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Bobby on Sharna Not Returning to Dancing with the Stars + The Cereal Fantasy Draft + Bobby Reads Cringe Worthy Message He Sent To A Girl

The Bobby Bones Show

1:54:44 hr | 1 year ago

Bobby on Sharna Not Returning to Dancing with the Stars + The Cereal Fantasy Draft + Bobby Reads Cringe Worthy Message He Sent To A Girl

"And we're back at the ron burgundy podcasts season two baby pressure team what we'd do. I brush my teeth. Whenever what else does on holidays and sometimes i forget. I'm not perfect smile of your breath bother you being the smell of rare steak aged whiskey. Excuse no carolina that doesn't bother me. Listen to the ron burgundy podcast on apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever after you find your podcasts bobby bones post show pre show. I just got the alert that a netflix has announced their september titles coming up he gets care about this super bads on that flicks <hes> three hundred which i loved that a good movie i liked it a lot lord of the rings return of the king the walking dead season nine between two ferns the movie is you know the movie that golfing akkas i don't either. That's that's coming out. Eat pray love. Oh and more speaking of eat pray love. I'm gonna eat pray love trip breath coming up pretty soon. I got myself do some soul-searching. Is that what the movie's about the book the movie he's like finding yourself. Strong woman is looking to find a real feminine going like india well. You can take a guess. I'll give you one guess here because the i guess how you feel let's do this music. I'll be going alone on a trip for baker for a few days. My own version of eat pray. Love eddie has been eliminated from the competition. You know he knows it. Do you told him he knows it. I do why therefore i will keep my mouth shut. Why because i made you decide to do it that way. Interesting don't get jelly he didn't i didn't tell them. How did you find out somebody else. One of my friends was like are you doing this and i was like and eddie. Was there and i had to say yes or now doing this okay time. It's something that you're doing one one guest eat. Pray love bobby two thousand nineteen mighty until yesterday the house look at eighty guests. Are you doing what it's going to cambodia. Don't have anywhere cambodia. I didn't tell eddie was around when someone guessed it. He scared of going to mexico cambodia. I probably go to cambodia before mexico yeah yeah. It's fine lunchbox. Yeah you're going to croatia. That's i mean. I don't even know where that is. Give us a hint. I mean now. We're just throwing countries out there italy now guest that good. You thoughtfully made a comment. You're going to italy already guessed it. Why would i can't we haven't guessed it. I guess it with you. One on one not italy wasn't on air even play this game off air which is already found out. We were number to denote you. Wanna guess ireland guess who knows what do you mean. I didn't hit the button it could be. That's why are your now deflecting boom or do. I deflect sometimes two three off the next time i wanted to flex and his are you going to visit your ancestors. I did that twenty-three me and it was the the palest results ever. Are you irish i am. I don't know i know it was like england england and england maybe ireland. Maybe it'll it was not italy iliad too. I was all the pill things and then didn't like a little part of africa. It was a little bit there so i won't be leaving on. I thought i asked you at though whatever you see the larry king store the update from yesterday this is well. It's kind of sad. Oh no larry king's wife doesn't want to go to war with him because doctors told her as long to live for so just write it out why go through the stress of divorce larry king's wife life sean is not going to declare war on her now estranged husband who just filed for divorce because she's been told by the doctors he's dying. Why isn't he told only she told yeah yeah doctors can't and tell her that unless he gave consent hippo laws and if you're married even if i'm pretty sure you have to give consent so maybe he did at some point but yeah even if you're remarried people like my they'll doctors will call my or my wife will call me. Hey will you call your doctor. Tell him to to tell them to tell me the information because they won't give it a wife yeah interesting. You're saying even our best friend. That's our doctor. He's he won't tell me things about my own family members. I feel like i it's my kids. My mom yeah my dad my husband. He's done especially when my mom was going through her stuff. I am not your kids. They tell your kids. I think kids sorry you have to know that i know she does not need to know no but it was like they have to take that seriously even if their family friend like he and i appreciated that in him but i'd be like dude. Just tell me. I need to know this something from my mom real quick. He's like amy can't click on them and dude it in work. <hes> speaking of medicine a team has a three ball all hair. A three pound hairball removed from stomach l. Why is there air 'cause. It's like a thing turns out hair's not good for your stomach. She ended up having a giant hairball. Cats get removed move from her stomach. <hes> fourteen year old complaining about stomach pain and vomiting. She went to the doctors. They were amazed at the three pound hairball wedge in her stomach. She was diagnosed with rapunzel syndrome. No it's real this puzzle syndrome. It is real. It's only been reported. Sixty times doctors were able treated with surgery. She's now in stable condition. What is it you wanna hear each your hair. Really amy would use to eat tonight here. We'll out my hair. I'm getting so much better. I still do it from time to time but i'm way better resisting. I'll just pull at it a little bit but i won't pull it all the way out. 'cause i was getting a ball that tug o that's yeah because i was getting a bald spot right here and so my hair person was like you're cut that out and so yeah i've learned to kind of just whoa whoa you almost just pulled your hair right now. I resisted. I pulled it if i hear right ear. It's there's something about it right here. It's only right here. I lifeless hill baby. How field isn't that. They know that eddie and i were at my yesterday and amy kept trying to facetime me. Why like uh-huh nine times in a row across. I was like all right. I'll just call it a second time but the fifth time i was like what is happening. Why why didn't you use the emerging were working. We're doing a podcast urgency. Yeah we weren't apply guests and i thought you would text me if it was a real emergency. What if i was stuck doc somewhere and all i had was facetime. You could try someone else. How would you only have a shot after that many times. You didn't answer but couldn't we were on the air her. Why don't you need to be fair. I didn't know that bobby was called. That many times got a hold of the facetime stevens the money and he had a music question. He was practicing his drums any had a question about his music sheet and he decided he wanted to call bobby and what was the question. Do you remember i don't know i don't know music but he was really desperate to talk to you and like his face. I walked back in the room and he looked so sad and i'm like what's wrong with you. I put it on my instagram. It's probably still up radio. Amy and i'm like what do you look so sad. God because you weren't answering and i didn't know he tried to call a lot a lot. I remember when i took piano <hes> adult and had to learn how to read music hard man yeah as language and as an adult. You got to do que to sit around yeah. It was like upside down. It'll music notes landed on this scale. You read music now if you gave me a week. I'd probably hop back into it but i was so beginner i did. I took lessons for like a year. Learn a lot of the basics just so i could know enough yeah but an emmy your son drum set now no practices drums at the counter and then he when he goes to lessons. He plays her thumbs but he he's at the counter. Christmas uncle bobby's gift him a drum set a real loud. One awesome wrong was up. I told you there's those ones. The electrons are too expensive but bobby was on narrowed narrowed works his dreams right. He needs a real drum kit whatever i think we should maybe i don't know where we put it though the living room no not deliver your bedroom but if he's into it and it could be good for him than i want it. I want it for him. Oh yeah the garage mahal other house at your dad's not moving into now because he's going into the old folks residents <hes> that's what you into an apartment -partment with other elderly. People okay folks dorm. That'd be awesome awesome right now. The food will be great. We we'd rocking out yeah. I guess what they gave me a discount because my dad is a feeding tube i said. I don't even know if this is work but i said hey. I'm sure the rent is like you know a alive because you've served three meals a day and that's included in the price. I said what if i were to tell you. My dad doesn't eat shell she goes. I'm gonna rise it. Does she writes it down slides it to him all right feeding tube what yeah they said well i. We've never had that before. They're like let us look into it and they looked into it and they got back to us and boom get a discount. Dave ramsey is at the best price. You can give me that is the thing that is a king. Is that shoot with old folks homes apartments for elderly whatever we know we got a bunch which <hes> people going. Hey you made a song about me. Malls about paul's we are going to release our papa song soon. Just kinda even it out you know when you go to yoga you have to do if you do one side of the body <unk> the other side of the body equally and so we if we hit me malls we got hit. Pathological papa's will exhaust are older folks songs boyd avenue older folks on coming up real soon and we write these because we love them. Mo folks miss him of course <hes>. Let's see what was i going to do here. Are you into what to hap- what's happening right now in your life. Would you wanna talk. I remember hit us with that new pete. This is a new thing about putting on the show. I hit raimondo. It was to have samy well. Whoa hold on. I ready my what's the hats. I had it but i use it for something. Oh i use it my pile. Let's see i'll go first kimmy again. What's the hat yeah. Well was the half to me right now. Is i got a new phone already. I win on because drop them off my phone when the poor and say my dog what's happening is i got on. I went to the insurance thing and apple and i had insurance on my phone and the night before i was like boom this a turn your iphone off. I turn it off and they millman like twelve hours. It's my house wow that's awesome and so i haven't in my house. I'm going to take my cloud here. Upload them other phone and i got a new phone nice. That's what's the half's is that phone. Insurance is money. That's what my h- apps lunchbox you're up. Oh man august twenty eighth can't get here fast enough guys wore the world's season two premiers on m._t._v. That's the challenge. If you don't know what i'm talking about we didn't all the trailer is i thought it was the world all the world's. It was like an old band the most controversial radio show of all time because people thought it was real. It was real aliens. Were coming down. It was on the road eighty four book yeah antennae four no s._i._m. That's him go ahead. Finish your deal so i mean i can't yeah wait set your d._v._r. Get your popcorn ready. It's going to be amazing full of drama backstabs slow. I mean it's gonna be awesome more the world august twenty eighth. I'm so confused what you guys are talking about tom. Cruise is also an award. That's tom cruise worlds. Oh that was later win the remake yet not the old one good god make sure here. What's that georgia okay for. Not orson welles georgiana four yeah same close <hes> yeah or started questioning myself because i knew it wasn't what i was like. Maybe i'm wrong. Uh george orwell or joel orson or well. I mean you can see how that's easily mixed up definitely can <hes> what's the half's amy. Let's go wow l. Whoa i knew bit annual amy. What's the ads okay so. Maybe maybe you've seen that facebook launched their whole clear history feature and that's all because what's in that movie we watched the documentary no so what about the giant trades baseball cards cambridge in alaska. What's it called factory that great hack eh that like taught you all about this so mark zuckerberg is part of that whole drama was like hey. We're going to have to clear history thing but actually doesn't clear it for good. Eh still lives on the facebook server so it's still out there but it'll just be disconnected from individual users accounts tabby in your life right. Now i was told it was supposed was to be news and if one person at a personal story you could bring a personal story and boom you went person. Also i had to go new. Oh whatever you want. That's always what's happening in your life talked about his life long as over testing new bit here hey so in a couple of weeks. We are going to go to kansas the raising of the it's. We're playing affair wait. He's going personal not even just amy this again amy by the way we can modify amy yeah i know but bobby busted out of the personal stories over here like oh god. I go find a new st- okay. We'll come back to you for your personal. The law can't play so i started looking at foods at the at the county fair or the state fair and i found some really good food that i'm looking forward to. They have a moon burger that they have. It's like meat and cheese but instead of buns. It's like a moon pie. Wow that sounds amazing though i'm like looking forward to that and then now and when we when we tour like my kids are always like what are you bringing back so obviously gonna bring that back food and by the way we go do the safer and hutchinson then we go on on a bus overnight to saint louis foods. Gotta stay good for days frigerator in the bus and we don't be mad. We're figuring this out. I'm going to add i just had a good personal one our no. It's not even good. I just was ready. I don't like not being prepared. Go ahead. I was told it was something you're looking forward your world whether it's a new story ambient in your world it. It's well my the only one that got the memo that said hey we're try- nikkei but even then we've already decided we're moving from those so i know but i remind was lying story it. It was released by m._t._v. store as life was a combo mic. Simon is yeah fair. Whatever's happening in your world world okay. That's the only rule now we've modified it so don't have to stress about news. Whatever's happening in your world. Hey and that's how we go to the next one. Hey uh well. I got busted cheating to stevenson and it's really putting a damper on my nights because i read to him every night and i normally skip sentences or paragraphs because i can't because he couldn't really read that well and then we help us get through chapters in the book a lot faster and be like okay okay buddy type of go to bed and now that he knows words he can tell them skipping things and he's like mom. You miss that god skipped out you have have to go back and i'm like with other parents do this right another only one attempt feeling this segment and then we had a little issue here where it's going. It's still something you're kind of looking forward to. You got a new phone. It's in the world where you're looking forward to. I'm not perhaps what's happening like in the sixties and certainties wants to happen right. I'm not looking for reading and you're like yeah. That's all right. Hold on war. What's number two. What's the haves. I finished binge-watching mindhunter season two and i'm really sad because there's not a season three confirmed. Now i have to wait potentially like two years but all of the cast did sign on for three more seasons so there's more she more yes. Is it really good. I'm three episodes in yeah and it ends up something. We beat spoiler. It just ends us something with b._t. Cave that leaves you totally hanging. I love that song bump bump bump bump. Remember song dumping up bump bump bump bump bump know what you're talking about. Bump bump bump bump. He's still got. What's the house going making away. He'll pick your nose or raising cameras. Going elbow. Divas knows okay so what's the hatch we transitioned. It was a ray hits the clip and then something in your world also in this segment. Can you help me with something for what's the hap is making the big league league. Which is the show okay. I do like it. We go fast and something and you're willing to be a new store like lunchboxes was m._t._v.'s story is what he likes audio from that all you have to what's up. We can't say what yeah but i'm having to fill out this question thing. So what's the house for me is. I'm not very good at answering when my hobbies these are go ahead. What are my hobbies your hobbies are. I love to go hiking. What do you ask a whole list then. Put it hik- hiking being in yoga but that's it. I need more hobbies. I used to pay any time with my kids. That's a hobby yeah volunteering. There's life so you can still enjoy doing it. Volunteering at my kids orphanage you enjoy that health health and fitness hanging out with my friend bobby hobby because he's so cute rollerblade on hanging out i will. I'll let you actually do with my single friend. Bobby bobby boom single mingle instagram links below with all of you girls reading this now we talking. What's that for him. She can't say yet she was gonna. I'm gonna say this what she was going to do and he was going to talk about this thing. She's getting an award okay. I don't know what it is being being celebrated. You've gotten this award before yes. She's being celebrated and she wanted to talk about like hold on they may day. You make kick you out. I didn't know it wasn't like announced. The thing is like the people's influential people now. I didn't know it was a thing hit two boys and girls this. Oh yeah bombed bomb killers the beaches o- aw sea. I held this job for so long. It's not doesn't my hobbies. I guess i wondered if in the docu series day he ever got the writing and recording the song but it must be after like season three or four. What amy is that enough hobbies yeah no. I wish i was someone that was like gardening garden once once like six years ago for the garden once i really miss asia gardened i like i also i like to my one. One of my hobbies is starting hobbies. That's true too and quitting them. <hes> doctors find a twin growing inside a seventeen year old girl her twin. The twin twin is growing inside of the girl yep. <hes> they've found a girl she had severe stomach pain. She was also growing a lump in her stomach. Doctors realize was her malformed twin y seventeen that loan she she's not alive twin no. She's not a lot s. seventeen year old living inside that seven year old that's that's that's sad yeah crazy first time a girl that had been found with her twin how a a company has created the ultimate bet. It's a netflix and chill with a seventy inch built in screen. Oh my god screen comes up on the back of the bed. I was watching the news. I think you're gonna here in town on the national local news news and she was like hey he gets his. I guess she didn't realize what netflix and chill means really would you mean come over and hook up but she was like and you can adopted dog and he's great for like netflix and chill. Oh that's illegal read it on the national threatened. Do that and let's see good here. We've been we've been gone a bit. Thanks for listening to show meeting. They're going to be our boss. I'm coming. Hey raymond is right out there still so i'll come out there. I'm i'm done anyway. I gotta stop them are is like batman our boss i like that you might have the bluetooth earpiece like a conference call see he's gone like batman. Yeah you'd be walking down the halls and he'll be like. I think it's really important what's important to his ear. Not talking to you conference. I'm leaving work and he stayed on the street corner on the phone. I'm like dude. You have an off. I you put you you know how the answer can you hear me yeah. I think he can area you know what he enters too and they put the blue he can't hear you. They put the bluetooth sign in the sky so the batman in oh oh that's for me. I gotta go. I'll be right back right bad guys all right <hes>. We're gone amy's podcast. I wouldn't get to the clips today but you should have been tastic when we had up today new one four things four things on it or things with amy brown but there's a pretty cool thing on their blow are my the author bianca this woman she put out a book called how to make your life not suck and the the bobo was good. They'll hydrocarbons get well. We did a whole q._a. With him. People submitted questions the last few weeks so i took their questions like you. The listener took that and then bobo address them. It's all about health and nutrients and supplements and stuff is real name adam adam bobo everyone everyone bobo if i could be a clown hong kong <hes> all right. I'm going to go have everybody here is thursday. Show hope you good. We're good see see later but by hey. I'm andy if you don't know me. It's probably because i'm not famous but i did start a men's grooming company called harry's. The idea for harry's came out of a frustrating experience. I had buying razor blades. Most brands were overpriced over designed and out of touch at harry's. Our approach is simple. Here's our secret we remake sharp durable blades and sell them on prices for as low as two dollars each. We care about quality so much that we do some crazy things like by a world class german blade factory obsessing assing over every detail means. We're confident offering one hundred percent quality. Guarantee millions of guys have already made the switch to harry's so thank you if you're one of them and if you're not we hope you give us a try with this special offer. Get a harry starter set with a five blade razor waited handle shave gel and travel cover offered just three bucks plus free shipping shipping just go to harrys dot com and enter four four four four at checkout. That's harrys dot com code four four four four enjoy. Your buddy miss the bombing cow transmitting erica aw a welcome to thursday show more studio morning a jessica in florida. You're on the bobby bones show jessica thanks for waking up and being part of the show a jessica ohio pretty good when you want to say <hes> i was actually calling in because i'm moved here about six months ago with my children and we were looking for a country station and come across the body done show one morning and every since then it's it's been a morning thing we can't start are without the bobby bones show. Yes i have a problem have a nine year world and a seven year old that are both autistic and they absolutely adore bobby bones and lunchbox and aims they asked every day even at in the evenings and on weekends listen to bobby bobby bobby lot on it now well. I'm always on iheartradio. That's right so it's amy. <hes> thank you very much. Thanks for the call. You guys wanted to early morning round of riddle me this. Oh oh yeah right here we go amy. Are you ready what goes up when the rain incomes down what goes up when the rain comes down riddle me this or got it evaporation incorrect. I'm sorry that is an umbrella. An umbrella goes up when the rain comes down how much have four legs soft in the middle hard all around. What am i have four legs soft in the middle hard all around. What am i often the middle and hard all around uh chair. It's a bad i'm sorry that's eddie. Yeah come on you. You can be the only one to get one. Come on your victory. I can be cracked. I can be made. I can be told i can be played. What am i. I can be cracked. I can be cracked. I can be made. I can be told i can be played. What am i if you get this. You win the early morning version of riddle me this. My first thing was an egg but they can't be played. I can be cracked. I can be made. I can be told can be played joke joke. That's correct. There's a winner wow. That's like one of those things. We're just came into my head. I live in what is good even crack jokes. You can tell a joke elliot how you are the the winter. Would you like to yell at me just to get us home all he does a ah good one but thanks man how you feel about that. Amy i mean pretty good except except for. I can't believe i didn't get umbrella that was we now let now when he says it like it makes you like oh. I know i welcome to the show. <hes> cody alan will be in today so that'd be fun. That'd be next hour cody allen from c._m._t. Good friend of mine and he's as good dude. We'll talk about how the country stars he gets to hang out with. We'll do jason dean rear view town now in the bobby bones show the bobby bowl show to our producer raymundo raimondo. Would you out of there in florida off the coast jacksonville. They're still searching for those two missing firefighters to run a fishing trip. They've been missing almost a week now. In california police stopped a potential shooting at a hotel cops arrested the hotel cook who'd stockpiled outguns and was planning an attack. Luckily they stopped him before he did finally near new orleans a five year old boy unknowingly broad drugs kindergarten. Luckily none of the kids took the drugs. The parents have been arrested back to your bones are. That's the news coming up. Amy thinks she was kind of the right but i think maybe she should have been put in jail for the next thing you talk about. Oh wow i think they should have put you in the big house to teach you a lesson okay. We'll talk about that coming up next bobby bobby bowl show what happened to you yesterday uh-huh so it was in the gas station parking lot and i was reversing out of spot in the parking lot and i hear like a honk and then and i look over and it's a police officer and i rolled my window thinking <hes> something wrong with my car or what and he said you might want to buckle up if you're going somewhere it has like i'm buckling up. I'm gonna call up. I promise i'm going to buckle up but i just put my car and i. I hadn't buckled up yet because i was still in. My parking spot sort of was the car moving. Yes it was in reverse. Not no i know but i was like oh no i was. I'm gonna buckle. Don't worry worry and he said you should club before that car. Even hits reverser drive sounds like yes sir good thing. He didn't ticket you right. I mean i guess i see could have been how lame if i would be telling a lie you ever look is a long tortuous lame. I said yes sir. I showed respect but then i and then i was kinda. Bummed stevenson wasn't with me because he would've loved that encounter and he would. It'd be like you're right. I always tell mom bomb. Karategi buckled. I was and we can't be on our phones driving here anymore. Can't even hold it in your hand and i was sitting in a lot yesterday. There was this guy next to me was texting away and i grabbed my phone. We're gonna take a picture of and then. I thought well i'm also breaking the law by taking a picture of him in the law so i didn't get it right. I was going to get <hes> and be like citizens. Arrest on instagram didn't do it and the list of states that were the most rude can't believe arkansas was number. Two on the list. Think new york was number. One that makes the city of new york city the state the whole state like up like upstate new york's awesome. They're super nice arkansas number. Two the friendliest date is minnesota minnesota in the tennessee's number two friendly and texas number four. Oh good so like arkansas. I don't even know what's wrong weird. I guess i gotta get back up when i'm about to run on this damn country music here. We go the bobby bones show on this day in the country today in nineteen ninety-seven that's what we'll talk about. Where were you in one thousand nine hundred eighty junior high school twenty two years ago. You were a junior in high school like going to say like that now on on this day in one thousand nine hundred seven kenny chesney lands first number one ever with she's got it off on the song was written by craig wiseman and drew womack. It was released as the first single from kennedy's nineteen ninety seven album. I will stand which was his fourth album by the way three albums know number. One's chesney had already really six singles for this song came out. None of them went number one. He came close. When you put out one i closed my eyes which went to number two but not number one and here is around aw kennydale has thirty number one songs sold over thirty million albums worldwide but it didn't come that easy to kenny you get put out six songs and none of them hit until i guess that's six one hit number two in the didn't get a number one song till after that and that's jesuit number one for the first time on this day in nineteen ninety-seven bounce national hollywood morgan number two thirty seven ski old dominion. We're on the t._v. Show song lan last night and chose one of the songs to record for themselves. It's called young here. It is congratulations suchet of dan shea and his wife hannah they announced. They're expecting another baby and it's a boy drake. White was hospitalized after a near collapse onstage during a show recently. He just revealed that he has debilitating brain condition called a._b._m. Is known since january of this year but hopes sharing now will help others a morgan number two. That's your skinny. It's time for the good news bad. There's this seventh grader named diesel. Oh he made fifteen thousand dollars selling livestock at the local fair cases. I wanna do something good with that fifteen thousand dollars and he donated all the hospital little how old they could seventh grade. That's crazy and his name's diesel diesel. That's also he's so piper a contributing factor and how cool this kid is yes. We go. What's see win it showing yeah. I'm doing livestock fifteen thousand dollars all to saint jude. That is what it's all about right there. That was telling me something good was show <music> coming up cody allen who may know from c._m._t. Or from the cody allen radio show is a friend of mine. He is what countries call about so <hes> he's going to be in studio. We'll even do a little draft with cody allen. We love drafts right and i'm gonna take part in this one on banned from the other later today but i'm hopping this because there's no point it'll get awarded cody allen coming the next gets him. Bobby bones found dead. This story comes those from houston texas as a man got pulled over driving a stolen car but he fled from police. They couldn't find him anywhere. They searched the vehicle found his driver's license sitting on the driver's seat. Wow i was not expecting that. They knew who he was right. Then and there finally footprints handsome woods no he left his driver's license seat yeah. They chased him but funny couldn't go back to the car. There's the driver's license they'll be able to find him really easy there. You have it. I'm lunchbox logs on your bonehead story today. In the montgomery county maryland courthouse there are thousands of pages of documents detailing the horrific murders of three innocent people to things from the early days of the investigation are clear no one knew for sure who committed the murders but some had a theory sorry about who engineered them soon as i heard the details. I knew my dad was involved right away. We know it was lawrence horn. I knew who else instantly assumes orange. Everybody knew that lawrence horn was responsible. Nobody even better but at the time of the murders lawrence horn was clear across the country watching tv in his los angeles home and he could prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. I'm jasmine morris from iheartradio and hit home media this this is hitman. Listen and subscribe at apple podcasts on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts bobby bones on the bobby bones show now cody allen. What's the first country song that you remember hearing as a kid. Let's see here. I grew up every morning my mom made breakfast and so i remember her playing country music every single morning and she would play and i remember dolly parton being one of those artists and i would say maybe islands in the stream dali and kenny when you hear this reminds me of childhood it does it also must be like the smell of like x. cooking and bacon sizzling in the kitchen. I know it sounds cheesy but it's true for me me because it's funny you mention the cooking those memories that come back with music john anderson swing into my grandmother and she adopt me for a while and raise me. I remember remember here john anderson swinging. That never really thought about it so much until now but i think that's the first country song that i had heard yeah. You know this one eddie. Oh yeah man is a swing. I remember i remember this one well to <hes>. What was her name a little charlotte charlotte charlotte eating chocolate pie talk this country concert ever <hes> yeah. I think it was the judds <hes> <hes>. I remember going to remember linda ronstadt yeah yeah. She was really a pop artist. Pop rock artists. I remember going to her concert. That was like i like arena show and my dad took me. He was a huge music fan. So <hes> i remember growing up in the house with lots of music playing all the time but i wouldn't say the judge at the state fair in south carolina. That was probably first country show. Do you have to deal. You're with because both of us. We have friends that are also artists and we know things about them and we can't really address it. Even though we would like to talk about like secret you ever have a secret and you're like. I can't say this about you and then eventually it comes out and you're like oh like what's the biggest secret you've had kind of had to about an artist. Yeah like what's the biggest city of had to keep like maybe well. I think we all know big. Secret was for the longest time. What about an artist <hes> yeah. I don't know that i've had <hes> one of those. I think that when i came out to keith urban was probably one of those moments that i'll never forget because you came out to keith urban. I did on camera. No oh okay it was after. I did an interview with him and you know again. He's a nice kind of world's super sweet. He always concerned about you and <hes> he he asks how you deal. You and i think i said something along the lines of like i've been struggling with a few things been working out if you think my life and <hes> and he said what do you mean that moment i had not planned to see a word to see him about being gay but he immediately. I decided i said i'm gay. I'm trying to figure out what to do with that and how to deal with how to evolve my life so i can you you know who i am. And what was that like for you to come out as gay in the country music landscape for me. I thought it was awesome and i was like dude. What like yeah. I'm here for you but like what was that like i guess pre coming out publicly and then post from from what i do no difference because because i didn't change any of the things that i you know any of the ways i interview any of the way they do. My shows nothing changed. Their people wouldn't know the difference but i <hes> i do think i changed since i became a lot more comfortable with myself. Stop second guessing things that i said <hes> when you go through life and you're thinking people think something about you and you know something something about yourself that they don't wanna let that vulnerability outs. You wanna like <hes> you want to not be ashamed of it anymore. I think i carry that around for a long time so getting to the point where i felt comfortable. Just letting that go you know rocks in my backpack. I for people like you get those rocks backpack. Life is easier you can you can carry on a lot lot the easiest so from that standpoint i think i- i got better were you worried that there would be some pushback yeah for sure. Oh my gosh i thought it would be sixty forty negative to positive and it was <hes> it was ten ninety. You know it was like yeah. I only got a little bit push-back and most people said really wonderful nice things so <hes> most people just want people to live their lives and be truly right like just think about how we i think we generally just want people to live their lives to be happy. You're not hurting kids or animals like rocket. Do your deal right yeah. I think that's absolutely true and i think people bond with you and you guys know this from doing. <hes> <hes> your show is that when they feel like you're a human you have emotions. There's a connection that happens and i think that one on one it becomes a lot easier when you let all the walls <hes> cody allen is here from c._m._t. Hang up one more segment sure all right. We're gonna come back with cody alan. I got a on ask you who in your phone. That's cool okay and then i wanna ask you about close. I will come back with cody. Allen bobby bobby on the bobby bone show now cody cody alan from c._m._t._s. here. You <hes> have to wear a lot of different clothes on t._v. Questions they give you a budget by your plan. No there's yeah they. They give me close so close then give me a budget. I someone buys clothes and says hey do you like this. Do you like that and then i just just pick out what i like and where that guy was. Probably i mean if you wanna get exact it's probably like it used to be thirty to thirty one right now. Gold judge me guys. Don't judge me judging. What are you bobby thirty eight twenty eight. Stop stop it <hes> yes so like a thirty one thirty. Maybe will you wear an outfit again. It's on tv no but i will in real life okay. Well you wear an outfit again. It was on instagram. Oh yes absolutely i just wouldn't i wouldn't i went to post it. There might be some distance between the post right. That's yeah that's fair. That's fair. How big's your closet. It's pretty big yeah yeah. There's a lot of stuff in there and it's divided into two closets. Why two tv close a normal close partners. Go tunnel close to so. You're both sharon closet gay dudes. We have like gotta have doesn't make sense to me. I do that your best country music impression. Do you have one of those. <hes> let's see here. You're probably probably luke bryan. Yeah i mean everybody's probably got luke bryan. This point don't own american. I i'm bobby is going to be on american idol going hollywood pretty good. What do you think katie does pretty good anyone. Who's yours luke. Look eric eric church too like hey cody okay don. I wanna hear your luke though now oh my luke is perfect. Peroxy bobby is the perfect guy for american idol because he's one americans a mentor perfect jayco into oh dude. It's gotta be right time in the morning and be like did so. I heard you guys on the radio. Dude like what's the deal dude like bashing. That's really good. That's also jake jake says. Does it also quoting <hes>. Who's the person you have on your phone <hes> keith probably i still can't believe i have his is number. It's weird you know i this whole thing is weird surreal to me most of the time because i don't feel like i'm just a normal guy. I literally drove. We have a clunker car and our family like i gave it to my my daughter. I she drove it and then my son drove it for a couple of years because i don't think teenagers should have like a you know a great car to begin with. You want them to have a clunker so i drove that today because my car in the shop. It's been the shop for about a month now so i the point is i don't take myself too seriously. Sleep and i don't think that i run a lot of pride. I just i know so. What was your question okay so having keith in my phone missile. Is i mean what is this life. I really feel that way less than you know. I'm big fan. I'm so grateful that you came in thank you. Thanks for having me for a while. You have great teeth thank you you have a great presence about you. You're very pleasant to be around your good dude. I think we've <hes> been working round and with each other about almost seven years now so you're the only one fistfight me to my face yet. Congratulations everything here and making all of this happened. We've watched it all and <hes> it's. It's an honor to be here so thank you. I don't know what this this guy is here. What is the m._c. hammer. I've seen this on your on the story yeah. I don't know what's up with. This listener gave me that and it was in a box. I didn't know as a collectors item worth a decent amount of money right and so i just ripped it out of the box like yours my toy. I'm going to play with hammered. Hammered time didn't know that that was the deal there but <hes> glad you thank you for coming um and of course that any any feeling right now. What song are you feeling right now. <hes> tough question to put you on the spot with i mean. Can you get any better than combs. Beer never broke my heart smash. <hes> and i love that song then we'll play it right now do because you're a way better radio than i am do. I don't know what that means but usually talk a better. I don't have a good speech pattern. I can't say words. I stumbled on. Everything stopped so if you were to set up the case set up. Let's look comes never broke my heart but do it like you're doing our show. Oh really okay so a number of my heart big huge number. One hit for luke combs right here on the bobby bones show. Hey yeah my heart alright. I hate to interrupt but real quick. I think you'll want to check in with a a couple of friends of mine alexa good morning good morning and allow me to welcome writer actor and comedian chelsea handler alexa. I'm just checking in with your morning meditation. Try this one. I am a channel for loving peaceful energy. Okay i am channel for loving peaceful energy interesting. What does that mean. No idea sounds nice though it put it on a coffee mug that's right checking in with chelsea. Handler and alexa is easier easier than it's ever been before. If you want to start your morning right it's as easy as talking. Just try saying alexa good morning. Alexa good morning and alexa and chelsea handler will take care of the rest. Oh one more thing before we go. If you want more chelsea handler who doesn't make sure to check out our podcast life the death of me on iheartradio <music> sammy's pile of stories so oh planters is now selling container of just the cheese powder. That's on top of their cheese. Balls planters cheese balls yeah. They're like the big old container owner of cheese balls like baltimore right. It's like the pringles top of the lid. It's like the last the town on those things so they discontinued cheese balls back in. I keep hitting the balls but really it's physi- on the cheese eh back in two thousand and six they discontinued those but brought him back last year and then discontinued them again so now they want to put out a container of the cheese he's powder but it's like as part of employees to talk about how they're going to bring back cheese balls for good. You can't buy the powder though but you can win it. You just go to ask mr peanut. That's who makes it tell them what food you wanna. Sprinkle the cheese dust on and you could win it. What is that one food. You look back and you're like hamuli. Eat that all the time because cheese balls calls for me all the time <unk> down any cheese balls in just watch wrestling yeah cheese balls and pork rinds i still i still still love him and every great once in a while because i love the gas station shop yeah i'll get pork rinds good stuff man. What's the one food you look back and go probably a little too much that komo marshmallows out of the bag because they were fat free thought i'm fat free so i mean in like junior high and high school well. I thought that that was okay and i just out of the bag of just eat marshmallows hooker that is just might as well straight fat and calories of all that sugar like mountain dew for me to istrict three liter a day at least a three day. I'll be like roof cares. The awesome stuff tastes awesome. I love the burned. The i told you the night i woke up and opened up a small aw kansas sprite my house because for my birthday which was in april one of my friends brought me all the ingredients to make my own shirley temples so she brought me there that ah the grenadine grenadine and the seven up and the cherries and i never had this don't drink much soda but i woke up craving hard and had like half of it and i was like oh that's the spot i got me hit and then you were good good eddie anything for you. I think all through high school it was pizza hawaiian punch and twix still the same every had yesterday. They were the chocolate and peanut butter bars. I i you know but they were at the school checkout and they were just in a clear plastic little bag and i don't even know whether they were kind of like star crunch but they were so good in those little debbie anything she made like in. My mom would just buy that socks day and she didn't even have to ask permission. What was my mom thinking. The education wasn't there it. How processed food was affecting us. That's right that was really the case. So why don't you blame it on your mom. It's okay and am type faster asser on your computer or your phone my computer because i can use both hands and i've been all my computer longer. I would imagine if you're fourteen. You're probably better on your phone yeah people under thirty five or at least twenty times more likely to say that they're better on their phone and then people in our wheelhouse and then especially people fifty five and up. It's all computer morgan number due to your twenty-five faster on your phone or computer computer you do work on your computer everyday both hands on the computer but again if you grew up in your sixteen and you really didn't spend it on a laptop and you're only on your phone yeah. I could see how you could fly. I can do both thumbs. <hes> that that there's gonna be some dumb carpal apple tunnel situations happening and text neck for these kids like four generations from now if the world's salim exists our environment or by just crapping on it <hes> if you're gonna walk on trump's in their neck because it's going to get passed down generation yeah. What else have you saw this on reddit. Bobby your favorite place to go just waiting to say that because you don't want to read it all the time. <hes> you know starting to go over there a little bit. You say how awesome it is awesome for anybody. There's it basically something for everyone on red and this is for me up possessive mother-in-law aw bought a new wedding band for her son because she didn't like the one that you know his fiancee and him had made for him and she says the ring is more his style so there's this whole the threat of people like freaking out that like he needs to get his mom out of his life. She's too much involved in like what what would you do. If you're the fiance. I think the mom needs a new role role for sure that being said she goes she came in. She was like here. I had you. This may does your wedding because this is more your style. Let me say this and not to stick up for the mother-in-law mother-in-law but more so that fiancee knows what she's getting yourself into that mother-in-law doesn't go crazy one day. She knows if she's marrying that do she's not do without her whole life so i don't think she's totally shocked by how she's acting as i'm sure people that act crazy are usually acting crazy before that one time not cool. I wouldn't like it would have to have a conversation crazy but she probably isn't surprised by it and also mother-in-law know your lane. You're not to buy your husband is your son is engaged marine their life yeah perfect. If you're listening know your lane no you're well. There's just an important thing to keep in mind of for all of us to think of our lanes and know them because 'cause sometimes we can act may. Maybe not just like this what she's doing. This can be out of our lane so sub tweet toward me. No you're not you're in your lane pretty much all my blinker on well. I like when you dabble in my lane. You helped me until you want to slap me. Thing is that it okay <hes> profile. If i ever wanted to slap you know exactly. When can you tell me. I don't know they've ever given off the vibe. They're on a slap. You thought about it. I don't mean physically uh-huh strangle me. Physically there you go. That's fine thank you. That was amy's pile of stores. Tell me something good. This teenage girl does something to raise money for charity that i've never heard of anyone doing before i mean i've done something similar but on a much much much much smaller scale but wanna tell you this. You're going to be like that's humanly possible and a teenage girl did it. We'll talk about that all those crazy details up next. Tell honey something good next on the bobby bones show. It's time for the good news. Angel more has been swimming for ten years and she recently challenged herself to finished her longest ever distance water swim so the sixteen year oh from california <hes> just completed the feat swimming twenty eight point five miles allow around manhattan new york and it was all for a good cause. She swam almost thirty miles. That's crazy using her nine. Hour swim also included the twenty bridges challenge where she passes under twenty bridges around manhattan. She raised fifty thousand dollars for the nonprofit offit children international which benefits kids and poverty. She said the most challenging part isn't the distance. It's the heat. Can you would think in water. That wouldn't be the case <music> but she's i swam a mile mile. That's crazy and i was like. I don't see how people will do this crazy heart. She's swim longer than marathon. Earth on that's that's insane so congratulations to her good for her and good on her angel more. That's what tell me something. Good is all about that was was telling me something good latest from nashville hollywood morgan number two thirty seconds giddy old dominion were on the t._v. Show song land last night toes one of the songs to record themselves. It's called young paradis sir. I was watching old dominion story last night and it puts us up. I didn't get to see it last night but it's pretty cool song. I saw an pretty good. They put up some good songs on that. Show yeah what else you got over there. Congratulations touche dan shea and his wife hannah they announced. They're expecting another baby and it's a boy. Uh that's two boys rather maybe a boy yes yeah two boys <hes> they're all agreeing what else and then drake white was hospitalized after near collapse onstage during a show and he just revealed that he has a debilitating brain condition called av 'em and he's known since january january but he hopes sherry now is gonna help them others and he brought this up in the studio. Yesterday i like drake white dude. I don't know what avium is. Though did you research that at all. It's just said that his arteries in his brains is brain. Were all tangled up and that's kind of basically what it is brain brain and heart and spinal cord this and long are you just go down all the imported all right. We'll rooting for them. Morgan amateurs do number two s. Ask your buddy and math miss the bombing transmitting america bobby pretty good our because coming up in a minute we will get to our fantasy draft. The draft will be cereals and eddie has the first overall pick. I do now since i finish last. I don't get to play in this one but i was thinking about this last night because i'm into would i might go. Are you going to give them away now. It's i'm not even playing. I mean they don't give us ideas often do this anyway. Maybe go fruit loops. I but that's not what i'm going. I'm just saying pretty strong sure. Do you want to tip us off over. Pick <hes>. What are you going to go with. It's named after another kind of breakfast. Item think about that cinnamon cinnamon cinnamon toast crunch lyneham enroll. That's a good solid picked up those what you go back. I scared i'll tell you what i'm going with can't steal it from you. You actually get to go right onto that. Okay okay. We'll come back in a second and do that. Let's go over to amy now and get the investigative corny where we have to figure out the answer to the joke. Want a one joke streak. Not oh good we got last week though how to eat elephant one bite at a time one bite at a time that wasn't a joke. No i know one joke at a time to get a ten jokes tariq streak to my goal all right here. We go <music> morning courtney. What does a vegetable where to the beat. What's what does the vegetable where to the beach carrot top a crop in cup. Talk crow has got to be <hes> coach <hes> bikini of big <hes>. Is there something heaney. It's gotta be something like a bikini automating suit. Something like it's got the swimsuit what what vegetables swimsuit eggplant. Let's go down the vegetables corn horn celery carrot parrot carrot top broccoli. I care very underrated by the way the comedian great prompts <hes> the keene ooh. I don't anything about vegetables grow in the ground or in trees my point. I think crop tops because it's it's a crop. I mean that's just the only thing what does a vegetable wear to the beach the sand it says what is a vegetable so it's not going to be specific specific vegetables bones but it could be it really could be it could be a bronco bracco brocchini brocchini bikini the stem root stem. Oh now now now that the worst so close at one point crop tini. Tom mckean vic vic vic vic brussel sprouts <music> zucchini time well we wouldn't advisors polka okay does akini are his thing. It hit us with that raimondo rough morning. Courtney disgusted with myself amy what is it. What does the vegetable where to the beat whether the vegetable wear to the beach zucchini was it it probably bobby works bobby what's easy like brock and and i was stuck on crop talk to. I mean well next week next week right. We're not losers bracing herself to the biggest comeback history yeah that's right. <hes> jimmy allen best shot out brother. What's up just disappointed me too yeah john cameras now. I wanted to eat in the us so upset bobby bentley in arkansas bentley. Thanks for calling the show what's happening. Hey bobby. I was just wondering what you think. Alcohol tastes like you'd never even had a sit amanda. Just say it. I mean i really have never had a drink alcohol. I'd love to still feel like it's for me because i'll drink a lot. If you knew the show <hes> i i've never had a drink not because i don't want to or think that it'd be fun. I guess but you know i my mom was an addict and alcoholic and she passed winter forties. My biological father there was an alcoholic and he bailed and so i was like this is not for me that being said i bet it tastes like a unicorn or like skittles and strawberries and candy does that we can get something sweet aran islands. I can smell you can smell what stopped tastes like i smell beer. Ear sounds like it was like oh yeah gross never want to at all take that it doesn't taste like whiskey i agree the people love it but like i would do like a virgin divergence. <hes> version drinks <hes>. I i would do like a virgin pinochle. I don't know the difference or zima. All can imagine me rolling down with some zuma's return when i do some of those <hes> carbonated. What are you drink. I do white claw and then also the truly it's hard seltzer and would love it. I probably did that to bury type flavor so much flavor so i don't really know i i have no idea i'm not going to drink at least not now. Birth is coming up in april four. I'm i'm i'm so ready for your at comes. Here comes a little bit away. Maybe i go hard on that birthday. I really feel like you would tasted unique a lotta and it would instantly hit your bloodstream and you'd feel like tinguely. We don't do <hes> yeah. That's the deal bentley's that a good answer. I really don't know i can just smell things i can smell food to figure assume and what it tastes like but i think that you would like to take the taste of probably right <hes> yeah. Thanks for the call. If you're out there and you're not drinking or you stop drinking. Hold onto that like ain't no need for it i should i have so much fun with it. Thank you edited edited looking at me like i'm lying. That's good good for you. We're gonna come back and we're gonna get into our <hes> fantasy draft drafting cereals cereals raimondo ramona. You'll be on my spot today <hes> so because i'm not going to play i finished last in the last one so i'm gonna sit back as a commentator. I'm gonna do play by play and color commentary nice and <hes>. We'll see what you really think about our picks. Yeah definitely definitely do that. We'll draft cereals and then <hes> i did <hes> comedy lasts ascended award show. I'll just read you a whole act. Spoil it before. I did it last night. I'll tell you how it went and one joke that did not do well some that did pretty well some that killed field so it was all improve material but i'm okay being vulnerable insurance that you guys <hes> so we'll do that and are coming on sharona. I dance partner not going on dancing with the stars the season everybody's hit me up and i'm like a lot of talk to you. I can go talking about people on my show. It is tell them so. We'll come back and do that next. Show the right time for the fantasy draft for today and we'll be drafting our favorite cereals so three rounds. There are five teams drafting. The team with the best team of cereals will win after our listeners voted bobby. I'll be bones dot com. L let me encourage you again. You can't go off just the first pick because if that were the case the first person drafting would win every time so you gotta go with the full body of work because at first person in drafting has dropped the last and the second round so it's a week or second round so look at the full body of work pick the team that you think is the best and they get a point. We'll start. Ah the first pick of the draft today in the best serials is going to our video producer eddie eddie come on baby. You know what it is the best cereal in the lynn cinnamon toast crunch very strong. I love. I love the milk after it too. Oh that's the best part not the best part eddie oh but it is a really good cinnamon toast crunch morgan number two. You have the second pick of the draft. I'm going to go with breath. Lucky charm man. I mean not like it was going to be there at the end right right now because all grown scratch. I love lucky charms because again. It's a metaphor four from alive right but the reason why you don't enjoy them as much as because you eat them the way you do you go the needs for and then marshmallows at the again if you do get the marshmallows if you were to mix them all together you'd be like oh. This is perfect. Good pick number two solid pick. My gosh again ali. I really wanted that to be my first. One raymundo cereal draft your first round go ahead. You can't believe it's still here. Fruity pebbles elmont edinburgh one me too. That's first rounder he. I don't know that's first rounder but oh man you guys crazy. Amy oh my goodness. Oh my oh goodness okay. Oh golden grahams generics does golden grams awesome for the third round for that one well. I mean they took. We okay what bobby it's. It's you look at the whole. I know i know a bunch of fruit loops before going round so i don't even have fruit loops on my list. Oh no down goes most sorry. I wasn't into fruit loop. I know i know but i was in some golden grahams. I would crush them right now actually would you lunchbox. Is your first pick of the man. My first round pick was going to be fruity pebbles but they're gone and that's okay. I don't panic. I don't go oh golden grams. I go with something. That's not good. They're great. Oh points. That's funny now. Now now no so good. I was never like mom by means like box. Your your first pick of the second round. First pick of the second round man is a tough one. This is really hard. I'm going can crooks know where it was. I i didn't even think about captain crunch crunch berries on that. I'm doing crunch. He's not being defined by one of your tricks interest in all right amy back over to your second round pick in cereals. What's what's cereals left honey graham. Oh in <hes> granola low fat skim you. You are honey graham. Oh good oh good okay. Have you ever had them. She's gonna win anyway. No i'm not but these are good like i don't even know what you're talking about. Okay again is you're saying i thought they were just i. I didn't realize they were called. Honey grandma's those called ceos utah. That's why i all the os knows you. You love those okay. We're all confused by whatever honey graham oh's is but that's what the the full name does a good pick. I like goes. Oh so now i'm back in it with <music> out. You get all those all those member one time for your birthday. I just filled a suitcase suitcase full of oats. I love it was just a weird way to say. I'd like to take a step back and go. I think this is a good pick. You went weird with some full title contemplated middle name but i went to you all right all right so it. The official name is honey graham. Oh's i'll just we'll just call it what they are. They're ernst wants solid second. Pick raymundo back over to you cereal draft yeah you little kids. Don't know anything about these little mini pieces of french toast french toast crunch that cinnamon toast crunch eric version now. It's like when we look at franken berry yeah yeah and all these side kinds. It's basically brother of cinnamon toast. Crunch does exist okay so you can have that. Oh interesting. I mean amy raymundo. Just well well well. Golden grahams are solid and standby. I know he just said we're. You're in number two. I mean i think you're okay. I'm gonna go with tricks. Those are good silly. Rabbit tricks are for kids. Go ahead. Go ahead good. What do you think about the solid answer. She's winning. What did you say about somebody. Who was the best. I said are sport right now. <hes> eddie i mean you guys mentioned and you're not going back to it so i'm just gonna take a fruit loop solid set this one of the best serial <hes> mascots ever yeah yeah love fruit. Let's take three picks up one time. That's why i didn't take on my list golden grahams for the uh-huh golden gram. Don't kill golden guilt me you make fun of it two girls and one for me last tuesday golden golden okay yeah yeah <hes> in video games next week. She lives with golden teeth a video game golden goldeneye or favourite mass golden bear jack nicklaus. This is my favorite eddie. <hes> third pick go ahead third pick again here he goes ooh. I got a lot to choose from here to go <music>. Oh lots lots are going cookie chris because solid pick out of nowhere because again bones after you eat it melt chocolatey letty cookie crisp. Nobody gets cooking. Chris in the cop and the burglar tasted each other good solid pick. I'm winning the mortgage number two. I like eating candy so i like it. In cereal reese paths your teeth are gonna rot out from august uh-huh what she's doing here is. She's like sub tweet drafting her dentist guy that she is. She's rounding. All these really sugary cereals israel's to be like. I don't need you know the sugary. Cereals are the best one full sugarcubes in milk. Take that dentist as it receives rhesus. This doesn't get. They're already doing to <hes> pretty boring by telling you if you go get a bull right now. It's frigging good good life. Life is good. A rosy right right can't last in amy's just walking yourself off the plane. It's great that is so solid yeah. You did that from me. Y'all wrestle so then lived until you've met life. You're up okay well. Last liam. Go cocoa for cocoa. Puffs is a solid one little ones good yeah. It's prize it. It lasts long tricks cocoa puffs and the draft lunchbox final pick. Oh i got like three that i wanna take one is going to make me feel like an old man because it is either one very brandy. <hes> one is really good. It's i don't know if it's a spin off a fruit loops of hoops yeah no. That's what i used to get from the bottom line for the box. They were in the bag the bag and there's one that snap crackles and pops ops. You're answering lunchbox. I'm gonna go with apple jacks. That's a pretty solid one jacks. Are we have our teams here. We have eddie with cinnamon toast crunch fruit loops and cookie chris paul is that's a super bowl team right there. That's super bowl. We we have morgan number two with lucky charms tricks and reese's puffs l. Then i felt real good okay pretty good raymundo with fruity pebbles french toast crunch stepbrothers which are good by the way they're absolutely absolutely and life. Life demaim makes me like once a week to cancel out all the other ones <hes> amy has golden grams os and cocoa puffs not a bad team really not a bad team. Experts diverse actually and then lunchboxes frosted flakes captain crunch and apple jacks also saw the team. I would've taken honeycomb forgotten honeycomb solly when we used to fight over the back of the box. What about i would've taken like they had count chocula. I had that one solid alad and then there were his brothers like blueberry booby. Both of them franken berry anything else i i had crackle no brand. I had to felt like there was an old person. Thing honey bunches of oats good one. You've got the honey down and honey nut cheerios the loves hunting older than honeys curiouser classic. I think you guys drafting today. Thanks bones a lot of good teams on the board. Uh morgan number twos loading up right now and you can go to bobby bones dot com and the next twenty minutes or so and vote on the team that you think when the championship yes feel good amy feel good. I feel good ed revealing your hard time because you just mispronounce teams and well. No i mean i guess i gave the full name of os so now i know simplified. Just keep it what people know it just goes but now but now on the more you know golden. He's like i'm going with proctor and gambles owes what the name of you know. Sorry okay okay good good. I'm good now. I'm craving cereal. Yeah have oatmeal in my bag so what kind oh just regular old meal cinnamon nothing exciting. I can't eat that seventy more. There's no sugars. We have a aw. I always thought i would never be a serial person ever but yeah we dabble now but it is not anything on this list just like it haven't tried cinnamon toast crunch. Nope frosted mini. Wheats those are good forgot about that one. I also thought if somewhere pretty pebble someone would go cocoa pebbles pebbles chocolate oakland milk after your breakfast cereal cocoa puffs gives you that that's right all right. We'll come back back and we're back at the ron. Burgundy podcast season do baby carolina. Here is a pathological liar. Okay so what what does her brain look like. I normally would disagree with this but i made a pact with run earlier so y'all. Let's go with that. Brush your teeth. Whenever what else does it's on holidays and sometimes i forget. I'm not perfect smell of your breath. Bother you mean the smell of rare steak and aged whiskey no carolina data. That doesn't bother me. You're leading a little bit for the back of your shirt that means it was a good waxing. They got the entire hair follicle. If you say i i know so. How long has it been bleeding. It's been bleeding all night long axes to throw my sheets out. This is ron burger until next time. Don't use public restrooms. Listen to the ron burgundy podcasts on apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you find your podcasts bobby and let's go over and talk to debbie in virginia who was on a phone debbie. What's happening not much going to work call. We won't say <hes> first time caller. I'm just asking about your again. How does his exam for his ass off and he had a cherian as i. That's what they call it. There's apparently two eyelids with these dogs and so the bottom eyelid gets swollen very common in bulldogs didn't know this never had bulldog and it's kind of grown over the bottom part of the eye and they called a cherry 'cause like a big red not and so i'm freaking out. Obviously i'm like well. World's over our friends have bulldogs like hates common. Sometimes vets say let the other one go ahead and do because kind of genetic thing and if you get one one the other one usually grows to and they added cliff them off or there's something to it right and that's like him neutered and then we can wait and do it all at once so i took him to. The vet yesterday gave me some creams <hes> so i put them all on me yesterday. Now the dog also walked into that one <hes> i yeah put put some cream and like some stuff in his eye and if it doesn't go down then the that'll take care of it when he gets neutered but as long as it's not in his eyeball inspecting his vision. It's not really hurting them that much. If any so that happened he is still going to training next week. He's going to be away for or six days and so because i'm going to be gone for some of that week and so he's going to go s._m._e. Putting them in a doggy daycare senator training and so the train was like we're all good. We'll take care of it. Not a big deal so not the best news but not near as in the world. I thought it would be so. I appreciate that call debbie. Thank you that's good. We have a malamute husky and he's about one hundred and forty pounds of i know what you're going through with. The puppy stage because ours ate everything in sight so my dog won't stop chewing on not just shoes but like i think he's a he likes human. I think he likes to eat human yeah yeah like his favorite things to chew on and now as jaws are getting strong because he's starting to grow a little bit of the bulldog and he just shoot. He doesn't snap by like he's biting angrily. He just puts his mouth on your instructors. I hurt and so i tell them. I'm like hey didn't feel good. No understand it on your arm okay. I'm going to cover my whole body and hot sauce all right dog. It's it's going good at times frustrating but pretty good my hired someone to walk my dog in the middle middle of the night when he was super puppy because needed to get out every four hours or so because his bladder was so small <hes> now she comes at like eleven and he does you know six seven hours fine. It's almost time to stop it that dog walker and i'm there in the daytime so some people will get a dog word. Come by whether at work this mostly for me <hes> <hes> but everything's going pretty good on my instagram you see the room used to put him in his own little room. Put them in there. <hes> went home last night after the word show and open ended up and he's just chilling so he's grown up pretty good yeah in the morning we hang out and put him on the bed in the morning and just lays around. He's good so yeah. It's all it's all going all right appreciate that. <hes> let me go to heather in south carolina. Who's on the phone heather south carolina. Thank you for calling the bobby. Show what's going on the morning studio. It's morning. I just wanted to complement y'all. I really like your show. I just recently started listening to it <hes> and i just i'm really appreciative of your positive attitude in the morning. Bobby puts me in a good mood nine. I'm just thankful oh well. Thanks for listening huge call into <hes> you know we try to keep try to keep one hundred hundred which is on deposit. That's right. That's right. Sometimes that don't happen. Sometimes i wake up grumpy. What did you say to me this morning. Oh amy was positively this morning walking into the studio. It was early early it. She was like i really i'm rooting for you on this morning corny. I was like thanks friend then. We didn't name me but she was like. I really want you to get yeah did so. We didn't get it by the way we mr the suit. Tell them tell them the punchline next time i don't want it and she offered it offering it but i probably could throw a buck or so that way we can challenge the couple of texts here bobby david english or french bulldog english bulldog another one. We started cussing again. I have not i don't i think upset curse word and three years at this point i might though never know and i turned into gold goatee start cursing. You really have in. I've been watching for it yarmouth castle now. It doesn't pop in my head crazy. I don't communicate within myself and curse words. That's right. I mean that's strong. That's like i mean it's not like you didn't cuss for awhile in your life. Yeah i wanna go metalized. Thanks for all the tax you can text us text bobby. That's it's the phone. Number is two six two two nine job y so send your message to bobby and we'd love to have it up here on the show. We got a whole screen of texas just coming in appreciate that it's time for the good news so this guy bernie has been working at the stop and shop in new jersey for ten an years guess how old ninety eight years old let me guess. Oh sorry guest okay that's good though ninety nine years zolt while he was celebrating his ninety eighth birthday and his fellow employees at the stop and shop they like went all out he never takes breaks back to. She's kind of like hey bernie. You should take a break so anyway. They get him to take a break and then in walks a u._s._o. Show troupe because does he was in world war. He was in the air force and they performed like song and dance that were popular back in the day from when he was serving in the air force and they had had cake and all the things new rules when my day that's awesome total like just awesome surprise party for for and i i'm calling bernie about anita clarifies named vinny chattanooga choo. That's funny. They bernie the bagger right well. It's it's benny benny the bag he has. He's been the bag boy. That's a good story for them for hooking it up to win that one all right. That's what it's all about. That was telling me something good your buddy miss the bobby go transit america b- scientists antiseptic blood test that can predict whether you die in the next ten years or so with pretty much in eighty percent accuracy so i asked the question. Would you take it. I know i mean because you could die in a car accident and you're not gonna know that i wouldn't want to know that i wouldn't someone could tell me yeah but it's not going to be to tell you that that's a freak accident. I know it's a free guide things in your body that you're you're probably not going to be able to withstand. I know would you take doc test. They give you some more data. Scientists looked at more than forty four thousand people ranging from eighteen years old to one hundred and nine years. I got some really all folks to they. Identified fourteen biomarkers linked to immunity glucose control inflammation and they predict the risk of death up around ten years eighty three percent accuracy and so it's obviously a european we doing in america we we're not sharing it. What do you think okay fine you know. I guess i'll do it and hopes that maybe i can something will come out. I can help reverse it like if inflammations in issue. I'll just love the on all the anti inflammatory foods eileen the same way because if you can tell me what's wrong. I go work to fix it. It's going to therapy right. I can go in and you can tell me where where i'm i can't identify myself. Maybe what's blocking me from growing getting better. I think i would take it. Take no chance no chance because you know what's wrong well and then all day. I'm going to be sitting there going. Well doesn't matter what i do today. I'm dying in three years anyway like oh that'd be awful. So do you ever not go to the doctor. You don't wanna know what it is tough it out. But what if it's really really bad. I mean if i'm i can't believe what if it's really bad and you're just not going into. It's too early stages and you could have taken care of it. Well then that's on me. Yes yes <hes> around the room. Would you take i go. Yes yes <hes> lunchbox not eddie absolutely i would take it but i would do the tim mcgraw approach and live like you were dying. That's what i'm going to go skydiving in rocky mouth. I'm in l. full name you get on the number to know you wanna take it. I think it would change the way that i live so what's wrong with that. I just don't i think whatever supposed to happen is going to happen so i'm just gonna let it be that way. I mean do you ever go for a checkup or physical. Just going to get a blood test. Be what's but if you believe it's just going to happen is going to happen but you can. We do that well. I like those things are like normal like i can just go to doctor's appointment. Be okay or or not but i don't want to take a test in like make nick my through the room. It's just a blood test telling you what's coming up. Okay raimondo. What about you or three two two right now. I'm taking it all right forty two. We have a clear winner here in the election that we're going to go get checked in the world of work on extending our lives by being healthier okay. I mean kind of live that way anyway maybe with everybody's like i'm tara bottom get cancer. You have a lot of family too so it's like you. Just i do things naturally because of that but i may not everybody's body's different friend. We're talking about this blood test that you can take and we'll tell you if you die in the next ten years based on what your blood says about your health and i'm totally for because guys i think you could actually work against and beat it. You know me give me something. Tell me i can't do something. Even live like i'm gonna fight to the last minute so we get a lot of texts about this. Here's one. This is my husband's brother. Unexpectedly died two years ago from so called psoriasis at thirty seven. We came to find out there. My husband doing blood tests that they they have a weird mutation that makes them success. <hes> susceptible to cirrhosis and liver shoes had his brother gone to the dock taking test like this he could still be alive absolutely absolutely do the test or prolong your life. Also you could find out things about you that maybe you don't die. If you fix meaning if you take the test and it goes well. You're going to die in the next ten in years. If you don't fix this which could be totally fixable. That's why being it. That's why i'm jumping in the dunkin tate. Learn some stuff so we got a lot of calls about that again. All the health stuff that we're doing is to find out if we're gonna live or die. I will take the test so they wouldn't take the test but i think it's fascinating now. If you just told me you could tell me take my life. I don't want to know that's crazy. I don't wanna know right then. I'm gonna get and how data but if i can actually prolong it. You're you're gonna give me the option to be educated to prolong. I'm in all in especially like hearing that story of being what thirty seven thirty eight years old like gosh so much like that yeah. Let me say this. They announced the dancing with the stars cash yesterday and it came out that sharona my partner from last season is not returning to dance one stores <hes>. She's not the only one they also on. They didn't bring back artem on the guy side so it wasn't just a short thing. I can tell you that i reached out to her before they announce and i was like hey what's up. Who's your partner. I don't know yet l. and this is like two or three days before the announce and i was like oh of course she had just been on a trip came back and i was like oh let me know makes us who you get and so a few days before. She didn't know she was going to be on the show. I don't think i'm speaking at attorney or a home nine. <hes> so then she found out text me she was like oh. I didn't know like this crazy. I had no idea what and because she's he's been on. She's been on for eleven seasons twelve inch yeah so she wrote as i'm sure you've heard i will not be returning to at dancing a._b._c. The season <hes> unbelievably sad to be back the thirty four year old professional dancer sit on instagram. A lot of these sites now have coupled me with story going well. This is why controversy winner. I saw that which is not because why would artem not come back either. How do i would love it had everything to do with me. Don't think that was great it now because of her but we just broke the system so much they're having that's not the case. <hes> so sean is awesome and again. I talked talked to right before. I talked to a right after she was like you're not gonna believe it. I can't believe it so she's not. I don't really know why not sure. I have great relationships ships that everybody all that crew dancing with the stars obviously with sharia so i don't know what the deal is with her so i did see on instagram that she wrote that and i remember it'd be different if she was a part of the decision was like you know i. I'm just not going to do it this year but she was just as shocked. I talked to lauren elaine the last night for a long time because she's doing it. We put a dancing picture on my story story of us dancing. She has practicing yet. She's still in that phase of this is going to be self. It is but i was like hey you're gonna have some real issues of inadequacy with this. You're going to go and you're just not gonna be able to get going to go on the worst and it's going to bubble into your life and go. I'm just not good at anything and it's really gonna so like when that happens. Call me whatever time it is because i struggled from that. Why would just two or three days of doing eight nine hours a day like i couldn't get it and i was like i'm just sad uh-huh. I'm not smart enough to get what i see. People doing all around me. I was like that happens. Call me because wherever you are i was there plus i had never i never danced. She call all we were doing. The post show pre show yesterday. She called me right after she got on good morning america. This is a call from lauren elena yesterday. Have you started practicing dancing. No no practice yet in have you announced your partner. I haven't even met it is they. Were up there though today were they didn't tell us you are partners. You follow someone one of the pros on your instagram already. That's not your partner because i sang for him last year. I thought that too but you know all the conspiracy websites are saying that alan is your partner happy. I love you. I talked to her last night. She said i'm gonna have a good one but i don't know who it is. He still doesn't know so. I'm excited for the season plan on going from here. I saw that there was some drama because they put sean spicer on there. <hes> people upset about that. You know i probably would've stayed away from putting anyone political on there to a reasonable. Come on the show talking about politics certain places people go from politics places people. Don't this definitely isn't but he won't last long anyway physically. I don't think he can he can handle it <hes> so yeah. That's the deal pretty good cast pretty excited about that. I think shauna was. I didn't know she didn't know and then. I saw her post yesterday after she's already told me that she was kind kind of upset about not being able to go back. She may go back and another time. I don't know but yes there you go. Everybody's asking me about it so there. I said i didn't know she didn't know cool. And what are you going to do next. We can talk about some stuff. I can read you all my jokes from last night the yeah because i wanted to show and did jokes okay i can read you a mailbag segment about taking a wedding band off or i can't a friend is trying to set me up with somebody and she was like hey you should direct messages girl. I talk about that in. Just tell you that story. Okay you want the order. I want what you want next. You can pick don't hook up. I know that's a natural. He hasn't if he had already gone out with her or d._m. Dirt then yes but it's it's that you friend wants you to do it. Oh i d- andrew oh okay all right very clear on that i know could i hope you didn't pick it all right. We'll do that next show segment the damning to girl well well. This is what happened. One of my friends reached out said hey somebody should go out with that was like you know. The setup rarely works for me but i respect his friend and that's okay what's up. She goes well well. She so-and-so outta outta okay cool. She says moore instagram page. Go check it out and i was like all right what i do. How do you want us up. She goes well. Just send her a d. m. Yeah i'll tell her coming so this is like noon yesterday so i didn't want to send it to twelve or one and also the setups have rarely rarely if ever works for me. It's always last night after i did a._c._m. Honors staff they ward show. I just sent her message and so the bid. There's a pressure because hey there's one coming. It wasn't me direct messaging her out of nowhere but i still feel like i gotta say. I can't just be like hey how's it going. I was told to come to you. You say hi okay so like it's gotta be good. Tell us what you said. I don't know this is a safe spot anymore. I used to feel that we need trust tree. You say that and then you give your heart. I'll read it to you but don't make fun of me okay. You can make fun of me a little bit how you meant it well how you read it how you want her to embarrassed okay. I'm just going to be vulnerable for a second k. I sent this and you know with me. No one looks at my pictures and goes hubba hubba so i gotta have a little bit of humor when i send my notes or my direct messages or whatever i'm gonna humorous hard through text yeah but i'm pretty good at it all right like i know where i'm pretty strong and that's kind of where it is sometimes if not taken alright it can be detrimental to me trying to get anything going. Okay are already to you. Although people people can i get some <hes> reading vulnerable direct message music raimondo. Thank you very much all right. Let me scroll okay so i go over to a page and you hit send message. This is so stupid on you. If i just want to read it maybe i thought it was funny but i've already ready walked it. Just stop talking about it and read it. I said hey girl my friend so and so said you were cool and she feels a moderately. Oh man i even missed the joke. I got it right. I got it right is what it is but it's so hard and i ran back last night. 'cause i never go back and check and i was like i not. I didn't get a response by the way if you want to know that this spoiler this last night to morning a senate at eight o'clock last night i i said hey girl. I'd say girl her name. Hey name my friend. Blank said you were cool and she fills. I'm moderately low room temperature cool concern. She suggests joe joe. I realize it too and i was like whatever live and learn and no response but here's it's funny. Though it's cute i said my friend so and so said you were cool. Got it and she feels. I'm moderately below room. Temperature says she says sorry job. I'm supposed to get it like cool as moderately below who'll get your cool too but not all the way just moderately blood temperature. Whatever can't win them. All <hes> raimondo way think about that. He just can't go the joke. Just say i'm a single do no no. I always joke doodoo. You seem hot. Your friend and i liked what i saw. No i know no a different approach is better than both of those morgan number two. What you think about that. I liked it. I would laugh if somebody's sitting at. Did it take me a minute. It was a little bit over for for a joke. Maybe on that first line but i still i think it's good. I mean you're only really other. Other option is just be like hey like my friend wanted us wanted us to me and here i am kind of thing like simple under the since we haven't got a response you might want to apply like the joke is unexplained. The toll never insult some offer not getting joke or jokes bad. They don't get it. They don't like okay. That's my fault. I live with it. That's right. Give me a music tirade against funny. I just wasn't very comfortable with it so i stumbled on. It sounds like hey grab a._m. My friend girl's name said you were cool and she feels. I'm moderately below room temperature so she says it's not about how you're saying it like so so so i'm her reading it. I got a message from bobby. Oh hey girl so and so said that i should text you. She said you're cool. I'm i'm moderately her to to room temperature room to oh cool. Oh oh yeah she's not reading it like with your delivery of. I'm moderately beloved do but boy one reading as a professional writer he's saying what do you think about that that message. I don't it gets bad. Nobody says it's bad. It's just not good no way we'll we'll. How would you change it. Oh revisionist move. We're going back. Diane's is twenty twenty. I would just go here. I am naked. You wanna take a look at this said. We should meet <hes> yes so that happened taken. I've gotten i've not got a response and we'll see what happens. We'll see read it. You don't know when you send it to someone on the first one. Oh i thought aged follow me okay so you don't know if they've seen it until that connection is there go ahead right. Bring me one through ten <hes> <music> <hes> but that seven solid. I'll take that it's not bad but it's not a ten out of the gate. I mean that's a four because that is a tough joke to get eddie. I say six. That's pretty funny but i mean you didn't end it with what she can respond to that. <hes> no i wrote how are you oh okay. Good the end and still not tell me that part. I'd say i read the whole thing. Oh shorts confused. I think we were all confused with that. But are we miss the how're you what if she comes about what if she totally gets you and she loves it and you say. How are you and her reply us right now. I'm feeling waterlo. We'll wait like she gives. You like another temperature. Joke a blanket ranking it. I give you an eight eight solid and she's single so this is the voice of the people the single voice of the people. I'll take it all right. Lou combs beautiful crazy like played this in instagram. Yeah here's a song. I'll doc you like it. Hit me back hi. I'm daniel shuffler. Join me on my new travel podcast cold everywhere. I've spent the majority majority of my life. Circling the globe i fed straight dunks in cairo for a day been tattooed in the back of a jewelry stone istanbul and i've joined a chef to seek out new sources of protein and the amazon. I wanna tell you how i travel and how you could come with me and i'll show you everywhere every every week. Over two seasons i will take you to different places across the globe chance a magical experiences and stories and include interviews from travel connoisseurs like the c._e._o. View of starbucks kevin johnson design a kelly whistler and the director of the smithsonian american art museum plus soon to be revealed. I haunt media stunts. Don's listening subscribe to everywhere and apple podcasts the iheartradio app or wherever you get your costs views last night hosted a._c._m. Honors host. I just went up for the first fifteen minutes hosting jokes. Give it a bunch of awards. I know she knew that <hes> so so i went up and then okay do some comedy. I was like all right. I'll do some comedy kind of kicked off the show. Did you wanna here's my jokes. Yes i'll just read them because it was in the <hes> on wednesday night is a winning that award show for the industry part of country music so i waited many awards to the players on records records like tar players is this rumours steel players also did venues and i did all the awards for promoters is just a real insight right and miranda was there by the way rental <unk> never left one of my jokes. She was sitting right in front of me. You watched her while she was dark but she was right there she. I don't think she ever smiled. Anyone of my jokes. Midland were funny. They were sitting out front like hekla me. A little bit enjoyed that that was fun. Ghoul they were sending up front. Maddie and tae was up. There and i felt like overawe pretty good. I can myself a solid be pretty good. I had a white all white suit on see that yeah all right here. We go and went with the joke that we picture on the show. Yesterday started this off and i'll tell you a couple of these. At least one of them didn't work that well. I'll tell you how they all went pretty. Good remembering all right here. We go everybody then music. Hey everybody's pretty cool being here at the thirteenth annual a._c._m. Honors thirteen years is a long time. That's older than mason ramsey and also believe it was thirteen years ago that chris stapleton last use a razor got got and i felt there were some listeners there and they'll have to extra hard because they heard it on the show and they were like we know that i love. I appreciate the support laughing situation. Somebody laps you get somebody else laughing. I've grown a lot since moved to nashville. I'm not always seen eye to eye with every artist. There's one artist in particular that's right. I'm looking at you tricia earwood. You never gave me credit freeze and my chicken recipe on your cooking show that one do that well yeah. They're kind of like the delivery liberty was little off if that was the one that really just they're just point the crowd and you'll doesn't matter no there were so many the big assume that everybody was there. That was the one that didn't do so hot. Miranda lambert's here lanes here kaley hammock is here as well as many many other awesome ladies and country music and speaking of the ladies and country music. I did create a national show to highlight them called the women of our country. I often get criticized over it. Some ask why don't start charta show called the men of iheart country that already exists is called the radio. I got a good one. <hes> billy joe shaver is here no he didn't it was bill. Jefferson honored. Yeah billie joe shavers being honored tonight. He's the real deal man. They don't make them like anymore. Did you know that he lost two fingers and a sawmill accident. Instill became a country star. Now i take that as an example of inspiration and perseverance like this morning for example. I got a hangnail so painful but you know what i didn't quit. I managed to push through and got ready in the limo. Pick me up and i got here. They don't make fighters gus anymore. Do they billy jo. I gotta go pop as a good one and uh he lost two fingers and if he was there i was gonna it'd be like just a joke billy. Joel billie joe and i was gonna have these two fingers down like his but he wasn't in the crowd and then i was gonna go don't shoot me in the face there and said that <hes> here's another one like billie joe. I'm a bit of a rebel myself. I got fined one million dollars by the f._c._c. which is still less than the amount of money spent on spray tans a year. I gotta go and then i was talking about some of the awards and i go through them like we're doing these awards for like some of the players even in this digital world it's great to know we're still honoring real musicians who have taken the time to hone their craft on the instruments that made country music unique fiddle banjo still guitar which we're hearing less and less it come to think govett much like those instruments. I haven't been touched or played with him very long time either inelegant. That's the best one yeah it's pretty good. Give myself a solid only one joke good of all the new stuff untested it was. It was good. People were like who knew you told jokes. I'm like i but i i tore all the time. Tell jokes for a living second living but it was good good to see everybody last night so that that was i. I did some more in between some of the awards at all white suit on and i kind of piggyback off the the spray jobs. It's all white on the outside. If you take it off chito they got a good true but midland was heckled me. The whole there were those do is a funny funny. Those three words like you saw bobby bobby bomb reading a message for people <hes> well. I i read my direct message to a girlfriend was like asian message. This girl and i was like okay. I direct message read the message on the air. Yeah and a lot of people are weighing in. Here's one hey bobby listening to your conversation conversation and how your d._m.'s over the past couple of years have been the main to the stands out for me is the era of desperation nervousness or lack of self confidence. Just be confident not your best look. That's who i am. Though that's the i am i am at this point in my life. I know exactly who i am and i sent a joke okay. You don't get the joke you can go back on the podcasts. We missed it joe then that's on me. I'm not gonna change you i am. I'm just never going to be the guy like baby. Let's go out with hollywood. That's never going to be me ever so i don't want to be something. I'm not represent something. I'm not an anxious little nervous will fidgety yeah all the time <hes> <hes> so but the lack of confidence is here in the studio and you in front of your friends not on the d._m.'s. The d._m._z. sounds pretty confident. You're telling the joke yeah long long. Did it take you to come up with that one second. I was just like this'll be good sent when i text or tweet i don't even look i'm reckless type host post so i'm getting a lot of messages about that but that's all right. That's all right. Let's go over to morgan number two with what do twenty five year olds care about mortgage yeah well. The a._m._a.'s are days away and missy elliott is being awarded the video vanguard award good and she's the first female rapper to receive. It was pretty cool. Remember we talked about what the reverse is here. We've been misled and now you know what that is right and you didn't know i didn't i and and what that is is just her reversing using flip it and reverse just just flipping literally reversing it pretty awesome so it back in the day. I was like blown. That's almost such a jam so the amaze coming up. What day do you know. It's monday august twenty six and it's only on m._t._v. all right there. You have it. Thank you morgan number two. That is what twenty five year olds <hes> here we go. Is it worth it. Let me work it up on my thing down flip in reverse it t- river dinner till piff nouad. Sometimes they wrote out which is i just put my thing down. Flip it in reverse it you own the mattila of into milk right united passenger was forced forced to sit and vomit covered seat. Did you see this is the first clip of this new story right here. I was told oh yeah. We can get a cleaning crew but you're going the reason why this flights delayed. There's gotta be some limitations. 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Hope you have a good day. Go over and follow the show at bobby bones show instagram amy what's going on today my friends it's coming in town so i'm super excited mariam picking her up from the airport so i'll like workout takeover much stuff. Try to get my work for tomorrow done so that we can pick her up and we can hang out with kissinger yeah yeah tomorrow. Be good vince gill's coming in tomorrow so that'd be fun dance parties so it's more show be good. Hey don't worry about porsche. Y'all stay home and we're like. Don't get sending out good fine. We can ah the breakfast. What do you have. I am interviewing the very last candidate for the executive producer job today. Wow wow you've already interviewed. Yes so one more today and i have a call. There's a cable ish network. It's cable network wants to do a show. Uh someone to call and see what that's about that look on my calendar not to my dog is a play date at i'd after that another dog i i like a double date now. 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Cody Alan: The Face of CMT talks about when he decided the time was right to come out as a gay man in country music.

Get Real -w- Caroline Hobby

1:08:03 hr | 1 year ago

Cody Alan: The Face of CMT talks about when he decided the time was right to come out as a gay man in country music.

"My name is danny shapiro and i'm the host family secrets a podcast about the secrets kept from us secrets. We keep from others and the secrets we keep from ourselves cbs. Family secrets is show where you can hear powerful stories of heartbreak healing and hope listen to season two family secrets on apple podcasts the iheartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts the laugh in just blow in what you guys this up so these amazing cody allen is in the house what what he is the face of c._m._t. Ho seemed he he does after midnight. Radio show at seem t- my podcast is usually fearless amazing incredible women but i do have exceptions in cody. Alan is one of those exceptions sion's because he is an incredible man that i am so inspired by so i have to feature him we talked about his journey to radio <hes> getting to nashville getting tea tea and he recently in the past couple of years came out gay and we talk all about that journey and how it has been so freeing and just the whole the whole whole experience of really living living authentically and owning who you are and the bravery it took to do that and how loving loving and accepting everyone has been in response to him coming out and it's such an incredible story. I'm so grateful that he trusted me to do this interview and yard we are going to be so inspired by cody on here is rewrite my theme song getting real. You hobby real get real. I love the breast imaging real. I mean like britney of me. Was that what people are thinking. We're going to like real real country podcast spears well. You're giving her a run for our money. Let's be let's be real about it. We are getting real here so i've had to be back with you. Cody you know you're one of my faves special place in my heart for you know you say that to everybody. He goes everybody that everybody loves and so of course you're gonna. You're just trying to give me compliments and i'm sitting next to you but we've been prince for longtime. Ever since you came here the first to see to do this podcast with me which by the way was in its infancy unintended and now. I got one in the belly anyway anyway. Whenever you were first doing this podcast it was like just starting and so now years later deceits growth and it's progress and your progress and growth not literally literally down there but i will say it's been so great to see your success and so when you call me this had to come back and talk again and because there's been some changes in your life that maybe you want to talk about that. I was like all about so glad you're here. Thank you for making a part of your broadcast podcast. You're you're so nice to come on my podcast. When it was in its infancy. I shouldn't have done it. You shouldn't have done it. You're too big for me. You were way too big for me. I was already swearing as a star. I know i should've i've never said yes to that but i did came palce. I know i lucky me. I enjoyed doing it because it was fun and i trusted you and and i still do so. Don't ask me anything weird okay. I'm not gonna say anything weird. Although once again you do the great breath. I ate salmon for lunch and i don't have a breath mint and but last awesome you always have great brett go. Is that part of your thank. You just don't ever want to have bad breath. I am conscious about it. I worry about it yeah. I do think about it so you do and that's why i've got some shirts and we've got some research thirds. Like what decade are we living in tax also from another decade. That's why why would tic tac gum now. They have gone a tangent here but it's pretty good it. Should you get sponsorship. Maybe i should keep going close by and i have that listerine lean spray stuff yeah. That's a little strong for me. I love that stuff though and then we made some for our show after midnight to promote it that we give to all the stars for the a._c._m. Awards boards and we give them a little spot. I'll give you one before you leave. Oh thank you yes my face on it. It's like a breath spray. Keeping everything's fresh foolish is the milestones. You have your two thousand episode of after midnight it's e._m._t. So you've been hosting a t for how many years ten victories ten years total oh and then yet two thousand after midnight which is the big show we do which is on lake two hundred radio stations and then yeah it's a lot and then we have a radio live which hosted for ten years which is in it's still going strong and then the twenty show on t._v. On the weekends so we're just busy always the and you have your podcast which you just had one hundred. Does i know let's plug that because i'm trying to get as big as get real with caroline hobbies already already big goose podcast so we were very proud of everybody all the coolest people. You just interviewed runway june. I saw i love those girls so happy for them. They're breaking through to me to all my gosh. Their new album blue roses came out which i wrote that song. Did you really yes kidding me now. Why hurt the personal story from the only home-cooked with the band voice so i didn't realize you had a hand in his gin and our friends forever. We did amazing race together. We were in a band stealing angels together so we were running buddies so i was kind of wrapping up music when runaway june was starting and so i still writing and so i was in some writing sessions with them so it's been fourteen years since there's been a girl group get into the top twenty. That's insane sane. It's terrible. It's just not a proud thing that we should be proud of that. They should be proud breakthrough but it is not a proud thing for country music. I kinda sad. I know that is kind of sad but you know what okay maybe they're changing. Maybe changing it and the tides are changing cody getting back to you for about this baby popping out at any moment during this podcast. It looks like it looks like it could happen. No i still got about two months left. Is they are less. It's a hot hot summer for you as the texas so we get the heat right yeah. I lived in texas for like ten years from texas from waco. Yeah i feel silica grew up in texas though because i started my twenties in texas and went to whatever thirty something in texas in dallas in dallas radio and all that radio but that was the first lake nick orlando might have been the you know large market i was in before that but dallas certainly was like the big leagues. You always know you wanted to get radio or do it from a very young age. It's very very sad my life as a kid because i used to pretend in my room that had like an imaginary radio station. That's not sad that's britain genius. You're already like visualizing your future but it made me we really dorky as a child and to the point where i had like cassette tapes that would take myself on adam mr microphone which may have told you about in podcast number one <hes> basically basically would take your voice you dial up the f._m. Receiver do you know what an f._m. Receivers folks anyway you dial up to eighty eight point seven and the microphone within project your voice wirelessly through the speakers and before karaoke machines that was the only way you get your voice over speakers which to me was very exciting and would also get this carolina caroline tampering easter microphone broadcast from the from the actual microphone itself twenty five feet so if you were in the driveway so you could go to the driveway whatever song i was playing in my room on mr microphone the car radio would pick up and i thought that i felt like i did do people come to your driveway. Who've won the you know what you are already putting out there what you wanted to be protecting so then flash forward you started. I started getting into radio jobs. You got orlando orlando. She i worked since i was in south carolina. The where i worked and then orlando was a big market and then dallas a chance with the salt lake city for a little while and then kim nashville so it's hard road to get into radio or was it easier easy for you. It was easy for me because i went to my local radio station when i was fifteen years old and i told him i would work for free okay and do whatever they needed me to do just to soak up the energy in the building and learn what the d._j.'s did and what other people have sales people and what their jobs because i just wanted to be part of it i just felt it was like an internship chapter totally and so i worked at summer between my freshman and sophomore year high school and eventually someone got sick on like a graveyard shift in they needed to fill in and who do they call county. That's right so i remember call coming in armor my mom where she was at when the phone rang i remember taking the call where i was standing next to my mom and dad's frigerator in their kitchen when i got the call. Can you fill in tonight and you're like yes i can't i was like oh oh my god. This is my big chance crazy so i filled in that. Did that lead to more permanent gig there. Yes let's like a weakened shift and eventually richly more shifts on the radio station that would be like the go-to guy for the weekday deejays when it wasn't in school of course because i was still going to school and then i did all my high school dances as well. It was like the only thing that made me kind of popular in high school was that i had that sort of radio. I was the radio d._j. How important is it to to put yourself out there like you did when you were working for free going to the radio station saying i'll do about like i feel like those that gruel grind rhind period is so crucial like what what do you think about that with anything in everything i think it is and a lot of people get people asking. <hes> kids are trying. Try to figure themselves out or maybe they're even college still trying to figure out what that major is or whatever and they want advise and i don't have a whole lot of fis but i will say that i think working harding wording grinding away at whatever it is that you want is the best way to do. It and i do think you have to have some connections. Eventually you had to impress people on the okay and so you have to have the goods you have to have but yeah you have to have the talent to begin with but so but working hard at whatever i think makes you better at it so even if your crappy at first i i still think you can work hard at it and get much better than you were. At the beginning ten thousand hours thing they talk about sometimes in books and i believe from outliers malcolm glad well that that is totally how it works. Is that you you grind away at you. Do get better. I agree and you just i just have to be willing to put in those hours with nothing happening for a while and then you get your break randomly because something happens like a fluke that no one is prepared for or and then you get a shot yeah totally yeah. I think that's been the case with me many many times but really has been of course of your career show over and over again. There's been you know you would call some people but say oh. It's just luck like you knew the right person or whatever okay yeah i get. You might have gotten lucky in may whatever connection you made but that person wouldn't have called you for the job unless they thought you could do the job exactly. That's where you know because you've been grinding improving. The luck meets to work or whatever that clever phrase people say is is this free cliche but the heart i worked lucky. I think so what's one of your moment's. What are a few of those moments obviously in high school when you got called in the graveyard shift on what's another moment where it just all lined up and you had put in the work and here comes an opportunity here. He's a really good example because i came here really just to radio. At first i didn't have any ass. I had aspirations of my head like the back of my mind l. Maybe this will lead to other stuff but had no promises no-one and said hey. You're coming here. Maybe we can also get you over here at the tv. I had no expectations that whatsoever. I was coming to hopefully a damn good job of up a great radio show when i got here and that was all it was promised what was your initial. After midnight. Yes who is <hes> radio live with his night show now <hes> yeah and and they came here for or that radio was that radio show and we built that from ground zero. There is really nothing radio. Yes we got to really design the studio and when i got here it was like a card table in like four microphones and they were so we had to like build. Everything from scratch was really fun but i will say that <hes> once i was in the building for a little bit and i didn't ask ask for. I didn't go to producers. I didn't say but i was willing whenever anyone came to me and said hey you wanna try this. I would always go yes so whenever they came to me and said well. You're not that ugly navy. You're very handsome cody. Maybe we could use you for this. Would you want to do this. And of course i'd be yes. I'll try. I definitely want to grow. I wanted to be better and i had the back of my mind like i said maybe i'd t._v.'s eventually. I will tell you that when i was a kid outside of being being a radio d._j. Wannabe i would like wanna be tv weatherman. I thought that was like i lather. I know i love the weather channel. I love it as a child. I would take cardboard pieces of cardboard and i would make weather maps my parents and give them the weather report across the country so i thought thought maybe one day that will be where all that leads so yeah. I was totally willing whenever you came to producers in the building. Hey what do you want to try something different. You would try this and see if you're good at it or not. We'll see we've listened they weren't they were they were suspected to trial and error fortunately for a workout as then then now for ten years. Have you been the like on mt twenty and all that i think hot twenty s maybe maybe six or seven years. I don't even know if it honestly has it's been a little bit of a blur and i don't mean that to be sound like i'm lost in this at all but to some degree it is a little blurry. I look back. Do you ever do do this. You look back on your phone like your camera roll and you go back to like pictures. You think you punch one. Oh that was two thousand sixteen. I have three years ago. I some of these photos feel like yesterday. All roles alright together. It's weird how you have that sense. I can even look back and this. Is this your first kid right so i know it sounds stupid but people and people say all the time like soak up every moment i i wish i'd taken more pictures of my kids when they were young. I'm gonna get teary eyed now. Oh my god i i know. Can you believe that i i feel so old but i will say looking back. I wish i'd had more kid pictures more baby pictures. Take fill up that camera roll because it flies if flies flies by and before you know what they're twenty one true but you have really beautiful children and i'm like you said they're on. They're on their way yeah just finding themselves doing their thing. Can you believe adult children later in the world now like discovering themselves. I honestly love but now because we can be friends we can hang. We can have adult conversations. There's no filter at all with us. Holy totally transparent on every level in. We're not afraid to talk about anything which i think is something i four longtime would never ever do with my kids. So you know you you you protect them. You protect yourself. Protect your word. You're very careful as a parent for a long time and so when they're adults you really we can let loose a little bit and i think knowing they can find their way to the cupboard and find the cereal and you don't have to worry about those little things anymore. <hes> it makes it makes it a whole lot easier and they're superfund not to have like adult kids. Yes though okay so like you said at the beginning when i talked to earlier a lot has changed in your life. Let's talk about that because i love so much that you are just living your honest life and that took a while to get here for you know so talk to me about this journey of how you've come into fully being you well. What do you want to start. I mean it started the beginning. Yeah i think this journey we started when i was a kid. I really felt like i was gay at an early age. I don't know what it was. I'm guessing eight nine somewhere in there. Were what is that. How does that feel. It just feels like you're not interested in girls yeah well. I i think at the beginning it was just sort of an attraction. You know in some way to male l. role models. Perhaps i mean i watched spiderman and thought you know he looked good in tight. I thought so. I think some with those things stuck with me like okay. I know i don't know what this is by. No i like that and and as you go to your teenage years and and you go through puberty you start feeling a little more and you realize who you are but you know in my it might that time my life and because it probably societal the things around me. I never felt like let loose or talk about it or even expressively any way and how does that feel to keep all that pent-up with feels crappy. I mean doesn't it. Yeah i mean it's just who you are but you can't say anything. I mean everyone has probably something they keep hidden. I think everyone's got some secrets. I think when you get a little bit older you start to let some of that out and you tell the people that need to know whatever it is that you might be ashamed of for whatever reason if you you know if you're following the path that i i think most people follow which is trying to live the best life you can <hes> so. I definitely as i got older. I realized like okay. I don't need to keep this inside anymore and and you figure out what to do with it in a sort of carrying a backpack full of bricks and i start unpacking it brick by brick telling people. I needed to know this about me. <music> started off by just telling close friends and family and like he will that you trusted but like. When did you have that moment where like i can't carry this this backpack backpack of bricks anymore. It's going to weigh me down. It was probably shortly. After i moved to nashville. I realized there was opportunities to be a personality to be on t._v. To be bigger in radio and i felt like i was pretending lot where you know i'm showing up. I'm smiling big big. I'm going through the motions of these great interviews with whoever stars here and yet they don't know who i am and i felt like that deal again. It doesn't feel good and you feel like you're not. You're being fake also with the audience who's watching. You're listening to you and that's so funny because you feel like you're always second guessing what you're going to say or. Is that the right thing to think or feel and <hes> that's no fun so <hes> as i as i started to realize i needed to get you know get over this. Get over these feelings like you said i started to tell people and started to be more open about it and that was freeing that felt good the more i did that because i realize okay people still a good person. I'm still a decent human. This oreos it make me any less and for years. I thought i was less than because of it. Why just because the society because i think we've come a long way. Particularly in the last you know whatever fifteen twenty years in in understanding <hes> people who are different in all walks of life be gay straight black white whatever <hes> we've realized like differences. This is don't hurt us. They don't make any worse actually make us better like realizing we're all different from different walks of life and come in different shades shapes and sizes is an all you know all of this all these differences we think we certainly had black and white view of the world like one way or the other and the truth is it's not hot and once you realize there's lots of shades of gray is when you realize the beauty that also is in that in that variants. Why do you think we're afraid of different test. Why do you think humans are of that. I don't know i i think it has something i mean i i can look at my own life and i don't remember you. Help me here but i think i think that sometimes our upbringing teaches us. I think religion teaches us. What do we think is going to happen with these differences like what do we think if we embrace sees differences is going to happen to us why scary. I wonder because that's why because i've always felt super open minded and i don't understand all the boxes fox's that people have to get put into. I think there's some comfort in lines drawing lines putting ourselves in a box. It makes us feel safe full safes. There's something about that because it's the i know we don't understand the other people as people different than us totally. Don't feel that way guess. Maybe it's scary yeah. When's the last time you met someone who was strikingly different than you. I mean i kind of feel like in entertainment industry. I meet people who are all over the places but i i think you and i are the same of this like once. We've been around all of his walks of lives like i love that to me that is fulfilling life to have all all different types of friends and people because it makes me grow it makes me learn it pushes me to like see different ways to live and it opens my mind in a way way that maybe i hadn't been exposed to yet so i like that people here at c. M. t. like our group learn a little team and they've embraced. Did you coming out you worried about that. Yeah i definitely was and then come back to your team because i don't wanna interrupt you know they were great and i told many people here before i announced to the world how being a face of country music because country music is still traditional. It is definitely making strides. I will say like like being open minded and stuff but it's still. I think that's only happened in the last few years. I'm here part of that part of that. I think whenever i came out i was i was scared because no one you know in the current format. I'd really done it. I know ty herndon winded shelly right definitely were trailblazers before but that had been years and i thought okay it's still two thousand seventeen at the time and <hes> you know. We don't have a alias bela seila. Even we don't have any artists who really speaks up. So what am i mean and what will happen to me. Will i be exiled. Did you thank you. I'll be what will the chief of the comments be on instagram. What will so you know. I thought it would be definitely. Thank you lose your job. I nine thought that okay because i felt secure here at c. m. t. t._v. They're a great company. Viacom is a very open in company and superior that totally love. It and i will say i thought more maybe it's going to be like a fifty fifty thing like i'll get fifty percent. Love fifty percent like haters who are trashing me. There are definitely people who are trashed but i gotta say it was like it was like ninety nine one. He was like ninety nine percent love and and <hes> yeah it was really really overwhelming and you know what helped was. <hes> great artists also speaking up on that day. I'll never forget carrie. Underwood turks bentley toby keith <hes> and basically so casey musk graves dan shea maddie and tae distant huge lists of people who spoke out on twitter or instagram darius rucker. I mean who didn't i have to say. A word is rally and every i think that helped the audience feel feel better to that. There was some we it's okay. Hey <hes> we love you anyway. You know this sort of attitude. Look i know not everybody agrees on this topic so he i always think even if you don't agree with me that's fine you. We can still find something to be embraced each other about be it music or beat some similarity. We have in other ways and i think people love it. When you're real. They love it when you're yourself and i think that's been appreciated by the audience even if again they don't see eye to and we don't see eye to eye on this topic <hes> we can there enough other things we have in common right to love each other even still and i think that's the i wish more people believe that in the world i mean we're in the middle of a political process right now of determining who's gonna be the next president and all division in the country and yet i feel like we you have so much more in common than people realize these i go to these festivals you do with your husband and otherwise and you realize like people love country music there. They're and they're from all different walks of life. Everybody's different all demographics. All have this love music. Yes and that's what brings us together at those moments that i think i've found some simplex his personal peace with that because i've realized like people with all of those festivals and say something about this topic topic and what have people told you you feel. I've told you you've like save their lives. I don't know about that. I know we've gotten <music>. I've gotten a lot not a day goes by. There's not something or certainly at first it was just so frequent that people would reach out and say thank you. I i've gay i love country music too <hes> and that to me meant a lot it was so sweet and wonderful and <hes> and it still does when people reach out and say hey. I'm still trying to figure out what to say to my parents or what to do with my life next but thank you for stepping up its. It's helped me talk to me. I met a girl last week harper gray who's a new artist had no idea was l._g._b._t._q. And she played the one a couple of our shows here for pride. It seemed and she was like hey i want you to know. I don't think that i could be uh out in lesbian if i hadn't seen what you did powerful right and i'm not tooting my own horn because i'm not a horn tutor you know this but what you're doing is saying you took a bold step and it's helping you know and if it does help people to hear my journey and other people than to share their journey that helps other people. That's it's scary for you to take that step. It's hard thing to do to come out especially. Look like we're saying on you being so immersing country music what's going to happen. Are you going to be exiled. It's not dot com. There's no one else who'd come out and years so you're like on your own and you have no idea what's going to happen the sphere but i think there's also like you know some some comfort in being real and <hes> and and being proud of who you are at the end of the day because i didn't ask for it. I did not ask for it <hes>. I didn't ask to be this way. I didn't there's nothing i did. I didn't choose it and i think people still need to hear that because a lot of people think that you did choose it at our that you did want to be gay and i just that's flat out wrong. It's not right and it's not easy to focus on easy. Why would you why it makes sense to me so yeah. My name is danny shapiro. I'm the host of family secrets. A podcast about the secrets kept from us secrets. It's we keep from others and the secrets we keep from ourselves. Family secret is more than just a podcast audio experience. 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Nobody even better but at the time of the murders orders lawrence horn was clear across the country watching tv in his los angeles home and he could prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. I'm jasmine in morris from iheartradio hit home media. This is hitman. Listen and subscribe at apple podcasts on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts oh my gosh and then now you host the festival tie every year love and acceptance of show the week of safe s. It's also maybe the fifth year he's done that and i was just. I'm honored to be a part of it. Is that that have a show is just specifically focused on that within the country music seem as biggest week of the year. I guess per for country music. What's cool is a met people who voted that sh- who go to that show who are. I thought it would be like all seem festival. They're showing up anyway for the big show at these he's on and maybe they're coming to ours for one night or whatever it turns out like so many people come to nashville just for that show yeah and that's so cool to me they just and so many of them a couples from all across all all over the country <hes> and world probably to a show up in our <hes> are are there because they want to show support. They want to say we love country too and we appreciate this level of love and acceptance. You're promoting so i think it's a beautiful thing african love that and it's cool. I interrupted you though you said your little team. When you first came out your team at mt <hes> you're talking about. I was talking about <hes> <hes> just that you were talking about circus kind of like you'd like people of different walks of life and how that makes you like better like seeing that and by the way when you grow up like i did and south carolina or other places if you're killing a red dirt road right now who's listening to this thinking you. You only see one thing one way of life. You don't realize there's other stuff out there and once you realize is kind of a bigger world and that everyone everyone's woods differences really do make better and not worse because you'll know that other side <hes> once you realize only seen one thing. It's like you kind of need to be that one thing thing if you're gonna sit in exactly and that's how i lived most of my life so <hes> it is interesting because martine here they make a little bit of fun sometimes that i love a circus. I love characters. I love to be a little bit different and brings something else to the table because i think makes the whole team better hurts. You know i look at everything that i do the shows their collaborations and i don't have all the answers. I'm not the funniest guy in the room but maybe you know maybe you've got something courier occurred or you know larne or ashley or you know and then heather the all these people together we create this. We've got an i got new guide and sunday. Who's <hes> yeah so we we have this amazing group of people but it is a little bit. It's like a circus act sometimes and bring all these different styles and ways of thinking together but that's what makes it awesome ideas pop that maybe so you wouldn't have if everyone was thinking the same way so that's what we do yeah. It's good county. That's amazing so now that you have come out and you're it's for two years now. What's your life well. I think there's been more like talked about the audience a little bit more comfort with who i am. I'm to the people i talked to on the radio or <hes>. You know interviews <hes>. I think there's a level even with artists of like i okay i get him now. There's a little more connection if you will human-like emotional connection which is awesome yeah so oh i did meet someone who's awesome as asif so handsome great in so we're engaged in some points yeah. Thanks so so it's at some point. We'll get hitched but we're just kinda enjoying the flow of everything right now and yeah so that's changed. What's changed changed. Have your kids handled it all. They've been really great. They were great from the beginning though like both my kids were fantastic and i <hes> i think that again again the generation now is a little bit different than even yours much younger than me and then of course mine so my daughter she even. I'm gonna know wink even going to be a thing by the time show i don't either. I mean i just i cannot wait to see how many barriers years have gone down. When she's you know my age. My kids understood that you know. It's like choosing your eye color or whatever you don't choose. It didn't my dad would make that up. I mean i would i yeah yeah there's no so they were really accepting right at at the beginning and they they and my ex wife all walk with me in the pride parades and every everything exit wife or so because we're like the best of friends we still are listen. My connection with her was such an emotional one. <hes> and i love her so it. That never went away now. She's got a boyfriend. I have fiance. We have these beautiful together that we raise in parent the other parent together still totally yeah. No she live in nashville. Do we go vacation together all of us are you kidding. We go to dinner all the time they come over the house. Most sundays and we'll hang out and play games. It's like that's totally see are just truly one big happy family. We are now. I won't say there weren't bumps to get here of course and there's still moments where okay we got to figure this out of that out but listen. That's life in general though that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what the situation everyone has something they're dealing with and you just have to deal with it and it's okay. It's okay you know. I love robin robin roberts from good morning america. She's awesome she. I've done a couple interviews with her and she's fantastic but she said in one of the things that really stuck with me years ago where she said make your mess your message. Wow we're all going through something realizing that even if you think it's messy and difficult that that can also be what becomes who you are in a good way and can lift other people up <hes> yes. I believe that and hers was i think at the time dealing with cancer and having difficulty surviving so realizing that her her mess at the time could become something that was a message of hope the people i think <hes> was powerful is spoke to me and to go back to what you were saying. We all have something. That's difficult that we're dealing with. Why do you think because i feel like it's sort of like can be split. Some people like like yourself are willing to get to a point with that difficult thing and then they're like. I'm going to face this and i'm going to embrace this and i'm not gonna let this control who i am but then there's also other people who would rather never face it in just hide from it. Why why do you think it is so important. And why do you think it is so hard for people to face that. What do you think people are scared will happen if they actually peek under the covers instead instead of just trying to push it down. This is where we get real lord getting ryoko. Isn't it fear i mean it must be just fear. I think it's fair and acceptance or fear of like fear of i think it is fair acceptance for the people around you who you think won't who think differently of you <hes> mhm <hes> your tribe will like reject you <hes>. There's a lot of that fear that i think exists with any one of those any one of those difficult situations. We're talking about. <hes> i think it probably comes down to that mostly <hes> right. I think it's fear too but then i also feel like i have been lucky enough to live through some fear moments myself and face them and then witness other people showing up and i've always seen that when you actually embrace awesome it is so beautiful like it's painful and i'm sure there's a lot of emotions that come with it and it can be a mess like robin. Roberts is saying like a big big fat mess for a while and you feel lost and out of control but then it's like the freedom that comes from releasing a a burden that you carry for so long is to me. It's just like once you've done that at least one time in your life and you've lived through it because like i feel like a lot of people i used to ask them up. Therapists and i was in therapy. I was like why 'cause i had finally like started. Facing some of my inner demons like i used to my biggest one is i've never felt worthy like i've always had self self worth issues like i never felt good enough until i always felt like just self worth issues and by the way i think almost everyone faces that to some level i agree but i didn't want anyone to know that and i have like certain trigger points that like i would try to avoid and like hide and finally when i like faced him and looked at it and talked about him. I was ah god. I feel so free. Why doesn't everyone like free themselves of their insecurities and she's like people would would rather die like they would rather die than don't have to like face these things i think that's right and i think also that <hes> sometimes your self esteem is not strong enough to take control of your life. That's a good point yeah. I mean i think oh you just don't feel like you have the right or the strength to take hold of whatever it is and like you said peek under the covers offers a stripped back peel off the layer and so you end up just living with it because you can't you're not strong enough to figure out another way and and <hes> no i. I think it's i think important to do that. Though i think you're happier when you do become you do get control of who you are what you are and where your life is going yeah because you just feel lighter. It's like you don't have to carry around the backpack again. I always bricks those bricks. They're just get rid of him because so much better. I know i know go up the hills of life whenever you got that backpack empty but truly late anyone listening it is the truth. It is so scary to take that plunge into like face at that thing is so scary but it is so important and that's how you truly become come on. You're meant to be on this earth because if we don't embrace who we are and our souls like who we truly feel like we are then. What are we even doing here. Living just this fake jake life for who who are we living at four what think so people would say oh. I'm living for god. I'm leaving it for god's now. This is where i personally feel this way and people well might get mad at me but god is the one who made us the way we are with the feelings that we have so how can god be mad at us. If we truly didn't choose i feel this way. That's why occurred around for a long time that i was doing this for god that i was going to do what i felt like. I needed to be for a higher power hour and eventually i did realize that point. You just made that. I didn't make this up and god i mean he did not make me into failure from the start either and so i had to get a little piece about that that i was still a good person i. I'm still a decent human. I can still be still be a christian and believe we still believe in god and whatever religion you want and still also be who you are. You're think there's <hes> there's a lot of confusion on that. <hes> i agree. I do agree and it's it's touchy subject because religion is a touchy subject acton all of that but i totally agree. I definitely think being who you were put on. This earth to be is probably the best way replace guide now. We're all gonna fall sure but if you still believe in god you have to believe and that we're all you know. We're not gonna be perfect. <hes> mm-hmm and i think you have to come to some sort of realization that there's a way to believe in both yes. I still believe in a higher power. I have confusion on exactly how and what that is exactly because there was no right. We have theories yeah. We have some experiences that teaches okay. I know good things happen. Why do good. I know there's a universal plan to some things that i do and i feel like there's good coming my way karma wise whenever i am reaching reaching out and doing good for other people but i think that you can still believe that and still be who you are. You don't have to sacrifice. You know you have to be a lesser person or thing that you're lesser than because god doesn't think that way a man. Can i get a hallelujah hallelujah. So is there anything that you still struggle with now that you are living your authentic life. I'm struggling with being a boring person sometimes result. Here's the deal though i do all these exciting things things and i know you see on instagram like everyone else's instagram by the way you see nothing but the best you're getting me on. Go kart today with dustin lynch. You got me last last week. Dunkin in a trash can ice bath. You know you're getting all these like incredible. Moments me with carrie underwood. You know all this fabulous stuff right up front. <hes> that seems like this glitzy glamorous life. The truth is caroline. When i'm home i'm going home. I'm probably watching that flicks tonight. I'm really boring. I may get like a <hes>. One of those box things meals meals. Those are awesome right. Yeah and you're so fit so they actually work. I mean i'm trying to do you like the the low carb like paleo ones mostly yeah. I like some carbs. I like some fries. I like some <unk> a burger yeah that stuff too but i try to you know stay fit you and you succeed but don't you feel like that is balance because if you're like having having okay think about this a lot of people go to job that is really grueling and draining and they may maybe don't love you know they spend so much of their time at this this job that is wearing them out so then when they get home. They're like okay. I want to re oh yeah or i want to go party or i want to be out. I wanna live my life because i have this job that takes my life that i don't love but you have a job that gives you life so you have to recharge at some point point and i've learned if started figure that out but i do think sometimes. I feel like i'm again. This is an insecurity here and we all have something that we're like. Oh am i supposed to be doing something else yeah. Do do you ever feel that way about something. You're gonna get left behind or like. I'm like no matter how like you were even telling my podcast grown so much but i'm like it's still not good enough. It's gonna get like i'm not doing enough. I'm not successful enough like i'm how how i'm going to be forgotten. I don't think i'm really good with politics. Sometimes in this town like nashville a little bit of a political scene very industry-driven. There's a lot of number one parties in fact act. If you wanted to you or i could go to a party every single night or showcase of a new artist every single night of our lives. I often feel like i'm not i don't. It's not that i don't want to be there. See the new music or whatever it's just. I want to spend my time doing that. I've got all this other stuff. I got to fit in and that's not as valuable to me and therefore my insecurity sinks in and says because you're not doing that you're not going to get people to you're not going to get on the side of those political people some of those industry people and i worry about that. Sometimes that's probably one thing i've dealt with since i've been here in nashville that i've never dealt with before because it's such a sort of <hes> small town down like small network tribe here and i don't always feel like i'm an insider in that tribe. I just feel like a guy who pops in in always nice to everybody. Everybody and i think people generally like me who meet me but love you yeah but i think for the most part of that is one of my if you're talking about struggle so i'm still kind of like. Should i be going out tonight. Should i be doing like seen job doing. Should i be seen tonight because i want people to connect. I do that to cody like i feel like i have in before i got pregnant. I was running myself ragged. Doing everything like almost anything arrogant invited to go to like networking keeping up with people people and i generally love people just like you so. It's not like it's not like it's all because i'm scared. I'm going to be left behind. I generally love people but it's also that fear ear of gosh like i might get left behind or forgotten. Forget about me yeah because there's always someone else coming up and happening or could there be something i might be able to because i have relationship with so and so that i might be able to get interview opportunity lead to something else that i don't even know about that. Maybe somebody else gets because i wasn't there to make that connection. Yes yes but you know. What can you worry about that. No you can't because if you look back on your life like yours how these random situations have appeared for you that you weren't aren't preparing for like even starting in high school with the night shift all that seemed he getting a shot. You know after doing a radio show for me. I look back on my my my opportunities that have come my way and i think they would have come whether or not i was hustling out there. I mean or not as long as i was doing my hustle that i felt like i was supposed to be doing 'cause like don't you feel a difference of what you're supposed to be doing. Versus what you feel. You need to be doing 'cause like i know like what i what feels right to me for my personal drive and career path and i know what i feel like i need to do and i know when i feel like if i would slack or not and i i can feel feel that but then there's this whole other section. It's like oh. I should do that because maybe that will. Help me here this or that but there's a difference. Do you feel that what i think what you're gonna feel a special when the baby comes is first of all your life will be fulfilled in a new way that you can't even understand right now. I know i experienced prince that when i became a father is that <hes> immediately there was a sense of boy. This is a lot of work but yet. This is the most fun i've had like. There's a sense of and that little being you know something to live four. It's bigger than you again. I think it's going to be no it sounds all so cliche these shea but i think it's really true and so <hes> and because of that i think it makes me make choices of the supposed twos is or the news and so i end up most the time just going with the need twos because look if i've only got a few hours i'm going to spin it. I need to spend that extra time with the people that mean the most my family or my partner or <hes> <hes> my mom you know any of these people that i think are more important than me going to another party yeah yeah so i you have to make that choice and ebi at relearned to be peace with that and not worry about the consequences because ultimately that's where your happiness is not so you don't ever go right. I'm just so you balance it out right moderation. Do you ever deal with the comparison game. Does that ever get to go. We got it gets to me too. I sometimes i'm great with it sometimes. I'm i'm like killing it like i'm like oh. I don't compare. I don't care like i got this. I'm not worried about anything. I'm like killing it and other times. I'm like crying. I'm like what am i doing like. Everyone else is like so much farther along and it's all like usually career base for me. I think that's true i. I've gotten so much better at that. Have have you gotten better. I should yes to that initial question but i think honestly i've stopped paying attention to that as i used to see i think it was younger and naive naive and i didn't have as much wisdom about the business and i didn't feel probably is confident because i was a better place at a great place as i am now <hes> <hes> and once you get to a point where you feel like you've accomplished something like you were at a peak of some kind <hes> at a peak but you know sort of one of those moments where it's like okay. I've made it now. What's next but yes. I've made it here like you felt great. You felt good about that. Moment that sense of accomplishment then you stop worrying <hes> about other things other people and the other way i got peace about it is realize realizing that it's apples and oranges what i deliver is going to be different than what so-and-so delivers yes and what i deliver because it's different because it is apples and oranges. I can feel good about this. Lane and staying in my lane is awesome my lane and their lane and go one hundred percent. Let me proud of that a person for whoever they are whatever they're doing in their lane but that's not my name. That's not what i want. Have you been able to flip that comparison. I mean jealousies terrible word because i know it's not real jealousy because you're happy form but like comparison for me. Sometimes it can come out as jealousy even though i'm happy for him. Have you been able to flip that though now living by that motto of staying in your lane like just knowing that like okay. I have carved out what i'm good at. I feel confident and myself and so i'm not going to worry like you've been able to flip it yeah totally. I think that's exactly what i'm saying. Is that yeah you learn to get good at your lane and feel good about where you are not worried about the others and often compare it a little bit to music and you know we're surrounded by that here so <hes> i don't know i'm guessing that will keith urban. He just one like entertainer of the year or whatever <hes> you know i think for both award show a._c._m.'s uh-huh zea mays but you know i would think the carrie underwood still has a sense of accomplishment this year say she may she may not have won but she still got at her path and it's still damn good yeah like ninety hung up on these tiny accolades like oh. Did i win this. Did i not did this person. Get this over me like no but i still had a freaking great year right and i've got a freaking great life right now so right you know what cody i think about all the time instead of getting hung up on like the ten percent of things that you don't have that you're looking around and you're like oh my gosh. This person has that that that nut and i don't have that but it's like look inward and be like what do i have. Wow i am so blessed but that is so easy to not. Do that and i catch myself doing that and i'm like carol. Oh you've got to turn that around you know so. How do you turn it around do you. Is it something you face inwardly into kind of. Go home to your husband about whatever or or do you just kind of like. Let it simmer in there and never express never get it out. I turned it around by doing exactly what we're talking about. I get i i get quiet and i really a lot of i write down like what my true goals are like what my true goals are and what i truly feel called to do on this earth and then i examined what i'm doing to reach those goals and if i'm on a path that is moving towards them and i feel like i'm doing everything that i can do or feel like is right for me to do to reach those goals and i'm like okay. You're just feeling insecure. That's unlike you're feeling insecure right now and i really will sit there and like the person that maybe we on like saw. That made me feel insecure. 'cause they're crushing it. I will like focus on them and becky sweet told me this ro phillips too and she she does this to like instead a set of like letting myself feel like oh. I'm envious of them or oh my gosh they're gonna do better than me. They're try to just focus on all all the great things about that person in why they're killing it and how it doesn't affect me and why i love them because how awesome that someone out there is like making a away for themselves and doing great and like you said before everyone has their own struggle so don't get lost caroline in like the fear that you're not going to get there like like just embrace everyone else getting their and then embrace myself on my journey to and you never know what's going through exactly you'd never know what behind the scenes as it may seem like the instagram perfect. This truth is behind that instagram with something where someone struggling to and so you just have to be happy for people where they are. We're happy for you know where you are build on that as much as you can. You know it goes back to the beginning. He's as we work. Hard figured out persevere inder. I just interviewed karly pearson. She was telling me that in the back in the day she was a little jealous kelsey ballerini because carly had gone through all of these just like she had a record deal that she lost it and she was the darling the no one car back and the typical it's brutal. It's a brutal world out there in the music industry sometimes and she had met calcium. It's like a girl's group. It kelsey was about to hit and she was like hot. New young thing harley said she was jealous. Ever in the beginning and then come to find out that became great friends carly was honest with kelsey was telling her own personal struggles kelsey ended up taking carly on tour and now then they were like great before carl had a record deal again or or anything and she was like it just such a now carlos like obviously she's killing it and one of the most amazing inclusive supportive females but she said it was such a moment because says you just realize that we're it's. It's not that you're really jealous is just that you don't have with that. Person has yet so you're just like an insecurity and i loved that she shared that because that's such a true feeling that so many of us go through and then you get past. It and you're like there's room for all of us and we're all in our journey. We actually can work together and support each other. It's about showing your vulnerabilities and yeah finding strength in each other <hes> trade. My partner taught me so much about that. <hes> he when he was fifteen was in a terrible car accident almost lost his life. <hes> was in a coma for several weeks. His parents had to decide what to do where they were going to keep them alive or not. Now all that stuff he was that duck on serious that's so so he was on life support so eventually obviously he got better and came out of his coma but in realized is i've got to live my life. It shake shake him up. Yeah big time you shook shook shook shook and and decided to you know live this life to the fullest and he embraces <hes> you know every single day every single moment. He's taught me that i really i feel like i i needed that. Whenever i met him that someone who could say hey it's okay number one to be this way and number two. Let's live this life. What are we waiting on. Let's fun person to be with and you know. I had someone come up to me the other day and said hey. I got to tell you this. I love you love trey. I love you guys together and but i gotta i gotta tell ya every time i see tree. I feel like he's having his best day ever he has. I feel that way too. He's smiling. He's always so much fun. He's so much fun and he's he's really made me a lot more fun to and i feel like it's made my life better so i think realizing that this this is the day that we have this is the moment and nothing nothing is given we are not promised anything absolutely and that we need to live with this life what a great perspective so he had so deeply blay ingrained in him that he just wakes up and truly is stoked for everyday. I mean listen. We feel like crap where he feels mostly hung hung over night before we live that life is worth it but it's true there are there's you know he's he's a smiley guy and i think that's very smiley smile so we <hes> i. I think that's an important thing to remember also in all this discussion that you know we are given just a small slice here and nothing is. We don't know what's next so. Let's let's enjoy what we have right now. How important failures what we think is a failure well. I think they're important to teach us appreciation number one for like you know whenever you fall short and i hate to be superficial but like if you don't get the nominee nomination we're talking about a moment ago or you're not the one who wins. I mean i know that's short sighted kind of failure but i think it makes you strive harder. I think it makes makes you better better and eventually when that success happens in whatever way <hes> outside of this bad analogy. I'm using <hes> that success is more. You're more grateful for it so i think failures are really important. I think they lead you off into the next thing to teach you what you want the most horror what you need to do better i totally agree and like you said their appreciation that it brings when you finally do get what you want. Oh my gosh i want to talk to you forever or almost an hour so i have a few more questions because it's not like you have other things to do. No i'm all good today. This is your time. Oh yes. I got this set aside. I love coming to see you. Thank you lusting yeah unless it's always great when i see you outside of the setting too. It's always awesome so you're so sweet. What is a successful life to you and not just like careerwise in general what is a successful life to you. Well you know i've gotten the chance of my life to check off. Almost everything could have dreamed of honestly so you've gone through your ba- what were some of the things on your bucket list well early on in my life. I wanted a family i want to you know i want to experience. Kids did feel like that's one thing. I needed to do with my life and so happy i did that. No regrets at all even even though i was facing challenges the time and things i was really questioning about my own sexuality. I wanted a family so i think that blessing is awesome and then career wise. They've got checked off those boxes. You know things. I never dreamed. I never dreamed that it'd be c._m._t. Of always a so. I'm just really thrilled over all those all all those things but i think going back to the question. It's really about balance to me like a successful. Life is about having not just one thing but the things that you want the most in your call <unk> that earlier like your call to sort of be things you feel like you're called to be and i feel like sometimes in my life. I was called to be a mormon missionary. We talked about that. The first podcast we talked about that mormon mission and parts of my life. I was called to be a dad other parts of my life. I felt like i was called to be radio or t._v. Guy or be a better interviewer or whatever it was. I feel like there have been various stages. <hes> and you know now that balance of having all that sort of against like a circus. It's like that that <hes> kaleidoscope of colors in your life of all different shades from different things you've done. I think that's i think that's a pretty good life. I think that's success at least for me so following. You're calling when you're feeling called and letting it even lead you to different chapters chapters of your life. Let's get too personal but did you feel like the mother. Thing was something you were called to do. I always felt like i wanted to be a mother but i have even really afraid of it for a long time like like i told you earlier. My biggest fear in life is like that. I'm not good enough that i'm not not worthy or that will be forgotten so i know it's true because it makes me cry and so that's why i told myself you know and so like for whatever reason i was scared like if i had a kid i will lose myself or that. I'm not going to be a good enough mother or that. Somehow i'm just not equipped to handle this very important role and so i feel like for the longest time i dislike was afraid of it. I was so afraid of it. Even though i knew i wanted to be a mother so badly i was just like i it was so terrifying to me over and how did she get to the point where it's like okay. I'm at peace with becoming another thing was a couple of things i think the first things were sort of like you said even though i still struggle with comparison and feeling left behind i've gotten so much better at that and i know that's a lie like i know that's not the truth anymore and i have achieved enough things in my life to where i feel validated like i'm like okay. Yes i still have a lot of things i want to accomplish but i feel very proud of what i've been able to do and accomplish the life of built so i think that that has given me some peace. There's like okay you <unk> set your mind to seven you did it so that was like that was freeing to me in that way and then also i hit thirty five and i was like i don't have any more time to be scared of this. You know it's like i've reached the end of my leading fear lead because here i am thirty five and you know there's a window of being being able to get pregnant and carry a baby and we struggled for like a year we struggle we had a miscarriage and chemical pregnancy and like honestly though as tough as that journey was it was so emotional and like really painful to miscarrying on that like emotionally painful <hes> it like you kind kind of how we talked about other things it gave me such an appreciation for the privilege to carry life and their privilege to get to be your mother and i opened my world up to all the struggles that so many women and men go through that can't become parents and that have lost and it's like i am. I'm sad that i had experience but i'm so grateful that i know the depth of all these feelings because it is so it's i'm so lucky that i get to have this experience and you know everyone's journeys different and whatever path is up ends up going down and god leads them on or whatever isn't it for them even if you can't have kids or whatever but it's just like. I'm glad that i know this deep feeling this deep appreciation. Will you'll be an amazing mother and i'm so happy for you. It'll be awesome. Thanks cody. I can't wait now. You've got no you were so close yeah yeah yeah. It's gonna be a little girl. Okay so rap every podcast leave your light <hes> so just dropped some hard info not that you haven't done it this whole time on and what you want people to know wow that's like a loaded last way to in the end because they can go anywhere. You wanted to go and it's just like some of your everything you've ever known about life and drop it on everyone well. I think that i tell kids this that every day. You should be accomplishing something. I think that's really important for just the human experience of being able to at the end of the day. No you did something and even better if you can do something good for other people and <hes> <hes> against that complement is sort of giving back. I think that's always he'd plus plus plus for that day but i think accomplishing something every day making yourself feel worthy in whatever way that accomplishment to me. Accomplishment means worthiness to something. It's almost equated in my little world. Maybe it's not for everybody but but i feel like i need to accomplish something every day to fill fulfilled. <hes> <hes> and i think that <hes> going back to what i said before like just living your living your best life. It's very oprah but i will say like living this day. Live this moment <hes> and enjoy those moments. I you know i don't go rushing rushing through it so fast. You can't take the time to join the happiness <hes> find joy in the journey. Whatever it is that you're doing and <hes> i've learned to do that and i'm learning to push the pause button little more often so i can kind of like stop and enjoy every seconds. <hes> thank you for giving me the chance to be part your pockets. This is awesome. Thank you for coming on my podcast and sharing your heart and soul of well being this bright light the world everything that you do euro so you're such such an amazing person and i am very lucky. It's great to know you and i can't wait to buy some clothes for the space. We know this girl was of gruel. Blow girl okay all right. I'm going shopping cody on. You're the best thing you join me. 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Addressing COVID-19 in resource-poor and fragile countries

The Brookings Cafeteria

53:46 min | 1 year ago

Addressing COVID-19 in resource-poor and fragile countries

"Welcome to the Brookings Cafeteria the podcast about ideas and the experts who have them. I'm Fred Jews. Responding to Corona Virus Individuals Society and governments is challenging enough in the United States and other developed countries with modern infrastructure in stable systems. But what happens? When a pandemic strikes poor and unstable countries that have few hospitals lack reliable electricity water and food supplies that don't have refrigeration and suffer from social and political violence. Took for these scenarios talk about policy solutions during the virus pandemic. I'm pleased to present a conversation between two experts whose work focuses on these and related problems. Vonda fell by. Brown is a senior fellow in foreign policy at Brookings and has deep experience in policy challenges that include urban violence elicit economies insurgency wildlife trafficking in more. Paul wise is a medical doctor and a senior fellow at the Freemen smugly Institute for International Studies at Stanford University where he is also a professor of pediatrics at Stanford Hospital in his work Dr Wise Bridges. The fields of child health policy and international security studies the special interest in the long-term indirect effects of war and the political and security dimensions of humanitarian health provision in areas of violent conflict. You can follow the Brookings. Podcast wreck on twitter at policy podcasts. Get information about and links to our shows including dollar in sense the Brookings Trade podcast the current and our. That's podcast and now here's Vonda background interview with Paul Wise Paul for much of your career. You have been working on the issues of health deliberate in particularly difficult places. Such as countries at war and much of your effort has really been at the intersection of delivering healthcare practically Childcare Public Policy International Security Studies and ward security. You and I wrote together some weeks ago. A piece on covert in slums reviewing what might have been in these places. What is it about marginalized aided? Us Little Petty Petty as war zones or plums prisons that post particular challenges to dealing with Kobe. And other pandemics thanks Fonda. There are profound technical challenges which in turn generate profound political challenges. Let me start with some technical challenges. The primary challenge is translating the CDC World Health Organization guidelines to respond to covert nineteen to the reality of some of the most crowded insecure and poorest places on earth. What are these general guidelines responding to cove nineteen? I is staying home. A kind of social isolation social distancing also to reduce the potential spread of the virus disinfecting surfaces and potential foam mites for mites being inanimate objects that could potentially spread the virus and hand washing which involves inanimate objects with the potential to spread the virus. Your hands to your face to others also monitoring symptoms of illness and then seeking care when you become really sick so those are the general guidelines that have been implemented in Europe in the United States to a large extent. So how do you do this? In intensely a poor densely populated urban semi urban parts of the world. Staying home number. One is extremely difficult to do. If people stay home they lose. Income and usually these households have no reserves. No buffers whatsoever. They also need to go out and purchase food on a pretty much daily basis. There's no refrigeration in many households and if they stay home with no income with inability to purchase food they can starve. Social distancing is also difficult. These urban areas are highly heterogeneous. So we need to be careful about making broad generalizations. Their origins can be different. Social ORGANIZATION COULD BE DIFFERENT. But basically we're talking about areas of high population density and low standards of housing and low standards of state services. It's difficult to socially distance if you're living in a one room to room house with large numbers of family members it's difficult to go to markets where crowding is not metered like it is at a costco or a trader. Joe's these days in the United States and social distancing is extremely difficult if not impossible in these areas washing some places have limited or no water supply to speak of and others will have communal water supplies where getting water mains the basic elimination of social distancing. Health Services may be limited. They exist at all. What do you do when people get very sick? When there's really no place to go. Those are the technical considerations that relate to what we would call the direct effects the direct effects being dealing with the risk of contagion and then the issues of inherent in getting sick where you have very limited cow capabilities. But they're also indirect effects that have to be addressed that covert nineteen has the ability to trigger a food crisis which is always hovering on the verge of food insecurity in these areas. Just look at the high rates of Child. Malnutrition and young child mortality. That exist in these places to know. Just how close these families? These communities these urban areas are hovering on the verge of starvation and the indirect effects of covert nineteen may in fact be as or more profound than the direct effects of the disease itself and therefore our ability to address these issues. The fundamental technical challenges depend on mounting responses to reduce the direct effects but also these term indirect effects. There also political challenges. Few things test the relationship between people and its government more than war and plague they primarily response to play this kind of infectious. Outbreak is quarantine or its derivatives salacious in social distancing staying at home. But what this requires is a massive behavior change on the part of whole populations of people and often this massive behavior change implies important material and social sacrifices. This is difficult to do at a community level at population level and at a societal level. This requires that a government commands profound technical and political legitimacy technical legitimacy in the sense of technical authority people must feel that expertise is legitimate. Must believe in the technical assessments and the technical guidance that is embraced and disseminated by the state in places where years of bad experiences or places where there have been places like the United States. Over the past few years attacks on expertise that can undermine the information authority in ways that undermine response to stay guidance undermined the state response to pandemic threat. If people don't believe the technical experts that are generating technical guidance then state capability to respond will be profoundly diminished is also the requirement for political legitimacy procedural legitimacy in the sense our leaders chosen by procedures that are felt to be legitimate? Democratic procedures tend to generate some level of procedural political legitimacy is also performance legitimacy. Where people really don't care. How these leaders were chosen. As long as they perform as long as they produced results that also can convey significant legitimacy but the concern here is when there is minimal or no technical or political legitimacy. The only alternative is coercion were population. Behavioral RESPONSE IS INATTENTIVE TO STATE GUIDANCE. Where legitimacy is week. There is a tendency depend on the threat or use of force and we see in pandemic response responsibility for managing an outbreak shifts from the Ministry of Health to the army. We saw this take place in the Abullah outbreak in West Africa. We see it in. Drc Abullah Response. And we've seen it to different extent in different places in the world response to in nineteen usually. There's a kind of hybrid approach in which both currencies political legitimacy and coercion are utilized at different times and in different places to control the outbreak. So my concern and the focus of our work is understanding the interactions between technical legitimacy political legitimacy the use of force in areas of weak governance. Where the State is actually viewed as inherently predatory where these interactions could become complex and diminish the ability to respond effectively to the threat of covert nineteen. Many of the issue spoke about the ad seeing in different ways whether it is excessive usurpation of powers we are seeing debits president Extraordinarily heavily militarized response whether it is leaders promoting bogus medication. Bogus treatments really stunning Coincidence Iran Khameini for example has been promoting the use of herbal medicines with Iran extraordinary covert outbreak and many of the herbal doctors are both additions. Have been promoting could example use of rose oil as a way to prevent and PUGH WOULD. Kovic in China the government has been encouraging the use. Oh bed file as so wait. promoting so-called traditional Chinese medicine. That lies behind so much of coaching and wildlife trafficking that indeed believes to be the origins of the pandemic bed by L. is so horrific substance in the first place because of the cruelty and provider. T it is extracted from bears. But it's also up too late. Bogus a dozen cure anything. Let alone cove it. And of course in the United States but then trump has suggested ingesting disinfectant way to prevent and treat Kobe to those are false disaster suggestions on policies that somebody are promoting nonetheless the reality of the to adopt social distancing the reality that because as the choice between starvation or going out into a place where they can get infected is in the reality for people neglecting countries total surprisingly they have found it extraordinarily difficult to comply and while be my seek appliance for one week. Two weeks three weeks this really becomes the period but many populations than start demanding to be. Let out. Stop violating the lockdowns. So that are some simple solutions. So at least goal civil remedies on his remedies such as the adoption of did it cash transfers. Which can be done without people? Having go to bank in many places in Africa for example many people use mobile transgress over. The phone started this way to pay bills. So governments could for example adult cash transfers mechanism to offset the economic hardships and to allow people to stay home in some countries even help attention faces like slums governments can afford example way fees for services electricity or Internet to allow the distribution of Information. Workman's governments work with companies rather than out in charges providing services to waive the I'm able to pay you talked about the like metering in markets that out on the coast to coast of Trade Jones but again that is a capacity to organize NGOs to organize social leaders younger people who can get infected but who face lesser risks of the severity of the busies. In helping to keep people apart at waterholes nonetheless the situation is challenging and beyond just Nah Also seeing its outbreaks really staking out in places like Ghanistan. Way is today about the one thousand seven hundred cases have been confirmed that tiny percentage of the likely actual number of infections because that is really no testing and the unofficial estimates on. The number is probably ten times higher in Africa. You just saw over the last week. Forty percent jumps and again those are just trumps of the numbers that we know that it's not being tested but the data in fact not presentation of the spread of the illness and yet bet is but steady mobilization in these places to suggest that people should not be asked comply looks globalization in Africa in Nigeria a country which has all the difficult conditions high-density. Oh people in Spacey's extreme poverty in lots places many forms of militancy across the country in a country that was just close to famine levels in the north for much of the past forty seven can very easily slip into ten condition once again as a result of Kobe so but in difficult situations where governments need to up their game. At least the minimum. They can do though. The minimum might be vastly inadequate nonetheless in stopping the spread nonetheless in the conversation so far we have been talking about what governments can now. Does the Motivation Wide Bureau? The slump species that in latch marginalized aided us but those are rule. Petty cities or urban is the state is not present. Or at least it's prison in any meaningful way. Provide what happens in those places? It's hard to the work that you have been doing in Guatemala. Thanks funder it's important to recognize that these communities while vulnerable are not passive. They have enormous strengths and as we address and as we consider the requirements of responded to covet nineteen in these areas. We recognize that. These communities are already mobilizing in their own ways to protect themselves that these communities have enormous strengths. Not just vulnerabilities. However the global efforts to respond to Cova have not facilitated taken advantage or supported these strengths this creativity that is being exhibited locally by local communities by local NGOs by local informal infrastructure. That has long been the primary mechanism by which these communities provide security and well-being to their people they have not generally relied on state services and in many places have developed structures to protect themselves from a predatory state so much of our work is building strong relationships and we have over many years with this creative capacity with these straits in local communities. Some of the things that are being implemented being discussed tested are things like task shifting protocols for Covert Nineteen task shifting has been in place many parts of the world where you're not gonNa have enough doctors and nurses so you train local people some without much education but train them to do specific health related tasks and these community health workers systems is tash shifting to an extremely successful and these systems have been extremely creative in constructing protocols systems approaches. That are extremely effective. That emerged from local knowledge local experience and to a certain extent local power and we are working hard with colleagues around the world at universities like Johns Hopkins the London School Hygiene Tropical Medicine. Ucsf UC system in California but more importantly with universities and local communities in Africa in Central America in South Asia to develop and disseminate these strategies from the ground up. One of the things that has emerged is what's been called radical shielding a kind of reverse isolation most times isolation involves separating. People are sex from the rest of the population. This is a reverse isolation where the most vulnerable people in a community are identified and they are isolated hopefully not emotionally isolated but physically isolated in terms of distance saying and use of masks and other kinds of approaches to protect the most vulnerable namely the elderly for people with chronic disease in these communities. This could take many forms and people are working hard to figure out the best ways to consider radical shielding reverse isolation as a means of protecting these communities. There are the components that are being put into place. The basically it's translating. Who CDC recommendations this technical guidance into the realities of these communities the material realities is a poor places crowded places in general but also the political realities where local infrastructure local capacity local organization. Local power are the essential components of building collective action. I was impressed by reading PORI. How Communities Yomata have organized many of these communities precisely exists in conditions of poverty. Minimal Healthcare highlander ability to placement by militant groups and expedience range of natural disasters such as flooding villas manmade disasters. And they have been really proactive in self-generated tank quote on team places for migrants that have been returning from highland. Middle East other parts of Asia with the communities feeding that they will bring with them but doing so in a humane way and in a way that's not groups when discriminating the migrants has been the case elsewhere including in US responses or in Mexico and also devising systems minimizing. Sucrose communities could easily. These communities have expedients and expedients. That is I could table and mode brutal in dealing with issues the Respond to mean have seen. Similar efforts absorbs organization in India. That has often been much darker. Where a lot of the community self organization in policing has in fact salted in yet another significant increase in foul ride Hindu brutality type of violence against Muslim communities and the facts that some of the sources of Kobe spread but mosques where people gather and watch numbers of people in the Wgn sextant and spread the disease on the Fed the propaganda where even the government of India its healthcare officials would be speaking about Muslims. In mosques be at using that kind of language that just facilitated attacks so not a nice side also community self organization and indeed capacity the community has for Soga nation is very much a function of its three existing strength how much the leadership has been decimated by war or crime. It's not surprising that criminal groups or organized crime rooks frequently. Target COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS. In the first place strike to eliminate them so the community loses the capacity to respond to coercion but it also means that the community wanted the capacity to respond to other shocks or even solve. Organiz for just coping with daily activities. Well these last comments triggered a question that I've been wondering about quite a bit over the last few weeks. Is that see many political scientists and others comparing the responses to Cova nineteen between democratic and autocratic regimes as the primary dichotomy of the political systems. And how they respond. However I've been more impressed by the divergence and response between populous leaders and others less dependent upon populous support. Why do you think that populists in such places as Brazelle the and the United States have all had such denial list impulses? What is it about a pandemic that tends to generate this kind of response so as you said not all of slums not all urban dense places? Same old populists our same President motive visited India. Being one of the big outliers nonetheless that in many Populus including Imran Khan Prime Minister in Pakistan and in fact this is the day in the Philippines fall into the mold that you suggested very strong efforts to deny dependent make exists that it is not just a fable of fantasy language. They would frequently use and then trying to avoid social distancing another measures for a long as possible but in the case of. Bolsonaro still today. He is in denial and rejecting the need for such approaches. I think that it stems from several sources. One is that all of the populace elected in the context of significant segments of populations believing that they have been economically underprivileged in. The day have slipped through the cracks of the previous system than the previous system. Did Not Take. Care of their basic needs and they all campaign promised to radically change the economic wellbeing of those groups whether this is unrest manual door Mexico who message was fighting against the Mafia power expression. He used against the both the Mexican people to bring economic well-being the forty fifty percent of Mexicans who live in poverty or whether this was both a narrow enbrel sale that will again promising to empower particular Booder Brazilians. So for them to adopt the social distancing means that is significant economic downturn is it has meant for the entire world and hence they have been loath to see economic effect that directly contradicts the campaign. So I think that's one. Element is the economic implications for them. The political implications of economic downturn for them are perhaps even more pronounced than for any politician or any government second. I would say that many Oakland campaigned precisely on the crime is that they will cure the country from the MELAS. They identified before by removing the country from the international system one way or another in check stink multilateral institutions rejecting elemental globalization's where the desist trump `isolation is on the immigrant use whether this is what is bouncing brexit in the UK so this strong isolationist element problem is the outside world at this note us has been very strong and so that is a tendency to recheck the twice that's coming from abroad and also coupled with what you talked about namely that all in somebody's promising to break the system throw away the system blow up the system seeing the previous system as fold and the detecting education and the checks institutions. Not Just National Alonso. Mystic ones Think experts and rejecting systematically rule of law and anyone who promotes room of law. So I would say that second. Strand is the rejection of knowledge the embrace of misinformation and lies the rejections of multilateral approaches the objection of learning from others rejecting others in the first place. And then I would say. Third Element is that they are copying each other before the condemning the populace have been watching each other and copying each other's responses on each other success in being elected very pronounced with both Directly making trump trump prophetic but he posted debris glowing terms through the territory and other dimensions. And so when the first populist started rejecting Kobe the following but then that are sort of interesting developments to that I would say that will happen both the populace knee business. Some extend the same thing that happened with covert and militant groups and criminal groups namely they all tried to appropriate it for the purposes so the tetteh classic example here. I rejecting Kobe using same languages. Both on Otto and Traum is fantasies drill. Still thinking that message in mid-march now the Philippines probably the worst hit country in Southeast Asia but video rapid spread minimal testing by expectations that probably tens of thousands hype and thousands have likely been infected. You bundled that this thing is minimal and so what does detector do while just last week? He essentially grabbed power. Something he has trying to do for the previous two years of his rule and now declared himself to have extraordinarily emergency powers that go way beyond what is arguably needed. In the response saw Kobe's though he is directly responsible for augmenting the spread of opening the Philippines became a mechanism for him to aggregate more power to essential launch assaults. Huda Tom in the country similarly in the United States than trump his US Kobe now to shutdown would migrate in the United States and moved to minimize or eliminate migration if he has his way not just infamous of undocumented workers but also in terms of illegal migration such as suspending and trying to minimize green card visa and other elements. And we're seeing the same thing among militant groups whether they are Islamists or whether they are far right groups in the United States however they checked coveted first late. Andrei say okay well. Kobe is not a tool to for example. In fact Jewish people. Those are some of the statements that have been simulating among far right groups in the US. Who encourage their members to get infected by Colbert and go to places with high concentration Jewish people to infect them Isis in Syria in Iraq? It's just woke OVID'S I lost punish men on the field is on the infidels. It's fine believers will be affected but late on has been suggesting. Well he is an opportunity to exploit this against the enemy against infidels the West whether it's people spreading the illness or whether it's encouraging attacks notice attacks while law enforcement forces are focused on other issues are preoccupied with Colbert whether this is encouraging just rebellion and misinformation to create distrust in beacon legitimacy mistake of the state now. They've been some interesting cases and those cases of criminal Luke's or militants even like the Taliban who in fact try to the new providers new providers in some ways filling a gap that would often be filled by international NGOs outside groups working in concert with local groups and capabilities to provide essential health services in areas of conflict or an infectious outbreaks areas in intense need the cove nineteen pandemic has put new kinds of pressures on international organizations slide. Msf Doctors Without Borders International. Rescue Committee Save the Children. International Medical Corps that have traditionally done very important work provided important services and very complex political environments however the travel bans funding restrictions and the needs in European home countries that require deployment of medical personnel in service to their own countries has altered in some ways deformed the traditional international humanitarian response. How do you see these governments in areas where the governments are not prominent non-state actors militias criminal organizations responding to this gap but also to any response in the coming months that Reinsert S- international organizations into supporting health and Humanitarian Services? In these areas. Well I want to stress legit just at old. What is different about? Condemning is the stress that this has created for the international humanitarian community because of pressure on personnel inability to travel and funding. And we are in the situation now where some one hundred thirty five million people are estimated to be on the cusp of Taman in places like Yemen see Nigeria that we spoke about Somalia really the only way that this will be addressed through international aid. Now what the militants and criminal groups can do is a chip on the margins and the most significant way they can permit the entry of governments and international medical teams and we have seen quite by selections the most interesting one has been the Taliban which has long opposed polio vaccination for example believing that this either away steadily Muslim women or the mechanisms of spying after US use doctor for identifying bin Laden so even as late this loss to lie September Day prohibited groups like MSF and others from operating in the territory they controlled precisely because they were concerned that the national humanitarian medical personnel spice for anything that height. There's better leaders that was changed with Coleridge where the Taliban has repeatedly Sunday the ball comes and provide protection to both Afghan health workers as well as the national health focus would. The Taliban did not say how Weber is that they will suspend fighting which fundamentally would be really the most important step toward catching the situation on the ground and toward allowing more effective response in fact the level of fighting in Afghanistan is going up almost daily. The Taliban is upping the spring offensive. It's been conducting five hundred six hundred tax weeks. Awesome killing between twenty and forty Personnel in this attack so very high relational tempo a lot of debts of attacks on its covert. Shabaab is another interesting case of goods. Shebab was enormously complicit in magnifying the twenty eleven salmon in Somalia because it will spending away the humanitarian community which was already under much fee at pressure as a result of the Obama administration insisting that any kind of aid that falls into the hands of Shabaab will be considered material support for Shabaab and the group the NGO can be held legally liable with very suit penalties. Ultimately the Obama Administration backed away from threatening the international money toddy and community with these comfortable Samantha Money Laundering Laws but that still delayed and to eight by weeks and significantly augmented a number of people who died Somalia so Shabaab abused be posturing the day will allow its though they have not cited as strongly invisibly as the Taliban but also sedate suspend fighting really along the groups around the world the only significant group that has a humanitarian cease fire for. Kobe is a group on Columbia. Cody Alan L. sped. We are seeing that. Violence Continues Despite Cohen but extend oftentimes groups can really meaningfully do the Taliban again has been unaccompanied to teach. People have wash hands. They have organized meetings in. Which they clear social distancing now. Ironically some of these videos shows that Ed. The meetings preach social distancing. They don't actually practice social distancing people on much closer than six feet power than Vons because we'll take their mask to speak but nonetheless. They have been saying the right messages. They have not been in denial of the situation. They've been also explaining to people that even Muslim people can be infected this as much as the newness of Kefir so they have taken those steps and to some extent they have been trying to hand out so sanitizers and some food which is also what Mexican criminal groups have bound will canape of Mexican criminal groups. The most vicious ones have been handing out bags containing food and soap but none of these groups have any capacity to provide any distinct any kind of treatment. So they will say Voodoo distancing when you become very ill than you need to go to the medical hospital run by the government or to the clinic or violence. Yo to be distant and it just shows that although they are sometimes you've been having better messages than some of the populist leaders in some cases not all that spoken about that actual technical capacities limited many groups excel in deliberate justice and delivering effective dispute resolution. Systems like the Taliban Mal Shabaab even groups like Fahd dissidents the previously in Columbia but they don't have medical expertise. They can build a clinic but they beat someone else Staus it. They can still come out Kobe very much strengthened and seen as more effective more carrying provided us more immediate providers than even the government and how much political capital militants and organized crime groups. Get Out of the response to Kobe. Bill Berry by many factors including what they're responsible with extra is it will berry by out. State X is an alternative provider if at all and it will also vary by how they can calibrate dead brutality Violence in the depression with delivering meaningful services but just like populists neither. Kobe is a tool to be utilized for the purposes. While in some my hope is that the funding for these international groups will come back and come back stronger than ever however my fear is that there will be new forms by which these groups exercise power and in response to Kovin and the destabilization of local structures power that what we may see is a requirement for international humanitarian groups to find alternative negotiating postures that afford access to populations in dire need but also negotiations to ensure the security of humanitarian personnel and facilities. My fear is that the impact of Kovic nineteen on these power relationships in the areas of greatest humanitarian requirements. We'll have shifted in ways that will place new obstacles in new burdens on humanitarian organizations in providing the critical services and compassion that these communities not only need but deserve second to last question which is the exceed when it comes however quickly or late isn't going to be the solution and how significant a solution is going to be in developing countries on dimension of Spread of Kobe than for other Infectious Diseases Highly Infectious Diseases. In developing countries and the inability to isolate sufficiently long enough is that of was the chance of infection and the starting of the Ben Mc order stopping with these epidemic. There will be much higher so we can see that sinks east for example in Bali but this has been really taking over the dramatically people rush out back to work because they have been starving or are closed having absolutely no reserves and the whole cycle starts over again so it seems to me that is at least possibility that in developing countries and marginalize aided us and among marginalized populations the infection will be living on longer and longer and then in places is then the but seeing the silver bullet out. There are technical concerns about the vaccine like will work corona viruses are complicated things and creating a vaccine for it may be complicated and understanding its impact on Human Health. May Be complicated. I'm not a vaccine expert. However I'm also worried about not so much the vaccine for covert nineteen as what happens when you disrupt they vaccination programs all around the world and people particularly kids start dying of Pertussis and some places polio and other diseases for which we have great vaccines and good strong vaccination programs that have been disrupted because of covert nineteen. The implication certainly for children may be more profound than for covert nineteen but I do worry. About the provision the equitable provision of whatever vaccine is shown to be effective power revels in scarcity. And when you have a scarce efficacious health intervention is when you will see unequal mechanisms of provision where the powerful and the wealthy of countries and people within these countries. I'm far more likely to get the vaccine in at least in the short run that all technical innovations in health all improvements in our medical capabilities are more likely to widen disparities than to reduce them. When they first come out. And that's because our delivery systems are socially stratified so they tend to privilege wealthier. More powerful populations than the disenfranchised and therefore my expectation unless we put in progressive policies in anticipation of the development of a vaccine. What you'll see is until towards provision to the wealthier and more powerful populations in the first several years that this capability is made available. My hope is that policies delivery systems can be strengthened in the areas of greatest need in areas that have traditionally been undeserved whether we will rise to that challenge globally whether our policies our global health policies the international organizations that are heavily involved with the provision of vaccines in areas of great need whether they will have the capability in a setting of global fear of cove it. I'm not sure but the challenge is profound an it is not too early to be addressing this challenge with intensity with energy and with compassion as we speak so with that. All what would you say? Abbas three most important policy takeaways for where we are right now a titular For developing countries marginalized spaces marginalized groups of people. While the first is the most urgent which is to create an implement strategies that are capable of protecting populations without strong health systems from nineteen in other words the places. We've been talking about require far more innovative and pragmatic preventive protections preventive strategies. And to be straight on this. I don't see a strong global effort mobilizing to do this. I say haphazard patchwork kinds of approaches and not the kind of strong collective action that will be required to develop together with these communities with their capabilities and extent infrastructure effective strategies to protect people living in migration campus on the medical side of the US Mexican border in rural areas of quantum Allah of areas clegg by chronic violent conflict or densely populated urban and semi urban areas controlled by criminal gangs. I just don't see this coming together in ways that will meet the needs second. I think we also need to provide far greater assistance in non traditional ways to the communities of greatest concern as you mentioned cash transfer and other types of support to address the indirect effects of covered nineteen in these places places that always hover on the edge of starvation always experience high rates of preventable illness. We need policies to be implemented that deal with the indirect effects and the third is to anticipate the development of new medical capabilities either effective treatments or vaccine to have the policies in place the financing in place the delivery structures in place to ensure equitable provision that all communities in need will be provided the new efficacious intervention based on need and not based on their claims to societal power. They'll points mentioned interesting ways but what I have been thinking about some of the fundamental policy takeaways from our conversation and I would say the first one is to realize that states with large marginal populations or marginal aided US constantly competing with other providers for much to say whether the day out criminal militant groups or even semi militant groups such as far right groups in the United States' militias in the United States that are mobilizing and that the state needs to realize that being a provider of law enforcement justice dispute solutions and services is fundamentally not about benevolence dog but survival in this competition in St thinking in this competition without enough to provide that in the context where state it's institutions bureaucracies are being challenged more than ever and are being questioned the utility in a way that we really haven't seen over many decades now. The second would be the wanted. You talk about compassion again. Believe that one of the important takeaway is for all of us. People but also for countries is that we cannot just neglect the developing country marginalized population. The Be Kendall chose toward the mosques For ourselves or for the wealthier even much as elected officials obviously fueled primarily responsibility. Just lay those who vote for them not for larger communities but in the end of the bay the ability to have the infection start again infection because of global travel because of necessary will travel because of other dimensions but requires that he responds is not just sells regarding that is also other regarding and finally something. That'd be no talk about in this show but it is on. The mental note. Gets too much attention into policy. Debate in general circles is the need to prevent or at least minimize the chances of another pandemic. Another panic will come in some ways. It will sluqi how long it took between science and covert and it looks like it's Harrison being signed more than it could have been but the issue genetic diseases that spread from animals people is present and its intimately intertwined with dramatic of takes wildlife's for human consumption for pets for issues such traditional medicine. Vr vacuuming global habitat of animals at the raid is unprecedented thousand times greater than historic averages extension so much soda. Vr facing but six human-made extinction so much better regulation also wildlife trade this crucial element for preventing future and they makes but so is much better habitat conservation we really want to minimize tuitions where a human has come in contact while animals to prevent emergence of illnesses such a aids such as Bowland SARS of course now covert all of this has to do with far more intense contact between humans and preserving habitats preserving forest minimizing destruction of natural spaces heaping intact natural places as as possible is really the big challenge not just for conservation but even for health community and increasingly for basic economic of countries. Thank you very much for joining me and for the stimulating conversation. Thank you Vonda. Always a pleasure The Brookings Cafeteria podcast is the product of an amazing team of colleagues. Starting with audio engineer. Gaston Roberto and producer Chris Mckenna Bill Finance Director of the Brookings Institution Press. Does the book interviews and the set Baylor and Erica PLA and provide design and web support? Finally my thanks to Camillo remember as and Emily Horne for their guidance and support the Brookings Cafeteria. Is You by the Brookings podcast network which also produces dollar and cents the current events podcasts. Email your questions and comments to me at BCP at Brookings Edu if you have a question for a scholar include an audio file. And I'll play it in answer on the air. Follow us on twitter at two policy. Podcasts you can listen to the Brookings Cafeteria and all the usual places visit US online at Brookings Dot. Edu until next time. I'm Fred Do.

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Bobby's Dance Partner Stops By + Amy Gets Approached To Do Sexy Photoshoot + Rachel Wammack In Studio

The Bobby Bones Show

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Bobby's Dance Partner Stops By + Amy Gets Approached To Do Sexy Photoshoot + Rachel Wammack In Studio

"There are a lot of games out there a lot of apps out there, but there's only one best fiends. If you're like me, you're tired of the same elapse on your phone. You need to play this head puzzle game best. Fiends. There's an infinite amount of challenging puzzles and thousands of levels of play, so you'll never get bored trust me. Once you start, you'll be playing every chance you get Morgan number two likes to play before the show starts download best fiends for free at the app store or Google play today. That's friends without the our best beans. I do believe you'll be like the others and tweet me and go out of play it, your buddy miss the Bob. America. Right. Good morning. We're doing our show from Las Vegas this morning because tonight is the first night of the radio music festival. And so everybody's here in Vegas. More studio. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of things. First of all, I mean, what are you wearing tonight? I already music festival sort of like it's a two piece like pajama set a while looks like set. It does a looks like when I look in the mirror I'm like, I'm wearing pajamas basically, but apparently it's really cool looking. It's kind of got us show your stomach. Yeah, so, but it's got a jacket and pants that are kind of like MC hammer ish. So you want to MC hammer pajamas. So my health is really amazing right now, but apparently it's like super cool. And I just kind of, you know, trust my friend that you're talking about because you know, I don't really have great Sal, watch box where you are to be in jeans and a button up shirt with some nice shoes, and the genes are wash jeans. I washed one time last year in two months. You're good genes. Good genes that I wash them recently and they smell clean. What about you. Oh, I've got this pajama set. Matching Jimmy's. What are you gonna say about me? Oh, I think I think I saw what you're wearing. Just some great pants and a t shirt tucked in. I may wear jacket over the top of it or not. Nothing. I've lost so much weight from the TV show down. Don't thinks fit anymore. I did my pant size and now assembled twenty twenty nine hundred zero. Yeah. Oh my I just I had to get close. I know. I know the last time you think you were a twenty nine thirty ten. Show threes. It's producer Raymundo in Maryland of female shooter opened fire at a Rite, Aid warehouse, killing three and injuring four others. They said she wanted to pick a fight where she worked such sad news in California. They're cracking down on plastic straws at restaurants, starting in a couple of months. You're going to have to specifically ask for a straw in California. You're not gonna get one. And finally, the iheartradio music festival is tonight and tomorrow in Las Vegas, live streaming at CW TV dot com. The Bobby bones show. Hey, don't they call me right? Yeah, country. Music's youngest historian. That's right on this day country, music history. Here we go. Disdain. Fifty one years ago. Faith hill was born. Today's faithfuls birthday. What she's fifty one. That's that's a complimentary. She does not smoke in hot and I didn't know fifty. One year olds could be that hot. Born and ridgeline Mississippi fake l. a. sold over forty million records eight number one, singles, three number one albums breathe. Heraldic became the best selling country album of all time. The song breathe is our biggest hit spending six weeks at number one. She married Tim McGraw on nineteen ninety six and it's her fifty first birthday today. So on this damn country music back in nineteen sixty seven beta was born. Let's get to Amy versus lunchbox a little early today because we have the dance party coming up. SCO, right now, let's talk to Amy one and here's how it works. I'll give Amy three questions that lunchbox know the answer to the lunchbox gets three questions that Amy another. The answered. Let's see how we do ready question number one. What country is the beer Heineken from Germany? That's is that correct? Can sail go ahead. The it is from. Heineken is from. England? No. Can I just get ahead Belgium Holland Holland, no points there? Where's home. Over there. I know the way. What piece of camping equipment would you find a rain fly. The rang fly in your camping equipment of rain fly. Probably you know, you need that. You need to bust out that rain fly when you're in that tent. Correct. All right. Last one. On your car. What does ABS STAN for. I think as the brakes, your automatic rates on a Matic rake system on incorrect much. Much. Antilock brake system? Correct? Airbag safety. Yeah, Kim Kardashian, a Kanye west are planning to have another child. How many would that make with one more that would make number three that's incorrect. Thinking who's three. I'm gonna say, maybe they had twins and I forgot. So maybe number full. The answer is four. That is correct. There's north there Saint and their Chicago already say in Chicago twins now they had three babies already three kids. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. That right sham Bray is a fabric similar to what common cloth once box, sham Bray, Schimdt Bray. Oh, come on. It's a common clock that's like wall. It's incorrect, Amy dinner dinner's correct. I believe he's already clinched lunchbox what actress stars in the paper boy, Moulin Rouge and the stepford wives. Hey, boy, Moulin Rouge. That is definitely Madonna incorrect, Amy Neelam regime. What other one, the stepford wives. I didn't see any of those. You've already one with Nicole kid-. Correct. Come on. Claire song here she is. Scores out to the to Nashville next Friday before the iheartradio music festival tonight, which by the way, if you've ever to Bobby Valentine dot com and see how you can watch it tonight you can see we're doing a lot all night long with the iheartradio music festival, Amy, be pajamas. Now it's an, it's a cute outfit that resembles JAMA set. Jason aldean performs tonight, and I'm doing something with him. So hopefully everybody can check out what's going on there. Nashville in Hollywood that say, second skinny, he'd been helped to fans get a day off work at one of his shows in Canada. He face time their boss after pulling the fans. Onstage heath agreed to smile with a company sign in exchange for those fans to get a day off work. Are I heart radio music festival is in Las Vegas this weekend. Carrie Underwood's. Luke Bryan, and Jason aldean will be performing. You can watch their performances on the livestream at CW TV dot com. Maggie roses, new album change. The whole thing is also out today. You can check that out. I'm Morgan two. That's a skinny. Bonehead. This story comes from Fresno. California. A man was at the zoo around eleven AM. When he saw two, I want to get closer to the lions. So he broke into the lion cage and got bit on the foot lucky been on the right. Yes. He was walking across a little bridge. The lion reached out, grabbed his foot higher, took a Chuck, and they got him out of there. How do you break into a lion cage though? Shouldn't that be unbreakable? And really, he jumped over a fence climbed a wall, and then walked across the bridge before he was on the foot by the lion. He's America in Fresno, California. All right. Let's that you're boneheads story the day. It's time for the good news. Oh. So a lot is changed at the corner of Smyrna Parkway and outer loop in Louisville, Kentucky over the last fifty years. But one thing that has stayed the same school crossing guard for how long fifty years. Naomi Thomas is eighty eight years old Cheesman keeping students safe as they go to and from school for five decades. So she finally got on by co workers and bosses and friends. They had a big gathering to show their gratitude of her service and get this even when she was hit by a truck back in the eighties eighty. Yeah, wow. She was back at her crosswalk three days later despite injuries to her hand by an pip, good for her eighty eight years old and hopefully divisions, good checking this out, making sure she's good, but she got out to her. That's what it's all about right there. Friday morning conversation with Rachel. One of my favorite new artists rich wall magazine, hey, Rachel, hey, Bobby, I bet you that people mispronounce your name wrong all the time, right? Yes, they do because it's like they went, went, Eric paths, lay sorta come around. Everybody wanted to say Eric, paisley blessing, and it just took a second. So you have you say your name? Okay, Rachel. Hey, y'all. My name is Rachel Womack wom. All like w. h. wall MAC, like miss Mary Mack, but I bet you get the leeann Womack Steph all all the time. Women Womack Womack. Yours. WalMart, that's funny Obama. Yes, muscle shoals. And you know, I know about muscle shoals from the big music scene down muscle shoals. So you grew up right in that? Yeah, I did your your kid and you start singing about how old. I was singing when I was like two or three mom says, like while she was putting on her makeup in the morning, I'd be sitting on the toilet just like come in, you know, watching her put on her makeup. I'm doing. She said that my brain influence does it, and that don't let. But you get it. You know, when you're a little kid, watching your mom put on your makeup. And anyway, started songwriting in middle school and started playing out in high school, but always loved music. So. Rachel was about to talk about her parents. Are your parents fans at the show this radio show? Not a. He has my parents are in love with you, and they're so really, really excited like they were like, but when are you going to be on with Bobby? Okay, so they're very, very happy. So what does that mean? They're in love with me. Your parents are in love with me. Yeah, they just think you're the coolest. Just like once once you're on with Bobby, like we're happy saying, no, I've been playing your music though, for we know they think you're so cool because you think I'm cool. Yeah, I do think you're really cool. Rachel, Rachel wall Maxine. She's brand new artists that I find really wonderful, but we were playing a show at the Reimann together. It was Darius Rucker is this charity show, and he says, hey, Bobby, come out and play a couple of songs in you playing a couple of songs, and I went right up to you. And I know I'm just a dude. I'm just a skinny, white dude. And I was like, hey, Rachel, how are you? And we talked for a second, and you said earlier, like we've never met and I was like, I don't know this such false information. Okay. Well, I'm just telling you Amy that to anybody in my whole life like that. I've met like this whole situation now you haven't, but I mean to be just like, I'm not involved in this the story at all. Just say that maybe you did say hi to her, but she didn't hear him. I knew you were very well at that point knew who you were and if you would have come up to me, I would have been like, oh my gosh, freaking Bobby parents think you're socal. Hey, we're in the audience. How old you can ask, how old you are, your parents? I mean, are you like, how would I am? Yeah, twenty four? Okay, that's good. Yeah. So your parents aren't, you know, one hundred? Well, no, no, they are young live in life. There you go. They still Alabama Tennessee there in Alabama and muscle shoals. Yeah. Are they so proud of you? Well, yes. So just played the Opry Saturday? Yeah. And about one hundred people from muscle shoals came and like all my extended family came and it was just it was amazing. Like we, my dad organized and after party at the Marriott that I bartended up before I got my deal and they just everybody was just crying. It was awesome. The grand ole Opry is awesome. Right? Yeah, it was really, really good. You go out and you stand in a circle and you're like, holy cow. So many other famous people. Deal country music legends have stood in that same circle and played their awesome songs. And you finally get a shot to go do that. Yeah. Well, in my manager was telling me right before I go on, she was like, just take it in Rachel just taken every single minute and like every single second hunt. And I was like, okay, you know, I can do this. I felt super calm. Like in my head and my heart, I was like, I told him to take this in and I got out there and it was like, I just felt so calm. And I looked at all the people like I wasn't too nervous. I just looked at everyone and it was just amazing. Like I don't know. I just I felt like I made history is crazy that you could do that the first time I played it, it's a, it's a blur. It's like I walked. Oh, you walk out there Bobby and take it in. And I was like, okay, close my eyes. The night was over. I don't remember any of it. I, I know that I was gonna. I was gonna I was like, most performances are for me is very blurry, and I don't something about that day. I don't know. I guess I took my melatonin the night before and I was ready. So. Hey, so tell me this. You were working at a restaurant and one of these record guys, here's you sing. Is that true? It's yes that's completely true. So I was seventeen years old senior in high school, Lowell, Rachel, and I had already been performing out like Meyer original music and learning covers, and I'm playing at this restaurant. That's one of those revolving restaurants in muscle shoals and just so happen. Jim Katina from Sonia in our was like eating at the restaurant, and he'd been sitting at the bar waiting on his table, and I noticed him just because the bars like right next door you perform. And so I was like, okay, you know if he requests something all day fly, play it, but I did see him like revolve around because it's like you leave and you can't hear me for a while and then you come back and you can hear me. So. Oh, yeah. And what does he say to you after you perform. He gives me his card and it was like a Sony Music card. And he says, I'm from Sony Music, and I was like, no way like this is not 'cause at seventeen I knew very little about the music industry so much to the fact that like I feel like people just told me, don't trust anybody, you know, in the industry and he gives me his card and I was like, this is fake, or this guy sleazy you're trying to kidnap me or something. And he was who he said he was. I took my the card home to my parents and they're like, no, this is Sony Music. And my dad goes with me to meet with Jim in Nashville and just like talk about the music industry and what that could offer me in. You know what I could do with my life because I'm a senior in high school trying to figure that out and didn't move and went to college at the university of north Alabama, which is like five minutes for muscle shoals. And so you finished goal, you got a a degree, right? Yes. I got a degree in professional writing which is like under the English department, and I like words. So one of the guys that I really like I a few months ago. His name's Dan huff, you know about our to our listeners, he's super producer, super guitar player, like one of the best and listening to your podcast. Yeah, him and our talking. And he was like, hey, you know this girl yet, but her name's Rachel. And I think that's why early. I was like, I was like all benefit of the doubt Dan hop says. She's good like I'm totally in love Dan. Well, and I listened to the podcast because Dan, we like went in the studio and like he so you know, you know, we're just going in. We're talking and he's like, yeah, I was on Bobby bones. Sorry, add to come in late. I'm like, it's totally. Okay. And I was like that Mr. bean really cool. Like, did you enjoy it? Do. Oh, do you enjoy interviews like that? And you know, he's like, I mean, yeah, it was. It was really great. He said he, he had all my music. You know it. So he had mentioned something in in the in the the song would come up and I'm like, what? A great guy, you know, Kim making you feel so great. Yeah. And he's like, and I mentioned you, and I'm like, Dan, you mentioned me like me and he's like, well, yeah, of course I did Rachel, and so I went and listened to the podcast and he likes said I was a lightning bolt which now my parents are like Dan said, you're a lightning bolt. So dance play like Michael Jackson, Paula, Abdul, do all of it. It was really good podcast. Thanks. Well, listen, I know you have some you have some keys in front. Are they in front of you or they beside you? Do you have air in front of me? You can't see, but yeah. Okay. Hit him, hit him real quick. Yeah. So. Listen to that. So how about why don't we do like a cover? I, you got to cover in your pocket. Yeah, I think I got to cover. All right. This is our Rachel as everyone needs to learn how to say Rachel MAG. Thank you. I know how to say it. I hear people mispronounce it and I get irritated for you because it is your name. It's the most important thing to you. Well, we talked about having a stage name a while, like the label mentioned that several times and my mom's maiden name is Lennox. And so I thought about being Rachel Lennox, but you know, I'm, I'm just, I'm Rachel when you thought, you know, I was like, maybe I should just be me. So you're you here. She has Rachel Almac and you know, put some reading, right? Yes, I am in the studio higher rates you'll here we go. I guess so because of licensing roles can't play anything music on this iheartradio channel or podcast anymore. But you can't go to Bob bell and dot com to see it. We hate that we had taken down, wasn't artisan, but just wanted to keep you up and we wanted to keep up as much as possible. So go to Bobby Belen dot com to watch your here, whatever you're missing right now, and thank you for listening to the show and sorry about all the legal stuff. Rachel Womack is here and we've been talking to her for a bit. Let's see. Rachel grew up in muscle shoals, Alabama, true or false trail. She's making travel faxed straight here, Rachel. Thank you. Tell people listening right now, what that I it? What's is the documentary called muscle shoals. Okay. Yes, girl gave it to me as homework assignment to learn more watching I did and it was so great. So I just wanted listeners to know the name. Thank you. I should have done this and you've seen it Bobby. Yeah, it's really good same. And I worked with recall when I was in college, and he is just as stubborn as the documentary depicts, and he when we worked together, we butted heads a whole lot at the very beginning in ended up being best of friends, Amy, nine. When Rachel a seventeen and she told us a minute ago, she worked at a as a hostess. She was performing in in our rep who's like someone who goes into scarves, music sees her and you thought it was a scam, but it wasn't now next thing you know she's moving to Nashville after college you working into the bartender, right? Yes, I was. I said, the only person I really knew when I moved was Jim. You know, working at Sony and I remembered that I had a friend who was bartending in green hills, and so I was like, maybe you could give me a job there because Sony was saying, you know, we want you to move. We want to work with you, but we're not offering a deal right now. So I had to get a job and my friend got me a job, and I'm like, hick while I'm a moving. So support. Tinder, how how long did you tend bar ten months? How'd that? What'd you learn? Because when I was waiting tables, I learned so much about people and service. What did you learn as a bartender? So as a bartender, Bobby, I was not very good at making drinks. I, I don't know the like the percentages of like what you know, alcohol. I'm just like heavy poor, let's do it. But I learned a lot about people and I don't know. It was. It was interesting because I was bartending from like four to eleven PM, and then I would wake up the next day and do a co ride from like ten AM to three PM. And I just I know it was a hotel bar, so being that kind of atmosphere, I got to know a lot of people who would come in and who are the regulars and they would sit and talk to me for like three or four hours, and I just learned how to live. Listen to people and I can tell you before I was bartender. I was not a good listener and I learned the importance of listening to people and how some people just need to get stuff out. And I would go home a lot of nights three burdened for people because out here. So a lot of really heartbreaking stories that I didn't expect and ended up writing my first single to country radio, and I love it. I was put on my story weeks and weeks ago, and I was like, this, did you? So I'm gonna. Have you played that now? Rachel, she's gonna play a song called damage, and I hope people like it and I think they will ain't you sitting over there with some keys and she's playing and she sings, wonderfully and all of that stuff. So I'm going to shut up my mouth now. I'm gonna let you take us on home, Rachel. Thank you can say something say something that might be one of the like, like top performances ever done. Oh my God. I mean, oh, I don't, especially because I'm not as I can say that on the more you're familiar with something the more you like it. Okay. I mean, that's I feel that you're a lot of things. So for one, I'm not familiar with you and I'm not familiar with that song and I've already like obsessed with your voice. Can then is that. Really is like that song as powerful and knowing the back story and then picturing you, you're made to sing. It. Don't interrupt. This is not the same foul. It's not no. Might adjust finish. Bobby mentioned is really good effort. Is there. About her vocals, and then knowing that it's a personal story and it's so true and I love I love words, and I love story songs, and that's why I'm thankful that that's my single because I can back it up that it's a real story and I lived at, you know, I love that. What else do I say? I am such a big fan that the first week of the launch of my women and I, our country show I reached out. I was like, I'll put original in the first week too. So. Away. Sure. On a on a on a snap story fan. Well, listen, you got things to do. You know you got you. Gotta go and I gotta stretch ankles dance practice later. So I'm so rooting for you. PD the geek. I we'll see how that goes Monday night. I started dance on national TV, like idiot is going to be terrible. It be awesome. I totally believe in, you know, I appreciate that. Well, less, I believe in USA. We're all even your parents. I said, Hello, please do and anything you like. Anything you like to say to Rachel before she leaves the studio aren't just six cited for her to come back again. And then here I mean, I love this. She's like, basically my validity for my parents. The Bobby from body votes. Yeah, I'd say true. I'm I'm, I'm like crowd of view right now because your parents are probably go proud of you at this very moment. My gosh. Thank you so much. Twelve, but uh, well, that's all that today. Rachel Womack a and a pleasure cannot wait to see you and everybody clap your hands for my friend and our new friend, Rachel Mak. We'll see. It's time for the good news. Students at the university of Bristol love, Herman Dunkin their school custodian so much. He's been working there for twelve years. He had not been back to his home country Jamaica to see his family in twelve years. So a lot of students found that that was a story. They're smart. They set up a crowdfunding page and they raise two thousand dollars. It said him and his wife. Well, back to Jamaica for the first time in twelve years to see their family. I love that and that pretty cool. And both of them, there you go. That's what's about right there. That was telling me something good. Hey, what's happening guys, you know, on your phone always taking around trying to find stuff to do. There's a lot of games, lot of apps out there, but I'll say this. 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Transmitting across America. Right. We are in Las Vegas morning because tonight is our radio music festival. You can watch it CW TV dot com. Hope you watch it a lot of great music. Jason aldean will play tonight. I'll be doing something with Jason. My dancing with the stars partner will be with me, Amy, we'll be there pajamas set. We'll all be around which by the way Sharma's coming in just a bit. So we'll talk to her. But first, let's go with Amy. Now with the morning corny. Here we go. Morning, Courtney. How did the sausage solve the crime sausage solve the crime. He found the missing link. You. That was morning Gordon coming up Sharona my dance partner from dancing with the stars, which by the way, the show it's Monday night. I can't believe it so crazy. It's so crazy. It's Monday now. Hey, Raimondo. Are you guys trying to bet money on this is what I heard. Yeah, you can easily still be money bet. You have been moving a little bit with the betting lines, but they'll let you bet all the way up until the show starts on Monday night. I was trying to raise money. I am. I'm trying to get the show to go in and everybody put their money behind Bobby because you guys say you support Bobby. Let's see you support Bobby place, a bet. We're Las Vegas, gambling capital of the world. Let's put some money on Bobby who is in our like to encourage you not to do that. Yeah. They're just some really good dancers on this show like meaning the stars. There's some really good ones like for me to win. It's going to have to be really one of the greatest underdog stories of all time. I know. I know. I know. See what happens is you win the underdog story, then there's a movie about it. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. Well, that's up to. I wouldn't bet on me. Say. Both. Both going to the betting window. Without you guys. Hey, so in the studio now with Sharona my dance partner from dancing with the stars. So what your second time here with us? Yes, it is. We were no, we, we know each other a little better now. Yeah, just a little bit. We've we've had some time a lot of time. Really. We haven't left each other pretty much I know. Right? Yeah, we start Monday on the show. Yes. So what does that mean? Because I've, I've done, we met a Nashville. We've been in Los Angeles. We've done fittings, but I haven't done anything show. Yeah, Mondays a whole different base and there's no way that I can possibly explain this experience to you until you actually are on that bowl room floor, and you feel the energy and the crowd all around you. It's intense. It's nerve wracking, and you're gonna feel like your shot out of a cannon just trying to take in the whole experience, but we need to get that first one out of the way. It's big, it's here's way should people say they blank out. I've talked to a couple of people and they go, hey, it's just you blackout. And at the end, you're like, whoa, that happened. Yeah, it is. I think everyone has that. Same experience on this chart you get out they and the nerves and the the tension building up to it, and all of a sudden the music plays. And then all of a sudden it's very different cheering for you, and you cannot remember whether you did good. You did bad. You waiting for the judges to tell you how you did and everything is a well, and it's just an overload of experiences and emotions and your senses a heightened. It's incredible Shawna Burgess is in studio right now and this week, adult with a bit a health issue at even come off the air. Yes, because I lost my voice. Got a little sick. How do you feel about our trajectory leading into Monday's show? Honestly, the main, the amount that you'd improved in what the two and a half weeks that we've been working out of sight considering two and a half weeks ago, you had no idea what an eight count was. You couldn't put two steps together and you stressed bowl change the entire day and just couldn't get through it now way running it in rehearsals, your improving, you'll learning Linda second or teen in two hours. You'll growing so much more and more every day and that is yes as a team, but it's also. You'll work ethic it. You blow me away with how much you do and it's, you know, it's not just the work we do in the room. It's how much I know you focus on it outside of that and watching the videos and doing your homework. So to be honest, you're an incredible student for me, and I feel like that is what's gonna get us all the way to the end. So Monday night it's the first episode of dancing with the stars and you're gonna come in. We're gonna talk Monday before the show and tell people how to vote. Yes, but I guess this year and maybe all the years you can call. Yeah, you can call. You can go on ABC dot com website and make accounts there, and you can also go onto the Facebook dancing with the stars page and vote through there. So as texting Facebook and ABC dot com, three ways to aren't just say people get multiple Email accounts and just, you know, rally for us. You can follow Shawna too, because this is your name, right? Yeah. Listen, I'll tell you my Instagram followers. Heaven really cool like they've been really nice to you and I'm really proud of them. They're awesome. Yeah, your you'll be team that I keep seeing around the the most phenome-. People and always with the beautiful comments and messages. So much positivity and love for you. And I've seen my following grow in in crazy amounts since GMA announcement, and it's all good people. And I love that tonight Sean and I will be presenting together at the iheartradio music festival. So hopefully you watch that tonight and you know, I guess we're to a training advice. Yeah, we go to practice for. Yeah, we are. I jive. Already a coin, say that. Yeah. Yeah, let's say it. We've got jive people know by now come on. You've been posting pots of our routine. I wouldn't know what that is. I, I wouldn't know what yeah, in jive is t- is what's what's the jive jive is very unique. It's the only dance like it. So all those kicks that way doing and the flakes and the bull changes the drunken sale is that is all key to drive those steps. Start, repeating any of dance are. If you post a little bit about kit group that we did, then he will like all, okay, they got jive because some of fans have been watching this Sharifa ole twenty-seven seasoned educated, you know, okay, Shawna Burgess, you go to a website, Shawna, Burgess dot com. B. u. r. g. e. s. s. dot com and see all that. And we'll see you Monday. We'll see tonight. I'll see a practice and I'll see. I see all the time I see every minute buys. I see you. All right. Sean has got to go. Show. So we're in Las Vegas, tonight's is our I heart radio music festival, and you guys flew from Nashville to Las Vegas yesterday, so woman grabbed you on the airplane. Yeah, she fell asleep and it was startled. I guess she things woke her up, but she gas choosing the next to you sitting next me. My eyes are closed, and all I hear is a gas like, and then she grabs my arm. We're going to. Happening what is happening, but she just something in her sleep woke her up and she was startled and it caused her to gasping grabbed my arm and the, you know, when you're on an airplane, if your eyes are close in the next few gas grabbed your arm. You're like, okay, brace for doctors and thing, but it's nothing. She's fine. I don't even like to be asleep when the plane lands because it would just when the wheel hits the ground, it scares the crap out of me coup. So that would have been scouring my heart rate went zero to whatever, like real fast. What else? Let's see. Lunchbox. What are you you're here without your baby without the baby and without the wife. So what what did she have to say about that? She was just like, you know, hey, have fun. But remember we got a kid to pay for now and how she got you. What the guilt like gambling. What? Gay. Oh, she just said we have a kid now to pay for and you're married and you're not just out there being crazy. Yeah, don't worry about it. Do you plan to get crazy. Yeah. I mean, listen, it's going to be a free drinks. Backstage. I mean, what am I gonna do tonight? You can watch the iheartradio music festival or CW tv.com. What does that mean? You're married why she would tell you you're married Vegas? Like like a day before the baby was born at three day bender lunchboxes mad because we're in a hotel has no casino in it. Oh yeah. But that doesn't bother me because there's no smoking. It's fabulous, no bid. I have to walk twenty to thirty minutes to find somewhere to gamble. Why would the company send me to Las Vegas where you can gamble on everything and not be able to gamble in my own hotel like whoever's making decisions, you need to reevaluate the, you're not here to gamble, and the company paid for you to come. I understand they paid to put me in a hotel with no with no option to make more money. How's it? Everybody's rooms because I was like, whoa, this is awesome. The company did. Right? I don't know who did me. Right. Did you guys get a limo. Why is. Okay. When I was on my answer story was soon as we landed last night and my deny walk out and there's a limo. And we're like, uh-huh. And they're like, this is free and we'd get in the limo. You got that that cab log cabin. Oh, yeah. They're like, how many like to number seventeen. Listen, I, I don't your room maybe nicer the mine. I don't know. I just listened, but it's always worth ask. If there's anything higher, they gave me a room and it was like, you know, a low floor and I said, casually, I just said, do you happen to have anything higher available? And that's Paul off. Off the hook you up for asking no idea what? My what my room would have been like on the twelfth floor where I was, but now on the forty like ninth floor and it's baller. Geico we don't get out much. He did his house, the guy for a higher room. I was expecting like twenty from from twelve to twenty, but, oh, no. Well, we're in Las Vegas for our big festival or company sends us out where we're covering it advanced practice today. So I finished the show and I go to dance rehearsal. Oh, do you want to come watch? Yeah, I don't care. Can't. It's boring. Can you teach us and stuff? No, because. You know, one of the questions is about my glasses because the show starts Monday. And so here's Cody Allen talking about this on his show Cody Alan from santee talking about my glasses, and if I'm gonna be able to answer the glasses he was clip. I mean, he's going to have to strap those glasses on his head to secure them some sure them, yes, it's otherwise they're gonna flop around. This is not going to be a good scene. Can you think of anyone competing on dancing with the stars in glasses? I don't think it's happened before. Maybe it's time for the contact with prescription. Bobby one, eight hundred contacts. Isn't that funny? I never thought about that. I did, but I assumed you would? Yeah, find a way to secure them on because you one hundred percent have to wear glasses. People know who you are. Oh, yeah, one, we're really dark framed glasses, big thick glasses, and but into I can't see. Right, and I don't work contacts. Yeah, but no, I'm not strapping onto my head. You not taping. They don't fog up like when you're hot? Yes. Glasses fog up? No, I don't. I've never worn glasses. So wouldn't they? Fog is wet. I mean, we're not really in a son. I don't know. I'm gonna go. We have some practice today in Vegas then after I heart radio music festival, Saturday night, I go back to Elliot practice late night Saturday night and then Sunday in actual the studio. So do you go to a dance studio to practice or you're just get your hotel room? Dance studio kicked move around a lot. Okay. I don't know. Hey, guys, you know what my question then to your question. That's a legitimate question. Okay. We all thought that's a good question. Thanks because I usually have good questions. Are you gonna say. It's just crazy, and I'm really now on thinking about the glasses, and I think you should find a way to make sure they're secure. People vote for me please. Monday night. Please vote for me to be terrible on a major sport. That's all I need glasses. Bobby bowl show Dave. Cool. Yay. Turns fifty nine today. Do you know JoAnn foils? Yeah. So here's some full house for you in honor of his birthday. Have a ninety s TV trivia game. So what I'm gonna do I'll give you three character from a ninety TV show and all you have to name the show. For example, if I said Joey, Jesse and Danny, that would be we'll have full house. Let's let's easy. Okay, ready. These are nineties. Television shows Philip Vivian in Jeffrey three characters. What show Amy Bel Air? That is correct. Nice. Yup, Donna, Jackie. And Eric, that seventies show is nice. Ready Samuel, Lisa and Kelly. Say by the bell, say. I was hoping Samuel with what's what? Nineties TV show has Cory Sean into panga as when boy meets. If you miss it, you're now Amy, Carl, Laura, Steve family matters. Yep, Tim, Jill Wilson. Home. Amy, Joey, pacey, Jen. The last one. Charlotte. Samantha? Okay. And kerry. For the time, Charlotte, Samantha, and Carey guys come on seventh heaven. No. Pay. Nice on a nail seven Chick-fil-A, his testing table call buttons, so you can easily around two genius. Schick flailed -cation they know we love it. Yeah, we'll just hit. We're getting low right chick fil a.'s in San Antonio, Denver and Indianapolis are trying indicting call buttons after placing an order customers, push it and request more food come right to my pleasure. The story about Chick-fil-A doing the first responders area? I did. Yeah, they set it up after hurricane Florence. They had rim drive through like normal, but the dining area you had to be a. I responded to come in and and eat, I think was super cool because they created a space where they could people need to refuel and then all the time they shouldn't have to wait in line. So that was super cool. What was the story lunch kit? Found the person, the money in it sixteen year old kid, California driving home from school, and he sees a black person the road. He's like, man, I think that's a purse reversions to purse, gets out, opens the purse up. There is ten thousand dollars in cash. Any tastes police department. Turns it in, they try down the owner. I just would be scared. It was drug money. I mean, look at ten thousand Lorge a doesn't look. We're in Las Vegas this morning, so I think the money's got a bit freaking out. Did you bring gambling money? Oh, yeah. Did you bring more than Utah. Your wife you're bringing. I don't tell my wife how much money really has no idea how much I have in my in my wallet has no idea how much I went to the Bank and withdrew. She has no idea off. She knows I'll tell her how much I lost or how much I want. That's it, but she knows how much you make this point though. Yes, she does. You know how much money you make has never seen my paycheck ever and she doesn't know how much money you make a year. No. So how do you base decisions on your baby? Yeah, started a joint account for the baby. Like where I put a certain percentage in and she puts a certain percentage percentage of what your income's out the math, like what? What is because then you do the math? Well, she has to put more percentage because I make more than her. How that word? Why would he do that to her? What would you do that to me? How long have you been married? We've been married what years this year? Twenty. Three years. Right ever said, how much do you make a year? No, I've never asked her, but I know less than me winning. So you think is that even winning that? No, it's not winning. Well, we're, we're, we're in Las Vegas, lunchboxes going to gamble gamble. I don't think so. Come on. Until my dice over going by Bobby, we're over here. These days. You remember me, we're red energy. Can we dive deeper into how their finances how they handle it? I'm legit curious when we get back to town. Yeah. Yeah, I have so many questions right now. It's time for the good news. Victor owns a barbershop in Webster, New York, and it's an old building. It's not wheelchair accessible, so it looks outside, and there's this guy to motorized wheelchair is going back and forth trying to figure out how am I going to get in the barbershop. Victor goes out, goes, look, man. Let me come to you goes find some extension court. Hooks them up, brings the barbershop outside, so he can cut the man's hair there on the sidewalk for him. That's all right. There was telling me something good. Peso, Amy, you're asked to do a sexy photo, shoot. Is that true? Like a one of those booed Duar photo, shoot through what a company that case. I mean, I sort of like an endorsement type thing or promotional situation where we would do it and exchange like I do the photos and then they will get. But I was like, yeah, I mean, I, I know I don't all the details, but it was a request that came in for me to see if I was interested, which made me feel really good because like I got like Medicare. So what happens here is on the show as we we do this show, but different clients will come to us and say, hey, would you be a spokesperson for us? And a lot of times we say, no, if it doesn't fit what we believe in or what someone we know believes and so a client approached Amy and I guess they do these. So you'd be in your underwear are like, yeah. It's pictures that girls I did one for my husband like years ago. My best friend is I, if she was like, you have to do this all the girls are doing these days and she put together this really cool book. And I gave it to my husband and it was it was actually fun and but it my best friend was taking the photos and then you know, I, it's, it's what they want to do with those pictures. That's what I don't know. Like I get that they would be taken the photos and I like, yeah, give them to my husband, right? Keep them for myself or hang. But I mean, what be put up a volleyball dot com. I just think it probably won't be done. I'm not going to share that stuff with the world. But I mean, I was flattered, I got asked, does real. To know that you still, you know, kinda young or got it because I kind of now the old person on the show. How old are you? Thirty seven. Somebody got mad yesterday because somebody said some something, their fifties. We're old. I said, I, that was me and I'll take responsibility. But if you go back and listen, I thought it was a sixteen year old and it wasn't. I said, no, the person was older. Listen, I think I'm old. I'm thirty eight to be fair. So when I say someone's old, like I think I'm old and I mean, yeah, when I'm fifty, I'm fine. Some old Amy lives next to one brothers Osborne TJ Osborne. And so because the neighbors for how long? Oh man, like a couple years place him brothers Osborne here, you. Gay singing right there. And so you saw moms and on the porch outside. She was letting the dogs out she was over at their place and walking by and she's like, hey, hey, I hadn't ever formerly met her before. She doesn't live there and she asked it. She's the Keanu thought you remarried and Morris walk. That's not really the story, but that's how the conversation started. And I said, oh, well, and I have heard that before. So whatever. And then I said, oh, no, I'm Amy. I live next door. And when I said Amy next door, she goes and you work with Bobby bones. And I said, I do, and she said, he's going to be on dancing with the stars. This season. I was like, I know. And so then it came out that she's a superfan of dancing with the stars and a big fan of us. You said right when she found out you're gonna be on the season season. She said she picked up the phone and called TJ to tell him the Bobby bones is going to be on dancing stars. So I told her to be watching Monday night and to vote for you, please? Yeah, please. People vote. Getting Pani endorsements and. You're working out new haircut. Yeah, you're good. Who does. The Bobby bones show. I saw that Kylie Jenner tweet where she had cereal and milk for the first time ever. That was a tweet just had cereal with milk for the first time ever. Take a hundred and fifty thousand likes, and I guess she'd had cereal and she'd had milk, but she had never had cereal a milk. Interesting. My little sister and I'm which I'm four years older than my sister and we would sit and we will get cereal as a kid. We, we get one box weak and sometimes we would get name-brand. Like once a month, we get real honeycomb and we will get a name brand kind of serial. We'd fight over the back of the box who got to look at the back of the box and they would be as much as a four year old older brother and younger could fight with fight about the back of that box because while we ate our Syria because most of the time we got generic sue, we'd have any money, so. And that wasn't a bag a flat bag. Oh yeah. No games, no games, no mazes on the bottom of bunny combs, you know, the fake Honey combs, but you got the real win the box of stand up. We would fight over who got a look at it while they ate their cereal. Because you said on both sides of the table, man. Why was good when those are the problems like that? So yeah, she tweeted that in first time. She ever had cereal at coffee up coffee for the first time I've had to start drinking coffee because I get up to. I'm staying in an apartment in California. A lot. A lotta dirty CHAI straight coffee is gross. Yeah, you should tweet that I don't get that many likes. No, I did that. What's the story you're talking about Facebook? Well, people is just this study about how people who are insecure about their relationships are more likely to use Facebook to stock Xs online. So if you are in an insecure relationship, your Facebook stalker. So you go and you look at your Xs, it's to fulfil attachment needs. So if you're not in a good relationship, you go look at old relationships particularly for people with low self esteem. Do you know I don't really ever check on any of my ex's on socials. When I read this, I was definitely curious about that. Like Meyer ever get curious to go back and check it out because I know you're still friends with most of them. I'm good with all of them online. I don't know if you'll also follow each other. Lindsey, Netto follow each other anymore. My last girlfriend. What's up that. Move though a good move though he just did it because it is easier for while I think we follow each other now because we don't. We're not don't talk as much. We used to. They've never gone back and just been curious. I haven't in a while I didn't. I stopped following. I wanted to go see what's happening. Didn't really curious. I tell you that's a Mexico, not girlfriend, but I've had some girls. I've dated in the past pop back up in my phone in the past couple of weeks. Oh. Into the bushes when you know your tree all the side and it's like, hey, what's yeah. Like I'd heard from in years. Yeah. What how to what's going on in your life? Do you reply or do you just ignore it? Talk to everybody. Good. I like it. I like it. Yeah, I think Amy's come into the premier on Monday as a right Amy's going to come to the dancing with the stars premier unless something happens with kids. But I think I'll be there think Amy will be there, which will be crazy. I, I don't even know what is going to be able to vote from the studio on his. I don't know how to raise my hand. I don't know how that works, but that'd be fine. Yeah. No. I mean, I'm so excited for you ring close. I brought an outfit just in case is kind of like my vision board. I was like pack the outfit, maybe putting it out there. They're like, I'll get to go. But obviously my kids come first. I've known new those kids. Okay. Sammy's pile of stories does sometimes on Fridays, like to give you a little fun fact talk about over the weekend, and this is one that I was like, what that theme song for friends was originally going to be shiny, happy people by REM, but they decided not to give the show the rights to the song. Oh, do you know the song, shiny happy people. Play the clip Raimondo. This is Johnny, happy. People. So that was going to be the theme song for friends. So they hate themselves now, right? Looking back, they absolutely hate themselves for not giving the right because they cost himself millions upon millions upon millions upon millions of dollars. Well, REM may a lot of money and maybe they and Michael Stipe has a lot of creative integrity, maybe wanted a part of the show, but listen to this. So if you hear that song back again, the female part of that China have people on that part of the song is the lead singer from the b. fifty twos using love shack. Yeah. So play play that again and thinking love shack when she comes in who go shining people. Glenn. So I see your TV fun fact. I radio music. Fun fact what else you got. Okay. So I have a why everybody needs their quotes, work wife. You out me a female on the job writer die is appear. Don't use the word writer, though the my vernacular writer died never comes up because you're a guy that I mean, I say, writer die. I would feel like bobby's guy. I like, yes, I have a friend Mary. She's goes to Haiti with me all the time and for like four years. And I've like on Instagram before. I've been like, she's my Haiti, writer die. You have guts. Okay, that's cool. I would never say that now because it's girl just like motorcycle gangs, right? No, it's cool. It's like your best friend that got your means. It's just a weird term like, say, you're my writer died. So anyways, I'm your work life, but the reason why you need one. It's a good one like appear to grab lunch with get advice from rely on when you're swamped. You know they can make your whole nine to five thing. A whole lot happier. I would say you're a give a kidney to and not die. That's how closely. And lastly, if you're looking to live longer happier life, here's five tips that are all backed by science. I'll just run through quickly and you can do further research if you want to, but don't smoke a drink too much. Keep learning, maintain your friendships and try to be a good friend, develop good coping skills. And lastly, get involved in your community and give back to others, eleven things. Five don't smoke too much. It gets a little. It's just a little. I'll go further into that one. It says, if you smoke, it's time to quit, but drinking Davel little bit. Bobby show we're going to go. We are in Las Vegas tonight is our heart radio music festival. So we've got a busy day today. I hope you check it out CW TV dot com. So we only the studio and have to go to dance practice. Oh yeah. And then all meet up later on and do I already music festival and have some food and they were all out here gamble before after whatever. It doesn't matter, whatever. I feel the urge I just walked by table. I see it calls my name I go. But when do you plan to go out and gamble gamble? I like I like to hit it hard after the festival and the nighttime is a better atmosphere. And I like the craps table at night because there's a lot of people and it's a party during the day, it's of dead and it's kind like sad if you're the crafts stable. I feel like if I play having gambled on long time, but if I'd like crafts like ten AM alone table. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, let's check it out. CW tv.com. Thanks for hanging and we'll see you on Mondays. Bobby bones show by everybody.

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This is no fantasy focus baseball podcast here your hosts Tristan Cochran's in americ- era. Bell. Hi there and welcome to pennies focus baseball to beautiful Thursday morning, September twentieth two thousand eighteen. I American. He is tristen and producer, Anthony Calatayud pushes all the buttons Tristan only a couple of shows left of the season as not this weekend, but next weekend, the regular season will indeed end and we're already seeing some teams, you know, shutdown players like we got shut down. AL race is pretty much over so we might see, I don't know. Maybe Nelson Cruz doesn't play that much last week. The point is like. Painting raise hading, come on. The razor are just as far out as the Phillies and nobody thinks the Phillies have a shot. I look, I still love the story and they're, they're mathematically still in it. I know it's highly unlikely. It was a point point, one percent playoff odds for them, but. What are you gonna do. I mean, look, I hope if the raise in the Phillies are still playing for something next weekend. I do the Philly. That'll be decided this week and they almost half the sweep the Braves, and a four game set, which seems really unlikely to be raised. Just keep. I love what the rates are doing. I just want an amazing season for this race thing. We spent time talking about raise individual players on this show in the past month because they're gonna win ninety plus games. Actually, I've got fun trivia for you if you'd like raise related. Oh, you're trivia that Eric won't. No, I won't pretty. You're. You probably will not know this, but it's a fun because flakes no one is twentieth game we saw. I heard Ryan Yarbrough to he won his fifteenth game, which is pretty impressive. Considering how was a starter? Yeah, that's the thing like he's got six starts with a year and he's got fifteen wins now. That's because thirteen of them have been relief wins. And most of those are result of the score official. Scores decisions and the like, however, with thirteen relief winds, he's the first pitcher to accrued that many since when was the last guy to accrue thirteen relief wins. And I can tell you if you'd like. Remember the face have a year where he was eighteen and one for the pirates. It's probably more recent than that. Yes, it was nineteen fifty nine. He was eighteen in one of the two sixty relief a ninety. Three hundred and forty, seven games finished, but it was more recent than that John Hiller. He had a year where he won double digits or where both way too young to have ever remember this even though we probably remember Mark corn Mark. I Cornwall how all right. That is one of the two well done. Yeah. One of the two. Yeah. Two guys in the same year one fourteen in relief. Mark eichhorn. That is the toughest one. Nice job. I, I remember that because well, I heard people that were playing. I wasn't playing that year, so I don't know why. I know that we were. We were not even born yet. We just used our time machines to have seen the eighty six season. That's all. So it was the tandem closers of the New York? Mets. And Roger McDowell is the one who won four. Roger eight, Dow just by the way at thirteen and Eighty-three. So you know they each did it in a couple of years. I'm going to tell you, I enjoyed that way a relief pitching more than the car one. I mean, like I, I don't really enjoy eight pitchers pitching in a game like everybody going one inning. All these strikeouts everybody's throwing ninety eight. I kind of enjoyed it a little bit more. When tug McGraw was throwing eighty two getting outs. That's that's. Growing up. So you had anyway, this is the way it is. Now. There's been some great relief performances this year. Of course, how many pictures of one hundred strikeouts out of the bullpen. I'm gonna check three or four. I don't think it's that many. So yeah, it's still it's a big deal. The problem is they just don't. They don't throw enough innings, you know like, hey, but Kansas has has the regular for consecutive hundred eight years. Four right as a four years in a row, I believe it is. Yeah, it's the record. So we do thriving Yarbrough as one hundred and one strikeouts other than really count. Well, here's one hundred one as a reliever, but again, he's not the relievers. The true relievers that have one hundred strikeouts Josh hater Edwin the as down Matanzas adamant, Avinu and Brad hand. Okay. There you go. Yep. By the way, the lot of saves let's bring back the Tony LaRussa mix and match relief thing member that seven day thing he did in ninety four. I'd love to see that combined. There'll be horrible, horrible for fantasy talking about that. He they were talking about on MLB network this week, and he just he's one of those old school guys that doesn't understand the current. He hates people like you and me, you know who talked analytically, but he was doing something smart. I long time ago. Anyway, let's get to the news of the day. Here's the buzz. All right. What should we get to? So we're looking ahead to not only next week but also next year on today show. So you do the fantasy forecast where you need to do it so well, and it's pretty much updated every day. Right? But it all the final week version will be released on Friday. So give us a hint for those those people that are still playing for something in the final week of the season. Again, we're already seeing some weird pitching stuff going on. We're gonna see some pitchers starting. Probably haven't started all year some hitters. They're going to sit. How do you even approach this? This forecaster. You try to maximize the most likely singular matchup for your starting pitchers because most people do not have a right to expect to start from your pitcher. So a couple of notes on here in the US PIN games. We don't count any of the play of the tiebreaker games. Anything that is after that Sunday, the thirtieth, those won't count for your standing. So just be prepared for that. So if you're assuming you might get handed a free extra start there, just be careful. You got to check your league's rules and in our game, we're not gonna count that the other is that teams that are in contention or out of contention and don't need to rely on a guy in that final weekend or that final days specifically, which by the way, all the games start at the same time, we love that not going to matter in the AL, but what are you going to do? Those pitchers could get bumped. So just as I say, look for the most likely projected singular start for your guy and go based on that to give you some of the ten day. We have eleven days left, but this is a ten day look for hitting schedule. Some of the better ones that are out there include the Red Sox who unfortunately are going to be resting guys facing some weaker teams. The rock. Rockies the Rockies actually are going to play their final seven games at home, and then they have three that are coming up this weekend in Arizona. So they're gonna have good ballparks their Detroit a team that you know, I mean, there's guys are widely event lively available. You can throw in the back of your lineup, actually have a pretty good one there. Especially the left handed hitters. Astros have a pretty good schedule for hitting the rest of the way the Yankees do as well. They're still trying to to maintain the home field advantage for that. The Phillies Eric, the Phillies they do have a good set of hitting matchups. They've got that four game series and cores that's going to help. Unless Romney Phillies you want to carry on though because the lineup is kind of weird every day. Obviously, we know certain Phillies that are gonna play, but we saw skins Rostro knol leagues already. Like how many you're gonna pick up Aaron, Al Tair next week. I can't say Hernandez. You just can't. I can't do it. I think it's it's one where I've noticed the Carlos Santana is doing some of the on-base stuff that he's done in his past and getting those games in third base, kind of prevent presents a little bit of an advantage. I don't know that he's out there is a free agent, but I feel better about using the players who might be all on my roster already. That's fair. It's just the few Phillies that have really been good offensively season and Santana from a fantasy aspect. Batting two thirty three with twenty three home runs and no other help. I guess eighty runs is nice. It's just not a whole lot there is he eligible at third base for next year yet. I don't know. He's got the ten. He's gonna tend to get it this year up there right most teams at the twenty, although he could be their third base, he could actually get to twenty because actually I don't know if the Phillies had gone over the the one fifty two. Yet the major league average for remaining teams. Remaining games per team is exactly ten. There are three hundred games left to play exactly an average of ten per team. Interestingly enough, you want the ready left the advantages. Sure, absolutely people listening when ivory Vange they can get. So Braves are facing a heavy amount of right handed pitching. So that leads to that side. The Orioles will be facing a lot of lefthanded pitching. Looks like they might be facing half left handed starters in their games. That's an unusually large amount Seaney. That's good for definitely, definitely splayed quite well. Cubs are playing a lot of righties and you know that they like to mix and match. Selena, the left as we mentioned beds zobrist on the show before Indians play a lot of rights, I think they're going to be going more for the in half could be as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Angels face a lot of rights run. Yep. Yep. That's place the Mets. This is actually extremely advantageous here. They're playing within the division, the Mets, which means they're going to face what's the division of of extremely right handed heavy rotations. And I've pointed this out that the Mets lefty hitters are out there in a surprisingly large percentage of leagues, including Jeff McNeil, so they might face nothing. But right handed starters, the rest of the way pirates face at least five, lefty starters and soda, the Padres and the Padres have some righty power hitting guys who you could pick up, including hunter. Renfro is actually been picked up in a lot of leagues, but front mill race. Several Mets are on the ESPN. Most added lists right now, Jeff, McNeil's their number four up eighteen percent over the past week, Michael Conforto number seven. Sixteen percents, Jay. Bruce is on that list. He's still available in eighty percent of leagues. He's got all Ryan pitching next week. So that's pretty interesting. Most added player right now is Albert modesty, and he should be at another comedy yesterday, Yasuo tweak man. If if we could just hit left, he's like, that's a thirty five home run season. If he can just figure out how to hit left. He's in play more than other home run last night maze. It's, I mean what he has done. I mean, when when wants to turn it on, he sure can. It's. He can't. Let's get to the news of the past couple of days while we're here. Trevor stories elbow. So the Rockies claim that story will play on Friday earlier in the week. But after our Monday show, there was speculation that he had a UCLA hair and he might need Tommy John surgery, which means he would be out for like half of next season. In addition to the like the rest of this season. You feel confident whichever story for next week this weekend. I mean, I guess if he's active and playing, you gotta play them, but he concerns me. Yeah, he concerns me too, and I think you are going to if he comes back half to play him because there aren't really look. There just aren't alternatives of that position. You're not gonna get a player who has the potential thump that Trevor story provides you to check the Rockies. Let's loop Cisco scrolled right past them? Yeah. The Rockies definitely because of the heavy number, of course, I mentioned a minute ago with that. You're going to have to lean on them. The interesting part about this just fantasy wise is in Desmond, getting the start there the other day. So if things don't go particularly well, and I hope we get an answer for that before the weekly lineups lock on Monday, maybe Desmond sneaks in a couple of games there. Maybe you have a league where you just need the one game requirement. Keep an eye on that. Yeah. I mean in terms of watching for position eligibility purposes thing there. But for next season Santana the police do have eleven games left. If he plays ten games. A third. That's a big difference him being eligible at third in addition to first base for next year, he may not be affiliated, but still that's kind of important. We're all watching Francisco. San Francisco. Mahia is at six games this season, but no matter even if he doesn't get the ten, he will be catcher eligible next season because he's not the aging, correct. That's a good thing. It'll go to the friendship, right? That's and people still complaining about it, but look, don't blame us. That's the rule in Desmond. That was his first game. Sure, it wasn't it. So he's not gonna make it? No, no third game will Myers. Third base is one that I noticed was picked up. Matt carpenter is losing his second base. Most likely there. I think labor tours is gonna fall just shy of getting the shortstop qualification for next season. Yeah. Well, we'll Myers twenty eight games at third. How about that? Some pitchers discussed here if you don't mind, Trevor Bauer coming off deal after the a minor fracture in his shin, but he's going to be the opener. And Shane Bieber will be the middle innings guy for four or five innings your thoughts on Trevor Bauer. You know, it's one thing to trust Chris sale for two, two winning outing, but Bauer who's probably going to do this again. Next Tuesday, I'd say no, I drop our in our office league. I still feel good about that. Yeah. I mean, in terms of the killing for this year and fantasy, it's a very tough read. I'm a no on Friday just because as you mentioned the opener thing, it's going to be a very limited pitch count, and it's Boston and Boston could throw out if it has clinched by that point. In other words, if it clinches today, the division, they're going to throw out a be lineup, so all right, I get it. Maybe he'll throw one to spotless innings. The other thing that's weird about it, so they're gonna, throw them in on three days, rest at Chicago and Tuesday, and then their plan is, and I don't think they're going away from this to start him on the final day in Kansas City on Sunday. So if he could somehow get up to four five innings and that I start and then get a ninety pitch count in the Sunday one. He's a two star pitcher who gives you enough with great matchups that he might actually be worthy of a start next week. I'm with you that that I think from from just the opener and the usage perspective on, no, but it is curious what they're doing with him and Bieber obviously is no longer useful. I think for people he's just not gonna. To give you enough. Wow. In a way, if Shane beaver goes six innings and reliefs the same as if he started, but it's Boston tonight, which can use them? No, no, no, of course not. But I also I wouldn't have used Severino last night and look what he did. Right? I mean, we were both. We both said no Severino are using Severino next week. Again in a rematch against the Red Sox could be. As you know, less than half a lineup and see, that's the thing, though, is that Severino is currently aligned for Monday and Saturday, which would be games at Tampa Boston. I like the Tampa match because of the ballpark, extremely pitching friendly. But on that Saturday game, especially if he has a good outing here on Monday against Tampa. There's no reason to push Severino. I think he'd be on a very limited pitch count. I think they'd yank and pretty quickly in this game. I, I mean, they might just scratch them entirely. I feel like I'm still a no for the Boston outing, aren't you? I I, I can't look. I don't know who starting the one game playoff for the keys, but several and it has to be at least an option to pitch in that game. So I can't understand why he would start next weekend. This weekend. Fine. We haven't talked a whole lot of other pitchers that are doing well, Zack Wheeler, great season. He has shut down so you drop them, you drop them. He's not pitching again this season Walker, Buell man what he did last night, twelve strikeouts in six innings. He is legit. I am trying to find a spot. And Jack Flaherty in my top twenty starting pitchers, I really am. I've loved the yellow that goes on every time he, he strikes out a hitter. Bring me back some good old ferris bueller days. I have a tough time ranking up for next year to I. Where we put. I did my top ten. I finished my top ten pitchers. Okay. And you know, I mean, people should check it out online, but I have sure sale kluber my top tier Kershaw that four. So I relented a little bit there. The grump Berliner Nola Snell call Syndergaard so and then like, but I don't have like ten others that have to be in the top twenty. So to me, I think there is a little bit of room there where I could give flowers and Buehler him. You know, you got your Strasbourg, Bumgarner Grinky guys kind of know what they're going to do if they pitch. I mean, is there anybody missing? I mean, I keep looking at this and saying God be missing somebody. We're. Yeah, we're not far off. I believe if I've it's hard for me to absorb all ten of those names that quickly, I believe we have the exact same ten individuals in our top ten. We just have them slightly different by off by spot or so which I find very interesting. And I actually think that's telling about how strong and reliable we consider that top ten that that tier one and tier two. However, you want to break the tears down in terms of the rankings. Very interesting that we're close on this. We also were pretty close in some of the names. You just mentioned there that are in that eleven to twenty in which I feel bueller is going to fall into for me right now the the rough draft version, which I'm hoping to have ready for tomorrow, bueller at nineteen among starting pitchers. Other guys who were candidates and they're still had Paxton in that group. Jack flyers wanna made a strong case. Jameson Tyrone, you know, I'm a very big fan of is one who makes a case. Mike Fulton niche makes a case. You can expect some rebounds from maybe somewhat disappointing players like Bumgarner like Robbie Ray, perhaps. I mean in Patrick Corbin where does he end up. Has a has to be considered. At least they borderline top twenty guy. I would think. I mean, what an amazing season he's out to and where he ends up is going to have a lot to say about this because remember even with the human ordinary Zona helping with the ballpark factor, somewhat, it seems that almost anywhere he goes, if it's outside of Arizona is likely to represent a significant ballpark upgrade. All right. Let's move along. Now, here are the combo meals. Me. All right, since our last show, the following players had a home run and a stolen base in the same game whore. Hey, Al farro the Phillies catcher back sketch that's takes them doing. You know, he is. He's actually pretty fast for a catcher. I gotta say he's very athletic big, but fast guy can't block pitches for his life. But I mean, he's a amazing arm. He's got power like I could see him hitting twenty five home runs next season. If he was the starter, I don't know if he will be you rather have him or Gary. No, I'd take Sanchis, but I do think I'll was upside. He's like two fifty with twenty five home runs. I think they might just resign Wilson Rama's the other guys who had common meals, Mike trout, hunter Pence. I'm not even sure it's playing next year. Freddie Freeman and Adalberto mind is see who has become Eric's favorite player on Twitter. I want Trump believable what he's done for combo meals already in sixty five games. Ten home runs twenty six deals. I mean, if you extrapolate these numbers, man, he's a top ten player if you extrapolate these numbers the top ten player, but he's obviously not. That's that. Is that is that crazy to say that is it wrong? It's double even does double him. That's twenty home runs and fifty two stolen bases with a good batting average and lots of runs that's treaty murders not doing this. So if we're calling trae Turner a top ten pick next year at demonises putting up numbers in a small sample grant you with the plate discipline grant you better than turtles. Not even from from from your point about the pace. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, as you said doubling, it gives them only one hundred and thirty games and it gives them twenty and fifty two numbers which yeah, based, especially on any sort of valuation system is going to place them up there. The only thing is it's going to still give them only seventy eight runs and sixty RBI in that team's not going to get much better. But one thing that I did I actually I I looked a little bit closer into this. It does sound like Ned Llosa's coming back next year. I don't think there's going to be a red light here if he gets them on, if he gets himself on base at any sort of reasonable rate. I mean if it's three hundred even which might be lower than that, unfortunately, he's going to run. I don't. I mean, I'm having a very difficult time ranking them. I can't gut lies put him on my top ten shortstops, but it's sure thought with narrow field leads off the top fifty player modesty about second. He's a top hundred player. I gotta do it. Right. I look. I know we talked about this on every show and every show you get a little bit closer and closer to my opinion on this. But like you just keep playing like this. I, I don't know how we can ignore it. You're not getting me into the top hundred autumn. I just can't see it. I can see Mary field and the top fifty. I'm with you on that. He's shown us enough of a sample, but this is this is some bad plate discipline. Cavs sell. All right. I did my top ten closers for next year and a blog this week over the last thirty days. The number one relief pitcher on the player. Raider is Roberto SUNA, Jeremy, Jefferson's second. Blake China's third d as Leclerc and Yates. The clerking gates are closers that as long as the job next year I'll be looking for them after round fifteen. And I would think that they're going to be there. They're not going to be ranked as top ten closers, not like the other guys that we, I don't know about Jefferson depends on it. Milwaukee says, Jefferson's. They're closer which they won't because they're going to. They have a Canadian and they have hater. Then he Jeffords might be like a borderline top ten closer and rankings if Milwaukee announced that, but Leclerc and gates wouldn't be, and I think that those teams are not buying like closers, so they would just let those guys close thoughts on that. I'd agree. And I'm ranking initially under the assumption that gates and Leclerc are the guy which means that both of them are gonna get at worst into my top twenty five relievers. One of the problems I'm finding with the rankings here is that I don't feel like we can put anywhere near as much of a weight on saves this far out from the twenty nine thousand nine projections would on the rest. So in other words, Josh hater is showing something about how the other stats really matter with with rolls up in question. And one of the reasons for that is the level of free agency available on the closer market among free agents. Currently going into the off season, Craig kimbrel Jairus familiar Cody. Alan, David Robertson Zach, Britton, Andrew Miller, but Norris Kelvin Herrera atom. Motto, vino, Ryan Madson, Trevor Rosenthal who could be a bit of a sleeper there in terms of getting a closer job. And of course I'm forgetting Sergio. Romo. A lot of guys really is. I mean, a lot of teams come like two or three guys. You said ten? Yeah. A lot of changes coming one lasting closers before we move on is what Josh hater is doing. Is that sustainable for next season that strike out that year Ray that whip. The winds of saves any of it is what trial shadier is doing sustainable. It is if he retains the elite stuff, I worry always about guys like this who pitch. I mean, he's pitched a decent amount. I mean, he's throwing multiple innings a lot, so there could be a little bit of taxing, and if it takes anything off of his stuff, there's going to be some additional regression beyond just the natural progression where you can expect. I mean, he's he's averaging nearly sixteen case per nine. That's tough to repeat. Especially send somebody pitching deep into October because that teams we're going to the World Series. Wow, this weekend. Okay. I don't know. Phillies Braves the big one. I mean Philly's have to win. Phillies can't lose this game Kevin Guzman on the mound for the Braves, five and two to sixty one year Ray since joining them. We always get sucked in with this guy. Give me his numbers for next year in Atlanta, thirteen wins. Three fifty are a one twenty. Whip eight point two canine that sound reasonable too much, or we just saying we all entrust in the good now. I kinda liked that projection. I do I through those numbers. I'm like, I wouldn't quibble that. I wouldn't. I mean, he's going to be back there. I think it's a very big positive that he's there instead of in Baltimore in the at least partially from a ballpark perspective, let alone just the league difference. I, you know, I'm I'm historically pro Godman. I'm just I don't know that the breakthrough front of a staff potential. Is there any more. All right. That game is on ESPN plus on Thursday night by the way last game of the day. And it's at seven thirty PM eastern time, whether permitting as always on Friday, Chris sale and Trevor Bauer each going to innings on ESPN two at seven pm eastern it sale actually only going to endings again or is he going to get the throw seventy? Five hundred pitches? I don't. I don't know. I think he's getting it bumped up a little bit here to probably throw sixty five seventy pitches. I would think here they need to get them ramped up for the playoffs at this point. Okay. I would say so and Bauer making his triumphant return as well. ESPN plus at nine forty eastern has Herman Marquez, la- Rockies amazing strike up pitcher of late against that godly. Is there anything we can learn from Zach godly because he was ranked high? You know, some people, Adam as a top twenty five starting pitcher this year, he ain't finished that way. So like I keep saying, is there anything we learned from Blake's Snell who could easily go from twenty wins the twelve next year that golly, what did we learn from that? I mean, he had command problems in the minors, but still like I didn't see this band season coming, no, but and I, you know, I dig deep onset godly because this is one of the guys I have in my my sim league rotation. So I'm always breaking down the nitty gritty here. The walk rate has always been bothersome, and that I think is the key takeaway here. Is that last year? Yes, eight and a half walk rate which was promising. If you compare to his professional rates, it still wasn't great. And he had a lot of things break. Right? And that. It's one of the issues here is that one of the reasons he's been so successful or was last year was because of the double play. He had. He was so good at getting ground balls, key ground balls at the right times. He wasn't like Zach Britton wears getting grounders seventy percent of the time. It was a little bit greater than half and minimized, hard contact. If you give back any of those gains, especially in a ballpark, like he has, he's going to be inconsistent from start to start basis. So hopefully we see a better version positive regression for him, but I don't. I don't think he's capable of matching those exact rates in two thousand seventeen. I think he's somewhere in between. Saturday, you can probably pick up Ross stripling against the Padres pretty easily there. I would say you could pick up Zach eighties versus Trevor Williams. Both those guys. I'd rather Trevor Williams has been really good. I think he's does the top of your race since the break Jacob Jonas at the Troy on other guys seems interesting to me Sunday night baseball on ESPN is the Red Sox and Indians and our earlier at seven pm eastern. We do not know starting for the Red Sox apparently, and the Indians are going with Adam putt goes, so maybe not the start on pitchers. You want for fantasy in that game, but I'm sure you can find some interesting guys on that day on Rhode Island might be available in your league. Wade, Miley look. I don't know how he's doing it, but he is doing it. He's at Pittsburgh. Numbers are fantastic this season. So I think Wade Miley is a guy you pick up on Sunday night even if it's even if you know your head to head league and you could lose Iran, whip. Look, how good is these doing so and it's the right ballpark for that because I've pointed out that. PNC it's terrible for right handed power. He's the lefties. 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Obviously still have a league where I'm number one. You've elite where you're in the play offs. I just missed I. I'm not getting home field advantage in that one though. Unfortunately, it's a bummer. No, wow. Former colleague or have the top go, see their John has a question one pitcher each that you believe underachieve this season and should be targeted next year. You know, whoever ain't well in question. It is a very good question. It can't get top twenty guy either. It can't be like Jose king Tana or somebody like that. It's gotta be somebody we had my hopes for. Yeah. I'm just saying like, you can't name Chris Archer or you know it's gotta be or Darvish it's got be like like Luke Weaver would make sense. Yeah, thirty. You went on to thirty one in eighty beat. I wanted to rank him pretty well. Yeah, but I I really couldn't make the case for it. When I was looking closer, the guy, he's probably too high in the ranks as Louise Custodio. I was just going to mention that. Yeah. Well, he was under achieved because he was inconsistent. Yeah. We mentioned that the slight velocity loss and at times he seemed to recapture it and then it would kind of go away after that. So I, that's the one reason. I can't just dive right back in, but I really want to. He's got exceptional stuff. This changeup is still one of the best in the game. I think. That's yeah, he's, he's certainly interesting. I think this question is more for like mid to late round pitchers like Jake Faria of Tampa Bay, Alex race cardinals. Those guys jumped out to me as obviously they were hurt, you know. So it's not really all their fault, but I still see huge upside like nothing changed in the way I'm going to. Well, I guess for Ray s you have to view them as brittle now. But in terms of the upside for both these guys, I don't think much changed. I think they're going to both still be really good. I'd agree with that. I think that's definitely some rebound on that. Also your pick from the lingerie gelato. Well, I didn't expect a ton from this year so he didn't really underachieve this year to me. He did what he was supposed like. The question is underachieve I don't think you'll eat. Oh, did I think he started to emerge? And I'm not gonna say the next Blake Snell body come in the next Fulton Evans. You know, like there's Gilio has that in him, I think strike up attentional if you just stopped trying to strike everybody out, he just needs control. Right, right. Fair. Yeah. I mean from the aspect of know from the from the aspect that he did not disappoint relative to draft position, that's, you know. That's a good point. All right. So here's the guy that I'm really racking my brain about what to do with you. Darvish. I want to know part of it like you're not gonna run. I didn't want him any part of this year. No, of course. But forty, like, I don't want to deal with this and he was on my do not draft list this year. He must have been. I just. I don't know destroy you. Fair. Yeah, I mean ranking you. Yeah, that's the. That's why I raised. The question is because I feel like in the initial projections said and the the, the very, very first super rough draft item outside the top sixty starters, and I felt good about it. And then I said, no, you know what I think of being too critical. I better swinging back up to the top thirty five and I don't feel good about that either. I feel it just splitting the difference in throwing a dart at like forty. Five fifty is just sitting there on the fence and not deciding I, I don't like doing that. I think it's exactly. I don't think it's not deciding. I decided that I like forty pitchers better than you Darvish better investments. But I'm still, I actually rank forty pitchers. I dunno, I might have been better. You're right. The middle classes starting pitcher is not reliable. So. You know, and you d'arvor's is upside is clearly top ten. Let's move on Eric rights with any call ups that are decent speed editions. I don't need it. Bats pinch, running opportunities. We're fine. Decent speed. I mean that Gorgon right on the cubs feels us. He have DARREN'S. And he doesn't even bet. Terrance Terence score. Yes. Taryn score, right? Isn't he like the super pinch runner from a couple years ago? Yeah, there was a as a matter of fact, I think labor two years ago. I think the league was swinging based on Justice contributions as speedster. And I think he had like one in the month. Well, he has five steals in five at bats this month, but he's not really a great example because barely played in the past two weeks. I'm looking at guys who are running that might still be available in your league on on, obviously being at it in a while. There might get a chance to play a lot next week, Alex Gordon is stealing basis for some reason. What a nasty Gord on your call. Guy for you on base percentage since the all-star break. Austin meadows. Supposed to come up this weekend? Yeah, I don't know how much they're going to play him. I, I'm curious about the plain dumb because if the rates do fancy themselves of wildcard contenders still they need to play their best assets and win games at the same time. I think it's extremely smart to play meadows every single inning, the rest of the year and get just an initial read on how he plays. So kind of go either way, what does that really tell them? I don't understand what that's gonna tell them letting him play five games that's going to tell them that he's good. No, but I think it's, I think it's better than not having done it. I think it's a good idea to just get him some reps. They're get familiar with the park, and I'm familiar with the game with them. The lineup. You know, I know it's not going to do an awful lot. I just think it's better than the alternative. Brennan writes my friends and I are considering an auction league next year. And you discuss positive and negatives which do prefer between that instinctive after? I prefer an auction, but it does take time. But to me like it's once a year you're doing this, not once a week and auction so much better. It just is like you pick tenth. You're not getting my trout. You're not getting Mookie Betts, and you're in an auction, you can get them both. You can literally get them both in an auction. You can do a stars in scrubs. You can have a balanced team where you don't spend more than thirty on any player. I just an auction just so much fun and it changes like during the auction, you have money, you don't somebody who's doing this thing. You do that. I mean, you agree, right? Actually so much better. It's just it's a little bit more of a commitment for that day. Yeah, I, I really agree on this. I mean the positives as you wrapped up there. I mean, perfectly, I think is that it does give you a lot more control over the individual players. If you have a strong leaning on an individual that guarantees you the right to claim that player, whereas in a draft you do have to think about when the players go on to be taken around you with other picks. The other thing too is gives you the luxury of crafting your roster and the way that you want. You might not want to spend very much on pitching and be forced into having to take those at times that you wouldn't in a traditional draft. So greater control the negatives as you mentioned the time. The other thing too is I am finding that people who are not willing to invest the time into coming up with the detailed cheat doing putting up the proper preparation, knowing that deeper tiers of auctions, they get taken advantage of in an auction, you find that mistakes are feasted upon a little bit more in that format. So you need to have if it's twelve teams, twelve people who are very committed to. To that strategy and being properly prepared for it. Because the worst thing you have is in a draft, you're never gonna see Austin meadows or Tyler glass Nell taken in the first ten rounds ever. It's not gonna happen in an auction. They might come up and you have to be ready. And sometimes that reminds you that they're available. One of the things I like about an auction it in a way is like, oh, I forgot about this guy, but he's being bid on right now so I can go the extra dollar. Right? Do you have to do that? You will never have that situation where, yeah, you're on the twenty first round of a draft. You mistakenly scratched a name off and you're like, oh, man, I totally forgot he was there. You're right. You have a chance to bid. Joey says, I need wins this weekend, Brad Keller at Daniel harsh on Sunday, who has the better chance of getting me a w. Keller in Arsim. I'm taking Taylor. I'll take Keller Bill writes seen on Twitter as well, who is better over the next five seasons out of modesty or voguish. Schett's. Wow. Voguish that's still in the minors. Yeah. How. How question because. How's he still in the minors? Gee, I wonder. No, no, no, no. I know why he's still in the minors. I'm just saying, like by this time next year, Bovis shut is going to be a big name and fantasy. I think. Yep. Now he might end up being the ends. We Swanson in the majors, but he also might be bregman might be in between. Mine is see. We don't know we. He's been amazing in three months this year, but we don't know for sure. Pick one over the next five seasons who's going to be for fans and. This is the questions relevant for this reason alone and that is that the playing time absolutely matters. I'm still taking Bischette. For five years, but you might be getting four them? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's a superior player. I think. Of course he is, but we're talking fantasy baseball. Yup. One of these guys shot the steal fifty bases in his ship. That's all I'm saying. I don't think look, we're not asking you with a better player is in real life. This is an assembly. This is fantasy purposes right now. We already know that modesty can play. We don't know about, but like I said, but chicopee Swanson I'm taking. I'm. Hey, I don't know. You see, that's the thing. Like I believe that the number I was going to come up with in the overall was one twenty-five, which means he's he's not far off the top hundred threshold you're talking about, but he is a very flawed player. He's, I mean, for example, trade centers of superior player to him and fantasy and the real game, and it's not a, it's not a contest. That is all for today. Show is the music's winding down. We thank you so much for listening to the fantasy focus. Not only today, not only this week, but for however much of the season. You have fantasy focus baseball. We know you have other options including with football, where they do the fantasy focus football every day. Please listen to that as well. 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Boring But Successful?

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Boring But Successful?

"Hi there. Julie Foudy here. Use was silly enough to give me the green light on a podcast, and it's called laughter. Permitted. We talk to these awesome trailblazers in sports about the joy and chaos of life such as Kerri Walsh Jennings Simone, byles Mia Hamm, so gig. Comfortable loose, zoom Rafter permitted. And so it's best singing support for laughter. Permitted comes from ally. You and settle for a two star spin class a personal trainer, would you? So why settle for Bank that treats you just like another number? Ally knows you deserve better and their mission is to be just that. And with ally Bank. You'll get interest rates up to twenty times the national average you can chat with real people twenty four seven, and they won't nutmeg you with hidden fees allies team actually cares about doing right by you and your money so go to A L L Y dot com for more ally Bank, member FDIC. This is the fantasy focus baseball podcast here, your hosts, Tristan cockroach, and Eric era bell. That's right. This is the fantasy focus baseball for Monday, April twenty ninth two thousand nine nineteen nine. He is Tristan also known as the best fantasy player on the planet. I am merely. Eric and pushing all the right buttons today and handling the hash. Browns is our own. Are you start young and talented Kyle soppe? You know, you guys don't know who are you start is. But most everyone else in the world who watches game of thrones does anyway on today show before the PIN fantasy staff gathers and be called Bristol Connecticut for the annual fantasy football summit. That's why we'll all be together tomorrow, and we'll do the show together in person on Thursday. If they let us we will talk highlights and lowlights from a busy weekend today, including more than one prospect debut in more than one plus pitchers watch this week closers column, meals, vampire and myriad has Brown's tristen. Hope you had a good weekend. I had a good weekend. And I know who aria stark is because. Thanks a lot y'all for keeping me off social media because this is like a spoiler, fiesta, everyone stop it. You're never going to watch. I am going to watch. I look I'm I'm still gonna watch despite spoilers. I have an idea of several of the major events that have happened in this series. But I don't think I've ever seen a show more spoiled on their hours, you wouldn't need to watch. You don't have the time to watch like one show yet alone one hundred hours of his show. Well, seven years, but it's good. And Kyle's never watched a movie. So let's get to the buzz from the weekend lots of stuff to discuss. So little time so much to talk about. Anyone else? Do it. Here's the buzz. It's so much news. So little time. I was trying to remember the line again is a movie Sakala won't get the gene wilder movie one of my favorite movies as a kid. You know, what I'm talking about the Frankenstein, no trillion chocolate factory and. And he said, I don't know if you saw that. And he says so so much to do. So little time city says the inverse of it, you know, like so little time so much to do. I don't remember. Anyway, you can get in trouble mixing that that statement around. So let's think some time and so little the do. That's what I say. Google machines. Amazing. What I Google or? Yeah. I got it. That's fantastic. As a child that was an excellent movie. Yeah. I did not see pure magic. Sometimes I refused to see remakes of movies when I love the original so much, and like, I'm sure the remake would Johnny Depp was great. But I I refuse to watch. I did not like it. They changed a very integral part of that story that really irks me. Well, we don't want you to be irked because you win leaves? And if you're not win your leaks, you'd be ERC to if you saw what I was talking about maybe someday, I'll watch CARA having all these stuff Saturday issues. Well, I watched the replay. Were you watch game of thrones? You'll watch before he makes it all the way through. Yeah. Nobody can. I'm going to watch it. I watch it. We'll be like eighty five and we'll be discussing it. Then I'll take my teeth out. Guerrero debuted in Toronto this weekend. And he's batting only two fifty. So just caught him in all your leagues. Did. We learn anything from this. I mean, they moved them up to clean up in the batting order. So that was or did he hit third? I think he batted fourth and smoke it second, which I thought was a little bit odd. But anyway, your thoughts on Vlad from the weekend anything there or I mean, he should be active and all your leagues anyway, he should be. Yeah. And look I hit all three games. Okay. Great. There was somewhat not full debut weekend. But I don't think there was really much of a takeaway here other than as you said the lineup positioning fifth yesterday. Now, I think he's going to be a part of the order guy. He'll he'll probably hit cleanup most often for the remainder of the year Hilo him. And as who we think is pretty similar to flat in the ability to hit a baseball. Well on the Angeles Friday, he went into a wall don't run into walks walls kids high right ankle sprain. It's. A couple of weeks. So now, obviously, we don't think they're going to end up with the same number because what I was gonna hit more for the rest of the season. Boy, what would you do with Illinois? I if you're in an ESPN standard, you make any case to keep them rostered. Or are you just moving on what? Well, I I'm gonna note. I do think he is a noticeable step beneath Vlad I do think Eli is an exceptional young talent. However, but I think there's going to be a difference in specifically about batting average in our game. Just because of the one deal spot. Well, I'm sorry. I l injured list injured list. I gotta get that in my head because of that one spot in the three bench spots. I don't think you have the room to keep Iloilo's Jimenez around for for the length of time. It's gonna take for him to come back. I don't think you can really wait on any guy who's not one of say the top twenty five maybe the top fifty overall players unless you just don't have somebody else who was hurt on your roster. If if it's anything deeper, and if you have anything more than one I'll spot if it's a dynasty or dynasty league. Especially come on. You're keeping them around rest of the season Jimenez or Carter, boom. It's a fair question. Oh, yes. That is a fair question. It's going to be Aloi Jimenez. But I do like Mr. earthy entering caboose. Boo. Are you? Sure, you sure here. I am because so the nationals on Friday called up. Keyboard KYW, boom. I don't know what has. Come on. Fitter families in the stands. It's beautiful story. And now he's playing regularly at shortstop, which is should he's better than Wilmer Defoe. But when trade Turner comes back in maybe three weeks does Brian dozer sit or does go back to key miners. What do you think happens here? And what is key boom is a prospect for fantasy. He's not a base stealer. But he's a guy should put the ball in play twenty homerun possibility here to seventy five this seems like an inch. It's like Louis orients with a bit more pop. Orients with a bit more pop. Oh. Somehow, my brain says that's a harsh judgment of him. Why the horse? I we love Oreos don't. No, no. We don't our testing Huron guessing, you're with more pop because I view those guys. Similarly, none of those hitters still basis, but they all hit for average. Either. Well, it's caboose twenty two eight homers and steals. Yeah. Good walk rate. I think he's got pretty decent contact. That's probably going to be a little iffy in the initial stages. Right. But I think he's the ceiling is is for me better than it is for and is it better than hero. Maybe not I'm a big hero fan. So I like the where you're going with that. I just I think he's here for the short term. I can't really get excited. So I love the name, and I love doing my little Bugs Bunny throwback because you know, he's better than does. Don't you think they would play Kibo overdose? Or a second base. You're with me on dosier versus caboose. Now. I'm just saying I mean, I you're a dosier fan, and I'm not I mean, it's been fan. You know? I was never I'm hunter dosier not Brian Ryan to our I named my Raina Brian goes for two years now, I don't want them on my teams now, and I'm pretty sure I didn't back in March. But if he keeps hitting the way he's hitting. They finally moved Ricky robos up in the lineup. I'm just saying I they'll they'll move on from those or quickly to play Cuban second base on that deal, by the way. What's that? How many years are on that deal? I thought it was a two year wasn't it. I mean, it's kind of a one year. I got a little I think it was a two year. Okay. Okay. This is a one year. I guess the second one was a an option. So I we're talking a lot Fernando said sees it was painful watching him do the split yesterday like normal people can't do that. I'd be out for four months, but he might play this week, and he might not he's a hamstring. So it's not a groin injury. That's a good sign. But it's so we're talking Monday morning if it Monday at five pm eastern time, we still don't know of too is going to be active for the next couple of days. You sit him in a weekly. Oh without question. There's no way he's in my lineup in a weekly league this week get a glowing endorsement, I mean that was that was painful to watch and I don't want to mess with hamstring injuries. You don't risk it. And you don't risk it with a player so young as this is so integral to your team's future. You just can't. So for what we know. Now, I've got to teach junior and my losing vampire team. Would you sit him this week currently? Yes, absolutely for Willie 'Damas. That's my only other option. I mean, I'm not saying this is the thing. I'm not excited about that. I will I'm going to defend that with the schedule a little bit. And that is that Tampa has got a great schedule. Yes. They have a fantastic schedule all around both sides hitting pitching. And the other thing too is having a dodger series coming up in the weekend for not. So let's say, for example. He does miss a couple of games early in the week. It's tough pitching late. I'll sit him. I convinced me heartbreak for my team again. It's a five time, which means I don't get the vampire player from Sean Rozelle's. It was really lucky like one or two base hits would have decided that to fifty three batting average too. But of course, you win again who who are you stealing? You know, my opponent this week benched. Alex bregman Blake Snell N Jacob degrom. And yeah, I know the injury things came into play in the pitchers cases. But he did the specifically to avoid me stealing any of those three guys. So my my tough choice was down between Eddie Rosario and Tommy FAM, I'm number the number one seed in the playoffs without having Neria terrific. He's you're unbelievable man wins in April that which I mean, I can't possibly have expected that I was hoping that you're on the list you you've won was every week. I can't even be friends with you. All right. So what you take was the choice that you'll resort owned fam- for the rest of the earn appoints league. Who would well in appoints league? It's rosario. Yeah. Yeah. In a row, I might take fan because you can still twenty bays. Yes. But fam- can walk. I do too. I was more likely to play hundred fifty games to me. It's rosario. So Kyle writes in the note is Tristan the patriots fear him talent level in the Rosser. Underwhelming kyle. I'm gonna get along for long like the best team in the league. If you keep stealing. Everybody's players Kyle. I'm gonna get you for that. You you. You know, call them is. Oh, great. Let's know had ten home runs and three hundred ninety four career games entering the season seven. I think baseball me talk about using the orange or players. How about yours baseball? Hey, let's Stella in his defense launch angle change. Yeah. Did something different. So give him credit most. Atlas for batteries briefly here. I assume that was on one hundred dollars number one to white Smith. You don't want him Christian Walker? Josh Rettig Carter could booms already number five. Andy says there's a launch angle guy landed yet it is going to twenty five home runs. I think I have a lot of teams. Yeah. The the raise did see something and that was signalled by that trade. It didn't make sense on paper. They had to believe they could make enough of an adjustment that he put the ball over the fence. And it's kind of in the Christian yelich thing where it's an extreme ground ball guy where they're getting them to connect on his pitches. So far so good most dropped and wreaking Hernandez had a bad week as his argument zenia playing anymore. They're playing her themes. How I yeah. And they just how quickly the brewers stopped playing. He's so yeah, I would drop not gonna play him. But I still where he he's going to be heard from. But like if you're adding Christian Walker, Luke void guys. Like that for sure. Yeah. You should do it. You had to do it people dropping pro far. That's interesting. Illinois, obviously being dropped. Nobody has any patients Malcolm Smith can still steal forty bases. People. I don't know why you drop them. I think people can't absorb the batting average on base percentage hit. I think it's simply that and have been disappointed in what I've seen in Alex Smith, so far, but you can't give away stolen bases like that. And our favorite player Williams s to deal with a hamstring injury. How did he even hurt a hamstring isn't run fast enough? I replace them in a bunch of leagues, and I wasn't pleased to do so drop higher league. Yeah. I haven't been part to combo meals. That's next here. To manderson Christian yelich Wilson contraire of all people and want soda one sorta will someday when an MVP he will. I like I can see him. I could see him one day hitting three twenty five with forty home runs doing what yelich last year want. Soto can do a yelich did last year. Well, not like first-half second half. But like overall he's that good. Your were talking strictly the numbers, not the style of play involved. But I mean, yeah, having that huge explosion kind of year. Absolutely. I could see that by the way. Knucklehead Wilson, contrary us on that steal a home. Did you see that play? I mean, but all that really matters from that games the tower shower pitched and had adult and one and scored the winning run. Yeah. He's just he does that rare actually. But actually, I think it is rare. It's just that. It's happened twice within the past calendar year. That's incredible, Tim Anderson. Gimme his final numbers because this is. You know? I did we did. I updated my rankings like a week ago. I didn't have to manage in my top fifty. I don't see how I can. But all y'all with you. But his numbers tell us there's something special going on here. So like, what would give me numbers for Tim Anderson? Like, really, what is what is realistic because I feel like he did this kind of last year. Didn't he and then he stopped doing it? He he did. Now, I'm going to point out that one thing that is not marrying last year. He is not walking and the plate discipline has not been all that improved. Yeah. He's making a little bit more contact. But I would say that he is not showing us anything special, and I'm digging up the two thousand eighteen line and spitting it right back at you. I mean, he has I'm not saying don't you spit in nice way. I'm not saying I'm buying. He has a four forty eight Bab. So he could drop one hundred and fifty points off his batting average the rest of the season two walks in twenty two games. I you got to sell I'm gonna say you dump them. But you've got a trade. Tim interested in your leagues people. I will geeky stat it up. Just to tell people what I'm getting at thinking he stat of the day freakout. Eric, you know, I love the chase rate. The chase rate is the percentage of times the player swings at a pitch outside the rulebook strike zone last year. He did it forty percent of the time this year forty six percent. It is increased. Yeah. This is seems obvious to me that nobody can keep going like this. But he has five homers and ten steals. So if two minutes and ended up with like twenty four homers and thirty steals and batted two forty let's like a pumped up in Desmond year that can happen to me Anderson can do that he can keep running even if he's not getting on baseline final five months. I'm more concerned about the steals than I am the homers. I like where you're going with that in that ballpark. But I don't think the steals can come if he walks this infrequently when the Bab regresses it's going to be harsh. All right, everybody. This is your official reminder that mother's day is Sunday may twelfth. And we're letting you know ahead of time. So you don't have any excuses. If you're rushing for a gift at the last minute, make your mom, proud and show her you care for something. Sweet and unique. And if you're like us and wondering what you should get. Or any of the moms in your life and head over to edible dot com. And check out some of the options. These folks have edible arrangements can make anything from chocolate. Strawberry boxes, all the way to handcrafted fruit arrangements. They're delicious easy to share. And they bring people together and not to mention edible only uses high quality ingredients. So no matter what you get. 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He didn't get Sundays, but he got Saturdays and those guys pitching the eighth. That's what I thought. Okay. Now, it's something going on. I think it's gone. I don't think it's a three man committee where it's going to be entirely match ups. And unfortunately that does mean because of the lesser number of lefties in baseball, including the hitting side, everybody talks about the pitching Alvarado's going to have a very difficult time finding himself in the last out of the ninth. I see where you're going with begun. There will be saved. But I think Steve's a better pitcher so Tampa Bay's got three guys in a committee. What do you call team's bullpen with? Nobody. That's in the committee have out those Atlanta Braves right now, I ate a minute was terrible and Saturday. He's been terrible most of the season. And then on Sunday he gives up a couple of hits and gets pulled for Luke Jackson of all people. I guess minsters next up. But man, they gotta do something because minter's just bad right now. So they're gonna make the call the correct kimbrel. But even if they do still another month, he's not ready. So I guess I'm one on the acting U is would you rather roster right now, AJ mentor or Amelia Pagon? You have one spot. Yeah. I think in this case, it's a very it's a simple and strong case to be made for pagan. He'll just pitch better. I don't think anybody's in this position. I think the only place in which anybody could be in. This position is say a twelve team mix not even our standard game. I think these both are gonna wind up right at the cotton the ten teams that means my swap 'em mentor is not on the most drop list. And that's not even been dropped at all. I don't understand that at all non nothing. I would drop him. He's clear closer for now. Unless it's Lou Jackson campy. It's be rostered in something like thirty to thirty five percent of leagues. Anyway, he just his movement hasn't changed over the past week at all which is incredible. I mean, like the obvious guys are being dropped Cody, Alan Matt Barnes. He's not closing the clerk who probably still Texas closer. But didn't get a safe chance. Nobody on Texas did in the past week because I kept winning by too much. Oh, you're not gonna being dropped. I'll give you the theory on on. Why mentors not being dropped the Braves also? And it's only on the pitching side really here. Having extrordinary schedule mentor has to step up this week. This is make or break week and Jeremy Jeffers of Milwaukee does not good. So I guess it's Josh hater alone. I guess. Yeah. I mean, it's one game. He's pitched at a five I believe it is with the lead. He hasn't pitched in the ninth yet Jefferson and that was a bad bad setback. When it's the first time you're putting a game where you have a lead. And you know, you need to lock things down briefly some stuff from Sunday Rinaldo Lopez fourteen strikeouts over succeeding 's that's quite a performance, not efficient. But it's a lot of strikeouts is passed realities have been good against bad offenses this first reactions were bad against good offenses. What is rain auto? Lopez is the guy you stash away to later or do you just ignore? I don't know that I could put him comfortably in either. I think he's perhaps a I don't think I could even say he's a streamer. I'm not sure as a streamer, I don't even know what I could define him as because I can't predict when I'm going to be able to use them velocity is down a little bit that came up in one of my early April reports when I was trying to do the velocity comparisons. And then all of a sudden he he jumps right back with a lot more electric stuff in that one game. It's almost as if he's the less appealing version of Chris sale. You just really don't know what you're gonna get so feel free take a flyer. But I don't I don't feel comfortable starting him. I mean, do you yet? No, not at all. But I thought the question needed to be asked. I think it's a very valid question. I it's a it's a great first step of twenty nine thousand nine hundred Rinaldo Lopez versus Zach eflin don't you have the exact Aplin, although he was good yesterday. But he wasn't good in previous outing. So I don't really know what to make him. But I'd say, you're right. I think it's eflin and national. Versus American League has a bit of a weight. There hunter Pence any interest at all homered knocked in four yesterday's hitting. He's doing well. And he is playing like really calendar was never gonna play. Like, if you if you were offering Willie Calhoun, and we can sign at that. But like, maybe he doesn't deserve. It not every prospect makes it in fact, like eight out of ten prospects. Don't become top hundred fantasy players is that fair like eight out of ten hitters that we think are top fantasy prospects. I'll bet people listening to say that's crazy to throw that number at it. But the truth is I think that a lot of the guys who do make it aren't in that prospect bucket in the first place. So you're probably right on if you take just like the top hundred prospects listed, the the rate of failure is extremely high. Calhoun? Let's get back to Pence. I've seen some interesting stuff from and I would be on board. If the league is deep enough in our game. No way. I just I don't think the role is firm enough for him Eric Sogard sitting well people routing him. That's probably mistake. I'd rather Stelle. Although I really wouldn't rather at either one right? Like, I would agree with that any other pitchers that are being added anybody that did anything yesterday. John means I guess we'll get to that. As we preview. Well, we compete with the week right now John means the to start started this week. I've ignored him. I did not bid anything on them. He's a Baltimore pitcher. That's all I need to know. But do you like John means he means anything to you, not really? But he did catch my eye for the to start matchups just because they are favorable enough. And he has pitched well enough means strength was good control in the minors. I really have nothing else for you to back him up. So if you're if you're rolling the dice because you need volume. Okay. I'd rather have Mike saroka this week. Oh, yeah. But he's he's long gone. He's not long. Grown. He's available and a lot of leaks. Thirty thirty percent. He's Rosser and thirty percent not available thirty who's the guy in the Braves who I put down roster. Let me look I wanna make sure I'm not wrong here. I could be wrong. I to that's why I remember one was one was at thirty. I remember sirocco Rosser and twenty two point seven percent. Oh, wow. That's a that's a slam dunk readily available. Yeah. I mean, the pitchers that are on the most added Liz means Caleb Smith, Luke Weaver, damigella, her mind, Frankie, montage sirocco, Mike minor. Wow. Did you see that Mike mine around? And do we have to start buying Mike minor this ridiculous? Yeah. We actually brought them under a couple of times on the show. I kept I kept saying no, it doesn't. I mean. He's a Texas. Rangers pitcher who doesn't have an elite strikeout rate. So I get it. But he's pitched very effectively for a year and a month. It's a Monday on ESPN. You can catch the ethics and the Red Sox Frankie montage and Edwato Rodriguez and Iran has pitch better of late, and he should be the guy. Maybe the guy that we a lot of us think he can be. Sack Davies and Kyle freelance across Socratic Furlan comes off the injured list of face, Milwaukee yellow might not play left after games with back spasms, but freely a guy I think we would agree with that. At least. At least. Well, I mean what he did last year might have been a bit too much. But gimme a threshold remove the wins. Yeah. But he had threshold number top fifty cloud-free Linda top fifty starting pitcher fantasy. Okay. I mean, I don't want to say top twenty a lot of people would I think you're right out the seventeen wins and Kyle freely and can eat should easily be a top fifty store. I mean, he should be in the thirties. Yeah. I mean, you know, I don't typically like an invest a lot in players like this. But I think I think you've got the right number there. I think he can get in the top fifty ESPN plus has the opener Ryan Stanek against the ace Brad Keller cities as now Tim today. We've got a note Yanni chair knows he will pitch in this game. Right. You're going to be the five inning guy from inning two to six. And then he will probably also do it again if not start game during the weekend. I love Yanni chair this week. Yeah. I agree. He's a very good pitcher just act of it in my simply to Tuesday again. No day games. Come on give us one day game. Everyday. Please not that we can watch it since we'll be at the fantasy football. Summit on my phone ESPN plus late at night as Walker. Bueller? And drew Pomeranz. What do you think of Walker? Bueller? Top twenty starter still or are you like fading a little? I'm fading a little because this feels like the typical young pitcher adjustment period. But I absolutely love his stuff. The only concern I ever had about bueller. Breaking into the majors was the durability question. And I don't think that's what's being raised at the beginning of the year. So I am a Bilo guy. Are you having Griffin canning for the week? He's an angels top prospect could Mahinda star. But not expected to be an ace by any means. He's like a mid rotation guy supposed to start Tuesday against Toronto against lad. It's at home, I advise somebody on Twitter to not add canning and dump. I can't remember who they wanted to dumb. It might have been Stephen Matt's. Again. I keep telling everybody I I like and he pitch well against weekend. But canning is he what do you do with starting pitchers that are minor leaguers, we know to activate Vlad and Ted teas and guys like that. Do you activate starting pitchers right away or do you? Wait, the context matters here in our game. No, not a chance. I will point out that my research in the past it showed that the debut in pitcher, especially the more, you know, the most. Ones. Do get an advantage against hitters. The problem that they face is other than the initial debut jitters, the nervous nervousness, we've seen with a couple of cases. They don't go deep into games. So I see where you're going at with, you know, advising not to pick them up and start him. But he has been great with the command and AAA I am interested here if it's a fifteen plus team mixed if it's an ale only I will add and start him Wednesday bunch of day games ESPN. Plus at night has Anthony just flying Di Sclafani and Jake degrom. ESPN TV at night has Houston. Minnesota column. Mchugh Martin Perez McCue, you should want to have active even though Minnesota. It's a lot of home runs and McCue gave up a lot in his last outing. Jake degrom versus Chris sale. I kind of touched on this on my blog entry today. Maybe it's up. What do you do here? Like the grams issue he was bad on Friday night against Milwaukee. And I think that elbow still barking to use a word the Mets us because they don't know what the real word is and sale is owned five. Although he pitch fine yesterday. Like, I still buy low and both don't you? I mean, he pitched fine sailed it with the final line, but it was a very Radic outing, which is that start actually defined the entirety of his year. So I don't wanna I don't wanna hang my head in that being a good step forward for him. I'm going to grow. I'm here. I'm trusting what Stephania bell set on the last show. She said it was okay. I feel great. I'm sure it a log. Oh, fantastic. Degrom by the way, I'd love to see him get a routine in here where he has been dealing with a lot of tough weather in the New York area. So far at this point in the year. I'd like to see him just get on a regular routine already because I think he'll be great. I agree. All right coming over to this. The great hash Browns as we will see suburban garden gnome. Kathleen Cassidy without studying it he notices it moves like and also tool it's inanimate and utterly without brain function. But despite that when it got no me his about how gyco not only saves people money, but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone. It's clear to them. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to Geico is. A no brainer on second thought. Maybe don't garden gnomes to carefully. People might talk. All right Kyle. I'm sure there are myriad questions. Let's get some answers. We actually got a few Domingo's. Her minds ex wondering what his ceiling is we've seen great production. But the competitions been lackluster this. It's all you Tristan easy. Yankee does he? Well, does he continue to pitch? Well. And does he stick around in the rotation? Just like Carter cable. I don't know. There's no decision that I made in a draft this preseason that I was more angry at myself over and immediately than letting Domingo's her mongo in ale only labor so annoyed about it. Because I wrote I believe it was the king's command column that he misses bats. And that's a skill that can play and that's what we've seen so far from him. So I do by. I think that and he looks like he's locked into the rotation. I think the upside is potentially that of a top thirty starter. That's the ceiling with your lead in ale labor is like twenty points, or is it thirty. Or is it only down ten actually I didn't check my morning update. But I was in second place yesterday, but I've been hovering between five six you're winning the office lead. You're winning the vampire league because earlier not like in the top three. Yes. My points league. The one more have allowed the most points by leaps and bounds. I'm one two and one. How awful. I was out to in one last week. How are you? Oh, two in one in one week. All right. So I'll give you honesty on this one. I have the nineteen local NL only I have I'm in last place. So you're one of your kids drafted team. No, I did I, but I actually I've got everybody who started slowly if they're you know, I went with the all hitting no pitching thing. And every hitter that I took is every National League hitter office low star. You know, I gotta say an office league. I got the same thing going on like I have a really good offense just has not hit at all. And then I've got a couple of cubs. A couple of Red Sox pitchers, and that'll do it for the you know, my year as like still over six I wanna see who you have on here. I'll bet the same players. They might be. I mean like, it's not a bad team. It's not going to win. Okay. I understand that. But I don't think this team. Hearst your team with the name. That's one thing. Why did I? Well. I called the team. Yuck. Well because during the draft actually I liked this offense. Like, I know you told me not to take Travis Shaw. But I liked him. I liked Benintendi. I hit right on Domingo's, Santana nNcholas castle. Honest, people were angry on Twitter. They want to drop them. I don't think that's a good idea. I really don't the common thread. We have on that end. Only team is Matt carpenter and is no ram cutting him. Yeah. Look what happened last year people like a lot of these guys are going to get hot. I got Aggie lar- trying to my move on from. That's just that's just different. That's my worst hitter. Right. Well, that was my were my the one the cheapest guy at the end among my offense. I always go. Well, other than my catcher, I was going nuts for offense and just avenue. It hasn't panned out this pitching staff. All right. I'm getting Desmond too. Yeah. I'm with you on also cheese. Genius interesting. He can put all the bed picks on one team. So it doesn't sour multiple. Oh, get you. Get you. A weird. What's nice? Ricky's wondering which of these young pitchers can be an ace over the next three seasons. He's got four guys. He likes must growth paddock glass now or Sorocca. All yes. All of them sold easy answer. Who's? Rank them for him. But I think and when we say as what does that mean that means top twenty to me to me? Let's go top ten number one pitcher in a ten team league who can beat that leader of your fantasy stuff. I don't think any of these guys are going to be top ten starters. Let's split the difference. Fifteen because there are fifteen Tim mix, sir. I will rank them for the next three seasons. Paddock glass now must gropes Arocca and sirocco last because of the shoulder concerns from last year. That's the only reason. But so I'll go paddock one glass now to most growth three sirocco for. Odiaun? I I have a difficult time disagreeing with your order. I I might go glass now over paddock I feel a little bit safer in the durability in volume coming from Glasgow because of paddocks Tommy, John surgery, and the limited pro innings. I don't think I don't think much groves ceiling is in the top fifteen. Really? I don't I think he'll be consistent twenty twenty-five in the, you know, the best case is that for the next agree. And I was watching that game against the dodgers over the weekend. He was rolling along. And then it's like one bad inning. And he was left into long to that was the other thing about that. Any? I don't know. I pitchers arms. Don't just fall off when they hit their one hundredth pitch. It's not like that at ninety nine pitches. They're fun at one hundred they're bad. No Andrews continue to manage this way. But must grove like win that inning was going on. It was like the seventh. I was like I'll get them out and get them out. It was too late. But I like my growth, he probably I mean, I would say right now I'd rather have glass now, then must grow them. Paddock arocca. But it's close I want to really the shoot for the moon guy. I would love to just say it's paddock here and be done with it. But it feels like we have hate here for saroka. Do you agree that that the worry is it's it's the durability. Yeah. Yeah. They have a million starters the show. It's a shoulder. That's like I feel better about the guy coming back from Tommy John. Then I do the guy coming back from the shoulder issues. Yeah. No. I I agree with that. Paddock paddock by the way, the combo beneath beneath between the first of all the changeups great. But the the the lightning stuff versus the change of pace. I love that balance for paddock. Then the ballpark that helps to help by the way, everyone this show is sponsored by the fine folks at seek ticket industry has not changed in a long time. There are bunch of big companies who have been around forever, but they don't really care about making the experience easier for the customer seeking does seek is a ticket company where the customer comes first with more than fifty thousand five-star reviews in the app store. Seek is focused on making. Your experience as easy as possible seek pulls in millions of tickets from all over the web, and they rate each deal on a scale of one to ten display them on interactive seat map. So it's simple define what you're looking for green. 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That's our friend of the show. Luke Martin who loves all the fantasy focus podcast. I believe. Right. Yep. Jason heyward. Why why are we getting sucked in it? Basically. He has a good start to a season. And we're left to decide if something has changed is he hitting more fly balls is he more likely to keep stealing basis because he didn't steal basis ever. Right. And well used to obviously. But I mean ever in the past two years still like one base last year or something crazy like that? And he had a full season. He didn't have any power. Oh my goodness. I'm looking at his numbers. Now. I now the thing that jumps out to me seventeen walks versus twelve strike. That's the thing. This is not like all Babbitt fueled. In fact, not fueled at all no, it's not this is a guy who is taking pitches. Swing at the right pitches and deciding the steel basis and the five home runs is nice too. Although I don't think he's hit maybe one in the past like two or three weeks. So, but I don't really wanna buy. I don't think Jason Hayward's going to end up top fifties fantasy outfielder to you. Fifty would have to end up hitting close to three hundred because we don't think he's hitting twenty home runs or stealing fifteen basis. So he would have to have a Nick Marquette's type season with the batting average in order to be a top fifty outfitter. I think right. But but marquess did that it's and that's a great comparible example of the path to get there. It's the boring path to the top fifty. I'm good with cops. Like that you notice that like on these shows like I never think about it beforehand off the top of your head. It's amazing. I think about them and can't get them as good as I never think of Jason Heyward. But when I'm looking at potential numbers, I'm like that could be more cake as well though. He can't knock in ninety runs. But like what's the best Hayward could do like fifteen homers, sixty RBI twelve steals three hundred guessing three hundred keeps walking. But no, Luke, I I don't know who's available in your league. But let's look at the outfit for Alfred is being added and dropped it's going to be somebody you'd rather. Dwight Smith junior is not that guy. Josh Radic, probably is. But he doesn't play enough games. Scoring rettig. I think it's close. I live Brett Gardner. That's a low batting average guy. But same power and steals, right? No hit third for lunch longer when the players back amick gardeners going to gardeners going to beat Hayward. I mean, obviously injury things, but whatever he's going to have more. Steve don't see a lot of players here on this. Most added list outfield that I would rather have inhaled Hayward. And that's not because I love Hayward's like co Kowloon Verduga doesn't play enough. Eric fame's? No, Danny Santana. We've been over. I like your theory of marquess a lot. It is not the player comp. It is the way that you get to the outcome. I like where you are going. Why are you giving up on that? What is the best case for for Hayward? If he has figured it out enough that he's making the elite contact because that's all it is. And that walk in strike a numbers the underlying numbers don't support them to an extreme. They are a little improved in terms of the chase rate. There are a little bit improved in terms of the contact rate. But he's been going in that direction anyway, so three hundred and twenty. I would say it's the best case scenario. But if this guy's a two eighty let's say from today, forty bets to eighty-five he hits you eleven more home runs a steals. Your six bases. Are you really going to complain about it? No. But he's not fun. He's not fun roster. Marquette will win you a league without being fun. Last year's Marquez can do that especially in points things leaning in that direction, and Jason Hayward's gonna have a lot of Al you in that format comparative to wrote them. All right. What's next? We've got two more questions. Trae wants to know what to pitching statistics you hone in on trying to evaluate a pitcher in the early going. Strike up percentage is actually better than k nine. So I do look at that. I'm looking at walks. Fly ball rate to some degree for giving up home runs. It's hard for me to invest unless they're all solos Tristan. Would he look at? I would say the two you haven't mentioned are swinging strike rate tied rate as you mentioned. And I also think at this stage since you added that little tack on philosophy. Yeah. I'm looking for velocity changes. I'm looking for like what is a pitcher doing different than they did in the past. Like, I did this with Joe Moscow two weeks ago. Why is why all working why is it? Not allowing home runs is he throwing his pitches differently. I did this with raise glazed when his slider was going slower than it used to. And then the next outing. Of course, it was faster. I do this with a lot of change. Because Brian we talked about last week. He's still hitting okay to the opposite field, but can't pull anything. So. But like swings right percentage. And as Tristan minted I and I mentioned the strikeout I wanna see strikeouts. But I wanna see velocity changes any pitchers off the top of your head with like velocity changes that we need to know the still have enough sample for two I got, you know, and I'll dig up a comparative thing today. No, I mean, I don't wanna hold like put you on the spot. I I'm just trying to like Lopez was one of the ones on my originalist. Chris sale was one that I had originally on the list are there was oh who was the guy who at the velocity increase that. I like nothing's changed with Mike minor from last year, which is why I have a really hard time buying because he's a veteran. Oh, he was fine. He was usable. He was not was he a tough fifty star last year. Probably not. I mean, if you take winds up, but he didn't win a lot of games. Did he look at his numbers? I I don't think like he got there. But he might have his ear Ray was so high and he won only he won twelve games era was over four. Now is whip was good. But that was not a lot of strikeouts. He didn't the only may twentieth. Starts pitchers. No, Jason Heyward. A pitchers would be a guy who. You can't do that. Because like pitchers and hurts you were haters can't unless it's Joey gallivanting pitcher gets you to the finish line by being boring. I guess minor. Does that in a way? I when I think of boring among starting pitchers. He's not the name that comes to mind used to be my guy. Yeah. He was born boring until later. Jamie moyer. Sure, all I dime. If you put them in a game, he gives you for innings. There's two guys jump to mind to me one. Is that Kathleen because I don't think he's going to be a big strikeout guy, you know, who's boring but effective until his last night. And Trevor Williams is a guy. I don't want to argue like we did last show. But he's he's boring, but effective I mean, I cough and eflin could be that guy for the Phillies. I think maybe Wade Miley could be like burly, it's no strikeouts people. But right like he's going to have a good era in whip Wade Miley. I kind of Zach Davies they're both going to be like three seventy five year. A I think that's boring but effective Kyle. That's like, hey word. I guess I don't remember who asked it because it's not on your list here. But somebody had asked us about miles. Michael's good or just not. In my no is he any good. Or was last year. The best season we see by far from him. This is the Trevor Williams lesson miles, Michael assists, the Trevor Williams lesson. These guys do have a good amount of value. But when it falls apart at falls part part. But do you think Michael this is falling apart? I don't think that it's no rubbing alert. But but when things slip for the guys who don't miss bats. They fall hard. It's not, you know. I mean, there's nothing to hang your hat on all with these players when things are not going. Well, it's the Matt Cain thing. Matt Cain when Matt Cain stopped performing. He fell off a cliff. That's the reason. Those guys scare me your old remember back. Hey, I went back in time. I built a time machine that was what I was up to this weekend. You'd like to use the raven is to look back. Now what you're talking about. Let's get a couple. Of course, we're going to last one here Bill you guys talked about Yandi D as earlier in the show. He wants to know what his best season of career looks like he's invested in a keeper league. Oh, jeez. Love Hannity is. Three hundred twenty five home runs or is that not high enough of the ceiling for him? I don't wanna get too crazy. I the reason why I like reason why I'm so happy about the ones I hit on like Yandi DA's and Domingo's Santana. Not because they're gonna end up is like top fifty fantasy hitters although they might just because I was able to get them in deep leagues like the Christian Walker thing like I didn't draft him in ten team standard. But I got him in like a twelve team and only that's what excites me is getting a player like Yanni D as in a really deep league. Because other people are taking Jason Heyward. I I would rather take a shot on a guy who I really liked with upside. And Andy the looks like a legit guy like who can hit three hundred with twenty five homers this year. So I guess it's ceiling has to be high is stealing a batting title. I'm not this is a very unusual player, and he's not healing guy. Yes, he and his floors high. Like he's going to be a good player for like six or seven years Bo hits for average and some power. But you just said it his floor is high. But as ceiling might not be all that high either his ceiling might actually be very low. This guy's never had a sub fifty two percent grumble rate including this year. It's I think it's it's fifty six percent fifty six percent so far. But when it goes in the air, it's leaving now. Right. But does it now if I mentioned yellow earlier if d is is doing in Tampa, if this is a big project of theirs and you projected for it a couple of years have you seen what yelich just doing? He is actually decrease in that ground ball rate. If DNA follows that path then we have to change our long-term projections. I can't see that. Yeah. I I see Andy D as as a consistent capable twenty-five Homer. That's to ninety guy for the next couple of years, except that I don't even know that we could say either category is one that has the higher ceiling. This guy could be a three twenty hitter hits fifteen or you could be as you said to ninety who hits your home or a number or you could have more than that. You're right. No, you're you're absolutely right. And he's still vailable in almost sixty percent of ESPN leagues. Like, I would take Andy over one hundred dosier, but does your little, but those are going to have a how to fifty nine hollow. He's in about two fifty with like twenty twenty two home run d is is a very interesting project. That's that's what's great about him. See my boy, Michael shave his three homers in his first week. Yeah. I want that second base eligiblity. I added them everywhere. So I I I signed him in tout. I couldn't believe how wasn't tout how nixed seven but not yesterday eight days ago seven a thousand. Yes, that's insane. I put in like a really low bid, and I was like I'm probably not going to. Them. But like, I'm really being careful with my money. Although nobody else is and I got him for seven dollars, and that lead you have to activate them right away. And he three homers in the first week. Yeah. Not to get carried away with what is could provide for you. But but seven I mean, that's that's throwing the dart and hidden it's going to be interesting because they're getting their all second baseman back soon. So what's going to is? She was going to go to the minors. You know, by the way at third base is named Denver's Denver's defensively looks horrendous and he needs to be platoon. I bet shave his stays in the majors and platoons with him. It's because there's is horrendous defensively you, but he shouldn't be this bad. He's been bad now for a long enough sample in the majors that I am concerned about that. But like you, and I really liked them six weeks ago. And I don't want to jump off that I like that's not what we liked about him. We liked that is batting third. But even batting six or seven I thought that was going to continue to make strides. He's really young. I think good. Things are in going to happen. But like Boston canton mess around lake with this like if shave is has hit three homers a week. They gotta play him. And he's not a second basement. He's the third basement. He's not even a good third baseman. So if he keeps hitting he'll keep playing is what I'm saying. And if you've got investment endeavors, I'm not saying runaway yet, he's he's on the most droplets in the SPN leaks. He's down to seventy six percent, rostered and shave is still at like five percent. But we didn't love him because of the defense, and we did not love him because of the lineup spot. We lived ever is. Because there is an awful lot of raw on tap power. In that bat, there is only thing that's a twenty five home run guy. Who's not hitting like it? I think he's a thirty five to forty Homer guy in the future. I think in time, but he's not I thought he I thought he could have gotten a thirty homers this year, he's still can three four weeks weeks. Yeah. But I mean, I could have seen a major jump forward from coming this year, and it might might well still happen. But as you said there are there are polls in his game. There's probably a holding game. We're done for today. Thank you so much for listening to our little show. I believe it will be back on Thursday when we'll all be bucolic Bristol, Connecticut recording really early in the morning to make sure this show gets out to everybody who wants to listen to it coffee. You will drink your coffee, and I will not even coffee, and it'll just sit there lonely on the desk. It will I won't use it. I won't drink. We'll just the coffee throughout the show. Thank you so much now, we're just when we get to the wasting time portion of the show it's time to stop. Thank you interesting. And thank you to Kyle and two are your stark and everybody else who makes this show. Great. She makes this show. Great. I am Eric having awesome week. Coffee.

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"Great news. There's a quick way you can save money. Switch to Geico. Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price. And it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Go to Geico dot com today and see how much you could save. This is no fantasy focus baseball podcast here. Your hosts Tristan cockroach and Eric era. Bell are there. Welcome. It's vanished. Focus baseball for Monday morning, June seventeenth thousand nineteen I am indeed. Eric, christen Kawasaki handles the producer has browned duties today as always hope everyone enjoyed. Their Father's Day trip tonight, soon, it was a good one for you. It was a nice if we had a perfect, no rain day. But, you know, it's pretty solid had its opportunities hope it was enjoyable to yes, it was fine. What have been nice by team didn't allow fifteen runs to the Tino chasing an standings. But that's okay. That's the way things are. Hey, I'll tell you this month. Our teams have not been exactly the most stellar, by the way, quality review, call on Saturday night. But is that the review call by your manager? I've been watching a little your team this weekend. Well, everyone's gonna be watching your team because they made a big trade this weekend, we're going to get to that, and big demotion, which, you know, it's fair a little bit later on. Of course, we've got everybody slugging Dennis ridiculous. Injuries promotions condom closers mirrored has browse here's the buzz. All right. So Edwin Encarnacion is a new member of the New York Yankees. He will be the everyday designated hitter and the first tweet I got about the trade was should I drop Luke Voight? And I wanted to reply come on. It's a matter with you, but look losing any playing time but I do want your taking fan because Giancarlo Stanton comes back on Tuesday. Aaron judge could be before the all star break. And that line of is ridiculous. They're gonna have gleyber Torres batting ninth indeed Gorey's eighth. That's crazy lineup. I've never seen a lineup so deep, I know that's absurd. But, but to be fair like Voight has been batting second in doing the job. He's probably going to drop down to like fifth or six and incre Nacional has been batting third and Seattle or fourth might bat six or seven th so, but I still like Edwin more now in Yankees gear than I do in Seattle, don't you? I do. I mean it's not by leaps and bounds. But it's an improvement regardless of the moving down in the lineup thing. I mean it was gonna move down anyway, just because as you mentioned, Aaron judge, John Carlos Stanton are on the way. Back it had nothing to do with wins trade. It does create a little bit of a line of clutter problem, just because the ankles, do like to throw one of the outfielders into the D H spot, so wins gonna lose a couple of starts here and there, but he gets a ballpark bump. The bottom line is people think of Yankee Stadium as a great Homer venue for left handed hitters. It's also very good for righties to do by the way. I don't know Eric if you've looked at the park factor page here for the Enke's this year. Yankee Stadium has been quote leaning pitching friendly this season which shows by one year park factors are ridiculous. Pass five years, number three Yonki stadium. In terms of home runs for right handed, batters T mobile park. Seattle was blow average one at ranked seventeenth in that category. So it's a nice plus for him. I don't I don't look at park factors when it's just this year for two months. I do a five year early to three I usually use like three years. But, like I have a feeling I know what, which parts are good and which parts are not good for whatever we need out of him. So Edwin moves on Seattle doesn't have a reasonable replacement that anybody in fantasy would want. When it comes to Clint Frazier now, you know, he was the number forty six outfield over the past thirty days number sixty five I think for the season. So it's not like you were relying so much on him that him going to the trip. Aaa is gonna kill you. But like I view this the way I do like catching Huron and Brennan Rogers ridiculously wasn't played by his team this happens the young players. Nobody can argue that Fraser's better than Edwin and neither has defensive acumen. So what happens the Frazier now, I don't think they're going to train him anytime soon. They could he could be in Madison, Bumgarner trade or Trevor Bauer trade, I suppose, but if you've got Frazier, just move on, right? Yeah. And I think you mentioned Bauer and Bumgarner I think that's the instance in which he would get traded to another team and that's going to benefit everybody in terms of him getting regular playing time. This is just a matter of the aunties would prefer playing every day in AAA than to be playing twice. Maybe three times a week in the majors and I don't blame them for that. So he simply going to be a call up if another injury happens, and it could because of Stanton's history. I know he's been relatively healthy the previous two years before this, but his career has been full of injuries. So it's not inconceivable that Frazier could return here and be meaningful for you. But I wouldn't count on it. He's now the odd man out very clearly make sense and it does make sense. And I'm sure he's not happy. But that's the right he's not happy. Clear is not happy. You know, a lot of us weren't happy with urine Brennan riders, either. You know, I mean this is what happened the youngsters. Okay. So the Rockies Padre series if if this is what baseball is going to be like, I'm not gonna complain today show. But if this is what baseball is going to be like, we have to reevaluate how we view fantasy because I mean, we would never roster Rockies pitcher ever. Like even they're closer scored ninety two runs. And that four game series. Charlie black was fifteen out of twenty four. Is that correct? I mean he unbelievable week and power and the number two player for the week was in Desmond who still valuable in more than half VSBN's leagues. So like, do you view anything differently? I seems like the golf balls been bouncing a little bit crazy over the past couple of weeks as opposed to the first two months of the season. I don't know if the baseball is different or not. But your thoughts on this rocky series? It was fun. I don't know that there's a huge takeaway from this ad say on a rent froze. A lot better power hitter than I think many of us give credit. I'll also point out that if the baseball is traveling further. I do think it's going to have a little. Of a noticeable impact at chorus field specifically because we've been instructing over the past, especially the half decade as we dig deeper into the numbers, that course field doesn't bump up home runs it bumps up the run-scoring because of the spacious outfield gaps at the ball travelling further, this could bump up every offensive number, including the home runs. And we're gonna see more series like this. Just keep that in mind, does that something you want. I the only reason I wanted is at least, then we know we're locking in Rockies and opposing hitters at Coors field into every start every league situations. Like we did them a nineties, so we might be back to that. I just want clarity, you know, in most things that is clarity, then we know who to start and sit. We know the pictures that's what I'm saying. Like I just want just want clarity on what the situation is going to be. Baseball is gonna stay like the rest of the season for the rest of our lives, or it's going to change back after the all star break. I, I don't like going back and forth. Like, that's what that's what bothers me. I just want. I don't like when pitchers are inconsistent. I listen, I just be consistent if you're going to be averaged. That's okay. I know you know, I think that's what I crave more than anything else because then you can evaluate a player like like I've moved on from, Joey Votto, but now carpenter like people are saying, well, why aren't you moving on from him? And if the only answer I can give is look what happened last year. That's a good enough answer anymore. It's mid June, like what? My answer on what's your answer on Matt carpenter's all-star break is have you already gotten sick of them? Like what do you do with player like this who who has shown he can be a two month four month guy shown thirty home runs, but he's not showing it now. I mean one of the problems in the cases, especially auto and carpenters, just that it's context dependent in the point space leagues is a whole different approach and a certain level of patients that you don't see in the rotor leagues. I'm with you. You move on by the way. I mean, the people are going to continue to back, and I'm not one of them anymore are going to point out that he had a batting average over three hundred in the past twenty days. So he's doing something carpenter frustrating. I'm concerned about it. I probably would be more patient, like you are with him than I would be with vodka. But at some point, you gotta make a decision. No, I kept carpenter in my weekly league the deadline was last night. I just didn't see anybody else available that was better. That's, that's a lot of it. Yeah. I did add, I added the Oakland center fielder Laureano in that league and benched cast the Janos getting tired of that. Like, I don't know if there's a hash Brown today on Castanos, but I've kinda gotten tired of that. And I think part, I think, has the honest, the problem is dependent on his lineup around him. Like he just looks like every at bat not every fat, but half the bats just not come into play. But I challenge that in this has been going on for a couple of years now. So I don't know why it's exclusive to this year, I'm beginning to wonder, especially with stories coming up about the contract. And the trade rumors that surrounds that it's kind of wearing on them. I want her didn't you view. Cassie honest before this season as potential thirty hundred guy he was twenty three eighty nine last year. And you've got a two hundred eight quality contact was extraordinarily. I'm extremely disappointed. When this, you know, we, we don't really talk about Castanos the way with divide and carpenter. But it's kinda the same not eating for power is not knocking anybody 'cause nobody on base for them, not a Walker. Not gonna forever and defensively my God. Did you see that play this weekend? Like there's just nothing there. So like Laurino had a good week. I probably missed the good week and we'll get it. Anyway, lots of names get to before we move on. So I'll go briefly here. Bauer shut out the Troy is more about Bauer or the Tigers. I'm going to say that's more about Bauer but I could see the case because if you said to me who which right handed pitcher, could do it reused on for the last two and a half months. Now can do that baron had that Chris Medlen second half. Yeah. He could. Yeah. Dominant righty, who strikes, everybody out and relax tonight looks amazing. I hate saying he's going to get hurt. I think you'll fall sort of thirty starts because the dodgers, don't need him to make thirty. They have a ten game lead. But man looks site. That's the Cy Young winner. He's gonna end up like seventeen and four with a one eight year or a and win the Cy Young. That's what I think's going to happen over, like twenty eight starts to your point about the dodgers. They are considering throwing a guy in there this week. So it does signal. They're always thinking about giving extra rest of their pitchers going back to the Indians because I wrote this forecaster. I wonder whether the return of Mike cleven jer coupled with what's in outrageously? Good hitting schedule could begin to build some team wide momentum there. And if that is the case that could also be what sparks Bowers hot streak. I, I have nothing to quantify that, but what if they're like a game out of the wildcard, they're not giving up. That'd be. I'm not. Yeah. And I'm not suggesting that they would give up. It's just that this is a perfect opportunity for them to begin role in that big snowball down the hill. All right. Injuries Noah Syndergaard with a right hamstring strain. It doesn't sound too serious. They have no reasonable replacement. So I think it's only probably one week and then by next weekend, he's probably back again. You do not drop. Syndergaard in. Any league. I don't think Kyle Hendricks right shoulder inflammation. That's a little bit different. Not a leg. He goes on the injured list, they're saying with him also probably only one start if you've been relying Hendrix, you should continue to, but advert as little Alzola, young right-hander, skinny Ryan or could make his debut Corby Tyler shower for Kyle sake. But like I would like to see what he can do any thoughts on these guys LA was pretty disappointing last year. And also dealt with some injuries, but it's been a lot sharper AAA. So I think he's an interesting arm and considering out tough. It is to fill the pitching spots this year certainly worth a flyer not in our standard game. But in anything, deeper really hundred pants and no members have MRI appointments for today for leg injuries Pence's groin. Czars a hamstring. I think I'd rather roster Pence. The Missouri, wouldn't you? I know it's crazy because of his age. But as ours, having another one of those boring twenty home run seasons where the two six. Batting averages. Nobody's expect anything's going to change. Well Pez already fifteen home runs and his batting three hundred. Now they're both going on the injured list. I think Willie Calhoun will come up your thoughts here. If I said to you Pence Mazaar Willie Calhoun for the rest of the season would hurt rusher cheese. Well, that's a fair. Drop either of those guys everywhere. And that's that I've had one league. It's Chris Taylor. I couldn't get anybody else. I got outbid another league. It was outscored who did nothing last week like we'll Hoon or Penser Missouri. I think you can make the case Calhoun, here, you can I could really make the case for any of these and I would love to chase the hot streaks by the opportunity. I think my projections, I'm going gonna tell me that MS ours. I want I can completely see just take Pence and hoping it pans out not just the definition of replacement level in today's game. He's not even that. I mean twenty home runs and sixty look, we keep waiting for that guy, and I'm not blaming you recommending imprisoned his age, because of some of the underlying metrics, tell us he should be hitting thirty home runs and doing better than this. But he's not doing. This is like the fourth straight years. It's not doing it, and the metrics are all right. This year. Grumble rates still pretty high. It's not a super lead in this modern environment hard contact rate. So I've become more about no more. Massara. I do you want. Do you want to trust the Pence does stay healthy long enough for you know what? 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Last time that happened seems awfully rare to me, and Eric Fame's, who I mean he's just is not turning it around. He's thirty five home. Runs last season. And now he's available and every league amazing. It is. And they're using them pretty smartly. They worked him in here initially from the, the righty lefty platoon going on with Aguilar. And I think we're gonna see more of times if you keeps this up and yellow, just showing no signs of stopping what he's doing his, his numbers over the last, like what hundred six games like fifty something homers in two three seventy batting average, like Anne running like he doesn't even need basis. And he's doing it. It's amazing. What he's like you're. Question about the, the league leader in both categories just because we think we're still in basis were, if you flash back twenty years ago, twenty plus years ago, it would be tough to do that. Ricky Henderson didn't have a prayer of doing what was the last time? Anybody led the league in both? I, I don't know. And we got a tweet today from our friend, Tom, the internet said that yelich top three in all five of the player raider categories, that's got to be something we've never seen before this. Would not be shocked. If trout had a year where he qualified as top five. I'd have to I'm gonna I'm gonna have to dig that one up. But it's gonna take a little time. All right. Let's move it on now. And let's talk about the closers in the carousel. Cavs. Okay, who do we need to discuss here? I car knows I think so because cross Martinez got two inning. Save on Sunday. But Jordan Hicks was was warming up Martinez just didn't throw that many pitches in the eighth inning. And it was the Mets there was like no threat at the bottom there lineup. Although they had pinch hitters coming up. I thought it was a bit odd. Like, why would you have Hicks warm-up warming up? It's not like hitching a game. But like I've seen it with the Phillies like penny Schick, a warm up and that they view that as an actual outing, I don't think Hicks is losing the job. I think it's I think he's still there closer, the now one of the things that makes me curious about Martinez, is that I know he has said and I do believe the cardinals have given hint to this that it's the rotation for him pretty soon, really. I just read this over the weekend, I'm trying to put new. This chart mentioned that he is expressed it. My understanding is at least, you know, and it's possible that people are passing on information, second hand and they're interpreting, interpreting his words for the teams words, but there are hints, that they're going to work and back towards the rotation in the second half. Do you drop way? Davis of the Rockies. That's the guy thought we would. Most. No, I think that was just one of those weird series and I think he's going to be alright on the road, but I, I am alarmed here, Scott over expen- fine behind him, you know, I mean it was just one of those weekends. Of course field they happen. I mean they shouldn't happen, but they do that was crazy. He was hit hard in the ninth inning. But again, it was like a golf ball pounding like a pinball machine. It was crazy. What was going on there? I still Wade Davis gets more than. Twenty five saves a season up to thirty see that happening. Like I've been saying for well over is better than Davis. But, you know, the Rockies don't care about that 'cause they're paid in that way. You know, when you pay those closer contracts, you gotta give him saves. We're angels for sure. Yeah. The angels, by the way. Kodiak got cut. How about that? He'll find work on a bad team Baltimore could make them. They're closer tomorrow. But we you and I weren't surprised the Cody. Alan was bad. You know we had last year. No. Anywhere. There's been something over the past calendar with Cody L, and maybe it gets fixed somewhere else as you said. I mean pulse more they've got Michael Gibbons, who's also having similarly, ugly outings lately, so. Yeah. Briefly ignore Baltimore, you don't want Michael givens, other teams, you're knowing Seattle, rowing, or strip on. I don't think we discussed that on every show Toronto, I think Ken Giles MRs this week. And then comes back, you don't want their replacements. I still say Sean Kelly overhauls of the clerk. No. Thank you are right there. That's that, that you've changed your mind on. And I hate to do it, but, you know you gotta go where the saves are. And it looks like that's direction Philadelphia. It's still Hector narrows save. Saturday's blue Fridays, Luke Jackson giving up some runs now. But I don't see any reason why AJ mentor would take that job. And nukem started hitting the head by a ball, Boston still no clarity, and there's an team Kansas City throw them there to Ian Kennedy actually got some saves as fast week. I know he's in Kennedy, but and he got he could have a Holland us, you know month where he gets to. But he's got like what five saves already this month, doesn't he something like that, anywhere five since may twenty ninth? So what that's like up with the leaders. Do you really feel? It's not a predictive. It's not predictive. Yeah. I mean, do you feel comfortable locking Indian Kennedy? There's some spots where I can you know, squeeze value out. I mean I can put them in my starter spot and get potential saves around my other starting pitchers. But there's I'm tired of I'm tired of raw string players like that. Then you get one save. I seem to lose saves every week in vampire. It's not worth it anymore. I don't wanna deal with. How'd you do vampire this week? I didn't check another flight five. If Justin Turner, one more time if they don't if the dodgers don't score in the bottom of the eighth. Justin turner. What about in the ninth he made out? I would've won if he had made it out, but he didn't. It doesn't matter anymore. I'm not making the plas. That's only towns. Let's get to the schedule. Full slate, not a full sleep. But most of us late on Monday. ESPN plus Zack Wheeler on the Mets Atlanta gets Mike saroka brave clearly, the best team in the NFL east. I think they're going to run away with it. So the Phillies are pretty playing for a wildcard sirocco very interested. We've talked about it all year. You know, when will they skip starts, and injure list entity they don't need to have same as paddock on the Padres. But you use both them today and then ESPN game later at night has Tyler Beatty way over his head at Dodger Stadium against my eight a. Not want to consider that at all. But this interesting stuff just an coming off the injured list for the angels. They play today. Yes. Who they phase had when Jackson Jackson Upton right in your lineup. Yes. Yes. Yanni China's a Yankee Stadium. You know, they don't have everybody back yet. Trina is good. You use them. Yeah. I liked her in his very good stuff. And I love the consistency inning over inning. I watch him pitch. The only concern here is just the weather's not exactly the greatest in New York today. So just keep an eye on it. My club injure back for Cleveland. At Texas, Texas last I look, we're leading the majors in runs per game. No pants, no Mazaar today. You have to use cleverer. Yeah. And even with the likely pitch limit, it's should be decent enough for him to go five plus innings the case. Lance Lynn over cleven today, because facing a bad Indians lineup. You read my mind. You read my mind. I've, I've been wondering this myself. I like Lance Lynn for today. I don't think it's gonna be a great, but I think he meets the quality start threshold if he gives you seven three win. Right. I mean, there's just no son, Jose Ramirez attorney and anything around nothing bad. Is he terrible? I mean that's the bus of the year. He's no Rick. Not even know second. It's not vodka who even second is in bust of the your talk. It's Ramirez is clearly winning. This is he's a sub six hundred sign now. I mean at least vital about three hundred the rest of the year without power, but Ramirez, Tuesday's PM plus has Yvonne Nova the White Sox going up town. I don't even know where that is against Cole hamels at Wrigley way. South side is. The White Sox, right? North side of the cops hamels. Great. She's north going north. Yes. We're we're having the orient orienteering on the shell. We're practicing don't use that police Akkad Texas what their lineup looks like Mitch. Keller man. I can't recommend him anymore until any he's at home against the trait. You almost couldn't have a better matchup then that. So four runs in the first inning. And then four brilliant innings to follow it. Yeah, I mean casinos homers in the first, and then there's nothing until the six like maybe there's something there. They just can't get through the first inning. I don't know going back to police act over Keller. I'm going to bet. I like places opponent, by the way you've mentioned before Adrian. People out follower in this game. What about join Yamamoto of Miami at Saint Louis? I suppose some surprising bids on him this weekend. I don't I don't think at Saint Louis is exactly great spot for them. But as I that was good. Yeah, I it's it's not a great spot. I, I kind of like the guy hate the match up so well Lino here. But. I'm concerned about Jack flowery Aaron whip. Well, I mean at this point, I think anybody who's had a questionable year. You have to be a bit concerned about, I still think that based on the command numbers, he's showing I know they've been in a little inconsistent. Start over start. I think for the year they've been good enough that I'm still a buyer, but it's fair freed ask. It's very fair onto Wednesday. Now there are baseball games on Wednesdays, please prepare, but at night ESPN plus as John gray who ended up losing that Rockies game on Sunday by throwing. He didn't get the L but he had right? Yeah. For the two intentional walks charged him which doesn't seem fair. We're all it was all charge technicalities Davis. But it was somebody loss. Their weekly league because John gray came in and was told to give attention walks, then he didn't actually throw pitches on. Yeah. That's not fair faces that Grinky. And then he is peeing peon, regular has drew Pomeranz and rich hill. I don't think it's a whole lot to say, they're so. We'll just move it on after this. It's myriad hashbrowns. The always told will he was too short to play basketball, but will never listen. We'll let his work ethic do the talking for him. Always in the gym always running drills will new where there was a will there was a way and he was will. But then after a second child was born he realized the pros were all way better than him. So we'll gave up and buried his high tops in a tearful ceremony. But one day he heard that gyco could save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch, which was awesome. All right. I'm sure there's plenty of awesome questions. So let's get to there were first you're saying that or series could be the new you really think we're gonna see ninety plus runs in a series again. Enver. Enver but my point I was going to make is that even with ridiculous run-scoring now and more than thousand homerun pace from last year, like, come on. This is an all hitters just changing as insane baseball, but they're still hinge in rue doing what he's doing. There's still good pitching performances. Which is the point I wanted to make is like, Lucas g Alito doesn't care about your baseball. He's dominating right now, but it's not even guys like that. Like Jayco Rizzi is going to win. Twenty games this season despite this baseball, Brandon Woodruff could win sixteen with two hundred strikeouts. Like even in an era now where this crazy run scoring and home runs. I mean, you still got Charlie Morton, and Mike, minor. How is Mike minor doing this? Zach Davies as to sixty era. How despite all the home runs. Yeah. We keep waiting for Jack Davies to implode. I don't think it's going to happen some checking on here. Did you mentioned to KOTA Hudson? He's good. I. I. I agree with you on that. He he's been pitching. Good pitching. Coaching with our grammar here, six six quality starts in a role but. I think he's right. Here is. But he's, he's not great. Davis is making a lot with a little, I feel like five years ago to Hudson would be a top twenty star like he'd be on the verge of that. We'd be looking at him and saying, wow, that's impressive. But it's just he's got a consistent and it's, it's really hard like if that Davies can do it. Anybody can do it. That's what I'm trying to say. Like, obviously, nobody had a shot this week in Denver to pitch. Well, but the only guy I did I saw this on the tweet like Luis Perdomo. I'd like five should I like how does that happen? Oh, yeah. The fring in and give spot starts with making followers. Oh, jeez. I carry ask, you know, it's like this the new norm. How many times do we see records set in terms of run-scoring are home runs, or the like, and then they repeat three pointers in the NBA? It's kind of just that moving in that direction. But this week I ninety two runs in four games, obviously, when we say the new norm, we don't. But, but seventy five and a four game series. Yeah. Not crazy anymore. All right. Let's get this. I'm not crazy hash. Not crazy. Mark wants to know if your interest level in Colin Moran is there likely adding second base elgibility soon. No, I could not care less hard pass. I mean, there's nothing there and second base is not that much weaker than third base, if it is at all. So I'm gonna say new. I don't care. I mean it's nice that he's adding eligibility, if you're an only league you're like, oh, no, I can move in the middle infield, but may Colorado end up hitting what sixteen home runs and batting, two sixties exciting, it matters. Like, look, I had to replace so in NFL labor this week, finally they demoted Brennan Rogers. Look, I finally, I'm glad they're not gonna play on the modem and they didn't wait until after Monday's deadline. So I got to pick up somebody. So I can I have all these players like as much auto I can move around second or third, but I had nobody I could put in there on my bench. So I had actually signed a guy pick up a guy and I got Sean Rigas, who's now, apparently new third baseman for the Phillies. But. It would have been nice to have like another player who could be moved around six outfielders there. So I couldn't move any of the Al theaters to an infield spot. If I could move onto corner, I could've gotten away with us so Moran could have been the puzzle piece that helps in this situation. But he's not the guy you're going to get in order to lead you to believe in something better. I have on reserved Smith who I'd like to activate, but I can't there's no room his the guy's got a two hundred and fifteen point split in his career Murray's. He's a platoon player. This is launch isn't hall, and Matt Joyce, trying to think of few other, that's what it looks like to me to like he just can't hit lefties, maybe someday. He will. But. At the weeks, they're playing a couple of games against week, or pitchers in the right park, or against a bunch of righties. There's probably something there. What's next a few questions here we're gonna go quick. Rapid fire here on players if you need to hold onto them or not Ian have any fantasy relevance. No, not at all. I lean to that. Yeah. Bradley Zimmer now now metals this here. Matt olsen. Yes. I mean that's at the top twenty first baseman, but not a top ten first baseman. But there's a lot of guys like meddlesome that are gonna hit twenty five home runs and to sixty. So I mean with guys like that. I just kind of take when they're hot or when they when they had the schedules. Right. Or when they have good ballparks, right? I mean Matt Olsen Ivy met Olsen similar. Let me pull up the names here and say who I say, like, like I recommended him in a Thursday, free agent blog recently and said, well, he could do pretty much what this guy can do CJ krone Vogel Bach or. Yandi D as crystal Walker. They're all kind of similar just kind of depends on the schedule, you can stream first base, if you want to actually. Iheart Matt Olsen. This is this is Adam Dunn's prime. I think coming, I think that's what the career is gonna look like more or less value now than it did. When Adam Dunn was doing less. But, but remember that in the especially the sabre metrically inclined leagues in the points leaks. Adam Adam Dunn the last player to be leading the league in home runs to get traded at that time. Wow. That, okay. Now, Edwin is next. Add winner prime done who has more value done winning traded. What's amazing about Edwin like he's obviously not gonna win a batting title base. But in home runs, RBI and runs scored. He's on pace to shatter all his career highs. And I don't see that stopping. He's never scored one hundred runs before and even be about six or seven for the Yankees. Like look who's batting behind him like other teams, cleanup hitters tours indeedy like oh, how many teams with DD touristy batting third and fourth about an eighth and ninth now for the aunties next week? And I argue watching him he hasn't had all that extraordinary season. I haven't been that wowed by what he's done, which tells you a lot about the home run environment nowadays. Yeah. I mean basically he's doing in line what he's been doing in the past. But now the different baseball helping him anyway. Anyway, going one for this rapid fire thing. Jesse Winker just turns twenty six August in Dennis deform, keeping her, cutting, I didn't expect this. I did think. Winker would would go pass twenty home runs. But I thought for sure he would bat for like two eighty because of his plate discipline. It's just too weird season for him. I'll tell you what. Someday Jesse Winker someday is batting three hundred thirty home runs season. This is weird season. Not the norm. Yeah, I think this is a little bit aborigines trying to figure it all out. Still. And they had to let him play against lefties to learn how to do it. But if you want to drop Jesse Winker this season, I don't have a problem with that. But dynasty. No way. That's if I was writing like. Guys, you don't have to Rosser now that play regularly, but someday you'll love him. He'd be on that list that top ten hitter list of hitters, eventually are going to be really, really good. I'm trying to think of anyone else competition. You know what I mean? Like. Like I said that last year about Kingery it's still going to happen. It's happening now. I don't think it's happening with Missouri. I think Jesse Winker is already more valuable to Missouri. Anyway, that could go either direction. But I absolutely see. Winker has the ability to thirty home runs and bathroom hundred. Right. He'll do it but he will the the, the plate discipline school school skin. Skills are a lot better than Missouri's. But like Jack Peterson Ustad plate discipline, you know, and and, and speed he was thirty thirty in triple A when he got called up. And then when he got called majors, stop running. He's not running and in the second year he stopped being disciplined at the plate. He was like I'm gonna I'm gonna hit a home run every time. And he's hit a lot of them. I mean right. He has nothing against left. Right. But if you get somebody home runs he had this year, I think a lot of people are gonna undershoot by a couple of. Even if the Dow back you're projecting the three hundred and thirty what if what if he is Nick marquesses past year, and a half, if that is what his trying is more power. But I ask if that is what is prime is are we really going to complain? I think it's worth keeping in dynasty dynasties are typically deep keeping players forever. That would still be a very good player. And in the dynasties I'm playing the ones that count the walks. I don't think anybody thinks Nick Mark is a dynasty player. No, his numbers his performance to typically for the past calendar year and a half of that is Jesse Winker is career the prime of his career. Give him ten years of that performance. Are we gonna complain? Yeah. I think we will actually going to say, we will because I think Winker showing this year, the has an power to hit twenty five homers a year and Marquette's doesn't. So I think it'd be a little disappointing. If he was just more cakes. That's a different way of looking at it. I just think Winker has more in him to put up bigger numbers. Yeah, I'm just thinking, like if it's two ninety twenty. Instead of three hundred thirty I don't think we complain I think we gotta take it. Maybe we will complain we shouldn't. All right. Let's let's hear from our POWs at ZipRecruiter now, finding a new job is a lot of work. What if you had your own personal recruiter to help you find a better job now? Ziprecruiter's technology can do exactly that for you. Just download ZipRecruiter job. Search up, let it know what kind of jobs you are interested in and its technology starts doing the work for you. 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Where does Lucas g Alito figure in the pitcher tears? Man that could almost be a name game. Right. I mean, because you could make the case it's your podcast. It can be whatever you want it to be. I say this truthfully, his not I can't. But if you wanna play that sound I will listen to everybody wants to your name game. Highly Diddley do what the dill pickle Italy do lead Twitter, while the Dili of pickle Italy. Italy pickle. We can't draw the Bill delight the city leave a pickle. Come on. Do whatever you know. Pickle dilly dally your way into another thing on a name for you felt of staff, bro stat dog stat kids hamster of white statal vicious, MRs of Steph is wrong with you trash Tristan here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Singing that we're having an intervention. Intervention anyway. Yeah. I was just gonna win. Is that going to happen? I need to know. I need to put it on my calendar. I feel like you're long overdue for it. That's an all-star break thing. Is that what Al write it down? Hold on. All right. So looking at. See here where is your last? So looking at your last rankings, I don't see g Alito man, he's number thirty eight but I think it's fair to say that if he keeps doing what he's doing. He will be top twenty pitcher for two thousand twenty drafts, but. How about g alita versus Stephen Strasburg for next year? I mean, are we do we want to assume we're going to he's going to do what he's been doing for the past six weeks, if he doesn't do quite what he's doing? Right. But he does like Egan say's Trevor Bauer the rest of the season, wouldn't you have to write in the way we do Trevor Bauer next, but I feel a little bit. Like, that's that's what we're assuming if he performs as he did recently. I think a lot of it has to do with the winds that he's had a very good. Very good performance category. I think top twenty is under shooting g alita Trevor Bauer next year. I Baur just because I'm gonna project for the way expect it's going to play out in dynasty. Yeah. That's that's. All right. So John, g Alito has really figured it out that this, that this is it kind of looks legit to me. Yeah. 'cause you got to remember where he was when he was breaking through with the nationals of the majors. I mean he was considered a future Cy Young guy. So. You know what I think you're underselling this a little if I if you asked me to find ten pitchers that I will definitively rank over Gilio for next year. I'm gonna I'm gonna try to come up with a list. Okay. Sure. It here where you're thinking. I'm undershooting this a little under selling it. Jers sale ver- Lander degrom. Garrett Cole is a top five for now a next year. Okay. I still think. Bauer. Blake snell. Buehler Aaron Nola air knows are you sure about Nola. No, I'm not at all. Sure. Yep kershaw. No. Not putting my top ten I kinda think, gee, Lido and Bauer like nine and ten right now. Like I can't find ten is basically, I'm telling you like bueller is gonna move up like looking at your current rankings, and obviously, they need to be updated. 'cause crawls goes out. But Buehler Strasbourg love how he got her right after the hour. Like like you have Strasbourg eight that's fair. But I this is the thing if g Lido does what he is doing right now through the end of the year. I don't think there's any doubt. He belongs a head of Strasbourg. So that's why I don't think you know. Underst- underselling or overselling it with you. I think he is a top ten guy at this, this rate of performance. But does he keep it up? I it's impossible for anybody to keep it up quite like this. And he just beat the Yankees two. I know but he's probably gonna keep saying this your undershooting Grinky like I don't have grandkids. Not closer to ten had one bad outing on overeating day since then he's been amazing. He's like, the number three starter for the season he shouldn't be number seventeen. I don't like ten or eleven like legitimately ten or eleven who's on here. He might well, do that. But it's not going ahead over you know, but, but they both be a head of Paxton for me. Nola, I you know, corbin's been kind of a radical late. But this is quickly the thing change it. I mean Syndergaard Nola Paxton Corbin it didn't change grantee. I where Greg right now, but he has to be around number ten eleven twelve but that's where he's going to be in the next one my point being that the guy's head of them are now obviously behind him. So I don't think it's really a lot of change with Grinky. All right. So we like Lido basically, what we're saying. We think he could be a top ten pitcher in next year. Drafts fair. Yeah. Very least SP two, right? Like if he's maybe you're not comfortable with him as your first pitcher. But pretty close. Yeah, I agree. All right. You kinda touch on this a little earlier with consta- Janas. Does he need to still be roster? Nearly as many strikeouts hits this year. No, he doesn't. He doesn't if you want to move on from Nicosia knows. You know. Nasim is number twenty four outfielder. I feel like it should be like forty. Like we're in mid June. Now, I don't know what else we need to see here. Like he's just not getting it done. And I think part of it is because of his contract and the mess around him. And you know like. I would have casinos ranked like number forty, which means he's still should be rostered. So maybe that's not even fair. But like you said to me cast the versus Jack Petersen the rest of the year. I don't think it's I don't think it's casinos. If you say Aaron Hicks, I would take Hicks. I'm not sure I'd have cast forty like where would I have auto now certainly not in the top twenty first baseman? I agree with Hicks. I don't on Peterson Peterson. I feel is to roll trae Manzini overcast Janas. I want power out of certain outfielder. I don't care if he's still basis or they score runs or bad to ninety right now casting on us helping in zero categories. Nary a category. Please train Manzini sitting for power seconds. So we scores whatever runs, they can muster any has the park that helps them you asked me castle on us versus Aston Riley. I'll take Riley. You asked me Illinois? I'll take away what both Padres slot. Two-dimensional one-dimensional, sluggers Fran mill and Renfro at least they're gonna hit thirty home runs Cassiano might not hit twenty so yes, I'm you know what? I'm dropping Castanos. And I don't think it's crazy. At this point, I don't think it's crazy. I think it's gonna come right down to for what if it's somebody asked about Jarrod, Dyson adding him for different players. But there's no I mean, unless you desperately need the stolen basis. And that's the only spot near roster you can do it. I'm not doing that. It's always down. What you're whipping. N-no more, Missouri. And he's better numbers than Castanos. Okay. It's just a yes, we did like Cassiano back in March, maybe more than you. I thought there was a potential for thirty thirty hundred season. It's just it's not enough. If there's any way you liked him more than I did chance that. So this is one of my biggest bus to the air behind that. Happens players on the Tristan's twenty I think I had my, my number nineteen outfielder for the for the going in. So it's been a huge bust, and I'll tell you this. He is getting one thing that a lot of these other examples, we haven't that we've given are not. And that is he's going to be locked into that premium lineup spot and they're going to play him. There are worse things to be a volume potential. They're given every opportunity to fix this. If you want a lot, I pick up, obviously Garcia over custody vodka. Gonna give them both pick up. Ramon, Laureano over both guys cake is least, you know, is safe in batting average. And RBI I won't go that far by well points leagues. I mean that's the thing if it's a points league. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Jackie Bradley, I won't go that far. But he's Bradley what? Yeah. He's performed quite well. Let's put it this way. Jorges O lair is going to hit thirty home runs. He might forty. He might break the royals record for home runs in a season. Castanos might not hit twenty home runs. Why would we take us over so layer knowing what we've seen through almost reminds of the season. I'm not going to do it anymore. I think so. There is going to keep doing what he's doing be one slash two category provider fantasy. I think my hit forty home runs. I don't think has gone is going to top twenty. So Lehrer and I don't wanna keep having this conversation in mid August, as people are keep rostering Cassiano saying, when's it going to happen? Well is not going to happen. And look, I did have Josh Donaldson my drop column on Thursday. And then he homered everyday against the Phillies Phillies have given up the most home runs the National League now. If Donaldson keeps doing that. I'll change my mind but I still see Josh Donaldson as a kind of a hollow twenty-five, seventy guy about to sixty in this era. That's not that excited. Now, that was a hell of a Saturday Homer, though. It was a monster shot. It was a golf ball shot and Phillies, obviously, his starter or two-thirds of open. So I can't surprise I'm all about the quality of contact for these kinds of players. And when I take the casual glance at Jorges hilar- his metrics, don't look all that much better than Castanos, and he unquestionably as worse ballpark had homers, except one of them has more than twice as many homers as the other. And. I'll be honest with you. I don't care about that. I care about what comes and maybe it us what tells you that. So there can't keep doing what he's doing. The fact that he's not making contact. It doesn't matter in this era in this era. You don't have to make contacted thirty five home runs thirty five you can't just extrapol-. I mean this comes back to the question about ninety two runs in course field in four games. You can't just expect to literal, repeat of this. He's an terrible ballpark for power really is. I'm telling you that if a player as eighteen home runs and seventy games despite a terrible contact rate. Yeah, I look at the home runs. He's trying hit home runs. He's not trying to do anything else. Okay. As more home runs than than other extra-base hits and I see this all reasonable in this era. If you double, so layers numbers, okay. That means he plays one forty two games. Thirty six home runs. Terrible. Contact rate bad batting average. Nary a stolen base. And it doesn't matter. He still going to blow away. Nicasio honest this season fantasy value. Okay. The extrapolating by doubling the numbers. I just is not the way to look at these things. I see your point about he has done it, and therefore he could very well do it again. But I choose not to look at this that way, I choose to look at it like based on the situation, the quality of context, and I don't see much better stuff for so, so I'll tell you our end our end of your lunch. Let's decided on this who hits more homers, Solaro costano. I don't feel good about this. But I'm taking Casio's me for the rest of the season or the entirety. The then you're spotting me something if you're giving me for the rest of the. Final number counting. What's in the Bank, are you kidding me? I think for the rest of the season. So it's more than custody. Okay. Okay. Award lunch is on the line. Is that what I heard, and I wouldn't lunch, Eric very well we'll win this, but I think that's competitive. Then why would you do it because I think that's your playing because you're dismissing him based on numbers that have already happened. And I think you're grasping too much to yesterday stats. And I don't think those matter I everything that's all there is doing right now is legitimate and everything the honest doing right now. Also looks legitimate his home to fly ball rate is not legitimate, not based on the quality of content. And again, I'm not digging deep into the stat cast metrics there could be something. I'm totally not saying which case I'm being idiot here, but twenty four twenty four percent homeowner flow rate. I don't see it continuing Kansas City. I don't. This is a new era. Some of these that's have to be melded a little bit differently and what's the what's the final Homer to fly ball rate number for him. I asked you this about another player last week. And I couldn't get on board with you with a thirty percent. I couldn't I think thirty percents, too high. I will grant you that okay? It's twenty four percent too high in that ballpark. It seems high it seems unsustainable, but we're through half a season and he's doing so would this baseball. I think horse solar can keep a twenty four percent hormonal fly ball. Right. I got this one. I do. I think I got this one, we're going to McDonald's. All right. Anything else? We got for questions is always the night before the podcast hashtag, six M o B on Twitter. I'll be taking them and put the best ones on the punt. Okay. We didn't even we talk about pitchers couple days. Oh, yeah. We did. We did. We did that early. All right. I all I can say, I can't wait for my twenty piece chicken mcnuggets. I haven't been to McDonald's this decade because 'cause my kid, Eric wins. You get a cookie tristen. You get two thirds of that cookie. Actually, they have that whole box of cookies there. Yeah, you're smart. This is such a good tristen. I don't even care which side wins. All the cookies, and we don't eat BUSTER, and Tim, Kirk Jin discussed the Edwin, Encarnacion deal on a whole lot more and Buster's podcast, plus a conversation with hall of Famer Edgar Martinez. Ooh. 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Andrew Miller, LHP, St. Louis Cardinals

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Andrew Miller, LHP, St. Louis Cardinals

"Hey everybody welcome back to the twelfth. Six podcast i'm your host colin mccue and on today's episode we have american league player association representative and saint. Louis cardinals relief pitcher. Andrew miller andrew has had a long illustrious career in the major leagues but not without some struggles and challenges. Along the way he's played in both leagues he's played on multiple teams over the course of about fifteen years and he's arguably the most consistent reliever in baseball over the last decade we talk about playing for different types of managers the much talked about dry hump and what it was like to be locked in a hotel during a cova outbreak on their team. This season i love this guy. I think andrew is one of the most well informed and well intentioned ball players. I've ever met as always if you're not subscribe to the show. Go ahead and do that. So that you're up-to-date whenever new episodes air and without further ado. I hope you enjoyed today's conversation with andrew miller. A sky. you big gamer. You game are on the road. No not at all. Actually i brought my playstation for the first time ever for this trip is on this crazy long. Potentially road trip. So i brought a playstation. But not a gamer. Wait is this. Is this the road trip to try and make up all the games that were missed during that cova time part of it so we just played five games in three days against milwaukee but the biggest the craziest part is there's like potential the because of the bubble as they call it. If we were on the road right now we go home last like four days. The season but that bubble would have started so on the road for ten days now or something would come on for five more days of the regular season if we went all the way to game. Seven of the world series. It's like fifty two days or something like that without going back home. Holy shit what are we want. what are we doing. This is yeah. You're you're not on a special year mad. I i've been talking to guys like across the league trying to figure out turn like piece together what it actually feels like to be a major leaguer in twenty twenty right now you've got a unique experience being from being saint louis bit going through a covert lockdown and trying now trying like you said five games in three days and it was the last time you did that in the big leagues. Never never. Yeah never we would never do that. The idea of like we're used to playing a game every day. For ten to fifteen days straight but doubleheaders are a special hell especially for a reliever so if you have two of them in one season that's like just over the limit. That's that's unacceptable. You can't on yeah. How's the bullpen. Feeling right now tonight we actually. We started leave the game injury. Hopefully not the major so we kinda shouldered but then a couple of days ago in a doubleheader and they picked up all the two thirds of an inning. So we're doing all right. All things considered. We've honestly i'm shocked how well we've handled it been That we've had guys stay as healthy as they have in my opinion. It's been a challenge in year for everybody. But then yeah you mentioned unlock and you know the the starting and stopping is is hard on a baseball player lee. I noticed for me and we've handled a surprising well so credit to know the staff training guys all that kind of thing because you know if you asked me before it started how we were going to hold up nine a whole lot of that. We were going to be to compete. Well i mean we talked about it at length this summer. I mean both being on the executive committee with the union. About what are we gonna do if x hits. What are we going to do if a team goes down. Two teams go down half a league goes down. What are we going to. We're going to figure this out and piece it together and you were in a situation in which you had to sit. We all at home. We're on a hotel where you had to just sit and stay so we started so we went on our very first road trip and we had. I think today's series of milwaukee the second day in milwaukee we learned our first of sorry minnesota saguenay so we learn of our first positive and then we flew to milwaukee our guests. That positive happened that day. We found out about it. When we got to milwaukee so then we stayed in our room. I think we were there for eight days. The only time we left our rooms was for testing so you literally got texted the night before at eight thirty or nine fifteen room. Do your testing and that was like your ten minutes of our side of your room. That was it and then we're like okay. I think we were seven or eight days out. We basically got the clearance to hop on a plane. Let's go back to saint louis. We're gonna have a workout for two and started this thing back up wall. We got back to saint. Louis had a workout and then i think that evening found out that people in that workout had tested positive. And it just kind of shut us down again and this time we were in saint louis which was much easier guys. Where at home out in your yard go for a walk. That kind of thing protect yourself. But it's tough. I mean it's everybody's got different situation. The guys that are single have nobody that can help them out. The guys that are married you know. What are you dude. You can do quarantine within your own house you. So that's kind of what. I did i since i took over like a little room and stayed away. I saw my kids at a distance and my wife dropped off food at the threshold kind of thing. So it's just it was a challenge in you know again. That's twenty twenty. what's new. That's the way it goes. That's been the story this entire year. I feel like at every juncture in every piece of life that we could think been are throwing are waiting to get through it please. Let's just get through it. What is so when you're on the hotel quarantine you said. You're not a not a big gamer. What is quarantined. Look like for a thirty five year old ball due to doesn't do you know they drop food. Outside of the door order room service constantly we had a i think fortunately tremor what the golf term was a baseball tournament on. Tv just wore out a seat on the couch. Guys watched movie. We had a some sort of app. We could play poker game kind of virtually throughout survey logging on their phones. He ten guys on that it just it kind of just grinds to a halt. I mean the days are so slow you crack your window. And i think everybody handled it differently but for me it just kind of found myself in the same spot on the couch and they delivered baseball's maybe on day six and tell us determine your mattress. I did you really do it. I throw them innocent pillows but our are young pitcher. He lifted up his mattress in. You made all sorts of room. So it just i think mentally those the hardest part honestly you know i it just you know you just get worn down believe it or not doing absolutely nothing we all. We need some sort of interaction with other human being. It's funny that you know wearing a face. Shield and a mask to kobe. Tested was like the exciting part of your day. You know you get on the elevator. You get to have a literally three or four minute chat with a trainer or a technician or something. Dr giving you a no swamp so it's a challenge. I think i gained an appreciation for you know what people go through in that situation. And it's not something i wanna do again. That's for sure at the pace at which we go during a season hundred sixty two games in. What one hundred eighty. Two days hundred eighty-one days. I'm like that. We are like usually killing for an off day. I mean you're looking forward to the next day. Ten days in advance like aren't to have a thursday off on the road set up a golf game. Set up a dinner. We're gonna do this for him to do that. And to have this many off days quote in a row where you're just sitting in your and you can't do any of the things that you normally wanna do on an off day in baseball. It must feel like just such blue balls. Because you're just you're like. I'm supposed to be playing right now. Is i know what i'm supposed to be doing. I can't do it one. There's no end in sight. We don't you don't know when they're going to let you out. You kept getting kinda like jesus here and there you know you call you. Call the union you call. I spent a lot of time. talking to djaama's eli. There's just so much unknown in you. And i went through a trying to come up with a plan for this season. There was no official number. Five guys get her. This is the number of day you know. There's not a dime and if you think back to those conversations we knew so little compared to what we know now we still have lot learn about this virus and how to handle it what it means but you know it just. It makes sense that we weren't able to put like you know. Strike numbers on things but it. Just the unknown is part of the problem just sitting there thinking like and honestly it came back to bite us because like i said we flew home and turns out. We had positive players on that flight. You know. I think maybe even a staff members well so it's just a. It's a challenge. Glad i'm not in charge of having to make those decisions but yeah just sitting there waiting with no you know there was no light at the end of the tunnel is just indefinite until you know. We had enough days without any positive test. The fact that you're playing well enough right now to be in playoff consideration. Considering you missed any days in a row is pretty wild. I mean like it's hard to have a couple of days in a row unexpectedly so to to be able to kind of bring it back and put it back together. must feel like pretty satisfying for y'all. I've been blown away. I've been impressed. I honestly maybe. The biggest moment for me was we came back in wayne right. Took the ball in game one and everybody on the bullpens. Kinda like you know. What's his pitch count. What's he going to be able to do. He has pitched in. I think probably twenty days or so at that point and he went out and he just absolutely dominated he went deep and he gave us a chance. I think it set the tone. And like i said guys you know. We found a way we completely changed the way. We operate at the ballpark. In the way you know we are team had been really big on meetings and spend time on the field and you know early work and all that stuff and doing things as a group and we knew there were adjustments we. Maybe we almost went completely complete one eighty from what we have done. Historically guys found a way. And you know i i just think that first game coming out and playing well and having are are starting pitcher the guy that we all looked up to go out and dominee was just saying maybe what what set it off because it could have gone side where it's like. We had every reason not to be successful when no is he's crazy to me. I mean he is so good and has been so good for so long in every year. I'm like he hangs it up now. Right like he's this is the year he retired because he has done all the things you need to do. Like he's he's got the resume is done at all and he comes back. And i'm like oh i don't wanna see him fail. I come on man. You're like my favorite. And then he goes out and does this and he goes out and he throws the ball well over and over again and he just knows how to get guys out and like unit. Do this for your going to do this. You're forty five. I think he could. There's no evidence that he threw a complete game of those doubleheaders today and got the win. And it's just an. He takes the ball in pressure e begs for says. This isn't happening today. This is my day. And it's just. I mean i think that day back. I'm sure they told him. Hey you got sixty pitches. I don't know what eater ended up throwing. But i'm sure he came in the dugout and said you're not taking me outright now not today not right now we this doing it and it just. It's incredible. I told him earlier this year that he used to win the cy young if everybody knew how difficult it is to achieve what he what. He has this year in what he means to our team. Dish cy young. We're year for him. It's just been that precedent. it's. I'm glad i got the chance to play with them and noam and yeah i mean just the you know the the best example of what major league baseball player should be one of the most class act. I've i've been around him a little bit kind of on the field and then off the field and man he he he does it he. He walks the walkie. Talkie does the whole thing and yet he's he's what i think about when i think about like a big leaguer. You've been a lot of different places you've been in detroit. Florida boston new york. Cleveland even announced saint. Louis how does how to st louis stack up against against the rest of these cities. Yeah you're the midwest is you can talk shit about saint louis if you want to because nobody listens to this so it's fine doubt. I don't know i was blown away. I watched the listen to interview. David tony camp and that was. I figured it a good job at that was blown away and that was that was i. Don't wanna have to meet the expectations of a podcast but has into racial justice. Stuff really quickly. i'm just get but i. I'm sure you've quite appalling if not it's common but you know the mid west has been fun cleveland and detroit. We're really need I'm from florida. So it's a little different you know. We've got a little bit of the southern hospitality. Charm kind of thing going. But people are just so nice out there and it's a it's a slower pace than new york and boston. You kind of you know in the suburbs and you have nice neighbors a big yard and that kind of stuff some. We've really enjoyed it. Saint louis the organization teams just first class. It's a great group to be around Got really lucky mike. Shelton awesome manager. He really cares about the players. I've been fortunate. Human side played a lot of places. I think that you know. I love the idea of having a player in one place for such a long time elaine writer molina and yeah that must be really special to them but for me. I've been able to experience a lot of all these different places. And you know i've been able to play with a huge range of players and see you know a lot of different. You know at the way. There's something baltimore and boston or something like that. And it's been really a neat experience. We i wouldn't change any of it and honestly everywhere i've been has been awesome and You know something that. I'm appreciative for my career. Pitchers talk a lot about going from the american league the national league or vice versa. And they're being a distinct difference in play. And i feel like in twenty twenty now especially because of the d. h. but the league's are really not that different. I feel like but as a pitcher. Do you feel like the mentality is still there. Where teams nationally. Still trying to play a little bit differently than especially in the alias. Spent a lot of time. yeah. I think This year. everything's the same. There's hardly a difference this year. We haven't hardly seen a. But i feel like whereas bunch of boring hill. I mean come on. Like i'm going to say i love baseball. I'm a baseball fan but like nobody wants to see a bond unless it's like a drag bunt from a leadoff guy just trying to get on bay it's like i don't wanna see pitcher bunt and you know i understand pitchers that like to hit and i'm fully on board. I've never i would always rather watch professional hitter than a pitcher hit. You know that sueno about it. Ask windows achilles about it at the same time. So he hurt himself hitting. I'm sure but at the end of the day he still wants to hit these guys love to hit they go out there and strike out all the time and they think they look good but they you know the worst heading position player looks so much better than the best hitting pitcher. But it's not even close. Truly so i think this year we've last was a challenge for me because i hadn't seen a league but i think as much as anything. It was just entirely new set of players. You've seen it the last two years. There's so many new guys knows. The games gotten younger and younger. And i've always felt more comfortable. And i feel like i have you know essentially an upper hand when i've experienced against somebody. That's something that actually works in my vantage. And you know. I went to a league where i felt like i hardly knew anybody and i feel like that was the challenge the the patriots coming out because his spot in the lineup comes up as always. You weren't talking about something that really irritates guy in the bullpen. And it's all right. We're down to but if we get to a spot we're gonna hit forum. And he's only at sixty pitches or something like that. There's not many things it a the frustration. More than than that so nice to see that go. I think ultimately it's it's good for the game. Sure it'd be some people some of the old time you guys that you know will rue the day the the hitting pitcher that could move guys over and get get down a pretty sack on. But i'm all for the the d. h. In both leagues. I was talking to lance the other day and we were reminiscent about the one time we were in the locker room and rettig was just talking shit. He was talking shit about what she does. Also i mean you know josh and i. I love josh. But like he loves talk shit and we were talking about it and he was he was saying you know oh pitchers pitcher suck pitchers the worst hitters in the league like nobody needs pitchers to hit nobody and lands. Just slow in the corner is that can i show a hands for people who have World series b. I and just kind of looked around and landscape slipped his hand up and read. It just stood up and said you can go to hell. Lange walked off one of the bathroom but the anomalies like that are the things that people like. They love to go back to the bartolo home runs. You know the things that once in a once in a season once in a career things but on a daily basis. I don't wanna see lancet. God bless me. It's like he's got some juice. But like i don't wanna see him head i don't yeah i i'm with you one hundred percent it's I guess it's exciting when they actually come through but they don't come through very often doesn't just kills you. Give up to a pitcher. There's nothing worse than giving up. No i i got my first. Hit ever off kershaw. And i was like i'm set like i'm set for life. I don't need to hit any more good like i'll end it here and literally the next inning. It came in came up with two guys onto outs. Kershaw took me deep left center. And i was like oh. He went back side on me and i was like. Oh my god. This is the worst feeling in the world like this. We should get rid of this for sure. Definitely and i've never been a fan of it ever since. I wanna talk a little bit about your early career because you've got Story and a lot of ways. Big time prospect coming out of high school or coming out of college. Excuse me north carolina and you are starting pitcher and you. I think most people that know you. Now know you as a reliever because you've been a reliever for the past one eight seven eight years but you came into the league a really early. I mean you had what three weeks in the minor leagues after after the draft before you got in the big leagues. Yeah through in three games. In the florida state league after five innings out of the bullpen and came up and it was a unique situation. Kinda back when there were no contracts for picks you you put on the roster so i was already on the roster. I was lights out in those five innings. I think the tantalizing idea that some young come up so hard and and make a splash. The playoffs was something worth looking into for the tigers team. And for me it was. You know maybe not the the best thing for my career. But i wouldn't trade it for the world. It was awesome. Anytime you get to the major leagues. You take it and you never. You never complain about it. But i got to join a team. That was full of veterans and and successful. They went all the way to the world series. They lost to the cardinals. Actually but yeah. It was Quite the ride most guys get to. You can work your way up and you start to get a feel you get into spring training and that type of thing and i kind of skip through all that and a definite backing paid some dues in the minor leagues later on but it was a pretty wild ride there for a while. That's a extremely unique situation in a lot of ways but having the was. Jv on that team at the time. We've lander on the on the tiger. Yes that was his. That was his rookie. Year was rookie year. That here okay. That's what i was thinking. I was like i think his rookie year. They went to the world series. And he's he's told me a lot of stories about like that whole team coming in and trying to fit in but he was like you know the guy coming in and another guy who threw really hard coming in out of out of college and new pitch like came in to pitch. Did you throw really really hard at the time. And they were like this is it. I mean this is So i i could throw hard and compared to most college pitchers i certainly through hard. But i didn't throw like justin. And i think that was one of the challenges i had when i got big leagues. Not necessarily the first year but the year i came up as the starter i worked my way up a little bit. And i on the meyer leaks and you looked at justin. And here's this. Big strong righty dawn forcing fastballs and a big curve ball and he was having a lot of success and the tigers. At the time. We're kind of known for drafting heart dies. That was their thing. And i got up and probably the hardest thing on knee at the start of my career was i got up because pitching well and then i i had all this confidence in and you know how it is. You get the big. You're going to get humbled pretty quickly. It on you know and as soon as you start not having success start hearing it from guys coaches and stuff in there and they're not wrong by saying hey you just don't know who you are yet you gotta learn this and do that but i think that shook my confidence a lot and there was a lot of thought process that i should probably pitch more just like if i if i five the ability to throw ninety four ninety five it's going to create more room for error than china throw ninety two ninety three which was kind of the way i got myself there. I reach back and get mid upper nineties a strike out here or there. If i want to throw a forcing vows on a lot of sinkers at a little cutter they eventually took away from me but developmental developmentally. It was really tough because even if it was the right thing to do. I took it as a hey. Maybe i'm not as good as i thought. Or maybe i've got a long ways. Go and that was a challenge. And i think that that's the amazing thing to me. Is when i see guys come up and have success right away and sustain it like that's mind blowing because i got kicked around for a while and that's You know how it is. It's not fun to be out there when you're not doing well it's a it's it's truly the worst. There's no i always say there's no worse feeling than being bad at your job and especially being that your job in front of lots and lots of people and many people get critiqued in the paper the next day for having a so-so a rough day. Oh my god but yeah so. Yeah i mean it was all. It was a great experience but yet results wise. I struggled and i think that. Just i just go along with him. I communicate a lot with them. Tried to learn from him and and what he went through but trying to be somebody else i think also you know it was a real challenge for me and i i ran into that during my time with the marlins as we had another couple of big righties that through hard and actually by then. They threw sinkers as josh johnson and chris. Yeah trying to say all right. Well they throw this way. They're doing really well. It's working for them. You know what's what can you do that. Mimics that in a kind of derailed in gave me a bunch of speed bumps in my career but at the same time. it's just a process. It's getting to that point. We do find out who you are. What makes you successful or or what you know what your mechanics look like in your adjustments aren't all that it's just a process and sometimes it takes longer than others i. I'm just really fortunate. Got so lucky that you know people vouch for me. Sit up for me and and give me opportunities when you know. Probably a lot of guys might not have anymore. You've had enough success in your career at this point that i don't think people would ever question it but there were points like you just said in your career where i think that you have to be used to be looking yourself in the mirror thinking can i do this am i really like. Am i really going to be able to make a career out of this and coming from north carolina where you were so good and coming high in the draft and being in the in the big leagues quickly. I mean were there times where you just thought. I just don't know i don't know if this is it for me. Oh there's been touch of. I think Early on yeah. It's you know. I think it i i kind of bought into the you know it just takes a while. You gotta pay your dues. Go back and may tell you that all the time. I mean earlier career especially in the big leagues. You pay your dues. You'll you'll get here eventually. I don't worry about emmanuel beef. you'll be fine. Just gotta you gotta get your shit kicked in like for how long i don't know. Yeah no. I mean i've gotta five hundred innings or you gotta do this or do that or whatever it is and you know the reality is everybody's different and you know i think i just i never gave up probably close sometimes a year in two thousand ten with my last year of the marlins said it. Just start off on the wrong foot. I got to the point. Where at a weird contractual thing and you know. The marlins submitted the numbers we looked at them and they were funny. And just you know. There was wrong. Math and there was a disagreement on like what number should be used because of my major league contracts and all this stuff and i hadn't pitch and well just like start off on the wrong foot and i literally was probably the worst player on aa team. I had. I don't know year and a half of major league service like not that far removed from being. Yeah the the guy in college that was you know top pick potentially in this and that and i just remember it was interesting. I ended up on the aa team for some reason and it was outside of. The team is jacksonville. But my wife's parents had a condo on the beach out there and it was like i don't know the year was just absolutely horrific on the baseball field for the most part but it was a fun team. There are a lot of guys up being pretty darn good. A a guy named mike stanton by john carlos on ta who's that in It was just such a grind. But i don't know. I just i wasn't ready and i just kept just working every i for the longest time. I threw two bullpens between every start. Just beat my head against the wall like it's going to click. It's gonna come. It's going to happen and you know. I think that for most of that's what it takes. I'm sure that's your experience. I mean they're they're the guys that don't go through that those are the hall of famers in the and i'm sure they still say. Hey it's you know. It's not as easy as i made it. Look but you know you mentioned berlin earlier so he won rookie year. I think he lost like seventeen games and two thousand seven so he went from like. Hey you know justin. I'm confident that he probably thought he was like. You know they're they're carving out my bus for cooperstown right now and out the next year in lost seventeen games. I think so. It's just this game. Just i don't know why we do it sometimes. It just beat you up and and it'll kick in the nuts and piss you off and you're gonna wanna like crawl into a tiny little hall but for whatever reason you know we keep going back and you know you said the worst place the world would be as you know being a bad ditch on on amount. I don't know that there's anything that beats being successful in off majorly mound when you like. There's there can't be a drug that gives you that high of when you did your job whether that was getting a major league win or getting a big outer help and win a series. Whatever like that feeling of like quieting crowd on the road is is unbeatable. And that's i think that's why at least for me i keep going back. I will argue this until the damn dead but like baseball is the best game ever because it is so complicated and it is predicated on the fact that people will be bad. Somebody's gotta be bad and the other team has to will end up beating them because one of the teams is usually worse. And it's usually not that usually don't get these like slugfests. Words like ten to nine and both teams are really good. And everybody's done kind of their job and even those games. The pitchers have been you know. They've been shit and like an every game you depending on who you're rooting for like there is a distinct winter and a distinct loser and i think that that is a drug itself like now being away from the game. I can crave it. I kind of look back. And i'm like i like the feedback. It's getting the feedback. Every day of knowing whether i've done a good job done a bad job and it keeps pushing you and keep pushing you and i think the baseball is the only game that you can play for one hundred and sixty two games like i think. I think it would be the only one that you could do this for that long. Because you know similar to golf which a lot of baseball players also like. You hit a lot of bad shots. You do a lot of bad things around the course but like the couple things that you do. Well you're like this is it. This is the one. I wanna come back for. This is right. That's gonna keep me doing this. How many golfers shoot one hundred and ten but go sign up for the next week at that one shot at. Yeah i'm with you baseball's the same. It's you know if you've made that one pitch on a big mountain. I gotta get that feeling again. I've got a gotta have that sensation one more time and yet at some point it it's taken away from you and i have no idea how reacted probably won't be good but you know it's it's you know that's what i live for. That's the most fun thing you know. That's the best feeling on the planet and as long as it's out there i'm gonna go for as a major league pitcher you've done probably more things than the average guy have been a starter you've got almost seventy starts in your career. I was looking at You've got tons of middle relief appearances. You've got a good amount of games finished and not just games finished games finished in big time situations in playoff situations and on big teams in big crowds. Do you have an opinion on because most guys do most open guys do on roles and how roles affect the way players are able to perform i do and i think the best example i have of it is the time i was in new york my first year so batanes this was there so david robertson had still in after mariana left and d. rob had a great run their of the yankees the white sox offered her a thing with the yankees actually signed me before you know anyways so don i don't spring training down's been like just the best reliever in baseball last few years and striking out a zillion people a year doing throwing eighty ninety innings just absolutely most intimidating guy on the planet and i think girardi had this idea in mind that like hey i got a righty and lefty in. We'll just we'll match up. Will eight the ninth inning depending on what the lineup looks like you. Maybe his donald a better something and we both pitch well at the start of the year and he never you know designated one or the other but it seemed like we were just kind of held back. It was confusing. And for whatever reason it kind of clicked at some point and i ended up being the the close girardi ever said i was the closer but it didn't. He didn't sit down and say like all right. I know we've done this experiment but like you're the guy i'm gonna call. It's a in the ninth inning. He talked to us. I want to say you know. Maybe we'll have camper right. We got up to york to start the season. Said hey like this is my plan to basically both guys and i'm gonna give you the best. Meth matchups possible. And i bet it wasn't a week or two and it was just kind of like this isn't running as smoothly as it should. You know it's you run into the point. Where are thinking all right. Well if this guy gets the last out its mere. I'm getting hotter this situation and then the guy that's on now get out of it now. The other guys hot and you end up with a lot of arrest. Gotta love the term. The dry hump. Oh yeah i think it just kind of it clicked that like we just be better off. I don't care if it's all righties and don't gets all lefties like if you guys you have confidence and just let them pitch and let them set a routine around that it'll make all the difference in the world. So i am a believer in you know so i went. I got traded to cleveland. And you know part of this big trade. I closed new york and this and that and tito did an awesome job that we had pretty set roles. Kodiak still the closer and i think it takes the right guys you got know personalities and you know i mentioned cody. I mentioned allen like those guys they're selfless and and they did a really good job of not making it about them. And and what's what's the best for the team and you admire that. But i think those are the guys you want. So it's maybe not always that cut and dry probably one of the more successful times i've seen. It bounced around. When i was in baltimore darren o'day and i kinda took maybe the seventh and eighth innings and it was just based on matchup but at the same time. Britain was the closer. He the last three outs last four outs whatever. It was time in You know so. I am a believer in it. I think that you could potentially if you guys in the minor leagues pitching in all sorts of roles. And you're using them in that you know our army. Unroll your best reliever and stuff. Maybe you can kind of change it. But you know the the world that you and i came up and i'm a big believer. I let guys have that comfort level letting them have that. Route team is going to help them be successful. i didn't realize this until i got to the bullpen in two thousand eighteen. Because i had not spent a good amount of time down there like a whole season but the stress that a reliever has to go through in a given game if you don't have a defined role if you're not the closer if you're not the closer if you're not cody alan. If you're not aroldis chapman if you're not whoever the you know you're getting the ball in the ninth inning period every literally every Out that has made. You're counting down the out until you get to that. Twenty four th twenty twenty fifth out and you're like into the ninth inning and it is so stressful over the long haul in a in a given game you can do it. It's fine a given week. You could do it. But the course of a half a season or a couple months or something like if you have a stretch of games where there's a lot where you're maybe and maybe out your dry humped here you're getting dry to their. You're in the game where you didn't expect to be in the game like mentally. It is exhausting. And i think that's where those roles start to start to play play into the success. That guys are able to have. It's not necessarily that. One guy is better in the seventh inning. Where the eighth inning. It doesn't really matter like those are those are arbitrary innings for a guy to pitch in but a guy to know i can kind of shut it off. I can turn off the switch until we get to. This time of the game has to be like as to be worth something right. I think that's absolutely. i do. Think that the ninth inning is a little bit different. You know your name is on the line. You know you're the one that's gotta talk to the media if it doesn't go well There's something to be said. I think the at bats change a little bit. The fires probably changed a little bit zone. I get a little tighter but the more guys to me. If i were ever play manager the more guys have a role the the less amount of time you have people stressing out when they don't need to be stressed out so if all you have is the closer than you have six or seven other guys. That are literally having a heart attack every time. The starting pitcher stretches his hamstring. Or guys like you said just exhausted and if you can work back okay well. This guy is the eighth inning. Or this guy's the right hander. That you get skits ground balls this the more you can piece it together so that you know when the phone rings guys have a pretty good i think the better off you're going to be and yea just if you have to sit out there for one hundred sixty two games thinking at any moment. You're the game. It's a challenge. And i it's just not the not setting yourself up for success. It's exhausting i remember. I was the six or seven guy or the first or second inning guy for half the season in two thousand eighteen and the whole year. I had i had the best year ever had. I think it's because i had to be testing. The limits of how locked in i could be on a given day like you know as a starting pitcher. Like if it's not your day this game starts and you checkout like i'm done. I'm you know the game's over. I eat i go home. I like hang out with my wife. Hang out with my kids. I go straight to sleep. No problem when i was a reliever omega the When the twenty seven th out happened. I was like now i finally get to like check out and it might be eleven o'clock at night depending on the game and so it was. I was two o'clock in the morning before. I could actually like wind down and go to bed and over the course of a season like that takes it's toll on you and i was able to have some success but still i remember telling people like this is no joke. Like it's it's a straight offensive linemen standpoint like you get no credit as a middle reliever but you better put in the work because if you get exposed like you have twelve good outings in a row. But you're gonna have to talk the medium thirteenth one where you give up the homer in the game in the sixth inning. Only time they talked to you. Yeah oh my god and you've had speaking to the media you've had enough experience on your belt talking to me to you understand how it works. Do you do get frustrated with them when they come over to. You know they're going to come over to your like sitting on your phone. You're already dressed your shower. You see them in their little scrum in the corner and then at this is not twenty twenty but like in former years. Are you like. I know you're gonna come over here but i don't wanna talk to you but i'm going to. I think that's always been my approach at the time. Yeah it's the last thing you want to go home on sundays. You want to crawl into a little hole. You want to get out of there. Because they're not coming over there to talk to you you try to and you have a cleaning or something like that. They couldn't care less than you know you got to relive it and you got to take the blame but i just feel like if you give them the time of day and and you give them the you know professional courtesy and stand up there and just take your medicine. They'll treat you better in the long haul. And i've played a couple markets that are known to be bad and and granted i was never a star or anything like that but i just felt like a if you gave him the time of day you got to. You treated them. Well they gave you the benefit of the doubt and they kind of in some ways protected you so try to always take it that way. Just take your medicine suck it up. Get it over with because if you don't they're just gonna make it worse on you without a doubt. I mean new york and boston have notorious reputations when it comes to media but you know i've i've had the pleasure of being able to get to know some of the people in both cities and in houston and it's true like they are human beings and if you treat them white human beings and you treat them with professionalism that they try and treat you like at the end of the day they are the ones who are writing the stories about you. And they're the ones who are putting out the tweets about you and kind of gaining the momentum. More like they can. I mean they can build you a tear you down really really quickly and you know. Unfortunately reputation is is in their hands a lot of times yet after lasting experience with the you stood up up or you gave them. You know horrible. One word answers even if it's subconsciously they might bear you in the paper. Make it even worse on you. It's really true. You mentioned managers earlier and i. I know that you played for terry francona twice. You played in boston Which was a unique time for you. Because i was one of the times where you came in as a starter from miami correct and then transition to the bullpen. But that was actor you were. Non tendered is is a true. Yeah so the red sox traded for me as a weird like not a big time. Trade trade rumors of gone to the bottom of the page really quick got for dustin richardson and when i got traded i had. I mentioned that contract. I had some funny stuff on my contract with the marlins outta options and so oddly. It wasn't it couldn't have been more than a week or two later. You get a call from my agent and basically says hey the red sox game and tenderness why why did they. Trade tunnel went through the process of all right. Well okay so now. I'm a free agent but boston wanted me. Obviously they went out and got me. I got to know at the time ben. Sharing was an assistant. Gm to theo. And i guess been for whatever. Reason was the guy that kind of said. Let's target miller. Let's go get him. Whatever and i was able to kind of get my toes in the water but it became pretty clear that i was going to get a really good minor league deal from the red sox. Navy has some other opportunities. Where like the you know. The the depth chart was a little thinner than boston or or whatnot. But i had a place to believed in me and was gonna give me you know. I think a lot of stuff i needed to kind of right. The ship and i was. I was on the precipice of this. Not working out is i. I'm going to have to call back my college advisor and figure out what the next step in my life is but for me. That was like the best decision. I've probably made baseball. Was a or luckiest place. I've ended up was just that experience had in boston ended up in a great place. It worked out well. When i started my first year i started in pawtucket a Pretty well kind of locked. It in as i had an out coming up which is where i could basically said all right. If you're not gonna call him up the major leagues on the become a free agent again and basically forced him to be on the roster for a while a couple of that got buried the bullpen. Tom you mentioned earlier. The starting pitcher put on the bullpen for a time or two is usually. You're kind of the forgotten man pitch when the starter gets you're down by twenty not a good place to be but go into organization. That was no longer the guy that had headlined trade. That was supposed to be a prospect. I was just a guy on the roster. And if i helped the team win i was a positive factor. And that's all that mattered The media wasn't gonna talk to me. There were plenty of big names in boston to distract them from it just ended up being a great fit with a lot of great people and I think you know. Probably the turning point in my career is just ending up with that organization. Did tito contact you when you were trying to make the decision whether to come back to whether the signed back with boston on tendered. And if so like did he i mean obviously when you're going from the bullpen or from the starting rotation to the bullpen. The major plays a big role. Because he's the one who's gonna call your name and say like a urine at this point in time but what was y'alls relationship like at that point. Yeah i mean. He had a lot going on but he was really good to me. And you know like. I said i'll rave about everybody there. Everybody there was so good but for his tough of the year is that was on the organization. You know we that hugh september collapse and a certainly didn't help down the stretch but he was very positive. And i think that's what i needed and that's what a lot of people had their. Got up there and you know that whole that belief and you know. Can i find success. Sustain myself at this level he was just big at on. He put his arm round. You and saying like you got this. I believe in his way of doing it. Which is not as special communicate but just went along ways it You know. Even though i had a couple of bad starts ended the end of the year. You know the fact that you know. Hey this didn't go the way we wanted to but you got a bright future. You're on the right direction. How far that went from me at the time was huge and tears. Just so good at that with guys in put on positive light on things and i think appreciating how hard the game is and how much work it takes and how many things have to go right for you to find that success because honestly that was his career and You know for him to to do that into to take interest to me. When i was probably the twenty fifth most important down that roster for awhile you know there were literally twenty guys that were more likely to contribute that night but you know there was an interest in making sure that you know. My career was going right direction. They were going to help me. And that i was going to help the red sox in a growing capacity. Hopefully did that relationship help when you got traded over to cleveland in twenty sixteen in. May that made that run to the world series. I mean arguably. I would say obviously your probably best three months stretch in your career but arguably one of the best stretches of reliever in baseball history. I think that i went over there. And i know what kind of club s tito is gonna have which is very loose You know the you don't wanna say the players run it but it's just there's something he does and i've seen clubhouses run a completely different way and be successful as well. But i think i do what i was getting into. Even though i didn't really know too many guys over there remember. I you know napoli was there and that might have been it that i had any sort of relationship with but i i just think haven't don't in his office and having a familiar face in having him kind of statue up and set the tone when a long ways and again you talk about how lucky i've been like i ended up on a team. That was just special with a group of guys that i made friendships over there. In the time that i was in cleveland that i think last my lifetime is just such a good group. Been you know. There's a reason he was successful. And you know. I think tito probably deserves credit for starting the the culture that a manager can. I think that's the difference. Make more southern deciding win to steal you know between you know bullpen management and set in the culture of a team known what your personalities are just so good at that. Yeah i remember talking. John smoltz and him talking about bobby cox and the amount of times that you make a decision on the field. That is just a guaranteed. This is the right. Move it slim as manager. There's all you're always cutting both ways like if you put one guy in you're not putting another guy in if you pinch hit one guy. You're not getting another guy and you know the result of that immediately whether it's a success or failure so it's hard to get a manager in the big leagues who has a stellar reputation. All the way through in terms of game management. Because you're gonna win. You're gonna lose games based on what you do but it's the clubhouse atmosphere kind of the culture like you talked about. It's being set that. I think distinguishes managers one from another. And you've played for quite a few at this point in time you. You mentioned scheldt because he was an interesting guy to me when they made higher in saint louis because he wasn't necessarily the sexy name he wasn't necessarily the guy that's got all the experience in the world's going to bring in but his reputation within the organization seem to be outstanding is. Is that what you felt being around there. Yes i have an interesting kind of tie back to chilton the sense that so when i was a free agent going into last year looking for a place to play find out that saint louis as possible suitor. He was travel ball coach for some of my college teammates. And you know not long. After they came to college he decided. I want to try my hand pro ball in just a real like kind of a baseball. Lifer kinda guy. I think that he took a job as a scout or something and really wanted to coach but that was the opening night at the time. And anyway so. I'm looking at saint louis and i have college buddies calling me and saying hey like this. Saint louis stuff's real like he's awesome. We had them as day is like you know to your point. I think that when metheny was let go show. It was the obvious. Use your bench coach. He becomes manager but he had so much success and he just moved up so fast and the players embrace some guys had them in the minor leagues when he took over. They had success at the major league level and the saint louis job is gonna be one of the top two three four jobs in baseball for manager and yeah you think usually that goes to the the big sexy name. You know who who. Who's currently out there that everybody's going after and at the same time if you if you know and you watch him work you know that you know. He's perfect for the job and and deserving and he's done an awesome job. It's a. It's a really neat story and you know i hope more people get to hear it because it's It's really fun to be part of from atlanta i. I've seen the same thing. Kind of play out in atlanta with brian snicker who was also not the sexy name when he came in not the guy who is necessarily going to be the next picked to be the braves manager. I feel like there's three jobs in the in the national league that are if you get like this is the job. And it's saint louis trump and atlanta see. I would say. I would put san francisco in there as well but like these big big baseball towns old baseball teams teams have had success teams that expect to have success. And so when you bring a manager end like you really need them to perform to to set that culture immediately and it kind of makes sense. That guys. like she'll guys like snicker who have been in the culture that has been winning for a long time would kind of step into a role like that but from the outside you kind of it's it's not necessarily the most exciting pick right for fans but it works on the name. I think it just it adds to you mentioned places that have you know big media big fan bases the therefore you have the big media you know. I had bobby v. in boston and it was just i mean right out of the gates you know it was. I don't know what you'd call it. But you know. Bobby was great for me. I honestly like that. Was you mentioned you my time under tito the got my real transition to the bullpen was the two thousand twelve year. Bobby was the manager in boston and trust me a lot went wrong a lot. It was not a smooth sailing year but for me in the bullpen. It was great in the way he handled me in the way that you know. I got pitched and the positivity that he personally gave me you. Our season at year was a disaster. It didn't go well but at the same time you throw a big name like that they personality into a big market and it just seems like it may be easier to kind of okay. We'll maybe we didn't give you a big sexy name. we're here. this is all business is not. there is no sideshow. there's no in. David ross has done great so far in chicago. But it just seems like you know those big personalities there's more room for combustion things to kinda explode and blow up and if you find the right guy law come down take make given the job true and at this point in your career. You've had a lot of successes but you've also like you mentioned had had quite a few failures in baseball which anybody has been around for as long as you have experienced it. But i think the way that you've experienced it Both coming onto the so quickly and then like you said having to kind of work your way into teams. After that i think makes you probably a little bit more aware. Of what a game like this does to you or your psyche and your your mentality What have you learned from both your successes in your failures at this point in baseball because there is something to be said for making yourself a more well rounded person in general through these things Having my experience with you so far it feels like. You're a pretty well rounded person. And i i would assume that these things definitely play into it. I appreciate that. And i hope i am. Yeah i think that you probably hear a lot. But to me it rings true frie- learn a lot more from my failures and how i've handled them and i can look back and i don't think i was immature as a a twenty one year old compared to my peers. But i've definitely matured a lot. And i think that those times when i was really struggling and things are really tough coming through that in sticking it out and and just driving and finding a way to not give up and make it work and keep thinking that somehow spin all that negative it then tonight and later head on the pillow or when you go into work the next day that this positive i'm gonna figure out i'm gonna find what it is. I'm gonna you know something's going to click. I'm going to get better today. You know is something that translates to everything in your life. That that's always going to apply to whatever's going on in your life and i think that it's just a game that humbles you you learn maybe not to get too Too high on your horse or or you know. Stay on a soapbox too often. Because it'll beat you down as soon as you get to that point. And how many times do you think all right. I got it figured out today. You know that night go so many times though. I think that you mentioned the failures a couple times. It's it's still worth that. Are we would do it or we would. You know wouldn't keep doing it. And i hope been able to take some of my experiences. And and as i've kind of become an older guy a clubhouse pass onto some of these other guys and hope they may be you know understand that it's not the end of the world when something go your way be ready tomorrow or these are experiences. I went through a maybe. They won't be as hard on you. Because you can relate or that kind of thing. So i've i can look back and see how much i've grown and i think i've become better for it are you. Are you big hazing guy. Did you get hazed early on you. Don't you don't strike me as the hazing guy. So i wanna know i. I don't think i am a try. Take you pre easy on the guys. I didn't get hazed heart. It's funny you mentioned. Burland her. Because i think when i went into that detroit house expectation was adjusted. Got a big personality and yeah. He came up dominated rookie of the year so house now through a no hitter and one of the most impressive things ever seen he threw that no houston hundred two of the ninth inning of his no hitter as completely normal but i think there was so much attention on like he and zoom iowa. Big name though in one hundred and five miles an hour an expectation that it was that i was gonna to the clubhouse and be like just a huge personality and you know i think i did a good job of trying to don't speak unless spoken to and i certainly made. Some mistakes are wore the wrong shoes to the clubhouse hypoth- thing. I think todd john's tied my shoes up in the metrodome and through over like one of the pipes about thirty feet up in the air because they were they didn't meet his standards of what should wear the field at at the town But you know what that was such an awesome team to come into and generally. When was the manager. We had guys with so much. I mean i think there were a seven or eight guys. More than fifteen service time on. That team is incredible and it was a winning team. I think going into a winning culture. You know the idea is hey. The rookies needs to carry the beer bag at the bullpen bag ready. You know. i'm going to give him a hard time but we also they're here to help us when we're trying to win a world series and you got to go out to dinner all time and you know the same guy that might yell at you for having the wrong type of gummy bears in the bullpen bag. Also you know. I is shown you how he holds his slider and talk to you about how he prepares for the game. And and what it takes in I think that even though i didn't maybe take off in a short i got traded away that offseason after my first full season. Really the amount that i learned from that group was incredible. I one of my favorite experiences in baseball is two starting pitchers for that team. There was the guy on the mount and the other four guys all sat on the bench and watch the game and just talked about the entire time. And just the amount. I learn listening to kenny. Rogers just berlin is just. I might not have been ready to apply but kenny rogers was drawn a piece of paper. Bright in the dirt. You know during a game and you know just again. The lucky to be there and just cut a lot of breaks. I think that's what it takes. I'm this is my like mental disconnect here. Because i'm with you like i. I'm fully anti hazing. I think garbage it's stupid. I don't think it does a whole lot but when it happened to me when i was coming up you're right like guys would shit on me in one breath in the next breath like help me out with my career kind of bring me along and sitting here now like ten years later on it did help. It actually did help. But the amount of times of guys who like didn't make it as far as i am one lucky enough to to get to where i am to be able to have that perspective. Just look like a dick. If you do that. So i take it upon myself to like. Put my arm around young guys and be like it's gonna be okay man like i know you're overwhelmed. I know everything feels like. You're doing it wrong right now but like just just relaxed your energy your job. There's a right way to do it. And if you do it right and deering and you know it's funny. One of the guys probably got his hardest on me as a guy on the bulk of johnny walker and he was hard on me like in the way that like. I'm picking on the rookie and it's funny to everybody else and he's doing like i'm running back and forth across the field or whatever it is but you know what when i got called up so i got called up from all. Those guys didn't know like nobody gave me advice on what to do. He called my hotel room and like media a lobby. I wouldn't have known what to wear the field that i wouldn't have known how to get to the field. I probably have written the bus and gotten aired asset like he gave me a heads up and walk me through all that stuff and one on one. It was incredible. Like i've learned so much in at the same time. If there are more guys around at their five or six guys on team around he was just wearing the how it was like. I try to serve him. You know but heavy on the bus and and you know if the stadium dinner. But that wasn't their fault. That was my fault that was rx south and At you get an appreciation for you know routines and wipe. Things are done that way. And you know maybe it's harder it's embarrassing or it's funner biles but if they put their arm round you teach you the rest of the time. That's part of. What makes you a team. That's why they would pick on yet. They didn't love you. i think. That's probably the sign signing. You're not fitting in his win win. Nobody is talking to you messing with you. That's it's there's definitely overlying. I'm with you one hundred percent on that. I'm glad we've seen a lot of that. Go away. But i did my dressing up. I do that a couple of times and if you do it right. I it's funny. It's a good experience and it. It's a positive memory if it's done right if all these things are in the spirit of building the team and building like the player from his career standpoint. If that's what your goal is going into it then like it's going to be fine. You're going to do it right. Like guys are going to get over As we're not gonna take things too personally but if it like becomes truly mean spirited like the old days it truly was like this guy is about to take my job so like i'm going to make his life as shitty as possible and i think that definitely by the time i got in the league that had that had pretty much changed like guys were just doing it more because it had been done to them and they thought this kind of the way it's done and at this point like how young the league is at this point you kind of don't have the off the leeway as an as an older guy to be like to make this guy's life hard because you need him to perform on the field like now you need him to win games for you now because you're trying to make playoffs. Yeah and i. I think it. I think it's definitely gone that way. and i think it's a positive and you know you you still. There's ways to do team building without embarrassing guys are making them feel insecure or not. Wanna be around or or wanted to go you know hide out or or whatnot. Stay away from certain people. So it's a it's a positive development most ways but you know every now and then we can admit. We miss the good old days. If you're not gonna be a baseball player if it was not in the cards for you what would you have done for work. So good question. I thought about it. Like i feel like that's a classic question as you get to play a game for a living and everything's onto dory and fun and make a fortune and you beat the system which is all true. But i don't know. I think of myself as like a business minded person. I was in the business school and college. Never i didn't pick like a you know what direction i was going to go accounting or marketing or anything like that. But i don't know and i'm glad i never had to make that decision. I don't know. I find the law interesting. I could you know lawyer. I can tell you what it would be as accounting. I hated accounting class. And i had a great teacher. Actually the teacher. I had at carolina world famous. I actually read about is randomly and some book. He pops up people telling stories about him. He's like one of the greatest teachers. You know in the country for anything and i had him he was great. He was entertaining and very good. I just accounting did click for me to staring numbers and i have a lot of friends or accounts. I tell them all the time. My dad's account. Like how the hell do you guys do this for living. I'm glad somebody's willing to do it. Because you guys are nuts. But i don't know something business related i think. Is that why you got interested in union stuff. Because i know for latino you're the al rep for the players union right now and have been for a few years How how did that kind of start. What what kind of. Gosh you moving in this direction towards union representation so you got into professional baseball and i call up the major leagues and it's all over. There's so many roles you have options and days and you got sign this paperwork and you know put your money in your 401k and all these different things and it's overwhelming and there's you know we have the the cba is this book that is all lawyer talk and you know you can sit down and try to read it and it's just so far of your head like oh my gosh. What am i. Getting into your. You feel like you're constantly asked. Teammates are calling somebody. You're you're agent. What does this mean how. I handle this so i was in that phase. I got traded to florida my first year there and it was actually on my start day route in seattle. I the ballpark in the clubhouse doors are locked my quote in the world liked. I miss a team. Meeting like debt is the game in the fifth inning. And i like didn't show up cold sweat immediately. Yeah yes like knock on the door. Whatever somebody comes in unlocks and it's just the rap voter whatever some guy right cool like i didn't mess anything up so i sit in the back of the room and my buddy next to me. Tasking leg is. Hey you voted you teen rap on my life. You're joking right. He's like no. I'm dead serious. So the meeting ins. And i'm like you kidding right. There's no way on that on the actual team rep here you know how. How do you nominate somebody. That's not here. We'll sure enough. I don't know if don fehr was there. Just michael you know who they walked on and say. Yeah you we elected you t. If you wanna take it clear up for the marlins and basically said i think i think matt trainer been the rap before and look you know it seemed like right kind of guy for your you chun some interest. You know we think you're gonna be here for a while. You went to college for three years. Yeah you clearly cut out for and it just kind of forced into the door. And i loved it and the sense that i felt like i learned so much by being involved by answering other guys questions. I learned more about it. I actually you know had first hand experience and selfishly felt like it gave me an opportunity to do something that was. you mentioned. kind. Of like what i do. If i wasn't playing baseball. Maybe i can use these connections or these experiences whenever baseball doesn't it i. I hope i go on have a long career make enough money to not worry about it and do this and that but you know i might need this and this is an opportunity for me to potentially have something to put on a resume if i do need a job so a little bit of both of those but you know at the time. You know so intrigued by michael. Weiner is such a great personality. And i definitely i drink the kool aid when it comes to guys before as sacrifice so much for us to have everything sweet as it is in. I debate this much money into have all these great benefits and you know the game that we have is so incredible for us because other people sacrificed a ton to move forward in. Its count one of those. Pay it forward at something. i'm. I'm proud that i've done and i think it's The the selfish part of what. I may are this this kind of gone away and it's something that i just think that is as players really really important and hopefully i've left a positive impact on it can say that you have. I have been involved now for a few years. Have kind of senior leadership Throughout this whole process in unprecedented times this year and leading up to new. Cba is in past cpa's and i think that You know. I think the game is better off for you doing this and obviously we as players really appreciate it but this is one of those things where you're right like you don't get a chance you don't get any concrete opportunity to leave an impact in the game other than your stats and a lot of ways and i think Both being teammate. And which is a little bit more ethereal like. You don't really know what being a good teammate is. Until you're outside of the game in other guys were speaking speaking about but this is one of those things where you could actually make concrete decisions about things and some are going to be great and some are gonna you know not be so great and we've experienced both both Nc as and and now this year. But i think moving forward your appreciation for what we have and what we need to preserve. Moving forward has been influential in my life. And i think in a lot of guys coming forward. So i appreciate it into thank you for being on. I got one more question for you. It is not serious at all but we ask everybody. What was the last thing that you listened to music. Wise on purpose wrassling. I listen to music whereas purpose Swipe out of this. And look i'm trying to think. What did i have on. We're on the bus last night. Are you the dj on the bus. No no it was a we got into like two thirty. So quiet ride. In and and with covid the buses are like you're mixed in with staff. And i think moselle the line. The buses like my favorite time during the season. That is such a huge bummer. I know is what the the bigly twenty. I'd been thinking about like as as things as you see the the the sun setting on a career like the the things that i miss are things like that. Which is the oddest thing. But i think i was listening to drive by truckers last night. So yeah like a a southern rock jason. His bells formerly part of that kind of thing so l. Yes some athens. Some athens georgia rock. I mean i'm from gainesville florida guy. Probably but you know athens my neck of the woods yet. We'll have to go to a cocktail party at some point if when things get back to andrew thank you so much for being on here man. It's been a pleasure. I wish you the best of luck this season. Stay healthy kick some ass. Go in world series. Why not. it's twenty twenty. Just do it. Somebody's gotta do it. Why not us. Hey i appreciate it gonna blast. Thank you perfect you soon. All right wanted not to be so hard s warne. They always pollen evidence down.

Effectively Wild Episode 1360: The Team Fun Draft

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

1:24:38 hr | 2 years ago

Effectively Wild Episode 1360: The Team Fun Draft

"Brown. Will pick up. Back home. Good morning. Welcome to episode thirteen. Sixty of Beckton Lee wild baseball, podcast dot com. Brought to you by how patriot supporters and Sam Miller ESPN along with the whole game. Make rouse from wraps in Ben limbered of the ringer folk. Folks. How you doing melt you're both year because we're going to do eight RAB a long drought. So it might be a good idea. He to minimum, particularly because this draft will provide lots of opportunity for fans are so if you wanted to prince banter about Chris Davis. Well, I guarantee you we're gonna be talking about the Orioles at some point Strath and whether Chris Davis soul crushing depressing right now. But that said, do you do you have anything that simply must be said. Well, I just wanted to point has another hit with stay for Chris Davis. Another outlets appearance for Trevor Rosenthal and another home run for Mike trout. And so if we look at the fan, graphs live leaderboard right now, we see that might trout is leading other baseball players in wins above replacement, and I wonder whether we have to revisit our podcast, maxim that stat speak come real that. We can start trusting them when Mike trout is the world leader because I think by. Trout has gotten too good for that to be true. He's the MVP wereleader no on wealth the end of April seventh, and it is obviously too soon to trust other player stats. So what do we do about this? Perhaps we could introduce it a caveat. Which is that. Yes. He is. He is right there in the leader. But perhaps he needs to also not share our most searched players list with the legs of Satan Beckham, or you know, Chris Davis or even dance be Swanson. Sorry dance. Be thank you gotta go. Maybe their conditions to his his rival while the rest of the goofiness sort self out. I personally would say that it is not too early. The maxim is true, the maximum holds the main thing is that that was always more about trying to say something about my trout than trying to say something about the stats. So I still think we can indulge feels like he's gotten better again. I'm sure we'll have time to talk about that some other time, but. It was like we're in this very episode. Okay. Feel sick about time to write the annual MC trout is better again article. So. Yeah tip. I all right. Real quick. The L. Russell Email address. Add got we got. We got we did get a few people who replied with very satisfying explanations for why this ad exists in the format does. And so I'm just going to pick one of the responses from rob who says I think the radio spot you played in Thursday's episode was a program electric review management radio ad if a US employer wants to hire a foreign worker for a given position. It must prove that doing. So would not effectively take job opportunity from US citizen, P E, R M haram. 'electronic LaRussa is essentially a shorthand for this process, the employer certifies that it has tried without success to hire a US worker for the position in question among other requirements, the employer must advertise for the position in a variety of outlets, the processes, criticized for being pro forma, it is thought that some employers game the system by placing ads that are extremely unlikely for one reason or another to attract a significant number of applicants so some people suggested that this ad could be intentionally apay or difficult to follow some suggested. That it's simply an ad that nobody really cared about. And so therefore it was sloppily done. And nobody minded if it was difficult or perhaps something in between. I think that's seems very reasonable quite possibly maybe. True. Who knows but I'm certainly accepting this explanation, and I don't know whether it makes it more fun or less fun to think of this as as that. But I feel like we have to be honest with you. I think it made it a little less fund for me kind of. I enjoyed thinking that it was just a really incompetently produced ad and that they just didn't realize how impossible it was to contact us address. If it's actually this nefarious attempt to skirt regulations, and and exclude some people from applying that a little less fun little less. But also to think that this is someone's job was to conjure up L Russell and all the circumstances by which they could create this Email address for him. And I don't know. I mean, I like to hear about people's jobs, and this is a person who had. Love to meet at a party and ask about their job. Not not L Russell. But the creator of the L wrestle Email address better than the suggestion. We received that this was some nefarious shadowy criminal organization activating sleeper cell. People. I like it better than that explanation. Which sounds very scary. Maybe maybe I'll Russell Email us and let us know. Okay. All right. So the draft that we're doing today is all thirty teams drafted by how fun they are. This is inspired by the twins Email question that we answered last week, which was are the twins, suddenly fun. I think we could all agree that for a long time unless you were really interested in the twins. They weren't uptick yearly funding they were sort of notably unfunny, notably, blah. But they have arguably become fun. We will find out just how fun when when we draft them at some point in this strap, but we're just gonna go around and everybody is going to get to draft whoever. They think is the best most fun are most fun team still on the board. So specifically not the best you can be fun and bad. You can be boring in good each of us will have our own definition of fun, and we'll probably get into that expose some of our biases. Learn in fact, I would say learn some of our own biases that we didn't even know we had and and get through all thirty teams. I would. Maybe suggest that we pick the team in a while. When we pick the team also maybe named the player that first comes to mind to you as as the fun player on the team or a player you particularly think as fun or who you think of I as fun if that works, okay? In some cases, I won't be picking teams primarily because of the players on them though, short. You can say, yeah, I guess you could say whatever you find fun about them. All right. So so let's do that. I've got mine all ordered. So whenever you guys pick a team. I'm probably going to tell you where they were on mine yet. I have mine order. Also, don't I'm on the east prepared for this drift a habit. You probably talked to some scouts. Just ran out of time. I plan to rake them off, but it'd be waiting this thing. Got your baseball reference to run you ass- a query order. Right. All right. We'll Ben why don't you want you lead off? Okay. Well, I think I will actually take the angels as most salty. Not me. Wow. Okay. I think I will. And that is primarily because my trout is the most fun player. I think and secondarily because Shohei Otani is the second most fun player in. They're both on this team. Intonations is also on this team. I find him very fun last year. The angels were absolutely bar. None the team that I watched the most they were my go-to MLB TV team west. So as the season went on because tiny got hurt and the agents just fell out of it. But because of trout in Otani and because they're moderately competitive. They're like one of the few AOL teams that are kind of on the bubble somewhere. Like if I had to dispense with a whole team. I think it would pain me the most nothing to know what some players on the angels were doing that's how I think of it like trap to me. Well, phrased very narrowly defined. Yeah. That's it's like there's potential for the angels to just an interesting team and to be in a pennant race and be contending for wildcard. And all those things that might make a team more fun. But to me like trash just the most compelling ongoing story in baseball every plate appearance. He makes feels like it is adding to a two decades long story and his just building on on the previous plate appearance. And we know that he's the best player ever through this age. Will he be the best player ever through that age? Will he be the best player ever? That is just I think the most ongoing constant in the sport for me. And that's the most indispensable thing for me. But so okay. So you you have trout is the most interesting player on the team. Then Otani is the second most than Simmons is the third most. But who's the fourth most interesting angel? I don't know that matters. No. It's definitely either leadoff hitter. Thomas. Stella number three hundred Justin bore right or would be could be opening day starter Trevor K hill or closer, Cody. Alan those guys are all like knock your socks off all time. Okay pools interesting to be in kind of a sad. Yeah. Fun, though, not fun. But but must watch in a sense. And I am eager to know. What happens to him in like does it become a political diplomatic issue at some point where you just can't play them anymore into how does he handle that? And so that is somewhat interesting to me. But it almost doesn't matter to me that the drop off from those top two two other players in baseball except for perhaps one that we will also be talking about during this podcast is so huge for me that they are the ones they're like two of the only players in baseball would get me to change the channel. Honestly, there aren't that many players who would get me to change the channel. I might choose one team over another because it has a bunch of players, but like I'll just change the channel to watch those two guys play and that weighs pretty heavily for me. That's fair. I had them. I had them thirteenth. I have I had him fifteenth which makes me worry that I would vote against Mike. Trout on MVP Belet blow something uncomfortable about myself. I don't like it shroud. Trout is very fun. And I there number fifteen because of trout about Otani is that he he is very fun. But he's a well for one thing he's not playing right now. And I don't I mean, all these are federal I don't know how much we consider who's playing today versus who's playing in a month versus what he's going to be doing a year from now a year for more interesting than he will be when he comes back in a month, and he's just a DA trae. So that's one thing. But the other thing is that it will be interesting to see how fat how how fun Otani is going forward. Just because he doesn't do both things at once. And while he is very interesting as a thing that exists when you're watching him, you never actually get the see the two things at once like, it's Tim really good ingredients that just don't make. They don't they're never in the same recipe, right? And so I had a good time with Otani last year he was rookie. And I don't know if I don't know. I just don't know yet. Whether the interest is gonna totally hold. I'm more interested in I guess, I'm interested in him as to individual parts. But I I don't know. I can't promise I'm going to be totally like turned the game over to him. When when he's when he's been your three or four year five of this. Yeah. If it were NL thing in was a chance that he might be like running around mid inning than that. Interesting. Yeah. I hold out hope that one day he will play the field. But yeah this year. Probably now, I definitely watched every Tani start last year. And so I guess I am curious to see if my level of excitement if he performs in such a way with just the bat that I feel compelled in the same way that I do when Travis you know at the plates. I gotta go. Switch over there. Gonna make sure I see that I suppose that there is there's like unexplored upside their terms of my level of enjoyment. We'll saying it's a bad pick. Ben were saying it's much higher pick than either of us were willing to make all we're saying foot is subjective. I suppose, but yeah, I've been the angels right now in sets almost like, I guess, it's not fun. But it's something to marvel at just how much better trout is than everyone else in that lineup. And how terrible the lineup has been other than I guess that's not an argument for picking them. But they're going to get some guys back, and they'll be better in the kind of competitive. So it's something I am interested in not just because he was a top ten hitter in baseball last year on a per plate appearance basis. And now if he is just focusing on one thing does that mean, he can even better. And if he is than does that jeopardize the two way thing because you don't want him to get hurt again or distract him. So all that is compelling and interesting to me even cut interested in like brass Mus the second time around and seeing if. He actually has evolved is different this time as has been suggested and reported. So it's enough for me. And I understand why it would be a lot lower for a lot of people. All right, Mang, your I get to go. I am taking the Phillies and gosh, the most fun player, you know, like Harper feels like an important part of this definitely part of the pick. But in terms of the most fun, the most fun. I think it probably is harbor, but that feels obvious we try so hard to be clever. So I I actually Mike go with real motos just because he is in a in an environment where we know pitching important pitch Remy's important. But at times know that it is sort of flattening in terms of the difference in scale, he is actually one of the few catchers where I I appreciate notice the difference in the way that he for. Versus other guys end. Yeah. I just think that they the position players are great fun. Even the ones who are kind of on sort of the tailings their careers like maccagnan's been playing great that's delightful. Everybody looks good in those Phillies. Uniforms, 'cause they're great. You know, Aaron Nola is great fun that bullpen has been. It's been weird in. Okay. So yeah, I'm curious to see if the defense is any better than it has than it was last year when it was very very poor. And I think that they are going to have a long playoff run. And I also think they have the potential to you know, at the deadline makes moves if they want to to ensure that one playoff run. And so I'm picking the Phillies. That's a good pick Bryce Harper is always fun. And it is not a cliche to acknowledge that. Yeah, he's a fun ballplayer. And right now, it seems like he is very eager to make me like him. Like like that really seems like he is in full like like I'm going to do what it takes to make you like me. And and I'm enjoying that. I mean, not like that. I feel I feel I don't this could easily turn the sound like me being cynical in the opposite of like appreciating it, but like the bet flipped. I like the bat flip was was Priore castrated. Like, I've he he thought like what I'm gonna flip a bat. I'm gonna hit a home run. And then I'm gonna flip a bat. And he practiced that baffler like he practiced that bat flip a bunch because he wanted people to write columns criticizing the baffling, and then other people write columns talking about the backflip was and I Meyer the need to be liked. I mean, we're social creatures were we're we we see we build. Ourself identity through the reflections of other people. And I have great empathy for that that feeling that he has that he wants me to like him. And so all right. I'm on board, buddy. Yeah. I feel the same way set the same thing to Michael Bevan less week that I always kinda liked road. Because I had the feeling that he wanted me to like him. Yeah. That set him apart from say, Dirk koetter or someone like that who probably couldn't really care less if like two or just took it for granted that I liked him. And so to me it humanizes them to others. It seems insincere phony or calculated and in a way, it is suppose, but it still to me it just it's a human emotion that these athletic superwealthy, God type people actually care what you think of them. I think that there's something about, you know, I appreciate good stagecraft. This isn't entertainment product at the end of the day. I think that he has a very good sense for drama. Like, he he knows where the beats are. He, you know, he knows where he needs to fill phila- beat in a game and do thing, and you know, Unabomber very deep into the into the stance. I just there's a there's a a human need to be liked. But I also think he has an appreciation for the art of stagecraft. And I I like that think it's good. I at the Phillies, this is gonna sound I had them tenth. But I have a tier of ten teams that are all fairly. Yes. There's a lot of compression. So they were the last. Yeah, they were the lesson that to your, but I like him the fun. All right. My pick is the dodgers who I think are just so fun for one thing. They throw strikes they are the strike throwing team in baseball. And a ballgame is more fun. When you're throwing strikes few things are less fun than watching team try to find it. And so I appreciate that. But also, they are you know, what they remind they have so many good players like they go like twenty nine guys deep. Like, they're so deep with good players that it reminds me of like like like really good seasons of lost or game of thrones or something where there's like seven storylines going at once that are all solid, and you just flip from one or the other and everyone you're like, oh, yeah. Like, I want to hear about this. And so I appreciate that. There's always a good ballplayer on my screen when when they're playing in. I like the way that they can use those ballplayers in interesting ways. I like that. I still think we is there like snow give them a little bit of credit for having week. Even though like the front of my brain knows that they don't. So I like all of them. I also feel like remember in twenty seventeen when they had they were on pace to win like a hundred nineteen games in through July. And then they they collapsed, and then they weren't very good last year either. But in my head, I've never really reevaluated them since they were on that pays I still think of them as just this incredibly good team that is just dominant and they. It seems like they're always crushing teams in. So I just like I this again, you don't have to be good to be fun. But I just appreciate how just non stop. They are. They just keep coming at you with good ball players. And I think that Julio aureus is my is my favorite one. I mean, just you know, he's he's really still very young. And he's very good. I like watching him pitch. Okay. Will I think for my next pick gonna make sort of a similar one? Maybe I'm gonna take the Astros. I think I would've taken the Phillies. Probably if mccaddon but taking the Astros just because I think they're the best baseball team. And that is not necessarily the same as the most fun baseball team. I guess I don't think they're the most fun baseball team. But I think they're close. And I appreciate the way that they have gone about this. I someone who just wrote about player development. I am kind of fascinated by the breakthroughs that they've had on that side of things. Obviously, they are not always the most likeable team and the easiest to root for team, and you have to deal with Roberto as soon of being there and having that constant reminder of the way that they operate. So that is the opposite of fun on the other hand, they also have just I mean, it's kind of like you said about the dodgers just so many good players on the team. And so many fun players. I guess altuve as kind of the default obvious fund guy on this team. But I'm also really interested in Carl Korea and seeing if he can have a big breakthrough season I like watching all of their pitchers, basically their pitching staff is just I mean in terms of just stuff and just ratio of like, really nasty giftable pitches. That's probably the highest with the esters. You get furrow enter you get coal you get to even watch like their annual guy who they make much better. And wait Miley will probably be that guy this year, and he'll just. Be amazing all year, and that'll be kind of fun. And then you get to watch like the wave of young guys come up who are also amazing. So you get to see Jess James, and you get to see farce Whitley and on and on. There's just a, you know, an endless bottomless well of those guys so just in terms of sheer dominance and you saw the run differential last year. And if anything I felt like they underachieve potentially last year. So they probably won't be involved in a close race. I don't know how much we're factoring that in here. I guess we can each approach that how we want to approach that. And I don't know whether we're factoring in like playoff likelihood either. Like, I expect the Astros to play more baseball than anyone else this year. I don't know if that counts or not. But that's that's something you'll get to watch a lot of Astros. It's just you know, you wanna watch baseball in twenty nineteen and see the team that is most emblematic of how baseball works now. In a lot of ways, I think it's and you get also watch their lineup which. Which used to be very strikeout. Heavy and now just kinda does everything. Well, doesn't strike out. And yet also hits for power doesn't chase the whole let just kind of model team right now for peddler worse. Can't believe that you don't think that the nine into mariner start a sustainable Jones for the west, Jerry you sorry. I I I don't know if I think that playoff future playoff appearances affect my rankings, but pass playoff appearances definitely do having seen players on the postseason stage gives me more interest in them. I I think if Rafael Devers, for instance, was like I mean sorry make but mariner I wouldn't be that excited. But like, I really liked Evers. Like, I'm excited to see him. You know, come up because I think of him as like that guy who always hits in October, and George Springer is kind of the same way those moments sear into your memory, Lance mccullers will always be. Lance mccullers from the postseason that. Yep. My he was fifth. Sorry, they were fifth online, by the way. Okay. I had them. I the fifth online to no. Gonna make runs at some lower teams. I suspect it's my turn. I'm taking the Padres. I swear that. I am not taking any of these teams based on their affiliation with fan, graphs, homes coincidental. Sort of thing. I. Every team has won. So can we stop for? I think there are a lot of things I like about this Padres team. I mean in a lotta ways this is acknowledging that the Padres have likely not quite arrived yet. Although, you know, they're playing quite well right now, but they have a very fun mix of having been willing to spend money in anticipation of being good just like a strategy, I support. So it's cool that they were not deterred by the sunk cost of air Cozma when they went out and sign Manny Machado. Appreciate that. Their ownership appears receptive to the idea that like they should just put really good players on the field and worry about service diamond where they are six years from now six years from now. So the story that Machado hosmer went to ownership and said, you know, Tateishi just be up, and we should just start Lear with him up. Our find lovely charming indicative of the sort of brand of baseball. They wanna play an acknowledgement of where they sit in the sports market in San Diego. More like the only game in town. Chris paddock was my rookie of the year pick for the NFL. So I'm very invested in him in his fastball, which just comes in a really uncomfortable funky in a uncomfortable funky way. And so is fun. And I think that they are one of those teams that is trying to win. An also lends itself to really interesting player development in sort of consolidation story around the deadlines, they have all of these very talented young prospects who were were getting ready to do the the west as as part of our lists van Grafton. I've been assured that the Padres list will be at least as long as the ruthless was. But figuring out how they move some of those guys in pick the guys they wanna keep in shift. Some of them at the deadline to get other pieces. I think allows us to enjoy the strategy story while also like having guys like tees up in them spending money. So we can enjoy it. But not feel kind of a key about it from labor. Perspective, which was nice kind of rare in baseball right now. So I just I just like them they've good uniforms. Also, the play a cool ballpark. And I think it will be nice to have some real competition in in the west for the dodgers in that that will be them for a long time. So I had them as my second team behind Philly. And I feel like I've either done my draft rankings wrong or I'm running away with this. I can't decide which can't decide we're all your the win. This does. It's just fun. Everyone just gets fun. Completely agree with you on just about everything you said, yeah, I did a whole podcast segment with on the ringer show this past week just because like we didn't know what to talk about. And I was like well in watching the patriots. And he was like I've been watching the padras. And then we just talked about watching the padras, basically, which is not something you've been able to say for really long time, which I think is a big part of their appeal. It's not just that they're fun, and they're young and they're up and coming, and you can kind of root for them free because of the decisions that you mentioned. But also, it's just like a I or the first really long time that we've been able to say this about the Padres. And it's like new blood. This is fun and interesting. So I would've taken them very soon. If you hadn't may only hesitation is that they may very well end up with seventy something wins, or which, you know, they're they're more of like a a long term play in a way. But a lot of the guys who are going to be on the next Padres. Great team are already on. On this Padres team. Maybe they're not quite as good as they're going to be yet. But you can see them every day. And that's a lot of fun. Oh, I didn't. I didn't pick the the most fun player and it's Manny Machado. But in a particular way, which is that them having up to start the year has allowed us to watch. Manny Machado play third. Yes. He is fun as a third baseman is not fun as a shortstop. He's not or at least difference. Right. He's not as fun are was talking about this this week. Like, it is just it's just a joy. He's just a frigging joy to watch at third, and it is so it is so easy and fluid, and there is no, you know, I saw them watch Manny Machado played their base. And then I've also watched rang Healy played third base. And those are like they're not playing the same position. It is different. It is just a different thing. You can see the movements chopped up into little bitty pieces, and they all feel sort of Janke and stitch together and bad. One rainy Lee plays service. Sorry, Ryan, he'll for your lovely. But let your number their base. And then you watch Machado in your life. Okay. Now, I see this is what like this is what a seven or eight at third is. And it's just the best. So it's Manny is weird. How the good third base defenses. The best good defense to watch. Even though it's not him most important position. It's you don't you don't run around all that much. It's but yet it is the most fun position. It's those throws all the throws charging the and the to the let the reaction's going there. I mean when you see a a lot of good baseball plays. If you're a center field or or even a middle infielder. The the play is the range. And you know, it's like, okay. He got there. Like what I saw is a guy get there. But you don't really see the process of him getting there like you can't you know, what I mean? Like, your eyes are can't be like another guy didn't get there. Right. You don't have overlapping other players who were coming up short. And like there. They just ran fast. Like, I don't it's like hard to see third base plays are all right there for you to see like, they're very visceral. They're very like you can feel them because you tried and failed to make them. Whereas we all we all caught a ball at the edge of our range at some when we've all done something in our life. That was at the edge of our range. I don't all right. I also I also like the. Yeah. Anyway, the Padres great. I again, they were they were number three for me. And so now, I'm unfortunately, I am going to have to pick my number two, which I would rather have talked about the Padres. I don't trust my rankings. He's very these are these rankings are arbitrary my will pick the brewers now. I love I love I think Christian yelich is the most fun hitter to watch in baseball right now. And it's partly because he's been on unholy terror for the last ninety games or whatever he's played in some new that problem found that probably won't last but to see the hottest hitter in baseball or one of them at his absolute hottest is is very fun. So that's that's that in that in Josh ater, just like the the existence of Josh hater looming in every game is actually the main reason I forgot what I wanted to say the way that Ben I'm gonna nobody steal this for me. I've already stolen it from Ben Ben I stole. I'm stealing something from something that you said on an episode maybe a month ago. I think it was the brewers preview episode where you referred to. Maybe it was a different episode. If you referred to somebody as that team's hater or maybe referred to hate her as being the hater where it's it's. The guy that the whole the whole pen strategy is built around and the whole other teams late inning strategy is built around like you, you know, he's there and you're like figuring out how to use your lineup and how to play to that pitcher and Siva enter Miller. We've just switched to hater. Now rate is like the Andrew Miller except for I feel like I wanna steal this idea. Because I think that you can be the hater in a lineup without being used like haters, you maybe euro, maybe you're a lockdown lefty specialist. Maybe you're a one inning. Righty? Maybe you're something else. Maybe you're the closer. But every team has somebody in the in the bullpen that you sort of think all the other pieces are built around and and haters is just the the most outlandish of them at the moment and probably even more outlandish than Miller. Was it seems to me it feels like he goes longer more regularly, and he's better than Miller was incredibly enough. And so just watching any brewers game. That's. Remotely close. You just thinking about thinking about hater. Yeah. Glen, I think it's like their rotation is very not fun. But even this not fun thing facilitates, this other fun thing. I I liked the rotation trip is fun, which are Peralta how his parole Peralta, totally funds has been less. It's just been less. Sure. Let's put it that way. It has it has bummer potential. Like you have the from Jesse certified. I agree. I like there there. I see the thing about like everybody talks about how it's bad for baseball that you have the opener now because you don't go to the game knowing who the, you know, you don't know who the starter is right. It's not in the newspaper. You can't go see the starter. Because now it's the opener or it's the bullpen game or whatever. And I feel like I basically agree with that. But I do kinda like getting to the bullpen early. I feel like a lot of the more fun stuff happens when the bullpens in the game and so not early like the first or second inning. But early like the fifth or sixth is good with me. And the brewers are like the the third time through the order team. Like, they get these guys out, and I kinda liked that they have all these guys who just go in there and just like pump everything they've got for foreign two-thirds innings, and they leave with a three to one lead. And then the bullpen comes in. And I sort of feel like that kind of baseball suits me right now, it feels like. Because it feels like playoff baseball. Yeah. Sometimes a little too much maybe, but I like that kind of baseball in October because it's only a month. And because all the games mean so much that you put up with the delays and weights but during the regular season, it can be a bit much. But I think the rotation is better this year and more watchable this year than it was last year. So that helps also Albers all I know what you probably you call them. Here's the term you came up with for hater. And this is what I was going to steal. I was going to do remember this term Ben is that the Pucci come. Stole the Pucci come from Jeff. So okay. So this is like their kids gonna steal it bullpen poochies. Which is the it's the player that you're that is with that. You're always saying, where's he like thinking wears he wears he, right? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Ten poochies. There you go. That's a great term whoever whoever came up with that. So I think I'm gonna take the New York Mets with my next pick. I'm curious to see where they ranked on your lists. But with the Mets you've got two guys who I give you a shot to see maybe the most impressive starting pitching performance in baseball. At least two guys you've got to Graham who's just on an incredible run right now. And he's kind of a must watch every time you've got Syndergaard who in some ways is even more fun to watch than to Graham. And then the rest of the rotation is fun to except for Jason parks, which almost like saps the fun. Just like it's hard to even have a team. That's fun. With Jason Vargas on it can't believe Jason. Berg is still on this team. But is so you've got that. And then I feel like the lineup is pretty fun too. I think Robinson canot remains one of my favorite hitters to watch. Just aesthetically speaking you've got Pete Alonso. Now who is just like this beef slugger and his a lot of fun so far, and then you have other interesting hitters in that lineup to like Nimmo. And and Conforto even the bench is I think better than most teams benches, and so you have guys like Jeff McNeil and Braxton on the bench, and lagaras depends who starting that day. But that's kinda interesting. And then of course, you have at windy as as your your bullpen Pucci. I guess who is also relief pretty fun. So I think that the that coupled with just like, you know, the whole Mets thing which has been very unfunded for years now. But if they were good. Again, I think it might be even more fun. Just because of all the baggage that has accumulated with this franchise, and they're in the analyst, I think every at least team except the Marlins get to boost just because that division is a lot of fun and the Mets are off to a good start in it. They're also one of those teams that has like a fifty fifty shot right now to make the playoffs according to the fan crafts, odds and hippie fifty is fun. I think so Newark Mets for me. I had them eleventh. And I they have a lot of hitters that. I think are good. But that I don't miss pretty much all their hitters. I think are good. But I don't think our that fun. I don't know. Why I I just don't I find find their eleventh them seventh driven mostly by the pitching. But also, I think yeah, you're right. It would be good for people to just really around baseball Alonzo's fun at himself. I might have had them higher. If I done this before Zack Wheeler started today. I was all in on Zack Wheeler as like as like the real deal is like the the next great pitcher. You know, the second half was totally real last year. And I thought this team was gonna have like, you know, three guys win sixty five games. And then I don't know. He just hasn't hasn't hasn't been there quite really any walked seven today. So did he really walk seven today? Yeah. I was. So now, I'm kind of. Start by sector. This is a I mean really this is like really arbitrary process at one point today. I spent like twelve minutes trying to decide if I thought that Rimal tapioca fund and tapioca fund, and I just couldn't aside, and then didn't know what the Rockies so they ended up thirteenth because of that. Really weird. This could definitely change on a day-to-day basis. We redrafted in a week probably different Sam I have them twelfth. Oh, no. I was I mentioned to a friend that we were doing this today. And I so far. My prediction is right. I was like I think that salmon I might have very similar rankings, and the Ben's might be a little bit different in lake appreciable and interesting ways like it's not a bad thing at all. So far, the funny thing is thing. Yeah. The funny thing is that we haven't so far. We haven't even named Ben second team and he's gonna hold until like like his second to last pick. Because it's going to be the Royal. Souring on the road. We'll see where they go. All right Meguro up. I am taking the nationals known staying the natural yet. Right. Goes to them. Yeah. I was thinking today about pitchers who are in joy, you know, who are those who are the the ones where I don't miss a start in where I genuinely just enjoy pretty much every pitch. They throw anything. Sure, there is very high on that list. So he is he is great fun. And I will say that he is the most fun, but I don't feel confident in my own assessment of the funding of this team because it's really hard to pick between him. And then, you know, Anthony Rendon who's just like an underrated fund player in all the like in many ways that he's underrated. It's very strange to look at this team. And thank you know, that outfields probably fine without Bryce Harper. That's weird to be able to say, but like you kinda feel a little bit confident doing it because they have Soto in their pro bliss, you know, Edens. Alright. And so I just I just like him a lot. I think that they are going to be very good do worry about the bullpens. So, but you know, having things be dicey. Layton games, and then workout okay can be fun, especially if it's not a team that you're like super committed to as a fan. This is the whole reason that we like Fernando Rodney so taking nationals, and and as we've said to any any team in that division while almost any team in that division is gonna be fun because we're just gonna push each other all year, and I'm sure that the playoff odds will move around quite a bit for them. So I'm taking nationals. I feel bad saying I had them twenty one really well and not for any real reason. Just I don't know. I mean looking thinking about it. Now, I could very easily talk myself into having them it like number four Juan Soto right? Yeah. I don't know. I feel like I have fatigue on some of these guys. There's a lot of guys on that team who've been around a long time. It's interesting concept, though, that you introduced that if your not a routing fan that in fact, the the bad bullpens are the the fun ones. Maybe or at least the the bullpens where you feel feels a little if feels dicey right? Like, Sean Doolittle is legitimately good pitcher. And I suspect that he will have moments of being quite good this year. But they also have Rosenthal of bear claw. They have Tony sip. Who was just kind of weird in a way that I appreciate. So, you know, haven't even mentioned Strasbourg mum their starters. So. Yeah, I just I just like him. I want them. I want them to get through. I want them to advance in the playoffs because. They also are one of those teams were is a fan of the Mariners have sympathy for the persistent and disappointing playoff narrative. It's just not fun as a fan. It gets thrown back at you all the time. It's not your fault. You didn't do it. Didn't pitch any of those innings, you know, but you have to contend with it anyhow. So I I hope for their their fan base that they can move on from that this year end. I think the will be quick agree. I almost took the nets with my last pick. And I do think that that narrative add something in the fact that they lost Harper and might be better without emerge. Just as good without him might not miss him. I think that sort of fun and just seeing whether they can actually win that first playoff series. Finally that is something. I'm sure nationals fence or sick of it. But for a neutral, it is something else to watch. And I think robe laces fund. I think he's maybe you're leading contender for rookie of the year or close to it. And he is kind of unpolished in some ways like watched him. He was like misplacing playing balls when. Watching him play the Mets. And yet he is really good and talented, and I think so does a lot of fun just because he so precocious and advanced beyond his years, and I don't actually I'm not sure whether Ren donuts fund. I I mean, I I think he's great. And I take every opportunity to point out that he's great. But I wonder whether his lack of reputational greatness, at least, you know, given his abilities and performance has something to do with the lack of fun because he's he's one of those guys who's just good at everything, and you know, like really good at everything, but not necessarily the best that things. So that her two little, and I've never found sherzer to be quite as fun like commensurate with his greatness, which I think he's the best pitcher in baseball. But I don't think of him as like on the really shortlist of most fun pitchers in baseball. But maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. I could be underrating his his fund nece we talked. Yeah. We've talked. I think. We talked to many hundreds of episodes ago. How max Scherzer Mexico's or is this guy who has like three of the five best starts of the last ten years. And yet when you want you're not ever really sure how he's it doesn't it doesn't smash you over the head with it. Right. Yeah. That's how I feel. So I'm not picking them necessarily just for. I don't know that guy who were fund. But that's why I didn't take them earlier. Just a there wasn't the standout individual guy for me. But I think the sum of the parts and just the position of the team again an east bonus. And the added storyline of the nets trying to get there for me. They're pretty fun. I'm gonna pick the twins. Oh, right. Email Email swayed me I've been thinking a lot about the twins. Somebody else followed up with a couple of cases for individual twins. And I decided that I really liked the twins. I think they are a very fun team. And I will just highlight. As as one as one very obvious one. Not the most obvious one one very obvious one is I don't think that there's any player that I wanna watch be awesome more than Byron Buxton. I think that not only my severely rooting for him to be awesome. But if he is awesome. I think that he is the most fun kind of awesome. That there is he's incredibly fast and incredibly strong. And he's the best center fielder in the world. And those are fun things. He steals basis at will without getting caught. That's also fun. And this is obviously it's were a weekend of the season. This is an absurd thing to point out, but he has the third highest exit velocity in baseball this year in the third highest average launch angle in baseball this year. And you could just imagine something click in there, and you know, I mean, you fifty one home runs in seventy two steel our with gold glove. I like it. So those are the things I like about the twins. But. Swirl nine world team nine. Eighteen. Yeah. Yeah. They are still the twins. Yeah. I think they're they're fun. We talked about it recently. So we don't have to rehash the whole twins conversation. But us the o- obviously short. He's the most fun thing in baseball right now. So that gets them up there. All right. I will take the raise with my next pick. I think and kind of conflicted about it because you know, I don't wanna like celebrate bare Rackham spending, and yet succeeding, but intellectually there are things about it. That are interesting, and they're obviously in division where the going up against the Yankees and the Red Sox. And so they do kinda get the underdog narrative behind them. I think a little bit and they're good. They've got a lot of good prospects. They've got a lot of good players. They just do the most interesting things on a consistent basis in terms of in game technical decisions. I mean just today they brought in Chaz Roe to face. Evan. Longoria. And then they moved Adam cleric to first base. So that he could go to the mound to face sprinted belt. I mean, you know, they do the waxahachie swap. They do the opener the pioneer reopener. There's no telling what will pioneer next. They have. There are directors now a coach on their bench and in a position that no one has ever really occupied before. So just over the last decade of baseball. They've kind of been the greatest source of innovation. I think and in pioneering tactics that other teams have adopted. And so there's always the question of what will the raise do next. What will the thing they do, you know, it was shifting obviously. And there's just a whole lot. And they seem to also may be have that ability to like take Tyler glass. No and make him really good all of a sudden and. I don't know who the most fun player on this team is maybe maybe it's cure Meyer. If he is healthy. Maybe it's Blake Snell. Just because he's really good. But I think just the team itself is kind of fun. Even though it sorta stinks when they don't spend money on players. I love Yandi as and I think that he's gonna internet blow up. Uh-huh. Yep. That's possible. The other thing that's about this is that while we all like it when our team has continuity in like the young star signs an eleven year contract in you get to see him go through his whole career with you in all that for another team. It's fun to see turn. It's fun to see new players in new circumstances. Do a new things, and it was the rays churn kinda works for this exercise. I had them eight. I had them twelve. All right. I n taking the Yankees, very strange. I know that they're like weirdly super her right now. But who's our most fun player? You know, Aaron judge is very fun. I will always have a very large suspect for James Paxton 'cause he's just a joy in delight both as a human person at as a pitcher. So it's a tie between those two I think for me in terms of their most fun guy. But I love that bullpen a love. How many different looks that bullpen offers in terms of guys who are good in different ways. Even though they are all as we covered on our preview episode with Lindsay just giants thorough giant the team of of all the different kinds of big boys as it were. And you know, I think that we sometimes do not appreciate teams that are just like very very good in deep at rich all at the same time like. We tend to be annoyed by those things because it's like everybody that those guys have all the luck. But I don't think that we should think about it that way because an ice thing about teams that have a lot of really good players in the know suspend money as that they spend money on good players on. That's the thing that we should support. I think just philosophically it's nice. But it's also cool when they're able to develop young guys out of nowhere. I have all of these young arms in their farm system that for some reason throw hundred miles an hour. Now the wildest thing. So I just I like the Yankees as a Mariners fan sort of that feels weird say, but I like him, and I think that they will be good even though they are pretty injured sometimes end. Yeah. That's my pick. I think the Yankees were more fun a couple years ago when some of these guys started coming up in just kinda burst onto the scene and it felt like they were still the Yankees. But like for a while at least you could almost root for them if you weren't Yankees fan. And now, it kind of feels like they're they're back to a team that most people hate, but I agree with you. I think they are pretty fun. Got a lot of fun players. I had them six. So I also think they're very fun. They would have been my next pick. I like when you mentioned judge I like big guys who are faster than their size and judges the fun because he can move. I mentioned I forgot to mention that. That's one reason that I liked Cody Bellinger in the dodgers is he's another guy who's fast, right? He's fast. It's surprising. As judge this is one of my favorite two names in relationship to each other from last year's stat Casteran leaderboard Aaron judge faster than gene Sikora. Yeah. That's wild. Yeah. I mean, that's. Aids. It's not like they're like it's not like he's number thirty two on this list. But still he's he's barely behind bays. One foot purse. He's one tenth of a foot per second behind Mukhi vets. This is part of why I delight in watching. This is not a player on either. The dodgers were the he's this is part of why I really enjoy Joey Gallo because it's like he shouldn't be able to move like that. That's that's dumb. But again, it's great at amount of you know, is really fun. Yeah. Per pitch basis. He's he's up there in terms of bullpen guys. So Cody Bellinger was faster than Jose Peraza annual known Cada fast. Ause the LB's. It's pretty fast. That's what I'm saying. Right. Then Rimal top. You might team is the cardinals. It was more fun before they sent on Alec radius. Alex raises a player I really like watching right now, although not like literally right now because right now he's struggling a little bit. But Alex, raise is. If you were listing players that you switch over because they've come into a game Alex races. Like in my top four right now or was start the season. But also, my sleeper is I really like watching piler O'neil Jairo Neil to me is like kind of a just a like a aesthetic freak show. He was he was ninety fifth. Percentile sprint speed last year. He was ninety fifth percentile exit velocity last year, and he was last dead last in contact rate. And that's just a fun ball player. He also is kinda jittery and sorta just like is a bundle of nerves out there. He reminds me a little bit of a guy Ben in the Pacific sociation. Who remember I liked everybody else hated remember talking about? No, Johnny juke. Oh, oh, yeah. He doesn't remind me of Johnny Drako in the way he plays. But just in like the sort of energy that he exudes like captivated by it. He also wears us. High striped socks and also has a striped tattoo covering his entire left arm in. So if you squint at sort of looks like he's tattooed his uniform on his arm for some reason. I don't know why I like that. I don't know why I think that's fun. I will probably hate Tyler oneal by mid may. But right now, I really like him. I like watching him. He's fun. Yeah. I saw I've seen. It was Tyler nail saw video of him hitting a home run like just off t. Right. Like, wow, what's like to strong like that experience that my whole life. And then he ran and caught the ball in the air. And then he went back, and he swung and missed at the. Yeah, sounds right. All right. I think we've reached a point now where this isn't coming as easy to me anymore. So maybe we've gone down to tier in Fundus. But I think I'll take the Red Sox here. They are the best team. I think still on the board, but they have Mukhi and mckie's kind of an outlier in terms of Fundus on this team. I don't find that many other Red Sox that fund which is maybe why they're still available here. It's Mckee himself is so fun that that kind of makes me want to take them here. And I think JD Martinez is fun. Just as a, you know, craftsman a technician of hitting and also just one of the best hitters in baseball period. I think they're outfield as a whole is fun just defensively. Jackie Bradley, jR, is a lot of fun to watch in the field. But there's not that much more to them on in terms of just player by player. I mean if all. He is kind of fun at least he was last year. But I don't know that hope he consistently fun. Chris sale. Obviously if he's going well is very fun. I think one of the most obviously dominant pitchers there is so sir depends on how good he is. And then the whole bullpen experiments of just kind of not having one I think is sort of fun from afar, definitely not fun for Red Sox fans. But if we're going with the theory that it is fun to watch bullpen meltdowns than you have the potential to see some here while still having a team in a potentially good vision race. So oh that and obviously it's the defending World Series winner. So we've seen these guys in the playoffs and that helps a little bit so Red Sox. Yeah. They I had him ninth. And I find the roster spots twenty two I guess the four to twenty five to be more interesting than the angels four to twenty five but not like all that. Interesting. And then they have you know, Mookie equates, Mike trout and Jackie Bradley is like a lesser Angleton Simmons in the gloriously fun to watch on defense. Doesn't equate to trout though. I mean, well, no, they're both there. But lesser sorry. They're both let he's mercury like eighty five percent trout and Bradley like five percent Simmons. And but the rest of the team is is more interesting in so I had them higher. But I agree. They're not a their team. That's all that fun to watch. I end up watching a lot of Red Sox games anyway because they always play at four. Oh, five and I liked their broadcast crew. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder whether does broadcast grew are no no internet here known apparently not. But I just I watch a lot of their games for that gun. Yeah. Well, aesthetically speaking I like watching Fenway park too. So I don't know if that's part of it. But just the nooks and crannies, and that is something that's kinda visually. Interesting just what you said about mckeon traffic. I think is is interesting because Mckee is probably the second best player in baseball. And like last year he was as good as Trump. Probably. But because he doesn't have the history of being as good as trout. He's so much less. Interesting to me just because I mean, even if he were as good as trout from now on and he were as good as this season. It still wouldn't be as interesting because he's not building on quite the early career legacy that trout did. So the whole thing with trout now is is he the best player ever. And every season tells us something about whether he will be a Mookie probably doesn't have that case. I think I just have fatigue with them. I think I'm just a little I think I'm a little worn out on the Red Sox. Everyone to listening to this podcast. Relax. Wonderful is great. I'm not watching movie. Yeah. We're not tired of the dodgers though. Right. Even though they're always there. They've been there more consistently than the Red Sox have. But maybe it just is that the Red Sox have won the four World Series recently. And that makes all the difference. And I think we see them play on. Sunday, so often. So that might have something to do with it. And I'm just you know, I think that there is some value in enjoying teams that are not the, you know, reigning World Series champs because we just we just had a bunch of fun with you. You know, we had an extra month the fun. So I think I maybe just a little fatigued. Although you're right to maybe make me wonder why I don't feel quite the same way about the dodgers. Who Furlan, you know, for all intents and purposes, I showed even though they didn't win. Yeah. Well, because the dodgers haven't won. I mean with the Red Sox. You can be like, okay, go away. Now, like, did it what are you still here for how come you're still buying lottery? Tickets who just won the jackpot. I don't feel that way. I still basically enjoy the Red Sox. I love Red Sox Yankees games on Sunday night. And I wish they played them every week. And and I I also think that Mukhi while I totally agree with you that the the trout the fundamental question of whether you're watching the greatest player of all time put up the greatest career ball time is what makes trout so interesting to watch on databases. I think that Mukhi is a more interesting defender, a more interesting base runner. He does more things that surprise me. And and I like, I would rather I think I probably would actually enjoy might trout more. I mean, this is what they should do or the better. But I think I'd probably would like might. Route more if you were in a corner and his his excellent defense stood out in the way that Moody's does and bets does have more. I think that like Mike trout's personality gets sort of underrated people call him boring, and I find his particular interest kind of charming, but but bets does have significantly greater on field presence. And so that part is more fun, right? He's Scott got a little dance moves in anything scraped up short to was a me. Yep. Yep. I am taking the Rockies. Wow. Are we already there? We're already to your number. Would you haven't twelve? I had him twelve. Wow. We got either. Made a call. I skipped eleven I just decided I just decided to do it. I skipped my number eleven team, which was the athletes nine went straight to the Rockies. There is something and we will talk about Nolan or not I really enjoy watching Marquez pitch. And like it very much. I'm very curious to see what happens withdrawn gray this year. A Franco free is fine. He's fun to watch. But like he's he's very pitcher. But he's fine. I just I like very much the idea of Rockies team who in some respects appears to be built around pitching strength kazoo. That's dumb shouldn't be true. But it is which is so cool, and then they decided to keep Nolan Aaron auto around, and he is great fun. I continue to be fascinated by Trevor story and exactly what he is going to settle into as a big leaguer. Because I think we still have a sort of pending question there. I will never understand Chris I at his framing numbers it is going to be like my final case as. Worn down detective that I will never solve. We'll be the file at sits industry or that. I pass onto a younger subordinate to figure out. I'll never get. It doesn't make any sense. But I remain fascinated by and I am so happy in some ways. Even though he has not been good. That in dozen remains on the team because for about five seasons. Now about a mental block about were end. Desmond plays baseball. It makes it much easier to remember if he stays on the Rockies bad. But is there as a rocky now in center field? That's the thing. I have managed to warm into my brain. And I think is great fun. Just because like skinny little dudes like that should not work as baseball players, but do sometimes and when they do it is delightful, and I guess we're consistent with my powdery spec. I just really enjoy watching very good third baseman be very good baseman in autos. You know, he's right there as probably the best of the bunch. So I am picking the Rockies. And also they have the the. The advantage of Coors. Because I like weird stuff. In course, lends itself to word stuff on many occasions, both for the Rockies themselves and for the people they're playing so I picking the Rockies. I've always hated Coors. I've I have not considered Coors baseball to be fun at all. I hated whores games all of them everyone until until now now that they have good pitching. Yeah. I like it too extra fun. Now. This is it took twenty five years. But they finally got a pitching staff that can make me appreciate that Coors is a weird outlier stadium and not a farce such a just an entirely homegrown rotation too. I mean, it's so impressive. It's one of the more impressive player development feats any team has managed to meet it took them twenty five years. But still that it happened at all I think is something to marvel at and some of the individual pitchers are fun to watch too. Yeah. My pig. I can't believe honestly, I cannot believe this team made it this far. But my my next pick is the Braves. Who obviously have Ronald kunia who is might trout at twenty like like, she's he's that guy right now. He's not he's not. I shouldn't have said it. I'm gonna get sucked down. But he's you know, he is really something special. And and in a way that I mean once oh two is also something special, but a Kuna. I think is more fun to watch or at least more obvious to watch. But I also what I really like about the Braves is that they are a team that puts strikes in play. That is a team that as hitters. They hunt strikes. And it's a little bit of a different. It's not. I mean, it's not every guy, but it's a little bit of a different team team wide philosophy than we're used to. And it just feels to me like when I watch a Braves game it clicks along it said, there's things happen it Hanna Hanna the two year old would light brace games. You know what? I mean. I really like FREDDY Freeman I've thought that I wanna spend like three weeks on Freddie, Freeman inches watch every at bat, and then write about him because he's he's also like he's I feel like FREDDY Freeman is in a lot of ways the inverse of Joey Votto, but every bit as in control of his game as Joey Votto, and I really like watching his at bats, they feel very purposeful in a very different way. So I like watching the Braves bad. I I'm not that into Braves pitching to be honest as a as a fun thing. But the the fifteenth pick I can't believe Ronald kunia made it to the fifteenth. Yeah. I don't think the brazier Superindent brisk pitching either. In fairness, Josh Zazi Tyler flowers. Donaldson monographs, I'm going to forget that the whole frigging year pitching staff is a total in to me. I don't know what to make of them. But yeah. It's fun. Right. It's fun in that. They're all young, and they're all fairly recent arrivals for the most part. And so they could be something. So there's promise at least. All right. So we are halfway through the teams in baseball. And we are more than an hour into this episode. So we're gonna speed up. We're just gonna fast forward through these picks and justify them a little less than than we have been so little or not at all. All right. So my next pick. I think I will take. Cleveland kessel take Cleveland I had them seventeenth. So about around here. Teens Lindores the most fun player. So. Two weeks ago? They would have been higher when I mean, they have I know stats aren't aren't real into. Maybe they are real, but we're overreacting early-season stuff. But Cleveland's fund stats have definitely taken a hit patients really good really about him. So that's why can't believe cert-. So I'm taking the as taking as I like Matt Chapman east quite fun hour throws the ball. Oh my goodness. So much fun and some members of their rotation who are hurt will be fun months. They're not hurt and China's fund on when he's not given up walk off obstacles L to. And sometimes even when he has some litter there might pick them sixteen. So they they were also just the right spot for me. But I don't like turning on a game in not being sure whether Edwin Jackson is on the roster not just something about the as that's it's like blooming threat of Edwin. Jack. Jason you could feel that way about every baseball. I need to need is on him at all times. Alright. So my next pick is the reds. Yeah. All right cash. I guess I'll pick the cubs. Someone has to take the cubs. Right. I had them. They were my second next that. Third off the field. Probably the least fund tee off on at all no terribly unfunded. But on the field. Well, not all that fun. But. More fun than the other remaining teams. I guess I really do like watching Rizzo play and resolve this. I'm like five years late on not late because I've been repeating it for five years, but everybody's board of this now but Rizzo fielding a sacrifice bunt is to me. Still a top five thing in baseball right now. Like when he comes in and he's like standing in the left handed batters box. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so Bris still sort of residually fund and Kris Bryant fund hobby by as fun. So there's some guys. All right. I'm taking I'm taking the Blue Jays. Rattle be up at some point. But he's not ember will be up at some point. He's also, but doesn't make the Blue Jays even less fun though that they're not a. Yeah. But like, what are we talking about at this point? We're in we're in that range, and I have now acquired currency team end Dave's team an Kirsten's team. And I guess I've only lost out on on August. And Jeff's team. So it's not a complete set but fan graphs that's gonna be so fun. It'll make up for the you know, three weeks or what I I didn't know. This was a keeper league. I don't know. I just season league. They'll be up the season this season. They'll be up this this year soon as Vlad's better. I would imagine I have my next team is the Rangers whose lineup I think is generally fairly fun and extremely young. I think they had this. I think they had the youngest maybe the second youngest lineup last year. And a lot of guys weren't that. Good. But they were young. And I think they still might be. I really like no mamas ARA their pitching staff is unfunny as it gets their starting pitching staff. I mean, those guys are neither good nor novel. But, you know, take what you get the lineup. Gallows really fun. Maybe better now, we'll see. So I think I like the value. I'm getting here. I'm taking the White Sox with my next pick. And I think the White Sox are fairly fun team. You know, they're like the Padres. But rest promising they were like. Padres like they had the prospects and the prospect scout there, and then they didn't all get good all at once. But they still might. And so like when you on Moncada's off to a really nice start. That's interesting or like Tim Anderson's kind of fund. And it's interesting, I guess to see like will g Lido any good will curls road on any good Renova Lopez. All this all these guys who were supposed to be good. Who better be good? If the White Sox are gonna be good. You get to find out if they'll be good. And of course, Eloy Jimenez is there too. So that's kinda also no strikes though. That's strike on throwing team. Yeah. Can we actually Rangers really quick? Sorry. Norm thing. Joey Gallo is fourth in baseball right now in terms of walk. Great. Yeah. And his walk rate and his strikeout rate or identical twenty six point three we needed to remark on that for a moment. 'cause like that's frigging crazy for Joey gal. So that's a fun. Joey gal. Fact from media's overlay remember a fan Gress post last here from Jeff lady, the astonishing development Gallo, and he ceased to stunk it will likely not sustain. But for today. That is our Joey Gallo fact, we all remember. Four articles that day. Stand out. I remember that one to recite it he's he's usually so precious to things that and someone doesn't continue Recode after one of his post. I remember it also just like Gallo pit tension to go. Yeah. One time I tried to find a post of Jeff predicting something that turned out embarrassingly wrong. And I ended up in like two thousand nine Mariners posts something and like it's hard. He's he's got a couple of tease him about from time to time. Mike trout has walked only to slate lender percentage. Pointless often hasn't been percents strikeout rate. God-like Trump's great Mason, you guys. My trout's really baseball most watchable team in baseball really act. Although, you know, things are weird. When Tim Anderson has hired of your plus that, Mike. Fun beck's. All right. You're up. I'm up on crap. I'm taking weight bench with the White Sox. Okay. I'm I'm taking notes as we go. I guess I'm gonna take. I don't feel great about this. This feels like a very home or pick. But I'm gonna do it. Anyway, I guess I'm gonna take the Mariners. Mariners are not fun. Despite all the home runs. This is like very early season Marashi on. But I think grucci is legitimately fun to watch play baseball. So that's good. And Marco Gonzalez fine. I watched him pitch live on Tuesday that one. Well, they tried to make him go a complete game that went almost less. Well, but it's fine now. And let's see what else do they have. That's good. And I think the young prospects are going to be really quite fun to watch. And I'm excited to hear more about Julio Rodriguez. Who's no states? We can actually watch him on 'em LB TV. That's to say, I'm done. I'm taking the Orioles mostly just to make a statement about the other teams left. Sure. Yeah. You know, the thing about the Orioles is that there is something fun about seeing team shoot for a hundred and thirty losses. And then there is something interesting about watching that team go foreign to or whatever to start the season. And so as long as they are around five hundred they'll be interesting, but they've kinda shot themselves in the foot hundred thirty loss wise, and so this this is a very short expiration date on my interest in the Orioles. But I don't know. No, no, no, actually, no. All right. Well, I think I'll take the Diamondbacks. Don't feel great about it. But I feel better than I would be souther teams. I've had them twenty to get cranky. You get gosh. I'm in Tel Martinez. Kind of fun. Maybe Meryl Kelly of ploy. David Peralta, just as like an Indy league guy. Who's been good old? That's all I know. But he's gotten better recently. So that's kinda fun that slim Pickens, but I just yeah. Time fax. No. Is it really me again? Wait say what was your most recent one the Orioles? Oh, that's right. I have it right here. More thirtieth. Ramp. I guess I'm taking the pirates. Yeah. They were actually a head of the Orioles on my list, but taking the priorites. Sucking invites. But I'm taking parents. You know, I when I was doing this. I forgot about starting Martine who I've always been a huge huge fan of watching like physically. I he is my favorite physical physical player physical physical baseballer like just like him. His he strong fast. I like him always have all pick the the royals along. They know actually though, but modesty I Monty is a genuinely like potentially incredible player right now. And and it's happening like what we're watching it happen. And at the moment at the moment, we got a half the module going. What doesn't what mayor fell of a twenty eight game hitting streak? Oh, does that isn't that right across seasons? Right. But yes, are you present? It does. Does it not count? I think not counting it. I've been to are we okay good president. So it's still accurate, isn't it? Yeah. For twenty twenty games such a thing. Would it be tarnished for you? If he if the guy who matches or surpasses DiMaggio. Does it across seasons? Is that now I think it's no not at all. I think it's a little less. Impressive to it. In a way. It's I don't know. You're just a different guy in those two seasons in I think maybe the pressure of it building up within a single season might be. But I don't know. I guess the pressure doesn't start building until later in it anyway. So maybe it doesn't matter. Yeah. And why wouldn't it be more pressure because you've had you've had five months sitting on the pressure? Yeah. Will I mean, if you were like fifty games or something season, the than you the rest of the that would be more? Impressive for sure. Yeah. I thought you were going to ask if it would be Hornish by being Widmaier failed. And that's a fair a reasonable question. Would when we said when I said a couple weeks ago that a fifty seven game hitting streak is the most fun that baseball could offer right now. I wonder if that will only applies if it were maybe one of two dozen players who I think, you know, are you know, like superstars in. I mean, I hate to say this, but but kind of merit it. Yes. I do. I hate that. I said it feel bad. Yeah. Well, I I was kind of the royals guy before the season started. They didn't run in spring training. And they've kind of run like they're tied for the third most steals in baseball right now with eight I don't know if they do it if they start running than they're fun. But if they don't then they're extremely unfunded. But there's the hope at least that's better than what we have left here. So gosh, we have giants Marlins and Tigers left on board high. Where do we go with? Oh my goodness. I think I'll take the Marlins just because I don't know who's on the Marlins. And so when I watched them, it's kind of fun to find out on the so, that's my rationale. It's like a little surprise tune in. And it's like, oh, I've never heard of that guy. A look him up. I don't know why I've I've heard of fewer Marlins than I have obviously like, you know, all the giants because they're still hanging around from the good giants teams. But like even the Tigers feel a little less anonymous to be than the Marlins do and the Marlins are also in the NFL east end. So they have some potential to be the terrible team of two thousand nineteen like if if the Orioles are off to to get a start to challenge any records or your best option, and they're in such a division that they'll just be beaten up all year long. So there's potential for them to be the team that tests the lower bound this year. Sam I feel really mean I'm gonna take the Tigers. I would have taken the I would have taken the giants. Oh, but didn't you you. Use struggled so mightily, find something interesting to say, did you write Meg knows this? I sorry. I'm revealing all sorts of things I'm being specially mean terrible. I'm sorry. Tell the story. Yeah. I had to write something in basically, I had to write a fun fact about every team for the opening day package. And I the first, you know, the first twenty nine the first twenty teams took, you know, whatever expert of time in the next nine took also expert of time where x is the same across because it got harder and the giants also took acts. I was watching me for like literal hours literal hours, trying to find something that I thought was fun. Not not fun about the team. But a fun fact about the team it was a very difficult time in so. So it's true. They are not the most fun fact team. But I, you know, why they're twenty ninth over the Tigers at thirtieth for me is this this is not a fair. This is not a reason anybody should care about. But they play on the west coast, which means that are more likely to be the only game going, and I'm yanked full for those games. Yeah. I was gonna pick the Tigers because we'll see here. All payback a little of my meanness in in kindness, which is to say that I think one of my favorite things I've read on baseball internet in Las couple years when you wrote about Josh Arison pickles. Those you write about Josh Harrison, I'm remembering all the essential facts of that story correctly Enda, Josh Harrison's on the Tigers now, so and he's gonna get a lot of played appearances, you know, 'cause they're really bad and he's trying. So that's a. Reason that I'm excited, and I guess may continues to be fascinating Gordon Beckham has a major league job. So that's a thing to look at. And I guess I like designated hitters position. And that's basically all the Tigers roster is is a bunch of designator hitters plan out of position by playing one at all. So I guess that's why I'm doing it. And I don't know I'm from Seattle in that Boyd's from the greater Seattle area. So there you go those are murders. Right. I'm I'm taking the giants. And I would just like to say that I've thought about it in the last four minutes, and I have decided that I completely one hundred percent reject the concept that only some players merit record of such stature as the hit record. And I would be extremely welcoming of any player including whitmire field. Who is an extremely good ballplayer and worthy of everything. He accomplishes. All right. What we got a lot of enjoyment out of Orlando Cabrera's assault on on the unbased streak. So in a way, it's more fun. If someone. -pletely improbable. Does it you know, if I mean, I'm to the point where I'm watching the Tommy fame record. I mean, it is watch it watch status. I don't know if he did it today. So I guess I didn't watch. That's my team the race for that thing. I like fam- family fan got on base. You know, fans got six forty s should I l l c who picked what teams and maybe we can put this up to vote. See what people think who got the most fun team selection of teams I've recorded Oliver selections. Yeah. To all have ten based on my sheet. So I think we we did it, right? Yes. So let's let's pull the listeners who got the most fun assortment of teams. All right. Okay. That was fun. This is a fun episode. It was fun. Yeah. Every time. I do a all thirty teams article. I'm just reminded anew. How many teams there are teams thirty teams? Yeah. Right. Did it that was fun? Thanks, guys. Thanks make thanks for coming. My pleasure. All right. Okay. Ben extra paulhamus together. To did. I send out the podcast laying. That's true. Cast going while I was. Yeah. That's right. You can't go on it episode three hundred when I said that was enough. Here. You are almost fourteen hundred. Okay. Talk to you both later this week. See? Okay. So that will do it for today. 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3168: To Kill a Mocking Bird w/ Luisa Dez and Jake Flores

Keith and the Girl Comedy Talk Show

1:09:12 hr | 1 year ago

3168: To Kill a Mocking Bird w/ Luisa Dez and Jake Flores

"I I do follow us on social media you just go under Keith and the girl for everything if I follow us on social media is that Meta well I will learn what Meta means so fucking health me welcome and Keith and the girl I'm Keith Malley him the you know you can follow us on social media jokes more daddy males they're in talk about it and the minute all right we have two guests for you today first off producer of the weekly show too many cooks uh-huh and you actually asked her if it's awkward to stay with the person who she found out that was cheating on her and then lighter face about she told the story about US found out my boyfriend was cheating the whole time now I guess that means the entire relationship at my sister's advice will sign up for kick boxing class comes from misery she was all set right she talks about kice yearly stand up show having Vinny from Jersey shore as an emcee and receiving light bulbs as a gift from Keith having a Columbus Day many cities and states are changing it to indigenous day those states that are changing it are they also changing the books to stop reading ladies Cutoff Lightbulb for her birthday fancy lightbulb she discusses working on Fox News Red Eye working with staunch conservatives performing standup that we had to mention that's not usually that's not a usual my opening line line of interrogation that's what I tried to interrupt with this is not usual but he admits it doesn't no it doesn't then he was hauled off to fucking emotional jail and he'd still didn't fuck admit it right well see this post for Morris saying finding period blood when she was on some kind of trip or vacation he said not wasn't Perry blood. It was a ketchup apparently the bulla ketchup in bed and she goes theory. Well that's a bummer. Well we bummer thanks for starting the show that's how we got good news you know we'll do four shows this week celebrate Canadian thanksgiving go to my opening line dot com or just you know find my opening line where you're listening to this and make sure you get some of that a speaking of upsetting family ready yes Keith's girlfriend an parentheses Anna comic was performed worldwide for over a decade including multiple military towards discusses early stand up in listen they're like just shut the fuck up and have a day off but we'll also have a new episode of my opening line this one with Kyle Cossio here's the description oh which by the way now has become a place where people come from out of the country to say hello to me this and hangouts Lucky Jackson and how he was a hero and where he landed and what he did to engine today so much easier than writing out every book no pun the kids are like what's in in New York City goes to the podcast white you mad ouch twitter and Instagram to follow winces including Rita redner and blatant sexism that has carried over from then to now guest colosio talks about a first performances as a new mom in a miserable relationship I laugh I've had since I get that yeah yeah well more at least they lease you don't go to the movies alone that'd be weird right a hard time the three kids in front of them and upsetting family with jokes so since we have four keeping the girl episodes those who are used to listening to five Monday through Friday when you're out with newly deceased parents so us when she decided to start comedy like she is in her early thirties her parents just died and she had three babies his partner killed by an uncle when a rival cartel barring Louisa was the head of the memorial exhibit at the Nine Eleven Museum where she would id the dead so a lot of personality went on with the INS and outs I listened to the first show she was on if you haven't I it's episode two thousand nine hundred thirty four a more Orissa's e Pablo s Ron Cameron he says this is going to be a great inside baseball episode why are You Mad Oh my God hi how are you Lewis said that follows she's a comedy pacemaker she knows what's going like a lot about On the podcast why is I think maybe the power the quality in comedy comes from that pretending Lino and it goes back to the idea of the class clown right when you think about some comics at least when they were little they were class clowns in school and it was this way of coping sort of softens the environment and your response to people in their response to you but you know you're kind of lying about where you are when you do that absolutely Graham at ferrol jokes Jake Flora's how you doing Jake I am quite well this morning Good Morning Oh yeah okay well let's put some catch up on the bed and said Oh I didn't know as the psychopath so she puts catch up on the bed he goes well it dried and she goes okay we'll wait in like a couple of mechanism for feeling like outsiders or like they didn't know health to relate to the people around them so they did it by joking and a lot a lot of US avoided getting deep so she stayed there for like two days really he finally breaks down and admits it but they were not even I I hate that that the only language we have for that is and then on on you wanna see what's happening there the I'm following the tweets right now joke surges jokes she rates in quotes words nothing comedy is dom but rating of perfect joke is the only thing that you kill one ice agent and you get to wear Sombrero to kills you can wear a Poncho and ice saw this right people in the room or that kind of thing maybe we're all doing that a lot like when when we don't WanNa get intimate we hide our intimacy by throwing joke out there so I feel like that just one opinion got a tweet it we can't talk only me no response from you know I think they can decide or something I talked with Luisa Diaz is Louisa de as nuts Louisa how you doing hey guys how are you good the sad cody Alan listening live on our youtube and he saw that you were uh-huh yes yes it's one of those jobs I get I think you get when you like you couldn't pass the police exam it's like a security guard sort of situation yeah well I'll tell you what the then the look that does describing perhaps didn't help you when you made a joke on twitter is his last year is why I think it's morning and I I'm pickled do wear an army book bag when you went to high school he's here I was born in America I'm just of Mexican descent but I think what's going because this is important distinction to make because if they sent ice the name let's be intense conversation again well joining us is your Co Host Ladies and Gentlemen coast of why you mad podcast you can follow the twitter and then yeah we worried about a problem no I've gotta cry live a charmed life so did they do they literally they're pounding on your door that wakes you up pretense of my words don't matter you know they get to hide behind it yeah and that allows them the freedom to make these jokes about things maybe go against their own beliefs or the beliefs somebody tries to like You know what what do you call it when you can't go out as a kid ground you would they grounded for day or you like fucking making a month to month fuck it different on twitter I mean you type delivery explain that when ice comes to your door you go wait a second I know it's just written here's the tone actually had a very Good morning did you last night a live show and other podcast pod America had a big old show little field the bottom with Lewis says yes that's accent for everything so please don't be offended Louise explains her views of Comedians in different cities Louise's father was Pablo Escobar's business and normally wouldn't answer because you know I live in a sketchy building in you know who knows legal stuff going on with the building but like candid conversation with Homeland Security specifically which is the parent company of ice and so what is your style they still haven't escaped would made you guessed that there's a they were detectives and they had to come to my apartment to talk to me and I think that they've kind of from the GATT were like this is GonNa this is they looked me up they'd know him a comedian you know so okay here's how Cinco De Maya Work Twenty eighteen love it white people are allowed to culturally appropriate on the condition that you helped to destroy ice toilets water problems for me but everyone did you did you through the first people okay don't live a normal exaggerates I love doing the Lenny Bruce Somebody reads the joke and I'm like it goes a little bit you have to be a joke you think people are reading matters and the only reason I was put on the Earth says all my favorite comics frown face sad right yeah like is it important is a non important do they I guess the maybe that's why Homeland Security I opened the door and there are four guys and they say Homeland Security and hold a bad job there in a move and do you know I'm secured by it just for the record three in the don't tell Jake but just for us to know the one you described that time you say that you were hung over then too aces grunts skies with the hotdog neck in the eighth grade you're just a bitch is ahead of time because I think that got us to where we are today but I when you say when we ask why did you get arrested and go because I grew up in a city I'm going to need more they sent homeland security to my apartment and that's the detectives so what I got was what I am imagining on their end was a very bad episode of the x files like what was it still scary because that's it's so official when the door and it was early in the morning rate in what I call the morning which is this time of day why are you interested so many times I mean I grew up in a big city in Houston you know now again Houston Kinda right a bit had fights started at me I'm not much of a fight starter myself I do fight start at you like why why do you usually get targeted yes me and my friend Joe got jumped underneath the bridge in Austin one time lake very smart of them it was because once traffic sir a constant sort of just presence and also bad luck I suppose related or I mean all their things in get your shit together I really think people need etiquette of how to knock and ring the doorbell I mean I think you know what I mean gently call out I'm here to fix the tax money man annoying history nerd kid was like this is because of did you get into fights or anything like that coming to this day is pretty bad I take him to the hospital through guy into a car which I'm quite proud of it was cool darkness is look in quote industrial right yeah Shimmer and they're very good the guy from breakfast club that was angry all the access the low tax thing oh the government stays out of my business right I don't pay taxes will they take the taxes you'd get arrested constantly it's just part of Texas cultures just a drunk environment just a living jumped a few times like just random gangs stuff or whatever will you beat Dang yes we've now illegally started late and now they're gonNA dull so the cops don't chaser I imagine you at all I'm I actually say thank you for smoking weed in the face by being right yeah so I think it is this way of using why just acted like I was threatened all my life threatening to punch people don't Hey is a person that was the leading into smoking weed out of a coke can in the street and you know police being swings overhead what's going to judge you on like why were you under a bridge or underpass but then I remembered I was growing up and I definitely spend time turns yes where there's like a sweet undertone behind it but it's like but I'm still wearing black so I mean you know I got beat up it wasn't too bad my friend Joe got hidden in the underneath the I I think I was wearing a ring and so he's gets his wicked like action movies scar underneath his eyeball gay trained fighter but I'm not afraid to get punched in the face which is the biggest white how for the biggest thing you need to get over if you are in a fight is just that I thought it was this guy who was supposed to come fix the toilet because he also bangs like that and then I'm necessary right how do you bang like homeland security fix my toilet like the cities where everybody drives whenever before the age that you have a car I grew up in Miami you walk in the most fucked up places like you walk on the size of us there's ten people you're all low twenties Douala the recognize him from the neighborhood oh no no I mean this isn't downtown Austin and they were soon do you worry hey I better watch my words I know it's about this tweet immediately or I'm GonNa sit this guy down just explain I'm a comic that's it was the reason because now during the interview you said I've been arrested a lot of times I didn't get the feeling that's what they were looking for Blah Blah Blah they do very clever they timed whereas like where you're GonNa go and then okay I got a fight like ten people or whatever and how badly hurt I not broken weeden okay maybe because you were smoking weed legally right he's like how did they find me a backpack Jiji she ways that don't have sidewalks and you get pulled over by the cops because you're in a place where there are no not supposed to be pedestrians by the way I've walked those walks I found myself on it's moving your underneath an overpass right so you can't make noise nobody's GonNa hear you and you can't get away and the people driving too fast AC- you so like I'm a comedian okay but what are you comedian you know I maybe I'm one of those people that constantly just has like one half of an argument my head all the time but heavy brawls yeah I don't mean to aid shame you lose please stop me every time it gets into fights all the time carries a large chain around New York and so you think to get the money to pay for the stuff that they're not taxing and most of its traffic so that what you said while being arrested Ah you feel awful anyway and they're just like something's going to happen I don't have too much power over whether they're gonna you know tall the off or not so I'll just have the conversation and then they left luckily I was just a weird Albany this is like in my twenty s I was like twenty five or something like that L. to get into me I turned on the microphones we started podcast guys homeland security once you start comedy but you gotTa keep repeating yourself yeah well I mean I made a point pretty quickly which was that this is not a thing that is enforced across the board if you worried about you know people provoking people on got you know who knows where it was also fast and blurry I wouldn't recognize moves on your car I'm not this guy did they spend at your place we talked for about forty five minutes or an hour or so fast yeah really how do you talk about this for an hour that doesn't sound fast they looked like undercover Mormons they looked like the characters all the TV show homeland like the professional attire neared l. beans or thing going on his favorite thing you said under bridges so but not a twenty five though that's still seems weird you had to walk there to get to the parking that's the problem to the non it was more flippant in the in this scenario than I probably should have been like worse case a Bologna Sandwich highway and I wish I could say I was somewhere Texas but I was in Queens Oh my God and I was like I'm on a highway now I don't know what happened you recognize any of these and you to run around where did you grow up okay so the price per relationship I mean Jamaica chased Rabah cops and your kid his specify how hung over I was in the story of this is that it gives you this sort of like super power of not really caring whether you live or die the real Roseanne and I mean the guy when I said that he kind of went yeah I was like what's your that easy line why don't you go mess with Roseanne Barr and Alex Jones who at the time were pretty freely spitting their token vince why are you here they'll take your police state tips like how to be a police state may not contrary maybe going person who is able to do all this stuff recklessly with little to no consequence congrats and thank you for your service the problem but who cares or do you think there's no way this stupid little comment is going to bring national security to behalf no matter remember Keith it doesn't matter so you know I told him the main guy there was four these guys were the one that was like their leader or whatever they want to they all wearing suits and sunglasses please please please the point being that they're they're like a right wing conspiracy theorists to east l. them their handles important when a tweet it no I do think that but I don't really care that much because you know I would probably be acting wildly different and number after all this question ironically no wouldn't have but eventually someone flagged it and they got taken down and that was a it was just that day that our yeah some kind of homeland probation and then my father got two swords and put it on the wall I don't did you have any weird shit like that my mom went through a series Louis Rates Homeland Security's comics to walk that's great you know honestly as we're talking I'm like we'd Amo citizen I'm okay it actually ran in my head I'm like who they're going to come after me I'm with Jake tweet that do you think hey this could cause with the things that I put online and the things that I do with my own self safety or whatever if I had kids or something but you know comedian I'm the vibe got was that they were like I tell Susic sort of started to do their thing that they were dislike we need check off and make sure this isn't a complete psychopath and it's just some dude I was like I was like I've been thinking about this all day let's let's talk about this what is a joke you know what is the nature of your best pointless homeland security it seems to be everything it is it's like Oh coincidence Meta Ironic Meta I saw post by Mara Merrick who was on recently it's decorate my house like a you know like my mom did you have that I mean me growing up like I am soared because he was designing the house to be everything he wanted to be I think everyone in my family is bad at design for just you know we don't do I have a like a what do you call it a file but I was told a little pad of that file of course always like your was it traumatic and I'm GonNa coolest thing ever this was more New York thing New York in the eighties all of a sudden decided that like Chinese stuff was pouring and people started wearing Chinese dresses you know those whatever it is you know did they ask you to delete it it eventually got taken down just by twitter I don't have to do it on have that I like we we could do behind the scenes shit but it's like I don't know what color wall I should have so he put swords on it really or have a kid that is the advice you give you say that the homeland security door solicit them not afraid to get punched very hung over okay so they had like the white button downs and like the lanyard sort of situations in like one guy had a camera around his neck they were very like mannequin keith totally assuming that Latinos are the same come on this is a different kind of weird because my mom actually put up for Colombians it's like these little weird houses southwestern phase and there's a lot of what is the green one turquoise and like silver and stuff all over the place Dominican stepfather that also got some that's what we do a picture of like must've been some Persian or Arab guy drinking tea has the painting on the wall I don't interview somebody like you is they're easy day that's what I think it was honestly like this is like a scary story or whatever and it's it's important to talk about and Yada Yada Yada but like honesty that was Jesus never had swords of course because my dad throughout apple cider we had it for three days look like the farm houses and Columbia and then they're just like wall decorations so whenever you walk in there's just little houses all over the wall see I don't I don't think my father words version of midlife crisis for some of them where they were like what we put our money and I'm going to play some cool towards what I think your family used them now within for men too much I'm not kidding opposite childhood what my parents came from you know what never mind listening we'd like carpets on carpets on our wall my father had had an happening you know we all have files too because we podcast and jake welcome to you say you say was he proud of it in his it comes to your house you can really reach for a sword battle over and citizen I mean there were like my my father was choice tourists so sometimes he got into fights with police can just call them boisterous and then followed it up with that but I don't know they never seem to mind that they were sword months for several months Keith has been emailing his dad as if he's if he's the X. Plus Keith's dad also when he was like thirteen took my stepfather swords from the wall with his friend and then went around the neighborhood in Miami chopping down palm trees family around and this is how we got to this I'm convinced Keith's Dad got in touch with his ex wife of two years and said hey a lot of shenanigans including we realize everything we know about Keith Dad is probably ally including possibly that he was ever a Catholic priest ever broke you and Keith up cheese ex-wife cat sends it to Keith Says Hey your dad's being a Weirdo I'm not new family anymore here's this email keith goes hd video two way audio features on ring devices as a listener you've a special offer on a ring starter kit available right now with the video doorbell in motion activated floodlight Cam I'm the starter kit has everything you need to start building a ring of security run your home just go to ring dot com slash Katie Gee that's ring dot Com oh has e mailed keith in the middle of all this got mixed up between the two and revealed some shit by accident because he doesn't know how to keep track of anything and there's been world so if there's a package delivery or a surprise visitor homeland security you alert and be able to see here and speak to them all from your phone yes do you mind if I use your name and pretend to be you and keep emailing my dad as if I'm you and she goes again I'm not in your family please leave me out so ever since then formed two boys will be boys I guess what they say in America when that was a great time to tell you about ring ring's mission is to make please have put on walls but families the craziest swords on my wall so keith grew up in the country there was nothing to do his parents didn't have any friends no grab and you could see in real time and you can talk through it the front door I'm like he's going to be thousands of dollars it is crazy affordable definitely off the the latest was he was rating to Catherine that he was surprised correct now what we got to is little flirtation between Keith pretending to be his ex and the dad that chain you make my you make this old man slash K. A. T. J. and I've said this before this is the kind of technology that blows my mind maybe because I did grow up in the eighties but you know I would think this kind of thing that you could turn to my house wanted to put sneak one of those stickers on my door all you weren't home because he didn't want to carry the heavy package from his truck and I caught him and I go leave the fucking packing made for itself he does not lend itself to that situation yet not one of you seem disturbed about that eventuality whores thinking that the possibility of no children coming from marital union between needs family is crazy okay 'cause I don't want to just be here judging right I mean well because you know we don't want to leave you out we talked about the weird chip that are immigrant family and it's just gotten so weird with like a lot of intricate details that don't add up between emails and where we're at now where where did we leave off in two young people is ludicrous why were you fucking get all three of you seem to have the same mentality on the matter trying to raise a family while both parents are pursuing show business career is not possible so kyle of course a comic has three kids already and me doing this show isn't GonNa work I often wonder what you'll love it did you want to let people know what's going on with the Cat Daddy emails I'll tell you we got some we got an update okay let me tell you why the link with slash K T G because that takes off even more money but just go there just to see how crazy technology is now ring dot com slash Kfi teach told you I saw delivered that any of my relationships namely and the Katherine how Kyle and by the way every time you say this and I'll try not to do that I resent it ends with it seems that the UN Kyle gave no thought to Raising children I did give thought that's why I'm not having children his show this show his show vocabulary and it goes to I I said I can keep a secret I will if you don't tell them I mean we've instead he must be guessing right he he little palm trees they cost like a thousand dollars each yeah and and made the neighborhood very mad and they showed up to talk to my mom and my Stepdad. Okay Louisa so right you know I'm writing this that's good to read that you could keep a secret I did get nervous I noticed lately though I'm sorry so right before this is when we honey yes a woman's GonNa go do need a babysitter so I'm GonNa let this person inside my body so yeah that that's have guessed that we're getting a lot meanwhile he has email me saying hey I know something about your expert I'm not at liberty to tell you like a like a teasing yeah yeah for my new book so I had Catherine Lombardo Jingle he has a quote you don't forget yeah that's like our new Christmas card like Jingling Libidos for everyone we were that's where we're we were at last okay all right that Kyle is just a son of a gun who's trying to get free babysitting yes so we already had the only reason why anyone can tolerate any of the malaise like from father to kids I'm sorry but right that's where you go she's the good yeah Cat In my dad flirting with with each other then cat says did you tell Keith about these emails he seems to know something hoods safer this would've helped out jake you might already know about their smart video doorbells and cameras that protect millions of people everywhere will ring helps you stay connected to your home anywhere in thank you hold on let me ask you something yes haven't you been pretty blatantly like naming shows like obvious clues we'll whoever's knocking like a Weirdo at your front door it's actually on your app you don't even have to get out of bed you could see who's at your door you don't even need a people it is your people talked about them once in the past and I said all right I won't talk about you again so that is obviously trying to make her have me feel bad like what do you mean you can't say back I see this happened on my life where my mom tries to make me sad and then I'm forced to apologize to my dad so it was all definitely a trick so Israel motives are he rates considering her unique situation and so fucking unique three kids and the kids might be to get a full time I wanNa tell you dad hard like you said about him and naved ounce that my mom called Oh yeah very sad on the phone saying that you know you're gonNA play it keep the molly mom is on now she sounds more sad than angry to me and I said Okay I won't I'm sorry that you would have said something far that part or is he heard something totally different one of the titles like you were talking about Lisa is Jiggling Libido Jesus Dad just stopped did they just assume I'm not talking about that but yes lately it has more blatant than just like in today's show hen the starts by filling in new guest babysitter the end wow he invented nannies did he show she's like first of all she has higher babysitter to come and see me okay you're costing what Tell Kelly tell the lust so upset I can't even pay cover love of your life what your son did wrong now I just know something's wrong and you know amount he does WanNa talk to you said it was really bad so I don't know what it was then Catherine wrote because I wanted to see what does he does even know I'm reading these emails did he see something unrelated he's tried being put in this fucking pile of women we broke up a decade ago we never should have dated and maybe that's what I should have said when I met your parents this was the last email had learned and grown it's amazing the level to which parents can delude themselves of things like that they they don't like the show because of the cursing yes ounces ideas off of an actually get to know my son for who he is oh he said fuck turn it off it must of kids maybe just maybe data's same thing he sent me this weird email he discovered what a podcast is recently discovered that I have one and we're all in big trouble when parent level age discovers linked to get ahead of the emails I don't know is this making sense as to convalescing sal jake you're super new to this this is quite a wicked web again very top what is it above the fold to see that and no like I said Jiggling with veteran new you curse sometimes and of course cars curse Oh you're a scatman now so so so catherine twenty years ago or something but when you say things like that to me you're swearing like when Christian people yeah when people I did get nervous I noticed lately though he seemed to have ice me out giving me the cold shoulder that's unlike him have you talked to him recently as for Kyle Jake for instance and she's usually not nice about it and just you know hey this is happening he's reading these e mails Blah Blah Blah so one of the I'm like has he heard now really messed up to hear your own child like say no because no because I don't know by Your Dad I don't think it's true just trying to imagine minds completely fake and I have caught him cursing casting entire sections of the Internet that have to be moved when a generation's parents like discover what facebook is or whatever everyone has to move to a different APP and stuff the problem that's why things failed vine parents found out yeah so we had to go to tick tock fueling the Silicon Valley at all times which and then that's so funny because son you could say for sure that's not only not cursing but it's very hip it's from like say darn unlike what is darn mean does it not mean Damn I don't understand and also like it's such a it's like way to deviate from what Katherine rates that's good to read that you're not going to share our secrets I did get nervous he my dad has told her I keep secrets very well that's how this whole thing started about six months ago like he doesn't even know that you can write from something that says Catherine right like it's illegal somehow you know what I mean so yes somebody won't present now I thought now I thought it was too vague anti really no this this is going to blow his mind pushes it in this email and she wants to figure out okay what does he know does he know about the emails I put up the poll does Father Mallino the key throw cats emails twenty nine percents somebody really saying if I heard Jake's podcast and I was his parents they'd be like wow this is the stuff that he's interested in he can articulate himself about it he is a person who is also smart that he great man he can just thousand bucks he can get sixteen million and my mom goes now put the checkbook back if she didn't stop him he would have done it but I think you know stat cat is hitting on him by the way thirty year old knock out of a human being not only in looks but like in everything she does has become amazing live and he has lived in nowheres Ville with no one and he's like eight years old but yeah she totally into me so yeah that delusion that a thirty the people you know lame parents dad that your guy said that I should say for she's all instead of curse words which is so funny to me that I'm going to try to do I saw I saw the movie where this woman is writing a book and then it's actually somebody's life okay I don't know dammit I was hoping that Amerique rates on social media sometimes I worry that you're accidentally Keith creating an alternate universe where everything in these emails are true speaking my parents bedroom and my dad has an office downstairs and he went up took the checkbook was going downstairs to pay the money God bless blasts that night the whole of Nigeria found out he's I see it's very lucrative you should look into babysitting and also the acting as I speaking from a place of expertise on the subject when clearly like you Catherine Helen wrote me and said I just downloaded your autobiography and Holy Shit Chapter One holy Jesus what she says the great American novel of course I describe it as I totally know victim blaming I do think that they target people who aren't on the Internet a lot and are older but I think part of this is the same part that believes it also says that we all say must be coincidence that it says Jesus said please stop got to be somebody else's said I'm not the only well I hope you're doing well I'll continue praying for us both so you just turned into your Gat that last I did because that is how my dad that's exactly how my dad would talk to at least shit and then I would pretend it upset me I'm like dad what didn't go see bubble WH- Shitski bubble it's a made aboard what I'll see your psycho yes worse and my autobiography before I knew what a creep my dad was is like watching the six cents for the second time Oh the clues were there a stranger than fiction all right so now my dad rates back and I'm I was surprised and I'm waiting for it to be like Keith Hi you know it's not so he rates the WHO knows about babysitting it's very possible I know babysitters nowadays at least NYC are lucrative jobs they're pretty expensive dumb thing to say again disagreeing with her I know I saw a movie with typing movie about sad clown they'll try to give the benefit of the doubt so that things could make sense and it's like why is he just misusing quite a while and it's been eleven days now it's him after my mom sent that message I texted her back oh I can't talk right now because I was emotionally ready I didn't want the oath but I said Oh I can't talk right now but that's been inappropriately talking to my ex we may have deleted some of it since he heard how my wife was great how greatly it offended my wife by the way I didn't mention this parts of the kitchen object the in the studio he's the writer he's the writer but he never gave us the script and then he's upset when we go off script even we didn't know we're in a move to your dad as long as gas lighting your let me fill you in jake he almost fell for a Nigerian scam really yeah the check book was kept in going on and promoting it does not have a computer well every time the ever heard the show because he did they know they don't like the vocabulary so they know not to push I've not talked to him in quite a while I very recently came across some videos that he and Kinda made concerning my wife and myself that's another download for capitulating the situation to make it seem one way to her and one way to sounds like he does this to whomever he's talking to yesterday and he like will say whatever he has to say to make was on Saturday night live she was in the ghostbusters oh the one I don't think that's what house right now it was with will ferrell completely inappropriate while I was a guest on your show Louise's questions yeah you wouldn't be like Gotcha noted and moving on Allitt Quincy call now we can move on tennis review she gives you the review not the title and then you apply to the movie you light be imprudent for me to comment on them in writing so what he saw me and him to say was so vile it's not even true to write it down in an email guests who knows no okay okay thank you injury good luck I would exchange than fixing okay you know like when you describe something like that about your partner you don't go no way you're like all right I don't get it but yes that is the Weirdo that I'm stuck with me thank you get it jake if it helps anyone Queen Latifah was in it does it does okay Oh desire to speak with him until he makes a very sincere apology to me and to his mother and to publicly retreat all the falsehoods that he has said about me wait are we sure that he's dead it's it's his mom I to me it's starting to sound like he 'cause that's permitted his co host to say about me now if you list what we said and then tell us which one are false will happily college is okay doing whatever Keith is upset with you about has nothing to do with me because Oh we don't even manufacturing some kind of like and he can explain to you what's going on now do not apologize bright which is fun I'm forty five but I never said anything like that I should say what did your mom say to that yes sounds like he's trying to play a game of chicken and he's not he's not going to give up his bluff so he's going to be like I think he knows but I'm going to keep acting they don't know because a lot of what you just read his him being like he revealed what he wanted to happen when he told your mom they he was you guys were saying things about that right Ah I have not talked to Keith in quite a while lied what a weird lie you did you did talk to me in quite a while and I'm trying to and I try to so I finally got the email prince wants to have sex with Dick a year old hot fucking best time of her life would be into you is the same as like we of course I'm a prince from all times and they need to give me millions of dollars I of course of course I believe you keep something something's going on and I don't want to deal with it even different partnerships like I have a partnership with Keith you you guys have a partnership if somebody went like Jacobsen the situation the way he wants to see our friend Craig described it as the Truman show but were all the Truman you know he's the and permitted his coast to say about me over the years Kinky Fia Permission so he tells me that is show I think he means that it's his show he tells me you get caught raping a kid and you're in trouble for raping a kid and doing not nice things on our milking this you would know just by what's called the most it was my view is ending story the heavy set woman who's a very good actress mhm asked Rotunda I guess you never heard of the laws dealing with liable fucking name out of your mouth meeting liable call them the which I had in what would know about the price of babysitting she doesn't live in New York she doesn't have kids should do like a Nigerian prince scam that it is his show so what he permits coast the say on it is also his responsibility and I get to stay in the country Keith says it's okay look up spreading falsehoods lying false insinuations and open mockery now he's one of these he's one of these judges live from all the sides but I've no desire to speak to him until he makes a very sincere apology to me and to his mother and to publicly retreat all the falsehoods that he has said about me Alexa aren't we could people them what if I marked that she had a tumor is if we don't awesome I'm the wall I feel like now maybe it would be different what are you gonNa do the sort on the wall my brother he's looking up obscure legal terms I guess you never heard of the laws dealing with liable calumny lying false insinuations and open macher point no defends I'm not giving him credit I think he is suspicious that is telling did she goes okay honey great to hear I'll talk to you soon yeah so you nationally the delusion delusion but non she's just like all right I'll let it go so you are you saying you think he knows that I'm writing cats emails and he's being clever because stop hearing now that's too much too much I changed when they try to say that trump is money comes in for even for them to make fun of my wife's health situation is the pits Shirley Keith knows better and I would like it if we made yeah it's GonNa put together a lawsuit the puck out of town he's going to get a class action together all the people you guys have ever Kelham need on here of course let's into that Nigerian front of her health situation or lifestyle and that's me being allies Bo- yeah yeah I like how implications like the kind we are that we don't make fun of her you okay and that he's like now using this as another opportunity of these words will get to Keith that Fox mowing push yeah exactly I'm GonNa push the it would be to your ex-wife to my ex plus I wanNA keep you wet it would dry up but I have free at the thing that we sell them ever talked in person you know how many people are in jail for open knocking calling mockery and for four different kinds of lying acute out show into a you know you're in a safe space now right so I can't help but wonder what did he see he doesn't know about view is mark may tumor I know you have no way of knowing the answers to these situations undesired venting a little sorry you should be glad that you are no longer part of it right right and I just wonder like how much of this type of gas lighting can a person live with without deteriorating a little bit and not feeling like you well after he logged into AOL dot com types in https remember guest Troy Allen we had on he found out his dead do the Google the girl Kyle pops up a ten minute video called me talk about these titles that Henry but that's that's the one that he saw and it's like Oh you're making fun of dementia and of course you're you're mocking me because I talk about my dad and how oddly he and you know slanders Mike Catt feel like like how much the whole neighborhood Alison it's like he stuck his hand in a fire and is now squirting lighter fluid on it to put the flames out what does the law but open mockery labeled meeting Keats parents and it talks about me realizing that she does have dementia and how we go restaurant and she'll she'll take try a little bit picking up his actions that he's had for decades and I questioned what did he always have dementia molding decades some thinking and again who knows you never can tell for yourself of how you talk to women and especially that it's your son's girlfriend and it's always fucking Christmas it's it's when you find that somebody Oh yes and I don't I don't think I've ever heard because making fun of Keats Mom's situation never at what I did notice so I'm guessing okay what could he do what's a simpleton in English not cat language hey you wanna go bowling laid into the amusement one of my siblings do you want to go bowling later cattle that's right you can't because you're a cat you don't know how to vote you know how your your parents have been together for decades and decades and decades right yeah I think I think they celebrating forty fifty years fifty 'cause you're forty five and you have an older go through the email and so they turn around to get mad at you you looked through my mother fucker that wasn't catch up on the bed that's all I'm saying do you think that your dad found this video that was a multiple pedophile he says Jesus I'm starting to feel pretty lucky department did he say that Oh my God oh yeah he got the whole sibling the grandeur like this sounds like he yeah yeah always hit on women that I brought over and how kyle kicked him mocking fat and he's so fucking lucky that's all we're doing like you you should be ashamed don't make a mockery dome off the cat I would and I'm not obsessed with the concept of mockery teasing the cat with food or anything I would say was to anyway legitimately think it's against a lot of make fun of him that's so funny because he had a he had a rule when you were younger don't make fun of the cat did with over here that and be like do not mock the cat if you really need to present and it's present yeah with with thousands presents short coco now no good little bit a chicken salad at a chain restaurant Oh God and I mentioned how it reminds me of my dad wit behind everyone's back like we always did make America great again well Joe is writing he didn't want you getting sued for Public Mockery with the cat he was looking at Tom Sending CDs to People Jenny says I don't know how you're dead is able to walk around with those balls of his can't tell what's real anymore it's every day that you're getting guests how can you tell me what I can and can't say don't do it I my ass and made a mockery in front of a bunch of people and I hate to say but I cried left me left the venue I thank you I'm just like mall I said was you're funny joke about me being lesbian you should be proud of that you said that you're very happy and then I said that you touched my ass it didn't please me something he's not that clever fair maybe he like he would think he's the environment but he's really just sending letters he forgot that early I okay but what about you being sexual with my ex I didn't podcast it just punched my Pud to it don't do it it was too much that I'm that I'm reading these emails out don't write them these people think they can get away with everything but the no ask it's a perfect antithesis for people who are like mad at the metoo movement and Shit like that because it's like this is what the people who are mad at me to this is what they act like they are the type of people who are like oh you shouldn't say that and don't say things on record in don't and make sure they don't hear you but then behind the scenes they're fucking sticking hands up your skirt which part do not want me to say which part are you not gonNa ever do again so that nobody says that about you double standard that people have were forgiving your permission dad's true yeah I mean you know you gotta take your leadership role well I don't like what you said about me what I will stop Keith right now what I bring a woman over you know like the show you can you should say the nice things about me but not the other thing it's like Oh you know what are we talking about here is freedom of speech or not you know what with me for so long yeah like he because he has the blame it on somebody happiest son so it'll be yes that's true I'll send me himself was what it should be but probably can't be a man you know so right yeah well the man let me Talk Sal who are we blaming now such vicious cycle is manipulative tactic right that's where I guess she never heard of laws dealing with liable colony lying false insinuations open mockery talking cat rape next Geez what was the last one he's last one was where Catt revealed herself to be soaking up some of Mr Meles ability politics let's call it let's name it a nice word no I know but you know what I mean like this idea of matters more how you're seeing and how you present yourself I mean you're right you know they shouldn't be saying these kinds of things have you considered talking to a lawyer and see what he said Ou and say we can do a class action suit she can't stop talking I can't call me do you think that when your dad finally figured this out his mind is just going to shatter and he's going to turn into like the unabomber yeah I think she should write him back about how great I am I think you should try to thin down your dad do I should try to get them to send out of your mouth and I think catch should suggest legal action like we should go sukey yeah like not put it out there like for sure but just like about trump that we can get him in on it too and he'll be like of course I can talk trump I'm an American I don't I don't want I don't want him to spend my mom's money on salesman sells nothing would be really weird if one of them ended up dying in the didn't have life insurance bright because I think you hit on them and so pretty he oh yeah Mr Molly member when you thought I was hot wanted some member that remember when you look then how you actually behave which is it's the start of an abusive cycle and not just that it's when I listened to these emails on the Pied Piper they were mad at the new I see you disown them I know that son of a gun staying owned I'm not disowning anything he is so angry Syrian scam that we can create a New York scam what are we gonNA call it but then I'm like you guys have no money and I heard money for like nudes and stuff cat wants a tribute you know I was thinking as we were talking about how he was GonNa Fall for an happen sure GEICO commercial about seeing court because I bet he sold at least one policy thank you well you just fixed it something horrible Shit and writing your ecstasy males usually it's I don't know exactly I remember what who Jackie martling like home hundred. NFL players are now sleeping on sleep number beds improves their game with better sleep sleep and performance they go together and what they have now by the way so my for the next night until I figured out exactly based on my day how I want my bed while now they of sleep number three sixty smart beds in adjusts when you toss and turn ends a forty-five last night and Kyle was over and hers was thirty what you guys get along yes you can have each have different that's amazing yeah yeah amazing come in during the fall sale were queen sleep number three sixty smart bed is now only one thousand three hundred ninety nine I use sleep number bed company right you know what they're they also partner with the NFL these guys need to sleep well my sleep number's of fifty thank you for asking sleep number's the official sleep in on this partner of the NFL you'll only find sleepnumber at one of their six hundred sleepnumber stores nationwide find one near you at least they look sleep movie have you seen it I did I saw it with my mom was weird idea because usually hang out or go to the movies together anything I was on tour KNBR DOT com slash K. A. T. G. I mean it doesn't hurt right now to just go to sleepnumber dot com slash K T G and it helps the show right You alluded Jake to the joker the Iron Centre God you're so pretty I looked away and down memory that dude there does seem to be like a real consistent thread of he seems to be obsessed with like ed I got it some time ago and the next morning it'll tell me when did I toss and turn in I can I can go I think I wanted to be a little firmer softer ultimately so we can't explain to my mold that I'm taking money from him and I'm putting in her accounts comedian and his own mother and his mother was just it was so uncomfortable because all time I'm going to be a comedian he's all delusional Salaam I think he'd really go for it I thought we would just gas him up to talk about the ways he could legally but now you're right if he actually might do it then don't don't give them the okay I've been thinking about seeing that movie you watch together and I was like sure I didn't realize there was going to be just a huge psycho drama between this You know mentally ill meeting she's like and she turned that she's like honey unit funny while also my name is the girl and nothing that I say counts fucking name in the all right how do I sleep after all this megabucks to Houston was like it drops off at a movie theater I need to watch his movie for Louisa is PODCAST WE'RE GONNA talk about it hey I'm GonNa Watch a movie and my mom the on the nose jokers the number one movie for the second week in a row number two the addams family doesn't this okay own that she has to move right I think we solved it you guys do you know it'd be he's a he's supposedly a life insurance just software firmer at any time I want to have a pit crew coming in and just click a button on my APP and I'm golden delicious so one hundredth year of the NFL more than eighteen and like I said my folks live in Texas where I grew up and I was coming to swing by and see my family for a couple of days before I came back to New York and I was thinking best reason I've ever heard to watch that fucking addams family and then Gemini Man at number three first weekend at number three it's a will smith movie movies that are good to stay on there I I went to see that with my mom which one hustlers really Gerald as I'm GonNa be a stripper apparently there's a in the movie will Smith has clone and the clones have to battle each other so you see will smith younger and as he have his hustles came out they were number one for one week only right it was quick yet doesn't that prove it was fake number one do you know what I mean that good yes no no that I have a theory that a couple important or powerful movie reviewers said it's Shit and then people were just jumping on it because this looks great they just came out I didn't see yet but I will I see rotten tomatoes critic scored twenty six percent pretty bad I finding a Zombie every other day everyone loved that Shit's on like Oh this is going to be great I do think there is some hate for for what's his face ago because my mom really loves Jennifer Lopez Okay Yeah because Oh Latin women loved support The addams family is the Will Smith Will Smith because he seems to have such a perfect life and he seems to be very well balanced and also rich also have the hottest wife and his children are well no there's no way it's going to be good okay when does he do bad well to me I saw the the posters around around town and I just think shade I'm going to be a stripper now down with but but nobody was like yeah you should see this you know what I mean like the whoever was going to see it saw that first week but shing and whatnot but I think it is this thing of he is perceived as always playing to the lowest common denominator the man that people went to see the first week in and then tweeted and talked about how it wasn't good and then other people didn't go see it I don't even think they said it wasn't good I think people are like Oh this is regular people score eighty four percent I think what's going on is that it would for people to go watch a movie they have to hear that it was really good or really bad if it's landing that middle area the way to market it I saw will Smith fighting well Smith he's on his one will smith is on a motorcycle then jumps off it and throws the motorcycle doing a willie like it's a weapon and I'm like it is like what if we say it sucks we'll go watch ironically yeah I just saw an action movie trailer but apparently everybody but me sage now and ice I saw so much thought before came on social media just Shinhan it like they can tell from the trailer it's not going to be good I don't know how people the me mom I'm the bad person this movie there's a part in the movie where the way he tells his mom he's giving her a bath and he tells her hidden underground alternative Blah Blah kind of content and things idols and whatever and will Smith is one of the fucking still living Oh this is a movie that's not for me but he always plays in these giant movies like what was the end of the world wine than any of yeah that was just him doing exercises in adjusted and and all this stuff and feel like you know there's there was originally a sellout thing to him and or he's like one of the good blacks there's like a lot of and now we're in a world of like more niche since the Internet I would say of like people are more refined and their tastes and they're proud of the fact that they look for defensive performer yeah that's that's where all of his success comes from his from being you know popular thing which is in the nineties before the Internet changed everything uh-huh yeah honey you're not planning do you think of the movie it was okay let's kind of boring but sorry but it was okay why the he basically does all the right things so I don't know why he gets any hate other than it's just pure history I mean what what are you hating about will Smith

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3168: To Kill a Mocking Bird w/ Luisa Dez and Jake Flores

Keith and the Girl Comedy Talk Show

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3168: To Kill a Mocking Bird w/ Luisa Dez and Jake Flores

"I I do follow us on social media you just go under Keith and the girl for everything if I follow us on social media is that Meta well I will learn what Meta means so fucking health me welcome and Keith and the girl I'm Keith Malley him the you know you can follow us on social media uh-huh and you actually asked her if it's awkward to stay with the person who she found out that was cheating on her and then lighter face about she told the story about comes from misery she was all set right she talks about kice yearly stand up show having Vinny from Jersey shore as an emcee and receiving light bulbs as a gift from Keith. I laugh I've had since I get that yeah yeah well more at least they lease you don't go to the movies alone that'd be weird right a hard time having a Columbus Day many cities and states are changing it to indigenous day those states that are changing it are they also changing the books to stop reading US found out my boyfriend was cheating the whole time now I guess that means the entire relationship at my sister's advice will sign up for kick boxing class ladies Cutoff Lightbulb for her birthday fancy lightbulb she discusses working on Fox News Red Eye working with staunch conservatives performing standup that we had to mention that's not usually that's not a usual my opening line line of interrogation that's what I tried to interrupt with this is not usual but the three kids in front of them and upsetting family with jokes so since we have four keeping the girl episodes those who are used to listening to five Monday through Friday when you're out jokes more daddy males they're in talk about it and the minute all right we have two guests for you today first off producer of the weekly show too many cooks he admits it doesn't no it doesn't then he was hauled off to fucking emotional jail and he'd still didn't fuck admit it right well see this post for Morris saying finding period blood when she was on some kind of trip or vacation he said not wasn't Perry blood it was a ketchup apparently the bulla ketchup in bed and she goes ready yes Keith's girlfriend an parentheses Anna comic was performed worldwide for over a decade including multiple military towards discusses early stand up in winces including Rita redner and blatant sexism that has carried over from then to now guest Carlo Cossio talks about a first performances as a new mom in a miserable relationship theory well that's a bummer. Well we bummer thanks for starting the show that's how we got good news you know we'll do four shows this week celebrate Canadian thanksgiving with newly deceased parents so us when she decided to start comedy like she is in her early thirties her parents just died and she had three babies Oh yeah okay well let's put some catch up on the bed and said Oh I didn't know as the psychopath so she puts catch up on the bed he goes well it dried and she goes okay we'll wait go to my opening line dot com or just you know find my opening line where you're listening to this and make sure you get some of that a speaking of upsetting family and how he was a hero and where he landed and what he did to engine today so much easier than writing out every book no Pun the kids are like what's in deep so she stayed there for like two days really he finally breaks down and admits it but they were not even I I hate that that the only language we have for that is and then listen they're like just shut the fuck up and have a day off but we'll also have a new episode of my opening line this one with Kyle Cossio here's the description oh which by the way now has become a place where people come from out of the country to say hello to me this and hangouts Lucky Jackson in New York City goes to the podcast white you mad ouch twitter and Instagram to follow Ron Cameron he says this is going to be a great inside baseball episode why are you mad oh my God hi how are you Lewis said that follows she's a comedy pacemaker. She knows what's going went on with the INS and outs I listened to the first show she was on if you haven't I it's episode two thousand nine hundred thirty four a more Orissa's e Pablo s his partner killed by an uncle when a rival cartel barring Louisa was the head of the memorial exhibit at the Nine Eleven Museum where she would id the dead so a lot of personality pretense of my words don't matter you know they get to hide behind it yeah and that allows them the freedom to make these jokes about things maybe go against their own beliefs or the beliefs sort of softens the environment and your response to people in their response to you but you know you're kind of lying about where you are when you do that absolutely Graham at ferrol jokes Jake Flora's how you doing Jake I am quite well this morning good morning like a lot about on the podcast why is I think maybe the power the quality in comedy comes from that pretending on on you wanna see what's happening there the I'm following the tweets right now joke surges jokes she rates in quotes words nothing comedy is dom but rating of perfect joke is the only thing that Lino and it goes back to the idea of the class clown right when you think about some comics at least when they were little they were class clowns in school and it was this way of coping the bottom with Lewis says yes that's accent for everything so please don't be offended Louise explains her views of Comedians in different cities Louise's father was Pablo Escobar's business you kill one ice agent and you get to wear Sombrero to kills you can wear a Poncho and ice saw this right they still haven't escaped would made you guessed that there's a matters and the only reason I was put on the Earth says all my favorite comics frown face sad right yeah like is it important is a non important do they I guess the Luisa Diaz is Louisa de as nuts Louisa how you doing hey guys how are you good the sad cody Alan listening live on our youtube and he saw that you were Good morning did you last night a live show and other podcast pod America had a big old show little field just one opinion got a tweet it we can't talk only me no response from you know I think they can decide or something I talked with is why I think it's morning and I I'm pickled do wear an army book bag when you went to high school like candid conversation with Homeland Security specifically which is the parent company of ice and so what is your style in Kabul Mechanism for feeling like outsiders or like they didn't know health to relate to the people around them so they did it by joking and a lot a lot of us avoided getting uh-huh Yes yes it's one of those jobs I get I think you get when you like you couldn't pass the police exam it's like a security guard sort of situation they sent Homeland Security to my apartment and that's the detectives so what I got was what I am imagining on their end was a very bad episode of the x files like in the face by being right yeah so I think it is this way of using why just acted like I was threatened all my life threatening to punch people don't hey they were detectives and they had to come to my apartment to talk to me and I think that they've kind of from the GATT were like this is GonNa this is they looked me up they'd know him a comedian you know so people in the room or that kind of thing maybe we're all doing that a lot like when when we don't Wanna get intimate we hide our intimacy by throwing joke out there so I feel like that yeah well I'll tell you what the then the look that does describing perhaps didn't help you when you made a joke on twitter is his last year what was it still scary because that's it's so official when the door and it was early in the morning rate in what I call the morning which is this time of day he's here I was born in America I'm just of Mexican descent but I think what's going because this is important distinction to make because if they sent ice okay here's how Cinco De Maya Work Twenty eighteen love it white people are allowed to culturally appropriate on the condition that you helped to destroy ice somebody tries to like you know what what do you call it when you can't go out as a kid ground you would they grounded for day or you like fucking making a month to month fuck it and normally wouldn't answer because You know I live in a sketchy building in you know who knows legal stuff going on with the building but darkness is look in quote industrial right yeah Shimmer and they're very good the guy from breakfast club that was angry all the it just for the record three in the don't tell Jake but just for us to know the one you described that time you say that you were hung over then too different on twitter I mean you type delivery explain that when ice comes to your door you go wait a second I know it's just written here's the tone actually had a very why are you interested so many times I mean I grew up in a big city in Houston you know now again Houston Kinda right the name let's be intense conversation again well joining us is your Co Host Ladies and Gentlemen Coast of why you mad podcast you can follow the twitter and then yeah we worried about a problem no I've gotta cry live a charmed life so did they do they literally they're pounding on your door that wakes you up maybe that's why homeland security I opened the door and there are four guys and they say Homeland Security and hold a bad job there in a move and do you know I'm secured by a constant sort of just presence and also bad luck I suppose related or I mean all their things in toilets water problems for me but everyone did you did you through the first people okay don't live a normal I thought it was this guy who was supposed to come fix the toilet because he also bangs like that and then I'm necessary right how do you bang like homeland security fix my toilet yes we've now illegally started late and now they're gonNA dull so the cops don't chaser I imagine you at all I'm I actually say thank you for smoking weed ahead of time because I think that got us to where we are today but I when you say when we ask why did you get arrested and go because I grew up in a city I'm going to need more tax money man annoying history nerd kid was like this is because of did you get into fights or anything like that yes me and my friend Joe got jumped underneath the bridge in Austin one time lake very smart of them it was because once traffic sir get your shit together I really think people need etiquette of how to knock and ring the doorbell ninety I mean I think you know what I mean gently call out I'm here to fix the aces grunts skies with the hotdog neck in the eighth grade you're just a bitch is exaggerates I love doing the Lenny Bruce Somebody reads the joke and I'm like it goes a little bit you have to be a joke you think people are reading it's moving your underneath an overpass right so you can't make noise nobody's GonNa hear you and you can't get away and the people driving too fast AC- you so just a drunk environment just a living jumped a few times like just random gangs stuff or whatever will you beat Dang turns yes where there's like a sweet undertone behind it but it's like but I'm still wearing black so like the cities where everybody drives whenever before the age that you have a car I grew up in Miami you walk in the most fucked up places like you walk on the size of coming to this day is pretty bad I take him to the hospital through guy into a car which I'm quite proud of it was cool ways that don't have sidewalks and you get pulled over by the cops because you're in a place where there are no not supposed to be pedestrians by the way I've walked those walks I found myself on so you think to get the money to pay for the stuff that they're not taxing and most of its traffic so that what you said while being arrested and then they left luckily I was just a weird Albany this is like in my twenty s I was like twenty five or something like that L. to get into they do very clever they timed whereas like where you're GonNa go and then okay I got a fight like ten people or whatever and how badly hurt I not it was more flippant in the in this scenario than I probably should have been like worse case a Bologna Sandwich highway and I wish I could say I was somewhere Texas but I was in Queens Oh my God and I was like I'm on a highway now I don't know what happened you recognize any of these a bit had fights started at me I'm not much of a fight starter myself I do fight start at you like why why do you usually get targeted is a person that was the leading into smoking weed out of a coke can in the street and you know police being swings overhead what's going to judge you on like why were you under a bridge or underpass but then I remembered I was growing up and I definitely spend time gay trained fighter but I'm not afraid to get punched in the face which is the biggest white how for the biggest thing you need to get over if you are in a fight is just that I mean you know I got beat up it wasn't too bad my friend Joe got hidden in the underneath the I I think I was wearing a ring and so he's gets his wicked like action movies scar underneath his eyeball because now during the interview you said I've been arrested a lot of times I didn't get the feeling that's what they were looking for Blah Blah Blah us there's ten people you're all low twenties Douala the recognize him from the neighborhood oh no no I mean this isn't downtown Austin and they were his specify how hung over I was in the story of this is that it gives you this sort of like super power of not really caring whether you live or die broken weeden okay maybe because you were smoking weed legally right he's like how did they find me a backpack Jiji she me I turned on the microphones we started podcast guys homeland security once you start comedy but you gotTa keep repeating yourself soon do you worry hey I better watch my words I know it's about this tweet immediately or I'm GonNa sit this guy down just explain I'm a comic that's it was the reason like I'm a comedian okay but what are you comedian you know I maybe I'm one of those people that constantly just has like one half of an argument my head all the time but yeah well I mean I made a point pretty quickly which was that this is not a thing that is enforced across the board if you worried about you know people provoking people on okay so they had like the white button downs and like the lanyard sort of situations in like one guy had a camera around his neck they were very like and you to run around where did you grow up okay so the price per relationship I mean Jamaica chased Rabah cops and your kid they looked like undercover Mormons they looked like the characters all the TV show homeland like the professional attire neared l. beans or thing going on his favorite thing you said under bridges so but not a twenty five though that's still seems weird you had to walk there to get to the parking that's the problem to the non line why don't you go mess with Roseanne Barr and Alex Jones who at the time were pretty freely spitting their token ah you feel awful anyway and they're just like something's going to happen I don't have too much power over whether they're gonna you know tall the off or not so I'll just have the conversation heavy brawls yeah I don't mean to aid shame you lose please stop me every time it gets into fights all the time carries a large chain around New York and or have a kid that is the advice you give you say that the homeland security door solicit them not afraid to get punched very hung over the real Roseanne and I mean the guy when I said that he kind of went yeah I was like what's your that easy the point being that they're they're like a right wing conspiracy theorists to east l. them their handles access the low tax thing oh the government stays out of my business right I don't pay taxes will they take the taxes you'd get arrested constantly it's just part of Texas cultures this guy did they spend at your place we talked for about forty five minutes or an hour or so fast yeah really how do you talk about this for an hour that doesn't sound fast Vince why are you here they'll take your police state tips like how to be a police state may not contrary maybe going wouldn't have but eventually someone flagged it and they got taken down and that was a it was just that day that our yeah some kind of homeland probation with the things that I put online and the things that I do with my own self safety or whatever if I had kids or something but you know comedian I'm the important when a tweet it no I do think that but I don't really care that much because you know I would probably be acting wildly different got you know who knows where it was also fast and blurry I wouldn't recognize moves on your car I'm not vibe got was that they were like I tell Susic sort of started to do their thing that they were dislike we need check off and make sure this isn't a complete psychopath and it's just some dude southwestern phase and there's a lot of what is the green one turquoise and like silver and stuff all over the place Dominican stepfather that also got some I was like I was like I've been thinking about this all day let's let's talk about this what is a joke you know what is the nature of your best pointless homeland security so you know I told him the main guy there was four these guys were the one that was like their leader or whatever they want to they all wearing suits and sunglasses please please please we'd Amo citizen I'm okay it actually ran in my head I'm like who they're going to come after me I'm with Jake tweet that do you think hey this could cause happening you know we all have files too because we podcast and jake welcome to you say you say was he proud of it in his interview somebody like you is they're easy day that's what I think it was honestly like this is like a scary story or whatever and it's it's important to talk about and Yada Yada Yada but like honesty Louis Rates Homeland Security's comics to walk that's great you know honestly as we're talking I'm like and number after all this question ironically no have that I like we we could do behind the scenes shit but it's like I don't know what color wall I should have so he put swords on it really and then my father got two swords and put it on the wall I don't did you have any weird shit like that my mom went through a series whatever it is you know did they ask you to delete it it eventually got taken down just by twitter I don't have to do it on it's decorate my house like a you know like my mom did you have that I mean me growing up like I am soared because he was designing the house to be everything he wanted to be I think everyone in my family is bad at design for just you know we don't the problem but who cares or do you think there's no way this stupid little comment is going to bring national security to my half no matter remember Keith. It doesn't matter this was more New York thing New York in the eighties all of a sudden decided that like Chinese stuff was pouring and people started wearing Chinese dresses you know those person who is able to do all this stuff recklessly with little to no consequence congrats and thank you for your service it seems to be everything it is it's like Oh coincidence Meta Ironic Meta I saw post by Mara Merrick who was on recently Mannequin Keith totally assuming that Latinos are the same come on this is a different kind of weird because my mom actually put up for Colombians it's like these little weird houses what my parents came from you know what never mind listening we'd like carpets on carpets on our wall my father had had an do I have a like a what do you call it a file but I was told a little pad of that file of course always like your was it traumatic and I'm GonNa coolest thing ever that was Jesus never had swords of course because my dad throughout Apple Cider we had it for three days that's what we do a picture of like must've been some Persian or Arab guy drinking tea has the painting on the wall I don't look like the farm houses and Columbia and then they're just like wall decorations so whenever you walk in there's just little houses all over the wall see I don't I don't think my father within for men too much I'm not kidding opposite childhood words version of Midlife crisis for some of them where they were like what we put our money and I'm going to play some cool towards what I think your family used them now choice tourists so sometimes he got into fights with police can just call them boisterous and then followed it up with that but I don't know they never seem to mind that they were sword it comes to your house you can really reach for a sword battle over and citizen I mean there were like my my father was months for several months Keith has been emailing his dad as if he's if he's the X. Plus Keith's dad also oh has emailed Keith in the middle of all this got mixed up between the two and revealed some shit by accident because he doesn't know how to keep track of anything and there's been family around and this is how we got to this I'm convinced Keith's Dad got in touch with his ex wife of two years and said hey we'll whoever's knocking like a Weirdo at your front door it's actually on your APP you don't even have to get out of bed you could see who's at your door you don't even need a people it is your people when he was like thirteen took my stepfather swords from the wall with his friend and then went around the neighborhood in Miami chopping down palm trees I'm the starter kit has everything you need to start building a ring of security run your home just go to ring dot com slash Katie Gee that's ring dot com world so if there's a package delivery or a surprise visitor homeland security you alert and be able to see here and speak to them all from your phone yes ever broke you and Keith up cheese ex-wife cat sends it to Keith Says Hey your dad's being a Weirdo I'm not new family anymore here's this email keith goes hd video two way audio features on ring devices as a listener you've a special offer on a ring starter kit available right now with the video doorbell in motion activated floodlight Cam two boys will be boys I guess what they say in America when that was a great time to tell you about ring ring's mission is to make do you mind if I use your name and pretend to be you and keep emailing my dad as if I'm you and she goes again I'm not in your family please leave me out so ever since then formed hoods safer this would've helped out jake you might already know about their smart video doorbells and cameras that protect millions of people everywhere will ring helps you stay connected to your home anywhere in please have put on walls but families the craziest swords on my wall so keith grew up in the country there was nothing to do. His parents didn't have any friends no slash K. A. T. J. and I've said this before this is the kind of technology that blows my mind maybe because I did grow up in the eighties but you know I would think this kind of thing that you could turn a lot of shenanigans including we realize everything we know about Keith Dad is probably ally including possibly that he was ever a Catholic priest to my house wanted to put sneak one of those stickers on my door all you weren't home because he didn't want to carry the heavy package from his truck and I caught him and I go leave the fucking packing made for itself correct now what we got to is little flirtation between Keith pretending to be his ex and the dad that chain you make my you make this old man needs family is crazy okay 'cause I don't want to just be here judging right I mean well because you know we don't want to leave you out we talked about the weird chip that are immigrant family lombardo jingle he has a quote you don't forget yeah that's like our new Christmas card like Jingling Libidos for everyone grab and you could see in real time and you can talk through it the front door I'm like he's going to be thousands of dollars it is crazy affordable definitely you'll love it did you want to let people know what's going on with the cat daddy emails I'll tell you we got some we got an update okay let me tell you why little palm trees they cost like a thousand dollars each yeah and and made the neighborhood very mad and they showed up to talk to my mom and my Stepdad Okay Louisa so show business career is not possible so kyle of course a comic has three kids already and me doing this show isn't GonNa work I often wonder what being put in this fucking pile of women we broke up a decade ago we never should have dated and maybe that's what I should have said when I met your parents this was the last email he does not lend itself to that situation yet not one of you seem disturbed about that eventuality whores thinking that the possibility of no children coming from marital union between and it's just gotten so weird with like a lot of intricate details that don't add up between emails and where we're at now where where did we leave off the link with slash K T G because that takes off even more money but just go there just to see how crazy technology is now ring dot com slash. KFI teach told you I saw delivered it ends with it seems that the UN Kyle gave no thought to Raising children I did give thought that's why I'm not having children his show this show his show vocabulary that any of my relationships namely and the Katherine how Kyle and by the way every time you say this and I'll try not to do that I resent in two young people is ludicrous why were you fucking get all three of you seem to have the same mentality on the matter trying to raise a family while both parents are pursuing off the the latest was he was rating to Catherine that he was surprised and it goes to I I said I can keep a secret I will if you don't tell them I mean we've instead he must be guessing right he he honey yes a woman's GonNa go do need a babysitter so I'm GonNa let this person inside my body so yeah that that's the only reason why anyone can tolerate any of the malaise like from father to kids I'm sorry but right that's where you go she's the good yeah Cat In my dad flirting with with each other then cat says did you tell Keith about these emails he seems to know something on now she sounds more sad than angry to me and I said Okay I won't have guessed that we're getting a lot meanwhile he has email me saying hey I know something about your expert I'm not at Liberty Thank you hold on let me ask you something yes haven't you been pretty blatantly like naming shows like obvious clues what Tell Kelly tell the lust so upset I can't even pay cover love of your life what your son did wrong now I just know something's wrong and you know right you know I'm writing this that's good to read that you could keep a secret I did get nervous I noticed lately though I'm sorry so right before this is when we ounce that my mom called Oh yeah very sad on the phone saying that you know you're gonNA play it keep the molly mom is i WanNa tell you dad hard like you said about him and naved back I see this happened on my life where my mom tries to make me sad and then I'm forced to apologize to my dad so it was all definitely a trick so that part or is he heard something totally different one of the titles like you were talking about Lisa is Jiggling Libido Jesus Dad just stopped to tell you like a like a teasing yeah yeah for my new book so I had Catherine did they just assume I'm not talking about that but yes lately it has more blatant than just like in today's show hen the starts by filling in new guest we were that's where we're we were at last okay all right that kyle is just a son of a gun who's trying to get free babysitting yes so we already had I'm sorry that you would have said something far talked about them once in the past and I said all right I won't talk about you again so that is obviously trying to make her have me feel bad like what do you mean you can't say Israel motives are he rates considering her unique situation and so fucking unique three kids and the kids might be to get a full time then Catherine wrote because I wanted to see what does he does even know I'm reading these emails did he see something unrelated he's tried going on and promoting it does not have a computer well every time the ever heard the show because he did they know they don't like the vocabulary so they know not to push babysitter the end wow he invented nannies did he show she's like first of all she has higher babysitter to come and see me okay you're costing had learned and grown it's amazing the level to which parents can delude themselves of things like that they they don't like the show because of the cursing yes data's same thing he sent me this weird email he discovered what a podcast is recently discovered that I have one and we're all in big trouble when parent level age discovers amount he does WanNa talk to you said it was really bad so I don't know what it was linked to get ahead of the emails I don't know is this making sense as to convalescing sal jake you're super new to this this is quite a wicked web pushes it in this email and she wants to figure out okay what does he know does he know about the emails I put up the poll does Father Mallino the key throw cats emails twenty nine percents twenty years ago or something but when you say things like that to me you're swearing like when Christian people yeah when people the problem that's why things failed vine parents found out yeah so we had to go to tick tock fueling the Silicon Valley at all times again very top what is it above the fold to see that and no like I said Jiggling with I did get nervous I noticed lately though he seemed to have ice me out giving me the cold shoulder that's unlike him have you talked to him recently as for Kyle Ounces ideas off of an actually get to know my son for who he is oh he said fuck turn it off it must of kids maybe just maybe Jake for instance and she's usually not nice about it and just you know hey this is happening he's reading these e mails Blah Blah Blah so one of the I'm like has he heard say darn unlike what is darn mean does it not mean Damn I don't understand and also like it's such a it's like way to deviate from what Katherine rates that's good to read that you're not going to share our secrets I did get nervous he my dad has told her I keep secrets very well that's how this whole thing started about six months ago so yes somebody won't present now I thought now I thought it was too vague anti really no this this is going to blow his mind like he doesn't even know that you can write from something that says Catherine right like it's illegal somehow you know what I mean somebody really saying if I heard Jake's podcast and I was his parents they'd be like wow this is the stuff that he's interested in he can articulate himself about it he is a person who is also smart that he veteran new you curse sometimes and of course cars curse Oh you're a scatman now so so so catherine which and then that's so funny because son you could say for sure that's not only not cursing but it's very hip it's from like casting entire sections of the Internet that have to be moved when a generation's parents like discover what facebook is or whatever everyone has to move to a different APP and stuff who knows about babysitting it's very possible I know babysitters nowadays at least NYC are lucrative jobs they're pretty expensive dumb thing to say now really messed up to hear your own child like say no because no because I don't know by Your Dad I don't think it's true just trying to imagine minds completely fake and I have caught him cursing great man he can just thousand bucks he can get sixteen million and my mom goes now put the checkbook back if she didn't stop him he would have done it but I think you know I saw I saw the movie where this woman is writing a book and then it's actually somebody's life okay I don't know dammit I was hoping that Amerique rates on social media sometimes I worry that you're accidentally Keith creating an alternate universe where everything in these emails are true speaking live and he has lived in nowheres Ville with no one and he's like eight years old but yeah she totally into me so yeah that delusion that a thirty the people you know lame parents dad that your guy said that I should say for she's all instead of curse words which is so funny to me that I'm going to try to do stat cat is hitting on him by the way thirty year old knock out of a human being not only in looks but like in everything she does has become amazing I see it's very lucrative you should look into babysitting and also the acting as I speaking from a place of expertise on the subject when clearly like you it also says that we all say must be coincidence that it says Jesus said please stop got to be somebody else's said I'm not the only shit and then I would pretend it upset me I'm like dad what didn't go see bubble why Shitski bubble it's a made aboard what I'll see your psycho yes worse my parents bedroom and my dad has an office downstairs and he went up took the checkbook was going downstairs to pay the money God bless blasts that night the whole of Nigeria found out he's a year old hot fucking best time of her life would be into you is the same as like we of course I'm a prince from all times and they need to give me millions of dollars all right so now my dad rates back and I'm I was surprised and I'm waiting for it to be like Keith Hi you know it's not so he rates the and my autobiography before I knew what a creep my dad was is like watching the six cents for the second time Oh the clues were there a stranger than fiction again disagreeing with her I know I saw a movie with typing movie about sad clown I totally know victim blaming I do think that they target people who aren't on the Internet a lot and are older but I think part of this is the same part that believes they'll try to give the benefit of the doubt so that things could make sense and it's like why is he just misusing quite a while and it's been eleven days now it's him Catherine Helen wrote me and said I just downloaded your autobiography and Holy Shit Chapter One holy Jesus what she says the great American novel of course I describe it as in the studio he's the writer he's the writer but he never gave us the script and then he's upset when we go off script even we didn't know we're in a move well I hope you're doing well I'll continue praying for us both so you just turned into your Gat that last I did because that is how my dad that's exactly how my dad would talk to at least we may have deleted some of it since he heard how my wife was great how greatly it offended my wife by the way I didn't mention this parts of the kitchen object the to your dad as long as gas lighting your let me fill you in jake he almost fell for a Nigerian scam really yeah the check book was kept in was on Saturday night live she was in the ghostbusters oh the one I don't think that's what house right now it was with Will Ferrell have not talked to him in quite a while I very recently came across some videos that he and Kinda made concerning my wife and myself that's another download for after my mom sent that message I texted her back oh I can't talk right now because I was emotionally ready I didn't want the oath but I said Oh I can't talk right now but that's been inappropriately talking to my Ex the situation the way he wants to see our friend Craig described it as the Truman show but were all the Truman you know he's the Allitt Quincy call now we can move on tennis review she gives you the review not the title and then you apply to the movie you light absolutely inappropriate while I was a guest on your show Louise's questions yeah you wouldn't be like Gotcha noted and moving on Oh desire to speak with him until he makes a very sincere apology to me and to his mother and to publicly retreat all the falsehoods that he has said about me manipulating the situation to make it seem one way to her and one way to sounds like he does this to whomever he's talking to yesterday and he like will say whatever he has to say to make you know like when you describe something like that about your partner you don't go no way you're like all right I don't get it but yes that is the Weirdo that I'm stuck with me permitted his co host to say about me now if you list what we said and then tell us which one are false will happily college is okay doing whatever Keith is upset with you about has nothing to do with me because Oh we don't even manufacturing some kind of like sounds like he's trying to play a game of chicken and he's not he's not going to give up his bluff so he's going to be like I think he knows but I'm going to keep acting you would know just by what's called the most it was my view is trending stories the heavy set woman who's a very good actress guests who knows no okay okay thank you injury good luck I would exchange than fixing okay I of course of course I believe you keep something something's going on and I don't want to deal with it even different partnerships like I have a partnership with Keith you you guys have a partnership if somebody went like Jacobsen so I finally got the email prince wants to have sex with Dick wait are we sure that he's dead it's it's his mom I to me it's starting to sound like he 'cause that's and he can explain to you what's going on now do not apologize bright which is fun I'm forty five but I never said anything like that what did your mom say to that yes be imprudent for me to comment on them in writing so what he saw me and him to say was so vile it's not even true to write it down in an email they don't know because a lot of what you just read his him being like he revealed what he wanted to happen when he told your mom they he was you guys were saying things about that right look up spreading falsehoods lying false insinuations and open mockery now he's one of these he's one of these judges and permitted his coast to say about me over the years Kinky Fia Permission so he tells me that is show I think he means that it's his show he tells me thank you get it jake if it helps anyone Queen Latifah was in it does it does for sure okay ah I have not talked to Keith in quite a while lied what a weird lie you did you did talk to me in quite a while and I'm trying to I try to that it is his show so what he permits coast the say on it is also his responsibility and I get to stay in the country Keith says it's okay mhm asked Rotunda I guess you never heard of the laws dealing with liable fucking name out of your mouth meeting liable call them the which I had you get caught raping a kid and you're in trouble for raping a kid and doing not nice things on our milking this he's looking up obscure legal terms I guess you never heard of the laws dealing with liable calumny lying false insinuations and open macher live from all the sides but I've no desire to speak to him until he makes a very sincere apology to me and to his mother and to publicly retreat all the falsehoods that he has said about me point no defends I'm not giving him credit I think he is suspicious that is telling awesome I'm the wall I feel like now maybe it would be different what are you gonNa do the sort on the wall my brother did she goes okay honey great to hear I'll talk to you soon yeah so you nationally the delusion delusion but non she's just like all right I'll let it go so you are you saying you think he knows that I'm writing cats emails and he's being clever because stop hearing now that's too much too much I changed when they try to say that trump is Alexa aren't we could people them what if I marked that she had a tumor is if we don't in what would know about the price of babysitting she doesn't live in New York she doesn't have kids should do like a Nigerian prince scam you okay and that he's like now using this as another opportunity of these words will get to Keith that Fox mowing push yeah exactly I'm GonNa push the front of her health situation or lifestyle and that's me being allies Bo- yeah yeah I like how implications like the kind we are that we don't make fun of her money comes in for even for them to make fun of my wife's health situation is the pits Shirley Keith knows better and I would like it if we made yeah it's GonNa put together a lawsuit the puck out of town he's going to get a class action together all the people you guys have ever Kelham need on here of course let's into that Nigerian it would be to your ex-wife to my ex plus I wanNA keep you up but I have free at the thing that we sell them ever talked in person you know how many people are in jail for open knocking calling mockery and for four different kinds of lying acute out show into a you know you're in a safe space now right so I can't help but wonder what did he see he doesn't know about view is mark may tumor I know you have no way of knowing the answers to these situations undesired venting a little sorry you should be glad that you are no longer part of it and you know slanders Mike Catt feel like like how much well after he logged into AOL dot com types in https remember guest Troy Allen we had on he found out his dead labeled meeting Keats parents and it talks about me realizing that she does have dementia and how we go restaurant and she'll she'll take try a little bit for yourself of how you talk to women and especially that it's your son's girlfriend and it's always fucking Christmas it's it's when you find that somebody in English not cat language hey you wanna go bowling laid into the amusement one of my siblings do you want to go bowling later cattle that's right you can't because you're a cat you don't know how to vote picking up his actions that he's had for decades and I questioned what did he always have dementia molding decades some thinking and again who knows you never can tell that was a multiple pedophile he says Jesus I'm starting to feel pretty lucky department did he say that Oh my God oh yeah he got the whole sibling always hit on women that I brought over and how kyle kicked him mocking fat and he's so fucking lucky that's all we're doing like you you should be ashamed right and right and I just wonder like how much of this type of gas lighting can a person live with without deteriorating a little bit and not feeling like you go through the email and so they turn around to get mad at you you looked through my mother fucker that wasn't catch up on the bed that's all I'm saying do you think that your dad found this video oh yes and I don't I don't think I've ever heard because making fun of Keats Mom's situation never at what I did notice so I'm guessing okay what could he do what's a simpleton the whole neighborhood alison it's like he stuck his hand in a fire and is now squirting lighter fluid on it to put the flames out what does the law but open mockery you know how your your parents have been together for decades and decades and decades right yeah I think I think they celebrating forty fifty years fifty 'cause you're forty five years old do the Google the girl Kyle pops up a ten minute video called me talk about these titles that Henry don't make a mockery dome off the cat I would and I'm not obsessed with the concept of mockery teasing the cat with food or anything I would say did with over here that and be like do not mock the cat if you really in its present and its yeah with with thousands presents short was to anyway legitimately think it's against a lot of make fun of him that's so funny because he had a he had a rule when you were younger don't make fun of the cat but that's that's the one that he saw and it's like Oh you're making fun of dementia and of course you're you're mocking me because I talk about my dad and how oddly he forgiving Your Permission Dad's true yeah I mean you know you gotta take your leadership role well I don't like what you said about me what I will stop Keith right now what I bring a woman over to this is what they act like they are the type of people who are like oh you shouldn't say that and don't say things on record and don't and make sure they don't hear you but then behind the scenes they're fucking sticking hands up your skirt coco now no good little bit a chicken salad at a Chain restaurant and I mentioned how it reminds me of my dad Tom Sending CDs to People Jenny says I don't know how you're dead is able to walk around with those balls of his with me for so long yeah like he because he has the blame it on somebody campy his son so it'll be yes that's true I'll send me himself was what it should be but probably early I okay but what about you being sexual with my ex I didn't podcast it just punched my Pud to it something he's not that clever fair maybe he like he would think he's the environment but he's really just sending letters he forgot that don't do it it was too much that I'm that I'm reading these emails out don't write them these people think they can get away with everything but the no ability politics let's call it let's name it a nice word no I know but you know what I mean like this idea of matters more how you're seeing and how you present yourself can't tell what's real anymore it's every day that you're getting guests how can you tell me what I can and can't say don't do it wit behind everyone's back like we always did make America great again well Joe is writing he didn't want you getting sued for Public Mockery with the cat he was looking at I can't call me do you think that when your dad finally figured this out his mind is just going to shatter and he's going to turn into like the unabomber can't be a man you know so right yeah well the man let me Talk Sal who are we blaming now such vicious cycle is I my ass and made a mockery in front of a bunch of people and I hate to say but I cried left me left the venue I thank you Manipulative tactic right that's where I guess she never heard of laws dealing with liable colony lying false insinuations open mockery talking about trump that we can get him in on it too and he'll be like of course I can talk trump I'm an American I don't I don't want I don't want him to spend my mom's money on which part do not want me to say which part are you not gonNa ever do again so that nobody says that about you double standard that people have were there ask it's a perfect antithesis for people who are like mad at the metoo movement and Shit like that because it's like this is what the people were mad at me out of your mouth and I think catch should suggest legal action like we should go sukey yeah like not put it out there like for sure but just like the Iron Centre God you're so pretty I looked away and down memory that dude there does seem to be like a real consistent thread of he seems to be obsessed with like then how you actually behave which is it's the start of an abusive cycle and not just that it's when I listened to these emails on the Pied Piper you hit on them and so pretty he oh yeah Mr Molly member when you thought I was hot wanted some member that remember when you look cat rape next Geez what was the last one he's last one was where Catt revealed herself to be soaking up some of Mr Meles Yeah I think she should write him back about how great I am I think you should try to thin down your dad do I should try to get them to send something horrible Shit and writing your ecstasy males usually it's I don't know exactly I remember what who Jackie martling like home I'm just like mall I said was you're funny joke about me being lesbian you should be proud of that you said that you're very happy and then I said that you touched my ass it didn't please me hundred. 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Starting 9 Episode #75 - Hall of Fame Edition

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Starting 9 Episode #75 - Hall of Fame Edition

"What back to starring night after sewed seventy five is the hall of fame addition. We got Dallas Brayden who never even sniffed a hall of fame. Ballot. We got the j hey kid who's been waiting for this podcast for weeks days. Hours minutes. I'm in my aching seconds. I'm in my home town hall of fame accounts. Are you? There's got to be a saga all fam- somewhere that I should be in. We'll make a push. We're there for your induction. We're absolutely doing doing what we do best which is live shows were doing a live show from the Saugus high school hall of fame induction ceremony. I for sure wouldn't get in the sagas high school hall of fame. My my tenure at Saugus high ended very poorly ended with like a big fuck you too. I think it was the not the maybe the director. I forget which one it was. But it it ended very poorly. So I can't imagine that I'd ever get recognized there. But if there's a Saugus hall of fame for sure I'm there all day every day to accept that honor. I think we've got to we've got to address the elephant in the room here. You sound a little under the weather. My my little friend or. Yeah. Okay. All right. I've been sick for going on like two weeks now so trying to power through. I like I had like two sick days last week. And I felt better went to winter weekend. And then. End up going to bed at like five AM both nights. And now it's like I was on the pats are covering now. I'm just full-blown sick. And all those babies Booz Booz blow in baseball and kissing babies gross. That's a perfect recipe for what you got going on right now biz blow babies in baseball. That's how you get here. Yeah. It's not a good place to be China rest up. So that I'm good for Atlanta going the Super Bowl, by the way. My my favorite team New England Patriots in the Super Bowl for the third straight year. And if you knew that Dallas. You don't just. I'm just glad I was able to witness the Dallas Cowboys this your crops. That's really all. I have to. Yeah. About, you know, be really funny because I saw a lot of like mock drafts. If if the patriots ended up stealing Cuyler Murray from the as. That's like something that could maybe hap-. I mean, I don't think it's going this. I will promise you this. If that indeed happens, I won't show up to barstool HQ, and I will Egge I will throw eggs at every fucking patriot fan that runs into that office, you pres-. No, I don't give. I don't give a good dot damn eggs are scrambling that office signs of the fucking. Midday could happen. Don't why would you even put that out? I mean, I mean, he's probably going to the giants. I think he'll get drafted much higher than the patriots have a draft pick. But I'm just saying there were some mock draft south they're going to the patriots. And it would be very funny. It's not funny at all. I'm not fucking laughing. I can't imagine that you'd be laughing. If that were were what happened there Dallas? However before we get into all the hall of fame stuff, which is one of our favorite topics to dissect here on starting nine. Two weeks ago at the end of every podcast during the off season. We throw a guess of between now and the next podcast make a prediction of who's gonna sign where two weeks ago. J nailed Bryan dosier. I don't think you got. Did you get the team? No, no. He's with the nationals. Yes. Yes. So he's with the nationals last week. Who? Nick marquess bag frames cakes. I mean, so so raise me Dallas praised me. Hey, you know, what it's a good call. And I think it's just a hats off really to the Atlanta Braves. I think for understanding where they were at who they had in the in the room they were negotiating with as in Marquette and understanding what he had gone through the time. He had spent in Atlanta up into this point, very brief. But he's enjoyed it. And he understands who he is at this point in his career. And if you listen to the quote that he that he threw out there that says I'm getting paid a lot of money to pay to play a little kids game. How could I be mad? That's just now I'm paraphrasing. But that's perspective. Right. That's perspective. That I think a lot of people voice, and they give off. But do they really feel that way? Are they really? Okay with it. So this is kind of cakes put his money or taking his money where his mouth is. If you will look man, I've made the cake of the fucking all-star. Not. I know who I am. I want win. I want to win so good. Call. Good call by you care of us. I feel like I'm not going to get credit for two picks when I really should well who's who's the other pick. I said drew Pomeranz is gonna get shipped off to Japan. And he actually just signed with a team that's about as close as you can get to Japan. That's not bad. It's true. They are they are. I don't know Seattle. Seattle's probably little probably closer. But I mean, really close coast allies, and you know, what? So so obviously what we're starting to play a little pepper here. So we got cakes to the now, let's just let's just put a bow on Nick marquee Martinez to Atlanta, again, I say I like it because I great bit offers them the flexibility again with with what they. Wanted to Alex Coppola's has been has been sort of Okla 'bout saying, hey, you know, this knowing that we needed to get him at this price. Now that we have this opens up the door for opportunity for other other places other fits whether it's somebody in the bullpen, whether it's adding a rotation piece. But it just it gives them the flexibility to talk about you'll haunt Camargo. They're talking about turning this guy into an absolute sense. Right. And and it's of the captors Zo Zo type player, but I think more and more zobrist showed how important it is to create value for yourself and not just pigeonhole yourself in in one spot because if you're just a corner outfielder, well, hey, your road to the show might be littered with pot holes and fucking hurdles and roadblocks, and that's no fun. But now you can go pick it over at third every few days, maybe you can give the second baseman some some lift as well. Now, we're talking. So I think it's a, you know, it's good to see guys starting to round themselves out organizations starting to identify guys that they feel could round themselves out as a ballplayer. Can we talk about that Mark season real quick? Because obviously had Freddie Freeman an MVP candidate. You had a kunia coming up setting the world on fire. Everyone is excited about Ozzy Albee's. But Nick marquess last year played in one hundred and sixty two games are not sixty two he hits ninety seven eight. Oh, six. Yes, he drove in ninety three runs. Fourteen homers, forty three doubles. Yes. Three dulls. He was an all star for the first time in his career is his age thirty four season gold glove defense, silver slugger, top twenty in the MVP when he already had other MVP's on his team. I think when when I think it was at the end of the regular season marquess was kinda talked talked about like his his impending free agency any mention why why would I want to go anywhere else? Yeah. Back it up, and he's he's right back there in Atlanta a team that I mean that. It's it's kind of it's kind of soon to make the prediction because we there are still some big pieces that have yet to fall, right? But the NFL east is more than likely at this point going to be the most competitive division in major league baseball in twenty nineteen one of them. And I end, obviously, we're getting at the fact that Machado or Harper could land somewhere in that in L east, and depending on which team that makes things Vilis again one of them. Exactly. That's I mean, that's the word. Right. That's the that's the thought but just to kind of kind of finish up on cakes with the price one year. Six mil eight thirty five season think about this as well corrobos because while he did while he did make the all star team first time in his career. He had a ridiculous half its slash three twenty three three eighty nine four eight for an oath of eight seventy seven second half season crops. I hope you're sitting down to fifty eight batting average three. Thirty two on base three sixty nine slugging. So that's over one hundred point drop there and then seven oh, one opium almost two hundred point drop in during the second half. So there may be some questions on is this the downhill slide is did he sort of taper off. But I think it's you know, second half or second half of the season. There's a lot of energy going on a lot of push for the postseason. I I don't necessarily put a ton of stock into it. But it is definitely something to pay attention to you manage manage that a little bit better. Obviously he doesn't need to play one sixty two right, right? That's that's kind of what I'm getting at you make the point one sixty two I make the point about the second half slide. You think about ways to procure him anything about ways to keep him fresh? And I really like where they're at him. Yeah. The big news today. AJ paulik. Yeah. To the dodgers was live year deal five year deal. Three to five could be three or got to opt out after three. That would see him, you know, make somewhere in there. What thirty five mil ranger for whatever if he hangs on for that fourth year. It's fifty mill if he cashes out in that fifth year, it's sixty million total dollars for AJ. Pollock. I think ultimately what this tells us is Bryce Harper. Not so much, right? Yeah. To do that was that was bizarre to me that they would flip Kemp and. League. And would and just not have Bryce Harper just ready to go. But what money, but, but but we did the mouth didn't we and it was a matter? It was a matter of them saving total of seven million dollars or something just laughable when you think about all of the move that was thinking about the the totality of the of the move and only saving seven million dollars. But you would assume that yes, this puts them in that position to land one of the if not the most coveted free agents while the most coveted outfield free agent and Bryce Harper. So you go get j Pollock he solidifies that out Bill. The also allows guys like Kika Chris Taylor belly jar man belly. We just had on last week. They allow those guys to spend a little more time around the horn as well. And you've got your everyday right fielder. You've got your do. Right. So we knew that was going to be someone the second that he goes. I was like all right. Well is going to be Harper is going to be Pollock. We didn't know. But I feel like the dodgers wall. Bryce Harper made sense. I feel like they've been way more connected to Pollock than they have been to Harper. So I feel like this just kind of made sense more. But how do you feel about giving a, you know, a five year deal to an outfielder? That's played more than one hundred fifteen games. Once that's the start of twenty fourteen. But you know, what I don't wanna I don't necessarily is it a freak injury broken elbow like this. He was popping up after scoring at home plate put up and his fucking elbow exploded, or whatever. So that's that's freak accident type stuff. If you ask me that stuff that you can't plan for that's nowhere near your radar? You're like, oh, we'll now it's part of it. So I guess you you gotta think. About it. You gotta factor it in. But again, if you're able to with the depth that they have find off days and find those built in off days that I think you're so familiar with drops able to keep guys fresh you're able to keep their legs under them. And I think Pollick is somebody who might be able to benefit from that. As again as starting to move forward. I think teams are going to pitch in to they're not overpaying, and they're not going to be paying for years beyond prime. So the years that they're getting they're going to do everything they can to maximize output within that time period. And I think that is about finding off days. Are you guys? How convinced you guys that AJ Pollock is better than Yossi week defensively. No, just the overall package just all. Window. We talking about just yes, I guess. Four years. I mean, the term the term for which they offer. I guess it's not a clear cut like if I would be if if I'm being honest, I would be hard pressed to differentiate I would think between the numbers if you were to throw me up a side by side. I don't know that it would be that easily discernible what it. I think our AG Pollock just represents maybe more consistency when he's out there. And then you're battling the whole health ways out there thing and Flieg maybe a more nosy more of a streaky guy. Yeah. Well, I I basically just look at it from a ceiling standpoint and you look at Pollock's twenty fifteen season, and it's like is capable of putting together a season like that from this point forward. I don't think he is. And is is Pollock capable of doing something? Like that. If he can stay healthy. Yeah. Yeah. I think he still can't. I I want to I want to lean more towards Pollock here. I I get that the way that their value is is not laid out the same way. Like Pollock may have more value to the dodgers with the way, they want to lay out their team because he's a better defender, whatever it may be but last two seasons Pollock five point five war in nine hundred twenty six plate appearances. Yes. Yup. Week six point four in one thousand fourteen. So I think it's at least interesting it all comes down to health, though, it Pollick. It's just I don't I don't have a reason to believe that he's just gonna start averaging one hundred forty games a year over the next three to four years. No of it's not something. And that isn't something that that necessarily Trinh's upward the later your career. You get no understand though. And he is going into age thirty one. He's so. Sunny, great who reds get Sonny gray, plus three era extension. I I've always admired Brian Cashman. I know that I I get painted as this this Yankee hater, it's just not true. At all. I mean the moment here, I'm writing blogs about how Mariano Rivera should be a unanimous hall of Famer about a Raj should be in the hall of fame. And and this and that I'm not a Yankee hater at all. And I can say that from a far I admire Brian Cashman, and when he just goes out, and I am certain that things probably went on behind closed doors that perhaps created a toxic environment between Sonny gray and the New York Yankees. Because for Brian Cashman to have that that press conference earlier this are at the tail end of last year saying, yeah, no, we're we're. Getting rid of this guy. Like flat out did. It's more belt corrobos. It's more about the Cashman personality. Yeah. And the sunny gray personality, not not meshing. I'm talking oil in water, my friend. Yeah. So I don't know that there was a blow up or an instance, I think it was a an accumulation of maybe a lack of result on the field, and they lack of perceived passion fire problem with the lack of results, maybe from Sonny gray or is this. It was a and you can speak to his character. Obviously a lot better than I can that you know, him personally. Correct. So from an outside perspective, I knew that the sunny gray era in New York was over the second that he walked off the mound to a chorus of boos. And smiles I mean like you just can't do that not not in the Bronx. You can't do that. So then he gets moved to the bullpen from. There doesn't make the postseason roster. And you just knew that the keys are going to move on from the sky, and it it's not it doesn't do any favors as a as a general manager or a baseball executive to say, yeah, we're looking to get rid of this guy, you know, and still still get a return for them. And they did, you know. That's that's why I admire Brian Cashman, because he's real he's honest, and I feel like he doesn't get enough credit because of the, you know, the the financial freedom that he has at the helm of the New York Yankees. But there's a reason why he's lasted as long as he has there is because he's fuck. Fucking good at his job. You gotta you gotta make should happen. And you know, what just real quick for the reds here? Cincy. I would not I would not be angry at the way. This team is is shaping up. I would not be angry at it. I would be looking forward to spring training. I would be looking forward to the season. I would here's a question with with the understanding that I think we can all appreciate a team that is trying to win more ballgames than they won't the season before. Yup. So cincy on that. Do you guys think this team is actually ready for the moves that they are making right now? Like are they ready to be acquiring a a walk Earp league? A walk. Your would a Walker Tanner Roark giving up money and prospect value to do that acquiring sunny gray signing him to three or extension. Like is this maybe this is that median line where they're saying. We're going to we've been walking this line between being competitive and perceive ably going for trying to win and just kind of holding. Water. So with these moves this now, let's are fans. No in this kind of lets us know, hey, we're here to win games because of those moves, and because of the I guess lack of meat on these contractual bones because they are walk your walk your walk your walk. You're like just mentioned Jay. So I think maybe the mindset is let's put all of these guys together who are pulling in the same direction, which very well may be their own individual direction. But if they're all pulling the same way, which is for each other. Then maybe you're going to maybe you're going to click maybe to be something there. The reds are essentially just collecting a bunch of guys who have something to prove. Yes. That's that's the whole point. So like when you think about Peraza at short, and you think about Schadler out. I think maybe those are some of the names. Jay, you're like, you know, with the plea addition who knows what you're getting out of. Kip this time around. But obviously swore as Bado and scooter he of the MVP caliber campaign. I mean, do you have to be excited? But I know where you're coming from J when you think are we like are they really in in a position to compete, and are they prepared to handle what may come? If let's say two of these guys during a lock your don't pan out or things just start to crumble. Yeah. But I think that that's also why they're the easiest pick where we talked about a few weeks ago like which which team that finished last place as the best chance of winning the most games. I mean, I feel like the reds were the faraway easiest picnic. Yeah. Sony. Great, Alex wood. Who else they got Rourke? Right. Tenor orc. Yep. Custodio? I believe. By boy, fucking laziest and the bullpen, and I tell you glaciers throwing the absolute dog piss outta fastballs. That's got injured in the shower. Right. I don't know. I think so. Nice. The the unicorn down there might go Lorenzen the apple jacks. Oh, he's jacked e drops, dick. I'm here for every minute of it mirror. Garrett Garrett is a guy that I think could play a big role for the Cincinnati Reds because he's in that middle relief role. Like could be the swing guy v guard that starter flip guy who knows I'd like to see him breakout. I would love to see a mere Garrett break out. The angels are adding Cody Allen to their home, and they'll get you stopper. I mean is he a stopper? That's that's kinda my question. I mean like, yeah. Like is like I mean that his I'm not gonna. Yeah. That's that's like, I'm not. I'm not about to judge Cody Allen based on his season last year. But his numbers have been trending in the wrong direction for the last two years really shut down. Closer was never something that I would have used to describe him. But dependable. Yeah. You know up until up until really last year that was the first time. Whereas like, you know, Cody Allen comes into save a game not really shaking in my boots. But you know, during that postseason run you you link him with Andrew Miller and Shaw like that was a very good bullpen. But now is going to the angels. Dallas you see this as a good fit. Do do see this as a good fit. The angels need help the gills. Need a veteran presence in that bullpen. They need somebody who can kind of stabilize some things. I think I think new manager Brad ause MRs going to. Is going to have somebody that he can kind of tough because you don't want to think of Cody is being guy that's going to be lanes on an overused per so. But he's he's durable. Yeah. No for sure for sure. So so I think look I talked about ad nauseam Oakland and their ability to work backwards from their bullpen, and what that has done for that club. It gave him the opportunity or it gave him at least a chance to withstand the need to go through that whole opener role and see what that looks like right? As far as the bullpen is concerned for Anaheim day. Just have a lot of guys down there who lack the experience and are trying to find their way, Cody Allen represents a a stable pony. He represents a pillar a piece of foundation. And that's about really all. I think that you can ask for from Cody Allen and the angels at this point. Yeah. And this is your textbook pillow contract as it is a one year deal and this is his age thirty season. And you know, we talked about the der ability. He's he's averaged north of seventy appearances over the last six years straight. All right. Yeah. I can totally see Cody Allen going to Anaheim having a Cody Allen type season that we've been accustomed to see maybe some standout holy shit season. But a Cody Allen type season and then reentering freeze and see year from now getting two or three year deal. I was I wasn't shocked to see a one year deal. But it makes sense. You know, you're coming off a down year, which you referred to as an aberration. I agree with that. See I could see him going on the west coast and then covered back out of this with a two three year deal with us. I mean, that's that's exactly what we're looking for. That's what these relievers are looking for and again this. I think this also represents a more of a little bit of this free shakeup that that we're seeing here 'cause one thing to remember as we sit here and talk about free agencies right now, Bryce Harper. Manny Machado, still no home. Cody Allen Indians all time leader in saves. Yeah. Satisfy him go. Now, I don't really care. I mean, I knew it was obviously was leaving from like probably the start of the season. So the one thing I will say what to look out for with Cody Allen, huge change in his performance against lefties from seventeen to eighteen two thousand seventeen they slashed two hundred to seventy nine to ninety six against him last year. It was two fifty to three fifty five four forty five which is basically like Harold Baines is career slash lines. Every hitter every hit or static. Every hitter was a hall of fame hitter against Cody Alan last year. That's good. I just I can't wait for fucking. Oh, it's. Not haven Stu explode. Is coming and other. We have one Lasca one last note as well. Right. Brad. Brock the cubs. Red rock to the cubs. I mean, the cubs cubs were supposed to be a player for closer where they not. They're supposed to be a player. I had them like when I was going down the list of destinations for kimbrel. I had them as a maybe because of brand Morrow. It's like I remember when that dude was hot shit like ten years. Whatever the fuck it was I wouldn't. Financially. They're strapped, right? The cubs are not. That's what they're telling. They're telling us that. They don't have the money to go out there in in go sign a crate or something like that. But that obviously hasn't prevented them from adding to the bullpen. Brad brock. I guess it's there's high upside here, you know, last year was shit for this guy. But he's not that far removed from being a very very effective reliever. I don't hate this move at all for the cups yet. And I would like I think we're going to see a big year at a carload junior. You think so I think so I think so I think he's done pushing fan. Yeah. Yeah. I I loved his shit. I remember seeing wolves like three years ago, I believe or two years ago when Joel Madden brought him in he brought him in and kind of left him flounder for a little bit. And it was about. And I think I remember Joe talking about you know, I I need him to experience things like that. Because he's going to get the ball the next day, and it's going to be in a cleaning, and he's going to dominate and he's going to grow when that happens and. I think he's had a few of those types of outings where he's been left out there to his own devices and have to figure things out. And I think he could really took a huge step forward this year cups. Yeah. Sure. But I I still don't love that bullpen especially in that division. They they can't fuck with the brewers. They can't fuck with the carnivals really now either. Thicke Crombie that's gonna be that's gonna be a hell of a division to watch too. It is getting thick. Hey. Have you figured out whether or not we are hot air ballooning or what we've got going on yet, Jerry. I mean to be are you going to be physically capable of doing all this Dallas? I am going to resort to experience everything. Well, because it's not just hot air. Ballooning. You've got on the ticks. But we've got a ton of shit crops. We remember we've got breweries to hit. We've got jet skiing. We've got go kart racing. We've got an asks load of Gulf and has slowed and absolute that's an actual metric I haven't golfed since twenty seven. So I'm interested to see how fair that's right. It's called playing Gulf. That's you know, what? I mean. It's fun. You'll hit one good shot. And it'll keep you coming back and the best part is we can use our folks at visit Zona dot com slash spring training to keep coming back for peek sale house angel trumpet ale house, Goldwater brewing company live music arts and crafts, you're know like arts and crafts. Maybe make some beads may make a like a popsicle stick house. Yes. We could do we can make buddy bands. We could do it. All. Would you wear yours? If we if we made buddy bracelets, would you wear yours Epinay, or you kidding me. Where like a buddy bracelet that had like urine. Jay's initials on it up done done done and done. We can do that. And to hell of a lot more when we are in Arizona for spring training and the best it's family friendly. So the starting nine family can find us a nice little Zawra, hang out. Remember these hotels and these resorts they they've got a ton of stuff to do not only for you, not only for me. But for the kids, so you're stuck with love the kids the kids you do. The rocky loves the kids babies out there winter fest for the Saux, water parks horseback. Rides a tell you right now, the zoo, the zoo in Scottsdale, I think this is the zoo is amazing. You could at any point in time. And this is great like during the third inning. Just here. Just the chips going nuts right across the street. It's it's phenomenal. You can actually hit baseballs into the petting zoo area. There's might be a stupid question to they have that penguins. They're no that that's more of an aquarium thing. But I know some zoos have payments. They did not have penguins last time. I went but don't be fooled. Because ping wins aren't just you know, supposed to hang out in the ice. They can you know, they can hang around there. It can do a lot of stuff. Yeah. So this is why I am so excited about being able to get out just retraining this year's because we can do all of this. I'm a big outdoors guy. So Camelback mountain you guys will be going on that hike. We will get to the top Camelback mountain that will allow you to overlook absolutely everything. And I mean everything I mean ten stadiums. Fifteen major league teams seventy five degree weather folks, all within fifty miles of each other fifty five fifteen major league fucking teams, are you serious? So you come and say where I'm at somewhere around timpee. You got yourself six ball clubs within a ten mile radius that you can catch before days in. And that's all brought to you by our folks at visit Arizona dot com slash spring training. So you wanna put this plan in action you want to get the wheels rolling on your spring training bucket list? Family vaca- boys night out whatever the hell girls. Ladies. Did you hear me? Fifteen major league teams all of them littered with big league babies. Get a Minya visit Zona dot com slash spring training. A little birdie actually mentioned something about a live show in Arizona. Yup. And that tweets getting strong that tweet is you? So I think I think things are starting to shape up very nicely every nicely for spring training. And. There's actually when we're gonna be together some business that we need to take care of dials. Ooh. Really? Yeah. I don't know saw you mentioned Red Sox winter weekend. But there is a video that made the rounds of me throwing sixty eight miles an hour. Have to address the off in the room because I am a man of integrity and accountability. Number one. I almost didn't do it. Because I was like I mean AM sick be. I went to bed of five. I just woke up wearing pants didn't warm up and other. It was just a bad situation. But I was like I can't not do it. Because then I'll get called for that too. So I did it because again, a man of integrity you Dell's? Brayden played major league baseball, you could sort of you can weed out the people that played organized baseball at any type of level that meant anything when they think that you can just go up to like a carnival radar gun and just throw your highest philosophy with two pitches. That's just not how it works. So if I'm throwing sixty eight with pitch number two of two. I can give you mid to high seventies. That's all Dave said he wanted from me. He's like you gotta give me mid seventies. I was like I can piss mid seventies. That's not a problem. But all these people that were getting super excited to see me fail. As like, that's not a failure. That's basically going up to a radar gun and just throwing your hardest without warming up after not having thrown a baseball since we played catch in the outfield grass in Oakland, which was in April almost a year ago. It's it's basically just like having sex without direction. It's just you're just not gonna get the best results or any results at all. If you just go up and throat like you're gonna be you're going to be hard up for performance. I think that's yes. But you know, I'm going to tell you I just left Oakland fantasy camp, right? Spent about eight days out there with five folks for the Mariners and Oakland A's organsations, and I got on the bump and thanks to my good friends at pocket radar. Yeah. They've given me a tool that allows me to measure speed blossom pitch philosophy. That's lots of cool stuff for. So I had that I had that radar. Pop. You want to know what my first pitch was out of the gate grow. Was it? Seventy eight miles an hour. They go seventy miles an hour. So is that my best bolt todate book? Probably probably. So maybe I'm the wrong guy to ask that. But no, you can't just wake up and roll out of the rack and fire off your best. Bullet doesn't it doesn't work that way, though. But in your position, I I will say this much what the fans what the fans expect that they're not here to listen to you needing. Toward up. They're not here to listen to the rocket needing a fucking stretch routine. We don't need a rocket activation. Warm-up segment they wanna see the rocket fucking fly. All right. So turn it on and pointed in the right direction and bucking launch rocket. That's that's that's just not how it works. Nobody wanna throw your maximum AUSSIE. You have to warm up. If you want to beat the rocky if you want to be the rocket. You gotta be able to burn bright. Maybe that's the bottom line right after I warm up. So we're going to do that. We're going to do a video where 'cause we are base. It turned into this thing. Like Megan White Sox. Dave, I don't quite understand how he got involved, but he threw ninety one on some kitty gun or something like that. And he had like he did like the crow hop in the running start. He doesn't throw ninety one. So I'm challenging him it, basically, I don't know why it turned into like Heathrow's harder than me type deal. But it was more. Like, I can prove that. I throw hotter than sixty eight. But I can also prove that you do not throw ninety one. So what are we proving here because I'm here to prove at all? I'm I'm the man with the device that was that will bring truth to light here. Right. I am once again as barstools official facilitator fun. I will provide all the tools necessary to put this to bed so proven here that White Sox. Dave does not throw ninety one. And that I throw harder than sixty eight hundred sixty eight done we can prove that now. Now, what are the fans really want? They wanna see a training video where Dallas Brayden introduces Jared corrobos to this thing called a squat rack. Yeah. And that way we can train for this velocity. We can. We can round up corrobos re round up rebuilding the rocket to where. The glory days of two thousand four when he no hit the Rivera all star team. And this is this is just something I'm gonna I'm gonna tease. This little teaser here for the listeners for the grounds crew for all you coaches, or amateur coaches that are dealing with travel ball you've got kids or teams of your own that you're working with as we get towards closer to spring training. Arm care our maintenance arm, strengthening and conditioning. These are all questions that you guys. Have I understand that? I have done the diligence of seeking out some of the most forward thinking and foremost authoritative minds in our field does the name Alan Jaeger reading ring a bell. Go ahead and go and Google that name. I believe it's mic. It's it is not it is a third cousin. Kyle Bodey drive line baseball, Texas will his back there for this. These are these are these are just a few of the names of folks that. That I hold in high regard that I value their opinion. I value the work. They're doing we will have them on. But these guys Jared these guys that can help. All right. You'll up the rocket. Let's go I'm ready listing these individuals, so stay tuned for more from those guys as we move forward. Right. Thrown thrown sixty eight the lowest point in my life. I know that I throw harder than that. So I'm looking forward to my day in court. I will get Justice going to need at least sixty nine. Yeah. We're gonna we're gonna get far above sixty eight and trust me when that happens that video is being plastered free. And now the part of the podcast that you have been waiting for. This is the hall of fame discussion, you know, who got in? Mario Rivera the late. Great, ROY halladay, doc. Edgar martinez. The second greatest of all time, Mike MU sina who should be by the way. We'll save it. But I I I'm going to have a theory here that the Mike Mussina conversation will be the most interesting all these. But let's start with Mariana Rivero. This this fame class to me was a breath of fresh air because it was it was the first one in a long time where we didn't. We weren't talking about steroid bullshit, we work like these guys were just they were legit. We didn't have to be like, oh, this guy did this. And he was in the Mitchell report. And this guy was in Jose could Seko's book. There's none of that. There was none of that. No one got pop for anything. Mario rivera. The greatest reliever of all time the first ever unanimous hall of Famer. Yup. Not right. There is really where this discussion takes off for me. Because we look do we really need to talk about the numbers. I don't think we do we need to talk about the track record. I think we do. I think the fact that we don't need to talk about those things speaks volumes for the body of work with one pitch, which is ultimately what we will all boil it down to is shoved it up the world's asks for dander, twenty years with one pitch that is awesome moving on from that. What does it mean for Mario to be the guy who receives the first ever unanimous vote into the hall of fame? This now sets a bar. And this does what we love about sports. And at the same time hate about sports is it now creates this new class. It creates this new level of membership. This hall of fame because guess what? I played baseball against Mariano Rivera believe it or not. And that is about as close as him, and I will ever get in the same breath or even being mentioned in the same sentence. And justifiably so rightfully so. So so now moving forward we have a class, and we have a bar that has been set. So for all the folks who don't like the fact that writers are applying their opinion on guys and they're off the field antics and opinions or whatnot will this sort of resets the bar or creates this new class for writers to be held to the standard. Where if this guy is this good and the production says so and he has been a hall of fame man of character as well. Here's a way to have knowledge that here is a way to acknowledge that. And unfortunately that happens. When you should just be knowledge in that based on their production alone. That should be a reason why guys should get your vote into the hall of fame. Not because you don't like which side of the aisle, he sits on politically or because of his transgressions off the field in his social life. Whatever it may be. So this now gives writers in my opinion, the opportunity to vault involved those guys into the stratosphere that they do deserve. If in fact, we do come across those individuals. So in my opinion, does dared jeeter get his unanimous vote like so many people are tipping. I say, no, I say it doesn't happen. Because I say there's going to be somebody who still has a beef or whatever. But Mario getting the nod one hundred percent unanimously as a closer as well. That's just it's just poetic for me. It's fucking poetic because it's a position that has been devalued. It is a position at the same. Time that has been heralded and held so close to the vest. That teams are now building their teams from that position backwards. Right. So that's I mean, nothing we didn't expect nothing. We're shocked by in for me shocked where you know. I was I mean, I I was obviously keeping track like obviously, shutout mister Tibbs on Twitter keeping track of all the balloting and pretty much up until the announcement. A little bit north of fifty percent of the ballots had been made public in Rivera was still obviously one hundred percent. But I was like there's going to be one. There's always one, you know. But I guess the big takeaway is that we can stop. Using the narrative that oh, you know, Babe Ruth wasn't a one hundred percent. So no one's going to be one hundred percent. You know, we're we're past that now selling has been one hundred percent. And we also have to remember that. There are multiple stories of writers just forgetting to check a name off or write yet altogether forgetting to turn a fucking ballot in and that is how guys have not hit their one hundred percent Mark where you know, it's been documented well shit if they would they would have been one hundred percent guy. So that's also what I mean by holding a guy or creating a new level of standard for these writers is, hey pay attention makes you know, hanging chats. There are no room for hanging chads and Cooperstown, right? Some Mario Rivera unanimously. Selected as the newest hall of Famer he deserves it. I I saw your tweet that you don't think that we'll ever see another one hundred percent. I I think we will. I don't I really don't because I think there's going to be arguments that people make against trout about you know, how he was one type of player early on and vaulted to a different type of player. I'm not saying that's fair to hold against him. Because the production is other worldly, regardless of whether he's stealing forty bags or stealing ten and hitting forty five holders. I don't care like Mike trout is a guy that I believe could be a hundred percent or no doubt. No doubt. But do I think it'll happen? I don't interesting. I'll meet you back here in like twenty five years, and we'll discuss it. I'll be there. Roy halladay. This was another no brainer. The best pitcher of an entire decade. I mean, obviously, I don't know how much you want to tell you want to spend on this. I thought I thought like the whole thing was weird like Denise publicly that he wanted to wear blue Jay sat now he's not wearing either his wife doesn't want to wear either. And then I saw some call him from like some Philly writer saying that ROY halladay would've wanted to wear Phillies hat because they gave him his first chance of the postseason. It's like duties. I mean, like I understand that he had his is most legendary start with the Phillies, but he'll always be known as a blue. Jay. He should go in as a blue Jay will hit his two most legendary starts as a as a Phillies. Right. Yeah. So so. I. I don't like it like this. Let me totally honest because this is taking away from celebrating the dude, you know, and it's not a ton. I get it that you don't want to play favouritism or whatever the case, I think this is a matter of if I'm if I'm being completely totally honest. This is a matter of our society, and in this day and age trying to please too many people right now, but you know, what if the holiday family truly feels this way which only they know and only they have that idea of what ROY felt and how Mr. Halliday felt about his team's in his membership to these clubs that I'm sure they're making an educated and sound decision because they're the individuals who will be visiting and remembering him and his legacy, and I can understand that they're the ones who have a say in. I guess how that legacy is portrayed. And so if they weren't comfortable with their time in Toronto or. Time in Philly, and they feel like not being tied to one of those is the best way to go about it. Then I think at the end of it all we respect the family and their decision. Be here regardless ROY halladay, a first ballot hall of Famer I disagree with everyone. That's like he's only a first ballot because of his passing. That's just not true. If you if that's how you feel you never watched ROY halladay pitch. You were talking about one of the all-time greatest pitchers a guy that will is probably the last of a breed that. Probably to this day doesn't exist anymore right now. I'm even safe. It's like I mean, this guy was the king of the complete game. I mean, he I think he threw sixty two complete games at twenty of them were shutouts. That's alleged. That's a guy that says give me the ball and the bullpen guys can have your day off. That's that's the type of guy. He was he was a guy that you paste in terms of like, this is the guy. This is the this is the the model here. This is how you succeed in the big leagues. This is getting it done. Like there's there's pitching in the big leagues. And then there's getting it done, and that was ROY halladay to to a fucking t to three or four different times over two hundred thirty five hundred forty innings. That's insanity man that pets against them. Yeah. You did. Well, a badge loose. If I remember correctly. I believe I lost through a complete game loss. Did you to hell it interro? Oh, we'll have to get that box score. That's pretty fucking cool to throw a complete game against ROY halladay. That's pretty fucked. Cool. Yeah. Don't don't don't don't quote me on that. I'm thinking right now. Yeah. Don't quote me on that everyone stand back. I'm using my brain police department holiday in the election to the hall of fame first year. Again, I'm the I'm the I'm the romantic on this podcast when it comes to to the wise about our game that maybe the numbers don't match up with you think about being sent down to the minor leagues at the stage in his career that he was sent down to the minor leagues able to resurrect himself. Look really figure it out here or figure out which insurance company, you wanna go work for that was pretty much. The message being sent to this dude. So thing about going to that place in your athletic career in your mentality. Your head space and being able to put it all together sharpen all of that. And come back out of it. And on the other side at the end of it all H O F on your fucking plaque in the hall of fame. And you. Kidding me? That right. There is the testament to the will the desire to be great. Agree cassette. It better myself. Edgar martinez. Finally, this pissed me off that it took this long ten fucking years. The voters made Edgar wait for enshrinement and Cooperstown he should have been in a long time ago. They named the fucking award for the greatest in the league after him. And then they made him wait the maximum amount of years to get into the hall of fame. I mean, the D H has been a position for almost fifty years. That's just connect. That's the disconnect between the voting process, and the individuals who are tasked with voting for these people and the entity that is baseball that is a prime example of the massive disconnect between the two because the hall of fame as we know it is just a group of people put together based on in a pinion of a group of people at this point in time. Production has seemingly taken a backseat based on opinions of individuals. And that's what people are fighting about is if you're gonna make an opinion based process, I am all about the opinions of the people that they competed against if you me if you want me to sit back and just accept the opinion of people who have made it their career to write about what they've seen. I can't do that. I can't do that. I'm not taking anything away from a guy like you, Jerod, a writer who follows I'm not taking anything away from you. I'm simply telling you, are you taking my opinion based on some of the greatest literary works to ever grace, the libraries in the nation. I'm gonna tell you right now. If you think players ex players would do a better job voting for the hall of fame than baseball. Why you are outside of your mind did not say they would do a better job. I didn't say anything remotely close to that. I said if I'm going to be taking the opinion of a group of people to give me a list or a group of people who were the best at this game. I'm not inclined to take the opinion of people who just watched this game. I value the opinion of people who played the game in that respect on a higher level under those circumstances. Like, I just asked you do you want my opinion on who the greatest impactful literary artists are of our generation or do you want? I don't know smoke. Steve Spar who the fuck, and I don't know the doodoo wrote the notebook you want by angelou's word on that. You've got rest or soul, you're probably taking those people's opinions over mine why because they're in the. Shit. If you will. You guys want an Edgar Martinez. No get. Yes. Please. He has eight seasons where he slash three hundred four hundred five hundred. Ooh, the only the only right handed hitters in baseball history. With more such seasons pool halls pools is one of them Hank Greenberg. Hank Greenberg is not one of them. Jimmie Foxx Jimmie Foxx is the all time leader for righties with eleven such seasons. Yeah. That Rogers Hornsby Manny Ramirez in Harry Heilmann as we all remember the great run that he put together from nineteen twenty one to nineteen thirty. Good ole hairy. Fucking smokers fight way. There was absolutely no drama and Edgar Martinez is induction in his final year. Once once old herald got in. He'll what time out can we address the guy reading off the names old? I have to address that I have to send. I'm sorry. Go home. Hey, hey, don't ever do that. Again, don't ever do that again effort don't ever have have Siri do that. How fucking hate Google do that how the Amazon voice box to have your fucking mailman do that you don't ever do that. Again. Don't EV this is a this is coming from your family. I don't even know them. They text me told me tiller dad don't ever do that. Again, don't ever do that. Again, don't ever do that again give that job to somebody else. Please fucking please. Please. That's all part of it rubs you the wrong way. Dallas not the effort because the effort was clearly there. Maybe it's just the idea that hey, you know, what your effort is it going to do this Justice? And that's probably not going to. That's probably not gonna look as good as maybe just not doing it. Or maybe having somebody who can speak and read the language to it. It's fair. That's fair. It is not too much to ask for two great group of people in the baseball hall of fame. They had a great group of people at it'll be network. I know I just know there was there was a better option. I just know. Mike. Ever. Shoutout to moose. I saw him pitch for the Orioles in two thousand as my first trip to Ken in yards. Saw him pitch against the Yankees who he later joined but might be seen it. I found this to be interesting because you know, the this is the whole like is it the the hall of fame or does it just the hall of very good is that what it's become and when I look at Mike Messina's numbers, or when I think back to Mike museum his career watching him pitch. Did I ever feel like I was watching a dominant hall of fame pitcher? No, no, I did not. But then you kinda dig deeper on these numbers that he accumulated over his career. And it's like the only pitcher that had more strikeouts in a higher career war. That wasn't in the hall of fame was Raj. Columbus. So it's like the body of work is there he is a hall of Famer does not have a Cy Young to his his name. But I think he had like six or seven top- sub six finishes or something like that. And then the whole idea of never being dominant. You look at the the hall of fame ballot from this past year and the only two players that had a higher career wins above replacement again, Barry Bonds and Roger club. It's so Mike you see one of those. I guess maybe it's too strong to say under appreciated because I feel like it was very much appreciated, but in terms of a hall of fame sense. He's for sure. All and again, the romantic aspect of this is where did he spent his career he spent his entire career at least beast of the men so in two hitters ballparks? That's that's a tough tough place to make a living and to perform on that scale. And this is this is not a matter of hall of very good. This guy is a fucking hall of Famer. Yes, I don't I mean because what what gay is the knock. I do. I guess I don't understand. I think it's I guess it's the if anybody's going to say anything like it's the lack of quote, unquote, like. Super ace level peak that I guess a lot of people try to associate the hall of fame with the reality is that not every pitcher in the hall of fame as Randy Johnson. Pedro Martinez peak. That's just not how the hall of fame works, and it's not how it's ever worked. And is this. Okay. Like is it okay? That might be seen it didn't win asylum. I think it absolutely is. Hurt. Chilling was typically better than Mike. You never wanna say young. Curt Schilling should be the fucking hall fan. I don't think you need a Cy Young to get in the hall of fame. And so that is part of my argument here, I guess is. That's why ask where's the knock? Like what is the knock like if that is the one like like like like mad dog? What's his what's his argument about guys? Did he would it be? The best plan bucket or. Did that? So okay. The the problem with that though is that it's it's a group of people using their own past decisions and value judgments to inform their future decisions in value, judgments because while it might not be the exact same human beings voting. It's the BWIA voting for those MVP's and those Yong's, and it's those that same block of voters turning around and voting for the hall of fame. So if they're making mistakes in the late nineteen eighty s or the early nineteen nineties about voter about a player, and then he comes up for election. It doesn't make any sense them. Then you would use those same Cy Young MVP votes. As a reason to hold him back. Like, I like that stuff. It's all shiny. It's cool. I would love an MVP. It's it certainly enhances the case. But we're now we're now twenty years removed or twenty five years removed for from win that voting took place we can do better than looking at that. Sure. It is true. Yeah. They were when they were voting on Syon wards in in MVP's twenty five years ago. They're say, well how many wins? Did he have right? How many roads did he drive, but listen, those are the differences that is what was being valued at the time. Because that is how the game was being played. So you like what does the win loss mean today for a starting pitcher virtually nothing, right? Like, you were just fishing. I think he's got what the six best winning percentage of all or since one thousand nine hundred. But my point is back in the day. Like, let's take it back to to to Jack Morris his days, the reason he was pushed in by his peers is because they understood what he was doing at that time, and they understood there just wasn't anybody else in the game really doing that kinda shit. It was absolutely nobody logging that many league average innings. There's no doubt. So it's it's an understanding of the game being valued differently than and the way it was being played in the way it's being valued and played now. So so you ask me a question. What's the knock, right? This is the best stat or a pair of stats that I can come up with to illustrate why there's a gap in appreciation for my CENA. Seena among all the pitchers to throw at least three thousand innings since the game was integrated obey. He ranks forty eighth in any RA. Okay. This is this is a group of sixty five pitchers. Okay. Ranks forty eight obviously three thousand innings is a very high bar. Okay. Forty eighth in a Justice Oray Yara. Plus he ranks twelve oh. So that speaks to the AL east that speaks to the offense of environment that he was pitching in. And that's why ERA his career RA of like three six all that doesn't jump off the page. But you know, what, you know, the only pitchers who are better on this list in adjusted ERA Clemens unit Whitey Ford. Maddox schilling Seaver Bob Gibson, Kevin Brown. Jim Palmer Smoltz and mayor show suicide schilling and Kevin Brown. We're those guys hanging out every fucking day faint, baby. And some of them in the inner circle xactly. Big deal. The deal moose hall of Famer next question. No, yeah. No, it's indisputable. So this is this is gonna this is gonna be a great class. Because a we've gotten rid of the whole one hundred percent thing. That's no longer anything that you can hold over someone who worthy enough of being one hundred percent shadow Ken Griffey junior with most recent exempt. So before we go any further who is your next one hundred percent. I'm not gonna say that. I agree. Hello echo. All right. Yeah. I'm not gonna say that I agree with it. But I can I can see jeeter getting one hundred percent now J what say you. I mean, I think I think jeeter is the only person to have recently retired. And we know that he's on the ballot or will be on the ballot to have a chance. Otherwise like, I'm looking at. Like my Mike trout. If it's not Jeter, it's going to be a while. No. It's if it's telling right now, I'm just going to say it's not going to be there Tudor. It is not going dirtier tries speak it into existence. One last thing before we move on from the guys who got in a speaking to the you know, there's been a lot of angst about the number of people on the ballot and stuff like that credit were credit to do the BB WAFA's doing a much better job of clearing the deck lately from nineteen ninety two until two thousand and thirteen. So I guess that's twenty two voting cycles. Twenty two years of voting they elected thirty one people total most years, it was one to zero guys for over two decades stretch, you wanna know how many they've elected in just the last six years alone. Twenty. Three four two three four and four. There have been five instances in the history of the BB W A voting where they have elected four players in a hall of fame class three of them have happened in the last five years, and there's never been a five class. Correct. I believe that's true. Okay. Because I felt like unless it was the first one. Yeah. That sounds right. Just about a bunch of guys guys got a hard on. Yeah. I one was five. Gotcha. The inaugural Babe Ruth class Cobb. Walter johnson. Matthew, Sint Honus Wagner, Babe Ruth? I think. This this past class was the one that I thought had the best chance to be five because schilling 'cause like if you're gonna put him you've seen a you have to put in Chile. So I think that's going to be the class next year geeder, and schilling which will be quite last that. Tell you what's going on with the hall of fame. Jerry is a bunch of guys guys that for one reason or another have a hard on for the games greats. And. You know, how you know how we can help. 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It's the hall of fame, and it's almost becomes every single year to didn't get in. And this has got a thing for over a decade. Now, I think when was. Yeah. Well, like around like, oh seven is when Clemens retired. And it's like all right. Well after bonds retires in Clemens retires seven. Now, we start talking five years or tired that. Now, they're on the ballot. And we've been debating whether or not we're gonna see guys like this actually get into the hall of fame for over a decade. Well, the the names who did not get in. But at least were somewhere in the region of potentially getting it at some point, Curt Schilling sixty point nine percent of the vote in his sixth year. Big joke for him big joke focal Kurt I think that next year is going to be the year. I think there's only one person in the history. I think they're only might be one person in history to get to sixty percent. And then not get it. So Kurtz, getting in whether or not it's next year or the year after I hope it's the next year. Because now that'd be seen as in Kurt's. Gotta be say that I'm gonna quickly your. If you say that crew Chilean sitting precisely sixty point nine percent round up that sixty are and union biological father, some say Roger Clinton's sit at fifty nine point five round up that takes us to sixty percent as well. So if the words you just said have any merit to them that means Kurt and old Padre rocket are both going into the fucking hall of fame would start with Kurt. I think it's pretty simple you need to check your opinion of the man outside of the baseball world at the door and pay all to what him in that bloody fucking sock did throughout his career. All right respect, it pay Amish to it. I'm not asking you to invite him to your bar mitzvah. I'm not asking for you to invite him to your birthday party. That's not what we're here for. We're here to respect and honor. What he did on the baseball field. So from there. Move right to Roger at bury one Barry Lamar Bonk's. And I don't like what kind of compensation. Do you want to have about those two dudes? I think the only one is one that you, and I like to have frequently the numbers that don't match fifty nine point five percent. Yeah. Voted for Roger Clemens. Barry Bonds has received fifty nine point one percent now. Yeah. That doesn't make any sense doesn't make any sits. We would love to know who you are. And that takes us to the point that a lot of these folks have made or man Jeff passan who has been vocal about saying it till these ballots really become public that's bad dated that they're public. He has backed out of this process. And I have I've talked about how I tried on this podcast to applaud him to make a change from within. Because that's how change can occur is by somebody within that world. Putting their foot down taking a stance starting conversation. Well, he has he has chosen not to and I respect that. Holy. But until Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds are a acknowledged for what they did on the baseball field and be somebody can answer. Why one is less or more of an offender than the other? I just can't entertain the conversation of them not being in the hall of fame. Right. Yeah. Actually Tyler on mix tape shutout mix tape Tyler said that it's just the most blatant case of racism of all time. It's without without pointing that out. I would just ask you what is the difference between Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds for one of those guys to receive one more or one less vote than the other individual if it's based purely on production, and or your opinion of their character that yeah, that's the thing is like, maybe maybe it's because like Barry didn't have the greatest relationship with the media. But Roger throughs wife onto the bus next question. Yeah. Yes. So there's really no excuse to why they're not dead even voting percentage. Is there a package deal? They are for sure a package deal. Do you think? Do you think that the voters are going to make them sweat it out until you're ten right now that was their seventh year on the ballot. They've got three more cracks at this thing. Do you think that the voters are going to be like, you know, what like you guys are hall famous, but you don't deserve to get into till you absolutely have to get in. Or do you think that there's a chance that they're just not gonna put it either his chance that they don't put him in? And that the writers say, you know, what if you think and this is a back to Jay Hayes point, they're going to say. If you players think you've got it. Right. And if you players think you're going to do a much better job than us at this thing will then why don't we just leave it up to you players? And we'll let your veterans committee decide the fate of your superstars and then the game will have been held responsible for dictating the future and the potential immortality of these individuals. So if I was part of the BWIA, Maya whole position would be okay. Here you go veterans committee make your bed and laying it because my opinion doesn't matter at this point if I voted in or if I don't I'm still the asshole. So let's let the veterans committee be the naysayers or let's let them be the gatekeepers and be the ones who opened up for. But at the end of it, it's going to be baseball. And the baseball veterans committee in the baseball players, in my opinion that have a say in whether or not these two men become immortalized. Yeah. I was actually surprised at how far they fell because. Well. Well, they each of them gained roughly two to three percent from last year, which is not a big jump whatsoever. But when they settled around like fifty nine percent, those first fifty six ballots that were public or whatever from not Bisser Tibbs. They were around seventy five percent. So it's like that second half was just like note, not doing it. Because I thought I thought for sure that they weren't getting in with this class. But I thought that they would have cracked sixty five percent at least, right? So 'cause now I was like, oh if they don't get in this year. They'll definitely get it next year. Now, I'm not so sure they're getting next year. But they are right around. Curt Schilling is and I can't see the baseball writers just having a hall of fame class of just Archie. No that's going to be I disagree. I think just jeeter is the most likely scenario, and I would say the second most likely canary does that Larry Walker hops over all three of the guys were just talking about. Well, and that's why you walk your gets in makes that big of a Joep does the bias take a back seat. Do we put Coors field? I think it's more likely that people coalesce around the idea of let's push for Larry. And he gets the twenty percent or eighteen percent, or whatever it is. He needs venit is that she'll gets fifteen. I definitely believe that it as much as I am. Okay. With that. I'm only okay with it because it's a loud. Do I like the idea of people voting for Larry Walker in mass because Burian Rogers still have some time left and Larry does not that. It has always felt like asking for an apology jeered. If I slap you across the face, and then refuse to apologize, and you stomp your feet and ball of your fist and forced me to apologize to you before we can be friends again. Did you really want that apology doesn't really mean what you want it to mean to you? Absolutely not. So that's how. And this is why I don't like it because we're now taking Larry Walker's ridiculous career. And were were downplaying it. We're putting holes in it. And we're talking about him getting favoritism type votes because other individuals that are on the ballot people just don't like who they are. That's fucking terrible. That is brutal. That is the definition of a flawed system. I can't believe that curt schilling's gotta fucking wait another year. The fact that he's had to wait going on now seven years with the resume that he has is fucking ridiculous like say, whatever you want about his tweets about his politics, whatever the man is a hall of Famer look at the numbers. It's like he should have been if John Smoltz is a first ballot hall of favor Kurt showing a first ballot all Famer it is fucking insane. That he's still has out there going on seventh year. It's it's it's not good. It's not good. But like I said, I think I think the veterans committee is going to play a massive role in in shaping up how this hall of fame looks, and I think it's going to be over these next few years. Omar vizquel. Do you think he ever gets there J? No. And then everyone else is just you know, they're not getting in front McGriff. I think for a grip should be a hall of Famer. But he's I think he'll be veterans committee. No doubt, no doubt. Like, if there could be a unanimous veterans committee vote or I don't know if that's even thing. Crime dog gets that guaranteed crime dog in veterans committee. Thanks for coming. Because that's what you hear from all these guys is he just hit third or fourth in everybody's lineup for twenty five years. You've heard the comparisons in the comps to him and barrier between him and Barry Bonds at the onset of their careers. He out slugged Barry Bonds, folks. Yep. So and then Todd Helton. He again of of the hollowed course field. It's just no it's it's a hang with them sixty percent. It's fantastic numbers. Thank you chorus field for the numbers. And now the moment that you've all been waiting for. Hey has to address the hall of fame enshrinement of a one Harold Baines. Let me tell you a story. And you guys you listeners decide if this sounds like a hall of Famer, or if it sounds like a guy who you could go and see and forget for the rest of your life that you saw him that day. Okay. This man debuted at five point three percent on the ballot. He was fractions away from falling off before he ever had a chance to be voted in on his first, right? He never topped six point one percent of the BB WALE six you need seventy five to get in. He never topped six point one percent, okay. For his career. We're talking about a man who had two top ten MVP finishes. Only twice. Did these people who just put him into the hall of fame ever find that he even sniffed the MVP conversation? He never finished higher than ninth. So in those years where he was a top ten guy. He was as close to not being a top ten guy as you can basically be ninth never higher. He led the league in slugging. When you go into baseball reference, and you can see all the black marks or the italics where it's like, whoa. He. Has one. He led the league in slugging percentage. One time that was in nineteen Eighty-four Jared, and I were not born yet guy as good of a right? So Ben Lindberg of the ringer had a great article where he went deep on the numbers summit to lift a few of those here. He basically if you look at positional of value. He's as good of a rightfielder as raids are was a second baseman. Okay. So Ray Durham as as as relevant of a hall of fame candidate as Harold Baines. We all remember raid. They're great career. I'll just read this verbatim to include all players with statistical cases as strong as Baynes. The hall would be four times less discerning than it has been today. All of those dumpy players that have gotten in from the twenties, thirties and forties. We would basically need to let four times as many people in to let Harold Baines be the new standard. On that same deep dive. He is the least deserving hall of fame person to get into the hall of fame since nineteen seventy six a guy named Freddie Lindstrom who doesn't really matter. How you look at it is universally considered one of the worst hall of famers of all time. Okay. He did not win a World Series. There's no extra points being assigned. Here. Didn't win a World Series. Okay. To speak on the veterans committee or the new era committee or whatever name it's going by these days statistically of the twenty five worst hall of famers, according to positional standards, twenty two of them have been elected by these committees. Okay. So for as poor as the BB W A does on occasion and an individual instances it lapse these veterans committees, which just constantly dragged down the standard all fame and did so again with Harold Baines. Now, a few war related statistics for all of our friends out there. Okay. His best season by war. Cording to baseball reference was four point three or point three Mike trout gets there by may. Okay. Nelson. Cruz has three seasons better than Harold Baines is best season. Wonder if Nelson Cruz falls off the ballot on its first Dr Betty does. There have been thirty eight players to accumulate eleven thousand career plate appearances. Okay. Bains has the lowest wins above replacement of that group though lowest. Okay, he's now a hall of Famer of all position player seasons since Baynes debuted in nineteen eighty that best season that I was talking about that four point three war season that ranks one thousand four hundred and second. The best. He had to offer you have to scroll age after page after page on baseball reference to find it. My computer almost froze out. Because the search took so long. That's Harold Baines for you. That's your new hall of Famer we could go on and on. Jed he's fucking incinerated Mike out now that we've gotten to the final point on note that barely he's a great guy. I don't care because it's elections like this that just slowly sap the interest in the hall of fame because it's so comically ridiculous and divorced from reality. Nobody ever thought he was all fame player because he's friends with LaRussa and Reinsdorf own the team that he played for and Gillick drafted him and develop them is now in the hall of fame. Great thanks, so it'd be half of starting night. Congratulations. Harold baines? A love for. His hall of fame case is extremely complicated and confusing, but not as complicated confusing. Is finding tickets online to sports or concerts, you we can eliminate all of that though with seek because seek is the smartest. Easiest way to get tickets to every type of live of it. Whether you're catching your favorite musician on tour shopping for the perfect gift or searching for a last minute deal to see your favorite team. 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Let's fucking lewd and. All right. We will run through these quickly. So we sort already touched on this. First question was going to be about pitching with White Sox? Dave, we can we can move right pie that given the Miller park news. What are some of the worst or best ballpark? Name changes in baseball history. That's from NASCAR and trucks. I mean, guaranteed rate field is the worst of all time like in any sport, the g spot on come on. I had to deal with overstock dot com. Coliseum like like the street signs to the place. Just got knocked down to oh dot co. They like the city of just gave up we're not. We're not. We're not writing that out. Sorry. It's not happening. You know, what I would you know, what I'd be interested in this would be a complicated study that probably isn't worth anybody's time. But like de number of years after a name change before before the majority of the local population starts referring to it by that name rather than the previous name. Yeah. That's because the giants ballpark debt you'd as packbell I still referred to it as packbell from time to time who it's AT and T park. I believe or some other now it's gonna be oracle no chance, by the way, the oracle pretty sick name for a stadium. I've decided yeah. The oracle. Yeah. It's like, I mean, you know. Yeah. I think that's going to end up being a much better pick than AT and T park. The Miller park. News is tough. We'll see how if they bounced back who was the most surprising player all time to fall off the ballot after their first year on it. Follow up favorite player growing up that you thought was for shore a hall of Famer, but never actually came close. Who is there is there is a a big. I don't wanna see a big snub Fargo air fall off after year. No he was on for longer than that. So there is someone that there's some kinda recently wait Santana fall off after a year. I believe he did actually if he fell off after a year which were. Where did I with all due respect to to ROY halladay? Yeah. Where identical? I mean, like if if or two point four percent last year, and he fell off that's insane. I mean, Santana may not have had the long jetty that ROY halladay had. But his peak was just as good as holidays. I mean, all I'm gonna start backwards all sort of the in little stealth because you get up to romantic, you're so pucker up grounds crew. Will the thrill will the thrill Clark was a guy thought was like fuck kidneys. But he's not already hall of fame plan baseball. Yeah. We'll good. That's a good answer. Because I think I think it will Clark's peak. There was a there was a sentiment that like this guy is absolutely getting there. Like, what want their people who actually thought that will Clark was better than Barry Bonds at a point? Yes, there was there were so dude, I can't tell you how many people it was a very tired and tough to defend argument have arguments, but it was being had in the bay area. And it was being had a northern California like who's your and like if I'm if I'm being honest, a lot of racial undertones conversation as well. But I mean, let's be real berry was my guy. Mary's my vogue, and do I I've talked highly about we'll Clark him being the, you know, the the first bat that I ever purchased the baseball than ever got my grandma bought me a bat with will fucking Clark on it. So I was try-. Swing. That thing. All the way up to Texas Tech their day. We get berry balls on this fucking podcast, my answers. Kenny lofton. For the first question. The guy who fell off he fell off after one year can not to beat a dead or but I do it. So well, Kenny Lofton had seven seasons better than the best season of Harold dance. Kenny Lofton had like a career's worth of seasons better than heralds best Kenny Lofton, he's never going to get there. And I'm not even sure how passionately I would argue for it a much better hall of fame candidate than one in done would suggest. Much better sixty eight career war. So I think I think one and done is probably what about do you think? Can you think it's in on the veterans committee now, I mean who knows it's the wild west? What about Miguel Tejada or the big Puma talk now? Oh, no. I think he's the better answer for the guy who you thought might have been a hall of Famer while you were watching him never came close. I think no Mars another example of that. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. Is peak was like, I mean, I'll say this. It doesn't Joe DiMaggio. Yeah. It doesn't get a lot better than no Mars peak in terms of guys who never ever came close to all fame like Nomar in in two thousand and two ninety nine and two thousand those years back to back. He slashed three sixty five four twenty six six. Oh one. Yeah. And he never even sniff the hall of fame. That's a good answer. Moving right along the light of kid left this podcast final. Start a go fund me from. Final question, and I'll take this. If you guys don't want in your opinion, become the hall of very good. What are your thoughts? Jay. I I the temperature on this with you yet if you. Well, yes. And no, yes. It has become the hall of very good because people will like our friend mentioned before have gotten in. But also, no because our current era of baseball has been criminally under represented in the hall of fame prior to like the last couple of years where they've started to get it. Right. Like this broadly. No, the standards are not being lowered. There have been individual instances Morrison where bands why why there? Where they have lowered it individually, but on the whole, no thank you for your question. Hey, one last guy the first final thoughts. Sure. Do. Rest in peace. Jim mckean? Yes. Thank you the buyer. You get the unpire former empire news of his death came Thursday morning morning. I'm sorry. Wednesday morning Thursday morning. Whatever date. I I've lost track at this point. But I actually not that I do him well or anything, but I had the pleasure of brief interactions with him. While he worked part time for baseball tonight and appeared on some of the shows that we did and was an extremely kind accommodating person who, you know, for these small amount of time that I got to spend with him. I was better off for love that thank you very much that is respected and appreciated from the baseball world. Very nice of you. I'm getting ready to blow your doors off boys. Just like, I told you just like, I told you. Dell's kaikal goes back to Houston and Bryce Harper signs back with the nets this fucking agencies. How bullshit that's what's going to happen? That's that's that's basically how this is shaping up and Manny Machado market down is taking whoever hands him the most money. I don't know what team that is. And frankly at this point, I could give a shit. I'm just going to tell you. It's going to be whoever offers him the most cheese. That's. That's it. That's it. I had two month ago that that the Machado to New York was just a matter of figuring out opt outs and moving money around within the contract. And I don't I don't think that's the case. I don't think that's the case. So he's going to the highest bidder. The guys. Yeah. Kaikal back to Houston because let's be real. They're just not looking to pass up on what I think he offers them. They said you buy Charlie Morton, that's fine. They're not going to take about a Dallas Paykel and Bryce Harper. This was all just a matter of posturing on behalf of Boris to drive the market and he's going to land safely back to where he's been. I'm gonna make my free agent. Prediction. Hot right now. I got mar- when Gonzales signing before the next podcast where saying San Diego city ego dollars Sadia, kgo San Diego. Damn I. I don't know like Toronto. Feasible. It's feasible because. Oh god. I'm trying to think of the guy not not Bettencourt. He's he's he's he was Toronto's utility guy shit. Why? Oh. Solarte's is a free agency. Right. So a free agent. Yeah. So I mean that would be an upgrade for Toronto to go back to go out and get more win having parted ways with a young heart of the seller tape. I'm doubling down. I'm going back to the well, I think I was a week early. I'm going Wade Miley to the brewers Wade Miley to the brewers I'm sticking with that not very creative. But you know, sometimes it's best not to reach. All right. We'll hit that that we will see. Dallas has Dallas kaikal. Back to the Astros. I like that go bigger, go home Betty. Yeah. I mean, the Phillies the Philly's kinda they're just waiting around on someone. I feel like if I don't they're going to end up with one of the other. I feel like, but what are they missing out on? In the meantime, is say that once one of those dominoes falls. They all fall within the next ten days. Yeah. Yeah. You think about leaders signed somewhere before pitchers and catchers report cares? Right. So. It'd be half of J Dallas myself we once again want to say, congratulations to Harold Baines, the hall of fame. We'll see extra week. Wow.

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Full on whatever time till whenever they get out like two or three when they get out of school but his half days on wednesdays so i thought how fun for my kids to go see the gods zillow movie in our home like you know. I have my man cave. I thought right my oldest son. Jake came home. He had to work on a project for school marketing projects so he was going to a friend's house. My middle son camp wanted to watch basketball highlights in his room and then my youngest son camp dutch. I was like what my wife. And i i we we college everybody and it's a. Hey let's do watch his movie in duchess like Yeah i'm going to the cedar with my friends to see god zillow being so old school. Yeah right so he would do it here at home. i mean. that's a movie to watch theaters. So kyle you watched it. Yeah well all those are talking about it yesterday. So i felt like if i didn't watch like left out of the conversation i had zero interest in like seeing the movie at all but there were times where i thought it was a little long and maybe didn't really understand but i thought it was actually really good. Yeah it was. It was very entertaining. Is that you watch it now. Anyway yesterday. I know we're supposed to stay up late. But we have some unexpected visit My husband's Parents came over and they never visit us during the week when they text us that they were an hour away. We're like what we by the way we were like one week. We're like why. And they were dropping off like a couch to a cousin of bins and my looking around the house. And i see all this dir on the fans and on the walls and we immediately get up and start cleaning but we didn't. We didn't have a chance. i love them. They're great and they brought dinner. So i was so happy to make dinner to the window to dirt on the fan on the wall. You can clean. I should have made a party to that but yeah it was Watch the with you know they. They wouldn't have stayed for that movie. Richie watch godzilla. Heck yeah i watched godzilla so the second. My boys hit my door from after school. We went down in the basement and turned on the tv. Because you can make it super dark down there. And i have gone through like all my insane stereo stuff so like the very first second when the trailer comes on your king kong heartbeat. It shakes the whole house so my daughter comes running downstairs. What's wrong i'm like. Oh no we're watching godzilla. It was awesome from the beginning. My boys had a perfectly in the whole time. I kept on looking over and were shouting at the like you know. Go go where we were so into it. I thought it was great stupid plot but great fun. All i know is the little girl in. The movie is so cute like so adorable so lovable. I'm like i just want you to like be my daughter to so cute. I did watch it. I tried to. I got about twenty five thirty minutes in and and i just. There's so much going on in my house that couldn't couldn't but dutch my son he wanted to ice it. So how was it to go watch the movies. He said it's really good until the end of the end is really stupid is what he said. Yeah i haven't finished it. i know i have. I think like twenty minutes left. He said the end is really stupid. And i was like oh man coming from a fourteen year old which i believe is probably their target demographic. Bummer tell you i go. Yeah and he started coming to make Man awesome silly where. I'm rooting for kong. Because i think he's so sweet. And i just don't know how there's any way on the planet ever that he would be able to be cut silla. There's a disabled so these no way that makes me just watch. Hey hey payton commit. Can you come here. I want you guys to witness something happening on our show grant. Can you come over here. I peyton witness incredible friendship in connection form here on our radio show right now okay peyton. What documentary are you very excited about and why. I'm excited about the jeffrey dahmer. Netflix documentary coming out soon. Correct you are two. Yes okay now. Why are you excited. I'm super excited because my sophomore year of college. I had this professor. I'm a criminal justice major and he worked on the jeffrey dahmer case. And i got to write like a ten page paper on. Like actually looking at the jeffrey dahmer files he had taken from the entire case. Wow that's awesome jeffrey. Dahmer step in. I don't know how to how to elevate very very i mean. Page paper like a ten page doublespace twenty pages can we actually probably do have it. I could probably find it when it comes out. We should post it. Then you can be if if you put it on the website. Then you could be published. Jeffrey dahmer Experts in yeah. She could go. You can go testify. Anything in the documentary. That will surprise you. Then like if you've already dug that deep. I wonder if you're watching the documentary and you're gonna do that. Yeah no and there are some like pretty like there's some stuff that you guys don't know like the average person doesn't know i just got chills. Serial killers. he's the one eight people right. Jeffrey dahmer and he had heads in is free. Hey he was a good neighbor. Guys all always neighbors were like what. What did he do. What what's going on with jeffrey. Idle grits very warped world. I mean look at the jacket. he's wearing. Why are you wearing that jacket. Because it's cool. It's a members only jagged. Ejei also happens to be nightstalkers jagged. You have issues podcasts. They'd afterwards podcasts. Way to she dropped some other stuff on the podcast totally unrelated other serial killer just when you graduate. May as school wonder pacific university. Will you tell maybe in the podcast in when we do our podcast today. Can you tell us the things that maybe nobody knows about in the jeffrey dahmer suffers that really private. I could probably pull some stuff. I could probably just tell us you don't know. Yeah that's what i'm saying. I could pull it out my back pocket. We can totally talk to the professors teachers class about it. That would assume that means you can talk about says. You guys can't talk about the what the assignment was was like. Each of us guy assigned a different serial killer and he really liked me. And i was like a really good student in his class and he was like. Hey i think you'd be really good. Here's a case files. That's the only time nobody else got stuff like that. I was the only person that actually got to see. Like the j files files. Are there like there's like crime scene photos in that kind of stuff like all. The papers were warped like nasty like had been put in binders books in folders for like years because what happened in like ninety two or something. I wasn't even born yet. Yeah that's crazy. Yeah did you solve it off to kill me dahmer. Thank you april. Wanna make sure you lose your afterwards podcast today for a couple of surprises. John rich. Not only do you need to know. If they're cheating. You deserve to know the truth war right now with john. Jay enrich wore the roses. We're to talk to mandate. She thinks somebody's cheating on. Her husband is a boyfriend who is in my boyfriend. Your boyfriend okay. So we want to hear what the story is then. Kyle's in the go undercover and pretend to work for a flower shop. Call your boyfriend tell me wanna does a red roses and tell him he could send them to anybody he wants. They're very romantic. Red roses lovely. He says up to you. What your story welcome. Hi yes Thank you my My boyfriend he's i just been you know starting to get the he's maybe seeing someone else and it's making me really paranoid and it's been driving me crazy So we We started living together about six months ago and I don't know. I guess about probably like four weeks ago We planned as like nitra mantech date because you know obviously like now that we live together. This is like one of those things. I won't tell you but when once you start living with someone you actually don't really see them as much or at least that's kind of how it's been an experience so we plan this sweet date and we we've been you know we were. We were really excited to like. Go out and like ben time together outside of the house outside of work and we made a reservation this whole big thing and a couple of hours before our date. He called to cancel which is really unlike and he said he had to work You had to work overtime and You know he just. He couldn't make it so. I was kind of disappointed. I was like whatever It happens not a big deal and then last friday. We We were. We've been like binge-watching The one that flicks and We were supposed to like finally finish the show together. you know. it's just like a little thing but it was something that we were both like looking forward to and it then talking about and Anyways he he came home late on friday. And when i asked him where he was he said he had to say work to say. Stay at work late again. Which was really. It was weird the first time you know. It's kind of unusual but happen twice like in the face of a month. I don't know it just seems like something is going on you know. And how is he acting towards you. Like i mean those could that could be true. You know him. Having to stay lee at wor am but how is has been affectionate with you as that changed at all. He's just been like really quiet You know usually Obviously like we're together. We get along really well. We have a lot in common. We have a lot to talk about and just like. I don't know just like a little bit distant and we used to like really found a lot and You know just you know. We were like a source of comfort for each other. In the league weirdness of the last year and He he just been like. I dunno like kind of on a different planet like just like quiet and just like not talking as much. You know intimate. Yeah it just like. It's just like the little things you know like. He's just been like not as playful in like kind of weird but intimate are you making love. Yes and are you doing. Are you doing it face to face sideways justice ignore. Please ignore him important question. Did you know it is because they say that if a guy's cheating most of the time they're the way they do it is like he's approaching you. Sometimes they feel that they have the guy feels or perhaps acts. 'cause i haven't a while so they way they do it as they come up from behind like yelling in bed together and he'll do it so that he's spooning you like a guilty thing like they can't look at your face off all three. You be quiet that happens. Whoa wait we got spooners among no no you get back to amanda. I don't know how different subject amanda has. Is there anyone you who he works with that. He talks about a lot he. He's a cook at a restaurant and They they've hired some new like young pretty waitresses Which i know makes me sound like crazy and paranoid. And i swear i'm not but they're just like they're like very young and pretty and He also he does have an ex. She's married with kids. So i kind of inclined to think is like the new women in his life at work Okay just get him on the phone. And we'll see we sense the flowers to all right. So we're okay so we're going to call zeus. Offer him a dozen romantic red. Roses hopefully says the to amanda so we'll call him next. Outright war of the roses continues next which jane rich rich i were in the middle of the road since you've got amanda and her boyfriend hey zoos. They moved in together six months ago and now she says he's acting a little different he staying longer. He's a cook. He stayed longer at the restaurant. They've also hired some brand new very attractive waitresses there and he's not that servers. He's not that attentive at home and now she thinks he may be cheating. So amanda you there. That's pretty much a quick little recap of the scenario correct. So we're gonna call. Who's telling me one a dozen red roses very romantic red roses. We'll see how he sends them to You said he has an expert. She she's got kids but you don't think it's her right. I would doubt it was her. Okay you ready kyle. i'm ready. Let's go then let's go. Hi there looking for. Hey zeus perfect kind of your lucky day so my name is lana with company called gen our flowers. And you've actually been chosen to be one of our micro influencers so this is really cool for you his because you get to send our most romantic roses to surprise someone special in your life and it's totally free. All we ask in return is that you can either post about us on whichever social media platform you use the most or just tell. Your friends about jane are flowers. It's obviously like a really successful marketing campaign for us. we figure word of mouth right now especially during. These times is really effective. I i'm serious. I was seriously thinking about buying flowered crazy. Okay yes yes yes a timing since you already had flowers on your mind i will tell you that. This is a dozen red velvet. Roses comes in a beautiful crystal vase definitely as the. Wow flirty loving factor so we can get these sent out as early as Yeah this morning. We're going to send him out with a nice little card and that's really just your chance to personalize it and like i said there. Are you know it's pure passion bouquets so it already sends a message but some people like to get fun flirty sexy. Whatever on the card. Just do your thing. let's all right. I love this little while Let's put just because love has. That's we'd who did you want to address to my girlfriend. Amanda show. you don't wanna send them to someone else. Excuse me hello. Hey hey they it's enda thank you for thinking about what the roses but i just feel like. There's someone else wait. Who's who's on the who called me. Wait a minute wait. They've maybe brands right. Now is april fool. day is april fool now. They know he's in. This isn't not a joke. I just can you please the honest thing. Are you seeing someone else. Are you serious. No no what basic figure. Judy you've like left me hanging twice recently and you you cancelled date and when you came home you like said that you weren't feeling well and then when i wanted to reschedule use it. He's still weren't feeling well. But you like honestly look totally fine. It didn't seem like there was anything wrong. And you're you just like not talking with me like he's been really distant lately. all right. kenneth all right. It's time it's time i tell you the truth. I i wanted to sit down and talk to you about this. But it's been easy to avoid this honestly. Oh beta not that I've got the vaccine. Okay i know how you feel about it. And i i know i just don't wanna keep arguing about it. I respect that you don't want to get it. But i did want to get it and so i did so. I'm back dated. Now you're serious. You just like you just like didn't tell me you just went and did it. What what if like something crazy babe. I didn't want you to freak out. My family knows. And i was going to tell you. I swear to you i was going to tell you. I know you're interested because you know. I like we're reading different things than you want more information but i made this decision for myself. I wanted to get back to well. I'm glad you're not cheating now. I'm really worried about you and i. I'm really upset that you didn't tell me because even even if we don't agree about things you have to like communicate with me especially for living together like we have to be honest with each other even when we don't agree you're right. I'm sorry i'm sorry you're right. I should have sold you. I just. I didn't want to keep fighting about aside. He did it. And i was planning on. Tell you but. I'm sorry. I didn't know when i was going to tell you i'm sorry for that. Okay but please. i'm not cheating. i'm not cheating swear to you. I love you so you are anti vaccine. Amanda and zeus. You are pro vaccine. And so you kinda snuck around. Got the vaccine. You're on the radio. By the way john rich and so what i love. God i asked someone to call proportional my god. So she's cheating on her so she came to us to find out and so what you did. You got the vaccine. So any side effects is i like why. You've been acting weird. I mean i'll be honest. I did have a sore arm. And i was a little tired For a couple days. That didn't last that long but but see she noticed that. But that's what i'm saying so you the thing weren't sneaking around with another girl you're sticking around you got. The vaccine was sitting around with my journey. I guess now the next couple of months. You're going to turn into zombie. Want no i trust the scientists in that vial. Though that one little thing she picked up on that which means hayes irs. You can never ever lied to amanda ca. She will find out something. Yeah babe. I might get the booster shot later this year. If there's one but we'll talk about he's communicating a man. Who has that make you feel. Though it's like he was being truthful about something like that. I don't know how that would make me feel good. This is a whole new world. You're at we're walking. I don't know why i mean. Obviously it's better than they're being someone else in the picture. But i just i just feel like we just need to communicate i. It feels like a really big thing to not tell me. i'm sorry. I'm sure fire but i see that you thought was cheating but yet we've we'll talk. We will keep getting all right. So you're not cheating but you got the vaccine. Congratulations on getting the vaccine. Thank you all depends how you look at it. Some people might my in laws got vaccinated my buddy gray got vaccinated vaccinated looking at the. She is vaccinated. everyone wants to be vaccinated avar. I'm wait for everybody to get vaccinated before. I get vaccinated last one Pretty healthy waiting. I want i'd rather not take from someone else and they would. I'm the last man standing. Just don't want to either go round. People are wait in line for bad. Just meet everyone just kidding. All jokes anti vaccine vaccine. Whatever i don't i don't have a don't stand either way. I'm just lazy. Your license so yeah. I can't see you make an appointment for the crew. True anyway. Filling out paperwork. That's not your strong suit. You gotta fill the magazine sign up online line of questions. There's no way you're clear when you donate blood and you got up. You know that computer and let's like same kind of thing anyway. That's roses johnson. Rich rich on demand on iheartradio. Wherever you get your podcast this tiktok video going viral now. Because this woman. She gave seven seven different interpretations of one sentence the sentences. I never said she ate my sandwich. The meaning changes depending on the emphasis that she puts on each word. I thought this was fascinating. Meanings depending on which word stress said. She ate my sandwich biden. Didn't say it. Maybe someone else did. I never associate my here. I'm really denying the. I never said she ate my sandwich. Meaning i maybe implied it. But i never said it. I never said she ate. My sandwich means. I said someone else say i never said. She ate my sandwich meeting. Maybe i said she dropped it. I never said she ate mayes sandwich. I said she else's sandwich. I never said she ate my sandwich. She ate something of mine. But it wasn't my gosh. That's why you can never taxed the right emphasis on the right. So apple swigs survive for horse that we're gonna go over some things you can sense that no other sign can according to your horoscope sign got. The horoscopes will do that. Next judge matsch. Hello hey real quick. Let's go to heidi heidi. What's going on your ear and hear you. What's that radio. Oh what's your sign virgo. Go the same as john. Jay virgo goes all right. So this is what you're really good at sensing based on your horoscope signs. So it's almost like you're six cents. So for virgos John jay in heidi you can sense when people in situations need healing and mending you can also see details that others don't verbs also have the ability to see how a person is actually feeling behind the curtain and the mass power. That's a power that good all right Diana is a leo. Let's go to diana you see on the hotline diana all right so for leo's So it says here that you have the ability to recognize quality in off things you can also pretty much were people are thinking and you can transform hurts and negatively into something light and positive. Nice thank he. You're welcome back think that you bought alcoholic drinks. Yes i only like the beginnings. I didn't get to play on the air as everybody signed. What you drink and it's pretty funny. What you drink is shin-ei hey good morning guys how you doing good morning. So forth and so forth geminis. It says here. You're really good at sensing people's true intentions so you know when someone's trying to be ebor. They're trying to be good. You also have the power of persuasion The ability to form important bonds with ambitious people. You know who's got going on. That is so true. Guys i can. I can smell bs coming a mile away. However i don't know i don't i don't be friend just anybody you know. I gotta have some good intentions like john jay. You know him and his uncontrollable laughter. You gotta say there's something in that that time. Excuse me that. That was the first time. I've done it in a long time. That's the best video. Well what did you got a minute of it. And i think it was like ten minutes. I didn't have to make. It made me laugh. I had like tears in my eyes. I was laughing mean and it's contagious. I love it other. Thank you shanna. The video up on john rich instagram. I was having out something funny very funny. When i think about it i still go back like read. That was so funny. It was actually actually very warming they would teach people need more laughter in the world. Right i can go watch. The video of it makes makes you november november taurus. Hello hello good morning. Good morning november. So forth torres says here you have the ability to see what people actually need or want an At the moment you also have the power to create. This sense of calmness in chaotic situations. That's kind of like your power Yeah so back in flight attendant days i definitely we had a couple of emergency situations. That was the most calm so awesome. What are you laughing. Somebody to what i was going to private. You saw the laughing video to did. Yeah if the hey man. I said why are you crying so when you were flight attendant there was emerged like the mass came down on the plane that kind of emergency. We had a couple of things one we went like we went through a tornado like Everybody was heated. I was just going back to check on people. And i like hit the ceiling and fell down. It was crazy one I had a guy have a heart attack on the plane. That was like no problem. We landed. He was okay because he didn't i on my watch. It was good A terrorist attack. we had. Let's see what else we have. We had The the wheels went to go down on the plane when we landed. We had to do a crash landing. So that was jill that she survived all these array remain calm. I'd be like anybody just say. We had a terrorist attack. Just like she's so bad temper. Crash landing wilson. We're thankful thanks all right. You did me already discussed. Let's go to libra. Kyle lebron's that you can sense tribute even before it's trendy or popular. Libra can also sense the energy of a space. You're considered an impasse. So you feel what others feel okay. That's an my myself. You'll feel it out to feel to feel hungry right now. Because i do i was telling you yesterday. There's there's stuff that like started when i was pregnant. I just never went away. Rich for pisces. You can feel peaceful people's presence in a spiritual sense. Pisces can see the aura of can relate to pain in a different way than any other side also empath sign and for capricorn. This thing consents opportunities in challenges. They have the ability to think five steps ahead and transform an idea into an agency and power. And that's something that a lot of other signs do not have to get to your horoscope. It's up a judge in russia. Calm college sunny working for three things we need to know may have found the exact number of friends. You need to be successful john jay. This one super jokes already successful. So you're probably at this number and you may not realize it. I'll tell you three. You need to know next with jane. Rich charged we don't care text. Jr andrew message tonight. Six eight nine three car. Would we need to know today. Vaccine passports are now being used in las vegas these digital credentials sin Systems could show whether or not you are vaccinated against covid can help businesses limit access to those who have received the vaccine. Experts are warning not everyone's on board with the passport due to concerns on privacy and personal choice. Facebook just rolled out a new tool which allows you to limit comments to those who can see the post or only those who've been tagged in the post. So if you post something you can choose only five. People are allowed to comment on this. Everyone can comment on this or certain people can comment on this previously. There was no way for posters to screen comments before they were published. You could delete them or mute them afterwards so a new study found that something salty or something sweet can be an instant mood change. In fact they found tacos made people the most happy now when it comes to success a behavioral psychologist says. It's all in the number of friends you have and there is an exact number of friends you need to have in order to be successful. Having too many friends can be just as bad as having none. So the magic number is a hundred and fifty which to me. Sounds like so many. You know it doesn't sound like enough but they break it down for us within that hundred fifty figure they said we've got five intimate friends. That would donate a kidney. T u k. Twelve to fifteen supportive friends. Who would be distraught. If you died they would apply if you die john jay. That's your because you good friend. And finally they say at least fifty good friends who would be invited to a birthday party but maybe not an intimate dinner in your house and the rest are just you know like friends and communicate and connect with a theory is that we only have a certain amount of emotional capital energy that we can invest in others and trying to maintain too many social circles. Basically burns you out because you stretch yourself too thin. But that's that magic number because you have connection to fulfil you support to be there for you and that intimacy that humans really desperately need three things you need to know a hundred and fifty friends bringing down it. Doesn't that doesn't seem like who you invite to a party. I can see friends. Who got your wife. She knows. don't say a couple. I mean she would have one hundred and forty eight of those friends. But that's a lot of friends. Man is like woody did our wedding. I remember like ninety percent of the guests that our wedding worse her friends and family. It was fifty of the friends that you would invite to a birthday party or party. And the rest are just connection like ships connections that you've made so that's more realistic. Yes it's crazy but then you think about who you'd give a kidney to. That's that's a whole other. Level of thinking to mckinney. But really what it comes down to it. I know of like if you like now that you have kids you think differently than before you had kids totally running into my old viable coach at my high school and finding out that he needed a kidney and i was like very. I don't as feeling compelled like to give him a kidney. Because i had such a connection with them in high school and then we had a doctor on and he was like. Don't do it. You have kids. And i was like okay and then i got scared. And they didn't. And then i felt bad afterward castaway. And there's some guilt there. Because what if i could have helped but i didn't even know if i was a match and all this stuff but it was like. Yeah so there are only five intimate friends that i guess you really would do that for. Wow that's gonna make me think. All day john jane rich get some stacks and some hacks briefly touch on this little bit about the foods. Cheer us up but other foods on that list. Because i like all these foods tacos number one but his bacon steak waffles. French fries. macaroni cheese. I really really like macaroni cheese. And i think to find the best. Macaroni and cheese would be a great like television. Show quest there was a tv show about the best macaroni and cheese now. Because there's a lot of good macaroni and cheese. But it's really hard to find the best macaroni and cheese boston market. It's good it's really really good. Craft is amazing. Yeah sixty percent of people say. They improve their skills on their hobby. Thanks to all the time they spent on it. During the past year and fifty six percent of people say they believe they will master by the time life gets back to normal. It's opening day in baseball. You had to throw out a first pitch from the mound. Could you get it over the plate. Suzanne could you think i could pile. Could you absolutely rich. Could you for sure i played softball so i get. The makers of noodles have announced that they're bringing back to oh and it will be back call to be called again cup noodles rid of the. Oh when did that have time ago. Dimensions always cup of noodles. It's called cup. Noodles back in the day was cup o. Noodles one of those things that we thought it was so dimension changed. Believe it or not the brussels sprouts. We ate in the nineties. Because back then. I remember being the kid and not liking. Brussels sprouts president bush. The first one is a big deal. Hated brussel sprouts broccoli but brussels sprouts back in the nineties and the brussels sprouts. Today are totally different. The brussels brought eight in the nineties. Were bitter and in the ninety scientists figured out. What made brussels sprouts so better. So they were able to cross pollinate them in grow the ones that we eat now. The ones we now are different than the ones we ate in the nineties also cooked and bacon. My parents did that thirty. Good people said they don't check their bank accounts as much as they probably should. According to study the main reasons they're afraid to find out how much money that's in there dilute it was busted on tuesday with a bag of clear crystal powder. He said it wasn't drugs. He said it's a salt treatment for ingrown toenail so the cops had tested turned ugly mess worth a guy in new york was busted for stealing several cars earlier in the week and he showed up for his court appearance in a stolen car. This is interesting. The average person says they need to spend two hundred and seventy five dollars to buy all new clothes would. It's time to go back to the office and thirty. Eight percent of people are going to buy clothes. That's more comfortable when they do go back to the office and it is national burrito day today in drug dog on the border in arizona. Sift out sixty thousand dollars worth of drugs hidden inside burritos. Drug woman got kicked out of the club in texas. She got home. She attacked her boy through the hairdryer because he didn't have sex. Ler locomotive is a train. Right uh-huh some thieves of florida broke into a locomotive and took it for joy. Reid what does that forward steam trays. Malecki was going ninety miles. An hour took a diver in croatia. Broke the guinness book of world records by holding his breath underwater for twenty four minutes. Thirty three seconds. Ask what the cbc put its guidelines for easter sunday. They say if people are going to get vaccinated. Then it's okay to be together without masks only for vaccinated. If you're not and you're with your family you will be arrested. Stop that the. Easter bunny will kick down the door. What has gone on in here. The fast food chain. What a burger just announced they handed out ninety million dollars in bonuses to employees as last year little nausea says that if his long montero goes the number one. This is so weird here. What he's doing now. He's gonna give all of his followers toll. Pack of hanes socks that is random. He's like hey we wouldn't be a lot of money. How can we pair with. You is like i don't know i'll just give it away. You always need these socks. British spears dad wants her to pay three million dollars legal fees so he can continue. Fighting for in court would have scum wrong. Millie bobby brown. Who stars the godzilla movie has never seen star wars. Never seen harry potter and never seen any of the marvel movies grad highest paid coach in the history of the voice. Yeah okay anyway. Do you ever live well as people start to travel again. There's a couple of travel life hacks. I think this one is the best saving money on your airline ticket. So if you go on your browser and you're on a travel website to book ticket and you go back to it. The prices go up so put your browser in incognito bowed or switch browsers and go back and you will still get a cheaper ticket price and then they say also mark your baggage as fragile because that means they put at the top of the stack in it comes out i on baggage so you will get your bags. I if you market as frasca tip right there once another one. I don't know how do you get incognito mode on your browser setting oh it's actually kind of fun going into Incognito mark like spy i don't really know what it does. I'm an incognito. Why always have it in incognito. Just always be a while like a default setting because like a lot of people like their password saved and their choices saved and all that stuff so if you put fragile on like on your suitcase like that is a great life hack now if you're the baggage handler like their lion. I wonder if that's like a temptation. I shake it. What's it here fragile. So hailey bieber just came out and listed what social media rules. She has for herself so we want to know what social media rules. You have maybe rosiak for your partner. Kyle's got all the bieber rules. We're going to get into those social media rules next john rich bone like the actual phone call eight seven seven nine three seven one zero four seven john jay enrich gives them entertainment stuff starting stuff. Yeah social media for. I think anyone you know. There's trolls out there. But when you get to the celebrity status of justin hailey bieber you know. The trolls are like out of control. And so it's caused some changes specifically in haley. Bieber's life because of advice that justin had given her because she said specifically twitter and just social media in general. It just got to the point where it was overwhelming for her. We just have so many people hounding you at the same thing over and over and over again it starts to mess with your mind and then you start to question everything. Got such a low point to me. That i was like honestly. Maybe i'm delusional. One of the things. That i found really helped me is. I don't go on instagram monday. Through friday. I don't even have a twitter anymore. Because there was never really a time i would go on there that it didn't feel like it was a very toxic environment. The thought of even opening the app gives me such batting's id that i feel like i'm gonna throw up. My husband has helped me so much with it. Like i really have to give him credit. She said having been through a lot of the things on this huge super level for so long justin was able to say like. Hey you can use the social media but used in the right way so it's healthy for you mentally well. Someone like her like for us. It's part of our job like we. It's like if. I didn't work for here if i was a banker which would be hilarious. I wouldn't have any social media right. Yeah for sure. Yeah absolutely so britney spears obviously all eyes have been on her recently mostly because of the framing britney spears documentary and since then so many people have come forward in her past life including one of her former like a sentence. People that worked for her. Who said she's definitely not in control of her social media. Which a lot of people have speculated for a long time and sharon stone actually recently came forward and said during the height of like. I guess you could say britney's breakdown like two thousand seven ish Brittany reached out to her britney wrote to me a very long and important poignant letter during a very difficult time in her life about the time when people would recognize over when she shaved her head wanting me to help her and i was in a very difficult time of my life and i couldn't help myself. We both needed help. Does she said she'd never really like got back to her. Couldn't offering how because she was going through her own thing. But then sharon stone did say she's like i think it's something that a lot of women celebrities relate with each other because every woman celebrity gets handled. They don't they lose control of choices in their life. And you kind of got to see that in the demi levato documentary. I was one of the things that she said actually made. Her relapse is not having any control over a book coming out right sharon stone so there was a movie. Movie was called the quick and the dead so she's in it and leonardo dicaprio's in it and the story and i think this is going to be her book where she talks about. She was a big star issues. Sign onto this moving. She went leonardo dicaprio to play in a movie. And they didn't want him and he wasn't a name yet and so they said if you want him in it then you pay him so she was like okay so she paid him out of her salaried movie in that movie launched him to get titanic to get everything else after that. Romeo juliet all that stuff because of her now he was already on a sitcom done growing page but he was. He hadn't done movies at broke him out yet. According to sharon stone. I remember being in a basketball basketball diaries. With mark wahlberg and stuff. But i don't know. That's that's what i heard anyway. So grant on our show fascinating whom being when you guys agree had like twenty lives. Yes so i. Don't you say anything yet. what i'm about to give you guys a little tip. That or a clue. As i created a game around get grant the grad game. He's had a ton of jobs. Jobs that are people's careers. Amazing job so as i was gonna realistic jobs. He's had i was. I thought i'd borrow some off. You guys evening guests whether these are real jobs. He's had or not so. I grueling crazy jobs fund job started come trying to get creative with jobs right and a lotta times those writing down fake jobs. Because we see the or these jobs grants head or grant. Hasn't had as i was googling crazy jobs. Some of the crazy jobs are jobs. He's hat of course like it's insane list of of crazy jobs and the jobs he's had and both lists are equally bizarre. So i'm gonna want you to guess. I'm gonna tell you. Is this a job grants really had or it's a job. He's had okay so because the guys had amazing jobs it is an passarge jobs. All right so we'll play the great game. John rich i. We're like two hours away from olivia rodriguez new song deja-vu right out can play the great game. Would you call a radio. Show most likely grants the person answers. The phones he always smiles. You see him in the back of the window talking with his hands. He's so happy to talk. he's always a happy guy. He's the reason. I'm laughing in the video. If you go to. George h instagram laughing. My ass off so grant is a fascinating person. He's had so many jobs very unique different jobs so taken his real jobs and tried to find other equally unique jobs and see if you guys can guess if he had a real job or not. Now a lotta times when someone presents is hosting a game show. We've got audio clips to play right. I don't have audio clips whether to tell you whether you're right or wrong i have the actual real grant in the studio. Thank you make you every game up. Twenty twenty-nine if you are right and you pick that it is grant job grant is gonna say that was my job. Yeah hey i'm grit and that was my job. Hey i'm grant and that was my job and if you're wrong that what you say. Take this job shove. I'm grant take this job and shove it. Okay kyle you're i got this. Grant was grant. Ever a human scarecrow at a haunted farm. No i'm grant. That was not my job. Shove it take this job and shove it got it right right by. The way was grant ever aerobics instructor. 'grats no he was not i'm grant and that was my picture. Pastor dolphin shorts. How did not know that about you. That's amazing noon aerobics at the. Ymca and elkhart indiana rich was grant ever a parade mascot was he a parade mascot. No he was not a parade mascot. I'm grant and that was my job. I was a ninja turtle. While i worked with the shriners it was followed the float. It was it was a real treat for me. Kyle was grant ever a city park supervisor. A city park. I feel like that's pretty high but then his family was really connected. Still you know what i'm going to say. Yeah i'm grant and that was just rushing shoes that what's grant ever an elevator mechanic that wrong but yes he was. I'm grant and you can take this job. doing that. be rich was great ever a waterslide tester. No i'm grant and you can take this job at show. Good kyle was grant ever a focus group participant. Oh you'd be perfect for that. How could he not if you haven't done that yet. But i'm gonna go with absolutely i'm grant and you can take that job. I would love to do it. But i think that's not. Okay that's not. That was ever a security guard at target. yes he was a was grant ever a sperm donor. Officially got paid for the paperwork can see him. I could see himself and say he's. He's a smart guy too so yes he was. I'm grant and you can take that job and shove it well. Easy money kyle was grant ever mystery shopper at macy's loss and you can take this job. Nope suzanne was grant. Commercial actor a commercial actor. No he wasn't. I'm grant and that was my classify that and then i did an mri ad for a hospital. And they didn't air it because you could see the nipple rings through my rich grant ever an automotive assembly worker for the union factory yes. I'm and that my job up all right. That's that's one many jobs with grad by the way had quite the life so fun so fun you guys are. You guys did really good job you really use. Your phone was originally designed to be used talking to other humans. Call us eight seven seven nine three seven one zero four seven. Johnny and rich aren't so yesterday's big news. President biden's rescue dog. One of his dogs pooped right right in the white house floor in the hallway and it made national news so we want to know where your dog. Your pet relieved themselves and you had to apologize. Call eight seven seven nine. Three seven one zero four seven john jane rich in red. Wow another major news. Day when i say major i am again talking about president. Biden's dog has defile the hallway outside the exception room just off the white house south one. What a scoop. That is that i. I liked the white house dog. Making a bowel movement is a news story are year ago. We're out of ventilators. So what i hear about your dog or you're going to the bathroom somewhere and you had to apologize for it because it happened to me. It was really bad actually happened to my wife fourteen. Was there joshua what happened to you. My dog would poop right outside the door in the patio. And i have to say sorry to my mom. I beg for the dog. And i still won't pick up the poop. Why won't you pick up the poop. Well 'cause my dog has really bad stomach issues and it just gets everywhere around the port own. Do a good sign and pick it up. hose off. Thanks bro cana. What happened to you. You had to apologize. My dog pooped in the eighties. Customs security after an eight hour flight. I was moving back from italy. And i have a miniature dachshund and to go through security. I had to take them out a little bag. And as soon as i take him out. He starts pooping in front of everybody in customs there so like strict to like they're looking at you mean already. I just random over to a garbage can and i was like. I'm so sorry. Go so sad. Thanks anna brindley. You're on the air My dog bo. He was outside and he was right next to my other dog and he lifted his leg and he started team on her on the other dog. Yeah mark in your territory. Yeah extremely off so we have our dog. I don't remember which dog it was ours. It but one of our dogs in we have a place of pie top of north. I wasn't there i got. It was there but he our dog got out. Took a running and the governor has a cabin down the street from us. And i think it was tugs. It not what. Our dogs took off and pooped on their doormat on the door. The welcome mat like welcome to our cabin in right there so that my wife had run home and grabbed whatever the plastic bag whatever and picked up the poop in the door and then the governor opens the door equipped so she said flowers everything to the decoder. Ron like if she's leaving it there though. That is the worst that happened. Rich to the governor though. Not the governor. No but when my dog penny lane was just a poodle arm. Cya abadie poodle before rottweiler puppy and paula. Abdul is over at the house of freaked out at the puppy started talking about high. My gosh. I can't wait to the puppy and i think the high scared her feet all over paula abdul paula abdul man embarrassing. I saw this thing. I saw this throwback audio and i for some reason. I bet you rich you already know about this. One of the smartest dude. I know but i didn't know about this. Did you hear about the time in spirit when we landed on. What's the nicest thing ever. But it was so fast flat kadett moon right and so this guy on the moon. He took a hammer and a feather doodo already. Now says of this. I thought was kind of everybody. Guys lands on the moon takes a hammer and a feather and scientists. Say that if you drop them on the moon they're gonna land at the same time you heard of that the galileo gravity can there's video of it and he did it did it in nineteen seventy one and it was like however many years ago that was today on this date and i have audio of it and i thought i'd never heard before so i thought if i play any richard go. Yeah that happened at right. So you've never heard of. So here's here's the guy actually early my left hand. I have a feather right. A hammer reasons we got here. Today was because of a gentleman named galileo longtime ago tomato rather significant discovery about gravity field. So i thought he's going to do it and it's not gonna work you know here's his galileo guy Who says my theory is no gravity. They're going to fall at the same time. And i'm like wow. They're going to prove that it didn't work better place and confirmed his findings and so we thought we try it here for you at the feather happens to be appropriately. A falcon fitter for our falcon. And i'll the two of them here and hopefully go hit the ground at the same time about correct and his findings pretty big news. Why would we all heard about this. Maybe it was pretty big news like when they actually landed on the moon Back in whatever. Galileo who was at was that was probably the renaissance probably like the galileo. Guys go. i'm telling you get the moon. Everything's the same time he'd be like shut impose guy wouldn't you think they'd do enough research work. By the time the technology takes to get to the moon you would already know the hammer and the thing is gonna andrew. Maybe you shouldn't be going to the moon if he can't prove that on earth and they're like okay. Well i guess we go home now now. This this is absolutely true. There's a new tourism ad for south australia. It's going viral because it's very suggestive sexual way. It seems intentional because the people behind it another add a long time ago got banned because it was really dirty in two thousand sixteen. This ad talks about all the amazing food in south australia. Your your sentencing station hardened solve a through flavor time to straighten bush ninety seven lands. Is it time to discover and explore out even to lie. It's time to go down south with your mouth. Oh my regret this graph ending though. I know we're who. I thought it was fine until yeah the very end. This is big so that was pretty excited. A couple of days ago. I got the news from suzanne a couple of days gone esau everywhere yesterday about the obi-wan-kenobi series right but the news. Today is a jar jar is not going to be in it. There's jar jar. We're fine with that. I know i know so. Jar jar binks was what they call the big negative part of all. Your brainless is the ability to speak. Does not make you intelligent. Now get out of you know mrs john. Thanks mrs. you're humble any attempt to escape. Glow you words in here. Definitely the part of the whole stars franchise that you're watching something cool. I'm like oh win but this is a little kid movie. There's actually a jar jar binks anthem. A star wars song tequila the ability to be telecoms forger jar. They asked him about the. Ob one series and he was like. I'm really happy that my friends get together. And no. I think we got some drunk doubts coming up next on jalen rich. Find enrich on on iheartradio more. Wherever you get your podcasts coaches trainer. Just text me said till count. We wanna do a sand workout tonight at six. And i said he's got a team thing tonight in gilbert but my phone changed it to say he has a -til thong from five to seven. Now go team thing team thing. Not -til long different. God aright or drunk dial line is six to eight eight eight nine hundred thirty three six. Oh two eight eight eight nine hundred thirty call you can give it out to guys that are hitting on you and you want them to call you and i believe that's what this message is. Oh god i honestly. I only touch you or i think schubert's you i think on super q why should feel you voted together. Look oh god. Honestly i think is the jury. Oh i've already been kicked out of one bar you've been listening but just if you want me his a. One seriously. If i want you all his number once you. So it's one shot the whole book and the number one righty one hit it Trump card to gain that should six zero two eight hundred eight nineteen thirty three. Okay one question to date. You had mentioned that your mom with pronouncing a clean protocol for the longest time that you were looking for it. Everywhere and i cannot remember how she pronounced. It was actually hysterical and i. i don't know a product that would be remember this story at all. Can you please tell me where take you of course never gonna forget. It's the awesome cleaning product. It was. I was so me the way she though my whole life that has been. I was told me cat and i've done that before where i like. Ask them can you give me the under the sink. And they're like what are we going to play new game. Our new cast member peyton is going to host a game. Called payton's categories john rich. Okay replacing game payton's categories peyton is the host new member of our show. Peyton how do we play this game. Pay categories. i'm basically just gonna give you guys a category and then we're gonna rapid fire around the room. So we'll start with john. Jay rich suzette kyle. It's as fast as you can go. And if you don't say a word if you pause or if you say the wrong word or you answer wrong or anything of that nature then you point and if you get at the end of the game and however many points you have the most you lose womp womp womp so we can't repeat them either like no. You can't repeat it. So i'm going to give you a category and then we're just gonna spit off. Okay starting with as fast as you can go. Okay super. mario bros. Fans are freaking out about rumors. That nintendo is killing. Mario off the category is nintendo characters. Go go okay. Donkey kong grew up rich. Mario yoshi luigi wales. We'll wheelbarrows principe. What the wheel donkey kong. That's a character man. So the game the judge so we also i don't know i think that's an l. Okay one point john. These second one justin bieber's new song peaches as sitting at number six. I tunes top. One hundred. The category is fruit peaches. Strawberries bananas apples watermelon. Conklin kiwis grapes purple grapes rates. Apple's yellow apples shooter that he hasn't started every time so that we can do it. That's how we're supposed to do that. Yeah well game. Work in progress move it. I was asking the boss. I think that was more a suggestion engine. Was we start with rich. The president's dog dropped a deuce on the white house floor. The category is dog breeds. Poodle english bulldog yorkie lassie boxer hound. Frenchie keeps the judge. Line the judge. If i'm slipping past the co host of the game then that's on the is causing time to think. Well this is how i feel about game. You're not cheating than you're not trying so with you on that we don't get to call. You can just. I have to agree with it. I think last talk if you call me out at the end of the game at the end of the round. Hey that's so. There was no such wheel. There's no because you've got to be slick u. The point is faster faster faster. If you could slice up the by somebody that you've got the angeles crap you call me out. You're stalling to come up with a name of a of a thing to lose around but if you call out but if you're out you're stopping the round and then you are giving yourself time because you said an incorrect so wait until the round is over and then go. That wasn't your out and she'd go. You're right that wasn't there is no such thing as lassie dog. You're out that round. You're out you don't know niki. Also fair anything wrong. But then you're calling me out afterward. I sold is the point that way. You don't because you're thinking oh my gosh never stops that. Many dog breeds played. Just cancel. the dog breed off. Here we go. Demi levato and noah cyrus miley cyrus. His little sister may have begun a little fling. The category is disney. Child stars miley cyrus. No thursday just regarding Home i was hoping somebody with justin timberlake spears out there. Jesse mccartney was a child star mccartney was destined disney child. 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Jane rich back to judge rich college would need to know because of the whole debacle and the suez canal. They're having major problems with international shipping. And they say it's likely that we're going to have shortages again on toilet paper also furniture cheese and coffee. They're worried people might start panic. Buying they say it should only take. Maybe like a week or two to get things of back on track. That's what you need to know. Figura shows you told hypocrites national day today. Zac what's up. You're on the air so long story. Short My wife and i we had to drive down to california Five and a half hours down five and a half hours back com to go and rescue my mother I know that they're both in the car. Listening to the show right now and i just wanted to say to my wife definitely that i love you so much. You're the only one for me in this world. And i can't thank you enough for dropping everything calling out of work with me to erecting my mom. I love you so much. 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Election 2020 U.S. Foreign Policy Forum

CFR On the Record

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Election 2020 U.S. Foreign Policy Forum

"I'm Ju Ju Chang. I'm the CO ANCHOR OF ABC News Nightline I'm here to welcome you to the Council on Foreign Relations Special US Foreign Policy Forum and I'm here with four distinguished panelists who I will introduce you in a moment first a little bit of housekeeping though. I just wanted to start by reminding you all that. This is an on the record conversation. We will get a chance to learn about foreign policy priorities throughout the afternoon. It's an hour and a half we very much forward to getting your questions. As you know, the Council on Foreign Relations is a non-partisan source of information for Global Affairs and foreign. Policy. We are really looking at helping everyone on this call today. Make informed choices at the ballot box in November and to communicate those policy priorities moving forward. also wanted to point to you that election twenty twenty is a valuable resource to citizens as well as journalists. There are candidate trackers would see a forest award-winning website, www dot, cfr dot org Richard Haass's very happy that I'm I'm hocking the website right now. And I want to also take a moment to thank the Carnegie Corporation of New York for their generous support of the election twenty twenty series. So with that, I'm going to introduce to you the candidate. Candidates be people speaking about the candidates panelists. Today I'm going to start an ethical order with Ruben Brigadty. Ruben. Is the vice chancellor and president of the University of the south. Now, you have each the panelists BIOS at your Pleasure just click and read but I don't want you reading while we're talking I want to just give you some highlights of everyone CV. Rubin served for a time at at a State Department, he was dean of George Washington. University's Elliott School of International. Affairs He was the permanent representative, the US at the UN Ecconomic Commission for Africa He spent time at USA ID in development. Obviously, he was a researcher with the Arms Division for the human, rights? Watch. And in Nineteen, ninety five, that was a while back. He was distinguished midshipmen graduate of the US Naval Academy. Lucky. Didn't think I'd bring that up. Did you Ruben? As and he earned his PhD in international relations from the University of Cambridge and I bring that up because Richard Haass got his PhD. In England as well, I don't know what they have against American. Institutions of higher learning Richard A is our fearless leader at the council on Foreign Relations. He's also a veteran diplomat and thought leader. Often seen on morning joe as you know. I'll give you a few highlights of his career. He was chair of the multi-party negotiations for Northern Ireland for which won the tipperary international peace award. He worked at the State Department as a principal advisor to Secretary of State Colin Powell. He also was a US coordinator for policy on the future of Afghanistan and the US an envoy to Northern Ireland is out special assistant under President George H. W Bush on the National Security Council also. From Oxford the world scholarship all of that Um and author of fourteen books the latest of which is called the world of brief introduction Undertaking there, Jamie Mystic is our next catalyst. She's a CO Vice Chair of Kissinger Associates It is a strategic international consultant group that basically helps their clients assassin navigate emerging, global, Geo, political, and macroeconomic risks. Prior to that, she served as a global head of sovereign risk at Lehman brothers and prior to her private sector career she spent twenty two years in intelligence. At the CIA, as the deputy director of intelligence under tenant and she really helped determine the content of the President's daily briefing at that time also served at an se is also now vice chair I should point out of the council on Foreign Relations. Board of directors so much to discuss with Jamie and last but not least Fran or Fran. Townsend is vice chair general counsel chief. Administrator. officer at mcandrew and Forbes Inc.. before that corporate partner, Baker? botts. Served as assistant President George, W Bush for Homeland Security and counterterrorism, and shared the length security. As. Well, spent time at the Justice Department under the administrations of George H W Bush Bill, Clinton and George W Bush a frequent contributor on CNN and our previously on CNN now on. CBS. So. Hopefully, you're familiar with all of our panelists work body of work, and now let's dig into this foreign policy conversation and Richard I guess let's start with you. Let me have you set the table There was a presidential debate. Two nights ago lots of drama lots of conflict not a lot of foreign policy save for a few glancing references. So set the framework for us today. What do you think Let's say the next debate is all about foreign policy one of the global affairs and foreign policy priorities for the next administration. Well. Thank you, Juju. Doing this. Thank. Three people doing this. And let me also bank all of those who are part of this meeting. Even though the issues of foreign policy did not figure prominently the other night I'll leave to you whether that was a good thing or a bad thing. The fact is that whoever is the next occupants of the Oval Office whether it's president trump vice-president? I wish point would be president, Biden if it were to happen. Again even know these issues not figure prominently the other night they will figure prominently. In the days and nights of whoever is sitting in the oval. Office. Let me emphasize just three things. One is to apart he's. Once. In priorities instead the revival of power competition continuing with the United States in Russia and one of the first decisions the next president is going to have to make is what to do about it should expire nuclear arms control agreement with with Russian. And then more broadly, the new president's going to have to figure out how does the United States deal with a rising China? How economically, how do we deal with them choose sensing in Asia and beyond how do we compete with them economically, but also international China has A. Large belt and Road Infrastructure Mishopin Halloween Halloween Act to that. So great power rivalry which a lot of people thought was essentially, we going the way of history when the Cold War ended three years ago has, shall we say we turn? And then. Second set of issues in some ways reflects the current situation on France, house and we'll talk more about one of them, which are all the global issues that the final life we've got infectious disease in the pandemic. We have those everyone living in California so. The the effects of climate change. We just marked nine, hundred nine out of her serie of nine eleven. We still face the realities of. Of Terrorism, just the Washington Post man very long story about how the North Korean nuclear missile threat as actually increased dramatically over the last year and a half years we have. An Internet. That is essentially unregulated is obviously being used to interfere in off politics. When everyone decisions, the new president is going to have to decide what does the United States do About these global challenges and how do we do to what extent we join existing Organization for treaties to what extent we tried to create nuance what we do alone what are we do with others? I think data very much be on the agenda and then quickly just mentioned to you on that I'll stop is here going to have to deal with China with Russia. With these global challenges at a time, there is not a way. Political Consensus in the United States about what to do about and even how important, how many about how much more resources in order to go to them, and he's going to have to deal with reality. covid nineteen is still going to be very much front and center in our country. Tens of millions of people will still be will be out of work we're going to be divided politically perhaps even more divided than ever possibly election obviously all the racial tensions in this country and all the other. Of healthshare infrastructure schooling immigration, all these other issues remain unresolved. So what this little adds up to you, and it's the reason we're doing this event is that you're going the new president is dining room heritage world although ordinary foreign policy international challenges at a time, this country is going to have its Hansel. With domestic challenges. But what we've learned is we can't ignore these aren't challenges ignore them to our peril. The world is not going to give us a few years to sort ourselves out and then just sit there waiting for us so bad to me is going to be extraordinarily inbox they either Mr Trump warminster. Martin Richard, that's a great table setting. Out? What I'd love now is to get our participants involved and you number in excess of thousands so. I want to ask a US foreign policy forum whole three questions. The first of which is when considering whom to support for President informed policy is that a big factor? Somewhat not a factor second question is which of the following? Do you consider the greatest threat to national security? And their question is and all you have to do is scroll down on the right. How much emphasis should the United States place on Foreign Policy And then I will re ask the poll. At the end of this discussion and see if our panelists are able to. Move the needle at all on these results. So go ahead and submit. And while you guys are thinking about the full. Let's give Jamie a chance to comment on a on a question. And that is Jimmy you spent so much of your career in intelligence. Give us a sense in broad strokes of how the intelligence community has fared during this administration as an institution as a whole and what do you think the response will be from the International. Intelligence community and the National Security Community. In the event that either of these candidates wins. A thank you. It's great to be here and to speak about intelligence, which is something I feel passionately about. Your think it's been a very difficult period of time not just reinforce officers but for a lot of what we would call our national security career professionals on whether they're FBI, Foreign Service officers, uniformed military people, and certainly those people I served with CIA. I think that you know from the second day of the administration when president trump went out and stood in front of this Marble Wall in the lobby of CIA headquarters pays tribute to the people who have sacrificed their lives on behalf of protecting this country gave a speech that was political in nature not. The nonpartisan approach that intelligence tries to take to the issues, and so I think it was a rocky start and I don't think it has improved a very much since then. I think for the people there. They put their heads down and continue to try and carry out the mission which is protecting national security, and I say that for the intelligence officers, Foreign Service officers, FBI across the board and one of the reasons that they put the national. Security Act together nineteen forty seven was to make sure that those critical functions were not dependent on being parties, changing administrations and so I think. We need to honor that public service that those people have provided. If there is a second. Term for president trump. I think they will do what they've been doing for the last several years, which is continue to do their job to the best of their ability make sure that they are supporting cabinet level and other under secretaries assistant secretaries throughout the administration who do value the intelligence that they're providing and I think if President the president of. Presidential election goes to Joe Biden. He's going to be somebody who they are very familiar with you know he has been in Washington for a long time. He has served as vice president. He has received the President's daily briefing. I think that he would be appreciative of their their efforts and I think that they would be a morale would would increase as a result of once again having the president said tension. Choosing your own new you. I. WanNa. Give, everyone the results to the poll. Instantaneous. Clearly, this is a well informed group. It's a seventy percent victory for a big factor in the decision, the election and the second question is interesting thirty eight percent climate change thirty-five percent China twenty, percent Russia, and seventy nine percent of you think that the US should spend more time in resources on foreign policy to self selection I suspect. Ruben, I wanted to get you to talk. About some of the things we were talking about before we came on, which is this idea that the nature of American leadership on the global stage has changed and what the implications of that are, and that how many ways domestic policy is an extension of global policy. Ribbon Gerbil who's you and it's a pleasure to be with everybody both on the screen and out there. In Cyberspace I knew a guy once who said that foreign policy begins at home. Hat, tip to my friend Richard Haass. And what is meant by that think what he meant by the whole correct me if I get wrong. Is that? Only. Do we have to tend to the obvious sources? Of the power they'd be deployer economic strength, our our our military's power etcetera that also. American leadership. Any leadership leadership is not the same thing as dominates. Dominance is the ability to force somebody to do what you tell them to do. Leadership is the ability to invite others into your vision for the future. So that they see interest in following along with you. And for. Essentially A large portion of the strength of American leadership is derived from. The way in which we have lived our values at home. That's what gave Soviet. Dissidents hope during the Cold War. It's what has allowed our colleagues in from from across these aged Latin America to want to embrace aspects of democratic governance and respect for human rights. and. What I would say is I actually Disagree with you to actually think there was plenty of foreign policy on display at the. The other night in this sense is that we showed the world at that debate wasn't cancellation of much of the dysfunction that has governed American, American domestic political scene for years, not simply during the trump administration. And if we are going to continue. To be a place that can rally the world to our highest hopes and aspirations. than. I would say that the next thirty seven days in the next couple of months after that, actually vital because the world is going to be watching us with a degree of intensity that they have not done a very, very long time. And I would submit that. Those of us who identify themselves as foreign policy professionals are always having our eye on the horizon, our respective bury's of inches for me, Africa or Russia or China whomever. But this is foreign policy professionals in all his average citizens. Need. To call our government our country to account over the course these next several weeks. And we need to insistence falling things. One. That we simply will not have violence in our streets and we will not allow violence to be part of the political discourse here regardless of the ideology or the propensity of any group. That we need to call an insist upon our our political leaders to actually break down there there entrenched political partisan positions as it relates specifically to ensuring the integrity of this election process. In the third I can't believe I have to say it. But I think that we all need to continue in our respective ways to reiterate what political leaders of both political parties have done. The last twenty four hours in that is to categorically reject white supremacy. As a fundamentally illegitimate ideology in the twenty, first century America. And then we all insist on an America that is built for everybody. I think we all need to sort of take on that responsibility as citizens to make our voices heard in this particularly perilous moment. Thank you Ruben for that I appreciate your thoughtfulness on that Fran Lemme have you pick up on this idea of the peaceful transition of power as we were discussing. The idea of election integrity what will happen on November third and what you know just to throw a another idea into the hopper for you the idea of Russian interference that we've been grappling with for years. Takeaway. Four. So look we know in twenty sixteen, the Russians interfered and we know from the director several directors of National Intelligence. It was attempted interference, the eighteen twenty eighteen midterm elections. We know that there have been attempts at influence on this election by Russia China and Iran offer different reasons and the interference takes many forms whether it's interference using public media and trying to take advantage of divisions in this country that already exist in exacerbating them or whether it is in an in an effort to sway voters one way or another is to one of the candidates or political parties. This isn't going to stop right. It's vulnerability. It's. A natural function of a democracy where people can speak and what people can speak and have opinions and express themselves our adversaries none of which are functioning democracies are taking advantage of the vulnerability autocracy we ought to recognize then our strengths now have are also our weaknesses in terms of our adversaries and be alert. The these social media companies are trying to do more to weed out those who are trying to use social media to influence voters as they didn't twenty sixteen. The federal government to the Department of Homeland Security has a much more robust program to work with state and local officials. I think we forget in this country the federal government doesn't administer of election in any sense. The responsibility, the legal authority to administer an election is with your state and local representatives who are less resourced and. able to understand the threat Zoa was really important with the federal government down does would you share that thread information and help them plug vulnerabilities at the state and local level whether it's with polls, registers election machines, and they're helping they're working cooperatively together because that's really where the responsibility is pick up on where what Ruben was saying I'm many state and local. Police departments now sadly have felt the need to do riot training and drills in the expectation of in this election unlike others we ought to expect that we're not gonNA wake up the morning after the election and know for certain what the result is where one candidate has conceded, and another one is claimed victory. It's likely that we're going to have a protractive. While nalen ballots and absentee ballots get sorted through there is likely to be litigation and it's in that period where I? Think the police departments are worried that there will be domestic violence I couldn't agree more with Ruben, I think regardless of Party we all ought to be outspoken about the fact that there needs to be calm. We need to be respectful of each other we need to wait for the lawful outcome of the election. The other piece to that though Juju, is I. Worry about our adversaries around the world they're planning for that period of uncertainty too and how many they take advantage of what may be perceived as a vacuum in leadership will China. Decide. That's the moment to be aggressive in the South China Sea or against Hong Kong or Taiwan will Iran choose that moment? To be aggressive and these are these Saudi Arabia. Bahrain Israel. What will Russia choose to do to try to sow discontent here and I so I think that the vulnerability is not just domestic I think it's worldwide. And thank you for that Richard. Let me turn the page a little bit according to our poll. The. Pat Participants. I think rightly. So believe climate change China are two of the highest foreign policy. Priorities You've talked a lot about climate change and policy moving forward. Joe, Biden said he would reenter the Paris accord I. Know You don't think that's enough. But what what steps need to be taken by either candidate in the next administration About Climate Change China over. I'm change while you could do both I was going to leave China for Jamie but you do. Look climate change. I think going into the back into the Paris agreement I think it makes sense nobody should get himself or herself even if the United States where to do that the Paris Agreement is inadequate framework. But essentially leaves each participating country these them the choice of how ambitious descended its goals. So each country doesn't even if everybody lived up to the goals they set, we still would only make a dent and we would not stop much less reverse. Climate Change so You gotta going back into the game and it's more at this moment symbolic. Then, then significant and the real question is, can we find some mechanism globally? To get the world on a better trajectory. Skeptical I think very hard to get the major countries to agree largely concerned such different places in terms of their economic development in terms of their. Political situations I think a more likely approach is going to be certain areas of national effort reflecting technology shifts, regulatory policy mileage standards for cars, different standards about which fuels can be used and so forth and ultimately Ju Joe I think there's going to be a big issue. About rather than thinking about some Paris like approach do we have shown our approaches for example, certain countries in this or that trade agreement might come together and say if you want to experts this block You have to meet certain climate standards but if you persist for example in using coal As part of as the fuel for your manufacturing, you're going to have to pay a tariff for. So my guess is if we're going to make progress on climate change and may not be with something that would slide Harris through the UN General Assembly might be much more combination of national efforts and our multilateral off. It's all of which is to say this is going to be complicated. It's GonNa take a while and. It's GONNA needs to be a priority because even if we start to act now it's going to be years and years before it has the kind of impact that we want need. But but I don't think there's any quick thing that can be. I also think I'll say one more thing. It can't be done unilaterally. The what's what's so calm and all these challenges like climate like infectious disease or anything else. Is that no country can you more shown then it can do with without. I would actually think that what the most important thing that could happen early on in the next administration regardless of who wins I think it's likely to happen. Biden were to win less likely to happen Mr Trump were to win is that the United States would spend the first few months addressing the of domestic challenges, the Reuben others talking about, but to talking to allies and partners saying, okay. How do we address these challenges that affect the soul? How do we adjust for example, climate change? What can we do together? So actually think the first few months of the next administration would wilshire by repairing alliances. This is. The United States up every morning with an enormous structure advantage we have several dozen countries in Europe and in Asia. who were partners they have shown over the last seventy, five years their willingness to work with, and if we are going to make real progress against such collected challenges as I am a change best way we could start is by sitting down with our allies and partners in Europe and in Asia particular the world's largest economies, and basically saying if we can't come up with a with an approach that everybody is willing to sign up to. Jamie as promised, one of our thorniest partnerships is our relationship. With China, how do you think the US China relationship is playing out in this election cycle and what? Advice would you give? The next administration on how to repair what's been going on inside from blaming China for the pandemic there hasn't been a tremendous amount of a a bridge building. Well I think the Chinese. Party officials. Become accustomed to rhetoric on China going up during election cycles. Then when a new administration comes in, they governed in a different way than they their rhetoric indicated in a campaign. I think they'd been surprised over the last four years that some of the rhetoric actually was the way they governed and that that has been a real adjustment in our relationship. But a couple of things Lost a lot of support it had domestically here in the United States. The business community has gone from being a major proponent of cooperation with China, economic ability to do business in China to one where they are now beginning to either be more neutral on it or even negative about no we are not having an affair, a plainfield when we do our business there. and. They've they've kind of lost a key component of support here in the United States and I think that surprised with the speed with which that turn I think you also have seen. In the aftermath of the corona virus, there was some pretty intense. Diplomatic moves made by the Chinese that were off putting to a lot of countries. Australia asked for an international team to go in and investigate the origins of the virus and Chinese. Diplomats. Threatened embargoes on Australian goods. same sort of reaction you saw in in countries in Europe as well. So I think this will warrior diplomacy as it was billed at the time. Has has had a backlash and you've seen China try to recalibrate so. I would say that the next administration regardless of party this is now a bipartisan issue. The people think we need to change our relationship with China I don't think it's binary. I don't think it is going to be all good relationship or an all bad relationship. I think we have to call out behaviors that we find unacceptable whether in cyberspace. Intellectual property theft. And the like, but that doesn't mean we can't work together on other issues where we do need to cooperate what Richard was just talking about in terms of climate change, all those issues that are in the Global Commons. We also have to have a government here in the US that wants to engage internationally and multi-laterally to be most effective in that in a relationship with the Chinese one of the areas I think we don't spend nearly enough time focusing on is for years in the technology sector. The United States played a huge role in setting international standards. If we don't continue to play that kind of a role when it comes to new technologies, whether it's quantum computing neo rules around the use of artificial intelligence We'll be vastly disservice. will do a disservice to ourself by by doing that. So I think like minded alliances, alliances of countries who see things similarly you know in terms of what we would like to see be deemed unacceptable in. It protection or a advances is the way to go in dealing with our relationship with China but not all good, not all bad and certainly not the start of Cold War. Curious. A little bit early to go on to questions I WANNA ask this question to you Jamie now. It's the one that's got the most votes from Salton. He's district leader for the seventy eighth assembly. In New York City. Many of his Muslim constituents are concerned about the ongoing genocide of Egar's in the exploitation of slave labor. How do you see that factoring into trade policy negotiations and the efforts to prevent another holocaust? There's a lot package that question and I certainly defer to others as well. You know I think one of the things we have to recognize an room saying this earlier in what is it that we stand for What are the issues that we believe we project to WHO World? That we, we will condemn others behavior if it violates standards and I think we've done less of that that we certainly did during the Soviet days when we have voice of America beaming and where we you know. Honored people who were dissidence trying to fight and have a voice, and I think we have to go back to a level of that and I would say not just in China and not with regard to the weavers. But elsewhere where we see those kinds of activities occurring as well holocaust-deniers coming back to the four a whole host of things that frankly we have not put at the forefront of foreign policy for quite some time. But I defer to others as well. It's a great question but I do want to once again turn the page. There's so many topics to get to Fran I alluded to the fact that you are coach, the task, force We're all living under this endemic we all. Have questions about response. Can you preview for us a bit on this task force report that's coming up next week Thank you had the privilege of co-chairing the Task Force with Sylvia Matthews Burwell who was the secretary of Health and Human Services under the Obama Administration and we went into the Task Force recognizing the unusual circumstance that they pandemic was going to be ongoing when we issued the report and so as much as you want to be a look at how we handled the current went how we can prepare better for the future we had to be able to talk about. what was on what was really ongoing you look at now, I'm sitting in New York City with many of our of our participants New York State is seen its first day since the infections leveled off of a thousand infections. Infection rate is up three percent children back in school and so the task for us really looked at a number of issues, right? The real the failures, what were the major failures, and that was really the testing and tracing and the. American ability to protect vulnerable vulnerable populations, minorities, the poor, the elderly and our obligation to do better by those. Those very vulnerable populations We looked internationally look China and the WHO didn't distinguish themselves but in fact that doesn't mean that we walk away from either right viewers. As Jamie points out there are issues on which we need to be able to cooperate with China live climate, for example, and the W. H. O. we ought to look to how can we participate in? It as opposed to walk away because it's a necessary global institution and I think the last one I would make in terms of the task force on. This ground pathbreaking Kovacs initiative that's an internet as one hundred fifty com countries who've come together to develop and distributive vaccine fairly and equitably, and this notion of vaccine nationalism, which we've heard a lot out of Washington is quite dangerous, right? This is one not we are much stronger when we were cooperative with our partners because after all, we're not the ones to identify developed the vaccine we're GonNa want to participate, and we don't want someone else holding it. And so we looked the task force lifted all those issues and talked about both should be doing now to help bring the current pandemic to a conclusion and how we can do in the future. Ruben Lemme Segue to Africa with you because when I asked you about foreign policy priorities there you mentioned covid response. vis-a-vis development, but also other priorities lay out for us as looking looking at. The the continent with such complexities. Where we go from foreign policy perspective. Sure. Well, let me say a few things in that regard. So first of all. You could argue that Kobe is basically been sort of like a kind of plastic jello placed over foreign policy related and that is kind of frozen a lot of things in place. Until we're able to get through all these things. So one can Kinda plausibly argue like what's on the other side of it is Richard. Said whether it's returning power competition or Jamie daughter the importance of rethinking multi-lateralism but there's been a lot of cases because we're all trying to figure this out. That's also true in Africa writ large out the good news with regard to Kobe in Africa such as it is is that it has not as yet had the same devastating pandemic impact on the confident as did say, a bull in West Africa. In two thousand fourteen or has did the AIDS pandemic in the in the in the nineteen nineties lot of theories about why the case some have been in our than others, south, Africa probably being chief amongst them. It's probably because of the relatively young population in Africa as opposed to you know people congregating in nursing homes or older older populations in Europe in. Europe in the United States so that probably bodes well for the constant on the other side of that, which then begs the question. Okay. So then what's next I think they're kind of a few things that are going to be pretty obvious. One is the continued jockeying. For influence on the continent by China and others in the second I written about this elsewhere and I feel really quite strongly about it. The United States needs to have a modern Africa policy. One, that doesn't see Africa as we did during alleged the Cold War is simply yet another place where great power politics basically. Take place without a full understanding of both the aspirations conditions on the ground. For interlocutors there and one that is not simply see Africa's a place where you know it's simply a matter of development assistance humanitarian assistance the Chinese, the Indians Israelis of all figured out how to make money through increasingly mature economic relationships on the continent and the United States behind disregard in the current administration. I, think fair enough was at least we can really say they were slow to the mark and developing an Africa policy. So slow the one can plausibly ask what I mean, what, what is it now and what the actual. Content of it could be for the remaining parts administration. Let me close by saying this in the administration which is served they had essentially four priorities for US engagement on the continent democracy and governance social issues such as health and education security partnerships and then ongoing economic trade, and those essentially bipartisan. Issues that have transcended Republican and Democratic Administration. They're pretty good ones and we need to figure out how to get back to that at adapted for the second quarter of twenty first century. Excellent thank you. I just want to turn now to questions and pointing out that this panel goes until thirty and the council has a very strict policy of ending panels on time. So I just wanted to forewarn everyone and of course, you should stay for the poll results but I'm asked to now take a question from someone who has their hands up I'm told we have dozens of people with their hands up so KRISTA. Go. Ahead. Great as a reminder to ask a question, please click the raised hand icon in your zoom window. When you're called on, accept the UN mute now button then proceed with your name affiliation. State. And question you may also submit a written question by clicking on the QNA icon and we ask that you include your affiliation and state. We also encourage you to use the thumbs up icon to vote for other questions that you would like to hear answered. We will take our first question from Brian Fonseca. Everyone. His Brian from Sekai direct the Institute for Public Policy of Florida. International. University in Miami Florida exceptional comments on a thank you wall as you might have guessed from location and of course, in the spirit of the interconnectedness of domestic and foreign policy my question has to do with American foreign policy in the Western Hemisphere Latin America hasn't come up yet that you political competition in global challenges that Richard laid out is absolutely playing out in this hemisphere even the China Tech Competition Janney pointed out. In Latin America's leaving the US and the dust. So here's my question. WILL THE RE ELECTION OF DONALD TRUMP unlock new approaches to the hemisphere particularly in areas like Venezuela Cuba where his administration has turned the troika of tyranny or would the election vice president Biden shift US policy towards the region beyond Just those key actors maybe focused on a more broader portfolio in the region after all Latin America was an important part of Vice President Biden's foreign policy portfolio during the Obama, administration? Let me hear your thoughts on that. Thank you. Jump In. I don't think any of us is in a position to say what a reelected president trump will do or what are what an elected vice awed Joe Biden would i. don't think that we don't have crystal balls. I. Think what we can do say some things about Latin America. What the Latin America that individual will will see one from the Oval Office and what he what he might WanNa do about it make the good news about Latin America is unlike say the Middle East and some other parts road geopolitics outraging I'm not worried when I get off me but I'm GonNa see a headline Chile invaded Argentine That's not that's not the threat in Latin. America the threat more than anything in has been not so much strong governments but week of. Governments to camp provides security to their citizens aren't strong enough to handle gangs and cartels that in many cases can provide a lot of the services to their citizens. One of the reasons we've seem oculus. Often on comeback was such a mention. In. Latin America Tova Nineteen is done is added whole overlay that we're seeing far more people now slip back into poverty in. Latin. America and governments are finding themselves with diminished resources facing easy to even greater. Challenges so I think wisely and to me the big questions, I, the United States is. What can we do to help governments in the region deal with a lot of these internal challenges I would love to see a major economic initiative with Latin America, a major trade initiative that's been. Missing for way too long also security initiative the sort of thing, the United States armed, with Columbia, for years to build up capacity fan about this summer job at the white. House I was among the State Plan Colombia the idea that we work with local countries to give police forces, military forces to capacity to strengthen judicial systems for strengthened the penal system. This helps countries, governments deal with their the internal demands on them so I would love to see an initiative. Along those lines for Latin America's well I'm Venezuela. I there I don't have a solution I. Don't think there is a solution right now it's certainly not military intervention. I think we can help the neighboring countries deal with a flood of refugees Colombia Brazil and others I think the the the long-term challenge there is going to be to try to influence the trajectory of that country through sanctions and incentives try to encourage certain types of behaviour discourage others or we shouldn't get ourselves. It's going to be a long difficult slog given the presence of Cuba given the Chinese given. The Russian involvement in that country. Intelligence forces security forces economically I think it's GonNa be strong extremely difficult to to dead Venezuela, to move in a direction would like to see. I'm going to alternate between. Raised hands and chat questions. So this one is the next chat question the most popular one from Cody Alan We've seen many questions whether the role of Secretary of state has become more politicised and partisan undersecretary pompey's leadership. Do you see this as a new and or worrying trend? It's gotten more than fifty boats who'd like to take it. Initial stab at that IF I may. So when I was deemed at the Elliott School of international affairs physically across the street. From the State Department. My personal office, it becomes something like a speak easy for foreign service officers. Every week somebody would come knock on my door open close the door from very junior diplomat to very senior person close the door and say you have no idea how bad it is. What were you serving in the speak easy I'd water. So. You know. At any rate I use that as a as of saying the first of all first of all, being a secretary of state is inherently political because you speak personally for the president of the United States. That's not the issue. The issue is whether or not when you are doing the business of the country around the world speaking for the president. That everybody up and down the chain for the most junior diplomat to our adversaries across the table. Can Be certain that you're speaking for a country whose interests essentially are are derived from the public interest of the country. And doing so in the context of the Constitution. Now. Here's the thing I completely respect the story on this call and much further abroad that there are many people who have different political persuasions who may think differently on this what I can tell you is that in particular. The issue surrounding Ukraine. That were adjudicated during the impeachment of the president. Had A profoundly chilling effect on the nature of our professional diplomatic core. I. Suspect also on our on our intelligence community and he saw that play out with the extraordinarily brave public servants that testified during those hearings. Who saw their oath of office as being more important than? Anything else in. So particularly as relates to to be operation the State Department under this. President. Not. A partisan comment. By the way, there have been giants of American foreign policy in the opposite party, the Republican Party that stood the value of diplomacy and negotiation and persuasion as a means of advancing America's interests in the world. Both. In of itself and also the architecture mechanics diplomacy orders to do that. and. So I quite frankly seeing just how profoundly weakened art diplomatic corps has been in the last couple of years. I have yet to be persuaded how that can be altered under the current. Administration volume bottom although I'd love to see evidence to the contrary does anybody else want to take a crack at that question? Before I move on yes judy I, just jump in in support everything that Ruben just said, but also do another bit of a commercial in addition to being the vice chair of the council. I'm also the chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee and foreign. Affairs has an article written by one of this country's premiere diplomats Bill Burns, talking about diplomacy in the state of it and one of the statistics he cited in there or he had a co author as well was that a one quarter of the foreign service officers have left since twenty seventeen and more than sixty percent of the career ambassadors and I think that just speaks to declining morale and the the real loss that we will have as a nation if that trend isn't reverse, it goes on to say that because of these losses we are now. A senior leadership of career foreign. Service. Officers that are much whiter than our country we need to get a diversity element back into that mix because so many have walked out the door of disheartened by what they've seen. Can I just add to that one thing absurd to come back to this you can't separate with Jamie just said about the being increased the the decreasing diversity in the foreign service you can't divorced at from quite frankly the very serious messages coming out of this White House. So, for example, when the president is states the entire continent of Africa and s whole. Is Hard to imagine how you can be an American diplomat particularly. American. Diplomat of color purely wasn't serving in Africa. In defendant. You just can't. Right. In particularly, as it relates to a number of others as I can say because I've had this conversation with so many. Young diplomats to include Thomas Greenfield who co author that article with with Burns. It is antithetical. To the country that we represent ourselves are to the world are of our being, and which is why I said at the beginning we have got to figure out a way to to to get back to. At a purposeful and meaningful articulation. Of An, America, that is for all of us actually really important to our projection of power brought. Anchorman, I'm going GONNA move onto the next. Hand raised question. KRISTA. Our next question comes from far GNAWS Fussy, he. Hi Thank you for having this panel on finals with The New York Times I want to ask you how you assess. The trump administration sort of unconventional policies in the Middle East from exiting the Iran, nuclear deal to moving the embassy to Jerusalem. Assassinating so we money. How do you assess that? You think it has long lasting impact beyond this administration and will a democratic administration walk any of these back. Richard would you like to take that on? My sense I will I will take on the yet again the. The the Middle East. Let me try to unpack that in a few plays. It's hard to speak about the administration's quote unquote Middle East policy and come up with one adjective that applies to. To all of it. I think it's had a couple of dimensions. Several. I think. A problematic one has been positive. Problematic Iran two thousand fifteen, Iran nuclear agreement. I'm well aware of its flaws pointed them out at the time. That's it. I think to to have left it unilaterally as we did was a mistake particularly because we didn't have something preferable to put in its place that ought to be the standard anytime you get out of something I think you've got to be confident that there is something better to substitute for it. I haven't seen it. What we've done is put in place all sorts of sanctions against Iran we've heard raw. Economically, but I think the idea of sanctions leading to fundamental changes of policy much less a change in regime is simply not realistic foreign policy strategy and now several years. Later, what we have is wrong is beginning to go beyond the. Orders, constraints of the two thousand fifteen agreement and is now closer to putting into place the prerequisites of nuclear weapons program than it was. When the administration came into office three and a half years ago. So I think that is just an objective reality and I sleep at ourselves. We saw the other day in the UN more than Ross one of the challenges through new administration to me, it's less about whether to get back into the two thousand fifteen agreements can the United States working with Europeans its? Present. They're wrong with set of choices which among other things says we would be prepared to relieve some. Some of the sanctions. Only on the condition that we extend some of the most significant limits on your nuclear program, they would have to be extended integration and obviously be verified and that to me is the directions go in rather than now I don't WanNa see rob break out of the agreement. If Iran gets nuclear weapons I, think it leads to war or at least a nuclear weapons elsewhere in the region or both, and if you thought the Middle East couldn't get worse than it already is just watch that kind of. Scenario so I. I I I think we need a new strategy. Towards wrong elsewhere the administration's intent on pulling back US forces from the region from Iraq from Syria and show for in the process. I think we've raised major questions about American reliability with Kurds. The pulling out of also from Afghanistan looks like peace agreement than it does like a withdrawal agreement I think we have to ask what does all this do for ability to push back against terrorism we shouldn't think terrorism is disappeared or. been eradicated what is the stew for confidence in the United States? Air I think we've made some progress is obviously be recent normalization of ties between the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain and Israel that is to welcome obviously but it doesn't deal with the still the when I think is the bigger challenge Israel? which is not it's normally normalization with Arab states as welcome as that is. is coming to terms with the Palestinian issue is the demographics of the Palestinians that ultimately pose a threat to Israel's long-term ability to remain a Jewish and democratic state, and that's why ultimately a two state solution is not a favor. Israel would be the Palestinians but it's a favorite. Israel will for a while and I don't think the this administration has done Israel any favor. By taking the pressure off out with coming up with a quote unquote peace plan that really is a non starter because essentially allow enormous amounts of annexation. So I think who's ever in office he's going to have to deal start next is going to have to deal with the unresolved realities of the Israeli Palestinian on impasse and the growing pressure of post by off running behavior, but it's in the region large. With. Terrorism Malaika militias but also in particular its nuclear. Richard before you leave the region though I just want to pop the question from Tom g who asked if the US cares about human rights and affecting positive change geopolitics why have both parties continued financial and political support for Saudi? Arabia does this relationship really make the world safer or more stable just briefly, and then we'll move on. It's a big question and that gets back to the question you asked Jayme. Complicated relationships, we have real issues over human rights. and. The issue is, how do we balance our our concerns there author found disagreements there at the same time not making the entire relationship contingent apartment. We can't do that with China given all of our strategic and economic concerns. We can't do that with Saudi Arabia for the same reason that is not unexcused forgiving Saudi Arabia a paths. On the human rights so I would think that an alternative administration we would look for ways by properly. Self somewhat from Saudi Arabia over Yemen rights at the same time still maintaining relationships where interest inside. I'm Chris let's take the next handrails question. Our next question comes from Dan Caldwell. Dan Caldwell from Pepperdine, university in California and I ju- ju- I'd like to compliment you clearly ah, US should have been the moderator for Tuesday's presidential scrum swallows because you've been able to maintain control over these unruly panelists Q-, it's lower bar. But my question is is for Rueben. Reuben given your education, the Naval Academy that Juju mentioned, and then your service in the navy. What role do you think the United States military should play in achieving the objectives that you mentioned as well as. The election integrity that Miss Townsend also mentioned. Well the good news. Is that they've been doing it I. I think I simply have to commend all the service chiefs. In the aftermath for example of the the killing George Floyd. They all. Put out statements about how important it is for everybody in respect of services to have conversations and to talk and listen actually sit on the task force of the chief of naval operations to think through matters of adversity in the navy and I think that data service chiefs actually kind of get it. The commandant General Burger that comment on Marine Corps band all confederate ICONOGRAPHY on every Marine Corps installation. Grover dumb. It's it and I think that General Milley. Quite. Frankly probably stung from the infamous Lafayette. Plaza, on incident. has made clear. That the military will remain apolitical. And will not be used as political pond after massive selection, and there has been some reporting through cut of unnamed sources thinking take them at their word. That there may very well be senior resignations. people prepare to break their sort over this If if if they think the military are being given orders that would cause the violate the rose to the constitution So that's all good news. The worry is one worry as well as way one worry is not only the nature of Of. Potential unrest in the street from God of ordinary citizens. But quite frankly I mean there have been. Here for my own networks of people of of veterans that are that are to work for private security firms or other sorts of things or more that are with our with the socio. Some some NGO groups not large numbers of in, but a few enough to be concerning that may be asked to participate in these sorts of ongoing concerns, and we'd have to be very, very careful about this, which is why I think it is crucial for for all of us. To make clear loud and clear to in our churches to our family groups whatever we weakened the greatest democracy of the world will not tolerate that. We just can't. and we have to be. Though, supportive, also demand accountability of our law enforcement agencies as they try to contend with this with this issue. So. Let's go to Alex Renner's question next. The biggest votes on this question from Alex from Asia Group. His question is in the event of a Biden win. What could the trump administration do during the lame duck period to set the tone for the Biden Administration's foreign policy. What potential actions would you find most concerning in that intervening period prior to the inauguration? Think a lot of us could take one I just kick it off and I. All of us have worked in transitions. This is this is an interesting question talking about it earlier today with some of our fellows, the council transitions are another example where we have traditions. Of norms, there's historical precedent, but there's very few rules much less launch. Scenario than discretion now historically if you recall. Was Forty fifty years ago we reduced the length of the transition. President used to be. Come into office until March, we moved back to January in order to shorten the period by by two months or so in order to reduce the scope or this travel would sped up, we no longer needed to get people that amount of time but this. Imagine we have clarity sometime by mid or late November that still means than we're facing virtually too much. In which a lot can be done particularly in the realm of we're talking about here today in foreign policy president, Chavan nervous discretion. When have a lot of attention to be given domestically to things like the pardon power presidents can give pardons, awards and all sorts of other things. Made a Supreme Court. Appointment, and so forth. But in foreign policy, a lot of things is. negotiations getting out of certain things particularly things that were brought about in the first instinct first. Instance. So I think that's a difficult a mackinaw minimized I think it's. It's a dicey period because. We. One thing obviously Mr trump which would be reelected and it's just continuity. and. The question is how interpreted reelection as a mandate what he decided to do it is that set of challenges but if it were to be a rotation, go to Mr by then the real question is. Administration could do quite a lot. against Iran if the chose to do against a North Korean presidents have enormous discretion to use military force. To pull out of agreements and so forth and there I. Think we're we're in a we're in air without clear historical precedent. Give reason why Mr Trump you may log less. You may hate this depending upon your ears. But whatever else he is departure if you look at every post world. War. Two President beginning with Harry Truman through Barack Obama. What they had in common was far greater than what distinguished. They're all playing the game if I may say roughly around midfield, maybe within the Forty Yard Lodge Donald Trump is not. So I think we have to accept the possibility that he would be willing to use the spirit to leaving infant to build a legacy to create facts for news success and in the realm of foreign policy, he would actually how significant scope to do it. Can I add something of that Juju? We have I mean Richard Reid the president trump is playing An opportunity forty, our lives, maybe the same field. Here's another distinction between the president. We never had a president of the United States who was personally in-depth the to four hundred plus million dollars to to creditors yet unknown. And that is in it of itself. There's nobody else in the United States of America possibly get a security clearance without level of debt. It is inherently is security risk. In. So I think there is a very real question. If the president trump is not reelected how about how he could be personally vulnerable because of vet debt. In ways that could quite frankly continue to be a serious concern for American. National security particularly relates to various aspects of our intelligence community in sources and methods. I think it's a it's a real worry. Many commentators said that he would have had a hard time getting a security clearance. With that I want to go to the next hands up question Krista our next question comes from Stephanie Stapleton. I'm Stephanie Staple. I'm a PhD student at Kennesaw State University in Georgia I'm studying international conflict management in my question hits at a lot of what Richard has said about nuclear weapons. So I focused my research on. international arms control agreements. We've seen a lot of those fall under the current administration. So I'm curious where in the future to UC arms control constraints come in with against a lack of American leadership. So how does the world respond? How does the US respond? To the growing threat of the proliferation of dangerous weapons. Did you to take the first crack at this retraint? You hear a I I will say. As Richard said about presidents. Of each party plane inside the forty yard line on proliferation it's a perfect example of one of those topics You know the control of nuclear materials and weapons was a huge priority. We started that nuclear threat initiative and the Bush administration. It was seamlessly picked up by the Obama administration and run further down the field. and. So on. Many of these issues, traditionally presidents of both parties we'll pick and choose cyber was another one just to give you an example of an initiative and National Initiative started under one administration and handed off to the next I don't think with this. What we've seen with this president is that you can. Assume that. He will give the same level of attention detailer priority to it And there evidence of that and the real question I think I think this is one what direction arms control policy an proliferation policy goes in is very dependent on comedy election. Two things if I might. Let's let's divides a good question. Let me divide it into two realms want. So called vertical proliferation one is horizontal vertical is dealing with the inventories that exists say the United States and Russia in particular as I said in February this the question, what do we do about events to expire new start agreement I would hope we would extend it. But then even if we do down the road, there's there's two big questions. One is new weapon systems that weren't covered by that agreement technologies dynamic. How do we deal with that? Secondly to what extent we may be expanded as China's inventory grows to what extent is bilateral arms control. Become trilateral, multilateral ostrich also I think he's ever president who's going to have to deal with the technology as well as the structural conversation, and then in the horizontal proliferation, we've already alluded to one, which is what do you do about Iran which is now closer than it was to get into a dangerous. The other I mentioned that I think before North Korea. there's a long history of dealing with North Korea, whether it's threats whether it's incentives what have diplomacy and so far nothing has worked. North Korea continues to progress down that road in the question still going to greet the the new president what do we do? About the fact that North Korea now has dozens and dozens of nuclear weapons. Missiles of increasing range and accuracy increasing. Number. Increase essentially posing now a direct threat to the to the United States what are we going to do about that? So these these horizontal proliferating challenges are getting more acute at the same time I. do think we're going to face some very big questions particularly what to do about Russia and on the side China. Richard Prior to the point that once an arms control analysts always arms control analysts, I apologize. I loved that we heard from a PhD students though. So let's hear from a medical student. Probably for Fran Rob Bloom is a medical student Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia and asked what do you see as the future for global medical engagement by the US with organizations such as the World Health Organization and other countries to prevent future global health challenges How would this answer have been different nine months ago? So. Look I think that are experienced in the current pandemic has pointed out the vulnerability of a lack of cooperation in international standards. It's also pointed out when you see the failures on the part of the WHO the weaknesses in that system. But that Oughta tell us that an underscore the need to strengthen the international system not walk away from it. Right? We would. If you step back from from the current pandemic and ask yourself if we had walked away imagine we had walked away from W. H. O. Not now host the outbreak of the pandemic but before would we have been better served the answers positively not despite their their? Fault we need a strong whol. We need a strong international regime. You'll see when the task force releases its report, an October eight. There are examples international cooperation resulted in a place like South Korea meeting, basic international standards, and they were far more effective than testing tracing than any other country, and that was a result of their preparation pursuant to international standards. And so I think too often we hear rhetoric that suggests you know international standards means lowest common denominator and I think it's misguided right? Because what it does is it raises the bar for everybody and to the extent other countries are better prepared we in the united. States. Better protected I don't think we're doing good enough job of explaining why that's so important. And I hope people will take bad lesson at least from the from the Task Force report I'm Ruben Viking put you on the spot briefly take your foreign policy had offers second put your university had a hat on and and give a sense of how Kobe is playing out on campus. True. will learn to go back and get to that. So my wife is actually an ICU position. and before we moved here to Tennessee, she spent six months on the frontline Kobe response at a hospital in the Washington DC area and for her and colleagues whose was. Of Combat. Still ads for those that are still badly treating so many others and so as not to that it's it's incomprehensible to me that as a country we waited frankly. To respond rapidly when we saw was happening I in China and across Europe they even here in the United States neither part parts of the country Ryan right now the south waited while we saw what was happening up in New York and the in also in Seattle as if somehow the virus will treat. Differently the the the pathogen treats diplays Americans than visit. Italian. Treats northerners if. It's all the same which gets back to France point that we are all better off. When we collectively addressing these sorts of public health problems here at the University of the South, you've actually been very fortunate in that we have. A partnership with the lab in Chattanooga that allows us to test our entire student body population once a week and having individual results back within six hours of administering the test. And that has been. Not Reasons one is that it has been absolutely essential for our being able to open and remain open. We're now halfway through the semester with a positivity rate of about zero point one, two percent. And it all goes back to testing and tracing. Point Right. We are the United States of America. We put people on the moon. Right? We're the home of Jay Z, and beyonce's like we created the Ifo pick your thing right? Like they're all these things we've been able to you. We can't figure this out even when other countries out we have got to get our act together on this fourth Task Force. The council is out. Joseph for. Thank you for that Krista let's go to our next hands up. Question Our next question comes from mobile. Accept the on Mute Button. To my name is Mojo. Wonderful. Romance. Of Political Science I'd Brooklyn College, City University of New York and I live in Brooklyn. New York. i. just wonder what if the grand strategic? Should be for the next administration in terms of foreign policy. And also recovering America's I think it'd be. Tired image in the. World. What's the trump three routines that you would recommend for the next administration? Jamie Lee I'm tossed that to you. The Grand Strategy and the the big. The big priority. We have the intelligence person doing policy I. Love It. You know I think we have to under, we have to come into our foreign policy understanding truly what strategic national interests are, and we have to have a longer term view of it. Then we tend to take. So you know what is our long term strategy vis-a-vis our interests in Asia our interests with China our interest as we just discussed in the Middle East. So that's kind of priority one we have to. Know, what we want and what we're worried about number two is we have to be ready for the challenges that we're going to be presented with, and we can't put our head in the sand. Ignore them pretend they're not there and some of them are easy anticipate. You will have major changes of leadership probably in Iran with the supreme leader in. Saudi. Arabia with the king in what will that mean for us and? Bird we have to do is we were talking about earlier understand what it is we want to stand for and I think that is very different between the two potential administrations either a continuation of the trump administration or a new biden administration. But the one thing I would caution a new Biden administration on would be to not make the mistake that. You'RE GONNA pick up where you think you left off for years ago the world has changed it has moved on. There are all of these experts who are advising the new potential new administration but they need to be dealing with twenty twenty vision looking forward not from where they left off for years ago and I think that's that's a danger. not only has the world moved on, but their view of us has changed dramatically even our allies are not as likely to want to follow a US lead or trust a US, a commitment as much as they would have been ten or twenty years ago I. Think we also need to keep that in mind when we're coming up with that. Strategy for our foreign. Policies. Junior, can I say one or two thousand dollars? Lot. Of course I always ask. I never shut you down. Richard. Let me just go nowhere Jamie on grants. Let me suggest might be two ways to think about Grand Strategy Wonders what we were the ends and the that means I would think with the great powers particularly with Russia and China what we need a relationship Janey said they're not all or nothing relationships we need to figure out where we push back where we can be yet. We don't want to preclude areas of limited cooperation where it serves inches. That won't premium on diplomates. Easier said than done to design and execute such a relationship that's what we need, and then secondly, we've got a narrow the gap between global challenges and the mechanisms in place to deal with them. Fran. was talking about health being on with climate change with digital with collaboration. Every dimension of International Relations Right now is this large gap between global challenges and the global institutions. In place we've got our gap all of the snow will require I think two things. Two things that we do one is we've got to do it with others can't do this unilateral. The idea that the United States can simply impose its will that we have necessary capacities as simple cloud our raw. And second of all. Intruding alluded to before, we do have to put our domestic house in order. We are simply not going to have the bandwidth as a country to play a larger international role unless we sort out some of our domestic. Issues you gotTA figure out a way to deal internationally at the same time that we improve domestically one other point and it's been a threat in this conversation I think we've also got to figure out that middle ground where we stand for principle, we stand for our values, but we cannot transform the world and make it in our image when we tried to do that in the middle. East Ran. Into A buzzsaw. So we have to some extent deal with the countries that exist we can't make our goal with China overthrow the Communist Party of China as the Secretary of State amount of House of Representatives, the Republicans in the house seemed to want to do. We've got to deal to some extent with the world that is and then nudged it in the right direction rather than try to transform. Excellent so I'm going to. Just be mindful of the clock we have about four minutes left, and then I wanNA give the end results of the poll and in those form when it's I'm GonNa, give you two questions. That are very dense and then you can answer than both. We're trying to address them. One is from Williams. Then I'm retired Sullivan and Cromwell State Department legal adviser. underbush. Forty one that was his full disclosure He says when I compare Obama Biden and trump foreign policy records I find trump's much more successful Middle East Iran Syria Libya North Korea China Iraq Afghanistan, Russia etc whether or not you disagree to what extent does Biden get credit blamed for the Obama Foreign Policy or how much should one consider Bob Gates his observation that Biden has never been right on a major foreign policy issue. And then Joel Hicks asked a good question to which is if there is any possibility to return to us led multinational institutions to address global challenges in the future, I know they're two giant questions and we have three minutes left. So whoever would like to take it jump in? Let me start by noting the ED. Williams. is a proud graduate of the university self and. I love it. The I mean look. Here's the thing I think that The president was elected impart on a particular vision of the World America First and and that doesn't just mean that we're going to be looking after I just as every country looks after they're just the question is whether or not ready to be bringing other countries long and the extensive, which we're actually articulating a set of values going forward in so to your point. If, you think that the nature of what the president has done with guards at NATO or leaving the Afghans to their devices or or or or what we did with the guards are curtis allies. In Kurdistan one thinks those are all positive things than you have your answer for the election. I don't but I'm just got in. So I think that it's probably worth are asking You know again I I must prefer foreign policy that it tends to be more that they could have a greater degree of bipartisan consensus. Think it gets Jamie's point is that the rest of the world is learning that they can't count on us in important ways and we have got to figure out a way to kind of get back to a foreign policy to sustainable over multiple administrations. I'd love thoughts from as many of you before we go to the poll. Let. Me Say this I. Mean I understand the tone of the first question right because I think it's oftentimes difficult to divorce the person and the policies, and so I think there is some frustration among the president understandable frustration line the president's supporters that even when he does something positive or good. GET CREDIT FOR IT. I will tell you Zulu in early question brought up Sumani. And as Jamie can attest for decades since going back as far as Beirut bombing multiple administrations, you have used the intelligence community in the FBI to target him. This is nothing new. This was not at all you need to the trump administration and so look there are there are somethings he has done in the audited credit for it and many rubens voice that region we can not be pleased at a multi nationals is sort of answered that earlier. I think I think their strength in that cooperation but I, think it's going to require straightening those institution. Now. Just elway in quickly. To. Take. North Korea's in example I. Think. It's worthwhile to have opened a dialogue and I, think there's credit to be given on that. Do I think that the dialogue has led to results? You know not if you look at what? I think it was Richard who referenced The Washington Post Story Talking about the growth of North Korea's. Missiles in nuclear stockpile during this timeframe, but you know starting the conversation probably a good idea. Excellent richer. Can you be brief? Saddest though you're skeptical about the answer. My experience, vice president for the most part influence but then CEPA foreign policy their administration. So I think one can look at how Mr Biden is loaded bass think you ought to be Looked at what he advised not necessarily what the Obama Administration did. For example, he favored the provision of arms to Ukraine something this administration did unlike Barack Obama, who opposed it More important I think if he is elected will be facing a different world than one has to ask him. What he'd be prepared to to do about it, and since I'm an optimist shirt, there's an enormous potential role for the United States in in in leading a multinational responses to global challenges. Indeed, it won't happen otherwise there's no one else can fill our show choose and leave, and there's no way we can do it unilateral elaborate. So if there's a happy answer when one looks at the future, it will only come about with collective effort that the United States participation and more often than not. I have to say I'm encouraged by the number of people who are still with us the participants number well, over a thousand it just shows the interest and the intensity of the interest in foreign policy in this election cycle let's go to the poll results because I want to see where we landed at the end of our discussion I can't thank our panelists and not out your your we're we're supposed to retake it. I knew that so does this change your position at all about? When considering whom you, support. What is the biggest foreign policy challenge and how much emphasis should the? US have. Let me start by reminding everyone that this conversation was on the record and will be posted to the website on to the Carnegie Corporation Thank you to each and every one of the panelists who provided such context and perspective and experience a wealth of it. And when we have the poll results we'll share them hopefully soon, Richard any closing thoughts for you we have we have less than two minutes. I'd like to thank the moderator. Her doing this and she has late night duty most nights of the week with on nightline. My three college we'd like to the people. Who came into the meeting for your your interest and really all do think of us as a resource my ass I mean Foreign Affairs magazine, Foreign Affairs Dot Com and see afar dot org what we do on a website. Well, what we're trying to do day in day out, provide context, provide analysis, provide background on these challenges and I think what we've learned is that they met. Out. Nothing stays foreign for long nothing stays local law whether it's terrorism or wars or Computer viruses or physical viruses or climate change it all comes here. So we've got to have a farm policy in the United States that's engaged the. World and as Thomas Jefferson said, unfortunately, he couldn't be with us today but is he said democracy depends on an informed citizenry What we are committed to to help him more Morgan's get better informed about this world. That's her worse will in fact, will affect lives. And the results are still rolling in, they're beginning to plateau. And you see that now seventy five percents believe that it's a big factor in their decision climate change I think ticked up a little bit. On, the results forty, four percent say climate change is the number one foreign policy criteria and how much emphasis should the USA a great deal more is the overwhelming consensus Once again, I am grateful to everyone who took part. In today's panel and to the staff at Afar who are incredible at the logistics behind the scenes and thank you so much and I hope that this helps. Inform you as you head to the about box in November be well, everyone.

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"<music> the fantasy we focus baseball podcast here your hosts Tristan Cock Roth and Eric Era Bell. That's right. It's fantasy focus baseball beautiful Thursday morning August first two thousand nineteen August different right. Yes cut calendar what what pictures on your calendar. It's a big month factually Ashley Fantasy Not Fan- fantasy baseball of course but fantasy football. This is when most of the drafts are going to be held. It's like I was thinking of fantasy football the other day talking to people Mike it's only July. Can we wait till August August August fantasy football draft. You've got to have it like ten minutes before the first kickoff. You need to have all the news. It's like baseball. Come on and of course we've got you covered with all the fantasy football stuff you could possibly need whether it's editorial when the podcast which starts going daily next week check out our APP as well. Do your draft anyway. He's tristen. 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I'm sure you use the proper APP or whatever to get the tickets and from seek and he was he was wearing a Turkey leg T. shirt which by the way is way too tight. Okay Yeah you really should awe drought but like you know revealing and we miss your he throwing bar it. Was this one from like a Turkey leg eating contest. I think he lost. We all laws further record here. The shirt is not too small. It's that I'm just just too big or whatever you know tomatoes tomato anyway. There's a picture I'll tweet it out later of him devouring a Turkey leg which was really big. That is the biggest Turkey leg. I've seen scene you get into. That was really good. I'm impressed and I'll tell you that is that is the king of Turkey from Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia the Bulls Barbecue and man. I mean like I was done with my little pulled pork sandwich and then you start fifteen minutes left of your Turkey. We missed all inning anyway. Is that great. He's all use the good for them. <hes> Jose or creedy did not pitch well yesterday. I'm sure I'm saying his name wrong but I'm not doing it purposely. I think between him and Aaron Sanchez what's going to happen there. Is there or anything here in a deep fantasy league or Ale only yes because the astros as I wrote the other day. Do you have a very good August schedule so it's an opportunity for whichever of these two is in the rotation. Now I do think it's going to be Aaron. Sanchez I feel like and Sanchez has been a terrible pitch or one of the worst and all of the game for the entirety this year. We're up till now. I think Houston might have seen something in them. They have brought in a lot of reclamation. Projects Wade Miley being the most recent example. He's having a very good year. I don't think many many people at all expected anything from him. Why can't they fix Sanchez. They could have seen something in the scout in that they can tweak fix and he can give you some good production going down the road. I love him as an ale only add a stash. What about that gallon leaving Miami for Houston for Arizona. I assume he's in the rotation now so it was Mike leake but we don't want Mike leak that down. What do what are you making him. The ceiling isn't high but the floor is and I like that the main problem with this is that he was calling home one of the best pitcher's venues and that I think eases any of the sting of adapting to major league play also with the Marlins and their competitive state. I think the pressure was very low. Take him out of that park. which by the way was the best for pitchers best in all of baseball pitchers put them into Arizona even with the humidor? It's still raining as one of the more hitting friendly environment so I think he's really just a streamer Zack Greinke. You're Trevor Bauer the rest of the season Gretzky but it's close isn't it. It is why because I'm not so I would say cranky now and going to that team that mark but trevor bowers that are not not as good as seasons last year obviously but as you note here would not facing the central this season to fifty five year one point zero eight whip. He says he's that with injuries. Maybe healthy now maybe he's not but I mean he's going to give some home runs the Cincinnati but he's also facing some Pittsburgh's offense and the whole the vision who's got a great offense the concern I have with Bauer. Is that if you look at his splits let's. He's played to the competition. He tends to bring his best when he's facing the tough teams. The winning teams the competitive teams so you can't look at this as a straight matchups type. There's nothing into Glean from that at all he actually had some of his worst numbers against Detroit Kansas City and the white sox so that concerns me a little bit that when when you throw them into the National League league now that there's no benefit by facing these weaker teams he's probably GonNa play up to the cubs and the cardinals and the like the league switch so Eric Eric. I WanNa talk to you about the leaks which are low because I think it impacts these two. I was very surprised to learn that the two leagues or performing relatively close in all categories offensively this year including the pitchers pitchers in the National League and not only that there have been more strikeouts in the American league this year if you take the pictures and the D. H. is out of that and you kind of balance the rest of the lineups so to me. I actually think rickie might have gotten at least a bump compared to our. I don't know the power's going to gain a lot by going to the National League. It's not significant enough that I put him ahead of Cranky. I agree I agree with that and pictures aren't even going that deep and National League Games so pinch hitters are coming up instead of them for the third time they come up so it's the difference in the League is never been a small since the D. H.. Right I'd have to check every year to make sure I'm not missing one but it is unusually close. I was very surprised to see it and as a matter of fact the National League has been the the pretty noticeably Superior Superior League when you extract the Pitchers D. H.. which that's a surprise it was more noticeable the difference taking those out than if you kept them in <hes> in terms of what the A._L. had ahead of the N._o.? Are I look at some of the hitters now yes yep and friend mill rasco to Cleveland in the Bauer trade deals basis. That's the difference with even Fran Mill <hes> and also maybe temperaments a little different but for him it was on his way to forty home runs as I predicted back in March. I love go pat yourself on the back back a little gotten there yet so I can't yet. I'll ask you tweet versus Frem. Who would you rather have the rest of the season. I think it's worth asking I think it's worth asking. I feel obligated. We're here to pick week because as you mentioned the stolen basis what I wonder though is that he did get green lights a little bit more than normal in Cincinnati. Is that going to happen under Terry Francona Kona. I wonder whether he'll see a few more red lights than usual and that brings them a little closer together. Yeah I would say that that's interesting as well and I think they're going to bat like four or five six somewhere around. There were Jose Ramirez one before him. Maybe one protecting him something like that the teams they left behind. What are we saying fantasy because often. It's not about the players trade. It's about WHO's left behind. Will Myers is a winner in the San Diego outfielder. I doubt Taylor Trammell plays this season in the majors. I think yeah yeah now. We'll Myers is doing nothing. I mean he's twenty twenty guy guests but are you in on terminal for the Dynasty Leagues that I think it's important ask because here for Powell had year. I mean I know he's got the plate discipline and he can still basis and they can play center field so things that we don't care about as much fantasy maybe but if he's going to be men while more go like guy. He's probably better than that. I mean he's GonNa hit ten home. Runs is my question what if he's Ramon Laureano except with the ceiling a little bit higher than twenty outfielder Buehler right. I think that there is a path that this could be what he is and I feel like the padres made a statement here that they are all in on Taylor Hermel. So that's that's of interest to me clearly are because they traded it. All how just one player back and Cincinnati's outfielder I think Josh van meter's now a regular player and you might say who cares but second base is open right field is open. I think Josh van meters kind of interesting. I Fill Bourbon should play a lot more to but I'm watching van meter. I wish I had spent a buck on him in labor which I'm watching. I like where you're going in this direction. They'll probably mix'n'match obit. I'm I'm an urban guy all right so between Formula Nicholas Casts Janos ranked them so you already said tweet over race this Kosciusko over either or neither I don't know I think I rank them third here. How deep am I gonNa Push Castanos Down. He was twenty nine in my most recent update and I feel like if I threw route thirty. Eight is the number that's about right. That's probably behind both of them. They have to be a presumption here that because he's on a contending team now. He'll be motivated hit better. I mean we're assuming the reason he was having a great year for four months because he was slog down by the mess around him in Detroit but is that the case what if he's just not as good as we thought never really had that monster season season and now it's Chicago isn't going to bat like six or at best or the role is really the question. I mean figure where custody fits into this team team. They like to mix and match Joel Madden thing. That's a cubs thing. They liked to rely on defense defense. There was an even game the year they won and now he's you get you can't play third base ace and you really can't play right field so I guess he's improved right field but are they going to just play them every day anyway. The point is like if you're saying to me like castle versus frame the rest of the year. I guess we're both rostered in every league but I don't think this is a guy I really want to like. I guess only a bit on whoever coming comes over <hes> I think people are going to overbid. I think that's that were endangered. Overbidding I and I you know I like Huseinov's as a player. I see those metrics and I want to make the case that he's number one of these three outfielders. I think it's a trap. Don't think it's the best fit for him and the metrics have been very good. I got a point out. There's another guy at great metrics. A couple of years ago people talked up Randall Grischuk. It hasn't happened yet. Sometimes it just doesn't happen and that could be the case here. You're gonNA laugh at me but CASSIANO versus Adam duvall rest of the season Casio's but I attack took a flyer divall after we discussed him right. I've got him everywhere and I'm telling you I yes. You have to say the word Castanos here but I'm not so sure your you know now. It's a fair point. I'M NOT GONNA I wouldn't I'd have a hard time fighting on this all right there you go. 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Yeah I mean check out on twitter to see exactly what the result was only four teams the Tigers in two thousand and two of the last team to have an entire month without a safe and it's not like they blew saves saves they they only won four games the entire month now. That's not Shane Greens fault and he's GonNa get tons of safe chances with the braves. They're really good second best team in the National League but man I mean you gotTa get if you're in an Oli boy. I am scared like Shane Green Versus Hector Narus which you might think that's a joke Eric Harris's terrible and Shane in Green as a one point something era who take yeah yeah I you you have to say green but you don't want to do I yeah and the next thing I think is who is setting them up. Who's going to deliver them the ball and a save chance Sean Nukem I do too? I think it's the phillies nothing green but yeah to your point I agree and by the way hecker narrows will not be getting saves for the next three days because he's serving his suspension. God only knows who will get the chance if they have one out of more than yesterday and it's like here hit this one over the fence is Pablo and he did and I honestly I don't know who's going to get the save who could possibly Blake Parker might literally in his first appearance with the team gets yes the safe Jan Rutta also wasn't too hot to owners or walk. We were watching the game there and he two homers the first three batters as pinch hitters so I mean the phillies have a clear bullpen problem and it did not get solved by picking scrappy speaking of wishes we buried late on that one but lots of suspensions coming down tweaked. You'll get a couple of games doesn't seem fair bill. How is he still in the game like if you're Cleveland? Aren't you calling tonight. Get him out. Get Him out of the game that was really a wild forty five minutes or so just following the mechanics of that trade and then that that Bra that's one of the crazies solve two decades Garrett. I he's not on any fancy teams but man that has got to be a long time and anyway other pitchers here. Let's okay lots of but save save situations did change even though there weren't that many trades so let's get into that ever so briefly are you. I'll say I am and you tell me if you are too two. I have now avoiding the potential situations in Detroit. I think it's show him as I don't want Johann that effectively as a matter of fact the guy behind him. I'll say his name properly buck farmer if you say that three times let's go watchdog. We've got here. We're going to say his name once once and one time only. He's proud that I said properly Tom. Do Your job very careful. Don't so the first thing you'll say for too many players so we're just going east Afam yes so him and has the guy but I'm going to view him. As the way I do like the way I was viewing ruin his Elliot's the Seattle I yeah you'll get a good. That's a good value putting ladling the price point now Seattle Michael with Anthony Baths or Sam to Villa UH. I don't know I mean they could also go with Austin Adams when he gets healthy. There's interesting guys but it's all speculative and it's down uh-huh. I am avoiding Seattle and Miami I guess at least we know who it is but man. That's a Miami there is what are you thinking Charlene Garcia do you you think it's Tehran Guerrero who doesn't know where the ball's going when he throws hard. He's a hard thrower so that's a possibility down the road. He's hardly he knows where it's going thrower. That's the problem I I I actually think there is a path for Ryan stanic to step up as the closer. I'M NOT GONNA put a big announcement there. That's a good point. He just got traded there that I hadn't thought of that House Way Davis still still closing now. He hasn't blown a save like six weeks but I mean isn't it read home. Games is eleven point zero nine for the season six point eight to the dodgers was like please. He's coming the game yesterday. Please and they hit two homers off that I might even dump Wade Davis in a standard. This is greater than the number of minutes. It took me to eat that Turkey leg. That's a problem. Oh it's it's like trip for most relievers in baseball yeah come on that's saying I eat them quickly. Whip bigger than is bigger than over the I._R._A.. More saves wrestling your Taylor Rogers Archie Bradley ooh great question. <hes> don't save on Monday night lesson that happened with seven or more games. Come on the intern tweeted out. He's not listening to like. He listens later or tomorrow but but I thought the phone what's wrong with you. Boy Today might be the daytime that you actually have to do something. Okay Buck Armor. I say confidence I can read ads. I could say set up in a three another no for me in this assumes the health of the Guy Ahead of and Ken Giles didn't get traded Toronto out if when he's entered out yeah I'm going to include them with Seattle and Miami. The schedule says that on E._S._P._N.. Plus today Thursday Tampa is recalling Brennan Brennan McKay Yup you face Andrew Cash ner now you might think why do I care well. McKay is one of the top pitching prospects and enter casher. I don't trust them but maybe you do so your thoughts on these pitchers recipe because we can't avoid everybody and when Mackay's should be good but not today at fenway and Kastner with that offense behind him I mean he could Portillo his way into twelve wins. I don't know I am as a verb. Now I like it. Yes <hes> but I don't like enter cashing out the pitch to contact nature. He has which we mentioned at the time of the trade is an issue issue and the regression has shown the three starts as a red sock. He barely qualified for the quality start in his most recent outing the other two fell short. Who are you Rostro in between Danny Salazar Oren Brennan McKay neither today mccay mccay yeah? I don't know that Salazar has the durability here to work workup to a meaningful count yeah workload down the road. I would agree with that. It's possible he helps you big time in September but it's a real wide range Friday night on E._S._p._N.. Plus the padres and the dodgers late at ten ten PM Eastern Time Eric Lower. You'd really don't want your fancy. Lee and Dustin may making his Major League debut and this guy is fun. Look at his hair and he's good too yep so I can say doesn't may versus Chris panic the rest of the year and I might take may having not seen him because I trust the dodgers <music> I trust their home ballpark and he's not going to be on these limit like paddock is that these are good points and if they could lock him into an equal number of starts. I'm on board with you. I'm not sure what their long term plans for this year. This could be like last year where they snuck in a couple of the prospects for spot starter three and that's all you get that said these are rookies people. Oh I like him now. The good very good prospect very good prospect but rookies they break hearts and are inconsistent especially when when their pitchers is be careful here like I said you Chris Archer sure Dustin may if you WANNA drop archer to pick him up I have no problem with that but using them every time he pitches. That's another thing you know so. Let's see what he does on Friday night who knows he might not. You're right. You might not get another start. I I want to ask you this John Gray. I Home Jon Snow on Saturday against San Francisco. He shuts out the dodgers earlier earlier. This week didn't go the distance but he pissed great. I feel I got the trap. That's an obvious trap against a bad San Francisco offense. You trust strong grade home well I must. He's got eight thousand more doesn't he. He actually leads every pitcher always Easter. I can't believe that you know the pitching leaders are in our producer. WHO's leaving now anyway and probably cause of this prediction is going to hate this but Mike minor leads all pitchers and be ward? Let's say he's pitching real well since we had this discussion cyber last night you're saying it's a fact he leads the major Lawrence cy young to. I'm just saying you can't wait one fact. Who would you say Oh yeah? That's that's true to its how quickly forget I'm not saying that is good but he leads everybody in war. Okay elite Sherzer. He Lever Lander He leads Garrett Cole in war are using John Grand Saturday. You're going to say yeah AH I see your point here. Trust them cores and the giants have shown some punch lately. They've also shown a couple of days. I'd say in the past as ten or so where they don't show up so I lean towards the I hear. I don't feel great about it but I feel like I am by push one that cy young. I gotta be clear that you're right right. You're right up in here and now we're going back to Detroit's settlement anyway next. It's buck farmer Tristan. I don't know why you have a problem with this. Why does anybody anybody else trump tweets ever properly every time you're wanting me to? I could put an Internet if you'd like me to yeah. I want you to sprinkle it. In the later. One I go buy tickets on seek to watch buck farmer. Please do it Sunday night baseball on E._S._P._N.. Check out a rod and J. Lo and the whole gang David price versus J. APP that should be fun final score twelve ten yes or no oh God well Dan prices pitching terribly and people are really using thing him. He's he's almost single-handedly ruining my points league. My Points League team and this is the thing the Yankees Red sox games. Are you're right. There's the story and it's not it's nothing to do with London. It's like they brought that stadium back with them. I I'm out. I'm both about out well. Price won't have to face Luke voight. Let me ask you ever so quickly because I've glossed over this on my note and I wrote about this today in the blog that I'm sure Tom's working up right now injured players final L. Two months. It's August now. How long do you wait? You keep Joey Gallo. You keep Blake snail. Keep Luke void. What are you doing here as a guy who wins always leaks I tonight? I'm at in the standings this year. I'm in striking distance. Focus your common my oh goodness. I tend to get more pessimistic as the year goes on and you know I challenge you a lot about this idea that teams that aren't competitive. We're GONNA shut down their injured. Players Eight is relevant relevant. I don't think that it's a cut and dry where everything goes in that direction but I think it's increasingly likely that happened so if you got to cut them you need the spot do it. When I hear the Rangers say we hope Gallo plays in September? I'm like I'm moving on Snell. There obviously contender I think he comes back in mid-september well. They need him. That's a different story than story luke avoid. They just need them in October right voice out until mid to late September right where you and I differ on this one I think is that I do believe teens find value in getting being an injured player back on the field if he is ready to do so just to get some reps before the year ends Oakland Needs Ramon Laureano and so to my fantasy team. I think he's back late eight August. I would try to keep him lorient or Gallo. I'm keeping Laureano. I mean I. I don't think either makes the cut here and I think you'd cut <hes> yeah. I think he's I think you're going to have you're going to need that spot for something better. I think make sure pitches in two weeks and if that might be the guy you have in which case oriental by really good man. He's like the number twenty hitter for the season on the play writer for the keeps up well. Why would it not right? I mean I assume when he comes back Oprah's not doing unless he's ready ready to go you think maybe he won't steal base because he has shin injury. I'm thinking well. He's he's a star. He's doing the best that he possibly possibly could. He's got the injury. There's the risk that even when the player comes back afterwards and at this stage if there if a Come on glad insult to injury. 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I remember yeah that's why you popped up with a monster all right anybody have any questions many questions based on some of the conversations we've had today around buck farmer farmer but spenser Lord Buck farmer Tristan say it's just intimidating Eric. It's not that it's a hard name to say. It's intimidate got my finger permanently on the dump button the clash Oh man we're all going out of slaves. That's one way to go well the football she'll pick me up to. I don't know if they'll have me back if we let go by but I do write a weekly fancy basketball com tom can attest to it may not be good but it does get posted number. One great number one pick is Maurice Cheeks. Interesting is a little bit and Sedale three three in round four pack. You'll be available barrows around ten. Even though I've never heard of these guys I will read this column. If your finish lines with things like he writes sarcastically sarcastically he left that into I love that in Marion added on that one all right well ask a question yeah sponsor chimes and he's on the twitter machine. He wants to know which struggling star this season do you think will be the most value come next offseason aw man. Where do we go with this? No names to contrast opened pretended he wants all the advice you can get from league winners like you guys I mean they're GonNa Challah Alan League winner Kristen's League winner. I just got outbid for Jose or quitting. Are you kidding. I know who it was. You know what I should have told him he wouldn't even notice it wasn't me no. You're not even paying attention that lead but by the way don't ever make trade your last place just leaving all their you wanNA bring up now. I dare you to trade I'm going to we're GONNA put that twitter. Poll now is a bad offer but like you're cutting the guy anyway all right points league. What what should I ask for for Chris Sale? If I'm rebuilding tell me what I should be looking at a dollar I can't trade you Lord escorial for Chris Sale and you might think that's crazy but I'm not I should be doing that in a heartbeat. I don't know that would do it but if you were that in a heartbeat our lord scorer yell for all dollars. That's what I like well. Oh that's who it is. I'm like I'm in second place in this league but I'm a thousand points back at a Guy Wind my point about this was not a superstar having an amazing. He's not a franchise chip for you that you would. You cannot possibly believe he's a franchise chip. I need guy. I know I'm keeping I know I would keep him. That was my point. You wouldn't keep a two hour score. You know it I just said I would. I'm saying that for you. The the thing that makes sense here is that if he is not a franchise chip for you and he's not a piece you need absolutely right now. You've got to trade him for a player who's better even if he's a rental you might need them. I don't know I haven't look I think the guy in first place by thousand points yeah he's real and I think I think Chris Sale would only change that a little bit so instead of using by fifteen hundred dollars by thirteen hundred. I want to play for a second. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA try but I mean it's. It looks like it's over right discussion of as to what you you should be the rental versus the future building trade is and I don't. I don't believe I would keep the prospect. You're offering me okay. That's fine fine so who's bouncing back next year. I mean Jose Ramirez the obvious guy but he's already bouncing back from now like I'm trying to think here if we could see the average draft fibers live drafts but it's not posted up a couple of for you like who I wrote about this the other day. There's somebody that know Mitch Haniger. Everybody's he's GonNa Forget about Mitch Doniger next year. He's probably not coming back to Seattle this season. I mean like maybe he is but he's not maybe won't play as well as you could but the point he's like you're gonNA forget not you but everybody's GonNa Forget about Mitch Haniger and I'm like if you drafted him around seven this year drifting around seven next year but nobody will. That's my point right like give it up on vodka obviously but somebody who's younger and operate some names have a Chris Davis the Oakland one. I assume the one that matters when we bring I don't think I will rank him in the top hundred again next year but there could be some value there some value but yes. I'M GONNA say no Mitch Haniger. Yes yes bounces back to what we thought Chris Davis No. I think that's this is the beginning of a bad and I don't think we could save for Giancarlo Stanton because the name brand I think is going to drown but I'm not I don't want it's draft him. In the first four rounds. You might be on my do not draft list. So how about James Paxton. I just don't like him that much okay that I don't WanNa. I don't WanNa rank top twenty thousand pitchers anymore and I think I will ever update my ranks. Carlos Correa a so overrated so overrated look a good player round six or seven people not around two or three. He's not gonNA steal you any bases anymore. I will throw you this question. Cory seager and Carl Crawls Carreira are two of the most overrated middle earth fantasy. I'm sorry Dynasty League Javier Vazquez. Oh No have you have your hobby your bias and trae Turner on my to shortstop stops Carlos Correa has also on this roster. I could trade him. I had this opportunity and we will. I was going to deal him straight up for Josh Hater to WHO's not know on on which side I think really any relief pitchers are good investments in identity if I need the relief pitcher right now and I need the strikeouts that he has it's GonNa win now. Wow that's different do you trade career for hater and should haters team trade him for Carlos Correa to build. Yes yes and yes. That's a different kind of situation. If you can still win I mean I can't win on points the get Chris Sale but you can win. If you can win that league withdraw share of course you do it. I know my brother loves me for saying Mr Farmer and now he hates me for bringing up that trade which didn't happen I mean I've studied ten ways to Sunday how to win in Labor with nothing to trade away and I and I'm not going to get any any other good players that came to the N._F._l.. This weekend the Guy I'm fighting for for I guess his pick is the most money. I assume he'll get castanos because R._B._I.. One through ten is like like every night changes and I have nothing to get I. I'm not even GonNa get the closer. I don't need the closer I could use a starter but I can't. I'll get outbid so if you've been win now do what it takes. If I could win the points lead with sale I would give you but I don't think that's a situational thing. I wanted to get an idea of were you were valuing correa for next year. I mean just Korea. Make the top hundred I think barely I think you should make the I think he and cory seager a really really similar her. I think they both could end up twenty eighty to ninety but neither steals bases. They're just not as good for fantasy as we thought they would be. That's all they're so good players players but like I'm thinking around eight or nine. Where are you on Matt Carpenter? I'm out man man what a disaster and he's is like offers last twenty on his rehab assignment. I mean like we kept thinking. We kept talking about him because of what happened last year and we got burned not my top top hundred. I think there's GonNa be a year for carpenter and I think we're going to have an extremely difficult time telling you when it comes Oh yeah yeah and that makes them. I'm very hard to draft. I'm with you on. I'm out there like I would like in late. May I was Kinda out on Josh Donaldson but now I'm back in because he'll be elsewhere. The Atlanta has to go with Austin Riley next year. Who else makes that? Were you on Jesse winker. I can't you hit for power and average dude like what's up yeah. I'll tell you why we're more Laureano is in my top hundred where he on Stephen Piscotty yeah around twelve ooh fifteen special. It's tough. Did you see the problem is there's so much information on these players and I think we're GONNA have to see exactly how some of these injuries play out over the course of the next I'd rather take Laureano and around six or cussing Huron around seven rather take a young guy with upside that can still basis than some of these guys that are late twenties or thirty eighty and we've seen him and maybe we've seen their best then. That's the thing about some of these players I just. I don't want to write you know I feel like I'm investing in the wrong players. That's trying to find a guy who's Arrow. It was very clearly down to just go in on at the stage I mean I guess Hannigan fits that I'm trying to find somebody you get one. Ah We mentioned his name before I think Castanos Nicholas Castanos is going to be one of these. I what is what is in his profile tells you that all of a sudden he's going to be three hundred guy. I think this is. I think there's a very real possibility this goes so badly that nobody is in next year and he is not in Chicago next year. If anyone around Jewish in either way wouldn't he right and that makes them a great value because what if the true value for Nick is a top seventy five over a player and he's going in about two hundred that's fair. Marcella Uzun was flipping drafts. Oh yeah that's he should get one. There's nothing wrong with him when he's healthy well. There's nothing random is obviously that makes little sense but I just said you know what I mean like. He's a he's a top seventy five player if you can get through season Dee Gordon Out al I have to. I'll say like that one. Yes I say this about Dee Gordon obviously points lead. You're crazy to even invest in stolen base guys except for Mandis U._S.. Power but maybe not the power we thought I'm just Allen Dee Gordon overall even at a road league I- overpaid for him and appoints a lot of points league and in a row league last year because I I was lasting steals now. I'm like eighth and steals last in every other hidden category like you can't Rostro guy like him anymore. You can't everybody has power. Everybody in your team asked him for power now you can can you can't roster in a row leave anybody Gordon. I love the going for a bunch of twelve to fifteen steel guys and if you do it with twenty twenty s I mean you have to pay the premium but just piecing it together. I I like it no more Dee Gordon for me and it's nothing personal by the way baseball season is well underway really underway away and there's no better place to get your tickets that on seek seeking polls millions of tickets into one place that you can easily find the seats you want for a price your willing to pay. There's nothing quite like being there in person and seek we'll get you closer to the action for a great value in fact it got Tristan closer to the action for a great vow earlier this week seek and you should just see the size of that Turkey leg and the size of that t shirt I mean come on. I want people to judge anyway. Speaking of AH stains all over now to speaking of being there in person seeking aspect fans from all thirty teams all across the country which stadiums have the best experience here is from the food to the traffic they ranked. It all want to know where your team ranks. Check them out at W._W._W.. 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I'm loving the visual painted by that that I know Seinfeld yeah that I've seen man parents were big Seinfeld fans so it was always always thinking always eating that and by the way I just checked on the ranking citizens bank park plummeted like eight spots after that video of meeting the Turkey Lake came out trending in the wrong direction. I only took a couple apple photos. People around me were like what are you doing taking a photo and said you're posting this tonight. I treat right now. It's just like I don't know if the results are going to be. Let me look at it right now. Oh my goodness I mean social media is fine well. That's that's what Now this is crazy man. Oh I mean you can't even imagine guys like shirt. You can't see see from the photo like like the size of the shirt. I'm not trying to let me know gonNA come offers like really mean but that's not really what I'm looking here. It's not I what I was in for where that shirt and you weren't in public so confident it's Eric. That's confidence at its highest level. Is What's your thing here. I'm going to put the two of you on it. Oh Gee I just tweeted it out and route of who I am love what you're doing for the community here just in my being proud of who you are and I love what you're doing eric by calling them on the it's out up there. Oh Jeez doing this. During a show. I mean honestly like Oh. My God and people are going to listen to the show then check your twitter feed. We're going to blow it up. It's going viral. That's that's a good photo. Good share those incredible. Oh yeah eating the Turkey like one. It's classic yeah okay. I mean you're owning that like what a lion is out in the Wilderness and he sees a small antimony shreds walking. Pray Him the credit next time we use that photo Tommy Technology. I got a photo what was I doing. I took a photo all-star game right no before that it was when they sent me to Houston and Dallas Joey Gallo in batting cage and I thought hey time like I need a photo credit. I need my resume anyway obviously so new E._S._P._N.. Profile picture all love that EAC we do that though I still have the Harry Potter glasses and my pitcher from twelve every time I send you an email right. How is that possible by email thula literally the photo from two thousand one okay? I'm sorry now is the time off the rail as time. The baseball has happened over the past anymore. Okay Tom Producing next week. You know I'm reading browse. What's the difference Tom You? Do you know how to produce right sure I don't mean appropriate versatile run that thought apples and pineapples at the store not produce <unk> or on your I can definitely produce any more questions here yeah considering. We've gotten to one so far yeah. We got a lot of information in that one answer. I mean the question was who. Do you like to bounce back from what I heard. We've got a lot of answers who you don't like to bounce back channel. This haggard is Dave wants to know position eligibilities looking like next as far as value what positions look good depth wise you. You're talking shortstops. You hate shortstop going to be deepen a value next year. Yes that's deep now not so deep somebody pointed at second base on one of the recent bass might not be a couple of losing it Moncada lost. It is lost it I would say first base is always the deepest third base is just like I sure stop the same. I shortened third pretty first versus the deepest is it not I I I would I will go in on shortstops before I base. That's interesting interesting. I think first base is all that exciting anymore. I think it's deep in the lower tiers. Okay catchers never for deep. Although I do have al eleven catches for my top ten two weeks ago I had like six. Do you really feel good about eight nine ten well. I feel like like why are you hitting on Travis d'arno like he's doing it and he shouldn't be doing it but he's doing it as his regular okay but like he's still compla- catcher some of the time and Roberto parades like you're like. I don't believe well. He does eighteenth home or your two homers last night. He's not stopping Tristan. You cannot stop Roberto. Perez is buck farmer cannot retire roper is I'm quite certain of it but the point is that for next year. Oh no no no you can't but this is this is what we're looking at I. I don't think we can hang our hat on either of those. I'm saying for today. There are wrong with that. He loses a couple of at bats. That's a little yet concern but I'm I'm with you on the news if you say to me how many cats are my top hundred next year I say zero if you see how many are my top two hundred four just the big four that's it it may not even any other catches in my top three hundred because I'll just wait until the last round yeah I haven't seen enough from for example Hail Farro and Danny No. He's not even two of my top eleven right now but for next season I mean just in terms of the engineer. Is Danny Janssen. Honestly what are you. What are you waiting for? You got to speculate the next two months in this position edition. It's so unbelievably bad that head for those who can't hit at this level. Do you think are no gets any better the next few months. I can't see how oh no no no. I'm not saying it's better the next two months. I'm I'm just saying if he just does what he's doing now. He Be Roster Leagues. There's one guy we totally Francisco. He is the one who over the next two months could make a statement for himself as he can but he's not doing it and I've watched him and I think why are we still talking about Danny Janssen Francisco Mahir. They're young okay. They can get better or L.. Pharaoh swings at everything yeah. This is what he is a twelve homer to sixty guy and the injury chain lately just bothered me he you can't you can't succeed when and twelve walks in one hundred strikeouts so we have to somebody's getting ranked tenth next year. I'm not going to be in my in my in my ref ranking right but you're still going to be ranking them. We are going eight eight in the he. I'll take chances on these guys sure but I'm not taking chances until the last round right but if you're going ended if we're going to project the today you're GonNa take one of those guys and it's not GonNa be Roberto Perez. I agree with that. I don't even remember the question was what was the question that positions that are deeper zapped there yeah all right. That's enough of that. Picture is going to be shallow but like why does that answer even matter and fantasy like it doesn't affect how you draft who you want wine and take the best player available. Don't they'll say well. I can wait on this position. Don't do that anymore. People like you shouldn't be doing that anyway but it's dramatically shifted. That's why I think it's a relevant question. I think relief pitcher after that market has changed dramatically. I think shortstop has remember what it used to be that first and third where we're just amazingly deep and then I'll feel was just basically behind them and second in short had nothing thing yes that I'll agree with that and I'll tell you this. Don't take a relief pitcher in the first ten rounds. Don't make look blige with that Blake. Training was supposed host you ha- you ranked trying to sixty dude and he is not even closing anymore. You're going to do it next year. Kirby Gates and you're GonNa ruin him to look at Kimber. Look at a raw Ross looks terrible right now who are Kenley Jansen. You're going to bank on him next year. I want you to take Hanley Janssen around seven while I take. I don't know who in round fifteen. I can't believe you're in wasting sixth. Round picks on relievers still okay and if I can dig up hater might be different if I dig up the fifteenth round from this preseason. I'm going to bet that guy. I'll take my chances because I do not want to do have crime round seven next year and you're going to rank them that so in retrospect we're going to declare it correct to go with the Fifteenth Round Pick that gives you absolutely nothing nothing over Blake Trianon where he went this preseason look Blake Shelton is good right now no but blink trying and by the way had competitive who is the one I was throwing the the numbers for I think it was glossiest easiest. Maybe it was chained green. One of those were comparable numbers for the year for Blake China into these two. He has he had had a bad year. There's no question about by that but he hasn't given you know but like I feel like I could have found somebody in round fifteen to do okay for me and okay is good enough as opposed into your passing on testing Ura so you can draft Craig Kimbrel I I don't I don't believe in doing that. I just won't do that. I never do it this Korean hater example. I gave view the reason I'm going to that's different use that league is because I did not address closers with premium closers yeah but if you if you would address close on Draft Graf Day with Chapman I still be in very good shape Olympian next week I if I had drafted around this Chapman I would be an excellent shape right now all right. If I drafted Brad hand the preseason I would be an excellent shape right now I did not do this. Brad hand has done well. I'll give you that but the fifteenth round this taking it. You'RE GONNA take I'll come on. You're going to take a relief pitcher over Carlos Correa or Ramon Laureano or Nelson Cruz these are all guys were going and around six or seven or eight next year and you're gonNA take Kimbrel or Auroras instead of them. I I might depending on how the early rounds go. I think it actually is important to take those lockton closes and I know there is risk and I get the whole. Don't pay for safe thing but if you're gonNA wait until the fifteenth round I'll make three relievers later and hope two of them pen out. I'm GonNa give you the guys that went. After from fifteen on Jose Jose Leclerc Ken Giles Way Davis Jose Alvarado Cody Alan Will Smith Good Payoff Andrew Miller good of you but you and I weren't you're doing that. You're not. We're not taking cody Alexandra Miller quite certain but we're taking relievers that we thought could be good. We you and I were taking Jordan Hicks. That's just bad luck you when I were taking who is that I wanted to mention Alex Chola. May We knew you and I were taking res L. glaze around fourteen. He's been okay as denies Miss Thirteen okay well. What's the difference I'm just saying I think that there is a premium to pay for closures that ends up going in the top one twenty five for a proven guy you could choose to go there and I can endorse that now I would tell you otherwise I would have waited in Ben with you on Greg Holland and as you mentioned guys like that who had grabbed jobs at the end and cost it's nothing I would not go for the middle ground at all Ian Kennedy is going to win people more leagues than Blake Trenton the San he cost less than nothing yes? He was a free agent. Emilio Pagan is going to help people win the league's May when he may be drawing Garcia Miami will but there's going to be a chase for that on the waiver wire in there. You're not guaranteed to get them and you have to hit on these players Sobhi. You're right. You're right you have to hit. You have to get lucky but I'd rather take my chances then then pass on here verse Kenley Jansen. There's no way I'll take the closer <hes>. We need to finish this show because we have an N._F._l.. Mock draft and football everything at our company so like let's one more question I guess that was a great conversation and and it's and it's good when he and I are you when your parents fight. You're like Oh my God. I'm GonNa leave the House now. Stop throwing things we just went and celebrated a Turkey leg at a baseball game now with the picture. This is very tenuous G. for it. The you've come on he asked for it. He wasn't able to see that he did request. I complied enough. We got one more question here to help John Out. He wants to know what his expectations rotations moving forward and it is dynasty league should be for Tanaka God. He's Tanaka yes. He shouldn't be as bad as he's been all right. He should be a guy with a four twenty five year and right now he's not he. He can't get Boston now okay so be careful this weekend if he's base twelve outing that ruined that he array come on is still four twenty-five without it though isn't it. I don't think it was uh not that high no it was it really obliterated. I'd have to I'll. I'm not going to run the number right now. It's not worth doing that. I he's not authorities not a top forty starting pitcher Oh yes he is. Yes Tanaka Tanaka Versi stroman the I think it's Tanaka there. It's competitive but I think it's tonight. You don't have stroman in your top six year. Tanaka your top forty so it's not competitive you like Tanaka Lot. I think it's warmer talking dynasty angle. I think it is compatible in dynasties different Tanaka Zolder but but that's where he's going with this I mean do you lock into Nakas at Dynasty Guy. I know no I look you know I talked to tons of Yankee fans. There is this belief that Tanaka's the number one star in the playoffs and there's absolutely no question about them. I am a little shocked by that. If it's a dynasty league and a starting pitcher if it's not a top fifteen guy I would rather just take Dustin May and rookies and hope they become stars. That's what I that's my dynasty have you. I'm with you on that. We're starting pitchers. I think that's why you know see if see Pablo Lopez becomes a star as opposed to keeping Tanaka. My Lopez isn't the blue chip kind of guy that Dustin may be a bit everybody does doesn't May and Chris Paddock a rostered and every league you might be able to get but who says at your. That's you know the opportunity you could trade Tanaka for me in a in a dynasty league second right but in that's what I'm saying. I think that if you're not a contender you've got this opportunity right now to trade trade away your rental pieces in your aging veterans and get good prospects and then I'm on board with that do that now for this year. I'm going to try to May for Chris Sale. I only had them. We're done for today. 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3128: A Hell of a Story w/ Joe DeVito

Keith and the Girl Comedy Talk Show

59:24 min | 1 year ago

3128: A Hell of a Story w/ Joe DeVito

"Home what keith and the girl i'm keith malley as guests has been seen on cbs's late show his debut album first date with joe devito is in regular rotation on spotify and sirius x._m. He was on the album with my girlfriend. Friend called threes comedy joe devito high he doing joe. I'm good. I'm glad to be back. Thanks for having me back dude. Everyone loved you last time. You're on everyone everyone. That's so good to your to monetize that. That's the thing they i our class and will teach you the show you wanna hear i. I'm joe's john was called. Endgame with joe the veto by the way recently we everybody loved the guest brian mitchell. He was the jehovah's witness yet to give our you know yeah and i don't know how close they are. Jehovah's witnesses and mormons but you did a show for mormons did are they are. They allowed to laugh. They laugh. They loved to laugh. I did a special for dry bar comedy okay and they record clean comedy specials for family in christian markets but they they take them in provo utah so that makes sense right. That's where you go for the mormons yeah high concentration so they flew me out there and i recorded the special and very very happy with the way it came out yeah <hes> doing it. I was a little concerned because you're edgy well for them pretty edgy because i'm not married and don't have any kids so the fact that i escaped my twenties without either of those was kind of are you like i'm fifty and i'm dating and they're like why there were a couple of people well what they do a good job with promoting the clips so the clips that they put on facebook. The three clips have a combined. I think close to two million views. It's pretty wild but then you would see some some. The women did not like that. I i guess i did not speak well of women. I don't think i did in what i'll be. The judge i just i was saying i think more things for my regular act that i wouldn't think would bother anyone which i know i have never those handouts in the mimeographs i i think one of the lines was at someone says what's dating over forty. What's that market like. I say it's like it's not whole foods is like t._j. Maxx so i said it's you know there's a lot of odd sizes a lot of last year styles and acid joko any any so so they were like. How can you talk about women like their commodities. That's really what you took away from that right besides anyone who listens to my act and think thinks i come out looking good listening very close so i wanted to be cleared you never do you want after we're talking about how you like today. Younger women yeah i. I believe the last show i know after the show i asked you you know do you date women your age and you actually i'm seeing one right now and she's thirty and i go. You know what i just said. What is your rage. My ages fifty okay so thirty's not your age. Thirty is not my let me just quickly do some just honestly just quick math. They were adults for twelve years and you were an adult for thirty two years. Never do the math. Never another game always be selling another game. You don't wanna play is when i was say you were doing this right <hes> and usually they were in high school. You liar hot tips for old dominion magnon tips for old purves. Well let me say this. I found that it's not as big a deal with younger women's. I thought it was going to be. I thought it was going to be a deal breaker. That was to say one. I'm just dude yeah and they're they have no problem with well. Because we're waiting for men to mature and at fifty you might be starting to. I'm on the verge elmer close to it. Also they have no problem with the young stupid. Yes but i did have one woman who i met who she's like professionally professionally hot as she goes to. If you have a bar opening she shows up in an outfit and throws t-shirts people. She's really good looking and she's twenty and sounds like you have a lot to talk about bull t shirts i said i'm a huge is at a cotton blend. Then i passed out from all the blood going in my erection and she had a wave a t. shirt the over eating rows me but she said i said why why why are we hanging out this kind of weird and she said i was like what am i doing here. I just wandered in like a used. I old man and she said you don't understand guys my age. She said i can't talk to them because all they're thinking about a sex and i can see it in there. Is that even when noor pretending to listen to me and <hes> what was funny to me was that she thought i was doing something different it just as my laziness in in tiredness now comes was across his like a quiet cool. Women will think he's really. He must know something and i'm just exhausted. The thing is is. I want to argue with you because thirty already in and fifty seems like such a big age gap but i don't. I don't know i like your in amazing shape. You keep your mind sharp. Just fifty s older all. They need to keep your mind sharp but it's strange when it's a pattern. That's all when you look at you who cares who leonardo dicaprio. He's fantastic. He deserves whatever you can get in life right but when there's a pattern that you dump them at twenty five and then you start over and you dump them twenty five that's when it becomes that you think nobody in their forties or fifties is really the all. I don't think that i just say you act like because my life has been different. I never got married and i never had kids so most of the women eating ah getting into my age group are divorced or have children or some of them are widowed. Now life exactly like the adults they they have to take care of shit. Yeah and i have posters in my apartment coaster. I feel like we might have talked about this. Last time you're on but it isn't funny that because you don't have kids and don't get married. It's a detriment right. It's a women look at you. Sideways like well why whereas <music> i'm divorced. That's okay you've lived life. You gave it a shot. I think i've crossed over to some kind of other side because for many years. I think women felt that way that what's wrong with this guy. I met a woman after she didn't cost over to the other side. You're still dating thirty twenty five year olds so they're they're like yeah. Of course you're not married or have kids. Nobody i know they're just getting ready for a ten-year union. I think what i've crossed over to. Is that it it was. I think it ran parallel tracks to people thinking well. Maybe he's gay but then gay people got married before. I did kind of screwed that up for everybody 'cause i never thought they'd get there before meet right but i think women look at it differently that women my age who've been through that they see me as someone who does not have a lot of baggage which is it's true but in waits to you as a person who hasn't been tricked keith. You've been traced tricked yeah. We've all been trick. We got sold something that we said. We're not gonna a by and all of a sudden. We're they're spending. Money was a special i. I was never against marriage. It's very hard to say that. I never got around to it. When george clooney got married really fuck and now he was still waiting for ted alexandro which now it's over to ted has a great joke and when that he's dating a thirty year old has a fifth year old well. He said that if men his age u._c._s._b. Him in george clooney and when george clooney got married. I texted ted in. I said it's just you and me now and then he got married so i guess it's just it's just me the smartest man alive man alive yeah. Do you rate on assoc on dating apps age. I do know i don't hide that. Although it is weird that once you go from forty nine to fifty a lot of things change <hes> what's like when you sell sell something yourself from one thousand nine hundred ninety nine exact it's true and it's the same as when i was on stage and i i have a joke. I say i'm seeing i did alter. My forties in one day. Was i'm single. I'm forty nine which means i'm ready to cut a deal. That was the joe and the first time i said i'm single and i'm fifty. I realize oh this is a different joke. Now and the audience realized too 'cause single and under fifty means they here in this guy's got to get shit together when you're single and fifty. They think it's not gonna happen because never gonna get shit together. I i think that we should have more conversations like this where marriages an option and not the why didn't you do it. Where the fuck have you been. I think that we constantly talk to two two year olds. Listen to people talking two year olds and how they go like oh. Do you love your friend. Are you on a date. No i'm shitting my pants next to this other fucking baby the godwin who do you like and it's always like the opposite sex like oh. You're talking to kimberly. Do you like what the fuck are you doing so we're already talking to them like a goal is to get married and we also. I think even talk to them about their goals in general too soon like what do you wanna be. When you grow up up. Shut the fuck up. Live in the now with your goddamn kids for a minute you want them to decide okay. They're going to be president. Look at your kid. They're not going to the president now. They're already letdown joe tweets out. I follow him at joe devito comedy quote what i'm just thinking what's going to come. Come back to bite me now. Maybe what