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"colonel vitamin" Discussed on The Daily Beans
"Own his right. I mean like there was no other reason why he wouldn't have gotten this promotion and I'm assuming that also came with a better pay better Maybe better benefits I'm not sure how it works, but it just like fucking with someone's livelihood, because they don't like you or you don't like them is just unforgivable. Yeah, I know a little bit about it. That that's, that's what's going on with. Should be Colonel Vitamin but you know we know he has retired. Yeah, and let's hope both of in both cases you get very lucrative book deals. So. We. Can All make make up for that bad behavior by the government? You're just read a fascinating story exactly exactly. All right well. Thanks for joining me for. One good and five yucky headlines I really appreciate. Listen of five is not so bad. Okay, starting off my thirty second year with just a bit of good news, not not in India Times you're right. You're right. I'll take one. Over none so I, appreciate you coming on. Tell everybody whether you can find you, amy. You can find me at on Instagram at on instagram. My handle is at amy, Caro-, and on twitter the same. M. E. E. C. A.. R. E. R. O.. Thanks for having me awesome. Of course and we'll see you next Friday. You're going to be here every Friday for now and I'm really excited about it. Getting everybody and tell him. excited. Tell your friends. Do you know who else is on the show today? WHO YOU'RE GONNA love it. It's a former assistant director of the FBI for Counterintelligence Frankfurt Greasy will be joining me later. I FOOLED AG and Daily Bees into giving me this week the job. Dude you are incredible and I really appreciate your commentary. Thank you so much A. We'll be right back after this quick break. With said former acting director of the FBI. For counterintelligence, no excuse me not acting assistant director of the FBI for counterintelligence, frank for Guzzi right after this stay with us. Thanks again, Amy, thank you. Hey, everybody, it's A. Like most of you, I've been social distancing working from home, reducing unnecessary trips.
"colonel vitamin" Discussed on The Beat with Ari Melber
"Hillary Clinton. She's crooked folks he's crooked as three dollar bill locker up is right. It's just awfully good. That someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our country. Because you'd be in jail. Who specifically are you accusing of treason? If you look at Komi if you look at McCabe if you look at probably people people higher than that if they were honest about it that sort of major investigation into the vice joined tonight by Melissa Marie a law professor at Nyu and former federal prosecutor. Kirshner who was also inside the Roger Stone courtroom today. Thanks to both of you for joining me tonight. Thank you are Glenn. When you view these pardons do you view them As potentially corrupt or an abuse of power. Or do you see them as the president's lawful and proper discretion he has the right to issue these pardons but it is clearly in my opinion abusive power Ari. You know we can call today pardoned Palooza but it it just reinforces that the president really believes that he has the right to weaponize the powers of his office to punish his enemies and to sort of bestow benefits on his friends. And you know if you let the president talk long enough. He's GonNa tell you what he's really thinking. What's really motivating? Because I heard him talking about the blagojevich pardon and he ultimately got around to saying well. You know you know who the prosecutors were in that case it was Patrick Fitzgerald and and you know what he's friends with Komi he's telling you right there that what he was doing was weaponized. Pardon as a way misguided way to punish his enemy Komi and by EXTENSION COMBS FRIEND PATRICK FITZGERALD. And you know it reminded me of when he fired. Lieutenant Lieutenant Colonel Vitamin for speaking the truth about him and then gratuitously punished his brother. I mean if that's not trump sending the signal that I will punish you. I will punish your friends. I will punish your family in any way that I have at my disposal including the pardon power. I don't know what is Melissa. Well let's be clear. Presidents use executive clemency for lots of different reasons often to send policy message. President Barack Obama Exhibited Clemency Two Thousand Times. Just a little bit under two thousand times during his presidency but all to make the point that he thought that low level nonviolent drug offenses were a problem and so most of the people who benefited from his clemency were people who'd been convicted of these drug charges the precedent today's also sending a message. But this is a very different message than one about legislative policy on drug charges. This is a broader question about weaponising all of the powers vested in the president article too for his own political gain. When you put it like that. It almost sounds like you're minimizing it. Because I don't think there is a policy here all personal right. I don't think I mean the personal can be political and I don't think minimizing it at all. This is awesome power it is constitutional power vested in the Office of the president by Article. Two and presidents have the option to wielded as they choose some have chosen to use it to make a stand about legislative action that they would like to see Congress do but Congress has overtaken it and others are using it for other reasons like we saw Gerald Ford Pardon Richard Nixon before he was even convicted in order to make a stand about national unity. And we're seeing the president today using that power to make a stand about preserving his own skin. These are good idea pardons well. They're not my partners to issue but I will say it is surprising and if you look at the individuals who were pardoned eight largely men. He's actually only pardoned one woman in his entire term as president lots of commutations but mostly individuals who have been convicted of serious offenses against the public. Trust that's concerning. You mentioned the public trust. I mean Glenn that's what really jumps out. I think that the interest of who is also in our wild world. A celebrity apprentice contestant is someone who the president was musing about in the middle of the Ukraine plot as well public officials should be able to do whatever they want and so in that context of whatever as Melissa says it may be driving a message to the country. What is the message that public officials should get away with what accountability of any should there be for them? Take a look at what we learned about. Quid pro quo bribery in the initial case. Here of the State of Illinois was engaged in behavior in an attempt quid pro quo to trade a US Senate seat for something about. He didn't do anything. Because it just agree with Mr Lang's contention that offering something of value since there's no I know. Of course I don't disagree. With Mr Lanes contention offering.
"colonel vitamin" Discussed on The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer
"And that really should alarm the American people the Attorney General William Bar said you gotta take everything that comes out of Ukraine with a huge grain of salt. Because so much disinformation this information is there so he says they have a process over there at the Justice Department to review any of these things before they move on what we're seeing here though wolf is as as he called an intake process in the field. That's what he called it. That's not the regular kind of acceptance of tips or information it is a pipeline and a back channel for Rudy Giuliani. What should bar do if Rudy Giuliani? The former mayor of New York a former. US Attorney the Southern District of New York. Says I've got information I'd like to share with you. What should do you should do? What Lindsey Graham suggested and direct rudy? Giuliani to intelligence officials. Lindsey Graham said that he should go to the intelligence committee but not use it in effect to establish a special pipeline for Rudy Giuliani to create this kind of opposition research for the benefit of the president the deputy director of the FBI wooden say whether there's some sort of open investigation into the Biden's That's protocol but do you accept that when when he refused to say whether or not. There's any open investigation his job and I had that responsibility when I was a federal law enforcement prosecutor as United States turned in Connecticut is to neither confirm nor deny but in this instance. I think that it's pretty clear that the reports about lawbreaking by the Biden's have been completely debunked and discredited. And he should say talk. You expect more firings to come from the president now. We saw what happened Friday. Night With Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vitamin Gordon Sunland the US ambassador to the EU expect Beck more individuals to be fired. This president's pretty unpredictable in his personal vengeance. which is what happened to lieutenant colonel? Benjamin and his brother contended colonel. Women came forward in response to a congressional subpoena to tell the truth. He's a decorated combat veteran and he assured his father if you remember in that movie moment when he testified we're not in the Soviet Union. Dad Right matters here truth matters here but he was escorted in a highly humiliating way and really disgusting. You're one of his friends l'ancienne today he wasn't even say goodbye to his friends his colleagues that he had been working Over the National Security Council with Chuck Schumer the Democratic leader in the Senate minority leaders calling on all federal inspectors general to investigate retaliation allegation against witnesses. Come before Congress who have been subpoenaed and then testify truthfully You think that's a good idea. I think the inspector generals should investigate any any and every report of retaliation or revenge. which clearly was what happened when the president fired ineffective attending Colonel Vitamin or transferred transferred him in that way but equally important we need to strengthen the laws that protect whistleblowers and the kind of dedicated patriots who come forward with truth and speak it to power in the way? We kind of colonel women you heard. What senator Lindsey Graham? Your Republican colleague suggested these the chairman of the Judiciary Committee accusing Vitamin and other various officials at the CIA the FBI the Justice Department of having this vendetta going after the president of the United States. So what do you you think there's no vendetta here. The attempt to link him to the deep state or to some kind of conspiracy theories absolutely absurd. And I think that these kinds of theories linking patriots like Colonel Vitamin A disservice to the the Patriots who come forward but also to the brave public servants who work every day and those intelligence agency put their lives on the line all across the globe so that we it can be safer and I believe by the way that there needs to be reform of the Pfizer. Court I advocated it under President Obama because there need to be checks imbalances. So it's not as if the film is totally flawless or perfect but we need to approach it with the kind of respect for truth that Colonel Kinman demonstrators. And let's not forget. Those ten Colonel Venda decorated Iraq war veteran who was wounded in Iraq still has some shrapnel in his body for that. Thanks very much senator. Senator Blumenthal of Connecticut up next the knives come out is the Democratic presidential candidates stumped votes. Just ahead of tomorrow's New Hampshire primary and get this. There's a new national poll. That shows a very dramatic shakeup in the Democratic race. We'll discuss all the developments with the chairman of the Democratic Party. There seem Tom Perez. He studied by. How do you judge someone not by what they say by what they do? We're a nation of doers. What's Mike Bloomberg about doing things? A middle class kid worked his way through college and Entrepreneur Bloomberg built a global news and information business business from scratch mayor of a diverse progressive sitting Mike Bloomberg rebuilt after nine eleven creating nearly five hundred thousand jobs improving health care and public school so now he's running for president and Mike's the change. We need from chaos to steady leadership from lies to someone who believes in facts and data from divisiveness to someone who builds teams nurtures good ideas and hold himself accountable for results. My Bluebird knows how to leave to build to deliver favor to do. He'll win unite this country. Mike will get things done. I'm Mike Bloomberg candidate for president. And I approve this message because we need you to deliver on the promise of the American Dream Paid for by Mike Bloomberg Twenty Twenty on the eve of New Hampshire's first-in-the-nation presidential primary. Hey Mary new. Nationwide poll shows that dramatic shakeup in the Democratic presidential race. Let's go to our political director. David challenges on the ground for US in Manchester David. This this is one poll but it does suggest that there's been some major momentum shift in the race it is one poll. I'll be eager to see other national. Polls that come Mount Wolf but there's a new sheriff in town nationally in this race and it's Bernie Sanders The Guy who performed quite well in Iowa last week who may be on the precipice. epistle victory here in New Hampshire. Take a look at the numbers. And you'll see he's at a twenty five percent in this poll. Joe Biden is no longer according to this poll. The National Front runner in this race and this is fascinating. Look who's in third place. It's Michael Bloomberg at fifteen percent This is what three hundred and fifty fifty million dollars of advertising gets you. It gets you from going to zero in November when he gets in to fifteen percent now. This is his second pole to qualify for that Nevada debate stage next week. Perhaps we'll have a couple more and perhaps Michael Bloomberg will be joining the debate stage. Well we're going to talk about that with the chairman of the DNC shortly in another part of this poll is eye-catching that evolves support among African American voters. What are you seeing Wolf as you know? There is no path for anyone to the Democratic nomination without substantial support from African Americans. It is the very base of the Democratic Party and take a look. Joe Biden has really taken a dive here just a month ago in January in this poll among African Americans he was up at like forty nine nine forty seven percent if you will that has been sliced nearly in half and it is because of Michael Bloomberg's appeal among African Americans. Take a look at these numbers. He's now at twenty two percent. Michael Bloomberg is among African Americans. Joe Biden went from forty nine to twenty seven percent. So that's why you see Michael Bloomberg overall sitting at fifteen percent nationally because he is carving a huge slice of Joe Biden's base of support with African Americans into his own camp. This is this one poll and again in ease one poll. Let's see other polls and see if this is confirmed specially after we get results in New Hampshire here tomorrow night but if this is indicative of the shape of the race this race is entirely reshuffled the Quinnipiac University poll is respected indeed. But you're absolutely right. Let's see what's up other polls are showing David Chalian in New Hampshire for us. Thank you joining us now. Here in the Situation Room Democratic National Committee chairman. Tom Perez. Thanks so much control your time. Of course we're both from Buffalo New York bills allies. Tom Polls especially the fact that Bloomberg is is doing as well as well. I think it's important to remember that this is a marathon. It's not a sprint We have Had One primary one caucus forty one delegates allocated located We will continue to see a lot of activity. What excites me? Is that the energy out there. Across America's very real people understand the need to defeat Donald Trump. They're organizing everywhere. I think we have a deep bench of candidates and what everybody understands is at the end of the day.
"colonel vitamin" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"Attorney Attorney and host of the on topic podcast. Please welcome back Renato Mariotti Renato. Welcome back molar. She wrote thank you good to be on the show how are you. We haven't spoken in. It feels like forever but I think it was not that long ago. No doubt no. I'll tell you in today's world a week or two can just I feel like an entire lifetime so I been busy practicing law and doing my own podcast. And and all sorts of other things are definitely keeping busy good and if you have the if our listeners have not listened to the topic podcasts you really should check that out. It's it's really really very informative and we really appreciate appreciate all the work that you're doing on that. So thank you for that and I wanted to have The reason I have you here today as I wanted to legal expert To Talk to us about the bombshell news. That's come out over the weekend about the removal of Lieutenant Colonel Vitamin and his brother From the National Security Council so and then of course Gordon Somboon from as ambassador of the E U I think they just dissolve that position has trump actually broken any laws here. Let's pretend he's not above the law as he actually broken any laws here. You have a great question you know it obviously stinks to high heaven. Which is why my initial the actions tweet out that this looks a lot like witness Retaliation which it is. I think you know we saw Donald Trump junior tweeted out essentially that You know I think he said something makeshift smoked out everyone. That trump needed to fire that sort of thing. So I think it's clear that the intent of this is to retaliate against people. The WHO are witnesses against trump and I also think that the another part of the intent is essentially to discourage other people coming forward in the future so is it. Does it break the law. Well let's start on the criminal side of things because that's what I think. People are really focused on. Is this sort of witness tampering. So one problem problem with any kind of bringing kind of criminal claim for for this being a good form of witness tampering is that it's not clear that an impeachment Eastman proceeding is a quote legal. You know is it a legal proceeding for purposes of any of the staff federal statute so in other words. You know with clear that a let's say a you know a court case would be a grand jury investigation would be but you know is impeachment and impeachment. In Kore- I is it A is proceeding for purposes of the statute. I don't you know that is an open question. No one knows for sure but let's just assume that it is another problem is of course all the testimony already occurred in other words the proceedings. Over whatever it is you you know the fee Peterman proceedings over. And it's clear that he's not trying to influence any future testimony in that proceeding right. So that's why. I'm sure that his advice from his lawyers was to wait until the impeachment was done to do it Because now the AL it will be one thing if in the middle of impeachment. Corey fired Someone you know you're just missed on land or or demoted Vin meant Or transfer vitamin HE KENO cheap purposely waited until after You know it was over To do that so I think the argument here you know really would be the You know that he's trying to you. Know essentially her witnesses. You know her. He's trying to discourage witnesses from coming forward. It's some future wrongdoing or some you know or or something like that but of course we don't know what that would be future proceeding would be. It's very It's very the Speculative so I don't I don't see this as something that would be a prosecutor and actually charged as a practical matter. I mean do so. I think that there might be a clever person out there. Who could try to shoehorn it into something? I guess I I. It doesn't appear like it's obviously wanted to me in another other issue. I should just mention Vin. Men didn't lose his job he's just moved to a new post within the army and Thon Linden Ambassador and they're sort of routinely team we you know they serve at the pleasure of the president and so forth so it's it's not clear It's not clear to me You know wh you know whether whether or not there's any I it doesn't seem to me I would say that there's any criminal case now on the civil side It's possible I don't see some heavy any kind of claim it's possible that Vin might claim that he was That he was to adverse action was taken against him for unemployment matter for some sort of improper reason. But you know I. I'm not one thing. I'm not an expert. In terms of armies CODA justice. Does he have a civil claim. Claimed he may but I don't think you know it's not clear what the impact would be in his career. What damages would be to him? and Asi- aside from that. I I mean whether or not this deepen technically a demotion or an adverse action. Anyway he was set to leave the NFC and six month anyway. Yeah and truth be told Generally when you're doing a civil suit for an adverse action the remedy is to get your job back and is that really attendance. Tenable situation for Vin. My I would be more like his brother. Probably has a really solid claim. You know civilly speaking thing because what his what does his brother have to do with it. and then so you're thinking son's going to sue for his million dollars back. Yeah right I I yeah I don't. I don't think that someone is that he writes that brother to it's sort of like you know the president is not firing you for. It's not like you. So you'd being in the these guys aren't you know cer- Vin men and his brother aren't whistle blowers for purposes of any statute or regulation Russian They're you know Vin Minute somebody who came forward once there was already an inquiry. His brother of course is just totally unrelated to that you know typically speaking Certainly employers can fire people for all in many in most states or any reason whatsoever. Certainly my state you know I. I can't answer. I don't know enough about the fact of the situation or all. The potential applicable laws did know for sure whether they have a civil claim But I it's there's no obvious. Obvious claim the doubter. And now what about this have been men sunland environments brother aside Lieutenant Colonel Brother Side I mean we because we know trump has a long history of firing those who oppose him going back to Comi and Jim Baker and Andy McCabe what we call it. The Komi Five Ben Tae there were a ton of people at the FBI who were investigating in trump Russia. Who got moved or put in? HR set behind a plant somewhere But now there's reporting that trump got his eyes on firing the Inspector General Enroll Atkinson. And that's I think maybe of greater concern than these sort of other removes. What do you what do you make of that? I mean the the concern. I'm concerned about all of them. Concern with the other moves. I agree with you that the the other moves are essentially him sending a message each to future people. Anybody opposes me. There's consequences right now. Here is essentially all the All the Inspector General Did was follow the law. Aw and protect the whistle blower who came forward. And you know this is. He's he's somebody who's not any sort of partisan or anything like that he wasn't you know going out of his way to her trump. He was just doing what his duty was. And essentially. What trump's thing is you if you protect whistleblower? I'm going to take get action against you and I want people in there who aren't gonNA protect whistleblowers. I mean that is in fact the message. So the Senate Certainly should have something to say about that if he ever wants to if he does that it wants to replace that position but I once again I don't I don't see a way in which doing that You know his violate the lar- statue in other words. The unstated message may be that he wants people who are loyal to him or that he wants people to Who Don't enforce the law? I that would be an abuse of power. But we've we've seen I mean I think trump could do pretty much anything and removed from office for abusing his power. So I don't Wanna I don't like to give people false hope that something's going to happen to trump affects gate. And I don't WanNa do that. Yeah what has happened before so why it would happen. But there's last year of his presidency. I'm not sure why anyone would would think that I mean it's it's it's certainly justifies a little bit of outrage and it's completely corrupt erupt and totally horrible but again if something is going to happen or not I'm with you probably not I. Fear that our only recourse here is to talk about it. Widely shine shined light on it. Vote in November. But if we get the White House and the Senate hold the House or do you think that maybe any of these laws ause could be changed to maybe strengthen them do you see that as a as something that's feasible without actually because you know sometimes laws can go overboard. I do you see that as something that could. That's that's feasible. Yeah I certainly. Certainly you could strengthen for example protections for people who are witnesses against abuses in the executive branch beat you know you could certainly enhance whistleblower protections sections you know clearly there's inadequacies to the whistle blower statute which is which Republicans Grandpa in others have exploited Donald trump junior and so forth of exploited. But but also you know there are also a new statute that there could be enacted. I mean one lawmaker. It asked my advice about a statute that would criminalize. It is seeking seeking foreign. Help In you know foreign an influence or interference election more broadly. You know it's possible. There's there's issues there's constitutional issues. Crafty hits you like that but it's possible to come up with debt you today. Could you make it more difficult to very least for for people to June. Gauging that sort of activity because it's kind of just the polar opposite of what Muller Dead When Muller refused to come out and say trump committed a crime because muller was afraid of tainting future prosecutions but here we have a president who has absolutely no fear of tainting future witnesses. That might come forward against him so where we a little too. A lot of people say Muller was a little too conservative about that but again you oh no. It's it's how loyal you are to the rule of law and what you're willing to do and not do in order to corrupt future witnesses or prosecutions. Yeah I have to say our legal system is not really set up to deal with a president coo is is essentially going to maximally do whatever possible to increase his own personal power to weaken institutions that could potentially serve as a check on him and I think the reality is the all of us now between now and November. Have to do whatever we can to organize into mobilize and get votes out. Because the legal system there's just not equipped to handle that and speaking of weakening institutions. Before I let you go I was wondering what you thought about. Bill bars new rule that any investigation by the department the Justice into a presidential or vice presidential candidate for president must submit that in writing to him and get express written consent from Bill Bar in order to go forward. Does that actually. Isn't that already a rule. Why would he need to come out and say say this? Well I don't it's it's not exactly a rural It is certainly the practice of the Justice Department. I think look as a practical matter. Any sort of investigation that would That would touch on. The candidacy of a candidate for president would go Ordinarily through the attorney the Attorney General would be aware of that that In real time they would be. You know they're certainly. They would go up the chain of command at the Justice Department. It obviously a concern because trump is shown that he is going going to do it again..
"colonel vitamin" Discussed on NPR News Now
"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Jeanine herbst lieutenant. Colonel Alexander van men who testified against President Trump and the impeachment hearings was escorted escorted today out of the White House where he served on the National Security Council as NPR's Franco Ordonio reports. Vinson is being pushed out two days after trump's acquittal by the Senate Lieutenant Lieutenant Colonel Vitamin was among a group of US officials in the White House who listened in on the July twenty fifth call with Ukraine President Vladimir Alinsky Vin men testified that trump press Alinsky to open an investigation of a political rival. Then men is a Ukrainian immigrant and decorated Iraq. War veteran trump trump has targeted him calling him a never-trumper witness David pressman vitamins. Attorney said telling. The truth cost vitamin his job in in career pressman added in a statement vitamin followed orders. He obeyed his oath and he served his country and for that the president exacted revenge Franko or Donas. NPR news the Whitehouse. Meanwhile pressman says Vin mint twin brother. Lieutenant Colonel You again even been a senior lawyer and ethics official show at the National Security Council also a decorated Iraq. War Vet was also escorted off the grounds of the White House today. Suddenly and with no explanation ahead of tonight's night's Democratic presidential debate in New Hampshire the Biden campaign is promising that he will go after two of his leading rivals. And here's Domenico Montanaro has more senior Biden. Haydn campaign officials acknowledged that the former vice president quote took his lumps with a disappointing fourth place. Finish in Iowa but the campaign is urging voters and the media to judge the the first four states as a whole particularly given Biden strength with voters of color. And how White Iowa and New Hampshire but Iowa winners Bernie Sanders and Pete Buddha. The judge are seen as real threats to the nomination for Biden so much so expect him tonight to go after sanders for wearing a democratic socialist label and Buddha judge edge for his relative inexperience to Medical Montenero. NPR News Washington administration than New York Governor. Andrew Cuomo says his state will sue the trump administration administration over it. Blocking New Yorkers from taking part in the trusted traveler program the Department of Homeland Security made the move after New York blocked immigration officials access to state motor vehicle records while says it's retaliation for the state allowing immigrants in the US illegally to get driver's licenses. We believe undocumented. People in the state should be allowed to have a driver's license. We want them licensed. We want from public safety point of view. We WanNa know that the drivers who are on our roads are licensed the DA just action means an estimated one hundred seventy five thousand New Yorkers and thirty thousand commercial truck. Drivers will no longer be allowed to enroll or renew their membership in certain federal programs. Rams that ease the process for people travelling internationally to get through security checks you're listening to. NPR.
"colonel vitamin" Discussed on The Report
"We can shrug it off and say we were making light or a joke. But that was in a hearing in the United it States House of Representatives discussing the removal of the president of the United States from office. There are very few things if any that can be as grave and as serious. Let's stick with the evidence. Let's talk about the facts and the evidence in this case the most important piece of evidence we have in the case and before you is the one that we began with. Nearly four months ago the actual transcript transcript of the July twenty five twenty nine thousand nine hundred telephone call. Between President Trump in presidents alinsky though real transcript. If that were the only evidence we had it would be enough to show that the Democrats entire theory is completely unfounded but the transcript is far from the only evidence demonstrating the president. Did nothing wrong once you sweep away day. All of the bluster and Innuendo the selective leaks the closed door examinations of the Democrats Handpicked witnesses the staged public hearings. What we're left with our six key facts that have not and the end will not change I? The transcript shows that the president did not condition either security assistance distance or a meeting on anything. The paused security assistance funds aren't even mentioned on the call. Second Presidents Alinsky and other Ukrainian officials have repeatedly said that there was no quid pro quo and no pressure on them. To review you anything. Third Presidents Alinsky and high ranking Ukrainian officials. Did Not even know did not even know the security assistance was paused until the end of August over a month after the July twenty five call forth not a single witness testified that the president himself said that there was any connection between any investigations and security assistance a presidential meeting or anything else. V The security assistance flowed on September eleven and presidential meeting took place on September twenty five without the Ukrainian government announcing any investigation. It's finally the Democrats blind drive to impeach the president. It does not and cannot change the fact as attested to by the Democrats own witnesses. The president trump has been a better friend and stronger supporter of Ukraine rain than his predecessor. Those are the facts we plan to address some of them today and some of them next week each one of these six facts standing alone is enough to sink the Democrats case combined. They established what we've known since the beginning. The president did absolutely nothing wrong. The Democrats allegation at the president engaged in a quid pro quo is unfounded bounded and contrary to the facts the truth is simple in its right before our eyes. The president was at all times acting in our national interest and pursuant to his oath of office but before I dive in and speak further about the facts. Let me mention something that my colleagues will will discuss in greater detail. The facts that I'm about to discuss today are the Democrats facts. This is important because the house most managers spoke to you for a very long time over twenty one hours and have repeatedly claimed to you that their cases in their evidence is is overwhelming and uncontested. It's not I'm going to share a number of facts with you this morning that the house managers didn't share with you during more than twenty one hours. I'll ask you as Mr Baloney already mentioned that when you hear me say something that the house managers. I didn't present to you. Ask yourself why didn't they tell me that. Is that something I would have liked to have known. Why am I hearing it for the first time from the president's lawyers it's not because they didn't have enough time that's for sure? They only showed you a very selective part of the record their record and they remember this. They have the very heavy burden of proof before you. The president is forced to mount a defense in this chamber against a record that the Democrats developed the record that we have to go on today is based entirely uh on House Democratic facts pre cleared and a break in a basement bunker not mostly entirely yet even those facts absolutely exonerate the president. Let's start with the transcript. The president did not link security assistance to any investigations on July twenty five call step back on July twenty five president trump called presidents Linski. This was their second phone call. Both both were congratulatory on April twenty. First president trump called to congratulate presidents alinsky on winning the presidential election on July twenty five. The president called all because Presidents Alinskyites party had just won a large number of seats in parliament on September. Twenty four before Speaker Pelosi. He had any idea what president trump and presidents Alinsky actually said on July twenty five call. She called for an impeachment inquiry into president trump in the interest of full transparency and to show that he had done nothing wrong. President trump took the unprecedented unprecedented step of of declassifying. The call transcript so that the American people could see for themselves. Exactly what the two presidents discussed. So what the president trump say the president's Kalinski on the July twenty five call. President trump raised two issues. I'm going to be speaking about those two issues. A fair amount this morning there. The two issues the Go-to the core of how president trump approaches foreign aid when it comes to sending US tax payer money overseas. The president hazardous focused on burden-sharing and corruption. I the president rightly had real concerns about whether European in other countries were contributing their fair share to ensuring Ukraine security second corruption since the fall of the Soviet Union Ukraine has suffered from one of the worst just environments for corruption in the world. A parade of witnesses testified in the house about the pervasive corruption in Ukraine. And how it is in America's foreign policy I'll see a national security interests to help Ukraine combat corruption turning the call right off the bat. President trump mentioned burden-sharing Sharing the president's Alinsky president trump told presidents Alinsky that Germany does almost nothing for you and a lot of European countries are the same way president in trump's specifically mentioned speaking to Angle Merckel of Germany whom he said talks Ukraine. But she doesn't do anything. Prisons Wenski agreed. You're you're absolutely right. He said he spoke with the leaders of jerk of Germany and France and told them that they are not doing quite as much as they need to be doing so right. At the beginning of the call president trump was talking about burden-sharing president trump then turned to corruption in the form of foreign interference in the two thousand sixteen presidential election. Ah there is absolutely nothing wrong with asking a foreign leader to help get to the bottom of all forms of foreign interference in American presidential election election. You'll hear more about that later from one of my colleagues. What else did the president say? The president also warned Presidents Alinsky that he appeared to be surrounding himself himself with some of the same people as his predecessor and suggested that a very fair and very good prosecutor was shut down by some very bad people again. One of my colleagues will speak more about that. The content of the July twenty five call was in line with the trump administration's legitimate concerns about corruption and reflected the hope that President Residents Alinsky. Who campaigned on a platform of reform would finally clean up Ukraine? So what the president trump and presidents residents alinsky discussing the July twenty five call two issues burden-sharing corruption just as importantly what wasn't isn't discussed on the July twenty five call. There was no discussion of the paused Security Assistance on the July Twenty Five Call House Democrats keep keep pointing to presidents Alinsky statement that I would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense but he wasn't talking there about Out The pause security assistance. He tells us in the very next sentence exactly what he was talking about. Javelin missiles we already presidents Alinsky continues news to continue to cooperate for the next step specifically. We are almost ready to buy more. Javelin is from the United States for defense purposes. Javelin are the anti-tank missiles missiles only made available to the Ukrainians President Trump. President Obama refused to give Javelin Ukrainians for years. Javelin sales were not part. Were not not part of the security assistance that had been paused at the time of the call. Javelin sales have nothing to do with the PAS. Security Assistance those are different programs entirely. But don't take my word for both former ambassador to Ukraine Maria von Vich and NFC senior director Timothy Morrison confirmed the Javelin missiles in the security assistance. Were unrelated. The House. Managers didn't tell you about embassador. Uganda riches and Tim Morrison's testimony. Why not they could've taken two to five minutes out of twenty one hours to make sure you understood that the javelin sales being discussed gust we're not part of the PAS security assistance this puts the following statement by President trump in a whole new light? Doesn't it I would like to do us a favor though. Because our country's country's been through a lot in Ukraine knows a lot about it as everyone knows by now president trump asked presence to do us a favor and he made clear that US referred to our country and not himself more importantly the president was not connecting. Do us a favor favor to the javelin sales. The president's Linski mentioned it makes no sense in language there but even if he had been the javelin sales were not part of the security the assistance that had been temporarily paused. I want to be very clear about this when the house. Democrats claim that. The javelin sales discussed on the July twenty five call are part of the PAS security assistance it is misleading. They're trying to confuse you and just sort of wrap everything in instead of unpacking it the right way there was no mention mentioned the PAS security assistance on the call and certainly not from President trump as you know head of state calls are staffed aft by a number of AIDS on both sides lieutenant. Colonel Alexander Vincent Detailee at the National Security Council raised the concern about the call and that was just a policy concern. Lieutenant Colonel. Vincent admitted that he did not know whether there was a crime or anything of that nature but he had deep policy concerns policy concerns. So there you have it. But the president. The president sets the foreign policy in a democracy such as ours ars. The elected leaders make foreign policy. While the unelected staff such as Lieutenant Colonel Veneman implement the policy other witnesses witnesses were on the July twenty five call and had very different reactions than that of Lieutenant. Colonel Vitamin Lieutenant. General Heath Kello National Security Advisor. The vice president former acting national security advisor in a long serving and highly decorated veteran attended the call. According to General Kelong I was on the much reported. July twenty five call between President Donald Trump and presidents alinsky as an exceedingly seating -ly proud member of the trump administration of president trump's administration and as a thirty four year highly experienced combat veteran. Who Retired with the rank of lieutenant the General in the army? I heard nothing wrong or improper on the call. I had and have no concerns. The House manager said that other witnesses. We're also troubled by the July twenty five call and identified those witnesses as Jennifer Williams and Tim Morrison Jennifer Williams. WHO Works for Lieutenant? General Kellogg now claims that she has concerns about the call. You heard that from the house managers. They were very careful in the way they worded them. What they didn't tell you is that Miss Williams was so troubled at the time of the call that she told exactly zero people of her concern? She told no one for two two months following the call. Not One person Ms Williamson raise any concerns about the call when it took place not with Lieutenant General Kellogg not with council not with anyone. Ms Williams waited to announce her concerns until Speaker Pelosi publicly announced her impeachment inquiry..
"colonel vitamin" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"It sounds like you had just earlier testified that you weren't aware of that but if that was the concern of the president try to get to the bottom of it and it's the concern of of ambassador silent who was trying to set up meetings on behalf of to make to ensure really that that meetings occurred and phone calls occurred to strengthen the relationship a little I understand the people at the NFC people state the department had issues with that but the end of the day? Isn't it the commander in chief that makes those decisions. My point is that we at the national the Security Council will not told the by the president directly or through Ambassador Bolton we were to be focused on these issues as a matter of US foreign policy towards Ukraine. So when you're talking about Mikron in two thousand sixteen I never personally heard the president say anything specific about twenty sixteen and Ukraine. I've I've sent him seeing plenty of things publicly but I was not given a directive in fact I was given a directive on July Tenth Byron Buster Bulletin very clearly to stay out of domestic politics politics. Just for sake of the time I think as of July nineteenth they hadn't even engaged with Rudy Giuliani. aww I don't believe that happened until a little bit later. So you believe by July nineteenth. They were already engaged. In those types of activities we already had a discussion. Uh with Kurt Volcker rule which was in the positions of his assistant. Chris Anderson the indicated that he had met with Rudy Giuliani. This point and I busted awesome blend bed comments about meeting Giuliani and as we know in the May twenty third meeting. There had been instructed to Giuliani. They give us every impression they were meeting with. Rudy Giuliani at this. Point and Rudy. Giuliani was also saying on the television and subsequently he was closely coordinating with the state. Department's it was is my belief that they were meeting them. Okay and there's some I mean there's some ambiguity in that direction work with Rudy. Giuliani ambassador. Volker said the President President dismissed Ukraine. And said Oh if you want to work on it just go talk to Rudy and ambassador. Sunland took that a little bit differently and I believe believe that imaginer Volcker was primarily. The interlocutory with Mr Giuliani. And that was happening. Didn't didn't start until the end of July. I learned that subsequently from Ambassador Volkers deep position so I just want to tell you in that particular timeframe. I was not aware of this. And in fact Gordon Gordon Sunland did refer to Rudy Giuliani and again now busted Bolton had warned. I'm BUSTA Volka not to meet with Rudy Giuliani and a meeting Mr Morrison told us both his deposition public hearing that you had related concerns about Colonel Vitamins judgment. I did not relate any concerns in general terms about Colonel Vitamins Judgment Slavs Somewhat surprised when I heard Mr Morrison make that assertion and when I read his deposition Russian there was a very specific point that was made and again. These are personnel issues. I'm sure that nobody here would like to have their private personnel issues. Put before a committee. But you've asked me about this so I had a couple of very short transition meetings With Mr Morrison and again Mr Morrison did not work out directorate. He was taking king over the position which he held for three months. I had worked on. Ask the director of the Senior Director for Europe and Eurasia. It was at the time for more than two two years. This point and I've been working for your with Curnow Inman. But Mr Finland in the cost of one of the meetings sometime in the June time firm I sat sat down with Mr Morrison and with a deputy referred to him and his deposition John Aris who was also working and we went through our organizational charts. We went through. who was staying being who was rotating out leaving in the summer? And we talked about everybody's strengths and weaknesses. And I always ask my stuff to do a put feedback as well to talk about what I wasn't doing my tither. I'd like to learn to and I said that I was concerned about the way. Things are trending in Ukraine policy. So I'm AH CONAL. Vin Ben is a highly distinguished decorated military officer. He came over to us from the chairman's office and the Joint Chiefs of Staff and we were were evaluating and looking at him in the context of what his future positions would be in the context of the US army. And I was concerned that if if for example might decide to leave the military. That popsy wasn't as well suited for something that would be much more political. I did not feel that. He had the political olitical antenna to deal with something. That was straying into domestic politics now. Everyone is suited for that. That does not mean anywhere that I was questioning his overall all judgment nor was I crossing anywhere his substantive expertise he is excellent on issues related to Ukraine Belarus and Moldova on Russian. Defenses us. He'd been in charge of the Russia campaign. Thinking through the at the chairman's office and in the Pentagon this was a very specific issue because by June we saw that things were diverging and nudity completely different sensitivities. Some people in my office have worked at the highest levels of advisory positions and Mr Morrison had come from Capitol Hill. He knew politics inside out. and Are we said that Colonel Inman did not and we were concerned about how he he would manage what was becoming highly charged and potentially parties on issue which had not been before and colonel related deaths during his deposition that he subsequently was sort of cut out of a lot of the decision making and involvements with with the embassy in Ukraine. was that something you recommended. Not with the embassy in Ukraine. I mean we did pull him back from the meeting. In May in the Oval Office and subsequent couldn't we were very concerned about these political aspects to this and we did not feel when July tenth. Colonel Vin was justified. Be Alarmed when he realized realized that there was this highly political aspect of the meeting that we were looking for eventually with presidency landscape and Mr Holmes I want to the end of August we understand that Bassett or Taylor was engaged in and obtaining some information for the president about European allies burden sharing in the region as the decision about aid was being debated after the whole was placed on the security assistance. Many people I think we're scrambling to try to understand. And why I believe Senator Johnson who had said. The president was concerned about burden-sharing. Perhaps others as well and so trying to interpret why this might the happened. We were looking into the facts of what the Europeans have provided we provided Very illuminating we learned the United States is provided combined civilian and military assistance to Ukraine since two thousand fourteen of about three billion dollars plus two one billion dollar three one billion dollar loan guarantees. That's not get paid back largely so just over three billion dollars. The Europeans at the level of the European Union plus the member states combined since two thousand fourteen my understanding and have provided a combined. Twelve billion dollars to Ukraine. And you were able to communicate that information back the end of August I believe so. Yeah we were this is done. In collaboration collaborations with other missions you to NATO and others yes and that was the information the White House looking for. We don't know if the concern turn was that we weren't that others were spending as much as we were sport Ukraine then that information showed a different story. Okay and the aid was subsequently lifted. Lifted the pause and the egg is shortly thereafter. It was a guest in early September mid September go back recognize myself for five minutes document. Ask You you may be aware of some of the attacks on Colonel Vitamin suggesting that he has a dual loyalty that he's not really loyal to America. He's loyal to Ukraine. I wanted to ask you as a fellow immigrant. What you think of those kind of accusations levelled against Colonel Vitamin or other Americans? I think it's very unfortunate. I mean this is a country of immigrants with the exception POPs of very few people still here. Everyone emigrated to the United States at some point in their family history. And this is what for me really does make America Great. I mean I'm sure that every single person here some people pops Kim reluctantly others came by choice as I did But this is for me. This is the essence of America. It's why I wanted to be here and why I wanted to stay here and I think it's unfair to castigate anyone. Everyone has some kind of appellate a to the an Anglo American pops are. I'm a British American naturalized citizen. I do not believe that my loyalty is to the United Kingdom. My loyalty is. He's here to the United States. This is my country in the country that I serve and I know for a fact that every single one of my colleagues and there were many naturalized citizens in my office and across the National Security Council. I'm still felt exactly the same way. I think it's deeply unfair. Thank you you mentioned. Something your testimony have this. That's exactly right that I think a bastard. Sawn lead one point told you his role was to make deals is that right. That's correct. I WANNA ask people lost as well to be To be clear I want to ask you about one of those deals. The one that Vaster Bolton described as they drug deal I had the suggestion or the indication rather when and Mr Goldman asking questions about the July tenth meeting and the fact they were two meetings one and then another in the ward room that there was more you had to say about that Do you want to walk us through that a little more detail. Well the reference that I'm busted Baltin Med was after I returned from the ward room and related to him. What I had I heard so there was the sequencing of meetings which I know that there's been some concern about the sequencing here and discrepancies between various depositions positions? So what happened immediately after the meeting that I'm busted Bolton caught. A little short was that he told me to the whole back in the room and he was escorting out the Ukrainian visitors along with Secretary Perry and ambassadors Vulcan sunland blend. I guess they wanted to take a quick photograph outside of his office. And I know that secretary. Perry and others have tweeted out photograph Beautiful Sunny Day and there's a a picture of all of them standing just outside of Ambassador Bolton's office. This is a very quick. He came back in. And at that point. I guess they were already moving down to the boardroom. Because is on the way out of combustible office. I'm busted a some London said let's regroup in the watery for quick cuddle on next steps APPs which to be honest with quite unusual. You don't usually huddle in a room in the White House to discuss next steps. With foreign delegations Gatien's because we took it to being next steps on setting up the meeting which already as I'd said Ambassador Bolton wasn't prepared to do and when I'm busting Bolton came back into the office that's when he gave me the very strong instruction to go downstairs find out what was being discussed and to come right back up and reports it to him and as I came into the wall dream about experiment and ambassadors Sunland. We're in an exchange and that's what I noticed that. Look quite alarmed armed now. I know that I'm buses. Some land was asked yesterday again. I watched All of his testimony and I watch it very carefully that there was some questions about yelling in shouting I certainly never said that and there was no yelling and shouting. That's some embellishment. That's crept in POPs in media depictions. All how people like to tell these stories and odd things to them. When I came in I'm buses sunland was an exchange with a Kennel Vin ben along the lines of well? We have an agreement A to have this meeting and I came in and I asked what's going on here..
"colonel vitamin" Discussed on No Agenda
"My core function is to coordinate. US US government policy agency policy. And I spoke to two individuals with regards to providing a some some sort of readout of the call now two individuals that were not in the White House not in the White House cleared the US government officials with with appropriate need to know and what agencies sees were these officials with Department of State Department of State and Deputy Secretary George Kent who is responsible for The the portfolio eastern Europe including Ukraine and a individual from the office of intelligence community What as you know? The intelligence community has seventeen different agencies. What agency was this individual from if I could interject here? We don't want to use these meetings. It's time we need to protect the whistle blower if please stop. I WanNa make sure that there's no effort to out the whistleblower through these proceedings if the witness as a good faith belief that this may reveal the identity of the whistleblower That is not the purpose that we are here for. And I want to advise The the witness accordingly so now of course what's interesting is shift says that he doesn't even know the whistle blower does know who he is yet apparently gently he does know that when WTN's about to say office and maybe he was going to say office of Management and Budget Office of the Director of National Intelligence. It's it's an office of something. There's a number of them but the minute he's ready to spill the beans shifts steps in. Well that's interesting. Thinks he's supposedly doesn't know who it is. Exactly here's Here's been men telling newness to shut up. You testified in your deposition that you did not know the whistle blower ranking member lieutenant. Colonel Police Lieutenant Colonel Vitamin you testify. Shut up slave. What play adding add again wasn't expecting to go that way Fisher vines? You testified in your deposition that you did not know the whistle blower rank remember exile. Lieutenant attended Colonel Women. Police lieutenant colonel. Benjamin testified shut up. I out rank you now. Of course with all the touchy feely stuff. I could have pulled a million clips about how people felt hurt and it was wrong and no president. Should subvert vert our foreign policy as if that's true but okay and so it's very easy for president is the foreign policy. It's very easy for either either side and when I say side I'm talking about m five M it's very easy for them to Cherry pick bits and pieces and create a story around which is really what this is about the only thing the only solace I take is that these politicians and the m five M are still playing by the old rules rules. The old rules are give it you know. Give a An interview to the New York Times..
"colonel vitamin" Discussed on The Dan Bongino Show
"Go check it out. Okay hitting back to the show. So Jim Jordan asks Colonel Vitamin yesterday. Who Remember nobody's supposed to question John? That's right destroy. Flynn landed every Opportunity Question Madman ever school he asks then you have a chain of command correct. You're on the National Security Council. We have a civilian led military. Correct if you read the Constitution Liberals Commander in chief is the president. He's a civilian. That's the way that works. The National Security Council that advises the President is at at times can be led by civilians. Doesn't mean someone in the military can't be involved lieutenant. Colonel was but lieutenant colonel. Vitamin Hattie supervisor at supervisor. A man named Tim Morrison. Now Tim Morrison doesn't believe there was a quid. Pro Quo supports the president's theory on on this that the president was interested in fighting corruption in Ukraine. And because Tim Morrison didn't subscribe to the Democrats latest impeachment hoax about a fake quid pro quo. That never happened happened right somehow. Giove inman supervisor Morrison who didn't follow me hear it in his scribe to the hoax wound up magically getting bypassed a past environments complaints about the call about the fake quid pro quo shit. How did that happen? Jim Jordan does a great job catches VIN in this weird little thing and he has an interesting question. Well if you didn't tell your supervisor complaints about the trump called the Ukrainian president who else did you tell and watch the panic breakout. Check this out. The lawyer told you talk to any other people and you interpret. That is not talking to your boss but you talk to your brother. You Talk to the lawyers you talk to the Secretary Kit and you talk to the one guy ship won't tell you what let us won't let you tell us who he is. That right representing Jordan. I did my job. I'm not saying you did it. All I'm saying. Is You your instructions from the lawyer was. You shouldn't talk to anybody and you interpret. That is don't talk to my boss but I'm GonNa go talk opt to someone that we can't even ask you who that individual is veterans incorrect. Just read what you said. Better shouldn't talk to any other people and has expired. Yeah there's sorry chairman but sequence is not the way it played out. I mean trying to turn an script colonel. Then there's the sequence played-out were immediately afterwards. I expressed my concerns. I did my coordination function. Mr Eisenberg circled back around. Told me not to talk to anybody else. In that period of time I did not. So that's when it happened. That's when you talk to my Gosh folks. I listened this vitamin testimony. Yesterday was such an apocalyptic Disaster Asher that I can almost guarantee you. They will memory whole this whole thing. Goodbye you won't hear another word about Inman from this point on. He was outside outside taking selfies yesterday with his brother. I'm not kidding doesn't surprise me from what I've seen with him. Either Joe so vigne acknowledges he didn't tell his boss his chain of command about the complaint he had then he acknowledges that when he told the lawyer the lawyer told them not have to tell anybody by the way folks in the interest of time he acknowledges after that that despite the fact that he just said the lawyer told him not to tell anybody he told his brother and he told all Deputy Assistant Secretary of State George Ken and he acknowledges telling somebody else this. This is what I teased in the beginning of the show where I promise you. You're going to get coverage here you're not gonNA find anywhere. Kinda sounds like the dossier Redo Watt. What what are you talking about? Don't you worry but I want you to keep this in mind because this is going to be the most important part of this segment here. Everybody pay close attention. Inch Jordan understands that vitamin has a credibility issue. Here then men claims he had a beef with this call. President trump had with Ukrainian Ukrainian president. That started this whole thing. That was the whistle or complaining alleged quid pro quo on the call right then men saying yeah. I had a problem with the call to Georgia. Well why didn't you go to your supervisor. Who by the way doesn't believe that the quid pro quo was on the call? Well I was busy and I went to a lawyer. You manage to find a lawyer despite the fact that you were busy and then the lawyer told me not to tell anybody. That's not what happened. You told your brother you told George Kent and by the way were on your team and you also said you told someone else in the intelligence community. Why is that important? Oh aw well. This is a little bit of an extended clip. Joe And I have a General Reno about a minute and thirties. The length folks Joe and I both agreed. We're making an editorial decision here. Pala to I says about two minutes long. This is congressman. Devin nunes questioning that decision decision VIN manmade to tell someone in the intelligence community in newness as well. WHO's that it's about two minutes long but this is worth your time and I want you to keep a few things in mind? As you're listening shift lied to the American Public Adam Schiff and said he doesn't know who the whistleblowers literally nobody believes him with any credibility. Okay nobody knows who the whistleblowers vitmain is also said. I don't believe him either. that he doesn't know who the whistle blowers. So Joe if neither one of them know the name or identity of the whistle blower blower then why would vin men telling newness who he told about this complaint out the whistle blower. They just said they don't know who he is so with. Women told someone in the intelligence community who knows is the whistle blower more than women's lying about not knowing the whistle blow. If admins telling the truth that he doesn't know the whistle blower. Then just tell us who you told despite your lawyers direction in the intelligence community because you know he's the worst of all right. Everybody get this. Nunez picks up on this to listen to this about two minutes long. And I'M GONNA get the how how this is GonNa you're gonNA see vitamin totally disappear why this is so devastating. Check this out as you know. The intelligence community has seventeen different agencies. What agency he was this individual from if I could interject here we don't want to use these proceedings? It's our time and Jerry. We need to protect the whistle blower. If at least stop. I WanNa make sure that there's no effort to out the whistleblower through these proceedings If the witness as a good faith belief that this may reveal the identity of the whistle blower that is not the purpose that we are. We're here for and I want to advise Witness accordingly Mr Veneman. You testified in your deposition that you did not know the whistle blower rank member lieutenant. Colonel Women Police Lieutenant Colonel. Benjamin you testified in the deposition that you did not not no the whistle blower was. I do not know who the whistle blower is that. How's it possible for you to name these people? And then out the whistle blower per the advice of my counsel I. I've been advised not to answer specific questions about members of the intelligence community this is. Are you aware that this is the intelligence committee. That's conducting an impeachment. Hearing of course Sam wouldn't the appropriate place for you to come to testify would be the intelligence committee about someone within the intelligence community ranking member per the advice of my counsel and the instructions from the chairman. I've been advised not to provide any specifics on who I've spoken spoken to with inside the intelligence community. What I can offer is that these were properly cleared individuals or properly cleared individual with a need? No well this is I mean you can really. You can plead the fifth. But you're here to answer questions regions and you're here under subpoena so you can either answer the question or you can plead the fifth. Excuse me on behalf of my client. Good catch seven Nunez. Good Catch Devon Darn right time now. What's the wrinkle on that? Let me just cut to the chase. The Democrats prior to yesterday despite newness catching them in ally have pitched to us. Show the fact that this man of impeccable credentials. WHO's never be questioned lieutenant? Colonel Vinson's that he's corroboration for the whistle blower complaint follow. Okay let me relate to the dossier using an analogy how they're trotting out the same strategy again. And what I'm telling you. Maybe we'll make more sense. The dossier we were told was corroborated by press reports. Right Joe the Pfizer warrant where they used the dossier to spy on trump sites press report as corroboration of the information in the dossier Joe. What was the problem with that? that the problem with the FIS. Awards strategy was depress reports. They used to corroborate the dossier from who the same. Hi The author author because we all know it wasn't of the dossier at least full. You believe apologised one. I've never heard her say that. They about their follow me now and when this makes sense why is there such a paddock right now over them in. You'll never hear hear. Another word about Vigne is being used. As corroboration of the whistle blower complaining there was a quid pro quo. I'm Vin man. I was so disturbed. Were you the source of the whistleblower. Complaint I thought he was corroboration now. He's in a paddock. Kelly I can't tell you I spoke to in the I see Adam. Schiff told me not to ever notice. What is we're in? The intelligence committee brother probably time to come out with who you who you shared intimate. Your lawyer told you not to write. Remember Joe just like we were told with the dossier these press reports are independent corroboration. They were not. It was the exact same information formation laundered through the press from the same guy. Folks is all of this coming from vitamin is Vin. Men the source for the whistleblower did Intel the Whistle Blower Ladies and gentlemen. I'm just asking a question because if you're going to impeach the president and you're suggesting to it wasn't this man up there Lieutenant Colonel Vin men by the way we have to call them that you know Joe. Don't ever call me Dan on this show. You referred me a special agent Bongino. Whatever refer to me? Is Dan again. It's an insult. I don't know who told them. That was a good idea. Yes and someone tweeted me. He earned the title. He did title. Lieutenant Colonel Folks Devin Nunes called the mystery. He wasn't disrespecting. The guy gives us all a break but if we have. I've been pitched again. That then minister. Independent corroboration because he heard the call. That's what we were told then was on the call. He is independent dependent corroboration and he's the actual source potentially for the whistleblower. Ladies and gentlemen again we have dossier part. Well Yeah. Please tell me that me sense. I didn't think of that either. Because if you're not behind the scenes or understanding the mechanics of what's going on here. You're under the mistaken belief that what happened yesterday up on the hill would vin men with some kind of success Ooh Trust me when I tell you most mornings not going. Well don't sweat it. Don't panic I'm telling you yesterday was was an apocalyptic disaster vin was grossly. Unprepared doesn't know claims to be a Ukraine. Experts never talked to the president claim to be a Ukraine expert knows nothing about actual corruption in Ukraine. When involved road vice president we find out yesterday? He's offered the defense minister job by foreign government. We also find out yesterday that he bypassed his own supervisor despite being so concerned about a call he claims seems to be corroboration for the call. But he won't tell us who else he spoke to in the I C and he's hiding who we spoke to because many people believe that the person he spoke to in the icy he may in fact be the whistle blower which would indicate vitamins not corroboration but vin. Men could be the source now. You see the urgency to hype I to whistleblowers name. You Talk to the whistle by lawyers telling me not to say anything. I thought you were up here to impeach impeach the president. Just tell us.
"colonel vitamin" Discussed on The Michael Knowles Show
"Needed I needed a few glasses of that while I was watching these impeachment hearings. Why didn't lieutenant? Colonel Kinmen expresses concerns to his boss. Vinnie was the director of European Affairs on the NFC. His boss is Tim Morrison on the messy. Why did he go to a lawyer? Why did he go around? The official process. Jim Jordan Republican congressman as usual males. Why didn't you go after the call? Why didn't you go to Miss Morrison? I went immediately per the per the instructions from the July tenth incident. I went immediately to Mr Eisenberg after that once. I made that expressed my concerns. This was an extremely busy week. We had a just finish. We had the call and then we had a deputies meeting which consumed all my time. I was is working extremely long. Days is that right lieutenant. Colonel Than Men. So the reason that you didn't go to your superiors and follow the chain of command here when you wanted to change US policies singlehandedly. The the reason that you went to a lawyer instead but you didn't have time to go to your boss is because you were really busy that week are you joking. This says like a freshman in college didn't finish his term paper on time making an excuse to his professor. You had time to go to the lawyer. You had time to gin up this whole conspiracy this whole impeachment hoax which we've heard is a hoax. Based on now what five major witnesses called forth by Adam shift. That's defy so you you. You had time to do that but you don't have time to go to your boss. Give me a break you. You had time to talk to somebody. And it wasn't even just the lawyer he also had Eh Tundras. NFL to talk to his boss the time to talk to the lawyer and he had time to talk to somebody else in the murky deep State Intelligence Community Jim Jordan pulls that atom so the lawyer not only didn't go to your boss. You said you try. You didn't go to your boss. You went straight to the lawyer and the lawyer told you not to go to your boss. He No. He didn't tell me until. Why didn't you go to your direct report? Mr Morrison your response. Was this page one too. Because Mr Eisenberg told me to take my concerns to him then I ask you didn't it. Did Mr Eisenberg tell you not to report to go round Mr Morrison and you said actually he did say that. I shouldn't talk to any other people that right. Yes but there's a whole there's a period of time in their between when I spoke to him and when he circled back around it wasn't that long period of time but it was enough time for me too enough time to talk to someone that you won't tell us who it is right I. I've been instructed not to represent Jordan. Here's what I'm getting. The lawyer told you. Don't talk to any other the people and you interpret that is not talking to your boss but you talk to your brother you talk to the lawyers. Talk to Secretary Kit and you talk to the one Guy Adam. Schiff won't tell you won't let us won't let you tell us who he is. That right representing Jordan. I did my job. What a little weasel this guy is? I love to say so Jim. Jordan says Lieutenant Colonel Vitamin the lawyer. Told you not to talk to your boss. Well no no no. He didn't tell me not to talk to my boss until he told me. Not Jerked Talk to my boss. Oh Okay and you didn't have time to talk to anybody right. Yeah that's right. I didn't have time to talk to anybody other than your brother. And other than the secretary and other than the whistle blower and other other than all the time to talk to them right and obviously this point of Inman has nothing to say so he just comes out and says Mr Jordan. I did my job no you. You didn't do your job. You did the opposite of your job. You know what Vin men refers to so much threat. This mindless testimony is how he did go to the bureaucrats bureaucrats. He did. Go to the interagency the interagency. That's the term that keeps coming up. He did go to the federal bureaucracy but he didn't go to his boss us. He didn't follow the chain of command. He didn't follow the president's policy the interagency. That's the battle here. The president the elected guys the American Eric people versus the decisions of the interagency. The federal bureaucracy. The deep state this guy then men is is an operative with an agenda. He's just admitted it himself. How do we? Let's let's put not to put to a point on it but let's see if this weasel bill can can just finally come right out and say what he really wants to which is that he believes it is the job of himself. The job of the interagency interagency the job of the entrenched bureaucracy to make policy. And it's not the job of the elected. President of the United States. Is there a process to determine German official. US policy. Yes that is my job is to coordinate. US policy so throughout the preceding year. That I've been on staff I had undertaken in an effort to make sure we had a cohesive coherent US policy and as you listen to the call. Did you observe whether president trump was following the talking points based on the official. US Policy Council. The president could choose is to Use the talking points or not the president but they were not consistent with what I provided yes the temerity of that response response that response by the way is to the Democratic Council the Temerity of the Democrat Council asking if Lieutenant Colonel VIND men made sure that the president of the United States was following his talking points unofficial. US policy just the question itself. The the question basically boils down to WHO MAKES US policy. Environment doesn't wait one little second he says I make US policy. No you don't dude dude you know who makes. US foreign policy the president of the United States. You don't get to dictate to the president of the United States. What the policy is and you don't get to dictate to the president of the United States? What he should say about? What the policy is you are a functionary? You work for him. You should keep your mouth shut and do what the President of the United States tells you to do. Because guess what none of us elected Lieutenant Colonel Kinman and after that testimony none of us really really seemed like lieutenant colonel of inman. Not a very likable guy. He's a power hungry bureaucrat and oppress about it too we elected trump. Maybe you don't like trump too bad. That's your job. Do Your job. Then men thinks that he makes policy him and the interagency is what he said. The interagency policy was is just support secretary. It was to support security assistance for the Ukraine. Hey you know what I think of the interagency policy when it comes into conflict with the policy of our duly represented duly duly elected representatives. This I think flick off underneath my chin. That's what I think he says. In in my position I coordinate with a superb cohort of interagency. Portland's I bet you coordinate. Four Day with the president of the United States and shut your mouth into your job. He says quote I'm the point man for coordinating the interagency. I don't care who you are and I don't care what your title is. I don't care about you. Lieutenant Colonel. Vitamin A. Care about the American people having control over their own government and you following the orders of the elected representatives. Nobody elected this guy. Hi He wants representative. Nunez have more respect for his military title about Lieutenant. Colonel Vitamin show some respect to to his civilian superiors namely Devon Nunez namely his boss on the National Security Council namely the president of the United States. In this this country. The civilians run the show not the military. I have great respect for the military. I don't have a ton of respect for women but I have a lot of respect for the military and by the way most of my pals in the military know that in this country the civilians run the show about the interagency. I got friends who've worked at the interagency. The good ones are the ones who know that. The civilians run the show in particular the elected representatives not some some technocrat tyrants in the deep state okay. Do you know who runs the show in this country. Not any of the punks like Eric. Chara Mela allegedly who who are shredding our Constitution. Because they don't like that the American people elected the wrong candidate in two thousand sixteen. This is not even about the left versus the right. This is is not even a bad democrat versus Republican. I mean it is in so much as the left likes the entrenched bureaucracy. A lot more than the right tends to but you know. Republicans like the bureaucracy. Chrissy sometimes too if a Democratic president right now we're threatening the technocratic status quo you can bet that the deep state would be going after them to. This is a major threat to the country. This is a major threat because it actually transcends partisan differences in the partisan divide and it gets right down to the heart of who we are. Are we going to be a country. That's run by a good experts with nice ties. All well tied up and good looking jackets on who nobody likes them. And they don't have any real powers designated in the constitution but they know better for us. So they're gonNA make policy and the president and he just better go along with it and by the way if he doesn't go along with it we're gonNA throw him out of office and who cares. What the American people say? There's that possibility or self government in our constitutional order. We get to decide. Obviously people lieutenant. Colonel Edmon have made their decision. I think we should probably make another decision. The only way that this is going to resolve itself delve deep state is defeated the deep state the deep state. It's a real thing it's called the bureaucracy. You just saw major representative of it right now. The deep state does not want to voluntarily give up power because what the deep state thinks is that the electrodes come and go political winds change but they are always going to be there. Are We need to seriously deplete their power. I actually like a lot of the agencies and the bureaucracy I think they do some good good work but they have become far too powerful and if they are going to try to take sovereignty they're going to try to take the control of making policy in the United States states away from the American people. They must be defeated. You know there was the line in ancient Rome. CARTHAGO DELENDA S. Carthage must be destroyed. 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"colonel vitamin" Discussed on Pat Gray Unleashed
"Three and on twitter Jim Jordan Jordan pointed out that Benjamin the big witness that here yesterday was going to be so devastated. The president just look sorry Lieutenant Colonel Vitamin that Goo yes lieutenant colonel But and by the way the the the civilians are under no obligation I refer to him as such thank you now. That smacked of Komi senator earned. It sure did that was my first thought yesterday. uh-huh the Dianne Feinstein thing. Could you please refer to me as senator. I worked really hard to get that. Yeah Okay Okay Yeah okay. Diane Jordan pointed out that Vincent that Lieutenant Lieutenant Colonel Vin men is the only witness shift one answer he will shift. Won't let answer questions about the whistle blower because apparently the thought processes it was vendor. Who gave the whistle blower the information or in the first place and he was ready to name? Both names That he talked to yesterday to news closer all lawyers and and yeah and Schiff and everybody. WHO's in on this thing Jumped in there are other whistleblower. First of all how are you going to expose a whistle blower. You don't even know who it is right right. You don't even know who it is. You told us so. And it's nice. That Jordan also made that point. Yeah you told us you. Don't nobody believes it but you told told us you don't know who that is. I love that and it's true. How how are you going to keep us away from the whistleblower? If you don't know that was my biggest takeaway from yesterday. I can't remember who made this point so many people were talking yesterday. That you know the the infamous phone call was July twenty fifth and it's supposedly a quid. Pro Quo bribe. Whatever ever you know flavor of the month charged? They WANNA give this go around. But it wasn't until So it was in the afternoon session. It wasn't until the Ukrainian saw the politico article on August twenty eighth. I think it was that they said. Hey what's this story about. Our aid is being delayed so they didn't even have a reason to. I suspect that there was some sort of. I know there was any delay right right. So it's just does not hold water whatsoever no and it continues today. A with What's his name? Oh Yeah I can't wait to talk about talking about the Gordon problem. What's her name brought up yesterday? There's a Gordon problem or no. The guy was quoting. I don't know there's so Gordon problem. I don't know like him. They were keeping something from him or something. I don't no no but I hope that hope it comes up today. The Gordon problem because he's going to be testifying today and then we got more tomorrow anyway. It's it's never gonNA end today's the big day. They think they thought yesterday and it wasn't and then they thought last week we're big days. They weren't but But today today's the big day today with the testimony back plus the debate. Yeah the yeah I mean. It's a big day the it's a big. Yeah I mean Sunlen what is what is he going to say. He doesn't he doesn't know anything either. He wasn't on the phone call was all but but he. He overheard had feelings about it. He didn't he over here no he was on the phone with the president when somebody else overheard him him on the phone in restaurants I think it was a chance that he thinks he's talking to Donald Trump. I think he is and I'm excited. Conversations that Donald Trump. Yeah I think so look. He's acting like he might be talking to the President Act when one is talking to the president yesterday was also this whole thing is reenact today. He's got just as much evidence as solid. Thank you or Vin been did ah or certainly last week's witnesses non witnesses and I love the fact that the Democrats have completely flushed down the toilet the the freeze quid pro quo. Because nobody knows what it means. Hi This is Latin. People aren't getting it. They're not they're not worried about. Let's go go to bribery. Okay that's something. The American people understand. And you know they did a focus group and in quid pro quo meant nothing to them. Well well it was a joke joke. Yes so there's primary there's no quick we call it whatever you want. It didn't happen right. It clearly. Early didn't happen when they when they got the aid which by the way were not obligated to give them and they did nothing for us. I think it's fascinating Democrats. Rats are more concerned about the tax dollars going to military for Ukraine than our own military. Oh I mean all of a sudden they're either. They're hawks all of a sudden for Ukraine. Aren't you sitting this stuff come on. Where's the military? A part of the problem too is that Donald Trump you know win against protocol. Well he sets the protocol Thought the Department of State So get over it. I love how protective these Democrats are of Ukraine because of Russia when Russia was just a nothing to worry about. It was ridiculous to worry about. Russia's ill I thought the eighty s were calling and they wanted their policy. Thank you I mean one thing after another for these flaming hypocrites you know as as tiresome is all of this impeachment hearing stuff is hopefully this rapid fire having people one after another. Maybe they'll have this vote before Thanksgiving and we can move on. Well actually no. We won't be able because they will it'll get outta the house wanted and then we'll just be waiting for the Senate after Thanksgiving. I don't know that they're going to also I also have. The vote was their plan. Originally I don't think they will. They know they don't have any. I mean I know. They don't have anything though. Vote Musica to to bilk it. Yes yes I don't know about that. Morton delay the American people are getting really tired of it. So I'm a person and I'm I'm tired of it so that's our commercial American person and I'm tired of it. I would American person. I'm tired of it. I'm an American can person and I'm tired of it to American people and we're tired of it. I love it. Yes we should record that yes but my point is they probably want to actually. They realize they're going to lose one way or another. Yeah now they just wanted off their plate. No I don't know I don't know it's hard to say with these boneheads. I don't I don't know I mean maybe run across. Somebody overheard another full. Yes maybe somebody WHO's sitting to booth down other cell phone call. You would have thought by now. They would have had some surprise witness that we didn't know you would've thought as as much as if dragged us out in this confident as they've seen you would have thought okay. They've got something there. Hold back not all they have is anything hatred of Donald Ultra. That's it that's all they have and it.
"colonel vitamin" Discussed on The Daily Beans
"Pot notes all right so as I said four. Witnesses testified impeachment inquiry today pence staffer Jennifer Williams Lieutenant. Colonel Veneman we know him ambassador Volker and the Guy who took over a hill job after she resigned to Morrison it's of note that the Republicans had both Volcker and Morrison on their list of witnesses. So that's what happened so that you know they you know shifts like in the interest. Most of you know bipartisanship etc were bringing in Volker Morrison they were GonNa Bring Volker Morrison Anyway because after you know we learned about a a bunch after we've had some You know testimony last week from Yvonna. Vich Taylor Kent. And then of course the closed-door deposition by homes Questions then became clear. You're about volkers testimony and how it contradicted. Not just the public testimony that we've had but some of those private depositions in the Dungeon As as the Republicans call today the what do they call it. The fucking dramatic. The interview Dungeon. Or some Shit's dungeon thing. I don't know probably Roger Stone Invention So let's begin with The first two witnesses today and that was Williams and Colonel Women Been Men's opening statement brought me to not I swear to God especially at the end when he said Dad. Today is proof that you made the right decision forty years ago to leave the Soviet Union and come here to America in search of about our life for our family. Do not worry I will be fine fine for telling the truth. Well because his dad and he went a little bit deeper into it later but his dad's very concerned because in Soviet Russia. Yeah you don't you. Yeah you're harmed. I speaking youth to power. He would be murdered. Yeah You know I would A. B. I would have a fall out of a four story. Apartment balcony off balcony so that statement was just stunning to me and despite ratcliffe raising concerns that none of the fact witnesses used the word bribery in their depositions. Even brought out a stack depositions to be all dramatic they do that. Republicans like to bring out stacks of paper tree killers Trump did that. Marie was like. I'm cutting all these Programs this government waste and he brought out literally like twenty reams of paper and stack them up and put a bow on it like. Here's your president. I just just killed trees and honestly that violates the kind of guy who need to print an email he does and then he writes on it and the axes it to people exactly But doc there's actually a a rule in government policy you know paperless that we went paperless so he actually violated a lot of rules printing all that shit out. It's probably just blank. He's funny packing just a fun fact. Another rule he broke just another one so shift address that about the bribery. Not being mentioned once it was all. He's actually she was mentioned once and it was in in conjunction with the with Biden with Joe Biden so Shifa addressed this by explaining to Republicans who might not know but probably do know. And we're just just being Dick's that fact witnesses do not make determinations about what high crimes or misdemeanors the President committed. Congress does that same goes for irregular criminal trial when you have witnesses come into criminal trial. They don't say well yeah that was definitely a perjury x eighteen section. One thousand one. I you know they just tell you what they know. And and then they either the grand jury and then or the jury depending on what part of the investigation or trial. You're in will make the determination about what crimes are going to be charged In in the grand juries case or what crimes are you going to be convicted of in the trial so that was just dumb We learn new new information that vitamin was offered a position in Ukraine is the defense minister. I think in a clear attempt to bolster the Republican talking point that Colonel Vitamin is duly obliged aged right. But like he's got you know loyalty Split Loyalty Ya. He's not really for us. Yeah Yeah I think that backfired spectacularly early and blew up in their faces because Colonel Vincent said he was offered the job. Three times in refused Then he went immediately and reported to superiors and everyone kind of had a laugh about it and it never came up after true that it really just shows how awesome he is yeah And and he remains an American in an American uniform and testified that he is an American would never consider such a position. Spike like prior military personnel taking high level positions in foreign governments. I mean this has happened before I think he mentioned an air force colonel or something like that and he's also joking like I was as lieutenant. Colonel I'm not even full bird like I don't even know why you know they would do that. But ha ha there. They really like me so that that's a testament to how rod you are. Not How should he you know he also like you can just tell from watching him in this little teddy bear fan. ooh I can't wait. I wanted to people's energies man. I thought it always is for me. I'm like I can tell. I wanted him to sit next to his twin brothers so I could be like ball twins. Twins fascinate me. Freak me out like I could have an entirely different types just about twins and my feelings on twins. Isn't it weird twins. I think the fascinating now. We have these weird connections. Yeah which is and yes. I do like watching documentaries on twins. It's fascinating and I think somebody could do a really good one on the vitamins Some of the statements though with w-a-n-n-a lines of questioning from From Colonel Villian I found to be incredibly relevant to debunking the Republican talking points the first gop defense being that Zilenski said there was no pressure. Everything was fine. No bribery Vin Men said about July twenty fifth call quote chairman without hesitation new to report this to the White House counsel I had concerns and it was my duty to report my concerns to the proper people in the chain of command. It was inappropriate. It was improper oppor for the president to request to demand an investigation into a political opponent especially from a foreign power where there is at best dubious belief that this would be an impartial investigation and it would have significant implications if it became public knowledge. It would be perceived as a partisan play which would undermine national security and what he's what he's talking about there is that you know if if even even just the withholding evade whether it was conditional on anything puts Ukraine in a position of weakness Nisus and and vulnerability to Russia. Even just withholding shows the even if there was no quid pro quo that aside. Just the withholding of aid without even knowing with the conditions are. It's still totally unacceptable. Yeah and the the president not showing up at vice president even not showing up sending Rick Perry Ron Johnson to to go to the unarguable. That shitty you know because you're we're supposed to show solidarity with with Ukraine that is US policy always has been on Ukraine And so that he went through that but then Goldman who is an excellent legal mind by the way asked because he did this like 'cause his his next question was based on that response and he just was quicker whip with this he says. Now you say this is a demand the favor of the president asked. What is it about the relationship between the president of the United States in the president of Ukraine? That lead you to believe that when the president asks the United States asks a favor like this. It's actually a demand and this is something I've been wanting them to bring up. I've been wanting them to talk about the disparity of power between these two presidents. Yeah Intent Yeah and Colonel Veneman replies chairman the military culture. Try come from when a senior asks you to do something. Even if it's a polite and pleasant it is not to be taken as a request is to be taken as an order in this the case with the power disparity between the two leaders. My impression was that to get this meeting presidents alinsky would have to deliver these investigations. Yeah so so. That's that power dynamic. That's absolutely yeah. I mean you can say that there was no. His tone was not pressuring. There was no pressure but like there's an order coming from the president the United States. That's an order. It's almost like the inability of presidents alinsky to consent. Yeah Yeah right like what was he supposed to be like. Nah Yeah Yeah. Just because he s gently doesn't mean it wasn't an order. Exactly Yeah and you know people who for the former US attorneys. I've spoken to prosecuted Mafia cases. This is how they do. They don't call up and say. Hey here's what my bribery is today under. US Section Code. You know whenever bribery code is I need this for that specifically. Here's the quick for this quo. And if you don't get it I'm going to extort you you know they they don't speak like that. It's a nudge wink. And it's I need you to do me a favor. Though and another exchange that stood out to me was we're Goldman established through questioning that between April twenty first birthday when trump told. I know. Everyone says it's not the twenty-first but I'm going and by the original song April twenty first. When trump told Dolinsky he would send pence to the inaugural and may thirteenth when Jennifer Williams learned? That pence would not be going to the inaugural. Miss Williams did not know what changed between the promise and the revocation of the promise And then after you establish that he asked Vin men gold old gold Goldman. SVN current event about things that occurred. I'm not gonNA ever not called kernel of inman again. We'll get into why later but He has Colonel Vincent about things that occurred during that timeframe. Here's what happened in that timeframe between pence between that friendly call that Nunez read between trump and Alinsky like yes and pants you get pants and then when they learned that pence wasn't going Yvonne which was recalled trump had a phone call with Putin Golden. Brought that up. I thought that was interesting and Giuliani. Johnny had planned a trip to pressure Ukraine to initiate the investigation that trump mentioned in the July twenty fifth call and. That's all myspace of like three weeks. Yeah we have well. They twenty first to May thirteenth so a couple of things phone call with Putin strikes me as very interesting and and that was brought up specifically. I don't know if they know what was on their phone call with Putin but they tend not to ask questions without knowledge. But maybe different in an impeachment case. This isn't muller so Jennifer Williams testimony testimony didn't change from the deposition we read except to say that the tweet from trump naming her was surprising because he attacked her in on twitter. She also spoke about about how when she learned. Pence was held back from going to skis inauguration by trump again but that she didn't know why a few guys hear that sound. It's raining which never happens in San Diego. We're very excited restraining forever. It's going to be nice. 'cause there's a lot of dust right now yes and this will temper that My favorite line of the day was when Congressman Maloney. Ask Colonel von quote. You're putting yourself in direct opposition to the most powerful person in the world. Why do you have confidence president that you can do that? And Tell your dad not to worry and vitamin said Congressman. Because this is America here right matters and I thought that that that was fantastic and the thing that I was talking about Colonel Women. There was a fire moment. Today when Nunez said Mr Veneman and AH Penman said minority Ranking minority minority member ranking minority member. It's lieutenant colonel. Then please like Dancing around like do you. Don't call me Mr Vitamin and then somebody later was like. Why did you do that? And he's like I'm in uniform lieutenant. Colonel That's how you talk to me. Yeah I'm at a United States government facility in uniform. That's how you first meet if you were in the military you'd have to salute me. You know fewer lower rank out nope not inside a government building..
"colonel vitamin" Discussed on Democracy Now! Audio
"It never stops. He's being absurd. By Kramer this is democracy now democracy now dot org the warrant piece report. I'm Amy Goodman with Juan Gonzalez our guest in Washington. DC is the the DC bureau chief for rolling stone and Kroll. He's been closely covering the trump impeachment hearings. So Andy. We just played a series of clips. The hearing was Around ten hours long with various breaks ending about eight thirty eastern last night What most stood out for you what what stood out across these two marathon hearings to me was how unequivocal these four witnesses were? They were ambassadors. They were career staff. They were nonpartisan. They were picked by Democrats and Republicans for these hearings. How much agreement? They were that president. Trump's request his pressure on the Ukrainian president to investigate as tenant Colonel Vitamin put a private citizen and a domestic political rival. How beyond on the Pale that was? They used words like improper inappropriate unusual in wrong to describe this request by the President and then obviously Asli the campaign that followed that request surrounded that request really to get the Ukrainians to investigate Joe and one hundred Biden into also investigate a conspiracy theory since debunked about the two thousand sixteen presidential election. There is no disagreement. There is no dispute among these witnesses coming from various different backgrounds Political backgrounds government backgrounds. Experience that what president did was wrong wrong with president. Trump did was wrong And that they felt like they had to tell someone about this and even speak up in public with this impeachment inquiry about what happened on that call what president trump did and what about the Republican responses to some of the testimony especially in Vinh men the attempts to go after him personally questioning even suggesting questions about his loyalty as well. I've watched every minute of the public impeachment Hearing so far I've read every page of the transcript. Trust me took a long time the Republican responses as to what these witnesses have said have done everything but actually questioned facts and try to get at the truth of what happened to what we saw. Yesterday was pretty good encapsulation of that. You have Devon Nunez. The top Republican on the intelligence committee attacking the media attacking in Democrats attacking the witnesses. You have other members on the committee questioning as you just noted the loyalty and patriotism treatise of someone like Lieutenant. Colonel Vinokourov women was born in. What is now Ukraine? He came to the United States is a toddler with his twin brother and his family he went on to who serve in the Iraq war Earn a Purple Heart. Continue to serve after suffering his injury for almost a year in Iraq and has since it's been a public servant who has sworn to the constitution on several occasions questioning his loyalty because a good official with Ukrainian government. We now know jokingly offered vitamin A position in the Ukrainian cabinet and this was brought up. Defense Secretary Chari of Ukraine. He said each time he was offered that whether or not it was a joke he told his superior he did not only did he turn down. Obviously he reported this to his superior. Lieutenant Colonel Veneman said. Yesterday he is an American. He never entertained this notion once he founded comical and frankly this line of questioning which was also echoed. I would say by the White House on twitter was really a way to get at the challenge. The patriotism of against someone who served in the Iraq war a purple heart government career public servants wanted to the constitution. I wanted to ask you about the the Burris. MMA and Hunter Biden issue because it seems to me that this is going to be lasting damage sued the candidacy of Joe Biden because regardless of what the facts are. The reality is now that the Republican Party has latched onto this. Aw this attempt to to to paint a Joe Biden through. His son is part of the the swamp of Washington. What is your sense since you've been covering this this very closely what? The potential long-term damages to buy on this. And I'll I'll take this up on my answering sort sort of two categories here. The first one is yes. What you've just described is true? What we see in these hearings and what we've also seen from president trump himself? His son his surrogates is an attempt to tarnish a former vice president biden as a presidential candidate by saying that he was involved in some. I'm kind of corrupt deal.
"colonel vitamin" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"Ben Menu in the National Security Council's director for Ukraine. Did you participate in preparing the talking points for the president's call. I did prepare them so you prepare them. They were then reviewed and edited by multiple senior officers at the NFC and the White House. Is that correct. That is correct. The talking points for the president contain any discussion of investigations into the twenty sixteen election. The Biden's or Barack Obama did not are you aware of any written product from the National Security Council suggesting that investigations into the twenty sixteen election. The Biden's or charisma are part of the official policy of the United States. No I'm not some president. Trump's allies have suggested that the president request quest these investigations for official policy reasons as part of some plan to root out corruption in Ukraine. And your experience that the official policies policies of the United States include asking Ukraine to specifically open investigations into the Biden's and interference by Ukraine in the twenty sixteen election. Seven are we prepared or had discussed up until that point included any of these elements. Would it ever be. US policy in your experience just to ask a foreign leader to open a political investigation. There are proper procedures in which to do that. Certainly the president is well within his right right to do that. It is not something the NFC certainly a director at the would do. As a matter of fact we are prohibited from being involved in any transaction action between department of Justice and farm on a foreign power to ensure that there is no perception of manipulation from the White House so it is not something that we participate in Miss Williams and you're experienced. The official policies of the United States include asking Ukraine to open investigations. into the Biden's I had not seen any reference to those particular cases in our policy formulation process Stewart very quickly. I'm curious swin ranking member Nunez referred you Mr Ben Menu quickly corrected him and wanted to be called. Lieutenant Colonel Edmon do you always insist on civilians calling you. Buy Your rank. Mr Stewart Representative Stewart. I'm in uniform wearing my military rank. I just thought it was appropriate to stick with that. Well I know because I don't believe he did but The attacks that I've had in the press in Twitter have kind of eliminated the fact that either a marginalized me as a military officer were. Listen I just I'm just telling you. The ranking remember net meant no disrespect you. I believe that I like to go back to your previous testimony earlier today much much has been talked about as we've discussed between the president and trump and president bush and the word favor and this being interpreted as a basis for impeachment and your interpretation of word favor and I'll paraphrase you and your feel feel free to correct me you said in the military culture which you and I are both familiar with when a superior officer asks for a favor of a sport and they will interpret that as the demand is is that a fair synopsis of what you previously stated representative of when a superior makes a request. That's an order. Okay in short then using your interpretation of a favor as demand is based on your military experience and the military culture. I think that is correct. That is correct. It is president trump a member of the military. He's not has he ever served in the military. I'm not that I'm aware of his presence. Zelinski a member of the military. I'd I believe so. I don't know he's not. Would it be fair then to take a person who has never served in the military and to take your e reevaluation of their words based on your military experience and your military culture and to attach that culture and that meaning of those words to someone who's has never served representative made that judgment. I stick by that judgment I had to tell you. I think it's nonsense. Look I was in the military. I could distinguish between a favor. An order an demand and so could my subordinates and I think presence Zilenski did as well. He never initiated an investigation. In fact he's been very clear he said I never felt any pressure at all so you interpreted the word favor but the two who people who were speaking to each other did not interpret that as a demand it was your interpretation. Is that fair. The context of this call consistent instant with a July tenth July tenth meeting with the reporting that was going on including the president's personal attorney. Made it clear that at this was not simply a request. That's not at all. It's not clear at all. You say it makes it clear. It's not clear at all and the two individuals who are talking talking to each other. Didn't interpret it that way. I'd like to go on to discuss reaction to the phone call and again. Your previous testing and for brevity and for clarity already. I'm going to refer to your previous testimony. Page fifty five year attorneys. Welcome to follow on quoting you. Lieutenant Colonel Goodman. I did not know whether this was a crime or anything of that nature. I thought it was wrong. And I think the key on the word wrong here because we can come back to that in my mind. Did I consider this factor. That could have been other other implications. Yes but it wasn't the basis of I dunno lodging a criminal complaint or anything like that. Then you go on to talk about policy concerns and more ethical judgments so your your concerns regarding this phone call. We're not legal. They are based on moral ethical and policy differences. Let me ask you then and what you thought were wrong to use your word. You said this was wrong not illegal but wrong. There are as I've stated previous sitting here a couple of days ago. There are dozens of corrupt nations in the world. Hundreds of corrupt government officials. Exactly one time did a vice president go to a nation and demand the specific specific firing of one individual and give a six hour time limit and withhold or threatened withhold. A billion dollars. Eight if not it was the one individual who is investigating Skinny company that was paying his son. So I'll ask you that also wrong I that is not what I I. Frankly frankly don't have any first hand knowledge of that. I've I've seen the video was described as video. Everything I just said to you was into video was that wrong. Is Well Congressman. This is something I actually participated and I think I don't attitudes on the time of journalists expired intimate but if you'd like to answer the question more I frankly don't know any that much more about that particular incident. I saw the snippet of the video but I don't know if I could make a judgment off that. Thank you squiggly colonel. It's one thing to ask somebody a favor like hey go pick up my dry cleaning. It's another when the commander in chief of the most powerful army in the world. Ask An ally who's in a vulnerable position. Do him a favor. Is it not yes. Let me go back to that military assistance. If I could Miss Williams will ooh again. When did you first learn that? The security assistance was being held up the nearly four hundred million dollars that was referenced July third and were you aware of any additional or did you attend any additional meetings in which that Military assistance being with how was discussed I did I attended ended meetings on July twenty third and July Twenty six where the security assistance hold was discussed. I believe it may have also been discussed on July thirty first and at that point. Did anyone provide a specific reason for the whole in those meetings the O. Oh NBA representative Reported that the assistance was being held at the direction of the White House. Chief of staff and did they give reasons beyond that. It was being being withheld by the White House. Chief of Staff Not specifically the reason given was that there was an ongoing review. Whether the you the funding was still in line with administration priorities. Did anyone in any of those meetings or any other subsequent discussion you had. Ed Discuss the legality of withholding that aid there were discussions. I believe in the July thirty first meeting and possibly prior as well in terms of AH defense and State Department officials are looking into how they would handle a situation in which earmarked funding from from Congress that was designated for Ukraine would be resolved if the funding continued to be held as we approach the end of the fiscal year. In from what you witnessed missed that anybody in the National Security Community support withholding the assistance. No colonel again just for the record. When did you first learn? The security. Assistance was being withheld on or about July third. What exactly had you learned from the State Department? I believe that Prompted you to draft the notice on July third. I saw an honor about July third. I became aware of inquiries into security assistance funding in general there typical pots State Department and Dod. And I believe it was around that date that maybe put a hold on congressional notification. And had you had any earlier indications that this might be the case Prior to that there are some general inquiries on how the funds were being spent things of that nature. Nothing specific but no no hold. Certainly we you aware of anyone in the National Security Community who supported withholding the aid. No no one from the nationals security. None no one from the State Department. Correct no one from the Department of Defense correct in eighty one into your understanding. Raise the legality of withholding this assistance. It was raised on several occasions. And who raised those concerns so the following the July eighteenth sub. PCC which is again. What I coordinate convene at my level there it was a July twenty third? PCC that would have been conducted by Mr Morrison. There were there. Were questions raised on. As to the legality of of the hold over the subsequent week the issue was analyzed and during the July doc twenty-sixth deputies so the deputies from all the departments and agencies out there was a a opinion rendered that it was It was is legal to P- put to hold. It was excuse me there was an opinion legal opinion rendered. That was okay to that hold was is legal from a purely legal point of view correct. You'll back to the chairman John Yielding mist of hunting so corruption in Ukraine as ambassador. YVONNA Vich testified. One of the key reasons why presidents Alinsky was overwhelmingly elected by the Ukrainian people was that they were finally standing up to rampant corruption. Their country would you both agree. With the Ambassadors Assessment Yes yes and Williams. Corruption was such a critical issue from your perspective perspective that when you prepared the vice president for his congratulatory call with President Celeski. You testified that the point you wanted to communicate on the call where the following unquote looked forward to seeing presidents. Alinsky really implement the agenda on what she had run related anti-corruption reforms. That's correct at us. Yes and Lieutenant Colonel Vin. Would you agree that this focus on anti-corruption is a critical aspect of our policy towards Ukraine. And Lieutenant Colonel Vincent you are aware that in two thousand fourteen during the Obama Administration the first anti-corruption investigation partner between the US the UK in Ukraine was into the owner of the company. Barack Obama are aware aware of it. Now and Lieutenant Colonel Vitamin you testified that you were aware that Barack Obama had questionable business dealings. That's part of its track record. That is correct. You also testified that regarding money laundering tax evasion comports with your understanding of how business is done in Ukraine is that correct. I'm not aware of specific incidents but I'm understanding is that it would not be out of out of the realm of the possible for well that's page to seven from your testimony but I'll move on. You are aware that Hunter Biden right and did sit on the board of Barista at this time are. Do you agree that Hunter Biden on the board of Barack Obama has the potential for the appearance of a conflict of interest interest. Certainly the potential and Ms Williams yes now shifting to the legal requirements that aid to Ukraine is conditioned on anti-corruption. Lieutenant attendant. Colonel von men. You testified that you understood that Congress had passed under the Ukrainian Security Assistance Initiative a legal obligation to certify that corruption is being addressed rest bettas correct and you also testified that.
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"Carson? Sean Patrick. Maloney of New York's Eighteenth Congressional district asked Lieutenant Colonel Alexander written about his opening statement when Colonel Vigne told his father not to worry about him. Because he's telling the truth worried if you were putting yourself up against the president it states is that right. He deeply worried about it because in his context there was there was the ultimate risk. And why do you have confidence that you you can do that. And you tell your dad not to worry Arnesen because this is America. This is the country I've served and defended that all of my brothers have served and here right matters. Thank you Sir joining us now is represented. Sean Patrick Maloney Democrat from New York. He's a member of the House Intelligence Committee and was obviously at today's hearing cars Maloney. That was a very a powerful section of the testimony. It's actually got a much longer bursts of applause there then we showed on the video. What made you wanNA bring bring colonel? Vitamins attention back to that statement. He made directly to his father in the opening statement. Well I just thought it was moving I you know oh I think all of us who read it Were struck by and in the in the in the hurries moments Early in a hearing. I just didn't I didn't feel it. got the attention it deserved and I just wanted to ask them about it. And and boy You know I got more than I bargained for. I mean what what he said at the end Thinking about it when he said this is America. You know I've fought for my brothers fought for it and here right matters Boy that's our challenge. Orange seems to me because because I I think that's up in the air. Frankly whether it's going to matter whether whether this is going to get through and I just feel we owe it to guys Colonel Lieutenant Colonel Vitamin To make sure he's right about that. I just want to show passage where Jim Jordan I was trying to go after the colonel's judgment and qualifications Let's take a look at how that played out so your boss had concerns about your judgment. Your former boss. Dr Hill had concerns about your judgment. Your colleagues had concerns about your judgment and your colleagues felt that there were times when you leaked information. Any idea why they have those impressions Colonel Edmund Yes represented Jordan. I guess I'll I'll start by reading. Dr Hill's own words as she she tested to in my last evaluation that was dated middle of July right before she left. Alex is a top one percent military officer and the best army officer. I've worked with in my fifteen years of government service. He's brilliant unflappable and Exercise Excellent Judgment and carbon as you. I know there's more to it that he was too modest to continue reading but best mill army officer. I've worked with in fifteen years of government. Service is about as high praise as you can get right and of course you're not selected to work on the National Security Council unless you're one of the very best everything about Lieutenant Colonel Oh been Screams excellence and not just excellence but real duty and he used that word in. Why did you report it when you knew it was wrong? Because it's my duty. He he said remember. Mr Morrison is reporting to. But he's reporting it so that they restrict access and cover it up then men went up there because he knew it was wrong and thank God. There's still guys like Lieutenant Colonel Women who know right from wrong and it's these foreign service officers and these military officers who right now are going to save our democracy carwash lose your assessment of the most important points of evidence in today's hearings While you have now direct witnesses saying we heard the president with our own ears. Jennifer Jennifer Williams said it who works for Bryce Vice President Pence. WHO's worked for a bunch of Republicans and you've got Lieutenant Colonel Vitamin saying we heard it and we knew it was wrong In some substance she said it was inappropriate and unusual. He said it was improper and reported. And then of course you've got ambassador Volker who now says. Oh if I'd only known that BEREA SMA meant the Biden's as I would have raised my own objections I would have considered it to be wrong. That's a big shift from. When he came in testified the first time and I'm glad he's cleaning cleaning that up but it aligns his testimony with the other witnesses and of course Mr Morrison who also heard the call who confirms all the key vets and question and then who by his actions demonstrated how serious he knew it was? These are all witnesses who were in the room who were directly listening to the president who were responsible for the policy. They detonate the Republican talking. Point that this is only second or third hand or hearsay this powerful testimony and to Morrison established. I the principle. I guess we could call it at this point where someone told him that the only way Ukraine is going to get the aid is if they publicly announced the investigations. Yeah no that's right. We know ambassador Sunlen who will testify tomorrow. Delivered the you know unvarnished quid pro quo To the Ukrainians in worse on September. First you don't get the aid you don't get the White House meeting unless we get specific language in a statement by the President President to CNN. They literally said that. The calls for an investigation and the Biden's ambassadors Sunland. Now is GONNA come in and testify to that. He's of course going to have also have to remember now the conversation he had That that David Holmes Overheard that he that he so famously characterized is that the president not giving an expletive about Ukraine. Only about the investigation of the Biden's Mr Sunland is very important witness. Because he's again directly speaking to the president quickly before you go Carson Ambassador Sunlen tomorrow is going to have to change his testimony again. He's changed his under oath. Testimony for your not once before. He's obviously going to have to change in relation to David. Holmes overhearing the now infamous cell phone call. Is Gordon. SAN's legal future on the line in how he testifies under oath tomorrow morning. Of course it is but then it is for every witness who testifies under oath That's to be expected. I think if if Ambassador Sunland resolves to tell the whole truth then he can come in and he won't have anything to worry about. You know none of us are out to get you know ambassador Sahlin and and none of us even wanting to say any particular thing we just want the truth. We want them to come in and tell us what he knows. It should not be this hard to get someone to talk about events. That happened just a few weeks before his first testimony and we are getting there because of the way we approach this investigation which was to not let them coordinate cordinated testimony with other witnesses to do it behind closed doors at I like any good investigator would and then to surround him with other testimony that he can not evade aid and so he has to tell the truth. I think you're going to see them. Come with the whole Truth Mall Carson. Sean Patrick Maloney and I'm sure I speak for everyone in our audience including by by the way Republicans on the committee are all very impressed with the way you use your five minutes in these hearings and we really appreciate you joining us tonight. Thank you very much. Well that's very kind but the real thanks goes to these witnesses. They've done the hard thing. Thank you and when we come back and.
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Donald Trump I'm ZAC wolf senior writer at CNN and the publisher of CNN's Impeachment Watch newsletter. which you can subscribe to due at CNN dot com slash impeachment? Today I'm pinch hitting for the regular host of this podcast David Challen and a note were recording this in the afternoon noon. So we've already heard testimony this morning from Lieutenant. Colonel Alexander Vin men from the National Security Council Jennifer Williams State Department employees on detail to Vice President Mike Pence but we're still anticipating the public hearings of Kurt Volker. He's the former special envoy for Ukraine and Tim Morrison Morrison vitamins boss at the National Security Council at the time. Luckily I have to stellar guests to help me through all the revelations emerging from this consequential day in a few minutes we'll be talking to David Sanger political and national security analyst and national security correspondent at the New York Times but I I'm joined by my colleagues CNN national security reporter Kylie Atwood. Welcome back to the PODCAST Kylie. Thanks so we've just heard from Jennifer Williams and Lieutenant Colonel Alexander van men. I think he was probably the to the more anticipated of the Witnesses but they are both people who were on the call and by the call. All I mean the call on July twenty fifth between the Ukrainian President Vladimir Zielinski and President Donald Trump. So what did you take. Take away from this morning session where we finally heard from people who listened in in real time to what president trump said the president Celeski. Yeah so they were both on the call and we now have them speaking to the public about what they heard and the bottom line is they both had concerns about what happened on that call and and as as we have all talked about repeatedly at length president trump did ask presidents lunch. Do him a favor and to investigate the Biden's on that call and so however one thing is that Jennifer Williams who works in the vice president's office Didn't actually raise her concerns to the lawyers at the National Security Council at the White House but Colonel Lieutenant Colonel Vin men who is at the NFC at the National Security Council. He said that he did raise concerns about that call and so he was a bit more full-throated in how concerned he was about what had went down He called it inappropriate and improper improper for the president to making a request for Ukraine to investigate a US citizen that being a President Vice President Biden at the time but He also said however that you know there were political implications with the ask that was being made and there were concerns at the White House about leaking out Just because of how political in nature it would be viewed. And I think it's important to know the Jennifer Williams She also thought thought that the call had political undertones to it because of the nature that president trump was asking about something that had to do with his political rival and not something that was consistent with. US policy towards Ukraine. But she didn't raise any concerns about it whatsoever really. She said she thought it was unusual. That there was this political so You know politicalness underneath it. But she didn't like then went to the National Security Council. Lawyer she basically Put it into a binder To give depends before he was gonna meet with Zielinski and that would that was about it. Yeah and she couldn't even say if the vice president had seen Those notes that she put into the binder. She wasn't aware aware of that. But as I said Lieutenant Colonel Vin men Went even further and he said that it was actually something that would be viewed as a demand by hi the Ukrainians and he was pushed on that because the language that the That president trump uses in the calls that he's asking for a favor and so they asked Lieutenant Colonel Vitamin why he would see it as a demand and that's when he spoke about kind of power disparity between trump and Zilenski and he also spoke about the fact that in military culture when a senior asks you to do something it's taken as in order and that was his interpretation Shen of the ask that vice that president trump was making a presence Lonski. This is a really good point and we have so we can. We can play a little sound of him Driving this point I went home. I think it's important to hear him say chairman culture. I come from the military culture when a senior asks you to do something even if it's play in pleasant it's it's not. It's not to be taking as request. It's B it's to be taken an order in this case the power disparity between the two leaders. My impression is that in order to get the White House meeting presidents alinsky would have to deliver. Are these investigations. This is a military guy. Donald Trump is not a military guy. You could sort of hear the wheels turning and Republicans heads maybe commander and chief. You sure he's the community. Ah but a civilian and so when he has ruined Donald Trump asked for a favor. Maybe he means it maybe he doesn't. This isn't pressure is at the end of the story and the Republicans did actually bring up that exact point you know they. They asked Vitamin is it appropriate to cast this expectation on president trump. Because he hasn't served served in the military and vitamin didn't have an exact response for that but he stood by his assessment. And that's really important here and the other thing that Vinnie Vinnie did was paint this picture for us of a moment at the White House in July when July tenth. That's right when the US ambassador to the U.. Gordon Sunland came out to Ukrainians and asked for specific investigations at the White House and it was a really incredible incredible moment to hear him describe because he talked about Ukrainian officials seeing discord among White House officials. Now it's no secret to you and I to to anyone who has covered a White House that there's always discord competition amongst. US officials to see that on display in front of the Ukrainians was really something something that was very very significant especially for vitamin and he also disagreed with what ambassador saw lynn was asking of the Ukrainians Dan and he told Ambassador Song then he told lawmakers this today that Ambassador Song that he told him bathroom stall and it was inappropriate and that his asks had nothing to to do with national security. We've now heard a couple of different You know versions of this July tenth meeting. It's turning out to be one of the more important moments and I it will be really interesting to see what Gordon Sunland says when he gets his turn To talk on Wednesday for so many reasons but this is one of them okay Kylie. We're just scratching the surface here. We've got a lot more to discuss. Plus we'll bring in Pulitzer Prize winner. David Sanger but first this quick break.
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"The weekend and I just wanted to read to you. The operative line of what he said about colonel of Inman and he says of vitamin quote. I had concerns about lieutenant colonel. Vitamins Vince. Judgment and Fiona Hill and others had raised concerns about Alex's judgment. It obviously is a crucial witness for Democrats. Does this give you pause. No not at all. I had the opportunity to see lieutenant. Colonel Vitamin testify. The American people will have the same opportunity this week. This is a man who has served his country. Extraordinary ways A decorated military officer someone who is credible able and trustworthy who provided very very important evidence during the course of his deposition. The American people will see that. I think there has been an effort by some of my Republican colleagues Alex to attack this war hero. I think it's disgraceful. This is a man who has served his country who had the courage to come forward when he saw something that was wrong and reported it. We should remember number. Ukraine is a country that was under attack. An Act of war with the Russians military agent United States was really their lifeline and the president United States held up until really could get a promise for a meeting and promised to open a phony investigation. This is deadly serious. Colonel Goodman is an extraordinary witness and I think the American people will find him very credible. Thank you very much congressman Cellini. I appreciate your time tonight and next breaking news. Republicans the quote from the reporting tonight shaken by State Department aides testimony that he heard trump directly hurt his voice asking about investigations in Ukraine. That aid now scheduled to testify publicly. That late breaking news tonight plus new questions about President. Trump's health is evening. Is the White House hiding something. President Obama's former doctor is out front. We'll travel to a state. 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Adding that presidents Alinsky will do quote anything you ask him to now. That was behind closed doors. And that's the latest. We heard until tonight when Democrats have just announced moments ago. That home will be testifying publicly. And that will be on Thursday of this week back out front now former Nixon White House counsel John Dean CNN special correspondent. Jamie Gan Gallon David Urban and advisor to President Trump's twenty twenty campaign and in Washington in corporate lobbyists. Jamie let me start with you. This is your reporting. A shaken is the word that you are using of how some Republicans feel about David Holmes testimony. What exactly are you hearing so so? This is a reporting also with my colleague. Kristen Holmes and what we're hearing is according to one congressional GOP source several GOP lawmakers were quote more shaken by David Holmes testimony than that they have publicly let on that behind enclosed doors. They expressed a lot of frustration about sunland testimony in light of what David Home said. And that we're also hearing during that they're now very worried about sunland testimony. We've been told by multiple sources that he was ill fitted fitted to being a diplomat that multiple sources in the diplomatic community thought that he was in over his head and they're really worried about what is going to say on Wednesday and how far he will go. I mean look this is obviously silence. Testimony is now going to be crucial. I mean you know David Look some Republicans you heard Jamie talking about this. You know say homes has made the most convincing argument yet and and and obviously a big part of that is that he heard trump's voices that's what he testified under oath. You heard trump's voice through the phone because it was so loud. The Gordon Sunland had to take it away from his ear and he was able the very clearly here the president of the United States. So in that case it's not hearsay. That takes away that argument. How how big of a deal could homes testimony be? So let's ask what is home. What point is homes making right so hold her? This is the day after the twenty fifth. Call this is the twenty sixth. He's listening to the one one end one end of the call and he says he hears the president say so they're gonNa GonNa do the investigations. That's what that's what he's alleged. Testimony is so. I'm not quite sure what whatsoever shattering about that. That's been reported. You Know He. He heard it in in a cafe is okay. Let's assume that hearing was correct. I still don't see what's groundbreaking about that or is the cost of all this breathless reported. So so you know. Just make the simple point. I don't know David What you've been saying. But many Republicans have been saying it's hearsay. No one had heard the United States. Say It's so homes. Obviously if indeed he heard heard what he says he heard It's no longer say. That's the president of the United States. So John On that point for Gordon but Gordon Song says too. Doesn't he gordon. While Gordon Silent is going I want to ask ask you about that. Because he is going to testify publicly and he's obviously changed his testimony. Originally there was no quid pro quo and and then there was John There's in-home testimony And again this is the part that's been publicly released because we did get the opening statement. He said quote I asked him buster Sunland if it was true that the president did not give a blank about Ukraine ambassador sunland inland degree that the president did not give a blank about Ukraine. I asked why not ambassador. sunlen stated the president only cares about quote big stuff. I noted that there was quote. Big stuff going on in Ukraine rain like a war with Russia and ambassador Sunland reply but he meant quote big stuff that benefits the president like the quote Biden investigation. That Mr Giuliani Liane was pushing So poems is not going to testify to this publicly. How significant do you think that will be John but this is going to be public that we can hear it not just read it? I think there are a couple.