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"clyburn" Discussed on Skullduggery
"Eisenhower's military strategists was brilliant knowing what he controlled and what he didn't control. And this is one reason. Why senator mccarthy a he had a dab to adopt a very sophisticated way of dealing with mccarthyism because it was a senate who had to censure. Senator mccarthy's the president. United states couldn't do that and in the of that he didn't believe in personalities which is to criticize anybody personally in public because in doing so you would make a dedicated enemy so there. I think there's plenty of the of the book. I did hear joe biden. Say this morning. I think that he was going to be doing what he could control. I was thinking yes. That's great. that's great because that's we have to assess each issue and figure out where the points of leverage are and where the president states can actually make that significant difference. But i know all of us really wish the new president well and even those out in rural areas the ones who voted for donald trump. I think the few death moves in the beginning of this administration. Go a long way to softening up what remains of his base and h w a final thought is harder to be president today then was to be president. Dwight eisenhower's day. I hope that the country has not become ungovernable. If you look at the history of the presidencies of this century george w bush barack obama donald trump. It's partisan war from the very beginning lot of this has to do with changes in the parties themselves. in eisenhower's day there were conservative democrats. That eisenhower could work. It was the texas troika of eisenhower. Born denison texas lyndon johnson sam rayburn house senate majority leader in steve the house they ran the country and it was a very bipartisan leadership. Bipartisanship is almost dead at this point because the parties have sifted out so much philosophically. There are no conservative. democrats arnaud liberal republicans now. I hope that's not a terminal condition but as long as that is the case. Then it's really difficult for any president since you're sitting presidents to expect any cooperation from the other party there's simply no incentive to do so but if i hope it's possible that if somehow there can be a little bit of movement so that even if only three or four republican senators vote for conviction of donald trump on the impeachment charge then in demonstrates that okay this is not simply a partisan issue and then maybe build from there so you just add to that though that three or four vote Trump is still acquitted. You need seventeen to convict him. Seventeen republicans to do so and are you at all nervous that a lacking that the headlines going to trump acquitted. I'm not too concerned about it. Actually i think the senate has to act constitutionally it has to act and i think that if trump is not convicted then simply viewing it from a political standpoint democrats will be able to hold republicans to account in twenty twenty two and in twenty twenty four. Say okay. you're still party. That's clinging to donald trump's. The democrats won this time around because donald trump was such a burden to the republicans. There were so many people came out and voted against donald trump. The democrats should hope that they can get people to turn out and vote against donald trump at twenty twenty two and maybe again in two thousand twenty four. in fact simply from the democrats heart isn standpoint they're better off having donald trump hang around then for the republicans to get a reasonable candidate. Well i'm not sure anybody actually wants him to hang around at this point. A good riddance aged period is going to be long. Yes yes and it could be usefully. Used by reading the books of susan eisenhower and h w brands. I want thank you both for joining us thank you..
"clyburn" Discussed on Skullduggery
"There aren't that many of us and we. We can't hit back. Let you can always get on podcasts. There has a long history politicizing american history and it happens at the state level. All the time. I live in texas and but if across the american south you see this and so how are we going to teach the civil war. How are we gonna teach session. So there's nothing new about this and in some respects seventeen. Seventy six report is a re poss- to the new york times sixteen nineteen project which basically says that everything about american history follows from the introduction of slaves in virginia in sixteen nineteen which most academic historians would say. This is a very tendentious reading of american history. So that's nuts. From the left. The seventeen seventy six project is tendentious. Nece from the right now. I will say this in defense of my colleagues that most of us are nowhere near either end of the spectrum. We do the best. We can to expose our students to various interpretations of history. And let them make up their own minds. One of the things that struck me on on on reading it is the report tries to draw a connection between john. Calhoun a senator. You wrote about and former vice president who basically argued that slavery is a good institution that needs to be preserved. It's not just a a relic from the past that south unwanted disrupt its economy to get rid of but it was a positive good because african americans were intellectually inferior not capable of governing themselves. It was right to have white masters owning them. But they draw connection that they portray that as part of a theory of group rights and then draw direct connection between calhoun and those who advocate for affirmative action There say they both think in terms of group rights instead of individual rights. What do you make of that. Well as i said it's a very tendentious reading of history. You can ring out of some of the things that john. calhoun said. Some things will connect with identity politics today but to think that there's any of the spirit of john calhoun on the american left. Today is an absurd reading of the past bright and just remind us just who john calhoun was and how influential he was in the war. Figure in the american congress especially the american senate in the first half of the nineteenth century was from south carolina. He probably had the sharpest legal and constitutional mind of his era. He was the theorist of secession. I went south. Carolina threatened succeed in the eighteen thirties but then his ideas were carried forward past his death. When south carolina's lead to secession movement. Starting right. After abraham lincoln's election he was also apologised for slaves. She point out so he became at one time. He was a national figure early in his political career. He had hopes of becoming president but when the south began retreating more into concern for slavery and it became clear that he could not be a national figure. He decided to become the hero to the south. And you see him becoming more extreme on slavery more strain on the state's rights in secessions question. Well to end this fascinating discussion. I think we ought to take advantage of the fact that we have a relative of an american president on our panel. And i'd like to ask you. Susan what you think joe biden can learn from. Dwight eisenhower. the thing that comes to mind for me is that biden has talked about kind of calming things down in this country that we have been in this period of great tumbled and hyper partisanship and that we need to take a breath and calm down which i think a lot of americans would like to do and i think of as having played that role that that period seemed calmer and more placid and a lot of ways. But i wonder what you think. Well dan thank you for that question. You know i. I must say back to a binds inaugural ceremony. I was just thrilled. The garth brooks came and sang. And i don't think there was a dry eye in the national house and i say that because it was some nod to the fact that the singer from oklahoma comes from a part of the world that did not support the president it would be. I think if you don eisenhower were being inaugurated right now. He would do some things right off the bat to show the people who lost the election that he cares about them to another words. This would be there all sorts of ways to call at strategically but it's not co option necessarily but we have so much mistrust mistrust of the elites and the rest of it that that has to be shown. So you can't tell you have to show to the other thing is that. I think it's up to all of us to help dispel this culture that was produced vividly in donald trump's assessment. Thank you know. This country has not made up of winners and losers. This is a theme that recurs in my book. Dwight eisenhower wanna win. Moore's but he never labeled people winners and losers second chance ways to patients with their maturity and the rest of it and i think that this winners and losers things makes compromises extremely difficult. I mean we're surrounded by maximus. Let's go in and if you can get three quarters of what you want. That's great or can't we do some horse-trading so i think the optum of the earlier point that h w made i mean it's a terrific thing. That biden is from the senate because he knows how to horse trade. And so does mitch mcconnell and mitch mcconnell on the right side of the republican line at this point and so two other things very quickly. Eisenhower's military strategists was brilliant knowing what he controlled and what he didn't control. And this is one reason. Why senator mccarthy a he had.
"clyburn" Discussed on Skullduggery
"Let me ask you about another president. Who was a subject of one of your great books. And that is not andrew. Johnson but andrew jackson and trump seems to have considered jackson a kindred spirit of sorts put his hung his portrait in the oval office which has now been taken down. Trump is often called a populist america. First so on and so forth. What are the parallels. And what are the differences between those two presidents. There is a fairly close parallel between the people who voted for andrew jackson and the people who voted for donald trump in the sense that the vote signal in patients and a resentment against entrenched elites jackson was the first really ordinary person to be elected and he came after a presidency that began with george washington and ran through john. Quincy adams the son of john where basically it was an aristocratic institution and jackson breaks that whole and in doing so he begins to say that this is he actually. He's the first president who's known as the people's president so the people who voted for donald trump seemed to have taken the view that government is wrong government is broken basically. They seem to be saying they wanted to blow up government. They took something that ronald reagan had said in his first inaugural address said. The government's is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem itself but that has gone much farther in the last forty years to government is not just a problem. Governments the enemy so that populist sentiment that populous compulsion was responsible for the election of jackson and for the election. Donald trump now in terms of the individuals. There is no comparison. What so ever. Andrew jackson was a consummate gentleman. Andrew jackson never said anything. Ill or believed anything ill about any woman. When andrew jackson gave his word his word was his bond. Andrew jackson revered the institutions of the american republic energy avenue jackson understood how fragile the country was he had been born before. There was an american republic. Donald trump assumes retook everything for granted and the other thing is that andrew jackson was as honest as could be certainly in his public dealings and donald trump or knows where we are that. One of the last acts of the trump presidency pardoning a bunch of cronies. Like steve bannon and others and not showing. Up for biden's inauguration was the release of this thing called the seventeen seventy six report which was done by a commission appointed by the president and largely seems to be an attack on leftist academics and the media for portraying america with many sins with slavery as as the central one and was a broadsided you know criticism of the way american. History is understood that we do not glorify our founders and our founding documents in the way they should be H w what do you make of this report. Well first thing. I'll say is that academics are an easy target..
Laurence Tribe says Trump should be impeached again even if a Senate conviction is unlikely
"Professor tribe welcome back to the podcast. It's been three years. Wow it doesn't seem like three years seemed like three months but you know time is very both compressed expanded these days. I wonder if it'll feel different after january twentieth. One can only hope and pray. That is why we are here because we need to have a discussion about what could possibly happen over the next nine days and right now the entire conversation happening in. The country is about the insurrection by domestic terrorists on the us capitol on january sixth and what form of accountability. should president trump have for inciting his followers and supporters to do that to the capital. And i wanna walk through each of the each of the proposed things. And let's start with the one that you and i both agree on and that is impeachment. The president of the united states should be impeached. A second time. Talk about why you feel. It's important that that bit of accountability happen first of all. No president has ever in our history done anything as obviously subject to impeachment. This is the quintessential high crime and misdemeanor the head of the executive branch. Fomenting violent insurrection and sedition against the legislative branch in an attack. The vet was apparently quite orchestrated but even if not president's involvement in it in a visible way so obvious that for us not to make him the first president in our history to be impeached. A second time would send a terrible signal to all future presidents to kids growing up in this country to the world that this is somehow not a high crime and misdemeanor so that if if the only effective in teaching him was purely historical marker that it lay down. Even if that was the only effect it would be indispensable but it isn't the only effect. There's a chance that it will put pressure on the senate in particular on mitch. Mcconnell to stop dragging their feet and to move more expeditiously after all the trial of president. Trump i don for his other impeachable activity involving trying to extort the crane in order to benefit himself in this very election. That whole trial just took three days. And when mitch mcconnell says as though it were written in the stars we can't come back until january nineteenth. When asked by the hell not. I mean it's a completely artificial propositions so pressure on him to actually reconvene the senate and have a trial. Which shouldn't take long. Because this was one of those rare instances. Both the initial attempt to pressure the secretary of state of georgia referenced burger to undo the results of the election and the follow one riot that the president fomented attacking the capital in leaving people dead. All those were in plain view of the american people end of the world. So it's not a very complicated trial and the result of that trial even if it didn't end until two days before the end of this presidency by natural processes occurred would still result in his conviction removal and disqualification. Assuming that was also voted from ever holding future office. Not as a vindictive matter but as a way of permanently killing this cancer. Exciting it from our national politics. Even if that doesn't happen james clyburn. Another have suggested that the trial could occur after the biden administration had time to get up and running spent one hundred days actually with constructive measures and then even though he's no longer president. Trump could be convicted and permanently disqualified. There are some scholars soup. Think that that is not a constitutional possibility but the evidence is pretty strong. That that's one option open to the congress and if you think about it the framers in designing the constitution would hardly have wanted to design it so that a really dangerous precedent could resign the moment before it looked like the senate was going to convict disqualify him and thereby cut short. The ability of the senate to perform the constitutional function of excising cancer from our politics is. It can't be that by the mere act of voluntarily ending his presidency a moment earlier that president could prevent the congress from doing its work and what that implies is that even though it is impossible for the senate to remove a an officer like the president. Because he's not removable anymore. He's removed himself ton. That clock has run even if it's impossible for it to remove him. It has the power to decide. Probably by amir majority vote that he should be disqualified from ever again holding federal office so those are among the reasons to go ahead and the final reason i should just mention is that an impeachment would hang over his head like the sort of damocles have been impeached that if he makes another terrible move for example if each is to pardon all of the people who were physically involved in the insurrection of the capital giving them a pardon from any federal prosecution if he were to do that then maybe that would suddenly motivate his removal and disqualification and so the deterrent also has a protective function for all those reasons. His impeachment think is mandatory. Unless of course he just resigns or pence response of will be asking me about the twenty fifth amendment tense response to the twenty fifth amendment called. It's going to be made upon him
House prepares to impeach Trump for inciting the U.S. Capitol riot
"Democrats are moving forward with the plan to impeach President Trump for a second time. President has just nine days left in office, and Democrats say this week they plan to file an impeachment resolution. This follows Trump's incitement of his supporters last Wednesday, hundreds of whom descended on the U. S Capitol. The violent scene left five people dead, including a Capitol police officer and NPR congressional correspondent Kelsey Snell is here with us this morning with the latest take healthy. Good morning. How will this impeachment proceeding work? Well, it will start today when Democrats plan to bring up a resolution that would call on Vice President Mike Pence to invoke the 25th amendment. Democrats will try to pass that unanimously, but Republicans could and probably will block it with just one objection. After that, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is basically giving Pence 24 hours. I kind of ultimatum to decide if he's going to invoke the 25th amendment. If he doesn't she plans to bring the process you know to Ah, hold of bring together the process to hold a vote on impeachment. Which could happen as early as Wednesday. Now on the question of impeachment, it's currently just one article referring to incitement to insurrection. It's based on Trump's address to the crowd before the riots began, and his attempts to overturn the election in 2020 more than 200. Democrats have signed on, and I'm told that they expect some Republicans will support it, too. You know, Democrats are pretty unified and saying what happened? The capital cannot be swept under the rug. Is that Trump can't be allowed to simply leave office without any consequences, And they want to make sure that the Senate has the opportunity to vote to convict so that it can bar trump from holding future federal office. Okay, Kelsey. This actually brings me to the question of Republicans. We heard a few of them say over the last few days, they want Trump out of office. How widespread? Is that feeling within the GOP, you know, some of that is kind of hard to gauge because most of them have been quiet. We know that Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski was the first to say that Trump should resign, but she's been joined by retiring Senator Pat Toomey. He was asked about this yesterday on CNN. I think at this point with just a few days left, it's the best half forward. Now there are a few others that agree. But some others, like Missouri Senator Roy Blunt, who's part of Republican leadership, says he basically wants Trump to be quiet for 10 days and just leave. You know, House Republican leaders have also mostly been silent, except for Liz Cheney, who has often broken with the rest of House Republican leadership when it comes to Trump Okay. This process the house wants to do is is really quick. But there's still the Senate, right? And you know, that is really the wild card here because Republicans will control the Senate until the Georgia elections are certified. And then the Senate has to meet and do some required organizing work. So that means that Mitch McConnell would control the timing and the Senate is out of session. So what would need to happen is they would have to bring them back into session. They would start a trial basically around Inauguration Day. Once an impeachment trial is triggered in the Senate, it stops everything else from happening. It forces senators to come to the Senate floor stick down six days a week until the trial concludes, and that could take weeks. House Minority Whip Jim Clyburn floated a proposal that he says could solve it. Here He is yesterday on CNN President Look Bad 100 days he needs to get his agenda off and running. Maybe we'll send you the articles. Sometimes after that, Ah, 100 Days is a really long time And that could be well after Trump leaves office And you know, Democrats want to proceed for all the reasons I've mentioned before, but this creates a really complicating political moment for Biden as he tries to, you know, move forward and move the country ahead. And this is all happening. I 30 seconds with you as we prepare for Joe Biden's inauguration. What are the concerns about safety? Yeah, they're still concerns the capitals a little bit like a fortress right now, with fences and National Guard troops and there. There's a process of a review right now. But there are serious concerns about whether or not the capital but will be fully safe for the bite. Administration were told that there are really efforts right now trying to Trying to beef up security and take every precaution. Possible.
What will consequences be over U.S. Capitol siege?
"Donald Trump remains president of the United States this morning despite the siege mounted of the capital by many of his supporters on his behalf. He only has nine days left in his term, but efforts continue to get him out of the White House earlier than that. Democrats have been urging vice president Pence to invoke the 25th amendment with the Cabinet seeks support for removing the president. With that still unlikely House Democrats have an article of impeachment ready today, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi appearing on CBS's 60 Minutes evidences Now that That it was a well planned Organized group with leadership and guidance and direction and the direction was You go get people They were vocally saying, Where's the speaker? We know she has staff. They're here someplace we're gonna find them. They were also calling for the hanging of vice president Pence after he refused Mr Trump's illegal suggestion that he unilaterally attempt to toss out the will of the Electoral College. On Fox News Sunday, House majority went past my minority whip Jim House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn said he believes a final decision has been made to go forward with that second impeachment. I think that will come probably Tuesday on maybe once there, but it will happen. This week. And if that happens, the votes very clearly there in the house for it said it, though, may not take the issue up until after President elect Biden takes office, perhaps even months after because outgoing Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell refuses to hold a trial this week. And a trial that begins on Inauguration Day could hold up confirmation of biting Cabinet members and any additional covert relief legislation, which is a top priority for the new administration. Is Democrats take control of the Senate? On NBC's meet the Breasts, Republican Senator Pat Toomey said President Trump needs to go the sooner the better. I think the best way for our country chock is for the president to resign and go away as soon as possible. I acknowledge that may not be likely, but I think that would be best. It's pineapple warnings about pro Trump demonstrations in Washington U. S. Capitol police did not bolster staffing Wednesday and made no preparations for the possibility. Planned protest could escalate into massive violent riots more from correspondent Nancy Chen. The FBI has received digital media tips and it's wide scale investigation into Wednesday's deadly siege on the U. S. Capitol. With President Trump's supporters publicly discussing their intent and planning on social media experts are working to understand Why law enforcement was so ill prepared. Clearly there were some sort of coordination and pre planning
Trump may face 2nd impeachment after deadly Washington, DC riot
"Less than two weeks to go before President Trump leaves office, Democrats in the House are still moving to impeach him for his role in inciting the mop that attacked the capital. Majority Whip James Clyburn of South Carolina, said today that they do plan to take a vote this week with a single article of impeachment being introduced on the House floor tomorrow. It can go directly to the floor and it may not go through the regular will be called regular water through maybe the Judiciary Committee. So it may be Tuesday, Wednesday before action is taken, but I think it will be taken this week. However, Clyburn also tells CNN state State of the union that House Democrats may wait to send the articles of impeachment to the Senate until after President elect Joe Biden takes office and installs key members of his administration.
Clyburn says House may hold articles of impeachment until after Biden's first 100 days
"Attack on the Capitol in Washington, D. C one Senior Democratic said the party may wait until after Joe Biden's 1st 100 days in office before sending articles of impeachment effectively an indictment against President Trump to the Senate. That's where he'd be tried on a conviction requires a two thirds majority of senators to vote for it. James Clyburn told CNN that the labor give the new president a chance to start enacting his agenda in Congress before any trial. We'll take the vote that we should take in the house, and she will make the determination as when is the best time to get that vote and get the manager's upon it and move that legislation over to the Senate. It's just so happens that if you didn't go there for 100 days, it could let's give President Elect Batten the 100 days he needs to get his agenda off and running. Maybe real. Send the articles sometimes after that.
Unsung Heroes Presented by Claiborne Farm
"Have the privilege of welcoming in wesley per cell who is the claiborne. Farm brood mare manager. He is our very first person to be recognized on this new unsung heroes segment wesley. First of all good morning my friend and thank you for everything that you do. Thank you for having me on the show to obviously a privilege to do this. And i'm glad to be here talking with you so excited you know walker bernie other great people at claiborne. They they stepped up with the sponsorship of this segment. And i thought it would be appropriate that we start with a claiborne farm representative and there's when you think about the personnel name. You'd be difficult. It'd be difficult to find somebody that's more ingrained in the culture of claiborne than you. My friend you were raised at the in a farmhouse on the property and that name per cell is pretty much synonymous week labor. That's correct My brother and i we still currently work out here My father worked here for over close to forty years started. Here nineteen seventy. I've had numerous calls Actually on both sides of the family work here so you know clybourn and and the per sales of go back several several years probably starting in the mid sixties of one of my first articles Making his debut out here you know. I read an article that had a piece about your uncle. Don am i correct on that he was your uncle. Right don yes. He was a yearling manager for several years. Yup yup and Passed away in september. Unfortunately you will be missed. But he worked with secretariat riva ridge roundtable and even got to meet his favorite actor. John wayne at clayborn kinda interesting. When we we had visitation we We saw those pictures. And it's just it's amazing because you hear people talk about opposite. John wayne in these horses like secretary and river ridge and so forth but for family members to be associated with them and and have memorabilia pictures taken with them on both sides of the spectrum with horses and People it's it's it's just awesome. What was it like growing up in a house on the property there at clamored kind of second to none. Go out and you do your childhood thing. You know you're playing basketball or whatever may be in the yard but you've got these these thoroughbreds this you know front door back tour left and right Beside you ever day knowing that they're going to make an impact on a lot of people's lives As they you know these babies grow mature and it to the race track in the mayor's or the the stallion he'll come back for their secondary career. So you know growing up as a young child. You didn't really know the importance of that. But you you know your dad worked here in your uncles and you know there was a major significant taking place you know. Every kid likes to have a big backyard to go out and play in. You had acres and acres and acres to go play in if you wanted to. What did your friends and maybe some of the other students that you were in school with growing up. Think about you living on a horse farm like that. I remember my. I believe it was my first grade year. Our field trip was to claiborne farm. So i'm six seven years old and i'm so ecstatic. When they announced it we're going to claiborne farm. You know this is where i live and i can recall telling my classmates house. We rode the bus out here. You know i was. I was like the tour guide at six years of age. And we pass by my house. You know something special say. Hey i live there And all the kids stuff that it was very interesting but To do that as a young child. And you know that's one thing that's all people remember where you took your field trip bad you know in kindergarten first second third grade and so forth but to be able to say that i took a field trip to a place that i grew up i lived on still holds a special pricing heart. There as you were growing up and you're starting to get a little bit. Did you always think that you would find yourself working at kleber. You know from day one. You know the passion of horses and and that it's in your it's in your you know your father's coming home and he's talking about horses like swell in rough and i mean i can just sit here name. A list of horses easy. Go where we can go down the line but you know i wanted to pursue a career in education and that's what i ended up doing And i got a degree at the university of kentucky. But that was doing that. You know the back of my mind. I'm like you know. I've got this opportunity. Clyburn that there. And so. When i while i was away from it. You know that that's what you're supposed to be doing in this life. So what was your first job on the farm. When i was about fifteen years of age Had a weed eater. My hand wasn't the greatest experience with that something. He knows a young kid. You pay your dues. And i would go around. You know the pastures and the a lanes of the farm and we'd we'd and as a group of High school. You know kids that would do that. Every year and My second season out here. I did started working with the marriage. The baby's my father was the form and at that time So he gave me a lotta great guidance and how to handle yourself around a thoroughbred the presence needed And the relationships that you build with each individual horse and that's that's where it really started with my second season out here
US House panel says Trump officials attacked CDC COVID reports
"Panel says Trump administration political appointees tried to block or change more than a dozen government articles that detailed scientific findings about the spread of the coronavirus. Congressman James Clyburn says his coronavirus committing investigators. Found evidence of a political pressure campaign to bully professionals at the Centers for Disease Control.
House panel subpoenas for Azar, Redfield CDC documents
"Watchdog panel is firing subpoenas at US Health Secretary Alex A czar and CDC director, Robert Redfield. House Select subcommittee on the Corona virus crisis is demanding documents related to reports of political interference with the CDC. The committee alleges that top Trump Administration officials meddled with roughly a dozen scientific reports on the spread of the Corona virus. This past summer. South Carolina Democrat James Clyburn accused Trump political appointees of trying to muzzle career scientists. Clyburn chairs the subcommittee.
"clyburn" Discussed on Radio Atlantic
"And people loved it up top people all of that. They were pleased to be to stay in pajamas and experience that network event. That's what we're gonna do this. Inauguration bigger happened enough tradition. Bit the swearing-in year just below this window behind me the ability that phone there now and the swearing in will take brezler up. I'm hopefully they won't blind spun out for me. Look out this monday. I don't need to be standing on the gentle. It may be too cold in the first place. And so we're gonna have enough tradition but then we'll ask people to stay home. Stay in short on television. We'll have enough tradition to be an inauguration but we do practice what we preach. We will not sponsor a superspreader for our inauguration. Be want everybody to be around when we have the big celebration. Benching of this president say if not july four hundred twenty one. And maybe john year to an a to be will celebrate this presidency and hopefully with a lot of successes that people can be a partner up congressman clyburn. We're going to have to leave it there. You've got work to get back to in congress. And i appreciate you taking the time. Thank you for having me That'll do it for this week. Of the ticket. Politics the atlantic thanks to kevin townsend for producing and editing this episode and to our new producer. Ac valdez our theme. Music is by brake master cylinder. If you have thoughts on the show where ideas for email me. At isaac at the atlantic dot com and a note before the show will be on a break for the holidays. While i'll be finishing a book about the two thousand twenty election. Our next episode will come out thursday january seventh as always. Thanks for listening and.
"clyburn" Discussed on Radio Atlantic
"Into the ticket. Well joe biden has once again the presidency the electoral college votes this week confirming his victory and setting the stage for his inauguration after sixty fruitless legal challenges this past month it feels like won the presidency over and over and over but i have to say that outcome looked pretty unlikely. The beginning of twenty twenty despite being a popular former vice president biden started the primary season coming in fourth in iowa and then fifth in new hampton all that change in south carolina though leading biden to win the democratic nomination and eventually the presidency with one endorsed guests. This week congressman. Jim clyburn so when congressman clyburn came out and endorsed biden three days before the vote it was seen as a turning point biden went onto hanley win the state. Now clyburn has gone from binding kingmaker to biden dealmaker as the house majority whip and a leader in the congressional black caucus any legislation. The new president wants to pass will in part go through clyburn. I spoke with the congressman for an atlantic live event this week about the transition and i wanted to bring that conversation here to the ticket. Does he think that biden is keeping his promise of having the most diverse cabinet ever. What does he think. The party's future with progressive stars shaping. How issues are framed. But biden preaching moderation and a return to normalcy and as the chair biden's inaugural committee..
Top Trump officials sidelined after exposure to coronavirus
"Top Trump appointee, repeatedly urging top health officials to adopt a herd immunity approach to covert 19 and allow millions of Americans to be infected by the virus and fewer but still millions to die. That's according to internal emails that have been obtained by the House watchdog and shared with politico. Yesterday, the chairman of the House Select Committee, James Clyburn, released a memo in which we learned that top Trump administration officials repeatedly communicated about pursuing a dangerous herd Immunity strategy. As far back is June 2000 and 20. That's right. The Trump Administration was aware its policies would not only fail to stop the spread of the virus but would lead to an increase in cases and this is a direct quote from one of the e mails that were included. In this memo quote. There is no other way we need to establish, heard and on. Lee comes about allowing the non high risk groups exposing themselves to the virus. End of quote. The memo also includes an email from a senior Trump advisor Paul Alexander, who urged colleagues to suppress scientific information about the risk posed by the virus to minority communities that he admitted was very accurate. Have concerned that it would be used against the president. That's their concern. President. That would be risking people's lives so that Donald Trump didn't look bad. Ladies and gentlemen, that's exactly what that is. And then we wonder why we're in this section. We are situation we are in today. And when you ask many Trump supporters or trump cult members because they're out there or the president all look at what he did with the China banned, but they don't want to talk about stuff like this. Let's get back to the memo. Quote we go on and let our society open up Now, if hospitalizations occurring the young and they get severe illness, then that's a different story, and we will then have a huge mess on our hands now and a real nightmare. But that's not the case. As of now. Infants, kids, teens, young people, young adults, middle age with no conditions have 02 little risk which by the way is not true. So we use them to develop hurt. We want them infected and recovered with anti bodies. Quote. We want them infected. Are you kidding me?
Probe: CDC official says she was ordered to delete email
"New details revealed today from closed door testimony are raising questions about political interference at the CDC Democratic Congressman James Clyburn said today that a career CDC employees Told lawmakers on Monday that she had received a directive one she understood had come from CDC director Robert Redfield. That directive ordered her to destroy an email that came from a trump appointee. Email was a demand to juice data that supposedly made President Trump
CDC director allegedly ordered deletion of email
"South Carolina's James Clyburn heads a congressional committee that says it has evidence of attempted political interference by the Trump administration. At the CDC. South Carolina Democrat James Clyburn, who leads a select subcommittee on the coronavirus responses, released portions of a transcript of the Centers for Disease Control manager who says she was ordered to the lead an email By CDC Director Robert Redfield for political reasons. A response from health and human services accuses the House Democrat of not operating in good faith and sister. Portrayal of the testimony is irresponsible. Redfield says he instructed employees to ignore the email but did not order installation. The top Republican on the coronavirus panel. Louisiana Steve Scalise says Democrats have zero evidence of actual interference in CDC. Scientific reports
CDC director allegedly ordered deletion of email
"House subcommittee wants to speak with CDC director Robert Redfield. The panel says it has concerns about potential efforts by the Trump administration to conceal and destroy evidence of interference from political appointees. Chairman Jim Clyburn says career CDC official told the panel she was ordered to delete an email in which a health and human services appointee demanded that the CDC alter or risen truthful scientific reports he believed were damaging President Trump. The woman in question is identified as Dr Charlotte Kent, editor of the Noted Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. Spokesperson for the Department of Health and Human Services, accuses the subcommittee of not operating in good faith calling. It's characterization of the conversation with Dr Kent irresponsible. It says A full transcript of her testimony will show that she said there was no political interference with the mmwr process.
Los Angeles Mayor Chosen To Be Part Of Biden’s Inaugural Committee
"Month's presidential inauguration. Four days to go before they're swearing in. CBS News has learned. President elect Joe Biden advice President elect Kamila Harris are expanding their presidential inaugural committee Monday. They announced five co chairs to oversee planning. House Majority Whip James Clyburn of South Carolina will lead the group and also includes Michigan Governor Gray Should Wittmer, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, Delaware Congresswoman Lisa Blunt, Rochester and Louisiana Congressman Cedric Richmond, who will also serve as a senior adviser to Biden in the White House. Nicole Killian, CBS
Dems nominate Pelosi as speaker again to lead into Biden era
"Hi Mike Rossi a reporting Democrats nominate Nancy Pelosi as speaker again to lead into the Biden era house Democrats nominated California's Nancy Pelosi to be speaker for the next two years in a virtual meeting Wednesday hello see who became the first woman to be speaker in two thousand seven was nominated by acclamation the Democrats also reelected Maryland Steny Hoyer as Majority Leader and south Carolina's Jim Clyburn as the number three democratic leader all three were unopposed after losing at least ten incumbents in this month's elections Democrats will have a house majority of about two twenty two to two thirteen the smallest advantage in two decades Mike Rossio Washington
House Democrats set to nominate Pelosi for speaker in leadership elections
"Democratic leadership elections are today in the leadership team. Nancy pelosi steny. Hoyer and jim clyburn is expected to be elected without any challenge. People may vote against pelosi. But she'll win easily. Pelosi told john bresnahan. She's not worried about people voting against her. She said she's worried about closing out. Unfinished house races in new york iowa in california. She's also not worried about the january. Third vote where she needs to get two hundred eighteen. She said she's worried about getting ready for georgia.
Trump campaign sues to block Pennsylvania election result
"A turbulent campaign seasons now followed by a turbulent post election period with GOP lawsuits filed to challenge the election results not only is president trump not conceding to Joe Biden his administration's blocking agency officials from cooperating with the Biden team press secretary Kayleigh McEnany this election is not over far from it campaign lawyers have filed suit to block the vote from being certified in Pennsylvania on the grounds that Democrats are treated more favorably than Republican voters we wanted honest accurate lawful counts the president is tweeted out complaints about mail in voting in Georgia Nevada and Wisconsin prompting democratic congressman Jim Clyburn to say it is time to stop the campaigning the campaign is over Jackie Quinn Washington
Mitt Romney says Trump is 'a very different person' than past presidential candidates
"After his first appearance of the Nation as the President elect Joe Biden is ready for the work that lies ahead. Deputy campaign manager Kate Bedingfield tells NBC he saw the Biden Harris ticket gets the most votes of any presidential ticket in the history. Presidential politics. People are hungry for change. They want to unify. They want to come together. That's how President elect Biden is going to leave. The president says The fight isn't over Democratic Congressman James Clyburn on CNN they conceived, but I also think that the Republican Party has a responsibility here, Utah Senator Mitt Romney tells CNN. I just don't think you can expect President Trump to respond and react the way Uh, presidential candidates have in the past. He's a very different person than presidential candidates in the past.
Interview With Nina Turner
"You worked really closely with senator. Bernie Sanders on this last presidential run why do you think he lost? He was leading Close to the end and then everything stopped away. Why do you think he lost? Control of things there's never any one thing is you and I both know. When it comes to elections a certainly senator one Iowa is the popular vote people still. Debate that's going to throw that in there and we won. New Hampshire and we one Nevada in a fan five fashion in multicultural fashion, which was so exciting for this campaign, and then we get to South Carolina and beings change be part of it. Certainly was the the coalescence of the moderate wing of the Democratic Party. I mean I don't think it's any accident that. Mr Bujak got out of the race he was poll and really not just Poland his performance was us doing well, I think he was number two at that point in time and you got. Senator Senator Kosher got out of the race. So a lot of that coalescing of the moderate ruin going into South Carolina had an. Impact on our campaign? Yeah. I mean with Pete and amy, was there a third candidate they all who's third candidate and and don't forget I mean Congressman Clyburn you know put down in South Carolina he he was a really important. He's extremely important but with Pete and amy dropping out So close to Super Tuesday, it really changed the whole trajectory of the race. Are you supporting Biden. One of those I know that trump must go. So it is a binary choice at this point. anti-trump. That's. I mean I found myself just to be anti trump story because so many people are anti trump me that's really the Democratic Party's platform which I think is really the wrong way to go is it's it's you have to give people something to vote for two years. Later when fighting against neo-fascism no doubt. That point right there you have to give people something to vote for is sort of the core of the argument that I've been having with other Democrats throughout this whole process that a lot of people are saying we just want to get rid of trump and I'm like I'm Ashley with you but we also need to give voters something to vote for and in a moment when so many people are saying anybody but trump, why would you then go with a moderate? WHO's you know? Toward the middle of the scale when you could say, okay, let's then really change things in have a progressive who's truly going to have a revolution. Inquiry. Mayes wanted notes. Recount election I asked myself those questions a lot of course, many people reach out to me. They have the same questions especially because of the moment that we're in Kovic is exposed all the fisa jurors in our system it was already broken. A lot of people were already having a pan on regular basis. You know if you are black and poor if you're white and pork Brown and. Poor I mean if you just pour this pandemic, just revealed in a deeper way which you went through what you are going through every single day, and so you're right to combat somebody like Mr trump it takes his antithesis and I cannot even tell you how many folks since the primary have said to me. You know what s t you guys right because what Medicare for all having Fifty million in climate people who've lost their jobs and we know that healthcare for example is tied to one's employment. He got people who lost their jobs no fault of their own, a pet pandemic it they lost their job and Bingo. Now they lost their employer sponsored healthcare. So unless they're blessed enough to have a spouse or partner who has healthcare they. Right. So yeah it just doesn't make sense and push a moderate at this time when people need boldness the thing that bothers me about. What so much of this is I feel like it's a trade off in that a lot of people said Biden will get other people read. Suburban Republicans right. They will vote for bided and thus you sort of move the overton window over to the democratic. Party. Is kind of trying to make sure that Republicans are happy feeling comfortable to join the Democratic Party at least this one's. Rather than saying, we have these progressives don't take them for granted. Give them something. Right. But you know the Republican Party doesn't think about things that way they don't try to win Democratic voters but we're trying to win them over and and. In the success of a Biden. True. Democrats. The democratic wing of the democratic. Party. Loses out because even if he wins if his if his win is thanks to what the fringe of Republicans did in terms of coming across the over, then he doesn't need to pay attention to us and progressive issues he needs to pay into what they need. That's exactly right. The way you run is more like more than likely way you're going to govern. Though. It is a window into how the vice president. Will govern and it is going to take a movement of people to continue to push who knows a miracle could happen. But as it stands right now, based on what we know right now the policy positions he's taken you may remember he had an interview probably been about three months ago now, and he was asked by the interviewer if Medicare for all tasks and you both go, that would be a miracle epic, a necessary proportions, but it the past. Would you sign it? And he said he would not even in the face of a pandemic and so my suffering when it comes to lack of access to healthcare ninety, two, million people in this country are either uninsured or underinsured in that number continues to climb Toray so it doesn't make any sense and so the Republicans help you get over. Yeah. Those are the make book with for your entire term as president of. The United States of America meanwhile back at the ranch meanwhile back in rural America Urban America. Bourbon America with so many people are suffering because nope. Just because somebody lives in suburb doesn't mean not catching hale but the people who are catch inhale the poor the work important. Barely middle class what is where is the vision that provides pro vision for the people and because president trump is so bad. because. He is a clear and present danger. This is an excellent opportunity for the Democratic Party to go. Bold.
"clyburn" Discussed on Skullduggery
"Well, a number of physicians, not just neurologist think there may be at frontal. Frontal, temporal dementia or organic changes because the changes vocabulary syntax in the last ten twenty years this kind of cognitive decline that people talk about. Does it seem accelerated him, or is it the kind of thing that you that you often see with people as they move into their seventies for example, or is there something else potentially going on? We do see it because I. I certainly see it all around me and my peers. I an impatient, but you see it, so it's common defies being put in a box. Let me say something here I. Don't see anything wrong with diagnosing. Traitor are clearly diagnosed. The problem I see it was so many people would trump is there? It's a bad diagnosis. They personality is order doesn't take in all the elements. Like checking off a couple of traits, some of what you can find many people who are just very egomaniacal. Just follow themselves etcetera etcetera. What we're trying to say in this book is we have a better understanding of trump back in the nineteen seventies. When I was in psychoanalytic training, my training was different from my husband. WHO's a physician psychoanalyst and I was trained not to use diagnosis, I was in a medical setting. So of course I learned how to do psychiatric diagnosis, but the analytic training was to understand the person and to not use psychiatric diagnosis because DSM's change every ten years back in that day. It was the SNP. Than? Three, and then it was four and five, and it's changed, and it's going to change again so using psychiatric diagnosis. I think doses in an away because it. Like Michael says, it misses a lot of important things in understanding the person I've got one last question, which is how trump compares to previous leaders that we've had in this country, who may have exhibited some psychological issues I think of Richard Nixon who publicly. You didn't see it very much, but when we then listen to the tapes that came out years later you saw. Saw The brooding paranoia. All sorts of things that Nixon was largely able keep in check publicly, and so I wonder. Does that say something different about Donald Trump that he exposes himself in the way he does, or is it about our culture that we just start with twitter and social media just out there more. What does that tell you Richard? Nixon was authentic narcissists. A whole pattern that I have seen a narcissistic presidents of having a way, taller donkey notch identify was in a very strong mother. You see it in Ronald Reagan. You say don't consider him number early, authentic or absent. Even see it, Obama. That's not the way that trump is very different, and and Nixon was need productive narcissist. Real Vision Nixon was a visionary. Wants to China had the whole idea of creating Tom or the Russians. And with trying as and the also in many ways was progress in terms of health and safety hurting environment. He's so much better terms of any kind of policy in any kind of taking the problem of his paranoia in his narcissism did self, and he really shot himself so I would not compare if you feel what somebody who's more like trump look at bars Johnson in the UK. He's also marketing personality, so it's not just the hair. All right well, listen Michael and Judith. I WANNA! Thank you for your insights. The book is psychoanalytic and historical perspectives on the leadership of Donald Trump Narcissism and marketing in an age of anxiety and distrust Michael Judith. Thanks for joining us. Thanks to South Carolina Congressman James Clyburn psychoanalyst's Michael Maccabi and Judith look joining us on skulduggery. Forget to subscribe to skullduggery on Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcasts and tell us what you think. Libra review sure to follow us on social media at skulduggery pot. Talk to you soon..
"clyburn" Discussed on Skullduggery
"Michael Gough chief investigative correspondent for Yahoo News and I'm Dan Kleinman editor in chief of Yahoo News I have to say I had completely forgotten until when we were booking this interview James Clyburn staff reminded us that this is the fifth anniversary of that Charleston massacre, and in one sense, it seems so long ago like some sort of abberant action from the country's tortured past, but as we've seen over the last two weeks with the protests and the killing of African Americans by police departments, it is still very much with us, and that's the story of our tragic history with racism in this country that. Even as we see signs of progress, sometimes, they're just signs, and they don't actually reflect the sort of deep seated issues that we have been dealing with for hundreds of years in this country, and so at moments like this, which kind of forced the country to confront, it's tragic racial past you begin to examine these kinds of episodes and another one that is very much in the news right now and that you know. I think probably a lot of Americans are learning about. About for the first time where those terrible riots race riots in Tulsa, Oklahoma Ninety nine years ago when mobs of white people marauding through the streets, of Greenwood Tulsa the most affluent black neighborhood in the country terrorized and murdered up to three hundred people left fifteen thousand people homeless. Of course, this is the site of the first big rally that Donald Trump will be giving since covid. He had to move it from June nineteenth under pressure because that was June teeth the. The day that blacks in this country commemorate the end of slavery, but I guess the silver lining is that a Lotta people are learning about it. You know look the Tulsa. Massacre is so fascinating because you know look I grew up in the sixties I remember the riots in major American cities and Harlem Watts and Detroit and I don't remember learning about the Tulsa riots by whites killing African Americans in Oklahoma that was just not part of the American history books that I. I read or was taught in school. It's a reminder that our history changes constantly, and what we what we learned. Today is a very often what we forgotten many years ago. Clyburn look nobody's got greater moral standing to talk about these issues then James Clyburn You know the longest serving highest ranking African. American in Congress guy who fought for civil rights was arrested. I think at the age of twelve participating in sit ins in South Carolina and really interesting because. while. He's clearly as we'll discover clearly angry about what's happened with the killing of African Americans by police. He's also a measured voice and he knows what happens when the rhetoric gets too heated, and the actions go too far and hearing his kind of measured response is I think illuminating? He's also a hard, nosed Paul and a deeply pragmatic politician, and I think he understands that as inspiring as these protests are, and protests are clearly an important dimension of democracy that you also have to harness that energy and apply it to other forms of Democratic Action, including passing legislation and getting new policies. Put in place that. Reflect the kinds of changes that need to be made, and that is what he's focus on. That takes getting more Democrats elected and he's. Laser focused on that issue right? And he and he's worried about how some of the rhetoric and we'll talk to him about this about defunding. The police could be counterproductive for that goal. I think it's also worth pointing out that this is also the fifth anniversary, or this month is the fifth anniversary of the Supreme Court's historic same sex marriage decision, which seemed so momentous at the time it's it's kind of bizarre that it took place that both the Emanuel Ame Church killings and that Supreme Court decision took place the very same month and this month. We have the protests over. Over the police killings, and we just had another historic, totally unexpected supreme court decision about transgender and gay rights. Yeah, well, this is a transformational landmark decision. It is the first time that the United States Supreme Court has extended real civil rights protections under title, seven of the nine hundred sixty four civil rights act to gays and transgender people. People don't a lot of people don't realize that in I don't know twenty six or twenty seven states in the country you can be. You can still be fired for being gay or being a transgender person, well no more and people who. Who are cynical about our institutions and don't think that the laws can really be changed and. This is an example of of how nine people who wear black robes can make a really big difference in this particular case six. To three decision, but what's really notable surprising to use your word was that two of the most conservative justices on the court chief justice Roberts and Neil Gorsuch who replaced Justice Scalia and was regarded by conservative activists out there as a sure bet on these kinds of issues voted with the majority here so voted. Gorsuch wrote the Indiana and wrote the opinion, and I think it's worth noting that. He clerked for justice. Kennedy who in the past was the swing justice, but a conservative who also wrote all of the most consequential gay rights decisions including the gay marriage decision, so he's following in the footsteps of His of his mentor. They are I. Think the last thing I want to say about this. Is that at times of great crisis? In this country you put spotlights on the continuing issues that we are dealing with in terms of discrimination, it is probably worth remembering that progress and setbacks kind of move on parallel paths. Remind reminds us of that Martin Luther. King quote that. The arc of the moral universe is long, but it ultimately bends toward justice, and so for people who are depressed right now about the state of our country every once in a while, it's nice to see that there are some silver linings here and there well with that cosmic thought Let's go to our gas, too. I think has. Equally, if not greater cosmic thoughts about where we are congressman, James Clyburn, so let's get to it..
"clyburn" Discussed on Skullduggery
"He wasn't senior so I spent a lot of time. He was the good news about him was he was a thoughtful guy who really cared. I mean He. He had an hour to talk about the the fate of the world and he was pretty. Well read but I did not think I'M GONNA get in trouble here but he was. I didn't think he was the brightest bulb back. Then I just didn't i. Maybe I'm a SNOOTY urinating little journalists which. I'm sure I was so this is partly my fault but I. I just didn't think he was quick. I just didn't think he was clever or bright. I mean compared to say Gary Hart who I run into a fellow. Junior senator who is quick quick quick quick. I just didn't think he was A good good person. Yes but not that quick. So That's interesting because when you watch him today on the debate stage where he's a fades at times it's all day. I don't think it's all that you think it was always this way. I think he was missing. The you know he's what stumbling had verbal stumbles he has his. I think there's a medical term for logorrhoea which is needed talk too much. Have you ever watch I? I used to watch Danny. He'd probably to judicial confirmation hearings. Oh my God area just to sit through. You saw this and I did too not as much as you but I remember. I can't remember which just as it was. He wouldn't shut up he just he'd got on this kind of logorrhoea. Kinda diarrhea of the mouth. He just couldn't stop. I was at a four hour dinner just me in Biden in the executive part of a private jet on the way to Libya and he did talk for four hours. We're going to get to that in another soda. That's a whole show cast but it dinner. It is extraordinary. There are people who say I don't know if this is true but people who say that it is in some ways related to the stuttering because he has a chronic stutterer when he was young to overcome you overcome it and the way you overcome. It is by just talking through the problem. This is I find sympathetic and at this is the admirable job. Bud Guy Overcomes Obstacles toughs it out and the idea of him overcoming Stutter by VIBE. Willing himself to talk a lot. I loved that job. I thought the most moving thing I've seen a biden in this campaign was and this was when I think it was after New Hampshire. Maybe when he was kind of left for dead it was a CNN townhall And someone in the audience asked him a question about stuttering. I think someone who'd been a stutter and it was. It was incredible. So empathetic so moving. And you know a calm and I think that's authentic but also the retail politics that he practices is really amazing to so He's a he's a complicated guy and a lot of his. He has extraordinary political talents and then he has these these flaws. He's human. How does he Hold UP AGAINST DONALD TRUMP in general poor that's It makes me nervous. I mean I think I in the school. That trump is a genius. I know everybody thinks is a blithering idiot. But I don't I listen to him. He's a great talker he speaks. I mean he's only ten vocabulary words. It's a very narrow but I think he's a genius talk into a large section of the American people and I'm always reading the newspaper. The New York Times the first three paragraphs of what an idiot and a fool areas and then they will quote a little bit of think. Well actually pretty convincing and maybe not true but it's convenient. He's a great demagogue so he's a fearful competitor and I worry as a poem now. Disclosing them obviously Biden partisan here. But that he's GonNa trip and fall when he's up against a guy who's that good at demagoguing he just I don. I don't think back to I said earlier. I just don't think binds that quick and I didn't see him stubbing his toe. I agree I mean I think first of all I mean trump everybody will make such allowances for trump on all grounds and we expect him to say things that are screamingly false and distorted so if he does so in a debate. You know what's new about that? Yeah but by always be one gaffe away from disaster. We will all be waiting you know. So so there with his wife watching Joe's victory speech on Tuesday night and they're white knuckle. The okay quit now. Stop Joe You're good enough. Get off the stage. You know this kind of it makes you nervous at least large confusing his wife and his sister which was not a great story career saying it can be kind of winning and humbling and kind of dear but it can also be nerve racking to seem spit spit a sentence out in so. I fear that in a debate. He will get his feet tangled up. Well that's Going to keep everybody up late at night. I suppose going into this election but you know one thing which we can all expect is and we're already seeing signs of this. Trump people will keep coming back at Biden over Bris MMA hunter Biden and the corruption issue. And I just don't know if that to what degree that cuts in part because not because there are some legitimate questions there about Hunter Biden which I think there are. I mean he had no business taking that position on the board and Biden. Should've had the wherewithal to tell his son. Stay out of it. I'm in charge of Ukraine policy. You can't be making money off of what I'm doing in government but that said the corruption charge maybe doesn't cut as much with Biden as it did with Hillary Clinton because Biden doesn't seem that's not part of the narrative of what people say about. Joe Biden his Venal. You know his his messed up son made a stupid mistake but he's not I think there's going to be if if the trump campaign and trump himself comes at Biden with this I think there is going to be a very powerful moment at some point whether it's in a debate or in some other setting when Biden is going to say I lost my baby girl. I lost my wife. I only have one son left. What do you think? I'm GONNA DO TO THAT SON. You think I'm GonNa throw him under the under the bus and I think it's I think it's going to. It's not like trump sons. Don't have a few. Yeah yeah there are plenty there. Well anyway this has been a great discussion and Illuminating not just on your grandfather but also on Biden as well so great to talk to you guys all.
"clyburn" Discussed on Skullduggery
"I would point out that while I have not achieved many of the things I cared most about. I come nearer hitting the nail on the head of what? The people would adopt later than most candidates for president or other office. I Know Don Quixote it tilting at windmills when I was the pioneer on so much social legislation as the country now has that was norman. Thomas the Socialist Party candidate for president six times starting in one thousand nine hundred twenty eight. You were talking there on a firing line with William F Buckley in one thousand nine hundred sixty six making the point. That much of what? He advocated when he ran for president. In the Nineteen Twenties Thirties and forties would later be adopted by Congress and Future Presidents Worth. Remembering with all the talk about socialism in America and what the dangers could be. We are joined now by our old news. We colleague Evan. Thomas the grandson of Norman. Thomas the Socialist Emon welcome back to skulduggery great evacuees guys so when you hear your grandfather talking about how. He was a man ahead of his time in terms of pressing for social legislation. That would later be adopted. What's your reaction it's true. I mean he was just pushing for the welfare state and they got it. He was unpopular because socialism. The word socialism felt wrong to Americans in the nineteen thirties especially when FDR was offering the new deal and so he was considered to be a radical dangerous radical by some So he never got more than he got less than a million votes. I mean he got buried by FDR. He didn't think. I think I finished his high water. Mark and those six elections was two point two percent so he just got wiped out and so he was not politically successful in fact. Fdr said during the norm as. You're not a good politician in my grandfather answered. Well that's why you're sitting on that side. Does I'm sitting on this politician. But he was right about the welfare state I mean he was. He could see it coming. You know we're talking about child. Labor laws slum clearance housing for the poor and civil rights too. He was way ahead of the curve. Yeah I got here. The Socialist Party platform in nineteen thirty. Two which I think was the second time he ran for president. And you know by today's standards. It's pretty Milk does in a way compulsory system unemployment compensation with adequate benefits based on contributions by the government employers old age pensions for men and women health and maternity insurance improve systems of workmen's compensation adequate minimum wage laws the enforcement of constitutional guarantees of economic political and legal equality for the Negro Vote Socialist Man. It's all there so it. All it all got adopted eventually slowly but with one important exception he was also in favor of nationalising large industries the railroads and steel and all that that was a wrong. Wrong oh I mean. Fortunately we didn't do that and that would have been a mistake. So he was was pressured in some areas but on this area of nationalizing great sectors of the economy. I don't think he was right about that. And even Denmark the country that we all WanNa be is is pretty good about free market stuff but even Bernie Sanders not more recently but earlier in his career was in fate. When he was mayor and Burlington he was in favour of nationalizing. The public utilities are what are now ladies but were then mostly private nationalizing the oil industry and he moved away from that as well so you you knew him as a as a kid live near you tell us a little bit about him and he how how he came to be the six time socialist president a presidential candidate. He got there through religion. He was the son of a very strict. Presbyterian minister that believed in heaven and Hell and so it around. Nineteen hundred one. My grandfather was a theological student in deciding that he didn't really in the literal interpretation of the Bible. It left a hole in his heart. I mean once you don't believe in the Virgin Birth the resurrection and all that stuff I mean. What do you believe in? He's looking for a new ISM and it really came up through war in World War One. The church was he was by then an ordained minister. Though the Church was pro war he thought that was wrong and he thought the church was was kind of not paying enough attention to the poor and the dispossessed he was working in settlement house work in New York and really kind of crummy areas and so he felt church. Really not only did he not believe in the resurrection. Buddy also didn't believe that they are on the side of the poor and that they are on the wrong side on the war. All those things drove him into the arms of the Socialist Party which was anti war and pro poor people and so that was the road he took to get. There wasn't a thought it was on the wrong side of the way he was a pacifist pacifists during World War on December eighth nineteen forty one. He he changes tune on although his my namesake Evan. His brother remained a pacifist. Even a World War Two so the hardcore pacifists stick stuck with it but my grandfather didn't I mean he wants America been attacked. He was pro war and he was anti-communist as well. It is a little complicated because you think of Ms Pinko Socialist. But actually he was an early anticommunist because he saw that the Russians were selling snake oil and that they were really not good for individual rights. This is a little confusing from a guy who believes in state control but he was also a very big he was a founder of the ACLU and World War One. I mean back when Woodrow Wilson was thrown individual rights into the trash can free speech and all that my grandfather was. Roger Baldwin was started was that I called the National Civil Liberties Union but it became the American Civil Union so he was on on that side early on and he saw that the Kami the real commies the Russian commies or dictators and running secret prisons and so he was early. Trotsky Leon Trotsky said about my grandfather. He was a socialist as a result of a misunderstanding. What was the misunderstanding? He didn't get the dictatorship of the proletariat far but you you mentioned the ACLU. And I when I was reading up a little bit on your grandfather. There was an interesting split between Norman. Thomas and the ACLU because apparently I didn't realize this the ACLU actually supported Roosevelt's internment of the Japanese during World War. Two and your father was very much against it and Grandma's a strong civil libertarian. The ACLU for much of it in the forties and fifties was very wimpy. They didn't stand up to Joe. Mccarthy they were a week organization and they went along with Japanese interment. My grandfather's everlasting credit. He was one of the few voices and there were very few in nineteen forty two. Who said we cannot do this? We can't follow the Japanese into Internment Camps Edmark cut-rate determined camps. That was a very minority. Point of view Walter Lippmann all the big press. Everybody was so scared about the Japanese invasion that they were saying what in the Supreme Court Karma to said that You know you can do this. And a very very few people the. Us Attorney General was against it and a few people my grandfather but it was a small group. So you mentioned before that even though your grandfather's platform was not all that radical certainly when you look at it by today's standards the word. Socialism was a no no in the nineteen thirties. But I'm just wondering from today's perspective after Bernie Sanders not pretty lacklustre performance on Super Tuesday. If that isn't still the case. Oh I think it is. I think for older people like us because we remember I'm sixty nine about to be sixty nine. We remember when it was a kind of a scary word because it was associated with the Russians and state control and it got mixed in with all those things got a bad name in Great Britain where the Labor Party drove Great Britain off the edge of a cliff. So socialism didn't do all really. It was a economic Downer now since then these northern European countries have done pretty well with a modified version of socialism. So we're now looking at Sweden and Denmark and particularly Finland and thinking you know. Hey maybe socialism young people especially with and even people like me are thinking maybe that kind of so democratic socialism is not so bad as long as you don't screw too much with free markets that you gotta let capitalism go but the idea of having a big welfare state. This is a particularly appealing to young people. Like my own children. When we think about global warming you're going to have to have a big government footprint to do anything about global warming to do something about climate change the government's going to have to get involved big time and so that's one reason why. Socialism is not scary to young people. I agree I think the story here is Bernie. Sanders inability to win the Democratic nomination. We're hasn't happened yet but looks like that's where it's going is not a measure of how these ideas in our culture are not resonating. I think the fact that he got as far as he has suggests that younger people they really are resonating. I know that's true with my my kids as well as you say it's a split. I mean look. He did great with young people. Young people didn't really turn out as much as he thought they would But agree it's really there with young people. I feel with my own kids. You know this this big movement for a you know not just Bernie but but All that You know that that's on the other hand and this goes to Mike. Point older people not voting for Bernie and part of that is a memory. That socialism is sketchy. Were to them. If you're over the age of sixty five you can remember when socialism was was very the word. Socialism was enough to get my make my grandfather lose thirty two one so do you see Bernie Sanders as the air to your grandfather or are there differences in style and temperament that are worth noting the big differences in style and temperament yes Bernie. Sanders seems ordinary and angry all the time. Just hot an angry all the time if you watch My grandfather who we jokingly used to refer to as the red terror now if you watch him on on these clips you know. There's a more benign cast to him. He's a gentler soul. There's more of a merry twinkle. He could do this booming Isaiah Jehovah's stuff he had a big voice and he could he could lay on the moralism pretty thick but it was with that and always with that kind of gentleness that you don't see much from Bernie Bernie's just angrier than my grandfather was so switching gears a bit to the guy who looks right now like he's likely to be the nominee Joe Biden. You've been watching him for years. You're not quite as old as he but I covered them for a while. Yeah Allahabad because this is due date me in the early nineteen eighties. I covered Congress for Time magazine and in those days. Time magazine was important enough that a US. Senator was actually glad to see you. And he was a junior. Us senator but he was on foreign relations. I spent a Lotta time hanging around and Joe. Biden's office talking about the fate of the world because in those days reporting could get in to get in the door and he wasn't..
"clyburn" Discussed on Skullduggery
"Giving US another For years you're talking about if Bernie Sanders were to become the nominee would be a replay of George McGovern in one thousand nine hundred. This is what I feel. Now like Bernie. I'M GONNA have a problem with. I have a problem with these holiday. But I'm the majority whip and I kind of enjoy being majority whip and Anadolu Nothing. I was born with a certain book. Birthright German Arte political process giving me that status when you Endorsed or guest before you endorse you famously. Gave Biden at critique of his campaign and it has been described as effectively tough love. You were tough about what he needed to do. And how the campaign needed to change itself a tell us about your conversation with Biden. What part of a district with? You is what Molly I've said he knew very well. Forget motorcycle him than it has for me. And that's it with him this whole technique and I said as is the reason Medicine and I'm the son of one for each sermons in threes their sermons in threes. And not just a father son holder goes is all about what people remember what they can feel and I just told him that thought that his mission was fine platform great but people are not feeling him there were hearing him but not feeding them and you cannot develop that feel unless you connect with people looking at them and I just said to him. I want you no matter what the question is. Break it down in threes. Let them know what you Alexi would mean for them what it would mean for their families and what would mean for their communities. Just keep that those three things in mind so if the bait and someone asked a question by those three things how would it impact the person personally? How would it? Impact the person's family. How would it impact? The person's committed so that's basically and I just think that I went through some examples without talking about just his platform. Let's take healthcare Bit for the care and he is wedded to the fall. Came back so am I. He wants to see it. Move to the next level the public option so am I and I said to him. Look the civil rights that everybody talks about came to us of a eight year period. We pass back in nineteen sixty four. We didn't get voted to six five thousand Lonzo. Sixty within the outlaw discrimination. The public sector in applauded until Nineteen seventy-two so over eight year period keeps in the voting rights. So you got to send. We've got it for care now. We're going to try to get the public option Next and we may eventually get to a medicare for all but the system cannot absorb that and people understand that in one fell swoop. And so that's okay. So Joe Biden still has to win the nomination and then he's got a if he does go on and defeat Donald Trump and it's not going to be a cakewalk. I want to get into that in the second. One last question on the endorsement a lot of people have been wondering what if any role President Obama may have played behind the scenes rumors about conversations. He may have had. I just wanted to on the record here. Did you have any conversations with President Obama about the Biden nomination? Absolutely not okay so you have not spoken about absolutely okay. Do you think he ought to endorse in the primary? Would you want to see him? Do that endorsed Biden at the proper time. Probably should if we're going to bring this together. I think he's a pod. Bring it together but not today but which is. But but before Milwaukee now things are not until the. Walk it yeah. I'm sorry. I'm thanking Michigan. Michigan is before the before the Democratic convention. Should Barack Obama endorsed presumably? He would endorse our thanks. So you would like look this whole notion about having the brokered convention. Here's the problem. We agreed to do some things and this is a real problem. I have with the way we even do these primary elections. We're in the same. We're in because we allow our remember February. We never until last time around me created this primary window when our started the legislature said. We're going to be I no matter what you can go all the way back to December if you want to and we put ours in November. I think it's time for us to look at our part and said the hour. You're not your great state which is not a reflection of the demographics of our Party Surgical have gaunt number one half two number ones. Well let me talk about not being a IRA not being a reflection of this country but as the party. Okay right right okay. But this Democratic primary field expectation is Elizabeth. Warren we'll get out. You've got two white men who are almost eighty years old and in the general election. You'll have three. So what do I have to only one of those Septuagenarians going to survive too? Well sure right now I I still. I've got two teenage daughters at home And they're looking at this race and these look at these old white men and their you know. How do I tell them? This is progress well material with us. There's people like me said this. I don't care I'm nine years beyond the prominent I ask everybody. Would you rather have an old Thurgood Marshall sitting on screen or Young Clarence Thomas? That other two so Biden looks pretty good position right now. Do you expect this race to be over in the next couple of weeks? I would hope it would be Close a conclusion because as I said earlier be living on some rules that we need to get serious about doing out on a super McGovern Commission back in Nineteen after the nineteen seventy convention. And that's why I tell people all the time. You're the study bit. Devolution of this and you know why our system is so bad we need to change this because this thick retina the rules say. I cannot vote on the first round. If you go to the convention they took away The unplaced delegates again. No unplaced delegate. You'll give us that name. We didn't give out. Okay now. I'm unplaced all right now. I only get a chance to vote if it goes to a second ballot. So you're telling me we built into our rules a brokered convention now. So it's not broken if I can't vote into the second round that's what I get a chance to vote. Let me be brokering right. Look everybody in the Biden. Camp is breathing much better today than they were a week ago. But there's GonNa be a ferocious general election battle. Assuming Biden is the nominee and. I want to read you something. That Fox News is Tucker. Carlson was saying just last night about Biden to the cynical and darkly clever people who run the Democratic Party Biden's fading intellect is not a handicap. It's an opportunity. Joe Biden is weak. He's getting weaker. Ask anyone who knows or watch them carefully over the past. Fifty Years Biden is noticeably. More confused now than he was even last spring when he entered the race. Why is this good news for the democratic establishment in Washington because it means they can control him? This is going to be the critique of Joe Biden going forward from Fox News and the Republicans. Just watch what we do. The trump going forward. You Tell Zoom. I've told you I don't know what my potest do but I've done. Well no what I'm GonNa do and I'm GonNa tell you I won't be alone. We are going to play that game. But we're gonNA play it better. Tell us how you gonNA play that game. Look at the facts. Here's a guy who gives us through the Union contract Washington Post. Ho thirty one lives in the state of the union with everyone of these lies about half of them. The other side standing up cheering. Just think about that. Thirty second video with an obvious lie. Put the screen and watching all the Republicans stand up and cheer and zero in on the face of Mitch McConnell in this campaign for reelection down in Kentucky. Oh Yeah I got some great ideas as to how to play that game. Come the November elections. And I think I know how to play better than they do all right. So we're we're I think we're getting to that point in this campaign When people are GonNA legitimately start asking about veepstakes And so I want to know whether you think Joe Biden ought to pick a An African American running mate. A black woman perhaps What would you like to see him do in terms of a running mate doubt? Very seriously that you'll see Democratic slate this year without a woman on it should it be a person of color. I love for the person of color. Who's your new have a candidate? And that I'm not telling you mature attitude Comma Harris Abram Georgia or California but either of those. It'd be it'd be a woman I'm not. Yeah DOWN TO THOSE TWO. Have you have you? Have you discussed this with With Vice President Biden not not discussing. Vp's him congressman. You're known as a person who Speaks for civility in public life. So I want to ask you about some remarks that Senate Minority Leader. Schumer said yesterday outside the Supreme Court. I want to tell you gorsuch I wanna tell you cavenaugh you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price you won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions. Was that an appropriate thing for Senator Chamois. So the expedition if as reported. That's what is intent. Was that would not be an appropriate thing to say. I saw the explanation. I think it was a poor choice of words and talking about the Supreme Court or any other the explanation from Senator Schumer's office as he was talking about the price Senate Republicans would pay. But that's not what he said he right cabinet and given where the the tone of rhetoric in this country and what we hear from the president on almost a daily basis. Do you think that Senator Schumer ought to say something a little more forthright? Maybe get out there and apologize for those remarks about him will sometimes use a bit of probably Say thanks we should. We not acknowledge that when we do well. I'M GONNA leave it up to him I have my politics where I want to let him. Manley is but The fact remains rhetoric on both sides. Get too heated. Sometimes right and this would be an example of that. I'm not saying that. Yeah I mean look speak from us. I'm all right going forward. I understand You know the Biden wanted you to go to Michigan but you need some rest but will you be out there on the campaign trail in the forthcoming primary absolutely. I am book two of my daughters. I have three of them have said they detected stuff in my speech in in my eyes get some rest and I look back over the last couple of weeks and I have been going pretty pretty good so I just thought that I would give some risk this weekend. We we gotta let you get you out of here because you've got vote Up but I got one last question I know you have worked closely in the past with Senator Sanders. You worked on on some healthcare legislation. You guys asked right. Do you. Admire him there things about Senator Sanders that you admire sure. Yeah sure I love my grandson. He's twenty five years old. That endorsed Mayor Pete directly and was in his ads. So this is not personal with me. this is what I feel. The country needs at this particular torture and this is about who I think would be best suited to be president. So it's got nothing to do with personal Who then take anything personal with me. Thank you so much Carson Clyburn. We're really happy to have you on the show and good. Good luck out there on the campaign trail. Well thank you guys very much for having me. Thank you very good shortly after. We taped this podcast. Senator Schumer retracted. His comments. About Supreme Court Justices Gorsuch and cavenaugh saying I should not have used the words used yesterday. They didn't come out the way I intended to also right after this. Podcast senator warn dropped out of the presidential race..
"clyburn" Discussed on Amanpour
"I love everyone and welcome to Amman. For here's what's coming up what you need to know. About the corona virus outbreak as the global death toll policies. Three thousand then wave one big. Because South Carolina put Biden. Back IN THE GAME WILL SUPER. Tuesday keep in bed. I ask Congressman. Jim Clyburn about his powerful endorsement. Plus the Taliban has given a pledge in a very strong pledge. We'll see how that all works at the US and the Taliban's sign a peace deal eighteen years into the war so why is it already endangered? The Afghan Ambassador to the United Nations joins us and we have an opportunity to solve some of the immigration issues after the. Us border patrols. New Deputy chief lays out his priorities..
"clyburn" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"Is reporting some people go and scream about gun control sitting about more laws this is about a family that didn't do their job properly and more and more information is going to come out about this guy more and more information about exactly what the family was well what they were thinking or or better better yet what they weren't thinking if we don't immediately get into a conversation about mental illness from this then my goodness gracious and and and talking about how we deal with it i that would be more than i can have if if america let's this just go by the wayside and allows these gun grabbers just to make this about a hate the nra our conversation then you'll know for sure you'll know for sure what they're interested in it's not about people's health and then there's this from james clyburn james clyburn is a democrat from south carolina and james clyburn has in many different ways discuss the fact that the leadership of the democratic party is very old and very white and when people challenge for leadership of the democratic party they got shut down by nancy pelosi and steny hoyer and so what he told politico over a friday there over the weekend is if the midterms come and go and we're still in the minority all of us have got to go he's not talking about all the democrats he's talking about democratic leadership so james clyburn is now put out basically the gauntlet or as laid down the gauntlet or something with a gauntlet i'm pretty sure that evade on at least win the house never mind the senate then at least win the house then there's no purpose to having this democratic leadership everyone's gotta leave a new blood has to come in i don't think that nancy pelosi sees it that way i i really ensure down i'm pretty sure that nancy pelosi sees it much much differently but resist we much we must and we will much about that be committed.
"clyburn" Discussed on KSFO-AM
"Va whistle blower act the crackdown and as part of that the veterans appeal improvement moderization act and signed the va choice in quality employment act now those are all good steps more as to be done much much more with the va that that's far more than obama did with that just the whistle protection act and their ability to now hold people accountable were they can be fired now as soon as he took office he fired a bunch of people in the va that stop some of them got their jobs back that's no fault of his that ended up being unions and courts and everything else but the president did what was right net neutrality wasn't him directly but it's on his watch with is support one a here's guys we didn't he appoint one atlanta eight is going to appoint all of them because you still got nong clyburn blaming nong plc life gillette's jim clyburn daughter james clyburn nine the forever congressman from south carolina she has no history of telecommunications anything like that but she yorkshire for the fcc mm yeah she got her her job fair and square i'm sure so these are just some of the things that president trump is done from a conservative libertarian standpoint that's pretty solid any of the other failures of things like obama care could he have led moraad it could he have said we specifically need just a repeal used the bully pulpit more maybe but if you'd asked me a year ago two years ago three years ago my opinion on all of these how do you want to president role on this this this this and vote and rescind an executive order whatever i would have supported these at least with the obama care than he get the fine remove like you don't yes that will get find anymore right exactly there's that the teeth or out of it you still have to have it by law not find but you're not going to be fined anymore so that's out yeah so little bits i mean i'm wanting a grander statement of change but as far as president trump is gone when i look back at all of the stuff over the last year he has used his office with most of these actions.
"clyburn" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM
"James clyburn is giving me heartburn he is a very hot up democrat in the united states house of representives james clyburn is a longserving democratic congressman south carolina james clyburn as i if my if i'm if my math death is right now from counting right math death on james clyburn is the number three democrat on the house side so this nancy pelosi then this dude steny hoyer and then james clyburn and james clyburn is now confronting this issue of sexual harassment with john conyers and he is suggesting a separate standard for politicians which is giving me heartburn other man in other news face decisions and i'm out of the way resigned stuck down far faster than here friday harvey weinstein charlie rose math our who so is dinner because these elected who we elected him that's a member of the that's in fact several members of the media they got james clyburn and a group of aids and other congressman at an elevator inc in the capital and they said hey you heard them of your what about this and suggestions clyburn suggested that the people who who have been damaged who have been a had their careers destroyed who have have have been exposed like harvey why seats criminal investigations people like harvey weinstein they're not politicians they didn't get elected anything suggestive clyburn is suggesting it's the voters that get to decide these things at the end of the day i was suspected nancy pelosi is going to have to explain what is the third of difference between now frank and and john conyers that is arnold read he's the attorney for congressman gone years and so he sees taunting nancy pelosi saying if you want john conyers twer to quit while then you've gotta get al franken out of their individual such as the congressmen have a right to due process and have a right to defend themselves that is a read the attorney for congressman conyers and remember what he just said can't roy more say the same thing individual such as the congressmen have a right to due process and have a right to defend them sale well debt karoi more say people like the judge ever right to due process the right to defend themselves i'm asking again what's the standard and can we apply one standard all evenhandedly and i love james clyburn i'm a big fan of james clyburn i've been a big fan of jim clyburn for years will you can disagree with.
"clyburn" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"There's so much more to get into all right so this the other situation james clyburn me pull this out because it just gets worse and worse holed up so jayme john james clapper john conyers seems clyburn was defending john conyers john conyers nancy pelosi i guess decided that he wasn't an icon anymore and he is uh he she says he's he needs to resign she says look you've got to resign you gotta go because you're you're a man ho and you paid used taxpayer dollars for your man hope ness and so now and james clyburn even came out and he was defending he was he was defending john conyers and he said that he actually suggested that though if you're elected that you should face a different set of standards and if you're not he was asking he goes other me this is his direct quote quote other men and other industries have faced similar accusations that's what he was well first of he was asked this um and they've gotten onto the way they resigned they've stepped down harvey weinstein charlie rose matt lauer and they said white know they were asking why is it different for for john conyers clyburn response quote who elected them and the another question was that so it's different because he's elected but the elevator doors closed before clyburn could respond so quite position is that because john conyers was elected that makes the different i mean you know their special resign stepped down part faster than here right harvey weinstein.
"clyburn" Discussed on KKAT
"Crime now back to james clyburn back the james clyburn up there on the drudge report he linked to this story i never would have seen at the state they south carolina statewide newspaper cames clyburn has the number three at democratic course my damn computer freezes when i need to read that damn article while maybe we won't get back to jim clyburn or we'll get back to my little bit not everybody saying to yourself you believe this i can't work hold on a second now folks here we go i want to get to this bomb hot about it are here we go james said clyburn in a video posted on twitter the seventysevenyearold clyburn has walking to an elevator but congressional black caucus chairman cedric richmond democrat louisiana when asked other men in other industries have faced similar accusations we have this let's play it cut four go further in other industries the faced similar accusations i'm out of the way resign stepped down far faster zinni brian todd harvey weinstein shortly lows lin so is different because he is elected who elected them you don't understand were elected we answered to a different law our own law but it was more than that there was more than that writer for.
"clyburn" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"Correct is that a high people and we need to be aware of this all times let me take you through the words of congressman clyburn because congressman clyburn yeah you might not know rep clyburn maybe you're not familiar with his with his own history in in the house the congressman from south carolina james clyburn is his name c l y b u r m well here's everything you need to know when he compares president trump to hitler tool a business group hilton several weeks before the election there were also common was a replay of what happened in nazi germany the fact of the matter is hitler was elected as chancellor of germany mabrouk i'm a dictator until later when people began to be in influence by his foolishness we just elected a president and he's got a lot of foolishness and i'm the for too many people will be an influence of that foreigners so what we've got to do now is step up and say we are not going to allow any one person to misuse of election to abuse the process and then turn this country back on this here congressman you have to calm down sir you have to calm down sir now if we're going to discuss foolishness okay i got a lot of presidents ride you discuss a lot of foolishness bad ideas ridiculous i've kashmira clunkers foolishness if we could be so bold apologize and around the world are george bush saying that he went against the free market to save the free market there's a lot of foolish just read my lips no new taxes man i got risk up the wazoo the yangyang we can go up i did not have sexual relations with that woman ms lewinsky i got foolishness that will go on forever and for ever but you don't compare hitler it's insulting it's disgusting it's beneath contempt it is you can't sit on one side of the aisle or the other and somehow think.