a commitment for customers life our marketing for life. And so how does worked but when you start out you don't have any patients. Word of mouth referral. So when you start out a new practice what marketing worked for you to get patients in the door for the first time and then later try to keep them for life. but what what. What's working for you for new patients. Initially i was a lot of facebook marketing. So weekly i would get on facebook and do like to talk tuesday's when i was first starting the practice before i even saw my first patient. I was going live in showing the progress in the renovations to the building. On and things like that but Facebook marketing was a big thing going on every week. Just doing the talk in sharing with the patients might incite on dental care. Only spread simple topics such as why patient may need a dental brown or What is traumatic inclusion to help patients to be educated in also share some of the services and benefits that we have here at our office in that spread like wildfire One year anniversary of we started off very slow in june july. Twenty eighteen then by june of twenty twenty despite the pandemic We were averaging about sixty mutations a month. that's going to take out to like about forty five fifty but My patients are being retained in their accepting treatment and we now have the it program those patients who or refer other patients to us and we have a lot of families you know. I'll see see a great grandmother one of my patients and then you know her children so things like that. So i feel that A philosophy or my mission able to provide care for multi generational families for lifetime becoming a real realistic for me in that families are referring their family members and their friends. It started off with social media. And now it's just taking good care of people you You wrote an amazing book. Empower now true stories from fourteen young minority professionals volume one. And tell us about that book and that journey. You've had a baby. I've written a couple books. I we said that writing a book is like making a baby. I mean it takes nine months and it's not easy and you're pregnant the whole time. What did you think of the journey. Writing a book and that's volume one. Is there going to be a volume two or did you learn your lesson for life. What about your own baby are you know. Are you thinking You're britain you're one of one or is it one of more calm or and same with the book babies and books arizona question so the baby you know. I'm a believer in god. Wanted when it's time again it'll be time again. We're not preventing so lord willing whenever that time comes. I'll have some good news to share. I'll be back on and let you now but As far as the book is concerned amber robbins. She's the md on. She's a very well known on Are not excuse me physician. I'm not sure what state she lives. I think she's in the mid west but we collaborated through an online group called Women in white copes and from that group there was another young black american doctors and she kinda invited on some of us to partake in the book. I was actually contributing authors. Might book on per se but i was a contributing authors co author. I do have a book and so on. But as far as that process was concerned on this basically being able to share my story as A triple minority a black woman as you can see. But i'm also left handed cute bearings in dentistry of believe it or not my mom. Actually when i was applying the for shows like they let left people in. Yes they do. We ostracized what they do on so i even had some jobs that discriminated against me because i was because they had originally bring or fixed right delivering a unit and. It didn't work out for me. Because i wasn't able to maneuver properly so you know there's some some challenges that come with it but ultimately dinner day you make do what you have and here i am so i don't feel that any of on my my sort of Disadvantages have caused me to live with disadvantaged life i'm married or have a whole mountains is in. I have a practice here. I enjoy my life. And i think that you know. Of course there's student loan debt in. There's other responsibilities. Where i live a full life and i'm grateful we can have and there's no no mountain to two for me to climb so the the book on amazon there's it only has five star. Reviews empower now tells the true stories of fourteen young minority black professionals and their journeys to success through both obstacles and victories. They were able to fulfill their dreams in their stories. You will find helpful. Tips inspiring quotes and life lessons coming from individuals in various fields including medicine education engineering and dentistry just like they are fulfilling their dreams You can. it's time for you to be empowered. Now we're we're does your. I mean when. I listen to you any anything Everything about you. Just reeks of like motivation. You go girl. You're ready to go. Why where does that come from. As opposed to your friends and dental school who just thought the whole world sock and there was nothing you can do and we're all gonna die. We're does this optimism. Come from where you want to rise to the challenge as opposed to running and hiding in the bottom of the grand canyon. I'm naturally hard. Headed has no mother Choosing my parents divorced. When i was seven years old She has such great in just just On she raised three children with the support of my grandkids and my aunts and uncles here but cheat. She worked hard at it and you know. She dedicated to god but she was like. I'm gonna do everything. I can in in trust that they're going to be great people. I'm a dentist brother. He's a judge on here in arizona. My younger brother. he's a teacher. And i you know. I pops to my mom. She's such a hard worker. She instilled in me in me being the only girl on. I didn't have a choice like my punish leads. Were you know. Eagles stand in the corner punishments. Where you go write a essay or you go to a report on this or write sentences. She she just really everything that she did in. Raising us was methodical to help us to be well rounded people and so i should all be optimism in the ability to rise to beijing on to her and then of course being given that i took advantage of the opportunity and listen to advice. Make sure that. I didn't have to experience it. In order for me to learn the lesson. I took every less than that. She learned in her struggles and throughout life and tried to make sure that. I didn't have to to those same things routine. Those same mistakes owed most definitely feel that. It's definitely got me to where i'm at and despite you know obstacles that i personally had to encounter i was able to. You know face them head on and there wasn't always victory. Sometimes i had failures but ultimately you know i ve persevered when you were in school. Did you steal. I mean when i went to dallas. Go any anybody would say it was mostly a man's profession. But when you were going to school did you still think it was more a man for fashion or is it already made a huge shift towards womanhood. It was two to one or three to one. I think in my class there was three men to everyone woman so it wasn't a lot of us So and that. I was the first black student of my university so was it was challenging on this because sometimes instructors would make certain remarks that you're like at one time i had someone who wasn't someone for my university of variance and i did an internship somewhere in there like the receptor was like. Why would you choose hygiene. Why do you have to have your cake and eat it too. Or why didn't you choose hiding. Why do you have to have your cake and eat it too. And i was like very soon sexist. So i feel like i had a lot of discrimination in that regard Even with pumping. When i when i first had my son and i was in associated. I had to pump wrestler. I breastfed over two years. And you know they were to want to put me in the bathroom. When i'm like no i'm not going to. Would you eat your lunch next to the toilet. Like no things like that You know of course. There's been issues with leaving to like i said earlier and and being a minority in racing a black woman You know had its challenges as well but being a woman in general it can this. Profession were seeing evolve to where there's equal representation but there's still some things that have to change from the good old boys club win when it comes to the profession of dentistry business ownership. Everyone's always like. Oh you have your own practice. Oh how do you do that the same way you do. You know. I just have to go could dinner when i get home know. I embrace all my roles. Equally in hungary has supports me in that and a mom. Show me how to do it so you know. This is why when anybody tells me how great america is. You always know one thing. They've never seen another country and My gosh the remember. The first time. I stayed in poland and hong kong and a couple of deals where i'm what's in a commercial it was it was Washing machine commercial and here. We are in poland where i went there and new ninety percent kathy and the girls doing the commercial. I don't know what she's saying. I honestly polish bush's topless at her washing machine pouring the soap in and i saw it on gong and jen and here in america. If you have a film where somebody has ak forty seven. Rambos shoots one hundred people. It's a family film. But god forbid someone whip out of mammary gland used a feeder offspring and they run for the doors when i hear people get mad about nursing and public. It's hard for me to just unload on like are you that stupid. How could a body part that created life. B b hide from it but ak forty seven and a grenade and i mean how many how many people are killed in the average arnold schwarzenegger film a hundred. But gotta mammary gland. I mean we gotta draw the line somewhere. I think the real or complex is where we're gonna draw that line. I mean people are just insane. The older i get the more. I'm beginning to realize that i'm probably the only normal person on earth and i you know it's I mean imagine the weight of living alone as the only intelligent person left on earth. I mean they're just crazy. And i feel sorry for that but i tell you my breast pumps story because it was eighty seven and i had this genetics. I don't want to say her name because might get mad band. she I went in there on the weekend. And i thought you know our lab area so i'm going to clean all up and i'm cleaning this stuff up and found this thing and i'm like what the hell's that and looked old and i don't even know what that is. I threw that away monday morning. Oh my god eight o'clock where's my brass machine and like i don't know i didn't even know. Well that's what it was. Then who cleaned out the elvis. I did on sunday and luckily the trash ahead and come on the monday. Yeah and they went out and found the damn thing. But i didn't even know she was doing it. That's how secretive adila was. But my gosh this country's got so long to go to grow so. Did you like writing. The book did you. Was it a good experience. It doesn't really was sushi to to share with our writers and actually the process of doing the book sales. And how are we went about. That was pretty cool as well but I'm gonna ready my own now. I feel like i got a little little taste of what it's like I definitely have some ideas in different things. I'm working on currently so you look and you You talk on a lot of topics. i mean. you You speak on my gosh. You overcoming anxiety overcoming the odds introverted and successful mother daughter issues letting go the past accepting yourself. Moving on after a breakup self-employed star. I mean so many of these things it makes me think that your massively grounded agree. I think i am. You know i'm biased. But i definitely feel that. I am and would you say that grounded came from from just while reading. You just learned you. Just read everything your hands on or was it the school hard knocks. I was as a combination of both Some of the heart nuts. I experienced had nothing to do with my own decision making but just the cards that i was candidate but the the being well read came from. You know my thirst for knowledge at a young age because of my mom. That was our disciplined. But then i started liking it right in so i i just try to a journal as well and i think that helped as well to be able to express myself in learn how to process certain experiences in in use it as a way to be able to help other people. My husband always says we go through things not cells. Were to help other people. And so that's basically what i do like. My life is a book. And i can use my stories to help anyone at any phase of life whether it be someone who's in professional school to become a dentist or someone who just barely can make it out of school I think that we all have lessons in life that we are gifted with opportunities to be able to give back in. That's kind of what. I like my life purpose and mission is. Wow that's That's that's amazing. I'm so during this pandemic. I'll never forget what i was on podcast. And everything the The president of the and the last thing. When i said so you know obviously so would what's on your mind now obviously a pandemic dumb ass. I mean obviously that he blew my mind. He went right to suicide. That this pandemic is i read an arizona that they're having three times the domestic violence kohl's and usually when i'm dentists off themselves. I mean every year that i've been in arizona. I know of at least one sometimes two or three and usually it's multifaceted for a lot of times it's economic. They lost a lover. Their substance abuse or mental health is and now it just seems like there's just like totally normal people that seem happy and successful and kids and has been the all american dream and they just they off themselves. What would you say that during pandemic and then more in general dennis have always the always report that they're burned out that it's so stressful and they just some guy i was lecturing saint louis and this guy said that his biggest regret in life his brother became a plumber and always wishes to help lead have been smart enough to be a plumber. Like you're a doctor of dental surgery and you wish you could bet a plumber. I mean What would you say to those people. I think that prioritizing yourself because you're no good if you can't take care of yourself like i feel like we give so much in our profession as dentists being as selfless people in in having is dire to give back to the community because regardless of payment things like that We we are service providers Healthcare to to those that are in need people that are in pain on who have fears and anxieties. But before we provide care to other people we have to provide care our own selves. I think a lot into like prioritize family even family sometimes can get in the way of being able to take care of ourselves so prioritizing self care and making sure that you're getting help mentally as well I went through a season really bad own last year. Because i lost quite a few relatives onto coleman in in other reasons home and Just started questioning like existence of things like that. Just getting deepen thought and i realize like okay. I need to talk to someone just like if if you have a situation where like you said us earlier. Arocca on you. Don't just let the army broken walk around in expect that it's going to heal properly without taking the necessary precautions. You go to the doctor. They may put a cast on it. be need to go so that it can heal properly. Sometimes you need that mentally too. So my therapist helps needs to be able to process what's going on in What's going on around in within me to be able to see a world in a different view to where i'm not looking at it from you know a dysfunctional standpoint that will basically not cloud me from making better decisions or keep me from being able to have a hope or desire to live on one of my best friends. She dislodged her cousin a couple of weeks ago. It was eight years old on in. He committed suicide and only maybe ten but he was very young kid. I always think like why would have young child commit suicide with a lot of people are in that stage they feel like there's no more hope you know and i thought that we have to take care of ourselves and know that you know that there's always hope in that. Sometimes it's just better for you to step away and get that that necessary support for your mental health and you'll think yourself later because then you'll be better for your family will be better for your practice and your spouse and everyone else and it's also multifactorial like i read papers that one on a candidate where they took a hundred people the last hundred people. Because you know how you pick your sample size is just as important. How you pick is important as size but he he did. One hundred and fifteen percent of them had viral infection. in their brain that had stopped the serotonin. And so you know it's it's always oxfam's razors always Oh they lost their job. They kill themselves. Connect the dots with humans are so complex. It's always multifactorial. Genetics viruses bacteria. I mean we oversimplify things until they don't even make sense anymore but gosh darn them. Yeah it's it's really a complex issue. It's kinda sad. So what is your so. We're in this two year. Last year was twenty. Twenty kinda dead on arrival. And we're done with that and now we've We've kinda gone through the first one. Everyone wants me to ask my guest. Would you doctor just be. Would you take the vaccine today night yet today. Now right this moment not yet. The reason being is. I feel that in addition to me doing my own research in in in trying to get a better understanding about it i sat. There are other people who have more of a risk than i do. Who still haven't gotten it yet. I have physicians who work in the er. That still haven't gotten it yet. I feel that it needs to go through the proper channels to make sure that everyone receives it or in a position on whether at most risk but in addition to that i feel that if anyone gets the vaccine you have to make sure you understand. Exactly what's going on you wanna be. Well read you want to understand a side effects. You wanna understand on the research behind it. You want to understand a little bit about biology and not just like jump to conclusions in eastern fed on. And that's with everything. Not just the vaccine. That's what flutes. Whatever you put into your body on what i. I'm as far as i'm concerned personally right now. I'm not ready and we'll do you do you think i'm getting ready is around the corner or do you think it's a long way off. I think it's more or less just me tried to see what's happening. I have a lot of friends throughout the country. Whole i'm i'm seeing how they're operating in their states and some people are just not even getting distribution yet in their hiring score their populations where they're working in the hospital on either local works in a hospital. He's not writing. Carey is actually like security guard. He didn't get the vaccine. He got quoted nineteen if those people were not even really getting vaccine. I don't know. I just just trying to see it. Better understand like. I think now with new administration. I don't know what's going to happen With distribution. I would hope that it will get better. I don't know on. But right now. I feel that there wasn't really a true plan. Statewide and nationally and how distribution were to take place even though they have those tears. Because i know people who don't even work with patients who got the vaccine already and then there's people who need it will get it so i'm just waiting to see kind of how the organization happens within the next few months and then go from there. Yeah my you wanna hear my my thoughts but you know. I voted for the first time i nine hundred eighty when i graduated high school. That's when i was of age and now the last one was twenty twenty so forty years and what. I don't wanna get into politics. They don't like it when you talk about religion sacks politics and violence so let's do all four and one at once every president only job is to make you miss last one. It's like they've been walking down a stairway for forty years ten steps down every four years. And i'm just like okay. No one's going to be worse than this guy in the next one's worse and then it's like it's like it's the highway to hell at the us presidency and only the young or optimize like. Oh the next one. They're going to be so good. And i'm just like by sorry. Are you like real little. Are you a grammar school. Because they all are horrible. They all win. When they're lying lips are moving. And you know it's just My gosh so but are you. Do you think twenty twenty one is going to be more opt. Are you more optimistic on. Twenty twenty one then last year. Did you think this year's going to be better than last year. Are you optimistic. What what challenges do you see around the corner for you. I feel like it can be. It's just hard to feel that you could plan 'cause like i'm a big planner on the girl that carries us colorful planner with all the stickers. You know the washy tape and twenty twenty just made me burn suspect one twenty twenty one. I couldn't even buy a calendar. Because i was like i don't wanna play in in the whole year falls apart but i do have some optimism on for this year. I don't really know where to place it. I'm dislike just hoping that that in some aspects things will be better like. I know for a fact that you know. I anticipate that industry dentistry. Things will be better because patients are not afraid to come to the dental office. Now you know they've they've come in to give their cleaning. We're not beat us like you know we're all going to die because we work in dentistry as as it was when we first encountered the pandemic back in march of last year. I think people are a little bit more comfortable with coming into the officers because we have reported calls as far as like regular day to day life on. I hope that you know with with other measures being taken. In addition to the vaccine that people will Hope that it's resolved. I really honestly it. It's so early is too early to tell I would say by twenty twenty two. I anticipate life being relatively back to normal. And that's all i'll leave it at that. I by june. I can't release. I won't be able to tell. I guess we'll have to see. That is true when you start doing planning once you get out on beyond five years. I mean by. We won't even know what the stock market will be traded next week. Let alone five years. Well i hope. I can't believe we went over an hour. My gosh. that was the fastest our my life. Oh my god so go to amazon. And by the way. I'm gonna push that out that book out empower now true stories and i'm wondering i'm wondering what did you have a. I wonder what's thread. would be like the book threat. You the book thread is one. And you know oprah book club. I'm you know. I told my boys all the time by the way. Don't take any advice on raising children from me. But i take it very serious and all all to say the young kids like you. You don't think how many books we ready to become a dentist. And they just come out with that new amazon selling books and all this but i would go and going to catholic school user your author search first and then your your book deal but I only made boys. I am eight four boys. I never met a girl but anytime any phd with any resume wrote a book on raising young boys. I read it and you know. All leaders are readers. And that's what i gotta say. Take your child more serious than a root canal. If you read pathways paul by steven cohen. You gotta read one book by dr on raising a baby and then when they were older these are things i remember we did. Dear will every day drop everything and read one hour and we all do it together and and then for business. This is what my Boys and whenever they'd want to do something they'd wanna go to disneyland or they'd wanna buy some nike shoes or anything commercial. Say well did the tooth fairy make those shoes. Was that the easter bunny. Who made those nike shoes. And they knew they go. Is his name mr nike. And i'd say no it's knives a track coach like your track coach at school and he was an oregon and so then we would read the biography and by each one share of the company. Because if you buy a share they had to send you the quarterly earnings it. We're going to disneyland. We bought a share a disneyland and we just we always kept. I always tried to connect the product or service. They light with the human. Who's who's gonna no longer with us. Who brought this to and you learned that they were all very complicated people. Do i mean henry ford and disney. I mean that other parts of lives that were just shockingly horrible and embarrassing and all that stuff people are just so they get to learn not that their idols walk on water but their idols are human tune. Their idols did really good in this department. They really screwed up and other departments and then they'll and what was the last thing is. Is this what i went here. Because of your resume where you said you love to travel and my boys still say all the time you say you ended your your biography with enjoy spending time with their family. Which is your husband. Son and their puppy receives peanut gob. The traveling the world exploring outdoors and the performing arts. And i'll tell you what all four my boys always tell me all the time that they take everything learning college compared to going with dad to lecture in fifty countries and they said there's no comparison. They woke up to planet earth by getting out of the country. You're you know where you were born going to determine your language or religion your food your culture your thoughts. I mean jokingly say that all thoughts are sexually transmitted diseases because they're mostly correlated to win. And where you were exactly born and them seeing meaning dentist. That were well read. That were friends with their father. And these different countries so we have conversations so we can talk about the not so good about america and their country and how the whole world you go back five thousand years. I mean we get better every century but it's always two steps forward one step back but just take all that pitch was about. Make sure you take. Maybe britain with on those international trips. Because he's an old man some days. Say you know where. I learned that when my momma took me you know. Get out of the united states and if you've never left the united states i don't even wanna hear your thoughts or opinions because it's a sexually transmitted disease you're in kansas. What else would you think when you're born in a certain town that's how you think so. Get the hell out of there and go meet someone from another town. But just i know you're busy is how it was over your lunchtime and i took an hour and a half year lunchtime. Thank you so much. You're amazing and you're one of dentistry thousand points alight and it's always so fulfilling when you're old dennis getting ready to go out to see that will be replaced by someone much more beautiful smart charming intelligent. I mean so. Thank you for all that you do for dentistry in q. Obviously coming from us. That's a lot. So i appreciate that so much. Thank you for the opportunity to be able to speak with you today. I've been a fan of yours for a long time so this is really awesome to be able to talk to you right on. Well you have a good day are you. To thank you love howard's podcast meet seventeen time townie choice award winner jay geier on his very own podcast every month. Jay reveals cutting edge practice growth secrets that you won't want to miss subscribe at podcast for doctors dot com.

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How Do Capybaras Work?

BrainStuff

05:58 min | Last month

How Do Capybaras Work?

"This episode is brought to you by discover. Wanna hear something. Amazing discover matches all the cash. Back you your credit card at the end of your first year automatically with no limit on how much you can earn. How amazing is that in fact. It's even more amazing because you can earn cash back on every purchase groceries clothing and in the past year probably that new streaming service and when your first year wraps up only discover will match all the cash back you've earned at the end of your first year learn more discover dot com slash match limitations apply. Welcome to brainstorm production of iheartradio brain stuff. Learn vogel bam here for some reason. Not everybody loves rodents at maybe because a few species are pretty persistent. In their efforts to share our homes with us and rats have long been credited with spreading the bubonic plague killed millions of people in medieval europe and asia. Though technically it was the fleas that rats and other small animals helped spread but taxonomic order. Rhodesia is fast a whopping forty percent of all mammal species are rodents which means the norway rats you glimpse in the shadows of the subway tunnel and the house mice setting up nursery in your attic are yes both rodents but so are beavers. Guinea pigs porcupines chipmunks. There's a lot to love their but maybe none so charismatic as the world's largest rodent the capybara charisma is of course very subjective picture this though a giant pig like semi aquatic rodent about the size of a large dog who's is years and nostrils Basically at the top of its head they also have these weird tiny webbed feet. That looked kind of like hubs their vegetarian and eat between six and eight pounds of grass each day. That's about two and a half to three and a half kilos and that's in addition to eating their first poop of the morning. That poop contains lots of protein from the microbes that have been feasting on the contents of their intestines all night eating it them to get nutrients out of the food that their system didn't absorb the day before. Kappa berra's are native to central and south america. Where they're doing extremely well. The international union for conservation of nature considers them a species of least concern even though they serve as a prey item for everything from anaconda jaguars and kappa. Berra's need to stick pretty close to the water a wetland estuary river not only because they need to keep their skin moist but also because they require access to the grasses. The grow near waterways about eighty percent of their diet comes from five different grass species. Another thing cap. Bears need is each other afford the article that this episode is based on the team. At how stuff works spoke with elizabeth congdon cabrera reporter and professor the department of natural sciences at bethune cookman university. She said kapoor's are among the most social of rodent species. A groups consists of a dominant male and several subordinate females. The tend to be related to one another and their offspring females cooperate with one another to the point of nursing another's infants and collectively defending the young of the group against predators and potentially infanticide all males. I've seen an adult female backed down a large spectacled cayman. That was approaching. Her newborn groups of kappa. Perez can range from around ten to up to one hundred during the dry season and for the most part their daily activity involves a whole lot of chilling. Some have called caparas. Nature's ottomans because all sorts of animals seemed to enjoy sitting on appears broad back monkeys. Birds catspaw other. Capybaras you name it. A female kappa liked to play with their young teaching their daughters to be allies to one another sons to be competitive but since caparros have so many predators and since a single male works hard to keep as many females to himself as possible males are constantly on the lookout for funny business. Condon's said the male will aggressively defend his rank. These interactions between males don't always reach the level of a full fight because grunting and chasing will usually do the trick females not only stay in the group but also help defend territory against outsiders and predators by alarm calling when citing one and while. It's true the capybara are charming and some people have begun keeping them as pets which is legal in some us states like texas and pennsylvania. Although in most places you'd need to get a special license it keeping a capybara in your home isn't for everyone. Or even the vast majority of tampa bay rays require a lot of water space and friends a solitary or even pair of berra's would probably be very unhappy in florida's several have escaped probably from a wildlife research facility and are hanging out in north florida possibly snuggling each other with birds sitting on their backs it remains to be seen whether capybaras will become florida's next invasive species. Today's episode is based on the article. The charismatic have barra. Is your dog on stuff. Works dot com written by justin shields. Brain stuff is production of iheartradio in partnership with how stuff works and is produced by tyler claim or more podcasts. My heart radio. Visit the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen to your favorite shows we are not out of the woods. Enthoven nineteen but we're getting there and as we emerge. 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Community Activism with Vernon Matthews Jr.

Capt. Hunter's Podcast

42:15 min | 1 year ago

Community Activism with Vernon Matthews Jr.

"Term Welcome to another episode Captain Hunters podcast. Everyone thank you so much for tuning in. Please make sure that whatever platform you're listening to this episode on whether it's on Google play. I tunes Spreaker spotify Iheartradio Pod bean whatever ever platform you're listening to this episode. Please make sure the that subscribe button subscribe rate and share subscribe to the episode rate the episode make sure you give it that five star. Star rating share the episode weather shared on Facebook page on your twitter page or if you just thus ended as an email to a friend who may be interested in whatever topic that we're talking talking about so. Please make sure to do that if you're giving it the less than five stars rating make sure that you send me an email about how I can make to show better. I'm looking for feedback and input got about almost twenty. I five episodes up now just trying to make everything better now so make sure that you are subscribing that you're reading the show. It's very important in order for me to get higher up in the analytics and everything like that. We want people to able to find the episode. I was out in Seattle not too long ago. I landed at the airport. Taco police officer out there told him about the show so he's he started looking at me up on. I tunes he couldn't find show took a long time to find a show and the more that ratings that I get are preferable then the analytic in the algorithms or make sure that my show is easy to find so please make sure to rate to show highly highly that you subscribe to the show and that you are sharing show so please make sure that you do that. What's so special about today's episode while today's episode is going to feature what activism should actually look instead of simply taking everything for granted and set sitting back and just saying what this person should do with that person should do with this leadership over there to do what this political party or what this political the leadership should do our guest today took the Bulls by the Horn and jumped into the political arena so he's a community activist who then said you know what if I have a problem with how the city is being run. If I have a problem with my particular district is being run. I'm going to jump into the arena now. This episode is not about meat necessarily advocating for his mayorship but I just wanted to give him a platform in order for him to put his message out there and because I think that that's important I do not live in his district so I cannot vote for him. I do live in the city waterbury but once again and this is not mean necessarily giving him the thumbs up however I do think that it's important to get his message out there and you as listener you as residential Waterbury and can decide if you want to vote for him but to any community activists there in any other city I want you to listen to Howie answers these questions and decide for yourself if the methods that he's taken in the things that he's doing that you you can take those back to your community and make your community about a place and so we can answer that big question of how we bring the police and the community toward together as one so that's the reason for today's episode so sit back and relax and or go for that nice walk in just listen to our guest. Vernon Matthews junior thank you so much to being on the show and make sure that you go to one voice one community facebook page and One Community Credit Union on the page check those pages out make sure like those pages and make sure that you are becoming a part the solution and not part of the problem when it comes to helping to bridge the gap and divide between the police and public and one more time technology goddess again however we were able to fix the problem so there's about a minute where there's a cell phone breaking up but we got the problem solved so just bear with us weather version appeared time thou further do here's the interview with Bernard. Matthews accused junior. I like to walk my special guest. He is the Alderman for the second district of city Waterbury currently running for the mayor of the city Waterbury on the independent a party ticket. He's has been educated in the Waterbury parochial schools you went to Saint Mary's and Sacred Heart High School class of Nineteen Ninety one. He attended by Thune Cookman College College. I worked for the state of Connecticut for the past twenty years. He's written four different novels. The most successful one is my is close a story of lost love. We've been married for twenty two years father of two children former parks and finance commissioner for the city Waterbury along time community activists working to make the city a better place one community at a time time and he's involved with the one Voice One Community Movement. I like to welcome my special guest Vernon Matthews Junior. Welcome to the show. What are you doing today sir. I'm doing well. Thank you so much for being on the PODCAST. I'd like to give you a chance to just kind of cover any ground that I didn't cover and what you have coming up. I know you're running for the for the mayor for the city Waterbury Derek. What else do you have well. I'm also running for my current she can. I'm in port for the boardwalk for the second district and just doing community the activists stuff that has been for many many years and one of my partners. My thoughts are still opening up my own. There were during the process of doing okay. It's awesome. I did not know that that was a project underway. So a minority owned Credit Union. Okay very nice too. What what breath go ahead tack that literacy round just to teach minorities credit in the way of going about that has been lost over the years the action and a couple of other places that basically were minority fringe far as getting bogged and financial ability literacy programs. We were noticing article so are the check places or onto far from from the feds and and also from the State Banking Commission paperwork and there's everything is you have to go through to make sure that what you're doing is legal that we're doing what is right for the community eighty and also they act as big brother to help out with stuff that we may not know about that may help us in long run like I said I think that is absolutely awesome. Some someone who is actually stepping up and actually doing something for the community instead of just talking about it who knows to you Kudos to you now. I also also understand that the school systems may be you know about this late Sunday. School systems are now teaching some type of Financial Literacy Inter Inter College Prep and Mrs Classes on the higher level they are but they have gone away from it with the lower level so like when I was in school we would have people from the Jaycees or whatever come in and they would teach us about how savings nigger having a savings account how to go about doing a checking account and different things like that now we don't have more and more of its going away and or they're relying on the parents to teach the children in how to do it and there's a mist generation of knowing how to do those things because they weren't taught so now. The parent aren't have to go out and find out how to do it before they can teach it so well. We WanNa do not only that we also have works doing women's Investment Club to teach women how to invest in different things brother it'd be stock buying homes or even if they wanted to open up your own business how to run that business and make it a success where darting something and it fails within for six months because there's no plan of action how to go about doing everything now are these programs particularly with the women are they up and running and if so where can they be reached that and how can people get that information there the women's investment the club. They're supposed to start sometime in October. Nasser exact time 'cause cabinets one is in charge of that but basically it's open to anyone that wants to learn how to vast and also how to make their money go what they have right now. Make your money stretch a little bit longer than what it is. Now is this part of his one voice. One Community that is that part of that was sent quieting one the credit union is one community but the one voice one community is something that I came up with when I ran ran unsuccessfully against their Butler but it was to show people that in order for you to have a voice you need someone that's going to stick up for the entire community and when I was saying the community the city in general not just a certain certain sections of town. You want somebody out there. That's willing to stick what you may be scared to say or skier to bring up an issue you know how is that project coming along a lot of people receptive to it or a lot. A lot of people are receptive. They I see the Hashtag quite often I and my folder. It was just something that I thought of. I didn't think it would catch one but as definitely catch them over the years we actually have one voice community group on facebook and people can post anything injustice stuff that they see within police department or and just as they see housing they can post their they can say whatever they want. You're not being judged by what you post. I do try to keep it more on the lines lines of politically correct having people going on a rant chain racial different types of stuff. Whatever but it's open to anyone is thanks. Hopefully that kind of nonsense is being as not too often with the crazy racial and crazy nonsense. It's not that often. You have a few people that we'll come up there and say so and what I try to do with people. I let them know. Don't like what was written. Don't engage in it because it dies. That person writes it there or whatever whatever let him say what they say. They're so boxing and just don't respond to it but we respond and you just keep it going. Keep it going going and then next thing you know you may have something that you literally have to pull the whole post down because it posed for that it was meant for ten being lighting and someone took it totally north breath aware we're supposed to be at very nice so you are a community activists currently running for Mayor City Waterbury and you're a seat. Give us your overal digital for them. One your community your your particular district and then for the city Waterbury in all okay so within my district I I would love to see more pleasing. I also love to see more of the control officers as well as candies. Wendy's out cleaning up certain areas and just hold a lot of these out of town or absentee landlords accountable for for their property looks like and to let it be known that you know we are a community. We love our city just as much as someone in eastern and the Western or someone in the South End. Is this for some reason when you hear the North End. There's like this black cloud comes up and people think thank you know. Were you in the north end so it's always something negative when there's a lot of positive things that go on in the North End Certain sections you have Crown Brooke has been trying trying to get revitalize himself you have while area. That's been trying to revitalize themselves so there's a lot of areas that at one time I'm working bad but there's people that are there that are trying to make it a better place so we we need to work the community and just keep things moving along along and show people that you know what for one bad apple there's twenty five that are out there that are willing to do a distance and make the area a lot better than what it is. Yes I definitely see that and I gave a lot of credit to those members of those particular communities that you mentioned are trying to clean up their areas. One of the biggest frustrations that I've always had is are the people who either don't care about the area or those who come in in a transit type of basis and just kind of don't care about take a former police officer so I can remember one night if you can remember when the precincts will open. We had three different pressings city not yet. I was at the precinct North North Main Street. Now there was a right next door to the precinct was a Chinese restaurant and so someone has gone in there one night he's he bought some some food needs thin outside at eating at Phnom outside as well even a scientist precinct outside because at this particular time that particular area especially during midnight shift was there were a lot of bars that we had to break up break in fights and just make sure people kept moving things like that so the skype finished his his food and just throws the stuff underground and now number one. He throws it on the ground. There was a trash ben not too far away so throws right on the ground number. One in front of a police officer right is in full uniform and number two. You've just does it completely not caring about the community in which either lived saved or that he was visiting. I don't know which one talk to us about how we can't change the minds of people whether it come to come to certain segments of city or that but he lived there about not throwing trashing the ground and just cleaning up the community talk to us about how we change that mindset one thing is we have an ordinance now that has been on the books for a little while dealing with litter and basically I falls under the flight officers community officers that go out and look to see certain areas where trashes over overgrown at or whatever and there's also the new ordinance that we just an old ordinance but we added more to with the trust ends being left out and being brought back the same day that travel without whatever for example you have someone someone that's like what you said about the Chinese food or whatever if you have been that's right there and you have no respect to walk through that. Ben The officer regarded as your whoever else has every right to write in infraction for that because he's showing one I have no respect for your uniform to have no respect for your community and three has no respect for himself because that means that he wants to live in Phil. Nobody wants to live in filth. We Wanna be able to to have our areas regardless of where you are to be pressing. You want someone to come to that area say hey. I can go there and you know I don't see anything on the ground or whatever and ours use the analogy of going down south and being in a Walmart parking lot down there compared to here appeared. You'll see cigarette but everything else all around the parking lot you go down there and you literally can't if you dropped your soda on the ground. You could pick your soda. The backup starts ranking it. That's how clean they keep their areas. So why can't we do the exact same thing here or people just say enough is enough enough and this is what I want for my community absolutely so just by the way I did make the guy pick up the trash. I didn't make didn't just leave Sarah so we had i. Ah No. We had a nice conversation. you know but I just a mindset of what this is why he would do that. I said number one just to throw it on the ground while there's trash Ashley Bailable number two right in front of police officers just a complete lack of respect. You gave us your vision for the for your second district. How about the city Waterbury as a whole. I Pity City award a very quality of life and when I say quality of your life we we've had several different news articles within the past few weeks talking about out different things for positive one being the sewage treatment center down in the South and the odor that it's getting getting stronger and it's being smelt in areas that was never smelt before. That's something that we have to work on. We have to work on our opium problem that we have and I and it's not just based off of one particular race or one particular creed we we're seeing this epidemic left and rate our current administration. Tracy please. Police Department are doing a great job but I also believe that we do need more policing to stop the he problem and those in certain areas where we're seeing people overdosing or drug paraphernalia being best in areas where we we have young children or young adult stack go and hang out and you know you have a chance to getting stabbed by a dirty needle or a kid finding a bag ugh not knowing what it is candy and and they they ingest it and now we're trying to figure out what Kate have not knowing that it was something that was just left after a round are lower taxes because we're number two in a state where sixty point twenty one and you know we we need to lower our tax and lower mill rates show that we can start bringing more businesses and and to also improve our image that we're known as I hate hearing people say all I'm from to thirty ward and no you're not you're from Nebraska capital of the world from the city awarded. You're you stopped using derogatory name for a steady because you keep using the word dirty water or something things derogatory about the city now that's why everybody thinks that the city awarded barriers that way. I can give examples of being on on the air on Sirius. XM TALKING TO JEFF box are being WB L. S. talking to different on air personalities and I talk about Waterbury like in Brooklyn New York or Washington. DC and then own look up. They nose starts asking me staff will wise this and why is that when I'm like I don't. I don't see that this is my hometown. I love my hometown. You can't for the negative stuff. That's a lot of great things that could be an and even be better so those are the things we have to work on. We have to get back quality of life back from where we are right right now. The I like that into quality of life back and thank you for pushing back as Waterbury into when you get down certain thank you for doing oh I I do. I do that all the time I in fact out of all six books that I've written for that have been published. I talk about about where to bury like you would think would be you know. Los Angeles California or something and it says that that's how much I love the city and I also shout out different it neighborhoods and different things like that because that's just how I remember the city and how I would love to see the city be again. You certainly have an uphill uphill. Battle is particularly in the minds of people who have been. I want to say jaded by by that image right the dirty water so people had taken it. Maybe even affectionately whether that is good or not is is up for debate. I mean I don't particularly like when people take those type of negative words like the n word and try to make some type of positive right so. I don't think there's anything positive about that. There's nothing POW no one that one thing and I was gonNA bring that up. I'm glad you brought it up the N. word. We use it like a term of endearment endearment now but doing somebody that's not of our culture has now you want to punch him in face to do something to him. It's like you know you can't use something something and think it's cool and then get kicked off. Somebody else uses it. You know so we we have to really think think of our mindset and what we're trying to portray ourselves as more so than you know this dirty water dirty water dirty water. I even it ticks me off when I hear you know on air. Personalities are stationed in in our area. Oh yeah someone so from the dirty water. I'm like please Please stop breathing. That's one of the reasons I've actually stopped listening to commercial radio because of derogatory canes. I can't see that you want an image that Wanna portray your town as being better but you are allowing someone to use a derogatory statement toward everything that is associated with your city. It's kind of a mental kind of sickness. I think it is did you see Dave Chapelle latest Netflix special no I did not see but from everybody's he's been talking about it on facebook and everything just like I didn't watch last last night's episode. Power people have been talking about. It and I'm like I have to watch these things just to see what's going on from what I heard it this. This is like some of Chapelle bats work well yes. I really enjoyed his last two specials but this one was really good as well just continuing to think that we're talking about with the N. Word you can certainly watch he can certainly tell the story away by than I can so he's having a conversation with one of ah I think the managers are of Netflix or someone like that. He's talking to someone and they're telling him not to use the term fag right at he's referring to Gabi. He's he's like okay. Well that's fine. I won't use that word but then he starts walking out. The office says well wait a minute. Why can't I use this word and the woman I think is a woman. Who says to him well because you're not gay right? It's now determine bear Mitsubishi. You're not gay. He says well. You don't have a problem with using using the N. word again and he's like well. You're not gay but then he says Blah madder nigger either so science so right so we have to really I I think that we as a community we can get more community active the type of thing and this is all I wanNA talk about is. How do we get ourselves together every want other people to respect us right to fit the gay community wants to be respected so you can't use that term Waterbury? He's like you and I want to be respected so we don't want them to downgrade us as far as the city waterbird calling us up dirty water. I agree with those and so does this. N Word is a problem an hour musicians use it. Our COMEDIANS use it. How do we stop this. Is it even possible too far gone. Now we just gotta just kinda swallow and just take. WHOA I I go back to. We're oh head so I go back to Richard. Pryor live on sunset strip after tiffany going to Africa and he was shocked the Sea Lions Tigers and everything but he was wrong. Thank folks and the CIA tells jokers like you know the whole time I was there. Nobody nobody called me and he's like you know why was there. He's like you know I'm never using that word ever again and after that particular violent sunset strip came out like eighty one eighty two before he burned himself he did not use that word ever again in in any of his stand up any of his movies never used it so as Miami set so we tell ourselves that you know what we want our community to be a better place and we don't want to use derogatory name of dirty water water. Beer is the only thing ever elected as corrupt individuals. Whatever you stop saying it you stop acting that way you stop showing it that way. Now people are starting to believe that you know what that's not worth a beer image. This is something that someone told us was wordy abused and Mitch but they changed it and only thing I i. It's just like flipping a switch and your house you turn your light on. You know you're gonNA have like Turkey. Light off. Allies are going to be all right so it's all it's all in how you flip the switch and show people how you want things to be done and how you want to the need because it takes a leader to change people. I completely agree. I completely grade. It all comes down to leadership when you're right. We have to exemplify the type. A behavior that we want so we got his voting stuff coming up. Talk to me about how we can get people to vote. People showed up a lot for Obama. Nobody came out when he was running anymore. More look what we got into midterm elections. Everyone turned around and he came out to vote again highest percentages in years if not this is a time for the city. Waterbury devote everything you're running for. How do we get people being courage to not only in the big time Alexis ruined voting for senators and presidents but in smaller Alderman districts. How do we get people to come ought to be just as interested just as firing well. I I look at it this way you go by someone who works and I can be Carney and shit shit out and constantly post pictures or take say what I've done. I've done say what I've done or let somebody else say what I did an opera purpose money to say what else would I did then for me to be my own person out there stating hey I did this. This person did this this community. I did this just for that community because remember our beloved Johanna Hayes Day didn't want her and you saw what she did. She primary she knocked the socks. Doc saw then she wanted to November and had the biggest turnout ever far as someone and were to bury she's heard numbers were hired in any of the mirrors that has ever been elected seats close to fifteen thousand votes and and we average for oil race with all three major parties and whatever right ends or whatever it averages about twenty thousand people that get out and vote she had fourteen thousand people almost fifteen to vote for one person alone so that set that speaks volume and it also speaks to where people are and you know they believed in what this woman was speaking about a believed in her. It wasn't about what they call this political machine it was someone that was genuine out there and spoke there. My and that's me in a nutshell is like you know. I hear what people are saying. That's one of the reasons why I started to get on a bus Wednesday west who listened to people from from the eastern people from the south end or just a little small areas in your neighborhood at the buses different routes and you would hear a how a older man letting his wife drive the car to work and he would run around and do whatever business has to be done on the bus or the you former state employee that's retired and he takes the bus to save money so he doesn't have to spend money on gas just running around city awarded very but it takes me two hours. I think from Walmart to back over to his condo on Scott Road when he can driver's car there and be done but he'd rather do that to save money so those are the things that I paid attention to and I listen to and I was like okay. These are the people that want change the other folks that want to see a different they wanna be able to go out and vote and so confident in that their vote is making a difference. Not It just the same the same thing. It's the same thing because that's what I've heard you can't do this. You cannot beat this. You cannot do that or whatever ever and I love when people tell me. I can't do anything because I'm a Leo. You can't tell us what they can't do because they're going to show you that I can do. This and I'll do do a five times better so you've run into a lot of apathy when people say I cannot add it now now. It's just a fact of showing people that you know Oh. I am a good choice that I do believe in the city. I do believe in the people of word of beer regardless of your color color. Your race creed religion. Whatever it's about unifying and making us one voice one community many communities throughout the country are are dealing with negative interactions between law enforcement and the communities. I think that is an bragging a lot about see Waterbury obviously in our police department airmont but what can we do better now. We don't have any of the problems in into consent decrees that Baltimore or Cleveland or am. I trying to pick an any city. There's a lot of problems in different places but what cannot police department do better. I know you wanted more policing patrolling ever love to see more policing war patrolling. I would also love to bring back and I'm quite sure when you you went on twenty some odd years ago they still had the cop buddy program which was the having the officers live in certain areas and they were able able to live in a house for fifteen years and then you know after fifteen years they would there there would be forgiven or something. I would love to see those officers especially the young guys move into not crime ridden areas but somewhere where crime could be deterred by just for the simple fact of having an the office of living there and actually interact with the children and the area to let them know that hey the image that you see on TV or the image that is is portrayed by news. These are not officers because I have several officers that I'm friends with and then there were several officers growing up that if there was a problem I couldn't sit down and talk to my parents. I talked to my dad. I could go and talk to the officer because I officer knew my dad and eventually it would get back back but I could sit down have a conversation and knew that these guys were peace. Officers police officers they were there to protect the whole community and what they're trying to show now far as policing they want to show you guys just combat didn't want to show you is this oh use that or whatever and I've I never heard really not even Connecticut to in general of any officers that were that were that so row that would make your your city or town embarrassed by them being on the force and if it did happen it was those offices were taking lots of force way before for anything crazy could happen so they they were somebody else's problem or they just lost their certification and we didn't have that problem anymore. You're so what would you say to any community activists and other cities about how to engage with their with their police department we. I think we do a good job once again. But would you say to another commute active. I would tell them at that of Iraq or the anger. Find out because because remember these guys are human beings just like we are and when you have a problem where you've had a problem all day and and you're confined to a vehicle and you don't have a way to outlive if what was the problem that led to that why why what is the officer that way all why was the person in the community the way toward that led to whatever being escalated to an arrest or a possible claiming all whatever what what what was going on in our officers my what can what can he do. Do what can we do as a community to debrief or do community right along to find out what's really going on because you can find somebody that's and say Alexa Greenwich Cop car over. Maybe four or five times a month or someone. That's in like you said a boss a West Baltimore. That's constantly constantly thinking the whole time he gets in that car to the time reach offers break time he leaves if he gets mandated to work another shift. Jeff when he leaves what was going through his head the whole time that he was in that vehicle or what was going through her head to hold time to vehicle. I am I'm going to shooting. Am I going to get shot. What can I do to protect this person that was already shot and where's the shots shots fired. Philadelphia through weeks ago perfect example they go to serve a warrant not knowing all the Intel that was going on in the house. I'm quite sure if they knew everything that was going onto. Tactic would have been totally different and it probably would've ended in a peaceful way set of officers being shot because it was known owned. There's artillery houses this. There's that whatever so a lot of times we have to and and it was a community person that told him hey this guy's doing this this this in the house but they didn't tell them everything else that was in that house so if they knew what was going on the game attack would probably would have been more of a sleep awake type thing go when he's asleep so he can't get to stuff your mid day where everything is there. He knows where everything is that you guys don't know where things are speaking of Philadelphia. Tell the story anyone who's listened to the previous. Episode does hurt historic. I was on vacation and hand ran across a guy he ended up being a pastor from the city of Philadelphia and so he was a pastor Phil in Philadelphia of course I tell them what I do and autumn as a lieutenant at the time and so he's beginning to tell me that he missed the days and times when when the officers were outside of their police vehicles and they're actually walking the beat in interacting with the public a lot of what you've been more had been suggesting so. I think that there is a lot of mayor from that. This was a pastor is black pastor from Philadelphia. Who wanted the same thing so it's not and so there this emnity that people often have or think that there's often going between black people in the police is not true inaccurate a a lot of black people do want the police indoor communities in their neighborhoods and to help and to help protect them to help bring about the law and order the need that there had been there and we grew up where we saw? Jimmy wiring or physical Booker Junior James Matthews all these guys walking around here and they get out vehicle senior talk to you. Find out what's going on. What are you doing. Why are you out here at this time of the day or or whatever Mr Cavenaugh beat on as a pathmark. Why are you die at this the Times you need to Call Your Dad. I'm in here buying something for my parents. That's why I'm GonNa Pass Market Twelve one at night. I'm not hanging around to do whatever but they knew who you were. They knew who your families were so they kept you accountable for what you were doing and you didn't mess your name for them to be down there saying well someone who's not here because he was doing. He was doing that so to have the community policing and not how the six officers to actually bring hiring is paying it back up to at least have fourteen community officers so we have a rotation and then just in general just bringing more. You're policing back and showing people that it's not about a martial law. It's about showing that we want to have how people out there to feel safe and feel protected. You know if we had that type of community interaction between police officers as you said we as we as we grew up we we saw the clues officers on the beat then maybe that guy who threw that downloads those chickens in front of me at the ten will not have done it because he would have some type of respect for the badge he would have known own like you said this police officer may call my mother now. I didn't know the guy but but that fear that mindset is gone and so I think that's one way to bring it back. We'll finish up nob. I it's Kinda WanNa. Talk about your romantic side. So you got a couple of books. My eyes closed and confesses of very bad our love the completion of love talk to us about these books which are inspiration for these romantic novels that you've got going on the actual. I first story or your first novel. You would say or screenplay. My wife was working on a one hundred degrees and I won't with her to school one time nine and I was trying to figure out what to do. She wished she had a long class and she was actually in class for four hours. Watch and I was like okay okay. What can I write and the actual first screenplay is called from the bear to the peak and it was based off of two brothers that lived in Waterbury that moved to Chesapeake Virginia one was teaching at Hampton and other was a funeral director and love ran from there are just constantly athlete wrote and wrote about different characters and try to find out how to Make Stories Colin dip a love at found out it was a I love that I like to do as a pastime absolutely awesome awesome. I think is good that people have that kind of pastime in cages each legal work. You've got to have something that's GonNa in past time as well. I'll give you the last word here and know that you're working on which once again I think is awesome a credit union working on the women helping them with their investments. What else do you have going on. And what can we look forward to. As far as your ultimate shipping voting and what else do you have gone on what people to get out there research search see what I've done as an Alderman and also forest what I've done in the community and if they feel that they really want to see change range in Waterbury and wants to see you know someone. That's going to get out there and fight and you advocate for them. I just giving me a chance. That's all I can say. Give me a chance. you know like you said in the midterm elections back in two thousand eighteen we was the numbers were out of this world because of people were like you know what we really need to make a difference and they voted in a lot of black women for the first time and also they were able to do a lot of different things within minority areas. Were things have changed so let's let's keep the ball rolling and see where we can go with it. Absolutely thank you very much that you so much for your time Bernard Matthews Junior goodluck collections and wish you well think okay. Take your thank you so much to Vernon Mathis Jr. for being on the PODCAST. No matter who you decide to vote vote for and is coming election whether it's this year or next year. Mitchell that you are part of the process and that you are stepping up to vote eventually registered to vote amateur you good out there and actually cast cast that vote. That's the most important thing let your voice be known in. 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The two trillion dollar question

POLITICO's Nerdcast

29:48 min | 1 year ago

The two trillion dollar question

"Hello listeners how well listen you deal or working here? Let's try that again. Hello listeners a will let them almost hainer casters. I'm Scott Bland. I'm here with my two year. Old Son Sammy. He's helping me out the podcast kind of we don't push that button anyway. This week on the show we are going to talk about the way that Donald Trump is inching. His daily Corona Virus Task Force briefings closer to prime time viewing and why that makes sense for this animal of TV. But first we're GONNA get into the story behind the passing of the Emergency Corona Virus Relief Bill in the Senate. It's been quite the adventure covering this. Marianne Levine is a Senate reporter for politico. Who's been on the hill for the past ten days tracking this emergency corona virus package that the Senate just passed bud the hill? The past ten days has not really been the same as usual. The environment was unlike anything we've ever seen. The capital is essentially deserted. Marianne told me about the remaining Congress. Reporters up on the hill that banded together to create what they call the pandemic pool started what became known as pandemic fool so that the reporters could observe social distancing with the senators and staffers and not crowd around everyone the way they they usually do. Everyone's fighting to get a quote in these big scrums. We all started pulling together our clothes in our interviews and would just send each other what we all got from each other. We got from lawmakers or got from administration officials as we were reporting out the negotiations. And I think that those are really. It was a really nice part. I think it brought out the best of the hill press corps because it kind of felt like everyone had each other's backs and everyone was willing to send an interview long if you weren't there at that point and so I think there is the sense of understanding to that. Were we were up there? And a lot of us were felt that we were putting our health at risk just given the recommendations against going against really being outside and interacting with people with this virus and so I think there was a lot of at the among the reporters. This like so much else right now is not normal. Yeah I mean the hill is known for being a really competitive be you know. I think we're often competing against each other. Getting the right quote from a senator or getting getting a senator by themselves. That can tell you something that what happened. I think corona virus changed. A lot of that. Marianne is here to tell us about that. Ninety six zero vote. I think first of all a very big sigh of relief when this finally happened there we over the last five or six days. Really the last week It's been a lot of negotiations. A lot of back and forth between Republicans Democrats and the trump administration. And I think that seeing that ninety six zero vote last night was I think there is everyone could just take a deep breath and I think that a lot of people were relieved that the Senate finally actually acted and did something to address the krona virus after days of talks the ninety six. Oh it kind of it. It looks like something you know. You just put a put a bow on right but in in fact a lot of people are pretty unhappy right now. Right the can you. Can you walk us through? You know who? Maybe didn't didn't really get what they wanted. What what the point of conflict are here and obviously you hinted that there was a lot of there were huge blow ups just to get to this point and I think probably a a number of those ninety six were holding our noses. Yeah I mean with the compromise. Bill you're never GONNA have. There's always something in there that most senators don't like the one we're looking at this two trillion dollar package. It really is a true compromise between Democrats and Republicans. But I do you want to go back to the point. That ninety six zero is a really big deal for the Senate I mean especially after all the all the acrimony that we saw over the last couple of days I mean on on Monday. The Senate floor was just lit up with Republican senators. Who are normally quite calm. Yelling at the Democrats and really angry Because Democrats were blocking the Senate from moving forward because they wanted to leverage negotiations with the trump administration on the package and so it got pretty ugly on the Senate four with Republicans and Democrats both accusing the other of China. Play politics with this moment. And trying to trying to leverage the corona virus crisis to their advantage to push forward policy items that had nothing to do with the actual pandemic so we saw bitterness that we saw stops and starts with the negotiations a lot of late nights on the hill but I think ninety six zero vote is a pretty big deal and I think that makes this much easier for this to pass the house. I think that's I think that's probably true and You know the the end result of all that acrimony starting on Monday or Tuesday was that I think like you said that the bill didn't end up being a little bigger. They're the unemployment benefits Extended for longer more generous The thing the thing that keeps sticking out to me the ninety six. Oh and and the what you pointed out before about McConnell and Schumer. Both claiming credit is that each of the past two presidential campaigns and maybe stretching a little further than that has been kind of animated by this idea. I think that's very attractive to a large groups of voters in both parties that if the parties in Washington are both agreeing on something that people are probably getting screwed by in some ways. I'm curious to see how how how this ends up kind of playing out over the long run. I think obviously the fact that they're trying to get money out the door to people who are getting hurt by the the economy closing down over over. Current virus temporarily is a good thing. And so we'll just kinda see what would what happens with the rest of the stuff that was in the bill basically. Yeah I mean it's a seven eight hundred plus page bill and they put together and five days which is like warp speed for the Senate or the deliberative by that doesn't do a ton of blood was leading and so the fact that they put together the biggest economic rescue package in the history of the country and five essentially five ten days. I can accept that. There's some issues with it. Seems like we're probably GonNa see I in the language is written really fast. I think that there's going to be. I think we're GONNA see a lot of consequences of it that we might not anticipate or that. We're not thinking about right now and But it is I think in have. I think they're hoping that this will have a big impact on what's going. On and hopefully mitigate the mitigate the issues the crisis that we're seeing absolutely absolutely so you mentioned Schumer you mentioned McConnell. Who are the other main players in putting this together obviously beside the two Senate party leaders so Treasury Secretary Mnuchin played a pretty big role as did White House Legislative Affairs Director? Eric Uland Awad late nights. In the capital we would see MNUCHIN and Ulan shuttling back and forth between Between McConnell's offices and Schumer offices but Mnuchin I think is a pretty interesting character here. He obviously he's the treasury secretary. These kinds of the petition among Democrats of someone. They can deal He got the second coronavirus stimulus package deal on that with Nancy. Pelosi on this third stimulus package. He he works he. He talked a lot to Schumer and Schumer likes to call them. Chuck and Stephen. That's kind of humorous way of saying. Hey were we're tight but yeah I mean they they I think mnuchin played a really interesting role. I I mean what's so crazy about all this is Pelosi and trump outspoken months. And there's not really because trump is obviously upset about impeachment and I think there's just a lot of there's no love lost between the two of them and so- MNUCHIN is is kind of viewed as a point guy for Democrats to deal with the administration. And what's interesting is I think that in any other situation or maybe any other political situation we'd be in speaker of the house would be talking to the president about this but they but Mnuchin has kind of become this conduit because their relationship has basically gone two zero. Yeah exactly so it kind of falls on Mnuchin essentially to to be the conduit when some of these when we want when the Democrats and the Republicans want some compromise. That's GonNa get through on Eric. You'll end also is He's a well known Capitol Hill staffer former Capitol Hill staffer and well known among the Republicans. on the hill. And so he I think he played a big role in the negotiations. As well got so you know I want to kind of talk a little bit now before we go about just the backdrop of all these things about the Capitol Hill amid corona virus. And I I guess the thing I'm wondering what was it like being up there even a week or two weeks ago. We asked senators. Hey what are you doing to try to not get this corona virus and a lot of them are just washing hands. It's not you know. I think there's a sense I think a lot of these guys have kind of a sense of invincibility saying that. Their Egos among among senators between the lives. Massive News break here on a hot shake. This is hot. Shake from politico's. I'm Senate team right here. That they do in fact have big EGOS also uses. I do think that Senator Paul getting it. And then a slew of senators having the Self Quarantine at different points and even I mean center. Koba Char her husband is was hospitalized for help with corona virus. And so I think this week we also really saw The pandemic People really saw how it affected their livelihoods. And I think that's you know that's always really hard making that truly changes the dynamic and of course Another one of the side effects of the situation. Marianne is that the Senate now after having passed this bill is getting out of town for a while to try and disperse everyone. That's right the Senate will be out until April twentieth and That's a long time for them for them to be gone especially because it's August but yeah I think part of it is I think the Senate is trying to do its part and trying to find the curve and when it comes to the virus and its were they're not going to be in the capital. We'll still have pro forma session. So those are sessions where one senator has the gavel in for a minute and then gavel out. But we're really not going to see the Senate come together until mid-april. Yeah I I wonder if they'll be able to keep to that. Given how things with corona virus are evolving and changing and and whether you know they they might be called upon to do something else besides what they did but we will see lots of look at what. The fact of the third stimulus packages. I think there's a lot of talk right now. About what is the Senate you after this? And there's a lot of expect fusion that they're going to have to do something else so I think a lot depends on the crisis the CDC recommendations in how leadership wants to move forward. A one thought one thing. That's guiding some traction or some discussion is this idea of remote voting where maybe senators wouldn't have to come back at all But I but that's something that McConnell does not support so we're not. I'm not holding my breath if that we're GONNA see remote voting but it's it's an idea that has been up in the air and that has gained a little bit more traction in the last couple of days given the emergency situation that we're in absolutely well Maryanne thank you for walking through all that Thank you for your late nights on hill tracking this bill. That came together and a preemptive. Thank you for like we sat following through on over the next weeks and months over what was in this. This huge thing that That pass so quickly And something we're going to be keeping an eye on very closely coming up. Maryanne thank you again. Yeah thank you for having me. And we've got more nerd casts coming up for you in a second but we'll be back after a quick message the problem at the news right now. It's everywhere each day it can feel like we're all just mindlessly scrolling. That's where slates what next comes in this short daily. Podcast is here to help you make sense of things from fleshing out new angles uncovering stories that have been largely unreported host. Mary Harris Guides listeners. Through complex topics with asking the right questions and drawing out new information from her guests in the process when the news feels overwhelming. Will here to help you answer. What next listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts? Okay let's go from one end of Pennsylvania Avenue to the other now so what Congress just did this is what Americans are really going to feel in terms of the government response to the pandemic or we're going to talk about now. Is the public face of the corona virus response at the White House. President trump and his corona virus task force had been holding these daily press. Briefings lately some of them stretching toward the two hour mark and these briefings are serving as almost a trump hosted. Tv Show and they've started to move later and later in the day from roughly the noon hour which is where typically resided at the beginning to closer to prime time. Which is no accident. For a television fixated president and the subject of a new piece by Michael Cruz. Senior staff writer for Politico and Politico magazine who incidentally has written a lot before about the anatomy of trump's political rallies and also his career on TV. Yeah so any good show or most good shows have a have a formula have they an arc to which the loyal viewers can grow accustomed. Lots of things happen within that ARC. But it's pretty formulaic right. I mean that you can make that argument for almost any piece of narrative content. Tv or otherwise. Michael in your piece described the anatomy of these briefings the way you see president trump structuring them and even though they can be really chaotic because just about everything involving trump is UC UC real motive. Here in how the president has set these up. Yeah so any good show or most good shows have a Have a formula have a an arc to which the loyal viewers can grow accustomed. Lots of things happen within that ARC. But it's pretty formulaic right. I mean that you can make that argument for almost any piece of narrative content TV or otherwise the narrative arc here is this starts with Donald trump more often than not it ends with Donald Trump at the beginning. He will kick off the briefing by thanking people for coming. Usually it is a dozen dozen plus reporters not a very big crowd but the crowd outside the room of course millions and millions of television viewers. He starts by welcoming people and thanking them for being there he engages in. I don't know four five six eight minutes of monologue things. He wants to mention accomplishments or would be accomplishments or progress. Made Bits of information that he wants to convey at which point he shifts to a kind of act two of these briefings which is perhaps the most important part of the briefings but also in some sense the least entertaining part of these briefings he introduces members of the supporting cast this rotating roster characters public health professionals doctors a who are on the current or virus taskforce admirals cabinet members. The vice president is obviously almost daily pretty much daily member of the supporting cast but he introduces them and that is a word he actually has used. He is almost conductor. He is the C-. He is the ringleader of this of this format. But this is the part of this of this arc the part of this formula where the Supporting cast gets to have its say and then at the end of that which usually takes depends on the day but usually takes a ten minutes fifteen minutes at the end of that. It is back to trump and in some sense this is the most fluid and the most exciting effects through a word. Chapter of of this of this Formula it is when the president primarily not only the president but primarily. The president engages with questions from the reporters. And that is where we've seen sort of the the most fireworks so to speak In these briefings. So how do you square Michael and again you know having having watched so many of these having watched much of trump of what trump has done before. How do you square the the kind of wrote like thought out? Clearly you know almost formulaic at this point. Set up of these things with the fact that Internally on day to day briefings are kind of a mess. You've got trump contradicting himself. From from day to day sometimes contradicting the public health officials. That are there how do you? How do you square those those things? The first trump one zero one is that trump is trump and trump will always be trump the back and forth the day to day a literal self contradictions the ability to say one day. We're going to be so good. This is going to pass relax and then the next day say it's bad it's bad we might be doing this till July or August two days after that saying no. We're GONNA do this release soon. Let's try to have this all wrapped up more or less by Easter seems on its face like just absolute craziness but it is very much in keeping with his behavioral patterns both as President in his pre-presidential existence. Yeah how is the House the media handling covering this new format? I mean I've seen A couple of cable networks are starting to kind of drop. Drop the the ends of these press conferences. Which as you mentioned kind of where things can get a little a little crazy Before I saw a report earlier today there's a there's a radio station in Seattle and said it's GonNa stop covering the president live to avoid broadcasting misinformation to to viewers which striking of course. Seattle being also one of the epicenters of the current virus outbreak in the United States. It's the latest version of a question. I think the press all of us have been grappling with from the start. Not just from the start of his presidency but from the start of his campaign. How much airtime do you give? How much leeway do you give him? When do you cut away Do you just sort of run tape live. It's a slightly different conversation now. Given the context of this pandemic right right there is real public value. There is public interest at hand to having the president be able to even in his sometimes odd ways even sometimes harmful as transmit information. That might be quite important in in between what he's doing. We're also hearing from Tony. Ouchi and Deborah Brooks and others who are also trying to convey important potentially life or death information. So how do you make a blanket decision? How do you know when to drop out Do you just not run it. Live and then edit edit it down to only the most important and responsible comments from the president. I don't know how you do that. I don't know that there is a an easy answer to this complicated question and in some sense the question which has been complicated from the get-go has gotten nothing but more complicated with this plan. Democ are there a couple moments that have really stuck out to us? You've been watching these that just kind of made you a and again from the perspective of having watched this this president for so long. Watch his public appearances so so carefully that that made you sit back and say you know. Whoa or or or anything particularly surprising about his him in this in this new format. This new context. I guess I'll start with a what was really a sort of a snippet of a moment the snide comment he made about Mitt Romney. Self quarantining was a quick dose of kind of pure trump. Unable to stop himself from responding the way he always would respond to a perceived enemy to somebody who's been one of his more vocal opponents if you want to use that terminology over in the Senate within the Republican Party within the Republican Party right and so he. He heard the news or seem to suggest that he had just heard the news. That Mitt Romney was going to self quarantine and said something on all along the lines of Gee. That's too bad clearly sarcastic. The follow up question was certified techs sarcasm. Mary said Oh no no no. It was obviously there but in that tiny moment trump was trump. You say the first rule of trump is that trump will always trump and trump trump. In that moment. The other thing I would mention is the back and forth. He had with Peter Alexander from the sea on the one hand. We've grown so accustomed to kind of test back and forth with reporters. This has been a a hallmark for better or for worse of the trump presidency but I think the intensity of that back and forth and the stakes surrounding not only that back and forth but the moment in general that we're all living through. I think up until that point with these briefings. Somebody might have been able to suggest you know. He's he's he's he's trying to strike the right tone with such a high stakes situation. Such a complicated ongoing life or death scenario one of the hardest things for him as president for any president ever to have to deal with and yet here we are having a spat with a reporter. Kinda usual slap fight right. It was a stark reminder that even with the gravity of the situation even if he is able to muster some words of comfort even if he's able to sort of channel a unifying national leader at this perilous moment he still eventually is going to be himself and do his shtick which includes Pitting HIMSELF AGAINST THE PRESS. Well that leads into another question. I WanNa ask you Michael which is Amid all this from from kind of a a personal ratings perspective this moment seems to be working for trump. He's getting better marks on handling current virus in some recent polling Than than for just about anything else during his presidency. His approval ratings are ticking. Up a little bit. I think it's going to take some time to see if this is an ethereal moment. That is raced sooner or later Because we've certainly seen that any number of times during this presidency right where it seems like those his approval ratings. Or what have you have kind of been suddenly on the upswing and then it it it never really materialized but so what what what. Ab- something about this seems to be working for him makes me think of a of a of a piece. I wrote scholarship point several years back. I think the headline was trump with the sound off and it was about his understanding before he was president. And certainly as a candidate and as president of the importance of just imagery Roger Stone of all people told me for that story that trump has always understood. That how you look is more important than what you say on television. That is the truth of TV and so trump does. I recall talking to Chuck Todd tremendously about this. He would ask after interviews with chuck to turn the camera around and let him watch the tape but on mute. That's what he was most interested in. How do I look what is my? What is my a posture? How coming across regardless of the words coming out of my mouth and so I think what he what he is trying to do here and what. I'm what I'm watching is the image. He's presenting to the millions of people across the country. Who are concerned worried? Anxious justifiably who are looking to him and perhaps the sound is off. Perhaps perhaps the sound is down. Maybe they're making dinner but he is there center stage in the briefing room surrounded by a stern sober professionals and he looks like he's on it. He looks like he's in charge regardless of what he says. Regardless of the fights he has with reporters later in the show regardless of anything he is there. He has created that a new piece of imagery at this moment in time that at least for now if we if we believe those polls is benefiting him is making his approval. Ratings tick up a little bit is making the American public say trump's in charge because he does on that screen on that stage in that room looked like he is in fact in charge and doing things to address the situation. I'm I'm very curious to see if it continues. I'm curious to see if he can to what extent he he's able to control himself. And you know whether or not this moment is is a real thing. Just one of those bumps that kind of pass in the night and sure I mean look this is a this is a tough nut to crack as I write like. I mean you know you. You can use all of your tools. You can empty your bag of tricks. And he's He's he's good at this. He is good at this. But there's only so long you can control narrative or tried to project an image if If the reality on the ground gets worse and worse in honestly who knows? I hope this isn't true but it seems like this is going to get worse before it gets better. More people are going to be sick before more. People start getting better. This is going to last for a long time. So how long can he project that image and have this show Be Successful Quote Unquote. Whatever that means When the news the reality keeps getting worse I mean. I don't know that I don't know that anybody knows knows the answer to that but for sure he's GonNa keep he's GonNa keep trying and he's going to. He's going to keep going to that bag of tricks and he's going to keep He's GonNa keep big himself. Yeah it's a big question Michael. Thank you so much for joining us to talk through it. Thanks so much okay. That is our show. Our producer is anti reese. Our senior producer is jenny and our executive producer. Irene Noguchi are illustrator. Is Bill Cookman? If you'RE LISTENING ON APPLE PODCASTS. Please do us a favor and leave a review. It helps new listeners. Find the nerve gas. We'll talk to you again next week. In the meantime thanks for listening.

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Say Their Names & Mary McLeod Bethune

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Say Their Names & Mary McLeod Bethune

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I'm Jenny Kaplan, and this is Encyclopedia Manica? Today's warrior was a pioneering American educator an education. Civil Rights, activist, stateswoman, philanthropist, writer, and humanitarian. Known as the First Lady of the struggle, she spent her entire life battling to better the lives of African Americans. Let's talk about Mary McLeod within. Mary was born on July tenth, Eighteen, seventy, five in Maysville South Carolina. She was one of the youngest of Samuel and Patsy mccloud seventeen children. Mary's parents were former slaves who worked and save to buy their own plot of land from patsies former owners after emancipation. Then began growing their own cotton. For each five Mary worked in the fields at her family's farm. I H nine. It said that Mary could pick an astonishing two hundred and fifty pounds of cotton day. Though Mary was born into a large family. She was the only child to attend school. She walked five to and from the local school. And when she returned home, she would teach the rest family what she learned that day. Mary found a lifelong mentor and her teacher. Emma Jayne Wilson, who recognized Mary's talents and encouraged her to further her education. Wilson helped Mary get a scholarship to her alma. Mater Scotia Cemetery which Mary graduated from in Eighteen Ninety, four. The next year Mary moved to Chicago to attend White Moody's Institute for Home and foreign missions now called the Moody Bible Institute. Her goal was to become a missionary in Africa. But Mary found that no church would sponsor her mission and was told that black missionaries to Africa weren't needed. If she couldn't do missionary work Mary decided would become a teacher instead. After graduation Mary Moved Back Down to South Carolina where she began her teaching career. Not long after she met fellow teacher, Alberta's buffoon and the two were married, an eighteen, ninety nine Mary gave birth to a son. The pursuit then decided to leave. South Carolina for Polack Florida. At first Mary's days consisted of selling insurance and putting in long volunteer hours at her local. Church. But one, her marriage failed in nineteen o four. Mary was determined to find a better way to support her young son and more meaningful way to devote herself to her community. She decided to open up a boarding school for African American girls. Mary school maintain extremely high educational standards of which Mary was quite proud, proving to prejudice doubters that African Americans were just as intelligent and able to attain as high a level of education as their white counterparts. Mary, school eventually became college and Mary served as its president from nineteen, twenty, three to nineteen, forty two. This made her one of only a few women in the world at the time to hold such a position. In nineteen. Twenty nine. Mary's College merged with the all male cookman institute to form the Co Ed Buffoon Cookman College. The new college began issuing degrees in nineteen, forty three and served as a pioneer and setting very high educational standards for other black colleges, and educational institutions. The college is still thriving today as Bethune Cookman University. This is rotten INEX- hall I'm you showing INEX- side the pollinated. Mary was a lifelong advocate for racial and gender equality. She was heavily involved in local and national political movements and organizations throughout her life. After starting a number of local women's clubs and heading voter registration drives after women received the vote nineteen. Twenty Mary was elected President of the National Association of Colored Women's Clubs in nineteen twenty four. In nineteen thirty five, she was named the first president of the National Council of Negro Women. Mary was also involved in the exodus of black voters from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party in the aftermath of the Great Depression. Mary was a personal friend of Eleanor Roosevelt's, and she was invited to take part in President Franklin Roosevelt Administration this included a position as a leader of FDR's unofficial, very famous black cabinet there. She advised him on the concerns and issues prevalent within her community. In nineteen, thirty six FDR chose Mary to serve as director of Negro Affairs of the National Youth Administration. Making her the highest ranking black woman in the American government at the time. She remained in that position until nineteen forty four. In Nineteen thirty seven Mary organized an important conference to specifically address and fight back against the discrimination, and the continued lynchings terrorized black communities. Just three years later, she was elected vice president of the N. Double ACP. She held that position for the rest of her life. In nineteen forty five, Mary, was appointed by President. Truman to take part in the founding conference of the United Nations. She was the only woman of color in attendance. When not running a college doing important work for the government or working for organizations to advance the rights and create the space for her community Mary regularly wrote for two of the leading African American newspapers of the day, the Chicago, defender, and the Pittsburgh courier. She, also co founded a life insurance company based in Tampa and Co owned a Florida beach resort. Suffice it to say Mary probably didn't have much free time. Mary died in one, thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, five. She was eighty years old. In his obituary columnist Lewis Martin wrote. She gave out faith and hope as if they were pills, and she some sort of doctor. In Nineteen, seventy, four Mary's life and achievements were honoured with a memorial statue in Washington DC and in one thousand, nine, hundred five with memorial stamp. Her last home is a national historic site. All month we've been talking about feminists. 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Sports Talk with Junior 05/05/21

Best of The Steve Harvey Morning Show

04:28 min | Last week

Sports Talk with Junior 05/05/21

"Moving dame means that you and your things are in for a big transition. There's a lot to figure out new closets. Different counter space change a floor plan no worries cube. Smart is here to help. Make your move as easy as possible online or in person keep smart provides a self storage experience that puts the focus on you. Because you matter most moving can be costly and that's why cube smart is offering up to twenty five percent off your monthly rent. Say goodbye to moving stress and hello to your new address with qb smart self storage. Does it cute smart dot com for more details on this season of you and me. Both hillary clinton and her guest tackle the topics that shape. Our lives from. Raising kids to fighting disinformation too. Crossing the political divide wasn't as if we were the racing. Anything that happened but it was so amazing to see hope. And kindness. Reenter american veteran all episodes of you and me both with hillary clinton are available. Now listen on the iheartradio at apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts junior time for your sports talk what you got. Fourth dion sanders. Prime time is speaking out after no. Hsbc you players were selected during the nfl draft. I'm in two hundred and fifty man picks in the twenty twenty one. Nfl draft and not one single draft pick featured player from an hp. You mean detail me on all the talent at gremlin serving through cookman. How north carolina alabama state. Nobody jackson guy jackson thing where he that is two hundred fifty million. I know about three draft picks on the texas. They could get one from knowing you were from dick we drafted. We don't know nobody we got but that is that is. I think that's my problem is in. Hec area to give these guys these. These players jumped players to bring these county and brings with death. That's what he's dave he's giambi and joined by a lot of black head coaches at at hugh franciscan susan port not not one not one not produce and i mind you this hall of fame. That came out of acc schools. One jerry rice please. Hello ugly dude. We've michael straight hand. Hello walter payton walks per day. There is yeah. He didn't get drafted. He just came out by this morning. Those are just very unknown limited. Nfl facts. that knows. I see what steve. Kerr said that to preview which even makes in low impressing off. Now listen thank you junior. We'll we'll follow this story with you because it's interesting. We'll have more of the steve harvey morning show coming up right after this. You're listening to steve harvey morning show. When you rely on the internet for everything you need speed that can handle anything and now extended. He delivers wifi speed. Faster than a gig. Check out our amazing offers on internet and learn about the latest breakthrough from xfinity wi fi speed faster than gig. That's more than enough speed power all your devices and then some go online call eight hundred xfinity or visit a store today to learn more restrictions. Apply gig wifi requires gig. Speed battle by gateway actual speeds vary not guaranteed. Yeah no i'm not okay. That's how i feel sometimes. And that's also the name of many podcasts from elliot's studios. I want whoever outlives me to be like. She didn't die a broken person. She healed herself addiction. Depression anxiety radical self love. Yeah no. I'm not okay. Your new favorite podcasts. From elliot studios and meet diane guerrero. Listen to yes or no. I'm not okay on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Second Thoughts

Championship Drive

49:10 min | 2 years ago

Second Thoughts

"It getting knocked down on the football field makes you tough. But getting back up makes you tougher at Goodyear. We call that determination a willingness to put in more hours more reps and more of heart to reach a bar that sky high because the Goodyear blimp doesn't show up for just anybody. So don't be just anybody the blimp worthy. Good here. More driven. This program is brought to you by ice cold Dr Pepper, the official drink a fans. This is campus conversation. Now, here's your host, Ivan Mozelle. Yes, I am not. Peter burns as was promised in my apologies for that. It is Friday, September twenty first twenty eighteen. We are twenty four hours or so depending on when you download us from the bulk of week for got a little taste last night with temple drilling Tulsa, I've in MS l. here's the man, just said, welcome back to campus conversation. We actually have not just previews, but a lot of news to discuss. And when I say we, I mean fresh off his wilderness set lodge from another successful show of Marty and McGee. It would be which one is this? I guess it's McGee Ryan McGee as Paul finebaum calls me mardi Mckee. No, it's. It's if if us successful broadcasts, you mean we weren't cancelled as a Friday morning then yes, it was successful. Well, it is only eleven four eastern time. So let's give that a little time also from Adam unwritten Berg another great show on some network. Adam written barg. What's going on? Yeah, that is a hit show. Hey McGee. Are you guys ever going to auction any items off the set? Or can anyone get those as maybe birthday gifts at some point? Yes, sure. Dana. Yeah, I think a lot of it just came like from whatever your local homegoods, whatever. So yeah, I can hook you up just have to run down to the store. Okay. In all seriousness, who who was the wardrobe person on the show? That'd be us, I think, but you didn't like my Star Wars t. shirt. Well, I was just curious the, you know, the motif, the design, the thought process behind it this. So the set was designed by. I mean, we have set design people to use span and they did it in conjunction. No, no. I'm not making soap with a gun Atlanta and half. The stuff on our set is like from his house like we had to go by because when we moved to set the Charlotte, he's like, dude, this is from a house. I have to take this home. We're like, all right. Then I guess we're headed a Home Depot. Don't touch it. But how do you decide? I mean, is there like a cache of of t shirts at the McGhee state? Do you? Did you go out and buy that on EBay? Wh. How do you select what t shirts you're going to wear? Well, I have a lot of people were like ju just Bob much of Star Wars and marvel t shirts for because you're a company man and for the show I'm like, I didn't buy anything. I had all that in my closet. So and I and I don't need to buy anything new from what. So I have lots of t shirts with captain America Darth Vader. Well, there you have it. Okay. Well, we've we've rapidly driven into cul de sac on that subject. Let's talk some football. There's actually a lot going on a big injury at Ohio State. Some interesting redshirt news at Auburn, an update from Chris low in the middle of the night on the Alabama quarterback situation. And Nebraska finds an opponent to replace Akron, all that when we get out of the tunnel. Time to come out of the tunnel on campus conversation. At the top of the news on this Friday morning, Ohio State Buckeye defensive in Nick Bosa. One of the best players in the country had surgery yesterday to fix a core muscle injury and urban Meyer said yesterday, there is no timetable for his return. I can't stand how cryptic people are with injuries these days, and and coaches are all hiding behind the hip Alah. But that's a topic for another day. Both the suffered the injury in the third quarter of the victory over TCU last Saturday. He already had four sacks this season replacing him. Adam, sophomore, chase, young, who. Made no tackles against TCU last week, but had two sacks against Rutgers the previous week and also had to hers, which is the most of any of the buckeyes through three weeks of season. So apparently even the soft Moores who don't play a lot, have some talent in Columbus, otherwise the Powell and hide car going by you, which one which exactly what that very good pal and high dairy native thrown out. Some knowledge, chase, young is a name people should know. I'm glad you brought him up because I spoke with some Ohio State coaches about him before the game. You even a little bit with Gary Patterson leading up into the game with TCU last week, and the comment that I got from one of the Ohio State coaches, he's just getting started, and he's just a sophomore as you mentioned, guided they're really excited about a great competence excited about him in the cable cars to accept he's, he's a great complement to both of Nate mountain. May have to be that primary pass rusher if Bosa is out for the Penn State game, they're not gonna need both of this weekend's to lane, but they will need a pass rush next week as they go into state college to try to harass trace McSorley because we've seen what happens when McSorley has time, and this is still a young Buckeye secondary at certain positions. So this is a significant injury, but they're an area of strength for state overall that defensive line with the now clean shaven Larry Johnson or completely head shaven Larry Johnson and got to see him after the game. They're find defensive line coach going back to state college, but chase, young, big, big name to look at as he now probably has to carry that pass, rushing load against Penn State. I'd be surprised to see Nick boasts out there next week. Larry Johnson was a fixture on Joe Paterno staff at Penn State is what Adam is referring there. Ryan. I don't know how to break this to and and Adam hinted at it. But you told us before the show you were going to see Ohio State play this week. They're actually playing Penn State next week. They're playing to lane tomorrow. So you either got some bad info or you have a reason to go see how state play too late, and I can't wait to hear what that is. Well, I won't go. I'm working on a preview of the Penn State game the following. This is this is my gig now. I haven't. I go to the bad games the week before the good games to preview the good games. Does that make sense? I've seen a lot of there was a struggle to get that gig. Just see, you know. I was a late request for a credential. Surprisingly, it was approved quickly. I don't think that there was a lot of people. There was room and the press box for the two that what you're saying there was, I think I might have. I might have an entire road myself, but no, it's it's. But now suddenly. Yeses to lane. But this is a game without Bosa, and this is a game with urban Meyer on the sideline. And so I think there are more storylines maybe to a two lane game that there have ever been in a really long time. But the idea is, where are they mentally and and with the head coach coming back onto the sideline before, which is a giant football game. But I'll say this, they can get whatever happens with the Penn State game. Nick Bosa can probably take his time and rehab because it's in the Indiana, Minnesota Purdue. I mean, that's that's a winnable schedule for how state. So there's a chance to get him ready for the the annual November, big, ten push. Well, and our apologies of course to Willie Fritz as well as the two nieces and two nephews of mine who are two lane graduates. We saw and we tease because we love. All right. Moving on. Interesting. This story is fascinating to me much more so than the endless and relatively baseless chatter about Jalen hurts and what he may or may not do it, Alabama, and that is the Auburn is had two players announced this week that they are transferring before the redshirt rule kicks in. They've had four players total this week. It was starting wide receiver. Nate Craig. Myers who has had four catches the season. One of them for touchdown and tied in Jalen Harris earlier this season defensive bag. John Broussard punter eight in Marshall. It did. I didn't extrapolate this out atom that the red shirt rule would force players to make this kind of the season before we four and. Week, four is this week and it makes me wonder what's going to happen next week as players have to make a decision. What do you think. What is this? Just the natural fall out of this rule? Yeah, and I didn't think about it either. I guess I thought that it would be more of a coach decision of when I'm gonna use guys to maybe preserve the year and have them have this year still count eligibility wise to have it for the next few years. But the players kind of taking it into their own hands and looking at the situation like, hey, this isn't working out for me here I could stay and maybe play sparingly and have the year lost eligibility wise. Or I could say I'm transferring and not lose the year eligibility. So yeah, I wasn't looking at it like that going into the year in talking to a lot of coaches at media days, and maybe that was my problem talking to more coaches about it than players, but they didn't mention that this would be something that they were kind of worried about, but maybe it is a start of a trend or maybe it's just any certain couple players at a high profile program with an offense. I dunno. About you guys just feels like it's kind of a weird place right now. I mean, auburn's offense. If you look at the Washington game, you look at the game, and those are two really talented defenses, but I wasn't blown away by Auburn, offensively in either game and don't really know where they're at offense right now. So I do wonder if it's an Auburn issue, but I wouldn't be surprised as well. Ivan, if it's something that kind of proliferates around the country. It's the, it's the beauty Ryan of of the unintended consequence or or at least the fact that none of us are smart enough to figure out how these rules are actually going to play out. But all of a sudden you've got a lot of late September early October drama that that we may not have had otherwise. Yeah, it's free agency and Gus malzahn. His comment was you're going to see a lot more of this in the next week. I mean his his reaction. I think people were kind of hitting him up during his press conference this week about, isn't this devastating or isn't this? And he just said, I wish nothing but the best. But this is what you're going to see and you're going to see more of it coming in the next week or so. So yeah, the coaches may have all tried to play cool with this because Adam, I, I did exact same thing at the media days I attended, which is, hey, coach, what do you think I ask single player? And the reality is it's kind of in their hands now and to the point about hurts. I think he's going the other way. I mean, I have. No, I have no sources that tell me that, but I think he's playing a one year game. I think he gets his degree in December and he knows he can go wherever he wants to. And I think he his only intends to play one more year if he thought he was gonna play two more seasons than he would be doing what we're seeing from these other kids. But I think he's just he's, he's smart and he knows he can go somewhere and hopefully pull a Russell Wilson if you're him, and that's where that's gonna go. And I think that's a great well as a couple of points at come to mind one in our defense and defend us maiming those the two of you who went to media days and thank you guys. The players are at media days are not Richard candidates, they're stars. So of course it wouldn't occur to you to ask them that question and Jalen hurts despite all the noise and the endless chatter about what people think he's going to do. He has said he intends to get his degree from Alabama in December, and of course he could do that and and put and get off the team. After he is played in his fourth game, which we expect will be tomorrow. But that doesn't seem like something this young man would do. And our think that would make for very uncomfortable rest of the semester where he to do that. If he doesn't tend to get his degree. So it doesn't make a lot of sense. And along those lines, as we mentioned earlier in the show, Alabama coach, Nick, save until our colleague crisslow last night that he is proud of how Jalen hurts and to tongue of Isla have split quarterback duties. If you can call it a split and savings direct quote, it's the same as it's always been to use them both. It evolves a little bit as you go, our team has evolved. I can't tell you exactly how it will all play out. It's going to be whoever helps our team play. The best played a role in doing that close quote, and if you know Nick, Sabin, duh, so it will. I don't think there's going to be any news next week about Jalen hurts. I could be proven spectacularly wrong, and that never happens. But. I just don't think that there's going to be a story there. Let's move to Nebraska's announcement yesterday that they are going to play buffoon cookman and HPC you based in Daytona, they're going to play them in Lincoln on October twenty seventh, to replace the game, the opener against Akron that was canceled because of weather. There's no news on Nebraska's return visit to buffoon cookman. We await to hear that Adam. Yeah, go out Canada. Yeah. Well, and before cookman one in two so far, this season. It's an unfortunate piece of scheduling for them as they've now slotted Nebraska the week for the play, the fending champion, North Carolina, a and t so they lose that ability to rest up before. One of the biggest games in their conference. The Brassica will pay cookman eight hundred thousand dollars which to give you some perspective on what that is to Bill moose, athletic director, Nebraska. That is the change in in the space between the seats in his car because I did the math the most recent numbers for Nebraska. They had one hundred twenty million dollars in revenue and the twenty sixteen seventeen academic year. Eight hundred thousand dollars is two thirds of one percent. So if you can figure out what that is of, say your salary or the cost of. Inner. You can see that this is in the pocket change department of the husker budget. And Adam. I'm kinda surprised really. That this is the only replacement game we've heard about so far. Yeah. I mean, obviously, you say it's very much money for these schools to give up to basically have a guarantee game like this, and you would think it would work out well for school like men or other schools like that, you still have to match up dates. Even the game that I was state rescheduled is still contingent on state, not being in the big twelve inch of game and its opponent, not being in the playoffs. So everything's a little bit different. You would see be interesting to see if if all the schools that had the games cancelled because of the hurricane last week follow suit quickly. But I think Nebraska's in a pretty unique position because of Nebraska and they've got, they have money and obviously wanna play this game. And I think they're also team that right now is staring at, you know, no one, three start and probably wants to get some winds to at least have a chance to make a bowl game at the end of the year. So that's another consideration for some of these schools. I know it was for Florida state law. Last year. Yeah, and it's almost the Ryan is if for one thing, Nebraska could get the money back if this is the sixth victory, but I'm sure what Scott frost really want is those two weeks of Boll practice. And if this plane buffoon cookman can help them get it. Why wouldn't they do that? Yeah. Well, and this is the conversation that so the Nebraska's the North Carolina state's the these are the schools that are trying to figure out a way to reschedule loss gains because it might be the difference between either making a bowl game or not, or playing a decent bowl game or not, but but the you're exactly, right. Okay. And I'll give you the flip side of that. I'm very familiar with cookman because they literally almost across the street from the Daytona International Speedway where I've spent every February of my dull life there in tire football budget in two thousand seventeen was just a little over five million dollars. So wow, that eight hundred grand. That's gonna help. Yeah, no kid. That's that's actually that's the best part of the story. Yeah, that's that's a much better perspective and me talking about Bill moves his pocket change. You guys like, do you guys like that? I've always been a little torn about should we be really excited that big time football schools are given the little guys money or obviously this situation. But like it came up when the big ten was deciding whether or not to eliminate games with the in that you know they didn't want those games. They didn't think it was a. It was good for their athletes to be going up against the team with less scholarships. They didn't think it was good for the fans, but there is other side of it that it does benefit these other schools financially. And in some cases, it's a really cool opportunity for those kids at cookman to go into memorial stadium. I, I don't really know how to feel. I've been as you guys know a big person on scheduling better games around the country, but there's another side of it, which is what you guys are talking about? Well, I think if you're the big school, I'll give you one of these and I have a problem when schools are trying to squeeze two and three and right. But but listen, I grew up on small college campuses, so I didn't grow up in a world with ninety million dollar budgets. I grew up in a world with five million dollar budgets and not even that. And so you know, in there's a trickle down to this hour wrote a story last year. You know, I'll talk to the guys down at Mercer and Mercer last year ended up in this position where I think they played what Auburn and Alabama in the same year and reality was was that they're trying to build a program and I, let's take our losses and let's but we can pocket three million dollars or whatever it was for those two games. And the most central part was when I talked to the players and I was like, how do you feel about this idea of you? Gotta go to Bryant Denny and you've got to go on the planes, get your brains beaten, and they're all like a love it. They're like, what else? I would love to played there and now I have a chance to go there and play. I don't wanna get hurt and reality. Is that doesn't really happen a lot in those games anyway. So. So the point is is absolutely beneficial in the state of South Carolina. It's mandated by state law that Clemson has to rotate in South Carolina. They have to rotate through the citadel and firm and back in the day coastal Carolina because they're helping the idea say that you helped fund other programs in the state because we'd rather you keep that money in the state of South Carolina. Then go schedule a school from somewhere else and pump that money into another state. So there's absolutely benefits to it. I just I don't like it when to do it more than once. I'll give you one of those games that year when you start trying to squeeze too, in some cases three in a year. Now I got an issue. And that's a good point. These state legislature, I know I've heard that from Ohio State administrators in the passes to why they play MAC components as opposed to branching out farther geographically. My concern would only be the physical mismatch component and and and really the safety of the players because you know, there's a reason that the kid at Mercer isn't playing an Alabama and it's because he doesn't fit the, you know, the Nick Sabin checklist of hyphen weight among among other things. So you're going into that match up. Overmatched, but kids want it and they can come out of it holes. And I, I guess, you know, who am out of complain. So it's interesting and and it will be curious to see how thin cookman survives when they go to Lincoln, might be a little colder and Lincoln on October twenty seventh, and they tell him, but I promise you that it is. Yeah, we will see about that. Another piece of news and this is really more they prepare for the headlines later today. Maryland, the invested a board of regents at Maryland will announce the findings of its investigation into the death of Terrapins linemen. Jordan McNair later today, that announcement will come. The parents are Jordan McNair upset because they're they're not aware of any plans to inform them of either the status of report or to give them an opportunity to redact any information. They would like to redact regarding Jordan's death. The board is saying they don't know the results themselves so they won't until today. And if they do plan to share the findings with the family. Atom, I guess. Keep coming to you on this big tents, big ten stories, but there's really all we can do is I mean, what do you expect to hear from this report? First news, but the kind of news, sir. Well, there was confirmation late last night that the report was turned over to Jordan McNair family. But that only came after the letter from his attorneys went public expressing disappointment that they hadn't heard anything from the regions as this report was being finalized and being prepared to be presented today to the entire board and then eventually to the public. So fortunately they are able to kind of look over the report before it goes public later today. My sense is from people that we've talked to cal- Heather Dench is there reporting for us today in the state of Maryland that it's going to be more of what we heard in July that there were some steaks made in the protocols of handling a heat related illness by the athlete, training staff, and and perhaps others. There was no emerged in a coal tub. There was no taking tractor. They may have had protocols for some things that were followed, but not everything, and certainly not something that became so serious. So quickly involving Jordan McNair. I don't believe they'll be eight any sort of personnel announcements today, but it'll be more of a comprehensive. Here's what we found, here's we talked to, and this is what people said is how people behaved during that day. That's going to be an important component. There's obviously the investigation going on into the entire program that doesn't seem to be wrapping up really imminently, but it could be in the next week or so. So yeah, I don't think there's going to be any. You know this person is out or this person is in or any of that at the end of today. But we'll see. It's been a very long process there. It's been a, I wouldn't say a very smooth process by anyone airland, but you will. We'll have some answers to a degree later on. Afternoon and had there will be reporting for us. There. Ryan, you talked a lot of people in this industry. Do you get any sense that that what has happened at Maryland. Has made a dent on college administrators in terms of how poorly Maryland has handled this and as a waken them to the there. But for the grace of God go. I part of this. No, I think that they are all monitoring very closely. They're all holding their breath and no one's really commenting on it because they're watching it, and they're kind of hoping it goes away. I mean, there really is a big part of that because and this came this story just now a think nationally has gotten some traction because when all of this was going on, we were still in the middle of Michigan state stuff. We're still in the middle of Ohio State stuff. We're still in the middle of all the summer and all that. And I think that a lot of people were just now becoming aware of it there. There was a really interesting piece that I read in Washington Post's about Maryland fans. Now, just the listen, Maryland fans, and this goes back to my ACC upbringing. They're all Maryland football fans always or kind of waiting on the other shoe to drop in in this situation with the store was about about, they're just kind of like this is just the latest Bo. Glow in, you know, why are we even doing this? And it's really, this is not what being in the big ten was supposed to be, and it's it's. It is a horrible, horrible situation. And now they have become this example for all the wrong reasons. But yeah, administrators watch this. And I think that. And I think that administered the last thing called football coaches want is for administrators, get involved in practice or to get involved in what they're doing day to day. And what I hear from coaches is when things like this happen Declan Sullivan on the video crew at Notre Dame. This situation. Other situations is, you know. You know, other people don't handle their business properly, then ends up making life a lot hard on everyone else because now administrators and board of trustees and all that are getting involved in how you run practice. And honestly they need to, but that's, that's the long the long play on this is is more regulation, which is the last thing that any coaches are athletic director want. David Evans athletic directors spoke to the Maryland student government last week and was asked about whether there was video of this practice and he kind of had, you know, had to be a little bit diplomatic or political with the answer, but said, hey, we did not take video of the workout, but we will start taking videos of the conditioning and take video inside the weight room. And I think that's going to have to be maybe common practice around college football, especially, but maybe other sports as well as far as you know, is somebody watching everything to make sure that everyone's doing what they're supposed to be doing? I, you know, there may still be some video out there. I'll just say that, but there's no video from Maryland athletics of of the conditioning drills, but David Evans, telling the student government there that that's something that they're looking at doing in the future. Well, I can tell you this all these brand new, sparkling, multi billion dollar facilities, everyone's building. They have that built-in and every every time. Visitors facilities, these video guys that I know because of my video guy background as a student, they have pulled me aside and shown me cameras that are in meeting rooms and cameras during waiting rooms and cameras in the training rooms. And the reason is the Rijsel reason was accountability for the athletes. So the the player can't say we, yeah, coach, I never said Solan so well, yeah, you did. Here's video of our meeting or or coach. You never showed me so, and so, yeah, did here's video of our meeting or law did my work out like I supposed to know you didn't because we have the says, you didn't. That's why that was in place originally wasp being put into place. But in the new facilities, the the big brother factor is already built in. I think going forward, everybody's gonna have to go that. Well, that's that's mile. I wonder what with what Damon Evans Adam was saying that they have said is we need a record. Somebody's gonna actually watch this Gobert or we need a record in case something bad happens and we have a record to to see what happened. But whatever that's I think that's just the the, the big brother world is, is Ryan put it that we live in when we come back, your not video questions, walk on using the hashtag, walk on as well as our extra points, and we'll be right back pedal everybody. You're looking live at fans Ville a college football utopia. With the rivers flow with ice cold. Dr Pepper where every day is Saturday in everyone's fan, even babies and the seasons never change because the only season is college football season get a taste of fans Ville this fall during a college football game near you. Dr Pepper. The official drink of fans Ville. Grab some today hashtag walk on 's as promised. Dan as delivered by you. The walk on questions. We'll answer them as best. We can't, Josh. What do you have first questions for you? Ivan, it's from Scott s. m. w. ninety nine seventeen. Eleven Scott's. Yeah. Yeah. Louisville has already given Bobby portrayal an encore and he may now be wearing out his welcome. Is there any chance that the cardinals would consider giving another encore this time to Charlie strong. That's an interesting question. Charlie strong, of course, back at USF back at USF, but at USF and. I feel well, let me put it this way. My biggest concern about your premise is that Tom, Jerry is not the in movable anymore, and it was Tom Jurij who hired Bobby between the first time and the second time it's Tom Jurij. You hired Charlie strong. I would think. That. Loyd ill at this point would say, well, we tried bringing somebody back and it didn't really work out in long run under your premise. So why would we do that again? And. In that case, I think Louisville would look elsewhere where they going to look. I don't know. I really haven't given it any thought is obviously going to be a lot of up and coming smart young coaches, but I would, I think, and this may be an easy answer to to give, but I just don't see them going back to Charlie strong. Fair enough. Adam. Next one is for you from NYC pigeon young sang and y sees a preferred walk on how much impact do position coaches have on the way a team plays. It looks like Michigan is struggling offensively since the arrival of pep Hamilton in twenty seventeen apparently has unique NFL style scheme. They had to ten win seasons prior to his arrival. Then when eight and five and are still struggling. Yeah, I don't think it's fair to put it all on Hamilton because I think the whole operation there has been a little convoluted just to give people an idea before this season. It was a couple years ago. It used to be split calling between jed fish and Tim, Tim drive. No fish took the past plays in though, took the run plays, and then pep Hamilton has been kind of the past play guy the last few years, but Dr. No. Was there last year and this year you have Jim mcelwain at Warrener and Jim Harbaugh it's a lot of different people involved in the playcalling operation. So yeah, I mean, you certainly Hamilton as a coordinator and he's responsible in part for an offense, not coming along or quarterbacks, not being developed, but I just think it goes a little bit beyond his jurisdiction and ultimately followed in Jim Harbaugh lap. I mean, this guy was a great quarterback as a player. He's developed quarterbacks throughout his career as a car. College and pro coach, they've had good offenses in the past at his previous stops, and I think they're just again still trying to find that identity right now now with a new quarterback and shape Patterson. So I, this will be a year where you can really evaluate whether pep Hamilton is helping or maybe hurting the cause because if things don't work out this year on offense, I think they're going to have to take a hard look at everybody and decide where where do we want to go and who do we want really calling the shots. So I think partial responsibility is fair, but complete responsibility. When you have an offensive minded head coach, who by the way was a really good quarterback and develop quarterbacks before it shouldn't go on Hamilton shoulders alone. And finally, we go from one preferred walk onto another. This time drew Allen has the question. He's at the drew abide, and it's for you. Ryan drew says, there's been a rise obviously in new age uniforms with dozens of alternate combos and highlighter colors, but which team has your favorite class. Thicke Uni look. And which is your favorite new uniform look drew says for what it's worth. His personal choices for the new uniform is navy's dress whites. Well, with the classic he'll go at Notre Dame. Yeah. No, no. It's and listen to can't top golden helmet and and always of love. But I'll say this about army and navy in the air force to is that particular army navy. It's the classic uniform, but when they decide to step out of the box and when they decide to do something special, it is off the chart. And when when they've done their tribute uniforms in navy, had the personalized hand painted helmets a couple of years ago, air force went, would those just completely tricked out fighter pilot helmet to win when they when the academy's decide to step out of their traditional box that we love so much. That's my favorite alternate uniforms and it's not just because I love America. It's because this just good looking stuff. Now as far as classics go. Ivan, we just had a link to conversation about this not too long ago with a big anniversary for college football coming up next year. But for me and listen, I'm a south eastern east coast guy. There was nothing better as a kid. Then nothing made color television look better than the USC UCLA game and both games in full color and. Listen for all chip Kelly's issues that UCLA. In for all his dodging of questions when you're trying to interview the man. When I asked the question about, so are you going to go complete? Oregon just trick out uniforms at UCLA. His head snapped up and he made direct contact and he said, not a chance he goes, there's a lot of things that need fixing UCLA. The uniforms will never be one of them. And I thought that that spoke a lot, although they have gone from the the navy script UCLA on the helmets to the lighter script for whatever. That's that's. And that's when Penn State right Adam couple years ago, Penn State as tricked out as they would ever go is what they put the stripe on it and change the numbers a little bit. And it was all based on something they did in the fifties and people still completely flipped. Yeah, and Bill Bryant, but the names on the jerseys, even after honor those guys who stuck it out through the twenty eleven situation that that created a reaction. You're always going to get that Penn State. About ten years ago, Penn State had white, the outline, the colors and white. Remember that that was that was a big thing. But anyway. Yeah. I'm just glad Ryan had that question. Absolutely. But I've Euromonitor Stanford going against the school that really revolutionized uniforms in the first place. I don't believe we've gotten a pick from you cardinal or ducts this weekend. Oh, I think Stanford will win even though it's been a long time since they've won three in a row against Oregon, but the way the Stanford defense has played against tough competition, I think can overcome even the talents of very good quarterback at Osborne. Justin. The. Organised three and haven't really played anybody. And the Stanford defenses yet to give up more than ten points to me. I think that's sufficient to overcome the very difficult prospect of playing night game in autzen. That's the toughest place to play. I think in the Pac twelve, but. Stanford, we'll win. It is on the record. Keep the questions coming. Feel free to give Ivan a hard time. If his prediction does not pan out, just make sure you use the hashtag walk on and please if you haven't already done so subscribe rate end review our show in apple podcasts. The extra point. I can't imagine anybody giving me a hard time about anything really completely undeserved extra points. Yes, it's where we give you the full flowering of our intelligence. So naturally we keep it brief Ryan. What do you have. Well, I have one of my favorite people in college football, and that is David Cook live at Duke and Duke is three and they defeated army northwestern and Baylor, and they have done it basically being held together by athletic tape and bailing wire. They started the Baylor game with Bob starters, either injured or probably not gonna play loss to more during the game who did not return, and they still won forty two, twenty seven at Baylor. And now they have North Carolina central coming into town, and this is all building toward the game a little more that a week from now which is win. Virginia Tech goes to now I've said this on this show zillion times I grew up in the triangle. I grew tobacco road and I watched a lot of Duke football in person and sometimes by choice and sometimes not. And it was so bad for so long that having listen just this mind from from two thousand through two. Thousand seventy eight years. Prior to David clock cocoa arriving, they won ten games and eight years, and now they've made a ballgame. I believe five out of the last six years. They had maybe the greatest night in the history of the program that was a loss, which was when they made a New Year's Eve ball game down at Lanta and loss in the shootout. But I'll never forget going and sitting with David cut cliff who was quarterbacks coach when I was a student at Tennessee and cut have been at Duke for several years and head. The success in his name was being mentioned for some very high profile jobs around the country. And he looked at me and he said, why would I leave here? He said, I love being here. I love building something, and he goes, man if I win eight games a year at so. And so they will run me out of town like the digital miss. If I went eight games year at Duke when I retire, they're gonna have a statue me out in front of the stadium and they should put a statue cliff out in front of the state. Listen, he loves that job. And I love watching him love that job, and I'm telling you, if you win at Duke, did it is you've done something special and he's doing it on a consistent basis. Yeah, that's terrific. And it is been a lot of it has been a lot of fun to see him sixteen, and even the shot and Freud of seeing him succeed as ole miss floundered. It's been even better Adam. You're so bucks. More coaches need to go through that experience at ole miss to get the perspective that cut has now Duke and maybe not just be looking for the other job or the next job. All the time of all actually go back to that Stanford Oregon game. I also pick Stanford as did many of our colleagues on ESPN for this week, but I think it such an important game for the Pac twelve in multiple ways. I was did a show last night Pac twelve today on Sirius XM. Last night we were talking about just the struggle for the league to get attention. Well, here's the chance for you know, it's the big Saturday night game game days. Their first time the gave been Oregon since I believe two thousand fifteen or two thousand sixteen, and it's not only a game with two undefeated teams and teams that may be in the mix for the Pac, twelve championship, but you have star power you really do, and it's not USC. That's been the one school out out west. It's been able to generate real star power for its. Players, especially its quarterbacks and running backs. But in this game, you have Bryce love who's the Heisman runner up trying to get going this season, which has been a slow start for him. And then you have Justin Herbert and I encourage everybody to read at shops piece on ESPN dot com. About Justin, Herbert has video that goes with it did when he was up in Eugene. And this guy is a star that I think people should realize around the country, and we'll have a chance to finally see against a really good Stanford defense speaking the Lance Anderson, the defensive coordinator at Stanford this week, and he sees similarities between Herbert and Mitch Trubisky who's down the bears quarterback here, and Chicago who'd been in North Carolina. So they face each other in the sun bowl years ago. So I just think this is a really big opportunity to have a good fun competitive game. And then for these stars out west to show what they have or it'll be really easy for everybody to stop, paying attention to the Pac twelve after it's lost to washing Washington, losing to Auburn, USC str-. Ogling UCLA struggling Zona and Khalil Tate. Not really going anywhere. Herm. Edwards is nice story, but there's just not enough attention out there. That's why this game is gonna mean so much, not just for the teams, but for the entire league. Well, I think you're right, and and I hope you're right at them, but in terms of the league in the playoff, I think the fact that Stanford has to turn around from a night game on the road and then go play at Notre Dame two time zones away three times owns away whatever time it is in Indiana next week. That that to me is really problematic for Stanford and and maybe Stanford at twelve and one you'll beating Washington would make the playoff. Anyway. I think that's way premature. But you know, that's what we talk about. September actually wonder, do you think it's more important for them to win this game or next week's game? If they get to twelve and one. Probably next week, but if they don't win this week, I guess if they don't win next week and then beat Washington, we're presuming Oregon's going to lose to along the way and Stanford with within win the division anyway. But. Yeah, that's a good question. Nationally. A profile nationally, probably winning next week is more important. I just think it's really problematic to go on the road two straight weeks against tough competition. And the second one is a long trip. I think that's a lot to ask and then have Utah the following week at home. So it's really tough stretch for Stanford. My extra point. Again, I'm depending on the good work of our stats and info nerds pointing out this week, speaking of Notre Dame that when they traveled to Wake Forest on Saturday, wake will be putting its losing streak against AP top ten teams on the line. Wake Forest has lost fifty eight consecutive games against top ten opponents dating back to nineteen forty six was the last time that wake beat a top ten opponent. They upset number four, Tennessee, nineteen six. And the only reason that that. I wanted to talk about this was just so I could talk about the Wake Forest coach, Ryan p head Walker. Yes. Yes. One of my favorite college football anecdotes of all time is the story about head Walker recruiting at Wake Forest after the war, and he would take freshman and give them a tour of the Duke campus because it was so much prettier than. And then when they would arrive at the Wake Forest campus, they would go wait a minute. Where are we? And he said, all of that other campuses for the seniors. This is the campus for the freshmen. You gotta love a guy like not to mention his name was head, but just anybody could pull that off. And that speaks to maybe recruiting being not quite as sophisticated in nineteen in the nineteen forties as it is today about. And by the way, there's an outstanding biography. Written by Tucker Mitchell who's a Wake Forest along, and it's p. head with an exclamation point. That's the title book and it's always easy. And by the way, my brother, the Wake Forest grad was going to be angry at you for mentioning that stat until you said that the last time they beat a top ten team was mama mama, and now he'll bring hill probably bring that up every day. And that was quite an upset because Tennessee never left the top ten that year did not lose another game until the bowl game. So big win for wake. Maybe we'll see another one tomorrow at noon on ABC. It's noon eastern lot of games tomorrow we'll some of us will be at the stadium. The rest of us will be at Sony stadium as well. I for Ryan McGee for Adam written Bergen our producer, Josh macrey. Thanks a lot for downloading beano over to you. Again, thank you for listening to campus conversation. You can listen in subscribe to all ESPN podcast. In the listen tab of the ESPN app, including the herbstreet and Fitzsimmons podcast of Annibale in the ESPN app. Getting knocked down on the football field makes you. 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