35 Burst results for "Cold"
Is the FBI Ashamed of the FBI?
"Good. So in light of your positive experience with many agents, and I know this is somewhat speculative, but I'd like you to speculate what percentage of those working in the FBI. Are ashamed of the FBI. I don't think I can give you an even an approximate percentage for that because it doesn't matter. As you have said so, so many times and I actually used it on my show last week with fuller accreditation. There are three types of people. There are the fighters. There are those the assist, the fighters, and that there are those that do nothing. Now what your reason for doing nothing is is irrelevant functionally. So as an expert on communism and the Cold War who traveled behind the iron curtain, Dennis, you know, that it's not the question isn't how many people are truly communists. The question is, how many people were prepared to resist or how many were prepared to create the permissive environment? That's a superb superb answer.
The Lie of the Left
"So faculty at the UCLA school of law, just like their Islamist counterparts, which is by the way why the left defends radical Islam. If you attack it, you are cold and islamophobe. Note, by the way, that there is no such thing as a Christian phobe, note that. The greatest hatred in the west is in the Islamic world. Along with the Jews is Christians, Christians, they are the brunt of the mass murder. Or the massive number of murders taking place on religious grounds. The reason the left defends the Islamists against tax verbal attacks resulting even. Is that they are Kindred spirits.
A Look at the Suspects in the Christa Helm Murder
"Let's look at the suspects for the police. Sandy Smith, Chris agent, and the person whose house she was murdered in front of. Definitely in the Hollywood party scene, potentially had mob ties and definitely was a shady character. The next suspects a guy named Rudy mosel. A drug dealer who was roommates with Blair aronson, the keyboardist who worked on Christa's disco album. And so I was to say that crystal was storing large amounts of Coke from azela and during that time she stole some drugs from him and he found out and got a bit violent toward her. Another crazy thing Rudy sprag that he was the one who committed the murder. Now we all know that there are false confessions that happen. They happen pretty regularly in murder cases, but this is one that I would take a little seriously. He wasn't looked at deeply at the time of Christ as murder, but when the case was opened back up in the mid 2000s, cold cased investigators found that Rudy had been dead for years so there's nothing they could do with that. I think he's the general favorite of whoever killed Chris to helm. But with investigators unable to interview him, there was no direct evidence linking him to the death. So the case is still unsolved to this day. What I would do is I'd like to know what sandy Smith saw. And why did he lie to the police? What's also interesting about this case is investigative found tapes among her possessions and audio recordings of her sexual encounters. I love to hear those tapes. Another fascinating possible suspect is Tony sirico. Pauly walnuts himself. The roommate Stephanie said that he showed up at their apartment right after the party to check on Chris as well fair, but that ended up not happening. And what ended up happening was he went to their apartment to steal fur coats and personal items of Kristin's. So Stephanie have always believed that it was Tony who initially stole Christa's tape recordings from her room after the murder. Why he did that? I don't know.
Fighting continues in eastern Ukraine
"Fighting continues in eastern Ukraine where the war has entered its 170th day In particular the Donbass down of Kramer tosk has been hit by 11 rockets overnight 7 people were killed and over a dozen others wounded in the region which remains cut off from gas running water and electricity Regional governor has told Ukrainian television three quarters of the population of the region have already been evacuated because incessant shelling he says by the Russian army doesn't leave civilians any choice is either to die from wounds or from hunger and cold in winter I'm Charles De Ledesma
A Series of Strange Situations Surround Christa Helm's Death
"Investigators had very little to go on at the scene, but they matched the keys to the car and the apartment that you shared with Stephanie. Stephanie Warsaw. When police went to the apartment step, they told him that a roommate Krista had the car last night. And this is where the story gets even weirder. Kristen's roommate Stephanie told investigators that sandy Smith was Chris's agent and was a mutual friend of both, and she said that Chris had called Sammy from the party earlier that he didn't try to get him to join the party. When asked about that night sandy Smith told investigators that she was sound asleep and never heard a thing. I mean, he was a he claimed that he had no idea that Chris had been stepping a mere feet Amir several feet from his house. That's weird to me. But according to witnesses, that statement is false because there were other people coming and going from sandy's house all evening and the person who found Chris body was on his way to sandy south. So that's the line. That's a first line. Why was sandy trying to hide this from the police? We don't know. In the recording from recessions at the disco studio, working on our album. Investigators found that they were littered with personal drama and tension. On those on those audios. Apparently your backup singer patty Collins was having a secret relationship with Krista, but Christa denied being a lesbian and that upset Collins, when they heard the recordings investigators went on the hunt for patty Collins, but she was never found. To this day, we don't know where she went. We don't want she left. Another weird thing. Christa was said to have been carrying a handbag that contained a diary. But again, like I said, the purse, the diary, never been accounted for. So after a few months, this case went cold. The police had too many leads, too many loose ends, too much on their hands. They passed things off and moved on to the next until there was nothing left to do.
Don't Miss What John Zmirak Has to Say About the FBI Raid
"John, you and I need to process what we couldn't process yesterday. Something unprecedented, something that I still am having a hard time making sense of, at least on some levels. But what happened the other night, why don't I let you tell the story? It is one of the most bizarre things certainly in my lifetime. I don't know what to make of it. I was on the phone with our good friend Jason Jones, wonderful human rights activist pro life back to this. And he told me the FBI has just rated Donald Trump's house in Mar-a-Lago. And I tell you, and I have a column about this coming out today. I had a feel. I had this experience. I had the feeling I had when I heard that news. Was the same feeling I had on 9 11. When I heard that the towers have been attacked, that The Pentagon had been attacked. We didn't know who did it. It might be Russia. It might be China. We had no idea at that point. A feeling like I'm in an elevator with a cable has snapped. I had that feeling one other occasion. The day in 1990 one when the hard line communists in Russia tried to overthrow Gorbachev and reimpose hardline communism. I had that same feeling of absolute vertigo. Like I was leaning out the window of the Empire State Building, looking down on an abyss. And I'll tell you why. That day, I realized that for most of my life, I assume that I knew how I would die in a nuclear war. There are nuclear explosions. I would not have grandchildren, but not of children. Nobody would remember me because all my Friends would be dead and everything I had ever known would be destroyed. That's how I grew up assuming I would die. And I had nightmares about it, where I would see my body get burned up by a blast wave or see myself dying of radiation in the wake of a nuclear war. And I was just that was the endgame that I assumed for my life and the life of everyone I knew. Until Gorbachev and Reagan worked out sort of ratcheted down the Cold War, I realized that on some level this dark certainty that had hung over my life had gradually lifted. And on that day in 1991, when the look like the communist generals were bringing back the Cold War, it all came rushing back. And I had a sense like I was falling. Same thing on 9 11 and the same thing yesterday. When I heard that the president of the United States was using the FBI like the secret police in Honduras or Guatemala or Venezuela or Liberia or Congo. We are in a lawless regime that will do anything to cling to power.
Kurt Schlichter's Completely Unfiltered Take on the DOJ and the FBI
"Kurt schlichter is here to help us unpack the raid on Mar-a-Lago Kurt. Here's what I'm trying to understand, why do you believe Merrick Garland has remained silent on the raid? Is there some Discord within DoJ why the silence from the attorney general? Well, it's all part of the plan, Charlie. Look, people keep treating this as if it's some sort of legitimate activity. And you have these soft Frito con senators like what we need to wait to see what evidence they have. Hey, dummy. Have you been a sweets since 2016? These guys have spent the last 6 years trying to frame the president. You think suddenly they're on to something? You think now they finally struck painter? Oh, he took a classified document with him in his files. Oh, we got him now because classified material. Next, you can't have that nail the memo went out. It's a crime again. Look, he's not saying anything because the purpose of this is to intimidate conservatives. It's to try and drum up a reaction from conservatives and conservatives have been taking in general the proper approach. They're not young about torches and pitchforks. Instead, they're focusing on cold and relentless fury. And they will take their revenge. The correct way at the ballot box. And then with brutal and ruthless oversight of these petty fascists. So they remain silent or he speaks, it's all irrelevant because it's all a lie.
The Best Commercial Ever? Chris Kohls With Sebastian Gorka
"Before I introduce my good buddy in special guest today, I'm going to show you an ad that I think was made 6 or 7 years ago kind of missed it and then it cropped up in social media. It's incredible. It's a real ad. I'm already a customer of the product, so it didn't make me buy more. But it shows you why the little bit of humor. Oh, hey, buddy. It's a great granddad here. In case you haven't noticed, I'm kind of busy fighting for your freedom in this little thing called the Second World War. But now you're using that freedom to hurl insult to celebrities on Twitter, listen hashtag, you're not gonna fight like a man, really shave like a man. Excuse me. What's up LOL and everything? Listen, hashtag stop LOL everything. Pure bloody genius I love it. I was already a barbasol customer. Now I'm going to go out and buy credit and stuff. A man who I'm sure appreciates it is a master of his own application of humor, or one of the best YouTube channels out there. It's mister Reagan, the man, the legend, Chris Cole's welcome back to Merck first. Oh, it's good to be here. How good is this? I'm not calling everybody. I'm going to start calling everybody hashtag now. Right. Hashtag and stop LOL ing, okay? Just cut out the LOL ing. Listen, hashtag. F stop LOL. I'm sick your LOL in hashtag. I'm gonna start saying that to everybody. How good is that? Have you seen that ad if I showed it to you on my TV show? I don't think so. And you know what? I bought barbasol before in the past. I've got some kind of gel thing now. But I'm going back to barbasol just because of that old ad. Could that add be made today, Chris cold? Of course, of course it could. But would it be made? Here's the thing. I do think we're in an inflection point. We're going to get to that later on in the show. So I don't want to get into it now. But I actually think it should be made. When everybody's going left and you go right, it's called point of difference. I know, you know, a little bit about business. There's something in marketing called point of difference. If you want people to buy your product or your service, you need to show your point of difference. If you're a product and you produce an ad that's unwoke or anti woke or just not woke, that's your point of difference. You're going to get all the customers right now.
Biden's Response to Russia Is Historically Weak
"Joe Biden suggested that we were pulling out of Afghanistan. This is going to free up our hands to deal with Russia. There's only one problem. The pullout from Afghanistan actually incentivized. The war between Russia and Ukraine because after all, where Joe Biden has been clear he has been wrong and where he has been unclear, he has provoked conflict. So no wonder Russia thought that Joe Biden was a weak horse. After all, Joe Biden had basically been a Russia defender in the 2012 election. You'll recall that he was ripping on Mitt Romney for suggesting that Russia was a geopolitical threat. Here's Joe Biden's circa 2012. Governor Romney's answer I thought was incredibly revealing. He acts like he thinks the Cold War is still on, Russia is still our major adversary. I don't know where he's been. I mean, we have disagreements with Russia, but they're united with us on Iran. The only way we're getting one of only two ways we're getting material into Afghanistan to our troops is through Russia. They are working closely with us. They've just said to Europe, if there is an oil shutdown in any way in the gulf, they'll consider increasing oil supplies to Europe. That's not this is not 1956. This is not 1956. It says Joe Biden. Don't worry. Rush will take care of the oil for the Europeans. Russia will help us with Afghanistan. And then of course, Russia helped us with Syria by basically taking Syria off the hands of president Obama to the wild cheers of people like Joe Biden. And in 2014, Russia invades Crimea. And Joe Biden has some words for Russia. That's pretty much all he has for Russia. So his vice president when that administration did nothing over the invasion of Crimea. Here was Joe Biden circa 2014. I want to make it clear. We stand resolutely with our Baltic allies and support of Ukrainian people and against Russian aggression. As long as Russia continues on this dark path, they will face increasing political and economic isolation. There are those who say that this action shows the old rules still apply. But Russia can not escape the fact that the world is changing and rejecting outright. Their behavior. Of course, that was a lie. It turns out that the steps that The White House pursued, under vice President Biden, were extraordinarily weak. And basically they announced a Visa ban on a couple of Russian and Ukrainian officials. And they canceled a couple of talks on trades and commercial ties. That was pretty much all of the things. And by the way, they then proceeded to deny lethal aid to Ukraine.
Doug Dives Into Part 2 of His JFK Speech Series
"Want to do what we're going to call part two of the John Kennedy speech series. Just the other day we did a breakdown of his inauguration speech. One in which we broke it down and really in the comments that I've heard is that if read in isolation, it would be hard to realize that this was a Democrat giving that speech. This was, it was about what we can do for our country, not what the country simply does for us. Our standing in the world standing strong against enemies. Again, Kennedy put laid for what would become known as Camelot in that speech. Now, later on, the candidate administration, although there are many who look back on it as this idealistic time in which everything was good and everything was great. You know, the reality is it's not true. The reality is, a lot of things were brewing on the world stage. We had the Cold War was getting worse. You had the issue with the space race was developing. We're going to talk about that today. You had the fact that we suffered a military defeat in the bay of pigs in Cuba. We had the later on was going to have the same year we're going to have a standoff with Russia in Cuba over missiles. I mean, there was a lot going on during this time that, you know, you were not saying we're good. I mean, he was struggling with many of his legislative accomplishments or trying to get going. But there was still this sense of all. They were still the sense of hope. There was still this sense of a little bit of wonder, I guess, if you would, that Kennedy and his family, you know, just from their young and their energetic nature was presenting to the world.
Jurors to visit still bloodstained Parkland school building
"Jurors in the trial of Florida school shooter Nicholas Cruz are expected to visit the high school where the mass shooting happened The 12 jurors and tin alternates will be bused today to Parkland's marjory Stoneman Douglas high school where Nicholas Cruz killed 14 students and three staff members four years ago The building has been sealed and surrounded by a chain link fence and rooms inside the three story building are still blood spattered with bullet holes prosecutors are hoping to visit will help prove that the former stillman Douglas students actions were cold calculated heinous and cruel the 23 year old Cruz pleaded guilty in October to 17 counts of first degree murder This trial is only to decide whether he sentenced to death or life without parole I'm Donna water
Chaos Is Breaking out Over Pelosi's Visit to Taiwan
"Chaos is breaking out over Nancy Pelosi's visit to Taiwan. According to The Wall Street Journal, Nancy Pelosi says that she is going to visit Taiwan and meet with government officials this week to find warnings from Beijing not to do so and setting up the potential for increased tensions between the United States and China. People that Pelosi is planning to see in Taiwan have been informed of her imminent arrival, a person familiar with the matter said, though some details remain in flux, some meetings are scheduled for Tuesday evening, most are set for Wednesday the person said indicating they include Taiwanese government officials. She's definitely coming the person said, the only variable is whether she spends the night in Taipei. A visit by Pelosi would make her the first House speaker to do so in 25 years and put her in the center of a long-standing flashpoint in U.S. China relations. U.S. support for Taiwan may now democratically govern island, which Beijing claims as Chinese territory. Joe Biden has I believe twice already during his presidency. He suggested that he supports an independent Taiwan and his Defense Department and State Department had to rush out and say, hey, no, no, no, no, guys, guys. We still hold by the one China policy Taiwan is still theoretically a part of China, but it's two different governances. Joe Biden has been muddying the waters. One of the things you can not do in international relations is muddy the waters. You have to have some very clear lines about what it is you believe and what you are willing to do because nearly all serious conflict begins with a misperception of strength or weakness on the other side. Virtually all, this is true of Ukraine. It is true of what's happening right now in China. It was true of the Gulf War. Misperceptions are generally what lead to war. Clarity is what leads to not war. The Cold War had an extraordinary amount of clarity between the United States and the USSR, which meant that you could be in a Cold War for literally half a century. Because both sides knew if you violate this line, there will be a nuclear exchange and we both will be gone. And while the truth is, that the United States is being extraordinarily unclear about what exactly believes about Taiwan. Joe Biden says things that I think are correct about Taiwanese independence. But he doesn't actually have the stones to back it up in terms of strengthening America's economy, strengthening our military. He's not willing to do any of those things. And so you almost have the worst of both scenarios.
New Founding's Matt Peterson on Justice Alito, Christian Nationalism
"With us right now is a great American patriot cofounder and general partner of new founding and also the president of American firebrand super PAC and friend of the show. Matt Peterson Matt, welcome back to the program. Hey, it's great to be here, Charlie. So Matt, I want to get through a couple news items here. But first, I want to play a piece of tape here from justice Alito's speech. I think he gave it in Rome, which is super scary 'cause that's where the Catholic Church is headquartered and not allowed to do that. And I want to play cut 94 here. And the way the media has responded is a new line of attack that you can see in kind of the smart coordinated circles, the people that are considered to be smarter than not. However, they are all kind of coordinating their attacks around Christian nationalism, play cut 94. Over the last few weeks, since I had the honor, this term of writing, I think, the only Supreme Court decision in the history of that institution that has been lambasted by a cold string of foreign leaders. Who felt perfectly fine commenting on American law. One of these was former prime minister Boris Johnson. But he paid the price, Matt kind of mocking Boris Johnson there, Sam Alito, who I think is the best thing George W. Bush ever gave us, probably my favorite member of the court. They're attacking him as being a Christian nationalist. What do they mean by that, Matt? Well, in their minds, of course, they think Christian nationalism is a smear. They think both of those words are bad. And if you put them together, it's too bad things. And that's one big bad thing, and it's a scary monster, which I think in their minds means something like handmaid's tale and enforced Christian religion. They think it's racist too, somehow they seem to only regard whites as Christians, interesting. But white people who are Christian controlling the country and shoving their views down everyone else's throat is what they mean by it. And the hilarious thing here is that neither of those words are bad and when you put them together, you actually get what I think millions of people throughout the country think is normal.
'New Cold War': Russia and West vie for influence in Africa
"Is it a new Cold War Russia and the west Pfeiffer influence in Africa Russian French and American leaders are criss-crossing Africa to win support for their positions on the war in Ukraine waging what some say is the most intense competition of influence on the continent since the Cold War Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov in his travels across the drought and hunger stricken continent has sought to portray the west as the villain blaming it for rising food prices while French president Emmanuel Macron has accused the Kremlin of cynically using food as a weapon words perhaps calculated to appeal to listeners in post colonial Africa I'm Charles De Ledesma
Jerome Powell Won't Admit We're Headed for a Recession
"So the audiology of the Democrat party in the American Marxist is a poison In its spreads everywhere just does Jerome Powell's at a press conference today He says I really don't think it's likely we'll get into a recession Guys cold as a fish Cut 11 go All I've really said is I don't think it's likely that the U.S. economy is in a recession now And I've explained why that is the case Because you do see a very strong labor market I think the public will see that as well Going forward public will see what is while you idiot I can't tell you how many small businesses small businessmen and women I talk to who say they can't fill their jobs How many supermarkets do you see with signs help want it They're all over the place 7 11s gas stations help wanted We don't have enough truckers Help wanted What are they talking about What are they looking at Now keep something in mind This guy Jerome Powell Jerry Jerry Powell he helped cause this situation He's going to be the last to confess to it
Listener: If Trump Is Indicted, Jan. 6 Will Look Like a Sunday Picnic
"Somebody sent me a text today on the pure talk text line, which made my blood run cold. I am not an advocate of violence, I have denounced the few hundred people who engaged in violence on January 6th. I denounced the thousands and thousands of people who engaged in violence after George Floyd was killed. I am up to here with people thinking that violence is part of our public discourse. It's not. But this text message reflects the sheer rage that an indictment of Donald Trump is going to lead to. Here is the text from Dallas on the pure talk text line. If they charge and convict Donald Trump, what comes next will make January 6th I know you look like a Sunday picnic. We had an now that's scares me. It really does. I don't like to think what this country is going to look like. If the beast gets its way. If the media have to go home now if the Democrats, if the swamp gets its way and Trump is charged with criminal activity it's a very tough simply because he did not and does not accept the outcome of the election. Just like Pelosi and Hillary and all the rest of them didn't accept the outcome of 2016. If they indict this guy play into the God help our country.
Germany Rethinks Nuclear Power Exit
"Germany is rethinking its exit from the nuclear power stage according to the telegraph. What a surprise. There you turn on nuclear power comes as Russia cuts off four fifths of their gas. A long dark cold winter, and we better look, if you don't want to be cold in the winter and roasting in the summer, you better get a bunch of nuclear power plants built in your country, the new ones, the good ones, including the United States.
Why Harry Truman Refused to Drop the Atomic Bomb
"I love the conversational style that Truman uses here. He says, now once in a while, I'll get a letter from some impatient person asking, why don't we get it over with? Why don't we issue an ultimatum make all out war drop the atomic bomb? And for most Americans, the answer is quite simple. We're not made that way. We're a moral people, pieces are gold with justice and freedom. We can not of our very free will violate the principles that we are striving to defend. The whole purpose of what we're doing to prevent World War three, starting a war is no way to make peace. An interesting point of view there because, again, he viewed the involvement in Korea. He viewed the involvement of the use or non use of the atomic bomb, was that they were trying to avoid a war. And at this point in time, the lord had lived with the world he lived 8 years without any kind of other nuclear devices being used, atomic device being used, and he viewed that as a success. Now he also was very adamant in saying that, look, using these devices would end the Cold War. It would end the communists with me, but it also end hours as well. He understood that the forming doctrine of mutually assured destruction and that was what was coming on.
"cold" Discussed on Cold
"We don't know the ending of their story. Well and to be clear we don't. We don't know exactly what was discussed. It may be that he was giving some of those details over but what we do know. Is that kim. And greg left that very unsatisfied and very much convinced that he was not telling. The truth will not greg said. Kim didn't get the answer she was looking for. She she wanted to know. Why did it break his arm But you know. I i would take comfort. I don't know if they take him for this. But i would take comfort from the idea that i did what i could to get the information i could for my mom. Because would you do this. Yeah i would absolutely. I think that i would i don. I probably be frustrated and sad like kim. Yeah but i would do it anyway. Yeah you do everything you could try to get her out. Why wouldn't you and understand what happened to my mom. Yeah yeah well. Let's go to the next one. Which i think just months of episode ten. See him get another chance at start missing all over again. It kind of made me feel like you know like there's no justice like this guy keeps on going and going getting what he wants when he knows he's already testified. He got up on the stand. He told them exactly what he did. He ruined a lot of people's lives. And here you're giving him another chance. It's just not fair so doug levels third try with the utah..
"cold" Discussed on Cold
"Item is still has to enter the dog's nose go into the membrane and be processed by the brain. If you're not close to that the dog can't magically say keith over there two hundred yards go get him. You have to get close enough to be right on it bay. Owing do you know. Do you have any idea how deep your dog could or how dp has in the past signaled at finding something I imagine once you get down like a foot in the dirt. People are starting to wonder whether or not your dog is wrong. Well afoot start a big deal. That's pretty easy. It's like a big deal. That's pretty for the dogs we would. We're doing certifications or dogs. So what looks to be hard. When do you start having doubts. A cow deep. I haven't thought about it off to give that some thought and get back to you on that one You have faith in your dog. That i do. I do you know there are times where you know. Sometimes dogs can be royal pains and there are times where he's not as working as good as other times but when he tells me something i believe him. Yeah yeah I just want her. 'cause i thought like people other people might look at it who don't work with dogs and say well. He's not he's mistaken. Your dog is mistaken. There's not anything here. We can't see it. And i just wondered like how confident as a handler. You would be about like saying no. He hit something. I don't know what it is because he couldn't tell you it's saliva. It's it's blood or probably very poor example but blood and other tissues and de compass is more we. We did We did research recently at A campground up in box elder county and it was a cold case and Somebody had some information that they said something bad happened in that campground and we took out Several dogs and We had about half. i remember right. We had six out of eight dogs all indicate in the same area and The the The county sheriff. At that time worked with mace came out and they started d. Larry the area well. What does that delaring.
"cold" Discussed on Cold
"The first thing that impressed me is the impact that having death is a possible sentence hatami clients watching what they went through. Dealing with the prospect at their lives would end that. that's something i will never forget And the other sort of component of it is that when you look at how the death penalty is meted out and this is probably as much on a national level as it is at a statewide level. There's an inconsistency in its application and the these cases that involved death as a possibility are resolved Or go to trial based on who you may be dealing with what jurisdiction you find yourself in. What part of the country find yourself in and you're talking about people that are uniformly. Just have these horrible life experiences and put these people to death You know based on the worst you know five minutes of their life. I mean it's it's i think. There's a lack of justice in that you communicate with people frequently about this in in fact state lawmakers about abolishing the death penalty. What do you argue to them. I argue many of the things that i've indicated here that You know. I try to steer away from a discussion about my own personal beliefs about the death penalty. Because it's almost religious Me saying i don't think it's just isn't gonna sway anybody. I tried to approach it more. From a practical point of view. In one of the things we look at. It are the economic costs When we talk about that and one of the things that i look at in in is that i looked to the to the impact on the victims of these crimes So we talk about all that stuff. what is the the difference in cost between a death. Penalty appeal appeal appeal appeal and a life in prison. It's millions of dollars We've there have been studies on a national level that have been done There have been studies done on a state level And i don't i'm not in.
"cold" Discussed on Cold
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"cold" Discussed on Cold
"Cases are ever the same if he ever talked to a police officer they said i've done it all. I've done it all. It's not true. No one has done it all know what is seen it all. You'll see things that are overlap. you'll see things that have similarities. No-one has done at all. No one's seen it all. It's like a fingerprint right there no two the same. There's always something different about a case in you have to look at that. Take the similarities and work at like the that you're gonna have you've got you've got to take it as it'd be fluid if that makes sense. Is there different emotional component when you're working in a cold-case versus a new homicide there is there is Go back to the main water case again because of all my my twenty years of police as a police officer. That was the most rewarding thing i've ever done in. My career may finding answers for that family and founding answer for any family now. It's something that just happened out. The family still need that and and being able to help people get answers and closure is is an amazing something like that. It's especially amazing when it's been that long and you have family just had. No idea happened to to their family. Their loved one daughter sister for twenty years and which he flew out here. She flew out here in february of two thousand nine hundred nine the sister from mexico. We had some amazing help and funding with crime victim. Reparations they pay for everything it was. Actually i still get emotional. When i taught i feel i get emotional about this for them to get. That closure was amazing and of a lot of really cool cases rewarding. Why i like what. I do investigations. There's a lot of depth and dimensions. So anytime you can do that. It's it's cool. That makes a payday. It's a payday right. And this is the biggest payday on this. Was this made water case for me. But that's so rare very is it is your job then is it is investigating these cold cases. I know you said it was very rewarding. Is it oftentimes more frustrating though than a a a homicide that happened a few days ago and you have all the evidence that you can just track down two very different things really because it's such a disadvantage with a cold case. You're you're you're looking back on some happen. How many years ago just finding report sometimes is challenging. Trying to find evidence is challenging wasn't even collected was not if it was that has been disposed of or find that quite often across the board as evidence that they didn't know what they had. And.
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"Think well it could do both. I think you have to weigh that out. You know in this case like the made motorcade dateline did a segment all scott kimball and it had a link to our case so our hope from that was to generate something and it didn't it didn't it. Didn't we struck out. We tried so then. We went to the local media. And we've got what we needed so it can help you. It can hurt you for not careful. You have to try to manage that but sometimes that's what you need. You just need to bring attention to to the case like if you've got nothing else and you're like hey there's sometimes agencies just say here's a reward for this. If you know anything about this missing person what does it take. You got to be creative. Is it ever hard for you as an investigator that some of these real life crimes. These tragedies happen to real people become entertainment. it bothers us.
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"In the night. Her tom peters was a co-conspirator with dog level to kill joyce joost. How often do we have co-conspirators in situations like this. And how do you deal with them. Co-conspirators happen all the time. That is common and especially you know i think back on my career i spent in the gang unit. You had a carload people who drive by shooting you got lots of people who are potentially can be. Who's the shooter in that group. Who drove the car. Whose idea what i mean. There's all that comes into play and so usually you can kind of connect them because of the circumstances. This is a little unique. Because i don't know how much was known about his position or role in this prior to him coming forth and saying so that can be a little unique and so then you have to establish. Is it truly co-conspirator. I'd does he have the knowledge enough knowledge about what took place. In order to be credible one of the things i found fascinating about this episode of cold was how the investigation takes detective carpenter to the prison. Tom is in prison He's got a long drug history He was going to accept money to killjoys. Did accept money. Kill joyce so. It's not like he's a guy who is without credibility issues. I guess it will be the best way to put it. And i just wondered from your perspective. How do you balance those or do you sort through that. As you're getting information from somebody who is incarcerated and does have their own criminal issues so there is a level of complexity but it would be very naive to trust or distrust somebody depending on their circumstances at the moment. but isn't that hard not to do. Yes it's very hard. Because we all prejudge right. And then you start. Talking about. gender comes into play. race comes into play. I mean there's so many different things is someone serving life sentence right. Is there outcome or outlook on life vastly different than someone who may be getting out in a short period of time or is there somebody who has committed some sort of crime not involved in the one that you're investigating but doesn't want you to find out about that because they could potentially go to jail for that crime so they're going to be i. It becomes very complicated and very circular. In how you approach these things. Yeah so you're talking to people who are behind bars like he was. How do you say this is the nugget of information that i needed how i mean does it. Does it fit your theory or does it take you somewhere else like. How do you judge those well. So i think what you do is you..
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"Question are you a. pb and j. person or more of a cold cut sandwich kind of person in either case. Do you find your bread. Choices rather bland. I'm a pb and j. guy myself and my answer to the second question is undoubtedly yes. There's nothing worse than cardboard white bread. So i'm going to amp up my.
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"Get the sense of what's right and what's wrong. I've often stated that thirty percent of the decisions were really easy because you scratch your head and you wonder why is this individual imprison in the first place. They've made a mistake. It's very evident that there's an effort had rehabilitation restitution and reform. There's thirty percent. That probably should never leave prison and the forty percent in the gray area. That's the tough decisions so In our in our case that we're focusing on the season doug level was in prison from seventy nine to eighty to a five to life and was paroled. Two and a half years early. His next crimes were dui's and then he was investigated for a stolen car. Theft ring but the next one was rape. What is it like when somebody you've let out the sides to commit more crime. Oh it's gut wrenching. I mean it's it's horrible I was chair and i would see A new crime on tv. reported I would constantly worry. Was that someone that we let out. Is that somebody that that we made a mistake on. So it age issue. I.
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"But i want to back up for just a second. Because i wasn't a journalist at the time. But if you have the state legislature investigating the satanic panic and eating a task force for the the utah thirty general's office as referenced in that that clip saying that. They're they're investigating these. They know they basically said it's real that means we have to. We have to cover that. Because they're so it. It kind of feeds on itself. And i would just end by saying and this part of the discussion by saying This seems like something that couldn't there's no way we've learned our lesson. It was too weird to wild and it ruined too many lives. But it's not really gone away gone anywhere right like it's it's just been reincarnated for the two thousand twenty's with cunanan. You know what end what what the reason was for that. I have no idea. I have no idea if this came from like horror movies originally. I know that it's politically motivated. Now but i. I just knew it upset and ruined a lot of lives in the nineties. And it's certainly doing the same late eighties and ninety yoga. Yeah i wanna go to another clip now This is something that you both. You and i mentioned was kind of a pivotal moment. Let's play this clip. Your.
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"I'm amy donelson. And i'm sure a worsley and this is cold. I'm so excited for our guest today. Elizabeth smart. I am so thrilled to stand before the people of america today and give hope to other victims who have not spoken out about what's happened to them. Her case captured the nation's attention when she was abducted from her salt lake city home in june of two thousand. Two investigators found nine months later and arrested her kidnappers. Who were brian. David mitchell and wanda bars e call. If i think that emmanuel looking for kids i looked at him and he looked at me and i can tell when i saw his face. That's the man that's when i called. They asked her you elizabeth smart and she says thou say we have found Elizabeth smart she is here and well..
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"I'm here with dave collie we wanted to talk about a few big moments in episode thirteen. Thanks for joining me day. Yeah there are a lot of them. Time round tons this one though is at the beginning of the episode and go ahead and play the sound bite trying to help child care dozen sociopath immediately. Civilly used the when he goes looked up. So that's sean young on recording and sean says in pretty surprising things there. What do you think of what he said. I think it's more surprising. Because he knows he's being recorded right. You actually hear him in one of those clips in the episode. Say hi doug assuming that doug is going to hear the recording. I noticed that That's that's funny. Many of us might express candid thoughts like that in private. But he's talking to another attorney. Who heard job in that moment is basically to go to court and prove that sean didn't do a good job. And so you might expect that sean. Young in that moment would be careful about his words What we hear is a very. I think unfiltered version shown young. Saying look i you know. I laid it all out on the line and i'm not happy with how this turned out. I'm not happy with doug and now this has taken a huge hit on my career so surprising surprising to me that he would say what he said. Yeah absolutely now. I've not had a chance to speak with sean myself. I understand you know. There are a lot of other things going on in his personal life. At this time that we're kind of increasing stress level that came out in in the evidentiary hearing. He actually testified which is how we got a hold of this recording. It was entered as evidence. you know. it's a high stress job but at the same time if you take on that task of representing somebody who is facing a death sentence potential. Death sentence You have to know that you are going to be looked at with the most intense microscope. The the work that you did And there. I think have been some really good questions about okay. Did the work that sean young did on this case did it Rise to the level that you would expect professionally and did sean bifida basically..
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"I have a hard time with that especially not having had the chance to sit down and talk to doug Which i would like to be able to do and hopefully have him honestly answer questions Based on what. We know. Just factually about the details of the crime is described by rhonda. you know it's possible there any incentive for him to not really at this point. I don't think i mean so if you go back and you look at what happened in ninety three when doug originally said he would take police. Were joyce's body was that was his high stakes is it could possibly be it was life or death yes or no okay everyone. I would like your theories on why that happened. Why did he do that. Why go to all that trouble if he knew if the if he wasn't going to give them. The body mean is life hanging in the balance. He could he avoid death row. I think doug is. i mean just. I've never met him interviewed him. But reading over the case file. I do think he is a master manipulator and the one phrase when i went through everything. You know reading everything. The one thing that i still go back to is when he's telling rhonda you know. His mother has died. And he's telling rhonda that you know he's done something even worse and so i've always wondered like what could be possibly worse than you know murdering and raping joyce and i wonder if that in some way connected to why he doesn't want to reveal the spot of the body about you david. I mean i think doug was in a situation where he was stuck. And so what do you do when you're stuck while you play the cars that you've got in front of you He was making a better situation for himself. The day of right he gets out of prison. He gets to go up in the mountains. This is a good time. He gets to have a beer. He's making a better situation for himself on appeal because now he gets the claim. Look i did what i could. I helped as best. I can You know doug's whole thing. During this exchange in ninety three was he wanted the chance of parole and they took that off the table. And so i don't think he was interested in negotiating with them one way or the other because the only thing he wanted which was the shot up parole. Wasn't there anymore. Did you write. The law changed so i in my view the cards that he held were i can. And i'm i'm kind of with dave on this i can get out of prison. I can have my beer..
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"To forgive and go on and he's earned this forgiveness and i'll say this first of all your victim you get to decide when you and if you ever forgive her and secondly The the it's not required if the person doesn't do anything to to to make amends for that like he didn't even reach out to them. He's never apologized to them. It's not any. How would they forgive him and move on other than you know in his absence because he's done nothing you know. He's been a nice person in prison and donated some money to to a charity. What has he done for them. Yeah where's doesn't even say her name. Yeah yeah wh- where's the effort there and why would you think they would feel better about it I i just found that that enraged me. Yeah i literally must through my earphones across the kitchen and we dive into a religious conversation as well as the atonement is there whether the family acknowledges that are not. I mean. We're not going to go there but it was a little bit and raging because you can't dictate to of a crime victims family. Well i especially think and maybe it's because in this supposed to feel in this episode. I thought david a particular league masterful job of taking us inside the long painful tale of grief it has impacted her grandchildren. It's taken from them. The kind of mom they might have had or You know the care freeness of any aspect of your life. Like i think of the conversation we had with matt like it after listening to just the very real and just painful aspects of something. That happened to your to your mom. It's a distant memory for everybody else for them. It's very real hole ripped into their lives for decades that they've never been able to make right and no one's really tried to make it right so for me. It was like i. You don't do that to yell at somebody. But i didn't instead. I went for a jog..
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"Horrific and And i told my team early on. I said we we need to not forget when you read through the file and you through things to read through. Doug's description of what he did the night that he took her life and he didn't give any graphic details but when he talked about how ronda had dropped him off across the street from her apartment in. I'm familiar with that area. And waited behind bush for several hours for her light to go off the first time i read that had an impact on me. It was chilling. And i told members of of our team. I said we need to remember that because the jury will hear it that way and maybe even worse they members of the jury. Not criminal defense attorneys. They haven't dealt with murder haven't dealt with that that the type of cd part of life and so.
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"I think he's telling people this stuff i don't. I don't think. I think he's telling lots of lies so i don't necessarily think the snitch is lying. But i definitely was like. There's no way you could swim with cinder blocks in a body. I mean anybody's tried to carry somebody who's asleep or injured. Deadweight is really hard to move anyway but imagine wrapped in plastic with a cinder block. I don't know does it. Seem possible to you I don't know i mean i. It's not very plausible. Could you get her down. The hill will guess. But could you swim out. I mean your point about physics is is not incorrect would be rather difficult but it also matches kind of kind of what he told rhonda. He told her causey up by causey but he told her buried under leaves. Yeah but that's what i'm saying. He's telling all these different little bits and pieces of lies. Right is it misdirection. Is he just storyteller. Which one has the kernel of truth. Actually one other thing that that might be in play here is you know. I wonder if doug might be telling different. People different things to see what comes back to him in an investigation loop because then he will know who it is who has ratted on him a loyalty test. Which is i mean. I fully believe that that happens in prison that they tell people different things i mean. It's it's like if an investigator released different pieces of information to see what does and doesn't you know. Take hold out there in the rumor mill. I don't see why he wouldn't. But yeah i'm i mean that that might that's a really good point in a really good reason for him to be lying outside of he's just lying to grazing right right. You know. I mean there's a lot of reasons but i do think it having a bunch of theories in having a lot of chaos around it does ensure his secret stay safe until he wants to reveal it. Okay another really big moment in this episode. Was the the moment when kim and greg actually go visit doug level in prison..