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26 - Round 2 Blazers v Denver
"All right, everybody. Thanks for joining me again for another episode of the lumpy show this week. We're going to continue the blazer post-game reactions. I didn't get to do one for game. One had some other prior priorities that need to take care of. And there was just no time to get it done. So I'm gonna hit on that just a little bit today. And then just jump into. What was the not the most exciting game too? But I guess close thrilling game too. So thanks for listening and stay tuned. All right. So quick recap of game on between Denver and Portland. You know as a fun game to watch exciting scoring the not. I mean there was defense played. But it didn't seem like it at times both team shot over fifty percents. Almost a right around the forty percent for the three point line. The the key to the game was Yokich. The blazers did not have an answer for Yokich and game on. Was like thirty seven and nine in six assists. And they play that pick and roll game with the Murray and between the two of them add sixty points out of the one hundred twenty one points scored that night with Millsap coming in for a little bit more and the blazers just couldn't. The game plan for for for game on was not to attack the pick and roll and double Yokich whenever he got the ball. The did that much better than game to which we'll get into here. More in just a second. But they just cancer was point. So far off a Yokich on that the pick and roll that either Murray would split it drive down the lane one foot runner or Yokich was doing that. With what runner, you know, the only took five three pointers. Had twelve free throws because he kept getting all the calls, but he easy shots essentially drive down the lane or picking it passing it to one of the guys for shooting the three year pick and roll. So they they played good game. And they didn't miss a shot and the blazers didn't really get anything catcher. Correct myself cancer had twenty six points. He played really well from an offensive point Dame had one of the quieter thirty nine point games you'll ever see the just couldn't get over the hump of of scoring after the third quarter. It was always a close game. But you just didn't get that feel for the boys is we're gonna come back and take it from the nuggets much like the reverse of tonight's game. For game two. The blazers. The gotta get you know, a little bit more out of some people. Rodney hood had a really good game in game one dropped in seventeen points. But it's like it was four people scoring and a lot of times, I guess that can work the blazers don't get anything other than the litter and McCollum for the most part not every game. But a lot of the games and that workload blazers aren't gonna win a series. If they can't get some some play from the other guys off the bench. They weren't playing bad, but they just weren't giving enough in that game. And then Denver just miss forty one percent from three point and fifty fifty percent from from the field. And it was just one of those games. Lot of it was changed game too. So that's not much much more to say about game on other than the the blazers just needed a little bit more defense. There was not much defense. Played by anyone. And especially from the blazers where they Yokich and Murray can just do whatever was needed. So we'll skip ahead to game to here. All right. So in game two the blazers pulled it off ninety seven to ninety and they got contributions from everyone off the bench played a much better defensive game. Except for rebounding. I think they neutralized Yokich. I'll bet for a couple of minutes in the fourth quarter from an offensive standpoint they were going they were attacking him as soon as the ball went on the grounds and sending a double and playing different players than cancer on Yokich. A lot of the time not all the time that 'cause it real job on the defensive end. I thought as far as trying to slow him down a bit. Cancer do bad. He's just not a good defensive player for the most part maple just a little bit here and there, but he is he's an office of player. So you get what you get on the defense, especially with nurture out. But they they neutralize that Murray. Pick and roll with Yokich that they could not stop for nothing in game two or game on. I'm sorry. So that was cool seeing you can see it right away. Blazers were up by seventeen at one point. I think either it was in the second quarter late or early in the third quarter, and it kind of hung out for the most part around that fifteen to ten point land for minute. They're down to six but other than completely destroying Portland from an offensive rebound point of view. Just as I stated earlier in the podcast game. One blazers were always hanging there. But he didn't feel like they're going to come back and win in this case. You didn't feel Denver was gonna come back around because they can shoot for nothing. They were thirty four point seven percent that made Oklahoma City, look good. Look like, they tried to fashion the game after Westbrook will just the brick show that was going on twenty percent from three. But the reason they stayed in the game is twenty Twenty-three offensive rebounds, two seven against the blazers and he would say with twenty three rebounds. Probably weren't a ton of rebounds for the buzzer to be had. But they still outreach about them forty defensive rebounds to thirty five that tells you how many how bad Denver was on the offensive end tonight. And from the free throw line. Denver was awful sixty one percent. What kept them in the line is the players could not get a defensive rebound. Like, I said they had forty but they can get the offense of rebound or defensive rebound story in the fourth quarter. End of the third into the fourth every bounce off the rim. Ended up in Denver player hand there were just attacking rebounds. A because once again, they knew they were missing everything, but Portland was just not imposition to get the rebounds. It wasn't that they weren't trying to get to just weren't as fast to react and go grab that ball. But you know, the held on for seven point, and and I'm thankful for that. It was on a night where Dame just couldn't get going. They put they switched a little bit. That is which up Cray got her broke his nose. It was cut a bit because he'd been kind of the guy put on Dame, which is funny because he tortured for thirty nine. He was hampering them a little bit today and Dame kinda get going. He finished with fourteen points five or seventeen miserable from the three point line. Just get going. You know, he's a lot of you know, potential fouls that weren't being called on Dame strives some of them he was just trying to get to call the wraps a little bit. But you have to do especially if you're star player, but he just see he was out of rhythm to that on the shooting. And you know, that's the first time this playoff series this platform. I think he's been that bad from the from the line. He played so solid game. Saw defense everything else leading the team. Of course, even. Jay was the leading score only at twenty with the the low scoring game. He. He was all right. You know, nothing spectacular. Get some big points from amino Collins Rodney had played another good game. He's he's looking like the player the blazers needed when they traded form in this series. A lot more than what was coming out of the o'casey series. Even J J Lehman got in and played a few minutes with heartless wrenching his ankle. Pre rough looking spill Yod Avent heard anything new about game game three on Friday, but Lehman command because I instead of playing someone else or switching it up start usually likes to keep the rotation going for the second team. And so he put Lehman in their first action the plops in one of the blowouts. He was. It was a minus five for the six minutes. He was there. He was up in Murray's face and point tough divas on them. So I actually thought that was pretty good of so for my money. It was a good all around game by the blazers. Nothing spectacular solid. Very good defense can get a rebound on the defensive end and that third into the fourth quarter for nothing. And that's what kept kept Denver close. And some some question, you know, not the best shooting tonight for both teams was really bad. But not the best. We'll see what comes up and game. Three. See how Denver counters the way Portland played defense on their picking role game. Like, you said earlier, I was really impressed with how they attack that changing it up and throwing something different. Look like Jim Murray has got a wicked Charlie horsey. You know, he he kept going hung in there. But you could. See in that fourth quarter. He could not move. So I'm curious to see how that goes for the next next game. Yokich joke each I liked that players gave. But he's now that we're in the playoffs and you see play back to back games. He's he's kind of getting on my nerves. He should've fouled out refs. Let them get out of it not on purpose. I think that just missed it. But it was it was a clear foul on the Collins. I believe when it came across his arms that guy's pretty funny. He. Looks out of shape. He looks like he goes to the the Felton Rafe Elton. School of conditioning for basketball, but he gets you can see all winded as out of shape as far as most NBA players, but he can barely jump over a piece of paper. But he's he can pass. He's his badge ical on the passing. You reminds me a lot of for big guy the way he passes lot like our visa bonus. Especially when the bonus was before he came to the NBA in his Europe days. He could just see the court and make those passes that in those days, like Magic Johnson was the only one was making those days shows, you how old I but. Could just read the court make those passes to the guys in and Yokich do that. And you can see why they didn't need Nurkic anymore and with that trade department and Portland's better off for for that trae too. But yoke edge Yokich had just a so-so gave I mean damn near triple double Bill, only sixteen fourteen seven and gotten foul trouble. And because of the boys defense can get get rolling like the kid, and they don't get a lot. I mean, they're Bence plays. Good. But they don't get a lot from them. Offensively. Beasley Morris Plumlee in Barton. Are the only ones I play. They just don't get a ton. I mean, I don't know why they don't play as as Thomas. That's an interesting one. I don't know if he just can't play with the hip. I almost forget it was on the team and the box score. Do think that that guy kid come off and light up some offense a little bit thing. Post up all day down the defensive end. But you would think. He could come in and give you some offense for little bit. But they don't get a ton of from anyone else from what I've seen this. I e games. Besides paul. You know, the starters, Paul Millsap, and Yokich and marine and Harris, it's been a fun. Little it's been a fun star to serious lot less. Contentious except for the end of the game. Who in Yokich actually, shoved cancer and stumbled and then ran into Craig broken his nose early in the game. And then some of his teammates studied Kanter did something palm purpose for something. And so they came to Kane kinda came to his defense. There are some John a couple of tech and close. Nothing crazy today was not evidence of it. But these guys are gonna be playing more of a free flowing ofensive type series. And I think it's gonna go six I think the boys IRS, hopefully, come back and take the next two at home. He's been playing really well there and then go back, you know, finish it out here in game six in Portland. Get to the Western Conference final for. I think for the first time since two thousand I think that's a legit reality. So we'll see how it goes a long ways long ways to play some players definitely got to step up for both teams blazers need that third score besides cancer, in my opinion. They need Rodney hood to keep playing the way is and and play that defense. And it'll be exciting. I think they'll take it. So I appreciate you guys listening to him as always we keep growing this thing. So share if you like it share it, and it won't always be blazer Centric. So thanks for listening piece.
Damian Lillard, Sixers Sadness, and What to Do With Denver | Group Chat
"EVERYBODY LOVES GAME SHOWS EVERYBODY HAS A podcast I've got both everybody. I'm Kyle grants in my new show. Ten questions is a game show talk show athletes movie stars everybody will come on not just to talk they come on this show to compete ten questions whether they know it or not are somehow inspired by a moment in their life or their career ten questions. Ten points so much fun head over to spotify and please subscribe to ten questions with Kyle. Brands. Basketball is very alone welcome to group the ringers weekly NBA Group discussion where we talk about everything from Mario his own to headbutts. I'm your host Justin Barrier and joining me today Rob Mahoney. WHAT'S UP ROB? Not a lot doing great. I. Want you both to know you're both on my all NBA teams game presented by Keough. also joining US Jonathan Sharks, how you doing? Steve Back on production we actually say hello to Stephen this time we missed you I'm buddy Today, we're going to get into a couple things here. We're going to bring on Chris Ryan to talk about six or sadness I. Guess is the best way to describe it, which is something that Chris knows very well we're going to get into the nuggets in the back end of the podcasts go a little bit of a deep dive with some of charges lineup dead but I want to talk about Damian Lillard. Guys saw last night, but it seems like Damian Lillard is a Golden God. So, sixty one points last night. On the heels of a fifty point game the so they're they're doing this bubble. VP, thing as rob alluded to up top in addition to an all bubble team, which is basically awards for the past two weeks of seating games. So Lillard has clearly one bubble and the If you had any doubts about that, I think last night pretty much. So that up here's my question to you guys if we were to include the bubble games in the awards big picture. Balloting which they're not doing but I wish they had would Lillard have a case for MVP along with Jaanus and Lebron I mean do MVP's ever go to eight seeds right? Like I don't know we have to change the rules of voting right in terms of the unwritten rules how these things go it's tough because he's been so good and you don't WanNa take anything away from how just how well Lillard has played these games and how important those games have been. But I would have a hard time personally even putting aside Johnson Lebron I don't even know what the argument would be for Lillard over James Harden for example, I think there's a couple of their candidates who would still be in his way and alerted probably I bet you'd get on more ballots if the if they were turned in after the seating games about these, really cracking that top two interesting. So you wouldn't even put him third right now I wouldn't I mean harden to me scores more assists about the same is. A clear cut above in every one number metric out there his team is twelve games better. I mean to me he. He does so much of what Lillard does but more effectively if we're talking about hardened specifically and that's not even if you know you could get into Luca in this conversation or Anthony Davis in this conversation as well. Lillard is Great I. Think he is well worthy of consideration for the ballot I just don't have quite at that level I guess I'll go deep cut here I think the question. would. Be In a hypothetical world where they still had all season Nurkic Collins Rodney Hood. If they had their team all year that team of Dame Cj Hood Calms Nurk that prions like fifty fifty, five games. Okay. Now years case sermon. BP. But MVP, team on an individual award you got win a lot of games when this war how it is yeah it's a tough ask I bring this up more as a discussion than than really escaping for for Lord for the Award Janas Lebron have both one almost twenty more games. than. The players are this way. So the case that you'd have to make for Dame would have to be the Russ case, right? I. Know We look back on derisively pretty much almost as as the moment when the NBA media just like really lost his way when we voted for US MVP over James Harden. But I just look back at the season in risk saying signature moments. If we're saying stories that defined the season Russ excuse me not only had that six game stretch where he had almost fifty points a game but now he has this. I don't know I think he's very clearly third. If I were to do a ballot today I, think what he's done considering the obstacles put in front of him in Portland considering all the progress that he's made his statistical resume is in all that worse than some of the top guys, I, just I just think. That, he has a case if not the best case I know where is Justin you're putting respect on his name Yeah I I don't know where this is coming from where we're guys are just making things up now to be upset about it seems like there's so. Be Coming from DC. Place in the world where these kinds of magic sleights, major news stories. That's so weird. I don't know I've never logged on before I've never participated in it at all. But it is weird though like it just seems like maybe there's not enough to do in the bubble that we're just like coming up with Straw man arguments for like the little best players in the world to really have something to really motivate themselves against But I will say this the blazers have dealt with significant obstacles not only the ones you mentioned earlier in the season all of a sudden last night after Dame's market performance I was reported out by White James that apparently CJ mccollum has a broken lower back or like. Fractured Vertebrae, something like that which sounds really tough. And he's been playing with us for the past three games. It just to me makes this lower performance, all the more interesting way and makes I think CJ is performance pretty gutsy to like. As soon as that report came out I immediately thought back to there was a sequence in the fourth quarter against the mavs where he ended up on committing. A couple of fouls on guys who are driving and hit the floor pretty hard as a result and my head I was thinking like Portland really needs to start asa fouling. But in retrospect I'm like Oh my God cj mccollum just falling over and over on his broken back and still came up, you know hit some pretty important shots for them so. You know that's You know long term health impacts of that. Aside, I don't know what the you know. The ramifications are playing with a broken back. I think pretty admirable thing. If nothing else that he's been able to play as well as he has cj, it does feel very sexist affi in like they're moving heaven and earth to play Lebron A in round one like man. Yeah they're really treating the seating games almost as if it is a playoff and maybe that's what needed to be done. Maybe like other teams that are in this race, the spurs the grizzlies maybe they should be writing those guys but I look at the minutes and they are adding up you're playing pretty much forty minutes a game, every night and he's on like seven games over two weeks. So this is a condensed period which so I I bet he's feeling those more CJ also playing a ton of minutes while on. This broken back, they pretty much trimmed the rotation to eight guys Marianas sometimes plays sometimes doesn't is the blazers have really gone for this and they will ultimately probably get in just based on the way things are looking right now they they have really good odds in. The ring restart odds I believe they in the grizzlies have the pod to play in the playing game this weekend. But I don't know I. Don't I don't know if there is a cost I guess, would it be worth it? If long-term, this becomes an issue. I think there is a cost, even short term. I mean, we're talking about Portland just being on complete overdrive right now, if they make it to that one eight matchup, whatever you know how much energy they have left is an open question but that's the cost you pay like these. The every game right now is essential for them. They're treating it that way Terry stotts certainly, as you mentioned with his rotation and low and mccollum in terms, the weather all these guys Nurkic again let's put some more respect on on Mello's name as well. He's had a good couple games here. These are these are games they can't afford to give away and long-term. You had that conversation I'm sure that the medical staff is agonizing over whatever it is. Condition is more specifically. But when we're looking at this season is the next game is all this quickly before we flip to the sons here because they deserve just as much recognition here they deserve as much respect on their name I want to talk about the mavs briefly. So they were on the losing end of this blazers game crunch time has become a bit of a big. For the mavs as we've gone along the season at first I thought it was more just Luca Danjus playing through some. Some of his erotic tendencies is kind of just like the Luca experience right if you want him to make these exhilarating between the legs dimes and you also need him to throw a pass every now and then kind of the the Steve Nash Corollary I guess but as we've gone along this. has become a bit of a trend and so last night we saw this plow I guess it's a little bit more on the fluky side because the two plays the ended up doing the men were both charge calls one two KRISTAPS Porzingis one to lose the game with Trey Burke but John you're you're around this team a lot during in the season when we could actually be around other humans are. You concerned at all as we turn the page to the playoffs about the mavs I mean concern the sense like are they GonNa win a championship now I mean they ate is beat the bucks overtime on. Saturday right I feel like clutch performances and kind of go up and down. One thing I was actually interested in hearing y'all's opinion about right before this podcast I, was talking to a fun office guy for. One of our teams in the race for the seed and he was telling me like he's watching KP drop pick and rolls on dame losing his mind. He's like this is a guaranteed loss. PORZINGAS cannot guard dame they got Shane something up and I was like that's try. I. Don't she even do like how the mavs US porzingas when Dame is plan like that I think that's a big question for them going forward. I mean. That's the thing with Dallas too. Is that not only do they have issues defending big wings like every other team in the League essentially does you know the Lebron collide types but defending guards is difficulty for them? Especially, I mean Lillard is challenging for everybody. But KRISTAPS PORZINGIS is not bad defensive player. He just suited to a different space on the floor and when you string him out that far. That to me is why Dallas kind of blew that game and why I think they're crunching performance in that game specifically isn't really indicative of their crunch time problems more generally because this was just a total loss at defending Damian Lillard. You know I think they probably eased into it think trying the drop to see what they could get away with on the chance that their offense was good enough that. They could get enough stops elsewhere. Let's not tax kp any more than we have to, and then it ended up where lily riches pouring it on. So frequently and with so much force that he had to show up a little bit more and still was getting driven around the traffic cone. So it definitely puts them of Dallas's long-term issues in perspective because once you get into actual playoff series that matter. Guys'll him. We're going to be singled out. Luca's going to be challenged in ways. He hasn't been challenged before we see it to the best done to the best players in the world. So why not them? Yeah. That's what the playoffs are going to be. So interesting for the mavs I think kristaps has done at least on the offensive end I thought like a spectacular job in these eating games his shot looks better than perhaps it ever has. It just seems like every. Time. He takes. It looks like it's going to go in but John, you've written about this a lot just like whether or not Chris Stops long-term is the best partner for Luca because on on one hand, he is a big and you provide space for him and an is able to protect the rim on the other end on the other side. Do you really need simply just in a stretch big as his number two option where you fall on that kind of spectrum Is. KP, in terms of rim protection and I think with Luca having a guy who can score very quickly as huge. If you look at like the touches numbers Lucas like holding the ball the most entirely in the bubble by a mile. So you have a guy who's willing to play off Luca and let him do his thing and Kinda score very quickly. My father KP was this in those situations what about putting him on like Gary Trent. So the idea would be if the garden the big man right, Sanjeev. Gary, Trent setting. The screen on Dame's defender Gary Translate six five right. So you put a big wing on dame like like finishing through six foot eight. It's hard from the get around the screen than if it's nervous setting the screen. So basically like take away the pick and roll the best screener for Dame, by putting KP in one of the shooters and then seeing what happens I think it does a good job of. Of Dame's hands a little bit but the alternative in that case is running Gary Trent. The best shooter to ever live off down with kristaps porzingis having to chase does throw great about that either the because causes competition to Gary Trent Junior. If it isn't his teammate Damian Lillard, it's Devon Booker. That was my attempt at a transition was not bad I liked it. All Right Devon Booker obviously probably one of the bigger shining stars of this bubble situation whatever you WANNA call it remember when we called it a campus environment. And that was the thing the NBA tried to push. It's kind of like when someone tries to give themself a nickname like when Katie wind to become what was it it was service. The sermon and everyone's like no. That's pretty much what the bubble is at this point but Devon Booker having just a breakthrough performance we talked about him a little bit last week but I think he's been even better over the past few games as the sons continue to win games they have not yet lost and I don't know if they'll lose next game because it seems like every single team left on the docket. For Thursday is going to sit every good player. So we'll see about that but I thought it was interesting last game against the sixers who were not playing a lot of players with whom they knew normally play. Kyle Quinn Triple Double Watch was pretty much the most interesting thing going on in Philly. We'll get to that later in the episode Chris Little Bit but I thought the divine had a really good point Dan Ringer staffer He said that booker was doing a bunch of star stuff in the midst of the game in what he meant by that was he was manufacturing points when the sun's needed points is getting guys involved when they needed to get involved eight and was kind of slumping around wasn't as active in the. Offense, he would try to pass it to him stuff like that I. think that is the difference between booker a year ago and booker now seems like he's evolving into this all round player who you can really play through and I don't know if sons are gonNA get or not. But to me, that's super encouraging just going forward. Well, that's the thing you can only get from these kinds of games right? You can put Devon Booker in. Indianapolis in January in a in a somewhat close game, and that game looks however looks but to have games with these stakes, were you put you're putting your best player in that position that I mean that's what this whole situation was supposed to be about for the Sunday show up learn a lot compete hard take the most out of this bubble experience you can and go home. Happy. It just turns out that that comes with also competing for a playoff spot, which has just been a miraculous turn of events and. Really. As a tribute to the broader success of their team I think Yarmulke deep cut here I think worth giving this guy shot out. I. Feel like we talked about booker last week he's a great player for a long time it just a supporting cast has been improved this season and this number is is insane. So the Great Cameron Payne Julie Castoff played for like eight teams his net rating in the bubble is plus twenty two and on the floor, the sons are only plus four. So apparently, campaign has become like the best point guard of all time. Well, let's let's talk about the bench because you know this isn't a sexy reason why the sons have. Been Good the bench was just a complete disaster, all season and all of a sudden the combination of Cam Dario Saroj, von Carter, some Frank Kaminsky in there, and then you know throw in a start or two to kind of fill out those lineups has been all of a sudden really viable and that's without Kelly Oubre, Aron Baynes this is you know basically bench line at that should have been and could have been left for dead if we assume the regular standards of the regular season and yet they've been able to turn out winning margins for the sons in games that really matter can you guys tell me where campaign was a year ago today see in China I'm losing track of him after Chicago Yeah I think most people did start in January two, thousand, nineteen signed a ten day contract with the Cleveland Cavaliers and on July he signed contract with the raptors this must have been for summer league I guess yeah. I think this is just a summer contract then he ends up in China then in January he was with the Texas legends and then on June thirtieth he signed a deal with the Phoenix Suns Campaign. Has Been around the world but he is back. I completely agree with you. It is so funny how everything just seems to fit with Phoenix, which is particularly surprising considering the off season that they had going into this. They gave away TJ Warren for cash as we all know now and Tj Warren is clearly Michael Jordan successor. So that seemed like it just go well for them. They brought on Ricky Rubio a move. I didn't like particularly because they had made a lot of noise about wanting to empower devon booker as some sort of like harden southwest and it seemed like they were quickly scrapping. That plan is seemed like all of a sudden. This is an the sons. Pretty much what they do at right. They just change things on the fly one day they have three point guards in next they had zero but I'm looking around this team now and it seems like everybody fits a role in a way that even a team like the Sixers, for instance, dozen and I think that's a credit to I. Guess It's The coaching staff that they've. Managed to take all of these draft picks over the past couple of years and really his allow a product. An actual team I think it's it signifies kind of a pivot from having needs optionality all of a sudden you get to choose whether you want to start Kelly. Oubre Cam Johnson. You get to choose whether you want to run the ball through booker or Rubio you have. So, much more flexibility in how you build your lineups, how you run your stuff from quarter to quarter I mean that's what makes teams good. It's not rocket science to have that kind of luxury and yet it just took Phoenix so long to get to this point. So I'm actually talking about this for a piece on Thursday and like going back on Robson optionality, there's two really big trades they made on draft night. So we'll talk about this with the Philly conversation. Later, this number one, they trade Zaire Smith from Kale Bridges Number two they trade Jerry Colour for Cam. Johnson. So in both trades, they're taking kind of a smaller more athletic multidimensional wing. They're moving him for a longer bigger shooter. It's like sometimes it's. Not, that complicated easy I'd Devon, booker you need three guys around him. They made those traits happen, and now we're seeing the results without those trades. This team is not very good and you know like you have a star, you get guys you can shoot threes can play defense you get enough of those guys aren't good player Stock Booker you're gonNA. Have a good team. They figured it out. It shouldn't be hard better kind is sometimes now they're they're winning. Yeah usually, Dario searches seems like old Dario now, even though as he's like guarding people on the perimeter, it kind of looks like he's riding a surfboard. Watching. Move laterally is they are just everything. But the flopping really does the to know I was watching them and this team reminds me of the Pelicans in Monty. Last year with that team in two thousand. Fourteen fifteen. Th the connection Damani is is pretty clear. But they just seems like just working in ways that you didn't necessarily expect. It seems like you look at the team on paper and you squint hard like I. Don't really know if this team really works that Pelican seem had tyreek Evans and your holiday share in the ball and it's like maybe I don't know drew was in not a lineup with injuries. Eighty was still kind of rising to prominence and it just seems like this is what they have here where booker seems to be taking that next step A. Little bit doing those little things that he needs to do while a lot of the other guys are maybe playing above their head at this point maybe just falling into the right Specific Role I. Guess my question from there is though, will they have a comedown just like that Pelicans team did because I do think as the Pelicans looked around they started to realize some of these pieces don't fit as well. Injuries definitely said an and really took them down Quincy pond ex I don't think played a get no he. He had a run with the spurs like a couple years later, but he was out of the League for a while Quincy Pond extra talk on this pot I. Love it listen. So obviously, I covered the Pelicans for two years and anytime time could Alvin gentry would mention that they did not have a small forward since Quincy Pond Dexter went down and he's right but on the other hand good. God I heard about Quincy Pond are so much. But no, it's just I do wonder if this is fleeting I wonder. If this is the type of thing where you expect them to carry it into next season because that's the trajectory of young teams right or if this is just a nice moment in next year, we'll be back in the same place where Devon Booker may not be happy or at the very least draymond green doesn't think that he's happy. There is a possibility here that the sons don't win one hundred percent of their games. Next season I think that's something we need to at least embrace right now as a possibility. To, your to your point about Monte I mean I listened to you know De'andre and was on. Adrian Watson Rescues podcast great interview and I think really highlighted money Williams as the voice that this team needed right now it's it sounded like from talking about his suspension from what he went through this season that having Monica's a little bit and also you know be there as a know someone to bounce things off of to listen to not always chew him out when he expects him to chew him out. There was just a really a. Really fine line that he walked with this young team. You know there can be really good coaches who come to a team at the wrong time. It just doesn't work for variety of reasons there can be really good coaches who over a long enough stretch their plays just start to tune them out. I think what separates this from that New Orleans group one they're younger to the healthy you mentioned Justin is just huge. I mean that New Orleans team was just undercut time and time again by injuries but also I really he new Orleans. Now, that would never happen there but it really just does seem like Williams might be the right kind of motivator for this group at a time when there had so much instability in terms of their coaching having that kind of steady voice could go a really long way. Yet. Funny to about new, Orleans in like with lock and injuries like Yuka, this team Kelly oubre towards meniscus in like February, and they kinda started slipping until Cam Johnson came in form the margin for error is so small in the West you've gotTa have five, six, seven, eight good players, and if one of those guys goes down the whole structure kind of collapses, right? So looking back on it. So Phoenix like we can all kind of agree they probably taken Luca one or Jaren Jackson. So he didn't do they didn't get that part right so that means they have to get everything else right to make up. For that and it's like it's just everything else right. It's hard to get five six seven good players on at the same time and good roles right now, this next works. But if British heard next year booker, you know springs ankle for a month and a half they missed the playoffs it all falls apart that fast I want to defend eight and a little bit there because I think while you're right I think Jackson and Luca, will turn out to be better players. This wasn't a wasted pick. This wasn't a blown pick like this is a situation the sons can build and recover from in that sense and. Aden to our point about the suns having all these options I think facilitates that just by being I think more versatile than he was given credit especially at draft time. That's true. I'm just saying in terms of if you have Jackson Luca plus booker that's two top ten players when you have two top ten players then you've got a lot of flexibility things can go wrong there's there's more margin for error that's kind of what I was going for their. Yeah. How Sons Consolation Prize from that draft is that they're now last on the list of being derided amongst the teams who passed on Luca Danni it's. Just like yeah. trae young and then and then obviously kings the top of that list. But I agree, I think eight and has shown something in these in these seating games I know I was a little critical of him and I still agree with what I said last week in sometimes he could just float around but I've been surprised that what he's on the defensive end he's been a lot better there and also his shot just looks way better than I ever expected to. It just looks it looks perfect when it comes out of his hand and you think it's GonNa it's GonNa make it every single time. But yeah to your point earlier about Mani I. think that was spot on just because I wasn't there for Mani when he coached the Pelicans but everything you heard from a heard about him from those Pelicans players is that they all loved him that he got them to buy in. But. On the flip side of that was they fired him specifically to take the next step. So I know I don't know history's going to repeat itself or if these are the right players for for what he wants to do Let's look ahead just really quickly here before we get to the sixers So Thursday pretty much is going to decide the west play and race fourteen or are pretty much still in this. Unfortunately, not the Pelicans and the Kings we don't know what's going to happen it seems like it may come down to whether or not people play their best players somehow it seems like the toughest game on the schedule on. Thursday is now the nets. Only because we know that they're gonNA try the hardest but which teams do you guys want to see at the end of the day in the playoff race in this plane race this weekend I mean it's got to be sons Blazers right way those two teams are playing a dame dame booker shootout at pretty awesome. Yeah. The Blazers are ultimately going to get through one way or another and kind of the way it should be just in terms of entertainment value in a potential first round series you know putting the best player on the floor but I'm I'm really looking forward to these playing games I mean just from a perspective of something we've never seen from the NBA. Having that much writing on a single game where you can't make game to game adjustments at least for the first crack. That's GONNA. Be a good ride. Yeah. I'm the same I definitely want to see the sons run continue. It would be really heartbreaking if they won every single game in front of them in the bubble and then had to go home when she's like. A word. It, sounds like after the final game, they have to pack up immediately and leave the bubble area. So imagine just like having the champagne bath and then getting on the plane while you're still soaking in this eight, no run that'd be pretty bad and so just as a quick refresher, a crams Akram's playoff odds on our site which check out the update every day he has the trailblazers and the grizzlies as the most likely pairing at Thirty Percent Blazers and suns at twenty percent, which is actually lower than I expected. So maybe there's some hope there we're gonNA take a quick break and bring in Chris Ryan talk about sixers. All right we're back rob. Myself. And we are joined with the special guests here. Anytime anything happens with the sixers. We need to go to the experts fleet to go to the heart of Philly. So why we brought on Chris Ryan Chris, how're you doing man this look suspiciously like an intervention? Kind of is I mean, that's kind of my first question. I think everyone listening is probably up-to-date at this point things are not going particularly well for the Philadelphia Seventy sixers I believe they started. Kyle. Quinn. And a couple of other deep reserves yesterday though they did push the sons pretty admirably but overall and bead will be back soon we think but Ben Simmons not so much how you doing man to just give us the. Straight from the heartache can I ask you guys can I start with a question instead of just pouring out by my emotions all over the place I want to ask you guys. If you were just new visitors to our planet and I explained the rules of basketball to you and you started watching hoops with the restart. Would you say that the sixers are the worst team in the ballpark? Worse looking team in the bubble worst like in terms of these guys clearly do not know each other don't have any idea how to play offense with one. Another nobody seems to really like each other and they're not listening to their coach. Would you say that that is a fair assessment of what you've seen from the sixers so far with Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid I think if I were familiar enough as an alien with human interaction to know okay, this is what people look like they've never met before that. Assuming I think they do have serious. We've never played before in our lives vibes on a regular basis which at this stage of the season given, how many years those guys play together in particular is more than a little bit disturbing but I think speaks to some of you know I, think Philly's a lot of ways has has gone out of their way to be as creative as possible and in the process just undermined a lot of what makes basketball really really simple sometimes well, like if I was in the. Who is really into NBA Manusha maybe I'd watch Tobias Harris and be like he's getting paid two hundred million dollars. That's why they don't have McCain bridges. Yeah. Wasn't I would also just say that I hope the aliens tuned into the Pelicans play defense because I don't think you need an understanding of human interaction to realize what a train wreck that is, and as bad as things have gotten in terms of just health with. Philadelphia. These days I also think just watching, Zion Williams and walk these is like it brings on anxiety attack. So I guess it could be worse it could be worse but I think the thing that I thought was happening in the beginning of. The bumble and especially as as it pertained to. Ben. Simmons was that they arrived and they were like looking at everybody and they're like, Hey, guys all the other NBA players like we're just gonNA take it easy right like we're going to just kinda get get our sea legs back as we get back into NBA action and get back up the pace and then everybody else just like blue their doors off and even though there's been some like teams having some struggles in the bubble in that, there's been some issues. It just felt like they were like still team. Of Switch Flip. Hey we're going to at some point. This is all just GonNa make complete and total sense. And I think the problem that I having watching them was like I. Don't mind them losing honestly I've watched the news for a very long time. It's IT'S I don't mind philly even not necessarily reaching their potential as a title contender I think that there's been a few winners in my life. You know. What I mind is that like they're just didn't seem to be a plan and I watch. Franchise after franchise to franchise, and I'm speaking very fan fan heavy here. Just, a somebody comes in and here's how we're going to play. And they have overcome more obstacles than the sixers have like you watch Oklahoma City and yours like. Oh. Wow. So you guys just came up with his three guard thing and it worked and you wash Houston and you're like oh you guys are just. Got Russell Westbrook, and look even better than you did with Chris Paul and it's like I don't know where the creativity and the. Ingenuity. The tactical savvy and frankly just like the overall blueprint for here's how we're going to put together a team around these two guys that we've decided are the franchise will I mean if I may I would like to submit? Its exhibits like hugh through S in terms of why the sixers completely cursed franchise and I mean if we if we look back like, let's go back to February, we should draw. Music arrived. Brett Brown Moves Horford to the bench in that game against the clippers. Looks like, okay. This is GonNa be the new way. This team looks great. Let's roll with it. Immediately Been Simmons hurts his back. Soon, after that Joel embiid gets her pretty much right after that the season comes to a halt with this long layoff. They. Circle. Back in his bubble, Brett Brown. We're GONNA Shake Milton into the starting lineup immediately again, Ben Simmons knee injury, Joel embiid hurt his ankle I like all the Best Intel in the world tells us that Brett Brown could be in some serious trouble if he doesn't make something happened with this team I, mean that's clear to every dude with an eagles. Jersey in his twitter Avatar. And yet every time restaurant has tried to make these desperation moves to try to get some. Only verners. But to see all this blow up like this when you do finally try to make the moves, I mean, it's it's just kind of tragic. So my question is like as Brett Brown the coolest person on earth because the amount of coverage of him losing his job, get some tragedy like he's a fine coach probably. But if he gets fired, the world will keep spinning like it's not a big deal really violent acts Oh my God breadbox Mica fired okay. Live for all the time. Well, mean he's he's such an interesting character in this whole saga because the other elements of this franchise whether it was ownership or management, and the turnover that they've had in those positions has created such a chaotic atmosphere. That Brett is always gone to as the safe pair of hands say, Oh, well, in this moment of transition let's stick with what we know with Brown. Oh well now that Jimmy Butler is gone, we gotta give Brown a chance to have the team that this team and the constant turnover in the roster. The default position is just like well, let at a year of these guys you know and it's like you're you're never going to give him a year with these guys. You're always going to be getting rid of people and not giving him basic fundamental rosser depth and please like honestly I don I. Honestly, start crying on zoom if we talk about Michelle Bridges Oversight or Smith. Aware of the fact. I am aware of the fact that. The that that pick wound up also facilitating offering. Tobias Harris Two hundred million dollars nearly like I'm fully aware of all the ramifications of that. But I just think that. There is a certain point is happened to soccer all the time three years the Guy Stop hearing your message. There's only a few people who really longtime in in in the Premier League in European football that those guys are institutions but the idea that somebody. Brett does not have something in his back pocket that he hasn't shown us yet. So why not try Jay writes Stan Van Gundy whoever it is that is the person who's like it's just like this you stand over there. Or you need somebody to come in and say, this is exactly what these two guys need or. I can only use one of them and let's let's really restock the coffers here by trading one of them. Yeah that's the one caveat to the WHO is to blame the Front Office or the coaching staff where Brown was in charge when he took Zaire Smith Patio where McKell bridge is now just the Shining Star of his sons revival I will say this though. It is weird to really just dig Brett Brown's grave when it seems like at the very least he's doing a lot right now unlike before where you could argue maybe to Ben Simmons too much didn't push when he probably should have. benched Al Horford right before the restart, which is a tough decision for a guy that they just paid will however many millions of dollars to in order to try to make this thing work, and at the very least he tried to move Ben Simmons more to a powerful position bring shake and into that starting lineup he's doing a lot I. don't know if they're the right answers but I am at the very least encourage that he's doing something and it's not. I won't entirely blame him because in some ways. Benjamin's knee injury was like an injury that answered a question that was already there. You know you're either he didn't look right in the bubble anyway I don't think he had a decent game indy like for the most part like there was just. Something off about and I don't know whether it was like. kind of like a mile tantrum about being moved out of point guard or whatever it was. But yeah, I mean Robin erupted but I, I was just GonNa say it's not entirely on Brett. No I was GONNA say as far as Brits piece in this it feels a lot like especially since all the losing and when they really started to get you know they get Joel, they get him healthy on on the floor they get Ben. Simmons, that he approached this this you know this coach would come out of the Spurs System With a long haul kind of approach with Ben, Simmons. In with Joel we're not GONNA ruffled. We're going to challenge these guys in some ways, but we're not going to ruffle their feathers. We're not gonNA push them too far their comfort zones. These are the guys who are going to be the next decade of sixers basketball like Tim, Duncan, was for the Spurs for such a long time and when you take that approach I think it's healthy and a lot I think there's A lot of aspects of sixers culture that are healthy in terms of the way they think about the humanity of players in terms of the way they try to relate to guys. But in terms of some of the on court stuff, there's no question that guy should have been pushed in slightly different directions that they tried slightly more conventional things at times that you know I they. They got a little bit ahead of themselves in terms of how far this is going to go. I think we're all kind of saying ultimately is a coach is kind of a victim of a situation. Right? There's only so much Brett Brown can do. So Chris I need a take. I'm putting you on the spot and Beater Simmons Pick One I'm pretty team Simmons. I I understand that that's not The most probably is probably the popular locker room favorite both the in sixers locker room but in in terms of like vote getting there but I just I just love telepathic passers. I I've always loved guys who see the floor, the way Ben Simmons does and I rarely get somebody like that who also is can defend for positions. Defend for positions kind of player. What about sixers? Fans in general who? Envied by far. Okay. I think it's embiid embiid is like a Philadelphia sports icon now. That's what's interesting about this. Little trial period here for the Joel Embiid sixers I think on the one hand maybe you'll start to appreciate Ben Simmons and what he did particularly for that defense when you want Al, Horford and some of these. Tobias. Harris pretty much trying to cover up what he did on the wings. I mean Richardson and viable can only do so much or on the other hand this. Word has something some notes on that take by the way. You know maybe maybe KNEECAP was already starting to fall out of place at that point. But I think there's also a possibility here where they go on a run and all of a sudden like significant decisions could be made before we even get this little runway of embiid and Simmons as this four point guard type whatever Brett Brown had mind. It's going to be interesting basically saying I, think this upcoming period is just as interesting as anything that's come before it. They're going to need just by the nature of the thing for embiid to do a ton at all times you know provided that he's healthy to whatever extent he's able to go. They're going to need all of that I think where I get a little skeptical of the What if the sixers pull the rabbit out of the hat here is you know what they lose with Ben Simmons defensively. This is a team that especially from like a basketball nerd perspective has been Kinda underwhelming on defense all season you would think that between beat and Horford and Simmons and Josh Richardson and even thrown Tobias Harris who's like a at least a big defender who can get in the Antiviral, of course. That's a lot of defensive personnel you. All defense level personnel you can throw on the floor at any given time and turn out with just like a kind of pretty good defense most years when they have, you know that group has the potential to be a historically great defense. I. Mean. It's just it's really hard to believe in that team and then you take Simmons out of that, who's the most responsible for their defensive success period to this point this season I just don't trust that they're going to be quite good enough on that side to to really make anything of this I will say this. If, you're Joel Embiid, you're supposed to be this franchise big man defensive player of the year seven foot monster. You're going in the playoffs facing Daniel. Ties I don't any excuses. You've got plenty of players around you. Still I mean like follow the crying were doing they do have Richardson harassed eyeballs Milton Horford. This is a decent team if embiid wants to be a dominant seven footer how `bout you dominant Germ big man and when a playoff round shot the Germany and you also saw draymond green right draymond has been saying the same thing I'm GonNa find you fifty grand for that. Take the jury. Saying the same thing where he when he was on. The other night he was like anytime Joel embiid takes a jumper, the defense one or paraphrasing dream on because I don't want to get fined by exactly quoting but. I think. He was basically saying like if you're Joel embiid and you're doing anything but dominating the lower block, you're essentially giving away points you're making the defense feel good about themselves and I've seen a couple of different iterations of the sixers over the years tactically where it's been was in the process years, it was more of a running gun high high possessions. Getting up a lot of threes. That is obviously dissipated over the years and it was supposed to be bully ball. This year was supposed to be. We're going to grind you down. We have these enormous defensive judge or not. That's going to just take away your will to keep playing basketball. So I can they come up with a basketball identity that makes sense with Joel is the centerpiece in forty eight hours four or is this is this just going to be a one and Al and then Brett loses his job and the? The room will start was I think at the very lease their decisions are easier. Now I think like Brown had to make the right decisions in order to make this work, but it's pretty clear and and they made that clear in that second half of the game. I think it was against the magic where embiid just wit into the post and dominated I. I think that's the only way they really can play like maybe they can convince them to get more involved in the pick and roll. But like their options are pretty limited at this point and so I don't know I. This is GonNa Sound Weird coming from me but I'm almost a little optimistic or are a little bit like looking forward to whatever's going to come next year if embiid is indeed healthy, just because I think this is all money like you. You've reached darkest time line I do think like anything good that happens from here on now at the very least will feel nice. Sure. I think they're going to get nuked like I. Think especially the part of the bracket therein, and the way that the teams that they probably will face have looked You know maybe and also let's also mention this because I've been thinking about this sick about this this morning when I was driving around. I was so excited to get basketball back with all the caveats you know we've we've obviously stated I was so excited to have basketball back that I hadn't really even. Thought about what's it like to not do this for three months and then come back and what could have possibly transpired that we don't know about over the last couple of months and you know one thing I completely forgot about was like they're not playing home games. And that was essentially what they built this season on was fortress Philadelphia, and winning practically all of their home games and so these little things like that that I think just never really broke right for them and I'm talking about the season is over as if it's over maybe I shouldn't maybe I should have just Justin's optimism rob I dunno know I mean considering Justin lead with their options are limited, which is just what you WanNa hear going on basketball. I mean, it's it's optimism for various. I. Mean. It really does seem the season does seem so curse in so many ways for them I just when you have a team, that kind of fundamentally has poor spacing by design a little bit. The only way you overcome that is with with good chemistry with good flow things that they don't have both because they've just been on different wavelengths all season because of all the injuries that they've been dealing. With. Until you kind of deal with whatever ancient burial ground, the Wells Fargo Center is built on top of like this. This all seems kind of a moot point to me what needs to change here let's talk about this because this is going to be the inevitable conversation, rob your the pragmatic one among us. So if you're looking at this offseason, they get bounced in the first round, you are the front office. What would you change, I'm tired of we'RE GONNA, take secondary and tertiary ball-handlers another team and pull them together and together they are going to be our point guard like you need a primary ball handler type he doesn't have to have the ball in his hands all the time. You can still run things that have been Simmons if East on the team you can. Run it through beat obviously you can work Josh Richardson and disengage Oh stuff like you need somebody who's secure with the ball in their hands and they had that for a minute would Jimmy Butler at least I know that that whole situation was complicated in in very different ways but you just need a little bit more ball security. All right now the nuclear option charkes. So. Trade I would make. Ben Simmons from Michael Porter and demary. I knew this was coming ahead of time. That's a real heading heart one for me man you know. Ben's watching Ben Simmons at. For the next eight years with Yokich is Nabi. Amazing that those two guys together would be my cardiologist disagrees with you. But that is tempting. John, that is a that is a that'd be a huge return on Simmons. Your you're betting dig on your medical staff. I think between Michael Porter Jr. Embiid is the core of your team that's a lot riding on guys whose medical have been red flagged and red flagged in red flagged pretty much. Every turn didn't Ben Simmons just tears me and her back last. Amid pandemic. People, took Qatar. So their main source of healing these guys is is really drying up. No, I think it's a really intriguing idea. I just don't know what fair value for Ben Simmons is. Anymore I liked Chris I'm just like really high on him. I. Just think like you put them in the right system and all of a sudden he becomes everything we thought he would be I. Just. You're the one who's like when I go into your office or when I used to go into your office, You d like she should have his own team it should it should be like him and and seven shooters. Just. And him pushing the ball up the court and being able then to like defend the Kalis and the whatever's of of another team but it should essentially be built around him. Listen I want suggested trading Joel embiid four like Landry Shamet Catholic Som. Talking about the same more is. Very much in on that, but here's the thing. I'm just a little bomb that we got robbed of this little mini period where we got to see what Brown wanted to do and I do wonder if because of this, the sixers now have reasoning to just nip around the edges to do something like rob suggested maybe try to solve the ball handling situation maybe move to buy Harris to open up a little bit more playing time for some of their big. So Horford can can maybe just find settle into more of a role. Like This team over the next couple of weeks Al Horford, 'cause if if that happens, it means either Horford is actually good and still has some gas in the take and he's exactly what he was supposed to be, which is relief on the on the frontline for for embiid in terms of being able to soak up some like defensive center minutes if that's what they want him to do, and also like southern for him, that's great. It also gives him any trade whatsoever, and if there is a team out there but New Orleans I on the Ricky Spike Eskin had like a really intriguing. Horford to Sacramento trade idea that. Involved Buddy. I I just WANNA see everybody play up to their potential so that we can get ourselves out from under this situation. You know the one I still Kinda. Love. Trading for Chris Paul I don't know if that's viable anymore, and this is like Kevin o'connors idea. So credit to him here but I do wonder if you get someone like that in there and you don't. Like sacrifice your core you don't sacrifice either Ben and embiid. I. Wonder if someone like that could make sense of what they have there. That's pretty much Chris Paul's mole, right? It does make you put them in there. He's like a house flipper you put them in there and he Brings value. Back. into whatever you're establishing. KNOCKS DOWN WALL CREATES AND OPEN FLOOR PLAN To the flow going. Flop starring Chris Paul I think someone like him if not him a lot of sense. But then on the other hand, I don't know of Chris Paul's value is too high. Now I wonder if you have to give up too much even with him, that because is the problem with actually playing basketball and it just it just tweets everything. Is the top NBA player Al Horford is like a back of of of lint and I don't know what Ben Simmons is. I was GONNA say at least with Chris I think you have the benefit in these kinds of discussions of his salary just being so goddamn enormous that you can work your way into all kinds of potential scenarios with the Thunder and the fact that that that franchise is obviously at a pivot point where they could if they chose to move him on just the question of was the market going to be in the salary depressed that a lot I would say though kind of going back to actress are saying about Ben Needing his own team, you know who else knows that? Ben. Simmons. So like is he going to be cool with Chris? Paul coming in and yelling at up in holding the ball while he's in the corner with Chris and devouring pick and roll. I don't think. So it takes a special type of person to want to be yelled at by Chris. Paul and my credit to Shay gilders Alexander. He's done an incredible job of just like learning from him. He's GonNa make it all NBA team in the next three or so because right by the way I missed an open floor court joke before and I'm really mad at myself so just All. Right. Let's wrap it there. That's enough sadness for for now we're going to get into the nuggets but Chris Thank you for joining us guys. Thanks so much. You know. We could have talked about anything but we talked about this anytime I. We'll be back right after this. All right we're back. It's John. It's rob me increases gone to Sulk in the corner which we wish him the best we're going to Newark near Corner here quickly charkes has gone on the Denver Nuggets He has some some data to back his Michael Porter Jr. Take here. So charge you won't take it away looking at the numbers from the bubble I think quarter is really playing out of his mind. He's kind of being the guy we all thought it would be before these injuries. So in his seven games, he's averaging twenty four points and Nine rebounds on fifty, six, forty, six, ninety, six, shooting. So he's basically a six foot ten Steve Nash Right now way shooting the ball and he's a, he's an efficiency machine. So he takes almost half shots in the paint and forty percent which the three point line and this season when he's playing with Yokich, he has a seventy five percent shooting percentage which would lead the entire league over the course of the season like for perspective Mitchell Robinson's number one at seventy, two, point six and all he does dunk and porter is more efficient shooting threes than he has dunking. So I think like we see with porter the reason he didn't play much arguing this season is because he makes defensive mistakes he has a lot of veterans ahead of them, but ultimately the ways playing now, he kind of has to play right 'cause if drawing up in a lab, the guys you want around Yokich, you want long athletic guy who can shoot really well, and if you look at the guys they have now. So That's Jamal Murray Gary Harris will barden they don't really fit any of those criteria. So Murray Harrison Barton they're all six, four, six, five. And none of them are really a plus shooter. So like not only are they not great shooters they're not great defensive players and it's kind of makes you wonder like, what are they doing for this team right so compare those guys to topic perimeter guys the rest of the team's no west. So like give Murray Harrison Barton. So are they better than Houston with Ross Harden? Gordon. No way I baron. Okay. See with Chris Paul S G. Dennis Schroder. Probably Not Utah Has Donald Mitchell Mike. Conley Joe Ingles Dallas has Luca alone but all the guys Denver Portland has dame CJ and Carmelo and remember last year Portland killed under with regards. So like you look at this team Denver, probably has the worst guards of the top eighteen of the middle middle, sixteen, Michigan three, two one if look at this team Denver probably has the three worst the worst guards of all the teams in their range in the west and I think that's why no one really is taking them that seriously. And like you look at Yokich. So I think that people don't realize about Yokich. How much easier he makes life for his teammates and this year in terms of touches per game, and the bubble Yokich is number two at one, hundred, six hutches per game behind Luca at one, twenty three, and you have dame John Lebron and all those guys hold the ball for at least eight seconds of Game Yokich whole eight seconds left three two. One all those guys hold a ball for like eight eight seconds of possession on average, whereas Yokich holds it for less than five. So what that tells you is is your which is constantly passing the ball to his teammates and they don't have to really do anything because they're he's setting them up without holding the ball. So he gets get it'd be the first option without having any first option responsibility so. Basically what I'm saying is I feel like any guards could succeed with Yoga Center. He's that good player, and if that's the case why not play bigger longer defenders around him. So instead of playing, you know three, six, four guys, they use the lineup and the bubble is Oklahoma City where they played Yokich Paul Millsap Jeremy Grant Mike reporter that seven, foot, six, eight, six, nine, six, ten, they are plus twenty. One in like twelve minutes that's not a lot. But how do you guard that team? How can you score on them? That's four, six, eight guys, and then holly that with Yokich like I'm looking at Yokich I wanna have as many long athletic players as possible around him I look at him and I look at I think Dirk Nowitzki I think dirks one championship he had tyson, Chandler Shawn Marion Jason Kidd. I. Don't see those players in Denver starting lineup right now at Denver's GonNa WanNa win. I. Think They Really GonNa Change up their whole lineup playing porter playing grant, and really kind of changed the nature of their team. So are you saying that bowl is in the next Jason Kidd? That's the other thing too. We can talk about also. I think what you hit on with porter there and I was actually talking to Tim Connolly this week for a story and work on the fit around Yokich and he asked him basically what you're proposing, what do you want around player like that? He brought up three things a player who has a High Q. Player who can move without the ball a lot of length as much as possible especially since Nicole is not you know the most agile guy on the planet. And as much shooting as you can get these like this. Again, this is not revolutionary thinking, but those three things, what are those things have in common their all part of Michael Porter Jr. Skillset like this is a guy who knows how to move who is a gigantic passing target for Yokich who shoots the hell out of the ball or at least doing that right now. And really presents a lot of mash up problems in in terms of just what you're talking about in ways that Gary Harrison will barton anyone else that Denver can throw on the floor of those positions. Really doesn't if he is this player or at least some reasonable simile of this player, it's just such a transformative piece for Denver to have in terms of raising sealing. The big question is, can he defend? I don't know anybody like He. He's super long that's going to work to his advantage, but he it's pretty clear that he doesn't. He's not quite locked into the rotations of MBA defense all the responsibilities that he would have especially as another kind of big on the floor. If you WANNA play him as more of a four, situationally, he has a lot to learn in that regard but everything else is just so tantalizing that you have to put him in there right now yet sharks trade puerto, junior to Philly. But almost wonder if porter is the exact complement player complimentary player to Yokich that nuggets Juan. Dj Foster had something on the site today just about bubble players who had breakthroughs and whether or not. They're going to continue on into the playoffs and he made this really good point about how the Yokich. Porter pick and roll even if you guard it properly, if you're not as big as them, they're still on a vertical plane where you can't even get to. So it doesn't even matter. So you can guard them perfectly and they still might have the advantage. I, know the Yokich Murray Combo has been pretty spectacular especially on the offense then but I watch porter and Yokich play together and they just have this feel. For the game that it's almost like they've been playing together for a really long time and on top of that, there's just so much bigger and like worst case even though both of them are as defenders, they do that size on them, and so they have that advantage my question for you guys though. So obviously Murray's working his way back into the flow of things after being out for the first few games. Do you think there's enough room in Denver to satisfy both Porter Anne Murray along with Yoga obviously I. Think. So because porter so good off the ball because he can score so quickly and like you were saying, there are times where Yoga's passing the porter cutting a quarterback to the receiver you still over the guy's head, he catches it scores I. think my questions more like do you need Jamal Murray? If yogesh says seven point guard why not put four great defenders around him and try to win games with defense like Murray the stuff he does I feel like is replaceable while like having a six four defender as ultimate going to hurt your team more in the long run it is replaceable to an extent. joe-marie is not a perfect player, and certainly defensively, you could get a lot of upgrades. But in terms of the chemistry, he has with Yokich. Offensively, I don't want to discount that you know it's the way that Yokich plays as you alluded to John is just it empowers everyone around him to be more efficient than they are but it also has this kind of allusion where everyone feels involved not just because he's passing it to them all the time but like when you run a Dribble handoff, for example, between Marian, Yokich. You get the best of both worlds you get Yokich and his vision and his effect on the game but you also get murray feeling involved and feeling confident and feeling in rhythm in a way that they have a lot of good kind of throwback action between them marite like Murray to his credit knows how to cut and reverse and work that stuff really well. And especially coming off this conversation about Philly I think. It's easy to gloss over some of the nuance of that stuff and just say, oh, like a Josh Richardson type can do that. Let's get someone in here who can defend a little better new also shoots handles at a at a reasonable clip I. Think what Murray does is pretty important for them. That's not to say you couldn't improve upon it's not to say you could make a trade that could get them a better. You know point guard or quote unquote. Point Guard depending on how you structure your offense I. Think he does have you know there is a pretty good value add there for him I guess to bring it all back to talk about last segment I just look at it and I think if I could get Ben Simmons a five position defender with Yokich is feel like, Simmons, and Yokich get them on the same team I'm thinking multiple championships like I'm thinking big picture like A. Yokich Murray Team Mba Conference finals let's get some real here. You Got Simmons for five years a long term contract and Q magin those two guys pushing the pace passing off each other I really feel like the Yokich cinnaminson better than you with we're better than Simmons and by a significant margin contracts can pay for a lot of surgery you know. Yeah I don't know I kinda. WanNa see Denver make this work with Puerto Junior. They've done an excellent job of the past two years of just taking calculated risks. Obviously they had success tapping into the international market with Yokich and and Both of whom are just like. Just killing it in the bubble and I think it's just a credit to Tim Conway and the staff there. Obviously, our tourists went to Chicago as a result of evolve is good moves there but they've done a good job of late drafting guys with injuries a little bit lower than they might have been had. They not had those existing injuries some week Beasley right. He's a guy who fell in the draft a little bit because. Of, that importer was there for everyone to take especially the clippers who had two picks right there. They ended up with Shay trading for Shea with the Hornets, which was was a godsend in was the right pick. But with the back end, imagine what the clippers with Michael Porter Jr. instead of Jerome Robinson I duNno Denver continues to make these little moves on the fringes enhance the bigger picture and I think they deserve a lot of. Credit for that, where do you see Denver with this team this year in the playoffs like if they're gonNA be at three and possibly play either Dallas Utah or Oklahoma City a lot of it depends on porter and and it kind of comes back to that context you're laying out John of how far can a Yokich Murray team go and it depends on if you think of it that way or if you think of it is How far can a Yokich Porter Murray team go because all of a sudden the ceiling for that team is so much higher. There's so much more complex, but at the same time banking on baking on a guy with his experience level or lack thereof being thrown into the fire of a playoff series went as just mentioning his defense can exactly trusted at this point I. See. DENVER. As being a team that can win a round beyond. That I would start to get a little bit suspect just because a lot would have to break in their favor and there are definitely some matchups on the board that don't suit them particularly well yeah. My question is who's available because that's been their big question the past two weeks and into seems like even though they've got guys in there still seems to be just a general unrest among stat Rosser we're not totally sure who's GonNa. Play Win I know Jamal Murray made his return over the weekend but even he clearly didn't seem like he was back into game shape and I wonder what's going to happen next week these Games are coming. So quickly now I wonder if all the guys they need and there are going to be available and then the old concerns are going to creep in what is Gary Harris going to give them and that's a guy. Who's going who has in the past played a key role for them needs to continue to it and so yeah, I agree with Rob Bet they kinda need to step up here and that's kind of a risky situation where you need effectively a rookie who still working through his own injuries in his past to really carry. But I will say just as like a flip side to that when porter is on the floor they play with. An energy that I think they lack at times. There's just something on the court that POPs and it's I don't know if it star presence I don't know if it's just he makes offense work a little bit more seamlessly if the defense has a crowd him because and leaves everyone else a little bit more open, but that team seems way more thrilling. Puerto on the floor. So maybe there's something they can ride their I don't know. I think it just goes back to it's just really hard to guard a six foot ten wing who can shoot us off the dribble and score at the. Rim. The defense all the sudden has got work so much harder just to account for me round the floor yet. Let me tell you Puerto. We'll take those shots I can tell you. I've seen him just ribble down the core and then just pull up and he makes them most of the time to his credit. So all the sudden the nuggets are one of the more fascinating watches in the NBA. I think they kinda fallen into this Malays whereas like kind of seen this before like it really comes down to whether or not the same existing pieces work together a little bit better so. At the very least think they're going to be super intriguing going into the arrest of a the stretch here That's a good place to end it next week, we'll be back and we'll have playoff basketball. Finally in August. So we will be back next Wednesday the three of us in different guests until then for John and rob and myself and Steve on the production, we'll see next time. Basketball is very good. Fall.
Celtics Smack Lakers, Dame's 60-Piece, Harden's Broke Jumper and More
"Jalen and Jacoby is do rag Jalen rose. What up Doe David Jacoby Cool again center stage on Mike and we put them jailers? Kobi what is it that we do. We give the people and they won. The Australian Open is happening half the way around the world which means there's no Jalen and Jacoby on television but just because there's no Jalen Jacoby on television does not mean we're not gonNA come in on our day off to give our podcast cast listeners. A dope pod to step just how committed we are to the program. We don't WANNA disappear for two weeks. No we wouldn't do such a thing and you know. I like to humanize what we do for the people. Because so many times when you see public figures jurors and former and current athletes entertainers and professionals like David Jacoby. They've been working multimedia and building podcast outcasts and television shows producing doing all that for twenty years. Sometimes it's easy to take the journey for granted and I just have to stay on a Monday and Tuesday. He worked out perfect for me personally. Did the Australian Open was on and we were great. Let me tell you. Why don't you tell you it has nothing to do with not wanting to work because I take pride in being the hardest working man in the industry it has everything to do with the third world country? I had grown on my right cheek last days. I'm so fortunate I have to do television the last couple of days so hat. Yes someone moving in you got a roommate. Aw No I got a meteoric talk. I got one of my house. Uh even though we're not going to make get make up today anyway so there is so so much to discuss on the show today right. We got the two football games from Sunday nights a little stale. So we're going to start with the latest from the National Basketball Association. The Lakers and the Celtics Game I was hype for my wife and said you're put quincy to bed. I'm watching the Lakers and Celtics. Don't worry about it you know she's like you got it so I sat down. I locked in the and we had a great first quarter and then right around the second quarter. got a little got away from the Lakers and I was like they're gonNA make a run. They got the bridge a Davis. That never happened. Never have been. Let's see now. The Bronze Get dunked on next thing you know is her ten. Turn Twenty twenty twenty. twenty-five turned off and went to sleep for was even over. I've said the last few years when you watch the Boston Celtics play basketball nisus. Even when they had Al Horford Isaiah Thomas in career Irvin seven a lot of times you look at the body type and door to personality of a player. You underestimate certain skills that they have and so when you see Marcus smart you see a physically tough player that's GonNa get blocks take charges. This is going to be a beast defensively. But I'd like to look deeper to the box score and two of the things that impressed me about him. I just saw make ten three point shots recently in a basketball game. Eleven eleven threes eleven correct and the other thing is. He's he's the best passer they've had on their team in years. I remember saying this a couple of years ago and people were like seriously you saw that behind the back. Pass the left to Kanter yes yet layup. Yes perfect example of what I'm talking about and again when you look at him. Uh his his his body type his physicality and how he plays. You underestimate the. He actually has what I consider soft hands and I don't mean he got a soft touch on runners and floaters on me that I felt that he will be gotta can make jump shots because he was a good passer and also feel like that skill is something that the Celtics are going to need to rely on more if they're going to advance to the eastern conference playoffs the eastern conference buying and like one person. I love on that team so much. Jalen Brown around you know because he had high expectations come into league in his first couple of years and league didn't necessarily live up to them but this year Taylor Brown has been so efficient so consistent so good. I'm just loving what I see from Jaylen Brown this year. And he's you know I think sometimes we will put a label or reputation on a player before they can even drink in a bar. You know what I mean. I kind of feel like that happens to a lot of players nowadays if you look at Jaylen round. He's like what twenty three Rio WanNa say in his fourth year in the League and he's now coming into his own at twenty three years old with a lot of people came into the League at twenty three years old back in your day. You know what I appreciate. She ate you talked about being twenty three and in my day at that time early in the league just a couple of seasons removed from playing basketball at the University of Michigan during those years a lot of people were naming their kids Jalen and I appreciate that. The name has grown to the point. where I'm old enough a young enough to appreciate win? A player named Jalen does something that it just second nature about the name. When I watched it Afrin- assignments play user? They're gonNA reference where he got his name front now it's so many J. islands especially in sports it has become second nature and I love that I met him. Initially elite at sway in the morning shouts at home for the bay and say forty five on draft day. The year he got picked and at the time he was projected to go around top ten ish and I told him what I told view players. I and you know Jacoby. I don't even WanNa start naming guys because I'm elise somebody off. But we were doing our job interviews with the palm bother and Dan interviews that you and I don collegiate players so many times I look at a Guy Victor Oladipo. CJ mccollum Zion Williams. That comes to mind and I said this Jalen Brown. You Be Successful without basketball when I say that that has nothing to do with points. Points rebounds and assists I just since an intelligent individual that has survival tactics and I told him you go higher than you think. I think he looked at me like seriously. Unlike trust me so get ready beat. Chris don't wear red white pinstripe suit. Ramp Maury gators you earlier than you think and four that draft at him to go number three overall. It was a shock to so many people for the Celtics to continue to attain assets and not cash in knows picks in players that they accumulated accumulated over the past few years into all NBA type of performer. I also mentioned Phil Danny Ainge was overplaying. His hand and as some of the pieces came off off the bore people sleep. The Celtics had a chance to get Leonard. The Raptors asked him up in one. A champion. Davis Davis Davis to fill lake. Kevin Love fellay correct. And that's where I was going as I saw him playing in the other uniform last night it reminded me of when his father he came out after the fact that was like well. He'll play in Boston anyway. So that team has a lot more perimeter firepower in most realized clippers. Come to mind because they have co-op A PG IN LOUISVILLE Shamet. But I've said the pro the the the the Celtics have the most versatile debt on a perimeter probably in the NBA. I'm talking about guys like face up and play constantly multiple positions. You could play tatum at two three or four. Same Jaylen Brown. You could play smarter. Want to sometimes three. You could play Gordon Hayward at two three. You could play Cambodia. One two they really have. You could play Jalen Brown at two three or four so so for me is I feel like they're one big physical body away to go alongside Kanter to truly upset the APPLECART applecart knees. Here's the thing if you dunk Lebron James and he jumped to try to block the shot. You should be allowed to stare at them. I don't care the rest came to worst tech heck. That was the worst thing he Lebron James. Yeah he's he's GonNa look at them. He didn't say anything. He didn't gesture toward him. You can't give them that take like that's just that's too. They taking this thing too far way. Too Far. jalen Brown should be allowed to do that. That made me upset on behalf of all the Jalen. Well another thing that made me upset. You said it took place. Yesterday is Ronnie was taken out the basketball and the fan took the liberty to try to throw something out of them. Now I'm not gonNA act like that happens. Because he's Lebron James Son because over the over over the Over decades of being around sports as a player and as a participant and as a fan. I've seen crazier things obviously happen if particular to myself but that was rude. That was disrespectful. It was irresponsible but I woke. Aw Young people in particular to take that as a life trait owen this. We'll call this the game. podcast the Emmy. I'm just I'm just spitting all game Eh. Spitting game get to turn his podcasts up from this spot. If you WANNA turn yes yes from from game two Dane because Dame Lillard had sixty one points yesterday sixty one points in an overtime win against the warriors the trailblazers razors still in trouble. Though it seems to hit the race to hit the brakes. TV show so there are two thoughts. That I was trying on a Embark on my handsome coal host that We got away from. We can't ignore what happened with Brawny and based on that young people have to learn to deal with people that don't like them and it's okay just because you're a public figure celebrity Whatever you do for a living there people that you feel like are rooting for you? That really aren't uh and it's okay. And so he'll continue to grow into the fact that people dislike him for whatever reason he'll we'll continue to mature and be judged by the content of his character not necessarily only by being a basketball player and that was the first the second thought is Lebron got dunked though because he was on the airplane the day to gain going to check out his son. He didn't have the bottles. Jane Browse coming down the lane. Kohl's and the Bronx wanted to get up. His mind was telling them he was going to contest it. The most athletic players has ever play the game. But that body wasn't ready for that in the seventeen year turned thirty five. He wasn't ready for that correct rich. He was not ready. Ready for that. And Jaylen Brown Jaylen Brown a dunk. Be as you as I agree with. You definitely shouldn't have got a tag. That was a week. Call about a row. nano-tech take and I want to also as we talk about Lebron and the Celtics get into something that was disturbing yesterday a former former member of the Boston Celtics play. Lebron's Cleveland. There was a disturbing image of Allante West circulating on the Internet and it hit home for me and a lot of ways because so many times you want the success and you want the fame and you want the glory. We never sometimes acknowledged that the that there are horror stories to come with it as well and that viral video. It was really unfortunate for me to see one of my former. NBA Brethren seem to be just down out in life and always talk about the score of the game and the game of life. And there's no statistic no accolate no achievement. That doesn't pay me when I see image like that of anyone especially somebody that I played against and somebody that followed his career and so I just wanted to use this opportunity as a call to action. I talked so many times about people will bring flowers to your funeral funeral but no soup when you're sick. Shout to ski. No in state property for those that know Dhillon West former teammates mate's coaches that he's had this is that time and unfortunately it took seeing that video. Uh for this call action to take place but I'm hoping based on that imagery that there are those people people that are looking to do that for him because that was really paying for the watch from watching that video he clearly has some mental health problems uh-huh and hope that he gets the help that he needs as soon as possible. And of course we always need to do better take care for my MBA players as they deal with those issues out the court because as you only play in the NBA for so long and you still the rest of your life to deal with it needs to be better program structure set up for them to get the help they need especially someone in such dire fire state as Dante clearly is from this video and this isn't the first video that we've seen that has been reason for concern and hopefully this one is serious enough off that they'll find some change in his life in back to the Court Action Daimler had sixty one points yesterday. Jalen rose but the trailblazers still needed overtime to beat the warriors. I'm concerned about this team. It always seems like they find their way into the top foreign western conference finals at the end of the year. I don't see it happening. This year Jalen rose. What do you think it's been a gift and the curse because you make it to the Western Conference finals last season but the last three years? They've also been swept out of the playoffs regardless of the round that they made it too. So it's hard to acknowledge what you're hoping to build on yet. One word derailed their start injuries. Nurkic Collins Rodney the hood. This is what opened up the opportunity for them to even at Carmelo Anthony. Cj Wasn't playing last night dame did did go off against his hometown team. I like you have some concerns. That if if they don't get healthy they can find themselves squeaking for the seventh or eighth see and or out of the play offs. Because that's just how tough the West has and continues to be so games like last night. They they needed all sixty one. They were down three would in a one possession game late regulation and he knocked down the three three tough shot. They needed all of those points each each and every one even even late when the warriors missed a a jump shot he grabbed a rebound had to go to the line is to gain with those two free throws so if they're healthy healthy they're definitely a playoff team. If they're not healthy it will be unique to see tame litter team not in the playoffs because every since he's been in the League he's found a way to elitist team to that Port to port to the postseason so we'll just have to see how that plays out as the season progresses. If I was going to gamble on I would say that they will end up in the eight C. They've got the right now currently again. We're miles away from the finish line. They've got the grizzlies in the spurs ahead of them. The sons close behind him in the Pelicans in the conversation sation so that. ACC is up for grabs. I just hope that whoever gets gates he's got over five hundred record which I also think we'll come to fruition but this one team is solidified themselves implode the little gap between themselves and the aid. That's the Oklahoma City thunder who went into Houston and beat the rockets Jalen. mm-hmm your man James Harden when one for seventeen from three one for seventeen from three the idea that he only made one but still took the fourteenth fifteenth sixteenth and Seventeenth. Three point attempt just is a is a good example of the ideology that they play with in Houston. But JALEN. If you're one for thirteen how do you even shoot fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen James Harden and I and I say this with admiration for his ability as a player because I've called him the most unique offense a weapon that the game has seen. He's the only player the only all L. Y.. Game on this podcast. Get Out your pen and paper at some point of his career. Let's go on to lead the league in these statistical categories and it's not just one is five of total points total assists free throws Maye three pointers made and the fifth one turnovers the only person at some point of his career. That's going to lead lead. The League in those categories is James Harden with that being said the one for Seventeen Games uh highlight for those who don't like the Houston Rockets Style and James Harden's style because because to answer your question how you get from thirteen seventy gun in Jackson or old school terms ball. Oh Haugen is what that's called when you're the best player on the team. There's there's a a fiduciary Gary responsibility to get the best shot you can get because there's fourteen of the pros that are sacrificing. Because they know that you the best player but when you're missing shots that doesn't mean take more shots that's gotten celebrated over the last decade decade or so it should be the opposite. You're missing shots do something else and or pass the ball dog. Oh for real. That's that's how how is dead. It's like if you're not making shots. Here's what you can do. Get some rebounds makes a place for some other people you know. Play some defense try to contribute and other ways and hopefully Russell westbrook out here. He had a thirty point. Triple double and that should be enough and what they you did in this game because I watch this one. They got ahead by too many and then they start coaching the fourth quarter. They'd always the thunder. They slept there by sixteen in the fourth quarter. And then he'll the call a timeout they tried to regroup and just never really happened then before you know it Chris. Paul Thunder got a great win. They've now won. Eleven of fifteen road games after losing their first six road games. They've got their twelfth win. This season trailing entering the fourth quarter. I watching the other team and there's still the same roster. They were at the beginning of the season if they're just playing better than I expected them to so a few things. I'm fortunate enough to have multiple tattoos and my passport feel free to steal our and traveling abroad. I realized that when you order a glass lasts of why they don't give you thirty three percent or fifty percent of your glass. They give you a full glass in the United States. They do that just for your buy more. That's a marketing and the sales trick. The reason why bring that up. Is You know who had a double glass of wine last night San Prestige because on paper when you trae Russell Westbrook after he signed. and You trae Paul George Wallace under contract. You have have a lot of people questioning that decision. Just comes the loose hair tour. There's Olympics last year Daimler shot them down and broke their hearts but now I'm watching the clippers play. Paul George Missing some games due to injury. I'm watching the rockets play. And they can't win with Russ have a thirty point triple double and Sam. Presi had his double glass of wine. Thinking got four. First round. Picks for the clippers from the clippers could shave it in and shake Jay Alexander blossoming. You know. It looks good. It looks good I may Houston Mortgage Orgich. Their current situation added Chris. Paul who's more efficient and Russell Westbrook. Anyway it wants to be put on a contending team so he's still gonNA give me the leadership team suits and short in the fourth quarter and give us toughness the helpless we engage why S. G. can learn from them and straighter can play with them and Adams can still give effort. I just had to take this opportunity to shut up Mr Prestige. Absolutely Oklahoma City Thunder. He's had to Remix that roster in many times over the course of his career. He's made a lot of trades that people scratching their heads at. But you know you know you always see Oklahoma City in a position to succeed position to be in the playoffs and at the beginning of this year. You gotta remember. 'cause we've been doing this a long time so we don't forget the things that we say we're going to transition to the next topic but we all thought well obstacle trade Chris. Paul Maybe Chris Paul goes the heat there. They're obviously tanking they're rebuilding. This is going to be a reset year for the Oklahoma City Thunder. But you know what this is not a reset your local home city thunder. They are very secure in their playoff positioning right now. No no no no no no hit the brakes rich. Hit the brakes. No no no no no no no no no no that is not fully accurate because they will look to trae Chris. Paul and Stephen Adams it's just that it makes no sense to do it and train account or at the beginning of the year or before December fifteenth when all deals are can be included in trade. You might as well let those guys play their value allowing the young to learn for them. Those guys are veterans veterans it professionals in the locker room and then you get closer to the deadline and see what happens. It's going to be tougher to move. Paul based on years still left on this deal so they may have to wait to the off season but trust me. That phone is a glass of wine is close by stamp rusty. And if they get somebody come calling like the Miami Heat or something like that. They want to unload some deals. They'll do it Jalen something. We didn't have a show yesterday right. And there's there's some swear to talk about the football on Sunday and we're starting to chiefs game but something like to cover the coverage you know me you know. Sometimes you cover the coverage. I don't want to talk about how the media reacts things we've got our own show in our own voice we don't we'll cover media we cover sports okay Jalen Yester- Sister Day all across every network it every show. We're celebrating Patrick Mahomes. It's about him like he should be the MVP like we didn't talk about Lamar Jackson changing the game for the last three months. It's like all of a sudden because the margin was playing now. Patrick Mahomes is the MVP. Now Patrick Mahomes the MVP of all sports. Now Patrick Mahomes is who you want to start a franchise around now. Patrick Mahomes is a future hall of Famer but I'm not GonNa sit here and act lake. Nick Patrick Mahomes had a better year than Lamar Jackson. I'm not GonNa sit here and act like Lamar. Jackson was not the better quarterback this year. Patrick Mahomes a special talent. Patrick Mahomes had a great game on Sunday. Lamar Jackson lost at the same time as the Petra homes beat but let's not forget just because he didn't play this week. The Lamar Jackson was far and away the best quarterback in the NFL this year. No doubt and I it just hot lice sites sensationalism that sometime can exist in multi the media and fans have to we sometimes become prisoners of the moment. And I agree with you Patrick. The whole has been amazing bringing his team back against titans bringing his team back against the Texans but he didn't win the NFL MVP this this year. No now by the way this is from Jalen Jacoby for those who follow this program program. We didn't just join the Patrick Mahomes Bandwagon. Wherever homeys? I'll never forget I'll never forget we. Yeah just started doing get up. That's when the show was three hours and I was in every segment for three hours shows able to transition since it fought through turbulence in flying nice at thirty five thousand feet for the next thirty five years. So I'm proud to have my jersey hanging up and one of the topics was somebody NFL. Quarterbacks I forget what doc writer it was for sports illustrated or I forget the publication. So I don't WanNa say the wrong one and they were ranking quarterbacks in the NFL going into last season last season last season they had Patrick mahomes twenty six almost a heart attack. I was at a heart attack bottom so I didn't really get on the table but I was going like I literally pretended to stand on the table. I couldn't believe I couldn't believe it. I was like like yell and from that moment I was like. That's one of our guys. We talked about it on the shelf. Most of the young viewers don't know who ill AL scratches. No but where we say we're aw wormald creeping through that was there record and all Patrick went on to do swimming. VP last year. That's it just y VP last year. That's all he did initially dealt with some injuries and it would have been a closer contest. But let's not act like Lamar and just slapped field and went. MVP this year nine and close. That wouldn't even act like that. It happened it wasn't even close breaking manning passing records breaking Michael Vick running records. We're going to sit here and act like all. Because he didn't play one week. We just sit here and act like Lamar. Jackson is the second best quarterback in the league this year. Let's not do that. Let's not let's be reasons. He buys his real thing. We all fall victim to it but let's talk. CBS which show today you know. Let's talk about talking about. Yeah that's like a personal thing I I don't cover the coverage. I cover the sports but I had. I had to bring that up today. Then one thing I I WANNA say. We're not going to preview the Super Bowl right here in this pod. Because there's plenty of time to do that. But I do. WanNa give a shout to the Kansas City chiefs defense. Because Derrick Henry was on a historic run through those last games. He had over one hundred eighty yards of two games in the playoffs. No one's ever done that before. Too Straight on eighty are games and then they have. They're talking about how going to tackle him and how they weren't scared attacking him and they didn't tackle him alone but they gang tackled him over and over and over again. There's three red shirts all over him and they bottled him up. Catch them under one hundred yards when something that seemed impossible going into the game we go we go. We go rapid fire. We've got too much to get through so we need rapid fire on these ones real quick. Jalen Jalen what do you think about the music. Mozart was playing on Sunday. Obviously we know his name is Mozart. Jails becoming a Mozart all season long. Two hundred twenty yards after being cut by six teams looks at the dates that he's been cut by six teams every single time before he takes the field. What'd what'd you think about the wonderful music from Mozart as Reggie puts on the classic dance? My God that's my the perseverance of a player and also the discipline of a scheme if you play for Seventeen you virtually played in every scheme and seen everything. The game has the off so for Shanahan to now use into his strength to the point. Where Coleman when he goes out of the lineup like he did with a shoulder injury that you put in my Guy Mozart? He played sweet music over two yards. Four Constrain Government Straight League pass eight times. It was like a game in the nineteen fifties the the past eight times like a high school game thirty years ago. You get paid too much or passive eight times. He's not a past ten thousand dollars Straw screen once he well he almost do that. They were GONNA die. Don't worry Jimmy G. G. WE WE GUYS rebus Wise Rivas Barking and Richard Sherman. After a big win like a module rebus come on. Robbery is eight and a game anymore. Man What are you trying to do what are you doing now. He clearly is a huge fan of this show because he derailed the entire conversation championship repairs. Terrell Israel Rivas trying to make us talk about talking to just does have some very important topics we get to a lot of them so I need you go fast on these ones. Are you ready for the rapid fire finish. I`Ma I'M GONNA reach out to derail to get him on the show. Let's get it all right. Tom Brady said that he's open to the free agency process. You think your plan L. A.. Do you think plan Vegas. Do you think plan Miami. Do you think a play. Foxborough what do you think is going to end up so the dirty taking the dirty business is sometimes it becomes personal. And if you're Tom Brady you feel like you've brought so many amazing things to the table able over the past two decades. But yet you haven't heard your head coach. Bill belichick speak into a microphone publicly and say that they wanted. He wanted you back as quarterback quarterback so now you have to behave most free agents. Do Keep your options open to me. He'll be forty three next season. I don't believe my fellow Michigan. Wolverine will win another super bowl as a starting quarterback back just so many this. This is a young man's game. That's that's my answer. It's Super Bowl so you know what I mean. It's hard to win one but just because we're still doesn't mean that he can't go to the. La chargers and have a great season go to the playoffs and losing the second round. It doesn't meaning he can't hear Vegas and lose in the first round but that's not that doesn't I think you know what your phone victim to what you always complain about. You are now a super bowl or bust. A championship wasn't success. That's what you sound like right now. I don't think he'll win the Super Bowl thirty teams. You can't always win. A Super Bowl doesn't mean you can't be successful as well as I mean. You can't have a satisfying season. Doesn't mean you can't make Baas with new teammates and bring your family to a new city. That doesn't mean that you can't enjoy yourself doesn't mean it's not worthwhile just you don't want to Super Bowl Jalen rose you have become it all minutes. It's a shame if you become you become what you hate. The most rose you've turned into your own. Astronomy turned into Super Bus Guy. David Jacoby how do I like to gate success. Well we like to gain success. I'm say both of US came up with this together based on realistic expectations. Okay realistic. I think we're Tom Brady. At forty three years old aches and pains tendonitis. Runs out on the field next year Eh. What's going to be? His personal expectation depends what team he plays for to be honest with you the teen game. I mean it was a team on a team game. His girl is going to be. I think his goal is going to be a witness who based on the people around him damn. His expectations might not be super bowl. Thank you did. Didn't you. Just name me teams that you felt like Oh they got weapons here and Rye receiver. You were there. So that means his expectation not mind his expectation is going to be if he leads needs to join a squad that can help him win a seven super bowl coming up short of that goal to him it would be a failure. I don't want to see a guy after twenty years. Take failures in his own mind. He's achieve way too much action. I want to see him as a Patriot or as retired player. I would say out saver definitely gonNA see him As something else besides those two options. I'm almost positive or and see him on the chargers Philip Rivers said. I'm out a permanent Florida. Okay what Y'all want. I don't care if you want me back or whatever ever I'm gonNA come other agencies around the League so we will see about that Jalen rose we have to move on and want to give a big shout to Chandler Parsons. He was involved in a horrific car. Accident suffered some very serious injuries that jeopardize his career and also want to point out that the person is the other end of that car accident was charged with with driving while under the influence. And I just WanNa say if you ever ever ever consider it you ever think about it. Whatever you do do not get behind the wheel of the vehicle even if you've only had a couple because that is sort tragedy that can happen bigshot Chandler? Parsons Jalen rose. We have a couple of things. CONOR McGregor had a big fight. Saturday night. Big Fight Saturday tonight. Everyone got their adult beverages. Ready sat down. WanNa see a big five hundred mccaw cowboys and the game. The shoulder the game three shoulders in a row which basically basically three shoulders and the head kicking it was done. Forty seconds Jalen. We've seen that fight. It was so short. We've all seen it but the question is who should he fight next. Talking Kabaeva Steve. They're talking Mazda Dr. They're talking mayweather. I don't know if he's ready for any of those fights. I'd like to see him get another win under his belt before he takes him one of those two opponents but McGregor Gregor called your phone. What would you tell them besides staff a twitter war? Floyd has caught my phone. And I'm GonNa just say this to a mark I believe he's GonNa fight again for Conor McGregor. Dana White has come out and talked about him potentially inviting. I want to see him fight. Moskvy doll friend of this show. I also tweeted after after the contest. IMAZ BE DOLL agreed. Because both of these guys I've seen do ooh amazing. ROIC things in the octagon really fast like cowboys. Boy Season veteran connor just demolish them. I doubt that's totally. Yeah that that wasn't like some some some some guy that was just doing this for one or two years participated in more advanced than cowboy connor. Hit Him with the Harlem shake with the Harlem shake. Thank real quick early in the fight and a crazy kick to the head so he he's shown no no rust in his layoff But the flamboyance between he and Moskva Dawn and that Bob will be oozing losing with prefight altercations which may end up predicted. They'll have some sort of physical altercation leading up to their fight. Volt those guys are just the their edge at what they do in their embraced violence. They come with their job. Mata dos stylish. Both of them about their fashion in their flair had a role born smoking. Jack at the fighting Unday we know if he wins he gonNA take us out and hang with him in Miami. So that's what I WANNA see Jay. We got we've got a few more things run that time we get to number one for all the single men and women around the world today to celebrate because we just learned something very important Riyadh is back on the market Jalen rose. After three years of dating some billionaire Riana is back on the market will be your advice for someone who wants to shoot their shot. Every honor I would say go a different route. What I mean is is too yeah I it's too? It's too twenty twenty to feel like Oh you shoot your shot on. ID or shoot future son. Slide in deums like steel. See that come. And by the way she got so many followership probably never see the message in Nazi Nazi issue. And that's why I recommend and you don't have to be a celebrity to do this or public figure to do this. Find a way to be where you know. She's going to be a love it. That's you do. Celebrities have schedules find out what she's Hosting found out where she's getting into war find out where she's doing a concert or shell. Having a guest appearance see her in person approach her like an adult and dig down Jalen. I know you've seen this on twitter and it's a shame that we just have a podcast today in Texas. They put up a statue of to park. It looks nothing like you've seen it. You've seen on twitter before jake. Sending it to us as the senior statue analysts of not paying of the world. I mean how do we right this wrong. It for us to find out about this Martin Luther King. Just it's just absurd I off rest in peace to the late. Great Dr Martin Luther King Somebody that was born in the early seventies. I seen the landscape of our country change based on his sacrifices and those who believed in his voice in his word and a country that's continuing to overcome slavery and Jim Crow laws in segregation and seeing our country country more for one where colored people were drinking out of less than satisfactory fountains and using second class accommodations like like the lavatory or not allowed to eating certain restaurants. I'm forever grateful for his contributions and I would encourage people to do what I did yesterday. It's a holiday. Take five or ten minutes of your day put up a couple of youtube clips of a few of Dr King's amazing speeches. He was a terrific or tour and a great leader and He obviously deserves a national holiday in his honor and my favorite. MLK quote is faith is taking the first step without without seeing the entire staircase so rest in peace to the late. Great Dr Martin Luther King now back to being the senior statue expert. The reason why I was disappointed somebody that met to park back in the day. As a as a member of digital underground and being in and around money being cleaned shock g when they came up with one of my a favorite to pop featured songs will start with the love. The first thing I thought when I saw that statue was great this abide took the time the energy to honor. Honor the all time legend but I had a name for that statue. Jacoby was that you want to know what it was. Yes I do so on park one pock half a box. That doc Jay do you know who Gwyneth Paltrow is. I do the actress. She's an actress also lifestyle guru. She's selling candles and one of the candles she said is centered like her vagina. Are you interested. Just in buying a Gwyneth Paltrow vaginas scented candle. I can't say that I don't appreciate the sin of a Vagina I will say I'm not necessarily enthusiastic. About what hers may smell like. I don't know why she would think that the consumer would be enthusiastic stick about I. It's a microcosm of where her life is at the idea that she thinks other people want to living quarters smell like that part of her body but moving moving on before we get fired Jalen one quick question for you. There's a myth from Jalen and Jacoby about Jalen and do brakes Jalen only made an appearance wants on the program but today since it's audio only you did the entire show with the do rag underneath the backwards cat. I want to know what you're thinking is behind this TV today. How long are we ready to do rag away the do rag for seventy two hours straight before your countdown? What's wreck strategy tragedy today? So here's the do wreck strategy if you follow my multimedia opportunities opportunities enough so very fortunate work for this fine network in ABC and the Disney Corporation and the work with you in Greeny and Lord. Maria j Jay will and Paul and RJ. So many people that are. I can't name the people that work on our show. The people that work behind the scenes whether it's camera people make people all of that one thing that if you wanna work in this industry if you WANNA book the people in this industry if you want to produce in this industry the number one thing that gets underrated is that men need grooming. is well before you go national television to talk about sports and entertainment. So since I'm not physically doing doing television Sunday Monday or Tuesday because last week I had two days Monday through Friday. I had a double header for Friday and Saturday so being off Sunday Monday not doing television in Tuesday. This is the first three days that I have done television in a really long time on any of the shows participate on so often it scheme breaking out like I said there's Mars Arthur's Jupiter Venus and then there's whatever's happening on my right cheat like that it's a it's it's it's in the satellite so I need just a couple of days to doctorate and I'm doing the same thing with my hair. No cuts. I mean I've got to say to the waivers because I am not one. Shelter razzed allege. Who got me into this world? He brought me lotion. He brought me to rest for me. Brushes he was like dog. You and your forties you gotta hairline. You got your hair doll. You need to be having some as on that thing. It reminded me of the moment win and it paid in full. Kamron told told his guy that they need to put a medallion around his his. Little brother's neck you. I'm reminded me of that moment. So shelter raised allege. So what I'm doing now. Jacoby figuring out something all waivers notice this. And I'm I'm if if we're talking about waivers and we're giving our grades migrate for myself as a D. minus McConnell. Great you know what you you from Detroit which is on a lake like your like those waves like the way you know like like one of those. Your baby wave. I've seen the real real waves. I've seen point break I've seen I've seen north shore. I've seen those waves out there. Lake wave on a on a windy day and and what I would say that I'm doing again shelter all waiver. Shot to all groomers here. The the most important thing you talk about the products people talk about wearing a do rag. People talk about all of the amazing things they're doing but just like playing playing basketball gotta brush Ghabra's gotTa brush can't do regain brush work there you go and and what I realized about myself is I think putting on a do rag is the substitution for brushing. And it ain't it ain't ain't no substitution for rush so often and I'm stepping my brush game up so give radio Wednesday. Get get to get to a voicemail and one second they want but we have some people that came into that no registered not beaches there. No raise their. I haven't heard from anybody else in the staff. Everybody else in the staff that is there. Big Shout to you guys. We got coming in just like our audience appreciates US coming into depreciate. Would you do behind the scenes but ray director for the day at a very important question question. Some tells me I've never met Ray. They probably more like he does like you. Based on this question alone he asked. What does it do rag do? Uh Oh my goodness Ray Ray. Oh Ray this is definitely cultural first off next. The other thing that I realized was cultural is where multiple gold chains that. That's also Ceylan. So here's what a do rag does. Ray It lays your hair down and or it holds Holds it usually. It's reserved for people that have long hair and styling it. Some of the styles are braids waits for example waves for example. Some people have curly hair like a like a like a Russell Wilson. I'm pretty sure sure he puts on his head at night. Where there's a do rag or handkerchief whatever you call it in and so that? That's the purpose pretty much and and another purpose that it serves when you put products in your hair. It doesn't now get them all over things that you come across you remember Jerry Curl juice get all everywhere. Oh Yeah you're saying what do people start doing wherein learn bags on their Jerry Curl Canada's same thing it does is allow the products that you may have in your hair to get on furniture in on on your bed and things like that right appreciate you ray. We also appreciate the people if you call nine eight five eight zero Jalen you can leave us a voicemail l. where it's a bunch of voice mails me. Do Pot on Thursdays. Well we'll take a bunch of voicemails then right now. We got time for one. Reggie his voice mail for today. Jalen Jacoby what's up so I got a question for you is letting your dog lick your face cultural original. 'cause my girl. Well she letting you know our dog literally make out with her anytime we can. I'm I'm not really about that. So let me know guys letting your dog lick your face. Is that cultural reasonable. I've never been one of those. I think it's gross. You know what I mean when I had a dog. I've seen what that dog put his mouth on and there's nothing that dog won't put its mouth on nothing in the world and then come and Lick my face like those are a little pot kisses either like my little twins will give me a little kiss this slobber free that dog dogs go hardman dot co hard. They thirteen year olds like in behind the school. Who'll during the dance big heart? I'm GONNA give that cultural upset people stuff. That's what I'm saying because I I had a dog that doesn't make me a dog person. I'm not let a dog make out with me or like my face. I have the perfect answer for this is regional and I'm GonNa tell you what region allows this suburbs. Okay that's what it takes place in the suburbs. Okay I remember growing up in the Mid West and I'm not saying that I'm proud of this. I Love Dogs. I had multiple audible dogs and as I started to travel. I realized I didn't WANNA keep putting my dog in the Kennel. And and also when you train your dog it becomes frustrating when you travel almost like having Almost like having a kid in a lot of ways the that you teach them they lose that teaching when you go out of town and leave your kids with the grandparents watching for movies to stand up till midnight and eating ice cream for breakfast missile. Stuff like that and you've been training for four years not to do that and then to get all gets undone but the reason why I say regional and causes suburban because i WanNa talk about something urban real quick and that's growing up in the mid-west how cold is it getting a winner in the Mid West and on the East Coast Jacoby very cold very cold rick it gets brick right sometimes even below zero. It could be blizzard. It could be snow all all weather. Terrain correct. I am old enough to remember and to you. Recall when people on the east coast in the Mid West it could be December January or could be June July. Those dogs stayed outside. Those dogs stayed outside and now I look back and realize that that's cruelty. Also you know the other thing that changed and this is why I needed to wait before I got another dog. I remember two years. You had to pick up after your dog you let it drop a load and keep it moving to walk around with a warm bag of dog poop. I'm good I'm good. I appreciate the call. Got Time for one more voicemail so remember we got a show on Thursdays we need lots of voicemails for Thursday so right now listen to this. Hit US up nine eight five. Eight zero generally voicemail. We got time for one more. What do you got koby? This is Chris and Shannon from Charlotte North Carolina. So we've got a cold for a regional question. I'll let my fiance take it from here and Alan. Hey this is Shannon who were talking with some of our friends. Then you know quick question cultural regional perms and relaxers please discuss and let us know your thoughts. Oh see some his and hers hoodies. I love this Cleveland because the growing up I had white friends in black friends and when my white friends got a perm. It made their hair curly. We my black friends got it made their hair straight and I was always just wondering how this could possibly be. I did not understand it. I'm not a hair stylist. I don't know the sci-fi perms but at first I was permit hair curly hair straight. Great so I think they're another cultural or regional is just. The effect is very different for each one. relaxers are definitely cultural. Almost blacks strong faith. I'm a man of strong faith and I WANNA go biblical here for a second. This and that question is why certain people when they read the book and they see that the Almighty head hair of wool since we believe he looked more like me than you so so. How does that affect perms relaxers? Because if you have hair like wool you definitely need a perm. It's GonNa take more than a relaxing. The late at thing down here is like they're people that have looked like me and I've tried to do it and it was one of my favorite things of all time you know. One of my favorite hairdos ever ver-. It's not even close. Were all of the key will. All of the Ku cats was doing when I was growing up. Rock and Afro House. Okay okay. Don't ever get it twisted jared Allen. I might just hug him when I see him again. I love that. He's keeping it a lot. I wish I could grow up like that or I wish I could have mine. lay down like iceberg slim. Only thing is going to make that happen as burn so with that being said is definitely cultural definitely cultural. I WANNA thank Chris. Shannon we always couples call thing a man with the cultural regional dog question and learn everybody. We're coming in another one day off staff is we are. Are we appreciate the staff very much for doing so and you should too as listeners and supports this podcast. We'll be back on Thursday. Make sure you call nine. Eight five eight zero Jalen and leave US voicemails males. WE'RE GONNA be back Thursday. Why's that Jalen rose? We're not done. We're not done. We're not done on but.
EP078: Perspectives of an Entrepreneurial Actor with Rodney Damon Collins
"Welcome to the podcast entrepreneur perspectives building in protecting your business one podcast at a time. A casual family production. This podcast exists in large part because of calcium content marketing business inside cat sourcing. So what does calcium do, you know, how many business leaders need help communicating their story will that's what we do. Content creation and distribution for business leaders just provides opportunities relationships and a platform for you and your business. Why do we do this because a calcium we exist to help business leaders? Build a meaningful legacy that is worth living. An Levy learn more by visiting calcium dot com. In this episode. We discuss acting, overcoming mental obstacles and building a personal brand. Back back. Our guest today is Rodney Damon Collins actor motivational speaker and author after a long journey of giving back overseas. Rodney currently lives in Los Angeles, California, or he's growing his acting career. You could watch Rodney is doctor Watson on Amazon prime chosen kin origins. Rodney's examples of fighting through adversity having no excuses and putting in the work. We're on full display in our chat his success on and off the screen have a so excited to feature him on this podcast. And with so much talk about let's get right into this episode. And welcome Rodney Damon Collins. Rodney when I think of acting. I always think back to when the actor actress had this leap of faith to finally put themselves out there. When did you know that you wanted to be an actor? And can you take it back to the time that you finally put yourself out there and took that leap of faith? Yeah. Well known that wanted to be an actor ever since. I was a kid kind of like, I really enjoyed it. Even when I play with my friends, we would kind of get together. And I would almost do it like a production. I would tell my friends what role the player, and it was kind of weird. But I was kind of directed them. How we're gonna do the whole deal. I had even put TV commercials in our playtime. Fifth grade. Yeah, I had to start a lot of stuff came back to the as I started working more in the industry fulltime. I was like, wow, that's actually one. My love for the arts really started. Because you know, you watch TV, and it would just have such an impact on me that I wouldn't be able to let it go. Then when I was a senior in high school. That's when it really to bug hit me, we had a competition in high school called super fella is similar to like homecoming queens for the girls super fellows for the guys and you vote for like the top five and kind of popularity and stuff up seeing in class. And it was right around the time of the Hawkins dance. We used to do that. And they don't know bills anymore. Yeah. No one girl was with Assegai out. So right, do those. But in the process of running for the super we have to find ways to promote ourselves. So I wrote directed and cast my own skit. Yeah. And I did a spoof. I did a spoof off the our city or hall. Yeah. And it it was Larry. It's I still have old footage of it. I watch it every once in a while just to remind you just back, and yeah, it kind of takes me back. And it's like, wow. That's that helps me remember my wife, but then when I got to college, I was first generation college. So there was more pressure to, you know, pursue some things where you can actually get a solid start. So to say in life after college. So, you know, I didn't really pursue the arts much in college. I did a little bit. But there was pressure to go ahead and get a degree. That's going to allow me to get a very good job and coming back home from college. I can't come home and say, hey, mom, and dad, Yemen theater, major first generation, college or all this money. You spend you I'm going to Hollywood after that. So I, you know, took on, you know, a couple of different majors major deny critical science history. It's that kind of stuff which was cool. And but I still stayed involved with the arts, then after college, it was really cool 'cause I started getting involved with some the theater work in the Cleveland area. Because that's where I moved from from Cleveland, Ohio, and it was really cool. But as far as really deciding to make that full leap, it was right after my son and daughter started college, and I realized that I had done everything that I needed to do as other to help prepare them for the next phase. And I was like, okay, I'm still young enough still in decent shape. And you know, I started looking like looking at other guys not age. I was like who are still acting. I was like, you know, I can I can do this. So I received a job offer. To move out to Los Angeles for family. So I take take the job on it was you know, supposedly, I was supposed to be like some sports camps and help to some youth development because that's one of the things that specialized it. So we get out of here and certain things that were supposed to be in place not in place for the job. So you like, oh, no, okay. It's like I'm out here in Los Angeles. Starting this job looks like these are starting to kind of go south a little bit with the job. But then, hey, I'm in Los Angeles and wanted to be here for the longest this is where I need to come in order to start Mark career. This is where I need to come to to really getting recognition. So what I did is actually went and just did a little background work. Just to kinda get a feel for you know, what the LA scene is like, and before, you know, this just work on scandal. Grey's anatomy, a little bit just to kind of learn a little bit. And I met a producer. Produce onset who developed a really good friendship. And before you know, it he loved my story. Yeah. See my work in the past and get a call from him. And he offers me a role on a TV show. And I'm like, so he calls me this. I really like your story. And you know, he was like I was in the process of show that's going to go on Amazon. And I was like well these women the audition, you said, yeah. If you want to make it harder. It was like song Rodney because I want to offer you a role on this show. Still at the time. I took the role on the self. And from that point I decided that it's time to make a complete leap into the industry and for the past two and a half three years. That's what I've been doing the time. Wow. So I mean, there's so much the unpack there 'cause you're in Cleveland, and you know, you wanna be an actor like you had seen this long before. And then certain things happen. You have children like you said, and you're raising a family, and then you kind of use this as an opportunity to get out west to get to to get to the LA area. And you know, you get out there. And it's like, you kind of mentioned this in Euboea motivational ovation guy, y'all automatically right roadblock. Rohbock things aren't working out the way they're supposed to work out. And then you get opportunities. And then you get on you just like, you drop the name Grey's anatomy, when you say you were doing work for Grey's anatomy, or some of those other shows, which is kind of like, it seems to be this is my first break in this in the scene that I needed to get there, which then. Led to someone finding you and say I want to catch you on the show. But when like what type of work were you doing on these shows, and how did you get those parts to be a part of those shows. Okay. Basically, I started out. I tell anybody who wants to learn acting don't be too big to do background work because if you go with the right intentions to learn there's a whole lot of things that you can learn about production. Learn about filming learn about how the scenes have set up and learn about how you should approach seems. So I started out co background jobs in order to do that I registered with a company called central casting out here. And they're pretty big company. A lot of popular various actors once worked for central casting. Brad Pitt fifty Hatice there's a number of actors who took that route to start up. And what it does. It's you on the set. So I was able to pull up to ABC studios in my name. And I was listed as part of the back. Ground actors for the day. So that's how I was able to get in get on the shows. I actually had a chance to be featured on a couple of shows to as an actor. It was pretty cool. Yeah. That's that's that's that's how I got on. Well, it relates to any business, right or any any career you want to get into a big talk right now. It's hard to find a job, you know, for the job that you want. Well, how can you get the job that you want? Will you go and start at the bottom? Right. And that used to be the was he started the ball, you work your way up. And you know, I've heard people say they'll go work for a business owner or the leader or the mentor in say, I'll do it for free. If I have to because that's going to be that's going to get me Ryan need to go as opposed to just taking any you know, you can't get the position if you don't do that. And it's kind of like what you did in your area to kind of find the next step. So that this individual finds you and obviously had been paying attention because you had put yourself in this situation. To be seen to be heard to someone canal pay attention to you find you and put you on the show, and then all of a sudden, you're going onto Amazon prime show is this the Amazon prime show chosen Ken or was this a show before that? This is the show chosen can't. Okay. And and, you know, since it's so important to be a person is willing to do the work behind the scenes, so many people want to become an actor. You ask them. Why do they want to do it? Some people say they wanna be famous some people say they they wanna get rid that. That's not the best reason to become an actor because there's a lot of hard work behind the scenes, I'm not telling anybody that they would not achieve that level. But the thing is you have to be willing to put into work. You have to have a passion for it too. I love acting. I love I love telling stories I want people to when they engage my work. I want them to be moved to action moved to make a change move to laugh, whatever. But you really wanna have you wanna be that type of Erica? You don't want to be an active in it just for the so-called fame because the more people I talked to the heart of the life. Is the famous actor. Yeah. So and, but it is it's very much like starting a business when you become an actor. And that's what I really wanted to make sure people understand that an actors just as much an entrepreneur as any other business owner. That's right. That's a big reason why we wanted to chat with you about it. I mean, you're talking about having this passion, and and going back right watching your senior year skit that you put on and then it's also it's like your this person that has the ultimate patients. Right. I mean, it goes back to your senior year in high school, and then going to Cleveland, and then going out to California for a job that wasn't an acting. And then here you go. And it's and you you're still practicing patients to this day because you could overstep it, and you can miss it. And then you could lose that why. And then I see it. And you're right. I mean, this is it's your the brand you're the person and you have to get noticed. But all the while you have to be patient, and you have to have that passion. Like, you keep saying so you growing up, you know, Amazon prime Netflix. I mean, who write these things didn't exist. I mean, it's it's just changed so fast, and all of a sudden, that's where the shows are, and it was pretty cool because. When I knew we were going to be chatting, and I was like, well, I gotta go check out chosen kin, and it's like, okay plot my phone, and here we go. You can watch it at any moment. What was that like just being like Amazon prime and obviously had been been going on. So this is a few years ago. I think Amazon prime was probably really starting to make their way Netflix is obviously been around, but the industry's changing and it's changing fast. Like, what is it like for you who someone who came up in in a different? I don't say different Arab. But yeah, a different era. You know, this is the most exciting time to become an actor because of all the streaming services. Let up Amazon, Hulu Netflix. I think you you have so many networks that are in established. And what it does is opens up an entirely new world for creative artists. You know, it really helped me it got me excited because twenty years ago, these type of doors were not open, you typically had to go through, you know. You know, three big three or four big networks in order to get an opportunity to be seen on TV outside of maybe landing. A big commercial that might get you now. So this is definitely made it not not easier. I won't say, but this is broad and the opportunity, and I will say more opportunities somebody who really wants to do this. They can be competitive and right there on show it started as a web series. And then before you know, it gets picked up right because that's all my show started. Hello. Hello. My show started as a web series started as a web series, then he converted it. He created a comic book based off the show who is he Nicole sparks. Okay. Nico. Sparks and any KO P A R K S Nico. Sparks is the director and writer and creator Chilton kin origins and just even created an app now for the show where people can interact with the characters go now so has gained a lot of recognition over in Europe. And in Asia as well. So it's really he started marketing to those areas. First before he brought it back to United States. Okay. So Bill found in. So I in a way he just cut out the middle person. Right. Like you hear a lot of yada singers performers. They they go on YouTube, and they become the YouTube sensation, right or whatever it is. And the enough to be a sensation. Like, you can cut out that middle person get seen by someone. And next thing. You know sounds. Like, you're getting picked up by Amazon prime if you're putting in the work and practicing that patients, right? Like, we just talked about and have a passion for it. That's exactly what happens and these streaming services, they make it. So it's it's so much more valuable to you still have to have the content, but a person who graduates from tune school, if they're writer director, they can create their own show put it right out there on YouTube. You put it out there on YouTube for free Yeah. You just applaud your episodes. And before you knew it. It's getting picked up like another show. I'm on it's called the single life. And it started as a web series and my care to plays. A pretty interesting guy named Wayne. So but ourselves just got picked up, and we're being featured at the pan African film festival next Monday night here in Los Angeles and the doing like a big red carpet, and when they with the whole care. But once again, this guy wrote this show started as a web series and it gained recognition. So it's definitely a great time for our people in our people getting up with this. You know 'cause like we talked about before. And then we say it a lot the patients part of it because you wanna get on a show, and it's like, well, okay. See I want to create a web series. I'm gonna put it on YouTube. I'm gonna put it on social media in our actors people. It's a you know, it sounds easy. It's not right. It takes a ton of work probably sleepless nights, and you and then there's so many times you're probably thinking, what am I doing? And then the people that you're trying to get people involved with it. And it's like, no one's paying attention. Right. It's like Hamilton Hamilton's off Broadway. And no one even knows what it is. And now, it's like, you know. International sensation. But it takes so much time to get to that point that I can see people saying I gotta stop like this isn't working I need to make money. I'm getting family pressure. Like, what are you seeing in Hollywood are? I mean, obviously, people are doing this. But are you seeing yet will give up to because it is a great time to be there? But there's so much opportunity. And there's a lot of people that also want to do it. So you have competition, and you know, there's a million different shows right now on YouTube, and all these other places. How do you stay motivated to stay in the game long enough to get your break? Well, you know, that's actually biggest thing is being able to hang in there long enough in order to do that you have to have other ways of sustaining yourself while you build your project, or while you focus on your opportunities in acting, and that's one of the things that I've had to work very hard at you know, I've made myself available for mentoring freelance a lot I'm a writer myself, and you'd have to have other ways it's going to support you while you pursue that. Because the biggest biggest reason his finances is why person gives a the especially in Los I city like Los Angeles. You're like, okay. The written is, but okay, I can move somewhere else, and I can live once better just get a job and just let it go. So that's the biggest issue as finances. The second thing I look at is what people struggle with and even myself is that. That do want to happen as soon as possible. You know, you see other actors getting their chance, but what I've learned is that you can they eat person has their own path and their own story. You don't compare yourself. Comparison is the thief of joy when you when you compare yourself to anyone all you're doing the setting yourself up to be you know for downfall. Because your your your whole mindset just goes it goes into the dumpster. It really does. Because so you never compare yourself. Look at your journey every single morning. I have affirmations with all over my house. My wife was like you nuts. I was I was like I have to see because as I'm reading is speaking to me, it's telling me who I am telling me what I'm doing is telling me, my why. And some of the things that drive me is one I have a wife. I a son a daughter who are looking at me and saying that we really admire what you're doing. And what am I teaching them? I giving up. So I look at that. I had that as a driving factor every day to me, it drives me to the point where hey if I have to go without sleep tonight. I'll go without sleep. I'll catch a nap throughout the day. So a person needs to have a reason why every single morning they're doing what they're doing. If you don't have that reason why every single morning, it will crush you. It will take you out. And you know, there's being honest about that. But I have seen people the people that are in my circle, we all know how to support each other. And that's another thing you have to hang with like minded people people who are progressive with their mindset people who are focused on the go similar go. Have to round yourself with those type of people anybody who's negative not saying you cut about your life. But you have to just kind of pushed them on the back on it. Because you can't you can't allow any negativity to get into your life. Every day has got to be this is one on going for this is what I'm here. Nothing's gonna stop me. And this is my little support group right here. And that's you really have to surrender. And that's I'm you. That's what's kept me over the past years because there have been times when I sit around and think now it's like man, I had a really good job a long time ago making really good money. But I wasn't happy. Right. I wasn't. Yeah. And being entrepreneur there are as when you're not gonna get sleep tonight. But then when everybody's working you're on vacation. So it's it. Well, I knew I'd enjoy this conversation because you're saying stuff this is resonating because I get frustrated, and I don't realize it when I'm surrounded by people with a lot of negative thoughts. Because it brings you down incredibly fast in its, you know, a say it, right? If you've to surround yourself with the right people, and it's it sounds easy. And it sounds cliche and all that kind of stuff, but it really works. 'cause it's amazing. When you have other people that are motivated like you said like minded and are going in a direction, and you wanna go in that direction too. It's amazing how that can bring you up 'cause just try the experiment, and then go hang out with some people that are kinda like just be negative about everything it'll bring you down. And then you practicing what you preach showing your kids like living your legacy like I wanna leave this legacy for your you want to lead us legacy for your kids. But the only way you can do that as if you show them, right? You you you like I'll stay up all night, if I have to I'll do what I have to do to make this thing work, and I'm happy. Happiest most when I'm acting when I'm party, my active business and kind of leading yourself. And then you said the comparison is the thief of joy. I mean like you just said like, yeah. Right. That on your wall, right? Then on your window wherever it has to go because it's easy to do. We live in an Instagram Facebook social media world to where over there on vacation, or they're taking pictures of this or they look like that or they have this type of job it. There is a lot that can bring out negatively because you start comparing yourself to someone else, and you see it all out it's happening with children now, and it's that's a complicated life you have to live. If you get caught up in that. So to have someone like you talking about this on our podcast at means a ton to me, it means a ton to everyone. I know that's listening his motivation, you need that find that motivation in if you don't have it internally go externally and find it in someone like yourself can help them get there. So couple of things I want to get at now is is a couple of the branding aspect of it. Because we're talking about social media lot. You have a lot of great things to say. And I would be interested. If I come across you. Let's an Instagram, and you're talking about all these things are here you on a podcast now immediately. I'm a fan of yours. I might want to watch your show now where do I find your show? How do I learn more about this guy would is he all about I wanna see him in his craft? So that's is that what you're doing with social media in then maybe showing behind the scenes stuff. But you know, because like you said you're cutting out the middle person. If I'm director of you know, if I'm trying to find new actors actresses, I might build a gone, Instagram and YouTube all these different places to to seek them out. Or I heard of this person. I could go to Instagram check them out what they're like behind the scenes, tell me a little bit about how you are working in the social media world as it relates to your acting career. Well, I definitely social media. Anything time we have to be on it in this industry. Any entrepreneur must use social media. I know a lot of people don't really like too much on there. But what I use it for specifically. I talk about. Out. What's happening? My upcoming projects. I provide encouragement for other people. Those are the main things that you will see like if you would have visit my Instagram, which is Rodney Damon Collins, our as our Rodney o or the anyway, then Daymond DA M O N C O L L S, very easy to find a lot of my social media's is geared towards driving people to their purpose. So that's the main reason why I use it. I love shared up coming projects you'll see behind the scenes of like single like if I'm said, you'll see us setting up you'll see us behind seeing chosen can't you'll see the work that it takes to really build a show. It's a really cool platform because without house social media. I think about this. It's like how many people wouldn't be discovered in this day and time there's so many people just think Justin Bieber was discovered on into you know, like, you know, you think about that. Like, wow, you know, twenty thirty years ago this stuff. Exist. You have to go and get in front of someone like a gatekeepers office in order to show them. What you get. And definitely I'm glad we do have the gatekeepers because they still help drive a lot of the industry. But now you can get out there and make yourself known to the world. And just think about the number of people in Instagram who are who make a living just doing post every day. Like, I mean, even the Brandon Bassett or also for several different companies and use my they saw my Instagram. They look what I do. And before you know, what they offered me compensation for promoting their products. So those are other ways which I've used to make money as well. You have see its influence or marketing going in. And we connected. I mean, so we get we talked a lot of PR people people trying to get them podcast. And all that in the first thing, we do is not necessarily take their word for it. Because we understand that they have a bias to get their client feature, and that's great. There's nothing wrong with that. And the way it should be someone's working for you. We immediately go to social media, right? Immediately, go to Instagram we immediately go to Lincoln and Facebook and just check the internet, and what's going on with this person. And then you can see what they're up. See what they're like, what is their voice on like, what are their pictures? What are they doing out? There are they an entrepreneur. Do they someone else have a different way of going about it? But that's how we do it. And we saw like this is someone we have to talk to. And that's that's kinda. So it's no different than if you get put in front of someone who's casting a new movie or just someone who's in the no director, and they're just checking it out like I'm gonna go. Check your Instagram, and it's going to it's already very common. I think people are like, well, no people don't do that. No. They actually do it. And we're proved that we do it, and you do it, and it's only going to become more common as things develop. And who knows what platforms will exist in a month six months five years from now. But you know, you just kind of evolve with it just like anything else just like the movie industry, and the television is evolved into streaming, and you can sit in your office and watch on your phone and close the door. You know, what I mean like there's a million ways to do this. So I'm fascinate. It'd that you know that you're taking advantage of it. And like, you said who knows what that turns into maybe it becomes influence or marketing, you just become this motivational person. And you're putting stuff out there and people are like wear my hat wear the shirt talk about this. And it's because it makes sense because you're a leader you're thought leader and people are interested in what you have to say. And then it sounds to me like you're doing this on your own because you're creating your own products as a result of it that are actually helping other people because clearly you're you're an actor clearly you provide motivation for other people. And now, you're taking all of those thoughts, and you're putting it into a book. So I'm wearing can take it and can learn about you couple of hundred pages. So let's talk about the book wins the book coming out. What's the book about? The book is official release date is March fifteenth the book is entitled shattered a journey through the pieces. It's available right now on Amazon, kindle preorder. And the paperback reorders will be available the first of March, and then the official release March fifteenth I named the book shattered a journey do pieces because it represents my life. And so many ways this is not an autobiography, but Eric all the things that I've done in my life. I spent a lot of time trying different things while I still knew what I really wanted to do. But I was thinking to myself. Okay. If I try to do this go to law school, I went to law school year, go to law school, you know, maybe that will give me that you know, that satisfaction. And then I'll be able to table that desire to be an actor. And you say, you know, what I won't worry about it. Or if I've become this real estate investor which I did that and didn't like. That or if I, you know, go to graduate school. I did that. But I've gone over to Africa to help build a school that to me was one of the most life changing experiences talk about that in the book. But one of the most important things I talked about your is in everything that I've worked on doing as an entrepreneur is that I experienced a dark time of depression. And that's something we don't share. We don't want people to know that you're hurt we were hurrying through this process. And I talk about an attempt to suicide. I really am open about it. Because I want people to know that you're not alone when you handle stops. We think about I think about crystal fan, John, I don't know if you're a young and the rest of fan, I know, I that's like nothing quiz your mind. Watch. Those guys and Christoph say John and after yesterday pass away, but we know he struggled with mental illness. It hasn't come out three thoughts of his debt is. But is one of the things that hurt me because people are struggling and people need to know that somebody is there for them and do everything that I've done I had a time where I experienced a business failure in my entrepreneur exploits, and it really took me down, and I needed to make sure that I get healthy again. So I get therapy got counseling, and I did the right thing to recover. But there wasn't time. As an entrepreneur I felt like enough is enough. And I wanna quit. I want people to know that you're not home with those feelings, but you can recover from and you can be even better than before. But you can't live life alone. No, man is island and the worst thing. I did. Was I related myself. Yeah. It's been amazing to me to see mental illness be talked about more. You're seeing it a lot with actors and actresses you've seen a lot with athletes. It's becoming it's being out there. I think I don't know why I think it's great. Because like you just said we need this need your book. Your your story has to be told. And I'm just, you know, just you just talking to in the short amount of time and learning about you like I'm excited for you that you're putting this out there. And I think it's a time when there are people that it's like you go on your senior year, and you're willing to put yourself out there. You're willing to take that leap of faith. And you take these small leaps efface because she was like, hey, if I wanna do this. I'm gonna put myself out there because you open yourself up, right? People can criticise now, you know, you can make TV show you can make movie you can put it you to video there. And people could be like, what are you doing? It's terrible. I hate it. And but or you can tell your story and people can mock it they can make fun of it. I mean, Boeing's real there's just a lot of bad stuff that's out there. But. But it's like you said once you put yourself out there, more and more and more. I think it becomes easier to tell that story. And then it helps the people that have been put themselves out there that are dealing with something I'm guessing I'm not a professional in this area by any stretch that the helps them is. Well, because like you said, then you're not alone. So you go through this time, and you do all this, and you just talked about going to Africa, and you in ethnic believe you talked about raising thirty thousand books for their library. Clearly, you have a love of learning a love of reading. I mean, you're right in your own book. I mean, it's obviously meant to you just so we understand like where when did that happen compared to when you were at your, you know, darkest moment. That actually happened before I was working for non profit at the time. I was in youth development. And I was a director over no for an organization, and we had a trip to Africa with a partner church go help build a school. So that happened in two thousand and and my wife, and I went over my wife who's in education who loved it would love the opportunity to help build a school. We had the chance to go. But they're spent three weeks we had no running water or the Tristan. So there was no Facebook in or anything it was pretty much spending time with people. And I you know, you forget how special it is just to sit around a dinner table and talk to people. Those are some of the things that we came back with the huge appreciation for was that we have to be careful about how much time we spend doing other stuff outside of just connecting with people. We had a chance to help on there and college over there. At the time college in Liberia, we are in Monrovia Liberia and not sure if you know, but they had a make your civil war which took place, and we were over there shortly after that. So it was a very difficult time for the area, but spending time with people who had little or nothing, but they had so much gratitude for life. It tends something to me. It helped me realize some of the things that matter so going on that trip that actually helped bring me back when I went through my Dr time also 'cause I was able to go back and reflect on that time. Look, I have video footage of that time watching that time even for my count, my therapist at the time that helped me when I had that dog time, and I just want to encourage everybody to find a way to impact another person's life, the more. We think about other people, and what they are trying to cheat in like the more what we are seeking after is going to happen. And I kind of, you know, paraphrase zig Ziglar, which he basically said the more you help people get what they want out of life. That's when you get what you're looking for. So I really do believe that I our job as entrepreneur we we deal with problems. And we offer solutions. Yeah. As an as an actor. I'm I'm in service offer solutions do the show you do. And if we limbo yells not for yourself at that point. And it makes it it gives you that opportunity to be your best, and right and then pull back on those times. Like, you said about, you know, watching your senior year show that you put on in remembering your y like you said, and then sounds like you're going back to your time of in Liberia employing that out like you said it it was done bad things after that happen. But those moments allowed you to pull back your y pull out your wise, it say and then to continue to go. And then a remember like, wait a second. This is why I'm doing what I'm doing. And it is. Yeah. It's like you said, it's it's talking to people it's having those interactions. Why one of the main reasons I love this podcast is I get to talk to someone like you who have never met who haven't met yet before. We've we've learned I've learned about you. And then we can have a conversation. We can get deep with things and get real with it. And I can learn from it. But it's just conversations. It's like is the reason I like listening to other podcasts in other conversations because you can feel a part of it, and you can hear their stories. That's why I think people engage with actors and actresses that you can watch this. And you can like you just said you're doing it for somebody else. And it might be completely not real. But at the same time, it's important. It's important to have those moments. Thankless people like sports, for example, as they can get out of their own head and get into something else. And I remember when I had my kids, and I realized at the time when my kit needed something what I needed was not was unnecessary. I mean, obviously needed what needed the basics of life. But like I needed to focus on that. And it completely took out any self doubt or negative thoughts. I had because my only moment at that moment. I doubt my kid out. And I still feel that. Way. And I always feel like if you're helping somebody else like you said that all your own head trash, or whatever you got going on in their kind of disappears because you're helping somebody else now, and they're the priority and. Nice amazing. You know, kind of the journey you've gone on to kind of get where you are today and to have these incredible thoughts and share it with us. Like, I said before like, we need your book, and we need other books like other people that tell their stories in for you to continue acting to community get found because it's an important part of what we're all doing. We we need we need people like you. Well air we need people. Like you also. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. This is a collaborative effort. Well, it's like you said, it's like you said when you when you say it like that. It's like you're talking about the people working background, right? It's the director. It's you don't see. And you hear about it all the time. And you're like we want to thank the people. You don't see these people? But without these people the show does not happen. You know, and I've seen comedians up on stage reflects a comedian. He was like before even started his show. He started talking about everyone. You couldn't see from the person who sweep on the floor to the person that sold you the tickets to the people doing the lighting, and he started making fun of the guide lighting because he couldn't keep up with them. But it was like hadn't fun with it. And it's like those without those people to help they couldn't tell their story that they needed to tell, you know, without Amazon, an Amazon, kindle, I wouldn't maybe be able to read your book because I like to read my books on kindle, right? Even means so many different ways to look at. You know, I wanna share something to these. That was so that stood out so profound with me the first time I ever did a background job. It was it was scandal. It was like the scandal season. Finale a few years ago several years ago, and I'm like, are you kidding me background? I'm young going to work them scandal. And so I get on the set and USC they basically have taken the basketball Rena, and they've converted into a complete Republican convention. That's what they did. It was amazing. So I I walk in there and. Standing right next to me. And I'm like. You know? I'm just like, okay. Let me compose myself keep composure act like being here before you know. That's what they say. He's gonna test act like before this, right? But so then before you know, what they grabbed me and Carrie Washington walks out. And I was like. So curious standing right there. And there was like we want you to stand right with her while she does these these lines and stuff. So I'm standing right here. My first day ever doing it. And I'm learning from somebody who is like one of the top actresses in the world. It was amazing. It was an of mazing spheres. But what happened is after K Washington was done for the day. Was he stood up and said to every background after it was paying you. Because without you. We do not have a show. I started out in background. I know what it needs to do 'cause work, and you are greatly appreciated for what you do. And I was like, are you kidding me? She doesn't she doesn't have to do that, you know, but she show her life a little bit. Like, hey, I I was there before I know what I know what you guys are going to hang in there your chances coming your opportunities coming but you have to stay in the game long enough. But also you matter now, if you're doing now matters, so and that's the thing is that every time I step on set. We've never I'm doing it matters. And that's what I love about my job. I wanna encourage anybody whatever they do as an entrepreneur wherever you doing it matters to people somebody needs that somebody needs that service, and you have to have that feeling in that drive every single morning when you get up. That's it. I mean, it's it's a simple as that. And you said it too because she doesn't have to say that. And so in in there's nothing there's no reason she just like really does not have to say that. And then to say into remember where she came from. Right. That is critical, and that's you remembering where you came from as you continue to go on your career. That's why you're giving back with your book. That's why you're having this podcast. And that's why you're you share your stories on Instagram because you remember where you came from you want to help other people you wanna bring other people with you. And I think that's something that never liked all of that. Now, Ron I appreciate all your thoughts on this on just the motivation your. Story. You know, you kind of take us, you know, to places that it's just we have to understand where someone like you has been the now to look at you as it's fascinating and work cited to continue to watching it. And what I wanna do. Now, though is go into a little question. Quick answer. If that's all right and get you out of here and get on with your day. So yeah. So I know you're watching TV as well. And there's tons of shows I always talk to people in their like, she see the show. Did you see that show, Mike? I hadn't heard of that show. There's so many shows are so many movies. There's so many things to watch. And it's it's awesome. I love it because you can get turned onto something new all the time. But if you think about it what show on Netflix, Hulu or any or Amazon prime. Are you binge-watching right now? Besides your own, of course. The show grief. I was watching Jason Bateman. So yes. In missouri. Good can't remember the name of the city right now that they're in. But is such a cool show. I watched the first season the second season. And what I can't remember the city that they're in. But he was an accountant for county. They were involved from the so a lot of his partners ended up getting killed. And then you get forced to go to the city, and basically they kind of a drug runner for the mob. This is those are great. They're gonna kill. Yeah. Ozark? Yeah. I could I looked on while we're talking I discerned it because I wasn't coming into my head either. And I knew what it was. I couldn't think of it. Yeah. Ozark is like 'cause you know, I'll turn it on, you know. So that's one of the shows that I'll sit down, and you know, when I get when I get time, and I can watch five or six episodes. And then there's another show called all all American on the CW. Now, it's not it's not on streaming services. But I only can watch it on demand. Most times never home. Right. So I have to record a ten episodes now to sit down and watch them all at once. But I love that story about this guy comes up in the inner city, Inglewood company area of Los Angeles. And then he gets recruited to go play football at Beverly Hills high school and the challenges of doing from the inner city to vary area. How he has to coal switch and how yes it be a different person in these two places and struggling with identity, and it's an incredible show. I love all Americans. So those who shows right now. They have me. And I and when I watch my study, I'm really doing homework, I watch everything now with the critical is no longer just for entertainment. I'm working on his act. Will you're not just a consumer anymore, your producer. And that was one of the first things I learned is don't just consume produce something with it. And that can mean you can't consume it. But learn from it and use it in your craft or whatever you're trying to do and your thought process. So no, I makes I mean, it makes it of sense to me. So you've looking back on your career and acting and take it anytime that you ever have, you know, acted was your favorite character. You've ever been a character. I've ever been. I'm not to say my favorite characters Dr Watson on chosen can. Yeah. Because this person as he is the character continues to develop there's a lot of things you're gonna see. I m I I like in him to like a Nick fury type person from he's he's going to more. He's one of the more from become that type of person right now. He's got a mysterious. I knew a lot about the origins of the superheroes. I know a lot about the intending danger does coming to earth, and I'm just trying to figure out a way to combat that as well as deal with some of the criminal elements on the shell. But my characters, but he's a pretty cool. Character is very very important to the development of their show as well, as we have a feature film that's going to be produced by a company buffalo eight it's going to produce a feature film for us which shows in Canada, it's going to help tell the story even more a while. So that's going to become it's going to become a film now on top of. The show that you have. Yes. Yeah. That's awesome. All right. Social media. We talked about it before we know us Instagram, but what is your favorite social media out as it relates to business Instagram, really? Really? It's a fast commercial. Yes, commercial? No attention span of people is very short now. And what a what you can do. You know, you separate surrounds where post on your Twitter, your Facebook and everything else all at one time. So you go on Instagram. I find that most people who are either promoting themselves or business, whatever they use us ground. That's what I love. That's a great way to say too fast commercial. And I think that makes it makes a lot of sense. So you mentioned sports a little bit. And so I'm gonna give you right now for the rest of your life. You're allowed to root for one sports team. What team is that? You said one four one teams the rest of your life. You've got us right now. Well, I'm gonna have to you need probably gonna call me a Homer, but whatever of bandwagon, but I'm Cowboys fan since I was five years old. A ride or die with the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah. And they broke in my heart a few times when they beat the Bill I'm from Buffalo, New York originally and the college two years in a row man, just took us out. But Cowboys have been like successful. But they haven't I know they've struggled recently mean the bills to make the playoffs anymore. So that's another story. But Cowboys at least get to the playoffs. They just don't seem to do a whole lot. Once they get there. I guess is the biggest. Yeah. Watch I take whenever I get a chance and Stephen Smith those rag on them and say, they're accident where he happen. And honestly, I haven't been able to argue with that. It's like, yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. If people love to create hot takes especially around those polarizing teams because you could say something good or bad about the Cowboys in so many fans that you're going to get them. You're gonna get some outrage on social media, right? And it's going to help with their viewership. So. Yeah. He riles up. Okay. So real quick. So you you spent some time in Cleveland did you find? I know you're only root for the Cowboys. But did you generate a love for the teams in Cleveland as well. Yes, I do. I I love creed craven Browns. I love the I wanna see the team win and we cover I I'm so happy this past season that they had success Baker Mayfield. I think if I'm gonna say give them time to develop and grow that, you know, the Browns are going to be a team to be dealt with in the future. And when you look at the history since the Browns rescue and came back in ninety nine they've been the worst team NFL since. So it's like, you really wanna see them we cover. I actually did some work for the Cleveland. Cavaliers in early two thousands. I used to work on promotions during the game. So I used to be on the guys running out on the court in fans down there, the participating the games. And so once again, my personality to get out there and having fun did that in front of twenty thousand people. It's fun. But I wanna see the Cavaliers we cover. Yeah. I definitely love what LeBron is dunked with them. And nobody can be upset with him at all. He he gave Cleveland everything he could. No, man. But I wanna see organization recover. And I think, you know, they they're in for a, you know, a rebuilding time. So I'm not sure how long this process is gonna take. But they. Yeah. They had had a credible run. Yeah. And you were gonna talk say the Indians. Yeah. You know, the Indians, man. I I still feel like, you know, been close to World Series. Tell me about it SARS. Yes. In fact, with the Braves, and then the Marlins Marlins that series should have been done and then the clubs then it just keeps on going, right? Yeah. It's like can one of these teams do it. So. Yeah. Cavs. When won the championship. It was an incredible feeling. But I was like I wanna see the Browns the Indians. Yeah. Return to prominent. No, I I hear you there. My fan on some fathers from Cleveland, my grandparents lived in Cleveland, I'm from buffalo. So it's is, you know, it's just right? I ninety and I grew up a huge Indians fan and have always had a love for Cleveland for Ohio State Buckeye fan. My parents met there in it's just there's just the deep rooted nece in those teams in those in that city in in that state general just like buffalo, Buffalo's got the same thing. I mean, I could argue that the maybe the worst team since ninety nine it's been the bills not the Browns. But that's that's that's one of those like the toilet bowl conversation. But you know, what I'm saying? But it's I totally agree with you. And like when LeBron one I'm not a Cavs fan. But you know, you rooting for the city you really are. And it's the it's the right? That's the kind of team. It's kind of. City. Great fans. So I'm glad you got to spend some time. And I could see that you get in on the court and getting the fans involve them, you have an infectious laugh and just a desire to help people motivate people, so I can imagine that was that was a lot of fun for you and is part of your career. Like right just getting people involved in helping people have a good time. And there's nothing wrong with having a good time. And so what I wanna do. Now, though is one last question and find out how people can connect with you before that ask you. This was the moment. You told yourself you needed to make it happen. And you gave yourself no excuses when I finally just said, no more excuses, and I'm over three years ago when I decided to be fulltime after and I basically left all the comforts of employment. You know, so-called comforts of having a paycheck every couple of weeks. I it took me because the job that I had I basically laid off for a. A you know, he laid me off. And then I basically took four months, I collected unemployment for five months. I just wanted to get myself together. You know, my wife was okay with it. And I just spent every single day meditating on what I need to do next. And I was like this next thing. I do this next step. I make there's no stopping I'm pushing all the way through and so after evaluating going back and forth over what decision to make. That's what I decided over three years ago. I was like there's no stopping it. And no matter what no financial is, you know, Muslims not this on a stop this next thing from happening. Yeah. That's the and you know, the more determined that. I've been the more things worked out. Well, I can hear it. I mean, I hear it in your voice. I hear it in your stories, and, you know, take pulling it back and pulling out your y and and go into that roller coaster ride that it is, and and, you know, reaching a low point, but then coming back up and here you are. And like I said just a little while ago, your infectious laugh just personality it's been a pleasure for me to just have a conversation with you. It's it's just good stuff man ano-another way to say it. But I appreciate the time you spent with us, and I wanna know what's the best way. People can get a hold of you. And to learn more about you, and your what you have going on. Man. I would love to connect with everybody listening. Thank you guys for listening to so it can reach reach me to Instagram at Rodney or the y Damon DAM win Collins C O L, I, N S or Facebook. You can I have a fair page on Facebook. As Rodney thing Collins, actor speaker that page right there, you can get connected on there. Or if you've probably on Twitter Rodney Damon Carlynn they didn't allow me to put the S ran out of room. Oh, we don't have anymore room is gonna keep right here. Gotta make myself on those. And you'll see announcements the book release, and I'll be doing even I'm going to be launching my own podcast in the near future. Dealing more with my book, and really just helping people mccur djing people from that smart, man. That's a good move by you, a podcast or mazing platform. We'll put all that stuff in the show notes and just want to say once again, Ronnie, thank you so much for the time, you spent for motivating us for telling us your story, and it's been an absolute pleasure. Eric. Thank you very much. And I look forward to talking to you soon. Oh, one more thing. Yes. Anybody Charlotte area. Make sure you go. Check out this restaurant called the belly grill. It's over in. Matthew's that's also poof would so mazing about that is it's right down the street from her office. So a lot of people that listened to the podcast are local to this area and people outside of area too. But man, we'll be telling anyone that comes in here where they need to go get lunch and dinner. And it's literally probably like seven minutes, not even down the street from our office by five minutes. So nice awesome man off. Yeah. Absolutely. We'll Ronnie thank you again. And we will chat soon. Eric, thank you very much. And then have a great day. Rodney, it has been absolutely awesome. Having you on this podcast from your stories from the acting world to helping those in need. We are all better off from the time we spent with you the perspectives from Rodney on making no excuses and taking the next step in the journey and Al perspectives. You the business leader can use for yourself. And for that Rodney, thank you. And for anyone looking to talk to Rodney about his book and career. We encourage you to reach out to him. If you have questions feel free to reach out to meteorically, you can find me on Lincoln or contact me on Twitter and Instagram at Eric underscore caz. Thank you for listening to our Kesslers podcasts entrepreneur perspectives building and protecting your business one podcast at a time. Until next time. We're out of here. This podcast exists in large part because of Casio the content marketing business inside Kesslers Inc. Calcium is excited to bring the content marketing services use the castle to you. Learn more by visiting calcium dot com.