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As COVID-19 ravages the world, closing the digital divide is more critical than ever

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05:07 min | 5 months ago

As COVID-19 ravages the world, closing the digital divide is more critical than ever

"The digital divide continues to be. A massive problem made worse by the coronavirus. Pandemic things are especially bad in appalachia. I'm roger chang and this is your daily charge sina is once again taking a look at this problem. Our series crossing the broadband divide and story in the latest package. Takes a look at the unique problems in appalachia a region with some of these slowest access speeds and accordingly lows incomes in the country with us to talk about. This is editor. Ray hodge welcome. Ray hey roger how are you so to kick things off. He gives us a sense of how big the broadband gap problem is in this area. I loved do that if we could actually find that information out in an accurate way and see. That's the that's the core problem. Isn't it the the big core problem here is that we don't have a full and complete rendering of the map of this digital divide because for many years. Now our our mapping has focused on deployment and not speed or actual access so while we have information about what census tracts have at least one connected household in them. We don't actually know. How many houses in each one of these census tracts is connected end accessing broadband much less whether or not they're getting the speeds that we normally classified as high speed broadband right and so we are looking at numbers that are probably severely. Undercounted the sec report which came out last month said that the number of folks who don't have access to broadband when down to fourteen point five million from about eighteen million a year ago most broadband experts. I think almost all broadband experts including the federal government and folks on the fcc all agree that that number is probably dramatically low and undercounted And and there's been a lot of issues you pointed out with the data behind these broadband maps that the fcc charge of some changes coming and we'll talk about that later later in the but let's let's get back to your story because you take a look at the appalachian region specifically you grew up in kentucky. You still live near louisville this curious. What broadband access has been like for you your family and how. It's changed over the years so we were based out of eastern kentucky. My family was and we've moved away from there. So i'm i'm what you would call the gas for the appalachian diaspora but i didn't get Internet in central kentucky until the same year. We got city water. Run out to our place somewhere around nine hundred ninety eight something like that and even though of course it was it was screeching -ly slow. Pardon the the the dialup pun. But yeah it's been intermittent right so it's taken that long to get it and where i live now in louisville i've got one gig fibre pay around sixty dollars a month. Which is the national average but there are still people out in the areas. Where i used to live in where you know. It may cost him one hundred dollars a month to get dsl equivalent speeds. It's insane the disparity there but growing up with This sort of Slow crawl towards access. It's remarkable to see what progress has been made because there is some but it's incredibly frustrating to see that after decades. This is still happening. These these problems are still happening. You're still dealing with a basic infrastructure and speeds. That are nearly unusable when it comes to like that so you talked a bit about the map and faulty data behind that but what are some of the other issues that has made broadbent hard to come by in this region so we've got a constant narrative going on where it's always sort of presented as a problem with hilly terrain and were unable to run lines or the the issue is often kind of bought and sold by that narrative. And that's really that's only one small part of the equation right. It's not just about hilly terrain because we've been able to make all kinds of technological advancements in these areas all kinds of construction industries like the mining and coal industry have no problem navigating hilly terrain. So you know. Mountains are not necessarily the thing that is always stopping Companies running out there a lot of the times it has to do with the fact that When it comes to infrastructure it has to do with the fact that it's not as profitable for for companies to run lines out into rural areas right even though they may be picking up subsidies and there was some fraud that had gone on in different rural regions By companies historically who claim to have all these people connected and then didn't so that's one part of it the infrastructure politics behind that the other part of it is that there are two digital heights right. There's one which is i. Don't have the lines. I'm divided from my lines. The other one is. I'm divided from the ability to pay for it which is actually the bigger digital divide across rural and urban areas.

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Ex-Energy Secretary Says Fixing Climate Change Is Tough, There's No Vaccine

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06:32 min | 8 months ago

Ex-Energy Secretary Says Fixing Climate Change Is Tough, There's No Vaccine

"President-elect biden plans to change. us climate policies or rather. Pick up where they left off. Resuming efforts disrupted under the trump administration biden talks of the united states generating all its electricity by twenty. Thirty five without emitting carbon into the atmosphere. He wants the whole economy to run on clean energy by twenty fifty. If that can be done at all it will demand changes in technology so we called someone who knows the technology well. Steven chu was a recipient of a nobel prize in physics. He was also secretary of energy in president obama's administration and he says climate change makes the pandemic look simple. There will be no vaccine magical shot for climate change and it's going to have a more profound impact on the world at large if you can imagine that than what we're going through today. Steven chu says. Markets are moving in favor of cleaner energy. President trump's administration loosened fuel economy standards for cars and promoted coal but the coal industry kept dying on. Its own and car companies. Say they are ready to go back to stricter standards. Renewable energy like wind and solar is getting cheaper while oil companies are contemplating a different future. We've been interested by the news that some oil companies are forecasting peak demand Not that their production would peak but that the demand for oil is plateauing or declining in the next few years. Yes i would say it's more plateauing will be a long plateau which is not what they would have said ten years ago. It's in part due to the fact that they are into spain. Electric vehicles will become better and better and they will as they look towards the future. I think the more forward leaning oil companies are saying well essentially by twenty seventy twenty seven five. Whatever we need to be a very different business you're going to actually use oil or natural. Gas is then. The carbon can't be released into the atmosphere in past business cycles. The market has sometimes worked against renewable energy oil prices go up wind and solar lamar attractive by comparison but then oil gets very cheap as it absolutely has been during the pandemic and oil becomes much more attractive. Is there any reason to think that cycle would be broken this time. Yeah the technology is getting better. I go back to something like electric vehicles. Which for personal transportation you can imagine those at twenty twenty five thousand dollar car. That has a three hundred fifty mile range as four times less expensive to own and operate in terms of fuel and maintenance and pretend you can charge two hundred miles in five minutes. Six minutes and means the car batteries last longer than the human bladder. Which is the key criteria. I hadn't thought about that. People are going to stop for that reason. Okay go on. Yes and so. These type of batteries will be deployed so it makes much more sense. People will gravitate towards naturally. That's why the oil companies are looking towards other uses for oil natural gas particularly chemicals plastics. What they really love is if you could use that material to make construction materials that begin to displace cement or seal or at least supplement them in and lower the carbon footprint of those things. Oh because there's a big carbon footprint with those materials does construction materials as well. Oh absolutely cement. For example is responsible. Just cement is responsible for about eight percent of the entire carbon emissions so given the changes in technology and the changes in the marketplace is the biden administration which is set these relatively ambitious climate goals for twenty thirty five and twenty fifty. Are they pushing on an open door. Then no not really because in the end to get rule acceptance is got to be better cheaper and there's a nurse and so if you look at how you make these major shifts in infrastructure. These are half a century investments. How the lifetime of a coal plant. The lives of a national as planned. Lifetime of an automobile is fifteen. Two going on twenty years now. You can retire things before their natural lifetime. But then there's a lot of resistance to do that So the question for the government is how did give this a shove. How did they move things a little faster than they might naturally move on their own. That's right the real question is what will help people make electric vehicle choice. We'll first thing would be. The technology gets so instead of keeping your old car. You really want to have something. That's just better. But how do you retire things before. The national lifetime is initially now. You have to demonstrate that this change is going to be good for not only health but the economy and everything else. It has to be cost effective and cost effective e e. Could incorporate the cost of cumin house. Hopefully the american public will have no trouble trying to understand that when it comes to your own your family your children's health. It's worthwhile one of the reasons i wanted to call you. Was that you were in the obama administration when it was attempting to get climate legislation through congress. And it didn't happen. There was tremendous political resistance. Do you think the political landscape may have changed in a way that will allow more serious investment in fighting climate change. Yes in fact. I would go further and say i think some oil companies you know. I'm on a advisory group to royal dutch. Shell and i truly believe that the company wants to see itself in a completely new business that they cannot be a carbon company that emits carbon into the atmosphere and so there's also growing awareness as the public than companies themselves in. This is a problem. We have to be part of the solution. Even if it means that. We've got to have to completely reinvent ourselves steven chu. It's a pleasure talking with you. Thank you so much. Okay my pleasure.

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Why We Need to Quit Coal

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07:42 min | 8 months ago

Why We Need to Quit Coal

"In nineteen forty eight. The british politician emmanuel shin well appeal to people to avoid wasting coal. But just as i am asking the minor but a greater effort to give you the coal you need. I also asked uses fuel at work and at home to burn coal catholic and to avoid way then cole was seen as key to a prosperous future Now seen as a means to a hotter and deadlier one it accounts for nearly half of the global energy systems carbon dioxide emissions this week a united nations report laid out how coal use must be drastically reduced. If there's any hope of reaching the paris agreements target of limiting warming to one point five or two degrees above pre industrial levels the un secretary general antonio gutierrez urged the world to get rid of it. It is time to put a price on carbon to phase out fossil fuel finance and then fossil fuel subsidies to stop building new coal power plants and co power financing domestically and overseas the report this week from the united nations and a group of international climate. Researchers laid out how difficult it might be to meet of these targets. Charlotte howard is the economists energy and commodities editor. So to meet the one point five degree target coal use would have to drop by eleven percent each year for the next decade to meet two degrees would require coal demand to drop by seven percent. That's about the same decline that we are expected to see this year and twenty twenty which was really a historic bad year for coal amid a global pandemic and so that lays out just how hard it is to achieve these goals but even safe the knowledge that it is a terrible fuel. It is still widely in use right. What what is the the global picture of coal consumption look like well. This has been a really interesting year because in some ways it has eliminated both the progress being made against coal as well as illuminated. Just how tricky. It's going to be to get rid of it. In parts of the world in the west and in europe you've seen coal under consistent pressure due to this combination of factors that are mutually reinforcing from government policy which promotes renewables investors becoming increasingly wary of stranded assets and the risk of investing in coal. As well as really good alternatives to call in america this wave of natural gas that was unleashed by fracking. Helped retire a lot of coal plants and now the cost of renewables have declined by so much that in most of the west new solar new wind is actually less expensive than coal from existing. Coal fired power plants so caused really struggling to compete. And the question is how you can start to drive down coal and other parts of the world where it continues to grow if co falls in the west but rises in asia which already counts for three quarters of coal consumption. You're gonna blaze right past the goals of the paris. Climate agreement and yet the question around fossil fuels more generally has been developing economies can essentially catch up to the west without making those same mistakes while while the west is taking. Its foot off the gas as it were. It's worth remembering that american europe. Of course their own economic development was powered by coal and that even now coal consumption per person in india which is the world's second largest coal consumer is less than half the coal consumption per person in america. And so there's this question of. Why should we limit our own economic growth and limit access to a cheap and reliable form of electric city and so you see countries starting to reckon with this trying to find ways both to meet their climate targets as well as continued to support rapid growth. But you say that. Asia is sort of central to to this equation and yet even china for example is is making very ambitious promises about zero carbon output. That's right you saw decision. Paying set out a goal of carbon neutrality by twenty sixty in september and that is a really big deal. China accounts for more than half of all the world's coal consumption. It is the world's largest emitter so having that level of political commitment from government that essentially controlled is very important and the question is how soon china may act to set in motion plans towards limiting its emissions. There are few really key documents that are coming up. So china's five year plan will be published next year that could include a net cap on coal. Which would allow new installations of coal plants. Only as they replace older ones that are more polluting and then also by the end of december china has to make a fresh pledge to fight emissions under the terms of the paris climate agreement of two thousand fifteen. So i think we'll get some more clear direction soon but it's part to overstate just how important it is to think about china and coal just because of how large the emissions are will. That's the story for china. But you you said. Asia more generally is really the the big piece of this puzzle. Some of the forces that are helping to drive down coal in the west don't fully apply in asia and that's largely because of the degree of government intervention. Obviously in china you have state backed coal companies elsewhere in asia to you have governments that are involved either and owning national electricity companies in india coal. India limited is the state-backed coal company. That is the world's largest coal miner. There's a very difficult political challenge. Which is that. The interests of the state and the interests of the coal industry are very closely intertwined and so even when private capital begins to fall away from coal you can have public support for it and that means that it can be more challenging to make this transition. That in parts of america are parts of europe so with all that in mind then. What prospects do you think for reaching the targets that are laid out in this week's u report. I think there are a few really promising things that have happened. One is just this extraordinary decline of coal fired. Power in the west shows that it is possible. Five years ago. Coal accounted for about a third of britain's electricity generation and in the second quarter of this year accounted for zero point five percent. The other thing is that in the five years since the paris agreement you seen real progress on a number of levels you've seen market forces evolved such that renewables really are competitive in much of the world. Even some middle income countries like indonesia where coal is still technically cheaper than renewables. You've also seen a really big ramp up in commitment from global leaders not just xi jinping but india's government has set very aggressive targets for renewables. Of course you have now. In the form of joe biden someone who really views climate as a key part of his presidency. He signalled his commitment to fighting climate. Change the appointment of john. Kerry's climates are and. I think that having the person who was america's seniormost diplomat a secretary of state during barack obama's presidency is important signaling to the world that a new round of leadership on climate is coming and one of the most important tasks in thinking about climate. Diplomacy is how to encourage this shift away from coal and that includes how to support those who suffer from the shift the workers of course also some of the patients that have vested interests in call.

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Climate Activists Want Biden To Bar Appointees With Fossil Fuel Ties

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03:27 min | 8 months ago

Climate Activists Want Biden To Bar Appointees With Fossil Fuel Ties

"Joe biden has an ambitious climate plan and there are a lot of people with government experience. Who could help implement that plan. But some of them have ties to fossil fuel industries and that is a problem for climate change activists. Npr's jeopardy reports in philadelphia recently. A group of young climate activists marched to biden's campaign headquarters. The sunrise movement often pressures democrats. Back the green new deal but instead biden offered his own climate plan for a slower transition away from coal oil and gas. He has not committed to barring people with fossil fuel ties from his administration. Lauren martinez was sunrise. Thinks he should biden ran on the most progressive climate agenda in us history and one on it. So it's incumbent upon him to take that seriously and put forward people who are accountable to the people that elected him to office the head of the natural resources defense council and former epa administrator gina mccarthy says she understands why young activists want to ban on appointees connected to fossil fuels especially after trump. Put them in key posts including andrew wheeler a former coal industry lobbyist. I mean that's who has been running the environmental protection agency and has gotten us nowhere fast. It's backed us up. It hasn't supported a growing clean energy economy. But here's a problem with a fossil fuel will litmus test biden won't govern alone the us senate could remain under republican leadership that means passing legislation would require compromise and bradbury is ceo of the american exploration and production council. Americans voted for divided government. As part of that you know. I think they voted for moderation. And i think they voted for commonsense. Bradberry sees a future for fossil fuels even under biden's ambitious plan for net zero carbon emissions by twenty fifty worried about climate. Change say there are issues. Republicans and democrats likely can agree on heather. Reams was citizens for responsible. Energy solutions suggests activist focus on things like economic stimulus that boost clean energy. They should looking at the bigger policies and getting to what's possible with getting climate action done today rather than arguing about the position on one's resume among the names on the biden transition team a few have limited ties to fossil fuel but more are from environmental groups. Jody freeman served as councillor for energy and climate change on the obama white house now freeman is at harvard law school and says she sees a trend in the people selected so far i think the clear messages vitality one good people in place wrestling start who have experienced any days and not wasting any time. Freeman is a good example of those who could be excluded. If a biden administration rejects people connected to fossil fuel companies. She sits on the board of oil company conaco phillips but she also led obama's effort to double car fuel efficiency standards. She's also an expert on using presidential powers to address climate change. That's knowledge that likely will be necessary if both parties can't agree on new climate legislation when biden his sworn in next year. Jeff brady npr news.

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Trump and Biden debate their climate and environmental policies

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03:42 min | 9 months ago

Trump and Biden debate their climate and environmental policies

"A lot at Thursday's debate. There was this telling exchange about climate change. Would you close the have a transition from their own industry? Yes. It is a big statement, President Trump again boosted the fossil fuel industries contributing to global warming. Joe Biden is campaigning on a plan for Net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. NPR's Jeff Brady has more on his $2 trillion proposal. Joe Biden's climate plan is ambitious for an economy is big and complex as the United States, but even those connected to fossil fuel industry say it may be doable. Scott Siegal with the energy focused law firm. Bracewell says the plan is pragmatic and includes both regulations and incentives for the growing list of companies focused on using cleaner energy in the future. One thing that makes Biden's approach somewhat comfortable is that you can sketch out that linear commitment to additional resource is to achieve these objectives, which I think most people in business, believe me. Are going to be the future anyway. The country has one example of meeting an ambitious climate goal. The Obama administration's clean power plan aimed to cut emissions from power plants, about a third by 2030. Even though court challenges stopped the plan from going into effect, the country is ahead of schedule. David Doniger is with NRDC Action Fund, The political arm of the natural resource is defense counsel. The power sector is already undergoing changes that have reduced their emissions by more than 30% 10 years ahead of the target that the Obama administration thought was aggressive. In 2015, a big part of that was the collapse of the coal industry. Coal fired power plants continue to go out of business, replaced with cheaper natural gas and renewable energy. Still, the bite and climate plan faces significant hurdles. It relies on technologies that haven't been developed or may not be commercially viable. That's why the plan includes $400 billion over a decade for research. With the economic hit from the Corona virus pandemic. Biden's campaign updated the plan this summer. It includes billions of dollars to hire people for things like plugging abandoned mines and building electric vehicle charging stations. Steph Feldman, with the bite and campaign says the plan also focuses on environmental justice. 40% of the benefit of those investments go to community, the color and low income communities that have been disproportionately harmed by pollution and the effects of climate change. This is especially important to the most vocal climate change activists. While Biden has distanced himself from the green new deal, it is popular, especially with the left wing of his party. Jenny Marino, Zimmer with 3 50 actions as this's thie strongest plan yet from a Democratic presidential nominee, the Biden campaign has committed to doing some really great things like ending leasing of fossil fuels on public lands. We'd like to see them go further and create a true phase out for the entire fossil fuel mystery over Of course of the next decade. Biden's plan has a longer timeline for a transition and includes a role for fossil fuels with offsets and carbon capture. Amy Myers Jaffe manages the climate policy Labatt Tufts University and says overall, this is a credible plan for addressing climate change. The Biden campaign has listed the right things. But the difference between listing things and implementing those things is a big difference. If Biden is elected, he'll likely need a Democratic Congress willing to pass laws and allocate money

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Breaking Down Joe Biden's Plan To Make The U.S. Carbon Neutral

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03:44 min | 9 months ago

Breaking Down Joe Biden's Plan To Make The U.S. Carbon Neutral

"At Thursday's debate, there was this telling exchange about climate change. Would you close the? Transition from oil minister yes. I was trying to. It is a big statement president trump again boosted the fossil fuel industries contributing to global warming. Joe. Biden is campaigning on a plan for net zero greenhouse gas emissions by twenty fifty and peers. Jeff Brady has more on his two trillion dollar proposal Joe Biden's climate plan is ambitious for an economy as big and complex as the United States but even those connected to fossil fuel industry. Say it. May Be Doable Scott Siegel with the energy focused law firm Bracewell says plan is pragmatic and includes both regulations and incentives for the growing list of companies focused on using cleaner energy in the future one thing that makes Biden's approach somewhat comfortable is that you can sketch out that linear commitment to additional resources to achieve these objectives which I think most people in business believe are going to be. The future anyway, the country has one example of meeting an ambitious climate goal. The Obama Administration's clean power plan aimed to cut emissions from power plants about a third by twenty thirty even though court challenges stopped the plan from going into effect, the country is ahead of schedule David. Doniger. IS WITH NRDC Action Fund the political arm of the Natural Resources Defense Council, the power sector is already undergoing. Changes have reduced their emissions by more than thirty percent ten years ahead of the target that the Obama Administration thought was aggressive in two thousand fifteen. A big part of that was the collapse of the coal industry coal fired power plants continue to go out of business replaced with cheaper natural gas and renewable energy. Still, the Biden, climate plan faces significant hurdles it relies on technologies that haven't been. Developed or may not be commercially viable. That's why the plan includes four hundred billion dollars over a decade for research with the economic hit from the coronavirus pandemic Biden's campaign updated the plan this summer it includes billions of dollars to hire people for things like plugging abandoned mines and building electric vehicle charging stations. Steph Feldman with the Biden campaign says, the plan also focuses on environmental justice forty percent. Of the benefits of those investments, go to communities of color and low income communities that have been disproportionately harmed by pollution and the exit climate change. This is especially important to the most vocal climate change activists while Biden has distanced himself from the green new deal. It is popular especially with the left wing of his party Jenny Marino Zimmer with three fifty actions as this is the strongest plan. Yet from a Democratic presidential nominee, the Biden campaign has committed to doing some really great things like ending leasing of also feels on public lands. We'd like to see them go further and create a true phase out for the entire fossil fuel mystery over the course of the next decade. Biden's plan has a longer time line for a transition and includes a role for fossil fuels with offsets and. Carbon Capture Amy Myers Jaffe manages the climate policy lab at Tufts University and says, all this is a credible plan for addressing climate change. The Biden campaign has listed the right things but the difference between listing things and getting those things is a big difference. If Biden is elected, he'll likely need democratic congress willing to pass laws and allocate money to make his plan a reality. Jeff Brady NPR

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Wyoming Doubles Down On Its Long Support For Carbon Capture

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03:35 min | 11 months ago

Wyoming Doubles Down On Its Long Support For Carbon Capture

"US coal production is down to its lowest level in half a century, but the country's largest coal-producing state is desperate to keep the industry going with support from the trump administration. Wyoming is investing big to try and clean up Kohl's carbon emissions. Wyoming public radio's Cooper has more the largest utility in Wyoming Rocky Mountain power has found. It makes economic sense to start retiring. It's coal plants early, an invest heavily and renewables across the West. That isn't going over well in a state whose economy is tied to call. At a recent public hearing county commissioner can't Connolly said when a plant is shutdown, it's not just jobs that are lost by lose. Fifty percent of the taxes is just as simple. Connolly says it doesn't have to be like this coal plants in Wyoming could stick around if utilities just considered retrofitting them to capture the carbon they emit we will change how goal America. There's no doubt about it we'll get. The idea a coal plant would be retrofitted with new tack. Its emissions would be removed and then sold, but rocky mountain power says right now that technology is too expensive and not proven utilities rick, link says its decision is an economic one. Is Driven by. Changes in the heart condition even so Wyoming is doubling down on its long support for carbon capture. This year lawmakers mandated that by twenty thirty utilities produce a certain amount of electricity from coal plants using carbon capture technology ratepayers bear the expensive that the trump administration is also trying to boost carbon capture. It's passed a federal tax credit in his funding research projects. Holly crude cut oversees several through the University of Wyoming. She envisions capturing co two emissions for a variety of profitable uses including turning them into new products. Building Materials asshole replacement. The problem is many others think the moment for Carbon Capture to help Cole has come and Gone Arizona State University's Klaus Lochner remembers giving presentations promoting carbon capture to the coal industry twenty years ago without that, he warned that climate change would be the industry's demise. Is it look if the comes around, you are not going to be allowed to build a new new coal plant because every bank in the country will know that they will not get their money back. So you bid or buy twenty trinite have the ability to build power plants that. Completely carbon neutral but that hasn't happened Energy Economists Rob. God. Says part of the reason could be politics the Republican Party which strongly supports coal actually may have hurt the industry by downplaying climate change climate change doesn't exist. There's no justification to develop low-carbon technologies like carbon capture. So in an ironic way, the Republicans, kill carbon capture as much as anybody else only one coal plant in the US created a successful business model for carbon capture. It's called Petra Nova in Texas, but that fell apart after the pandemic led to an oil price. Crash analysts, Dennis Wanstead with Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis says he can no longer imagine utility saying, Hey, we really WanNa do this. We really want to build a carbon capture facility and we really WANNA put it on our thirty five year old forty-year-old coal plant improve. It's GonNa. Make Money Wyoming Governor. Mark Gordon isn't put off though he points to wind energy, which also needed help early on, but is now a fast growing industry. He says that means you don't give up for NPR news I'm Cooper mckim

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Climate change in the era of coronavirus

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04:17 min | 1 year ago

Climate change in the era of coronavirus

"Kevin as we sheltered home scientists are finding the behavioral changes like telecommuting can significantly reduce emissions but how much good can these changes ultimately make if we're not making them together Naomi arrest kiss is a professor of the history of science at Harvard her books like why trust science explore climate change denial she says climate change in covered nineteen are examples of problems that can't be solved at the local level air pollution doesn't respect state boundaries you put the motion throughout this year it moves because of virus is comparable to this thing didn't stay in China and then we got to America didn't stay in Washington state the rest this is the principle of limited government or leaving it to the states breaks down in the face of these issues and now is the time to remind people the government's role is to solve problems that individuals or states can't solve alone it took federal action she says to abolish slavery and leadership on the federal level to bring us out of the Great Depression it's true government is not the solution to all our problems but it clearly is the solution to many of our biggest problems like public health environmental health which will be most effectively solves all the states can work together rescue since the pandemic proves that Americans are willing to make sacrifices for the greater good and that bodes well for fighting climate change and now my colleague Molly Peterson takes a look at another way that climate change and covert nineteen are connected thanks Peter Riana gun right directs climate policy at the Roosevelt institute is a think tank she says the pandemic has made existing and equities worse if you are low income black and Latino you are far more likely to live near toxic fumes to be exposed to higher levels of toxic pollution which in turn creates a ton of background conditions you're talking about cancers heart disease respiratory issues all of which are linked to higher likelihood having serious complications from corona virus for Andres Soto an organizer with communities for a better environment that vulnerability is always apparent bay area skies are bluer with more people off the road but in Richmond we also see the refinery is still operating apparently a full capacity and there's been absolutely no indication that chevron is going to be cutting back on its pollution while everybody else has to shelter in place he also points out the corona virus has made it harder to pay the rent because of the lack of an efficient social safety net we now find ourselves having to address people's personal needs as our lives have become destabilised by the goal with nineteen and then set us as the pandemic offers a glimpse of what it would look like if the whole planet works together for big solutions here's my friend Danielle vet and she talked to someone with a view about doing that for climate change thanks Molly okay let's get something out of the way while carbon emissions and pollution have plummeted during this pandemic shut down this is not a gift for the earth or any sort of meaningful Denton are carbon output because we got there the wrong way and this can't last we can't have everybody staying in their homes we can't have people thrown out of work we can't have people unable to feed their families Katharine Hayhoe a climate scientist at Texas Tech University says we can however use this as an opportunity to learn this shows is that we do have the power to act and we can't affect incredible change when we do act in the corona virus we recognized a common problem that threatens ourselves our loved ones our communities we want people to be able to live in safety and that's exactly what climate change threatens to we don't know yet Hey ho says if this crisis will spur stronger clean energy and climate policies or make us retreat will this be an opportunity for a Marshall Plan after World War two or the new D. hello or will people use it as an opportunity to return to the past even more strongly rolling back environmental protections as we're seeing today to shore up feeling industries like the coal industry the question is what will we

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What the Coronavirus Means for Climate Change

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04:22 min | 1 year ago

What the Coronavirus Means for Climate Change

"As we sheltered home scientists are finding that behavioral changes like telecommuting can significantly reduce emissions but how much good can these changes ultimately make if we're not making them together Naomi arrest kiss is a professor of the history of science at Harvard her books like why trust science explore climate change denial she says climate change in covered nineteen are examples of problems that can't be solved at the local level air pollution doesn't respect state boundaries put pollution throughout this year it moves because of virus is comparable to this thing didn't stay in China and then we got to America didn't stand Washington state the rest this is the principle of limited government or leading into the state's breaks down in the face of these issues and now is the time to remind people the government's role is to solve problems that individuals for states can't solve alone it took federal action she says to abolish slavery and leadership on the federal level to bring us out of the Great Depression it's true government is not the solution to all our problems but it clearly is the solution to many of our biggest problems like public health environmental health which will be most effectively solves if all the states can work together rescue since the pandemic proves that Americans are willing to make sacrifices for the greater good and that bodes well for fighting climate change and now my colleague Molly Peterson takes a look at another way that climate change in covert nineteen are connected thanks Peter Riana gun right directs climate policy at the Roosevelt institute is a think tank she says the pandemic has made existing and equities worse if you are low income black and Latino you are far more likely to live near toxic fumes to be exposed to higher levels of toxic pollution which in turn creates a ton of background conditions you're talking about cancers heart disease respiratory issues all of which are linked to higher likelihood of having serious complications from corona virus for Andres Soto an organizer with communities for a better environment that vulnerability is always apparent bay area skies are bluer with more people off the road but in Richmond we also see the refinery is still operating apparently a full capacity and there's been absolutely no indication that chevron is going to be cutting back on its pollution while everybody else has to shelter in place he also points out the corona virus has made it harder to pay the rent because of the lack of an efficient social safety net we now find ourselves having dressed people's personal needs as our lives have become destabilized by recorded nineteen MM set us as the pandemic offers a glimpse of what it would look like if the whole planet works together for big solutions here's my friend Danielle van she talked to someone with a view about doing that for climate change thanks Molly okay let's get something out of the way while carbon emissions and pollution have plummeted during this pandemic shut down this is not a gift for the earth or any sort of meaningful Denton are carbon output because we got there the wrong way and this can't last we can't have everybody staying in their homes we can't have people thrown out of work we can't have people unable to feed their families Katharine Hayhoe a climate scientist at Texas Tech University says we can however use this as an opportunity to learn this shows is that we do have have the power to act and we can't affect incredible change when we do act in the corona virus we recognized a common problem that threatens ourselves our loved ones our communities we want people to be able to live in safety and that's exactly what climate change threatens to we don't know yet Hey ho says if this crisis will spur stronger clean energy and climate policies or make us retreat will this be an opportunity for a Marshall Plan after World War two or the new deal or will people use it as an opportunity to return to the past even more strongly rolling back environmental protections as we're seeing today to shore up feeling industries like the coal industry the question is what will we do that part of history is yet to be written we all will be writing it

Coronavirus accelerates decline of slumping coal industry

WTOP 24 Hour News

00:23 sec | 1 year ago

Coronavirus accelerates decline of slumping coal industry

"The coal industry was already hurting before the corona virus and the pandemic is made things even tougher lockdowns are shut off lights in offices in schools sapping demand for electricity provided by coal fired power plants coal production the U. S. is not expected to drop twenty five percent this year the worldwide decline in electricity consumption has resulted in at least one obvious benefits clear skies and lower

Trump administration weakens mercury rule for coal plants

This Morning with Gordon Deal

00:19 sec | 1 year ago

Trump administration weakens mercury rule for coal plants

"Louis from administration gutted the Obama era rule compelling coal fired power plants to reduce mercury emissions environmental protection agency chief Andrew Wheeler a former coal industry executive called the Obama rule regulatory over reach his previous clients had many of the regulatory rollbacks I saw from the

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Russia Pledges To Run Completely Positive Disinformation Campaign In 2020

The Topical

02:55 min | 1 year ago

Russia Pledges To Run Completely Positive Disinformation Campaign In 2020

"Well it's no secret. Politics in this country have gotten ugly most of the time. You can't tell one candidate from the other underneath all the mud slinging but as we approach the twenty twenty presidential election some major players are stepping up to bring back civilized discourse Russian Internet trolls. The same ones known for interfering in the two thousand sixteen presidential election have recently made a pledge to run a completely positive disinformation campaign at twenty twenty joining us now is opr. Washington correspondent Dirk mullins silently. So why are these trolls deciding to run a cleaner? Deception campaign twenty. Twenty hackers and trolls are tired of how militias and unproductive political disinformation tactics have become an America and want the vitriol taken back out of toppling the democratic process I spoke with a member of the Kremlin linked Internet research agency WHO I call Victor. In order to protect his identity off the two thousand sixteen. We recognized that we are becoming bought of his problem. Positive lies a more civilized exchange of false negatives. This is what we are aspiring to to spread. Do Americans in twenty twenty election interesting approach. But how will this affect their campaign strategy this year? Victor says trolls will still be using the same methods we saw in twenty sixteen but in the future thereabouts micro targeting and deep fake videos will focus on spreading fake hope rather than manufactured outrage. We would blame Benghazi on Hewlett. You look up. Look her up. Yeah so mean so negative. This year we will just fell nicely is like say Donald Trump going to Afghanistan on a covert mission and killing an Isis leader with his bare hands or pretending. Automotive and coal industries are doing well now. Those allies every American can get behind while he sounds very dedicated to this turnaround. Well to a lot of hackers like victor. It's more than just a job in public deception. It's something they're very passionate about. This is no sense of decency and forty six anymore. How can I go home at night? And I'm looking my kids in the I when I am sure in memes of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer bearing pile of aborted fetuses. Yes I want to make descent in American democracy but that doesn't mean wall sense of Quantum Chris to be lost and in that spirit. Hackers will no longer link candidates to fake pedophile rings on twitter. But we'll share more respectable memes that are bold and forward thinking like claiming that candidate is extremely viral and has slept with over five hundred men and women that is certainly more optimistic and inspiring but what have been the result so far. Is this new disinformation going viral? Oh it's an incredible success with Americans. Those dumb asses will believe anything they read online. Well sounds like the Republicans and Democrats could learn a thing or two from the Russian operatives dead set on destroying democracy. Thank you Dirk my pleasure.

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Launching Patients over Profits

Medicare for All

10:19 min | 1 year ago

Launching Patients over Profits

"Have some exciting stuff to talk about this week. Most exciting top of the list is that there's a new massive national medicare for all campaign that was launched just this last week Ourselves healthcare now part of a coalition That's going to roll out this campaign it's being led by national nurses United And it has called the patients over prophets pledge So Stephanie Before we get into the details like nuts and bolts of what this campaign is GonNa look like This is a campaign that is targeting. Legislators so they will not take money from the healthcare industry. Why is that important like at this particular stage movement right so as we expected as our movement is taking off there's momentum in Congress and at the grassroots level our opposition has taken noticed and they have organized? They've convened a new organization The Partnership for America's healthcare future may have heard of it which is comprised of bad guys like health insurers members of Pharma hospitals and everybody else who has something to lose shows of commerce single the most exactly So now we have this like mega villain. This transformer of multiple villains Who have have convened this new partnership and they are spending a lot of money. For example on ads on industry aligned speakers on ghost writing op eds for members of Congress and other legislators and employing lobbyists to spread their talking points Why don't we go ahead and listen to to a short clip of an ad? This is like a prime example of what they are running around. The country. Politicians are pushing one-size-fits-all health. Plans Medicare for all Medicare buy buy in in and and public public option. option. All All mean mean the the same same thing. thing. You'd You'd pay pay more more to to wait wait longer longer for for worse worse care. care. So they're doing stuff like this and of course they're also donating millions to our elected officials. So how are we going to take on this new mega opposition that has launched with the express purpose of taking down? Medicare for all So any new has come up with this patients over. Prophets pledge. Ben. Can you tell us a little more about it? Yeah so it's pretty straightforward basically We're going to be asking a legislators Elected officials but especially members of Congress to not accept money from any arm of the healthcare industry. That is part of the Partnership for America's healthcare future any wing of the healthcare industry. That is trying to undermine Medicare for all trying to prevent us from getting the healthcare. We need We want to drive a wedge between this partnership of this empire of evil. Who's trying to stop us from getting our health care and the legislators who were supposed to be representing us. I'll remind you just normal constituents patients so here's a little clip from Max Cotterell of National Nurses United on a national call that they hosted to launch this campaign. The patients over profits pledge is linked to aim to sever those direct ties that corporations actively involved in fighting Medicare for all have been carefully building with politicians across the country. And so in this fight to pass Medicare for all what we know is that will never be able to outspend the for profit industry but we can make the active accepting their campaign contributions politically toxic. Well put Max And you know I would say just a little bit beyond this that any elected official can sign this pledge. Whether that's mayors city councillors a state REP state senators. Any target is fair game but obviously the big boys are the ones in Congress who can actually Enact Medicare for all and who the partnership is just spending hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars trying to weasel their way into their confidences and to get them to oppose this So now I'd like to say that US in the Medicare for all movement can take credit for this campaign design and the structure but actually we have an closely allied movement. Who's had a lot of success with this kind of Pledge Approach Stephanie? Do you want to say a little bit? More about sort of the roots of this tactic and the strategy sure so if this campaign sounds familiar it's because of the climate change momentum. 2017 launched a very similar pledge called the no fossil fuel money pledge after which the patients over prophets pledges kind of designed so the no fossil fuel money pledge prohibited. Siamese from accepting campaign contributions over two hundred dollars from executives political groups or lobbyists in the oil gas or coal industries. So what has been the impact of this? Almost all of the major candidates in the presidential race of sign the pledge although both Biden and budgets have come under fire for violations of of the pledge and over fifty members of Congress and both the Senate and House have signed as well and dozens of elected state and local levels as well I think you know when there was news about Biden holding a fundraiser with an investor in fossil fuels and Buddha judge also having close ties with some of these industry players that has been huge news. And it's really affected perceptions about their campaigns So what do you think? Ben What do you think is the potential of this campaign? Yeah well so first of all. I'm going to play a clip from An activist in the sunrise movement. Who has worked had been heavily involved in this no fossil fuel contributions campaign Talk about what he sees as the impacts and then. I'm going to say a little bit about how that sort of carries over to Medicare for all for us the no fossil fuel money. Pledge has been a tremendous tool for three reasons. I it's been a really good at organizing tool for building are organizing muscle second. It's helped us draw media attention to the corruption of fossil fuel money in politics and three. It's translated into concrete political games both in winning and losing elections as well as the impact inside the legislatures. Yes these are all some of the outcomes that I think we'll see also in the Medicare for all movement I see this pledge as a very versatile tactic right You can target existing legislators who support Medicare for all already. But you know maybe. Their level of commitment is not super strong Maybe we're a little worried that when it comes time to actually vote on this bill we might lose that legislator That they might get cold feet Is the time to try and get them to up their commitment level and to really pledge not to take money from these industries Which I think will more firmly. Secure them in our camp when it comes time to vote But you can also target if you have like a legislator who is so right wing that you don't think they're ever going to back. Medicare for all this is the way to publicly shamed them right and to start imposing political costs on them for making the wrong decision. So I think you can take You can apply this in all sorts of different targets And there's also been a lot of success recently getting candidates to pledge not to take PAC money for example. Obviously not all candidates have of of come up with this have agreed to this pledge but there's paralells of this tactic working in clean elections in anti fossil fuel movement and Clean Energy Movement And I think bringing this tactic to our woman is really going to strengthen us. Yeah I think the corporate pack pledge has been really useful for our movement. Because you know we've seen candidates who have taken the pledge return or refused donations from insurance and pharmaceutical companies but because it doesn't include individuals like you know the new patients over profit pledge does executives have been free to donate money as individuals to candidates. And that's a big issue too right because couple can actually give more than a Pat Ken so two people can give them more than a pack. They can give up to fifty six hundred dollars so marquis who is a co-sponsor of the Medicare for all bill. You know when you look up his campaign donations He has taken Donations actually Max out. Donations From health insurance executives and this pledge sort of encourages us as activists to take a closer look at the financing sources of our incumbent and our candidates. And say look this obviously violates the spirit of your co-sponsorship of Medicare for all a Bill. That would actually do away with these corporations. That are giving you money. You know in please stand with us and not the corporations. Yeah this is another clever way. That that Corporations impact elections sometimes with they won't have an official company. Pack that funnels money to a candidate. They'll like get all the executives in the company to bundle their money together essentially and send it to a certain candidate and then they're gonNA know who it's coming from but this pledge is designed to catch those people to But it is. It will not catch you. Know if some hapless low level employee of pharmaceutical company wants to support where? We're candidate they support. That's fine. We're not going after those contributions so Stephanie. If folks Who listening want to get involved with this campaign One help US pressure. They're elected to take this pledge. How do they do it? How they get involved in. What is it like? Would you have to do to to actually carry this out? Sure if you're listening to this right now you actually can participate in this campaign because every single district there is not been a single signer in Congress of this pledge yet so everybody everybody has somebody to work on totally brand new. So there's going to be a week of Action April six to the tenth Before that we'll be doing canvases to ask people to demand that their representative take this pledge and so we're going to be collecting signatures before that and then we're going to be gathering them together and we're going to have a drop off date sometime in April and both healthcare now and then you have resources to help you organize and recruit for this. You know if you want to. If you want to take the lead in organizing in your area you can do that. If you don't want to take the lead and you just WANNA show up to an event you can also do that so If you want to get involved just send us an email And we will help connect you to this

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New federal rule will hurt renewables, help gas and coal

NPR News Now

00:53 sec | 1 year ago

New federal rule will hurt renewables, help gas and coal

"Federal regulators delivered a victory to coal and natural gas companies in the mid Atlantic Atlantic region. NPR's Jeff Brady reports. New Federal Order will help companies that operate fossil fuel power plants and hurt renewable energy and nuclear generators. There's that receive state. Subsidies amid climate change concerns some states subsidize carbon-free renewable and nuclear power fossil fuel companies. Say That's not fair in a competitive headed if market president trump campaigned on helping the coal industry now. His appointees to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission or Firkh are delivering on that promise specifically in the thirteen states and the district of Columbia that participate in a regional power grid. FURKA is setting a minimum price for all forms of electricity. This will raise utility the bills and keep coal and less efficient natural gas plants operating that otherwise might have closed environmental groups plan to challenge the order in

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Energy Regulator's Order Could Boost Coal Over Renewables, Raising Costs for Consumers

NPR News Now

00:53 sec | 1 year ago

Energy Regulator's Order Could Boost Coal Over Renewables, Raising Costs for Consumers

"Federal regulators delivered a victory to coal and natural gas companies in the mid Atlantic Atlantic region. NPR's Jeff Brady reports. New Federal Order will help companies that operate fossil fuel power plants and hurt renewable energy and nuclear generators. There's that receive state. Subsidies amid climate change concerns some states subsidize carbon-free renewable and nuclear power fossil fuel companies. Say That's not fair in a competitive headed if market president trump campaigned on helping the coal industry now. His appointees to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission or Firkh are delivering on that promise specifically in the thirteen states and the district of Columbia that participate in a regional power grid. FURKA is setting a minimum price for all forms of electricity. This will raise utility the bills and keep coal and less efficient natural gas plants operating that otherwise might have closed environmental groups plan to challenge the order in court.

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Despite Bankruptcy And Illness, Bob Murray Remains A Loud Voice For Coal

Environment: NPR

04:31 min | 1 year ago

Despite Bankruptcy And Illness, Bob Murray Remains A Loud Voice For Coal

"Into Bob Murray's Corner Office in Saint Clair's Ville Ohio feels like stepping back in time. Mr Brady's here Murray wears dark suit jacket with a silk handkerchief poking out of the pocket he sits behind a large dark wood desk. Nice to meet to. Oh Murray returns eighty years old in January and his less steady on his feet than it used to be. He suffers from lung disease but says it's not related to years of working underground in coal minds. There's constant hissing sound in his office. That's the Oxygen Murray needs debris he says three hospitals have rejected him for a lung transplant. Because because of history of strokes not on my fighting for my own life. But I'm fighting for the life of my employees. My company Murray's is recent bankruptcy comes after a long career. He began as a minor then built his own company. Eventually with seven thousand employees. Natalie Biggs is a coal industry three analyst with Wood Mackenzie so a lot of coal companies had Undergone bankruptcy and around Twenty fifteen twenty sixteen and Murray was one of the ones sounds that actually kind of made it through that period and was able to purchase a lot of assets off the back of that or bankruptcy boom big says Murray energy took on debt as the the coal market continued to decline and bankruptcy. Murray says he'll lose ownership of his company. Some of his unionized workers may lose healthcare and pension benefits benefits and the filing is a political loss for president trump. We have ended the war on American energy and we have ended. Ah The war on beautiful. Clean Coal Bob. Murray has had the trump administration's ear. He drafted an action implant. Help coal than delivered it to Energy Secretary Rick Perry photos from the meeting. Show the two men hugging while trump rolled back some environmental regulations. On Murray's is list the administration was not able to deliver the subsidies for coal plants. That Murray wanted he argues that Cole. With fuel stored on site is more reliable. The a natural gas that's piped in and renewable energy that depends on the sun and wind still. Coal is losing market share to these cheaper and cleaner ways of generating being electricity murray argues that makes the electric grid less reliable. But all of a sudden one of these days you'll be hearing about on NPR about this power grid failure and people are going to become alarmed and all of a sudden they don't forget this nonsense called Climate Change Murray predicts that will come during a winter storm and that people will freeze to death. Frankly this is just a scare tactic. Tactic Marianne hit with the Sierra Club. Says there are smart. People running the country's power grids they take into account every coal plant closing and make sure the grid remains remains reliable. Empty promises about bailing out coal plants or reviving the fortunes of the coal industry are just distracting our country from from the real work we need to be doing hit. Says that is moving. The country away from coal and toward cleaner Renewable Energy Murray's climate denial and call boost booster. ISM are evidence of a key element of his personality once. He's concluded he's right about something Murray doesn't give in. Here's another example of that at twelve years ago Murray Energy made news for a tragic mind collapse in Utah that trapped six workers or singing my life I take it obviously to my grave. Demand were never located and ten days later. Three rescuers died as another section of the mine collapsed. A government report concluded there were flaws in the mind design. Murray's company was find more than a million dollars for safety violations yet even today Murray Denies Responsibility. A lot of blame being pointed in the end I was correct. It was an earthquake seismologists at the University of UTAH. Say say. That's just not true. The earthquake was the result of the mind collapsing even now as he struggles for breath just walking across the room. Murray is still oh pushing for what he believes. As company was preparing for bankruptcy Murray delivered a speech in West Virginia calling on federal regulators to subsidize coal. Aw and keep his industry alive.

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EPA Chief Pledges To Severely Cut Back On Animal Testing Of Chemicals

WBZ Morning News

00:35 sec | 2 years ago

EPA Chief Pledges To Severely Cut Back On Animal Testing Of Chemicals

"Makes response this morning to the government's announcement it will move away from testing potentially dangerous chemicals on animals animal rights groups are praising the decision to phase out some animal tests by twenty twenty five and all animal testing by twenty thirty five but groups like the natural resources defense council worry that EPA administrator Andrew Wheeler a former coal industry lobbyist is using this as an excuse to roll back yet more environmental protections enacted by past administrations the chemical industry has joined animal rights groups and welcoming the new policy Vicki Barker CBS

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Energy industry may get looser methane oversight from Trump

Morning News with Manda Factor and Gregg Hersholt

00:30 sec | 2 years ago

Energy industry may get looser methane oversight from Trump

"Oil and gas companies could food soon face much fewer oversight restrictions on emissions of potent climate changing methane gas is is under a proposal expected from the trump administration perhaps as early as today oil industry and environmental groups are confirming this the plan would ease requirements on oil and gas sites to monitor from methane leaks and plug them move would be the latest in a series by the administration easing Obama air emissions controls on the oil gas and coal industries including

"coal industry" Discussed on WTVN

WTVN

02:36 min | 3 years ago

"coal industry" Discussed on WTVN

"In with russia being found to be true and therefore leading to the impeachment to the pressed you know i think one of the interesting effects to the press and i think one of the interesting effects yes of the book so far is a very clear emperor has no clothes affect that the story that i've told seems to present this presidency in such a way that it says he can't do this job the emperor has no clothes and suddenly everywhere people are going oh my god it's true perception in the understanding that will finally end this that will end this this this presidency now the talking point and let me just player short montage she could be a lot longer now the monday wanna talk about the twentyfifth amendment to the united states constitution i'll lose all right when obama was literally pretty much reading the constitution doing things that he himself acknowledged i can't do these things on by executive fiat israeli himself acknowledged i can't do these things on by executive fiat as it relates to immigration and we have him dozens of time saying and then he does it anyway nobody seemed to cares for office at the time by every objective measure we spent a good part of last week laying out for you all of the president's successes which were extensive and exhaustive laying out for you all of the president's successes which were extensive and exhaustive profound deep changes to how this country is covered from everything from getting rid of twenty regulations to every new one that they bring on board the opening up in saving the coal industry literally the opening up anwar to opening up drilling off the coasts of the east coast in the west coast in the gulf of this country in saving the coal industry was a massive in oh executive order an opportunity for the president in a forget about a two year low of americans on food stamps who million fewer people are on food stamps two million fewer people two million more americans are at work the best labor participation rate we've had sent since before obama the best gdp growth we've had for two quarters since bush in out that we have more if the consumer competences roaring and two million jobs created and that's just the beginning because the the president's tax cut plan hasn't even take an impact and it's going to weigh in heavily but if you listen to.

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"coal industry" Discussed on WTVN

WTVN

02:33 min | 3 years ago

"coal industry" Discussed on WTVN

"In with russia being found to be true and therefore leading to the impeachment to the pressed you know i think one of the interesting effects to the press and i think one of the interesting effects yes of the book so far is a very clear emperor has no clothes affect that the story that i've told seems to present this presidency in such a way that it says he can't do this job the emperor has no clothes and suddenly everywhere people are going oh my god it's true perception in the understanding that will finally end this that will end this this this presidency now the talking point and let me just player short montage she could be a lot longer now the monday wanna talk about the twentyfifth amendment to the united states constitution i'll lose all right when obama was literally pretty much reading the constitution doing things that he himself acknowledged i can't do these things on by executive fiat israeli himself acknowledged i can't do these things on by executive fiat as it relates to immigration and we have him dozens of time saying and then he does it anyway nobody seemed to cares for office at the time by every objective measure we spent a good part of last week laying out for you all of the president's successes which were extensive and exhaustive laying out for you all of the president's successes which were extensive and exhaustive profound deep changes to how this country is covered from everything from getting rid of twenty regulations to every new one that they bring on board the opening up in saving the coal industry literally the opening up anwar to opening up drilling off the coasts of the east coast in the west coast in the gulf of this country in saving the coal industry was a massive in oh executive order an opportunity for the president in a forget about a two year low of americans on food stamps who million fewer people are on food stamps two million fewer people two million more americans are at work the best labor participation rate we've had sent since before obama the best gdp growth we've had for two quarters since bush in out that we have more if the consumer competences roaring and two million jobs created and that's just the beginning because the the president's tax cut plan hasn't even take an impact and it's going to weigh in heavily but if you listen to.

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"coal industry" Discussed on WTVN

WTVN

01:41 min | 3 years ago

"coal industry" Discussed on WTVN

"The west coast in the gulf of this country in saving the coal industry was a massive in oh executive order an opportunity for the president in a forget about a two year low of americans on food stamps who million fewer people are on food stamps two million fewer people two million more americans are at work the best labor participation rate we've had sent since before obama the best gdp growth we've had for two quarters since bush in out that we have more if the consumer competences roaring and two million jobs created and that's just the beginning because the the president's tax cut plan hasn't even take an impact and it's going to weigh in heavily but if you listen to the media they found a new savior and i always said obama was the anointed one you in every liberal today it's oprah winfrey should just be appointed president tomorrow and a because the twentyfifth amendment laos cabinet members to get rid of the president of the united states and his fitness for office hope the twentyfifth amendment to the us constitution deals with succession to the presidency and establishes procedures for filling a vacancy in the office and the office of the vice president as well as responding to presidential disabilities and it's superseding what was felt was a net and more ambiguous wording of article to section one clause six of the constitution would didn't it at that point didn't expressly state whether the vice president becomes the president or the acting president if a president dies resigns whereas remove her office or incapacitated yeah okay now they this is the latest effort to de legitimize and overthrow a duly elected president not by any objective measure in a as joe scarborough.

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"coal industry" Discussed on Fareed Zakaria GPS

Fareed Zakaria GPS

02:33 min | 4 years ago

"coal industry" Discussed on Fareed Zakaria GPS

"Hillary clinton pressure have you on thank you for aid now for something completely different the trump administration said this week it's bringing back cold despite admissions from the coal industry that it will level really come back and while america's going back to the 19th century china is moving into the twentyfirst faster than anyone might have expected i'll explain the war on coal is over that was scott pruitt head of the pa announcing the trump administration's repeal of the obama era clean power plan that policy from the last administration was intended to curb carbon emissions from coalfired power plants the story ran on the front page of the new york times and right under it was another story detailing china's massive new investment in electric cars part of beijing's determination to dominate the era of clean energy technology it is a tale of two countries and to strategies the trump administration has decided to move into a new century the 19th century dean fifty coal accounted for half of all us electricity generation it is now down to a third additionally massive automation has meant the jobs in the industry are disappearing down from one hundred seventy six thousand in 1985 to just fifty thousand in 2017 machines and software replacing workers in coal mines justice surely as in other industries and these trends are unlikely to change despite trump's policy shift the reason is economics the price of natural gas has plummeted in recent years and its share of us electricity generation has nearly tripled since 1990 solar costs have also been plummeting coalfired power plants at one of the nation's leading source of carbon dioxide emissions and most scientists agree those emissions lead to global warming and of course coalfired power plants cost terrible air pollution with all its attendant health problems and costs that's one of the reasons why china which suffers over a million deaths a year because of poor air quality is making huge investments in clean energy the country has become one of the world's leading producers of wind turbines and solar panels with government subsidies enabling its companies to become costefficient and global in their aspirations.

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"coal industry" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

01:43 min | 4 years ago

"coal industry" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"Affected the coal industry and affected the utility industry out shut did did have a major effect on coal and cold our power plants and so it's just if anything there there's more delay going on here to implement some of these changes of course if the the the upcoming elections change that the uh the makeup of congress uh does that mean that we may see reversals of the reversals i don't i don't think so i think that what we're seeing right now are are there it's it's administrative making so these are things that will be fought out in the courts and not necessarily in congress you may seem what of course they're in reaction to administrative making by obama which uh these many of these people called on constitutional that's right that's right so would they they're what they're doing be unconstitutional as well well i think they felt as though the moves that the obama administration was taking were unconstitutional and that they are now getting back to the basics us scott pruitt puts it but i think what will be interesting if there is a change in congress is that you may say see more powerful oversight where sheldon whitehouse he'd mentioned earlier the senator from rhode island has at a difficult time as a a senator in the minority getting information from the pruitt epa and dha if if there is a change in congress that that dynamic may change documentary filmmaker james akobe's film war on the epa will be broadcast tonight at ten pm on pbs television stations as part of the frontline series thank you so much prieto shell thank you oh.

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"coal industry" Discussed on Environment: NPR

Environment: NPR

01:37 min | 4 years ago

"coal industry" Discussed on Environment: NPR

"Support for this npr podcast in the following message come from chevron chevron celebrates innovators and entrepreneurs who create build and do and chevron is finding better ways to do with they do to help keep doers doing the coal industry is cheering the trump administration's move to repeal the clean power plan that was president obama's signature everett to address climate change eta administrator scott pruitt formerly started that process today but as npr's jennifer leaden reports it is not clear how much that will help an industry in decline getting rid of the clean power plan was one of president trump's biggest promises here he is campaigning in west virginia last year forget about the martyrs all over this country we're going to put up myers back to work we're gonna heart since taking office trump has helped the coal industry pushing to repeal some obama era regulations that had not yet taken effect starting a regulatory process to roll back others but chris hamilton of the west virginia called association says this is the big one the not think it signifies in grand fashion the war on coal is over the clean power plan aimed to cut carbon emissions from power plants by a third by 2030 where than two dozen states filed suit to stop the plan ed it never took effect the call industry officials say it's still led many utilities to shift in natural gas or renewable power since two thousand eight kohl share of electricity has plummeted from half to less than a third as dozens of plants have closed and thousands of jobs are cut.

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"coal industry" Discussed on WTMA

WTMA

02:29 min | 4 years ago

"coal industry" Discussed on WTMA

"Welcome to the program we appreciate you being along with us this morning all right so we've got we've got the president and out there he's going to roll back some of obama's regulations that he imposed for the simple the simple goal of bankrupting the coal industry that's what he wanted to do and all you don't believe me well that's pretty easy to prove now you might remember one of the things that hillary clinton said while she was on the campaign trail is that she was going to do that she's a lot of these coal miners a lot of these people to work in gold you're going to be out of a job now brands use bragging about it brandon about putting people out of work i think that's one of the reasons that this woman is not in the white house and you can drop japanese every night him think the good lord above that that is the case however january 17th two thousand an eight this is what obama said about the coal industry under my plan of a capandtrade system the electrosleep rates would necessarily scott rock skyrocket electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket we would have to do this we we were going to have to make rates go up when we started shutting down these nuclear power plants so the president is going to be rolling bags some of these and remember this was just a this is an executive order and anything that is under executive order can certainly be undone by the next president we always have to remember that but a lot of people in the coal industry are very very happy about this because it protects jobs in this country i mean i just the again wind is a president get into the business of destroying an entire industry now here's what you're going to be hearing and another j o b move they're looking do you know gut obama's emission regulations replacing called the clean power plan where they dirty power plan that is from mother jones's morning a dirty powerpacked power plant as what they want you they they they want you to add actually thing that president trump wants us to be walking around wearing masks you know those surgical mask because of all the cold most.

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"coal industry" Discussed on The Daily

The Daily

02:04 min | 4 years ago

"coal industry" Discussed on The Daily

"That's absolutely right now what scott pruitt is reportedly going to do tomorrow when he formalizes the repeal of the clean power plan is also indicate that the epa we'll think about soliciting comments from the public about what could take its place i think there's a hope within the epa that that act will satisfy the courts for awhile um that they will be able to tell the courts look we're looking for a replacement we need to take time and talk to people from just about every buddy i've spoken with and this is from industry and environmental groups alike see this as just a clear delaying tax whether you lament the fact or don't lament this fact the coal industry in the united states is dying right so what's the significance of replacing the clean power plan is it too slow that death to preserve a few coalfired power plants or what exactly so i think the trump administration would and they have argued that they are reviving the coal industry in most energy analyst say that is just not possible on arrival fossilfuel natural gas is somewhat cleaner and dramatically cheaper um and in fact the the low price of natural gas is what it has been driving most of the shuddering of coalfired power plant i just spoke the other day with dt energy and in michigan they are in the process of closing down i think by twenty forty the last few coalfired power plants they have um you know and they're they're kind of agnostic about ending the clean power plan they say look we're moving to cleaner energy because it's better for our business that's the bottom line decision for them not a regulatory decision and even if it were possible how can the us revive the coal industry while also reducing co 2 emissions is that possible.

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"coal industry" Discussed on KKOB 770 AM

KKOB 770 AM

01:34 min | 4 years ago

"coal industry" Discussed on KKOB 770 AM

"You have is along the same lines technology uh is ramping up even while the left did indeed him an obama made it plain he was going to destroy the coal industry this is why western theory uh is interesting to me obama ran at very openly promised during his campaign leave is going to attack the coal industry put it out of business and make it the stupidest decision in the world for a business to stay in coal it was going to be prohibitive there wouldn't be any profits all of the guys of sustainability clean energy renewals and saving the planet and so forth but what if the objective was actually you couple that with the fact that the obama campaign openly admitted that they were abandoning white middleclass workers voters in exchange for a coalition of added up minority groups but in the midst of all this technology technology doesn't stop for any of this a democrats can't suppress it simply safe home security systems are evidence and proof of the technological advancements that a recurring whether they or desired or not the founder of simply safe head to reinvent the way homes can be secured because he lived in the park in the collagen landlord wooden by security since the end of invent something for his own unit he used wifi.

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"coal industry" Discussed on KTLK 1130 AM

KTLK 1130 AM

02:15 min | 4 years ago

"coal industry" Discussed on KTLK 1130 AM

"During or whatever it by data and and that and the national security side of that is so important sometimes it gets lost uh you know the the coal industry relative to keeping the grid oakland i think it in them an important conversation for the country to have you and if we have another polar border text in the northeast like we had in 2014 and they don't have the power to run those powerplants because you know the previous administration decided coal is a really bad day and we're seeing kohl being able to be used and very efficient way with high lee efficient low emission plant a america's driven down their emissions more than any other country in the world that numbers that come from the international energy and think right so we're doing a lot of things right we didn't need to be fine accord accorded paris france to do the right thing we don't need folks around the world frankly again don't necessarily have our best interests in mind telling us what we can bond when we can burn it and our technology has led this revolution and uh and shale gas i will suggest to you but we did on acid rain and reducing all of the sulphur content of the power plant the america has always been about innovation america than about lead in the world and that's what donald trump believes dan and he's a leaking that again in the form of american energy one last question i appreciate the access i appreciate your friendship over the years and you've always be just great for my viewers of my listeners we have to know though because the president will tweet anything he feels like tweeting it will say anything he feels like saying rick weight when when the president calls and you go meet with him or if you talk to him on the phone on how the revocation happens he's he that same guy is he just that direct at all times in is that refreshing or d do you wish that he might think about download it back a little bit well listen the americans wanted a major course chang brain this country and they got that uh you know donald trump's not going to stand out and proud american people sam perk at hebron that that not who yet uh but he got that out in.

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"coal industry" Discussed on KSFO-AM

KSFO-AM

02:17 min | 4 years ago

"coal industry" Discussed on KSFO-AM

"Purpose as the president the former president said himself to skyrocket electricity prices that was his other plan we want to skyrocket electricity prices so other people so people are forced to buy hi electrcity from sources that they would never buy because they have skyrocketed through the roof we wish to bankrupt the coal industry remember that member that they got there there were pretty close to being area much and and remembering that one week that die hillary wanted to kill the coal jobs right in a bernie sanders and wanted to kill the trucking jobs and then president bombed by the end of the week like i got to get aboard above this was last august arrogant in on this and he said oh okay of a we're not going to open up the uh the the the northeast that that a portion of the the atlantic ocean were there's really no progress your drilling offshore drama not going to do it i mean there's really no environmental problem accept the fact that you know we got the approval to do it but it will increase global warming so we're not going to do it anymore so he attempts in uh he he tries to kill more oil jobs the the basic problem with the democrats when it comes to an economy is they don't believe in a private economy they don't believe in mining they don't believe in going after our natural resources which are critical to manufacturing any democrat listening to me right now no sets the truth i go back to my my uncle norm who was a a lifelong democrat and believe and ended were jared does any is anybody who's not to remember you should if you're under even if you're under 50 if you're over 40 you have to remember remember democrats are for the working person they want to keep the manufacturing base going they don't anymore they don't wanna keep the manufacturing base going it's impossible to want to keep the manufacturing base going when you want to kill the natural resources that are absolutely critical to manufacturing it's gone to the point though as a couple of years ago where a guy called us up and said beyond or stan shih you guys want a manufacturer stop that comes from the earth as a post where else you wanna take it from the.

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"coal industry" Discussed on PRI's The World

PRI's The World

01:47 min | 4 years ago

"coal industry" Discussed on PRI's The World

"He also remembered trump promising to save the coal industry so amelie charm which president trump saying we're to local people that you said you listen to and that you can support the coal industry now is the time to make that real that began was disappointed the trump administration has not lifted a finger for us and i don't believe that he will but gave wanted president trump to make a dramatic deal to save the plant what he got instead was more subtle help a federal agency that's part owner of the plant is negotiating to keep it open two more years they have until saturday to reach a deal and if they do the feds hope that buys time to find a new owner keep the power plant open longer but that's actually not a big focus for big a anymore he's pivoted since this winter and is looking at a new way forward for his people were upgrading our tar infrastructure were fusion money for small businesses some trying to get our nation to make the transition and ironically for a guy who recently wanted president trump to subsidize call that transition includes moving toward cleaner energy part of it is creating shoulder farms wind farms natural gas of the river runs through novel who nation for hydro electricity production the gay has negotiated for rights to the power plants transmission lines so the reservation can use them to sell power from different sources sold thus huge to me is to be able to rise out of this like the phoenix right been more selfsufficient than ever before in the history nabeul nation.

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"coal industry" Discussed on WJR 760

WJR 760

03:04 min | 4 years ago

"coal industry" Discussed on WJR 760

"Had opened up a eight essentially a new coal mine for all intents and purposes there was a a new kind of coal mine was in coal country it was going to create new jobs would pay fifty two hundred thousand dollars a year and it was immediately ripped to shreds was ripped to shreds by the by the media and the climate change crowd my trunks got no this is living in the pet callers they'll be dirty and it turns out that this coal plant is not even going to be used for energy this call is going to be used in the manufacture steel and you'd be amazed at a number of things in your daily life that have steel in the you can't do without but it's not even it's not even the chemicals will be used for energy went to talk to these people who are going to be affected by this they are they have not abandoned trump they loved trump they they are thrilled that trump has not forgotten them in terms of the promises he made during the campaign she goes places that the drive bys fear to tread they will not go there coal company she actually talked to the beat liu work and walked to work and voted for trump and she found out that they're just as enthusiastic they are supportive and grateful trump came through on his promise regarding coal and the coal industry and she she found that these people think that what's been reported about their industry in this particular mind that's going to be opened up uh is is is is it's the misinformed they're missing the boat on this and they think they are just this legitimately apart of america as journalists are or anybody else's they resent being laughed at and made fun of they resent their industry being portrayed as something archaic and dangerous and polluting a and a an instrument of climate change global warming she goes up and finds these people as and some of the things about this plant uh that she uncovered are fascinating the coal from this mine is not going to be used for energy as i say instead it's going to be used for the production of steel for the next fifteen years i don't know if you knew this or not coal is used to make seventy percent of the steel in the world today steel here's a list of where places it's found it sounded cars bicycles all the the the the health crowd loves bicycles i invite singles are saving the planet by signals are reducing our carbon footprint by singles are part of the quest for good health.

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"coal industry" Discussed on KSFO-AM

KSFO-AM

02:53 min | 4 years ago

"coal industry" Discussed on KSFO-AM

"Opened up a eight essentially a new coal mine for all intents and purposes there was a new kind of coal mine was in coal country it was going to create new jobs would pay fifty two hundred thousand dollars a year and it was immediately ripped to shreds was ripped to shreds by the by the media and the climate change grabbed my trump's got no this is living in the pet coldest is building its dirty and it turns out that this coal plant is not even going to be used for energy this coal is going to be used in the manufacture of steel and you'd be amazed at a number of things in your daily life that have steel in them that you can't do without but it's not even it's not even the chemicals he'll be used ramos she went to talk to these people who are going to be affected by this they are they have not abandoned trump they loved trump they they are thrilled that trump has not forgotten them in terms of the promises he made during the campaign she goes places that the drive bys fear to tread they will not go there coal country she actually talked to the beep liu work and walk to work and voted for trump and she found out that they're just as it does he asked nick they are supportive and grateful trump came through on his promise regarding coal and the coal industry and she she found that these people think that what's been reported about their industry of this particular mind that's going to be opened up uh is is is is it's the misinformed they're missing the boat on this and they think they are just this legitimately apart of america as journalists are or anybody else's they resent being a laugh and made fun of they resent their industry being portrayed as something archaic and dangerous in polluting i and a an instrument of climate change global warming she goes out the finds these people as some of the things about this plant that she uncovered are fascinating the coal from this mine is not going to be used for energy as i say instead it's going to be used for the production of steel for the next fifteen years i don't know if you knew this or not coal is used to make seventy percent of the steel in the world today steel here's a list aware places it's found it sounded cars bicycles all the the the the health crowd loves bicycles i invite.

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"coal industry" Discussed on WCHS

WCHS

02:55 min | 4 years ago

"coal industry" Discussed on WCHS

"Coal mine for all intents and purposes there was a a new kind of coal mine was in coal country it was going to create new jobs would pay fifty two hundred thousand dollars a year and it was immediately ripped to shreds it was ripped to shreds by the by the media and the climate change grab what trump's got no this is living in the pet called is building its dirty and it turns out that this coal plant is not even going to be used for energy this call is going to be used in the manufacture steel and you'd be amazed at a number of things in your daily life that have steel in loom that you can't do without but it's not even it's not even the chemicals will be used for him she went to talk to these people who are going to be affected by this they are they have not abandoned trump they loved trump they they are thrilled that trump has not forgotten them in terms of the promises he made during the campaign she goes places that the drive bys fear to tread they will not go there coal country she actually talked to the beat liu work and want to work and voted for trump and she found out that they're just as enthusiastic they are supportive and grateful trump came through on this promise regarding coal and the coal industry and she she found that these people think that what's been reported about their industry in this particular mind that's going to be opened up uh is is is is it's the misinformed they're missing the boat on this and they think they are just this legitimately apart of america as journalists are or anybody else's they resent being laugh data and made fun of they resent their industry being portrayed is something archaic and dangerous and polluting uh and a a an instrument of climate change global warming she goes out in finds these people as some of the things about this plant uh that she uncovered are fascinating the coal from this mine is not going to be used for energy as i say instead it's going to be used for the production of steel for the next fifteen years i don't know if you knew this or not coal is used to make seventy percent of the steel in the world today steel here's a list aware places it's found it sounded cars bicycles all the the the the health crowd loves bicycles i vice illegals are saving the planet viaticals are reducing our carbon footprint paved the goals.

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"coal industry" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

Bloomberg Radio New York

01:41 min | 4 years ago

"coal industry" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

"From ayers and emissions the us might be that that the us just removed one more check on a mission so by staying in the deal there'd be more pressure from other countries any real inside the us to keep pushing trump administration to rethink its position so there's no direct tangible of fact uh the policies that really matter to smoke stacks for example are the ones set by donald trump and he has the authority as a presidents do that without pairs here's how i'm beginning to understand this as i am reading your stories and learning more about this tell me if i'm wrong when you pick all of us apart it doesn't really seemed to have like you just alluded to the horrifying impact that environmentalists might be concerned about nor was it the big threat to jobs in the united states that the trump administration would have you believe a had the had we stated in the end in there agreement it it seems like these he says two extremes everybody's arguing about and that's not where we go yeah i think the you know at a very high level you could dismisses as mostly symbolic but it you know it's if you'll issues the phrase it's important symbolism right at chelsea you by pulling appears the pair's decision isn't itself what matters but as an indicator of how soon serious president trump is about not doing it in climate eight that's where the concern comes in likewise the era in the coal industry for example you look at this and see hey maybe this guy really will get our backed down the road when other things come up but just by itself it's hard to draw any straight line from the paris decision to any actual oh real world effects in the us or anywhere.

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"coal industry" Discussed on KARN 102.9

KARN 102.9

02:22 min | 4 years ago

"coal industry" Discussed on KARN 102.9

"A you know in in in some type of agreement like that now i it's i honestly believe the rest of the world in terms of their citizens of other nations they look at this and go it doesn't make sense that are got if their governments you know or a part of it or part of the whole global warming movement you know in australia they had to roll some of that back in in other parts of the world when they get burned because what happens you knew start hurting jobs you start hurting the economy you start passing that cost along under my plan of cap and trade electricity rates would necessarily skirt necessarily skyrock when you say that and then follow through with it and were but are we sing with the coal industry nearly gone it's on its last leg as a matter of the government forcing that which forced great cost into essentially the the the pricing of energy it especially in those regions that rely heavily on coal but that's that type of of a promise that type of of approach is the jobs killer if if we want to replace it with whatever it's going to be then great let the private sector come up with something that's going to be efficient it's going to be reliable and that's going to again be relatively cheap raw as as we saw with the kyoto protocol that was the first global warming agreement that didn't work they didn't get now and get down to their level who was the the who was the only country that made major strides there really wasn't a part of that right the united states how did we do it fred gain hip natural gas and fracking if technology is what got us to do it and that's what you know and that's trump said that yesterday that you know i did the best thing wall street journal had agreed a tourist in the best way to be able to solve if these are huge problems in the future but pollution in general the best way to solve it is a robust economy were you have much more of a chance of coming up with a technology that is needed in the future but to kill an economy and like i said even bjorn lundberg.

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