19 Episode results for "Colin Mcrae"

Ott Tnak Takes The Title And Fernando Alonso Talks About Dakar Rally

Gravel Notes with David Evans

25:14 min | 11 months ago

Ott Tnak Takes The Title And Fernando Alonso Talks About Dakar Rally

"Finding the right pros for home projects can be tough and spark a lot of questions like as you to the right pro for the job in seconds and even helps you get a fair price read reviews welcome to grabble notes David with fortunate because I'm going to grab a few minutes whereas with Mr Tannock and you Nisa sorry didn't really give you much of an inscription it could be calling look later I suspect it's really amazing drama fiercer really Donald since since the middle of last year absolutely I'm not take the fastest car out there I had one or two programs this year mainly technical even for the sport stack is great tax fines for the sport the maybe more Estonians every single one of them had walked four and a half kilometers so you don't forget how lucky we are doing a job clearly David as only because we are searching navigating in writing we are but sunsetting so I do hope we get here before breakfast. He hasn't allowed himself to be distracted by the championship you know he's been in a really weird the unit very fortunate because we've known him a long time and we do get on very well with them but are now seeing for the first time when I was young I went to the Open Golf Tournaments and Andrews Wade Davis Takata Hai retirement we should be fine I the program we had every single autograph in the program apart from balanced route and quite arrogant but he was focused on the job that he had to do what used to get and why are those people start as low barrier that was oh I know I did I go all the way here but I recognize sinologist he did seem aloof he did seem disconnected from the fines and the media that completely focusing his attention is concentration on the event and he now has the ability to kick on a become a truly great champion Eh. You're asking him questions on Science Colin McRae Richard Burns these guys were intense what we listen to what what you world champion has to say this is what tonight talked yeah it's been even more than a few years but yes if we'd been in the fire we've been in the war you know all these difficulties have given me some strength and just over an hour you've been a world champion does it begin to sink in a little bit now I the week it was quite difficult to go go with all this you know and things like this so you know it's always a reminder of the riskier aching and equal to put this package together and they know how to do and what to do but during then it was a beach Ellen's this weekend we saw I into no driving actually Friday was not so bad obviously the offensive it's different and I really struggled to to get could include us all the road and I was striving more by by looking oh well this is to relax and start doing our job so it's woolly or gradually speed up so yeah we manage to do it and just everybody on on Oj and what he had to do to stay ahead and then he went and it was eastbound staring from I knew quite well what what chances also Jerry can never take these risks and he was three them but generally was really cost this weekend so take the fight at the same rhythms yesterday and Anthony Obviously Ah just let it go like this and yeah applied to date the maximum points now and then we can't stop without talking about that power station I have to say when Schlei had pressure and the law states and so on and everything possible yeah hi I managed to work it out I managed to relax and the really on a clean line and and let's say them too much yeah yeah of of course as say the stage before this is definitely going wait that may be Jerry doesn't get maximum points for too many points and breath and I mentioned this but in the middle of the rally there was a certain story rumors but Yeah you know these stories you always get in this Ori home early or what's the plan yeah I'd like to spend some time with family I have congratulations thank you so that was that was his new champion again insulation Komo around where we find where we find we hunger last which on fantastic just any completely overshadowed his twelfth win in the world rally all of the highland team okay you'll tackle supreme in that final stage managed it limited dominate the events to threaten the dates I written away before they did a damn let's go back team walking brilliantly they needed to sort out because in terms of Tomek writing on the wall they have no idea of how to beat the Toyotas in Germany but also Donnie sorta always expect that patient Denny Sorta in Spain Sebastien favorites for the manufacturers this year we go on to stray of the final round walk well dilemma good starting position they absolutely they will have we seen the end what what journalist you may wrong way remember feeling right now left lane what's this lady I've Noah tape delay these problems as well so don't worry on your own I think I think really talk about what Finola answers doing out first of all you'll hear from yeah that I just wanted to say David we were joking when we said You have certified stages into high and I it

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Colins Story

Men Who Matter

22:08 min | 1 year ago

Colins Story

"The. Back everybody while podcast men who matter Steve list, and always have Brandon specs me college. Some crazy name Roach, but I didn't. I still couldn't figure out where you're going. So you're still ahead for keeping score. We're back today's an awesome day. Steve. I'm really excited because one of our good friends Colin McRae's joins us today, and I'm colon a few years ago through mutual friend and our relationship has just become such a blessing to me. Colon manages and stewards, the true vine foundation in utilize among its Mamie, one of the most beautiful pieces of property in the state if not beyond and what colon and his team are doing. There is amazing work because of their location. Right. They have this distraction free environment, so teams from all of the region, whether it's sports teams are charged groups or community groups, they come in for this leadership development this team, building experience, and it's amazing because it's kind of remote and just for short period of time you're able to take away these these elements that distract us every day and get us all focused in one direction. So I love what you guys are doing down there. Thanks, man. Yeah. Me too. I just met him this year and. I've been in the auto industry for thirteen years, I pretty much mob mob, business career and personal life, all revolve around outdoors and you run into a lot of people who like the hunt and liked to fish, but you rarely run into someone who has the level of passion for. And that's what I was so attracted about. And I loved it and I just met you quickly in love with all this. Do you just just what you represent and and, and what you live every day? And, and even you know, we've got an opportunity to spend some time out on your, your place and, and truly his an awesome place. And so thanks for hanging out with a little bit today for shea per sheet that. Yeah, I mean, I think I think you of hunting. But when I when I first met, you and I think Brandon can back up. I mean you love the outdoors you, you love hunt fish, but there's something about waterfowl that really gets you go and to tell me about till till everybody about your love for waterfowl. Where did it come? Forget can there was one of those iconic picturesque Cyprus walks the kind that would Eason merge, like hang out in and. And my dad had taken myself and my brother out to, to killer tree, and I just had those this hip boots on had a Stevens single shot break action. Twenty gauge we were at this tree in this, this, this would came screaming by, like they do dodge Tris at nine it enough in it's a pretty epic thing to watch in. I put the be on the bird and in the bird got the best of me. Because he as I fired, he had he had told me about ninety degrees from when I picked him up. So I was looking almost macwoods in into the frigid cold water win. And as dad took me to the to the old blazer in fired up to get me warm, and, and get my toes in front of that heater that it, it resonated with me because this is way more proactive than deer hunting, where I'm sitting in a Stander, or in a box is, it's, it's incredible in that the best time to cut are the most miserable conditions. And I just it just hit me. This is cool. This is a this is where I can thrive as a naturalist is an outdoorsman as hunter, as, as a steward. It really resonated. When I went to school, my buddy, would you do you in Belay? What I did I fell in frigid ice, cold water, while shooting guns at birds? You know, and that's and they were like that's a lot cooler than than building. The former backyard, you know, you got to do it with guns in frigid water. So in, in, that's when duck hunting became it became a passion in that the, the more poured into creatively. It was special because it ought to skin in the game a whole skin in the game. Isn't it crazy? I when we tap into these, these memories, these really, really important moments in our life. The details come back. It's crazy. How that experience men in March you really made impression on you but. You grew up around it, which I think, is incredible, because it's different than the way I grew up didn't grow up around the outdoors from a young age. I'm kind of late into the game. But I think your story my story or still similar because we both reached a point everyone reaches this point of get a little bit independence, and I'll get a little bit of try to feel out some of the things, and so even growing up in the environment where you grew up with those awesome experiences. You know, you still reach the point of spread my wings a little bit. I wanna get away and kind of see what the world has to offer. And so I know you stepped away from Alabama stepped out away from the foundation that property for a little while in your journey. What was that part of your story like? Like most, you know, if you if you go up in a secure home, his awesome in when you when you leave the nest, you're exposed to things quickly, and thank goodness had parents who poured into me, and gave me some foundation values. Always had always had. It was really weird. Always had this, the faithful relationship like a new God, God. And he was in charge of mountains. But, but I wasn't very dependent on him like a awful at spending time in the word awful at being attention about having a community of believers that share time. And and, and. Just fellowship with Tom coffee with in, in. That the Silivatere. All of these kind of adventurous type scenarios that I would go through to fill that void you know. Great time, you know, but nothing that ever did had any kingdom impacter eternal purpose, you know, and so therefore, it's kind of a loss of book, you know, so you have this, so you have this this journey season where you're kind of expansion on this, all this life, stop really not in the context if you could go back and do it again. On this side of perspective. But there, but there's this moment where you, you come back, and I wouldn't I wouldn't go as far as maybe saying the, the product, son, because it doesn't sound like that. But it's element of I'm coming back and getting back in the lane of in, in dinner. Fine. The reason why I'm here, one, I'm supposed to be doing and, and kind of leads into that moment that moment of were you return, and you have this moment this experience of you see it, you feel it. You experience, what I'm supposed to be doing while I'm supposed to be doing it tells a little bit about that, that moment. So I didn't know how jacked my wife was until. Until I had that. That external experience outside of church or small groups or bowser whatever, and it was a very tangible. Tangible moment like a literally tangible moment. So you actually had a moment after after stepped away from everything that you grew up around and kind of try to do it on your own. You had this moment, where just felt like you found your space. You found your zone, right? It was planting the vineyards, so I came back from school, and we decided we needed to do something to, to make the place profitable, and we plant his vines and after we did. It was pretty crazy. Sorry. So I felt everybody had gone. We'd planted maybe five hundred mines and. I felt something so tangible. Like, the, the God said you're you're on the path that have chosen for you have created for you. I mean it was like eat. It could taste it. You know, like it was that time when I realized, wow, everything up until that point from leaving the, the. Incredible environment of my family. My home in going off to boarding school. And then going off to college that was just tons of fun. Tons of incredible accomplishments. I feel like not from a scholarly standpoint, but certainly from extracurricular standpoint. Even even mission trips to, to Tamala thinking Mana, so that's going to lot differently. My mind. Because I it was like zillion along. In. So that's the kind of stuff that I was giving myself pats on the back and sticking feathers, my cap. But then that day that, that we planted vineyards and had that experience. I want to literally felt the presence of God, give me the okay a new okay. I'm doing what he wants me today. And so from that point. I kind of figured out that okay we'll that's how it makes me feel when I recognize that, that I'm on the path that he's created for me in fulfilling that plan on thinking need to stick to it. You know. And so, yeah. I. That pass directly required dependence right in him and not not independence from. Him in. That's a hard thing for, you know, a young professional or still kid when you're out you're young twenties. The hard thing to grasp threw up your mind around. I mean that's true. Because it really is. I mean it's tough to, to be a man and be be chasing these things, and be, so I got to control it. I gotta get my stuff. I got I gotta make it happen. Right. And, and really, what we're finding out and what we're living out is there has to be an element of dependence in your life. In other words, like it can't all be on you. Because if it is that's a bad position. I don't want it to be all about me. I don't want it to be all on my shoulders man because I know I'm limited, right? Struggle is real. Right. Even when your independence and you think he got it all figured out. And if I had not had those experiences as a child in, in, in my parents had created those incredible memories in opportunities to porn to me into stash core values. You know, it would have been a lot harder for me to circle back in remember what is important. One of the things that you mentioned was this installment of core values into your life. Brought on by by your dad and your experience which really kind of set you on a path moving through your developmental years, and then eventually coming back to Utah, and I think that's an important thing to talk about one of the. Core values. We talked about it a couple of weeks ago defying the non-negotiables in your life. Finding those things that no matter what happens out here. Like these are the things that are these aren't gonna change in what if some of those core values for you for Cullum, cry that have shaped your, your life, your impact shaped your journey everywhere you've been will for sure. The culture of honor. That's that's so important in in my life. And I think. Trust is, is epic in, in that so many things have to go into trust for it to happen. For trust to, to, to be utilized in relationships on. There's gotta be accountability. There's gotta be. Transparency in s not just. Malaysian ships like marriages, that's relationships. Like businesses in friends for that matter. You know. Depend on, on my inner circle of, of dudes to be incredibly honest, with me about my character to hold me accountable for fall short with things like like. Kindness. Love the fruit of the spirit is all you need, you know. But the one that that really resonates with me, because it's just so peachy as joy, you know, a love joy because I'm kind of grumpy person when I'm around joyful people. They let me out a love that. But on the ropes course we on the rich courses, we, you know. Trust in the count ability or a really big. Because they're kind of foundational for the other core values that are so important for your success. If it's relationships or business, or, or whatever they gotta be there. They're going to be in place for you to be able to grow. In, in a normal environment. Of course. So we always like to leave our listeners with a step and action. Step something tangible something walk away with work on implement do right now this week in by soft what you guys do at the foundation and what you see from week to week. What, what could you give everyone listening something tangible to walk away with today? Right on one of the tools that we've seen a tremendous amount of value in is for teams to either come with their contract or their core values or be prepared to, to ought to pin them to alter them to figure out what they are. Great example, is a team that came couple of weeks ago league team that's quite well. The acronym for their team name, the bandits and super simple, bsb believed is attitude in his no fear, Diese termination is integrity is toughness in SF crisis. And so once those are dentist. Guide then we have the opportunity to hold each other countable. In. It's even that much more powerful to create that, that. Incredible accountability tool if everyone signs it. Right. And so now you have a contract where I can tell you account if I don't see that your your attitude is up to par like your attitudes cramp, my style. So, hey Steven Brandon a neat. I'm not hearing all because your attitudes must or you can come to me and say, hey, you're a lot tougher than that you can fight through some of these issues that, that we see that you're having. And it's it is just an awesome tool even heard some people in their in their lives, when they go home. They have these margin plans in, they ask their spouse and their best friend to sign off on at margin plan after they do it. And it's you know with with life how much Tomoe put in the failing town up in a work, how much time to open a health, which town hobbies in then. All right. There's a plan, Honey will you sound off on this or be? I agree with it. And if you do you saw on this in, I invite you to hold me accountable, if you see me slacken up right there, man. That's that's awesome. It's that's beautiful. Man. I mean we so the challenge this week is maybe sit down and find a set of core values that really speak your language that really speak into your life. Put him down pin them, put them in a place where you can show someone because that element of showing someone like you just said, there's a difference between you holding yourself accountable and you putting yourself in position while someone else can hold you accountable, but you putting putting me in a position where I can't come to you and say right man you're tougher than that, man, you're stronger than that. And look, this is this is what you stand for versus you always trying to fight through the head games and fight through your own struggle to, to live out. Those core values. You not have someone not only holding you cannibal, but speaking life into like like you. No, you're tougher than that. You know, you're stronger than that. You know, that's not what you believe, and so the walkaway as we ended today is gasping. Sometime time find a word that, that, that you really can hold onto like, you know this baseball team use and bandits or you know, even we did this at grip. I mean grip is an acronym for our core values. I mean, we're going to put God first, we're going to be relentless in pursuit. We're going to be men of integrity, and we're going to be passionate about everything we do. So maybe find a word that you can fit those letters in that are some core values that really speak to your life and put them down write them down. And then bring show him the somebody so that they can be. They can hold you accountable, not only hold. You can of what they can fight that fight with you. And because look be being a man being a man that has values of in amend stands on principle. I mean that's sounds awesome. But there's going to be challenges that I mean you're gonna you're gonna. To get attacked. You're gonna those those core values will be pressed. If not daily there, all the time you're gonna have to stand up to them. And so who, who do you have in your life that will help you do that who stand shoulder to shoulder back to back in fight that fight for you to be a man of values? Because if you do we believe, as always, we believe that taking these steps, you'll look up, and you'll be living a life too far greater than you ever hope for magin, you'll be living out a purpose that was created for extrordinary results, and you will be experiencing more fulfillment in your life than you ever have. And so, man, thanks for hanging out with this, this week. I'll be love as I said in the beginning. I'll just love your level of passion for the outdoors, not just your, your enjoyment of the outdoors, but you're passionate about it. And it's it's a Soltan love when I meet people who have the same kind of soul Tien so men until next week. Remember, you're a man who matters. Don't forget it be. You got anything man Colin thanks again for coming in today. I love you, dude. And I love what you guys are doing at the true vine foundation. I just think it's so amazing for you guys. Listen out there. Don't forget this Friday, March fifteenth, the first men who matter event right here in Alabama. Check our website grip, while dot com for all the information we're giving away a bunch of stuff a bunch of hunt year. Everything you need to get set up for this season this year coming up. So check it out rip while dot com. The first men who matter event Friday, March fifteenth, seven PM. It's free. You gotta be there, and that's going to do it for this episode of the men who matter podcasts. So until next time, remember, you are men who mentors get after. Get after.

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This Week with Wayne Taylor Racing: Lamborghini Super Trofeo Driver Sandy Mitchell

Pit Lane Parley

16:59 min | 4 months ago

This Week with Wayne Taylor Racing: Lamborghini Super Trofeo Driver Sandy Mitchell

"Welcome to another episode. Welcome to another episode of Peeling Parlay. I am your host. Mike Joke them joining me today from Wayne Taylor racing in the Lamborghini Super Truffaut Series. Is Sandy Mitchell Sandy? How are you this morning or afternoon for you? And how's everything going during quarantine right now are functional having me Yeah no I mean. I'm I'm getting on in the UK weeping on hopes Turner for just a month and really so Yeah really just being at home and pretty much the whole time and yeah I mean there's no easy for everyone but I think especially up here in Scotland so Richard. I where we seem to be doing quite well. And and most people are are sticking to the lockdown reels from the government and We seem to be kind of over the the peak of everything and they're starting to talk about how we're going to get back to normal but Yeah like you said so difficult time and for everyone and Claxton Jr. but I'm I'm getting on just fine so while you're at home. Are you able to join the I? Racing craze or anything like that to stay busy in terms of the racing world. Yeah a little bit. So I've not had a home simulates before more used than one is I buy teams on simulator companies to prepare for racist tones because of this Downtime that looks like we're we want how driving for a while I've been able to offer a home simulator. So I've been doing that over the past month or so and getting all the parts and and building it myself so yeah a little bit stressful but it could have something to do during this time and I got up and running just sitting on my steering wheel. So I'm using a Logitech playstation. One old place from abroad yes. I've just joined by racing a few days ago and getting up to speed on that. So it's it's fun to keep me shopping and race ready a journalist Einstein. Yeah it's definitely very interesting to watch. I don't do it myself but are probably because it's it's quite expensive but so you've only been doing. Ira sing for a couple of days. But how lifelike do you think? The simulator is for whatever races there or cars. You're using currently yeah. I mean I think I mainly bending certain. Gte Very soon or Jalen ESPN being. Good Fun I also feel like they. The Games Simulation is on on the PC are getting more realistic. Obviously as as the progresses on some the pedals and steering motors and things like that that you can get for these simulators are better and yeah. It's feeling fear more more more like the real thing and I. I think they're good. Sny Is the worst especially these days. There's so many online races and and you know just things like doing race starts or having to League races while staying calm inkling that is so good just Because sometimes you get lost in the game and start feeling like you're you're in the radio car because you do have to focus very highly and Yet bring us us. Well Awesome so. I usually save this question for the end but I'm Gonna I'M GONNA switch it up and put it in now. We're doing a driver's spotify playlist this year and I'm I'm putting more effort into it than I did last year to remember to actually ass drivers so if you were to listen to one song before a race whether it be a real race or an IRA sing event. What Song is it? Or what artist would it be? Good Question I personally if I was to come up with a couple and there's one a song called Trumpian by UK. Artists called chipmunk and features Chris Brang And it's it's The oldest eleven or so and I was like I remember listening to when I did my first national costing race Garden in England. Which was a big deal for me on there. It is about time and whenever I listened to a just reminds me of of the feeling of that we can and yes I go. I'm very kind of meaningful attachment. Which is why I would. Maybe listen listen to that before the race because it gets me pretty hyped up on them. Yeah I still like so I love it so I will add that to the list and now that we have enough songs. Everybody who's listening. I will publish this on our social media Only about a year behind schedule on that one. So you mentioned you are carting so he started in Karting back in two thousand fourteen. Maybe a little before that when you were in. Karting back then and you're going. Okay where do I want? My career to go was It looks like Lamborghini was the next step after that. Was that kind of your thought. Was You know you wanted to head into sports cars? I after you progress from Karting. I always heard quite an open mind really I. I went on. I thought it was very much just as something to do with my dad on a weekend. Once or twice a month for the fun of my Dad's always beating the cars and and and I've kind of grown up watching sport and being a big fun of things like the bridge too and cars and I was one of the things like that. So yeah the cartoon was great fun and like I say the star it was very Jacoby and then like any sport. I guess if you if you notice that you're becoming quite good at it you kind of just just roll with it. So Anna Nice to win the Scottish chomping ship in the Cadet Cross and then came runner up in the British jumping ship and then a couple of years later when I was fourteen I won the British Carson Junior championships so then after that I was looking towards going into cars and trying to make my career and like most young drivers seats to begin with so I did one year far before jumping ship and it was a really strong greater. A couple of 'em cutting indycar drivers like colts inherited the case sliced Londonorce. You're talking to and if the other team so you know really really strong grade than and I came. Second Highest Ricky and not year and looking to kind of aggressive single re at that point but just the opportunities that came up to me and GT's Suited me better US young driver for budgets and sponsorship and then you take the GT's and no gain lamborghinis from tastic. I'm thoroughly enjoying a great series so taking a step back there. You mentioned all those guys that you got a chance to race with for a year or so do you have any stories about Colton. Orlando or anybody that that stuck with you. Either in an inspirational lay or a funny story. I don't have many funny stories really. I wasn't a teammate. With those guys you tend to kind of keep yourself to yourself when when you're hanging around the product and they don't get involved but If Singapore is quite selfish like that compared to the GT seen But now I always remember. Those guys are super fast and especially London Colton in the second half of the year the in qualifying there pace was always always up there so I remember he good battles within during the race it so place slice overstaying good memories in really good experiences and obviously the great to see how well they've gone today awesome as so you in two thousand eighteen year on the belong pain endurance series and then last year you were in the Lamborghini superchief series where you actually finished third overall. I see three wins. Three pole positions nine podiums as. That's a real strong debut for for young rookie. What what can you attribute such quick success to in your first year in super fail? Yeah I think I like you said at the series which is really big big. Gt's in Europe. And I did that alongside my and my American sale content last year so I had both trump and ships going to nineteen and which was a big help but Good seat time and yeah the obviously the GTC CARS. A little bit different to the savage failed car but they are both lamb beginning hurricane so yeah it was great to be able to both and I would say in terms of the success I feel like one of my strong points is being able to learn a truck quickly and be able to get up to speed and and start attacking these trucks quite quickly. Which wasn't easy coming over to America to do Quite a few runs real only. I didn't have a preseason testing those vagnozzi sue and we were turning to to some of them with with the testing before hunting and I enjoy that kind of challenge and of his. I seem to be able to help. Great pay straight away qualifying and on pole for the three of the five range. The Irish qualifying. So yeah it was a great star and I was very proud of higher. Quick is able to be an unfortunately I had a couple of a DNS racist rich kinda stopped us from winning the championship that we were challenging for like up and so the lock lost race of. There's only four points in between the top two or three cars going into the final race of the season and surly yet was a close one. So out of your northeast North American debut. Last year I had a bunch of tracks. You never raised before. Is there one? That was your favorite track and maybe on the other hand one that you were like a united be happy. If we'd never went back here again now I like the mall mainly I'd say is probably it is a strange one VR. It was one of my favorite enjoyment of driving the circuit. And you know they the SS and the rollercoaster section in the Lamborghini or a big challenge and it was great fun. I I say. Brecqhou there for the signature fail am which ruled America as well. So you know. There's probably two to hold those records just not really enjoyed the track. Vr was also one of kindness as a drive and a couple of mistakes which rich cost us as a team So yeah intense over we can. It was one of the most Up and down weekends driver and you learn from these and I definitely like some in stone. We buying sparked strongly the next rain equalised. Saying the Greenwich Sake. I was really looking forward to an maybe over height to slightly unresolved. She's slightly disappointed research Just because I think this this of being too. This has not been related in a long time soon. Various Lady. And there's there's no grit and but yeah going through the record screw and then the rest of the trucks. Special is great to be able to go there so before it gets next question. I have to ask driving through the corkscrew. In a playstation video. Game gives you the sense that you're really Kinda just like dropping off of a cliff almost when you hit that bottom part. What's it like an actual race car and not behind a video game definitely not just everything? Everything is Greater and Baker Rendu the truck walkers it almost fallen diner there when Raniero around the truck it so to speak and yet it's it's over like a flash you still colleague good speed over the culprits day yesterday is is over in a flash. It's an amazing sense. Yeah the car dropping in your stomach almost leagues for a second and then get so they up again and then yeah correct. Conan focused on the next one awesome so a rapid up here with a couple more questions. You mentioned kind of up and down weekend at VR last year. Going into twenty twenty whenever we're able to get everything underway here. Is there anything as a driver that you're thinking okay? I want to improve on X Y and Z in order to make that championship run in twenty twenty. Again I would say the Am My speed. My outright speed last year was very good day which you could see from my the pope positions a couple of records and things like that so I would say I want to be able to try and keep that speed and maybe just Just iron out the rookie mistakes. I made a couple of times in my in the first year. Which is you know kind of expected on the these difficult trucks The American trucks are quite quite old skill. I find compared to some of the European Grand Prix circuits where there's a lot of tarmac runoff areas whereas yeah about the American trucks for example where the exit cubs hang out. The grass is right next to the exit kkob. So there's not much room forever but I enjoy driving trucks like that because it it really brings the best night year and you don't get away with the snake so yeah that's fun to do just just there are a couple of letters that year and turn Pity together into into one year while keeping your speed high awesome man. I'll wrap it up with one question here. Kind of a more fun rising question. If you were able to have a team may be any race. Car driver in the history of racing. Dead or alive doesn't matter who was your team may be in why that's a good one. I would say I would go a little bit different on this one. And maybe maybe do a couple of I'd love to be able to drive alongside Colin McRae his Scottish fitting rally champion. And how know any of the state but yeah As a as a youngest driver and here is kind of my more sport hero when I was totally to sit on the SOFA. And Watch the incarcerate agenda pretends driving things. I'd love to have a goal has caused or to have met him and and yes see see his driving in the flex and they need something different not necessarily pick to go and win a race perhaps in terms of the experience it'd be pretty awesome. Yeah that's a fantastic answer. Remember watching him growing up as well. So Sandy thanks very much for the time this morning for me this afternoon for you. Stay safe out there. And and good luck in the twenty twenty season whenever we're able to get underway here and look forward to seeing you out at the track. Yeah thanks very much in all the best during the standard plan. No problem thanks a lot and have a good one she is.

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Travis Pastrana

Experts on Expert with Dax Shepard

1:38:13 hr | 2 months ago

Travis Pastrana

"Were Ha. We're alive will come welcome. Welcome Armchair expert. I'm Dan. Sheppard joined by Monica. Pastrana I gotTa tell you guys. This is one of the most exciting folks I could talk to period in Monica God. Bless you. You did your best to hang in there. and Luckily Travis is cute. I got through a lot. This very very interesting. He lives a life that I would greatly ever. And it's fascinating. Just jump into those people's worlds. Yeah, you know Travis Pastrana's one of these guys who I decide allies. He has done every single thing. A human being can do on a motorcycle in a rally car in the NASCAR and I eat. BACKFLIP does a monster truck one time? He is an extreme motor sports daredevil, but I will say there are themes in this that transcend. Transcend that that are very interesting, so if you're motorsports, isn't your bag. Don't worry. I think that we get into life themes. Her share pretty profoundly and I think it's really eliminating to hear how someone like Travis thinks approaches. His work, his job, the risk how we ended up doing it. It's all very very fascinating to me and he's just a gem of human being sweet boy. He's a seventeen time x games medalist and he's a five times North American. Rally champion! He is the CO founder of nitro Circus Nitro, World Games and NITRO rallycross Travis's new venture is called circuit, one, nine, nine, a future state of the art racing facility, motorsports, Park and entertainment venue where everyone from beginners to tier one athletes can pursue their passions and progress as safely as possible. You ask a question. What is rally? Rally is a type of racing. That doesn't happen on a paved track. It happens in the woods most often or in Sweden. It happens in the snowy woods, or it happens along mountain trails and cars. Racing over jumps turns always with a very death defying element because you're racing within the trees. There's no run off so if you crash, you're crashing into a tree at speed. Is it still made like? Is it still a made track? It's just outdoors in the elements. Yes, there's like a path cleared through the forest. On e., it's incredible. All right well, that's helpful. Yeah, let's get into it. Travis Pastrana. Is Motorsport Scott on earth. Please enjoy this cute boy from Maryland, we are supported by word love. I'm wearing a third love. What timing well third love believes that every woman deserves to feel comfortable and confident every day. Do you feel comfortable and confident and Actua- Oh my God. It shows the right kind of support. They help her do this. Their bras are designed to fit you not the other way around design with measurements for millions of women, their bras styles are made to fit your life. 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What is the what seems to be the fragile points of your body? shoulders knees for sure ankles. Now see when you start racing most Gaza gumby end up on your feet, and you break your ankles, and then when they break, then you start your knees, and then you start breaking back. Kind of works its way health. You're so right in by the way you're explaining something that my wife witnessed on Saturday which was I was on roller skates and I went to. To sit down and I realized well. Both my rhys are shot so I can't put my hands behind me to sit down and then I thought I'm going to have to make fisk because that's generally like five to push up. That's what I gotTa do this. Wise, right my left versus few so when I fall over like you trip up the steps and you just take it to the shorter because. Look at I've even had your life, but that is where I met where my wife was watching. We tried to sit down roller skates and I just had to commit and just drop onto my tailbone because I can't. I can't break my phone. And I was thinking. Yeah, these injuries are starting to roll downhill. Fuck up other things. Without so I actually I had a growth spurt at twelve years old. I broke both wrists, and I came back literally. My mom had white me because I had to. Full arm, cast I came back and broke my left wrist and my left collarbone, unlike the I ride back, and then I will my knee, and I was like okay. Whatever you do I just got back on the bike. Just don't land on your wrist. Don't let this. And I sat back on it and I broke my back. I'll take the risk you know. One of those things. Well. I kind of I used his ally and got got I haven't and longtime cross my mind if it goes down at this point, I don't know how deep into the before everything's just broke like even about winning items are. I can't hit you anymore because everything's broke now. SIDEBAR! Sorry I'm sorry, but it does cross my mind so okay, so you're an interesting guests for us. Because our listeners arm, cherries are predominantly female, and so I'm going to gender stereotypes now. I doubt many of them love Nitro, circus, or Motocross, or many things you and I love. We're like eighty five percent young fails probably exact opposite viewership. If you could team up if we could like. Converge the nitro Circus and Jerry Army. It would be really amazing, and these para perfectly could find mates because you know what I'm saying that the numbers are there. Okay, so what I want to say is they'll be a bunch of sports, talk, but much bigger themes in your life. That I think are very interesting themes that people really enjoy so I have theories about you and I'm going to test them. Let's start at the beginning travis. Where were you born? And was it pretty rural where you got brought home from the hospital? So an atlas is actually the capital. Berlin but it's definitely a smaller city, so yeah the Naval Academy Lot Armed Forces there for sure. Definitely. My Dad was military pretty much. Everyone in that area I want grownup became a navy seal so when you grew up with your dad being a drill sergeant in the ring tour. It's pretty strict regiment. Even, though that. Bam wasn't too far away. We grew up completely different copy more. Culture. Skater cater my wife, Lindsey She's a skater, but like they were you know. Get up the tracking noon and. If I slept till seven hundred the weekend. I, was lazy pilot traps, so get up at the crack near well. That's all the Talian to these different themes, because you've avoided some pretty well worn traps at a lot of folks fall into, both in what you do, and what I do I fell into them you, you appear to have not fallen into them, but I was wondering. Were you in a suburb like we're you somewhere where you could write dirt bike as a? A child, so my dad has fiber others, and they had a construction company so really small construction company, but basically my grandma lived right next to us. My Dad's uncle lived right next to him and his brother liver to him, and then they rented the next house out the Olympia. My cousin, so we all live on basically as Elliot Road, which is my grandma's maiden name, and in the back was basically the shop where we had bob cats and San Piles and. All the time for moving all the different types of dirt's on top of each other because they made forget jumps. Klay with the sand kind of deal, but it was good child. What age did you get set on a dirt bike sauce for years old ride their bikes, but we rode go-carts from a to, and it was a pretty redneck upbringing. Considering s kind of city. If you will, so you're the kid, I would have befriended a Michigan to have access to all your sweet shit. I wanted all that ship, but we were to broke in fact. Fact One of my good buddies. His Dad was a mason, and so they had some shit. You know they had some property. And they had some dirt bikes, and I lived there, because of that all amount, basically they all hot rods. They loved everything, and we just found up from ages of like ten eleven twelve since we could reach the pedals in the steering wheel. Go Round Up. Do Whatever we paper routes whenever we had to do to get like a two hundred dollar car from the junkyard, and then just make it run going flips, get it running again and then I save money again and make it happen, so we had a little different childhood than the most people but My uncles, there's a really close knit family. We didn't have a lot of money for sure like everything was hand-me-downs and ten years old and broken and everything, but It was kind of a cool way to grow a lot of cousins and. Uncles too crazy stuff all the time. Do, you have siblings now only shall, we could have never afforded racing with more I was just GonNa say that helps big time so when you got in the dirt bike, would you say and we will not interpret this as bragging, but was it just a very natural fit for me from the get I was facing the run to my family, and my uncle was quarterback in Denver, Broncos all American lacrosse wrestling. My grandfather was sold boxer. The navy and I didn't get any. If that I couldn't throw catch hit on I got beat up all the time you know for. Football. Games it was basically like yeah. Your five year old female cousin year. Yeah exactly. I found the only way to really fit in with. My family was to have a motor. 'cause I couldn't do with my own physical power. Yeah, so. How can I jump off a bridge? How many flips can I do and how fast that Chris, my right wrist, all my so this is fantastic. I was never good at soccer wasn't good at any of these things, but like BMX bike came around and I would hit the double, and then I'd hit the. I thought Oh. This device can make me the athlete I want like this thing can deliver on what I wish I was. My greatest strength is the willingness and kind of that understanding like calculating risk like okay. Can I make it? And what are the odds? This is gonNA. Work crashed more than most people have had more injuries than than pretty much. Anyone else out there. What that's how I made clear now we've gone this quarantine and all this stuff is sim racing like man. You really bad on and I'm like no. They took away all of my edge. No one's you free crisis simulator. Right right? Okay, but and this'll be again. A theme that recurs which is. Certainly you had a really high tolerance for fear. There's probably something wrong in your head. Remember reading and reading in psychology that people who are are risk-takers like they don't have 'em ao in their brain like people with a ton of emo. They're satisfied watching the grass grow, but people none. Their brains are dad. Unless there. There's a threat of death, but you had on top of that a crazy gift on a motorcycle. What did you start racing racing for four years old, so yep, Oh, you have racing at that age. Yep, got my life everyone on the family of motorcycles. My mom even start racing when I started racing, so it was, it was Pretty Fun Oh. Wow, and then when you win your first championships so. So first amateur. National Championship was ten years old, so then on one five Msu national championships, and then first X. Games will won the World Freestyle Championship because it was a new sport. You know when you start with something. That's they haven't done for a long time. You're still kind of everyone's learning together, so it's. It's a easier for someone. That's younger or hasn't been on a bike as much to really get into timing was definitely on my side, so won the world championships support team, but it really wasn't a sport at that time. It was kind of like the guys that weren't good enough to race. motocross played around. In general guys seem to be either crazy. Great Racers, or they were really good free style, and certainly maybe there was overlap, but you actually won the won twenty five's when you are. That's when you were seven. Yes yes, Sixteen! Sixteen so you're the fastest man in the world on a one twenty five at sixteen, I charlie. Asks The X. Games of the very first Games. Is that ninety nine? Fifteen years old and you win the freestyle competition, which is where you're doing stunts. You're jumping up enormous jumps in. You're doing tricks and you get at that time, which still stands you get ninety nine. Right you just you decimate the competition and you're and you're like sixteen, so here's where I start noticing you I guess if you're you're sixteen hours probably like twenty four or something, and it was very exciting that you were both that and you are the current champion on one twenty five I thought Oh, this doesn't really happen. This kid's really phenom. I'm really excited about. This. person as was everybody in the motor sports. And we're doing all your tricks on a one twenty five and everyone else's on a to fifty it. Yeah, for sure so it definitely. What sounded louder didn't go as Fast Beta. Noise have a lot of aggression. Now I mean that's basically my whole life. My Dad said look your uncle was. The greatest athlete might have ever come out of Maryland and he's still working construction, the summer and teaching in our community college health to seniors and the COM- coach fee for Lacrosse and football I said. Look any day that you can do what you love to do. Bride that train, so the wheels fall off, but you're always gonNA network with us so. I was like data like mom. I WANNA do that and they're like well. You know just have fun as long as you're having fun and you're getting good grades. Go ahead and it never stopped, so it sounds like you were born in at the very perfect family to pursue what you pursued, but did they wrestle when you started doing freestyle, they start getting scared and where they expressing that at all to you, because people are not yet, but people shortly thereafter start getting very very hurt doing this like don't walk again and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean it was definitely tougher on at eighteen. I'm back looking into the Grand Canyon with parachute and. All. This kind of I took a lot of hard left's of throughout throughout my career. But at the end of the day, my mom I think that when she realized that it meant that much, I dislocated my basically, my pelvis shattered and my spine just pretty much went. If you will out of it. Yeah, it was bad I love. My blood volume. I just kept passing out. Pass out every time. They tried to move me I. passed out so I got hurt. In Havasu and I ended up flying to L. A. Wilcox two weeks later almost died, basically one white stunt. was that in have all I was just I? Just didn't fast enough was trying to make a jump on a freestyle, and I tried to jump to jumps, and I went one hundred fifteen feet, running the one hundred twenty fifth all. For Monica. We should have given you like Zanex for this. Okay, so did mom all say you like? I'm so glad on fire for this and passionate, but she still present has to say like be careful. Even have the big switch on your. Back your. I mean at this point, so my parents had sold the boat. That's why you're on the weekends. And now motorcycles was what they did. All my uncles that were construction have actually taken pay cuts to cover our fuel to the races. We had awesome sponsors that even though you can't pay amateurs. They were basically helping us in any way. They could as friends to be like okay. You need a new bike for the national championships like you have to have this and just really the community. The family everybody came around to. To support me doing this, and but my mom's like you know the chance of you making anything as far as financial in sports want to give you the opportunity to go as far as you want, but when I hurt myself, there and I woke up literally two weeks later and coming out of the medically abuse and she said. Are you sure this which you WANNA do I? said MOM would rather get I want to do that job. It's like that was two weeks ago and I know that sounds horrible idea. Sounds like you're really lucky to walk again. You're going to be a wheelchair for the next. You know five months. Let's think about your education. Let's get away from dirt bikes. And even that moment in all that pain. All I WANNA do is get back on the dirt bike and she's like well. If you love it this much, you can't take your life away. Away from you as much as hard. Yeah, I think it's very hard for people to understand who don't have hobbies that are really dangerous, but maybe this isn't true for you, but for some people they'd rather not be here I mean for some people. If they can't serve big waves, they'd rather just call it. You know that's what they want to do and that. That might shorten their time here, but that's how they want to spend that time here. It's hard to comprehend if that's not your jam, I think if you don't have anything that you truly love that is, it sounds silly to say some things worth dying for like nobody wants to die, but a lot of people never live, and that's kind of the thing is. Is like what are you willing to sacrifice to have the best life that you possibly can and one of my heroes? Matt Hoffman so live tonight. Happy so whatever happens every single day. You live so that if the world ended the next day you died, not feeling like you wondered if you could have been better could've done. More could have done something man. It's like great risk reward. Everything Matt Hoffman so people know he's basically the U. OF BMX bikes. He was the pioneer. He was the guy that started everything I X. Games, he won the the vert. This guy that was going forty foot up. He was pronounced dead it. Completely out for like two minutes, and they brought him back this a guy that came out. He couldn't get surgery to fix what you need to do. In the US, such four X Games, he wanted to attract no handed nine hundred. No one else that ever done it. He knew he could do it. He was dialed in hurt himself, so he goes to Canada, and they said look. We can't put you under because that would technically be a surgery, but we can do this procedure as long as it's not. A surgery. Yeah, you drill drilled through, they like. You can't femur and Tibia and everything. They played it everything and put some synthetic ligaments in there, and he went and landed. The first ever had nine hundred. So that's something to say like. That's how much he wanted to do this. And it's something that not many people can grasp, but yeah okay, so first of all married I. Just want to warn you well. That's actually what I'm getting at. This is part. Part of it so when you have this thing, you love so much that you'll sacrifice essentially your life for. Do you have close relationships with other people along this time because I feel like as soon as somebody else close comes in. You feel like you owe them a little bit of you of your life so that when you put yourself at risk. Isn't that scarier or does that make it harder to do? Risk reward always changes if you're fifteen years old, you've got nothing nothing to lose, but you've got a lot more to gain. I haven't won X Games. I haven't done this. I need to prove and even if you don't, that's how you feel as you're young, you're fired up. You're like I need to I have to land this trip I have to set myself on the stage. You don't have a wife or girlfriend or kids, but everyone says how can you keep doing this stuff when you have kids as well? I've trashed a lot. And that calculated risk to say what is worth it. What is going to show my kids that you gotta go out? You've gotta work hard. You gotTa Chase Your Dreams. You gotta live your life to the fullest, but you gotTA. Keep living. You know you. Can't tapis excessive risk, so it is Josh Ian Triple back. Flip this guy. He's all actually almost my age, but no wife. No kids and I work in triple backflip pretty much since the double backflip in two thousand six really just gotTa say Travis was the first person in the event to backflip a motorcycle twice in loud. Yep so so that was about forty feet above the ground or fifty feet now they're going a hundred feet above the ground. The take off that we had. We worked with Thomas J. All the Red Bull Nitro and we had gone through so much money and so much time in so many injuries trying to figure out how to get the motorcycle. That's two hundred fifty pounds to spin three times not slow down waiting the rear wheels, trying all different things, and can I pause you for one second imagine because the red bull. Bank is the fucking best in motorsports so. There I m assuming there's like physicists engineers working on this at this point right I. mean there's a real think tank is not you and your fucking Yoko buddies going like. How do we get a third rotation out of this? The problem is most of the think. Tanks don't work, it's. Smart people aren't smart, but in our stuff like it comes down to. It's a feel that you know people that you don't feel something. You don't really understand it, so we finally figured out how to get three around, but now I'm at about one hundred and ten feet in the air, my landings about. AIRBAG, which is still sixty feet below me and I mean so Jesse and he was pinball. Blood I've got a couple of broken ribs and s to the AIRBAG. That's the safest thing you could possibly do I was scared. Going to the air back and I had to stop 'em picking. If I'm scared going Airbag, what makes me think that when this landing wooden landing, sixty foot tall ongoing? Sixty feet above that like what makes me think that I'm going to have the mental capacity to commit to this and like you said you're thinking what what if I get her. What if I would my my wife, my kids and as? Soon as you start thinking about that, you realize that you're in over your head whether you are. You're not if you're thinking of anything, but that trick in that moment you're going to get hurt. And that was my first time that I thought. My job is no longer to to be the guy push limit. My job is to help these guys that are pushing the limit. Do it and get back to their families. Dude, okay, so you're bringing up a great point. Okay, so I ride motorcycles A. Everywhere. I go I! Go to the track every time I ken to race motorcycles, and increasingly I'm having the debate while it's going on. Do you have the debate like? Doing something and I'm loving it because you know with the two kids and everything else I'm just Kinda like look I love so much, but then it crosses my mind what my kids will be like without a Dad Dad they knew for seven years and I'm like God. How much do I love it trickles in a lot more for me in the last couple years now without a doubt I was riding my harley the other day just backwards like just cruising, and I saw deer on the side of the road. Just we Maryland a lot of deer, and I I was scared all the way back. I'm like how stupid would this be? I'm writing speed limit cruising. I guess like can I do this. Can I keep riding that still safe? And then? I was going to pick up my daughter and I'm like. Can I have her on the back of this like I'm I'm a good but like? Jumps out and runs us over like what I don't know Yeah, okay, so our somewhere where we really need to be which is I have this ethical thing and I. Really WanNa know because you have a daughter added. That's the exact same age as Lincoln and I kind of been tracking you a little bit because I. Put Lincoln on an electric dirt bike like just before four th birthday and she got good at and then I got a little razor, and she's fucking baller in the razor yet. The little one seventy. Yes, and I can see the calmness when shit comes up into my. Oh, she's got it. She's got the thing. Everything can be upside down and she's still thinking calmly. She's got it and it fills me with such delight, so I imagine Addie your daughter. She must be doing all this stuff to. The same thing that one seventy. Now? She's on dirt bikes, but it's funny because I have two daughters and my oldest was adding I don't know how different your kids are, but my oldest addy comes out and she was crying unless you had her in the air, she had to be in the air. She had to be moving. She started walking. G needed to be going somewhere. Doing something travis my kids new silent. She knew sign language before she could talk right and I hope this rope up to this little car. She said all day long and I started swinging it around in the driveway in your video is so scary it now in the moment. It felt right, but the video is. She's she's just. She's going. She has to be hitting thirty right. And then stop, and it's on video and the first thing he does put her fingers together. which is more more more, more, more, yeah? Saint Saint thing. But with with Addie. Is the second, no matter what's going wrong. She smiles as it goes more sideways as the steps out as she over jumps our youngest. She was the happiest baby, but if you throw in, the air was crying. He's always saying slowdown. Our oldest is more and more and more faster faster faster our youngest since day. One like they raised in the same I. think like slower. Don't like heights. Don't WANNA go fast. Let's I. WanNA drive with mom. You know dude. Act same story just last night driving the minivan home on the one on one, and I got fucking Lincoln saying go faster and Delta saying slowdown so interestingly enough, our oldest crazy one never gets hurt. She's arise flying through the air, and she tumbles, and she just roll with the punches. Our youngest one doesn't do hardly anything, and then she she was sliding down the steps and she got scared. She put all her feet out and everything in the ended up flipping and she's not. That's why I don't do this stuff I'm like you know what? Pants, you're you're right. If you panic your worst fears, world come true. First of all I can't stand for one of never had an interest in it, but I watched this Netflix's meal. One show have you seen? It will do I have always been like such a big F once again. All of a sudden Netflix now everyone's talking Oh. Yes, you see this I'm like no. Guy I'm the poser for sure. I was like I. Don't know they never pass Blah. Blah Blah whatever phenomenal, and then I said to my wife, I'm like I gotta get Lincoln in a car like yesterday or see can never be in route to being a formula driver, and then I played the whole thing out, and I was like God I'd be so proud, and then I thought what if my fucking daughter died in some fucking ridiculous hobby I kind of forced a not even forces. She just would act interested because she loves me. Probably I can't tell when she's doing something for me. Yeah, she loves it is how how you know and I just thought fuck. Is that the? The Path, I wanNA put her on. So you have a daughter. She would definitely be the heir apparent. She could probably be the best female motorcycle rider of all time. What are your thoughts about that? Could you see her go through all the injuries? You've gone through as a father, people say. Would you want your kids to do? Whatever makes them happy? There's no amount of money in the world worth going through the injuries that I've done, but I would have paid every single dime. Every dollar given up. Everything to have had the opportunity to live the life that I have because I love it so whatever they're passionate about and I hope it's not motocross I hope it is cars. Safer and safer. Both of my daughters I want them to be competent on a motorcycle, but I hope they don't love his I. Did yeah some just crossed my mind because you're so immersed in X. Games and all this different branding stuff. Do they tell you like? Stay away from that shit and ain't everyone back over here at the end of the day. Like a kind of now, my job is going through campaign and stuff and trying to figure out. Out What the head injury when we're going to come out, football said okay like let's let's figure out how you know. There's guys that knocked themselves out almost every night. These thing there had mike okay, so is a serious as knots like as someone. That's giving them the opportunity to do it to themselves to travel around the world living a dream like when we have to say you know because doctors look, they look okay. Look no this I know him. He's not all right, or she's not a right, or whatever so trying to figure out what is good or bad I guess. Yeah, well. It's very weird. RIGHT TO TRANSITION SHIT! Someone here has got to be the parent and that's now me, which is such a weird role. I'm not used to that, but I gotta take that on. Because that is the role now yeah, so the brothers they were quandaries, irs and they went, and they start winning X. Games, both from earn gold medals them. Caleb ended up passing away. The key got up and walked out with just the internal. That is so heavy. Yeah, and there's been a couple of freestyle motocross Mike thing right now is. Is trying to get where you know Kelly Nascar putting safer barriers after earnhardt like you'd never, GonNa get away from the potential, but let's make it so that you get away with ninety percent more yet. The jumps are going to be bigger. You go faster. You're going to be strong or you going to do more stuff, but let's make the landings, so you can roll out a little bit, you know. I think and I don't know the history of it, so, but you've pioneered a couple things right so the foam pit I at least I had never seen the foam pit, so so he started practicing where he practices amazing backflips and Shit and lands in this enormous container full of Foam squares. Did you make that up? Gary Hart actually. Woodward Woodward as a camp start on the east coast. Now it's all over the world. Even have a hard rock hotels and stuff, but basically they have all the best athletes and the most progressive training facility, so he started out with gymnastics. Have so many Libyans that goes through there, and then moved to skateboards and be a maximum. They took all gymnastic stuff and basically rolled it out over to that. Are Really quick because the state champion cheerleaders so just. So. I've tumbled into a foam pit many times. They champ over here so you guys are both I've I've never wanted any second place BMX racing. That's the mental. Okay, well technically just going to be a hard left, but cheer so I am now it's your dad. Did I tell you what I've been throwing our girls in the air since day one and you know they can do back flips oh my my oldest. She's a flyer. Wasn't as flexible as you need to be right away to get in there, but she's been working hard and they're like well. You're you're you're? The youngest one is not much. 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O., P., DOT, com, and enter DAX at checkout to save fifteen percent sleep better recover faster in train. Smarter optimize your performance with whoop. Okay so the phone bit so you started practicing into the phone now you have these humongous inflatable airbag landing ramps were those come from so well? Foam is a petroleum product. Motorcycles have a really hot exhaust by and the biggest problem is when you end up, say down no matter what you turn off. Gas Pours out and then the static electricity. Lights it Oh my God. So have you witnessed this? Yes, so the red bull on pit burnt down. There's been a lot of them that have gone up in flames. To make it safer, we started going to air bags. Now airbags. It's a soft landing. You don't get stuck upside down with gas pouring on you and. On fire with dislocated shoulder or whatever my mom broke her neck into our foam pit. No, she was the first. She was fine. She was off. The hair line fracture. Imagine. Now even with the triple back, flip and stuff we had to figure out a way to take the bag rough bag the landing bag. helps so you can actually get a feel of where the landings going to be and because when flat you have to rotate or under rotate depending on what direction you're spinning or whatnot, so the more we can make towards the landing better and now with BMX join Olympics and you have all the snowboarding and everything else every Olympic the countries were coming to nature circus after we figure that thing out of the triple and they were like okay. How did you make a bag? That was a landing bag. Like how does how does it go on Shirley? That's gotTa be quite challenging. Yeah I mean. It wasn't too challenging, but it just when you haven't seen it before. It hasn't been done and just in the last two years, the progression of the safety of the bag jump eggs, and all the other companies that are coming out there so good, and he really didn't need as as deep as we thought we did like you just need. It's like when you're doing a bench. Press or something, and like you know, someone puts a pinkie on there and the it gets the rest the way. You don't. You don't need a lot to protect you from a really bad injury. The only problem with the landing bags is the head because your your body. If as long as everything's tucked in, you can draw some pretty high. If your landing fairly flat on your stomach or your back, you know little limb out. You're going to break, and your head usually gets slapped pretty hard to the back so like motocross had a really low can see probability and that kind of stuff, because usually if you have hard enough to be knocked out, you something else broken so what we found was that the safer that we're making it for. Your body is actually making. Making it potentially more problems down the road, because you'll trash up nine ten twenty times, and you'll be able to keep getting back up and you generally trash the trick the same way, so it hits the same spot. Every thing that you think you're doing better. Choice has a consequence on the other side. Yeah, your body's equation and you're like. Yeah, you're bolstering one end and then now. This is a weak point. Okay, so you're just an all time legend. We've also built this incredible empire. You're winning next games, your fucking jumping and flipping everything you could possibly do, and then you create a TV show, nitrous circus with a lot of the Jackass folks and The pilot if I recall, and I told you about this Monica one time you almost threw up the pilot. You meet Travis on this show. He's in an airplane in the air and he says hey I'm Travis Pastrana and this is nitro circus. He's in board shorts and no fucking shirt. Any jumps out of an airplane. Do I have that right either by. Fail, those tests were always the best. It was actually it was a rebel tests. It gives you wings I was just checking. Okay so I'm watching that and this is the first time I've now been. Put in the seat of like your mother or I'm like no, no, no I. Love Travis Rana. He is a motorsports phenom him jumping on fucking airplane with no parachute. He just dives out of the airplane, and then he meets another in the air, and he puts on a fucking parachute, and then opens it lands safely. Yeah, and you can't practice. Skew well, so I'm not a great skydiver like I got my. Which is like you be dinner license. Learner's permit I mean I get around fine I. It's like Moose things. Yeah I mean that's the best part about Chevy skydiving the second you step off the bridge or building or plane. You're going as fast as anyone else can go so. GonNa figure it out from there, but so I jumped up. I tried to get away from these guys I was doing everything that I could to basically play tag assuming that they were. Trying to run, and they basically tackled me out of the sky, and they just hooked up to the Horse Okay so the the guys are guys or girls. Whoever chased after you in the Air I presume hopefully they were some of the best in the world skydiving I found a military guy and I figured military. They'd never leaving behind so like I should be all right. We'll be great. Scene makes sense, but at the same time they don't. Like, yeah can jump out because the military's never left behind well, okay, that is a true statement, but this is I don't know that it applies here. So. I just I just remember I, remember thinking okay. If you found my threshold I now Matt you because I want you to stay alive because I love watching. You do shit, but I don't want you jumping out of fucking airplanes. Scary. But within their. If you love this stuff and I do, there's all this strata of actual danger. Right so these wing suits are so fucking dangerous. So? They get in these suits, and they have kind of wings from your wrist. Don and they jump off a mountain and they fly. Making go really really really fast it yeah, it's like flying, Squirrel but the problem is not problem in the proximity fly because you could fly right down the mountains through tunnels through. The it's amazing. The precision of these guys have. where, my wife's drew the line so I was starting to think about she goes. Look, you always have to do a little bit more a little bit further. She's like you don't practice enough to be competent enough that this makes sense and I. Fully Agree, but you can do things safely. The problem is most of the people that are risk-takers that are doing that are going to be proximity flying. You're not going to say hey, I'm not gonNA go further or closer next time. I'M NOT GONNA go faster next time. We're not gonNA. Push myself harder and eventually with that. It's not you don't break a wrist when you find the limit is to. One of those guys disintegrated friend. They were flying, and they were gonNA fly through these cables of bridge. All these people gathered to watch. One guy caught a cable and literally dematerialize. There was nothing left of this guy. So one of my best friends Eric Runner. He was always kind of our voice of reason like he was father of two kids swipe. Just an amazing family, amazing human being was a skier basis main thing but Shane mcconnachie, who also passed away from the same area, and they started ski base, jumping and that kind of stuff, and out of all this nothing Eric Rohner did and all the stuff that Shane McCarthy did. They both died on things that I'm not saying they're routine, but they were very very minimal risk, so that put things in perspective for me to say like hey, sometimes things just go wrong young when you're in those sports. It doesn't really matter how good you are. If you're pushing yourself if something goes wrong, this outside of your control. mccown skied in his binding, didn't. Yeah now here's a question I have for you because I'm regularly in situations where it's attract a, we're all writing. And that dude crashes. And I'm like you know you go through this whole thing. It's like. Oh, he just crash. Okay, that could happen to me and then you basically have a talk with yourself of why that doesn't pertain to. You and I. Wonder What Your Talk Is. So mine is generally like Oh. That guy's younger. He's got more to prove than me. He's willing to ride over his talent level and I generally think at forty five. I know where my talent level is and I say just under it, but that's also horse shit right one hundred percent. So tells yourself when you've had friends or peers who have died or been. You know dramatically injured. Doing virtually what you do, what do you tell yourself? No, I mean, it's kind of what you said. It's like thinking of your kids riding motorcycles. You like while they're probably going to break a bone. If they continued doing this, but it's not going to be today. Your head. Yeah, it's not today. I know that you'll hurt eventually ns, but not today yet. You're right. You know the numbers like I. Tell us to people who want to learn to ride a motorcycle who live in La I'm like you're going to get hit by cars like. I've been doing it for twenty five years here. I've been hit by two cars, and that's so you know. Do you WANNA learn if you're not good at. Is this where you want to learn where you? You know even if you're great, YOU'RE GONNA. Get hit by cars. It's risk reward, but every time one of my friends especially like as we've all had a bad injury. And, so many of my friends like that's it I'm done I will never us again? I'm getting a real job and you know maybe year maybe five years because by, and then they come right back and right about the time that they're going. This is so awesome like this is the greatest thing ever. I'm on fire two minutes later. They're getting. Out So. Every time I feel like I'm having a really great day. It's like we never say one last time now. We're get enough, so that kind of happened to you right, so you left the X. Games for a minute you didn't compete in freestyle for a few years right? You took a few years off. Yeah, basically racing cars, so ex game started with me. I stopped racing motocross basically and went more just strictly to freestyle and We had nitro circus starting over traveling around the world with their best friends, you know. We met up with John Knoxville. They got showing him Devi also. We gotta live tour. That's going on. I'm like this is great. I Love X. Games, but every time I went there. It was like I'm either going to Carter out of here. I'm in here with a metal or on a stretcher. Yes, it's going to be either gold or On the streets and best attitude to have. But I was able to kind of start where this nitro circus and we traveled around the world, and had all my best friends, and that's my my wife. She was the only skater that can do. The GIGAN- ramp. which is you know the big virk thing. She was doing five forties and. Generally there's not a lot of girls that can go out to motocross track all day. We always forget to bring any food or water or anything. It's hot or dirty, and we're loving. Life and most girls are like yeah. It's not where I parked. My Car's not west seen so I found Lindsey. I was I was pretty stoked, and just a really awesome human being. Yeah, it's pretty special. You guys found each other. Okay, so you're an entrepreneur. Did you think you would have you always had an interest so really quick to for anyone who wouldn't know like Tony, Hawk thing he was a skateboarder. He was with Paul Peralta he had a clothing line. He had a board then he had does the new video game you know he was really really good at building a humongous brand around that sport, and you've done the exact same thing it. Were you setting out to do that? That no I mean I just basically went off. My Dad said and said have as much fun as you possibly can every day. If it's not what you love to do, then it's not worth doing so basically. I took all the wrong business decisions. Every time that I had money over here and I had what I wanted to do over there. I always went with that every time I had leaker instance what I'm most known for his by a double backload X. Games, but you gotta think of this Nope I still have caliber motorcross across recruit career potentially that that I can do. That's where I'll probably make the most money I want to car. Car Racing and I've spent almost every dime that I made to that point trying to chase stream thinking that I can I can drive cars, and it ended up working out, but Colin McRae who was one of the greatest rally. Drivers of all time comes over. He's world. Champion comes over the United. States which were known as not very good drivers, even though I feel like Nascar Geyser absolutely amazing indycar. They just don't have a lot of respect on the world stage, for whatever reason so when Colin comes over is my third year in rally, not even knows I'm driving. Cars spent every dime had trying to do this and I get out there and. And, I'm sitting second. One tenth of a second behind World Champion legend Colin. McRae and with one stage left to go. I have best trick so in between the rally stages, and the final stage for X. Games is moto best trick I'm sitting third place with a trick that I had, and I'm eight for ten in the foam pit trash. pry breaking my neck and I have my whole rally team there I. Have my future that I've just spent everything that I've had trying to get into rally. Knowing that I've already have a mental here. And what do I do? I just say you know what I'm going I'm not going to regret, not trying. Limited it worked out or You can write a scenario right so wild. Okay, now building the business, so you take nitro circus, and you travel the world. You do like arenas in my right about that. Down South Africa, we're putting on shows with fifty thousand people sell out stadiums fifty thousand. Yeah here. We were mostly like smaller like MGM Grand Arena. That kind of stuff we did the arena in London. We sold it out to zero stuff like that. We went over to Australian like Brisbane Adelaide. We can usually do three to four nights complete sellouts, fifteen thousand a night, which is you know, but that culture down their new, Zealand Australia and Western candidate to honestly is just more more action sports. Sports Yeah I was shooting a movie in new. Zealand I was like I think I should have lived. Here is awesome. You can drive a jet boat on this little course. They just put you in Judy's way too much worse power and then st by Tommy, another guy who has absolutely no business being in anything. They gave him like literally. He's doing one hundred on this little vote. You're going one hundred miles. An hour in the track is ending in nine feet, and the guy's not lifting. More throttle! Like, he went into what goes. Straight. Problem is you flip onto land, so it's a field and they cut these little water trenches. But when you start trashing you, flip onto the. In a boat? A boat barrel. Monica guys going a hundred in track is ending, say in a couple dozen feet, and he fucking whips the wheel one eighty floors even more, and you're like that going the other direction. Oh, it's the most surreal. Yeah doesn't feel possible. What happens in those? We were driving. It was not possible. Company shows a year. Does nitro circus put on live shows well this year none. We were up to about seventy shows year, and just trying to figure out the business plan. What's interesting is when you're touring. It depends on if you can do more than one night in the same Ariya. Profitable, so you have to go through and established what Niger circuses so anywhere that we had a TV show. People knew the name Nitro circus like Australia New Zealand like we were, we came up with the movie got like. Two percent rotten tomatoes here in the US and nobody was out and Australia more seconds. The made them. There's not that many people over there, but still. So without trying to count your money for you, which is a hobby of mine, a what percentage of your income nitro circus traveling live like? Are you nervous about how it may be before you can do that? Yes, so what's really interesting was so we have of the world championships for the big air of action, Sports X. Games. Olympics are kind of standardize ramps. Let's make it fair across the board nitro searches. How big can we go? How far can fly and let's make the? The landings a little bit safer, so we hopefully don't have anyone get injured kind of deal and it was like it's not legit it's to an air bag is still hurts, and yes, they're now. Doing two more flips than anywhere else in the world. I could give a shit about that. We we we just want. I was showing her some clips of your stuff before we talk to you and I saw a bunch of airbag landings where I was still absolutely mind blowing. That's worship. Yeah! So was thrown. Our goal is to to push the limits and to to do safely as possible. But Wales, this year was the first time we had it outside of salt. Lake City and that was canceled. We're had seventy shows that are now probably end up doing twenty. It's not a good time to be in live entertainment now and now with a nice rally cross, so I'm kind of leading the nicer rallycross charge, which is actually building my own facility just to prove that we can have huge jumps that we can do it safely but I I want to be able to have full control creative control over the track and. And I want to have the best drivers out there. Building attracted to challenges. The drivers is found a nitro circus not to take a step out, but when the athletes are having fun, the crowds having fun, you can do the exact same show. You do a better show, but if the energy of the athletes aren't there, it doesn't come across and I've seen a NASCAR and all these sports there mazing, but they're so focused on winning I want to bring it back where they're actually a little scared of the check their your Talladega rights and less. We got huge jump. She got a time stuff now. You're instead of just thinking. I. WanNa win. You're thinking I'm scared so just more challenging, hopefully more fun out with the goal, but so I'm kind of spearheading that and so can walk. WHO's also trying to build up rallycross cross and trying to figure out how to make this? Go Beggar he's. He doesn't WanNa do anything, but he's like I've done every huge stop I've ever dreamt of and I feel if I do anything else. I'm going to die. Again like what more can I do, so he passed the Torch Smi this year so Gymkhana, which you know, this one of the and they shut down the Golden Gate Bridge Shutdown, the ten one zero one freeway for him to drift around. Saying, he destroyed so universal. The entire studio was fucked up with tire marks. I was working there and got to work after the weekend after they shut it down and this is the whole place was rubber and I'm like what happened here, okay? Thank you? Really get talked, so lie. Goal is to build rally. Can you have all the best rally drivers in the World Plus Tack Shepherd in this thing Jeff, sign up! Let's make it happen, so we let let's advertise as the best drivers in the world and okay driver shepherd. That's exciting. The electric cars coming out zero to sixteen under a second. No, they're going to. They're thinking about doing not me, but like smallish Abe's is. All the companies are asking for like you imagine like a minivan doing zero sixteen under a second, it's like a specimen, drag or drive. It's GONNA be awesome. Yeah, you're probably pulling like four. Jeeze, you go under. That's it. It's amazing. My goal is to continue progressing sport. Continue having fun I feel like I'm passionate about it. If I love it and everything, investing is if it doesn't succeed, it's still been an amazing life, and it's still showing my kids, not that I work per. Se, but you know you're up early. You travel. You're always working. You're working hard at Hartley working. Yes, yeah, that's it but. Now if I'm being too nosy. Tell me, but if you had your high, it's all the money you make and in the year. What is from your endorsements? Is that the bulk of what you make or is it? The nitro circus touring show, or is it something else I don't even know about? No is probably sponsors and that kind of stuff, so my wife always has a very difficult time, even though she's in the same thing like she skates to winner to says she's looking at what it's GonNa gain and she's a mom. Mom Now and there's a lot. She won the world championship last year, two thousand nineteen at thirty years old, so it was like a half lifetime since she wanted the time before so so so proud of my wife, but I was going down and I was filming this video and I put in eight hundred thousand dollars of my own money, which didn't get pretty much any of it back because the industry is just not big enough to really support that just because I was chasing these jumps in these tricks and Lindsay's like. What are you doing? This is our college fund. What a fucking circus being married you! Sports, it's also like no I'm going to become a NASCAR driver and blow x amount of money. Oh, everyone's like. Why did you ask Dr Like? Literally? I wasn't good enough and I ran on money so I didn't want to. I've had this experience where I'm like fuck. Being craziest isn't good enough. That was dark, so imagine this you race motocross your whole life for freestyle. You can take that electorates. You can, so for those you know like in a whoop section. It was like a whole bunch of bumps that you have to touch your front and back tired. Every single one or you flip over the Mars but you can shift. Closure is really and make a whole second. I know it doesn't sound like a lot, but you can make a second every lap through the wolves. If you are willing to dice. Yeah pretty much. So, there's always that and then rally. It's snowing. There's a hundred cliff on the right side trees on the left. So if you'll take more risk, you can be faster. Right but if the walls went, there was a cone. Everyone would be doing that corner second faster. Let because there is the potential a lot of guys slow it down. That's where I can usually step up and say look. I know that this is my ability level and I can make time if I need to push their so with NASCAR with any pavement. Really you can't make time by being crazier. You have to be a technician. You can't get in trouble. You have to be a computer. You have to drive. You have to break it the exact same point every single time and you. You got you know it's it's very technical. I was like a chance to thirteenth place, NASCAR nationwide driver, but I crashed a lot more than I should have because when you running tenths to thirteen place two hours into the race. You're thinking there's nine. Is that are going faster than me? Like obviously I should be going faster, so you just kind of run out of patience. You know that's as you Jimmy. Johnson said he said. If you think you're going slow, you are. If you think you're going fast, you're not and if you think you could have possibly gone a little quicker, you could. Conduct does he make sense but I'm sure it does. Intuitively so mile. Okay, Robbie Maddison! That guy's special right yeah I think. He did something that no one really did. I think he made an art form out of this like I. I showed my wife the one where he wrote a motorcycle and the ocean. It's motherfucker road, a dirt bike out into the ocean and wrote a wave. There's some art form of his or some elegance to him. That's. That's so special. What's about motto is meadow was a top racer? He raised with Chad read like he was one of the best amateur motocross years that really came out of Australia, and then he gets into freestyle and he's like man i. just I have so much more fun doing this, and then he has a couple, really bad injuries, and he's chasing this and he was. At one point the best, but he never won like the X.. Games because he always got hurt or something came up, so he started working. At least like what am I passionate about and you know has a wife and kids now. It's funny because he's actually. Taking on. More risk per se but things that seemed like more risk. She jumped the Arc Arc de Triomphe eat unbelievable, but he takes the time, so he'll do one year. And when he dropped into the wave like he trump's in jollies on a dirt bike, riding off, the back of a barge hits this and he's got a full riding gear and everything. You're like Oh. Gosh, like you're GonNa if you fall Mike. Mike and he did trash, but he was good, but everybody does now. He's very methodical. Usually. Don't get hurt doing stuff. That's the craziest because you've thought of everything through, and he really gives it the time to make sure that he's done. All of his eyes crossed all his T's. And that's why Madison successful, but he is in situations where you can't inch towards your goal, so the arc triumph stunt. What's he gonNA build sixty five triumphs on his way up to that level where he finally jumps that high and lands like at some point, there's a leap of faith maybe. Maybe. Maybe there's a way to inch up. What are you promoting currently for me? Just just trying to get a little bit more support for basically I'm starting to track because I want to stay in Maryland more I've been traveling so much and especially now during the scoring team I think. I'm so much time with my family that would have never gotten back. And this is first time ever I've gotten routine with my wife, and I mean we're cels, skating and riding and stuff. We're doing it here at home and home. Schooling was a little difficult with with the kids I was so bad at it dude, yeah, the pet, so when's he took? So. I was okay. Do the fun stuff and I always love you anyway. But what I really got out of this and what I really want to do is push action sports, so many people want to come over, and they WANNA learn backups. They want to do stuff and I believe we can help people do this stuff safer. We can help the next generation. Come up I. Mean Right now. Video Games are taking over the world which is great, but kids. Kids aren't getting outside as much in for me like I grew up outside I, love being outside his love go-carts. They love be AMAC's. They're always doing something. You're trampolines, so I wanNA build this park where my wife she works for Women's Sports Foundation and she can help coach. Kids and my kids can come out there. We can go kart, so want down. This huge road spent the money trying to figure out the closest to my. My House that we could build this amazing silly that I could just work side by side with my wife that we weren't GonNa be touring as much, but that was still held her circus, and really helped show what this rallycross track UB and help the Olympic training facility where we're bringing some of the top athletes from all around the world to come train there, which is I think we fund with community, but there's a conservative association which. Which Queens County they're basically a political activist group that is an anti-growth through, and they have a lot of money, and they could not get one single person in the towel. Sellers will Maryland to oppose this. Everyone in the town wants it. Braille, im seven people over in their county that were willing to go in there filing every single thing they can file and basically trying to prolong this, so we can't break ground for two three years. So if you live on the eastern shore. At the end of the day, like I think it's going to be an awesome thing for the community for the Stayton and hopefully for for the United States in general where you have all these other athletes coming in not some all over the world. Come kick our butts, but yes, it's it's going to be a lot of fun so hopefully the up a mess and we'll get the message out that it's not building. A motorcross tracks going to be. Be All dusty were were working with electric, trying to keep the noise down a little work the town but I just want stay home family. Let me ask you because I'm an addict and recovering one, and so I love drugs and I love all this stuff I think there's an HBO sports I watched on it. There's a very high rate of dudes and extreme sports that and being meth addicts or opiate addicts unimagined, both the meaning the thrill at all. All Times would make nice candidate for that, and then all these surgeries. What's been your relationship with like opiates and all that stuff? Luckily me. Opiates made me sick like I. Hate like after you come out of anaesthesia like I'd rather tolerate the pain, so I guess it's a blessing for the sports that we do for sure. Most of the Action Force guys that I know that have gone down that road. It's been there back or they have something a. A disc or something that just nags, and they can't sleep, so they start with the sleeping pills, and then when they start taking sleeping pills, something clicked. Something goes off, and then it's the the opiates and sleeping pills, or it's the the alcohol, and then the concussions on top of that it's not a good mix for sure, and then plus one of the hard things is one of my cousins is actually the only smart guy family. He's T shirt. and. I want to see like the sixty minutes on. You guys like at the end of when we're about to die when they do something on like that generation, the last of the like the crazy daredevil generation. What happens to you guys when you have kids like my wife? For instance. When she was sixteen, she was snowboarder and a skater, and she stayed with a seventeen year old. That was making million dollars a year and his brother, and like a couple of other people that are between the ages of fourteen and seventeen, the oldest kid in the house, staying living mammoth mountain. With your making money traveling the world, best friends in they find the parties they find. All of everything comes to him so easily and then at twenty five. You're beat up hurt. You really can't even stand up your knees `red jacked up. You couldn't even get a job at McDonalds because you standing all that time. You just can't physically do it, and then all the sudden. You're finding what minimum wages and what construction paychecks are, and this is your lifestyle so different and the only way to get that a dream of Russia's. You're not all the city, not being able to afford the motorcycles in the cars and the. The the fun times, and that's kind of where that depression the no sleeping, and then the the I need some way to get that feeling back so in my opinion, that's what I've seen. Well. That's the thing that leads the depression. You have camaraderie in your community, and then you leave that community when you stop doing that sport, and that's like these football players. They all get depressed and they don't miss the money, and they don't miss famous the Camaraderie. Agree a hundred percent with that. Do you drink? Yes, okay, good holy drink! Do you drink a lot? You know when you felt a little the doctor's things. Yes. Yes what one beer week. Five years a week. Alcoholic like. It's. Just had to answer that question recently and I always lie or you do I do. Want to like. Drink six days a week. Yeah! socially. In trouble. First Class. The booze is free. It'd be as descended ways that. We'll travis you rule I. Want to hang out with you. We usually go with a policy. That's new friends, but I think with our kids being the same age liking the same stuff. This is GonNa be great all right well I. Adore you and I'm excited to come to your compound. I think about it all the time. Every single time I i. look at Your instagram page. I'm like when will I get to drive on that? That wooded beautiful track at so Gourd. How many acres are you on? While the interesting thing is? We had a neighbor that had twenty acres, and we had a motocross track on his property when I was twelve, and then there was one hundred acres that got broken up into twenty Acre parcels and one military guy in the rest of us are motocross and the military guys awesome, so he flies his helicopter over all the time. So it's just for being right outside. We're sixteen miles outside of the DC beltway, and we are in the middle of redneck heaven yet. Wow, but we're you. Go Get your groceries. Get sweated all the time. They're note. Maryland's probably the place to get recognized at least I feel like action. Sports is like fight club. Like you don't speak about during that. Time was a little different. Yeah, pretty much everyone like anyone that has a flat brim tat or Thing Fox whatever? You get a little nuts. You get all the way through the airport everywhere when you sit down restaurant at dinner, always have like a free drink shows up from someone. That's it doesn't really help drink. Earlier but. It's like I mean that perfect spot. All Right Travis well again I adore you. You feel emasculated when I watch you do things you're. You're braver than I. You're more talented than. And I'm so glad we got to talk. Thank you, so try beyond. Speak. Perfect round. Two people can hear you. All right. Stay tuned for more armchair. If you dare. We are supported by square. We love him. We use them both as consumers and merchants. 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DAX AT LIQUID IV DOT com get better hydration today at liquid. Ivy Dot Com Promo Code Dax. And now my favorite part of the show the fact, check with my soul mate Monica pattern. Monarch's just talking the Mike's foot nine feet from her. Forgot how to do this. You're just talking about watching Ocean's eleven without me. Yesterday and young son is in town weekly and shockingly weekly had not seen oceans. I cannot believe that neither he's seen every movie. That's a big one to leave off. He said yeah, but it's one of those famous movies. I just have not seen as are any you've not seen like really famous ones and I couldn't think of one railing I. Don't think so, there has to be. You haven't seen others ripe for an argument over what famous is off. Have you seen my best friends wedding no! That's a very famous movie moderately successful, maybe like one hundred million guide. Both famous romantic comedies of all time I believe you. What does it? Someone's a wedding planner? Wedding. No my best friends wedding is Joya Roberts and Jira and Dermott more Rooney Ordeal McDermott now. Dermot Mulroney yes and their best friends, but they had this pact that they'll eventually get married. They're kind of in love. Best friends forever, and then he gets engaged, and so she tries to sabotage cameron the as Oh. She tries to sabotage and at the end she. She basically surrenders and get married. It was one of the first romantic comedies. Boy Yeah that like flipped on its head. It is one of my top is up there with Ocean's eleven Boma Gosh really how many times have you watched it? Forty thousand, okay I was guessing at how many times you'd see notions. I was telling earn. That's like one of your top five and I guess a forty times. Forty yeah way more than that. I used to I used to times a year since it came out I. Don't think you understand how my life work. No, you don't. When I was young Gal, I would watch so much TV in movies and like I would just all every night. Put something on, and generally if I was attached to something at the time, it would be the same thing for like a month. So I watched Ocean's eleven I every day. Forty Times the first year. For sure, and then I watched it on commentary like the same amount. Because the truth, it was, it was Brad Yup mat-su. Clone Dr. That's right. They were all in the commentary. I loved the commentary like Oh my. God but we'll hunting home. Terry is Ben and Matt. I could probably recite the commentary as much as I could recite the movie. But your favorite part of the commentary well, they talk about. Robin, Robin died. Talk a lot about. How they wrote it for him, and that's just one part many parts. I love commentary so much of these movies. Especially, these boy movies because I felt like they were talking to me yeah. Yeah Yeah, sure I felt like. I was in on one of the real conversations. P. Cues. Of course, of course you probably all titter big time big time flustered. Have you ever watched the commentary oh? Yeah, my favorite movie thief, which I've seen in excess of two hundred times. I've listened to that commentary several times, but it's disappointing. It and I don't really want to get into. Why is I would be publicly shaming one of the persons involved, but I just. I held the movie and in this sane esteem. And sorry. That happened to you with the commentary. You thank you I like extras to i. used to really like extraditing I've down here about anyone who wants to be. A filmmaker should just watch the extras on Miller's crossing so that you can hear Barry Sonnenfeld who was the Coen brothers DP for I don't know five movies the first five movies he gives a tutorial on lenses and what they do, and as part of this extra, and it's like it was going to film school I'm like Oh. I understand lenses completely now. Yeah, that's nice. Nice I see so into something that you just want to consume every single element you know it's funny in the Sarah Marshall Commentary. Christine isn't there, but she liked calls in for a little portion of it. Yeah and thoughts before I knew are when I saw that right right? We were just newly dating at that point. She's probably driving your house Oh my good. There's a funny story in there, but it's. It's embarrassing to me, but. Okay I was in Baby Mama. They came out back to back. And Baby Mama had a date and then Chris had judge said he's. He wants that date same studio. And I said well, I don't think they're gonNA. Move a Tina, fey movie off a date. And guess what? They moved the date. OP. Funny I was trying to flex on behalf of Tina and. Proxy Flex Flex by proxy. Yeah, it didn't pan out my favorite was really. Fantastic Loved Sarah Marshall. That's a great movie. It is a great great movie. In love with Jason Segel. Of course, he's funny is into muppets those are cute characteristics. Speaking of into. There's one thing I was trying to say. The Jerry Weintraub documentary is really fantastic. People should watch it I. Think I. Think it's on Hbo Showtime. Very interesting guy. He had been the manager I WANNA. Say of like led Zeppelin. He was like the Colonel Sanders of not Colonel Sanders. That's Kentucky Fried. Chicken Colonel Parker Elvis's kind of puppeteer. Oh, I don't want to say. He was a puppeteer, but he was. He was very involved in in led. Zeppelin's live. In Sinatra's life, he made the original oceans with Sinatra, Dean Martin and all these guys and then. Late in his career, he puts together Ocean's eleven with that cat which he didn't have the time. Really have kind of capital to do that. Well, he hadn't had hit movies for a long long, but he was a. he was a legend. Totally legend. Yeah, and weirdly enough went very early on Shauna Robertson Kristen's front, and a good friend of mine invited me his house in Malibu for a party. And I'm like walking around this house, and it is on like ten acres on the ocean is enormous, and I'm like what the fuck did this guy do? Why is this guy so loaded I go to the shitter and there's like two dozen gold records in the shitter. Zeppelin's up. When lives up in all these other ones? Okay, that's why this guy is fifty million dollar house any who the way he put together the new Ocean's eleven was. He called Brad Pitt. Yes. And he said. Hey just got off the phone with George Clooney and Matt Damon They WanNa. Make this movie ocean's. We're going to go, and they want you in it and bras like wow, well if they're in a great and then he called Colonie. He, just lied to all of them, but it worked out beautifully, and everyone had a great time and sometimes i. Talk about it on the commentary in and they talk about it in the Weintraub document. Lied to everyone, but it worked. You got to do that I. Guess as a producer on that scale. That can't be done. Really. It's a unique person to get those three top I mean those three were at the top of their game. Can't get all three of them and. hotness, big-time top of their hotness, angelea robbers in come on back to Jay. As its cheadle, oh nine. Movie Water Movie But speaking of me speaking of muppets. Speaking of me okay. A little clunky on the transition. Things bore when it made sense. Now I have to do all this okay backtrack. Any WHO TRAVIS PASTRANA? Care Incredibly Niche Oh. Sure sure sure. Not Not for Dudes, but yes for you. Most dudes in America know who travels. They're not into motorsports. I know who he is and his his occupy. There's not hundreds of people making a living at his. That's it's very niche. This very is you're right. It is very neat. Yeah, you're in heaven, I heaven in this episode serve no other purpose than he and I are now communicating texting each other, and soon as covers over Lincoln and I are one hundred percent going to his compound to ride razors. I guess he'll be driving mavericks, but we'll be driving raisers where players family he is, he's left. Had nobody knows any of these sports are? The five boys listen shown. I'm talking to different manufacturers. Look! There's three or four manufacturers of side by sides. UTV's employers is number one. They're the best. They're the best the most reliable best performance everything a competing one. That's really good is Canam they? A Maverick and Travis has gone to the dark side. Okay. So, if you own a maverick, I love you and I'll see you on the dunes, so no shade, but I'm Scott, okay. I bleed ours, er! Continue Oh gosh. Okay okay, so speaking of Lingo that nobody knows so a couple times. You guys were talking about one twenty fives, and you said some other numbers and stuff, and you can just tell people now. In case they've been waiting on bated breath to find out what that means. Well I bet they're like you and they just filed it into white noise. No interest and they don't even want to explanation, but I'll tell I'll give you. So an internal combustion engine works on the principle that there is a piston inside of a cylinder. Piston goes up in the air and compresses the fuel inside and when it gets compressed, it makes it combustible. Spark goes off. An explosion happens. The Piston comes down now. The volume of that cylinder is measured in CC's motorcycles. So a one twenty five means, there's one hundred and twenty-five sees of volume in the cylinder. And then the step up from that would be to fifty, so there's two different classes in motocross back when they were two stroke. That's a longer conversation, but in general, the original internal combustion engines were to stroke meaning the Piston went up in compressed. That was one stroke. That ignited exploded and went down and got rid of the exhaust in one now the way your car engine works, and now the current motorcycles is there's four strokes. There is compression ignition exhaust an unforgiving one, but there's four processes to get the gas and the gas out as opposed to processes to get the guests in and out. Wow, two strokes had this crazy power band. They're slow, and then all of a sudden. They're outrageously fast. They're hard to predict now for strokes are just a very even power him. You just learn glad. I asked it was a tutorial in any. Combustion engine. New Everyday so back to white was relevant is he was doing all of his stunts on a one twenty five right half the displacement of the guys he was competing against. They had way more horsepower yet. He was still winning. That's only reason it was worth bringing up. Yeah, okay, so the one part where my ears perked up no plenty of times, my ears perked up. They got really perked when you're talking about the foam pit. And I- obvious you know so much about foam. From your cheer background exactly and then he was saying that it started at Woodward camp which you knew about I, knew that because when I was younger, my best friends to my best friends were gymnasts were high level gymnasts a and they went to Woodward camp every. Little paper to. It's gotta be costly. Too I'm sure it's not a right right I'm sure it's not cheap I. Hope You have a scholarship programme me, too. Yeah, I hope so, too. I've seen a couple of HBO. Real sports about how costly like literally baseball's gotten all these different sports where like to be competitive. You're expected to spend the summer at one of these camps, and then the the travel team in the hotel expensive. It's like. Fifty thousand dollars a year to. Play Little League, which is. If you're, a poor kid. I compete. I don't know what the solution is out wall that crap. Or Scholarship. But it's, it's not fair. Think Scholarship. Yeah, even in high school like it's expensive for cheerleading the uniforms. The this that it really does add up if you don't have the money. Walter screw the only reason I'm not in the NHL currently as we didn't have money for me to do hockey and have ice time. I know I would have been in the NHL gone retired twelve years ago. It'd be depressed and I'd be back on the bottle. That's the truth. Call on my teammates. You Wanna get together. Like Yeah, we found management jobs with teams and you didn't. Okay so he said that risk-takers don't have as much Mayo. In their brain. Our family of enzymes that catalyze the oxidation of Mono Means Mano, a means employing oxygen to clip off their amine, group and Mayo. A is a logical enzyme to investigate in depression, because it regulates levels of all three major mono, a means Serotonin norepinephrine and dopamine in the brain. That's the one I always forget. Nuoro Epigraph Rabbit Nora Ephron. You Always Forget Nora O. and then she was wonderful Oh. Yeah, she was okay. Because of the vital role that Ma owes play in the inactivation of neurotransmitters, Emmy Oh dysfunction too much or too little is thought to be responsible for a number of psychiatric and neurological disorders, for example, unusually high or low levels of Mayo's in the body have been associated with schizophrenia depression. ADD substance. Substance Abuse Migraines and irregular sexual maturation. Eh Ob research suggests that high sensation seeking reaches into every aspect of people's lives, affecting engagement in risky sports, relationship satisfaction before and during marriage tastes in music, art and entertainment, Driving Habits Food, preferences, job, choices and satisfaction, humor, creativity and social attitudes, a while non right. It got none of those. No I mean I. Don't think I have. A! Oh No, that's I haven't said yet the correlation, but that's just saying. Those are high sensation seeking people which clearly you are. Okay compared with lows in station seekers, high sensation seekers are more likely to smoke abuse, alcohol and drugs. And are more attracted a high stress careers. Schiff, we've been doing all this stupid psychological work and my trauma in my childhood, my background and clearly it's just we don't know yet. A heavy, even God. Lack of Ma, Otani? Okay, you're right. I'm trying to be risking the ending. The personality trait may have a biochemical basis. High sensation seekers have lower levels of Manoa me and sinise Titan be. And ends. Bing Bing Bing, bing. Enzyme involved in the regulation of neurotransmitters, particularly dopamine, according to Suck remains, book, behavioral expressions and bio social basis of sensation, seeking and our research review chapter he wrote the book biology of personality and individual. Differences okay. Also WanNA levels tests Ma. Ob Levels Test Yeah, moreover, published in one, thousand, nine hundred determined that sensation seeking which is higher in men than in women peaks in the late teens and early twenties, and gradually declines with age along with levels of Testosterone Eh Mayo which is low in high sensation seekers in with age in the blood and brain. Are you going to tell people that you're on testosterone absolute on here several times. Yeah, well, you're on testosterone a Montessori. Currently at the levels I should have been at in my late Twenties early thirties my when I got tested, might my levels were like in my late fifties? And I think there's some correlation between physical trauma in reduced testosterone production because my father. My father had like zero testosterone at a certain point and was on antidepressants. And then he got onto susteren. He no longer needed antidepressants. It has a big affect on your mood for a male. That's the thing I like most about it more optimistic when I'm on and I'm more hungry to work and hungry. haven't noticed how it is affected my food intake. I didn't say how many more state I didn't even. Oh my God. We just figured something that. Remember I didn't even like stay. I've never liked it my whole life two years ago I'm like I'm going to try every single steak and see which one I like, and then I become like a steak of file. Oh my gosh, that's definitely not. Sports more to all my God. Okay so use said, and you say Oh, you said you're definitely going to get hit by carpet. Drive a motorcycle which I didn't like. The most common motorcycle accident happens when a car makes a left turn in front of you. This is the single most dangerous situation motorcyclists accounting for forty two percent of all accidents, including a motorcycle and car. Yeah, you got to really be Oltra focus when you're going through intersections. All. Add though La is a really big. Town and that's where most of the people I think. The PCH, the deadliest road in Los Angeles County, and generally it's it's knuckleheads making a fucking u-turn. They've parked at the beach and then they make a u-turn across like six lanes. And a lot of motorcyclists have just been cruising on the road. Awesome knucklehead bus a U-TURN. Turn out of nowhere. Okay well. This is a scary paragraph about to read a cold guy. The NHTSA reports that that thirteen cars out of every one hundred thousand are involved in a fatal accident, but motorcyclists have a fatality rate of seventy two per hundred thousand. Okay so that's six. That's five times, yeah. Motorcyclists are also at a greater risk of fatal accident per mile traveled for every mile travel motorcycles have a risk of a fatal accident. That is thirty five times higher than car driver. In two thousand four, there were thirty, seven, thousand, two, thousand, four, who cares? Motorcycles sales have declined so maybe two thousand and four was maybe like peak motorcycle ownership. The millennials don't give a shit about motorcycle. Sadly, I don't even show by any motor sports sadly. It's good ultimately for the environment. I suppose that's true. That's true. Okay, so he talks about electric. That's going to go from zero to sixty in a second. And then you said that probably hits four. Jeeze, aw, it actually hits two point seven three five GS, two, zero, sixteen one second. Yeah, that's bonkers. That's what drag cars did in the day back in the day. It says right now. This is you. You'll know more than me about this, but it said that fast zero six to using a tesla in ludicrous mode well, this is the Bugatti. Very Rome. Yeah. Chiron they ron and they run. Superstore are capable of zero to sixty time of two point five seconds. They currently have the fastest zero to sixty time of any production car. Yeah, that's a one point. Four million dollar car and it has a double you engine instead of a V, and it has four turbochargers on it, and it has like three or four radiators, and it makes over thousand horsepower in its four wheel drive. Only it is in sanely fast. I was at the auto show one year I went solely to see the Veyron. Into, them and I was looking at it through the ropes. They asked if I wanted to come closer so of course I, said yes. I'd be more mad at myself for saying no okay so I was now in the car right? And then a guy leans down and he works body. He says drive this thing and I said absolutely any, said okay. Meet me at this. Beverly, hills dealership in a couple of days. Oh, I think. At the time there was only four in the country. And we went out on Burton Way and I just did whole shots from light to light, and that thing would go. I could get up to like one twenty five between lights. Very, minimal very safe closed course. close course. That means when people fuck around an instagram in cars, and then they get. Shamed. Some people have been arrested on my God and they'll say close course. What's that mean? One top gear will shut down two miles of Angeles crest dot it and then we're allowed to do whatever we want. Cops there yeah, so some people will post close. Course is not really a close course, okay? Yeah I'll leave it up people to decide. All right well, that's it for Travis that is. Oh okay. What did I want to say about him? Just I, don't know. I'm excited to go to his house. Yeah, What an interesting life! One of the more unique one of the most unique, American life experiences, yeah, and I truly have no judgment, negative judgment because I think it's amazing I I like that philosophy of what's the point of living if you're not living the life, you wanna live. And I also think Oh my God. Could I ever get close to a person like that? You said it was a pretty selfish lifestyle afterwards, and we had a debate about that, and that's fine. If that's your choice, but it's I. do think though it's a little misleading, because like yes, I, get your point that selfish because there's a threat of death, right? But more often a huge percentage of America the person's dedicated their life to their career, whether it's a lawyer or the CEO or all these different occupations that are like seventy eighty hour week, occupations. Yeah, and so you've lost that person to that career in general. You're going to see them on the weekends, but they're stressed. And Travis yes has the threat of death looming, but his time is less, and he's at home with his family. Doing this thing, so you gotta be really granular about what you want out of the relationship, because if it safety. It could have the illusion of safety, but you could actually have much less of that person's life. Yeah, that's true. Everyone's different and every person probably has a different answer to this, but if I was picking for my dad, would I prefer to have him work a ton and see him maybe not that much. But feel pretty pretty confident that he's not risking his life every day. I would pick that, but you know it's funny because this is kind of your parents, what do you mean like? This is the the Lens that your parents look at life is like safety, but there's so many elements to safety like his safety. Emotional safety is safety totally. Connection Yeah intertwined lives, and yeah is a physical safety. I can tell you one thing I'm judgmental of in the way that you are. That I. Am Not just man I really am not I think whatever works works for him and his family I think that's lovely. Yes, and I. Don't think you're making a character assessment of him when I say judge, mental, I'll say I'm judgmental of something. I've noticed recently occasionally when I'm traveling. would never watch it in the home. My wife Went Milan. It and I want my kids to necessarily see, but I'll watch like three hours UFC when I'm at a hotel. And I've noticed the last couple of times I watched that. The fighters bring their kids and I, don't. I. Don't think a six year old should be watching. Their parents get bloodied to all hell. And the fight having to be stopped. In I mean I. I can't see how that's not traumatic. Now imagine the fighter is so confident about the contest that they're going to win in their mind. They're going to be dominant and their child's going to be proud of them. That has to be what they tell themselves. And fifty percent of the people were GONNA lose. No matter how confident they are! That's going to happen and so half of the kids that go. are going to watch their parents get obliterated, and it's got to be very scary, not fun to watch. To wonder if he that they have a rule that like the family doesn't watch him. do those stunts unless they know they've like they worked out, and then they can see him after the fact, but maybe not on the day watching the big strong. Maybe yes I think seeing. It has an added level of trauma, but there's a innate sense of insecurity you grow accustomed to. If your parent is putting their life on the line every day that goes for military families to its situation where it's like you go to bed at night, and you're just not sure yes, but I. Don't think any navy seal would want child to be watching. The rate of Osama bin Laden's compound live. Right, now that's what I'm saying. Regardless of whether you see it or not, you. You are then forced, and you're forced as a child. You don't get to make this decision. That you are now living in a state of some insecurity about the people you care about the most in the world and I think that probably has an effect whether they even realize they probably think their parents are superheroes in some way like they probably believe even more than the parent that they can do anything. Like the DAD's a superhero, which is well, yes, yes, so it might not be full of anxiety and might be of like do it again. He can do it. They might not be nervous at all watching it but I. What I'm saying is I wouldn't want them to see when it goes bad right, but he also like he has a lot of people in his life. Who Died? And Bat. I didn't grow up with my parents having a bunch of people have I your Dad's job. Let such a different internal programming of like. Yeah, this guy that came over two weeks ago is dead now, but you know what I guess now that I'm thinking about I, guess one of the elements that I think appeals to me about it is my endless desire for control, and in some way me. Getting killed by cancer pisses me off me. Getting killed by something I hate didn't want didn't sign up for versus me dying. Doing something that I chose to do that I love. Some about that to me, that feels. Better I I Respect that and to me. That's a selfish thing to say right Charlotte. I would prefer you die of cancer, not next year. No not next year, but if I died at forty of cancer as people do, and then I hadn't done anything I love because I was afraid of dying and this fucking stupid thing got me yeah, when I could have been doing everything I loved well. It's a balance right it's about. Anything Yeah you love them in the safe side of all these things. I'm not trying to set any world records or Okay, you just knocked on wood desk I built. Alright, I love you.

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Mini Ep 135 - Travis Pastrana Joins

"Yeah Hey, guys! Thanks tune in. We're just GONNA. Do a quick episode this week. We're so lucky. We just had Travis Pastrana on. What's IT, still? Chad Kroeger combination with podcast guys before we began our Mandy once again that we are brought to you by manscaping landscape, thank you so much for keeping our trends puberty for looking after our hogs for making sure that we're looking fresh and clean because. Lockdown maybe. You know almost over and when you step back out into the world, you want the world to know that you took care repeated, so shout demand, scape, use code. Go deep twenty months. Get Dot Com to get twenty percents off. Go deep tweets dot, com and We hear a Hammock padres on Thomas. Without boom collapsed hookers. And that we're here with. The legend. Eighteen time gold medalist motocross rally car, everything Travis Pastrana thank you for coming on. Thanks well, that's the that's the best sponsored open that up with man. That's great You gotTA. Manscaping I'm married. If there's no manscaping, there's there's nothing happening there, so yeah, it's. Getting a first question. Do you manscaping not not the moment. I have to man for sure on Ice Nice. Anyway, I'm probably avoid the rest of those questions, yeah! My wife makes sure that A. Thank you for divulging as much as you did. We appreciate any Intel. You can give us. On your grooming go. Down that route, you know what is not the way I was starting. Well you're kind of I've been following you pretty much whole life in the you've always been in emblem of Stoke. feel like and Our whole thing is sort of like stoke of start off with question of what gets you most stoked. I think passion just waking up with something you really WanNa, do and you know or be a part of or just have good people and at the end of the day like? I realized when I was probably about sixteen I was I had the best year. My life as far as if you look at. Results. But it might have been one of the loneliest times my life like yeah, put my head down worked hard. My Dad was a drill sergeant, the marine, corps, you know you. You kinda grew up that way. If you slip seven am on a Saturday, you are lazy. Kinda deal so starting nitro circus, and we traveled around the world with our best friends. Now my wife and kids and yeah, we're part of a circus. We're GONNA. Come in quite as much, but at the end of the day with your best friends. All the it's even the worst day is still freaking awesome. You know, right. That's awesome I during the great life. Yeah I. Mean at the end of the day. That's like. It's been better than any like accomplishment a race win or anything just to be able to. Just, have awesome people that are passionate about lights that surrounded that are always positive I mean positive can be very negative as well like. Get up! You, know! that. Keep you on your toes. that's great. Yeah, and and so grown up and stuff that you always have sort of like this competitive drive in you sort of. Did you always have sort of a group of friends surrounding you, or or is it something you saw grew into as as he. Got Older starting off. You're Kinda just. Lone Wolf. to achieve Kenniston. Now I mean I guess my dad had five brothers? His oldest brother was quarterback for Denver Broncos My grandfather was golden glove boxer in Navy and They were all Division One sports and that was the runs in the family. I got beat up. All the time couldn't throw, couldn't. Catch good run, so had to kind of show offs in the only way I knew how and that was with a motor or jumping flipping off the highest object so for me, that rivalry was more said had so many cousins, and they were all more bad ass than I was. I'M TO FIT in. And then realizing I was really durable, so that's super important for Action Sports. Are you. Are you injured right now? It seems like I went through your like a list of injuries and it's. It's it's exhaustive. Get No tell me about. I'm I'm pretty good. I mean you know. I gotTA wake up every morning before my kids get up and get the hot tub and your my stretches, my my oldest daughter. She's in cheer now, so I'm trying to like. Her, through her. Her like I can't do anything she does, but like stretching routine has been really helping out for most of my my. That's silly. Is that sounds? We always thought we were like training for like you know wrestling and roughhousing and trampoline and stuff turns out what he's trained trainer for cheer as such crap, but yeah, then interesting. She's a flyer. Started flipping on a trampoline when she like four so I mean I, thought was action sports, but now it's it's changed man you've changed. Did you watch cheer on Netflix? I refuse absolutely not. Was it good? Oh, it's amazing. Why did you reviews I just? Try Not to get spend any more in my life that I. have to edge, I'm. Not as inundated so for me, it was like fun departure. Yeah, it's not a departure. It's my reality I'm. Going to here's, how early do a trick like? How early do you know if it's GonNa? Go well or not like. Can you instantly tell from the takeoff? You can tell before you even take off the lip. You can tell if it's not gonNA work. You know like you get that like the speeds right powers, right everything and there's so many chances that you have to mess up a trick on your way through the progression but it's Kinda step by step if you can take over the mental aspect of. This is going good. This is going bad like you just have to hit your steps at times. You have to hit. You guys obviously Surfin and everything. It's its. Right you're. is more martial arts candidate I used to by the. Well, I had an extra seventy and a CR eighty and. But the power ban on the CR eighty was too powerful for me and I couldn't keep up with it so I retired from it at that point. They'll put you on your, but I mean. You have to get used to crashing actually actually. I had a pretty good crash today. I'm still walking, but it's like. If you're not pushing, you don't really It's not fun anymore. Style. Avoid doing stuff. That's too big or too stupid, but you know that's kind of our nature, so but when you know that the tricks GonNa. Go bad you. What do you do at that point? That's interesting. The guys that succeed in Action Sports Sports in general I mean. It's trying to make the best or worst scenario like think about this. You're in the air. You do a two hundred foot jump. You're going eighty miles an hour. Your five stories up now. I can't drop from five stories to my feet, and I can't run at eighty miles an hour so. Bad off side. You get a gust of wind. You gotTa make assistant by Jump Off. Break both my ankles at best if I stay on. The Bikes GonNa land on me. I might die might be paralyzed. My break my neck so at that point. Just threes well. This is gonNA. Suck all the way around these. Don't make a choice. The difference of how quickly in recovery and how fashion get back on how you can make those last second citizens and find any way to get off in the best way possible so even when you're until you hit the ground, you're making those decisions like Jake Brown, skater You know he went like. I mean I was on my role in for Moto about the drop in for a best trick. And I'm the Rollins 20-foot-tall. His takeoff was ten feet taller, and I was, and he was thirty foot above the takeoff, so I'm looking like straight up and I see him and I can see all this stuff going through his head. He's like okay. I'm going flat going flat and he hit so hard. His shoes blew off. Didn't break a single bone usually after party that night. I. Love. The best idea but. Able to make those decisions to be like all right. How can I make this hurt beliefs? Yeah, let's kind of fun. It's kind of sick, but it's fun to. when he did the Double Backflip, how? How sure. How should were you that? You're going to be able to pull it off and and when you hit the lip? Did you know or is it Kinda Yours in air? Hoping for the best situation. I was about eight or ten in practice. We will foam pit. And I was pretty consistent, but I always missed the first one and again. That's the only one I get on racist so like I'd be like. Two three, four, five six was always good. Perfect but I always I didn't have the the the I didn't know what was going on. But that was Gary, so yeah, I basically decided. That was interesting. Because the double Backflip Day I was trying to make the switch over driving cars. And My hero Colin McRae. Was Driving on my team. Help me out all the way through running first and second with one stage to go just like the super special of the final. My best event is freestyle Mardi sitting third so I had a metal in in best trick. If. I didn't take my last job, so I'm like shoot. This isn't really worth it. They have so much on the line here for everything else read. I'm like well. Could I live with myself? I don't try. After. You make that decision. It's like just dropped in you'd everything went slow like I felt like all whip to let was slow motion. Like! It sounds so stupid, not want to be like all the energy pulled me through or whatever, but not a real spiritual person, but that was a really cool feeling just like. I mean I'm sure you've had your time slows down, but usually that only happens after I'm pretty sure I'm going to die or get hurt really bad. Happened, before even took off. That was such an interesting time and in a freestyle motocross like the it was such like an arms race between you, mets and carry heart, and I remember I was playing such as paying really close attention to it at the time, and like so Carey. Hart tried the first backflip and competition. Right at the exiting. And then he kind of break it when he landed, but he. was like eighty. He did it i. don't care what anyone says. He broke that barrier like if possible, right. It broke a psychic wall, but broke open doors and people's brains where they're like Oh shit. This is possible now and then from there. It just escalated so quickly because then the next year guys are doing like cam cans with backflips. And then it was like and then you, and then inevitably got to you hugging the double bachelor which I think people probably thought was I. Thought was impossible, like I didn't think you could do that, was, was it? Did the technology changes. Was it just people's mentalities change and that's what allowed you guys to get where? It, it's all mental like everyone, said Aw, back full, never happened, and now literally under bikes we've had you know twelve year old girls in the foam pit doing back those my wife the first day she ever wrote a dirt bike, she got a back flip around to the wheels in a phone. It Really Oh, yeah I mean I mean. She's awesome like skater and she's good airworthiness, so she was better here than she was like getting to the job, but. It, but in her head she's seen it and it worked so that was an interesting thing. Now when you get to Jesse Han still the only one that's ever done a triple backflip, but he was a hundred feet Mutare with the with a two hundred fifty pound dirt bike. takeoff was forty foot, tall, almost vertical. He only went like fifteen feet. Distance landed sixty five foot, tall wooden landing. And okay, that's that's not even a trip. That's a stunt that's. Like one in done, you're not if you crash it your that's it. but If possible and the second he did three. Everyone's like. Can you four? And you gotta think yeah with enough height at enough time, but it's not necessarily that stuff changes. It's just that you understand how to flip veteran. You don't kid I didn't think I was going to have to go back on their bike. That never crossed my mind. Right yeah, were you upset at all and guys started doing backflips. You've been dominating so much for you. Dislike man. Why did have to go in this direction? That was that was freaking. Awesome like so Kerry tried will did his first one at gravity games two weeks later, I tried my first backflip, and really it was everything on T. Labban. I don't know if you know the BMX guy. The Real World Road Rules Challenge. He's on that stuff, too. Yeah, did he? Absolutely, he's like dude. You guys are sissies. He's like vital how to ride a dirt bike. I'll be back living every track. With Kerry, so we went to Woodward together like. Like I don't know like it's heavy. He's like I. Don't care what it is. It's physics like lots never good at physics silicon. I'll take your word for it, but. And Kerry did that. And then you know then. It was like it was kind of two years before Medicare came out once he did it. It was like all right game on, and that separated guys like Brian Deegan like. Crap like the Degan Barbara Drake Macelroy Dust Miller like if you look at all the top guys at the time. Half the guys. Started doing flips and continued to be. Dominant in the sport, and the other half just literally retired within the next year. We're like well. That's it I'm not willing to take that step. Interesting. How is the transition from motocross to rally cars? There's a lot to it, but. No, so I mean my. My family was construction, so we were always since I could walk I was pretty much sitting on my uncle's lap driving. Before I've even reach the peddles on his corvette China. Do you drifts around the shop? Just down where they have all the equipment you know, so? We were always driving. Go karts and anything. We could possibly get her hands on so I love driving I got hurt a lot. Every time I was hurt to broken derived dirt bikes I would drive cars and go carts and everything could that didn't have. Have such an impact on your wrists, and shoulders and stuff was also a good off day activity, and got hooked up with all the no fear in spy that actually like four said in some of the top Nascar drivers always out right where I was training for Motocross, so it was a cool off date thing and learn without really knowing learn from the best on a lot of that stuff so. That was cool. Always loved. rally I thought that was the coolest disciplined man you're going. Snow Rain, hundred foot cliffs trees whatever. Is made the driver really making the best of the worst slide and everywhere jump in flying cars, so always wanted to get into rally, and had the opportunity because a lot of my sponsor motocross were sponsors for also they do Alpine stars. Does clothing stuff so? To answer your question, the hardest part for me wasn't necessarily the driving but learning how to listen to a CO driver. So when someone's like three hundred left fiber crest Max through small gain to turn right to Max. Like. What did you just say? so learning, those numbers actually start playing video games, and as silly as that is now. Did you can learn tracks? Nurburgring which is like? Our Isla manner. it whatever Pike's peak. They're all on video games and they're pretty freaking realistic so. Wow Matt. My first car was a Subaru Sti is brothers inheritance and he had a taxi exhaust on it. I don't know anything about engines he he's the engineer guy but I knew how to drive it. It was so much fun, but my dad thought I would kill myself sold. It was away. Probably Smart, you know honestly like the all wheel drive. Though yeah, you can get in more trouble, but you can get yourself out more trouble. Right toto. It's safer than like you know I hope you didn't get you like a smart card or something you know. Yeah. No, I I mean I was like I was seventeen. And A and I think he's just like he got me like a Ford escape. These SUV it can put your surfboard in. Like, I was like okay. But was bumped. A fun. CAR, is! anyways, yeah, I had a foreign lightning knows my first car. It's probably irresponsible car you could. Yeah get a Ford lightning for your hours, just a spoiled dish, but my dad. And I think when my dad saw it because I told him about it and then I think when he saw it like his. I guess for lack of a better word is cocked, took over, and he was just like. Oh yeah bad ass. Drove it out of the dealership it like. Like. It had too much power for the chassis, and it would just fish tale out of every turn. As a horrible design. It's such a great way, yeah! Just terribly a responsible, so it was a drag racing truck. It was an F.. One fifty draggers, yeah. And actually I never. He got it from me before I turned sixty by the time I turned. Sixteen is such a heavy foot. He got rid of it. because. I wasn't gonNA. Make it long in that car, yeah! A smart. Do you drive faster or now? Do you do save all your speed for when you're doing it in official capacities, so yeah I had. Similar to your experience I was when I was eighteen stillwell in supercross I've bought a corvette was doing in. I don't know about four times the limit on our local roads and had had a big crash in a up call. Oh No! Of for me. One of a mechanic of one of my friends was in the car and you know just like he changes life for sure and you know he. has done really amazing and some awesome stuff, but he actually won the paralympics gold medal. and. He didn't tell me about the survey. I wouldn't be here. Without that man in the back. I was like beyond like no, no. To that, but But so at the end of the day. That was my wakeup call. My Dad didn't even talk to me for. A couple of months, and just like dude like we all made these mistakes with like your we did it in a crappy car is like you gotta figure. This stuff that you do for fun. You can make living awesome on. It comes to the high risk, and you keep it on the track you know and there's just. There's too many variables that you can't account for them. Not to bring it real, but if my wife wants to get somewhere fast now, she drives I'm on the road I. I really do the speed limit so now yet. Crappy lessons to learn but but yeah yeah. I'm sorry and you hear humor because you were the top racer at what fifteen top motorcross guy fifteen. I was probably the best ever was at sixteen. Yeah had had a lot of crashes after that. You had you had that? Young like devil may care kind of attitude yet. No injuries to put like the kind of doubt in your brain yet look now Kinda like Matt and said He. Met Hopkins Bmx let a start X. Games. He's like man I wish I. Had you know a body actually work? I could be awesome I'm like well. You don't have a body that works you. You were awesome. But for me like my healthiest year I was sixteen years old two weeks before the start a brought my thumb. Cut! Race I e rounds with a cast on the cast off for weeks in. One Daytona got third in the supercross outdoors. Broke my wrist just small, little bone navicular in the wrist got up still finished fourth at Moto. Cut The cast off again three weeks later. One Southwick as my first race then had a concussion broke my ankle, and my foot. And continued racing won the championship that year and that was the healthiest. I've ever stayed in racing. So. Which is kind of Ironic, so you just have to think a lot of pain. fairly cy was because I was. Not Smart enough to to know when I wasn't fast enough to win, but at the end of the day like I learned a lot having co-driver in the rally car, because I did feel responsible for that person, so said just throwing caution to the wind, and I was actually a lot more successful than cars, probably because having that co driver you didn't. Overstep something that you just knew probably wasn't gonNA work, and yeah. You get some third fists some results that. You would prefer to do better, but that's what you need to do to get championship so as. You know stop. It's different Yeah, it's really interesting. Guys I'm interrupting this podcast late. You know once again that we are by Manscaping Thank you so much for keeping. Our troops pooped for looking after our hogs for making sure that our dogs are looking fresh and clean, because listen fellas today we have a new man skate product alert. 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Yet most of the so you're the guy that got second was like twenty six. You Got I got third and fourth were in the thirties. Dude what are they? Would they be tough on you because you were so young? no, I mean. I don't know it was like there was that respect I was such a Dork man I'll straight. A student graduated high school at Fifteen with a four point. Oh my just like i. just like loved everything about just. Work like I've loved training. I love riding. I hated to fail. And, it was a really interesting kind of time, but I was just such a big fan of the guys. I was racing like they were trying not to let me I. Think but I was like literally generally like dude like a C. in. Your autograph. Started, the first race was like I hate you so much more rights now. A as get. So you did the point break skydive? And I said random question. which movie do you prefer, point, break or fast and furious. What you see. was nothing like fast and furious point, the second version of point break was good been fast fiercer copy of that so if you look back at the original Keanu, reeves. swayze just? Such a Rad cast in they overdid it like Hollywood does but I just thought you know the whole vibe of the thing, they they. They, they have got the culture and then just blew it out of the water, but it was. It was a really interesting perspective and I thought that was just absolutely awesome. Where triplex I mean. Yes, it's a horrible action film. The that I will watch. Passengers. Not Right, right? What's? What's what's your favorite movie? Favorite movie Yeah I was just watching eighteen the other day I was like man. Some really good movie. Bradley Cooper One yeah I mean. Don't rock got horrible reviews, and it's one of those just fad action bills that. Laughed all the I. Guess reminded me of that, but I like grandma's boy. yeah. That was that was pretty funny. When there's I don't know what's your facebook? Question. It is. It's. It's what I've seen. Recently that I really dug I. Guess is is a big coin admit yeah. Yeah I pope fiction. clueless like Ferris Buehler's Day off. Okay you. That was a big jump, yeah! clueless. A. Kind of somewhere between. Guess Right. Yeah, yeah, I was just trying to hit. You know like Tarantino. I like feel good. You know can around comes and. All that stuff, so. Did anyone ever you about making a movie out of your life. Yeah I I'm not there man I just I love. To. Ride H- love to drive cars loved fun Why was you said a team? And I was like? Why does he like eighteen? And then so much of a team, though is planning and executing these elaborate kind of stunk SOMOS and then thinking about nitrous circus. I'm like. Maybe there's some overlap there. 'cause like part of a blows my mind, the most about extra circuits which is. How did they come up with this I? Do they have a writer's room in there? Like all right? We're going to route. We're going to jump a rally car than have a dirt bike strapped to the top. It's a the creativity of it it. It really boggles the mind. When they're flying the tank I just feel like that's kind of what we do in action sports lying tank, but like they were so. He hasn't seen a team they get. The plane shot down, but in the back of the plane. They've gotta take with parachute. So they jump in the tank and other trying to shoot down the drones in the tank and then. There's a there's a lake, so they're fire the take not at anything. Just move it over to get over the lake. And that's like I just feel like. There's so much of that movie that yet, so far beyond anything. That could actually happen, but. If there's a will. There's a way it's like if we're playing. Is a horrible thought. You always think if the plane goes down or something like what would I do? Okay? There's my exits like I. Don't know if you look for excellence. When they say look for exits. I looked at the excess every time they can all right I can jump over. Those three people push personnel. Get to this I'm sorry I. Horrible but. You always got an excellent. I'm afraid of flying so I dig it. Yeah. I always wondered about that I'm like what if I brought a parachute onto every flood, it'd probably be weightless scared. I brought him onto a lot. Oh you have. Like. Kerryon. Kerryon! Just in case. I mean if I'm going on a trip where I have a parachute. I'M GONNA. Bring the Barasheet on as my carry on because there's no point at issue underneath the plane. I can't get to it, yeah? They come in Handy I. Just Watch, Air Force One. Yet. Perfect, any got your documentary coming out on June fourteenth right? It's the furrier race to rebuild. Yet so we add an awesome kind of opportunity. It was I. don't know if you guys have heard of guiding Ronnie Mac but this this guy is. Is a fictional character, basically that just kind of a partier and he calls. Calls me up. He's actually amazing racer like he's one of the best in the world, but he always goes out and just June rights, and then beats like he goes to win state championships and everything. Just, uniting totally as a joke, I and It's kind of funny, but some of the industry doesn't like him a lot, but he's like look. Motocross nations is like the Olympics for motocross and that's going to be held in the US. He's like quarter Rico territory of the US. You have to hold a passport derived or Puerto Rico. He's like Hurricane Maria just came in. Is like everyone is. They need funding. They don't have funding for a team he's. They're going to not have a team this year for the first time in a long time it goes. What if we go out? Would we raise funds for that team and we send that team to the Latin America, Mason? MOTOCROSS nations we go down there. We built a motocross track. we provide some some staffer schools because you know if we can raise enough money to move some houses like he goes, it'll be a really fun project, but the the motorcycle industry. They heard that Rodney. Mack was going to be doing the Motor Corp.'s. That's like going to the Olympics. As a joke and it just didn't go over well, so we got a this Guy Kevin Windham. Who is one of the greatest riders of all time? But he had literally after in two thousand fourteen. He went off the grid. This guy he's got a grizzly Adams Beard He was two hundred and thirty pounds. He put on like forty or fifty pounds since he was racing in two thousand fourteen. And only months before the event and called him up and he's like. I'll do it because the cause is either ridden a motorcycle in three years. He's three years and he you expect me to race against the best in the world, and he out qualified two of the three of the American team. Qualified team quickest. Out So each says thirty nations each with three people, so of ninety of the best races around the world. This bat out of state. Can Win Riding for Florida Rico with the night qualifies fourteen now is like, and then we ended up, we qualified to top twenty nations. Go to the main event and we ended up making it to the main event we raise way more money than we expected for Puerto. Rico went down. Put the Reuss on some houses. Most of my friends are construction so we're military, so it worked out really good that everyone just went down and off time paid her own way down, and it was is pretty cool, and then that project we filmed it, but it kind of got put on the backburner. Until? They're the quarantine and then because we weren't we were. Basically just doing it everyone in the spare time and you know with nitrous circus. There's a lot of lot of open time available and. Other heads down and got the got this documentary, but actually I'm biased, but I think it's one of the most feel-good kind of cool stories got enough Reysen. My kids still our entertained through it, so let's get yeah. Yeah, watch the trailer and Just looks amazing. It has like the. The great work for Puerto Rico. Talk about guys, basically sort of coming out retirement to bazars Retire. Yeah. So Yeah I can't wait to watch it. Though which is, is it sucks? X. Games got canceled this year, but that didn't fit in because they're you know. ESPN came to us like well or you know we got world. We got some some spots cool. We got something to fill it. It's I think it's especially this time right now. Man With everything. That's going on just. positivity is can't be absolutely sure. That's how are you doing on time by the way what's a? Miss Them I. Miss My next conference call, but it's not that important anyway. For Real we we. Started ten minutes ago. That's okay, sorry. Thought I told you know. We can let you go. Yeah! But thank you. Did Hey seriously? I really appreciate it. Gosh, definitely and. Hope hope to come on. Want to give a little more time next time. Yeah, yeah, keep talking to you. Fan. Honor, thank you so much. Thank you. Are. Also. She. We've kept going. Not Right? Yeah I mean say a conference call Yeah I couldn't tell if he meant he was going to stay on or not, so it was like. You had an. Air. What do you think? I feel like he would have stayed. Yeah! We should've kept him. Yeah. Yeah that was great otherwise, so don't worry about Shit yes. all right well. We can I can turn that around super-quick I put that am I gonNa our. That was fun. Hey. This is Joe, Barton, from the puck off podcast. Thanks for listening to all things comedy network subscribe to all these comedy shows whenever you listen to your podcast.

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"Everyone and welcome to the baseball podcast. I meant foster join today by none other than the well champion multi well champion Multi Olympic Champion SA- Chris Hoy success very warm. Welcome and thank you for joining US thank you. I'm apologize for the dress down. Appearance appearances thought it was a podcast. I didn't realize everybody at home too. Much worse body sows. I'm hiding under now before we go anywhere. I must tell you all by two amazing readers events that we've got coming up at my disposal magazine. The first or is on September the tenth and that's with Nigel Mansell and then on September twentieth we've got on with Gordon Murray to icons of the sports and overuse word but not in this case so if you'd like to learn a little bit more by the book tickets which all setting very very fast at the moment and please go to my just what magazine Dot Com forward slash events now Chris we all in one of your local up in Cheshire and not only have we spotted the Cheshire housewives here for meeting. We've also got someone trying to drill through the wool next to us yes so there's any interruptions more irritating at the to say having only heard the drilling a not not the highs while I'm going to go drilling right yeah we'll see now. We've got lots of lots to cover. Readers questions wants to talk about cycling and also obviously might just four of which your your basically kind of busy every single weekend you saying I think to start with if I read somewhere that you inspired by e was to go cycling yeah I was I guess about six years of age and it was just just before b._M._x.. was hitting the shores in the U._K.. Phenomenon U._S. that point and I watched the film and it wasn't the scene where you know they're flying off in the sky. It was the chasing at the end with the kids from B._M._X.. Bikes over jumps going went corners in a way that I'd never seen a bike used before and I was just thought this is amazing. I'd love have to give a goal so immediately Osma Parents B._M._x.. Bike I think they thought it was going to be a passing fired so you know they can't bike <hes> it'll be b._M._X.. Clearly wasn't they got it from jumble sale for finds Dodd resprayed at Black B._M._X.. Stickers takes handlebars unable to me it would be makes and that was that was what got me started and it's I suppose what's some this motorsport. Listeners nearby is obviously you went into track cycling but not until you're done quite a few years of B._M._x.. Tax Rates B._M._X.. From age of seven till it's fourteen and then I tried mountain biking road racing time trailing was pretty much rubbish all of those things <hes> and then find the track and I wasn't that great initially really I loved it was the speed that was the intensity the competition <hes> there was a track and Edinburgh near where I lived so I had accessed this facility at the time. They're only two of international standard tracks in the U._K.. So happened to live two or three miles from from one of those which was just amazing because if the facility hadn't been there I wouldn't have had the chance under with the B._M._x.. Racing do you think so looking back on that now. That gave you a founding kind of once you go until tracks. Can you changed from you know the kilometer sprint through to the carriers tactics would have an influence the the best thing that B._M._x.. was that no matter how good you wear and I was I was good but not brilliant tutted. Even if you were very strong very quick you would you could win all the time because there's too many variables motor sport. You had to learn to lose a young age where I've done that so yeah. It was just <hes> you know. I think that you you couldn't get to kind how do away with the even the really quick guys they would fall off. They'll get knocked off. They would you know there was lots of variables eight guys going start. Get into first corner old China. You know to to get get the whole show. Get the lead and you know inevitably crushes happen so the the age of eight nine ten year learning. You know. It doesn't always go your way that you could find spock. You've got to be resilient. You GotTa give your best and even if you do you know there's no guarantees so I think it was a really good grinding apart from the obvious bike candling and the physical side of things you think mentally it was a great start. Now we've got to question hair ties and quite nicely the moment from will donaldson about your early cycling meadowbank early. What is in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine hundred Commonwealth Games track in the best of condition? Oh No it was built the track for the nineteen seventy games and then they redid it for the nineteen thousand six games time they had the opportunity to refund it. I'm an apparently there was local. Oh An entrepreneur businessman who had the money and was willing to pay for the report on if they called the Belgium after him and the counselor said no we so they left the refit and etem bre shelby not remain for glorious weather all the time mm-hmm and during the game literally I think it was called the the wealthy drew that was nicknamed. It was raining all week and the only just go the racing completes its <hes> so we had to be inherited this amazing track it was fantastic to harbor of eligible in your home city but it was just as common theme of you come down on Tuesday night footrot league and you'd get warmed up you go up for the first race few spots rain and then it would downpour for ten minutes and the trump will be wet for the next theory sit and wait for another hour you just about to get back again green again in and it was it was incredibly frustrating but but it was a great track and it's always a member or I always remember that I feeling coming down the stairs under the tunnel popping up in the traffic center just looking at this incredible track and it was really intimidating velodromes uh-huh I the first time you go in when you're about to cycle in them. Superstate banking's T._B.. Never gives it you know that can of sense of St are and Yeah I just love to it was one of these things a bit late motorsport that you try at once and you get hooked and you want to do again and again I I was gonna off because the we'll we'll talk more by cycling but your introduction to motor sport it was very much also recycling create finish and then you you went into the radical S._R.. One <hes> but you you must have been very aware mode support long before your cycling crib. Yes Sir Yeah I was while I was a huge fun of coal McRae oversleeping Scottish within how many world champions back in nineteen in any sport <hes> but I think watching Cullen on his style of driving fool commitment has just this infectious <hes> in personality that you you you were drawn towards watching and supporting him so yeah calling calling to thank for for my real compassion from what sport but even before then you know as a kid I had electric set with the two nine eleven and lemon cars with the lights that came on and a member ask my doc you know why they have lights and the other cars and he said blacks for them on the twenty four race they raced through the night and that was the first spark of interest in Lemond so yeah I guess have always been an Formula One as well. You can't avoid it is everywhere and particularly in the nineteen eighties nineties. It was <hes> big news all the time so yeah. It's something I've always been a final of an passionate debate but never really even wasn't even a dream to compete. I just never thought it would be a possibility but so far away from reality that would why I would. I think I could get to compete on four wheels. We'll we'll talk about limo and a bit but you mentioned that obviously looking up to Colin McRae with cycling it was kind of it was during your career that British cycling kind of just to those of us outside it kind of reemerged and was at the forefront of everyone's mind and kind of young kids who are growing up when you were Olympics they had people to emulate and people to to look up to and say I want to do that but when you started Sony's zone in Scotland the wasn't wasn't really that what was it can hope to you and got you into and I think it was initially just the enjoyment of of racing and writing on the track. It was really fun thing to do me how to really strong club and agree atmospheric social social sites and the track racing scene because when you're at the race turn up you get your seat in the center and then you race it lasts a few seconds a few minutes you come back there and you sit and chat you up and Dane all all day so you spend time just sitting talking and you make a really strong social network from that so enjoyed that part of it but there was never any possibility of making a an international even doing fulltime winning medals was was just you know it was it was a pipe dream at nighttime same and the biggest change or we always had one person to the Cup one person that was achieving on the highest level with any support and that was grim abry who was this Scottish Maverick writer who competed against Chris Boardman in the early nineties and Chris had full new factory support you had you know the sponsors he had pizza. Keen who is sports scientists you had all the new ideas revolutionary ways to train and grim bill his own bikes with with his onto Hansie actually welded scrap scrap metal together an old washing machine in to the bank because his his philosophy was will washing machine spends a you know a twelve hundred r._p._M.. So I'm only peddling one hundred fifty RPM so these bags must be really good so I'm GonNa take these bearings. This washing machine used amendment bake. He looked you know. Even things like Wade's I want does needs to be closely what again together to be as airless possible and this is when tunnels and any kind of support any decided that you had to hit the bill this special narrow bottom bracket and use as this these bearings for it. He changed his whole writing position. He went into a skiers positions. We talked his arms episode having arms in front and changed everything he my anyone the world title the World Record Chris Boardman the governing body were absolutely shocked by the A._C._C.. We can't have an amateur coming in breaking all these records so the band position that he was writing in see went away and thought about keen by with a second position that was known as the Superman position with his arms straighten front record again became world champion again. You just an amazing amazing guy if you ever get John There's a film called Flying Scotsman on Jonny Lee Miller plays Graham and in the film on it's it's quite you know it's an amazing amazing film. It's very to the real story to his life is written a book obeys life as well as autobiography Hokey and under some southbound at two struck with mental illness and his life and attempted suicide and all sorts and but it's yeah it's a really poignant story and grim still going strong Ni- and he's still my hero so am yet. Graham is is a an amazing guys if anyone gets chance to Eh to do a bit more research about him thoroughly recommend it that is exactly what I'm GonNa be doing off but it's it's. It's funny. Isn't it. The kind of parallels with multiple inciting the underdog story the minimum love and ingenuity does get you sort of to the front and I really want to talk about kind of the British teams mentality and how you found offensive seconds in a bit but I'm wondering thinking you also you almost professional rower and no gene. I am doing <hes> yeah I did at school. I represented Scotland at junior level at the home home countries also profession it was I you know I I love doing I do miss actually got a chance China's to go rolling with Steve Redgrave a couple years ago that documentary by various sports many women who were very successful and I was interviewing them and ask them what made them champions and I got to go on a pair with Steve Redgrave on the canal in Edinburgh where I used to roll from L. Book Club and and that was that was a dream come true now. It's yours kind of what once you used U._S.. Fully professional to attract cyclist when you were saying that you never know wildest dreams imagine winning Olympic medals being world champion eleven times. When did the penny drought was it? The first medal was the first gold yeah I think it was it was a couple of moments really well first of all to make it happen. You had to have the support. We didn't have any support. We didn't have any financial backing the velodrome. Being built in Manchester was crucial because it's an indoor track see catrine twelve months a year up until point. You couldn't train you know in the winter metabank exactly so we had this facility and that was great but then we didn't have the money to rent is so British cycling had to fulltime members of staff and that was it the rest of the time you know they would have. I think they had to a month that they could afford to rent the velodrome so we had this facility but we couldn't use it. So the cat shows there were Tory party conferences that were cheerleading competitions all sorts of stuff happening in the traffic center but we couldn't afford to rent the truck owed to use it so I wasn't university in St Andrews is coming down twice a month to train I three days in a row on the rest time just turning on indoor trainers right in the roads and you know there's no way you can compete against the top guys in the World Ding. I'm doing that way but it was. It was in nineteen ninety seven ninety seven beginning ninety eight. The National Lottery started on the Lottery Fund was created for for Sport and for good causes so it meant that we were given this very fortunate to receive this grant Emmanuel Grunt. I got ten thousand pounds which meant I could pay my rent coppee for travel up in Manchester. I could pay for foods and it was it was a lifeline. It was like a million pounds. It was like this you know this opportunity to go professional so left university. When I graduated the ninety-nine went fulltime on the bike thinking might happen for a year or two and I guess it was in two thousand that Got Olympics as part the team sprint and that's when I saw my teammate Jason quickly when the gold in the kilo that was the point when I suddenly thought well it just Jason? He's just my team as normal guy. He's got to amnesty legs. He's not some superhuman who I I kind of. Maybe the Olympic champions up on a pedestal before that point and realized that you know it's possible and I didn't think I was the same level is Jason Standby thought well if he can do it. Maybe potentially a few years time I could be close to that into the Olympic champion in your team to train with everyday to help drag you up to that level and that was a huge opportunity just fast forwarding to the two thousand and four Olympics in Athens and the sea level kilos so the Kilo Ford's readers who don't listeners dino is based the kilometer. That's right yeah one thousand meters against the clock. You're not racing. Just one writers trail one one one race. There's no heat no qualifying see turn up on. It's just everything in over four laps and it's the most painful thing you can possibly do. I mean it's only a minute but the pain that you can put yourself three. When was the last twenty seconds it's indescribable? So yeah it's a it's a race of truth. You know there's no. There's no hiding this. No TAT takes us no room for interpretation. It's just for one minute and but that that particular one you <hes> didn't into two weeks before and you went last year I was reverse order in seating so I'd won the world championships and the year before and basically yeah you can sit there and watch your competitors post their times and yet by did I seven days before I got crashed in the village on the bike Milosevic right. I just finished a training session on the indoor bike for cool. Then Wade joined the village came up to Ryan to buy and there was this bus driver coming towards the rain to buy I add right away eh but he just kept coming and try and get through in front of him because I thought he's GonNa hit me and I went to fast when the rain debate hot tarmac in in Athens sleep and had a tumble thankfully it was just adrash in you know nothing too serious but it was one those moments she thank God you can easily broken arrest or collarbone and that would have been the game's over so I was very lucky there on the night itself. It was just yeah one of these when he's thinks you look back and it's great with hindsight by the team it was it was terrifying refined because <hes> for writers go Australian later Shane Kelly he brought the world records at the stand there and watching bree world record go faster than any anyone had ever gone before the next Guy Stephan from Jimmy did it again and then right before I went to start line and the Frenchman Nano Tuna my big rival he went under sixty one seconds <hes> for the first time ever and it was just as feeling of right now passionate baseball in fourth place you know they says and if you start dwelling on that and thinking about it too much your can rub it in the headlight so it was just about focusing on the process of what do to get the best raids from myself. Not what time is I had no control over that toll on really just block everything out the focus on exactly what you wanted to do take the best result and thankfully works you bro. You broke the record pretty much on every lap yet will it's. It's funny because you're not you're not pacing. It's not like an longer events. The coach would stand at the site and give you feedback on Ho faster going thing and you're right to schedule but because it's essentially a sprint you're just gonNA going all lights up every split every time you come right at the end of each lap for the four laps you get split that goes up on the screen and you don't see that but you can hear the crowd respond to what's happening on the so yeah I kind of the end. The first lap was a huge roar. I'm remember thinking it was like two things that chicken a member from the race. I remember thinking that's brilliant. I must be up and then the second thought popped into my head was wait a minute. Maybe the French supporters legs on because instict cart two years before an every split there was a huge roar crossed the line massive or looked up with the scoreboard and I was fourth and it was because it was dying on the Germans team. They're cheating jam in so I remember thinking it might not be tuned for you. Just keep going and end. The rest is about the Blair where they have watched. I've watched video so many times over the years that you're mammy becomes the video you start to lose that first person perspective and you just remember what the video in Tacoma check it give you the company bite from Porto word for word virtually actually <hes> but it's yeah it's funny man. That's what fifteen years ago so. I'm almost a lifetime of going to many ways to what happens insane but yeah so how'd how'd you train for something that loss for minute. You know that is kind of full little power. I remember there was a T._v.. Program I'm sure why you you've got onto a bike and they wanted to see where Max wattage was. A few strokes the leg and that was there and the wattage was was take off the job basically what you would do like any event training for you would assess the energy systems that you using within your body so because I'm not doing the to France or long distance stuff. I don't need to have love the aerobic efficiency to have the ability to produce as much energy in short space at time as possible so within that minute you need to have the power and the strength to get the bike off the lane to accelerate up to speed. You've got one gear and it's a big old gears. You Talk Torque to get not not bite going see dealer strength work maximum strength work really explosive power. You need to have the ability to high peak power. which is you know obviously different Tareq so you train for doing five to ten second effort's purchase a lot of power in a very short spare time and then you have to have the ability to hang onto the speed wants to fatigues at Senzo after twenty seconds the lactic acid and your muscles stocks to build up up and up and then within the last probably the last fifteen or twenty seconds the last lap and a half? Your body is is like is draining lactic acid. You're GonNa Gumby on this point where you can. The pain is hard to explain if you look at the pirates ratio pilot after about three or four seconds and then the power discount continuously comes Diana died. Even the speed is actually relatively consistent and read the constant. That's the power comes down in Dana Dana so at the end you probably crossing the line at three hundred watts and you're picking up by two thousand five hundred watts this fatigue gradient which you know it's and if you do it more efficiently. If you did a kind of flatter curve you would never get up to high enough peak speed so you have to you front-load ep so much effort into that first lap and then hang on on its as grim is one the hardest things you know trying to explain sore as and I guess you'd think will but your professional you train for that. You should be enough that you can deal with that but the more power you can produce the more pain it causes so it's almost like the fifty get hardy push yourself so but it some yeah the the training would do to create a lot to castigate ebay short efforts. Maybe thirty second efforts with a minute recovery you do that four times in a row suspend without seconds rest for sixty spent for thirty or sixty four times and then you would just collapse off the bike lie in a can of fetal position for us about fifty minutes as you're lying there your your your body feels like you know something's wrong he. I shouldn't be feeling this bod. I'm never done this again. I'm clearly going to have a day off and then to that fifteen minutes and you pop and you feel fine you go right okay. Let's say it again and again. I'm yeah there was some days where you come up with the training session in the lab. Just you and the coach no-one watching you know cried. No no nobody witnessed any of it but you would feel almost as elated as some days when you one other races just because you've made a progression of five watts or ten what's over. You're you're passionate based so it was always everything was measurable. You there was nowhere to height. He couldn't have come in and go yeah gave everything today you go hang on minute. Let's look at the data. You didn't know you didn't so yeah. It's it's there's parts of my career. I really miss but I definitely isn't isn't one of them. I mean it's yeah a lot pain so you the obviously the fitness there's a question hits from Matt's <hes> Stelle mce and this is kind of related to this and he's he's asking what the key skill is that you've been able to bring from cycling into long distance in Journal germs racing I I'm I'm guessing it's more the cure in terms of racing with all the people yeah. The biggest thing is the ability to focus on ability to blockade distraction so it's exactly same. I'm like in the Kieran or the Kilo at the start. If you start dwelling on my win what went by lease he's the he's a fast a day or you know conditions or the crowd or as soon as you're looking at things that have obviously no banning on your own performance. It's taking your your mental concentration station away from that so in the car coming towards a corner coming towards Porsche curves Lamont night thinking. I'm doing one hundred forty miles an hour here. You know this is supposed to be just lifting Ternan. Not Well looks pretty close. You know if I get this wrong over the might the oil here what happens if I had well disaster as soon as you dwell on the things that could go wrong. It's it can have massive increases your chance of doing that so you know even even a mountain biking if you're going down a hill the key thing is always look exactly what you want to go. Look uh-huh things you're trying to avoid which is the same much exactly so you focus on the lane you increase your vision you try and look through the corner on these things that new from cycling I passed across the motor sport but they're completely different skills so you know it's Z.. Come into it and you have the competitive instinct you help the desire to go fast. You have the desire to win but yeah you learn very quickly that it's going to be a you're starting at the very bottom level but that's part of what dreamy to quite enjoyed the thought of a new challenge the every time I get in the car. I'm going to be significantly better whereas on the bike you were spending a whole year or four year cycle trying to improve maybe half a tenth of a second you know the margins were so small. You're so close to the top level that you didn't have the headroom to improve but in the CAR RPG go a long way to improve which is which is good and did you were you surprised by those of the physicality of racing for for lots of your lost. My friends always ask why to racing drivers have to be so fat because they ultimate sit in a car turn it. It's I think it depends hands on the type of car. I think it depends on your level so you could get somebody who has huge amount expedience and skill and they could go right and with I you know barely raising the heart rate and barely breaking sweat but for me I just stepped off being you know a fulltime professional athlete Olympic level and I would jump into a car and I would come at the car just exhausted sweating and completely shattered but the fatigue wasn't coming from the physical effort of using your muscles to turn the steering wheel or apply the break. It was the concentration it was the stress it was your brain was working at full capacity just trying to deal with all this information on you the car on your your exhausted but I think the more skillful you are the more you can do stuff automatically more natural is T- If if you've been driving cars since you were five on your your teams or twenty s and you're pro driver you do your autopilot autopilot when you're doing the racing and you're using your brain to think about strategy or think ahead or deal with other things <hes> so the physical sites until leak out to the cars dinosaur. It's not physically physically hard but it's hugely tied in terms of your concentration emotions. Everything you come out the car on your your your shattered. It's interesting what you're saying about the focus though is an Olympian and you have that APP that ability to to focus absolutely on something and I was I was doing a little bit of kind of digging around in terms of two Joel Obscene Lamar and things like that so you're the first summer Olympian to compete at the mall but you actually the ninth former Olympian committing the more and the second Olympian champion to do so wow so is it mainly winter sports winter sports so the skiing Santa Translate. That's interesting motorists yeah so but there's obviously there's there's something now <hes> coming from the Olympics to to motoracing. I guess it's you have athletes who have focused on one one thing and they're incredibly driven and they have the desire to aim towards a goal and work towards something thing and then they retire and then it's this feeling what next and you can have other focuses and it's good to have a variety of she's about balancing your life when you've gone from doing one thing to the degree. It's nice to have a more of a normal life but you do miss the that challenge in on that focus on motor sport. I think it's high up on the list because it's just a fun thing to do. An it's an opportunity that if you get the chance to do you WANNA grab up with both hands by thank you could see why skiers here's our Bobsleigh guys or anybody that's involved in a high speed and highly skillful sport that that needs to think ahead and plan ahead the translation into motorsport would be pretty good yet so just before we kind of move onto the motorsport. I'm side of it. I wanted to talk about two thousand twelve. Obviously the London Olympics at kind of an I suppose in some sense it's a dream come true for you having the Olympics in London you retard the following year so I guess you always knew this. Was Your your final yeah. I'd ideally I would love to onto to Glasgow for the Komo's games in two thousand fourteen body had just had enough of all those nasty sessions in the lab and everything else it was yeah in many ways looking back now you gloss over the tough off times <hes> so in two thousand eight it was in a fantastic games. I three medals in Beijing on it was just a very significant moment in my career but then shortly afterwards when I came back into training and went to the first race after the Olympics <unk> an crashed and really damage quite badly and it was off the bike for ten weeks miss the world championships and then from then on it was quite a struggle <hes> just to actually get to London to be selected because only one writer per nation prevent was allowed to change changed the rules that was slightly in light of how well Britain was doing. I mean on twenty years before that I was going to happen. I mean we weren't even A.. B. Or a secret nation in Britain we were we were just you know the bottom of the pile basically back back in the day and then to think that within fifteen years we'd money's become such a dominant nation that the the powers that be didn't want us to to be winning gold and silver in each event. They wanted to just one person but imagine an athletic saying well one Jamaican one American you light to have more than one per nation. There would be an outcry because you want the best athletes in the world to be Olympic Games and so they changed the changed after London which didn't really help me but for London it meant that I had a teammate and Jason Kenney who was the quickest quickest in the world. The two of us were kind of one and two in the world in the two individual events <hes> so the choice had been made do D- divide and conquer or does one person get a chance to do both events and in the end it was the right choice. I think I'd love to defend it all three titles but Jason Jason was going back to the me and the sprint. I was convicted in him in the Kieran and together we joined forces with Phillipines won the team sprint so I got gold medalist Jason got to and fill his one and the team sprint <hes> but it was yeah it was the dream ending and I think the Athens Athens up until that point was the most dramatic night it was the first time you become Olympic jump in everything about that night was so special I never thought anything could compare to it but the final night when in the Kira and it was the last of end to the program so everybody buddy had gathered in the truck center to watch it stands were fool it by the nature of the event is a very unpredictable <hes> thing to win and yet I almost it was like within inches of all being over the German writer. Main rival Max v he almost possibly with a half lab to go and if he just cleared my front wheel he could have come down to shut the door but just managed to hang on prevent that overlap or keep overlap there and then for the last corner held the line on the insight and Kim Pasta and the roar. I mean the noise that night. I'll never forget that he talked about the effect of a home crowd. It was something special and then won the gold medal stunning behind the pudding and waiting for the presentation normally once I go on and you hear the anthems. They're not your uh-huh I I couldn't I couldn't even hold in before got onto the podium. I was in an absolute mess. <hes> because I was picking faces in the credit could see obviously my coaches and support team but when you see other guys that you know your rivals their coaches you see friends and family in the stand you see people have been there since the very beginning Ann if I had this moment flashback female career realize and this is the last moment I'm going to step on the podium Olympic Games. I felt back to Sydney in two thousand one silver medal with the team at the time thinking of if this is all ever get my career I'll be happy so yeah to finish with six gold and silver on just to be so grateful had this fantastic career so many great memories it was it was the perfect send-off and it was having that Home Olympics fix that really inspired me for the last two years which are very tough to get to the games to keep working just experience that that moment I remember watching that race standing up in front of the T._v. sitting down in the room. There's into the wonderful thing about the British the London Olympics was just amazing feeling of goodwill and I was in obscene Olympic Village a couple of times to watch some of the sports and it was just an amazing atmosphere and it was yeah we wanted to what a way to sign up. This is Kinda sad because you think you know that was seven years ago when you think the our country and I look the country and we saw unites it and it was such a feeling of June what lick it will be can achieve an wow isn't this great and there were so many there were so many voters is leading into the Games the transports terrible the weather's GonNa be off. We're not gonNA win any meadows. It's going to be disaster an almost from the moment of the opening stock to the opening ceremony when okay telephone anybody sat back the well it's not ranger and all the crowds and and it was just a wonderful time people were talking on the Tube and you know at Easter Open the curtains on the balcony. We were on the edge of the village. We had a really nice spa top floor and it looked across onto the main stadium and every morning wanting you to open your cartons and you see these tens of thousands of people flooding into Olympic Park on it was just you know trying to soak in and realized you know what this is. This is temporary thing this. This is for two weeks three weeks. You know this is something you'll remember for the rest of your life and yeah it was it was a magical team and I even to the flag in the opening seventy myself. I remember thinking that same if this is all I get from these games but don't win a meadow. The last four years of hard work has been worth it to get to this point because when you walk in when you hear David Bowie Heroes and the crow was wailed. He realized that you're leading in the nation home Olympic Games. You know these these are the things that when you're growing up just assume happen to someone else. You never think is going to happen to you so yeah it was it was a magical is too short space attain the country so divided and there's so many things that you turn the news on you think Oh God can get any worse but <hes> yeah. Let's have another Olympic Games. Show Sport Unites Sport moving tomatoes but we would you were saying how opposite the ability to focus was a huge help. Some of the kind of your racing tactics from the cure and helped with the was something you struggled with when you first contract yeah Def well. I think the biggest thing thing was understanding that you are so many more variables certainly start racing. It was a by you can't control end result. You know you doesn't matter high well prepared you are or the car is there's so many things that can go right go wrong. The fact that cars is break think components breakout AK nowhere on it could be in the last lap but look at Toyota in you know at Lemond is just to get that far in a twenty four hour as and it's not just about the twenty four hours it's about the whole year or sometimes five six years building up that moment of developing the car marketing team together everything that goes towards 'em such a huge huge challenge on it can go wrong anytime at any stage and is understanding that and realizing that you you can't focus on the end result again bringing it back to cycling focus in the process of what you need to do and understanding that yes. It's don't worry about the end result. It'll take care of itself winning or losing almost it's not relevant. That's the is to win but the MR their passionately do the best job Yukon but in terms of driving on track I think it was initially very committed overly committed and making lots of mistakes and I was encouraged to do that by Andy Wallace who is my an instructor radical and Raja Green and they were saying yeah if you not spending trying hard enough to keep going and then it's getting to the point where you realize upside down in the Barry yes exactly but he was great. He's with me in the passenger seat and you know we would we spend a Bedford and he said the way it's great place. There's nothing to hit but the one place there was a wall there's a kind of walk down the street and we'll just a tire well and a touch the white lane on breaking and it was a little bit dump still spun the car and it was like tire will grass Taiwa Grassi spun it missed a wool came to stop nope and he just turned what was excited. You did very well. It was like one hundred and eight years but yeah he's he's a legend on D.. Yeah he was really great. Helping the early days and just I guess in a car like the radical one it's out. She got danger for us. A Lot. People assume that the similar to the are three or the very little grip so the cars moving a Ryan CD learn a lot of I am dynamics the car and about your inputs in her the effect that but it was I just find it so exciting and a love the speed and love the focus of the fact that lake cycling when when I was in the car on track nothing else in the world was existing apart from the next breaking point the next apex. You know it was just your marriage yourself in this experience speeds you finish and you can have come up for air. Your there's something else happening in the world today. It's not just about driving a car and ATTRAC- yes. It was fantastic experience so when's when did you when you started thinking riot. I'm I'm going to see if I could yet. Lamar to Tacoma will see how guys always at somebody that came later. Was it just some fun it was just for just for the sacred doing it and it was filming documentary by called mccray. I'm not was accent. Oh thank you that'd be a real privilege. Do quite quite difficult to do as well because you're going in to me is family who you have since cones accident. They didn't really want to speak the media too much understand Blaine but they welcome in. You know just so much fun Jimmy all adventures. He's still a hooligan ticking me a an just you know embracing. Bring me in you know welcome to the family just yet they were. They were fantastic but the first day I remember going to filming up at the farm and just thinking this is this is tricky because they're welcoming film crew into their their home and they're gonNa talk about something that still convey raw and but it was yeah privileged to do so it was it was filming that documentary that we did a little scene of me on the track Elton Park in my own tracker and look this to eleven and Roger Green came down he was at the time I just finished working evil and he was working for radical and I was a big Fan of evil and reading you know obviously much sports well magazines and awesome yeah and I went over to Rajini said we thought that racing and he said well not really because I have no idea how you get into it. I'm he said what we can get you in the car. You know do some testing and if you like it we can get you your odds taste and there's a novice racy restarting next year run. We'd love to put in a car for that so l.. O. Spiraled from from that documentary by calling so yeah at that point. I think it was protesting Nandi Sunday. They said well you know if you keep on this you could lemond achievable goal because you can go there as a nominal driver and I just dismissed I ever you know stick with the S._R.. Wanted to start off with and then it was in two thousand fifteen when I was working with Nissan honest part their Olympic partnership and they said you know while the cat you see what you're like in the car and when they'd be detached they said well. Let's meet the the end goal lemond three years to get there and they were amazing bringing through gamers through to Ah the highest level professional drivers so they had a chance. I had a chance to piggyback that Program G._T.. Academy and it was yeah just this pipedream initially and as time went on progress through the ranks British G._T.. A European Lamont series and then it was you know we're going to Lemond next year and that was when I got the phone call to say so. We've got the team when we got the car. It was suddenly dawned on me. I'm going to do this this is this is going to be me there so yeah really really exciting eating and obviously deal very used to walk into stadiums and performing in front of tens of thousands of people you knew about memorial fan of it and things like that but I think a lot of drivers even professional race drivers raced from the age of sex. I'm still find amazing when you arrive enormity of and it's not much places the whole week resign even with one hundred percent and it was the best thing I did was good there the year before the Allied Allen P. Three cars to test on the official test which they hadn't before so I got to drive absolutely atrocious day that was just rained on stop the whole time but to get on the track rain magnetic but it was it was before you can get their driving and then you see I sign for Lemond and use only go wow on the road signs. Just it's just so many things that bring the emotion and just <hes> the romance to behind the event and you get there and then you recognize isolate things you've seen on T._v.. And being before as a fun to watch two or three times before and to be arriving there with of Youtube actually getting in the car and getting on the track is very different feeling to arrive in there as a fun but yeah I remember going I and just pulling out the pit lane an even as a cable <unk> electric set with Dunlop Bridge and all the things that you I'm GonNa under the bridge the first time but for me it was heading straight the first time and you're sitting there pinned flat the floor just thinking here we go this is a we're on on the Mona Straight and then before you know what you see these huge lights behind you and smart Weber in N._l._p.. One might say but yeah it was everything about Lemond with special and you know there were so many stages to as well it wasn't the novelty wears off the for me. One of the best points was the nighttime stint the first nights when tight on and you pull out the pits in the dark and head down that was just the one of the highlights with I think in and this is one of the moments of of my life. This is something I'll always remember what privileges well because so many people want to do not not just your average fan who goes there and I wonder what we like to be the track but you know really high level professional drivers who've dedicate life this profession and they still have the opportunity to do it so here's me some dumpty that used to ride bikes. You know getting this chance to announce P TWO-CAR. I didn't I want to do the whole opportunity justice and not just turn up and take it lightly so yeah for all people that were wanting to be would love to be in my shoes. I wanted to do the best job a kid and what what was the kind of from when you first stepped into call in terms of the S._R.. One incident <hes> race capacity three to Lamar on things that you've done since what's been the feedback like from the motorsport community. Was it difficult to start with. No I think they I was really warmly welcomed. I think I genuinely think that the humidity love it when people so come in from other areas because it reaches a wider audience and people will take an interest in sport that maybe hadn't before an appreciate Iheart is an amazing is and you know that most people if they're not into motor sport there'll be aware of winter sport through one every became through the summer. They'll see one of the tally on those C._d.'s on board shorts of just the steering wheel and then turn in the cog was that way an straight and turn anything. I drive a car but day to the kids up at school I I can drive so I could pretty much do it. Loose Allenton does and they have no no concept of of just the U._N.. says the skill that the cars on the you know whether it's a formula one car or K. TRIMs or wherever any kind of championship in between between every drivers pushing to limit on every part of the circuit and it's such a such a challenge in so exciting and I think T._v. doesn't ever quite do it justice and so if you can spread the word and talk to people think well. He seems quite passionate about they. It must be quite exciting then hopefully you're ding ding a very small job to to to suspend the word and what we were talking about your your key races a minute a maximum effort a twenty four hour race in cars a hugely different thing and I suppose this sound would have kind of got you prepared for that was renting. You found surprising in that process in terms of the tonight I think I am it was trying to break into segment so understanding that you don't think about it as a twenty four ratio. Does she think right. Okay I'M GONNA do we're starting the double stint at five o'clock and then you're going to be back in the car. Eleven o'clock or you know Nazi triple stint therefore that's going to be roughly X. number of laps <hes> during that time you it is never thinking too far ahead. You never thinking only in the conference five minutes and I'm just absolutely capacity here. I can deal with this. It's so intense you know you just think about your almost like a heartless race. You don't think about right hardly just gone over or the one five or six Dane. The Lane is just what's next what might do next over this onto next. One is just like a conveyor belt one by one minute by minute lap-by-lap and then before you know what you get the coal box. There's lot and you're coming in in the past Lincoln. I you know a two and a half hour stint can just go at that which which seems crazy but the key to it I guess is relaxing at the point that you can relax on Lamont. She probably less physical circuit than than many for a twenty four hour as you've got these. It's almost like flurries of activity and recover and then flow activity and recover but in that time you have to keep an eye on all the different dials and make sure everything's operating oak in the car you got to communicate with your your engineer. You gotta be super aware about what's happening range because we've seen so many accents along with the huge speed differentials between the the categories so when you're going along at night or even the daytime and you see the the big bright white light so the P. One coming up on blinding because he can't even even liquor soon as you see your marriage light up you don't look in the mirror the road ahead lights up. See No the coming and you hold your line. It's just like you can almost shut your eyes and hold your breath but the worst moment for me. The first time was when I assumed it it was just too. I could see there was it was more than once lights. Though there's two coming up behind an women pass and the second one possibly almost came back on the race in line and there was a third and it was just and then I thought that was it wasn't close intimidating Naci meet the move but it was close enough for me. I was about that move so I was a great lesson of right. You do not do that until you're one hundred percent sure <hes> you know. It's just doesn't bear thinking about 'em if you get it wrong there apart from the else imagine being the person that ended the hopes of one of the porsches are the eighties or those yeah exactly so he didn't. I didn't WanNa be that Guy <hes> so it was yeah. I guess these don't think too far ahead you think about one lap time one one breaking point at time and then before you know what you're you're called in Santa Your stint and do you have an engineer on the radio saying the league battles coming up behind you feedback on on a on a bicycle you absolutely did not some some engineers and some teams are better than others <hes> some communicate really well and even into simplicity of them on the radio the work that way so you had sections of the track where you could communicate and sections where you couldn't well yeah they had all sorts of problems and so in my first stint I think on the second lot coming into the Malzahn corner at the end of the straight and I looked up and I really bad luck up in the front right really bad flat spot to the point where you let's see the windscreen vibration so badly and I'm thinking and every time you get breaking point it locks up on the same bit makes it worse worse on your just paranoid I was going to go through the canvas and is going to get puncture and it was you know going to be off the star of the race so I said we got really bad. I've gotta come in but I had to wait to became back into the zone that got you communicate and the engineer was saying well. If the tires up you have to wait and see you know where we're discussing it turns out they didn't have any tires tires way to go bill and I watched the documentary afterwards where the documentary processing them on and this is comedy scene where you got the head chief mechanic and the head engineer shutting each other. We haven't got any ties what Colin's we should. I'm just changed one tire. They do that in formula. No don't do well. I'm coming when you push the butts and if they're talking then you can't talk you basically push the button to talk and you can hear that they're discussing by force. I couldn't say I might coming in. It was just really stressful. I didn't it was the worst worst possible start eventually came in on the four tires and they were cold on the pit lane off the limits are dying on the car steps. They'd baseness an N.. T. seconds life. You're tired of cold careful as I yeah thank you that so they call from there but that was that was a quest start to my first experience L. Ammonia about as far so I I would have had a very similar experience but my only twenty four hours to C._V.. One it's awesome awesome <hes> and <hes> so really know inside a tool into the more but at the same time same thing is. I don't think it matters what the cars division is. The same the same camaraderie the same experiences buildup and finish the race year we interested I went to bed at eleven and I was supposed to be back in the car through five six in the morning but I got waking up at one of the morning seeping in a ten in the paddock because one of the drivers can nice she see at night and the rain which only became apparent as one of the moment back in the call but his great washing sunrise just the something about twenty five cents is very very magical. Does did you get emotional the end you cross the line. Did you feel you something. I think yeah I did but sinn. T._V.'s are no. They've got lots of fans. The WINNINGTON Straits Nelson is is very very laws and email and you can look over to forgive him away says it's a different former racing and but it was it was a wonderful experience and to get through it was was incredible ready ready <hes> so it's kind of phosphoric bit to doing now. You've you've done so much in my sports. It's kind of it's quite amazing. I she's just really and six short years <hes>. Have you tested a formula you call 'em I just yeah. I don't think tested a couple of laps at Rome this year so I'm doing a series of basically it's me going. I'm going to try and different forms of motor sport. <hes> it's a great way to do. I get a chance to drive all these cars. I really WANNA drive. We could pretend they're making making a real but yeah basically I go in there so it's there's <unk> am worldwide cross formula e monster trucks which was insane <hes> did some drifting Ding Gymkhana and Porsche supercup and so all these different forms meeting if people who have the best jobs the world drivers and trying to cars so yeah the rally that the tricky thing is that you you have maybe one test they in some cases not no preparation you go straight ten and you just do it so you've got a really learn quickly quickly and on your feet but you know GonNa Complain when you get the chance to drive I did one test at Pembrey and then I was in the top pain in the supercar category at the world rally cross against Tim Johansen Kevin Hansson Marcus Gronholm son you know these the best guys in the world and and you're sitting in the start line Bernard before you get up there handbrake on six hundred horsepower binds enough limiter right five we connected a sixty looking across one and it was yeah that was I think the rallycross experience has got to be up there with anything. I've done sport. It was absolutely brilliant such a warm friendly paddock as well. I mean everywhere more sports always finally but these guys were just really glad to have someone in. We're interested in what was doing. Can you know yeah the team with Bennett's team and they were fantastic too so yeah. It was a great experience you very humble man for sort of people listening in watching as those supercop which is is widely regarded as one of the most competitive mcquay Quat Niche Championship we are doing you performed really well. Thank you all that was yeah. It was again split the Christmas because he last year and you know he said like may you're going to be at the back end things. Don't worry about it tough that guy you know these are pro drivers. The cars are tricky tricky things Rondo traction and it's all about the breaking and it's easy to lock up so you kind of well. He's up me a little bit the star but it was it was great because you go in there with very low expectations and they have the V._i._p.. Car they have different guests in usually once a year to drive it and it was there was a great team really professional out of test at Silverstone and I was about four seconds off the pace and then by Qualley verson at the race. I was <hes> two point seven poll so I was delighted without you know for two minute. Lop Up is more than happy with that and yeah I think finished five or six guys so I wasn't last but it was more just getting rained and driving relatively well for my standard not making any mistakes. That was the key thing I didn't WANNA BE SPINNING OFF and causing a Red Flag British exactly when you go stuns most people remember for the Hebei was at Goodwood so the all years this is Mike again you know so I didn't WanNa stupid so it was just about trying to be am as clinical and cleaning up a race which which I dated for me so I think he meant you described as another sort of bucket list item text and you've done them all to all these amazing. He thinks you're looking for this. Series are the things that you haven't done that. You want to do or the more I'd I'd love to go back to the moment because you learn so much and you feel that you barely scratched the surface I thought might have done an antique box and then I can move on but it really I call the Pug we learn so much that you want to play all the things that you learn that experience but top of them on Bathurst twelve hour nurburgring twenty four am. I'd love to do some more rally cross. I mean that was just a taster for that really got me. <hes> I guess just any opportunity and the key thing that I've learned that we can that was racing <hes> SPA in the British G._T.. In a Mustang G._T.. Four Multi Mata top level pro team really the amazing guys on at the same time most in the kitchen for twenty championship on basic jumping at one car into the next and you would assume that while you know you got the these you know top level teams and then you've got this of thirty grand a year championship which is just club level racing experiences just as intense and justice fun in the case is in G._T.'s so key thing is it doesn't matter what level you're racing talking about. The T._V.'s a is pretty intense when you're in a battle and you're if you're fighting for the lead bump drafting down by it doesn't matter what you do you know. I think that you know as long as you've got Tim. People around you care by your own it together and you're having fun. You can get so much motorsport any level so it's not just about the big ones of course love to do all these iconic races but I'm just any opportunities. I'm doing the six our salon later on this year. I'm going to port in a couple of races. Are there of spa bothers weekend again in a nine eleven to I._R._S.. Club sport which is a life so yeah. I'm I'm very lucky. I get these opportunities and so when I get them you want to do them just so just quickly. Tell I'm a little bit about the Mustang because it's a bit different Yep quite new and you'll take a few races in that. We just got to racist so I had Donnington last month and then SPA last weekend. It's Shitty four is I guess the strength of the Mustang Jiang Arts got really good high-speed Arabs to this amid medium and high-speed corners. It's very stable you committee commit. It's really good traction. The slower corners straight-line pace as good as something other cars so we struggled at spa because of that and the brakes is not quite as is Yukon Chuck quite as late as some other cars heavy car but we did really well donate one at Donnington two cars. It was the G._T.. Four silver silver on the G._T.. Four pro-am on the voice over silver they won their category and they're leaving the championship UPI chip and myself and Billie Johnson won the program which was a big surprise <hes> and then last weekend arrays with Andy Prio and his son said was racing in the silver silver car and with Scott Maxwell. I'm we're both six in our relative classes. It is a bit tougher. We weren't quite up there with the cars and the straight line but just so much fun you know it really is is a great car to drive great team and I learned a lot from Andy but it was it was nice to be there that we can because it's the first Andy and said addressed side-by-side ever versus to help your son what Blake for caloms five just couldn't imagine if he'd been expensive so much cheaper now sort of before we finish anyone who follows you on twitter tha we'll still one of the I suppose it's two ways to do social media <hes> as if you're if you're one nine and that's to basically ignored most people and keep tweeting but you'll really attractive and a lot of that is with Hoy bikes which is a relatively new it well as a new brandeis. Yes we set up. I started doing well whenever I guess when I retired question was what next and I had to have things as passionate about to get my teeth into and we get focused on so I decided to pick a number of things to do rather than just one thing like Cycling Day so what sport was one but decided on business one brand of bike and to start ranging started out with a couple of adult bikes and then expanded from their start the kids range and the the adult bikes to Cape but the kids bikes have been so really well received an we've gone relatively high high end very lightweight components lightweight frames to meet the bikes as easy for the kids to write as possible and I guess becoming dot as well ego through this phase of just the one zero senior kids learn to the bike and so much fun at Reignites Your Passion for for cycling so yeah we do you know anyone that's Hellebuyck there. If they're posting pictures of the kids site writing you know I'll if they sent me a message message back and it's just great to see because you see the smiles thousand faces when the right they're not I realize that there aren't holding them under the side of that she palin by themselves and that moment of freedom and excitement when you're pedaling on your own and you and you got your with with your children. You've got your own test riders perfect perfect well exactly how they got free BICA complete bell but yeah it's like even callum Tacoma's born prematurely he was to pines when he was born he was eleven weeks early really tough upstart and he's always been he's been on the catching up since day one but physically as you know as big are bigger than mates in nursery and developmentally as well he's caught up but he's always been a little bit. I guess shy on a bit more her and reserved and he doesn't throw themselves into things and certainly news physical activities always a bit on the back foot but is by he's a seems to pick up the APP see loves it and we went on holidays Australia The stock the year we went down to the beach and as a bike path that went all wheel on the beach just from miles and miles of kilometer. There's a little play park and we just went eight one day so I was walking the problem with chloe and mean cow himself in the bikes I mean we just still swings Kalam as well. He just me we'd go on from place to place we're going on within five Cape and five ten KS and he's only four. I'm not mad. Parents can cracking the whip till he just absolutely loved it so it's just it's wonderful to see kids enjoy themselves and when you've created it when you've designed signed the bikes and and you know you've had a big part of it and you see them up in front of them. It's it's a cool thing. Well wonderful not on Chris. Thank you so much for your time after hearing just how much racing doing it's amazing that you've spat an hour of your time. I'm thank you so much it's been.

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Part 2: Travis Pastrana on Live Stunts, Evel Knievel, and Tony Hawk, plus Good Sports (ACS July 3)

The Adam Carolla Show

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Part 2: Travis Pastrana on Live Stunts, Evel Knievel, and Tony Hawk, plus Good Sports (ACS July 3)

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I'm a big fan of years. because. I like people that have a good relationship with fear and I. Think you have a very possibly to healthy relationship with fear, but I'm worried that a lot of people around me are freaking out because of this whole pandemic and I don't really care, but I think. I have a good relationship with fear. I'm guessing you're not freaked out about covid nineteen, either because of your relationship with fear, but. You tell me. Life is a calculated risk and definitely my mother-in-law. She was out here. win everything. Stops the world. Stop if you will definitely do my best to. Try, to be proactive in washing hands and everything like that, but at the same time it's. It's tough being the touring and like you know. You'll live action sport as the world to a stop the live action. Sport is definitely come to a stop Even as we're starting to get going again, I mean I got a rally race this next week, but my number. One mechanic is from England and my co is also from Europe. So I'll be doing that without those guys, so it's a you know I. Have faith that the the powers that be are smarter than I. Am Jealous. What's going on but I? Definitely when it's your time, it's your time. Does. Rally racing seem relatively calm and what easy compared to all the stuff. You're doing on two wheels. No actually Kinda contrary I think racing You push yourself the hardest so rally. There's no safer barriers you could be going. Hundred fifty an hour with a two hundred foot cliff on your outside in the snow at night while training. You know so there's there's a lot of factors. It's of making the best of the worst. If you will like even Nascar car. You're not necessarily worried about dying per se, but still you have to be so spot on precise that the nerves journal and actually take over more to trying to do the best that you can as opposed to worrying about livelihood I guess. You Wind so for you. You have the daredevils gene I guess I'll just call the gene I had it to the kids. It shows itself early because you have thoughts like Hey, man! If we got up on the roof, I think we could clear the patio. Make it into the pool. If we got a running start and jumped off the roof I think we could hit the deep end of the pool. We'd have to clear some of the Patio I. But you start having those thoughts at a early age start. A bike. You want to jump the bike do. Is that how you started? All without a doubt, so my dad, he's one of six brothers. I and family, and my my grandfather was golden glove boxer. They were all Division One sports. My uncle actually played quarterback for Denver Broncos for a couple of years, so all my cousins were more athletic stronger than was got. beat up all the time as a kid realized that I was super durable, which worked out great, and that also I needed a motor because my legs were as strong as my peers so at least my my family, so at the end of the day, I I realize that. That when most people panicked That's when I came alive I. Felt like when the world was perfect, I was just ordered and not as good, but when you put everything on the line with most people of back down, that's when my mind started working. Nestle I started getting excited. Actually engaging so I feel like a lot of context general like if you can slow down, was going on around you when things hit the fan. That's a that's a quality you need I mean even a quarterback. Look at football. He's got so much coming at them. He knows we've makes mistakes. Pummel. You have to make those decisions on apply. Yeah. Being able to slow things down. That's and being able to slow yourself down like when you get strapped into the car and. You sit in the car for long periods of time you know oftentimes before the race or after, but you spend a lot of time in a six way harness with a Hans device on everything, all strapped in net up in the window, and you're sitting in a roll cage, and you could kind of a lot of people would freak out like a lot. Lot of people would feel claustrophobic back like they couldn't breathe or something like that, but you probably get into some I don't know when a computer goes to a sleep mode or something where he can just kind of goes zen because I've I've done a lot of car racing, and I kind of I know what that feeling is of just of being almost. It's not like you're sleepy, but it's almost like you've turned your senses off because you're. You're strapped in. Your almost overwhelmed. How much how much you're strapped in! Yeah No, it's awesome every time I see you. You get in the car and everything and. Definitely, it's a different experience. Is something that a lot of people don't like my family and myself I live for those moments. When everything's on the line and you know, that's the difference between now. I'm realizing more and more so. With Kobe and everything we've be doing a lot of online racing at it takes. Everyone put them on a completely even playing field when you do in Sim racing. Because there's no, there's at journal and there's no. There's no consequence so I feel like the world when there's a consequence like steak rally. For example, there's two hundred foot cliff on the outside. You know that if you hold it wide open, you'll probably not go off. Off that cliff, but most people will back down a little more just because of the clip. Not because they don't think that they can stay inside of that at the fast, they can go, so it's making making those commitments and understanding what your ability level is not being crazy, but knowing what you're capable of and sticking with that so when you're in a car, you have to understand. It's tough now with all the safety. Because actually made it more difficult. More crashes probably happened because like you said you're in strapped in this car, usually thirty degrees warmer than outside, so if you're no NASCAR is a hundred degrees outside Daytona Fourth of July weekend. It's one hundred twenty eight hundred thirty degrees in the car. So you're sitting in Donna. You're strapped in your a suit and it's basically a sweat suit. You can't move your neck. You can't move anything you're going. Four wide, a two hundred miles an hour into a corner, and you can't see the car on either side yet, and you can't see over the the tailgate of the car in front of you, and it's like that that moment you can take a deep breath, and you're like you look for the there's. There's no sign and as soon as you see that you can't tell when the corners coming, you just turn the wheel and everyone's GonNa. Do the same thing, and if anyone makes a mistake, that's when it gets intense, because now all sudden everyone's fumbling. No one you're listening to your spotter so for me like the more stimulus. There is the more exciting World Council. So Travis for me watching you do a backflip rooftop to rooftop a couple buildings in l., A. Maybe eight or ten stories off the ground, although it's academic, if it's three stories or twenty five stores, you don't make you know make it. But that is one of the hairless. There's two Super Harry things I've seen and I've been around since evil knievel of you doing the backflip rooftop to roof top was completely and utterly insane, and whoever the fellow was, who jumped the bike in Vegas and landed on top of Ratto arche triumph new years, no limits that was awesome Darius. Coming back down. What's the hairiest part wasn't going up? It was coming down. That seemed totally insane to me. That's totally insane to you. Yeah maddow's one hundred percent because they look. If you're going up, you can usually get out of things and you're not falling as far going down if he goes too far. When she went a little too far, his actually thumb bank completely around back. where she went straight a surgery after that he was able to pull it off. The wrist is so high but like. Jumped out of the plane without a parachute, my friend met me on the way down. You do the thing roof to roof, but if you make a mistake, it's going to really suck anyway so for me. Adding what you're jumping over kind of like. They say the fawns jumping the shark like yeah, it really doesn't matter what your clearing like we hide. You're playing across lakes and rivers and How deep wasn't like I? Don't know it only you're only tires only going down two inches so. For me, I've always been able to kind of take that away. Look if you come up short on a hundred foot jump, you're GONNA. Break your both your risk. The best, so does it really matter. This tends story drop. Yeah, I mean YOU'RE GONNA! Break, both you risk. You'RE GONNA fall for a few seconds. Get A die, so so I understand that, but there's always risk, and if you know you do it and you can do it, do you? When you're doing something like that ten story rooftop-to-rooftop. Far Apart were the takeoff and the landing ramp. So that was the part that made it difficult because your motorcycle can go approximately eight feet in second year I'm not exactly sure what the speeds are all matt, but the roof when we got there. It was on an incline, so it was eight degrees inclined so degree prefer. Take off eight degrees steeper on the other side for landing just for for runoff I guess yeah for drainage right. Right so when I got there. Thinking I gotta hit this second year. Now I realized that all the training that I did had absolutely no effect are no bearing on how fast ad hit that jump so? That made that more difficult because now up like all the way to the take off ramp, which if you hit neutral or miss your shift? You can't stop in time after that round and if you miss it, then you don't have the speed to make it so so the shift actually made it very difficult. So. Did you take off in second gear or third gear? So took off their third year. As, you can see I pulled so I figure if you're going to trash, you might as well it's GonNa hurt. Anyway might as well make it look good, so did a backflip with what they call it back on that one, but it was steeper than the takeoffs I normally take off on, so I was over rotating and lucky. I didn't blow off the back probably shot right up to the other building. Did so if you're gonNA hit a ramp like that in second gear, then you would start in second gear. That is correct. As you know, you can with the dirt bike, you can usually start fairly good in second honestly with the new four fifties. If this was a little bit more modern, we probably could done the whole thing in third year and they have a lot of work. Because they're thumpers, are we talking about thumpers? Is the cost thumpers right? It's all. For Sound. They always dumped you into the ground when they misfired, but now now they're better for sharks, right? So God I had a Honda. I, had a Honda to fifty elsinore. I'd yeah. I had a red racer. I had a red racer, Honda the first kind of real dedicated sort of factory motocross bike was a Honda had a plastic tank when they all have metal tanks, it had it had twin shocks in the back, but they would lay him down sort of not fond of the drum brake in the front, but a Honda. Elsinore to fifty read race Max. There's a picture of me doing a whealy in the backyard of a House I rented in north. Hollywood, on that Honda Elsinore do fifty. Red Racer, so I have no idea how happy this makes you right now. I'M GONNA. Show you a picture me doing a wheeling. The backyard of my North Hollywood rented house, and that thing and I'll show you a picture me jump in my bmx bike when I was ten to in my front yard of. that. Was the honestly that the start of the Honda era that was the beginning of when it used to be when men were men and bikes were crap and that hell. Events, this is a real machine. This is closest thing to the modern day bike we. We had so yeah. I remember the thing I remember very clearly and again. I'm I'm older than you, but. The. Back before there was mono shocks and disc brakes right, so the front of this thing had a drum brake, and the drum had a little fork that came off the hub, and it grabbed the cable where you could adjust the tension on the break, and then work the front brake, but the little folks broke off, and I could never well them back on, or fix it or do anything so I never had a front brake and we used to. To do a Lotta Hill climbing and come back down, and you gotta come back down, and coming back down with no use of the front brake means just lockup the rare and fuck and hang on that going to go flying down at that hill, but yeah you think you don't WanNa grab the front brake hard, but if you have no front brake, and you're going down that hill and your whole break balanced like everything is just shifted forward. It's Harry. Yeah, that's that's. Days on any Sunday type stuff with Malcolm Smith coming back. Down the hill. Yeah there's a picture. Max Me jumping that thing in the desert on top of some hill or something to, but anyway look I don't I don't do one hundred of what Travis does, but what I'm saying is I do understand that feeling of being on a bike and getting airborne and in a weird way. I appreciate what you do on their am on my bmx bike when I'm eleven. I appreciate love that ramp. Sorry to interrupt with. The ramp is looking at its rocks. It's two by fours cut plywood kickoff labels like duct tape to the I mean that's that is a very very genius. Really. We did not have a lot of technology back then in north, Hollywood in the seventies, but I, so I feel like so I totally understand what it's like to get on a to fifty and get airborne, and that's why doing a somersault or twin double backflip. Feels or anything else you do on that bike I apprec- I think I appreciate it more than someone who's never been on a bike and never been in the air on a bike. I I have that much more respect for it. It's really funny. When we take people out in cars and driving, and you take someone out that you'd think would be really scared, but they have no real concept of speed, or when you should break, you take someone up. It's a pretty good driver, and you put passenger in a rally car with a rally cross car, maybe with seven hundred horsepower zero to sixty in one point eight seconds, and you're coming up on the tree line, and over a crest fully sideways, and those people know that they would hit the brakes a long time before you're hitting the brakes with the. Technology, we have on the all wheel drive. It's the people that understand. Their immediate danger that are actually more scared than the people that have experienced it, so it's awesome to hear that you've you've gone through all the same childhood experiences. We have well eight. She had a thousand times and I learned kind of respect. What guys like you do, but also kind of learned to respect the pavement? You know like like you gotTa. Have a relationship. I wanted to have fun but I. Didn't WanNa hit the pavement as many times as I did, but. You you had that gene and that's where you were growing up. And at what age did you start to sort of think? Maybe there's a path here. Maybe there's a way I can get paid to do this. You know the money never really thought about it to be honest. I mean every kid you want to be an astronaut or firefighter. Bull rider I always wanted to be a dirt bike racer and you know we hit channel eleven twelve thirteen most kids realities kind of set in For my parents. They were hoping that real he would sit in, but it was kicked me in school with good grades gave him some character dangle, or if you will and. Basically. Are My, uncles. My Dad had a harley he sold that family had a boat. You sold that ended up to mortgage on the house. My uncles, who all work family construction were basically taking pay cuts to pay for the fuel to give you the races and My Dad said hey look your uncle. Allen was greatest. Athlete has come out of a maps, his quarterback for broncos and he's still works community college now a coach. Lacrosse in football. He teaches health class up there and you're never gonNA. Make a living doing what you love, but every day you give it everything you. Can you chase you? You love what you do. Our whole family will support you in any way that we can so for me every single day. That I've been able to do what I love to do I just. Just tried to go until the the wheels fall off so as never about the money I made some horrible business decisions because I want to chase my heart and I believe that's why I'm still in the sport now and still being able to make a living. Doing love to do is because I always went with what I was passionate about not necessarily. What was the best? Because the other day making a living at a hobby and that's something that. You have to work really hard at making living at a hobby. It doesn't make a lot of sense, but there's so many people that want to do it. You know you'd better be passionate about is willing to spend every second. You'll say what do you do in your off time I ride. Their bikes drive cars. What did for Blood Roger Bikes and cars? What do you? What do you do? So the process of coming up with. A stunt. The process. Do people come to you on your team, do you? Sort of think about it, and then go to them rooftop-to-rooftop or jumping out of an airplane with no parachute. What's the Genesis of the ideas? How does it work? Everything's a little unique for us. We decided very quickly when the jackass guys helped us get the MTV show that. If you're going to come up with an idea, you have to be at least willing to try that idea. I, because Knoxville is always like. Let's get a bowl like what why he's like. It's crates a win. Win I'm like No. If the bull doesn't hit, anyone we, we won't Eric, because it's not good enough and if the ball hits us, we're getting hit by a bull. That is a lose lose. Understanding of that so. For us. It's about Ashley People say. Oh, you push the guys like no guys that want to do stuff that they go everywhere in the world they ask everyone for for help to to learn a new trick or do something they see if they wanna do it. No matter where you are in the world if it's action sports in, it's big and you WanNa. WanNa? Do it safely possible and you want people that can help you. You come to nights circus and you say okay I want to do a quadruple back. FLIP ONTO BMX bike. We say instead of saying no shit, okay, what's your abilities? Have you done three? How can you over rotate? What are the ramp angles? How high do you have to go and? Build your hips like no, we riders. We Walter own stuff. We built our own stuff. You know so many parents are always come in. San, O, our kids Would you guys and most these guys? Jiaxuan only at ever triple back, flip a dirt bike. He worked in the mines. Soon as he was out of high school, a trade even finish high school went in, and Bazeley paid for his own way built his own ramp welded. It took it to the desert. Learn how to backflip while I'm not recommending that route the guys that make any sports. Put their heart and soul into it, and there's no amount of money worth putting your life on the line. But these stunts come not from someone director anything they come directly from the writers. Because there's nothing that I could ever ask someone hey, do you think you could try this That's putting their life on the line now, so if they're gonNA put life alliance got their idea and the same for you. Yeah I mean there's you know there's a lot ideas that come through, and for instance history channel came to with the evil knievel concept. Not the. Actually the concept he said, can you guys do a stunt for us? And they said it has to be something with history and one of the guys Dave Matteis. The back of the room raises handy. Said Bruma someone history. something. That's going to show. Our DAD'S GENERATION! Where Action Sports are where stuntman have gone and action sports and show the scooter generation where stunt came from with evil knievel jumping cars in showmanship. He's like we have a chance to bring three generations together. A and really give tribute to kind of the man that started it all so with that I raised my hand after I, told my wife literally like a week before I'm not GonNa do anything stupid anymore. I'm going to tone it down honey I promise, and then that came up I was like well. If, we have a chance to aid Caesar's Felton which we called up and they said yes. Right away on like well, Kip. What you ask for just like good. and. This is going to be an opportunity to give tribute I'm like I. Don't care if it's not that it's GonNa be raining. Those raining like overheats whatever happens crashed the first jump I'm like it has to be someone that that understands what evil was about and that it was about showmanship and the whole the building this thing up and even if everything goes wrong, you always said you're not a bit Elliott until you failed to. To get back up on like that person that does this. If everything goes wrong and crash out that jump unless they're dead, they better get back on that bike and do the next jump so for me. That was an awesome opportunity. Luckily, everything went well, but just to to give tribute to kind of bring those generations together, and actually ended up the number one show on cable TV for the year so for me, that was. A huge honor and kind of like everything else it might show it starts from a small idea, and with everyone involved usually grows to whatever it ends up. As I recall and I interviewed evil knievel shortly before he passed away. And it was funny evils. Set in his ways kind of a tough guy and certain guys. It's funny you're. You're not wired this way, but there certain guys when you start talking to them about their business, they don't. They don't like it you. They go, not I'll let me tell you. It's gone, and I'm saying to him. Evil Wha what the guys doing today is pretty amazing, but they have a lot of evil in their suspension. You, run a Harley with a steel tank, and about two and a half inches of travel, meaning the distance between the back fender and the top of the top of the rear tire. You just didn't have the suspension. Have the materials you know. and. He's like what are you talking about? That Harley was the finest motorcycle ever built and I know I know, but I'm saying the shit you were trying to do. Essentially a street bike is insane. You know he's like that was a great bike and I was like all right trying to compliment you, but I get it you as I. Recall had to do the evil knievel stunts on a bike that sort of mered or closely mirrored evils, bike, and not the High Falutin kind of double backflip. To Fifty S, you're used to writing that a true statement. That is one hundred percent true and everyone was like. What did you modify? I'm like look all we did was. We added extra material to the back because like evil everytime I landed. The bikes aren't meant to fly. You know they're great bikes for flat tracking and everything I think that that whole movement of the odor bike with lot of worst hours coming back in the racing and everything. Just fun racing. On kind of older. Technology if you will. But obviously the motors are better the ramps. He had a web trip and the one thing that we did differently. I wanted to make sure that I wasn't bouncing. Going off the lip evil man. It didn't matter if he knew it was gonNA make it or wasn't gonNA, make it how bad the ramp was. How slow the bike was! He just went and that's what people came to see. They came to see. This guy that he said he was going GonNa do something. He was gonNA. Do it live vicariously through this man that was seemingly fearless and such a showman, always on the show so for me, I wanted to give tribute to the show and man. I've never jumped in high heeled boots before I'll. Warren High Heel boots before, but I had a leather suit. It was a hundred and ten degrees in Vegas I had high heeled boot. Now. Suspension travel and Oh Man. It was A. Yeah I mean evil. That's the other thing it's like. Evil was wearing beadle. Go go boots. On? On. I mean it's insane what he did with what what he did it. How he did it and if you watch his initial crash. On. Caesar's Palace. His laming ramp looks like a like a bunch of. Bunch. Trip like four by eight or something like put together and leaned over van like I mean he had no landing ramp store like I don't even know how. He thought he was going to hit those landing ramps, and you said wedge versus something that was more progressive or something. Something like that explain that. So he took off on a take off, that was between fifteen and twenty degrees steep, but it went from zero degrees to fifteen degrees. There was no transition so when you hit that the With no suspension at seventy eighty ninety miles an hour. It compresses like you're hitting. A wall and bounces will evil. His takeoff was only like five feet wide as landing was maybe. One wide eight flip sheet of plywood, and you're thinking man if you're going up bouncing and sideways, how like you better have that absolutely perfect? And he saw one of the guys that try to jump. Caesar's actually missed the landing just mostly because the ramps just weren't that good, so yes, everyone's like. Oh, you broke evils. Record I'm like no. We modernized it like basically. We're tribute to him, but he would have wanted to go as far as he could push it, so do we go further? Yep, but. We went further because we have the technology to make it easier to go. Eagles furthest jump only one hundred thirty feet at fourteen years old I jumped over two hundred, but the technology and the information. Once you see someone, do it. It becomes so much easier so for me to go out. There I think the longest jump. That day was the the Greyhound bus jump, which was one hundred eighty feet. On a bike with no suspension. It's difficult, but we'd already been jumping a car over two hundred and fifty feet, which has very limited suspension as well so we know a lot more about how things fly, and between Red Bull nitro circus. We got a really good idea of all the data on weights and physics and stuff. That evil didn't have access to. Yeah. It's interesting you talk about a sort of wedge ramp so like he'd goes straight ahead and then he'd hit the ramp and the ramp. Just sort of you bottom out as you hit the ramp because it wasn't progressive, you didn't. It's like imagine. You know you can skate a pool because one walls vertical and the bottoms flat, and then it transitions, and that's how you skateboard a pool, but what if the wall just met the bottom? You know what I mean like how? How would that I? Would that work and I never really thought about that? I always looked at his. Landing Ramps and I was like God. That doesn't seem like a whole lot of. With their technology. There so. For you, and is there anything you're thinking about is is there? A holy grail of stunts. Is there something? You been thinking about trying and and haven't tried yet, and then I'll back that out to when you are thinking the first time you think about doing a double back flip. At X Games Once that seed gets planted in your head. This is just stay there until you pull this thing off. Now. This is not a great mentality, maybe but I. Feel like if you know something is possible. Especially being where action sports is is my livelihood like it's almost my job to to see it. Come to fruition whether it's myself or now as I'm getting older. It's helping somebody else. learn from mistakes. work on the ramp technology in the radiuses heights from there. But for me. The hardest trick that I ever did took me I did the first time on a trampoline double backflip with the full twist, which is call a half in half out basically. Back of eighty front flip one eighty. And I did that back in in ninety, nine or two thousand first time in a foam pit on a bicycle in two thousand three. Landed on a mountain bike for the first time in two, thousand fourteen, and then two years ago in two thousand. Seventeen, I was able to landed on the jerk like. so that was the holy grail for me and the last thing that I felt I needed to do and my wife was so upset. She's like look. You're out here. You're filming for a video project that you're definitely GONNA lose money, and you've already spent so much time figuring out, and you could possibly die like what you're going. You know seventy five feet. In the air to flips and a full twists with the sturt bike. Why and I said because I've spent my whole life, wondering if it's possible and I have to know I have to at least give it a give it a hundred and ten percent effort and see what went wrong. What could have gone right and by fate or dumb? Luck whatever you WANNA call. It was able to ride out of that. You know no one's still. To this day, which is pretty cool for me? Being Hal like I was kind of already retired if you will at that point. But, that's what it is like you said. If you know, something can be done. So, if you had X. Games, two thousand six kind of what I'm known, the most for live TV staple center sold out crowd all on their feet. Everyone was heard about this trick that it's time seemed impossible and everyone thought if he misses it, he's GonNa die! My Mom's crying on the side. Everyone's on their feet. Everyone's Walla different sports to their in time seem to slow down. It's GonNa work, but what people don't know. I was trying to switch over to cars at the time and I'm sitting second to Colin McRae. Who is a rally legend world champion? He comes over to the US now. US I think. We got the best drivers on earth with NASCAR and INDYCAR. But it's not taking seriously between world. Guys with F. wanted everything. They just don't see the technical, but those guys are They're amazing. Drivers but so Colin comes over sitting second. That's where I WANNA go with my future and here I am sitting third in this event for best trick, so already have a medal i. don't even take my last run, and there's nothing really the gate. I mean I can win this event a couple thousand dollars rate, but I have a chance to to beat or at. At least race, and finished recall McRae and into rally cars, and that was my first time I was even close to leading a rally met shoot stage, and my best of it was coming up, so it's like all right. You've got everything to lose. Nothing to gain I. Just thought about. Know what I can do it like I'm eight for ten in the phone bit. That's an eighty percent chance. That district is going to work. Yeah, there's a twenty percent chance that the money ended up in the hospital, but I know I can make it, and I just had my rally team and my wife or Girlfriend at the time and everything just looking at me like you're Nydia, but it works. Can you do it now? I know that it's it's a feeling. There's also kind of a feeling where you're leading up into it. And it in one sort of millisecond, you have to commit to it like you. There's a version of it where you don't commit where he just do one flip and kind of get out of it like there's a feeling where you go all in. There's like an all in past the point of no return kind of feeling that again. I'm just I'm picturing from the stupid stuff I did on my bmx bike like where you're trying to. I like to jump. Sets of stairs. Be Twelve stairs. There's a parking lot, so I know that I know exactly that feeling. Which is there a? There was a church that was across the street from Colfax Elementary, and it had like a set of twelve stairs, cement stairs, stucco walls about five foot, wide on both sides of it and I was never got see enough to jump the stairs on my bmx bike and on sixth grade graduation while everyone else was like wanted to cake and hang out whatever I was like now. Now, it's time to take on those stairs, and like now you're man. You're out of the sixth grade. You're officially a man and you gotta go conquer the stairs who've been haunting me for three years because fuck and scared to get a run at them and just go often and I remember while everyone else is like going. Hey, we're going to have a barbecue. I was like I gotta go to the stairs and I want across the street to the church and I went up top. And I was like now you're man, and now you have to conquer the stairs and I just jumped it I. AIn't Shit! A complete I remember hitting the stucco Wall on one side rolling on the ground and everything, but I remember like you gotta do those stairs. They're bugging you. Now. My question to you is would you ever regretted more crashing eating? Or not having the guts to want to know if it would have worked. I once. I H Shit. I got up and I was like all right well. You did the stairs. But you did the stairs, and you can move on by the way to the loading dock behind Gilson supermarket. There was a four foot high cement. Loading dock does like I can do that loading dock to. The same stupid shit, but I mean. Yes, I was. I was I was bothered by it in. On again. This is a much smaller. Scale, than what you're doing, I'm saying. It's the same feeling. I think is what I'm talking about. It doesn't change from your first time. You get air jumping a five-foot tabletop or jumping literally a four hundred foot double. Over the Grand Canyon, it's. It's pushing yourself and knowing that if you can do it, you're like this i. need to become a man and you test yourself you like especially. My Dad always said if you say you're GONNA do it. Do it so be careful what you say you're gonNA. Do but be word I feel like you might have got that from knievel. Just like if you if you think you can do it. Don't talk about it. Don't Brag about it. Be It and that was? You know for me like listening to that story. That's what I feel like my childhood. So many times think of something instead of saying hey I'm gonNA. Do this you just get up and you like I? Know I can do it and you might be wrong. You might be right, but at the end of the day that you know you had the guts to try it. I feel like not being afraid to fail and also being accountable for your actions in action sports crash. You are fully accountable for your decision like it's GonNa suck. You're going to get broken. Hurt and I feel like those are life lessons that. Really followed me through for everything I've ever done. I think we might have your trick here. Crystalline found it and tell me if this is it. Football, take. What US dock landing on that and yeah, that was I've never seen anyone do that on a motorcycle or really haven't yet, so this is they call? It is hard plastic over basically go a three foot tall bag so technically to be official. Do you gotta do it to dirt? But I was just stoked. I wanted to prove that this could be done. Everyone's like it won't go into second rotation. Like anytime rotate the one because I was trying to back flip through sixty for six years, and just the way it came through, it didn't work, but I'm like what if you add another rotation? So it's easier to do a double foot with a three sixty that a single back within three sixty now battle boggle, everyone's mind, but it is effect. How much are you not in what you just did? But let's just say you're just getting big air on a jump sort of. Indoor Stadium, style, Motocross Riding Jeremy McGrath style stuff How much controlling of a bike can you do with the gyroscopic action of the rear wheel whether you're accelerating or braking? So the faster the wheels are spinning the more. It matter so for instance in a car. You know if you hit the handbrake. It stops the rear wheels, and if you do that at fifty miles an hour, not a lot happens, but if you do two hundred miles an hour, that fron drops so fast like you almost start a front flip so same thing monster trucks can take off, and they can actually do a double backflip because the wheel mass is thirty percent of the total mass of the vehicle. Where if you look at a bicycle or even a motorcycle, the wheel masses is six percent or something so. The more of the vehicles mass that is in the wheels. The more you do it, so if you look at RC card, you can take off jumping straight. Hit The gas into a double backflip. Stop It. You know because obviously the tires proportionately are pretty heavy and they spend. Exponentially from anything. That's real. Because they've seen guys jumping motorcycles, and like the front ends up a little too high, or the back ends up a little too high, and they literally adjusted in the air which I. Never Really Thought about you. There's a lot. There's a fair bit of adjustment when you're doing a double backflip. I guess, but when you're just doing motocross, right? Yeah no for sure and that's. Maybe I shouldn't say this, but. I like to ride. The motocross track with my daughter always loves to go. We got we'll handlebars input bags and stuff and I was going to get a small little jump, but hit the rear brake, and she's like what just happened was like real break. She was like oh I went over. Hit The gas, so it's like a five year old. That's like Oh so you travel and it comes up and hit the break, so yeah, tell teaching that to. Say she's on the back of the bike. The front she's. Never mind never happened. Yeah, hypothetically, some guy and So much better than my dad so for you. Racing so! Would you say that you like competing and in that competition could be with yourself if it needs to be, or it could be with other drivers, but either way you just like that competition. So I like racing with a checkered flag, because it's not necessarily being better, it is simply bring your competition down to your level, figuring out a way to equalize the playing field and like a nascar if you're not cheating trying. Another team you look at the rule book and you say. What hasn't been thought. How can I get more downpours raking any of the rules that are officially written down? And I liked that aspect I like that aspect in all sport and everyone's looking to that little competitive edge at the very top. Freestyles different and what's really neat about X. Games zippy look at Tony Hawkes. Nine hundred back Ninety Nine X. Games You know these guys have a chance there's. Thirty thousand dollars on the line for first place like these guys. No one's getting paid anytime outside of that. In the year. Everyone's had day job at this point in inaction sports so like. Pretty much. A full year's paycheck is going to come out of this one event, and even the guy that's currently leading, bat event. After the time is yelling at x games. No, no, keep it going. We WanNa see this guy landed, and it's about pushing the human spirit pushing. What's physically possible and what's what people think is impossible and going beyond those boundaries and that's sounds a little for this, but. At the end of the day Tony, Hawk landed that trick after time because all of his peers instead of saying no, I want to win said I. Want to see something be done tonight. That has never been done before, and I feel like that's what separates most sport from freestyle. Your action sports because it's not necessarily about winning. But it's about progression. Label have you ever been involved with are invited to or thought about doing any vintage racing? Man I break so many new bikes I don't i. don't mean to jump. I've Yeltsin to go back. Did vintage automobile not. Do, so I did the east African Safari Classic Rally and that was amazing jumped in A. Old Porsche rule drive. Win Across the basically center of Africa, and it's good, because rally usually notes for every little bump and I'm out there without for Breezy as MAZING ICONIC female rally co driver, and we're going across any. She's like yes, Twenty miles. And then a sharp right like what we twenty miles, and then she goes L. Tabu Elephant Poo. I'm like what? Okay cool. There's elephant boots. And then we came over two hundred fifty, and there's elephants the middle I told you eligible boom. Slowdown there's elephants thereby. You're driving. Are you driving a vintage? Nine eleven in that race at age nine eleven? Yes, yeah. Yeah that's it. Yeah. People don't realize that they They had a killer nine, fifty nine, I think as Rothmans. Porsche they had some really cool rally. Nine eleven's everyone always thinks of them as road course road racing cars, but they did a lot of those cars. Trying to think like I have a Lotta datsuns Datsun racecars, they had Baja five hundred Z. cars and Baja five hundred five tens and lot of Paris to Dakar nine elevens and nine fifty nine. They had a lot of A. Lot of guys who did a lot of road racing also had a lot of off road. Stuff back back then as well trying to think like. 'cause like Subaru does a lot of rally racing, but they're not a lot. They're not doing any road racing I. Don't think a little bit like the twenty four hour stuff. Not at that that level of Lamont's where you're looking at the prototype class. again I just Subaru is they're built for rally all wheel drive I mean super durable like they. They're the only car still. That uses their actual frame their actual motor everything. You're looking at a Volkswagen bug. which nothing wrong with it? When you know that things fly zero sixty at one point eight seconds. She like wait a minute. What's in that book? Yeah Yeah, the one tanner faustus driving not. Not a stock. There's nothing stock about that. Yeah! Nineteen, eighty four Porsche nine fifty nine rally took both first and second in the. In the sorry in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty six. Porsche nine, fifty, nine, one, the Paris Dakar. First Second Dakar Rally those cars by the way I think one of those sold for like six million bucks or something the other day, have you? Have you thought about Doing Lama? And and or Daytona Twenty four hours at Daytona twelve hours to see bring. An endurance. Endurance races out here or there? Had had a great opportunity to jump in with with Kaufman and Michael Waltrip. Drove a Ferrari in twenty four hours of Daytona. But for me. As much as awesome I better at making the best of the worst situations. I'm better when. You're sideways. On the dirt, figuring out how to keep the car on the road where those guys I mean twenty four hour races turn into a sprint race. These guys. Every single lap is within a couple of tenths of a second. Don't wait out the brakes. They're not Harlem cars. They don't ever overshoot a corner of the tires or stay on the hallway. These are precision guys. I, am not a precision driver. I am a Hail Mary throw caution to the wind, and hopefully I have mechanics that can fix my car before the next stage. Well. It's interesting. We're looking at you and a four eighty eight. I'm guessing four thirty. Four thirty trying to think of what you drove there. and. Do you drive a four, thirty or four eighty eight. You know to be perfectly honest. I'm like Cole trickle. They put me in the car to drive and everyone did every time i. sit down and like a bar or something. Every due to the bar comes up and starts talking cars and dirt bikes. Like Dude I seriously I'd love to drive I know nothing of mechanics. Sorry, four, fifty eight. That's in between the four, thirty, the four, eighty eight, and so I screwed that one up. Yeah the thing about the endurance racing. 'cause I've I, interviewed like the late Great Dan Gurney about winning Lamar and you know he would tell me that at the end of the Malzahn straight. You couldn't just break hard and downshift. Attorney had to make the brakes last you know, and so he started developing all these techniques because you. Half of it was, you had to drive the. The car, and then you also at the save the car I mean he couldn't break the car, so you couldn't drive a twenty four hour. Endurance race like a sprint race car would break back then now. The technology is so good, and the materials are so good that you can drive a twenty four hour race like a sprint, which is pretty intense for twenty four hours. So, yeah, the geyser are absolutely amazing it. I'll tell you there's there's so many great race car drivers like every time. I think you know one a couple of US championships rally and every time I think man. Or really on top a game, some sixty seventy or dude comes out smoking, a cigarette, stick bunk, one, thousand, nine, hundred eighty three world rally champion back in the group B. Days when they used to have so much horsepower in my. Second third year, and he comes over to the US you know late sixties at the time. doesn't do anything that an athlete. You would think of as and looked are lots and. It's something that you lose probably last. Is that feel of driving? So it's it's like motocross accepted. It's you can do it for a really long time, so there's just so many amazing drivers comes down to the little details like NASCAR. It comes down to the crew chief driver in the homework that you put in along these things now car I think would be a really exciting rally, and we so much fun. But, again, you can't overdrive a hard time when you watch. Someone like I. Did the Baja One thousand a few times? And some will come flying by it and you're like oh! I got to keep up with him, but not really. You just have to keep up with the fastest guy that's not going to break. His vehicle crashed and in one thousand miles or like. You know in the car. You're going for days, so it's. It's really difficult to know how fast you have to go and to know what the opponents are doing. It's sometimes you're like all right well. We're right in the hunt, and then they'll just turn on the heater and you're like shoot were two minutes down like would they do and they just had that much more tank so? Distant tracings always been been difficult for my kind of driving share my kind of talent if you will are you able to and I know exactly what you're talking about because I've done a couple of events with the Jimmy Vasser and that guy would just show up. Look hung over. have someone cigarette like go out and he'd like Ed ten laps that qualify he do two and a half laughs, and then just come in. Get back out of the car and go grab a beer and start walking away, and then you're like who's on the poll over on the Paul he only did two laps. Yeah, that's fast enough for him like. Crazy when the guys have the kind of casual talent or ability or something, but. And this is with. Faster put. He put in his time. Years and years, and now he's just. He's just that good, but you look at so many of the guys that. Look at route even sport, but rally in the early nineties late eighties, man not used to go, and they'd recommend, and they drink all night, and they rally all day, and then it was all about the party kind of like game in the late nineties. And now what's money comes involved that you can't do that anymore. These guys even ask her there fit i. mean these guys are doing? Their days doing triathlons, they're they're trying to get lightweight. There's an argument in champions. Funniest conversation ever been a fly on the wall for race. Champions gets together. Like all throat in and road driver from all over the world from different countries to represent your country, so I was on with with Kyle Busch and the F one champion the time, Sebastian biddle was making fun of of Kyle. About. Real driver, look at look at your gut and Kyle is a light guy. In general is like. What do you mean? He's like? Look at your slippers. And that'll the ingrate German? He's like he thought it was a compliment. He's like Oh yes there like a point. Oh, three ounces like these. These are great. And it was just so funny here in a difference because the F., one guy's every. Like Header Solberg won't even drive with a watch on. Because that's GonNa take a half a tenth of a second by the end of the rally or the rally, so they're trying to cut down on all this weight. Do everything where the Nasdaq guys are still kind of your good old boys really like just out. Drive you. Will see the difference in culture and how much it is evolving now to. Every little ounce matters, and that's where everyone is already well. It's funny if you watch if you see you, go back in the day. And you see mark Spitz who was like the greatest Olympic swimmer of all time. Before, Phelps I think. He won six gold six gold medals. He's got a big bushy seventies porn moustache and big seventies hair and he's like yeah, so I roll, and it's like now. Guys are shaving every every fucking hair on their body, just to try to get a little less drag, you know through the water and it kind of reminds me of that like it. A big old bushy moustache. Nobody would do that with long hair chest, hair and stuff like nobody would do that today. You're slow yourself down purpose. The have at the ladies love it. They for you so travel for you. Are you able to shut it down as and I don't know if you think of yourself as an Adrenalin Junkie, but are you able to? Just you know watch TV and have a beer and not be sort of have mind racing thinking about the next conquest through the next project the next adventure. Yeah I mean definitely I. Tell You if anything Cobra has been really good. I've never been able to take shouldn't sorry let me rephrase not been good, but it has been good for my family specifically. Not Financially are not business, wise or anything else. It's been really tough obviously on everyone. But I would have never been able to spend the last three months at home. I was playing on the road for two months. My family was gonNA. Try to come out between school on the weekends to see me at the events, but even at the events or you know when you're doing your shows or anything it. You're still focused on other stuff, even billiard there together. I've had so much time to spend with my family end. This has been a really kind of a wake up. Call to say. Hey, look, you wouldn't have got this time back in the actually really say you started a project in. Maryland always wanted to be home more. Traveling spin amazing especially for single guides great, but now with two young daughters, my wife. Starting at an area where my wife is the. Two thousand eighteen world champion for skateboards and my kids like the and go-carts, so we're starting in kind of a motor sports facility. That's close by. And also show off rally to see to build a track. Track for? Back to Washington rod where all those things are bigger and scarier in crazier, but also you know to build a safe as we can. Now with the Olympics and everything and my wife working with women's sports to have a place for the kids have a chance to get an action sports than where we can do together. Yeah, it's a good answer because I've the same way. I've always traveling always doing shows always the getting on a plane and you know this SORTA. Hustle Hustle Hustle because you. Have you have a motor? And you kind of have? This gotTa make that Hay while the sun is shining kind of thing, and then it all gets shut down, and then you find yourself sort of hanging around and kind of enjoying your family like it was like. Oh, I don't know why I don't know. But I think in a weird way for guys like you and I. Somebody some forced from the outside has to stop. I don't know if you're GONNA do it internally. It has to be imposed on you right. That's what I said with motocross. When you say Oh, you have taken a break. Meant your your broken, so you can't ride. You're sitting. Right you took a break. the show which is very excellent by the way which is coming onto Quebecor this Monday. July six life size toys. It's it's big. It's visually spectacular and Travis. I'm always amazed in a little bit jealous how good he is in! How funny is on camera? I, that's You know most guys who. Wear helmet for a living. Aren't so good in front of the camera. Whether they're football. Players are rally drivers, but you. You are blessed in many different fields, my friends, so you have this sort of natural affable likeability and ease in front of the camera and funny and also go out there and do what you do in the state. Department so. The. TV show cool because we actually are on quitting. Kind of. New Format but we got to take a group of guys. Golden WHO's one of the top female? Motorola only motocross racer female that ever qualified for for an actual pro event. But. Guys that are normally so scared doing what they're doing that. They don't have a chance to get. Their personality acrossed and in this show we just had two weeks together, just making fun of each other having a blast, and it really felt like we were just big kids again you know and. For US yeah. It turned out to be a little more of a stunt ship. Build out which we had kind of started, but at the end it was just it was so much fun and I think that Camaraderie really came through you to see the guys actually having fun and not feared for the life or doing dropping at an X. Games where their whole livelihood depends on so much. The ads a good watch, life-sized toys qube. Coming up Monday July six. Thanks for joining us. Travis, Pastrana a huge fan, and hopefully when you're out in la next. I can show you a bunch of race cars and. Hang out a little bit. Careful what you what you asked for I will take on that in a second I. appreciate it. Thanks Travis. Appreciate it all right. Let me hit live by live four. Th of July micks right this weekend putting together my personal fourth of July micks a great music for you to enjoy while you celebrate the nation's personal achievement day there you go just go to live by live. That's live x live, dot, com, and search atom, or download the Lai by live APP again search. 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I'm I'm starting to realize so it'll have devil in it or son with global warming and temperatures rising. You know it's going to be thinking about the sun. There's GonNa be issues so I. Kinda redundant when you think about it, devil in the Sun. Yeah, that's where he would be. We don't need to say they wait. It's hot where the devil is. Yeah, we know. Now hockey teams. The irony is all minor league hockey teams include ice, and just about everything they do whatever it is the Ice Grizzlies, the ice, devils, or whatever the New Jersey devils didn't do that, but In blazing hot Arizona they. Like, it's not just a devil. It's one that's in the Sun Weird I. Don't think it's I think it's cheating to just add ice in front of whatever animal doesn't exist on the ice. You're not. You're not allowed to do that like you can't go the ice wallabies, and then on the ice they live in Australia. There's no ice. They live in the outback. You can't just quit. Well I'm saying you can't just put a put ice in front of something, and and make it into a hockey team, and by the way I agree I hate it. They don't do that with. They don't take animals who they go. The turf polar bears new soccer team. They don't do that. The. NBA teams aren't like the would devils right? We don't need that. Just we get pick a name. That's good Nov and by the way you don't have to justify it. I understand the badgers. Don't play hockey. The you know what I mean like I. Wrap my mind around that concept like you want to name. Your name, your junior hockey team. The badgers I'm not gonNA. Go wait a minute. Badgers playing these young young boys. What's going on in the world? It's you're right I. Don't know why, but we've talked about that before. It makes me crazy in this age of every name changing still among the most vexing for this nerdy fan and a guy who loved hockey growing up is. That the governors of the NHL put their heads together and they're like. We're not popular enough gang. What can we do? You know what it is. It's our unique divisional names like with the Norris, division. It's off putting to people like what the math on that is fascinating to me about like dumbing it down. The lowest common denominator kind of application to everything makes me Loco I. Don't know you're aware that La. Kid, but you know. The whales and the Campbell conferences. It wasn't a East and West. The, Patrick Division, but it's meaningful now. It's like oh much more palatable now now it's just the Atlantic to be. Oh, great now I! Get Now I. DO WE I? Don't know where the north I don't know where the name come from I do. I do I remember the linebackers and football? Be like Mike, Stud and Baker you know but I. Don't know why we needed handles. Can we say inside strong side or side outside? I think people really you know people like the. They like specific. Specific talk doctors like it. Attorneys like it I'm a woodworker. Would workers all kinds of terms and it kinda separates us from them or you? You know and so anyone real estate guys do that. You Know Sports. Guys love it, and they love to talk real fast, and then stop and explain to the little people you know like the unwashed masses. What what it is talking? About comedy, writing the blow. Tell me about the below. What does that mean right? Right settled down with your fancy. I I agree with you, but then. I completely agree with that that it's. It's separate you from the unwashed, but then also it's like those same people who who enjoy dealing in that. In that advanced jargon, then the solution is how do we make more people like it? We have to dumb it down where we're smart. Let's say you gotTa dumb it down. I do yeah, not for you understand the meaning of everything you're talking about, but you gotta dumb it down for everyone else. In the nation I like I like that lawyers. Do it a lot. Pilots do it a lot in on I. Mean They don't say? Let's say gas fuel. They'd have a little little tells. Doctors of course, do it a lot. I mean if you hang around with mark. And doctors much as as I, do you will, you will hear tons of that. Oh Yeah I. mean the Bill Bar. It seems to me. He's on our TV's quite a bit and I. Don't think he's ever gone four. into a sentence without including the word predicates, he loves saying that one. Is there a proper predicate and I've never heard. People use a predicated and everything else as much as this guy has in the last couple of years in our in our collective lives of watching TV together. Does bar wait this bill bar? Who looks so whenever I see Bill Borrego? That guy looks like a sixty year old. Who who is eleven at the same time he has that kid. Look you know what I mean because because he looks like because he looks really like Oh, I can't think of that. Path right you're. No I was GONNA. Say Oh, that's a great call actually from a Christmas movie. I was GONNA actually go with your Powell. Who wrote it? Feel better, but the with the live baird are the teddy bear. Oh? Seth Macfarlane DEFEC-. Looks Ted is. It looks like Teddy Bear. So who are the guys who look you know? There's just a thing there's just A. SORTA man child thing just guys that look like when they're sixty. Look like they're eleven years old. He always has that look. To me. You know what I mean and as what we've discussed before. It's really what you want. You know like poor sparky Anderson. When he was when he was thirty nine years of age, he looked fifty four, but when he was seventy-five, he still looked fifty four. He never changed once. You reach a certain age. That's what you want the long play. Ab You if you go bald at twenty seven alright, not ideal, but people will think you still look the same as when when we met forty years ago. You know when you're right off. The celebrate seventieth birthday all right. So what do you got? Check your about to throw something out I. was just GonNa ask you because? A little wind play show to bring home the week. Win Place show. That's go is about as fundamentalists. We can go here shapes. I have some thoughts on it I have some broad thoughts on it. I mean like it just as red, blue and yellow are the primary colors I feel that the primary three shapes, our circle, square triangle, and by the same dot, using the same dynamic, if there are two stars out of the three, and if there's the third wheel among the colors, it's definitely yellow. Mike everybody I, read or blue, but yellow nobody. It's the third. It's third place same thing with the triangle and I don't know if it's fair, it would definitely be. At the rake their favorite. Shapes it would come down. Bill Bar and what's his name? Of Christmas story and it couldn't be more spot. That's crazy. That's him. Not Say but wouldn't you say circle and square? If if if the world waited on this, it would be one of those other and the try and go get short shrift, my you know. I think it deserves a shout out here and I've just given it to. Your favorite shape makes. I'm a rectangle and or Oblong Kinda Guy. WHO's? Playing wildcard he's writing in he's. I'm picturing you know the shape of a football field of basketball court of a tennis court. You know soccer like all most all are played on that shape. I don't know is an oblong another name for wreck. Rectangle or Or is it different I think oblong. Oval is what comes to my mind. I mean now look up oblong. Or Square. It's also you know. I hadn't really thought about this and that, but now I am I think if you choose circle. It sort of says that you're an individualist. Why because you don't lean on anybody else except you're just, it's one complete circle. By an individual verses, a square requires four parts equal of the exact same length, and not a whisker, more or less coming together to form a perfect shape so an oblong I'm going oblong because this the Swiss army knife of names shapes because it's a long gated. It's a rectangle or oval shape and I love what it is I love I love. I love a football field, and I love the indy five. Hundred is well. That's a that's oblong. They're both fall under the umbrella of Oblong. Oblong Adam, Corolla and square Dave Damasec. Completing another successful week of hot sport stockier for you as a good time in the valley of the Sun, and we'll be back with some more hot sports. Talk for you next week until. Four Adam Corolla Dave damage did sports album. Follow the atom. Kerala show on twitter at Adam Corolla show. Follow me on twitter at Adam Corolla leave his voice mail at Eight, eight, eight, six, four, one, seven, four, four Adams Brooke I'm here emotional support animal. 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Autosport@70 - Choosing the greatest rally car of all time

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Autosport@70 - Choosing the greatest rally car of all time

"Welcome to the life sedition also seventy podcast. Seventy years old and we've taken on the challenge you picking out the greatest calls in various categories and this excite is all about rally halls. On chief Kevin and joining me is somebody who's literally written a book. About some of these also good person have Nicholson. Welcome the seventy dollars how you doing really well, thanks really well, Kevin's gorgeous day for the sun is shining and we made it very appropriate for marrying is. News, being muddy and wet and and if you do it, well, sorry would be. When you look at the devolution of the spoils in the cows that we're all going to be talking about the ones which really will infants minds and in terms of statistics be. Familiar and familiar shape. But the it sort of takes from the the early days of stage rallying up to the present day. Because, before that it was really very gentlemanly. my wife's grandfather used to rally a bit full of or just after, and it was very much a boyzone Tulsa thing Ian Fleming used to do rallies. So. You can imagine the kind of things that went on and then suddenly. Stage running emerged Scandinavia, the modem manufacturers were putting together big works, teams, and rather serious. So. Os Graham stood out of it because he realized that he was not going to be competitive and more likely to hurt himself trying to keep up with these whizzy chaps turning up from Finland Meriva. And and it was sort of the the the beginning of of the professional era as we now know it and of goes you know it's still the second most watched series at the FAA. Looks after its go huge following around the world when he The sports guys meets peoples. It's it's nice to. Be Able to have that middle Reflection on that here. I think chosen to go with the the mini stop. This is the first of our dozen way we have the basic criteria and. How successful the calls did they challenge the game in terms of sort of technological innovation or any other area, and now are brilliant sort of. It gets out of jail free card. Anger writing, which basically means we can disolve. We actually like execs firearms cheating man but yes. So as as Neat Rodney says there the first one is many is a huge fan favorite. Not, just the Iranian coast, but on the road ending cows famous for its multicolored rally successes although I think it's worth pointing out perhaps the first one, the school with a little bit of help from in terms of the license to tell him what you're talking about move from regularity troy top across. To the to the sheer speed that we know now. So it was it wasn't the false these call get a rally. I did then nosy gallons who earn spurs in many other events. So yeah, when he stand on the on the Manila, Nick? Well I mean, the mini I suppose for me is the call really got things moving for my biggest heroines, boost you a ton of because, Dave is a man that was you know a navigator and journalists and has his head together when it came to marketing of promotion and so on. and. Really was committed to win and it was his ethos he brought when he replaced chambers headed the team the EMC. with really I think made all that tweaking off the cows to fit the available rigs for each events a possibility, and obviously he had some great engineers EMC and he brought in some great drivers particularly the fens but he had petty up cut out ready and he really made that car successful against BMC's wishes because. The mini bottles a tricky little car full then in that it was designed obviously. Brilliant piece of work by governess to meet a fuel crisis, which sort of being gum and they were left with this brilliant. It'll calm which in a world where obviously bigger was better as far as the consumer was concerned, the mini that was not popular and had to be priced at a point where this tiny little was attractive and that meant that they were losing money on every single one that they sold. and. Not many people buying them even at that price. So I needed something and turn a sort of. Got Together with John Cougar had seen potential in the chassis and the Dominica Solo came into being and ninety, sixty, two. I think was its first. Competitive Season at one three events. Two of them driven by Patnow. So you've got an enormous story there of a woman driver in this miniscule little car winning two European. Rally Championship. Events. novas still some time before the WWL. Really, was the the top level. And won three events overruled one rally. The midnight, Sun Rally in Sweden and in Germany. And Pat Moss wounded the Cheetah's in the German ready. So it really was quite a strong stops. The came most was second overruled in the European rally championship of that year. and. Here it was a stunning. It'll cub but it still wasn't quite enough in terms of performance. BMC was still Sosa focused on the eighty three thousand and the MGB. As the cows they wanted to promote and turn An Giang trooper and the engineer has really happened to sort of. Them round to look here is the mini it can really compete and if you give us. Ideally the funds to develop you all the different nine, seventy, nine, hundred nights, ten, seventy, one different engines, which then give you the different wheel sizes and the different weights and everything else that you can work with in the in the in the period that's what they needed, and so they eventually got a semi green light in sixty three. The event really sort of got things rolling fools in was the tour De. France? When thirty three, which would become famous. About six months when it won the Monte Carlo Rally and did the Tour de France with Patti hookup wheel, how'd he was mixing it with the big boys and in those days? The Tour de France was a huge event for the French particularly is live on television an awful lot of it and they were entrenched by this tiny little cog going up against Ford, Falcons in big situations and being Sutton in shout the podium and the potentially that for a win and That is where the romance of the Mini Cooper really begun. I think personally because sales started to go up led by fronts and joe turn was unable to go back to be MC and show them success sales spike. Let's throw even more money at it and see what we can really do with it, and that's when you get to to sixty four Monte Carlo rally boom legend is. Basically. Yes and it was it was a giant can that's why it's such a fan favorite taking on these big calls and it goes pretty worth mentioning Ducasse's one of the most famous many rally factors it should have one full Monte-carlo. On the trump but it was a while it was not noble in sixty six prissy facetious. Well is that fair for me to say things look pretty facetious reason to be disqualified. It was about the lights wasn't it? Well Yeah. We all speaking as Brits from a practice perspective with British history books which say those rotten fringe people taken away from us. And I don't think that they were homologated but those lights even though the car that had exactly the same lights. On remarkable decision D. S. nineteen. Yes. Is. An. Interesting thing about the mini is another context both road car and and. When we come to a touring car It kind of the packaging is the groundbreaking ultimate from will drive in particular. Almost, auto cars now certainly caused on the Right Front Withdrawal Kunsi inviting that's not quite saying it was a kind of a bit of a cold sack in that respect in for longtime off twigs Israel will draw as we will come. A little bit light. Anyone. Else's forward upset in that respect is probably one area where the mini doesn't actually school that holiday does it? No I mean it it the calls were large and rare will drive before the mini on cars with larger and reveal drive after the mini Sunday it really claim that I think. It really stands out is yes it was handled beautifully it was the ideal package and totally Possible to Taylor at some cost Taylor to to the needs of each event mean when you look at the ones that it won. An run outs and in one, the sixty five European Championship. From Mckinnon's though first and second in the year been championship because they one. Geneva. Czech Republic Poland Thousand Lakes Munich vienna-budapest in the IRA see as well as the Monte Carlo. So that's that's a feral record in. Eight mountains in that season six, a with that tiny little car. So but that is as much strategic planning and the the prep work that was done and the way that servicing was laid out, which was at the level tightly third of by the sport up until that point. So on record given some of the 'cause that GONNA come up on this to made the mini doesn't quite get through to the final on the spectacular and the game changing front. So you happy for us to. Leave the mini van has an honorable mention but the Israelis the final stages. Potentially. It's in limbo for me. It's not quite damned. It's not quite on a pedestal yet. It's there. Because it did give the host bulls such lift. Did do so much. Culturally you know it really is a part of the sixties because of writing and one Monte Carlo the fluid back in by the Beatles. New went on Palladium TV that following not you know it's not sort of swinging sixties iconography you know people still today by Redman as Reuss Sutton he got the style right And it's certainly not the worst average in terms of championships one out of those available or rallies twenty, two events at seventy seven styles. Leave me at the moment and we'll move on man's coney design of the sixties how about an iconic design in the seventies? deathly have the wow factor. So the launch astrology build a to guy routing from Ferrari in mid. Outrageous. Yet. found fantastic. Those take the Senate he takes the. Success box again. I, would say. Whether it's the game changer. Thing is an interesting point because in a wildcard is. Group. Babes invented but that's probably a bit stretch given. How many more years we had to white for base where the straw also says slots in. Don't. You think you're entirely right I think that when the original thinking that went into great bay. Came to be what they wanted was to create a field full of struggles. They wanted that look they wanted back dynamism and they wanted that noise because that Ferrari engine out in the forest or on on on a mountain side road echoing back to. Exit pretty much everything you want from radical. And they wanted to bring that level of spectacle across the sport. It's also. An awful lot cheaper to build a competition car and make it roadworthy will make it look Right Cup than it is to take a road car make it competitive particularly against something like structures and so that that something else because lots never had a vast amount of money. and. It was always sort of on the verge of things going horribly wrong financially, and it really was again much like and. It was the management and Jesuit Furio and his ability to go another step further it's sort of the he was e multiple equivalent of Johann Kroth title rallying, and there was no stunned to be left unturned in finding that that advantage of your opposition thing and the struggle is just the embodiment of that that's facing. The content really exists about from his erotica thing it's probably not locking make an honorable mention for Miss Lewis stable. Which is the fate once we WANNA. Ball. It gets. down. To the fact that it's not the strongest and it's not before school, which is the ultimate three boxer will drive seventies battling cal Yanni's they'll take is. Probably worth mentioning that as being once in the seventies, it was sort of really fitting between. Lancia and unfair I supposed to little bit likely Straw on the challenge in the mid seventies in one three. One kind of little bit lights of a kind of see them as kind of the. Saudi at each of the age coin rating. Yeah. That's sort of. The slightly Esoteric fit group policy as well. Gaza car that's fairly dominant from LANC- but they don't sell it in their showrooms and they then invest probably five times the budget to build. The, three one into a call that compete the structures. So it? Danielle data is brought back from Ferrari Formula One team having managed. Seventy five seventy six programs with with louder. And he was I think traumatized from talking to him. He's traumatized into seventy six with everything that had happened that year I was quite glad to go back to rallying. With the Fed but obviously then had this issue that you were competing against your sister company. And They they did very well to eventually overhaul it, but it was by no means a an easy job and Last. World Championship win folds struggles was ninety one. On the Monte it was competitive for that long it was so so far advanced. So. Eight seasons that it was running up front three manufacturers title and the Drivers Will Cup full drivers will championship came in a eighty seven rallies. Seventeen wins not actually as strong strike raises the mini in of its life span, but such calm and such an evocative car and. Ultimately laid the groundwork for group. B.. So I think that really does have to be in that particularly because it really knocked out the territory that lunch was going to remain in. There are no limits that we will not push in terms of designing the car developing the car or running on events. Yeah, I'm I'm happy to put here through I think it's this point. just just on the cool factor. Really. So. Yeah I think I think the strong also social skills through on the suspect. The next call list is even easier through to the fallen. On the at school I think even we could be more specific sites ESCO isn't it right on the deed certainly skull accessories, but it's the it's the mall to ours eighteen hundred that's sort of that's the kind of odd Konate rallying image of this of the seventies isn't it? It is an, it was a superb come. From from day one, really I mean as legend has it that just one of the engineers soul an early escort being driven around the test track and went On with the twin cabinet. and. then. The Ne- Bud spoke. Of happens that goes time in the late sixties Ford was alive with my disposes GT's wrong going the FA programs coming onstream in Formula One and why not there on a winning streak one off tackle rounding to. The had been rallying Tina Enescu really look like an ideal platform and learn behold that mance Joe Turner turns up again having been broken from BMC and he does it again. And the original con Sixty, eight, sixty, nine with was quick on rallies but it was frail. And they had to redesign which meant having to. Change a lot of parts and create effectively a new coach was the sixteen hundred and had to get a new engine for it, which is the and everyone is extremely excited about speedy a engine but it would take some time to get up to speed. So for example, and this was sort of the the PT bomb adamant of Stuart Zona came out and doing the London to Mexico rally with what was effectively a board out sixty nine Kenton Gin in what would become the well Radhika. And Cools. Fabulous while Jimmy Greaves driving one of the 'cause they won the events overrule it was sponsored by newspapers, which was a genius when you look at pictures of escort particularly, the works 'cause if they haven't done sponsor on, then got the name of the newspaper because you at ten cooling appendages going. I don't want any money from you put your name on the cal would you write about this? An Costa did so it was drake US usually in the thick of it one an awful lot so. That methodology again, it's it's this whole. Emerging. Mentality of this school. Which Sutton encounter viario ready with the pioneers of. And they asked what was just the to let me when you talk to Ari Vatanen who is If he's not everyone's favorite driving he in that salt three and he goes misty eyed when you mentioned the escort and to him, it was his paintbrush. Things about your school is so accessible isn't it? So lots of privateers right to feel like heroes in them, but the real masters you like last logic Clark. McKinnon's people that were I mean they can take on anyone in a in a prepared ESCO. Off Investors Talk, as you said, a lot of how chocolate was and you could use up the cold in threats and otherwise, and that slide you down as much as bothering to break. So things. Off Being Devils Africa's straightens winning the Manufacturers Championship. It's Ford, is pretty conspicuous by its absence. Remarkable sales jumped in late but. Precious little. Yes. Very good. The racy radicals. And about in terms of winning the manufacturers is just that single jammed. Seventeen fastened, and then did jobs off the couple of years lights. So does that count against it? Do we think I think it does And you do have to temper it with that because it was there for fourteen seasons. eighty-seven rallies because obviously the many rallies and seventeen wins in fourteen years is not massive strike rate. one manufacturers talked to in two drivers for Valley. Golden Vaccination. But the impact the car had on the sport I think. Sort of rules that it is stopped in a pagan mine off the shave Bowie's platform boobs Sweetie taking down villains, jody? Jet Regan was famous for riding around in a comfortable when he was behind the wheel, he was at one point, one two `schools. It was not sold the car. If you're going to work in an escort, you probably felt a bit like logic club. and that whole selling it and even today. Now, there are probably more escorts in competition in Twenty Nineteen and hopefully twenty, twenty one. Thousand Nine, hundred, fifty, five people can't get enough of them and it's sort of a badge of honor amongst wwl drivers that wants us to get a degree of success behind you and you get a few quitting your bank account. You Doug by Osha. You don't get out to build say can have fun at the weekends in it. Erupts in although my one bark bear about that because I'm on a multi make man the British. Rally championship desperate for somebody to get quick toward some able or one free one a ball or something because really do the results is it's ESCO ESCO ex go ESCO. Bit Lot. Formula Ford for rallying but. On hold it success against in that regard that would be Rotherham. I think it has to go through. So to our final. And the next car on the list off I think in terms of gain changing status. is to go maximum maximum. Injury, it's the Audi quattro being in follow Dr Call was GonNa Work I. Mean It seems ridiculous that people didn't think a four wheel drive coward now doesn't it looking back? It does and I mean obviously it was a bit of sleight of hand as famous what the FAA will face meeting when the manufacturers will lead. Putting the rubber stamp on what was going to be on sort of any other business at the end and. Could be just talk about this fan on will drive and can be lifted. Yeah. Some Guy Fun because I never thought it was going to work and the votes vulcanologists had just done Dacca and one which was the Volkswagen Jake and the manufacturers sort of machine Audi just wanted to run that car on the safari and on the the Ivory Coast and leave the other events to the grownups thing no cake find that whatever it's just GonNa be us. Out that whatever and then Sunday. Ended nine thousand, nine, hundred on the GOV rally this. Festival, the Kubay four wheel drive quattro was revealed as a road car. Yeah. Geneva show the drive is is unveiled as a road car everyone takes a gulp going what that looks. We could be in trouble and then it turns out golfing in one, thousand, nine, hundred, twelve season and demolishes everything is coast up on everyone knows they're in trouble and then I think the first stage. Of. Simone the one. Minute dozen in the next call. and that sort of set the trend. But it also set the trend for Audi. Jogging the ball? With that much of an advantage they they just came into it. With to have experience have been running Audi eighties into world championship is two wheel drive cows and. Volkswagen had been there and thereabouts announcement the Gulf. So they weren't completely fresh to it, but they came in this mentality that the technology will win and it doesn't matter anything else really they had nuclear as a safe pair of hands. They went off the wall to roll. As an obvious choice, he only way to winning the nine hundred ninety championship when they approached him. And through those dwelt Bornstein story away from the factory and walks of looked at it, and he looked because Mercedes was planning speak comeback a Mercedes promised him a five year program ending up with a mid engine four wheel drives. Rebecca. From the sages and he thought no I think I'll go with them. and Audi having some thrown open the gates was extremely. Negative tools Walter in the press. And that because he's such A. Old Fashioned gentlemen men of honest to the person both too fat very personally, and he made it his job in everybody that he could completely undermine Audi and they will also doing quite a fed job of of. Taking some time to establish dominance I mean eighteen one because catch fire an awful lot. Eighty. Two the call still kept catching fire and the quick driver was actually Michelle Mutual and the team hesitated to put its weight behind. In the same way, that's most teams would particularly if they under pressure to school results when you Ferdinand bankrolling missing, you can imagine that there was a Feb- of pressure on them to deliver but I can also see that also if Michelle mutual had blunt the ninety two championship. It would have been Michelle first. Audi. Second. They wouldn't have been quattro in the technology winning the championship so they did fight shy. Michele's a consummate politician. But when you look at how they didn't put their weight behind her in the in the crucial rallies of midseason AG. when obviously Walter role had been. Battling Away with ancient ablest GonNa Michelle had done exactly what was needed author and how new had gone off the road blown-up. But rally after rally rally Michelle one-two-three I was really leading championship and. At that point they put. Better, ties on strunk fisker than they did on Michelle's so. Thousand Lakes, when she was leading the championship by the fraction she came off, she wrote the car. Damage just out of it away. When normally any other driver would carry on to the finish and I did put that to the perhaps. you know. She could have benefited from most important she well. I I'M NOT GONNA out with your research. Being the politician. in such masses so I think that they sort of. Whether tactically or not messed up eighty two a little bit But obviously, then eighty-three they they've got it all worked out and you put all your weight behind one driver and that driver was Michaela and everyone on the team eighty-three new Hanover's demand an who to win the championship and thank. A team win. Manufacturers and sadly they felt that will was still that with his flight stick in the ointment at it was only off the joined the team in in full that they could really say that they were. Approaching dominance, but by then of goals Privee. was with moving in a different direction. So yes, it did change the game it brought together tub judging full wheel drive neither of which were. Particularly innovative technologies but they were together they were in competition and they made them work but they dropped the ball in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, two, and then. Rather than adapt to Groupie as it was coming all ended with more power at it and do matt stuff like type stuff out of the will to call which which actually made. It considerably was stick blunk Chris I think was the ultimate quattro driver as always said that his ideal quattro would have had the twenty valve engine in the long wheelbase car and made it lighter. And I. think that stands why don't you people have actually built them since? The. New Research in ever disagree. So don't based on that point, but I'd on quite pleased that they built the. Eighty, five the. Lonestar spitting on, it wasn't very effective Brilliant I. I think stig on the inevitably everytime coming out of the crest of each having to Brian coming out. It's The. Pitney Bowes Conway Way too much power. Than Grit, really an handling. Fantastic. It kind of got more cool. The less effective it became. The ME I love the sound of the ten valve engine that early car without real wobble to it was just a really amazing sound and it's an so unique and. I was nine ten years old. When you tuned into to talk here for the Rally report in Evenings William Woah you wanted to hear that. Are Going on in the background and then you got the the twenty valkyrie streamer an well to roll doing is bits. An incredible piece of machinery and an incredible book dedication the testing program to make that Cobb behave that road carried out in particular was justice downing I mean it's seven days a week. Most of the season they would be pounding and pounding and pounding the stages wherever they needed to be. and. And lots of that develops done in in South Africa, from prying eyes, which is quite a. Yes, oh. Absolutely onsite probably didn't deliver the champion. He didn't live the championships that should although I wonder if that's more down susie citing the tame roles in the car itself perhaps. Point but. I think on the basis that Three significant rally car while apart from the citizens a fantastic beverage significant Mallika after that really was a wistful full withdrawal probably has to go through discussion towards the end. If feel happy with that but I'm all happening. It goes groundbreaker in those terms as a car it was and you know as a cool car is well, it wasn't. A proper ATS coupet and it. Most famous. We'll say to this day fire up the quattro because gene hunt has one because the accident played him remembered seeing. QUADRA. Is Rallying in the eighties on Ebay and it was like I want to go up right if. That could be a trivial. On A. Study best in local in the got. Right, now, on the next one having, we can only allow one of the next two through. So this. Is the OPTIMA Group B rally car is. To are two. Sixteen when she goes actually did the winning in terms of the championship. Or. Is it Lonsdale terrace for? which I would argue with a supercharge, the turbocharger and Probably takes on the fever raging. So Nancy versus perjure will would you think has down the pleasure? It was such an important because it did achieve such staggering success rate and and. Hit was particularly taught his amendment was a rally co-driver, ninety one. Ninety two, he said. It was brought in head of the team to head up the division of struggling carmaker, and he stood there with a straight face and said, we're gonNA come the prototype. Next year we'll run his for win the championship ninety five. And most of the world's of looked like he was about to go liquor window and. In fact. That's exactly what came to pass because. They did the job properly and The love scene was sort of a reaction to that. It was complete reaction to that. We mythology is the Lancia. Too Much I think the fable about it tendency qualifying fifth for the. Wrong Brie and things that Ozzy Newton's got a few things to say about last. Signals. Zero And obviously, it's called. It's Sadly. Known as much for tragedy with with the toilet in an accident and we do tend to mythologies those sorts of causes not people wearing jovial not shots with the number twenty seven on when actually I'd probably the twelve on. If I was if I was wanting to wear up Avila of shut. Yes. It it sort of defined the era in how it got. And I would suggest unbear- others would agree that it didn't really hit off babe be only had five year lifespan an from eighty two to eighty six. And that was the plan was approved s to come in and grew best was killed off and they decided not to renew on bass suddenly for that larger engine capacity and move to the group egg production costs But again, this does so much because it was such a furious time late eighty, five, eighty six, and then the end of the season and it was so much drama and it was all going on and it was so bunkers. that we saw to get a bit too steeped in stuff and I just think that the full gets a bit too much credit for car the. Potentially could have turned hopefuls on its head and I think the best version had that ever gone into competition would have just blown away as it was. They already blew up in away with a degree Baker and there's nothing to touch yet for the next four five years anyway. So I think in terms of Group B.. We have to give it to Persia after graveyard the Tomase Khuda but the perjure in now one won the seven at newhall can can. It was more probably more complete package. And if you if you compare accidents toys, Mama's horrific, Batman's was enormous in Argentina marine side yet. Why the archives a huge accident he was pretty seriously hurt. But As was is was terry but not not at least co-driver Harmon was was pretty bullying. You say the tour perhaps the past the right side of mad in Groupie in terms of both getting the results and and in construction perhaps us a little bit unfair on a lance here on on happier think to put the the to sixty. Eighty two with all the wings on. We'll cover them, bobby. They're both covered off in that I think. I think so yeah. Yeah we certainly. The delta was toy developed. And and he was really the only one, the GOP anywhere close to being comfortable in because it was basically an old seven with a fairly cruel wheel, drive it at and that Matt engine. And the full full it wasn't as fully thought out and it was built on I'm not smoulder budget than what pershing had thrown out the to I five. So it was sort of really a slight desperate measures full lounge to stay in the game fan and drawn take it further on because there was such short development time whereas opposed. Yes it was a very short development time. I think it was six months from concept to fight the type turning out but it was done very sensibly. yet does Adel running the Toba program with the sunbeam loads he basically laid out the architecture for it as being used a friend day domes does went back to the fifties and. Martin at Limo, and he knew the front of dreams should be identical. So you can get if you bend one chuck it away scrapped the first one at the back of drug older nuts and bolts had to be the same size throughout the cob because if you lose one, just grab another one jacket on and that sort of thing, the the the debts of thought, inch and yet the fuel tax were under the same as in full so. Had that question being honest the call It would have probably would come up with a similar on it was still kept law tunnels still rocket fuel and the rocket fuel was positioned onto the drivers. Those sorts of incidents that fell we're. Always more likely with a group car given the technology of the day but at the same time. The real any fundamental fluids to a five was handling when apple throw title up that's what Ari has the misfortune. Throwing the title up, and then when the front wheels landed, they were in holiday on the. Back. End. Of The colleges struggle took the front. And it rolled enrolled in road and. his seat broke Andy was trying about car was ever really in the mid-eighties designed for those sorts of forces so And when you get in those cars. If fortunate enough to. And you sit there and you look at how narrow and spindly those tiny jabs all around you and the rest of fiberglass, and you just realize how rights is. Boys and girls in the group P period they are stunning stunning achievements and. Pushed to the limit and group as a whole deserves its reputation I think. Sensible choice maybe not passionate, Joyce? The me the Persian shades it. On I think I were mentioned Nichols they went on to win the rally. which it certainly did not do. Nothing turf October sixteen goes through. We got from the sort of outrageous over the top of period of rallying say. Well. Initially I think sending the drive is felt was was pretty dismal poll that rally stage times didn't take too long to get back to those. points. Groupie for ninety seven and the Lancia Delta H. A. F.. McCain's into Golly sixteen valve kind of lumping rolled into one one family. I mean in terms of success, it's probably about the strongest car on this list out just for consistent winning of rallies in championships for years and years and years. Absolutely I mean. Nine seasons at at at the forefront basically Nazi rallies forty five wins anecdotes old is check manufacturer's titles Info drives will so it's A unique car which really. Lots you was fortunate to. Have when other manufacturers didn't have anything that that could compete and didn't have the experience that oversee. Nazia had and the team had so for all the right reasons. Not. Call dominated Green Bay. In the Elliot's and To be honest even even when they became under pressure and when the Japanese onslaught of of the World Rally Championship came, it was still able to hold out primarily because of that same old grit and determination which should marked out furious style in the when he started out in the sixties and when he was with the two wheel drive car against try. throwing. Salt down a around Montreal ribs that sort of behaviour. became the norm in the late eighties early nineties with with the GREB acres just to keep in front I mean there's also stories about why would they change the fire extinguishers every service? That's a whole different cows that. A different sort of list that. are think one of the things it's definitely schools for the launch in. Is How it goes when onslaught comes, it's not that it's just enjoying success when it's a bit weak, the change get stronger. Particularly, which GT full. Comes along and Alonzo Hall was its own strikes back against it as well and just from a personal point model the sort of non t to call an with fled cheese. Again, the multi in Libya actually look spectacular as well by then stays times that would it's supposed to be calls. So the the the long way from that underwhelming original minded. It was it was funny. Little boxy shape wasn't that when when it first appeared and luxury coming from full, which been just craziness on steroids and then he goes this humble little of five dol- runabout. which is based on a fit radio, and then it becomes this beefy fainting. With again and exhausted all righty four cylinder. Doing his job sounding like it should be Rossi. It was absolutely gorgeous the overrun on that thing yesterday's that's probably geeking out a little bit too much but I can go with that uncomfortable geeking only intergrity. Thank you very much. Absolutely alarming dot here all I did my graphics projects. At school on the. On the integral. Lots drawings but then we have to make the end and I couldn't find it integral model. So details restful nineties. Because my drawing site terrible Being able to say better. Yes. The delta. In forty, five. He said that's an incredible story. Spicy, wanting to the Some great drives came three different people on champions in a long long time. Topless Bowl. So that definitely goes through and I think because of that it prevents effectively already from from court making in definitely deserving honorable an honorable mention but instead. If we're talking about rental, 'cause I think the next one all. Guest for some fans, this will be the called into rallying. for thought five, it's Seabury practiser. against the one that's to me. It's double-edged this one because you get you get bonus because the original is pretty cool. But then when they brought the WAC Rose Infra Ninety, seven, I think the the slightly more outrageous version lips brilliant as well. Okay. When a bit. Romo. When we go into the twenty first century as Multiple Challenge but let first models were fantastic to locate and very successful. Yes. Absolutely. The. Old Credit really has to go pro drive as well, and Dave Richards. Just for the look and feel of it I mean I was in Japan and had been in love with rallying full decades prior to and the pressure and. Little by little in increments Japanese manufacturers, it started to make inroads. Starting in Africa and then obviously the European events they started to really get a feel for those. Primarily by employing specialised. Talent steeped in the sport in Europe whether it was ove Andersson An. Obscene, which then brought an extra layer of finish. You never see a pro drive Kava isn't immaculate and. That was very much the ethos of of the team that not blue and gold, which was totally against the usual sort of white and then splash whatever it might be an issue got Martinez sponsor an white. Gold bills and that Meka blue guys know you'll never see the forest but oh, will bright yellow on it then and then Oh, that works and The boxer which made a phenomenal noise. The team was ready to private done well with bullshit they've done well with. Chris six four they done brilliant day with the band w him three and it made sense. This would be the next step in and a partial Subaru would be what carried them to championship glory. The impressive was. Stalking me quick I straight out of the box shutting 'em second on the thousand nights ares that doing his bit and then you come into to the whole era of McRae and science that amazing title battle in in. Ninety. Five. Between the two of them and I think it's quite interesting. The three well Ronnie Jenkins with Impresa were all. Young guys that probably benefited from having that level of professionalism around them to get the job done because I mean A. Bitch bones was always quite a measured considerate person whereas passer and Colin were. Flat out a different thing at life and it needed that sort of structure experience that that the sets up gave them to get the best out of the Subaru. Now. Admitting Prensa Fan. Larry's one major hurdle for it to get through to the end, and this will give you baby indicates if you read. The world rally champions. During this period, you've got comic cry winning in Ninety Five. IMPRESA. Which Burns on impacts a at Solberg in two thousand and three but inbetween it's the Subaru nemeses you gotta run of Makanin titles with Mitsubishi Lancer now. I always. Was Khuda. Colin McRae. Lost probably ninety seven Annan Ti. Everyone always says because he crashed actually also lost quarter a few points to presser unreliability problems and the answer. Always. Always. So if Tony Macken and put the wheel of announcer in a day, it came out on the tree to piece. Really impressive, it would come out with only three on these wagons. So yet the law A. I think he's Khuda. But is there a case to be made for the Mitsubishi Don's revelation series that it was actually the better rally call? This certainly is a case to be made in that sweet spot that they found in the in the mid nineties with it I think that it's because. Rally up compared to pry drive was a very Spitting Sodas operation it was done out of a shed compared to the garage. PRO is working out solve and you've got so much of the focus being on presentation and. Dea was a big positive steering the the ranks wwl. And obviously had a long term interest in in the the health spoke whereas rally out was literally just building 'cause and agree, Bakos all of those winning God's will repay everyone was getting involved a tricky deaths and whatever else and breaking causes lots and they had. Festival brilliant engineering and a Great Leader in Antioch Count and they had told me mackin, an engineering lead driver. was more than up to the job of making what was an anachronism by ninety, seven, Ninety, eight, a well championship winning come and I think that As a driver has molded enough flair and molded enough results to be way up in the fame but he's sort of Andy Rouse in the he will engineer accountable success I. Think he was such a key part of that obviously not rolled out in his post driving so. I think the contribution he was able to make. The the prototype sort of boy band of. Macgregor. Burns, and Solberg. Yes. They will have undenied her talent but but they probably rely more heavily on the engineers Tommy and Tommy is that sort of a character at. The guys that were alongside Tommy maybe didn't make much of an impression. It was it was a small operation sold around him and he was very much integral to how went whereas pro drive is a much bigger operation much flashier how I on the markets ability of the car, the spoiled and of the team and the drivers and everything else whereas out just so turned up and did it and to. The life of Mars analogy if rally mechanic could been knocked on its not six up in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, three, it just don't work as normal at the religious was actually much different ms well. I think it's worth also mentioning because if you look at the very top of wwl so. The impressed on the Lancer reply pain forms as well. We're really the bedrock and faxing some places still are. You look at a national rally he'll. There still is full of escorts with various degrees with multiplication ridiculous engines in them. A impresses announces that I think both very important calls. In modern rallying terms and on GonNa put you on the spot say on very happy that of these has to go through to have fun going to make you pick whether it's the IMPR- Sorolla Lancer. Okay And Stat can go either way and they can be proved to destroy. Go have to go on a statistical basis that no car has had as long frontline career as the impression. The with one, hundred, ninety, two while rallies. It's got more than any other with forty six wins. It's got more than any other even though that's only a twenty only in inverted commas a twenty four percent strike rate. I think and the fact that most people most people wear blue and yellow to attend around eight today than any of the current team covers, I, think, says a loss I think it's got to be Subaru I think on its impact on the sport on a broader commercial level. Because calling McRae. He wouldn't dominated done without Subaru in the same way that we wouldn't have done it without them. So I think that's I. Think on this occasion, the fever does. Does. The humour is to Tony Level of success that the long had. Nonsense. So I'm so impressed cigars three. Now when we're moving onto a car actually did compete against both of those. and. It's another Pirjo. Persia to a six. I think if you think fullwood will coming in with the folks I got McRae through a lot of. The WC. and. Got Beaten by will as a road call is pretty pretty dull looking thing but as a rally car in Marcus Gruden homes hands was a very effective weapon wasn't six. Yes. Yes I mean. I quite liked that Essex Redcar I had one recently was an absolute bargains. Very sorry. Was Kugler but Just different changing world and you're right I mean the reception to the two. I six as ride cop was pretty tepid because everyone was so used to two five blowing their minds evenings the base model. And so yet. This was New Territory coach I needed to jazz it similar up obviously, they had been rallying throughout. With the the the. Taking the three or six maxine which was A. Giant killer Rx salons and so much of the team was still held over from the days of John Top. Two, five, T sixteen. What happened was this sort of alchemy of I mean that engine architecture is the same is to I five six WNYC. It's it's same ex- you block but obviously Two rather things, but it was the GIZMOS and gives melody and the package. Yeah gives Mulji. -nology, and basically this is what former one 'cause we're like in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, two, three. And so had traction control. It had all the tricky dicks. It had. You ever think it was called that really shouldn't have worked because it was so small and you've got Michelle Nunn Dole, he made the Toyota Corolla work. and. Pleasure went looking to again but smaller. Week is the answer and with throwing all these electron exaggerates outer drive of the innate skill of Gronholm. GonNa get somewhere with it and to drivers championships in three years. Thank you very much and Sort of defined where WNYC? Could get to I think I think it was sort of Zenit south of technical achievements in in. Dulcie. Interesting. So does it have the longevity and the six? What's your strike rate stats on the two? Oh. Six strike rates are sixty, four, twenty, four, wins thirty, eight percent. Is Pretty. Good. It's. Fifty. percent of all the titles that could one eight, one, which against that sort of competition. That it was up against in two, thousand, two, three that's not bad guy not a very good call on I think looking at the list of 'cause we've got through to the final all I can't see the toy six defeating some of the calls that we have. the we've put through ready. Up Choice would. So I think the we can fantastic against expectation and sending it on best in the it came off drake as good show would feel on Kelso's now. Other real. W I think today some version, Tom. Oppose. But we'll move on a slightly across the corridor in terms of a French rally cars. Yes. CITRON has to be represented on this list its successes in the twenty first century intrinsically linked to Costa. Sebastian live is incredible record. Had Real difficulty in choosing which of the citizens. Guy For now went for zone. Yet. It was the first one and partly because accosted win change as a deterent tray with low although how privateer that was on league. More experienced knowledgeable rally comments ages to. Also that Sebastian fell off, his bike was missing for half the and still came back and won the championship anyway is. A privacy it that's not bad knobs student. We you happy. should be on here rather than the full or even the day three. because. It really was the concert established to proof of development package. I. Think in that it was as much the driver as it was the cost. Citron who this young gymnasts who had an interest in driving rally cars and everyone neither French drivers were amazing on Asheville but pretty much nowhere on gravel new. His amount bat role you. Just, just his ability. And the way his his craft was honed and supported by at every level from almost day one. I think was very much like Madeira Newest Hamilton is that you have the idea that developing the driver as you develop the car. Was the mentality. So yeah, I mean basically the Zara. It might extremely cold looking rally conference. Dalton's sorts of a bit like a French Capri. which I like. Always. Launch. Version actually I think that was probably the to. Removed for. About two included but yeah, I, think it was a better looking calm. The two sections that follow certainly yet. Yeah and one's event before it beginning with x the Brian. Brown. East up ties. On TV if the fully with rallying, they relied on the that shots himself in in cocktail to to John South Setting. That you got so It was so different to the road because Raikov was. A move blobby thing and the at the rally looked sensational. It was a better optimize package full that old PSA. Tricky diff- synthetics makes everything else that was in the toilet you can pretty much with with few exceptions thrive most of it in unrefined bit. But it was a much better side flow pan to be able to handle all different surfaces than the choices laws without relying on the computers to the out every nano second. and. Of course, you love who came in. The first event incomes the beginning of two, thousand, two particularly and sort of wins. The muncie certainly got public vote I think that ear and if it weren't for. The perishing kids. Spirits are in the back then than he would've copter Monte is on on his WRC proper debut but he was then as possible the sports and. Could be mentioned in the same breath as a science or mccray or McKinnon when they were still not past their prime. And I think that although we may have got. A little bit tired of the level of domination that was to follow in the same way that people do with Schumacher and with Tintri Hamilton Mercedes as well. You know you start to wear it. You welcome a bit but the fact that. The, the level of competition Zara have to beat and that love had to contest with including saint teams him I mean science was sizes still winning now twenty years old. And uncommon he didn't like those because he didn't like all the gizmos in he who's never really at ease in them but. You still got the goes on to beat Colin mcgrane same. Proof of of the whole concept I think that the Centrum. Since in terms of putting through comes actually most because of that because of lives total. If, you took him out. Let's say you block team in the in the fourth especially the folks that kind of it later not she did win the constructs. Championship in. in the middle of the deck keyed would he racked up the site number of tall? He probably would have done. we she's not Shebek smokescreen home. I'll do I greatly as well. Yeah. Almost. More than any other car on this. Nowadays I think that the Zara is associated with one driver. Off of that, it's the opposite to the escort an every man call lots of people drove them different levels, rops so. If we were debating the greatest Lalli draw in the world I think that we would be spending a lot of time talking about thousands. But as a car like I'm struggling to to put through to our final final debates, I think we gotta struggle for modern ones is is my honest answer on that? I think. Probably. we need to put the. One of these last three needs to go through I'm probably more comfortable with the French causing Jim. Who Now? Well, let's go onto end before we make that decision. Odd His oil waste log logam Paulo is pretty cool. Actually a good road I wasn't a cool Roco. F. Rather preferred OJ Polo domination over the lobe citron one, I couldn't really tell you why are. The call it too big. And I think a great show that we didn't get to see their the SUV. Steroids developing for the new era of the also, but probably way fortunate in a way pay because we had really fantastic thoughts the. She as where whereas suspects OJ driven Polo would have continued racking up the torch was in las evaluating. been more open without them. So what's your beef with the Polo? I think it's Passion. And that emotional connection to the sport and its audience, which I just never really soul with Volkswagen I mean. I was on the. Rally tonight in two, thousand, fourteen and twenty fifty and you would expect it to be full of wool brim full of ferry. Happy Germans with a German while championship winning. And it wasn't. It was just drunk. Belgian tearing Neville Fats, those APPs it ain't nobody They existed forty miles away from home. So they can come pitch the tent get accounts Belgian. Lager out on the weekend and they were very very few Germans, paying much attention to the rowdy going on and. I think. It's sort of that. Clinical nature to it it was a time when. Folded, rolled back as a as a works. Entrance Novus EM's boop worked wonders. With foreigners, the sponsor. But it is a privateer team citreon was. Sitting on his home Jizan letting love do the do the hard work for them? And they developed the s three which was. A car. Did development work it was expected to Oj, expecting love to step back after the sequel era and show you can't win any more than that and Oj's this car, and then what happens doesn't beat socio and Ajay visit toys out the drama guys join Volkswagen and Volkswagen has this supercars they are developing. And Gas Okay. It is that it is a supercar. It doesn't have the same level of competition against it that the puzzle description had. Tried to that. It does have the greatest of era of drivers in the car back talk obviously with the. Admirable talents of of Yari Matti. In particular and we'll followed his. Path, to salvation on asphalt particularly. He was always preoccupied by getting up to speed on our spout, getting close to the and then finally ended bait him. I think that was probably the highlight for me of the pilot. was. Gary. He got that s probably. Not Feeling of. Not Fitting in that that's I think that's a very yeah I. think that's a fair enough. All human would decide before I. Let guy the pilot Compla- is it would be Ryan Science got the best strike rate of any car on this list yes it is one hundred percent full titles yes and it must eighties or maybe knowing wins eighty, two, fifty, one rallies for two minutes. percent that's. Yes. Statistics if we let ourselves be led by statistics than yes. Obviously it's it's it's remarkable and no manufacturer has ever done. Since yet but. I think statistics were good guide. It's like the only thing we wouldn't be having these debates. Now live. From the modern era then and let's say the twenty first century will put the. WAC through to the final. So at the moment, our fondest all the Lancy Strauss toss the Ford escort, Audi Quattro if tebow sixteen Lonsdale to integral in Subaru. Impreza and. Zora before we all about those in a funnel winner are just did want to mention a couple of calls upon one nothing is a fantastic piece of kit but I of thought is almost a priest Straw or Strauss intends to specialists starting Robin Bell. The past have caught impact. You'll see he of course, you mentioned the guy even further back but are there any ALVA calls the using? We should strive we've not mentioned any solves massive favor I SOBS Who I'm better than any calls that you? Mentioned, before we pick a winner. I think. Myself. I'd always put a sleeker in there. I think probably the the second generation of the one, eight five. At full for me is just again, it's kind of a a COO COO. It did it's bit. and. It. Effectively brought an end to the integrality era I think an ushered the way in for the the full Japanese assault that. To come. So I think that that should be a toy drin-. People outside dedicated to particular 'cause that this is going to be such an interesting. Subject to see rollout in this country six full. As, got such a following. About the heroic British failure that really. Really is a fantastic sounding thing ridiculous licking the law. I don't went on the very good career of some of these calls actually time good craze in in Rallycross of goals in the six awful was setting. One of is, but I think been up against this on a low position. It say would very, we'll be a colloquial decision I. Think. Role, in the hill listed Kwan but definitely. Getting, getting a mentioned in there. So I guess we need to start. Knocking. Some of these cars out or do you just have one you WANNA pitch is being vast choice perhaps a to that we can. We can all give out. On how failing Mr Editor? What's what's so what would your leaning at this moment? You put me on the spot on the basis that. The I've been. Doing that you all the way through. My favorite call. If I had if I had to own one, if you go model one behind you is is nausea integral. that that argest combination of success and the coolness I really liked. But I, don't think it's enough of the game changer look at that fantastic read multi delivery as well. Oh. Estate once didn't it did on the on the sand one. Yeah. But the MOMS I'm struggling state policies the adequate try on the turbine the. Do Take your point that. Might have been of a dog's dinner of Toronto. Has Cavaliers, but I think as A. Of their own. Decision Making and frankly brilliant votes are all due regard radio on the people I'm having that argument. with with special. Be About. Bob. Huge Fan of roles of massive massive. As as a human being as much as anything I, think he's he's just an example of what spokesman should be. Opting Without without vice fats the I sherwood on more. What was. On the court try did you have that stats? Death I do have that stat. It's IT, was. Only come into these things with the light of paper and stats. Very, very nice somebody else's coming within this to manufacturer championships two drivers championships forty percent. Davidge does championships sixty five rallies, twenty-three wins, thirty five cents wanting the ass bass pretty impressive as well. So all. I'm strongest say Pasta Pasta Katcher on the basis of rallying familiar with different off to college and it had been before and. So That really get my vote, but you are rally expert. So I'm happy to hear a counter argument. Okay. my head agrees with you. In that, it should be the quattro. Because The strike way was incredible full the time the car itself Cetinje in long wheelbase full was remarkable. Capable remarkable for the wrong reasons in insured wheelbase full. But fundamentally proof of concept four-wheel-drive survey charged is the way for with nothing else is. Ever since so yes, we will. So the head says this one sensible German. Bought My Choice. Seventies giant. Gods to be sideways. It's got to be that feeling when you drive to the supermarket probably to work in a supermarket, your car is the same that Ari in just WanNa rally with our think that. It is what it is and That love of the sport has been transmitted to generation after generation by the school. And it was the product partly of of my great heroes and power and. Certainly, the way it was run and marketed had here. Peter. And stood. Gutless as he did legendary performances in a car, which still for a modern WNYC driver remains the you need to have in your garage dreams. It's a strong case and just add the white your argument. Multiple News and which are used to work for and formalize and has a as strong rallying fellowship. Following. A. Vote on the greatest competition cartridge readers, and the read is did pick the Ford escort. which I always put down to most news readers being. Good. Case right there. Mark my reservation, all not easy. It is I think one more championships yet seventies. I think because it's such an important car in terms of the numbers of people that drive it in the fattest it around the same argument is we might impression the Lancer. I'm just reluctant SIP protocol that will one seventeen of eighty-seven events and Mocking, North Championships Yeah also. So I'M GONNA throw in this extra one for the Quattro Pike's peak. Which? Is a phenomenal event. Is when it cools haven't been paid jet yeah and Batman One one, one wheel on one. The other one protecting his is drive in six hundred horsepower. Every was probably more actually the bottom. and. I think he's just is the epitome of Roddy. Cool. Really so Did. You see the the areas of. COVID message to the. Public. Did Not. What did he say? He's got his road car on his drive and the sun was coming into the windscreen. So I put his crush on did that drive back five feet forward and stopping went stay at home. Is just perfect. I mean he someone we could spend many podcasts to oh. Yes. Of course. What your heart said that one my heart said that one and it sounds like we're agreeing that actually heads wing. Think. Yes I. Think. Is. That is, can you can you? Never, appear on a plaque up. I can deal with that if. We can do that. Yeah. Yeah. We become one of your books then. Well do you know it just so happens? Ta. Now. The throw rally cow exactly. Yes. I am Guy. I. Would have been unfair not to mention I think. Moayad written a book about. So I think that's very admirable. What we can say I think we're, GONNA. Not Reluctantly because we've got a fantastic arrive, 'cause he's one of the holidays debates. I think we've done. Seifollah. Really. Looking to the nation of Islam loving the. For example. Just company. As, as multi bring a Great Lakes I'm going to do this with the. Done this she said, I think I think punditry does deserve. You know at least one, forty, two thirds. Yes on the one. That's the other ones not big. Guy Off pace here. Again. The begun to conclude by saying that Sam site the the the the most fever rally caused that we lock the escort, the integral, but the old sports, seventy grains Carpool time is the Audi quattro south side. Let us know what you think. Concession Media I'm sure there'll be lots of color mccray in particularly just be shouts and. We're not going to be allowed out of the House for about six months with them and probably some Lancia fans as well because it hasn't won this contest even though you really do so stay with we've rallying. Senate for many many years So yeah let's now on social media will you can even email us at. Dot Com. Please don't be too aggressive. It was a fun. And I thought I'd like to finish by thanking the listener. Thank you the listener cheating in hugged had so much. and. Thank you to Nick Gone News. Knowledge, Azam. Sean through June I'm joined the modern asylum. Thank you very much. Thank you. 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Travis Pastrana

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

1:38:13 hr | 2 months ago

Travis Pastrana

"Were Ha. We're alive will come welcome. Welcome Armchair expert I'm Dan Sheppard joined by Monica Pastrana. I gotTa tell you guys. This is one of the most exciting folks I could talk to period in Monica God. Bless you. You did your best to hang in there. and Luckily Travis is cute I got through a lot. This very very interesting. He lives a life that I would greatly ever. And it's fascinating. Just jump into those people's worlds. Yeah, YOU KNOW TRAVIS! Pastrana's one of these guys who I decide allies. He has done every single thing. A human being can do on a motorcycle in a rally car in the NASCAR and I eat backflip does a monster truck one time? He is an extreme motor sports daredevil, but I will say there are themes in this that transcend. Transcend that that are very interesting, so if you're motorsports, isn't your bag? Don't worry I. think that we get into life themes, her share pretty profoundly, and I think it's really eliminating to hear how someone like Travis thinks approaches his work, his job, the risk how we ended up doing it. It's all very very fascinating to me and he's just a gem of human being sweet boy. He's a seventeen time x games medalist and he's a five times north. American rally champion. He is the CO founder of nitro circus nitro world, games and NITRO rallycross Travis's new venture is called circuit one, nine, nine, a future state of the art racing facility, motorsports, Park and entertainment venue where everyone from beginners to tier one athletes can pursue their passions and progress as safely as possible. You ask a question. What is rally rally is a type of racing. That doesn't happen on a paved track. It happens in the woods most often or in Sweden. It happens in the snowy woods, or it happens along mountain trails and cars. Racing over jumps turns always with a very death defying element because you're racing within the trees. There's no run off so if you crash, you're crashing into a tree at speed. Is it still made like? Is it still a made track? It's just outdoors in the elements. Yes, there's like a path cleared through the forest race on e.. It's incredible. All right well, that's helpful. Yeah, let's get into it. Travis Pastrana? Is Motorsport Scott on earth? Please enjoy this cute boy from Maryland. We are supported by Word Love I'm wearing a third love. What timing well third love believes that every woman deserves to feel comfortable and confident every day. Do you feel comfortable and confident? And ACTUA- Omega shows the right kind of support. They help her do this. Their bras are designed to fit you not the other way around design with measurements for millions of women, their bras styles are made to fit your life. 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A passing. Your was. Your is your hand. Up, Oh, well, it has healed, but now I have like a fifth knuckle on just the Tomlin my hand. Do you have a few of those? What is the what seems to be the fragile points of your body? shoulders knees for sure ankles. Now see when you start racing most Gaza. Gumby you end up on your feet, and you break your ankles, and then when they break, then you start your knees, and then you start breaking back. Kind of works its way health. You're so right in by the way you're explaining something that my wife witnessed on Saturday, which was I was on roller skates and I went to. To sit down and I realized well. Both my rhys are shot so I can't put my hands behind me to sit down and then I thought I'm going to have to make fisk because that's generally like five to push up. That's what I gotTa do this. Wise, right my left versus few so when I fall over like you trip up the steps and you just take it to the shorter because. Look at I've even had your life, but that is where I met where my wife was watching. We tried to sit down roller skates, and I just had to commit and just drop onto my tailbone, because I can't I can't break my phone. And I was thinking. Yeah. These injuries are starting to roll downhill. Fuck up other things. Without so I actually I had a growth spurt at twelve years old I broke both wrists, and I came back literally my mom had white me because I had to full arm cast I, came back and broke my left wrist, and my left collarbone, unlike the I ride back, and then I will my knee and I was like okay. Whatever you do, I just got back on the bike. Just don't land on your wrist. Don't let this. And I sat back on it and I broke my back. I'll take the risk you know. One of those things. Well, I kind of I used to his ally and got God. I haven't and longtime cross my mind if it goes down at this point I. Don't know how deep into the before everything's just broke. Like even about winning items are I can't hit you anymore because everything's broke now. SIDEBAR. Sorry, I'm sorry, but it does cross my mind so okay, so you're an interesting guests for us because our listeners arm, cherries are predominantly female and so I'm going to gender stereotypes now. I doubt. Many of them love Nitro, circus, or motocross or many things. You and I love. We're like eighty. Five percent young fails probably exact opposite viewership. If you could team up if we could like. Converge the nitro Circus and Jerry Army it would be really amazing, and these para perfectly could find mates because you know what I'm saying that the numbers are there. Okay, so what I want to say is, they'll be a bunch of sports talk, but much bigger themes in your life that I think are very interesting themes that people really enjoy so I have theories about you and I'm going to test them. Let's start at the beginning travis. Where were you born? and. Was it pretty rural where you got brought home from the hospital? So an atlas is actually the capital, Berlin, but it's definitely a smaller city, so yeah. The Naval Academy Lot, Armed Forces there for sure definitely, my dad was military pretty much everyone in that area I want grownup became a navy seal so when you grew up with your dad being a drill sergeant in the ring tour. It's pretty strict regiment. Even, though that Bam wasn't too far away. We grew up completely different copy more. Culture! Skater cater my wife Lindsey She's a skater, but like they were you know. Get up the tracking noon and. If I, slept till seven hundred the weekend, I, was lazy pilot traps, so get up at the crack near well. That's all the Talian to these different themes, because you've avoided some pretty well worn traps at a lot of folks fall into both in what you do and what I do I fell into them. You appear to have not fallen into them, but I was wondering. Were you in a suburb like we're you somewhere where you could write dirt bike as a? A child, so my dad has fiber others, and they had a construction company so really small construction company, but basically my grandma lived right next to us. My Dad's uncle lived right next to him and his brother liver to him, and then they rented the next house out the Olympia. My cousin, so we all live on basically as Elliot Road, which is my grandma's maiden name, and in the back was basically the shop where we had bob cats and San Piles and. All the time for moving all the different types of dirt's on top of each other because they made forget jumps. Klay with the sand kind of deal, but it was good child. What age did you get set on a dirt bike sauce for years old ride their bikes, but we rode go-carts from Asia to and it was a pretty redneck upbringing. Considering s kind of city. If you will, so you're the kid I would have befriended a Michigan. To have access to all your sweet shit. I wanted all that ship, but we were to broke in fact. Fact One of my good buddies. His Dad was a mason, and so they had some shit. You know they had some property and they had some dirt bikes and I lived there, because of that all amount, basically they all hot rods. They loved everything and we just found up from ages of like ten eleven twelve since we could reach the pedals in the steering wheel. Go Round Up. Do Whatever we paper routes whenever we had to do to get like a two hundred dollar car from the junkyard, and then just make it run. Going flips tree. Get it running again and then I save money again and make it happen, so we had a little different childhood than the most people but My uncles. There's a really close knit family. We didn't have a lot of money for sure like everything was hand-me-downs and ten years old and broken and everything, but It was kind of A. Way To grow a lot of cousins and. Uncles too crazy stuff all the time. Do you have siblings? Now only shall, we could have never afforded racing with more. I was just GonNa. Say That helps big time so when you got in the dirt bike, would you say and we will not interpret this as bragging, but was it just a very natural fit for me from the get? I was facing the run to my family, and my uncle was quarterback in Denver, Broncos all American lacrosse wrestling. My grandfather was sold boxer. The navy and I didn't get any. If that I couldn't throw catch hit on, I got beat up all the time. You know for giving football games. It was basically like yeah. Your five year old female cousin year. Yeah exactly. I found the only way to really fit in with. My family was to have a motor. 'cause I couldn't do with my own physical power. Yeah, so. How can I jump off a bridge? How many flips can I do and how fast that Chris, my right wrist? All my so this is fantastic. Yeah, I was never good at soccer wasn't good at any of these things, but like BMX bike came around, and I would hit the double, and then I'd hit the. I thought Oh. This device can make me the athlete I want like this thing can deliver on what I wish I was. My greatest strength is the willingness and kind of that understanding like calculating risk like okay, can I make it? And what are the odds? This is gonNA. Work crashed more than most people have had more injuries than than pretty much anyone else out there. What? That's how I made clear. Now we've gone this quarantine and all this stuff is sim racing like man. You really bad on this I'm like no. They took away all of my edge. No one's you free crisis simulator. Okay, but and this'll be again. A theme that recurs which is. Certainly, you had a really high tolerance for fear. There's probably something wrong in your head. Remember reading and reading in psychology that people who are are risk-takers like they don't have 'em Mayo in their brain like people with a ton of emo. They're satisfied watching the grass grow, but people none. Their brains are dad. Unless there. There's a threat of death, but you had on top of that a crazy gift on a motorcycle. What did you start racing racing for four years old, so yep, Oh, you have racing at that age. Yep, got my life everyone on the family of motorcycles. My mom even start racing when I started racing, so was it was Pretty Fun Oh. Wow, and then when you win your first championships, so. So First Amateur National Championship was ten years old, so then at one five Msu national championships, and then first X. Games will won the world. Freestyle Championship because it was a new sport. You know when you start with something. That's they haven't done for a long time. You're still kind of everyone's learning together, so it's it's a easier for someone that's younger or hasn't been on a bike. As much to really get into timing was definitely on my side, so won the world championships support team, but it really wasn't a sport at that time. It was kind of like the guys that weren't good enough to race. motocross played around. In general guys seem to be either crazy. Great Racers, or they were really good free style, and certainly maybe there was overlap, but you actually won the won twenty five when you are. That's when you were seven yes. Yes, Sixteen! Sixteen, so you're the fastest man in the world on a one twenty five at sixteen I Charlie. Asks The X. Games the very first, Games is that ninety nine. Fifteen years old, and you win the freestyle competition, which is where you're doing stunts. You're jumping up enormous jumps in. You're doing tricks and you get at that time, which still stands you get ninety nine. Right you just you decimate the competition and you're in your like sixteen, so here's where I start noticing you I guess if you're you're sixteen hours probably like twenty four or something, and it was very exciting that you were both that and you are the current champion on one twenty five. I thought Oh. This doesn't really happen. This kid's really phenom I'm really excited about this. person as was everybody in the motor sports, world and we're doing. Doing all your tricks on a one twenty five and everyone else's on a to fifty it. Yeah, for sure so it definitely. What sounded louder didn't go as fast Beta noise have a lot of aggression now I mean that's basically my whole life. My Dad said look your uncle was. The greatest athlete might have ever come out of Maryland. And he still working construction, the summer and teaching in our community college health to seniors and the COM- coach fee for Lacrosse and football I said. Look any day that you can do what you love to do. Bride that train, so the wheels fall off, but you're always gonNA network with us so. I was like data like mom I. WanNa do that and they're like well. You know just have fun as long as you're having fun and you're getting good grades. Go ahead and it never stopped so it sounds like you were born in at the very perfect family to pursue what you pursued, but did they wrestle when you started doing freestyle, they start getting scared and where they expressing that at all to you, because people are not yet, but people shortly thereafter start getting very very hurt doing this like. Don't walk again and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean it was definitely tougher on at eighteen I'm back looking into the Grand Canyon with parachute and. All this kind of I took a lot of hard left's of throughout throughout my career. But at the end of the day. My mom I think when she realized that it meant that much I dislocated my basically, my pelvis shattered and my spine just pretty much went. If you will out of it, yeah, it was bad I love! My blood volume. I just kept passing out. Pass out every time. They tried to move me. I passed out so I got hurt in Havasu and I ended up flying to L.. A., we'll come two weeks later. Almost died basically one white stunt was that in have us all I was just I just didn't fast enough was trying to make a jump on a freestyle, and I tried to jump to jumps, and I went one hundred fifteen feet, running the one hundred twenty fifth all. For Monica. We should have given you like Zanex for this. Okay, so did mom all you like? I'm so glad on fire for this and passionate, but she still present has to say like be careful. Even have the big switch on your. Back your. I mean at this point, so my parents had sold the boat. That's why you're on the weekends. And now motorcycles was what they did. All my uncles that were construction have actually taken pay cuts to cover our fuel to the races. We had awesome sponsors that even though you can't pay amateurs. They were basically helping us in any way. They could as friends to be like okay. You need a new bike for the national championships like you have to have this and just really the community. The family everybody came around to. To, support me doing this, and but my mom's like you know the chance of you making anything as far as financial in sports want to give you the opportunity to go as far as you want. But when I hurt myself there and I woke up literally two weeks later and coming out of the medically abuse and she said. Are you sure this which you wanna do I said mom would rather get I want to do that job. It's like that was two weeks ago and I know that sounds horrible idea. Sounds like you're really lucky to walk again. You're going to be a wheelchair for the next. You know five months. Let's think about your education. Let's get away from dirt bikes, and even that moment in all that pain. All I WANNA do is get back on the dirt bike and she's like well. If you love it this much, you can't take your life away from you as much as. I think it's very hard for people to understand who don't have hobbies that are really dangerous, but maybe this isn't true for you, but for some people they'd rather not be here I mean for some people. If they can't serve big waves, they'd rather just call it. You know that's what they want to do, and that might shorten their time here, but that's how they want to spend that time here. It's hard to comprehend if that's not your jam I. Think if you don't have anything that you truly love that is. Is it sounds silly to say some things worth dying for like nobody wants to die, but a lot of people never live, and that's kind of the thing is like. What are you willing to sacrifice to have the best life that you possibly can and one of my heroes Matt Hoffman so live to happy, so whatever happens every single day? You live so that if the world ended the next day you died, not feeling like you wondered if you could have been better could've done. More could have done something man. It's like great risk reward. Everything Matt Hoffman, so people know he's basically the U. OF BMX bikes. He was the pioneer. He was the guy that started everything I X. Games. He won the the vert. This guy that was going forty foot up. He was pronounced dead it. Completely out for like two minutes, and they brought him back this a guy that came out. He couldn't get surgery to fix what you need to do. In the US, such four X Games, he wanted to attract no handed nine hundred. No one else that ever done it. He knew he could do it. He was dialed in hurt himself, so he goes to Canada and they said look. We can't put you under because that would technically be a surgery, but we can do this procedure as long as it's not. A surgery. Yeah, you drill drilled through. They like you can't femur and Tibia and everything. They played it everything and put some synthetic ligaments in there, and he went and landed. The first ever had nine hundred. So that's something to say like. That's how much he wanted to do this. And it's something that not many people can grasp, but yeah okay, so first of all married I just want to warn you well. That's actually what I'm getting. Getting at this is part of it so when you have this thing, you love so much that you'll sacrifice essentially your life for. Do you have close relationships with other people along this time? Because I feel like as soon as somebody else close comes in. You feel like you owe them a little bit of you of your life so that when you put yourself at risk. Isn't that scarier or does that make it harder to do? Risk reward always changes. If you're fifteen years old, you've got nothing nothing to lose, but you've got a lot more to gain. I haven't won X Games. I haven't done this. I need to prove and even if you don't, that's how you feel as you're young, you're fired up. You're like I need to. I have to land this trip. I have to set myself on the stage. You don't have a wife or girlfriend or kids, but everyone says how can you keep doing this stuff when you have kids as well? I've trashed a lot and that calculated risk to say what is worth it. What is going to show my kids that you gotta go out? You've gotta work hard. You gotTa Chase Your Dreams. You gotta live your life to the fullest, but you gotTA. Keep living, you know you. Can't tapis excessive risk, so it is Josh. Ian Triple back flip this guy. He's actually almost my age, but no wife. No kids and I work in a triple backflip pretty much since the double backflip in two thousand six really just gotTa say Travis was the first person in the event to backflip a motorcycle twice in Lau. Yep, so so that was about forty feet above the ground or fifty feet now they're going a hundred feet above the ground. The take off that we had. We worked with Thomas J and all the Red Bull Nitro, and we had gone through so much money and so much time in so many injuries trying to figure out how to get the motorcycle. That's two hundred fifty pounds to spin three times not slow down waiting the rear wheels, trying all different things, and can I pause you for one second? Imagine because the red. Bull Bank is the fucking best in motorsports so. There I m assuming there's like physicists engineers working on this at this point right I mean there's a real think tank is not you and your fucking Yoko buddies going like? How do we get a third rotation out of this? The problem is most of the think. Tanks don't work, it's. Smart people aren't smart, but in our stuff like it comes down to. It's a feel that you know people that you don't feel something. You don't really understand it, so we finally figured out how to get three around, but now I'm at about one hundred and ten feet in the air, my landings about. AIRBAG, which is still sixty feet below me and I mean so Jesse and he was pinball blood I've got a couple of broken ribs and s to the airbag. That's the safest thing you could possibly do. I was scared going to the air back and I had to stop 'em picking if I'm scared going airbag. What makes me think that when this landing wooden landing sixty foot tall going? Sixty feet above that like what makes me think that I'm going to have the mental capacity to commit to this and like you said you're thinking what what if I get her? What if I would my my wife, my kids and as? Soon as you start thinking about that, you realize that you're in over your head whether you are, you're not if you're thinking of anything, but that trick in that moment you're going to get hurt. And that was my first time that I thought my job is no longer to to be the guy push limit. My job is to help these guys that are pushing the limit. Do it and get back to their families. Dude. Okay, so you're bringing up a great point. Okay, so I ride motorcycles. Go I go to the track every time I ken to race motorcycles and increasingly I'm having the debate while it's going on. Do you have the debate like I'll be doing something, and I'm loving it because you know with the two kids and everything else. I'm just Kinda, like look I love so much, but then it crosses my mind what my kids will be like without a Dad Dad. They knew for seven years. Years and I'm like God. How much do I love? It trickles in a lot more for me. In the last couple years now without a doubt I was riding my harley the other day just backwards like just cruising and I saw deer on the side of the road, just Maryland a lot of deer and I. I was scared all the way back. I'm like how stupid would this be I'm writing speed limit cruising. I guess like can I do this. Can I keep riding that still safe? And then I was going to pick up my daughter and I'm like. Can I have her on the back of this I'm I'm a good but like. Jumps out and runs us over like what I don't know Yeah, okay, so our somewhere where we really need to be which is I have this ethical thing and I really WanNa know 'cause so you? You have a daughter added. That's the exact same age as Lincoln and I kind of been tracking you a little bit because I. Put Lincoln on an electric dirt bike like just before four th birthday and she got good at little razor, and she's fucking baller in the razor yet. The little one seventy. Yes, and I can see the calmness when shit comes up into my. Oh, she's got it. She's got the thing. Everything can be upside down and she's still thinking calmly. She's got it and it fills me with such delight so I imagine. Addie your daughter. She must be doing all this stuff to. The same thing that one seventy. Now, she's on dirt bikes, but it's funny because I have two daughters, and my oldest was adding I don't know how different your kids are, but my oldest addy comes out and she was crying unless you had her in the air, she had to be in the air. She had to be moving. She started walking. G needed to be going somewhere. Doing something travis my kids new silent. She knew sign language before she could talk right and I. Hope this rope up to this little car. She said all day long and I started swinging it around in the driveway in your video is so scary it now in the moment. It felt right, but the video is. She's she's just. She's going. She has to be hitting thirty right. And then stop and it's on video and the first thing he does put her fingers together. which is more more more, more, more, yeah? Saint same thing. But with with Addie. Is the second. No matter what's going wrong. She smiles as it goes more sideways as the steps out as she over jumps our youngest. She was the happiest baby, but if you throw in, the air was crying. He's always saying slowdown. Our oldest is more and more and more faster faster faster our youngest since day. One like they raised in the same. I think like slower. Don't like heights. Don't WANNA go fast. Let's I wanNA drive with mom. You know dude. Act same story just last night driving a mini van Hollen the one on one, and I got fucking Lincoln saying go faster and Delta saying slowdown so interestingly enough our oldest crazy one never gets hurt. She's arise flying through the air, and she tumbles, and she just roll with the punches. Our youngest one doesn't do hardly anything, and then she. She was sliding down the steps and she got scared. She put all her feet out and everything in the ended up flipping and she's not. That's why I don't do this stuff. I'm like you know what. Pants you're you're right. If you panic your worst fears, world come true. First of all I can't stand for one have never had an interest in it, but I watched this Netflix's meal one show. Have you seen it will do I have always been like such a big F once again. All of a sudden a Netflix now. Everyone's talking Oh. Yes, you see this I'm like no. Guy I'm the poser for sure I was like I don't know. They never pass Blah Blah Blah whatever phenomenal and then I said to my wife I'm like I gotta get Lincoln in a car like yesterday or see can never be in route to being a formula driver. And then I played the whole thing out, and I was like God I'd be so proud and then I. thought what if my fucking daughter died in some fucking ridiculous hobby? I kind of forced a not even force. She just would. Because she loves me probably, I can't tell when she's doing something for me. Yeah, she loves IT I. How how? No, and I JUST THOUGHT FUCK! Is that the path I wanna put her on, so you have a daughter. She would definitely be the heir apparent. She could probably be the best female motorcycle rider of all time. What are your thoughts about that? Could you see her go through all the injuries you've gone through? Through as a father people say. Would you want your kids to do? Whatever makes them happy? There's no amount of money in the world worth going through the injuries that I've done, but I would have paid every single dime. Every dollar given up. Everything to have had the opportunity to live the life that I have because I love it so whatever they're passionate about and I hope it's not motocross I hope it is cars. Safer and safer. Both of my daughters I want them to be competent on a motorcycle, but I hope they don't love his. I did yeah some just crossed my mind because you're so immersed in X. Games and all this different branding stuff. Do they tell you like? Stay away from that shit and ain't everyone back over here at the end of the day like? Kind of now my job is going through campaign and stuff and trying to figure out what the head injury. When we're going to come out, football said okay like let's let's figure out how you know. There's guys that knocked themselves out almost every night. These thing there had mike okay, so is a serious as knots like as someone. That's giving them the opportunity to do it to themselves to travel around the world living a dream like when we have to say you know because doctors look, they look okay. Look no this I know him. He's not all right, or she's not a right or whatever so trying to figure out what is good or bad. I guess, yeah, well. It's very weird. RIGHT TO TRANSITION SHIT! Someone here has got to be the parent and that's now me, which is such a weird role. I'm not used to that, but I gotta take that because that is the role now yeah, so the brothers they were quad racers, and they went, and they start winning X. Games both from the gold medals. Him, Caleb ended up passing away. The key got up and walked out with just the internal. That is so heavy. Yeah, and there's been a couple of freestyle motocross. Mike thing right now is trying. Trying to get where you know Kelly Nascar putting safer barriers after earnhardt like you'd Never GonNa get away from the potential, but let's make it so that you get away with ninety percent more yet. The jumps are going to be bigger. You'RE GONNA. Go Faster. You're going to be strong or you going to do more stuff, but let's make the landings, so you can roll out a little bit, you know. I think and I. Don't know the history of it, so, but you've pioneered a couple things right so the foam pit I at least I had never seen the foam pit, so so he started practicing where he practices amazing backflips and Shit and lands in this enormous container full of Foam squares. Did you make that up Gary Hart actually? Woodward Woodward as a camp start on the east coast. Now it's all over the world. Even have a hard rock hotels and stuff, but basically they have all the best athletes and the most progressive training facility, so he started out with gymnastics. Have so many Libyans that goes through there, and then moved to skateboards and be a maximum. They took all the gymnastic stuff and basically rolled it out over to that saw are really quick because the state champion cheerleaders so just. So I've tumbled into a foam pit many times. They champ over here so you guys are both I've. I've never wanted any second place BMX racing? That's the mental. Okay well, technically just going to be a hard left, but cheer so I. Am now. It's your dad. Did I. Tell You what I've been throwing our girls in the air since day one and you know they can do back flips oh my my oldest. She's a flyer. Wasn't as flexible as you need to be right away to get in there, but she's been working hard and they're like well. You're you're you're? The youngest one is not much. You can do backflips, so yeah, that's pretty much over. Restraining you're. An acting sports athlete, but I was really just training to be a flyer. Cheer so. It's a fun world. Did you I assume you watched. Cheer on Netflix because I watched it and I was like this is crazy. They're not taking any precautions that football does, and these girls are getting concussions like. Why does anyone give a shit about these girls? Put A fucking helmet on one train I dunno stay tuned for more armchair. If, you dare. We are supported by NBC Peacock Peacock is the news streaming service from NBC Universal Great. Entertainment is finally free. It's got hundreds of hit movies. Thousands of episodes of your favorites, current shows, timeless classics, timely updates and best of all it is free now, guys. 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There's been a lot of them that have gone up in flames. To make it safer. We started going to air bags. Now airbags. It's a soft landing. You don't get stuck upside down with gas pouring on you and. On fire with dislocated shoulder or whatever my mom broke her neck into our foam pit. No, she was the first. She was fine. She was off. LINE FRACTION Imagine. Now even with the triple back, flip and stuff we had to figure out a way to take the bag rough bag the landing bag. helps so you can actually get a feel of where the landings going to be and because when flat you have to rotate or under rotate depending on what direction you're spinning or whatnot, so the more we can make towards the landing better and now with BMX join Olympics and you have all the snowboarding and everything else. Every Olympic, the countries were coming to nature circus after we figure that thing out of the triple and they were like okay. How did you make a bag? That was a landing bag. How does how does it go on Shirley that's gotTa? Be Quite challenging. Yeah, I mean it wasn't too challenging. But it just when you haven't seen it before, it hasn't been done and just in the last two years, the progression of the safety of the bag jump eggs, and all the other companies that are coming out there so good, and he really didn't need as as deep as we thought we did like you just need. It's like when you're doing a bench. Press or something, and like you know, someone puts a pinkie on there and the it gets the rest the way. You! Don't you don't need a lot to protect you from a really bad injury. The only problem with the landing bags is the head because your your body. If as long as everything's tucked in, you can draw some pretty high. If your landing fairly flat on your stomach or your back, you know little limb out. You're going to break, and your head usually gets slapped pretty hard to the back so like motocross had a really low can see probability and that kind of stuff, because usually if you have hard enough to be knocked out, you something else broken so what we found was that the safer that we're making it for. Your body is actually making it. It potentially more problems down the road because you'll trash up nine ten twenty times, and you'll be able to keep getting back up and you generally trash the trick the same way, so it hits the same spot. Every thing that you think you're doing better. Choice has a consequence on the other side. Yeah, your body's an equation and you're like. Yeah, you're bolstering one end and then now. This is a weak point. Okay, so you're just an all time legend. We've also built this incredible empire. You're winning next games, your fucking jumping and flipping everything you could possibly do, and then you create a TV show nitrous circus with a lot of the Jackass folks and. The pilot if I recall and I told you about this Monica one time. You almost threw up the pilot. You meet Travis on this show. He's in an airplane up in the air and he says hey. I'm Travis Pastrana and this is nitro circus. He's in board shorts and no fucking shirt. Any jumps out of an airplane. God. Do. I have that right either by. Fail those tests were always the best. It was actually it was a rebel tests. It gives you wings I was just checking. Okay so I'm watching that and this is the first time I've now been. Put in the seat of like your mother or I'm like no, no, no I love. Travis Rana he is a motorsports, phenom him jumping on fucking airplane with no parachute. He just dives out of the airplane, and then he meets another in the air, and he puts on a fucking parachute, and then opens it lands safely. Yet and you can't practice skew well so I'm not a great skydiver like I got my. Which is like you? Be Dinner License. Learner's permit I mean I. Get around, fine I. It's like Moose things. Yeah I mean that's the best part about Chevy skydiving the second you step off the bridge or building or plane. You're going as fast as anyone else can go so. GonNa figure it out from there, but so I jumped up. I tried to get away from these guys. I was doing everything that I could to basically play tag assuming that they were. Trying to run, and they basically tackled me out of the sky, and they just hooked up to the Horse, okay. So the the guys are guys or girls. Whoever chased after you in the Air I presume hopefully they were some of the best in the world skydiving I found a military guy and I figure military. They'd never leaving behind so like I should be all right. We'll be great. Scene makes sense, but at the same time they don't. Like yeah can jump out because the military has never left behind. Okay, that is a true statement, but this is I don't know that it applies here. So. I just I just remember I remember thinking okay, if you found my threshold I now Matt, you because I want you to stay alive because I love watching. You do shit, but I don't want you jumping out of fucking airplanes. All of them are scary. But within their. If you love this stuff and I do, there's all this strata of actual danger. Right so these wing suits are so fucking dangerous. They get in these suits, and they have kind of wings from your wrist down, and they jump off a mountain and they fly. Making, go really really really fast it yeah, it's like Flying Squirrel, but the problem is not problem in the proximity fly because you could fly right down the mountains through tunnels through. The, it's amazing. The precision of these guys have. Where my wife's drew the line, so I was starting to think about she goes. Look, you always have to do a little bit more a little bit further. She's like you don't practice enough to be competent enough. That makes sense and I fully agree, but you can do things safely. The problem is most of the people that are risk-takers that are doing that. There are going to be proximity flying. You're not going to say hey I'm not gonNA go further or closer next time. I'M NOT GONNA. Go faster next time. We're not gonNA. Push myself harder and eventually with that. It's not you don't break a wrist when you find the limit is to. One of those guys disintegrated friend. They were flying and they were gonNA fly through these cables of a bridge. All these people gathered to watch. One guy caught a cable and literally dematerialize. There was nothing left of this guy. So, one of my best friends Eric Runner. He was always kind of our voice of reason like he was father of two kids swipe. Just an amazing family, amazing human being was a skier basis main thing but Shane mcconnachie, who also passed away from the same area they started ski base, jumping and that kind of stuff, and out of all this nothing Eric Rohner did and all the stuff that Shane McCarthy did they both died on things that I'm not saying they're routine, but they were very very minimal risk, so that put things in perspective for me to say like hey, sometimes things just go wrong young when you're in those sports. It doesn't really matter how good you are. If you're pushing yourself if something goes wrong, this outside of your control. mccown skied in his binding, didn't. Yeah now. Here's a question I. Have for you because I'm regularly in situations where it's attract a, we're all writing. And that dude crashes. And I'm like you know you go through this whole thing. It's like. Oh, he just crash. Okay. That could happen to me and then you basically have a talk with yourself of why that doesn't pertain to you, and I wonder what your talk is. So mine is generally like Oh. That guy's younger. He's got more to prove than me. He's willing to ride over his talent level and I generally think at forty five I know where my talent level is, and I say just under it, but that's also horse shit, right hundred percent. So tells yourself when you've had friends or peers who have died or been. You know dramatically injured. Doing virtually what you do. What do you tell yourself? No, it's kind of what you said. It's like thinking of your kids riding motorcycles. You like while they're probably going to break a bone. If they continued doing this, but it's not going to be today. Your head. Yeah, it's not today I know that you'll hurt eventually ns, but not today yet you're right. You know the numbers like I. Tell us to people who want to learn to ride a motorcycle who live in La? I'm like you're going to get hit by cars like. I've been doing it for twenty five years here I've been hit by two cars. And that's so you know. Do you WanNa? Learn if you're not good at. Is this where you want to learn where you you know? Even if you're great, YOU'RE GONNA get hit by cars is restored, but every time one of my friends especially like as we've all had a bad injury. And so many of my friends like that's it I'm done I. Will Never Yes again? I'm getting a real job and you know maybe year maybe five years because by, and then they come right back and right about the time that they're going. This is so awesome like this is the greatest thing ever I'm on fire two minutes later. They're getting. Out So Every time I feel like I'm having a really great day. It's like we never say one last time now. We're get enough, so that kind of happened to you right so you left the X. Games for a minute. You didn't compete in freestyle for a few years right? You took a few years off. Yeah, basically racing cars, so ex game started with me I stopped racing motocross basically, and went more just strictly to freestyle and We had nitro circus starting over traveling around the world with their best friends. You know we met up with John Knoxville. They got showing him Devi. Also. We gotta live tour. That's going on I'm like this is great. I love, X. Games, but every time. I went there. It was like I'm either going to be out of here. I'm in here with a metal or on a stretcher. Yes, it's going to be either gold or On the streets and best attitude to have. But I was able to kind of start where this nitro circus and we traveled around the world, and had all my best friends, and that's my my wife. She was the only skater that can do the Gigan- ramp. which is you know the big virk thing? She was doing five forties and. Generally. There's not a lot of girls that can go out to motorcross track all day. We always forget to bring any food or water or anything. It's hot or dirty, and we're loving. Life and most girls are like yeah. It's not where I parked. My Car's not west seen, so I found Lindsey I was I was pretty stoked, and just a really awesome human being. Yeah, it's pretty special. You guys found each other. Okay, so you're an entrepreneur. Did you think you would have you always had an interest so really quick to for anyone who wouldn't know like Tony Hawk this thing he was a skateboarder. He was with Paul Peralta clothing line. He had a board then he had does the new video game you know he was really really good at building a humongous brand around that sport, and you've done the exact same thing it. Were you setting out to do that? No. No I mean I just basically went off. My Dad said and said have as much fun as you possibly can every day. If it's not what you love to do, then it's not worth doing so basically. I took all the wrong business decisions. Every time that I had money over here and I had what I wanted to do over there. I always went with that every time I had leaker instance what I'm most known for by a double backload X. Games, but you gotta think of this, so I still have caliber motorcross across career potentially that that I can do. That's where I'll probably make the most money I want to car racing and. And I've spent almost every dime that I made to that point trying to chase stream thinking that I can. I can drive cars. And it ended up working out, but Colin McRae. Who was one of the greatest rally? Drivers of all time comes over. He's world. Champion comes over the United States which were known as not very good drivers, even though I feel like Nascar Geyser absolutely amazing indycar. They just don't have a lot of respect on the world stage. For whatever reason so when Colin comes over is my third year in rally. Not even knows I'm driving. Cars spent every dime had trying to do this and I get out there and I'm sitting. Sitting second one tenth of a second behind World Champion legend Colin McRae, and with one stage left to go I have best trick so in between the rally stages and the final stage for X. Games is moto best trick I'm sitting third place with a trick that I, had and I'm eight for ten in the foam pit trash like pry breaking my neck and I have my whole rally team. There I have my future that I've just spent everything that I've had trying to get into rally knowing that I've already have a mental here. And what do I do I just say you know what I'm going. I'm not going to regret, not trying. Limited. It worked out or You can write a scenario right so wild. Okay, now building the business, so you take nitro circus, and you travel the world. You do like arenas in my right about that. Down South Africa. We're putting on shows. With fifty thousand people sell out stadiums fifty thousand. Yeah, here. We were mostly like smaller like MGM Grand Arena. That kind of stuff we did the arena in London. We sold it out to zero stuff like that. We went over to Australian like Brisbane. Adelaide, we can usually do three to four nights complete sellouts fifteen thousand a night. which is you know, but that culture down their New Zealand Australia Western candidate to honestly is just more more action sports yeah. Yeah, I was shooting a movie in New Zealand I was like I think I should have lived. Here is awesome. You can drive a jet boat on this little course. They just put you in Judy's way too much worse power and then st by Tommy another guy who has absolutely no business being in anything. They gave him like literally. He's doing one hundred on this little jet vote. You're going one hundred miles. An hour in the track is ending in nine feet, and the guy's not lifting. More throttle. Like, he went into what goes. Straight. Problem is you flip onto land, so it's a field and they cut these little water trenches. But when you start trashing you, flip onto the. In a boat. A boat barrel. Monica, guys, going a hundred in track, is ending, say in a couple dozen feet, and he fucking whips zeroing wheel one eighty floors even more, and you're like that going the other direction. Oh, it's the most surreal. Yeah doesn't feel possible. What happens in those? We were driving. It was not possible. Company shows a year. Does nitro circus put on live shows well this year? We were up to about seventy shows year, and just trying to figure out the business plan. What's interesting is when you're touring. It depends on if you can do more than one night in same Ariya. Profitable yeah, so you have to go through and established what Niger circuses so anywhere that we had a TV show. People knew the name Nitro circus like Australia New Zealand like we were. We came up with the movie got like. Two percent rotten tomatoes here in the US and nobody was out and Australia more seconds. The the Bortles made them. There's not that many people over there, but still. So, without trying to count your money for you, which is a hobby of mine, a what percentage of your income nitro circus traveling live like? Are you nervous about how long it may be before you can do that? Yes, so what's really interesting was so we have of the world championships for the big air of Action Sports X. Games. Olympics are kind of standardize ramps. Let's make it fair across the board nitro searches. How big can we go? How far can fly and let's? Let's make the landings a little bit safer, so we hopefully don't have anyone get injured kind deal and was like it's not legit it's to an air bag is still hurts, and yes, they're now. Doing two more flips than anywhere else in the world. I could give a shit about that, we we. We just want I was showing her. Some clips of your stuff before we talk to you and I saw a bunch of airbag landings where I was still absolutely mind blowing. That's worship. Yeah. So was thrown. Our goal is to to push the limits and to to do it a safe as possible but. This year was the first time we had it outside of salt. Lake City and that was canceled. We're had seventy shows that are now probably end up doing twenty. It's not a good time to be in live entertainment now and now with a nice rally cross so I'm kind of leading the nicer rallycross charge, which is actually building my own facility just to prove that we can have huge jumps that we can do it safely, but I want to be able to have full control creative control over the track, and I want to have the best drivers out there building attracted. Attracted to challenges, the drivers is found a nitro circus not to take a step out, but when the athletes are having fun, the crowds having fun, you can do the exact same show. You do a better show, but if the energy of the athletes aren't there, it doesn't come across and I've seen a NASCAR and all these sports there mazing, but they're so focused on winning I. Want to bring it back where they're actually a little scared of the check their your Talladega. Rights and less. We got huge jump. She got a time stuff now. You're instead of just thinking. I WANNA win. You're thinking. I'm scared so just more challenging. Fun Out with the goal, but so I'm kind of spearheading that and so can walk. WHO's also trying to build up rallycross cross and trying to figure out how to make this go? Beggar doesn't want to announce. He doesn't WANNA. Do anything, but he's like I've done every huge stop I've ever dreamt of, and I feel if I do anything else. I'm going to die. Again like what more can I do so? He passed the Torch Smi this year so Gymkhana which you know when they shut down the Golden, Gate Bridge Shutdown, the ten one zero one freeway for him to drift around. Saying he destroyed so universal. The entire studio was fucked up with tire marks. I was working there and got to work after the weekend after they shut it down and this is the whole place was rubber and I'm like what happened here, okay? Thank you. Really, get talked so Lai goal is to build rally. Can you have all the best rally drivers in the World Plus Tack Shepherd in this thing Jeff, sign up. Let's make it happen so we let's advertise as the best drivers in the world and okay driver shepherd. That's exciting. The electric cars coming out zero to sixteen under a second. No, they're going to. They're thinking about doing not me, but like smallish vs is all the companies are asking for like. Like a minivan doing zero sixteen under a second, that's like a specimen, drag or drive it's GonNa. Be Awesome. Yeah, you're probably pulling like four. Jeeze, you go under. That's it. It's amazing. My goal is to continue progressing sport. Continue having fun I feel like I'm passionate about it if I love it and everything, investing is if it doesn't succeed, it's still been an amazing life, and it's still showing my kids, not that I work per. Se, but you know you're up early. You travel. You're always working. You're working hard at Hartley working. Yes, yeah, that's it but. Now, if I'm being too nosy, tell me, but if you you had your high, it's all the money you make and in the year. What is from your endorsements? Is that the bulk of what you make or is it? The nitro circus touring show, or is it something else I don't even know about? No is probably sponsors and that kind of stuff, so my wife always has a very difficult time, even though she's in the same thing like she skates to winner to says she's looking at what it's GonNa gain. She's a mom now and there's a lot. She won the world championship last year, two thousand nineteen at thirty years old, so so it was like a half lifetime since she wanted the time before so so so proud of my wife, but I was going down, and I was filming this video and I put in eight hundred thousand dollars of my own money, which didn't get pretty much any of it back because the industry is just not big enough to really support that just because I was chasing these jumps in these tricks and Lindsay's like. What are you doing? This is our knowledge. What a fucking circus being married you! Sports, it's also like no. I'm going to become a NASCAR driver and blow x amount of money Oh. Why did you dr like literally? I wasn't good enough and I ran on money so I didn't want to. I've had this experience where I'm like fuck, being craziest isn't good enough. That was dark, so imagine this you race motocross your whole life for freestyle. You can take that electorates. You can, so for those you know like in a whoop section. It was like a whole bunch of bumps that you have to touch your front and back tired. Every single one or you flip over the Mars, but you can shift closure is really and make a whole second I know it doesn't sound like a lot, but you can make a second every lap through the wolves if you are willing to dice. Yeah pretty much. So there's always that and then rally. It's snowing. There's a hundred cliff on the right side trees on the left. So if you'll take more risk, you can be faster. Right, but if the walls went, there was a cone. Everyone would be doing that corner second faster. Let because there is the potential a lot of guys slow it down. That's where I can usually step up and say look I know that this is my ability level and I can make time if I need to push their so with NASCAR with any pavement. Really you can't make time by being crazier. You have to be a technician. You can't get in trouble. You have to be a computer. You have to drive. You have to break it the exact same point every single time and you. You got you know it's. It's very technical. I was like a chance to thirteenth place NASCAR nationwide driver, but I crashed a lot more than I should have because when you running tenths to thirteen place two hours into the race. You're thinking. There's nine nine that are going faster than me like obviously. I should be going faster, so you just kind of run out of patience. You know that's as you Jimmy Johnson, said he said. If you think you're going slow, you are. If you think you're going fast, you're not and if you think you could have possibly gone a little quicker, you could. Conduct does he make sense, but I'm sure it does. Intuitively somehow. Okay. Robbie Maddison. That guy's special right. Yeah. I think he did something that no one really did I think he made an art form out of this like I I showed my wife the one where he wrote a motorcycle and the ocean motherfucker road a dirt bike out into the ocean and wrote a wave. There's some art form of his or some elegance to him. Him. That's so special. What's about motto is matter was a top racer. He raised with Chad. Reed was one of the best amateur motocross years that really came out of Australia, and then he gets into freestyle and he's like man I just I have so much more fun doing this. And then he has a couple, really bad injuries, and he's chasing this and he was. At one point the best, but he never won like the X. Games, because he always got hurt or something came up, so he started working. At least like what am I passionate about and you know has. Now. It's funny because he's actually. Taking on not risk per se but things that seemed like more risk. She jumped the Arc Arc de Triomphe it unbelievable, but he takes the time, so he'll do one year. And when he dropped into the wave like he trump's in jollies on a dirt bike, riding off, the back of a barge hits this and he's got a full riding gear and everything. You're like Oh. Gosh, like you're GonNa if you fall. Fall off and he did trash, but he was good, but everybody does now. He's very methodical. Usually. Don't get hurt doing the stuff. That's the craziest because you've thought of everything through, and he really gives it the time to make sure that he's done. All of his eyes cross his T.'s, and that's why Madison successful, but he is in situations where you can't inch towards your goal, so the arc triumph stunt. What's he gonNA build sixty five triumphs on his way up to that level, where he finally jumps that high and lands like at some point, there's a leap of faith maybe. Maybe maybe there's a way to inch up. What are you promoting currently for me? Just just trying to get a little bit more support for basically I'm starting to track because I stay in Maryland. More I've been traveling so much and especially now during the scoring team I think. I'm so much time with my family. That would have never gotten back, and this is this first time ever? I've gotten routine with my wife and I mean we're cels skating and riding and stuff? We're doing it here at home and home. Schooling was a little difficult with with the kids I was so bad at it dude. Yeah, the pet scans. He took. So I was okay. Do the fun stuff and I always love you anyway. But what I really got out of this and what I really want to do is push action sports, so many people want to come over and they WANNA learn backups. They want to do stuff and I believe we can help people do this stuff safer. We can help the next generation. Come up I. Mean Right now. Video Games are taking over the world which is great, but kids aren't. Aren't getting outside as much in for me like I grew up outside I. Love being outside. My Kids Love go-carts. They love be AMAC's. They're always doing something. You're trampolines, so I wanNA, build this park where my wife she works for Women's Sports Foundation, and she can help coach. Kids and my kids can come out there. We can go kart, so went down. This huge road spent the money trying to figure out the closest to my house. House that we could build this amazing silly that I could just work side by side with my wife that we weren't GonNa be touring as much, but that was still held her circus, and really help show what this rallycross track UB and help the Olympic training facility where we're bringing some of the top athletes from all around the world to come train there, which is I think we fund with community, but there is a Queen Anne Subaru Association. Association which Queens County, they're basically a political activist group that is anti growth through, and they have a lot of money, and they could not get one single person in the towel. Sellers will Maryland to oppose this. Everyone in the town wants it. Braille im seven people over in their county that were willing to go in there filing every single thing they can file and basically trying to prolong this, so we can't break ground for two three years. So if you live on the eastern shore. I think it's going to be an awesome thing for the community for the Stayton and. For the United States in general where you have all these other athletes coming and not some all over the world come kick our butts, but yes, it's it's going to be a lot of fun so hopefully the laxed up a mess and we'll get the message out that it's not building. A motorcross tracks going to be all dusty were were working with electric, trying to keep the noise down a little worker the town. Town but I just want the whole family. Let me ask you because I'm an addict. And recovering one, and so I love drugs, and I love all this stuff I think there's an HBO sports. I watched on it. There's a very high rate of dudes and extreme sports that and being meth addicts or opiate addicts unimagined, both the meaning the thrill at all times would make nice candidate for that, and then all these surgeries. Surgeries, what's been your relationship with like? It's and all that stuff. Luckily me. Opiates made me sick like I hate like after you come out of anaesthesia like I'd rather tolerate the pain so I guess it's a blessing for the sports that we do for sure most of the Action Force guys that I know that have gone down that road. It's been there back or they have something a disc or something that just nags. Nags and they can't sleep, so they start with the sleeping pills, and then when they start taking sleeping pills, something clicked. Something goes off, and then it's the the opiates and sleeping pills, or it's the the alcohol, and then the concussions on top of that it's not a good mix for sure, and then plus one of the hard things is one of my cousins is actually the only smart guy family. He's T shirt. and. I want to see like the sixty minutes on. You guys like at the end of when we're about to die when they do something on like that generation, the last of the like the crazy daredevil generation. What happens to you guys when you have kids like my wife for instance. When she was sixteen, she was snowboarder and a skater, and she stayed with a seventeen year old. That was making million dollars a year and his brother, and like a couple of other people that are between the ages of fourteen and seventeen, the oldest kid in the house, saying living mammoth mountain. With your making money traveling the world, best friends in they find the parties they find. All of everything comes to him so easily and then at twenty five. You're beat up hurt. You really can't even stand up your knees `red jacked up. You couldn't even get a job at McDonalds. Because you standing all that time, you just can't physically do it, and then all the sudden. You're finding what minimum wages and what construction paychecks are, and this is your lifestyle so different and the only way to get that a dream of Russia's. You're not all the city, not being able to afford the motorcycles in the cars and the the fun times, and that's kind of where that depression. Depression the no sleeping, and then the the I need some way to get that feeling back so in my opinion, that's what I've seen. Well. That's the thing that leads the depression. You have camaraderie in your community, and then you leave that community when you stop doing that sport, and that's like these football players. They all get depressed and they don't miss the money and they don't miss famous. The Camaraderie I agree a hundred percent with that. Do you drink? Yes, okay, good holy drink! Do you drink a lot? You know when he's built a little the doctor's things. Yes. Yes! What one beer week! Five years a week. Alcoholic like. It's. Just had to answer that question recently, and I always lie, or you do I do want to like. Drink six days a week. Yeah! socially. Swing trouble. First Class the booze is free. It'd be as descended waste that. We'll travis. You Rule I. Want to hang out with you. We usually go with a policy. That's new friends, but I think with our kids being the same age liking the same stuff. This is GonNa be great all right well I adore you and I'm excited to come to your compound I. Think about it all the time. Every single time I I look at your instagram page I'm like. When will I get to drive on that? That wooded beautiful track at so Gourd. How many acres are you on? While the interesting thing is? We had a neighbor that had twenty acres, and we had a motocross track on his property when I was twelve, and then there was one hundred acres that got broken up into twenty Acre parcels, and one military guy in the rest of us are motocross and the military guys awesome, so he flies his helicopter over all the time. So it's just for being right outside. We're sixteen miles outside of the DC beltway, and we are in the middle of redneck heaven yet. Wow, but we're you. Go Get your groceries. Do you get sweated all the time? They're note Maryland's probably the place to get recognized at least I. Feel Like Action Sports is like fight club. Like you don't speak about during that. Time was a little different. Yeah, pretty much. Everyone like anyone. That has a flat brim tat or Thing Fox whatever. You get a little nuts. You get all the way through the airport everywhere when you sit down restaurant at dinner, always have like a free drink shows up from someone. That's it doesn't really help drink. Earlier, but. It's like I mean that perfect spot. All Right Travis well again I. Adore you. You feel emasculated when I watch. You do things you're. You're braver than I. You're more talented than. and. I'm so glad we got to talk. Thank you so much, try beyond. Speak Perfect round. Two people can hear you. All right. Good to see you stay tuned for more armchair. Dare! We are supported by square. We love him. We use them both as consumers and merchants. Now you might know squares that little white card reader, but square has a lot more tools that can help businesses. Especially now the businesses are having to figure out when and how to safely reopen to make things work in this new normal, but businesses are stepping up to. To the challenge like Cafe Raina also known as the Arrow in Portland Oregon owned by Erica Escalante Cafe Rainha serves coffee, food and baked goods. 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He said yeah, but it's one of those famous movies I. Just have not seen as are any you've not seen like really famous ones and I couldn't think of one railing I don't think so, there has to be. You haven't seen others ripe for an argument over what famous is off. Have you seen my best friends wedding? No. That's a very famous movie moderately successful, maybe like one hundred million guide. Both famous romantic comedies of all time I, believe you. What does it? Someone's a wedding planner? Heading. No my best friends. Wedding is Joya. Roberts and Jira and Dermott more. Rooney Ordeal McDermott now. Dermot Mulroney yes, and their best friends, but they had this pact that they'll eventually get married. They're kind of in love. Best friends forever, and then he gets engaged, and so she tries to sabotage cameron the as Oh. She tries to sabotage and at the end she. She basically surrenders and get married. It was one of the first romantic comedies. The boy, yeah, that like flipped on its head. It is one of my top is up there with Ocean's eleven boma. Gosh really how many times have you watched it forty thousand okay. I was guessing at how many times you'd see notions. I was telling earn. That's like one of your top five and I guess forty times. Forty! Yeah way more than that. I used to. I used two times a year since it came out I. Don't think you understand how my life work. No you don't when I was young Gal I would watch so much TV in movies, and like I would just all every night. Put something on, and generally if I was attached to something at the time, it would be the same thing for like a month. So I watched Ocean's eleven I every day. Forty Times the first year. For sure, and then I watched it on commentary like the same amount. Because the truth it was, it was Brad Yup mat-su. Clone Dr That's right. They were all in the commentary I loved the commentary like Oh my God, but we'll hunting home. Terry is Ben and Matt I could probably recite the commentary as much as I could recite the movie. But your favorite part of the commentary on well, they talk about Robin. Robin died. Talk a lot about. How they wrote it for him, and that's just one part many parts. I love commentary so much of these movies. Especially, these boy movies because I felt like they were talking to me. Yeah Yeah Yeah sure I felt like I was in on one of the real conversations. P. Cues of course, of course you probably all titter big time big time flustered. Have you ever watched the commentary oh? Yeah, my favorite movie thief which I've seen in excess of two hundred times. I've listened to that commentary several times, but it's disappointing. It and I don't really want to get into. Why is I would be publicly shaming? One of the persons involved but I. Just I held the movie and in this sane, esteem. And? Sorry, that happened to you with the commentary. You thank you I. Like Extras to I used to really like extras. I've talked talking here about anyone who wants to be a filmmaker should just watch the extras on Miller's crossing so that you can hear Barry Sonnenfeld. who was the COEN brothers DP for I. Don't know five movies the I five movies. He gives a tutorial on lenses and what they do, and as part of this extra, and it's like it was going to film school. I'm like Oh. I understand lenses completely now. Yeah, that's Nice Nice I see so into something that you just want to consume every single element. You know it's funny in the Sarah Marshall Commentary. Christine isn't there, but she liked calls in for a little portion of it. Yeah, and that's before i. knew are when I saw that right right? We were just newly dating at that point. She's probably driving to your house. Oh, my good. There's a funny story in there, but it's. It's embarrassing to me, but. Okay. I was in Baby Mama. They came out back to back. And Baby Mama had a date and then Chris. Judd said he's he wants that date same studio. And I said well. I don't think they're gonNA move. A Tina fey movie off a date. And guess what. They moved the date op. Funny I was trying to flex on behalf of Tina and. Proxy Flex Flex by proxy. Yeah, it didn't pan out. My favorite was really. Fantastic Loved Sarah Marshall? That's a great movie. It is a great great movie. In love with Jason Segel. Of course, he's funny is into muppets those are cute characteristics. Speaking of There's one thing I was trying to say. The Jerry Weintraub documentary is really fantastic. People should watch it I. Think I think it's on HBO or showtime? Very interesting guy he had been the manager. I WANNA. Say of like led Zeppelin. He was like the Colonel Sanders of not Colonel Sanders. That's Kentucky Fried Chicken Colonel Parker Elvis's kind of puppeteer. Oh, I! Don't want to say. He was a puppeteer, but he was, he was very involved in in led Zeppelin's live in Sinatra's life. He made the original oceans with Sinatra, Dean Martin and all these guys and then. Late in his career, he puts together Ocean's eleven with that cat which he didn't have the time. Really have kind of capital to do that. Well, he hadn't had hit movies for a long long, but he was a. he was a legend. Totally legend. Yeah, and weirdly enough went very early on Shauna Robertson, Kristen's front, and a good friend of mine invited me his house in. Malibu, for a party. And I'm like walking around this house and it is on like ten acres on the Ocean House is enormous and I'm like what the fuck did this guy do? Why is this guy so loaded? I go to the shitter and there's like two dozen gold records in the shitter. Zeppelin's up. When lives up in all these other ones? Okay, that's why this guy is fifty million dollar house any who the way he put together the new Ocean's eleven was he called? Brad Pitt yes. And he said Hey just got off the phone with George Clooney and Matt Damon They WanNa. Make this movie ocean's. We're going to go, and they want you in it and bras like wow, well if they're in a great and then he called Colonie. He just lied to all of them, but it worked out beautifully, and everyone had a great time and sometimes i. Talk about it on the commentary in, and they talk about it in the Weintraub document. He just lied to everyone, but it worked. You got to do that. I guess as a producer on that scale. That can't be done. Really. It's a unique person to get those three top I mean. Those three were at the top of their game. Can't get all three of them and their hotness big-time top of their hotness angelea robbers I mean. Come on back to Jay. As its cheadle oh nine. Movie Water Movie But. Speaking of me speaking of muppets. Speaking of me okay. A little clunky on the transition. Things bore when it made sense. Now I have to do all this okay backtrack. Any who Travis Pastrana care incredibly niche. Oh sure sure sure. Not, not for Dudes, but yes, for you, most dudes in American know who travels. Not into motorsports. Who He is and his right his occupy. There's not hundreds of people making a living at his. That's it's very niche. There's very is you're right. It is very neat. Yeah, you're in. Heaven was in heaven in this episode. Serve no other purpose than he and I are now communicating texting each other, and soon as is over Lincoln and I are one hundred percent going to his compound to ride razors. I guess he'll be driving mavericks, but we'll be driving raisers where players family he is, he's left. Had nobody knows any of these sports are? The five boys listen shown I'm talking to different manufacturers. There's there's three or four manufacturers of side by sides. UTV's employers is number one. They're the best. They're the best the most reliable best performance everything a competing one. That's really good is Canam. They Maverick and Travis has gone to the dark side. Okay. So? If you own a maverick, I love you and I'll see you on the dunes, so no shade but I'm Scott Okay. I bleed ours, er! Continue Oh Gosh? Okay. Okay, so speaking of Lingo that nobody knows so a couple times. You guys were talking about one twenty fives, and you said some other numbers and stuff, and you can just tell people now. In case they've been waiting on bated breath to find out what that means I bet they're like you and they just filed it into white noise. No interest and they don't even want to explanation, but I'll tell I'll give you. So an internal combustion engine works on the principle that there is a piston inside of a cylinder. Piston goes up in the air and compresses the fuel inside and when it gets compressed, it makes it combustible. Spark goes off. An explosion happens. The Piston comes down now. The volume of that cylinder is measured in CC's motorcycles. So a one twenty five means, there's one hundred and twenty-five sees of volume in the cylinder. And then the step up from that would be to fifty, so there's two different classes in motocross back when they were two stroke. That's a longer conversation, but in general, the original internal combustion engines were to stroke meaning the Piston went up in compressed. That was one stroke. That ignited exploded and went down and got rid of the exhaust. In one now the way your car engine works, and now the current motorcycles is there's four strokes. There is compression ignition exhaust an unforgiving one, but there's four processes to get the gas and the gas out as opposed to processes to get the guests in and out. Wow, two strokes had this crazy power band. They're slow, and then all of a sudden. They're outrageously fast. They're hard to predict now. Four strokes are just a very even power him. You just learn glad. I asked it was a tutorial in any. Combustion engine. New Everyday so back to white was relevant is he was doing all of his stunts on a one twenty five right half the displacement of the guys he was competing against. They had way more horsepower yet. He was still winning. That's only reason it was worth bringing up. Yeah, okay, so the one part where my ears perked up no plenty of times, my ears perked up. They got really perked when you're talking about the foam pit. And I- obvious, you know so much about foam. From your cheer background exactly and then he was saying that it started at Woodward camp which you knew about I knew that because when I was younger, my best friends to my best friends were gymnasts were high level gymnasts a and they went to Woodward camp every. Paper to. It's gotta be costly too I'm sure it's not a right right. I'm sure it's not cheap I. Hope You have a scholarship programme me, too. Yeah I hope so too I've seen a couple of HBO real sports about how costly like literally baseball's gotten all these different sports where like to be competitive. You're expected to spend the summer at one of these camps, and then the the travel team in the hotel expensive. It's like. Fifty thousand dollars a year to. Play Little League, which is. If you'RE A, poor kid I compete. I? Don't know what the solution is out wall that crap. Or Scholarship. Fair think scholarship. Yeah, even in high school like it's expensive for cheerleading the uniforms. The this that it really does add up if you don't have the money. Walter screw the only reason I'm not in the NHL currently as we didn't have money for me to do hockey and have ice time. I know I would have been in the NHL. Gone retired twelve years ago, it'd be depressed and I'd be back on the bottle. That's the truth. Call on my teammates. You guys want to get together. Like Yeah. We found management jobs with teams and you didn't. Okay so he said that risk-takers don't have as much Eh Mayo. In their brain. Our family of enzymes that catalyze the oxidation of Mono. Means Mano a means employing oxygen to clip off their amine group and Mayo. A is a logical enzyme to investigate in depression, because it regulates levels of all three major mono, a means, Serotonin norepinephrine and dopamine in the brain. That's the one I always forget, neuro epigraph rabbit Nora from. You Always Forget Nora O.. And then she was wonderful Oh. Yes, she was okay. Because of the vital role that Ma owes play in the inactivation of neurotransmitters Emmy Oh dysfunction, too much or too little, is thought to be responsible for a number of psychiatric neurological disorders, for example, unusually high or low levels of Mayo's in the body have been associated with schizophrenia depression. ADD substance. Substance Abuse Migraines and Irregular Sexual Maturation Eh ob research suggests that high sensation seeking reaches into every aspect of people's lives, affecting engagement in risky sports, relationship satisfaction before enduring marriage tastes in music, art and Entertainment Driving Habits, food, preferences, job, choices and satisfaction, humor, creativity and social attitudes, a while non right. It got none of those no I mean I. Don't think I have. A Oh no, that's I haven't said yet the correlation, but that's just saying. Those are high sensation seeking people which clearly you are. Okay compared with lows in station seekers, high sensation seekers are more likely to smoke abuse, alcohol and drugs. And are more attracted a high stress careers. Schiff. We've been doing all this stupid psychological work and my trauma, my childhood, my background, and clearly it's just we don't know yet a heavy even God. Lack of Ma Otani. Okay, you're right. I'm trying to be risking the ending. The personality trait may have a biochemical basis. High sensation seekers have lower levels of Manoa me and sinise Titan be. And Ends? Bing Bing Bing Bing. Involved in the regulation of neurotransmitters, particularly dopamine, according to Suck remains book, behavioral expressions and bio social basis of sensation, seeking and our research review chapter he wrote the book biology of personality and individual differences okay. Also Wanna LEVELS TESTS MA OB levels test. Yeah, moreover, published in one, thousand, nine hundred determined that sensation seeking which is higher in men than in women, peaks in the late teens and early twenties, and gradually declines with age along with levels of testosterone 'EM AO, which is low in high sensation seekers increases with age in the blood and brain. Are you going to tell people that you're on testosterone absolute on here several times? Yeah, well, you're on testosterone a Montessori. Now, currently at the levels I should have been at in my late twenties. Early Thirties my when I got tested, might my levels were like in my late fifties? And I think there's some correlation between physical trauma in reduced testosterone production because my father. My father had like zero testosterone at a certain point and was on antidepressants. And then he got onto susteren. He no longer needed antidepressants. It has a big affect on your mood for a male. That's the thing I like most about it more optimistic when I'm on and I'm more hungry to work and hungry. haven't noticed how it is affected my food intake. I didn't say how many more state I didn't even. Oh my God. We just something that. Remember I didn't even like stay. I've never liked it my whole life two years ago I'm like I'm going to try every single steak and see which one I like, and then I become like a steak of file. Oh my gosh. That's definitely not. Sports more to all my God. Okay so use said. You say Oh, you said you're definitely going to get hit by carpet. Drive a motorcycle which I didn't like. The most common motorcycle accident happens when a car makes a left turn in front of you. Yeah, this is the single most dangerous situation motorcyclists accounting for forty two percent of all accidents, including a motorcycle and car. Yeah, you got to really be Oltra focus when you're going through intersections. All add though La is a really big. Town and that's where most of the people I think. The PCH, the deadliest road in Los Angeles County, and generally it's it's knuckleheads making a fucking u-turn. They've parked at the beach and then they make a u-turn across like six lanes. And a lot of motorcyclists have just been cruising on the road. Awesome KNUCKLEHEAD bus a turn out of nowhere. Okay well, this is a scary paragraph about to read a Cold Guy The NHTSA reports that that thirteen cars out of every one hundred thousand are involved in a fatal accident, but motorcyclists have a fatality rate of seventy two per hundred thousand. Okay, so that's six. That's five times, yeah! Motorcyclists are also at a greater risk of a fatal accident per mile traveled for every mile travel motorcycles have a risk of a fatal accident. That is thirty five times higher than car driver. In two thousand four, there were thirty, seven, thousand, two, thousand, four, who cares? Motorcycles sales have declined so maybe two thousand and four was maybe like peak motorcycle ownership. The millennials. Don't give a shit about motorcycle. Sadly I don't even show by any motor sports sadly. It's good ultimately for the environment. I suppose that's true. That's true. Okay, so he talks about electric. That's going to go from zero to sixty in a second. And then you said that probably hits four. Jeeze, hough, it actually hits two point seven three five GS, two, zero, sixteen one second. Yeah, that's bonkers. That's what drag cars did in the day back in the day. It says right now. This is you. You'll know more than me about this, but it said that fast zero six to using a tesla in ludicrous mode well, this is the Bugatti home yeah. Chiron Vay Ron and they run. Superstore are capable of zero to sixty time of two point five seconds. They currently have the fastest zero to sixty time of any production car. Yeah, that's a one point. Four million dollar car and it has a double you engine instead of a V, and it has four turbochargers on it, and it has like three or four radiators, and it makes over thousand horsepower in its four wheel drive. Only it is in sanely fast. I was at the auto show one year. I went solely to see the Veyron. Into them and I was looking at it through the ropes. They asked if I wanted to come closer. So of course I said yes. I'd be more mad at myself for saying no okay so I was now in the car right and then a guy leans down and he works body. He says Dr This thing and I said absolutely, and he said okay. Meet me at this beverly. Hills dealership in a couple of days. Oh, I think at the time. There was only four in the country. And we went out on Burton. Way And I just did whole shots from light to light, and that thing would go. I could get up to like one twenty five between lights. Very minimal very safe closed course. close course. That means when people fuck around an instagram in cars, and then they get. Shamed. Some people have been arrested on my God and they'll say close course. What's that mean? One top gear will shut down two miles of Angeles crest dot it and then we're allowed to do whatever we want. Cops there yeah, so some people will post close. Course is not really a close course, okay? Yeah I'll leave it up people to decide. All right well. That's it for Travis that is. Oh, okay. What did I want to say about him? Just I don't know I'm excited to go to his house. Yeah, What an interesting life! One of the more unique one of the most unique, American, life experiences, yeah, and I truly have no judgment negative judgment because I think it's amazing. I like that philosophy of what's the point of living? If you're not living the life, you wanna live. And I also think Oh my God. Could I ever get close to a person like that? You said it was a pretty selfish lifestyle afterwards, and we had a mini debate about that, and that's fine. If that's your choice, but it's I. do think though it's a little misleading, because like. Yes, I get your point that selfish because there's a threat of death, right? But more often a huge percentage of America, the the person's dedicated their life to their career, whether it's a lawyer or the CEO or all these different occupations that are like seventy eighty hour week, occupations. Yeah, and so you've lost that person to that career in general. You're going to see them on the weekends, but they're stressed. And Travis yes, has the threat of death looming, but his time is less, and he's at home with his family. Doing this thing, so you gotta be really granular about what you want out of the relationship, because if it safety. It could have the illusion of safety, but you could actually have much less of that person's life. Yeah, that's true. Everyone's different and every person probably has a different answer to this, but if I was picking for my dad, would I prefer to have him work a ton and see him maybe not that much. But feel pretty pretty confident that he's not risking his life every day. I would pick that, but you know it's funny because this is kind of your parents. What do you mean like this is? The Lens that your parents look at life. Like safety, but there's so many elements to safety like his safety. Emotional safety is safety totally. Connection Yeah intertwined lives, and yeah is a physical safety. I can tell you one thing. I'm judgmental of in the way that you are. That I. Am Not. Just Man I. Really Am Not I. Think whatever works works for him and his family. I think that's lovely. Yes, and I don't think you're making a character assessment of him when I say judge mental. I'll say I'm judgmental of something I've noticed recently occasionally. When I'm traveling, would never watch it in the home. My wife Went Milan. It and I want my kids to necessarily see, but I'll watch like three hours UFC when I'm at a hotel. And I've noticed the last couple of times I watched that. The fighters bring their kids and I don't. I don't think a six year old should be watching. Their parents get bloodied to all hell. And the fight having to be stopped. In I mean I. I can't see how that's not traumatic. Now imagine the fighter is so confident about the contest that they're going to win in their mind. They're going to be dominant and their child's going to be proud of them. That has to be what they tell themselves. And fifty percent of the people were GONNA lose. No matter how confident they are. That's going to happen and so half of the kids that go. are going to watch their parents get obliterated, and it's got to be very scary, not fun to watch. To wonder if he that they have a rule that like the family doesn't watch him. do those stunts unless they know they've like they worked out, and then they can see him after the fact, but maybe not on the day watching the big strong. Maybe yes, I. think seeing it has an added level of trauma, but there's a innate sense of insecurity you grow accustomed to. If your parent is putting their life on the line every day that goes for military families to it's off Jewish where it's like you go to bed at night, and you're just not sure. Yes, but I don't think any navy seal would want child to be watching the rate of Osama bin Laden's compound live. Right now that's what I'm saying. Regardless of whether you see it or not, you. You are then forced, and you're forced as a child. You don't get to make this decision. That you are now living in a state of some insecurity about the people you care about the most in the world, and I think that probably has an effect whether they even realize they probably think their parents are superheroes in some way like they probably believe even more than the parent that they can do anything. Like the DAD's a superhero, which is well, yes, yes, so it might not be full of anxiety and might be of like do it again. He can do it. They might not be nervous at all watching it but I. What I'm saying is I wouldn't want them to see when it goes bad right, but he also like he has a lot of people in his life. Who Died? And Bat. I didn't grow up with my parents. Having a bunch of people have I your Dad's job. Let such a different internal programming of like. Yeah, this guy that came over two weeks ago is dead now, but you know what I guess now that I'm thinking about I, guess one of the elements that I think appeals to me about it is my endless desire for control, and in some way me. Getting killed by cancer pisses me off me. Getting killed by something I hate didn't want didn't sign up for versus me dying. Doing something that I chose to do that I love. Some about that to me, that feels. Better I I. Respect that and to me that's a selfish thing to say right Charlotte I would prefer you die of cancer, not next year, no not next year, but if I died at forty of cancer as people do, and then I hadn't done anything. I love because I was afraid of dying, and this fucking stupid thing got me yeah, when I could have been doing everything I loved well. It's a balance right it's about. Anything Yeah you love them in the safe side of all these things. I'm not trying to set any world records or Okay. You just knocked on Wood Desk. I built. Alright I love you.

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Billy Monger: Royal Automobile Club Talk Show

Motor Sport Magazine Podcast

30:11 min | 1 year ago

Billy Monger: Royal Automobile Club Talk Show

"Hello everyone and welcome to the secret room at the Royal Automobile Club now. It's very appropriate that we're here today because we are joined by Billy Manga and you you have been awarded the two thousand eighteen c grip trophy massive congratulations. We can sit behind you off to the German Grand Prix and the trophies that were handed out on not podium. This one is is a proper trophy isn't it it really is. LA- ciruit to finally say and <hes> yeah. It's just <hes> praised based on now. You've been this demonstrating exceptional courage and determination often great adversity and returning to high levels of Motorsport and unreliable informed. You are oh definitely the youngest ever winner <hes> just fill people watching pretty much. Everyone knows what's what your story is <hes> but you know that do those that don't know <hes> was up and coming a single seats driver and Motorsport Star and then in April two thousand seventeen. You had a huge crash. You lost your legs within eight months you had persuaded the F._A._A. To overturn a ban to let disabled drivers Ray single-seaters within nine months. You're tested a formula the three call in eleven months you raise the former three call for the first time and finished on the podium as as a summary so I mean it's a remarkable will story. How's the season going into my we'll stall starts to here now and we'll look back so the seasons been there's been very highs and lows alos. There's been off to having a year of driving in Berkshire free and going through all the struggles <unk> to even get the call to work appropriately. I was hoping this year would be that side of things as in the first year back to raise answer so a free four months from the the star of trying to modify car together fully modified and ready to be on the circuit so we were hoping we could make that of say a lot less now. We knew we're going to keep the system the same or different car but the way this car has had to modify it to make the systems work has been very tricky technical who issues throughout the year were the fro paddle has been all. Kryptonite and it's always it's always been something wrong with that and it has been a frustration Australian year on that side of things but when it's been working we've had some high holidays are one the prayer earlier in the year which was my first ever street race and another historic doc event and the first my first win since being back gracing US Max. There's definitely been some really high this season so far with within the cost. That's the way it is. Is Everything done fully on hand controls. Alexandria came back to driving. I think he was using his prosthetic leg to break through hip pressure. You are you doing any all just hand controls nicer. I I use my like break and the reason I use my right. Not My left like like racing. Drivers normally would is <hes> dance stick. My knee joint on my right leg left. Leg Amputation is above the knee so that limits how the function of got within that breath don't use no move full length prosthetics 'cause they if I were a bit concerned that may see two wearing a full length lake if something was to happen in something thing came into the cockpit with that then five backup into me or something so we made a decision to our really short prosthetic probably end so of where where they of white one ends the I'm wearing now and that's how I how the break and the rest of his own hand controls is the is the feeling you get the sensations you get transmitted through Europe a body I mean are they the same as the feelings did you have before there's definitely a lot of similarity seasons <unk> in the way the always sit in the car in the same sort of position they anything that we have to when we make the seat that we have to think about is getting the right angle on. Alexa the I can generate enough power from from hip and free money the AH hit the brake properly overseer racing drivers the way they sit is that legs of <unk> power from from the quote but mice mice of some of that pressure comes from the ankle movement which I don't have any ankle movement in the call so all of mine has come through my hip muscles by flexes mccord's so there's a lot of the muscles amusing in the way the <hes> the the ares after be strong into drive they call a difference since the offer drivers but so there are things that we have to take into consideration but fundamentally fundamentally the way the drive have the call and the way the operator is well yeah if from the outside you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between May and any of the other guys racing is on the if you knew knew who was in the car and what my situation was the what was going on was different so I've I've occasionally tried left at breaking a road on either nearly crashed into the car in front or I'd stopped dead on the road because I've got literally no control having a years breaking my right leg but when you did the test with Colin and your first time back into singles he'd always use the same before then how how is the kind of change over there because it must be so difficult will not disarm to break with with another leg but without the field because breaking failed. Isn't it yeah yeah. That was tricky the first that was a site that was four months to get the car adapted day was easily free fray mumps and then probably some of the some of that time into the build. Tom Itself poor outside that was five months at least me going to the factory doing similar work figuring out a way. I <hes> when I I would use this meter. Start driving on the same again just for fun. I'm just because Carlin off me. The opportunity to it was all done on hyksos breaking with my hands on Palawan Hans is doing Francois's gays and it also very complicated too much to the failing. Dr had breaking for your hands. John's was completely different to breaking with with my legs I was I was looking up all the time on the same and it was like it was pretty terrible to start off with crushing left right and center so when I my legs recovered enough that I would use my <hes> to to try using elect elect break <hes> am I a troy without wearing any prosthetics are just breaking purely on the bone and the skin at the bottom of my leg so it's just a poem pile of my stomach trump breaking on that brady painful couldn't hardly any brake pressure and then slowly but surely I added my line. Abaco on tried that little bit better and then this age where basically this was what I was wearing at the time and the same with like maybe we should just try with your leg on unbolted the bottom half my leg took the off my leg off which is something that while the processing paper very happy with us on the boasting housing legs and then back together and not put the foot on the wrong way round it was <hes> that sort of thing is funny at the time. China make that happen but when I I saw using just a the socket it was like a flat bottomed socket. It seemed to work better or could generate at that time. It was probably hitting forty percent of the pressure the unneeded hit in five months time when I started the season is still one long long way to go to get it to the stage where I could break a fee efficiently and could be quick because if you can't break in a arising call you kind of you not looking good for self and something that <hes> you know kind of I suppose a small little facts that <hes> some way to explaining why you've won this trophy and I think it was two days after you got fitted with legs for the first time you then did an air ambulance charity walk at Brands Hatch and for those that don't know a lot of people will have seen the B._B._C. documentary getting kneepads legs. It's almost impossible from AIDS becomes welby to get used them but within two days your off kind kind of the guys that rescue off the accident. I mean amazing. What I wanted to ask was off the accident. How scene was it before. You started thinking right racy again so racing of when I I have my ex and I was in the juice <unk> came out of that I was on a low of medication and drugs because because of the Pinos going through and and to reduce that as much as possible so <hes> as much as a racing driver that was I remember I'm particularly in the first week will read the first week in half thinking about racing it so apparently when I came out of mind Jayco when I was still ready uh-huh another medication so I don't actually remember this myself but my my mom gave me oil strips of paper to write something and my mom gave me a piece of paper and a pen and then apparently off script with down and some terrible handwriting because I wasn't ready with it <hes>. I put who won the race. That was my that was my this point. I made an age sound so stupid now to think that that was what I was where my head was those who won the race because I didn't remember uh-huh any any of that stuff so yeah. It sounds so stupid now but that's Germany apparently will was asking since I came out and the route talk about racing probably sausage when Oh my family and friends and like the the team go see the they took me to the local hospital from Donnington. They took me to the Queen's Medical Centre nauseam. Which is where my my operations were done by <hes> I spent? I think just Vermont Finn in hospital. Mavra was always full of people from engineering mechanics of a rising drive is is friends with the come down and say me and <hes>. Yes yes I my room was always busy eventually when you have that many people that love racing in the same verb rising comes up and it just went from there ready. What was this what was tougher? Ouchi reacclimatise driving a single seater gain or persuading the F._A._A. They should be they should be allowed to drive a single again. It was definitely acclimatizing to driving a single seats. The challenge the was there is something that we had no referenced. The Gulf off of we have people Alexander Hughes raced in very similar injuries to me but only ever really done it in a G._T. Car so I'll have to convinced the Hawaii the always gonNA be Saif to to drive a single seater and advance team the I was going to be quick enough because the top top team and they as much as they were amazing in lawsuits <unk> made to be competitive. I didn't want to a they didn't WanNa just May end autumn. WanNa just be out there. Bob N._F._l. was going to be able to go back and actually bear racing driver and not just this guy. That's had this terrible accident and he's out there giving it his best. I wanted to do as well as a competitive guy. <hes> saw that that was lots of <hes> <hes> lots of stuff involved in making sure that we were going to be quick and we did. We did a fair amount of testing before the start of season. I think we got the call ready in February and the star of the season was was April so we had probably think between I intend is in the forest season which for me <hes> before. Max is an never had the opportunity to test because we didn't have the budget to do that. I would know may the media diet style at the season and when I was in Nashville and that would be so off if not for the first round and then part from that was normally Friday practices it was a it was strange to be out in the call more regularly and I would have been given before maximum they just for the benefit of people who probably done. I mean there are very strict regulations with their fiber. At the time it takes a driver in the event connection to get in and out of a four five seconds as we have to be able to play the COPA. Yes I actually quick oeste shame take into account and it was it was a concern <hes> I from. We did main the team how to let government here and very briefly with more than actually attempting to get out in five seconds. We'll thinking okay. What how would they forbade? Let the strategy kind end of war <unk> legs on in the car. I can't stand up and say and then jump how how you gonNA use like how you gonNA use your situation to your volunteers -cause getting out of CAU- not having nobody to stand up on the jump Powell there's disadvantage that comes through that but there is an advantage in the fat the wear my full length legs in the car so on this lake. I don't wear any prosthetic too. So if in my leg finishes above my knee on this side my leg shoot racing finishes at the bottom of my soccer <hes> and what we realized quite early on was the gang out the call wouldn't be that holiday because unlike averittdrivers the type the steering wheel off lift their legs from underneath then uh-huh back on and jump Powell. I didn't have to take the wheel off to get out of the car I could slide my legs underneath stand up on one leg racing leg and then use my upper body strength which is something that are developed off the maximum from spending time in the wheelchair and having a go office so I did before I go back to racing wheelchair tennis and suffer this and and <hes> some cycling stuff <hes> a kind of went from there and <hes> eventually managed care are probably in a a couple of seconds outdoor offering seconds which is a quick than I could have done it before amazing now. I think I suppose you'll story is also an amazing example of how great the I just spoke. Community has <hes> and from the money that was raised off your accident <hes> from the multiple community all the way through to a standing ovation at the prizegiving. Ann Lewis is obviously huge supporter and he was one of your childhood heroes. I'm just told me through some of the reaction from the much community yeah it was crazy. I mean Luxa went inside. I put me into Andrew's camera to sack odd thing was freer four days that I spent any juice. I woke up on all I took me out of the Moana Wednesday Wednesday Wednesday evening also the weekend and whilst all this was going on for me. I felt like I had a long long. Sleep snooze. <hes> all of this crazy amount of support was coming in <unk>. Mom and my dad were probably overwhelmed with the Spanish for them. It was a tough situation and it was team manager. The WHO in the team I was driving four and a friend from from racing the South this go fund me page then went viral loads of people from the Mites Vote Community Doug nizing and yet and all of this was when I woke up it was kind of like our weather like it didn't really believe that that was going on and aw sal was more concerned about what was going on with me and then I'll see spending twenty four hours a day in hospital in bed eventually as a young person you end up in a fun fun and you sail these messages of support and all these people the dominating money to you and wishing you best in mice of the month never met before my life hyphen it's like is this really happening is like it just felt so so seru about incredible at the same time like a gave me so much joy and happiness seeing over the messages of support that will coming in so many people. I've never met full <unk> saying we really hope you got you. Get certain get back outracing again <hes> and it was just like wow what the people can be so amazing. If all this semi everyone in the news about how all the negative stuff that's happening. Uh for many of the White Paper together full may off it was just just talk and Gab so surreal incredible tollgate one became getting back into racing car but what's the sort of the end game and will. How do you want to try and go well. The reason I came back to racing's one because mistakes I love racing Saimaa inch and two because it's kind of who I am everyone who's involved support condemnations at once you get inside to spill it's like is I assign little bubble and you never WANNA leave it. We want to sign it as much as long as you can and having had the crazy to a bit years have now and to be why. I'm never fought be a never really knew of. I'd be writing again. Let alone going on winning. The Pope impre winning winning races again so as much as it's easy <unk> in Formula One. The tree is the way muscles might the law. She is has been progressing. I have no idea what's going to happen. UNAWARE GONNA end up with what I'm going to end up doing now. The I'm GONNA continue to enjoy rising and and a passion of mine I wants to <unk>. I'd love to form one left to be awo champion. I'd love to fit to continue my story in that way but the truth is life is crazy and I have no idea where I'm going to end up but I'm just GonNa keep on driving and doing the best I can and that's kind of organ do it isn't it were there isn't G._T.'s touring whatever might be just doing racing present. Yeah I mean formula. One is always been my passion. It's always been from when I started go carting watch foam of my dad and that was like are of weekend with like if I wasn't pricing myself would be at home. We've watched a qualify for the race but chair on remember I remember me and my dad jumping up in the living room celebrates and when Louis on his first world championship in that crazy rice so on the last corner there's just so many memories attached to formula. One and that kind of and that <unk> might this is Paul is very different and the irony ready formula. One drivers get the credit. They deserve outside in my <unk> unless you involved in might spoke from the outside world. A lot of people don't really know many turn called drivers a D._T._M. Drive is old. People of one Lamont is very weighed in that since the recognition goes to the former one guys unless you're involved in which case she knows how incredible or these racing drivers are but yeah formula. One for me is still where I see myself governed wet where I'd love to get to but I'm definitely not rolling any of the other stuff out because I love love might spoil an racing lemond. Being intern calls or anything of that. I wouldn't if as long as I was happy doing it a win. Say is being like a a didn't achieve target and so of Locker Offset Sufa for driver Monir anything like that of a win. I don't take aac might spoke for granted. I don't take while I'm able to go out and do as take it for granted so if I can go out there and embrace against some of the best guys in in the world at the best circuits in the world and enjoy it while I'm doing it that that's ready for me before we we are on a very tight time unscheduled side the fat and I'm looking at my watch is the reason why is because he needs to your winners lunch. I want to talk about seagraves trophy. I'm just GonNa read out some names from these winners from recent years not even going back to nineteen thirty Lewis Hamilton Adrian newey John Surtees John McGuinness Jackie Stewart Study Moss Colin McRae Nigel Mansell <hes> how how does it feel to offset bef- racing they have is just so surreal the last six weeks Samantha been in five different countries of done free rices myself have been a free format on weekends and to be honest. I kinda feel guilty in some ways because I've kind of come here today for this amazing incredible award and I've not had time to really process how incredible and how how amazing it is to even be here in the first place that lender wind such an incredible award so I'm really going to us today and take Lynn but the name Jurado fat-list their modes icons legends of the school and the fact that even getting this would let alone. I'M GONNA be on it with all these incredible could nines. It's just <hes> something that I'll never forget and <unk> <hes> I've I've been given a lot ovo awards off the maximum and and just still have to pinch myself sometimes in some ways always just say I I still see myself as being a twenty year old racing driver. The kings gets full but obviously for different people it seems like I have and they're inspiring story and they they so incredibly <hes> so amazed people seem masive where I'm able to do and a sometimes I find a bit weak. I'm just a racing driver. How that's kind of that's why I am and have been able to of holidays incredible <unk> amazing people when and done charrette's stuff charity air ambulance is so stuff the of wanted to do because that's the person I am not because I'm trying to impress anyone. I'm quite I'm quite a keep myself to myself out so like outgoing person I'm kind of a close knit group of family and friends <hes> I try and say over the time and the last six weeks aches of bed up in a home free days of of barely had a chance to even catch mom and dad for for how and it's just like my life is he's very crazy in that sense but I'm so just ended. I had normal twenty rice in Java looking to win. Races and <hes> hopefully hopefully win win a championship at some point nappy Nice. I think what a from night so I think one of the amazing things about your stories is that you don't realize it's amazing and I think it's a very humbling experience. One of the the things that are kind of this has happened since Louis. How much is being very supportive from <hes> from the outside? He can sometimes seem quite closed as a person at United. Sometimes it's difficult to get hold of in if you're media something on that but actually underneath phase obviously very caring supportive guard at Sam quite similar to some ways <hes> like when I'm away from racing. I like to uh to be away from racing because you don't get that opportunity very often especially. If you're Lewis Hamilton man. I can't think on busy doing media stuff on matching Hayes the amount of commitments he's got. He must live this crazy life and then everyone wants to go hyman switch off from stuff and they can imagine that can be frustrating for people like Luis when they go home and I've still go media. John's get hold of him and and lots of things and he ate familiar familiar to me. He's just been an amazing friend and a really great person to to have supporting me and my journey of spin why I say I spend a lot of time with him a lot of time considering how busy a person is a long time for me and Yeah I've got nothing but good things. Soosai about him and it's always going to be difficult for someone like Lewis. He's got the the hopes of a nation on his shoulders and it comes to sport his. He's the guy who everyone expects every weekends out there and win when he doesn't ask like what's happened to Hamilton but yeah the fact even winning an award. He's won yeah. Sometimes I do feel guilty because of not got my world championship yet to go along with it. Feel Anita say to go ahead and and get to try and get <unk> do my best to get that first and then maybe I feel a little bit more more as with the fact that people were saying me and get wooding me such incredible incredible things like for the sake or trophy. I don't know whether you're aware of the time it's about winning the world championship yet but <hes> were you aware of the fact that <hes> you'll victory. MPO had on your Colin team because adjusting to drive a car on your team boss not long ago and he said that just gone through the crushing disappointment his appointment of having two of the three cars fell to win the Indianapolis five hundred he was sitting in the truck at indy watching live youtube feed of you leading impo and he said the way the weekend had gone they just expect you to disappear tar will let any second but changeable conditions and different tires and all the rest of it and you just kept on going and going and he said Dad was such an uplifting thing for for him at the time just in the in the slipstream of the disappointed Indianapolis for you to win in that manner were you were you aware of the effect is having on the team Osa. I've kept an oil how was doing on a soul the as guy plan and <hes> funny enough as soon as I came strap out the calls to make the team bus of Europe former the share a Guy Kogas hand me defined. He said I think someone's okay but at this point I'm still celebrate and we've oh everyone because we've just increased just achieved a first of its own and winning winning winning rakes takes off the maxed and after having to return role so then be everyone would given the circumstances who'll places which is challenging circuits and under high as it was such an incredibly experienced pilot never next. I've never done a street second before we had to how sessions in the wet and then I'll qualifying was in the joy Roy. <hes> it was just like so surreal it was it was awesome at same time so anyway trump was on the phone and he was just like in. Oh he said you are amazing said I'm so proud of avoid manage their shave and hopefully as many multi common always just thankful because with with it takes thanks a lot of bravery and courage for someone like try to to do what they do and what they've done for me in terms of Taika commander that wing getting may in a rice call in the first place because I think as if there's any team out that given my accident and given even my profile would have felt comfortable in converts mccaw for me in case something gone wrong it would have been a lot of there was a lot of media around it and Mike Comeback I go up and that is as much as I'd like to say well. We are a good racing driver that is all of the credit in that situation goes to call into him and trevor in particular because without them making CNET bright decision to to back me when no one else would back me when our pricing and everyone it's it's like a there's is a lot of cost as well as it goes into converting car to me. It's not as simple as going. I'm billy doing a field modifications and then send me out my way. It's a commitment it was of is a free <unk> full project where you group of guys on doing stuff that they probably should be done because they're working on and making this call what for me and obviously all of this goes towards the fact that they want me to do well which is also attain the. Eh Team in that sense because that's what you need behind. Unique group is up dedicated. They want you to do as well as you yourself <hes> and call in as entertainment been amazing for me on what a wonderful note to end on Friday. We all saw half an hour in at the end. I should introduce you the very much for joining us. Hi thanks very much. I do all the sound and the video billy. It has been an amazing humbling experience. Yeah congratulations on a hugely deserved seagrams trophy. I think you've gotta come to take you. You got a couple of interviews but then you do have your winners joy that but thank you so much ambles. Thank you thank you for listening. Thank you for watching. We'll see you next month bye bye.

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#119 - Fighting Climate Change Fatigue

Think: Sustainability

25:50 min | 1 year ago

#119 - Fighting Climate Change Fatigue

"Review and one of the oldest publications in the US The nation set out a challenge for publications across the globe report more on Climate Change Kelly the editor behind one of the most respected voices on press criticism the Columbia journals move on from there now we see much evidence of that science denial is still there but I think that the Australian media's got much better about accurately else newsrooms around the world to commit to climate coverage all week leading up to the United Nations Climate Action Summit in September they had an overwhelming response biase because it was giving undue emphasis to the views of science denies but that was then Tom Ricans we've improved since I think we journalism and he's also an associate professor of journalism and research at the Climate Justice Research Center at ups and he's talking about Professor Wendy Bacon betrayed a false balance between the views of genuine scientists and those climate denies that climate change had been reported as a political story instead of a sign it's more than three hundred fifty news outlets around the world signed up to covering climate now initiative with a combined audience of over one billion people this is what they called balance as bias where this sort of false idea of balancing the views of the story we know that based on Wendy biking's analysis of the coverage of climate change in range of Australian newspapers that that there was undue space being given to the views of science deniers and let's be clear then revolt who helping to boost science to Nile in the in the media and this reflects in a way a and as we migrate away from this false balance and break away from the idea of climate change as a debate we're really only at the beginning of climate reporting you bought after talking to reporters from the likes of the Guardian Bloomberg Rolling Stone and Al Jazeera they realized this was just the beginning thinks sustainability I'm Julia Castle Colin McRae inspired to launch covering climate now because they realized that media in the US for too long as the editors behind covering climate now discovered some pretty substantial roadblocks remain such as the activist concern in talking to newsrooms across the climate deniers via science deniers. Tom Morton is an award-winning journalist with over two decades of experience he's the director of the Australian Centre for independ- Naughty fought the center of the world scientists who know that climate change is happening and that it's caused by humans and demanded better coverage of the climate prices and twit extent a new wave of young climate activists can affect change this is Oh haven't signed up to climate coverage now the legacy organizations claimed they didn't want to be seen as joining something to be seen as activists it doesn't mean that we have to become advocates because ultimately gentlest responsibility is to try and pursue the best available with the five percent of those scientists oh experts oppose it experts who don't think that it's happening and Offenbach of said that was false balance and in fact it was a really excessive amount of space being given to not just the views of science deniers by all sides to at particular commentators like hand of advocacy journalism is so prevalent that some of the most high profile publications in the World The New York Times The Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post still he conducted detailed analysis of straight newspapers coverage of climate back in two thousand thirteen and she found that the woes tree Colin mocking counted many journalists who said they were hesitant to report on climate as they were afraid to be seen as to activists this field version of the truth they can and I still think that's the most important thing that journalists can continue to do in this era of climate emergency is stories of course is the entrenched power and influence of the fossil fuel sector and we've seen a very real example in the United States where I'm Jim brought trend that we saw an international media a couple of American scholars cool boy coffin boy cough identified a similar trend in the American media and I described mm-hmm on today's episode how one powerhouse of journalism turned an industry upside down analysts investigated what Exxon Mobil knew about climate change this is one of the largest fossil fuel corporations in the world I used gathering is all about that journalism has always been about righting wrongs holding the powerful to account they say it's best traditions to shoot on a light on almost vexing problems in order to help fix them journalists need to focus on what the real story is one of the big to account in the recent Australian election we have had some excellent journalism about for example Adani a massive amount of material has been disclosed showing what Exxon Mobil Exxon Mobil New and sharing her Exxon Mobil then went on to actively untried undermine climate science in the from the nineteen nineties onwards that's an example of the kind of journalism that we need which first of all exposes Sion's financial dealings in India and about it's very close links to the political establishment in India what we didn't get in the last election was reported pat and the influence the fossil fuel sector it's attempts to try and undermine climate science type things journalists missed a chance to hold some of those powerful ability to focus on the stories that need telling the stories that aren't being told at the moment his view is shed by Kyle and mock who say that the concern around advocacy journalism distorts orange and those disclosures now the subject of a number of lawsuits in the United States involving the attorneys general of a number of states where the Indian company which wants to wipe not one of the world's largest coal mines in North Queensland we've had some excellent journalism about dining cooeperation mm fossil fuels and climate change and I found that Exxon Mobil new in the light seventies that there was a link between fossil fuels and climate and a group of journalists commissioned by the Rockefeller Foundation Start to investigate what Exxon Mobil had known about the link between Bernie hair anymore that climate reporting is too depressing that it's alarmist and urgent messaging is bumming causing apathy prepared to pursue the real story in Queensland the problem with journalism in the last election with journalists in the last election is that there were far too focused on what was going on truthfully representing the scientific consensus on climate change thus we're not quite sure yet ahead simply not true the vast majority of jobs is sitting Queensland are in metallurgical call and they didn't really go out and talk to people in journalism another concern cited by journalists was that audiences simply daren't Shen but boy politicians in Queensland and by key unions in Queensland jobs were going to be destroyed unless the Adani Mind in camera gentleness did not challenge Adani's figures about the number of jobs that thy Sir would be generated by that mine climbs not just by the coalition describe the link between humans burning fossil fuels the heating of the planet that suddenly everybody would wake up and I think understanding that the story of climate change is experienced by people in different ways in different genres Wjr and most people the polls repeatedly show in Australia that most people want something done about it but it's always experienced this kind of background communities about what the real issues were and for that reason I say it's not that we need more advocacy journalism we need more good inge is after all the big story of the twenty th century and that it's up to the journalist to make it engaging and that doesn't mean varying away from alarmist messaging so it is important that we use we use accurate language and we are heating the planet and we are in a climate emergency this is a very the remarkable growth renewable energy not just in Australia but in countries like India and China as well and we need more journalism which as a kind of a drama an understanding how as journalists as communicators in sewn we can intervene in that something now I think that's proved to be wrong and think is also now little research which suggests that the wrong approach Tom says climate change interesting approach that a couple of scholars Smith and how have taken in talking about climate change that I talk about it as a social drama that audiences simply turning away most people neither climate change is happening most people know that the zone typic- basis for our contribution to climate really for example looks at what is happening in Australia the fact that we have a renewable energy revolution happening in Australia that renewables and not linked to blackouts Oy is the view that if we could only communicate the climate science better if we could only more accurately will not be adequately discussed in the media and in what we call the public sphere if there aren't influence Rama and frame that drama is important it also means sharing good news stories as well so it's important for us to tell the good news story about in today's amazing women we all expected mothers it's nations and global institutions and people to take some action that will be effective in this thing's true yeah but what is really important is that we put pressure on our governments we put pressure on institutions the Labor Party the opposition could not take a clear position on Australia's coal exports and it was not surprising that intial and authoritative we call in the media studies will primary definers who are making those things in issue and other words in trying to prevent the climate emergency that we are now in that's really important so what does that look like say I'm too before Akiba Guess Oh my mates Komi Tubes Tuba is a climate activist whose current vitamin themselves in said well if the live up Heidi doesn't know what it thinks about climate change the Labor Party cantera clear position on call then to take these simple ineffective steps that will make a difference to the climate emergency climate change is a political issue it is not about individual behavior as a political issue and we need to get those messages out there by giving audiences as since that that it is possible for government spoke profile picture boasts an impressive three hundred likes featuring her standing on top of a bus stop with a megaphone at the most recent strike for clients she that the notion of baseload power in strata is one that is near completely admited so that's the kind of job in particular politicians and one of the problems that we've had with the debate about climate change in his own it was really apparent in the last election was that yeah how do we believe that climate policy Tom says once journalists engage their audiences they must encourage them to put pressure on governments. We're often communication science in the media score here at Indiana University NATO's brought onto a team at Indiana to examine how activism can motivate others to take action be powerful but is it enough according to Nathaniel Geigo maybe with just enough coverage I am an assistant professor of changing changing people's perspectives and people are increasingly being exposed to different information we anticipated potentially that the conservative and win it but there's only so much journalists can do the rest is up to the politicians political issues regardless of whether it's comet China Joe Naught on behalf of Al Babies yet to come and the people's climate march and six hundred people surveyed represented all age groups education levels and political beliefs certainly media plays a huge part and sold because other research showed that the way that we view climate advocates actually influences potentially influences our willingness to type the climate strikes will lead by children following in the footsteps of Climate Activists Greta Tune Bug the mobilization of people especially children shocked the turnout to be frank I was like all like fifty thousand I call take that like that's amazing I've always wanted to know what it would be like to attend and the research is examined public opinion DASA before and after two huge climate protests in the US back in two thousand seventeen the march for science so you actually have a new generation of young people coming into the world then that's really uncertain and quite scary on the trajectory that we're on and makes doing stuff like this we might go out and actually oppose action climate change and what we found was was after the marches that people actually viewed climate advocates less negatively and engage with the issue either to you know go out and support climate action or potentially to get if we're angry enough symbol to break through echo chambers within different sorts of Media The tame also assess public perception of the marches themselves we did this we looked at this specifically cleaning media might not have covered the marches favorably and that it might not have had as positive impact on on people consuming that media but what our data says essentially exactly the office set and we were surprised to see that after the marches that that difference had largely gone away that the people consuming the conservative media became more optimistic and actually after the marches the people consume conservative media where actually about as optimistic as people consuming liberal media and suggest the potential that these marches are actually protests that big when you rock up and you just you lose all your friends and your foreign reception is out because there is that many people that that's just absolutely the new research will demonstrate similar findings that this new wave of young protesters will have an impact but he also knows that not everyone thinks in those in that sense relative to before the marches so we found after the marches people viewed climate advocates as less arrogance less dictatorial less typical strategy that they would use Tuba has experienced that dismissive culture online I made the mistake of rating the common thread on one of these was honestly sorry haunt me Tuba was part of a movement which saw hundreds of thousands rally across the country for climate action in September plus thousands more across the globe which is that we just need to change our behavior individuals you know we need to stop driving our cows late so we need to eight Lewis made at Cetera et Cetera all of them and so this is the sort of thing that you might expect if somebody wanted to discount what a child says you might you might assume that dismissing them as naive or incompetent Australian prime minister Scott Morrison made his views on climate change pretty clear when he declared the climate change debate is subjecting Australian children too you needless anxiety and recently radical protest groups like extinction rebellion have attracted their earn criticism with homes essence which based on the previous research we conducted suggests that there might be some potential benefits towards these marches in terms of changing large protests sort of normalized the idea of climate advocacy climate activism whether it would make this be perceived as more of a normal thing says Minister Peter Dawson calling out the protesters as fringe-dwellers and claiming they should face mandatory jail sentences and welfare cuts that we care about but on the other hand if someone who's young or child says something that we can dismiss them as well they mean well but they're incompetent they're sort of naive replaying substantial roles their social psychological research their points to the way that we relate to different groups of people in different sorts of people in society there's People's relation to the climate movement and how likely are engaged he has this way it's really interesting sort of how how these protests are led the fact that they were led largely by youth and in many cases you know they were teenagers climate strike videos and Nina some of them some of the comments were being said like all you know go go off your damn fern stuff like that he is to sort of dimensions that we form impressions on in two dimensions that we might stereotype people on and so on the one hand with children it can be really hard and often in effect one change that we did not find is we wanted to look at whether having these really large protests you know there are hundreds of thousands of people in the US participating in these whether the his protests across the globe demanding climate action nate says these large protests on quite normalized yet to really emphasize commonalities between the people engaging in engaging in the marches and other people you know to show how these people are really just live to go and say hey these children are cruel mean evil people because typically we might see children as warm we might see them as you know people that care about us that's who parliament is yes filled with and I think there is a clear yeah there's a clear pushback from class of papal against Greta and against those are those people over there and they're they're not people like me they're not normal people and that actually led us to wonder whether it might be possible for organizers of future marches the people in my community or people in the country do and we actually didn't find evidence that people saw these things as more normal more common after the you even studio ten presente Carryanne Kennelly encouraged drivers to use protesters as speed bumps as they took to the streets in the do he says it's easy to view protesters as the other especially people like extinction rebellion who known for their theatrics we speculated that perhaps the politicians you see sky my come out and just harass Greta and and make comments about the way she looks and I think that is the you know the speed that vitriol because that's school strike is stand for I think it'll be really interesting to look at the data and see whether these children in the most recent round of these marches were having the same is the reason why people didn't change their views on this was because they might have seen the protesters as you know sort of Oh those are those environmentalists protests which is a bit surprising to us in part because these are such large protests we you know we thought people are going to see all these people doing this and this might make this seem like more of a normal thing normal people similar in many ways similar to everybody else nate thinks those noble people could be the youth room for improvement I think researchers were still learning how to how to get people engaged what sorts of strategies can be used to help people to the school kid being being boohoo and sad about the world financial reason as forgotten ring more engagement nate says nations and often a lot of really frustrating one on one conversations looking at okay I might be some someone who identifies in his environmentalist I might be someone who really think sustainability is made possible with the support of show this is really something that normal people can get engaged with Tuba agrees the youth have potential to sway opinion even my grandparents them in people's actions that I think that is something that's that's hasn't really been met maybe recently for the movement and now all of the sudden ease like that school kids really inspiring like the adult said I'm surrounded fi in my in my activists organizing obviously look look to that struggle intellect that really inspiring it's not sort of mass conversations which is you know a better way to reach large groups of people but perhaps not as effective at reaching the people that might help you know different views or consumed the I mean everybody's been children many people have children and so potentially you know showing the fact that this is an issue that children teenagers care about who might be awaits them over that is related to climate change that does seem to be a more effective way of sort of breaking through the US versus them dynamics is having these conversations person rather than effect you know sort of on a broader level I think that potentially these children could be really effective messengers at communicating about this issue for a variety of reasons our radio the University of Technology Sydney and his heard around Australia on the Community Radio Network Fink sustainability is made in Sydney feel like this is something that I can get engaged with this is sort of a broad collective action issue that needs a broader public engagement nate says making the message personal is the best occurs about the environment the first talking to might not might not see themselves as an environmentalist but they might have other values and so what is something that the two of US share that I can connect with sway political identities political ideologies and identities are increasingly becoming more of an in group out group SORTA thing is becoming more of an US versus the Julia Castle thanks for your company Media than us in the first place Tuba maintains hope for the movement you have this incredible like pessimism of the intellect but you have such optimism and editors Carl Pope mock hurts gone deemed the media's minimization of the climate crisis as one of the great journalistic failures of time they are which sits on Goggle land of the urination whose sovereignty was never seated you can subscribe to Sustainability Revie game podcast have support from different different unions.

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Episode 409: Learning to See Color in Nature, and in the Garden with artist Lorene Edwards Forkner, plus our State Focus: Montana

Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing

1:05:59 hr | 1 year ago

Episode 409: Learning to See Color in Nature, and in the Garden with artist Lorene Edwards Forkner, plus our State Focus: Montana

"Hello again and welcome back to the slow flowers podcast with Deborah Princeton episode four hundred and nine. This is the weekly podcast about American flowers and the people who grow Oh and to sign with them. It's all about making a conscious choice and I invite you to join the conversation and the creative community as we discussed the vital topics of saving our domestic flower farms and supporting a floral industry that relies a safe seasonal and local supply of flowers and foliage this podcast is brought to you by slow flowers dot com the free nationwide online directory to flora's shops and studios who designed with American grown flowers hours and to the farms that gross blooms. It's the conscious choice for buying and sending flowers and thank you to our lead sponsor Florus Review magazine. I'm delighted to serve as contributing editor for slow flowers journal found in the pages of florist review. It's the leading trade magazine in the floral industry and the only independent periodical for the retail wholesale and supplier market take advantage of the special subscription offer for members of the Sloth Ours community at Deborah Printing Dot com where you can also find the show notes for today's episode four hundred and nine our first sponsor spotlight. This Week is the Association of Specialty Cut Flower Growers Formed in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight a s C F G was created to educate unite and support commercial cut flower growers. Its mission is to help growers produce high-quality floral material and to foster and promote the local availability of that product learn more at a S. C. F. G. Dot Org the upcoming regional conference takes place this weekend Sunday July fourteenth and Monday July fifteenth in Maine. It's called in the thick of it. The gathering features flower farm tours networking with other growers. I and bonus tours of Johnny selected seats and the Coastal Maine Botanical Gardens all have linked to those details in today's show notes. If you want to get in on this opportunity coming up this weekend our theme for two thousand Nineteen Fifty states of slow flowers continues today with George heart of hearts garden and nursery in Missoula Montana listened for my conversation with George in the second portion of this episode. Oh my gosh slow flowers podcast listeners you are in and for a wonderful treat today because my guest is one of my lifelong friends and dearest sisters in all sorts of horticultural floral and artistic adventures in this world it is my deepest privilege to introduce you to artists and designer writer and editor and educator Laurine Edwards Faulkner Lorena is a columnist for the Seattle Times weekly gardening column called Grow Along with her colleague Colin McRae of Seattle Urban Farm Company. She is author author of five books including the Timber Press Guide to vegetable gardening in the Pacific northwest and handmade garden projects bestselling titles from Timber Laurine owned a popular and beloved Boutique Specialty Nursery in Seattle for more than a decade called Fremont Gardens. She has served on the boards of a number of horticultural organizations. She has edited a Horticulture Journal and she's the designer of two gold medal display gardens at the northwest flower Lauren Gardens show including one that earned best in show and people's choice. I think most recently lorraine's creative life can be found on instagram where at Gardener Cook she is in the second year creating creating and sharing a series called seeing color in the garden. Laurien started this project on April third two thousand eighteen as part of the Hashtag the one hundred day project. She called it one hundred days of seeing color color in the garden Lorraine continued her series through the subsequent months and this past April of two thousand nineteen. She kicked off another one hundred days of seeing color in the gardens the second part of this series which concludes today July tenth so our our timing is perfect to sit down with lean and learn more about this visually engaging spiritually uplifting creative project and the woman behind it. I'm so happy you're joining my chat with his highly intuitive observer of Color in nature in plants what's in flowers and even in the kind of organic objects you might pick up on a walk and drop into your pocket when she kicked off one hundred days of seeing color in the garden laurine wrote this on her blog and so it begins the one hundred day project chickpeas here and so am I well sort of these days life is charged with loss in Krief on many levels but if I'm honest with myself and desperately trying to keep on keeping on I have to acknowledge that without great love and joy there would be nothing to lose nothing to grieve so however hard this pain is a gift one hundred days of seeing color in the garden will be my daily practice starting today. My hope is that this daily interval focused on seeing my beloved loved garden will provide refuge and away forward. They say that time heals. I'm curious to watch that unfold. How cool will it be to witness the process playing out in real time at powerful anchor for future losses so for one hundred hundred days I will be making time to see an interpret color in my garden? It's basically permission to pause and play Laurien continues. This idea had to be something simple intuitive and soothing. I'd like to say color is my native tongue and I'd pretty much lost all other words. It's now nearly one hundred days later and while I'm not counting I m still painting seeing color in the garden has become a daily practice permission to step away from Work House Garden Garden even play when I sit down at my table with my oh so humble watercolors a brush and blank sheets of Watercolor paper the world goes calm occasionally. I get asked how I don't know how else to describe it but seeing with all five senses things go quiet time stops and everything is focused on the blossom twig rock or the occasional snail. My Paints are nothing special but they're familiar to me and I feel comfortable with the visual vocabulary very developed with them for all that this project has played out in public on instagram. It's still feels strange to write about something so intimate and deeply personal except that along with my finding a measure a piece I have also found a community of people all who are also in pain stressed or simply in need of a little colorful refreshment. A criminal court has been struck Lorraine concludes at the end of the day the swatches and test strips are my secret sauce a record of how I hunt and peck back and foraged for the right color the paintings themselves without their subject pretty flat and lifeless compared to the energy of painting plus a plant but these little swatch strips please me to no end so I'm excited to share my conversation with Lorraine and I'll share lots of photos of her and her beautiful color studies in today's show notes at Deborah printing dot com including links to all of her social places so you can discover view laurine Edwards foreigners beautiful daily ritual ritual to let's get started. Welcome back to the Slope Ours podcast with Deborah Printing and I am so excited and delighted today to introduce introduce my dear friend Lorene Edwards Faulkner Laureen is a Seattle based artist. You may know her from Instagram at Gardener Cook and she's got some amazing projects that we're going to talk about today including her current project which is called another one hundred days of seeing color in the garden so thank you for joining me Laureen. Thanks Deborah. We spend a lot of time talking that way we've been on road trips and we've been in garden tours and a crazy spots in the world and we've never recorded a podcast so thank you for saying yes today. I'm excited. Yes Okay and you'RE GONNA learn a lot about marine. Just as a quick snapshot she is the Seattle Times columnist with her colleague Colin McRae crate he's with Seattle Urban Farm Company and they produced a weekly column for the Seattle Times called Guerrero and you can find that online. I'll share a link for people arenas also the editor of five gardening books mini with the timber with timber press and <hes> you can find online at a handmade garden dot com which is also was sort of tied to one of your book titles right right so one of the books was a project called handmade garden style. Yes boy I remember even without so much project making so if you have followed a APP Gardener Cook on Instagram you have seen this amazing practice and this amazing series that Lorraine has done for over two years of love interpreting the color. She sees in her garden but it's it's gone far beyond what you originally intended. Hasn't it right right so snapshot so I have in twenty eighteen. The one hundred day project was coming up and that is an online collective where anybody can do a creative practice and commit to doing it every day A. and sharing it and it all goes under the umbrella of the one hundred eight project. It'll look Hashtag fake the one hundred day project and I had done it two years previous in nineteen eighteen eighteen. I was committed to doing it again because I love having that daily practice but it was at a time where my father had just died and there were there was just a lot of tumult in my life and twenty the eighteen twenty eight t I guess and and I I knew I had have very narrow expectations. This was not going to be a big epic practice so it was rather at the last minute in early early April. I decided that I would pick a piece of the garden and captured the colors that I saw on in sort of swatches of watercolor. <hes> this is not botanical illustration. Astray Shen I only chose watercolor because I had a set of kids watercolors really in my studio yeah figuring even growing up what they weren't even grownup watercolors at that time and and it was so simple it was just like just do this yes and do it every day and don't stop from one hundred days and I really ended up finding a tremendous amount of comfort and peace in the process. It was so simple it was so it's easy to meet those expectations at a time in my life when I was trying to help my mom with her you know grief and my own grief and my family and also if it was my still point of color and quiet it so. Do you remember the first one that you did what was it it was a vibe Burnham Bonan ten say dawn so in early April it's right at the end of its <hes> flowers all winter long in it's this really kind of Shell pink gene can <hes> soft colors <hes> I remember it because at the end of that one hundred day project in twenty eighteen I just kept going so I remember <hes> towards November number of that year when the vibe Erdem started blooming again. It's like Oh look here. You know there's a chime in this. The cycles are repeating and that's comforting and time moves on we heal and then this year twenty twenty nine thousand nine hundred when the one hundred eight projects started up again at the beginning of April. I decided to do another one hundred days of seeing color in the garden and my first painting for this year's project was again the fiber learn and bone intensity and so your piece of paper is like how big isn't four inches by four inches okay perfect for little instagram thing right also perfect for containing get all the chaos in your life like okay it can happen here and I can control four square inches Sundays. I think what struck me so much. When I saw that because you you photograph them you do the the caller study and then you lay the actual flower or leave on top of the correct and then you photograph it what what I think so many people respond to that I've spoken with and I show you off to people all the time? 'cause talk about a wonderful red girl you. It's like okay but by Bernard von Bonin defense is pink flower. How do you not just paint night squares of pink like you're seeing these layers in depths of color and in all the plant parts and <music> the multiple shades of pink but there was probably also green and Brown of some right right right so it's it's a matter I honestly I call it just concentration to see with all five senses? I mean it's yeah absolutely quiet. I can't even have anybody looking at me. I don't feel that stop looking at me. I really focused and and I also <hes> people have asked a lot about hi process and it's like I don't just paint by nine squares hit it right the first time there's a lot of hunting and pecking and mixing on my palate and then testing out swatches on these little two by four inch pieces. I've the rules <music>. I'm very strict with my rules. I can do anything within the but the pieces of paper always four by four or two by four the practice like little just little strokes on the right and I hold it up to the mountains like up nope. It's a little more than that and then I go mic some more tests intestine tested so it's this back and forth very iterative thing. It's it's happening in real time and and it's it Dorky as it sounds. I really really excited when I get the color. I'm sure because you're probably will you mentioned about concentration but I feel like it's also a major observation like you. You must be practice. Every time you see a plant you start deconstructing its color in your mind and and you're thinking about it all the time and you have a small garden. It's arboretum a teeny teeny tiny garden and I'm only painting a tiny little piece of it. It's time and it's a year round practice. <hes> so ooh I I pick weeds on walk. I've been to the beach and done sea shells or rocks there there really is you know. There's a never lacking for something to pay so you come up with me. You get excited when you've come up with your perfect palate are they're always nine squares. Sometimes you have maybe like six or something right yeah yeah and there's only been once when I just failed so quickly that I cut it out so that went only had eight squares and there was a missing hole in the paper. It's like it's like the bad square that yeah go away and I guess what I love. Is that you thin. Take a photo and then posted on instagram with your numbering them like a series outright so it'll be like eleven slash. I did that in the first year okay. I'm not doing it the second year. Honestly I love. How's the parts between the hundred project when I don't have to keep track of it? It's like I just do it. That's true because it one hundred eight project starts in April. It goes to like July live and but you're saying you just kept going Brett from July of two thousand eighteen painted April of two thousand nine hundred with a little bit looser rural set of rules. The only world that I stopped was counting okay and full disclosure depressing did try to do her own version of his with learning at risk ner because Llerena is my muse in so many ways. I'm like I'll do it to an ice got truly fifty two days or something great because you were doing words. Yes the language and and and to me that's almost almost I mean that's more demanding because you have to create steam. I just doing well but I would encourage anyone to look at all sorts of things that people are doing in one hundred day project so fascinating fascinating. I love that you put your own spin on it and now it Scott this bigger impact and I just just WanNa tell people one of the things that I love the most about what you do arenas yes. You've done their color study. You've selected the flower or the lead for the Rock and then you posted and you write something that is so much of a meditation. It's you have. Maybe you have a quote from literature or poetry. Maybe you bare your soul. Maybe you are a little a little like Sassy with the wink. I mean there's your personality is really revealed in what you write in the caption. I guess you'd call it. Yeah Yeah I mean that was one of my goals so the the practice is daily and you know and I'm posting daily I tend to paint in batches so I'll sit down and paint for you know an hour or something and do three or four different studies <hes> but then so the captions Russians or the observation or whatever that is very much the daily aspect of because it's posting and then bringing to it what I'm feeling that day which sometimes they just say without words which I think people respond to as well outbreak. We're all because we get there and there's there's also you do anything every single day and you're going to have moments of resistance and you know there are times that it just feels the most tedious boring hiring uninspired self indulgent. It's like really you're going to make time to paint your watercolor squares. When all this like the outweigh onto a life is is demanding so much <hes> and then on on the other hand yet? It's like just do it just because it's it's a daily practice so that's you know and if it doesn't turn out right today we'll you've got tomorrow and and I really have appreciated from the other side of those kind of slumps <hes> to see yeah you just push through you. Just it comes back in you know the the thrill or the excitement or just quieten piece comes back. It's so it's so seasonal and I think you know when you alluded to what you're doing. In the winter. You may be the palace God. It's really fun to watch different change right because the the nature of the light changes and so that impacts you know how you see the colors home what I'm always chuckling like a wonder what she's GonNa throw at us today and and sometimes it's like Oh yeah that's blooming in my garden to that makes sense and other times. I'm like girl. Where did you get that little like deadly it it? It has made me <hes> very very observant throughout the other twenty three hours and forty five minutes a day and I'm not doing this and it's and you know and I I do. I look for something it's like Oh. I WANNA paint that I pretty good about not picking other people's flowers yes. You're well behaved in that regard because you have enough to draw from in your own in your own garden your you mentioned that a couple years ago you did participate in one hundred project and that is actually posted on your website and that is about seeing color in the garden but it was more plus like you posted a photo of the first one that I did it was in twenty sixteen sixteen seventeen eighteen. Oh that's right and it was called my Roy g Biv world all that's right because red orange yellow green blue indigo violent. I you know how we learn. The colors of the rainbow because color is always what I'm talking about and so that project was <hes> again very simple rules that you just follow along in your own footsteps I would post a picture of something read something orange something something you know. Every day was a different color. They're seven so you don't get just I would just yeah every week and then I would just cycle back through <hes> and that was Super Fun and says yeah it was fun to look at <hes> you know oh I think people who are posting about a single topic or something on Instagram you always want to look at the grid and see what it's doing because that's another layer to something as a rhythm to that rates right so wait more so on <hes>. The Roy cheaper world <hes> because you saw that that Rainbow Repeat Mum and did you do that for one hundred days. No one hundred day <hes> The yes okay Roy G BEV was part of my first one hundred day all right well. I ask you about that because I wanted to go a little bit further back and ask you about your life as an artist we LLERENA and I met in college a long time ago. We won't tell you when the Earth was cooling the and you were fine art major and weren't you and I was a clothing textiles major and I don't think we would have ever met except we have had one art class together. I think we weren't we weren't best buddies or anything but we reunited in gardening worlds world's like twenty years later thank God he is and you were at the time <hes> standing in the Washington Arboretum <hes> Display Garden Ethanol Office Lauren Gardens Show where you would just want a gold medal and I was was like pay I know you and that was sort of I don't know when that was early. Two thousand maybe or late and I think that was two thousand one okay wow and since then you have designed and produced a second gold medal award winning best in show garden at the Northwest Hargarten show for your former nursery by Fremont gardens so the garden really was your medium as an artist for many years yeah and I would say <hes> pretty early on. I knew that I wasn't wasn't going to be a studio artist. Which of course what I blithely thought I was going to be in college <hes> and and you know I worked in other areas? I had kids and you you know always used to joke that. My son drove me to horticulture because he was such an active child. I was just outside all the time. It's like break. Don't fall off the planet so just much legitimately might as well do something while I'm out here and then I fell in love with gardening and then that became sort of all of the form and and texture and color and all those principles from art school I could apply to a three dimensional environment and in a one that also played out in time and space so it was far more like a performance or a dancer choreography right. It's not static right yeah well and you've had you've integrated your love of horticulture implants and you're F- amazing talent as an artist in too many projects I remember when you had Fremont Gardens nursery and you produce like the Groovy US newsletter and when your customers maybe once a month and I was like God this girl's a writer to you started writing not connection in right alright. How place on live you know when you back then I think there wasn't Internet but it was pretty young? This was all total a little old school post office bulk mail printed printed yeah postage. That's cool but it was it was fun to find that voice as well when I bring that up because now miniature projects do combine your writing and your <hes> art and your horticulture knowledge and that's led to book doing books and now your column with the Seattle Times and now this amazing <hes> <hes> handmade garden project and I'm just I love that you know for for me. I always didn't see myself as a creative individual. I was someone who is a writer who write about creative individuals that I sort of feel like you had they've put your like artist. You know label on hold for a while raising. It felt that way <hes> but I think I think I did that to myself. That was a box I put myself in and it absolutely didn't have to happen on that. You can bring your. I your awareness your appreciation to everything everyday well. I feel like you're doing that now to help others and I saw you brought a piece that you wrote with you that you used for workshop you taught. Would you read it to us sure let's see it says seeing color in the garden color is both a gratuitous gift and one of Nature's most sophisticated tools engineered to capture the attention of all living creatures <hes>. This is a workshop that I gave recently where I characterized it. As cultivating awareness awareness of nuance color in the garden <hes> I talked about how I began the project and how just what the practice of it on a daily basis has done for me <hes> the project which it began as a daily meditative practice has grown into a lively community community of people learning to slow down and make time to really see <hes> it's it's definitely not botanical illustration. I at one point thought that I would we have these wonderful little four by four artifacts of these watercolors. I think ever that that studio artists hasn't died in me. It's like wow I'm going to have one hundred paintings. Let's frame mounted yeah exactly and in fact they look totally dead without put the botanical on them. They just all life goes out about dimensionality is what you need yeah yeah. It's like they are what that photograph is. which is you know just snapped with my phone in my office? You know it's it's not practiced photographic. The artifact is the okay I have sense <hes> again very obsessively cut up all of the paintings so now I mad about four hundred sixty days is so I have four hundred sixty of these things and they each have you know between three nine squares on them and I'm cutting out all those individual colors and sorting them by category reds yellows oranges and my plan is to do something <hes> that I will call a landscape painting even though it would be just this abstracted color because every single one of those squares represents a color in the landscape that I saw Oh my God that guesses shivers so far I just like cutting out your precise and detailed artists. I mean the things that so you've made me are just precious and they all require intense detail like hand stitching or making hand painting of Geranium leaves for a paper plant you just if everything else is so messy in my life. I have to get really controlling on something. Well you talked about teaching this workshop. You had to sell up sold out workshops for the Northwest Horticultural Society which was sort of cool to to do it at a botanical garden <hes> I don't even know where people choosing to plants in the garden or did they bring their own actually the botanical garden I think they pictured us like plundering the landscape so they said No. You have to bring your own flower. Okay so no the coordinator of the workshop went to the Pike Place Market and got these two giant bouquets from the farmers and you know all we really need it was little tiny pieces briggs yeah exactly we could easily have plucked that <hes> in fact I would love to do. I had this fantasy of having a residency in a botanic garden where I would document a week in right in everything that's growing and they would let you clip a few sprigg his dad heading so that that makes me want to ask you how this practice could benefit not just gardeners but floral designers. I feel like it's just completely corollary. Parallel is it. Is You know I talk about it as a sophisticated tool of nature I mean those colors that are out in the world. Are there for a reason to attract pollinators or to signal yeah no ripened fruits to you know it's it's all deliberate. It's you know grand scheme and yet on a personal level it becomes ornament and joy and delight. We love colored. We decorate ourselves. CBS are world's environments with colored the outside of the building that we're sitting in right now has this glorious colorful mural that is an incredible asset to this industrial neighborhood. I mean color is power <hes> and so I think any time people can bring their attention to it. You can start to recognize you know. What color do you like? What's your favorite color classic line of all time <music> but knowing that means that we can introduce that joy that we get from that color or a color all colors into our lux as from floral perspective I think picking up and echoing winging kind of weaving threads of a of a dominant color through bouquet or through an event is is helps it hang together that it's going to resonate on a more emotional level that that just feels right <hes> you can also use it to clash? You can do something super edgy from you. Just you know pick out get out your color wheel or whatever you know red and green red and green almost vibrate when you put them together <hes> because they are opposite colors on the color wheel and yet <hes> that is one of the most common combinations in nature which is really more of a hot pink and green right and it's because that high high contrast makes those ripening fruits more available to birds and bugs to eat and you know the high relief that's why major puts red and green together interested and we just thought it was the color wheel got it was somebody who can you probably Charleston came up with. I think that that also what I see so often when I look at I checked to see what you've posted in a day and you'll post something like for example. We're looking at this and enemy that you posted and there's everything from Pale yellow to many shades of green to Pale to dark lavender and I don't know what this is. This is like an iridescent like combo color you're pulling from. A stem you're pulling from the toiling from the throat you're and I think from a designer designers point of view. If you start and I know many desires to these depths of colored that that does allow you to maybe put two you previously considered unrelated blooms together because then you start seeing those nuances so I love that yeah I've had a great time when people will leave comments on my instagram feed saying Oh you know I want those colors in my home. I felt be great and you know pillows or a rug in those colors surrounded myself with you know a painting a room or something so I love how people because certainly they're not all gardeners right <hes> right but they're drawn designers right. It's the same thing they're letting themselves. Respond to it. And what did you see someone just ask you about with I shy shadow. Apparently I think it was an original glaucous from a couple of days ago seaside daisy and it's very soft lavender's and peaches kind of a rule pool blue lilac and they're like like I shadow it's like of course it is could Mabley. Please hire me and lots of money. Come up with the eye shadow our wow and you said that when this airs which will be on the tenth of July. It's a significant for this series that day will be the end of this year's one hundred day project that will be day one hundred <hes> which is I love it because not only did I complete another one day project but I can stop counting county keeping keeping track of counting lights a little too frock to keep track of physician eighty six or eighty seven or yeah right well. Luckily in a way that instagram your instagram feet becomes your journal it right it at night right. It is is <hes> and there have been you know. This all plays out in real time so there have been some pretty in the last nearly five hundred days that I've been doing this. There've been some pretty significant. Events in our countries live politically <hes> humanity my personal family life and it's like Oh. I'm I'm going to be that person. I'm going to bring that to this process. I love that I mean we there's so much talk about authenticity Indian transparency and truth and this is this is allowing you to speak the truth about whatever it is. You're storing. I can't help but want to ask you what's next. That's often how I end and the podcast. I know you're cooking up a few things and I have a big announcement that I'm going to wrap up with but but tell us where you think this project is going to go for you. I know you've been approached by a lot of people who want posters calendars like they want. <music> own these artifacts which is which is lovely and I would like to look into what it takes to make you know whether it be cards or prince or not poster so you just need to tell them for watercolor you know wallpaper rights and whatnot again the so that hold licensing branding your thing I am working on a book project which the biggest stumbling block in my head was I very much don't think of this as a garden book I think of it as mindfulness book or Meditation Book and then of course I immediately say but I'm not the least bit of qualified to speak to any of that so I had a mind that one time <hes> so I'm I'm working on that <hes> and and so so that's like my next layer of it is is I know how it lives out online and and that <hes> that daily nece aspect of it may be a page in one of those calendars like the old it page day you know it's like how do you get that surprise. How do you get that reveal to be a part of Austin interesting and and also just kidding about the page day nobody well? It's let's see what you're saying like you. WanNa say to people don't jump to the end. Don't skip ahead forty days. You have to leave and don't even have them opposite each seen more than one at a time I you know I don't know it's it's. It's a wonderful <hes> mental exercise. Yes I mean you're in the right in the midst of it so we'll more on that in the future. Did you grow graduate from those children's watercolors are you yes well. I use a Palette of watercolors watercolors that is limited. I don't people I've had people ask me. It's like you have just like hundreds of watercolor tubes of watercolors because of course all serious watercolor people use tubes of water and it's like no no I don't now this is all mixing from a limited Palette <hes> just another great practice rob -solutely that that any given just exploring what's available within <hes> the mixing of a limited Palette you. Can you know it's it's reduced choices too and like what can I make with these colors so I use a prima watercolor palates <hes> I think it's <hes> they're hysterical because they they either number their colors or they call column by the name of a city so bundling or Dubai or which really tell you what the color your female note to note all of asked me well. What is the recipe for that? It's like I have no idea global tour but but those are available at our supply stores and I love them because they're very saturated color me but at its you know they're just tiny little pallets that don't have very many colors and those little structure put on the two by four cards. It's revealed. Maybe how much work ticket to a certain correct color yeah okay that's very much and I will say that for all that I'm completely uninspired by the four by four finished quote unquote paintings <hes> they do nothing for me but my little pile of several hundreds and hundreds of these two by four these little swatches delight me to no end and it's like making it your business cards except for their colored all over I love I love it. Wow well laureen. I Adore you adore all that I've learned in life from you totally mutual and so many great road trips ahead of it. I know I know including the one that's not happening tomorrow. High bitter about that <hes> but we may have a road trip to Santa Cruz and Laureen has agreed to be one of our feature presenters and instructors at the twenty twenty self our summit which gives me so much joy because we have a lot of planning to do and you're going due to <hes> develop something that everyone will get to participate in in seeing color intentionally in whatever flowers we ended up designing with at the Safari Summit which is going to be June twenty United Thirtieth Twenty twenty so on your calendar and you'll get to meet this wonderful woman and learned from her and <hes> that is that is something that is kind of not you don't normally see approach a a course or a session like this at a floral conference so that's why I'm super excited that you said yes when I I can't wait to find out what it's GonNa be like. It's a wonderful idea. We just have to flesh it out. Yes we do this is the teasers so people can follow you all year and then come up to you next summer and be like hey I heard you on the podcast. I've watched your feet. I followed it and even I know you'll hear stories about how you've inspired people because you stories I'd love when people say. Would you mind if I did this. It's like please please everybody play along. A woman sent me a shot of her son. You know summers out schools out. Some are people are MOMS or trying to figure out what to do with their kids and he was matching colors and he just absolutely nailed a bachelor button Lou and Lizard Heart so I just I love that that's wonderful lump. It was really really exciting. I love that you're you're not being like selfish about this. You're being generous about died. Totally want everyone you know even when teaching this workshop last week there was one point where a woman that I consider very good designer was working with it and I heard this little gasp the fine strangely excited by matching. It's a small victory. It's it's okay. It can be small but we can. We can those small but mighty small but mighty. That's maybe that's what you're tagline should be marine. Thank you so much. Is there anything else that I didn't bring up and ask you that you want to that. You want to make sure that we tell people good well. WE'RE GONNA share links to all of your places on the worldwide web and how people can follow you and subscribe to your newsletter or whatever I don't know you have one little. We'll make sure you get in touch with her and thank thank you again. This is delightful in effect that we're going to hear this on your second one hundred day <hes> yeah we should is covering. Thanks so much thanks. They need <music>. Thank you so much for joining me today. As I indulge bulge in an entirely inspiring conversation with a dear personal friend as Laurine Edwards Faulkner and I discussed she has agreed to come to the fourth annual slow flowers summit which takes place June twenty ninth and Thirtieth Twenty Twenty Twenty in Santa Cruz California in fact Laureen is the first featured presenter were announcing for twenty twenty. I'll have much more to share about her presentation at the summit and about what you can expect to experience as the planning evolves for now. Now I urge you to find a set of watercolours and begin to emulate the daily or even weekly practice of looking at flowers pedals pods leaves bark and other minute details from your own environment in a new way to let the Color Palette of nature speak to to all of your senses are second sponsor spotlight focuses on Johnny's selected sees an employee owned company that provides our industry the very best flour herb and vegetable sees supplied to farms large and small and even backyard cutting gardens like mine find the full catalog of flower seeds and bulbs at Janis Seeds Dot Com and check out my past articles featuring the wisdom and voices of numerous flower farmers. You can find the links at DEBORAH PRINTING DOT COM in today's show notes now. Let's visit Montana and meat flour farmer short heart of hearts garden and nursery based in Missoula our next installation in the fifty states of slow flowers series. I met George and Marcia Heart in September two thousand seventeen when they hosted a lovely gathering for slow flowers members in western Montana what a fabulous experience getting to see where they live and farm seeing their flowers and connecting with an incredible community thirty of growers and floral designers who are bringing local flowers to Missoula N._B._A.. Yacht hearts garden and nursery gross tulips irises peonies Fenian Dahlia's Chrysanthemums Lee Chris Rebekah Zinnias Hella bores lillies and many more flowers including several kinds of decorative grasses the hearts mission is to offer attractive locally grown flowers and bouquets to residents and businesses of Missoula and western Montana they offer several locally GLI grown varieties of lily bulbs for sale at area farmer's markets as well as perennials well-suited to western Montana cartons. I'm so pleased at Georgia agreed to jump on the line with me this week to talk about. What's happening in this community as well as to give you a preview of an event event on September twenty seventh when all return to hearts garden and you're invited checkout photos links and details in today's show notes at Deborah Printing Dot Com? Let's learn more than wealth today. I'm so excited Montana. This is part of our fifty fantasy visiting Missoula Montana and I'm so excited to introduce Jillette heart of hearts started in in Missoula Montana on March hi George how long hair debra how are you doing great. It's great to talk with you again. I visited two years ago and we had one of our gathering on a beautiful late summer early fall evening as I recall <hes> we see a property it was a very fine evening <hes> a lot of folks <hes> a lot of flower growers bear and farmers and <hes> so we had a nice dinner and good talks well. We had also Indian say than come up to join us from buying these car in Idaho was super regional. It was very nice it was it just was more that everybody <hes> everybody wanted to see and kind of get together. There was a lot of after the gathering <hes> conversations stations about <hes>. You know how we can get together and and I can't really say that we've done much but this is a you know coming up in September is kind of a follow up and so we will have <hes> the Montana floors association and <hes> as many any of the local farmers flower farmers that I can gather and we'll all be together on Friday night. Okay we'll talk about that kind of what we connected. <hes> their second invitation <hes> into that sort Jimmy want a snapshot Shaw by the State and there you are say I don't do obviously area but how does that fall into the marketplace so yes well. We're a little south and west of Missoula in vicinity called target arrange and <hes> MISSOULA's our primary market we sell to the Florus <hes> a few weddings <hes> we went to one <hes> farmers market this year <hes> because we had <hes> like fifteen hundred genie's wanted to get rid of and we were white fifteen hundred we were successful at that and so <hes> it's it's just a we're just one flower farm out here or there are several relent vicinity and <hes> I think the growing flowers in Montana is <hes> is recognize. You're starting recognized as a legitimate capitalistic <hes> out outlay. How long are your profit and I think the first time we sold something hearts garden and I think the first time we sold something in two thousand and six so we've been doing this now for thirteen years fourteen years is when and I planted and we started out we were more <hes> inclined to plant lilies because I mean they're pretty and <hes> and folks like him but what I what we found out at our first years the market was at folkestone like lilies nearly as much as we do and <hes> so we sold some I mean there was it was a pretty good market for selling bulbs and things like that and <hes> but that has tailed off over the years because I think most of the folks who like release has already acquired what they wanted and they kind of what they needed and <hes> that that's kind of the end of it really is also don't hold it quite as well as peonies so now we're more focused on being as yes <hes> we had had like thirty thousand a lilies in the ground and now we have like one thousand <hes> any roots in the ground <hes> generally taking the same area that the lillies were and are those visit your probably <hes> and Your Business <hes> I have victory combination of conceal clubs and the greenhouse hus- inside the balance of that well the a greenhouse crops <hes> it's a year round heated greenhouse geothermal and and so forth but the greenhouse crops basically ensure that we have some flowers available at all times <hes> we had a customer combined today Okay and just wanted twenty dollars where the flowers and so she got him you know they were in the greenhouse for all most of them <hes> but the <hes> outdoor crops we have <hes> in high tunnel they pretty much ensure the we have seasonal crops and it's I mean it it allows us to grow a wide number and variety of flowers for example <hes> Gosh? I don't know we probably have I don't know three hundred four hundred dollars planted and <hes> you know they're in the greenhouse. They're already. They're they're already blooming but in the fields there <hes> you know they're coming along. They're not there yet to have staggered collect. <hes> yeah harvest is pretty staggered and the the way we're selling now which is to local buyers <hes> stores and and Goral job options of what <hes> it we we're only cutting what we need and are only cutting what is sold excuse me and so with that being the case <hes> we're actually not working quite as hard which is nice 'cause we're elderly early and infirm really in in like works point he today yeah yeah it. It can be anywhere as out but <hes> because we're only cutting what we have sold <hes> <hes> we're working less and making the same more money and so it's working out pretty well that way <hes> we're just one acre one point five acre or something like that in Montana in order to get tax break. You have to be just over two acres <hes> because they're going to subtract one acre for homestead and so you know we're we're never unless we get that law change. We're never going to be a we're never we're going to get a break taxwise right and <hes> the way the farm of quote Unquote Quality One hundred commercial on it yeah the the larger farms the wheat the lintels the <hes> <hes> barley and hay and all that the larger farms they all get a break <hes> taxwise <hes> because they are and <hes> the state <hes> seems to just love him the idea of growing in flowers for profit hasn't really impacted the State Department of Agriculture yet and of course doing what it can to change that but it will be a while before they changed L. Lena's he has thirteen fourteen years even a pioneer <hes> really and what it's pretty climate. I E four <hes> yeah. We're zone for her and <hes> you know maybe it's getting a little bit warmer but <hes> yeah zone four is is what we are. There are flowers that grow in zone seven that <hes> they're very popular. <hes> Calla Lilies <hes> a couple of years but they're very popular flowers. They just can't grow here. They can't <hes> you have to keep them warmer during the winter and that's what the greenhouses has been good for. I I just WanNa go back to your comment about me up year round same that she'll turmoil greenhouse inviting of property or humidity over to the public right. I Yeah I mean we'll we'll sell ours. I anybody who wants them sure live there too so it's gotta be a constant kind of alert. You always gotta look for the customer watching them right well. <hes> usually we see the customer out you know getting the vehicle park but that isn't always the case I've come out the back door and zinc customers walking around in the back and <hes> you know just looking at our flowers and I offer to help them go down and chat with them and sometimes sometimes just looking. Around <hes> Wow <laughter> that's Montana so <hes> that that whole idea of people come in and maybe only and all right yeah so my cane in like November or December what would I be able to by <hes> by December member status Peres -I <hes> that that goes pretty constantly in flowers pretty constantly <hes>. We've got some <hes> California Mix Cabrera daisies. We've got eucalyptus trees. <hes> we've got <hes> Oregano got sage <hes> Rosemary <hes> as far as go. We've got Yaro but in December. It's really not much there. <hes> <hes> I guess an uncle is is is the biggest thing that we have in December. <hes> we've got <hes> I mean Zinnias are finished up by October and so then we plant <hes> uncles and so by December number nonglossy is showing up gobbling that up <hes> yeah they they like <hes> run on close <hes> when it's not in season in California <hes> they're they're very happy but <hes> it has been our experience win California. We're nautilus are available <hes> they can beat us on price and so it doesn't do as much good to try to sell that market. I mean there's there are places that like we're not glass but <HES> <hes> last year especially we were hard hit by <hes> likewise so it didn't it wasn't much of a crop but <hes> basically we've got <hes> you know. There's always gonNA be some color in there. I mean we can almost always billable. Okay out we we also deliver C._S._I.. Bouquets <hes> we've done that too from <hes> sometimes everywhere that you often from March until November <hes> we don't have lights in our greenhouse yet so that <hes> in in Missoula we're in a valley and so we have whether inversions that basically hold clouds and low clouds really they hold them in our valley for weeks weeks at a time and so without lights <hes> things just don't grow very well <hes>. They're very slow growing so we don't <hes> we don't generally have flowers available between November and March but you know we're probably a year away from getting lights that will <hes> you know support grow growth in those seasons well so so <hes> I'm able to come out to see you and it turned <music> out that you somehow involved with the Montana Fourth Association with Trade for I would say bory probably yeah they're they're floors that generally speaking there floors they have a brick and mortar shops and you know they have an identified clientele and identified method doing business and we just happened to sell flowers to a number of them and one of them the bitter at <hes> floral shop <hes> the owner is Lindsay Urwin and she is also the president of this year for the Montana Flow Association so so this was pretty much her idea to <hes> <hes> have the forest come out and see what a flower farm looks like <hes> in September unfortunately 'cause they always looked better in August but at the end of September yeah it'll look okay and you're going to host a barbecue or yeah. That's that's the plan <hes> the the Montana Florist Association is going to bring some <hes> boot drugs here and the people who are there for the Florist Association are going to be giving tickets and <hes> I think that everybody lady who <hes> <hes> calms who is a grower flowers was gonNA contribute ten bucks and we'll all have something to eat and then we'll eric. Please listen to you earlier. In the day we're going to you're listening to some folks from Montana Department of Agriculture and some other places <hes> just <laughter> <hes> it's hopeful <hes> I mean there. Some of them are willing to listen and <hes> most of them are from <hes> what I would describe as large egg operations and so they just they're not going to change what they think you know brings the most money to Montana and they're probably right but <hes> you know there's a significant amount of money that goes out of state and even out of country <hes> by close who are buying from Colombia and Uruguay and Californian Gordon in Texas it would be nice and that's what I keep telling them and I've got a meeting arranged for coming up next Thursday with the <hes> Montana I think it's Department of Commerce Amherst 'cause we're GONNA talk about how to <hes> how they can help. Small farmers and I'm GonNa talk about how small farmers can help them but we've been talking about this data. It's Friday September twenty expense APP starting mercy and outside of my data and George opening up busy. She won the Varsity far from the answer viner's. They'll have to intend the Montana I say <hes> I get <hes> part of this evening and laid up and so I <hes> basically that choice I they'll be a great showing if he kinda cross pollinate with maybe morning Mitchell <hes> flower and have a dialogue all the and finally in facials type attitude that idea but I think the Montana Foil Association is is more inclined to <hes> <hes> shop local <hes> than they probably ever have been <hes>. I know that we sell a lot of flowers to the bitter at but <hes> more than that they're thinking about <hes> making a web page where <hes> flower farmers in Montana China can for a year <hes> offer their flowers on their website and <hes> if it works out then those people would probably be inclined to pay the small deed to join the Montana Polo Association and I guess if it doesn't work out then those clower Palmer's we'll have figured out that they need to keep looking for a way to market their flowers but <hes> we're going to have our farmers from all across the state. I'm thinking and <hes> you know able to talk doc with people who actually could be buying their flowers. <hes> it's a pretty special opportunity. I think I'm so glad that you actually wonderful and <hes> I think I heard about what's happening in take no underscore how important excellent world and the world coming together <hes> so we'll probably <hes> Jose fighters to live only all the kind of fun way to connect people by how far mandy good very good. We'll look forward to hearing from you the short and he'll look I just put the information about this device the folly better but not so <hes> the B. B. in a show that confidence and <hes> caller healthy choice that finishes third year of what we look forward to hearing from new things that you say about powers are kind of universal and obviously great support do <hes> local growers take this all right take care bye <music> <music>. 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Legends Entertain At Rallyday 2019 and Rally GB Preview

Gravel Notes with David Evans

18:41 min | 1 year ago

Legends Entertain At Rallyday 2019 and Rally GB Preview

"The what did you do this bird what do you mean I just it'll be perfect for your potluck I got Brian Recipe from Kikkoman USA DOT COM not only is the juicy hello and welcome for quite a long time wonder why the lights flashing and discovered when tweak the season I the best week of the season is obviously coming next week with Wales lots to say in the world of running last Saturday rally day at Castle Combe one a little bit miserable this year the complete opposite it was an absolute belt absolute consummate professionals and it was it was great Craig Breen was there for the first absolutely one hundred percent right of history he's a absolute self-confessed bobble Hatha just like we so it wasn't allowed all the time during the day which is an absolute crime as far as absolutely outrageous that you might actually complain about the noise from Craig brings bring the best cars and the best drivers along for a lunchtime slot is ban Jason back in February we retraced the route that the in happened onto the circuit down back it was something completely new haven't been those quite competitive but those that road hadn't been used since eighty threes some of those likes Furio and of course the McRae's as well as a whole heap of other of an hour to do this stage and to really entertain the crowds I have never and as I turned and just listened to the noise of his six off all bouncing off the walls of Hey Jeff and dig rally an expert towncar it just went on has caused Steve Rimmer from dervish he owns a whole bunch of just legacy that Colin used on a Swedish all of these things with that and honestly the absolute Over some of you know cars in in the mid to late nineties don't remember has a say becks Williams and Ryan champion did some sterling work onstage with some really and how thoroughly enjoyed it so that was really and actually got sunburnt I mean that was how it was it quite through this this podcast yet you not getting easily fabulous to see young Max into the stories and it's I think it's ten years and salish Rabin to rally but just a fabulous honestly if you buy one issue which of course you by along by Colin McRae so yeah that's that's one to read about now we must look forward to Gbi as I mentioned last week we've seen a few BEHAN and and I was raised against him this morning and I didn't have time he was I was hoping eight an interview unfortunately I did outside a rally not really bring that to you for what he said in a nutshell is that he loved rallied and he was very much looking of interest what would create have to do to get to rally Australia an event that he was going that's a given Mickelson very much odds-on ago Andreas always goes well in Australia genuine contender there this year so he's going to be a slam dunk as well Third Awesome Sorry Soda No massively I about in Spain a soda wins in Spain ironically it probably really really assembly depending on how

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Tnak's Monte Carlo Crash Won't Slow Him Down

Gravel Notes with David Evans

21:35 min | 8 months ago

Tnak's Monte Carlo Crash Won't Slow Him Down

"Hello and welcome to gravel notes so covered on David Evans. I should have said that but I but you knew that. Anyway have you recovered from rally. Monte-carlo what an opening round. We had wasn't just sensational. It was everything that we hoped for. Let's let's face it coming into this season coming off the back of last year. We didn't really know what what to expect. Did we read loss rally Australia last year. We lost rally chilly. We lost citron. Skoda we lost the WAC launch. There was an awful lot negativity around the WRC going into Monte. We needed a really strong event For the championship to bounce back for for all of the fans around the world to really get hold listening and say yes you know this. This has the makings of a great year. And that was a brilliant way to start a very what's going to be very very great year. Tearing very novell how absolutely superb was he in the in the final stages on Sunday unbeaten Sunday perfect final day for him and completely deserves. Serves a victory. You know he really. He missed out last year by what was the second and a half something to Sebastian O.. J. He deserves that he deserved it from that first night when he was what twenty five and a half seconds quicker than than anybody in in the second stage that was heroic. You know that was a a proper great stage so I've got to say I'm delighted for Terry. I'm also delighted for Dreyer. Adama The charismatic team principal principal the hind director. Donald lives just come comes from lives. Obviously right now now Zeno where he manages behind our team but he's from Kirin and Monty was the round that he used to go to like. I used to go to the with my father. He I used to go to the Monte with it with his dad and to see you know his dad was there at the weekend and to see just the raw emotion that came from from Adama You know the guy has a lot of critics a lot people some know lots of people. Some people don't buy into I do I think he is absolutely genuine heart-on-the-sleeve on a slave great guy and to see as I say the emotion when when he won was was fantastic his wife sports about you know it's about the human aspect and we certainly only saw that with him and theory in anterior and Nicholas Jolie's co-driver. They did a very good job. But what are we to do it. You know one of the most up and down Monte Carlos we've seen in years we talked about this. Didn't we the week before that. You know you can easily lose a minute here minute. There Hoffman here but you never really kind expect it to actually happen but it did you know novell was twenty five point five seconds quicker on the second stage then. He lost a heap to to Alvin on on the Friday. And then when it all back ultimately won the event by twelve seconds it was superb achievement behind. I am a real demonstration that take that that has got quicker and his getting quicker Toyota. You're going to have all your own way this year. I would say that that's for sure but equally it. It was a strong event for Toyota and it was a super strong event. For Elvin Heavens one of the things that I was really impressed with early on. If you're going to look I stage to make a statement in Monte Carlo. You know you're gonNA really struggle okay. Terry made a great statement in that second stage where the conditions are very tricky changeable but the warm place that you know everybody will push hard is when you've got consistently dry stage when the conditions are very predictable. Everybody's on the same tie the super soft or whatever of a and it's a level playing field that was the first stage Sebestyen. OJ quickest he got in there. He knew that he had the opportunity to put that market down and to really show the world what he could do in a in a Uris and he did it beautifully but after that didn't he struggle to keep hold of of Alvin Evans Have Evans was brilliant. On Friday morning nothing short just as much praise as we give Terry for his perfect Sunday we should give twelve infringe perfect Friday morning joining unbeatable on as I three stages Elvin was the guy who got hold of the Yarra for me and felt more comfortable more quickly you know there was some bumpy road roots around gap. An elven was on it. You know he was. He was comfortable in the car. He could understand that you could read predict it all J. struggled a little bit. You know certainly in in the morning on the first run. It took time for him to understand what college doing generally got quick as always does on the second run but yet a- as much as we offer huge congratulations to tearing avail. We have to offer seriously big commiserations to Elven in an Scott Mountain. They did a stunning job Ryan until Saturday night Sunday. The feeling wasn't quite the same. An elven said that he found found himself. Having to push the car. Push on overdrive a little bit and that's where the seconds go you know that just going a bit too hard into the corner. He didn't find the same feeling. The stages are very very different from from gap. Where you've got more countries ice ages down south to the ounce where the they're much more of the kind of a racetrack obviously very changeable conditions and Alvin? Just couldn't find the same feeling that it had on the first the first few days it was such tame and he knew as soon as your Internet I as to feeling wasn't that and he could see a time starting to go ashamed that he lost out first goes to the win any law second but still third podium fabulous result for his first time out Toyota. He must keep in mind that he must take a huge amount of strength and from what he achieved from. Hin score achieved in in Montana and move forward to Sweden typically another classic dry from him where where he was comfortable. It was quick. Didn't want to risk everything. And as he rightly pointed out. Perhaps or tonic. Did risk illiterate. Mommy so what happened to him. ONSTAGE onstage four when he crashed off the road in spectacular fashion that's not as way OJ will build and build and build until he's comfortable with the car completely and and then he let rip and no point. I don't think did he feel one hundred percent comfortable on the bumps and this and that to actually really give the car its head that time will come. Make no doubt no doubt even and we're just going to say more and more speed from from Seb when it does quick mention of Toyota found huge disappointment on Sunday afternoon in monte-carlo They'd had they'd gone into the day first first and second they came out of it second second and third. Yes or just doing the math so I think there's a real feeling that they lost the event rather than tearing the winning. I don't know one thing that I spoke to Lindstrom after I said you know we all disappointed. Of course we could have a win here. We have two drivers in the win but we shouldn't lose sight of the fact we've got three drivers in the top five that's impressive. They lead the manufacturers three nerves in the top five all four drivers in the top seven Kelly Rovanpera era fifth delivered. One of the most brilliant just brilliant but in terms of the pace it was superb. You know where again again where it was dry where he knew he could push and have go. He went quickly. He went very quickly. Then for me you know as as much as it was a brilliant driving it was also one one of the most mature thinking drives. I've ever seen for nineteen year old to understand to come right back and have the presence of mind to just slow himself right down where there was any kind of risk any. Did you know we watched him in a couple of places on some really icy bits where he kinda thought. I'll have a bit of a go here. He didn't he he literally wound the IRS. Back and just do just tiptoed across the ice it was. It was incredible. And just as I say maturity way way way beyond Sunday's years for me that was one of drives of the rally. Kelly won't agree at all because he had massive frustration at having to wind himself back and just take Jacob time learn what he's doing but it was so important that he did that and again takemoto at Ceuta. Great Okay had worn minor liner off into a snowbank otherwise very very solid event one of his best and one of the most difficult Monte. We've had in years. He he showed real potential so huge number of reasons to be cheerful photo in fact four reasons to be cheerful for Toyota and plenty look forward to moving on with them. We should talk. Oh come out tonic. It was a huge accident again. You know he tends to have these kind of crashes that really grabbed the headlines and footage of it will go viral as it did But ultimately the first part of the accident it was if you can have good accident that was because as we saw the energy dissipated he said the accident rolls on and on like that the worst thing we have is the big impact you know the huge g loading sudden stop. That's we don't like those and what we didn't like about tax crash was the last bit where he dropped thirty meters or something off the edge of a cliff. That wasn't clever and that that was not nice for anybody but the boys are out there. Okay Nice in a hospital just to keep an eye on master. After the number of Jesus they went through but good A. and Tannock journalists. I said to me when we'd spoken to calm Saturday when he was out of hospital. They don't buy into all of this provider auto and all of this are not affected by this. That's Tannock you know. I'm sorry he is that cool. You know he's the guy that shriners way way out of a car. That was the bottom of a lake. He's the guy that his car caught fire in Portugal the year after or whenever is after the year after his car caught fire in Portugal he ran into the fire to pull it out. He was the one that was attached to Toho to hold the car out of the FI. You know he is that cool and he will move on from this. It's it's a big big crash but it won't slow down. It won't play on his mind. He's down there. He's moved on like you said you know he is now all about the gravel all the loose surface setup. He'll go and do a long test with the hind. I get ready Sweden and crack on from there. He does obviously have a good place on the road for Sweden. If we get snow whatever the condition certainly is probably going to have a good position in Mexico So you'd have to say you know he would potentially go certainly to Mexico as favourite. So yeah what else can we talk about. We can talk m sport a mixed bag particularly the transmission problem. That team you shouldn't in had on the first night was a real shame. Nothing team has ever had before. I think that they're talking about hydraulic draw related issue as a completely new for them and a real shame because synonym for me would have been he would have been pushing fourth or fifth around and that could have given team even more good points. lappy drove well on his on his debut. Didn't he you know. He took his time where he wasn't confident. He backed off. He had a few issues with his eyes note. Crude not quite getting new information. He wanted from them but again as he got to learn the car he got quicker and quicker. We saw this with lappy last year in in a citrus. When the confidence comes my goodness he is very very quick? When the confidence isn't there he can really struggle and we saw that at times and Monte him lose his head a little bit in terms of the fact that we couldn't really get on onto to the same pages the car it's coming and it will together and you know they took good points from fourth Philippi and and and what was the eighth? So you know it's it's not the the end of the world at all green difficult one obviously very disappointing for Gusta miss out. Only the top sixty cars go through to run over the tyranny and all of the Sunday stages simply because the Monte organizes can't do. The tulips are stages with any more than sixty. That's all they can fit through so it's a real race on Saturday night to make Internet top sixteen. I think ended up sixty six or something and after what he described as the worst just moments of his career that was it was a tricky crash. Wasn't that you know you could kinda see what he was trying to do it. That really icy happened left. But it just didn't quite come off he will bounce back There's no doubt you know gus is not a guy short on self confidence and we'll I'm sure we'll see him back stronger. Where will we say him? That's the big question isn't it. Let's take a break now and when we come back we will talk about round to breath. So welcome back to growl knows round two. Where is it going to be oriented Sweden around two or skipping around too and actually go directly to Mexico? What am I talking about snow? Do we have an answering. Do we need any in Sweden. This is the Glenn also saying that guy is the CEO of rally Sweden and and he said to me that essentially snow is not an absolute necessity for the stages. It's good for the pictures. Of course it is and you know a winter rally with with snow is a definite winter rally without snow is it not just essentially the pictures not just rally. Gb kind of pictures or a wet thousand lakes eggs or something. I don't know we don't need the snow. According to what we do need one hundred percent is very very very cold icy roads. We need the is that there is will give the studs something to grip onto and it will potentially stop the roads being shredded by those those studs on the car is this perennial question isn't it. Is You know is waiting to happen. We get tired of asking the question but you know. Imagine Agean. How Sweden organizers failed? You know they their face to this every year and it is. It's a bit of a nightmare for them and the answer is always talking about. Yeah go off offer go. Further North Korea maybe skip Sweden go straight to the Arctic rally which have fabulous conditions. Weeks ago it's not that easy it's really not you know. There's a place called oray in in the north of Sweden where we could probably even go back to the frozen to the frozen lake stages but the trouble is anywhere that's got some hills Elsa undulations some snow north in Sweden. It's called a ski resort and we much as we want to go in there and take over all the hotels the hotels details full anyway. You know there's not the space for us to go there. It's not that simple. You know there are areas office and all of these places we. I should put our faith in the fact that people Glenn Olsen and the Rally Sweden organizers are investigating and looking and if not then they should lose their end of the championship but I know for a fact they are witold via decision affirmed decision one way or the other by Monday. We're told that there is snow coming to Sweden with told the temperatures are dropping Willa temperatures. Drop enough. I don't know who knows The minute we are absolutely in the hands of God's we just don't know so let's say it will be a huge shame if we don't get to go to Sweden one of my favorite events but it would be a very very different rally without any snow. You know the remember sixteen. Obviously we got there and the weather held held a gun today. Events head through throughout Out The ricky and eventually we just about made it to some stages but it just wasn't ideal not by any stretch on. I think it will compromise job if we run without any snow. It'll look And much is I genuinely hate to say it could potentially actually be the end of the event. I don't know we have to say it's difficult future and I genuinely fail. For for the organizers of the event. It's it's it's a tricky on because particularly you know when we get the right conditions there is nowhere better than Sweden to to watch around. It is quite magical to see these cars absolutely flat out in sixty balancing the knife edge on those skinny ties. And it's amazing and the whole experience is fabulous. So let's see let's cross our fingers and hope that the weather gods deliver forest. Actually they're probably time just for one piece of news for me. I as you may have redden in my column in Motorsport News and all to export I'm leaving This is the the final gravel notes and my my last week with with Motorsport Network It's it's been a very difficult decision to make And I just failed. You know quite right now. I'm ready for a for a new challenge. I'm not going to go on for long hair. I'm hardly johnnym leaving today. Program I it's just an opportunity to say a huge thank hugh to all the people who have read Mein. Nonsense down is twenty three and a half years and I've been absolutely privileged To work with some some great people at Tisdale Haymarket and Motorsport Network and autism. What media it's been? It's been an absolute blast. And you know from the day that I walked into stand at house in September nineteen ninety-six absolutely lived the dream of this job. It's it's been quite extraordinary meeting heroes. You know a lot of people talk about. You should never meet heroes. 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What Tanaks Hyundai move means for the WRC driver market

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47:57 min | 11 months ago

What Tanaks Hyundai move means for the WRC driver market

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You've this this massive news about some axo plenty for you to be writing about. Yeah not always lots to write about with was rallying eras you know and yet it has been. It's been a tremendous season. You'd like to say it's been super competitive but actually as you look at the the gap that's grown. From the media onwards it's really been tax championship to lose but it was. It was great to see him sale in Spain. And as you say huge news news after during rally Spain actually. We broke the story that that he was leaving Toyota almost almost unprecedented In WRC for a champion to leave that team and go elsewhere but obviously we. We saw it in two thousand one. Richard Burns left for for Persia. But yeah really big news and a great championship having you know he's really deserved. It was it was right in with a shot at last year but this year he finally finished a job. How big a surprise was this move on songs about for awhile so you seem to suggest loss time year on that it was? That was a strong possibility. Relatives could happen so I guess it wasn't a complete bowl for the blue but I guess as you say when you get a championed moving away from the same. He's just he's just one of the little for that. That is a a pretty big cool it is. It is big news. It was really difficult because I was out in Estonia in April for the for the for the launch of tax film and and talk to in quite a lot out there about you know what's the future. What are you going to do? And he said one thing I absolutely want is I want to get this tempered. Uh this this this move. My future sorted really quickly so that it doesn't essentially occupying head space. What I'm going through the championship fight later? So really ideally for him. He wanted sorted by June July time and that was the timeframe he sat out with. Toyota was to get this deal in place and everybody myself included. Thought that you know he would stay there you know. Why wouldn't you stay with the best resort team? You know the probably the fastest car arguably the brightest future the world's biggest manufacturer so we all thought it was going that way and then of course there was the story. Malcolm Awesome worked really hard to try and find some money to bring him back back on long term a five year deal with sports and unfortunately that came up short from outcome and then assigned the frame and quite right quickly. I understood that negotiations had fallen down on a financial front with Hind. I So we almost discounted them and then we were just waiting on this Toyota Dale and and then maybe early September appears that negotiations carried on with hand-eye. Nobody really knew about this and then it got really serious and they started really seriously talking and I think there's an element of complacency not complacency. That's that's a little bit harsh. I'm not sure how seriously Toyota really talk tax considerations and move away from their team and suddenly you know the the deal was done with Hind and I and essentially called their bluff and Offi went into. It was a big deal but for a while. It's been definitely high. Indict it definitely Toyota. Maybe definitely Toyota Hind. I NAD definitely not Toyota. Oh He's gone to Hinai. It's incredible so why exactly has he been convinced to turn his back on as you put it the best. Same the fastest car and maybe the process future with a with a big manufacturer. What's been the the clincher? That's persuaded inserts. Go I think a big part of that and something that we really can't underplay here is is combined. I motor sport director at Andrea Adama. This guy has come in from the start of the you and he hasn't revolutionized team you know it's very difficult to do that. But he's certainly an extra edge to the team and I think that Adama is a a big part of the reason it's convinced teaneck. There is a good future at Hyundai. Also there is. It's it's no secret that it's not the most Komo news place in the world at Toyota right now and there are issues you know. They've been reliability issues restoring in Italy and Sardinia at ten lost. What would have been a definite win? Where the past power steering problem in the power stage and he fell from I v without a few of these issues than alternator issues? The wheel rim issues. He would have been champion. One possibly two rounds even earlier so those have played on his mind definitely through through the season behind and I have been as a more reliable is not necessarily been a quicker But I think tanks been opened up to you know the potential for development that with that car and Assay Adama has been a big player and the fact that Toyota didn't come to the table quickly enough and didn't essentially give him the answers he wanted. Give Vim. There's a lot of nonsense as well about you. Know what I wanted. And what he needed to knows all this nonsense about his own knife and fork and his own plate tweak from it doesn't want anybody sharing the absolute Douala nonsense. I know you know he like all drivers would have asked for a private plane from some of the harder how to get out of rounds maybe Mexico Argentina something like that but if he's going to be a world champion you've got to have that kind of world champion attitude and you start with a big list open. Can you whittling down till you get a small list. But that's annoyed me a little bit. You know there's been a lot of room and a lot of nonsense spoken in service park about the negotiating and kind of Stance that that tax taken and I personally I've known about all of his career and I he's a very hardman Batman to deal with But he's very fair man and I think he's done he's been quite hard done by in some of these some of these rumors But for me it was totally lost their world champion Because they couldn't essentially bring the deal that he wanted quickly enough and I don't believe it was an outlander. Steel that he was asking for and at the same time hind and Adama came and wrapped their arms around him. And he's responded tonight and an office gone. And you know what what an amazing lineup hind has next year with Jerry novel alongside. When sounds like hoyts wasn't asking you for anything you've got on your also tale so perfectly reasonable? Well exactly the only thing that I I do need a private jet. We know we know that at the helicopter and I get there. You know we can't don't be doing the taxes these days. Can we exactly exactly if you want the best job done. You need to give people the facilities to now. You mentioned the Tunnel Nouvelle Dominic. Now if I put myself in Hindus position of see from a distance it strikes me that maybe they've signed time. I can push the boat out to get him. Because they've they've got kind of this eternal second and Terry Neuville. He's clearly a very good joy that you don't win Donald World Championship rallies. Were being very good. But he does seem to be someone who it doesn't have that knack for winning titles and perhaps they've looked at some time I can feel at she. This is a guy now who can win. Titles and we've got. We've got a car that should be during that is is that fair and is it going to end up. Being that sacral sort of Baber by main man could also have an impact on New Zealand. Rice's guy market it. Make it worse than I think it is going to be. Fascinating is going to go one of those two directions. One of those two scenarios you've described teary absolutely has the ability. You're quite right to win rallies but pivotal point. We've seen mistakes room. We saw huge accident in Chile. You know just as he was starting to build real momentum with a winning Argentina. Or what have you and we started to say you know. He was coming into the championship fighters leading championships and Blah Blah Blah. And then silly silly mistakes and that was a big one and I actually think that tack will bring out the best in Nashville because terriers is. He's he's at some really really good team. Mates we've Seen Hayden pattern. Cavaliers go pattern was up there pattern actually passed them was really leading the team in two thousand sixteen but since then tear is almost all settled back a little bit we saw Mickelson Command and we thought Mikkelsen with challenges. The job Mickelson's just faded really quite badly. But there's no chance that tannock is going to fade. You know it's GonNa be fascinating because Terry's had that team absolutely elite is Beck and call for the last while from seventeen words really so to SEATAC world champion. Come in and take over the team. That's Harrys bill is going to be amazing zing and it's also going to be a huge test at what Andrey or domino can do as a as a team principal he. We've seen and make some the big goals issue. Seen him drop drivers pick drivers up. And what have you but suddenly now he's going to have to manage to drivers who are totally focused on their own ends And that for me is going to be one of the highlights of of next year. Look back how would you say a say because obviously we we've been used to the The the the kind of bobbing Sepoy the Sebastian's over the line but then more recently especially those J. Tannock we've been very positive about for quite a few years. And then he kind of felt like he was ready for its Muncie they started at midseason run. This year he's He's taken as tarmac now to the man in wwl CEO it. Does he still have to prove that these that he's got. He's got like capability. SIPE eighteen Australia in a straight fight. Will we'll see where it because you know the last time him and work together in a straight fight was seventeen. When I was in the fiesta and we saw aw tonight win win rallies say he wants Sardinia? Of course anyone. Germany in seventeen does no doubt that he has made yard work for him. That it's a really quick grey sky and and he's got it dialed into exactly what he needs. How much of his speed and his performance and everything comes car and how much comes from him? We will see next year but absolutely the One thing that I believe Tannock has discovered is how to win rallies you know he knew how to be quick and you had to drive cars quick round corners quickly all of that in the last two years. We've seen them mature massively into a driver. Who knows yeah exactly where to put the car? How much distress the car? How do you use the ties? All of that. He's become a much more rounded driver and right now you know somebody wins six rallies in a year. You know they're good. There's no doubt about that. They are very very good and I do think as as Sebastian I do not as career comes to an end You know he said that next year is definitely is finally here in the championship we've seen undoubtedly the OJ has lost cost a little bit of that superstar age that he had through his time at Volkswagen and they had it at all. And that's that's that's the detract absolutely we nothing from the guy you know. He's been at the top of his game. For for Law of years you know won six championships and as you grow older you know you and I both testify that you do get a little uh-huh and that's that's you know this is naturally. That's what's happening so it's a shame that we're not getting back at his peak at the same time on. OJ was at his Biko. Lopez speak you know you could say the same about Celestino. Couldn't either Marcus. Gronholm was coming to the end of his career when he was fighting with him. And there was nobody really okay mic. Oh Heaven and hearing these guys were there. But there was never a Colin McRae Carla Science Tommy mackinaw nor can any of these guys right right there to fight with Loeb through his career. So it's a shame but for me tannock absolutely right now. Here's the man and it's it's enough. There's an element next year. It could be sink or swim for theory. You know he has this chance to genuinely measure himself against the person that is the world champion and the best the sports next year. We'll see just how he how he measures up. Well let's say a little firm Tannock about about his season. This was recorded in in in Spain after he won the title title sites before the The Hindu news was officials. I just purely talking about his his party becoming champion. This should say originally featured on the gravel notes podcast which I would urge. Everyone subscribe if you'd like more rallying and more David Evans rather than the ones have you up. Every we manage on this fate everybody needs a bit more rallying in their life. Don't add let's face it. I don't think you sir. Maybe maybe maybe the rest of us. Maybe the rest of US teapots. Let's say what's what's Tabak had to say. I've followed your career for a long time and you just said to me that through fire or Malta and it genuinely has been has nine for last year is yeah. It's been even more than a few years but the S.. We've we've been in the fire being in the water and basically we've been everywhere and we've experienced the difficulties but as we can see today they are as a as I can feel today. You know well. The difficulties have given me some kind of strength and now finally I've been able to. I use it in a good way. How how does it feel is? That's ridiculous question. It's been just over an hour. You've been awo champion does. Does it begin to sink in a little bit. Now I think not Not really obviously pressure we experienced this weekend was Something different level will hand. I must say beginning of the week. It was quite difficult to go. Go with all this every time you come to the in the center or the you know every every time somebody else is always Ohio. How is your head and then you're feeling and things like this so you know it's Always advice reminder of risk taking and you know we knew that we had to perform will but also we knew that we didn't take any risk or we couldn't take any chances so it was difficult to dispatch together and they know how to do and what to do but during the race I learned a bit how to manage shit than how do get some more relaxed feeling and how to get back to my normal mode so And then we manage to do it and Yeah it was a a big challenge. This weekend we saw. We could all see you know through through Friday and Saturday morning early doors. Use struggling like you just tense. And and what helped you relax and get into an all driving actually Friday was not so bad. Obviously opening throw that somebody loose gravel. I believe I did everything good and I had quite good run but Saturday morning I really felt a bit stiffen. They really struggled to to get in a normal rhythm The notes were good. The car was working and everything was kind of there but myself why was really like Strict and include us all the road and I was thriving maurer by looking after every Gordon at not just by listening then I would feel. Let's say not mature about then. I knew that the only chance To do well he sees to relax. I started to normal job so so basically since the morning states by states I started to relax more and more and more and even pushing even actually just it's like backing offense starting to slowly or credit early speed up so Yeah we manage to do it and I never really went to the maximum just to limit but I just wanted to get into a courtroom and it was. I mean it was really strange because we were so focused everybody on what he had to do to stay ahead and then he went and it was suddenly. I was like well. What was that? What what it needs to do? What was that thing again? And Will you say what was it like when when OJ Ta went out his his pants staring from. I knew quite well what What chances also Jerry had fantasies the beginning that it was very strong so B never even do they fight with him to the challenge for the victory and I knew I never take this risk or he was really fast immune but generally was really fast this weekend so Yeah basically we started to follow what is happening and and Last night the the plan was that we are not going to fight. I got the same rhythm assisted. They under Anthony obviously managed to improve a bit. The started the Bush show. I was always like one second slower than him on every state and I really didn't want to do anymore so I just let it go like this and Yeah I take the maximum even if it would have continued into Australia Let's say the chances for there would have been still more theoretical than and Then yeah and then we can't stop without talking about that power stage. I have to say when the camera cut to you I I had my show more. They were open but it it just looked so in control and so quick the beginning of the stage of the I had pressure and the law states and so one and everything possible Yeah even if you want or you start to think about the things you shouldn't and Yeah I get home despite not perfect but but then I I managed to work out I managed to relax and Yeah we we basically did the job so I was. I was quite that been then. So white close to the limit definitely pushing a bit but Really Unlikely in line and Let's say much even in that house astonishing even in the beginning of that stage. It was in in your mind. And you had to consciously say so. Oh stop thinking about this and get on with driving. Yeah of course it's as as I say the stage before. This is definitely going to be a very special law stage but you know has my life I shown before nothing comes easy to me and You know I had two options to do weight that Maybe Jerry it doesn't get maximum points for too many points and maybe it just comes to me but I knew nothing comes to me in my life. I always have to fight for everything and so basically I had the only choice to fight it. Well there is one more events ago full autonomy. Can everyone else on yourself rally Australia. So so what can we expect from From from cassava what we can expect a farewell to the WAC from cassava It's it's going to be the I believe it will be the last time we go to coffs Auber. We've been there. I think for five years now but the deal is really up for the town. The town is kind of two small really to host around at the championship Great Road great great stages. But it's just not the central population there so that's one thing we'll be doing. We'll be saying goodbye. Of course there is no rally Australia. Next year. We're off the New Zealand instead but in terms of competition. Tannock as we've talked it has won the championship already. There is a superb fight for second place with tyranny on two hundred and twenty seven points and nausea and two hundred and seventeen. Now I did a gravel notes earlier this week and who what do we think get. Does anybody really care about the silver medal. Well Terry Nova clearly cares about finishing second so my head saying say because he was four years in a row. Yeah I was GonNa say he's actually quite good at finishing second so I think it has a shootout second. I bet the farm on. Yes No. You're right right. There and ten points is still quite a gap to make up. But what's really interesting in terms of the the drivers championship. It's been about those three drivers all year. Eh but the race for fourth his is incredibly close. Mickelson and Elvin Evans are the same one or two points. Then Chris meeks on ninety eight and Latvia on one thousand four team who soon and then Danny sort on eighty-nine Mickelson. Obviously he's the guy you know. He can do nothing about. He's not going to Australia so he's stuck on one or two But it would be really good for Alvin Evans to to to step up and take that fourth place given that he's missed three rounds this year it would be a real achievement achievement but equally from a British perspective. It really. It'd be great to see Chris Meek taking the fourth but let Villas Aras. Well you know. I spoke to level Earlier this week because the one thing we do have to talk about it was of course manufacture championship where Hind. I is eighteen points ahead of Toyota and I said to him at A. You know you've got to make this eighteen points up. What do you do? What's the plan? And he said it has to be flat out. All three of us have to go to try to win a rally and the there's nothing else we can do. It's never gone wrong when they tried to do. That has no absolutely no. But I'm firmly predicting a one-two-three here you you know. We've seen the likes of Chris Meek in the area mattie yeah of course they can go flat and trying to win rallies. It's one thing it it will be very very entertaining and a very exciting rally particularly when the likes of these guys are talking about going hell for leather through the woods. So there's plenty to play for in terms of manufacturers hind is been in the world championship since the start of two thousand fourteen and has never won a world title so you know the potential for them to take take something away from this year is massive and it would. It'd be a real payback for the Korean investment as well so but there is also you know there's this real storyline going on that that Tannock is obviously Toyota's world champion moving too high and I and currently hind I just ahead of Toyota intimate in the manufacturers temperature. What does tonic? Do you know if he slowed down if he took a tactical approach could he help his future. Employer edge out is current employer Blah and he takes his number one behind I And Hind and helps hind. I've become world champions. You know it's an incredible scenario. What what are you reckon? It's one of those things where even if even if he doesn't do it. Deliberately Salts Lowers lately on the last stage he has a color science rally. Gb Lights like like failure or just slide with digital something everyone yeah. Everyone thinks it's happened. I would imagine yeah it's different. I imagine you'd thank you. Want to be kind of professional and try and deliver yet. So it's this other but who knows if there's a little bit of Akron et from the way the negotiations of God but it's interesting intriguing. Supplies isn't it is totally. But you know I think and we can talk through the supply and probably. It's much more interesting for us than it is for him. Because as all drivers he will pull on his crash helm I and he will want to win that rally more than anything else And you know I'm sure if there's a rally win that he He wouldn't even for a moment. Consider giving up. No exactly exactly Australia is. It's one of the few rounds I think we've had four different winners in the last four years which is quite rare for WNYC. You've seen a lot of domination. From the as you said the Sebastian's I'm so it is quite a wide open event. It will be influenced by running order because it's been despite there's been a huge amount of rain in New South Wales in the last couple weeks. I think the stages will dry out quite quickly so Friday you. You know. We'll see tannock struggling a little bit running on the road and there's a whole Lotta guys further down the field. You Know Hayden Patterns back in an EMS book World Rally car. He's is running right at the back of the field and if it is bone dry on Friday and Australia that could give him a significant advantage. And then there's also guys there there is the likes of of Dani Sordo and lappy and soon further down the field who can really make a mark on this event inevitably when it Salah's around overseas Jason People want to make an impression though and as long as there's a lot going on in the markets worth now that we talked about tarmac kind of licking the rest of Hindus Deutsche Lineup seems to be pretty much sets as far as I can sil- that there's quite a lot of uncertainty elsewhere except for maybe a low even Sebastian O.. J. Simpson. That seems to be some question marks over the recent events. Well there is. It's difficult isn't it. Because we looked at Spain and citron identify but a development on the car. Or what have you before Spain and and actually the pace on tarmac wasn't bad it wasn't nearly as bad as it was in Germany but the difficulty that That God is there is maybe an opening at Toyo too if he can get out of his contract or citron which I would imagine is not going to be an easy job. Potentially it's an expensive and lengthy process to get out of that contract. If he did you know he could going on some big bucks with Toyota and drive a car. That is is clearly at the front of the field. I'm not entirely sure if that's a sensible thing Rosiak to do because as I say isn't bad you know you've seen it really strong on some rallies and it's improving. They've got a lot of era work coming for next year so I are you better just to sit and stay where he is. And and essentially Seattle's is career. There I don't know it's there is a huge amount going on one. One thing is sure that we know is Alvin Evans visited Toyota last week. So He's been to the factories had roundly spoken to mackinac on. And I know you told me for the last few years quite a fan of Adel Vince. So there's potential there but toilet or is in a little bit of a fixed right now if they don't get is that we don't even know for sure that they're really pushing for him or the Ajay's pushing to get out of a city contract if turtles is left without One of the Big Three. OJ novel or tank. Then it's difficult to see them. It's difficult to see them really putting together a real challenge for the Manufacturers Championship. Next year. They will always if they keep Chris Meek Latvia and if they get Evans they will have the chance to win rallies. There's no doubt about that. They've got Kelly Robbins pair obviously as their third driving new tack Emoto Catsuit to who will selected ground than fourth car but yet if they keep as as they keep Meek Latvala and get Evans they can win rallies but can they put together a championship challenge so many factors. I'm not sure it'll be very very difficult talking about the importance the last night he fails well again. Just lost a lot. Valletta John on the end of the season seems to have been slightly flatter. Yeah absolutely this. This is what he was saying on the phone. You Know He. It's been twelve years Since he's gone for a season without winning rally last year we saw him win Australia right at the last the last the last round to save that record now needs through the same again again this year. Yeah he's he's he's a guy that's had some real issues to deal with through this year. You know some personal issues which is worked through through and everybody is a fan of Jerry matter you know there is no nice guy in the service park on his day when it all works. There's no faster guy You know he's one Australia before. And I'm sure that he could do it again this this week but equally we saw mistake from Chris Meek in Spain last time out a really strong performance performance in Wales the time before so again meet needs you know he needs another strong strong result because neither of these guys have any kind of guarantee from mackinac back in and often Toyota about their futures so to go into the into the winter season. They really do need something you know. You're only as good as your last resort. Aren't you And it would certainly help then negotiating position as they went back to back to see Tommy on the back of a win and the you know the Tino we do have to talk about sports and you know if they lose Alvin Evans that leaves them in a difficult position. They've got soon under contract. That's right and as potential at Greensmith could come and step up from WBRC to pro to a full WAC campaign. But you know there's there's is not an awful lot else kind of going on firms for now So it could be another almost holding season for them if they do lose Alvin. It's it's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind. It's pain and it's getting in between you in the life you want to live CD medic target. Your pain added source. It's fast acting relief with active OTC ingredients plus the added benefits of THC free hemp oil. Get back to your life with CBD medic available online and at CBS. These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA this product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease. You mentioned the three being tannock. Adjarians felt outside of those three. Who He's the driver? If you weren't able to sign any of those that's right you need someone who gather title now always my slightly to be in a position so when it slightly year Ortiz saw him. He's kind of the best outlet because it seems to be a handful of joy is a do on that day he can win in terms of somebody's GONNA potential to string together the whole season. It's it it seems like not necessarily couplets Babb and there's no When he's quite convinced that they're able to be? The full package is Turkey in terms of drivers championship to win a drivers championship. Okay so yeah. I think you'd have to now. You'd have to look past make and I need to be looking at at ESA Pekka lappy tamous in an an elven. I do think that Alvin has got the consistency you know. That's crucially meek and level absolutely have the speed but we've seen historically they don't have the consistency to put these results together. Crest was it was so frustrating. started the brilliantly with real consistency drove. They've really sensibly. And then had all blip. I think we've now got to look past them and look at Alexa Cinnamon. We've seen great speech from cinnamon on tarmac. The second Saturday Sunday in Germany. He was sensational. So quick you know nobody quicker than him on those two days and he has real L. speed again is prone to mistakes but he's young. He's still learning he's still he's still learning the craft essentially if you look even further down the line maybe three or three years do we think Calvin Para could he be the man then he said I mean we've got the likes of Keller of Empirical we've got all of us all were coming and we will see next year when Ruben Perez in the IRS. We'll see him on the podium. We'll see him potentially winner rally early but we won't see him when a championship a couple of years. Because the difference between a really young guy like Max Frisch Donald Somebody coming to Formula One you can learn attracts quite quickly clearly and you have a lot more time with free practice with calley and all of that stuff you don't have that in in. WRC we saw this with Kibitzer and this is one of the things that Robert Cuba. It's a really struggled with as you come to a rally and like monte-carlo one of the most difficult rallies in the temperature if you take a wheel off on the first corner you're you're not coming back to that stage for another year. You know you're not coming back this afternoon. You're gone for a year and that's a years worth of experience has gone and this is where running. You know we'll see these peaks wchs of exceptional results in a really young guys but we're not going to say fight for a championship and for for until they've got until they've made those mistakes and until I've learnt the rallies and learned what it takes to make a sensitized last a really hot morning and Sardinia. That's still sort of thing that puts a championship together. So Yeah I think lappy Cinnamon Evans those those kind of guys. They've got real potential Angelou next year and going a bit further. It's it's Solberg and Reuben Param you mentioning the value of experience etc segue on Soa on to our final topic which is an interesting visa. Let's see the service park recently. Commando Alonzo ABC's confirmed he's GonNa be taken with that car rally little bit different to See that's special stage rallying. has you covered. But Roddy writing He's done things. Don't say ready rights as an AC done Morocco. Recently Seems determined into things a bit also set some good saw him. So what do you expect from him because we know how good ajoy versatile. I told you I've and adaptable jewelry. But that's as a hell of a challenge you see drivers even those with coming from rallying background that that you fail is vaguely not more relevant than what Lonzo son really take time to Tibet into this kind of thing but what what do you expect from what you hear about the the progress. He's made so far. I think the progressives made he's he's really kind of fast tracked his learning. Hasn't it you know. He's rolled the car really quickly. Damaged is broken. Bits you you know. He certainly absolutely attacking from from the outset. And that from my understanding is is Alonso's way you know he's he's gone straight in and you know a guy that is used to turning into corners at two hundred miles. An hour is not going to be afraid of a Dacca struggles to sometimes one hundred miles an hour but what it's again it's about the experience you know took Sebastien Loeb so many events to try to gown the pace you know immediately in Dacca the first year that low deductible we saw great speed on the WRC style wrote and Argentina. But when we got into the desert's it's so different it's so difficult to learn that sorta stuff and that's where I think you'll struggle Alonso it's going to take time to understand what that change of color in the surface of the road means but he's he's he's learning quickly. He's got a great team around him. You know. Nationality has teammate is tremendous you know he's he's he's got so much experience and he will draw on a lot of Nasr's experience. I'm sure that the thing that was really good for for me in Spain was just the interest that this guy bought you know the the number of journalists it came out just to see Fernando Alonzo and the humility that he bought as well. You know he doesn't expect expect anything we talked about the potential of what can be done and he pointed out the I think sixty percent of the crews that start out. Don't finish it you. That's that's an awful of retirements and he doesn't want to be one of those you know. He wants to get to the finish and if he gets to the finish without any issues. Then you talk. Ten is absolutely just the machine that he's in would be good enough to get him into the top ten. I'm sure so yeah. It's all about keeping nose clean And just driving sensibly. It's a massive any fifteen days in the middle of the desert. We don't know too much about Saudi Arabia. Obviously doc are this year is moving or next year is moving from South America to to the Middle East. So it's a completely new event but the very fact that he's coming and doing it is for me. It's a great story and you know surely the continuation of that story is that he comes and does WNYC year after. I'm sure he'd love her lover Goethe and I guess we're going to see him at Dot Gov to quite a few years he sense. See this as a as a proper multiyear project. If he's going to take on butts I guess. This is not without precedent and circuit races. Done by someone like John Lewis Schlesser. Yeah WanNA WANNA a couple of times. Although that said he was doing that sort of thing for a long time wasn't he before he a- and let's not forget. Schlesser was as much as a great driver a superb engineer as well the way that he worked on his own car Nina Lina. I still today. The schlesser buggies are some some of the best cars to dry through the junes so interesting to see how. How Alonzo gets on? It's it's still enjoying seeing drier doing some of these things and just taking on ridiculous challenges just just for that for the fun of it if you like but you know that's exactly what what is editor and you know. We saw this when when Colin McRae finished in. WRC in two thousand and three research goes to Lhamo he one is is classic. Lamont Anina an Ferrari five fifty the opening and then went straight after Dacca and was leading our had some fairly hefty shunts over there but it is great. You know you you take drive around to their natural the environment and it It provides US stories de very very much. So it's a but if a throwback to the to the old days but should we should we have all has to say about about what he's up to a straight from the horse's mouth let's Let's say from him as you read improvement being what you hoped would be so far. So I think We still have a lot to learn but Generally speaking I think I'm happy with the progress we did. I remember the media. I really had you know the first jump out of the service that it was thirty forty centimetres could not cross the jump because I was to the car and now we look back that we go meet some meters of jumps. You know It's funny to to see how how much we progress in shorter time but still to come. I think we have more tests to to do now. I think one or two tests before for the car and One more really so. I think it's going to be important to finalize everybody's working with the changing still with national setup over normally follow their setup I have Sometimes feelings that I passed the team. Sometimes they are the same as they have. Sometimes sometimes there are feelings that the car cannot improve chronic feeling of this because I feel obviously a lot of role in the car all of movement the highest peak owners but always their answer is that this is to Card you know and you are two meters high so forget about your feelings so for Formula One so there are things that they can do things that I need to adapt and but not generally I try to follow their setup because obviously they they have so much experience that For me huge help wherever they adopt. I tried to do it and adopt myself to that. Set up it's very early. But what is the objective for that or is didn't finish or the top I I I will. I will love to finish the Dakar. I statistics I saw are like sixty percent of the cars. They don't finish so everything only four cards they get to the finish will be nice to be one of those four But at the same time I would like like to feel competitive. Maybe not over the whole car but so much stages you know that you feel good and everything went fine Maybe we some of the top guys they don't have the day so to be competitive some days These one of the targets on the final result as I aside the get to the finish without any big trouble maybe the result can be also good. This was the second one you mentioned that briefly testy and yeah not not yet I think the proper Rally Carraro the World Rally Championship. Easily Terry Moore You know I have more respect to to that. I think I think the frequency on that is is is higher undercard Intense of having the navigator telling you and you need to trust that the corner the next corner is exactly as he's telling you while in the card you still driving driving. They are only telling you the direction so the Cup to follow the things so I'm anymore. Let's say respectful of how bigger chains is could be For me to do appropriately or the world rally style so if I as the Yaris for fun you will be nice to test another car. I also there the NASCAR car in Bahrain through years ago but e- if he happens only as one day but not for the future. What has been surprised you most about working with you know the time when I meet him for Landau in Qatar? I was I was waiting for him. Six o'clock and moaning In the airport you know when I met him and check the hand and I asked him if he wants to go we. We want to go to their sand dunes and he said Nassar. We need to go through the sand dunes. I need to learn more kilometer from you. I have two days here What your plan give me you know like really more power you know and I said yes this guy he wants to to learn because okay? We know WHO's coming from Formula One hour from sick with is a totally different What we do in cross country Dakar this time? was Forty five degrees outside. But his said don't worry I need to learn I need to survive You know the temperature the heat and To learn more sand Dune I was really happy for him. You know because he's very strong in mind than On we know he's one of the best Formula One driver in the world always. He asked an always to learn from experience driver. Are you surprised at how much achieved in a short space of time. Yes absolutely you know we know some people you know when when coming in our sport Take a lot of a lot lot of times. And but what he did during the three or four months. I was really surprised. You know sometime team asked me to go to South Africa. I said no too far for me. I need to stay home but for Landau on was he wants to do more kilometer because he's a new thing for him and we are so happy to to help him and to to see him across country what do you think is possible for him in Dakar enough. I event that event you know for him you need to finish without. I needed without any problem. You know but believe me top ten he can finish for for this year. Okay one last question. When are we going to say you and a yard Stereo? Say like what I say for Tommy just now I am ready to to do Safari Kenia because this is a fit for me but I tried to do some different race because we miss Argentina. We Miss Mexico In urology also in Chile the of kind this race Zeno really I like and it's fit for me because it's a tough race. I would like to do one outdoors. We'll we'll be following. Fernando Alonzo is is antics in Dhaka very closely on FACEBOOK DOT COM Thanks very much. David Evans was upset. If you enjoy David Evans and rallying chat days of scopes at Gravel Apple Notes Wherever you get this podcast from you can grow nights from that is I once a week. It is at one. So he can just slightly bemused at Y. You used the word if there if you issue if you enjoy of course they do. Everybody was running. Love me less. 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WRCs 2020 driver market and title battle

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WRCs 2020 driver market and title battle

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To find a preschool near you click the banner or visit Chester Brooke Academy Dot Com. That's Chester Brooke Academy Dot Dot Com. It's the also podcast we look back at the WWL see season so far and look ahead so what should be a thrilling three-way fights today. Only podcast will be returning to the world of modern gravel for the first time in far too long. I have to say look at the World Rally Championship season. We're in the in the the midseason gap at the moment so aplenty has gone on since we last talked about things. I'm your host show and joining me as always when Mudd is involved is even Evans seem. You've enjoyed your your first half of the W._C._C.'s. I certainly have it. It's been it's been an absolute classic. I think I always come among these midseason things and say their absolute classics but this one has been particularly entertaining. We've seen it but who knows and credibility slightly end. Did I have any credibility news I think so but no he's been good. It's been very <hes> very interesting. Once again we've seen amazing speed from from from Tannock and in some ways you know he could have he could actually have made it quite a dull first half of the year if you like because he could have one virtually every rally. I can't think of one I did. He lied in Sweden. I remember those one of any hasn't led otherwise he has been absolutely masterful and you know he's one three lead for three rounds. He should have one suddenly last time out if he had one probably would have been twenty-five thirty points. Not just the four points ahead. There is so it did win sweeten. He actually did win. Sweden sorry I terribly sorry he actually in Sweden so you're definitely leads reading so so so yeah so definitely had some issues this year you know you've seen some problems for now. Say Monte Carlo with wheel rooms that these really fragile rooms that gave some punches and then some electrical problems and of course at the last round in Sardinia all focused having knee staring issues of which with huge amounts of drama in the past age cost the victory so those issues from toe to have kept the championship really really interesting isn't just going to be a little bit lucky last year. We'll have been the best joy for but unreliability robbing him so best j just getting the best of all he's gotten winning and Terry novell looking like he's going to be a contender and then falling away the end. Yes you're going. I E may have just actually very some of the year no okay tannock is very hard to look past these three events coming up Finland Germany Turkey. He won the mall last year so if he does the same then come to Britain in a very very strong position potentially if not a champion but the Toyota hasn't been the strongest car the CITRON's getting stronger for sure in now. We've seen some real pace coming from the high end. I it was really Estonia last week. <hes> Andress Mickelson showed incredible credible pace as finished second attack. They've got some error dates at the front of the articles from suspension work done on the car all of that is going to help in Finland and make that car into a contender from the second half of the for sure Tanna cast favorite going into into into the next six rallies but at the same time the the other guys are getting quicker and you know we shouldn't forget ams port of still been there. Corsica was absolutely Alvin Evans Rally Tame Loosen them was second in Saudi last time out so there is still plenty of pace in the fiesta and Chris Meek is coming on you know he's gaining speed gaining confidence in the car. There's there's plenty can happen and then just throw in a real curve ball of course in Saudi new handed Danny Solder win yeah that one was was quite retro wasn't it. I thought that was just sort of accumulates. Gently he any certainly managed that through this year and but I have to say I've I've watched Danny throughout his career and he is without a shadow without the most popular Dr probably are equivalent of someone that Rubens Barrichello dimension going retro gain <hes> but but now it was it was really good and sodas had pace you please like Portugal and Mexico. He's got his reputation has just been atomic driver. He's not at all. Will you know he had super speed in in both of those events and and he absolutely one inside any no on pace okay didn't match tank speed but he was ahead of Tamer and these other people and it was a great event payment tellingly you know in any one of the stories we had obviously tax problem but the other story means Saudeni last time it was Gary Neville who had an absolute shocker <hes> and just at a time when Terry really needed a good strong result everything went wrong. We are really a ceramic state from from his co-driver Nikolas. You'll sel <hes> and then he kept taking the wrong tyres <hes> he kept going on hard when you need it saw or the medium and it just didn't work and I'm one sage sermon which stagey was now but you know the look like something out of Mad Max it was off the road at every of the corner it was shocker for probably his worst rally in certainly in the current generation of cars but because of that problem with Lloyd he's seven points behind going into the same though for the satanic it feels like it would be right for time actor to win this title simply because he's been he's been improving step-by-step over a long period of time and he's got this level over the past few years. He's just I remember being skeptical a few years ago when you're pushing various for up fifty that we do the end of season. You may qualify case about his performance but he's just he's just kept building tonight. He has we we've seen I you know I mean we've talked and we've written time and again about how he was dropped and sacked by Malcolm Wilson three times <hes> but Malcolm kept the faith with them and then we saw through through seventeen you know when he was beating Celestino Jane the same car that was really very absolutely came of age and it's new generation of cars really suits him. You know lots of Ero lots of power and since his moves to Toyota turn eighteen you know he has been the absolutely class of the field and I would say probably in the last twelve months. It's looking back to this time last year. He is absolutely been the quickest driver on every rally and and right now he is totally in the zone and that's that was one of the really difficult things in Sardinia. We had this Saturday evening where he was. I can't remember now half a minute. Whatever ahead of everybody <hes> and he'd done effortlessly? You know you watch these drowsy. You know you've seen the MED that they can't explain what they're doing. They're just doing it and the time is coming to them and he was in that position and and he sat we're waiting Alghero and there was no pressure there was no early check into this control so he just sat there and we chanted fifteen minutes twenty minutes. Whatever just about everything <hes> and the guy was so relaxed so comfortable <hes> probably the most comfortable seating in years and if not ever and you just Kinda thought then cranky this year has done this boy cannot be called an even you know in places like Argentina on the really quick roads too I remember d._a._R._e.? Saying this year you know the Detroit has made for these roads tax matrix as we can't beat him <hes> and they are going to really struggling no if he if absolutely nails Finland Germany's superstrong as well Turkey could be tricky because we saw last year. It's rough but what we saw it tannock last year in Turkey he was eighth or ninth at the end of the first he was nowhere but that really came to him. He bided his time. It was a proper old school really rough W._r._C. Around that you take your time you don't try and rush you. Don't try and win the rally on every corner he did that and then just the same way that everybody used to talk about Colin McRae only able to drive quick Grindley's and wind fast events call him one Corsica one safari one Cypress in that that same sort of style tack on Turkey last year just by driving quickly slowly so he can do that again into gaming for me. The issue really is with the car toe to can lose this championship. photonic tenant can only win it for them. Well that's the thing isn't it because if there's any chinks in the Armagh Eljay in the sector and those as always getting the maximum for every rally since seems to be pretty reliable from can make out so you know the the those bulls being drops events only gonna even if it's just one more problem that that's enough if it doesn't have any problems in just to keep the points and he's just going to be there isn't exactly and this is what say is superb. He is just. So good at winning you know events when times this year he's been on the podium ways absolutely no business being on the podium genuinely he was nowhere on events <hes> and he somehow managed to just get there and that's what he does us. You know he can win. All he can school well ugly time and again and he's just you know we saw him in Monte-carlo they should. He won that rally because he knows Monte so well he knows how to call the conditions. The ties everything absolutely and just experience and this is what's really told him you know so then winning Mexico it's experience and he knows that he doesn't need to to risk everything <hes> and he's just car real saw serenity about about this year but equally having said all of that he made to mistakes Sweden he put it off the road into his bank and then just the most bizarre old incident in January turned into a turned into a corner and there was a massive acid rock. You could probably see that rock from this office. It was so big he turned in and clipped and broke the front suspension or front rise room which but the broke the front suspension and that was it and you know I genuinely there was a shop. Take a breath around the place because nobody could believe this kind of schoolboy air the he just made and he and he immediately fronted up to it completely as mistake and it was an absolutely shocker but in the same way that we saw him last year in Turkey when he worked on a car at the end of the stage and he kept the current event did all hardware just the most magnificent but of mechanics if you from world champion came back to service got the completely fixed next eight went out and slid off the road you know it was absolutely bizarre and I just I hope for his his you know the season not defined by such a silly mistake <hes> but I think you know we saw gain last year that he's got the potential to right there right at finish and nobody knows this championship apart from Latvia as well as as O._J.. <hes> and he can't be right there. It does seem to be looking at the kind of before relative teammates. We've got these of three drivers really standing out. Maybe some of those Hudson cameras but if you compare that what's Australia's doing compared to <hes> Lapa US hardly rights no no building experience but but I think I say here. I think this is what we say at six or now is the O._J.. Factor Data O._J.. Brings that tenth of a second per mile or whatever to the car and everybody looked O._J.. And looked at lappy rather unfairly and said you know what else lappy doing well actually lap is probably far closer gauge where that let's see three W._n._y._C. is right now okay. He hasn't the confidence of faith in Nicasio. He's not he's not getting the speed answer but that's what got you know. It's actually more audio software rather than sections hardware. If you like that that is delivering delivering the the ultimate paster potentially win rallies <hes> but having said that you know they've got some upgrades coming. I'm not sure there's too much coming for Finland <hes> but certainly for for Turkey. They've got some stuff coming on the car neck could be just enough towards the end of the two to to potentially get O._J.. Over the line for a seventh cycle I guess we've also got the situation at Toyota Way. You've got all see tax base Jordan Erika Lavollay. He's been there for awhile little bit Monday. Chris make he's gone in there and he's been seized have been raised reasonably consistent but again whether he's he's not really gone up with the car. I think for me Chris Actually in the first three or four rallies did the perfect job. He did exactly what he sat down to do. He wasn't trying going to be quickest. He wanted to establish himself in the car and in the team obviously a new code for this year had been out of the city and for a long time last year everything was new and said that he did win. He did in shakedown stage monte-carlo so freaking jumped in and went quite quickly straightaway but once the event started he did a very good job and then we saw the mistake in Chile the silly role in Chile and then for me. One of the biggest frustrations was Portugal where going to stages a Finnish. He was eight seconds off tank for the win and then he had a spinning ultima stage dropped us and I think third was fairly safe through the power stage and then he pushed too hard in the past age and he took away lofoten broke this suspension offering that for me as much as seen me turn a page and move on in early part of the year that almost as was going back to the battle Chris that just wouldn't give it up you know because he was never we're GonNa Win Portugal from that point and it would have been more sensible just to stick for the podium <hes> so that was frustrating. It's always seems like he's got that so good. The so sensible multiplies way in yeah and then when he rams to help is just that yes it's finding incredibly difficult vulnerable and these these mistakes such huge consequences really often tiny errors they. It's finding seems to be finding that we know quickey is but just it's sweet spot. It is sweet spot unperturbed ENA DAS- benefit of an issue for Chris and passport in sixteen he found any flu and if he'd done a full year in sixteen in that day three okay benefited a little bit from running oughta be able to challenge for the championship he can do it <hes> but the trouble is I think what destabilized you a little bit is when you look at the timing board at the end of the stage and you see in the same piece of Kit that someone attack has done the time he's done <hes> so I think Chris. He's got a big second of the coming <hes> but he scored well <hes> okay. The Portugal retirement was is frustrating but there's been some top falls so let's see the big question for me is laterally you know he really has to pull out of the bag on the next on what we saw in in Sardinia just possibly the sauces role of his career and you know you mentioned a few roles in his career but this one you know downhill happen turned into just fell over and it was pathetic. You know even bye bye bye zone admission. It was a rubbish crash <hes> and that the trouble is that sends Matt into the long the six or seven weeks break thinking and it brings the pressure for Finland time and again you know we have seen area mattie struggle at home with the weight of the world on his shoulders. He told me he was going to his new summer house else of the side of the lake and he was going to fix the boiler he was going to do this with the pint he was going to do nothing to do with rallying and that's what he needs through he needs to get away everything clear his mind completely forget what he did in the first half of the get on it because for sure that boys got the pace you know he can still win Finland and he's aren't she's still still reading. His prime isn't as easy to think yeah he might be kind of independent and she's still young exactly you know the guys done two hundred rounds at a world. Oh Championship two hundred one on something but you're right. You know he's not forty. He's still in his prime but for me you know this we talk about Yari Massey China Winfield and we talk about meet Jonah in Finland but in many ways you know this is part of title. I just don't understand that they've got this guy. That's all tannock. They're trying to game across the line in Championship so why is told me not managing those drivers more than he is. You know each pass stage Tanit goes into the power wow stage and he knows he's fighting. The guys in super-quick cars the same as his for five points what I to me it doesn't make sense you know meek and level of both want to contract for next year. You know if told me was to tell them look power stage forget it. You know we have to do what we can't out and then it's absolutely fair game. <hes> and there's there's times when I fail that almost tannock is fighting the team as much as finding everybody else because he's been a drive and he wants to keep everything so fair which is absolutely laudable an admirable strange because it has palm Mitsubishi was his team his team but normally remember it was established himself. I mean offensive burns. You is there in a very early days and burns he was he was the only other driver to win a Mitsubishi but then Freddy looks came along lovely fast Freddie or steady Freddie whichever say side of the fence she say lovely Blake but he was never going to challenge Tommy. Tommy absolutely ran that team. You're quite right right but I think told me seen it from both sides <hes> and you know he wants to provide a level playing field for everybody but I'm just not sure that's the way to go into the second half of the year for each each successful toiletries win the championship isn't it so it is a lot lower meek have to be an actually in doing so that should make them stronger candidates for new contracts. You would have thought so you would have thought there is an awful lot talk about car-o-van Para <hes> and we've already written that he signed for next year as I believe three he will be in in the third Yaron next year so that means one of me can live lower exactly if taxed as you know. There's a huge amount because he's dealing with indoor source. Yeah exactly there's from what I understand. Negotiations are of course they're going on between Hind Diane spot. I don't think there's much chatter as Saddam because sections fairly well set with with an <hes> an ESA Pekka but there is a very real possibility at Santa qual leaving and you know the the sun anything undermined everything else that he'd done this year because the frustration was massive you know he'd won the event hard work and it was a problem across all four cars with the steering staring issue <hes> and that sort of thing you know it can turn driver so but we will find out I'm sure in the next two or three months Finland coming up is really the time that contract negotiations intensifying we start to find out a bit more but I would always almost be as surprised to see Tannock at Toyota as not at Toyota next year and I think from what I'm hearing potentially hind is emerging. M.'s bought Malcolm Wilson is a great heritage between Tannock and Wilson there and and absolutely would be a dream come true for to go back to M.'s ball where he started his career to sign a five-year deal to end this is career with with Malcolm but is that a cash to do that deal. That's the problem you know Malcolm's working very hard and if. Anybody can do as we saw Sebastian O._J.. Mountain Wilson can do it but there's that playing against good budget with with Hind I and a great chance to run up against the Gary Neville in the same team so I is going to be interesting but yeah you're right. Potentially is going to be one seat left philander meet to fight over next year so it's it's going to be interesting interesting decision for tarmac trip because before you it's talking about some of those things I was thinking what why would he leave so it's he's not been there for very long established as arguably politics very strong case. He's the best job in the championship. Ramon certainly probably hit Monroe J. J. so he's got manufacturer teams giving it's giving him a chance to to win the title so jumping around. It almost feels like he's at the time he's got to that level where he needs to be. The team for sustained period of of Cease Asan jumping about isn't necessarily the right thing for me I would agree with is probably not but tannock is the kind of guy that he's is not hotheaded. He's hot headed in a moment but I don't know maybe now. I haven't spoken to him for awhile. Maybe he's going back. Calm down a bit the stony win. We'll have helped <hes> for sure twelve months ago. It was difficult in a team. <hes> you know he said to me. His reception was great but then perhaps he expected too much too early and he didn't generally see eye to eye with the team to quickly last year. That's for sure that's improved this year but these small issues that keep happening they keep happening opening and that is the Hind Fisher has not so I keep saying for sure sorry for sure so that's good motivation behind. I hasn't had the pace tighter but equally hasn't really had the same number of issues and if they can can bring that car some give it some more pace in the second half of the year you would definitely say it's it's quite an attractive option and Dreyer Adama. You know the new team principal a new Mohinder Motorsport director has done an amazing job and what we've seen from odometer. Is this ability to come in and take really difficult decisions Andress Mickelson. He had a contract for fourteen rallies and we got to wells it was Corsica the first time and he said you know coming. I'm GonNa take any SORDO suggesting low anterior level. You know the driver line-up that was smacking the rest of US between the is it was so obvious but nobody actually thought that dom would have taken the decision to get rid of a contractor driver and probably under A._O.. Regime Michelle London wouldn't have taken that decision but Andre did and he said quite categorically he will do whatever it takes to win the championship. Nothing stands in his way. <hes> and I think that Dan you know that will excite tannock because he would see that if he was in this position with ninety the rest of the team would be right behind him. You know he wouldn't be probably fighting with them. On power stages everything would be directed attack <hes> and that maybe that could be the the thing that turns him. I don't know he does feel as well from a Indo perspective. That's almost missing base because Nevada. It's him win a rally on any given weaker and even event no problem. He does feel like there are some drivers across the whole year have the weakness they'll be a few events. Things on the pressure really goes on the I just I just GonNa leave something. Give something away Doug Natick. I would agree with that completely burr uh I think they'll probably we're being harsh Ontario there because he has driven that car harder than anybody else and he is trying to get more out of it and pushing hard a chilly. You know that massive shunned <hes> that he had in Chile was simply because he was pushing gene McCarthy so hard and you know you look at the number of moments two boys having just to try and keep pace with panic so that's the other side of this. If that car comes in second off of the year dairies always struggled a little the in Finland <hes> but come Germany Turkey. You know we could really see an absolute renaissance for for thier because if you go back to the star seventeen when they had the strongest car you know there's no doubt the I twenty hit the ground in his new generation in running quicken anybody in that period Terry was exactly tannock is now you know he made a stupid mistake not Stephen Mistaken in Monte he then in the thing in in <hes> encountered in round two he would should have won nice. I he runs. He should have been champion in seventeen <hes> and then the cars just gone away from him a little bit and now they're bringing it back so who's to say that Gary in in in the right car couldn't couldn't finish the season in style. I guess it's funny in a fine line has not been without eras. He seems to be able to still get the Hindu I if you have choice in a Hindu citron as Hindu is stronger is absolutely yeah it is it definitely is the thing that you I'm not you know you listen to what they've done. A lot geometry work on the C. Three and we saw arrive in the last year with Osberg and he was second he was leading the rally but still it's just not quite there because you listen to lobbies comments this year and they're the same as what bring was saying last year you notice too much gender steady cars moving too much in the middle of the corner. He can't get the confidence he needs from the car. <hes> so yeah things are coming slowly but they're not in other cars not there yet no by any means once interrupted not for a minute that David we have a look away from rallying for a second and back to I say Formula One not just Formula One butts racing car design and indeed road car design to tell everyone about the new book from the legendary Gordon Murray in conjunction with Philip Porter one formula it's <hes> I say it's a book. It's actually it's who volume hugh magnum opus is probably the word phrase taken two years to make an it's out and available now tells the whole story of Gold Murray's design career. That's fantastic illustrations good monkeys very very in that archive so that that's been rated and presented immaculately in in these books what really strikes you actually is the whole breadth of what Gordon Murray has done because we think of him as a Formula One designer Brabham McLaren but he's an automotive design and not just the McLaren f. one but while beyond his fantastic world championship when he formula the one 'cause he's done vehicle for Africa all of his car in have is there's more than thirty five Formula One cars plus all the other automotive projects. He's he's been involved in. It's <hes> it it's absolutely <hes> macular and they'll have society any motorsports or automotive. Enthusiasts needs to have this on the shelves so yeah I must admit I did call to my copy. As soon as he was released on pay for I should I didn't it comes in the huge huge box very very well packed. It's just absolutely magnificent missing now gonNA keep coming back to again and again so that's called one formula by Gordon Murray with the award winning author Philip Porter. You can find more information for that Annandale order. It's on suppress dot co Dot U._k.. Their website such <hes> Gordon Murray one form. You should find it. They're always thoroughly recommend it. It's already got pride of place on my bookshelf and now an ad from dad all right save money on car insurance when you bundle home and auto with Progressive Guy I take these off right. What is this wow? Where did you get this? I'm talking to you with the hair yeah. Where did you get this good stuff solid? That's not veneer that solid stuff progressive can't save Xavier from becoming your parents but we can't save you money when you bundle home and Auto Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and other insurance discounts not available in all states or situations. Let's go back to two W._R.. Say Another legend David Has Sebastian love getting on as <hes>. It's it's not quite full season but it's not quite a bit par season with your nose. He's usually he's done. Rallies six of the first eight and you gotta say it's been fantastic to have him back and he's really added an extra dimension to hind. I the biggest biggest disappointment for me was was Corsica when he hit a curb on. I think it was the first stage very early in the event <hes> and and ruled himself out and now you know there had been such build up to this whole O._J.. Versus lobe fight you. You know one more time. It was brilliant an all just went south from Nabet. He's low BIZ low. He has absolutely ability to <hes> to bring points home and to third place in Chile sensational relational and that showed his experience we went to Chile. Nobody had been there before. Nobody knew exactly what to expect but on the to pass rookie said Johnston wrote his notes trusted them go with that and brought the podium <hes> so and it's great to see him back. You know he's to have somebody that you can put into context talk about Marcus grown on Petter Solberg Carlos Sainz raced against these boys you know when this guy started his teammate with Colin McRae Centrum. It's it's great and it's fabulous versus journalists to be able to reach back <hes> today's memories introduced today's stories <hes>. How long did he say? I'm not sure he knows GONNA the deal for next year <hes> beyond that I don't know but it's for sure right now another for sure sorry <hes> so certainly next certainly certainly is good to have him with us this year to save the any aspirations growing to their full season again because I know he's. He seems to have always been against that but then again it's sort of it's growing six satellite is there is different concerns. It's on commitment. He's pretty shirt and he he show I'm pretty certain he would never do another full season. He doesn't like the travel doesn't like the testing doesn't that massive commitment what he wants to Louis is a handful six seven eight events of events three really enjoys and that's exactly what he's doing this year right. Now you know Hind I working very hard on him <hes> to try and do more events Germany would be the absolutely obvious one for him to do one. On it a million times or something like that <hes> but he's in his contract he's only got one more rally and we understand that that's going to be Spain so it now just depends on. I know I spoke to to surpassed in time and again and said he would you do more and he said it's knowing the plan. You know I'm enjoying doing I wanted to do seven. Rallies didn't WANNA do eight onto through seven so you know why would I changed my mind into eight so the scheduler sex was the original plan that was it no no independent serves a number has changed where but it does it does depend on what Andrey or dummy can persuade him to do and I just said how great it is to have him back in it is great tableau back but my reservation with all of that <hes> is is the way that he came back and he cost Hayden pattern his seat at the back end of last year an I two guys that should be in the championship is Hayden Pattern and Craig bring you know I think that they both fully deserve that that place <hes> when and he's still before a couple of spikes when he saw some Mickelson really struggling with the kyw just kind of totally fell for patterns sitting at home when he'd done a superb job for the team last year he done exactly and he was always kind of hung by zone ability on effort to do what the team us today they asked him to bring the time deliver points he did that on occasion could certainly gone quicker and push for more of a win but he didn't. He did what team wanted on the understanding that team with deliver seat for this year and I spoke to at the start of this year you know what about padding and quite rightly Andrey Odom. I said you know that was the old regime promised them anything and actually promised in ultimately promised him nothing but for me definitely <music> certainly patterns should be he should be there and it's we Finland and Craig Breen is there with Hind I and and also of course patterns there in Ford so you know Finland is going to be one of the best I always say this is not about. Finland is going to be one of the best rallies ever. If you'RE GONNA get excited about Prodigy Bay and again you know by February already saw fever pitch for relative but yet Finland for nearly said it Finland definitely is going to be an absolute classic in everybody's there the so much to race orders the championship and then there is this kind of private battle between pattern and brain both in in current SPEC. We'll radicals chasing you. You know the dream of a return fulltime championship for next year so yeah it's it's <hes> it's going to be an exciting one so I guess in the whole driver marketing everything everyone's waiting on San because it sounds like he's speaking so everyone exactly that's it and you know O._J.'s as obviously set for another season where he is tears. Deal is one of the two years behind die so yeah and I personally could actually say an awful lot of movement Nishino. There's no reason why Alvin Evans wouldn't go to Hyyndai because someone like Alvin has done exactly the job they would want from a number two or number three driver. He's delivered consistency. Okay it has been the mistake in the crash in monitors was a silly on an Argentina was was unfortunate but he has has shown that the the potential to deliver points regularly <hes> so I could see him moving this definitely there's a lot of movement to come in in the drive a market. We'll see you start getting thoughts about ready. Finland starts calls on the on the first of August. That's the star of the of the running so it's going towards the business end of the championship. Now isn't it so it's it's kind of one slip could could cost you exactly and we I think this time last year Diarios something like twenty seven points ahead something like that I mean the gap was huge this year the gap seven points between three drivers so that's constantly in the back of their mind. Now is it actually I'm not sure in Finland because you kind of anything in the back of your mind wind because taking these jumps flat out and six takes every space in your mind one small mistaken you're rolling seventeen signs exactly you are I mean and the margins are so small when you when you watch these cars in Finland <hes> the inner you know the pace is so incredible so Finland will be a flat out race for sure and then we come to Germany which is always tricky when the weather changing it's it can be caught a tactical rally Turkey. Laura Low knows you know amongst the rocks as I said earlier it's a proper old school rough rally which is great and then. We've got German. Sorry we've got G._B.. Mischief good Lord Go Rally G._B.. We've got Spain and Australia so three brilliant rallies place to run into the end of the year and I just hope and it goes all the way to the wild last year it did with those three drivers in Australia fighting for the championship and and as it stands now you'd have to say it's GonNa go to same way so if you had to have upon who's GonNa he's GonNa win on so many variables six events Toco. It's it's just Ashim Sebastian aw shaver when us just because you know nothing else for the last six years or so that's fifteen years following from from some distance heart sofala w when you try to look at it from the fun part yeah although your so vaccine as an ad much success has no Sebastian with an eye is a bad thing in the bone sadly yeah yeah no there is no for me uh in in W._C.. Tanna cast with you know he can only lose it from or as I say the combination of man and machine can lose it from ever tannock is absolutely driving beautifully and quicker than anybody right now. Nice Sunny seems to be as time does now think he'd be sending merits almost feel like married societal more than say someone will come down tearing out you just see him. As a as a a winner of rallies not necessarily quiet winner of a championship yeah I as I said earlier I think villas his big chance was seventeen and he dropped it. <hes> and that's not to say to chance we'll come back because Jerry is absolutely one of the top three drives in championship but you're right. It's Tannock's time right now. Going to news also talk about safari rally coming back so very rarely had its candidate event earlier this month and it's looking very strong. There's a lot of an awful of debate on a calendar. I'm actually board God of writing and talking about the calendar we were short June well council of we would have the calendar for twenty twenty and Kalsa Code Begun Germany would be gone council breeze we got no calendar and then we were told the calendar would be vote will most county vote the week after June didn't happen the week after didn't happen by the end of July didn't happen now. We're told August so hopefully these delays are who knows at I've got no idea there's debate between I mean they had to wait and see how Japan got on but my understanding was that Japan had sorry safari minds them was safari was in the calendar with an asterisk and on provided at that the Safari Kendra event ran well which take in which he did so therefore wanted to get on with it but yeah another as I was about to say I do that by January the whatever when we're about star Monte hopefully will know we're going to Sweden around two and Mexico Ansari. It's it's ridiculous. The understanding is Corsica goes. Germany goes Japan's in Kenya's in with the first reserve of Germany. If Kenya Japan fall over fourteen rounds next year. That's that's why I understand. There's some debate Beta Australia New Zealand. The promoter doesn't want to go back to coffs harbour. I Dunno it will say but it would be nice to know if you know anything. Please feel free to to shed some light. All I know is folly. Rally should be gonNA calendar. I should be and hopefully ninety nine percents your it will be excellent. Well thanks very much. David Evansville insights into the W._R._C. will be watching the second half of the season enthusiast it you know hopefully will not leave it so long before getting you back in again. Absolutely no I show I'm I'm here. 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2019/34  Mexican GP Review

Box of Neutrals

35:46 min | 11 months ago

2019/34 Mexican GP Review

"This is Fox trolls with by Calama Nacho China paid them again lane from the ABC which stands for buddies. Ah We're recording this episode this week we're not allowed to even park at the one spot because we can't afford to pay for the parking here with your house band he said f one is bullshit because just go round in circles they don't go anywhere asked about Mario Archie a lot a lot of other things have been discussed like maybe sitting on tables at a couple of girls Jerry Mariachi neutrals Yeah the profile the twitter description says Janea Figura Amigo. I don't know what it means but think actually it was a young Mc Bob Shaw Me Beta McGinley trail or if we should just ignore it especially vital instructed on the podium that's really become one of the highlights of the right not enough has been Watchi- Sam Marketing Meeting when they came up with that Weiss Mario Mario Archie Archie we will because before semi w. f. one read Mariachi. I think we should be the first to really question Mario Korea is a photo of in full racer there's a photo of Mariachi with gigantic cat I don't know if we want to make it a main in Manado Andrew James doing absolutely wonderfully on this Mexican Grand Prix review but you haven't come to terms with the it say who would be very sleep deprived would come up with his side Mario Achy official so too did around on social major you did look the I think it's genius I don't know what the Middle One means figuring soul yeah he was the sole of Mexico of the Grand Prix not of the hall count accelerate you're you're you're now not fit to survive whereas I slept I watched the highlights on Youtube and therefore I'm GonNa Form Athenian so the next the drive is we have this guy can't out I like the idea that they created to twenty eight in the morning just to Brian so so you know how the achieved it's worth two four with a one are you are you. Are you going to write the headline on vice loyal similar outlet of choice that he might be problematic also Bob Constantine the pay an answer in lieu of I think we've discussed this before the sort of a localized version of instead of now awake thinking it's a bizarre sort of Sort of thing going on there but there is the official Mexican Grand Prix mascots at mildly racist Oh my goodness could you imagine fashion Lewis Hamilton doing the casual teasing of a long neck rather than a magna motive could you imagine the twenty four the one grown pray twenty twenty Australia instead of dignitries in mock interview on will be an every would start with a capital you dislike you'll be rational agents yeah you ran over three districts on the way e crashed into the front living room of someone's house I got confused between the break in the didn't have plus we'll be Kooks from next year we'll Sud- oldest questions in this episode of neutrals the Champagne all the celebrations for nations that don't conceive alcohol we just we just change the level of Alcohol Consumption Rob James you only got three rounds to guard Vygon Diaz and he the laughter that Loftus you enjoying yourself that's laughter of a man it's quite high said of the champagne because real ozzy blogs I drink champagne instead we have maybe long that Guy Davos also of the Mexican grown pray it's a beautiful program we're GonNa talk about how Lewis Hamilton one when he shouldn't have has maximum step and didn't start on Paul when he also at the moment it would be beautiful side someone photoshop that but do you remember what could be I feel like one day we can write a book about Mariachi on Dr Tribe drivetrain dip stab I'll discuss with a Mariachi is has the hit uh-huh I feel like I've reached the acceptance day whatever the law stage of grief I'm fine here whether you're responsible for this because this idea says like someone so is this a well the podium get is now and instead of shed what will they have instead yeah he was the first night we need the racist Gome replied memorial rice go took that you had no sleep you're exhausted I'm fine I like you know what I like it I'm getting into getting around getting is is whether liberty may have gone too far with Mario Watch you remember those I think we've discussed this before shoot every grown have a rice mascot called Axel who's but there's nothing nothing ever happened nothing came of the Mascot Axel that I know of the on was right I like to think grant in Miami will be one of them at some point living off the GRANDPA talking about Mascot St Remember and icon I think it must have been the stereotype for the girls these straddling grown price you'd have the long Nick God oh yes he's not a stereotype he's an icon Xhosa in the development room in the when they were working out the prototypes of Axel was at that bad I almost want to say that perversely just waiver liberty rocked up windows are two thousand seventeen the first year whatever it was they were going to have an f. one mascot one of the great ideas of press releases for everything and if on these days if one event not announce but apparently this was the first and only appearance of axel the phone one so this could I feel like also there is one photo that's popped up on Google yourself and figure it out but apparently axel was just going to be racing driver in black overall like the hassle odds Watchi- is this could be him there's a photo on on someone's posted on read it maybe Manning F. One branded overalls at he'll be I think he could be one of them but colliding all of the ideas that were launched too soon and then he knew I all F one digital plus the his ruined it for any kind of motor racing anonymous person to get away with wearing a rice and helmet and and we he's confused but Sebastian had other reasons to be unhappy principal among them he didn't win the rice did finish second which is where he qualified but another weekend passes that Ferrari bribe issues as divisive in Formula One anymore either Dutch or not Dutch effectively like this because some of the vitriol lived against the FAA for penalizing Max and their interpretation of what happened but for US neutrals it was very much the case that e sped on the yellow flags might don't do it the biggest one of all I was yeah it was ahead of its it was so it's time to skin to look at it again Z.. Folks to log Nag what should the Israeli and grow and be moved to at twenty nine title penalize you at which point they must've gone we will and then took him off the front rogue voted essentially self reported I take crashed like the crash was right there it's not as if it was some arbitrary yellow flag not that they really are every any of them but it was a legitimate crash right come on these they will be in this great book at ideas that never happened along with the idea that happened very briefly like elimination qualifying I think this could be in this ladies and a shocking weekend really unraveled from there after because red bull racing somehow did end up with a car that looked like a rice when he after five laps was lost because he had instructors farcical barrier between them and McLaren it's only relief sort of some of the minor placings too as well as Ferrari but first let's just say red bull racing another opportunity to win loss they stuck onto wins for the year may not get another one yeah what do I have to say they're not gonna Catch Ferrari in the take off the front Ranasinghe Tim's of time but nonetheless recovered didn't have any noticeable drop-off in tides you can't help but think another rice is being lost to red bull racing for immunity I guess in the Royal Commission that ensued the F. 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Headquarters but didn't happen so he was demoted places but surely DC's slam I mean Christian a very not even not even blatantly illegal move but for Mac subsequently gloating that he broke the rule and dead the was that I get annoyed at that name High Guy Cots should be applied to form one standard as well especially considering Valerie he can't do it now because it's ridiculous you get snow possible Mar Mariachi into the beaten as far as Sebastian considering Lia- sixty five seventy one spy it's about that CCC something like that there's a lot there's a lot of lapses what saying recovered to seeks of course he was Well that was the biggest point of the mixing pre I feel you can go and find old nightmare being pushed off the podium by Sebastian ability like selfie sticks one really like employee listening to deepen your heart do you really enjoy singing happy birthday I don't think anyone does the best parts the end when you start singing social privacy I wonder if they have to hire Tuxedo Mariachi Dina I don't enjoy made me picked up a puncture fell to back of the grid because you have to pay it but didn't stop again ran what's that like sixty five laps on one set of combatants the hod compounded Ah Ferrari international assistance kicked in again and was kicked off by you because he was immediate this is an you know what you can't even had a car that should have been quick enough to win and Somehow Ferrari doesn't win the rice and mercedes-benz it with what's so the slow a car over the weekend yeah to the point where Foxtel after Formula One this is the new world rally champion which means for the first time since the truth as men three they has not is well technically had a weapon especially middle was acting in self defense doesn't have social media doesn't know what he was confused hunk to try and recover passing Veltri bought as too aggressive I think in this race paps frustrated Gripe Pasta into the stadium section until you've gotTa Punch it was the problem bank world rally champion driver named Sebastian that's pretty good since two thousand and four till the end of last year especially Lori Estonians fact Sporty by James Yeah so they have their first world rally champion attack yes a good day this this teams in the World Rally Championship about Drunk Bogin for and tried to debate with me that the world rally championship cooked every this fancy like forced dinners podcast day look forward to it I tried to get in what was trying to argue that it shouldn't have been but if you just ignore yellow flags what do you expect Sivy fe every phone with a with a grain of salt will you sorry much in life forced around enjoy force happy birthday zone I don't enjoy a forced how I try to I try to arrive at happy birthdays all tried to bend the rules they basically basically politicians and lawyers though some of the most crooked paypal you live in may be so so of course they have every right to sort of been they start tanking because no one wants to go to the shelter Koby leading a rice and then he'll will the car I would probably need the free fade when you're a was obsessed with champ car it's one day we'll have him on getting dissect this story Champ Kospi Ferrari I blow blow live specimens have won the world rally championship which means no French world champion as well let me correct who was was it French before the Sebastian's all of us because no one knows the word singing about you've probably had too many drinks anyway I starting in the Manga bus when that happened further applicable early like in Estonia that's the tradition with caught on no one knows why Ferrari though because he's a race they started on the front row he plays excite nab metal off in that pay full spots who has to go to the gala the end of the year yes basically who has to go to dinner and we in the face of the I say I got on the now I'm Lexie community and people don't know takes us I think it's a special kind of person who is genuinely enthused by a happy birthday I try they screwed it up again somehow they've managed series by the way just just quietly that's been like it's the Betamax of racing shoes when you say the couch shit but never in fact almost exactly the one year anniversary this happened in Austin lost year I'm pretty sure we got out of the car and swore so loudly you could hear it over other cards on the WHO was the previous French champion who was who who was a champion before Sebastian's Talbot Okay so it's not a long run of fridge last for free wants is it positive for Ferrari they've gotten to this point where at least throwing away racist rather never being in contention in the first place Kaleida thought rose and the water to go sleep on the straight orchestra viewing the Mexican grown pre in which the championship still alive so get excited it's Michael Ninety something from about ninety I e to hasn't four had destroyed you go it doesn't matter icing and camera did this after qualify because he qualified so I think it was out of the top ten was very upset and we've asked this question several times people all the time in fact I was at dinner with drunk Bogan friend last week and he asked me this question he's Daniel Ricardo Kooks like how is it sinking in for him now and of course we'll talk a little bit later on about how Renault we'd nothing lose nothing I guess they do lose a lot of things I made like what though well I should have won this rise what are they going to get adequate really right Sunday so there's something there that gleyber of the Dan can can cling onto but he's having I don't know doc was given the strategy vittles demise before he has out at the end of the season isn't that isn't that the narrative while he still could could have a demise and he's he's the same can name almost an entire field of drought Champa Padre has like their involvement in Formula One is potentially under cloud if you like is it be going on is a local and then of course I would disqualified from Japan we talked about that last week it was good that he had a bit of Sun night to be fair because otherwise be in also to be honest so to recover firm that that's the story so I fi- tend to have a shocking satellite spend would-be ninety four that's pretty good did he oriole knowle's plying along at home that's off the top of my memory this is good these they I think they have superior epsom is is because that I have recognizable names Colin McRae and he told me back in the drivers he grew up with on there and you correct yeah some description could do the thing where you turn the car around because you're frustrated and drive back with Dan Ricotta to being a competitive as well Oh my God I had a good race actually but despite the writings off always cooked you they they he argued the world rally to stop strategies opposed to one stop Ferrari assumed everyone else was doing something stupid by stopping anyone's and they've got the end of the ice and they realized they were doing the stupid thing and they should have stopped it's good but now that's all right good luck to McLaren I guess if your name Phanindra not going to do it especially Middle Chandler Click started from pole finished force third has been Sung Oh so you would try to other people's birthday parties after the Dow look functions all I say I told you about the column of loss it's sort of a dictator and for whatever places to be honest it's twenty twenty alerts at Well Nicki we will but what a tighter introspection biddle though to be to be up ahead of shotley cliff who wants to be fair use given the better strategy he knew this would be tough but again we've discussed this ad nauseam this year I don't think he knew you'd be the stuff it's it's it's a rude shock it wasn't in a good mood on Sunday night he was interviewed by maximum Staffan in drivers pain which you can go and look out that was worthwhile so showed that yes the road racers was what he did they box of neutrals vehicle podcast boring show mark already so one of the stories out of this one of the big ones out of this weekend has been touched earlier this idea that Renault is under review they've had all sorts of stop going on at the executive and board level CALICO and I think he's still in Japanese prison the former head of the Renner and what was meant to be the lines at snuck on well for him and finally well with noting that this was one hundred forty two one victory which is interesting mostly because I feel like pasta like it feels like after spear experienced to develop that Connex because they really have had enough of red bull not quite delivering that final few percent to to make it a regular ice winning cards it would have been interesting you know I was fascinated to hear as well and it's been a rumor that's been going around for all season I mean we keep hearing rumors all the time they used to make lunchboxes with his face on it not only that but you could in the lunchbox in Japan have rice bowls with these face on he was revived all these years I've lost they should have had more than one hundred hundred in this livery Cape plucking at different reasons to celebrate one hundred what's true and what's not about how much Maxon Yasser snapping a trying to motivate people inside red bull to make certain decisions in and they're also tied up with the Hondas so you could do that phone call get any Louis fall out of the car yeah exactly Lewis. This is val terry onto congratulate you on a great campaign well done well done and then you just knew so as long as it doesn't outscoring by twenty three points which only assume finish eighth I think it's going to be done next week so if you don't want the champion deaf and dumb that's it's right it's right that we should celebrate him we should exalted I think anyway we know what he's Amy's there is a video of him apparently each hunter there's a rumor that they weren't stick around with Red Bull or in formula line if Max leaves red bull because they want Max or drive a like him spearheading factor with stain but unbundle voiced it on TV which kind of a little bit more gravity I guess that Max or your so the staff and Campers really pushing for neither elbow nor gasoline but a drive a more a other videos of you you can find it even has an emphasis does it does or police in jail in Grand Prix of course the US Grand Prix this weekend back yes back to back one of the great back to what are the rights or the great back to backs so close to Quebec tobacco but no actually the hero they needed the whole time you mentioned that strategy is celebrating such corporate figure we only celebrate how enjoy goes to prison for tonight on all the to the maybe of top of my head since Austin Pete on the counters that Rice or am I thinking about yesterday he's what a lot of what I'm saying over to I'm going to stick with it he's why seventy four points when you need to leave seventy eight after Austin who need to lead by only fifty two points so Austin's not a bad place to win it and in fact he loves it at US and he's the back of it could be something in that I was the Mexican Grand Prix Race I saw Michael Manado Andrew James wrapping up the week yes the long story short story of that is that Hamilton hasn't won the championship despite winning this race because Veltri Botox finish on the podium as gets all they had to do to guarantee one more round useless I forget how he got onto this look it up oh Oh yes white through the rice when it's obvious you get out of the car at some point have a press conference megaphone coma throw them all out of the car or if you could somehow hook up the cod or radio that's-that's pretty substantial this Everton oh my God that works well imagine that would you would you wanNA learn I guess she I guess you could would you liz each I'll give you a message daddy and Osha had a drink lung Nixon useless can you imagine I think we if we and then we realized we need him to run quant we only celebrate people like if you're a fool batter nause this is what you'd have breakfast review yes old might Cerullo beat bowl says he's optimistic that he can convince them that the formula on program should remain maybe not with him well let's see you want him has a he's done yeah sorry you leave him he's doing he's doing rallies forget it coming back from that I think be done if you bought as fan you should slash has something else let us declare like a politician in in an election they should do on a congratulations message to which means that they could pull out at the end of twenty twenty without any financial penalty whatsoever which is in the next year obviously into Daniel's contract it's this is a delicate time underneath national hero of Nisan Aries disgraced it's like a superhero in the second act in the Third Act they realized that he v the way it goes isn't it but this is such a delicate time because we've also learned that you remember when Reno return there was this idea that they'd committed to stay in Formula One until twenty twenty three or something like that they had an offset deal when Bernie signed them up to the commercial rights it turns out that was a new deal for Indian supply and guess which end supply has no customers Alles goed in the battle of the loan mix the whole companies under review including the F one team not specifically team including the F. One take that's only fair because that does it why is it this like a channel seven miniseries the battle of the lug next I believe it that sounds great he's ah going say something new e- Haiti like that piece tap video on video and you tell me we've talked about this in the context of Daniel but this could be I mean we always talk about how many factors in Formula One can come and go as they please and have mass effect on the sport or is danger this could be one of those moments for the positive and then give them the impetus to to stick around but but then again results that necessarily made no sticker beyond that too and look if things there's still next to you to guard through so very good lineup of estimate Conan Dan ricotta next year so that it could change very very quickly and hopefully it could be yeah which will be frustrating for Dan mccotter he signed a mangas deal to your they're trying to turn the ship around Roger Detects a little off to turn around I think movement everyone can spend as much as they liked twenty one car then the budget cap comes in place and then we'll slowly eventually start to see everything out theoretically big lag between under its rules week and get excited Ferrari though in an unusual move for Ferrari has dade teams to protest its engine ingredients cereal a beatable can do it rented loss time those if they'd pull out an orchestrated crash insure victory it's all the techs do whatever it takes whatever it takes and elsewhere we're also approaching in fact we will be what's the day today twenty something wins the thirty first that's on Thursdays yeah do you think that's when the rules have the financial costs cab introduced in twenty one is currently planned have the rules delayed if I am rejected this idea because I guess it'll make them look weak but everybody caught up with chat about it I can't believe I'll have to look

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Toyota Confirm Ogier, Evans and Rovanper For 2020

Gravel Notes with David Evans

26:27 min | 10 months ago

Toyota Confirm Ogier, Evans and Rovanper For 2020

"Welcome to Grovel Nick. So David do I have to sign up every time. That welcome to government David Evans think really but people know what they say. They know they know why they're coming here. The know what to expect. I've talked for fifteen seconds now. All all people want to know is about Toyota. Didn't want to know that I'm David Evans. And this things go grab showing me. I probably should. Let's jump straight into the big news the week. which isn't whether I should or shouldn't say welcome? Travel next a starter podcast. I probably will continue to do so. Let's forget that. Let's get onto Toyota so today Wednesday November twenty seventh killer days later than we expected. to-to has revealed its lineup for next year's World Rally Championship. Are there any surprises. Actually no we completely expected Sebestyen Zsa Elvin Evans and Kelly Rav Impera to be announced as soon as citron revealed last week that they were walking away from WNYC and obviously talked a lot about OJ's decision to leave the team. We knew that the French you WANNA go into one place in fact before that you know we kind of saw it coming. Elvin was out in pupil in Finland at Toyota Gazoo. Erasing Tommy McLennan's factory in October last month and from what we can understand he did is deal pretty much there and then he has a two year you deal with turtle two years in Oj. There's no statement from him about whether next year is going to be as finally Eh. It's a one year deal that he signed for twenty twenty or thirty two and mine. The standing is that he will still retire at the end of the end of next year. There's there's no real changes nothing to to point to the fact that he wants longer in the sport the one thing that we do know he wants is the chance to win a seventh driver's championship with a third manufacturer factor. Here obviously when he won four with Volkswagen to them support and the hope was that he would match you Qingchen degree. You are in Kenan. Who won with with Lancia Pirjo Toyota across group? B and Group pay. It's rations of cars in the championship. He wanted to recall call. What what Cancun's done nobody else's ever managed to do that apart from you? So that's a big opportunity for Sebestyen next year there are plenty out there And you know in the fallout since sexually now. I've dug around a lot talked to a lot of engineers talked to a lot of people a lot of drivers. We spoke to lappy. Of course last week has a Pekka lappy does a good few people out there who think that all JAS chances would have been as good at Citron if he'd Stayed The C.. Eighty three has taken a lot of development is moved forward. Clearly we've seen night you know and the real one of the real frustrations for me is that we won't see how good that car will be could have been next year could have won a championship and who knows but what we do have to remember here is that. OJ's joining a new team so that brings things new relationship with engines new working practices. Everything is new for him. You know it's not just the way the car feels where to Congress. It's it's it's it's a whole different way of working perhaps Toyota and all of the experience learned all of the the the study it got to know I'm become very familiar with et cetera. Last year it would have helped him through next year so maybe he gets a performance gain at tertre but does that come at the cost of that that feeling of familiarity within the team who knows either way. Whatever he's putting in a wheelbarrow he will still be capable of winning rallies and possibly the championship? We will oh safe but for sure you know. Australia is going to be excited in his own words. He does say that The fact that it's three new drivers coming to the team is going to make. Things is a little bit more difficult for for more challenging in his words. There's no benchmark for the mets today. You know there's no tax. There's no Christmas there's no Yari Matti Latvala to to say yet on fast right hand. One is a camera or something here. The car tends to do this. They've got to learn over them. Selves Shaw told me maximum will know. He's he's a driver himself. He's driven the car himself. And you hennion is. They're all you know potentially is going to be around potentially area mattie level. It could still be around He's that's what we're hearing at the moment and And certainly accurate Toyota in in his in his words in Toyota's communication Asian the last words to to let velour. Let's keep in touch so does that. Keep a door open for further fan. I duNno we're GONNA come onto twitter to Toyota who is of course the president of Toyota Motor Corporation later on in about five or ten minutes. I say five or ten minutes down every time and then inevitably this thing go on and on with yeah I do WanNa talk to you about Turkey because really quite an interesting story very interesting story with him so where were we the lack of a benchmark in a team. That's difficult that does make it quite tricky to understand them to really hit the ground running with the car and the other thing that we definitely know is that it's difficult in the WAC to learn a new car very quickly. Because you know you have Monte Carlo Sweden Sweden Mexico three massively different events so you know what works in French Alps probably work in the frozen wastes wastes of northern Scandinavia and only went work at high altitude and baking heat in northern America and North America Mexico. So yeah it's going to be difficult old but equally. OJ's one of his two primary title rivals next. Jay Tonic is doing the same time except for obviously he does have have the benchmark there in fact he has three of them with with tearing avail. Sebastian and Dani Sordo. So we'll see but very exciting news as gone. elven elven Evans huge huge huge. Huge opportunity for the Welshman now I feel hugely as as I said about fifteen. Sometimes I feel very excited for Alvin. He's waited for that very unfair to say he's waited for an opportunity because Malcolm Olsen and what have given him plenty of opportunities but you know this this is different this is on a different scale. Lino it at all. I think we're all very well aware that the budgets are very very tight and it's it's not always the most straightforward place to be should. Should we say put it. That's different again. That's absolutely no reflection on the way. Malcolm runs a team way. Richard Mellon the runs a team. It's just the fact that ain't a lot cash around so it's good to see Alvin. Get an opportunity. I must say I do feel a little bit. Sorry for for. They have invested in Elven since he won. WRC Academy in Two Thousand and eleven or twelve eleven twelve two thousand twelve. Of course it was. Somebody has written out on a piece of paper and shoved Infants Mondays. I always get that confused because obviously bring you on in in two thousand and Eleven Elvin in two thousand twelve two thousand twelve Craig Brain One S. WC BACK to back world champion easy to forget that superstar Irishman I'm sport has given Elvin plenty of opportunities lots and lots of opportunities he's taken his first and only. WRC Win Fiesta. In fact he started every every single. WRC round in a Ford Fiesta of some sort so yeah it's going to be difficult for short to say goodbye to him. It's going to be a real culture. She change for for Alvin. You know everything that he's known is based around the hall in Cumbria and now he and Scott and we'll go away and go to a completely completely new team so yeah it's going to be an interesting one but as a a great opportunity and great for elementary backwards. The best you know Jay again you know those. I used to work very well together. Through two thousand seventeen eighteen an og was was one of the primary drivers and bringing Alvin with him I'm from what I can understand. The discussion walls eternity. And who do you want a teammate. And he said Alvin straight away having said that MacKinnon's been absolutely honest east and said that you know he has followed in for lots of years. And that's true because you know I've had numerous conversations with with Tommy about Alvin and his potential and also some cracking talking conversations about the times when when Tommy battled with Gwyndaf Alvin father for group. I think did not beat Tommy in Rally Rally Finland in group in one year. I'm sure he did. I'm sure he did so. Yeah a great chance for for Alvin to to move on and his any one of his primary objectives tissue next year is to win rallies on a on a regular basis and. I think he can do that. The big thing is you know. How quickly can these guys set Atlanta Yeras? It hasn't been the most difficult of cost to drive to learn from what I can understand. You go somewhere like Turkey where you need to Jack. The car up little bit and it is is a bit more difficult but we'll see we'll say the one guy who is unbelievably excited about getting any hours for the second time is nine Hundred Zero Kelly Robin Para who has been confirmed as third driver. Kelly of course drove the car on a test when he was sixteen and Mckinnon told me not long ago that at that test on that same that a road he the sixteen year old Kelly was quicker than Esser pappy and tame you soon and who also testing down the road on the same day so identing anybody can doubt just how capable Ruben Perez is. We've seen some ups and downs this year. But what we've seen in this year is his ability to deal with the Knox and the downside really with incredible maturity and understanding of what's needed on the next round. He had a rotten start here. Then he bounced back with those four wins Back to back wins in. WAC to pro and then took the title and Wells. He Ed Bouchette his own. Admission has a huge amount to learn. He really does you know. This is a massive step up for him but he's ready for it but you know what we need to do next year is we need to be ready with our expectations. I think I've outlined before on this podcast. Rallying is different formula on. We cannot expect in the way that you unexpected. Someone like mattress tap into come in and win races and Challenge Championship really quickly. You can't do that in. WRC It's simply not possible these these rallies we talked earlier Monte Sweden Mexico three events was just so different in nature and aspect in setup and the way you have to approach them from a strategy perspective and a guide as a teenager that has gone and done. Those events wants four four twice in in some cases. It's just not going to be enough you know it's not enough because they are five is vastly different car to a current world. Rally car it is going to take time you know. I don't doubt that we will see some exceptional times. You know Kelly's probably going to be running quarter preferable place on on the road on a Friday so we can expect to see him. Perhaps leading one leading in Mexico on Friday. You just don't know I'd say we'll get further into the year. Potentially Portugal Sardinia Seniors. Someone like that. He could be leading on a Friday. But we'll see some stage wins. That's for sure I'm we all see some some really really exciting performances. I'm sure coming from him. And it's just wonderful to see a young guy like that coming into the into the championship from being given the trust and put unity from sunlight. Tommy macklin. There is part of me that feels. Obviously there is real sadness at CITRON's loss. The fact that we've we've lost one four manufacturers but it's impossible now not to you. Start to feel the excitement building as these. These storylines really start to emerge for for next year. You know we talked about Hyandi Tannock Tanna going to find out who's GonNa win that that battle to win over the hearts and minds of that Hind I team would it be. Tannock will be strong enough to to get one over Terry Neville early doors or will villes relationships within the team. Serve in very well and and perhaps finally you know he can get the better tannock. There's that side of things is Toyota. What is this new team have to offer and can can they bring more championships to back to improve your does that an equally? There's this whole specter of eight drivers now chasing one seat dot. It's almost unprecedented. And it's it's fascinating to see who who is going to end up with with that seat now. I do need to name all eight. Don't I so we have got from Chris Meek Yari Matti Latvala from Citron we've got ESA Pekka lappy three Gus Greensmith. Of course who's WHO's in there fighting man's Osberg Craig Craig Breen and of course Hayden Patent I for me pattern. I've said it a million times now deserves another shot absolutely deserves another go. So yes there his eight of them. I think that's eight pleased. Anybody countless say that's any seven. I'm sure he's eight. Yeah it must be eight so people around clearly weren't paying attention as is nobody's counted and nobody's told me so. Let's trust me. It's eight and yeah you know one of them. Maybe to you know if they could run a third car short There could be two seats available But it's it's tremendously exciting and if you know if we could get lappy Latvala meet somebody like that. Interact any of those boys patent brain then. They all potential rally. One is for sure. There's no doubt about that. And we know that M. Sports got more development coming with the CARDIS. I believe there's some engine work the scenario that some transition so coming already. We know that they fiesta. Is Capable of winning. You know it's there you know Elvin could have one in Wales as things have been a bit differently nearly so nearly one in Corsica. Didn't he the cars right there. So if they can get the right package together get the right person in the car and then you know anything can happen. But as I say there are these amazing storylines emerging and one of the things. I'm literally weird with this sort list of one of the things that I get really excited about four this season. I don't know if you're like me. But it's all about obviously new cars new drivers Blah Blah Blah La. But it's also about seeing blokes in different outfits now is honestly. This is nothing strange. I got me onto this line of thinking was in nine hundred ninety nine when we first saw Colin McRae wearing something other than those five blue and Yellow Subaru overalls before Rothmans overalls and then of course early shall Gemini overalls when he was at Ford but for so long with only seen calling in and blue and yellow of of five and then a Subaru so to seem Martini Ford overall in one thousand nine believable. And it's not just the overall seeing him in and a different wooly hat in a different jacket. We're going to see all of that and we're going to the best but here's the really cool. where the only place to gather and see all of that and all of those drivers Riva's in all of their new kit is at autosport international January the eleventh? If you go to one event in January next year make make sure it's at the NEC Birmingham to come to launch of the World Rally Championship. Sl you'll see them all our new kids and we can we can. Let's talk more about this than I did. Mention something else. There's two other things that I wanNA mention actually three because Roy in front of me now has just landed another mince pie see. We didn't expect the podcast to take that sort of a turn did we. I've got I've been eating mince pies now for a month. In fact clearly anybody who knows me just from my side profile can tell. I've been eating wins for years. What do we think is it too early? I I'm bemused that people might even consider. It's too early. I met calling clog walk the Great Calling Clark for coffee last weekend and I offered him a men's Pie and he was appalled. Shocked sh absolutely the shock to the anybody could be eating midsize November. What's wrong with these people you know? I've been playing band aid since September. Now I promised you some acute Toyota story which is brilliant and was was revealed by Toyota's PR department In accurate or the president you know one of the most important man in the whole world of cars and automotive and everything he talked walked in his quotes about how he first attended rally Finland in two thousand fourteen and the thinking behind getting to getting toward back into the WNYC. I see so he came to rally Finland and really Finland's quarter. It's almost a unique event in that you come into service. Balkan in the middle of the service pop between between kind of rally. HQ and where all rally show is and the actual service. There's a there's a hotel beautiful hotel. which if you if you to go and stay there tonight on a week night in November it would probably cost you sixty or seventy euros? Possibly one hundred years perfectly fine. Very Nice Hotel go go there on Rally Week and it can be as much as six hundred euros. It's ridiculous it's an absolutely rip off is the only thing that's bad about rally. Finland is the ridiculous cost of hotel rooms but this hotel is the center point for every kind of social chats or whatever that goes on because all of the teams and drivers stand there. And if you want to if you want to get an autograph or just see the rally unfolding. You can just go stand in in reception. And that's what exactly acutally did in two thousand fourteen. He went into the to the reception on stood there to greet the drivers as they came in first driver in Eerie Matti Latvala. Now my haven't been able to talk to your matthew at this but my feeling is that Yari Matti didn't know exactly who Akio Toyoda was but being comanche he stopped and chataway to him and Toyota talks about levels enthusiasm and his stories As we can imagine the endless stories about Jerry massie driving us a leaker and a Kerala and all of these kinds of cars and I really should just read you the actual quote because it's almost unprecedented these kind of quotes that we get from from Toyota and from Kyoto it he. He talks with such commotion and Talk to the Drivers in his quotes. So when I visited Finland for the first time in two thousand fourteen toe to had not yet decided to come back to the w Osei I was so excited because it was my first visit and I stood in the hotel lobby to see drivers in-person Yari Matthew. VW drives the first to arrive. When I excited AH excitedly greeted you? You said a friendly. Hello while chatting. You noticed me as someone from Toyota and you happily talk to me about your Kerala and Selita. This was the moment. I made the decision to come back. Imagine that and then he he talks a little bit later about the one being moved by the wonderful fate eight year mattie actually drove for his team from twenty seventeen almost Frankly speaking I didn't expect that the beginning of the season that we could win in our first season the target was to get a podium finish within a year however you brought to to to the pope podium immediately in Monte Carlo and then you bought us at the top of the podium the following month in Sweden it was a dream experience. I was so glad we could finally stand together on the podium last year because obviously towed hadn't attended an event that he had been on the podium. When I look back at our pictures afterwards I notice that I sprayed the champagne bottle given by ought to wards? You're saying the page you at first. I believe it shows how much I got excited for my podium together with you you could say if I didn't see such a friendly. VW driver back then and then maybe Toyota would not been the WRC now. How amazing is that? And how cool is he. I have to say I was very very fortunate at last. CA's rally Finland. The Idar stepped him. He was there with a huge entourage in tow service doorstep on. I think Saturday or Sunday. Good morning really early. I service at a whole six ams or thing And did everything. I could talk a lot to return to be out of is. Is there any chance I could get a word with him not really know very difficult. Then you have to go through the Japanese bureaucracy as well and eventually I was given given some time with him. The two of US sat down and we were immediately surrounded by a number of people who are very keen to to hear what he was saying. Just kind of make sure that we kept the thing on track and they wanted just to know what I would ask him beforehand and I have to say. What an amazingly lovely bloke who is just the biggest rally fan and immediately one one or two or three minutes became ten minutes fifteen minutes? I'm we chatted for ages. And he you know it was a real insight for me to to meet a guy that is right at the top you know arguably you believe the biggest and most important man in the biggest car company in the whole wide world and we were chatting about you know whatever in all sorts of stuff from from Ronnie fantastic that we have such a strong advocate for sport at such a an elevated position in the auto world so that Os ended a bit serious. It didn't what was the other thing I wanted to talk to you about our ACO rally. That's the final thing crikey. We're nearly at twenty five minutes. I promise this is the last bit you know those things things where you you kind of go through the thinking. Yeah I must get onto that. I must get out salted and time passes you by and suddenly it's here clearly. Christmas isn't isn't like that in this in my will because I've been celebrating Christmas in September but wanting which did creep up on me and I'm so stupid for allowing to creep up on. Oh Me is the Roger Albert Clark Rally which was last weekend for those who don't know what this is. It's a historic event. But obviously that's now open to o'cuiv acres Roger Albert Clark. It was one of the greatest British row rally drivers in history. Two time winner of the of the rally so he's play on the the acronym isn't a rally Roger Abbott really but it's an event that is run very much in the same vein as the as the original RAC RAC- rallies. It started on Thursday evening in Leominster Hertfordshire when tend to Radner for two stages which are both would have been in the dark back to lobster and restarted for day through wells on Friday Friday night after it finished in halfway down in in south Wales on happened finish their at Har Three four o'clock on Friday and jump straight on. Am Six and drove all the way up to carlisle just exactly as it would have been on the old our AC started in incur. Show first thing the next morning. Nine o'clock when through kill the all day Saturday back to collar on Saturday night Sunday into borders and we're talking proper stages a twig lease casler creek great great stages stages. I actually competed competed on. You'll be astonished to hear the Daihatsu Challenge in one thousand nine hundred nine something like that and that's another podcast. For Another Day Sunday all the way through the through the borders and back down to Carlisle on Sunday night and back into kill the on Monday day for stays like four stern abuse off and I mean great grey stages and by the end of the event they had done practically the three hundred competitive miles and the winner was a multi McCormack. Who won by his total accumulated? The time was an astonishing five hours. That's a genuinely great genuinely great event and one that I absolutely will not miss ever again. I've been meaning to go on it. It's clashed a few times stuff. I think is a biennial event but enormous. Congratulations to to the organizers of that of that event and count me in for twenty twenty one or whenever it runs next. Because I'm all in for a Thursday Thursday late afternoon star all the way through to A alternative finish. Let me go back to Ternary. Finish was a half past four on Monday afternoon. I mean how cool is that. And you're on the road on them. Six you up and down the place and fabulous yet. I'm all of that. And also congratulations across the multi McCormack for winning nothing. It took him more than five hours to do. But it the guy that I also want to talk about and I promise this is the end Wayne citizen who was fourth in Mitsubishi Galant VR. Fall a AH one of the cars that you kind of forget for an aggressive air or that you and then you watch our. That was such a cool guy and it was running that citizen livery the blue and the red just exactly as it should be but that result is even more timely because it comes thirty years crikey thirty is after curricular won the rally in in the same Kinda group a Glenn Awful so fabulous good result for for Wayne System great result from Ati McCormick exceptional result for the organizers rotor clock Riley and very very exciting times coming clearly from Toyota for next year And there we. Are we all done now. It's time for me to go into the midst pie so catchy next week bye bye.

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Episode 477  The Great Victorian Lockdown commences

Shutters Inc

29:26 min | 2 months ago

Episode 477 The Great Victorian Lockdown commences

"Bruce Williams. Hi and welcome to episode four, hundred, Seventy, seven of shadows, zinc, the episode, where we day you to hold your breath for the entire length of the episode. It shouldn't be too difficult to manage. This is Bruce Williams from shadows, zinc, podcast, dot, com, and on the other end of Scott. The housebound Mr Glenn lavender from creative fellow workshops come. Oh. ow Or, hers you all. We. Be. I talk sloughing off the episode girl Manga. Downing with it. At the ten minute mark. Your Best Dory impersonation. Roaring. Has. You're waiting. Yes, I'm I'm in lockdown again. It's as of midnight last night, right? Into lockdown for the next six weeks Jeez and As a starting point. Six is a starting point. We'll. Take it from there and seems that we now have more cases per day than at any time during Macho. Apple Mij- June. Wow, it's and get ready because it's going to. You guys too Yep, and make all strive always USTRALIAN sites hope. Victorio. Begun yet, you guys. Yes this. Is. The resurgence yeah. Is thing full of people listening he's talking to. Kim? Communist. The other news advised up in Canada. Similar! We're going into lockdown. As of yet at that stage was tomorrow night midnight. Again, that's a D A six weeks. Because what how bad is it? They said well. The country just had one hundred and seek death Y-. Chick. Just. His town city loaned head over thousands of the country and it course. Canada's headed very light compared to its southern neighbours. So that. We got this extreme and we've had. This week. Four hundred cases guessing in Victoria. We'd one death. Compared to sixty plus thousand in Canada's southern border region. Between Canada and Mexico. They haven't sixty thousand a day. Yeah! We're we're in five hundred a week. In the entire, the entire state is well the entire metropolitan area. The state is locked adver Switzer, Rachel areas aren't, but that's really just a matter of time. And then full before anybody says Oh. Yes, but America's got a much greater population. I've only got times as many people as we do. And Extract license number is much less than one tenth of the. I'd say it's Milwaukee at one fifteen population, but still. I'm a member of the PEDANTIC society. On the founding member of the I. Strains against acronyms. Excellent. As to clubs bean. So but yeah, so we have. We have very very very little. Very low amount cases, but once again. It's you don't overwhelm hospitals. and. The medical system and I guess the thing to here's another difference to some other places in the world. If you want to get tested, you can yeah. You, can my local hardware store up the street? which is a big how big green one that you wanted to start talking about the front dame as a massive tent with to Lonzo Qasr go through, and if you want for your own. And use that to very loosely. Just go get tested. You can just walk out and get a free test and you dumb, and you'll find the DIA saw and they're they. All. Six of those stations within a ten minute drive of my place year right, but of course you drop fifteen minutes. Plus, they scanning scanning you lawson's flights. And checking shaking what suburbs you from and lock on? Also said. And they the closed the border to New South, Wales course up to your e Yeah, and the views, the most dritan of used the most draconian of measures. To Stop It. They put. They'd line the border roads in the border with cans of International. Roast coffee. Victorians they love good coffee. Then they run away the purchase order. See on Rosen turn. Reckon Ron is that what you say is like An. Interesting it's. Interesting that you should mention that because I have a former work, colleague who I? Used to work and in back when I did. But she now lives in Aubrey with Donga. is on the Victorian side of the border, but she works the New South Wales so yeah. Swim across the river. Body Mexicans crossing the river again. That'd be racist. I countries the case. For those who don't know that that's the ambassador Ruben. Semantic Toria. Two Camps Audrey Him Donga. That kind of. One big town yet, but the coaching medium-sized. Riverside. Byles Tam. One's a Victorian town and there's going to be a lot of people up in that same. No quiet a big TAFFETA. Chico! Chico's of the Victorian Sodden weymouth. But this is a bridge courses back and forth to work and live and yeah. That's not going to be happening so. It's. Different, a little bit different this time brand new me out panic buying. Stop sitting in the stopped. Winning a little bit, and then they realize they being stupid I think most. Move worrying about toilet paper disappearing again. We're GONNA be. To? People seemed a little bit more. Up Obviously Before. It even starts, but even bit more relaxed about S-. Made from my experiences, they believe. The more accepting of it and understand what's happening at the same time. There was a wild thing Danny. What is tonight and hundreds flock to the IT's? Writers like Morons. Long MS longer. Want this thing to go on for yeah. And the? And then there's been lots of course people ignorant people on facebook blaming all sorts of things for people's. The outbreak and majority of them blaming the black lives metro tastes. I you. You were in lockdown. You guys decided to watch and protest Navajo lockdown well. There's been no cases from that at all whatsoever. That a certain religious group. Ended there they appeared of the festivities and traditionally, if you're all gets together and as families and celebrates, and that spread pretty rapidly. And so a lot of the cases I mean like one hundred twelve cases from one school alone. Jude I can imagine. This is the kids, so you think the family member don't do so of those five hundred cases. There's a lot of them there were. Centric to one zone, and that's that has caused some grief and yet. Nothing to do with religion nothing to do with the people. The people gathering. It's just stupid. People people don't realize they're doing the wrong thing and it creates a problem. This! If the outbreak was from everyone, Dad, look at a while from a PA. Would people be. Having to kill it. So. It's a of banks around the price and the typical wom. Let them tell me what I can count. You Idiots. And now unfortunately now all I can I can see every time. I was here with that conference statement. Is this woman talking naturally? We mentioned this last week. Woman talking at a town hall meeting in the US about not wearing masks as she walks, she screamed into the microphone. Moscow screamed into the microphone. I don't wear a mask. Don't underwear. Things I've got a brave. Walks off. Now. And sounds so says I'm looking to do with that autopsies. This woman saying I. Don't wear underway I'm. Like Oh. My God. This is funny stuffing every in every situation. So so the kids have be given an extended. The kids have been giving them an extended school holiday. Whilst everyone tries to figure out what to do. and. For the older kids the US team that twelve the end of high school ban. They will going back. All all kids will be will be tip protested at the door. Santoni Antonio, temperature. But the kids the kids from kindergarten all the way through the year nine. They still don't know what they're gonNA do with them. On that after another week and more than likely more than lobbyists. Schooling Bruce. Schooling yeah. That's. and. Proves have, resilient. Soon as they found out is like. Nothing they reaction Oh. There's there's the old. Miss my friends and all this stuff that. Yeah, it's GonNa. Be No fun so six more weeks of. Indoor? Cancel my workshops. Canceled one. Week ago 'cause my wife was sick. Right and my kids are the sniffle and saw did not want to run it just in case and she'd go tested and gotten. Results are canceled that one then. I canceled this this one this coming up so in two days time world cancel I postponed for a couple of weeks, and then it's like. Yup postponed because she goes back and. Style were starting to go a bit cases popping up everywhere, so I thought this through the right thing. Yeah, and now let's it. A. COUPLE OF MONTHS NO BUSINESS SH. Be, the enemy. Got The energy to farted. I'm like yeah. We'll see how we. Might Cannon in in Canada and he's just moved back up from the US during this whole thing, go see just. His businesses based Iran travel yet goes now traveling so high business, no money and So he moved back home with his mom which. middle-aged man! and. He signed. You know who knows when you'll be able to run this business again this. Might not be for another year, and then maybe people listen Americans in the majority of customers yeah yeah. There's always things. You don't take into account young. Yeah, so. It's trying times. Resolve it and you. You knew whilst people you've been doing fine and happy and Andy and mural for the moment gown to go to work every day. I'm well. Yeah, I am. I'm at work every day. I still work on one side of two sheets of glass and the person I work with is on the other side of those two sheets of glass. Yeah, we sort of maintain social distancing when we're at studio. Yep We just doing what we can plugging away and yeah, it's all you can do, but I'm very much like you I honestly do believe that. It won't just be Victoria this resurgence. It will eventually creep into new. South Wales and probably across into South Australia and. We'll have half the problem of courses. It school holidays here. Yeah, so low school holiday. Kids have gone into state like I. Know I know. I have to rush into state to get my my kid back for the grandparents House Yep. So, that's one. She's gotta go. She rush up there before clock, but also saw that one of the coastal new coastal towns had its first case reported today Victorian keyed on, holidays. Right, you can imagine and then most people dispersing of course back to where they belong and. That's the thing but viruses they spread. That's what they bred to do. Yeah I've just had no idea. Audio Engineer Andrea. I believe so. And do you buy audiobooks aren't. That I do. What's the average? What's the average length of time for an audiobook? Humane the playing talk. Run Time. Look, I, something that is like your average length piece of fiction, which usually runs to around three hundred to three hundred fifty pages. In a pdf form. That will normally translate to somewhere around seven to eight hours. Avoidable was good. Y, what about what about like? The about sort of thirty minutes long. That would be a podcast, not an audio book. Really. Why because I was thinking you? Up to. Four seventy seven. I was thinking. Go back through all the episodes. Karen all the good bits. Put it together an. audiobook. Tips off the talk of the audiobook. Every could sell it and makes some cash right. So I four hundred seventy four episodes thirty long audio book we should be almost if we have a long intro and a half show Bob Guy. Marshall Flesh it out. Look what we're doing tonight for God's sake already about ten minutes and we haven't said anything. We thought the whole thing wouldn't come within ten minutes. Sub sure, but we could we could. We could flush it out to a full half air audio, but we could probably sell it for twenty bucks yeah. Trump. I copy. And you stop people. Just sharing audiobooks also download the file just to all the difference will. It depends if you're doing it through audible they. encode it into a proprietary format, so it will only play out of the Playa Playa. So you just play it out of some of the media plan and you can. You can't just transfer the files to somebody else's device, and for them to loaded into the audible APP. Because the audible APP will recognize hasn't been bought on their account. So they. Held back a microphone to the speaker. And record that would still pick up it's. Would still pick up that coating. No, no, that's. Getting around Seville is to record the radio to the top in terms of the league. Absolutely could bring that back. Up in experimented with some video. Software not. Exactly studios soft way. It'd be a studio. That's what I use for my screen capture stuff from doctoral videos. That's what I've been looking at. It's brilliant Bruce. Yeah so so it made. The kids were disarray. Reaction Videos right. Reacting to what? To this is the thing who knows maybe outstanding yourself on the screen I'm not sure. So. Now. Is going to play a song from my past. And what's their reactions and they can write it as they go along with the. Schools they're gonNA apply one of their songs for me and to not bash hit to the wall. Reaction! Or Gal? Is that with the campuses the? So Shit, sharing each other's musical journey, and trying to educate them along the way right because you're gonNA lose these damn, copyright issues yeah. When you play somebody else's even that you promoting that band and you're promoting that song or whatever May. It's pretty tough, so maybe I might do some comedy skits as well. You'll get them to react to huma. And just see how quickly today actually out or. Possibly not. So be exploring the software today just to see how that works. Yep, that's that's pretty cool. Stuff is no, it's great. It has two different modes. You've got the the standalone way of recording something in advance. which will then create a video file of whatever it is? You've recorded presumably you. You'll screen, but you can also use it as I live video switch up. By creating what I called scenes, and then you know, you can do live streams. Through things like twitch or Youtube live and you can use these. Scenes that you've created in advance to do. Live switching of the video signal say you can. Bring up lower thirds old. Put things in little boxes and break the screen up into different elements and all that sort of stuff. Stephan do it live on the fly. Yeah, it's pretty. It's pretty clever. It's very clever and the great thing about it is. That runs on all three of the major. Well, there's that and also runs on all three of the platforms. Windows Mac and Penguin and the and the penguins the lyrics let's penguin that's Lennox. Really he's ninety nine. Is that his name now? He's name is Tux. From. You One. That's he's wasn't. He called Annex. Why hasn't he called Luke's? Would that make sense? I mean apple has an apples in symbol. Windows has windows symbol. This should be called Penguin. When he saw the box to you pay off the edge. THAT THE PENGUINS! Name is tax. Maybe Maybe Ping maybe penguin was taken mate. PENGUIN UP PENGUIN DOT COM. Will, come, up. So that's pretty cool was looking at doing some sort of broadcasting also experiment stockings. It's free of charge. Or if you want to do any tutorial type stuff way, you capture your screen. Maybe you just want to show people the way you post processing whatever you use for post processing. You can use IBS studio as a capture device to catch. Either your entire screen, or just an application window, and save it as a video file and course then you can, we can have my full screen of the light room, and then your little box with your face. Well, Let. Videos look, yeah? And he can move that little boxer. Answer, not the way of stuff. That's right. Clemency we're learning something here. That from podcast. Nothing do anything, but anyone's interested in, but that's. Regardless as Off. CanNot believe Miriam Webster is now. Recognizing that word. Did you see their example? They used on the thing they have. No, he's. That rise came over indeed. And that's legitimate word now they they recognize dies as the plural of they think will us. They is plural. Like shapes. I look at all the pretty shapes now. Never made the kids be discussing funding enough that exact fact this week, sheep versus sheep. And I decided that single sheep and s shape. Ship over there that she was a baby there. And then multiple seep, multiple ships became shape excellent she made. It says it's just far more logical pharmacological logical, so we'll. We'll get catch Miriam and if she'll change it. Also. She's a lovely lady. But she might be. Although, because it's just coming out with days, irregardless woods. To hang up the vote. That's just shocking. I understand that the English language. Is a language that's always in flux, but. Seriously that is just a line. Not inflex LINEX. It's what. LINEX influx seeking. To the last thing we were talking. You said the English language is always inflexibly mid line extinct, you know. It's constantly moving. Was it. Doesn't matter a move on. Regardless. Move! On their regardless there we go. I guess we should talk about the stuff that came to talk about. Yeah, should we? Should we should we should. Three things only. And one relates to last week's podcast. Right. About the cannon mortgaging their satellite. I had candidates Hannah Five. Thirty three up. And Blow Up. You automate of your three things. That was this. Yes, and now we're down to four each is. Again. With your with your spin on it. So I watched I watched the launch. And it's going up. It's going. It's not five six minutes up into its audiences spice. It's got extra burner gone, and the guy is talking alive, and this is what's going to happen next and transferring to batteries. As it's talking I'm watching. The velocities gone up for the tubes tail. Six, hundred, sixty, nine, hundred and sixty nine point nine nine point eight points. and. He's and he's talking to why. This is GonNa Happen? This is what's going to happen. And still keeps dropping dropping, and then he goes, he goes. All seem to have lost signal at the moment. Video see black. Control these people to sit in the control to interstate at the screens doughnuts them for a minute. Okay, well today from. Video, signal, we'll talk to you later on. That you've watched a single at that, you've lost the whole thing. because. That's the first time I've ever seen that. Just sitting there watching watching the altitude just plummets yeah. I'm thinking. I'm thinking that's my type. The Eighty Challenger disaster. Member we were that. The hopeless account remembered at all. That is true, I said to him. Do you remember where you were that day? They tab were born. Then excuse. That proves this young reincarnation. Thing obviously doesn't work. She wouldn't think that that's it. Yeah. It wasn't quite site disastrous up six people on board. But and it was interesting this. There was an anomaly guess it went. Dan said about this is. Normally fairly significant normally. So. That was a few other satellites on board as well I think the kid blown up these by rockets. How many five MAC threes cannon headline random ran out, they could. have to redesign, the whole thing falls, so that might improve the resale value. The mockeries because there's less of them. So go up in value as As distressed destroyed by rockets. Because crazy stuff, because that's my take on that story now you. You say the story again title. Unlike to break into the podcast briefly to mention that we now have a patriotic count, if get any value at all from out photographic gigglefish h wait, we'd really appreciate it. If you can spare a couple of bucks a month just to help, keep the service running. Link Kobe in the shy. Much appreciated now back to podcast. We'll my take is. Remember. We were talking last week about Canon. Send a five day three into space attached to a satellite. We didn't know why it wasn't a four. Yeah well, it turns out. They launch the rocket and the rocket crashed. Crashed and they lost everything that was on board. An old demolished. Where did it land? Don't people somewhere on the ground wasn't sure didn't hit water. Because water takes ninety percent of the year at them to land on land is going to be pretty likely I have no idea because I don't know where your story dude. You're going to bring up. A story. Plays have some more information. Hata released. On gone is. Headlines. A. Link that's. Joy? So? I wonder what the what the what it was playing for. What was the projects? They were putting up there in the first, and realistically. What the Hell's Canaan doing getting into spice, telescopes and cameras texter. The motivation was the reasoning behind spending all that money. Good question. I thought it was. And that when the struggling apparently, there's GonNa be some the Knicks announcements going to be huge. Says going to release a whole stack of product. Look a whole stack of one of the biggest answers then in ears so i. Figured I thought about that. I have looked into any articles about it, but I thought if you want to make a bang these days, not literally they rocket blowing up. Bank just releasing camera is bit. Signed. Or, even just camera a couple lanes. been get an entirely new system. You would think. Something multiple cameras multiple lenses melting. You really look almost like rebranding the company sort of thing you know what I mean. So be interesting to see what they were think come in July sometimes. We? We've just missed a massive opportunity to have a dig at the kate ways. For one because they launched the rocket. Was One of the is New Zealand's. From the North Island of New Zealand. Dog. So yes, they go. I'm reading the the press release that Canon. Put on June sixteen. Yes so it was launching from the southern tip of the. High Peninsula on the east coast of New Zealand's North Island. Goes Mahathir expecting. Rough. Cease at one is a sixty seven kilogram micro satellite which can resolve ninety centimeter objects on the ground from spice to know what's called now. Wow, to know what it's called now note. See flat one bleak. Let's talk about having a Pancake Lens. They really. The. That's that's pretty impressive. Though like from spice to resolve an object, that's ninety centimetres across like ground level. That's pretty impressive. It is under Y Y they'll be doing. Well, maybe especially. When does the Saudi satellites up? The got better than that resolution already and all of that same thing groundbreaking as far as resolutions. It's quite possible that places like doppler in the US military might have higher risk stuff up there already, but maybe this was going to be something. That was a test bed full, potential future commercial applications. That would be available you know like. A memorial reds version of Google maps for example. would be allowed wouldn't be the government allowed. Same reason the same reason why. Google Earth cannot resolve to set the what they using. The list can resolve the hell a lot better, but it's restricted. Because of the things they may photograph not supposed to. Me that can result can resolve the colossus flights from space right, but yeah, it's the same thing with GPS, so gps could resolve close to. that it does yet, but it's. It's restricted by US government and also the people. Who allow because of. Locations and so on. So then there's no conspiracy theory that's actually known factors does limit the restrictions on whether or not. This curious I. Don't know what they would have been after the speaking of spice. This was I think about it. There's a comet. That's a pedes called neo wise any wise. which in the northern hemisphere right now just before sunrise is a big visible comet in the sky. And toward a little bit later in the month of be visible. To south of a strike is striving run, but it'll be dimming by that stage so the how much of Hemmer's brightness. It'd be naked eye object, but. If, you remember. Comet Hale Bopp from nine fifteen years ago. Yeah, it's like that as good as that. Okay, so it's a big visible, naked eye comet with tile and pretty cool to see. That so speaking of spice, the International Space Station. Astronauts took a photo of it. From space over the curvature of the earth. Are Nice, so see can see see the curve of the Earth and this comet in the distance gone past is pretty. It's pretty darn cool. Cool. I didn't even bother getting the link to it all. Just. So if you want if you want to find their image, Neo Wise International Space Station. There it is and. But I've never seen it the. Commission that single comet from space over the top of the earth, and now it's like the. Aurora from space is such a completely different viewpoints. Might my only thing is a chemical. Pixie has been It's been a little while, but it's finally bring a open for bookings. Place Awards for. preorder for, but this is one sixty six, but this is probably the sixty s looking camera I've ever seen in my life for me. I think it is the bomb. The only problem is has no memory card. And it has no The screen which I like. Doesn't have a memory card slot yet. nine-member cats lot. So! Let's go four GIG internal. And everything else else's Wi fi. Or whatever, but this is one. A range finder like M. Series Matt Camera. That I'll tell you I'll love just just. Pita, me of style camera. It does look good. In camera is gorgeous. Elsie the panel, top of the cameras beautifully designed that it's. Gorgeous. It is a beautiful looking camera, but a steady three hundred US dolls ouch. and. The people who are mad about they mega pixels. You'll be horribly disappointed by its. resolution. But yeah, but that's some seriously beautiful design look. was done the design and then I think that's a gorgeous camera. Yeah, it's kind of what. You look at all these all all style cameras on. The whole thing with the Olympus and the Canon. Fuji's Jesus that, but they kind of. Well they really did was might modern cameras look all cameras, which is obviously what the rich, but didn't take older stalling and the new stuff and Milton met with something new something something stylistically different Yup, and that's what I love about dead. Is that blend of old and new technologies and down cool? No, Pixie. People WanNa send me one and of lenses to because they may. All be happy very test for you. Speaking of Rotisserie, are you any closer on your on your thought process for? Way You GonNa go nothing further as yet other van. We've pretty much ruled out any chance of getting down to as rock. You probably rolled any chance of Victoria to imagine. Given. So with thinking differently sorta staying up around the top end of the Northern Territory, definitely do litchfield national park probably over to. I can't think of the name of the other. National Park but one that's over to the east of the road that runs down to Katherine, but yeah, so probably you know just doing all of the top end of the northern territory. State Yeah I'm looking for lots lots of lovely federal opportunities, totally and what Lindsey going to be using well hopefully. The temer on twenty eight to two hundred. That'd be pretty cool, it would. Some pretty cool shots with that, and that should be no problem that should be no problem I've. That from the head guy himself, so should know drama getting one. Yes, so on, and this is not unprecedented surge. Yeah, so very much looking forward to give him that lens of a good work camp on the holiday and. I reckon based on the specs of having read up about it. It just seems like the perfect traveling's. Really does. More. Would leave the we eagerly await your review. Yes, absolutely. All righty so. Talking about why is about? Profiles. Oh Yes. Ex Yeah. This is I. Don't know if you call it a protocol, or if you call it a product in its own right, but basically this will allow you to sink your profile photo studio lighting. To Your smartphone. So you can use your smartphone for genuine off camera flesh studio photography. Now everything I've seen so far mentions. iphone, so I don't know whether there's android support, but even if there isn't, it's a interesting new. Avenue Four. Manufacturers to go down the idea of being able to do this sort of stuff with your phone. And they're saying synchronization up to a twenty five thousandth of a second. That's impressive. The the thing is. And they're trying to say all we're awesome. I'll just a nuclear google. Elegant plans flash triggering IPHONE APP seventeen September twenty tain. This about how I use trick, clash Wallace trigger and Ellen crump from my phone. So. This all seems to be. Maybe a few people there come out with systems. Allow it to. To trigger already. But this. This! Data is an there's a couple of updates at the bottom end of the post, and the last one says update. Pro Photo has confirmed to diy photography that an android version is in the works that cannot promise a release Nora list of supported devices, but say they are working very hard to get an android APP ready and supporting as many high end android smartphones as possible. So. Even if you know doesn't roll out in an android version straightaway I still think it's an exciting area. Of Development. Of. The! I would love to shop both most small speed. Lots of not build trigger a flash. We. Mentioned being able to go out on the shoot and the heaviest thing you had to take. Your lighting. Yeah, not having a usually is diverse. Kinda together for a proper shoot with long liden usually is the lighting suits. US lodging stains, you two or three heads, you soft boxing. But not also have the carried all the all you can bring. Out! I have play with it'd be. It'd be very cool. I might A. See if I can. Enter the profiler. People's in me one minutes often running and give it a taste. Yeah, well. I mean someone like you who? Really enjoys. Taking photos with smartphone. It's just the natural progression that you would get excited by something like this. I am but thankfully video. PODCAST. And the. Whole thing on your. I I'm just going to read the opening sentence because I thought this was beautiful. This is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read in my life, but this is this. Is this the article opening or is this you? This is me reading the blog. because. You. Probably read, but getty images is apparently going to be the quote dedicated in Game Sports Photographers and quote for the Foia Certified Grant championships. Yes, that's right. Video game screen shots are now photography according to Getty. Now now it's not a silly as it sails. Why isn't it well? What's not happening around the world at the moment? People aren't doing split the that the sports, but motor racing drivers are doing an electron exports. They're going online and do races nascar racing, so there is a professional online sports. Get sports systems as in professional real races. Now if you can take that as in the real world of the people racing. The by can't take photographs of the fake world. Racing because people still wonder reports, people sort of report on what happened in the rice today, not true. Do. They not want to sit there and hit pause and screen sharp everything. If you'RE GONNA get get your images like you're always have done this report. It actually make sense. To you now about to me well, he's about fifteen years ago. I was at a future. Future. futurist convention I remember you telling us the story yet. So, so fifteen years ago I said for sick and life, which is the. On Line. Three. which which has an economy big an island? Not An Ireland Ireland I. R. E. LA in the so the economy in second life is bigger than an entire real world country. Wow! And this this future said. was asking where the people see photography going now. What's the what's? Not One person's futures conference had no idea. This guy was an analyst from Mit. Also I came up with well. My vision is that. This is a camera stores. Said you I put. He faked camera store in second life, and you sell cameras to these characters. Walk around and I take photos with of them and their friends, the places they go and see, and then they can print them out for cost in the real world and people make money, so don't you sell the cameras? The the films stuff that they're all all the normal stuff that different lenses flashguns, and that will have online fakes that can be printed out in the real world and he was like. This the future, it may not couldn't see it also still there. I believe that still believe it now. So what are see something like that Gideon? Photographic makes perfect sense to me because that's a logical progression. If everything was now done online if we could, if this pandemic goes far wasn't everyone in the world was locked down. Weddings funerals, everything would be done on. We watched only online. All these people who also doing. Online boudoir sessions zoom family portrait zoom. Signed thing really, isn't it? Exiting photographing real people rather than. An COP that's being driven by real people, and so you can think about. The soccer games the football. All these F. B. Played. I mean people who are saw strike enrolls. People playing on the ground for one team, and and actually planning guy well. Why would you be photographing the highlights? Yeah, the stuff that's happening and you do signed by. You'd be a photographer and the saw. Big Lanes. If you're going to be checking one small pilot, the action and what you're capturing is what what no one else is capturing. This gets get to are ahead of the. Curve and in. Twenty years time maybe. It maybe just completely taken for granted accepted thing, and you'll see in the newspapers, peaches I mean pitchers of electronic events that happened on the weekend in the sports section. Because that's a lot of stuff going to happen. There's already so many things that have happened on mine the mid the game industry is fricking huge. Bob Hawke is bigger than Hollywood and Bollywood combined. Yeah, so you think not what people are going to be out there trying to monetize. But it'd be possible why that photography got to be one of. My words. On, and there's a computer whiz who could visualize this stuff, and we'll work on stuff together and also on this stuff. I know. It seems ludicrous. Bouts, Let's say the was a really amazing stack on that car rice, which is once again rising for real poets and real money with real sponsors and real drivers, real professional drivers driving it as a pretty spectacular crash I ain't gonNA. Sit there and watch through the two thousand video. Freeze that moment or and then capture that and they brought the article a battle newspaper. Or you don't spend a dollar. Deal of Giddy. Done for you. It's it's it's I agree it sounds ludicrous bats. Often, the future stuff does seem we'd. There's like Oh shit because they haven't exact. Certainly will not argue with you over the size of the. Industry in financial terms, it is absolutely huge. I think it's hundreds of billions of dollars per year. Between you know what spent on our day, and then we'll take in sales of games and. 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Look at the various iterations of that game over the last twelve to fourteen years and seeing how far the. Everything like the the shading and the holy rendering and everything about it is just mind blindness to the point now where you look at it and got this could almost be video. It is that. A Just take. Four steps further. Yeah, and that's what this new engine does. It is it is the blows away all this talk about how amazing it is. Blows away, yeah! I mean. Why as like Oh my God, it's such an exponential jump, and this is the first iteration for a brand. New Game System doesn't even out yet, so in a two three years Tom was. Probably, got us what they're going to be coming out with. This site so? Maybe getting in getting in as a loss leader early nine in the future they'll be the people go to because. They were there I in is. Go. We flush that little buddy to second crappy article at quite a bit. Too Bad for him. A podcast and we stretched ten minute podcast adding to fifty. 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