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"co infections" Discussed on Living with Lyme
"There are many like cohen factions. That can worsen align faction in. We're not even looking for most of the colin factions. Now some of it and some of them were weaponized conventions and i believe some got out of the land slide. Maybe wuhan we don't know But you have like really small interest. Cellular bacterium like recap zia's spotted bieber and bartonella which is in the recap fant fan recaps family. And there's just not a lotta research on them. We couldn't really Studied them until recently had better microscopes better stains more sensitive has so. We're just ignoring that. Part of the problem and i were that a lot of money is going into the lime maxine but a lime vaccine might do more harm than good because then air before right. Yeah david muir eleryan but might do more harm than good because it gives you a false sense of security Of going in the woods because the ticks also have many other deadly. Germs like poss- virus bourbon virus Burnell on which. I believe that we'll find out. The bartonella is much wider than we realized. Because they're in there. They're hiding out in our cats you know. Yeah yeah and you know. is unfortunate in my concern. Now while we're dealing with a co bid is that people are taking to the outside taking to the woods taking to hiking you know because that's where worst safer as outdoor with fresh air. And so i'm waiting to hear what happens is just my fear that people are going to be and then you can't get care that's the other thing that's the crazy thing has seen in the office and what happens if you have this spiking raging fever. And you're so sick and you want to go to the er they're turning people away. We're at we're oh god this is like it can be can crazy So i'm waiting to see over the next Maybe three to six months if we're going to end up especially you know from the fall. If if there's been more issues come springtime when people really get outside will see you know. Time will tell you know. I think chris that in light of everything that you have learned There's gotta be some great positives you know for more people to be educated and to understand that somebody is taken the time to research this. This is not just nilly willy. kind of guesswork. This is solid evidence based information. And i guess for what. I'm trying to have people understand. You can get pretty angry about this. But i don't want people to take that This information and becomes so angry about it. It is something that is important to understand There's lots of things that are going on Governmentally that we don't know about and it's very secret and this is really a very unfortunate thing that has happened in the injury to people in the sustained. Illness is really really awful. But people need to be aware they need to be aware of this disease in need to be aware of needing to be tested for co-infections. You need to know that General hospital labs may not have the best test that they may need to spend money out of pocket to get some more definitive testing And it's important because you can't just sit back and say nothing in do nothing in accept the illness you really. You have to work with people find people network with people in terms of how to get the help that you need and so this has been a huge positive. I think chris because people you know people who don't educate themselves people who just rather just turn their head or bury their head in the sand. They're not going to be helpful. Yeah i mean the thing. I always tell people. Is you have to be your own advocate. And don't try to change the mind of a physician whose his been indoctrinated in what is probably false information. You find someone else. 'cause you have to find some with its disease. It's not like two weeks of antibiotics will carry. You need to have like someone who will be your champion through the whole process because it's a multi Set of diseases. And you're going to need to go to a bunch of specialists in make sure the medications don't clash and there has to be that natural path detoxifying component to that. I know you expose. And it's absolutely essential otherwise you'll end up with these collateral Like seen difficile man. Yeah collect and you know what people show up with underlying gut issues that either. They've had some symptoms or maybe not so much or some people are have horrific symptoms. And you know. That's where bulk of our immune system is well. Is there anything else any anything that you feel people need to hear outside of what you just said which is so important. Is there anything that you feel That that people need to understand or telling me there anything. We've left nothing. I always tell people. Is that since the line test. Aren't that reliable in the first month if you pull off tick senate in to an agency detector tests woodson the ticks. If there's one message. I want people to leave within the book is if you're not getting better and you have freaky symptoms and wine tests positive or you're not getting better after the regular lime treatment is look at the cow infections. If you send the taken like. Pennsylvania has an amazing Test setup were pennsylvania.
"co infections" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM
"Com. Excellent and there's basically It's a how to people can just go through the techniques of everything. The diet the works, right, right. I present all the things that I did that helped me come out of it. It's pretty thorough. From herbs. Only a path takes to antibiotics, but also teach you how to do this own become your own intuitive to start fighting the remedies that are right for for your body. Well, that's important to do that. What? What are confections in your book? What do you mean by that? Co infections. What are the section? So? So? As I mentioned before, when the tick bites you Usually it can dump a whole smorgasbord of bugs. And you, including line, which we call Borelli, A another co infection is that BC about when I talked about is a pro zone you can get into your heart. Sparks and Ella, which is another one, and Ehrlich, Kia, and I ended up dealing with all four of them. It's like that kind of take turns on a double triple quad, Ram it with me. Yeah. Fun. Did you give her get to the point where you just thought you wanted to give up? Oh, yeah, You have moments, one of the hard parts of lines that there's a very much this psychiatric component to it. You get a lot of anxiety and panic attacks. There's a tremendous amount of fear associated with it. So you feel like you You just want to give up. You feel like you've been you're being taken over by. You know, some entity or some beast wants to get into you and elect you know how I broke that code. All right, let's go back to the calls. Let's go the first time collar Jack in Butler, Pennsylvania to get a started. Hey, Jack, thanks for calling. Thank.
Patient tests positive for both flu, COVID-19 in California amid ‘twindemic’ warnings
"Covert cases are spiking across the U. S. And this is also flu season and yes, you can get both ABC is Alex Stone reports. A patient in California has both covert 19 and the flu at the same time, it's happened elsewhere. But now California Solano County is reporting the first case of flu and Cove, it 19 co infection. It's when a person under 65 years old who has tested positive for both The county's had doctors, saying one illness can weaken a person's immune system to get the other illness at the same time, and that it's a reminder to get a flu shot to offer some protection.
"co infections" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"And we're told that if you don't do it, if you're post that, then you're not following the science. Well, they get to pick and choose which science that they choose that we should all follow. It's almost like if you don't follow this version of science, and then they make it a moving target. It was about member in the very beginning of Cove it What was it about mortality overcrowding, the hospitals. And so then what happened is like now It's about positive cases. And now when it comes to flu shot now, what are they saying? The same script. Hey, let's not overcrowd the hospital. We don't want co infection here with Kovar 19 and also the flu. So make sure you get your flute. They're using the same script in If you know that here, it's the mask mandates. If that is what is the number one thing that helps to control the virus? Well, then what would you see? You would see the number a positive cases going down over the summer as the adherence to the mass mandate went up. I went out by 20% across the board in some states of his higher But then what do you see? You still see the the positive cases rising because what that's the natural course of a virus. Ours is going to do what's going to do. Regardless of whether we wear masks or not. It's going to infect people who are vastly sick, who have health problems because of Iris is going to seek its most natural habitat. Habitat Workin prive infect, and then that's what then causes the spread. So if we really cared about giving people solutions, and we know that healthy people are not at risk, we could focus on Helping people get healthy because we know that health is not a static state of being my right when I say that. I mean your health today. Yeah. Influences your health tomorrow. But you don't have to say my health is what it is what it is, and it's never going to change. But we can help those people make strides and be more competent, which helps them right away. And whether viruses better But instead what really just throws me is seeing Us govern with false solutions and fear and it breaks my heart to see people thousands hundreds of thousands across the U. S. I would venture to say millions. I saw a report today and it's not coming to me, however, are still afraid to leave their homes. Right and then those who are afraid and that do venture out and then you see The influence on the Children and you see how they're They're with their, you know? Ah, being afraid of other people. Pulling their Children away from other people walking into coffee shops freaking out that there's people sitting at the table sipping on there, you know, sipping their coffee without wearing masks and then turning right around. We saw this recently turned right around and pulling that child, so we got to get out of here. There's people in there not wearing masks. We got to go somewhere else. Right. That level of paranoia will have generational effects on those child's minds, which Is what we're here to help with. You know, we need to show people and model hope to people that we don't have to be afraid and that's not Dare I say That's not a political statement? No, This is not about politics. This has been made political, so we're good. We're hearing this. Like I don't want to tune into a show about health and listen to politics is not about politics. This has nothing to do with politics. It's about having faith over fear when it comes to trust in your body, and really Trusting the model of the terrain theory of health understanding that the germ theory of health has been debunked at this point, and it's not about a germ or a virus or bacteria. It's all about building a healthy immune system. And when you understand that's building a healthy immune system. Now we're talking herd immunity. Now we're talking about building really health, generational health of faith over fear and really understanding and trusting the body, and we're talking about kids who learned from what we're walking through and who do better. Next time we see this happen? That's right. Well, I appreciate your time until you have places to be, and we're going to go to a short break when we come back. We're talking about a new language and health care that I believe causes more harm than good, And I believe it's critically important. As you go into the lion's den that we call health care to understand Maura about some of these strategies and also just some of the things that are going on behind the scenes that really dictate your health and health care. And we're also going to be discussing better questions that you can ask when it comes to your health. Ember. The quality of your.
"co infections" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"Co infection, the researchers say, is very rare. Why is it that it's so rare? Could it be that your body is fighting off both at once that it's smarter than what we give it credit for? Or could it be that these PCR tests that were using is detecting fragments of a virus, not necessarily the infection of the virus. Either way. Did you know that that that's what's happening is that we're detecting fragments of the virus and not necessary person who's actually infected with the virus. That's different, by the way. But yes, yet they also are dealing with flu. So now you're gonna have more people who are being diagnosed as a co infection. Yet their body is really just dealing with it all at once, because the body is in a highly intelligent Take it on the Facebook. Facebook page facebook dot com slash asked Dr Wilson I posted about the flu shot also on YouTube. You can see the whole episode. There. Hey, Did you see what just was recently published within the last few weeks was that the adherents to the mass mandate has increased by over 20% over the summer. This is from Pew Research. And I'll post this in the talk notes or in the comments or somewhere below where you can find this, and they are demonstrating that now 85% of Americans are now wearing face covering her masks when they go out in public. That's up by 20% looking at this research that shows that the same questions were asked in June. During the summer, and that number was 65% said they had been regularly wearing masks. Now that number is up to 85% of all U S adults. So here's what's interesting. In my curiosity is How and why did that number go from 65% to now? 85% So went from 35% of people not wearing them too. Now only 15%. My curiosity is Why It doesn't say why there was no pulling about that. So why did they do it wasn't because that they go to the grocery store. Let's say they look around and they say, Well, jeez. You know, No one else is not wearing a mask. So you know I have to wear one, too. Or maybe it's because the grocery store has somebody on the outside, which says you can't enter and just that extra barrier says most people say You know, I'm just gonna put it on to get in and get out. Even if I do or don't believe in it, is it because there's genuine fear Now, as the summer has progressed, there's more fear now of of the virus, or there's more concern over whether that person is going to be a transmitter or not. It doesn't say that. Or maybe it's that that person gets out in public and is just now being worn down. Is now being worn down by the fact that Hey, just trying to go against the grain here is now wearing me out. Whatever it is, we know that it has increased over time from now. 65% from 85% now to 65. Percent again. That study doesn't say why. But here's what's very interesting is that this comes as the number of Corona virus cases has spiked far beyond the major metro. Areas. That's all a high infection rate in fatality counts earlier in this year, some are now questioning. Wait a second. If we've now seen such a great uptick in the number of people who are wearing masks, some areas of the country saw 33% spike. And people wearing masks. Why aren't the number of positive cases? Why aren't they going down? Why's the positivity rate being Barely study. Why is it in some areas where the positive cases are actually going up? Not going down? If, because, remember they were blaming the fact that there are spikes on people who were getting together. Not social distancing, not wearing masks, yet the numbers are not going down. So if we are blaming the spikes on the people not wearing masks. Well, the people that we're not wearing them are now wearing them were frequently how can we blame any positivity rate? Any increase on those people off that number is now Going up. So the real question that we have to ask ourselves is why aren't the positive rates going down? Why don't the positive cases going down? Maybe just maybe it's because viruses run their natural course. Maybe it's because viruses seek out sick bodies or buys who are not well equipped to fend off anything, let alone Cove in 19. Maybe it's because the paper filter mask or the social distancing. Maybe it's because that's not the answer to a public health crisis where a virus is running rampant among Already sick people and I like what Joe Cross said. I can't say this, so maybe maybe he can, he says. This may be. The answer is to address the elephant in the living room, which Americans are fat, sick and nearly dead. Folks the answer to a sick population. Cannot be in outside in approach. What does that mean? It cannot be that we try to control our external environment. Manipulate our external environment. Get rid of all the different microbes that we encounter all the different viruses that we encounter right now. You and I are breathing in 1800 different Microbes Right now we encounter three million different microbes or viruses every single day. The answer cannot be limiting exposure to these things. That's impossible. It's impossible to limit exposure to our microbial world. The answer cannot just be wearing a paper filter mask, stuffing in your pocket and re wearing that in pretending that that's the answer to a sick population or disinfecting our environment. These air all outside in approach is trying to control our outside circumstances in order to Benefit the internal body. The body is innate. Lee intelligence is pre programmed to fight these things off when it's equipped with the right resource is and tools to do so. That's how we limit not just the limit our exposure, but that's how we start thinking about this very differently. When it comes to our health. You want health, strengthen your body, strengthen the host, Do the things necessary that would strengthen your internal environment. And what does that look like? Well, guys, it's simple. It's a simple Is you doing this? Eating foods that are closer to its natural state. They're more life giving nutrient dense foods. I don't even like the word nutrient density, but it's this is a way of looking at foods. That is OK. How much power is packed in this individual food group as an example, nutrient density of something like Bob Choi or Kale is Incredible these air Super foods And yet what we fitting our body's most of time. They're not super foods. These air foods that are deprived of nutrition via a deprived of nutrients and Remember this? If it's devoid of life. It's unlikely to sustain life. Going to say that again if your food is devoid of life. It's unlikely to sustain life. Getting life giving foods foods by God versus foods by man moving here body. My goodness. You look at right now. School age Children who look out in Oregon and several other states are doing this and maybe it's happening here in my own hometown. I just don't know it there doing these pods where they're literally you go into a classroom. They put up this Acrylic screen around each individual desk. The child takes their laptop out opens their laptop. They're in terrible posture. They're sitting all day long. They're no longer having recess during this pandemic. They already limited the amount of research Research Yet research too, but recess that they're having before this whole thing. And the teacher just rotates instead of the kid's rotating going in the hall and being around each other..
"co infections" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"So this co infection, the researchers say, is very rare. Why is it that it's so rare? Could it be that your body is fighting off both at once that it's smarter than what we give it credit for? Or could it be that these PCR tests that were using is detecting fragments of a virus, not necessarily the infection of the virus. By the way, did you know that that that's what's happening is that we're detecting fragments of the virus and not necessary person who's actually infected with the virus. That's different, by the way. But yes, yet they also are dealing with flu. So now you're gonna have more people who are being diagnosed as a co infection Yet their body is really just dealing with it all at once, because the body is in a highly intelligent Hey, get on. The Facebook. Facebook page facebook dot com slash asked Dr Wilson I posted about the flu shot also on YouTube. You can see the whole episode there. Hey, did you see what Just Was recently published within the last few weeks was that the adherents to the mass mandate has increased by over 20% over the summer. So this is from Pew Research. And I'll post this in the talk notes or in the comments or somewhere below where you can find this, and they are demonstrating that now 85% of Americans are now wearing face covering her masks when they go out in public. That's up by 20% looking at this research. It shows that the same questions were asked in June. In the summer, and that number was 65% said they had been regularly wearing masks. Now that number is up to 85% of all U S adults. So here's what's interesting. In my curiosity is How and why did that number go from 65% to now? 85% So went from 35% of people not wearing them too. Now only 15%. My curiosity is why Doesn't say why. There was no polling about that. So why did they do it wasn't because that they go to the grocery store. Let's say they look around and they say, Well, jeez. You know, No one else is not wearing a mask. So you know I have to wear one, too. Or maybe it's because the grocery store has somebody on the outside, which says you can't enter and just that extra barrier says most people say You know, I'm just gonna put it on to get in and get out. Even if I do or don't believe in it, is it because there's genuine fear Now, as the summer has progressed, there's more fear now of of the virus, or there's more concern over whether that person is going to be a transmitter or not. It doesn't say that. Or maybe it's that that person gets out in public and is just now being worn down. Is now being worn down by the fact that Hey, just trying to go against the grain here is now wearing me out. Whatever it is, we know that it has increased over time from now. 65% from 85%. Now the 65. Percent again. That study doesn't say why. But here's what's very interesting is that this comes as the number of Corona virus cases has spiked far beyond the major metro. Areas that saw a high infection rate in fatality counts earlier in this year. Some are now questioning. Wait a second. If we've now seen such a great uptick in the number of people who are wearing masks, some areas of the country saw 33% spike. And people wearing masks. Why aren't the number of positive cases? Why aren't they going down? Why's the positivity rate being Barely study. Why is it in some areas where the positive cases are actually going up? Not going down? If, because, remember they were blaming the fact that there are spikes on people who were getting together. Not social distancing, not wearing masks, yet the numbers are not going down. So if we are blaming the spikes on the people not wearing masks. Well, the people that we're not wearing them are now wearing them more frequently. How can we blame any positivity rate? Any increase on those people? That number is now? Going up. So the real question that we have to ask ourselves is why aren't the positive rates going down? Why don't the positive cases going down? Maybe just maybe it's because viruses run their natural course. Maybe it's because viruses seek out sick bodies or buys who are not well equipped to fend off anything, let alone Cove in 19. Maybe it's because the paper filter mask or the social distancing. Maybe it's because that's not the answer to a public health crisis where a virus is running rampant among already sick people, and I like what Joe Cross. Said. I can't say this so maybe maybe he can, he says. This may be. The answer is to address the elephant in the living room, which Americans are fat, sick and nearly dead. Folks the answer to a sick population. Cannot be in outside in approach. What does that mean? It cannot be that we try to control our external environment. Manipulate our external environment. Get rid of all the different microbes that we encounter all the different viruses that we encounter right now. You and I are breathing in 1800 different Microbes Right now we encounter three million different microbes or viruses every single day. The answer cannot be limiting exposure to these things. That's impossible. It's impossible to limit exposure to our microbial world. The answer cannot just be wearing a paper filter mask, stuffing in your pocket and re wearing that in pretending that that's the answer to a sick population or disinfecting our environment. These air all outside in approach is trying to control our outside circumstances in order to Benefit the internal body. The body is innate. Lee intelligence is pre programmed to fight these things off when it's equipped with the right resource is and tools to do so. That's how we limit not just limit our exposure, but that's how we start thinking about this very differently. When it comes to our health. You want health, strengthen your body, strengthen the host, do the things necessary that would strengthen your internal environment. And what does that look like? Well, guys, it's simple. It's a simple as you doing this getting foods that are closer to its natural state. They're more life giving nutrient dense foods. I don't even like the word nutrient density, but it's this is a way of looking at foods. That is OK. How much power is packed in this individual food group as an example nutrient density of something like Bob Choi or Kale? Is incredible. These air Super foods and yet what we fitting our body's most of time. They're not super foods. These air foods that are deprived of nutrition via deprived of nutrients and Remember this? If it's devoid of life. It's unlikely to sustain life. I'm going to say that again if your food is devoid of life. It's unlikely to sustain life. Getting life giving foods foods by God versus foods by man moving here body. My goodness. You look at right now. School age Children who look out in Oregon and several other states are doing this and maybe it's happening here in my own hometown. I just don't know it. They're doing these pods where their little you go into a classroom. They put up this acrylic screen around each individual desk. The child takes their laptop out opens their laptop. They're in terrible posture. They're sitting all day long. They're no longer having recess during this pandemic. They already limited the amount of research. Research research, too, but recess that they're having before this whole thing. And the teacher just rotates instead of the kid's rotating going in the hall and being around each other..
Jordan Younger Albrecht On Eating Vegan Again
"Coming up on the ultimate health podcast. I. Believe that we those of us who got sick with chronic illness is because we are being called to wake up deeper being called to wake up to who we are in our heart, our soul, our spirit, and maybe somewhere along the way we got out of alignment with what we came here to do not. Okay. That's part of the human journey. So finding the modality that helps us, he'll and helps us reel line with who we are i. that's what it's all about. Hello and welcome see autumn it all podcast episode three, hundred, Sixty, eight, I'm Jesse Chapas and I'm here to take your health the next level each week, bring you inspiring and informative conversations about health and wellness covering topics of nutrition lifestyle fitness mindset in so much more. In this week, Jordan younger all practice back on the show. She's the blogger behind the top red spirituality and wellness plugged the balanced blonde. She covers all things wellness high vibration living the plant based lifestyle healing from chronic illness tapping into your creativity in psychic nature and so much more beyond the blog. She is the Creator and host of the top podcast. So on fire where she goes deep on a range of topics from nutrition to aliens entrepreneurship to medium ship, and it's been about three years since Jordan? Has Been on the show and a ton has happened in her life. Last time she was on the show we were discussing her book breaking Vegan. So she went from Vegan to no longer Vegan, and since she was on the show, she has now Vegan again and we get into that she's had a wedding she was diagnosed with lyme disease and so much more. We had time to catch up on and just really appreciate Jordan's Rawness surrealness and the depth she goes into sharing her story on today show. Some of the highlights, include her soul searching trip to Bali where she hit rock bottom the overwhelming truth about lyme disease in co-infections microdosing suicide been for chronic pain how psychedelics have helped. Jordan the most healing journey and how water fasting cleanses the body. I really enjoyed this conversation and I know you will too and I'd appreciate if you could help spread the word share this with somebody in your life, a friend, a family member there is so much great information and inspiration here spread the good word. Thank you so much here I go with Jordan Younger Albrecht. Jordan welcome back to the podcast how you doing had. Jesse. Thank you so much for having me back. I'm doing really well, I'm excited to talk to you today I'm excited to chat with you too. It's I went and looked back at our previous episode. We did with Marnie there and it's been years. So a long time and a lot has happened in both our world. So back when we did that last episode, you weren't married now you're married, you've had a new diagnosis lyme disease and you're back on the Vegan Diet. So lots we can get into. Yeah. Life has changed a lot. I remember recording that with you. Guys in my old apartment where I lived alone with my cat and life has certainly changed quite a bit since then we'll at that time we did that recording it seem like your health was in a pretty good place for a timeline point here let's let's talk about where your health was at at that time. Yeah. So I may have thought my health was maybe in a good place, but it was around that time. I'm trying to think around three years ago. Exactly is when my health started to decline and really take Depp I think when we talked may have been maybe the very end of me feeling pretty good and. Then I started to experience different symptoms like full body hives I had a uterine cyber ahead which I ended up having surgically removed. I started to be very chronically fatigued, but I do believe when we last spoke I was still holding onto the final shreds of feeling good or saw it and then yeah things kind of exploded from there. So toward the end of twenty, what would this have been twenty would have been twenty seventeen that we chatted. Yeah. Toward the middle to the end of twenty seventeen is when these health issues started popping up and I was very confused about all ams and what was going on and. At the time it didn't even cross my mind that all of these health issues could be intertwined and could have the same root cause thought my entire body was just breaking down bit by bit and piece by piece, and ultimately what I finally did realize the following year that this was all the same root cause similar root cause and I was diagnosed with lyme disease then I realized okay. The hives, the fatigue, the brain fog lack of energy. The fiber that I had hormone imbalances got issues. All of this could be drawn back to lyme disease switch ended up being a chronic lyme disease diagnosis meaning that I had had my. For, at least a year. But when I look back on my life, it seems that I actually had lyme for more like both likely a decade dot was a pretty wild time in my life and I'm sure we'll get into all the details, but I've been treated for the last two and a half years and it's been quite a journey. So after we talked and the symptoms started to creep up on you what was. The first step you did before getting diagnosed, did you were you already seeing a doctor at that time that you brought these issues up to or did you find a new doctor? What did the path look like to getting that diagnosis? So I was seeing a few different doctors at that time I've always geared toward a more holistic approach. So I was seeing a functional medicine doctor which really combines Western and eastern medicine practices. I went to my functional medicine doctor and he really didn't know what was going on. He saw the hives that I had all over my body which were so itchy. So terrible. So read they lasted for ten months and during that time I couldn't even sleep at night because I was so itchy I was in so much pain. It covered every single inch of my body except for my face. And my feet actually it was on my face to just not as bad as the rest of my body
Coronavirus Infections Are On The Rise In 20 U.S. States
"S. twenty condom twenty U. S. states are experiencing rising rates of the new coronavirus infections while the number of infected have crested over the two million mark now so let's check in with Michael right now to find out more about these numbers one of Michael yeah good morning Robert looked into it the fact that like today is supposed to be the beginning in Los Angeles county of a reintroduction to film and TV production and that's coming as Los Angeles county is reporting its highest single day total of new cases of corona virus since the outbreak began and ironically while production allowed to restart the promised protocol from the country's industry task force are nowhere to be seen and health officials are saying that the president we are testing less than one half of what we need to be tested for co infection in this country and that's all scary because that's bringing now a total of almost half of our country twenty U. S. states today are expecting and are experiencing rising rates of new coronavirus infections in there including states like California Texas Florida North Carolina Arizona Tennessee there are so many of them like a rolled through the whole list of the point here is that you're seeing a large number growing in the state of Texas which was among one of the first states to restart the opening process has set new records for covert nineteen hospitalizations on three consecutive days this week with over two thousand patients hospitalized on Wednesday alone and that is because the CDC to remind everybody inputs and dire warnings out there about these infection numbers saying listen here in the United States the numbers for infections are increasing by thirty six percent per day you compare that with other countries in places like the UK Italy and Spain they are declining infection rates only Russia Peru in India's inspection numbers are growing and even that is less than five percent for each of those countries so we're seven times worse than those other countries when it comes to doing our social distancing wearing our masks washing our hands there seems to be this mind frame that if the door is open or would be would be re opening process has begun everybody's things it's a free for all when the reality is this is not a call it had to be got on your ankle in college but you can just not look at it pretend it's not there this is a virus that is continuing to grow it is continuing to
"co infections" Discussed on Lyme Ninja Radio - Lyme Disease
"I exhausted trying to keep up with it Jax. Certainly we're in Red Hook New York so a small small areas re difficult to To get lost their. That's so true. Thank you so much. It's been pleasure and I have to come back and visit you. Come down to you guys now that I know you. It's definitely excuse to once. This whole thing is blown over and we're allowed to travel again so you've got it all right. Thank you so much for having me crazy. Care right higher right that she is a wealth of Information. That was absolutely incredible. So much has changed. Remember some of our convert. Remember talking with Dr Horowitz Way back then right interview and some things have changed so much in the past couple of years so I know it doesn't make any lime any easier to treat. But just the volume of information the number of patients under treatment with credible people and people who understand understand the disease understand physiology who don't just have one picture and are beginning to synthesize it. She talked about silos to kind of break apart. The silos is so going to consider it even like even long term treatments. Yes really important all right. Thank you all for joining us. Thank you for being here. Appreciated and as you longtime lyman. Just know this podcast would not be complete unless we left you with the Lime Ninja effect of the day. Did you know Ninjas can make.
"co infections" Discussed on Lyme Ninja Radio - Lyme Disease
"And then and now but within there are things that are still a question. But there's a ton of data so things like ozone You know that's something. A used quite frequently with a lot of my kids and there's a great deal of data and But but then you know you're always evaluating risks and benefits of everything you do so you know it's things you just kind of hacked to you have to go forward in a smart way and Try to determine all the potential risks and benefits than side effects and have that You know open discussion with your your patience. You full transparency and many of them are willing to go and give it a try and some are not and we don't push the the issue any further but it's it is is you know it's tricky sometimes kind of being on the fringe of you as you've said because we're kind of pioneering a lot of these treatments and And and they're not necessarily foreign It's just they haven't been used in this way for this type of disease process or illness process per se. So can you. Can you help me with ozone treatment? Because I get stuck. I had this explained to me recently. And my brain could hold the information for about thirty seconds and then snap back to its original so ozone is a very very reactive chemical right reacts with everything how come it doesn't do more damage in the we'll any human being. It's very different so it isn't ozone in the ozone layer. There's a big Hole Yada Yada so in the body it's almost more like A modulator. So it is really functioning more on Canadian in the body so yes it so three yes. It's the reactive serious. It can technically cause inflammation can also call down So to there to balance which is fascinating you know and I either I've certified in it. I've gone through. All of the classes have had explained. Say yes I understand that but I still always of course how the heck does it do it but really it? It's it's working on H in the body and that makes sense to me. Well if it's imbalanced it's GonNa help to kind of potentially eight what it needs to calm down the other. Yeah so can't so everybody. Forgive us for a second but I have to get a little bit Geeky here. Any particular part is part of the creation. Pathway that or just the balance between an Ph and all of the four little variations of that seems to be. My understanding is is part of the balance of it. Yeah primarily my understanding is that It can also sort of ignite that process as well so people do have a slate inflammatory response. Initially as we're arriving revving up that treatment on but You know it primarily. Is there to kind of temper some of those those responses as well okay? So let's open this up to are the people of are watching us and there are. Some questions are ready and let me just sort through them and see what we find and we'll just go a few more minutes here dude to do so. Actually a lot of these are kind of comments about some of the big picture stuff that we talked about. Oh let's start here. Julie Talks about Bartonella being confused with autism. Oh absolutely absolutely You know there are some very controversial studies. Bubbling Him Bruin. That are linking kids who who have been diagnosed with autism as actually having underline infections Bartonella and other co-infections And I could totally agree with that You know from what I've seen clinically as well Some of those similar symptoms that we see with Bartonella from the kind of The OCD the The mood component that this regulation. I'm very similar to a child who who has been diagnosed with autism. Ism so good connection there then also comes to mind of course just kind of the rampant especially with the high-achieving crowd and the college dropout is just the the anxiety and the level of any depressant and endings drugs that are prescribed. I mean we're we're up here near a college in. The numbers are stonning about the percentage of those young people rural meds on segments. Yeah the there was a study by Dr Greenberg She's an adolescent psychiatrist. I'm and she did it was a small study was about fourteen fifteen kids and essentially they were all diagnosed with forms of With bipolar or other Kind of a mood or psychiatric disorders and were not as responsive to medications and out of the fourteen All of them had some sort of a CO infection underlying in only one of them actually had physical symptoms of like joint pain said t but it was all neurological. It was all behavioral. So you know I I really feel that An brands field was the one who was looking into sort of the studies with autism and linked with one co passion and But you know I I find that many many children or I feel that. Many children are misdiagnosed with mental health issues and clearly. It's some sort of an underlying infection of sorts be ticker or or tick-borne co-infections and then you know the side effects neurological side effects of that does versus it. Being a true you know a neurotransmitter issue. It's typically inflammatory related bugs lying it all right right so this is interesting because this actually popped in my mind to so many adults right. Many patients needs to start off with tiny tiny doses and children even smaller and they're not just little adults their children there like you mentioned with the blood brain barrier their their chemistry biology is different. Factual how how small to start with children on dosage well. Dosage is based on milligram per kilogram. So it's it's always been So we never. It's never one-size-fits-all And based upon the history That I get from the parents sort of like well. How does your kid react to? If you give him Motrin tylenol. Do they super sleepy with it? You know so. I asked about certain things with dietary and medications and supplements that they've given their children in the past just to get a good sense of You know their their level of sensitivity. So there's the standard milligram per kilogram does and if their child seems super sensitive to certain things or has a ton of allergies and seems like they have inflammatory process like a mask or something else on. We'll start you know a quarter of that does and then I'll work my way up so it can take weeks sometimes even months to get them to a full dose where therapeutic And then there are some times even where I have to forego treatment together and just calm down the inflammation just enough to keep them from reacting so severely that they don't tolerate the regiment And that's typically with medications Where I will definitely switch gears to Erbil control a drop at a time and not worry so much about you know worrying about reaching that level of the negation. Where it's therapeutic. Were herbals our little little more forgiving this so you can put a drop in a glass of water in Asian right. Yeah exactly exactly okay. This is technical question. I have no idea but okay. We're on therapy. Does it have to be ten pass? Or what is the most effective method? It doesn't have to be ten. Pass it I find. The most effective is may eight therapy. Which is major auto? Therapy is the safest So ten passages running back and forth multiple times so in theory. You're kind of getting a higher dose. I'm wearing my h is using a slightly is using a larger volume. So it Kinda works out to be the same I find clinically But I do find that it needs to be You know that direct blood exchange to really you know. Get the effect that you're looking for There's other other forms of of Ozone and it's either natick water and drinking water. Some people will do. It's Kinda smells like swamp water. You know it's delightful An job or know. Minor injections. You're taking sort of flake Fic SYRINGE injecting after you've next the ozone with your blood and you're almost like your auto vaccinating And then there erectile Ozone's That you can do which can actually cause a lot of inflammation with some people if you're not careful So I do find that either ten pass or a each therapy depending upon what you tolerate on seems to be the most effective. And do you think that lyman confections will ever be given an upper credibility that it becomes a check box on the diagnostic sheet? So it's insurance will cover more reliable tests. Oh I hope so I can only hope and I think that was long as they are of the squeaky wheel so to speak like us out there And you know the more and more. We recruit other people to advocate in the more data. We put out. They are now and we just need a better test jails I had. I had a patient while back. He was a very well respected. Pediatric Surgeon Orthopedic Surgeon and he took on the toughest cases in the country. Right and he had lyme disease right so he set up a meeting with me and this other head of orthopedic and basically his message was look some of these kind of nonspecific orthopedic problems you see coming in. Could be lyme disease you know. Are you willing you know? What can we do about this? You have this long conversation in a restaurant and basically at the end of it the the head of the PD clinics okay. So we don't have a good test for this and we don't have a good treatment for this and you want me to do what again and this was somebody who is open minded right just like we just need a little bit even though the genetics is a great test. But it's true. It's not foolproof and it takes awhile and it caused a bit of money right now right. There's there's there's that issue with even though at some of it's starting to be covered a little bit more regularly but to do a whole tick-borne panel at this point. Oh it's right the end to justify that right and it's it's different working in a in a in a clinic like you do where the conversations with the patient. Is You afford this but trying to justify that to it insurance companies a whole nother ball of wax? Because again we're talking about the top down expert saying what are you doing that for right exactly? I always joke and say Sort of tongue in cheek that it's GonNa take you know one of I are really really important person to contract the disease sort of to God forbid anyone has Wish when but it's GonNa take something like that that big And or you know some of those the heads of some of those big organizations in Higher Yeah whatever happened. I'm not advocating anyone you know. Give some action on. No no no no no but it. It's gotta be something you know that that big the for that to happen but we'll just keep plugging along and keep pushing. That's what we do ask again. How how long have you been with Dr? Back AGAIN THAT FOR YEARS. So really you kind of came on as things were. You're one of the people who shifted this. You're you're on. That wave where things really went from way out in the wilderness to now just kind of like an outpost out or something. It's not you still have to look for diagnosis. You still have to look for an MD. But it's not like you have to go looking under rocks. I mean you guys were hiding before you had to hide before and it's not that bad anymore. It's not by any stretch nation. But it's not terrible and it still. There's a lot of work done. That's not what I'm saying but it will be a lot worse alright. A thank you so much. I'll let you get back to Noah right. Yes yes and the rest of your family. Thank you for giving up part of your evening it so important and want to leave you with the last word. Tell people how they can get in touch with you. Dr Box Clinic Your Clinic. I should say as part of the right Well there you can follow us on facebook. Tag Bach I also have a blog at summer. Dawson Dot Com and then we have an instagram account. That is in NY limes and so send that to you so So we're we're online..
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"All those things add in But that blood brain barrier is more vulnerable so than you gat inflammatory response. Those you know auto. Antibodies Crossover and you get inflammation You know there are a couple of colleagues who Who actually focused their efforts on net. You know Dr Fallon is big into the logical component and looking at line neuro line There were some studies and I'll have to find them where they were performing expect. Scans on these kids and saying that sort of quotable subcortical areas of the brain were lining up. They were inflamed so You know the problem with the neurological component is that Which we refer to. As more like an autoimmune seth allopathy kind of comes and goes versus lake in acute meningitis. I'm in the hospital on the antibiotic but it comes with your daughter. The headaches sometimes with the you know the mood search Changes in the concentration issues in the sleep issues and it kind of comes and goes And it's very difficult to unless you're in kind of this area of practice. I think it's difficult for providers especially if they're taking their kids to urgent care to really connect the dots and say. Oh well maybe they're just making this up you know. Maybe they're just looking for attention or maybe just a viral thing it'll pass. That's what I hear often. And these are well intentioned providers they just you know. I just don't think that they know excel. Yeah let's let's pause there 'cause you hit on maybe the most important issue that were struggling with right now so when I got started doing this podcast. Whatever was five and a half years ago. The main issue was just awareness in general right and now the witnesses out there. It's not in a lime disease. Is this exciting thing that just as in the Hudson Valley is really you know people have the sense that it's all over the place and for the most I hear story after story of diagnoses happening like say over the backyard fence. So somebody somebody'll mention in passing. We just had a young man on here who who wrote a book and his diagnosis started from. He was getting some scan for something. The nurse said offhandedly or the person the tech transporting and said. Oh that sounds like lyme disease and that was it right so he started his journey to look into it. Insure enough years later after that or six months or whatever EXC so how do how do we get physicians? Where of this? Because you have one message coming down from on top here. I gotta go into the screen here. Why am I said? We've got reality underneath right right again. Physicians are maxed out. They're not trying to bad job. They're trying to filter and good information bad information and just I mean just what's happened with covert now now. Everybody is at home broadcasting. Something on soon right right right now to the. Mount of information is literally overwhelming. And some of these people credential to. It's not like I'm just a guy with a you know who sticks needles and people it's been talking to people with lime disease but there's some fairly well credentialled people out there creating content. So who'd who do you listen to how to get that information out? Yeah I you know. I don't think there's an easy answer to it. I mean I think that it. You know I I find day that MEDICINE IS SO INCREDIBLY SILO. D- And that they are governing bodies per specialty in they're just not talking And because they're not talking or not connecting those symptoms You know I think that it really has to come from the top You know we have those too big organizations on both sides of the fence with with lime end until they can come to some sort of a you know a collaborative agreement. I don't know so. Let's kidnap them. Take me to a cabin somewhere in the around docks. Lock them inside. It's kind of like. How did you choose a pope right and just keep them in there and then thinking the white smoke comes out? We'll we'll all be good exactly Well no Horowitz. Has this dream in. And he's been working on starting a curriculum in a medical school and I thought that was ambitious wonderful. I haven't heard any update recently. But that's you know something like that is a start. But that's still you know. Even if he does that there's still you're not. You're not the expert right. You're not the doctor now. She had the lime disease world that unfortunately or fortunately depending you said that carries a ton of way as my daughter who was on the screen earlier. She's doing nutrition course at Cornell and and so one of the things they teach and this actually drives me nuts. Because I'm I'm I'm out in the French but they teach them that one of the things you have to look at it. Looking at research is is the is the author and the institutions. Coming out of credible right. So that's one of the thanks. So so who who? Credible you know all kinds of funny story. I was just reading a paper. Owed peroxy nitrite struggled all weekend reading this chemical right anyway. Brutal and it was out of a small university in Paraguay. And it's this wonderful summation of all the recent research up to like three years ago and it was a great introduction to me. I'm not gonNA throw that away because not everything's documented checked out onto the studies that they had to. It's like they're making stuff up but you know that's not somebody somebody who turned two. Yeah let's go check out. See what the University of Paraguay is doing. You know on the proxy nitrate research like now. We're GONNA move that aside and I'm going to listen to anyway I'm just I'm on a soapbox. Give me off my soapbox shop. Good all right. So it's it's I mean that's what scientists about not about who's who's got the fanciest cap and gown but you know the best bumper stickers like who's who produces the results and that and the history. I'm back on my soapbox. I can't help the history over and over and over again points to the people on the fringe making the breakthroughs. I mean go back to two Berkey losses handwashing for goodness sakes all the experts. Say What are you doing washing your hands? You're an idiot guy. The guy ends up similize ends up in an insane asylum right and lost his life. He lost his mind. He lost his fortune because he wanted people wash their hands. And now that's all we hear twenty four hours a day. It's wash hands. Wash your hands. But at the experts told he was nuts. And that's not that long ago. Yeah that's almost five hundred years ago. That's only what hundred and fifty two hundred years ago. Well I mean I always lived by the you know the saying that you know people will always reject the unfamiliar an and eventually it will eventually evolve. Hopefully I have to be optimistic and an assume that there has to be you know a breaking point where we surmount this great deal of data should appoint the the it's undeniable. But you know that's my and has it of spin. Hopefully so that brings up another very interesting question. I'll try to ask it into and be quiet is how'd you because I know down there you guys are doing all kinds of very very interesting interventions and treatments. Now you decide whether to bring something in because there's not what you're doing there's not a whole lot. There's maybe some clinical validation here but lane. Well it's the first question is is that we always ask is you know will is will issue harm if we gifts if we try this. Are we really going to create more harm than good with those patients In we do our due diligence and and look at clinical studies and look at the science behind it And am very slow to bring on Some of the Treatments that we do with the children until we've kind of use it on the adults. I saw the my colleague. Dr Machen McKee at work.
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"Go my gosh now in thinking but why why not. So you know that. Just kind of let me down that pathway. Just asking those. Why questions and Eventually transitioned from those hardcore. Icu's in adrenaline driven kind of places to more of that Primary Care. Let me see a healthy child. Looks like I may want to have them one day. You know it'd be good to now. And and that discontinued that PAT. So it's Kinda funny where started off And where I've ended out never thinking that I would be more. You know out in the primary world in certainly not an integrative hair whatsoever But it was you know saying You know I guess just having an open mind and saying there has to be a better way and those were the questions I asked myself constantly and Primary Care led to an integrative practice which stand led to Joining up with Dr Back about four years ago And it was just that every Volvo the primary practice we started to see a large percentage of kids with lime at the time and again I didn't really know just kind of follow protocols. We'll let me tree the way you're supposed to write based on. Cdc's dislike a pretty fairly novice provider would do and then I would kind of see the sort of quality that in these sort of side effects that were of lasting in they weren't necessarily severe. It's almost like that kind of frog in the warm water. Heat it up and so it. It wasn't that evident at the time But then I would start. Making other connections in things of this chronic These chronic illnesses with these kids. Just you know more behavioral related and more More infections would would occur after the line like they've had a really big uptick. I can't explain And then that led me to more integrative medicine to say all right. Let's look at this differently because antibiotics aren't going to do it alone. You know so. I WANNA make that clear. Yes we do. Use them but But then you know those you know. Further investigating led me to Integrative Med and then specializing in what I do now with children And it was interesting when I Eventually connected with Dr Horowitz. One of the first things he said to me he's like you know you really need to come and train with me because you are essentially one of the only pediatric line providers in this area. You've got to do this. And the gravity of the you know so so that was sort of my calling at that moment you know and it has been ever since so majorities river. We'll see what happens now. It never so funny story is when I started acupuncture training a hundred years ago we did classes not by when you graduated by when you started studying and their specific reason for doing that was. You're just starting now and you'll never stop so. Don't you know you basically we're go to graduate you so you don't hurt anybody so you'd better figure out the rest as you go along and so anybody worth their salt is still learning. I mean it's it's sad when you see a physician burnout where they just can no longer take a new information. They're just holding on with their fingernails for dear life and you know some take a six months off for a year off. It's it's a brutal world out there so we're we're happy. We are happy to have you. There is an I always blank on her name up in Albany area. Who's the other lime pediatric physician? Okay I'll get her name. Is You bet you guys you guys? Lee should know each other because there are. You guys are rarer than Hen's teeth really defined an MD but perhaps is is really tough and so. Let's I do want to ask you first. Before we get into the pediatric side of things about co-infections. I think in very even from season to season but definitely regionally. What are you seeing? And you're down. You're downstate compared to me. I know you call upstate from New York City but from right down here the Hudson Valley about halfway up in between you're sitting in Albany though what. What do you see down there terms co-infections In addition to line icy agreed deal of Allah and probably closely followed with BBC. So if I were to put them in order. Line Bartonella. Abc RECAP SHIA so but huge cases of Bartonella primarily clinical nature. And what happens is you start to treat it. It's such a slow growing small bug. It's hard to capture. But you see dry. You see the neurological changes in the nightmares. In the neuropathy that can't be explained in you know they come to practitioners like you or they go see their chiropractors. And they're coming at dairy and gluten in their rheumatologist of the sun in pain. Yeah so you know so we So so a great deal of that and then I find that after we start treating Kind of temper. The the low bid and kind of help the immune system. See what it needs to see. That tighter will pop up much later after even after the patient starts to feel better And so it's it's a great the alarm youngest by. That's Noah year old. Yes he keeps me on my toes. you know it takes a great deal of effort to convince the patients to say? Just trust me. This is here. I promise sale. Yeah then how long do you find it takes for the the you said for the for the test to show positive do you? And do you keep on testing just to kind of prove your point or do just they say trust me. Is that enough? We're just GONNA treat it and see the clinical improvements. The person So routinely. I'm I will test about every six weeks so I tried to the patients through initially I like to take the patients through a treatment cycle knowing most critters about thirty days. Were Sal right so I'm looking for proliferation And many times even treating every six weeks. I'm not necessarily. Trench changed the treatment at the moment. But I'm just seeing what shifts I'm what what ships occur And when I test it's never it's never myopic. Approach it is lime and Co infections. Because there's sort of the shape shift way of these little bugs and and you know the immune system. I joke around a lot of patients and say you know not to offend you a psychic dude. It's it's not really great at multitasking. It can only focus on maybe one or two things at a time. If we get a handle on that you may see other things kind of bubble up that have always been there So not to offend you know we. We women think we can multitasking. We really can't but we still haven't figured that out yet Five for searching for another yes so to totally interrupt you here so when my my female patients come in at a certain age and things begin to change again. I at some point usually after they've kind of gotten over the shock I say and now you know what your husband goes through Estrogen Trajan estrogens like the super mental drug. And you guys can remember everything. Think of a million things die right and and we are one thing at a time in front of me. Don't don't talk to me while I'm looking at something else out the so not offended talk about biological reality here absolutely gently. We have to make light of this serious now. My Wife's did that actually. Today I was watching a youtube video. I got sucked in and she says I'm making Turkey soup for you. You come here and I want you to look at the Turkey soup so know this. Is your Turkey soup the saying okay? I got it and I'm trying not to be offended. Invented which he was doing that but but if she hadn't done that I probably would you know. Where's that to Turkey soup that you remember it? Anyway we were talking about uh confections and particularly Nella right and I so my youngest daughter. I'm pretty sure has Bartonella and had some bizarre things throughout her life. Just kind of show up and she does have the this. The stretch marks right for a young woman is like you. Especially when she started showing up in she was all of what you know seventeenth. Eighteenth like what are you doing? Stretch marks right. You're a little young for that. And that's kind of new a whole lot about Bartonella but one of the strangest things she had happened was she had. And this is four years ago kind of this on diagnosed undefined meningitis. A episode that lasted basically two two or three E. R. VENTS. Over weeks time and the last one we kind of brought her back home and she was at home when it happened and it was. It was one of the worst nights I mean. She was absolutely incredible. Amounts of pain. you know the doctor lead. You started out thinking well. It's probably just the migraine. But you know the the the staff and it came back he said. I don't know what this is. There's something normal here just going to give it some undefined. Minute JED HIS DIAGNOSIS. You very sympathetic but didn't have a lot want to give up. You know so. It's crazy so her. I was were acute headaches right and to see somebody in that much pain you know they. They basically lose their mind as well but it. But it's funny how these diseases affect children differently right and so and you began to mention the psychiatric side of things and so what what what are some of the signs that a child is has it infection and I'll even I'm going to toss mold in there. Let's just toss molden for fun because you know they fire the same pathways right absolutely absolutely will typically when a child presents You know were always looking at milestones in trying to determine you know through history. Is this something organic? Just sorting starting to emerge as they're growing especially if they're hitting puberty in. Oh have in any kind of really have to trace it back to say. Have you noticed the soft signs if you really look back? Hindsight's twenty twenty. Yeah because again. We're not dealing with an adult who had seemed to root out the kid who still by so you kind of have to keep that in mind But what I find is that typically these children have absolutely no neurological history whatsoever and then all of a sudden almost like flipping a switch. You end up with kids who are highly anxious or developed severe. Ocd PATTERNS And it can be something. That isn't quite impacting their daily life. Yet from you know other little GERMOPHOBIC to wash your hands fifteen times a day to having to you know tap the threshold before they could walk through it kind of things that can be quite impeding getting their abilities to just live life. Severe outbursts major concentration issues Even you know. Some pretty significant depression can be involved with it An overall personality changes a lot of the An initial symptoms that all notices that apparent will say while I really started noticing that they weren't sleeping. Well they were waking up with kind of like a night terror as if they were You know a toddler again And didn't progress to they just couldn't focus in school and they would just have outbursts but we just thought it was related to their bill. That maybe something hard in a difficult for them to comprehend or different difficult subjects in school and they just couldn't grasp it And then you start digging more and more and you say well you know. There are some pretty significant Neurological changes so in addition to things like the headache and fatigue which could be a thousand things I mean really And you know You know the general pain and muscle twitch that that you can sometimes see which again could be many things. It's all that inflammatory component. So where you'd see. Children are different from adults blood brain barrier. It isn't quite. He'll sealed tightly as as it is an adults So children are and meaning in my my description of children. Zero to twenty two essentially. Is that our kids are quicker to develop more of an auto antibody response If the cards lineup right the underlying snips other environmental exposures Yada Health of the GUT..
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"Five two harbors Minnesota number four boo in Chile number three Ashbourne Virginia number to Paris France and number one Santiago Chile. That's awesome. I'm very excited that this this week. We have two cities from Chile. Were spreading in that country. Apparently contagious yes. Santiago was apparently the vector. Wow we're all experts in public. Ms and and summer has just joined us so summer. We're going to bring you on screen in just a moment. So hang on excellent perfect timing actually. So why? Don't you give us a little bit more information about summer sure? The summer is a veteran certified pediatric nurse Practitioner. In our and memorable eyelids some are trained in some of the top pediatric hospitals in the country including the children's Hospital Philadelphia. A children's of Dallas Texas Penn State Children's and Hershey Pennsylvania and most recently Levine Children's Hospital in Charlotte North Carolina. She completed a lime disease. Internship with Richard Horowitz. She currently works with Kevin Bach in expert in autism and pans. Pandas and some are specializes in the treatment of autoimmune neuro inflammatory conditions lime and other tick borne illnesses and mycotoxin. Taco's or mold exposures. She works with Dr Bach as a pediatric climb specialist medical writer Slash Blogger and a consultant to other health care providers that was excellently read. Thanks we'll bring back a little bit in the meantime say goodbye and summer. Say Hello Hello. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited you're here. You really have no idea how excited I am that you're I'm excited. I can log on. Exactly what whenever whenever we cut things close. It's always a bit of a whole breath in hope things go. Let's just say hello to Cathy here. Hello Kathy Roy. Gave us your background kind of the back of the book? When you write your book that'll be on the back of your book. But what but what I want to know is why why pediatrics interesting. It's always been pediatrics. It has been An and I blame it on a rather aggressive instructor way back in the day Who I on. On the adults of one of the adult units we were Going THROUGH OUR CLINICAL BROWNS. And she kind of made me do something that you'd want to and did prepare me for it so I said No. That's it paediatrics. It is so it was where defiant move at that moment and then moving on when I did actually trained in pediatrics So I just want to know what you don't want to do as right right. And then how? And then the Segue to Dr. Balk had lyme disease. That was an interesting path And the the intro with the bio always sounds a little pompous when I hear it in current but there's a reason just to say you know I started off in a very non. Integrative non-primary world it was always very Mainstream follow protocols pediatric. Icu sick of the sickest and for a while there. I didn't know what healthy child was supposed to look like in act like An just kind of As as I evolved as we all do you start to question what you're doing why you're doing it And you know as I sort of You know some of the ongoing issues that we saw in the ICU would kind of throw things out there to say. Hey why don't we try this and it may have been something. Integrative like let's give them a probiotic. I get the stairs like had three heads you know..
"co infections" Discussed on Lyme Ninja Radio - Lyme Disease
"Healing from lyme disease isn't about doing a million different things it's about finding the few things that work and then sticking with it since two thousand fifteen McKay Ricky has been encouraging folks to never give up. Lime disease causes all kinds of problems and focusing only on killing bugs leads to diminishing returns. That's why generic cookie cutter treatments don't work. You need to fight lyme like a Ninja if that sounds like a plan keep listening and if you want to know more visit us at Lime Ninja radio DOT com. Here's your host McKay Ricky. Hello Hello Hello. It's Tuesday evening and it must be time for the lime radio. Show Woo Hoo. Let's just take a moment of commiseration for upstate? New York because it is snowing on May twelfth as looked out the window. It's actually snowing. It's job yes yet. It sounded accumulating a little bit so so a moment of silence for upstate New York and Dr Phil Spring Quote Unquote April is. The cruellest month said the poets. But apparently may is also anyway. We're happy you're here. It makes our snowy may twelfth so much better to spend some time with you. We our guest today as summer..
"co infections" Discussed on The Toxin Terminator
"What if that could be my equation and in that moment I decided that if it was an all within my power I was going to take this overwhelming paint and turn it into something good turn it into overwhelming power and the reason I bring this up is the fact that mindset is a huge part of something that we we got rid of the bad when we brought in the good and Texas city that I don't think talked about often enough especially in the chronic illness community. The the doctors got love. You know they're wonderful but they've got their diagnosis code. They've got their pill or if moral ternate minded maybe it's acupuncture or an herb or whatever and that's all wonderful but if we don't have our minds under control it's GonNa be really hard to win any kind of a battle. It just is right. I think I shared with the earlier. I was actually interviewed by a nurse out just about a year ago. His pretty well known and he said I can guarantee you had you not had that mindset. At that moment you wouldn't have survived and I do believe that's true. The way my labs looked a cold could have killed me. Yep there's a story if you don't mind me sharing just super super quick because it encapsulates the mindset of things is and I. I don't know all the details behind the story but basically what happened is this gentleman was locked in a trailer and he for however was told our felt that it was like a freezer box and he froze to death and when he was found it was a trailer not a freezer box. There was nothing his mind was telling them that he was freezing to death but he was not and he froze to death. Yeah is that crazy? You're up so this is how powerful our mind is. It's huge and I remember thinking. Okay how am I going to practically do this right tonight? Always wanted to do in. Hadn't really ever done. It was write a book and so I said Okay during this time. I'm going to write a book on stress and I titled it the art of worry because we're all actually master meditators. We either meditate on the positive Tate on the negative and meditating on the negative worry. That's all it is and we're really good at that. So it's about retraining. Our mind retraining. Our Spirit our soul to get into the habits of instead of worrying saying okay. How can we turn this around? How can we find the positive? And this is not about being a pollyanna. We can be a very real about it. You know if you look at brain homes King David would lament these horrible things that had truly happened to him but one of the things I always loved in one of the concepts I teach. In revolutionary. Joy is complained like a king. You can complain and talk about whatever you want. Our only rule is this at the end of the complaint. You have to find a way that we can find joy or something positive that can come out of this moment right because we not be stuck left focusing on the negative or get in this really nasty move and that to me is probably the worst possible toxin we get ever encounter. Oh absolutely I'm so so glad that you're talking about this and I think it boils down. I mean what people are. If you're listening to libby story right now you're forgetting. She's got four children that she has caretaking through this whole process. And while you're sick and healing they are sick right. Yes our sixteen year old at that time was about twelve and yes she had lime in co-infections during that time in Mono And our daughter was really sick. She kept getting fevers as school. Couldn't figure out why I had sent her to school as read my plan to take care of myself. And they kept sending her home ended up she had a gluten sensitivity online and he was getting Over lunch I didn't realize it. So yeah so yes it was in. I remember my daughter. She was little. She was first grade. Second Grade Shoot. Just sit and cry. I determined that I would if even crawl to their room. Every night I would pretty much lost. The use of the left side of my body couldn't anything from the waist down was cane crutches if I could walk at all and in left handed south but I remember saying I will take kids in every night and I will play the piano or singer. Do something to just help them know. It's going to be okay. I need to make sure their mindset is okay fine we're GONNA make this number talking with Anna and I would say Anna in. This is all over. She loved Front We're going to go five together. And she looked at me and say you can't even walk. What are you talking about? It doesn't matter to just put it in your mind so I had her train for a whole year and at the very end of my treatment as well enough talk I was able to walk the Five K. My best friend Inside me as well as my mother-in-law and it was just such a beautiful moment of okay. We've made it through this way to make it to everything. I'm not wave the victory flag that everything is perfect in my life but I've made it to this milestone and I'm going to celebrate it and we have great pictures of US may best friend even got me a medal to wear a so-so blood incredible story and I think this really ties into your revolutionary joy. I mean just even the title itself is. Do you have stories that you can share? I mean not you know names or anything like that but I think when people realize the mindset you know what that's like when you see that light switch click for them. Yes I remember. One time is someone who had a really rough childhood in it was actually a toward the end of the program as she says to me. You know this at work that we've done along with the other things that we focused on has been more effective than thirty years of counseling in therapy. It has what I try to focus. On with revolutionary joy first of all revolutionary where revolting against circumstances and. We're turning towards something that we want. It always Join Happiness are not the same thing happiness you. What's going on around US joys? What's going on within us? In some out turning toward what you want revolting against your circumstances and finding that joy from event and then sharing that without a lot of things that we talked about in my program we talk about. What your natural inborn strengths are how you naturally attack tasks because very often we've been trained that opus of the single way that we do this and it saps our energy because we don't find the joy in that task because we didn't do it the way that we're designed to do it and so. I mean I remember I had one client who was really teetering on the edge of quitting her job. She was so frustrated and also talk a lot about core values and I remember her reaching out to me and just saying libby now they understand what I most value in my life and how I attack tasks I know how I can make. This job worked for me in work. Well it actually saved. Her saved her job because end the direction her career was going his. She is ready to throw in the towel and once she realized the way she was operating was frustrating. Thwarting her she was like. Oh okay I I know how to turn this around. Those are just a couple of different stores at another lady who had really severe adrenal issues and she did a walk. Run Five K with her daughter-in-law few months ago she could barely get off the couch. Then you know she go to work do her work and then go home and lay down. So yeah there's all sorts of stories. It's amazing how our mindset impacts every single corner of our lives because we're you know everything is related right absolutely. Ya and you know. So maybe what we need to talk about is. That's like the number one you know talks. They're even before food water. Environmental things is the between the two years. What are we doing there so that we can make good choices on the other side absolutely and you know. It's like a snowball effect. When we start making the right choices for ourselves. Easter having the right mindset easier and easier to collect better habits because habits can't be broken they can only be replaced by so what we wanted to upgrade our habits to things that work for us and for our health and not just always do the default. I love this. So we're getting kind of towards the end of our time libby. I want to make sure that you are getting out the points of your story. I think one last thing that I want to talk about is a little bit of self care. We're talking about getting our bodies through a healing process. But let's talk a little bit about self care. And maybe you're not the one with the chronic disease but maybe you're the person who's caring for someone with a chronic disease. Can you share some of your insights on that absolutely? I'd be happy to you. Know I didn't really understand what it was like two caregiver just as a little aside when about three years ago our son developed really strange sympathy was on the honor. Roll Student Council President Amazing Musician Super Brilliant and he just started having these weird sweating all the time he was sleeping well he his stomach was not all the time could not figure out what's going on in finally within a ten day window. He went from totally normal. Except these little symptoms to a non verbal autistic like state and we later discovered this mold. Biotoxin illness in that. He was getting hit from multiple different angles but he was just so ill that we went to all sorts of specialist. Trying to figure out what's going on it was terrifying to have your child go through that and remember several doctors just saying you know you're going to need to check him in. It's a one way ticket. He's not leaving. Probably you know need to be placed in a home. Here's disability paperwork. He's GonNa be disabled the rest of his life. I mean seeing this kid going from this totally bright future to baton about free superior in I remember calling our specialist or I'm specialists in Michigan. Ever seen anything like this in she said to me I'm only.
"co infections" Discussed on No End In Sight
"Were open. Okay. Okay. Which again, I'm not sure why that test even took place. It's really good to know in case I ever want to birth children. Yeah. But that was her. I think that was this. The doctor's perspective is like, oh, you have all these hormonal things going on. And you might want to get pregnant someday. Let's see if you can unlike, but I don't that's not what I'm asking. That's not what I'm asking. Exactly. So it was it was good to know. Maybe. But it didn't provide any information to my PM D or. Yeah. Any any helpful kind of testing had you been looking for. Or do you know like our tests? I wanted a hormone tests that would give me a full hormone panel of what's happening there. My whole months, and she said that that was like to go through all the phases. Yeah. And she said that would be really difficult which is not I learned because here's what happened next is. I put out a message on Facebook. And I just like, you know, what I've been I've been cancelling things for a canceling events like with friends and appointments, and I've just my I have like only five to ten good days a month these days, maybe it'll help to just tell the world at once what the hell is going on with me. And and also I believe in the strength of speaking of. So that other others can feel validated as well. So I'm like, you know. I have this public presence on Facebook. I'll just do this. I wrote. Here's what's going on with me. I have premenstrual dysphoric disorder. Here's my story, basically explained in short what I just explained to you. And then. And then this woman that I know from the midwifery community here in Minneapolis. She stepped up and she's like come see me. And I was like, I know you and she thought that we should get to the bottom of it. And I went to see her and. She gave me a bunch of a Cessna wants. Which feels like revolutionary someone's actually assessing me instead of being like. Yeah. That's too harmless. Just give you this. So that's super validating our first session together with two and a half hours because that's not unreasonable to talk about no bizarre health stuff. It takes time to go through a full history, which usually isn't time for in the traditional system. Yeah. Yeah. That's a reasonable time for sure. I. Yeah. You and I are sitting here being like, duh because we get it on appeal Nisus just looked over. But no, but it's not standard. It's not. And so I felt really affirmed in that we she gave me assessments. She ended up. Okay. This is an I've listened to a couple of episodes. And I'm so curious as to how many people end up with this diagnosis, but she ended up testing e floor lime disease or Yup. Because that's like. Become a little bit of a catchall. Yeah. It's a quagmire. I would say at quick buyer. Yes. So lime disease in co-infections bartonella. So it turns. So and then the two tests that they have for lime disease here in the states are are crazy because they only test for certain amount of strands, and and like certain levels, and there's just a lot of controversy about those the western blot in the Elisa tests, and so we actually sent my blood to Germany, I put down the money, and I sent we sent it to a lab in Germany that tests were more strands, and I felt more comfortable about doing that than than than the allies are western young. But and so I had I have that done. And then we talk through other symptoms that I had like, I'm tired all the time, Brian fog, and I'm sore, and I have these this really weird neurological symptoms that like half of my body. Like, I could draw a line down the middle of my body. This the my funnest symptom to talk about. So weird. So entertainment value. I could draw a line of a center of my body and the rice ETA, my body works, just fine. It's like it's like a normal human. And then the left side of my body. Like is wrong is like crumbling might. The muscles in between. My ribs just like collapse on me. And I have Bell's palsy on the left side of my face. Like it actually feel face. Feels like it's drooping a lot more than it actually looks like, it's drooping. And I started to notice if that is part of my cycle to and it and it is. So I don't know maybe the lime is causing my PM d that's what my practitioner kinda thinks. But I don't know. Sure. I've no idea, but it is it hands down. I have I have lied tests showed I came back. The do they still do a western blot but like fuller spectrum? Or is it a totally different? Telstar makes it's it's a totally different tasks as a different lab a different tack than in a wider range of Monrovia because there's different strands. Also, right like lime is Borelli ah. I can never start when either guitar for Bergdorf, right? Yeah. I I always Bergdorf. And then I'm like, I don't know how to pronounce it. Sure. Got the emphasis wrong already, but there's so many other Borelli strands to I know like one of my questions right now is that my the screener, and it's the other one because there was the Lisa and then there's. There's no there's less screeners. So like, there's two different ways that they screen with the immuno assay or something. Anyway, all yeah. The H H G A HD. What am I gosh sounding there's there's high in the western blot, which is the different antibodies. But the way that they screen for it in the first place, at least that is one. And there's a second one. I think Jonah has either gen-x has a different head or Labcorp has a different method. It doesn't matter. People listening probably half of them will already know them. We'll be like this is nuts. But for example, my experience is that my screener has been consistently positive, but my western blot changes. And so my doctor's like, wow, that's weird. Because there's all these other problems around fell false positives with lime testing and also negative sublime testing. I'm sure you've been down this rabbit hole now. But yes, this number is not changing while this number is changing. And that's weird. But we don't. Why? Right. And and I mean, I've been I've been sick and getting sicker for so long and dealing with a PM DD they for so long them, like whatever I don't care use me as an experiment like look at my lab numbers. I don't care. Let's just keep trying things because I am sick of being sick. And I'm I'm sick of having to cancel my life. Because. It's hard. Yeah. And lime or not or right? You know, what western blot? Yeah. Whatever it's. Yeah. So yeah. So when we tested for lime because I must have been within the last two years. Yeah. That was last year a at about this time last year. So right before it was tested for lime this practitioner that suggested that test oh going back to a piece of our conversation. She also gave me the chest where he spit in the vial a couple. Yeah. You know, every other day that was really easy that tested to my hormone panel. And I'm like, why couldn't this other doctor give it to me? I don't know. Right. This is preferred for a lot of hormones compared to a blood test. Exactly. And it was it was so easy. And and you know, I just froze my little vials and sent him off to the lab. And and it was it was insightful. And 'cause they kept a journal that month. And it's like, oh, yeah. Again, affirmed. This that my Lucille phase is messed up. Yeah. And. And then so we're probably so the lime Tesla's a year ago. The the hormone tasks was like maybe six months ago, we're not ruling out other tests to see like to see how I'm metabolising vitamins and everything like that. Oh, and we tested for Epstein Barr virus. And there is there is some research that suggests that Lyman obscene bar, you probably know this are related and that I have. The my lab show that I was have been exposed to to E V in that's probably chronic emulates. And that's where the fatigue comes in. And all that. And yeah. So this is. This is all.
"co infections" Discussed on Collective Insights
"Let's jump back in. Not patients remove the eating of moldy foods from their diet. And my patients still get well soon. I'm in your camp that that is consistent with my clinical experiences. Well, so. So we're about to do a study with Great Plains laboratory, which we're going to take patients or volunteers, actually, and we're gonna do this as a multi center trial using a number of physicians who are on the executive board of high CI. We're going to take patients have stopped consuming all known moldy foods for ten days. Measure in their urine and had them pig out on all those known moldy foods for ten days. And then see what we get now to my knowledge that's never been done where that study should launch at the end of this year beginning of the year, and I hope by early two thousand nineteen I'll actually be able to have a preliminary answer, for physicians and consumers of to what extent does that matter answer? Don't know. Does it matter? I don't think so. Have had a handful of patients respond to not eating those foods. Don't know what. That means. I'm going to shift gears for a second on food. What we do know is treating mold in which Candida almost always plays a role in wanna be on a high protein, low carb diet because Kubwa hydrates particularly sugar and fruit shade Candida and feed fungal species. And that does make a difference. And we use the same diet for lime because that seems to make a difference as well. Okay. So consistent with both lime animals have that low sugar, low, carb diet, hypertension, high nutrient dense and stay away from from the fluff. So. Testing for Lyme kind of. Complicated. I would say is a short answer to that aside from what you mentioned with the genetics western blot. Is there anything any other way that you can get to what co-infections are what's going on there? And then is that important when it comes to treatment. Again, many answers to that question. There are other tests on the market and then mold versus lime. So both are going on. Where do you start? Virtually always with mold hundred give you a bunch of reasons for that. Number one because mold and lime look so similar. I can make the mole diagnosis with much more certainty because the testing is better number two. I don't need to jump into antibiotics which are almost always necessary in the line world. I would like to avoid that. So literally if you if you you can't be certain that one is not in play. So if you treat the mold successfully and all the symptoms go away, you didn't have to provide antibiotics for that patients on necessarily from both a toxic affect affect on their gut. Biomass affect on cost. You didn't need to do that. So I would always treat them old. I it is also less toxic easier to treat and much less hard on the body. So I typically start with mold. I can tell you that. I've had. Very very few exceptions tattoo couple where they had both. And for whatever reason they could start with mold their body wouldn't let them when we started with Nella their body tolerated in handler better. And then we were able to move on to mold. They're really exceptions in the nisei argument that perhaps the body will take care of the line or the co-infections. If the toxicity is gone in the immune system starts to work a little better. Or do you not typically see that have you seen the look on my face? I know. These are both nasty processes for most of my mold patients, the mold has colonized, and they're gutting sinuses. They're happy there. This is perfect temperature. Watts of nutrients it's dark. It's comfy. They love their host or hostess, why would they leave? They're not gonna go away because you wish them away sameness true with Lyman co-infections. Perfect temperature lovely nutrients lovely cellular debris defeat upon. Why would they leave? They they just don't go away. Now, you are alluding to something that's important, which is lime weakens the immune system and predisposed to not being able to handle mould mould, we consume insistent and pretty disposes to to to letting y or co-infections flourish..
"co infections" Discussed on Collective Insights
"You've got line. So. Those difficulties are magnified when it comes to the co-infections. For example, there are twenty seven known species of bartonella, and we only know how to test for two of them. There are one hundred eight known species of the beast, and we only know how to test for two of them. So you can see how testing is useful. If you have a positive test that really helps us move in the right direction, but a negative test for any of these things does not roll it out got it. And when. And can I go back for a second? Because one of the questions I get a lot about mold is what about the foods? So an in really with lime as well. Do you have to be concerned about how your diet? Do you need to change your diet? If you get one of these diagnoses of moulder line, and particularly with mold the question about coffee, grapes wine, you know, all of these things that could be potentially high mold moldy food is that of concern to you. Or do you tell your patients not to worry about it? Very good question around which much is said and virtually nothing is known to my knowledge. There are no studies whatsoever. That show that what you eat relates to having either mold in your urine for diagnosis or that it affects you we know with some certainty that inhaled mold is infinitely more causative in terms of creating multi city. We do know that. Because no one's ever studied it. You can say all right anything you want. Most of us do not think that ingested or eaten mold plays a very big role. I am in that camp. Or taking a quick break here next. Stop will discuss lime disease and some other infections that commonly occur alongside mood and lime issues. Dr Nathan offers us.
"co infections" Discussed on Bulletproof Radio
"Exactly. And I look at the patient. I treat the patient and their patterns. I never treat cancer or cancer tumors. I treat the terrain imbalances, and that is what those ten chapters are honor these each of those ten patterns. So my process twenty seven years later still with the tumor. Right? Ovary still at lesions on my liver, still with peritoneal implants and Matosas still dealing with lovely Dima when I fly from limb data liberty from all that pressure build up from years. That aside, he's really blew out my core things that you're by plate, which I'm standing on. I'm like, I stand between clients because my team will get terrible all day long, but that has been one of the hugest changes in my lymph Adiba. Was that purchase. A little plug for you. Thank you. I mean, vibrating, your whole buddy is going to move lymph. You're just. No, it is right. My poor little vessels were so damaged from all that pressure for so long that they just never quite got their own groove. And that as I've gotten older and stand a lot and travel a lot, they got weaker in my team has gotten worse as limiting Melayu and I am traduced your plate a few years ago and it made it's like a miracle. Pretty cool thing. But ultimately, I had to be very careful about sharing my story interest for years. The most people who came to see me were just saying, I want you to enhance my therapy. Now the the pendulum is starting to move where most people are coming to be saying. I don't wanna do any therapy, and you're gonna find for me that I'm likely somewhere in between because I don't tell you, oh, this is your cancer in how you treated. I say, let's look at the burden. Let's look at the whole terrain, and let's see what is absolutely specific to you from your genetics from your genome from your tissue, ASA, from your blood levels from current state of well-being? From the other co factors co infections, co traumas at center that you're dealing with? Because sometimes we might need a bigger piece of equipment to push this back. Right. And sometimes you don't have to be that aggressive depending on the situation and so we don't have to guests at Dave. And I think that's one of the coolest things you mentioned a moment ago. We've come to a time that I think it's irresponsible. Negligent and frankly, malpractice, if people are not being offered an integrative approach to their cancer, we know too much to know that we can absolutely enhance the effect of Commissioner interventions or even decide precisely what commensurate intervention is warranted for that person any given time, and we can absolutely overcome the horrible tick of seventy percent of cancer. Patients have had cancer will have a recurrence that the tros and I won't play that game. So I am committed as I am on my own twenty seven years out. I'm still always looking under the hood. I'm still exploring what works, what doesn't work for me and still tweaking my metabolic.
"co infections" Discussed on Bulletproof Radio
"We can make it grasp head wild cot, all that stuff. And there are a lot of things you get ten bucks on the menu in Santa Monica, which is not a cheap neighborhood either. It's probably on par with Marin, and that's not a KFC McDonald's level of forcible yet. But part of the reason that I do the show is when there's enough demand when people start looking at junk food and saying, actually, that's not food. I don't eat rocks. I didn't cactus donate that. Then the cost for organic properly made food that supports Valgy will drop just because the supply will go up. So the number of acres of grassland that's in production, defeat, animals, instead of soil and sprayed with crap it. It's changing and it's changing more rapidly than we can grow healthy soil more rapidly than the food system can adapt. But the demand, I think is there. So what I think both of us are asking people listening to do is to pay attention. And to make those choices and a follow on question that assuming that that people are going to do that, there are still some diets out there that advocated cheat day with you should eat really good for five days and then just go out and eat whatever you want. Tell me what that does if I'm getting most of the time, and then I just have pizza wrapped around synthetic cheesecake so okay, where humans, we gotta grandma's house. We wait. We have dates, we go to restaurants. We go to the beach where it went, family member's houses who don't practice our food believes we don't wanna be that person. Oh no, he's coming to dinner. So I often the eighty twenty row. Can you eat? Well eighty percent of time and time present time let your standards down now it depends where you are treatment plant in how sick you are. So let's say you're kid just a little constipation that you better. You have no other issues going on your all better. Yeah, that could do that. And I give them a dad, some tools to offset the GMO's glyphosate the gluten pizza, whatever they're doing. However, there are some people, some kids, grown-ups who can't. Those might be people with autumn, you disease chronic Lyme disease co-infections cancers. And I say, no, you can't do it. Don't do it because the setback might be too much for them to rally back. It just depends where you are in. I am hardcore with those folks unless they've been symptom free for a few years now. I have cheats I use. I have on me Pathak herbal and food cheats that I have. I give people to use when they're gonna have that bad day. I have. Let's say I might use a safe in high dose. I might use a homeopathic from Sabine pharma to offset with has, which has Pathak Dereck succumb in it dandelion don't spray it eat it. I have a product supreme nutrition that I like to offset gripe toxicity. I have a homeopathic product from despite, oh, at cleanse when people I know are eating. Non-organic. So I have always little things that people know how to use is. Oh, okay. You're going there. Just make sure you bring your blank with you. Take it before during after the dose you should do. What do you think about activated charcoal? If I'm gonna eat something, the restaurant that's questionable. I always take that with food. Good idea about idea. I like activated char- charcoal. I'm not. I don't push any particular brands here. I know you have your product line. I reduce charcoal to charcoal to thank you. I I like to do what works and you know, you keep educating me and I am open to get people what works and as clean products as I possibly can. I am very snobbish about what's in my supplements for my patients. Where was this? Maytham GMO corn. No, thank you. I want to know where it came from. Probiotics may by Dow, I don't think so it cetera, et cetera. So I try to be as good as I can and your products. I am sure are super clean g. MOS over. Thanks for that..