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438 Return Of The Gentleman; Dr. Dain Heer

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438 Return Of The Gentleman; Dr. Dain Heer

"Mindfulness mode, four hundred thirty eight for every judgment. You have nothing that doesn't match that judgment can come into your world. So if you decide some something's. Right. That's the only way you can see it. Hey, welcome to mindfulness mode. I'm Bruce your mindfulness life coach and host of the show. So excited to have you here. I have a free meditation that I've created for you, and it can help you be more focused. It can help you just to feel more grounded and more relaxed, and you can get this free. Guided meditation at mindfulness mode dot com slash waves of content. Hey, I've put together a membership group called the mindful tribe retreat, and it's a virtual retreat where you can join me, and we will be there to we will be there to be accountable to each other. We'll be there to learn about mindfulness support each other, and it'll be a very positive very vibrant community of like minded people, and you can get in at an early bird price by end. You. Can be one of the founding members. If you act right away, we'll have a two hour live. Call every month in mill talk about topics that truly matter like pain and fear and forgiveness. You can sign up for this awesome group at mindfulness mode dot com forward slash M T are so mindful tribe today, I have a guest who has written a book about being a gentleman. And I think this is something that in this day and age, you know, there's a lot of talk about, you know, how do we fill our roles as women as men, and I think while I read the book, it was very, very interesting. I found it helpful. I found it. Excellent. And I think you will enjoy this interview as I spend a little bit of time with Dane here. So sit back relax and enjoy today's interview. Hey, mindful tribe. We are here with a very exciting gassed, and we're going to be talking about consciousness, mindfulness, and all kinds of different aspects of that. Of course, my guest has really taken this to a new level and you'll see what I mean. When we get started on the on the interview today, I've got with me, Dr Dane here. So Dr here are you in mindfulness mode today. I am so in mindfulness mode. I am ready. Let's do it Bruce. That's great. Well, Dr here is a bestselling author and I just finished his book, not too long ago, which is the, the one I have in my hand is called return of the gentleman. And I think that's something that we, we all need to be very aware of what's happening in our world as far as, you know, male female gender identity and and I found that this was an excellent book with a lot of great ideas presented. Well. Like I said, Dr here is a bestselling author reason entrepreneur, an internationally renowned speaker and co creator in leading facilitator of access consciousness, which is known across the world. And Dr Dane was originally raised in the ghettos of Los Angeles and then trained as a chiropractor, and he's the co founder of a number of businesses around the world and conscious and creative thought leader, there's so much I could say about you doctor here, but tell us what mindfulness means to you. Well, for me mindfulness is being president every moment with no judgment, and, which gives you a capacity to have awareness of everything that's going on around you and know what you can choose. It will actually create the result. You're looking for or critter greater result for the people around you. You are one of the original people with access consciousness. How did that come about? How did you form that company? Well, actually, it was founded ten years before I can, along by a gentleman by the name of Jerry Douglas. And what he was looking for. He got to a point in his life where he is. Like if this is all there is I'm outta here since we started his searches so many of us do in started realizing that, that what looks like reality to us, it's actually malleable if you can access the awareness that you have, which is why we call it access consciousness and see, we have a definition of consciousness, which is where everything exists, nothing has judge. And he started going down that path, and about nineteen years ago, I was at a place in my life where I was like, look, if my light doesn't change, I'm out of here, and I had one session of access consciousness bars. It's this light touch technique this done on the head, and I literally went in there. Depressed? Suicide uil. And I came out with a sense of gratitude, and a sense of possibility for life in future that I hadn't had in years. And so I was like, wow, this is amazing. And so I joined him a few short months after that in co creating this around the world. And so do you now do that process yourself, the bars processed? Oh, yes. That and so many other things. It's it's been the thing about accesses it continuously changes in grows which is really wonderful, because we should continuously change grow, too. So it's been a constant process of exploration over the last nineteen years of where people really limiting themselves, and then we also look from if this reality, as we see it weren't the only choice. What choices do we have possible beyond this reality, because we have we've had so many things that people call miracles? And from my point of view. There's you know, we have whatever reality somebody's functioning from. This this ball of what is real. If you have a level of consciousness beyond that, and you apply that to the smaller limited reality, that's what people call a miracle. But the person with this level of consciousness, is like, well, it's not a miracle in that it is actually explainable what we did is we undid the unconsciousness around this. We ended our points of view, if you will, we ended what was sticking us. And that's what created result. So that's what we've been looking for and looking to offer people for the last thirty years of, you know, we take from when it started while things have really changed as far as this whole discussion of consciousness and mindfulness. Of course. Mindfulness is a term that has come come upon more recently really and is now wide spread. But how do you think the world can benefit from from this change from my point of view? This change is actually the change the world requires. And because if we look at it if we look at it on a smaller scale in our life. Lives. The only time we ever created difficulty or create things that don't work out. Well for us is, when we functioned from unconsciousness, which is unaware nece or anti consciousness, which is where we go against our awareness to, you know, validate somebody else's point of view, or whatever we're trying to do, and when we start to become more conscious what happens is our lives just get easier. We get more productive we have less sickness less tiredness, less depression. We have more Pasadena create, which means more money, which means better relationships, which means a more fulfilling in happy life in, if we apply that see it. You know, a lot of us that are doing this type of work. You know, we have this awareness of something needs to change on our planet. You know, scientists telling us we have twelve years, if we don't change things within the next twelve years. Our planet's not gonna sustain us any longer. It'll be too late to reverse it from my point of view consciousness is the one thing that can create the change that we own. As possible that we've all been looking for. And what that means is to get outta judgment, and get out of the rightness wrongness of anybody's point of view on colluding, ours. And as we do it starts to open up is these other awareness is another possibilities for ways of doing things ways of creating change, you know, like cleaning up plastic in the ocean ways of creating sustainable, agriculture sustainable living systems that we have available. But if we're functioning because if is, so if consciousness from my point of view consciousnesses, where every possibility exists, and in so much of the world we've gotten away from possibility. We tried to do. It's right. We try to do it the way we're supposed to what consciousness opens up as well, if that's not your only choice than what else is possible, which is a question, a give people around the world. I say, please ask what else is possible, and ask how they get any better than this. In part of mindfulness for me is continuously being in the question. To the point where I live as the question when something shows up, even if it, it looks really bad at the time I go Kay, what's right about this? I'm not getting what else is possible here. And what's it going to take to change this? If we can get out of our reality of conclusion in judgment, because for every judgment you have nothing that doesn't match that judgment can come into your world. So if you decide something's. Right. That's the only way you can see it. If you decide it's wrong. That's the only way you can see it in if we would get out of our judgment. And instead, go, what is this, what do I do with it? Can I change it? And if so, how do I change it? You've got a totally different place to function from because we're no longer going from this is right? This is wrong. This is good. This is bad. This is terrible. We go. Okay, may look terrible. But what choice do I have that can change it into something? That's not terrible. I'm very interested in talking to you about your book, the return of the gentleman. What was the main message you wanted to? Get across in your book. And why did you decide to write this book? Well, I if I may answer the first question I, I wrote it because I was sitting at one of the conferences, I was delivering with twenty three year old man who was a friend of mine who'd been, and we met each other to access consciousness classes, he was attending classes. I was and he turned him in. He said, I want to say thank you. And I said for what he said, you have shown me how to be a man in the world. I want what, what are you talking about is like you don't understand, like for years, I searched the internet for how to be a man, how to be a good man, and I tried to find the answers for how to be the man that I wanted to be because they didn't see anybody in my life being, including my father, including all of my male role models in my life. Nobody was being somebody who was their there, presidents them. Not judging people not trying to pretend to be macho, not making their entire life about getting women into bed at cetera et cetera. All these stereotypes that we have he said, and I met you. And you were being different and you've given me permission to be what I really have. And I realize I'm a kind person. I actually adore women, and I like having sex with him. He's like, and I you know, I stand up for women's rights, and I stand up for the women in my life, and he said you've shown me this as possible, and I was like it, blew me away. I had no idea, and I had no idea that this information was an out there. And I had no idea that the way that I was looking at at being a man being a gentleman in the world was something that, that might actually contribute the other men and women is this conversation is, is definitely not just about man. It's about all of us in. That's, that's part of what a gentleman does includes everyone in his life to see how he can actually make it greater. And so I decided to write the book because this conversation with him. And then there were a couple of other guys who walked over to the table, and they heard our conversation, they said, yeah, I've got to say this to, I didn't have any idea that I could be. Be a strong man without without trying to dominate people in and overpower them. And I've learned that, too. And I was like, whoa, okay. Let's have this conversation. So I created a series of zooms with some gentlemen from around the world in we explored this topic Indian exploring the topic, I realized this, this needs to go out into the world, and it was interesting because the, the guys that listen to the zoom would send me emails and say, thank you so much. I finally realized, I'm not wrong, and I finally realize I'm just different than what I thought man was supposed to be a nobody ever showed me anything different in women would send in emails saying, thank you so much for this in this from the book also it with the number of times, a lady a woman would send in an Email, and say, thank you so much, my husband or my boyfriend has either read your book, or watch the zooms. And I feel like I have the man back that I got in relationship with. I don't know where he went, but he disappeared somewhere along. The way in his back. And so my target and writing the book and my message with a book is we as gentlemen in the world have a place. And but what we have to offer. The world is different than what we've been taught at typical man is supposed to be that we judge ourselves for not being a net if we would actually step into the recognition that we can be everything that we are. We've got a chance to not only change our lives for the greater and all the relationships in our lives with enough of us doing it. We have a chance to change the future of relationship and the future of masculinity femininity on the planet so that it's not a separation and a destructive element. But Jenner development, I love the tone of the book and how you got those messages across in such a relatively quick, easy, read book is not a big thick book that you have to devote, you know, several weeks to reading, you can read it, you know, in a couple of days quite easily in. I just wonder what is. The mindfulness that it takes to put together a book. That is so concise like that in easy to digest. Well, the beauty of this is my schedule is so busy at this point that it, it really was where I had to rely on other people to take the salient points. Because for me, I want to tell everybody everything all the time. Thinking some out if I can give you more info your life. I'm sure it'll get better. You know, which is an insane point of view, on my part. And so what I did is I took several of the things that I wanted to make sure that we're in there and spoke about them talked about them recorded them. Then I asked some people that I trust dynamically. I asked three different people. I said, hey, will you. Please contribute to this, and my business manager communications coordinator is phenomenal at calling all kinds of different pieces of information in taking what is actually most contributory in the most concise and putting it together. And we worked with an amazing editor to put all that together. And it really was for me, a, I'm gonna say a leap of mindfulness if you will wear, I was just like, okay I'm trusting the universe that this can be done in a different end easier way than I've done it before. And in I had trust in the people that contributed to. It in from my point be. They did a phenomenal job. Pulling many pieces together and in creating this book out of her. So Dr here today right now, what's your biggest fear? What's your biggest fear challenge? Well, I would love to say I have fear, but I don't now when I say that now I have to also say there, there certain things that I will say that are from an awareness gain from nineteen years of exploring different reality beyond this one. If you will in. So when I say that to, you know to, to say that out loud, a lot of people go. Oh, you're, you're just allusion. All your your. What is that when you separate, you know, you're separating yourself from what's real? No. I'm actually extremely present with what is real. And in, in contrast that with where I was nineteen years ago, I had fear running my life. And so what I've come to realize is. Fear is not a reality. It's an invention and it's also something I call an implanted point of view. It's something that an implant point of view is a false version of reality that we function from that seems more intense than reality itself. And we have what is an implant consist of. Well, my sense is part of it is where, you know, let's say you have parents who live in fear, as minded, what we do is, we tend to pick that up so dynamically that it acts like it's own artificial intelligence in our head now. And so you go to react, a situation comes up in your first reaction is that same thing that you learn from and dad, you know, these people you trust these people that love you. They brought you into the world, you know, and so you go into that reaction will what I've done is, is changed it over the years, using access consciousness tools, and what's interesting to me, it would be one thing if this just worked for me, I was out there. But I'm the only one in everybody else uses these tools still has it. I see this. I've. Seen this occur with hundreds of thousands of people who live their lives from fear in, you know, if you were to ask them, what is your fear, they go? I don't have fear. I just haven't awareness of possibilities are things that come up. They don't create fear in my world anymore. Instead now I'm really present with it, and I'll stare the tiger in the eyes and go who's gonna blink first and so this fear that stops so many people it it's, it's actually an invention. It's actually something that we can change really quickly dynamically will allow ourselves to. But we I gotta get to the awareness that, okay in one of the things I learned a long time ago is if somebody else can do it. So can I and I didn't always believe that, by the way, I've learned that over the years, but so I say, look, if I can do it, if hundreds of thousands of people around the world can do it. So can you. And the difficulty is a lot of value our fear, and what I found is an if you will. Look at the physiology of it, physiologically fear and excitement are the exact same energy. And so the number of time somebody has set him starting a new business. And I'm so afraid and I go wait a minute. Are you afraid or you it cited God, I'm actually excited? I know unlike but we've all learned to miss identify misapply excitement as fear for most of us in. So it's oftentimes things that excite us the most where we go. All my God. I'm so afraid and I love the story Gary tells he says, you know I was going on a ferris wheel. When I was six years old was so excited, I was jumping up and down and it was pulling on my mom's skirt so excited. And she looked down and said, now don't be afraid dear and from that moment on, he misidentified that energy as fear, and he said, you know, it really ran my life. And but the biggest problem was when I went to have sex for the first time I was wait a minute. I was terrified, but no, I wasn't terrified. I was excited. And that's when it started breaking apart for them. So they're different. Will we haven't access consciousness is totally different ways of looking at things that are from beyond the reality that if live that's handed to us? But it's from a reality of if I were truly an infinite being, what would choose, and how do I get there because it's one thing to ask that question, you know, if you ask somebody involved in mindfulness, or certain spiritual searches you know, are you an infinite being they go? Well, yeah, but why does my life look this way? If I'm an infant being like exactly. But if you are at that's actually true, then there's a way to get a lot closer to the choices and infinite being would have which is really would access consciousness is about, well, you talked about bars already, you, you mentioned about bars is being one of the amazing tools at access consciousness offers what are some of the other tools? Well, there are we have about eight thousand so let me just give you an giving you a couple already one at one is to always ask. A question rather than come to conclusion, and how does that work? Well, something shows up, you know, like let's say you get a Bill that five times what you thought it was the initial reaction, most people have his own my God in the naked track. And then it's a trauma that sits with them sometimes for days, sometimes weeks, sometimes months, that's where that's where they stopped creating their lives. So in that case she wanna go, okay? Cool. What's right about this? I'm not getting can I change this? And if so, what's it gonna take to change this, so that fundamental way of being in the world where you start functioning from question, and start asking questions, even if you don't believe it because not a lot of us believe it when, when we have something go on his, we wanted decide that it's bad or wrong, or, or terrible, and we need to get out of that, because that judgment of it, once again any judgment, you make nothing that doesn't match that judgment can commit your awareness. So in addition to the question, what goes with? That is. Is getting out of judgment of right or wrong because the interesting thing is, you know, if we judge something is bad and terrible, at least that thing were willing to change. But when we judge something is right good perfect or correct? That's still a judgment, but we're not willing to change it. And so, like, for example, before access I had this girlfriend in, I decided she was the perfect girl from me. And I just knew it. And so, I couldn't see where she actually didn't really like me that much couldn't see where she would say things to invalidate me in front of other people like oh yeah. He's just a chiropractor, blah, blah, blah, you know, all those sorts of things because of that judgment that I had. So we can get out of judgment. We can start to get to awareness, which is often totally different than the judgment that we had about how something is going or how it works. In another thing, we have is a clearing statement, which is also in the book in that, that is one thing that is a way to clear. Your limited beliefs to clear, you know, the, the BS beliefs that we have a, a really dynamic way in, you know, sometimes, you know, say it in. Sometimes people go. Are you speaking a foreign language, but what it does is? It's a way of for any limited point of view. You have you wanna change what I used to do before having access to this clearing statement was, I would do visualization and try to follow it back as far as I could and try to get where I had locked it in place. So I could unlock it with this. You can unlock thousands of points of view all at the same time just by asking for it in for me. It's one of the tools that consciousness is providing us to make the journey easier. It's sort of like this magic wand to get over your crap with a lot more ease rather than having to work so hard at it. I don't mind hardwork don't get me wrong. But I'd like it to be if I'm gonna work hard. I want it to be really effective in create a great result. And that's what this does. Sure, what does your own personal meditation practice? Look like doctor here. Well, I'm probably gonna go to limb on this one also because I don't meditate. I used to before access I would sit and meditate or try to, as I should say, I know you know, when, when a person begins to meditate, we all know it's, you know, the best attempt until that space where you can get to the awareness of, of that space of being at this point might life is like a walking talking meditation. In other words, the well let me actually let me join this with your previous question about tools, because this is from my point of view. It's vital in one of the things that we found in access consciousness is ninety eight percent of our thoughts. Feelings and emotions are things we pick up from other people, and nobody knows it. So ninety eight percent of the monkey mind that goes on is things at your picking up from others. Without even knowing that you could be that psychic and aware go, we're all like big psychic radio receivers were like big psychic SpongeBob. And so what would happen for me is that would go? To meditate and you and I'd be there. And, and I would get this thought in my head. Oh man, I got to pick the kids up, and I'm like I don't have kids. You don't like what, what? And then I would go, oh gotta wash windows, I'm like, no. I live in an apartment, they do that. You know, and they're all these things that run my head and I didn't understand it. And then I got access consciousness in one of the first tools. I got was to ask this question who does this belong to, to every thought feeling emotion judgment? You know, the weird heavy energies that we get screwed as this belong to in, if it lightens up at all. It's not yours. You're picking it up from somebody else. And so the very next morning, I woke up, I would happen was I had this bar section, and it was like, oh my God. Everything is possible now so excited to be alive. Then I went to sleep. And as I often, did I woke up the next morning, and I think a lot of people who in the mindfulness can relate to this. You go to sleep feeling good. You may have just meditated before bed or whatever your one this with the universe, and you wake up and you're like, oh, my God. What's going on? You know, it was like the south end of northbound elephant sitting. In your head. And so I just gotten this tool who does this belong to. And I was sitting there depressed as could be, as I as often happened when I woke up, and I actually was sitting there literally lying in bed crying, because I just had this amazing opening the night before the day before in here. Pellagra was all gone. Who does this belong to was written down by the person that did my bars session, and I said it when empty, my pockets, I happen to set up by my clock and what would happen for me is I would wake up in the morning and I would cry because of fear because of being sad and feeling like all the things I knew I wanted to create we're not happening on so here I am. I have that elephant head, I look over to see how long to lament my life before I have to get up and be a doctor and try to help people. And I read these words, who does this belong to in instantly gone? My eyes were open like that wide item. Oh, gee. You know, it's like what and it literally wasn't there. And I look for it and I couldn't find it and I was. Overjoyed, and pissed off all at the same time, I was overjoyed because it went away and pissed off because I'm like, somebody should have told me this. When night as soon as I could talk that I'm this aware this psychic. None of this stuff is yours. And so this, so for me in, we have this, where she having or we have a who, does this belong to it's free their videos, there of knee explaining the statement, me explaining how to do this. But so what I did was I in, in doing this thing that we suggest asking who does this belong to every thought feeling emotion that we have for three days in every heaviness in every judgment. And if it lightens up, it's not yours. All you do is return it to sender with consciousness attach, and don't worry if most of the people you picked it up from it wasn't there's either. So it actually goes back to the original source, wherever the heck, that is. In fact, I have this point of view. There's probably just one person thinking on the planet in eight billion of us are picking up. So after doing this is belong to for three days, I literally walked around my life like. Walking talking meditation. And at this point, I travel over ninety percent of my life, and I can walk through cities, like Sydney, New York. Shanghai Unum it and I don't have any thoughts in my head. And so when I save my, my life really is a walking talking meditation. Don't say that from a superior authority. I say it from an awareness of as beings. That's my sense of how we would be, you know, if you look at a dog they don't think they just be cats. Dolphins horses every other animal on the planet just is I mean, could you imagine if you had a mind like most of us do and you were a horse standing there, all day eating, you tried yourself crazy? But they don't sit there thinking they don't go all my God. I I'm really I'm too tall. Oh about the you know all this crap that. You know, and if we can get rid of ninety nine ninety eight percent of our thoughts feelings and emotions than the rest. We can actually deal with, with a lot more ease. And I think part of our attempt to deal with some of the things we have is such a difficult to because it's not are stuck in, if it's not yours, you can't change it. The only thing you can do to change. It is acknowledged. It's not yours. And let go of it while I, I really liked that. And I think that app would be just awesome. Who does this belong to is the name of that? So, yeah. Check out that app. Download it. I always ask a question about bullying doctor doctor here because I've worked in the area for over ten years. Have you a story about bullying either where you were a bully, you were bullied or could be in business or in childhood, where mindfulness would have made a difference? Oh my. Well, let's put it this way, from my point of view in every situation of bullying mindfulness would make a difference. If. It were they lable, and I say that because let's, let's look at the bully somebody is only a bully when they feel like they have no power when they have no value, and they're trying to overcome that sense of deep seated into curiosity about themselves. And if in what I've seen it's interesting because I've actually worked with bullies. And I've worked with a lot of people who've been bullied and what's interesting in working with the bullies is, you know, they'll say to me, it's because I'll have a conversation in class about bullying or something in that realm and or abuse or whatever they're, they're they sort of play together, you know, and someone will come to me and say, hey, it's really tough to say, but I have been a bully. I've been bullying my kids. I've been and I say to them, unlike so were you ever acknowledged for having value, just as you were ever acknowledged as being value? You existing on this planet. I go. No not one time. I can think of, and then. What I ask him is this question, I say, what would happen if you started treating people the way you should have been treated, not the way you were treated, and they go? Whoa, wait. A minute. I can do that. I'm like, yeah. This your life is your choice at this point. Yeah. You have this childhood. And you've had this dislike up until this point that has been the lead from this place, but this is your choice now. So what would happen if you treated people the way you should have been treated, not the way you were treated, and then they start in, they get a narrow awareness? And this is also from, you know, from my sense of where we're the mindfulness starts being able to flood into their world is from my point of view mindfulness is also the awareness of what actually is not the lies about what is not, and it floods into their wariness. That this is the way they were treated that they're now treating other people and this is what I see in with most people is that they treat people the way they were treated. Without even realizing it, and when they get that awareness, their world shifts, I can't tell you the number of time somebody was a bully in says, I am changing this, and I went to yell at my child the other day, just like my dad used to yell at me, and I just stopped myself in. No, the other beauty is, we have these access consciousness tools, including the clearing statement that make it easier to change that deep seated energy that deep-seated sort of foundation of that limitation, because it it's an energy that's down there that you function from in. It's almost like you start from this energy, and then you have only the choices that are based on that and what we do with access with the clearing statement is we find out the point to you. They have we unlock those now that energy is not there that they functioned from now they actually have a space to function from, and from my point of view once again, and I always say that from my point of view because somebody else may have a different point of view in their, they're welcome to have it. You know. Site. I'm just providing this in case it contributes to somebody. But so for me, the sense of space, when we have a sense of states, which is what believe meditation is designed to give us when we have a sense of space, walk into our lives, which is what mindfulness is designed to give us. We don't function from resistance in reaction anymore. We don't function from fight anymore, and we also function from a sense of inclusion of everyone in everything in. So somebody will say, yes, I went to yell at my child just the way that, you know, my dad yelled at me, and I realized I was being my dad, and I asked myself, do I truly desire to be this way? And what if I treated my kid the way I should have been treated, and I stopped myself in the moment, I looked at them, I had tears in my eyes, and I said, I need to do something different. Can I have a hug and totally changed the situation? And so there's this different perspective that we can have. In what I've seen is for every limited point of view. We have for every way we function from limitation. There's this other perspective. There's this other awareness that we can have that will undo that limitation and actually turn it into possibility. One of the things I say to people announce them this question. What if what you thought was your greatest wrongness is actually your greatest? Strongness is what is truly strong about us. What is truly the essence of mindfulness or consciousness that we are it has the strength to it? But in this reality, we live in, it's so different than what people consider normal in. They keep trying to make us normal or they keep trying to make it so we can fit into this world in. So what they do is they dig tried to eliminate those things that are the, the greatness of us that are the strongness of us by somehow making it wrong because they just don't get it. You know, it's like if you start meditating go tell your, you know, your conservative family, you're meditating. They're like, oh my God. Oh be. Vegetarian monk you know, like we give we, we just get crowd from people who don't get the gift of what it is for us. And also also the gift that it can be on a larger scale doctor here for my listeners, what would be a first step if we wanted to be more connected with access consciousness. Do you have to go to a live event? What would you have to do? There are so many one one might be to visit my website, which is Dr Dane here dot com. And I say that because there's a lot of free stuff on there. Like you can check out some videos. Also, the return of the gentleman book. And also, I read another one called being you changing the world that one is in contrast to the turn of the gentleman book, being changed in the world is over three hundred pages, but it's an easy read, those are some really good ways. Also, I've got a YouTube channel with over three hundred videos and the videos primarily or there's different things. You know there's one seven things universe would tell you. If if you would only listen, but there's, there's all these things of just five minute videos of a tool that you can use to address the situation also, you know, if, if somebody is more interested in learning about the bars. We have a bars class, which is a one day class than we have classes after that. There are so many so many ways to get involved in, you know, you can do so much of it without paying a dime. Then there's a lot of it, you can do paying a few times, you know, and then so we have sort of all the way along the spectrum, but we wanted to do is pay forward this gift, you know, for all of us facilitators, what we wanted to do is pay forward this gift that access has been in our lives in give as many tools to people as we can. So they can start changing things, and then if they wanna come to class, we're more than happy to see them there, too. That's we also on thank you. And just gonna add, we also have online classes, you know, like like short courses. That are available there, too, that are another way of sort of experiencing it to see if it's right for you. And, and if it works for. So it's Dr Dane, here dot com and Dane is D A, I N and here is H, E R. So Dr Dane here dot com. Check it out. I wanna ask you five, quick answer questions. If that's okay, doctor here and just thirty second answers are perfect. The first one is this who is one person who has influenced mindfulness in your life. Gary Douglas founder of access consciousness note hands down. He's a pretty amazing guy. I was mindfulness affected. Your emotions the emotions have gone from sadness despair, trauma drama to is joy, exuberant expression abundance in a sense of possibilities. Wow. Tell us about breathing and how that's part of your mindfulness breathing. I love it. And, you know, in some of my favorite meditations have been breathing meditation. But I notice when I tap into my breath in have that sense of the connection with my body and then breathe it out to the universes. There's a sense of communion with everything that's possible, if allow, well, your book is, is awesome. I'm holding it up again here return of the gentleman. What other book would you recommend that related to mindfulness? I know that you have been a part of so many books that have been published, I would say being, you changing the world or another of my books or another other book while it could be another other book as well. Okay. So I would say being you changing the world as a as a journey that truly it's not just something you read in think about it changes you to be more mindful as you read it. And then I what I would add to. That is anything, vibrant Abe round. She's got such a vulnerable present. Beautiful beautiful way of being, I would highly recommend anything that she'd, right? She is life changing. That's for sure. Can you share an app? You already did share an app. You told us about an app, which helps you to be more, mindful. But maybe have another comment on that yet, I would say this access consciousness, who does this belong to as far as mindfulness goes as far as what I know to be offered with that is, is it reminds you to ask does belong to tells you why gives you tools that that's going to be top on my list. Okay. Great. Well, it is been fantastic talking to you, and it's Dr Dane here dot com. And I just appreciate you being on the show, so much Dr here, Bruce. Thank you so much. And I truly appreciate you bringing this awareness and getting it from so many people around the world. Thank you. You have a great rest your day. Bye. Now. Thanks. So much for joining us today on mindfulness mode for show notes for every episode gieco mindfulness mode dot com and type the guest's name or the episode number into the search bar, you can also go mindfulness mode dot com slash whatever. Episode number. 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028: A Sustainable Holiday

TN Magic Moments

37:57 min | 2 years ago

028: A Sustainable Holiday

"Welcome to the magic moments podcast where we highlight agriculture in everyday moments. I'm lauren bath with u._t. Institute of agriculture in today i'm joined by a few friends and colleagues here at the institute with the holiday season closing in quickly. We thought we might tap into some of our knowledge gleaned over the years both from working at the institute of ag and also through our own unique passions and pursuits. We wanna talk about sustainable holiday christmas without access or or whatever holiday you celebrate this winter season with less trash less plastic more thought more compassion and hopefully just a bit simpler. I think everybody the at this table celebrates christmas so today's conversation will be kinda focused on christmas. Let's get a quick introduction from each of you so our lovely listeners can know who were talking to. My name is beth. I work in marketing and communications for the institute of agriculture and i'm really excited to be here today. Thanks beth breath my name story salvador. I also work in marketing communications for the insulator culture <hes> with beth and i was gonna try not to say the whole thing because it's very long and i'm just repeating and now this is really long. Institute of ag loves long title. It's yes yeah distinguished though it is is it is very distinguished sobe. I'm sophie schmidt. I am communications coordinator also in the office of marketing communications for the institute. I love the amount of creativity that's represented in this group right now so i think we're going to have some pretty unique spins on some traditional holidays stuff yes yes so first question i want to start with is just pretty basic. What are some of your favorite holiday traditions so let's start with yeah. Well i mean the very first thing that came to mind was cookie making which is such a big deal in my family specifically. Just i think because it's we all love baking. We love cooking spending time together in the kitchen as early big tradition for us and so their specific civic recipes that our family does each christmas and then specific recipes that like each of us does and then brings to the table aw cookie making. I love though because that's something you can do together. It's a big like spending and making time for family around the holidays instead of like going out shopping together. That's kind of our alternative is just getting in the kitchen like tori. <hes> man food is the first thing i thought of too. I mean i think everybody but i think i mean one of the things for me is decorating lay growing up decorating the christmas tree with my family which we still try to do and we're all in the same place but but it also is like a way to make new traditions and make a little bit of a home wherever like my roommate and i are gonna decorate our christmas tree in the next couple of days and that should be fun and makes a really feel like it's the holiday exactly beth and love opening presents with my family christmas this morning my mom and dad and my siblings were all pretty thoughtful gift givers and <hes> opening what's under the tree the and celebrating our love for one another <hes> issues really special. You know you can open a gift and realize how well someone in your family knows you because how perfect it is and that's always really fun for me. I like it like oh. Everyone's ideas are just a little bit different but also i think you guys tapped into something and really important and something that we sometimes forget and really helps make something sustainable is the things we really love and are important about the holiday. Season aren't really centered around all of the commercialism. It's being around the people we love exchanging gifts gift symbols of love with them and doing things with them yeah <hes> i did with ruin. Some quick stats just to kinda show why this conversation is important and and maybe why you should consider around the holiday season making a little bit more sustainable choices so the c._d._c. has some stotts americans americans throughway about twenty five percent more trash between thanksgiving and new year's eve so essentially a quarter more trash during two months and if every american family wrap to just three presence in reused materials it would save enough paper to cover for forty five thousand football fields. That's a lot of football field. That's great. That's insane so i mean i think the connection to agriculture is is very evidence <hes> and then the final one is about thirty five percent of americans have unused christmas presents collecting dust in their closets so i thought what we could kind of pick each other's brains about some ideas about how we're making a little bit more sustainable choices or some just unique ways. We're celebrating the holidays days. Maybe let's start with decorations. That was your favorite part of the holidays story. Oh yeah so so. Do you have any ideas of how you can make decorating for the holidays just a little bit more sustainable. I mean thinking about like the way that my family handles it especially. They usually get a christmas trivia but there's a lot of stuff that we use. That's been heirloom quality like the garland that my mom does. Every a year is made of these really pretty wooden beads. <hes> there's a lot of ways in which we used just like the same things that are really high quality that had been around forever and then it means more as well because we're all so familiar with it. I was gonna say just jumping and thinking about things that are easily reusable cepal rather than just getting something that maybe you use one holiday season and then it's done. I think it takes exhibit of investment. You know like <hes> thinking about the cost per use <hes> you know. Maybe you buy something really inexpensive but you toss it but the following year he can. Maybe <music> spend a little bit more and get that heirloom item that your kids are going to be able to enjoy. Maybe you can even pass it down to grandchild someday. You know like investing an in quality. That's i think a really important thoughts is trying to be thoughtful about our purchases. If it is going to be a little bit more expensive it's going to be something that's gonna be reused and it is going to become the airline peace and it's gonna be like a family tradition and i think that adds more value and just more fun it also ties in really well with supporting small local businesses because that can be an excellent way to invest not only in the community but also something the thing that's going to last longer. It may be handmade but it's going to be made of nicer. Materials nicer quality stuff and last longer yeah and another thing to consider is also if you do want something. That's a bit more fresh indu. Every year is considering real and natural. Things wchs am so actually u._t. Gardens has a class on december eighth. If you guys are interested there's a holiday wreath making class. If you go i know isn't it so cool. I wanna wanna go but yeah if you go to dot tennessee dot e._d._u. Slash u._t. G you can find information about that and i think later this month. They also have have a natural dye class for children. I know so yeah. I think that's an amazing way to to have some fresh difference france <hes> decorations every single year and all of that can be compostable recycled <hes> and if you get a real tree at least you're in in knoxville. They've got recycling <hes> were they will pick up your tree for free and recycle it. That's pretty cool. Yeah you could also maybe think about purchasing a christmas tree that has the root bulb intact so that you could just plant it at your home or maybe getting a smaller caller tree. That's anna plant her and then it becomes you know just evergreen decoration for a balcony or deck. If you're in an apartment but figuring out you know how does that tree <hes>. How can it continue to live rather than you know yeah composted if you've purchased one that <hes> the roots are cut off but you can also so enjoy it for a long time just on your property. My grandparents did that and it lined the driveway and so they'd be like different sizes as the years went by really cool. I love that my family has done that several times and especially when we were little my little brothers used to love it because they would like name the tree and then it became like a family like who we gotta go water bruce most character. You're telling me it was bruce spruce. It would yeah great. That's spectacular yeah in another quick plug as far as places to find find ideas pick. Tennessee products has a list of local tree farms near you so if you wanna make it an outing lot of them will have hay rides apple. We'll citre and activities for the kids and you can go pick out your natural christmas tree. You can also use picton products to bind local sources for vegetables and fruits that are in season so as you're you know cooking or baking with your family or figuring out your holiday menu. <hes> there are lots of foods foods that are in season right now so sit dress brussel sprouts <hes> winter squashes of all different types and using foods that are in mm season and local or a really great way to make your holidays more sustainable too that is a great segue to the next topic which is the christmas dinner or holiday fees fees and like you said another one is root vegetables. Those are all in season so using those for for your christmas dinner so i was like to think about the place settings to <unk>. You've got family over and you pull out the styrofoam place. It's the holidays you have that china china that has been handed down and you use for special occasions. You know what this is a special occasion. Pull it out. Use it and yeah a bath. You had a great idea earlier. You're talking about a cleanup can be time to you know everyone pitches in and you make the clean up a family project. You know one person jason is washing. One person is rent. Say one person is drying. One person is putting items away. You know it doesn't have to be just one person. Stuck in the kitchen with this big pile of dirty dishes is and they're frustrated or you. Just wish you tossed everything <hes> just make it continued family time and <hes> how blessed trash at the end of the day hey be proud of what you're doing for the earth by using materials that you already have glass plates silver cutlery rather than going out spending money that you could repurpose in a gift tossing more attraction to the environment ya i love it and actual real napkins are so good <hes> my mom started using cloth napkins probably ten years ago and i remember as a kid. That's such a weird thing <music> at sort of foreign like why am i is this the tablecloth what am i doing but now it's just such a fun thing to like go to her house and help her set the table wolfer big fancy meal and pick out matching napkins and put out the nice silverware so it i think like beth said it becomes more family time it does and you can decorate those with using evergreens to like do the napkin holder with global pinecone so i do want to get into presence because our listeners may not know but we are in the presence of some super crafters who don't too much or it no. I'm not no. I'm not so when when a really simple way to make some presence sustainable is just doing some handmade things so i wanna hear from sophie in tori 'cause you guys are like super ed when it comes to this. Do you want to start. Do you want me to start i can you can go ahead. I feel like you've had more of a wide variety of the things you've made especially just more flighty. I can't stick with. I have to have a variety. You do finish them. It's called creativity buried. That was very kind of you to say that. I finish them <hes> so i come from a really crafty family. My mom is a big crafter her my grandmother's on both sides our big crafters and it has become kind of a way for me to continue that i think i i really love the continuity of it and i loved it something that we can connect over my nanna did embroidery the and she's passed away since then but doing embroidery now is just that sort of this special connection that i feel with her that i'm doing something that she you did as a gift for me. I have beautiful pillowcases that she embroidered for me. <hes> when i was a little girl like way before i could appreciate that and she just set them aside and had my name on them so that when i grew up and got married she just passed those on so that's super special and i don't think any of the things that i have done are that special yet but that's kind of the goal and so i love i love handcrafts of almost any kind. I'm not an expert. I think it's just kind of fun to experiment but i've been doing embroidery for awhile now. I'm also knitting and this christmas. I am spoiler alert to all of my family and friends. Please don't listen to this yet. They are probably going to get some handmade wash cloths <music> along with whatever else ends up in their stockings this year. I love it 'cause i'm using a one hundred percent cotton yarn which is such a perfect tie into tennessee agriculture. It's really easy to net with. It's really fun and quick and easy. You can see the progress. You're making gang. I can make a wash cloth probably two and a half hours of like working time. I took it with me on a plane trip over the thanksgiving holidays and it's is also just a really fun bonding experience with people when you're out in public knitting. You get some weird looks. I guess especially like at my age. I get a a couple of weird looks but then you also get older ladies coming over and be like oh. I wanna see what you're doing. You know look at this. Look at what this lady is doing to their. You know toddler. Children dude. Dude knitting is cool again. It's it's very hip. I feel like the great thing is also that it's it's not as gendered as it used to be so so it's something that like i have a lot of friends whose husbands also do handcrafts with them my husband we were in the plane and i was knitting and he was like can i can. I take a turn like can i do a couple rows like yeah. Of course you can not going to discourage creativity in anybody. I love it l. o. The connection to former generations and the resurgent of some of these crafts that otherwise we're probably just gonna go by the wayside and they're really important skills and uh-huh yeah we can buy at the store but it's gonna be synthetic fabrics. It's going to be bringing more plastics into environment and it's going to be <hes>. It's it's so much nicer when it's made to all right tori oh man <hes> so i do some embroidery i am not as patient as i should be for that that's kind of off and on but i do knit and i recently just started crocheting the jury still out on on that one. I'm still practicing but i yeah i agree with a lot of what sophie said about it being like connection like i also come by hi it honestly my grandma taught me how when i was really young <hes> i just grew up going up to her house and her teaching me how to do all kinds of different things things and seeing all the things she's made. She's way more talented than i am. She did everything from like stained glass to leatherwork to wood-burning. I don't know that's the goal some days to be that good at that many things you'll get there. I appreciate that there is a lot the justice support group. I'm okay with that. It is it is yeah. Keep going oneal only i. I was just gonna say this christmas. My main thing i'm gonna be doing is knitting and crocheting things for friends and family and yet it is. He's a really good way to like. Make something that and made and made with love it that does sound cheesy but i really believe that like if you make something for someone like the spirit that you you put into it really does matter talk about talk about the one that the project that you and i have been talking about that you were trying to find the perfect yarn for four. Oh okay is that such a good example of the importance of using natural fibres for a specific purpose and also holiday gift giving yeah <hes> <hes> so i am currently spoiler but not really working on a baby blanket for some friends and so if he was helping me search search for the exact perfect yarn she was very patient because i was being really really picky but i was trying really hard. I bought a bunch of really beautiful super wash wool yarn and which is nice 'cause it's washable and it's really really soft and it's something that's going to hold up and feel really nice and lake. Just the color of the fiber is is really really beautiful but i was trying to find a really specific color palette and that's my favorite part of something is getting all the pieces together so that's a product. I'm really excited about right now and then i just have so much yarn and so many people to give gifts to oh. I think i do a lot of accessories. Normally like hat's net up really fast and there's so much variety within that that i can make something that's in a style that whoever making afford will actually want and i've made a lot of scarves for my attorney cold-blooded family members blooded is the mean word okay definitely mentally in the lizard people know what is that i moles souls natured cold nature yeah thank you. I've made a lot of worm accessories for my cold natured family members that they still use which is really nice and i don't know especially this time of year win. It's getting colder and all i really wanted to do was curl up and watch something on t._v. We it's so nice to have something to do to show for all that time. <hes> where i feel like my time is being spent. Well and i can still enjoy a t._v. Show just just spending time with cocoa and a blanket and cheesy netflix holiday show so i'm definitely watching the new <hes> what is set holiday prince the christmas paris france. I was just gonna say if we're allowed to say names of things. I cannot wait to watch the christmas friends. I made episode with my sister awful but amazing at the same time yeah. It's a real love story. I feel it. I really do yeah and so for those of us that are not as skilled there are also options that aren't <hes> quite so intense and i can attest that family members are very forgiving and appreciate the heart behind it even when you attempt to so so <hes> aprons and you cannot so and they are awful. It is so nice though lake i like making cyber the people but it is so nice to be on the receiving and two. I think the main thing is not to put too much pressure on it. You know like don't make your boyfriend to slaughter everyone who nets knows but if you make something for someone with love and it's something that you at least have a pretty good guess that the like they're going to feel loved however however much use they get out of it and if all else fails go to the kitchen bake some cookies i will say my grandfather grandfather and uncle in particular like the hardest people to buy gifts for they have everything they need and there's not anything they want but i can bake a huge batch of chocolate chip cookies with walnuts put in a tin bring it down to to their house on christmas and that is what they are happy to receive and they will disappear crazy fast. Oh yeah my mom makes some amazing holiday fudge and i've kind of adopted that for some easy gifts and yet another thing about stuff like that to is instead of going out and trying to buy them some weird shot in the dark cheap thing in the closet yeah like that's actually something they're going to use and it's something that means something even if it's a short term gift like fudge cookies views which if you give them to me it will be very short term gift because mmediately so one thing. My family is doing this year and we've done it in the past. I i really like it is. We're not doing gift exchange where you get every single person your family a gift. We're kind of doing the secret santa where yeah that's it's what we do to cousin gift exchange so yeah you you you're able to focus on one gift and really make it meaningful and this year i found something that's it's made it even easier. Elster dot com makes the name draw super simple. Everyone signs up either. You can use <hes> you can send it via text or email they sign up and the manager can make sure that couples don't pick each other and then you he can punt gift ideas on it. I love that it's brilliant. I love it so i. I think that helps a lot because is you're not getting this many things because i'm an adult i can provide for myself. There's very few things at this point that i really really want and honestly asleep there kind of at the level that someone buying a twenty dollar gift. They're not gonna be able to get that for me. I'm talking. I want the record player. That's gonna be like ninety bucks which i got for myself and how some amazing record slender who's gonna save vinyl is another one of those things. That's made a real comeback. It's so welcome. I love it. I agree and then you're just it's your buying all these old records that would otherwise be in the landfill and they're just gold or inheriting all records grandparents have several hundred albums that will have to via among the grandkids some day and whoever or has the record players probably going to have them all yeah. My grandpa gave me a lot of his old record records last christmas <hes> including some of his favorite right ones that like he'd been listening to since the sixties like ones that he'd put onto lake dance with my mom when she was a baby and like now those are some of my favorite yet we're essentially little old grandma sitting here twenty bodies but also i think what we just touched on was re. Gifting is not actually an unforgivable sin. If it's something that you especially like a familial thing where there's something that's treasured that then is passed on that can be a really really special personal gift or even non familial. I've gotten gifts in the past that you know. I already have this item but i'm sure someone would really appreciate it and a stash in a closet and keep it kind of in the forefront like who in my life. Do i need to bless or you know win. Might there be an opportunity ready for me to pass this on like appreciated the blessing but i need to to pass it on so just kind of sticking those items somewhere yeah it can work. I did that with an extra knife set from a wedding gift. I was gonna say there. Were things that my husband and i got married four years ago five. You're uh-huh enough yet close enough but there were definitely things that we got duplicates of and i just kept them because i knew do that. There would be like a family member or a friend or you know an occasion where those could be passed on and really used unappreciated. She aided him yeah definitely and so one thing i've really. I've got a bunch of nieces and nephews now. I'm gotten to that stage of life. <hes> and i'm very weird that i will not buy my nieces and nephews plastic toys unless it's something they absolutely want and then i cave i've really gone out of my way to try and and find <hes> toys that are made with wood or other natural things and so <hes> good go to is melissa and doug doug target. I it's big you know big box store but still they have those and there are so much nicer honestly up so well do and you can also find old toys that are are like cami downs or things like that and and yeah it's it's just so much better. Are you can make a holiday tradition of doing like book. <hes> gifts or you could do <hes> fruit and nut mixes is for you know kids out towards turkey all kinds of snacky things. You know like those kinds of things work for kids too. I was gonna say so. I also have uh-huh bunch of nieces and nephews which is so great <hes> particularly back in exactly i love them so much and then they can go home but one of the things that we've tried to do is to give experiences rather than physical gifts so like take them to the zoo to take them to dollywood. Take them to the science museum something like that where it's spending more time like we're actually getting to build that relationship you. You know a little bit selfishly but it's also something that they get to experience in the can be something exciting. A new one of my favorite gifts was my aunt i ant bought my mom and i- tickets to go see the christmas spectacular with rockets amazing and it's something you'd buy i for yourself but it was something we all got to go and do together and i remember that kind of along those lines if you're looking out ways to do kind kind of sustainable gifts is <hes> exit service. You know you can make a coupon book for a family member. You know maybe grandparent or a parent or sibling. Go out. Come in regularly for you next fall or this coupon valid for one you know trip to the grocery store where you just hand me a list based on things like that but rub coupons both of my sisters <hes> i. This is kind of a spin spin. It's not a coupon book but i took a deck of cards and i did the fifty two reasons i love you and you know just hole punch them and took some paper was probably going to toss and you know pasted a little square on each one and wrote on the square like i love you because you're thoughtful. Aw i love you because you're smart you know all these different things and i don't know it. It's one of their favorite gifts that i've ever given them and kep adecco cards that was probably going to go in the trash because it was giving to us and turned into a really thoughtful gift. That's awesome all right so now. We have all those amazing gifts some of them. You can't rap but the ones that you do. What are you going to up them with so this is kind of on the handcraft creativity page but my family rather than embroidering or knitting we also and this year i actually asked i enjoy making quilts so big patterns. <hes> i don't like really intricate us teams or pieces that you have to fit together just so to to build a you know a bag or something but i asked her to make me several several bags which is something that she enjoys doing and so now i have actual gift bags made out of cloth and fabric that are beautiful christmas holiday patterns the inside <hes> she embroidered this bag belongs to beth so if it ends up in someone's home on accident they'll know that it needs to come back to me and i'm actually going to put gifts in there in hand <hes> to my family and then not have trash rush from wrapping paper or tape or ribbon just going to be beautiful to sit and eventually and then put in the closet and use again for the next thirty years hopefully really we just reuse all of the bags which is the easy cheap way well not cheap because you'd have to buy the bags but for those of us that camp so that when they try to make a quilt and ends up looking like a jackson pollock painting or something really beautiful in a way yeah. My niece used it but it wasn't <hes> pity one thing i did for <hes>. This was the first christmas that i was married and i was a little nervous going to see all the brand new in laws. I have a thing against christmas paper. I hate the fact is just so wasteful and also i'm too cheap to spend money on it. So i just got a bunch of old newspapers and i wrapped all of my presence. In old newspapers. I used the main section for all of the adults who was like a classy see black and white and pulled out all of the cartoons and the ads for all the kids and so it was super colorful and if you make little strips of paper paper and use a needle and thread and you fold them you can make your own bows and they're so simple okay. You need to teach me how to do that. Same literally it's like maybe like an inch and a half thick and probably like four inches long strips of paper you just cut him and then you literally fold them in on itself and right in that middle you put <hes> the needle through and then you start building on itself and its that's how they <unk> build the bows that they put on the gift wraps. It's so simple and it's free and recyclable an recyclable. Yeah i also really like using twine or jute string or baker's twine cotton thread string stuff doff to wrap like brown paper packages wrapped up in string is a big thing for me like it's an as fetig that that i just love and using recyclable paper using twine or string that i may have leftover from another crafting project is super easy a sprig of evergreen bergreen an little pinecone and everything you can think about is <hes> finding holiday cards that are printed on recycled paper and <hes> different types of ink that are better for the environment you can also if you are gonna do more traditional either wrapping paper berthier gifts or <hes> round paper with string sophie as you can actually use holiday cards from previous years and cut them into squares in hope pinch them to be your tax for your bags to put the two in front label on i did that with recycled paper and then yet you tie them with assad the twine onto it and it's just cute it is and people enjoy it because it's unique going back to best point. I think that ties in what we were talking about earlier about just being a little bit more intentional with spending our money. If you know that for whatever reason you can't do the cloth bags and you are going to be using disposable stuff spend a little more and get stuff. That's made from recycled materials or that is able to be recycled after you're done with generally those products feel nice sir too so even they are disposal. They have back and that extra quality. You've of niceness that is going to make your holiday facilities. I had when holiday tradition that my mom did and i love and it kind of falls more back under decorations but i forgot to mention it some going to mention it. Now and these are ornaments. They're called cinnamon ornaments. Do you guys have you ever seen those. They're they're homemade and it's just applesauce kind of equal parts cinnamon apple sauce with a little bit more cinnamon and a little bit of like a tablespoon been cloves to make dough and then you use your <hes> holiday cookie cutters to cut out different shapes so when you're sick of all all of the holiday food but you still want to have something fun and festive to do you can make these and then you bake them on like a really low setting for a couple of hours or just leave them in the air and let them dry out for a couple of days. Make sure you punch a little hole before that so you've got a place for string and you have these adorable cinnamon ornaments that smell amazing and they last for a couple of years. They're pretty fragile but if you take care of them like you do maybe more fragile ornaments. They'll get a little bit more stale over the years so they won't have that fresh cinnamon but they're wonderful. That's such a cool idea to for like a family anything to do. After the holiday no opening of prison sir cleaning up dinner in your house smells amazing another way to make your house smell amazing is to do like big pots of cider or hot chocolate or even. If you don't necessarily want something to drink you can do a big aac pa of a couple of different ingredients to make your home smell really nicely christmas like he can do two halves of an orange to cinnamon steaks and some cranberries agrees and just put it in big par on a really low setting and then your house really quickly as much like christmas we have some mulling spices just with some apple cider cider and you just let it low boil and it is so good and the the great thing if you are doing a cider hot chocolate in that big batches that you don't have all of those little packets going into the trash and if he can you know use your holiday mugs and you know pretend that you're next to a warm born cozy fire. If you don't have a fireplace in your home just a beautiful picture turn on your record player but some vinyl live. I like your your knitting needles. Yeah i love it <hes> but yeah and so i actually found some mulling spices that are the whole cloves the whole sticks of cinnamon and so you actually really dry them out after you use them and you can reuse them. Oh i love yeah so as long as it takes a little bit of creativity and a little extra time to find these things but once you make the effort once it's kinda done for a little while oh one last thing if you are at the end of the season and you've already put your tree out and check with your local resources as far as how you can have your tree tree cycled also check with your local resources knoxville has a program that you can take old and unused christmas lights drop them off at specific locations and the recycle them for you and in knoxville. At least it's helping provide jobs for adults with disabilities. That's awesome so communities have programs out there that are really really trying to help. People be a bit more sustainable because this is really. It's a season of giving in a season of access but it doesn't have to be a season of excess waste aced. It has been historically but i think everyone makes just a few small simple changes. We can bring some more love and we can bring just a little little bit less waste so thank you guys so much really enjoyed this. Thank you for having us for t._m. Magic moments. I'm lauren going back and as always there's no magic without.

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Ep. 64 Finding Favor & Focus in 2020

Kingdom Family Talks Podcast

26:30 min | 1 year ago

Ep. 64 Finding Favor & Focus in 2020

"Welcome to kingdom family talks the podcast of Leith Hetland Global Mission Awareness Thank you for joining this episode of Our podcast. Emily Edwards the communications coordinator here Global Mission Awareness. And I'm so excited to be sitting here this morning with life. Welcome life good morning to you yesterday. We were having a conversation about this New Year. Twenty twenty and you're sharing. What you felt was saying this year? I walked away with so many gold nuggets that I would love to dig into that for this episode of the podcast for our listeners. Snares you had mentioned that twenty twenty is going to be a year of all in and with that comes clear vision and focus. So let's start there. What does it mean to be all how in? Well I do believe that the best way I can describe is if you see like a big offering basket and to be able to step in place yourself into that offering basket so that your life is all in so I just present myself as a living sacrifice which is just my reasonable service. I don't have one leg outside of one leg inside when I'm all in it's it's a life of total surrender one. You're totally surrendered. There's also place of exchange change so and that moment anything that is true of him becomes to review and it is that oneness that you have together with him so I think it is so beautiful. I opponent. What was happening thought that a lot? Sadder Focus Focus Year twenty twenty. It's going to be the focus. And he gave me a picture of a camera that it was on the the dust and dirt under lens but he's focus and helping all of us have super sharp vision and his season. How is he got? How we this yourself how how is your future? There's going to be a new focus. I don't focus. There is also new favor. This favor is would God and the favor is with men and there is a lot of people out there and I know some people. They have an incredible favor with God. They can go into secret place and they can just be with God and God is smiling smiling up on him he and then they just have favor. But I don't know what to do with that favor. Interest in regard to living it out loud living love out live so that favor for is not what men some men are not aware of it and then I know other people while gotta just blessed them with this incredible favor with men. But they don't know how to be able to steward to favor ever to have with God and I felt that this in the same way as Jesus grew in wisdom and stature some wisdom Keith growing in favor with God and favor with men South for me personally speaking was just that there's been a season. You kind of wondering should I do should I do. Should I go or should I not and I just felt the Holy Spirit all in and when you all lind because we know that God is always all in Jesus all in Jesus endured decrease endured suffering because of the joy that was set before him Jesus was all in and the Holy Spirit in is all in so it is so important. I think for some of us that there's something that we holding back. It is to let go so that we can let God let go and let got lets you lay down. Whenever is that? We're carrying being specific from past. That could be maybe guilt from the past shameful today or fear for tomorrow. Let's laid down and let us live for every day. So this has been part of the process for this year from me is just on them. I'm looking at my Lens. Are Making sure to focus my land. Some getting rid of anti dust particle every picture will be affected by whatever is under lent says cleaning the Lens. That's been very important. Medical blessed are the pure in heart. They've going to see God. So what D- what was hot issues so like for those of us who are like okay. I said yes. I WANNA be all in this year for twenty twenty and like like you mentioned the lenses. Sometimes we think we're seeing things really clearly and we've got a little smudge on our glasses or are Lindsay's. Hey what are some practical things we can do to clean our lenses off. Twenty twenty two to get that clear. Focus like how can we practically get clear focus. There are several different things. I remember story. I was in Africa quite a few years back. And this is back in the old days for us all folks and I'm saying that kind of with a smile on my face because this was back in the days when you had film and a little younger pamphlet wondering what film this but it was where after I'd taken could some pictures and I didn't realize there was something on the Lens until eventually I came home and I went to Walmart. You had to open up your winder fill and then you Putin in a bag filled all information and a week later wild here is all the pictures but because I had this spot there that can be a hidden spot that can be but that spot now destroyed every single picture and it was some beautiful pictures but none of those teachers would be able to display. Its beauty beauty mainly because it was a spot on the lance so I think that even for people in life there is hidden spots and then I think it's very good also to all and listen to some of the people. It's like the one at a time when I had a car accident. I just couldn't see that car because my mirror didn't pay co pay was ended up blindspot that hidden spot and to being the weird even in our life and asking even some of the people around what are some of my blind spots but also my hidden spots that are hidden there and it is much better to take that into the light. And that's the important thing has led the light deal with it because off off that pictures will be erased when the light comes in. Pictures is getting developing Dr Cruise in dark places and a beautiful part here as the same when the light comes in at a racist about pitchers and I just feel that it is a cease. Now take an inventory. Honest stuff that we carry with us from this year taking our lengths and I will leave and take me cameron looked at Atlanta Cleveland. But first of all asking the Holy Spirit Holy Spirit. Even the way that I'm seeing God right now in deceased listen to I see his goodness to see his kindness his love when I'm looking at his face. It reflected how I see myself and then that would reflect our see everything else and of course as wrote a whole book about that Scene Evans is that has all to do with the different view or perspective of focus in regard to how we see got and how we see him this house and it affects every area of our life so we do want everybody to have a twenty twenty vision. And I didn't even know that I didn't have a twenty twenty vision. I I didn't even know that I struggled. I haven't reading glasses sitting on his desk so when I turned fifty I was just joking with one of my friends. Because he's started aware reading glasses and then and a few weeks later started to take and hold by but further further apart and it took me a whole year. And that's too stubborn as of the year before I started to use reading glasses open because I did not want to acknowledge that I didn't have twenty twenty vision and I needed some help so I can see well and some of us. We just need to get some new glasses take off the glasses and perhaps just our vision so that we will see things with the eyes of love see things we is of. Jesus see things from heaven. Serve you because then when you look at people you do not see the trash to treasure. Then when you're looking at circumstances you don't see big alliances but how big God is is a different way of living living and loving. I love that and one of the things that I like to do practically It's like a a self checkup and I loved as ask questions chance to the Holy Spirit and are there any lies. I'm believing about you. Jesus are there any lies. I'm believing about you. Holy Spirit. Are there any lies. What was the truce or or in a situation and finally? That's the same as you were talking about like asking people just having up real an open open conversation with God and finding out like how I didn't even really know carrying this lie it so like sometimes we don't even know that we have the smudge on there. We think that are glasses are really really clear. But then when we take them off in examine the glasses there's actually a little smudge on it but he's in sometimes we think that's reality and it's not so I think that And you know getting the clear focus is absolutely essential to twenty twenty. The next thing that you said was talking about favorite and I love that you brought up description luke. Two fifty two where it says that Jesus grew in stature in wisdom and favor. We've got men and I was reading this morning and actually is interesting because they're actually says it multiple times in the same chapter. Jesus the Son of God had to grow in stature. You're in favor with God and man. Can you talk about that. Because that that's fascinating. Even another topic connected would be so fascinating for me because suggests was perfect. He never sent so should he have to have any growth when you have perfection when you have an a plus do you need to grow. And even there to see him at at the age of twelve he could have started revival and he is indicated for and Mama. Papa did not know or recognize. As they had moved away. He was still in the temple. Doing doing the father's business they had to come back again and Christ means the anointed now back again to find him and for the next eighteen years eighteen years he he is there as a son a merry Joseph and he is growing and he's growing into maturity and I believe it is a beautiful picture for us in regard to even there could he have died on the cross. What seventeen could he have data? Why at the age because of the time this is also recognizing this maturity now both in regard to the favor with God a favor would man so the time and at the age of thirty three where he died was buried and was resurrected but also where we died with him where we were buried with him? We were CO resurrected and now we get to live in him and with him for him through him so I think it's fascinating that we can being India's growing process and the way it is for meters season right now I've been growing rolling a lot in my favor with men and was this season. That was going a lot in my favorite. We got some times that is more of a rhythm and before you know it somebody tests that you going in is just invitation for you to have upgrades in regard to favor. And that's why it's important to learning just less than how to Stewart favor ever like some people say. Why don't you just call up this Imam? Or why don't you do this. What because it costs favor? And I don't want to use favor our to invest favor favor favour often. Operators like my pocket is four. Maybe a twenty dollar bills fifty dollar hundred say if I had that in my pocket now what was happening if I use or can solve so do the forward to my book that if I continue to ask for favor of people that I have a measure is your favor soon. It would be empty and I don't have any favorite left but what I do. I honor people by adding value. Ms Results favor. David Gross. So I use that as an example practicality so I believe that also were gods spending time with him. The fear of the Lord is beginning wisdom and knowing the holy one is understanding getting to know him and knowing his ways and knowing his works and the way he thinks everything held that releases favor with him. Because you get re-present him and then data against starts to move outward where we're getting favor with men do wisdom are now now taken a favor we have with God and sometimes that looks like power sometimes. It looks like love sometimes. It looks like wisdom and that's where the wisdom is Cannata key to bringing these three together in oneness so this is part of prayer for everyone is that they're going to have an upgrade in wisdom and it is not always assist right over wrong or should I do. Should I not do this but what I do is when I'm leaning back in favour than I'm asking wisdom wisdom based on my past experiences based up on the season where I'm at right now. In life they start my future. Hope and dream now the very decision I make now. Is this a wise thing to be the right thing to do. But not vice and whistle. Put all of that into consideration sedation coming in with a clarity. I such a focus so that you can be all in that Web. Would you say it's A. It's a practical way that we can grow in favor And what what is the difference between favor with God and favor ever with man like knowing how to use that we see clear except I think one of my favorite story from the Bible has been for many years about favor that would be an example. It it is a story about Jonathan and we talked about Jonathan David into relationship. They had later own. When Jonathan Died Saul died King Saul who was Jonathan's father when he died David was just reflecting? Because what has happened if you start to see what Jonathan had done for David. David wouldn't have been king if not for Jonathan. Jonathan was willing to give up his own position John and relationship with his father to be there for his friend. So when you start to see first of all these things that happen that David received favor would God and man because he had a Jonathan and his life if he hadn't had that Jonathan that relationship it was a covenant of friendship that they had and as a result of that now when they they were dead David had grown such favor with God but also favorable so now he's looking at his palace and he's seeing this extreme. I three wealth than everything that got US started. The kingdom had now become ten times bigger than it used to be and he's reflecting and then he starts to think about the only reason it is a part of the favor the honor the roots and he says this in Second Samuel nine if it was not for my friend Jonathan on this my buddy and I just want to show favor to anyone related to him and then he asked Z.. Z. Pitch of Holy Holy Spirit. Come see if you can find anyone related that are still left after saw and Jonathan. so that I showed him kindness for Jonathan Sake. So now you notice story initiate. He's an unloaded he's paralysed. He has been running away from from this king. He's living in poverty and broken slowed. Bog means the baron place when nothing grow. The limousines are showing up there because they found favor and in a moment you can see how bring him and he comes to the king's palace spin afraid of this king that he didn't know he didn't realize that it was his favourite. There was about to come and and then king says hey I want to restore all the land. His brother excuse me his father. Jonathan and his grandfather salt give back all of the lab with all the survey. Give all of that. So that was one of their favorite then is now. I want to come and sit down at the kings table and the Bible says that daily really. He sat at the king's table face to face with a king was not just rest story. And that's one part of restoring an ear with the enemy has taken from you. The second I think the favored us as brings you before kings people that are royalty and dead because you not starts to see yourself away the king sees royalty and you get get face to face with royalty and you get to have communion you get to eat you get to fellowship. I'm going in two weeks. I'M GONNA be at a top Muslim leader in Pakistan from the the granny mom in Moscow. I'm going to be at the wedding. As one of the chief honor guests at the wedding of his older son who will probably be the one taking over the the Kings mosque in the future. I'm going to go be there to Shia Muslim headquarters. So it's the same kind of a thing is that you've got this favor with God. Hey I'll goddess entrust favor with man you find a place at the table and then you know where you're supposed to sit at the table that's wisdom so that you do not take the front part of the table but but you may be sitting in the end and king will come to granny mom will come and say come up here so no. You're supposed to sit here. According to the measure favor you have has to do would wisdom is. I would rather start under the table because somebody that is more important with more favourite can come and at that moment I found my place and then sticking the king himself here in this story granny mom he will come as my ambassador. Love of what you did come up here and I want you to sit here royalty and it is an overwhelming thing when you have not favor and how to steward at favourite and to know the protocol of that setting and this is going on a regular basis for me and this is what I want. People people to learn that could be with mayors of cities it can be with the school system it can be somebody dissonant classroom would a schoolteacher. What it could be somebody just getting promotion at work? We have a the whole group all our sons and daughters this just getting these extreme pay raises and it does make sense and logic because the company does it every six months but now they got four four pay raises in six months now. But it's just this incredible favor that has taken place. I think that what you said was kids learning how to sewer that favor and knowing when and to use the term when not too well the last the last thing that you mentioned was freedom and I love the statements. One of my favorite statements free people free people. What areas do you feel? God bringing freedom this year. Well I do believe that the freedom from fear that has been I think for all of us so many different things that would produce fear and so we know the where the spirit of the Lord is. There is liberty and freedom. It says I have not giving you a speared of fear that power love and Assan mine. That's what wisdom comes from sound mine. So he has not given us a spirit of fear that fear fear means false evidence appearing real and the people that are listening need to know odors even scientifically speaking ninety five percent of what you fear will never happen that scientifically speaking. So why do we trust in fear when perfect love never fails. So why don't we but what happens is we. We're moving away from love because we feel we feel that love haled's US and then we go back to fear a perfect love. CAST OUT FEAR so the safety here too is to say yes and be totally in would love and his perfect love focused to bide his. I love his lover by the new because when the love is there and you're one would love then. There is no fear because perfect love takes away fear the other one. Is this shame and I see there is. The enemy is using shame so then we starts to cover off and then we finding faults and other people he did cheated just that we saw the gardening and God wants to set his people free from shame. And there's this beautiful story of David Psalm. Thirty four verse. Four and five were David. David says I sought the Lord. He he was looking up and he was seen the phase of the Lord and when he saw that he was delivered from fear and then he went from David's breakthrough he said and then he says a deer faces became gradients and there was no shame to be found. If you said something yesterday that I'm just really struck me and you you made this statement. Vulnerability is the biggest weapon against shame and that instantly made me think of I've Lou Engle last year at the one thing conference when he was He came out and was sharing that he had mm-hmm and been struggling with pornography. And have what I saw happen in the church was just amazing. How much which freedom that brought? What's what do you think about that? Circumstance site Digit did it. Cause you to lose respect for him when somebody came out and was so vulnerable double on a platform. Or what do you think about that. I do think that what Ludwig Lud- It was very very brave. Arabe thing volubility is a brave thing right. Because what's happening is he certainly stepped into the light. Would it thinks that he had had in darkness. KNESS desperate shamed us. So there's an element where the enemy blackmails you. Because some of those things when he went public widow and subtleties and it did two things one of them. There was a freedom for him right now nobody can get him. So enemy doesn't have voiced their now to use shame name because suddenly shame used to be shame on you but no shame off you. Acid shame was taken off. Shamo few bet the second was the testimony also release for a lot of the other people out there have have hidden sin so hidden darkness and everything else it just released then to also stepping into vulnerability ability with no fear for the punitive element of it but realizing now there is freedom so when you have a great leader that that does that one person told me about the because he heard about pastor had fallen and he said what what do you think about the respect for the pastor and I say this pastor for three ears had been having an affair with somebody else into Church and Ian Ninety was off braided. All of your trusted it. The now this pastor is confessing confessing and renouncing and has become free. You have less trust ask. Do you have more trust for somebody is up there the anointing but there's all these hidden darkness us or do you have more trust in somebody that is actually be vulnerable. That is actually share. That has been set free. Which one do I trust the most IRA? I'd rather trust a free person and free. Persons sets people free. This is one of the things that God wants his for his Samson daughters to be free. And that's what Jesus came name was whom the sunset free is free in deed. And that's what he comes to set us free and what does freedom looked like in every area are you of life and this is so much harder father because when we are becoming free we can also have the honor of joining him by setting people free and went to serpent bit. Bit knows is where we have the greatest authorities. Well whereabout out of time for today but I want to just recap for us to be all in twenty twenty we. We need to have a clear focus to walk in favor and to carry freedom not just for ourselves for that for the people around this in life. I wanted to you too close with just releasing the presence over the listeners and just declaring freedom over them. I wanted to ask anyone. That is out there. If you're looking at your lens just imagine you have. A camera is to anything there on that Lens. That is affecting two way your you are see such as when you take a moment and thinking about that. If you're looking at your past is there still areas of guilt that you carry it comes stop begin again and again or perhaps when you look in the Mirror on a daily basis. There's that hidden voice. Shame that is just trying to blackmail you or perhaps you're looking into the future and you can sense this restlessness and you feel fear is creeping in as you're looking at the future. I just wanted to release. He's over you if that is you. I just bless you with freedom. A bless you as you look in the mirror knowing that Jesus carry any took all guilt. Jesus on the Cross took all shame said you experiencing his glory. Jesus on the Cross he paid for a four four freedom for you thank you that you can trust him. Not just that you know that he loves you but he trust you and that you'll go to move into into twenty twenty would at twenty twenty vision with such a focus and clarity with such favor with such a freedom and it's going to be daily thing to check your lense. It's just take that lense and for every picture you take. That can pictures at pizza on your health condition to pitch about finance. Just making sure that you check your lens before you sue and try to find that picture because there are some true pitchers and that's going to happen and you're gonNA receive the truth. Pitcher your healed. That's a true picture. You are free. That is the true picture. You are strong. That's a tree pitcher. There is rest. That's a tweet pictures. Final Resting Place. Get Your Lens. Insist clear and just say yes. I am all in three hundred sixty five days. I am all in annual and you will free there in Jesus name Amen Amen Amen Thank you for listening to this. Episode of Kingdom family talks. We would love to join us And our next this podcast because we're going to continue this conversation about twenty twenty we want you to be able to see say and cease what God has free and this year saint join us

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Declaring Gods Promises For Your Life

Kingdom Family Talks Podcast

26:27 min | 1 year ago

Declaring Gods Promises For Your Life

"Welcome to kingdom family. Talks the PODCAST OF HEDLUND and global mission awareness Thank you for joining this episode of Our podcast. Emily Edwards the communications coordinator here Global Mission Awareness. And I'm so excited to be sitting here this morning with life. Welcome life you thank you. Thank you on our last podcasts. You're dropping some incredible wisdom boom an inside about twenty twenty and and how we can be all in people full of focus full of favor in full freedom and so on this podcast wanted to continue. That conversation shifted a little bit. I often hear you used the phrase see it say it and cease it and I would love to dig into that. And how that pertains to the promises and destiny's over your life so I let what does that mean see it. Some of you may be no that one of my favorite every books that are just going to give this as a free advertisement for anyone. If you have not seen through heaven's eyes I believe it is going to be one of those books that can help you and if you have read before read it again but it was simple basic icon afford them national way of looking so so I've had three D. glasses but what if you have four D. glasses and it start with me sing on the airplane as I sat on the plane looked at USA Today and is said to four kinds of God in America and I it just hit me and I never realized that twenty nine percent of American one view God they see Messenger Thought of God and other twenty two percent seem benevolent. God twenty one percent season critical God and then twenty four percents discount Easton got so if you put it out to get over. Ninety percent of American has view of a gardener does not look like Jesus that will affect the way. I see God the way I see. God is come to affect how I see myself because I don't see the world the way it is. I see the world the way I am so I'm just saying that. In regard to the Lens insys seeing his face every problem we have here on earth. You find out in the face of God and what God wants us by so blessed Oughta pure earnhardt because they are going to see God. God wants us to be able to see him but to do that. We need to be aware that could be natural father images it can be spiritual fathers different things that has done something with lenses so that when we look at God we do not see Jesus we do not see the face of Jesus when you looking into his eyes if he is kind of authoritative tatum. Guess what's GonNa be manifested that you will often have some anger issue yourself and it's constantly these tensions going on on the inside if you do not have a God. That is in a good mood but he is in a mood. Swing then would always be there to try to please him. So that's why it's so important for us to see it see see clearly including in life. I mean you can have two different circumstances and one person would see that the glass half empty half full so the circumstances dance has. It is not what happens to you that matters. It is how you respond to it. That matters so there is so important for me this year that I'm going to see things the way God sees thing that I'm going to think about things to what he thinks that I'm GonNa feel what he feels. Love what he loves and also say what he says so the starting point is is open up our ice and looking in the face of a loving father then I can look in the mirror and see me the way that he he sees me. Then I have twenty twenty vision of how I see you and I remember friend. He had called a blindness. He came up. Take your shirt is blue and at no it screen but because he was color blind and I know there's some people have tunnel vision. Some people have farsightedness so people have short-sightness so we are not always aware of those issues that we have so you can be sure that you are sure that the caller is that on that on that circumstance until you may be take those glasses and you put the tune glasses the twenty twenty vision and that's always the eyes of love and that's my heart for this year is that we're going to learn how to see into the earned. Love Rams asking for Blake Healy. He sees into the unseen. Realm and part of my assignment is the race of Samsung Daughters. Glory that is going to put on the eyes of love and keep love on and then to see people not the way they are but way they're going to be not three people based upon their history but their destiny. So I'm very very grateful that we or go to have some new glasses all of us this year the way we see God see ourselve- seeing the circumstances around us but also looking into the future because it's so full full of hope and I just wanted to say that God is healing. Hope for twenty twenty. There's a healing of hope that is about to take place and it's going to change your lenses this. Would you say that every solution starts with a face to face encounter. Yes because what I'm beholding I am becoming and then what become is what I release so I can face things here on an early level. That can be addiction or can be broken his home it can be finances but what I'm looking into. His face are starting to see a very face. Oh God seeing how big is being overwhelmed. Whatever overwhelms worms you shapes? You're getting so overwhelmed by him that nothing else can overwhelm me perspective. And how everything else was. I'm looking into his face he's apiece. He's by joy he's my provision. He's by strike. He's my heel when I'm looking at every single thing I need I find the answer in his face. That's what Jesus come to say. I only did what I saw my father do. And I said what I heard. My father say reflected ever phase of the Father Uh when he touched a lepers when he raised the dead when he delivered people and Sediment of freedom and then he said as the father said me. Now I'm going to send you and each one of you re eighty percent the same father full of love full of power and follow wisdom people seated in heavenly places living from heaven to Earth Earth. So then say it. What's what do we need to say? And what do you mean by see it. Then you say it I I. There's Times actually those can be an opposite order. And so there's time you speak something into existed and then it becomes visible what you say right right to speak into the future. God said let there be light. Speak and you start to see what you're saying but here I'm saying now I see certain things I have the is. I'm Saudi now. All these kingdom matters would be settled through declaration. Let's see when God spoke. It continued to happen. Light light continued to expand because God has just one statement. When you speak it starts to work and it starts to expand and it will not stop it as the word of God and I? I liked the picture but the Bible says the spirit was hovering over the earth and then got spoke making sure. It's almost like a hummingbird that just is over. I flower it's the spirit when I call it. The principle is the stirring spirit and spoken word when dispirit stir. Ah speak and declare. God's word so for me is I speak to my mind speak to my ear. I speak to my eyes. Speak to my body prophesied to myself. The first person that should get those seeds and those seeds that you speak to what God is subtlest us to grow going into a soil and it's ugly changes you transform ends for you from the inside out the USA change the atmosphere so what I would encourage just some simple declaration of hair some who I n declaration. I am forgiven. I am forgiven. All My sins forgiven. Before God God will condemn me. I am reconciled. Uh with God I have been reunited with God. I N rescued. I N redeemed I am bought with a price at no belong to God. I am known by God I have chosen. HIGHAM COG IMPURE I'm unholy. I'm justified before God. Im expected I am healed. I'm alive I am free. I loved I taken care of I am I am would destroy of him mistrial me because I am so even if the take about ten of those oh stack. Liberation statement maybe perhaps chronic pain or a long period of time. I N Healed by his stripes. I am healed you on my healer your strength you are my rest you are released back again to you are and then we'll Ramos would say he is yes so the. Im Statement. Because God's as I am and I'm agreeing now when he said as I am so are you I am free. I N he'll. Im Am full of joy. And you say we'll let our field that's not true. I know you're speaking things got so there's thinks that is true now. You don't ignore true but it is knowing the truth that sets. That's your free declare the truth while God says about that and go to change the environment would declaration and it is so easy for us to see what's true instead of recognizing the one that is truth and truth and then next moment declaring truth set you free yes faith. That just sounds a lot like fake to me in an even as you were reading those statements which are so powerful and and for our viewers. I mean for our listeners. I'm actually going to link some of these statements down at the bottom so that you can print them out and read them over yourself because we want you to clearing who God says you are but faith sometimes says something different than our circumstances but just hearing that made me we believe and I love like just on faith and declaring what God has said over you that instantly reminds me of Hebrews eleven eleven which is one of my favorite verses. And it's talking about Sarah's faith allowed her to tap into God's face and and that made her impossible situation become possible and she gave birth to Her promise child and so I think it's it's that listening and you know who you are declaring what God has said over you tapping into that faith tapping into his faith and allowing him to Tim. Bring that face to bring those circumstances in promises which leads us into seizing. It and I assume that that is just receiving what God has promised Thomas for you. How can we partner with God and position ourselves to receive our promises and I think it's also important for people to know because the sadnesses when we've operated they would fight for a long time and has not happened and I felt that would have proverbs? Thirteen twelve hope deferred made a heart sick. But now when you start to design are you again and dream again is the tree of light so there is a healing of hope. The needs to take place in Cuba's heart before they stood declaring the faith so even there before we're finish today. I do sensing what the father wants to do. Is To heal hope back again so you know. I know the future has from the APP. It's good says the Lord is certain turning now recognizing the hope and when hope is their faith would starts talk. Bright in a declaration will start to change the environment. So I'm going to encourage people people here for wildlife had faith it's like hit that same laden. We're GONNA talk by that little bit later on because I'm going to be lifter one of the things. I want to heal hope in people's like I needed me too little healing of hope and even burning man got me a new of joy experiencing who can join back again. The child lightness back again. The innocence back again. So there's some of those things that's also happening declaration when hope is being here so with that hope heels that positions us to receive our promises from God. Is there anything else practically that we can do to get ready to seize our promises. Well we talked about. I see it say it. Say it's C- say it cease it. It's almost a song for people who I see it right now. I'm going to say it. Yeah and then I'm going to receive or cease it an stepping into so it's it's important for people because this is very frustrating when we do not understand the timing says an example they could see the promised promised land they were speaking. This is the promised land but now when you're going into occupied at promised land was seven giants there. That was great at Indem. So sometimes what means and we may get frustrated because what God you said that this is what's going to happen now and when I'm stepping in dairy some problems here there are some giants so I just saved for people. The promises promises that he has. There's maybe giants in Atlanta. We have to occupy again rid of some of those giants and one of the things that can be the giants still in us. But that's one another year either. What we do is we confess and renounce any of those things that are giants in our so that when we bought see and say when we're going to go into this place making sure as five one of my friends he was just describing by fishing and and he loved fishing and fishing would net? But he says when the net is dirty deficiencies issue sees it. But he said what we've cleaned a nest. That's what Jesus the first thing he did. He asked him to clean the mess and now there was so much much fish because the dirt did. It's something would have fish that they are able to clean. They went right into it because they couldn't see to net. That was so clean and I think that there is a picture here. For many as we're moving into our promised. Land Orlando Promises. We have to show up but we was at the shore for the right battle and then we need to realize and being clear what this land of promises promises so for some people can be marriage it can be that child it can be a new job and we can sit there but the preparation also for that new job. So there's there's an element Wilson. Our site that goes in is like where the David David Play Harf when nobody was watching so that when God odd giving a nightmare to King Saul guess who he was going to set up the one the practices harp. Sometimes I know the passive element for houses waiting meeting now. Forgotten to what is called Austin. We can call a prayer and he can call it. Disobedient it was up to us. So I'm saying that in a simple way in your life is God's gift to you and to this war but what you do with your life is your gift to God so it's almost like if if you want to give me at piano. That would your gift to me but for me to use step. Yeah no learning how to play piano. That is my gift. Honor Back to you so I do believe that. That's another thing we're GONNA see and this year is many people that because of the focus and clearly you know what. I'm supposed to play way to what I'm not supposed to play. And this is also part of the two things that we need and of course I wrote a book giant slayers that are two things there is secret put into secret. Place worship the lamb aspect going in spend time spent time with him. Just be with him before you focus so much on the assigned nine. Make sure that you are in alignment so that aspect of David us being a worshiper being the president making sure the main thing is to main thing it is one one thing I desired is one thing alone for because wherever I end would his present it is my promise. Lobbying let me say again. I've never said that before when you dear here in his presence and with his presence you are in your promise none and your ceasing. It and then the second Donavan. What are some of the tools that can be financing can be what I'm doing now in Pakistan undoing? It is big Christmas thing all wool religious leader together for big Christmas party to meet the Prince Up. He says the practicality of what I do that when my sling to solve some of those issues. So we're there's this unity coming coming in with unity perhaps financial miracle that we need for certain season there are certain things that have an opportunity to co Labor would him to partner with him so that I can seize my land so I think that first of all what I tell people into giant slayers book. It is a name your name name the area that you're facing so when you have a name there you're gonna find name of God. So when David Says Jehovah Saba would why would he say Jehovah Jehovah Jarrah Jehovah. Gyrus might provider Jehovah Shalom. He's my piece Jehovah Rafa. He's my he'll know David intake is a Jehovah Sabato. And what does that mean. God is my warrior when he declared in new dares there's war and he's facing seniors giant that is occupying the land that he was called to do David Dan Declare and heavenly God my warrior. And at that that moment where you're angels comes in and things start to happen and things is broken into spiritual so David dead could deal with things and natural and there was a sling that he had practice test but he had the first break the spirit over there and he did that when you realize. This is the name for his giant Goliath. I have named for God released. The Name of God Jehovah Saalbach for need financing. Jehovah Joke God is by provider and then practically speaking you step in with your sleep and you've taking your promised trauma slap the land of promises. That's so good. You know over the last several months. We've actually talked a lot in our podcast podcast about inheritance in living generational and I. I think I'd like to close us out without because a lot of times when we are you know taking our land and taking our promised. Land we we. We sometimes forget that they're generations that are after that we really should be taking this land for. It's not just our land. It's the land of the people after essence. And we. You did a podcast recently Remember on Alaska In second kings. Thirteen eight hey where he talks about. He's talking to joash before he died about striking the ground. And I wanted to just recap that really fast because I feel like. That's such a great eight picture of US taking the ground taking our promise in doing it for generations and how you can seize not only your promise. I promise for the next generation I think it is going to be very important for us to think generational that we have a tangible thing about me and Mike calling my promises but what you see like even widow David David went through this whole life of obstacle. David was always is at war so that solemn could establish a piece so he here you have a father to his life went away from Bethlehem to Dolan to Hebron to you rounded during any there was a giant was trying to kill him a beer that tried to kill him. I'm in salt. I to kill him he went he was always at war and eventually he takes what he has no place he got thrown then he takes his inheritance in any get son to get wisdom to stood up very take if dishonored had also the presence not just the principle of his father. This would have gone on to another generation and will never be the same some saying that even in regard it to a lot of the things that I'm doing it we've talked a lot about it by I think to some degree. They introduced a hero when I was in a Filipina and and I don't mind that because because I believe every one of us are superheroes not superstars. Jesus is the only superstar. Gloria are super hero. But I realized that I'm investing coming to rest on my life even to generation. I cannot see racing superhero said. They are stepping in so the four basic things are I want all into notre identity the same identity that Jesus had stays total unshakable to know that you are a beloved son or daughter Father so so the whole identity but then family. I want everyone to find a place at a family table so even as we are dreaming we're onto ourself so. There's things that I needed help you. You're helping me and we do one. Another one can do a thousand to ten. What can this family and family of families? So that's my second area making sure that everybody's connected to family then destiny helping helping each person defining what is your place planet Earth would you can arise and shine his latest com- I wonder how every one of the sons and daughters to step in to their destiny. The uniqueness their special place in history and then the last one is glory to live in such a lifestyle of glory. John Seventy four is my life verse. I have glorify you here on earth and I finished everything that you call me to. My heart is to raise a million sons and daughters will live and love and such a way that people were constantly pointed who their fibers Lori Watson. Finish everything that they will call to do not what they were not too but when they were called to do God's Work God's way with God's power full of love full of power full of wisdom raise these sons and daughters glory so is is this three generational it is ordered. I get to play because somebody else has paid for me to honor the roots so that can be entrusted with the fruit skin but now for other people to honor the prices that we have paid for Lulu. I've done for twenty four years being in a Muslim traveling all over being away from all that other people they can. They don't have to have the same scars that I do if they can honor discarded. We have recognized that. Then you have a whole new generation of this excites Smith has called inheritance. That's dope apportion anointing is. They're so beautiful to thinking about a whole new generation. God is going to raise up and we want to talk. Today's generation. We want that generations dream. Would God so they were wake got were passionate with purpose. Something to live for something to die for something to be all in yes of course. I'm just feel excited again. Saragan well we are out of time for today but it I love to recap what we've got because it's so important for us to see what got a sane over us in declare its antecedents fantasistas promises so that we can all in people full of favor a focus and full of freedom and on our next podcast we will actually. Life is actually GONNA be teaching into removing lids for twenty twenty. So you don't WanNa miss out on this series of just what God is saying for twenty twenty and how you can be equipped to live full so that you can die empty there. Is this very thing that God spoke to me. said it is time for my people do dream again and it is time for people to believe again and it is time for my people to soar again and we're going to talk about the soaring next. I'm so excited. Woke right all right life. Will you just pray for our listeners. Father just I just wanted to honor everyone that is just loving themselves. Investing himself well enough to be able to you. Say yes and all in follow. Just thank you that you're not giving us a spirit of fear project given us a spirit of power love. Love sound mind so even in this assise as your just cleaning Orleans US and helping us to CCC to see what you see and and also say what you say and NC's what you are ceasing we don't want to ask you to bless what we are doing when we get to do what you obsessing. So I'm just going to bless as you bless your eyes sites vision to have board natural and supernatural. I bless your lips and your tongue because there is healing in your tongue life life and death is in Nepal of their tongue. So bless you do very wards. You're going to speak this year is can be life and is can be life changing life-giving because Jesus came to give life and life more abundantly and. That's what you're going to experience and you're going to see sit. His promises are yes a men for you so do not grow weary in well-doing because proper time you will reap to horace when you do not faint. Some blessing you bless your family a blessed your finances finances of bless your health. Shallow Xiaolong safe sound complete hold in every area of life in Jesus name Amen Amen and then thanks for joining us again for this episode of Kingdom family talks. We hope you'll join US next time as we learn to soar again. Aw Aw aw

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Alan Yarborough and Bill Steverson

Future Hindsight

25:43 min | 1 year ago

Alan Yarborough and Bill Steverson

"There's a podcast, I think our listeners would want to know about. It's called seen on radio. The show has received much acclaim for its deep and engaging dives into the history, and the very structure of American society. How can we see society more clearly so he can be more effective in changing it seen on radios to recent documentary series seeing white and men have explored racism and sexism in I opening ways checkout seen on radio? That's S C E N E on radio from the center for documentary studies and PR X, welcome to future. Hindsight. I'm meal at moss. How can civil discourse help us be the best version of our society. That's our question today for guests on future. Hindsight, Alan Yarbrough, and Bill. Stevenson Allen is the communications coordinator, and office manager and the office of government relations of their Piscopo church in Washington. And he's also the co author of the civil discourse five week curriculum a sort of master class on how to communicate as a society, even when disagreeing and treat each other with respect and dignity. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. It's wonderful to be here, Bill. Stevenson is a parishioner and their Piscopo church and signal mountain Tennessee, where he organized. The course uncivil discourse. Thank you for joining us. Hey, thank you could be here. Alan how did the office of government relations come to this idea of rolling out a curriculum on civil discourse within the church? So our office is tasked with. Representing the policy positions of the Piscopo church that come from our governing body, we represent those primarily to the US federal government. We cover a lot of different topics, and don't expect everyone's going to agree on every single issue. But we hope that people sort of get involved in the work at its core. What that means for my particular perspective in the office dealing with what, I'll call her constituent, engagements or individual Capelle aliens will receive feedback from people who don't think we're going far enough or who completely disagree with us and hearing the nature of those conversations, the nature of that feedback that we receive was really hoping to develop a tool that would help people have better conversations than they were having around these particular topics to improve how they understood what another on how they understood the work of our office. Tell us a little bit about the program. How are you teaching it? So the program is designed for really small groups to engage with it or target audience for. For publicizing the program is to formation leaders and parishes, or priests clergy lay leaders who might use this in a small group setting within the church that might be a Sunday forum or an afternoon program. A campus ministry even youth ministries may may use it. And so the package is intended at have handouts and facilitator guides to help people walk through this, and the in a five part series. So Bill, please, tell me, why were you interested in taking this course? Well, several reasons but, but the main one was we live in a small community on a mountain outside of Chattanooga. And what, what I saw, and what a lot of other people saw was over the past couple of years, the, the discourse, the, the civility had had decreased quite a bit. You know, we're like any other small community. We have our fights and we have our disagreements, but never in, in the many years that I've been there have we call each other names have read questioned each other's. Morals. And and we were doing that. It was it was not a pleasant environment. And so one day, I just saw a flier for a conference on civil discourse and and went to it. And it turns out that, that Allen was one of the presenters, and that course I learned about his curriculum. So I came back to signal mountain, and we talked it over and decided to do it. One thing we did differently than than Ford. Allen's. Course was. We made it at a community forum rather than an individual church for them. And I think that worked well for us. Oh, that's really fascinating. Alan, you actually wrote this for the episcopal church. What makes the church community fertile ground for this type of several discourse or a class on it. I like that question. And now I've grew up in the fiscal church in have a little bit of a bias toward it. But I really think the. Episcopal church in particular, but other church communities as well. Are in a unique position to offer something to the broader communities. You know, there's a reason for people to come together. That's not long political boundaries. And so that allows for more interaction between folks who may disagree with each other politically, and then the Piscopo church itself sort of the composition of the denomination closely mirrors the general American public, the composition of the of the church allows for, I think an opportunity for richer, conversation and inviting the community into to that as a part of the church's living out, you know, their particular ministries in their presence, where each individual parishes. So Bill since you actually invited the larger community. How did that work out who came outside of the church, where I, I was scared to death, there wouldn't be many people? But we do this over a period of four weeks. And. Have a exceptionally large turnout for our size of community. There were people from our church, but they were mostly people from outside of our church, and that the public officials all participated, in fact, the last session, we had was mostly a candidates forum that it was a forum own civil discourse, tell us a little bit more about that. The candidates forum, what happened there. This was back in October and early November. And we then election was coming up for all the offices for our town council. There was a proposal to build a big box grocery store up on the mountain half the people wanted it and the other half, didn't, there was also a proposal to separate our school system from the county school system, and that divided the community. And we thought this involved in the candidates in our civil discourse discussion would would. Be helpful. I just ran into the newly elected mayor who participated and all the sessions and he said that, this course helped him to create a monthly open session with the general public and basically, just to discuss items, and he said that we never would have done that had not, we've been pushed by this court. So it did it have a few little results. Sounds like that's a pretty major. I have a question for Alan about the curriculum. What is a way to overcome disagreement in our discourse? I think that it's really helpful to have a diversity of ideas when civil discourse isn't about taking on someone else's perspective as your own is not about giving it particular merit over other positions at simply about trying to understand where the other person is coming from. And the fact of the matter is that when it comes to policy making and building legislation in congress or the state level, or local level. It's not always clear what the right way forward is there can be good elements to different perspectives, different policy proposals. And if we don't have the civil discourse to really understand what those are we're not going to unlock the best of each proposal and won't be moving forward with, with the best product possible. Right. So what you're saying is the key is, is doing the discourse properly. So we can hear each other out and understand each other as opposed to trying to take on other people's positions and convincing ourselves to agree or vice versa. Trying to convince the other person to agree. Absolutely. And I think humility comes. I think through this process, we and others will find, you know, our position shifting and modifying and improving them along the way because we can't know everything there is to know about any issue it's going to take all of us together working on this to fully address it. So Bill in your experience. How successful wasn't in adhering to the tenants and really having a civil discourse. That's not mean. Well, if you'll give me a couple of minutes, I'll share personal story, and I think it has a couple of points not too long ago are coffeemaker broke which is a crisis in middle America. So somebody told me of little mom and pop small appliance repair stored. So I took it there walked in and the owner the middle aged gentleman was standing behind the counter talking to another customer. He was livid and he was almost shouting. I to the other customer, and then he saw me and just started yelling about the NFL football players who had taken a knee rather than stand up for the national anthem. And he was talking about how patriotic that was, and they should be locked up in jail and am my politics are different. And my first reaction was just to walk out, but that wasn't repair my coffee maker. And my second reaction was to tell him where he could shove it and to, to give it to them, as best as he was giving it to me, and then I said that probably won't repair my coffeemaker either. And then I thought about the civil discourse class that we had to thinks that jumped out to me within the couple of seconds. I was process in this in my head was listened to the other person is say, in to me that was the hardest thing to do was to listen to him, but I forced myself to listen and the other point was. Allen said in his course to to try to find common values. So after the guy had finished Yellen pontificating for awhile. I basically said, listen, I hear you, but I disagree with you. And I think that these players are showing Dc patriotism, and they're showing what's good about America, but I hear you an Onder stand what you're trying to say and I respect that view and we have not a pleasant conversation, but an okay conversation for just a few minutes. And then he finally said, well, I hear you too. And I left my coffeemaker came back the next day, he hands it to me, and says, no charge. So I guess, to me, the moral of the ad is that. Old crotchety white man like me can change their ways. And I did by taking this course. And the second thing is that listening. Is the hardest part because we are so accustomed in our discourse to just tune people out, but the course we took and the discussions, we had in that course, helped me personally in that little conversation. Oh, that's a great story, listening deeply is very difficult, and I'm very impressed that you were able to process so quickly. I have a question for Alan about the values based conversations. Why should we always begin? So we'll discourse from a place of values. Part of the reason is to help combat this nature. We seem to be in the US in particular to be more confrontational to always jump to talking about my position, my point of view and to sort of take a step back from that initial reaction and say, okay, what are the what are the values that are underlying my political position here, and what are the values of the other person, and maybe we share those in common? And if you start the conversation there, there's a much greater likelihood of having a more constructive and positive engagement moving forward. What happens then when you are? And discourses someone who does not share the same values, and that's a great question. If you think about the definition of civil discourse, it's conversation to enhance understanding having civil discourse with someone whose values differ from you, as an opportunity to understand where they're coming from to learn about it again. It doesn't mean you're taking on their position. It doesn't have to mean you're giving more credibility position. But you're learning about them and about that point of view how it comes about. And if you show respect engage with humility, then there is a greater likelihood that they're going to do the same for you. And you'll also have an opportunity to share your perspective. One of the one of the things that, that we saw in this series of forums that we held is most of the people came to the conclusion that no matter how many differences, you have with somebody if you try hard enough, you can find that common valley. Allen's curriculum has a little exercise that you do. And it is a dentist by from a long list, what she think or the or your main personal values, and then, thank of somebody who, who do you have gotten into an argument with or somebody who you disagree with, or somebody who has the opposite political views of you, and try to list, what their values and seek, if any of them overlap. In our group, we had fun with that, exercise because probably three quarters of them quickly found something that they could identify as common. But about a quarter of the people said, no, I don't have any values with this other person. So how can I have a conversation with? But my contention is if you try hard enough and work hard enough, you, you can find those common values right there. There's some things that are pretty universal right. Especially when it comes to children, I really liked that the curriculum addresses policymaking in legislation. This is a messy process and it's unclear what the actual consequences are of any given policy after it's been implemented, you know, compared to how it was intended in the beginning. How can we make sound decisions Alan that reflect our ethics and values? So I think that the concept of civil discourse with practice of civil discourse really is about unlocking away forward to do that. We all have differing political views, but if we're not having good dialogue, healthy conversation if we're not understanding each other, those tools aren't going to work together. So the whole process of civil discourse and trying to build up that practice to engage in more constructive conversation with one another really is about building better policy. It is about building better legislation. Whether that's something like in bills case, that's at the the really local level, or it's something that's more national and for example, I've worked with the clergy in the diocese of Connecticut using this curriculum to discuss issues of gun reforming gun violence. So it's something that is applicable really no matter what the topic is, but it's applicable because it's about unlocking all of these gifts and these perspectives. That's they well put, what are the false narratives about the value and significance of civil discourse, because we are currently, actively devaluing it on television. Nowadays are on talk radio ones that come to mind that, you know, civil discourse is, is the only means of engagement, but it's not to say that the only two options or to be civil in civil discourse or just to be on civil. I don't think that's accurate. I think civil discourse really as a particular tool for a particular type of engagement and interaction with one another. There are other possibilities, or other ways of expression of freedom of speech, voicing, our opinions and perspectives that don't necessarily have to be a part of the practice of civil discourse. So rice leaders didn't always agree with one another. But there was something more fundamental, but they did agree with values that they did share and do share now to ring all of their gifts together. They're still using civil discourse to find a better way forward. So bill. I have a question for you about how your civil discourse help you in your discussions with the candidates about the big box store. One of the candidates that he was tired of going to the coffee shop or going to the small grocery store, s a citizen and being jumped and yelled at by somebody else. We don't have to be so acidic. It's nice to be nice every once in a while. We're also learning how to try to turn the conversation into a more kindly conversation. We all agreed as a as a group that we need it to continue the discussion that it's not just a one time thing that you've got to have those discussions face to face. You've got the have them in a community in person. So we're continuing to, to meet, but we're not we're not doing it through social media because for some reason, and Jalan might have better perspective than I do for some reason, it seems social media is not very good. At encouraging good civil discourse. All right, Allen. Here's your field. That's your question. It is. Yeah. I think Bill, I think that's right in it gets back to an earlier question of how charges play in a particular role and promoting and building civil discourse churches a place that people do come together in person. There's something more real and genuine and personable about actually being face to face with someone I think our interactions or quite different when we're there, looking at someone in the eye nonverbal communication is the vast majority of our communication, and we're behind our keyboards or phone screens tapping away to respond on social media. We don't get that nor do we give it. And so that really cuts down on how effectively are talking to one another. There are I think uses to social media, but it's not necessarily our forum for engaging folks in conversation doing that person is really it's more effective. It may seem slower but it really is more effective for this type of deepen unnecessary work sort of a sacred space for debate in the. Curriculum. Oh, tell us more about that. The sacred space for debate. There's really something sacred about the pursuit of, of understanding one another, this building up this practice to sharpen our minds, advancer, ideas, improve our ideas, and put them together so that we can move forward brings us together. It opens up opportunities to discuss new topics to learn new things and recognize the humanity in one other, especially sort of in a period of time, where I feel like re we're losing that. And I think it's important to, to really be informed by ideas beyond our own be aware of, of possible other perspectives, and learn flaws that we have in our own thinking. So have you been surprised by anything and the time that you have rolled out this curriculum and taught it and interact with people around the curriculum? I think I really was surprised at how well it's been received in the church or at least how widespread it's been received to have groups working on it on, on such different topics as a group. Shree store or gun reform is really significant. And I think that I I've taken out of something really encouraging for the curriculum itself. And how applicable it is. It was just exciting to see it have that type of visibility and reach within the church. So then Bill. How about you was there anything that you learned that surprised you or something that happened in the class over the four weeks that you thought, oh, I didn't think this was going to happen. Well, the, the sheer number of people who, who came, and in his take to use the word the excitement, but the interest in continuing the conversation as been really strong, and impressive, I didn't expect that when we got into it, I thought it would be more of a trudging along trying to get people interested in instead, it was I need to find more chairs because we've run out of chairs for people to sit in. Not rent into the mayor the other day, and he said, you know, this is a starting point in maybe we can be we as town, not as just your church, but just says a town, we can be a little example, to some of the other towns around on, on, on how to get along with each other how to how to govern in a in a more respective way in a more more pleasant way here here. I think there's a real hunger for more humanity in everything that we do nowadays here, and America so final question looking into the future. What makes you hopeful Bill you go first. Well, I'm hopeful for the for the reasons I just stated in and you said very eloquently that there seems to be a hunger for for, for Mike in our individual lives and making our communal lives better. And one of the ways we can do that is to listen to understand and, and to. Find common ground. That makes me hopeful. Yes. And how about you Allen? What makes you hopeful I second bills remarks? And I'm also hopeful for the increasing in diversity and representation that is taking place in communities across the country. I think that's bringing in rich ideas, new perspectives on that are so critical to have and have been absent for a long time. So I'm hopeful for that reason as well. Thank you very much. Thank you both. Thank you, Allan, especially for the work that you do. And thank you Bill for taking this leadership in your community. It's been fun talking to you. And I thank you, in return for, for this great podcasts that you're doing, and it, it's fun. Isn't it, it is? Thank you. And it's really fantastic to meet people like both of you. I think that's my favorite part about it is that they're so many people actually, who are invested an actively engaged in trying to make our communities better. Thank you. Very much has been great to be a part of this. I so enjoyed speaking with Bill with his earnest and through Seattle for a society that engages productively in civil discourse. And Allen, of course, who has created a course from members of the Piscopo church to learn how to be good participants and civil discourse, I thought it was so helpful for him to point out that civil discourse is not about persuading someone about our own convictions. But it's about engaging and disagreement. Civil discourse can be successful, if he can find common values. Ios and always communicate with respect and humility I wonder how we can create the sacred space that we discussed today where we can find the courage to listen deeply tweets. Other even men were disagreeing, when we communicate with respect and humility, and where we confine our common values. How can I witness videos create human rights change on the next episode of future? Hindsight, our guest as Jackie's and Muto. She's the program manager in the United States for witness an organization that helps human rights defenders use video to expose injustice. Her work includes police accountability immigrant rights, indigenous rights, and beyond, what can video actually do we still have sometimes a sense that video can change everything even though my work is so focused on video. It's important to recognize the challenges that it can pose to us. And it's important to think about how video can be used in conjunction with other tactics. So if we are trying to fight for social Justice video alone is not going to do that. But it can be used as a way to complement other tools activties and initiatives until next time. I'm neil. Lot moss. Thank you for listening to future Heintz, the executive producer and host of this program is meal, ATMs. The audio producer in music, composer, is Peter fader. The associate producer is mediums find us online at future. Hindsight dot com and listen to us through your favorite streaming services.

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Monday, March 2, 2020 - The Christian Science Monitor Daily

The Christian Science Monitor Daily

12:28 min | 11 months ago

Monday, March 2, 2020 - The Christian Science Monitor Daily

"Welcome to the. Monitor daily podcast. It's Monday march. Second thanks for joining us. I'm Amelia Newcomb Kaplan. The deal signed this weekend between the United States and the Taliban prompted me to ask the Monitor's Scott Peterson about a moment. He remembers well the day. The Taliban fell after nine eleven he was among the first Americans to get into Kabul. Driving South from the Punchier Valley and what he witnessed that day framed the forces he seen at work since first thing we came across a big crowd that was attacking a member of Al Qaeda Scott Recall. It was a level of brutalized violence. We certainly have seen in the years since but that same day we came across a wedding. Women who had not been able to be out in public were dancing in the street and the level of joy was profound. It showed me how capable Afghans were of resurrecting themselves after all that time of darkness. Now says Scott who is in the country people feel deep uncertainty asking why the US's legitimising the group that caused them such misery but the clock has not just been turned back. Nineteen Years Women's Liberation Civil Society Groups. Speaking freely all that has been taken as far as it ever has been in. Kabul Scott says though were still a prolonged with colossal hurdles to go still as his Friday story reported. Many Taliban have changed as well. We are kind of done with war. They told him now. To our five stories including part two of our navigating uncertainty global series the sanders campaign and twitter and therapeutic horseback riding centers. Our first story in a public health crisis the top value on. Everyone's mind is safety but should've come at the cost of personal freedoms in some ways experts. Note it's a false dichotomy. Democratic values can aid the fight against corona virus to with six reported deaths attributed to the new corona virus. The United States is getting a firsthand look at life amid a global outbreak. Hand sanitizer paper. Towels and soap are flying off. The Shelves System Farrow a manager at a local grocery chain in Seattle in some ways. It's a scene that mirrors others around the globe from Han to Milan as authorities try to handle the rapidly growing epidemic but the differences are also stark while China imposed draconian quarantine of Wuhan's eleven million people to curb the spread of the virus officials in Italy. South Korea and the United States face more hurdles to rapid mobilization at the same time the relative transparency openness and respect for individual liberties prize by democracies can also be a major advantage analysts say in keeping the public informed about risks and prevention reducing panic and maintaining crucial trust in government actions generally in open societies. I'm more confident in the ability for a virus to be contained says Debbie Shreedhar director of the Global Health Governance Program at Edinburgh University because it's transparent and that's what you want to have free information flowing and good governance. This story was reported by an Scott Tyson in Seattle and Sarah Miller Yana in Toronto for the Monitor when we say that the postwar orders influx. What are we really talking about? Sometimes it boils down to one word China but the questions that Beijing's rise has posed for people from Taipei to Washington are far more complex. This is the second article in our global series navigating uncertainty when the Chinese government embarked on free market economic reforms. Forty years ago it was widely believed that sooner or later Beijing would also make political changes that would bring China into line with Western norms but President Xi Jinping has made it clear he wants to do more than strengthened. The Communist Party's autocratic control over his homeland. He would like to see the Chinese way of doing things. Spread around the world. Beijing has the development aid money and the trade clout to back up its ambitions but China's neighbors and others are pushing back against what they see as undue interference in the South China Sea Indonesia and Vietnam resisting Chinese territorial claims and the United States is backing them up. Many governments have welcomed Beijing's help as a development partner yet. Some are also questioning the fairness of deals that China has struck as part of its belt and road initiative to build roads ports and railway lines to connect Asia and Europe. Malaysia has renegotiated. It's part of that project beyond these doubts are fears of China's authoritarian style of government in Hong Kong demonstrators have staged massive protests for months to defend their democratic freedoms against Beijing's encroachment says one prominent lawyer there. Today's Hong Kong may be your tomorrow. This story was reported by an Scott Tyson in Pingtung County Taiwan for the Monir according to a monitor analysis supporters of Bernie Sanders and the most active and aggressive in their responses to other campaigns on twitter. Many say it's all in the service of a greater good Britain foster a musical booking agent who lives near Albany New York tweets and re tweets hundreds of messages in support of Senator Bernie Sanders each day. She also puts out hundreds of replies mostly negative to tweets made by his rivals. Ms Foster is one of the top twitter users responding directly to the five leading Democratic candidates over the past year. According to a monitor analysis of those pro- sanders accounts far exceed the supporters of any other democratic campaign. It's become almost cliche to note that twitter isn't real life but that doesn't mean it has no impact during the two thousand sixteen campaign. Donald Trump proved twitter's power in agenda setting and he has continued to use it as an effective tool throughout his presidency. Among the thousands of tweets analyzed by the Monitor only Mr Trump's supporters rival Mr Sanders in the quantity and often vitriolic nature of their replies calling Bloomberg out for example. We can do that on twitter and the media sees it. The pundits see it the other politicians see it says Miss Foster. Our goal is to influence the national discourse and. We don't have another platform where we could reach those people so easily. This story was reported by story. Hinckley in Washington for the Monitor. Trust and confidence can be elusive for many people. Dream CATCHERS THERAPEUTIC. Horseback riding center helps those with disabilities make strides in expressing these qualities nestled into the backroads virginias. James City County dream catchers offers respite for those seeking the mix of patients honesty and Camaraderie. That some say only horse can provide. The ranch is one of a growing number of therapeutic riding centers and has served more than eight hundred participants since its founding in nineteen ninety-three and working with a participant. Trainers can quickly adjust based on the writers needs changing the speed stance on the horse or maneuvers. Progress isn't always linear says instructor and Barn Managers Samantha Bannock but instructors can gradually pushed participants to build their confidence. And Trust when you come to that animal with all of your junk with all of your past issues with WHO. You are physically. That horse doesn't Care Says Share Smith Communications Coordinator for the Professional Association of Therapeutic horsemanship International Karen. Stoke says she sees a change in her daughter when they come to the Ranch Christie who has special needs smiles more talks more and parades around her confidence. She has sessions with melody a thousand plus pound draft. Horse I'm happy when I see her says Christie stokes. This story was reported by Noah Robertson and James City County Virginia for the Monitor from American biologist Roman dial nurtured a family ethos of independence and adventure years later that choice forced agonizing soul-searching after his son disappeared into Costa Rica's Lush Corcovado National Park and experience the dial shares in his memoir. The adventurers son. You can read our full review of the memoir in today's issue or at CS monitor dot com slash daily Now commentary on the. Us Taliban deal from the Monitor's editorial board under a deal negotiated by the trump administration. The Taliban and Afghan government are due to start direct peace talks March tenth. We're going to need every Afghan to join in. Us Secretary of State. Mike Pompeo told the Afghan people in announcing the deal Saturday in Afghanistan. That means women. Afghan women were highly suppressed under Taliban rule of the nineteen nineties. This is still the case in areas now controlled by the Islamic radical group yet. Starting last year as the United States pursued the talks in order to exit its longest war women began to use Hashtag campaigns peace marches in conferences to demand meaningful participation in any intra abdominal talks only. Afghan women sitting at a table across from the Taliban could adequately protect the liberties protections and opportunities. They have won since the two thousand one U. S. led invasion by bringing light to their rights. They can protect what they have one. So far the lasting promise of peace may well rest on how many women are at the table with the Taliban. That's a wrap for the news. You can find the full length versions of these stories in today's issue or at CS monitor dot com slash daily. And thanks for starting your week with us. Since we started this issue with Scott Peterson's observations about Afghanistan. I want to point you to his piece in tomorrow's Daily which looks at Afghans eagerness for Pete's and skepticism about the Taliban today's Christian Science Spiritual Perspective column shares. How if we feel threatened by illness we can open our hearts to healing fear dissolving inspiration from God you can find the column in today's issue or at CS monitor dot com slash daily. We want to give a quick thanks to our staff including today's audio production team Rebecca Swollen Morgan Anderson and Jeff Turkey. This podcast is produced by the Christian. Science Monitor Copyright Twenty Twenty.

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[069] The Buccaneers are moving on and its glorious

Buccaneers Observer

40:34 min | 1 year ago

[069] The Buccaneers are moving on and its glorious

"Every year in the NFL it's a new team. As far as goals. Go. We have one. Putting a fucker ran on a finger. Up into the observer podcasts Billips. Molly bay today is may twenty Firth two thousand nineteen one hundred six days to kick off day, one of a new era. Definitely definitely, the knives are out fans are fighting it's terrible bloodbath on Twitter to of gun. There's two camps the right Cape in the raw camps. The right camp though. It's the right camp in the idiots. Yes. Tell we, that's what it's come across as Email very divisive on Twitter. A lot of people I understand our emotional, but they're kind of lashing out at the other side is true, there's a lot of comments about. There's a lot of idiots on Twitter today, or I'm just over these dumb comments or not a whole lot of engagement or discussion. Just a lot of name calling Beck's steps thrown around back and forth between both parties. And of course, you can make stat say whatever you want. Yeah, I saw some last week or earlier in the week, maybe comparing McCoy and sue, and you actually pulled similar stats couple podcast ago. Or did you just text them to me? I can't remember you talked about him in the podcast. Yeah. In the stamps later. So then. They cherry picked all the ones that made the coil good left out the ones that made him. Look, not so good compared to sue. That's what everybody's doing. I think it's one of those things where we're just going to have to wait and find out, you know, if you haven't heard McCoy has been cut by the buccaneers and the rumors which aren't really rumors. I mean, we got top NFL guys, Adam Schefter, and all those saying that the buccaneers are signing the dominant sue and fell tweeted a picture of him in about the Air's uniform cartoon with the number ninety three now that was crazy. I was like, whoa. Oh, you wore that number. It's not like they're just know this lab jerem coined the vase. Maybe they are. But he's always order, ninety three right McCoy both have ninety three throughout their whole career net McCoy are seal were ninety somewhere because ninety three is taken, I can't remember where it was because he ninety three at the Rams ninety three Troy which. Heme which is a big smack in the face. And it's a huge statement if they do get sue. I mean, they just released McCoy today at four pm was the official actually release. Yes. And by what five o'clock they had already said there were signing sue, yes, so the details haven't been released. I'm not sure that it's completely Inc debt back through, but it's a one year deal and Greg, almonds reporting that he heard, it's ten million dollars house before I think McCoy was even released which is exactly what was about ten million dollars. So we're only saving three million adult take, apparently, it was not the money that was the issue. I think it's the culture change and swapping out McCoy for sue is definitely a culture change in. It's going to be telling it's going to it's going to say a whole lot about both players and I guarantee you wherever McCoy goes, he's going to bust his butt to prove his critic draw and I guarantee you. Zoe. So. If Suu comes to the buccaneers, he's going to bust his butt to prove that he's better than McCoy, we'd situation, but just about everybody if you ask me, but I think it would be very interesting, if McCoy went to New Orleans, or somebody NFC south we had to play him twice a year. But yeah, it's too huge statement by the buccaneers areas. I would assume don't know how. Now. Yes, it might be one of those things that goes pretty far up now I don't know if McCoy pissed off Glazer's or what happened there because he was there darling for a really long time. I think they put a lot of eggs in his basket. He just didn't pull through and they were like fine. Let's get rid of him in areas was the to do it. I mean hearings made no bones about the fact that he's just not high on McCoy from day one. He talked of every player on the roster just about. Typically, then do a couple of barbs Adam along the way, I haven't theory, I just came up with this news. It is a conspiracy there. What if German Koi is the source of a lot of leaks to the media. We now he's like, BFF's extravagant and Tom enter the guys at the Tampa Bay times. And maybe that's why the glazers are pissed off. 'cause you know, he's given the media information that maybe the glazers don't want out there or that may be benefit McCoy, but not the team. Interesting take, and with areas his motto is trough loyalty respect, you can't trust him if he's doing that. I don't know the. You couldn't trust him. He's clearly not loyal, and he doesn't respect organization when these to get on that find out, it is interesting to me how just about one hundred percent of the media. The local media is advocating for McCoy still. Yeah. Well, there's some of the ones that are making comments about there's a lot of idiots on Twitter. Rick Stroud to the one who broke that MacAulay was being cut. Rick Strahl also the one that said McCoy was going to be here in two thousand nineteen and he was also the one that asked Bruce Arians, y Bruce toll McCoy, not to show up to voluntary minicamp was, like that's wrong, where you got that room. Yeah. Conspiracy theory, so on Joe bucks fan. What are the Twitter comments said that the media has Gasol it us into thinking that Jeremy coy was a good player? I mean, we're constantly getting shoved down our throats that he is a six time. Pro bowler. All pro people, a have Sachs, they've done that pretty much since he's been here, but it really ramped up in two thousand twelve after we basically clean house with Ray Morris and his whole crew. And she came in and then they just immediately put McCoy front and center in the media, took it and ran with it watching Buchan ears game without them talking about McCoy, at least six times. Yeah. The announcers do every time yes. Even got name recognition, even if he's sitting on the sideline could be McCoy McCoy McCoy in the local media. They get all kinds of access with him. And the most of them have stayed quite a few times McCoy never met a microphone, you didn't light, so they all have access to. And it's we've talked about that on the podcast access media is kind of dangerous, when it becomes to getting the turn because they don't want to lose their access. So they're going to say things to make their access people happy and it's convenient if you don't have to work too hard for story. Someone's just gonna tell you the story. Well, it's gonna be interesting. We're gonna find that a lot of stuff about your McCoy and pretty sure now that he's gone. Some players will probably start opening their mouths. A lot of players were upset from the buccaneers, like lavar, David Donovan Smith tweeted sums in Judah, John, do we have him? For a long time ago. He was tweeden about McCoy n- to lamantia gave it wasn't. I don't remember I mentioned ex- player who was. I think they're still the league tweeted till Avantis David said I feel real bad for the von Tae right now. It was like why wouldn't you feel bad for McLean? Very, very odd crickets, cut people feel bad for the day. I don't know. We'll find out it's going to be interesting. But then, again, we ever find out two thousand eleven season. What happened there? Don't know enough will ever found out somebody fills in gives some dirt. Okay. Now that we're done with them. Koi, can we get it all shaken out anymore? Just little bit more. I've got we talked about it. We really blasted McCloy last podcast and talked about how we think it's a good thing for the team to move on from him. And I had said that I had hundreds of video clips of him, getting pushed out of the way. I don't have hundreds. That was an over exaggeration. Which I do that a lot over exaggerate quite a bit when talk about things, but I do have quite a few and challenged on Twitter to post them. So they're going to become an out tomorr-. I'm gonna have if all of them. Exhausted. At one minute to minute mash up. Tickets could be more than that. But it'll be quite a bit enough to where you can go because most pains, don't see that they see the highlight of players rarely see the low lights. So I'm just gonna show in these are not because I'm specifically honing in on just McCoy getting pushed out of the way. That's does have plenty of other things I could point out about McCoy like how he always not always see that's over exaggerating. How he gets in the way of the defensive end quite a bit. It's one of the reasons why I think that we have not had a defensive end been dominant because Tim McCoy will loop around a lot Thome like stunning but he's not stunning. But who get pushed into the defensive end by the right guard left guard. Whatever a lot of times knocks couple of players have been hurt by gerbil. Koi getting knocked into who was the ninety five number ninety five George Johnson. I'm pretty sure it was number ninety five hour Jones, actually got hurt cut it off feel at the game. Because typically got knocked into him confess on top of him was like, so, you know, there's all kinds of things that I could point out about McCoy lowlights. You know, the guy wasn't double-teamed all the time. He wasn't constantly disrupt in thing. I mean he did. I'm not saying he's a bad player say Nieves overrated. You know, listen to last podcast, you hear all the stuff we say I mean, he had plenty of downsides and I think that getting rid of him is going to help the team out. So when you look at it look tomorrow on the Twitter account for deer McCoy, getting pushed out of the way because that's one of the things he just was not strong just did not have the strength. That's what su- has over top of the Koi. Mccoy's great on his feet very fast very light on his feet. But he was not strong dominant sue, and strong. You know he anchors the center, more of a natural defensive tackle keeps the quarterback from being able to step up in the pocket stops the gaps from the runs. You always felt a German. It was more of a almost a defensive end in his you know, he was really about getting to the quarterback. And he would go all over the place to do it. And, you know, flailing arms and all kinds of stuff. But he did not anchor his gaps like you would normally expect defensive tackle the do, I think suit will be much better at that will between sue Bo Allen and Vida, my boy. I think we are going to be stopping everything the middle, it's going to be insane. Yeah. I mean that's basically it'll be those gods. Jobs is just plug up the middle. Oh my gosh. Going against the division. We talked about this right after the draft or free agency, maybe about how the whole division is sure enough their offense of line and predicted, maybe it was Vida, pretty sure it's because of gotten down conceal. Don't have yet, it's not official. We're NFL tweeted the newest member of the buccaneers defense down consume till the buccaneers an ounce. It, we can't say it's done it. Here's another thing. That's interesting. And you brought this up Molly that German cobras released they afford clock. Haven't heard a word about him being going anywhere. I think extreme said that the team was allowing him to find trade partners. They were allowing his agent to talk to other teams and see if they can find a trade partner that would be verbal. And yes, so he was released four hasn't been picked up. Maybe there's a bidding war going on there. Entertaining. The several different offers. We'd be hearing about that. I mean if we've heard already that's worse outing. Sue Adam Schefter tweeted that, like an hour after McCoy was cut you would think if there was anything about the coin being looked at or tined out Schefter would be saying that to you just. You just pointed that out. And I was like, oh, and think about that. So it's gonna be really interesting. I'm really excited about it. I'm excited about this year in general. But this is just added a whole new layer. It hasn't been a really good offseason member off season like this. Now I pretty excited when we got into events wasn't. Here's the thing about Durell Rivas. I didn't I thought he was overrating, and when he played with us he was he was over it. He didn't need that really. This like his retirement. Now what do they call it sabbatical basically? A year in between high school graduation and college. I can't remember what the call anyway. Yes, semi retired. And hopefully sue do that. But I don't think he will because he's got something to prove chip on his shoulder. He's always shoulder, but anyhow back del Rivas. I thought he was over rated I talked about was the best quarterback bub-bubba came here and I was like, I just don't see it. And then he went to the New England Patriots. And I saw him make some plays and do some things that were just amazing. I'd never seen a cornerback do before. And I was like why couldn't he have done that here? If your players like that we've had a lot of players players like to don't even go to the list, every time we go. Depressed? I was excited about the Vincent Jackson signing. Well visit Jackson he came in. He played hard. He was I like that. He's immersed himself in the community and he's still there. And he's very active golden restaurant. We gotta go to restaurant next. But yeah, but what they didn't like about Vincent Jackson and it wasn't him. It was the fans when he basically retired not a peep, nobody said a thing, but we had Mike Evans at the time. So everybody was just kind of like didn't really even. But Vince Jackson really helped the buccaneers a lot. He was a very he was up to that point. I think our best free agent signing. I mean you could say Keyshawn Johnson, but we all know how that turned out. I mean helped us when Super Bowl but we all know that was the defense. And if anybody tries to tell you, John, that want us. That want us to Super Bowl single to me, and I'll. Booking your helmet. That was our defense thing. It that's enough der McCoy probably not. We know of it'll never be enough. He has given us some good material over the past nine years. I wonder if there's a Petit if people are sick of hearing about, it's only been a day, though. It's kinda fresh. I know a lot of people are grieving. A lot of fans that are really upset. And I understand that too, because I've had players like that, where I'm upset. Go both. I was like, man seriously. Gary was probably the hardest for me. Well, besides judge Edward Edwards towards that left. Owns I felt that way. When Greg Xiang was fired. Yeah. Yeah. I think so too. I've always wanted to see him do something else that we can point. And guess? Stake when he was when he signed with the New England Patriots this year and he was going to be their defensive coordinator. I thought this is it. Medication? I don't know will ever go back to the NFL that Wilson. Yeah. I don't know the fan base hate him. But most of most of the hated him because of the media, the media could not stand great. She honor. Any is NATO that really I now let's followed. In fact, check all those he'll podcast ago we didn't do the less last pot. Check check glass podcast. It's funny because I'm sitting here looking at the game of thrones picture, picking Padraig from gave thrones mean you said FEC checks on just do it all together. And I sent a pod check, as a cool story around. Tell him again. Okay. So the last podcast we did distract terrible going in the podcast before that read a little bit in the instant ninety months. Yes. And I don't think we cover the following fact checks from the week before because I was sick Friday. We do the podcast. So this is following fact checks. Oh, if you of, but actually, I think these are just friendly Monday podcast. Anyhow, we talked about carbon tally being the book and break some news doing not as now get stuff, and we were like, who is Harvard. Hell we had never heard of before since two thousand eighteen and we'd asked could she had said this the training camp? They look much more excited energized and everybody flying around and all that we were like, what did she have to compare to their last training camp? Right. So any I looked it up, couldn't find anything from power tally on the books before last year? I did find her on the book and your staff media guide for two thousand seventeen but she was listed as the marketing communications coordinator. Okay, says she just changed Johnson twenty eight teen at town flank. Yes. And it's very strange because there are. There is no more marketing communications coordinator, listed as the book in the book, and Megan's staff anymore in two thousand eighteen she's listed, as a staff writer slash senior digital content producer at is more terp position. Yes, it seems like they do that with the buccaneers a lot. I don't know what's going on with their front office. But there's over two hundred people that were booking your front office. Now, I know there in council, I was like, man. This is a lot of people. You know, when I got from that is that yet a lot of time on your hands. Send counter into the names will agree with pictures. So I just was five across. That's not including the coaches or players anything to front office staff. I know one buccaneers places not that big. We're put all those people. Very good question. I don't now everybody saying, Glades spend money or not paying attention, because two hundred people in, you know, they make chump change. And then you got Bruce Arians, whole staff, which is basically to coaching staffs. And whenever they've done to the stadium nice stadium. Yeah, it is. It is still got that nineties feel to it. But since upgraded the screens, it looks a lot better, the only thing I think they could do better is don't get me wrong. I love the stadium the stadium and leave the parking lots now the grass the grass. Yeah. It's too hot water evaporates immediately. It's all right. Fact check. Here's what was Molly was horribly wrong about the game of thrones prediction. She gave us the thing. I regret is that I have this on recording. I wish that's how it did. And if you didn't listen, I send that in areas was gonna turn on winter fell and kill all the starts with dragon. It was a anti climatic agree with you, underwhelming news. But it wasn't horrible. It wasn't as bad as the last episode lost. It was as bad as last sopranos. Yeah. So they it was okay. I heard today that George are Martin is doing this book, which will end like where the series ended, and then he's got another one coming after that. Okay. Don't turn into a game throws podcast, what we just wanted to point out that Molly was wrong. We wanted to. I lost their Ralph did make a prediction because he said, I had no I do couldn't predict it. I wouldn't predict the dasher happy. In didn't expect to see a happy any game. My issue with that, unless you were fainted areas not too much of which happy ending for her. I'll tell you people complained about I don't want to go into my name throws, but people complain about the keep going on. Call myself. That was before the season. Finale was fantastic. I thought it totally blew me away. A lot of people are upset about it. But I think they were more upset about the fact that the nary us turn into the bad person. I thought it was great. It's takefuji. Literally, it was beautiful exit. Sodium, moving on next check Ralph. It said McCloy was off the field in the Seattle game two thousand thirteen in overtime mcquaid hot count. So yes, this is last podcasts. Ralph was wrong. Look, I'm doing the whole. He was not carted off the field, but he did get basically carried off the field between traders and he never returned in the game. Now I brought this up as a put of contention with me in McCoy. It was kind of when I started looking at McCoy, is this something wrong here with what I'm hearing from the media in what I'm seeing on Phil McCoy, we played as we said, in the last podcast, we were playing the NFC west at the time when they were the powerhouse to Beijing, and we went into Seattle and Seattle with their twelve man, good stuff and we played them hard and we played them into overtime the first play in overtime that McCoy was on the field he left and then Seattle ended up driving down the field and won the game. And I was just shocked. I was like how can somebody leave the game and then he didn't end? I thought what he's going to be out. At least a game he was. And it just really made me think. Mccoy's was he's just not that, that leader. Shift. You don't want that to be what the team follows. Yeah. What kind of leaner does that? Yes. I did not like that. But yeah. He the first defensive play the overtime he got hurt. And you couldn't really see it on film. It looked like he got road. And, you know, he grabbed his ankle, and he laid their the trainers came out, and it took forever. And then they finally took him off the field, but he did not come back during that game. He played the next game. And there wasn't much mentioned about it in the meteor anything about what was wrong with his ankle or nothing. And we ended up losing that game after fighting them hardboiled a good game when Thursday night football Monday. Maybe a don't think so. He might have been late Sunday afternoon. I don't think the prime time game I think it might have been gaining the week though. Don't remember that was a good game. I remember that. Yeah. So they bring car now for Coileman ended up talking about Jeremy Ralph together. See hell who go that talk about McCoy or game of thrones news? The box have signed Tom more as an off. Offensive consultant old tomore. Do you know him? He's like a three thousand years old. Eighty works old. Because he played. He was coaching coach receivers for the Steelers in nineteen seventy seven. Yeah. You started coaching before you were learn. Yes. College yet nine hundred sixty one I believe recognize his name. Okay. Who okay? He started coaching receivers at the Steelers. Nineteen seventy seven he was the offense of coordinator for the colts. When areas was the quarterback coach with Peyton Manning first year. Miserably. Yeah. And then areas brought him in as an assistant head coach and consultant when he was head coach of Zona, and now he's what the buccaneers. But it's not a full-time thing he's only here during training camp. Remember when she added that he wasn't I can't remember he brought him in as a consultant heading all season little, but this is it's not going to be this away. Not going to be here for the full season. Must have time coming in just for a very specific purpose drinking, buddy. Towns, a little fast. He might keel over any. We hit OTA's today. This is the second week, though taes are going on today. We're going onto more Thursday. The media's only land to be there. Today is correct. I think I didn't see last week this McCoy store. Look broke McCoy again, this McCoy story seems to have overshadowed all of it. I didn't see much from the media pocket about the OT as I saw things because the tally did her wrap-up OTA's today. Oh, and buccaneers dot com. She said this, and I'm going to verify this, what she says here, quote. She says every practice includes a field goal period where both car Saito's and Matt Gade kick from various distances. The rumors are true when gay kicks there is a very distinct. Boom and today was kicking toward the uprights closest to the actual building. I'm not sure the team will make that mistake again as gay lost ball on the roof because he kicked it so hard into quote, yes, I watched a video of him kicking, you can definitely tell. It sounds like he's hit with a baseball bat. The power big guy, and he doesn't have a full. He doesn't get like a running start like you see most back in the days, the kickers used to do, like a three step thing straight on it. He's kind of like dead. He doesn't do the whole twisting, and soccer background. Yes, maybe it has to do with that big guy. He's like Sebastian Jan account sqi would he hit? I was watching it headed on. And I was doing something else that I heard it the hope what was that the looked over and a dream? And sure enough, it was kicking him football kicker Cairo's gonna lose his job. Yeah. Yeah. Do poor Kyra. I did like him. He's billing horse jockey. He's really tiny most kickers are remember the gramatica brothers are gramatica little petite. Nude whatever fun to watch. Because every time they kick the ball, they do their their soccer celebration. Joep down everything and ended up hurting themselves. I think it was Kimber yet celebration after hurt their Saint down there. Buddy, guy's me books cleaned. Former jets tidied, Jordan leg off of waivers. Now this guy played with bowls at the jets he was drafted in two thousand seventeen by the jets were bowls is there but ended up getting hurt and training camp. And got put on I r didn't play all two seven two thousand seventeen he played in two thousand eighteen limited. Ilise started four games. I think he he played in fifteen but he was started four you had fourteen catches for hundred fourteen yards and a touchdown. And this guy we've got what six tight ends now. Roaster. And we've got Jay kmered -brate Claire, or clear, all clear, but behind -brate, they're all expandable. This guy might make the team. I think they're all fighting for that number three spot. But break and OJ have injury problems, so they might consider Brabham. Maybe that's true. Hopefully they will get in sync like a bunch of women on their menstrual cycle together, they'll have their injuries staggered. The. He's pretty pretty big tied into so he'll fit right in with her dog is yeah. He'll probably make the team though because just this connection with bowls. Maybe we'll see that we picked him up off waivers. Yeah. Now, I wonder if the waiver thing works the way offseason the way it does in the regular season. Like if we were top of the waiver list now, we're down at the bottom because we got this guy. Interesting to find out the only thing I know about Weaver's fantasy football kinda works saying. This life. Ashley presented a forty thousand dollar check for Texas aid to establish to need based scholarships for students students that come from his hometown. Dallas, Texas are eligible now this is a coding to Texas AM foundation and a picture of hill in Ashley, a couple of people holding up a big old corboy check, you know. And I think this is probably the money he raised from his charity event, there the other day, so that's kind of forty thousand dollar tax write off, j either way felt like forty four thousand dollars ailments, like twenty dollars to us. Right. I was trying to figure out the taxes like income taxes, people pay players would pay a photo. They don't pay a whole lot now. But you still pay federal income tax. Yeah, they're probably right around eighteen percent or so. They make twenty million mass thirty six thousand I can't ask today. All right. Let's keep it moving through her and sixty thousand. Yeah. He won't even miss that, whatever they pay their agents usually get quite a bit. Yeah. They're not like real estate agents, only get like five percent. Right. Like we talked about. Say bam McCoy one hundred million how much that went to agent quarter probably I think I had said that his his age. It was Tom Cadran, but it was big to thank anyhow, but one of the ones that worked at CA a neighbor big expensive agents. I mean I know he was getting over thirty percent and MacOS probably have to pay for the marketing to. Yeah. Of course, given up half his paycheck to his brand. Don't have still he's still walked away with fifty million dollars about now. Bad news. Bad news. Cowan Winslow junior used to be tied into the buccaneers left to mind loan with the Seattle. With the Seattle Seattle did that video in the locker room mocking Buchan ears, but mocking Cina he is on trial for three rapes. Well, yes, the guy is really, really in a bad way. He's going to see inside a prison for a long time. Now this has been going on for a while. Cut an hal's and they were called the police on him because he was like going around the house and looking in windows, and the call the police on him. And he got arrested. I think for breaking and entering or Sunday. And he made it he said, you know, they were profiling me. He was he was just looking at the house because he sailed from the owner, which the neighbor knew that wasn't true. Well turns out he was case of the joint. Yes to apparently rape, somebody he'd be charged with raping a fifty fifty four year old hitchhiker a fifty nine year old homeless woman as well as a seventeen year old girl when they were in college. Seventeen year old girl is now older, but he hasn't mid to having sex with these women, but as saying that it was consensual, but he also I mean there's so much with him that's going on. I keep tracking but he also bail for this. He ended up going to a gym twice and masturbate in front of us. Any one year old woman this woman say twice, and he got caught masturbating a car in a Wendy's parking lot. Yeah. That was a while bad. When he was still the lead. Yeah. Yeah. He's got so many problems. And here's the thing. His dad was a great receiver and had a great career. His dad was in the courtroom watching this, and they said he was just he was crying and miserable, could you imagine seeing your son just just ruined? His life lake to write seems to be quite a bit of evidence against him, the including blood stain underwear DNA has test. Which that's probably why he saying it was consensual because there's that kind of evidence. And he's married with kids. Right. So, you know, the law his lawyers are saying, yes, he cheated on his wife, but don't hold that against him. It's immoral. But it's not illegal. Okay. Just it's one of those things where it's there's, I'm normally, not a fan of if they're smoke. There's fire. But in this case, there's a sound much. It, you know, are so that sad news story here that good news though. Tampa, according to Gregg Allman is going to unveil downtown statue for Buchan ears, greatly ROY Selmon. He's a franchise first draft pick and hall of Famer. He also served as athletic director for US F. He died in two thousand eleven at age fifty six but gonna put up a statue commemorating, LeRoy Selmon. That's great news. Wonderful news, what he diner. That's really young. There were died of a massive stroke. He was young fifty six. Is that right? Yeah. That's really sad said, the but at least getting the statue I said that was gonna be good news. They make Ted the needed depressing yourself that it might be don't bulleting I dunno. They're Roble Twitter said that the NFL is starting to have a mental health clinician that has to attend the players eight to twelve hours a week for each NFL team, nothing. No. Okay. Well, that's good for the middle health clinicians. Eight twelve hours a week so that they just have to be at facility, I guess, and available in case people wanna talk. I don't know just says that they have to attend to players eight to twelve hours a week. I guess I said counseling sessions, but what nobody wants to do. I mean do date of kind of sit there and sit there for twelve hours a week, mostly. I wonder if they're doing that because of the implications of. C. T E. Yeah. I'm sure that's what it is a PR saying plus. They care about the players. I think they're just the way things are hitting pretty soon every company organization's going to have to see we already have human resources. We have diversity trainers diversity counselors, we're gonna have mental health counselors at every job of his job had a staff like high interest. But that's what this is. I don't know. But like with a pharmacy. Everybody. I know it'd be dragging my bosses. Prozac zanex their coffee. Out of cups of coffee on. Go. See miss Judy on the second floor stressed out. Yeah. And if they like sound CBD Gumy's and become make you relax. I don't know what about this. Other guy works next door than deals now. He sells kind of CD products to why are you friends them? I'm for twisting until I relaxed. At OTA's today, Vernon Hargreaves was available. He was practicing and monroy and his mind is right? And we got a little bit of clarification about what went on last week. Apparently, we all blew it out of proportion, Vernon wasn't quite right. It was an injury related issue, not that he wasn't ready to practice. He just wasn't quite recovered from a lingering issue that he's had not his shoulder and wasn't practicing. Hit even his it was his choice not to practice. And he said that the a had talked to him a few times before then he said it didn't turn him off to be said. I'm a, a coach's kid. That's what he called himself a coach's kin. And it was just a little bit of tough love being coming out in making those comments about him, but they had talked beforehand, so all is well with Vernon Hargreaves with on that. Feel do something tired of him being injured all the time. And when he is on the field, not really doing much come over and three show up, buddy. You got this. I think he feels a lot in the pressure. And I. He's like a veteran on the team. I get the sense that he wants to live up to expectations. Good. Sal. I'm excited to see what he can do or it's one last thing about jerem coy the book. Well, we're going to have rapid when I wanted to say this, there is a lot of contention between the fan base she'd, like everybody's divided between pro McCoy anti McCoy. I'm gonna guess there are quite a few people in the middle her like, well, I like to call, but I think it was the right thing to do any there. Well, I liked McCoy but on the bucks fan. So if that's what they think we need to do to win then. So be it, which is what I'd like to see everybody do. But my whole thing is dull, then great people that feel different than you. We all have our different opinions. It's good to talk about him. I like say people throw out stance, and there was the one at all comes down to. We're all bucking your fans. We all support the team. I mean sport each other. We want the team to win. I my discussion I like discussion. I love that confrontation. He's arguments debates. Don't get an confrontation with Ralph has he's absolutely brutal. I kill and that real quick, he'll toilet the for a while. I remember Ralph was in fantasy Lee. League with his high school. And there was one guy that was a Steelers fan all worked for the guy that was. Wanna listen to drown arm house. Right. So anyway, Ralph was talking shit to the one guy. He was a Steelers fan and Ralph is talking about how bad the Steelers we're gonna be that year. And it was the year. They went to the Super Bowl. So the next draft, the guy is in the chat to talk and smack, you said my Steelers, we're going to go anywhere, and we got a Super Bowl and all this, and Ralph absolutely embarrassed guy in the trash talk is fine. But Ralph quashed it real quick, like the Hoeger quiet. I think you ended it with something like I'm gonna put a Ray Lewis is boot up your house. That was. And no one else talk show the rest of the season. And they didn't ask Ralph to play again not remember that at all. You had somebody over. Probably if you're on the receiving end but you had something from every team in that division. Like a Ray Lewis is boot up your ass something to do with the Bengals something to do with the Browns. It was good poetry, almost interesting store. This at all. I remember being part of the league pretend they were all remember lice stop plame. No. Just. Oh, that's funny. I just remember there were a lot of them worked FBI. The main girl who I was friends with in high school. She works FBI, so's book, FBI, co-workers, hers, and stuff. So that's really that was a long time. How do you remember stuff like that? I remember everything like a steel champ. So we're discussion. He start calling idiots. And I'm sick and Ralph on you. Bring up some Ray Lewis and boots. I'm sensitive. So don't be mean to me. Just kidding like people at its two or this, wrapping up for us tonight. One of the podcast out, it'll be out Friday morning, usually we try to get them out about one o'clock Friday morning. So you can enjoy your drive to work or whatever, but we don't have advertise on this show or anything. So no matter what you do in stop right now, share. After listening in shared to whatever social media platform Facebook, Twitter and. Wherever you reside. Share-out stop all this stuff to yourself. If you wanna get in touch with me, you can reach me at Molly Bay Buccaneers observer dot com. If you'd like to set Ralph, your favorite Gerald McCoy staffs. He could be reached at Ralph at buccaneers observer dot com. We've got a Twitter account bucks underscore observer and a website ears of their dot com. Bookie stuff. I think he did. We have some deadbug, he stuff on our Twitter. But he's already does for us next time.

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Mara Urbina

Future Hindsight

23:22 min | 1 year ago

Mara Urbina

"There's a podcast, I think our listeners would want to know about. It's called seen on radio. The show has received much acclaim for its deep and engaging dives into the history, and the very structure of American society. How can we see society more clearly so he can be more effective in changing it seen on radios to recent documentary series seeing white and men have explored racism and sexism in I opening ways checkout seen on radio? That's S C E N E on radio from the center for documentary studies and PR X, welcome to future. Hindsight. I'm meal at moss. How can a grassroots movement work in a way to bring about legislative action? That's the question for guests on future. Hindsight today, Mari will be not. She's the national political director of indivisible an organization that cultivates a grassroots movement of thousands of local indivisible groups to elect progressive leaders realize old progressive policies and rebuild our democracy. Thank you for joining us. Thanks so much for having me me, LA he'll welcome, so as political director, you're leading national political strategy and you have a lot of things that you're working on actively now, but before we delve into that, tell me briefly. How does indivisible work, we are an organization that is actually really in response to support a movement that came together shortly after the Trump administration came into office by our founders Leah and as Roma, they wrote, this indivisible guy, this Google doc, that went viral shortly after the two thousand sixteen election that really just. Mystified, congress and gave folks, a roadmap to their own power and their own agency, and reminded everyone that in order for Trump to move anything he would have to have a willing congress as a partner, leeann address, specifically were reminded of some of the tactics, they saw when they were hill staffers that the tea party used around local constituent energy, that focused on everyone's specific member of congress and just sort of, you know, bearing witness to history and letting members of congress know what their local constituents really cared about. And so it was a movement that was meant to transform a lot of the anger frustration and fear that folks fell and sort of offer an on ramp to organizing and advocacy, I checked out your website and there's a short video that I really liked that tells you everything about what you're supposed to do with our district office visits coordinated phone calls to earned media events and organized protests attend town halls and other public events. And preferably shop in groups and write joint statewide, public letters letters to the editor, mentioning your member of congress by name and also right up ED's. What is the most popular way for individuals to get involved because some of these, you know, not everybody can wake up ED's? Let's say. So I would say last cycle, the twenty thousand cycle was really the, the rise of this movement of people sort of all organizing in their local communities together under an indivisible sort of banner, what was special about indivisible, and what is special about our movement is, it's everywhere literally, in every congressional district, there's more than four thousand groups across the country and what we started to see and hear from people was that they didn't realize other people that share their views lived in their own communities. And so for folks, it was sort of just that finding of community. That was the most powerful part of doing any of those tactics that you just described that though, has contributed major ways. If you look at last cycle, you look at, for example, those town halls and those district office, tactic suggestions, those happened really early on in two thousand eighteen when the Republican congress with Republican, president started going after ObamaCare and healthcare. And you saw folks just hit the streets organize thousand person town halls with their. Members of congress, some of them catching them off guard and speaking really clearly that folks needed their healthcare that they needed these protections. That sort of just being visible and being together and scaling over time was incredible. And now when you look back at the last cycle, you think about what were those issues that candidates were talking a lot about what were the issues that they paid a lot of, you know, commercials for it was as largely healthcare. And so it is really powerful to see how early on your action, whether it's calling your member of congress, whether it's going in person or to a community gathering like town hall, and asking your members clearer specific and pointed questions resulted in record retirements from Republican members of congress who sort of saw what was ahead to us. That's a really powerful arc to say it matters what you do in the defense of these issues and the defense of marginalized communities and it matters. How clearly you speak to these issues to your members of congress as often and strategically as possible. So do you do sort of training on how to speak? Yeah. There's a couple of different ways that we try to do this, obviously, it's a huge movement that really sources their leadership at the local level, and we're really proud of that. We're really proud, you know, one indivisible group in, in Nevada might be completely different than an indivisible group in Tennessee meant, so we have to make resources that are acceptable, that are scalable, that are smart. And so a lot of those resources are distributed organizing resources where you can go to our website. You can download an explainer on different legislative procedures or why the certain advocacy or strategy recommendation is the right one for whatever is moving in the congress at that time, a lot of our focus over the last cycle, was, however, we demystifying congress how we sort of turning everyone into the insiders that they should be because we are the folks that put these folks in office, we now have a small, but mighty training department, that is also thinking, kind of long. Term about leadership development and training, we had convenience across the country, that would focus on organising on, on power building on building skills, and growing leadership and making sure that our folks were also growing leadership within their own spaces so that there's enough people to carry this work forward, as folks tap in and out of the work. You do also engage in protests. In fact on January twenty third of this year, indivisible held a national day of action. Why did you choose protests for this purpose? It's really important that lawmakers either, when they go home for their home district periods or when they turn on their televisions or their radios or they read the paper that they are seeing clearly, what constituents are demanding them, what constituents expect from them. And so it was really critical that the first day of the opening of this new congress as historic new, congress that the members of congress and the new democratic majority in leadership was really clear about, you know, not only who helped deliver. Deliver some of these winds these electoral gains in the congress, but also that we weren't going away. We just helped organize and support an incredible movement and shift in power. We're still here and we're going to continue to organize and build. I have a question about when you decided a when you saw that you strategy is working with more than four thousand groups on the ground, and essentially outnumbering, the tea party, I what point did you realize? Okay, this is a pivotal moment for you. And you know, this is definitely the way forward. Yeah. That's a great question. I mean, healthcare has to be a huge initial flash point just to see the numbers and the volume of people in early. Twenty seventeen took to the streets took to town halls. I'm not sure if you recall early in the cycle after President Trump was elected new hurts him whispers from the Senate Democratic party in the leadership, that, you know, gosh, me, we need to work with him. Maybe these are the different things we might need to do and sort of, like, ceding, power even before, folks started to. To come into that new congress. And so it was really important that activists and people in their local communities and constituents where speaking, clearly that they expected an opposition party. That was going to be really strong and active against us administration that they weren't gonna just seed the space because they sort of just had already done. The math in these initial congressional work periods or recess. Periods is what we sort of became known for early on, which is highly we support you so that when you're members are back home that you are making crystal clear to them with volume and with clarity what you're expecting. And so health care was really the first embodiment of that, and you start continue throughout the cycle. And so I, I would say that was the huge huge huge, huge flashpoint that we were able to really stop what they were trying to do with, with ObamaCare. And really now make it an issue that's vulnerable issue for Republicans. When they talk about healthcare. Yeah, they're definitely vulnerable. And as you mentioned, there were record retirements, actually, can you give as a? Concrete example of something, where you're pressure made the member of congress decide, you know what I'm going to not try again. There is specifically a group that would get together in southern California and Isa's district. They were tenacious they would get together every single day of the week and their crowds would just grow and grow and grow and grow. And it was really really powerful to see how they were pushing him so much on the issues eventually it was like this is not even worth it. The other point I'd make is that specifically in California after folks, awesome, these town halls and congressional districts people were really excited about what that would mean for the electoral side of the work, California. Unfortunately, it'd been a place where folks would go and fundraise and, and then leave so is really wonderful to see the ways that organizing Certa to stay within California and really talk about how flipping the congress would work through California and seeing the activity there, even though they did have a jungle primary. Early was exciting because it meant that grassroots people everyday people could get really involved in what would be a critical congressional election. So I it was really fun to see like the early side to the very end. Get to spend amazing to watch. Some of those seats flip, including California forty-nine was that USA one. So since we're talking about dangled primaries. Let's shift to the twenty twenty election, which is where you're focusing right now. And there is a new, we are, indivisible twenty twenty pledge. It's in three parts for both voters and candidates. Can you tell us more about the parts? Yeah. Absolutely. As we started to rule out our primary engagement work, which is to say, like, how do we support dismemberment of people who want to get involved in this primary, but maybe have some sort of discomfort or legitimate concerns about how to talk about these things without creating division morning? My mandates is, how do I support our movement to be engaged? An invest. Sit in the primary and unafraid in this primary knowing that, whatever we do in the primary, we will ultimately be helping won the democratic nominee emerged strong and bedded and chew that early engagement will lead us to do the work that we need to do to win in the general and to be unified in general. And so in March, when we were a year out from Super Tuesday, we rolled out sort of the first version of this. It's called primaries are dot dot dot and we were sort of trying to generate some buzz around primaries being healthy in primaries being a good way to talk about our issues and primaries being a good way to win. The pledge was was a continuation of that theme in a response to the movement. We wanted him set a tone early in the cycle to say that no matter what next summer after the democratic nominee wins that we will all support them. No matter who they are because the stakes are too high then that, that the mandate is clear. So we wanted it to be both for the candidates, the presidential candidates were running for the democratic nomination and also for individuals. In the grassroots community, because we understand that this is going to take all of us every major top tier candidate has signed on except for vice president Biden, and we have fourteen candidates who have signed on. That's more than half of the declared candidates, pardon fifteen. We have more than twenty seven thousand individuals who've signed onto the grassroots version of the pledge and what it says is one folks are pledging to make the primary constructive that they're going to respect the other candidates, but that the primary election is about inspiring voters with vision for the future. The number two, we're going to rally behind the winner that will support the ultimate democratic nominee, no matter who it is a number three that we're all going to do the work to be Donald Trump. My question now is what does your success signify about indivisible and your pragmatism on how to win elections, and making change? Oh, wow. That's a great. That's a great question. I think one of my biggest learnings that I try to take away in maintain as, as I approached the work is always to feel rooted in the importance of having folks locally in their communities, working on these issues, it can't be sort of just a top down operation or that can't be sort of a few operatives, or campaigners or organizers from DC devising things. Right. When we speak with one voice in these in these pinpoint moments is powerful, and this is what we can do, we can stop from reversing the protections, we have in healthcare, we can help support the protections of dreamers and those affected by the Muslim ban, and other marginalized people, we can push on these issues to, to really build a better democracy. But then also understanding that, that's always always in relationship with what folks are organizing Hauer supporting their leadership locally, and that's why it was a really. For us. And we built out our our congressional endorsements program last cycle. We wanted to make sure that the endorsements program had the grass roots voice along the process. And so, for us as a national organization, to even consider endorsing someone we have to I receive a local nomination from a local indivisible group who's already endorsed a candidate for, for the candidates, even get on our radar. So that's a small example. But I think an important one and I think that that's how we continue to grow the movement and ensure that it stays powerful and then it continues to center, people who are most marginalized, so that we can build a more inclusive democracy. Yeah. That's very eloquently put and it really speaks directly to why the grass roots approach is so successful when you're thinking about the twenty twenty presidential election. Who would you say if the opinion me of grassroots candidate? That might be tricky. If if I were on any of the staff teams for these presidential candidates right now, I'd be encouraging them to make time for the grass roots to prioritize grassroots into be in space and community with them one, because it's as we just talked about when you were talking to everyday people were organizing in their communities. They're going to help you be a better candidate because they're going to help inform some of these policy issues and give texture to them, and humanize them so that you can speak more authentically to the pain points that people are feeling in the country and then to because they're organizing right? I think what's so powerful about working in a grassroots movement. Is that when you're truly in community with grassroots local leaders, you hear from them early on who's talented which candidate is emerging, which message is really resonating at the doors. And then Thirdly, mixed our candidates better. If you are in spaces in which everyday people can ask you questions, whether they're town halls or their other spaces that are not just wealthy donor events, you're gonna. Become much better at making a case for your vision making a case for bringing voters along to join union vision. So I always I lift up Senator Warren because I think she has I in a lot of what she's rolled out. She has prioritized being really accessible being in public spaces. She has a fundraising strategy that's risky, but different and, and sort of prioritizes people over donors. So you're super passionate clearly what net. How did you get into this? Well, I always joke that I've always been a nerd, I've been in DC for eleven years. I've been working on federal policy for much of it, and some campaign work. I've been organizing with indivisible 's the last two years. I always talk about my, my work, and my training as sort of inside outside I started in the Senate working for then majority leader Reid until a lot of my training has been through the prism of sort of one of the most powerful Democrats at the time when most strategic vote counters of our time. And also someone who admired for the ways in which he defended marginalized people within the democratic caucus, even when it wasn't easy, and twenty fourteen happened. And that was the time that you saw the initial sort of rise of, of unaccompanied minor children, coming to the border from Central American countries, who were fleeing violence, and, and prosecution, you know, all kinds of really, really terrible conditions in their home countries. And folks, had had sort of started to. Challenge, President Obama's record on immigration and on deportations, and that was the spring when he was called the deported chief. And so that was a really I was a critical time for my own learning around. How do you defend these policies? What kind of power have we Bill as a progressive community as a democratic community is people who care about each other, and democracy if we're sort of buying into this frame, that we have to be tough on, on immigrants, or we have to keep this frame, that really hurtful and leaves a lot of people in the margins, and that twenty fourteen mid-term election as many folks remember was a really demoralized oppressed, electorate, you didn't see folks come out, you didn't see folks motivated the lesson there for me is, there's going to be a lot of tough decisions that have to be made folks who have the most power need to understand the pain in need to understand the community of people who are standing in defensive of those who are most hurt. Wow. Well that. That's truly an experience that would inform us down to the core and really understand what our values are. And where do we stand on this issue of demonizing? And then maltreating unaccompanied minors, who are escaping. He have their countries for good reason. Yeah. So you that pinpoint moment in my career about what shapes and informed how I organize? Now back to my nerd question. I, I didn't know it was called organizing when I was younger, but I have been organizing since I was in grade school was really fortunate to be involved in youth development programs. And my parents were hardworking people from Nicaragua and in grew up in rural Nevada, they worked factory jobs watching how hard my parents worked in watching how hard my brother works to provide for his children, is what always shapes the work for me and keeps me in the movement. And making sure that. Yes, we are immigrants in. Yes. We are so grateful to be here. And to be part of the American experiment and story, but we also have a right to dignity injustice and community. I totally agree. We really do. And I think sometimes or often nowadays, rather it gets lost looking into the future. What makes you hopeful absolutely people organizing, especially, when, when you hang out, in DC, you kinda sometimes here, folks, who get really discouraged, I save. Yeah. Forget about it. You know, go out go knock some doors go. Make some phone calls, go donate to some inspiring candidates. Go donate to some organizations that have been in the trenches for a long time. The work is happening. The work is motivating people taking local action in the way that they can write everyone does their part. But all of us doing something about it is, what makes me hopeful and what I've seen not just the last couple years, because the last couple years have been building on top of enormous. Movements that are often, led by black and Brown people, and youth and women, but, like this sort of, like growing of our of our communities, where fighting for justices this growing of ally ship. This is a real force. We have to believe in ourselves. We have to believe that we have power to shape the future. We have power to make the politically impossible possible, because we've done it. And so, that's what gives me hope here here. Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. I feel like this interview is the perfect follow up after our conversation with Brad Fitch of the congressional management foundation. Indivisible has taken all of its best advice and best practices for citizen advocacy and put it on steroids. They are the best example of giving citizens a roadmap to their own agency. We the constituents truly have real power to effect change. And I liked that the only interact with their own members of congress and not anyone else. If you're interested in getting involved and falling the indivisible playbook in your own district to indivisible dot org. There are many opportunities to take action finally, I'm very excited about the unifying indivisible twenty twenty pledge. How can civil discourse help us be the best version of our society on the next episode of future. Hindsight, our guests are Alan Yarbrough and Bill. Stevenson Alan, it's the communications coordinator of the office of government relations of their Piscopo church in Washington DC. He's also the co author of the civil discourse five week curriculum a sort of master class on how to communicate as a society, even when disagreeing Bill is a prisoner in their Piscopo church in signal mountain. Tennessee, where he organized and led the course uncivil discourse. So we'll discourse really as a particular tool for particular type of engagement interaction with one another. 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91: Debt is NOT a Death Sentence with Melanie Lockert of Dear Debt

BiggerPockets Money Podcast

1:17:56 hr | 1 year ago

91: Debt is NOT a Death Sentence with Melanie Lockert of Dear Debt

"Welcome to the bigger pockets money podcast show number ninety one with Melanie Locker. Debt is like our favorite national pastime really so getting out of debt it is like breaking the status quo away so we really do not need to internalize all of this stuff so much if time for a new American dream one that doesn't involve working in a cubicle for forty years barely scraping by whether you're looking to get your financial house in order to invest the money already have or discovering new paths for wealth creation. You're in the right place. This show is for anyone who has money or wants more. This is the bigger pockets money podcast has everybody. I'm Scott. I'm here with my co host Miss Minnie Jensen. Hey Gency Mindy Scott. I am having a fantastic day. It is the day after I returned home from income and I could go on for seventeen hours. About how awesome was. I WANNA say one thing about Finn Con. It was awesome. PT Puts on a great show. I will say that there is a community pass available for people who aren't bloggers podcasters but that want to attend fin con so we will have this in later shows will have a code for people to sign up for Finn Time on the community pass and it's a discounted price for people to just come in hang out with their favorite bloggers and podcasters next year so twenty twenty fin kind is in Long Beach California so I had a great time I saw melanie for like fourteen seconds at Bitcon and it was just it was so amazing to connect with all the people bowl that go to every year and all the personal finance bloggers and the podcasters and things like that so if you're interested. I think you should check it out. It'll be a super a lot of fun but today we are talking to melanie lockers. She is from dear debt dot com and the Lola retreat the CO founder of the Lola retreats in every September she organizes a suicide prevention awareness blog tour because she gets a lot of people who are just despondent over their debt contacting her and she's like you know what this is something that needs to be addressed September's suicide prevention month and she does this whole blog tour and I thought what better time to bring her on than in September so she can talk about her journey with money and I think this is a particularly powerful. Oh episode you know what gets me up in the morning and when I enjoy about this job and doing the bigger pockets money podcast and all that is is because I think that Ed if you can help people achieve financial freedom master their finances gained control and power back in their lives that you just have a better chance to realize your potential be happy do whatever it is you WanNa do leave your mark on the world and that's a mission that I really buy into in get behind on the other side side of that the inability to manage money or not even the inability but just having a large amount of debt and the crippling emotional and and lifestyle burdens Jordan's that places on you can potentially limit to some extent some of the potential that you might have achieved the happiness you can enjoy the freedom control you have of your life and I think that this is the other extreme what Melanie's doing. She's doing fantastic work in perhaps in a more literal sense saving lives with her financial work on her blog at your dad man. I think that that's that's the real power of today's episode is kind of getting behind the scenes of like hey. If forever set riverside reasons you have a large pile of debt or know somebody with large pile of debt they might be going through this and it could be a real burden on their life and happiness and well-being so yeah. I wanted to bring her on to tell her story because she has a happy ending she was able spoiler alert. She was able to pay off her student loan debt and it wasn't an overnight process. He was a slog. She did some side hustle work. She did a lot of like sounds like eighty hour weeks to get this going wing but she was able to do it. She's like I am so much happier now that I have paid off my debt and it's just not something I could have lived with having this horrible debt that forever and as I was at Finn Con- this week I really put two and two together. What I love so much about this show is that I can share all the money stories? My money story isn't like your money. Story isn't like melodies money. Story isn't like Melissa's from last week or Patrice Washington's episode fifty. Everybody has a different money story or and everybody can resonate with a portion of somebody else's money story but we're GONNA hit on a story that you are going to resonate with the most oh my goodness this. This is exactly me and this particular story. Today is just so powerful to tell because I think that it's not unfortunately it is not a unique story the depression and anxiety and just sadness around debt melody locker from dear debt dot com. Thank you for joining us today. Welcome to the bigger pundits gets money podcast. How are you good such for having me? I'm so excited to be here with you. I am so excited to like I said in the Intro I just got back from Vinh Khan and I did not really read into you. I like waved to one day and they never saw you again and how it was here. Gas Super Fun so I'm really glad that we you get to connect today. Did you have a great show. I had an awesome show I did. It was so funny I was gone for a couple of years so it was good to be back and see everyone reconnect yeah yeah so I love your story I don't I I really hate saying that because you don't have like this hey I won the lottery and everything was like it starts off in not an awesome place so I don't WanNa be like Oh. I loved the you had so much adversity but I love your story because of the end because of how you got through it all and so so I want you to tell your story because you are going to tell it a little bit better than me yeah yeah no and I think that's totally reasonable. I think we need more stories that highlight people's struggles. They've went through so yet. It's not happy fun. Yeah I think a lot of people kind of have similar stories to me you know I borrowed eighty one thousand dollars in student loans John's to go to schools most of the student loan debt came from NYU which is my master's degree in performance studies which is fun ours degree. It's pretty useless and I had graduated may twenty eleven. You're not Hetero been making payments on my undergrad loans for five years and had so much hope open. I went on thirty different interviews in New York trying to get jobs at arts nonprofits my career trajectory up to that point and interview after interview after interview didn't pan out and six months after graduation. I still didn't have a fulltime job and I had sixty eight thousand dollars left of student student loan debt and I just realized I could not afford to live in New York anymore and so I moved to Portland Oregon to cut my rent in half and also my by then partner was there at the time so I thought okay well. I'll come move and be with you and stop this long distance Shenanigans and start over and moving to Portland Portland Oregon. I thought it was going to be like a nice fresh. Star in it really just continued to be a really difficult time for me. I moved to Portland in two thousand twelve wealth and all I could find were temp jobs making time the twelve dollars an hour for literally the first year and a half. I was there and that was extremely difficult cult for me because I didn't graduate from my dream school. You know my masters to make ten to twelve dollars an hour and then have all the student loan debt that I felt like I couldn't pay back so so I felt a lot of guilt for going this fancy private school. I felt a lot of shame that I couldn't get a decent job to pay it back doc. I felt so much depression anxiety because like how am I ever GonNa pay this guy. I can't even get a decent enough job to pay back and so I just all of two thousand twelve was just a complete depressive blur for me and just thinking back about it now like so many negative ends and I think a lot of people feel that way about debt and we don't really talk about it enough and really just kind of hit a breaking point towards the end of twenty twelve where I had been crying like every day I felt so stressed out so depressed and I just didn't know what to do. I had been counseling. I kept trying trying different things and then and then I discovered personal finance blogs. You know kind of like a lot of people do I was googling how to pay off debt and came across personal finance blogs and and I found all these amazing stories of people that had paid off debt and I thought wow if they could pay off debt. Maybe I can too but the main difference stat. I didn't see it was known was talking about the emotional relationship to debt known was talking about the mental health issues that I was experiencing because of debt so so in January two thousand thirteen I started my own blog dear debt. The tagline is a blog about breaking up with that kind of based on this concept of dear John Letters were you right break-up letters to debt and that's really been kind of the start of the journey of me saying. I don't know how this is going to happen. I don't know how it's possible but I'm GonNa Pass my dad. No matter what in starting that blog just completely changed my life in every single way possible for the better going back to this period and dozen twelve twelve when you were really depressed with his debt and moving at Orland working those temp jobs were you able to make it by without accumulating more debt or were you were you forced to kind of take on even more consumer debt during that period to get by so actually I did have about ten thousand dollars in savings that I chose to kind of whittled away to survive and continue to pay back student loans so I don't necessarily say that I did everything right. I just like a weird particular way. I did things like technically I could have gone on an income driven repayment plan because I had federal student loans and probably would have qualified for zero dollar payment and I would have not the technically had to make a student loan payment and it would have been fine but because I know math and because I had already calculated that my student loans costing me eleven dollars per day in interest interest I was like if I don't make a payment on these student loans. It's going to blow up an interest me that much more difficult to pay these back and so I made a conscious choice to kind of continue to live off my savings and continue to use some of that savings to pay down debt and so I had these ten to twelve dollars an hour temp jobs and then I was side-hustle has slain seven days a week doing whatever I could from gigs from craigslist from task grab it. I worked as a brand ambassadors. If you ever see those people who who are giving out free coupons at sporting events or grocery stores or concerts or giving freezers sal auto brand ambassadors past weekend at INCON- working the booths that's kind of what I did for my main side hustle seven days a week I wasn't working these temp jobs so yes no. I didn't go into further debt but I definitely a compromise my savings the tuition like you know to continue my my payments in my lifestyle. Okay just gave us a bunch of stuff. I want to unpack a lot in that first of all. You said that your student loans were costing. You eleven dollars a day. Yes on the one hand. That's like almost depressing number number. Two here eleven dollars every day is costing me just in my interest payment on the other hand that I would think would be a huge like fire under my but to start paying those down and Kudos to you to even like figure that out so I want to invite everybody who's listening right now who has loans who figure out what it's costing you every single day and try to come up with a way to at least say on top of the interest rate. If if nothing else well it so good that you say that because actually student loans are different in the interest does accrue daily and so I had done the math and I was like this is what I am paying every every day and it actually made me so angry so angry I was like this is a round trip flight from New York to La every month this is like several concerts. This is going out to a nice restaurant every week. I got so angry that it just felt like I was incinerating three hundred dollars a month and that anger really fueled my repayment like I could have just sued not anger and just and so better and angry but I just was like a half to get out of debt a sap because I'm so mad mad that I'm wasting so much money well yeah and just because you sit there and stew in it. That doesn't get that paid off any faster. That's just more days that you're throwing. I don't WanNa say throwing away eleven dollars but that's more days that's costing you eleven dollars. You also said something like I'm so depressed and nobody's talking about the depression. Let's talk about that for a minute by this. I mean eleven dollars. I don't WanNa pay anything eleven dollars a day super to pay it on student loan debt which seems like I already got the thing. Why am I still paying for for it? That seems like I don't know how to phrase it but like depressing. I guess is and I don't mean to be so flip about that but it it is depressing and I've actually actually did a lot of psychoanalyzing about why super depressing and I think the reason it's so depressing is because when you get a degree especially like a student loan debt in particular. Are you have so much hope about what it's going to do for your future is going to open doors in the lead to new jobs can lead to a better raise. It's GONNA lead to more cloud X Y and Z but instead of the opening up all these opportunities you are literally paying for your past. You are literally tethered to the past and it just kind of feels like you're stuck in this time timeframe of like wow I'm paying for this thing that's already done that. I should have already paid for and that I thought was going to open these doors in the future but instead I have a ball and change changed stuck in the past and I feel like nothing's moving forward anything it's feeling of stuck Nessa feeling of being trapped that can lead to the depression and anxiety because you just feel like like you have no options. You feel like you're stuck. I know people often ask like Oh. How did it affect your social life? How did affect your finances and I just remember for at least a good five years? You know any kind of social activity. Oh do you wanna come to this birthday. Do you WANNA come to this. I would either have to say no or or I would have to just automatically get the cheapest thing on the menu which that's not fun when you're like doing mental calculus like was the cheapest thing on the menu where I don't look at cheapskate or hike in the bill comes with friends. How can I navigate this without being weird kind of all that stuff? Those are those are big questions. You still want to have a social life but you are stuck as you're saying that I'm like Oh. I remember that friends episode where Rachel Rachel and Joey have no money so they go out to dinner with everybody else and they just got salad and everybody else got these fancy dinners and they're like we should split six ways and they're like but all I had was water. No like wait wait. It's Monica's birthday. We'll split it five ways and they're like stop. I can't afford this and it seems like you know if you are saying to a friend I can't can't afford this. Your friend should be like hey don't worry about it. We'll just all split it up between like however. We had things totally but there's this shame like you said there's the shame of. I don't want to say anything because I don't want them to think less of me. Look if you don't have any money spending money you don't have on dinner that you didn't eat isn't going to change the fact that you don't have any money. Yes exactly just GonNa make it worse totally. Did you have peers that graduated with similar levels of student loan debt similar degrees that where you're going to experience with not exactly or maybe maybe yes but the thing is says. I didn't really tell anyone what I was experiencing because I felt so much shame and I felt so alone. It was not until I started the blog. MENA actually opened opened up about my experience that people came out of the woodwork saying I feel the same thing or I have a teaching degree and I have the same thing ivory in the night of the same thing or I have quadrupled the amount of debt and I feel the same thing I have half the amount of debt that you have and I feel the same thing and it wasn't until I personally put my a story on the front line. Did I start hearing from other people because I mean I kind of internalized. That shame is like Oh. This is taboo. This is something we don't talk about and because as you know. NYU Is such a prestigious school I didn't want it to like solely this reputation or like make seem like oh I made a big mistake because then it just made before I even worse does that make sense so I haven't really talked about that a lot with my peers and it wasn't until I started my blog that I had fully understood that wow now I am not alone and here I was beating myself up that I made this big mistake and that I'm so much dad and I feel so awful about it and starting the blog really just navy create a community in realized that there is a community of people out there extremely suffering because of their debt use this word mistake yeah like this. I made this big mistake. Is that how you still feel about it today or is that at the time it seems but that's a difficult question to answer and I only say that because obviously everything that's happened since then with the blog which has been turned into this freelance writing career and kind of these other pass. I have now kind of launched from that blog. I can't say it's a mistake like I've been able to as my friend was so nicely. Put your pain into your passion like you've made a career out of your emotions your pain with this debt so I mean I personally can't say it's a mistake as of right now. If this whole blog career freelance writing thing didn't work out what I say it's a mistake rob ably not fully. I wouldn't say like it was worthless or totally regret it like I loved living in New York it. I loved getting a Master's degree that was always wanted to do. I definitely learned a lot but from a practical standpoint AKA. Would I do it again probably probably not so always kind of hesitate to answer that question because it's like my situation's kind of unique because I was able to pal debt and turned into something else that I can hopefully inspire others others but this was not what had happened afterwards at oh now. I think that's a fantastic response in the fact that you've made something of this is is remarkable all in for maybe maybe putting yourself in the shoes of someone that's going through a similar experience making gonna be able to turn it to send everyone can turn their situation. Make lemonade stuff. What would be your advice to somebody who's considering going down the same path if they're considering going to graduate quit school and especially something in the arts or something that's not immediately profitable? I would really question like what is your future going to look like especially financially because I'll be the first to admit no one could have told me anything like people. Try to talk to me like my parents my friends. Are you sure you want to quit your nonprofit job of across the country like triple net loud. You will try to save things to me like I was like Lila. This is my dream school. I don't don't care so like I totally understand when you're like really stubborn. You're like no. This is what I'm doing him. That was totally me but also you know I think we have this idea Komo. Of course I'll make more money with a master's degree of course going to a fancy school open at murderers of course there's this kind of narrative that like we're paying for opportunities or pain pain for open doors or pain for a higher salary but that's not always the case life doesn't always work out that way and then also just from a practical level like how much of your income com will be going into debt because it doesn't matter who you are but if you have thirty to fifty percent of your income going to student loans like your life is going to be affected by it and then you just have to think about that in the bigger picture I mean yeah I was in my late twenties early thirties paying the majority of this off but even then like all my friends were getting married and buying houses and having kids and having pets and I was at the brokest I had ever been my entire life. I had like lived a better life. When I was twenty you too then I did when I was twenty eight and so that was really difficult for me to be like wow okay I have to like scale back and have a different lifestyle and in living that way for so long does take a toll on your psyche and your relationships both romantically in French fries professionally and I think it's really important to consider all of that and then if you are or were like me or you just like I'm going Outta? What can tell me anything than you just really have to have an open mind and just understand that anything can happen and that if you really do want to get out of debt than is going to take a lot of sacrifice and I I had classmates who had the amount of debt as me or more entered? It didn't bother them and I think I had wished I was that kind of person like Oh. I have one one hundred grand in debt. It doesn't bother me. It's fine but that's just not how am bill so email. It really did bother me and that's why I was crazy about it on that point with with the one hundred grand in debt not bothering what I've noticed sometimes with certain people and I think you're clearly an exception to this is that they will almost like bury their heads in the sand to a certain extent where there are unaware of what their interest is costing them often these student loans are chunked so you've got like twenty student loan debts of or thousand dollars if you have been granted debt or something like that and they're not aware of the various interest rates on that they're not aware of how to get him off utility last episode a Melissa the Romer she we had a situation where she was like. I had to actually call the debt collectors in order to pay off my medical because it wasn't like clear sure how to do this in the first place Monday so I admire the fact that you clearly a proactive about it. Can you tell me about what prompted that yeah and I am so glad glad you brought this up. First of all I would totally like to acknowledge that denial is so comforting and seductive. It's like a a warm cocoon that you can just stay safe in and and I was definitely not immune to the denial trap and in my book dear data also kind of recall the five stages of grief or similar caller Japan off debt like you definitely go that denial and anger embarking acceptance phase and I think they're very similar and so for me I definitely had that denial phases weld so oh. I've told this story a couple of times but when I graduated from N. Y. You probably that first month. I knew I had to get my finances together. I A new that I should kind of get on top of things so I created a mint dot com account actually sing doll my loans and I sink my paltry student income and everything hang and that was actually the first time that I saw the numbers in black and white that you know even though it had been payments student loans for five years from Undergrad and I knew I had borrowed a bunch more. I didn't really I know how much I owed and then I saw oh my gosh still of sixty eight thousand dollars and it was like seen in black and white like oh my God I mean especially compared to my really sad sad. At the time I actually panicked and I like deleted my dot com account and I was like I can't do this right now like let's was just delete this and so that was like denial when I want I just completely deleted my dot com account. I was like I literally cannot handle right now and so I continued to live in denial for a couple of months unlike anyone and denial reality catches up with you eventually and it wasn't until December twenty eleven you know six months after graduation ration- where my student loans had you know the grace period was coming to an end and I still had insecurity fulltime job and I was like okay I I literally can't afford to pay rent and student loans in New York have to make a choice and when you're forced to decide where you're going to live because of your student allowance when student loans start affecting big choices in your life where you should live whether you should get married or not whether you should have kids or not that forces you out tonight real quick so I would say you know that was kind of the train point for me. Out of denial was like Oh man like I had wanted to stay in New York. I wanted to live like thaddeus artistic cool lifestyle in New York and I just couldn't I sobered up real quickly and I was like a his hurts so you kind of the reality catches up with you. Reopen Your Mint Dot com account and stare reality back in the face or what is facing reality Saudi look like for you. I didn't right away because there are too many changes going on like the first step was like actually moving to Portland Oregon and then actually trying to find a job Bob and in those first couple of months in Portland where we're pretty brutal in getting this tempur again actually for a brief period I was on food stamps search was also not fun and so yeah just like the first couple of months about surviving in like adjusting to this new reality probably wasn't until later in two thousand twelve when I had discovered personal finance blogs and then like January twenty thirteen when I started dear where I was like okay and committing to pay off this debt. I've started this blog. I've said no matter what I'm going to pay this off because I have no toys that I start to get get together again. Juries what year was was that I just missed out in the January two thousand thirteen. I started my blog jared dot so took another full basically a year of me just wallowing in my own misery and like feeling stock can feeling like hitting my head against the wall. I don't know what to do. I feel stock entrap anxious and just to that point. I think it's important that we do talk about the mental health health issues because I really believe that the reason I couldn't really do anything in two thousand twelve to move things much forward was because I felt so much shame and depression anxiety. It's like you know there's so many great blog post about here's how to pay off debt. Here's the debt snowball avalanche. XYZ But if people aren't prepared emotionally family or mentally to even look at their debt or address it they're not going to be able to take action because I know personally depression anxiety can be completely paralysing realizing paralyzing and if you're paralyzed you're not going to take action so that's why I'm so passionate about this topic because I really feel like we have to address the underlying issues issues that prevent people from actually looking at their debt and taking action because we all know that the tips are out there on how to actually pay off debt there but why do we not did you. It's because of the behavioral mindset issues okay so let's talk about the mindset issues. Let's talk about these first steps in addressing the underlying yeah like gives us where someone start. Let's say we've got someone listening to this show right now. They are in Melanie twenty twelve fit mode where they're just feeling leagues so much shame and so much guilt and you know what I wanted to say to them. As you are not alone you're not the only person who has debt so hop hop on Melanie site and read her letters to her debt and hear other stories of people that are in the same place. Even if it won't change the amount of of debt you have but knowing that you're not the only one who has that especially when you're with friends who are like I have so much money and I could just go out to dinner and not look at prices. He says like that gets really shameful and that's not the right word because you know something to be ashamed of yet. You have debt. What is it like? Less than one percent of Americans can afford a one thousand dollar emergency bill like they don't have any savings. I can't remember what the number is but it's super super low yeah I think I think only forty percent of people can cover a four hundred dollar emergency in cash without going into credit card debt and I know forty. Four million people have student loans so it's like you're definitely definitely not alone at all and really if you look at the way this country is set up debt is like our favorite national pastime really so getting out of debt is like breaking the status quo in a way so we really do not need to internalize all of this stuff so much in my opinion so you were saying what are some actionable awesome people can take if there were two thousand twelve me so at twenty twelve me did initially was I needed to get to counseling because this was significantly impacted in my life and so I've been in and out of therapy my whole life for various reasons that this was definitely a situational circumstance like okay. My debt is really it is what has prompted me to be in a situation and so they always say accounting's a good idea. If something is really impacting your day to day life and this was like you you know not like Oh. I'm sad for two weeks or like crying. It was like a every day for months sort of thing and so I was like I need help but one of the worst things about being in data's being depressed over your data's. You're like well. How the heck can I afford therapy when I can barely afford my debt and so actually I was so grateful to find a CO worker of mine who had said that he found some affordable counseling through the local graduate school so Portland State University you know they have a graduate counseling program and so these are pretty much counselors in training who are like one semester away from graduating who they needed? They're kind of training hours before they got their license right and so they had like their professor. I guess kind of like behind some room watching that I didn't know about so it can be like a little weird but if you can get over that the sessions were fifty dollars a session because of course on food stamps at the time I negotiated Donna five dollars a session so I was mainly twenty dollars a month for therapy therapy the I highly recommend local graduate schools because it's a win win situation for everyone. The students need training hours. You get someone to talk to. It's usually usually you know significantly more affordable. I also have found my current therapist through open path collective dot org not as cheap but more affordable able I think they have sessions between thirty and eighty dollars a session which I know that might not be cheap to some people but compared to out of pocket which can easily be between Mike Mike one fifty and three hundred session. It's definitely a lot better so I I. Let's let's say that name again. 'cause I didn't type that down. I WanNa make sure we get that. In the this show notes for this show yes open path collective dot org I found my current therapist through their and she's wonderful and it's been great and then also I highly recommend the crisis text line which you can text home seven four one seven four one. I really liked the crisis text line because it's pretty open open ended with the Word Crisis Aka. You don't have to be suicidal. You know I know there are a lot of wonderful suicide resources out there so if you are feeling suicidal there's the national suicide prevention hotline which is one eight hundred two seven three eight two five five if you are feeling suicidal highly recommend talking to them but then there's also people who I feel like I'm in crisis. I'm not exactly suicidal. Who Can I talk to? The crisis. Text Line is a wonderful resource. You can text them at seven some for one seven four one and everything's over tax which I think is wonderful because sometimes you're an emotional state or you're not feeling well. Sometimes it's really hard to even get the words it's out right so if you do overtaxes wonderful they have certified crisis tax counselors to respond to you in kind of help you calm down and provide resources verses in understanding. I know for people who have either maybe never have gone to these resources before wonder like what are they gonNa do you for me because I totally understand what you're in that skeptical state like will what are they gonna do for me. And what I always say is like when I talk to my therapist or anyone that's a professional they can really help you see a different way that you can't see with your own eyes so we're all programmed and condition to think a certain way to behave a certain way given our friends or family the way we were raised and that's just the way we're programmed and in some ways it can feel like we're kind of in a coldest act of like. I'm like a broken record. This is the only thing I can see her do and then my therapist sometimes we'll say certain things and I'm like wow literally I would have never thought about the like the way my brain is programmed. I would have never thought about that and so I think these resources can really provide some outside perspective that you probably can't see and it's not anything against you. Just you know sometimes when we're so in it when we're so close to the issue in when we're so like stuck we just can't even think clearly and so to have someone from the outside kind of help us see. Hey you know you're not in a cul-de-sac. Actually there's this route. There's this route. There's this route and and then also you can make a u-turn. You know there's a lot of different options. How did this manifest itself in your story like did this therapy kind kind of help you arrive at Hamden attack this head on form blog and go after it in starting January shows and thirteen so I would say the the counseling in two thousand twelve really kind of helped manage my data day symptoms of crazy anxiety a lot of crime so I kind of helped me like remember that I'm not an awful person that I didn't just ruin my life by going to Grad School and kind of helps manages day to day emotions in it wasn't really until I found personal finance logs and the end of two two thousand twelve? Did I really kind of get the financial portion of the inspiration to pay off diet but like I said before I feel like if I hadn't done that mental work of in two thousand twelve that I might not have been ready to tackle the financial part but because I had kind of quote done the work in therapy the mental portion I feel like at that time hi when I discovered personal finance logs I was ready to take action and I had internalized so much shame and guilt and depression and anxiety and I thought ready to take action finally got so what was your first bit of Action Yeah. My first bit of action was really starting the blog and writing that I post at it's really funny because you can go to my blog now and it's the first coast is still there had like this awkward anonymous photo of me. I think I had like fifty. Seven thousand dollars left at that point so I had like depleted my savings to pay down some of that debt and the really dramatic silly Aleve I post nude but you can you can also read the pain too and like I don't go back and edited because it's like a history archive to me now and I think it's so funny and interesting and I also want people to go back and be like okay. Yeah you see that I have is like polished career. Now that is paid off my debt but go back to my First Post Elsa January twenty thirteen you can read that it'd be like wow this girl going through something and her dad is like eating her alive and so really just committing to that I post and like writing it to the Internet. Even though like literally had one reader at that point my mom you know I think just like having that public accountability was really important to me and then also I think and I say that that was important for me because I realized just me as a person and doing anything having that kind of outset accountability is really important to me. I wish I was one of these types of people that just had like endless internal motivation but I'm absolutely not as Gretchen Rubin would call it very much obliged sir meaning. I like get a lot of motivation by having external people. Keep me accountable for things so the blog from me really was that and so I would ask yourself like what do I need to be motivated. Is that an external person to keep me motivated. Do I have endless internal amounts of motivation than I could just do this on my own. I'm like what will keep you motivated for me. It was having a community of people having that blog ugh writing updates every single month for as might up and then really it was just about figuring out. How can I cut back in every single way I'm already a minimalist? I ready didn't have a lot of stuff so for me. Frugality was already kind of natural instinct and I didn't really have much just to cut back from and so I think a lot of people in a personal finance journey kind of realize this swear cutting back on coffees and going out. XYZ's really important the people like me who never really had a lot to begin with never really spent a lot of money anyways. I couldn't cut back anymore so I realized literally. My only option is to earn more rushes where side housing came in which is where later becoming self-employed really changed my life because I was able to double my income once I went from nonprofit sector self employment in that really helps pay off my debt and so you know for me. Earning more significantly helped me pay off out far armour than frugality ever did said it's not to say that frugality doesn't have its own virtues that was already kind of like a second nature to me. It wasn't really something that significantly Kelly impacted my life okay. That's interesting because usually when you hear somebody story. Oh I'm in a lot of debt. They have something to cut. I was listen to Dave Ramsey one time and he said he's talking to this person on the phone. He's like in a white. I'm going to take you off the air and we're GonNa talk separately because you don't have anything else to cut because he when he talks to people it's like Oh you can cut this business and she's he's like I don't see anything else. You can cut right. That's like wow you are and what and that literally is the only thing you can cut or or you can grow and yeah when there's nothing else to cut now. It's time to grow so let's let's go back to you. Did this blog post and you said all of a sudden you start hearing read for people. Let's go to the first person to reach out to you to say hey. I'm going through this too. how did that feel and how did you get through that that portion yes so I think I think I think we're kind of alluding to maybe two different things in the reference both of them so like pretty early on I had kind of got comments from people saying like I'm going to the same thing Tang. I'm really depressed about my student loan them so you're talking about this but then on the more serious note probably like a year into blogging I had seen in my google so ana lettuce that someone had googled. I WANNA kill myself because of debt and that just completely stopped me in my tracks is just so completely bulled over with the fact that someone was googling not in finding my blog and so once I kind of felt that I was like Whoa this mental health health debt depression thing has really taken on a life of its own here and from that search term I wrote a blog post as if I were talking to that person because it upset let me so much and that was kind of another impetus to a whole different journey for my blog because I wrote that one blog post is if I were talking to that person Dan and said like I don't know who you are. I don't know what prompted you to write this but please don't do it. It's not worth it. Data's not a death sentence. I published that blog post does not really thinking much about it but because I had talked once again about suicide and debt and depression than sure enough I kept ranking for that search term and I hate to say it but it's been five years and that is still probably my highest ranked search Thomas. I WANNA kill myself because of debt or some kind of variation of of that and I've become kind of this accidental hub of suicidal people who reach out to me and I get emails every single week from people who are suicidal over their debt and I answer every single email and it's so wild because some of the emails I get uh you could just tell people will get a lot of people think like I didn't bank you're rail or I didn't think you were going to respond. I guess I guess I'm real and yes. I'm going Winder respond because you're clearly reaching out like to me. If someone is Glen I WANNA kill myself because of debt and they find my blog and they take the time to Send me an email. That is a call for help as a cry for help. I don't know if I can save their lives. I don't know what's going to happen after email them. I don't know if I have any of the the answers but what I do know is that when you are that depressed that just having someone that can listen to you without judgment is so important and I feel like I try to tell that to other bloggers and podcasters people who have the capacity to engage readers in this way is that the greatest this gift that we can give someone is the ability to truly make them feel heard and seen and a lot of these people feel pushed to the wayside that you know they're losers his third ruining their families running their lives. It's all their fault and it's so sad is a lot of people who are like Oh. My wife has no idea where in this debt or like I don't know how many pay for my child eat next month and it is so devastating and I don't want anyone to end their lives because of debt I mean people should end alive for any any reason but especially not debt that's kind of my crusade for the past four or five years and then four years ago I started the suicide prevention blog tour where I got my personal finance blogger friends together every September which is suicide prevention awareness month to write about this topic so this is the fourth year we're going into it and end. I have a whole suicide prevention tab on my blog dear debt which has the previous blog posts from all the other tours of has all the resources for the national suicide prevention hotline for the crisis text line and you can read so many people's stories and what has been wild about doing the blog tour is that I can see that so many people people have said I've gone through something similar or my neighbor died by suicide. people had said it was because of Datu were people. Come out of the woodwork to share your story and it just goes to show that we think that we're suffering alone with these issues than if one person is brave enough to share their story you can just so how many people come out and feel comfortable sharing there as well and so I try to be a resource for people say that you're not alone and that debt is not a death sentence and that I'm here to listen in and that this is definitely not something you should do and always trying to build up other resources to help these people and I definitely feel like I have some of the mental health resources needed from the financial portion. Maybe they can talk to a nonprofit credit counselor. Obviously I can't necessarily recommend bankruptcy. 'cause I'm not a financial professional national but obviously that's something to consider aside from dying by suicide. There are other options and I feel like we should definitely be supporting reporting this community of people who are suffering I mean I think this is like very powerful in in something that someone who did not have a lot of Mundell it's kind of I'm trying to learn from you and how to like myself in the shoes of folks that have that where it how overwhelming and dire hire that can seem in terms of your overall life outlook. I'm wondering you know I think it's just great work. I wondering once you you find someone who's maybe got student loan plunderer or whatever do you also kind of do any of the actionable tips to help them through at least situations that were similar to yours or is that like you said is that all outsourced source to some of the other professionals that come with that the planners if some student loan debt. I will definitely in part of what I went through what I did so you know definitely tell oh them about income driven repayment plans if they're really truly struggling. I think a lot of people don't know about income driven repayment federal student loans and I think that's a really important Ford option because from loan servicer standpoint and from a bar where standpoint there's many more people that immediately go into delinquency in default when they would technically qualify for a zero dollar repayment under income differing payment and so I read a lot about student loans and credit these days so I have some extra knowledge about this but you you know if your income is truly at the poverty level you can technically have as zero dollar repayment under income driven repayment and be quote in good standing right in every year we certifier incomes. Obviously as your income goes up in you'll start paying again but it's income is truly the issue on your federal student loans. I really employ people to go on an income driven repayment plan. Even though I said earlier that was not the right plan for me because I was scared of interest I did know if things got really really truly bad. It could have gone on that plan and how does your dollar repayment and I still would have been able to eat and pay my rent. That's definitely a resource. I'd like to share with people and and then you know it's tough when I get people who have credit card debt which is made I've never dealt with. I feel like the the most difficult situations ideal with our people that are not in this country three because obviously I know in America if you're in debt you're not gonna go to jail. I don't think the mafia is gonNA come after you you know so you might get wage-garnishment with your student. Loans or your tax refund but I get people from India or Africa or Malaysia Email Mehan I. I don't know they're in some kind of weird. Loan Shark debt situation where it sounds like their lives might endanger because of other people and that's really difficult for me to handle because I obviously don't know what the solutions are there and obviously don't have laws about debt in other countries especially if like may or may not be through an official kind of financial institution. I would say those are probably the most difficult situations for me too jealous 'cause I just don't have the answers but I still try to be a support and a listening ear for people all right hope. You're enjoying the show. We'll be right back. After a word from today's show sponsor in this day and age it can be so hard to find time to sit down and learn. It's not easy when there are so many things competing for your attention. 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Apr Free by going to our special link Zippier dot com slash BP money. That's Z. A. P. HE I e R Dot com slash. BP Money for your free fourteen day trial Xabier Dot com slash EP money okay before we get back to your story. I want to just give some. URL's in some links to some of these things that we've been talking about you said that you have a suicide prevention blog tour that goes on every September. What is the link that people can find that on your website people can go to dear dot dot com forward slash suicide hyphen prevention there they will find all the resources that I typically include as part of that black tour which has some of the resources they've mentioned here today like open path dot org the crisis text line the national suicide prevention hotline talking to someone from a national nonprofit foundation for credit counseling and as well as all the blog posts and yeah I definitely they recommend people go there if they're they're looking for resources both financial or mental health okay perfect and we will include all of these links in the show notes for this episode which can can be found at? WWW DOT bigger pockets dot com slash money show ninety one in before we kind of move into the famous four I was hoping we could finish out awesome here story and hear about how you personally managed to pay off your student months. Yes good question so I know I had kind of talked about how I had really hit. The cutting back threshold pretty quickly my debt repayment journey where I was like okay cut a few things out but I really hit the plateau of like okay unless I starve myself or move back in my parents. There's nothing for me to cut back on and so I realized that earning more was really kind of the only way that I could truly make the progress that they wanted my debt repayment and so I was making ten or twelve dollars an hour literally for the first year and a half I was in Portland and then I finally found the nonprofit job literally two years his after graduation in May two thousand thirteen as a nonprofit events in communications coordinator which is quite funny because now doing mostly events communications on my own own but I got that job in May twenty thirteen making thirty one thousand dollars which the amazing amount of money was a significant increase from sixteen to twenty thousand dollars which is what I was making the previous two years and at the time my rent was four hundred dollars. I split a studio apartment with my partner and I did not have a car. I did not have health insurance. This was pre affordable care act so there was no penalty and then I literally walked biked everywhere and I didn't really go out in so my expenses pretty minimal. I didn't have any pets which I really wanted a pet. Eh expense pretty minimal. I was very lucky to live in Portland. Sheriff's Studio for four hundred dollars ends then increasing my income of thirty one thousand I was like okay. I'm doubling down on my repayment now that I'm making more money and then kind of right at the height of all of my side hustles with my blog I realized that all of these other people in the blogosphere were also getting side hustles as a freelance writer and I thought we people are getting paid right and I fought have a pretty useless master's degree but if I learned one thing as part of my master's that was too right and so I thought I would love to not be working here there and everywhere all over Portland Oregon especially when I don't have a car and it rains nine months out of the year I would love to just be the comfort of my own home doing side hustles so so I started pitching other blogs about writing and I got my first writing GIG and then to make a long story short a year. After I got got that nonprofit job I was making it about the same amount of money side hustling as I was my day job ins. I was making pretty like a lot lot more money than I ever had and so that was obviously helping my repayment. I was putting more money towards debt than ever and then. I thought if I'm making the same amount of money on aside as Anna's my day job if I free up these eight hours per day I'm sure I'm going to make more money and that was a really difficult decision to leave my job because I had had waited two years to find stable employment with benefits and it's like I still had forty thousand dollars in debt at that time and it's like. Are you nuts to quit this job that you've waited so long to get and I just knew that I was going to make more money. If I quit and sure enough I did so I quit to essentially do events and communications. Did you quit. I I quit my nonprofit job as events communications coordinator pretty much to be events and Communications Coordinator for Myself Way July twenty fourteen July two thousand fourteen. I quit that nonprofit job and I worked as a freelance writer and I also did events with financial brands so oh I have a colleague Tania Rapley I from my tab finance. We've done some other events with brands and bloggers and I had mostly been writing for other financial blogs is our banks are fintech companies so that first year I was able to double my income from thirty thousand to sixty thousand and to be able to w income and still keep your rent at four hundred dollars. Yeah I was able to kind of increase my payments two to three thousand dollars a month which is insane but like I said my rent was four hundred dollars. I did not have car. I do not have health insurance so those are kind of like the main expenses while the people have an so doubling my income just changed my life and you know I'm a lot of people talk about the risks of self-employment and I definitely don't want underplay that but for someone like me who literally I had only worked in nonprofits on profits before that and my highest salary up today at that point was thirty eight thousand like the most I'd ever made my entire life was thirty eight thousand dollars and is suddenly you might be making sixty because of self-employment like some employment singlehandedly helped me get out of the low nonprofit pay trap and really opened up a lot of doors for me and so the first year I made sixty thousand I think the second year I made eighty thousand and he was at second year twenty fifteen by December twenty fifteen had paid off all of my debt and you know it was so great because I had started my blog in January two thousand thirteen and I was making I think twelve dollars an hour at the time and I said Ed I'm going to pay off this debt in four years. I don't know how has given my current reality. There's no way this is possible but somehow it's going to happen and I was actually able to pay pay it off in three from when I started my blog the whole journey really was like off and on for nine years and I paid off the majority of the sixty eight thousand dollars in four and a half breath years so there's a lot of different timelines going on here at the same time. This is outstanding remarkable hustle in work ethic and the fact that you're spending so little little and just continuing to stay disciplined on that while you attack your loans is just outstanding one question I have is. How many hours would you say you were putting in in a given workweek week between Your Day job and your side hustling while you're getting your side hustle this income stream that kind of propelled you out of student loans off the ground? Yeah I can tell you very clearly earliest I would wake up and work from six. Am to about eight thirty and I will leave at eight thirty and I would work from nine to five. I would come home from at at five thirty would have dinner and from six to midnight be working again and I did that during the work week and then I did a lot of brand Ranna Bassett or work on the weekends. That's where a lot of the concerts in the sporting events happen being a brand Bassa was my main side hustle over the years so they had different hours. Sometimes it'd be in four hours on a Saturday or twelve hours on a Saturday or a couple of hours here and there I I literally worked seven days awake probably for close to five years and it was incredibly don teen and difficult. I don't necessarily recommend it because it definitely did did take a toll on my mental and physical health. Obviously I'm very happy to be on this side of the spectrum. Now I'm free and I can enjoy all of the fruits the labor and have been debt free ever since then. It's been great. I just WANNA dive into this. I think it's so critical understand is is you just don't go from making thirty thousand dollars to sixty thousand dollars a year without and I think some sort of like what you just described their I every single person who has a story in some capacity where their income being dramatic change like like yours did has gone through this on our show so far I don't I can't think of a single example someone someone who made it a similar percentage increase without this kind of slow going through and like how did you feel during that I guess that period I felt exhausted all of the time it was exciting because you know to go from a place where you're on food stamps making ten to twelve dollars an hour and you feel like you're not getting getting paid what you're worth and you feel like you made it a bunch of mistakes to finally enable to make money that felt really great and exciting but it's also exhausting because we're human beings and we're only have a finite amount of energy and time and so I definitely felt myself getting more clumsy more tired sometimes times having like a shorter fuse because I was so tired and definitely impacted my relationship at the time you know it was tough because he was not paying off debt like Islas and and I don't have much time for you. It was difficult so you definitely could have an impact on so many different facets of your life but it's really about taking risks and knowing that something is going to suffer like you can never put in so much energy like as as you said you can't make that much of an increase your income without some part of your life. Getting sacrificed is just not in a way I really like that you didn't just sit back and whatever and it reminds me of a couple of people that we've interviewed previously on this show Patrice Washington was on episode fifty us us at Patrice. She's fabulous the part of her story that I just it sinks into my head so much and I'm so impressed by is her husband. Gerald was a real estate broker making like a million dollars. A year lost everything in the housing crash of two thousand eight and then said well. I've got to put food on the table. I'm going to go work at Taco Bell and he did working at Taco. Bell is not a glamorous job despite what Pala Pant from afford anything it isn't working in food service you come home smelling like the food that you're making all day long but he did it because that's what you do you pull yourself up by your bootstraps and you slog through it and it's not a lot of fun but you gotta eat and so that's a really great episode to listen. Listen to when you're looking for another I'm looking for somebody who's going through this to patrice Washington episode fifty can be found at bigger pockets dot com slash money show fifty and nick lober from side-hustle nation shared a bunch of different side hustles with us on episode twenty eight and maybe what melody is saying being in that she became a freelance writer isn't something that you want to do or feel comfortable. Doing Nick has what one hundred fifty or five hundred episodes a different side hustles on his podcast and he has a website is it side-hustle dot com or side-hustle nation dot com get sad hustle nation side hustle and so I don't think there is a side hustle for you. You'll read through all of these and say nope. NOPE nope. Yes I can do that. That would be my thing. There is somebody who will pay you to do you something that you are good at you feel comfortable with Kadduh on the side and could still make money to throw at your debt so I just wanted to get those out there before we move on and it also does recommend people try different side hustles to whether you think you can do them or not because there's no better way to learn things on the job then a side hustle like doc. I didn't know what I was doing as a brand Bassett at first I was like oh it's just talking to people I can talk to people Allen extrovert freelance writing. I mean had some writing skills but yeah it's not like a real job where you need to have a formal resume in ten years of experience you know side hustles. You can just kind of figure out on the job if it doesn't work out then not going to be the end of your life so so just use it as a time to learn more things. Try Different things out one last question before famous for here. What did you do once? You've paid off your student loan debt in terms managing your money. How did you begin investing accumulating yeah yeah so I definitely had a plan for what I was going to deal with? All of those four figure payments once I was debt free and so it was really about building my emergency fund backup starting to actually invest. I do think I made a mistake. I hadn't really fully invested until I was debt free which I paid off my when I was thirty one so I was already quite behind so that's you know I don't necessarily recommend that for other people but really it's just been playing catch up with my savings and investments investments who kind of rerouting that money towards those things and also what had kept me going when I was paying off debt so miserable was creating this debt Free Friedrich List so like when I was like Oh my God i have so much debt fatigue. I've been paying for years and years and years like what am I doing. I just kept thinking of what's my life going to look like once I pay off my debt. I did not like living in Portland Oregon. It does rain nine months out of the year and that had a significant impact my mental health. I didn't like the city very much but I knew it was gonna be way more affordable than moving back to. La which is where I'm from where I wanted to be and so I made a conscious choice to stay there so on my free dream list. I was like I'm GONNA move back to La. I'm going to get cats. I'm going to take my mom to Italy and you know what I'm so happy to say that I've able to do all those things since paying off my debt and I have switch more appreciation to be in this one bedroom apartment now in La that I can afford easily on my own I have to baby kitties miles Bologna's who I love so much ads and I took my mom to Italy refers time going to Europe and so to be able to like have those things that I kept in my mind like this is what my life is going to look like when I pat de and be like this is the carrot that's driving me. That's keeping me motivated and then to accomplish those things and just have much appreciation. You know that's so great so all all that to say like yes I have continued to save and invest and been quote catching up so to speak you know from paying off all that debt but also used it to enhance my quality of life life significantly and that's been just in the best part of it. That's awesome. I Love I love everything about that. I love that here's what my life's GonNa. Look like. Here's the carrot it for this. When a grind grind grind granite and now you've realized it and are enjoying all decided I love it? That's great that is fantastic sick okay so this is melanie locker at from the deer debt blog. We've got all these links to your suicide. Prevention blood toured the suicide prevention hotline's all of those things will keep in our show notes again. You can find those Ed bigger pockets dot com slash money show ninety one okay melanie. It is now that time of the show the famous for these are the same four questions and one command that we ask of all of our guests. Are you ready Okay S. What is your favorite finance book? Look at money by Christiaan. Oh that's a new one. Get money by kristen want okay. Why do you like that book? She's just so funny and it's so direct and it's it's a very actionable book to kind of get your finances together and a lot of different ways and it's totally not boring all right. I'll check it out. What was your biggest money mistake and this might be a wish to see what you say this one I would say my biggest money mistake exit of two of them just kind of like two of them a number one? I did not save retirement when I was paying off dead and so you know I paid off my dad at thirty one and I'm behind number two because I was in the nonprofit right sector for so long I had never asked for a raise because I just told myself nonprofits have no money and so why would I even ask so. Those are two pretty costly costly mistakes. Don't pull me. I think those are great mistakes and I bet it's also very interesting that you did not that. You said like we discussed earlier. In the show hey wasn't it wasn't even the student loans and it was not saving for retirement while paying off which I think are very controllable things after you. Do you know the best saving for retirement wild paying off debt story that I have heard is from Craig Curl Up. He was on episode so thirty five he works here bigger pockets. He came out of school with what eighty five thousand dollars in student loans at he paid the minimum on every single one while he got a little bit of work experience he came and started working for us. He learned house hacking where he bought a duplex and rented out one unit and lived in the other and then while he was living living in the other he would rent out the bedroom and sleep on the couch so that he could generate all this cash he lived there for year jumped into the next duplex six and now I think he has does it does have to do no. That's use got he's got three properties. He does but one one duplex. The next property he bought was a five bedroom bedroom two bath house which is a weird configuration. If you have that many more bad it sat on the market for a while he was able to get a good deal he he lived in this was located in a city that didn't have occupancy limits so he lived in one bedroom and rented out the four so five unrelated adults but that's okay in that city city and so he made a lot of money during that as well and didn't he pay off all of his dead and like one big check after he had these three properties that he was renting out out and his story is really really interesting before I heard his story I would have been on your page melanie you don't save for retirement you pay off all your debt and then you can start saving for retirement and he framed it in a different way and was able to generate enough money that he can live off of and that was whole salary goes to his debt and it was just a different way to look at it and they're really enjoyed that story. So that was episode thirty five of the money podcast love really great interesting story okay so what is your the best piece of advice for people who are just starting out and that's kind of like ambiguous are they starting out on their payments or any other starting out in life in general before before they can get to college. What are you go? I'm going to assume that their end at lake me for watching and listening to this episode and so I would say the very first her step that you have to do is to get out of Nihil and know your numbers so really go to the international student loan data system and really look at how much debt you go to annual in your credit report dot com see how much credit card debt you have really lineup every single loan amount that you have as well as the interest rate and write it all down. It's not fun. It can be probably the most difficult part of this debt repayment during the numbers in black and white but it's really important that you actually know how much you owe and then also oh calculate how much you're spending daily on interest because that could really light a fire under you to be like oh my gosh. This is just how much I'm throwing throwing away every single day so I was those those two things that is great advice many. How many times have we asked this question? And what percentage would you say. It's some it's some variant of know your numbers Matra Finish position tracker spending those yeah. I'M GONNA go at least fifty or seventy five percent of the people. Oh who who do this say track. Your spending is a huge one know your numbers. Whatever your numbers are no that because if you can't change like with the debt that's that's not GonNa Change just because you're not looking at it? You're spending. Is it going to suddenly get better unless you're looking at it. No you know what you can do to change those numbers totally anyway. I think it's it's just so telling and it's like if you listen to this show and you've made it through ninety one episodes and you haven't tracked. You're spending or map that your financial position. It's it's time to do that because you're not gonNA make. Now's your time without knowing your numbers yeah all right. What is your favorite joke to tell it parties? I don't know if I have an answer to that. I feel like I'm definitely a person that makes a joke kind of depending on the actual conversation. Does that make sense like I'm not a big lake. Here's a joke out of my pocket sort of person. I'm definitely more of a person like in a natural conversation. I'll say something silly to bed with us. From Cat Juckes said you finally got your two cats. I have a really incredibly bad joke. That's good got excels at incredibly bad jokes where two cats go on vacation nowhere Mianwali title bad. I never lived with these. That's great bad. There's a can't channel at work. I'm get it. I'M GONNA put in our office chat. I love that I love that okay. Melanie tell me where people can find out more about you. People can find me at deer dot dot Com as well as at Mani Locker on twitter at Monte Locker on instagram and also I have a women and manny retreat they can find me at Lola retreat DOT com. That's awesome. I think the low retreat is always scheduled for a weekend weekend that I'm already doing something but I need to get out to the lowly retreat because I have heard so many good things about it. Yes do talking to women who are in the same position as you about finances is I don't want to Scott's wonderful and not talking smack about Scott but there are some men who were like oh just stewart. Don't worry your pretty little head about it or whatever and it's really powerful to hear from other people who are exactly like you which is hey kinda. Just like your debt. Yes Zakat. Could Oh wow this was amazing. I don't know where I came across your name. I'm like I gotTa have Melanie on the show. 'cause this because it's it's September and I always I've never actually participated but as you're sitting here talking to me I'm like Oh my God. I have to write a blog post now for fifteen hundred days to put up to be on the suicide prevention to are just just a tips. I'm getting I'm going to lead to the show but I'm also going to link to you all the other people just the tips that I'd getting like get a debt counselor counselor a therapist. I don't know what the right way to phrase. It is like a mental therapist financial therapist too by the way I have resources. How do you really that'd be great financial therapist but also get somebody to help you like like a psychiatrist or a therapist or something and here's here's the thing it's not something to be ashamed of but so many not all of it? You don't have to wear a t shirt that says hey I see a therapist every Tuesday it means you're being proactive to. I don't even know why there's a stigma to be honest because it means like oh you're judging me for actually taking care of okay. Oh I have a broken arm. I better not do anything about that because that's embarrassing. Whatever it gets fixed move on a question here which I'm not sure how to do you think it's different for men versus women therapy medication are therapy industry? I do think there is a difference in I think that because of toxic masculinity the way we condition manner our culture I think men are so conditioned to not talk about their feelings that it can be kind of a lot of UNCRAMPS that eggs so to speak in therapy. I think I think men especially should go to therapy because well first of all to go back to what I just said. I think everyone should be in therapy regardless airless of where they're at because I think there's a this belief that you should only go to therapy if you're struggling or if you're dealing with stuff and honestly you should go for preventative maintenance. Whether you're going onto something or not number one number two. Everybody needs a third party to speak to because the thing is is like he can all talk to our friends and family about issues but there are going to be biased and so like for me. It's great to have a third party perspective where she doesn't have an investment in my life like she's not going to be biased. You be like oh well. I don't WanNa hurt his feelings or this is what I think is best remounting. She's my best friend like she's going to be like like my therapist. Calls me out on my I stuff and at first I didn't like her. I was like I think you need a little bit of sugar in my coffee like your little. You're alive but actually it was like no. She's actually the the type of person I need she. She calls me out in like like yeah. This you know I think we all need someone that can call us out on our stuff but without like hurting in our feelings and give us a third party perspective so to that end. I think man who maybe don't have the same kind of support systems as women do or at least as comfortably it's great and the demand that I have talked to our therapies seem so much more in touch emotionally aware than other men that toxic masculinity thing that's it's really great and we did as a woman and I'm talking to a woman I listen to this as more for women but you're absolutely right that toxic masculinity thing well well. Here's here's the thing it hurts men and women because it hurts men because men I mean I'm totally hyper. Generalizing by the way in general men don't have the same kind of friendship networks that women do where they can just talk about anything and everything I think there's a lot of expectations that they need to be strong. They should not have feelings. They should not be emotional. I'm bottling all of that up in my opinion is what leads choose some of the violence in the outbursts and misogyny that we deal with and so it literally the hurts them but it also hurts women so it's like if we can create a culture where it's okay for men to talk about their feelings and get help. I think it'll be significantly you better for men on their own to help themselves and then also their relationships with Jewish in it really is I mean Scott. It's it's okay to have feelings. It's okay to be unhappy about something or thad about something that happened. You know I'm just always like this. Though I always like I'm going to ask leading personal finance questions and then periodically go on mild read about a topic that I feel particularly strongly about. Ask My state of at times. Yes I think that's got actually is a little more in touch with his not in touch with his feminine side so much as to yourself south. That's exactly you. He's going to do what he wants to do. He's not GonNa let toxic masculinity affect the fact that he feels sad today. He's got a deal today and it's it's okay he will embrace that I just GonNa stop digging that hole but yeah but but as but just to kind of bring it back and reframe it to both genders I think both both men and women can investigate the ways that we have been conditioned to be the way that we are in the way we respond things and as a leg. Am I really like this or was was I just born in a culture and condition to be this way. You know what I'm sane. Yeah like for example women are always you know kind of conditioned to be the the prize of a man's affections or attention or wanting to be beautiful because it's the type of currency like we're not born that way. That's the way we are conditioned and so whenever these kinds of thoughts are like oh the that's actually not the way I was born. This is some that I'm experiencing. That's a great way to wrap it up much much more eloquent than I did so thank you have a guest and I'm not okay from episode so ninety one of the bigger pockets money podcast. I am Andy Jensen. He has got trench and she is Melody Lockard. Thank you so much for sharing with us today. Melanie thank you for having

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265: The Kazoo Came First

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265: The Kazoo Came First

"Hello and welcome to dear. John or is i think of a dear john and hank it's a podcast two brothers answer your questions. Suffice bring you all the week's news from both mars and fc wimbledon. john this week katherine asked me. If i could clear the table and i i looked at her and i said i bet i could if i got a running start. I mean the reason. That's a funny joke is because couldn't i've seen you. Jim picturing my shins hitting the table. Right on the look on my face. As i did it. I mean you couldn't clear the table in either way like you couldn't jump over it nor could you jump its length. No i definitely. I could get up onto it. I bet you could get up onto it belly. I yeah what i mean. Isn't that what jumping slide on your belly over it. And then you land on your hands on the other side before we get to questions from you our beloved listeners. We do need acknowledge something. That is always true when we record this podcast but is perhaps more relevant than the average week. Which is that we record this a week before. It comes out so as we're recording this. It's monday november second. You are living in monday. November ninth or later a A world that is potentially quite different from the world in which we are living and not only because afc wimbledon play their first game. Back at plough lane tomorrow. God really. Yeah wow it's a big day for you john. I know i am very excited to to watch it on my phone. I wish i was going to be there in real life with my my dad. Also your dad and other friends and family and and our kids and everything and it was going to be amazing but not no. Yeah so so. Usually we are unstuck in time when we like it that way where where we can sort of separate ourselves from the goings on of that particular moment but in this situation your world is different than our world. Hopefully like right now. We are dealing with uncertainty. Hopefully you are not dealing with more uncertainty than we are dealing with right now and hopefully it's less but we don't know so we are going to record this podcast unstuck in time except for that little note right beginning with this question from mckenna which is a real evergreen question. Thank you for sending in one mckenna that we could answer at any moment in human history. this is the question. John and hank help five exclamation points. How do i get better at communicating my feelings to question marks. I'm a teenager exclamation point. It's hard exclamation point advice on this subject dube's or otherwise very much appreciated exclamation point mckenna. What i love about your question is that it captured something. That's how effectively. It communicates your feelings exactly. He captured something fundamental about teenage life. Which is that. Essentially everything ends with an exclamation point or a question mark. Yeah it is a time of life that at least for me was defined primarily by exclamation points and question marks. Yeah that's what they should call it Or or anam understands that. There are three stages of life kid teenager and adult. Yes same thing as my kids. Were like that you will often say i'm not a teenager yet. Like you gotta win to go bird. There's more kids than just this kid. Yeah but there is something to it rate like there is something about adolescence. that's different. Yeah yes yes. I i i think mckenna. There's a possibility that you were never good at talking about your feelings. It's just that he just didn't have as many before. It's just that now for the first time in your life you want to be good at it. Which i i would say is excellent progress. Yeah you're aware like like. I remember being a young kid and having deep emotional experiences but they were so disconnected from language that it didn't even really occur to me that i could share them and then when i did try to share them both like my literal vocabulary but also my vocabulary in the sense of like being able to even understand what i was feeling Were pretty limited. And so i really struggled to express myself emotionally when i was young kid and then when i was a teenager i suddenly a like had really really intense overwhelming feelings. All the time and be. I had an expanded vocabulary but i also had like the feelings were so intense. It was almost like. I couldn't exaggerate them. You know like. I said right if i said something like. I've never been this happy. I meant it. I've never been this scared. That was also true. Yeah and i think that you hit on an important thing there which is that it is hard to understand our feelings. It's hard to. It's hard to understand where they're coming from. It's hard to understand what they mean to have any feeling of control over them and so we can't understand something you can't communicate about it and so i think of like that's a really important part of the desire to communicate. Your feelings is also the systems that you are creating right that i am still creating that i used to understand how i am feeling which is a complicated thing rand changes a lot moment to moment but also can be very big and but i i also don't always have a super great grasp on people. Ask me all the time. How i'm doing and i'm like i'm saying i check right now. Thanks i'd rather not look right. And i don't want to consider too closely but i also think that there's something magical and wonderful about having a name for something that you didn't know how to name or finding language for an experience that you didn't know you could ever have language for because it helps you to hold it in grasp it and it helps you to to share it so mckenna. When i think about like what worked for me. When i was younger about expressing my feelings i think about two things one writing. Or you know other forms of what's called self expression Because yeah a lot of times like you can write your way yup or talk your way through to the feeling and then the second thing is that when you can't sometimes you can have art or something else do a little bit of that work for you so you can say. I don't really know what i'm feeling. But i think if you read this book it might help you understand where i'm coming from Or if you listen to this song it might help you understand where i'm coming from now. That doesn't always work. I had this image in my mind. That whenever i played a song for someone when i was sixteen years old get exactly. Yeah i actually. I think i lost a girlfriend over that very thing once i was like. Wow i love this song. I think it says a lot about our relationship and she was like. I think that you are wrong. Yeah well there's no pressure quite like someone saying. I really want you to listen to this song. So that you can understand how i feel about you and then watching you actually now mccain another. I've talked my way through this on on back to my original thought which is try to write it down and don't tell them to listen to a song told to do on their own time right. Yeah well and also. I think that like you know art. Art is always interpreted in different ways but different people but But it is also a way to communicate something that is impossible or very difficult to communicate so i think i think it can be a very good tool can also be a good tool for even understanding where where you are at because otherwise it may not be easy to understand a feeling that you're having indeed i mean look mckenna. I'm forty three years old and yup talking right now. I realized that. I have no idea what i'm feeling except that it's a lot Yet mostly up in my upper teeth for me. It's right behind my solar plexus. Yeah and it's a mix of the dawn's are going home and the void anyway. Here's another question is from connor. Who asked steer hankins john. Could the dinosaurs have seen the meteor ultimately meteorite. That killed them before it will like you know killed them or would it have gone from the atmosphere the ground so fast that they would have died before seeing any fireball if the latter is not how you'd want to go out corpses and comets connor no connor. No i do not want to go out in a mass extinction event. That's one of my number one goals. Yeah yeah i wanna. I wanna have a sense of continuity of the continuance. Yeah of the human story. I've always felt like there is nothing in this world as narcissistic as believing that the end of your world means the end of the world from clay i wa- i hadn't even occurred to me that someone could feel that way. I want to live in the first one one millionth of one percent of human history. That is my goal connor. And i am trying to weave in accordance with that value hank the dinosaur see what was coming. Many many of them did the all the ones that did didn't didn't last the day probably right. Light travels very fast So if you could see something you will see it before it kills you. If it's bright enough. I guess would be the thing if if if if it's coming from space like if it's coming rhett there's the number of things that can kill you that you don't see coming through a yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. I would have been a big bright fireball. In the sky they would have seen it explode. It probably exploded before it hit the ground so we have this image of like a giant rock like running into the earth but there's probably a series of explosions where it sort of like rammed into the atmosphere so hard that it exploded before it hit the actual ground and they would have been able to see that and then they would have died in a number of ways soon after if the if it was visible to them. yeah shockwave. they'd probably would have been like a a ten point one magnitude earthquake. So that's like bigger than anything that we've experienced in human timescales. Keep going this is doing wonders for my anxiety. Give me more so like the wind would have been so big that it would have picked up anything anything anything that wasn't nailed down but nothing was nailed down back then so anything and then it would have taken that and put it like on the front of this shockwave. That that stuff would hit the dinosaurs physically So we haven't talked about like these big shot waves as if they are a wind and yes even the pressure of the shock. Wave can kill you easily. It's it's also the stuff that is carried along in the shockwave. So even if it is the shockwave isn't isn't enough to on. its own. Kill you the stuff that's carried and it would be with with each level. I just feel worse and worse. Hank what what else yet. Well i mean earlier than that. There's a very high likelihood that before the wind before the earthquake. You'd get thermal radiation sudas. The heat infrared radiation would make it so hot that everything would catch on fire. So that would that would be like the first thing would be the heat. That's like seconds like you see it and then like seconds later screen you'd get the i. r. yeah and then minutes later would be like the objective falling down from the sky and like an hour later would be the shock waves traveling at the speed of sound rather than the speed of light right. Yeah and then if but there are also. Interestingly if you're further away and you can't actually see the impact you wouldn't be able to see an effective this before the sort of like planet-wide catastrophe of the dust. That would make it cold for a very long time that actually caused the extinction not it wasn't like the impact that caused the extinction. It was the writer was the two years of years of of darkness. Yeah right what you would see before. The years of darkness would be meteors and meteorites. Oh but not the one because what happened was a huge amount of like stuff got thrown up into the sky. Much of that stuff never fell back down. That's how big the impact was it. Like went off into space but much of it did fall back down and so you would see that as meteors in meteorites potentially very very far away. Wow so that would be weird if you were dinosaur. It'd be like wow. That's quite a meteor shower like to the extent that it's like way more than a meteor shower and much bigger rocks than in a typical meteor shower. So it'd be brighter. Beloit dhs to call them. Mostly this all makes me think that like humans in the middle ages who were very scared of comments were onto something. It was something of a well-founded concern. Yeah it was anything. New in the sky is is concerning but it turns out that it wasn't just like like oftentimes it's like oh a new thing. I'm concerned about it. But then it's like oh a new thing. I'm concerned about it. And it just by chance turns out to be something of concern and that is the case with impact. There's potential impact or great. Will that really. That really helped me hank. Thank you for that exhaustive of the murderous events that occurred before the two years of darkness that resulted in many murderous events. I think fifty years from now we will be able to detect and deflect any potential asteroid impact great any potential expert of likes earth damaging asteroid impact so like like. We just need Who we just need to dodge fifty years of bullets. Yeah on on like tens of millions of your timescale which is timescale that impacts happened. Then i think that's a pretty. We've got a pretty good chance next. Question comes from taylor. Who writes dear. John and hank i'm a year eleven history student tayla. You're not allowed to brag about being from the united kingdom and australia by saying things like i'm a year eleven history student okay. So i'm going to rewrite your question for you. tail hope. this is personal dear. John and hank. I'm in eleventh grade. And i've been watching many of john's crash course videos. They're very helpful by the way. Thanks so much anyway. In the videos you have a segment where john mystery. Documented has two guests who wrote it and if he guesses correctly he's fine but if he guesses incorrectly he gets shocked with an electric pen. My question is where you really shocked with an electric pen. And so what did it feel like tayla this. I've seen this question. Yeah like yeah fifty times in the last week we get this a lot but like recently. It's like there must be some meam out there that i don't know about something went viral somewhere and because i've been asked about it every time i speak to a group of high school history students on zoom or whatever It's it's the first question. The answer is yes. You could get these little shock pens anywhere. When we were kids they were very popular gag gift. Yeah and we did have a shock. Then there were a couple episodes where like we couldn't find it or we left it somewhere and we didn't have it on set and in those occasions you can sort of tell that i'm faking Interesting but almost all the time we use the shock. And i did really shocked myself when i got an answer wrong. I sound as has been proven in many psychological studies that it did not make me better. Guess i'd document that made me words. How's it made me very nervous. Yup but we did. We did have a shock bend. It did not hurt much. I have to say it's it's very. It was like an exaggerated version of. And you've never had this experience taylor. Because i think you live in australia. But it was an exaggerated version of when it's cold outside and you build up static electricity and then you touch another. I don't know a wall or something and you have that like electric shock. It was sort of like the biggest one of those you've ever felt but it was smaller than any proper right experience of being shocked. Yeah i remember week on tour. Had shocking device was at. That was a different thing. I think it was a different thing. Yeah i can't remember. We did we had like a game where we like if we lost the thing. Then we'd the person get shocked and it was fun but yeah we it was okay. We've had so many dumb bits on tour. Now that i think about it we also a project for awesome like last year. I got a dog shock collar or two years ago and actually got myself shocked for the which is this was the worst thing it was like trivia about the companies that i run in the people who work for them which is like the thing that would stress me out the most wrong right when it's like you don't know that rachel has a dog and i'm like no my employees at all of you ever seen that. Snl sketch where it's like for five dollars name Justin bieber's girlfriend. Yeah thousand seven and eric. Selena gomez had like okay now for five hundred thousand dollars. This is your best friend. Jeff and this is his girlfriend of seven years. What's her name is a bad is a bad sign. Megan dear john. And hank. I'm finally living in my own apartment and it's nice overall but it's weird making my dinner in eating it alone and i'm kind of super tired of just scrolling as i eat but it feels empty and eerie. Just eat all by myself without any noise or anything. How can i spice things up here. Penguins megan music. Oh so you've got to get really into music you think so. No i i think that of the two of us on the only one who's lived alone is that correct. I mean basically. Yeah i've lived. I've lived in an apartment by myself. But i always like had neighbors that were on the level of like seinfeld. Okay where he can walk into their place. When did you live in an apartment complex. Had neighbors on the level of seinfeld. Though when i first moved to missoula okay but okay all right a little bit but you were in. Yeah you weren't like. I have lived by myself for a long time yet for years and years and in my experience there a great things about living with yourself in there challenging things and the single most challenging thing for me about living by myself was eating dinner. What i found was that if i ate dinner heck. I don't know if you know this is about me. Among the many weird writing jobs. I had early on in my professional life. I was a reviewer of audiobooks. Yup which per hour was the worst money. I've ever made right because i would like. Listen to an audio book for twenty hours. And then i would spend like ten hours writing two hundred word review the for which i was paid twenty five dollars but the great thing about it was that i discovered that if i listen to an audio book while i'm eating my dinner then i can transition immediately into doing the dish or dishes. Some depending on the quality of the meal. I prepared for myself and i could not stop listening to the audio book so it started to feel like it was one thing like the making of the meal the eating of the meal and the cleaning up after the meal were one thing and that allowed me to do all three of those things in like a focused and determined way. So that's what i recommend. Sort of like lumping the tasks more more like the three things start to feel like they are all part of the same right. It's thing which is not really a task. Even right it's like living. It's like ritualized of it. All right i was able to ritual. Is it which helped me right. And the only thing is that. When i was living alone. I tried to take advantage of the things that were good about living alone. Like the advantages to it. Like being able to read whenever i wanted to and being able to like watch whatever tv i wanted to whenever i wanted to John here's the opposite question from cassie. Who asks dear hanke john. I've been living by myself for the last seven years and i'm about to move into a place. Maybe we should just put you in contact with cassie because cassie knows how to do this. Better than than either of us. Seven seven years. Yeah she's an expert. I will be sharing a bathroom and a kitchen with two other people who i barely know. How does anyone go about consolidating things with new roommates. I have my own silverware. Cookware plates cleaning supplies etc. Also i have my own routines. I've only ever had two roommates previously. And they were both people that i had known for a pretty long time before we moved in together. I'm not sure how to do this whole thing. Thanks cassie wolf. First of all cleaning supplies just lump them together. You're going to get through. you're gonna use it all. Don't throw any of that away. Silverware is a little. It's a little bit of an between space for me. Yeah well it depends on like. Is it a full set. Nia and i didn't have one of those was married so it was just sort of like cobbled together silverware and in that case i feel completely comfortable. You know just having the amount that fit in the drawer. I never really from the age of about twenty one until the age of about twenty nine. I did not really know where any fork i owned. Had come from right. you know. I didn't know the origin story of any of my forks. So i definitely went to the goodwill and i bought four of each thing. That's how i forked. And maybe that. Maybe that's the origin story. And i've just forgotten but like i would look in. I remember looking in the silverware drawer and just being like this is amazing. I mean where did you come from many different kinds of here out elizabeth. Did i steal you from the golden corral. Because i wouldn't put it past him as part of living life. My personal feeling about what. I've had roommates in the past. Is that my plates. Were pretty much mine mostly. Because i don't think my roommate's trusted me to have totally clean plates so it was sort of. It's sort of discourage them from using my plates in the first place. But that's that's how it's always works for me like my plates were mine and the silverware was pretty much shared but only because it came from very nebulous source right. I mean the things that you're going to have to worry about more than this furniture if you moving any furniture is a big deal because it takes a huge amount of space like you only need one couch probably right and appliances as well. 'cause like counter space is important and you don't want to fill up every inch of counter space with like this person's bunder and this person sodastream in this person's cuisinart this guy too many things you don't want for toasters in one apartment. Yeah and you also want to compromise on like what appliances are necessary for your health and happiness and you may be and and also like refrigerators space is extremely important and must be maintained at all costs that is actually the bigger issue in my experience is like also win. There is a diversity of opinions about whether or not to for instance refrigerate peanut butter now if it's shared peanut butter. Yeah and as you know hank. Refrigerated peanut butter is catastrophic on every level. It's used because you do with it. You can't spread it. The thing butter exists do f and the the big upside refrigerating. Peanut butter is nothing. Because it doesn't need to be refrigerated. Somehow peanut butter can't go bad. And i don't know what that's about but like that's that's the situation. Yeah i've never had it happen. Yeah there's a lot of things you don't refrigerate like you don't refrigerate your jeans and i. i don't know why. I just know that you don't yeah. It's true but also in the process of remaining is is a process of of compromise and it is also one of the chief question. Asking areas of the deer hanjani inbox. So do not be surprised that conflict cannon does arise but hopefully i think the actual key is being able to how fat conflict rather than having it like right simmer and turn toxic and everything else and you're sending emails to strangers about it and not like hey please read my question on the podcast. My question is why does my roommate. June for continue to refrigerate the peanut butter i hate her. And i'm like. I don't think i was really a question for the podcast question. For juniper. yeah. Yeah so cassie. It is definitely a weird experience to live closely with people. You don't know well. I've had this experience before but it can also be really wonderful as long as you keep those lines of communication open. It's like being in a band together. It's like being in a family together like you've got to be able to talk and if you don't resentment will just build up and build up. Yep that's the main thing john. This next question comes from. Sarah who asks dear hankins john. What's kazue's thanks. sarah sa- great question. Do you know that the zoo is the oldest musical instrument Like in terms of documentation in the history of the world. Really i would have definitely thought it was like a flute. No the kazoo came i wa. Why do we call it a kazoo. We call it a kazoo because in ancient mesopotamia. That was the name for it. Oh isn't that wild. I definitely assumed that is the sanskrit word for a kazoo. I definitely assumed that kazoo was like a brand name from the nineteen fifties kazu's. It sounds like a brand name from the nineteen fifties. Kazue's are so old that one of the earliest examples of written language refers to kazoo. Whoa how long. Can i keep doing this before. Hank realizes that. I am full of crap. Oh man it. It seemed to me. No because these are like one hundred because he's like one hundred and twenty years old and then and then. I was agreeing. Because i was because i was confused and i was reading the etymology dictionary and i was like trying to figure out where so i was just like agreeing because i wasn't paying attention. Oh they're called kazue's because they sound like kazoo okay. It's an alteration of earlier brazil. Which was what we call the trumpet because it sounded like blue. And they're like well. This is kind of a knockoff. Terrible trumpet let's call it the cousin. Yeah but at least it wasn't from the fifties. Because if i had gotten at that right i would have been angry. No it there from the late nineteenth century right. yeah correct Well i bet. The earliest musical instrument is some kind of flute though. Now i want to look at the earliest musical instrument with it was. It's made from bird bone and mammoth ivory from a cave in southern germany. That's the earliest musical instrument ever found. Would go all right great. Well i won that one. Well not really. I believe that written language started with a discussion of kazoo. With like. I think i win. I think you definitely win that. We've been doing this podcast for like eight years. And that's the first thing you've ever done that will you. Gotta hank you've got to use it very judiciously right like if i did it every week you'd be looking for it every week and i wouldn't be able to trick you on that scale. It's been a while since i've tried to pull off of that scale and i feel really really good. I lo i. It's one of my favorite things. And i can't do it publicly because people because like i can't affect my credibility as a science communicator. Your science communicator. You can't share fake. It's all back in college. I once convinced my roommate that we got herpes from oranges. But only because oranges come from wales. You know who is really good at that. Game is my best friend chris waddle. Yeah yeah. I am so gullible. And he's just so good at it. He wants convinced me that we are walking up a hill in southern indiana like in the woods in december and chris convincingly that larry bird the famous basketball player had just walked past like that. So that's a group of three people like like two minutes later that that was larry bird and i'm like what no it was like. Oh it's like a thirty five year old person and and their two children and he's like no man that was they. They weren't even tall. They weren't tall. They weren't old. But but like twenty minutes later i was like i can't believe we saw larry bird down here in brown county. What's he doing here. yeah was he with his grandkids and then finally. Chris is like i. I really can convince you of anything. That's amazing which reminds me john that this podcast is brought to you. By larry bird he called in and you send us a message and he was like i wanna give you three hundred and seventy six. Larry bird's in order to get sponsored on your products. Wow larry that's an old goof. Old episodes of the puck. Way to dig into the archives. There mr bird. Thanks her not just being like a new listener to the gas but for being a deep fan. Yeah we really appreciate that We're also really grateful to our noted deep fan thermal radiation thermal radiation. Thank you for sponsoring. Today's podcast thermal radiation. It's like the second thing that kills you about the meteorite as the first thing. But that's okay. Guest is also brought to you by john shock. Pen it's real. It's a real shock pen. John was actually experiencing real pain while shooting crash course world history and today's podcast also brought to you by the happiest i had ever been when i was in high school. It was the happiest i had ever been but then like six hours later was the most scared and afraid i've ever been in that something about right being being a teenager and that that's on love I mean for me. It was more on friendship. Oh john this. Next question comes from halley. Who asks your hand john. I always hear about how we get vitamin d from the sun. How does that work are beams of light just full of vitamins that we soak in through our skin to sun activate something in our bodies that generates vitamin d not bailey not bury but halley This is so cool john. I love this. We need vitamin d to live It is an essential vitamin that. We cannot make ourselves except through photo action. So there's a chemical it's a precursor to cholesterol so basically like our bodies making chemicals all the time so that we can bike have our body made up of stuff and there are enzymes. The do all this work and most of those things we can make ourselves but some of them. We can't but one of the things we can make ourselves as cholesterol and on the way to cholesterol like their intermediate compounds and one of them is called seventy hydro cholesterol and that chemical exists in our bodies But it's usually exists in our bodies on the way to becoming cholesterol which we think we talked about in terms of it being bad but is also extremely necessary. It's just bad when it is out of balance what happens is it turns out that if that chemical gets exposed to uv energy it turns into vitamin d and so our bodies instead of figuring out how to make vitamin d. They didn't need to do that. They just bike started to store. A fair amount of that chemical seventy hydro cholesterol in our skin. And that was how we figured out how to make vitamin d so that we wouldn't have to worry about actually manufacturing it because it was easier to just put it on our skin. Wow simpler i should say. That's pretty cool. Yeah so we're like kind of like trees. We are a little bit photosynthetic in that that step on one chemical pathways done by The energy from the sun not from us. that's amazing. Yeah well hank. It's time for the all important news from mars and afc wimbledon all go first because tomorrow as we're recording this or six days ago as you're listening to it a huge day in wimbledon's history. We will briefly mentioned the fact that over the weekend. Afc when will didn't play the franchise. Currently plying its trade milton. Keynes got a one one. Draw nothing in this world more uncertain than a one nil wimbledon lead. I mean if we score before a- the ninety four th minute it's to suit so Scored a great goal and then gave up a goal. Three minutes later game ended one one whatever. Good point away from home. The importance of also won a game in between the last of the soviet recorded. So you are still doing. Well we did. I think we're we're in eleventh place right now which pool i mean. I'll take that all day long. Yeah two big stories that affect wimbledon right. Now one is the lockdown in the uk It appears that the top four tiers of english football will continue playing. So that's that for now. And then secondly after over ten thousand days away from wimbledon away from plough lane their stadium for over one hundred years. Wimbledon are back home at last. They will play their first game at the new plough lane stadium. Funded built and owned by the fans of the club. Tomorrow unfortunately it will be in front of no fans and so it will not really be plough lane. I think to a lot of people until we can all be together there but it is a huge moment and an incredible testament to my mind of what can happen when community sticks together and hold onto hope because everyone. Everyone said that this was gonna be impossible. That plough lane was gone and never coming back the english. Faa itself said that football in that community up football team in that community was not in the wider of the game. And wimbledon fans have proven. Everyone wrong without a billionaire benefactor with nothing but togetherness and hard work for more than thirty years to get to this moment so huge. Congratulations to everybody. Who worked so hard on this. Thank you for showing the world. The way back to plough lane and offering a different vision for what sports and what communities can be and can accomplish together well this weekend mars news john a milestone in mars news as well as the perseverance rover has passed the halfway mark to mars. Wow yeah so spacecraft finished traveling one hundred and forty six point three million miles on october twenty seventh. So it's been it's well past that now. Which is the exact distances has left to travel before reaching mars in february now. It isn't a direct midway point between us and mars because the spacecraft has taken curved route. So you can't like draw a straight line it's like sort of like Basically perseverance is continuing to orbit the sun as it moves toward marceau it because it was moving very fast and it left earth because how earth moving fast relative to the sun while the rover is traveling the team has been checking on it to make sure everything's working. They've been testing instruments and they've been uploading files. Everything seems to be working just fine. Another fun fact right now. It takes about two minutes and twenty two seconds for transmissions to go from mission control to the spacecraft. Because i appearance is two minutes and twenty. Two light seconds away from us. Wow is wild. When it lands on mars. It'll be about eleven point five light minutes away actually. That amount will change as mars gets further away from earth rate. That's a big annoyance when you're trying to control spacecraft on mars but it's one of the things that we're getting better and better at Planning the paths and also letting the rovers make some decisions for themselves as they go across the surface of the red planet. That's so cool and it's kind of nice. Thank this week. Both the news from mars and the news from wimbledon are about perseverance. Yes they are we find a way through. That's the greatest thing about us. John making a podcast with you. Thank you for taking the time to chat. Y'all and i like making podcasts me to do it again next week. Okay and then the week after that until we die john. We're off to record patriot. Only podcast this week in stuff also this before. This podcast did our livestream with our patriot. Patrons which is really nice to do. So you can go to patriarch dot com to find out more about that. This podcast is edited by joseph tuna meta produced by roseana also hodgson shared and gibson. 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272: If It Was A Good Moose

Dear Hank & John

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272: If It Was A Good Moose

"Hello and welcome to deer had gone jaw. There was for dear john podcast. two brothers. Answer your questions. News from both mars and fc wimbledon. John yeah why was twenty nine thousand so afraid of twenty twenty. Why because they had a fight and twenty twenty one. It's not a good joke. Why was six afraid of seven because seven eight nine. It's worse than that because it's like it makes even less because at the end you're like okay but like how does that. What does it have to do with twenty twenty one and yes twenty. Twenty one the fight with all of us all with twenty twenty and this is our last podcast episode of twenty twenty and then we're taking the first episode of twenty twenty one. No it's coming out a week from today. Which is still twenty. Twenty one okay. Then we're taking a week off and we're going to launch with just spectacular flair in twenty twenty. One you've never oh yeah heard a pug and a half new segments. We're going to have. We're going to have a belt. Buckle review section of the podcastone ascribed belt buckles to you. It's not just that we are reinventing. Dear hanko john from the ground up no more questions from our listeners. Now now we're only taking questions from people who don't miss yes. we're taking every tweet by a living former. Us president that's posed in the form of a question the question martin and were devoting one episode to each of those tweet questions yet for some of it were also going to have a section on numismatic sherve. So it's gonna be a new. Ms new 'em numismatologists podcast as well and that of course is the study of stamps. The collection of things of currency Paper tokens. I think. It's i think has to do with money Would stamps are have been and can be well not legally but can be treated as money sometimes. Sure so yes going gonna be coin collection. Podcast gonna talk about really cool coins to can i. Can i just give people a thrilling example of the kind of things that they can look forward to when we only answer questions asked by former weaving. Us presidents on twitter. Yeah hit me. What are these rhinos hiding. And how does it great question john. They have so many folds in their skin. I can feel lots of stuff in there may be rare coins. I mean there we know. Some of the things are hiding bones all in their muscles all them oregon subcutaneous fat. I know that there's a lot that they're hiding. What we don't know is what else they might be hiding. Yeah those that's right. Infants could be full of coins coins. They they could have some of those upside down airplane. Stay inside their skin folds and we we would never know until we dive deep on the question. What are these rhinos hiding and sarah. These rhinos spoiler alert. One of the things that we're going to discover is that we don't know for sure what these rhinos are hiding. But we know they're hiding something. I love this new. Podcast got john is going to be so much fun. And of course we're going to end every podcast with one of those like semi rhetorical questions where we use the word they right but we don't like define exactly who they is in the situation right. You'll yeah you get it. You know who they is. You know you know you know. Yeah we didn't. We may not know for sure who they are but we know that they are hiding. Because i'm sure that everybody's really enthusiast to hear about our coins and politics podcast politics. Podcast only the questions that have been posed by former presidents on twitter. Okay this is a great idea. it's easy. I'm starting a new podcast. Don't even need. I don't need you for this idea. Oh man well. Then i'm just gonna do all numismatic saw my own. Then you don't cited about with your rare coins podcast saying because the fact that you don't own or know anything about rare coin sir. I don't i own some own. Some fix spectacularly common coins. It's going to be all about the the most common coin ray. And what's special about them because while we always focus on certain points at the expense of others and also twenty twenty one is all about people who don't have expertise making statements as if they do as one of the major themes of twenty twenty. But it's gonna be the major theme of twenty twenty one. Yeah speaking of which. I have strong opinions about who should get the vaccine. I because i am a public health expert. Because i have a microphone and i sound like i know what i'm talking about god can i. I'm going to introduce a new segment right now. Great it's called soul. I wanna get nokia and in seoul. I wanna get. We search twitter For the phrase soul. I wanna get in quotation marks. Okay and that provides you with people who are writing new words to the following line. Gimme the beat boys and free my soul. I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away. Oh like i wanna get lost in your something out. Yes and so for example. This one is from my. Name's cy who says grilled cheese boys and fremont i wanna get lost in those pizza rolls. And i knew it i thought of it. Better the answering presidential tweets posed as rhetorical questions. Oh god lord almighty twitter is a place yes it is a place all right. Let's answer some questions from our listeners. Which is actually what we're gonna do In two thousand and twenty one on this podcast first question comes from oliver who writes dear john. I the philosophical question. The myth of medusa is that she's so hideous that you'll turn to stone just by looking at her but hideous nece is a matter of opinion right so if you didn't think that she was hideous would you still stone oliver sixth grade. This is a great question. What if i'm just into that ray. What if you look like snake hairs. Yeah i mean people's man. This is the thing different boats float in different waters metaphorically of course in actuality all boats float on all waters if they float on one they tend to foot on others oliver first off. I love that you're asking the big important difficult questions already in your young life It means very good things for your future. Yup i always understood that people turned to stone when they saw medusa till it was just magic. Like there wasn't anything print in particular to do with Medusa hair or face. It was just like it might magic. Is that turn you to stone. But i could be wrong. I don't pay a lot of attention. I always felt like all these snakes are about to bite me. And then i'm i'm so scared that i that i turned to like the fight or flight reflex and i'll tell you from experience when i have the fight or flight reflex. It's called the fight or flight or freeze reflects for action. Because i freeze right so busy fighting medusa in the mirror of the shield right. Have you ever been in a situation where you have to wear everything's reversed and you have to do anything at all. It's impossible so hard practice i know. It must've pract. I can't even shave. Let alone eliminate medusa so is in them and he's like walking backwards is just stay various. Delanie this sort of like walks. And but that's how i imagine it. Yeah i mean. I have a difficult enough time telling my right for my left. In the best of circumstances when you reverse everything so that when my hand moves left it moves to the right in the media. There's no way can't come. Come my hair nowak if i don't medusa i've just realized something i can do. Nothing in a mirror except back my car up. I can back my car up in the mirror and so they should change the story so deceased just backs his truck up on a medusa. I like that version of the story. Better i'm not sure that every detail of it was available to the ancient greek storytellers. But he definitely had dope rig. I will say also when you look at it. And maybe the mir's these days are just of higher quality than a deceased as mirror shield and jailed. But like when you look into a mirror. I i never feel like oh thank goodness not seeing the proper image is why i think it's magic magic but your question is a good one oliver and we need to think more about the ways that we construct beauty and thank you for helping us do that. Yes john here's another question. It comes from betsy. Who asks hanke john ivan. Baking a lot of christmas cookies lately. The sun's lovely. The best thing to do this year's make cookies and the recipe keeps reminding me that i must use a liquid measuring cups for liquid and dry measuring cup for dry and generally. I used just use the dry measuring cups for everything. Why why must use different cups. Are they actually different in any way liquid ingredients and dry ingredients. Betsy boy john. Do you know what the difference between these two things are. I have no idea. I use them to say interchangeably. Yeah so they are. You do know that they they are different things so you have like the cup measure which has all the ingredients on you. Fill it up with what with with liquid or with solid right. And then you have the like scooby. Bits that are like exactly the size. Yup scoops yeah so it turns out that people get all up in the business because the idea of the liquid is that you don't want you don't want them you have to fill all the way up 'cause you'll spill it and so it has like a has levels and the idea of the scoop so that you can level it off by pushing stuff off the top. So it's extremely exact. This is the problem. I have with it. There is nothing when you're measuring cups. That is exact. There's no there's no fifth cup is no eighth cup like you only have like. The gradients are not intended to be exact. The measurements are deeply. The number of significant figures is very low. And so if. I can't have a two fifths of a cup. In my recipe at all the difference between a third and fourth just. Isn't that big of a deal. So if you want to be a stickler about this get a scale otherwise get off my business and let me make cookies okay because you feel so strongly about this. I'm nervous about offering a different opinion but my experience has been and this is just my personal experiences in science. My experience has been that baking requires a more exact measurements then say making chile. I agree absolutely which is why. If you wanna be a serious about baking get a scale but if you just want to get us gas cookies. It's fine to use different cups. Okay will this makes me feel better about my current strategy which is to use whatever happens to be available. I will say that the chances that we're going to not receive correction email about what you just said are neil no. I can't wait. All of the people who are pedants about baking will with me that a scale is the way to go. Okay thank god. I'm still nervous. Because i'm the one who has to deal with the correction email. I a lot of times. You don't even see some of the horrible things that people will say about your mistakes. No one says anything a horrible. They're very nice. We gotta have you gotta be out about something john. That's true. And i appreciate you hearing my heat and saying okay. This is fine. I don't know. I will rescind from from having an opinion on this discussion comes from gambling. Who asks dear. John and hank. Have you ever started a blog before this. I have a definite answer to write these. I can only answer questions about my personal experience in this beautiful broken world and the answer is yes and i have. Both had blogs have both had bog. Hank was like a professional blog. I was this question. Does feel like it came from the past. I know i was just thinking. When was the last time posted to my blog. And then i checked and it has been awhile. What's your blog if you go to john. Green books dot com my big hit website. I don't know if. I don't know if you know about it hanging. I don't know if you've been to join in at john. Green dot com. I and and now looking at maybe some property. Maybe maybe looking at getting some property. I know i don't have john. Green dot com and you do have hanged green dot com and it's cetera et cetera. A section of john green dot com. That's called my john green. Oh no and. I can sign up at my john green. Well i wish him all the best at selling all of the real estate in southwestern tennessee but and northern mississippi as well he's expand northern mississippi but my website is different. It's john green books dot com. And there you find that. I have a blog out. Do i find it. You go to john kerry dot com and then you go to the little area ball right find more things that it says blog and i myself am shocked to learn that my most recent blog post was on august twenty seven. Yeah i am also surprised to see this specifically because i did not write this blog post. It is a bog post acknowledging that i have written a book called the interview that comes out in may and it has a comment. Wait several call. Why are these people commenting. Barbara says satisfy your podcastone but things sharing yourself with us. Well barbara opportunity to buy the book. I well okay. So is that my only blog post ever. Yeah i have written one blog. Post john dot com and full disclosure. I did. I did not right release. Yeah it's a great press release. i'll say i know who wrote it in. They're wonderful but yeah i it. It wasn't me. I do have a quote in it that i wrote a What sat can i read it as as you sure as you do my do my accent before i was a novelist. Y'all got deuba. No i was at the of you. I was that good gangrene accent. Not only. was that bad. It reminded me that in a time when so many people are doing so much damage to the national reputation of the united kingdom. Nobody nobody is harming that country more than you with your accent. This is such a difficult time for our beloved british listeners. They are dealing with so much uncertainty. And then you have to pile it on by making them think that that's how they sound everybody's gonna find out that i have a really great british accent. I just never use it I bet before. I was a novelist uber. I was a book. Reviewer and the format still fascinates me. As i've been revising and expanding the essays for the anthem asean reviewed. I've begun to understand these reviews as an attempt to chart the contradictions of human life. As i experience it how we can be so compassionate and so cruel so persistent and so quick to despair and how consciousness is it once depraved and its meaninglessness and profoundly sacred in its meaning. That's a little much. I it makes me feel like a little like you wrote that for the aliens to hear gets inscribed on a golden record that we sent out into space and trying to get. I'm trying to really get those book. Sales by the way every copy of the first edition of the enterprise and reviewed book will be signed by me and you can get them wherever books are sold and human consciousness is both depraved in its meaninglessness and sacred in. Its meaning a hank east of blog. I mean i guess. Echo geek is still up. oh but you. Haven't you haven't posted to your blog. It's not still up. It is currently not up. Wow oh okay. It's a nice reminder that in the fullness of time all things will pass including websites yeah My blog is down john so who knows. There's a lot of posts there. But hey i think that that to some extent nothing lasts i. I need to ask this question from elise. Dear john and hank but mostly hank i am a teen and therefore i have been following. Hanks tiktok quite closely as of late. At least i am also on tiktok. And i am a solid platinum tiktoker. Elise i make hit just at tiktok sets. I don't make flops. I'm like who's only made four albums. And they were all great taylor swift. She's made nine albums but they were all hits on the taylor swift of tiktok. At least i've never missed okay. It's true you'll get hanks tiktok oh sorry. He's he's brilliant but he's got some some duds. Okay let's use made five thousand ticks. They can all be amazing. It's made a lot of when i make tiktok. It's like when you're waiting for a new. Thomas pinch in novel or something like the world stops. It's pronounced pinch. Oh i thought both pronounced been. Oh god super dumb. A what we're talking about. It's i mean. First of thomas pinch on does not get to have an. You can't be both famously reclusive. And have a strong opinion on how your name is pronounced. You don't get to be both have to choose. Yeah yeah you have to not care. All right i mean as such a. It's such a niche job. Most people don't even know like anyway. There's this writer. And i said his name wrong. Everybody's wrong and then. Hank corrected me incorrectly. And is very very funny to me okay. This wasn't a question but this wasn't a question about my hit tiktok and my attempts like i'm working so much harder to get people to follow you on tiktok where i don't make content that i am to get people to buy my new book but anyway a lease your question. There are so many things that look so tasty but you keep telling us not to eat. I want to know the opposite. Because if you don't follow hank's tiktok he's got this whole thing like don't eat grass. Don't eat other things that you shouldn't eat you know that's like don't don't eat paced just trying to help. Gen z survive to adulthood. What are some things that seem wrong but we actually can eat hungry elise. Yeah so like a big one is lettuce. I don't know if you've ever seen lettuce but it's like it's like you take a big bunch of leaves and the us crawling right into them and they're really delicious like full of crunch and water and i love it. You wouldn't think that it's edible but it is that's true that's true of no also pop tarts another one Where you're like look like food. Looks like cardboard with holes in it and then you have it in your life. That tastes okay. I guess there's plato. Does that was always a surprise to you. Can he played out. Yeah that's pretty wild. I mean it. It seems like it seems kind of food dish to me. I mean yeah. I guess i don't i. I don't look at plato and think like oh i should eat that but you can. I mean don't eat a ton of it you can eat. You can eat a little bit here and there. It's fresh you know just out of the just out of the box. I always have a little bite. I love the idea of surprisingly at a ball. And that's a great brand. Yeah i would buy anything in the surprisingly edible brand especially like you know that whole genre of tiktok s- where it's like which one of these forks is actually a cake and which ones a fork. Yeah like i wanna. I wanna i wanna eat more highly processed foods that are made to look like non edible consumer from like. I want to go buy a watch for breakfast. Yeah like a pop tart. It's like you look at a pop tart in immediately. Think like that looks like food. You immediately think like that. Looks like i like like Advanced post it note or something. I would love a food brand. That just sells music highly processed like cliff bar style things but in the shape of the on edible Experiences like books. Like if i get. If i could eat a sweet cliff bar of a book out of that. I think that'd be five hank. I think that's next big idea. We've we've stumbled across. Hanks next million dollar idea. So there's are some things that you can eat and people do eat. That seems very were there. Certain bird's nests that are made by bird spit that people eat and eurest bird's nest soup. Yeah you can eat. Chalk is an okay thing to eat. It's completely nontoxic really. Don't you like a ton of it. I mean that goes for anything. Don't eat a ton of any. Yeah you can you can shop chalk. In fact i think sometimes they actually wanna get calcium carbonate into people they usually don't make them chew on a sticker shock to get it and clay also was a thing that's like that where clay is sometimes used. As as a thing to help you feel better. Bismuth is the active ingredient and pepped abysmal. One of the active ingredients and bismuth is the least substance. We used to think that it was the last The heaviest wasn't radioactive but it turns out. It is just very slightly radioactive. It has a half-life that is longer than the life of the universe so boom take that kind of beautiful actually far not the ultimate lifetime of the universe but so far were what we don't do. We know we know how long the we weirdly enough know how old the universe which seems very rhino. We know how old the universe is. I'm saying you said with great certainty that you know how long the universe will be into the future and we know that now we do not. Oh it could be literally could be days but in this circumstance in which it is days then we no one will notice when it happens. So that'll be nice. Yeah and the last thought that all have will be like oh business did have a half life longer than the universe while you will not have time to have that thought. I'm very fast thinker. Hang quit thomas finch. Oh oh there are. Things are a little loose here. This week. it's our. It's our end of your spectacular. So i love van and we're we're not. We're not necessarily firing on all cylinders. Think i think it was. I think it's been a win so far. This next question comes from page. Who asks hi. It's deer hankins. John page mill vodka. I like high is appropriate. I saw an instagram video of someone getting a pet moose You don't know this but petting moose has always been one of my lifelong goals. Now i did not know that about you page. You're right i want to pet a moose shirley ways now. I'm currently crying. Because i understand that i will probably will never pet moose but i want to. There is so big and cute. And i want a pet him. Loose question is how do i make this happen. Turn to three ninety four page. Why three ninety four. I don't know that's page. That's that's a secret just for page. What's on page three and ninety four. I don't know if that's a question that will be answering in our hit new podcast semi rhetorical questions with hang john. The book took down blake. Didn't have a pay to three ninety. Four yeah page. I'm going to hazard a guess that you want. A better moose. Because you've seen a lot of pictures of moose Because my experience of being in the presence of moose is that you do not want to pet them. Yeah i mean. I'd wanna pet moose. If it was a good moose somebody had had made it a pedal moose but like one. I don't know that something that someone should do. Yeah so. I don't know if i want to support them in that endeavor right and two. I don't trust him kozaru big. They're so big. Yeah one of the only times. I felt truly afraid. Yeah in the purest. Its purest form was when dad and i were rafting on the no attack river in northern alaska when i was like fourteen and we hadn't seen a person in ten days and then suddenly a moose how do you. How have you done things like that. What person was it did that. I was just thinking about about. I hate it. I know. I know doubt is listening. I i loved the time with dad. Yeah but i would have loved to spend that time with dad. I mean it was beautiful. It was beautiful. It was a great trip. Do you remember. I was thinking about that. Huck finn thing that you did. Were you like. Yeah with a bunch of other teens. Lashed a bunch of logs together and floated down the mississippi river river with like an adult yet. That's an interesting telling of the story. That's not what happened okay. That's how i've always imagined it. Ever since. I was a kid and you were doing this and i was like. Oh my god. I can't believe john's doing that. In some ways it was worse it was me and like a bunch of other thirteen year. Olds who who we did. Make the raft and then we rafted down the french broad river. Okay well less intimidating river in a lot of ways than the mississippi very similar to what i said so far but we were with one adult we were with one nineteen year old. See says way worse than i say know i. I walk at the nineteen eighties. Were a different time. You just ate anchovies. You came home and all you want to eat with was anchovies and bagels. yeah i still like an anchovy actually bagels are also not bad. Yeah that's all. I ate for like for like eight days and i lived out of a five gallon bucket that i had all my stuff in and it was pretty good. It was a good life and i. I had an awesome awesome time. But i do look back on that and think like wow that was court in some danger that i didn't fully understand at the. Yeah i mean like our parents were like yes barely a teen. Yeah go off and don't drown see in three weeks. I mean another way of thinking about it. Hank is that. When i went on that trip on the french broad river i was like fourteen months away from going to boarding school and having essentially no adult supervision for three years. I mean those are different where this is just not at all my experience. It's very strange. If we were going to ask people they would say that. The weird rafting trip is a thing i did. Yeah it's i mean we did have very different childhoods in a way. I think the experiences that people would associate with. Yeah you would be the like experiences of adventure and and everything and actually was like closer to my my childhood like you never really like went on crazy trips and got jobs in random places over summers when you were in college or in your twenties and i did that almost every year. Yeah i mean. It was the same person like i had all believe me. I brought all my. I brought all of my problems to the arctic. I was still me up there. That's the big problem with the geographical curious that you bring yourself with you but yeah that was weird anyway. The point is that if you're ever in the presence of moose in the wilderness right and it's a big bull moose you're not gonna want pet it. Yeah yeah. Yeah but if but if we're going to be thinking about like moose adventures. Like if i'm just gonna like imagine i wanna blake ride through the sky on a moose which reminds me the jay. Five guys is brought to you by writing in the sky on a moose. Riding in the sky on a moose. It's hank's depressed dream. I mean if the only thing that will get me to say. Yippee that's it has also brought to you by thomas pinch l. spin show. You're saying it wrong is the author of such books as gravity's rainbow i. Today's gazelles brought to you by surprisingly edible dot com edible dot com. This is gonna get before the episode comes out definitely a real website where you can definitely by real things. So it's available. Thank you spent worse twelve dollars. Haven't we all and this podcast is brought to you by john. Green's blog on entry. Long has four comments twelve lakes. And it's a press release. How did they find it. And how disappointed were they when they found one. It makes me think that i should maintain my website. If i if i have four regular commenters i feel like i need to be on their more often answering more of the difficult questions where they're coming from hank before we get to the important news from mars and afc wimbledon. We need. I answer a couple more questions beginning with this one from jazzy rates. John and hank. What are you get a baby for christmas. Okay goes on and talk about. My husband. And i had a baby this year. She's incredibly wonderful. Our families are asking. What does she want for christmas. She's a baby. I know the answer. You get a baby a well wrapped box that contains more paper that you can scrunch up crunch up and tear and do whatever you want with what you get the baby. That's it what. No here's what you get. You get baby stuff for you. You get a baby. The things you need That's what you ask. This baby needs. Yeah like a news. Expect a miller lite now what i was thinking but okay baby needs consumables. Because this baby isn't looking to increase their overall number of things in their house so like baby wants miller lite baby once bath bombs wants bath bombs baby on some of those like some of that like artisanal pink sea salt to sprinkle on top of a home cooked meal. Save you want some lavender oil for babies baths by which emmy noni needs some lavender. Vance baby needs them like vanilla scented candles. They didn't need some mile t challa. I'm not. I'm not engaging not engaging you're welcome jazzy answers your question and the answer. Brilliant thank you one more question before we go to mars and afc wimbledon. Yeah sure this question comes from juliana who asks near hanke john. I hope this isn't a dumb question. But at the end of each podcast you say your podcast is shared in gibson whereas gibson. And why are you sharing it. There aren't podcasts. shared everywhere. yeah. I'm not british but hank pronounce this with a british accent. Shouli on The funny thing is you are very familiar with someone named roseana who has a british accent and says her name in a british accent sometimes and and yet and yet. I'm not saying. I can do better by the way. I'm just saying that therefore i don't try share it in gibson as a human person. Yeah just talk. Really fast at the tanned. The podcast is produced by sheridan space gibson. Very feel very andruzzi owner bad sheridan right now. Who after all these people think that she is just a place. Yeah locale yeah that. We shared no share sheridan gibson. That's that's what it sounds like. It does now. Now that i've i've heard it. I definitely get it. But yeah it's it's a reference to a person not a reference to a place correct. Hank yes can. I i mean. Afc wimbledon as you know have been scoring too early. This has been a problem all season long. Not team in the top. Four divisions of english soccer have given away more points from losing or tying positions than afc wimbledon. That's how big of a problem it is so. Afc wimbledon in the middle of the week played sunderland which is a huge team. They have. They're much much bigger than we are in terms of like support and everything But we managed to tie that game one one as quite a good result i thought and then we had a home game against crewe. Alexandra and i know what you're thinking. Hank who exactly and alexandra score. No offense stalled the crewe alexandra fans out there but crews scored in the sixtieth minute. It was one nil. And i was so discouraged and so frustrated and then in the ninetieth minute th. The game's only lasts ninety minutes. Heck in the ninetieth minute. In what i thought must have been a brilliant brilliant strategy. Afc wimbledon scored an equalising goal via ryan. Longman who has been great. all season. Sounds great and i was like a rock. What could go wrong. There's only the like extra couple minutes they add on for injuries and substitutions at the way we we didn't even go a full minute before we gave up the losing goal the nut we scored in the ninetieth minute and we still scored too early. It is shocking. At this point it is a it is a problem at some point it stops being incidence statistically significant that we cannot hold onto a lead or a tie for even forty five seconds so now. Afc won within our fifteenth in the league one table and we're still six or seven points away from relegation so like it's not a yeah it's pretty down at the bottom. It's pretty close to it is it is. It's very crowded toward toward the bottom of the table. And i don't. I was feeling so good just a month ago. I mean in terms of afc wimbledon season. And now i am not feeling great. And then there's the second level of course which is that with all the increased restrictions for the uk right now. It's not clear what's going to happen with the season in general so yes hullaballoo as per usual. What's the news from mars. We'll john and news from ours. It's interesting and exciting of so. Insight is a spacecraft that spin on mars for about two years trying to learn more about the planet and that's included a seismometers to measure mars. Quakes which are earthquakes but on mars and they can tell us about the interior of mars and this month nasa announced some key findings from that data so it you know it takes a little while for all this stuff to get processed and go through peer review and stuff and so. Here's some of the things we know what has a lot of mars quakes but none of them are very strong. Insight is measured more than four hundred and eighty mars quakes since april twenty nineteen. None of them has been larger than three point. Seven on the richter scale which is a little surprising to seismologists. But it could just be that. We're watching mars during quiet seismological period and maybe we'll catch some big ones later The second result is that scientists that mars mars wind is messing with some of their quake measurements. The wind might be responsible for the fact that there have been very few quake measurements since june of this year. So like the somehow the wind is interfering with their ability to detect the mearns quakes and third The quakes are weird so we we expected that mars quakes would have a type of surface wave which travels over and along the crust and these surface waves. Were going to give us information about stuff going. On as far as two hundred fifty miles below the surface but for some reason none of these quakes have had surface waves so maybe mars has a that has lots of like fractures beneath inside. Or maybe the quakes that have been detected are coming from much deeper in the planet and so we're not getting those surface waves which is a bit of a bummer because the surface waves maybe would tell us stuff about the surface of mars that were not getting data on but we are but it is interesting nonetheless. That that that it doesn't seem to have surface waves Because that tells us a lot about the potentially ought about the geology of mars so whatever habitations are built on mars it sounds like are going to have to be built to withstand some level of mars quaking. Yeah i mean a probably the three point seven is is enough that it's very likely to not cause damage any more damage than like the wind would for example right it would be a greater force new structure than the quake right. I mean it just blows my mind to even think about seismic activity. Yeah which is so deeply associated with earth for me that we literally call them earthquakes. It's hard for me to imagine that happening elsewhere ahead. of course it does. It's just strange that there are planets out there being planet begs to everybody for listening especially thank you for listening through this most difficult and strange year. We hope that you're doing okay out there. 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260: His One Loamy Weakness

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260: His One Loamy Weakness

"Each. Listener supported W NYC studios. And welcome the dear John Gore's I prefer to think of the dear John and Hank. It's podcast where two brothers answer your questions give you dubious advice and bring you all the week's news from both Mars and AFC Wimbledon. John. John did you hear about the the the teacher who doesn't like to teach in public? No, he was a private tutor John quade. Why isn't that a pun I told the joke wrong. It's just an observation. Retail Retail, the joke teller from scratch, and so we can find out just how good it was going to be before you miss that Oh God I'm so frazzled I really love it when the punchline of a joke has been ruined. I love this second telling of the jokes. What did you hear about the teacher only last in private? WHO ONLY LIKES TO FART IN PRIVATE? Yes. Instead of TA. He was a private tutor. He was a private tutor Oh God. It's teachers teacher day John Well Well Hank what a beautiful way to honor the teachers of the world with that joke. Really lovely. Thank you I appreciate. All of the people who have taught me I mean, thank you to teachers but really an extra special. Thank you to hang green honoring teachers in such a deeply meaningful way. Oh God I I am so thankful to. The people who have taught me and also education is the foundation on which all progresses built John. So thank you to everybody who does that job I too am grateful to all of my teachers, but I am especially grateful to my children's teachers are doing incredible work in extraordinarily difficult circumstances as is the case for so many teachers around the world. Right now so thank you for finding ways to remain committed to your students even in this time of extreme difficulty. Yes, it's hard hank. I would like to begin today with a question from estill that I've been thinking about ever since I read steles email. Dear John and Hank why do superheroes fly with their hands and fists stretched in front of them? Is it better for like steering? Is it to pulverize oncoming obstacles? Health is still. Yeah. If you go fast enough I guess you got to be worried if you think about it if you're literally flying faster than a speeding bullet yes, and something that you hit that stationary is moving as fast to you relative to you as a speeding bullet. Right so maybe you want that to hit your fists instead study your head that is absolutely correct I don't think. That's the primary reason. Yeah. Though why superheroes fly with their arms out in front of them, I I, have a theory I I'd like to hear yours here is my theory and it's based on my observation of high level competitive swimmers they kick off the wall and then when they could just hold their hands like at at their sides while they were doing the like. Dolphin. Kick what they actually do is they put their hands in front of their heads which I assume is there's some aero dynamic or water dynamic in this case reason for right. So I assume that that that Superman is doing this to go faster. I, think that would be correct. If Superman put his hands together in front of his head and made himself into a WED A. Great Point very good observation that would allow him to move fastest through the air because when you're moving as fast as a speeding bullet like it is like the air becomes a substantial amount of of resistance. Yeah. You have to cut through that air be has basically solid. You WanNa be like basically bullet shaped. Yeah. But he doesn't do that and do you know why? Great. Point. I don't know why it's Vanity Oh because it looks cool and we all WanNa think that superman doesn't care how cool we looks but he does it superman is not like his muscles have nothing to do with his strength. He only works out so he can look good. It's really could be my size and he would still have super strength. That's where he is an alien. So he only looks good 'cause he wants to look. Good it turns out he's not just vulnerable to Kryptonite. He's also vulnerable to social judgment he is and we all are he's just like us he feels scared all the time and he's worried that he might not be beautiful and he might not be worthy of Gov but I will say to Superman what I try to say to myself what I'll say you hank what I think is true of every person and or alien from. Cal L on this planet right now close, which is that we are all worthy of loving and worthy of being loved and it makes sense in a way because superman you know like he kind of grew up without a family, he has to feel a little bit abandoned being shot in a spaceship to from. A different planet to Earth yes right Maha. Chris. Tarn. Cal Call. Elvis's name. Out there, I was trying to do a thing I was I was trying to say that all people are worthy of love regardless of whether they came from a different planet but. The thing got ruined by me not knowing. Superman is, of course, crypt on which is why Kryptonite is problem. Yeah. Imagine being a human on a different planet where you can do pretty much anything you want except that like if you get near Earth. Dirt. Things go real bad for you. Yes. Knuckled Earth I. It's just called dirt. It's his one weakness. It's got worms in A. Low Me. John what if there is a steering element to this? The Superman like it seems like he has to turn to the side to turn which doesn't seem like how it works I guess I'm a little bit confused about the physics of Superman a great question. How would you turn that? Would how do you turn maybe maybe turn by thinking I? Think that's the main, the main way or maybe it's like a segue and you just slightly reposition your weight. You're like now I'm going West. Yeah. Feel like the. It could either be that the steering is internal to Superman in which case it is something that he just does with his mind right the because it doesn't seem to require any physical effort. There's never see him like like put one arm slightly to the side to like push him to the right. Wing Suitors Yeah I. It's unclear to be, but does look very cool and it looks way cooler than not doing that especially when you got to Cape Wiles, would you wear a cape this dude vein such a good point and you know what? While we're dunking on superheroes I would just like to say that all these years later I continue to think that that man is the single most overrated superhero and I think history has shown me to be correct in ways that none of us back in two thousand ten when I I said that Batman was over rated superhero could have possibly foreseen I yeah I'm I'm there with you That's great. Point John. I also feel like if you wear a Cape and you're not in the eighteenth century, then you cannot be trusted. Now No. I got a Cape Do, you have a cape. Remember. What I? Yeah. I. Yeah. I have I haven't worn it in a long time but when I was in sixth grade, I took up magic. Oh Yeah. Now I remember that remember my brief period as a magician. And I got a I got a cape. To complete the outfit, it was like neon yellow and black checkerboard caper that I would wear and then I would do. Close Up Magic. And Poor. I mean I so desperately want to go back to like that sixth grade kid I I was I had a really really really rough go of it like bullying that. Now would be considered abusive and I really thought that if I got good at. Than Kids were going to like me. Yeah, I. Remember you also felt that way about o p Pants, Oh God I. Really I thought those opie shorts. I had a matching opie shirt and shorts Combo that I genuinely believed was going to transform my social. This week's actually why I had a problems social and. That I thought I was just like one matching shirt shorts Hambo away right from total success and or close up magic. Yeah. Yeah. But that kid was also so so sweet like I look back at my sixth grade self and I feel like a level of cringe and embarrassment of course, because I was trying way too hard and Yada, Yada Yada and there, and there were things about me that were really annoying and that were difficult for other kids and I and I totally understand that but I also look back on on it and I feel a lot of. Like sympathy for that kid and I think like you know what the stuff that you into was cool and more importantly like the way you were into, it was so cool and I like that about you and I I want to like I could go back and tell my sixth grade self-doubt. So if you are a sixth grader or you have a sixth grader who feel similarly like I think it's great that you love the stuff that you love the way you love it I rescind firmly rescind my comment about Capes oh I about that. Yeah. No you. Don't. Don't say that about KFC, you're hurting sixth grade me with his close up magic cabin but I do have another question that has arisen really we're not GONNA we're not gonNA. Do this one question for the whole show. I can probably count the number of items I own from when I was in sixth grade on my fingers. Oh possibly on one hand. Yeah. Is that the case for you and if so why is one of them? The Cape? It is the case for me and I have I have no idea. It's one of those things where like because I held onto it I feel like I should hold onto it. You know like I I also have my uniform from when I worked at steak 'n shake all. Why that's still there I also have. A whole I also have the the Banana Republic, backpack Satchel thing I a war in middle school. It was sort of like a aside bag. It was sort of perse ish and all the other kids are wearing backpacks but I was like no y'all are gonNA love my Satchel Yeah I. Remember that you still have that still got that. Can You? Can you do a full like no John Green retrospect outfit where you wear? Clothes from different portions of your life includes the Cape. So hard to know project for awesome perk and it's it's for charity so hard no, I'll just donate. For What about for me? You just roomy your mother who you? Know who is very Of You and who needs who needs some some some reward for that her we gotta the question This wind comes from Clem dear John Hanke freshman in college and it's not what I expected yet. CLEM. I know. Yes it's always a little bit not what you expect. Sometimes it's twenty twenty year. I would say it's always like twenty percent disappointed but it's not always like this clem goes on to right maybe I romanticized college while I was in high school because I was so eager to have a new start that's probably part of it but also like you live in a social order that romanticized his college and makes lots of movies about how amazing it as an upgraded is and how everybody has like one hundred and seventy-five friends all the time and whatnot. It could also be that the experience has been dramatically changed by you know but I had always envisioned college as a time when everyone found their place and very naturally made dozens of friends I live in a single because of you know and I have two friends after two weeks. I'm neither of their closest friends on campus I rarely get invited to things. How do I connect with my classmates is college as amazing as it's cracked up to be or do people just romanticized their college days in hindsight, the worst is yet to Clem. Well, I this is a hard thing in this moment like I don't know what the regulation. Yeah I I think the first couple of weeks of college or Haro. Yeah almost universally even if this weren't happening, but it's definitely more I mean much more isolating to live in a single to not have a lot of opportunities for socialization and I. I think over time Clem you will most likely find more and more of of your people. But I remember feeling really uncomfortable and lonely for a a fair amount of the first semester and then it kind of slowly got. Better it didn't. It's not like I woke up one morning and I was like, Oh, I have so many friends like there are periods when I felt lonely in every period of my life and college was no exception and that was even you know obviously pre restrict broad graphs, right? Yeah. I remember very specifically I had I had a roommate and you know we we hit it off pretty well but I remember really specifically like sitting in my bunk reading notes from my high school friends and listening to music that I was trying to be cool by listening to and. Trying to discover things and find things that were different in differentiate myself and like like so like these, these like two competing things happening simultaneously like trying to define new interest while also like just missing. So deeply those relationships that like that I graduated out of the thing about high school is that. If you're lucky it gets good at the very end. Now, you've got to college and you're like Oh great. Another thing that I'm going to have to spend like two years getting like comfortable with and good at. Yeah. It's definitely hard I remember playing music like music that I thought was very cool in the hopes that somebody would like the. My Dorm and be like, oh, now that person. WHO LIKES THE CURE AND AIR GO SH? Yeah. which I don't think is like I think is is an it's not bad rational but but also like maybe if you maybe like recognize the made. Having those thoughts to and they want. To think that person's cool I remember the first time I went ahead and told somebody I thought they were cool. They were like really yeah. I was like, yeah, you're so cool. Yeah. That's the other thing I would say actually Clem is that everybody or or a lot of people are having very similar experiences. Yeah and so when I'm lonely or I feel isolated, I also become a Lotta Times quite self conscious and start to think that like if I'm in a room and I'm not talking to anyone everybody's like at me and like thinking about me and how I'm lonely and how I'm isolated in whatever. But like in reality, all those other people are thinking about themselves. This is this is the insight that my wife Sarah had in seventh grade that. In the way that close up magic did not prove to be a magical life altering cure for my loneliness. Sarah at the age of like twelve or thirteen realize that nobody was thinking about her because they were busy thinking about themselves in was like revelatory. Yeah. Yeah. It took me like to me like like halfway through college ticket there's very self aware I mean I was like thirty two. In fact, I remember Sarah the First Time Sarah told me that story being well. Yeah. Of course that's true for you like other people aren't thinking about you because. They're thinking about me. We're terrible. Why does anybody care about us? Because all humans and other residents of Krypton are worthy of love Hank now. Yeah. CLEM in six weeks. Will you write us and give us an update? Yeah I. Think he I think let's give it six weeks. Good Walk are John this question comes from Larussa. Who Asks Dear Hank John I'm listening from Brazil and your podcast is very helpful and good in my life. I was talking to my friend and we were discussing time. And space regardless of knowing not nearly enough physics and she told me that if we happen to go somewhere really far away to another galaxy and look back at Earth with cool stuff telescopes, we can see dinosaurs because light years and time and weird space stuff is that true and if so how is that true? Thank you confused Larussa before Hank answers this question I am going to offer context because I did not know this until. Fairly. Recently in my life when you look at like the Sun you're actually looking at the sun like a few minutes ago because the light of the sun takes a few minutes to get to Earth and when you look at a star in the sky, a lot of times you're looking at that star like a hundred years ago or two hundred years ago because that star is two hundred light years away which. Means going at the speed of light. It takes like two hundred years to get from that star to us. Yes, and this is how we can look very very deeply into the past like we can look like billions and billions of years into the past by training telescopes into places that are very very far away and that is very and that is cool. But now hank is going to give us the bummer. Well. Here's here's the thing. So we got two problems here. One we've got the problem of how to get somewhere instantaneously and break the laws of physics by folding space on itself or something. So if you can get sixty five, million light years away. So that's the the farthest you need to get away to be able to see dinosaurs before like the extinction event that. So that's the first part. That's that's hard and then there's the second hard part, which is like building a telescope see sixty, five, million light years away at with like high resolution enough to spot a dinosaur. which both of those things are impossible but like if you could do one. Thing, you can't do the other because they're both impossible. So if you figured out how to. possibly. Yourself into one of those things you might as well, impossibly stuff in the others. So I'm saying, yes, you can do it. What might be possible. Probably not, but might be possible is for you to leave Earth right now and travel very near or at speed of light, which is the fastest known speed we think things can travel. Now it's quite probable that your body could actually travel the speed of light without a bunch of super unpleasant and fatal things happening to it but putting that aside if you've got to get up to speed yeah, it would be hard if you could travel at the speed of light and you could go like ten million light years away. And then you had a really good telescope which I. Know is impossible. Then you could look back and you wouldn't see like ten million years ago but you would see the moment you left Earth. Yeah, you'd have to get to the speed of light immediately, which would pulverize anything that existed it would definitely be hey, there's a lot of problems with this hypothetical scenario saying the other the other problem is that it would take ten million years. Yeah and that would be it might be bad for your health. Dour talking about like relativistic times might not take ten million. It wouldn't take two million years for you might actually be relatively instantaneous. It would be instantaneous to you. Yeah. I think you're going to speed of light it'd be a few seconds even if you're going to be just from just from slowing down and speeding up I think it's Really. You could look back at with your impossible telescope and you can see Earth maybe I don't know five minutes after you left it, and then you could become a distant observer of earth which would be a cool job that maybe some alien has right now I do want to talk about scales here at the end of the question because this is interesting. So the brightest star in the sky serious is eight point six light years away. So if you are on serious, you can see Earth as it was eight point six years. Ago. The good old days. So to get to get sixty, five, million light years away, you need to be not in this galaxy, right? So android Andromeda is two point five million light years away. So that's also a totally different galaxy still not anywhere close to far enough away see dinosaurs. Yeah. So you have to be at Galaxy N G. C. Four, eight, four five to be able to see a tyrannosaurus rex as it is going extinct, which is such an important and nearby galaxy that it only has four numbers and its name. Yeah. It is it's not it's not close by it. We didn't. We don't even have a name for it. Yeah. But the dinosaurs over there are incredible. Article another question. This one comes from Lauren who writes dear John and I make fan. Fan Fiction Post them online, and recently I told my friends that I sometimes delete comments that make me feel bad about my work or could start an argument in the comments section because I prefer to keep my areas of the Internet as positive as possible. Well, somebody doesn't work for facebook. My friend accused me of censorship and it's been bugging me ever since is it wrong for me to delete these comments when the platform allows me to or am I just cutting out society before it can grow? Yes. So there's two ways to imagine there's two to framework here. One is that this area of the Internet is yours, and the other is that this area of the Internet is some kind of publicly owned thing and and like and and so everyone has equal. Rights to it, and in this case, it is very cut and dried to me that that space is yours. Yeah you decide and you get to decide on the rules of that space. If people are in my house, I get to decide what I think is like okay behavior and if they start smoking a cigarette I can be like don't do that. Yeah it is the comments section to your story. You decide the rules of that comment section on various subjects have different rules and Those rules should dictate the kind of conversations that are possible in those spaces is a very common thing on the Internet, it has been common since the beginning there is no like time in the past when there was no internet censorship hanged, I were on forums in Nineteen, Ninety one Manhattan rules rules. Yeah and you don't even have like rules also don't need to be written down when it's a small scale space like it is okay to have power over small areas just like I. Have Power over my home. The idea that like every space on the Internet like there's this weird idea that all Internet spaces should be treated equally, it just doesn't make any sense. No, and just as well. If Lauren goes into somebody, else's fan fiction comment section and says, you know Batmans a really great superhero and you guys are idiots then that person has ever. It's fine if they delete it. Yeah. We are never going to get to a place where we have healthy spaces online. If we don't acknowledge the fact that like toxicity spreads so quickly yeah. Really does and I like I do think that it's important to note that like people can have differing opinions and if like the response to that different that different opinion is I don't want to hear it and I also don't want other people to see it. I'M GONNA, exercise my power to allow some other people did not see it then like there are situations in which that is a problem but this is not one of them right? Because that's not the function of that. Space. Right. That's not what it's trying to do right and so we have to have different rules based on the utility. We are trying to achieve from different tools and like different areas of the Internet are are four different things exactly like there's also norms you know there's norms that like when you come over to my house for dinner like we're not gonNA get in a heated argument because that's not the function of this space. Yeah. Not that people are coming over to my house for dinner anymore, which reminds me the today's podcast is brought to you by dinners with friends. That was nice. This podcast is also brought to you by John's Cape. Now that we know what exists we are not shutting up about it. Now that's see. That's why I almost didn't tell you was because I didn't I didn't want it to become a film like yeah offline he like is this embarrassing now it's like absolutely mount. Her I feel like one of is looking out for the other. 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So I guess now Christmas is going to be in February Heck Yeah Darinka Jonas supported by hellofresh hellofresh lets us skip those trips to the Grocery store and makes home cooking easy and affordable gourmet recipes like the ball sonic fig sirloin are both delicious and cheaper than an average meal APP. So you can enjoy restaurant quality dinner for less I. also really appreciate because Catherine has a wheat allergy that we can almost always work around that with hellofresh. Also, lots of great family recipes. We enjoy like cooking as a family and the kids enjoy participating in cooking as well, and there's lots of recipes that are child friendly or at least friendly to my children and they don't have allergies. They just have extreme forms of preference. Yeah I have at the moment maintained a child who will eat basically anything and I don't know how I did it I mean. It's just something that he is not kindergarten. That's great. I hope that you can hold onto that forever hellofresh also donated over two point five million meals to charity in two, thousand, nine, hundred. And this year, they're stepping up food donations to local communities. You can go to hellofresh dot com slash eighty deer hank, and use the code eighty deer tank to get a total of eighty dollars off across five. Fox's including free shipping on your first box. That's hellofresh dot com slash eighty deer hank use the code eighty deer hank. I also wish that the code eighty dear John worked, but it is not. So use the code eighty your hand. John. This next question comes from scarlet. WHO ASKS DEER HANGING? John. Some confused why are shadows? Completely? I know has to do with like late reflecting but I'm unclear on the details and why aren't there a CA- billion shadows everywhere from light reflecting and making double shadows, not the color scarlet Oh boy I have answers to all of these questions I love this is deep I. Love. It is deep first of all when you're outside shadows oftentimes, there's there's like no, like there's not much of a clear shadow at all because the sky is bright. So the sun is bright, but the sky is also bright especially like we could notice this for example, when the sun is completely obscured by clouds that the sky is still quite bright in the daytime. Not, here in Indiana. But it is admittedly brighter than it is around midnight. Yes and so all of that light that's being diffused by all the molecules in the atmosphere is getting scattered around and will land and shooting like really sort of surprising directions like tons of different directions. I've I found out about this when I was doing three D. modeling once upon a time in a former career and in order to create realistic objects, you have to give to light not only from point sources, but from a dome so you have a sort of a dome that you build around your your object, and then you have light come from every point in that dome toward the the interior and you're basically creating a sky. And that allows for these like shadows. Did you only see when you're outside now in inside we also tend to have light coming from lots of different individual places. So it's rare that you have one point source of light in the room but also it's bouncing off of walls it's bouncing off of anything that. Pure black basically, and so you you get shadows that that are filled in by that La- light that's bouncing around but you can get very there are ways to get very dark shadow. If you're trying to get them for some artistic sooner cinematographer reason or whatever single points of light aimed directly at something with it not very many reflective surfaces arrived. So dark walls, curtains that Kinda stuff, that'll that'll dark shadows if that's your concern, but it doesn't seem to be. It just seems to be pure curiosity which is beautiful, and this is why on the moon where there's no atmosphere and also contrary to what you may think by looking at the moon, the rocks are quite dark. Shadows are very very dark on the moon. Really. Yeah. You know that's that's something I I that's something I would never have guessed but now that you say it, it makes total sense. Yeah. The Moon is weird and difficult like the horizon is close her than it is on earth because it's much smaller and then the the other thing is that nothing looks far away because there's no atmosphere. So one of the primary ways we judge things out past a certain distance when binocular vision isn't helping us is the like stuff in the atmosphere that that includes. It makes it a little more blue a little more cloudy, little less fa like a little less detailed. and we on the moon like you could see a rock that looks like it's you know twenty feet away and it's quite small, but it turns out to boulder. That's like a half a mile away. Wow that's wild. If cool. All right. Before we go back to space with the news from Mars which I know you're excited about I I need to read you this email from Alexis who wrote in to say, Dear John at the beginning of the pandemic my sister and I decided we wanted to hatch chickens since we had nothing better to do. We had ten chickens and one duck because the people who so does the eggs messed up on April? Thirtieth. We named them and I named one of the roosters Hank and the other rooster John. They've been named this ever since we could tell them apart from the others. John was the soonest to grow up and started growing and getting long tail feathers I. But hey, quickly outgrew him. which is just like life. I attached pictures of what they look like. Now, the dark one is hank and the lighter one is John Sincerely Alexis ps really heavy and we will include these at the Patriots. We are so delighted Alexis that you and your sister chose to name your roosters after us and that I matured faster her but hank venomously grew to be larger and more interesting. John Do, you have news from AFC Wimbledon for me. Do I ever Hank it's starting to seem and this is. A, very strange turn of events it. It seems like we might be good. Oh, that's sats. That is a better. The twist hung over after the last few years a huge twist. So ABC playing in the third tier of English football are now three games into their season and we have not lost. Another way that we just won a game at Fleetwood we won the game. From home with twenty, seven percent possession. And that's not great. They never looked dangerous and we were terrifying encounter attack like I. I have watched a lot of AFC Wimbledon Games. and. We have at times looked competent. Have never been what I would call fun to watch. On a pure entertainment level, but I'll tell you the first three games of the season has been actively fun to watch. It has been really exciting football like I. It's just I can't believe it's all happening plus Steve. seddon. Player from I can't remember if it was last season two seasons ago. But I mean really one of the best players in in the third tier Steve Said and has rejoined AFC Wimbledon on loan and he scored the goal that that saw US beat fleetwood one nil and he worked incredible and so I'm looking at AFC Wimbledon after three games in eighth place and admittedly it's a forty six game season there is a long way to go. But. We look good. So how how do you end up in a situation where fleetwood had had way more passes than you? Yeah. Way More possession than you. Yeah. But but fewer shots on target and the same number of shots on goal. How does that happen? Well, because we sat back and let them have all of the little backwards and sideways passes they wanted to have and every time they tried to pass it forward. We were like now we're now you we're gonNA take that ball. Yeah I take that back. Yeah. Go back go. Back to your side of the field. We're GONNA take that ball, and then we're GONNA kick it really long to Joe pig and then Joe Pigott is going to run it down and he's just GonNa Kinda like get his body between you and the ball and he's GonNa frustrate you and then the best part hank the best part was that after the game the manager of fleetwood town, this Guy Joey like they came in with a plan to waste as much time as possible and play really negative football of course we did. You're right. We did come in with A. We, scored a goal in the eighth minute and yes. Then we wasted time like how do you? How else are you going to win a football game? And so. I love to see it I love to see like salty tears of well, that's a really negative way to play football. Oh, I'm sorry. We're in the third year. Li It'll messy isn't available. Now we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA play. The goalkeeper is gonNA kick some long balls to the forward. That's just the way it is going to be. You know if you don't like it get a job lollygag. It was great i. Thank you can hear the hope they can come on feeling, turn it all around. Also, I should add that nerd terriers advertisements have gone up and you can see them if you watch the live streams on the AFC Wimbledon App you can see the in the home games you can see our advertisements along the side of the stadium and they they re they really do make me make me tear up there. So lovely and it's great to see DFT VA on the back of the shorts of the team in eighth place in League one. Amazing it can't last. But what a joy we're will what's going on? To Mars, we get censor and deeper into the Martian surface. No no that one I've been brought that up recently because there hasn't been any news on it except that it's it's probably a loss caused but who knows knows I don't know what they're if they've got any other plans. So the news is that the perseverance rover is on its way to Mars and also it is scheduled like the the plan is to drill samples and put them in tubes and then later return them to. Earth. Via some other future mission. So it's going to store these samples and be like, Hey, come pick them up. If we have some way of figuring out how to do that So it's designed to work with a future mission to return samples to Earth it's very exciting, but it only has a few tubes in which to store these rocks. So how do we figure out what samples we're going to be keeping? Well, we have more information now about the planetary instrument for extra x-ray Litho Chemistry, which is. Short this Pixel does a nice shirt Ning it's about this. I always find a way to acronym Eh is about the size of a lunchbox hang on the end of the perseverance rovers arm and is job will do a whole bunch of x-raying of various samples and most Mars missions have included an x Ray fluorescence spectrometer and most Mars missions have included an x-ray fluorescent spectrometer, but technology has been improving and. Pixel. Will be using a super narrow x Ray beam that will be able to gather details about really small features on Mars. So they say it's able to see pieces of Martha small as a grain of salt and gathering this really fine detail and combining with all bunch of other chemical information about Mars is GonNa help scientists understand all the way back from Earth what they're looking at could even help. US identify fossilized microbes if there are any but most importantly be able to identify which samples are going to be the most interesting samples to store for potential later gathering and shipping back to Earth for serious analysis. Yeah. But it would be pretty cool if they happen to find some fossilized remains of bacteria, oh? You know it'd be fine. That'd be I would argue that would be a significant bonus to the. Yup Yup. Yeah. Let's just let's just say that the the more likely the more likely outcome is that we get to do cool chemistry. The Right, which is fun too because in the end life is itself deep down just cool chemistry and on that note, thank thank you for putting. them making a podcast with me John, I enjoyed it I'm so glad that we get to do it. Yeah. Me Too how lucky our way super. Super Lucky I'm sorry that we only got four or five questions this week. Well, I mean it's not our fault that that question about Superman demanded minutes of our time. 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254: It Ain't Easy Being Green Bunnies

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254: It Ain't Easy Being Green Bunnies

"Listener supported W NYC studios. Welcome to dear, hang can John Lewis I prefer Beer John and hang podcast where two brothers answer your questions. Advice and bring you all the week's news from both Mars and AFC Wimbledon John. Yeah. It's your birthday. I know you're turning forty three years old today, which means John you're in your prime. You will be several more times I think between on average seven and nine more times you will be in your prime, but enjoy it this year. Yeah. He won't be in your prime for another. I. Think until you're forty seven bright. So enjoy while you can I have always wanted to live to a prime number age but I just want to state for the record that I don't find either forty, three or forty, seven of. All right. I was thinking more along the lines of an eighty seven is that prime and I don't think it is a ninety one. Is that prime? I think ninety what is prime ninety-one smells prime to when I give it a ninety one nor eighty-seven are all I just gave ninety one a big sniff and it came up prime. That's weird. Okay. Four GonNa give me another one what about ninety three's not prime ninety seven. Ninety seven what eighty seven close little older than that eighty nine. Yeah. Then a good one. Oh, that's perfect. We've decided Oh. Yeah. That's where mean that's that's where this rocket ship is aiming. Get to see Haley's comet for a second time, which is one of my great life ambitions. And I would get to die before him one hundred, which is one of my other great life ambitions and you get to Diana prime and then you can sit is there a thing you want to say do you have your last words planned out? You seem like the kind of guy who would know I feel like they're always better when they're spur Of the moment like the writer Paul, Caudal who said to his physician Dr? Do you think it was the sausage I? Think those are the ideal last words well, John One of my favorite. This isn't last words technically, but it was on on Matt Max Schulz's deathbed he's a biologist and he said all the important questions had now been settled all of. Them that is except the eel question which brings me to the first question of this. I. Love This. Oh my way Oh yeah. Before you get to the question again, he actually say that or did you just make that? No, that's for real. He really said all of them except for the question, but he didn't do we know what the question is we. Know exactly. What the question is John and Bethany asked it. Oh, what's the EEL questions question is from Bethany who asks steer John I just watched the Ted Ed video called can figure out how ills have sex and discovered that scientists literally don't know how heels reproduce is this true if so how do you think little baby eels come into being they just? Dubious advice appreciated birds and bees and emails Bethany John. This isn't just a question that we have about yields. It's a question that we've had about heels for Millennia. Wow heels are very confusing. Now Bethany is a little bit overstated the case and a lot of people overstate the case when it comes to the question that we don't know where baby eels come from or how they reproduce. We've got a an often you'll hear it said that like we cut. Open EELS and there are no gonads. So there's like no reproductive systems. So how do we ll even happen John Before we get into that? How do you? How do you think baby eels happen or if if you are just going to assume scientists don't know put together your your best your best worldview into into how you think this should occur. Yeah. I think it'd be sort of like near the tail to near the tail kind of action. Conflagration and then I. Don't know forty short weeks later. He get one baby eel. Yeah they come. They come at one at a time. I assume that's how it happens. is that wrong? Or is that right? That's well, we're not entirely store we high Kundi Right. So so so the thing that that we have gotten to the point of is that now we do know that sometimes emails do have gone ads. Only sometimes, only sometimes in fact, Sigmund Freud. Nearly had his entire career like waylaid into ill gonads because one of his his first paper that he published was about he'll reproduction and that could have been his life because it certainly could have been because there was plenty to learn and was learned during his lifetime and we are still learning. So he could have done that instead but instead Sigmund Freud became a a fairly influential psychologist who I think that rather understates the matter. But yes so let me tell you about. The life cycle of the L. They start out as a larva. So we're just gonNA like say egg. Okay. Ignore the chicken at today don't come out. They don't come out like regular baby eels they come out like tadpoles. Yeah. Not only that John they start out they basically turned from tadpoles into a different kind of tap into a different kind of tadpole into a different kind of tadpole until they become the eel and for a very long time, we thought all of those different things were different species of l. l.. There's the glass eel were elver, and that oftentimes is in freshwater and moves up coasts. Then it becomes the Yellow Brown eel they like to live in ponds and they can hibernate in mud and live for a pretty long time in that stage, and then they become the silver eel and that goes back out to sea, and at that point, the eels stomach dissolves, and so it is no longer capable of eating and its reproductive organs. Then develop and then they do something somewhere to make baby eels. But that last part we don't actually know about we've figured out the whole life cycle a pretty long time ago but we don't know where they breed and we've never been able to get them to breed in captivity. So we don't know what it looks like. That is wild I. can't believe I never knew this is the question is really big on Tiktok right now. Is it Or are you kidding I can never tell I can never tell what Tiktok yeah I mean I think that it might be really big in the part of Tiktok where I am but I get the feeling that that might not be the most mainstream tick tock place yet. So the other day I was trying to show my kids Tiktok and how great it is and how Tiktok is just a collection of people in their forties talking about the problems of people in their forties. And and so I downloaded tiktok onto a new device and it was like, do you want to sign in and I was like not really and Wow. That tiktok bore no resemblance to the TIKTOK either they were all these like wildly famous tiktok celebrities like driving Lamborghinis and I was like what I thought. I thought. It was just a bunch of like MOMS and DADS talking about the joys and complexities of parenting I love parenting Tiktok it's surprisingly good. I've seen some really like actually legitimately useful advice but also funny I have also seen some legitimately useful advice. The main thing that I've seen is people Hank I just WANNA state for the record that since we started the ill question, I solved a Rubik's cube. So I have been listening, I can almost. So what I'm trying to learn to do is I'm trying to learn to solve a Rubik's cube blindfolded like to look at the Rubik's cube before I started to think about the I'm not very quick. So I have to do like eighty different moves to solve it think about the eighty moves I have to do if I can do all of them and I almost I almost did it blindfolded I. I don't know maybe thirty or forty times. But I did I solved Rubik's Cube I. I don't want to Brag, but I'm getting so good at solving a Rubik's cube that I can do it now in under two minutes and thirty seconds. But I, I watched a documentary called the speed cougars on net flicks Yep and those they can do it in five seconds or four seconds. Yeah it's not fair. Yeah. I. Mean. This is my Asmar I just listen to this all day. God John Wall I know what to get you for your birthday? No. Actually already I already bought the most expensive nerdy speed cougar speed cube and can only do it in two minutes and thirty seconds so. All right. Let's keep going with the biology questions. I'm excited to find out the answer to this question. Maybe it's that we also don't know this question comes from anonymous who I don't know why they felt like. They couldn't put their name on this question, but they didn't. Hey. So they're a green feathers and they're green scales and why no green for why no rabbits turning green to blend in with green grass. That's a great question. Why don't Ravitz turn green to blend in with green grass? We do okay and I did so much research on this question. We spend fended him a truly embarrassing amount of time and We see there's there. I mean how much do you WanNa know John I just DP one ago. I mean third grade level. Okay. Give me the I'm nine. Yeah I- Vocabulary of twelve hundred words. And spent most of my time thinking about Pok Mon Ray lay it on me. Okay. So they're two really important parts of evolution. The like if you're going to evolve a new trait, two things need to be true one that trait has to be advantageous or at least not disadvantageous and to it has to be up possible with existing mechanisms and existing genes like for example, there are some lizards that are green and they have used a pigment that is produced by US It's not it. Serves a purpose in the in like the digestive system. It's like a bile thing. It's like Bil- I've I've BARF did I noted? Yeah. So it's put in. So it's green and they use that as as a green pigment and they've evolved it to be more green and to tolerate having more of it in their bodies so that they can be green and also be potentially may be toxic which they are. So like there, there was a way to get to green now it probably isn't. That there is no advantage like it may like. There's probably some there could be situations in which there would be a slight advantage to having green a for but I would say more than slight if you're a rabbit having green for, yeah would be an absolute game changer. So it seems like maybe Brown for is better maybe Brown for is a little bit better because there are also situations where Brown has really. Most of the ground is Brown. Most of the if you live in a place that isn't like Florida. Yeah. There's a lot of brown especially in winter when other predators are hungry. Yeah. So maybe WANNA. Be Brown. So but it it seems like it's probably more of the second thing where it's just difficult to evolve pigments that will turn you green. So we have yellow pigments so those exist but the the thing. That makes blue happen usually in nature is something that is specific. It's not really a pigmented structural and so it relies on really really regular structure to create basically ways for light to bounce around that allows it to be look blue, and this is what happens in some skin of mammals. So there's some monkeys that have blue areas of their skin, but this apparently can't happen easily with hair or maybe not at. All with hair because hair is in, there's like not enough of it for it to do the structural thing for it to have the order necessary for the light bounce around in the correct way for it to turn Blue and you would need to evolve a separate blue pigment or a separate green pigment, which apparently just is very hard to have happened. So it was fascinating. I liked going down this rabbit hole. But I don't know of anyone else cared I'll tell you what I cared for the first half the answer I thought that was really interesting, and then I thought the second half of the answer was not appropriate for third graders and I felt like you weren't taking seriously my genuine feeling that I have a third grade level understanding of evolutionary biology and it's never going to get better I. so basically, just to sum all that up for those of us who followed you know some of it. It ain't easy being green. Oh Wow. That's exactly correct. It genuinely eight genuinely ain't. I also wish and be bunnies though you know I feel fine. When I think about like what's wrong with the world today like if I close my eyes and think like Oh, what problems would I fix the color of Bunnies is It's not in the top billion. Angry with John All right. This next question comes from jared I. Really enjoyed it jared writes dear John and Hank today had a up at the doctor and it turned out I needed a tetanus shot the nurse and I were casually chatting and she asked me what was my favorite spot in town for breakfast and I started to tell her and then before I even knew it the shot was over and she was putting a bandage on my arm now I know when you're a little kid nurses tried to distract you so that you don't notice the shot and cry but I'm in my early twenties now and I seriously didn't expect this breakfast to continue into my older age. And in a weird way, I feel almost lied to how could I know our interaction with genuine if it was predicated this goal of smooth vaccination which you really even curious in my pancakes election or was she trying to make me not notice the shot? Is there even a difference? No, there's no difference. Jared. There's a main what what is ninety nine percent of small talk that occurs in a doctor's office it is intended to like make you feel comfortable and dig knowledge that there are two people in the room. It is in like when you're. The weather or your favorite breakfast bought nobody's like Oh God. I really need to find a new place in this town I've lived in for the last fifty seven years to eat pancakes well, I mean or maybe she has some connection to the restaurant lobbying town and she's doing an. Van This is this is an alternate means maybe of of income generation maybe that shit should be this is a great. This is the Chamber of Commerce should pay nurses to ask questions about the commerce in town and let wake see what people think. Do you think that there should be more soup sandwich your sandwich shops in town thick and write that one down there doing a bunch of these every day anyway. Needless to say, that's a terrible idea. You know it's like you have I don't think I need to explain why that's such a dumb. have to keep the medical stuff confidential but not the sandwich opinion I think you do actually i. I think a hip, a law in the united. States protecting healthcare related privacy extends to how much subway are you eating these When's the last time you went to Jimmy John Yeah. I don't I. Don't go to the doctor to have market research for me. Jared what's happening here is I mean I it might just be genuine curiosity, but it's definitely genuine curiosity that is timed to minimize your suffering during the shot which I would argue is like kind of one of the main points of healthcare, right? Like, yeah. Healthcare exist to try to lessen overall human suffering in in our health spans and your nurse was doing a great job of that. Yeah. Regardless. The question was for you it was in service of you right in any in any case. So you can rest assured knowing that that the nurse was looking out for you but also probably that they are curious and if you ask that question ten thousand times, it doesn't actually make it less interesting in some ways it makes it more interesting. Yup because you get this sort of like deeper deeper understanding of the breakfast desires of your local community such a good point Hank John what's your favorite breakfast spot in town man? I really messed up solve this Rubik's cube while you were talking what? Put It away I got. To Roll. Roll it away so far from the microphone that I can't get to it. What was the question? What's my favorite breakfast thought I left the house in five months. My favorite breakfast spot is the kitchen and then I guess my second favorite breakfast bought is in front of the TV. What's your favorite breakfast spot? There's actually a place. Called Mike that has a walk up window that I go to fairly frequently and BEF- even before this, it was one of my favorite breakfast spots, and now it is the only one. This next question comes from Owen who asked steering can John I've been hearing a lot about what people think is their right to do or not to do something nowhere is it written? It's a right to not wear a mask where do rights come from best wishes. Owen is a great where to rights come from grace is a big that seems you. Could write a crash course about this and we have a bunch of them and it is a big question. So in the United, states, at least if you go to the declaration of Independence One of our founding documents, you will read the following very interesting sentence. We hold these truths to be self evident. So we don't need evidence for these truths because they are evidence of the themselves I guess that all men are created equal that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights among these are life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. So where do rights come from in the Declaration of independence they come from the self evident fact that all people are created equal and that all people are endowed by their creator with certain rights. So the rights come from God, yeah, and that is for a long time. How at least in the enlightenment like that's where rights came from. Now, of course, one of the many ironies of the Declaration of independence. Is that it said all men meaning all people have these unalienable rights that they have been endowed by their creator with, and then of course, in the United States right not all people were treated equally, and in fact, like some people could be owned and sold as property and women did not have any of these rights that were extensively given to all of us by God and so on Yes but now. We tend to think of those rights as not necessarily coming from God, right like lots of people who are atheists also believe in human rights. So my feeling is that like rights are so obviously just an idea and it's like the thing that like the main thing that makes me feel like a thing as a right is that I have had it. Yes and that if it was taken away, it would be. A big negative impact on my life, the unlike and that's one of the things. That's one of the things that makes the expansion of rights. So challenging for people who've been marginalized or who've been denied human rights is that the answer so often is well, you just don't understand like what we mean by the right to for get married like we know that you shouldn't have that because you haven't had it. And we know that we should have it because we have had yet. So and oftentimes like a I think an important thing to note is that like writes get a expanded like sometimes more people get rights and sometimes rates get taken away but sometimes in order to give. Like more rights to more people, you have to take some rights away from other people. Yeah. Does not the case in marriage equality obviously but it was the case with slavery like you had the right to own a person and then you didn't have that right anymore. Yeah which. So it's a positive development in the story of Human Rights Ray and as for the question of. Whether or not people have a legal right to choose whether to wear masks. The answer that question it seems to me pretty obviously is no because we regulate potentially harmful behavior in all kinds of ways. Yeah. In public spaces and in private commercial spaces, not just in terms of like you can't smoke inside of an airport, but also like you have to wear clothes. Yeah. That's. And Nakedness doesn't even give anybody a disease. Don't. Actually, not like like harmful. It's it's. To make the case especially with like like I'm I'm I'm glad that people wear closing public call me old fashioned but I am. Again. That is not the question. The question is if you have to cover your junk, should you also during a novel disease pandemic that has led to an unprecedented level of suffering at least within the last century? Should you also have to cover your mouth and the answer is yes. We figured it out. You do not have a right to not wear a mask clearly for a number different reasons. The main one being that the government can definitely require you to put things on your body does agree it's a great way of putting it. Hank. Unless you're in your own home and then you don't have to wear a mask or any closes that's up to you. Yeah. I you do you until you're near me and then you do us I. Yeah. Wow you did it. John, you thought you solved it. You do you until you do until you're near me than you do us and can we just in? America can we just do us? Which reminds me the today's podcast is brought to you by us. US. US It's like you but me to. Talk has also brought to you by ill sex ill sex. Still one of the mysteries anthony by gusts, of course, brought to you by Green Bunnies, Green Bunnies, not on my top trillion list of concerns, and finally this podcast is brought to you by doctor's office market research doctor's office market research which. The new fad a lot of people are going to go to prison. We'll supreme message from EMU from New Jersey to Hang John. That's US Inc. Hey, I'm one of the horde of nerd fighters who passively consumes your content, but there's a weird imbalance there you both have so profoundly changed my life for the better I feel strong desire to thank you and to know that my expression of gratitude has found you and his mattered to use on behalf of Nerd Factoria. This personal message is for both of Y'all for making us better people. Thank you. That is very, very kind very thank you. Thank you. The gratitude goes both ways we feel really deeply grateful. Yes. That that you are on the other end of the line, John I forgot to mention the green for question. Oh God we're go cow could we possibly go deeper? It's just okay I talked about this for so on that Slavs do have green for this is short. fact, but they have green for because they have a symbiotic relationship with the algae that live on there for. So that's what I was Gonna ask like it seems to me that there is a lot of green in the world and why don't more furry organisms get some of that sweet sweet Cora Phil Well Yeah turns out that chlorophyll is a a good way making an energy if you don't need to use it ton right animals just need more than it's Basically like the solar powered car thing, it's like, why don't we make solar powered cars like is not enough space on a car to create enough energy to move car, and that's the situation with animals like we we need to eat the stuff that spent a lot of time creating energy in order to to move are like big fast bodies around and I don't think anybody ever looked at me and said like that guy's about to move his big fast body around. But as he moves a lot at the tree. I mean, it depends on the tree take take pride. Alright. Agreement of the question comes from Elaine who writes dear John and Hank. My name is Elaine mannered fighter from Pheru I turned fifteen nearly one month ago and my uncle asked, what should he give me as a gift and I told him I wanted a book that had just come out. He said that he expected me to say a phone or clothes, but that he would be happy to get the book. It has been three weeks. everyone is talking about how great this book is I don't have evidence Hank that it's your second novel a beautifully foolish. Endeavor. But I'm imagining that it is. Yeah. Everyone is talking about how great is book is still don't have. It should go to a local store to buy it myself or should I wait for my uncle? My uncle lives thirty minutes away from me and lockdown is finally over in my city if that helps any sincerely late. I've been in this situation before. Yeah. Where you're like I I've had experiences like this before where somebody asks you what you want. You tell them then you feel obligated not to get the thing that you want. Yes. Because you're waiting for them to give it to you. Yes and they have they forgotton yes. But you can't like call them and be like, Hey, did you forget about that gift that you promised to give me because that's rude but you also like WanNa read the book that this is the problem I have in general. With gift giving these days. I feel like I'm going to point in my life where it's very difficult for me to want something that I don't already know. I want right right. The best gifts when you're surprised you like, I do want that but I didn't know insisted yeah although that isn't for the record Elaine's exact knob one because she knows exactly what you want and she asked for it and it is both like who s expensive and cooler than the phone or clothes that were on offer Yup and yet somehow it still has not. Arrived and this Elaine is why from now on not with everyone but certainly with this uncle, you ask for money. Or. A phone. No you just you just say you know what? Uncle I want a book, but I remember last year. and. So what I would really like his money with which to buy a book. But I think you just go ahead and get the book now and you end up with two copies of the book you give one of the Milwaukee. Yeah. I think that might be what you do. All right. Before we go with the all important news from ours and AFC Wimbledon here's a question from Joe Joe who asks dear Hank Job does our solar system have a name during my extra time in quarantine I've been doing some preliminary googling about. Solar. Systems and our solar system should be referred as our solar system or these solar system. It does have a name what is it, and if it doesn't why not there many sewer systems beyond our own. So it would help to differentiate hours of data specific name right wishing you good Mojo Joe Joe John Degrade name specific sign off it is our solar system has a name. It does have a name it's called the solar system as correct. Do you? Is this system that is around Seoul yeah or the Sun. If you will rate the so up to the our son has a name, our star yet our that our planet revolves around that star is called soul right and this system around it is called the solar system. Yeah and so like around another star few around Centauri that would be the office entire system right and fortunately would not be the. Entire Y'all system or The problem with this is that people often refer to? Yeah. Alpha's Tories Solar System yes, and that is not a solar system but no, but scientists do this all the time. But also again if we are going to rank the problems. Right, somewhere below green born is. There will come a time when this will be important and we'll have to so. This is like a chance to look at a thing that we're doing right now that's going to cause a problem for us in the future, but it doesn't create enough of a problem for us right now, and that will to have sympathy for the people in the past who created problems for us that we're dealing with. Now sort of except that I don't actually think it's going to be a problem in the future just as in. Nineteen eighty-six everyone was saying you can't say ATM MACHINE BECAUSE ATM stands for Automatic Teller Machine and you're saying automatic teller machine machine and you know what the solution to that was nobody cares. Everything's Fine I posit that at some point in the future, it will be a problem if we keep calling all these solar system solar systems because maybe we will be visiting them and we can't call them solar systems anymore Monsanto. Could say office Tori Solar System we visited it was great but. Not as good as our solar system, but a good one know that because so either we have to do one of two things. We either have to name our solar system something else and keep all of the other solar systems called solar system or we keep ours named solar system and we call the others ones something else, and that is what we have chosen to do. Already, we call them planetary systems that is the technical term for a solar system. Just nobody uses it okay. We're moving on Felicia wrote Hank to say, dear, John and Hank recently John has been talking about how Liverpool just won the League for the first time in thirty years or whatever. Yeah. But didn't that happen last year at least I distinctly remember talking on the podcast about Liverpool winning and how he cried with a bunch of strangers in a bar or something I believe it was in several episodes. Actually I'd be thankful for some clear. John I'm also confused so this is something Sarah's pointed out to me many times when I'll be like watching a soccer game in crying and I'll tell her like this hasn't happened in fifty years and she'll be like you know every week something happens that hasn't happened in Fifty Years Liverpool won the Premier League for the first time in thirty years this year last year Liverpool. Won Champions League, which is a different competition in which all the best teams from Europe play against each other so English teams played German and Russian and Spanish and Italian and Irish Hungarian. Teams Not Irish actually, but you get the picture. Okay. So that wasn't there even really a league it's not a league it was more, but it is a competition. So so like in the United States most sports teams play in only one competition like if you're an NFL team, you only play in the NFL season but in soccer in the United States and elsewhere teams play in multiple competitions at the same time or in the same season So that's why last year I was celebrating winning one trophy and this year I'm celebrating winning a different trophy does do. Is it common for Liverpool to win as we have one in the last two years four major trophies. No it is not uncommon by still feels good. Maybe it's about to be common. Yeah. It's good to don't feel good. I am sorry for that confusion and that Front Thank yes AFC Wimbledon also play in multiple competitions they play in the FA Cup, a knockout competition with all the other teams in England they also play, of course, league one, the third tier of English football and in League one, and in the FA Cup we're going to have basically. Team, it's very exciting. Already introduced you to Ali are gigantic new striker Yup small big very, very, very big very small bottom. So last year we had a really good player from Finland named Marcus fours. And we liked that so much that we've decided to sign a new player from Finland named Jakko Jakko Jakko okay, J. A. K. Wait for it. K- oh. Wow. Double Cat guy case can have enough case. We've also signed a guy named Ethan chip's `let from the fifth tier of English football. So that's exciting. But the most exciting thing that happened this week hank involved one of Wimbledon's youth players who is coming up to the senior team. We we have a, we have a seventeen year old kid named Troy Shabi who? Has scored four goals in our last two preseason games. Now, both of these Games have been against lower league opponents but none the less four goals. Any seventeen he is like I watched a video of him. He went to like AFC Wimbledon summer camp and he was he was the like team cook and I watched a video of him talking about cooking his spaghetti as. And you could feel the confidence dripping off of this guy I mean you feel a this is a guy who believes his spaghetti and believes in his ability to take the dawn's to the promised. Land and I I'm all in on this kid. We've we've done it before where we take homegrown players and bring them into the senior team players like we'll nightingale and I think that Troy could be the newest AFC Wimbledon superstar imagining a video of trudgy obvious scoring a goal but it's from the farthest away that they could get the camera. This is a pretty low quality videography of the PRESEASON Games for sure. A. But I believe you and I'm excited and a do you who whose, who is named? Do I remember from the current AFC will dame de is still have. We still have Joe Pigott Yup we still Joe. Pigott. We still have will nightingale. We still have toby civic. We have more players from last season than we usually have and most of the players who moved on Wor I would say either peripheral or beginning to become less popular with the fans. Yeah. It's GonNa. Be really difficult. This year because the budget is has been completely. I think this is the case for. A lot of league one teams the budget has been completely up ended. By covid, a huge percentage of these teams budgets come from in person season ticket S, and so it's going to be hard. But you know we're GonNa do our best Yep House, Mars. Mars. Is Good John and the perseverance rover is on its way and is doing some important work on its way. For example, it's charging the batteries of its helicopter. Really Great Center, it's using its using solar power. So there are six batteries on board, the genuity helicopter, and that will be hopefully the very first helicopter to ever fly on another planet whenever you just Mars it's currently lying on the belly, the rover in interplanetary space, and on August seventh NASA used charged from the rovers power supply. Oh, charged the helicopter for the first time at took eight hours to get it to thirty five percent, which is it's optimal. Charge for keeping battery health, the fact that they can charge the battery is very good an important for establishing that everything's gone. Okay with the launch. So powers advisor working both on the rover and the helicopter, and once it arrives on Mars it will be deployed on some test flights and subsequently will be charged using a solar panel rather than the Rovers onboard batteries. Cool. So that happened in space in the middle of space that's I mean that is pretty mind blowing. How long is it gonNA take to get the helicopter to Mars and the rest of the rover? Yeah. CAN ANYTHING GO wrong? Is there anything that I should be worrying about Hank, during this journey so it will be landing on February. Eighteenth Twenty, twenty, one. Okay. A few more months. Can things go wrong? Yes or so things that can go wrong. There's no like any big big lake moments when things are more likely to go wrong there, of course, corrections and. There are times on different lake turn on or there's different ways of communicating with it but but for the most part, the thing that you're going to want to be really nervous about happens on February eighteenth twenty twenty one. Oh, believe I'll be sued we nervous come February. Yeah. I'm just wondering if I need to have a background worry. Yeah it'd be great if I did it because I actually I know this is going to surprise you but I already have some. Yeah if I die, if I don't need to have a background worry about the perseverance rover than I than I walked, right? Yes. Think you should just concentrate on the Rubik's cube and all and all the other things that are more important than green, bunnies? Great. Well, thanks to everybody for sending their questions. You can email us at Hank and John. gmail.com. We love your questions. Thank you for sending them. We're off to record our patron only podcast. I could find out more about that Patriot dot com slash. Your hand can John is where we talk about stuff ideally stuff that's making us feel not terrible right now I'm sure that this episode about the Rubik's Cube podcast is produced by Roseana Hall throw insured Gibson It's edited by Joseph Tuna Mesh Communications coordinator is Julia Bloom the music. You're hearing now and the beginning of the podcasts by the GonNa roll up as they say in our hometown don't forget to be awesome.

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253: Tensor Tympani Work With Me

"Each. Listener supported W NYC studios. Hello and welcome. Dear. Hank. Aaron John. John and Hank podcast for two brothers can't even maintain a high energy level through the intro. Oh, I thought I. I actually thought that I was sounding positive and cheerful that sound negative. I couldn't I couldn't hold onto through the first sentence. Yeah. Well, the first three word, what we do here is we answer your questions we with dubious advice we bring you all the week's news from Mars, AFC Wimbledon. We stare into the middle distance wondering how we're going to make it through this John last You know we've been talking on this podcast a lot about bad accents but I would like to now have you listened to the worst accent here is. Sh Sh sh. Who are in what was that? That was dark temptation. Dark. Bodies Spray it is an. Set So. Only. I worked on. Time. It's good. It's very Good as a dad joke guests. Kept delivering. Yeah really you off kept on your heels their balance that cheered me up considerably. I wonder if we should address. An issue that has been on on on both of our hearts pretty heavily. Do you think that there is any way that this will still people remember this a week from now I think we could jog there and yes I do think that there is a chance because the thing about the thing about the Song all-star and the thing about the band smashmouth is that they have sailed through the calmest seas for nineteen years and nothing that they could do could mess up the perfect trajectory of their stupid one hit until. I got. I mean I'll just I'll let me know what they've been up to let me tell you what bothers me about smashmouth playing a concert in south. Dakota in front of hundreds of people. In August of twenty twenty, it's not that decisions like that. Writ large are the reason why millions of kids can't go to school although that is frustrated what gets me about smashmouth playing a concert in South Dakota? In August of twenty twenty in front of maybe a thousand people not wearing masks. Is that smashmouth has plenty of money either doing. Okay. They are fine. HAVE NOT I don't I don't have access to Steve's bank account they're good I think he's doing okay. They have all star the song that has been played more in the last nineteen years than any other song it is unfortunately the yesterday of the twenty first century. Somehow somehow and like, and like can't you just be grateful for that Yeah Yeah you just think wow, what a wonderful thing to have happened to be despite the fact that it's like other. Okay. Song I. Think since I can stay home I will stay home. But Also like do you like that deal like I don't know it's August in South Dakota you want to go to South Dakota right now. That was you want hey, can I have spent an inordinate amount of time thinking about the Song All-star? Yes. Like truly more than than anyone else on earth like maybe except for maybe. We might have thought more about the song than Steve His thought about selling Steve of course, being the lead singer of smashmouth. We don't know his last name. That's one of things we haven't found out in our thirty thousand dollars just thinking. About Smash all-star it starts with an agent ends in an L. I can tell you that I already regretted like ninety six percent of the time. I've spent thinking about smashmouth all star. Now I regret a full hundred percent of the only silver lining to any of us is that thank God. We didn't do your proposed four hundred seventy art video series where we make video analyzing each shot of the All star music video because now we would be like eighty episodes into that. We would both hate it in the same way that we are both deeply resentful of certain other all-star related projects, and we would still have like four hundred videos to go and we have to make those four hundred videos while knowing that smashmouth is part of the twenty twenty problem. Yeah. Yeah. That's that is a that is the thing I have been expecting one of us to make video it that that it's sort of a like takes on the topic of when you start doing a thing and then like you're a certain way through it and you realize that like it's not that great do you finish right or? In just bear it and be like well, at least at the end like there will be this feeling of I accomplished the thing or do you just do like leave it hanging their way done or or worse than that? Like like seventy five percent of the way I hope you will make this video hank and I. Hope you'll begin the video by saying, say you're seventy five percent of the way into a really stupid project that you already like semi regret that like you originally started to try to bring people joy. This boy it's become like a catalogue of absurdities, but you can't figure out a way out of it, and then at that very moment smashmouth plays. Concert in. South Dakota. How do you move forward? And you could call video or you could call the video, hit the ground running. Oh God we don't know anything about our relationship with all star must be so confused right now but like. I don't want to explain to them. Okay. Yeah. Great. But it's not your. Yeah. Let's just let's just move on this first question comes maisy who writes dear John and Hank I was banning the ceiling in my bedroom listening to smash mouth's all star and it got me thinking at what point to the layers of paint Meka. Volume of a room. Oh. Okay. This is. This is a great question because it raises the possibility of a really beautiful and cool art project wherein you paint a room over and over and over and over and over again until you eventually literally like paint yourself into a corner. Oh, like you paint yourself into into a situation that you can't get out of I find that like a very beautiful idea for. Conceptual Art, but that is not MAZEY's question. The phrase paint yourself into a corner except like that, you have to like step on some wet paint no like you die there. Yeah. It's like the Casket Vermont Toledo do do you have to Chisel your way out of the wall behind you and then and then what you've got John is a couple of things. But. One of them is a really giant supply of four night when I went to visit the barges world's artist ball of paint, which is this idea in reverse and it is you know slowly taking up all the space inside of the room that it's inside of the he he occasionally clips off paint from the bottom because it drips down and starts to touch the floor because the ball is. Too Big and and those clippings are basically like stones with gorgeous layers of upon layer of paint and they look really really cool and this is a thing it's called four-night and it's when at car manufacturing plants they spray paint the cars. But then like paint falls in certain areas over and over and over again, and that is actually harvested by jewelers and they carve that paint stuff into like. Stuff. For pendens surfer rings and it's called four and you can buy it on Oetzi and I think it's super cool. That is cool. So you have created a massive amount of fort and Fort isn't like. It costs money you've by it. So maybe you've just got like a goldmine there, you'd also have to buy like the four hundred, million layers of paint that would be required to exercise this issue at probably not super super cheap. All right. Yeah. As he goes on to say, apparently, you're supposed to rethink ceilings every ten to fifteen years and most people repaint their walls more often than that. So are all rooms shrinking? Yes they are and it appears I've done I've done a little a little research here per coat of primer is about Twenty five microns. So that's a millionth of a meter. So you'd have to paint a lot but yes, you are sacrificing some of your cubic footage to paint when you paint. So if you want to do the math take take what what you will from twenty five microns but it's GonNa be a while. I wouldn't worry about your particular wells macy unless you're conceptual artists and you're looking to do something really cool. That will take you like three or. Four lifetime's next question comes from poppy who has steer Hankins John. Why can't we hear we yawn yawn during the pot and I'm worried I. missed something very witty and insightful poppy go percentage chance they're punks. Yeah. I wouldn't be worried about that specific thing. There's also a button on your on your phone that will let you go backward if you're that worried about it, but I wouldn't be but so. The turns out that. There is a muscle in your ear that protects you from yourself and that if we didn't have it, the sound of our own thing would overtime deafen us swatow really what's the muscle called? It's called the tensor Tiffany who and when it contracts does something to your eardrum to make it basically not be able to hear as well and this it will actually do that if you are exposed to allow noise. So it doesn't contract immediately. So like like A. Short, loud noise is more dangerous than a prolonged loud noise though pronged Rodman. Also something that you should you should be careful of. So it actually contracts for a couple of different reasons. One is our jaws are moving just to protect our ears from the sounds of our own jaw muscles while which is gross and also chewing, which can be very loud if you're having something crunchy. So wait but at why when I'm like eating doritos and watching TV. It starts to feel not only like the sound of my chewing loud but also like the sound of the TV is farther away. Yes. Yes. So it's not just the cheer all. Also a also a muscle in your ear, making it harder for you to hear protecting you from Doritos, which would otherwise actually damage your hearing. You know the way that it is blowing my mind most deeply is that it makes okay. The greatest movie ever made my favorite film penguins of Madagascar even one gavel better because there is a cheesy dibble's joke in penguins of Madagascar that's one of the greatest jokes ever captured in the history of cinema. where the main character is being told by the organization that's come to save the Penguins, the north wind that they are a highly trained organization that cares deeply about animal welfare but the Penguin is eating cheesy dibble's and so every time the guy starts talking the penguins like I'm sorry I can't hear you got the JICI Dibble's they just haven't had these days. There's a good thing that is deeper for me about that joke right now that it was three minutes ago is that like the cheesy Dibble's thing is the penguins way of like self reflexively not hearing this Voice of the anthroposophic scene saying, Oh, we care so much about animals but only cute ones like you it. It's like Oh my God. It's a great movie. It's so deep. It's so deep and you know the tensor tiffany also can contract when you hear loud noises. So it actually has an effect dampening loud noises to protect your hearing if only, it could do that for certain people's voices. Yeah. Who I am tired of hearing this the year of twenty twenty and would just rather not have to hear anymore tensor tippety work with me the needed to collaborate more effectively. I get so mad when people don't like penguins of Madagascar like sometimes we'll be conversation with somebody. I'll tell them that I really like hang magazine and they'll think that it's like a thing that I'm putting on the like Oh. Yeah. That was an okay movie like it wasn't like wally. No, it wasn't like wally because it's five hundred times better. Wally is a movie that. is about exactly what it pretends to be about whereas Gas Car is both is about everything it's about was. Works on every level imaginable. It's like citizen Kane or ulysses like it. God It's next question comes from Joey who writes if it is true that the universe is both infant and always expanding like constantly inflating balloon. Jewelry, get this everybody says it's like a causley inflating balloon accepted a balloon has an edge, right? No that doesn't John not the not the two dimensional part. It's not the balloon getting bigger. It's the elastic getting bigger. The elastic is the edge. There is a place that is beyond the boo. Fear there is no edge to a sphere. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. There's no edge. There's no edge in the same way. There's no edge to the earth but there there is a there is a thing and the thing has limits and it is finite. Yes and the and the limits like edge. In the most yet wait you don't WanNa. Think about a constantly expanding balloons. You WanNa think about on infinitely large sheet of balloon material that is constantly being stretched out. So it is both infinitely large but also stretching, that's what you want to think of accepted three-dimensional imagine a t shirt except that it's infinitely large I can't wear the are. Okay all right. Continue. The question anyway does this all mean that we are always? To I don't mean we are we growing because. We're all growing psychologically and emotionally or whatever I like what's going on with empty spaces in my body are they getting bigger and I just don't notice it because everything else empty spaces also getting bigger to how much bigger is the universe inside me since I started writing this email how loudly should I scream and constant care about the fact that I am expanding alongside? The Universe Joey. So you you are being held together. Joey, by a bunch of forces and those forces still act over the same distance and so the the universe expands, but we like the things that are being held together by forces don't expand. So we are not getting bigger but not noticing though that would be really cool and physics had played that out I would've. been like I guess. So I guess that's what the cosmologists say so I guess we're all just you know over the last two, hundred, thousand years humans have gotten like two inches bigger because the universe is expanding but the universe expands, but the forces continue to hold things that are being held together by forces together in the same way they were held together before if. That made any sense I mean it didn't but to be fair, it also does it make any sense that the universe is both infinite and expanding and doesn't have an edge and you should imagine it as a balloon but not like a balloon because it's infinite and I the thing I've had come to understand is that to comprehend this, I would need a different brain. And I would. I would I would feel completely hopeless about it like I'm just never going to understand how the universe can be infinite in expanding and have no edge except that I was completely hopeless about ever solving a Rubik's cube because I I don't know my left or my right and can't navigate my way home from my best friend's house. But now I can solve a Rubik's cube not only can solve a Rubik's cube, but I can like consistently solve a Rubik's cube in under three minutes and occasionally in in under two minutes, and so having solved the Rubik's cube through the tutorial made by Robbie Gonzales I. Now feel like maybe I'm just one Robbie Gonzalez's tutorial away from understanding how the universe is infinite, but also expanding this next question comes from. Yes mean who asks dear. Green brothers why does `gate-keeping happen like it just doesn't make sense to me why people wouldn't want to share the thing they love and talk about it and get excited about it with others yet for some reason, it happens all the time and even I kind of feel that way sometimes I don't get it. Humans are weird. Maybe you guys could give me some insight sincerely yes, mean pronounced. Yes. Mean though I try to be. Yes. Nice. So I think the word `gate-keeping has changed a lot since I originally learned its meaning in the early two thousands so you may have to redefine the word for me. It meant the people who decide like critics librarians right now who are on award committees and the institutions like publishing houses and movie studios that decide what kinds of work gets access to a large audience, but it seems like maybe some of those definitions have changed or evolved based on Yes means question. Yeah, I think that's true. There's definitely the idea of the gatekeepers, but now I think `gate-keeping is talked about as a way of like You can't come into this phantom unless you have certain. Okay I can't believe you don't know this and right like you're not a real k pop fan because you don't follow this or you don't know this or whatever right and I think that this exists in all kinds of things I, think it's true in sports and and I think it's yes in in politics and and to some extent I think there's like we have our own personal experiences of how we started to engage with this stuff and if your experiences are different, it's almost like I don't. Understand how you can love this if you don't have my experience into it because that that's how I love it, and so it's legal literal failure of empathy which I think does happen like we fail it empathy all the time as humans. Yeah. There's also the fact that empathy is built to be limited like We all felt the death of right. Each person who dies as if it were someone in our family, it would be difficult to function. Yes. But when it comes to those barriers to fandom. I I also think there's an element of trying to establish WHO's in. Yeah. By establishing WHO's out trying to establish who's good. By establishing WHO's definitely not and you know people who are seen to have to be hopping on the bandwagon or whatever. Are Treated or in some communities are treated like they aren't real fans. My favorite fan communities are the ones that are like, Hey, welcome on the bandwagon you are one hundred percent. Welcome. Here's some stuff that you might WanNa know to help you on this sweet bandwagon ride were on. Yeah. Yeah. We're so happy to have you. Yeah. Openly embraced them for who they are for where they are. That's the coolest thing. The second coolest thing I think I'm excited is when you know a lot about something but you like the popular thing anyway like a huge fan of Hank's books and somebody says, well. So who's your favorite character and you say Maya now's the obvious answer like. She's the charismatic person the kindest person in the books and you could say, I, don't know. Carl. It's way cooler in my opinion to say my So I think like being infectiously enthusiastic and not being pretentious about your enthusiasms. Right is is a wonderful thing. Yeah and that's I and I also think it's really important to allow for people to be at different places and to be enthusiastic when they are when they say something that you kind of might feel as a little bit of like like if you're in this super into beer and the person is like I'll just have a corona and you're like, that's great. Yeah I got that's wonderful. Hey, wrong with the corona create or or merely an enjoyable beer. or I'll just have a lucrative fine. That's yeah. That's probably better for you in the end definitely definitely we were counter. Which reminds me that stays podcast is brought to you by corona flavored Lacroix. Criminal. Lacroix, it's only a matter of time. I guess also brought to you obviously by the penguins who live in Madagascar. Thank. God you really haven't seen the movie the. The flightless birds that live upon the island of Madagascar are there penguins that move on Madagascar? There aren't there is also, of course, brought to you by an infinite piece of balloon material. that. Because it is infinite has no edge, but is nonetheless expanding into something, but that something is get this nothing. I I can't help I'm sorry it's podcast is also brought to you by John Green consistently solving Rubik's cubes and under three minutes John Green consistently solving Rubik's cubes in under three minutes seems unlikely and yet this is what the Pandemic Hath wrought. It's I mean now I dream of Rubik's cubes and in my dreams like I'll wake up and I'll be like, okay. So that would be our UK prime. Are you are to you prime L. AT CRIME? Be It's Oh my God I can't stop myself. Thank. That's very weird. We got a pretty gross message also Jonah's from Kate a California to Tj happy tenth anniversary you are my best friend and my soup snake I don't think that was an auto correct mistake I think that's actually what it's supposed to say and we hope that that's a personal thing. They Hugh for putting up with my nonsense and for all that you do for our family. Love you so much that this is the my only chance to convince John and Hank to be my best friends and instead I'm spending it on you. Sixteen years together has been amazing and I can't wait to see where this adventure goes next I M Y, A. Whatever that is, I mean you always I miss you always maybe. I is Mars your all-star. I hope not I hope not I. Really Hope it isn't I hope that you're all star is something that smashmouth stay the heck away from. This question comes from Lindsey who has your hand can John Mostly Hank I recently moved to Missoula and though I've known for a long time about the M. on the top of the hill actually three quarters of the way up the hill I had no idea that there was an l. on the adjacent hill. Why is there an L. on the hill none of my house mates? No. So we've resorted to guessing that there. Are Hills all across the state that spell out Missoula of order like giant law scrabble pieces any dubious enlightenment would be appreciated. The L. Probably does not stand for Lindsey. It does indeed not Stanford Lindsey. So for context, if you visit Missoula, Montana, which is a fairly small town I believe Hank is actually the third largest employer in. Mizzou. That's not true I'm not no. The third largest employer is a cafe that's also a casino. Anyway when you go to Mizzou almost anywhere you are in the valley, you can look up and see this gigantic white m that's like three quarters of a mountainside, and you can also see tiny little people walking up a series of switch backs visit this end, which gives you a sense of like the overall quality of tourist attraction. Mostly. Not Going to see the m though there is a bit of that I guess a little bit. You're going to see the am but then you turn around and it's a nice view of the city. It's mostly what you're going for. Right but no one goes like past the AM. Views even better on top of the 'EM, but I've never seen anybody up there. Weirdly, if you continue going up from the Mu you can if you are if you are clever enough, find a weird cave. Of Drug. Apparel what I. Don't think you know what a payroll is. Yeah. Not a payroll her. That word paraphernalia. That's the word. But I really like the idea of drugs. They just have. Fun, we'd certain. Action of free t shirts with marijuana on the anyway on the other side of the somewhere else on a different mountain about three-quarters louise a gigantic white L. and I have never understood what what is the deal with l.? M. Stands for the University of Montana but I do not know what the Hell is about. This this is confusing. So some people think that the M stands for Missoula. It apparently actually does for Montana, the University of Montana which the that part portion of the hill is owned by the universe. If so if you WanNa visit the m you have to park at the university but I've always wanted it to Stanford Zula, but it doesn't alas the thing that I tell people because the story is actually not great and it kind of is to sort of frustrating to me the story I tell people is that all of the mountains in Montana earliest in alphabetical order and he's got 'em and then lake down the way there's Oh that's funny or an. And comes after. It's fine doing great. He's don't like. The L. stands for Loyola, which is a private school. It's not a particularly big. Not Private School that abuts that mountain even and so there was a there was at some point a reason why they got permission to put the L. up on the mountain but there are other schools and none of them got a mountain, and so I in general find this to be a both disappointing and also questionable well, I love the idea of increasing Montana tourism by making it so that twenty six of your mountains have gigantic letters. On them and people then would try to like do all twenty six letter mountains in one week or whatever I think that that could be big big thing. I think I know that you're looking for your next big idea for your next big project and I think that it could be purchasing and labeling obscure Montana mountains. Yeah. It should be a Jay because the mountain called Mount Jumbo, which is just like a lot. Is it really? What are we gonNA call this one found jumbo. It's big. It's pretty big snug super big but it's pretty big. What about jumbo? Mount Jumbo okay. Before we get to the important news for Mars and AFC Wimbledon, we do need to address one issue that came up in our radius episode that we got a lot of responses about which was your purportedly British pronunciation of compost. Still hurts my heart. One thing that everybody who wrote in from the United Kingdom agreed about whether Scottish Northern Irish well English is that your pronunciation was wrong but many Welsh people felt that it was Scottish many Scottish people. And many Northern Irish people felt that it was. Well, it was. Like how in the old days? Everybody Italy called syphilis, the Polish disease and in and they called the German disease and in Germany they called it the Italian. But but Jake wrote in to say Dear John and Hank. And I've others is really fascinating. Hey with the stress on the second syllable of to compost and Youtube. Wondered event something do with Hank's inherent desire to have a British accent I don't think it did rights jake, but there is actually a good linguistic. For what happened in that moment. In English, there are a number of words that are both nouns and verbs when these words are multi celebic often, but not always because God knows nothing is always in English. The Noun has the stress on the first syllable, and the verb has the stress on the second syllable. For example, a project becomes to project a record becomes too. You have a conflict but things conflict. Rain like many native English speakers brains has internalized this rule without knowing it. So when he encountered the verb to compost, he automatically applied the rule my mind is blown. Isn't that amazing you apply That you didn't know about and that's why you said to come past. Okay I just switched it because the now compost and I was like, okay. Then the verb would be COMPA ST-. Nj. Causes all this because as well as having studied college level linguistics I made the same mistake myself last year with the verb to surface I pronounced it like surf as. Much, as John did with Hank my friends rightly roasted Vedra anxious sleep and speak soundly knowing that there's a good reason why he said that it was just as brain being a little too observant well, much appreciated John. Much. It. Agreeing me from the burden of believing that I had said compost incorrectly for some British reason instead, it was just a normal normal language reason. This. Gone worse than I expected. I thought it was going to go bad. I haven't been so upset with someone whose work I admired since earlier today when smash. Oh God. John it's time for the Important News From and AFC Wimbledon. Do you have any Wimbledon? ooh, I have Wimbledon News. Oh I Have Wimbledon News tank we have signed. The great hope of our next season six foot five inch tall `Ali. Palmer. Who are you talking about? All you last time I know, but we hadn't signed him and now we have. Okay we've signed him up Hank. We are officially back to an old school proper Wimbledon side on my favorite soccer podcast men in Blazers. They often observed that there are broadly speaking to kind of soccer players. There are big bottom smalls. With very large bottoms and then there are small bottom of banks which are big people with very small bottles. Those sort of broadly speaking the two categories of professional soccer players. I for so long for like two and a half seasons. When we play with two strikers at all, we have been playing with two big bottom smalls. And now, and now I'm in a situation where I am looking really hard for a picture of Ali. Palmer's bottom. Hey others. One I'll just tell you with the emergence of six foot five inch Ollie, Palmer we now have a big autumn small and a small bottom big which is just what you want leading the line for AFC Wimbledon in the let's hope it happens twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty, one season. This makes me WANNA. Listen and Blazers Great. A great five guys. I mean they taught. They taught like Leo Messi is the ultimate big bottoms of all right I mean just a brilliant. Brilliant. Small. Small. Whereas Cristiano. Rinaldo also one of the best players in the world. Small bottom big. John I'm excited for you excited for AFC Wimbledon. There is bars news as there is every week There is a picture of Mars night glow, which is a thing that happens on. Mars so the Maven mission took some pictures of the night glow a set of ultraviolet flashes that are created by the creation of nitric oxide I observed by the ESA's as Mars Express spacecraft it's as bright as our own. Northern Lights, but you can't see it because it's an ultraviolet. So it's not visible to our eyes, but these pulses do allow us to understand more about Mars is atmosphere they're created win wins moving along the surface of Mars, send gases to denser parts of the atmosphere that catalyze reactions that create nitric oxide and looking at it. Scientists are hoping that maybe they can understand more about how air moves around in Martha's atmospheres so. There's just one just one atmosphere. Yeah. So scientists are hoping to change their perspective a little bit instead of looking at the glow from above they wanNA, look at it sideways, which is going to help them more and more about the vertical winds and Mars. Is Seasons vertical winds, vertical winds way they got wind come from ups. Yeah. Windows up all the time. Right but I never feel he's mostly notice it 'cause like. You're you're you're you're always at the bottom? Oh, we are. We are never in the middle of the atmosphere were always at the very bottom of the atmosphere, right? That's like that time that you explained to me that space released starts like one inch above the ground and so like every time I jump I'm sort of being an astronaut. Yeah. I would also be the first to say that Earth is just a big spaceship. Dang wind is so weird I and and the fact that there's a lot of wind on Mars just makes me think more about how weird winds yeah. Made a little molecules to bump into you and you feel it. Yeah. I love that about I love that about air how it's like completely invisible until I moved my hands a little bit faster than there. It is right I can feel where you can feel going in and out of your lungs. Yes. That's the main thing when when suddenly this air has become a breath. The kind of like I. Made it alive. Anyway. Thanks for coming in to John and Hank God hike to the top of the and put on some stone or t shirts. Were Jumbo Weird. Well. Hang thanks as always before expanding. Gave without ever quite explaining to me how the universe can be infinite without having an edge pretend like I understand. Thank you for listening. You can email us at hank and John gmail.com. We love your emails really appreciate them. Thank you for. What podcast would we have without the this podcast is edited by Joseph Tournament produced by Roseana Hustling. Sheridan Gibson editorial assistant is to book trucker Verdy our communications coordinator as Julia Bloom the music. You're hearing now at the beginning podcast is by the great control and as they say in our hometown, don't forget to be awesome.

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267: One From the Archives

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267: One From the Archives

"Come here and hankins jaw doors for the dear john and hank it's a podcast brothers into your questions advice and bring the week's news from both mars and afc wimbledon. John just at the store trying to get a thanksgiving turkey and there just weren't there just weren't very many of them and they were all quite small and i said do they. Do they get any bigger to the to one of the boys at the grocery store and they said to me look straight in the eyes and said they said man no. They're dead a story that has obviously made up. Because of course i have not spoken to anyone in the grocery store and would not do that nor am i getting a thanksgiving turkey because of how my thanksgiving gathering will be as you might expect baseball. Yeah same here. We will be having a four person thanksgiving. We're calling it the bad thanksgiving when we're calling it. The bad thanksgiving to hopefully helping make next thanksgiving not the worst thanksgiving s. That's right. I will say this now so as a science guy very excited about. Marin vaccine very excited that they are Seemed to have high. Efficacy and bill will be available to to some people fairly soon very exciting very big news for lots of different reasons but one of the things that this means is that it is more important than ever to decrease the spread of this disease. Which i know can feel by an insurmountable problem. Sometimes but like every person who doesn't get covert in the next few months is a person who may never get covid because the vaccines will be available. So that's the thing that we're fighting for now whereas before we didn't really know what the what the end game was now we do and so now there is a very good reason to be every precaution we can because we are protecting certainly not just ourselves but also our neighbors and and all of the healthcare workers who are working very hard right now and very difficult circumstances and need our support yeah. We received lauda emails this week. From nurses and doctors in cna's and watts other people who work in hospitals Who are just under extreme extreme stress right now. And i'm so sorry and i and i don't really know what else to say like yeah. We thought about what what we can say. And all i really know how to say is that i'm sorry and i hope that things get better soon and i am sorry that that you are being asked to to do these herculean tasks in Really difficult circumstances anyway. It's a comedy podcast and we're going to answer your questions because that's what we do. That's what we do that is what we do. We have a small role to play and we will play it. It's true some people save lives with their work. Some people sit in their basement talking to their brother offering dubious advice to listeners. Who write in with ridiculous questions. Such as beginning with this one from kevin who writes dear. John and hank. How much sand can i take from the beach before it becomes immortal. Nope thanks kevin at it says. How much sand can i o coming aboard. Also matching that if you took enough sand away from the beach that the sand that you've removed from the beach would become a kind of sand monster that needs to return to the beach and then spends the rest of all time like trying to reunite with its former self and so i had to figure out how much sand it takes to make that immortal sand monster but it turns out the questions. A little bit different. The question is how much can i take from the beach before it becomes immoral. Kevin bit kevin. That's not as good of a question. Original question i mean. It's still a very good question. i like. I like it because it's not about what's legal and not legal. It's about the morality of the situation. Like what am i. What am i taking from. Like one of diminished. This shared resource. Yeah which. I think is is a great question now. Sand is pretty immortal. Does as far as things go like everything has an end but sands and is longer away. It will become a rock eventually but even then it will still be pretty sandy. Kevin the answer to your question and i. I've done some studies about this so you can't say that you can take no sandy beach because y'all humans take away from the beach. When they walk away from the beach i would love. I would love to take no sand from the beach right. If there were a way to take no sand from the beach. I would pay five dollars for that. Yes like the general rule when you're interacting with natural spaces is take nothing. Leave nothing but in the case of a beach like it forces you to take sand so the question i will come. I'm where's your our. We are friends. I will be on your car now. So the question is how much sand can you take. And i think the answer is the amount that is attached to your body. There is the right after you try to remove. All of the sand is the most sand you can take from the beach. I think after it does become unethical because if everyone was taking a two liter bottle of sand off the beach then eventually the beach would be less good right. Here's i have a different solution to this problem. Which is you can take the em- an amount of sand as long as you're not going to in some way financially benefit from the sand you can. You can't remove sand or like in a way that's like well. I need sand for this and so i'm going to instead of buying it at the store. I'm going to take it from the beach. That's definitely immoral. Yes but you can take an amount of sand. That is like a memento right and so it's beyond just like if you want to fulfill a vial with sand but like if it's a memento it isn't about the amount it's about the existence of the sand so having one of those Water jugs that you put on the water jug cooler. Is that what that's called at the workplace really. But i know what you mean. Those like ten gallon jugs you can't feel them sand. He can't yeah because that's not a momentum can fill like a test tube with sand. Yeah and then. You're like this is my test tube collection of the sands of the beaches that i go to and here's all the different sands which would actually be a very cool correct pretty cool and you can see that like usually you're like all sands are saying but then if you go to different beaches and you actually can compare them than it's becomes clear that all sounds are different. Yeah so kevin. That's the answer is we think you can take like a test tube worth of sand for your own personal appreciation and enjoyment john. I have a really important question that i need to get to immediately and it is. This question has now stretched through three episodes from beatrice. Who asks dear. Hanke john but mostly hang on episode to sixty five. You talked about how the impact of the meteor that killed. The dinosaurs was so big that a lot of stuff went into space and never came down. Does this mean that there are dinosaur fossils in space wo in the future be there will be space paleontologists not the muse beatrice. Whoa this question blew my mind my god. So here's the thing. And i don't know how to do the math on this. Because there's two things that could mean there are no bits of dinosaur and space but there they might both be not true so one is that just the process of having enough energy like put into you means that a piece of dinosaur would vaporize on its way to space and the other is that they're just like for the proportion of the earth that was hit by the asteroid. Individual dinosaurs is going to be a very small percentage and it may be so small a percentage that it is unlikely that any amount of dinosaur actually reached space but it seems totally possible to me. Think the first one the first thing definitely dinosaur teeth are just as hard as rocks and dinosaur teeth. It seems to me. I believe at this point but wouldn't they i need wouldn't they get burnt up in the atmosphere. No they're like rocks can make it then. Teeth can make it. Teeth and rocks are similar in their harnesses. Okay and so. I feel like i am willing to say that. There is a good chance that there are dinosaur at least one dinosaur tooth in space. So it's possible with all these things beyond earth's orbit or is it possible that some of them got hit so hard that they were completely the they're not even related to earth like headed out of the solar system. Ab pretty hard to escape. The solar system is my gas They could easily escape earth's orbit and be in orbit around the sun. They would have to have in the sixty five million years found some sort of stable place to exist those gravitationally stable places do exist. They may have also followed on to mars or venus which is the most likely place for them to go. Oh my god though. How cool is that hank. How was he go to mars. And we find it. We saw tooth were walking around mars looking for signs of life and we find a to like we did it. We found but no we didn't do it. It turns out that that dinosaur tooth just made the journey at made it. Oh my god that's mind blowing. I love it this. This must be how you feel when you read science fiction i love. That's so thrilling. To consider really to consider the idea that like floating around earth were more likely the sun could be dinosaur fossils. Yeah wow yeah well not even fossils 'cause like if they went into space like if there was actual flesh that went into space it would just be mummified. Your you're telling me about that over time you don't tell me what happens to flesh. It goes to space. That's one of my top twenty apocalyptic worries. Well we've got. We can talk about it more if you want because you have another question which flesh may end up in space. I'd rather not okay. I'd rather not i. You know one of the many things that we completely take for granted as humans is the atmosphere what an atmosphere no is. Great i've read so many posts on read it and facebook and twitter over the last like three weeks trying to understand the the incredibly weird times in which i find myself and not one time. Have i read a single piece of media that used to acknowledge that if it were not for the atmosphere we couldn't be having any of these incredibly stupid conversations all hail the atmosphere no gods no king only the atmosphere only this thin thin shell of gas. It's easier to get out of in terms of direction than the driving to seattle. Seattle is further away than space. John well i think it depends on where where where you are. Actually if you're in seattle it's not for you For you and and also it significantly easier to drive sideways drive up. Its through really hard to drive up. My car is never never done. That is next. Question comes from cat who writes dear. John and hank is the stereotypical pirate accent based on a real accent and if so from when and where by the way if it sounds like we're asking a lot of silly questions because we're just we are also the minute i read this question. I realized that. I've never considered the answer ended. I am completely fascinated to learn about it. Yeah when and where does the pirate accent come from. The curiosity is killing me cat. Oh that's funny nicely done. It's such a strange thing because we all know the pirate accent but we all also know if we like search deepen our souls that this isn't how pirates talked right. Yeah like we know this is made up and it turns out it was made up by a man whose name was robert newton who played long john silver and one thousand nine hundred fifty disney movie called treasure island. How really yeah. Wow yeah he made it up. He based on The west country and southwest england. Which is where he lived was also where long john silver was from in the book but not where pirates were from in real life. Oh who were from all over the place but english pirates for mostly from london. Yes it would have talked like londoners. Probably like i don't know there's a lot of different london accents so i don't know maybe a bunch of different on the accents that is fascinating and so all of the like are that that's only like fifty years old. Yeah or seventy years old forgetting that we are not actually close to the year. two thousand. Yeah because it my heart. It will always be about two thousand and three. Yes i have this problem all the time and will never stop having it but yet accents are so cool and we're often asked like. When did the american. English and british english diverge And so like. When did we stop speaking like british people as sort of the i. Guess the the root of that question but that's not how it works because british people continue to also change the way that they spoke. Yeah and so. It's not like the people in in the seventeen. Hundreds in america spoke the current british accent. They spoke the british accent. That was around. Then but since then both of those accents diverged from that common ancestor. Yes so it's much less like. We descended from chimpanzees and much more like chimpanzees and both have a common ancestor exactly. Yeah i will say that. The flat american accent that you and i not to brag are both absolute masters of what i choose to be. Sometimes i want to be a little bit british wisconsin for a year. For some reason. I could handle you going a little wisconsin for a year much more than i could handle. You bringing back your fake british accent. Just the thought of it makes like it's so no yet so just broke out into a fever. I is it which is more embarrassing. Yeah the okay here here. My two most embarrassing things. I think about a lot one my year of fake british accent for no reason. Oh my goodness so uncomfortable is a sweaty moment to. I got invited to give a fancy speech at a fancy event with lots of influential people in the audience and i decided to get up on stage and instead of wearing my landlord like a normal human. I thought i would be. I don't know innovative. But really just quirky. And so i wore the lanyard around my neck and then with my arm through it like it was a purse but it was way too tight and so it was like bunching up on. I mean chat. Well the answer. Your question is that while that second mortification is much more recent and so it feels profound. The greater mortification by far is faking a british accent. Our a year right. I disagree because i did that. Second thing when i was thirty. Five years old. Yeah i was just replaying my mortification last night at something that my brain loves to do sleep. Actually ritter nathan presumed viewed episode about this. And i was able to pull one out of the archives. You don't like sometimes you think that they're just like it's also your record collection and you're like oh yeah. I forgot that. I have that album by john coltrane. He was like. Oh yeah know. How could i have forgotten that they gotta tell me. Go that bad. Yeah i've got one that i've never told anyone. Oh based on the mortification you're willing to share the one that you aren't willing to share. It must be truly epic. Pretty bad. Much like yeah. Actually i'll i'll tell it i'll tell. Okay oh god. It's so embarrassing. So i made this video. The million views and it was the most viewed video about the conflict in ukraine at the time the conflict between eastern and western ukraine which becomes relevant and the video. Really good and all the facts in it were so so totally reliable. Except that in every time i said eastern ukraine met western ukrainian every time i said western ukraine einstein ukraine which is especially people living in those regions is a fairly large error. Yeah yeah but like. That's just like i can't i i still. I still struggle with this because in my mind things that are in the east are over toward my half of the country and things that are in the west or over toward your half of the country and so for example. I believe in my heart of hearts that great britain is in easternmost europe on account of how it is to the east of me. I understand that to other people. Great britain is in western europe. But the rest of europe is more east from you Well sure hank if you if you're extremely sophisticated analyzer of east and west. But i'm not. That's the whole problem right so when i think about like where's eastern ukraine. It's the part of ukraine closest to me. I'm on the east. i'm on. I see where you're thinking of ukraine eastern ukraine because it's closer to me than it is dank. Oh my god okay. Now i understand how he made the mistake and also the thing is. It's not that big of a detail to know if you're just trying to understand the conflict. Yeah but it's kind of just a deal but if you're there it's like it's like when and this happens to me all the time when people say to me. How long have you lived in minneapolis. And i say. I live in indianapolis and then there's a pause because they are genuinely earning that those two places are different. Yeah yeah i also often get this with missouri because missouri sound very similar to the sort of like put me in missouri in their heads yet but like they don't care they don't have a picture of what either of those places look like. No they don't they're they're they're trying to be polite. Yeah but they're like actual co stole liberal elites which did show so we would be if we were on the coast. It's true it's true but as it is. I have an extremely sophisticated understanding of what it's like to live in the middle of the country for instance. I know that missoula is to the west of indianapolis related. -ly john we have a question for from maya who asks steer hankins john. I grew up in nebraska where there's very notably a lot of corn. Now that i have moved away. I find myself missing. The russell of corn stocks in the wind the quiet commotion of harvest and the expansive cornfields on the horizon. What's the big city equivalent of a cornfield. Any response would be amazing. Maya yes so every big city pretty much in the united states has a large cemetery. That was the first thing that came to mind for me. Yeah and i'll just like the closest thing. I can get to walking through or you don't really walk through a cornfield. Sort of walk next to a cornfield. Usually maybe a public park like maybe is central park. New york's version of cornfields. I don't know i don't well. Here's the thing. I think that the people from a distance are my corn. And by which i mean the the sounds of the city. When you're not right up on it. Yeah and And so that might be from like twenty four is up or even like five fours up it might be like from aways away. It horizontally as well. But that's i love the noise of a city. As long as i'm not too close to it and i love the noise of a highway and roads like the you know that they big semi trucks when their engine breaks songs. Like not up in my head. And i used to live like on the highway and the train tracks here in missoula and initially that noise was very disruptive to me but it is like five days before it wasn't bothering me anymore and then like a few weeks before i was like i love this noise year. That's the thing like you start to associate like when we lived in new york we associated the sounds of the city except for the sounds of the pigeons who have done top of our air conditioning. Unit engaging fighting and or mating behavior other than that particular set of sounds. The sounds of the city began to feel comforting. Because i felt like. Oh i'm not alone and i felt like oh there's lots of people out and about and i can go outside and join the great human fray and that felt kind of like good so much so that when we first moved to indianapolis i remember like the first night that we slept in our in our first home. I was completely freaked out by how silent it was. And how can you be sure that it's safe. It's so quiet. Because i had begun to associate feeling safe with hearing people's voices in hearing stuff happened outside. Yeah so. I think what will actually happen. Is that slowly. The sounds of the city will replace the sounds of cornfields and then when you go back to nebraska you're gonna have your like children of the corn moment where you're like. Oh these are some weird sound stock. I think i think actually in my experience you go back to a place in and those tiny details that you didn't even really notice like they become the trigger. That brings that place back for you. And so i think that there is no equivalent to the quiet commotion of harvest in the city and the and there will never be in so like that that is part of what makes spaces and places different from one another by the way. That is a great phrase the emotion. Yeah this next question comes from payton who asked steer and john every sunday morning. I get a dreaded notification my weekly screen time report. Bogey was always so high. And i don't know how to just stop and need my phone for emergencies. Obviously but also part of my job so i can't just turn it off when my phone dings and i see that dreaded two digit daily average it makes me wanna throw my phone into the grand canyon. A help always taking a bite of the forbidden apple state. Tm trademark Payton that's a good one payton maha. My goal has always been to keep my phone screen time below an hour. A day on average walleye. Yes well yet romero email on my phone now man john. I don't want to tell you guys still really. Oh no it is not because i spend five or ten hours a day on my computer. So what what is your. What is your daily screen. Time if i if i count the computer. It's over ten hours for. Yeah of course but i mean that's where that's where i work it more so i tell myself i'm not it's also where i do a lot of other things. Yes that's all you're doing a one hundred percent also where i do. A lot of my patented preventative. Worry where. I believe that. If i just read enough about what would happen. If the atmosphere suddenly disappeared that will keep the atmosphere holding together. What is your daily screen. Time on your phone. You can look at it right now. I just do it. Go to my average is five hours and fifty one minutes but i still think that's still think that that's low. That's not low. Heck that like. If ten years ago i had told you that you would spend six hours a day on your cell phone. You wouldn't have said like oh that seems low you would have said like what did they invent to make me so addicted to it and the answer is talk. I a day. Whoa did i really. I had a day last week. That was ten hours. Oh my god. I think i was watching a lot of tv on my phone that day. But but yeah payton the thing that you highlight here is the thing that so challenging. Which is that we cannot simply say like. I don't want this anymore. Because i need a lot of things on my phone. I need google apps and lots of other apps And so how do you get the stuff. That's useful and not get the stuff that you are vulnerable to not get the stuff. That sucks you. In and hijacks your consciousness and uses your attention to turn it into a monetize -able asset. Yeah i think. It's also i don't want us to treat screen time like calories. Where like we. We have decided that this thing is bad and so we must be ashamed of all of the ones that we consume calories also. Shouldn't treat calories like calories. yes exactly calories. Our food and like without them would die the end so primarily they. They are helpful. And i think that like in many cases screen time is helpful. We shouldn't be looking at screen. Time is one thing and we need to recognize. When are the times when this is making both like me. And also my world worse which i think plenty of the time that i spend on twitter is that but there's also the time when we're like that's making life better for me and for other people that i'm spending time on my phone and i and i'm trying to focus more on those things. It's run arzi it. Yeah like really hard because as you know nothing gets my brain worked up quite like the opportunity to check and that's what twitter and reddit and facebook are really really good at is getting you to check and then offering you rewards based on a random number of times checked. So i'm not saying i'm immune to it. I'm saying that. I'm like directly deeply troubled by it and i'm not trying to be critical of twitter or facebook. I'm i'm only trying to be critical of my use of twitter and facebook which like disturbed me. Yeah i become a person even on sports twitter. Like i become a person that i'm just not proud of house to say. Yeah i. It's funny. Because i like i know i know that and i think okay i seem to do more tweets that i'm proud of and then i do it for two days and then i like will i see a really good opportunity for a tweet that i feel like it's gonna be so good. I'm not going to be proud of it. But it's gonna be good and then i tweeted and then and then i fall back into well and also those are the ones that get all the lakes and the re tweets like those are the ones that get the most some i mean. That's not always like actually most of the ones that of my tweets that get most of the are just funny jokes like that and like. That's what i'm focused on. Because i think that's what twitter's actually good for i would i would. Just i just want to state for the record that i don't agree the the funny i. I think their jokes. You can't call your own jokes funny. I should remind you that. Today's podcast is brought to you by hanks. Funny jokes hanks. Funny jokes re tweeted since two thousand and eight. Not because they're funny though just because they jokes the fact that is also brought to you by eastern ukraine ukraine. It's on the west side of ukraine. 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This isn't like Every time you buy a pair of socks we don't need a pair of socks. No all all the profits go to charity. After-tax have to pay taxes so make your ankles a little happier and also make the world a little better. Yeah let's take down big suck. You know i'm tired of socks. Making billionaires shouldn't be billionaire sock sock magnates. sorry should i do you like do you like the painting or should i say i think that's good. I think that there are any billionaire. Sock mag of course there are all right before we get to the l. Important news from mars afc wimbledon. I want to ask this question from be who writes dear. John and hank cradle my mug of hot tea. I keeping it warm or my cooling it down faster by absorbing its heat. Thanks for your help be Well i mean it doesn't matter because you're 'cause like you're not trying to keep it warm that's not your whole in cradling your mug your goal is to warm up your hand and trying to get yourself warm. Yeah yeah and it's very effective at that so it is you are becoming warmer And the tea is becoming cooler. Yes but as i understand it. That's the whole point. That's why we have teeth. Yeah you same thing happens when you put it inside of you. It is warming you up but it is cooling the t. down. Yeah it's very well drawn. Hank thank you for that. That image. I was reading something recently. That said that the human body is essentially a tube. Yeah yeah and that all the all the organs and everything or just sort of like built around the essential tube structure of ourselves. And then i. I was thinking about it more and i was like. I'm just like an ambulatory worm. Yeah we're like bony worm deep down. I'm basically a large earthworm. That like believes itself to have free. Will i mean Yes there's more to it than that. I think the important thing also recognizes that When once you start to see it this way which is i. Think the more correct way to see it that what we think of as inside our bodies isn't always inside our bodies that the the digestive system actually is a tube of outside that runs through our inside yes. Oh food doesn't always go in. It doesn't go into us. It mostly goes through us. Some that goes into us like the nutrients get warbed like the. Yeah a lot of it. Just goes all the way through. Yeah it's kind of mind blowing really. The skin is one kind of outside. I'm gonna mess this up. Like i mess up western and eastern ukraine. I can't tell inside from outside. Either we gotta move onto the newsroom. Afc wimbledon okay. What's the nisreen. Ifc wimbledon mr worm flow. There's no news. From afc. Wimbledon hank because of cove abc wimbledon reported that some players got covid and as a result Games were cancelled their first round. Fa cup match against a barrel was postponed as was one other game. They are all like self isolating for fourteen days and then after everybody tests negative or the people who tested positive are negative whenever the regulations say they can come back to training they will come back to training but for now everything is on hold because of the pandemic and mean that isn't the biggest problem with the pandemic so i don't even feel like i can complain or government. Yeah but that's where we are. Well that's that is frustrating. Is there a. Is there a timeline. Yeah so the next scheduled game Is supposed to be on the twenty first and that will be after the two week quarantine period. It's just not clear right now. You know like if people may be got in the interim we just don't know so hopefully they will play this weekend but we'll see. Do you won. Miss a mars news. John yes desperately. Take me off this planet. Well let's talk about atmospheres and how important they are. Scientists are still learning more and trying to more about how water keeps on escaping the red planet. We want to know very badly. Where all that water went. 'cause we we know it used to be there but like how. How do you go from having like lakes and oceans and rivers to just not anymore. That seems like an oppressing question to ask. Because if it happened on earth that'd be really bad and And so there are two main mechanisms that we see for how water is getting lifted up high enough in the atmosphere that it can be broken by cosmic radiation into hydrogen and oxygen which can then be much more easily pushed off of the planet by solar winds and the first thing is seasons and water is particularly high in the atmosphere in the southern hemisphere during the summer so that accumulation is probably because of heating which kicks the dust up from the surface and the dust as gets kicked up. Drags the water with it and a couple that with a warmer atmosphere. That can hold more water and you get more water traveling to the upper atmosphere. Where newman escape. And then the second one is dust storms which seemed to be really important now in two thousand and eighteen. There was a huge dust storm. And you'll remember this because it was the thing that ended the opportunity rover's mission and that was bad so that dustin was bad for that reason but it was good because it allowed us to study how dust storms are impacting. The water in the atmosphere of mars usually water abundance. the atmosphere is like Three parts per million but in the two days before the twenty eight team storm that number doubled and at the peak of the summer which had the combined effect of the storm and the seasons. The total water was sixty parts per million twenty times. The normal amount. Wow so it seems like dust storms and the seasons when they coincide with each other are an even bigger System to bring water to the part of the atmosphere where it can be removed from the planet permanently and that has been happening for an awful long time billions of years and that is how we ended up with the mars with no water. So we think no no surface water. Right no surface water right now unless you include the potential of surface water. That's just very very briny and and short-lived so if we imagine like a very distant future where humans are on mars and are working to tariff form it That i guess would be trying to figure out how to reverse some of those processes or at least like with the amount of water lost through them. Well i mean so some probably not maybe in the long long term but the the amount of loss per year is really is quite low. Like if you're talking about the look and feel of mars we'd be contributing so much new water to the planet. That roy lost his space would be pretty insignificant. But the main thing that we'd want to do is to not have the solar wind interact with mars as significantly and that's important less for keeping water on the planet and more for having people on the planet because that so our wind like the radiation from the sun can be really damaging to life Including our life and there are a couple of ideas for how to do that like the main one is like individual shelters but the big one is that there would be some kind of thing in space that deflects the solar wind around mars. That thing would have to be very big and very powerful. Because we can't jump start the core again and have it have a magnetic field. The way with does but we be able to do something like that. That would deflect solar radiation away from the planet and without deflecting the light. All that just reminds me a of incredible earth. It's all good like what a planet such a great planet guy. We got so lucky. 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"Each. Listener supported. W. nyc studios. Welcome to dear Hankins John or is. John and hey. Gas where two brothers answer your questions. Advice and bring you all the week's news from both Mars and AFC Wimbledon. John Yes. What part of the human body is long and flexible and is about about two feet long and it contains the letters P E N S and I I'm just going to say what is the Spine The Spine Spine John the spine hey hey. So I found out something really interesting this week this is going to blow your mind. Okay. You know our Mike, we don't have favorite uncles. But if we did. Mike are are famously are famous. Uncle Mike are famously quiet reserved brilliant. Yeah. Impressive imposing intimidating uncle Mike Yeah I know and. I just found out that Uncle Mike listens to this podcast and he does listen to make a spine joke John Not my favorite spy joke of all time by have another one for you next week I can't wait. To High Mike if you're listening yeah. He was very sweet. He said some very nice things about the podcast and my book an email to me, which is a is a nice moment to get an email from uncle Mike. How many words were in the mid? Would you as the under fifty? Oh. Yes. Yeah. Yeah he is. He can say a lot with a few words indeed unlike uh us. No you would think that we might have gotten. A modicum of his ability to to speak with some precision. But no, we're about to ramble on for God knows how long beginning with answering this question from a veteran okay. I wanted to ask this question 'cause I actually know the answer I like I know the answer in such detail and it's as you know I almost never know anything. So this is really exciting for me. Brennan writes dear John and the other day my sister and I were trying to recorded dumb video and my phone ran out of storage mid video and I went to my settings to try and free up some room and it said that over half of my storage is being taken up by this category called other. Pictures or videos or APPS or messages or my system than what is it? Is it my FBI I. Agent. Hank. What is it? We got it first off. We've got at least twelve questions this week that referenced my FBI agent which I assume now is like a memo. They're saying everyone imagines that they have their own FBI agent. So I'm glad that we've reached that point in the Dystopia in story. Anyway Bryn you know what that other is I'm almost positive. I knew exactly what that other is denoted his hang no actually I don't and I'm super curious. It's Netflix's downloads. If you download something off of Netflix, it's just goes on to say you could watch it off line counts. As other and I had this problem with my phone and my I cloud where I was like I don't understand I I have like four terabytes and it was all it wasn't even good. Netflix shows it was like Barbie Dream House let I downloaded for Alice, not for myself although they do have some jokes for grown ups which I appreciate shot out to the Barbie Dream, house writers, they're looking out for me. Is Netflix's downwards brand. You just got to get rid of those Netflix down. John. Thinks. It's Netflix's downloads that let's hope I actually this this week my. Specimens computer and it popped up with a little year out of disk space and so I go into my like footage dump folder and I take all the log files out and I'm like that will fix it and then the next day it came back and it was like your your computer is still again and then if you want to write and tell me what happened here. So I opened it up and I searched my entire harder for big files and. There was a file it was at Mova file hundred, twenty three gigabytes and it was just kept getting bigger every time I gave it space. It would make itself bigger and I don't coy in a fish pond. Yes. Yes. It's doing something I. Don't know what it was doing I. Don't know what program was creating it, but it was continually creating it. So I did a full rebooted the system and deleted the hundred and twenty three gigabyte file and now good good. I mean that seems like it was almost definitely your F-. I'm worried you should be. I mean I think that Jon I think that my FBI agent is hopefully entertained by the all all of the things that I do at least I hope I hope the FBI agent is really into microbes because he's getting a lot. Yeah I think my FBI agent is probably like Oh my God this guy will watch anything on Youtube at one o'clock in the morning. Nothing is below his standards. Now I've noticed. US You see my watch history after eleven PM. I'm just I'm completely unreliable like I watch somebody build a swimming pool with a stick in the jungle. Yes added those are amazing. So good you want you lot of I'm surprised by the number of boat videos you watch I just like to look at the Ocean Hank Okay and I can't do it from Indianapolis. So. This is my way. Let's move onto another question. Okay. This next person comes from Elisa who asks dear John I'm a first year student at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Aka the cluster university. This is a reference to aditorial that was published in the student paper that did not bleep out that word I'm being kicked out of my dorm today and as I was packing the overwhelming feeling of loss came again I say again because not too long ago. I was a high school senior ready to go. To Prom and to graduate when suddenly everything was ripped away I arrived on campus thinking finally i. can see people again only to be proven wrong just two weeks later it's hard not to feel like my class is a little cursed at times and I was wondering if y'all could offer us some. Hope I'm starting to feel like nothing ever be the way I planned and maybe that was a pipe dream from the START I just can't help but feel lied to and robbed of the quote best years of my life. To Stop you there is. I'm going to stop you right there. I understand being upset. Yeah. This does suck. My don't want to minimize it. I I do not know where the insidious lie came from that. The ages of seventeen to twenty one are the best years of your life but it might be the worst live at we collectively believe in, which is really saying something. Of course, it's not the best years of your life. It's a time of constant uncertainty and change and yes, there are wonderful things but they're also terrible things it. It's very big years of your life and you're having an extremely big version of them and I'm sorry that it's big in so many terrible ways. But this morning I was talking to my kids and they were talking about whether summer is better than winter and my daughter observed this deep truth that I had never crystallized for myself before in the way that she crystallized it, which is that Wayne it is winter you feel like it will never be warm again and when it is summer, you feel like it will never. Be Cold again how and because it is now you cannot imagine what the future will be like, but it will not be like now. Yeah. It will not always be like this So there there is that I think one reason why this is this hurts is because it feels like there is a there's a clear path that you've been working toward and now that class path is much less clear. Yeah. and maybe it will clear up in the future and and it will basically just sort of restart you know. Maybe you'll get three years of college instead of four which admittedly is certainly not ideal but there is also the fact that like there are many times when paths will look clear and and they will be set in front of you, and then suddenly they will not be available and the thing to do in that situation is, of course, like you know if you can, of course, there is there is grieving and frustration that comes along with that but there is still a path there that you're still on us have. To figure out with that one is yet yeah. But you do still need to grieve and it does still suck and there are going to be a lot of times in life when you think you're on a path and it doesn't happen or at least it doesn't happen the way you imagined it and right now, one of the strange things about this historical moment is that most people were having some version of that experience. Obviously, some people are having extreme versions of it. Some people are having minor versions of it but. A lot of US had imagined the summer of twenty twenty or the fall of twenty twenty a little differently than how it's gone and there's that losses real But I think we also have to be good at identifying a paths when when they are not necessarily clearly set out in front of us and that's part of becoming better at being human you know even after talking about this with you a bunch I just keep coming back to Alice said when it's summer, you think it's never going to be cold and when it's winter, you think it's never going to be hot and you're wrong. These it's going to be warm again, and maybe we soaked days coming and you know John Another thing is that Kristen also? who also has just been sent home from UNC? So maybe we can you to what? We got a bunch of emails actually from people who've sent home from UNC. It was very sad to read all the emails this week and see so many. Kristen rites. Dear, John and Hank just moved into my dorm twelve days ago, and now they're sending gets home. Thanks for the twenty three, thousand dollars two week vacation I feel like there's a little bit of anger as well as as well as yeah you think. But the real problem is that one of my suite mates brought her fish. This is terrible. Oh my God brought her to the dorm and can't bring it back because she has to fly back and you can't bring it on the flight. One of my other suite mates is taking custody of the fish for the semester, but the fish shares the name with her sister's ex boyfriend. What is the policy on renaming someone else is a fish well, he's the situation I. Think a fish named can it can be pretty malleable? Yes. So while it is eighteen your. other suite mates home that fishes named Manhole, and then when it returns, it's named Derek again, the fine that you can call your hits fish whatever you need to to get through this experience I would argue the bigger concern is that in terms of keeping official live four months is a long time and so your main job here is is to return with a fish regardless of the that fishes name speaking of which Jon Fish names and five seconds go Good. One I agree and Whiz oh That agree. was. One was. was. When was? That was four. It was four in. My fifth, all of them were just sort of like noises of frustrated thoughts and Lizzo. Okay right whichever one of those you want. You're welcome John. You got to put yourself. You lean out over the edge got to see what happens. It's going to be like. Plate knock. Turn animal plant. Danger there see those were good. Minor Better John Question comes from Anna Beth who has steer Hang John are mushrooms of vegetable. There are fungi they're not even plans. How could that be vegetable nodded chase? Anna Beth what. Shays with the opposite of chase. Anna Beth chase antibodies chases is from the Percy Jackson Books John. Oh, I was I was thinking very I was going for upon yeah. Yeah. Okay. So. First of all, obviously, the category of vegetable was made up this idea that they are all captured yet. All categories are made a short. This is like the underlying problem is anytime you come up against these weirdnesses and taxonomy thing that you have to remember is that like the category it's not like vegetables came to be based on a category Ray had a gory came to be based on our observation of vegetables, and then as our observation of vegetables got better, we are like Oh turns. Out this category is like, yeah, a little over simplist is not good but I will say that tax comically there are all kinds of things like they're scientifically tax. There are fruits and fruits are certain kind of thing and vegetables are a kind of other kind of thing. But vegetables is the is the one that really doesn't really mean anything and so but I brought this question up because. I. Looked it up and the the USDA has thoughts on this, which I'm a big fan of carrying a. so the USDA categorizes mushrooms under other vegetables and here are the categories of vegetables John you've got this is a court like for now this is what we have arrived at dark green vegetables red and orange vegetables, jer beans, and peas, Yup starchy vegetables which you shouldn't count because they're basically just bread that grows right and then you've got other vegetables and other vegetables includes it includes funguses and summer squash avocado iceberg lettuce. Avocado is a weird one. It's really hard. Avocado is probably the most interesting food. The that humans eat mum iceberg lettuce though I think they put iceberg lettuce in other in the first attempt in a multi decade process to hopefully remove iceberg lettuce from human diets. No John No I love salad dressing and iceberg lettuce is the purest way to get it into my mouth with A. Poor. Summer. Squash though. What about all the other squashes? Why do they get to live happily in either dark green vegetables or radio? The winter squashes go like winter squash is to me are are they starchy vegetables? I also. Amazed. By this fact, they have mushroom summer squash iceberg, lettuce, Avocado, etc. How do you put it Cetera at the end of that list of things that have nothing to do with the? And other things like mushrooms and iceberg lettuce and Avocado. Avocado are the most opposite foods. Right nobody's ever like hot I really feel like some iceberg. Lettuce. Actually, with a little honey mustard I gotta do I bet you would like it with some. Yeah. All right. So. So there's your answer fungi, Avocados, Iceberg Lettuce Etcetera Etcetera. All, right. Let's move onto this question from Christine who writes dear John and Hank I've been wearing a face mask because reasons but I miss smiling at people what gesture can I make to people? I don't know to let them know. I see them and what they do. What what is happening out there I was laughing this question. Okay. Is such a weird that I got. Like a door creaking open. What gesture can I make the people that don't know to let them know I see them with when I'm wearing a mask I don't want to just say, hi, all the time. Yeah DFT. WAM Christine. Easy enough. Obviously you just have to be wearing a cabana hats and you just do little. Pick it up a little. Little tip of the hat. Yeah. Nothing like a tip of the hat by hello there. Do you think I I'm forty? Can I wear a Cabana hat yet? No no you're like at least twenty years and morty to Jimmy Buffett concerts away from being able to wear a Cabana hat. That's the rules I do WanNa wear Cabana hat but I don't want to go to any Jimmy Buffett concerts ever. To your plate but the those are the rules I don't make them anyway, Christine. The answer to this is extremely simple, which is that you can actually tell that people are smiling via there is yeah. There you know. GotTa let hair you got to. Do the work. Yeah just. But I saw a great ticked Huckabee this when somebody was like when Corona virus is over and I'm smiling at people. Just. Smiling with your is in this because I do find myself. Like when I'm wearing a mask and I'm trying to be expressive with my face like I, it's all in my eyes. Yeah. So I'm like, here's me with very wide is here's being with happy smiling is and I do feel like at some point I'm going to take off the face mask and people are going to be like, why don't you smile with your mouth? Yeah. I also sometimes we'll recognize someone and then they will be like, okay you're. Going to tell me who you are and then I'll tell them and they'll be like I'm so sorry and I'll be like, no I've covered my face this I'm wearing a hat and a mask the PGA three square inches with to figure out who I am yeah there. Yeah I personally I mean obviously who want this to end on every possible level except for the level where I can't recognize anyone can recognize me I kind of like that level. Just gotTa move through the world without ever whereas I'm the opposite and would like I feel like I should start wearing a cabana hat. So people will be like that's Hank Oh he's the he's the guy who wears the Cabana Hat I mean you just had a moment of real. Deep Self Realization But I don't know if it penetrated as deeply as I, need it to. I'm GONNA Hey, we're gonNA stop going to the podcast for a SEC. We're GONNA. Let you sit with that feeling if you could go call your therapist real quick. Burn about how you're thinking about your Cabana hat, and then I needed to spend fifteen minutes alone with you. By the way Hank That's a feeling that you share with everyone who has a Cabana. Whereas Cabana hat out on a regular is. Probably true. Now this one's not that expensive thou. Okay. Let's move on before hank starts online shopping. This question comes from Maya who writes dear John and then going on bike rides around my neighborhood in the evenings and sometimes I see that a few of my neighbors have their wand sprinklers going and get pretty sweaty from biking in the weather is very warm at the moment. Would it be acceptable to get down off my bike and run through their? How can I pass this off? If I get caught PS, I am an adult. Yeah sometimes are an will run through people sprinklers, and then it'd be like come with me and I'll be like I don't think I can. You can and I can't, and he's like why not and I'm like, yeah I don't know but like don't make the rules buddy but that's what would it feels like to me and I will sometimes I like lean my arm out over the sprinklers and like get some just like get a little sprinkle. Yeah and then maybe like splashing on my face, but I feel like. If, if someone was doing in my yard, I think I'd be okay with it. I wouldn't at all and here's my take on it. If the sprinkler because of the way that the person said it, uh. Extends. Out of the yard into a street or across a sidewalk or across the sidewalk, you are allowed to stop on the sidewalk and guess had wet the Sprinkler Branko you to quote Hank several times because. That is the person who put the sprinkler in basically saying like I'm allowing for this possibility but I don't think you're allowed to like run through someone's lawn wall the sprinkler is on. Now there is another question here, which is, why are we using perfectly potable water? sprinkle on grass that cannot be eaten which is a question for separate podcast called the interviewed episode. Three K. God we got that one settled. No problem. Geno Hayes. That reminds me. Okay. Remind you the same thing that reminded me of because we're going to find out. You Go. It reminds me that I have a major announcement that I forgot to me. Okay. Yeah, it's different. But I know what it is I I have a new book coming out. It's coming out next May I think and it's a collection of essays. It's my first book of nonfiction. It is called the anthropology and reviewed, and it's a mix of episodes of the podcast that have been expanded and revised to turn into a book and also new reviews. It's my attempt I guess to chart what what it felt like for one person to live in the anthropology seen. At one moment in history. So yeah, it's available for preorder now and also I will be signing every copy of the first printing in the United States if you are ordering it in the United States. I won't surprise anybody WHO's familiar with my fast books or with the episode of the NFC interviewed where I talk about the artwork of the Japanese artists here, Utah I like to make repetitive marks on paper. So I'm excited he will sign. I'm really excited for the book and also quite nervous about it. But yeah, I am I am really excited and and I hope that you like congratulations John I'm excited. Thank you? Thanks. John is done in a it's been a few years since I published a book. So it'll. It'll be I ha I. Hope it's. On. This hope people like it Oh God. Go this comes from Caroline who asks Hello Mr and Mr Green. It's not what the name of the podcast is though that would be fun that would be a great podcast name though then we would have to lose we have to have to end our bet it seems like time is slowing down John and maybe we will get to Mars by twenty twenty eight. Do you want to double down? No. I just moved into my dorm and my roommate is pretty great. We get along and I enjoy living with her but there's one thing I haven't been able to talk to her about on her whiteboard. She has written dft Ba, I want to ask her about it. But starting conversations is not a skill that I'm great at I've been waiting for her to notice my dft b. a pin that I have on my backpack, but it's been three days and she has a. What do I say to bring up the subject I don't know if she listened to the podcast but if she does hi, Lucy Caroline and To be advice would be greatly appreciated I'm an path and Caroline Caroline. This is very sweet, but I think it's totally possible caroline that she did notice and she just also hasn't said anything because she's also nervous. Yeah it seems likely I. Think it was a great move to right into the podcast. That's a very passive choice, Mike move I really like it. Yeah. But I do think at some point you've got to say like Hey I know what that initial is a means. Yeah. What what's the opposite of aggressive? Passive aggressive. But then there's like whatever this this is a passive aggressive. It's fairly passive right like it. We've all had occasions like this where you see somebody reading your favorite book and you're like now I'm not gonNA say anything because like I right well, this is like I've seen movies where people say things and the people who say things aren't people I want to be like we. Yeah. It's passive friendly. We're we're we're trying to create friend nervous but passively and active friendly as great. Passive friendly is great. But I, I, think that you don't need to bring up the DFT BA US bring up the. Bring up something around dft be like you like are you excited for Pizza? Miss this year or have you know? That's no. It's terrible I John Creepy. Creepy to come. If you're just I, guess I guess is a little crazy. Because I if somebody could no D. TV and not know that is possible at least could certainly TV and not know Pizza Mus right like the longer it goes the weirder it gets as is the case with so many things right true and so so you just gotTa buckle down and say do you follow Tiktok Star Hank Green I think you mean you follow Tiktok Star John Green or. Tiktok over user Hank Green. Obsessed with the total number who has more followers, which I think is a very twenty seventeen way of judging success on social media I, subscribe to the. Theory of social media stardom, which is that really the amount of your social media impact should be your number of total posts divided by your number of total followers at very good. You're you're one of the tops on Tiktok that and if you have that means that if you have one follower and zero posts, you are the most successful social media star. Yeah. Anytime you dividing by zero that's the win. Or Unit of work. Yeah. I mean if you really if you, WANNA. If you WANNA win social media. Use. What are we talking about? Trying to try to so it was doing a Rubik's cube. I was GONNA. TIKTOK. Sorry. I got lost. Figure out. How to get Carolina. In on the on the friendship path re their common. In at least the initial is the FDA. Yeah. So I think you say like I. Noticed you had Dat be written on the whiteboard and I. I have a DVD keychain. Did you know that John Green has a new book coming out? Called the other interview is available for preorder wherever books are sold that would be that'd be my way in Carolina but obviously, everybody has a different opening line. Yeah and you gotTa do this soon because you probably not in that door much longer. I hope I. Hope Not I. Hope everything goes I hope everything goes fine and it's your in that dorm for a long time. But regardless guy on, you're probably GONNA WANNA. Shoot your shot because it may be that the people in your dorm or the only ones you're going to get to hang out with potentially Ju just you and your roommate. God's which reminds me John that this podcast is brought to you by Kovic Nineteen covid nineteen as a sponsor message here it says don't wear mask. It. So I guess we really will take money from anybody. John. Also, of course, brought to you by shutting down the economy shutting down the economy don't wear a mask as guesses also brought to you by Cabana. Hats God masks. No. Do nothing for you, and also this podcast is brought to you by the anthropology and reviewed book the Anthropology and reviewed book John Forgot to plug it until halfway through the podcast. But now I've flagged five times. This is the product for US message from Alexandra to Alison, Goose, Sarah, Guy, and wicky. Sorry Fam-. We totally put this off at the last second and now I can't think of what to say y'all are really cool and we're glad to. Have the coup bombs maybe one day we'll all be in the same place maybe maybe Alex and Geo maybe fingers crossed I. Do hope that one day I can be in the same place as my friends and brother and yeah Yup I miss that I don't miss traveling such but I do miss seeing people I love. Yeah I miss being in the places John. There's last question before the news from Mars comes from Laura who asks steer Hanke John Recently. Been in a bookstore twice and had issues finding my book due to looking in the wrong genre section the first time I looked in the fantasy section defined it was an a section labelled dark fantasy. Oh, that was the thing. But now, I do the next visit I was looking for a book for a sci Fi themed book of the month. Instead of the size section it was in the mysteries and thrillers section normally, I have no issues with asking. Help from bookstore staff but a current time in all that stuff I'd like to avoid it. So how do I know which genre I should be perusing for books? All help is appreciated Laura I just went to Barnes and noble to to two stealth sign some copies of my book and they went through the entire science fiction section it wasn't there and so I've discovered it was in the science fiction and fantasy section which was separate from the Science Fiction Wow. Yeah. The ideal solution to this is to ask a bookseller and they'll almost always be extremely helpful in an know where the book is but I understand why that might be complicated in this current time I have had this experience, a number of times I think some of it speaks to the way genre is changing and bookstores tried to shelve stuff with other things that you might also like if you like this, right like they they try to do really likes of a kind but that doesn't really work if you can't find the book you're looking for right. Well, here's the situation. We can't even figure out what mushrooms are. We think we think iceberg lettuce and Avocado belong in the same category is just hard. It's hard. It's hard to categorize thing is our economy is hard. Yeah, and it's really hard when it comes to books because there are a lot of books that are romance novels and literary fiction and science fiction, and there are some books that are yeah romance and mystery and Witter Richer and SF and fantasy and why like in it's endless that's one of the things, I always. Really. Liked about publishing young adult fiction is that all lived on the shelf together, right. So Holly Black and lorry halts, Anderson, and Jacqueline, Woodson, and Walter Dean Myers could all live together right and I always thought that was really really cool. Yeah. But obviously, you see it's hard to do that at scale and just be like here all the books you do need some kind of taxonomy and I get. Yeah. You do and I think that that these things are always in flux. Dark fantasy kind of didn't exist in than it did and it may not exist in the future and my barnes and noble in particular if you're listening and you work there what's up it looks great in there. By the way you're doing fantastic work and it looks like it is in a state of flux where maybe science fiction and fantasy is continuing to be broken out from itself but there are books. Yeah. Definitely. I wouldn't know which section to put it in if if those weren't blended categories, that's a great point to that. A lot of bookstores are are in flux right now, and they're obviously responding to you know in in many of their cases the biggest. Challenge history. And figuring out how to do that well is. Is Not easy and I feel like we should say hank that this is a great time to support bookstores. It's always a good time to support bookstores but this is a really great time to do it. If you can. If you live in the United States, you can support your local independent store by shopping for books bookshop dot Org, but bookstores are just So, important to publishing and they support a lot of jobs and ya so support them. If you can are Johnny having a news from AFC Wimbledon for US Hank the stadium is really it's really coming together I it it's not going to be ready by the first game of the season of course that doesn't matter very much because there won't be fans right at. The beginning of the season or at least it looks like they're probably won't be fans the beginning of the season. The first game is currently scheduled like the first game of the third tier season is currently scheduled for September twelfth and I know that because the fixtures list has come out, that's right. We have a schedule, Hank, a schedule we know who were. Playing the fixtures list is that what they call it? Yeah. So we know who were playing and in what order or I guess I should say in the past we would have known who we were playing and in what order in the past when we believed in the future in the current president, we know who we hope we are playing and in what order. Because who knows what's going to happen with the League one season this year but assuming that things go according to plan the season will begin on September twelfth, which is several weeks later than usual in an attempt to get the the the numbers of new cases in the UK even lower than where they are now. So it'll start on September twelfth and run through basically mid May the highlights of the season for me are obviously the Games. Against Milton Keynes, those are important games. It does look like the game against Milton Keynes, the home game, the home version of that game the game that we will be playing at Plough Lane a place that they tried to take from us and that Wimbledon fans have rebuilt will be on January thirtieth of twenty twenty one I've got that date circled in my calendar as the first time I get on a plane question mark question mark. Question Mark. Wow. That that that's probably a widow embiid issues but. It would be great to see see Wimbledon playing at Plough Lane especially that particular game because I think it will be a sell-out. Also Swindon town hank who you may remember for years and years ago of playing with me Swindon town have been promoted up from league to to the third tier of English football and they will be playing Wimbledon on September tenth. Wow. So That's another exciting fixture for me but on the whole schedule looks. I. Don't know I. Mean a lot of Wimbledon fans talking about is it better to play the good teams at the beginning of the season or do we want to save the good teams for the end of the season when we're playing plough lane we've got more crowd noise and more energy but who knows if there will be a crowd? Nobody knows. Yeah. So we know who we're supposed to be playing, which is a step in the right direction. We still don't know when any of it's going to happen I. Hear that well John This weekend Mars News We just got a little update on perseverance which has done a bit of course correction on his journey to the Red Planet is is that normal is yet as he considered one of the normal there are five of these. So this is the first of five fifteen days after liftoff. Eight of the spacecraft's thrusters were fired and thing that is called a trajectory correction maneuver, which is exactly what it sounds like and that is going to launch it out of our orbit in into Mars orbit and the next one is going to happen at the end of September. There's also a backup plan for February in case any last minute corrections are needed as the rover gets ready to land in the Jezreel Crater, which is a wonderful weird cool geologic place to be on. Mars and so it's very exciting that perseverance will all going to plan B.. They're quite soon you can see the full map of how All of this works at perseverance is twitter account, which is at NASA persevere and according to the account as of August fifteenth. The spacecraft has gone about twenty seven million miles already with about with about two hundred, sixty, five, million miles to go. That is mind blowing yeah it's it's you know it's it's a distance It's it's a it's a distance. It's not as far as we've ever gone or anything, but it certainly farther than any person has ever gone. Yeah. I mean, I've done a lot of air travel in pretty not to Brag I some pretty fancy medallion status but I'm not anywhere close to twenty eight million miles. You get a really you get really special if you make it to twenty, eight, million miles they really I mean that should Delta should get a sponsorship with NASA, pay pay pay up and then and they'll say anytime, curiosity of perseverance wants to go on a flight anywhere in the world free. Absolutely. Got Got Delta I can't wait for the day Gwyn Delta finally sponsor. Yeah, all wear like I'll wear like a Delta Polo when. Figures for the rest of my life. Can I tell? Can I tell you in the tens of thousands of people listening a secret? Yeah. But it's a secret. So don't tell anybody. Okay. Yeah. It is was recently reached out to buy a competing dietary fiber supplement brand to metamucil serious I wanted isn't metamucil s what can I guess who it was? No, you are not to guess job, Ohka what did you what? Did you say, I said, send me some of your product and I will see what I think of it. Wow I. mean I have to say, Hey, if you get sponsored by a supplementary five brand that isn't metamucil my faith in your seriousness as an add pitch man is the toilet I all have no faith whatsoever at that point, you might as well be the like guy who's on infomercials shouted about cleaning surface. Maybe. It's way better. 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245: We Are Held Together by Sunlight

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245: We Are Held Together by Sunlight

"And welcome the dear John, or is up for a dear John and Hank. It's a podcast or two brothers. Answer your questions, dubious advice and bring weeks news from both Mars and AFC Wimbledon John Young Johnny was just father's Day and aren looked up at me on father's Day and he said. Well it Sunday every week. I. Don't get it, 'cause. It's his day Sunday. He's my son Oh. Oh, yeah, it's pretty bad. Hey, can we talk about the fact that your book that comes out in July a beautifully foolish endeavor? just got its first review, and it's a Rave Review From Library Journal for those. You don't know a ton about the world of book publishing. When these pre publication journals like the one I used to work for which is called Book List or Vibrate Journal or Publishers Weekly when they review your book, they either give it a regular review or they give. Give it something called a starred review with a little star as a little star next next to the review, and that's very good very good to start with you. It's hard to do surprisingly important you if you don't know about it, everybody starts talking about it like an amazing thing happened and you're like I don't know. It's like you're talking to different language, but now that's my second book. I. Do know right and also a lot of times. People like my book got a starred review and you want to be like just one star. That sounds horrible. On John's podcast, the interviewed caller against one star. But, no, it's a maximum number of stars. You can get it. It's the most stars you can get, and Hank just received a starred view, or I should say hanks. Book just received a star. From Library Journal and I mean it's very well deserved, and it's just a great review here. I'll give you the verdict. Hank route, this adventurous, witty and compelling novel Green Delivers Sharp Social Commentary on the power of social media, and both the benefits and horrendous consequences that follow when we give too much of ourselves technology, which which really does get to the heart of the book, and what's so brilliant about it and I'm just thrilled for you that this reviewer got what you were doing, thanks! I have spent so much time worrying about how you know. Obviously, this isn't the end of that, but. Worrying about how the is going to be received and getting the having the first review that I saw be positive. It feels very good. I literally jumped up and down and said. So I let myself have that moment of just being really excited and it was great. and now WANNA. Make a podcast with you well I'm excited. Mika podcasts do, but I should say that hangs book beautifully Foolish Endeavor comes out July seventh, and you can preorder assigned copy if you live in the United States right now, except not on Amazon because they already sold out on Amazon good free order it from somewhere else. This first question comes from Stella who asks deer hanging. John What happens when a virus dies. Do they disintegrate into nothingness, or do they disobey their dead for a long time is earth a burial ground full of the corpses of virus bacteria and dead things we cannot see is their journey to the microcosms video. Talk about all these corpses I. Don't WanNa to live in a cemetery Stella Stella to. Live Cemetery Stella, not only. Do you live in a cemetery stella? Live like among inside within and without of a cemetery. You are a cemetery. You really are like there's a cemetery inside of you and there's also cemetery on your skin also. Cemetery also just made of things that we're once in other organisms. We know that because we eat very yeah, I think sometimes people don't fully grasp the extent to which we are like a collection of atoms that have chosen to work together for a while. Yeah, yeah, and all this sort of the the energy that keeps it from falling apart originally came from the Sun. Which I love, yeah, very nearly all unless you're eating something. Something from the deep sea vent or some kind of chemo. Synthetic bacteria from Yellowstone National Park we are, we are held together by sunlight, which is the better which is a better thought than I am a cemetery, but both are true. Yeah, it's hard to talk about the extent to which we are made out of sunlight, because it becomes cheesy so quickly. Right like the moment you say like we are sunlight. Everybody's like. Oh, that's A. Big Cringe for me, okay, but it's true I actually made it. Episode of the procedure viewed about sunsets because I didn't know how to live with the fact that sunsets are both very beautiful and extremely trite If you pay a sunset. Yeah, everybody's like. Oh, I've seen a painting of a sunset before, but the truth is they are wildly beautiful, and you have to overcome your cynicism, and and you know this irony that you use as armor in order to protect yourself from the world you have to overcome that to acknowledge and welcome in how fricken beautiful it is that we are all made of sunlight. Yeah, I feel as if my life is is about constructing the right sort of armor, the right sort of strength that allows. Allows The the light through you know and Yeah I wanNA. Be Able to look at a flower and be like Whoa what look at that? That's wow or just a bug or my son or bus on or any of that stuff like right, but but yeah I mean. We also need protection. I have such a complicated relationship with sincerity. like I can't help but be earnest, and it's something that I actually like about myself and want to cultivate. Yeah, but I also know very well. HOW ANNOYING OVER EARNESTNESS IS! I am aware Oh yeah that like to to to try to live in this world earnestly is to like be on an absolute night's edge, because on the other side of that lies empty platitudes and. Encouragement and you know everything happens for a reason ray, who haw yeah, anyway when viruses die, they don't disintegrate nothingness. Viruses are made up of a bunch of different molecules. In fact, you can detect a virus even after it has died so when. Scientists are testing to see if a surface has been. has like uninfected. Corona virus on it. They can't just swab it like they swab your nose and then run a DNA test to see if DNA is there because the DNA could be there even if the virus is dead like the DNA remains, even if a virus has died, so what they have to do is actually use it to try in in fact, something to see if there is a reaction or an infection that happens so so yes, the DNA the RNA. The genetic material remains even after the virus is no longer capable of infecting something. And it breaks down over time, but like those molecules just sort of sit there. In a thin film over everything. Yeah very thin film now. I, guess, that's some encouragement. I I can dig a measure of comfort in thinness of the film. Might be, it might be more specs than film. Okay, that's even better depending on how how often you clean! The point is you can see through it. See The beauty of a sunset absolutely all right. We got a lot of questions this week. Along the lines of this one from ee lie, who wrote Hi Eli a nineteen year old transgender man I've been out for about three years now and have been on hormones for about one point five years I love. Harry Potter as many of your listeners probably do, but recently with jk rollings, tweets and articles about trans. Trans people I don't know how to feel I feel really frustrated because I've had to work for the validation of my gender every day of my life, and to hear stuff like this hurts but I also just feel really sad I know I shouldn't care what others think, but it stings to have the creator of such an amazing universe, openly mock and criticize your existence. How y'all feel about it? How did you react to her? Saying things like this and how do I? Continue to enjoy her work or Kenai? Any advice would be appreciated. E Eli, I mean I. I will. I would not say that you shouldn't care how other people think like we have to. That's we're human, and we listen, and you know we put a lot of stock in the creators of the things that we love, and we want to listen to them, and we want to appreciate them and finding out that they. Have invalidated you that they have a damaging perspective. They believe things that are. Frankly from my perspective, difficult to understand how one could believe. Of course it is sad and and you should care well. It's not only that though Hank it's also that these people who have a lot of power and have a lot of money and have a voice that gets amplified on onto national news services. Yeah, when they say things that are hurtful they are. Are Her arm for it. It hurts in every way and so I, think it's really important to say at the beginning allied to you and to anybody who's listening trans rights are human rights, and that shouldn't be a political statement that is the consensus of medical and scientific professionals that that is where we are so I I don't know how to. To tell you how to feel about Harry Potter. Now I don't feel like it's my place to tell you how to feel about Harry. Potter yeah, I, do have a book recommendation which is Jackson, birds sorted. It's it's a wonderful book written by a really important member of the Harry Potter Fan Community who helped lead the HP Fan community into activism into the. The idea of decreasing world suck and part of what's been so heartbreaking about this on a personal level for Hank in me, is that the Harry Potter Fan Community really gave nerve area a lot of its initial energy and modeled for us. What communities online could accomplish what they could what they could do when people work together, they helped found project for awesome and. Yeah, it's just it. It was really it's really sad. It's really disheartening. It's discouraging and I'm sorry. I think that reading Jackson's memoir great. Jackson's also a friend of ours has been for a long time now and really proud of him and and I think that he has probably the perspective. You might be looking for right now. Yes, I agree so yeah, so I hope you like sorted as as much as as I, did and and feel like it can maybe be part of helping. Helping Charter Path forward all right and we have another question from Catherine. Who writes dear John and Hank I'm twenty five, and I've been temporarily promoted to head of the entire digital marketing department at by mid sized company. Will my bosses on maternity leave? It's been an awesome but overwhelming experience. One of the biggest issues has been that I am plucky young lady whose job now largely consists of meetings with the office, weathered thirty five to fifty year old men I feel really seen right now. Office weather. Man That description office weathered? Katherine tells me that you deserve every bit of your job. As the head of digital marketing at midsized companies need if anything. Maybe it'd be the head of digital marketing for all of Human Experience Office weathered. What What? A phrase that I can see it I could see. The the warn patches on the flannel shirts Oh, that's good. That's good. All these guys seem to value my input, an generally quite confident in my work, but every time I walk into a meeting with them. Oh remember walking into meetings. Every time I zoom into a meeting with them, my instantly feel like the world's smallest child whose faith that I know what I'm talking about brothers. How do I not feel like a kid in a room full of grumpy dad's so Catherine? The first thing I'd say that it's it's partly. The job of those office weathered people to help. You feel comfortable and to make space for your voice because they need it, they benefit from. From it the company as a whole benefits from having you as their head of digital marketing, like they need somebody who understands that world, and can navigate it effectively, and you are that person like you have a kind of expertise. They don't have yeah, I mean you are. You're in those rooms to to help solve the problems that they have to help to do the business that they do and so and and it's important. Important to remember this when you're new, but also in the future when you won't be new anymore like how do we feel and it's normal to feel you know lake new in a new space, but look at the ways that people helped. You feel empowered in your work so that you can do that for other people in the future when they're the new person when they don't look like everyone else in the office and and that. That is how we do a better job of all of the work that we're doing because we can't just do it. From one perspective is what we We continue to learn and they yeah they really. They need you right now. And that's the thing to keep in mind. I would argue. I would argue that. We can't just do it from one. Perspective is the thing that we continue to not learn, but yeah, you're right. Yeah the thing that we should word yes, and they they need. You think like that's the thing that I tried to remember. When I'm in rooms. where where I feel like this sort of smallest potato is I. Don't know I am a potato in this scene, but I am and ought to remember that like I've been asked in that room for for reason and to try and like do that thing that I'm there to do. Yeah, so I hope it becomes more comfortable for you over time Catherine and that soon you're the head of all of marketing at a mid sized company and eventually one day I look forward to working for you then you're the head of marketing at WNYC. Yes please invite us to speak at your corporate events back. When that's the thing again Oh God I. Love a corporate event Gig I just. I really do. I really do I think my favorite part of it is the check. Yeah. They're dislike glum. You take care of you for a day and pay you for it and I've been doing several. I've done several now that are that are I do in exchange for donations to partners in health, which I love, because the like the the reaction that they have and I'm like I money, but I need you to give it away. Yeah. Either way if you hire people for Corporate Speaking Gigs, and your corporation is willing to make a donation to partners in health. Send US an email. Let us know where Hankins. Jonah General Dot Com. And we've got twenty five million dollars to raise so and we ain't cheap. Speak for yourself like I'm quite reasonably priced. John, this next question comes from Michaela. Who Asks Dear Hankins John. Because the world is hard right now. I've been watching brother two point Oh. Wow, okay, real quick for people who don't know before hank and I were tiktok phenomena. By the way hank, this is a tangent to tangent I've been walking in every evening to read Alice her bedtime stories, and I open her door, and I say good evening Alice. It's your father tick Tock Sensation John. It is really frustrating now. This is a tangent of the tangent tangent, but like that you have uploaded one tick tock, and you have more followers than me and I've had like four viral tick talks and his viral as mitek. nope, not one as viral is your one for everyone who watches your tiktok follows you because they're like. Oh, well, he never posts, so it's not GonNa am not going to be a problem for your feet exaggerated one Tiktok so that I could walk into my. Kid's room and announced myself as viral tiktok sensation. John Green Anyway before we tiktok hers. Is that correct doctrines? And before we were podcasters, we have made youtube videos for a long time and back in two thousand seven. We made youtube videos back and forth to each other every weekday for the entire year, and that was called Brotherhood, two point Oh. To the question. I have noticed you guys talk about Al. Gore Leka, lot. Why I consider myself to be politically engaged. I have had a poster of Barack Obama in my bedroom wall since two thousand nine, when I was ten was Al Gore a lot more important in two thousand seven than he is now. Yes, if so, why really was he was way more important after remember he was only seven years removed from having lost the presidential election by something like thirty four votes in Florida Yeah thirty four contested votes we should. and also he'd start in this documentary called an inconvenient truth about climate change and getting people to understand the size of the of the climate emergency and so he really was very very important. Yeah, I don't I. Don't remember talking about him a lot in two thousand seven. I will I think he was also getting ready to run for president like. Because, he yeah I. Think well. No, no, he no. He didn't run. He didn't run John John. You're thinking of John At. We're right. I am thinking of. John Edward Sierra L. my so Al. Gore was important in two thousand, seven. I'm not sure why we talked about him a lot, but I also don't remember like anything from two thousand and seven I tell you. It's it's weird to me. Of course, all of those videos are still on the Internet, and I want them to be on the Internet because I. Want there to be like a record. I think it's quite lovely that there's this record of what we were thinking at various points in time or what we were interested in that now spans over thirteen years, but I also like almost want there to be a disclaimer at the beginning of every brotherhood. Two point. Oh video where like this was made in two thousand, seven and John feels differently about almost everything now. I mean I mean this video was made? In Two Thousand and seven is broadcasted by the aspect ratio and quality of of the video mostly hank when I watched those videos from two thousand seven, I remember the time that we were on phone with somebody from like adobe or something, because they wanted our opinion as like leading edge technologists about the future of Youtube and they were like. Do you think it makes sense to release video cameras that can shoot in high definition and we are like no. Why would anyone want to upload a high definition video? I was like I don't WanNa. See that aspect ratio on Youtube Youtube is four by three. I mean. Yeah? We were GonNa take forever to Upload no-one do that. I. Try to remind myself of that every time I think about the future and like I so wrong about the future so consistently, and we all are but me especially, and and yet I continue to have opinions about the future. I don't doubt that. At what point am I gonNA learn that I don't know what six months from now looks like I don't know. Maybe we're going to go back to standard definition youtube. Maybe Yeah I. Mean I think that could totally happen? If there was a good apocalypse, John I want to say a sentence to you and see what it what it does to your brain, because someone said it okay this week, any individual entity that pretends to understand the rules that guide this space is under an illusion. That do anything to your brain. Yeah! But I don't know where it comes from I've heard it before. Yeah, right? I had the same way and I was like I can hear it being sad. It's from Zeh. It's from the original show so the reason that can. I started making youtube videos because we were a huge fan of this. Guy, Zeh, frank, who made a show on his website, Zeh Frank Dot Com. They weren't even on Youtube. And we just loved this show much good and nat. There's so many episodes of the show that hold up really really well, but that line I now yeah, like we do not understand the rules that govern these spaces we do not do not, and he wrote a whole song i. think or there was or that was. That was the whole song maybe. But it feels good to say and also I feel like we'll never leave my brain even if I forget where it comes from sometimes, wow, all of which all of which is to say that Al Gore? He's. Al Gore is still out there doing Al Gore. Yeah, he's doing ongoing. Stuff is in a meeting with him. I looked up to him a lot. He was like he was like a big. A influential in environmental space yeah. He disappointed me a few times separately, but who doesn't I mean. All of which is just to say that. Yeah, I mean Al. Gore is still important. I think yeah. I'm sure he's doing stuff like if he like emailed me and was like i WanNa talk about something, I'd be like yeah okay. I might pass. I don't take a lot of meetings, but Hank Hank Hank. Take a meeting I like I like I like a good meeting with Al Gore. Just honestly just email hank. He'll take the meeting. The question comes from a non a`must deer hanging John. How do you re train? Your Brain I've listened to your hanging John. Since two thousand and eighteen also listened to a lot of other stuff, but I've only recently started watching brothers. It's come to my attention that I thought Hank was John and John was hank. I, remember who is who a mixed up child. So I had this I've had this experience a bunch of times in my life. Sure and the thing is you. Re Learn it all at once, and then once you re learn it. You can't unlearn it. Yeah, it's like a switch that gets flipped. Listen to like six months of mcelroy brothers content. Yeah, before I finally like it locked into place. Who was who was like? How would I not know? Know that for me, it was written link. Oh really for many years like the first like three years that I I watched threaten links so two thousand, seven, two, thousand, ten I, thought was Lincoln. Link was Rhett and the moment when I realized I was wrong. I was like. Oh Jeez. I think I've met those guys I. Think I've done that. I may have said it out loud. I want jokingly. said to read your link right and he was like no, no, no, I'm red and that was a joke, but like apparently it happens often enough will. There is something about link that looks reddish and something about read that looks link a show. That's just a fact. Excellent good point, but yeah, I don't worry about it. It doesn't really matter which of us is which I can't tell you how many people have got mixed up anonymous, so don't feel bad at all. I see a tweet or Tiktok daily. That's like. Did you know that there's two of them? I see that a lot I also get credit for your work. Oh, yeah, this aim. I'm grateful for and people. Come up to me and they'll be like you helped me so much with AP, biology and I'll be like you're welcome I mean. I know I know David. Weekly called me. A off off weekly. Well I mean you're not even that prolific. I was GONNA save what definition of my prolific like in comparison to whom exactly well me. I'VE NOVELS IN SIXTEEN YEARS I've written one. You were writing the whole time. No, it's true you've actually you're. You're on pace to be far more prolific than I am. We'll see how that turns out at current rates. You're going to pass like twenty twenty seven. I definitely make more Tiktok than you. Tampa's like pumping them out. I made four in the last days. Oh my God really at least I'm Outta Lake them this weekend all right? We have another question. This one comes from Scott. Who writes dear John and Hank. What is this statute of limitations for the term late for example at the moment I would expect someone to raise a reference. The late Great Fred Willard however article, mentioning the late Great Abraham. Lincoln would just be silly. What's the cutoff? I guess I, guess the the the goal of the work that that word is doing the load it is carrying is yes, just in case you were wondering. This person is not alive anymore, and so if we can reasonably expect that all people reading, it will know already that that person is not alive then we do not have to use that word. Am I correct yeah? I think that's exactly what it's designed to do. Hank. I think the intention is that if a certain percentage of readers will not already know that this person has passed away that can help contextualize the quote. What about if the person just isn't on time? Though right like the pro the perennially late. So perennially late doesn't mean just like dead, but and has been and continues to be regardless of other circumstances. Okay for you say as I, often say about you the consistently unpunctual. Tell you. How many times on a conference call I've had to like? Kill Time while waiting for you to join and so I have like four or five things I always say about you to get people excited for when Hank comes on the call seven minutes late. And, like the best is that several people have heard that hype speech more than one time Oh. Oh, yeah, so the first thing I say is I apologize for my chronically? Unpunctual? Brother will be here He's just sent me a text message. That says he's five minutes away. Then the second thing I say is. Did you know that in nineteen ninety eight hank? Green was actually named the best dancer of Winter Park High. School but the third thing that I say is that my brother Hank Green's new book beautifully solution. DENVER, just got a starred review from Library Journal. And this whole time I've just been on tiktok right? Yeah, no, that's the thing you're not five minutes away and you haven't text me. Tick Tock. Which reminds me John that. Apparently, this podcast is brought to you by Tiktok for which I deeply deeply apologize. Yeah I mean the only thing worse than having Tiktok as an actual sponsors. Basically giving. Marketing! And of course they. Brought to you by the secretary of Yourself, the secretary of yourself it crawling within and without, but not crawling, because it's all it's all deceased, and also this podcast is brought to you by Al Gore he was Vice President for eight years, and was important in the environmental movement. Okay, and also despite guesses of course brought to you by beautifully foolish out July seventh available for preorder now starred review in the library churn all. We've also got a project for awesome message. John it's from Moore's the. The Mama to quote youngest babe from teletubbies to my favorite Martian from Mr Spock to buffy to the good place. You've been my constant companion. Now you've shown me the green brothers and nerd fighters. We are on a new journey together. That's cool. That sounds cute. Whatever it is, thank you Moore's for donating to the project for awesome and for joining your child in the wonder of nerd fight area. Okay, hank, we don't usually address the you know the elephant in the room. That is one direction. But. I thought this question from L.. O. was very important she she writes dear H. N.. J. M. G.. Two previous podcast I really found myself scrolling through the one direction shopping page on Google in the middle of the night. That sounds about like my current life I found that the complete set of Wonder Action Hasbro figurines from two thousand, twelve I, starting price of thirty five dollars on Ebay, which is a steel, considering that Harry alone can cost nearly one hundred dollars of the. Liam is usually less than ten dollars, but we need and. And talk about that. My family all tried to talk me out of this, but I'm currently the leading bid and likely I will soon be the owner of this set, and so my question for you is when I come into possession of these one direction figurines. What should I do with them? Should I make a one direction shrine in the middle of my house should Barbie Dream House and make them live their lives inside of that one. That I would watch this show. I would watch this youtube channel literally watch it. You do a animated inside the Barbie Dream House, life of one direction as lived by this. Hasbro figurine set an I will subscribe to that Youtube Channel. I promise you right now I'm very excited for you. I hope that it goes well they I'm looking at the the one direction Hasbro. I'm not sure. Sure if it's the ones with the giant heads are the sort of more traditionally proportioned ones, but it's way it would be great what it's the ones. The traditionally proportioned once. Okay, great either way. I'm into it. Although yeah, the big headed ones could make a cool could make a cool youtube series to. It doesn't really matter which ones you have there. It's GonNa. Be Magical it will. Unless I outbid you right now. I'll tell you. I try very hard not to have a favorite member of one direction in precisely the same way that you know you don't pick among your children. which is your favorite but. Harry styles. He's just got something yeah I'm more of a Nihil man myself. Oh No, you're not. Believe you that sounds like something that you just said to be provocative, you know. The way that like sometimes somebody. WHO's intentionally trying to get your attention like Abraham Abraham? Lincoln was actually the worst president. Like all God. Why was Abraham Lincoln the worst president? Some stupid reason wavering Lincoln with old, definitely the worst. Yeah, sure worse than you're not a fan. I'm sorry okay. You got me fine four Nile. He really is just the Andrew Johnson of one direction. Are you talking about the the late Andrew Johnson yes yes. The late President Andrew Johnson very very late. Right I think before we could deal important news from Mars and AFC will then we have to address won a super important issue, which is a million people literally wrote us about what the size of Italy would be if it were a shoe. And nobody liked either of our answers and Watts of people use very complicated math. And I can't even read most of these emails. Because some of them were like three thousand words long like they were, they were big. A couple of people wrote actual PhD dissertations on what size shoe Italy would be if it were shoe. What I will say what I will say is that everyone agreed that you yours? You made no sense. Okay, that's not quite true. A lot of people understood what I was trying to do. They just disagreed with my calculations. Depending on your worldview. Actual size of Italy if it were a shoe in his either a women size seven, according to the most convincing argument I read, which was written by someone named Lyle. It's either a women's size seven or A size forty, million, one, hundred, Fifty, seven, thousand, four, hundred seventy. Two schools of thought I will say that the original question asker also wrote in. Great Dear Green Brothers. Thank you for answering my question about what shoe size Italy would be. Hank's interpretation was what I was going for. Although John I appreciate your answer to. We ask. I appreciate your blink to is just. Like One That one's always at the firm Hank I'm GonNa Start with the news from AFC Wimbledon. Because it is big era, it is important. AFC Wimbledon will play next season in the third tier of English football because they escaped relegation. Julia St- barely and I have to say this is a horrible way to stay up like I feel awful for the teams that are going down especially for Tranmere Rovers who would have had a very good chance of not being relegated. If the the rest of the season had been able to play out, it isn't fair and I feel about how it's ending, but of course there's also nothing fair about any of this and in the end AFC Wimbledon. Because the ranking was done by basically dividing the number of points, you'd Gotten one point for a draw three points for a win by the number of games. You'd played and Wimbledon July. Squeak ahead of tranmere by that definition, so we'll be in the third tier of English football, next season and the new stadium at Plough Lane is taking shape and looking really good. Who knows when and how? Football will start again in the third tier It's not going to be the season. The rest of the season has now been canceled. Those Games won't be played but hopefully next season will start on time, but of course the future is wildly unpredictable when football starts back though Wimbledon will be in league one, which is great news. That's exciting. And it will be at the new stadium question. Yeah it, indeed, it has to be because it can't be at the old stadium, which is now the Chelsea Women's ballclub stadium. MAZING. That's great. This will be Wimbledon's fifth season. League. One which is incredible. When we started this podcast tank, you know the whole goal for Wimbledon was to not get relegated out of the fourth tier, and then they went on that incredible run made it to the playoffs made it third tier, and they've just Kueng there year after year after year, so I'm excited to see how we somehow escape relegation next season. And every way possible is so far how you've tried to do it seriously well in Mars News. If you think to yourself, you know what I'd like to do, is help a rover. Find its way on a different planet. NASA has the thing that they would like you to do. You can help train the algorithm that they use to navigate Marzieh's terrain using. There's a tool on the internet called AI for. It's a citizen science project geared towards trying to refine and improve the algorithms that classify various terrains on Mars so your mission. Should you choose to accept it? You sort images taken by curiosity, and you draw boundaries around different bits of terrain, and you choose between four labels to describe what that terrain is and soil, bedrock and big rocks, so like rocks that you're not gonna over so by labeling the different images you will improve the sale property and object classification. Classification Algorithm that is an algorithm. It's already being used to help. People who work on the curiosity team navigate. Mars turns out figuring out how to move. A rover on a different planet is tough so it's trying to navigate the rover with a big light delays. You like can't drive it like an RC car. You have to like. Give it instructions, and it moves, and then you get more information than you get instructions, and it moves you also have to. Make sure that you like you also have to take into account how the terrain might affect the wheels, so it might not move as far as you expect it to. If it's on sand, you have to take into account. How shadows effect curiosities, distance calculations, and also you have to make sure that the rover is pointing in a direction that will give its antenna a clear view of earth, so we can keep talking to it. Also always be paying attention to them right, so it doesn't like accidentally like drive to the dark side of Mars. Yeah, that'd be bad so it's a lot to figure out. It can take hours to plan the drives, so the classification algorithm helps them do this more quickly and more easily, and you can help improve that algorithm, their eight thousand images from curiosity up on a I for Mars. Mars and they hope to add more images from spirit and opportunity in the future volunteers are also translated insight into Spanish Hindi Japanese and other languages so more people can help out, so check it out at ai for Mars. How Far Away is Mars these days? Well changes know that's why I said these days. Mars is currently one hundred and thirty six million kilometers away, so that's actually like. A long way even if you were traveling at the speed of light, that's Yeah like seven. It's about seven minutes. Yeah, so it's a fourteen minute round trip from us to the rover and back right now and that that changes a lot over the course of the year, because when we're on the same side of the sun were very much closer than were ray office. Sides of the Sun were double that more than double that so when you say it's not like driving a remote control car. It's kind of like driving remote control car only with like a fourteen minute delay between input an action. Yeah, which would be difficult to sort of get it around a track? I think Oh yeah. Definitely couldn't do that like make sure to turn fourteen minutes early to avoid the sand trap. Yeah, that's impressive. I mean I. It's still boggles my mind that we are able to communicate in any way with a thing that is on the ground of Mars yeah man. It's wild. It's almost as beautiful as sunlight itself I'm just looking at the graph of how far away Mars is from us at any given moment. It really varies dramatically well. Thank thanks for product with they. We're off to record our Patriot only podcast this week. Hank looking at the distance between Mars and earth. This podcast is edited by Joseph. Tournament, it's produced by Roseana. Awesome shared Gibson our communications, coordinator is Palo Garcia created the music you're hearing now is by the great role, and as they say in our hometown. Don't forget to be awesome.

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247: Lobster Dream Hands

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247: Lobster Dream Hands

"Hello and welcome to deer, hanging John for dear, John and Hank. It's a podcast or two brothers. Answer questions. Give you advice bringing the week's news from both Mars and AFC. Wimbledon John I woke up this morning. Absolutely covered in copies of a beautifully foolish endeavor and I I think I only have myself to blame. My last one is not book related, and it's all I got I only laugh because I looking for any pinpricks flight of the darkness. I think it's funny. Because the the the the implication is that I have a shelf. That just has copies of my own book that I. Keep Directly Above my head while I sleep. Well are finished copy of a beautifully foolish endeavor arrived over the weekend, and for those of you who don't know Hank's second novel, a beautifully foolish. Foolish endeavor comes out as this podcast is being uploaded tomorrow July seventh Tuesday July seventh. We have live events virtual going on, you can find out more at HENKEL INSERT URL here Hank Green Dot com great. Job Oh wow. I wish John Green Dot com, but it's that realtor in southern Mississippi. This is what mom and dad did do. They gave you a normal name, so you couldn't get your domain I now and then I did it to both of my children. That's fine for Henry. IV reserved. Henry Green Dot TV Info and for Alice Reserve Alice Green Dot Russia. John Actually, actually there's a dot green domain name now seek probably just get like Henry, dock, green and Alice Dock Green, and probably not John Dot Green. That's probably taken. Yeah, I wonder what it's not available. John go get it no I wanted I WANNA dot com I like John Green. BOOKS DOT COM. It's great. It expresses what turns out to have been about one quarter of my career. Anyway, our copy of a beautiful Jewish endeavor arrived over the weekend and I. Reread it, and it's just such a great book. Congratulations I really. I really think it is that rare sequel that is better than the original. It's just. I mean especially right now it has helped me understand and think more complexly about the Internet and its role in the social order, and also its role in my life, and yeah, it's just a really great. It's also of course a rollicking adventure, but the the parable side of it has had me thinking very very hard of late. Well, thank you. I'm feeling. You know as good as as good as I think. I could You know right now week before publication and. and just like the first reviews are in, and they're very positive in that feels very good. A lot of people who I trust have said really smart things that that feel like they sort of what I was trying to do. Some feeling really good about it and I can't wait for people to read it. Honestly so come see our live shows. IT HANKERING DOT com. Yes, they won't actually be there, but that's how you find out where they are. How you find out about them. Yes, all right take. Questions from our listeners beginning with this one from Marina. Who writes dear John and Hank, how can I learn how to dance? Okay like circle, dancing or line dancing, but I can't seem to get the whole. Put my hands in the air like I just don't care kind of dancing arena now, Hank. This is relevant to me as well because one of the stranger things. Things to me about our sibling hood is that although we were raised in the same home by the same parents, you were named the best dancer at all of Winter Park High, school in Nineteen, Ninety eight and I have never had a good moment of dancing in my entire life like I tried to do a tick tock dance. What do they call no Allan Jr.. Will I didn't I didn't actually upload the Tiktok Egg? Excellent new sticking with one TIKTOK, but I tried to do a Tiktok dance challenge just to be like okay like this is just a series of repeated body motions, and I know how to make all of them, so I should be able to do this. TIKTOK dance challenge in a way that looks as cool as this person who I'm watching on Tiktok and then I, did a video of myself doing the dance at I watched the video and I was like no, that's terrible. Delete that immediately. I did all the right motion put. Put it in the fire, but I was terrible. Yeah, well. I mean there's a couple of. There's a couple of reasons why it might might have not looked great i. You know I think that there's a point here. That is interesting to me that we you know theoretically share a lot of genetic information, and we raised in the same house, but I I have to ask how much MTV's the grind did. You Watch not a lot and we did have very different lives to be fair, and maybe that's part of it, but. I hear the music and the music flows through A. It's just like what comes out. Bodily is all wrong like in college I dated a dance major for a while. And it was fascinating to learn from them. How like dance worked in their lives and how? Like dance became. Like a bodily expression of are not dissimilar to any other artistic expression, whereas like to me, dancing is just it's the height of self consciousness like I'm never more aware of the fact that I have a body than I am when I'm dancing. And and as I've gotten older and my my body doesn't always move at the speed that I expect it to I get. I'm having that sensation more as well and also I will watch what happens. In tiktok dances and I will think to myself while I should be able to do that, and then I find that I am incapable of it, which makes me think that actually I learned a lot more than I think I did. That I you know in the process of watching people dance on my television upstairs in Florida and like dancing along with them. I learned a lot about how to move my body. Can I tell you what the Tick Tock dance was which one was, it was a cars that go boom. It wasn't cars that go boom, although it is lovely to me that one of the songs of our childhood cars, the boom has become tiktok phenomenon. No, it was the Hokey pokey where you do the Hokey Pokey, and you turn yourself around, and that's what it's all about you. Put your left foot in right out. Whatever I've heard. I've heard it. Yeah, so it really should have been doable right like. Like trying to accomplish. Some kind of baletic feet. What was going through your mind when you set your camera up to record yourself doing the Hokey, poke? Did you think you were potentially making content? No, no, no, no, of course not no I was never going to upload it to Tiktok I was just interested in like. Could I do the dance and I I? Don't know if I can do the dance until I look at the video and then and then I know and the answer was. You know I think that like different people do start at different levels I. Think this is definitely the case with dancing, but in general. On the Internet especially, but also all over our lives we will watch people who look like they are doing things extremely effortlessly that they actually put a lot of time into, and maybe that was fun time, maybe like that was dancing and not training like not like see feeling and seeming like work to them, but a lot of time did go into that, and that's true of. Of whether it's you know poetry, or dance, or art or novels, or any of that stuff like video blogs, and I think that in some cases we, we actually intentionally try to make it seem like very little work went into something. When actually a lot of time did right. That's a very particular aesthetic, and not just on the Internet it also predates the Internet of. Putting a lot of effort into something that looks dashed off or looks. Like. I remember as a kid thinking like that was in a way, the definition of cool. Yeah, it was people who were able to do something. Where looked like they weren't trying hard, but it was very good, but of course the only way to do something very good is to previously tried very very hard. Yeah, yeah, and in quiet darkness of your bedroom in Orlando Florida. Florida right, which is why I was trying to learn the Hokey Pokey, but now I've given up. Okay well. That's good at lots of things, though which is nice, this next question comes from Hannah. who asks deer hanging John. Why do shirts have tags? Maybe in the olden days they had to put physical tag inside shirt, but now can't this be done in other ways? Itchy just cut him off and ended up with holes in my shirts. Is it possible that shirt tags are even more useless outdated than the penny? Please help only if you've got enough, Jackets Hannah. That's real. That's that's a throwback reference I barely get that reference it so. John as you know I, am in the merchandise business, and so I know more than you'd like to know about T. shirt tags. I mean okay so first off. We are in the merchandise business. Okay all right so tags taxes were. have been a thing for a while. Really interesting thing once happened where so yes, tags have to be there legally. They are required for a couple of reasons well, the information contained in tags. Correct correct. You have to like say country of origin, and you have to say the it is legally required that you tell people how to wash the thing. And that was originally done by putting on what the materials in the shirt were, and so it'd be like this is cotton. I know how to wash cotton wool I know how to Wash Wall Now shirts and textiles have become very very complicated now and so there are lots of different things that you've never heard the name of so eventually we transitioned to just like care instructions, but those care instructions also do have to be on on the tag and sometimes those are just. Sometimes, they're written on words now. There are a couple of ways to get around the tag. One is to print the information on the shirt. This is more expensive to do. A second print location can in some cases almost double the price of a shirt. So that's why it's not done. It's more expensive than to have one thing that's been preprinted a bunch, and then to just so it and so one way to get around. This was the Hanes did this where they said? We're going to print the information on the shirt. And then they did this huge ad campaign that basically said that we are because it's one hundred percent cotton. We don't have to have a tag, but. But that wasn't true. They sort of made that sound like that to make it sound like there was like a purity to their shirts that made them so pure. That didn't have to have a tag, but really they just did a second print location. Their sales went up by thirty percent, and it was like I'm Michael Jordan add. It was a really successful thing. The other is to have Tara tags which we have on Oughta the FDA. Shirts so the tags. Are there their removable? Let me ask you a question, Hank. Yes, would it be legal to have a shirt with no tag and no secondary print location, but we're the primary print location is just the instructions. Yes, that would be yep, so we could make a shirt you could do that could make sure that just said yeah. In big letters on the front made in the United States one hundred percent cotton machine wash warm. Yep, you could do that. You'd have to find someone to sell you a shirt without a tag. Though which also might not be allowed, so you'd have to. You'd have to have to go like you'd have to basically have cut sew operational. I'm very fond of the idea of a deer Hakin John. Deere, Hankins John made the United States one hundred percent cotton machine wash warm. That's all. Sizing is also important so you. Don't WanNA. Have No, not that I'm out I do not want to have the size on the primary print location to not. At all a moving on next I thought I had a million dollar idea, but it turns out I really terrible, and we should not do it next question Isabela writes. Dear, John and Hank now I understand you might not be able to tell the truth about this on the Pod, but have either of you ever written and published a book under a pen name so as not to ride on your own success. Oh Isabella. It is so kind of you to think that the main reason one of us would write under pen name would be to not ride on our own success as if hank or Has Anything approaching that level of goodness and generosity in our hearts. If. Yes, can you recommend the book? No. Bell so obviously, and I don't want to speak for you, but if I wrote a book under a pen name I wouldn't reveal it, because the whole point of writing under the pen name would be to be able to write as someone other than myself not so that I couldn't take advantage of of past success, but so that I could in a way be be free from whatever. Expectations that people bring to my name, I'm not going ruin that on an episode of the podcast, but also as it happens, I've never done it because. Time, I'm writing a novel I. Think like Oh all publish this one anonymously and then I. Get to the end of the first draft and I'm like no neither GONNA WANNA use my name. Yeah, I want I. Want to reach people and have my audience know about the Fray Blake management. Happy like provide them with more stuff. Yeah, I is that usually the case like never I'd never really questioned this, but I guess there was this idea in my head that like this might be a. A reason to use a pen name is to is to get out from under the idea that my success is based on previous success, but if you did that I, think what you learn is that your success is based on previous success. Yeah, exactly I've made some talks that are like I want to like basically pretend like I'm not hank green and put a thing that is doesn't have my face, and it doesn't voice in it, but it's funny and those don't do as well. As. Well, so there are actually a bunch of authors who've had that experience. Right like J. K.. Rowling wrote as Robert Galbraith and got like a medium to good reviews and sold almost no copies, which is the story for you know ninety percent of fiction? I have friends who publish under other names that aren't connected to their name and they they have similar experiences I I also have friends who published under different names that aren't connected to their sort of public facing names I guess, and they tend to have similar experiences, and I think I published a book under- a different name with you know attempting to obscure the fact that it was written by me. It would do poorly. Comparatively poorly. Yeah, I've never created anything I. Don't think that wasn't using my name and I wanted to wants, and then I gave up immediately I. Do have a moderately successful private reddit account that is devoted to talking about soccer, and I will never reveal its identity because it would take all the joy out of those inane soccer conversations for me. That's great I'm glad I have nothing like that will add instead of that I just have actual. Just my normal life where none of my friends care about my job. Yeah, that's good I mean none of my friends care about my job. Either in fact I think most of my friends kind of think that like I. Don't really have a job anymore because my job is link that I used to publish those books. Right This next question comes from Mallory. Who Asks Dear John Okay, so you know how some people use air quotes when talking to each other laws thinking who even came up with that, and how would it get passed on I'm just imagining the first of a person to use air quotes doing it and then the person. They're talking to being like wait what the hell was that? I need I need my curiosity satiated. Mallory, that is that is. There was yeah, first person who was like this thing and someone was like. WHOA WHOA, right, bunny man well. No, because I think the original use of air quotes was not in quite such a sarcastic context. Okay I kind of even slightly remember this from the late nineteen nineties. and I might be wrong, but this is my personal memory of like my college years is that people would use air quotes like to actually quote people, but not in a pejorative way. Way, right you know it would be like. And then he was like I love you too, and you would use air quotes over I. Love You, too, but it didn't have the same meaning, and then I think like over time. That's my theory. Is that over time it? It became the meeting that it has now starting out in an UN- sarcastic and ironic way right just an just an evolution like you have to have some first step on the process and. And you have many steps until you finally get where where with air quotes, now that's interesting and it would explain how it would get passed from person to person but I also like it's fairly self explanatory, and I do look a little bit like I got two little bunnies, and they're hopping along well. I think people get the idea that it's a quote if you will but I don't know that they get the if you will part of it. It just from the image of air quotes I. think that, right? It's also in the intonation that naturally. That's actually weird. You actually here when I'm doing air quotes even when I'm not doing air quotes. Yes, so that's often the case on the anthropoid seen reviewed because you know I write them out in advance, but the only version awesome that exists is audio and I find myself like in the studio. Doing the air quotes right and you can totally hear it. It's funny. The things that you can hear I think the human voice, the more and more I think that like we are our primary method of communication is voice alike you know traditionally, and this is what we've like dedicated a huge amount of cognitive resources to like being able to make these noises and interpret them is. Really complicated and wild, I, starting to think that like the voice is the thing and that a society that like divorces. voice from meaning as we do often on the social internet is is. A society that has that has lost a lot of context in and you know is as much easier time sort of assuming negative intent, and I like voice. Yeah, okay, but counterargument voice doesn't have to be audible right because like voice also exists in American sign language and I would argue that voice yeah, it's in side of Internet. Speak to like. There's a difference between ll and Elo L, L. L L L L L near the difference between. This sucks and this like. I feel like on the Internet. Were in the process of developing strategies for inserting voice into taxed, but it's a process and not. Everybody's on the same page for Cherie it. It's GonNa take. It's GonNa. Take a while for that to happen and also like it's been. It's been something else like being an internet native as a lot of people are new to the thing, and I'm like I. Don't understand how you're. You're using this tool because I've been doing it for a long time, and there's a lot of cultural understanding I have around this that you do not and so like we are using it in very different ways in imagining in very different ways. Yeah all the time. All of us need to try to be a little more aware of the limited context. We bring to conversations and the ways that our limited context. Can. Shape and distort. Those conversations yeah, all right. Let's move onto this question from Laura who writes dear John Sometimes at my job as a care worker, I have to do night shifts, and one of the duties is to answer the phone and my question is what do I say when I answered the phone at two o'clock in the morning. It is no longer good evening, but is it good morning yet? Really it's not technically morning, and I can't say good night Laura speaking or it sounds as if I'm going to tell them a bedtime story I I guess. I could just say hello, but that's seem very professional language landlines war. Just in case you think that like languages finished tank. It's not. We never. We don't have words for picking up the phone at two am. Thing I remember when I certainly can't say good night. which is interesting like good evening as a greeting, good night is always an end. That's when that's how you say goodbye. Yeah, goodnight is never how you say hello. It is weird that good evening means hello and good night means goodbye like I'd never thought out just out, but you can't say good evening at two o'clock in the morning. Because now it ain't I remember when I worked the graveyard shift at steak 'n shake. There was a regular who had come in like two, thirty or three o'clock in the morning every single. Night or day depending on your world, you, I guess, and he would walk in, and he would say good morning how I just hit something. He would say good morning and I would always be like. No, it's not not on either level. I mean. It's morning. If you've slept, you know he hadn't. Yeah I guess it is Laura. I think that you're safe. Saying Good Morning at two o'clock in the morning, because it is technically two o'clock in the morning, and also the people that you're likely talking to. Since they're calling, you are presumably awake on some level so I think you can say. Yeah I also think that you can. You can go to a more traditional approach in be like you know blank residents, this person speaking, or if it's a facility like the name of the facility so there there are. There are like actual professional ways to do it. But I'm not sure who you who you're answering the phone for because when I. Walk in the morning. What I say is what's wrong. No, but if it's like a patient, you don't want to announce the name of facility where they know that they are staying before saying this Laura like you can also right, you could also just say this is Laura. Yeah I've always thought that that's a pretty succinct way to get to the whole job of saying hello. Right is to get to the point. It's the whole right because the whole job saying how low is to establish that the connection has been made like that's the reason word. Hello was literally invented. It was literally invented for the telephone as a way of saying like. Yeah, go ahead. Do I ever say hello not on the phone. I usually say Howdy, or how are you or good afternoon or something like that? You have a very particular way of saying hello on the phone to I. Don't know if you know that. Do I tell me more? It's it's. It's slightly resigned. world-weary. You say hello. Like usually when you call somebody on the phone, hello, this is A. Totally, Usually. When you call someone on the phone, they say hello as a question mark like because they don't know what's on the other end of the line. You use you actors. If you do know is. If you know exactly what's about to happen, say hello, it is. It is every time you call me I. Know It's you know. Maybe that's just hello. The you get and to be fair I. Don't generally call with good news. Yeah. Usually when we call each other, it's because there's a problem if it's were about to record a podcast. Yeah, if it's good news, we text happy birthday. If it's good news, I'll just make you a video. It's true. Hello John have another questions from Jj. Who Asks Dear John Hello I'm high school senior. Who just finished my first internship? Oh. Right there, it's actually in the question. It was fine I enjoyed the internship, but my primary takeaway was that I don't like meetings should be concerned about this. How can I become a functioning adult? If I don't like meetings, they seem very important to adult life. The first Google result of my name is Swedish. Band Jj. Jj, you gotta get yourself into a position of power. It's GonNa. Take a bunch of meetings, but once you're there. Then you can get rid of the meetings yet. And then what you'll find, jj is that you slowly have to reintroduce the meetings. One by one turned out that they were all there for a reason, so so jj internship occurred during lockdown I do have a small piece of good news, which is that in person meetings are slightly very slightly less unbearable than zoom meetings. Yes, I. also think it's very important that you try and schedule meetings for the appropriate on amount of time and I. Know that you're not a person who's in charge of this, but for the people who are. If you are JJ superior and you are planning these meetings. Do not just let them go on for the amount of time that they take because weird thing about meetings. They will take exactly as long as you plan them to take. Yes, if you say it's going to be fifty minutes is going to take fifty minutes because it's going to be fifteen. GonNa take fifteen as as. I am a huge believer in not only an ending meetings early, but in celebrating the success. Oh yeah, that is inherent to ending meeting earlier. Yeah, so when we end meeting early at complexly Indianapolis I, try to thank each and every person for making this special moment possible. That's one thing. The other thing is that it is possible to live in a world without meetings, even like if you work in an office setting like it is impossible for us in our work, it isn't possible for lots of other kinds of work. But like when I worked at Bush magazine as production editor and as an assistant, there were a lot of meetings in the sense that I would I would go and I would talk to people I worked with, and I would have questions for them and. And I would get those questions answered, and sometimes we would gather in small groups and have those conversations, but because they were not scheduled or formalized, they lasted much less time, and they were like far more efficient, and there was only one meeting a year. Who admittedly I look back on that time of my life with the level of nostalgia that is inappropriate to how happy I actually was in those years but I will say this while the years of my early adulthood were probably. The worst of my life so far though lack of meetings was the great saving grace of it all I would go weeks months sometimes without even thinking about a meeting. This is not a familiar idea to me though I. Guess I did also have jobs had very very few meetings. I've forgotten what life is like which reminds me? The today's podcast is brought to you by meetings meetings. Everyone hates them, but they still happen. This podcast is also brought to you by air quotes air quotes. It's when you WANNA. Say something. This podcast is also brought to you by hanks, pseudonymously written novel Hanks pseudonymously written novel. Add verbally adjective Noun The wild thing about this that the question asked her thought that either of US would have had time to do anything they don't know about. This podcast is also brought to you by the shirt tags shirt tags. They have vitally important information that is legally required to be on the shirt somewhere. We also have a product awesome message from Dragush to WANNA Hello WanNa Pingu Shout out for being an awesome person, but I decided to take drastic measures to get your attention. Panda feels like he's being ignored. Nar Wipe thinks you should be training more. You never know when the apocalypse comes. Let's avoid having a switch a Zora for Corgi and are white mission anytime soon you dragush would never notice. I have no idea what just happened, but all the words I understood none of that I think I know what a Corgi is. Yeah, AH, I. Meant to not understand. Yes, I believe. That was a code that begins World War three and I for one. Ready to be remembered by history. PODCASTS. Fit Washed it all off. This comes from Sherry who writes to John and Hank I've been watching fog brothers for a while and I've noticed that you to use the same account to both post and watch slash comment on other videos, but why like I don't imagine your Youtube. Recommendations are very representative of what you actually want to watch and it just seems pretty inconvenient. Well actually. Our Youtube recommendations on the blog brothers channel are totally representative of what we WANNA watch. Because the only two people who watched videos on the weather channel are me and Hank and what I have experienced anyway is that hank introduces me to a lot of new sides of Youtube that I. turn out to enjoy yeah, and John Introduces me to people playing Tetris and yelling about soccer. Yeah. There's there's definitely more to like. Yeah I, mean I find all kinds of stuff because John has been watching it and like I just went to where youtube channel and there's like speed runs of video games, which Jonah super into, but like I also like watching them wouldn't see them if not for if not for having John Yeah and we introduced each other to like. Like, new history channel's in different educational channels as well so in some ways. It's almost a way that we can communicate without communicating. Yeah, it's a way that we can share each other's interests without having to like formalize strategy for it. Which I really love. Now you have to get the right person to share your youtube account with the. Don't get me wrong like. GotTa be a lifelong deep relationship, but Yeah, I think it's great I would suggest it I I think that my youtube page is better than it would be without you I definitely feel the same way and I also think that if you weren't there till like I, there's a certain amount of like stuff I might watch that I. don't because I know that you'll know you don't hate like to to yeah too much. Hey, so and then like shows up in John. John text is like what did you watch? Yeah, well, what did you watch? Why are these things being suggested yet? Yeah, it only takes like one forty five minute conspiracy theory video to really reshape the Youtube Algorithm suggestions to us and so I take. And I'm like he's stop watching these videos that do nothing, but make you angry because the algorithm doesn't care if you're angry or happy or well informed, it cares that you're there, yeah! And it wants to. It wants to drag you into the algorithms goal is to get you to pay a lot of attention to the platform, and however it can draw you deeply in down the rabbit hole It's GonNa. Take you there and I for one think speed runs and high level competitiveness tetris are the the very best that youtube has to offer. John, next question comes from Kate who asks. Deer Hang John for the past few weeks I've been having a weird dream in which my family moves and I go to a new school, which is normal until I talked to a girl, and then she turns into a lobster while I'm talking to her, and then she chases me around with her lobster hands. What does it mean with Kate Expectations Kate? May We haven't had enough good name specific sign off lately. That was great. Thank you, but it doesn't mean anything. Well, but it's recurring right. First of all lobsters don't have hands. They have claws well. We don't know what lobster people having. Okay, so let's not tell Kate that. Her dream is an anatomically incorrect. She's already going difficult enough time, but I have like not. That recurring dream like similar recurring dreams and what I enjoy about it is that if you have the dream enough, it almost becomes like groundhog day where right before the person at the new school turns into the lobster person. You can think to yourself. She's about to become lobster person. And that's when you start. You really have control over the dream because I have some like pretty scary recurring nightmares. But if I on the occasions, when I'm able to be aware of it enough to be like, Oh, I bet the I bet. The weird horrible thing is about to happen, and then it happens like new call. There's a there's a little level is a little level of control in that for me. So what does it mean? It means that you're anxious about life and your brain is throwing anxiety producing scenarios at you to try, and maybe inner you to future or prepare you to future stressors. He probably is what we think. Dream one of the reasons why? Why we have these stressful dreams why? What does it mean that the that the the source of the stress is lobster girl nothing just your brain trying to come up with something that sounded stressful. It's like what what do you got like this dress? Bang lobsters all right. That's good, but like also something else meeting someone for the first time. Great great work. It's going to put those two things together. Exactly I think all of us are maybe trying to process a little more anxiety than usual, and so it's GonNa. Be lobster people for a while. That's my summary of twenty twenty ANC before we get to the news from Mars and AFC Wimbledon. I just WANNA say a personal. Thank you to the several of you who wrote in to say congratulations to Liverpool on winning the Premier League. Many of you are also Liverpool fans, and and it meant as much to some of Y'all it meant to me. ME. People in Liverpool are often called scouse. In fact there's a sign. Famous sign held up in the stands at Anfield. Says we're not English. Were scouse and whatever puddle and Jen wrote in, and said to be scouts is to persist to be resilient to keep waiting and hoping until one day, and that day for Liverpool fans has arrived and while. Obviously sports are not important For me. Liverpool winning the Premier League is a reminder that as as they say in the pool song you'll never walk alone though your dreams be tossed and blown. Walk on, walk on with hope in your heart, and you'll never walk alone. So thanks everybody who wrote in about that and I'm really really happy that Liverpool Premier League after Thirty Years Pretty Pretty Great Development in a amid dark times. The news from from AFC Wimbledon this week. Hank is also encouraging. One of our better players last season, is a young man named Shane McLaughlin and there was some uncertainty about his contract, because the club is under a lot of financial stress. Obviously, it's you know. A Wad of players have had to be released, but we have just signed Shane McLaughlin up for another season of hard hard work in AFC Wimbledon's midfield, so that's encouraging Shane McLaughlin is. Is the kind of player who can keep us in league one for another season. So I'm excited I'm glad and I I guess that's I guess we're headed into that part of the news cycle where we're GONNA. Hear about whether or not you've you're keeping your players and what new players you're getting next week. All share the names of the forty three players. We had to release. ooh! Well the news from Mars is does also make the the anxious noise. No and launch has been pushed back again. Who knows Dylan big window still a big window? So on June twenty four th NASA announced that there was a contamination issue in the ground support lines and I. Don't know what this means. What isn't I might? So I know what ground support is ground. Support is the the people who help out with getting things that go up to go up, but they themselves do not go up. Right I I know yeah, but what is kit contamination in the lines I don't even know what. Line is but what I'm imagining possums so right it's. Like something like that. Maybe there was water where there shouldn't have been water, or there was carbon dioxide where there should I don't know, but it might have been possums, so there's contamination in the ground support lines, and that came that that happened as the rover was being encapsulated in the atlas, five rocket, the launch was originally scheduled for July seventeenth got pushed back to July twentieth. Now it is pushed back to July twenty second so They have to clean up that. Whatever that is in the ground support line I'm just guessing possums, and then the rocket. Itself seems to be all good. The company building the rocket United Launch! Alliance pulled off wet dress rehearsal, which includes fueling the rocket, so at all went well. The launch window is through August eleventh, but mean to I. Twenty second to eleventh is not a huge period, and if they missed that, it's a nineteen month way, right? It might be possible to extend through August fifteenth so basically. What what's happening is at that. We're getting farther and farther away from Mars right so you have to use more fuel. And, then you have less fuel leftover for contingency, and then so then the the decision making point means like. Do We? WanNa dip into our contingency fuel or we WANNA. Wait two years for another launch, so users August fifteenth. Honestly, probably we would still launch if that was there, but yes, joy twenty-second is the current launch date and everybody cross your fingers for that definitely. Keep my fingers crossed. I'm starting to get nervous already. And now it's unfortunate because I I already had as it happens a full complement of anxieties. On your when you're when you're playing Uno and you already have the largest sand. Someone gives you that that wild draw for. Like. Really. Sorry So gap by the news is the news the news the news banks robotic. John This podcast is edited by Joseph Tuna Medicine. It's produced by Roseana. Halls throw Hossam Sheridan Gibson. Our communications coordinator is Julia Bloom. The music you hearing now at the beginning of podcast is by the Great GonNa. Roll as they say in our hometown. Don't forget to be awesome.

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"Each. Listener supported W NYC studios. Welcome, to dear, Hank in John. You're John and Hank. It's the podcast where two brothers empty questions we give you advice and we can bring you all the week's news from both Mars and AFC Wimbledon John. John Yeah what kind of car do people drive in the fall? Of, Volkswagen Autumn, an automobile. I was so close. I knew the yeah you got. You Got Close I knew that there were two major words for autumn. It's it's GonNa Damara was the first day of fall, John Yeah, and my son gets really excited about fall I. Think he only remembers one other one and he will come into the house screaming I. See a sign of fall That's very sweet which is really great. I am less excited about this fall that I have been about any fall during my lifetime because the weather is about to get colder and all of my socialization occurs out. Of doors I am also terrified of fall everything about fall seems bad to me I I go outside and it's a little cool in orange like it's a sign of fall and I'm like don't don't dome winter is coming yes. Yes. The the even started to change year a little bit and I just feels very very ominous to me right now. Yet, the leaves have started to change here as well. Especially, the maple trees and it is a little. Look. It's possible that six months from now you and I are going to look back on this fall and winter and be like, wow, that was so great. It was better than Spring and summer. I. Think that's probably less likely. Yes. Sins likely and so what I'm trying to remind myself of is that regardless of what happens and we don't know what's going to happen we will keep going for as long as we can as well as we can. That's my motto for our species. Okay let yes, and we have done a remarkable job of it so far maybe in some cases to remarkable, I was gonNA say like remarkably bad at times remarkably good and other times but above all extremely remarkable it. If there's one adjective you can apply to ours young she's it is remarkable. I will remark on NASA that is something one can remark on no doubt about it. Yeah I think we're definitely we may not be the best species that ever lived on earth but we are definitely the most remarkable. We're the most remarkable thing in the known universe. Yeah, like I feel. Like I could spend way more time remarking on humans than I could remarking on say Venus but we'll get to that at the end of the pod. Let's start out with some questions from our listeners including this first question from Steph who writes dear John and Hank my roommate and her rabbit floyd have auditioned and Ben cast in a rabbit agility competition petition TV show. We're pretty sure this is not a weird scam. Steph. Let me stop you right there. How sure are you? Yeah, I feel like you need to be very sure that this is not a scam. I used to be very sure that said while I think it is maybe a scam I also think I would watch the heck out of a rabbit agility competition TV show. Yeah. The plan is for my roommate and Floyd to fly to Los Angeles for a weekend sometime in the spring to shoot. So this question like all questions deep down is about the pandemic is Floyd's breakout role worth the risk. How do you plan? For and agree to something that so far in the future, we'll the virus be contained by the spring where in Canada. So we're pretty wary of the United States right now floyd is employed Steph. I might continue your level of wariness of the US on into the future potentially permanently I think floyd be. Okay. So let's just like car floyd out of the equation unless floyd can go by themselves which I don't know if. That's allowed. Can you just get on a plane I? Feel like the rabbit agility TV show is going to involve an owner but maybe not maybe not here's here's here's here's my honest answer I think being on reality. TV. Shows is a lot of work for usually very little screen time or other reward. That is that is definitely the case I think like the amount of pleasure and happiness and Fun Times that you get. Out of being on a TV show is usually pretty limited unless you're desperate to meet other people in the rabbit agility world in which case I, guess, maybe it could be a cool opportunity. Yeah. That's a great point. Two great points John of the first one being we should. I would like to see a survey of how people feel about their reality television show experiences, and at one time, this would be very difficult to do. Now. You can simply survey one, hundred, Americans and get thirty. and. They will tell you how they felt about it. Yeah. It's not even an exceptional experience anymore to be on reality TV it's something that appears to happen to just about everyone who hasn't been on wipe out at this point. Yeah. We've been watching a wipeout related show called cannonball and it has like twenty four contestants per week. Most of whom by the way are onscreen for like between six and a seconds. Yeah, and for this. Like jump into a freezing cold lake of water. It's always so cold. Is it always so cold I don't know these things in the summer. Well, they're trying to make a point. At. Any rate. Here's the deal. steph would hank and I do this show? No no, but are Hankins. Passionate experts in in rabbit agility also no now, and it may be the kind of community that is. And I don't know how what the the sort of like, what, how lucrative this is You know if the if the upside is what could it possibly be John in the thousands of dollars I would hope that you get a free flight free lodging and maybe like twelve hundred bucks and like a ton of carrots food. A year's supply of rabbits actually like carrots or is that just? Of course karat anyway it's this outlets don't listen don't listen to us. Oh all right. Let's move on this next question comes from me who asks a question that we received in many different forms, which is wild and terrifying help Mumia says they're currently wildfires where I live in Oregon that are spreading pretty quickly. We are in the level one evacuation zone meaning that we should be packing and have a plan. I don't know what to pack. What should I bring should I bring my great grandma's share some of my favorite books My stuffed shark from Iky at that I sleep with how many candles is too many candles to bring. Should I have had a list of things to bring before this even started not the Obama me this is why we are asked answering this question because we cannot is food too late I think probably to help me but is hopefully not too late to help other people make a list you gotta make a list. It's got it because this is a such a stressful situation if you have a little bit of time to leave. And you have a list then you can just check things off on the list and study after study after study after study shows that checklists work. Yeah and what they really show is that not having a checklist doesn't work. So you end up in situations where you very much thought you were going to bring in a specific thing with you and you did not. Bring that thing. Now, it's very hard to know exactly when you say like, okay what can we fit in the Subaru what are the things that that you both cannot replace and that you really do not want without and you know going going through that and spending time on it is the only way to make those decisions yet it's just such a hard thing and. We know so many people are going through this right now including friends of ours and we wish you all the best and it's it's scary. I don't know what else to say about it. Yeah. Even if you are not an current wildfires zone, there are lots of reasons that you might need to evacuate your home and so having some supplies on hand and left. Of what you want to bring with you is always a good idea hang sometimes, I think back to early in this podcast when you told me that you keep like a two week supply of water and food with you at all times and I split five what does the government recommends? It's not even it's not weird I laughed at you and you ever and now. Well How the turns have tabled. It maybe that I have more than I used to have. I. mean. You really don't ever know and I do think it's useful to have a checklist. It's also important to know that. Sometimes you have to leave without going through the checklist. Yeah and if you have to leave, you have to leave and and your life is more important than any stuff. Yes. The only thing that can't be truly replaces is your life. No there are lots of the things that also, of course, they're just not as valuable. You got that one. You can remake your grandma's chair get out on whittling knife disturbing all right This next question comes from Craig who asks dear John and Hank did people fold paper airplanes before the Wright brothers. Yes. Yes. I know a lot about this. Now because we did research on it, I, know a fair amount about it to people folded paper airplanes maybe from the advent of paper it seems to have been quite soon after paper and amazing thing is that I found out in this research is that Davinci designed that helicopter thing the orange shop I don't remember what it's called is called something neat it. He actually made a paper model. Of it to see if it would work, and so that was kind of paper plane before they were called paper planes because they weren't called planes planes didn't exist. They were called paper darts. So we know that paper darts existed because it was a legal and you could be fined ten dollars for throwing a paper DART, at the New York Stock Exchange during the eighteen hundreds which makes me think that for awhile this was a problem. So they had to, they had to have a rule about it. Yeah and it seems that paper planes were both pretty common and that they helped inform some questions in airplane design. Yeah. Through the twentieth century. So you know if you're out there Fulton paper planes, you're engaging in an activity that is much older than air travel with to be fair. Almost all human activities are older than air travel. A apparently they only became started being called paper planes So even after the advent of planes, there was still called paper darts and only began being called paper planes. Once there were some planes that started to look more like paper darts slow. That, we see these days. That's a little lesson in linguistics right there hank. It's pretty cool. All right. It's time for our weekly question about voting in the United States. We're only GONNA do one of these a week. The though it, there was a chance that this was going to turn into a how to vote in America podcast what's going to happen? Not to do that, but we are going to answer one question about voting every week the voting system in the united. States we bit complex. You can learn more by looking up how to vote in every state. The Amazing Youtube, channel that Hank and folks complexly have made together but this election is extremely important in the united. States it's important to people outside of the United States as well because the the US is so globally significant and we want to. Help people understand how to vote. So Diana writes dear John last year or maybe two years ago time as meaningless. Now, one of you recommended a website that lets you view your full ballot in US elections when you type in your address and I found this super useful last year or possibly two years ago, and now I cannot find it do you by any chance have it handy pumpkins and Penguins Diana it's called Ballot Pedia I. Think. Is that correct? John. Was the my brain. Yes it is called ballot pedia dot org but you can just Google look up my sample ballot and it is It will usually be the first search result although of course, your search search results are tailored to USA for all I know your first search result might be some kind of political misinformation but ballot pedia dot org and you can look up your sample ballot and then you can see all the things that you'll be voting for, and you can do a little bit of research and figure out who you to vote for. For the various offices and on the various resolutions and whatever. It's also possible that your your local election people will do a better job than ballot about PD. We'll just tell you what the elections are give you sort of really for individual elections. They'll just tell you the people that are in them. Then you can let them up for things like ballot initiatives or laws that you might be voting on they. They usually give a pretty bare bones version of it and those tend to be more well explained at the local level so you can also look up. Sort of like type in sample ballot, and then like your county, and it may be that the they will provide that for you on the Internet pretty easily but it may be that that's not the case because it's again administered very locally in the US. So that's why things like ballot pedia are great because that works for everyone they figured out how to do it. Yes. So we'll up your sample ballot and please make sure you're registered to vote mature registration is current and that you have a land to vote just like it's important to have a checklist in other parts of your life if you can have a checklist about how you're gonNA vote. And know exactly how you're GONNA do it. It makes it far far more likely that you will actually see it through and you can find out if you're registered to vote very easily going to vote dot Org they just have you type in your name and address and they can look up the on the National Registry and tell you whether you're registered is really important to check and. Really. Really easy to do at vote Dot Org, and then once you're done doing that you can go to you com slash how to vote in every state and find your estate look it up. There is a shorter than three minute video there for you to watch John. This next question comes from Jessica who asks dear John, why don't we hear animals Fart I'm just GonNa stop you right there. Gone Yeah Yeah I feel like dogs fart extremely loudly it's true that we don't hear a lot of wild animals farting but that's because we don't I presume that's because. Yeah. We're not near them. Yeah Jessica says, why don't we hear cacophony of little toots in the woods or at the zoo? I mean, how often do you Jessica? Is. A cacophony coffee in your home. But maybe if you got like enough monkeys around, you would expect to hear a lot of farts. But Yeah, you can definitely hear animal parts and it is not a cheek thing which is proposed by Jessica. In fact, I've done a little bit of research and it seems to mostly be about the opening. The the anus yes thinker they're sure and that you can actually like there was a doctor who was asked about this who spends a lot of time down there and discussed That in just like anything else with noise. There is both what we call the frequency and the amplitude amplitude is how loud something is in the frequency is how how it vibrates. So you can control frequency by tightening usually or loosening, and you get a higher pitch or lower pitch like I'm doing my voice right now so I can go. or I can go out. And that is about the amount of amount of air moving through the things you can. You can force more air through in that makes it louder or you can tighten or loosen in that will adjust the frequency apparently something that is we are all capable of doing to some extent with our own petits. I find that I have very little control over the frequency or the amplitude I definitely have control over the amplitude. Okay well. Does. Dozens of the guess dedicated to. Eleven. Year old listeners. We just want you to know that. We see. We know you're out there eleven year olds, and we hope you enjoyed that this next question comes from anonymous rates dear John and Hank recently finished graduate school and it took me like four months to get a job which was very stressful and I finally found a job at an oil company which has in the reception area a painting of the monopoly man being showered by oil and dollar bills. Now my God. I could see a picture of it right now we're not gonNA post this on the Patriot Patriot dot com dear John because we're not trying to get this person fired, but this is an epic epic painting of the Monopoly Man Holding an umbrella with the umbrella of money, and then oil and money is showering down on the monopoly man. Yeah, and it is it is an unsigned paintings. Do, not, know who the artist I I love everything about this painting what Y'all? Yes. Very much what I wanted in my home probably not. But what I love most about it is that it's the least self-aware painting I've ever seen in my entire life. Okay. Oil companies are famous for being unethical to put it mildly I don't want to work for the bad guys but I also need to pay rent and eat and the job market is terrible for obvious reasons. What should I do to feel like I'm not part of the problem of slowly destroying our society Anonymous. Hank I'm thinking John. Oh. Okay. I don't know the answer to that question. Okay. So I I have I think an answer. Okay. You Go I. Think if you want another job and you want to work in a different industry, you should pursue other job opportunities. I also think that there is no such thing as completely ethical consumption in a system of extractive capitalism I just don't think that exists. I think the work that we do for money is an important way that we allocate our attention and our resources, but it's definitely not the only way right? Like we also allocate our attention resources by the causes that we care about the causes that we support with our money and with our time and we. Allocate our resources by how we decide to distribute our votes and by how we decide to distribute the money that we make and I absolutely understand like needing to pay rent and the challenges that brings like those challenges are kind of inherent to the system as we are currently imagining it. Now, obviously, we need to imagine these systems very differently, but that's where we are right now. Well, here's here's the other thing I think it's important to recognize that. You working at an oil company is exactly as ethical as me using oil, which I also do and most people. Do you know if you are working at an oil company doing specifically unethical things if you are working to slow the public's understanding of climate change in the severity of that problem that's a totally different thing. But like people have to work in the oil industry because we. Need Oil for lots of things have oil just stopped happening right now it would be very bad for humans. Lots of people would die like it wouldn't be like a small problem. You know obviously, we need to move away from these systems as fast as possible but also I think that it's important to recognize that the people who work in that industry are doing work that is necessary. As it exists right now. Now, absolutely those companies are working very hard and spending lots of money to slow our transition away from their product, and that is unethical and it's extremely dangerous and it's going to have a long-term negative impact on many many people. Probably all people but I try to understand that like my life is dependent upon the hard work of people in extractive industries even F I think that we should be working as fast as we can to not have that be the case. So like somebody's going to have to do this work and it is probably best done by people who can bring a diversity of viewpoints into that company whether it is at a very level or not just having it be a bunch of people who all believe that climate change is bunk would be not great. So I think it's important that we have good people. Working in these industries for as long as they are necessary, we also need to be working as hard as possible to be making them not necessary quickly. Yeah John This next question comes from Tina Steer John had a dream about giants. They were destroying my home city. I was fast enough to outrun them. But I was wondering what giants actually be slow. They're so big time work differently for them. I feel like time is much faster for flies with the opposite for giants still stuck in quarantine. Tina Corentin team question. John it is I think we're all dreaming some version of being attacked by giants yeah. I mean there. There's something to be said that all of the big animals do go slower. There has to be good scientific reasons for this I guess like foresee was mass acceleration. So if you move faster the the force of moving is larger if you are more massive. Yeah. So I guess yeah, you would have to be. You'd have to be slower like blue whales. Can move fast but they're individual body parts move slow. Yeah. How fast do elephants run because I feel like elephants are the best model for giants we currently have. Yeah Well, how would you guess that elephant can run I would guess that an elephant can run approximately twelve miles an hour well, and how fast do you think the average or the fastest human can run well I know that Hussein built can run one hundred meters in just under ten seconds and using the power of mathematics would imagine that means that. He runs it like twenty miles an hour twenty-seven. About twenty seven miles an hour. It's pretty good. I was in the neighborhood. So so you can go twenty, seven miles an hour I bet I king go like. Maybe. A little bit I know for a fact that I can go like and a half miles an hour but only for about a quarter mile yeah. I'm like a Cheetah. Really. See. African Bush top speed is twenty five miles an hour k. so they're fast so they're fast so we should be very very afraid of giants. Yeah. I think now I think giants are are an active threat. I was not worried about giants until this question was asked. Yeah. Now I'm very worried about you. Well, the thing about giants is that I think are stories about giants tend to portray giants as being very slow because otherwise. There would be no match you know like it. There wouldn't be a competition between regular people and giants. The giants would have already one and it would be over and so we have to imagine them as being weak somehow. And so we imagine them like Oh yeah. No, they're big but we're fast. You will I mean the thing about elephant moving fast is that it's body parts don't look to be moving that fast because it's just big right? So you've got a long stride. This is the case with blue whales right where it's like the the back, the thin the back fin there the tail as what's called can move quite slowly but be pushing a lot rarely hard right and Yeah. So. So a fly look like moving very fast but actually be going quite slow because it's just like in comparison to its body size you know the other thing about giants that just occurred to me is that we often imagine giants is not being very smart, right? Like role dolls giants aren't that smart and I think also because if we imagine them otherwise they become an existential threat to us. Yeah. Well I mean we like to imagine some things that are threatening? Yeah. But we love to be able to like take them down somehow right like Ray. David David and Goliath only works because David's got that slingshot. We love the story where humans are in with a chance right? Odds are long but we can do it. Yeah. Vampires are immortal. Exactly. So yeah, giants I think would probably be pretty fast and could you run away from them probably not. So let's just not have there be giants win for everybody, which reminds me the gusts brought to you by they might be giants, they might be. And I'm not going to see them in concert next month which. Is. Also brought to you by the monopoly man being bathed in oil and dollar bills. He's just he's just covered. He's just absolutely covered dino that he has a name and that his name is rich uncle pennybags. Oh Gosh. Well, at least it's just pennies in those bags. Yeah. That's more. That's more a weapon than a than A. Three. Five guys is also brought to you by the television program cannonball, the television program cannonball. It's like the the breaking bad of reality-tv. Koch and this podcast finally is brought to you by the amplitude. Platoon it can be controlled. I find that it really can't be well need practice more. We also have a project Rossett message from Oliver Kocit Oliver Thank you for donating to the project for awesome if this is being read in twenty twenty Oliver Rights chances are it's a pretty stressful time right now. thanks for acknowledging that Oliver. Appreciate it I just wanted to remind everyone to take a moment to breathe to try to find calm and then return to putting your energy toward whatever matters to you. Thanks man yeah that's so lovely over. Thank you. These days we're all itching to shake things up a bit deer, hanging Jonah supported by hellofresh, delivering variety of unique recipes right to your doorstep for you to cook at home with the family. These recipes are easy to follow quick to make with simple steps in pictures guide you along the way I'm going to add here that I find that cleanup too often be very easy with hellofresh, which is something that I appreciate a great deal as the person who does the cleanup hellofresh cuts out stressful meal planning and Grocery store trips. So you can enjoy cooking and getting dinner on the table in about thirty minutes or even less. I don't know about that. I don't I. Don't know if I. One hundred percent agree with that. I may be chopped a little slower than some people. 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They're playing sports, they're playing sports hank. The League one season has begun and it began with a bang followed by a whimper followed by another bang followed by another whimper AFC Wimbledon tied to two in their first game of the League one season against recently promoted Northampton town. Now, we are favorites to be relegated this season. But north. Can you call a favorite when that's the situation we are considered yes. We, we are favorites to be unfavored this season, but now Northampton town is even more favorite to be unfavored than we are. So this wasn't necessarily a great result but AFC Wimbledon did score a goal twenty two seconds in to their league one campaign, which is fairly promising. I. Think on the whole I thought we played really well, I watched the game. There was a lot of attacking from AFC Wimbledon, I felt like we had more possession to the ball better passing than I've seen certainly in the last couple seasons I thought some of the. New players were really promising. In fact, one of the new players Ethan Chiswick scored I don't want to say that I feel hopeful because I don't even know if the season is going to get completed who who knows. But yeah I I do feel like that was a good game and it was just really fun to watch AFC Wimbledon play football again which just yeah it just it felt like a little dose of normality amid all of the everything else and so it was just a joy you can listen to the broadcast the radio broadcasters. Fans in the stadium, but you can listen to the broadcast Radio wd o n or on they have they have an APP AFC Wimbledon does and it's just great I loved I loved the two commentators. One of them has a photographic memory and remembers every single game that Wimbledon has played on every single day and so like fifty five minutes into the broadcast, he'll be like this reminds me of twenty seven years ago on this day when of course, like you know Wimbledon. Lost to your billtown goals were scored and I'm just like Oh. This is a J-. It's just such a joy that it's all back. So yeah, it was really lovely and then Hank then I found out the best news of all which is that there's life on wife on Venus. Mars News are Mars News. This week will be we'll be Venus news because it does impact of Mars in the main way, which is that for a long time, we have thought our best chance of being able to study life outside of our planet in the solar system would be Mars and this isn't because it's the most habitable place in the sewer system. It is just the easiest to get to that. It also has a chance of either having you know potentially existing life but much more likely signs of ancient life that that stopped being around a long time ago and the much. More likely candidate for life or the the liquid oceans inside of the gas giant mouton's So there's lots of water there. There's lots of heat there. So you know if life can happen on the hydrothermal vents of Earth, there's basically no reason why couldn't happen on enceladus for example, but but that's neither here nor there Mars was like it's easy to go to Mars you can land there and walk around fairly easily unlike everywhere else you certainly can't walk around on mercury certainly can't walk around on Venus would even hotter than mercury you can like the surface of Venus you can melt. Like it's not a good place, it's not a good for a lot of different reasons, but it turns out that the upper atmosphere of Venus. So like way up in the atmosphere, there's a, there's basically a fairly narrow band of Venus's atmosphere that is like twenty degrees Celsius, which is like beautiful outside it's one atmosphere of pressure. So like same as earth and so water can be liquid there and is liquid there. The problem is that Venus a big problem with with acid. So it's very sick. Way More acidic than any life on earth could live inside of it's like ninety percent acid like a person could be there easily as long as they didn't let the atmosphere touch their skin. If they breath through example, they would die instantly. Sure very painful way. Right. But the idea is that possibly excuse me for walking through this whole thing. Possibly, we think in the early life of Venus, it was a fairly nice place to be even on the surface and possible that during that period of time life evolved there. If that happened then over the course of Venus becoming less and less hospitable, the life like. Certain kinds of organisms could have evolved to live in this actually fairly hospitable compared with the rest of Venus layer of the atmosphere. Now, we don't have anything on earth that can live in anything like the acidity that we have Venus. We have extreme files on earth that can live in acidic environments but those exotic environments are not are like basic like forty times less acid than raid is on Venus. So could there be life in that zone may be and people have talked for a long time about whether there could be life and not zone but just recently last week there were some scientists who who published. A paper, very exciting paper that said, they found phosphene, which is basically a Monja but instead of nitrogen, there's phosphorous Boston's a super bad gas here on earth. We don't study at that much because it's very dangerous but here on earth some bacteria do produce phosphene in environments where there's oxygen. So one of the biochemical pathways that produces energy for life to live on one of the byproducts is phosphene. We don't know of any other way that Boston could be created on Venus. This doesn't mean that it can't be created on Venus there are things we don't understand about how Venus's atmosphere works. Obviously, we've never. been there we've only studied from afar. We know quite a bit about it like we're learning more about it every day we also don't know that like as much as we could about phosphene because it's not a fun thing to study in general the more dangerous chemical is the less it is studied because chemists want to live to to a ripe old age and you know almost every chemist no somebody who who didn't tore know somebody who somebody who didn't. So you be careful in the lab. So there are things we don't know about both of those things that and those two unknowns along with the the. Claims requiring extraordinary evidence means that there's nobody out there saying that like we found life on Venus but we did find a chemical that indicates like we have both the both sides of the story now, where we've got like this space where life could certainly exist if it could evolve to be delivered in such an acidic environment and we also have this bio signature that we don't know how would be created without life and. That's really exciting and interesting. There is really only one way to figure out what's going on though, and that's to send a probe to Venus Scott Venus, some atmosphere. For us to look at, we've got a dead and Venus you open it up the foster gas comes out along with the microbes and. Almost. Definitely they die instantly and we can study them, and then there's the sort of like you know point zero, zero, zero, one percent chance that it's like Oh. Wow I found a perfect home it's inside your brain matt turns out bad. So you gotta be really careful when you're doing that kind of thing because it's it's uncharted waters. We never studied microorganism from another planet before but boy do I want to or more correctly I want someone some human to write this is somebody who knows more of what they're doing. I this is very exciting to me, and I have to remind myself that sometimes the things that I want to be true appear to be true because I want them to be true absolutely something. I, really admire about the scientific community is that when they want something to be true, they almost require more evidence because they're aware of how that bias works but the reason Hank I want there to be life on Venus. So so badly is that it might orient human interest away from Mars Justin till twenty twenty eight, which is when this podcast will be renamed dear, John and Hank in the event that humans have made it to Mars. So I don't WanNa, make life on Venus about me but I think that this is a positive development for me. Yeah I mean it certainly does it does broaden our our planetary interest. Yeah it's so cool. Well, Hang. Thank you for putting with me. Thank you for putting with me John if you want your questions, you can do that at Hank and Jonah Jamile. Dot Com we're off to record. Our Patriot and patron only podcast this week in stuff where we talk about something that tried to make happy this week this podcast is edited by. Joseph. Tuna medicine. It's produced by Roseana Strossen Sheridan Gibson our editorial assistant is to Book Chakravarty our communications. Coordinator is Julia BLUHM The music you're hearing now at the beginning of the podcast despite great GonNa Rolla, and as they say in our hometown don't.

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"Gummed era hank and john of dear. John and hank. It's a podcast. Were two brothers. Answer your questions. Give very and bring you all the news from both mars and afc wimbledon. John knew what do you say about a man who's been national politics for over fifty years who's run for president three times once the youngest senator and is now the oldest president-elect what do you say i guess. He was biden his tongue. Yes pretty good. But i'll admit that my enjoyment of the joke is affected by my like overall enjoyment level of the world which has gone up significantly in the last five days or so. Don't worry john the stress will come back. It has been a weird week. And i think we should just not talk about it. I want to take an unusual approach this week and begin by asking you a question that i find very important and very troubling okay. It's from kylie. who writes. Hi john and hank first guy we thank you for putting my name i beans. Lots of is not why. I'm asking your question. But it certainly probably is working on a subconscious level kylie rates. Why does the twix brand have this obsession with right. Twix versus left twix. I don't think anyone cares confusingly kylie. No one cares about any of the stuff and advertise. The the entire point of an advertisement is to make you care about something you otherwise would not. That's why they exist. So i think it's more to make you notice so you're saying that you didn't notice that there were two twix twix. We'll know what it is literally called a a twix which i assume that is a little like a twin. Yeah but with an excellent ever thought about that but anyway i. I don't actually think the point of those advertisements is to make me like the advertisement now in those advertisements is to remind me that twix exists yes to make it impossible for me to forget that twix exists so that the next time i am in a convenience store which i mean could be twenty twenty three. I will look down and think to myself. Do i wanna watch. Mccall at no. Because i haven't seen a watch mccall it ad in like thirty five years. Do i want to twix. i guess. And then i'll get a twix even though even though hank and this has become important to me in the last two weeks because We've exited the post halloween period when the kids eat a lot of halloween candy. And we've entered the post halloween period. Where john it's a lot of candy. And so i've been thinking about this a lot Because i've been eaten a lot of gandhi and the thing about twix is that somehow it still exists even though it is terrible so there must be something to this advertising campaign because has survived. I like twix just fine. No didn't twix last halloween. Probably we didn't get a lot of halloween. We weren't able to do the halloween thing basis. Either so we still. We still handed out candy to ourselves. We kinda did that. We got a bowl just in case and put it on the porch and i would. It came by. So i got some european patties for myself. Which is my favorite candy. Oh god that's such a bad pick. I mean you could have picked up my favorite candy. I like them a lot. And i live junior. Men's i like mint chocolate. Sure that's fine. My favorite flavors andes andes chocolate mint. Excellent you say that their better picks and maybe there are. But i find it really interesting and i know that there are people who know the answer to this question but like there are so many candy bars. Yeah that have just stuck around which mcconnell. They're not going anywhere. And even like snickers like the sort of like chief chief king of candy bars right is not going but like nobody's coming in and like innovating and like trying a new kind of candy bar. Well they are. They're called power bars or cliff bars right right. They're like no. It can't even give free all right. You want candy bar that's gonna give you energy and protein and snickers over there being like Excuse me what do you think i. I am not a much sugar. In nut distribution service. Yeah it's not emphatic. Five which is i. Guess what they're trying to get get with that but wouldn't you want to pay more for one. That has the same amount of calories but there hasn't been innovation in like candy. Part of candy. That much i agree right. I think it's interesting that companies like twix have to advert brands lake. Twix have to advertise constantly. Snickers does the same thing whereas a brand. Like what she mccall it which is a beloved like for. I'm a fan. Of what mccall. It's and for a brand like which mccullough they never have to advertise because everybody who loves their product is already addicted to it and they they know that they live in a niche. Yeah the thing that. I find interesting. Hank is i believe that. If watch mccall. It started advertising with the same like of constancy that twix advertises. What you may call. It would become the dominant candy brand and twix would go where it deserves to be which is to the graveyard of retired candy brands because tastes got more sophisticated. I think that they could. They could maybe supersede twix but they wouldn't become the dominant candy bar. Snickers deserve that that space and will maintain that space. Sneaker should be the number one candy bar in america and then it should be what you may call it and then it should be three musketeers midnight. Dr as as oh good good good. Save john as long as we're not counting peanut. Mc candy bar no peanut image. They you have an ems are the greatest candy. Peanut eminem's are probably the greatest innovation this is blaming the best food. yeah Well i think the most important innovation in the history of food like i think they're more important than refrigeration or salting for any of that like god. They're good. I haven't had a why their shelf stable. I gotta go get him. You don't need a freezer although if you have one hundred eminem's can get even better. A are good yeah. They're the perfect mix of salty and sweet. They're the perfect mix of protein fat and sugar. They've got lots all three and they taste amazing cells. I got a. They have a great texture. Mix they've got the crazy of the kanye album asset the sink like the delicate sink of the milk chocolate. And then the you know like actual legume of the peanut right which has a great a great crunch to it right. It's like the nineteenth century landscape architects. Being like well you need all three kinds of us. You need the pastora view. The agricultural view in the forest view and appeared eminem contained as universes within it of texture of taste nutrition. Oh i used to get because i've been vocal about my support. Keenum's used to get peanut. Eminem's whenever i do shows people like bring me peanut hems and so that's why i haven't had any lately i remember. We would eat them on the fan home stuck not doing fun things so many times after we would do shows like from two thousand to two thousand twelve because we didn't know schedule our time perfectly the signing part would end at like one fifteen in the morning and we would get back in the car and it would be like everything closed like the wendy's drive in just turned off their lights and we'd be like well at least we have four pounds of peanuts. Yup 'cause it's food aid food. I wonder if they have vitamin c because if they have enough vitamin c to stave off scurvy. Like i think. I might try to go a year. Only eating peanut eminem's that's my new business. Idea is vitamin c peanut minneapolis. I just by ams i spray. I spritz them with vitamins yes and then resell them at a fifty percent markup and you could call the gulf of the only food you'll ever need it's like you know those people in silicon valley who drinks soil int- tech company that. Hey you don't need. you just need nutrition shakes. You need my new product. Mmc's i i'm. I'm going to look much vitamin c as in a peanut eminem. I bet there's some. I bet there's none. Oh yeah there's plenty there's point one milligrams that's all you need is. Yeah i guess it's in the chocolate. It's probably in the chocolate. How much do you need per day. Oh you need a lot. So what you're saying. He'd only need like nine hundred servings of phoenix to get your daily dose of vitamin c. You can get enough vitamin c according to the government. If you eat six hundred fifty serving have now. Every day. I know i know. You're wondering how many homes in a survey twenty-five so all you need to do in order to get enough vitamin c to go about your daily life is sixteen thousand two hundred fifty peanut eminem's per day which is only only fourteen thousand calories. Yeah listen if you're going to take on the peanut eminem only diet you're going to have to have an active lifestyle nobody. Nobody's gonna disagree with you on that. I think i was wrong. I think it's a hundred and forty six thousand calories well in that case very very active lifestyle. Probably that's that's the side the point egg. The real question is if i'm gonna eat enough on eminem's to get my daily dose of vitamin c. How often am. I going to have to eat a peanut eminem. You do it fast enough and the the answer. The answer is that you have to eat six hundred seventy seven. Peanut eminem's per hour which that's doable. Which i believe boils down to like just over ten dem's per minute which is slow like way more than ten pm. But you have to do all your sleep. You have to do it while you're sleeping. I think that's when you hook up the iv probably now. You're just soiling. John glenn him up and drink. You've come all the way back around. I mean at its at its base soil and is just peanut dem's put in a blender and sprinkled with some vitamins. I mean that's yeah there's a multi national company has that as its model and god bless him well dunk because there. Hey by the way we are an podcast now. Wonderful relationship with wnyc over the last two years. They helped so much with helping. Dear hancock john but also helping to launch Sideshow tangents helping the antecedent interviewed. It's been a wonderful amazing relationship We loved working with them. We hope they liked working with us. but we have decided to become an independent podcast again hence hanks feeling absolutely empowered to criticize privately held corporations. Oh god well john. I've got another question before. We get too deep. This one is from salami who asks dear hank and john what would happen if i found dinosaur bones in my backyard. I live in a residential neighborhood in toronto. And i was wondering what would happen if i found a bone and it was a dinosaur bone. Would they just like dig up my whole neighborhood with all my neighbors. Hate me digging for dinosaurs suomi so this depends on where you are a little bet. They're not gonna dig up your neighbors houses. But there are in canada specifically and this province-by-province but in the places in canada where dinosaurs bones are often found the government just all of the dinosaur bones in the country like preemptively so when you find one that has already there's and they can kind of decide what to do once they know about it. This is mostly a problem or a mostly comes up in mining and invite mineral exploration right. So they'll find a dinosaur bone and then they have to call the government. We found one of your bones because it's yours come and get it and then That consort on the process of the mineral exploration. So there's some tension there between the government in the mining companies which is not unusual for there to be some tension between those entities. But there are some really fantastic amazing finds that have been made in that way and that wouldn't necessarily have been sort of a maintained if those rules hadn't existed in america if you find it honest bone in your backyard. It's yours and so you can sell it and that is also been a problem because Very historically or or scientifically significant dinosaur bones have been found and then sold to private and those private honors. Can you know be like you know you can't see my dinosaur bones. Zion estimates you pay miata money or you know you certainly can't have it unless he paid me a lot of money so that can be an issue when we're trying to actually like understand the history of our planet so in canada i gue- like how they do it better but weirdly enough the the bones then can't even leave the province so a museum. Toronto can't display dinosaur bones from alberta which is kinda cool but is also a problem for the for the museum in toronto where they have a lot of dinosaur bones that they'd like to show off from the rest of canada but the the laws don't allow it. Hank do you know where the first dinosaur bone that was understood to be. A dinosaur bone was found and the incredible story behind it. I pretty sure. I've heard this story but it's not jumping to me. I okay well. Like yeah. I'm just gonna distill the story to the most important part. Which is that. it was a megalosaurus bone was known in the scientific literature as scrotum humana mm-hmm because it looks like a giant scrotum and in was widely. Believed to be the fossilized scrotum of a giant as as giants had been described in ancient texts That's amazing oh that's real good. I look i'm seeing it. It's the it's the end of one of a leg bone. Looks like you know how the there's sort of like the knobs on the end for does not look like the leg bone. I mean it looks more like humam than anything else. In the whole entire universe laura writes dear. John and hank my boss asks me. What's shakin bacon. Oh gosh and i don't know how to respond like nothing's shaking but saying that doesn't sound right and saying not much doesn't feel like a grammatically appropriate reply. I want to say i'm good because ultimately i think that's what they're asking me but i'm good definitely isn't shaken. How's your bacon shit war. I mean i mean the answer to what is shaking is not but yeah but saying not much doesn't work because your boss obviously wants for there to be more rhymes in the workplace right and so you gotta be like not much hut ch or something and now you call your bar watch and they deserve they deserve it or just say Seal later alligator. i'm i'm exchanging my labor. I pay ray doing my work jerk. Shit that's gone. Oh what's shakin bacon. Yeah i ask this is. This is the only option. It's clearly what they want. Yeah you have to throw them rhyme back and we've given you options and you can pick. The one you feel is most appropriate. Jonah's next question is from maria who has steer hanke john. I was in a musical. The took place in the eighteen. Hundreds and one of the characters rolled her eyes as reaction to someone else's line. My director called her out and said people didn't roll their eyes back then. Is that true other. It was just a thing that we were born with like laughing if not do you know the history mary. Plus rita equals maria. That's a great name. it is a cool name. Marita i i looked into this with debakey and was shocked to find that it is a new thing. We haven't been rolling. Our is in exasperation that long which shocked me. are we sure. Yes so we rolled are is a bunch of different reasons like i. Rolling has happened for a long time. It was a flirty thing for a while. Sort of like a come hither like i'm on over my is telling you to come this way. You see how it looks like. I'm about to faint dead away. Doesn't that make you interested was also like an ogling thing for a while. Like shakespeare talked about rolling is in terms of like lewd glares. And i don't. I don't know what that would've looked like but that doesn't make any sense unless the person is exceptionally tall. I don't know he talked about. Rolling is literally looking away from them. What what rolling is describes could be a bunch of different things. Oh i guess you could be rolling them from left to right like oh hello over there and over there. Yes or like around in a circle. Yeah like whoo is are google and out so gorge. Yeah wow But apparently the the signal of exasperation wasn't around until the nineteen hundreds and didn't really catch on until like the nineteen eighties really so it's a fairly recent thing. Wow and well. But i will say i will say that your director creating a play. That is not going to be watched by people from the eighteen hundreds. It's going to be watched by people from the year. Twenty twenty and so. We should communicate using the tools that we have in our toolkit. You guys aren't gonna speaking in one thousand nine hundred accents you aren't going to be wearing. No synthetic fibres were. It's okay to have some anachronisms here and there were communicating with our current audience. And they should know that as a person who is a drama professor. This next question comes from luke kuhn steer and on a recent episode of the podcast discussing the possibility of the tesla roadster crashing back to earth and ten million years. Hank mentioned that. The continent of europe or eurasia as i know that heynckes partial to heynckes harsha to the classification of an opinion of all of the ideas that humans have made up the fact that even europeans not know where euro back ends is an indication to me that problem with the classification. Anyway because the tesla roadster won't come back to earth for like ten million years by the time it does come back to earth if it does crash into a cotton it will be crashing into an entirely different continent because the continents are moving around ten million years longtime that got me to think what point the future will we have to update our maps due to the continent. Have we ever done this in the past. How long does it take for substantial drift to occur. I hope your catching my continental drift wouk in ten million years. Things are got it turns out. It's gonna look pretty similar it will. It'll be different enough that we will have to change our maps or maths because some of our current islands. Yeah will not so much be. That's going to be a problem. I far before continental drift will will cause us to change our maps but yet ten million years from now things will look roughly the same as they are now but we do have ways of projecting where the continents are like what directions. They're moving and we know this. And so we can like project into the future fair number of millions of years or tens or hundreds of millions of years. What the earth will look like. It's not exact of course but that's pretty cool that we can do that. And sort of have an idea of what the world will look like and sixty or a hundred million years. If i've learned anything from the last two weeks. It's that predictions. Don't have to be exact for everyone to listen to them. Probably don't include that in the podcast tuna tuna do included and include me talking to you. We're we're an independent podcast. Now we can be better. So do you know when we'll have to change our maps. We change them already. Oh you know we usually think of maps as the two to two dimensional but there are lots of places on earth where we have also three dimensional maps and where the ground changes height a lot in areas that are volcanically active changes height where like plates or smashing into each other it also changes height where erosion is happening so we change our maps already now because of the action of the inside of the earth so all these things result in us needing to change maps even if there was no continental drift just by the action of wind and rain and the ocean and the rivers so yeah we change maps and it is a constant gradual process so cartographers will never be out of business. Well we'll see about that. Cartographers will be in business more as the apocalypse precedes until they are. They don't exist anymore. John x question is also about maps. It comes from david who asks dear brothers green. I was watching a vox video on the arctic. And i couldn't help but notice how much closer candidate is to russia than i had previously thought flat maps of the world. Obviously don't show this so my question is does this mean that a direct a flight from toronto to moscow travel directly over the arctic circle or does it just travel across the atlantic like all the other european flights confused about maps david. So the map. We look at inevitably shapes the world. We understand ourselves to within. This is something. I wrote a lot about my paper towns. Like if you have south be up though world. Looks completely different. It's like so disorienting. It takes you a while to even realize that its earth and if you for for instance don't put europe dead in the middle at the top as if like all is on us then the world starts to look different too so they are very close together but the question is actually a very interesting one. Hank what happens when it makes more sense to fly over the top than it does to fly around. Well here's the shocking thing. john To fly from toronto to moscow. You don't actually fly over the pacific ocean you fly over the atlantic because that's how big russia is yup. Moscow is on the on the sort of european side of russia and so it is somewhat even say in europe going. You're almost there area which is also in. Europe is closer to canada and then china which again is in. Europe is closer to alaska's way austrailia but they're arguably part of europe is not not europe. Talk that which i guess. According to this idea that this large landmasses called the europe would also be in europe in which case you would also fly across the atlantic so sometimes you fly across the pacific. Sometimes you fly across the atlantic but do you ever fly over. The top is the question. Yes people do fly over the top and there's no reason to not fight over the top. It just turns out that there aren't a lot of things up there right so if you're fighting for example what's what's one that would would do this if you're flying from chicago to mumbai india you fly it what is known as santa's shortcut also known as the polar route is that airspace was first opened up in nineteen eighty eight and restrictions. Were relaxed further in twenty eleven. So it does happen. And i'm looking at this chicago to mumbai flight and there's also a chicago to delhi flight and they both appear to go not like over the north pole itself but like. Yeah pretty dang close. Yeah also heathrow to fiji so can the they call it a shortcut. You know shortcut. John this next question's from rod who asks i wanna make sure because i rod has confused me and now i am unsure. Okay john when americans say they put cream in their coffee. What do they mean. Surely it is not actual cream. Which in the uk is very heavy and rich. Is it really cream fishing rod. It's right yeah what what. What else would it be. We don't put like a ton of it in no. That's that's the key rod. The reason cream works so well as that you need a tiny amount of it now. There are some people who like put in a tremendous amount of cream into their coffee. And i i agree with you that that gets a little rich for my tastes and we do have all of the regular coffee drinks with milk. Your cappuccinos your law as your etc says But a lot of people they like black coffee and then just a little bit a little touch cream. Yes and how do you drink your coffee. with a little sugar. I don't usually do creamer or milk But like a can. I just think it makes. It tastes a little less like coffee and the coffee flavor. Well that's and that's definitely like a sign of being middle-age. Right who i think like i think as you get older you tend to like black coffee a little bit more But yeah rod. I recommend trying it just put a tiny little bit of that delicious heavy cream into your coffee and see if you like it. If you don't no worries you can just drink it black. We i think that is. I think that's how we do it. Mostly these days to be honest with you rod. We do it with like Half soy half allman. no no. yeah. We love our milk. It's really good though. Yeah this next question comes from audrey who asks to your john except for me because i only drink decaf. I'm very excited for john's new book. The anthropology and reviewed. And i know that all the books in the first printing will be signed but i usually get books from my local bookstore when new books come out. We'll copies be signed. If i get it right when it comes out even if i get it from my local bookstore like the maiden not the plant audrey yes oh audrey the plant from ours shop horrors joke. That's good yes. Audrey so the whole strategy behind signing the entire first printing of the book instead of trying to somehow only sign certain preorders. Is that every single copy. That initially goes into every single bookstore will be signed at least in the us and probably canada so your local bookstore will if they have the infamous interview book. Which i hope they will will have signed copies been fact they won't have signed copies at least at first because the idea is that is design enough to make sure that every copy that goes into every bookstore is autographed. So you should feel free to wait and or you can pre-order it from your local independent bookstore as well because it hasn't come out for a long time like it doesn't come out until may some bookstores aren't taking preorders yet but Yeah you'll be able to buy when when it does come out and the world will look. I don't know what it will look like in may different probably but i'm really excited for the anthropology and reviewed book. It's weird and a little nervous making to be publishing a book of nonfiction. I don't feel like as qualified to do it for some reason. But i have loved writing the answer interviewed and i hope that people respond well to the book. Which reminds me actually. The today's podcast is brought to you by the anthroposophic reviewed book coming to bookstores everywhere. May eighteenth twenty twenty one if you live in the us and canada. You're going to have a darn hard time. Finding an unsigned copy of it. On this podcast is also brought to you by ammon sees. They're just peanut eminem's with a little bit of vitamin c spray. It on 'em so you don't have to one hundred and forty thousand calories to knock it scurvy and today's podcast brought to you by scrotum humanum rotem humanum. It was actually dinosaur. I'm here all week. And also this podcast is brought to you by santa shortcut. Santa shortcut either to fiji and just eighteen hours. Some shortcut santa. rei before we get to the all important news from mars and afc wimbledon. We need to talk about acorns. We've gotten almost as many emails. About acorns as acorns have fallen in indiana. This fall which is really saying something. Because as i have learned from your many emails this is a mass shooting year for our local oak trees. So laura explain this quite cynically writing dear john. I'm sure a bunch of people have already written about this. Thank you for acknowledging that were a. You're correct but i'm going to do it anyway because plants are amazing. I'm guessing the reason you have so many acorns this year is that it's a massing your every few years. All the oak trees in an area coordinate with one another to produce a ridiculous amount of acorns way more than the squirrels are able to eat so that the trees will have a better chance of reproducing than the next couple of years. The trees will go back to normal production and the squirrels will get most of the nuts. This also means that the squirrels have a really good year during mass shooting and then populations go down until the next master year and this is one of the things about masking. That kind of blew my mind when i read more about at hank. Which is that a. We don't really know what's causing this exactly Be it seems like large. Groups of oak trees are able to communicate and coordinate because there's no other explanation for the varying distance between shooting years here and see They seem to do this. Maybe possibly at least in part to control the population of aw ammos. Eat lots of acorns. They're like we can't. We can't have the same amount of acorns every year. 'cause then they'll all get eaten so we have to have some big years little years so that they can't eat all of them in the big years and then the population goes down in the little years right but it would be easier to understand if everybody if the trees were like. Yeah so every three years. We laid on a lot of acorns and then we go two years but they don't they don't do that. It's it's It's much weirder and potentially more mind-blowing than that. So that is why they are a good jillian acorns in indianapolis right now and it is also it also means that the oak trees are talking to each other Which sarah reminded me is basically the plot of her favorite novel of this year. Richard powers book the over story. So i'll be reading. That next. And i will report back. Trees are amazing. They are evidence that the rule of life is not as we were told as children. That only the strong survive and you must only compete to survive. They are evidence of the fact. That collaboration and cooperation is also essential to any form of life surviving cool and the side effect is that you have to definitely wear shoes outside all the time. Oh yeah no. You can't even. You can't even walk five feet without stepping on two or three acorns. What's the news from. Mars this week hank well and mars news. Scientists have been studying some asteroids near mars and they found one that seems to resemble the moon the asteroid they're studying called the trojan asteroids They follow the same path of planet does in its orbit around the sun but then they sort of like are a set distance behind or in front of the planet. So there's this sort of like gravitationally stable points that they can chill out in this sort of orbit. The sun ra along with the planet. We know that planets like jupiter have thousands of these asteroids. Because it's very big and so those pockets are really big and collect a lot of asteroids in them but we didn't know about as many of these around terrestrial planets if earth has trojan asteroids. We still have a hard time spotting them because their location is close to the sun and it's difficult to look at them with a telescope but mars seems to have trojan asteroids We definitely have found them. So a team of astronomers used a tool called the x. Shooter from the european southern observatory is very large telescope in chile to study set of trojan asteroids. And see what they are made of and they studied how sunlight bounced off them to figure out what they're composed of and found. What are the asteroids was different from the other ones and it was. It was unique among this set of asteroids looked quite a bit like the moon. Why it looks like the moon is unknown. There are a couple of guesses. It might be a piece of the moon which does happen. Obviously the moon was hit has been hit by a lot of impact is and so that throws little bits off it could just be a normal asteroid that just looks like the moon and ended up that way through a process of solar radiation and space space weathering that created like a moon lake patina on the outside of the asteroid sort of like how all river rocks and up like sort of river rocky if you give them enough time and then also changed that. It's actually a piece of mars crossed that ended up in orbit somehow ended up looking like the moon. So we're not sure but there is a weird asteroid around mars that we have discovered and we only know it's weird because it isn't like the rest of them that we studied but it may actually be a piece of the moon over there. Let's kind of lovely. Yeah i like the idea of sharing our moon with mars little bit. It's got a little bit of moon. Yeah well the news from afc. Wimbledon is an equal parts. Great and terrible afc. Wimbledon played their first game. Back at plough lane. It was an extremely emotional day. There was a wonderful livestream for an hour. Before kickoff where wimbledon fans former wimbledon players all were able to together in the magic of that moment even though we couldn't be there together in real life and then wimbledon took the field against a very good doncaster rovers side and Went into the lead and we all know that in this fragile fragile world nothing is more fragile than wimbledon with a one nil lead and so sure enough Don gosden equalised immediately. We then went into a two one lead. And i thought to myself are these less. No no doncaster. Equal the game ended to well. That's not terrible. It's not the and draws all season. you'll be great. well just keep getting draws. Yeah at this point. I would be fine withdrawing the rest of our games. I mean it wouldn't be that fun but it would be a heck of a story that was great and it was just. I mean it was just magical to see plough lane and to see the players. They're the pitch looks amazing. The stands look great and to know that we built that place and we built it. You know taking out loans from ourselves. Basically i mean eh. The stadium was built primarily via a bond that the fans raised themselves and the club will pay us back. And it's just a wonderful day. And i felt so grateful to everybody who worked so hard for almost thirty years to make that moment possible. And who never gave up on their dream at such testament. I think to what can happen when a community holds onto hope and sticks together and then three days later Afc wimbledon released a statement saying that quote some players and staff have tested positive for covid nineteen. And some is a is a very Yeah it's a big adjective in that in that sentence. I'm still really hopeful. That we can play the rest of the season. And it would be really heartbreaking if we couldn't but obviously the safety of the community has to come first and so we'll see obviously well that that is awful and i don't know Obviously don't know what it what it means. I'm sure that it's nei-neither the kind of thing that will continue to happen the but I also know that we'll get through this. We will and it is really encouraging to see a good response from a vaccine candidate At least from initial results. It's really really encouraging. Yeah we'll get through this. Regardless this will end pandemics end. They always end. Many of them have ended before. But if we can speed the rate at which we get through this that would be a wonderful well hang. Thank you for putting with me and thanks to everybody for listening. We really appreciate you. Sending in your questions to hank and john. G mail dot com. And just so glad that you're here with us. Yeah thank you. This podcast is edited by joseph tournament. 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