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"clark clifford" Discussed on 77WABC Radio
"I'm John Baxter. This is the John Bastard show. I welcome Ambassador Dennis Ross. His new book The is entitled Doomed to Succeed. Subtitle tells the US Israel relationship from President Truman. To President Obama, Dennis Very good evening to you. Congratulations for this, And your book is comprehensive and gripping because in here is those 70 years told from the point of view of peril. Perel following the second war with the depredations visited on all the peoples of Europe, but the Holocaust on the Jews of Europe and what is to be done with the changing map of the Middle East already influx after the first war here again after the second war. The nightmare of putting it all back together in a world that's so did dislocated. So we go to a scene that you've emphasized in your book may 12th 1948. Present in the room, the president of United States, Harry Truman, and the very critical and heroics Secretary of state former General George Marshall Clark. Clifford is also present as a domestic adviser. They're arguing over something that is going to happen in I think 48 hours, which is the vote at the U N to create not not to you. N What's going to happen in 48 hours is that Israel is about to declare itself estate. Because the British mandate is about then the British are going to withdraw it made at midnight, the beginning of May, 15th. And so the concern is that Israel will the Jewish community in Palestine will declare itself estate And that's what the meeting is about What the U. S do if it does, all right, we plunge right into it. The president lays out his position which looks to be fixed. The president's made a decision and emotional, intellectual decision. To support the state of Israel and also to advocate for the transfer of 100,000 displaced persons to the Middle East. George Marshall, the very famous secretary of state opposes what is his thinking, Dennis? Good evening to you, and congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Um, his thinking is that this is going to be disaster for us with the Arabs that if we do this, we're gonna produce unyielding in an unending enmity from The Arab states will our position in the Middle East will simply be destroyed. And so we shouldn't do this. We shouldn't We should try to if they used the clearest state. We shouldn't recognize. Uh and the president has Clark Clifford in who is a domestic political counselor. And he's the one who's then begins to make the argument against Against Marshall, in a sense, an argument in favor of recognition. Marshall is very upset and shows it. In fact, he makes a declaration. You quote. If this was an election, I wouldn't vote for you, Mr President that is stunning, but given martial stature in the world at this point This is the man given credit by everyone for having won the second war, both both theaters that statement what is his what is the basis for his refusal to follow his president's lead? What's striking about new and you captured well, because obviously, I I described the scene. The scene is one of which Marshall has gone through and argued for why that shouldn't be done. He also has his undersecretary there. Robert Lovett, who says that and another reason we shouldn't do it is because we shouldn't recognize them as a state is because They're going to be all these socialists. We're going to be there and they're gonna basically be an outpost for the Soviet Union. Oh, and and the answer to that comes from Clark Clifford, who says that's ridiculous. They're about freedom. They're not about subjugation. They're going to be the last ones to be. Porting the Soviet Union. And he begins to go through and debunk each of the arguments that has been made by marshal about how this is going to produce. Unending enmity will, he says, You know, the Arabs can't drink their oil. We can't look like we're giving in to threats. No one's going to respect us if we do. And Marshall is, you know, the more these arguments are made by Clifford the more angry martial becomes, and that's when he finally explodes and says If I were to vote he's a five star general is the only five star general we've ever had. And as a military man he had chosen like many of his counterparts, like many of his colleagues. Not to vote to be a political in that sense, So that's why he says If I were to vote in the upcoming election, you were to make this decision and recognize them. I wouldn't vote for you. And that just cast a pall over the meeting. The meeting comes to an end after that. Truman says, Well, General, I'm inclined to agree with you and the meeting breaks up. Oh, and Clifford is kind of disconsolate. And Truman says to him why you're so you know why they're so down. He says. Look, I failed you and Truman says You didn't fail me. You weren't goingto no one was going to persuade. What happens at night? Interestingly enough is that love It goes to see Clifford because he's disturbed if he doesn't want there to be a breach between the secretary of state. And the president. So the two of them work out that the United States won't recognize a Jewish state because nobody knows at this point was actually be called, won't recognize the Jewish state. Before it declares itself and Lovett says that basically says to Clifford well We were concerned that you would you recognize it before it even declared itself not to mention We didn't want you to recognize that even afterwards. That's how this ends up being settled. Just Dana Mark to this is that when Marshall is asked by his staff Well, what's it going to do now? Because President has gone ahead and recognized. Marshall says. Well, he is the president got elected. He has a right to make a decision. So Marshall rationalizes going along with it, even though he had made this quite emotional statement and obviously had argued strongly against a recognition of the state in that meeting in 1948 for the next 70 years. We will see that argument repeated again and again. That's what you find in Dennis Ross is book doomed to succeed medalist Rationing administration doesn't matter. The politics doesn't matter. The world events doesn't matter the scale of the Cold War. We'll see it repeated. And we'll make it very clear now because Dennis closes his case, and we're going go through these presidencies with lessons learned a lesson learned is that there is a cost to cooperation with Israel. That's the lesson that's repeated. Each administration some believe it some. Don't some president sign on. Some do not And one of the corresponding aspects of that cost. If you sign on to it is we must distance ourselves from Israel in order to gain favor with the Arabs, or we must resolve the Palestinian and Israeli conflicts in order to solve the Middle East. That will come later, when they're, as is such a thing as a Palestinian Ah Palestinian organization that presses the case. But that one about cost Dennis it's it's almost as if Marshall's ghost And Robert Lovett, the undersecretary of state and the other's in state department, at the time,.
White House or Fight House? Tevi Troy’s new book looks at tiffs and turf wars among White House staffers
"With us and we're gonna talk about that you know the fussing and fighting vet says going on in the White House and don't think for a second that that's exclusive to Donald trump's administration you know it's kind of interesting anytime it's its whatever you're closest to write in history and other things they have to be the worst you know and so Donald Trump his administration's wise it just has to be the worst all the fussing and fighting in in fighting that's going on like no other president before well before you really jump that shark and think that that is the case then you start believing you're hyperbole I once you get your hands on this new book called White House from doctor Tevye Troy bestselling author and former White House adviser okay he's been on the inside he's known as and researched and studied this and he's right about now with his book White House rivalries in the White House from Truman J. trump Dr Troy welcome to the show good to have you with us thanks bill Bradley on talk about played out hello this is this is it this is exciting you know that you know to put this out because you know this conversation has come up from time to time and you always hear from you know the hyperbolic that downhole trump is the worst ever and then you you start bringing back some of the the stories and histories and now here it is you've documented it I imagine if you wanted to go back even before Truman we we have to do episodes inch you know volumes of all the fussing happening in the White House right no absolutely and and we know that they were fighting before experiment where we are perfect I mean you look at the administration of Washington and Hamilton and Jefferson murder each other's throats but the difference is they were cabinet members and when I try to get that in my house how the dynamic change once we had the creation of a White House staff there was no real White House staff before Roosevelt and Truman the first person to enter the White House staff and make change the dynamic in that certainly you have the people who are close to the president meaning in the same building advising him on foreign policy and economic policy and then you might have a treasury secretary or spectators biggest ticked off that somebody else is inviting in his area that was one thing that changed in that that meant that I wasn't quite interesting to note that that the dynamic in the entrance of more humanity just because the more issues right yeah look and government was growing mistake became higher and then also you have this right the best celebrity White House aide the whole idea of a White House staff was supposed to be people with a passion for anonymity but that went away pretty quickly especially in the Kennedy administration when he hired people who are already famous like orcas lessons or to work in the White House is suddenly how celebrity White House they had its own reputation has long ties to the craft and they they could get their word out there if the policies were not going their way and to suddenly you have this idea of leaks and counter leaks you can make you look good in the press and that also at the White House right now make that I talk about the book in the course that is continued and become almost like a to the degree of a tender green black belt when you talk about all this and leaking and stuff going on you know but bad enough that it happens in DC but now of course with the most recent refill we understand that even ambassadors in our state department is running rampant with it as well yeah well you talk about ten degree black belt and that that was Henry Kissinger I'll tell you one great story that's been quite how's that Kissinger was dating Jill St John a very attractive bond girl actress Mandy comes out in the papers that Kissinger's dating this woman and Kissinger ghost and extending complains that his rival Christy William Rogers leaked the information about your retaining but the truth is that your lease it because a he wanted everyone to know he was dating that the truck the bond girl would be he wanted to hurt Rogers any internal wars and bribery deposit so what happened what was it what was the conclusion that well well written exam would rail about all the leaking that happened at the state department and constant complained about it but just not your fat it but at least some of the time we know the kiss your will the guy doing the leaking and then blaming the state department and of course everybody knows because your date of birth second longer up there with a win win corrective measure like you would can degrade black belt in Plato's exactly so he gets the he gets the reward and the award let's talk about president Truman we touched a little bit on that I mean he he he was I guess the modern era of the expanding the staff and and really kind of bringing this into play and of course it's just been kind of kind of a a monolith that like the blob is just been growing unto itself right yes Sir but instrument you have the right there were just unbelievable I don't I'm a presidential historian I've been putting this stuff for decades and the story behind in spite house were were things I'd never even heard of and one breaks during the ministration is that the secretary of state George Marshall as opposed to the recognition of the state of Israel which is flabbergasting to update the business interest on July especially right there at that critical time because it was true and that led the battle for inferred knowledge meant of Israel that would that would be very fight with marshals on the wrong side of it Clark Clifford a junior White House beat it on the right side of it make an argument in front of Clifford Clifford and Truman and Marshall are all arguing out in the White House Clifford wins the argument Truman recognized Israel Marshall is still mad that he never again the clippers or mentions his name for the rest of life right yeah right because so it's pretty petty but yeah such as such as you can't be the government the illusion of the Kennedy Camelot regime you said was not devoid of conflict as well of course in Kennedy do you have this notion of Camelot music wonderful people sitting around a table can you never even heard the term Camelot elections administration that comes from our interview that took place after the administration after he was dead yes but even in the administration there was fighting taking place especially between Lyndon Johnson and Robert F. Kennedy canteen was the product any would be turned general and the president brother Lynn Johnson vice president that you hated each other going back to their time in the Senate together when we can't even the lowly staffer and Johnson with the Senate Majority Leader and they had these nasty nicknames for him brought Robert if they reported Johnson is ruthless corded phone and get a canny referred to by Johnson as bunny boy really didn't like each other and they're always trying well anyway and we've known that that that tension what is it was pretty extreme there between them what else within the Kennedy at Camelot compound anything else that you discovered yeah there was a a a a rivalry between artists less intervention before they collect their prize winning historian who came to the White House when the first intellectual ever worked in the White House and then there was Ted Sorensen it was not as well known but he was closer to Kennedy and there was tension between them that continued even after the administration because the two of them we're kind of bracing to get their books out first hand stories then asked her to stop and stop writing his books but it's different in different book out first plus you're obviously would not agree and there were and the race was on and it it colored their relationship there's tension between them that went on for a long time and I got to imagine especially after the assassination these rivalries it would increase all the more would they not yeah and if there is one great story that dean Rusk with the sector state did not like that Slazenger called him brutalized in silence in meetings during the Kennedy administration implying that he wouldn't say anything that's a rough put it out there the only reason he was silent in meetings this lessons are within the facilities are respected leaker and we would talk about everything that he heard needing three wins Mr this is this is great fun Dr Chevy try I'd say it's good fun because you know the politics is just right for comedy it's it's when we take it too seriously like at times we're doing right now in this current environment then we deprive ourselves of of the little bit of humor in thank you Dr drive for presenting
"clark clifford" Discussed on On The Media
"And then Finally, I said to them would you like to see the papers? I opened up one of the boxes handed him one of the monographs. He flipped through it. Like you flip through a deck of cards with his thumb and he threw it back into the box. And he said, and I quote, take them back to the Pentagon. Do you think he ever read them? I have no idea. I spoke to many times over the years, and I never asked them. And he never said he was replaced by Clark Clifford as secretary of defense Averis sort of blue blood lawyer who had virtually no foreign policy experience. And by the way, we thought Clifford was sent to the Pentagon by Johnson to sit on people like us who had begun to ask questions about the war at the White House. Didn't like Caughlin sense this right away and laughed and said in a realize I've been against this war since nineteen sixty five. What did he think of the domino theory? That was the reason why he became a dove and sixty five long before the rest of us foreign policy experts caught in the trap of our thinking Johnson had sent him to talk to the Asian leaders about sending more troops to fight the. War, and none of them would give any troops and so- Clifford said I thought to myself. Well, if the Domino's don't think they have to fight to say themselves what the devil wheat doing time. You were assembling what became the Pentagon papers? It was already known to the secretary of defense and to the president and possibly to you. If he were sending that Information Daily to the press secretary that the war was not going to be one. Well, there were some people who thought it could be one not the president and not the secretary of defense. That's correct. And yet they felt they had to continue to send battalion after battalion into the field to die though question about it. But I think Walt Rostow Dean Rusk continued to believe that we still could pull this out. But I think most people by sometime in sixty eight k more to believe that we couldn't afford to lose. They continued to send soldiers into it not to lose to maintain a strange balance of power in the world, but domino theory, bankrupt notion as it later came to be believed, but at the time most people in government believed that the story has been put out of the Pentagon papers show. They're all lying, but while the paper show some lies the main mess. Sage is that our leaders from Truman on woods did know hardly anything about the at Phnom into China. They were ignorant, and it also shows that foreign policy community believe that if we lost Vietnam the rest of Asia would fall and that was kind of a given here. We're talking about all this stuff, and, you know, far more than the average informed person about the Pentagon papers. And you're surprised by my answers. That's precisely why we called you less because there are popular legends about the Pentagon papers. And you think that they convey a false narrative. Now you concede. There wasn't enormous amount of lying about numbers, constant statements of optimism. There was the Gulf of Tonkin incident. I didn't even know that book, by the way, the Tonkin Gulf until I saw the. Actual negatives of the pictures taken during the shooting. Contrast, the story we were told in what you saw what the American people were told in nineteen sixty four was that North Vietnamese boats attacked American ships in the Tonkin Gulf area, and that our ships fired back, but what I found out when I actually saw the negatives of the pictures taken during that night that showed our ships firing guns and note small ships firing guns at us. I was astonished confusion in the Gulf of Tonkin initially and later outright deception enabled president Johnson to affect a huge escalation in that war. That's right. The it provided the public justification..
"clark clifford" Discussed on WMAL 630AM
"Together catastrophe Vietnam for the United States for generations, the greatest generation quiet generation, which was the officer class and the boomers my lot. Ooh. Served in the war or did not serve and are haunted or are not haunted by these events. The professor now teaches young men most of whom are born in the twentieth century, but you're about to get the first century entirely as a naval academy. Right. And they are looking to these lessons. Much the same way. Say teddy Roosevelt looked to the civil war. When he was a child he wanted to know what went on there. And so the lessons learned here are far more significant than the prosecution, although professor it does come to me now. And again, what the trial of Lyndon Baines Johnson. Would look like because there are decisions here. He loses the war. He's a war criminal. What was it three and a half million deaths in the end the best guesses? At least a bit north of three million Indochino. Chinese lives were lost in the war. Fifty eight thousand Americans died. Hundreds of thousands were wounded the human carnage and suffering then and now to this day is incalculable loss aversion sunk costs, and now we come to McNamara's breakdown. It's a slow motion breakdown. He he he goes through what looks to be a nervous breakdown. Did they see it that year sixty six did they see it? Did they see it pouring out in front of them? I think it was a most certainly a process rather than an event I think that he wrestled with the limitations of America's ability to prevail militarily in Vietnam. Then he wrestled with sacrifices that his decision making precipitated he sought desperately to validate that sacrificed by continuing to find a way to make the effort work. I think eventually by this spring of nineteen sixty seven he began focusing not on sunk costs, but prospect. Tive costs. I think that was an important transition for him because I think by the spring of sixty seven he began asking himself these questions, which is when will it ever end? If I encourage the president to add more troops is that simply coin to escalate and intensify the magnitude of the conflict without turning a corner. And I think eventually he came to the conclusion is he told his successor privately just days before he leaves the Pentagon. This is a quote is February of sixty it is out of control. He told Clark Clifford. This war is out of control. I hope you can get a handle on it. They're poor intelligence on the fo is astonishing. I did not know this. We did not know this at the time. It's not hokey men. That's what we chatted. It's Li doin on late one. Who's a southerner? Why is that important? He had essentially replaced Coachman is the decisive figure in the bureau and had no way late nineteen sixty three and what's decisive about that is that at least one being a native southerner add an emotional attachment to the reunification of North Vietnam, South, Vietnam. There was more intense. I think than the of ho who was a native tonkinese and host fixation was on the unification of the country. Yes. But I think he preferred to cheat that unification a through political and diplomatic the way he's done in fifty four. Yes. And if that didn't work, then he would rely on the military advice of his Lieutenant General Jap who was an expert at the prosecution of guerrilla war against militarily frozen out by laser von and his cohorts essentially muscle Jap out of the decision making process, and they were irreconcilable they were determined to reunify the country playing as much military forces for as long as necessary injury victory victory. Total victory at whatever human cost, right? And the cost was significant whereas South, Vietnam and all this. I have one note from the professor the eighteenth division of the army of the Republic Vietnam in one thirty day period. Fifty more than fifty to one hundred patrols thirteen contacts. The enemy. Well, we had here was a completely dependent and indifferent ally. The problem is structural and institutional in the sense that the South Vietnamese army had been built along lines defined by I the French. And then later, the Americans and the officer corps, the South Vietnamese army not in all cases. But in many cases were those who had chief there. Commissions in their higher and higher ranks not through what they knew. And what they could do and how good they were fighting war. But who they knew? It was not a system of promotion based on merit and our CIA reported that they do about it. Yes. That information was available to McNamara and Clark Clifford and McGeorge Bundy McGeorge Bundy is gone in sixty six but it's to them, and they do not respond. Well, I think by that point the painful irony is that the tail is wagging the dog. Yeah. Okay. And that's since we're so firmly on the hook there that are South Vietnamese allies understand that completely. And as Clifford once put it, privately they are enjoying a golden avalanche of American military economic aid, which makes them a early dependent on us and be without any incentive to stand on their own. If you cross out Vietnam and write in Afghanistan, you understand what we're looking at right now. Fall of sixty seven those privilege, college students engage and the marches surprising to me are heard by Johnson. He's intimidated by them. Remember, he's a fundamentally political animal whose political in ten or very sensitive. I think he understood that the esscalation in protest against the war, which by the way correlated in equal measure to the growing louder demands on the part of the military for more troops shows him that the war is polarizing American society. This driving those who support the war further to the right and those who oppose the war further to the left he and McNamara in his administration, occupy the center the center is collapsing. The centers. Collapsing and McNamara is getting out we now move to McNamara's last day. You can't write this any better. The elevator breaks as they're going down from his office as elaborate secretary of defense office in in secretary country. It's raining. He's hatless the band is there to wish them, farewell. The the microphone breaks Johnson is in a cowboy hat. It's all going through the ceremony. And MacNamara departs. I get the picture of a broken, man. But he went on to successes, and it was his plus it was almost it was almost at the end of his life that he published his notes his his book, and he went on a tour apologizing how long had you been cooking that apology did he know in February of sixty eight he had supervised a catastrophe for the country. Yes, I think that I had co authored McNamara's auto biography in retrospect, I worked very closely with him during that period of time. And I haven't talked about a written about my relationship with him and told this book. Mcnamara was not only analytically very astute but emotionally he was very sensitive. He grasped quite well the human cost of the decisions to which he had so much to contribute. It burdened him enormously tormented him. I think he felt great guilt. But he came from a generation of Americans for whom maintaining the facade of stoicism was paramount. You do not wear your emotions on your sleeves. And he told me something once in private that. I will never forget, I understood it's sort of at the time. But I understand it more and more. They'll.
"clark clifford" Discussed on PRI's The World
"So you check off some of the boxes, wealth, celebrity friends, do you feel like you really understand it a deeply personal level, the intense anger that that led course kidding. I mean, look, I've got elected five times the United States Senate and look at the things I fought for as if Senator because I was the guy who blew the whistle on Ronald Reagan and Oliver North and the contras and I was the guy who took on BBC. I the corrupt Bank that was laundering Noriega's money and and took on Clark Clifford and major people in the party. I have nothing to be. I'm, you know, I'm proud of my record as an outsider in Washington who was willing to fight. So I'm not gonna you know, I don't feel any need kind of debate it. Now, the mere fact that you come from wealth and I will come from that much wealth ninety there. I've got relations who are a lot wealthy and I are. I am, but but I had a privileged upbringing. No question about it. But guess what? I've. Always lived. And that's why it says every day is extra the title of the book because I've always lived by the notion that if you're given a lot, you owe ally. And that's why I went into the service. That's why came back and forth against the war. That's why I've been an environmental leader in any number of ways. And and you know, I'm very comfortable with my willingness to stand up and speak to the power and take on the establishment when it's necessary. Do you have friends or colleagues who voted for Donald Trump and detached with them about his presidency? Yeah. I mean, I have people, of course, I, I know people about if Donald Trump and I understand why they did. They did it. Some people who are you know, true conservatives voted for him for the supreme court for exactly what is happening now. That's why they voted for him and many people, you know, I know disliked him, didn't trust his policies, but felt they didn't then trust Hillary, either some of those people. So you had this back and forth. In addition, people voted for him because they thought the system was broken. In enough that he could throw a few ranches in, you know, into the system and twist it and make some things happen. I think many of them are deeply surprised by the degree to which this presidency is chaos presidency on a daily basis. What comes after Donald Trump? Do you think if we are in an era now of America, I, what is the post Trump era going to be about? It's going to be about re dressing the mistakes that he's made over the course of look. Do you know a constituency that is asking to have smog back in our cities? Do you know a constituency that wants to have more carbon dioxide and Monica coming out of automobiles? Well, knowing why he's lifting it, he's lifting those restraints. So I see all of that being reversed. I see us hopefully having a correction in forty, whatever it is. It is when we have the midterms and then we go on and have a really important correction in twenty twenty. No one wants that smog, but they wanted Donald Trump to be president so they could drain the swamp and not have to think about these big things..
"clark clifford" Discussed on The Weekly Substandard
"Contract somewhere to get some sort of like, you know subsidy from wherever they were filming that the movie has to show on at least one hundred screens around the country. So you don't think next week it's going to expand three thousand? No, I don't. I don't think this is kind of Casey, okay. But the talent in this film is staggering Lee Jones and Robert Redford and you know, it's like it's like a real who have really serious liberals trying to trying to relitigate the two thousand three campaign to go to war with Iraq. I mean, it's like guys focus on other things. We got other things to worry about a better version of that kind. Of a movie was HBO passed to war about LBJ. Do you remember this one and Alec Baldwin plays McNamara and Michael gambon played for Michael gambon, please? LBJ and Clark Clifford is done in Sutherland, and it's fantastic trust me on this one generalists, Tom scared, really, really good that is on the Bruce McGill, Bruce McGill Zenit as Michael ball, I mean, is a George ball rather just personal in the post as well as MacNamara I hadn't. No, that was Bruce Greenwood upper screen. That's right. That's right. But Bruce, yes, but skyscraper, as I mentioned came in third place, so that's a little disconcerting. Jay z. yelling the heights shave. You'll did you see it pretty good study? I did see it. I thought to did anyone else know maybe. Okay. Somebody it here. In his farewell swats Lord. How sunny you are better at the Lucille? Blue Jean, can you give it to me. Skyscraper stars, the rock who plays a security specialist.
"clark clifford" Discussed on Skullduggery
"Deeper had left the white house he was now out in the private sector cohen while he's collecting these big bucks crumb all these companies and other interests that had business before the government was still the personal lawyer for trump so there was in in some ways much closer connection to trump than even deeper had with reagan maybe i think what we're seeing and maybe this is the true the true crime here is the slow but steady degradation of the standards and dignity in the in the influence peddling business you know where have the standards gone they used to be so good at this a long way from clark clifford and and tommy the court corcoran but but look you know you saw we had the news the additional news this week that some companies did draw a line cohen called up ford for instance another company well right that trump had criticized on the campaign trail and tried to hustle their business and ford turned turned him down so apparently did uber so and that is you know one of the mysteries of this whole cohen episode which is why these you know blue chip corporations would fall for some guy like michael cohen yes he has a relationship with him but you know you can it just you know it just screams amateur hour and that this is just gonna come back and bite you if you hire a guy like michael cohen to try to get access to donald trump and it's sort of head headscratching why they would have ultimately done this now maybe maybe what happened was these companies are used to doing business with american presidents who operate according to a certain you know set of rules and standards and norms and all of a sudden you have donald trump who's totally unpredictable you have no idea what he's going to do or say or tweet and any given moment and that makes someone like michael cohen or at least that was what they how they viewed it someone like michael cohen more valuable because he's because trump is such a hard person to understand and maybe that's what was going on well they all are pretty red face.
"clark clifford" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio
"Be recognized our guest is stuart eizenstat his new book on president carter the white house years and with regard to iran he writes the following a stronger show of us military might and shutting off iran's oil exports would have led to the hostages release and not their murder i told a komeini heated the president's warning that any harm would be met with the full force of the united states harder had to weigh the possible loss of life against the loss of the country's prestige in the humiliating impasse with iran the book is more than nine hundred pages in length focusing on domestic and foreign policy issues that president carter faced in peter's join us from province town massachusetts good morning good morning doing a great job as usual i just wanna chasse very quickly about pakistan i think that one of the certain outcomes that proved to be so uncertain was how the carter administration's especially from nineteen seventy nine onwards got caught up in the pakistani intelligence operations spoke in pakistan as well as here he'd dci's scandal which led to the devise of clark clifford the fact that so much money was flowing to this backchannel through this bank dcci into us politics in washington it had implications not just for clark clifford but for others was at the same time you know purposefully emotion with elements of saudi intelligence and others in order to you know push an agenda and the agenda became money in the carter administration there are questions about burt wax what was going on in the white house with respect to pakistan and to this day to this day we still have not sorted out exactly what we're going to do how can solve the problem and how we're going to disentangle ourselves from the thank you dear president carter can be blamed for many things would not be an pakistan which occurred after our administration but i do want to come back to your quote steve on iran and i'm very candid and honest about this now president carter cannot be blamed for the shaw's demise anymore than president eisenhower could be blamed for the castro revolution in cuba ninety miles away or obama for mubarak's leaving but we did make many many mistakes are intelligence by the.
"clark clifford" Discussed on KOA 850 AM
"Gentleman i thought you could touch on the balfour agreement and how rothschild on this delegated or the queen delegate israel and how they took over and segregated and also how much money they make them gold by telling the commissions and how well they are and they're well we're coming up on seventy years are we yeah seventy years she talked about the belford exploration and that israel israel was created it was largely nobody really wanted the creation of israel and stalin had there had been several studies english done several studies and said that you know if there was an independent israel there'd be nonstop war internet seeing warfare pretty much in perpetuity it was it was a prediction that was shockingly accurate and nobody but stalin had some invalid implicit belief it was turned out to be fallacious but he thought the jews had a an affinity for for communism and he thought and also the he and he thought he was wrong yeah it was completely wrong and he had a but he thought that they would have a beachhead in the in the middle east and so he really promoted the the this the creation of israel at the un now that the there were only two powers countered in the un russia back then everybody else have been pretty much wiped out yeah yeah and so the united states in russia really dominated the un truman hadn't really had much interest in creating the state of israel but he didn't want stalin to have a beachhead and the but also he needed the jewish vote at home particularly to win new york state you're gonna run against the new york a very popular new york governor tom doing and he was and he and clark clifford told him that dewey wins remember but yeah and clark clifford told truman they said that if you want to win the forty eight election you know any better support the state of israel so for both domestic politics and foreign policy picks he truman the decided he'd support the state of israel and of.
"clark clifford" Discussed on MSNBC Morning Joe
"You have jon meacham so many different arguments that rudy giuliani's making it's very clear that he's making making it up as he goes along this weekend he led out that there were probably other payments to other women from from donald trump something obviously donald trump wouldn't want out he's completely blown up every time line every time line of lies at donald trump is has laid out before it's it's hard to see rudy giuliani where he is today and where he was on september eleventh two thousand one absolutely i mean what giuliani did on the eleventh in the aftermath particularly on that long and tragic afternoon when the president was moving around on air force one giuliani in many ways became the focal point of of the country and he was it was whatever you think about his mayorship throughout that was a great service and something that was virtually churchillian in a way in that terrible our it's kind of been downhill now and it's exceleron i think part was happened and it's tricky to explain to people who have maybe lived here but basically this is the new york city tabloid political culture has just gone south to washington and it's a world of the new york post and twenty one and step lots of steakhouses lots of onion loaves advantage club yeah yeah the grand havana room which is a great place i think the last cigar so it's not too negative here but it's this it's this roy cohn world of just punch and presidents when they're in trouble they usually try to send for a fort and broths right there try to send for stabilising figure lbj since for clark clifford the clinton says ford and broths just on television.
"clark clifford" Discussed on The President's Inbox
"Right quote unquote wake up ernie that is wake up ernest bevin the british foreign secretary okay so my second question is why is he called the marshall plan in not the truman plan after all we usually associate major foreign policy initiatives with the president not where the secretary of state uh the president's a primary political adviser clark clifford um thought that this this idea really had legs it it did sound indeed visionary and he felt that it would eventually captured the public imagination and he's didn't need suggested determined that it be called the term plan and truman to his great credit uh immediately said uh don't even think about it he said anything named after me that goes to congress would immediately turned belly up and die he said not even the quote unquote were hearst republican could vote against anything named after general marshall and we should point out nineteen 48 and we would have a presidential election chuehmin would be declared the loser in the election by the chicago tribune in a very famous during a hate stroman uh so there's politics in fact all this so we have the marshall plan congress gets behind yet tell us a little bit about what the marshall plan actually did on the ground in europe uh well let's talk a little bit about the money first um it was significant thirteen point two billion dollars to put that in perspective in current dot dollars that's a about one hundred thirty five billion uh but to give it real meaning as a percentage of us output in other words what we were producing each year an equivalent marshall plan today would be eight hundred billion dollars eight hundred billion eight hundred billion of this was.
"clark clifford" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM
"A lot of people including me can give you any details about the clark clifford and juvenile miseries clark clifford was the guy that if you remember from your history and you know your history norman when truman was going to recognize israel as a state remember when truman wanted to recognize the state of israel i wasn't alive i'm with you i am familiar with the story go ahead well george marshall who is uh truman secretary of state at the time disagreed with that decision and he walked out of the room and said i would vote against you in november and truman said after marshall left well that was roughly the cub and um car clifford said allow him to resign because it's hard enough to deal with open rebellion among your enemies why deal with it with your friends okay well but but the reason i called waters george your first caller george called talking about the new deal you bet i think you need to build on with harry truman to and a fair deal and the gi bill of rights because oh by the way who was the guy that gave the veterans a shot after world war two you know to go to school or by a home or start a business it was uh oh i don't know harry truman who did that what's your suggesting kurt is a massive publiceducation effort which i heartily agree is necessary to educate people as to where all of this stuff came from people think social security was always here peopling medicare was always here people don't realize that that abortion as a constitutional right was a very hard fought gain people don't understand that simply getting access to contraception was not always that easy people just take stuff for granted and we need to educate everybody as to these gains that we made that are going to be taken away from us if we don't engage and if we don't fight herbert mai i had at the minutes of your hamburg absolutely and if you remember it kirk twenty years before medicare became the law of the land if you remember many harry truman he find it at the truman library in harry truman got medicare card number watch every jew was the first sign of medicare you gotta but harry truman was talking about medicare in the 40s twenty years to.
"clark clifford" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"The economy during a briefing on the question bearing whether or not eat dog aggressively now echo that are broken early singapore good are unlikely that a more conservative platform and what we're looking at rec right here told mazoka by the pboc governor i mean he spoke earlier is there any indication that the central bank may take further steps to liberalize the currency if you look at the data today be fx reserves swelled by eight hundred and fifty million yuan 128 million dollars aid that pacifism seen an increase like that since since 2015 was that timing by the fx markets i'm clark clifford kruger intercom career proper trillion dollar level were what we got controls that are in place in this current ground on on individuals corporate when it comes to shipping money accrued we did it great britain war on the income that you are in her home from egot governor chris coleman creepy article work where he thirty one regret cubicle isolation today where we heard him much more concur with you on her cornered alone parker it doesn't have any prior returns but bond anytime heard and broke again corporate leverage granic corporate hristo highlyleveraged good average in the gut levels about how cold but for here we're who could not income cookbook monetary policy agenda for the record per year bloomberg intelligence gotten that the pboc is going to sit discounted commissions for more tightening bombs were the brink of meridian for buying modern market that's where you can get from the rights being pushed up the there going to be a fundamental shift in the peter the great at least greenberg uncovered in and tell him just looking at the stock market reaction seems to be quite muted pap's even down beads was this some disappointment around she's as speech yesterday he spoke a lot about the environment for example not much about the economy uganda and cut me rahman i think you mentioned the iran 89 time for more than he could the economy modern needed home i've been well lacquer and concrete policy remember grandma gone on as a lack of will momentum dry in butler who would i think the ordinary who are going well in a crowd in a threaten earlier today where the ball market here in china would you taken down busy miller under you aren't well i think it took a lack of.
"clark clifford" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Country on vietnam johnson recruited clark clifford a venerable washington insider and by all accounts a hawk on the war to replace robert mcnamara secretary of defense he came into the pentagon john bone march 1st 1968 this is clark clifford and it's flynn really growth all of the concerns that the might have felt before all began come that a surface went cushioned damon eardley upset in a gulf form of night and be an easy and disturb arab dhanin weight start again the next day and we going through this business the critical point came after several weeks of briefing when differ put the question to the joy of cheese it was describing what we could do with a larger force in south vietnam whether this would win the war i said no of annual what is the military plea for victor in at vietnam there was no me terribly here's this kind of bottomless hit you see we could just be their year after year after year sacrificing ten thousand american boise ear just didn't he hit a lbj new secretary of defense was recognizing what his boss was still determined not to see just two months earlier on a christmas visit to american troops in vietnam lbj had offered eloquent reassurance that their service and sacrifice had a noble purpose he was a speech that winston churchill might well of admired that must've been that you wish a fish caught i ask from you that it might have come and some other place at some other time artists on all the generation but it didn't it came here on its want us now and i pray that you will be strengthened this crushed must ban walk although all of your loved ones and your people and buy your own great steadfast o ge while may god bless you and may god keith each of you looking back it seems to me one great disadvantage lyndon johnson and his ruling this is people to trust since unease mistrust jill resident diligence moon it was the greatest political tragedy my lifetime no president in my knowledge at any time in american history ever worked at the job any harder than he did i don't think any president ever wanted to go down in history as a great president anymore the johnson dead all of this simply underscores my own personal regretted that what happened to him in vietnam.
"clark clifford" Discussed on KQED Radio
"This is where the viet cong raiders roll here they had explosive behr pauper's apparently to destroy the embassy in that purpose they did not succeed in the predawn hours of january three first 1968 north vietnam launched a massive surprise attack on dozens of american and south vietnamese targets militarily the tet offensive was a defeat for the north which suffered enormous casualties but politically it was a vastly different story the ability of north vietnam to mount an attack on this scale made it clear that the white house it either underestimated the strength and resolve of the north or knew the truth but deliberately kept it from the american public either way for president johnson tat was a public relations disaster this was really the lows dismay loved the ira ever remember in the white house this month to february the terrible quality of the war video came owned people it appeared that these guys did more quit that all alerting never going to quit let our crowd was a as caught off guard as ever in an effort to reassure the country on vietnam johnson recruited clark clifford a venerable washington insider and by all accounts a hawk on the war to replace robert mcnamara secretary of defense came into the pentagon john bone moore first 1968 this is clark clifford and its footing really froth all of the concerns that it might have felt before all began that come to the surface and went push into an air in the post up say in a go home night and be an easy and disturbed the new weight start again the next day and meet going through this business the critical point came after several weeks of briefing when clifford but the question to the joint chiefs it was describing what we can do with a larger force in south vietnam whether this would win the war that said i wanna know what is the military clean for victory in suv it loan there was new military plane is this kind of bottomless hit you see we could just be their year after year after year sacrificing ten thousand new york a year just didn't hit a lbj new secretary of defense was recognizing what his boss was still determined not to see just two months earlier on a christmas visit to american troops in vietnam lbj had offered eloquent reassurance that their service and sacrifice had a noble purpose josh you was a speech that winston churchill might well.
"clark clifford" Discussed on KMET 1490-AM
"Got caught giving bad loans in investing in obviously over development in a lot of different areas matter of fact and a lot of us cynical reader in the valley and certainly out in his sperry and some of the other outer areas of the los angeles area suddenly sanford need to riverside you may be familiar with that they over built and and that was a lot having to do with what lincoln savings did back in the day thinking that the you know the expansion was never going to stop much like in two thousand seven but what happened with lincoln savings is that they got overextended and i think something three four hundred banks one under there was a big headline just today of the day before the wells fargo still owes people a bunch of money that they're going to be returning to them som yeah well i is that having to do with the false bank accounts of their opening i believe that's true and i think that is what what happened here in the lincoln savings eight hundred people went to jail eight hundred people not to mention clark clifford who used to be one of the uh uh the key uh people in uh not the nixon administration but i think was the johnson administration clark clifford and then whom river yes in his second in command was married to the original wonderwoman there you go really isn't a very interesting lender ordinary wind wonderwoman kenneth eriksson nobody nobody can okay so eight hundred people at that time lincoln in savings went to jail so in the subprime meltdown a two thousand seven how many people went to jail guess none absolutely zero that would be none nobody's zero so when we get into a situation where turkey bought wells fargo falsifying bank accounts not being able to pay off their debts are or were whatever is happening and then we get into another situation with the insurance on cars not one person is going to jail what they do they pay a fine hey there public company they just sell more stock to pay the fine so in a situation that you're dealing with like that if you are a borrower and you're out there and you're thinking you yourself wow this message i can't trust companies like.
"clark clifford" Discussed on KMET 1490-AM
"Bad loans in investing in obviously over development in a lot of different areas matter of fact in a a lot of us santa clarita in the valley and certainly out in his sperry and some of the other outer areas of the los angeles area certainly sanity to riverside you may be familiar with that they overbuilt and and that was a lot having to do with what lincoln savings did back in the day thinking that the you know the expansion was never going to stop much like in two thousand seven but what happened with lincoln savings is that they got overextended and i think something three four hundred banks one under those a big headline just today the day before the wto's firms still owes people a bunch of money that they're going to be returning to them so yeah well i is that having to do with the false bank accounts of their opening i believe that's true and i think that is what what happened here in the lincoln savings eight hundred people went to jail eight hundred people not to mention clark clifford who used to be one of the uh the key uh people in uh not the nixon administration but i think it was the johnson administration clark clifford and whom wilbur yes in his second in command was married to the original wonderwoman there you go really isn't a very interesting lender here wind wonderwoman kennedy thinks it nobody nobody can okay so eight hundred people at that time lincoln savings went to jail so in the subprime meltdown of two thousand seven how many people went to jail guess none absolutely zero that would be none nobody's zero so when we get into a situation where turkey bought wells fargo falsifying bank accounts not being able to pay off their debts or what ever is happening and then we get into another situation with the insurance on cars not one person who's going to jail what they do they pay a fine hey there are a public company they just sell more stock to pay the fine so in a situation that you've dealing with like that if you are a borrower and you're out there and you're thinking yourself wow this message i can't trust companies like you need.
"clark clifford" Discussed on Slate's The Gist
"Mark fisher rights for the washington post he's a senior editor there he's i fits in the news pages he has covered it over the years from being stationed in germany tear writing about news and politics recently he wrote about jamie gorelick who is the trump or actually jared kushner and ivanka trump's lawyer she was also a leading liberal some say she might have been hillary clinton's attorney general the headline of that article was when a liberal power lawyer represents the trump family things can get ugly hello mark thanks for coming on great to be with you so i really want to talk about this is kind of odd i don't even want to talk about the whole article i wanna talk about a paragraph within the article two paragraph that got some attention but to get there could you just summarize or talk a little bit about the gist of the article sure this article came about because jamie guerrilla is one of the big power players in washington and she is the ladder day clark clifford or edward bennett williams all these sort of classic figures from the washington's history who represented people on both sides of the aisle when you've gotten big trouble you go to one of these power lawyers and it didn't matter that the power lawyer was a democrat new republican if you needed help that's where he wet jamie grow still plays that roche were for women to play that role and she's playing that will these days four jared kushner and his wife ivanka trump in their various troubles and questions investigations and a lot of jamie gorelick friends mostly liberal democrats.