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CBS3 News AM News Update 08/22/2020

CBS3 Eyewitness News Philadelphia

01:10 min | 3 months ago

CBS3 News AM News Update 08/22/2020

"I'm Jan Carabeo here. Today's headlines from CBS three eyewitness. News Delaware State police are investigating a shooting at a hotel parking lot in newark gunfire erupted just after midnight outside of the semester es suites one person was shot. There's no word at this time on a motive or the victim's condition. A twenty five old woman is struck and killed in Philadelphia's cobbs. Creek section this all happened around eight thirty last night as the victim was crossing cobbs Creek Parkway near Catherine Street police say the victim was hit by a car fell and then was hit by another car. The first driver kept going the second driver remained at the scene. Fall Sports get the green light in Pennsylvania. The Pennsylvania interscholastic Athletic Association voted to Permit Fall Sports to begin on Monday meaning the final decision rests with local school districts to the CBS three eyewitness weather forecast. It'll be partly cloudy today with a high of eighty eight degrees I'm Jan Kariburyo be sure to follow us on facebook and twitter at CBS. Philly.

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Episode 828: Tasha Cobbs Leonard

Relevant Podcast

57:56 min | 2 months ago

Episode 828: Tasha Cobbs Leonard

"This is relevant. It's Tuesday October six, two, thousand twenty, and it's the relevant podcast here in Orlando I'm your host, Cameron Strang and joining me from liberal and Virginia it's Jesse Kerik Low low from Austin Texas author podcast or Jamie Ivy Hey guys in from Nashville Tennessee artists and producer and mogul Derek Minor. Though we have a great show for you coming up later we talked to Gospel artists worship artist Pastor Tasha cobbs Leonard. She's joining us talking about her newest live album recorded with no audience I love we have people on the show like that giant is. Every time every if as a black person or one of my friends I'm like Oh. Yeah. Hey Fleet foxes or joining us and Derek home we are. We are now in the getting into the thick of October like for all Y'all above the Florida Georgia line probably nice and cool getting crisp outside like yeah. Lovely. Getting outdoors the more experienced doors. Have Y'all like Kobe's getting a little bit more on the Review Mirror for a lot of us maybe just like. Nothing else. Yeah. Maybe getting a little more bold on doing outside of our quarantine zones are y'all kind of getting back to normal life at all have you found yourselves back in the flow? Going places that used to go all that kind of stuff jamie went to a football game. Planes. Mask on. Across the big frontier which was I took my first uber ride since pan-demic uh-huh Yeah I was going somewhere and the place I, was going it was someone's house and they had limited parking and. A few of those and it's like if you if you're comfortable, please say so. I, I was going I was in the Uber of my wife and now look Uber's come a long way in terms of like what you can preface before you even get in the car right? Like we're we're setting up the ride, and if you haven't taken uber in a while, you can now go and put I. Prefer a quiet ride. Conversation is your preference. CHATTY person and if we start chatting I feel rude like just pulling on my phone and act like the chats over it's better just to establish it before you get in the car right like it because it's like. Jerry Seinfeld with the doorman like where Jerry doesn't WanNa chop it up the doorman every time he comes into the building and the doorman just thinks he's really rude into good for this eliminates that this is I pressed the button, they get it I just want you know my wife would have substance talk about in the back of the car, right? So we get. So Hoover arrives we've selected that preference and I opened the door and as soon as we start going, you know there there's music playing he goes I'll turn this down since you guys said, you wanted to quiet ride and I was like all no. He's misunderstood what this is about. Where you guys headed Now, there's not even. This little dinner thing it's in somebody's backyard. Dinner That's reminds me. You guys don't mind. If make quick call I'm really craving garden tonight and I just got paid. Do you care if I call my dad to see if this guy's not young? Okay. This guy's probably in his late fifties you guys care if I call my dad real quick and asking about A. Mile of garden I'm probably GONNA. Go House garbage right after this like okay. On. The phone with his dad okay. It's like we can chat. He's going to be talking he's. Talking about you know the Soup Salad breadsticks situation you have your confident. We'll have our satisfied I was actually kind of please. So he dials up and he puts it on speaker. Says legal use legal. You can't drive around with the phone in your hand. In my state, you can. You can drive the phone at your ear or you can put in near pods like normal human we're not. Driving that's illegal. You cannot wear headphones while you're driving you have to be able to hear horns well, he he puts his. Hand and he he He is dad answers. He's like, yes, and he's like, Dad GonNa, pick up some olive garden. Would you like some? No I don't get paid until Friday olive garden. Physicist an ongoing issue with debt I'll take your the olive garden. Pay Me back on Friday I'm going to stop. US Son, I've been eating cheese and crackers all day. And they're yelling at each other about the. Whatever Dad I'll be eating olive garden by myself tonight. Many things. He's like he's like. As if we didn't hear the conversation was like I'm going to hit by olive garden after I drop you guys off I would probably just be by myself today because every day in evidently dad's filled up on cheese crackers. Oh Gosh. Okay. So at that point. Dany. Attacks about so we know who is having some. You know there were some it was a health related situation a very private, very serious and Dana is relaying. You know as she's reading I'm like everything. Okay and she's like you know kind of quietly relating some the details of what's happening. But at least I was thinking at least this will get the guy to get the hint that we're something serious back here as soon as there's applause in the conversation. He's like so how is she now? It's really interesting. Let me ask question he's asking you about the medical condition it was like not only. Is it not a quiet ride his? Uncomfortable as possible. But I found misunderstand. Answer this honestly, how many stars did you give them at the end? I always get five stars. Not I can't. Even when I see eye, there's low as I could possibly go if someone openly insulted me, it would probably be a three-star bare. Minimum. Lady, who knows. To. How many rights got it make that up. What about it? Privacy was the during the music down the awkward yelling our olive garden with his elderly. House the. Way I would have. Do. So. Normally, we just jump right into slices here but this I just wanted to take second and Make sure that the listeners know some big news for the Brooklyn podcast Fam- a few days. Ago Are Very Jamie Ivy released her newest book Jamie I want to. Take A. Minute for you to tell us about it and tell us thanks guys on the book and everything about. Okay I did look. I. Have to show you the listeners, but you could see if you bought it. It's called. Do It came out last Thursday? Actually I'm excited. It's my second book and it is a book that I want to just cheerlead women to say you can be the person God created you to be you don't try to be like anyone else you have talent you have gifts you have a purpose passionate voice now use them and do something with it. That is the message of this book. Why can't in ourselves men can too. But I just mostly women are buying my books I, I'm GonNa send you guys a book you can read it but. A girl. And Man, but I do speak mostly to women not because I need to but it's just who listens to. Jamie. Are. No Jamie your podcast of your speaker, you're a writer and you know. Commit one topic like this to a book. I mean, there there had to be some sort of impulse. It's like, okay this is something I really feel like there's this need for why why was this a topic that you felt like you wanted to tackle for the book? Yeah you know that's a good question because I hear a lot of women say I'm doing a lot of interviews rank. How good of a question was that in comparison it was actually a really good question, but do you know? What I'd give Interviews. Says Five Stars. Actually hate when people respond with high just responded I. Don't like we'd be like, oh, that's a good question because really what that means is you're using your brain to think about how you're gonNA answer it. No, but I started to see a lot of women not believe they were good enough because I mean social media plays a lot into this like we talked about last week like this culture of Christian celebrities, and so they would start to think man I don't know that I'm even doing anything that makes a difference in the world because she has you know one hundred, million followers she's writing books and she's doing this or even in your own communities like. Everyone knows who that mom is and I just believe that we're women are believing ally that says they can't do anything because their life doesn't look like hers and so I think every single person. If you're follow Jesus, you bring something to the table and I just want them to show up and do something like you have something to say and do. So let's do it now. I know how publishing works. So you wrote this book before Cova then you. Turned it in last October the first house. So how different do you feel the message will be heard in the world today than the world that you wrote it like is it? I don't think it's any different. This is a message that could have come out after late genesis four people start believing lies about themselves like this is what we've been dealing with our whole lives, and so I think that the message stands today tomorrow forever advantages. Be More Apropos now because people have been quarantined are living their life on social media comparison culture. And some people is lives have really been hard this year and they are thriving the way this. Are and stuff people's lives have thrived this mean they have like you know it's good for them. So there's no football games or wearing floppy hats they're just doing all the things. Around. You. It's Everybody. Go check it out get it wherever you. Absolutely. Next slices. Can. Up. Listen, to steal song, survive, and. I love best to do really. Yes. So whenever I throw out like some some indie bands that we like I never sure like which ones you because I know you love like. We've talked about TAME, IMPALA I. Definitely love a lot of music that we cover but then there's some are looking at me like who like. Originally I read the music selection I look at Derek like yeah okay. Why do you not ever look at me like you don't ever think. These texts I text, your kids texture and said, Hey, do you like the new best deal? So all right. Well, today show is brought to you by U H S m these days finding affordable quality healthcare is more difficult than ever. So if you're looking to save up to fifty percent on your health care expenses listen up, you don't have to wait around hoping healthcare will improve in the. 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All right I have this is sort of a foul of sliced. To her so this is the first one is this kind of a follow up to something Jamie brought? We talked about in recent podcast about how? Foods, that we routinely eat collectively. On this side of the pond are often looked at as. Either Gross. Or straight up. In other countries I, you because of the ingredients within them. So what I saw this headline I, I knew I had to bring it because You. Know it's funny. I listened to an interview with Tom. Brady owned shepherds podcast awhile ago and he's talking about Tom Brady now, he's like forty three. He's still slinging around the yard you know in Tampa and you know but he's on this weird diet where you know it's kind of like just fresh veggies in sunlight and gargling saltwater whatever you know like totally true changes nutrition and he was like but what I was in high school and college athlete a my my idea of what was healthy is subway like an eighteen inches. I made a good decision today. Remember that campaign with the pedophile where He lost like five hundred pounds. Jerry Seinfeld did a joke. Once he was like you know when that was going on and he was like, how what were you eating to lose five hundred pounds? Along. Is Not. Even, that I mean I'm not GonNa lie like sometimes when I if it's like between chick-fil-a subway, it's like I wanted to feel better about myself. You know at least at least it's not like. Grilled Chicken Salads and stuff right? Now you know that's that's just for show. Thirty. Every day every day I get a grilled chicken salad, a spicy southwest Well, when I go to subway, it's like you know like I said, I can get veggies on they're getting all of it. I'm getting it. All seems very well balanced to me bread meat in veggies. Hi, you're eating an entire loaf of bread vessel. I WanNa add to that one my basketball coach in eighth grade. Told me that pizza is the most nutritious thing you could eat what because you? You have cheese bread. Vegetables on. Not. Kids you Mr Potts told. Fouls Mr. Potts. This took. Copy Mr Potts was a thin do but he says, he goes he says, and he says in this country Santa Fe Tennessee accident he says well, Derek A. Pizza is the most. The most nutritious thing you could eat you got your bread you got your cheese A. Spin on it. If he won't you get your protein from Pepperoni I'm telling you man listen is the best thing you can eat SOM- scarfing pizza. Before practice and that my side is hurting. Brick hot is bread and my stomach. Just outside I just I. Know. The Food Pyramid that I learn more I was a kid it was like the bottom the biggest one was just it was. Make. Sure. The bread like everything else you can just pyramid as long as you got a little fish on top your get your good. Literally on. This, and this has to do with Brad because it who has eaten at subway, and so the gym Gaffe Again Jogos see like if you go to subway if you're in there for you know any more than just like ninety seconds, you're going to smell like bread exhaust the rest of the day. Town. I'm in a room with. Alexakis. Radiating off of him I don't even know if it's an odor or if it is some sort of just you know just radiation from that big oven thing they have their so. So. Court said okay. The other thing funny thing about this is not just because of how twisted our ideas about nutrition are. But just how. Let our political issues in this country right now compared to political issues and other countries let's say Ireland, where where? where? Where we're this story happens to take place. You know because there's a lot of conversations that we're having in our country that have to do with the Supreme Court orders actually has to do with the Supreme Court of. And a recent a recent case that. Included in here's a quote from from a story from independent Ireland. The newspaper. Included a consideration of whether breads sold in subway sandwiches fell outside the statutory definition of bread what A high. Live. Judge Court just think about this for a second. Okay. Five judges of Supreme Court had to make this determination. They tied up the time five judges of the Irish supreme. Court. To make a ruling that quote the bread in subways at sandwiches false to outside the statutory definition because of its sugar content. Too Sugary. Code legally classified as bread. This is in line with Derek talked about last week all this American food that other countries are going. nope. That's not food. Yummy. Food. against. Off. That's all desert. It's like when you when you order like cheese crackers from the store and it's like S. C. H. E. Z.. Calling it. Yeah. That, exactly. If you pronounce, it phonetically just sounds exactly like cheese legally where there's a nice little loophole. So I. Do. They have to put the word bread and quotes on their signs or something it's it's it's undecided I mean I think I think. has just. Bread. Fresh break break to make it more. European. Bray. Out. Say This I'll say this because the violation was at too much sugar to be required read I'm not GonNa lie that actually makes me what subway more like because I haven't adult. Delusion enough to believe that a subway. Sandwiches a healthy decision. I would, if I were a subway marketing person, I'd be like our bread is so sugary it's legal to call it bread. Let come get one I'm like dude I try. You know that's GonNa make a serial out of it next all the sugary you know. Exactly. Melconian. Breakfast. So. I promise that to for a and you guys may have seen this There was a video that was making the rounds recently of a neighborhood in Toronto where someone had film, one of those Boston dynamic robot dogs just trolling showing around the neighborhood you know people were getting freaked out because if you guys don't know it looks like it's basically a robotic dog I don't know if anybody. Watched, Black Mirror there's a really iconic episode called metalhead where like this weaponized robot dog from the future is basically i. it's it's like a forty five minute horror movie and it, but it basically plays on what happens if these things get out of Control Boston. Dynamics win. This is making the rounds had issue a tweet because everyone was freaking out and said One of our spot robots was recently filmed while out on an evening stroll with his handler who's one of our commercial customers. The customer was conducting routine mobility tests of the robot and kept it away from people as required by terms of us. We are excited about the peaceful productive well-supervised uses of a robot dogs for commercial applications such as power, generation, construction, and process manufacturing. Weird because they're using them in Singapore right now to stroll around parks to make sure people are social distancing. This aim dog is being used in parks right now in Singapore to walk up to people that that it can sense if there's a group of a couple hanging out in a park and it will walk up to them and with an automated voice tell them. That, they need to maintain physical distancing, and this is actually government actually put these into the parks. So even though the even though the company says, it's against our terms of use to do things like this. There are purchased by governments to do things like this. It's it's a weird story but also interesting, and of course, I because these are being commercial are commercially available. I went and looked How much? They would cost and. Guess. The price of how much these costs have used one day for it. Dog, twenty grade. It's it's more quite a bit more. It's it's let's say you took to. Let's say you took a what's what's the tax bill for like an average billionaire times Dollars. Seventy five thousand dollars to the tax bill paid one hundred times and is seventy five, thousand dollars much. One of these bad boys will cost. But like you said, they're already being used in a way that is against their terms of use. I don't really care I. It doesn't bother me at all I actually think they're Kinda. Cool. But I they told me that lying, Hey, we're telling you not to use it like this and governments are buying them to use it exactly in the opposite way that there were. Technology is this if I was artificial intelligence that was built to protect humanity. And I watched the the debate. I'm taking. I do. You. Guys you guys need me more. Better. Computers to hack into the subway of. Put more. Put more sugar. We'll make. What do you have? Derek So. What I have found. Pretty. Cool. But also very scary since we're on black MIRATEC AMAZON has a flying indoor security drone. That they are getting ready to sell and that just screams. For. ME. Minority report a I love Ron. Wyden because we're living in now. What is developing the future crimes? Is One of my favorite movies and it's so crazy that I remember. Seeing that. Science fiction and crazy but it's we're moving very very close to a life said, this is an indoor securities. On Indoor security owns. The ring. Ring security drone that will fly around your house for security purposes while you're not home and it will keep an eye on the entire property and then they'll. Then fly around and stuff that that seems You know a little bit of overkill, but it also seems not very fun like you remember a couple of years ago I remember this I think we I think years ago I am almost certain that years ago when we were at the office that was in the old bank building I, think we bought one. Of these and it was one of those balloons that are shaped like a shark right? It has a helium and it has a little motor where you can do the tail and you can control it. You know and it looks like a shark swimming through your house. It'd be way more fun if you just put a couple of those that voice out sharks. They're hilarious and it's not like. It's not as terrifying having to draw like if I'm a burglar right and I'm at the house peeping in and a big blimps shark comes fly Goten by I'm I'm getting a good laugh and be like, okay I'm Outta here messy. Yeah. That seems like categories like home alone level right there like happy more afraid to break into the House that I feel like a child has booby trapped drone sharks are blimp sharks that I would with some Weirdo with a with an indoor Amazon trout. There is there's a kid weight behind that doggy door with a BB gun. Face with an iron hiding in the seal it. My only thing is like people already. Are Skeptical of of cameras getting hacks, people a Lotta. Times. They'll put like electrical over there their. Camera on their laptop and things like that. If somebody hacked into your ring and count yeah you're asleep done and. You wake up and that drone is just over you lying around asks you the cameras. Like yeah. I'm good I'll pass on that one guys' as. They say when this is coming out, I saw it happier next year. There you go. I'm I'm a pass and early adopter tech stuff. So now for you guys and then you can. Just watch me whenever you want you can. Yeah Yeah This'll be some freaky dis. is going to be. That, you know that people are going to be like Oh we have a camera in our house. We can turn it on whenever we want. No I'm out. That's why that's why kids are in while they're sleeping indoor shark the answer guys it's through whimsical I posted a link. In The show notes wherever you guys can observe and be like okay that is hilarious. While take blood shark any day of the week. All right. What do you? David. I actually had the same store is Derek which is funny. So I got. Back. Was it's okay. But I do have something. Funny. There's a there's a side about it is saying, okay we have a few questions about this. Number One. Can we decorate it for parties? You know. What is How does it map your house? How far can I throw it? What what keeps my dog cat monkey parakeet from Sweden it out of the air. kind of things like that. It's kind of funny but I I am a no for this. You guys although short as a mom to four kids there have been plenty of times I. Wish I had a camera in the house when we were but people have cameras in their houses already on it. I do like I'll be out of town and I'll see come on on the alert on my phone and I'll like look and it's like Cohen stop by to pick up something hey, buddy I'll tell you all talk to them through the camera. So I guess the only difference in this because you already have that. So yelling differences that you can, you can pick this up it's docked. So it says it's. Not Filming when it's docked and then you can have it, pick it up and it knows your house when you get it, you kind of map it out those vacuum things and then you could control it until it to go check out a room while you're gone I mean one of the things you're saying it's like it'd be good for like Oh my gosh the stove on and they get on your phone. Little thing I would think instead of having to like have cameras all over your house, you could just have this one and then like monitor everything with one purchase as opposed to three or four more I wouldn't I'm not necessarily worried about the home camera as much as I am if this becomes the norm and I'm walking down the street and there's a, there's a security drone 'cause I'm on I walk in dollar general or walk into Walmart and then you know in a walmart parking lot there's a security drink. Identifies Oh suspicious and Tom Cruise jumps out of the out of the bushes and takes you down because you. Take your eyeballs out member minority report you guys. Oh my gosh, she's just. Listen guys. I'm black. So do this law enforcement robot law enforcement like at least I feel like we're human law enforcement I might be able to be like A. Robot law enforcement is like. You. Know Hey, Murphy Robocop I'm not cool with rubble. It's inevitable that these drones will be part of retail security and then I do robot dogs will be part of retail security and like it's GonNa Happen I mean it's here. In place within five years, I would think I'm a fan of the most intimidating form of surveillance, which is what they use an old ladies action movies, which were basically VHS cameras and all the corners and they had a red light. You know which one is. For the heist at the cargo yard, all you gotTa do is jump out of the way when the red light comes on yours and it looks over Russia up no one's over there are going to sweep over here. Very. Very ineffective seems like. A heist those in laser fields I would go with the laser field because I dare burglar to Catherine Zeta Jones Dancer way through my living room, there's. Good Good luck in my laser field of my eighties video cameras thinking about Derek. Obvious. Already, not only Amazon but another other companies have gotten approval to be testing. Drone delivery that happened to them a month ago or so. So you're walking through your neighborhood and drones will be flying around buzz different doors with packages you know security drones will be protecting the perimeter of somebody's property. You know like don't walk up my property drone will come confront you like. This is a future. This is like back to the future too but like real life. Yeah that's what I'm saying I'm like. Guys we really figured out the just nine drone. Situation. So adding drones into that does I'm like. I don't know guys this. This doesn't seem like we're going in a direction that's going to be. Going to create with our here's a question i. How what do you do with a drone that racially profiled a person or facial recognition identifies the person as as a mistake they did in the past an boom there on top. What do you do? What do you do with that? Legally like what are you doing with that? That can ask the question how would a drone racially profile unless it was programmed to do that is that is that okay for Would learn patterns of behavior and. Criminal Statistics and whatever, and would identify that this person is more likely than another type looking person and that's What people do now. So there's an extra. There's a study that talks about not even just is not even just at the I level it's at the person program. Yes. The person has programming the I their biases will be in the I. I we'll take them further than they were even programmed the they'll grow they'll grow in those bias. RTC see that and it's been exposed through some recent reporting in like algorithms used by like the mortgage industry established like mortgage rates in certain neighborhoods that you know and so it effectively. Segregation via algorithm because the the the initial programmers determined that certain areas of town in their assessment or higher risk for lending. But what what an effective it took out any it made, it made an a discriminatory algorithm that that targeted you know disenfranchised communities and just self-perpetuated it's you know. But because the people at the initial programming stage, you know allow their biases influenced the algorithm and then banks pulled out. Of economically depressed areas, which then made the academic depressed areas impossible to get loans, which then self fulfilling prophecy than those houses went down they weren't maintained. Then crime comes to act on it at a DA and it was because if you look at the the separation between the haves and have-nots in America and you look like driving block to block, you cross the tracks and there's a visible difference in neighborhoods. Can, go back to the banking practices that changed after the Second World War, the lending charts. About this. Color compromise is that your Martinez being this old thing that you wrote about in the book about that? Yeah. It's. Red Line, the effects of redlining the. Of Jim Crow, just lie okay. I like to use this example. Every time I talk about race relations is the idea of this. If we believe that what happened two thousand years ago at Christ can change literally today. Then the idea of redlining that happened back in early nineteen hundreds can change what's happening today. So it's if you point a straight line slightly off its course in any general direction, the more time that it goes in that direction, the bigger, the gap between the original intent and the line that that's going. So my thing is with the a Ai, the person creating a if that person has a if there's no black people helping program. We're left out of that conversation. Then the most well intended straight line going in the wrong direction fifty years from now is. At lack of diversity in the tech industry. I mean both gender and racial diversity is a huge issue in Silicon Valley. All right now differ slices stay tuned up. Next TASHA COBBS LYNYRD joins us. Off. You're listening to salt. Not. Sa L. T. Essay you lt it's fancy song is free. Today show is brought to you by anchor. Now, we get a lot of questions from people who wanNA start podcasts asking for tech in tips and tools. If you haven't heard about anchor Lemme tell you it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain first of all it's free. That's a big one. Anchor. Also has creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or computer. Also, anchor will distribute your podcast for you. So you can be on spotify apple podcasts pretty much every outlet very easily. You can also make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place. It's pretty great tool. You can download the anchor APP or go to Anchor Dot FM to get started. That's A. N. C. H. O. R. Dot, FM Anchor. Go try it out. Well Singer, songwriter? Pastor. TASHA COBBS LYNYRD is one of the most successful Gospel artists out there today with dozens of awards, chart-topping accolades, huge songs she has two million followers on social media. She's had two billion streams of her music as well. Our very own Tyler Huckabee sat down with Tasha this week to talk about her recording her newest worship album royalty live with no audience and the importance of having in keeping mentors. Here is some of our conversation with Tasha cobbs. Him Accent Thaung. was, passionate started pastor and when I looked in years old And he started to groom me cultivate the. Communicator in me. So I was actually groomed to be preacher teacher. You hear a lot of that even my worship, a lot of people say it's like you you prophesy teach in the worship all at the same time I believe you hear that foundation of. Teaching and preaching. So for years I didn't really. Didn't really start leading worship until I was about fifteen which I'm considered a late. And it just happened by happenstance we had acquire a group in a small town. We had a choir I was like the instructor over the choir I didn't lead any songs and there was something by Kirk Franklin call now behold the lamb. And we were singing that song at a concert in the in the guy who leads the song got in the minor car accident. So everybody started looking at me saying, toss you lead the song. PEOPLE TALKING So that night I ended up singing the song with my eyes closed the entire time my parents were in the room. When I opened my eyes people, they were crying people were in the floor and worship, and so I'm looking at my parents like okay there's this special here. So. After that, we really started to cultivate that gift of leading worship in, but it was I was a late bloomer says about fifteen years old. Now. News are ship. Absolute movie is one of my cats. The imported there are so many examples of mentors in the Bible, you know when you think of Elijah and Elisha you'd think of. In Ao me you know stole many examples of mentorship and. I will be about ten years ago just like going to start in different places, different conferences and people would come to the often say, Hey, I want you to be my mental or what you'd be. Of course during the time I was thinking I I don't know enough to anything you know. My. Mindset about it was I always felt that mentors were some people that you can touch getting tangible after a years, your face all the time and I later found out you know no, that's not the case the Bible says to study to show yourself. and. That's not just books or scripture I studied people you know. So see one is has been one of its whereas for years before I ever met her I was watching house navigating the worship. You know I was watching how she helped her husband need their church and still was you know this icon that love in? So I Believe Holy Spirit is not a show. Me Don't really have to be able to touch you. You just have to make yourself available in the information out there and plays guy who works social media the Internet I'm able to put information out to people that may not ever see. So there people around the world literally commie their mints who are may not have ever looked them in their face, but I constantly shoot out information to them to this day. You know I a lot of my Mitzi share with me how much nets Domoni much spiracy. Help them in ministry. See. The. Indy. Funerals. Your. Own. My. This is my favorite album. Love. Albums, but there is some. Very special about this win It was a sacrifice of worship and praise for my husband. We went through some things leading up to this that we're very challenging me, and so I believe I had to minister to myself as well as all of the other people that I was thinking about to and so you hear that record is it's all in spite of me just really. Pop feel to it old school rb vibe almost but still the worshipful song and it's the first time that I play guitar as well on A. Plate on that song in spite of me, but it's just one of my favorites. It speaks about me personally is almost written by this guy's name is Dante Bo I was done with the album I was standing here I was talking to my husband said I feel like we need one more song has this top vibe and immediately techs Dante about an hour later he sent me this song in I was like this is what I ready or So that song because of all those different little nuances, the guitar, the different styles is something fresh for me but it still has that worship you'll is one of my favorite change you. You. Can it be. Look. One of the things I'll never forget is we did it for an audience of what it was literally four one in the room it's a twenty, seven, hundred, seater bater, fish, and. I decided I will felt like you know this is something we need to document I, want my children when they look back channel twelve years from now I want them to be able to say allow my parents. They weren't silent in the pandemic of the church was still very relevant. You know I, want them to see the empty news told them even as we were preparing for creative production. One of the first things that I said, I want you guys to get shots where they seen interviews and everybody was like ooh I don't what what? So ice lane that to them are like I don't want it to be a secret that the church was alive and well during this time, you may have been home I think this is one of the most creative. seasons of the. Ever, I really believe that we have been stretched creatively to be. Relevant, I'm so very proud of the church in the season I think our voices have been heard. I believe more people now have been have had an encounter with God than ever before you know because nowhere no matter where you look online, you gotta see someone preaching someone teaching someone talking about Jesus Christ and I think that's awesome. City. You. Leave. Cry With Angels You. Only. Race, each day each hour everything about what we're doing is reminds us that we're in a pandemic. So. Worship Spain's idol necessarily want that reminder. Want you mind me of our? That's in the name of Jesus Christ I. Want You to remind me that we serve a guiding speeds. Who is joy? Who is grace? Who was life you know I i. believe that are worship space even in our teaching our thinking is should be yes, we're not we're. Not. GonNa. Deny the fact that when a pandemic but I think we should glorify and magnify that out is much bigger than where we are So I I I just I think we need to be lead on that. Utilize Just wisdom in that area that we're not all always reminding people that, hey, this is where we are our songs need to address that I. I have been very conscious about that. Even in our our worship at our church to make sure when I always say nowhere in a pandemic. Everybody is aware of that. Make me more aware of. Too That was Tasha cobbs Leonard. Make sure to check out her new worship album royalty wherever you listen to. Music. Club. Tuesday. Already Drinking Valvik dusted. On Tuesday. Wildly Act. Angel. means. Sleeping. Yanni. It all. But because. Clean. Listen to Duckworth Song is weakened with a question mark. Okay. It's time for your feedback last week on the Tuesday show, we asked you we we played that Jesse for a slice brought that lead Jenkins clip from the early days of Internet viral and how some of those old classics. Stand the test of time and so for this week's question of the week, we asked you to send us your favorite all-time viral internet videos this. Moves so fast that there are some classics that we just have forgotten about and they only happened a couple of years ago. So you guys hit us up on twitter at relevant podcast. He also posted on the episode post on the relevant magazine Instagram page. Here are a few of our favorite clips. Okay. So Joshua bar how this is one surprise I consider myself. An expert on time-wasting viral videos. But this one was sent us by Josh Barham. Just simply said the best and the title is old, man can't say buttery flaky cross I'm in I'm laughing. Suiting of. Commercial for a restaurant and old man and old woman, and they're supposed to do like customer testimonies like how great this restaurant was hit hit Clark? Line. Is Baked in a buttery flaky crust. Bacon. The buttery crust. Finally. They buttery flavor crush. Baked and buttery. And, very, flaky she's helping him out. flaky. Baked or buttery. crunchy. Toward I'd there's one where a guy in it's far. It's. It's arguably it has more profanity than like five Martin Sports says he movies and it's the one where the guys film is RV commercial and every time he messes up, he has a meltdown is. Honestly I don't think I would even wanted out the store. You can find it and and and you don't mind just hearing someone unleashed a tirade of profanities every time he makes the most minor mistake. And watching human RV. RV salesman just. Meltdown. Christian Bale Clip. Exactly, that that Christian Bale that looks like a pixar movie compared to the. Okay here's this one. I. Haven't actually seen this one but Andrew sit in this one of George George W Bush, and if this has been revealed to you guys yet but I just think George W Bush is like one of the cutest old man I've ever seen in my entire life and so. This is what this is. Something About George W. Here we go. We must stop the terror. I call upon all nations to do everything they can. To stop these terrorist killers. Thank you. Dr Drive. 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So she made I'm looking at this she sued APP, may money off of that Oh that's funny. she's been making commercials for local people in Oklahoma so she's campaigning. Nice she's going. Barbecue restaurant in Oklahoma City and haven't hired her to be. Yeah Yeah Hey, there's one more that we can't play here either but you guys know where the reporter is reporting and he's like all serious. Bugs covering. Touch it. Never gets old. Wife cries every time she wants his. Ray. Ray Guevara said. How to play oceans on the drums is is is all time Greg Forum Neo per year. Young. Who? You. In huge. Thank God. Electric. Electric Jumps. Takes over the dog. Dare you probably spent some afternoons Guitar Center that is always happening on the electric. Guitar. Center from their opening hours through the close time and there's somebody on a electric drum kit with headphones. All garth in. Plays out. Derek. I've I've I have a couple of homeys at work at various guitar centers and they say that that is the thing that drives most people to quit. Thirteen year old kid ripping mess out of. The biggest amp, they can find an. Awful For Day out, there's a lot more where that came from go check out the relevant podcasts instagram or twitter feed for the more is really funny stuff. Okay. It's time for this week's. Work. At the beginning of the show. Jesse was telling us that part of his new fall routine coming back to life. He's a veteran out more. He's taking the UBERS. And he does his memorable ride got US thinking about memorable or awkward uncomfortable. UBER EXPERIENCES WE WANNA know your most awkward over experience. We've all had it. We've all had that driver. We've all we've all got over story. So hit US UP ON TWITTER AT RANDOM PODCASTS or you can post on this episode page and the comments at the relevant magazine Instagram Account. Many. 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Health & Fitness Fact Of The Day: Body Types - 20 Minute Fitness Episode #121

20 Minute Fitness

05:34 min | 1 year ago

Health & Fitness Fact Of The Day: Body Types - 20 Minute Fitness Episode #121

"What is going on everyone. Welcome back to the episode. A twenty minute fitness today wiggins be looking at body types of multi types on whether they should dictate your trading trading your lifestyle and just exploring the more detail but before we head into that a big thing key to US plans to shape shape a building. A Three D. Shutting scale is pretty awesome so definitely check it out at shape scale dot com also very exciting news hour Amazon Alexa as well and you can just say Alexa. Play Health and fitness day by twins minute fitness to him all of these show episodes. So let's get into this nick swim so samatha types was term coined by psychologist W H Sheldon in the nineteen forties and he used it to categorize the human physique and he came up with three quite extreme body types from this the more type actor more fake and measure for more fake so according to Sheldon. HMO's are usually thin skinny the delicate and they have a hard time putting on masks and you must have heard people refers the nowadays. Today's as hard gainers. We have elder malls who are predisposed to having a bit more excess body fat. Their rounder physiques often slower and we have Masimov sue all the muscular time that these annoying people find it easy to put a muscle and can eat high number of calories and still maintain account deficit for example shown that she had a numerical Michael System whereby you write each types. You'd be on a scale of each time. That makes sense is from one to seven. If you're an extreme as more for example and you would be number the one act him off number seven Masimov and number one for more and I'll be oh some time rating so you can see that seven. Would Menial Berry fall towards was being that body types who seven mezin move. You're very good at putting on muscle on one is the other end of the spectrum where you are less like that body types of one actimel north very skinny any lucky person. So you're GONNA see this. Well I think that a lot of different training programs out that a markets wards trading for your body type and the theory is that serving. You'll somatotypes we'll tell you what your ideal training program and Diet program should look like for example coach. Mike even says exactly this that trained for the right body shape deep but I wanted to find out really this legitimate so they go on to say that you do have aspects of each party title is not fixed which is correct but you do have articles like the one from g fit that gives you train moving specifically to folks johnny body parts so for someone who is a extra more for example compound movements trying to help you you gain muscle mass ibew complex cobbs. She can afford to eat moments. You are Lancair physiques. Nsa Do these specific movements for this body type and it's not to say it's Rome because obviously comments great and if your if you are a slight to build an eating within a calorie surplus is the thing that we would recommend but does is it really needs to dictate exactly how you should train or how you should eat or how you should live your life certainly real in the sense. Some people are not tall. Some things my shorts Mathiason Samatha muscular. But how much truth. You should really do this specific training program because you all built what this should necessarily guide your decisions Tweeden how to exercise. Because this isn't what types rashly developed for the big Horn was mustache. Ready as the description of your body at one point in time on your body can change on the face of it. The master typing system does sound quite legitimate concern. This seems appropriate to categorize people into different body types. Because we know people have been off carrying the weight the whole life we are fitter whenever people typically to a more fig so they've been training type essentially the whole life. The eighteen seem into putting on not much muscle. But this doesn't necessarily stay fix just mentioned recently this theory starting to be discounted first and foremost saying that you can classify people into three. Categories isn't necessarily trae oversee people have different body types there is the ranking system. So you do have aspects of each still. Three categories is quite a narrow narrow secondly the customization system changes and evolves the classification system isn't fixed we changeable upbringing can dictate was body type. We during childhood adolescent years but this can develop as restarts dictator in lifestyles. More more results were accountable if we start to eat different foods while the motions presented in front of us and and over genetics everything plays a considerable role in the terminate individuals and the the differences. Obviously we inherit traits from relatives of the Paul. We follow also has a a massive influence all determining our body type if slightly slightly build prosperity each lost a train hard and I'm constantly consistently in a calorie surplus than oversea my body Type will start to develop and start to build a more muscular well-developed Zeke. So although there is a place with semester types it does does seem to be fixed and we shouldn't treat them not they all because this woman's limits what we believe with capable of we didn't want to innovate so other fitness gurus attending that. Because we're not going to be able to lose weight always gonNA be slightly rounder. And because for him we don't want to be told to become muscle. Mass always always gonNA stay. Why Nike for example? You should realize that this is isn't a fixed thing and we do develop as people and we can also manipulate our body shape through the way we lead our lifestyle. That's my two cents on it. I hope you enjoy learning about some types and just learning but they aren't necessarily will allow cracked up today but have enjoyed catchy very soon.

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Let's Chat Fat with Dietitian Harriet Walker

Body Science Podcast Series

57:51 min | 1 year ago

Let's Chat Fat with Dietitian Harriet Walker

"We're going to this week's podcast with me. Harry Walker Dr Titian big stone lifter atlas stones Greg. You have to qualify that audio. We're gonna talk about fat. We're gonna chew the fact that the ninth Earl intrigue. Okay. Well, let's bring it on. Welcome to the body sides podcast bringing you everything you need once and should know about health, fitness, nutrition and training as always the inflammation, put copies for the summation purposes only, and he's not designed to diagnose treat prevent or many any injury disease or other health related condition. This podcast is brought to you by hydroxy Boone shred getting the fat burning zone, both physically and mentally with these partners combination of them genyk fat burners and boosting new tropic ingredients scientifically designed to help you reach your white Los goals. Destroy stubborn fat cells speed metabolism boost energy and improve your mood with an industry leading full grams of acetyl L carnitine, plus green tea, extract, Arana and hydroxy citric acid hydroxy burn shred. We'll take your training and weight loss journey to our whole new level. Welcome to the home of fit happy and healthy where body science HQ in with me. It's everyone's favorite door. Titian Herod woke us slip Pri, the fifty light a Greg. Thank you. It's good to be back. And we got a big topic here. We're gonna talk about we pulled Harry and talk about fat today. We're going to just let me Rabo. She said I had two Cy way guy into John. We chewing the fat on fats fat digestion metabolism tops of fat saturated fats and unsaturated fats. What are the best sources? In your body little personal. Fat intake. This is what I get for trying to be organized, Greg. It's very helped when you do that just say, so let's let's not Mike around. Let's talk about it. Yeah. Let's let's jump right on so fat as a macaroni nutrient macaroni, Trent is a very controversial topic. I mean, it's something that you know, he's in fashion some weeks he's out of fashion other week. It is the curing all sorts of diseases one week. And then you know, there's a lot of misinformation. So as always what I liked to do e stop from the top give a general explanation about what fats are how they act in the body were there, all and we can kind of work backwards from there and get into some of them on T, greedy, topics. So we're gonna talk about fat and rolls fat rolls fat rolls. Greg were talking about rolls of fat showing my little vegetation. Can we just sit back for those people that unused? Why do we call it? A macaroni nutrient so macro nutrient macro, meaning lodge nutrient meaning source of sustenance, we need to eight. Lodge amount of fats cobs and protein are three macaroni nutrients. We need to eight them in large amounts h day to provide energy so within cobs fats and proteins their bones, which get broken to yield energy. And that's why we need macronutrients. Like, I can you explain what that is. I fat is it a compound. So basically, it's a string of cobblestones that gets broken down for energy fats can be in short chains medium trains along chains. And that's how we classify them so hurricane tell us about the different chains of fat like water do people need to understand. It comes down to the chemistry the way in which the molecules of fat broken down in the body and built up in the body and the same way we look at prior tain brain being broken down into a Maino acids as the individual building blocks, and when we break down long like chains branches of carbohydrate, we get broken down into sugars and the same thing happens with fats. We have is long chain fats. I might get broken down into. Moley units in order for them to be absorbed and used as energy or stored. So when we look at the chemistry of fats, if you think about like, a centipede you've got the middle part of the fat, which is Kaban so little Kaban unit. So little bowls carbon carbon carbon carbon Kaban and what's coming out as the little legs, hydrogen atoms. So that's just the chemistry you'd have to go into a little bit more detail. And that's probably offensively simple. Everything about a little send to pay got Kaban backbone, and then you've got little h hodgin legs. And this is how it's important to sort of understand that stuff when we saw looking at how fats broken down in the body. But yeah. So when we consume fat dot tree fat. It's are really rich energy source. So the so it's useful essentially only has a lot of different roles in the body. You know, we use it as an g that says a primary thing, but it also has biological uses. So that's when we start looking at breaking down, the topic of fat into the fat that stored and then we have the biologically active fats, like essential fatty acids. Actually have a rolling like cell membranes hormones as well absorption of vitamins day. And k yes, so we can we can really break fats down into fat as a macro nutrient in comparison to cubs fats pertain. And then once we have that one topic we can look at the chemical makeup of that. So we look at one on saturated polyunsaturated and saturated fats, and they all have different properties that we use to sort of classify them and how they use the body is. Well, so yeah, I mean, we consume fat diet. It gets of breaking down goes through to the school in small intestine X gets broken down by enzymes in the gut gets chopped up into smaller particles in the same way at Kaba hydrates, get broken down into sugars proteins, get breaking down into amino acids. We break these down because I can't be absorbed Streit into the bloodstream the thing with fat ease that its hydrophobic water phobic. So we know that when you see in the tub of wash. Up water the globules of fat sitting on it. Scared of water doesn't click with water. So because how the human body is made up of seventy eighty percent water fat requires certain certain pathway for breakdown in order for it to be absorbed. So it has to get packaged up. So we consume fat it gets broken down into smaller units in the stomach, and then it gets absorbed through into it gets packaged up into these little packages, code collar microns. So they are small kind of like a kindle surprise. Maybe. Chocolate. We'll get it. Yes. I think about it's like a little container that helps it be carried through the lymphocytic system and fat goes into the lymphatic compiler capillaries, which is basically like the blood system in our body, and it gets taken through they up into the hot the hot sophis- place with that skit used like hot gets the first dibs on fat. And then it can be used elsewhere in the body as energy or it can be stored for later on which is you know, one on one of how fat is working in body. And then we can work backwards into why we why we need it. And some of the other more controversial topics fats for those of us notice educators, you the heart gets first dibs on fire. So if you eat a massive fatty meal. Yes, what are you doing? Well, I mean like with everything in excess body wants to make sure that we go back to that homies stay. So I if I were my favorite word, so Inexa body consumes a large chunk of fat it gets broken down. It gets packaged up into those little kindle. Fries collar microns tiny tiny little things that can travel through the lymphatic system. Once a hot sort of, you know, decide whether it needs the Energia whether that needs to be stored. It goes away if eight nexus we are going to be storing that excess those excess fatty acids in sales as lipids so during that process of where the fuck goes in the body is that putting stress on the hot weather. I don't think as a matter of stress per se, I think what puts was on just thinking like hamburgers gone through the heart. No, I will want that side. It's been broken down quite heavily. So it's not necessarily putting a load on the heart. I think you know, a body always works really well to drip, fade and whatnot. What's going to put pressure on a heart is more like increase blood pressure? You know, those sort of lost all impacts of having high blood pressure. That's not that's probably more likely to put pressure on the hob Jose than say, a lodge dodge reload of energy and our bodies, very efficient at funneling existed Jiawei into adipose tissue, which is our. Tissue. So that we have it there for next time, which I look at big question. That's right around a bit around may. And I'll get this question. All the time is the Amiga three six ratio. Does his matter of heard stories of people that eat too much cheeky in Harney me seeks and causes struggles with the mega three, and it's an interesting topic. And I think this is really come up when we talk. Well, when we're looking from an evolutionary dot perspective, we used to consume a diet that was I think my retake step back and say mega six and a mega threes are essential fatty acids. So essential means we cannot consume them in our diet, and I both have biological impacts in our dot. So we need those fatty acids for anti inflammatory purposes, we need those fats full cell membranes. So we use fat biologically has always talking about earlier. So we can get a mega seeks as Anamika threes from blows plant sources. And animals horses. So we're gonna talk about that in a second. Yes, I look forward to it. So if you think about remember we've talked about iron before you've got your plant based on sources and your animal based on sources. It's a similar concept. Are we can get a mega threes and seeks his from plants, but I need to be converted. The second step. I need to be converted into the DHA API version, which is bioavailable for the body. And so there is there is a ratio we consume fats. We also get a certain amount of a mega threes. We got to set and met of mega sixes dependent on what sources we get those from and they both play crucial roles in our body. So before we get started on one's good ones. Bad and playing good cop bad cop, which is really fun in the nutrition world, but his never really the case we need to look at that both mega threes and make a six essential fatty acids play an important role wash. Where looking at in terms of ratios is always waiting too much of one at the detriment to not eating enough of the other two they crowd each other out. Out from an evolutionary perspective. It's appears that we used to eight close to a one to one ratio. There's different theories on so one for everyone unitive seeks we would have one unit of three these days. We get a mega sixes allot more frequently, you know, diet, mainly western dot Holly processor, a lot more vegetable oils being used which are rich in Amiga six fatty acids used in processing foods, we've also see a sort of a slight decline in a mega three consumption Australia. I mean, obviously, the the first thing people think of his salmon as a fatty acid source Amigas, a mega three all people taking fish oil, tablets. So this the two most common things vegetable oils versus fish, and we don't tend to eight as much as we used to. So people have gone and looked at other dies more traditional diets. And I can see that. Traditionally it was probably more one to one ratio these days. It's probably more like it could be anywhere from like twenty six forty a mega six. Depending on what study of red and like one a mega three fatty acid will give or take this not quite being accurate with those numbers. But the the ratio is far outweighing they make a Sixers afar Wang, the intake of me trays, and so in theory that may put us in a imbalanced state in the body. So if I can just throw scenario at you love via scenarios the whole world eating like going out to restaurants where we're not prepping as much of militia mad food prep when not prepping as Saudi as much food. We used to were enjoying the social aspects of life and eating, and you know, I just jumping Instagram if you don't see the picture of something that looks yummy. So traditionally restaurants going to buy the cheapest oil they can buy. Yes. Correct. Okay. Vegetable based oil. Yes there. So we're talking about people getting a lot of Amiga six at eight Adul order food in and do their own meal. Perfect. Is this is this an issue? Liz does this is to have long-term issues for us. Obviously, you do it once a week. It's probably not gonna have a big impact. But if you had a lot it's an issue. You on a few different levels. Now, I think they made it major reaction when you say that a Megan sixes a deemed pro inflammatory, they increase in inflammation versus a mega threes, which are more associated with anti inflammatory properties. So stride away think a will mega six must be bad and make threes must be good. And so the knee jerk reaction is will we need to eight more threes, which is, you know, in football, intents and purposes would be probably a good thing when we look at our food system today, we do see a lot more processed oils, which are rich and Amiga sixes, but oral so probably devoid of any other kind of nutrient. So when we ate whole foods, we all getting we might be getting a source of fats, but we're generally also getting nutrients as well as they used is when we got those highly processed foods, we're eating out more what we're ating where expose more mega sixes because of the processing that shape, they've commercially. You know, that's profitable to use those. And they're also crowding out the good fats that we might be getting in our DOD if we were. Good for you. So when people say that's a bad for you. It's like it was very nuanced topic we need to look at where the source of fat is coming from what other nutrients might we be getting from it. And you know, we with fraud fat stern when come sort of Cobb hundreds as well. So it tends to be when we're eating consuming a diet rich in takeaway foods, we are getting a lot of everything. So we can't just pin. It on Amiga seeks is cleaning restaurant and bullets beautiful meal. Mating clean, and they don't talk about the fact they used so we can show him. It's official visual some calling look assumption. So what problem and I'm going to hop on festival bit because it's a topic that in my like everybody wants to talk about fats rather eating it away. Harding from it. It's gone middle ground. Really so firstly. Why do we use a mega six in that aspect? I mean, she says cheaper. So it's obviously a mass produced whereas the mega six vegetable. Because when you when you think vegetable oil, you think Knauss being plight or vegetables all oil, rob and on getting this. And I'm getting all these really cool stuff. You know what he's vegetable vegetable. Well, oil is like kind of like mystery mate, you know, it could come from anywhere. Very commonly be soybean oil and might be canola oil. It could be like it's a plant based oil, basically, and it's been processed because it needs to be commercially fats by themselves oxidized I react with oxygen and they become author rancid. So you leave butter out. You know, it can it can go rancid so fat in of itself is not very shelf stable so in order to make a fat lost Longa and to be able to be transported to the other side of the country across across the world. They need to process it. So the process uses a number of different steps, but include removing the like changing the chemical structure of it. They do like deodorize ation. So they make it a neutral taste, and in some cases, that's good for cooking. You don't want the fat to have a really strong taste as well. So they, you know, there's part of its food sort of food taste, though, sort of properties in the other part of it is it needs to be commercially. Like, you know, you need to be able to sit on the shelf like. Five years, we use the cheap sort of plant based oil to produce these fats in very large amounts. And they probably the ones that we need to sort of focusing on a major seeks in and of itself is it's useful. In the buddy. We just need to look at where else horses are coming from. And what what we're swapping out in place of them. So people say automatically, oh, we need to get rid of saturated fat. Oh, you to get rid of these on that? And what what's replacing it is probably a more pertinent question than just demonizing. The fat itself. That's interesting you saturate onset tried to what what is important thing. He may get three mega six million on unsaturated saturated. I now we've got a big podcast, Montauk and all this. But all of a sudden the answer right now. Said it's everybody else. Like, what is the important thing that we should look for when we're picking a fat sauce. Well, like like, I said before like, I mean, the denominated MCAT's Asami. That's where it's going. Yeah. Of course, I love what we're looking at into of whether what fats Agudo battle Heather actually now, buddy. You know, we've got saturated fats and onset traded fat so saturated fat and on such a determined. According to the chemical structure, so a set shredded fat is generally it is solid at room temperature. So the chemical structure of a set tried fat may also it's on on on on bite. They liar over each other. I said only solid at room temperature on such red fats have abandoned there's a another chemical compound, which means that it's bent, which means is liquid at room temperature. And so there there's Bain racer ch- looking at whether saturated fat, you know, increases risk of heart disease increases cholesterol, and leads to pool hot health. I think we're sort of loosening up the messaging around saturated fat, but we do need to look at is the quality of food from which. We're getting a fence from. So if we are replacing butter, which is rich in saturated fats to a Hudhra genetic. We'll which doesn't have any other nutrients in earned. I would say that problem. You know, we need to just be careful with what we're replacing things before placing fat with high carbohydrate diets that are highly processed that's a problem too. So it can I ask that question. Why do we need to be careful? Well, I mean, Ray search has been done looking at on a population level, which diet leads the best health outcomes. And there was early studies that have done in the one thousand nine hundred eighty s earlier that looked at populations who had the most risk of heart disease risk of mortality, and what tended what the train was coming out. Was that dots that were rich in saturated fats tend to to die early on put simply, but I think with more racer and with better understanding of dot tree patents and whatnot. That message turned into. You know, all fat is bad replace it with Cobb. Hydrates and that came at a time when we were finding Kaba hydrates even further than your whole grain. So we weren't replacing saturated fats. We whole grains. We were placing such rated vets with Holly, processed Suga what flowers and that kind of stuff. So the message was replaced fats with Kaba hydrates we will reduce mortality, right? You'll live longer your heart will be more healthy. It's not to say that still we need to be gift. We don't need to be careful with the fat levels not diet because there is a link between the you know, the fact that you consume and your blood lipid profile. So we're talking about cholesterol levels LDL being the less optimal level in the blood HDL being the more healthy cholesterol that we're looking at not confusing. It certainly isn't. No, no. If you haven't picked us up by nail look, I I can't help you know, it absolutely is a very tricky toffee. I'm giving them trying to be sort of as top level as possible. We can definitely dig down into this a little bit more. But on the for general purposes, look at you know. Traded that has been associated with increased risk of heart disease. And you're talking about some research where they look at Hoppy Datta there. Yeah. So are you looking for someone who just eats cetera federal day? How do you actually says a proportion of the diet had you like what type of populations would they looked at it? Look at our one of the one of the studies looks at different countries. It's controversial stuff. Like it. See no would all the results reported properly. You know, used is if you had a crunch that data would you have given the same people looked at you know, epidemiological studies did the population. Like, what was the population aiding on a regular basis? It's not pure saturated fat. It's as a proportion of the diet. What level such road would they consuming and the general consensus was that way that was high at trash fat? They might have been an increase risk. I think look dazed is a much more nuanced message, which is we do still need to be aware of saturated fats in high levels, which impacting blood lipid levels. It's, you know, not that bad was increasing blood lipid levels. We get, you know, increase risk of heart disease, and it's associated we sort of hardening of the arteries increase risk of like plots being formed on the. The blood vessels in the body as well, which leads to the sort of hot disease. And then also, you know, we're looking yeah. Let's heart health in general, basically, a diet that ease anti inflammatory rich and a mega threes and some Amiga Sixers from unprocessed horses with a little bit of saturated fat. I think ten percent of the dodge tree fats coming from saturated fat is like it's not like highly restrictive. It's consuming a broad variety from unprocessed sources would be a really good message focusing on the monounsaturated and the polyunsaturated fats which have with positive health benefits, and the sort of the patent of eighteen that we're looking at is the Mediterranean-style type, which is reaching a meager rich rich in Amiga three fatty acids, but also rich in those monounsaturated fats. So yeah, like, we're look or people like traditionally we've looked at because nutrition. Dada is like it's notoriously Hodge to pin down a single nutrient. And we've we're moving away from single nutrient like target. Eating and we're looking at dodger patterns now, what is the general gist of what you're eating on a regular basis and instead of trying to say, it's saturated fat. That's what it is. It's probably not just such rated fat. It's probably not amazing. Oh, yeah. Just put it up on her energy, right? No, no. We're not looking at single nutrients anymore. I think it's really Remy's to look at single nutrients that we need to look at Daughtry patent. And that's what we've tried to do in the past. I think with more information and bid a tools to analyze Datta. We're finding that probably the message that was originally Santa Monica have been taken the right way and saw that more fine Cup hundreds of being consumed potentially. And also not the only component that's leading to sort of heart disease risk as well. So we take step back and look at Fettes we need fat. It is really important the diet. I Megan three fatty acids associated with reduced implemention a mega six fatty acids are still very necessary in the diet. We just want to make sure there's a balance there. We wanna make sure that we're getting monounsaturated fats. You know, we're looking at things like olive oils. Not Said's avocado as being those rich sort of fat sources rich in monounsaturated fat. We wanna make sure that we're getting a balance. And when not I suppose what going back to what you were saying earlier, if we're producing most of our food at home, we really don't have to think as much about this as we're talking about right now, like becomes very complicated. But as soon as you start making more of your own food, and and looking at the food that you can see me you can kind of say that. Yeah. That's probably going to be more nutrients than the highly processed oil over there scenario because all throwing those at you. It's good women at a breakfast this week with the crew. Yup. So there was a fair bit of eg biking. Avocado heating place. Yep. Great great. Yeah. Let's look it comes down to also the amounts. So next question is going to be to you. Should we fetes in the morning? The middle of the day the end of the day like sorta see heavy fat mornings. Heavy fat Dina's yet launched on on those things. Eat healthy. So we're just one. Let me I'm just talking about. What I see you want to go to restaurants and stuff. There's a lot of steaks and stuff on flights. And so back to the first question not too might look people need to get. Nobody really knows what they should do. You gotta Google. You're going to get up and billion things you're gonna fall into Kato world carnival world vegan worlds. So I wanted to talk Titians nutritionists. And what's the world pushing obviously when I walk into a cafe, and I say all have biking avacado. I have no idea how much fats in that. I'm just thinking Jesus Thais good. Yes. Contest leashes. That's another aspect that we need to look at assistive the deliciousness that he's fat and the way he enjoys it and L Brian enjoys it too. But going back to what you're sort of asking like what like what? And how do we ate fat? The first thing we should have probably covered off earlier on. We're talking about macronutrients is a calorie Clinton of fat. So we know carbs fats protein. Macronutrients fat has nine calories per gram. Protein has four calories per gram. Cobs have full calories Pegram's straight away. You can see. That fats have over double the energy Graham, an old fat Socratic on that department. Yep. Calorie-for-calorie they some of them can react differently in the body. We can talk about that in terms of em empty Toya's Louis later on but for the whole yet. So I can say that if I have a calorie budget of two thousand calories, and I want to eight lots of food I'm gonna use up my calorie budget pretty quickly if I'm really fat dominant. And this is before we start looking at tops and qualities of fat. So we start with the calorie budget and look at what proportion is coming from fats. We wanna say general rule some twenty-five to sixty percent of daily calorie intake coming from fetes and some people use the the number the figure of one grand peculiar Budi. Why does the minimum that Michael up down, just depending? But this as a rule of thumb throw that one out there, you know. So once we are how much fat we need to eight. How you distributed across the day, you know, a pot of that going to be personal preference. But also when we look at the properties of fat, you know, I'll stomach that help. You feel full. So that's a really good thing. And plus it slows it Doug just like the emptying gastric emptying stomach. So it helps you feel full of longer. Our mouth is his mouth feel that fat has so psychologically when you look at that free foods notice tasty straightaway. Now says recip- Phyo. Yep. That's really smooth. Nice sukey texture in my mouth, take the fed away not really interested in that food anymore. So when you look at Dr tree products, what you'll say when they're low fat is they've tried to mimic that mouth feel with fat with thickness because that's what we get in math and gives us that perception of this is delicious, I'm really enjoying this. And then it gets digested, obviously for energy purposes. But when we're consuming food for pleasure fats, a really important part of, you know, adult so when we start restricting F at you know, food doesn't taste as good. So when it comes to how much fat we ate. We're looking at a percentage. I okay, she'll be about twenty five percent. Then we're looking at total deli calorie budget, which will. Tell us to how many grams I ended up salute MENA y'all we getting from fat, and then we can start choosing. Okay. What types of fat? Am I going to have? And this is when we can make it super simple. We just want to choose foods that are as unprocessed as possible that looks like kind of where it came from following. You know, when we're looking at the Mediterranean is one that has been researched really heavily and the has shown to have the best health benefits. We're looking at things like nuts. Said's oily fish olive oil, avocado. So you can sort of look at your diet look at where these sources of fats coming from if they've got a little bit of color to them, or you know, they look like food as opposed to the yellows and Browns of Frau fraud food, just visually you can start making better choices, and that's really put simply, but when we're eating out quite a lot. If you were having, you know, you look at the balance of the died as well. So you know, how you distribute your fat intake across the day really comes down to personal preference. But as a general rule, I locked to make sure there's a healthy source of fat in. Everyone in my meals full that settled he factor in just straight up is I know that when I don't have a little bit of fat in my breakfast on my lunch or my DNA. You know, I'd I'd have that same satisfaction as if I've had a little bit of fat. But you know, there was a trend in the early nineties when we'll going low fat. And that wasn't a good idea. Either. You know, we know a biologically we need fat to run body in new four all the purposes is sort have described earlier we need fat full hormones for messages for sale membranes bottom or absorption. So when we we do these knee jerk reactions like, well, I found this out comment must be bad. It's never good or bad. It's like it's somewhere in between them. And we know lax actually with men when they go completely low like in bodybuilding populations. We say testosterone production like hormone production easing paid because of low fat diets, we just need to make sure that we're not, you know, we don't he won pace of information to get old that seat we need to look at the quality. And where the food sources all coming from. And how process they are in general. That's the best lens to look at any sort of dietary approach. I would say no so twenty five to thirty percent of calories fats. What about if I'm eating for athletic performance? You look we we need fat for energy, especially died today. Fat snowboarding in g requires more oxygen oxygen to be broken down and burnt his energy. So it's a slow energy fuel source, which in some cases is a good thing. You know, it gives us a steady source of energy. But from a sports nutrition perspective, I like to explain it is if you wanna go far we're going on fats. If you wanna go fast you going on coms, and if you wanna win it's definitely going to be kind of a hydrates for that short shop energy burst purely for the fact that body takes longer to produce energy from fats. Good slow, Ben, but Kaba hydrates are going to give that Quique short shop and g boosts. So at the end of the day is the same boring old. Maybe we need a bit above. But also, you know, we've talked before about metabolic flexibility. I won't my body to be out to efficiently use. Let's I want my body to be officially using Kaba hydrates as well. I've read don't see much benefit in having to choose one of the other one have both as I say simple. We've all been chatting for war. We definitely want. An I can MCAT oils help with fat loss. Look that's a big question. The big question. So boy bottle of sucking download I loan. Well, once you've had one study when you said, it's it's helped with fat loss, and you should automatically just swap out all your calories for MCAT oil. But first of all we need to take step back and look at what MC stands for it is a medium chain, triglycerides. Most of the time is derived from coconut oil, which is the basis of the coconut oil fad phase craze, you know, coconut fixes everything. Greg. Rebel patch? You can put all. Cooking oil bad boyfriend. Just put some coconut oil on him to fix his everything. But boyfriend there you go. Boss for fear of you out there. So MCAT oils when we looking at the ways in which fats digested, we know that long chain longer bigger chains of fats have to be broken down extensively, and then they have to be shuttled in and out of the cell. So using the connotation shuttle, this is very basic stuff as it's not basic. I'm giving a basic explanation of long chain fatty acids get broken down, but I needed to be shuttled in and out of the hill using like a number of different metabolic processes MCAT oils can be utilized in the body a lot faster. There is some racer indicating that MCAT oils can assist in white loss. It's associated with increased society, and it's also increase with increased Thermo Genesis or hate production. So some of the studies have looked at adding MCAT oils to a meal to sane studies. Where they've had equal portions of pasta tomato sauce with MCAT oils. Pasta sauce with. Long chain fatty acids or long chain fatty acids, and then a sort of a control, and they saw that the group that will consuming MCAT oils in the meal had a slot increase in the metabolic right associated with MCI toil consumption, and this has been sort of replicated a couple of times like we're saying the same sort of trained with use of MCAT oils. And we also see that they ask food food lighter. And they the small study. So we just looking you know, we're still trying to build a peach here, and that also I less than ex meal. So the racer which is sort of has the body of research around C to ios has kind of showing that this probably maybe like a fifty to a hundred calorie metabolic benefit to consuming MCAT oils in the diet, but what we also have to keep in mind dis. So we see an increase in the finnick effect of foods so t F when we consume MC coils. One of these studies showed that there was a twelve percent increase in oxygen. Consumption, which indicates the the metabolic right has ticked up. It's cute. Not lost in so far is that meal lasts then with long chain fatty acids. We only saw full percent increase in metabolic, right whilst consuming that meal. So you know, we can say that maybe by having MCAT oils in a meal, we might be getting a slight benefit. But we also say that the Setai is when I say society, I mean, like the satisfaction of the meal Maine's people eighteen satisfied long between meals which not give a little bit of extra benefit in terms of ating lists by Venise starts on that versus produce. Because obviously that produce right around that area as well. I know this semi off the top of my head with protein, but we also know that that protein has quite a high defect in the body as well. Which is what's also associated with assisting white losses. Well, so we're looking at like a mild sort of very mild benefit in terms of replacing long chain fatty acids with mating chain. And we're also saying that behavioral aspect where people are less likely to want to eight, but it is quite small. It's small so what we would say is that look we're getting MCTL's mainly from coconut oil. All we crowding out like, you know, by replacing other sources with MCAT always losing out any nutrients. It might be a tool that someone might use to assist with white loss. But it is not a weightless tool, but self is not going to get you any way quickly as long like if you not into calorie deficit taking MCAT oils in large doses. More likely to put you over your calorie budget than it is to be unday calorie budget, if that makes sense. So again, this is one of those things whether racer which is indicating that there may be a benefit to using MCAT oils. It's also inefficient energy source coffee these days, and I yeah, look at when we're looking at the coffee sort of thing they're looking at a reduces the impact of the caffeine. I'm not release. It of across the the ins and outs of that. I have. I've been in the past but not right now. But it's more from the energy source. It's sort of it's a it's a clean energy. They're saying energy source that is easy to use. So, you know, it's quick quicken. Gene fats a slow burning energy than say Kaba hydrates protein. So that sustained in g factor. They so it is it is definitely a tool that you would have on the whole when you're in a calorie deficit Imachi that little bit of extra Boone across the day. But you know, standalone by itself, it's not a magic bullet. That's just a general thing with all things white loss, we need to look at exercise. We need to look at dot quality. We need to look at calorie and tank, we need to look at macro nutrient profile of the diet, we need to look at behaviors and little things like caffeine little things like C T oils little things those a little one percent is that we once we've got the dot next size under ramps using MCAT oils might be something that someone might enjoy and might be a tool that they use. But again, it's sort of you know, we're looking at maybe fifty calories extra bent. Today, and maybe reduction in the calories consumed because of society, so that's how we might be assisting with white loss with it as well. So the big question around him too easy for him going on a weight loss dot weightless journey. Whatever word you want to use. No, you're not big on those all those terms. Should I be considering getting MCAT into my daily? Dr it I would say that it could be a tool that some people who enjoy will FA looking at changing the fat profile that dot it'd be one tool that I look at all fats are going to improve Sitadi, and we can see here because of the mechanisms around which C T oils I consume. But is it is it's more impact. I wouldn't say it's again the bullet. But it could be something, you know, if you shoot that way inclined. You might look at MCAT oils is one of the tools at ease new tool kit to help reduce calorie consumption to release white one of us cute. Our people, we know MC taste raw. So we're gonna roll on from that luck. Can we touch back on vegetable that was just a little bit MCAT, which we've proved much put out a good fat is that. Is that a good term to use? It's it's not fat. It's fat. It's a functional. Here we go. Bring on the door Titian, functional fat modesty mice reimpose eighty more functional fat, it may be useful as a part of a balanced diet. Greg United me. Exclude anything groups voice, still waking. So you're putting it in the same category. As average boils MCTL's. No, look, coconut oil fat was your word. You said it's a fat. Coconut oil is a fat. It happens to be rich and MCAT oils. Brings a nice flavor to food can be great. As a moisturizer? Is it going to save you from chronic disease? Probably not. But when we're putting it against vegetable oils, which I- mile to Harriet Walker athleti aiding bring it on wondrously moisturised coconut oils skin. No. But when we're looking at and vegetable oils, coconut oil going to be the next vigil and fifteen years to on. That's what I'm trying to get vegetable we will once was glued. Now coconut oil lease in every menu. And every daughter I look at these days yet, the new vegetable oil in ten years on all it could very well be like it. It's hard to know. It's everything in honor. Great, blah. She's. You are telling us the truth. Not gillians. What we want to hear? I'm trying. There's a massive difference trying. So please tell me it's gluten let's move on. Yeah. It'll do it'll do it'll do. Okay. Let's go to the big bad boy saturated fat what he you guys recommend. What we're looking at a lot of us Kito carnival people hanging out they freely cognisant up. The dodge trends today, which include Katie genyk diets, which may or may not be hindsight trade fat if you chose. Very small one eight a keta genyk diet that is full of really nutrient dense foods or you can eat a Kate genyk diet that is full of fried crap. You know, so it's the same as what about more heavily mabul piece of meat. Why geeze delicious, that's that's a whole nother kettle of fish saturated fat. You know, like we discussed before is this increased excess consumption of saturated fat is associated with hot does as and I think that is still on the ride we still need to be caller twenty five to thirty percent of calories from fat. Yes. So how much of that twenty five? We don't want more than ten percent coming from saturated fat, although total calorie intake Ovau fat. So look if you're not deliberately trying a saturated fat. It's actually not a it's not a will happen. If we totally void question. My don't think anything really would happen. I think it's hard to avoid it. If you're eating mate, there is a level of saturated fat animal products. Absolutely. There is a large group of people who donate me. There's a large group of people who don't may. So what happens wis to as long as we're still getting out of L dot tree fats from plant based sources as fine. We're still getting central fatty acids, we do need to eight a larger amount of essential fatty acids, if we get them from plant plans because I was discussing with that conversion from the plant based sources into the bioactive essential fatty acids sixes Tereza, but that's okay. Like, that's that you know, where every time we change our diet from like, we go sort of cutting out food groups and whatnot. There is always a risk that we're going to be running into nutrient deficiencies and whatnot assistant matter being aware of how it changes out died up. And how do we if it's a dollar tree approach that suits? You lost only you enjoy for ethical reasons. You wanna follow the nuts? Fine. But you just need to be aware that this might be implications and manage accordingly and his GP question because I've got lots of them when it comes to fat say you are hooking into a be steak. Are there other things you should avoid in that meal around that too low the risk of having more than ten percents? I try to fat on bread with fat cobs with fat. Like, it is true. She's just great. It's it comes. I think it comes down to calorie load like while a buddies are going to be breaking down when you're eating a four hundred gram till you and you're loading up loading up with excess calories and any excess calories. A good it'd be stored as fast, so take short-term calorie control house. Let's just talk of talking about my my general wellbeing. I'm not talking about me. I'm told me about if I am down this pile should I be, and I know you don't like avoiding groups I can grab them later on in the day. But should I be avoiding certain things if I am going to go over my recommendation of the war. I mean, I would I would reduce the portion size of the mate that you're. Teaming. I don't know. That's boring as well. Yes. So boring, but looked as you know, in terms of nutrient partitioning of that's what I was trying to say is consuming a large amount of fat going to be interrupting Coppola hydrate metabolism. I should have happened concurrently onto you know, via different pathways. So, you know, the, obviously when we consume Coppola hydrates, I get processed in a different manner to which fat skip process. They also have end up in the lavar where they can be utilized as energy stored as fat or stored as glycogen in the case of carbohydrate. But really, you know is one going to be shutting down the other decide like I'm not sure like body is used to used to consuming mixed meals. There's probably not going to be a major issue with consuming mixed meal and having carbohydrates with your fats it again, it comes down to load and how much is in the meal. I think when people can consume appropriate portion sizes, we don't really need to be asking those questions, I suppose for a long time the world said, gee, if you're gonna eat protein and fat donate cobs. Yeah. There's these Dard methodology thought methodologies that maybe didn't make it into textbooks. But I know the other one if you you know, when I didn't make it into text books. They probably went that grind. But can I just say they all food order can make a difference, and I can make a difference in so much like when we consume like proteins and vegetables, I we tend to eight less and that tends to be less of a gloss aiming response because of the five of slowing down gastric emptying because of the protein helping us Cape full being satiated eating less calories. Fat, hypothetically, I suppose would probably have you know, gastric emptying. And it's actually reduces the glycemic index of a meal if we consume a meal has a source of fat in it a blood glucose levels and knock on respect is heavily. So in some respects, it's it's a good idea to have mixed meals because it does slow that right at which energy into into a system and a caped up body or more, even keel. You know, we know from racer such that, you know, to an extent aiding your vegetables and protein. I will mainly Inglis calories. You more full less glycemic response or good in a practical sense, though. A dark know many people who is going to be like are I'm gonna have this first. And then these I, and this this I like is it practical unless you've got, you know, we're looking at insulin resistance, it might be a practical recommendation to say have some veggies. I have you per ten cope portion first and then go for the rest of the meal, but in terms of whether or not, you know, which ought to have some doesn't really know what which ones come. I it goes into small and test on it gets broken down by the enzymes. And then we'll go in the different pathways associated with cobb's fats and proteins, obviously body has to work harder to. Breakdown stuff when you having lodge meals, but does you know having protein in fats? We I mean, you can only have cobs with pertain, but no cobs with fats and she had her gross to Cuba. I just on. Look at it comes down to again, caloric load as to whether it's going to be fatty on. And and also we need to look at you know, when way a consuming fats and carbs, it's delicious. I'm mo- luckily to eight over eight fats and cobbs together that I am to eight just cobs or just fats like look at this fi. If I have a plane boiled potato, which is carbohydrate rich, and I just consume that the likelihood of made binging out on like, multiple potatoes is very live. If I had a chunk of butter sitting next to me, and the likelihood of made binging out on that very low. If I put the butter on the potato and then sprinkle it with salt, that's delicious. So I wanted can visualize a I want five and the same with donuts if I took the awful vegetable oil in which those doughnuts for fried away. And then just had the DOE a don't really want author of those separately. But when you put fat and cobbs together. Lordy. Lord. It is is just a miracle, and you other coated in sugar coat it in salt. And it is like it's on for young and old. We wanna consume more and more and more of it. So in that respect, I think combinations of food makes a difference. Bobby came from me almost. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's what we get stopped. We saw looking at is. It is it because of the digestive pathways, or is it because of the sort of head Dodig love, you know, it doesn't taste delicious. Yet does something to my Brian. That says I want like five of them, not just one boiled potato. So, you know, there is there is some importance there. But when we look at fats as a toughie, it's a huge one. We're looking at the caloric percentage for Daunte. We're looking at the types of that's that we are consuming. We're looking from cooking perspective the behavioral like the actual behavioral that fat doesn't oxidized as early is it shelf stable. I'm glad you brought that up doesn't cook? Pro plays off on cooking with starting to burn. Yup. Also stories around that. Look I've heard CASA Janik its use. So we get things when we when we cook with fat h has a different smoke point. So smart point is basically win Boone's nuts. Just another property of fat by which we can judge fat. So so how we judge that? We've got types of fats where the fats have come from. And this is another one what fats the best to cook. With. And this comes down to a really practical seeing different fats have different smoke points. And the more refined fats tend to have a higher smoke point. Which is why they really beneficial for cooking with. But we know when we will Boone foods, we get the production of the head tricyclic aiming anes, which have been head Troy cyclic, Amy ins, somebody to make a YouTube clip out of that. She came me. But yeah, what we get ease these production of like, toxic chemicals. And I hate saying the would toxic chemicals because it sounds really profound. But it is literally they they commented knock they reacting bodies Pooley. And then there's other fats that the go high smoke point. So you can fly with them. And I worked produce fat. They've Holly stable at high temperatures. Whereas you've got the other fats that have sort of more health benefits like olive oil say when you start cooking with oil olive oil at a high temperature up because all oil has like a high antioxidant component as well. Which is what's good for you? Once we hate the antioxidant, oxidant anti-oxidants get depleted in in it. So we wanna you know, look at the top of fetzer we cooking with as well. So this is what are we doing with these days, which I mean, all of your legible, oily it easy, and everyone's covered except when I chat to my wife about it a couple of weeks ago. It's not in there anymore. I'm sorry. But which which fat should be looking at. I mean, we walked down on called Woolworths and audio wherever you shop. And yeah, you're is five ten different fat. So I can choose from even getting into more not snail and top of stuff say look Jewish. Traditionally the fats have a more stable at high temperatures for lack of frying. And I'm not saying it's a good thing. But new vegetable oils are good at high temperature, not good. They they're good at high temperature rice Brennan is quite stable at high temperatures pay not oil is what high at high temperatures, and you see these like Asian cooking may not oil. So yet they were with the better ones. But we don't really wanna be encouraging people to fry staff, which is probably my caveat with that. But yeah, like a I mean, I use a lot olive oil for cooking. I don't cook it at high temperatures, and I'm also not consisted probably a less of nutrient dense olive oil like it's a commercial that I'll use for cooking just for lot like pain frying. That would be the one that I would use clearly regulate maybe a rice bran oil for cooking as well. Some people like the taste of cooking oil and they'll use that for cooking because he is quite good at high temperatures, and then the sort of the cold pressed like olive oils, and I've caught oil and some of the of the notch oils, generally, not so good with cooking. They might use them as a salad dressing or over food as well. So the benefits of a co personal it's comes down to sort of antioxidant component because it's not being hated. We're not losing. Yeah. We're not losing the antioxidant component of that. So anytime, we hate something. We tend to lose a bit of the nutrient density of let's get down to the 'nother one storing oil door store in the fridge door stored in the cupboard. What should I be doing with more fats? Yeah. Well, when you look when you look at oils that are sort of liquid when you can keep I keep a good quality olive oil, probably in the French always don't keeping it too long out. There is that risk of oxidation. We do see olive oils, essentially, I'm the leader would stop. Oh, it's a crazy spice. It's being exposed to oxygen in the affordable to oxidized. And that's when we. Get sort of fats going rancid. We can keep all, you know, you'll see a lot of oils are in Dr containers for that reason as well. And then not be keeping, you know. Generally speaking, I'll keeps it effects in the fridge. But you know, oils can be kept on you know, on the on the shelf in fairly stable so term MC too can be in Gluck league loss bottle. That's a good question. Cooking oil. I'm probably could come up with an intelligent answer to that. But. Just because looks good because it looks good. That's probably. Yeah. No, I'm gonna pass next. Oil when you look at it really well to pains like, you know, if it semi solid, you know, when it gets a little bit melted. But a little bit solid still. It doesn't look that. Great. And that's Puglia cynically speaking this no science behind that or intelligence. So we haven't really touched on Amiga noise at all we need to we could. But I, you know, I think for the reasons six is a big topic. That's yeah. Yeah. It is a big topic. I think for sort of simplicity of today, we can go down that path and other die. But we could probably just keep that is another source of study essence that we can discuss. But I think for the whole threes and sixes of the way we should sort of focus energy Fennell. What are we what are we say that fats are like especially like mega threes and sixes a crucial for a brain function. A few even down to like. You like known Cornick diseases in population. And I think the Dixon DACA heck's acid, the D H as associated with Brian Hill, the actual Partha mechanism for that. I'm I'm gonna tell you straight off the top of my head. We know full brain development children. We're definitely looking at making sure that they what those healthy fatty acids in the door and DHA's definitely one of those ones which is associated with brain health. We're also looking at fish oil supplements, if people aren't consuming oily fish on a regular basis for anti-inflammatory properties that we say in mega three fatty acids. So they definitely and it's obviously there's a lot of brands at they're selling. I'm gonna threes. Yes. So you often see that brain health is a low dice, whereas inflammation joint health is he lodged is high dose. Yes. I think a mega threes are associated with Dan, regulating, sitting inflammation, Marcus in. Which is you know, how that I said. Have worked ruin reducing inflammation on a cellular level. And so it might just be dose response. You know for the brain development. We want a Regula what we know froze for some impacts. We want regular low dose, and that's what gets us the results. But maybe if you know in clinical when we've got an actual diagnosis, we Monte that higher DOI's to say the the benefits, and when we're looking at inflammation. We're probably more looking at like, cellular inflammation. We're looking at changing the profile of this the federal acid profile of the the cell interesting since you wanna go I'm going to keep going. I've got a little night. He API in J. The two words you've used when discussing Amigas. Yes. Phillips in because we've all heard about them APA DHA. So their coasts of pin to the. Heck's? Knowing gases die two of the Amiga three fatty acids that we get generally from marine sources oily fish, also give them a little literature. A lot of literature. People talk about API D magazine zone. Yeah. There are essential fatty acids. They're the ones that we're talking about that have those anti inflammatory properties, and the generally the sort of prescribed doses. What race hutch has shown us have those anti inflammatory properties. So can see me we can't get them from the dot. We don't need to supplement them. If we are consuming. I think it's sort of oily fish three times a week is generally what will give us that level of anti inflammatory. And also we go to throw lifestyle into their, you know, we wanna make sure they are exercising healthy died. It's not again, so in a single nutrient. And so there is a make it three s it's play a crucial role in a lot of different functions. You know, caulking function they helped Kepa bloods, you know, blood's flowing wail throughout the body. So there's lot apply a lot of different roles, but it's really important. Colton that we, you know, we're consuming them from dot primarily when you know, not just relying on of fish oil, tablets. I think it's it's it's important to look at the quality of the died as well. Perfect. So get on your Amiga threes and sixes no issue with balance apparently. Ooh. No one courts it. But you pretty much put it out there that it's okay. We need to be mindful of where I'll facts also coming from. And we need to make sure that which using the highest quality mice unprocessed sources. We're looking at not say, it's olive oil, avocado oily fish in the those of the sources are going to be helping improve health because the fatty acid profile, but also because of the other nutrients that are contained in those foods, and then, you know, having a little bit of red meat, which is hindsight tried to fat on regular basis. He's fine. It's it's when we going into the excess of all of these things that we do have a problem when we have an excess of a mega sixes, which is associated that with a diet. That is highly processed. Yeah, we have a problem, you know. And it's crowding out those other healthy festivals is that's when it's a problem. I'm not saying it's not completely a problem is it the only problem that's causing inflammation in the body. Probably not drew things like stress, we've got things lots of different other things that are causing inflammation. So. So, you know, it's just not right to say it is just to make a seeks Amiga three balance of these causing issues with inflammation. We just need to be mindful of where fat sources are coming from. And if they are coming from those less quality sources of fats, and yet it is totally a problem again pinpointing that is the thing that is causing inflammation, the body's just oversimplifying. What is apparently a very complex topic as we have seen today? So just in closing you've mentioned the word inflammation quarter Phoebe that lost ten minutes. We've been churning watching flying. What what is that information? You talking about. Are we talking inflamed joints and find organs when we talk about inflammation? I just want to get the general lowdown. The textbook definition just in general. You talk you've mentioned formation law. What what is so inflammation is a an immune response to a foreign attack on the body. It is required in order for us to heal ourselves. So when I scratched myself, he goes read, that's one step. That readiness is we get hate and readiness up is they're all steps in the body's healing process. So inflammation is is highly necessary. You know, body win inflammation becomes a bad thing is when we a chronically trying to put out FIS in on buddy, innocence long-term, so acute inflammation. Is that readiness that soreness that mate that gets produced which the sign that the body is healing itself? So there's little sales at common and ate up all the debris in the body. And we can clear out, and we can replenish the sills there and fix the body, chronic inflammation is basically, unresolved inflammation. So with acute by the time that that, you know, this is what's happening inside our bodies. By the time that his healed up. We know that it's resolved, whereas long-term inflammation is unresolved inflammation, and it is generally looking at being the root of a lot of different disease pathways, which is why it's not so great for us to be a state of chronic inflammation. And knows what's your big closer on chewing. The fact chewing the fat. We'll as we've seen like it's a really big topic. We need to look at fats in tombs of calories diet being quite Innogy dense. We need to look at fats in tombs all of where they're coming from. And prioritizing fat set off from unprocessed sources that are reaching those mono unsaturated and polyunsaturated fats and a little bit of saturate offense is is fine in the context of a healthy diet. We wanna make sure that we are avoiding fried foods and those hate treated fat to ensure that you know, we're not putting up what he, you know, exposing body to lodge amounts of, you know, those oxidized fat, which aren't so great for health, and we. To make sure that the oils that we do use. So we do use a stored in appropriate fashions, we want them to be cool. We want in dry. So we can look at fats from a broad range of directions. And it's important to to look at it as such. So we're not just demonizing fat as you know. It's what makes you fat. It doesn't in the context of calorie balanced diet and a high quality diet with lots of healthy foods in that that we've discussed earlier fat is just a macro nutrient that we can, you know, enjoy, you know, dawn it and is not definitely again on lacing that needs to be demonize per se. We just need to look at it pragmatically north. Well, thanks for coming into game. We really appreciate it. That was a big one. So was Buffa chewing the fat over and out. Today's podcast was brought to you by a partners in fit happy and healthy. I s n utrition warehouse doi- discount vitamins, fat bone iron -ly Evelyn fi Mr. supplement will find a retitled online at body Sohn's dot com forward slash retailers.

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DV E25: Suzanne Morphew

Drowning Verdict

22:13 min | 3 months ago

DV E25: Suzanne Morphew

"Hey chip mony here if you haven't heard about anchor, it's easiest way to make podcast. Let me explain it's free. There's creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or computer. An anchor will distribute your podcast for you. So he can be heard on spotify apple podcasts at many more you can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place, download the free anchor up or go to. Anchor, FM to get started. Film welcome to drowning verdict. I'm chip Mahoney and you're listening to my true crime podcast. This is a podcast where I talk about cases out there that fascinate me and I go more in depth. So thanks for joining me. You might have found me on my youtube or my twitter, which is a good way to always get the latest episode in that format, and if you like were sample, click the link in the description to get to the full episode, check it out. Most got another podcast called your story or your life. That's true. Crime and compelling persons of interest. So if you sub follow, you'll get that too and just come back from work because when have more for you and you can also find me on just about anywhere you get your favorite podcast. So do what you gotTa do follow me there and come back for more. Lastly, if you've got a business I'd like to promote it. whether it's e commerce, some service I can get those promos on both my shows and help you grow your business as I grow and it get a new microphone or something I need some help. But you know it's tough out there. We'll get through it. That's life. It's twenty twenty. So that's at my co page. It's Kato Dash F I dot Com forward slash Charles Mahoney, and it's my forensics team insider access and promoting your Biz so. They were listening got through the INTRO. Now I'm here with why we're here today. The. Topic I want to talk about an introduce and why it's captured my attention. So I believe if you're listing, you've heard of this case starting to get some more traction out there. We've just had so much going on that. With the big news of Kurna virus and all the stuff that we have to deal with on a daily basis from the major news media always taken our attention. Some of these cases out there they don't get some traction until later on and this one is picking up some traction. It's The woman Suzanne, more few WHO's been missing for over three months. Now, it looks like well, since Mother's Day, which was may tenth of this year. So it's been a while and starting to gain some traction because. You know we're seeing some of these things out there in these other cases, especially, the ones that I've covered with like the day bells for instance and. A case that I'll talk about which happened `bout two years ago. That's. You know we can learn from these things and I think that. When investigators are looking at these cases. They always look at the people closest to the person or persons who disappeared. And a lot of time sets the husband sometimes, it's the the wife. In this case, it's the husband that they've been looking at and I'm just going to give you my take on how I feel about that after doing a lot of research on this stuff and looking at the story maps site, which is really cool which gets a a real indepth kind of overlooked three deep into the life that these people were living where they lived and where the stuff occurred. this is. Basically a town called Maysville Colorado. I know you've never heard of that before I hadn't but that's about three hours south of Denver okay. So you might have been there may be heard about it. It seems pretty darn remote and where these people happen to live Susanna and her her husband I believe it was just them living at the House I know they have Other. Family members I. Don't know through the house who knows but it's really remote to remote place and it looks like the neighbor is Dr. the nearest neighbor looks like it's about a half a mile to. Maybe a mile away. So. Something goes down there. You know how would you hear it just? Just. Seems that way to me? Again. I'm getting my information from story maps DOC, DOT COM, and their overview on this case. In, on that site, if you have checked it out I, think it's really interesting to take a look at it. Because they have videos, they have news reports, they have press releases they have a lot of evidence. There's obviously people that are researching this case trying to Crockett. That's not something that I could ever do I'm not an investigator. So that's just not my job. I'm I'm an author I'm more into story connections, new angles and new insight, and obviously true crime is my forte. That's what I liked. That's what I'm interested in and you know what? If. You've ever read a book like the executioners song a thousand pages of a true crime. Book like that you've got some experience. and. I've read a lot of other stories as well and have some background on this stuff. So. Gives me a little insight as an author that I like to share with you. So, what's my connection here? Well. You know when it comes to the investigative stuff. I always say that the cops keep a Lotta things close to the vest close to the investigation and they let things come to the surface more do a lot of. Background in research and today's world. There's things called cell phone pinging cell phone towers, and they have convicted a lot of. People and their their wrongdoings, basically having their phone on them and being able to ping off of a cell phone tower. So I happen to think that will be really interesting. This case if they get some data there as they did in the day bell case with the brother being on the property where the children's remains were found. So it it kind of builds a A story arc of a time line of where things are happening even though there's no Maybe, confession or there's no interviews, but they can trace and we'll see what happens there. Because that stuff can be damning evidence and I don't know where they are with it right now. But that's one thing that I want to bring up. I'm going to get to some other things here in a minute, but I'm going to dial it back a couple years to August of two, thousand and eighteen. And the resigned going to do that is because in August of two thousand, eighteen man name Chris Watts killed his wife and his his family basically, and you remember that that was in Colorado in a town called Frederick Colorado, which is. kind of in that outside area of Denver. So it's more of A. More of a city area I guess as far as being around Denver as opposed to being in this remote location or there's not a whole lot of neighbor church. I bring up that case for reason, not to say that it is similar to what I'm seeing here. But there are some things that I've thought about. When I look at the The stuff on story maps, for instance, all that evidence that those videos and so forth and I'm reminded about Chris Watts. When he was trying to pull off his little scheming, what he was doing, he was he was caught pie neighbors cameras and all that stuff came to light. But. One thing he really screwed up is he was caught outside of his. Home. On his patio and he was interviewed by the local news. That was like a gift for the local police because they were able to analyze. Ten twenty minutes of him talking and being interviewed by someone who knew how to interview him by an actual local TV news stream reporter and he was just tripping over the lies that he was. He was very uncomfortable. And it made me think about what's going on in this case why? The questions that I would have is why the husband who is Obviously, a focus of the investigation, and that's where all investigations start with these domestic things is like who's closest to the person and what is Ernie motive? So they're always going to look at the spouse. K. If the if they're married, they're going to look at the close the people to that person, which is always a spouse. And so. My question is. From. My author point of view and thinking about Chris Watts is why? Did the husband to his own videos? Why were they so short? Why were they thirty seconds to a minute clips and why didn't he let himself be interviewed by local television about this obviously being on television. Talking about a missing person that's going to be more widespread than you could ever do like in your own kind of recon search but he wouldn't allow that. He's not allowing himself to be on camera and actually be interviewed by someone who knows what they're doing. That's a red flag for me that brings me back to a Chris Watts POW. He basically hung himself on television. And he made he made a big mistake by doing that. I think is ego Kinda got there and he wanted to be in front of the camera and kind of try to convince people, but he was certainly not prepared. Any psychologist or detective knew what they're doing must have just looked at that and just said Yep he's lying here. He's lying here and I just help them build a case against him. So that's my main problem with this. Case, going on right here now. As. Far as the video goes, it seems as if he only does his own videos or he's not gonna obviously lead someone who knows how to interview him actually sit down and do it. That doesn't seem to be the case. But during the the other videos I think from some. kind of random person. It's a story map site just. I. Guess bumped into the husband along this this route where His wife supposedly at disappeared on her bicycle. And the. Questions he was asking the husband. It wasn't much it was he was talking maybe ten percent of the time in the husband was just spewing information. That strange. That's very strange to be doing that. And also some of the things that I caught in his actual verbiage and this is where my author my comes into play is like tenses and speaking. is where the husband said my concerns were. And that's what I'm saying. He said, my concerns were in speaking about the search happening I guess from a sheriff's department. I'm just going to focus on that last word were. Okay. So he's talking to pass tents. He's not saying like concerns are. At least talking in past tense. So I think, that's a key to pick up on. He talked about a two hundred mile search radius. He talked about a two hundred, thousand dollar reward. He talked about a cat. Like a mountain lion cat dragging away. his wife and he didn't seem too concerned about that. He wasn't. Upset or emotional about it, and you just said you know cats do that with their prey. On my question is, has it ever happened in that area And then also a two hundred mile radius search for a mountain lion attack. That seems about a hundred and eighty miles to wide. That's a that's a long search radius for that. Body. A two hundred, thousand dollar reward. So it seems to me that. These are like like pumping up these numbers to make it seem like how worried? Or concerned he has with these big numbers and those big numbers translate to his concern. But here's another thing and this is where I go back to the Chris Watts video and this was something from basically a psychologist point of view and something to think about to chew on. When? You're hearing about stuff like this when the actual person talking who was target or focus. And what they ended up doing is describing their emotions rather than experiencing them. So when they're being interviewed when they're talking, they will say stuff like. I'm so distraught. I'm so upset. Blah Blah, blah, Blah Blah, and they keep talking and talking and talking. But the experience of that being distraught that experience of being upset they are not physically showing. They're not getting red in the face they are not. Crying they're not tearing up there and they don't have to pull himself away from the camera. They don't have to say excuse me I just I'm just overwhelmed at this moment. So the emotions that they are experiencing, they are describing those emotions and that is one of the key factors. That you can take away about somebody who was a target. Of and I go back to Chris Watt because he's a classic example of it of how he explained his emotions. Explain them, but he wasn't experience in them. So. My question is if if this person The husband has interviewed. It seems like in the clips that I've seen that he's explaining things rather than experiencing those things. And so. If you're GONNA, do a video yourself and you only have it for thirty seconds. That's about. Thirty seconds of what you can give. Why isn't that video? Longer. If you're doing wise at longer is at such a short clip and I don't know if it was edited I've no idea. So my opinion that video should be a lot longer in that search radius that reward should be a lot less because I think those numbers of being pumped up to make it seem as if. There's just this all this worry and all this care about it. So those are things to look at in. When people are targeted? and. They're looked at as Chris Wasswa's as anybody would be in a missing missing persons case. And they are. Married to the person WHO's actually missing? So, there's. A lot more information on the story maps about. Where this happened How he was going about it. And also some of the other things that he brought up that. You. Know he was seemed to be focused on. Mount Line attack dragging away the prey. Or? Crashing on the bicycle and going into a river. That seems far-fetched. Or being abducted. While by who who had WANNA abductor was. You. Know if you're GONNA say that. You know you have somebody to to say that maybe that I had a problem with another person who might not be? So all these scenarios are laid out all this information as laid out the video seemed to be done. By that, and then there's no talking directly to the news media who yeah, the news media can twist things they'll do whatever they can do to sell story. If there's a house on fire, they're going to bring a gallon gasoline porn it that's their job if it bleeds, it leads. But if you're truly somebody who is concerned. And you need help. And local news is there They can also help you as well. It just depends on their angles. So Something that you on. Two years ago it was Chris Watts. And You know he he was caught on camera and just a mountain of lies the more he talked the it God and I think because of what happened in Colorado and and A lot of people finding out about that. That's local news national news. I. Think The guy's smart enough to understand that if he indeed. Is. Involved not to be on camera with the local news because they'll get you. Know, the questions asked how to to to trip you up and if you're not prepared. Then it's GonNa look really bad for you. So. Is that happening ear? I don't know. But it's two years later it's in Colorado. They, obviously know about, Chris Watts they obviously saw that on. TV. and. How did it play off them? And couple other things I'm close on here is again looking at some articles out there story maps being the the main places I've gone to look at more information on this case as I've got interested in it Is other questions that I would ask is. You know on a mother's Day. Did it make sense for her to go on a bike ride as it's claimed that she had. How often does she go on a bike ride was something that she did every Sunday or every weekend was at a regular thing for her to do. What time did she normally go on and does she do it by herself? Did she ever go on these bike rides by herself without a friend or without the husband? was just something in her nature. I don't know that but that's something that I would wanna find out. And we'll see about the cell phone ringing because. Is If someone is complicit in a crime. And they know about self cell phone towers they know. About. Ping. Did they somehow take the SIM card out of their phone at that time. Is there no way to trace him at that time of disappearance but on the other days they can paying thus can be some interesting information. Those records are. From the the cellphone side. Those records take a long time to get unless it's a federal case if there's Like a federal investigation going on like over on the table case, there's conspiracy charges and there's federal charges. So with a Ping of the cell phone towers, they were able to get that data a lot faster than they would have in like a state investigation. So that's GonNa be interesting There's no charges right now but if there are and something happens like in the day bell. Case. Where there's conspiracy charges then they can get those records pretty quickly and that's GonNa. That's GONNA be really interesting in how this plays out. So as I understand, there are no charges. There's just speculation whereas she what happened to her no one knew her name before her disappearance now people know it. That's kind of sad you know no one. Knew it now they now they do know it. And it takes you to disappear for somebody to know your name that sucks hopefully she still. Alive awfully if she did disappear was on her own. Behalf, and maybe she'll come back. But it does look like. There could be some foul play. and. It's not so much. The husband that I'm thinking about I'm just thinking about how when you are interviewed when you are truly looking for someone. The behavior that comes out. And Chris. Watts is a perfect shining example of someone who was trying to cover his tracks was lying. And he made the mistake. The absolute worst thing he coulda done what's going on television? That they got him. They got him and then he was caught on the neighbors cameras that came out. Something to think about him. But we'll see we'll see and I will Of course, we know some updates on this looking. For having some new news on this it skinny more traction. The more we get out of the major news media that takes eats up our attention eats up our thoughts. The more that we can focus on what really these other cases that matter and this one matters it's it's something that. Hopefully, it has a happy ending. because I've done so much work on the debut case on my dont drowning verdict in your story, your life is that. That case took about a year a year and a half to get going. There's a lot of evidence and cobbs keep a lot of stuff close to the vest. So we'll see what and if they have any charges if there's anything federal that they can attach to. And get those cell phone towers of paying in such a remote area it'll be interesting to see how they track that. This chip only signing off on drowning verdict. Thanks for joining me. I will see next time by.

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Philadelphia MOVE bombing - May 13, 1985

This Day in History Class

08:41 min | 1 year ago

Philadelphia MOVE bombing - May 13, 1985

"Pillow friends. This is Ron burgundy the entire first season of the Ron burgundy podcast is available now to stream or download and what a season it was Peter dig, which Mr. Deepak Chopra, San Diego chicken, Mr. rupaul, we should get out of this elevated find the Ron burgundy podcast on the free iheartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts. The Ron burgundy podcast. Another reason why I heart radio is number one for podcasts. This day in history class is a production of I heart radio. Hey, I'm eaves and welcome to this day in history class a show that uncovers history one day at a time. Today is may thirteenth twenty nineteen. The day was made thirteenth nineteen eighty five. The only aerial bombing committed by police in the United States took place in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The body was a response to years of escalating conflict between police and move a radical black liberation group. It ended in the death of eleven people and the destruction of dozens of houses. Move with founded in nineteen seventy two by John Africa. Born Vincent lep, art. The early nineteen. Seventies was a turbulent time in American race relations as black power groups organized to demand rights and protested the social ills of contemporary society on top of that opposition to the protected. Vietnam war was causing a lot of political strife. After John Africa served in the Korean war. He became dissatisfied with life in America. John Africa and move advocated for black nationalism and anarchy primitivism, they wanted to return to a hunter gatherer society without modern technology and medicine, they also supported animal rights as they believe that all living beings should be treated ethically. Members of move change their last name to Africa in recognition of their homeland. And the organization was not quiet about its socio political aims move. Members lived communally mainly in west Philadelphia. A big part of move philosophy detailed in three hundred page manifesto known as the teaching of John Africa is self reliance. That means that move members ate raw food composted and scavenged even when in the city, they lived a life close to nature, but their neighbors took issue with their ways of life in how they're. Public demonstrations for racial Justice in animal rights were. In nineteen seventy seven people complained about the way move members lived in how their protests were their neighbors said they had too many animals on their property were violating weapons codes were keeping filthy conditions and refusing to pay utility bills. So the police got a court order that required the groups of AK their compound and pelton village at three seven to three oh nine north thirty third street move agreed to leave the location and give up their weapons if members who were arrested during demonstrations were released from jail, though, police agreed moves did not leave the property. The next year that conflict took a turn for the worst. On August eighth. Nineteen seventy eight police showed up at the compound to execute the court order that turned into a standoff where five firefighters seven police officers. Three move members in three bystanders were hurt. Police officer James j ramp was shot in the back of his neck in died during the. Firefight? Though, there was back and forth over whether the fatal gunshot could have come from a move weapon. Nine move members dubbed the move nine were arrested and convicted of third degree murder. Move transferred to sixty two twenty one osage avenue still in west Philadelphia. They put bunkers in the house and on the roof, and they blasted their message from Bullhorn day and night. Neighbors again complained about the cleanliness of the house and excessive animals and said that move members were committing verbal and physical assaults. So unmade thirteenth nineteen eighty five. Mayor Philadelphia w Wilson good Sint police to the home to execute warrants for the arrest of all the people who lived at the compound, but when police arrived at the house move members did not respond to their demands to let them into the home or to let tildren inside leave police Commissioner Gregoire Sam bore said over a loudspeaker attention move. This is America and began attacking move police. Use fire hoses on the house fumigated. The house with tear-gas then begins shooting thousands of rounds into the compound. A Pennsylvania state police helicopter dropped c four explosives onto the house which caused the fire that was further fueled by gasoline in house because the firefight ensued police let the fire spread rather than Sinden. Firefighters the fire destroyed more than sixty homes and six adults in five children inside the home were killed. John Africa was one of the people who died in the incident. The only move members to survive the attack where Ramona, Africa and birdie Africa. The incident was covered live on television. Philadelphia had become the quote city that bombed itself mayor good enlisted a commission to investigate the bombing in nineteen eighty six the Commission's March. Sixth nineteen Eighty-six report said that negotiations were have hazard the mayor's failure to put into the operation. It was quote, grossly negligent and jogging the bomb was quote unconscionable. The commission declared that the police would not have used the same violent tactics in a white neighborhood. But even though the Commissioner called for a grade jury investigation there were no prosecutions and good. It was reelected in nineteen eighty seven. Ramona Africa was convicted on riot charges and spent seven years in prison she and the family members of two relatives who were killed in attack. One one point five million dollars in a civil suit judgment. The federal jury also found that officials authorized excessive use of force and violated for the moment rights birdie Africa, who was just thirteen at the time of the bombing went back to using the name Michael ward and was placed in his father's custody. Cobbs creek the neighborhood where the compound with located never completely recovered the homes built to replace those destroyed were shoddily constructed. And when the city bought the homes in the early two thousands residents left in droves and twenty eighteen newly rehabbed homes in the neighborhood where ready for sale, though, neighbors were worried about the high prices driving them out. I'm eased f- coat in. Hopefully, you know, a little more about history today than you did yesterday. If you're so inclined you can follow us at t the I h c podcast on Instagram. Facebook and Twitter, we'll be back with more history tomorrow. For more podcasts from iheartradio. Visit the iheartradio app apple podcasts or wherever you listen. 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How Gospel and Pop Learn From Each Other

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How Gospel and Pop Learn From Each Other

"The monthly. We almost nearly extinct. The New York Times pop cast your ordinary just won't do the music news and criticism. I john. Radio. Gone videotapes. I word the quick word. That is people who make albums and don't review music themselves should be unemployed. Elway. JK not really I once piano. I was like seven up just I'm a former trombone player in the band. That's why we. That's just some that. I felt since we're in a in a spiritual mood today. I felt like I wanted to open with a genuine word you were hearing at the beginning. The Coachella Sunday service version of Jesus walks by Kanye west some things I can tell you about Coachella. Just right off the rip early. John does not do early early. That was a challenge. I wanna say all committed religious people who on early on Sunday mornings get it in I salute that that is not my strong suit. We're going to talk today about Sunday service. We're gonna talk about the stellar awards, which is the grams of gospel music, which also happened to air the same day on the service. And we're going to talk about the ways that gospel music has been the DNA gospel has been sneaking into some unexpected places in contemporary, non centrist, popular music, and as I just said brianna younger who is sitting across me right now, if I didn't exist, I don't know this particular episode of podcast with exist. But she does here we're here west and highly favored. Oh, yes. Wow. It's not sunny morning, but we will do our best. We'll try our best brianna younger the music editor at the New Yorker before we get into the specifics of Sunday service. Tell me about your relationship to gospel. I very much grew up in a seven Baptist. Household household. My father was a a member of Columbia house. So he therefore collected million gospels homes, just Mississippi mass choir. All all Richard Smallwood. All that throwback stuff in very much real going to church a refund and was in the choir for Breese fell. I cannot sing don't. That's all right. Other the other forty people are bored. Right, right. Exactly. Yes. I just really love gospel music. I think it's one of the best John res- of music near and dear to my heart, and you'd say on top of it, which is one of the things I'm so grateful for about your writing is. I know you pay attention to this. I feel. And I feel like there's not enough critical attention really devoted to it. Even before the the moment, we're having now like there is so much like intermingling between gospel and other jobs. So it's it's very I think essential to at least be comfortable and familiar with what's going on in the gospel world because so much of it is always informing what's going on in the secular world now as much as ever it's going both directions. So let's talk about gay and one of the things we're talking about just before we started recording is there's some fundamental differences between experiencing that performance live as I did shouts thereby in leukemia, California and through the periscope feed. Which is how you okay? So you start I'm curious to hear your perspective viewing it that way. And what you took away from it. And then all sort of try to say how it lines up or doesn't with what it was like to be there to. Cinematic Lee, I'm just not even entirely sure what that choice was about that whole. I'm looking through a paper towel roll Connie do Sunday service. But at the very least the stream gave you this kind of panoramic, and like bird's eye view of everything which kind of made it very Colt like like the the circle in the middle. And then the choir was in another circle round. And then like those overhead shots were very. Yeah. Signs like circles, and then the audience is like been Stoff in kinda mad far away. And it just kind of seemed like everyone had arrived to worship at the altar of cognac, and that was kind of odd and why what was striking is there. It didn't feel that way. I actually spent a not insignificant portion of the performance trying to figure out where Kanye was like literally he wasn't on the feet a lot either. It was strange because it wasn't immediately clear when he ascended onto the platform, and then when he was there the way that the the seating, quote unquote was arranged unless she were sort of on one of those other hills that were not wear the kind of main crowd was you didn't really have an angle onto who's doing what on the plateau. I mean, you could say like those are dancers, and like that's the choir. And like I understand that in the center of that are like a bunch of instruments and people on those instruments. But if you said identify the person's playing keys right now, I I'm not sure I could've immediately spotted that. And given that Konya was kind of like sort of in charge. But also kind of just sort of vibe ING their a- moments. I don't know what he's what he's doing. And so it became pretty clear by about like nine forty five in the morning or nine fifty in the morning rows like, oh, this is not a new concert not at not at all a little bit. No. And I would in fact. If I were someone who woke up at seven o'clock in the morning. Five forty five. I want to whoever is in the hotel room next to me, I feel bad for because my alarms going off. Even the stream kind of felt weirdly voyeuristic because like there were times where you would just kind of looking at anything or you're looking at someone or something that was not not something even now, I don't know the point. So as spectacle, if fell short for you, what about as music music is always gonna be great and right like wing. It's a little logging. It's all right. But the combination of what was really truly incredible music and Connie was what it was kinda grows. Like, it just felt opportunistic. Like, you're you're talking about this music of the church, which is like, historically where black people go for refuge from and have been attacked by white supremacy, the church, and then you align yourself with essentially whites Missy, and then you bring the church to Coachella, which has interesting politics, and I entirely convinced that the Coachella audience was understanding how great this music should be fair had the same exact feeling at the onset last year fair. You don't I'm saying like, I very vividly remember being in that audience and looking around and being like, some people here understand what's happening and many people. You're do not. Not even slightly understand. What's happening might what my sense to sidebar a little bit about the the kind of like relationship, Coachella, two black music. My sense. Is that cognac decided obviously post beyond say, but was basically like, oh, I understand what beyond brought to jail, and I want to do like a sort of parallel. In a long history wanting to be like beyond. Oh might he has admitted that he looks up chore. That's that's a whole different. Good lord. But that's how it felt it felt like, okay. What sort of what beyond say did with a certain strain of history will do powerful Cognis? Yeah. Sure. Maybe if beyond Saint put on a gospel concert is better. I don't know. It's it's interesting. It's uncomfortable pudding gospel in that space. You're like I would like to see Kirk Franklin language l like, then it's different. But anyone else who's coming from a secular position? And then is like diving headlong in the gospel. Even if they are in fact Christian, and that's background. It's it's going to be a little weird. Do you believe fundamentally Connie as relationship to Christianity? And and to gospel as sort of a vehicle of spirituality. He is sincere or does it feel broadly speaking craven, we know it sincere because it's always been there. Yeah. The display of it has become lessons year over time. I think I think Jesus walks was real that was real I think Sunday service, not real. I don't I don't know. I think it may be is not real in the sense that everything in Konya land is slightly less real than it was ten to fifteen years ago. There is this kind of pinball with where it's like, I'm talking to Trump back on my Christian, like, I'm just, you know, and maybe they're all the same damn in someone who recently came to see himself as a God, which kind of doesn't square, right? If you're sure -sarily being what unquote Christian religious ritual Ranbir, like if felt like we were worshipping at the altar of Konya. And it's funny because to me I was expecting it to be far more ego driven the thing that ended up being so surprising over the course of those ninety minutes, or whatever was I kept being like there's other. There's no, yeah. Here is obviously it's embedded in the DNA of the enterprise, and the kind of audacity of Mikhael these poor kids. But very early trust me it was very early. But that dollars for socks Leslie for it. Well, you know, someone who's bought some expensive socks day. I'd site. I can't get to benefit about that. I. I digress. But over and over like when I was typing, my notes, I kept basically be like wears. Yeah. No. Yeah. Lack of yet. And interestingly like, no one else was introduced I mean, obviously, you noticed people DM shows up, you know, that I mean, I think the idea was for it to not be ego driven. But it was still somehow very ego driven again. It's it's so I maybe felt less that way 'cause I've just watched ABC ego driven for so many different in so many different formats, so many different places over thing about this though. Right. So you you've been first of all you plant the seeds for Yandi, then you start with this Yanni's about detox. Kim Kardashian sponsored Sunday service with springs where we just only seeing these clips on Twitter, and then you get to Coachella where you're supposed to headline you drop out of it because they won't build you a dome, and then you renewed to have Sundays like you certainly didn't do this to bring the good people the gospel. No, although that is never been his primary relationship to a lot of the music that we're gonna talk about later in this episode. That is its primary wreck, and it's never really been Connie's primary. Although I don't know when like say when Oprah light beam came out, you know, when I did have that moment while I was like, oh, this if this turns like a profitable. I don't mean financially. But I mean, like us culturally or spiritually that might be an intriguing direction for him. But I don't think the greatness of Oltra light being is news. I think it's. Kirks Kirk Franklin and and fines worth bend legal. Don't Kelly tries like there were a lot of people involved in that record that made it the sanctified thing that was and I don't think like Connie certainly curated he got in the room together. But I don't know how much of it was Connie as visit. Let's listen to the most exuberant ecstatic thrilling harmony parts of ultralight being which may or may not include. My favorite. Ultimate me. This is a guy Jane this djing this every. Looking for. So. In holy. Father this press. Everyone feels that not good enough. This press everybody that to messed up. Everyone that feels that said I'm sorry too many times you can never go to what you can't come back home. Again. That's one need. Just as a sidebar about. Yeah. One of the things I think we're seeing more and more in kind of like this is like mid period. I don't know where late, you know. I don't know if it made her late it's tough to say. That whatever look to your is that that's yes. That's that's just about. But. In general, his move to either enter himself or alternate -ly corral the team, and I think this starts with the fantasy sessions. And kind of like, I'm the creative director. I'm the director of Connie west. And that means that I maybe don't make the beats in the same way anymore, and I maybe don't write the rhymes in the same way anymore, but the business bigger than any one of those things for what it's worth. I think I believe I believe Sunday service two years ago like pre Maga hat like all of that. I would I might would believe it more. If post right after like, you went from the garden to Sunday service. I'm for that. Like, okay, it's kind of fires especially since he was all my gospel album. Anyway, it made it would make sense. But today it just felt like you were weirdly trying to endear yourself to people you had lost. By using something that's sacred to them. It is. So you think it is one hundred percent that craven nothing is that black and white, right? Like, I don't believe I just sat there masterminded some marketing frame, and he was like, you know, what black people really love them some gospel. I don't I don't think he was thinking that way. No. This is the person who on. Yeah. Has a whole song wouldn't leave. That's basically like like people are going to end in me. Right. But I do think he's not oblivious to the fact of this could be good for me. Generally speaking, my feeling is six months from now or year from now he'll be on something else. Like, it doesn't feel like a committed like like this is the direction it feels like like many things in kind of say post twenty ten. In interesting side, a lot of parents, the fact that I guess it's always been there in different interational like from Jesus walks like even uses and I am God like that entire situation. Like, and then we get to I'm making a gospel album. So certainly, it makes sense that we have arrived at this point. It's just everything that happened in the interim makes it achey. Do you feel like when you did those earlier records are those blaspheming records like are are they perceived as such I know several Christian listeners who were extremely offended and felt him calling himself. A God was last miss me. Personally. I'll give him the artistic space to play around with that. And also Connie eight to a lot of people is a Demi God. And he knows that. And everyone else knows that. And we gave him that power. We made him believe this to be true about himself in. So I don't think it's Watson. It's like, oh, we should stone Conyers, right, but it's uncomfortable. Just because of we is and how he acts if Connie was deliberately orienting himself by his proximity to save people. If that was his primary orientation, he maybe wouldn't do this. But I don't think that that's his primary orientation speaking about Connie kind of oriented himself, or whose randoms towards or in in relationship with an interesting thing that's kinda came up prior frankly to the Chelsea reserves in earlier Sunday service, but which he he reprieved echo Gela worthies kind of version ings of well known gospel songs primarily. From the nineties and two thousands. So there's this version of where he's kind of teeing snippets of Fred Hammond. Records called this is the day. Listen to the to the Hammond original, and then a little bit of the Konya, both foreclosed jersey cluttering mix or whatever. With different here. Depression confusion. Sickness but to stay. We ain't the door. So here, here's kind. Yeah. Basically doing it's almost like two thousand sky needs. Like, I'm just gonna chop up the sample. It just so happens at the sample knowing you know, it's he's treating it in that way. And I was wondering when you were watching this or watching any the earlier videos to that like set off any triggers for you either positive or negative. I mean, I really enjoyed that the gospel arrangements like the arrangement of how excellent was phenomenal. The choir was amazing. The musicians were amazing the gospel fan in me appreciated the musicality and the reimagining of these classics into essentially a festival ready way. Like, I thought I thought it was incredible. I wonder if in decontextualizing some of these samples some of these older songs does it remove kind of the spiritual core of the record. Like if you're not gonna play the freedom. All. The way through if you're religious gonna take to bars or four bars and loop it up. What are you losing? What are you gaining? I think the whole reason anyone would chop it up right or incorporated in any way is because of the spiritual nature unless you just take such an obscure part of it. And that we can't even recognize identify. You're always going to like feel you know, spiritually inclined. And that's what's gonna make it compelling. And that's that's what makes it interesting. And hopefully, maybe someone went and looked up Fred Hammond after all this right or small wood or whoever and as far as what we lose. I don't think there is much to be lost because people who like the song or gonna like this long anyway and chance we're not canceling out the original for the Connie west version. I think though. We'll check back in five years. So. Churches. Nella are they I would wonder. Church in white a minute. If anybody has been in a church where they played all tra- light beam. Email us a podcast on what we wanna know. Bob, kesling times dot com, or frankly, or Jesus walks or any kind of music gold digger. Or even not even heard they play like. Alright Indra Lamar alright in church well Christian rapper. Sure. Sounds Reggie Reggie, right? Let's finish the piece back in the day. Incredible piece read it it's on Buffy us. So okay. I came home from Sunday service or to my hotel. I wrote for a few hours filed click on the TV. It was like, I gotta decompress. And what do I see right deller award? These. First of all stellar Orage is still one of the few award shows that are like broadcast on a on a major networks on BT this year for the first time in a long time. But that is not live or quasi can happen. You know, or whatever. So the stellar awards were on. And I was like, okay. This is to two stars are aligning to perfect sat down, and I watched the seller awards. I were up some dominos and stellar award. Order better. I well to be fair keen to California. I'm not sure I could have gotten better pizza on short notice. Although if you also know where there's great pizza looking to California, Email podcastone dot com for next year. Since stellar awards. One of the things I was struck by about the Steelers this year. And I feel like I've watched most of the last decade of the Steelers maybe missed one or two years the turnover of younger talents seems to be happening at a faster pace than it has. Now, the gospel charts do not move fast, you can leave the gospel charts now and six months from now six months ago, and I would venture to say three quarters overlap. Two-thirds overlap. Yeah. It's it's a country music away. Look it up today to prepare for this. I was actually relatively surprised on there that you're happy to see what it wasn't even what was on there. What was what was gone when I wrote believe his last August about secular artists being on the gospel charges. All of them are gone. Charlie. Wilson has gone just gone snoop Dogg songs charts. All in the song starts. Yes. I was like, oh, the phenomenon has ended will. Yes. That felt like. A little that was like an outbreak squeak outbreak. But also the number one I'm looking at the billboard Ospel albums chart number one album the essential Kirk Franklin's, just occur. Franken compilation how many weeks on the chart one hundred and sixty eight. So this stuff doesn't really move. You know, you look at jar. There's like a Marvin Sapp best of a bunch of Aretha the tasha cobbs EP for three years ago. And she passed that's true story. It's a lot of stuff that's been on. I mean, there's a tears Attamleh man album that's been on the charts for two hundred sixty seven weeks. So not not a crazy amount of turnover in the gospel charts on the centrists gospel does admittedly move slow even from a production standpoint. It'd be kind of even more weird if they are putting out at a rapid pace. Right. Right. Absolutely. So there were few performers and nominees at the sellers this year who clearly were the center of attention. Let's listen to make room by Jonathan macaroni. You can. That's. You can. Jonathan wanna gang a stellar 's the gang stellar 's. And I thought he had a a lovely speech about Megan room more room for for the Lord in his life and on his shelf at ripe. But more importantly, right? Lotta that feel like we have enough room in ear probably there's probably never room in here. So we were taking girls fights heart. So let's explain who John mcreynolds is kind of like what he's sound is. Because there was something when he came out was like five years ago or four years ago, I'm trying I kind of like start bombing. There was something kind of like purposely quiet and intimate small scale about him. Any did not feel consistent at the time with kind of the center workouts? What was so I for one was surprised to see 'em basically be the bell of the ball. Now, what is your take on make room? And that's the name of the song and the album, I believe as a piece of work and kind kinda how does it fit in big picture with contemporary gospel? Something happened with Travis green and guitars. And so I think in laying kind of I don't want to call it a foundation because you know, nothing is super new if you go far back enough, you'll get. There was this moment where almost seemingly to get into the idea that gospel should co mingle with other Jonah's you saw a lot of hip hoppers coming in. You saw a lot of like weird like urban pop style gospel happening also came these guitars where it was just kind of like folks, he almost and very very very deliberately like non quiet like not yet driven like it's like the singer songwriter. Exactly. Right. He's having this moment because it's a good way to sing us. Well, right. Like, it's there's something to the choir for sure, but there's also something to kind of almost just getting rid of everything else and just being present. And I think you you'll -ccomplish that I also I also think it is a possibly there is a shadow influence of CCM because if you. Listen, like when I travel I get in the car. I turn the radio to local cesium station. I local Chris rock station because to me, it's easy, I'm contemporary from USA. If you don't know, obviously, maybe there's a station in New York. I don't know. But like, why would I just wouldn't listen to it in New York? But like if I'm in like, Oklahoma or something, you know, or taxes or whatever like I want to listen to something. I don't narrowly listen to. So it's like I'm listening like career does. And CCM and that aesthetic in contemporary Christian music is actually the standard is especially following. There was like kind of early to maybe even too late two thousands of I kind of quasi hard rock like you're sort of like immersing. It gets also aligns with megachurches like non relational 'cause you're starting to see like 'specially like in places like Charlotte where drank David where it's just kind of. It's not Baptist. It's not particularly black. But it's also not particularly why like it's just this mixed congregation. And it's like that style of music just kind of slots in right? It's like a com- like a weird common ground. Yes. Although it's really not because to me, especially when I hear it completely decontextualize from black gospel. Basically, you realize just how kind of like attitude listens wireless, and you know. Yeah, we not the spirit. Not the belief in God is not swagger. Just wanna be clear. I don't wanna getting emails about that. Yes. But the music itself, it's like aspirated kind of in a way. But I do think because that has been such a dominant, you know, Chris Tomlin type stuff for ten to fifteen years. When the Kirk Franklin of Christian, Joe, I in my first year, the paper, one of one of the concerts. I reviewed in the first few months was like a big Chris Tomlin Joe, and I was like blown away at the scale of it. And I was like where where's? All the slaps and also Israel real also. Yes, good exam nominal guitar kind of Christian, but also gospel because you know, we have to make even the charts make those differences. Yeah. I think the Travis green into the Jonathan mcreynolds thing. I wonder if it's like some of that weird soft energy trickling into gospel. 'cause usually I sort of the trickle being the other way that some of the energies going, but it's basically like how can we just squeeze it down till I gets barest essence would it be weird. If not cynical because I'm not trying to be cynical to say that like is it good for crossover? Like, do you have to what though to like to Chris? News news, possibly or you know, just your twenty thousand congregation megachurches like here's here's a fair question. I don't know the answer and actually maybe someone who's listening. There's the answer. I'd love to know next person. We'll talk about was like Kaelin Kaelin car. I wonder speaking of crossover if Jonathan Reynolds is more likely yet played in white Christian congregations in those or his songs in by worship leaders in those communities than Ceylan or. I know the answer's yes. I just want someone to on the Christian charts though. That's what oh but see so in the billboard index page for John in the McGauran olds. It does not say that he's been on any Christian charts interest. He has been on the adult are in beach arts, though. Hey, get your Ken money. That's right crossover. Crossover. I wasn't expecting. But says he's been on hawks songs. Top gospel albums gospel airplay digital song sales and streaming songs. But no question, and let's it's interesting. How are made because? That's the one. Of course. I it just seems racial like just on. No. It doesn't see it is racial doesn't merely. Sing Lino Vilvorde recently told us they're not making decisions based on race. So I've already I've already called those people out on a prior podcasts. It would seem churlish to just go back and do it again. But yeah, this is very clearly what this is unless you're Tori, Kelly. Oh, oh, she on both. I think she's on. I think for sure on gospel. She also got did you see she got nominated for a stellar? Yes. Scooter Braun, so powerful, it's nuts. He's an in the gospel thousand world. They're scared scooter, well, they think one day seven years now Justin Bieber might show up for like a videotaped segment at the sellers in like, you know, twenty twenty twenty four doing we don't need it. I'm not I'm not I'm not advocating, I'm just saying voice. The nice though. I agree. But like should she have won the Grammy for best gospel album this year over je Jalen Jonathan group to Kaelin would sing circles around that's say, Tori, L even walls group. All right. Let's talk about Kayla. How the hell formats? Oop. I shouldn't say hell of it. Oh my God. You came home to kaitlin had a hack of performance at the Steelers. Let's listen to stay with me. Okay. This Kaelin car say with. John. So she really went in kick the shoes off wholesale shoes off dogs are barking, Patty tease or fanny Fantasia shadow. True. True. True a future seller award winner, low certainly sometime the next ten years. I'm reading that been reputation, please. It's kind of weird that it hadn't gone that direction already. I feel like once you go over right? And there's no. Yeah. That's true. Okay. Explain kaitlin singing besides back that she. Oh, she's she's so she has that old school like I'm lean choir Basang on B, two minutes long KYW's. We just we just going in going her voice. It's very it's very raw. Like, it's a raw voice in like even like on her records. You can sometimes hear like little scratch, which is not always. Ghazwan music is about GIS expressing how Alec comes out. And she's just so young. And I I love that about her. Remember her early records? I didn't even know how young she was that. I believe they said she's like what twenty three years something. So I remember her records, and she was like nineteen twenty and she just nominal. It. Again, is what we were saying before their ease. I remember watching the sellers five years ago and feeling like you're kind of getting rough. It's like, you're just like reshuffling the Mahjong tiles. It's like I've seen these tiles before they're just maybe in a different order. I think what you kaylin. You don't see it when they're so young. It's especially in twenty nineteen. Sure. Well, although Koornhof are pretty young she performed in a more traditional sense. I really I'm glad she didn't do wanna do it. And did something more 'cause I'm one I'm just a sucker for like the slow like crazing worship kind of song. So I. Think for corden that moment was also like a I can do this as well. Recording comes with a particular set of baggage which is corn did not come in through the church. I mean, not that she didn't coverage, but she came in through the voice, right, which is on the because I stopped watching the boys f like the third season's. I actually did not know that she was on the voice until I was going around to study up. So she was a finalist on the voice. I dunno TK years ago. She was not as good as she is now. No when she was on the boys. Good, but she was not as good as she is now. And then it's weird when you look at even the album art of her something like she got the full make like they really they went all they went all in. And she is not the first gospel star to come out of a reality setting men diva obviously reality setting, but the speed with which they kind of like put it into overdrive with her is impressive. And she is a very good singer. But like you say her biggest hits. Are not. The what is the ballot of gospel? The are the ballot slash aria of. Let's listen to. I mean won't he do it is the one listen to a little bit. But I also wanna listen to unstoppable Cray record when we'll get the league. Right. So it's do a little bit of won't do it. And then this is unstoppable. Take me. But I. Thought of. Sleep in. Something different. His. Told you couldn't do. But I got this. Just watch me is putting on sweat. Can break. Take two. Painting. That. I felt like when you when Coren showed up to the Steelers, Mike, you said it was very much like no, I do this. I know I haven't always seen me do this. And I know kind of like slit in the back door a little bit like I do this. But it didn't come off as kind of Africa's wanted UK was doing which on does. 'cause I that's I think also to to your point there. Wait in was so different, right? Like, I remember two three years ago. Like je Kaelin essentially, the live videos, you see of her we're in these like, smallish churches, and she's just like going in. Whereas n. She was independent me. Whereas Coren did get a label behind her pretty much immediately, and they really kind of hack it. It says she didn't have to do the church circuit, which is a very kind of important offer. Like when you hear a live gospel album. It's more than likely performed in somebody's church, and it's it's the real deal and also from deuce pain perspective. I mean, it's doing clubs for rappers. Or you know, that it's the same thing a couple years ago. I did a story where I was following around Columbia. Gavin breed avenue. Oh, we were in Alabama. And they're basically just taking the road show. You know, just like we're here this weekend. We're going to be there next week. I'm going to be and it's just that was there do Spang, and it was all speaking of early morning concerts. But again that was they're paying. I am not seen that in the gospel world. I mean I'd seen versions of it and others honors by never seen. What a looked like Ingles. Kayla was just in Brooklyn this past for Easter, actually, she was in Brooklyn freezer, Sunday, you'll see tasha cobbs still very tasha cobbs lynyrd still very much in the church. I haven't looked up to see like Koren is doing that now. But certainly there's not this abundance of videos of her just in that element. What's interesting to me about some of these? I think for me, breezy really did fall into that is, you know, Brees breakout was off an Instagram video or a YouTube video of whatever, you know. It was not as you say church video same thing with Quanta is a Twitter YouTube thing, and I wonder do you think that the industry will ever kind of reorient itself? More Gresley disappoint people who didn't come in through the traditional pathways. Ideally, not it could get a little weird. If you started seeing, you know, record representatives in the sanctuary scouting for the that's. A little weird slow little off. But I'm just kind of curious about the business of gospel. In terms of like, how things get booked like does your do you have like a booking agent who liked calls up new Bethel Baptist church? And it was like so do you wanna have Tamla come in by? I don't know how any of that works to assume that there have got us in there people who specialize in that. I mean, you know, it's like in the same way like with like rock bands or or rappers where they're like, you know, like certain rooms in New York that like in indie rock band. That's from the midwest that has like a certain number of fans like most likely to play, you know, you're most likely to play the mercury lounge or whatever like, I'm sure there's a Booker at the mercury lounge who knows the tour manager of the weather band and goes. Church will there's a lot of business church. This. Let's keep that in mind. There are no shortage of churches. But I do think that there's gotta be some kind of infrastructure for that. There has to be you don't think I guess just weird to think about okay. So the main winners this year mcreynolds Hawthorne, car talk briefly about the walls group. No, you're out. Okay. I'll talk about the walls group for performers. Let's listen to my life. Be that may get sick. And. That. Thing. In. Offense. But just needs to say. Pitches. Doe. So one of the reasons I like the walls group is they are very enthusiastic and high energy. I dunno. It's especially if the mic Reynolds wing is kind of like taking the center of chart landing award winning gospel, there still something kind of loose about the walls group that that if I really appealing, and we talked briefly about quantum gabum before what did you think of his performance count it? He socially natural. Lace? I found him on you to real dog. You've seen the original YouTube video of him. He singing I won't complain. It's it's one of the ones like, you know, the in that the songs like don't touch it unless, you know, store facts. Yes, you got it. He saying that in his high school lunch room and the lunch lady filmed it and put it on board where whatever it wasn't to my space. He killed it. Been real good to me. He. Did this? When I was watching the streaky. I was like in other windows, like doing whatever. And then like you you're that. So you click in the window like, wait, wait a minute. Maranda? Yes. Some random Curtis where they perform you kind of like, I couldn't tell was it like a new artist type of thing or it was some kind of so random Curtis who I I was not up on before this year stellar awards, and I feel shamed. For that. 'cause wow can Moran. The Curtis saying, let's listen to nobody like you Lord by Miranda Curtis. So interesting hearing her just after Collado because there's there's something very loose and fluid trying to be sexy at all. But it's like there's a real physicality and the way that he uses his body in performance. And this is something that I mean this dude was when I saw in in Alabama too. He was like literally speaking in tongue like just going running all over, and he was very. Yeah. Physically in it. It's it's almost like a Kirk Franklin. If Kirk Franklin were also, extremely strong vocal is very you. Bring this energy. Thank you. Okay. Well, that's been said, no, you're not wrong. Just it's no one talks about it. But that's okay. That's not being. I mean, he's fine. But I feel we all septum of a producer arranger phenomenal over spirit guy. Yeah. Can we talk briefly about Kirk Franklin outfits on the sellers? Wow. Crews Kirk Franklin stylist. Listen, I would like to I want to know who did the million video stylings I was at that concert. That little tune it. Anyway, if you are Kirk Franklin stylist, please Email me about gas like to speak with you. Vaga maranda Curtis. So after the kind of intense sinewy physicality of Quanta marangos goes up and just play gospel, juice hypes. I mean, it was very gown. Yes. That was an hers was the voice that I had the stronger you had that reaction quantity. I had that reaction to Mirant. Like, it was I was very very struck by how impressive a singer. She was in relatively new to the Jonah. But again. Wicky is that your? Someone get on that. Maybe if you her PR person, maybe this would be a great moment for Georgia. Get a wicker PDF age. We are checking maranda Kurt. That's true. That's true. Very true. Okay. I'm at the part of the show that I'm like most anxious about gospel rap. Yeah. Okay. Okay. We talked about the Cray before the crab Almazy tone recently, make the trap say a man, that's true. So this album to men of God Dato Vigne McRae. And for those don't knows HOV in church organist, Greg organs for Gucci mane practice. Don't ever let them tell you Gucci made is not close to God that's ever. Let them. She saw him on NPR's tiny deaths. That's true. That's actually just good point. I forgotten about. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Keep back, right? Cool. Right. Real power. To get back, right? Top-down hair bag, rob. Fairfax wanna hit track ties? Ties one amid traffic doing this since pip break. Say been crowds on a big stage. Been may hit some big knack. Yada. Yada, yada. Got bought aside from baby mama, take the bottom. Once it mama bottles on bottles bottles and models on models on models Donoso dollars. Yeah. That'll help me fill in the painting Venema drummer. Too. Big. To fall back this work. Don't work in the summer. Propaganda while you. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. So this album crazy mega records for a long time. And this album is like he went forth into he did. But it's funny because I'm thinking we were talking a little bit about crossing over before. This does not feel like a crossover to me. This feels like I almost want to say a logical endpoint or like when you're driving and you get to the end of the cul de sac, and you're like, I can't go any further. So I'm just gonna go back again. But this is the end of the cut like this feels like okay, I can do this record with Zeh Dovan. It's still like thematically what I do as you were saying, the flows are very specific and contemporary. But I don't know that hill ever push beyond this to something more. Formerly secular. I don't know. What do you think look crate has an extremely strong, Brandon gospel music at this point. He's he's a centrally the gospel rapper like if you don't know any other one, you know, Cray if you play this album. And we didn't tell you it was liberated. I don't know that you would readily recognize really just just just lyrical choices. I mean, you would notice the lack of profanity black of certain things. But I don't like it's not oh, come get saved. It's not really what it's about. Sure. But I think for LaCroix he would have to become so frustrated where he is that he decides to go another direction with it. And even then though because I think there's also, you know, the inherent knowledge that you're not gonna succeed in contemporary hip hop. If you're not or feign if you're not. Generally, terrible as a human being human. Sorry, just clarifying unless your chance I just wanna say Brown had promised not to speak. If chance the rapper's name on this episode, not at my product. Now, he just seems so obvious. You're every talking about gospel and secular music. I just think lacrosse 'cause you saw Molly music kind of make that transition. He kinda. Wow. West this like the strictly gospel thing, and then he he signed a straight secular late. What did he do to a straight secular label, but he's not making? It's still not, you know, going to be on your radio next to the Chris Brown or whatever like bombings because dove how fast he's incredible. But it's it's it's positive music. Like, it's it's like the in-between of gospel. In secular is just like being weirdly wholesome. Like, you're not specifically talking about God, you're not specifically talking about anything like profane or sexual or whatever you're just chance rubber and just as a sidebar, though, speaking of he who shall Chaim chance. Curses. Does he does he not? I guess he does I was gonna say his vocal tone is so optimistic. I sometimes forget it. It's just feels like it's like, it's camouflaged positively I think chance works though, because he realizes the very human nature of you can go to church on Sunday. And then also someone might piss you off on Monday eight you might have to just yes, get it off. But speak with that in mind. Okay. So something to kind of tie it back to the to the you conversation at the beginning when I was watching the Steelers, and like me having in mind knowing Nicki Menaj was on tasha cobbs record. And you mentioned there's like a TI recor. That's that was on the gospel or a TI feature that was on a gospel song on his long. Charlie wilson. It was dry. I was trying to think about Goss bowl as kind of like a a space that protects itself. And I was like would they ever invite tasha in Nikki to perform at the stellar 's in that I was thinking about chance and Kendrick could they have a home at a place like the sellers? And then obviously I'm thinking about yet. And I'm like, oh, what is it? Now. My answer my suspicion is that none of those things would ever happen. But do you think there's a chance? I mean, I think those conversations are very actively still happening because when Franklin collab- with Connie chance like there was the whole Instagram post of defending his position, and there was support. And then there was no. And then the same tasha cobbs Munajjed there. There was the whole having the publicly defender position in verse support, and then they would know in. So I think. Gospels currently trying to reconcile it within themselves because the teachings suggest that chance Kendrick Konya whoever should be welcomed at the seller awards. If the messaging is on point that they should be able to find quote, unquote, redemption that you can be imperfect instill step into a sacred space. So I think they're too for what it's worth people who are on the stage at stellar who have things that we shall not speak of. I think gospel is still trying to find a way to to reconcile that within itself. And also what I would not like to see is a situation where? I don't know if Nike Manashe made a gospel album. Right. And then you bring Nikki onto the seller awards at fueled someone just I just felt like I start sweating profusely just thinking as a guest of tasha cobbs, Nicki Menaj out. Perfect wonderful Kirk Franklin brought chance the rapper and Connie out Cooper wonderful. Do I believe we should give Connie was a space on the stellar awards? That could go to someone else. People were their entire lives for that stayed right to just ally. I called up Kirk Franklin and now here, so you're basically saying it would be like, Tori, Kelly winning the gospel Grammy, though, she's at least committed to being gospel. This week this week. No shots jot. But no shots did nothing to deserve. I realized I didn't realize the, Tori. Kelly defense squad was going to be on pop. No, one told me I was IOT -ticipant. And that's what I like her cry. She has a lovely woods is pleased on strike me down again down to Kaelin. Okay. I do think there is a discussion to be had for as much. We've been talking about Tori, Kelly about her space in gospel music. Is it an imminent situation as we're about to do? And also to your point earlier about sort of not seeing corn off or not seeing videos of her doing the church circuit are there videos of, Tori. Kelly do in the church circuit. I highly highly doubt it, and so just, you know, same rules just one side. Okay. Before we go. There's been something. That's interesting happening injured gospels conversation with musicians who do not make what we think of traditional gospel music. And this is something that's come up a lot in the last. I'd say two years you heard it in servant with feet. You heard it in blood orange any cya, Ana Taylor. Yes. Deanna pretty good. It's on these. Fishes ford. It's worth dead. But it was weird watching people act like she made ever would have made it. That's yes. Fair point fair point. We will we will not do that Marvin said, oh, no. We're no racing. You'll be no racing Marvin Sapp talk to people through who Serpa with feet is. And where this sound idea comes from. So serpent Lafitte is a singer artists from Baltimore who was raised in the church and ease a clear artist. Any incorporates all of those things in into his music, and it becomes this. This very church flamboyant like pool pit hind of thing. Even when he performed live, and you can hear it on the records in the music. It's it's it Australia like Trotta, it's Ambien. It's every richly textured. But it is an it's got spun form San choir of like come out of the air. Right. And there's a lot of choral arrangements on the album, and he he kind of very much plays with because he he sings of of loving men in so he'll use sort of sacred lingo to sing of loving men much. Like, he is someone who really puts it in front of you just how then that line is between like singing of secular loan and seeing like sacred love, and he's he's just the best. Pointing out in your review of his album, the the him in his work. That's the you know, it's much more ambiguous than in the work of some other performers who are in a more traditional idiom. His hung to flow. He was invited me to. Buddy brew. Were you living in New York yet when he did the first show that was in the church in Williamsburg God. I wish you weren't here yet. It was really really impressive. I'm so sorry. I'll show you photos. I have been videos. I think it was very very impressive. And again, I think sometimes and this gets back to the conversation as well use of gospel as source material and kind of like how does that complicate? It's like the kind of purity of the of the or the sanctity in the message I felt having been to any number of formative and then go into several feature. I was like, oh, this is extremely sanctified stuff. Like this fish, very sanctified stuff. And I think there's also a symbolic function and several feet being a queer person working in like gospel textures church hasn't always been super welcoming to the LGBTQ community. And so I think there's also, you know, he's he's making a message what that is well because on the album prior to soil he was a little more abstract about like saying him singing. About loving men. Whereas this one he really was like him. Yes, not new not them him. And so I think I don't know just feels like a dialogue within itself, right? Absolutely. For a second to something of a blood orange rigor from last year. Let's holy will with the guy. Just the. Him. The. Long. Just. Another example of kind of interrogation of via appreciation one of my favorite song on this blood, orange record. Very much. So what's your vibe on Ian sole stuff? So good. It's so good and it's similar to separate in. I find it less successful. Personally, the intent IV like totally body on his voices canonical and what Ian does on that blood orange record. And what he doesn't general you can't mail it in like, you can't if not the kind of voice, it's not the kind of singing, you get having not spent time in church like it's very specific. And unique. I think when a lot of sounds we hear like on records like secular records are kind of synthetic when someone really comes in. And they're and they're they're doing it. And they got it from the they got the soul from the church. There's nothing like it. You know, e n is an affiliate of the ghetto gothic crew. And Hello, Venus that that music, and that energy is also welcome in those. Spaces. It's the game. And take is is fascinating and really productive. I think I'm actually really glad to see him get some shine via the blood orange thing and some other other recent projects. So before we go for real squad with some real saving. Let's both give us on of buying artist game really talked about or from ten or twenty years ago, something these people need to year to be carried out into the rest of their day. I'm gonna go with Donny mcclarkin, great as your mercy. I felt like I just heard it a lot in my when I was growing up. My mother was a big is she is a big fan of dotting. When my favorites of his school some. Towards me. Is your? Dopey say. Okay. And now before I close out with my choice. I do want to say that I used to work with a young woman, many many many years ago who was like a intern or an editorial system, and I was working and prior to that she had been a waitress, and she said that she had waited on clerk in and leave it to so. Just I was actually hoping we have an opportunity to tell that story. And like you just open the doors. Thank you before. Finally as we go out. I really liked commissioned. Commissioned is a was a sort of supergroup Fred Hannah was in a Marvin Sapp in it. I believe me Doreen have had a conversation about. Yeah. Dorian? Made it this far by. So outs. Allows today commissioned. First of all, I need some t shirts with commissioned album covers on them because the commission L mart from that. Fhu. I haven't been able to find any, but if anybody's got an extra large, please drop me an Email podcasts at times. Let let us go out on. A real real R&_B gospel number from commissioned quasi. I not really no not really Jack not release way. But let's just let's go out with some of that that ninety energy this is until much. This. That is our show. Thank you brianna younger for having me. Every podcast ever. NY times dot com slash podcast, Email there were a lot of Email requests. So go back. Listen to the show right down on the across in send me the answers podcastone dot com. And subscribe to the podcast anywhere. You get your audio content. Our producer in the room today. Pedroso headscarf for media. We'll be back next. Care.

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People tell you what you need to know, without brutality: Former UN torture expert

UN News

13:42 min | 1 year ago

People tell you what you need to know, without brutality: Former UN torture expert

"This is Matt Wells at U. N.. News not only does torture not work. It's counterproductive and when the practice elicits false confessions societies pay a very heavy heavy price. That's from professor. One Mendez who served as the UN special rapporteur on torture from two thousand fourteen to sixteen and experienced torture himself self while practicing law in his native Argentina. Defending political prisoners during the country's nineteen seventies military dictatorship. He spoke to you and use his netflix Hutchison in New York walk on the sidelines of the General Assembly. As part of a meeting outlining how member states are implementing a two thousand and sixteen UN initiative to eliminate the practice below torture has been prohibited for centuries it was only in the nineteen eighties that it was defined in the Convention Against Torture. And I it's defined as Pain and suffering deliberately inflicted by State agent with the purpose of Interrogation or cobbs obtaining confessions or or punishing or or any other purpose that involves discrimination so the definition initiative is Relatively clear and This convention against torture has been ratified by more than one hundred sixty countries. This is one of a A conventional that has most Adherence Wall States. So there's no question that this definition is universal and since that definition was established in the eighties. How has the elimination of the practice evolved? Are we seeing improvements Well no we liked behind. We have progress and we have setbacks all the time in the in the last couple of decades because of the war and terrorism and the war war on organized crime many states have met least relaxed their prohibition they never agree that they have the the the practice torture but they use euphemisms Like enhanced interrogation or And they claimed at. That's legitimate. Of course it's not and the fact the very fact that they have to use euphemisms means that they know that torture as illegal but I would say worse than that is a fact that also in the last couple of decades we're fighting against Popular Culture that conditions as to accept torture. Not that it's good but it's more a sense of its dirty but somebody has to do it It is possible to demonstrate. With scientific evidence unsigned experience. That not only torture doesn't work but it actually very counterproductive. It obtained confessions but confessionals could be truthful or falls also and when they elicit false confessions not only create a grave injustice to a person who could be convicted of a crime that he or she he didn't commit but it also corrupt San Undermines the whole criminal justice system including several institutions Dan You know lose lose the trust of the population and the trust of the population is what makes police work And and work well when when they lose the trust of the population maybe they're feared but they're not necessarily respected or trusted and I think in that sense Societies be a very very high price for engage union torch and what are some of the noncoercive methods of interviewing that you presented Senate today the General Assembly in your report we haven't presented yet Document because you're still working on it. There are many there are several states that have adopted did Sort of a methodology of questioning suspects but also witnesses and victims that is not based on confessional. That is based first and foremost almost to look for the truth. What really happened? And if the interrogator goes into the meeting thinking that he already knows does the truth than very likely his going to you know use violence to obtain a confession because that's a way of quote unquote solving the crime. But in the in the interrogator goes in with an open mind and willing to find out exactly what happened including confirming. Some things said he already knows but But perhaps no you know trying to find out things that he doesn't know then. The methodology is based on what is called Rapport. You know in creating a relationship between the interviewer and the suspect or victim or witness That had you know reduces tensions Reduces fear and Invites the the person to collaborate cooperate with the police. People do tell you what you need to know without brutality and as many different facets to it like being prepared before time Being able to let the person give I count and then ask questions later. You know especially As I said building a rapport and keeping the report going until the case is presented to the courts. And maybe if you could detail some of the questions that are asked for the way in the manner that the interviewers asking them the men are is obviously first and foremost respectful whoever's sitting against On the other side side of the desk is is human being As to be respected even if you think he committed a serious crime you still have to respect the dignity dignity inherent in being a human being. Second it's a question of Building Rapport and the first thing is not to interrupt not to Oh say no. You're lying to me. You're really guilty of this crime sentra but first leading the Subject give you the first account a free account that That is not extracted from him or her. But is an opportunity to make doc A voluntary statement and then and only after at the end of the statement questions may be era. Maybe given that our way of confronting with what the interviewer already knows from other evidence. Then yes. There's always a possibility. Oh saying the scientific diffic- evidence for example is different from what you're telling me But again in all cases with respect for human dignity of the person being being interviewed and you mentioned that. There's this idea that it's perhaps a necessary. Some people believe that it has to be done but in how many of these cases he says is it a matter of life and death. People who defend torture have been using what's called the ticking bomb scenario Forever I mean. I've heard it when when I was a law student so you you can imagine it comes back on all the time. There's no sense in denying that people will are very readily convinced. You know you know the person in front of you knows what Obama is about to explode and you have to take that information from that a person but first of all. That's not the way torture happens around the world every day on the country and besides quite frankly somebody who placed a bomb Is a hardened Arjun criminal hardened terrorists is not going to be. You know easily dissuaded from hiding that information just because you torture them. Could we get into who a little bit about your personal experience. Sure in your early career as a lawyer defending prisoners of war during Argentina's military dictatorship. Would you mind fine sharing what your experience was torture and how you overcame that I. I had a lot of experience because I defended political prisoners and many of my clients You know we're either tortured or I was trying to prevent them from being tortured in a lake filing a Habeas Corpus petition immediately after arrest on Donald so I was very familiar with the way interogations happened during the military dictatorship in Argentina. And then it happened to me a arrested me as they did arrest many lawyers in Argentina was one of one hundred twenty five or so who you were detained for a while or are disappeared appeared and to me. They did the same thing that they did with an any other suspect at the time because they considered as part of the terrorist organization. Even now all we did was defend People who they consider terrorists They treated as exactly the same. In my case they applied the electric part to to me. in very intense sessions so it was very very painful. It was at a time when they were still some safeguards And so they were. We're in a hurry to get us a much information from me as they could Before a judge could intervene for example and and my family were very well in that direction. The obtain Some ways of protecting me so in if anything. I was luckier than most because my torture was very very painful and intense but he lasted only a couple of days or three days. I think whereas the powerful of course at that. That time was Do they tortured you life for a week or so before Torture stopped for one reason. Or the other you know that I remain nevertheless nevertheless Imprisoned for a year and a half although judges cleared me of any possible charges because of the State of siege as a state of emergency or Stato dosage By which the military could hold you indefinitely without trial and without even taking you to a court and and in those moments did you ever give in. Did you submit well. Fortunately I don't have in my conscience the fact that I we gave any information about Friends or colleagues or or people. I knew so that they would be tortured as well. I manage to to to you know not to say anything that That lead anybody else to be tortured. But that's not to say that I didn't falter turn from time to time and especially when. They told me that they were going to do the same that they were doing to me to my little children who were then three and four years old You kind of break break down and you know Even after breaking down I was able not to lead them to ooh to information that was useful to them But yes I did. I did tell them that I was a lawyer representing political prisoners. They wanted to know how I learned that somebody had just been arrested and things like that on those details. I kind of managed just to say things that didn't lead them anywhere right Thank you for sharing that an opening up by the way. Finally what do do you believe the. UN's role is in eliminating this issue. The UN has between really great in creating Normative Framework for the prohibition on torture is now quite detailed and very Systematic and so it gives us many tools for example the optional protocol. Protocal to the Convention Against Torture Establishes a series of visits and organ- organizations both domestic and international that can help prevent torture before or it happens and in the same way we have very good very detailed norms about the treatment of prisoners that have been without since the nineteen fifties and from from time to time are updated We're working very well on mental kinds of torture like solitary confinement and things like that But we're still always in the need for more detailed Norms standards and in particularly in this case. That is what happens right after detention and while the police is trying to Find out what the person knows here. I I think we have an opportunity to universalize. The better practices are that exists around the world and is practices that are the law and the practice in some states but there are also universal in the sense that many Policeman no that that those would be the better way to do UC police work in their own countries. Even if the country has not yet adopted a model of that sort so my sense is if we can you know right light up a series of guidelines and put him into a document that we would call a protocol or something like that. This is the better way of finding out Crime and discovering it and and obtaining evidence to go to trial then I think they will be an has in premature obviously of the United Nations. Then I think It'll go a long way. In in mortifying practices and particularly changing the culture of law enforcement in many countries today practice torture.

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Joey Ryan

You Made It Weird with Pete Holmes

2:19:25 hr | 2 years ago

Joey Ryan

"You. We're with me hall what's happening. Where does so sorry for the delay. Obviously we have the new baby. I'm going to blame. I'm gonna blame the baby. It's like curb your enthusiasm episode. I'm going to blame having eleven day old baby. Who are we're just doing so great Val is not here. I had to run out this morning. I I didn't even realize I had something this morning at nine thirty and bell woke me up at nine fifteen, and it was like, don't you have something to do is you know, time doesn't exist in the most beautiful way time is not a thing anymore. All we are about is the baby and we live with the baby and we're on the baby's schedule. So like setting alarm and getting up to thing made no sense. And unfortunately, that included recording intro. But here we are according now when my car so we can get the episode. It's Joey Ryan from the from the from the milk carton kids, which is a wonderful duo and now full band. That I love. But Joe is also one of the funniest performers. I know he's he's certainly musicians that I've seen perform and he's on the third season of crashing because I loved him so much. I, I wrote a part for them and he's incredible, and we loved him any killed it. So if you don't know the ban we're gonna play a little bit of their music, and I want to introduce you to him and his wonderful brain and personality. In this wonderful podcast, I'm doing San Francisco, October twenty fifth weekend. I'll be cobbs. I believe tickets are still available. I mean, a lot of San Franciscan weirdos and surrounding area weirdos can make it to that show. I'll be running my new our which will be taping in Portland, November. Third, it's a Friday, Saturday, and Saturday sold out. But Friday, I think they're still some tickets available at the Aladdin theatre in Portland, Oregon. Also, if you listen to this day, came out Wednesday, this Friday. I'm going. To be at doing my show at Largo, my monthly show at Largo. It's always incredible this month we have demetri Martin and I, I can't remember the rest. I know Dmitri's on it and I know it's always incredible. And I have a bunch of new baby jokes and stuff, which is going to be a lot of fun to talk about with you guys, baby material. Unexpected Pergama having a baby. You have a lot of things to make jokes about. Yeah, I think that's it. Blah, blah, San Francisco, Portland Largo. You can always check Twitter for upcoming shows as well. And I do wanna give a shoutout to Pete's picks, which I've been swearing. I had to go to voice over this morning, so you definitely pop a few alphabrain on the way over l. fibrin is made by a company called on it. It's a new atro- pick. We know this by now it's actually because of brain, probably I'm able to remember this stuff because our brains earth grown ingredients. It's not a stimulant. It helps you with concentration memory, focus recalled helps you with language. 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Scott. There's. Matchy. Pan. From. Now. She called. See. When. Post. Two. She. I love these little. Piccadilly has to begin what you say when you're late. That's interesting to me also that you consider five minutes late late, which I don't. Go ahead. Yeah, he said. Sorry, lee. I didn't rabbi that was doing our weather late or whether it really. When was that is transferral. Things that you just like everybody was there waiting? Not like he was. He was there before like the guests and stuff, but like you know, all the family and everybody was like just standing there for a while. Waiting on those. Those said he got there and he said, I'm sorry, I'm late. I didn't leave with enough time to get here. Was he joking? No, he was just like it was his way of saying, I have no excuse. I just didn't leave enough time. I didn't leave enough time to get here. It's kind of taught a logical too hot illogical. Yeah. Like you're gonna say, Todd, a logical, I want you to again. No, I'm just impressed. What is time logical? Man. It's like it is what it is like something is true because it's true. I think that's what it means. Don't Google it. Katie self evidence. I don't know why don't want you to it. Yeah, self evident. We hold these truths Todd lottery, I'm late. I didn't get here in time. Yeah, but I like that on his way of saying he wasn't like trying to blame it on traffic or something. Right. It's like it's MS lives. My fault. It took me longer to get here than I thought. Yeah. Is a common Totta logical expression. I'm not fucking with you correctly. Second, I thought you were worried. I was worried. He thought I was messing with you. I didn't know that right when I walked in the door, it was gonna be. We were going to be podcasting. Well, how do you feel about. Feel good. If I was used therapist day, I find it significant. Do you, do you know? My, my dad is a psychologist. I grew up with the psychologist. Did he have like a study yet? But now he wasn't. He did do therapy, but that wasn't his main thing. What was his main thing was a thing that sounds cooler than what it actually is. But I'll tell say the title first and then I'll explain, but he's a forensic psychologist chance. Cool. Because of like. Yeah, exactly. Like I do wanna live in a moment where I don't know what friends psychology is. It does involve with crime friends that was like the things you leave behind forensics like fibers, but certainly is not doing the so the criminal would criminal side of things would be like one half of it, which he did not do the other side. It's like civil. The word we have the civil. No, it's like people suing people or organizations for psychological damages than they have to have, like, you know, get evaluated by professional and then they come in and testify as to what the damage is worth. So for it doesn't mean fibers left behind a crime scene. It just means to be used in the court of law or perhaps evidence evidential, yeah, psychology. Yeah, it doesn't have to be criminal. He wasn't like, what is this? A logical damage? You could undergo distress post traumatic stress. Depression as any sites happened at trader Joe's like somebody could suit Zakho's. And so part of what he would do trauma counseling for things like that. So he would see them and then he would offer his experience as evidence in a case, correct with the patient's consent. Yeah. That I tell patients the one trying to like wear received images. Yeah, or it's kind of a loaded situation. I'm sure that's what the defense would say. It's like, yeah, he went into who's will they care other expert. It's like any expert. Like anytime you call expert witness in a trial, each side has their own expert, and the one side expert is saying, this guy's messed up and the other guy saying, no, he's not, or they're read that. He's messed up there testifying that it's not the defendants fault. Right, right. That's interesting. I think almost I wonder if in a perfect situation, the patient shouldn't know which psychologist from who? Right, because you'd want to lead them. I mean, we do this just in regular therapy. You want right on a certain level, you want your therapist to like to like you do agree with you. So he's sort of like code for the first year or so. So what his job ends at being is like human light detector because there's the, you're dealing with people who are telling a story. About their own psychological state and damages with specific goal in mind, which is to win a financial judge. He's having to do something very tricky therapy, but like is this person? Yes. So those cases he wasn't doing therapy was just doing evaluate right then separately. The other part of the business would be doing therapy for. Yeah, for lane growing up with the. Yeah. Did he teach you techniques? Did you figure out how to beat them? No, no, I did not. I only figured out that he was doing it like, you know, at some point adolescence around in the rabbi was late. Yes. I mean, wait a minute. It was no traffic at all. So he was he's always seeing through you. Yeah. Were you the kind of kid that have a lot of lives? No. No. But and now that I have small kids of my own, the older one is almost five. I see. I can start to see in him what I realize now that I was doing the whole time that I was growing up, which was he's oblivious to the fact that we as adults every everything. Yeah. And are so much smarter. Yeah. I mean, yeah, he's five gallon. We'll close, but still like by the time you leave the house, you're eighteen your parents know if they're paying, you know, involved parents, whatever, and we're like, they know everything, right? You're not really sneaking anything by them as do you let your kid experiment in lies? And you know what I mean? Or do you bust them, or do you go like I kind of want to see where this is going like. He's covered in blueberries. Send like, did you eat the blueberries Arlene at this point? Like he can't going very long. Yeah, you know, 'cause we have. We're not really to the phase of lying yet. What is that time? I don't know. We don't know. I don't know. Like lying until I gain an advantage. He might live very quickly if he knows maybe he's done something wrong and he wants to just sort of immediately say it didn't happen, but right. He can't. He can't give very far yet, but later I assume, but I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe he can't. Maybe he won't ever really able to get farther than that. Because when I look back, we lived in a relatively small house and I thought I was hiding stuff from them and literally physical staff physical stuff or like, you know, toward the end of highschool, I'd skit in high all the time. Yeah, they knew everything and one day because you smell like it. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was cover much. Yeah. And one day I was seventeen or something end of high school. I can't remember exactly the occasion like why he chose this moment, but probably can't remember cause I was high, but he goes, you know, think came home because you know your mom and I know every time you come home. I and I was like, I think, I think, as I know, but I didn't know. So you just went into kitchen made dinner, whatever he was doing. He's he wasn't like getting me in trouble. I think he just needed to call me out in that moment like so you could do that what you. Yeah, like you're not. We're letting this all happen. You know, you think you're getting away with something, but it's just us letting very twelve monkeys. Like at the end, you realize the establishment was making everything happened. They let it happen. Yeah. So. Now I see that now I see that that's probably the way it's going to be with my and we're, it's who's pointing it out. Forget was someone was pointing it out recently with like Steven Spielberg movies. You rarely went when they're about kids. You rarely like the Dulce have no presence. You see the adults from the neck down a lot of the time. Like a kid's world doesn't include adults. They don't write understand that the adults are watching and paying attention. That's true as soom Charlie Brown. It's just like something over there. Right? And they seem so false. It's funny that they're watching us befalls, but I remember very distinctly being like grown-ups phony. You know what I mean? Like at a party that'd be like. So you still still the Barbara Shaw? Right? It'd be like well know and it's just like nobody gives a fuck about methylene so boring kid, you're just like, why don't you just scream enroll brought grownups. I remember my parents. I think even explaining that to me like this is we talk. Sometimes we have to, but it's kind of sad. Who's that kid don't can't do small talk. I would why they have so many awkward BAAs yes. Yeah, that's why they stare at you. And what they're doing to. Yeah, they don't still stare. Yeah, and they'll just not ignore if you say something to them or. Yeah, great them and watching them have like he just older one just started at the elementary school. And so now we're watching him have interactions with other kids and even some older kids at around because before that was just preschool. And like even the older kids are just like, hell, go up to maybe like high, and they'll just stare. And like, don't you want to like ask him how his day was? No. Yeah. I mean, doesn't say no. He did that question is even register, isn't it a little bit like being on mushrooms where you're just like, why would we talk about earlier. Have you ever. You're talking about earlier and why would we plan for later? We don't know how it's gonna go, right, could relate. I've wanted to swim and it rains. So I talk about that and you just like I really am convincing. Kids are kind of having a psychedelic experience the way they're fascinated with everything and the way they can be entertained. I, I was actually just recently thinking about this. I think it was yesterday. He's gonna check, jeez, and I had this very vivid memory. The second, your child is it. But last week. Just hang out Starks. Is that right? Actually, I don't know for fact that this is true, but it's like one of these that goes around society, but you can't go to Chucky cheese unless there's a kid with you. I think that's true. Yeah, I've ever been in the memory is going to check each is and remembering what it was like the last time I was there and I think it had been years, right? So let's say I'm bad with ages, but let's say it was five and then again at seven. So I'm seven and I'm gonna check cheese on remembering when I was five. And I remember the fun house. I remember very vividly being very transfixed. Right. It's fun. Yeah. And it was filled with like colorful balls and there was a maze and there were two, and there was a there was a thing that spun that you had to walk through. And then when you're leaving the maze there, these mirror. There's ease glass like inserts in the wall. And in there there were like pieces cheese because it's a mouse, don't forget Chucky cheese. Cheese is history cheese. He's a mouse. So he loves cheats really isn't. His last name isn't even. Reverend down when she loves, that's what you love. So they're kind of framed, you know, what is that called? Like a cupboard, but you can't open it and there's a piece of cheese. I remember being like leaving the house in even being so transfixed with the cheese thing that you see when you're leaving and I had this memory of like, didn't it move? Kind of moved a little bit looked. It looked real and me and my little friends, it's real cheese because you're always a kid, jeez, that's why they put the glass. Let's all it takes is one of the kids to say it's real, you know, all the kids are like you believe it and then you see, but not only do you believe it. You see, like suddenly you see it as relented Israel. So then you went back later and then it went back in the funhouse was the worst. By this point I had an older brother and he was sorta shitting on spoil. So he sort of getting my reality. I hated the fun house and then I was walking out and I saw the framed cheese, and it was just a piece of clearly fake smaller than. I remembered. Let's vivid than I remembered stupid fucking cheese and certainly wasn't moving did nothing for me and it was. It was like, I don't want to throw the word exit central around, but it was a crisis. I was like, oh, I'm growing up and I remembered what it was like when the world when everything twinkled and I was like, shit, I'm one step closer to my parents and talking like they do. I have the same exact experience with Disneyland. Is that right? Yeah. The remember the first time that I went there when I was too old for it and it just seemed like a parking lot in Anaheim. All of a sudden. Like going because I grew up in Los Angeles, we would go once a year. Yeah, not all we didn't have season passes or whatever, but like every year or some kid would have his birthday party at Disneyland for probably once and it was magical. It was real, like you said at twinkled. Yeah. Yeah, all the stuff. There was real and like just if I were describing it as if there were a place that did for me as an adult would what it did for me as a kid, I would say like the attention to detail in this was just mind bogg- and I say that that's how I feel when I go to Disneyland now a really different. I go look at the landscape, right? Like I'm always pointing devouring, which flowers are real. They're all real answer is they're all real. But like rocks like the rocks split splash mountain and everything and kids hurling into real, of course, not like it didn't occur to me until a certain point that it was all fake now have to go back and pay attention the flowers. But yes, for the most part end of respective of those rocks they make it look so far away. It's really close. But right, just Smalls you go and how small everything was everything. I mean, if you know the Matterhorn felt like it was probably like felt like what the Alps actually feel young adults, and now you go there and like, well, you're nine veto. You go and I feel the same way I'm dusting the top of it, but yet what's what is the point kids are kids are kids are on mushoo, right? I was going to say they're stupid, but it's just that they're on mushrooms gotten used to armed our brains building reality, and their brains are still sort of new at it. So me seeing the cheese moving is probably just 'cause my brain was still kinda new it going as a possibility. Now I have all these assumptions go. It's probably plastic. Like I said, my brother sort of planted in my brain. It's no good. Do you remember how powerful that was? If an older kid was like saying like that movie stupid? Yeah, that still happens if someone recommends a movie to me and I don't like the person I'll go not like the movie. Just prove that I'm right about what an idiot, what does that? But I won't try to not like the movie. I'll actually be like four ragnarok. Like messes it really ruins it for me. Yeah, I think that's why like that's why is so hard and white. You can be so rude is because now you start to see through. You know, like when you're a kid, the the small talk that adults make just doesn't register with you doesn't make any sense and run your analysts. You start to see what they're doing and realize how shitty it is held this. You like St.. On something. Yeah, they're all these power plays going like, Joey. Do you rent her own? You know what I mean? Like these are like weird Rimal, right? Where do we stand in the pecking order, things that are going on and their sex negotiation going on? That doesn't make sense until you what fifteen. Thirteen later for me. Is that right yet? None of that made sense to me. Toe little bit later than you relate blooms late bloomer. Yeah, really blooming. I wasn't willing to say I was a late bloomer and say, blue means at the same time. What does that mean? I lost my virginity when I was twenty one. That's pretty late. I didn't have. I didn't have a girlfriend until I was nineteen, which was the first person I slept with nineteen. That's pretty good. Yeah. But still on a rising, do you do you mean you remember everyone being horn doggie and and you didn't you dislike? What's that about? It still know what I mean is I wasn't aware of. I wasn't aware of when people were into me. One girls were into me and they were looking back. I think there might have been a couple of Cajun's that you're yeah, and I and I was oblivious. I mean, I like, you know, like like a child, not understanding the conversation. It was actually happening in the room. I remember girl sniffing me out because I was religious and I was very tall and she was very tall and looking back, I think I'm like, I think she wanted to date the optics of it, right? You're seventy tall. So you understand sometimes. Taller woman would just be like, just just for the prom photo. Right. Getting we blew day. I need somebody taller. I can't be with his only one boy. He's four nine. He's the only one that me up. Yeah, I wasn't even. I wasn't tall in high school though until the very end. Agree. Like four inches in the last year. Late movies. Yeah. So yes, I guess physically psychologically, but I guess a little bit physically too. But when did you didn't start playing? Why do I feel like you didn't start playing music until I didn't late her late. You did start playing later. Yeah, yeah, the my my my current life. Why do I feel like really there was a musician and a student lounge in your college and he was like holding ITAR and had to pick something up here. Hold this. No, it wasn't even that. It's not way west romance. No, it was a good guess. Yeah, no. I mean, I guess I did like mess around with the Atari in high school a little bit like my my parents had a guitar in the house. My mother had been in like the harmony duo in college at Berkeley, which is where I went to school and then into Berkeley college of music. Because it was not a musician at the right that checks out. I'm listening. Maybe you were like, I'm not into music, but I'm going to go to the most. Music school. Maybe I'll get into the paperwork mix up and. I think it's interesting how so many of us go to schools near where we live, obviously, it makes sense. But I suppose there's an argument to be made to live near good schools because there's a good chance. Right? Your kid's gonna want. I want wanna go to Carl near. I wanted to go to school in these coast, and I made a last minute decision kind of based on money to go to the public school in California rather than a private school in the east coast. Okay. Because it was. It was presented to me like the cost difference of the four years was presented. Your parents gave you. They were like, look, we know when you're high too. Yeah, it's gonna cost seventeen times more. Yeah, warding and all. Did you live at home? No, I grew up in l. a. and Berkeley's up in the bay area. Berkeley's up in Berkeley. No, it was just just tuition to private versus in state public school and it's, you know, it's the best public school in the country. It wasn't like, I didn't know that one. I went there at the last minute because kind of because of that and also visited for a weekend and had a good time. I believe this is a pot of ninety two hour. Brandon was gonna go somewhere else, but then ends up going to like the local Beverly Hills and the gang stays together. Right. That was that was for more season. That was a smart season. Yours to save money? Yeah, basic for your family. That's nice. I did the same thing for high school. Like I just noticed how much money to seem to be such a cause of stress. Right? That I was like a little like a little grownup, and I was like, I'm gonna use your tension and went to a public school also wanted to that worked out. So when I got there, I knew like probably like to songs on guitar, but I didn't really play the guitar. You remember. I satellite probably know because before that before Dave Matthews, Dave Matthews kind of happened like right when I went to college too, so well, yeah, I remember the first hung learned was house of the rising sun dad, Todd to me, which I always say is the magic song for songwriters because it's got like most of the first position cords in it. So once you learn it, you can kind of dry mining minor d. And we'll just see one up trying to address you want to. I honestly wasn't drying impress you. I was trying to make a joke about how doesn't deserve to own court because it's just the same. Well, it is like that it's it's the gateway cord in that time because technically you should play it as bar court in that position like shortcut to do it, you know where you just either skip out on the low eastern or cover it with your son, which is kinda still how play court depend the time. Now. If the next enough you can get around with them, but the barcodes better because you get the the low the low end, yeah, but there's there's fewer like embellishment potential things like hammer on and stuff within the cord. So any case I learned that song and then I think I could play Blackbird singing the night. Exactly. That's hard. Did you do that? It's actually. Because to fingers time, sometimes three, that's the most. Oh. Oh, thank you. Fall do. Yeah, won't give you an easy. Sorry. So I wish I had some impressions they've no impression. Jealous. Do. I'm not to try. Okay. Already know enough to know you and I don't have or aren't working for me alone, not impression guy. Those are two good songs dad played music. Then kind of like he knew he knows how to play the guitar. So he taught me songs and he managed to not make it on goule in your house. Like I didn't add with guitar. Kinda was, but I don't know playing. I didn't think he was uncalled first of all end segment all like music, like playing like guitars, that on the tar is always cool us. You do it in front of three people ever and you get the sense that it's cool. Yeah, that's true. But when I got to school up in Berkeley, like gravitated toward the people that also kind of knew how to play music and we started playing music together like all the time, it was like a guy that had a drum kit at his house, and we would go over there after class and just just play music for hours and hours and hours every day. It just happened organically. Yeah, and there'd be like twelve people that were kind of into doing this and we're all friends. We playing songs or James. I don't to core jams to cord jams. That's. Like to court jail, almost nobody really knew how to play their instruments, and we're all just kind of messing around on all of the instruments. And you know, I could sit at the drums for an hour and and play just experiment and everybody kinda sucked. I mean, not actually, but then suck the same one. Great. There was one or two people that the bass player that would play with us mostly like actually knew how to like was real bass player, and so that's helpful. It probably elevated everybody else. Yeah, because it kept you on. Right. And then over the course of a year. It got whittled down to like five of us who were like, maybe getting a little bit better instruments, but I just wanting to have more structure about it and we made a band, really? Yeah. And then that was just going to go until the like there was one year left in college at that point. And so we played to house parties and at the local bar twice. And that was like seniors, senior of college. I was like how to ban, but it was not a thing that anybody's taking seriously. It was mostly covers on's. And then at the end of that writing any orig- I started writing original songs figure out who's gonna be, who doesn't have the personality dictated. Yeah, because I remember I wasn't a singer boogie for a minute. I was the drummer. And then when I started writing songs, that's when they're like, all right. Well, you have to sing the songs that you're writing. So then I became the singer like toward the very end. Did you like unseat someone? No, not really. We all we all relax. It was very much just floating around glorified practice group. It was barely glorified. I don't recall saying glorified brag. That was a prime. We had friends. So we were called the electric cycle. Sounds like a robot getting its Menzies. That is the funniest joke anyone's ever made. I think that's the first time I've ever told name to comedians. Tell that to five, four of us are going to make that job. That's the most obvious I think so. Yeah, I would. I would just don't hang out with people. You certainly do, and you're very fun yourself, but I don't. I don't. I don't tell don't tell anyone that balance. Yeah, that's true. See what happens. So at the end of that, everybody went was going their separate ways and I applied to graduate school, and that's what I was going to do, and and then they night friends in the band, like sat me down and we're like, you, we don't. We think that your songs are good and that you should try and be like singer-songwriter. Like, obviously, this isn't a real like the band's not going to be a thing. We're not gonna do it, but we like your songs and you should really. Yeah, that's so great. They were. They were wrong at the time. That means they were later, I guess. I guess I guess they became right, but I, you know. They were. They were some serious talent scouts because I was many years away from writing anything that I ever respected of my own early songs light. I think there's something so vulnerable about those early. Oh, so vulnerable. That is the most generous word you could use your drying and your arm is, and you're ripping your influences. Well, it's like unjust. I'm just out of my first relationship that I've ever had some totally naive about that going to. My first a first up. Yeah, at twenty one. Yeah. Because the girlfriend that I met in the beginning of college, we were together for two years. And so a lot of songs about that. Yeah. And then I wrote a lot of Elliott Smith ripoffs. Oh, did you during divorce really bad. You write songs. Use rates. We I, I haven't read. I write tilles on for fun if you want to spark up Jay. You'll have you'll have to kick me away from the. It's nine, definitely want to hear. Do I actually think it poor, Valerie, funny, comedy songs? Yeah, there sixty percent amazing and then forty percent of the time. It's like please stop, but there there's trying to be funny jokes. They're funny joke, and I am telling you when they hit. It's like you almost threw up laughing, not because of their so clever. There's just something. So especially when you're out of your own way, that's just like you just hit the right thing in the right rhythm, or you mess up way that it's perfect music like musical comedy is is one of the greatest things in the world. It's a very funny when this on. Well, I suppose it's so good. We spent the whole weekend doing it. We kennison I go mentioned, okay. Okay. You can hear me told me really working to get you established as your own for the upcoming break. Right? So in my old band, the milk carton kids. We just we, we had, we had an award show hosting gig. Days ago, we just awesome the Americana music awards at the Reimann auditorium in Nashville, Tennessee rival. It's the mother church of church. It's. Or wasn't to church for music used to be a church for Jesus was a Jesus and there's bad. There's a couple of seats we can't say, and it's all pews hard wooden, which is good. Everybody's attention. Nobody falls asleep and rock and roll. Statistically more interesting than the by and Wayne Federman came out with us. Wayne was with me when I was at the riot. He was with us when we were at the right. Did he go Pete Holmes here with me here? He didn't mention it. That's weird. Yeah, Texan. I asked him about it too. We did not just mention it. He denied it. He didn't. He kind of ignored the question. Son of a bitch on the same season? Yeah, same same episode. So he we hired him to come and help us right the thing, no way suggestion of of Josh church and Judah, you know, yeah, I know he works jet a lot sense, and he was amazing for us because, you know, we've never really. We try and be funny onstage in the in the folk music kind of way of telling stories and setting up songs and stuff, but you're selling yourself Lou short. I think there's that I've been to folk music shows and then what you do try. I try and do more than that. It's true, but like we don't sit down ever and write material, nor should you. I actually think what you did just jumping right to summation of you sort of jumped ahead to like the master skills like you might be missing some fundamentals and I'm not saying fundamental meeting, you need them, you don't, but the fundamentals of like jokey jokes and right sort of grinding out the basic structures. But you jumped to the much. More important than much more difficult to learn quality of like listening very intently to the audience taking your time, the more I do it, the more I realize like being present and convincing the audience that you're present so important when you do it like it's so clear like you had valenite dying at Largo because you played the wrong song. You played the chords. Oh, and you kept interrupting Kenneth? Like seem to actually be annoying him. We tell if it was a bit or not, but like you kept telling jokes during what seemed to be like a break up song like a very sad song, and we were dying. It was like being stone at the piano. It was like this guy, and that's one of the masterclass. Things of comedy is knowing how to do inappropriate appropriately right meeting. I'm going to keep hitting this off note on purpose off. Not the jokes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I'm going to do them in a way that the tension of is you're going to keep doing this? Yes. Oh, he's going to keep doing it. Surely is done, always going to keep doing it and then it almost stops being funny. And then it's so funny again. Yeah. Well, so not acting. I'm find that folks fact that you'd find that funny means so much to me actually. It really does and also what you like the thing that you said about like. So the bait, like the basic stuff that you're talking about that I think is what happens when we play songs like the songs. I think I think now. Well, yeah, which is why I don't know the fundamentals of comedy, like, I don't know how to an because the way we do our show, then people come up to go you to do stand up and it's like, I know that I can't. I note that like. I know that I don't have that right now because. Everything that I that comedian does to establish who they are onstage to like free eight to savage their perspective and let the audience know who they are, especially in a situation where they don't already know who you are. All of that is done for us with just the rehearsed. I'm glad that you use ical performances that were giving every might we ever do? That's funny is based off of the things that are built up by that in the first place. That's right. And that's for the first ten years stand up. Eighty percent of your energy is how can I quickly inefficient, explain who I am that's seems like these possibly the hardest thing in the air. It's a native occasionally I have to do is show not that I'm super famous, but most of the shows I do are billed as me and people just like you music. But occasionally I'll be in a situation where I'm like, oh, these people don't care who I am opening for somebody or whatever, and they haven't seen what I do, and that's fine. But I'm like, oh shit. And I have to like to stab yourself. To go back and all these old jokes that I don't really want to do anymore. Like I know this and that this is what I look like. Seem like. Yeah, we we do that too. When we still have opening gigs. If we went, we went open for John three shows this this son Ryan drawn prime John Bryan. Yeah, prying. You're saying wrong. But yeah. Turn on all the movies and John John prying John. Prien John Prien. Yeah, one of the greatest. Maybe the greatest debut album ever John Bryan new self title. What is it new? No. So you. Don't know. John prime, John prime. Can't tell you're out. One was a joke. And it seems so funny to me. You answered it. I don't know who John prion is, but when you said he has a great debut album, I'm like, oh, he just bro. No in like nineteen seventy-one. Okay, he's one of the great. I've been great legendary songwriters. What's his country is essentially like something way more than that, and he's and he's active is can be currently just put out a new album this year, which is like. One of my favorites of the whole year full stop anyway. We open three shows remnants like, you know, our hero, one of our heroes. And we got on stage and we're in this community enough that he's in that I thought that people would know who we were a little bit. I realize we realized very quickly like just upon being introduced in coming out onto the stage and doing our first song that for the most part, like none of the four thousand people in the theatre had any idea who we were. Wow. And so we had to go back to like the things we did in the very beginning. Were saying are been even after the first song we're called the milk carton kids, dude sometimes do like stabbing joke because we're do. We play as do like, this is our whole band. This is not the acoustic version. You're not witnessing anything special instrument down, right? But we don't to do that when you're doing your own headline show in the, you know, all that stuff. Madonna thinks she can do stand up comedy, and I admire anybody that tries it, but I don't see. I didn't know because what I appreciated in what you're saying is like it's like elves dwarves having dinner and finally shine respect dwarf. But like it is nice to to recognize that you are benefiting from the from the stage setting of they know who you are because then you can violate or go in line with their expecting. And that's a lot of comedy. The other thing that the musician as a huge advantage in in trying to make an audience laugh is that they don't. They're not expecting to be made to laugh. They don't sit down. That's right. Like they do a comedy club or leader and say, all right, what do you got it? Make me laugh. That's right. And then the other, the other huge in is if we try something and doesn't work, it doesn't matter start us on. Yeah, play others on. That's what they're there for anyway. Right. Like you don't have to save yourself with the same medium that you're currently fucking think that sort. That's so funny. I think that sort of Wyandotte comedians hate musical acts is because they have a crater. Oh, yeah. Crutch and safety net. You can also it opens up a whole different vocabulary of how your funny because I can bang out something really loud after a bad joke or something right after a good job, and they're people that do this wonderfully Nick thin comes to mind. He's sort of, yeah, you're sort of you don't remind me of Nick, but you could do a Nick, SUNY sort of thing, right? You're playing. We never really sing just so right. The guy who never does folk. The guy who spoke act? Yes. I just watched his like our our ever. It was really funny, and it reminds me of somebody that I saw ten years ago who I have no idea who it was still, but it was we had before I was for the milk carton kids, but I just had like a solo gig at the mint, and another person plying was a comedian, and he presented like a musical act. You know, he sat on a stool with his guitar, and the whole is probably five minutes or ten and the whole must've been five. The whole thing was song setups, and I don't remember any of like the, here's a song about such and such and such as such. And then like as he was like picking through, you know, he'd be introducing the song and it would end on a punchline and then he would never play this on. The whole thing was just that it was really funny. It is funny, and I think that's what's tricky is like I've seen a lot of things like that. I'm not saying. Anybody's stole it or its derivative or anything. I'm just saying, if you're funny and you have a guitar, there's thirty five things you can do. I, this could have been Nick thune. It was twelve years. I have. No, but that's one of the tensions of the built into music is when are they going to start the song? Right? And that's one of the tensions that doesn't exist when you don't have a car. Right? Because a comedian is out there and he's doing what he's doing, but you're benefiting I'm not saying this any way easier. It's one hundred percents easy. It could be considered easier. Yeah, that's what it is saying. The tension of when is gonna start. Yeah, so it's built in like he's not doing so right away. You're sort of that's true, but nine miles. Yeah, I'm not playing music. I'm talking and the false start is is is usually funny too because of that tension that you're talking about if you stop you mean? Yeah, or if you mess up. Yeah, message long as over. Eleven. Thing. But so when we did three days ago, we did the Nashville hosting award, show hosting gig and the whole. I was stressing for weeks about like what was going to be like, what are we going to do for opening monologue, whatever. And then I realized that it just had to be musical number. Like we had to write a song and we had to write a song that like I think I don't know if we get asked to do it again. I don't know what we're going to do because the I think the that thing was for me was like, what is going to be the one thing that's kind of on everybody's mind? Like what is everybody in that room having common about like the main perception of that Americana music community and the artists performing the show and everything, and right, like a funny song about that. And so we did that and it was went over so well, it was like sill relieved. What was your interpretation of whatever? Well, the thing. That no thing is nobody knows what Americana is. You can't answer the question and every year everybody's, you can't do an interview around the Americana music festival without the interview saying, so you know, American, it's blues country rock and roll Zydeco Hano jazz. What'd you know? It's a big tent. What? What is what does it mean? Our economy? Yeah, and you can't. There's no answer. You know, it's just not a well defined thing. Ultimately, it's a trade group American music association that has fought for like eighteen years to for recognition for like a some somewhat under the radar versions of blues country country. That's not pop mainstream bro country. It's it's rock and roll. That's not like, you know, on top forty radio, it's all these things that are a little bit under the radar, right? But, but but I think is really good. And it sorta America and American. Yeah, it's like these residual artifacts of American culture pitcher, like an antique coke bottle. Yeah, right objects on the shelf at an antique store con-. Yeah, and so this music is in some way, but so the song is called what even is American and it's just sort of playing on all of the things that people think are Americana. Well, you've touched on one of the main tensions of being a comic is like, what? What do I do next time? Yeah, you know what I mean? Even after you put out your first or your navigate your, I think like Ricky Gervais said the golden glove. The first time you're there, you can do the what am I doing here? Right? Like I'm not the right person. Yeah, but then definitely it's time deprecation. Yeah, exactly. Every time you're there, you're like, isn't it that they had me here again, it's not as fun, but yeah, I mean needed. I'm not critiquing. I'm just saying that first time out, it kind of goes back to the tension. In Aaron in not starting song like comedy thrives in something ten. So you guys were like, we don't know at American is it sounds like you had a dash of. We don't even know what we're doing here. That's tension and then we can make jokes about that tension. That's why like Eminem's new record is so great. I think because he's mad about all these people that made fun of them. You know what you need like it's good to have something to fight against tension or awkwardness or disrupting that's missing in like folk music is if. We should kill this tracks. Yeah. Like start some real ship. That would be funny. I would be funny, but like. If you did like a beautiful duet shitting on, like, who would you should on who's who? When milk carton kids don't get the gig who got it. There's a lot of them. The problem is like there are friends. Yeah, I know. And everybody's really nice. Yeah, but that's funny picture you guys, melting skillets butter skillets, flipping Hayek aches. You don't even call them Platt gags and somebody brought their own local Honey and stuff like that's what I'm fixing is Honey. I'm gonna kill you. Ben folds. Did that sort of staff do sort of gangster rap right? Pano things covers though they're covered. But I mean, like it would be super funny. And your Neo nemesis. Doing more funny things. I mean, you're super funny and you're crashing and on granting, so thank you. You're welcome. I don't know that for a fact. I know you've seen. I have seen. That was the being on being thrown into that situation was the most like fish out of water, use two contradictory metaphor, fish out of water being thrown into the deep end. That's great. I've ever been in because. So the other thing that I do water at room. It room. I don't know the knowing that lyric man that is. No, not no. I won't hold not when you did it, but in general, I like that you took my phrasing of what I wanted to say that was, but it was. It was exactly right because people do it all the time. I don't mind when people say that bid. You don't know often. They're right. That's a different approach. I suppose. Usually we're laughing and they're like, you should do that on stage and it's just a compliment. I'm saying, you said something. There's a great. That's a great moment in crashing though that. NC's too to think where. Probably you're talking to alley. And yeah, she says that the funny you should do that and you're really that stage funny? Yes, h funny. Yeah, that's a sage by that was very enlightening. To me that's about process of I've said this million times. John Mullany is the one who called me fun dad. And that became like talk about the bits that like none of you helped fund lane who you are. I'm like a fun dad, and everyone allow Mullany said that to me and Josh Lieb said, you're like a youth pastor and all these things that I was like, oh, this is how people see me, right, but not just that. I mean, Jamie Lee when we did in real life briefly, we've been friends for decades and I was like your point out. We've had this lovely friendship way long dated, but we did they briefly. She and I were walking and I, I was just talking about how it sucks to be a kid and how much I love being able to walk around and buy a piece of pizza root Macabbi. And if you're a kid and you get in a cab, get the fuck out of my calves. Yeah, my store, if no power you get rained on us, get rained on. I by rain code like they can't do shit and she was laughing so hard. She's a great laugher. I get the same thing. Obviously, Valerie, they're both great Lavers and they'll both give me that gift of like you should do that. And so often the best bets are the ones that people or someone will remember, they'll go like, do you still do that writing about pizza boxes? And you're like, what? And you're like, oh, shit. So I meant it honestly when I was like, isn't annoying because I have one good musician friend, and I'm all he's always saying things that I'm like, that's lyric, but I don't wanna say it. So now I know I shouldn't. Well. I don't know if everyone's the same about that. But I am so. Like songwriting is such a personal wake emotionally deep thing, and maybe it's taking it entirely too seriously and actually don't write that many songs. I'm not a particularly prolific writer. Sometimes thought about like trying to just write songs about things that don't seem. Like mortally important. That's a great. I'm not even gonna. Mortally important is a great album. Title. I'm not saying for you for somebody mortally goals that's instinct to write a song only really comes in those moments when I'm taking things that are really important to me and able writes great songs about things that are not like, you know, are inherently just more trivial than that. Not that they're trivial things because you can make something deep about anything, but you know, you have like you're doing a puppet shit like a shadow puppet show in your bedroom under the covers, and you don't want someone ducking in and going, you should say that thing about deep and fish outta water. Like it's not that that couldn't be a leyrac, but it's I feel the same way about inspiration. And there's a certain alchemy to it and there's a certain conjuring feeling to it. Yeah. And you don't want someone else's voice even if it's their voice saying what you said, makes sense. You don't wanna fuck with the MO Joan. Right? Is that about right? I think so. I, I like I like riffing about things. What are what's funny? I don't really like stiff riffing about like song lyrics goes for co. Writing is very, obviously, very common thing, and I hate it. I hate it to hate it. I don't need it at all. I couldn't stand it. I can't understand me and kumail tried to write drugs together ones. Can't you? Can't do it the thrill. I wonder what it's like for you. I like riffing because humor is my instrument is other people. So it's like having like borrowing someone else's tar and you're like, oh, that kinda got a laugh from you, and that's helpful. But like. You want to do it on your own, and the thrill is figuring out how to take something that was in you and bringing it out. It's not as fun, fun dad and more pastor was nice to do someone else's idea, but it felt so right to me, I was I rather do it alone and then present it and then get the thrill. I like to me, there's a big difference between like the art of songwriting in the craft of songwriting. What do you mean like the art of it is that conjuring thing that you're talking about to me? This is sometimes the way I think about. I don't know if it's true but like the, you know the this part of it. That's self expression where you're taking something that you think about or feel and are trying to put it in a way that's going to be relatable to someone else so that you can get this thing that's in you out or you can reach out for some sort of connection that role desperate for. Whatever the whatever that impulse is to me. That's like, that's, that's the artistry of it. Then there's the. It's all about having a feeling that secret in you implant writing it on demand, someone rents, whatever the medium that's that's like the artistic impulse. Right? We talked about that a lot. It's like the feeling is the point you don't have. What does this mean? Just feel somebody it's okay, right? You're not right or wrong to see what you feel, but then how to turn that into a song requires some craftsmanship, the same way that whatever instinct you have for something. That's funny. The way that becomes a well-crafted joke is because you're a good craftsman rights like building chair. Xining achievers building chedda. You know what I mean? Like exactly. And when I'm when you right when you write with when I write with someone else, I end up feeling like I'm helping to build a chair that I didn't necessarily design, which is that it's not valuable. I mean, craftsmanship is beautiful and important to, but different from saying, I want this charity. Yeah, you know when there is no chair, one is a trance place. We always say flying kites into a into a black hole, and then you pull it back. Goblin stuck on that, right? Like, okay, that's not possible. I understand black holes are, and then I think it's really interesting when I write a mortgage on my book right now. And you do this sort of free, right? Like I make space like you hit return a bunch of times and you sort of like putting all the pieces, anything you think sort of goes in the document? Well, this happened, this happened, there's this most this joke, and then there's a sort of mosaic and you're like, oh, those are all the parts. And then you really do feel like a carpenter and he'd start going like, well, I'm saying it here and I'm saying it in the punch lines all change this, it this, so I can save the sound it for the end. And it's very not trance-like. It's much more like Nick Offerman, like driving a screw into a bench. Which is interesting that he is a crafts actually a craftsman. Yeah. In addition to being a writer and humorous love to have him on. I wonder what he thinks about because I feel and I'd love to hear you think about when you read his on in a moment. And I'm almost done. I feel the same satisfaction as if I made something tangible. If I write a couple pages or a couple of jokes. It might as well be like the metaphor that I am an alchemist and I made a bag of gold. It's that real. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. It's not like, oh, I wish I envy people that made something that you can touch. I'm like, fuck that. This I can't touch it. I can feel it. So I carry it around with me the satisfaction that I did it now, so that's, that's I feel exactly the same way about writing a song. And then one thing I've noticed in recent years, you know, in the beginning, there was this really strong desire to like get people to get to a place where I would have people that would listen. You know, when you're starting out, you have no audience and you like writing these songs and you obviously think they're good, and then you just really want that. Like I dunno affirmation, I guess some people to listen and like and validation. Yeah. And now I, I really find if I write a song. Song. Like I just know if it's good or not, and I don't really don't really need to play it for people how old you thirty six. See, I'm thirty nine and I think you're early. I think you're whatever based on me because I'm just sort of getting to that place. Whereas I really wanna see comedians have that thing with it play in Peoria. No-one really says it anymore, but it as being a regular place where Richard Pryor's, but I played a lot of jokes, don't plan. But like this time around doing new album this year, new special, I was like, I'm not as concerned nor do I think most comedians working now as concerned with is this nationally appealing? I, I'm not saying you don't want thousands of people in every state run of it, but you don't want everybody in every sweat to love it. Being more niche is actually valuable. Like you think, especially in the net, it's like, that's got really good jokes. Got a good level of broadening too, and I'm not saying it's inaccessible, but you actually want to be like it's more it makes more sense to be Eugene Merman these days than it does to be like the broadest like even my mom likes some high, like we all go together who some accent. But I think what I'm saying, what I'm hearing you say is at a certain point, you're like this make sense to me. Me and it is already a bag of gold. I don't even need people to listen to me. It kind of feels like making a table and then keeping it in your own dining room. Yes, I say it on stage a lot. I go. If I was in the audience, I'd be losing my mind. Yeah, and that's every time I say. I mean, because I found the joke, that is my sense of humor. And then you're sort of like, I get it if you don't love it, like, how could I possibly make something that everyone would? Well, there's two things that come to mind about that one is comedy is so much more risky than music and so much more dependent on the audience than music because no matter what the audience things of your song they know to clap at the end. Yeah, that's true. One hundred percent of the time and you can pretty quickly judge the enthusiasm with which they're applauding, and you know, they loved the song or if and just okay. But like yeah, but you can't make an audience laugh. If the joke didn't work, there's they don't. They don't fake. Do they? They don't fake laughs. Sometimes they do. You can tell there's different laugh. There's diff-. Courtesy laughs that I've been. I've been, I've been in enough audiences where there was like crickets. Nothing which doesn't happen after a song. I had this. There's a lot of vocabulary in music as well that I wonder if you have to fight against like, for example, they were writing a song and the last line is like, and that was the last summer I spend in those woods, right? There's a, there's a a move, someone thought of it at some point. And now it's just what we call music. He let that cord play out. And then again, you go the last summer. Spend. Exactly. I didn't even know that, but we now know that like that's what is sounds like when it's done classical music, all all ends with like Tom. Well, that's how you end the it's over. It's not. Where the song they just keep playing ending, they keep playing different ending motifs over and over. They do that. Yeah, I heard it on radio. It's like it was like a comedy thing. It was like it was just a classical song ending for like three minutes. It was like bumps bum. Just one ending. On for. So it's like the length of his song. Yeah, just endings, but isn't that interesting and it's hard it. You keep laughing. It's like it's funny, and then it's not funny, and it's funny again and it's not funny, and then you think, okay now, for sure it's over. And then again, it's not Joey Ryan bit. Yeah, it's like what you do. It's a very hard thing to do. I think he even though as soon as you call it a tag, like of course, in comedy, we have all these laws that just sound like American two thousand eighteen writing humor and people come and change them. Right. I know Louis obviously is a jerk face and he I watched him change the way people do calming. You get a fucking class bottle up your ass, and everyone started kind of doing that more like thing where you don't know what you're gonna say, right? Even though you do tending like you don't know what you, you might be riff, who cares? Not the worst accusation made about him. He might be faking. Yes, ref. I think he's a pretty well. Written. So he's performing. And then I watched all these, especially younger comedian doing that thing in the same way that we were doing Seinfeld in the same way Seinfeld was being, you know, who doesn't do that, which actually took me at took me until took me a lot of tries to get into, and I kept trying because he's so universally loved and respected and it Mullany. Interesting. He's so deliberate and never stutters we're stops or appears to be searching anything that it was like a little bit disorienting me about this. Remember I was. I asked you cause you wear a suit on stage. Yeah, and I was sort of going, I wear age and it was actually, you landed on somewhere on? I don't know a rea-. Yeah. And had you had something to do with that? And we both love Mullany and you sort of pointed out that you like an idea too. Him in again, with acknowledgement to the wrongs that Louis is done no endorsement here. I'm just saying I related to a guy in a t-shirt more than than than a guy. Yeah. Yeah. You were like some guys are Seinfeld Seinfeld Mullany, but I was like right signs. Never like he wants you to know that every word he's saying trying to liberate. He's showing you his knife collection. Yeah. He's opening these like velvet case, and I just went and saw in Vegas really like an. Yeah, no, like a like a pilgrimage. I mean, oh, master who opened right Hamilton? No, although I've become friendly with Ryan, so I definitely asked him if he was going to join exciting, no embarrassed to have forgotten his name. Curtain because they didn't know when you open for. Right. John prying eyes trying. Yeah. Funny, your funny, just saying prime not trying to decide great time and grape delivery. Okay, but so now we were to go back on another thing, which is I wasn't trying to be funny just there. I didn't think you were, and that's part of what made it funny. It's Winkler. How hard did we laugh at Henry Winkler? And it was just because you've done the masterclass work of bringing who you are. The surface and people are delighted by a lot of different things. And one of them is just seeing someone authentic, it makes us laugh, right? That's why we love like, you know. All sorts of folks are you when you do that or deliberate about it? Like do you know that you're doing that you're trying to do that because you get out of my own way like, no, like be offensively yourself. That's what I mean. I have to get out of my own way to do that. Yeah, that's why you like like I don't try. I don't know that I'm doing that. I don't or try to do that. Trying to do a right now. I'm on stage. Yeah, but then you do it so often in life, it's like, then it bleeds into the stage and then it is thought Lewis in the good way. Yeah. Oh, there was two things. I was going to say. The first thing was, oh, you're talking about being broad versus having like a specific appeal. So do you think that I know that it's true and music? There is no. There are things that sell better than others. But there isn't. We don't have a culture. We don't have a centralized culture currently where like. Like you couldn't have the Beatles again. Like, you know, the British invade Beatle mania. You couldn't have a thing where the whole country get swept up in something for better or worse, which is why if you notice, we still have the same cultural touchstones Star Wars, kind of Harry Potter last thing. The Beatles is still the reference for a sense, right? It's not Yana reenters fragmented now because there's so many different places to get art to receive to consume it. And there's so many different. There's just so much more of it. There's so many fewer filters to what can be put out in the world and so many different ways to receive it that like, yeah, there's just even the biggest thing in the, you know, who's the biggest artists beyond say or whatever. Like, I mean, that's the closest thing. You know, but it's still. It's still feels different to me like there's still a ton of people who just like, don't even exist in her world at all. Right. A lot of people. I don't know. My mom knows who beyond onto, right, but my mother's mother knew the end. She weighed in English. You know, like she was pickling things that we don't pick all and speaking. And she was like, ooh, pool. Yeah, boots. Do. The president like everybody knows. There's only like the president is the only central national figure left in that way, and it used to be that through art or culture you could. You could chief that level of like, you know, focused attention, and so that's not that's not true anymore. So maybe makes sense that you're not worried about having a broad national wide, do it? Yeah. Even if you did what it's good for. It can be good for art where we right. It can be good to have. I think he can be healthy instead of letting the business side of things come into it, which I think I think comedian should be funny. And I think I don't know what the music music should be musical. I don't know what the equipment is, so I'm not like, let's all just do whatever. Whatever you do is fine. Like everybody gets trophy sort of thing. But I do think there's something nice about removing when I was starting out. You had to be able to kill everywhere. Right? And we used to look at guys Eugene Merman who I already mentioned on, you're like, well, you gene. That's interesting. What, what are you gonna do with that? Kind of like our own brains sort of like his dad like that's fun, but how you're gonna make a buck or whatever. Then the world shifted right under and with gene. And now you can be gene wonder. Reggie was plays Reggie, but there was a time when it was like, yeah, but you need some like. ABC like the old guys used to say that too. It's great that you have these cute jokes, but you need the fundamentals. I'll tell we were the Globetrotters like you to shoot free throws and now the Globetrotters in the NBA. Right? Which is great. Or just more people started going to Globetrotters gets right, and they got closer. The carpenter started the score a little. To close game. What do the senators? I thought it was the carpenter and it must be the center. Anyway. I'm such a dick why corrected me. I, I don't even know the right answer. I'm the guys know that that wasn't right. I think I realized this recently the jets. It's been comfortable. Senators is actually better because you don't know any like senators, Washington. Interesting. I I've been putting this together lately. It depends on how it's done, but I sort of I'm a person that likes to be told one I'm wrong when he said that were at the beginning. I like that. And I like. When people explain things to me and like, I, I don't mind if you go like p and I notice that you do this like I just didn't have the kind of dad that was always giving me like, right, but loads of like unsolicited advice. I think that might be what turned like dad's planning? Yeah, I didn't really have a dad's planning. So if you wanna make me feel loud to be like PD mentioned the f. I don't know if you know you can put your thumb renowned, especially when I was young. That's so funny that you would attribute it to that because I am the exact same way I love being corrected when wrong I love being explained to. Yeah, like when the whole concept of man's finding came out. Yeah, like I know that I'm in and everything. Yeah, but I was like, I don't care who explain stuff to me. I love to be explained now, I guess obviously the point is that you're explaining something to someone who obviously knows more than you about it or is an. Expert in the thing, and you're not even sure that I haven't gotten a clear definition. I, nobody's women's planned planning is explain to me because well, literally Beaubourg got a great mass. Nancy. I don't remember. He's about some of the funniest comedy songs, funny songs. Oh, I never. Well, he's next level. He's next next level, so, but I remember explaining something to somebody and I thought I was just doing what I. It's interesting how we pick up on things differently. This is one of the things when it comes about like being sensitive to other people's histories and the history of what it feels like a woman. Yes, something that I don't understand. I understand that I don't understand so where it can feel nice to me if somebody goes like, no, I heard this and this this. Yeah, I would never be like back off, but I understand that that can feel very bad. Yeah, ten and somebody that had often do like where it's like, well, the open a can of tuna fish sweetheart. You push it in something that they obviously now is. I thought that was man's planning. I've been accused of man's planning when I was explaining something that I thought was kind of. Difficult or unique that I knew right. And it was like, JoJo your man's by. And I was like, I by that because I love when people manned yet. Thrive on Manziel or just. Let's take. Let's take some people. Listening might be cringing. I like being explained. I like having people explain things to me respectfully and checking in with me whether or not do you already know this and the dialogue? No, it's true, and I get the whole point of it. That is that is cringe-worthy about any of these things that we don't have the history of being condescended and demands planes all the time so that our radars up. So if somebody explain something to us that they have no business explaining to us, we are in the privileged position of being able to go back by idiot walking away. That's right. And it's not like dominating your life past and your your concept of how you fit into the world. Speaking of having people explain things you've Val Val splaine's things to me all the time, and it's always you don't understand the history of the people that are saying because you can be like, that doesn't make any sense, right? We're all because you're thinking we're all even playing. No, you need to consider this this and this. So like dating a younger person or maybe just more woke per younger? Yes. She's ten years younger, so the benefit a lot from them because you grew up in a slightly different world with Snapchat. It's nap before I know, but I do there is. E, let's okay. So I, I still, I still I still say, I love being explained to, and I love being corrected, people like that. There are definitely people that don't like being corrected when you're wrong, and there's nothing I love more than being correct. Just on a factual thing. Yeah, and I always think it's. Flatter myself that it's because I like to know things until learn things until like be right the next time. Yeah, to improve or whatever. I'm with you. I won't forget that they're called the generals. I haven't adrenaline associated with that experience. Yeah, we called the generals so next time on stage and I'm riffing about the Globetrotters you say general and I'll be good for it. It'll be a better laugh than if I said the senators, the carpenters, which are both in correct. So I, I enjoy that. You know, I understand that some people aren't into it, but I also like advice, you know what I need about, like credit criticism, constructive. I need. I'll give you exactly what I'm being high school on. Never forget. A kid told me that I didn't have to bring all my books to class us, like, you know, you don't have to, you know, read kid next to you or sometimes they have them in the class like you don't like. I was really hurting my bat, right? Such a nervous and every break-up I've ever had, I had like a whole council a whole congress of people helping me right and giving me advice, an advice secret. Yeah, it is different when you ask because it comes that see that thing comes from a place of what you know that person like cared about. You enough to to make you on suffering, and it was like, you know, you don't have to do that right. Fucking love that. And I'll take that. I get mad if you knew that you didn't tell fuck you. And the worst is definitely happened. A lot was wait till you show up to class. They look at it. It's asshole. Carrying all his books to class, make fun of you for it in front of everybody. Although be an older brother, I learned to interpret teasing in to my advantage. Like if someone teases like I was actually just writing about this today, that is not me clip my phone to my bell and Christian Finnegan went belt clip. Took it off. Oh, you took that in the same spirit of. Being he wasn't like, look at, he just went belt clip, Hon. I was like, thank you. I didn't know. People were thinking it was the first time I unveiled it. I walked into the, I remember where we were. I remember his face and I was just thank you. It was the first. So you were like, I'm going to try failed. I, I remember I, it's so sad. New phone rings again, there. Again there and I had it in my bag and I couldn't wait to put it on and I put the skin. It was my trio. I put the skin on it and I put in the clip because I was proud of it, clipped it on and I'm looking in the mirror sizable device. It is sizable, and I was like, I think this is okay, and I walk. I'm wearing cargo shorts and a t shirt like a dad contractor and he was kind. But he if he hadn't said anything to me later, if someone made fun of me and he went, yeah, when I saw it right. I thought immediately. I need help. Yeah. So did you? No. I'm wondering if we should talk more about Masika because you're a wonderful in, although we were talking about crashing because what happened was, oh, yes. Are you Lago Di? You're super funny. I had to write a character for Allie to be dating in season three, and I wanted him to be somebody that we hadn't seen before somebody that Pete would actually like and sort of understand someone that's very different from Pete. So I like that you are suits. I like that you were funny, but in this way, that's not a comedian funny. And I mean that as on a dig. So you're funny in your own way and you're deadpan and I. So I put it. This is very rare that this works out. You put it in the script. He's picture Joey Ryan from the milk carton kids. And and it worked? Yeah, it almost didn't. There were a couple of moments that we had two people still. So you didn't get it. There were additions and we consider other people. Okay, amazing. But the whole time I secretly so my experience was to myself that I wanted you to do it. My experience was we did that show to the living learn, oh, your show. And then like some couple of weeks later we've ever got an invitation through, like our manager. To come to the table, read for crash, and then I was. So I was like, cool. What's table? You know, I mean, I was like, what is table read? And then there was some explanation in the Email that like it was very, it was they were. They were being very non committal. I assumed that about you doing. Yeah, they didn't know. That's important. Yeah, it was into it was not. That was probably coming from me actually because I've gotten bitten the, but I can't say this on the record enough. I don't get to cast the. Yep, that's why was almost never worked. So the description was with Alli being played by relate. I was like, you wanted to want this way or this is based on you should be you. Yeah, but it was a whole thing in happy days was getting detailer that it was her and it was happy dealing you, but it almost never works out. Yeah. Well, that's, that's. That's why the language was like, Joey. I'm not giving you the part. I didn't even get that far until the night before. The only thing I heard the first day was some. We invite friends and family to come down here like. People read through the script and give notes about it. So you you were going to be in the audience? I didn't. I just didn't know. I was like chooses, I don't. I don't. I don't know what's going on like, I'm just so like I I, I'll. I'll I'll admit to you that I haven't seen the show and I watch I'd binge the whole show in two days and can look. You did. Yes, truly eight, truly love as much as you me thinking. You're funny, genuine talent, real unique, funny boys. That still means a lot to me. I do not go like, oh, cool. I'm like good. Thank God. Yeah, I didn't know what I was being called in for. So I was definitely going to have to have seen the show at you for every actor like Madeline, who played my girlfriend in the next season. I don't think she had seen the show. Nobody you can't. There's two fucking shows. Right. Watch these show. Yeah. There's so many shows that I wanna watch so many, we thankfully. Good too is so good and now anyway, so I watched. I watched the thing and then the night before they sent the, they sent some scripts through and they were like, we'd like Joey. If he's comfortable to like read some of the characters, some of, you know, read multiple characters because not everyone, you know. You were rolled. Yeah, we wanna be relieved. There was like a waiter that had two lines, six characters for people to maybe can put it together with context table read you just set at a table and you read out loud. So the actor said, at a table facing room of the writers and producers, and you read the scripts through and some coffee shop somebody I learned all this that day when I got, I had never been to one or seen on or knew it was fun. So. But not all the actors are available in that day. So you have like substitutes or whatever, sitting in reading, obviously, I'm not reading for the part of leaf rats, things you're going to get leave. But so then when orange God leaf because I wanted George, George Choubey got to see if he can do it. Right. So you invite them to the table, right? And then he killed at the table and then you, it's almost like another minnea- dishes. So I didn't know that like somebody was considering me for part until I got the script the night before and saw the character description. It said it is picture nearly took out my name, but it was like a description of me. That's so and I was like. Deadpan suit. The way I remembered it was reluctantly likeable. That's actually said, you can't help, but like him. It's fun. So then, but then I realized, like, what was that? You know, then I realized what was going on. And I was like potentially being considered a part. And then we can tell for the people at home, even though I've already confessed to you, you gave me an acting note which made me feel like I turned into someone that wasn't and actor vice into maybe somebody that could do a little middle at bit of action. I do enjoy because people did this for me someone going like, here's one tip the tip that I was so right. What was well everyone. So when you're a musician, especially, you've been in LA awhile everyone things you can be an actor and they just go be yourself, go play yourself yourself, right. And that never made any sense to me because I'm like, I'm ten different people throughout the day. What you what are you? Which one. Yeah. Joey, right? And also the character seems angry. And when I look angry, I don't look really angry yet stupid. Yeah, I'm so you use that. Stupid. You said do the yourself on stage? Do your stage character? Yeah, and that like in the milk carton because that's the thing that I know how to do. I know how to like turn it on. Right, because that's exactly what I wanted I wanted to do. There's a lot of characters. I write chicken wing, that we write chicken wing, George, your character where a lot of the humorous, how slowly they do it, right. It's not funny, say funny. I know he's great. Chaired actor place chicken wing, Kevin woods, east chicken wing, and the scripts because he made a joy always eating chicken wings, which is so funny. And then you did it perfectly. But a lot of it would like one of the lines was like, you give her a cookie, and she says that oatmeal raisin, and you go that one hundred percent chocolate chip, and that's only funny if you do it right, like you're not doing it right? Like it's a non joke, visit guy that dryly says, that's one hundred percent chocolate. Ship, and it just made us laugh. Only of you did it the way you do it. And obviously every writer loves writing for a clear voice and I, it was very easy to channel you. Yeah. Well, man, I was a lot of fun. And also you can imagine that as a musician whose like you know, tries to be funny between songs having having a comedian whom you admire, invite you to be on their funny show with all the other comedians, like incredibly nerve wracking and validating and like challenging all encompassing like intense experience. What was it like for you to shoot. It was insane, especially on jet Deb on judge episode, especially because we'll the first day I showed up and they give you the. Now I'm like using the terminology like I didn't just learn it for five days. But like by the end of the week, I know that what they give you in the mornings called the sides either. It's not collard greens. It's script. What's the pages that you're doing that day? I guess. And so I wasn't in any of them like I didn't have any lines so, but nevertheless, I'm like makeup and I'm getting close on eight in the morning, and I'm like going to be there all day and have no lines, and I'm reading through the thing figuring out why I'm there. And I see at one point like, oh, because in the scene that's going into that scene, I was there and somebody's walking away from me at the start of the scene there actually filming. Right. So I'm going to be there for like, stand there from second, and that's it. And then when we started shooting the scene, it was like, oh, well, Ted is standing there like he wouldn't just not join the conversation, right. So all of a sudden like the first thing that we did on the Monday Judd with you and model? Yeah, walking in an Amine Jamie layers standing there together and turned we both turn to you and have a whole conversation. And I had no lines, and I was just like to my supposed to say something just like, yeah, whatever, whatever you think. Okay. I've never done this before. Right. Keeping that to yourself. Yeah, but he knew that he knew that, but so on the one hand, it's like an incredible vote of confidence, but also maybe not paying that close attention. And so I don't know. Did you talk in that team? Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to remember at the end. Yeah. I mean, I have no idea what gets used because all the whole thing was. So the whole thing was improvisational right that like, but by the end, every scene, it's ten minutes long and really it's only twenty seconds. So who knows what? It's actually used his driving our producers crazy. Which is what's great about having Judd directors because everybody's sort of, you know, make way for Michael Jordan doesn't matter like you can kind of do whatever you want. Sometimes we do have to, you know, move it along. You can tell the people are like moving along. There's a lot. There's some people's jobs on the satellite eighties job is like the liver for the stress of the whole production. Right? So everything's stressful. The toxic talk of it goes through the one stressed out person called the assistant director. They cannot seem stress than they're really good at. Yeah, but that's that's the person. Because I'm willing, I think kit was or Ellen. It was Ellen that like the thing I said to her at the end of the thing that the end of the five days was like, I can't believe you just did the job that you did. And at the end of it, everyone in the room likes you still was in Greg. She was so good at it. Very, very yes because you're the total whip-cracker. Yeah, at every moment. And you have to like yell at a room. One hundred people hunts constantly, and then but, but like she just everybody loved her. Somebody that like their life expectancy is like forty five. Like there's a lot of heart attacks and they're just like. It fosters like an unhealthy eating thing and smoking being like most of the eighties we had were ex smokers, like they're all trying to get healthier because they realize very stress seems especially you were doing an episode that was there were like thirty five cast members. Yeah. So make up with stress. It's everybody who strikes seemed unique to me again as somebody that has no experience in that the whole thing takes places in one room. So even when you're not in the scene, you have to be there like being in the background of the scene, it's all just everybody's in the room the whole time, and you have to be. I know this sounds obvious, but you have to be in the same position. You have to be doing the same thing. If you shot a scene where you're drinking, and then we're shooting the scenes in front of the where you have to do the same to shut the clock back to the climb. You think they'll do wristwatches wristwatches back. There's a lot of other productions. You realize just how great crashing 's team is. You have dedicated people like there's only job is to make sure that clock is not only job, but then it's going to be a right fucking cloud, which is pretty exciting. We did a great job. Thank you. The. I can't believe we've been talking for ninety minutes. Nice. Well. Maybe we should talk about music again. The ninety minute Mark. We usually get in the meaning of life, but we will talk about music in this. Unfortunately, I'll keep us to that even though I love talking to, you could talk to you forever. That's an overstatement. You seem like a fact guy, so I don't want to be too high. Her Bolus, yeah, pedantic, yes. You know, who's been Antic in veteran. He I don't know if you noticed man, shit, yesterday hungry. I could eat a horse. He'll stop. You really can't. He can't help them sell horses, like nine hundred pounds or really can't help myself. I got up this morning like he want. That's got one of those brains were using no. I told them they told him I was thanking him for having for helping us with the War. I said that we literally couldn't have done it without him. I can't believe which I met. Yeah, and he said, thank you. Thank you for letting me know you don't know the meaning of the word literally. That is everything. Can't believe you all. Tell me that visited more evidence that we believe is true, and that makes me happy. And I said, no, I meant literally figuratively Wayne figuratively couldn't have done it without you, but you do mean it. I did mean literally you couldn't have done it that well, couldn't have wanted the modifier like that without you right. Like that. But also there was the, it was a high stress situation and Kenneth been working together for a long time, and we generally know how to get things done, but also we can go off the rails with each other and Wayne's presence and like just attitude and. Just the corralling of the whole circus of the whole thing. Yeah, he's was. Yeah. I mean there there might have been like actually missed cues. You know, not being on saving. We were supposed to be like, things could have acted around. Yeah, literally would not not just like it wouldn't have been as funny like might have Wayne. I'd have not happened. So thanks Wayne. Now we're man literally. Well, let's just say we don't not talk about it. It sounds like you're Jewish raised Jewish, not observant. Unobservant modern man. Yes, but a lot of my philosophical theological and spiritual thinking is informed by the Allah g. and philosophy of Judaism. You enjoy the vocabulary and the symbols? No, no, not to symbols. I don't enjoy the symbols. I find some of the cabbie Larry useful, but mostly there's just been some minimal exposure to like the mysticism and the. For three thousand years. All Jews have wanted to do is sit around and talk about the thing I think we're about to talk about for the next thirty minutes and write it down and then and then they're back. Their kids grew up reading what they wrote down and arguing about if they were right or not. And there's the whole written record of it for thousands of years. Right? So it's like a school of philosophy. You know, it's like it's like Confucianism or something. It's like people have just been arguing about it for so long. So there's a lot of wisdom and a lot of smart people thought a lot about it. So no, I participate. Don't enjoy any of the symbolism or dogma, or really vocabulary. I guess you like the approach. I liked the approach. I, the high learn. I like the eastern western hybrid of it all, you know, I like the, I like the Kabbalah. Jewish missed a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Although it sounds like from what you said earlier, you don't necessarily want to read what old people, what people yesterday wrote as much as you'd like to contribute to the conversation in the style that they were converting? Well, the with the things that they talk about in the conclusions that they've reached some of them appeal to me in terms of how I like how I look at the world. For example. I like western, like Christianity seems to me to be hyper focused on the afterlife. Hey, just kidding. For my tastes. No, it is. Whereas like Buddhism or something like that seems to be. Also hyper focus on like on like a as Sita schism, self deprivation. Transcendence, things like that. When I. Very, very much into that too. But like one of the things that I like Judy and again, I'm like, I, I completely non-observant like I don't. I don't do the traditions observed the holidays for follow the rules. But when I think about like what's important in life, the idea that. Pleasure and meaning in this life is as premium portent as earning some status for the soul should there. Should you encounter some afterlife that very appealing to me? I'm totally with you. Judaism's very grounded religion. That's why it's like baked into a heritage in people in a bloodline of the earth. You're not supposed to focus too much on the afterlife. No, because we don't know. Obviously, I mean, you talk about this. Nobody knows nobody knows what's happening. And so the only thing we really have as much as we want to sit and there's a whole school of popular like there's like a spate of think pieces that come out every year now about every time he on musk tweets about whether we're living in a simulation or not, you know this idea that like maybe nothing is real. Nothing is as it seems this whole world that we live in with our bodies and our five senses and the things that we perceive. Maybe it's all in some way less real than something else, whether that's an afterlife or base reality. And we're just in assimilation built on top of that substrate. That's very appealing thought to us as humans for some reason desire to transcend our physical presences with. And I think attracts us two schools of thought which tell us in some way that this is not real right. We like that, but I think it Israel Israel. I mean it either either Israel or. Or it's just as real as any other level of reality. And the main thing for me is if it's not real. What difference does it make because you can't get out of it. By definition because you're part of the thing that isn't real. Yeah. And anytime you were ever in any level of reality, whether or the afterlife or base reality or a simulation, as long as you were precluded from having any glimpse outside of that universe, you could always postulate that the yours was not the real one. You would have no way to verify or wherever it doesn't have any impact on how you so one live around us thing. Pardon me, but he says, you're in school. Why not take the curriculum? Right. I think it does point to a yearning whenever we're like, this is a simulation or this is my own, like the Buddhist right idea or just play or it's a dance or something I think is just speaking to or wizard of Oz right behind the curtain. I think just points to the idea that there's something that we are that is separate from what's happening meaning we're, we're in the puppet. Like, I guess the sole idea where we're enemy, the puppet, but there's something behind that's going what's going on. You're saying you're more interested in while this is going on. Let's go on with it. Some in some way. I'm saying that, but I'm also very interested in in the discussion and the perception of that duality between the physical and the spiritual and the, you know, the body and the soul feels like two different things in feels like they exist on different planes just the experience of being alive. It does feel like. This isn't all there is, but also the the idea that in some way, I guess I'm open to the idea that this isn't all there is, but when it bothers me when it comes at the expense of the thing that this is right, the idea that this, this isn't my home just passing through get this over with. Right. And one of my favorite Simpsons jokes where mud Flanders almost dies and she goes on. I almost went to attornal paradise. It was awful. No, I'm with you. I wrote this down today. I said, hell, separation having his union now and later potentially, but certainly now we know the things that lock us into this right? And there's no greater feeling that I experienced potentially of divinity outside of certainly psychedelics then creating things and sharing them getting in a state of flow or what I would call union yet. Right. And that what is the. The Koreans. So. Some a little been a decade. At least since my body has just not been able to feel good enough on psychedelics for me to want to keep doing them and get any more meaningful experiences out of them. But I definitely have had a lot of great and meaningful enlightening experiences with them to what is what do you mean when you say the experiences you have with divinity and connectedness, obviously come from tech l. but also some of some other things like, what is that? How does that feel to you as a psychedelics? Yeah, like what are the what? What do you think? What are the thoughts that go through your head where you go? This feels like being connected in some sort of evidence of divinity. It's a short answer. That sounds like a question that would have a long answer, but I think it's short answer. It's just the feeling of being a fish and seeing water. You know what I mean? You're just like, oh, it's one thing. It's nevermore to me that it's one thing. Yeah, that experience. Right? Yeah, it is the overarching experience of and that's. And that's true. And that's what spirituality and union of of Mrs. to me is finding more sustainable methods to be in place to step outside of the allusion still enjoying the thing. But it's a very different experience creating and sharing Ramda's would say, like if you can be a musician, but not get lost in musician this and not get stuck in the, I visited him and he was saying to me about comedy, he was like, just be humor. He was like, don't do humor. It's like, don't do jokes to an audience. He's talking about one nuts. He's like, just be. It sounds SO Tarik, I actually don't think it's that confusing. There's a difference between fucking somebody and making love and making love is you're being love, right. You know, sex becomes the site very unifying thing as opposed to like cold hard pornographic just like got off somebody and there's a similar thing going on. Where you can just not get lost in the separateness of audience audience and you. That's helpful because I, I haven't taken psychedelics in years by the way, not to say that for any puritanical or moral thing, but I don't. I don't. I'm with you. I don't have as much of an appetite as as you might think, although I would like to do, I do for that sort of cognitive like experiential thing where you know, I know like what you just said about one this. I feel like I have experienced that enough that I now know and have internalized that that is true and is like a true fact of the universe. Right? But it is hard till like stay connected to that idea and the feeling of that and psychedelics do can be like the shortcut to that and mediate awareness of sodas for me just talking about it. That's why we always talk about on the podcast, right. And I think about like starting the pod. Cast reading something or having the guest read something, which is like, it's incredible that we're here at the same time. It's incredible that we're stuck in these bodies. Incredible. They were going to die one day. You don't know what what's going to happen and we don't know how we got just to snap us into that moment because I think that is that frequency is my favorite thing to. Well, the the way that I sort of approached a lot of these thoughts as was like, coming of age was by studying psychology in college and focusing on on the brain link on the softer side of ecology. Didn't appeal to me as much as like learning how the brain worked. And the main thing that I always took away from studying neuro science neuro-psychologist was like, the brain is fully sufficient is is necessary and sufficient for creating your entire reality. You don't need an external stimulus to perceive something your brain can do it. And so there is a disconnect between external reality and your perception of it that become that's very obvious in all of this sort of flaws that there are in the brain in the study, illusions, and then you realize what the brain what's happening in the brain when it's tricking you into thinking that the room is getting snow. Smaller if the walls are built in a certain way, looks like the roof is lower, but it's not it's because if you just fly essentially in your visual processing. Then you can. You can if you get philisophical about it, you realize that and you know the, you know, the condition since thea, right? You've heard of this that where like notes sound like certain colors, various sensory modalities are crossed with others and in your brain, when you see a color, when when a musical note is being played and your brain makes you see it as a color. Exactly the same. Experience in your brain. The same thing is happening as when you actually see that Kohler. So like the presence of the color red is not necessary or sufficient for you to see the color red all that's necessary and sufficient for your brain to be firing in that way and your visual cortex. So that's what makes. I sometimes think about that. I actually don't get freaked out. I'm surprised it doesn't freak me out when we think about all the images we consume and how that affects our inner worlds, and then how the effect on our inner world changes our lives. You think about advertising or you just think about the images that you take in the countless bloody orcs that I've slaughtered video games and you. This is what happens is I get older. I start to go like nobody explained that to me the power of images and what what it feels like to hold onto certain tones and it might not be the best you might not be the place you actually want to be right. I know we love our liberty and we don't want to be told what to do. Right? Especially when I was young, I wanna see some fucked up works and that's great. And I would never. I'm not going to tell my kids not to do that. That's great. That's fine. I did it way more probably maven, well, but now as I get older, I'm like, if I load myself, you know, there's that quote over my my sank that I read. There's these pictures of these saints and beautiful people and things that just inspire me. I noticed that the experience of having those in my inner world changes everything. Yeah, it's hard to be mindful of those things that you know are the most important things all the time. That's what you're saying. Like we all we've both tasted oneness in different ways. We know real. We have it's hard to stay reminded, but that's what's so fun about psychedelics as well is months Goodell everything that I study and do all this work to kind of hold onto even though I never can fully hold onto it when I'm in that place I go, it's all true. It's all true. But you know this, you know brain stuff. There are people that have brain in. I'm not good with hemispheres, but I'm pretty sure it's the left. Hemisphere is the one that wants to think. We're all one like there's something going on in the gray matter that if you have a disruption, there's part of our brain that's like special. Is is in separating things for benefit, and then certain people have brain injuries that sort of mimic the symptoms of enlightenment, right? Where they're like, I heard my brain and I rob l. my friend is one of those people that had a head injury, and he was, he's never done psychedelics. But when we talk about it, he's always like, oh, that's like when I had this brain injury and eating a burrito, and I understood the Breda this people on drugs. I understood what was going on, but. But the one of main, the breed on even like the the energy exchange of eating something and having it go in you like they're all these things going on that when we profoundly become one with them are really, really exciting. And then there are other parts of our brain that go. That's great. But let's keep you alive. Let's keep you warm. Let's keep you fin- depart. The thing that I respect most about religious practices or traditions routines like behavioral laws or guidelines, or whatever that are prescribed by some sort of religion is that at their best. They're designed to sort of keep you in mind of that aspect of reality designed to when you express thanks before you eat. You know, that's what that is. It's what it's meant to do is make you realize what's really going on there when you're eating. It was to stop for a second right in. Judaism, you're supposed to say, blessing after you use the bathroom because what a fucking miraculous thing that is. And if it didn't happen for like less than a day you would die if it didn't work right. More more dire than eating is going about? Yeah. Like probably you can live like if you just couldn't evacuate anything from your body, it might kill you quicker than if you had to go without food or water. Well, I don't know biology, but it's probably close anyway. That's great. But we don't think about that side of it is like, well, just the fact that your body's working on a twenty four hour basis. The art of not thinking about things is almost what makes us. Special is a species. To say the deer are thinking about things, but like we have a way of learning to take things for granted. Yeah, and then building on them and that progress to me, that's because the brain the whole point of the brain is to identify things that are new and once something's not new anymore, the whole the brain all at wants to do is get used to it. So it doesn't have to use up any more of its resources, paying attention to it as the brain is a an acclimating machine. It can get used to any we. We can get used to anything why? And I'm happy to say that I can get here obviously without psychedelics. Is I these bottles of sparkling water? And I was sitting about actually it smoke some pot. I hadn't smoked on a long time Katie Wayne, and I was just looking at the bubbles in the water. And it was like, what? A shame that I have to like, get high to appreciate these bubbles because they were all going. I. And they're popping and it's a fucking miracle, but you're right. Your brain doesn't have the energy. Yeah, it doesn't want to trick it into doing it, but that's also what meditation yet do, and that's what conversation can do. And that's what music do. Totally see. I'm the most connected transcendent feeling moments of my life have been from listening to music, especially in live concerts. Yeah, concert, you can get you. I think that's what people are so drawn to is. It is sort of like the end of avatar. It's this communal experience, and I say this all the time. I don't have that many facts where like a certain beat will get people's heartbeats sinked. So something's happening, physiologically, right, and these having a motion Lii and it can be really beautiful all these different people instead of sitting in traffic and hating each other. We're all there together enjoy thing, which I'm afraid where we're out of time because I had to be somewhere at five, but it's okay. One of the things we're going to talk about was how you don't love all music, but we talk about this every time musician on. We talk about how I don't love music and I don't know what's wrong. I will say this if I'm if I always, I've summarize it this way. If my heart is open, I love all music like, but my heart often is turned inwards trying to look for things to create my own, and I don't really have the room all the time for someone to be like, painting, drawing room. I get get out of here. Distracting or something. But if I'm open, you know that open plays, but he Dan so good crime us. It's beautiful vital space where you realize life is precious and you feel like an alien visiting then all music is great, but it just so rarely in that play. That's really what's going on. No, the only the only time that I don't like music and it's the thing that I feel like I assume you see in other comedians or at least some material from other comedians since York median and work on it all the time is when I feel like I can see through to their intentions and they're not great. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like if I, if I feel like I hear a song and I go, I know exactly what they're trying to do, and I don't really believe that it's really what they want to do care about. That's exactly not learning anything about them or from them. Then that's the only time I really don't like it then. Otherwise, it's just like, I mean, you can see somebody who's like NADA gray Qatar player, not even a great singer by like any sort of objective measure. And if they, I mean they could sing a song that will knock you out. Yeah. I mean, Bob, I mean not a classically great singer, classically great. Seeing all it was a good, great tar player. I'm not like I'm just me. I even like, what do you mean. I just mean like kicking around the clubs and open mics. Developed to people, I suppose to make it a compliment fest, but that's sort of what you're picking. I picked up a new, a level of authenticity. I think the long I've been doing county stand up for eighteen years now. So you start to get to a place where you value that more than anyone can write a good, Joe, right? You can even hire someone to rake rigs, but what be you're transmitting? Yeah. What's behind it? Right. And is it something gullible? Is it something kind of honest and beautiful? So you can see some, it's a cliche that you go to show and some guy kills and the next guy goes up and he's bad. He doesn't do well, you love them, right? And you never stop thinking about. Yeah, and that's a good message for anybody trying to do. It's the, it's the speech that Robin Williams gives to Matt Damon and goodwill hunting. Robin williams. Yeah, you've never been near about. Yeah, if I can't learn about him, you can't learn some book and a fucking book book visor about war. You'd probably say Shakespeare wants different. Once routes, different. But you've never been near one. This is actually a bad line that he makes it. You've never held you best friends head in your lap as he's dying you looking for help. That's not. That's like overwritten, right? It's like a cliche, but he made it work and won an Oscar. That's good actor. I'm not saying it was no. I am saying it wasn't a great line and he laid it. They were so young and whoever ghost wrote it with them. I mean. Pretty common knowledge that somebody helped with goodwill hunting. That's that's not shots fired. I don't know somebody at some point whether it was a table, read write notes. You know what I mean? I'm debated the writing, but somebody at some point was like, because I heard the first draft was like, he remember that speech where he's like now, work for the fucking NSA, four dollars a gallon that the original goodwill hunting was about a spy like a genius from Southie works for the government. He just somebody some point was like. How about you just be a genius himself, and that's interesting, right? And then they changed it. This is this is one of the interesting things that doesn't mean they didn't write it. We're all getting, yeah, nudging you this way and this way, but you can only hand out to Oscars. I never. I don't hear about those things. I haven't. I haven't been in Hollywood until I got cast and crashing season three which premieres I think in February infused, Joey, Ryan may I'd love to find a way to use your music. It is lovely, we didn't. We did. You could use. You could use some songs off of our new album, which came out two months ago called all the things that I did and all the things that I didn't do or. AT ATT from short. Comedy, do. No, you're part. We didn't talk much about music, but I want people to listen to the milk carton kids. I think of the things that I think about most of the time on a daily basis. Music is like tied for like tied for top tied for top three, right? I mean, you have interests. Yeah. Well, first of all, like I have two kids, so there one, I work on the radio show live from here with Chris steely. You have been promoted the season to creative director like almost fulltime job. Well, that just means you Tunas mandolin, hey, creative director tune all eight strings. No, you're perfect for that. Joe. Perfect. That's total behind the scenes gig, which I love and it's the, it's the reason why in the last year and a half, I've had to take a crash course in like the comedy scene and like no, as many of the people that are working as I can and what their material is and like, well, started to have some awareness of like, what's going on. You know, Chris, the show he's wonderful. And will say on the record. So you're not really part of the show yet. Civically like a producer of the on the show and I'm not. I'm not well on Mullany road for SNL. It's like, okay, bump the kid up. So I'm saying on the record, that's well. Here's your Ryan behind. The scenes online from here is John Mullany in the writer's room on right only only very nice of you. The only thing that's a little bit different is the the music of it all like our actual world class virtuosic geniuses. Every single one of those players like from theory, who's the ringleader of it all to everyone in the band and I can't hang. So it would be a totally like basically a non musical involvement. What I'm saying? I mean, except for when it's our own songs like milk carton, kids will go on as a guest and stuff like that. But c k m. c. k. but you as a performer. Perfect tone is a perfect tone for that show. Let's get it out there. Let's set the intention make ventured efficient. Did you guys do that scene thirty stretching on, but this is not even a -sarily for the podcast, but did you board game green. Thanks, man. Yeah, we're still working to. We're actually at home vision board arena. It's funny because we are sort of talking about the things that you hold in your brain affecting your inner world, and that does have consequences in the outer world. I don't know about. I don't know about the stories, people are like, and then a check came in the mail or whatever. I, I don't really care about that stuff. I don't believe in that. It's just it's just a nonstarter for me. It doesn't matter. Right, right. It can't figure it out for some reason. It's not that interesting to me. I use this time being like, is that just like I, I don't know. Yeah, I am with the simulation. Not that interesting in the end. Right? It is maybe it isn't supposed to do something different. That's great. Great, right, right. It's sort of like free will free will is not something that interests me right to do. We have free will question what's the difference? And that's a big lift. Do then what if not, then what else? That's why like when people are like, I don't think anything happens when we die. It's over. I think we have an afterlife. I think there could be an afterlife. I'm sort of like you're all right. I think you're all correct. Beating, I think your ego dies. So what's the difference, right? Whether or not your energy, you're not on why you're not gonna know you might not know. Yeah. I mean, if reincarnations thing here we are and we don't remember. Right. That's what made Buddha interesting was that he did remember the people that. Yeah. And they say hypnotism you can be made to remember past lives and stuff, but there's just one. I don't know. Maybe I maybe it's a little bit of knowledge is the worst thing, but you know, having just a little bit of knowledge about the rate of the brain works. It's like, why would I ever think that being hypnotized and having the sensation of experiencing a past life. Is anything more than who. Nation or an illusion of which we know there are so many which feel so real. I have him no there, and I've never been tempted to do that because I'm aware of my own capacity to manufacture things right. I am interested in. There's a book called many lives movie masters that I've read part of and it was a psychologist, interviewing girl, and they start doing that, I think, and they start fact checking some of it. It starts getting interesting when the person starts knowing things and they couldn't. No. And that's when it gets exciting, but you know what? It doesn't really blow my hair back. You hear the stories where you're like, and they found the person that murdered them. They made amends or whatever it was, and I'm like, I'm with you. Maybe it's thing that comes with age where I'm just like, and then what right. I don't remember. That's for you need inner transformation. That's what I'm saying. Any story, any symbol. Any tradition is just a map of potential for your inner transformation. So we can hear these things. This happens in the course. Of day like someone can convince you of something and then ten minutes later you believe the opposite, right? Because you forgot. Now you're in your car. We can remember that we're all one and then I'll drive to where I'm about to drive and be mad at some ask Neha. Like, that's just what haven't. So we're all working with all except for that guy. Exactly. Except for Steve's cut me off dick. How could we own one? Eight. Fucking so do you know the hardest time you ever laughed? We'll just have to do this again. You'll get so much that we didn't cover. But can you think of the hardest? Well, let me do this speed ram. What's what's great lesson you've learned about songwriting. You can be assured ended up to be great lesson about songwriting. Well, I think it's like an ongoing lesson of that the that. Not in the spirit of the speed round. Is it? No, it speed around. I'll be quick. I guess it's that, I guess one of the lessons that I've continually trying to learn that I know I have to remind myself is that the structure of a song is less important than sort of like following is less important to impose structure on its on, then falling where it seems like this on wants to go sounds a little wishy washy. But like. There are structures which are useful and you should know them, but. It's more it's more important to say what you want to say and do the things you want to do musically than to, you know. You know, then to stay within the structures that you know are that you know are good and useful. You don't have best songs are the ones that it's so obvious when you're writing them that they're gonna break out of that structure that you just don't even think twice about breaking the structure because you like this song, something a little different and, and that's what it is. Always the best ones takes over. You hear so many stories. Like I wrote that so quickly I wrote up gin and fifteen minutes, whatever it is. Yeah, I love that or you can't write it so quickly. If you write a version of course like, okay, now I need another verse and it has to be just the same as the last one, right? Because then all of a sudden you're not in the same space as you were when you came up with the idea for the song trance thing gets you told me about the devils cord? Yeah. What was that? It's the Simpsons thing. No. If you play those three notes together, it's like, and I fortunately know enough theory to tell you what what interval it is. Okay. Yeah, my understanding is that it was like banned from church music for hundreds of years because it was like sounded like the devil. This is something you could go. But it's a, I note to the Simpson. I think it's those two notes. If you play together, you have a piano. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So now or afterwards, you can play those these specifically, the interval, the relationship between those two. So when they played together? Yeah. Okay. EMA Phillips told us that remember yet it was weird. I didn't know Phillips, really, you kind of any Philip. See you seem like someone who like him yet? Yeah, I did. Yeah, I liked him. Now, what what is the hardest time you've left. Or one of them. I like remind people that can be when they're young, right? You can be on drugs. It can be something your kids did. It can be fart. It often most shitting pants falling down. It's there's, I can remember. I don't. There's like three memories that come to mind and I can remember where I was and what was happening. I don't quite remember what set me off laughing, but one time zone mushrooms at my friend's house in high school and God help us if we couldn't. I mean, we could not stop laughing like it hurts. You think you're going to vomit like you just have to your body at someone like stops itself from laughing because it's like trying to shut down and then like once you recover from that physically in your abdominal muscles, then you start laughing again, I can't. I don't know what set us off. Laughing that way. Mushroom giggles, good empty. It was a time a couple years ago. That also is very stupid thing, and I feel a little out about it because the comment was a little bit mean-spirited actually, but we are all on the on the tour bus in Toronto and a day off and a friend of ours was in Toronto. Also he's an actor and he was filming show, and he. On the bus, like there's twelve bunks and bunch of tourists. There's a bunch of bedding and like everybody's suitcases there and everyone's like in their predominance, and he. We were high. Now that I recall. I like talking about drugs a lot. And I also like you feel somehow like I should say I was never a drug. I almost never never smoked pot anymore. They used to a lot and definitely I haven't psychedelics in a long time, but it was very meaningful anyway. He said, just sort of in a lull in the conversation he goes. So you guys sleep on this bus. For some reason, all seven of us just bus it up laughing and could not stop like we're in our, it's one in the morning, pajamas and slippers. Our beds or like right there. We've been living on this bus for a month at this point and just like we're done some Allen some alley, some sides. You could never sleep anywhere else nearby. And he goes sleep on this. Two. That set us off. We could not. It's amazing. Well, I love it and we're both not nicotine people. That's the other thing you were going to say, remember Pence, right? Both you smoked and it never get addictiveness cigarettes didn't take. Okay. I do have to go. What a delight. Thank you. Good. Great. He'll San, it's fine. Yeah. Could go longer you go longer. I know this would have been a Val always sees me. She's like, your podcast is not two hours. I know you think it is. It's not look at the number. Yeah. No, I know wouldn't when I saw it come through for thirty four thirty. I was like, oh, do short. When this time I was like, that's a full. It's not anymore. It's not. And I apologize actually. You know what I thought what I really thought was he must be trying to keep them to two hours because like longer than that is is is kind of absurd. I did have. There was a breastfeeding class that we're supposed to go to. Wanted to ask you about your baby. Baby kids. Let's do it as I get ready to leave. I just want to ask you one thing about the podcast, but like are you is this your kid is about to be born with any day now? Yeah, that's why my phone is your. I never like both times. It was the most magical, the birth? No. The days bleeding up to the birth like life has come to a grinding halt. There's nothing on the calendar though you're doing this, but like judgment. No, I know we're buying you're at Largo last night which by the way it would have been there, but I was lying home from Nashville at nine pm. That's we, we're nesting. So are nesting. I love for me both times. There was an feeling to the air, like the atmosphere. I sleep in bed with a woman housing, a newborn, Joe, it changes everything. He does amazing. I, it's like being snowed in you walk down the sidewalk with field different, everything different does everything has more meaning already. All that. All that stuff. Like guy woman's mom, dad, I like it. No, yeah, I'm tripping out on it and thrill and everything. I do like I've been getting out like I have to finish. I'm trying to finish the book before the baby's born. So sort of like fish. Like, I don't mind if you're weekly. But I'm like getting up because I have more purpose. I get up at like six Yeming too. Right. For four years before sometime before value away. And that's it's engine. Yeah, not just a cold. Dad, man masking go to support. It's like I have this thing happen yet. One of the president and is available as I can do it. Everything's different. There's like a wait to everything I remember in those days leading up to. Yeah, that's a good lyric. Thank you. Have grown in the course of the five Cavill let me write it down. My guy. Oh my God. All right. Would you say keep it crispy, keeping crispy. Thank you. Crispy crispy.

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EP 39 - Inside the Diets of Troy Brown and Jasmine Perks

The Persistence Factor

35:30 min | 1 year ago

EP 39 - Inside the Diets of Troy Brown and Jasmine Perks

"I just eat which makes makes me happy. And ultimately, that's what matters to me. The most. Good day. What is going on? Welcome to the teeth Pete at aka the persistence factor. My name is Troy Brown full the professional athletes in two sports turned professional development transformation. Coach helping people live on. I'm precedent it life H Nebi. Wait, I bring to you real life. Inspirational stories to ready help you stay on the road to success and to stay consistently inspired. I want these stories to help you develop your own mental toughness, which is so well needed in today's demanding times to be quite honest. My wish for you is that these stories will allow you to develop your own persistence back to muscle onto ongoing. No matter what I really wanna thank you personally for spending time to make today. It really means so much to me if you get a moment any point, please, please, please subscribing labor review. And right the show. Now, let's get. Out there. Take massive action. Get uncomfortable and develop your own persistence factor muscle was up governor. How are you doing? It. Is that time again, it is podcast time. And what did we do today? We did something a little different as always keep you on your toes. I think that should be the white life is is to always go at your come on a try some different things come from a different angle. You know, I'm million but today Abreu on the beautiful my lady jasmine perks. We brought her on today, and we just were just having a general compensation as a couple like would just talking about some of the things that have really helped us from a health standpoint. And what we do together. Just so you kind of get an idea of how it works all ran. But also fingers crossed the you could maybe start implementing these behaviors into your life because the way we both feel is absolutely phenomenal. We want you to fill the exactly the same way. So I'm going to say. I'm going do it again as always grab a Cup, but see all your favorite beverage. Check it out. Listen to Mr Brown and MRs pucks of the pigs life on the persistence factor tight loss notes. And then as I always say lost, my mental used to say, what did you learn and what you gonna do about it. So make sure you take some action. Once you've listened to the podcast and don't forget if you have any time journey episode or go to itchy and right? The persistence factor, a beautiful lovely gorgeous review with a rating and Jasmina, and they'll ruby would so much. Appreciate it right ruby. Why ruby enjoy the episode? I'll see you back on the other side. She's ignoring me. Commisson mine is one of the youth doozer wisdom. Why does man? You telling me to calm down because this is a full attempt recall in this the first attempt went so well it was pathway, and guess what happened yours truly didn't hit record excited rookie mistakes. Goodness me. Okay. So what we're gonna do today? This is going to be a show episode. But a lot of people have been asking jasmine, I wore our lifestyle is like like, how do we eat? What do we do in regards to stress management? What do we drink? Do. We drink alcohol. Do we ate pizza three burgers and fries? Dewey KFC. We'll ever is. Do we normal life? Not I will not these physique, athletes and ons to that question is we live very balanced happy life. But one of the biggest things I seem to be getting on social media. Jasmine is a of people have been asking me about how have you got all this energy? Like, how do you jasmine have all this energy urine your forties Jasmine's enough thirties? How are you live in this way? Like are you doing? So we fought with doing episode, and it kind of makes sense. So as I always say if you got pen and paper tight, lots of notes because I think we're going to share some ideas with you that could potentially make you feel better up. I think the biggest thing that we want to give you this energy and by Talia that we both experience on a daily basis. I just want everyone feeling as though they wake up in the morning and feeding good fitting optimal feeling shop and having that mental focusing clarity that we all an each and every one of us is so jasmine. You don't eight to two during the day every single day. And I always I always thought to myself like why does she what does she do that? And every time you ate your your eat, something green. You always eating vegetables one of the things that you do at night, which is so funny is you we add this huge ball when you a big salad out of it every single night. And then on top of that, you see pretty well, you always take your vitamins every single day was the other thing that I notice that you do you also eat a lot more carbs at night too. But on cobbs bad on. I is that what we're hearing. Why why are you eating cogs at night because everyone seems to think not you store carbohydrates in your body overnight to that? That's what people will say, right. I know that's not true. But total the listeners about this about Jasmine's approach because her behaviors. It's interesting hub behaviors that she's been doing since we've been together for the last three years has honestly everything that she does is rubbed off for me. So if you're a man, and your significant other has some phenomenal healthy habits, then I would encourage you is a good idea to start implementing and taken on her behaviors because they know something right? So I've literally. I'm doing Jasmine's protocol right now and the protocol. Yes, we do is intimated fostering that works very very well for us amount of work for you. But less share some ideas. Let's give him some Joe's of wisdom. What was the exact question? The question a Moscow. You is like what do you do? Like what why do you have this approach? Why do you use this approach, and why does it work? So well for you because it seems to fit perfectly into your lifestyle and your busy. You got a lot of things on the go. Right. So this could definitely relate to men and women. Yeah. I'm first of all I hope we didn't lose any listeners because when we say things like, balanced, right? A lot of people say they want a balanced lifestyle. But the things to have a balanced lifestyle are usually like the boring stuff. Right. The things that we all have read heard seen time and time and time again, and you know, for me, I mean when we first started dating a couple of years ago. Yup. I was working in a government position. So my life. So it was very very different. You've kind of seen me involve in my eating and training and things like that. No switching from that government position nine to five to the entrepreneur world where I could make my own schedule. And I and you went through this with bodybuilding. I'm you went through a very exploratory transitional phase reenter figure out like what feels good for you. Now, you know on figuring out what your body likes just because your schedules are different and things like that. So for me, I mean, I, you know, to be honest. It was like an effortless kind of thing when you spend a lot of time like getting to know yourself, you know, physically like your body, and you kind of like your mindset amazing thing starts to happen. You get you have more choices. I and you respond more to life in general, like, it's not just you know, when people talk about being mindful of your body being in tuned with your body, those sorts of things. Mindful. That's does used so much in the marketplace. I think it's being presence in being being able to respond rather than to react to either. External variables as things outside of your control. But also your own habitual types of habits and things like that. Like, you know, kind of like, oh, this is just how I am with you. Choose to believe that in it's ingrained in not just your body, but your mind, and that's a, you know, then that's youth thinking, hey, this is the way that I am. But if you become more in tuned with and listening to what's going on in the internal chatter. You know, the the power of this unconscious. You know, there's a lot of freedom that comes with that that self awareness, self discovery is massively powerful. But we think OSH takes too much time. It's just so much effort. It's not exciting, blah, blah, blah. Just tell me what to do. Give me the fastest route possible and things like that. It is. It's not exciting. It's not the highlight reel. Right. We all want to talk about the new fattest thing because we like immediate gratification. It's you know, we we are addicted to diet hopping. We are addicted to dieting we are dictated to dictate to dining type behaviors, you know, I it's just it's almost becoming part of like this a society, you know. So I if feels like what used to be like, the health and fitness industry is now the dieting industry, I really want the assistance. The colts community. Yeah. On all of them to be healthy. I want absolutely despite Tyler so. Yep. You what you do every day is very co festival. But I really think that a lot of women that are listening and the men if they were to implement some of these foundational principles that you do take they to give phenomenal results. I think they're gonna fall in love with the way they fill. Yeah. For me. Like, I was you know, I was busy on my feet when I was at my nine to five and then when entrepreneurial came there was a lot of sitting Italian city tell me about it and naturally on because of super excited super driven was wearing many different hats at that time meeting. Lots of new responsibilities taking care of people in a sense. I kind of feel like, you know, a new mom when she just forget completely forgets to like. Probably brush your hair verse. She she's got like only one I with mascara on. I literally it was out of a new routes arrows out of my ogres you into a new routine. I was off the about. Yeah. I if figure out what felt good for me on and just naturally, I didn't eat. It wasn't like wasn't doing as a tactical approach to like lose weight or anything like that. I just noticed my hunger levels were completely different. And I was able to be in tune with that because I pay attention. And I've spent years getting to know my body, how it responds in many, many different ways. And so I just naturally stopped eating and I would later on the day. And he thought I was nuts. But this is when you were still going to be competing, and you're putting on weight. And so your job was to make sure that you didn't forget to eat because you have so much food to consume in one day. Right. Whereas me, I wasn't focused on any of that kind of stuff. I just ate what. Eight when I wanted to on so yeah, I mean for is to call intermittent fasting. That's how people are going to know what our lifestyles like. But literally if you ask anybody who's done intermittent fasting as a lifestyle, they will probably tell you they've naturally gravitated towards that. Because it's easy for them. It's requires less effort, and those sorts of things that's why people say pick the diet, you can die. It also means like not just being a clerk deficit diet is like what you're actually eating. What does your nutrition? Look like, I'm yeah. Like, what could you see yourself, you know, possibly doing long-term like for me, I stopped eating around like I pushed it till ten and eleven and then twelve and then one, you know, and I we start eating around two o'clock is when we break our fast, but I've been able to push my fast till like five or six and do you know out twenty hours easy? Yeah. But that's just because I've gotten used to this and stations of what? Feeling hungry is like on being okay to feel that and knowing like, it'll be you know, you'll kind of get over that little hunger curve. And then he just kinda is kinda mental tests that you Pinal yourself, isn't that kind of? A little bit of a mental toughness. Yeah. So of reality check with yourself. Yeah. And of course, you know, this was a good decision for me. I made them very mindful choice on do I recommend it for everybody. Absolutely not. I mean, intermittent fasting can be used as a tool or a strategy leave used it in the past when we've flown because I know personally when I fly a long period of time my digestion is off. I don't feel good at all and putting more food in my body actually makes me feel worse. So I've used it as a tool for that. Because I don't want to feel like crap on a flight or those sorts of things aren't point. You know, a lot of other people use it for religious reasons. I do not have is that this would be an approach for somebody who's dealing with a log of like bench tight dealing sorry. Excuse me bench type eating habits on people who have disordered eating or an eating disorder. I'm it can really it. Can perpetuate issue, and I have mandatory Honey so have men and women have maybe some type of eating issue with binge eating as an example brain wouldn't suggest doing some type of intimating, fostering, if they have that type of issue, correct? Choi Brown here. Just taking a quick mom. It just to see if you are enjoying this episode. And if you are fantastic Oso to let you know what we are doing over apex physiques. Now, you're probably thinking what is a PECS physiques. Well, a PECS possess is the premium online coaching. We specialize in nutrition counseling high in training program supplementation protocols, and most of always specialize in mindset counseling to get you on the FOX track to success. So that way you can get some results because his reality. Anyone colludes why anybody can build muscle, but the key is people want pulmonary results. And this is what I picks disease comes into it. So send us a message go to our website. If you are looking for maybe possibly having a consultation with us, we do this absolutely free at no charge. We do a fifteen minute consultation over the phone all via Skype, and what we will discuss IVA myself or jasmine pugs we will discuss with you. What your goes all? What's holding you back and all your next steps in terms of how can we get you on a false track to success? So that way you can start San results a tight full advantage of this free. Fifteen minute consultation is not gonna cost you a dime. Anyway, that's it for me. I want to get back to this episode. Take care yourself on a hope fingers crossed that you're enjoying every single mama this episode. Remember, take notes take calc- back on the other side. Editing. To is like, you know, if it's episode is like you're just binge eating like one time a week. That's one thing. But when it's an, you know, if you find yourself binge eating, you know, three four five six more frequently it's more of a frequent behavior. It's almost like a feels like a norm to you. Then I would suggest perhaps going and doing some more self discovery as to why that's perhaps happening. What's the trigger behind? There are seeking guidance on. I would hate to, you know, give ill-advice on on, you know, something like this. And then somebody who was you know, struggling, you know, went ahead and did this and just it made things worse. So I always, you know, say. Take what we say investigate it for yourself and see if it's right for you is say that almost every single, you know. You know? Person that you look up to and, you know, learning to take what feels right for you and leave the rest, you don't have to take everything quite well quite. Whoa, quite. Yeah. So I mean intermittent fasting was super easy for me. I literally took what I was doing from like my on nine to five, and I just pushed it so I naturally naturally gravitated to it. Yeah. So the second part of my fasting is I car backload, I say car backload because that's what people have probably heard in the the fitness industry for the people that don't know what called backloading means. Can you explain the easiest most implicit you know, way to explain it is just having your carbs later on in the day. So for me, I have about three meals a day on my last one is a big car carbon. But I really liked that too because I trained fast it also don't tell me you he calls before bed. Jasmine parks. It's probably my favorite meal. So. I've heard and some people believe this that eating clubs at night. We'll make you still plenty fast. I correct. I always say, it's the depend factor. But you know, what people should not fear any food groups. I think people I would I would suggest is to have a healthy relationship with all all food groups because if you're looking at crows. Yeah, I mean, there's so many things I could come into play here. Why people aren't losing weight that I don't even want to get into it? And I think is just like one of those rabbit holes that just if you start, and it just doesn't stop on as to why people aren't losing weight. I think most people nowadays have hopefully by now, you know, the fitness industry is in somewhat regards doing, you know, their diligence in really educating people as to what could be a plausible explanation as to why they're not losing weight more often than not why people aren't losing weight is just very very basic. They're just not in a clerk deficit period and of. Story. I I also am a firm believer though, on the other holistic side that, you know, people don't believe in some way, shape or form that they can lose the way they feel deserving of the way there's some other stuff there were way can be used as a as a comfort as a protective mechanism. There's a lot of other underlying reasons why people can't lose weight in. It's not just because. Oh, you're it could be either this it could be simply just on and Clark deficit. The other thing is I not being an Clark deficit because there's some other hindering behaviors or are there. Some mindset blockages as to you know, why the sabotaging is happening and things like that. So, you know, me I try I always have it come in from every angle my perspective. But in a general sense, it's a the deficit sought their summit Rudy, come to my mind. Just now. Yes, I know. Now, you've seen me be two hundred fifty five pound gap to be this two hundred pound man. Right. Yeah. Explained to the men. Then the shift in my energy, my attitude, just my general persona as a man tell them the ship them what you've seen because I've been preaching about is the loss four or five months about this wellness invite tally have bought I want all the meant to experience it, and I want them to him me, false repetitions mobile skills. They keep hearing it finding they might take on those actions in those beliefs spa you've seen the shift tell everybody like what the difference is. Because a lot of men will probably relate to when I was trying to fifty five pounds. And maybe some of the might not relate to how I'm feeling now maybe used seen it from buds view, why do every single day and how it can help. These men listening. Yeah. I mean, you definitely were curious about how why I ate the way. I did. In. Why felt the way that I felt because I'm I'm the one that's always wants to go on hikes now walks because that's why I ask you was off jasmine nutrition is how do you feel all you the fog, all you tired? She said, no, I feel absolutely phenomenal. I'm clear, I feel coherent. I'm shop, mentally those things. I find extremely attractive story on that sort of interrupted apologize. That's okay. And you'll problem. Yeah. Because really at the end of the day when we're trying to improve something in our body. Right. It's for that feeling. It's that intrinsic feeling of like, you know, you feel confident you feel good you, you you have this energy in because the aesthetics only lasts along you want you want the effects to that that rewarding feeling to last as long as possible on. So. Yeah, you got really curious as to what I was doing and use all that I end this isn't like any gimmick. This is just me eating the foods that I love I'm very habitual person to on smoothies every morning. I one point I used to do what meal and egg whites like the traditional stuff, but you know, after a while like this. I don't wanna be like that. So you'll I mill is at two o'clock and you'll having a smoothies that correct? Yeah. And I mean, the intermittent fasting Merle will say you shouldn't have fructose. You shouldn't break your fos fiber that at at at at I, but that's the fancy term debt at at at at about. Data. But here's the other thing too is I'm not trying to lose weight. I'm not using intermittent fasting as a fat loss protocol a lot of people use intermittent fasting. Also with ketogenic style diets are I just eat the way that I do because it makes me feel good. I don't have digestive issues. I don't as for as far as I know. I don't have anything to worry about in that sense. I just eat which makes makes me happy. And ultimately, that's what matters to me the most on. So I have fruit. I have fiber. I have fat. I Don I have carbs as my last meal. I next meal is usually something super fibrous like a like a salad that most people would think would feed a family of four. Through team lots of good fat. And then my last meal is protein and carbs. And if I want I have fat, and if that happened, Mike carbs tend to be, you know, chocolate chips, whatever it is Leaving Las mine to classes of wine each two glasses of red. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, this has been my pattern for for so long, you know, intermittent fasting was just another tool to to add onto this lifestyle. But for you when you started adding like is he wasn't you guys? He was not eating any vegetables like because he had to eat so much food that he's like I need the room for the cars of the protein. Forget the fiber. And he was very lethargic all the time like to get to get him to go for long, walks or hikes, cause I'm super adventurous. And I love that kind of stuff. I love daily movement. I love being outside in the sign. I'm it was always a struggle for him or everything we had to do follow it up with a quick nap. Everything even going to the grocery store. Things like that. Like, also like his food rules. He had in his like he had to eat certain times. And you gotta remember his style of eating his patterns were very highly reinforced because it made him super successful as an athlete while in soccer. But also in bodybuilding, so why would he do anything different? But as his desirous changed as goals changed. He decided not to compete on you, and also you weren't doing personal training like in person personal training. You became a lovely chair surfer like me. All online, and you also notice a change in your in your your hunger levels. So you start paying attention to your hunger. Cues because you knew I don't need to force feed because you are on a timer. You weren't paying attention to what was going on terms of am I hungry my not hungry because it didn't matter you just had to eat when you were bodybuilding. So you start paying attention to that. And then you do the same kind of progressive thing. Were naturally you start pushing till ten to eleven toll twelve and. Then you just started picking up on the smoothies, and then my lunches, and then my dinners, and then you were just noticing home. It was very easy to for you to gravitate towards what I was doing because you know, modern washer the environment. But like I make a lot of the meals you make a lot of the meals more than I do now, which is frigging that's the other benefit energy. That's why. But also, they're going you your unite almost exactly the same. And so now, it's like, I'm not the one preparing all the food. You're doing it. You do actually I would say good seventy five percent of it. You'll prepare it like, you know, I'll do maybe all the protein for the week and things like that. But you'll prepare him organize and everything like that. Which is a bonus for me to. But even like for you, you know, the day to day stuff like. You were when you were two hundred and fifty pounds. You're so used to putting on your shoes you having to sit down because you'll Bill you'd be totally gassed. It was like a chore. So as you're losing the weight, and you started feeling lighter, and you had more, mobility, and agility, and your vibrance and your wellness all of this kind of stuff came back to you. You still had those natural tendencies from you know, being that bodybuilders. So deeply ingrained in you stillness sometimes. Yeah, I had room. Yeah. And some of your food rules are still there too. But you're just working through it right now. I think there was one time in the summer. I stalked you and I'm like pay we're going with your shoes. And you're like I gotta go put him on. I said, Honey, I'm like, you're not tutors fifty pounds anymore. Like, you can just you can bend down and put them on no problem, and we kinda laughed about it. Because you had to be like. Oh, yeah. Like. Different body, which was really it was really kind of very interesting to watch you Morphing transform. Honestly, abe. Oh, I just wanted. These men that listen to follow some of my stuff is to on on his sounds coning cliches just to unleash that in athlete, man. Like, his an example. So I haven't kicked to suckle bowl football in twenty two years because of this energy, I have this by tallied. I have. And if you hit a passionate voice, I'm telling you that right now, I paid my first game this Sunday. And it was just like rolling back. The is was I notice mobile I lost a love of speed. But I just you're so sore today. So so I almost taken aback to me, by the way, someone's hitting me or someone's hit me too close to my knowledge don't was bands, Ona's big trucks. Don't truck. Or f f one full ease writing. I think it's one fifty s f one fifty s. Hopefully, my my sponsor us one day who knows well if you call them, not if you call them die. I don't think they're going to sponsor. But I I'm tired of Ryan Canada pot. Yeah. Very very Sopa. Hey, you know, what forty two years of age? I haven't played all kickable since I was eighteen years of age and just to get back playing again with such a quick spirits, and there's a lot of men listening that maybe have given up their passion for American football Canadian football soccer for that. And if you're if you're in England, football, whatever it is if you've forgotten about it all you've put it or swept under the carpet. And you feel about your time is done because you're in your full. I'm here to tell you right now man twenty two years, I'm not kicking a bowl going back loss yesterday. Clang again was like unbelievable. What was like gassed? Absolutely. Was my lungs hanging out my chest. Yes. But I'm going back next week. Yeah. That was so awesome. See you get plateful again. As as outs, we get to were so tight that includes me too. Rub off nouns. It'd be more playful wonderful bring it love, everything you all your environment. Is that what you want to add? I think that's all that Bubba. I think that was the question that you you had for me. I'm not sure if you have anything else well Jews of wisdom to end with some Joe's of Jasmine's wisdom. So do you have any loss? Minute thoughts. Anything on your mind that could help someone listening. I don't know. I'm a very into persons. Go the got. Are we keeping it nutrition? You want anything? Oh, anything. Oh my gosh. Trae, okay, Perko time give you time to relax some ponder over. What's being said? So my Jews of wisdom is always take each day. I've been saying over and over again in my head incantations and formation. I've been saying this one particular alpha male, especially when doing these bloody coach showers, but they suck. I'm going to say out loud. They suck the failing that you have often was outweighs the sucky nece. So I've been saying go under the code is calm. This of mind is one of the beautiful. Joe's a wisdom by say this phrase, more often this three sentences. It goes like this self control strength, right? Tho- is moss. Jerry com. This is power self control was shrimp, right though is mastery com. This power if you keep saying that yourself all over and over again. Repetition right over and over again, you'll going to start to become not compass and everybody wants to be on a compass. And so I am naturally a very reactive type of person, but I'm making a conscious effort to respond more instead of reacting so just say those free sentences Ofra today if you're stressed out at work self control, shrimp, right though is mastery com. This is power and anyone added a little bit more say you hot pace be still jasmine jazz. Bow of a to you. What's your Joe's of wisdom? I feel like you're a poet now. I just had to say that is that was what was on my mind. So I just say, what's on my mind intuition. Okay. Well, you know, what since it's the winter months in Canada. And I know from our clients in our own personal experiences at the winter can feel kind of blah may feel stock seems like in the summertime we things are a little bit better for everybody is if you're in your journey of whatever it is for you. You know, maybe you're trying to transform your body or you're trying to overcome an emotional and mental hurdle. I would honestly tell you. You don't have to feel stock. There's this wonderful world of social media that is opened up so many opportunities for people to communicate to reach out and ask for help. And you know, maybe maybe it's simply asking that girl that you saw a transformation or, you know, maybe it's finding yourself a support group on Facebook. Or maybe there is somebody. You're just dying to work with you know, always ask for help. You don't have to you don't have to be stuck, you know, staying stuck as choice, but you also have the choice to reach out and ask for help. Trust me coming from a very stubborn proud independent Dublin independent person on you know, I I like to work hard. I expect a lot for myself and things like that. But. Even I need to ask for help. Because sometimes like pushing and no feeling stressed out burnt out or even disconnected or any of those sorts of things what I really need is somebody to to help me. Sometimes we need those outside is to be like, hey, you know, why like to empathize with you? And be like a completely understand. Why you're super frustrated I would be too. And I know sometimes when we're in it in that kind of, you know, thinking it'd be it can be super hard to see options in choices for selves when we feel like we've done everything or don't know why we're stuck or what's the next best choice for me. Are what are my options? You know, sometimes having those outside is can really help us give you know, a sounding board a direction ask the right Bill. Ask you the right question that will stimulate, you know, a whole new change for you or a different perspective. So my advice is never feel stuck feelings being. Tuck as an is a is a choice, and when you can ask for help, whatever it is that you really want to see change for yourself. Whether that's something to do with your body, your lifestyle, taking a risk, whatever it is. My is in. I'm so proud of you. I love you too. Big. Hey, everybody. I just wanted to say first of all thank you so much for listening. And if this content is delivering value to you, please please please head over to I tunes of right? And reviewed the show. The Pacific fact took because you know, what this is what hell's field a pa- systems back to humidity. And that is what is all about right building a committee as big as we possibly can to deliver as much value as possible, and it's your rights in and review that it's really going to help that Kohl's don't forget to subscribe old. 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FAQ's: The Ordinary Pt.1

Birthday Skin

37:39 min | 1 year ago

FAQ's: The Ordinary Pt.1

"Hello and welcome back to you. You Bet they skin I am Charlie and amy and we are joined by grace stay editor at beauty allowed by. Thanks is to have me back again. Oh He's been well. Time has been a long time. You've been Poli Avenue. Blake had STREP for. Oh my God. Oh Love Sup- right but also abroad to go with it so I would stress that we online is hosted bread as well. No I like bread like one at you. Don't eat break but I want to have a bake and boy and people until somewhat MBA. You have to have like that really cheap white bread. Yeah I remember thinking that was weird when people would have toast. I like a toast sandwich. No monster unless his cheese inside but yet bacon in the middle of toast is where I agree here. You want bread but yeah I like a proper seeded loafers WanNa feel like a seeded. Loaf with soup is amazing. And I'm so sorry that you couldn't obviously Delo for the soup. Honestly all I miss with pastor now God. Pasta busters lie no. I broke day three and had pasta. Oma Golaghat Philip postured on throat. Quite smooth was a cook. It slightly like one minute. It's the same. Yeah Oh yea just be dead mushy I remember when I got my I got my tongue when I was quite young but my grandparents were really disgusted assimilation would be and a hat. I didn't WanNa tell them about trying to hide as much sukur by score on to the House every night made Spaghetti Bowl and as oh talked a hats gummer Plymouth. Es and she literally blended. But I looked dead in the ice on the whole time on my God. Disappointed Ramona's sorry and then grun dot like still like if he's still call the Montenegrin. It was about time he did not know that you had done. The whole an exit being nimble. No no I can't feel it but like if you can can't go. Oh ooh boy. I used to like playing with it who I actually saw it while we're talking about cobbs a saw a keep meeting today and it was ause Literally just text said there's A. There's a cute tiny duck in my belly asking to be Fed bread and I was like that is me just give meals in my belly. I thought it was Thought you were going to go along as if you talk. Duck flavored something. That's not funny. This insensitive is in life now from the Chinese Kimble. No I say no I am not vegetarian. Smaller the judge. Oh my God. Today I accidentally eight sausage had also Nice Sich well at work. We had a guy who made some like Thanksgiving food and it was a sweet potato with cheese. That's all said didn't tell me. That was flying around. In that horrendous. I is this lawsuit now and it was like. Yeah yeah it was like individuals like the enemy is care news like Oh sorry you they have to lower the tone sausage and maybe we should stop talking about small dogs in bellies and sausages and knows where else and not to talk about the burning question. Shen that is well. She's not a question is Julian. How many times do you think you've been asked questions about the ordinary? I mean I got them last night. I woke up in the morning and I had like I literally get them all the time whenever I add yet whenever I liked doing these polls on instagram stories. From like Oh ask Nanna thinks when a train for two hours ninety percent of it is about. The order is super confusing. Isn't it one hundred percent. Yeah because I feel like crying from wrong buffalo. They were one of the first companies that came out and did like raw ingredients at the nice and OUTTA calling for. Yeah now it's like you know just like well store and falling stuff. I had never seen any of them. Ingredients sold sold solely on the road before the ordinary near now. Everyone is doing it. But it's like they fill out there. The main really clever because they basically broke down. What's in every other Sierra Mountains and has been for years and just made a bit more obvious what was in there? It's just a really smart move. Yeah I think I think that a lot of The ordinary is one for complete clarity on what year in which is obviously really important or we find really important now but to think there's something to be said about making a little bit confused on purpose. Yeah because it kind of makes you trust them a little bit more. Feel like there's definitely more of like a we know what we're doing. You need to listen to us. He needs to trust us. And this is what you need species Matt as for X. Y.. And said reasons but I think people actually everytime I had a question and not really know the answer or if it's a product that I've not needed to use for whatever reason if you just go on the website they do have a full breakdown sound you can literally put your skin type and it will give you your ideal products and that's actually how. Before birthday skin it started. I went and had to look at. Why would buy if it? It was 'cause I remember. It was actually really hard to get wasn't yeah And then of the site based in the store in common garden that we went to but I was a bit like all year. We'll have a look nugget that but I still think people because you can buy on the website you can buy unplaced as like you. You guys so secondary websites now that like Yashin websites as long as Ella. Yeah so it is one of those things where it's like. Oh I WANNA know how to use it but what the hell is up like can't even pronounce it and it is quite intimidation. Tame one name is like eight million syllables on Ganea. An obviously more often than not with skin you WANNA be really protective about A. Don't need to be putting something on. That sounds it could be really offensive like you know. I don't want to try scary. That's that's no. I completely agree so we are going to do this episode in two parts us. Because we've been sent quite a lot of questions in and we're aware that You might not want us into a whole forty minute episode of questions that you don't need the answers to so it's but in st pause we'll chat a little bit bow. What's going to be in each episode but part one will be full of questions all about what can and can't be? He's together building routines percentages of products. And what us when starting out Essentials whether they are rescued us more expensive products and our personal snow faves so shall be with that. Let's let's give question one. which is what can't eased together? 'cause it's a big one. Yeah Fila us a big one on one that people might not feel needs address in because they might not think about it. Yeah like I didn't before no I didn't think. Oh maybe that can't be used with stop yet. I remember when I first side like getting into skincare and I was like okay retinol vitamin C folic. Acid I need elite things and need all my face at one time uh-huh and I look back and like Oh my goal was to do. No wonder my happy didn't go away. Layering on yeah. Acids could make it so so much worse. Oh yeah every skins what were we. We looked at triple cleansing in the last episode. Didn't weigh in. My God is just silly that he put in so much face as need literally take him down to his bare that not doing it any good so I mean. There's an obvious one for me. I would like to dive into with this question but grace do you want to lead on this one. I feel like you will know a lot more about each product because you will rise about them. This is one of the questions I asked a lot. Yup My general consensus is just to say. Don't mix anything really especially active ingredient so rational acids acids and vitamin C. Like those free people kind of argue that you can use them and there are ways you can use them but betsy is so unstable unstable. I just wouldn't recommend mixing with anything. So my general rule is to say you've got one hundred ingredient it super active. It's going to amazing things. Just let it do that thing and then you can do the next ingredient the next day. Yes I think is something that we've always said people as well if people like. Oh what see what is new routine Blah Blah and. I'm like if I actually put down my routine on a Monday. Say and then I did my cheese day it would be completely ad and so all of these products will be lined up so I always just go for the general own. Yeah my favorite exfoliating out of the five hundred run in between each week But there's there's definitely something to be said in just letting approach look be itself and make sure it does its job as it should be Completely agree just don't mix and lie. I always find if a poor retinal on. It's literally face wash and then I'll missed Interna just to kind of a bit extra hydration back in and then it's done but yeah so could you use a retinal in the nighttime than bitsy the next next morning or is that still. Yeah looked at how I would best recommend it because people ready love using these two ingredients and they work well together when they used separately. Yes it's just kind of a case of not wearing them immediately on top of each other. But Yeah I would say retinal nighttime fits Mris Mornin dos without today. She was like Kaduna. Isn't as I think so so I can double check with you tonight. I think so but make sure you wear a spear dot K.. Thing and I always find that the vitamin CS really good fit. Ah By in a free radicals as well so that should always be a morning products. Yeah I mean I. I don't think I've used it or seen in a nighttime. No that's not really a need to use at night. I tomorrow with rats in all analyses. You KINDA WANNA use nights Hayek because of the increased. Vx Beijing gathering in the Circadian Rhythms. We found out. Do you remember. No you'll takes me a question on like we said this two weeks ago on the listen to the podcast. Well there's your body cookies your circadian rhythm and your body will know when it's eleven pm say and between the hours of eleven pm and twelve twelve PM and midnight. That's when whether you're asleep while you're awake your body starts to renew cells. So is all everybody not just us. Face Bobby see faces include it so oh you should always be using products that sit well with the circadian rhythm of regeneration overnight and oversee retinal is helping your skin tweet iskin cells to regenerate anyway so yeah. What's I'm sure you've already got it written down I think on well is you should always read the package in? Always find out exactly what it said on there because they won't be able to miss anything I if there's anything super important but on the vitamin C. Z.. Package in it specifically says do not use with Nice ride or a e k One setia account remember what that yeah I remember a research two and the e was like a very rare ingredient anyway. both the nice and that really scared me because I was a bit like. Oh God I really liked birth. These botox and I'd like to use a nice ride in the morning. Because I like the way it makes my skin feel also I don't want to mix it with red also a hell one can use this and I don't know if you've got this down but I found out that it's not that it will have a reaction is just that they cancel one another out. Yes you're not getting the benefit of either point uh-huh yeah and it's the same. I think with certain assets if you lay them because they're different you hungry because is that can be like different and Ph levels within us. It's they can sometimes bring each vertical down low ever said they kind of just make themselves redundant yeah saved his waist. uh-huh yeah So again it's just making sure that one you eat impact into he just using one product time and not layer in in the sense so that kind of thing. That was my big one because I know that research before but with any of this that you would foundation B.'s together and no I really just save. Don't thing and the only one that I would say is really good today as highly gossage not in that on before active ingredient helps the active ingredient to penetrate skin. Yeah it for and can you just give us a quick summary of an ingredient so something that is like causing a reaction or like really like look at me like active so it actually doing some very easily. It's not like a Ruckus Lober slow-burn yes. Yeah so you know. I've always found that you know when you have a let's say moisturizer this highly highly roenick acid in it. The active ingredient in that moisturizer is the Higher Lanka said. So it's the one thing that's actually the thing that's doing. The action see can have like when we did the Glycerin episode that wouldn't be being active ingredient. Because it's not it's not the one thing that's actually hell. Yeah that is really hard to describe sauce. Guys you're so inspiring buttering the others thought people might want I. Already of the ordinary products are act the audience in there on their own okay. I can't think of anything of light and a heavy into more like oils and stuff being active as it might have a mix of things in antioxidants so there might be bitten. See an example like an active but the actual oil itself isn't inactive. Yeah yeah 'cause the ordinary have the is that Azza Laic formulation that site the MOISTURIZER and Scott I. I've never used it. But it's got something in it. So that would be their active ingredient ingredient within that product. I say I hope that wasn't even more confusing. Then when you just said it was typically saw just the active Yvonne. I feel like that kind of you. Know like flows well into the next question. which is it's Qui- is more of like A? Just let tell me now how right. How can you build a routine with the ordinary? Like why would you start like say because obviously it's quite affordable listener. Yes and they cover a big range from like cleanses to toners and you literally everything so you could build this fall routine of them at. How would you go about doing that? Like what. What would you suggest go in for so it's a beverly at one? Because obviously most of the rangers serums and active ingredient 'em so they do only have one one clans at one kind of traditional title cream moisturizer. And so we've actually made like start to care be today because we realize people really building routines that products. So we've got. It's the squalene. Cleanser and natural moisturizing factors is the MOISTURIZER. So I would say sought. Those two is your basics they worked for like any skin type as well a a man. I'd supplement not with a sick day and night a rational for evening under this Mitzi for the morning perfect that will be like a really basic All around general skin health and good introduction before you start learning about all the different things like the new the nice and it might and salicylic acid and all these other things. Yeah I I always think as well the beauty with the ordinary is the you can drop into any routine see. Don't have to be kind of taking things out of a routine. Can you actually quite happy with what you want to try. Something else united in obviously providing that you not mix to next ingredients but you can just drop in and take out as and when you please I think I well actually a friend of mine gave me the amino acids and B five and was I call give this ago like I'm a massive fan of ICS. I've got quite early skin because macos I'm dry was like hydrating product and I now cannot live without Ed but if I run out it doesn't mean that I don't then suddenly have anything that can use in terms of moisturizing my skin because still have moisturizer and I still have the oils so it's not one of these products whereas psych. Oh if I don't have it. Then my routine is completely bolster the nicely Lonzo and they like I am. News is quite lot from the ordinary. In America Muslim is quite law. From the order. In artist I really really lover affordable is and I just love it Just out of interest grace well in your routine from the ordinary. So moment I'm are you saying hydrogenic hostage the Marine Holleran exclusive. That's my favorite. He's that day and night and I'm also using natural moisturizing factors which is the moisturizer I use in the morning. It's really nice things and quickly. Yep You make upon bug. Straightway you have to wait in Brownfield cream to sink in Andalusia and then. I don't think I'm currently only easy anything in my evening routine from the one at the moment and because I'm trying out with you other things. Yeah but usually I'd have a rational yeah And use the names. I use quite law. I use the caffeine I- Korea and I you know off started you since are upset with show on upstart Jason Scarlet. All the time I in the morning or the evening both a lover. It's just so like a border was like yes. All right whatever like hallowed over the search so try and then like I went back to her and I was like you know what I actually really like this like my skin absolutely loves and oil is just a laboon ado us. He's like I've got my Retinal emotion. I remember when we we bought on the Black Friday sale. Shit Way Norman but It was in Madrid off ages and realize it was an emotion which is like a white bike liquid and I was. I got AL at nine months later and AS Roma it's Gonna I thought Oh my God why and then this is disgusting sometimes but like I do have quite the range and a half the peel the eight jail. Oh my God cannot live without. Don't use anymore current us. I believe we have a question. They earn about. It does save that one I have is what light you said like you can mix much drop ins one thing but my like absolute heroes at the moment are the Coughing Cream unsquashed unsquashed lescot lane so simple left lane but yeah The next question is how do we know which percentage to us when starting Out so obviously this is intensive acids reynolds that kind of thing Just to quickly like maybe set the scene when it comes to choosing percentages if you've never used them before start with the lowest she'll be safe and stow the lowest. We're not talking about a break. The bank product here. If it's if you find that you get on well with it before you get to the ball gifted T- friend because if they've never used the nest the bottom and you can buy the next and I signed up yet keep passing it on because it's not it's really it's a waste and if you find that you can't find anybody that wants a product and get in touch with those and I'm sure we can help book yet. What I'd I just wanted to start off with that? Imagine you're going to said same exactly. Yeah Yeah Yeah The only tricky bit that even is still sometimes struggle is is when you know when to step up. You're making it sound very easy. Just being the only posit teammate. And then try the next one here. But it's like one do you know yeah. Do you have any insights into that. I think it's totally different dependent on. Who is 'cause everyone's skin varies in sensitivity We sell a bundle that we put scandal with the three battles. The free percentages so that you can see as a course and do kind of move up That's kind of advised finishing up the Basel. Before you move onto the interest in and I think maybe a boss Alaska Belmont if you're using every day. Yeah we we also found with the with retinal cells or retinoids and rationales and we did a whole upset on. That didn't way book. A lot of people will. Oh find the therapy like armour. Really seeing it's making that much difference but in terms again of like a circadian rhythm and the rhythm of the life of your cell is. Is that a normal. Life is twenty eight days and the retinal worked to half. So you're going to have to wait two weeks until you see a difference anyway. So don't just get the the lowest and think. Oh it's not working it is you just need to give it to time to be able to see any difference when it comes to benefits or ever but again the so many different retinal cells. I mean we don't really have time to go into each and every single one I think we willing to bet just touch upon it but we do have the full episode as well especially with the ordinary lock before you've got retinal symbol Shaniqua all the so many grown activists year. There's so many many different ones so it can be quite daunting So may I like the idea of that little stall pot because it gives you a little bit of direction because it is it is hard. Yeah Yeah especially the stakes with rational. You know you just some people just see a big number and think. Oh yeah that's GonNa be the best and we'll not send sounds like nothing but there's literally not point to center point two. Yeah so it'd be easy to get it wrong hundred percent. Yeah The next question is personal. Favorites unsung heroism which to avoid. We've basically well pretty much touched upon what we're using grace. You WanNa start off with your personal faves unsung heroes in which to avoid so. I think we both know going to say my personal favorite the Marine Halawani and because we spoke by August at the site. But I'm just think everyone gravitates towards the highly running Hassett because they had the birds before and but the marine one honestly. It's so so good. It's it's my unsung hero. And my favorite or difference. This might sound really street but between the marine on the hiring. I think it literally is that. It's just arrived from Marina. Extra running this bribe from but this Hexter is different and not me as what am sets it apart zoo. The hierarchy custody is a bit thicker more gel like and it can be sticky and I find some ZIP pills. My skin events kind of Bisbee yeah and whereas the Marine One is almost like water that really quickly and you can just like pass into skin straighten honesty. It's ten times in my opinion. Oh yeah I I did look into it and I think it was something to do that being derived from Seaweed. Yeah like you know like Zazi we joe the amino acids is exactly the same. And that's why I love as like water and you just feel like he's passionate faced with a little bit of water and I think probably use maybe too much but you can't. It's one of those the things where it's like you if you put a few jobs on the normal. There's no word liar right. He Film Blair either feel bad about yet liaison What about the H.? Aba Trade deal is not in your per it's not in my Mama top three. Oh really like what's your ass you and you talk so natural moisturizing factors of which as well I guess under as it. But that's Kinda based on the idea that your skin house. These natural moisturizing doctors in anyway that keep it naturally hydrated and it's just like an added bonus of more of those audience so because it's so similar to what's in your skin you get any like reaction to it it went like clock you Paul's May Gracie that thing so it's really nice when you've got oily skin or You find that strives cozy to break out man. Yeah I am. A minoso of the squally cleanser tried that. WanNa try it. I wasn't sure and it's not great for removing makeup or anything. It's not like a heavy heavy juicy comes up but it's nice in the morning when you just want someone to feel it as it's clean but nope squeaky clean is about tight. Feeling no in cleanse them try again fail. Oh Yeah and aims what your personal faves on Harris and which to avoid I would say for me to avoid personally is the Ha Ha his. At I used to use it often This is from it only combination skin type. Well I was always cumby in the summer now is winter dry but like the one thing that remains is is the sensitivity on just I used to use it and think it was doing obsolete wonders because it tangled our. Oh my God is working And then you'd we use. It is amazing a little bit and I'll be like yes amazing and then. After a few times I realized also actually hang on a minute. This isn't doing any good at all like he did the same thing to me. The GOSSETT owners did. Give me a damn dermatitis along lot majeure and stuff unloads a tiny little spas because my skin is just two cents Sephora. Yeah so so You like my little sister on that just copies now. I used to do this to macos. Copy of insects lawsuits cool. Well like when I was used in a four. Oh my God my skin is so so soft. It's amazing and then you all over and as you know what my skin so soft I love it too and then after a while you know what to my sense a dome Over I'm a different person. Now I would say my top three props Alps Probably the squalene oil just the normal scholar and I just really like it lying. It was a proper thing in the Tuck. Michelle like I said before. No I've embraced. It now embraced use it morning on nine. Oh gives me the boost especially in the dark like dark winter months the freeze in winter months dose. Give me on the half started using it on Mike Matthias and stuff when I shave because it is really nice. Skin cash awesome. He was like 'cause I was like what do you use after shaven because he was talking about is buried and obviously I was talking everywhere you talked about you. Hello and I was. I won't I won't smooth skin on. Don't want to shave and rush them quite easily very irritated and he was like you know what squall line afterwards and like. It's so funny I now walk in on Francois Fatma and she's literally like this like between the thighs. An omelette unison. So the squalene squalene squalene scoreline the hollow and accosted quite like Kennedy said. It's like a gel to quite like I got what you mean. It's very tacky. Yes extremely sticky after Bach ferber. Yeah I always feel like after. Wash my hands after ask why which I don't like so I just like to power free Maria. Hey having so much minds is so annoying. I'm you know what do ever data like every time doing absolutely hates it could. Yeah Oh my God I never switched me. Yes I'm I'm GonNa jump on the marine hyrax and try the instead of Ohio Annika soon because as much as I really like it in the glow that it gives some skin like it is very Tokyo Okay and then third. I was going to make the coffee in isolation I really like. Oh Yeah I'll just if it makes my eyes a little bit plump here in the mornings I do. I do have quite deep doc circles. not this method can do about it unless I won't ascetic explore right now doc. So Hi I'm quite safe with mine because you are. I think it's that's what you skin-tight. Yeah it looks like I mean like I have to keep it quite safe. It really do not have an option. Yeah which is fine by me I was about to say off the back of EU talked about squall lane. One of my in favor of products from the ordinary is the grenade excessive retinoids in squashing. Because it's it's one of those products I was saying earlier when mm using retinoids retinal wherever you have to make sure that you give it two weeks. That one I find is a product that I will wake up from the immediate benefits. It's from the use of squall lane within the retinoids because my skin just feels so much fresh air and it just look a little bit more awake and I didn't look dry and like Bo uh-huh oil isn't a say it's very really. Yeah it is very nice. I think a lot of people get quite dry skin when when they use like a retinoids retinal. Because it's just it's literally just making use yes else So yeah I think squalene it must be pre bang on near regret production. Yeah am I think. My favorites accented their amino acids and B five. I cannot cannot live without notice the difference if I don't use that now And like I said it. So lightweight feels like water. There I can just mix it before I knew that I might Wanna use that day And then maybe a Fav- ooh I always hard. As so many. In a moment I think mine's victim in see powder a really unique in the CEI- Bala again of the back of your even when we were doing episodes roads and lot mentioned in vitamin C. A law ABORTOUR UND- again. I think is too potent for me. Yeah a really lies. Oh really but again I was fine in that was getting a lot of spots along Majola little tiny ones but the only thing that had changed routine was on. Yeah I think well we've definitely definitely been asked a question about the ordinary TMC which is best and I'll kind of go into that late to book. My only thing I don't think there is an episodes are at an episode. I don't think there is a product that would avoid necessarily the nice cinema. I find is good book book. Add to get the same thing when it's pilling skin when I go to put on. You know what I actually. I know. We don't talk about makeup by did not like their foundation. Oh Oh yeah if you've tried it all the ceremony. Yeah but not so much the coverage was Oh god I didn't. It was so bad I remember at the end. The day I took a picture of skin would flash on just to show like how much ahead group out here and on knows on honestly it looked ridiculous like on donated coverage. Yeah that was exactly why foul moving yeah And the thing in terms of coverage it does the job but one want. It doesn't last in two. I found that it was very like reactive to how my skin whilst we used an oil on my skin that more in frame whatever reason it would like really modify my skin and if my skin was dry looked really oily. It was dead at a fan. I know that's not skincare thing because it's cheaper than people you might want your opinion on it. Yeah your opinion specific linus if it clearly But yeah I I think my unsung Harris. HEB Ha Peel ooh wee poh ellipoid Poulsen's amino acids. Yeah yes Next question Like we said at the start. We're going to do this in two parts because we have been sent some and and says I put it on. His grandma have had a few questions at your soup interesting. So maybe we'll announce them at the end of this harm But the next one is what are the essential shoals nothing. That's varies a law comparison and I feel like it also ties in with the question where we were saying about building the roosters. Just think yes. Yeah uh it's very much your central's will be like for me Nice in a mind because it kind of pills on my face. I don't WanNa be in the everyday and also also do really like using the vitamin C. Powder which obviously as we've spoken about it kind of an elite to their so I'm just GonNa say ah every single person's essentials just an workout based on what you like. Can We anna having your routine but hopefully by the end of the episode will explain things that you want to go and buy or stall the bundle. I think that's a really good idea. Just to get yourself deputy toe in the water or showing me onto the next and the next one is all they as good as more expensive products which ties. It was the question that was sent in just now am from Hannah. Goon how could they save cheap now. What Hannah good question? When I listened to an episode an I'm on another podcast common? It was it was all about the S. Book Grace. I feel like your probably well equipped to answer this question yet again. This is a frequently asked question and so basically the ordinary uses products. Sorry the ordinaries ingredients that have already been used for years so they don't need to do any testing on them and it's the testing that costs bronze money when they bring out new ingredients. So that's why they save a huge amount of money because like hiring. It's been around for years. Yes so they can just buy it. They don't need to run any tests. They can just get it straight into production great products. So that's one thing the second is like look at the bottles sleight that super basic and good way but you know the basic minimal than not like flashier and FM and packaging. Yes it's not fancy that Kinda thing and they don't put money into that like marketing in the same way of Lebron's do they kind of let it all happen. Organic Glenn it does like people really hype 'em the ordinary without about them having to pay people to do it so that is kind of why they save money and that for that reason they can make the product soup kitchen. Yeah there was another another thing I can't I can't remember who it must have been really sorry. I forgot his name. Was it just in the guy that died. Oh True Vo brand new brandon trucks at us. It must have been an interview with Brandon. ACTU- unfortunately passed away this year. I think it was on But he was basically saying that. Hey when he buys the product because he's not mixing loads and loads of things into one bottle he it means that he can buy loads of it and he knows it's going to sell because he's selling he's basically taking out about that put into small and selling it so it's not like he's having to take care of that and then at four more ingredients in this one invite instead of four per product and it's only start mixing them even have to test that as a whole. Yeah it calls. Yeah Yeah so the yeah. Yeah that will work hand in hand because he can literally be like. I can get a better price. Because he balked buys the product and he can say well. This product's been working really well. And it's Super Popula Pila So I'll double the orders if that for the next time which then ultimately makes it cheaper. Because he's buying a lot of it in one go so yes so. The price doesn't really. It's not really a good well. It's not a reflection. The productivity is just a reflection on what goes on behind the scenes and reductions because I think some people might think thought it was really really cheap. It's amazing but at the same time wise so cheap is it she because shit. Yeah and it's like a reflection on the product is just what goes on behind the interest in it really exposes. The beauty industry has then you start realizing. Wow if those ingredients that cheap why am I paying being fifty pounds for this year. Yeah I was about say they could easily charge odeon pounds. Twenty Pounds Acre everything. Yeah and it would still sell. He has it would then meet the rest of everything else in the mark. But it's still cheaper. Yes yes I don't WanNA breathe it. Yeah I bought Squalor Informa- boyfriends Christmas present so I'm going to say that. Because because he definitely not listen shaving on it costs me five and even if that was fifteen quid out still it. Yeah No. It's it's eastbound but it is definitely one of those things where you like Questionable cheese you well gals dot kind of concludes. Paul One. The reason why we do not parts is because one whole episode was just going through question on says might be a little bit boring and you might not need to hear the whole thing however in the next in part to We are going to answer questions about the emergency products BEST PART FOR ACNE SCARS H H. Apr We've been talking about about retinal and something about Nice died which will answer the question. That's been sent in from Danielle OATES. So gals I will conclude part one right here and see you in two.

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Health & Fitness Fact Of The Day: Carb Cycling - 20 Minute Fitness Episode #139

20 Minute Fitness

06:00 min | 11 months ago

Health & Fitness Fact Of The Day: Carb Cycling - 20 Minute Fitness Episode #139

"What's going on ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to the episode of Twenty Minute Fitness. I'm your host Charlie and that his great about another episode few today wingers is looking at Cobb cycling. What is it you might assume from. How do you do it before we begin a massive. Thank you sponsor. Shape Shaven building a three D. body-scanning coming scale to help you track your progress and for more information you can head to shape scale dot com also do not forget. We are on the Amazon Echo as well so you simply say Alexa. Play Health and fitness factor. The Day by twenty minute fitness to listen to all of these short episodes before begins thought talking about Cobb cycling on. Do you all to remember less. No Special Diet quick fix or any of the fancy way or underway all building muscle and losing body. Thirty five comes down to calorie surpluses and deficits and exercising and burning more energy taking in and so on but cobb cycling can be away. That helps you stick to your diet better. So you can lose fat and build muscle depending on your goal but itself doesn't have any special fat-burning or muscle building properties. He's let's first begin by looking at COBB's themselves. So when cops suggested they break down into glucose and this is the preferred fuel your body and brain and on as glucose enters your bloodstream. Your pancreas is then signaled to produce. Insulin which is a hormone shuttles. The glucose from your blood into the cells where narrative then converted to energy will stores like gin or stored in fat cells and COBB. Cycling is planned. Alteration of your carbohydrates hydrate intake. So you'll have high cobb days and low cobb days typically. If you're hunting a high carb day this might call through to have anywhere from two to a two point. Five grams of carbohydrates per pound of body weight on a cart high carb day and a low carb day might be somewhere around nor point five grams of carbohydrates. It's per pound of body weight and the main reason people start cobb. Cycling is to try and prevent a Fatma's Plateau and maintain the metabolism Along with that workout performance and it aims to time you'll carbohydrate intake to win. It provides maximum benefit on exclude. You'd cobs to win the not needed. Many of you will know. cobbs a double edge sword withhold that that can use it to muscle growth by fueling our workouts. What's in creating a more anabolic environment. And our bodies. But we're also told that can use to fat storage by SPIKING are insulin levels which almost feeds our body. Fat With the Glucose Coast needs to stall so a lot of the time. People do see cops as the enemy because they wanted to to gain access. Wait however we do need cobs if we want to gain muscle and strength as quickly as possible and obviously it's all about being the deficit if we want to avoid paying the price of an ever expanding waistline and carb. Cycling is meant health health pause. Stop the pitfalls of building fast you to Cobb's whilst obviously giving us the anabolic environment. That COBB's provides a few our workouts accounts. So you can prove your carbon take based on a variety of different factors and this might be your body composition goals so you'll potentially reduce you'll cobb during a diet then Adam back in during a bulking phase when you're trying to put on muscle mass so you might as old them depending on training and rest days so you have a high carb intake take on trading days so I was talking about before about maximizing your calls potential and then have a low carb intake on rest days. You don't need as much fuel for your body. Some people follow. Scheduled ritual repeats which is techy to do one or several days to very high carb intake to act as reef e during prolonged diet. And your the following repeat you might be following a strict diet of say fifteen hundred calories five days per week and then consuming twenty five hundred calories with all the additional calories coming mostly mostly from carbohydrates on the other two days. You can even consider it if you'll come to a photo shoot or competition as I've all running for example as athletes Wilson Melson cobblers prior to an event. And this shows you the different objectives. People have when they consider altering the carbon take and following us with Cobb hop cycle said a hire car days are meant to replenish glycogen stores and boost your training intensity because of that it's meant to favorably the influence various hormones related to muscle protein synthesis and metabolism which includes the anabolic hormone insulin. And it's meant to temporarily elevate insulin nevels to help preserve your muscle tissue and boost muscle growth and then you usual lower carb days to maximize fat-burning almost like as we talked about. Kito before. Four really minimizing your cards and upping the facts and to get yourself into a state to fall asleep while you're burning fat stores instead of like Gin. Strategic High Saikal periods can also help improve function of the weight and appetite regulating hormones which we talked before as well called. Leptin and Ghrelin go into any more detail on the manipulating effector. Insulin levels wants to give a surface level explanation on Cobb cycling because I want the main thing to remember from. This is that that it's not a secret method to enable you to constantly build muscle mass and lose fat. It's another way to help you stick to a diet on your high carb OPD. Asian meant to feel like you're indulging in cheating when actually or not to retain actually amount you normally eat but it feels that way because you've been lacob spinner baits calorie deficit so so it feels like you're almost rewarding yourself out overindulging so. I hope all that makes sense and do gets in contact if you have any further questions on Cobb cycling and on whether it might be suited to you and your lifestyle unfortunately this time we have for this episode. We'll be back with more value packs content.

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Richie Tankersley Cusick's April Fools (w/ Omar Najam)

Teen Creeps

2:25:38 hr | 1 year ago

Richie Tankersley Cusick's April Fools (w/ Omar Najam)

"Forever. It's no joke. It's murder. This week on the podcast, Richie, takers, Lee, cues, April fool. Hello, welcome. To teen. Creeps the podcast that discusses adult. Not gene April. If you. My your. Lindsay Kate time. Kelly new. Stupid. Plan that I it was. Guide your it was really good. I could see you sweating profusely. Once you started. We are giant exactly as planned it did. And if we're not famous after this, I quit. I quit. April fourth. I might Vamos. The joke joke we are joined today by someone very special to us so special you may know him from thank you for questing from popular music. From Sunnyvale study group. We have writer director, and friend of the podcast omen, John. Hello. I'm not here as kidding. King. Rules. Limited. Not the king of April Fools. No, no, no, no. I says oh, Martin director comment king full. Worked on. No. My crown. Hi. Fools back normal thing we say outside of The Hunchback of. Is even if you convince me to let you be king of fools for April. You don't get to be king false for any other day. One of the characters. It never ends is actually I was praying for Frank's death. Floro out. I was like can we get there already aided him? I. Really hate. It. Can't tell you how disappointing most of Frank storyline. As into it. Yeah. That was my thought of constantly just like, oh, it's going to be a scream sort of thing. And it was just like and Frank pops up. I'm like, no, you can't can't. Yeah. Yeah. I can't handle you. He is the worst. Did you like this book? Yes. I fuck it on this book. Also. Okay, am I crazy? Adam like, really hot. I read. I think you should try and do plot. No commentary Omar's here. Yes. Definitely. Because I would just if you didn't know I mean, Omar is our Sherlock to domain theater are a p p, but you have been on teen. Creeps before goosebumps the haunted school, which I could not make because of the haunted work. Yes. Yes. Aka work, and I felt terrible. And I listened to the episode afterward. And I was like why am I even the host if? Omar should be Martin Kelly. This is amazing. Well, it will be better than we could even imagine with all three of us here. Yes. 'cause we have hash. We have Omar hashtag, no commentary. John. I was very interested to see what book it like what the content of the literature would be because I got so lucky last time that was such a gold mine immaterial, and and I like, Hugh so much like. Like, I was like I hope there's material for us in this one. And the second does the three of us. About to go to. Okay. So which the Frank. To be Frank. We should probably decide at the at. We can't continue. Let's gets told their brain cannot continue to record. Oh, God via walkout, absolutely absolute-. Like dealbreaker walkout. Are you guys ready? So right. You can fool some of the people some of the time. He go on the night of April. First Belinda Frank and Hilda are driving home from a party when they get involved in a gruesome car accident. The people in the other car never could've survived the wreck. So Franken says they take off after what happened wasn't really their fault. Two weeks later. Belinda is the only one who still feels guilty about the accident. Then the pranks begin someone censor a bloody doll head a car. Nearly rents are off the road, obviously, someone witnessed or survived the car accident, and they're going to make her pay slowly for what happened April Fools day is over. But these jokes are for RIA. No. No commentary. Okay. The plot. No commentary, no commentary. So so we start with with our girl Balint. Yeah. There's a party. There is a party sheets remembering the party, we don't know at one point this remembering it is appropriate. She's remembering the party when her and her two best quota, friends right are driving. Her friends are Hilty and her boyfriend and these boyfriend Frank yes who is in breeded dryer neabry. It'd third party Frank is voted can you round crowned king of fools by an unknown someone someone or by himself? It's not clear may have crunch himself. It's not clear if like there was a quorum to vote for him to be the king of fools. But he is the king of fools. Appointed himself king of fools Kalma much, everyone still light. Oh, everyone loved it. No commentary commentary. So they get in the car, and he'll these driving hill the is driving because they took the keys away from Frank. But Frank being king of fools. Decides to try to run another car off the road also screams as immortal. Yep. No, commentary commentary king of falls king. Because as we all know king of holes do not live. I never do kindles. Should we movie called king Cole's and tackling live fast? April first. I never from angel. I think okay. Well, I. No more angel their show Hannah tag. No it was like from. I think it was from a poster I saw or. Advertisements for buffing angel are works of art. They are they're back and look for these on YouTube now, I never even thought to go into a dance, but she'll dance with vampires. Okay. Sure. So they're driving the roads driving. Many. I don't the physics are unclear. He decides he's so used to grab the wheel, right? Absolutely. Only puts his foot on gathered feeling sick. But there is nowhere to pull off the narrow downhill stretch. It was curvy. Car behind them was trying to pass. Frank apparently, not sick anymore. Yeah. Not second decides to or maybe he's thrown up by this point. And afterward feels a lot better. And decides he wants to give the other car scare any swerves. He forces hill to swerve into the car knocking it, and then the car disappears in it seems like everything's fine. Yeah. The hit the car and the car disappears in there. Like, okay, again, no commentary notes on Jerry. What happens they're just the facts? But then all of a sudden, they see or hear crash end Parkway Ming in school remake remain on the car who gone off a cliff, and it's on fire intellect makes them stop or something. Belinda we need to have something like a runs down the cliff and they're yell out. Yes. She runs down the down a cliff and in there, then hill Hilty and Franko yelling Belinda. But there's been as in. Belinda don. Go down there. Let's leave you're fine morally and she runs all the way down a cliff and that the bottom trips and falls. Yup. The falls into a puddle if I'm not mistaken right before also like when they hit the car and the car disappeared. Then there's creams Frank says, it's fine. It's April Fool's. Yeah. I think he says something about it being April Fools or him being king of fools. There's something fools happening. Yeah. So Belinda down there Jurassic Park style. Yes. Very muddy and rainy. Yup. And she sees the race as yeah. Sees a face on fire. Frank says it's gonna explode. Yeah. The cars gonna explode. So let's just go get and they does and decide Belinda sees. A figure stones Orden. It is important and also important. She has like a bloody nose or something. Right. And she had finds this like little handkerchief in like yells. Her knows. Nobody rag. Obviously she blows her nose. Yeah. I'm like Ilwha shoes. Hands reaching out and pushing her and the warm taste of blood in her mouth and on her lips as she pressed the cold wet rag against her aching face. Just ran out over like an eighty eight. It was just a joke a joke. Right. That's just a joke then smash cut two weeks later at the cafeteria. Fries. Looks really depressed. I'm giving any comedy. They're just fine. He'll literally says it's been two weeks. You should be over it. Yeah. Is this something where it's like why? Are you depressed o our ENA why she's passed a baby about that? Kill people. No, terry. And they all agree that had about the get in trouble is a sportsman away Hilty. Yes. So Hillary was driving and frankness sports and grounded. And he does he does pool who will. Splash skied as pool. Slash billiards. And so and then Belinda is apparently the only one with nothing to lose because her mom does care about her. Yeah. She is that her parents are get this divorce. Yes. Is an mom literally. Disgusting it. Yeah. So awful divorce is to I'm sorry. No comment, nor disgusting. I'd I hate to say it because we're in the commentary section her mom has to work like double shifts sometime a good that's getting results, but she lighting to have divorced. Parents is one thing. But then to have a mom with a job ill insult to injury. Yeah. Over the over the PA system in the school is Belinda name announce, oh and she's tired because she's like, oh, no. They're gonna know that we kill the family because. Commentary the family. So she goes to the principal's office. Oh, I remember what's Gordon now who greets her, but a stern woman when many Bruce and disturbed principal at a desk. Far too large for him from the book. It's a desk far too arch story about it. Back just a bit of local color to huge and the woman dressed in all black wearing avail, right? She's wearing a morning Val. And her name is MRs Thorne, his Thorne. And did I look up to see if it was possible this book and its characters were inspired by the thornbirds? Yes. I did was I very wrong about what that book was like, yes, I what excess trillion has nothing to do with anything. It's good that we know the. Yeah. So we can research. I've a reason why this book, and I'll tell you guys in a second. In a second. But thorn has a big element to do with good in an insane way. That if you're like, I'm starting to put together, the pieces note, my brain is so. It's cannot see where this is going. So much like book. So MRs Thorne, she has a lot of bruises on her face. But she's wearing makeup. And she's kind of a B. She is on the scale. Yeah. Sure. Sure. She's on T scale. Yeah. Wants something from Belinda. And she wants is to iterating her son her you, she hate, do you think her son is young fareless ner will your Ron her son is eighteen years old the same age as Belinda? Why would you ever suspect her of the different age from the information? You literally just go. Syllable. So she she's like, oh, no she's covered in bruises and cuts is she of the family we killed and she's like, I don't wanna work for these people. But I will. Yep. I have no experience for some reason. Everyone around me tells me I should do it yet. And also that like any doubts I have people will either laugh in my face or create more lies to make me feel crazy. Yup. Yeah. So there is in fact gas lighting us book, not just lies not just not believing. There is in fact gas lighting. Yes. From multiple sources. Yes. Subscribe in fist rapid. Belinda says great altuve or your son that sounds wonderful because I need money for. For college which all raised through tutoring. So Belichick goes to which is surrounded by cops. Yeah. Cops everywhere all of our how because that. And then all the they know that we kill the family. Turns turns this do you live here. And she says, yes, this is my house and the cops is do, you know, this once she gets? Yes, that's me. Because it's my house. It's. Questions. Have you been in an accident? And she goes, no, they know we kill the family in two weeks ago. I wasn't an accident where we killed a family. No, no, and sweat a lot. And like it was spouses out machoism. Okay. Well, I guess chicks out. I he's like I'm very irritated with you for not having been in an accident. Please do not this again. Even though you are not the one who called which in all fairness, really quick. This isn't commentary on the story this real life commentary. Great. I I called in a cop one time because I thought someone had a gun and the cop was very disappointed. And I stood there. Talk to him for three hours about prostitution. For. He was just like you wanna know prostitution happens. No, pajama pants. I was gonna get shot. I would like to go back to my apartment and hide from the world. How? I have a story. That is also about calling a Cup one time there is a package just laying my door. It was not in the mailbox. It was not in the lobby of my apartment building. It was just laying against the door. And it came from a library in like Kentucky name, and I was like a library. Don't kentucky. I don't know why this is at my door. What if it's a bomb? Right. I'm nicole. Yeah. I called in a possible bomb threat and the cops came and they like did their little checks around it, and it wasn't a bomb. But what it was were Kia parts? Had been neglected. With my shipment. The previous day. Some reason were sent to make up for it from a library Kentucky. I do not understand. Okay. I my friend door. And there was like a bag was this. And I was like, well, it's a bomb. I like looked up like I was like bomb doorstep cross Angeles. I didn't find anything else. Like, wow this bag. This bag probably has bombing it. So my solution lies to tour and get a broom. Picking up with the. Lightbulbs from the city. Like trial ET's the exact came in. I love that you've Sumed. It was a ball because if you look closely. And it says it's. Spilled. Listen. When to call the cops. You don't know you don't obser- Pistre, and they leave up there like say the cops were not pissing me. They were not silly. But they thought it was cute. They didn't think you were attractive. But like were like, okay. Oh, stupid stupid. He was stupid rushing. She says she's like no I was not in enact and they're like fine by and then they see she scared and they're like fine by. Yeah. And then she goes home and her mom is like not there because she's a mom jocking. Mom. So she's like, oh, my mom's here to talk to me. And then she's like, I guess I have to go to this interview. And MRs thorn, pulls up in a Mercedes and drives her to the house. Yeah. Which is when she finds out that. It is not a child. He's he is actually legally a man legally man, she as she is legally a woman, and they go into the home and everything is very nice. But still and on the ride also she's like real quick. I held him like way we fucking hate each other. We yeah, I hit high him he hits me even mice on. And this sounds like maybe we're being silly. Like, maybe we're being commentary, but it's not. Belinda nodded and waited for her to go on MRs thorns, a deep breath her hands tightening on the wheel. He's very hostile. He mean, dangerous her shrug was non-committal. He doesn't wanna be helped he won't trust. You. I can promise you that. But you did tell him didn't you about me coming? I mean, the woman seems not to have heard there have been other problems in the past. I'm sure it's obvious to you that we don't get along. Quite simply, I hate Adam. And Adam hates me verbatim. Which? Which is no commentary it. Yeah. So he so common. No common karma. No commentary. The the Tudor knows if she's heading over right? They arrive at the house of quick no at one point mississauga's like oh cobs keeps it together. And he's sick and tight could. We even though we're there's no commentary could MRs thorns voice be like a very like Atlantic. Yes. Should be great. Yeah. Yes. My son and he hits me. Yes. Like that. I have my son. I hate my sad and hates me. I'm just married to his father, by the way, his father is in the in the hospital. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fathers Dinna coma father's gonna die. And he's not gonna make. And Belinda is like, oh, no. Is this the family? We kill rush still face every step of the way just know that in the back of note in the front of Linda's, my she is going Ono. Is it the family? Yep. In tallec. Yes. She arrives. And does she meet cobs before after she meets Adam after so? So they're meet cute. Cuteness? Okay. Mrs thorn, bounces Jesse shoves bullet into the room in slams the door and runs away. Literally sickly. Yeah. And miss miss. Belinda goes up start me bowling. Hello. And there's a voice from the shadows. And it is not happy to see her. No, no. But slender fingers behind her fingers in like, a husky quality and like. This is hard because no commentary, but it is almost phantom of the opera. He I know I want to do is sing from the live action, beauty and the beast is taking an three. Of. These are you know, you. Came to her. But I won't the journal saw original. Slaps the Broadway performances. But I won't there's a man in the shadows. Yes. Leah man in the shadows. Legally man, wiggly, man, he has a cane, and I know drying, no commentary, no commentary, but he's hot. Hot. But if we could, but no commentary, but if we could just like read a passage, which will poom. Mm. What we're no commentary. Belinda was suddenly aware of two things. He was using a cane and one of his street feet dragged. He uselessly behind the other Adam stop near the desk. His breathing slow in even in the rooms quietness Belinda stood still knowing he watched her she could feel his anger in the air, so real and so incredibly strong, her heart ached, not only for him, but her for herself and her awful uncertainties and then skip down the room was so hot. So suddenly on therapy hot and in a kind of slow Hayes. She saw her hands out in front of her searching for something to hold onto the darkness was growing, even blacker and the room was turning upside down she gasped, and there was nothing to break. Her fall known to help her. She slumped down onto the floor. Just thick blackness in a muffler roar in her ears and suddenly frighteningly hunched shape leaning over her. Blah. She felt hands. Quick her arms amazingly strong laurel hands beneath her shoulders from some vague distant. She thought someone spoke her name, but as her eyelids fluttered open, there was only the silence and shadows. And the thing looking down at her. Also, he he kicks her out. Like. Because my face. Also, he knew she was going over favourite part, right? So Follett get out get a hot. And she puts her foot down and says, I'm not giving up on you. Yeah. Is are you fighter except when it comes to saving family? She's like, I'm gonna tutor you. If it kills me like I killed you and your family. So she like she's good adults runs away. She's in the house, but she's out and I'm just going to. Meet someone. I'm just gonna read to savannah ginning. Cautiously? She reached out to touch the cloth to lift one corner away. She's at all box covered hadn't heard anyone slip into the room behind her. She didn't even see the hand of that came out of nowhere and clamped down on her wrist. I wouldn't do such a good accent? I wouldn't do that too. I will you voice said very good with a screen. Belinda jumped back the man towered over hurt gones and expressionless his hooded is fixed calmly on her face. And is Belinda stirred up at him. She noticed the slight movement of his other arm. His smooth attempt to hide something behind his back something shiny yet. Smeared with dull red a meat cleaver. So he's making dinner. Okay. I know commentary, no comment commentary. But this this book does read. Like the intro to erotica my life, recent license page is the intro Harada. Yes. Like every like they're going to bang. Yeah. Definitely about two bone. So there's undeniable sexual chemistry between her and at ABS and cobbs 7-foot-5. Also, she says. Be Mr. cards, and he says cobbs miss. Yes. And your no doubt mitzvah, Linda. She nodded still studying him. He was well over six feet tall ramming fire. Oh, very thin with her dad sort of face and pale comb is which had remained closed throughout their conversation. Slender, man. That's not commentary. Wonderman this sexual scariness of. Make you something. Reality. Now, the white moths came out of this. Surprisingly strong. Girthy? Those wings fans looks like they could get shit done. So she meets cobs, and he makes her T cream and little sandwich. Forces him to join her. He's like if you insist miss, but like is giving her, but like Belinda interpreting some glances correctly that he's amused and touch twinkling eyes at her his eyes twinkling her ease this this is the no commentary. For the listeners jumping jumping into the deep into this novel. Here is this not very similar to the gentleman from fresh prince the way that he interesting. In terms of stature description, but I feel like through certain lens. Yes. Like me watching for the outside. I was like that's the Butler from fresh breads from Belinda Dane because everything he says, we're just like you've a cat tend to personality of that. Right, but appear he's in Buffy dry. Literally. Silver teeth. So. And is just constantly putting his ear to to get the seeing that put his hand in the Cup and the teens. Touch. The teapot. Drives her home. Cops does drive her home. It's true during this time or drive home at some other point. No because she tries to run away. Who does she went into at the door? That's not this. This is next time. Yeah. Apologies. Maybe he thrives her. I think she just takes the bus home. Okay. Okay. So she goes home. And she finds something waiting for her now wreck. Yes. In her box her mailbox, and it is blood is this what have noted on. No, no sick. We will. Dark blood because of sick. I don't know. We just became family. Just literally. We've spent the holidays together now. So she gets home somehow, and she finds, oh, you know, what she gets her friends or there that and there's a little like envelope waiting for her. That's what it is. It's that I we have sidetracked a little bit from the friends because we really want. Bob's real quick. Can we discuss Frank? Yes, we need to talk about France. Oh, two things one Hilty, and again, no commenter commentary just for me personally, my experience very difficult because I just recently watched his girl Friday. That was real difficult for me. Especially because she does not do right by that name comparison now. So she's like she's dating Frank which was a little unclear for silver braids, still braised note for labor and Frank is Zander on on a whole 'nother level Zander in the swim team episode way plus Zander in hyena mode ES entered Haim out of each other. So you ladies fighting in ripping into this blouses, can I check FBI federal Budi. Are you are you? My parents sent home aren't don't have a whole can night body. He's like I'm gonna have you explore some of that. No man has ever dare go and like looks at our tits. And then everyone way. Oh, and every time she gets mad about having killed that family. He's like is this because like you wanna fuck me. Yeah. Yeah. I know that you do are. No, you like me because it is a stab that. Belinda liked him in the past. But I think it's pretty well established that that is no longer the because she acts not like that at all not for a second. But Frank is really holding onto that. She's like, I think we saw some bodies in that car. And he's like, hey, he'll de let's go have the sexual intercourse, Linda, I bet. I bet you're thinking that you can join about the. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, hey hill, the Remmy. Walk those sweater puppies. Picking speed the dogs. Do you want to? Hey, you wanna? Doc in the corner. And then he'll eat throws up. I remember, Linda. He's just kidding. Just kidding. He's looking his like, I'm a lap that shit up. Yeah. Dr. He had a really hard to practice like he didn't do well practice, and he always he always into a monster. Literal, rapists, per that, Linda. No. So why are you acting like you don't just let him fucking to file us with his eyes words. He has literally Beth the gills he's lying about all. These is not on this one. Not nor has he ever been on never shows up, and where's the Speedo? And then like hope somebody will convince him. Because nothing. He thinks team because he throws his jacket in the pool. Yeah. Thinks that's what you do to start a swim. Yeah. Girl. So one travel poster. That was over in Italy. I got swimming. So. So that's cla trying and low commentary the wrote the house, she gets male, right? Yes. She gets an obvious piece of mail, but it wasn't livered. It was set. Is it a box? Wait is this the thing that was delivered to her by the man that said he was paid ten dollars to deliver not yet later. Okay. So this is just honor porch. Oh forgot real quick before before balloon to left her now. Good friend cops. She spied a photo. Of two brothers that one writing at him when he was hot in Baden find. Yeah. And one being knoll the other kid to hot always has like sandy Brown. He's he's allies or something. Yeah. And a dog he is like the hotness of light and adamant like the hotness of dark, and she. Ms moved to tears. Yes. Looking at this photo. Now that is someone I could spend the rest of. Just like, oh, maybe me and him or husbands. That's good. Maybe him a mere husband. And so she's at home, and there is some sort of mail packet that she opens and she makes Frank open it, right? She's like ill you open it. Yes. We I'm so sorry. I think maybe what we should do is just read the book. Just have to one I'm looking for confirmation. They jumping out. And so did driver. Okay. Oh, good for him. He kind gentle gentle giant talk. But he. Spend time. And this is Linda. That strong challenging face full of dark secrets and dark emotions with Asya. Belinda closed or Spanish book, realizing she had no idea what she'd just read Adam thorn, whatever happened to you. Couldn't have anything to do with me. But I'm going to help you come out of your darkness. That's a seventeen minute point for the screenwriters out there in the world. That's the want song. I have to re-. The. She crossed the window picking up h frame and turn the boy called knoll was standing on a beach herald sun, bleached his is soft Hazel colored. And there was a huge dog decide but had something caught in Belinda throat as she gazed at the darkness of atom defiance showed in every unsmiling line of his face. His ruggedly handsome face not the face. It had frightened her so upstairs, his eyes and hair where raven black his face tanned like Knowles. But more naturally not just from the seasonal rays of the sun. He looked beautiful and evil at the same time owned a felt tears filling her is. One is a black hole and the other is a quasar. That's. Two and she's just a little hip passing between. So the mail so she's like ill Frank open. It right. I right. Yeah. It's a box and inside is a letter or a paper. Do you? Remember, what the papers go for it? It's a calendar of the of April, and there's a bloody circle on the first on April Fools day. The day of the king of fools day of the family the day of the family that they killed this isn't and then killing the family. This isn't really to the big thing to say about the book at the end. But it's it's ten generally related book predicts so much that was a joke on SNL and opening monologue recently, which image of the month of April. So I really wanted to shout. I think this book is predicted a lot. It's like the no stir really. So it's circled in something that they can't quite identify exit. They do identify because they know what it is. Melinda. Turns to Frank and goes Frank with you know, what this is I'm Franco's he ah. It's blood. Yeah. End of chapter and then cut to school where things are boring again yet. I'm sorry. Mooring sailor moons. Filler episode we can skip past and blah, blah, blah. Belinda goes back time to tutor. The thorn has time to tutor and save lives and. That's what she says door before she goes, and she's like all right guys time to save some lives goes house and Adams like you're back again. Yeah. Oh, and he's so like Texier, oh mask sexy. Since you mentioned Saint. He's just very oh. Is this the the time that she runs away and goes through the shortcut? Yeah. She also this is the time when he sees that she has that handkerchief with the letter A on with blood on it, it was tucked in her jacket, which apparently she hasn't worn for a few weeks. And if you remember if you're keeping track at home, she rubbed her nose on it when the car crashed done Gill, all the people. Also, if you're keeping score has touched a cynical of education but cereal in her tutoring career, so she hasn't if I'm not mistaken gotten to the fact that she isn't she is a Tudor now, I feel like she just showing up and going. Hello. I think she thinks she's Anaya Nian. Dr series that and she's like hi been like trained for fifteen years and opera. Show up here. I was hired as an angel of music night. You sing to me? No, please. Go. I say what you're saying eighteen year old, man. And I'm rich police don't need this. I don't. He is a rich own man. He they don't talk at all about school. Nope. He's like one eight let about yourself. That's the challenge. He throws down. He says, let's talk. She's let's talk about something fine. How about you? And they proceed to talk about him. Yeah. 'cause she's like what about your injuries? And he is like yes my scars. What would you happen to know about them? And she's like, oh my God. Is he a guy? So that it gets it gets a little heated. Yeah. I guess a little heated. Yeah. She's like I'm leaving. I'm giving up on you. I know I said last yesterday, I would not give up on you. I have to give up on you. I'm leaving runs and she goes to run out the door. She's not even saying hi to cobb's, that's how it set. She says a straight up Kate Bush music video. Yeah. It's me. It's kathy. I've come home and Belinda stirred up into soft. Hayes allies sunglasses hair and a teasing smile only inches away from her open mouth. So we have started a newer Roddick apiece. Now, this guy now with it is the boycott and all the boy called knoll who Mr. Noel, I Mr. Knowles. He is also a rich young eighteen year old man is kind and sweet he's the white the as the light. But he he loves spoon to immediately. Yes, there is not a moment instantly. And so he goes, let me drive you home. And she goes, no, I'm fine. I'll take the bus, and then the mom comes down. Yes. Mrs storage? And she's like I'm going to the apple. I have to go to New York. Everything always goes wrong. New York hate New York. And then he was like, well, I just got a job or something. And she goes you a job good because that's all you need more money. And he goes I like working he says that which is crazy. And then he says, oh, mom. I'll drive you cob. No. So I was like mom. I'll drive you to the airport and she's like, oh good. Good. And then he's like, wait. But how are you going to get home? Belinda and Belinda is lake. I'll take the bus and he's like bitch. No, I will drive. You. Middle earth. You it's not clear who is supposed to be taking the mom to the airport. But no one kid to sit and stew. Her own bitchy juices. So does driver home? He drives her home. And he is very charming men. She is Teri him. Yes. She is taken. He has taken. He goes home home. He got home. And there's something at home. Oh, yeah. Ways. Like check the mail because it comes every day like star valley. Yes. That's no. It doesn't really. I am going to read this. Because when I was reading it. I kept not understanding what I was reading. Then she looked. All right. So she just reaches in and something uses beneath her fingers and she pulls it away in the red globs of the wet globs of red on her fingers. The smell makes her gag. Yeah. I also had to read this many times. Yes. And she listens. Nothing's moving. So whatever there has to be dead and she eases her fingers back inside. And she feels something soft beneath the slime as she cups. Her palm around it the thing and lifted out and then she screams because she's looking at the awful hideous thing in her hand looking back at her. And the thing is looking back at her beneath a smeared coating of mashed end trails. It was a head. Once it had been part of a doll. Yes. Once it hit probably been beautiful. But now it's face had been slashed repeatedly and someone had stitched it sloppily back together with a thick black threat on its grinning at her. And where it's is should have been through only deep black holes. So. Where are these trail? Yeah. I don't know. I didn't understand if it were as like paint, or if it was actually guts because there is a smell, and it makes her barf. And when she shows the the head to hill, the rank they're they almost barf to everybody's almost barf. So that happened used to be a beautiful doll the used to be really beautiful as we can see on the cover of April Fools. It is a catch factual is cabinet fascism. On a time once upon a time a b. Whereas much today so specials are collector's items. Are they know? Maybe. Hello creeps wanted to take a quick break from the show to talked about one of our sponsors lending club. If you're carrying revolving debt, that means you're not paying off your card every month, and you could be paying thousands in interest every year that you don't have to like, I was before I consolidated my credit card debt. Here's the thing is a true story. 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He's thankfully in the best of possible. Moods asleep at his new how? And she says. Oh, the medicine darting cubs. What am I going to do? It is like this point. It is at this point cobbs is then like never. You can't get out. There's a moment. Yes. It is a one hundred percent. And she's never come back here. And she's like funny. She's like, what are you the king? Okay. When are you king of full by wooden? I've won I lost the. Wait. You're. Tha that much to like. But much of. And she goes inside because they are best friends. Yeah. They are. In fact. How they have to you again to gather t makes her hand. But and she doesn't even talk about the cream. She's like, I'm civilized. Now that crane she's like crank crane. Then she's like. My mom's never home, my best friend, and I do not talk. I have no friends, and then she like stares at him time. And she's like do you like working for these people? And he's like well there she has about the father, and he is like, well, he's like driven. But like I like to think that he needs me. And she's like, isn't it? Nice to sit and talk to somebody for once. And he's like, yes. This. With my friend. This the way it's putting the nourish. He pulled out a chair and waited for her to sit vogue for a while. There was only but clink of China cups and the gentle silence of sharing. That's not what that is. Belinda. Those. And then she says, I worry about Adam I worry that. He's so full of hate. Cobbs reasonably says it hasn't affected with you. I know the family he's like the what and she's like the family, my t we're buzzed fronts. So then he waits. So she. Oh, she's like, I'm gonna go. Yeah. This when I'm out, and then he's like, okay. I'll drive interesting. No, I take the shortcut through the woods. And he's like, oh, okay. The best idea. You should be careful, and she's like, it's fine, and she goes outside, and she's like, wow, it starker than I thought I shouldn't have spent so much time talking with my best friend called she'll listen to my best friend called. Taking the shortcut. Basically just runs around a lot in the best. The car is is it did you have to read this part of this didn't get it and moved on. I was like I'm just not gonna. Right to wrap my mind. I was I will be totally honest. There are moments as like this is going to be sort of like a freshman paper where I'm going to pop to the conclusion paragraph to wrap everything up every chapter. And here's all the things that guy from psycho is like in case, you're confused about this. It's got underlining film. I like knew that it didn't matter. But I was like I gotta understand. I insist on understanding what is taking place because after that dulls head. I let you do this to me again. So my understanding was she's running around. She's so she's walking. Oh, right. Here's the home of a car. She runs it. And she's like fuck I'm to run. I've heard the home of a car. There is a lot in this book of her deciding to start running has a sixth sense, which I would argue is not real. Which I would imagine a lot. She's just like man behind me and goes. No, no, definitely not. She's like, my cat, exactly. Starts running. And then everyone else was like it's four in the morning. There's no reason for you to be running like this. She's sprints around in the woods. Here's why had you keep going back, and why ause related to you? At least tell us. What happened? I will. I will. But it's a won't makes. Okay. So she here's the home of a car. She book saying, but his apparently running in place because Har is like ever so slowly following her headlights on and she's running running running running right while the car is like silently likes drifting zero miles per hour, and she's running running running ring and she trips. Yes. And the car stops. It's very slow glide and turns its headlights off. And she's like, oh my God gash on the face fucked up running running running, but this time she's like able to get somewhere. We'll because we we jump to her region a house I did not understand which doubling. Back pass the car because it says, so she here's the thing. Nothing. Moved swollen fear. Belinda began to run. Ned one long low shadow was losing out from the others and gliding after her across the concrete, and then she full Ling's herself forward, and then she could hear her own footsteps pounding in her ears. So she still running running running accepted. It's not coming to know. It's just sitting there. So I don't understand what she liked just not getting anywhere. This is playing three tomb raider games where I'm just like on the bread. Oh, it's invisible wall. Jump already. Right. She runs again. But Chris over where she runs she went back to the house. So she materializes because she jumped cuts we don't cut to her banging on the door. But here's the thing is a my head. The park was like across this. I didn't get it. And I didn't get also because then just run again pass the car again to get to the house. So it was like she find like she's the fishy came. So she's just literally like. Like over like a hundred square feet. Yes. Felix thirty minutes. Yes. And then hike. Okay. So adamant there. Yeah. Okay. This hit. Saucy news. So I was like Danes like the head. How are they not mcing? Right. Yeah. I love this part. So he goes back. Her face is all cut up. Adam is there and he's like, oh interesting. You look like me now. And then he's like lemme take care of that. And choices. He's like, you're bleeding. Come inside. She's like talking about the car. I'm then. Okay. His eyes fastened on her face with an acid. She held his gaze. It seems forever that he watched her it lasts. She gave into his stare and sat a chill working per spine. As the snake crawled slowly over his right hand on the door. With a snake? Yeah. He he doesn't have the Elmont. Does still. Opens the door also thinking of slave for you by. Either either work either which I mean, either such a mess Adam school to gently I mean, this is such a Porto. Crazy like such a mess tests. Mets. It's like, oh, what is that? Such pity? Oh jareth in Labra. Yes. Action that is so that energy he is like alien slash g. The big chair Doha. I was like waiting any second her for him to like propose. Let us be together for like astronaut her yet as queenie would you like to be Queen of thorn magic this all of this is so. Is that he did not then sponge bath or entire? He was spied surveys. That this ball did not make its way down her Cleveland. Adams, gently from that send you are. You kidding me? Like full living reading this. I was like, oh, okay. You should stay away from shortcuts, and okay, I have to read the whole thing. Belinda glanced at him sharply searching his face finding nothing. Doesn't like surprisingly nimble fingers. He ran one cotton swab slowly down her cheek. She felt fire and ice and her hands. Chris table another prelude through. Keep going. How do you know that she asked weakly, how do you know about the shortcut cups told me? There was a sharp staint as he held the cotton against her skin. You should be more careful Belinda you could get hurt. She bit her lip trying. Bella swan? Very important. More shadowing. Really? Expert fingers worked slowly up each side of her fake, expert, dot dot, Masada, coll- dot dot dot deliberate. Oh, mike. Are you kidding me here? Okay. Here here. It was where I went. Reeking? His touch was light almost teasing. Underneath. She felt cold steel. A frightening. Strength barely helping check. Please don't do anymore. My mom can take care of it. Your mom's not home. She's working double shifts at the hospital, and she doesn't get off till seven AM the rest of the time. You're all alone in the house. Pu Linda's heart jumped her grip tightening on the table edge a hurt gripping. Gripping the table. Alcohol. It's going. She clinched your thought. Work. I know a lot about you. Belinda Adams fingers lingered against her cheek. Oh insane. This. Other other him slid slowly down her neck. Certain sending shivers through her hitting finally clamped down upon her shoulder. It isn't it strange. But I keep feeling I've seen you somewhere before she couldn't move. Suddenly, she was so terrified that all she could hear was her own frantically beating pulse. A screen struggled into her throat. Her voice came out over at shrill and broken. Sound nervous Belinda to her horror leaned down slowly lives. Ready? She could feel his comb even breath the chill from his eyes. And I'm trying to figure out he whispered just what it is about me that makes you feel that way around his neck, the snake roused. Okay. Bodied into itself. Slowly, whiff tting. It's forked tongue darted inches from her. So he's like he's like do you want to be a third? Do you want to be third with me and my sick? Here's how. The button to pull out my gosh. Full into going. I think I'm all fixed now and then at I'm just leaning going you can't fix what's broken? Heard just sweating her body weight. Sliding out the door. I have to go in the know comes. And he's like, hey, what's going on here? From the east here. I was just on a pupil jersey shore, it's just walking along the boardwalk in my boat shoe. Martha's vineyard. I was I was at a picnic with the Kennedy. So it's fucking crazy. That's crazy. It's crazy rang. My God debt, he may as well have been saying jareth line at the end like just let me rule you. Yeah. And and like, I'll do anything you bought it. Yeah. Raise the it is crazy. I love this book. She's having difficult type not so on this one. Yeah. The no strolls in. Yeah. But he's like, let's go for a ride in my car. And this is this one. She's also saying like, no, I'm fine or no he takes takes takes her home. And honestly, she just jumps into a cold shower if I remember correctly. I yeah. I think she jumps into bed inches like furiously. Starts master. Yeah. Furiously. Have you seen Penn fifteen? Yes. So much worth your. It's it's it's that time fire. Yeah. Just looking at a magazine photos of sand dune. Hysteria nineteen ninety right? The dictionaries you just highlighted. They were to windswept and just like. She just goes on Encarta nineteen ninety nine and then types in like mountain. Fifteen then she. She's back at her house. Right. You've just dropped her off Owen hill. These there is there and he'll look bad. Right. He is is this when he'll be an franker there. It's just you folks. No. It's not that. We didn't do our research. It's if this was a screenplay you copy paste, the slunk line interior exterior house. I answer your house interior school exterior thorn house in store now over and over and over again, also what's really complicating it for me. Anyway, is that Hilty Aaron hill the Frank come in? They like just do the exact same scene over and over like every scene with Hilton francs interaction with Belinda is exactly the same where Belinda goes. But we killed that family. And they're like, oh my God. I cannot believe you are not over that yet and Franco's like, hey, I have a penis. You want me inside you. Yeah. Losing an and every time she's like, hey, like, I think that this is the family we killed because like they have told me that they're the family. The family, and they're like what you there's like a literally seven million accidents that happened a day. I don't know that spot in us by. I don't know what you're talking like select Caridi right now. I like, okay. Yes. 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They donate feminine care products to homeless shelters across the US. That's a really good. 'cause I love the convenience and the product itself like I like that it comes right to your door. And I like I like their tamp, man. I use them. I use them. We advertise for them. But I use them. So let's get your jim-jams flimflam with some ding. Ding Dong Lola, this is how we're going to do it for forty percent off all subscriptions. Visit my Lola dot com. Enter promo code teen. Creeps. When you subscribe again. Go to mypillow dot com to get forty percent off all subscriptions and enter promo code teen. Creeps when you do that subscribing. I might be wrong. And how I remember this. Yeah. Granted I just read it. But the likelihood is like there's at least two moments where there she is. Like, I think this is the family, and I think they know and they go yet. But that happened two hours away from where we live though, they do that. We were there to two hours away that night at the spot where this happened, but we don't live there. Yeah. But like drew a circumference that would be other spots that were also to. He said that coach incur he gave me he gave me longitude and let it tude. And he's like, ooh, I'm hard right now. He's like I have a I for me, speaking of curves, Fugui Venus. And I know that you want me to. Fuck. She's like, oh my God. I miss out. She's like, oh at the second rule to you. And she's like Nolan unlike girl, we all know, you're not thinking about knoll, you just knowledge acknowledged that. You weren't him to bony with that snake on his just want him to destroy you like your destroyed. An odd thing to see the chemistry of Jean grey. Cyclops and wolverine in reverse order jingo meets over in for the first time and goes, oh my God. Yeah. And then walks in and goes like, hey, I'm the leader of the school for gifted youngsters. He goes. Yeah. I guess that. Yeah. I live in school. I have optical beams made rose court. What do you think? She's like, yeah. I guess that's the one, hey, James Marsden. And meanwhile, like wolverine is like raging out all over the place with big muzzles, and like just just tearing things circa ridge. Oh, circa ridge to the world. And she's like man, I'm really into the guy that wears a visor. The chemistry. So if I like, there's haven't at this point, they might talk about suicide point, which is a place that kids go to make oh, that's a place that is leader. That was earlier Franken the reason we cannot keep the straight is because Franken heal these scenes with Belinda are the same. And the only differences are like there was like one part where I did not understand. What's happening? It's when they all meet knoll, they like leave and then come back that is when slug lines into script would really help me out. Because I thought they were they were there in her house still but a bell rig outside the house waiting for the pizza. Oh. So that's right. So he'll de showed up at Belinda 's house being like, hey, I thought we were gonna like dish about knoll and eat pizza, and you're gonna like shut the fuck up about the family for fucking once. And then Belinda gets there. And she's like, oh my God, the family, and he'll like I thought. We're going to get pizza. She's like, you're you're annoying me so much. I forgot to bring pizza and then Belinda is like, it's okay. I'm so sorry, and he'll like a fine. Be better start fucking talking about. No, tell me about doll. So then they're dishing about knoll. And then and the order the pizza who shows up. No, not with a pizza. Not other beats disappointingly enough disappoint, and I was like horse pizza. And honestly, I as a reader was like oh wears at him. Because all I care about his Adam. So no like look by the end of my Pro Bowl. Yes. Really? But also at them. No. I'm talking about why? Okay. Okay. So knows there. Nope. Pizza, and then oh, and he'll these like. Yes hill, the keep getting confused about whether Belinda or he'll be is the main character, which is I also have the best no sign, so he'll these like, okay. I'll just like wait for the guy the. She's trying to give them a loan. And she's like I could go in a yeah. No, I will go outside. How saw. So mill commentary we get into picture the pizza guy order pizza. Someone waiting for them. My job already. Are you? Okay. Emergency like. Because you couldn't call nine one one. Yeah. And like, I know that you don't have access to a phone for it as the year nineteen ninety year of our Lord nineteen ninety. So healthy just like stonefaced outside a house, and then knoll Anna Belinda like talking again. And I think knoll is like trying to assure her like, okay, I should explain a few things about you don't have to be afraid of him. Because what you should know about Adam is that he is to Lucia wire. So don't be afraid. I shouldn't have I should have just had this out in the open. But like he is delusional liar. And is he called by some dangerous? Yes. But like that's not he just like what's relevant is a pathological liar. It's true. He does just extinct. He experiences things that don't actually happen. Yes. That's true. So like anything he said to you about like Hewlett. I don't know killing the family. It's because he's making it up, and she's like, wow. Okay. All right. Even though she's like I killed the family, though, don't worry about it. Adam put that in. Head. Yes. This is when she confesses, right? Not yet. Okay. And then shoes having an inner mental hill. The and Frank come in and pizza Frank showed up. I don't think they have pizza. They don't have my God. So he'll the Frank show up on the clear. He's like, oh, no, no. We're having a picnic as senior pag near picnic. You should go. Wait. No, Belinda doesn't date. So you can't go unless you take Belinda. And so they do go to this picnic. Yeah. And so is just like I would love that. Is this the moment where they also see some a man outside do so. Oh, yeah. The Belinda like turns and like as they're like, you should take her to on a date to the picnic. Belinda turns around slams the door. Everyone get the fuck down. Turnoff outside on the sidewalk where men walk gets on. I think I standing. Saw as 7-foot-5, man. Shoot. Floating. And there were these monkey. Take it men around him. And Buffy made a funny. Gesture loading. Like, drink Pete. And so she's like this is this is deaf gone worse. People. Was that? I think that Cobb might have been outside. And so they shut down everything. Yeah. What your company down? I don't live anymore. And so everyone just like freaked out and Knowles like so yeah. To victims. The picnic. Well, I there's that moment where Belinda is like sleeping, and she's like trying to convince us that she's just like thinking about how much pain out amazing. But like also, you know that she's masturbating doing it. And then a fingernail scratches schooling. Right screen and just whispers. She just thinks herself. That was dead. And then she's like hill, the those Adam, and then he'll these like fucking dreaming. Yeah. Need to chill out and just go on this picnic date with? No, yeah. She's like Hello. We're all doing the picnic thing right now, we're not talking about dreams, and we're not talking about the family. Two weeks ago? Was doing it was two hours away. Why are you still talking about so far? It's like I can't even barely remember it? So there at the picnic knoll is hungry in his he's guys. He isn't it. Picnic, Dr he's a little picnic picnic prints. You the valley picnics Frank is the king of fools. He like goes and like nights everybody at this picnic. Yeah. Everyone loves them. Oh my God. He would be voted most likely to whenever a picnic. He wins over the magnetic. Yeah. He also eats a lot. He's playing twelve games sports. He plays so many sports games. And then afterwards the picnic clears out. And he's like we keep this game going. Let's go to restaurant. She's thinking what you're crazy. You would eight. So my guys eat more, and he's like Mexican restaurant restaurants. She's like. The crazy thing I've ever heard thing. Only got you're too much wearing love. She's like. Time. So they go to Mexico for literally ever everything's fine. There. Yeah. If I remember correctly. Okay. Cool. So they go to the next thing. That happens took a lot of my attention. Okay. What is it is this when they get back in the car? Yeah. Yeah. And then they're just driving driving drive it. And then she's like, so as it was that Mexican food. But whom yeah, they could hit car behind right? They get fucking over and and they live. Yeah. They get run off the rose. He thinks that she's dead for a second. Uh-huh. And she's like, wow. This is really similar to kill the family, and then Knowles up and goes in reverse the car, and then just drives and just back, and he's like, you shouldn't go back to your empty house because your mom jobs, the mom also this pop up every so often, it's just like, hey, you should marry someone. Yeah. Go be a nerd. Nerd mountains. Very cool. As you say, it's a shame. She isn't around more because the mom seems like a good fund. Mom. Yes. She's like later on in the book. She's like, oh, let's play scrabble. She's like, yeah. A nice cool. Mom. She's of the context. She exists completely. I know she isn't a completely different book where like she and her daughter are the Gilmore girls. Yes. I was just about to say that a hundred percent. Get into Chilton be like biggest thing like Rory. You. Every family. Although that sounds more like new Rory. That is true. Then. Frenna family. Take that. Fucked logan. To try to make up right? Still all the cornstarch. So they he has. So he's like you should come to my house, and she's like, wait. Have them be there. And she he's like, yes. But don't worry about it. No. He's gone on Kinman cobs are going to. Comes off. Adams movie. I offered his name. Cops clubs and Adam. The move. It's. Mr Adam time to go. See those moving Nickelodeon. No, don't worry. Adam is not here. Stay at my house. It is safe. And he's like you don't have a stitch to where. This is. I was like seriously. This is when we get into the deeper tax story when you look through most of my Ariel. How set were you when Adam did not show up? I was pissed. I was hoping fucking furious. When she heard someone come in. I was it's Adam. But it was fucking knows fucking quick. I understand where both of you are coming from. But this moment is the all of it is Adams fantasy. This is knows fantasy and the reason fareless term saying this because the stitch she did not have to wear. Replace through MRs thorns ninety that was a real short short. It was I thin. Ace to rate up evening gown of I still so for me I pictured like a ninety allays sheer very year. Very share. Tony tastic teddy tastic, maybe mid thigh not to to short, but the lace is going into her cleavage. Here's so when I was little so I grew up with my grandma and my grandma had this trunk of close. It was very cool for us to play dress them in and some of the clothes were hell nice. Yeah. She is to work clearly, and that we were not really fully thinking about. But there was this one where it was like a curve hugging nightgown that was like either like a tan or green, and it was like satin. They had an it was like wool spaghetti strap laced. Did it have the lace like a lace? Like like, you know, how there are those like triangles like it just sort of like covers the boob and like lace. Yeah. And yes, I know exactly what you mean. Deep neckline. Yeah. But but dress all the way to the ground. Like wearing an evening gown right to. That's what it was like. And so that's what I kept picturing like, hell classy. Yep. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So you've never looked. It gets very psycho. Vary like flowers in the attic, very V C Andrews raising is and I have to read it again insane. Okay. No. Would start. It's crazy 'cause he says it'll probably be too long. So then meow dragging on the he led her down another upstairs hallway to a cozy room at the back of the house won't Belinda moved around. His song would be. Cool. No too. Yeah. His song Knowles be. Oh, he's. Halter should with me. Time. Yeah. He's doing that. She's like he's wrong. And guess what song? I had second my head last week which I did. In fact, tell you that's on. Yep. And this is his haven't even knows all it is the notes from books. He Bubba while Belinda looked around. He excused himself for a minute. And by the time, she had found a bathroom and some towels. He had reappeared carrying a white silky nightgown. It's white Knight. Didn't think about that? It's a fucking bridal gown Omam's. He apologized help probably be too long. But I'm sure to look better on you than it does on her stop, stop, stop stop. I know it's impossible. But it will look better using veering into. Goes. Notes on her again. Phillip does not. Blinded right. Mummy mummy. Listen. Mother mother. Oh, mother mother mother mother assured our new, but I'm sure to look amazing on Belinda. Thank you for posing. As my dress doll. Belinda tried to imagine MRs thorn in one of her own flannel nightgowns, but couldn't quite contract the image. She sat down on the edge of the four poster bed as Nolde drew the curtains and showed her showed her empty hangers in the closet. And if you need anything at all, just go. I will Linda set nervously is your room close by two doors down and cobbs is off the kitchen. But if you need a snack or anything just pound on his door. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I won't eat anything. Belinda said softly, Belinda knoll took a step toward her his face. Wait. Oh, mother. Look, I know you're tired. But could we talk tomorrow she turned away? I know I said, I tell you. But most seem to be having a mental struggle at last. He said, okay, I'll see you in the morning, and she heard the door close quietly behind him. Belinda lay back with a size, so overwhelmed with fears and question, she couldn't even think it took all her effort to get ready for bed. She slipped the sheer nightgown over her and it slid on like the white tube sucks. Move cool against her skin looks at her so full lake mirror. Me somewhat amazed at the transformation her Brown hair filled, gently over the dining straps that our shoulders and the low cut front front was trimmed in soft lace hugging curves of her body as it had once hugged Kerr misses the very we really know MRs thorn must have paid a small fortune for this nightgown and Belinda guests. The woman wouldn't be a bit happy to know. It had been loaned out still it made her feel almost pretty and Belinda looked at her reflection. This isn't saying looked at her reflection smiling, sadly at the stranger who smiled back. She didn't hear the door open behind her. She. Didn't see the tall shadow slip into the room and his reflection appeared in the mirror behind her. And the fact that it is that I needed to be Adam also this is so fan or the opera the parades like looking into the mirror like drew dreams are. She's been around your mother. No, we're willing around. Belinda cross. I wished it was me at my. She is in a white nightgown. If it was Adams, her nightgown would be charred and on five. Fuck in Congo. Honestly, the song with her. And and and an atom is far at the end that like really discordant song that he writes, the one we were joking in that what up PD that like the bugs were singing. Purpose. Well. The office on up. If I had a Looper, I can totally do. I think Adam Sandjak phantom of the opera covered by an electric orchestra listened to by fourteen year old who was just like, I guess I like kind of music. Like, he's just d-. Like, all I come back. My board out. Also, she's a real quick Belinda like super bull is super plane. Yes, that's why she isn't seating. She keep. They always say that about she's just fucking knockout. She stunning you look at her and you like can't speak for a second. That's always how it goes with these books. They always think they're playing, blah, blah, blah. Gender politics whole lot just a book. I would I don't know we have the same thing for guys in terms of like the stories identify. It's like a like a small scrawny guy like finding power. It's not like each secretly were strong the whole time. It's like Steve Rogers like, no, you would you would have died. We didn't your body you are now worthless. So there's no like the girls dream is always like, why didn't even know how beautiful I was me. It's like we're the main characters like man, I'm so playing and then everyone's like, you're beautiful. Right. There's no I don't know about. No there has to be. But like, I mean, there is there's like turns on it. But like just like, the she's all that sort of thing is like so funny. Why don't yes? Yeah. But like outside of like stuff, it's just like this guy walking. And then like this like these these ladies are just like, hey, why don't you take him and change him? They look up. No. That's no, yeah. Yeah. Every girl fantasy is like a new hunky guy comes to town. And all the like popular pretty girls are like oh my God. I'm totally going to date him. But he only has eyes for her. But she's so playing except she's not just the right? The right mothers night. So no, oxen is just like I saw this. Right mirror Sawyers ways from phantom. Predicted the phantom. I don't know if it'll be can you hear it? In dreams e. Both faction in your glory. But out of day on five right now looking at all looking. Try. Speak. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Be compared to the opera put it on. Federal two years ago. Me and dreams. Calls going up the stairs. Fanton? The. She killed his. I'll just real quick because all and her this is during almost have sex book. They do. Okay, bubba. Her cheeks flaming hot is Knowlton startled step back, blah, blah. Blah didn't hear you so conscious of his eyes. So conscious of his nearness in the smile. Upon his face into his lips move gently down her neck his arms went around her turning her to him and does her body pressed against his she could feel his heartbeat as rapid as her own. She opened her eyes, and he was looking down at her brushing her hair back with his fingers. You suits you teased. And she blessed even more I think you should keep it mom ever, miss it. Belinda tried to pull back in his eyes lowered to the lace at her breasts. She pressed against feeling vulnerable. I think breasts feel them, but as he released her tier, suddenly filled her eyes. Please don't we've Belinda. What is it? Why are you crying? Singh. And. And then she tells him fucking everything I killed your family killed you and your family family. You're not alive. You're crying dead. I'm so sorry. And he's like, okay, he's like logged. I have to go. It's like a data Star Trek. I understand that thing you were telling me, thank you, captain processes quarters. And she's like, okay. Great. So they don't together. Right. Right. But then she comes up with the theory that Adam was the one who crashed the car on Herpin because because a track record. He's the track your end because things she sees. Which is the the coma. Father's study. Yup. She walks by. Okay. But here's what's crazy is that that has not happened yet. Oh, has she even seen him stuffing the papers and the desk pink? So that's an outer Nogi what she then she talks to 'cause yet tells her happened until like bucking twenty pages later. Well, then what the fuck doing years recall is just like guesses. Okay. So she's Colombo ING. Yes. In a nightgown in the next day. She goes to school, which is a little Jessica Fletcher. She's murder. She wrote. Thrilling? Fletcher in phantom of the. And then he'll these like, hey, I heard you stayed over. Did you stay over? And why? No, we slept like emitted been Adam way. Let's talk about Adam really quick. I think Adam killed his family. Like, wait. Why do you think then she's like while? I was talking with Nola. She's like, I'm sorry. You know, we made a pact. She's like you're supposed to be my friend. And is I'm about to something falls apart. Yeah. He goes use opposed to be my best friend we trust each other. All the time. We would never hurt each other. Like how I hurt you with Frank. It's all been a prank. We've been pulling pranks on you. We full tricks on you all the time, you constantly have you regurgitation? It's like. The whole book just completely bolt. Fucking you up so hard. Why are you got a good friend to me? She blames Belinda for this. Yes, she she admits that Frank is the one who fucking called the cops Frank is the one who sent the calendar. Frank is the one who put that dulls head in there and. Saying she was crazy. This truly is gas light yet. He te'o real quick. This is no commentary. This is just this just recap Frank Frank circled a piece of paper with blood yet. Frank swatted. Belinda does house. Yeah. Frank covered a doll's head in entrails after slashing it and stitching. It back together is. Yeah. Had you do like some saw shit to s a doll and Belinda goes. And then you also scraped your fingers, it's my window and was for murder, and then he's like, oh, why would we? She's like we have. Bridge too, far you come. Why are you could you could you could you in? How dare you know, what I thought we were friends we were very best friend, and the reason they give for playing pranks on her is that it's because. Refused to get over them killing a family to gifts before and they're like so weird is going to place them jokes to show, you how ridiculous we're paying. And also, I think I actually might have taken a photo of this because there is a part. Where hill basically says well, you know, Frank, he's the king of full. Self appointed title grind. She's like, obviously, he would do those things because he's a gain of falls. Belinda I understand that. He's became a full. I do understand that I respect the title respect. Bird in. Birdy comes. Where's the crown? I understand his fools area. But this was too much. And so he'll just. Oh, she storms away. This in a mall. School. At the mall the school school mall. No, I mean, because then we will call that the quad they're like literally at the mall. So then she goes to the pool. She's like I gotta go find Frank Frank at the school. I will walk in to the school. And then sees Frank face down in the pool drowned to death next chapter not Frank are bad. Jacket doesn't stop from CHRI Hilty first of all Argo. What's her name? But that's, but that's. CPR to to. Fearless. This is not over teary. She's like, oh, I have to save the jagged. She dives into the icy water saves the jacker Treves the jacket. She's like trying to resuscitate the jagged heal these weeping. Wait. This is Frank. This is a jacket and hilly holds the jacket goes, I can't believe he's dead. But as does like, he's not. Docket. And then she's like, maybe he's tricking us because he is the king of fools here. She's like. These gone because. All right. Can't believe we're does not friends anymore. The blend is like I got to find out where Franken I wanted. No commentary. Frank coming. It wasn't colleagues -actly certainly not a question the room was dark, but she saw lights on in the pool. And she knew without a doubt that he was there. She what closer her heart like a rock in the pit of her stomach haute. No, this is this is before she finds him in the pool. She walked closer Bubba her hands clinched troubling at her sides. I know you're here. Frank come on out and yet somewhere far in the back of her mind. She thought it was strange. He didn't answer that some snide remark didn't stopper at the edge of the pool that some hurtful joke didn't challenges she searched through the dim light for his leering face. So it's good. Come on out, king fools jokes over she waited for his left to echo from the walls to ripple from across the quiet shadowy water. It was shadowy Ono standing at the water's. Some murky shapes using across the sea surface playing slide tricks with her is luring them to the far end where a deep deep shadow lay Lezo varies still one deep shadow deeper and blacker than the rest. Shapeless and bobbing. Cloudy dark water. Come on out, you king full. She is e shock as she dived in hurt. Her own quick guests of horror, the faraway Pedic of Hilly's scream. And then the world went silent Frank as a tomb far far from the living. Oh, God Frank silent. As the thing that floated and twisted limply in her arms. Right. That you can of New England stop it. Belinda pulled herself weekly to the side of the pool hill. Hysterical sobs going over and over strangely. Shot to emptiness. Belinda layer had down on the cool rough surface. But her body was trembling Soave Islen that she could hardly hold herself up out of the water. Stop hill. The it's not Frank. It's only his jug. That moment. I was like, okay, RL Stein. Yeah. Yeah. So then he'll she's like, well, let's just see what she actually says. I remember she's like. Brink. You main? Role. Then they fight hill. These like I want to hurt you and like during you. Okay. Now. She's like, hell, let's not fight. Maybe Frank street to play a joke on us and oh hold on. Okay. This is. Him. I thought was dead healthy. Okay. Okay. Don't fall apart on me. But but you're disappointed, aren't you? Belinda not dead. Come on admit, it just because you can't take a joke, colonial the, you know, better than that is it 'cause you're still jealous heal. These was getting louder just because Frank loves me. Not you like what the? I really believe you're just jealous because Frank picked me. He's three years him and owing fucking guys. No, I do that. He's wonderful. He's. He has a great sense of humor. Really abused me to believe this. She runs. Italy's out. She's like she's fully insane and run to the hills. I'm going to Frank's right now. And we're going to have a wonderful weekend together without you. We're not friends anymore. And they by the way, varied or bear listener. Of minds if you're eating their theory. The wonderful weekend is going suicide point. Yes. A place that people go to enter hives air MAC. Well, it's like 'cause it's a steep steep cliff that it's like to drive up there suicide people actually go there. They do though. They do it MAC because it's hard for the authorities. That's where Frank is like way earlier in the book. They're like, oh, cool. Look when we're done with that. I like have a surprise for you in heal. These like, oh, it's the surprise goes point. I'm like showing dick and turns Belinda, and as I can also do all you want. This Costco, simple to Kirkland signature, dick. No commentary. So. So then except for loads. Art. Frank hit on his followed up by instant shocking amount of like the insecurity. Yes. Like massive young male, insecurity, where he's just like, hey, Belinda, thanks to the body. So scared. Fool forever. I I'm not gonna make it in this work. I have a light. And what to get end. This is Belinda is just like now. Terrible. I regret it. If you could help. Just do me a favor of both funding. Calling the king of fools of every would clap too. I wanted was for someone to say no king of kings. Just wanted to say you don't do that bring. You're where you load. You are we see humanity within and nobody's that it. Delighted. Right. Book to the house after this. She's gotta go. Save point at the thorn house, Frank. Yes. So I'm gonna go get Noelle. Who has she? She goes home. Oh, no living and no calm. And she's. Like, my dot is dying. And she's my dangerous fight. He's like my dad is this is where it gets muddy per me. Yeah. And I think this bridges to like the third act of our script here if I remember correctly, and I might be wrong. He there's at least seventeen moments of him going. My father's dying. And then he gets a phone call. And he's like Hello. My father's like still dying Adams says I need to go. Because my father's gets this. Belinda you will not believe the phone just received. He's while. I'm sorry about your fate with hilly woj just remembered. That stepfather is alright it's dying. And Adam just really seats this moment. Feel I feel like I should be there. I think I should be there for Adam ring ring. Hello, Adam says, I should be for Adam because she's dying telegram forms. It's says I need to be the frat him. Stop. Stop now. Sta dying. So that he goes, oh, they get back. Yeah. They go back to his house orange hospital. I'm going to drop you out here. So that you can think about and I'm pretty sure Adams right here. He's Adams out here on the hospital with the hospital don't worry about it. And then a call comes. Oh, it's Adam he's at the hospital. He's almost Ed. So I should go. But that was Adam. He's like, you're fine here. You're safe here. Everyone the hospital, Don, she's like his voice on the phone. But oh, just really quick before. This had happened a little in a launch Linda's like walking down the hall. She sees like a door. Different millions of years ago. Belinda was walking down a hall door open. And she looks in a weight millions of years before that oh she picks up a phone call the cab ninety. You wanna kill the? Yeah. For sure gonna kill that father. Also, this is Adam this is Adam can we just end it now because I'm super annoyed at his continued presence on this earth. And then she's like that's weird. That's a little interesting. Then jump a million another million years. She's like walking on the hall. She sees a door ajar. She's like what is in there? And it's Adam and he and this study he's like Scrooge mcduck in in like paper last will and testament papers. Flying rip in them. Making it rain papers. And she's like, this is very we're she's like, I'm gonna look at that leader. And he's like with Mark. Trying to think of one happy song from the opera, and I don't think. Most school raid. So he's doing that. Because that's the only off. He's going Thornton hills. Do every day. And then she's like, you know, what let me follow up on that thing that happened a million million years ago. Yeah. And then so she goes into the office study area to rummaging through the papers, which are very defined Adam seriously just opened a drawer through them in the air. And then some of them went back in the drawer left, and it was just like cobs here. Just scrawled in red crayon on the top of them last will and. Love here. So then she pulls out the paper and reads it and goes gasp if he dies if FRA if the if the husband hospital million years before this. They are like oh shit. Mum. Never ended up in New York. So back to this New York. And also she talks about she's only in this for the money. Yeah. And it's like if the husband is the will get passed to his spouse spouse is dead. Well to ching Chang. Money. Rains down to them sons Romulus themselves. And so she's like wait a sec it has to be at of now for sure Mmono Adams gonna kill knoll now. Yeah. Because a hundred yes fifty percent. Plus fifty percent equals. Yeah. And so she's like I have to protect Nole. So when she do springs downstairs runs. Yeah. Who run into? Oh my God. I was there. All will. I use his Adam member. No, she's like e Adams here, and then like no-shows inches like Adam was just here. He's like literally pasta. At the hospital talk to him before that happens phone rings. It's cobs Qods. And she's like, oh, Adam and knoll at the hospital with you. And he's like, no, I am with no biological family members. I am here. Watching my employer die at his piece of shits. Are not here. So. Like, we love you so much and they hit up. And she's like, then she starts running. But she thinks she sees Adam like lurking that's weird like Nole on is here in the house. And he's like, no that's impossible. And then she's like in that she hears Adam and Adams like, oh, so I guess she found us out. She's like wait will way. Rip. And he's like. You were supposed to taking care of this already. Yep. Rodham. And she finally sees the two brothers who they are. I here's here's where I was like this would have been shocking if I hadn't realized it three pages ago. They're like we want you to get the car. And then if I correct me if I'm fast forwarding little bit too much out. It gets to my favorite part where they drive to a curvy road, and they go, and she goes, no, please. Just let me go. And he goes doesn't this road remind you of another road still it's not the original that's two hours away. So it's. Seventeen minutes drive. Yeah. But it's but suicide is going on which is a hard place to get up to where people go back. And then she's like, we're not this is in. I'm guessing this is the bad version of what's happening. And they're like, yeah. For sure. And then, but he is squished inbetween them for the whole. Yes. And it is sexy. It is but scare it should be. Yeah. But here's where I was like this is commentary though. That's why we're gone we need there. I was soups annoyed because Adam was suddenly not acting like he was in love with her like excuse me. You're in love with her. And that knoll is quiet and brooding. And I was like okay now, I'm into no. Because he's. No. Crazy like, oh, he's hotter. Here's the thing. I like fighting. They should be fighting over her dulling. I still thought that Adam was a little bit hotter to me. Just because I enjoy more crazy. He's more than than. Yes. But Nole was hotter. When he did get crazy. Yeah. The way it's bad. It's very interesting because it's kind of like with the new Star Wars stuff Ray will always be like, my ace Queen there is for sure chemistry between her and the fact that last night does not end with them being the prince and Princess of darkness as fucking year. E aiding. It's going to have a wrote the script. Inside too. But like that like that like the throne room scene and stuff like that. That was the chemistry that you feel between like her and Adam you're just like, oh, this is it. And then when he's just like, you know, I don't care. I. No. Are you kidding? Like because it was there before this bullshit and ending on. Because he fixed bus. I'm getting rid of all of the evidence. He doesn't have to be like I have to save you. I just want it within that realm where he's just like line need to just destroy. Yeah. Okay. Well, I've gone over the numbers. We're going to put this car in neutral. Plans Clinton was perfect and you ruined everything in my beautiful face. And I was like I'm sorry. Why are you like, oh, I will say I will say that at the very least atom has an ice pick. While it's kinda hot. But he was like he should've been dragging along her face. Like he was that fucking cotton swab because that is the follow up. We. Needed to like like scary tracing on her throat and special. He was no I've been like breathing heavy and her ear. Yeah. Relied luggage. That's what it was just like he's. Speaking you sorry about. Out red. Oh, sorry. But no, I kind of. For travel. Go to New York. On hates going. My step mom though because he is dead. The bottom of that hill. Why this plane is bad? Very bad plan, very bad plant. They need to stop murdering people. The Corcoran original plan your plan to come home. And dad was yes that Adam is picking them up from the airport. He's gonna drive really crazy. But he knows exactly when did you? And so from our, but here's the thing. Sinton's were on the road. Yeah. Up and they got him off by half a second. And that half a second straight up ruined his face. But he does not need a cane. It turns out, no. On. So quite worst day possible of all days. His birthday us like fools, but not that is his birthday young. And he's like, I'm the king of. So thinking fools to a body gets slammed down onto the dashboard or the front. Let's say he is lying prone in the yes. So in the part of the arms, it'll take one action for. Yeah. Because like out cold or something and sir. Toget- unclear. Yeah. It is. I was. Eighty layer everybody way, all the Richie is not writing the red hot chemistry of her an atom and a little bit knoll. She is like Ford. Yeah. This is sort of like with the story and just wants to get through the details. So it's like bodies in the car, including hill dis they're alive. I guess maybe. And they went braid brain brand. Okay. Rate in the mail. And that usually goes wrong phone call. My father's in the which I knew and Balint is like, oh, but could we put a pin in that? Because I ever braid. I don't know where the push pins. And so now Belinda Hilty Frank are in a car that is now in neutral. Yes. Push towards it cliff. It's like oh Adams like, and this is the perfect revenge because this is what you did to us. And it's sort of like, well, but we didn't. And also, you can't just keep going be. Also, also is is like at this point kind of obvious that you have something to too many car were they in Frank Frank. Okay. So it's Frank's car. Okay. Because free was going to go through a hill. The yeah. Yeah. And knows like I tried to Adam that you weren't driving that we should just like be even Stevens about this. Yep. But let me. Yeah. So we're gonna put it neutral and just give it a little kick. And then let nature take its Gore's. Meanwhile, the brothers have a falling out right at that moment because guess what? Adam does want hundred. Cent. Yeah. Shock. Because also, no it was like, yeah, I'm not a psychopath. So I couldn't kill everyone myself. Needs to learn how to cook wanted different way. Yes. Be deal with him later need to do this right now. No polar joker at the beginning. Nine one make look bullet hurtling online. Learn how to. Yes. And then just go through it, and you have to get down into manageable task exactly otherwise, you can't just wait. Yeah. Like Lenny burn he is making any o'byrne out. So it's cool to like chain yourself to your desk, and he just he has the ice pick. And he's like I have a weapon in my hand the gun that have pulled out a gun. Yes. And it's like now to blast you fools away. And Belinda is like, well, I guess is it I guess this is the end of my oh. Woo boo. Boo. That's the sound of the police as I actually up until you said that I was like houses booking. Well, and then Strom the best of best wrong arms from heaven descend strong blue arms. Arms take her out from heaven. This is like reading the gate that like it's really just like something miraculous happy, and you can't quite picture it, right? Really can't. Artists will struggle for the rest of their lives. You feel it hands and arms come from everywhere. From one person one person at one time comes into save. Everyone gets to whom whom could it be could it be? Mr. Just call right? We call. It isn't a comp. It's caught Cobb saves were arrives with through Marco as it is. In fact, him on I believe, yes. No it as you're right. Who's her? It's true in. I I was I was I was really putting this picture together. My mind in my head. They say is everyone everything he opens it from the outside, which means it wasn't long. It wasn't live T pulls everyone out. And then the slowly they watched the car kinda just continue its trajectory in my mind. He gives not a shit about anyone. But Belinda he pulls up, the cups and the other. He's just like. And then we have perhaps the biggest twist to occur in this book. Is this is okay. Naw gets arrested and she's like looking very sadly at all, right? Yeah. And also causes like oh by the cops. Like, I informed the police. Yeah. That's right. He made the call. Yes. He put it together. Yes. Because of the whole thing where it's like, oh, they with you. And he's like, no, I'm here alone. I put together to cleanse going on. I was at the hospital by myself and one time I told you get to the. Things. Goal the cops. So it's a it's a total dais X mock days ex-. Kicks. Known from now. Copy the fucking greatest ending any book because I think we should start of all time. I I want you to read. Okay. I'm gonna read. Okay. It's the greatest. Right. Good afternoon miss. I trust you feeling much improved. Why? Yeah. This is their back at Laura gilmore's. Yes. Yes. Not dragon. But they're there. And Laura does not know what happened happening, but she's very grateful. She's like. Cartoon suggestions, almost I'd she they are. And they're it's her. It's just her and Rory and they're like rapid fire and drinking coffee coping quipping. Okay. Then knock knock knock who's the door. Mr. Belvedere sound of the cops. It's God's I'm sorry. Good afternoon. Miss feeling Mottram proved why yes come in? I'm so glad to see you. I'm not surprised. I was wondering perhaps if I might speak with MRs Swanson, my sure would you like some coffee not. I make T, but I'm afraid it wouldn't come out like yours undoubtedly not than perhaps. I should they steered surprise as cops went to the kitchen surveyed it regally than advanced cautiously toward the dirty stove. Good heavens. Is it safe to touch? Mr. said, MRs Swanson in the doorway behind them. What a pleasant surprise. Yes. Madam cobs acknowledged if I might have a moment of your time. Of course, why don't you sit down? I think I've come for a reason. So I'll make my point my professional opinion is that you're in need of domestic service, like not ready for this. They're you know, mums melts two he'll be invalid looked at each other. And delight. So. Link. Really, no offense intended Mme his is raised in secret Apolo, the messy kitchen, but it so happens that I am presently in a position to often most services, MRs Swanson's expression with some between shot and immune. Well, that's very nice. If you think about Belinda very fond of you, surely, please mom Belinda beg. Happening. Well Healy joined in. We've got a space. But he was sleeping. My MRs Swanson, silence them both of the look I'm afraid we couldn't possibly pay you a decent salary. Madam. You bother yourself with trifles. Mr. Frederick thorn provided for me most generously and his will and salaries of little importance to me what? My former employer has also done by his untimely passing to provide me with an abundance of leisure time and new way of filling it MRs Swanson looked suspicious. She glanced at Belinda and Hilda who are Notting vigorously. Well, I it appears to me that Mr. Linda needs a stronger hand. Blandly perhaps then she would find herself far less trouble. The eyebrow raised the is settling sternly on. Belinda. Everybody wants. A wise choice about her men. This time MRs source and burst out laughing really quick before we get to the hammer drop to say, mommy, men, Mr. Cobb, just you. Oh know, this one's going to Mr.. All right. Don't get to point fingers. You try to date. What of the two murders? I raised. You've chosen a boy when what you need is. Comes to begin filling the kettle she shook her head since he put it that way. I suppose something could be worked out a splendid and Sasha blend said quickly Sasha will have to come to dog. Knowles dog. Cobs back went more rigid than usual and a long suffering science gaped him what men could possibly have a more fulfilled life than I and MRs Swanson lapped, she puts an arm around hill D And lead her into the living room. I mean is he going to come on? Let's leave my daughter with a strange man after other strange men tried to murder all of, you know, don't you have a math final you're trying very hard to flunk. Belinda just Belinda and cobbs alone. Belinda perched on the counter, her smile fading as the just at the stove her mind had been drifting away from her a lot these past few days thoughts battling each other out for space in her head trying to sort themselves out when she looked up again cobbs was in front of her with his hand extended. And it was a handkerchief the initial as stitch kneeling to the corner. Belinda is is filled and she looked up into wiser ones. Let's Mr. knows that he couldn't think of anything else to give you he wanted you to have this. But with no bad memories attack was the way he put it said you'd understand Belinda took it from him held it against her cheek. You know for a while. I thought you were following me help or septa view it just so happens. I was location. Stroke to quite frequently. Astute of you. Did you see me standing side, y'all? Fuck it into. I ate the pizza. But when I do you said, I didn't see any calls for long you cobs. Look slightly annoyed except for the. I told you you mean, you were watching out for me. There's absolutely no need for sentimentality. You know, I was merely doing my duty nothing. More nothing. This. Belinda hap- smile that what book this exists. Just got back from the West Indies, please I need to marry to family Laurie. Jay. J kitty. Okay. Thanks for doing your duty. I mean, she unfolded the neat square of cloth. Smoothed it out full back again cubs. Even after all that's happened. I just keep wishing it was the debts. Cobb said firmly. It's never enough, you know, want some people get a bit of money. It's simply goes to the heads. They need more and more of it. I suppose desperation lead from one thing to another. Belinda nodded press, the handkerchief to her is tried to speak over sudden, choking tears. I don't think he ever really went to kill me. I keep thinking. Don't sign. He didn't really want to she threw her arms around cobs buried her face in his coat heard his horse whisper as she began to cry. Child. Guess cried all out. Soak my chest with those. Daddy's just skin as part. Sorrow? You see I need and you have quite an excess. Call me. Call me demon from the depth of that might lead through high honestly participate in this bit because dripping with sweat. It's about to have. It is about to happen. He was so special. He tried to save me at the end. That's what's going to happen. And it hurts so bad the pain in time. We'll hear do you really think? So. She's. I swear it. Melinda looked up. I'm not ready through hurt nubile teenager after little that was me. That was me. You know, something I know everything. I really love you. Air. You. Case. Kili? This book is. I. Is dot. Send a bit mode of me in a chef's out doing a chef. I know what you're thinking. And you're completely correct. Yes. This author. Did you Sarai for hallmark? Homar? Oh my God. This. I am through. Ching to rest with sweat, and tears. I account lap line get here. And so I'm blasting through the book, and I just. And I just. Hi warn a Luma. I literally flinched while reading. Bus of laughing and wait. I was like well after cobb's is like. I didn't know it could get crazy. Wow. Quite a bit of spare time now that I'm a millionaire which I want to is you'll dishes. I love you. And they're like standing holding each other in the sobbing. In another. As a working? Belong to her as Mr. Cobb lease down. It goes miss, Linda, unify fucking Greider or. I want you to know that I would lay down my life free. And then it turns out he was the. Belinda watching. Like, it's every before every scene in the book. There is a little cobs book happening. You flip. Quickened up for one second. So it's called the Cobb just before no goes in his mom's. I just find it nightgown. There's like they're like. Tour intros of. That is like. Israel's like. His room is the phantom's layer a mannequin doll people. People and he's been. He's been trying both. Is boat down candle river. Fifty silk nightgowns over his shoulder. Trying them on the men. Knows like reaching into the closet to grab that. I'm sure it's in your somewhere. Skin, golden ham for me that we don't really get to see. And we've. We need to the moment where cobbs is at Mr. thorns death bed in the hospital checks his watch. And goes, I think those two little shits murderers standing next Mr. Thorne going. I'm going to. Like murderers. Belinda. You want to stay in. Oh. They're like good as dead. Like he's going to go in like five. And he's like, I must go. Honestly, just dark wing ducks himself out the window. This. Full of cereal and then for lunch. I had water. No. And then for an afternoon snack. I had cold. And then all the way I ate like a handful. Those chocolate Easter eggs covered in Kindy. To talk about talking about this book. Twenty minutes. Oh my God. I think we did it. Wow. Omar. Thank you so much for talking with us. Both of you such an experience. It surely was I my my face is wet from sweat dripping into it. Thank god. I warm I out door voices. Yes. Workout workouts. Please let wyking it's what I love these clubs too. Thank you so much, Omar. God, you have anything that you done this without you. I'm so I said this'll earlier really quickly. I'll say it wouldn't Kelly. I read very slowly in general like if I'm reading pros like I just take my time. Like, I'm not a Russian whenever I get teen creep stuff. I am booking. Rush. So thank you for for for encouraging literacy in the world and me, I'm where you can find me at gonna jam on Twitter. Also, if you like popular music and talking about all the cool things in popular music checkout, popular music, the podcast where Nelson he stimulant for. Thank you for questing. And I said, she is a music genius. And I just got to talk about my love Mandy Moore. And then only swoops in is like the song works with music theory. That's so real fun. Chasa check it out. At least a Boston. We have tons of amazing. Amazing amazing guests that are like local musicians talking about their favorite pop songs. Thrilling so on. So it's a good time. Well, thank you so much Omar for coming on the show. Check out all of his stuff. He's so talented and very funny and very smart. And we have to have an announcement about next week's book, we are changing which book we're reading because a very important movies coming out. Oh, yeah. Week. We are going to be cover. Pet cemetery by king Stefan. Didn't that urkel scene? And this is this is probably the first time that we're going to be reading something truly very scary. Yeah. So I don't remember this book. I'm not even sure I've read it. I I don't think I have because I'm reading it now. And I don't remember anything. That's happening. So I don't think I've read it. I've heard it's very very scary. We've been introduced to academ- worried about the cat. I think we all know the cat that story is called pet cemetery. So we're gonna be talking about that very lighting. If you want to support the show, you can tell the friend telling enemy till family member about our show, tell someone about this episode telecoms telecoms, do you have a cobs in your home butlers that you love and loves you for free and it works for free. Then you're you're you're in your fucking. Of a home. And the org Frank with a brain. Grow up. Can also leave us a kind review on apple podcasts or whatever podcast. Thing that you use on that really is the thing that helps her show the most. If you want to support our show in a monetary way, you can go to patriot dot com slash teen. Creeps. We have a lot of really cool incentives people, and we really do appreciate everybody. That already donates. That's really really important. We can follow our show on everything teen creeps pod. And join the keep it creepy. Facebook fan group. It's a really cool group of people. Everybody's really awesome. I think that covers all of the business. Thank you so much again, Omar, thank you. This was such a trait. Like one of our best episodes. We've two very good for one of the best books ever written ever book. Most amazing. I also like really needed to be FanFest about this book because it's all my God also say really quickly it it's the precursor for game of thrones. And my favorite parts at twilight. Yeah. All right. Why light? So thank you again. To Omar Kelly urine, amazing host Lindsay you are phenomenal. We're so good together. We're really get together. Happy about this yet. Thank you to our listeners and keep it Cobsy. This has been a forever dog production executive produced by killing Nugent, Lindsey K tie. Silio and Alex Ramsey engineered and mastered by Alex. For more original podcast. Please visit forever dog podcast dot com. And subscribe to our shows on apple podcasts. Spotify wherever you get your podcasts. 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Expect Awesome #102 - Your Move

The Expect Awesome Podcast

15:17 min | 3 weeks ago

Expect Awesome #102 - Your Move

"This is the expect awesome. Podcast your source for expecting and achieving also with god powered confidence motivational speaker and integrity doctors. President mr ryan. What's going on everybody. Welcome back this is another episode here. The podcast men. We came off a really great stretch and it is currently the thursday after election. You know. I don't. I don't go political. I'm not gonna talk politics. But i think that i'm gonna address just some life things today. I wanna address something that i think if you take this. I think this could be a really big help for you. It's it's something that's been on my heart for little for a few days because it's something that happened to me. Yesterday i noticed it yesterday and really prompted me to want to talk about today. And you know most of you. If you're in integrity doctors we have a program called the give back movement. And it's this. It's not really a market program. It's an outreach program to allow us to spread the name and the word and the awesomeness of chiropractic. And in that i tell when i when i when i developed the program i created the name off a moment in my office where i was. I've been listening to music. And i was at wrote down all these different names of different titles of what this program could be called in. I didn't like any of them. I couldn't figure out which one i wanted to use. Which one would be best. And during that i was i was sitting in my office. I was just kind of listening to music. And i started humming along and singing on to a song and the song was playing that. It's one of my favorites. I loved the song. It's by tasha. Cobbs leonard and it's called a move and it helped me to come up with the give back movement. It helped me name it Just the inspiration for the song. I felt like it really kinda nailed. What i was going for and it helped me on a concise and pull together about three different names. I'd worked on in combine them into one. But you know. I was listening to even yesterday i was grilling and i had my airpods in and i was listening while i was cooking and and the song came on my playlist and i was listening to it and i was going through it and it really hit me in a different way and it's and it's something i wanna talk to you about today in. That is with everything that's going on in this country. Everything is going on in this world whether it be the pandemic. It'd be the election whether it'd be life whether it be dealing with the. I realized that every single one of us is currently facing some unique tasks and some unique times and things that we haven't really been prepared or equipped to deal with you know there's been more stressed. There's been more anxiety more depression more things that are happening and i feel like even with things like the government shutdowns. There's been this kind of mindset of like almost we're on hold like we're on pause and i think the irony is is what i want to tell you today that i think it really help every one of you is understanding your perception of these delays and realizing what they could be something totally more totally different. Because there's a lot of there's no phrase that you know god's denials god's delays are not his denials and that is a true statement in some ways but i think a lot of times we see certain delays denials where we see certain delays delays. But they aren't really delays. Let me give you just an easy example this. I don't know about you. But i grew up playing board games. You know. I didn't grow up with nintendo. When i was ten. The old the old eight bit kind of deal it they were. They were fun for what it was but it wasn't the way video games were now are now so during all this time growing up i ended up playing a lot of board games and naturally the one that always came up was monopoly and monopoly for the plate or no. You know there's one thing if there's ever a game that was invented that seems to never end it's phenomenally and it's really because it doesn't end until you you know there's no prediction to it. It's not like you can say well it's going to be over when this happens what it's going to be over once there's nothing left to do the perfect example of life. It's there's just no present like if you get to the square it's over. It's not like if you get to this point. It's over at some point this going to be nothing left to do and we declare winner and that's it and that's really how life works and so along that way for me. Did play played monopoly. You know that things happen and they're not always good things. Sometimes you'll land on places you land on park place and you wanna you wanna buy it or your land on a certain railroad track and you by the railroad track and certain things you land on. Certain things are safe but sometimes things are not safe. Sometimes you get sent to jail. Sometimes you win the middle. You win the lottery. The whole middle section. You get to collect all of it. Sometimes you get to pass go and you get another two hundred bucks. Sometimes you land on something. Somebody else owns all sudden. You gotta help saint charles place. You're going to have to pay for that. Something always happens. But here's the thing that is so simple that we forget a lot of times when you land in the spots that you don't want when you land on the parts of the board that aren't desirable parts and that the parts were to find where it's a delay where it's a jail where it's whatever it is. You understand that the next time it comes around to get to move again and you get to go again. Those delays aren't permanent. Those delays aren't even gonna keep you there. You're not gonna stay there very long. And i think one of the things that we do mentally that we have to start. Changing is start recognizing that sometimes these delays these. These stoppages these these sections where we feel like. We have to stop and do nothing. We're going to hold it. We're gonna pause and we're just going to sit here and do that. What if instead of seeing it as a delay in seeing as a pause what if you saw it as a move. There's a song in the song this a move. There's a there's a phrase that toss says it when she's just kind of singing improvising. She says we're standing in the middle of a move. And i really think that is something that a lot of you if you are feeling like. You're in a delay if you're feeling like you're in a tough spot you feel like you're in kind of this pause mode it's time to pause and realize you're not really in a pause. This is a move. It's a move that it's a move. So what if you realized that this this problem this issue this time. This thing that you're facing right now that you didn't wanna face that you didn't intend on facing that too you never planned on and you're tired of your over. What if god put it there as part of the move. What if it wasn't something in the way. What if it wasn't to delay. What if it wasn't a denial. What if it was a move. What if the only way to get you to achieve your purpose and to achieve your dreams and goals was for you to pass through this. What if the only way for you to get where you need to be meant that you had to face what you're facing right now. Maybe what you are labeling as something that you just want out of here and over with maybe it's actually a move. Maybe it's a move that has consequences. Maybe it's a move that has that has impact on something that comes later. Maybe it helps you make a decision that comes down the road. Maybe what you're seeing right now was a setback is really a setup but see your perception of what the place that you're in if you just see it as i'm stuck here or see it as this is just it's going to be my turn again. I'm going to roll again. Get to go again those two different perceptions impact the way you the spot that you're in the impact the way that you react the impact the way that you perceive what this is in. Sometimes i think one of the things that we we do so long as that we get in these spots rather than realizing that god already knew this was happening and you do realize that you realize that god knows who wins the election. You know that god knows who wins the next ten elections. He knows he already knows. He knows this he knows this move. He knows why it's here. You may not you may not you may not understand it but if you can recognize that he's already in control that he'll already knows and he's got you he has got your back. He has got you. He is going to get you through this because he has a plan for you. He has a purpose for you. He has set a vision on your life that you may not get humane not understand you may not realize why we had to take this direction to get here but it was there for a reason but see what happens is so many times only start hitting these points and we start hitting these things that we see as problems and we see issues rather than just seeing them as the next move another move along the way what happens is when the stuff hits us whoever we turn to is what decides whether it's a move or not see if you turn to yourself if you turn to hypotheticals if you turn to just random things out there we have a problem because you're stuck because you can't get there based on you you can't get there based on the perception you have right now but if you can see it as a move take god placed you it that god saw you through. The god knows you're gonna make it through. The god knows that you can do that. You can topic that you can beat it. The god had a plan and he put the plan in place. And you're living it right now and this isn't a stuck this quicksand. This is a move. See if you can get one simple concept. The difference between certainty and uncertainty is who you go to for the answer. That's it the difference between certainty and uncertainty is who you go to for the answer if you try to rely on yourself. The world the news the president whoever it is whoever it will be from here to kingdom come. It's uncertain everything's uncertain. Everything feels uncertain. Everything feels like a problem. Everything feels like an issue. But if you can see it as you know what god's got you. He's in control if he can be for you who could be against you god. Has you right now. And he's got you in a spot that he planned for you to be in any knows you're going to get out of it. He knows you know how to get out of it. He knows that you may not realize what yet. But he knows he wouldn't have put you there if you couldn't have done it if you couldn't have moved you're standing in the middle of a move so realize today as purpose this momentous purpose these events have purpose. They're all there and they all add up to the next move the move after that there will be a conglomeration of moves. The get you where you need to go. Get your plan to get you to your dream and gigi to achieve and experience. You're awesome purpose so recognize it today. You are standing in the middle of a move. I hope this helps you this week. I hope it does. I think it can think if you recognize it or you're at. I think this can be a big help. I'm going to keep this up. We're going to keep coming back matai week after week to kitchen with more awesome this more things more on the horizon to make sure that you were focused on certain t to make sure you're focused on perspective we're gonna touch business stuff we're gonna touch live stuff. I'm gonna hit a whole bunch of different topics but coming at you and i'm ready for this. It's going to be fun. I'm excited for where we go over. One hundred episodes now can't believe it seemed like how in the world we're gonna make it there but were there so if you wanna get check out my book on amazon dot com. It's called awesome. It's great book coffin. It's for kids so check that out. You can ordered on kindle and nook well so check that out on amazon. I'm awesome by ryan que mall. That's a great thing. If you have any questions for me any even a request of something to talk about. Feel free to text me. Send me a nine four one. Two zero two six two five nine or send it through. Dm on facebook. instagram tiktok. Twitter you name it at ryan que mall. That's our way emma. Thanks for listening this week and as always let's go to god before we in this thing and we can all experience awesome this week together. Gotta wanna thank you for today. I wanna thank you for. Whoever's listening to this i want to thank you and i want to hope that you would just blessed not just what this message and not just what these words but i want you to bless them this week and put on the awesome this that they deserve the awesomeness that you've put inside of them and the awesomeness that i know that you have planned for them and their purpose and making sure that the ender stand that they are in the middle of move right. Now thank you for everything you do. Thank you for all that you help us with and all that you bless us with in your awesome name we pray amen. Thank you much. God bless you love you see you next. Time for more awesomeness visit ryan. Que mall dot com or follow month. Facebook instagram twitter. Matt ryan chemo until next time. Keep smiling and remember hugh are awesome.

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EP. 345 - Eddie Hall

Mark Bell's Power Project

1:19:18 hr | 9 months ago

EP. 345 - Eddie Hall

"Power Project Crew. What's going down? This is a huge day for us in the PODCAST Although we've had Eddie Hall on in the past and we've had times where we were going to have him on the podcast in person. Would you know schedules just didn't work out on this date finally did And just in case you don't know who Eddie Hall is. Hall is the two thousand seventeen world's strongest man winner. He is the world record holder right now at five hundred kilos or for us in the states that two pounds over eleven hundred pounds which is insane again. He's the only human being that's been able to do that. He's also been featured on history channel's Strongest men in history. Tv Show and overall. He's just one of the best dudes we've ever had on the podcast. Any is such a likable guy. You guys will see throughout the video. We just all have such a gigantic smile. Because he's making us laugh. He's telling us so much. Good information We we had a blast podcasting with Eddie Hall We get into kind of a bit of his origin story about how he caught a big break in was able to to compete full-time and start striving to be the world's strongest man we also ask him about the mindset that he had he had to get into in order to deadlocked eleven hundred pounds or five hundred kilos and although he doesn't openly share exactly what he was talking about. We kinda got an idea of where he had to go and it was kind of a dark place but he explains that you know. That's what he had to do. In order to be able to lift such a heavy load he also went into detail and explain why he is the world's strongest man. These strongest man that ever walked this earth and after he gives his his reasonings I don't think anybody has any legit arguments against it. Thank you so much Eddie for making this happen in real quick. I'll get out of your guys way so we can start this episode but thank you to. Monte's beef you guys know. It is the absolute best beef on the in. The universe We you know like I said earlier. We went to some amazing steakhouses When we're on this trip and and Columbus Unfortunately none of them can hang with Piemontese stakes. I I know what that sounds like. But Trust me As soon as I got home cooked up some flat iron steaks and I just easily compared the two and it just there night and day difference. Piemontese stakes tastes so much better. It's it's really remarkable what they're able to do what's even better is you guys can actually get them for twenty five percent off. Head OVER TO PIEDMONTESE DOT COM right. Now that's Pie D. M. O. N. T. E. DOT COM at checkout enter Promo Code Power Project for twenty five percents off your order and if your order is ninety nine dollars or more get free. Two day shipping Thank you again Eddie Hall. If you guys are digging this episode maybe. He heard something that he's never said before him. Up on social media will have his links down in the youtube description. And the show notes Let me know what you think us not think. And we'll catch you guys later. Enjoy the show. All right Mr Hall So you you have you WANNA world strongest man and then you walked away from the sport in some respects right and now you still yeah. We're getting ready any young and tell us all about yourself so you retired from strongman going out on top but you still compete right now fully retired so I mean do exhibitions and stuff like that divisions appearances but yeah you won't see me compete actual strong money again my combat and do the team show. But I'm not I'm not interested in going back and seeing what I can do myself because you know that on the pinnacle that's all I want to push yourself as hard as he could. What's the difference in Body Weight? Would you would you way when you're competing versus what you weigh now? So at my biggest I was just shy. Four hundred forty pounds. That's around the time of one of the world's strongest speaks our language. He talks and pounds to think right now about three weeks. Three eighty-five is comfy weights. You know keeping this is keeping the brand able to walk a bow about chafing braff com status. Put my socks on those kind of things. So it's a much better quality alive. Wait what'd you do to lose weight anything in particular So for the F- initially just the cobs out and went very sort. Kito and then I found out that it wasn't very sustainable. Start Again L. Quite a bit after about a year and then just slowly sneaked. Cobs buck ends or do so. Now I'll just have Cobb before training joint training a little bit at dinner. In the evening you know so well controlled with the cobs out. So what's a little bit for you? By the way I mean each male. You've probably talking life. Two hundred grandma cobs. Maybe three hundred knots. Berry Low Mike competing you'd be talking to Kilo cobbs A meal Gateway Towards. Yeah and this is how many times a day what now yeah. I read three or four times. A day whatever's convenient for you probably meal wise probably eat about six decent size portions still getting after yes definitely and then you know not a lot of people know this but it was It's been documented a little bit. You have a swimming background. And what how? How long like? When did you start swimming so I started swimming when I was five years old? My two brothers were popular swimming team on moments assuming teacher so I was in the pull it too so basically to swim at two And then h five up see couldn't really be left at home alone so when the train in. I would go enjoy swimming all the weekends. I'm became somewhat obsessed with the competitive side of of the swimming mainly just because I hated my brothers. Beat me even though but when you aid someone that's a year old can be a huge side differences. They had a massive advantage on. I hate to that. Couldn't stand. It was coming home walking to do to get foster stronger training harder. On by the time I was ten I will the national championships and the entered me into the what they call the will potential squads base. Good the GBI team for the genius and I was in the squad for the best part. Three is and then told the head coach to go fuck himself and offer one. Why did tell me go fuck themselves? It just became so because it became very sort of Olympic standard. Usc Not to do so many hours. Seventy eleven seventy seventy kilometers a week in the pool and I was. I was a spencer. You know even though I warned the fifty meters to the fifteen hundred meters my specialty was sprinting. Fifty meters explosive power and this head coach just two and he's had you know volume is catering for swimming so I ended up going from swimming. Auden Tengku Week to Swing Thirty K. Week and I. It just became on enjoyable forming for fifteen year old kids staring at the bottom of the swimming pool for X. amount of hours a week was not fun so I mean I I was a you know. A deviant child very misbehaved and kept getting in trouble and then I think it was one day stupid. It was very military at a stupid tech system. So if you've got free black ticks you a sensor on tech if you're late for training session tech and of course day one of this system free bought six. I just wanted to see in the office and I said it's Iowa. Tell US fuck fuck himself. That was actually made it. Fourteen years old like fuck off. I'm not interested and that was. Why do you think you were like that? Upbringing or just You wanted to challenge things. I just think that if something was wig and if something's working you know life you radio is working in the car. Would you take it apart and start fucking out in bits to it? And you know you wouldn't would you? And I think that's that was my main source of grievance with the swimming was I was working my times we've got an constantly and then this head coach came along and just grabbed me right back down on A. I couldn't do anything about it because my coach home was being told what to do this to do that. And if you didn't then you took off the squad on you so I was basically forced to do this huge amounts of volume that. I didn't need to do for my specialty. Fifty minutes restyle in terms of you mentioned got three brothers right to two brothers and were they as let it is. You are because like usually that tends to run the family. Yea I mean James. Very Athletic James. Want the nationals. Alex didn't quite make it but he's always been in sports you know he's made a whole life out sport doing physiotherapy and teaching the courses and stuff. James ended up being a professional rugby player. High level played for the Falcons and ended up in Bristol. The last part was career bogeyed his knee and now he's an oval retired athlete in the whole house. Also we've all old. I mean molly's well my mom's Hallett how sporty she does. She used to do the full. Lineman'S THE FIVE K. Swim one hundred K. By ride and then a full marathon at the end of the lions up until probably a year ago two years ago. She's fifty eight now. So the whole family is very sporty definitely. We've all pretty much made our careers out of sports in some respect. What's it like to be part of a TV show? You spend your whole life you know working towards this eleven hundred pound dead left you spend your whole life WanNa world strongest man and you got a lot of recognition for that especially in your hometown. But then people aren't going to know you the same way they're going to know you or you won't get exposure in you get on like a TV show like you guys did. What has that been like? And and do you like like it or Yukon of like halfway resent it. Because you're like man like I'm more than like what we're able to portray on the show. It's a tough one about strongest history. Yeah I mean that was. I thought it was a great show. The history channel on during the season to defend the main reason as you know finally five percent of the population so train you know keep fit keep healthy eat properly that and not not not so stop such. That's the way it is so I saw is only five percent. The population are pretty much going to watch the show. And then how many cents about five percent actually give a shit about trump's bull. It's not about many so I think it did the rounds in the strength weld but I think in the general public from what I gather feedback from the UK. No-one no-one really bothered with it. Where I think so in the UK. I won't UK strongest man and two thousand ten and that's been a televised events since two thousand eleven and every year of one you know when you strongest mom kept I. I didn't take the ACCOLADE. The spurs that fame's just slowly and slowly just crept up very nicely over the years. It's not like so overnight. One Big Brother on become famous. It's been a very nice gradual thing. I suppose become very acclimatized to it in the household name in the UK. Kyle literally cumnock shopping. Contact with kids. Our honestly con- Condo family days out is ridiculous and I. It gets them a the famous hard. We can see the pressure on your tips from being in the limelight is really hard like you. Just off switch your counselor. I didn't really set out for. That necessarily not necessarily really enjoy some of it right. Yeah Yeah of course I mean I knew it was gonna come with the territory you know. You WanNa be the strongest mind you. You're going to be famous whether you like it or not But I suppose that the TV shows of audit to that also domain on TV show in the UK called Eddie America. We've just sold to tackle him. But it's airing in the in the states very soon on a on a big channel. So you know it's just a little bit slow. Just keep adding more and more so recognizable. It's part of the territory. It said this is something you've got a handle if you don't handle it well then you know you're not going to make money out of it so I just take it mistrial. Take it as it comes. I'm always try and be super respectful with the funds book. You know that's not replicated. How do you? How do you manage it? How do you? You said you really can't go to the grocery store so like if you need to do something you get it done. I just have to you know what I need to get the shopping. I just got my shopping. Get in their pitches graphs. But it's it's won't have to be prepared for that mentally going in to what could be a ten minute shop and takes me half an hour and that stocks the reality of it you know everything takes so much longer because you know go get a box of cereal pitcher pickup carton of milk pitch the pitch as long. It's just nonstop. Honestly I mean. I've learned a lot from Arnold Schwarzenegger from Hungary Arnold Quiet Bets and e e put respective it to me once you know you can be as rich is famous for want but if you don't get back to the funds them what have you got really an arnold on his life absolutely loves his life and you see all the celebs that don't live the life you know the rich the famous that every new ones. But they don't enjoy the life and Arnold does. An event is a massive. Take away from that. He's just like go with the flow. Just wants a pet to do a picture if you went off time k security to give you off time. It said there's always ways around things just to make sure your comfortable in life and as opposed. That's the key really making sure that you're happy. If you're not happy then make yourself happy. Mood change something. And what does your family think about all the fame and not being able to go to the grocery store I mean obviously the the wife and kids a fine you get recognized like I do When the web me hates it absolutely hate it. You know if I'm I took my kids to like wildfire it's while wildlife safari and the UK drive through the animals. Get to the dry. Frey was fine and then when we hit the theme park it was like a dinosaur roller coasters and all that and I was that thirty minutes I got to leave because every every five seconds not got a pet Jack Lot. I'm on a family day out but that might seem innocence. Lie It might say it might take you three or four seconds to say no to someone but when it's one after the other after the over after the other you got hundred meters and you've got to stop and tell five or six people every time to say. I can't do a pitcher because my family and then you finally get upset. You know literally couldn't enter the theme park. We had to leave because I was getting that molested theme park ridiculous putting a bad where that one fan now is going to be like dude. Eddie's Dick that's that's the thing you call it when I tell you can be you can say well listen. I'm so so sorry I'm with my family. I DON'T WANT TO UPSET. Atma kids but it's only going to be two seconds exempt. Everyone Bill Maher. Everyone just thinks it's just then you know why all it's only me ask no one else's asking repairs buddy. Listen Up for a second here you know. Make sure your fucking phones not on video like be set you know. Get Your Shit. Get Your Shit Ready. You know like I just took a picture of myself. I like somehow the camera or the phone always goes to the most retarded person in the room. It's like can we hand it to someone who's not one hundred years old. That knows how to operate the God damn thing you know and then they're trying to get different angles and they get an on portrait mode. You like all right. You know settled down already got. Does Bobo my pets taking time out your day to a pitch on one hundred to grandma. Grandma's taking it turns out that does not nice man. But you know for you. It provides it. Provide you guys with a with a life that is probably different than it was maybe six or seven years ago for you so you got to kind of take the good with the bad right. That's exactly you know. I appreciate the funds to give back but this go to off time and I'm afraid when you're out in public off time so you've gotta you know I've got. There's nowhere to hide for yourself. You know a nice big house not secure and I just bought myself away from the will keep my family safe and doing things you really you know. Go for a meal ow. I have to warn the restaurants. Can you please keep people away from me? And I want to date with the wife and go to Fem- parks now off the highest security just to come with just a baton people off to say no. He's not doing pitches of a wise ass holiday doing himself nights out close protection not for protection but just to keep people away from me just so. I can actually have an evening. You know. It's not that's the point it's got to how. How did you meet your wife so I run a lot of these security and in my hometown? So pubs nightclubs never finished. I think I was just doing the rounds one night. Just paying the wages and bumps into the wife and out of a hot TUB party bucket my place so lucky. Little sausage and the rest is history. It how long you guys been together for. So what we're two two thousand two hundred twenty. We probably around around about this time and two thousand ten so ten years married eight years coming up this year. So yeah you guys got some Netflix shows. You're into you get a chance to sit down and watch him. Travel fry probably from Salt Lake PM. Onwards every night with try to you know so thumbs down it. So it's me and her but I always go off not to reply to this guy not five minutes later told story plots this guy and you know. It's it's a very I've actually just as of next month full-time PA so just handle shit like that. Just to give me the time back with the family so I mean TV. Y sorry and we just watched the series stranger things. And I honestly I couldn't tell you. Try and find the film. What about like some of these reality? Tv shows what you guys are. Talking about. Love is lined walk blind lines. Don't start it just CA- watching all the time. But I I haven't really actual long island. Have you heard that I've heard of it? Oh I've a friend that watches that actually looking at where they put they put together or whatever it is basically you know people like ten attendance proper. Yeah Gorgeous. People put them in an island together. all single and. I think they have to partner up with somebody. If you not partnered up with somebody then you have. You have to leave so you always hot. You're forced to be with somebody on the island and it's just it's just sit down and talk absolute garbage but my wife is a slight glued to it. What are some maybe weird things that people might not think Eddie Hall would do like? Is there sitting there watching real housewives Orange County and getting into it or anything like that? I love doing a lot Hoffa Day or a few hours just to sit in and you go online and everything love people and my username off off. Okay Eddie Hall. Ws yes and the amount of friend. Requests UNMASK is hilarious. Do you get a lot of people like do you. Don't even sound like I'll be on the speakers talk beyond you know and then somebody would you fuck in the Real Eddie Hall. I'm on the way how Eddie Hall wouldn't play college too busy dead instagram account. And I'll just follow him clock forty fifty year old man but yet ten year old kids as well but the guys Aachen obsessed with the little kids they talk a lot of shit on their own. Yeah I've been ready to light travel across the cool man. What about movies? I mean you have too much shit going on you got another show come in but we were talking about yesterday like you would be the best villain ever because you'd be like one of the guys that you kind almost root for. Yeah while I there is of quite a few fans in the pipeline and again you know if it's all under contracts are concepts. Have you seen falling down with Michael Douglas? Yeah so it's like one of my favorite movies right good. So basically been commissioned a lead role in a film and it's basically the UK version of no big deal. Falling down is kind of a middle aged man who just like everything just comes unglued all at the same time. You just watch his life kind of spiral down but he does everything that everyone would wanna do but but never does because they would get in trouble in the. There's a scene in the movie where he's on the golf course and somebody says something to him and he takes their golf cart and he crashes on purpose like crashes or he actually he just puts it like neutral shoves it down a hill and it goes into a pond and then the guy the old guy old guy on the golf court are on the Golf Course. And he's holding his heart and he like falls down and he can't breathe and he said now you're gonNA fucking die in those stupid pants. Checkers Golf Fancy. Now that's the weird movie. But it's the last one is when he goes to a Wendy's or something and there's a picture of a beautiful bigger in the box one and it comes out. It's like a slotting pilot shirt. He's like what the fuck is fucking shit pulls out a new mother. Fuckers yours fucking. Yeah he just he just all this stuff surmount loses it completely lose so so basically doing that like a UK based in and around Manchester. The suburbs Just to the story is among the absolute because of the brexit absolutely surrounded with immigration which of immigrants which foreign immigrants loses his job to an immigrant gets in a fight loses sight to immigrants but then it all twists around on hospital basically in this acid. Vernon's face falls in love with immigrant with a doctor and site Bach. It's like fuck one of its own thing but it doesn't matter because he's like what's on the inside but then the twist again in this slot the the the flex which moment is when she's killed by an immigrant and then it's rampage time everyone dies. It'd be like yeah it's like it's very black. Mirror love is blind mix was like Mir. I'm curious about this. Because he metro in two thousand ten. You're competing strongman at that time right. Just I was like I want England strongest mind in two thousand ten. And I've heard you talk about. How much like that like? The competitions took in terms of time from family and obviously I'm guessing year by year. You spent more time concentrating on so I heard you mentioned that you. There's only saw your kids. Maybe wants two hours a day a week a week. So how like? How did she get okay with that? Because at the beginning I'm guessing it wasn't like that but not just continue until you reach the pinnacle. How did that evolve? It was? It was tough. I mean when we first mats it was like you know I had this. I had them vision to be the strongest mono- set the goal at nineteen. Tell debut on all of Media everyone knows chasing this dream and you know she was with me pretty much around. I think just before a woman I English title. She was with me and I was working a full time job so I was a mechanic during ten hours a day. Sixty hours a week and then obviously the security company kept me busy at night so I was working ten hour day. Seven zero five going to the gym training for for four and a half hours and that it'd be home quick shower bite sweet blackout working ten eleven pm till free free. I am in the morning and then bought too bad either. Free four hours sleep at night and buckle up about to work and I was doing that six days a week and on Sundays would just be a false asleep recovery day. I couldn't even open my eyes recovery date to recover from the week. Just go back on Monday morning. Do It all again. It was relentless lot. The amount of hours are put into strongman towards the end. I did end up in two thousand fifty quitting my job. Selling the Dole business for the purpose of becoming the world's strongest man authors hours that I got back from the work in doors and the day job. I just put more strong one. It became a I remember a while back. You know quite forty actually Some kids played knocking. Run on my house a few years back freeing snowballs at my house and I just I had the brain power to Soham coming up the street and it was happening quite often so I got my shoes on ready by the hundred and this noble hair got out fucking about twenty kids. Just this. I'm honest cops finally admit this now to your mom. I beat the fuck out of you and you fucking deserved it. So beat the fuck out of this little kid and just to just to put a statement out if I want the fucking house again. You'll getting fucked up on his fucking managed to get hold of me on. Social media is a sleigh to me on line or less than you know said about a baby in the house you smush kids to smush Emma windows and whatever else and she put. Why don't you try to gain a real fucking job? Your bomb on I. Four you motherfucker why I was. I put into strongmen like when you actually weighed up. You know you talk in four to five hours of training today. Four to five hours of recovery stretching physio hot cold. Kyra therapy shockwave treatments. You know easily about ten hours that then you've got the food. You're eating four five hours a day if you actually put the fucking I was in. Why calculated it. I was working three three three full-time jobs. That's how I sort of. I was putting into this. And then you've got some snotty nose little twats fucking says you just fucking blow your fucking head blow. It's hard for people to relate to how much time it would take to be the world's strongest man did you at nineteen when you were setting out and you're talking about it. You know a few years later did you. Did you really understand it. Nineteen what it was gonna take or did you just kind of thank. You had what it takes. I had what it takes. I'll never forget my very first. We'LL STRONGEST MON twenty four years of age flying out that I was so confident. You know so arrogant. I'm GonNa Win this twenty four nice to have that blind confidence right. It is and so you meet. Brian. Shaw four and big Z. And then you realize like fuck what I what I said. You know one of the talk. Whatever Greg you've said it now you gotTa Bucket. I didn't really hit home until I went to the first world's strongest mine and I realized how big these guys. Aw and how strong are going to be these guys Split yeah the first sort of nineteen to twenty four hours this. You know it's going to happen. But then it fulfilled how quick. What was the change from twenty four to twenty seven? You want at twenty seven twenty nine twenty nine dollars the change there so I mean I quit my job at twenty six and then sold the business at twenty six dot thoughts. Why the change came in. You know I was in two thousand fourteen. I was sick. The six spot in the world and then the thing is it was such a big margin between the top three and then four five six. It was huge talking life. Twenty points and then I quit my job and then two thousand fifteen. I was a full strong on the planet and I think it was eight points off the lead by eight points from winning the wheels. Mine and that sort of year that one year if not working full-time putting more emphasis is the strong just proved that what a difference it made it closed that got massively and then they just carried on from that. I really just kept progressing able to be full-time and dedicate myself to get rid of excuses because like you could use that as an excuse. Like oh Brian. Shaw is Brian Shaw. Because he gets day to be Brian Shaw and that guy's that way because he has this and he has that and then now you put all your chips in and you're like why I don't have that excuse to lean on anymore. That's a very good point. You know it's not something that was a big of in two thousand. Seventeen is not an obvious single. Excuse I remember walking into two thousand seventeen. I was so fucking confident. I was GONNA win it. I'd already spent the morning before I was just so confident and I remember saying to myself just before this last event on I said to my my physio because he he flew out with me. I said you know. What new aware commonness. Whoever confers second attempt for whatever I know for thought I'm the only person on the final that did not a single excuse. Wherever was I couldn't have stood there and said you know if it came second unless by points. I couldn't have gone well a misdemeanor five weeks ago or MR trading session. Six weeks ago I didn't hop for one year solid. I didn't miss a beat. No one fucking beat and that that to me made me super confident person and it paid off. Because I think if you've got the confidence as well as putting the work African you've got it. I've I've heard from some people that like when Brian Shaw won his most recent ones like oh well he doesn't fulltime isn't half to work. It must be real nice. Must be easy. What was harder working three jobs or becoming world strongest man honestly lie in terms of like killing myself? I I would say three jobs with. The training was the hottest time in my life I was easily working a hundred hours a week. Heasley on put in training and go twenty hours of lifting weights. Doesn't leave much time for sleep. All God I was absolutely I remember looking in the Mirror one day and just like the biggest blocking bags under my eyes I look like Shit Bass shaved for you know just a lot and I looked. I'M GONNA die like literally if I kept saying every time. Every night I was coming in from the gym I was getting home at like ten pm after my workouts and everything and I so baby I assume seven hundred kill myself. I just can't take it anymore. And that was every night for like three or four years and then the opportunity arose to to quit my job and I was like fuck it while the wife was like. Don't do it do it. You've got bills to pay about support me and the kids got to. I've got to take a chance. Shows was the opportunity was it just further sponsorship and stuff like that so it was pretty unique. Capri appre unique success story really working all these hours absolutely killing myself and I joined a gym a local gym so like hydro and steam and sole owner an icebox. So join the gym. Tanning beds all the stuff you need. You've gotta you joined the Gym and the owner of the Jan was. He owned the gym and he was scared. That was going to absolutely ripped apart so I asked him meet me before I was allowed to join so I'm the owner of the gym. He will happen to be a multimillionaire very famous millionaire in the areas in the secret millionaire. They do in the states. I'm from Eddie. Go undercover version of that in the UK on the brought me into your plans. What what you doing Jim and I told him you know the community for the recovery. I'm going to turn the place upside down. And he sounds quite fascinating and he was Is Is from Pakistan and his dad was a strong man and his village strongest famous in Pakistan and then he emigrated to the UK with pretty much nothing but only in biology in his pocket and became a multimillionaire and it was just like a real big success story and he said you know he's only various today through the kindness of of the UK. People people giving him opportunities giving him chances in life and he basically said. I'm going to give you a chance I'm GonNa give you an opportunity. Quit your job and I'm Gonna I'm GonNa Buck you bills wide. I'm GonNa pay all your bills. Make sure you're funded. I'm GONNA give you five years on. I saw him in the eye. And I said I'll do it and free shipping on what it to office later so he paid like your rent or mortgage or what you gave me enough money to pay my mortgage pay the bills. Give me some money for food on the said they go off. You Go do me proud on you. Let the heathen became my manager. So He's been my manager ever since Stella's now one of my managers and within six months he got me a number of sponsorships and was able to. He didn't have the pay minimum any more money. And just I'll be a manager and I'll take a class and that's what that's the way sense so he's don't be very proud. It's amazing what would you have to say to somebody? Who is maybe like? I think when we're younger sometimes we're like you said like I'm going to kill kill myself. I can't take it anymore. But what would you say to someone who's younger? Who's like waiting for someone to save them like they're hoping for a situation like that like that doesn't normally come along and it only comes along to those that are not even seeking it like you weren't really necessarily necessarily looking for that you were just working your face off right. Yeah Yeah I've been asked to keep your head down. Where called them things do Commu- away? It wouldn't necessarily be in the form of a millionaire but it could be in the form of a big voting protein company over drinks. Come grant all you know could be anything to do with the SPOL- wants back you? But once I signed with my manager that the deal that came in on. Us like sixty seventy thousand USA. We're not very good. The Bay job and then he doubled that within six months of equipped him a job so I was doing zero hours and earning double the money pretty much and and it just went open up from Nice I can just put it down to being yourself. You know having a personality. I think he's what sports you got a lot of guys that you know win. Big competitions in an and I mean this to people from the UK Jamie Reeves Guy. Taylor both won the wills congressman and both went back to full time jobs afterwards. And it's like you can't be that person you know you've gotta go to win a title and utilize it and I found that having a brand gave me the needle these opportunities and now we're talking three years after world strongest man. I'm still right in that. Wave harder than anyone you know. I'm I'm fully on top of it on board going on the birth. Having a personality I think is what separated from the rest being able to being a people person as well always giving back to the funds always trying to respond to people who wants to pitch. And you've got to do it. I don't WanNa spurlock crop. You've got to do it. I mean it was the brand that separates me from the rash of the beast on all the beasts and two thousand fifteen in Ohio in Melbourne. On the Bee's that was the big the chip on your shoulder. Maybe has been removed as well like from winning world. Strongest man from doing eleven hundred was just like Oh man now I can like not be such a Dick People like. I don't know if you were before I was. I would imagine that you would be right at least a little bit because you have to be especially over athletes. I was an absolute Martin. Less is said to me the other week I have a management world. I think it was fifteen or sixteen. Apparently to him slapped on the buck is what you do a in. He's just like you move a focus propagated in people's had all the time you know pulling tricks on Brian pulling checks on four big Z. Just being just being cheeky cowards. Really just getting on the roads but being for it I think was the key not taking it too seriously about some good for over. The years wonder a lot of people when we had you on the phone. I think like a year ago and those right after he had pulled. You're dead lift. I had asked you like man. If somebody chips they just barely beat you you. You didn't say that you would come back. Maybe you did. You said it would. Also maybe it was a hard decision to make at that time when I asked you. Is that decision way easier now that you're a little bit further removed from all budget if someone was to come and pull five hundred one kilo? Good luck to him. It's fat like you know if they can do it. I know what it takes. I'll be the first one to come up and shake the hand I will because I know what it takes. What a will say is we'll record rental by one kilo a year for the best Paul Forty years and then in one day I added fifty seven kilos to that so I did something special audits in real special. That'd be like somebody running eight seconds in the hundred meter. I mean what about UCLA perspective? Right someone all of a sudden runs fucking eight seconds. Yes they say. Chirac knocking off his record pretty much. Yeah I just feel like you know some moment to break it by one kilo. It's it's a bit a bit. It's a bit Kathy. You know it's GonNa break it. Break it like a month. I can't be naive enough to say that. Nobody's ever going to break it because I believe there are people out there that come break. Oddly full can break it Ozzie. Got The genitalia to go out and actually get it done which we'll see we'll see I. It sounds like to me that you're a believer in like the law of attraction like you you put it out there that you're GonNa die. You'RE GONNA win the world's strongest man and all these things can happen to you later on that I think got attracted to you because of what you were putting out in the universe even like the millionaire coming and kind of helping you out so are you. Do you live your life that way. Yeah I kind of do you know I? I set goals very vocally whether it be internal. We're friends in the gym or whatever family. I'm very vocal person. You know for say a lot. Now I'm chasing Hollywood on the. I'm going to get to the movies. I'm going to do the teams again in the TV side of things and it's happening and I remember what a quick we'll strongest man. You know a lot of a lot. The Organiz do not gonNA feel following in the footsteps of Arnold and go and chase him about Hollywood get into movies and a name names but somebody apparently bist laughing at not comment and they were corrected very quickly. You Know Eddie. Whole he he. He sat to become the world's strongest man. He said you know you have to wait fucking hard for that hundred to you and I. He will do exactly the same going into that field and the completely right. I've been doing window teen lessons now for the best part of three years of London to TV shows One of them coming onto a second season on the lead role in a film. I'm doing a huge production documentary on Schwarznegger over bits. And Bobs in? Hollywood is wild Talk about so it's happening. You know again very vocal about it and the Conor McGregor. If you say something and fucking back it up of Wasi Luau Dick any this come from your childhood or anything like that or like where you have good parents that allowed you to kind of dream or actually sent the my. My parents actually very negative. I said I was going to be the strongest Mon- When I was five years old and is best. I'll often literally and so consciously I remember that I don't blame them you know. It's all jokes and giggles but subconsciously. I remembered that and it stuck in the back of mind you know. Growing up into adult My brothers as well you know having two older brothers I think was a huge thing that made me competitive side with the swimming. I've gotTa beat my bras swimming then. Surpassed them in the swimming and they were replaced with The Michael Phelps the focus. You gotTa beat then. And when the swimming Soa went to shit there's big brokers then became Brian Shaw. In half or exe- I've always saw lot repair replace. That competitive monster really kept tracing some thin and now believe it or not you know my competitors now all the you know sort of Arnold Schwarzenegger's saloons slams the rocks maybe entrepreneurs stuff like that. Yeah Yeah Yeah I mean. Business is booming right now gone only businesses and ruling very well and just signed to do the honor classic. Uk at the NEC and one of the biggest expos. In the country with Arnold Schwarzenegger in two thousand twenty one. So I mean you know fifty fifty business Schwarzenegger that is something. I would never say it was a five year. Old Kids Weird. Right watching the terminator watching on E. Walk-in both naked. Get the Shit Out. Twenty five year old kid joy in the fall. And it's not now I'm in business with the guy and it really is surreal very very sort of very weird but as far as everything goes with act you said he started three years ago so that means you started like was it right after you won or pretty much. Yes so within three months after won the world strongest man. I see nothing coach. Been do not take lessons and now it's like in the back of your head before that too. I'm assuming pretty much I mean all again auto put it in perspective for me. You know you've got to know when your time's up you win the strongest man. That was my target and for me over the winning it six times. What can you do with this bowl will if you went to times? Don't give a shit. Let's be honest with ourselves. Slight Brown's Brancheau fairplay. Brian phenomenal awfully. It's one of the strongest bond four times but I don't think for me. I think he could have wanted the once and then rode that wave and kept going open open open and become e could have become a a huge superstar in the states. Actually huge. He should be presenting the Super Bowl. He should be in movies and he's not because he's kept in the strong game. Strong runs great. You're trapped you are. It's an sport. You are trapped on a put. I speak to on a last night. You've got to have your brain switched on you. Can He did the Mitch Olympia? And then you gotta you gotTA switch. You've got to change channel. You know you're GONNA put all that energy into something else because you can't be Mr Olympia for the rest of your life. You want to know when your time's up and ride the wave somewhere else. I love what you're saying here. I see so many people trapped. We see it in all all strength. Sports in bodybuilding and stuff to wherever we call them. Yeah guys get. They get trapped in there for too long in in. You did a great job knowing when to switch gears from swimming. Then knowing when to switch gears from strongman and now you're doing acting and stuff like that so I think that's great What is the most challenging thing about acting? It's fucking not easy right. Yeah exactly I mean. People think it's easy people think shitty actor and they don't really even know what they're saying. Oh I mean people just think you're reading a script off of office screen Nomo. You've got to let him body language. You GotTA learn how to release you emotions. You it's team for me is about reacting so easy to learn a script to menu city underst- realized her but a good to will react. You'll say something to me and I will process right and I'll react in my way if you're just reading. Lines Bach. Thanks you doctor. It's about it's about reacting acting as the number one tip and give anyone in that tomb world. It's react to what you hear there. Just repeat what you knew it was coming out do you? Kind of watch and study. People like not not even necessarily actors but like if you if you watch the way people react in real life to certain things and you can apply that into acting like maybe you just notice how someone reacts to text message or something. Then you can kind of pull guy recognized a lot of stuff. I'm not really into like acting or whatever but I am into film. I love watching movies and stuff like that so I just I'll recognize as a person or sometimes when someone is is a real character and they emphasize stuff a lot. I'm like you couldn't you couldn't pay or you couldn't train someone to act the way that. Guy's act and react. You know exactly that one of the hottest scenes of Dome Mountain so far was pretending to be a father whose wife just had a baby and she was dying of cancer and she was in spell wash. It was so registered in the the name the child and I hope this pillow hold the mic up a little bit more. I took this is up to cramping and sought pretend. I had a baby in my arms. Compensation of Hama wives dying of cancer. And this little timmy. To actually fake cry nail that offers a big step for me. You know releasing emotion that was probably the hardest things about to do is like on camera sort of release emotion and cry on. Cue was really tough book. I feel like after nearly three years of it. I'm getting now you get to the point where it's all coming together. Now what about the opposite? Maybe like a script asks you to like to start singing or something something where you're like. How come embarrassed to do this? I think if that came about then like benefit I'll take it seriously gonNA hire a singing coach and get to get your best shot. The big guys. They always get like killed off early and stuff like you have your limitations on what you would accept as like a role like sometimes they make fun of the big guy you come into the room and everyone thanks kick. Everyone's asking you like slip on a fucking banana. Even while I'm good positive a guy called mind forward. You never heard the name before. And he's just a big part and the new fast and furious franchise of light one of the you know what are the polls working alongside and in the show people under me and I both went for a Paul in a film? Not So long ago and He told me softest audition for this. Paul in this film said the name off the same. It's not like a soldier's anyone here where these basically it was playing the part of this soldier. The likes of a soldier what he wanted to know. I was just like these. Like get what you're given like that role wouldn't be that I think you just gotTa take a bit of a relaxed to the acting side. You know if you if the producer wants to go and then be prepared. You know. I'm curious about this because In that video you talked about in terms of the eleven hundred pool. You hired a psychiatrist. Who who helped you visualize something? I don't I don't know exactly what it was because you were kinda vague on exactly what you had to go to but has having a force yourself to do that. Does that help at all with where you're trying to go right now and acting and I'll do you have to use that type of y'all hundred percent. Yeah it's channel into sort of memories and even make memories up to change emotions as as something that I learned during the strong gain an training as well. You'RE NOT GONNA be that with training partners joking. Giggling taking the past token about birds flip literally. It'd be like right forkhill on the ball boom boom boom and then in the room and he's like oh it's fucking a good laugh you know. It's just it's not you live. That was strongman. You've got to be able to flick your emotions very very quickly. And that's why I found out in quite easy in that respect because I've kind of been doing it my whole fucking life with strong walking into the RENA. It's not Eddie. All Walk in the beast and you turn into this arrogant sort of very confident monster strut around showing off his bollocks. You know swaying like John Wayne during the during the CO wrote symbols to four. And you know doing all that kind of stuff that is you know in the arenas that as a very very fun to transfer that over. Actually onto a cameron in scenes. Anything ever happened with the wrestling. The pro pro wrestling approaching. Vince McMahon or anybody like that AAA though I mean after a one of the world's strongest man. The was some compensation but it just. It wasn't for me. You know a lot of travel and it's the money the money it's Li- the Leeann isn't that far above right and for the work that you'd have to put in for the wrestling to get that same to a lot of work it's more it's more than people. They're great athletes who've incredible admiration for the wrestlers. Sly INCREDIBLE ON THE ROAD. Best part free hundred days a year four shows sometimes the training the travel. Yeah that'd be absolutely a brutal yeah. I saw a video of you a long time ago and it was one of the videos where I was like. I'll shit like this guy's coming like this guy's GonNa fuck people up and it. Was you think you were doing four hundred kilos and it looked like you were in like a dungeon of some sort like you were just like lifting in the in the corner of the gym and you did the weight like insanely faster? I remember how many reps he did. But you just like you just kind of like pump. The reps like you didn't even really like lock them out. You just kind of move them around a bunch and then you lock the last one out and then you drop that I think and then you put it down how he put it down. I think then you just like laughed like a complete madman. Do you remember that video? Do it was the very first time of poll. Four hundred twenty kilos of and that's what you want about nine hundred plus pound right and I pulled it speed rap remember push pause the top left pocket because I knew that was like that was statement but then that was a statement standing up as fast as you can stand up. Stand up this chair with four hundred twenty kilos in your hand and I've got this. That was pretty much. I mean that was maybe a few moments before the very first world record attempts against the one dropped a few months before that. And that's when I saw a new. This is this is my talent dead lifting something. That's became my thing and I think before that I saw you a little smaller like you're in. You're in good shape. I mean you. You looked amazing but I think when I saw the video of Eupol nine twenty or bigger too and I was like Oh. He's like he's go. He's going all the way in you know. Was that around the time that you start doing strongman fulltime as well. I've just before so it was actually the weekend pulled the four sixty one and dropped it. That was the weekend I never went to work because that was my sort of final decided. I was talking with a manager at the time equipment. Job Take the risk and go and chase this dream and then it was pulled for sixty one and then given the down signal and dropped was disallowed the left. They went from earning sort of ten grand prize. Money to Nova Scotia and it was a big kick in the balls can hundred hours a week and whatever else and I just thought to myself why the fuck. I'm doing this why I'm killing myself while I'm a. I'm a working a hundred hours a week and training twenty hours a week just to pay money to go entertain people and that was a lot to flick switches. Do I quit my job and go for this or do I quit the strong mind and concentrate on my job. I just saw. I cannot with until I'm sixty five. I cannot be norman a conduit so that was the weekend for fuck it not set. I'm job so miguel business and that that's the weekend came full time. I think maybe a lot of people are missing. You know they hear you talk about the mental game and will jump into that in a second but I think sometimes when people see someone like yourself and they see you start to read. Some of these levels are like all. That's that's genetics. It's a combination of genetics. And and he just he just probably trains his face off all the time he turns us off and it gets in there. Just trains like a madman. But you know a lot about training and who knows better about dead lifting than than yourself how able to continually increase your dead lift. Because most people they'll they'll get to a six hundred pound dead left or seven hundred pound dead left and then it just tapers off. They have a really hard time making progress. How you're able to go from seven to eight to nine through one thousand through eleven hundred through places that no one ever even thought was possible before. It's a tough one. I mean I'm D- bolt improve the world wrong when he pulled a thousand pounds and I think it was just sort of sewn show me an article once about Andy Bolton the before that somebody I think somebody put a million pound prize money. If anyone ever pull a thousand pound dead left in my lifetime. I'll give him a million quid. And that was published article and the Minardi Ball and pulled a thousand pounds. This guy disappeared off the planet. Earth you know and Dot For me. It was just not not magical number on a fought to myself when I saw it pulling out towards the thousand pound mark. That was Kinda lot limit for the human body Kandhamal than this and then I never saw a year into the training. And it's like I'm going to speed wrapping the world record now. I'm standing with four hundred and fifty Kilo Mohammed again as fast as you can stand up power chair and I suppose that was the site. Tom Sullivan do now. Today is saying new standards. Like where's the limit? Some YOU'RE GONNA get for seven. Hundred pound is just like you. Just go with these things I suppose for me. It's goal setting. It's like yes I've always wanted to be the world strongest man and I've always chased that having little goals on the side helped me progress a lot quicker and if it was one of those I I've hit plateaus like everybody else think. For years and years and years I was stuck at four hundred and twenty kilo and then fucking horrible dead lift not for. Probably the best part of four years wouldn't go any higher and then it's took a step back as I wanNA doing wrong y. Concept progress has got to be a reason to Cassatt boxoffice. Jack My Technique. Call a little bit. You feet moving and experimented experimented. Yeah and then. And then again. In our site surrounding myself with a decent team and they explained to me the fast twitch fibers slow twitch fibers. And how that would recruit dad left. And basically you've got to train those muscles individually so if you don't train you fast twitch fibers then how you ever GonNa get explosive power so then I took a step back and start doing speed reps doing fifty six percents of Max and just as fast as you can for me to be and that was just creating that sort of power off the floor. And that's when the deadliest criminal record went from one year I went from four twenty two four sixty one and one year and then from that it took me two years to get from four. Sixty two five hundred. Do you think you like did more in training or did a little bit less than training. I'd say it was a weird one because basically I do a week of speed and a week. A heavy on C. Flip flop back and yeah yeah whereas before it would just be every single week Coleman and much every single week I was coming in and pulling four hundred twenty kilo every week and at time was the best thing you can do to get strong but then notes that the human body cannot recover from maximal. Dad Left within ten days so every seven days especially for your strength level is yes so every seven days I was going back in and just rip himself ripping myself ripping us off almost going backwards sometimes and then realized that I've got a I've got a that's why the slow twitch and Fox which came in so one week I would train super super heavy trading the slow twitch fibers and then next week. It'd be the speed. Wraps trading the Fox twit fiber so watched ones wiccan? There was resting not treated at tweeted. The frustration slow to two totally different two totally different muscles. It's almost like having a almost like having two sets of hamstrings. That's how I that's how I envisioned a lot this one's doing twitch twitch doing slow to it training want one week in one way or the other. Do you think when people ask you about like sets and reps and kind of like The nuance stuff. That there may be missing the bigger picture. You know they ask you because I get questions like that. A lot of people say hey man I got a question. I was think it's going to be some cool like life question and I can help them. Get out of a jam or something like. I'm really struggling with my bench like I can't lock out shit you know and I'm like Oh my God I kind of think. There's sometimes missing the bigger picture. You gotTa feel that way sometimes. Yeah I think people don't quite explain to you know he's breaking it down and I think that's what you're GONNA do. Sometimes if you're stuck in a row take us that. Bach and Erica. You know everyone can lead even me. Now I'm still learning new ways to train and improve myself on. I think people got into this sort of stigma of I've learned it now. Non Are the best of them's GONNA stick with us. No one's no one's bit too big not to lend some new and I think that's the case. Take a step back and and be willing to learn new things and try different things. If I didn't have the attitude of trial and error you know of why willing to try different things than I would never have done. The five hundred never will strongest man if I had a cat coming in every week in doing four twenty. Four twenty four to twenty matches published before twenty along with that speed. Was there anything else. You had a two year training. You said he started training. Smaller muscle groups was by doing speed workers it by adding different types of movements. I would say altitude Ma Squat as well so one week of it. So do a wide stance squat in the novice stunt squats when we would be safety. Ball won't be wouldn't be normal. Baugh one week would be like press. One would be hot hot squats so thank it was for me. It was again. It was like training to the inner and outer of Your Quad. So every week I was doing like super heavy squad so every Single Week. Coin and do in a free engine. Sixty kilos squats. I didn't realize impounds gloss more eight hundred. I don't know closer here. Yeah and every single week again. I was committed in everything that we can do in eight wraps with eight hundred pounds egg roll. No knee straps squidgy. Trainers know belts just doing that every single week and then it was like again. Take a step back. You've got to switch off. So then that became. I would do eight. Wraps eight hundred on the normal squat and then the next week? It'd be six renovated on the safety bar squat and I saw and I felt the difference like one week. The Outer Quad would hurt. And then the next week the inner and then it's the same as the deadliest training to different muscles and it's not ten days concept. Your body cannot recover from a heavy heavy lift and ten days. That's the fought to you. Have TO SWITCH IT UP. You have to train you know trainer outer whatever the fast twitch slow twitch. Do you remember what your calorie intake was during this time? I'll fucking how I mean. I never actually saw wrote it down to eight. Whatever it wants and easily. I mean very easily twelve thousand calories a day. That's why no problem some days. Fourteen fifteen thousand it was just about is again. That was a fulltime job. Getting the fucking expensive as well. I know you talked about this quite a bit but let's shift gears and talking about that mindset that made you champion and the mindset that eventually took it out eleven hundred pounds as you were saying. It was way above previous records and stuff so how you don't hiring a sports psychologist. I believe that's what you did right and and in doing that did that like on. Lock some crazy potential that you that you didn't have access to before I thank. It gave me the sort of capability to have a bit more. Reflect everyone's gotTa flicks which you know you could be in the gym joking around training your pals and then doing expansion. Everyone's afflicts which let's go see this now boys everyone short so everyone egging you on and I was just able to add onto that flick switch. I think that you know when referee Whistle Blows. And there's lot right go ahead. Monk's left all running awaits. Whatever your Adrenalin pumps you. You don't think about any phonology just thinking about those weights no finance and but there's ways to add to that. I could turn not I tend weights and to my child you know and I've got to lift weights off my child in order to save a child in those are the sorts of things that you know you'd be getting in Mahad walking into left. I've got to pull this bosses possibly con because my kids would onto the wheels or whatever you know it was just little tricks of the mind law. I mean that was a special one monies to again. I don't WanNa get too far into that. 'cause I'll get really upset. Book creates a scenario in had where someone was doing soap into my kids and it just lit me up like I fucking. I never forget this is like when I pull the five hundred. I remember staring at the referee. And just saw twisted tune the referee into this fucking dabble and I just remember staggering new angry lot. There was no human on the planet that could have stopped me from fucking killing. That guy wanted to that day I would have. I would have plowed for two hundred policemen. I was fucking raged and I just managed to get myself so dope and then it's like boom you're the fucking devil and strap onto that devil ridot fucker up and that was that was a very very weird and unique thing for me to do but to meister not was fucking hard like because it's not something you can do very often. It's really weird. Because you can put yourself in a really weird spot like you were saying. You get upset. I've done that before where I've made myself. `I hysterical like I almost couldn't breathe. Yes and I didn't even fucking do anything you know because I got myself so wound up even even got myself to cry. Yeah I'm like Oh shit whatever whatever touchdown right there that's not good either fucking back. Yeah Yeah Yeah you'd far thing. If you think about the wrong things then that can I can have a very detrimental effects on lifting. If you're walking into a deadly thinking about flowers and fucking tatty buds. Then you're not going to do very well if you'll thinking about killing two hundred people in a fight then you you're gonna door so when you were like having to practice this up to the eleven hundred. Was it more. Guess severe when you actually did that lift because you practiced some guests. You've practiced at deering lifts to wasn't no. It was something talking with a psychiatrist. It was very light right while. What makes you angry? You know? Walk Wall what drives you in life. What you love the most just so digging it things finding what what made me tick and then we found that tick box. We found something that would funds majorly obsessed with in love with and that's my kids. They all the number one thing in my life and then the psychiatrist. I touching on the little scenarios with them. Oh if this happened I would you feel on a my fucking kill them? Then you add anyhow feel that let me go to scenario. I was just like fucking shaken and on a couch to slide and the psychiatrist. Okay calm down calm down. We've found it there. We go and then. It was just like channel in not one sort of scenario little bits every week every week when I was dating my dad left and training just a little bit not getting to Ondo but just right okay we go and then as we got closer to the competition that for protesters got stronger and stronger and stronger until on the day. It just became a reality. It became slide what I was lifting that way. Y'All use zoom in on my is like I'm not in not fucking arena. I'm I'm elsewhere on Hamas left in that way in Moghadam on lifting some been ron as someone else if you would died from the lift you think it'd been worth it because like he'll kinda sounds almost did like he had blood. Come out of your eyeballs and ears and stuff right. Yea couldn't see current advisor scare us. Yeah it was pretty pretty harsh. You know the I think it was more so not the actual lift the the the the complete arrogant holiday at the top of the left. And just avenue that Luke around like fuck the world. You're old you're fucking wrong. Because the the hating so negatively got around. The five hundred was quite high. Promoters over strongman. No one believed that could be done so that was a very satisfying moment. Stunning the top left. And just smick into those people. Really Fuck you you it is. Do you think anybody else will be able to tap into that type of mindset? I'm sure people are capable. But do you see anybody that right now is you know. I don't know I mean for me to pull the five hundred. I mean. I've said this many times is that in the lead up. I couldn't pull up of four sixty and training light. I and I didn't really try try to before eighteen months and failed. It is a slow fucking. It was just popped in my head to do that so I believe that the feary most athletes and they have access to send percent of the muscle fibers starts fact anyone that can tap into that hundred percent of the muscle fibers. That's the mom that's GonNa do some damage in the world and I managed to do that. I I believe the time physically. I was only capable of lifting. Four seventy four seventy five. Something and I was able to tap into that side of the brain to reduce release the adrenaline go to that margin get upset muscle fiber treatments and lift the five hundred. As anyone. Like four's Ir. I believe that full is stronger than me right now. In dead lift. I do believe that. But having the extra edge to really tap into those muscle fibers to get five hundred house. He got that. I don't know you know that's down to him as an athlete. It's a tough thing and you didn't have kids. Would there have been anything where he could build up in your mind? That would have got the same place. A call couldn't really answer that I don't know how could have to not with my wife. Mama Dada brothers. I don't know I WANNA but gap but Mackenzie was a very you on everyone. If you've got children you'll know what I'm on about. That's it you got that connection in your in blood you've watched those kids grow up. They all your wife. Nothing else is really you ever going to get a real job or you're gonNA be a bomb what I'm going to carry on being a bump. The Restaurant Switz- feels pretty good. How do you deal with negative comments? Because you mentioned that that comment from that mom kind of bugging you a lot. Sounds like you've utilized a lot of it as positive energy. Yeah definitely you know any any negatives in my life I'll off boundaries you know someone says you can't do something it's like another another piece of coal and that fire took me go out and do it. The five hundred killed was the prime example. You know it wasn't just the General I put on facebook and the action is actually quite funny then if it was everywhere you know everyone was talking about it and I would say ninety five percents of the sort of following rely. Nah talking up his is not gonNA happen. I know for a fact that promotes didn't believe it can be done. All the strong man believed it can be done every. There's not one strong on that. Said he's GonNa do that. Not fucking friends and family. I think they put the face on a day you can do. Is anyone still Bam aside. Let you get smashed. This there was no one you know not wife. No but I think she'd say it she would support it but it was like no you know in like then the person I would say you actually truly sort of bought me was my training partner Luke. Fullbrook he was fan and I remember it was. I mean it was three weeks before the five hundred and a powerful fifty for speed rap and he just went he just like an Chad was just shaking his that may yoga. I fell and smashed up five hundred but it took until three weeks before for someone to go. You're going to do this. And it meant most quoting from a training partner because he neither blue smoke on my boss. He never once said something that I knew. It wasn't capable of doing and not one comment from him perhaps gave me that little bit more confidence to sort of walk and you know. I can do this now. Look what he did for the dead lift? You know if you look like Alaska maybe two three years or so. Since you hit that record I think maybe last year there was like five or six people doing over thousand pounds. Yeah that's amazing you created that. I think that's awesome. It's it's definitely a raise the ball intellectually and the strong willed and I mean it's like four nine four is going for this five hundred kilo. Dad Left we wouldn't even be talking about that. If it wasn't for me people would still be thinking it's not possible. Roger Bannister as yeah. Yeah Yeah so the first month. Run a four minute mile. Yeah it was and this is this is reality. If you google it everybody exactly the same as me an idiot. What a decade. It's impossible by deluded motherfucker. He did it within two months. Three over people De Years Fifty high school kids and stuff that doing. Yeah Yeah Yeah exactly. It was just one month that gave the sort of world the belief that it can be done and I did that with the dead lift so I made it. I made people believe that can be done. Not Intend takes everyone training off a pack and as you say thousand pound dead lift now. Just popping up everywhere. The normal thing is a thousand pound. Lifton strongman now and who knows know maybe ten twenty years from now. Maybe five hundred Kilo talked about as a normal thing. You just don't know D- last week. We had a poop story POOP story for us. He said you can't be dead. Lifted nine hundred thousand pounds and eleven hundred pounds without having some problems here and there especially with the amount of food that he eats. You have any Any new news on the poop stories. Not Not really. I think it's quite regularly you yourself in the light breasts. Us quite the norm. That is normal. That might be your normal. Let's be honest guys. Come on it just POPs out and leaving is when you're on the leg. Press but Little Maltese. It's like a two hundred Weipa because it just goes fucking it? I don't know about it. Turns into a color insult acres. You fucking backside. And it's not good. But I'm of the belief that a maximal left unless you pass out Osha yourself then you didn't try hard enough. You didn't have enough weight on the bar. Yeah and I did both so just say so. You talked about earlier. How Shasha one took off. So He's won. Multiple thors won multiple. You've won because you were the first to pull that dead lift. Do you think that you are able to walk away because your legacy is said because I think that's why people hang around too long because they want to be. I want the most or I've been special to say the one that something special to say. Yeah donate let's fuck off. So do you think you've done enough for your legacy? As far as an athlete I think so I think I think I've I've become the budget. Balancer strongman literally. You Know I. I've set stunned now for everyone else to chase and slight. Do you remember the second month to run a four minute mile was on and I always say that some people connor the Americans men near the ensemble than UK? Where who who's the second man on the moon when you might know the answer to that but a thousand years from now five years from now? Are they going to remember the second on the Moon? All they fuck. They're remember they're going to remember Armstrong you know and not reality and I think that's that for me that was that takeaway moment for strongman was Li- op donated offset stunned of I. I believe that that dead lift as potentially set me in the stone as one of the if not the strongest one in history and if people want to argue that then come and fuck in Pall Mall calling fucking shammy out to do with them in kind of finishing up. I know you're you enjoy your time here in the states. You're here often But what's something that annoys you about America or abby some that chapter your ass? He's a star. He's got a whole list. Get all written out. It's all it's all or maybe even what's what's major differences between where you live in food really foods over here not say no one knows how to be fatter than us. Yeah exactly that'd be. My only difference really would be the food. You know the people just as nice and Getting a bounce. Great America's got more of a feel feel free failed to it. I think it was in Florida last year. The strongest mind riding around on a Hollywood about helmets music blaring. And that for me like you can't do that in the UK. Not For me was proper nuys freed. I probably one of the nicest times in my life is a holly riding around Florida. On t to holly and I'M GONNA I'm GonNa Great Time Brilliant. That's great all right. Thank you so much for your time. 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The face of the earth I've been a huge fan for a long time so I really appreciate you appreciate you. Push that dead lift to eleven hundred pounds and now we get the excitement of watching everybody else. Try to gun for it and you get to see people you know hitting a thousand pounds and we'll see we'll see what happens and we'll see who gets it but maybe as we talked about earlier we talked about the law of attraction. Maybe you can use a lot of traction in negative way and just think negative thoughts that no one's ever. GonNa Break Your record and just you know. Keep keep them down. I think I think a nice way to end this. What's what's V. to say you know they're all people died. I believe the can pull the five to kill a dead lift but in my honest opinion about more chance of the Queen there go. You heard it here. Strength IS NEVER WEAKNESS. Week strength catch. Y'All later what a podcast man. 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"This episode of stuff mom never told you brought to you by Pantene lately. I've been using the pantene rosewater collation and it's fantastic not only does it smell incredible but my hair feels softer than ever like an actual rose petal yeah I said it and best of all all the Pantene rose water collection is sulfate free and contains zero parabens mineral oils or dies this really one of the reasons I love painting is because of their commitment to become of cruelty free company so using science to make great shampoo and do it without hurting animals which is awesome so try the new painting Rose Water Collection Zanny and this May and earless thing to stuff never told your prediction of iheartradio's house and this is not quite an episode of Mindy today we wanted to share with you a clip from I'm a show a new podcast that is near and dear to my heart that I also work on called Ephemeral Yes yes and this is a semi new show and it is the brainchild of a good friend and CO worker. Alex Williams Alex. I love Alex is Great. I went to his wedding. It was so beautiful yeah I've just hung out with him so I can't say as much but he he comes the game night and Karaoke and he is an integral part of game night and Karaoke. He has a good voice yeah which is good. He does have a lot of stage presence. He brings it when he like. He's gotten he's got it. When they seen that Milan song that brings down the House Him Andrew I andrew time the boys they just rock it out? See we have this thing where we always request be a man from Milan and <hes> feel like a woman by Schneider Twain Becau- and then we switch like my good friend Chandler always leads Schneider Tweeden song and it's the thing of beauty. I don't think that's hard that one. Oh well is coming again so he's not ever been when I've been oh he brings it. He brings it to but we're today. We're talking about Alex. I always very good q dance it <hes> so this show 'em role is really cool. It's kind of like an audio collage of lost things one of the producers I was more involved in the beginning because he really didn't need my help too much. Much and I wanted to be involved so badly really excited yeah because it's it's really cool and it's unlike anything I personally have ever heard and I'm really glad that he asked me to be a part of it and I get to be a part of it <hes> but this episode that he you did is worn. I thought Smith D listeners might really enjoy because it's all about female switchboard operators yeah yeah on this a whole like in the series now probably a series about I think during the World War the hello hello girls Yes yes so he interviewed the author of that Book Fun. Dr Elizabeth Cobbs who I am determined. She is a powerhouse and I want her on this show yeah <hes> but she she's part of that episode and it is really really fascinating. <hes> a story of women fighting to be recognized for the soldiers that they were during World War One because if you think about it during World War One they needed people who are really good at being switchboard operators and most which were operators the guy or woman <hes> I just got around to watching the Marvelous Mrs Basil for the First Time and when she works at the as an operator I was like oh see I get it because she uses the particular voice. You had to say a certain thing with the Thai cadence there was a lot more that went into it and I thought I learned a lot so we really wanted to share this clip with you and we hope that you enjoy it and if you do then you can head over to the affirm rural page wherever you get your podcast listen the flip side and subscribe in November nineteen Seventeen General John pershing sends a memo back home and he says I have got avenue operators. Get them to France as you can make sure they're in uniform. Put them under command and get them over here so immediately. The War Department sends out press releases all over the country saying we want women operators. Women are needed to go over there to quote the George Cohen Song that was put out was was that women were needed as soldiers women would serve in uniform. They should leave their civilian garb at home. They would be subject to the same military. Discipline is the man making the same kind of contribution as important contribution as even menu went over the top because they set over the tops of the trenches beginning in early December of nineteen seventeen. They're all these newspapers all around the country from from Atlanta to Seattle Washington. Asking women to volunteer seventy six hundred women volunteer for the first one hundred positions so seven thousand six hundred women volunteer they do it so fast army doesn't even have applications so then it takes a few weeks to get that on board in one of the things that they had to speak French without hesitation they had to be able to simultaneously translate pronunciation have to be very very good. They had to be very quick witted. They had to be very good listeners. They had to be just very adept. Physically at at these operations they did sort of assume anybody who had all those kind of native characteristics could be taught telephone operating and so they also train them in that and some people washed out of that in the end they get people who are the very best whether by natural aptitude nearby practice the keenness of American citizens to volunteer for the war effort speaks volumes about the attitudes at the time. There was really a sense of public service. The idea was that you were to do for your government. It wasn't what your government was to do for you. The notion that America was a democracy that it was his government was it's people was who still a very present sentiment pioneer cousins of the people who built America especially because there was no professional army. We're very tiny one so if the nation needed defending it meant well gosh it's up to plus. It's our nation. We're the ones who've gotta do this. Almost five hundred switchboard operators had become the first female soldiers of the U._S.. Army two hundred and twenty six would cross the Atlantic with the Signal Corps Women's served in myriad other capacities for the war effort the U._S.. Navy enlisted women for the first time to serve domestically Red Cross nurses in y._m._C._a.. Volunteers brisk life and limb abroad but the hello girls as these operators would be called for special they have been vetted by the army they have been investigated repeatedly by army intelligence because keep in mind and these people are going to be handling national secrets literally in their hands and through their headsets they can hear every command is going to go out because Emerald. We're one almost all commands retreat fire the actual business. Business and of roar is handled by the telephone and through telephone operators. One of the most important persons is grace banker who was a twenty five year old woman she had been in telephone supervisor in New York. City recent is it college graduate of Barnard College College associated with Columbia University which didn't yet admit women one week she applies to go into Singaporean. She doesn't hear back and she writes them again a week later and says I hope you didn't lose my letter and then the week after that she's inducted and fingerprint and told Oh actually you're gonna be in charge of the first contingent. There had never been women soldiers so there weren't winning officers so they immediately looked around and said okay well. You know who might be officer material and here's a young woman who's done this very weird thing at the time which is to become a college graduate. Take the blame on panel girly man the goal grace bankers could friend Merle Egan was from Montana. They didn't know each other they met going in but they became good friends. She always described yourself stubborn Gal I also have I have a particular weakness four. I might say Louise and Ramon Labor Thanh this was oh you to their the sisters who are he thought they were well. They weren't very truthful at times. They lied like a rug. They wanted to get in before they were French descent. They spoke French fluently. Louise was eighteen. She told the Army she was twenty. One her assist remained was sixteen until the army she was eighteen when army intelligence interviewed them as all these women wearing multiple times army intelligence reports wrote back and of course I saw the reports personnel files very mature for their ages. We think they're going to do very well. They are very mature for ages. They had lied about there. Were others are just so many wonderful women with all these crazy nicknames for each other's like you know there was esther tootsie. Let's see to you tootsie Fresno Al and Suzanne Provo- who was known as the wildcat and is funny. I think often we look back people from previous generations and we soon that they were all kind of prudish and that they were all just very stayed in sedate date and never uttered cuss words such things and they were a different their values were different but they were just as young and vibrant is any millennial doing what they believed in doing what they loved. You know wanting to be a part of the wider world. While the women by the way were being inducted and trained and shipped to France internally in the army's own internal administration there was a conversation that went on for about five months where the army ultimately says you know what we're going to consider them. Contract Workers Curse so although the army gave them no contracts and in fact had them swear the same oath as all of the men swore who were inducted three women never knew that the army at least internally in its upper bureaucracies did not see them as full soldiers curse the women thought they were. Let's be clear they were really march of nineteen eighteen. The first contingent of thirty three women ship out they all went to France which itself was older dicey because does your ship could be sunk at any moment there on constant alert until they get to England. You're wearing your life jacket even to bed when they arrive. Paris itself is under bombardment the first night there there they have to go down into the bomb shelters because there's incoming from the German artillery which is now within twenty miles a Paris. It's rainy. It's cold. It's freezing. They walk out to work in the mud is so deep that they have what what they called duck boards over the muck once the battles start there working sometimes around the clock. There's bombs going off. There's artillery Russians are shaking awards. When a German guns got so close the windows would blow out one point the group of men Russian until the women? You've got to get out and say we will as soon as you do towards the end of the war at one point the women were and the men were in these very very flimsy wooden barracks that look more or less like chicken coops that the French had left behind after the battle for done at that they move into an operate they both sleep in them and their telephone equipment is in them and they messed together meaning. They have breakfast lunch and dinner together the women and the men they officers prison work but is right next door to and the army field evacuation hospitals right next door so they see all the people coming back torn apart in fact in their spare time the women often went into the hospitals to talk to the men because it was very cheering during the men to see an American woman face you know to hold their hands as they're dying was. They didn't write about it a lot but they were. That's what they were doing. <hes> now they have these descriptions. They wrote in their diaries of these scenes. They saw those hospitals which has. Is One grace banker said would make a pacifist anyone and she was a soldier at one point. The German prisoner of work knocks over an oil stove and their barracks goes up in flames. The women lose all of their possessions and right next door. They're connecting telephone calls in a very similar building may add same chicken coop Cada construction starts filling with smoke. They refused to leave and the men are climb on top of the building pouring water on it trying to preserve obviously not only the women but also this equipment because this American made equipment is not available anywhere else in the world has been brought across the ocean for this very purpose. Finally the situation is too dire and they tell the women get out. We're not ordering you to get out. pull out the equipment into a nearby field. Somehow they manage to get the fire out. Put the equipment back in and they start up operating again within half an hour operator. I mention half an hour because General George Squire later reported reported Congress that in a modern more if communications meeting basically the telephone goes down for even an hour the whole military machine collapses so they were only down for thirty minutes in the women felt pretty proud about that listen to the rest of this episode and the full first season of ephemeral now subscribe on Apple podcasts the iheartradio APP or wherever you listen to podcasts and learn more at ephemeral dot show nine <music> and that work decades of pioneering television broadcast once and never seen again. There was nothing else like this on early television generation of American musicians completely forgotten. There hasn't been A.

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Together We'll Get Through This! (Hour 2)

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Together We'll Get Through This! (Hour 2)

"Live from the headquarters of Ramsey solutions broadcasting from the dollar car rental studios ads. The Dave Ramsey show where data's dom cash is king and the paid off home mortgage has taken the place of the BMW as the status symbol of choice. I'm Dave Ramsey your host. A thanks for joining us this hour. Ken Coleman Ramsey Personality and author of the Number One bestselling book the proximity principle joins me to talk about jobs this hour career this hour and we will take your financial questions as well. Since I'm an expert on my opinion I'll speak into both open phones. If you WANNA talk triple eight. Eight two five five two two five we also have a special Treat for you guys this our our good friend Grammy Award. Winning Steven Curtis Chapman is going to drop by for a segment working on some cool stuff and I've been talking about off line and I told him to jump on here in shared since he lives in our neighborhood and he's GonNa come by. Spend a few minutes with us the meantime. Let's go to Jeremy and California. Hi Jeremy Welcome to the Dave Ramsey. Show Hey Dave thanks for having me absolutely. How can we help? Well I'm new to Financial Peace University though. This is my first month with the However I work for a school district where the pension plan of been here two years. Fully vested is five years But right now of being offered a job for my brother to work for his Septic company that he just opened up a little over a year ago. And I'm not sure whether to give up Solid income or something that has potential to earn more. But you know we got a phone calls up and and just looking for advice on on the move. So what is he going to pay you? Well we haven't figured that out exactly yet but It it likely be close to seventy thousand a year to start. How old is his business to your two years Under two years. Yeah about fifteen months. What will you be doing for him to make seventy thousand dollars a year? You're having and driving a a septic pump truck which is a class they license and sell things step. Thanks and people that do that. Get paid seventy thousand dollars a year in your area Well not just drivers but he's actually GonNa bring me on as a part owner so So yeah he won't be paying me just as a driver. I'd be thinking you know drivers I think drivers pumpers just make around twenty five thirty dollars an hour now. But I'd be so salary. But the salary will fluctuate with. What do you make? No I make fifty thousand dollars a year but for the past year I've been able to make sixty five with overtime but over time has been shut off since the Kobe. Sure come down. Which is a temporary situation. I A month with a budget. You know might cut twelve hundred dollars. You're going to tell you the first to answer that you gave when we asked you what you're going to be paid you said well we haven't discussed that yet or we're not quite sure. And then you came up with seventy thousand and I just think that you've got to be very very clear With what he is what he's offering and ask the questions. Essentially Dave just asked you. You know how we're GONNA come to that amount because I think it's very attractive to say. Hey I'm GONNA go work with my brother but I just don't hear enough as it relates to real facts to where you can make a good decision to leave right now. It feels very very you know. It's this to discuss this over a couple It's not solid yet. You don't have an offer. Yeah and he doesn't have a position to give you an offer. I don't think it sounds like you guys like each other. You love each other's brothers who thought it'd be cool to work together. Let's have a couple of beers. Oh Yeah let's do this and there really hasn't given you even getting more thought to it than that in Dude. It sounds like a train wreck. I'm afraid you're going to get in there and the business is not gonna be able to support both of you because you haven't thought it through he hasn't thought it through because people don't make seventy thousand dollars a year driving trucks Septic trucks I didn't think so that's why I was quizzing. You about him And I don't know why you get twenty five percent of his business just because you showed up and drove a truck. Why is that happening just? Because he's your brother and he likes you dude and by the way you aren't sitting around going you know I hope when I'm forty. I own a twenty five percent of a septic tank pumping company. You did not ever have that conversation. One time in your head. The only reason this is on the tables family pull That's the only reason and it's only two years old into the business Not yet that's right. I think it's a someday. Maybe because you know we talked about this in the year from now. That's right well. It took a lot more detail when he can prove he's got to be able to show you in the numbers. How generates that kind of money and then can support you in that role? The other thing that I'm concerned about it sounds cool when when brother says hey. I want you to come on board my company and be twenty-five percent or whatever the percentage ownership is and do you guys work well together. Have you sat down with MOM and Dad? Have you talked to some coaches and teachers that know you both? Have you gotten some objective opinion on doing oriole wager? Yeah I just think you've got to go into the family business. Some brothers can work together. Some can I agree some parent? Kids can work together. Some can't some husbands and wives can work together some. Yeah and so you need to think through that. It's not an automatic You have not done enough work on this question to be able to answer the question yet. That's what we're telling you and I think it's GonNa take you a year of watching his business understanding his business asking yourself in the when you're on the back porch early in the morning and the mist is rising in Your Cup of coffee in your lap. Is this what I wanted to with my life and because otherwise it's just like hey be cool work on my brother and then all of a sudden you both have screwed up each other's lives by doing this very dangerous very dangerous. Amanda is in Missouri. Amanda welcome to the Dave Ramsey show. Hi Thank you for taking my call. Sure what's on quick? Yeah quick question for you. I am thirty the new job on June first and They part of the offer of the day of giving me I guess the compensation let's just say includes a A gift of five thousand shares in the company school and which is Great But the The person I'm reporting to mentioned that there's always the option to get more shares in the company. But it just depends on you know obviously your performance than if you have an interest in more shares and those types of things and I'm just wondering as I worked for the company and I start to think about you know this option for potential shares. What are some of the questions that I need to be asking to determine if that's what I should go back I I should request more shares? Are they giving them to you? So five thousand shares but the future shares. That you're worried about. Are they going to be given to you as compensation or are you gonna be buying them? They would be given to me but I but I believe it's based on I'm in sales could be part of my Acquire the contract for that as well anytime you share that. You didn't pay for that. It's hard for them to be a bad deal clear. Just be clear. What the measurements are. If I hit these goals I get the option to get the shares. Just know what you're up against and what the scoreboard is going to be. If it's an option to buy them that's different but if they're giving them to. That's another thing option. I'm no I'm not going to get in the stock business you're in the sales business And Very few times does that work out. Depending on situation you're in but Free shares that you can turn around turn into money always yes. I'll always take that gift. Thank you this is the Dave Ramsey. Show business leaders now more than ever. We need people with the right skills to support our communities especially the frontline workers who provide resources and care for those most in need to help linked in is offering free job post for healthcare and essential service organizations that need to quickly fill critical roles with the people who help us. All if you're hiring for one of these organizations free job posts on linked in can help you quickly find the right people for your front line to post a job for free visit linked in dot com slash Ramsey terms and conditions. Apply the cool thing about living in. Nashville is not only all the country music stars but this is the home of Christian music as well and so they academic figures in Christian Music Wonderfully have become my friends over the years. Steven Curtis Chapman joins us this hour Okay his his. Mike's not on no. It's not no. It's not dave coming here and check it please. I think we've got a problem with it. I don't know what happened. Okay so anyway all that big that big setup and then there we get that but Check one two anyway Steven. Curtis Chapman joins me this hour. This segment here. Hello there Up Its air gap thing and that'll be plan. That's right I think we. We think we hadn't done radio around here before. Its first day. I allow anyway. Stephen been friends many years and You know some of the iconic people in Christian Music Amy Grant Michael W Smith Steven Curtis Live in the area all friends with each other friends of mine. Sharon's in our our our our spouses each other. And a lot of country music people interact to a little known factor. Maybe maybe well known fact. A lot of country music folks have a A Secret Gospel track in their heart. That's all WanNa do a gospel album. Elvis did Gospel albums. Virtually every country music eventually does a gospel album or song or to get mixed in there so when we get do a guys get together on my back porch It's not unusual to have John. Rich in Steven Curtis sitting there talking about stuff. I never heard of and I'm always. Yeah that's where I've hung out with Kicks Brooks and we've got to hang out with some some heroes a minelayer gallon. We got the hang out at your place. So you've given me some amazing opportunities to connect with some heroes of mine and some great music guys and and you play a very pivotal role in this in this song. And you know this but your listeners will who appreciate you need appreciate you even more as the great Connector of people that you are and can be so I'd written this song Just watching honestly. Here's the bottom line. I was hearing the word together. I was hearing phrases and Things that I have not coming out of my television set that I've heard in years months and years because seems like everything coming off of that. Screen is is division in anything but togetherness and suddenly wouldn't it be like a global pandemic to make start talking about what's eternally true? We're actually made for relationship. We actually need each other. Actually not the enemy. Even though we feel that way and we've got different opinions different ways of doing it and thinking about it but the truth is we're all in this together and suddenly. It seemed like some people were talking about that and getting that and I was hearing this word together. We'll get through this together and there was something in that. It's like this dark room. This dark cloud in a little ray of light came shining through and I thought I WANNA go kick the door open and see if I can get more light in you know. Get a little more of that. Good stuff in summarize song set down wrote a song called together. We'll get through this so I've written the song I'm thinking. This is a song that needs some other people from singing about together and I'd love to get some people From different genres of music. I could almost imagine kind of we are the world. Let's get a bunch of US. Not just you know all of us in our same community. What if I could get some folks from different places and I thought Oh Brad Paisley because Brad connected? We've done a few things together over the years. He's a great man. Great Heart does great work his store that he and his wife. Kimberly have started. He wore a show. Hope t shirt on the Johnny Carson on the tonight show one year One night and Organization my wife and I started a nonprofit to help. Adoptive families and children need families. And so we'd connected and bonded over a few things but we ended up at a Glen Campbell Tribute concert when Glenn passed away a few years ago and said You know highlights. Let's do something together someday. Why didn't know how to reach him? 'cause I'm not never one of those guys go he can get your number sucking bug you later. So I didn't bother him. Didn't get it but I knew that you knew Brad and had had him a partier gatherings occasionally or at invite him to be and I didn't know how to reach him so I sent you email and said I've written a song and I this is weird. Not WanNa do something weird but if you would let brad know that. I love to reach him if he's got any interest make it really easy for him to say. I don't WanNA get bugged by Chapman. Guy Who is that guy anyway and so immediately and you even prep me said it might take a little while you know. He doesn't always respond real immediately. He almost immediately responded. How give him my number? Give them I give them up. You know my number and my email so I emailed him. Didn't hear anything for about three days almost gave up thought. He's busy enough time for this. I got a text message number. Two texted him. He immediately takes back said. Did you get my email? Something happened? I didn't get it and he said I'm in. Let's do it so you and him. I got a minute. Yes and Elena joined us larne line amazing country artists sweet sweet lady and Tasha cobbs Leonard. I wanted us a gospel choir. I couldn't get a gospel choir in social distancing so I got the next best thing. Tasha cobbs later. Amen Girl. The song is called together. We'll get through this okay and it comes out today. Yup Now. Today is the longest sir. And we'll we're honored that you make us part of the launch. Thank you brother who. You're part of it very very very proud of YOU BRAD. And all of you for putting this together. And some of the proceeds from the song going to go into the OPRY Trust Fund to help musicians there and folks impacted by cove in Nineteen and also to the Gospel Music Association Find Helps Artists and musicians and songwriters in the same way because we'll music business been devastated by this shutdown exactly except so you sell records but record. I mean you could sell music but you can't do concerts right can't do anything there so And so you can get this song. We're GONNA play it right now. You can get this song by Steven. Curtis Chapman and Brad Paisley others. Where any great music is salt areas folks together Acura. I can see do panicking know you can see it in women through some crazy things before but nothing like this. You know of know his guide allowed to say this is the three got one thing known to impede your hand. Zaib leave together really do do Steve. We we know get together. I know it's hard to find. The Sky is too dark to see weekend. Even start to talk with each other for no only have we get. There's no we can't may not be pleased junior you you from the other day. The song is together. We'll get through this Steven Chapman. Brad Paisley Elaina Elaina and touch cops. Leonard I can't get off screen here Stephen Carter by and sharing that America. Go pick song up because together we can get through this. This is what the artists do in Nashville. They are the troubadours of our hearts to Put to music into words and lyrics what we're all feeling and You can pick that song up again anywhere. The great songs are sold and portions of it. going to the Opera Fund and to the AMA fund to support artists and many of them struggling. Like everybody else right now so Thank you Steven man to appreciate. How you who you are in the Lord and how you stand up thank you brother but man listen my friend. All Right Steven Carter shopping. This is the Dave Ramsey show. Whatever is going on in your world personally. Now is not the time to spend more money than you need to do this. Join honey do not pass up on instant savings. I was talking to Tatyana on our media team and she said she bought prescription sunglasses online and got fifty percent off because she used a Promo Code. Honey found her at checkout. So listen to Papa Dave get honey for free at join honey dot com slash dave again. Thanks to Steven Curtis Chapman dropping by and putting out what amounts to the first day of the Premiere I was GONNA say World Premiere but it might not be. They launched it or otherwise but the new song together. We'll get through this with Brad Paisley Lauren Elena and Tasha cobbs Steven wrote the song and then was able to put together that group of folks to launch it and Proceeds going to The opry and Grendel opry and a good are an end to the Gospel Music Association to Support Artists. That are struggling right now. So very good stuff in a great song together. We'll get through this because we will good stuff can calm and welcome back to the microphone. And let's go to a good debt. Free Scream in Louisiana it looks like Derek and Jackie are debt free. Congratulations guys with love. Day thank you. Hey Dave well done you guys. How much have you paid off? Two Hundred Ninety Three Thousand Dollars Gracious. How long did this take? Nineteen months okay. There's a story here and your range of income during that time About three hundred thousand. Okay there's that Oh my goodness what are you guys do for a living? I'm a registered nurse. And I'm a self-employed trump carpenter okay. I registered nurse and a self employed trim carpenter making three hundred K. I'm intrigued by the blue-collar against I love it. You guys you are working a Lotta hours. Then I'm guessing definitely say okay very cool so the two hundred and ninety three thousand was what kind of debt off our house. Days your home and everything everything. One hundred percent debt free and paying off the house pushed us over. Helped push us over the limit. So now we're also debt free every area. Mares and the picture on Youtube is from the gun range where you put the mortgage down range and filter or something would you shoot it with. Oh forty five clock Forty Block three fifty seven twenty two and my nine Springfield ex. We WanNa make really sure there's things we want to make. Sure we kill suckers not coming back to the front of the range with anything but a limp or house is fabulous. Enter frame in our house also more. You should your millionaires. You're debt free. How old are you too? I'm thirty two thirty six. Wow you are rockstars zero well done. This is amazing so I mean even making three hundred paying off to ninety three and nineteen months as Dadgum. Your mathematically impossible. How'd you pull that off? Well No days off there was a couple of splurge when we had a lot of houses going on and I can remember last spring I worked. I think Counted fifty six days straight. Without a day off they would have built on grinding. It out you know. And and this wasn't something that happened overnight as one something that happened in just nineteen Moss. You know this is not overnight success. We've been working a lot of your plan for like the last ten years we went through. Fpu before we got married. We've both been paying off our cars. I'm just working the baby steps up since we were young and this was just the final. The final baby step seven. So wow we're We finally got to make make the call and call you so we're pretty pumped up about it. So what's the house worth? The house is worth about eight. Eighty five at that range. Okay very nice very cool. So that's a big chunk of the over a million that you've got out of Ashley and that last two ninety three did in nineteen months in the picture. I'm seeing again on Youtube popping up got a couple of little boys there And so they survived their dad working fifty six days straight but now they're millionaires. Believe it or not. Yeah even survived Not being able to hunt every day so he can do it. I can be done well. I guess you've lived like no one else now. You can live and give like no one else right. That is true. And we're excited about the The giving part That last last verse. You always say be able to live and give like no one else We we've enjoyed given during this process Know we like to see older veterans whenever the restaurants have their hat on we'd like to pay for their meals but now that we're debt free. We always said one day. We'll be able to start giving more and we actually made the arrangement today We made one thousand dollar check to the tunnel to Towers Foundation doing that on this day every year. I like it. I go from our debt. Free scream to a debt free dream anniversary I year. We're going to do that all our great foundation for a gold star families. Yeah well that's pretty amazing so I'm curious why while you're working on baby step six. Did you decide to get as intense as you got? Cause man you went you went lays ears laid back and win an after it. Yeah there's no reason not to move. We started we have boys and lots of reasons not to everybody's got excuses but you just decided not you work fifty six days straight. Yeah why yeah. Well I mean I put my head down. Go after it and My wife she's a nurse she's She's been maxing out her hours when she has a chance to. But we we. We decided that after we got done building this we just got done self contract in the house myself We've been in about two years and we gotta start getting the House notes. Dan started seeing the interest that they're charging us every month. How much of that money was going to waste? And I knew for three hundred thousand dollars in debt but we had a big shovel to get out of it with like you said so at first the plan was to just over just double our house note and we'll pay it off and seven or eight years that lasted about a day or two and I went back to my wife and saying no reason why we can't get on this horse and ride hard. You know to start putting our head down to throwing everything we have at the principal and we've kind of made a time line. We actually beat our own timeline doing that so it was once we started. We had incentive to keep going. We really wanted to push through it so Jackie did you think he's a little crazy this was something. I've always wanted to do as well And I totally trust my husband and I drive in him and it just pushed me to want to To work as hard as he has worked for us. That's a sweet way of saying. Yes but I'm crazy to derrick. Jack I gotta ask you real quick. What would you say to folks who they here fifty six straight days? They hear that she was working every overtime shift. She could get you. Were working really really hard and there had to be some times. You're GONNA I really don't have to do this but it was not. I could do this. I should do this. I must do this. What was the shared goal? What was the role in keeping you all going in that incredibly difficult schedule Just knowing that we could do it and then no wasn't going to be an answer. We had a list on our freezer and our pantry started off at two ninety three and then when we started paying down we each month. We'd right now. We had a goal Paid off faster. We can and no matter no matter what I was gonNA find a way to get some money to pay principal so a trim carpenter and a nurse at thirty two years old or now millionaires. That's what happens so Yeah that whole Wow why guys so very proud of you. Who were your biggest cheerleaders Probably each other just pushing each other and just just freaking out whenever we made that principle check and and just being pumped up about it and probably everybody on social media thinking that we're crazy for giving away our money to a house. You know what I mean. I love it. I love it but you got no house. Payment covert payment. We're we're able to start giving money away. Which is going to be a lot of fun. Yeah I mean covert comes and you. Don't even have to blink right. Oh well look. We paid off that house. I think eight days before Kobe. Hit the states. Wow Amazing I was beggarly. Well done guys well done well. We've got a copy of Chris. Hogan's book for You because you should be in it It's called everyday millionaires. You are definitely one of them and Such an impressive young couple. The things you can do now with your lives. You'll be able to do anything you want to do. And you have lived like no one else and you are truly in a position to live and give like no one else way to go Derek and Jackie Baton Rouge Louisiana. Two hundred and ninety three thousand paid off in nineteen months making three hundred K. Count it down. Let's hear a debt. Free Scream tag is three. That's how it's done in Baton Rouge. This is the Dave Ramsey show. Ken Coleman joins me this hour Ramsey personality number one bestselling author of the book the Proximity Principle. Michael is on the line in Pennsylvania. Michael's got a question for Ken. Michael I can help. Hi Thank you for taking my call. I have a question about college. I am seventeen years old a junior high school right now and I don't know what I would like to do in college on completely undecided. Don't just wondering what's what's a good idea for thinking about majors. Well I don't think you have to be worried right now is a junior in high school about your major. I mean you don't pick a major your freshman year necessarily any way you could go in there and most of your first two years. You're getting your basics you're getting the fundamentals a the the requirement. Then you pick the major and then you go into specialization as you get into your junior senior year and I think between now and your senior year you need to just be focusing on Exploring ideas talking to adults that are in your community whether it be your friends or family members getting an idea of some of the things you might be interested. You're not committing to this seventeen or junior so I I just don't think you need to be worried or even thinking about a major. It's really about okay. What's a good school option for me? are we paying for school? Anthony Neil My colleague bestselling author of debt. Free degree that needs to be a book that you're digesting and picking a good school that has options for you I think it's the only thing you need to be thinking about. The major and that decision will come but I think that I would be focusing on. What are you dreaming about? What are you wonder about? Even when you're eleven twelve thirteen fourteen even now and begin to explore and and shadow people that are in those fields and as you begin to see things that you're interested in and you explore more into those fields you'll get more clarity and then you're picking the major that best suits you For a future in that field. But I wouldn't be worried Dave about picking a major at seventeen as a junior. I agree I don't think you have to a couple of principals as you get ready to do it One IS I. Try to shadow. Somebody that's doing it. Try to go to their workplace and actually watch them doing this The second principle is do not pick a major because you think it pays well only I've got a friend that became an engineer. Which is a highly detailed thing. He's not a highly detailed person and he was miserable for the first many years of his work life Because his mom told him he should be an engineer because he was good with math and but he's not a detail guy and so and engineers and accountants are largely The successful ones are largely detail. Oriented People So you don't pick it just because it's quote unquote a good job. The third thing is you. Don't pick it just because it's your passion if you get a degree and left-handed puppetry natural passion. You'RE GONNA Starve to death. Sure so you have to balance out the idea that. I need to make some money with this degree to justify paying for it on the one hand on the other hand. It's not just about making money. It needs to fit your passions and your personality style and make money And then just go find some people that are actually doing it. Walk around them. You're not listening to someone Who's never been a dentist telling you to be a dentist and you've never been in a dental practice and spent the day other than as a patient and that's not that would be a horrible idea to spend that much time and effort to become a fill in the blank whatever it is and never visited the location where that has actually done And and so You know but but there are even to even then. There are degree fields. That ARE GENERAL ENOUGH. That are very useful. That are worth the money. that you can Move towards without even feeling like you have to have picked the nuanced very thin exact career choice. For Instance Rachel Cruze Guy Degree in communication which gave her a lot of speaking and media and writing She thought she was going to end up doing what she is doing today. So that served her well. Daniel Ramsey got a degree in business with a specialization in marketing He didn't know if he was gonNA come on this team or not at that time but he knew he loved business in general and good that the that allows you to do almost anything it out in the business world with that degree. It's a general degrees very very useable so You can go that route. The problem people get into pick nuanced degrees that have no marketplace us. Well and the other thing I get this call daily on the Ken Coleman Show as well I got this degree so I fell into this career because I felt like I had to use the degree and everybody gets locked into all this degree stuff. You know Michael. There's there's three questions over the next two to three years. You're going to need to answer. And that is what you do best. These are hard skills and soft skills. Think Talents In the form of an ability which is a hard skill and equality as a personality. Trait a character trait that speak those become the tools by which you do work in the marketplace. So then you begin ask. What's the work that I love to do? Though this is passion. This is the work that you look forward to high emotion when you think about it and high emotion when you're in it and time seems to disappear when you're involved in it that's high devotion. The third question is. What are the results of the work that I wanNA pretty so everybody does work and when you do work you produce a result? What are the results? And you're looking at the people that you want to help the problem. They have and the solution to their problem and that is mission. Those are the three questions that will serve you as you get older and begin to see the marketplace. Elisar IS WITH US IN NEW JERSEY. Hi How are you? Hey Dave how's it going? How can we help? Yeah I'm the idea I call because I recently USA relieved check for purchase as the N. T. Program and Right now I mean that's an eight and that I want to know what can I do? Meanwhile to saint might packed okay. So you're going through the financial coach Master Training Program that we have and Some of the training that is in that talks about how to Start Your Business and how to run your coaching business It's part of the training so go back and make sure you get those modules in that and that you're getting that information on the phone with those guys and they can tell you a lot of what's happening there A lot of coaches Can I started and I think you did to a lot of it was We didn't start for money I started doing financial coaching administrate at my church where I started. My skills develop reputation. People knew me and then people were willing to pay me. for coaching at that point Do not that long but because I could. I could solve their problems. Do the same thing with careers right. Yeah you start with one so the answer. Elliot's are starting with one and and not just starting with one as you are in this course in your training you already have great content from our team to be able to describe what it is. You're being trained to do. I'd start telling everybody I mean everybody. I mean the person at the grocery store where the clerk I would tell all your friends and family I would tell everybody on facebook or social media whatever social media platform us. I would say hey listen. I'm super excited. I am doing some world class training to be a financial coach. And here's what we teach and talk about Dave and the steps I mean. Tell people what you are being trained to do and those people are going to be able to see. Okay wait a second. I need this help. I know him I trust him. I like that. I see in my friend at work getting repossessed on their car. Maybe maybe start to spread the word for you. And that's how you find. 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Episode #15 "Do Not Resuscitate"

Talking Sopranos

1:38:01 hr | 5 months ago

Episode #15 "Do Not Resuscitate"

"All Right Welcome Talking Sopranos podcast Episode Fifteen Very Excited Steve About today's episode for two reasons. One, we have the great. Juliet Hoax, who is the costume designer from the Sopranos Craig Great Great. Today were covering seasons to episode to do not resuscitate, which marks the very first appearance lobby Markelov first time deal. I guess I. Guess so yeah, first time I I haven't seen it in so many years and we'll talk about it later, but. Episode is great season. So to. Episode We have idea friend on I know. We're both were very friendly and she was a huge help to me right from the first day I met her. She's wonderful. And before we bring Ron I just want to encourage everybody to where your getting podcast. If it's Youtube spotify apple, please subscribe. That's it. For Redo, let's spring on our friends and costume designer from the Sopranos Juliet pokes. Hey. Hey good to see you. It's been so long. I don't even know the last time I. I guess it was for the show and. I think it was. I, think it was yeah, I mean. Although. Change like no time has passed. Rice absolutely right about that and you've been good. You've been working on. What have you been doing? Law and order because I'm supposed to do one at one point and we text but I remember. DICTATED WANNA. Give me any lines. They wanted me, but with no lines. I swear together as lies. The money was good. Top the show, but they didn't want me to say anything. What do you mean like pantomime? You were going to be a commute. It was like one and a half. Remember what the role! One a half lines in the courtroom and it was very nice and then to think of me, but. It never happened. You know it's been Nice. There's the there's been a lot of former sopranos. Council members have been on the show. We've have been Tola Aida. They played judges who recur every once in a while There's there's been a lot and every time. Somebody comes in. It's just like family you know. Somebody that you had yeah. So so when when the show ended in two thousand seven. What so? I think we ended like in June. Whatever happened from there, did you? Come Lord, don't. No, no, no, I didn't. I didn't stop working. I mean I did. Remember I, did a movie called Brooklyn's finest. With. Don cheadle and Ethan Hawke. And I remember they. They got a kick out of because I was dealing with drug dealers and I thought. Oh, how you deal with the different type of Gangsta now and So I. Did you know I'm I'm trying to remember what I did, but I did a bunch of movies, and for the longest time, and then I did I. Did the pilot of person of interest and do the so called Rubicon? And then it was out of town, I did did a show on stars. Kelsey grammer called. And there I met because fans in, and then he did. This movie called Promised Land says in Chicago and it was in Pittsburgh and. I was thinking like I just got to get back to New York and was the first show. The called me and I thought Oh great I'll I'll I'll do the show for year. I, just WANNA get back to New, York and Yeah, you know eight nine. How many? Done and you've done more law and orders than you did Sopranos to. By now you know it. Oh, God, yeah, but you know the thing is I've been there. I think Sopranos from beginning to end I. Think it was nine years and I think I ended up doing like eighty three episodes. And in the same amount of time literally about. Nine years I think I've done over one hundred and seventy something episodes, was you? First episode of the Sopranos. No, I didn't do the pilot I didn't do the pilot, and they brought me in a episode to nine, and then I had never done TV before, and I had absolutely no idea, but I was in four I had done. You, know indie film and I was completely understaffed, but I had no idea I was run ragged and I was just because I care so much about the show. And I just wanted to everything right and it was just. It was overwhelming that first season was just overwhelming. Much to the point where I think it was around episode ten. Entirely landers I I can't do this anymore. I'm just like I'm having a nervous breakdown. It's too much, and it was very amicable that everybody. The show was up and running and had caused for all my characters and the look you know was was there. And yeah, I quit. stored. And then the show aired. And became this huge hit. I'm an idiot, but you know. I was reacting for the first time. In my life I'm do something you know. It's right for me. I thought. Well what are you going to do and then Lo and behold henry bones in call? and. He asked me back for season two and then I thought Oh God. What do I do like? I know this is going to be really hard. I know this is to be really stressful, but oh. God I love shown the characters that I love the cast and. Oh my God, angst it and I. Literally asked everybody knew what should I do and then I thought God like if it's not that. The answer I shouldn't do it so I went to Henry and I. said You know Henry. I'm sorry I. I can't do it. And Henry's response was well. We don't accept that as or Yeah I, which was. Grace Yeah those kind of amazing, and then can you little bargaining power and I? Get to ask for a little bit more things and Yeah, I came back to remember left. What aspect was overwhelming? What was it just? The amount of the characters was at the timeframe, and what? What was it? It was I mean I think. I had never done before so the pace of TV and the amount of stuff that that had to get done. You know every. Ten days or you know nine days or something, and I didn't have a big enough true and I was ending up. You. Know and I was. The type of person that I'm very detail oriented so I wanted to be chopping, and I wanted to buy anything and I wanted to sit everybody to be inside all the time, and you can't really do all of that that. I tried I was killing myself so. For the people out there that don't know. Tell tell us exactly what your job was. If if you know what is a costume designed to do, people know the name of that but mostly. Veto! Would that what the costume designer does is in in any shows whether it's the Sopranos or period show or a cop, show or play or or anything? Your job is to tell the story through the clothing so to help realize character what they wear, and I always like to say that before and after walk on stage before an actor walks on screen before they utter a word, the audience looking at them and they're getting. Ideas about who this person is so I'm helping. Tell that story. So character. Well characters were clothing even before the audience sees them. When the actor puts on the clothes, it affects the actor. You know even before they go in front of the can before you even leave your dressing room that you that's either, GonNa help you or harm you really as connector. I find at least and You know one of the things that I really appreciated about you because he will very much about. working with us and and wanting to know what what what we want what we were looking for, and what would help us be in our bodies, and be the characters better and you always had attention absolutely yeah. Because you know the thing is you can't. You can't force somebody into something if they're not going to be comfortable. It's GonNa. If anything's GONNA, affect performance well. You know I I'm not going to be responsible for that so if he can still be right in the character and you're happy with it, you know onus. I I don't know if you remember but in. It to be this episode, so my first episode was season to the second episode of the second season I got a call last minute, really fat shoot which I don't even know if you knew about all these fat jokes in the script Tony calls bobby cows with legs, called that blimp on and on and on you know, consider eating salads and I wasn't in real life that much bigger than Jim. I was kind of. A little bigger, but not that much so had to put the fast food on I. Come to see you upstairs I. I remember that you felt bad for me I. Think and I was horrible. I don't know why Lorraine was damp, but it was lorraine and David. I don't know if you remember this but I do and that you put a fat a fake Ashok me. I just tremendous has it was comical cowboy? Carol. Sorry. And then the cost of I mean the fat who you kind of made a a makeshift thing kind of with the t shirt and stuffing, and I remember parading up and down the aisles will all the closer, and you'll be so compassionate I didn't know anyone. I didn't know you had never worked. Before and I remember David share now getting rid of the ASS and and Then you get to be the host. You remember any of that. I know I, do I? Do I remember just being a gas? You Watch like you know. It, just like writers write things. They really need to underline, and they really wouldn't make sure I guess those jokes land, and so you know there's really that was right the characters, so you know we had to do it but I'm after a while I think. Just to Kinda. Well You had me you made a nice one of we went gangway custom shop. It was like a real one then I remember. And I have yeah. I have that one. I really whatever you gave it to me me one of them I have it in the garage out for you. I think originally what I remember. We had a wardrobe sale at the end of the season and cut. Mr. His whole Karen burder was one of our makeup people. She bought it. She bought it and she said her kids play with quitted on. Pretend there like sumo wrestlers. From your point of view like the mission statement of your of what you had to do, in terms of the show, like was there one kind of overarching theme, or that that you had to kind of keep in mind in terms of the show itself, and will what David? What David wanted was reality. You know and to find out I. Think he didn't want stereotypes of preconceived notions of what people thought. A mob family was so you know much to my surprise? When I started like looking into it and doing research and finding these stores with these guys shocked that you know it was running suits and garish shirts, and there was also a It was a New York magazine Article Forget it was about kind of like the young mobsters and it was in the suburb. And the suburbs. Westchester Remember that because Christopher was. Modeled on that kind of five exactly exactly so you know that some of the like Tommy Hilfiger, and you know just very kind of modern young guys stuff and you know everything was helpful I mean. If you know finding you know these these women in Jersey and you know when I found the store held cachet, and like my God this Carmella all over the place and found the store and Benson Hurst and You know the owner there was. Immeasurable and help to me. You know as far as what what guys should wear and so yeah, it was presenting this. This is what it is and how the reality. In a lot of the scenes what Melfi and Tony the their cozy, the match kind of clash was that direct was at a David thing direction right a thing that you. It was a coincidence. Probably a little bit of all of it. you know every time we had an episode? We always been have a you know. We'd have consummating every department, but have a meeting with the writers and the director and we you know we'd go through the script and discuss specific, so if it was something that we really wanted to get across the yeah, we did that you know. Sometimes, we substantial sometimes. Where was the store bent in the one you mentioned where you got the women's clothes. women's quote closest in malls in Jersey the store called cachet doesn't exist anymore. None of these sorts exist anymore and the you know, my my May Goumba store. This called Jack. Charles is an inch avenue. And then there was the garage pensioners and the garage. That went twenty three coach turned me onto the garage now, speaking Rico He added specific look of course, and sometimes I remember you guys clashed a little. About. What he was wary and what was that all about? He didn't like what you picked out for him or turned. Over him. Suzanne. I'm ever no title. To his dressing room and I would like pull the the neck opening just to help him. Get it on. The wouldn't cuss. I would talk him into. That search has a sort of a reason that was raid and you know, but sometimes it's somebody was uncomfortable. Something did WANNA. Wear it, we thing. Listen as long as for me is stuff it? I didn't care about that. You know that didn't bother me unless it's materials to crappy, but even now I mean I'll blue bloods. Whatever's Hausa fits gaming it. Some people have you know. There are a little different. But by large everybody really was very. You know wonderful to work with, and you know. Put something new trailing. You'd put it on, and and it was great you know and it was very rewarding when I would see see guys come in the morning, and then when you walk out of your trailer and he'd gone through makeup in the edge, it costs money. Walk into shot and see. The transformation was always rewarding. Are you wear how? A lot of young people now have become obsessed with the clothes from the soprano like there's instagram sites, and all kinds of I know you want. because. You should be because that's what you're doing. Yeah, I mean I'm aware of it, but it's kind of like you know a little chuckle and you know They're not going to capitalize it or anything very very proud of the work that I did and Fascinating, the kids love know that they do. You know when you look at them now. And then you know to be honest, not really dated in certain. We did advocate is a hit that episode I guess that's number, nine or ten of season one and I have this great, red or burgundy. Jacket and she's wearing a dray a Adrian as the character Jones wearing a red dress and it though. That's my favorite of the looks I. Think it made. It just looks really great. Oh, just POPs. It was just. It was so fun to dress. I mean it was something to everybody i. mean you know seems with with with Michael? Andrey and you know to to funerals. You know was always a great great. Great Time You know having the guy honking dressed the or you know when we did the the wedding you know Sacramento Wedding. That was a I was a big undertaking. But It was a joy. I obsessed about it. There's so many details when everybody's costumes and I loved. Every bit of them especially working, Jim. You know it was funny. He very first season. You know we only had so much space and we had to get rid of stuff at the end of the year old. He realized he actually had people saying that by my shirt. And then think he got put into the contract that you know He. He owned his wardrobe so channel at the end of the year with go through his closet and say I want. To give this phone free Tommy to his brother-in-law, his brother-in-law walked around looking like Tony Soprano. That's what he told me. And also wasn't it I. Don't know if it was early on a later on but gyms standing. In, he was almost the exact same size, and would said Jim would send him for the fittings. A Nice Guy and I think that guy was almost the same size as him and. He would go get. There is there a Lotta Times that I would have a sitting without I mean not even. move it meaning I would just kind of like have something that she wore, and they knew that that said we'd measure things well. That would probably work and You know it was hard to get him. He was in practically every scene. And you know one those actors that really enjoy costume fittings, so we tried to make it as simple as possible for him in fact. I, remember there was there was one scene he had to do with Annabella. And he had to be hit like in the middle of the night wake up and go to Globe Motors and threaten her, and just he had to be so angry and you know I. Look at my costume Kloden. It didn't have continuity to anything else. It could just be a costume on its own. So I knew all the things that Jim hated like the clothes that made him feel uncomfortable and. So I made that costume. All of the things that Jin like 'cause I figured it would make him mad. Hope in his performance wonderful. Yeah exactly when I went into, it explained to them I in done I, mean he just you know just appreciative. What was the hardest character for you to to to to to to get right biggest challenge in a way? You know. Mel Certainly. You know we kind of knew that she was very professional. Looking and I want to kind of things very kind of monochromatic, and I think as the years went on, it got more sophisticated looking I know in the very beginning you know I got got like call to the principal's office because her. Skirts too short, you know. And it's one of the things that you know when you you're in fitting in. You're standing down. You're standing and the skirt looks fine, and as soon as you sit down at hyped up so from that point on anytime, rain would come in for fitting. We'd make sure that she sitting in a chair I. You know we'd make sure. It looked OK to chair. Did you do? Much did you I? Know I mean. David talked to about the condoms I mean. Did you deal with him himself for? Was it I, lean? Or one of the other producers on. Any generally in not necessarily David, I mean in in the beginning Yeah, I mean I think we had conversations, but these constant meetings that we would have for every episode. It was usually the director of the episode and there was. The writer, the writer of the episode or sometimes Robin, Green Lot would be like the the writer producer costume in this area. You know type of thing. but you know David A. Amazingly they really kind of left me to my own devices a lot and it didn't interfere a lot. and which was kind of wonderful, you know. Say doing your thing. Yeah, warrant, you would have heard it. Believe me, you know. Yeah I remember. There was one time we were shooting with soprano. House and we were on set. Everybody had gotten there and you know. He grew during a rehearsal David turn to me and. He said Oh yeah Jalen. I didn't tell you I think she should probably have to John Or. You know and. WanNa. Hold camera after run and go switch that out, but by large you know. Amazingly Amazingly, what would some of those the labels designers that you were go to for for like say for the guys for the for the Soprano crew the? The mob there were these again. Some of these brands from like these stores and events in was brain. Call Cinelli. That will be great and you know. Sam's about pants and Crowd there was Jim used to wear stuff by NAT. NAST, and Burma Biba. you know not not big designer names. That, there's probably became much more popular after the Sopranos. Add those nice. Yeah and Don't forget true for Tori our failed design align that you saw a lot of people. Don't know about that now. We had how shirt line be Michael. Venture Tola and Roger Dodger member. We had still shirts. You Nice enough in the latest seasons to costume some of The Castro you remember that. I do remember the. Failed attempt at getting into the. Continent I think in Italian. The does it. Oh. My friend. We were gone. The garments business is the tough this. Is and I thought the shirts Nice, and they look on camera, but you were so nice when we came to you. You're happy to try to help us out so we always will appreciate that I thank you enough for doing this and wherever you are. Be Safe. Yeah. Coming on it's. Great to see you, thank. You hopefully they'll give you a few lines on law and order some day. How covered do? Why would love to see you? Both I would love to see about. Continued continued success with that. Thank you. To say. Hey. Juliet breaks costs three Granny Emmy winning costume designer from the Sopranos. I mean she was nominated four times for her work on the. I mean she is just fantastic. She's always been a good friend. From the first aired matter, so why don't we take a little break my friend? We'll come back with bobby buckle law so shopping for life insurance careers a lot of questions. How much coverage do you need? which insurance companies the best one for you? 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I talked to him before we got started to come on and you don't when your work with a director like. It was his first time. It was my first episode. You kind of bond forever. Somehow you know what I mean. it was all new tomorrow, and the show was already a hit David gave him a chance, and there was a lot of pressure on him to do a job here you know. It's not easy. This also was. The third episode shop. It was shot. You know secrets wiser was shot third, but it. K- shattered, but Second. Wasn't originally. Was it supposed to third originally, and they thought it better is the second one that I don't know I mean I. Don't know if it was who I don't know if it was because certain case members. Scheduling thing. Available I don't quite know what it was, but it was sheltered, but edged seconds. And interest over its new characters. On the shepherdess showed. You know yeah, not least of all bobby buckle la WHO's. WHO's mentioned right in the first scene in the first scene in prison when Tony goes to visit Uncle Junior. they bring. Up Bokola. Uncle Junior wants to make peace. You know once told me to make peace with Libya. He's R-. It's really a big deal for him and. Not One hundred percent, sure why I wanted to get your take on that. I think he was trying to save face a little bit. I think it's an embarrassment to the Sopranos in general his this mob family and the mother tried to kill her son, who's head of them all and the Saudi was gonNA. Kill the mother to I. Mean God forbid if that was the Gambino saw the you know Colombo's or CETERA that's that's a big. That's a big slap to the family. One of the other stuff is okay, the mergers. The Krim the crime and all that it's the this. Give him a bad look, a black eye on the mob. Is. Right off the bat. You could see Tony Stu cares about junior when he says. What's this about your heart? So I mean as guy who tried to kill them all very interesting. And totally into the jail takes you three weeks. You'll let me know what's from here and about your heart. Down US. Obviously very cocky kind of like. A lot of attitude but Tony as a sauce. Do weakness for him. He really does absolutely. And you see that throughout this episode very much, so you know any says. Make peace with your mother. It'll be good for everyone. and. Then he says and tell that fat fuck. Come out of his mouth, Hole. And, what's Bokolas, backstory? What what? What is he doing up until now? I think what what he was His father was played by the great burt. Young Bobby Bockel all senior. He used to be junior drive and right hand man. And then he went down to Florida era. Right He went down to Florida a number one at one point one episodes he goes, he's retired. My father can't do this. Each retired junior answers. What do we hit the fucking navy? So now listen mikey. was the driver. He got killed Parisi. Right. It gets killed by gee-gee after tell US secrets, so bokolas down the line and Bokola is now. Juniors guy and he wants to He wants to meet with him, so he could give junior message. Right, but up until now buccal has been doing business with family on junior's crew. Obviously run in certain operations could make him pay making collections and taking care business. Yeah, and I think he also was down. The ladder to those guys got killed. Don't forget. Numerous guys got killed over this big thing this was. Maybe even more than we even know you know besides. What was it not patsy? Patty. PHILLY PHILLY PARISI GETS killed. You might like it. And who knows how many other people probably newer the other guy the guy on the boat? I try guy with Mike. That's right so numerous people. The junior's crew got killed. La. Rises up the ranks, a little based on that. He was hiding out. He didn't get killed. So Makali'i. To coastal clear so now, interesting at this concern site, the is black activists picketing the union. They don't get the jobs in the union. Learn is at Tony has hired this guy. To make this protests to mess up uncle junior basically into to to kind of mess up uncle junior's whole operation. In the construction business. Activists played by character. There's Reverend James Senior Reverend James Junior. Reverend James Junior. Play by Gregory. Williams who also wrote a book called a gallery of heroes about the LA riots. He actually saved the life of a Japanese American guy who was about to be probably beaten to death by the rioting crowd. Yeah, he wrote a book about the La Riots. In addition to being an actor and being a lot of. Projects? A lot of stuff. Yeah, a lot of work yeah. Father Bill cobbs was in the original taking Pelham one-two-three. Great Great, great active, well respected. Just as a ton of work night into museum, demolition man, but but just a really really good actor and. Gregory I like I said I didn't know anyone and I sat next to him at the wreath through. and. You know we kind of You know. He didn't know anyone either. He was from La or working out of La. And you know we just started talking and he's done a tunnel work to Kinda series work. Solid Act. He was a big movie with Clint Eastwood play the Secret Service Guy. And he plays kind of like an Al Sharpton type. Guy. Right right what you say. How shop at tight. Yeah and You know they're organized in this protest. The father doesn't know that. You know Tony and Hammer. A Tony is in cahoots. The father is there with good intentions, and and trying to bring some justice to the situation, but the Synon- is in cahoots with Tony Soprano. Quite amazing, you know these mob guys in real life also I mean. It's amazing DISTA- tentacles I mean they're everywhere you know or they certainly were at one time. I mean construction drugs book making prostitution I mean they are everywhere. Restaurants! You know is Linen Lennon. Companies Waste. Management I mean what they have to do. Their brilliant guy some of them. If they went legit, they would be CEO's of companies, uh serious. Then we get to the Soprano House. Tony is watering driveway now. That's an Italian thing, right? The spraying they spray the leaves. They sprayed a front of their house. I mean. My grandmother used to do that. I mean they've been doing that forever. Tony's in driveway watering driveway. Is he just in the driveway with the folks? It's a great detail. Because it kind of gets out of control a little bit as it gets frustrated through the scene with Janice, who scan who's just like? She's five steps ahead of the whole thing here. You know she's she's got this endgame of. She's wants that house. Basically, absolutely, she is going to do whatever she needs to do to get this house. She's talking about her friend. Who's going to take less commission on the real, but I don't even think there is a friend. Yeah. I Yeah I don't know maybe because she was get it could possibly whatever her name is, she says you know the one with the mole on it. You know another soprano. Yeah, but I I think it's all bullshit. I think she's just she's. She doesn't plan on selling the House that she's just you know. She wants to move back that house I i. that's just my i. think she's making this all up I mean I don't believe a lot of what comes out of. She's been manipulated manipulated now. She's also been gone for a week Tony's fisted wisdom. Where's the Goddamn real estate signed Blah Blah Blah. She's she disappeared for a week. She went into. Who knows where doing what seventy? He's got some video. Instructional video that she wants to. Help video. He tells it on. Leave the car. It's not a hotel. Leave that piece of Shit. His driveway Tony's very proud of his house. Obviously, he's watering the driveway cleaning. This is a big deal to him house. Don't leave a piece of shit car It's not a hotel. We get to Livia in the hospital. She's having lunch. Janneh Sir arrives. She's Libya complains about the tapioca she can't eat. She offers it to Janice. But there's a little mistake there. Did you notice the juice box? Turns around at some point in continuity genuity I, you see the minute maid, and then another scene. It's turned around which probably was supposed to be to not show the label, but there's an she doesn't touch it up. It's obvious pretty. If you look at it closely, you could. Oh I missed that I missed continuity error there, but but listen I. Tell you what I don't. Suddenly Livia doesn't have dementia anymore. No, he's action a good mood. She wants strawberry ice cream. You know and she's actually. Kinda lively, not reading. She's fine, and there's no dementia. She knows the difference between Strawberry Ice Cream Tapioca and I mean he comes Janice. She's immediately in a bed vote Livia. Bad! Boy, right off the Bat, right? She is in a bad mood. She just feels I think she harbors a big grudge against Janice because Jonah's left. Left left Jersey left turn, and it's been an absentee daughter. you know she has a couple of interesting lines. You could never stand yourself. Livia says that the Janice? You could never stand yourself like saying you know self hatred bringing that up. Which actually Tony suffers from times to She saying that, but it's probably Livia who instill that quality in in her 'cause that into some degree, as well She also says you don't know how hard it was living with your father. You don't know the kind of man he was. And then she saying he's a say you know what I mean she's saying. To this point right right, he's been a saint. What everyone? was saying. This is the first time where she's kind of saying. You didn't know what it was like. You know I hope you have children of your own you never late you could never stand yourself. You can never stand that. You only came back from my house right? Isn't that what she says? Yeah? And she was fine with the nurse. He was in a good mood. With the ice cream she seemed very content. Janice comes in. You know just open. The window pushed me. She starts crying I. Don't know if she's playing it up for the nurse. There's no dementia incite. No guilt trips. Basically. In and they're. I guess they're doing something. They're working on some level. In the parking lot, we see Tony. Meets Jack Master Own. And now Tony's can get master owns GonNa Pay Tony to break up the protests. It's just toss. Payroll already on the payroll for so You know Ferocious job job over? This is the thing that gets me. Tony is the only guy who lives. Like a millionaire he lives a hell of a life right. He's got the Granada dinners. You CHOWS OF A. Boat there's so much money coming in. But the rest of them Julia lives like. Lives in a shit, little house like an old man. Man I mean you know he lives in Shitty House yet? He's got money coming in. As we find out later from drugs and book making and the unions I mean. Where's all the money? What is junior doing? What he? Also gets the lion's share. He so even those no show jobs. No work jobs, he gets a cut of that Tony of course. I. He's probably gets at all I. Mean gives junior policemen. I'm saying juniors got plenty of money coming in also. But he lives. He just lives like a guy sitting on the couch. No. Very ordinary. Old Man I don't see. No flash is always right. It's something that I wanted to ask you understand so. Tony tells her it's going to cost you on top of. You. Know on top of. It's GONNA cost you. For Tony to open, lead the way with juniors guys to come down there, he says make sure you call animal control. What does that mean? I don't know I. was GonNa ask you to say anything. That's that's a question. Maybe somebody knows I gotta ask Mitchell Robert or Frank. What does that mean? Don't forget to call animal control. The car I don't know. I don't know that's a really good question. I'm not sure. And then he says make sure you don't. Get followed. Robin. Hood Animal Control. It's because Tony's GonNa hat Tony's going to round up the gang to go to to go in there. Yes, I am not quite sure what that means. And the Guy who played Jack Master is Robin to Stereo I. Believe he's married to Judith. Judas. Lick shoot it light. on WHO's the boss? She played Tony Danza. The blonde girl she's a great Broadway actress does a lot of work. He's a really good guy. He's a writer also. Numerous episodes, good guy, good guy, good actor and his wife Judith. Getting the last thing, but what else is new? I barely know my listening. Speaking of your last name, the next scene is the pork store and the very first scene. Bobby buckle up and. Was this the first thing you shot or no, yes, it's judith light by the way. But this is the first scene shot I. Got Hired. I got the call in like got hired. I came to New York for a wedding. I got the job. In, for wedding I flew back I read for David Jason. A whole bunch of producers. It was about fifteen people, and then they called me in June. One Thousand Nine, hundred ninety nine sent me the script, and that's when I saw all the fat jokes, and that's when I honestly said. I'm not that much fatter than him. Jokes don't make sense, so you started gaining weight. Like crazy. What I started. I started saying I said to my wife. Maybe they hired the wrong guy I? I'm not understanding this and then kind of a few days later. I got a call. You need to be fitted for fat shoot, so I flew out to New York or early. had pay my own way. They only paid me thirty five hundred for the episode, which is kind of scale back then and I. Put Myself Up. I stayed near the meadowlands. WHO's we were shooting out there? They would pick me up I had no lift so I. Had to pay for the hotel had van and I stayed like Eddie Mair Ya I got a a re corporate rate from a friend of mine and I work two or three days on the episode, and I stayed at the hotel. van came took me back and forth you know, and this was my first seen in was the trailers. Wizard Carney right the carney, Jersey yeah, and so That's where I met everyone for the first time my trail, and then we will sit outside waiting amid vinny Vinnie Pastorin I. Met Tony, Show Rico and Steve Van Zandt who I think we knew. Couple of Saint people, everyone couldn't be nicer. I hadn't met. Jim Yet you know you nervous. You know I wasn't nervous, but I was concerned. I guess you call it. You know I was prepared I. Think you only really get nervous? Not Prepared I mean I worked hard on this. I worked back in Vegas with enacting coach. I knew who this guy was. and I know you hired for more than one or just this one. Just as fun this one you didn't know they were going to be another episode did not know. That's why my agent originally. I said don't take it then. They're not paying your way to giving you. You know crappy money. Pat Advice. Yeah. He's no longer my agent who really bad advice. He's no longer my age. But? he said, don't take the job. He said they're not treating you right and by Papa listen. After Commission. I barely broke even. You know right, but that's how it. You got to take I. AM vested in myself. You. Vinnie Penn Store said to me when I first met him, he said Oh. You know you're you're gonNA take my place. He said they're killing me off. This second the first day first day. Maybe he said they're killing me off at the end of the season. You know how many fat fucks could have on the show. But that's how many I. told me. You know. He said they're killing me off all. He had heard that killing him off whatever it was something like that and you know so Barca for the first time comes in. Right Pussy leads him in This was in the shot. It looks like at nine time, but it was in the middle of it was early in the morning. and. You know. Jim could be nicer tried to scam me took a few takes, but. You know. You think when you saw this episode for the first time. How'd did you feel? I didn't like the stuff in the bookstore. I see when I'm looking down at the flaw. I didn't like that at all. The other stuff I guess question I. instinctually addict, the other stuff came out. Okay. You know the stuff later on. You know there's four scenes. The introduced character pretty big here you know. From the first thing they mentioned him in the first thing. Yeah, and numerous times. He also mentioned him again later. Getting I would've never if I do get out so early I would've never talked to. Mike to the blimp. There's all these fat references you know. And Ironically Bokola got skinnier and Tony Soprano got heavier to. It will the. Season to season three. She's four to get off. At some point in the scene, the thing that I like. Bobby shows a little bulls. Oh Yeah I. Don't think you have reason to talk to me. Ever always liked you, he. Steps Up Just take, Shit, Oh, yeah, should you have no reason to talk to be that way? He does and even junior. He's like he doesn't just kiss you. News asks. He kind of like. You know in the scene in the doctor's office when he tells the joke is like no i. get the You know you don't laugh. That's a funny joke. You know you're like yeah. I know. He's getting his own mind. I thought that was pretty good evening. To Tony, threatens to kill him to find you eight different dumpsters, and of course the. Three call during the scene. I didn't know came up to me which he's been known to do. After you say that line. Look at me. Look at you. Let me get my Mug in there. Because Directing Danny tell you were gonNA get whacked at some later on when I spit it Tony Unquote sexy insensitive cock sucker he went. You're dead. You're dead, you don you're? Here. Really set to me. This is the whole first week of working. You Know I. Said I didn't know a so Kim couldn't have been nicer after I finish the scene. It was cameras part of the club. You know I guess because everyone's looking at you. Let's see what this guy got. If. You're not coming back right. You're done. Yeah two things are looking to see how if you're going to be good as an actor and if you're going to be a guy. We're good actor in an asshole. That wouldn't work either yeah. Everyone could be. Joined the club and then I think if that scene, we went to shoot A. Scene in the doctor's office which will get to now the next week in the hospital pussies recovering from back surgery rife Louie La Guardia is playing skip Lipari. That's the original. That is what I read for originally I. Read for Skip Lapore. you know Louise Role. I'm Lucky Louie was fantastic at any of these fantastic guy. He's got a tunnel works shitty. Great Guy, go go from the Bronx. Friend ours. Very good choice for this I think it was important for. PUSSIES character to have. Because Louis Lombardi could have been a guy in the crew. Dresses in a jogging suit. He looks like a guy from the neighborhood. And I think that was important for pussy to feel comfortable in dealing with the feds going through this guy. You know what I mean, it's not like some. American white bread guy in a suit that he had. Put them at ease in a lot of ways, and you know he's you know. He's a little out of the doctor's telling him. He's going to be fine blah blah. Blah pushy got operated on his back then he's with the car was. We. It's confirmed here that they can pushy a Iraq. Confirmed if you had any doubts before that. Right here, he's Herat. He's been around for two years. Because this is two thousand, right? This was shot in one thousand nine. It would be released in two thousand and that was. What we were shooting for, it would be like two thousand, so yeah, Ninety eight he's. He's a raffle two years. And Pussy says he's no Tony for thirty years and skip, says you play into ends against the middle I. Mean these guys can't be you know even though they're Herat, they can't be legit. They got a scam. Somebody who sees getting paid. He's milking this and you know, skip says Tony's just a Yuppie who treats you like an era boy, and obviously big pussy has complained to skip. Yeah he's complaining, but he still feels horrible. You know he's still loyal. Their childhood friends right then. You know they're buddies. I mean I guess he's closer to a pussy that in any of the guys? Christopher younger so that's different than the more familial thing, but. In terms of It's Pussy and. Out of the guys and so born, you know, and and skip is working. Emmett saying this guy doesn't care about you ultimately. He's going psycho ikat psychiatrist and he's all. He's kind of a mass, and you're doing what you should be doing, and he says if you. You know we want to see results. 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That's less than three dollars a month for complete digital privacy head to private Internet access DOT COM slash Talking Sopranos Right now to get started. Let's get back to the episode. So this scene where the judge's chambers right a junior wheelchair and he looks firm your whole he's. He's only late sixties here Dominic Kray. Sixty eight I. Think says eighty seven but you know he's you know. Obviously, it's kind of an act. He looks frail is an oxygen. Tank! You got the great. Richard Now Right. WHO's done? He's in it. If there's a movie he has been in. Let me know what that is because he's done a lot of work. He's a really good actor at a really good guy, and she calls him an old mafia also. And MOW void takes you know takes offense to that says he has been rush into one, thousand, nine, hundred, Sixty, eight, which is. Why thirty years ago and flashback from down neck. I guess when you see him at the carnival getting arrested. That might have been what he's referring to. Right now and he's a world. War Two vet. The judge seems to Twenty S to say, but junior screws up a little when. You feel about it and junior says I feels like not to Turkey. The judge doesn't like that doesn't go over. It's one of the several World War Two references. In this episode we'll get. We'll get for into it as we go, but that's World War Two has a definite presence in this episode. We get to the Brownstone and I. Guess this is in Newark Right. I think it's Jersey City actually. I think so yeah. They have Brownstone in Jersey City. So he he's going to visit Reverend James and at this point. We don't know that he's. he's in in business. Tony Bill cobbs plays you the the river. The forty while my son, the father told. He's looking at pictures. He invites him into the house. World War Two again. He sees that he was Served in the war started there when he was twenty eight years old. They have a nice conversation He brings him out once again. Coke must be doing product placement because he brings to cancer coke. And they talk religion a little bit Tony tells them about the history channel the river. Jd Three is Oh, now let me ask you that lie that he says never underestimate a man's determination to be free. Now it hits Tony hit home. Is that a reference to? Big Pussy Being, a SNITCH. Do anything to be free is a reference to junior. I think seen. An. The next scene is Tony Junior I. Think this is really. Set Up to get Tony in touch with those feelings for junior because he looks at this guy like he looks at uncle June they're both were veterans. They're both. From the same generation and it kind of opens in the next scene, he's holding a heart almost putting this heart model back together, and it's like his heart is broken. Heart that he felt over his uncle, trying to get him killed is now somehow did and I think this. Reverend Seniors Groundwork for that this scene reverend senior. At least it's their side by side these things. Show there the doctor's office right like you should We're going to get out I. Talk to that Council Lakes another. They're digging bockel our all over the place. He's getting dinged the Blimp Council would like. I I guess I would have felt bad maybe. If I was fat, but since I knew was. Aware of that suit, so what you know. And he tells me about Freddy Cup know. From Green Growth, he's been talking shit about the soprano family and trying to deflect stuff. You know he's trying to deflect. Junior try to have tony killed yes. Oh, he's now he's talking. About Freddie Capuano is spreading rumors about him and Livia. No, it's this big deflection of blame. I mean it's like the fact that these two guys that are in the same room. Talking to each other is amazing. After. And, but Tony You could tell really cares about him. You know even here, you know. He wants to make peace. And Juniors cost denying it I'm not as dumb as you think he played. Blah Blah and Tony says he has. He had a reason for them. We don't know that reason Tony's probably line I had a reason for the couples meeting at Green Grove. Tony says that I had a reason for it and. Tuna is livid that pretty Cupo that had peace mother happy. He's Carson up and down, and it's the very funny another thing it separate sopranos from other shows. The doctor. In a doctor's office. Kinda privileged. They can't bug a doctor's office. It's Monte Shrek Kid. WHO's now cardiologists? And SCHRATT MO MONTY strike was bookie Mookie bookie. Son is now a cardiology. That mob gambling money went to. Good use in the in the Shrek family. The next thing they're talking about D. N. A., you know. Another theme that's kind of going through this episode. You know this you know the bonds of family, the inheritance of qualities from the elders and all that. The scenes come come together. Side by side here, it's really interesting. The next scene in the soprano house at dinner. Janice. ID brings up that he Robert. others character brings up that he studying DNA. And she'd had us. Janisch wants to listening right I mean. Can my girlfriend have the listing and she's relentless. Shannon She's evil personified. She sucking up to tell me you're seeing. She brings a Bolivia at. Tony says he doesn't WANNA. Talk about it. This is my house. And I think this is where. Aj. Tells the joke what to. Say to the other. Which I'm not going to give you the punchline now. I know it I. Know What? Something like! I, can't he? I'm inside A. Not that funny trust me. All right, it's not worth saying. and HE MAC and cheese. Tony says best to Mecca cheese to all this. You know never stops eating nick scene. Where at the waterfront you side a bridge that's related to the bridge bridge in the background. Freddie Cup one week. We know he's gone. Yes. That was that was very funny. You had a blonde to pay blonde. To. So metal drives with Janice. MINNOWS! You know has a permit. She's Driving Janice that talked about Tony's of noxious. He's insecure he's. Middle says. She's working at Channel Right Genesis capitalizing non meadows co conflicts with the fog on her side and get some intelligence in a reconnaissance on Livia. What is Libya into and she brings up the music and that's going to be one of her ways into view. Did this the Castro. Sisters now listen you. Get take fully shitty. The Castro sisters lived in Vegas. Okay. I think they were born here. Their mother married Matilda. Cubans yeah. They lived in Cuba, but I knew them. I knew two of them. I don't know if all three were as and I'm not kidding. There was a place called alias Smith and Jones. It was a big hang out. It was a bar and a restaurant, and all the deal is show showgirls. After work. Place was open twenty four hours a day, but it wasn't a club. It was a bar and everybody hung out there and at midnight stay would give. It was like reverse happy hour. They would get give free chicken wings and I'm not bullshit. They would come in. Sit there. One drink I worked at for a while. They sat there eight. Two dozen chicken wings each had like one tweet each, and they would hang out at Elliot's with Joel's that the Castro sisters. This is a early nineties late eighties when ago where they performing and Vegas Lounge. They had stopped. They stopped I. Think by then for the most part you know what I mean they I think they. They formed there in the sixties, and even earlier, they were kind of a big act. They were good what they did. They did a movie Bubba and Maybe a poor man's. Man's Lennon sisters. Cuban. Style decastro says when I heard that I forgot all about that they were. Chicken wing hoarders ate chicken wings from. The doctor's waiting room junior bobby this disease. This is the scene where I addition. Addition this. Foxtrot seen. This scene is the one where I read. I read for where junior bobby. Orr in the doctor's office. You know I think we're running late. Because you see the, it's a weird angle kind right? There's no close ups if you know. No close to were running late where we're getting a little behind. And this myself. I believe this is the first time I I'd be dominant. Can I work with Dominic and you know reading modern maturity magazine. It's very, it's it's so obvious when when a mess around comes in and hands the envelope, it could be any more obvious. I guess because it's an optometrist office. People that can't see well, so they felt a little bit okay about that right? Is that the point? Yeah, yeah, the one guy has dark glasses. Yeah, drops in his eyes. It's mostly older people. junior tells a very. Booty incorrect joke I don't think you could tell that joke anymore. Found Sopranos. Counteracts A. Junior says he needs new frames the it's very funny. Ex Guy, what did they cost I never seen a bill. Nice country, and he's worried about his look on TV, superior. Which I find hilarious. Also what's interesting is when the cut from this scene. Because you're an optometrist office, they're talking about cataracts and people with problems cuts to Livia with their eyes closed then she opens her eyes. And everything's blurry. Yes, first, and then comes into focus, and there is Janice work in her mother. She's got the flowers. She's got the music non non. Could Dr Demi which means, don't forget me. Don't forget about me and Italian, it's poverty. She's got roses and she's just trying to work the mother here how she does work at they wind up holding hands and kissing each other's hands. You never saw Olympia this scene. This I mean this is incredible. He's working at their. Both Evil and Janice is working. Working Livia likes it. Libya likes it very much. She likes to flowers. She likes to music. They talk about Mario. Lonzo which my mother loved Mary. Alonso he was. A stringer back then in the fifties. And Sixties and then the next scene we got janisch tribes on for the hospital, mother and child. Reunion JETTAS has a Scorpion ring I guess that's her birth sign, but it's also. The Scorpion dangerous. Creature that you have to beware you know and she's also referred to as a snake in the grass by Libya later in this episode, and if you remember in sees episode one as that image of the Pool Vacuum yes, Janice by the pool, and we member could about it's like a snake. So there's these kind of dangerous. And, so this? is a reference though her watch shows four twenty. That's par prints we'd reference. Isn't it really? Is and her. Her Watch says that four twenty Oh. That's Pretty Funny Twenty Day. Tony Meets Bobby in the parking lot, or you know that Song mother-child reunion you know. The title of that was from a Chinese restaurant menu. It was a dish, mother and child, reunion, chicken, and egg together the mother and child, and that's what Paul Simon got from. Fan Too yeah me, too. That's pretty funny. Oh. His on that record back. Background singer on that record seceded Houston was mother of Whitney. To Make A. I eat at the toes, a great singer. She sings, but she's really good that you. Really good singer. So. Tony Makes Bobby. and. Bobby did that on purpose getting out of the car. That way know you see? He really struggles. You. Get it out of the car. You know that I did it was? So. You know I just started a life of his stomach. Was that big? You know and it was really hot, and then you see the bridge again and it took us a while to get that train over the bridge. It's a really good shot. Tony Standing there the trains going by turns around six. Bobby walks out of the car. And you know he says you should start to really. CONSIDER EATING SALADS. I'll. Be takes it. To Heart, a little bit hands of the package, he gets off the on you fat fuck! said he really digs him and he says a beat at a mall. We need your help. So come to the construction site once again as he does later on. He forces bobby to do something. He doesn't WANNA. Do in the latest season. It's a way it's a power. Move again. You'll be there tomorrow. They don't want to be there. He wants them there. Now the salad. You know that right so when we cut out of the scene cuts to an image of. and. He just mentioned salad, which is kind of funny and the families eating dinner again? talking about DNA again. You know and there's a DNA connected. You Got Libyan Tony. And Janice and You know all this familial stuff. Met brings up parallel parking. She got her license, but she was very nervous about parallel parking and in the very last episode. Of the Sopranos the FI final final episode she is trying to parallel park and having a tough time with it so. He talks about YOU WANNA sausage. Oh, you don't eat pork. In that way I. J thinks he knows he's inside on the joke which it is, that's what Tony does mean not that she's a vegetarian right, and he does that in soprano home home movies. Song under the boardwalk with a slogan John's mouth, and also in another episode, whatever season five or four He said you were on the road blowing roadies. Made reference to how blowing road. He's at one. Yeah so now that we're out at the pool. Tony and Janice and You know she's. She's working her game here. You know the twenty brings up. What when you were in Seattle. Did you go by Jimi? Hendrix House I. Don't think that's a reference to Paulie, walnuts giving them wedgies. Or Rico given him wedgies think that's a direct reference to that, but it may I'm not sure. Tony's like you know. He's Janice wants to take Livia home. Data's want a house. She wants to take Libya home and Tony's like. Take a back to Green Grove, which he's not GonNa pay for which means they'd have to sell the house. And that money would go to green grove, which means. Janice wouldn't get any of it now. So that's not an option. Either and journalists has no place to live I. Mean She's She's a busted Wli. She's got no place to live. She needs a house. She's wherever she whatever happened in Seattle she needs to come back. She's got nowhere to live. This is going to be had ticket I'm all. Mother should get high should whatever she does, you know way of not having a split. The House with the other siblings 'cause she says well. I'm living here. I'm taking care of Ma. Basically, it's Kinda give more of a claim to it. A? Tony says she says to Tony. Mom is okay. You know she's finishing up Rehab. and. He should. There was nothing wrong with her in the first place, which it certainly like. She's got the mentioned in this episode. No! She's very lucid in this episode. the construction say the activists protested. Tony watching from car behind Bush's Big Pussy and You. Know you say you should have sort of look on. A. Face Bokola when I told him how to be a pussy, says Michael has always been lazy, and he says I hope you're okay with me, Tony says he's kind of fishing for compliment. It, looks to me big pushy and kill hits guilt, and it comes Matt and Sean, the two idiots that work for you the stockbrokers. Calling Tony's name out and going up to the car, he pulls away. They're not the move. And then we shoot the battle where the you know the trying to break up the protest, and that was a big cluster. Fuck to shoot. I have to say it was just a lot of chaos and confusion and. It was really hard. There was a lot of. Time you when you were aloof to me I met you I was in that scene I was aloof, very aloof to me I somebody introduce you know Michael. China like no I didn't. I don't do that kind of big time. High handed me. No Way. I'm show. To the most. I saw you all. Season two. I had never seen him I never worked with you. And that was the only time in that big seed. Maybe you're concentrating. Pro. I had nothing against us. And and and Mauka la a you see them. You know which was scripted where he's hitting the guy and he'd take Steve Brett's. He's out of breath. That was it was very hot day. Really hot and really chaotic, and not an easy scenes shoot. It was kind of a mess and listen. Martin was the first time director. What's wasn't easy. Not Easy for any director. That was hard seen Janice visits Livia. My, we're going to get out of the assume. We're going to go back to the House Livia doesn't want to go. Suddenly Green Grove is great fresh towels. She likes it. She likes getting waited on. Libya when we come in is reading obituaries again? Of seventy-three-year-old died of heart failure. Libya rather stay agreed grow. She likes it. After complaining to Tony, every, single time she saw him enter junior. How could you put me in there? She wants to go back there. She's being offered to go. Because it's nice. She's just slide. He was just. You know manipulating people she. Nurse puts the DNR. The do not resuscitate vogue in Janez ear here do not resuscitate. That means you'll get the house quicker. Pure pure pure evil. You know I mean really pure evil. That's that's what this is i. mean they are cut from the same court all day long you know and she has ice cream in the next scene AJ's making some ice cream, and also I think refers to Johnny Soprano is that running seem here's ice cream? Genesis. You know she's talking about the power of attorney. She's still working on working finally. Of course, he says who gives a fuck. You deserve each other bub, go liberty each other. She says you can't I. Just want to make peace with my brother. Can't you know she gets away and then she gloats? You see face. She's Kinda gloating. I got my way. Getting scared. You know I think he's getting scared Aj about the DNR. You know he's not quite sure that means and see the look on his face. You know and Tony says it'll be like whatever happened to what happened Baby Janice referring to the movie. What happened maybe Jane? It's an because the two who are at each other's throats, basically in one's going to sell the house and the other one's afraid. She's going to be put Silom, so it's and one of them is in a wheelchair. It's great. It's a great reference to and the Kids WanNa. Go visit meadow. Who really wants to go see her friend. And she wants to see hunters in the eating disorder, war, or whatever and meadow goes to see how delivery is watching Emerald member admiral. WHO's a great guy? I've worked with these terrific guy. And I consider him a friend, but. In the late nineties, he was on fire member with Bam. Big show that was when he first. Right yeah. And she's watching it and enjoying it, and it's got a smile on her face, and she's happy to see. Aj Gimme a kiss she offers. Some of the Italian candy and She says Jedis cubs every day to play. Pinochle so Janice working. She's happy. You know what I mean. She's Janice always competent she's. Taking care of a girl. Stay better care of their MOMS. You know what I. Mean She also once again. Age Aj gives up some information. Yes and she's in a good mood. Dementia living at what again though dementia she mentions. Emerald didn't wash his hands, not even Washington saying. Yeah. He says about the DNR diskettes Livia Thinking Livia. is worried. Hospital Hospital Therapy Center Livy is a physical therapy. Trance comes got great news Ma. Tony's not going to sell the house when you get released. We're going to take you back home and. I've got to live with you and she doesn't like that suddenly. She's got dementia. She's working giants. What about the money? Where's the money I I? She says she used to buy amphetamines in front of the nurse to embarrass her young. About the money for the ballet shoes. Go by academy, and after that nurse leaves, this scene becomes really amazing. I mean it's like a chess match between these two conniving minds I mean really it's all this weird unspoken history and power moves here. You know Livia throws out. The money is their money or is not money. You know whatever it is. She knows she's Got Janice right here when she brings up the fact that Oh, I have money hidden in the house and I don't know where is an I told you about it genesis like. He's on the hook. And, she tells the the therapist. She's GonNa leave the money to her. Right she tells exactly. They square off and and. They are like looking and each other in the mirror. Exact. Same seen is incredible. The acting here and Livia brings up the money as a way to protect yourself if you think about it right because as long as She says that there's money somewhere. That is going to to nothing. And Janice to sign of the fire sign right and she pitches Livia falling down. The stairs and Libya brings up the kiss of death. Richard Mark We replaced Tommy Yudo. That movie recos favorites where he pushes the lady down the stairs in the wheelchair. That's referring to. Yet cause the deaths. It's a really good movie. Johnny says. Let's go home and find the money and she calls his team. She's going back and forth with dementia. She's messing with her. Falling down the stairs is a big thing to in this in our show. You know you'll have You know they bring up Johnny. Soprano fell down the stairs. It was one of the only times Livia laughed. Remember that when they bring them. And then in in episode, twelve and season to Tony falls down the stairs at Libya's house and Livia laughs, she smiles. That's right. That's right, you know. I gotTa tell you. Either got nominated for this season. For an emmy and was well deserved I. Mean for this season season two I believe so really wow. Just incredible, don't the two of them together they would. Look you a mirror evil evil evil that was. Incredible Scene Yeah you and Nancy Marshawn is so good that you don't know. I mean this of guessing about dementia I mean she plays it so incredible you know. What kind of accent. Where is she from? Nancy? I don't know. That's not a New York. Accent now it sounds a little New England ish! Maybe I'm not sure. Junior singing and dominic has we know is a wonderful singer. He singing in the shower he falls. That's a real house in Newark. They had not built junior set yet tonight. Location then we go to. The River House and they're singing? Hymns outside The father died for the died and I think this also plays into now. Tony going to help junior, you know. A because we we, we spoke about their connection on Marshall was born in Buffalo upstate New York But the connection at Tony has seen this this older guy and relating to uncle junior now the guy dies, and then the next thing. Tony asked to hope so I think that's. Laying the groundwork and it also says that they're going to do some scams together in the future with the Reverend, junior regarding asbestos. They're going to be in cahoots in the future. The Reverend is corrupt. You know I I gotTA. Tell you I completely forgot about that so when I was watching the episode. I haven't seen it so long I, forgot that the reverend was in on it. You know I really did I just completely forgot? And he explains where the elders now and dig. It does strike a chord with Tony Hey. you know come on? We're still young guys, but Papa said Yeah. To go any time soon, but. You know now that my father is gone. He's the head of the family back to the Soprano House Libya Kohl's committee interest a phone. How dare you call here and she says I just want to, you know. What Pettis I have I leave to the children. She calls her Johnny. So does she have the? This is. She's planning seeds here. She's laying groundwork money now. She puts the bug in Camilla's. She Calls Janice a snake in the. She said two of the kids turned out. Okay, and I assume she's meaning Janice was just no good one correct. She's playing the sides. You know both sides against the middle here. She's hang master manipulator. Now this nick seen. It was at junior's house, so tony coming out now before. You know. Before the scene. Think! We had shot. We're waiting. We chat another seen in the daytime and we you know we had a big break and Jim said let's go run lines and we went to his trailer. It was me him dominic. Running lines and. I don't know how to explain it like an auto body experience. It's like. I said to myself hotter. Fuck that I get here. I would just watching these guys on TV now in the trailer. It was almost like make believe. So I come into. You know Tony Soprano Awka junior and me in trailer running lines. You know what I mean. You either have that feeling. It's like I had. Sure where you're going I will. How did I get here? What would? Happen. Yeah I remember I did a casting fever right, but spike had seen a screening of Goodfellas and he cast a lot of actors from good fills jungle fever, so we did a big read through. At spikes office in Brooklyn Forty acres and Anthony Quinn was at the read through a meter was. Always, a rehearsal and I was walking back I was GONNA walk back to Manhattan from Brooklyn Walk over the bridge, and then this carpools over, and it's John, determine spike in the car and the Jones like you WanNa ride, so I get in the back seat and I'm driving and I'm like. You know and I knew John's work. I was a big fan of his. And of course I knew spikes work and I'm like in the backseat going. This is pretty wild, so oh, exactly what you mean. How did I hear? You know it was really something. I also felt that way when I did a Colombo talked about before I was in the last Colombo. Peter Falk was my mother's favorite actress actor, and I met Peter and I know your friends repeated and we went to, he said come on back to my trail, and we went and we ran lines. Bond and even when I was working with him, I was in the Little Peugeot had a little costs and I'm going I guess I'm. Doing the scene. I'm going I'm fucking sitting here talking to Peter. I know he was amazing. so Tony Arrives Bockel is dead. Junior had families on the couch. Michael obviously called Tony. And he doesn't want to. He doesn't want to Nabeel Junior. Being a macho guy doesn't wanNA. Get Old. He's getting old. He doesn't want to admit to. That Julia says I mean collages. I think he might have broken hip. Fuck you provide us. You know. He doesn't WanNa by that, and he says. Don't let me go to my grave with this guilt. Make things right, we mother. And that's a really big deal. Friend. Edge and Tony picks up like a baby. Only picks them up like a baby. I remember doing it. It took you know Jim, Dillard, three or four five times. Tumors are strong guy picked. A prominent dominates not that little. No and it just shows that he in. Virginia gives a forgives him. To carry somebody out a big deal. Listen I hold a grudge guy guy tries to kill me I. Don't think I'm so forgiving. Yeah, it's pretty amazing and this song goodnight my love. It's Ella Fitzgerald is couple of lines of lear, a couple of lyrics here. Your Mommy's kneeling beside you. My moment with you is ending. Kind of prophetic. We were shooting outside. It was a beautiful night and I sat with Dominic. For hours between takes and. I got to know him and he was so. You know without saying anything of seeing much. You use your belly. Use your belly fat should. We just talked and. You know I've felt so comfortable. You Know He. Didn't you know with some actors? You work with you going Holy Shit our This Guy Frankie you know he was just so nice so soothing, and then Jim was pulling away. When we finished for the night we wrapped, and it was I was finished. This was last seen that I shot, and Jim would drive was pulling away in the SUV and. Jim waved and I waved to him and. I said I'll see you man and. He backed up. Got Out of the car out of band that on his head, you know and he said we shook hands. Hug Me Send. You did good. You did good. He said We'll see again. We'll see again. Kind of like what I did with you on that first day. I don't really remember meeting at them. I, don't know so. I was a non entity. You'll remember. You weren't that friendly to me. You remember John Tory I was a fan of John Turrell. Don't say I can't believe I'm here with Steve Ripples. Not You believe me I I that. I said that this morning before we went on the air. All right well good show. Now part of the part of the CAST Thank you for Juliet postcode yet. Let's do our ask me anything. Question of the week episode talking. Sopranos is supported by Bose, headphones. You can experience immersive audio anywhere with the new bose noise cancelling headphones seven hundred. The winner of our asked me anything S. question of the week is Mary from what Jersey and we're GonNa Send Mary. We're going to send Mary a set of headphones. Marianne, you guys anything like your characters in real life. Do you think you would hang out with your characters? And do you think Christopher and bobby would be fringe in real life? I don't know understand. Bobby was a gangster. I'm not but. I I think I have a family guy like him. He was a good guy so i. consider myself a pretty good guy hey. I'm not a killer. I'm not a you know. Bobby did bad things. He didn't live in the mark that long. For not doing bad things, but. He didn't have go modern. He was a family guy, dickey. Really Kid I think that's why he winds up marrying Janice show. She can help take care of his kids So maybe you know I think. I am a little bit like I also hopefully a much smarter than him. and. I would hang out with bockel or maybe I. Don't think I'd want to hang out with Christopher. Make me uncomfortable I. Try to stay away from people like him. LOOSE CANNON! Yeah, loose Kennedy Yeah. He's in he's impulsive and you know he's he. He finds a lot of problems with people is is always a beefs with people. He's unstable in Oh. He's not my who? He reminds me of a Kinda guy which I've been around unfortunately. Things are going good. You say one thing. What do you mean by that? What does that mean? You don't want those Kinda guys you and especially if he has a few drinks. Or whatever. I don't think. Bobby. Probably know some good restaurants I. Don't know I don't mind. I would go out to lunch with. Bobby seems like an okay guy. He's a bobby I. Hang Out with Bobby Than Christopher for sure and I don't think Christopher. Bobby would be friends. They were like they got along business wise, but they weren't running the same circles I know not the. They don't have that much in common. Bob! And Bobbie was in. He wasn't around. The bottom being too much. You know he was there a few ties man. I don't think he went there. If it was a business, you know. No. No, he wasn't A. He? He didn't fool around I. Don't think he didn't do drugs. Not a drug guy now. Christopher. I. Don't think I'm like Christopher. Times. And I would. You'd say I remember. We were hanging out a couple times. You like. You're turning into Chrissy right now. Snap De. Snapped a few place. Few places I saw. Yeah I guess at some point. That was a good question. Thank you marry from West and you can all learn more at Bose Dot. Com B. O. S. E.. Dot Com about the noise cancelling headphones seven hundred thanks for listening and remember new episodes released every Monday. Please describe the Talking Sopranos podcast wherever you get your podcast. Follow us on twitter and instagram and please like us on facebook. Our Executive Producer Jeff Sussman, producers and Evert Rahm. Our music was composed and performed by Elisa Amazon. You can hear more of Elijah's music by clicking the link on Talking Sopranos Dot Com. Our production crew includes Eric. deshea Bobby Hutch Frank Mackay Tibert around. And SIERRAS shirtless. Talking Sopranos is a pod jams production. Right man, that was a good show. Thank you, Juliet, everyone, please. Describe, throughout my cash and hope you're enjoying it. I know I'm enjoying doing it. Believe Michael you are also. I hope to see Kristie at some point something Agai-. Will make an appearance on the show. I guess that'll be fun. Michael won't be on. I'll come on as Christopher. I'd like. To do that. Out of the garage. I also had assured that I got killed off. House good I'll talk to you. Later.

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Marie Denee - Episode #243

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Marie Denee - Episode #243

"<music> this is this unease Lewis show the number one podcast for women with your host Queen Kirby Conversation sinise Lewis <music> welcome to the show. I'm your host and Louis today is Monday July twenty nine twenty nineteen make sure you this show social media pages on facebook at the Shani's as Lewis show and on instagram and twitter at Shinichi show and make sure you subscribe to the show on apple podcast Google podcast spotify or your favorite podcast app the she needs Lewis Show as an official media partner at the Twenty Nineteen Gene P._C._S. style expo happening August ninth through the eleventh at the Omni Hotel at the C._N._n.. Center in Atlanta for tickets and more information visit W._W._W.. Dot T. C. F. Style Expo Dot Com and speaking of the T._C._i.. CFL Expo. We have a very special guest on the show today. 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I'm good. How are you with the countdown to the expo? Oh you know as as as crazy as could be as crazy as well yeah right well before we get into the expo. I WanNa talk about your blog I because one of the number one questions I get asked is. How can I be featured on the Kirby fashioned? He's the blogs people always ask me that and I don't know why they asked me that. I guess they know we're friends but I have nothing to do with the content on your blog so I want you to give an answer but everybody is. What is the proper protocol to be featured on the Kirby Fashion Easter? You know it's actually very very simple. All you have to do is send us with an email you can email info or news at the refashion east does if you're a new brand. Send US your press. Release Your dropbox link for images into all that information in one nice email introduce yourself. Let us know what you're doing and you know from there. We'll be able to let you know from a timing space when we'll be able to Ngong is it aligns with the brand and with the with our content <hes> we will work to make sure that we best support so what type of content doesn't align with the brand or things that you are not interested in covering on your blog. I don't okay. I don't cover weight loss. I don't cover diet stuff. I don't cover <hes> like those are like the most of the two top things <hes> I do cover things from a plus size fashion lifestyle perspective so new designers collaborations store openings <hes> <hes> and we work <hes> and you know we have a big big big big soft spot for our indies in these are the lifeblood <hes> we do ask that you have a website that <hes> professionally done so that we can send people to that also feel confident making a purchase via your site. So do you try to stick. Nick to fashion and beauty exclusively or sometimes you add in lifestyle things to oh. We're totally adding more lifestyle as well. I like you know if you're a brand that you know has like for example Erica Watson in had a beauty launch and so we covered her stuff but if there's like you know. Can we all go. That's a plus size at for products in how to navigate the plus face like we talk about that as well <hes> sometimes we cover redating. Sometimes you cover travel. Sometimes we cover accessories so it all just depends <hes> the timing of you know what time of the year you're sending something and what it does the lines so these the only the best way that you can't find out if you should have been emailing at now. This is another question I get asked about you and your block 'cause I get. I don't I'm the plug for Marie. I guess now I know Oh you get a lot of emails and I know you do not have time to respond to all of them so say for instance. You're not interested in covering something you don't necessarily saying out decline letters. You only respond to the things you're interested in correct <hes> some time like I think you know we do get quite a few emails so the squeaky wheel gets the oil right so don't have to take to follow up because sometimes it just may not have been seen or four. Sometimes you know our emails automatically. Send things to spam right so it's just best to do a follow up email and <hes> also to inbox us. You know like you can be a must. <hes> you know via facebook or Instagram so you know if there's something that you've spent in it's time sensitive and you WanNa make sure that we get our eyeballs on it but you can follow up in those areas too now. Are you seeking writers and contributors for Your Block. I'm always speaking writers like right now. I'm looking for <hes> distributors who can consistently contribute you know <hes> <hes> ideally at least once a week <hes> we are starting to ramp up our content planning and so for me and our content strategy so for me. It's really important to <hes> you know build out our team. <hes> depending on what the topics these are in the word count <hes> you know we'll be able to negotiate everything from their perfect so your event is an extension of your blog so tell us how your vision <hes> for the T._C.. Sa Expo came about you know it's funny. You know we'll see the Kirby has been around for ten years now. So it's like crazy so this December we turn eleven and I've gone to different of and and while I was still in California gone I my cousin and I had gone individually to this one of it and we were like talking about it. <hes> about like what was missing and ingest she should just that I do something but for people I had a vision of what <hes> I should be doing. <hes> I kinda sat on it out of fear <hes> moved here to Atlanta kind of poses the perfect place to kind of test this and from there like the Kirby foster nieces literally bringing the blog <hes> now turned visible platform to life right so we are you know bringing these indy designers we're bringing different conversations and through <hes> panel discussions and keynotes <hes> and having fun and then a safe like celebratory space while doing it and at the time when you create a jury event there was nothing else like this in the plus size space correct <hes> I mean there have been different types of events I mean everyone has like a different angle to it so it's not so much like I. I don't know if I would say the only one we're at that time. I was the only one I think very different events that happen. <hes> whether it's like a full figured fashion week curvy con <hes> district occurs <hes> you know there's different events that happen across the you know the United States and so for me. It was something that I felt very compelled to do and to do then when I did right and so like I said you're fifth year. Anniversary is coming up very soon August ninth through. The eleventh now this year you took an took it up a notch with your special guest now. Tell US special guests. Are I mean so you know definitely we're going to Omni this year which is different the past two years. We've been at the COBB. Galleria centers your five. I'm a little fancy I wanted my event and everything to kind of reflect that and so <hes> this year we have Tasha Cobb Bob Leonard. Who is you know Gospel recording artist <hes> shoot she will be at our coffee and conversations on Sunday morning for our V._I._p.? Ticket holders we have Djabel Lynn we have Nikki Daniels. We have Ashley No Tipton Cross Mickey Gilbert <hes> and we are actually on the edge of announcing one other person. We have quite a few other people who are Krista from fat girl slow. Also we have <hes> Kenya Mali from Silvio Molly that you know from projects run way <hes> so we have a couple of different you know heavy hitters a little bit <laughter> well. That's exciting and one one thing that is specific to your event is the blogger mastermind now. Tell me a little bit more about the blogger mastermind on that Friday. I have to give a shout outs pepper mart in pretty you plus pass on this one <hes> she really pushed me out of my comfort zone <hes> to actually do this. She has shared with me like people want alarm from marine. It's not just stop passing the baton Cazar people like people wanna hear and sounds like really okay and so what I you know for me. I'm always giving information sharing and helping other bloggers kind of level up in their own spaces and so you know the blogger mastermind was away for me to share. Here's some of the things that I've learned across these ten years in blogging the business of blogging and sharing what those essentials are. You know you WanNa talk about making money you WanNa Talk About S._E._O.. And getting page views and building that audience like these are the essentials and the building blocks that will be talking about at the blocker masterminding so this is a two part question the first part is it for somebody that always already has established blog or could it be for somebody that wants to start blogging and number two is it only for people in plus size fashion blogging or could it be for any type of blogger so to answer both questions both right so oh the the blogger mastermind <hes> is you know even if you're a blogger who's establish. There's some essentials and foundational things that you may have started and didn't really think that this was actually going to be a business right so some of those <hes> <hes> essentials. You may need to know kind of take a couple of steps backwards to make sure that your foundation is strong for that new blogger who may not even have a ball with it's been curious about it. You have that option as well. <hes> we do. Take it from a one oh one space space but we also you know I will talk about in reference higher level <hes> steps in ways that you can think about future forward moving things and that's you know <hes> and thanks to our sponsor media vine who is my ad partner I previous fashion east of they are going to be they are sponsoring <hes> the blogger mastermind now <hes> for attendees it doesn't matter if you're plus or straight size not even into fashion these are foundational things that that will be applicable across the board perfect and the reason why this class is so important because one of the things you stress is building your <music> own brand versus building it just on social media which is a platform. You don't own correct. Yes yes like for example like just this past weekend. It's a good point you brought up just this past week and Instagram instagram deleted over twenty meam accounts twenty meam accounts that had over somehow over twelve million somehow over thirty million <hes> some had like five hundred sixty seven thousand like like waking up one day and instagram deciding to believe all of that that's that's bananas and when you don't have you don't have control over that because you are literally renting. Land on someone else's property and you're not even paying rent so they don't even have an accountability to you right right so it's very important to build your own. Yes yes yes and that starts with being enough hosted owning your domain building. Your newsletter like those are some of the key things that need to happen now that Friday after the mastermind <hes> <hes> <hes> bloggers mastermind you have two more events now is that Friday night programming exclusively for bloggers or is that for the general public as well so the blogger to brand speed dating thing is exclusively to the blogger will be attendance and so this is where you know blogger will be able to hitch various sponsors different vendors <hes> their their business like they're they're. They're three minute elevator pitch straight. They'll be able to pitch this brand pitch them with the different ideas they have who they are what they do so that's something that we've added news this year especially because some of the bloggers and brands just from conversations past one more time of a one on one join <hes> following the blogger speed dating. You have your <hes> v._I._P.. Networking mixer so that is where kind of like a kickoff for V._I._p.. Ticket holders sponsors and vendors and models come together perfect is so Saturday you have <hes> some new additions to the event. One is the Kirby Kaas play cat walk and tell us more about that so you know I have the biggest soft spot for possibly. I've never crossed plate myself. I think the most that I've done is dressed up for Halloween. You know as a grownup <hes> but this year you know especially as the cost play the plus size cost play world is growing. I wanted to you <hes> make sure that the that community knew that they were invited and welcomed as well and so this year we're going to do like a little cat. Walk walk off where <hes> <hes> the class players will be able to show off their work right show off. You know their character their work what they're doing. I mean because like when you really look at like some of the work that folks put into it. It's so innovative it's so creative and they deserve to be acknowledge. <hes> and then following that you have the rise and growth of big and tall fashion now is that a panel discussion for rising what ties the rise and growth of big and tall fashion is that a panel discussion is a panel discussion <hes> and then how to make and create your own Lane and plus size bashing. That's a panel discussion as well <hes>. I believe so whatever we we've changed it up just a little bit got it and we actually we actually <hes> <hes> sharing those details later. I'm today actually oh perfect and so Sunday. We need more visibility. The rise of plus is in media. That's that would be a panel discussion as well correct Iraq so so the announcements are the people who are GonNa be on because we don't know all of the panelists yet right <hes> we actually do for the most part we're just waiting on. We have a one more celebrity that we're waiting on and I we in just about clothes and just want that income strive. We will be sharing that information with you guys and <hes> v._I._p.. Coffee and conversations with Tasha cobbs. Tell me a little bit about how there's going to be set up so this is for our V._I._p.. Ticket holders so this is not like a breakfast. This is like a <hes> a literal <hes> you know grab a cup of coffee. Sit Down and listen. We're going to do a Q. and A. Conversation Conversation and have a little bit of a conversation with <hes> with Tasha cobbs about her journey right and as we go through that we'll be able to talk about <hes> you know how you got to where she is <hes> what she she's launched two different brands since <hes>. She's wants to different brands <hes> one being like a sunglasses eyewear company in her second her active wear line so we're gonNA talk a little bit about that and. And then <hes> <hes> a little bit of Q. and A. and then the doors will open okay so that's before the expo even starts that's in the morning <hes> and and then how to navigate the plus size fashion Ashen seen. This should be a popular panel because I'm always asked that question how do I how do I break in to the plus size scene because to the outside looking in sometimes. It looks like it's a whole bunch of clicks that you can't break through well. You know that's GonNa be you know quick. They're always going to be wherever you go and I think it's just about the perspective and the way that you choose to kind of look at things so in this particular space what this particular situation we will actually have <hes> <hes> a couple of different types of people in fashion. Speak specifically to this topic so this is GonNa be a little a little fun <hes> this is going to be <hes> Djabel. N This is GonNa be no actually yeah. This is the style when right so yeah. This is Jay Berlin. This is <hes> Oh my God. I totally forgot that we have <hes> we also also have a Princess Bella Carla Toby Prince's Bella <hes> also speaking as well <hes> so she's GonNa be speaking at Expo this year too but for the style panel we will have <hes> <hes> Jabil Elon Ashley Mel Tipton <hes> I believe Nikki Daniels as well so people who've had different very UN Orthodox ways and how they created their own rate and how they've levers different platforms around them. I'm into creating you know in in creating their spaces nice and so this year on the panel's going to be in separate rooms or is that going to be on the main stage right on the stage page perfect and so let's give a shout out to some of yours sponsors you mentioned one of the <hes> blogger mastermind but who else is helping out <hes> make this event happen. Well let me let me pull it. Make sure I don't forget anybody but we have <hes> eloquently. We have <hes> let me you. I feel like I'm like caught off guard. I'm like wait. Let me make sure I get everybody <hes> <hes> because we also just got in anthropology which we haven't formally announced that <hes> they just came on board <hes> so let's see make sure I get to everybody so we have <hes> <hes> big big fashion to figure Izzo Natural City Chic Anthropology Eloquent Media Vine Pasi and Ella in Oak Nice and so as you said some new sponsors are still being announced so is it too late to be a sponsor. If you're listening and you WANNA be involved we could figure out a way to make it work with you. You just need to check right right and so less shot out some of your team. That helps make this even happen to. I'm like I actually didn't do it with like I. I have such an amazing dope team so like let's see let's start with Kristen and Kristen has actually my cousin but she is like the buck stops with her literally <hes> <hes> and then we have <hes> Kendra <hes> who is our production manager. We have brandy on logistics from be memorable events we have US entire TESTA measure whose over our volunteers pepper from pretty plus pets whose over our bloggers and our media. We have <hes> Reggie from <hes> Reggie. He is our backstage coordinator we on T. G.. Who is the registration just straight you know Francis over the vendors? We have my mom who's over the shop P._C._S.. It's a family affair right. We have got herk who are in our social team. <hes> I feel like I'm missing. Oh we have cameras on from <hes> Social Butterfly whose over our speakers like we have a nice healthy team. Yes and that's why the event is so successful because you have. <hes> a team behind you it'd be hard to do everything on your own the bigger and bigger you get you need a team of course and <hes> now. You also usually have a lot of volunteers at the event. Are you still looking for volunteers. We are all set with volunteers. We're totally also volunteers. So what about if someone wants to be a vendor that closed closed off to that it's close to Nice so the only opportunity left would be sponsorship and that's it everything else is set in stone yes and so <hes> I know tickets are still available online. Will they be available after door. The day of the yes yeah he hand but massage the Expo You <unk> Half T._C.. F- crew's coming up. I told twelve so one one one thing one thing is over you onto the next thing are spots still available to be a part part of the cruise. Yes and I'll make sure I send the link. Share the link with us so that you can <hes> squeeze it if you definitely wanted to squeeze in. There's a couple of less perfect so you're a very busy woman. Do you have anything else happening that we could be on the lookout for I think for now right <laughter> well. That's enough right right well. I it's not it to be there. I'm excited to be the Tisdale Expo. I'LL BE <HES> CO hosting again this year. We gotTA give a shout out to big Ray <hes> the CO host and it's GonNa be a fabulous event so if anybody's listening and you're just thinking and having made a final decision you definitely need to be there. Get your tickets and join us there so Marie tell us your official official website so we can keep up with everything you have going on. Yes so <hes> everything is to see US Style Expo T. C. S. Style Expo Dot Com. You can find us on Instagram at Expo on facebook at t.f style expo and even on twitter at C._S._l.. Expo well. Thank you so much for being a guest on the show. I know you got a lot going on sounds like you must have got some emails or something. They'll text messages. We're talking. I got hand. I'm always getting information and I'm like I'm over here trying to make sure I'm just like focused so so I'm like like been a Monday right. It's Monday. It's been a Monday and with the schedules <hes> we definitely will be so I will say <hes> you will find like next week. We will be moving everything over to the to the Kirby fast and he's still website so don't be surprised if you see things like Oh my God. This is different because we are moving things over so that move what happened before the event. Yes ma'am okay got it well. Thank you again for being on the show. You know I'm so proud of everything that you do and you know you always have my support so keep doing what she do and keep being fabulous. How thank you maybe so I can see you love you too and I'll see you in a few days? I know right. It's going to be as quitted anything thing we blink and his his well all right talk to you later. Thank you all right bye bye bye and thank you to my fabulous guest today Marie D._N._A.. Make sure you check out her blog. The Kirby Fashion Easter and also make sure your face is in the place for the Fifth Annual T._C._i.. Style Expo happening August ninth through the eleventh and Atlanta so make sure you join us. I will be there as host and I am looking forward to seeing you there. <hes> thank you for tuning in and supporting as always until.

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ACS (Part 1): Amy Miller

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ACS (Part 1): Amy Miller

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I'm gonna talk about today. Amy. Miller's a stand up comedian. And she's going to be opening for me at cobbs. This week's also world's biggest Dali Parton fan. So we've got a lot of that to get into this have the show brought to you by brush hero dot com slash pages slash annum and Castrol edge taint him strong for maximum engine performance. Couple things first off some clarity on the missing earplugs. I had foam earplugs weekend. Yeah. I had a I had the air plugs. I had my foam earplugs. Their orange foam earplugs sitting a little lucite kind of ashtray looking thing on my nightstand long with some change and whatever else pull out of my pockets. They're probably six or seven loose. Came home Wednesday night after the maids made their parents, and they're all gone, and I thought the maids threw them out. Well, thought the maids move them thought they fill them out through them out. There's always the Phil theory, maybe fill got them. But it's weird. They just sit there every night. I don't know why. Get paid us for fill literally. And potatoes is true. Because the next day he'd torn apart. Sonny's Nerf football in in the early morning hours. Why wasn't so? Peter over the house found that earplugs and fills poop filled did eat past them. And let me let me just say as low man on the totem pole work. Yeah. Now, I told him you make sure things are cleaned before they end up next to my nightstand. Again. Not since age fourteen of I poked, shoved my years, not fall. Seventeen. All right. Who's counting? The point is this. I will put this out there to everyone who is fair to Midland at their job. Which is when you are. Window of negligence for adequately incompetent. Gone. There is always a reasonably MU you're essentially. So what I'm saying is my mates do kooky things. Yeah. So brand for the unpredictable, right? And when it is about brand is a weird thing. I mean, when when you're so again, when I come into my shop as I did a few months ago on a Saturday, and I got rob who's very sporadic but lives in Redondo beach, and they're all weekend like on his boat, and Sean who's always in and out of the shop on weekends working on his own projects. But is not a Radic and I come in on Saturday. And I see the compressor is on I go Jesus schon you've left with no one's there. He's gone. He left the compressor on because rob doesn't come here on weekends, and Sean does and this is a Saturday, but this goes against what Rob's behavior are Shawn's behavior. It's right in Rob's wheelhouse later on when I'm admonishing, Sean. In for leaving the thing on rob chimes in and says, I came in Saturday morning air my tires, and then I left and I thought perfect. All right. So here's what I'm saying. When you are sporadically incompetent than we have no choice. But to blame you even for stuff you didn't do because they are. And it just so happens that my dog decided to eat my ear plugs today, the maid showed up, but I'm gonna blame the maids and not the dog because the air plugs were in there every other day before the made showed up and now this, and you may say, it's not right? But it's sort of like this if you were going to choose the life of a drifter where you just go. Hey, I'm a drifter blows in town. And then we find a teenage girls corpse in the woods, and we can't find who. Did it guests is gonna come to you person of interest? And it's like, I don't know. Maybe you're kind drifter who just gets a little work on mending fences and by some Bearman, drip for drifter percentages. This is what happens when you become a drifter. This is what happens when you're sort of incompetent at your job sporadically. We don't know we don't we assume. It's you do you think about? All those people who do all those things that are kind of a Radic, and you think. And then you think that other people who don't do that. And you would never draft. It wouldn't come to them. Right. All right. So. Holiday apology to the maids because Phil eight my ear plugs. Also. I had I had a weird thought when I was just walk into the kitchen this morning, and I have no idea, but this Danehill song popped up, and then I thought about Isaac Hayes. And then I thought about this is a song that Isaak's would never sing. And then I thought I'd like to segment called the songs. Isaak's would never sing. Now. Let's do that Isaac Hayes. Let's get people taste. He'll be missed. Yeah. We will love unlimited orchestra is a case. But let's do a little Isaak's. Oh, and God he did some acting too. Right. I mean, he was in like a scape from New York. And oh, yeah. So south park racia- for south, right? But he did some on camera stuff. He wasn't escape from New York. I'm trying to think so long lead up to this fresh appreciative. Food. No, he actually be serenading us or just sexy talking. Now, what's the name of this one Brian that loving feeling? Well, you can fast forward to when he starts his vocals because I know some of these things go on for a while. Tension. To that holds up in court. Powerless. Doxa fund, really drives it. Yeah. That just meant sex time and movies ever saw that sex kicks. They're supposed to be lyrics here. But I sex. Sure. It seems that Kim. They say cervix ourselves. So Solta I heard being. Ellen. All right. They get that easy. Sweep lovemaking, man. And then did is it with Isaac Hayes. Max Pata was he in escape from New York. Or if not what was he in? He did some film roles. You can probably not the warriors who small we only may have been in the news in one of those. Like in New York escaping movies. He was the Duke of New York. Oh, it was the Duke of New York. So in in the warriors, no escape from New York Netscape for a little while. All right. So he did some acting. You had a good luck. So I thought I would play a song that he would never I wouldn't courage. You guys tweet me do this periodically. He's a song that Isaac Hayes would never say. And I came up with this one by Dan hill. So to tender for. Either different. Also when he talks about his feelings. That you con. Then this siege. To see. Sometimes come on. Ball. I want to kill the fee. All right. You get the picture. I don't think is it would be down with trying and earn till the fear. Subsides? He doesn't show that side of sure that he's familiar with the word subside. Probably sets a position. On your subside lady. Yeah. That goes in the category of like air supply all out of love. Yeah. Yeah. I that one's particular particularly agree. Just because he's a breaking down and cry stuffing. He'd rather be honest. Everything else. To break you. Listening. And bring your bring it to you. To break down and hold. You get to that part. I never be. He would never sign off on that kind of. Choose. And security. Still. Still with you. Two. The. Fridge. Do your knees? Yeah. All right. So you guys can tweet me your next offering do better in this. But you can try. I mean obstacle help he will help. All right. Let's see Andy's in Atlanta coming out on Saturday wants to pull the ball's out of the hopper. Andy. Every all man, you're coming out from Atlanta, y'all. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't have anything else to do Saturday. So I'm booked a flight and decided to come on out guy, long term lifeline direct. At least Andy how I've got about three stops on south with poor thing. Dear. What do you do in Atlanta? And how come I didn't state your house? I offered the Andrea that that aspect or that that offer he's making a three connection flight on south west. What do you think you'd be staying at? That's a good point. Well, I asked her mom if it's rural. Finish basement and EMT. No, you're good. You're good. I I'm insurance law here in Atlanta. Oh, and how far how far from Rhode Lanar? You. Let me for the next race. It's hour and a half, you know, way way up there. I know. That's why I gotta stay with the guy who's next to the track. So you really going to come out to San Francisco, and please tell me what the rest of your plans are in San Francisco because I'm I'm hoping tour Alcatraz is geared or Jared. Jared. Farmers market. What are we talking about Coit tower? We're going to the next day head up to Napa. We're staying San Francisco one night at myself, and we're going to nap but the next day for a few days. What do you want to know? And yeah, we're we're should I go in Napa Brian time. I've been but I I don't think it was legal drinking age at that. Time wine train warn train legal. That's the big one is the one you recognize the COPA the all do sterling sterling is. Okay, why? But it has the Gondal that takes you the top of the mountain, and you get these spectacular views. So do the do the big places. You know, you do the small places time. Coppola has really impressive. They're all. They're all actual Marvel's. Yeah. All right. So Andy you wanna pull the balls late night Saturday. Full your ball. Confusing writing for me to say. All right, Andy, I'm gonna pencil you normally we have a ball girl. But if you're taking three connections from Atlanta, you deserve it. You're in it. Just issue there. Right. Hang on the line. We'll get you in for me. Yeah. Well, we'll get your infomercial. We'll figure it out. We'll we'll make it work. Thank you so much. Thanks. I love that. He's the lawyer. So he would know better than me. But you think now that he's the ballgirl he can write off this trip. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Especially when he does a slip and fall getting onto stage. Cobb. Yeah. Private back. Right. So somebody tweeted me an article, and I love reading your tweets, and I just hit the heart and favored tweeden them. And sometimes people go why are you doing that? And I go I'm just trying to keep track of them. And I sent him to max, Pat. And then he pulls them and reminds me that stuff I want to talk about but article everyone sitting down out of Florida man, killed by giant bird and matter. A couple of my God wins that to Jain bird dinosaur prehistoric, it's a flightless bird. And also, I don't know how we have categories were like, well, how do you define this? Like, we talk about well avocados a fruit because it has a pit how about this. You don't fly? You're not a bird. I like oh good penguins site. Yeah, I'm sorry. The what everybody said what's the distinctive like what separates bird from all other animals? No one would ever go. Jodi accent, they'd go. It flies. The thing about being a bird is flying like a bird a bird. And if you don't fly, you ain't a bird. I'll call you somehow. We'll get another designation for you. But I don't like you anyway, mentioned chicken chicken can't fly tilles covered in feathers lanes. This thing real here is a pay it looks like mercan. Yeah. No that sweet mohawk though, right? So that that thing is a what is the cassowaries wary. Right. Yeah. Not mohawk is part of the skull. It's not even. Yeah. It says it has a four inch dagger like claws and concise open predator predators single kick. So this was seventy five years old thing is sore. It's pretty awesome. Yeah. Like, a what's the Jackman? Over police found the man badly wounded by the castle wary which they called to his property on Friday the bird attacked him. The man fell over victim Marvin Akos or hey, Joe was taken to the hospital by paramedics he died from his injuries. This is considered the world's most dangerous bird, according to San Diego zoo. And the man was reportedly breeding the birds, which are native to Australia and NEW GUINEA he said to have kept other exotic animals for decades. All right. All right. Let's say about birds soda million times. It's the only pet where after keeping it alive and cleaning up after it for like seven years. Eight years ten years you see guys reach into the cage to get burned. The bird starts biting on its finger like to find how to they don't like human beings maverick. They don't like anything. I don't know that they're friendly with any cheers. And each other. They're constantly doing battle skies. D day or something over its its. It's battle the bulge in the air. Like, you see the crows and hawk going at it, blah, blah, blah. But anyway, this thing kill them. He gets better police added that the cast of wary involved in the attack remains secured on private property. A woman who identified herself as the victim's partner told the Gainesville sun newspaper that he died doing what he loved that. Because there's no way when you're being packed in clot to death giant dinosaur bird that you've probably fed with a bottle. Four years ago, you held at these chicken feted as a bottle putting the one the right? That thing is literally look in terms of ways to die circle. Nobody wants to drown and no one wants to catch on fire and nobody wants to have terrorist attack. But that stuff is instantaneous pectin clot to death is a long and slow one. I mean, that's a lot. Ostrich-like married. A lot of time to think about what you like. A lot of time to walk back doing what you love. Reflect he may have he may have been doing what he loved just before he got. But he did not die doing what he loves gasping for air. Yeah. Gurgling? Yeah. That thing was killed by bird that he raised. No way. Could he ever die doing what you love as accurate? You can could have been on the way to doing what he loves and then he died. But either way I we're just talking about that notion of dying doing what you love and probably hating it at the time. So birds are the worst. Maybe we can recruit this bird into my bird army. We have my tack crows. This could be a foot soldiers. We have we have our our air patrol, and we have a heavier Tillery the tanks. Yeah. This be the grounds. It'd be more the marines infantry. All right. Let's see what he love also. So it's always it's always perfect that a guy like this. And he's gonna be missed. Don't get me wrong. But he's in Florida that part is perfect and he has a lady partner, but not as why now that that's the lady friend. I guarantee you introduce her as lady friend, that's a special bird Levin flurry. And all right, crazy. Now, look do we put the per down. And if we do can we let Ted Nugent do it for it's only command into the campers Cam do something you know, what I mean? Let's let's get some use out of it. Okay birds. Good eat. No, I'm I'm going to go with. No. Although I don't know if anyone's been ballsy enough to run it down and eat it yen World War Two people who were stationed in NEW GUINEA were told stay away from these birds because they could they can sever your arm or vast rate nabbed him in with ease with ease. Supposedly, this guy was trying to feed the birds. And by the way, is kind of succeeded in terms of what? In terms of what's perfect about the story. He had a menagerie of other exotic animals he was keeping real. It's just a relent wheelspin who's going to dial the white tiger. My favorite part is where the lesbian with the khaki shorts pulls up to the microphone at some point. When she's delivering the press conference and goes. These are wild animal always love when people say that. Oh, they're not stuffed teddy bears. Like there was go. These are wild animals like yeah. I think we got that got wrap my mind around, and I saw a picture of it. And I saw the coroner's report. I'm with you thousand percent baggers attest to its toes. I got that. Although I have been trying to make a nuance distinction to the three year old. Are there little one who always wants? No, an animal shows is that a bad animal is that a bad animal or good. Everyone's a bad guy. Good guy. So we'll see the lions we'll see the elephants will see whatever, and he'll go is that a bad animal, and I'll always say the same thing with a wild animal. It's not bad wild. And what it does. I should do that with sunny when we're kid, but we'd be watching cops. Anyway. Their animals. We'll be watching cops. Oh, yeah. Let's see. Let's not get run over by train people. I've got a PSA for you guys. Find yourself. Stuck on a rail way crossing? Let's turn into a fifty song about. Unrequited love if signals going train set not there, yet get the hell out of there man, some people some people want to sneak across and people have that like I'm in a hurry. But let's not do that don't ever man trains are going faster than you expect. It can take a train over mild. Stop. I've seen the movies arc shooting out everywhere. And you can get crushed in seconds with us babies hit you. So let's let's not die doing what you love which is which is getting through traffic. So the signals on the train is on its way. Just remember one thing stop because the trains cannot stop. So let's get home in one piece with the kids and whatnot, shall we people? All right. Let's see we have Amy's out there. I had a an interesting thing play for you guys. So I was telling you coincidentally last week or was it yesterday? I can't remember anyway, Pete Brock famous guide design a car designed at Daytona. Shelby with the crazy. Yeah. He sends me a lot of emails and. He spammed. These four words. Yeah. He's does. And he sent me one. There is a movie there is a famous underground bootleg movie. And I'm curious how this works from nineteen seventy six so potato crime. It was no Jerry Lewis. Yeah. Yeah. It was like that. But pumpkin one it made the route. No, no that Jerry Lewis Jerry Lewis start as a as a nuts. He was. Holocaust. No, you're thinking of. Comedy. I am now. In between two. You're thinking of Jerry Lewis, you're thinking about an underground Jerry Lewis movie that never surfaced because he was he was a clown. And you're thinking about king comedy. Thank you. And where he was in the movie with generic. Now, we shall move on. All right. So signed an initial date initially. Move forward. So. No. So think about this. I was talking to what Nixon Torah over the break over the weekend about the jerky, boys. And we talk about I never liked the jerky, boys. But I know about the jerky boys, but age. Interesting. We've talked about is like how did that whole Rod Stewart or or Richard Gere? How those folks how how'd they spread out? Everyone knew will those stories in the ninth grade. But you think about the jerky boys? How come when I'm in lock locker Senna, California with my roommate? Ralph and nineteen ninety two he's got jerky. Boy capes. The pre internet, obviously, he's not going to a website or somebody's recording. I'm blue light him and sending them out to him, and blah, blah, blah, but pre internet things could go viral, and we're still there were plenty of guys hung out with who knew all about the jerky boys from Long Island or wherever wherever they're from. And I don't know how works, but that's how it works and. But before that, I mean, I don't know people knew about Davy Crockett and stuff like that. It's just the way we work. We don't need the internet. But there was a famous film, and the famous film was called rendezvous, and it was about seven or eight minutes long. I saw VHS tape of it probably in the mid nineties, and it was a guy going through the streets of Paris at dawn in a what sounded like a souped up for Ari because you never saw the driver, and you never saw the car he mounted the crazy driving. All right. Yes. He mounted the camera on the bumper of the car. So you could only see what in down low, and you could only see what was in front of the car. So for years people speculated like, oh, this was shock Lafitte, the famous f one driver, and this guy was Dr driving. Ferrari Daytona GT to seventy five, but nobody v twelve six downdraft Weber's. But nobody knew until recently. This is why Brock sent me this this Email. They finally sort of somebody fest down somebody came out and said, it was me or here's what I did. Or here's what happened and I'll show you, and you guys can just turn it up. And listen, I'll play about fifteen seconds of it. He's heading to the arc Triomphe triumph. Here. We go. Darn close. Around our. All right. So that's about fifteen seconds of that. So I was so they went on and Pete sent me this Email and Email said they they finally kind of figured out who was behind it. How it worked, and blah, blah, blah, next, Pat Toomey, I have that somewhere. Do you have that article? Yes. So he forty this article from Haggerty, and it's just it's one scene. One take no dialogue. No change. No hero car driver. Incite yet, cloud Lucia's, that's directors hypnotic, electrifying. Sitate rendezvous is one of the best car films of all time for years at creation shrouded in mystery. No, one knew how it been made what kind of car the film featured or who was behind the wheel. It's Baxter was Belge even fabricated and it took on mythic proportions since its nineteen seventy six debut. The film is rightfully become a legend. And so the longstanding belief was that if each day Ferrari, and it only fed rumors that race car drivers jock Lafitte had been behind the wheel aid reached speeds of two hundred miles per hour. Right. So. I was. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. Man. It's funny because I have seen it a couple times. And it went down like burned into my psyche. God that guy was hauling man that for Hari was kicking ass through the streets of Paris and predawn around dawn, and blah, blah, blah. And and then the article went on to say what max battle. So the reveal is allowed the director drove the car himself his own Mercedes-Benz four fifty s as a big four-door big luxury Mercedes that is nothing near sports car specially in nineteen seventy four seventy three or whenever that car. It's mid I don't know if his was I don't know what years they made the four fifty SEAL can probably figure that out always better. But it's it's a it's a big lumbering seventies Mercedes, and and maybe they made. It from sixty eight seventy five seventy five to eighty one seventy five eighty one good thing now. So then his must have been a seventy five or seventy six, but either way that's the mid that is peak slow car season for even Mercedes Mercedes aren't sports car, not back then but the four door a four-door Mercedes, a seventy five more work for you, max, bat, seventy five four or Mercedes four fifty SEAL is there to sixty in something slow like it ain't ain't as quick as a as a mini Cooper today. Even get into that later. But the point is all right. He's driving to slow cars. Driving a Ferrari, that's insane. Now, he can still be hauling ass and a slow car, but he's not going, and it's not a slow car. But what I'm saying is it's not a sports car sound the way. It sounds because the engines laboring so bad to do what he wants know rating. So he was driving a Mercedes Benz four fifty SEAL and dubbed in the sound of Ferrari to seventy five GT after the fact, and if you. People if they listen close now they can hear that sinks, not even perfect a lounge opted for his Mercedes because of the hydrogen suspension, it cushioned the camera mounted to it. But the squeeze the Ferrari squealing tires revving engine. I was just saying the Sweden because the get that on on a seventy six camera. What what what the what the audio the had at the time you'd have had boom mic outside the car. Now. Then Sweden it. They laid it over. Yeah. They laid the Ferrari, right? But for that. Yes. They. They. Ever sound of that car? He added he added every that's all all Lehto. Let's listen again, we can hear it. You realize now I thought thinking oh my God. It's the sound. It's the sound of the engine. It's the sound of the engine that whole thing was the sound of the engine. And then I thought. We would have laid generic rock over it. We're doing what we're doing what we've taken to engine away and laid out. Genera rock. I'll play me going up the hill. Twin turbo nine thirty five with our Genero rock, and we'll see what that sounds like Xinle known by some drivers is the meat greater. Yeah. Shadows from the trees of 'cause a lot of great drivers to crash here. And they've lost really expensive race. You can still hear the car. The background. All right. So. So I thought all right. I'm going to try that fifteen second rendezvous clip with art generic underwrite. No and no Ferrari sound and then you'll see how much it slows down like when he's catching. He's going down straightaway. And there's a car in front of him. And that cars going thirty five or forty miles an hour. He's catching him that fast. Like, if you're going one hundred eighty miles an hour and someone's going thirty five you're right. You're gone. I've done enough just you guys have been on the freeway doing sixty and someone passes you at eighty and they blow to pass that's only twenty miles an hour faster. So we'll do it. Now, you narrow rock, and we'll have a laugh. Sweet. Nice leisurely Sunday drive. Put a goat for on the moped. Slow. This car is coming up. Slightly after the traffic. All right. So it went from hera's air. Right. It turned into nothing. So no wonder he wanted to keep the secret definitely do Nate's office more than I said pull up that Ron, and let's watch it. And he said, okay. And I said who is the editor on Adam Corolla goes racing because I want him in the room with us. And he said Doug Seattle, and I said good go get Doug. And he said Doug went home. I said why did Doug go home and setting about what he did? Tuck spilt bleach on himself. Oh god. And I was like what? And then. I pause anyone. He was cleaning the bathroom, and I went good. Okay. Good now almost given back. He was cleaning the bathroom. Okay. I don't know. Maybe we should get someone to clean the bathroom. I just wanted to find the exact song that used in from the cold goes racing video, and he just sent me seconds ago. And the reason he had trouble finding because he relabeled it Adam hates it. Don't use. That file. For a hate crime on himself. I'm saying watch watch rocky turn the sound down. You will physical physically see the punches mythic. We'll see turn the sound up. You'll hear it'll connect them for you have Adam go up the hill, the nine thirty five and play Genero rock, and it's it's a five, but have that have that turbo spool up, and it's a different environment different thing. This guy was a filmmaker in one thousand nine hundred seventy six he knew it, and he got his four door Mercedes with the hydros suspension in it, and is key grip gripper cinematographer like in the past your seat, and he just took a spirited drive through Paris. But not not not at breakneck speeds, just a spirited drive, but he mounted the camera in the right place in then he took a v twelve Ferrari with six downdraft Weber carbs on it, and he jacked that sound up. And he jacked it up in your brain turn. Earned it into the most crazy ride through harassed French connection ever. Yeah. Okay. That's my that's my sonic argument. Are you satisfied are totally bummed now. I'm just like. I'm both. I'm both zero to sixty eight point five seconds, which is laborious. It is crazy. If you didn't crack if you haven't cracked six Ewing, you ain't movement. So that is that is slow gets. All right is Amy here, by the way. No, she's. More minutes. Okay. But it's just it's interesting. What the mind does. It's it's it's great it. We are much more sonically tuned in than we think we think we're all visual. We're we're really not. Yeah. There's actually a big viral thing on YouTube, Kris K, maybe you can find it. There's a speed racer one bohemian rhapsody one. And I'm sorry. I don't know what to put into search. But you're just going to hear the music. And because you know, the words it sounds like people are singing it, but they are not. So we can find that. It's pretty cool to listen to karaoke. No, no, literally is like some sort of a piano synthesizer. It's just playing it. But because you know, the words the way it's done. It sounds like people are singing it in the background. And this is why the older I get the less and less I put into like, I witness to the crime like I saw I know what I saw like I know what I heard. I know what whatever we're all over the road right on that, pardon the pun speed racer like the theme song speed razor. Oh, I know all the words. You'll enjoy this. But it might take while the fine. I can run in there and try and be more specific max, Pat, if you just play the theme song to speed racer, I will sing I'll sing it for now, actually. Haven't heard the salt four years. Here. He comes. Here comes me, sir. He said deem on we heels thinks that the amenities chasing after someone. For you. So you better look alive. He's busy revving up the power five. Against dangerous work. You bet your life speed racer Goten to see through. Got speed. Around the track. He's pedal. Like he's ever. Coming back ventured waiting. Speed. Feed right. Whatever's as. God that's only cartoon as to watch. When I was a kid. And then you know, what? After that guest of all cartoons came on. Kimba the white lion. Donald Kimba Barbaro Kimba has stood the test of time how much outta there was speed racer would come on. And then Kimba the white line. And. With the super soft sappy like guns at the light line. But he just wants to be friends with the other line. And there was Daniel baboon. He was the elderly while all it was weird Japanese anime stuff they've just lay stuff over. And I remember my ears would pop from getting the band altitude drop after speed race speed racer be like punching out racer acts and getting in a fight with battling Malaj and go in with inspector detector and everything like that. And then I'll Kimba the white lion. And I'm blue. What Joyce did you have though? Oh, I had to watch. If you watch the home, I think I can sing the Kim by the white line song to if you find that deem thrown. Hey, let me ask you guys a quick question on that on that note. I'll let you find the Kim. Now, look Brian. You've sat next to me for fifteen years. You've never heard me sing Kim of the white line or or speed irreverence Kim the white line, right? Specific literally something that just burned in from age ten years old. And you didn't even like it. I didn't even like it. I I had I had to watch it. Then I got a I got a poke. My I got I got hot pokey mount tape. To after this. Big show. Bisstock? The one who. One line. Trouble in. We're in a fight. Who's the one that just won't turn and run? King of doing good and doing ride Kimba line is the one I hope Kimba, you know, what I'd pay to see. Kimba goes at door explorer like that fucking ostrich one at the old man of Florida, just disembowel. I would dad I would I would share out here. And then Ted Nugent shoots Kimba over the crossbar cheese. Lau zan. First time ever heard. I think I've ever heard of Kim never Kimba. Like again, we now were poisoning our kids with wow wasn't Dora. The explorer another piles of creative shit like that. But this was blah, and I'd come right off a speed racer an into this. And I was like. But what am I gonna do read? You can't please contact with a family member. Like, what am I choice is here? Time to watch Kimba. The net flicks. And all this stuff. The kid always says I want to watch something I've never seen before. And so we just go through the characters. He. Yeah. That's the thing. And he found one two days ago that we now he's into we can't stop laughing. I think it's Indonesian it might be Indian it's called robot. Boy and the voices are like yellow, yes. No, please. Do not fight me. Keep silence in class. Maxa paddock. Can you pull up the billboard for Pok Mon because I was driving movie? Yeah. Because you I was driving. I have no idea striving to the comedy store Sunday night heading through the coin, go whatever, and I stopped and there was a big billboard there. And I looked up at it. I was like, oh, Pokemon. Now, Pokemon is one of those things that I do not get there. Many things in life. I do not. I don't get any anime. I remember my son about two and a half years ago is looking for Pokemon and every all the time the Pokemon an app and collecting poke him out, and I told him this'll be an embarrassing chapter in your life. You will be humiliated by this. And I'm telling you right now, you can drop it and get on with live or you can invest another three months several hundred dollars, and then be humiliated by it as we move forward. And he's like. I'm into Pok Mon. I'm like, okay. This can be super bearing chapter. And now when I talked about Pok, Mon he's I it was a lame. I don't know when I was thinking, and I don't get it. I don't get Pokemon. I never got any. I don't get the cards. I don't I don't get any of it. But they're coming out with a feature, and I hope it dies thousand deaths like Super Mario brothers did like when they come out with the feature five years after the heat kind of everything cools off like are we talking about why? Now, it was Pok Mon. Well, the timing is about right. If you started making a movie when everything was going down Pok Mon it peaked and just dropped and. So I was passing this billboard. And it was like. Yeah. Crate pokey goddamn. Now. Here's how you know. We don't need to poke him on the movie, nobody was bigger into it than my son and his friends guests who doesn't want. He wants to see the vendor evanger end of an era, whatever and then game and times the final blast of whatever. The all the stuff. He wants all that crap. He will not watch movie. I will I will make fun of if he wants he want. He's outgrown it everyone was into it is out grown teenagers. But I was looking at the billboard and the head the little slug line over Pika chew. And if you have it max, Patty. What's slug line? We'll we'll trying to move. You. Can't just find that picture Pika chew. That says we can't find any any billboard. I know. But. For this movie. So far the peak achieved one let's see find the poster they might use the same. I don't wanna step on the slug wine. I'll buy a second. Let me tell you about Castrol edge stronger under pressure that Mercedes four fifty SEAL didn't need the Castrol edge as much as the Daytona. Ferrari did cassette guy ahead at hammered Castrol edge with fluid titanium transforms under pressure three times three times stronger than leading full synthetics against viscosity breakdown. They did a test. And that's what they came up with Castrol edge, formulated and ways to exceed the toughest industry standards. All right. We'll see we can find this. And then I have a little quiz, and I'm curious. But anyway, I don't know show me any poster of Pokemon with Pika chew on it is peak achieve on this poster. I mean, the word is let's say a big picture Pichu and see if we can figure that one out. Live action, Roger rabbit style. He's obviously CGI. But by Ryan Reynolds. And then the rest of the people are people doesn't I don't know anything about Pokemon, but doesn't peak at you just say Pika chew. I think part of the joke. I saw trailer for this. So I don't know about the movie was the only one person can hear him talk. Everyone else. Just here's peak at U P Kapika peak. My so the billboard which we can't find which is it said at a big picture Pika chew Pok Mon, you know, coming out. And it said here come the fuzz because he's fuzzy the good except for I'm trying to think who trying to think how that works because obviously kids don't know the reference here come the BAAs. And I don't know if if you have a seven year old, and you're thirty and you're thirty seven or thirty three or whatever, I don't know if you know here come the fuzz, I'm trying to think on that ended there. I imagine any twelve year old whatever whatever eight eight year old who's into this is in no matter what I think are saying like parents feel okay about spending your money on this. There's jokes for dealt in this. They had a movie called hot fuzz. So that that's a fuzz reference. But I'm trying to remember. I'm just trying to think. I just made me think like would if you stopped. You're thirty thirty five year old woman and go here, come the fuzz or the fuzz like that. What what what's the fuzz reference to? We think they would say the police nyc it what you're saying. But I'm trying I'm just trying to do an experiment like the people for people under forty if you go the fuzz. What does that mean? Now fifty fifty at best. Yeah. Where I dunno mex-. Pat, you know, the fuzz absolutely no, the fuzzy pretty trying to think of like global where that we're that ends where then and then dated where do I know the fuss like? Where the seventies Reverend. Stop using it. Cable Halen knows. And he's he's our youngest guy. He knows the fun. Yeah. But dad come on came on full uniform unloaded cliff in Glock every night, the pokey people know that another fives. Anyway, I hope it dies thousand. Don't like, I don't know. Why the weird stuff anime stuff? Why is it so off putting to me it's grotesque it's task. And there's nothing there's nothing substantial in it. And there's no there's no real content. Irreversibly? It's one love the enemy weirdos. Don't Email me. How a lot of it. I mean, that's what we're watching an I'm not I don't get brutal. All right. So comedian Amy Miller's coming in second. Yes. Do you? Remember, the movie chicken little that came out? It was a kids movie. The I didn't see it. The only reason I remember it is because the billboard was America loves chicken. That was the billboard for weird weird bridge to build to eating your favorite now cartoon characters. All right. So we'll take a quick break. Come back with the comedian, Amy Miller right after this. And now I thought from Geico motorcycle took fifteen minutes to click on the banner ad entitled, you won't believe what these child stars look like now be dissatisfied and kinda sad about how the child stars look. And now your computer is played by pump up ads on this can't be to add insult to injury. You could've used those fifteen click bait minutes to switch your motorcycle insurance. Geico. Geigo fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on motorcycle insurance. Adam Corolla is unprepared. Hits the road. Again, this spring cannot we get it Canadian you're buying fucking hockey. And your name is deal. Flu we understand your fucking Canadian. We get dick name your team Canadian fourteen to see Adam Corolla is unprepared. This weekend. I'd cobs in San Francisco. Two shows Friday night to show Saturday night. Get your tickets now at Adam Corolla dot com. Corolla breeds a tweet from James woods. with the sound off. Adam Schiff looks like a bobblehead tiny little shoulders and a big fat head. Now back to the Adam Karol show comedian Amy Miller in studio, and you can see her this weekend. Cops. Yes. What do you two shows Friday and Saturday she's going to be opening, but I would call her featuring. Yes, then we're trying to figure out Mike, and I were trying to figure out what the feature and a middle. And a headline was but either way Amy's been kind enough to do that for. So you're going to go out and do about what twenty minutes or so it's up to you twenty twenty five thirty call ninety minutes. Is there anyone out host? No, I think what we're going to do is. I think you go out and do twenty all go out and do twenty twenty-five stand up. And then we'll bring the ball polar up on stage and do the last half hour with Adam crawl unprepared. I think that would make sense right Capanna. So how did Mike get hold of you and tell us about your, comma? History. Oh for opening. Well, I'm from the bay area. So the punch lines home club. So she recommends me for all kinds of stuff. So my got hold the manager and said, what's who do you got? Yes. Yeah. I work at cobbs a lot. I should I be scared. I was thinking about this. I see all these haven't been to San Francisco in a while. I always see these news reports like fecal matter and homeless syringes and everything, and I remember we always stay down on the war somewhere and we walked to Cobb. It's not a not a long walk. But it's not a short walk like you cover some ground. You're going through the city going to step on a needle might gonna get hepatitis C. A lot poop. Just tell yourself. It's from a dog. But it's not it's definitely from human. Yeah. But I don't know that walk from the war tha cops those still be nice, little Italy and stuff it'll be beautiful. It'll be fine. Yeah. They kind of confined all the homeless to like one area right on top of where all the tech offices are and they love that nothing. The rich people love more than seeing humans differing way to work about the bang for your buck like think how much you're paying per square foot for some commercial space in the city, and what your taxes are permits and all all the checks, you're cutting to get your business going in there. And then stepping in human poop on your way to the office doesn't seem like a lot of return on your. On your. I mean, if you work at Twitter, you're waiting through poop all the time. Anyone? Manifestation of what you do on the sidewalk on the way out. You know, I was always kind of my might take on government is always just sort of. Let's be realistic. Like if people are getting aids, and they're not wearing condoms, then give them kind of like at a certain point you go. Let's just let's just be realistic here like if people are going to be defecating in the street, then let's just put some porta potties out there. Let's let's give a kind of defecate into that. Yeah. Go like full, Howie Mandel would do with the surgical. But with a condom on your anus. But I was driving out here. We kind of have our own version of that ended always strikes me 'cause I one out last night to the comedy store, and I was driving down four salon drive where all the illegal sell flowers all along that line, and they just sell flowers for people go into the mortuary, and that's how they make their living. And it's fine. It's not sanctioned or licensed permited or anything. But it just it is what it is in the cops aren't going to do anything about it. But the place is littered with boxes in garbage that either the people eat or the flowers at the boxes come in. Because the folks who are they're doing it don't have any way to get rid of their piles of trash. So my thing is like what the government is. Okay. You don't condone this. But you're not gonna do anything about it. So be mature and just put some trash cans there. What a porta potty and a trash can if in fact this exists. And it's going to exist. Let's just be mature about dollar on reality terms. Right. Yeah. Well, San Francisco has tried this and recently, the new mayor proposed this project for shelter. This put everybody inside. But it was downtown. So all these tech companies raised a bunch of money on go fund me to stop the shelter. They raise like five hundred grand or something insane to stop the shelter. So now, I think it's not having they just want everybody shipped out. They just want to send them away on a bus and never see him. Again. We're not gonna stop into full soil and green. Start harvesting human beings like cows will be outlawed because of the farts human beings. We'll be stacking them with skip loaders and put them into big male grad writing stat of them, so Amy how's the how's a career going? It's going good. You know, I'm still relatively new. I guess in the scheme of things I've been doing it like eight years, but I work all the time. I work in a lot you work out at rooster. Tif others. He no I didn't. I didn't get down there much. When I was starting. I spent a lot of time in Oakland in the city. The scene in San Francisco the comedy scene. It's good. It's always been good. You know, a lot of great people came out of there. But there's always a weird plateau because people just go to LA and people just go to LA two years and show up here. Like, where's my career? I went to Portland, which is a weird choice. I made then I think worked out. Well, so I did two years in the bay. And then went to Portland for three years, which is what we're doing. Now when you were in high school were you thinking about stand up. Oh, no, absolutely not. I was not a performer. I had terrible stagefright. I in high school is mostly thinking about boys and Jesus Christ my Lord and savior. Yes. Who was my number one boyfriend? And so what was what was the plan or what what was the thought plan? I went to Berkeley the plan was to do social work. She'll I studied sociology and I worked with foster kids for a long time. So that was the past that I was on. And then I sort of stumbled into comedy late relatively late at thirty which is to start this ridiculous job. Someone we struck me that people. With comedy and getting into comedy, many that many the male comedy comedians, I speak to about it. But as I think about I'm interested in women's perspective of it. But. It's the same wrap that models gifts. Like when you ask a super hot chick? How did you get into modeling? She can't go. Well, it's because I'm super hot. She. She goes, oh, I was a tomboy, and I like climbing trees and racing. Go karts, a friend of mine. Sign me up for modeling competent. I just want like, okay. But why did you show up because I was fined up. Yeah. So there's a lot of like, I I show shucks. But on vogue and so- male comedians. Always go, oh what to a comedy club? My friends like pushed me up on stage. They signed me up for. Why wouldn't work if you really thought about it like if somebody just signed you up for an open mic because you're so, but then want to say because I'm so funny. They just go my friends do it. So at age thirty did your friends sign you up that modeling competition work? I did have a friend who was going to open mic, but mostly started because I was super hot. Obviously was number one. I don't know. I just wanted to get over my stagefright mostly. I felt like I was funny. But I didn't think I was going to stick with it. I just thought it was going to do some crazy thing in downtown. San Francisco at a laundromat. My first open mic. They where they like that open mic the laundromat for fifteen years. Really? That's a area move. Yeah. That's crime out here. Yeah. Yeah. Laundromat on fulsome I in. So you kind of did that. And and realize that it was something he wanted to do. Yeah. I had a good time the first time. Plus it was scary. And my life was sort of melting down. And I was having a whatever turning thirty crisis. Whatever the fuck that is I got a question about working with foster kids and people that nature. Yes. Is it depressing or is it up lifting or is it like I don't want to be a paramedic. Because I could not see people that got no motorcycle accident like sort of four living that would me out on the other hand. It's it's kind of depressing in a weird way. When when you're rich friends invites you to the Malibu house, and you like, oh God you live here. Like, yeah. I live here like drink my coffee, and you kinda get bummed out. Like, why am I place in collide too? Yeah. I'm not here. I said there's there's envy kind of part and. Seeing the kids hearing the stories knowing what you're dealing with two walkout there. Did you go home at night with bummed out or drink a lot? Yeah. It was up lifting when it worked. But I was look I had to read through all the kids stories and try to find placements for them long term, adoptive placements. I'd say the most depressing part was anytime, I left the bay area to recruit parents and went to like, Fresno, or whatever. And then there were social workers. There would be like we can't put this kid in a gay family. Really like, oh, I forgot most of California. Is not the main. We're pretty rural when you get outside LA in in in San Francisco. So he had a lot of gay couples. Yes. Because you're saying Francisco's your beat. And they wouldn't give them up. Our how does that work lately? Say no or how does that work? They are not legally supposed to say, no. But they can say it's not a good fit for this kid. And then, you know. People that'll be there. Well, the really messed up part with teenagers in foster care who would say I can't live with two k. Really rather live in grip palms. Really? Yeah. Because they just didn't want to go to school and say, you know, I have two dads or whatever. But when it worked it was very uplifting. Beautiful beautiful that probably not gonna get judged San Francisco. Oh, that's that's man. I somebody might dad worked at a group home dads. That's also like an eighty sitcom like my to Paul Reiser. Hey was the kids thousand seven men in a little baby kid was five acres out to Dina's that still there, and it was a group home because that's my dad worked like my during my sort of childhood and high school years still around, and I went I go to they'd have these little cottages and the hands like den mom and den dad's. I guess our den parent and all the kids it's sort of live, and these little separate cottages and kind of kitchen in the middle and sit down, and blah, blah, blah. And my very distinct memory memory of going down going there once and like hanging out with the kids in the cottage and all this stuff. And they said we sat around the table and time to eat like spaghetti. And they went Adam would you like to say grace, and I have I had no one. I didn't have one great. I had. No, great av rubbed with the girl. I think I had a God is gracious. God is good. Thank you for this food. But it doesn't really doesn't really right. Five acres. It's been around since eighteen eighty eight. Oh, man, the gym Corolla wing and everything he's Christ. Policemen going on for a long time. I think the tough part was when I started coming in trying to make jokes about foster kids and people did not like it. Gallows humor from everything you've seen you need an I did I did. I mean, people would like it in the wrong way. Yeah. It's true. So God eighteen eighteen eighty had no damn idea. And it's still around sadly, same Plum. All right. So we will take ourselves quick break. And then we will come back, and we'll do the news and Amiel hang with us. And. We'll do that with Gina grad right after this. The always told will he was too short to play basketball. But will never listen. We'll let his work ethic. Do the topping for have always in the gym always running drills. We'll knew where there was a will. There was a way and he was will. But then after a second child was bored. Be realized the pros were all way better than him. So we'll give up and buried his high tops in a tearful ceremony. But one day he heard that gyco could save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch, which was awesome. Treasures have been salvaged from Notre Dom. I'm Jacky Quin with an AP news. Fire crews in Paris continue to work through the night, attacking the fire that ravaged much of the Notre Dame cathedral. But the mayor of Paris has just announced most artworks and religious relics were safely removed. President Trump in Minnesota expressed his concern about of our. Are growing up. It's a part of our culture. It's part of our lives. That's a truly great cathedral. Prosecutors say the fire appears accidental, but they are investigating severe weather pushed through the mid Atlantic states today killing a woman in Virginia that follows Sunday's deadly storms in the south. California's governor says he won't block homebuilding in fire prone areas. Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders has released ten years of tax returns showing he made over a million a couple of times calls on President Trump to release his papers. I'm Jacky Quin.

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